Ben Carson Edges Ahead Nationally in New Poll. Why?

A theory that is mine
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For the first time, Ben Carson has edged ahead of Donald Trump in a new national Times/CBS News poll.

Why is Trump slipping?

I strongly suspect it’s because Donald Trump isn’t religious enough for the right wing base; they love his anti-immigrant xenophobia and his megalomaniac personality, but when he tries to appear as a pious Bible-thumper it’s just not believable, even to people who’ll believe almost anything.

Ben Carson, on the other hand, is the real deal; a religious fanatic who believes the Earth was created in six literal days, rejects the science of evolution and the Big Bang and pretty much everything else not related to neurosurgery, and is convinced the End Times are coming. When Ben Carson waves a Bible around, he’s not pandering in the least.

Xenophobia counts for a lot to the right wing, but honest religious fanaticism of the extreme fundamentalist variety is even more appealing.

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459 comments
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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:17:17am

Q: Why are Carson and Trump leading the GOP field?

A: Because some people just want to watch the world burn.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:18:16am

You might be on to something, but I think it may have to do with poll-chasing. Carson’s had a string of good polls out of Iowa, which is far more extreme than the general GOP population, so voters in other states are taking note of Carson’s rise in Iowa, and are deciding that he’s going to be their leader for now.

Until he says something that is so outrageous that they’ll move on to the next flavor of the month.

Oh wait, he might have just stepped in it:

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:18:34am

13 Ridiculous Things Ben Carson Actually Believes

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:18:53am

We are talking about the GOP primary voting base, not about America as a whole.

I have a little bit more faith in my country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:18:54am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:19:19am

I do think it’s the religious thing too. That is definitely Donald’s heel.

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:19:56am

Americans apparently want a theocratic dictatorship rather than a fascist one. No practical difference in the end, but carrying a cross and a bible wrapped in the flag will get you power faster than just the flag.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:20:17am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And if he were ahead, he’d be bragging. Something tells me that Donnie doesn’t take losing well at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:20:22am

Ben is also doing better with the Fundie Christian voters, many of them see Trump as a man who made his millions on gambling, drinking and whoremongering.

No way the Donald can shake that image.

‘Coz he did…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:21:08am

re: #7 William Lewis

GOP base voters Americans apparently want a theocratic dictatorship rather than a fascist one. No practical difference in the end, but carrying a cross and a bible wrapped in the flag will get you power faster than just the flag.

please differentiate, for the sake of our sanity if nothing else…

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:22:19am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

please differentiate, for the sake of our sanity if nothing else…

I’m not sure there is a difference anymore…

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BlueGrl21  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:22:47am

The color of his skin is a factor too…don’t discount that.

“See? We’re not racist. We have one of our own!”

It SHOULD be about his platforms and crazy, but that’s only part of it. The fact that Conservatives can point to him as proof they’re not racist is part of the equation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:23:19am

Ben has jumped the shark with his back to back GUNS COULD OF STOPPED TEH HOLOCAUST!!!!!1!!!!! and ABORSHUNS IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!!! but apparently that plays well with the base.

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WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:23:27am

re: #1 KGxvi

Q: Why are Carson and Trump leading the GOP field?

A: Because some people just want to watch the world burn.

I wonder if this many people truly want The End Times to be ushered in. I mean, is there really true excitement about the end of the world?

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:23:38am

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:23:50am

re: #12 BlueGrl21

The color of his skin is a factor too…don’t discount that.

“See? We’re not racist. We have one of our own!”

It SHOULD be about his platforms and crazy, but that’s only part of it. The fact that Conservatives can point to him as proof they’re not racist is part of the equation.

He’s the answer to their prayers, a successful black man who is willing to regurgitate all the craziness that they’ve believed for years. He’s their very own Uncle Ruckus.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:24:09am

re: #12 BlueGrl21

The color of his skin is a factor too…don’t discount that.

“See? We’re not racist. We have one of our own!”

It SHOULD be about his platforms and crazy, but that’s only part of it. The fact that Conservatives can point to him as proof they’re not racist is part of the equation.

“Ben Carson is a complete and utter idiot.”
“AH HA! Now who is being racist, libtard?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:24:12am

re: #15 Lidane

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!

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He’s clueless so of course he’s the GOP frontrunner.

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Whack-A-Mole  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:24:22am

re: #14 WhatEVs

I wonder if this many people truly want The End Times to be ushered in. I mean, is there really true excitement about the end of the world?

IMO, it’s all about fear. The world is changing around them and they can’t handle it. Better the end of it all than having to change.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:24:46am

re: #14 WhatEVs

I wonder if this many people truly want The End Times to be ushered in. I mean, is there really true excitement about the end of the world?

WERE ALL GOING TO BE RAPTURED INTO TEH HEAVENS BY JESUS BEFORE ALL U HEATHEN BLASPHEMERS GAY SEXXERS BABBY KILLERS GET TORTURED TO DEATH FOREVER!!!!11!!!!

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:24:51am

re: #3 Kragar

13 Ridiculous Things Ben Carson Actually Believes

Anarchy could cancel the 2016 election

Carson warned in an interview in 2014 that if we “continue down this pathway that we are going down,” referring to “this pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party,” then the anarchy could lead to the 2016 election being called off. He claimed that the growing national debt, ISIS and the then-Democratic controlled U.S. Senate’s refusal to consider legislation passed by the Republican House of Representatives all pointed toward the idea that the country is headed toward anarchy.

If Carson’s prediction proved to be true, he said, Obama could declare martial law and the 2016 election would not occur.

This is the ultimate wingnut revolution fantasy, in which they get to completely ignore the inconvenient rule of law.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:25:40am

re: #17 Kragar

“Ben Carson is a complete and utter idiot.”
“AH HA! Now who is being racist, libtard?”

I’d laugh, but that’s exactly the response I’ve seen for weeks now. Any time you criticize his latest craziness, it’s immediately construed as a racist attack by the same morons who spent years squealing like stuck pigs any time you suggested their criticism of the President was due to racism.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:26:57am

re: #12 BlueGrl21

The color of his skin is a factor too…don’t discount that.

“See? We’re not racist. We have one of our own!”

It SHOULD be about his platforms and crazy, but that’s only part of it. The fact that Conservatives can point to him as proof they’re not racist is part of the equation.

Yes, but it’s also a big detriment, because a large portion of the GOP voting base actually is racist. A lot of those people won’t be able to hold their noses and vote for an African American just for the optics.

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WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:27:02am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

WERE ALL GOING TO BE RAPTURED INTO TEH HEAVENS BY JESUS BEFORE ALL U HEATHEN BLASPHEMERS GAY SEXXERS BABBY KILLERS GET TORTURED TO DEATH FOREVER!!!!11!!!!

Quite appealing to some apparently.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:14am

DONALD:
HURR HURR DON’T BELIEVE TEH DUMMIES & LOSERS!!!! I AM STILL WAY AHEAD!!!!!!

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:15am

re: #14 WhatEVs

Biblical end times? No, probably not. But something along the lines of Project Mayhem or Fsociety? That you might be able to talk me into.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:22am

re: #22 Targetpractice

I’d laugh, but that’s exactly the response I’ve seen for weeks now. Any time you criticize his latest craziness, it’s immediately construed as a racist attack by the same morons who spent years squealing like stuck pigs any time you suggested their criticism of the President was due to racism.

So true. I see them do that with all minority conservatives. Remember the idiot who called Sanders a national socialist. He’s Mexican-American and the white liberals who criticized his ignorance were told they couldn’t do it because “He’s Latino, he knows what socialism is.” Now nevermind the fact that the guy is American born and raised and has never actually lived in a socialist country. Wingnuts fling all sorts of racist shit but the second a liberal criticizes a minority conservative, they’re racists and t’s proof of liberalism’s “real racism.” Nevermind the fact that Carson would be equally loony if he were white and there are a lot more white Ben Carson types in this country than black ones who believe the crazy shit he does about slavery and the Holocaust.

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:25am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump says polls are “not very scientific” now that he’s no. 2 in Iowa bit.ly

Dr. Carson, now, he’s comfortable with things being ‘not scientific.’

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bratwurst  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:27am

It is entirely possible the ultimate nominee will lose Iowa. This was the case in both 2008 and 2012, although Mitt was “accidentally” declared the winner.

The question if Trump and his organization are pragmatic enough to recognize this and move more of their time and effort elsewhere. One suspects that Trump’s ego may be so fragile that it cannot stand up to being second (or third) place ANYWHERE.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:28:53am

re: #22 Targetpractice

I’d laugh, but that’s exactly the response I’ve seen for weeks now. Any time you criticize his latest craziness, it’s immediately construed as a racist attack by the same morons who spent years squealing like stuck pigs any time you suggested their criticism of the President was due to racism.

