Donald Trump on Megyn Kelly: “There Was Blood Coming Out of Her… Wherever”

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There’s no video online as of this writing, but Donald Trump, the leading GOP candidate for President of the US, actually said this tonight on CNN:

UPDATE at 8/7/15 6:37:55 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s a video clip. Yes, he said it.

UPDATE at 8/7/15 6:41:39 pm by Charles Johnson

A better quality clip:

Youtube Video

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500 comments
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:32:39pm
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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:33:13pm

Thank God that there was a responsible journalist like Don Lemon around at the time.

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:36:44pm

So now CNN is going to try even harder to woo disgruntled FoxNews viewers?

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:37:39pm

Trump is channeling his inner Mr Garrison

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:38:55pm
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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:39:46pm

At this point Jeb Bush should be the one looking at a 3rd party run.

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Jay C  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:42:04pm

re: #6 b.d.

At this point Jeb Bush should be the one looking at a 3rd party run.

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And the weird thing is: he’d probably be likely to win (or at least place a respectable second)…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:43:33pm

RNC medical officer has just seized Reince Priebus’ belt and shoelaces.

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nines09  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:43:52pm

It should be apparent there is no blood going to Donald Trumps brain in any way, shape, or form. I think the word is “devoid”, but I could be wrong. Nah.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:44:17pm

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:44:47pm

Longer version:

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:45:25pm

C’mon Donald!

Pander to the fundies, reference Leviticus 15:19-33.

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elizajane  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:46:50pm

You know, compared to Scott Walker saying that a pregnant woman should die rather than be permitted to abort her fetus, this seems pretty mild.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:47:13pm
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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:48:34pm

Do fainting couches come in republican sizes?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:52:36pm

re: #13 elizajane

You know, compared to Scott Walker saying that a pregnant woman should die rather than be permitted to abort her fetus, this seems pretty mild.

True, but I’m pretty sure we can multitask and be disgusted at different levels.

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 6:55:06pm

Trump just says stuff out loud that GOPer’s have learned to keep quiet inside of their social circles.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:04:03pm

The cynic in me says yes and it will do nothing.

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:07:43pm

And now Bill Maher is arrogantly wishing that he would have run for President too. I’m guessing that there already is a ant-vaxer in the field

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:07:43pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:07:55pm

“Hope and Change meet Pee In Pants”

B. Mahar tonite

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:08:44pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:10:24pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

And it should be repeated as often as possible.

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Unabogie  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:10:41pm

re: #13 elizajane

You know, compared to Scott Walker saying that a pregnant woman should die rather than be permitted to abort her fetus, this seems pretty mild.

Right? In the end, Trump makes news because he’s loud and disgusting, but which man has actually hurt more women this year?

I guess it doesn’t matter, though, because really all of these people would be awful as President. And considering that there’s no Democratic congress to put up a blockade against the worst Teabaggery, I’m scared shitless that “Anyone But Hillary” will cause people to act foolishly.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:10:56pm

I.Can’t.Even. Holy Shit.

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:11:17pm

CNN is in it’s death throes, Trump goes on their TV and says something outrageous so what is CNN’s latest tweet?

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:12:06pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

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I think Trump’s campaign is more like the ending of Scarface

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Tigger2005  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:13:11pm

I have a friend who is an orthodox Christian with two daughters. I cannot imagine him ever saying such ugly and disgusting things about any woman yet he adores Trump. I really hate him right now. It infuriates me that he is so blind. But at the same time it’s not surprising. The mental gymnastics required to maintain an orthodox Christian worldview train you to engage in this kind of doublethink.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:13:18pm

Trump is a natural.

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missliberties  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:15:41pm
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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:17:17pm

I’m feeling a bit rambunctious this evening, and while looking for a RW site to do some “informational trolling” (basically posting facts in the comment sections in the nicest possible way) I accidently clicked the ‘donate’ link at FreeRepugnant. Here’s what I got…

Free(Insecure)Republic
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The War TARDIS  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:18:32pm

re: #28 Tigger2005

Are you meaning orthodox as in Normal, average, and/or mainstream, or as in the fact of Christianity as in the Orthodox Church?

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:18:42pm

Sump Pump Trump will never win over the big wigs over at National Review.

How long before the RWNJ voting base of the GOP calls out National Review as RINO establishment?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:18:45pm

re: #31 RealityBasedSteve

Good reason not to go there.

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b.d.  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:18:52pm

re: #31 RealityBasedSteve

I’m feeling a bit rambunctious this evening, and while looking for a RW site to do some “informational trolling” (basically posting facts in the comment sections in the nicest possible way) I accidently clicked the ‘donate’ link at FreeRepugnant. Here’s what I got…

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Judging by the length of their begathons, thankfully nobody seems to use that link.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:21:51pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Sump Pump Trump will never win over the big wigs over at National Review.

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How long before the RWNJ voting base of the GOP calls out National Review as RINO establishment?

Months ago on Freep.

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The War TARDIS  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:22:26pm

Apparently, there are rumors that Star Wars might be included in Kingdom Hearts.

I really don’t want that. Star Wars is incredibly simplistic in its morality.

Kingdom Hearts started there, but has matured beyond it. It matured beyond that point when Kingdom Hearts 2 came out in 2006.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:24:51pm

re: #37 The War TARDIS

What George Lucas does with his creation is his business. If you do not like it you do not have to watch it.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:27:27pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:27:49pm

Early night tonight—we have our first house raising of the year at 0700.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:29:33pm

re: #39 #FergusonFireside

That might be the answer. He is Totally nuts.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:30:31pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:31:07pm

re: #39 #FergusonFireside

Donald Trump may suffer from psychopathy.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:31:07pm

I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s New York Daily News front page

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:32:41pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

Donald Trump may suffer from psychopathy.

Whatever he suffers from, I’m tired of hearing about him.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:34:09pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

Donald Trump may suffer from psychopathy.

It’s probably significant brain damage from huffing hairspray

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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:36:54pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Early night tonight—we have our first house raising of the year at 0700.

That’s right, you do Habitat for Humanity don’t you? Good on You…

RBS

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:38:24pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

What George Lucas does with his creation is his business. If you do not like it you do not have to watch it.

George sold out to Disney. Disney controls the video franchise he’s talking about. While I agree with your sentiment so far as it goes, he is actually on reasonable ground with this criticism of adding SW characters to the video game.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:41:24pm

re: #48 William Lewis

My apologies. I thought it was a movie not a video game. I am one of those folks who still reads books.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:42:12pm
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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:42:25pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

What George Lucas does with his creation is his business. If you do not like it you do not have to watch it.

The Star Wars universe no longer belongs to Lucas; he sold it and everything under the Lucasfilms aegis to Disney a couple of years ago.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:42:30pm

Meh. Trump was crude and misogynistic but y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies. My point is that Trump is right about Megan Kelly, and a lot of Trump’s fans are going to see his comments as real talk. Kelly is a lightweight, inadequate journalist who is lucky to have men like Don Lemon behind her making her look good (in comparison).

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:44:30pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Meh. Trump was crude and misogynistic but y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies. My point is that Trump is right about Megan Kelly, and a lot of Trump’s fans are going to see his comments as real talk. Kelly is a lightweight, inadequate journalist who is lucky to have men like Don Lemon behind her making her look good (in comparison).

Point completely missed. Well done.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:44:37pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Meh. Trump was crude and misogynistic but y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies. My point is that Trump is right about Megan Kelly, and a lot of Trump’s fans are going to see his comments as real talk. Kelly is a lightweight, inadequate journalist who is lucky to have men like Don Lemon behind her making her look good (in comparison).

Fuckin’ WHAT?!? What the fuck is this shit?

What. The. Fuck?!?
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BlueGrl21  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:47:32pm

The strong have no need to respond to taunts from the weak and insecure.

Donald Trump is not worth my time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:50:31pm

I’m trying to figure out exactly what it is that Trump is right about when it comes to Megan Kelly.

This is more difficult to do when I am unwilling to sit and parse through either Trump or the debate from last night (I like my sanity), so additional context would be helpful, if anyone else has managed to figure it out.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:50:48pm

re: #55 BlueGrl21

The strong have no need to respond to taunts from the weak and insecure.

Donald Trump is not worth my time.

I only regret that I have but one upding to give this.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:51:22pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Meh. Trump was crude and misogynistic but y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies. My point is that Trump is right about Megan Kelly, and a lot of Trump’s fans are going to see his comments as real talk. Kelly is a lightweight, inadequate journalist who is lucky to have men like Don Lemon behind her making her look good (in comparison).

What the fuck.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:52:56pm

Was Scott Walker claiming that the life of the unborn trumps that of the mother? This is standard Catholic teaching and not surprising. Or is he claiming that they must both die, which would be weird.

Judaism, in contrast, holds that the life of the mother trumps that of the unborn, for obvious rational reasons.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:53:24pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Trump was crude and misogynistic but

Another one of those sentences that should not include “but” nor continue. Nothing good comes after the “but”.

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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:53:53pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

I’ll quote myself from downstairs:

I hate The Donald for making me feel even the least bit sorry for Megyn Kelly, a person who’s a complete waste of skin as a journalist, but even she doesn’t deserve this shit.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:54:14pm

re: #56 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m trying to figure out exactly what it is that Trump is right about when it comes to Megan Kelly.

This is more difficult to do when I am unwilling to sit and parse through either Trump or the debate from last night (I like my sanity), so additional context would be helpful, if anyone else has managed to figure it out.

Umm, maybe it’s that Ms. Kelly asked questions that weren’t softballs and that Trump is such a manly man that he was able to make nasty remarks in response. Take that, women!

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:54:22pm

re: #59 John Vreeland

Was Scott Walker claiming that the life of the unborn trumps that of the mother? This is standard Catholic teaching and not surprising. Or is he claiming that they must both die, which would be weird.

Judaism, in contrast, holds that the life of the mother trumps that of the unborn, for obvious rational reasons.

And while it’s great that Judaism sounds rational, neither should be used for the laws of the country.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:54:52pm

I mean, sure, Megan Kelly is not that fantastic a journalist. Most of us here would agree with that.

But most of us here can say that without resorting to misogyny, which Trump seems unable to do. And that’s not “real talk,” and that it passes as such for a large portion of the electorate is fucking terrifying and should be pointed out in blunt terms, which is the point of what Charles is doing.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:54:56pm

re: #56 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m no Kelly fan but she asked really good questions last night, digging into a lot of negative stuff in each candidate (likely to “get it out, addressed and over with”).

Trump has a severe case of Thinskinitis. And this episode really showcased what a gigantic douchebag he is.

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:56:18pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

You should have stopped after 6 words BUT you ended up sounding like an utter and complete dickbag.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 7:59:43pm

Here, I will take phrases from #54 and remove them from context.

y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies

Sounds like something Sump Pump Trump would say.

lucky to have men

Fuck you, dude. Why don’t you just come out and say that women are ineffectual without men. Fuck. You. Douche bag.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:00:08pm

Donald Trump’s rage at Megyn Kelly reminds me of three things:

1. The notable number of males that have gotten banned from this blog because they couldn’t stand the idea of losing an argument to a woman and so went nuts.

2. Upchuck. Has CCJ pledged his undying fealty to The Donald yet? Because Trump’s misogyny is right up that jerk’s alley.

3. “GamerGate”, enough said.

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Sionainn  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:00:35pm

re: #59 John Vreeland

Was Scott Walker claiming that the life of the unborn trumps that of the mother? This is standard Catholic teaching and not surprising. Or is he claiming that they must both die, which would be weird.

Judaism, in contrast, holds that the life of the mother trumps that of the unborn, for obvious rational reasons.

Walker isn’t Catholic.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:00:54pm

re: #65 WhatEVs

I’m no Kelly fan but she asked really good questions last night, digging into a lot of negative stuff in each candidate (likely to “get it out, addressed and over with”).

Trump has a severe case of Thinskinitis. And this episode really showcased what a gigantic douchebag he is.

Trump’s success has me convinced that about a quarter of likely Republican voters really like gigantic douchebags. Simply amplifying his douchbaggery is not going to make them change their mind about him.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:01:16pm

Has anyone else noticed that the day after a GOP debate the LGF lounge is always full of empty booze bottles, cigarette butts, the smell of weed & occasional troll droppings?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:01:46pm

re: #70 John Vreeland

Trump’s success has me convinced that about a quarter of likely Republican voters really like gigantic douchebags. Simply amplifying his douchbaggery is not going to make them change their mind about him.

Very little is going to change their minds about him. They are also unlikely to read this blog.

I think you are misjudging the audience, here.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:01:57pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Donald Trump’s rage at Megyn Kelly reminds me of three things:

1. The notable number of males that have gotten banned from this blog because they couldn’t stand the idea of losing an argument to a woman and so went nuts.

2. Upchuck. Has CCJ pledged his undying fealty to The Donald yet? Because Trump’s misogyny is right up that jerk’s alley.

3. “GamerGate”, enough said.

Be open with us for a second, what does Trump’s overwhelming popularity with the GOP base say about your party?

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Sionainn  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:02:31pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

Here, I will take phrases from #54 and remove them from context.

Sounds like something Sump Pump Trump would say.

Fuck you, dude. Why don’t you just come out and say that women are ineffectual without men. Fuck. You. Douche bag.

Thank you.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:02:40pm

re: #71 b_sharp

Has anyone else noticed that the day after a GOP debate the LGF lounge is always full of empty booze bottles, cigarette butts, the smell of weed & occasional troll droppings?

Would you rather me show up with a head full of acid? I know I wouldn’t want to be caught in such a situation.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:02:45pm

re: #70 John Vreeland

Trump’s success has me convinced that about a quarter of likely Republican voters really like gigantic douchebags. Simply amplifying his douchbaggery is not going to make them change their mind about him.