I’m already getting it too. My response is, “Last I checked, crazy knows no racial boundaries.”

Calling me a racist for having issues with Ben Carson is a dead-end proposition. I have a photographic memory for words. I just fling back the shit I’ve been hearing for the past 7 years and it tends to make the point.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:29:18am

re: #16 Targetpractice

He’s the answer to their prayers, a successful black man who is willing to regurgitate all the craziness that they’ve believed for years. He’s their very own Uncle Ruckus.

Upding for the Uncle Ruckus reference.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:29:22am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Yes, but it’s also a big detriment, because a large portion of the GOP voting base actually is racist. A lot of those people won’t be able to hold their noses and vote for an African American just for the optics.

Which is why I suspect the craziness is an act, something his campaign managers are using to make the base feel comfortable supporting him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:30:03am

Speaking of polls:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:30:04am

re: #29 bratwurst

It is entirely possible the ultimate nominee will lose Iowa. This was the case in both 2008 and 2012, although Mitt was “accidentally” declared the winner.

The question if Trump and his organization are pragmatic enough to recognize this and move more of their time and effort elsewhere. One suspects that Trump’s ego may be so fragile that it cannot stand up to being second (or third) place ANYWHERE.

I think not only is it possible, it’s probable. Bush was the last Iowa winner to win the whole thing. NH and SC will be interesting though. The eventual winner I predict will win one of those three.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:30:27am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of polls:

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Webb-Deez Nuts!

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:30:55am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of polls:

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There would be nothing funnier than watching Webb be next year’s spoiler. But I don’t really see it happening.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:31:09am

re: #15 Lidane

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!

When I’m President I Will Veto Any Debt Ceiling Raise

Hold up. Is the debt ceiling even subject to a veto?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:31:54am

re: #36 Targetpractice

There would be nothing funnier than watching Webb be next year’s spoiler. But I don’t really see it happening.

He won’t have enough money IMO to mount a serious ndy run.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:11am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Yes, but it’s also a big detriment, because a large portion of the GOP voting base actually is racist. A lot of those people won’t be able to hold their noses and vote for an African American just for the optics.

That’s why I think he’s just the latest bright, shiny object for Conservatives. Won’t last.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:11am

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:14am

re: #37 makeitstop

Hold up. Is the debt ceiling even subject to a veto?

yes, it is.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:19am

re: #15 Lidane

Carson: When I’m President I Will Veto Any Debt Ceiling Raise

“When I’m President, The Economy WILL Crash.”

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:24am

Wowee, do these people have balls…

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retired cynic  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:32:44am

OT: If all of this Carson-Trump stuff is making you gag (join me), try this for instant relief:

thisiscolossal.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:33:41am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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That sounds classy but the only conquering he’ll be doing wlll be of his bowels on the poor rug of whatever hotel lets him stay there.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:03am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes, it is.

Ah, thanks. Wasn’t sure.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:12am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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“Raping and pillaging and conquering are on the agenda”.

The Wash DC area is very afraid.

//

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:40am

Vikings had pooper boys too!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:41am

re: #47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Raping and pillaging and conquering are on the agenda”.

The Wash DC area is very afraid.

//

We’re petrified. //

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:43am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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Alert the SS Secret Service.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:34:58am

Vikings really never got to Western Ireland. All I’m saying.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:35:15am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is sort of the problem when you justify your campaign on the basis of the polls…..

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:35:15am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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DC police are going to have their hands full. DC Sanitation/Department of Health? Get those Hazmat suits ready!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:35:23am

re: #46 makeitstop

Ah, thanks. Wasn’t sure.

Obama threatened to veto the debt ceiling bill if it contained any spending cuts.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:36:09am

Has Bernie come out and said he objected to the video first? Hehe. ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:36:30am

re: #52 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is sort of the problem when you justify your campaign on the basis of the polls…..

It is a real American weakness, we want miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and the election results thirteen months in advance…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:36:37am

re: #53 lawhawk

DC police are going to have their hands full. DC Sanitation/Department of Health? Get those Hazmat suits ready!

I see you have been bodyslamming the Crowderheads

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:37:21am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

But bodyslam Cliven Bundy to the ground, and all of a sudden it’s tyranny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:39:31am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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did you see on his FB page that he posted a YouTube link to one of the Daleiden videos?

He’s also begging for someone to give him free access to Nexis so he can “use it for the revolution”.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:39:36am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

They’re utterly predictable - even when you point out the obvious. Authoritarian, except when you question their right to question authority.

Chowderheads are like Eric Cartman. Only they make even less sense.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:40:06am

re: #60 lawhawk

They’re utterly predictable - even when you point out the obvious. Authoritarian, except when you question their right to question authority.

Chowderheads are like Eric Cartman. Only they make even less sense.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:42:46am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

BarbWire Pundit: Armed White People Must Stop Obama Before He Sparks Nuclear War Against America

But doesn’t Obama want to still live in America, too? I mean, why nuke it, you know?

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:44:26am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

OANN declared itself credible. What more do you want?

@OANN
A credible source for national and international headlines. An independent, cutting edge platform for keeping viewers informed. Join the conversation!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:45:42am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

I see you have been bodyslamming the Crowderheads

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Complaint? They have been fucking armed to the teeth. These people are hopelessly idiotic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:46:37am

re: #62 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But doesn’t Obama want to still live in America, too? I mean, why nuke it, you know?

////

I love how their own violent fantasies are projected onto Obama.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:46:46am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

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mr.fusion  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:46:51am

re: #58 jaunte

But bodyslam Cliven Bundy to the ground, and all of a sudden it’s tyranny.

Exactly….isn’t it interesting that the same people so concerned with “big government” and “teh tyranny” seem to be just a-ok with cops shooting unarmed citizens and executing people for selling loosy cigarettes?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:47:26am

re: #58 jaunte

But bodyslam Cliven Bundy to the ground, and all of a sudden it’s tyranny.

Shit expecting old man Bundy to pay his taxes is tyranny.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:48:02am

re: #66 Kragar

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Yep. Really fuck conservatives and their racist bullshit.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:48:12am

re: #66 Kragar

Completely different situation! At Bundy Ranch the lawbreaker civil disobedience practitioner was white.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:49:07am

re: #67 mr.fusion

Exactly….isn’t it interesting that the same people so concerned with “big government” and “teh tyranny” seem to be just a-ok with cops shooting unarmed citizens and executing people for selling loosy cigarettes?

Because they’re not anti big government and anti tyranny. They’re anti government being used to help poor people or to uphold civl rights. They’re a bunch of big government hypocrites. Conservatism is and has never been about limiting the government. It’s been about using the government to preserve the power of the already powerful.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:49:19am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Shit expecting old man Bundy to pay his taxes is tyranny.

HURR HURR TEH TAXES IS TEH SLAVERYS & ALL TEH HOLOCUASTS PUT TOGETHER!!!!!!11!!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:49:24am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Shit expecting old man Bundy to pay his taxes is tyranny.

Expecting old man Bundy to pay taxes and not trespass on federal land is tyranny. To follow the law is tyranny (when he decided all of a sudden he was no longer going to follow federal grazing fee payment structure).

And all the right wingers flocked to support him, up to and including taking aim with their firearms at federal officials.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:50:13am

OT:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:50:14am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I love how their own violent fantasies are projected onto Obama.

“G-d’s gonna destroy America because abortion and SSM and why does Obama want to destroy America??”

///

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:50:32am

re: #73 lawhawk

Expecting old man Bundy to pay taxes and not trespass on federal land is tyranny. To follow the law is tyranny (when he decided all of a sudden he was no longer going to follow federal grazing fee payment structure).

And all the right wingers flocked to support him, up to and including taking aim with their firearms at federal officials.

Yep as I said fuck conservatives and their racist bullshit. These guys actually threatened law enforcement with deadly weapons and no one laid a finger on them and all the conservative hacks in the media lined up to defend them.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:50:36am

re: #58 jaunte

But bodyslam Cliven Bundy to the ground, and all of a sudden it’s tyranny.

Because Bundy is a white respectable, white religious, white fiercely independent male citizen!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:50:44am

re: #75 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“G-d’s gonna destroy America because abortion and SSM and why does Obama want to destroy America??”

///

Nailed it.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:51:02am

re: #70 jaunte

Completely different situation! At Bundy Ranch the lawbreaker civil disobedience practitioner was white.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:51:48am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

it’s not really nuclear war if only one side has nuclear weapons. i mean, unless while we’ve all been joking about backyard ICBM’s they’ve actually gone and gotten them.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:52:02am

re: #15 Lidane

FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY!

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:52:41am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:53:11am

So this proposed budget deal…basically kicks the political can to 2017. The WH didn’t give up anything as near as I can tell.

A bit surprised. If approved, the RWNJ will have to wait a couple of years before setting the world on fire.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:54:32am

re: #79 Kragar

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What a bunch of horseshit. Oh, it’s okay to am at federal land agents but don’t you ever lose your temper with a cop, you deserve everything bad that happens to you! Fuckers. Really their ideology is disgusting.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:56:10am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

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WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:57:08am

re: #83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So this proposed budget deal…basically kicks the political can to 2017. The WH didn’t give up anything as near as I can tell.

A bit surprised. If approved, the RWNJ will have to wait a couple of years before setting the world on fire.

They firmly believe that Romney the 2016 GOP candidate will be the POTUS and then they can collectively burn it all down.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:57:42am

re: #85 lawhawk

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There really is something wrong with them. I mean I don’t even think the people who threatened the BLM should have been manhandled but I am tired of blatant racial double standards by these fascist fuckers.

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:58:14am

re: #83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So this proposed budget deal…basically kicks the political can to 2017. The WH didn’t give up anything as near as I can tell.

A bit surprised. If approved, the RWNJ will have to wait a couple of years before setting the world on fire.

I will laugh my ass off if Boehner gets rid of the Hastert rule long enough to get the Dems and a small number of GOP he’s strong-armed into voting for the deal.

The RWNJ head explosions will be glorious.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:58:46am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

They have a set of people that must absolutely obey the rules and respect authority,
and a set of people who are free to write, and later bend the rules.

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mr.fusion  Oct 27, 2015 • 11:58:49am

re: #86 WhatEVs

They firmly believe that Romney the 2016 GOP candidate will be the POTUS and then they can collectively burn it all down.

Nah, they just know that if they don’t punt until ‘17, the lunatics in the House will demand a default before the ‘16 election, thereby ensuring that no republican ever gets elected again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:00:05pm

re: #89 jaunte

They have a set of people that must absolutely obey the rules and respect authority,
and a set of people who are free to write, and later bend the rules.

Right, the Kim Davises of the world can break the law and be right wing heroes. Break the law and be a minority, you’re a thug who deserves brutality.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:16pm

LOL Trump is really in a rage about Ben Carson getting ahead of him

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A Mom Anon  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:17pm

re: #83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This also means that this crap won’t be going on as people head to the voting booth next November. And that programs like the one who helped my son land a job won’t be cut, thus making the whole process longer and more drawn out than need be. We had huge setbacks during the whole sequester nonsense. Of course that’s not stopping them from scaremongering people about disability benefits and the like, but it won’t take long for people to see it’s bullshit.

The Kid is heading into his 3rd night at work pretty soon. For all the flaws (and trust me, the system and the programs in it are flawed like a mofo) and dragged out time frame involved, it is really a relief to see my kid smiling and happy and responsible going into work. He knew he had to work from 5 til midnight tonight so he took a nap after lunch. He’s made a couple of metalhead friends at work already. He’s stopped biting his nails and chewing on everything. The pacing and self stim repetitive behaviors have lessened dramatically. All from being treated like a human being. Imagine that.

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:32pm

re: #88 Lidane

I will laugh my ass off if Boehner gets rid of the Hastert rule long enough to get the Dems and a small number of GOP he’s strong-armed into voting for the deal.

The RWNJ head explosions will be glorious.

I’m reasonably certain that’s the plan, hence Nancy Pelosi’s inclusion in the discussions.

The Hastert Rule comes from a time when Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay were considered extreme, and Gohmert and Bachmann were considered fringe loonies. The Republcian Caucus had not yet been purged of sanity.

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:35pm

re: #1 KGxvi

Q: Why are Carson and Trump leading the GOP field?

A: Because some people just want to watch the world burn.

And most of them, I’m sure, are going to want to watch it on cable or satellite, from the comfort of their Lay-Z-Boy recliners in their own living rooms, beers in hand, gloating over the imagined comeuppance for Those People, and serene in the assumption that tomorrow will be a Glorious New Day In History.

At least until they finally realize that Fox News isn’t going to be going back on the air any time soon….

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:01:56pm

re: #88 Lidane

I will laugh my ass off if Boehner gets rid of the Hastert rule long enough to get the Dems and a small number of GOP he’s strong-armed into voting for the deal.

The RWNJ head explosions will be glorious.

My daughter has chosen the Dark Side. [ORIGINAL]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:02:52pm

re: #94 Lidane

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I must confess, I really don’t get the pining for outsiders. I want my leaders to have some understanding of what they’re getting into. Nothing Carson has said or done since he declared himself a candidate indicates that he understands how to run a government.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:03:42pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reasonably certain that’s the plan, hence Nancy Pelosi’s inclusion in the discussions.

The Hastert Rule comes from a time when Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay were considered extreme, and Gohmert and Bachmann were considered fringe loonies. The Republcian Caucus had not yet been purged of sanity.

That’s what I’ve been thinking about- what was once fringe is now mainstream for the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:04:37pm

Liberalism has been pretty consistent for the past 40-50 years. Conservatism has gone from being the mantle of the pro-choice and pro-gay rights to the mantle of loonies like Carson. Conservatives have not progressed, they have regressed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:05:14pm

Hell when my Dad was a young guy, Nixon was seen as a right wing asshole. Now he would probably be ideologically speaking in the center if not left of the Democratic Party.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:05:53pm

Charles Johnson,

Who would make a worse president? Donald Trump or Ben Carson?

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:06:01pm
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b_sharp  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:06:03pm

Just when you think it’s safe to go back into your laptop…

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:06:22pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Hell when my Dad was a young guy, Nixon was seen as a right wing asshole. Now he would probably be ideologically speaking in the center if not left of the Democratic Party.

I’ve had RWNJs try to tell me that JFK would be a Republican today. I laughed.

I wasn’t alive when he was POTUS but I’m fairly sure he’d still be a Democrat.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:06:25pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:06:51pm
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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:07:23pm

The only loud noises will be the nattering nabobs screeching like loons at Hillary and the other Democrats in incoherent rage-gasms.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:07:32pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:07:47pm

re: #103 Kragar

The Black Lives Matter shock troopers are going to hurd all the RWNJ into FEMA trailer camp prisons after Obama takes all their gunz.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:08:08pm

re: #105 Lidane

I’ve had RWNJs try to tell me that JFK would be a Republican today. I laughed.

I wasn’t alive when he was POTUS but I’m fairly sure he’d still be a Democrat.

JFK got that “Tax Cuts For The Rich” snowball rolling. He was no angel.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:08:11pm

re: #103 Kragar

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Really Mike because a lot of your views make me think that you would have been just at home with the Brownshirts if not for their rabid antisemitism. Not to mention you espouse much more violent rhetoric than the BLM movement ever has but go ahead cry about how the BLM are the Brownshirts and the thinking part of the country will continue to see people like you as someone too fucked up even to be Rush Limbaugh.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:08:23pm

re: #102 CriticalDragon1177

Both. Each would be awful in different ways.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:08:29pm

Since Halloween is coming up!

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:08:45pm

re: #94 Lidane

You know, call me old fashioned, but when I’m looking for someone to do a job, I actually want them to have some kind of experience.

“I need my house repiped.”
“Well, I’m an outsider, not one of those corrupt lifetime plumbers who carries on giving you a bunch of baloney.”
“I’m convinced! You’re hired!”
“Great, so I’m going to need about $300 and about 100ft of rubber tubing. That should about cover it.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:09:10pm

re: #105 Lidane

I’ve had RWNJs try to tell me that JFK would be a Republican today. I laughed.

I wasn’t alive when he was POTUS but I’m fairly sure he’d still be a Democrat.

They say, he cut taxes but they don’t realize what he cut taxes from and to. Kennedy wasn’t the huge liberal he’s made out to be but for conservatives to claim him as one of their own is just ridiculous.

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Lidane  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:09:21pm

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

JFK got that “Tax Cuts For The Rich” snowball rolling. He was no angel.

True. But I don’t see him siding with the teabaggers, either.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:09:23pm

re: #113 lawhawk

Both. Each would be awful in different ways.

Agree! But if you had to pick, which do you think would be worse? Trump or Carson?

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:09:25pm

re: #79 Kragar

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:09:57pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

That’s what I’ve been thinking about- what was once fringe is now mainstream for the GOP.

House Speaker Gingrich and House Majority Leader DeLay fringe? Nope.

The GOP has been mad for decades.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:10:04pm

Biology can be weird!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:10:13pm

re: #118 CriticalDragon1177

Agree! But if you had to pick, which do you think would be worse? Trump or Carson?