Probably true. They need a “champion” to stick his thumb in the eye of powerful people for them. They really aren’t looking for decent governance as they don’t understand the concept.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:02:55pm

There is a new Republican Party presidential candidate announcement for 2016

Republican Party presidential candidates, 2016

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:05:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:05:33pm

re: #77 Maxwell Not So Smart

I think that would actually be an improvement.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:05:35pm

Trump’s success has a bit to do with the wingnut worship of money and prophets of profit like him.

If you aren’t rich you aren’t successful & the end justifies any means.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:05:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:06:19pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

Penis shaped, I’m guessing.

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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:07:34pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:08:00pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Would you rather me show up with a head full of acid? I know I wouldn’t want to be caught in such a situation.

It wouldn’t be advisable to watch a GOP debate while on acid. That would be a massive bad trip.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:08:24pm
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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:08:54pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

You bring me to tears sometimes. That cracked me up. You rock!

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BlueGrl21  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:09:14pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Easy litmus test, John.

Imagine someone said this about the woman closest to you in your life. The one you respect every bit as much as you love.

Still all good?

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:09:17pm

re: #59 John Vreeland

Was Scott Walker claiming that the life of the unborn trumps that of the mother? This is standard Catholic teaching and not surprising. Or is he claiming that they must both die, which would be weird.

Judaism, in contrast, holds that the life of the mother trumps that of the unborn, for obvious rational reasons.

Walker is a fundamentalist of some stripe (“Nondenominational Evangelicalism” according to Wiki) and, yes, he’d rather see both die because that would, obviously, be “god’s will” in the situation. He’s the single most evil thing to come from Wisconsin since Senator McCarthy.

Jesus, (pre-Christ), as a Jew, would doubtless agree with the idea that current life outwieghs possible life but they’ve wrapped themselves so deeply around that deeply twisted notion that conception = ensoulment that the can’t see past it.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:09:31pm

re: #85 Jenner7

That nose!

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:09:54pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Be open with us for a second, what does Trump’s overwhelming popularity with the GOP base say about your party?

It says that a lot of people in the base feel the party leadership hasn’t listened to them on immigration and so they’re at the moment supporting someone who is saying what they want to hear.

Trump is also showing why Vince McMahon brought him onboard for Wrestlemania one year: Trump’s the kind of over-the-top figure who can play well on TV, at least for a limited time.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:10:19pm

re: #84 b_sharp

It wouldn’t be advisable to watch a GOP debate while on acid. That would be a massive bad trip.

I thought the entirety of the GOP debates were an acid trip.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:10:59pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

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As though menstruation were something to be ashamed of.
I’m not particularly excited about the mystical interpretations which have made the rounds of feminist circles over the years, but dammit, it does mean women can create new life, as it were. Can Trump do that? I think not.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:11:07pm

re: #91 WhatEVs

I thought the entirety of the GOP debates were an acid trip.

Adding acid to the mix could very well be fatal.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:11:47pm

re: #88 William Lewis

Walker is a fundamentalist of some stripe (“Nondenominational Evangelicalism” according to Wiki) and, yes, he’d rather see both die because that would, obviously, be “god’s will” in the situation. He’s the single most evil thing to come from Wisconsin since Senator McCarthy.

Christ, as a Jew, would doubtless agree with the idea that current life outwieghs possible life but they’ve wrapped themselves so deeply around that deeply twisted notion that conception = ensoulment that the can’t see past it.

I’d argue the most evil thing to come out of Wisconsin was Jeffery Dahmer. Even if a political is being an asshole, unless he’s trying to get people killed he doesn’t rate next to a serial killer.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:12:36pm

re: #88 William Lewis

Walker is a fundamentalist of some stripe (“Nondenominational Evangelicalism” according to Wiki) and, yes, he’d rather see both die because that would, obviously, be “god’s will” in the situation. He’s the single most evil thing to come from Wisconsin since Senator McCarthy.

It’s all God’s will til the dude can’t get a boner. Then all intervention is allowed.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:12:43pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

I’d argue the most evil thing to come out of Wisconsin was Jeffery Dahmer. Even if a political is being an asshole, unless he’s trying to get people killed he doesn’t rate next to a serial killer.

…said about the guy who is perfectly happy to let women die instead of allowing them to get an abortion.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:13:01pm

re: #76 calochortus

re: #76 calochortus

Probably true. They need a “champion” to stick his thumb in the eye of powerful people for them. They really aren’t looking for decent governance as they don’t understand the concept.

Sad but true for both parties. Else I cannot explain Hillary’s courting of the Kardashian vote, which really annoys me more than anything else she has ever done but which will probably please some group of idiots.
Speaking of groups of idiots, did Bernie speak at Liberty U yet?

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:14:12pm

re: #97 John Vreeland

Sad but true for both parties. Else I cannot explain Hillary’s courting of the Kardashian vote, which really annoys me more than anything else she has ever done but which will probably please some group of idiots.
Speaking of groups of idiots, did Bernie speak at Liberty U yet?

Plenty of stupid to go around, I’m afraid.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:14:20pm

re: #97 John Vreeland

Both sides!!

Ugh.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:15:31pm

re: #93 b_sharp

Adding acid to the mix could very well be fatal.

I don’t know if I could have laughed any harder last night. I was in awe of the TrainWreck. Acid would have sent me to the hospital with pulled, no severed, muscles.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:17:07pm

re: #100 WhatEVs

I don’t know if I could have laughed any harder last night. I was in awe of the TrainWreck. Acid would have sent me to the hospital with pulled, no severed, muscles.

I couldn’t watch it, V was watching something far more important on the tube. I just can’t remember what it was.

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:17:20pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

I’d argue that the Senator, with his rampage through American foriegn policy in a search for mostly non-existent Communists, gleefully caused far more deaths both here and abroad than Dahmer could have dreamed of doing. Just commies after all, not like they were “humans” or something. < spit >

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:17:44pm

And I didn’t get a chance to watch last night’s debate, but my overall feeling about it was positive for two reasons:

1. Every analysis I’ve read, left, right, and center, has said Marco Rubio did well and elevated his standing.

2. Despite the noisy applause Trump has gotten on Freep and Twitter, I think his open misogyny is going prove fatal because it will make him unacceptable to Republican women, of which their are a large number. Trump is being hostile in a way that cannot be ignored and won’t be forgiven. Polls next week will show a major gender gap for Trump, and that’s going to hurt him badly.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:18:39pm

re: #97 John Vreeland

Sad but true for both parties. Else I cannot explain Hillary’s courting of the Kardashian vote, which really annoys me more than anything else she has ever done but which will probably please some group of idiots.
Speaking of groups of idiots, did Bernie speak at Liberty U yet?

Last I saw, ths Kardashian’s are (mostly young) voters. Voters who, themselves, have a massive following. I hate the Katdashians, myself (as I’ve said numerous times here in the comments), but Hillary courting them is smart. Savvy even.

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aagcobb  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:19:35pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

I’d argue the most evil thing to come out of Wisconsin was Jeffery Dahmer. Even if a political is being an asshole, unless he’s trying to get people killed he doesn’t rate next to a serial killer.

If Walker becomes President I’m pretty sure he will kill more people than Dahmer did.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:19:44pm

re: #101 b_sharp

I wasn’t going to, but man, it sucked me in. I couldn’t make myself stop.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:20:23pm

re: #106 WhatEVs

I wasn’t going to, but man, it sucked me in. I couldn’t make myself stop.

Car accidents and other horrors are like that.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:20:48pm
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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:21:49pm

re: #106 WhatEVs

I wasn’t going to, but man, it sucked me in. I couldn’t make myself stop.

Drop your cable. Then it will be much harder to watch.

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:22:31pm

re: #105 aagcobb

If Walker becomes President I’m pretty sure he will kill more people than Dahmer did.

And be even more excited and happy about doing so. “God Wills It!”

Deus Vult that is…

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:23:56pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

OH MY FUCKING SHIT GOD IN BURNING HELL HEAVEN COMEDY CENTRAL THIS IS 2015 AND AUTOPLAY VIDEOS ARE AS POPULAR AS TESTICULAR CANCER STOP DOING THAT NOW

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:25:32pm

re: #111 Chan Kobun

Hey man, complain to Comedy Central, not me.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:25:44pm

re: #111 Chan Kobun

Mine didn’t autoplay.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:26:12pm

re: #113 Belafon

Mine didn’t autoplay.

Nor mine.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:27:55pm

re: #114 calochortus

Nor mine.

Nor mine either.

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:28:17pm

Well, time to log out for the evening-I’m going to try a little embroidery with my very own handspun, hand dyed silk thread. I hope it doesn’t fray or fuzz up…

Hasta Mañana Lizards.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:28:36pm

re: #104 WhatEVs

Last I saw, ths Kardashian’s are (mostly young) voters. Voters who, themselves, have a massive following. I hate the Katdashians, myself (as I’ve said numerous times here in the comments), but Hillary courting them is smart. Savvy even.

I have become wary of cynical politicians who court the idiot vote. Sometimes they are slyly courting the idiot vote and other times it turns out they are in fact the idiots. I learned this lesson the hard way with W Bush and am not likely to forget it

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RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:29:25pm

Well, I’m off to bed. All my buddies are in San Diego this weekend diving the kelp beds. On the plus side, I get to help staff a “Demo Day” event for one of my favorite manufacturers on Sunday. I’ll get to trial some of their new gear (including stuff like a rebreather I’ll never own myself). Hopefully be able to negotiate a great price on some gear for myself. Owners said I’m authorized “key-man” pricing, so we’ll see how it goes.

RBS

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:29:27pm

Okay, if it didn’t autoplay for anyone else, why did it play on mine when I’m getting my SVU on?

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:29:43pm

re: #117 John Vreeland

I have become wary of cynical politicians who court the idiot vote. Sometimes they are slyly courting the idiot vote and other times it turns out they are in fact the idiots. I learned this lesson the hard way with W Bush and am not likely to forget it

So you think Hillary is an idiot?

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:31:32pm

re: #70 John Vreeland

Trump’s success has me convinced that about a quarter of likely Republican voters really like gigantic douchebags.

The inchoate political reflexes of that section of wingnut America who are cheering on Trump can’t really be expected to make the sort of sense that long thought out polity requires.

Infantilism takes different forms in our society today (c.f. the internet), but certainly acting like 14 y.o. males (known for their crude behavior about women) appears to be a very popular one.

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gwangung  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:31:37pm

re: #117 John Vreeland

I have become wary of cynical politicians who court the idiot vote. Sometimes they are slyly courting the idiot vote and other times it turns out they are in fact the idiots. I learned this lesson the hard way with W Bush and am not likely to forget it

Hmmm……might think that’s better than outright contempt……..

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:33:46pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

It says that a lot of people in the base feel the party leadership hasn’t listened to them on immigration and so they’re at the moment supporting someone who is saying what they want to hear.

Trump is also showing why Vince McMahon brought him onboard for Wrestlemania one year: Trump’s the kind of over-the-top figure who can play well on TV, at least for a limited time.

What your party’s base wants to hear on immigration is deport all the Mexicans who came here to pick our crops, do our landscaping, clean our homes and cook in all our commercial kitchens, along with all the children they brought with them who grew up here and are culturally American now. Your party is intrinsically exploitative and racist, which is why the only solutions the base wants to hear involve zero tolerance and electric fences.

Your party’s base also hates women, and the kind of ridiculously abusive dick-swagger Trump exudes is chum in the water. It feeds the same dismissive attitude towards the worth of women as human beings with basic rights and equality that fuels your anti-choice movement. It’s part of the same pathology that every single candidate on that stage expressed or condoned by not standing up even for the rights of raped women to control their own reproductive health.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:40:28pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

What your party’s base wants to hear on immigration is deport all the Mexicans who came here to pick our crops, do our landscaping, clean our homes and cook in all our commercial kitchens, along with all the children they brought with them who grew up here and are culturally American now.

Clarification: That’s what they want to hear publicly. The meatsticks at the bottom of the economic ladder want to hear that because DEY TOOK ARE JERBS!!1 and they need someone to blame who isn’t rich and powerful because they’ve been told that blaming the rich is SOSHULIST CLASS WARFARES!!!.

The folks at the top, meanwhile, want to have the claims of “tough on immigration” types to point to to placate the meatsticks - while they help sneak in people to be their servants, paying them nothing and threatening them with La Migra should they dare to ask for basic human treatment.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:41:06pm

re: #117 John Vreeland

That’s fine, but I feel you need could use this advice, John:

Don’t go after a woman when she’s being attacked for being a woman. If you call Megyn Kelly a “lightweight” at the same time Donald Trump is calling her “unprofessional” and retweeting someone who calls her a “bimbo”, it gives the impression that you agree with those haters and are piling on. In such a circumstance, you need to not go after the person being unjustly attacked, even if you do not like them.

That doesn’t mean you have to like or defend Megyn Kelly. Lord knows, I have not forgotten her powder-puff interview with Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar after it was revealed they had covered up their eldest son’s child molesting, nor have I forgiven her for it. But Donald Trump is attacking Kelly for asking questions that were reasonable and entirely with bounds for a presidential debate. Donald Trump is not going after Megyn Kelly for something she did wrong, he’s going after her for doing something right. That makes him an ass and compels honorable people not to join in with him.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:41:49pm

re: #120 WhatEVs

So you think Hillary is an idiot?

Hm. I suppose not. Perhaps it’s just that I hate the Kardashians and all they represent more than I hate the Fox News motto.
I have to say now that the only really inexplicably stupid thing she has done was to delete those emails. At least to my knowledge. But that really irks me.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:42:16pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Why do I even bother…

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:44:50pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Why do I even bother…

Yeah, really. Why do you? Your party is thick with haters. It’s a ridiculous enigma that lizards have to contemplate often: Why is Dark_Falcon defending these assholes?