All of them, Katie!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:10:49pm

re: #115 Kragar

You know, call me old fashioned, but when I’m looking for someone to do a job, I actually want them to have some kind of experience.

“I need my house repiped.”
“Well, I’m an outsider, not one of those corrupt lifetime plumbers who carries on giving you a bunch of baloney.”
“I’m convinced! You’re hired!”
“Great, so I’m going to need about $300 and about 100ft of rubber tubing. That should about cover it.”

That’s how I feel too Kragar and when they bitch about “intellectual elitists.” Well I honestly want someone knowledgeable. I saw it as a virtue not a demerit that candidate Obama was a trained constitutional law professor. Much more than someone who just professes they have “common sense” and I’m supposed to take them at their word they do. Besides a lot of right wing “common sense” is stupid bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:11:13pm

re: #120 Nyet

House Speaker Gingrich and House Majority Leader DeLay fringe? Nope.

The GOP has been mad for decades.

Not fringe. Radical. Plus that was literally decades ago.

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:11:34pm

That “brave hero” Edward Snowden!

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:11:44pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I must confess, I really don’t get the pining for outsiders. I want my leaders to have some understanding of what they’re getting into. Nothing Carson has said or done since he declared himself a candidate indicates that he understands how to run a government.

It’s the same thing that happens every election: Wingnuts pine for “outsiders” who have no connections to Washington and thus are seen as “pure”…only to want them out in a couple elections because they’re now part of the shadowy “Washington cartel” or whatever they choose to call it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:11:45pm

re: #121 CriticalDragon1177

Biology can be weird!

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I once saw a “House” episode based on that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:12:17pm

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

JFK got that “Tax Cuts For The Rich” snowball rolling. He was no angel.

Well to be fair, look at what the brackets were in 1960 when he was elected. I am no Norquistan on taxes but I can understand why they needed to be cut. The problem though is the present wingnuts think Clinton era tax brackets are too radically anti-rich which is laughable.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:12:53pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

That’s how I feel too Kragar and when they bitch about “intellectual elitists.” Well I honestly want someone knowledgeable. I saw it as a virtue not a demerit that candidate Obama was a trained constitutional law professor. Much more than someone who just professes they have “common sense” and I’m supposed to take them at their word they do. Besides a lot of right wing “common sense” is stupid bullshit.

“Common sense,” that way that idiots excuse their total lack of knowledge about anything above a fourth grade level of comprehension.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:13:03pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

Not fringe. Radical. Plus that was literally decades ago.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:13:27pm

re: #120 Nyet

House Speaker Gingrich and House Majority Leader DeLay fringe? Nope.

The GOP has been mad for decades.

No, you misunderstand me. I’m talking about guys like Carson. They had a guy like Carson run for president in 2000, Alan Keyes. He barely registered a blip. If Keyes and his fellow fanatic Gary (god I forget his last name( ran today, they’d poll very well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:14:12pm

The R party’s been in the shitter ever since Goldwater IMO. Maybe even longer since Ike in one of his worst moments was pretty quiet about McCarthy.

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b_sharp  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:14:14pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

That’s how I feel too Kragar and when they bitch about “intellectual elitists.” Well I honestly want someone knowledgeable. I saw it as a virtue not a demerit that candidate Obama was a trained constitutional law professor. Much more than someone who just professes they have “common sense” and I’m supposed to take them at their word they do. Besides a lot of right wing “common sense” is stupid bullshit.

Wingnut ‘common sense’ is a magical gut feeling (read ‘emotional response’) that is always right.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:14:52pm

re: #133 b_sharp

Wingnut ‘common sense’ is a magical gut feeling (read ‘emotional response’) that is always right.

It doesn’t need fancy things like logic!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:15:04pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

“Common sense,” that way that idiots excuse their total lack of knowledge about anything above a fourth grade level of comprehension.

My observations exactly.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:15:12pm

re: #118 CriticalDragon1177

Carson. He seems to be a True Believer™.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:16:01pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Gary Bauer… the man who fell off a stage flipping pancakes. The 90s were a much simpler time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:16:08pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

That’s how I feel too Kragar and when they bitch about “intellectual elitists.” Well I honestly want someone knowledgeable. I saw it as a virtue not a demerit that candidate Obama was a trained constitutional law professor. Much more than someone who just professes they have “common sense” and I’m supposed to take them at their word they do. Besides a lot of right wing “common sense” is stupid bullshit.

Oh, no kidding! Mostly, ‘common sense’ is what they shout when their beliefs don’t pass empirical muster:

“The Government should cut back spending in a recession! It’s just common sense!”

“Humans didn’t come from apes! It’s just common sense!”

“Dumping trillions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere can’t cause a problem! It’s just common sense!”

“Expanding the money supply will lead to Weimar style hyperinflation! It’s just common sense!”

“If you throw a witch in the river, she’ll float, because the river won’t have her! It’s just common sense!”

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:16:12pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

No, you misunderstand me. I’m talking about guys like Carson. They had a guy like Carson run for president in 2000, Alan Keyes. He barely registered a blip. If Keyes and his fellow fanatic Gary (god I forget his last name( ran today, they’d poll very well.

I’m just going by what you guys are writing ;)

I’m reasonably certain that’s the plan, hence Nancy Pelosi’s inclusion in the discussions.

The Hastert Rule comes from a time when Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay were considered extreme, and Gohmert and Bachmann were considered fringe loonies. The Republcian Caucus had not yet been purged of sanity.

That’s what I’ve been thinking about- what was once fringe is now mainstream for the GOP.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:16:12pm

So, earlier today, it was reported that Duck Dynasty showed up for a segment on Fox about women and leggings. Now, there’s another segment on Fox where he was opining about something unrelated.

Was this Duck Dynasty day at Fox?

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:16:28pm

At least Rev. Robert Schenck seems to be right on this issue and it sounds like he won’t back down, in spite of the fact that he’s angering a lot of his colleagues.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:17:09pm

I was watching that documentary Outrage about closeted GOPers. Anyhow, Barney Frank made the point that in 1976 that Gerry Ford and Jimmy Carter were pretty close on LGBT rights but Barney pointed out since then, one paty has grown much better on the issue and one party much worse.Here’s a fact. Barry Goldwater who would definitely be old enough to be Ted Cruz and many other young gun GOPers grandpa was more progressive on LGBT issues than pretty much every Republican in office today.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:17:21pm

re: #137 KGxvi

Gary Bauer… the man who fell off a stage flipping pancakes. The 90s were a much simpler time.

Bauer, thank you!

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:17:29pm

re: #127 The Vicious Babushka

Lot of interesting story lines on that show.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:17:29pm

“Common sense” is what gave us the utterly asinine comparison of the federal budget to a household budget.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:17:59pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

“Common sense” is what gave us the utterly asinine comparison of the federal budget to a household budget.

“Run government like you would a business” and other stupid folkisms.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:18:01pm

re: #140 lawhawk

We do regulate cars…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:19:12pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

“Common sense” is what gave us the utterly asinine comparison of the federal budget to a household budget.

Wait - you mean the rest of you don’t print your own money?
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:19:52pm

re: #147 Kragar

We do regulate cars…

Heavily, or VW would not be in its current pickle.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:20:01pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - you mean the rest of you don’t print your own money?
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I use bottlecaps.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:20:06pm

re: #147 Kragar

We do regulate cars…

Heavily in fact. You actually need a license to operate one. In fact, when you sell yours, you have to let the state know who is buying it. Cars are incredibly regulated in this country- much more than guns. Some real geniuses they have at Fox.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:20:24pm

Dim Jim approves this message==>

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:20:41pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

I use bottlecaps.

I still use baseball cards as currency. A Wade Boggs doesn’t go as far as it used to.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:20:56pm

re: #147 Kragar

We do regulate cars…

Fox runs a Gish Gallop clinic. Every day. 24/7/365. Never ending and the end result is a dumbing down of viewers.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:21:02pm

re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White

Cars: production, sale, use… all heavily regulated. Guns: eh, it’s like a mouse, point and click.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:21:02pm

Plus starting the war in Iraq was an absolutely crazy rwnj thing. And not only in retrospect.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:21:38pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim approves this message==>

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Proving that neither Savage nor DimJim know anything about the Brownshirts. I am fucking tired of these people comparing everything they don’t like to the Nazis and I am almost to the point of where I want a fine for that crap. Stop trivializing the Nazis you sick fucks.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:22:22pm

Speaking of bottlecaps, why can’t it be Nov 10th already?!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:23:08pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

Speaking of bottlecaps, why can’t it be Nov 10th already?!

Fallout? I’m afraid once that game comes out, I’m never going to see my brother again.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:23:13pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Proving that neither Savage nor DimJim know anything about the Brownshirts. I am fucking tired of these people comparing everything they don’t like to the Nazis and I am almost to the point of where I want a fine for that crap. Stop trivializing the Nazis you sick fucks.

But the tea partiers and their 2nd Amendment solutions and mobbing the town hall meetings in 2009 were not brown shirt thug tactics at all.

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mr.fusion  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:23:19pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

“Common sense” is what gave us the utterly asinine comparison of the federal budget to a household budget.

Well in all fairness, no household ever spends more money than they take in

Except for mortgages, car loans, student debt…………

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:23:19pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

No surprise

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:23:19pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

Speaking of bottlecaps, why can’t it be Nov 10th already?!

Because war never changes…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:24:05pm

Here’s a hashtag for ya #CrowderIsASackofDiseasedDickmeat

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:24:25pm

re: #155 KGxvi

Cars: production, sale, use… all heavily regulated. Guns: eh, it’s like a mouse, point and click.

What is it they call those things they make you hang on the front and back of the car, and pay for every year? Starts with an ‘L’.

And what’s that thing they make you carry when you’re driving, the one you had to pass a competency test to get? I think it might be the same word.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:24:51pm

re: #164 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s a hashtag for ya #CrowderIsASackofDiseasedDickmeat

I thought Steve0 wanted us to wait for the evidence….

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:24:51pm

Wimpy Goat

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:25:00pm

re: #160 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But the tea partiers and their 2nd Amendment solutions and mobbing the town hall meetings in 2009 were not brown shirt thug tactics at all.

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Seriously, I am loathe and I hate to do the comparision myself but for fuck sake Savage and Hoft, your guys were actually armed and talking baout “second amendment solutions.” BLM folks are mad because people who kill pepole aren’t being prosecuted. Hell, they’re the total opposite of brownshirts who wanted to and did in some cases get off for killing people.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:25:08pm

Kinda ruins the whole cops as target thing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:25:34pm

re: #164 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s a hashtag for ya #CrowderIsASackofDiseasedDickmeat

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How about we change your hashtag to #WhinyRWLoser, Stevie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:25:47pm

She’s going as Skanky Gun Moll, oh wait that’s what she is every day

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CriticalDragon1177  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:26:21pm

re: #164 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s a hashtag for ya #CrowderIsASackofDiseasedDickmeat

Perfect for Steven Crowder, except that its just too long. Twitter has a ridiculously low word count. Won’t be able to say much else, if I include that in a tweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:14pm

re: #172 CriticalDragon1177

Perfect for Steven Crowder, except that its just too long. Twitter has a ridiculously low word count. Won’t be able to say much else, if I include that in a tweet.

Who needs anything else?

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:19pm

re: #102 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

Who would make a worse president? Donald Trump or Ben Carson?

Carson. He’d be all about starting Armageddon.

Trump would only care about inflating his bank account at the countries expense. Damaging but not destroying everything.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:38pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Fallout? I’m afraid once that game comes out, I’m never going to see my brother again.

Yeah, curse my luck, if my schedule for that week is the same as the last two weeks, I’m gonna get the game at the midnight release…then immediately have to go to bed so I can be awake to work the following evening.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:56pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

#CrowdersLouse : Thoughts From Atop An Empty Head

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:56pm

re: #169 lawhawk

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Kinda ruins the whole cops as target thing.

That idiot Scott Walker was going on and on about how Obama’s America isn’t like the one he grew up when it comes to cop safety. Well someone pulled up the statistics of cops killed in the Reagan years when Scotty came of age and nearly twice as much cops were killed despite a smaller population. POTUS is right, every cop being killed is a tragedy but safety of cops isn’t a big problem. Of course, you want everyone who kills a cop to be prosecuted and they are and in fact people who kill cops are far more likely to be sentenced to death. Cops who kill unarmed people are seldom even indicated let alone convicted.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:27:58pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

“Run government like you would a business” and other stupid folkisms.

So we can sell off and/or close down Mississippi and other underperforming states?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:28:17pm

LOL Ben Shapiro has a brocrush on whiny skank anti-Semite Milo Yeahimadumbass

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:28:35pm

re: #171 The Vicious Babushka

She’s going as Skanky Gun Moll, oh wait that’s what she is every day

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It’s going to be something involving guns like Annie Oakley. She really needs a new hobby.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:29:13pm

Please stop talking about Trump or Carson as if they are about to get the nomination. They simply represent the very vocal preferences of a handful of GOP core primary voters.

It is all smoke and mirrors to make the eventual Rubio/Cruz ticket seem sane and qualified.

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Great White Snark  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:29:26pm

Seafood anyone?
Video

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:30:23pm

re: #174 William Lewis

Carson. He’d be all about starting Armageddon.

Trump would only care about inflating his bank account at the countries expense. Damaging but not destroying everything.

When I see Carson and the wingnut End Times fetish, I see it largely as a crutch in the wake of the Cold War’s end. They need something scare people to the polls, like they used to with the idea that a vote for a Democrat was a vote for nuclear war with the Russkies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:30:36pm

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Please stop talking about Trump or Carson as if they are about to get the nomination. They simply represent the very vocal preferences of a handful of GOP core primary voters.

It is all smoke and mirrors to make the eventual Rubio/Cruz ticket seem sane and qualified.

There’s not going to be a Rubio-Cruz ticket. And as long as Trump and Carson continue to lead the GOP polls, people are going to talk about them.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:30:58pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

That idiot Scott Walker was going on and on about how Obama’s America isn’t like the one he grew up when it comes to cop safety. Well someone pulled up the statistics of cops killed in the Reagan years when Scotty came of age and nearly twice as much cops were killed despite a smaller population. POTUS is right, every cop being killed is a tragedy but safety of cops isn’t a big problem. Of course, you want everyone who kills a cop to be prosecuted and they are and in fact people who kill cops are far more likely to be sentenced to death. Cops who kill unarmed people are seldom even indicated let alone convicted.

Scott Walker? I think I remember somebody by that name…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:31:00pm

Watch wingnut head explode now==>

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Khal Wimpo  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:31:14pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, your unhinged Chuck C. Johnson moment of the day:

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What the serious FUCK?! Raping is #1 on his list of things to do in D.C.?

Yeah, I know that in his dimwit mind this is what passes for a joke, but man, there is such a thing as a Freudian slip, where you in a passing moment, inadertently reveal your true inner nature.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:31:53pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

There’s not going to be a Rubio-Cruz ticket. And as long as Trump and Carson continue to lead the GOP polls, people are going to talk about them.

Neither T nor C are going to get the nomination, and talking about them just makes it worse.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:32:02pm

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Please stop talking about Trump or Carson as if they are about to get the nomination. They simply represent the very vocal preferences of a handful of GOP core primary voters.

It is all smoke and mirrors to make the eventual Rubio/Cruz ticket seem sane and qualified.

Rubio/Cruz? Rubio I might see, the GOP’s desperate enough that putting him on the ticket would seem reasonable. But if he does end up riding the top of the ticket, then the VP will be a white guy. No way in hell that the base will accept two minority candidates on the ticket.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:32:18pm

re: #185 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Scott Walker? I think I remember somebody by that name…

///

I am honestly surprised how poorly he did. I really thought the union busting would really sell. I did see him in the news again, he’s planning on signing a law that limits investigations of governors or something like that. I mean it’s not like he’s not rumored to be crooked or anything like that, //

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retired cynic  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:33:30pm

re: #185 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Scott Walker? I think I remember somebody by that name…

///

You’d remember if you lived in the next state down, which had just elected a Scott-Walker-wannabee, and you were watching what both of them are doing to previously decent states.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:33:38pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

I am honestly surprised how poorly he did. I really thought the union busting would really sell. I did see him in the news again, he’s planning on signing a law that limits investigations of governors or something like that. I mean it’s not like he’s not rumored to be crooked or anything like that, //

Walker had the poor fortune of leaving the bubble of rarified air that the Kochs have constructed over the Koch Industries subsidy that used to be the state of Wisconsin.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:33:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:33:45pm

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Neither T nor C are going to get the nomination, and talking about them just makes it worse.

You may well be right but people are going to talk about the guys leading the polls. Listen, I think you’re likely right that it will be someone like Rubio but at the same time, Trump has been at the top since the summer and we’re a month into the fall now. It’s going to be talked about. What makes it worse IMO is shrugging it off. There’s definitely a big part of the GOP base that wants candidates like these.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:33:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:34:43pm

re: #193 Kragar

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They do know that Jews don’t eat pork either right and there are a lot more Jews in this country. Go ahead guys, eat pork, I’m going to continue to do so too but I know it’s not the most healthiest thing. It’s not an Islamic conspiracy you fucking morons.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:02pm

re: #193 Kragar

Let them know that Muslims are against cancer, too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:25pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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How about I decide when I want to have kids or not, Mr. Carney?