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:46:07pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Because you’re obsessed with defending the rotten, decaying carcass of the Republican Party?

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:48:09pm

re: #126 John Vreeland

Hm. I suppose not. Perhaps it’s just that I hate the Kardashians and all they represent more than I hate the Fox News motto.
I have to say now that the only really inexplicably stupid thing she has done was to delete those emails. At least to my knowledge. But that really irks me.

I feel ya.

But if an idiot votes, I’d rather they not vote for celebrity asshole Trump. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire vis a vis the Kardashians.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:48:10pm

The way I interpret that is that you are saying you don’t want DF here. I don’t agree with him politically, but I enjoy having him here.

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Sionainn  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:48:23pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Why do I even bother…

You didn’t watch the debate last night. A whole bunch of us here did. We saw exactly what your party thinks about women. You shouldn’t think anything positive about the debate unless you hate women, too. That’s your party, the one you keep defending and will likely vote for in the 2016 election. Why do we even bother with you and your continual supporting of this crap?

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:48:37pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Why do I even bother…

You bother with LGF because the conversations on conservative sites are so unremittingly crude?

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:50:37pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Sorry DF, but I seem to have dropped a post. I n short I said that yes, M Kelly was surprisingly good for a change and I wondered aloud if Roger Ailes had been keeping her integrity chained up someplace. And then I made some reference to her 2012 election coverage but it was too damned long to regurgitate. Sleep beckons.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:50:45pm

re: #131 retired cynic

The way I interpret that is that you are saying you don’t want DF here. I don’t agree with him politically, but I enjoy having him here.

Don’t know who you’re addressing (they call this a subtweet on Twitter). No one is calling for Dark_Falcon’s ouster from LGF. Where are you getting this crap?

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:52:14pm

re: #133 stpaulbear

You bother with LGF because the conversations on conservative sites are so unremittingly crude?

To a degree, but I also hang out here because finding people who share some of my historical interests is very hard and I’ve got several of them here.

I meant that remark to mean why do I keep engaging Frank when he is just unrelentingly hostile.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:52:34pm

re: #129 Kragar

Because you’re obsessed with defending the rotten, decaying carcass of the Republican Party?

I get that change is really hard for some folks. It really is. But it’s harder to ignore the pure hate and contempt the GOP has towards average citizens. It’s so…blatant and In Your Face.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:53:09pm

Hannity is in love with Trump, wonder what he’ll have to say about him attacking his fellow co-worker.

Can’t wait to see the next polling numbers.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:54:15pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

To a degree, but I also hang out here because finding people who share some of my historical interests is very hard and I’ve got several of them here.

I meant that remark to mean why do I keep engaging Frank when he is just unrelentingly hostile.

By all means, do engage with the multiple other people here who took your weaksauce response to task then.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:55:04pm

Dang, we have exactly one conservative left here. If D_F was the only striped salamander left someone would have already linked to a salamander cam.
Just sayin’

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Sionainn  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:55:18pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

To a degree, but I also hang out here because finding people who share some of my historical interests is very hard and I’ve got several of them here.

I meant that remark to mean why do I keep engaging Frank when he is just unrelentingly hostile.

I didn’t find GDF’s post to be hostile toward you. Truthful about the GOP, yes.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:55:21pm
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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:55:38pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Hostile? By stating absolute facts?

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:56:38pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

I figured if I said anything, I’d get ‘crap’ aimed at me. And so I did.

I know you disagree with DF. As I said, so do I. But I like this place because of the differing points of view, the humor, the information. The music, the photos. The fact that I am interacting with people from around the world and finding common ground.

That is what I find good and stimulating about LGF. Sorry if I have offended anyone.

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:56:52pm

re: #142 Jenner7

I hope this turns into another major Trump twitter war. As usual, I’m rooting for injuries.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:57:05pm

re: #142 Jenner7

Christ, when you lose fucking Erick Erickson…!

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:58:34pm

An Erick Son of Erick Rescindation! The first of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypses!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 8:59:29pm

re: #144 retired cynic

Sorry if I have offended anyone.

No one is offended. You said (to no one in particular, I guess?) that [someone] doesn’t “want Dark_Falcon here.” You’re wrong on that score. Absolutely fucking wrong.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:00:01pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

OK. I’m wrong, and I apologize again.

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:00:19pm

re: #147 JadeHelmCurious

An Erick Son of Erick Rescindation Refudiation! The first of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypses!

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:03:26pm

re: #88 William Lewis

Walker is a fundamentalist of some stripe (“Nondenominational Evangelicalism” according to Wiki) and, yes, he’d rather see both die because that would, obviously, be “god’s will” in the situation. He’s the single most evil thing to come from Wisconsin since Senator McCarthy.

Jesus, (pre-Christ), as a Jew, would doubtless agree with the idea that current life outwieghs possible life but they’ve wrapped themselves so deeply around that deeply twisted notion that conception = ensoulment that the can’t see past it.

Nondenominational Evangelicalism = right wing religion to win political office.

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#FergusonFireside  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:05:13pm

re: #89 retired cynic

That nose!

Oh, I figured out what the two sacks at the bridge of his nose come from.

He had rhinoplasty to make his big nose smaller & that’s the skin left over.

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JadeHelmCurious  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:05:53pm
It was a really bad move for Megyn Kelly to attack Donald Trump. People are now going to find out about her extramarrital affair with a fellow Fox News personality. Stupid.

Recent Chuckulization, NSIF.

(Not Sure If Serious)

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:06:14pm

RINO

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:06:59pm

re: #143 WhatEVs

Hostile? By stating absolute facts?

Stating facts can indeed be hostile. And I don’t agree with a number of what he believes are facts. But the reason I avoid direct engagement is that I feel I can’t gain anything by doing so. It seems to me better to just post “weak sauce” and accept some contempt for having done so than to take a stand and get bombarded.

I know that’s a non-heroic, and passive way to handle things, but I find trying to be heroic overrated when I’m trying to relax after a long commute.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:07:27pm
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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:08:19pm

re: #152 #FergusonFireside

Oh, I figured out what the two sacks at the bridge of his nose come from.

He had rhinoplasty to make his big nose smaller & that’s the skin left over.

He fills them with gold.

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:13:07pm
Stating facts can indeed be hostile.

Doctor: I’m afraid that your illness is terminal.
Patient: Doctor! I want another opinion!
Doctor: OK, you’re ugly.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:13:09pm

Sigh. I just wish the media would stipulate that Trump is an oafish boor with no class and no filter—then move on to cover other things besides every fucking word that issues from his piehole.

I’ve been tired of his tirades and idiocy for many, many years, and don’t know if I can stand listening to 24-hour coverage of him for the next year and a half.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:14:03pm

re: #152 #FergusonFireside

I thought maybe he had surgery to open his nasal passageways. It looks weird, anyway!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:14:13pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

And I don’t agree with a number of what he believes are facts.

You didn’t watch the debate. Your position is one based on deliberate ignorance. The immigration position was near universal, with only Jeb arguing for a pathway to legal status (not citizenship), and getting booed for even that tepid level of reform. The no abortion exceptions for rape was either clearly expressed by all or deliberately ignored, Rubio went so far as to lie, pretending he hadn’t voted for a law allowing a rape exception when pressed by Kelly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:15:25pm

Honest assessment of politics and how they interact with one’s personal beliefs is hard work. Introspection can be painful.

It’s much easier to just stick one’s head in the sand and pretend the bad shit doesn’t exist.

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b_sharp  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:15:39pm

re: #160 retired cynic

I thought maybe he had surgery to open his nasal passageways. It looks weird, anyway!

Money bags.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:17:58pm

Here’s the saddest thing about last night’s TV. Megyn Kelly’s show after the debate had more than 3x as many viewers as Jon Stewart’s farewell show.
Sad face :(

I’m going to wear myself out with sighing.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:22:14pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

I didn’t watch the debate live because I was at my parent’s house with my mother while my dad was away for the night. I wanted to see the reply, but I could get home in time to do so because it took over an hour and a half to get the taxi I needed to get home.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:22:45pm

First off, thank god for the fucking Repub war on women. Second, thank god for The Donald for making himself perfectly clear. Third, thank god for the base to absolutely continue their support for this all-too-human trust-fund egomaniac.

Popcorn!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:23:24pm

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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:23:25pm

re: #52 John Vreeland

Meh. Trump was crude and misogynistic but y’all are sounding like a bunch of sissy babies. My point is that Trump is right about Megan Kelly, and a lot of Trump’s fans are going to see his comments as real talk. Kelly is a lightweight, inadequate journalist who is lucky to have men like Don Lemon behind her making her look good (in comparison).

You’re high, right?

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:23:47pm
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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:29:23pm

re: #168 bratwurst

You’re high, right?

He just made a mistake. I explained the mistake to him.

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John Vreeland  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:35:20pm

Mr. Trump, what do you call the one after the trophy wife?

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:36:03pm

re: #169 Chan Kobun

The link doesn’t work for me. I got the joke from a bass player back in 1976,

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:36:23pm

re: #171 John Vreeland

Mr. Trump, what do you call the one after the tropy wife?

“My daughter”

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:36:32pm

Paul Krugman today. If you haven’t read it, you should:

nytimes.com

Calling the majority of the GOP candidates gutless is priceless, but accurate.

His critique of Rubio is particularly on point.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:37:52pm

re: #172 stpaulbear

It’s a sound clip from the game Team Fortress 2: the Medic, a German doktor with a… unique sense of medical ethics, saying the phrase I put in that post. That joke is so old I’m pretty sure it’s collecting Social Security.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:38:46pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:39:03pm

Dark_Falcon is a degenerate fuckin’ Republican who’ll not be persuaded either way. Believe me, we’ve been dealing with his “Rah-Rah-Rah Go Team! Republican” bullshit for years.

He comes here in good faith, though. And until he says something truly despicable like Trump did tonight, I will defend him when others call for his ouster or if anything said about him is mis-characterized.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:40:40pm
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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:41:09pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Dark_Falcon is a degenerate inveterate fuckin’ Republican who’ll not be persuaded either way. Believe me, we’ve been dealing with his “Rah-Rah-Rah Go Team! Republican” bullshit for years.

He comes here in good faith, though. And until he says something truly despicable like Trump did tonight, I will defend him when others call for his ouster or if anything said about him is mis-characterized.

Suggested improvement. It makes your point more accurately and doesn’t insult me.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:42:16pm

re: #174 austin_blue

Good column!

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:46:41pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Dark_Falcon is a degenerate fuckin’ Republican who’ll not be persuaded either way. Believe me, we’ve been dealing with his “Rah-Rah-Rah Go Team! Republican” bullshit for years.

He comes here in good faith, though. And until he says something truly despicable like Trump did tonight, I will defend him when others call for his ouster or if anything said about him is mis-characterized.

DF is often our sounding board. He is a valuable member of this community, even if there are times when I want to wring his neck.

That’s what families are, though, and DF is a member of our family.

Those who believe in purity tests are web-based neo-fascists and do not belong here.

My 2 cents.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:50:28pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:50:54pm

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

Interesting edit. I’m keeping the original up, I meant to insult you.

It’s coming from me, though. I hope no hard feelings are implied.

:)

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:51:32pm

Redstaters are not happy with Erickson.

REALLY, come on !!!.. You’ve just proved his point that the PC thing reaches even into REDSTATE. You actuality ” Dis-Invited ” The top repub contender that has something like what… 38% popularity of all the candidates and double digits from the closet candidate. Your telling that many people that their candidate can’t be seen because of what you consider to be a un-propfessional politician. Thats his appeal. He is not a politician and I would strongly urge you to reconsider so that the folks that are backing Mr Trump can have a voice.. Where’s the ” Big Tent ” Party. Megs is a big girl and she’s in the news business which is brutal. Please re-invite Mr trump so we can have a voice. It has a certain look like you’re trying to take trump down a few notches. We need to have everyone involved and not resort to such childishness. Please , once again Eric, re-invite Mr trump

And

Yes Trump is offensive, but how is that new information? I found Fox News/Megyn Kelly to be offensive. They clearly had a game plan to take down Trump. The “will you support the nominee/not run independent” question was aimed to embarrass Trump. Starting off the first presidential debate with a war on women question was absurd. The only purpose was to hurt Trump. That ridiculous focus group Luntz had after the debate was clearly rigged as anti-Trump. How could anyone change their opinion of Trump as a result of the debate when Trump was just doing what he always does?
That was a fantastic debate that was marred by a network/anchor whose focus was on taking down one particular candidate.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:53:09pm

re: #184 WhatEVs
What fun!

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:54:11pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

Interesting edit. I’m keeping the original up, I meant to insult you.

It’s coming from me, though. I hope no hard feelings are implied.

:)

We’re good.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:55:20pm

re: #180 retired cynic

Good column!

The money quote:

modern Republican politicians can’t be serious — not if they want to win primaries and have any future within the party. Crank economics, crank science, crank foreign policy are all necessary parts of a candidate’s resume.

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Chan Kobun  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:55:29pm

re: #184 WhatEVs

They’re all turning on each other.

This can only end well for the rest of us.

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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:56:00pm

And no, Kelly will never be confused with Mother Teresa. On one hand, it is maddening that Trump is getting more backlash for this than any of the other nasty things he has said. On the other hand, it was nice of him to PROVE Kelly’s point last night that his vituperative misogyny is not, in fact, limited to Rosie O’Donnell…as if that made it ok!

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:56:09pm

re: #185 retired cynic

What fun!

There is some sanity in Trump there, but it’s more 70/30 pro Trump.