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:32pm

re: #193 Kragar

That’s just not kosher in any book.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:39pm

re: #197 jaunte

Let them know that Muslims are against cancer, too.

Muslims generally favor breathing too. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:40pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

You may well be right but people are going to talk about the guys leading the polls. Listen, I think you’re likely right that it will be someone like Rubio but at the same time, Trump has been at the top since the summer and we’re a month into the fall now. It’s going to be talked about. What makes it worse IMO is shrugging it off. There’s definitely a big part of the GOP base that wants candidates like these.

The GOP base wants them, but the GOP establishment knows what candidates like that will do to the party over the long term if they get nominated. Don’t worry, ways will be found to derail them before they get too many delegates (if any)

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:40pm

So, how long before “I eat bacon because, if I don’t, the terrorists win”?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:35:55pm

And Muslims definitely do drink dihydrogen monoxide too.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:36:06pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:36:41pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

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Somebody needs to tell Chucky that “Baaa” means “Nooo.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:36:45pm

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP base wants them, but the GOP establishment knows what candidates like that will do to the party over the long term if they get nominated. Don’t worry, ways will be found to derail them before they get too many delegates (if any)

I know but you can’t expect people not to discuss it. I am sorry, I understand where you’re coming from but these guys have definitely awoken a part of the base up that was not there in 2012 and 2008.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:36:47pm

Dana will be SEXY UNBORN FETUS BABBY WITH A GUN!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:37:34pm

re: #193 Kragar

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Yunno, young children are fascinated, to the point of obsession with orifices and what we put in them and what comes out of them.

These tweets remind us that this infantile obsession has not passed with these fucking Islamophobic wingnuts…

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:37:35pm

re: #193 Kragar

The group said red meat, including beef, pork and lamb, probably causes cancer, too.

More like, infiltrated by vegetarians. /

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:37:45pm

Thanks Obama!

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:38:25pm

The study identifies bacon and processed meats as raising risks. Okay. Not all pork is treated as a processed meat.

The study reflects some common sense.

Portion control. Regularly consuming large portions of certain kinds of foods raise risks of disease. (DUH!)

How best to reduce your risks? Consume smaller portions, or limit intake. It doesn’t say that you can’t eat bacon or grilled ribeye steaks, but if you have ‘em - do so in moderation.

Toxicity is in the dose as they say.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:38:33pm

re: #209 Nyet

More like, infiltrated by vegetarians. /

VEGAN ISLAMISTS! But yeah they missed the part on beef and lamb too. And lamb is definitely consumed more in the Islamic world than it is here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:38:51pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I know but you can’t expect people not to discuss it. I am sorry, I understand where you’re coming from but these guys have definitely awoken a part of the base up that was not there in 2012 and 2008.

It was there, it was just kept under control. But now they are in control of the party, and the establishment is in damage control mode.

They will regain it, though, too much money, power and influence is at stake.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:39:03pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:39:43pm

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP base wants them, but the GOP establishment knows what candidates like that will do to the party over the long term if they get nominated. Don’t worry, ways will be found to derail them before they get too many delegates (if any)

May not need to work all that hard at all:

Seventy percent of respondents who selected a candidate to support in the survey also said that it’s still too early in the race to say for sure that their selection is the person they will ultimately back. Only 28 percent of respondents said that they had conclusively settled on one candidate.

The poll showed that more than half of Republican primary voters are paying “a lot” of attention to the race.

Carson may be pulling ahead of Trump in the latest CBS/NYT poll, but a good portion of both candidates’ supporters remain unsure of their decision. Eighty percent of respondents who backed Carson in the poll stated that it was too early in the race to know for sure if they would eventually vote for him. Trump supporters were a bit more firm in their decision, with 55 percent saying they have made up their minds on the reality TV star.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:39:53pm

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It was there, it was just kept under control. But now they are in control of the party, and the establishment is in damage control mode.

They will regain it, though, too much money, power and influence is at stake.

We will see what happens. I think ultimately the establishment will win but there will b an upstart that will cause some disruption at the convention.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:39:54pm

re: #211 lawhawk

Not limited to processed meat.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:40:29pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

She’s just teasing the boys. There is a very warm, very special place in hell for women like her. Anti feminists who would not even be allowed to own a gun or a house or even drive, in this country, yes! this one, let alone vote, were it not for women fighting like hell for those things. Hate causes brain damage, she’s one of many examples.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:40:39pm

Wait.

Vegatarians -> Hitler -> Mufti -> MOZLEMS!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:41:15pm

I have to admit. I do enjoy bacon but I find the bacon craze creepy. Okay, it’s good. I like it too but I know it’s unhealthy and I shouldn’t eat all the time if I don’t want heart problems later in life. Eat it all you want but there are risks too and FFS don’t act like it’s an Islamic conspiracy to point that out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:41:21pm

re: #211 lawhawk

The study identifies bacon and processed meats as raising risks. Okay. Not all pork is treated as a processed meat.

The study reflects some common sense.

Portion control. Regularly consuming large portions of certain kinds of foods raise risks of disease. (DUH!)

How best to reduce your risks? Consume smaller portions, or limit intake. It doesn’t say that you can’t eat bacon or grilled ribeye steaks, but if you have ‘em - do so in moderation.

Toxicity is in the dose as they say.

So, don’t eat two packs of bacon a day?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:41:43pm

re: #214 Kragar

“Salt is fine. Only politically correct liberal secular progressives trying to kill me want to ban it.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:42:07pm

re: #215 Targetpractice

Thank you for supporting my thesis that other than recognizing that it is speaks volume about the GOP that candidates like T & C are taken at all seriously, there is little point in discussing them or speculating what their candidacy might be like…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:42:59pm

Ho long till they find that second hand ham causes cancer?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:43:12pm

To encourage retirees to continue working, [jeb] would reduce benefits to those who want to retire early and increase benefits to those who work past their retirement age.

stop dreaming and keep yer head down, employee

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:43:27pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

I have to admit. I do enjoy bacon but I find the bacon craze creepy. Okay, it’s good. I like it too but I know it’s unhealthy and I shouldn’t eat all the time if I don’t want heart problems later in life. Eat it all you want but there are risks too and FFS don’t act like it’s an Islamic conspiracy to point that out.

Bacon is not food, it is a source of amusement and entertainment.

Please learn to look on it that way and deal with it accordingly.

Or to use an analogy from politics, bacon is to food what Trump and Carson are to presidential candidates.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:43:31pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Ho long till they find that second hand ham causes cancer?

I don’t want to know. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:43:55pm

Wingnut heads exploding over this==>

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:44:05pm

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Thank you for supporting my thesis that other than recognizing that it is speaks volume about the GOP that candidates like T & C are taken at all seriously, there is little point in discussing them or speculating what their candidacy might be like…

Really, the biggest damage done by Carson and Trump is not that they may be the nominees, it’s how far they’re dragging the other candidates to the right, which will (as it has in the past two elections) hurt them when they try the inevitable swing to the center next fall.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:44:13pm

I’ll smoke 4 packs of cigarettes a day, that’ll show those liberal do gooders! Really if your whole life is about pissing off another ideology, then you’re doing life all wrong. Go ahead, eat bacon, hell enjoy bacon, I love it on my burgers and I like it a bit but I know also if I want to live a healthy life, I don’t need it daily. I’d love to eat my favorite foods every day but I know I’d also get fat and have a ton of health problems if I did too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:44:41pm

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Bacon is not food, it is a source of amusement and entertainment.

Please learn to look on it that way and deal with it accordingly.

Or to use an analogy from politics, bacon is to food what Trump and Carson are to presidential candidates.

Bacon is fine, its followers I can do without.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:44:59pm

re: #225 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

To encourage retirees to continue working, [jeb] would reduce benefits to those who want to retire early and increase benefits to those who work past their retirement age.

stop dreaming and keep yer head down, employee

And if you’re “let go” because your age is viewed as detrimental to your employers, there’s always plenty of jobs as greeters at Wal-Mart.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:45:49pm

I’m curious, Lizards - how many of you have something like Bacon and Eggs for breakfast on anything even remotely approaching a daily basis?

it seems like it’s thought of as Standard American Breakfast, but for me it’s always been more like a treat for lazy Sunday mornings.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:46:37pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

And if you’re “let go” because your age is viewed as detrimental to your employers, there’s always plenty of jobs as greeters at Wal-Mart.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:47:08pm

I’ve eaten bacon prolly less than a dozen times in my life.

Salo though…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:47:22pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m curious, Lizards - how many of you have something like Bacon and Eggs for breakfast on anything even remotely approaching a daily basis?

it seems like it’s thought of as Standard American Breakfast, but for me it’s always been more like a treat for lazy Sunday mornings.

I usually have my special breakfasts on weekends since there’s more time. But even then, i don’t need too much bacon. To be honest with you, I’d rather have some flavorful granola with fruit and some milk. I do like bacon and eggs but I don’t need it daily or even weekly.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:47:28pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

I have it more as a dinner when we run out of everything else.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:47:30pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Blasphemer! Lol. I make brown sugar bacon, which is just so freaking awesome it should be on a postage stamp or something, heh. Seriously though, I use it crumbled in things, like omelets, on chicken salad sandwiches or on salads, on top of baked mac and cheese or au gratin potatoes, stuff like that. I’m not giving it up either. Nope. I figure my walks down a busy road every morning means I inhale a whole bunch of acky stuff, a little bacon can’t do more than that.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:47:56pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Right, the Kim Davises of the world can break the law and be right wing heroes. Break the law and be a minority, you’re a thug who deserves brutality.

Be a minority and you definitely do NOT need to break a law to get brutalized.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:48:14pm

I don’t eat bacon but I do eat a lot of pie.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:48:41pm

re: #238 A Mom Anon

Blasphemer! Lol. I make brown sugar bacon, which is just so freaking awesome it should be on a postage stamp or something, heh. Seriously though, I use it crumbled in things, like omelets, on chicken salad sandwiches or on salads, on top of baked mac and cheese or au gratin potatoes, stuff like that. I’m not giving it up either. Nope. I figure my walks down a busy road every morning means I inhale a whole bunch of acky stuff, a little bacon can’t do more than that.

That does sound good. I just don’t get the worship.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:48:53pm
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:49:04pm

re: #238 A Mom Anon

wired.com

But smoking increases your relative risk of lung cancer by 2,500 percent; eating two slices of bacon a day increases your relative risk for colorectal cancer by 18 percent. Given the frequency of colorectal cancer, that means your risk of getting colorectal cancer over your life goes from about 5 percent to 6 percent and, well, YBMMV. (Your bacon mileage may vary.)

Meh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:49:23pm

re: #239 Jebediah, RBG

Be a minority and you definitely do NOT need to break a law to get brutalized.

Break a law? Hell all you have to do is wave at a cop, or not wave at a cop. Or look at him. Or don’t look at him.

Or breathe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:51:00pm

re: #243 Nyet

wired.com

Meh.

Yep. If it were as bad as cigarettes, we’d have known it by now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:51:26pm

re: #235 Nyet

I’ve eaten bacon prolly less than a dozen times in my life.

Salo though…

Salo me!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:51:30pm

Yeah cigarettes are much worse and aren’t even tasty. At least bacon and booze tastes good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:51:48pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t eat bacon but I do eat a lot of pie.

bacon pie = quiche

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:53:07pm

re: #243 Nyet

wired.com

Meh.

Hmm…eat the BLT…or avoid colon cancer decades from now…well, I am hungry right now…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:53:35pm

bwahahaaa

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:54:06pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahaaa

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I am surprised he didn’t ask for change.

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:54:18pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahaaa

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So Rand Paul’s been caught making up quotes more than once?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:54:25pm

Carson has edged ahead of Donald

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

bacon pie = quiche

few people know the etymology of the word “quiche”

it derives from the sound it makes when you sit on one

FACT

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A Mom Anon  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:54:57pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I quit 10 yrs ago. I figure that has done more for my overall health, along with walking than anything else I could be doing. Now if I could just get my anxiety/panic disorder under wraps, I might live for another 40-50 yrs or so. That kind of stress is worse for you than any sort of bacon/meat stuff is.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:54:58pm

re: #252 gwangung

So Rand Paul’s been caught making up quotes more than once?

It seems like a common theme with him.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:55:03pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Talked to Rand Paul about @BuzzFeedAndrew’s fact-checking of founders quotes; Paul called him an idiot and a partisan hack

Maybe, but what about the quotes?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:56:26pm

re: #254 A Mom Anon

I quit 10 yrs ago. I figure that has done more for my overall health, along with walking than anything else I could be doing. Now if I could just get my anxiety/panic disorder under wraps, I might live for another 40-50 yrs or so. That kind of stress is worse for you than any sort of bacon/meat stuff is.

It’s one vice I am glad I never have had. I briefly was a smoker but I gave it up. I stupidly thought maybe it would control my appetite urges. I ended up losing the weight a couple years later anyhow without smoking a single cigarette. I try now to have a balanced diet.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:57:10pm

An official Chinese video about the 13th 5-year-plan.

What’s China gonna do? Better check this music video

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:57:24pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahaaa

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BuzzFeedAndrew has been busy

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:57:58pm

No. No. No.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:08pm

re: #259 b.d.

BuzzFeedAndrew has been busy

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That made me grin.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:23pm

re: #260 Jenner7

No. No. No.

what what what what what??

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:30pm
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jaunte  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:31pm

re: #259 b.d.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:33pm

re: #260 Jenner7

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No. No. No.

Crap. When will we ever learn.

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:35pm

re: #256 Nyet

Maybe, but what about the quotes?

[rand] TO QUOTE GEORGE WASHINGTON, GO F*CK YOURSELF!! [/rand]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:42pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

It’s one vice I am glad I never have had. I briefly was a smoker but I gave it up. I stupidly thought maybe it would control my appetite urges. I ended up losing the weight a couple years later anyhow without smoking a single cigarette. I try now to have a balanced diet.

I am Mr casual smoker, one vice that I cansomehow take or leave. I smoke when I am with smokers on occasion to be sociable but do not keep it at home or use it regularly.

I think it is because my disgust and aversion towards ashtrays, butts and the smell of stale smoke overrides any addictive pull the stuff has on me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:58:54pm

re: #252 gwangung

So Rand Paul’s been caught making up quotes more than once?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 12:59:51pm

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am Mr casual smoker, one vice that I cansomehow take or leave. I smoke when I am with smokers on occasion to be sociable but do not keep it at home or use it regularly.

I think it is because my disgust and aversion towards ashtrays, butts and the smell of stale smoke overrides any addictive pull the stuff has on me.

Yeah I think the smell has always turned me off. My dad smoked pretty much my entire childhood. I could understand the drnking but never the tobacco.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:00:16pm

re: #260 Jenner7

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No. No. No.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:00:28pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:00:39pm

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think the smell has always turned me off. My dad smoked pretty much my entire childhood. I could understand the drnking but never the tobacco.

Even when I smoked, I never did it inside my own home.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:00:53pm

re: #260 Jenner7

WTF, Obama?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:02:22pm

So, after screaming for months that we need to take the fight to ISIS, no doubt the wingnuts will greet this knowledge with enthusiastic support and…why’s everybody laughing?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:02:34pm

re: #271 The Vicious Babushka

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Boom. So what do the so called pro police wingnuts say to that?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:03:41pm

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even when I smoked, I never did it inside my own home.

Yeah I don’t blame you. I sometimes social smoke when I drink but even that’s rare. I just don’t like the taste or the smell. I can do pot but tobacco just doesn’t do it for me. I don’t give smokers a hard time but it’s just not my vice of choice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:04:10pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

So, after screaming for months that we need to take the fight to ISIS, no doubt the wingnuts will great this knowledge with enthusiastic support and…why’s everybody laughing?

Yeah eagerly awaiting McCain and Graham’s reply on this haha.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:04:41pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:05:03pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Damn it. I need to go cry in a corner now. Fuck.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:05:17pm

I expect wingnuts to have the usual schizophrenic response: “It’s great that Obama is admitting he was wrong, but we shouldn’t be sending troops to fight over there!!”

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:05:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:06:38pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

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That just brings to mind the old quote attributed to Stalin- death of one is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic. 400,000 people. Just wow.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:07:41pm

Well, I got my laugh for the day. Apparently FR ended up on Google’s black list as a phishing site, or at least that’s what the Freepers are reporting.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:07:41pm

I vehemently disagree with this decision, but we wouldn’t be here if Bush hadn’t invaded in the first place. Fuck Bush and all the damage he has done.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:07:46pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

That just brings to mind the old quote attributed to Stalin- death of one is a tragedy, death of a million is a statistic. 400,000 people. Just wow.

Dana is working herself into a rage, cleaning and loading her entire collection.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:09:19pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

Dana is working herself into a rage, cleaning and loading her entire collection.

I am sure she is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:09:24pm

re: #284 Jenner7

I vehemently disagree with this decision, but we wouldn’t be here if Bush hadn’t invaded in the first place. Fuck Bush and all the damage he has done.