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:56:27pm

Okay, you know it’s bad when the former leader of the Swedish conservatives tweets this:

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:57:11pm

re: #188 Chan Kobun

They’re all turning on each other.

This can only end well for the rest of us.

God, I hope so. I’m rooting for a 3rd party run with all my being.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:57:33pm

When I grow up, I want to be able to write like the Wonketeers. From here:

Hillary Clinton Can’t Stop Laughing At Dumbass Republicans

The other point Hillz is making, because she has two points, is that, dicknozzled wombat holes that they are, all these Republicans have a real inconvenient history of talking about how badass Hillary Clinton is, and she decided to remind everybody of that by decorating her Brooklyn headquarters with pictures of Donald Trump and Jeb! Bush and Carly Fiorina and Rick Perry and Marco Rubio, with quotes from each of them saying, “Oh Hillary, you are the best at all human jobs, we are just scabby tick bites on the inner thighs of weasels, why don’t you go ahead and be president now?”

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:57:34pm

re: #184 WhatEVs

They should have known he’s part of the establishment. He was on CNN.

//

This would be funny if what Trump is saying didn’t represent what the Tea Party thinks.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 9:58:10pm

re: #191 Teukka

Okay, you know it’s bad when the former leader of the Swedish conservatives tweets this:

[Embedded content]

Ian Bremmer ain’t scared!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:00:03pm
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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:00:16pm

re: #194 Belafon

They should have known he’s part of the establishment. He was on CNN.

//

This would be funny if what Trump is saying didn’t represent what the Tea Party thinks.

Not just the Tea Party, but a whole lot of GOPers.

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:01:25pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Ian Bremmer ain’t scared!

[Embedded content]

I’m not so sure.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:03:26pm

re: #197 WhatEVs

Not just the Tea Party, but a whole lot of GOPers.

Same thing. Trying to claim that the Teabaggers aren’t the GOP is like the Serbian government claiming they weren’t The Black Hand and The Black Hand wasn’t the Serbian government. Well, I guess come to think of it, that worked for them….

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:03:28pm

How about some music?

MP3 Audio

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:04:09pm

Exclusive leaked photo of GOP headquarters after last night’s debate…

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:04:33pm

Ah, Redstate. HAHAHA!

”Lefty” Kelly is not even a conservative. And Trump is in first place in the GOP primary polling. Political correctness strikes again. Blah!

Cruz/Fiorina in 2016.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:05:47pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Exclusive leaked photo of GOP headquarters after last night’s debate…

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I really, really, REALLY would like to be a fly on Reince’s wall. Seriously. Honestly.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:08:05pm

For all the Jewish lizards.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:09:40pm

re: #202 WhatEVs

Ah, Redstate. HAHAHA!

Do these people really think Megyn Kelly came up with those questions all by her lonesome, on the fly? The questions were about as spontaneous as your typical “reality” show, like, say, unh, what’s that one that used to be on where the giant hairball would yell, “You’re fired!” all the time?
/

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:10:59pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:11:20pm

re: #205 BeachDem

Do these people really think Megyn Kelly came up with those questions all by her lonesome, on the fly? The questions were about as spontaneous as your typical “reality” show, like, say, unh, what’s that one that used to be on where the giant hairball would yell, “You’re fired!” all the time?
/

Every question was vetted up on high by lord Roger Ailes, who also chose who was varsity and JV to begin with. Anybody who doesn’t see that are fools.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:13:38pm

re: #193 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When I grow up, I want to be able to write like the Wonketeers. From here:

Hillary Clinton Can’t Stop Laughing At Dumbass Republicans

dicknozzled wombat holes for the win!

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:17:39pm

re: #205 BeachDem

Do these people really think Megyn Kelly came up with those questions all by her lonesome, on the fly? The questions were about as spontaneous as your typical “reality” show, like, say, unh, what’s that one that used to be on where the giant hairball would yell, “You’re fired!” all the time?
/

Iknorite! That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking since the debate.

And she asked these hot topic things to everyone. Why they’re only upset about Trump is due to his skin-so-thin-it’s-barely-there. Poor widdle candidate.

He’s worse than a 5 year old; crying and throwing a tantrum.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:19:21pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

Every question was vetted up on high by lord Roger Ailes, who also chose who was varsity and JV to begin with. Anybody who doesn’t see that are fools.

Consider the audience. ‘Nuff said.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:23:04pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Exclusive leaked photo of GOP headquarters after last night’s debate…

Embedded Image

So, everyone at GOP headquarters walk around in their underwear looking hot and sweaty?

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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:23:38pm

It’s a shame that a pumpkin headed ignoramus can’t see that so-called political correctness and common decency are LARGELY THE VERY SAME THING.

Edit: maybe it was not nice of me to call Erickson a pumpkin headed ignoramus. This is probably more apt:

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:23:57pm
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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:26:36pm

re: #212 bratwurst

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It’s a shame that a pumpkin headed ignoramus can’t see that so-called political correctness and common decency are LARGELY THE VERY SAME THING.

The irony (and hypocrisy) coming from Erickson is almost (but not quite) stunning. Physician, heal thyself!

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:32:17pm

The Reuters story:

Trump dumped from conservative event in Atlanta over ‘inappropriate’ comments

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was dumped from a prime speaking role to an important gathering of conservative activists on Friday for his criticism of Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly after a combustible debate performance.

Trump was scheduled to deliver the keynote address on Saturday night at a conference in Atlanta organized by Red State, an influential conservative group.

Red State chief Erick Erickson said he had disinvited Trump from the event because of what he described as “demeaning” remarks about Kelly who was one of three moderators during the first major Republican debate on Thursday night in Cleveland.

[…]

Eric, son of Erick, and Donald Trump so deserve each other.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:33:26pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

LOL!

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:33:52pm
Carly Fiorina, the business executive who is the only woman running for the Republican nomination and who spoke to Red State on Friday, applauded Trump’s dumping.

“I stand with @megynkelly,” she tweeted.

The GOP insiders sooo want a female up on that stage.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:35:33pm
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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:35:36pm

More fun from Redstate. This is all from one comment…I just gotta interject…

I don’t think you get it. It doesn’t matter what her questions were like. Let me ask you— if it had been a black, or Jewish, or Catholic host who had asked questions during a debate, and had Donald Trump later answered in a way that made reference to their race, or ethnicity, or faith, would you be okay with that? No, you wouldn’t. At least, I pray you wouldn’t. If you would be, then sir, I respectfully request that conservatism is not your ideology.

But then…!

But I assure you that there is a specific brand of socialism that I think will be right up your alley.

Uh huh. Tell me more.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:36:40pm

Eric son of Erick says:

As much as I do personally like Donald Trump, his comment about Megyn Kelly on CNN is a bridge too far for me.

So apparently all the other stuff Trump has done, like his birther craziness, was not a “bridge too far”??

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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:37:27pm

re: #217 freetoken

The GOP insiders sooo want a female up on that stage.

She was certainly as good or better than anyone in the kiddie table pre-debate, but the over-the-top effusive praise she is getting tells me the powers that be are going to do whatever they can to make sure she is on the CNN debate next month.

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:39:03pm

re: #220 freetoken

Eric son of Erick says:

So apparently all the other stuff Trump has done, like his birther craziness, was not a “bridge too far”??

Actually it’s more like” Thank you for giving us an excuse that won’t lose too many nut jobs!! “

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:44:50pm

re: #217 freetoken

The GOP insiders sooo want a female up on that stage.

That’s a tell-tale sign of very real demographic and attitude changes among the populace. For the last half century women have been able to slowly but surely assert their place in society (which is “WE SHOULD BE FUCKING EVERYWHERE”) and certain men are reacting like The Donald™. The GOP insiders saw this during the last general election (where the War On Women meme originated, also “legitimate rape” and other asinine arguments) and four years later are caught with their dicks exposed.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:46:46pm

re: #221 bratwurst

The institutional GOP are trying really hard to make sure she at least makes it to #10 on the polls, to be included on stage.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:47:13pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

Once we got the right to vote, it was just inevitable!

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:48:39pm

re: #215 freetoken

The Reuters story:

Trump dumped from conservative event in Atlanta over ‘inappropriate’ comments

Eric, son of Erick, and Donald Trump so deserve each other.

But remember, it’s an “important gathering” and RedState is “an influential conservative group.”

Freepers won’t be happy hearing that!

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:48:41pm

Freepers freeping to defend their main man Trump:

To: HiTech RedNeck
Obama was never really vetted. While Fox is doing research on Trump going back 15 years, we really don’t know very much about Obama. He has sealed all his records, produced a computer generated long form BC that was produced because of pressure by Trump, and had his autobio written by a terrorist. The MSM, including Fox (with the exception of Hannity) have failed to investigate Obama’s background.

153 posted on 8/7/2015, 10:33:39 PM by kabar

That tells us everything we need to know about Trump supporters.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:49:09pm
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blueraven  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:51:03pm

re: #220 freetoken

Eric son of Erick says:

So apparently all the other stuff Trump has done, like his birther craziness, was not a “bridge too far”??

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:53:18pm

re: #225 retired cynic

And it took long enough!

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:54:30pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

That’s a tell-tale sign of very real demographic and attitude changes among the populace. For the last half century women have been able to slowly but surely assert their place in society (which is “WE SHOULD BE FUCKING EVERYWHERE”) and certain men are reacting like The DonaldTM. The GOP insiders saw this during the last general election (where the War On Women meme originated, also “legitimate rape” and other asinine arguments) and four years later are caught with their dicks exposed.

Ahem, for historical reference—The Republican Rape Advisory Chart, volumes 1 through 9.
goprapeadvisorychart.com

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:55:30pm

Fuck, I hate when the (usually) crazies sound sane:

What Trump said basically boiled down to a different way of saying Ms. Kelly “must be on the rag”. I find what he said to be very offensive at the least and extremely unpresidential at worst.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:56:11pm

re: #227 freetoken

Freepers freeping to defend their main man Trump:

That tells us everything we need to know about Trump supporters.

And that’s going to really hurt Obama’s chances in 2016. /

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 10:57:10pm

re: #233 BeachDem

And that’s going to really hurt Obama’s chances in 2016. /

But it’s good news for McCain! /

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:04:02pm

This won’t stop the deniers from spouting their stupidity:

New sunspot analysis shows rising global temperatures not linked to solar activity

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:15:55pm

re: #235 freetoken

By year’s end the conservatives will be claiming that environmental regulations cause global climate change.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:20:00pm

Just splurged and bought this for myself because I fucking deserve it.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:30:07pm

Interesting.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:32:16pm

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

Carly knows that Ailes et. al. want her to be on stage.

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:33:56pm

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

RWNJ talking heads on the radio talked about wanting to offer up Carly to take out Trump for the good of the party

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:35:35pm

My own suspicion is that the GOP power brokers really are afraid that Trump will do to them what Perot did, and they are trying to head that off soon.

Which is why Fox started their show with the question about supporting the eventual GOP nominee.

And so it appears, as of this day, that their best bet to attack Trump is to paint him as the war-on-women guy, while they of course are supposedly for women.

People like Kelly and Fiorina are pawns in this game.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:42:12pm

My last update from Redstate; they are eating their own.

Trump is going to splinter the GOP as noone else has. It’s glorious.

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:43:21pm

re: #242 WhatEVs

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Tigger2  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:47:07pm

re: #119 Chan Kobun

Okay, if it didn’t autoplay for anyone else, why did it play on mine when I’m getting my SVU on?

I turned autoplay off in my puter settings.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:50:54pm

re: #241 freetoken

When does anybody ever get to witness the complete destruction of a political party in the United States? I reckon Never! That shit is rare!

I rather enjoy it!

For most of Bush 43’s tenure I rooted for him and read a lot about conservative causes - causes (links, stories) I found readily at LGF in those days - of which I wanted to be a part of because it seemed/felt like the right thing to do…in those days.

Heh. Almost a decade later and fully immersing myself in LGF…

I’m fucked, right?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:55:27pm

Trump’s creepy oblique menstrual blood reference kind of reminds me of something.

I used to have this gross, old, crusty, chain smoking, drinking on the job manager who would often phrase things in awkwardly unique and memorable ways. This one time he wanted (I’m guessing based on context) to tell one of our very young female co-workers “What, you got a wild hair up your ass?” That would have been bad enough, however what actually came out of his mouth was “What, you got hairs growing someplace?”

The girl was horrified but you had to laugh.

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WhatEVs  Aug 7, 2015 • 11:58:17pm

Who knew that the Fox/Freedom Works (et all) created Tea Party would be Fox’s downfall? Almost everyone on the right sees Fox as either beltway media or, seriously, liberal media.

I mean, I’m starting to think Trump is a dem plant. If only dem’s were that smart.

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WhatEVs  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:01:32am

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

When I was little, my dad used to always train me to turn off the lights when I left a room. He’d say “make out with the light” which never phased me until I discovered, as a teen, what making out was.

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Insanity  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:02:43am

You know the Republicans have gone off the deep end when one of their candidates cooks and eats bacon off an assault rifle barrel and it’s only the 7th-craziest thing they did that week.

For 2016, they’ve condensed their party’s litmus test to “foaming at the mouth.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:11:13am

re: #231 BeachDem

I showed my mother that very link a while ago. I can’t find exactly where or when I shared it with her (my mom has Facebook and Twitter and she knows how to use them). I can remember her saying “NO FUCKING SHIT! THAT’S HORRIBLE! WHAT THE FUCK!?”

Mom’s birthday is in a couple of weeks. She’ll be 68 years old.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:15:50am

re: #249 Insanity

Nice name.

I have to ask, are you Insane?

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LastYearsMan  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:47:11am

In the mid-1990s in the WWE (when it was still the WWF), good-guy Bret Hart was having a feud with bad-guy Stone Cold Steve Austin. The problem was, the crowds kept cheering for Stone Cold. So the WWE kept telling Stone Cold to ramp up the badness and outrageousness, to make it very clear he was the heel in this fight. And the cheers just got ever-louder. Eventually, the WWE gave up and turned Austin face, and he became the biggest hero of modern pro wrestling.

I’m somewhat scared Trump is on the same trajectory.

Alternate opinion: Trump never wanted to be the nominee, has gotten scared that he could actually win it, and is now actively trying to kill his own campaign.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:49:40am

Since we had a nice spate of Porto pics here over the past couple of days, I thought I would add a couple:

Cabidela with rice. I already ate the heart and lungs.
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:52:32am

re: #252 LastYearsMan

Alternate opinion: Trump never wanted to be the nominee, has gotten scared that he could actually win it, and is now actively trying to kill his own campaign.

Maybe/Hopefully a lot like Hunter S. Thompson’s political career.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 12:58:42am

re: #252 LastYearsMan

In the mid-1990s in the WWE (when it was still the WWF), good-guy Bret Hart was having a feud with bad-guy Stone Cold Steve Austin. The problem was, the crowds kept cheering for Stone Cold. So the WWE kept telling Stone Cold to ramp up the badness and outrageousness, to make it very clear he was the heel in this fight. And the cheers just got ever-louder. Eventually, the WWE gave up and turned Austin face, and he became the biggest hero of modern pro wrestling.

I’m somewhat scared Trump is on the same trajectory.

Alternate opinion: Trump never wanted to be the nominee, has gotten scared that he could actually win it, and is now actively trying to kill his own campaign.

My feeling is that Trump wants to be President—just for the sheer ego trip. He’s decided that he can get the RWNJ vote—the 27%—by throwing them enough red meat. He also thinks that will keep his name in the headlines, because there’s no such thing as bad publicity. Perhaps the unique feature of his strategy is that he feels there’s a celebrity vote to be had—that there are a large number of people who follow celebrity gossip and will vote for a celebrity because they must be the best, or they wouldn’t be celebrities.

He thinks all this adds up to enough to win. I think he’s wrong, but I can’t prove it. Maybe he’s right. I still say he’d be the least disastrous of any of these candidates if he actually won. The RWNJs who think he’s committed to implementing their fever dreams are being played for suckers. His is strictly a celebrity-driven campaign. Who else on the right would even joke about making Oprah their running mate? Hell, he could appoint Kim Kardashian or Taylor Swift to the Supreme Court. Which would be better than anybody the rest of these nutjobs would appoint.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:02:26am

The first click-bait candidate?

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:28:54am

re: #252 LastYearsMan

Trump’s man was Bobby Lashley:

Image: lashley-trump.jpg

… who was victorious.

So if we keep up the wrestling analogy (and it might be more than just an analogy), Trump is in it to win it.

He just needs to find his political equivalent of Bobby Lashley to take on the mean press who hate him.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:31:23am

re: #257 freetoken

He just needs to find his political equivalent of Bobby Lashley to take on the mean press who hate him.

Imho, what distinguishes Trump from his brethren, is that he isn’t whining about the mean press: I think he enjoys the brawling, and views it basically like pro wrestling.

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:34:42am

re: #258 LastYearsMan

Trump is always going on about how unfair the press is to him and how they manipulate what he says.

That worked in the beginning and will continue to do so with the red meat wingnuts, but to many people it will come of as petty, and more so as he keeps repeating it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:38:39am

“You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her… wherever.”

That is some serious pathology.

If I said something like that, my mother would rise from the grave and shuffle over here to beat my ass.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:45:16am

re: #102 William Lewis

I’d argue that the Senator, with his rampage through American foriegn policy in a search for mostly non-existent Communists, gleefully caused far more deaths both here and abroad than Dahmer could have dreamed of doing. Just commies after all, not like they were “humans” or something. < spit >

At least Dahmer ate what he killed.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:45:30am
Trump’s campaign said in a statement that Erickson’s decision was “another example of weakness through being politically correct. For all the people who were looking forward to Mr. Trump coming, we will miss you. Blame Erick Erickson, your weak and pathetic leader. We’ll now be doing another campaign stop at another location.”
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:47:11am

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

Checking over at the FR fever swamp, Trump seems to be quite popular - not with all of them, mind you, but Freepers seem to like him, which comes as a bit of a surprise, as I’d reckoned they were in the tank for Cruz.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:47:32am

re: #252 LastYearsMan

snip…..

Alternate opinion: Trump never wanted to be the nominee, has gotten scared that he could actually win it, and is now actively trying to kill his own campaign.

“What the fuck do I have to say to get thrown off this lame show?”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:50:16am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

Checking over at the FR fever swamp, Trump seems to be quite popular - not with all of them, mind you, but Freepers seem to like him, which comes as a bit of a surprise, as I’d reckoned they were in the tank for Cruz.

They definitely were, and the Cruzeros are still there trying to weather the storm.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:51:41am

re: #264 Decatur Deb

“What the fuck do I have to say to get thrown off this lame show?”

lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muhammadur rasūlu-llāh?

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:52:25am

One thing I didn’t do in this first debate is give my fashion commentary. I guess I was so swept up in the stupidity of what was being said that I skipped my usual critique of their haberdashery.

What I can say about Trump is that the clothes he wears usually look expensive. Most of the GOP crowd are poor dressers. Some in the past have intentionally worn what what I consider to be costumes on the usual daily campaigning - Mitt would often dress to look like he shopped at Sears, for example, in an attempt to make it appear as if he was an every-day kind of guy.

Christie’s weight makes it a challenge to look good in the modern Western form of dress, but as we saw in the debate he can dress sharply. On the other hand, Huckabee and Paul often look out of place in the clothes they choose. Jindal and Kasich often come off to me as being very boring dressers, like they really don’t care about what they wear. Jeb! like his brother and father certainly is accustomed to the best but he too seems like he is dressing to fit in, not stand out. Carson is too conservative to wear the cloth that would work best for his skin color. Walker is forgettable, but strikes more like Mitt than anything else (i.e., wearing simple clothes intentionally as a costume.)

But all this goes with the rest of the package. I find the whole lot a bit banal. Not very artistic, not very original. Not my kind of people.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:52:58am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, mu��mmadur rasūlu-llāh?

He could convert. Think of the alimony he could have saved.

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:55:37am

I wonder if we’ll get the “What book(s) do you read?”, or “What music is on your iPod mobile phone?” type of questions.

I doubt any of them will say Puccini:

MP3 Audio

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 1:58:11am

re: #268 Decatur Deb

He could convert. Think of the alimony he could have saved.

Well, in the Qur’an, a man is responsible for ensuring his ex-wife’s well-being, even after their divorce, so it would still be something analogous to alimony.

And for divorced women is maintenance according to what is acceptable - a duty upon the righteous. [Qur’an 2:241]

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:03:10am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

Well, in the Qur’an, a man is responsible for ensuring his ex-wife’s well-being, even after their divorce, so it would still be something analogous to alimony.

And for divorced women is maintenance according to what is acceptable - a duty upon the righteous. [Qur’an 2:241]

He wouldn’t get divorced, just move them in together. Think of the reality show!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:05:22am

re: #271 Decatur Deb

He wouldn’t get divorced, just move them in together. Think of the reality show!

LOLOL. I wonder if maybe Trump’s not angling to make a presidency the “ultimate reality show”? Imagine him being followed around with cameras in the White House…..four years guaranteed if he wins!

*headdesk*

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:07:29am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL. I wonder if maybe Trump’s not angling to make a presidency the “ultimate reality show”? Imagine him being followed around with cameras in the White House…..four years guaranteed if he wins!

*headdesk*

It’s already wired for sound. Thanks, RN.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:10:11am

Must stir—be off and on until dawn.

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freetoken  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:18:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:25:44am

A passing of note; Dr. Frances Oldham Kelsey has passed away the ripe old age of 101. She’s responsible for preventing hundreds - perhaps thousands - of birth defects among American children for her flat-out refusal to grant FDA approval for Kevadon…..a drug better remembered to most of us as Thalidomide.

bbc.com

en.wikipedia.org

RIP - and kudos for her distinguished career. Populists love to prattle on about “bureaucrats” and how unnecessary they, and regulations in general, are.

Dr. Kelsey argues otherwise.

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KiTA  Aug 8, 2015 • 3:12:10am

So Trump is basically done, right? He’s completely self destructed, or is he just trending up with the wingnut base?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 3:20:17am

re: #277 KiTA

So Trump is basically done, right? He’s completely self destructed, or is he just trending up with the wingnut base?

Well, checking over at FR, they do love them some Trump. And regarding Erick Son Of Erick, they’re furious at him for disinviting Trump to his little shindig, regarding the RedState boss as a RINO or more generally, an irrelevant pissant.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 3:29:58am

Got the Mobic and SPF50 going. Then a fast dogwalk and off to the Habitat site. Gonna make hammers sing at first light, because the sun will drive us off the pad by noon. BBL

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nkdee  Aug 8, 2015 • 3:33:57am

re: #97 John Vreeland

The K family attended a fundraiser for Hillary. They went…she was there too. Courting them? Not so much. Not a “both sides do it” so much as a $2700 donation to meet the candidate. Can I afford something like that? No. But does that mean she should raise money from those who can? Nope.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:07:10am

Wow……just caught this, a major child sex-abuse scandal coming out of Pakistan, and it seems there’s allegations of big-time corruption thrown in as well.

Horrifying.

Videos of these assaults were filmed and thousands of copies are believed to have been sold for Rs50 each in Hussain Khanwala village in Kasur district. One of the victims said he was injected in the spine with a drug before he was assaulted.

The scale of the scandal emerged earlier this week after the victims’ parents clashed with police during a protest against their failure to prosecute the men who orchestrated the scandal. Two dozen people were injured when police used force to disperse more than 4,000 protesters on the Dipalpur Road near Dolaywala village in Kasur district on Tuesday who were calling for justice for the victims. They have claimed that local police have tried to cover up the scandal and that the perpetrators have used their influence to avoid being charged.

…………..

Police sources said the main suspect had been released after a Rs5 million[*] bribe was paid on his behalf and victims families said they had been subjected to pressure by a local political figure to withdraw the allegations.

* = about $50,000 at the current rate of exchange.

nation.com.pk

Damn…….sick, sad world.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:29:15am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

OMG, that’s disgusting.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:30:43am

re: #282 CuriousLurker

OMG, that’s disgusting.

Yeah. Utterly appalling. And the corruption allegations make it all the worse.

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:33:53am

re: #277 KiTA

I’d have to say “Yes” to both…the wheels are coming off, but he’s locking in the 27%ers. 27% is still smaller than 50% though

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:34:51am
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CuriousLurker  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:36:07am

Trump is noting but a huge, odious troll—Upchuck on steroids. Seriously, they both exhibit the same sort of malignant narcissism & desire for attention, no matter how negative.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:52:41am

re: #1 teleskiguy

Trump says about @MegynKelly, “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes…or blood was coming from somewhere else.” WOW.

Oh cmon Trump is just not being politically correct and he’s just being so regular guy how can you not like that authentic?

////

Seriously, I’m a bit confused today at the infighting going on between the RedStates and the Dead Breitbarts. #DemsInDisarray

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:54:04am

re: #285 Jayleia

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Erick son of Erick believes in “common decency”?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:55:50am

re: #285 Jayleia

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I hope Erick son of Erick carefully outlines the distinctions between “political correctness” and “common decency” for us all soon, so we all know what to say and believe in order to be, um, conservatively correct. Or something.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:57:17am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Well, checking over at FR, they do love them some Trump. And regarding Erick Son Of Erick, they’re furious at him for disinviting Trump to his little shindig, regarding the RedState boss as a RINO or more generally, an irrelevant pissant.

Wish I’d heard of this before going to the super market where I neglected to pick up extra popcorn.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Aug 8, 2015 • 4:57:56am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Well, checking over at FR, they do love them some Trump. And regarding Erick Son Of Erick, they’re furious at him for disinviting Trump to his little shindig, regarding the RedState boss as a RINO or more generally, an irrelevant pissant.

Is the RedState vs FreeRepublic cage match on PPV?

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:01:46am

re: #291 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is the RedState vs FreeRepublic cage match on PPV?

Hope you don’t mind, I stole that and threw it at douchebag.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:01:56am

re: #291 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is the RedState vs FreeRepublic cage match on PPV?

Free Republic and Red State are two different things? Who knew?

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:02:57am
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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:36:30am

I don’t get why the unwashed masses watches that Trump show. Taking glee or happiness in others perceived shortcomings (he deserved to get fired,etc.) is exactly how corporate America shows it’s contempt for workers. Also, I hated that fucking Boss show where they give out “goodies”. Wow your underpaid worker is struggling, so go on TV and throw them a pittance to show what a “nice” guy you are. Lick those boots lackeys. I say fuck right off.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:41:01am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

I don’t get why the unwashed masses watches that Trump show. Taking glee or happiness in others perceived shortcomings (he deserved to get fired,etc.) is exactly how corporate America shows it’s contempt for workers. Also, I hated that fucking Boss show where they give out “goodies”. Wow your underpaid worker is struggling, so go on TV and throw them a pittance to show what a “nice” guy you are. Lick those boots lackeys. I say fuck right off.

I don’t get those ridiculously competitive reality shows either, and though I’m not formally educated in psychology, something feels very risky about fostering such a competitive atmosphere in society.

But then again, I’m a bit old-skool, I feel that there is such a thing as excessive individualism. Yes, we are individuals, but we do have responsibilities to our community, society and world too, responsibilities which are hardwired into our brains, as we humans are, despite the best of denials, a flock animal.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:42:58am

The comments at RedState are as bad or worse than anything Trump said. In fact, other than who said it, Trump’s comments would be indistinguishable from the commenters there - or from Erickson himself, who’s had no problem engaging in all manner of racist, xenophobic, and misogynistic comments.

Oh, and watch Trump’s polling rise from this too - because Trump. He’s the perfect encapsulation of the GOP right now, right down to the imagery and misogyny.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:42:59am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

It is what is on the tube. Most of the folks who watch Trump the Sump Pump have cable and this is what is popular so that is what they watch. Whereas someone like me rather watch PBS for a show like Downton Abbey or Poldark.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:46:19am

re: #290 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Pass the popcorn
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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:48:25am

If it was Candy Crowley all these butthurt conservatives would be hailing Trump. Fuck you conservatives and your bullshit indignation.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:50:29am

Yeah. Sure.

Need more popcorn, and it’s early in the morning here in the NYC metro area.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:52:39am

re: #296 Teukka

I don’t get those ridiculously competitive reality shows either, and though I’m not formally educated in psychology, something feels very risky about fostering such a competitive atmosphere in society.

But then again, I’m a bit old-skool, I feel that there is such a thing as excessive individualism. Yes, we are individuals, but we do have responsibilities to our community, society and world too, responsibilities which are hardwired into our brains, as we humans are, despite the best of denials, a flock animal.

Right-wingers like “reality” shows because they’re the most obvious success of union busting. Begun with shows like Survivor during a writer’s strike, they demonstrate that such things as “talent” and “skill” are irrelevant, and don’t need to be highly compensated.

Of course, “reality” shows are just as staged as regular shows (and pro wrestling), but that’s not writing—just have some low-paid or unpaid intern jot down some sequence of events, start the cameras rolling, and Bob’s your uncle.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:56:19am

re: #301 lawhawk

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Yeah. Sure.

Need more popcorn, and it’s early in the morning here in the NYC metro area.

That’s as close to an apology that Trump is capable of, now he will blast people who don’t accept this lame dodge.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 5:58:56am

re: #303 b.d.

And hours later, he came up with (Nose). Even with that, Erickson disinvited Trump. Ha.

The GOP can’t win the WH without Trump voters. They can’t win without RedState voters. And a Venn diagram shows significant overlap between the two. And both are contained within a larger Venn diagram of racists and xenophobes.

That’s who the GOP needs in order to win the WH.

That’s why Trump is where he is in the polls.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:02:42am

LMAO. Those are among the most inoffensive of the comments made at RedState.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:03:24am

For this to tear the party apart, though, Trump has to stay near the top, and he will have to stay interested.

Also, this will only affect the presidency. How do we make this cost at the lower levels?

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:04:00am

Trump should rent out a ballroom down the hall from Erick’s suckfest today and he’ll draw a bigger crowd

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:12:04am

Morning lizards.

This paragraph from a NY Times review of the GOP debate caught my eye (emphasis mine):

“I don’t think you heard me,” [Trump] scowled at Senator Rand Paul, when the lawmaker — who uses hearing aids — sought to interrupt him, then added condescendingly, “You’re having a hard time tonight.”

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:13:31am

re: #306 Belafon

Exactly. The RWNJ practically run the whole country now. Control most states, Congress, most of the capital. We have Obama, for now.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:15:34am
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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:19:09am

I’d bet that the HRC campaign can’t believe their good fortune since the wingnuts have now drawn a line in the sand on misogyny.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:20:44am
“As Alabama’s Governor takes drastic moves to completely de-fund Planned Parenthood and Republican Presidential candidates - including Jeb Bush- promise to slash monies supporting the healthcare organization for millions of poor American women nationwide - it’s important to remember that it was the Republicans — and Jeb Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, who created the Birth Control Federation of America (old name for Planned Parenthood) in the 1st place and that his son, George and daughter in law, Barbara, continued their support even after he was elected a Texas Congressman. Betty Ford was a huge supporter as First Lady. Tax dollars don’t support abortions - they support HEALTHCARE - the same healthcare today’s Republicans support for women in Africa and other 3rd world nations for God’s sakes. This matters - American Women Matter.”

from my facebook

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:21:49am

This new found “outrage” over Trump’s comments is amusing considering Rush and the GOP base have been just as vile for decades.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:22:45am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:24:47am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:29:21am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:29:48am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:31:59am

re: #316 lawhawk

Trump basically sounds like the wingnut losers that troll yahoo comments’ sections all day. They/he are in constant victimhood mode and believe everything they oppose is “political correctness”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:34:53am

Celebrity gossip now includes Presidental Candidates and TV “Journalists”?

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:45:01am

Where was Erick when Donald was attacking Rosie?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:46:57am
WHAT???
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:48:39am
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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:49:25am

Ahem:

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:50:05am

Raw Story has a nice compilation of Erick Erickson’s greatest hits.

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:50:14am

Off to photograph an ordination ceremony for a new deacon in our parish today. Have good day all.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:50:22am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:53:18am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 8, 2015 • 6:59:14am

re: #70 John Vreeland

Worship of the Asshole is a known American cultural feature. The hero who tells it like it is, guns down his enemies, and doesn’t care who doesn’t like it!

Never mind that in real life such a person is basically a giant asshole… We freaking love these guys. See: Every action movie hero ever. I think it’s rooted way way back in European culture. The nonconformist who steps out of line to put boots to butts is celebrated almost as a reflex. Politicians who can tap into this magic gain an immediate 30% market share without even trying.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:10:55am

“Blame Erick Erickson, your weak and pathetic leader.”

If this wasn’t a real contest for power over people’s lives, it would be hilarious. Trump sounds like Morbo from Futurama.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:11:13am

re: #239 freetoken

Carly knows that Ailes et. al. want her to be on stage.

He wants her on that stage. He NEEDS her on that stage.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:15:46am

re: #293 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Free Republic and Red State are two different things? Who knew?

Here’s the key differences:

1. Free Republic is a site with admins but no defined leader, so in general it goes where its members want. By sharp point of contrast, Red State is Erik Ericsson’s creature and he guides the site in the direction he wants it to go.

2. Of equal importance is the fact that Ericsson wants a Republican to be elected president in 2016, and he is convinced that Donald Trump cannot the election. The freepers are not very interested in strategy, they just want spew troll bile at “liberalism”.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:25:28am

#snerk

Why did Pamela Geller get her name definition removed from urban dictionary?

I thought she was all for freedom of speech. Looks like her name doesn’t come in urban dictionary’s search suggestions either. The definition was funny. Too bad, its no more there :(

Update: for those who are asking what it said: Female version of Bin Laden who keeps terrorizing America. […]

answers.yahoo.com

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:30:25am

Damn…who says there’s no news on a Friday/Saturday? Great presidential press release here:

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:32:44am

How do you do the update tagging in pages? I haven’t done those in a while, and that Trump statement definitely deserves an update in the page I just did about this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:33:25am

re: #333 darthstar

Smells like victory.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:33:44am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:34:35am

re: #334 lawhawk

I am sorry I do not know how to do this. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:35:00am

re: #334 lawhawk

How do you do the update tagging in pages? I haven’t done those in a while, and that Trump statement definitely deserves an update in the page I just did about this.

UPDATE:
hit enter
then add your update

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:35:41am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, that’s a true statement.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:35:44am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks. Now I know how to do it. :)

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:39:22am

re: #335 Dr Lizardo

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:40:02am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

So not John McCain then?

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:41:30am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Well, that’s a true statement.

You gotta be feeling good after Walker dominated in the debate the other night.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:43:57am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:44:33am
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b.d.  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:45:20am

lol, parody account but still:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:47:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:48:21am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:49:55am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:51:32am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are a whole lot of deviants out there…hell, I even thought it might be a menstrual reference.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:53:16am

re: #350 darthstar

There are a whole lot of deviants out there…hell, I even thought it might be a menstrual reference.

But we’re politically correct deviants…

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:53:20am

re: #343 darthstar

You gotta be feeling good after Walker dominated in the debate the other night.

Ha! Nice try but Walker’s my dad’s guy. My favorite is Rubio and he did quite well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:55:04am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Ha! Nice try but Walker’s my dad’s guy. My favorite is Rubio and he did quite well.

No, Rubio didn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:58:53am
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No Country For Old Haters  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:58:59am

re: #212 bratwurst

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2015 • 7:59:38am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

I’m curious how anyone would define doing well based on outcome of first debate?

Is going from 1 to 2 percent good? If you’re looking at polls with a MOE of 3.5 to 4 points, it’s still possible that the person has no support. If Fiorina goes from 1 to 3 points, is that the big winner?

Rubio’s trend has been generally down, but has firmed up at 5 points. Walker is likewise at about 10 points, but he’s bounced around a lot more than others, which suggests transitory support.

If Rubio or Walker stem their eroding support, is that a win?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:00:49am
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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:02:56am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL. I wonder if maybe Trump’s not angling to make a presidency the “ultimate reality show”? Imagine him being followed around with cameras in the White House…..four years guaranteed if he wins!

*headdesk*

I think that’s EXACTLY what’s going on. Trump’s world is reality TV. He’s been in his own spotlight so long that he thinks that’s what life is like, and it’s all always about him.

I’ve been comparing this to Jesse Ventura’s run for governor. Jesse had been the mayor of a northern Minneapolis suburb so he knew a bit about government, and he decided he wanted to make some points when the R’s and D’s ran the most boring insider candidates for governor.

He never for a moment felt that he’d wake up as governor, and I’m sure he was all ‘Oh, FUCK’ when it happened. He managed to keep his ego in check and try to do a good job for the first two years (he realized the job was bigger than him), but then he got bored and pissed off so his second two years were a mess.

A Trump presidency will be like Jesse’s second half on steroids. He’ll be trying to fire people he can’t fire starting on day one, and he’ll melt down when he’s told that he can’t do it. It won’t be entertaining.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:03:13am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

Ha! Nice try but Walker’s my dad’s guy. My favorite is Rubio and he did quite well.

I know the media are spinning Rubio as a stand out. We’ll see if the polls agree with that. His support of misogynist anti abortion language didn’t make him sine, exactly.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:03:38am

snie=shine

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:06:29am

re: #321 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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If you’re christian you shouldn’t get a vote because your primary allegiance is vowed to something other than the U.S. constitution. Is she thinking something like that?

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:07:19am

Serious keyboard lag here. Rebooting.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:08:38am

Oy Vey. Huckabee wants Trump the Sump Pump to apologize. ::: eye roll :::

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:11:01am

re: #356 lawhawk

If you stop your support from eroding and get a percentage point or two back, then that’s a win this time. It’s a long time till the primaries get started, after all and there are many Republican debates before then.

CNN must be delighted over that last since both parties will have their next debate on that network. And with at least 3 and likely four primary debates in total, CNN will host more debates than any other network. So they are even better positioned than Fox News to cash in.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:12:00am

re: #250 teleskiguy

I showed my mother that very link a while ago. I can’t find exactly where or when I shared it with her (my mom has Facebook and Twitter and she knows how to use them). I can remember her saying “NO FUCKING SHIT! THAT’S HORRIBLE! WHAT THE FUCK!?”

Mom’s birthday is in a couple of weeks. She’ll be 68 years old.

Yay your mom! She and I are the same age, and we’ve been putting up with that crap for decades.

And it’s not just the GOP bullshit about rape. They’re awful about women on so many levels. Remember, just two years ago—

Of course, they claimed how much they supported women, because they all voted for their own bullshit version—but voted against the final bill.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:19:17am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

I don’t get why the unwashed masses watches that Trump show. Taking glee or happiness in others perceived shortcomings (he deserved to get fired,etc.) is exactly how corporate America shows it’s contempt for workers. Also, I hated that fucking Boss show where they give out “goodies”. Wow your underpaid worker is struggling, so go on TV and throw them a pittance to show what a “nice” guy you are. Lick those boots lackeys. I say fuck right off.

Remember that these are the unwashed masses who cheer when Scott Walker attacks the Teachers’ union, who post and repost the picture of a machine to replace workers at MacDonalds, who want to cut SNAP because the working poor should get better jobs.

They don’t see themselves as the poor schlubs having to lick boots to gain any favors. They identify with the guy having his boots licked - even though the vast majority of them are workers, not managers. That’s some crazy pathology at work to sympathize with your oppressor, rather than your fellow oppressed.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:20:57am

re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember that these are the unwashed masses who cheer when Scott Walker attacks the Teachers’ union, who post and repost the picture of a machine to replace workers at MacDonalds, who want to cut SNAP because the working poor should get better jobs.

They don’t see themselves as the poor schlubs having to lick boots to gain any favors. They identify with the guy having his boots licked - even though the vast majority of them are workers, not managers. That’s some crazy pathology at work to sympathize with your oppressor, rather than your fellow oppressed.

Stockholm Syndrome writ large.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:27:06am

re: #366 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember that these are the unwashed masses who cheer when Scott Walker attacks the Teachers’ union, who post and repost the picture of a machine to replace workers at MacDonalds, who want to cut SNAP because the working poor should get better jobs.

They don’t see themselves as the poor schlubs having to lick boots to gain any favors. They identify with the guy having his boots licked - even though the vast majority of them are workers, not managers. That’s some crazy pathology at work to sympathize with your oppressor, rather than your fellow oppressed.

But a skilled tradesman or office professional is quite unlikely to use SNAP and being of higher status than the fast worker looks down on the latter.

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WhatEVs  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:27:42am

re: #119 Chan Kobun

Okay, if it didn’t autoplay for anyone else, why did it play on mine when I’m getting my SVU on?

I got up, TV’s on, hubby is talking and the Daily Show starts screaming on page load.

I feel ya, bruddah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:30:19am

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

But a skilled tradesman or office professional is quite unlikely to use SNAP and being of higher status than the fast worker looks down on the latter.

Then those people are sanctimonious asshats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:32:45am

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

But a skilled tradesman or office professional is quite unlikely to use SNAP and being of higher status than the fast worker looks down on the latter.

If the last decade has shown anything, it’s that the “skilled tradesman or office professional” is at least as expendable as the fast food worker, in the eyes of his ‘betters’. Yet that very vulnerability has led them to attack those at their own level and below.

It’s as if, at the time of the French Revolution, the peasants all turned on each other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:33:39am

jeebus, soooo presidential…

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:35:06am
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:35:26am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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More reporters are talking about Trump making a period joke than the fact that several candidates would force a woman to die in pregnancy.

That’s today’s “journalism” in a nutshell, isn’t it? Spit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:36:00am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then those people are sanctimonious asshats.

It’s really remarkable. The other day on FB, someone was saying “I’m a welder, and I don’t get $15 an hour. Why should burger flippers get that much?”, rather than “Why do I only get $15, and not more?”

I guess as long as you have someone you can shit on, you can ignore the fact that you’re being shat on.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:37:04am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump the Sump Pump is an attack dog with a few bucks. Completely uncouth.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:37:18am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:37:48am

re: #373 darthstar

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Or the death of the mother. My personal opinion is that anyone who would deny an abortion if continued pregnancy would kill the woman should die in a fire, and I mean that literally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:37:54am

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s really remarkable. The other day on FB, someone was saying “I’m a welder, and I don’t get $15 an hour. Why should burger flippers get that much?”, rather than “Why do I only get $15, and not more?”

I guess as long as you have someone you can shit on, you can ignore the fact that you’re being shat on.

I posted this a few days ago:

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:38:24am

re: #374 BeachDem

More reporters are talking about Trump making a period joke than the fact that several candidates would force a woman to die in pregnancy.

That’s today’s “journalism” in a nutshell, isn’t it? Spit.

If only Trump would say those exact words. But he’s pro-life right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:40:18am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

I posted this a few days ago:

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I saw that. I loved it. I’m curious, though, how many folks called him Communist or a loser for not shitting on fast food workers.

ETA: But not curious enough to wade into the fever swamps.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:40:51am

All hell’s gonna break loose now, and more innocnet people on both sides will die. And if the mom or the other boy dies…

West Bank arson: Dead Palestinian child’s father dies of wounds

A Palestinian man whose child was killed in an arson attack blamed on Jewish settlers has died of his injuries.

Saad Dawabsha, 32, died in an Israeli hospital where he was being treated for second-degree burns to most of his body.

His son Ali, 18 months, died in the attack in the village of Duma in the occupied West Bank on 31 July. […]

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’un.
إِنَّا للهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ

When will the Israelis & Palenstinians tire of killing each other? *SIGH*

I think I’m gonna stay away from the news today.

Later, lizards.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:41:45am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:42:24am

In Japanese anime, the bloody nose make appearances when the (predominately male) is sexually aroused when seeing the object of his arousement. In all of my anime viewing, I have never seen this applied to females having bloody noses in anime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:43:37am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:48:34am

Sportsball thing…this is some serious ownage.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:49:28am

Because everyone knows the best way to take out a running back in the backfield is to hit him with the center.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:54:55am

Dark_Falcon if you are still lingering…I saw your comment about CNN having more of the debates and being able to “cash in.”

Do you (or anyone else) think that part of the problem with debates are they become commercialized? And like anything, if money is involved, then also comes manipulation to make as much money as possible which might not be fair to a real debate process.

I got a little feel of that the other night. And now that it is said to be the highest rated event in FOX News history, will everyone now be more concerned how they can amp up those ratings and not care so much about the actual debate.

CNN could well hope to feed a fight like TRUMP vs THE GOP and turn this into a fine mud-wrestling contest…and screw the debate. Fling zee mud!

And non-debate debates become a thing and no one hears an actual debate with policy discussion and our politics goes into a deeper garbage pit.

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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:58:12am

re: #382 CuriousLurker

All hell’s gonna break loose now, and more innocnet people on both sides will die. And if the mom or the other boy dies…

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’un.
إِنَّا للهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ

When will the Israelis & Palenstinians tire of killing each other? *SIGH*

I think I’m gonna stay away from the news today.

Later, lizards.

Did you see this? Reddit etc.
Palestinians save Israeli officer from stone-throwing settlers. Not seeing it on major media and a little reluctant to link to sites I’ve not visited before.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:58:37am

I just got the invite for my 40th High School reunion. 40 years. Shee-it.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:59:21am

Charlie Pierce’s take on the debate:

The Republican Debate Was a Sorry Mess
Wrong network, wrong questions, wrong answers, wrong goals.

What a thoroughgoing, catastrophic burlesque this entire political party is. It should be torn down and replaced by a good, honest brothel. Maybe Trump can subcontract out the job of building the lobby.

esquire.com

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:59:22am
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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 8:59:58am

After reading through this morning the point that hit me hardest is how the media focused on Trumps insult rather than the policy insult and injuries proposed by the candidates on PP and abortion. BOOM.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:01:24am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:02:09am

re: #393 Great White Snark

After reading through this morning the point that hit me hardest is how the media focused on Trumps insult rather than the policy insult and injuries proposed by the candidates on PP and abortion. BOOM.

There will be plenty of time to think about the womenfolk before the general. Right now, it’s all about ratings!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:03:31am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:03:43am

re: #394 darthstar

Tell the GOP to make their own sandwiches. And if they have any trouble try using Cook’s Illustrated. cooksillustrated.com

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:03:50am

re: #393 Great White Snark

After reading through this morning the point that hit me hardest is how the media focused on Trumps insult rather than the policy insult and injuries proposed by the candidates on PP and abortion. BOOM.

Your comment is in a similar area as my #388.

The mud sling is more important than the actual thinking in the mud that was thrown.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:06:59am

re: #388 ObserverArt

It’s why the League of Women voters don’t get any of the debates anymore. Candidates are too busy belching platitudes to the rubes and don’t want to answer real questions anymore.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:07:11am

re: #296 Teukka

I don’t get those ridiculously competitive reality shows either, and though I’m not formally educated in psychology, something feels very risky about fostering such a competitive atmosphere in society.

But then again, I’m a bit old-skool, I feel that there is such a thing as excessive individualism. Yes, we are individuals, but we do have responsibilities to our community, society and world too, responsibilities which are hardwired into our brains, as we humans are, despite the best of denials, a flock animal.

It’s as my favourite author says:

HUMANISM An exaltation of freedom but one limited by the necessity to integrate ourselves into nature and society.

The idea of balance is one that is anathema to many people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:07:28am
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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:09:10am

re: #399 Amory Blaine

League Refuses to “Help Perpetrate a Fraud”

“The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debate scheduled for mid-October because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter,” League President Nancy M. Neuman said today.

“It has become clear to us that the candidates’ organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and honest answers to tough questions,” Neuman said. “The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public.”

Neuman said that the campaigns presented the League with their debate agreement on
September 28, two weeks before the scheduled debate. The campaigns’ agreement was negotiated “behind closed doors” and vas presented to the League as “a done deal,” she said, its 16 pages of conditions not subject to negotiation.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:10:32am

re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White

I just got the invite for my 40th High School reunion. 40 years. Shee-it.

My 50th HS reunion will be held next year, at the Country Club like allo f the other HS reunions in this town. They held a picnic in the park across the street as a part of the 25th. I didn’t go to that either. HS was in the town we landed in when Dad retired from the Navy. Great school, great teachers, entirely white in the Sixties, very entitled kids. The morning after graduation I threw my stuff in the car and moved to Santa Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:11:24am

butthurt from the peanut gallery:

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:12:01am

I predict that should Trump somehow get elected president, impeachment proceedings will start before his first year is over.

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allegro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:13:09am

re: #405 Skip Intro

I predict that should Trump somehow get elected president, impeachment proceedings will start before his first year is over.

By his own party.

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:13:52am

re: #405 Skip Intro

I’d give him 3 months, impeachment completed no more than 30 days after that

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:14:17am

re: #402 Amory Blaine

League Refuses to “Help Perpetrate a Fraud”

Well…there it is. Debates. Don’t think so. The New American President reality show. Yes!

Hey, maybe they will get numbers like a Super Bowl, and we can get Katy Perry to do a real bad “halftime” show, while The New American President candidates are back getting primed on their next plays and defenses for the second half.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:16:39am

re: #405 Skip Intro

I predict that should Trump somehow get elected president, impeachment proceedings will start before his first year is over.

Your being generous.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:17:18am

re: #405 Skip Intro

I predict that should Trump somehow get elected president, impeachment proceedings will start before his first year is over.

I suspect in his mind he plans to just tell everybody what to do—he’s the President, isn’t he? He’d do nothing but issue Executive Orders. I don’t know if there’s any official limitation on how many a President can issue…anybody know?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:17:27am

re: #405 Skip Intro

Much as I love to see those folks fighting among themselves, I don’t see this Republican Congress impeaching a Republican president.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:18:56am

re: #407 Jayleia

I’d give him 3 months, impeachment completed no more than 30 days after that

Well, the problem is that Trump won’t accept that. I also predict that he’ll attempt to have the leaders of Congress arrested for treason, declare a national emergency, and set him self up as the supreme ruler of America, because “the people, they love me”.

And no, I’m not kidding.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:19:27am

re: #402 Amory Blaine

Umm, that article is from 1988. I know things have only gotten worse, but that’s almost 27 years old.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:19:43am

re: #411 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Much as I love to see those folks fighting among themselves, I don’t see this Republican Congress impeaching a Republican president.

He’ll be sure to pick a running mate that everyone would rather die than see succeed to the Presidency.

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allegro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:20:49am

re: #411 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Much as I love to see those folks fighting among themselves, I don’t see this Republican Congress impeaching a Republican president.

I dunno. He called them all stupid in the debate. There are a lot of egos in there to rival his so there’s a limit to what they’ll take from him methinks.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:21:57am

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’ll be sure to pick a running mate that everyone would rather die than see succeed to the Presidency.

Ted Cruz.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:22:16am

re: #411 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Much as I love to see those folks fighting among themselves, I don’t see this Republican Congress impeaching a Republican president.

If I learned anything about American politics in the last…oh 6 and 3/4 years it is to never say something will never happen.

I’ve given up on predictions. All you can do is observe in amazement.

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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:22:30am

re: #395 darthstar

There will be plenty of time to think about the womenfolk before the general. Right now, it’s all about ratings!

Ah yes the “entertainment” phase. ‘scuse me while I hurl.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:22:37am

re: #416 stpaulbear

Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz will secretly lead the impeachment proceedings.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:24:45am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz will secretly lead the impeachment proceedings.

Ted “Judas” Cruz.

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allegro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:25:54am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz will secretly lead the impeachment proceedings.

Cruz would frag him in the men’s room.

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:26:42am

re: #421 allegro

And cook bacon at the same time.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:27:00am

re: #421 allegro

And do a few other things to him in the men’s room. /half

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:31:23am

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

My 50th HS reunion will be held next year, at the Country Club like allo f the other HS reunions in this town. They held a picnic in the park across the street as a part of the 25th. I didn’t go to that either. HS was in the town we landed in when Dad retired from the Navy. Great school, great teachers, entirely white in the Sixties, very entitled kids. The morning after graduation I threw my stuff in the car and moved to Santa Cruz.

I went to my 20th and 35th. Don’t know if I will go to another, maybe the 50th if i make it that far.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:33:12am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:33:32am
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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:33:58am

So my friends might it be a good idea to sink this Page? Pretty odious if you ask me and at least 4 others, mostly page authors. 5 more down and it’s gone IIRC. Regime change? Really?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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WhatEVs  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:34:24am

Fascinating. Erick Erickson: As much as I do personally like Donald Trump, his comment about Megyn Kelly on CNN is a bridge too far for me.

A bridge too far: good intentions just tried too hard and it didn’t quite work.

Operation Market Garden envisions 35,000 [Allied troops] being flown 300 miles from air bases in England and being dropped as much as 64 miles behind enemy lines in the Netherlands. “We’re going to lay a carpet, as it were, of airborne troops” over which armored divisions of XXX Corps can pass and confidently suggests that “We shall seize the bridges - it’s all a question of bridges - with thunderclap surprise, and hold them until they can be secured”.

After securing Nijmegen Bridge, XXX Corps waits several hours for its infantry to secure the town. The Germans, now on full alert, intercept and gun down numerous Poles during their drop; only a handful survive to reinforce the British. After days of house-to-house fighting at Arnhem, pitted against crack SS infantry backed by panzers, the outgunned paratroops are captured or forced to withdraw. Arnhem itself is indiscriminately razed. Although Operation Market Garden is determined by Montgomery and his High Command to be 90% successful, most of those who actually carried it out feel quite differently. Urquhart escapes Arnhem with fewer than a fifth of his original 10 thousand crack troops; those who were too badly injured to flee stay behind and cover the withdraw, then give themselves up. Urquhart confronts Browning about his personal sentiments regarding the operation; did it go as well as Montgomery estimates? Browning’s reply (and the film’s last line of dialogue, not counting the Allied prisoners who sing Abide With Me en route to the German POW camp) contradicts his earlier optimism for Market Garden: “Well, as you know, I always felt we tried to go a bridge too far.”

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:34:51am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

butthurt from the peanut gallery:

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A vast, rightwing, establishment conspiracy?

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Great White Snark  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:34:55am

re: #423 PhillyPretzel

And do a few other things to him in the men’s room. /half

Just a wide stance…
//snerk

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:36:28am

re: #427 Great White Snark

Done.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:37:58am

re: #413 stpaulbear

Yes. I know it’s old, I was qualifying my previous statement that the LOWV don’t do debates anymore because they are not debates. Although, the sentiment described in the statement is just as relevant today.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:39:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:40:10am
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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:40:30am
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:41:42am
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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:43:22am
True, but for Fox to have an audience for those idiots, people have to continue finding conservatism attractive enough to be willing to associate with it. Most conservative politicians know to use those scented trash bags to keep people from noticing the stench of conservative ideology. Trump, on the other hand, backs up the garbage truck and dumps it all out in the open where it becomes almost impossible to ignore just how fetid it truly is. Fox wants Trump shut down so he doesn’t start scaring off those conservatives who haven’t already totally lost their sense of smell.

Kriselda Gray at The Fogbow

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:43:25am

bwahahhhaaaaa (especially for the Bloomberg quote):

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:45:12am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well. because Trump is the vilest of candidates and Breitbart is the vilest of web sites.

Of course they love him, just like the vile Rush Limbaugh does.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:45:48am

Oy Vey. Cruz is now making his comments on what that Trump person the Sump Pump said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:45:49am

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:48:02am
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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:48:29am

re: #388 ObserverArt

Dark_Falcon if you are still lingering…I saw your comment about CNN having more of the debates and being able to “cash in.”

Do you (or anyone else) think that part of the problem with debates are they become commercialized? And like anything, if money is involved, then also comes manipulation to make as much money as possible which might not be fair to a real debate process.

I got a little feel of that the other night. And now that it is said to be the highest rated event in FOX News history, will everyone now be more concerned how they can amp up those ratings and not care so much about the actual debate.

CNN could well hope to feed a fight like TRUMP vs THE GOP and turn this into a fine mud-wrestling contest…and screw the debate. Fling zee mud!

And non-debate debates become a thing and no one hears an actual debate with policy discussion and our politics goes into a deeper garbage pit.

Oh, it does bother me, since the media in the US have played games like this before, but its not something that can be stopped entirely, given the 1st Amendment.

It’s something that both parties must guard against, but its got good points as well. Having 6 debates is going to be a good thing for the Democrats, even if its not as good for Hillary Clinton.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:52:30am
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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:53:14am

re: #428 WhatEVs

Fascinating. Erick Erickson: As much as I do personally like Donald Trump, his comment about Megyn Kelly on CNN is a bridge too far for me.

A bridge too far: good intentions just tried too hard and it didn’t quite work.

If this is Arnhem, then who gets to be the Waffen SS of the 9th and 10th SS Panzer Divisions? We need at least three names, one for the Corps commander and for two division COs.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:54:07am
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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:55:50am

Yeah…let’s blame Clinton for our intra-party problems.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:56:19am

Okay…thank you Erickson and Trump for an entertaining morning.

Have a good day everyone.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:56:54am
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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:57:58am

re: #403 Higgs Boson’s Mate

My 50th HS reunion will be held next year, at the Country Club like allo f the other HS reunions in this town. They held a picnic in the park across the street as a part ofthe 25th. I didn’t go to that either. HS was in the town we landed in when Dad retired from the Navy. Great school, great teachers, entirely white in the Sixties, very entitled kids. The morning after graduation I threw my stuff in the car and moved to Santa Cruz.

I didn’t go to my school class 50th.

After looking at the list attending, there was no one still alive I cared to see.

The late 1960s and early 1970s took quite a toll on my classmates.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 9:59:19am

re: #450 BeenHereAwhile

I have not gone to any class reunion because I do not wish to see the kids who made fun of me all grown up.

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WhatEVs  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:01:18am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:02:46am

re: #447 darthstar

Yeah…let’s blame Clinton for our intra-party problems.

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The blaming of Clinton is to solve the problems, not bemoan them. Well-timed Clinton-bashing is something that unifies Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:03:14am

re: #450 BeenHereAwhile

I didn’t go to my school class 50th.

After looking at the list attending, there was no one still alive I cared to see.

The late 1960s and early 1970s took quite a toll on my classmates.

My 50th is coming up in 5 years.
My graduating class lost four during our junior/senior years and the rest have been departing at an alarming rate ever since 1970.

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WhatEVs  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:03:35am

re: #445 Dark_Falcon

Considering the outcome, probably people you wouldn’t like. :-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:04:25am

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

The blaming of Clinton is to solve the problems, not bemoan them. Well-timed Clinton-bashing is something that unifies Republicans.

And all it’s bullshit because Republicans have no solutions.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:04:39am

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

Well-timed Clinton-bashing is something that unifies Republicans.

Formally and medically known as: Clinton Derangement Syndrome. It’s real and alive in your party.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:05:14am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:05:37am

re: #451 PhillyPretzel

I have not gone to any class reunion because I do not wish to see the kids who made fun of me all grown up.

One of my 4 classmates is BFF with the pope.

And gets along with the Prez.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:06:53am

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

And all it’s bullshit because Republicans have no solutions.

Republicans are reactionary contradictionists. If the Left says something…anything, the Republicans are born and bred to oppose it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:07:06am

Pointing fingers, assigning blame, and name-calling is not a sign of leadership.
People who unify behind that sort of childish behavior, believing it is something to aspire to and brag about, are beyond contempt.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:07:45am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

He seems to be a very open minded person. :)

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:09:34am

re: #460 Dr. Matt

Cleek’s law in action

Today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today, updated daily.

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:09:35am

Since I oppose photos of the Obama’s compared to other primates, I guess I need to be consistent and oppose photos of Trump compared to other primates. If I didn’t need to be consistent (PC?), I would laugh. Bad me.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:10:51am

re: #457 Dr. Matt

Formally and medically known as: Clinton Derangement Syndrome. It’s real and alive in your party.

I know, but to me its better Clinton-bashing than Trump-worship. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

BBL

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:11:44am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

One of my 4 classmates is BFF with the pope.

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And gets along with the Prez.

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You had one make it through eh?

The two guys that went into the priesthood from my school crashed and burned. One is now a devote atheist and rails against the Catholic church. The other guy just went back to living and doesn’t really even mention it all that much.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:12:22am

Perhaps it’s my handheld, but the photos posted today on LGF seem to be waaay too large to fit the image display.

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b_sharp  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:13:09am

Roosh V.

Piece of shit or piece of shit?

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Jayleia  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:13:44am

re: #464 retired cynic

For Obama, I’m in agreement. After all there is a long, LONG history of that racist trope…

I don’t think I have seen anyone express racial prejudice against caucasians by comparing us to any primate. Or if so, it was so minor I didn’t notice.

I LOL’d at the hair…if that makes me bad, I don’t want to be good.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:14:29am

re: #462 PhillyPretzel

He seems to be a very open minded person. :)

Not when it comes to child abuse. He’s The Wolf—goes in and cleans up messes.

O’Malley has settled 101 abuse claims and claims to have initiated a zero-tolerance policy against sexual abuse. He also instituted one of the first comprehensive sexual abuse policies in the Roman Catholic Church.[11] On December 5, 2013 O’Malley announced a pontifical approved commission whose purpose is to prevent clerical sexual abuse and to help victims.[12]

en.wikipedia.org

(Note he caught shit from the anti-abortion right for doing Ted Kennedy’s funeral.)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:15:49am

re: #466 ObserverArt

You had one make it through eh?

The two guys that went into the priesthood from my school crashed and burned. One is now a devote atheist and rails against the Catholic church. The other guy just went back to living and doesn’t really even mention it all that much.

We started with 65. Four were left when I crapped out at 5 yrs.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:19:32am

This what I’m seeing:

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:21:34am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

We started with 65. Four were left when I crapped out at 5 yrs.

This is an odd situation where I can admire those who made it through, and sometimes admire those who crapped out more.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:21:35am

re: #467 BeenHereAwhile

Perhaps it’s my handheld, but the photos posted today on LGF seem to be waaay too large to fit the image display.

Returned full-frame on the wide laptop machine that sent them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:22:28am

re: #465 Dark_Falcon

I know, but to me its better Clinton-bashing than Trump-worship. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

BBL

Seriously, you just stated that it’s a one or the other choice to be an asshat, instead of being an intelligent, thinking, thoughtful adult?

SERIOUSLY???

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:23:34am

re: #472 BeenHereAwhile

This what I’m seeing:

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Do you see this button?


It’s for the mobile version of LGF.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:24:57am

re: #476 Dr. Matt

Do you see this button?
[Embedded image]

It’s for the mobile version of LGF.

LOL! I was looking at the very serious guy in the weird suit who appears ready to take action at a moment’s notice.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:25:02am

re: #473 wrenchwench

This is an odd situation where I can admire those who made it through, and sometimes admire those who crapped out more.

It was a rough process, essentially halving each class for 6 years or so, then handcarrying the survivors for another 7. They can’t afford that anymore—nowhere near enough intake.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:27:01am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! I was looking at the very serious guy in the weird suit who appears to take action at a moment’s notice.

They’re all in weird suits.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:27:45am

A joke. This is a bit silly but since I continue to at least consider vegetarianism it kind of resonated with me. :

David received a parrot for his birthday. This parrot was fully grown with a bad attitude and worse vocabulary. Every other word was an expletive. Those that weren’t expletives were, to say the least, rude.

David tried hard to change the bird’s attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, and anything else that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird and the bird got worse. He shook the bird and the bird got madder and ruder.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird squawking, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet.

David, frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird, quickly opened the freezer door. The parrot calmly stepped out onto David’s extended arm and said, “I’m sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness.”

David was astounded at the bird’s change in attitude and was about to ask what changed him when the parrot continued, “May I ask what the chicken did?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:28:11am

this is nice:

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:29:00am

Phone numbers, email addresses
Next thing you know he’ll be giving out someone’s credit card numbers

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:29:14am

This Trump phenomenon is really amazing, I’ve never seen anything like it. I bet Reince Priebus is drinking heavily. I’d love to be with each campaign to know what they really think about Trump.

And of course, it’s all the Democrats fault. Even better. There is no accountability within the GOP. I hope this wakes up the country to their extreme views, but I’m not betting on it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:31:24am

re: #480 Shiplord Kirel

That earned a belly laugh.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:33:33am

And…Perry wins
Diving on the Trump grenade for the good of the Party

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:36:02am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

One of my 4 classmates is BFF with the pope.

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And gets along with the Prez.

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Red cap?! Tripping.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:38:44am

re: #474 Decatur Deb

Returned full-frame on the wide laptop machine that sent them.

But it’s still sooo much better now than back in the day (2008) when LGF videos tended to be Flash, and handheld processor being the choke point that made reading LGF on a handheld more of a kludge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:40:11am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart

Phone numbers, email addresses
Next thing you know he’ll be giving out someone’s credit card numbers

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His email address was a secret?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:43:00am

re: #486 William Lewis

Red cap?! Tripping.

You Anglo-catholics are easy. (One of the college-age replacements that backfilled our 5th year class is also an Archbishop. We don’t keep in touch.)

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:43:52am

Serious issues like the Planned Parenthood farce? They’ll control the narrative towards abortion because all their other policy ideas are a fucking nightmare. Tell us all about how lowering taxes on the rich further will bring prosperity you fucking morans. Cut SSI? Fuck you. 15 bux an hour minimum wage? You are goddamned lucky we ain’t demanding 20 you greedy fucking pigs.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:46:09am

the bottom 20% of the republican party is bitch slapping the party establishment, which is desperately trying to saw off the bottom 20% like a gangrenous leg

whatever happens, a large chunk of the republican voting block is now bitter enemies with the rest of it

good work, reince!

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:47:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:48:27am

This is just too sad.
Especially since some out there will applaud it, while ignoring what any of them actually said themselves at the debate and on the campaign trail.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:49:21am

re: #450 BeenHereAwhile

I didn’t go to my school class 50th.

After looking at the list attending, there was no one still alive I cared to see.

The late 1960s and early 1970s took quite a toll on my classmates.

Our city council put up a black granite wall engraved with the names of our fallen back to WWI. When I finally felt okay with reading the names from the late 1960s and early 1970s I kept thinking, “Damn, they got him, too.”

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:55:16am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

You Anglo-catholics are easy. (One of the college-age replacements that backfilled our 5th year class is also an Archbishop. We don’t keep in touch.)

Heh. Even in your branch I only know regular buck bishops.

Had our bishop and about 2/3 of the priests in the diocese show up for this mornings ordination. Older woman getting her permanent diaconate doing nursing home work. She’ll be really good at it. He son’s in his last year of seminary and delivered the sermon. A good morning, though yours at habitat was the better.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2015 • 10:57:38am

re: #495 William Lewis

Heh. Even in your branch I only know regular buck bishops.

Had our bishop and about 2/3 of the priests in the diocese show up for this mornings ordination. Older woman getting her permanent diaconate doing nursing home work. She’ll be really good at it. He son’s in his last year of seminary and delivered the sermon. A good morning, though yours at habitat was the better.

We’re light on mommy-priests. I’ve re-hydrated re-beered. Now off to the shower.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 11:26:26am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart

Phone numbers, email addresses
Next thing you know he’ll be giving out someone’s credit card numbers

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Aw, poor widdle Ewick—he’s always been so polite to everyone (send rock salt to Olympia Snow anyone?)

wonkette.com

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2015 • 11:35:00am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is just too sad.
Especially since some out there will applaud it, while ignoring what any of them actually said themselves at the debate and on the campaign trail.

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Yeah—with all the crude, misogynist things that have been said by the rightwingers, it’s kind of obnoxious that delicate flower, Megyn Kelly is now the rallying point for their outrage. (And the fucking media buys into it like it’s a giant BOGO sale.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 8, 2015 • 2:59:19pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Given how long they hung they hung Malkin out to dry, their influence is zero.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 8, 2015 • 3:37:33pm

re: #451 PhillyPretzel

Not only that, but many have started to die as well.


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