My thoughts, too. Colin Powell was right - you break it, you bought it. So why did we have to go and fucking break it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:09:54pm

re: #284 Jenner7

I vehemently disagree with this decision, but we wouldn’t be here if Bush hadn’t invaded in the first place. Fuck Bush and all the damage he has done.

Agree with this too. Of course, you point that out and you get STOP BLAMING BUSH but that’s the truth.

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iossarian  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:10:49pm

re: #284 Jenner7

I vehemently disagree with this decision, but we wouldn’t be here if Bush hadn’t invaded in the first place. Fuck Bush and all the damage he has done.

Eh. I’m 100% with you in the “fuck Bush” camp but the Middle East was always going to be a total fucking disaster at some point given a) our continued dependence on their oil and b) a much longer process of colonial meddling than can be pinned on the neo-cons.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:10:58pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

My thoughts, too. Colin Powell was right - you break it, you bought it. So why did we have to go and fucking break it?

Because Bush wanted to get Hussein no matter what the cost- lives, resources, global capital, geopolitics, etc. Bush is only going to look worse as time goes on. He’s not despite what his supporters claimed going to be a second Truman where we look back and say he was right.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:11:01pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Still sounds like policy is in flux:

Washington (CNN)—The U.S. is considering increasing its attacks on ISIS through more ground action and airstrikes, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday.

Carter told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the U.S. “won’t hold back” from supporting partners carrying out such attacks or from “conducting such missions directly, whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground.”

The White House, however, has yet to make a decision on the options for upping the campaign against ISIS, according to defense and administration sources. They said that further involvement on the ground was one of the possibilities being presented.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:11:39pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

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I’ve recently seen various gunfuckers pointing to the decline in the rates of gun violence - part of the overall decline in violent crime of all kinds over the last couple decades - as evidence that we don’t need to regulate guns.

My response? Then why do we need MORE guns?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:12:19pm

Ben has fantasies of hot, sweaty sexytimes with Lena, except in his fantasies she’s a dude

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:12:40pm

re: #291 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I hope Obama won’t repeat Bush’s mistake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:13:59pm

re: #295 Nyet

Star Wars 8 preview.
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Wow. My argument is now irrelevant.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:14:16pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve recently seen various gunfuckers pointing to the decline in the rates of gun violence - part of the overall decline in violent crime of all kinds over the last couple decades - as evidence that we don’t need to regulate guns.

My response? Then why do we need MORE guns?

The worrysome trend to me is while individual gun owners have decreased, the amount of guns per capita itself has increased. That is to say, more guns are in fewer hands. And it’s fostered by the paranoia that the NRA and GOA sell their members about how they the members need tons of guns to keep them safe from tyranny and “bad guys.” Is crime a problem in many places, sure but the biggest gun hoarding I see exists in pats o the country where crime is a factor. I said it yesterday but I think a lot of gun owners think people like me are idiots because we may not know everything there is to guns but my retort is we also know alot more about the destructiveness of guns than they do.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:14:51pm

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Ben has fantasies of hot, sweaty sexytimes with Lena, except in his fantasies she’s a dude

The Daily Wire?

Looks like some bottom-feeding wingnut welfare emission

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:15:41pm

aww

Seal Jumps On Guy’s Boat And Makes A Friend

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:15:55pm

Oh no armpit hair. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:16:38pm

Really why should I care that Lena Dunham admires Shakur when actual right wing politicians talk about second amendment solutions to those they disagree with? Lena’s not a policymaker.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:16:48pm

re: #298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Daily Wire?

Looks like some bottom-feeding wingnut welfare emission

That’s Ben’s little personal site, just in case Breitbart decides he’s too extreme for them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:17:10pm

re: #299 Nyet

aww

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Video

Probably getting away from the Orcas.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:17:11pm

re: #299 Nyet

tantan tan 1 day ago
Be careful.. that innocent-looking fella killed Bin Laden
Reply * 49

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:17:45pm

re: #299 Nyet

aww

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That man must smell like the seal’s momma. Kinda fishy, I’d guess.

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iossarian  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:17:50pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Oh no armpit hair. //

It’s kind of comforting to know that conservatives are wasting their time worrying about trivial shit like this. It presumably means they’re less effective at screwing things up than they would otherwise be.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:17:55pm

re: #299 Nyet

aww

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Video

What a lucky guy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:18:25pm

re: #306 iossarian

It’s kind of comforting to know that conservatives are wasting their time worrying about trivial shit like this. It presumably means they’re less effective at screwing things up than they would otherwise be.

That is true heh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:18:33pm

re: #306 iossarian

Yeah, it would be nice if that were true, wouldn’t it?

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:19:17pm

re: #299 Nyet

Marty Davis 3 days ago
That’s the Seal of Approval!
Reply * 92

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:20:05pm

Dr. Matt why did you retweet this==>

Click to Reveal
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:20:07pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve recently seen various gunfuckers pointing to the decline in the rates of gun violence - part of the overall decline in violent crime of all kinds over the last couple decades - as evidence that we don’t need to regulate guns.

My response? Then why do we need MORE guns?

Because, in their minds, the growth in the number of guns is what is driving down violent crime, despite there being absolutely no statistics to back this up.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:20:14pm

Well Fox had a segment earlier apparently worrying about women’s leggings.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:21:38pm

Speaking of processed pork:

Georgia Man, 39, Arrested Following Sausage Biscuit Rage Incident At Waffle House

Incensed that the price of sausage biscuits at Waffle House had increased by 50 cents, a Georgia man shattered the eatery’s door, according to cops who busted the diner Sunday morning.

Police say that Mitchell Feinberg, 39, became upset when, upon being presented his check, he discovered that the price of biscuits had been raised to $1.50.

Undoubtedly a false flag conducted by the Obama USDA in support of the Muslim Brotherhood’s War on Pork.

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:21:55pm

So it looks like Don Lemon made an ass of himself again.

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It's on his hat!  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:22:24pm

re: #315 b.d.

So it looks like Don Lemon made an ass of himself again.

Tuesday again already?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:22:24pm

re: #312 Targetpractice

Because, in their minds, the growth in the number of guns is what is driving down violent crime, despite there being absolutely no statistics to back this up.

To them, Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc is an argument, not a fallacy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:22:28pm

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of processed pork:

Georgia Man, 39, Arrested Following Sausage Biscuit Rage Incident At Waffle House

Undoubtedly a false flag posted by the Obama USDA in support of the Muslim Brotherhood’s War on Pork.

50 cents dude. The fine you’re going to get and probably a prohibition from Waffle House. It wasn’t worth it.

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EmmaAnne  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:22:43pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Yes, but it’s also a big detriment, because a large portion of the GOP voting base actually is racist. A lot of those people won’t be able to hold their noses and vote for an African American just for the optics.

I was in Los Angeles to witness the Bradley Effect. In the polls, Mayor Bradley was winning. But in the polling booth, enough people decided not to vote for a black guy that he lost. Given how racist the GOP is, I would predict that Carson will underperform the polls substantially.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:24:32pm

re: #317 Blind Frog Belly White

you’re giving them too much credit… like they’d really take the time to learn about some foreign law, what with all those not Merkin-English words in it

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:25:42pm

re: #319 EmmaAnne

I was in Los Angeles to witness the Bradley Effect. In the polls, Mayor Bradley was winning. But in the polling booth, enough people decided not to vote for a black guy that he lost. Given how racist the GOP is, I would predict that Carson will underperform the polls substantially.

I was out here for that. The polls indicated people were more likely not to vote for someone because they were Armenian than because they were black. Next thing you know George Deukmejian is governor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:26:36pm

re: #321 KGxvi

Good point. Basically it’s true if they want to believe it’s true.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:27:17pm

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of processed pork:

Georgia Man, 39, Arrested Following Sausage Biscuit Rage Incident At Waffle House

Undoubtedly a false flag conducted by the Obama USDA in support of the Muslim Brotherhood’s War on Pork.

WOW! I attempted to post the last part of that as a comment at Free Republic and got this:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:27:27pm

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

I was out here for that. The polls indicated people were more likely not to vote for someone because they were Armenian than because they were black. Next thing you know George Deukmejian is governor.

Was there a significant anti-Armenian prejudice in CA during that time? I know CA’s got a significant Armenian-American community, perhaps among the biggest in the nation but wasn’t aware that there would actually be polls about voting against them in this day and age.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:28:31pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Was there a significant anti-Armenian prejudice in CA during that time? I know CA’s got a significant Armenian-American community, perhaps among the biggest in the nation but wasn’t aware that there would actually be polls about voting against them in this day and age.

Just because people don’t like the Kardashians doesn’t mean they are anti-Armenian.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:29:15pm

re: #295 Nyet

I posted that downstairs. The article is hysterical to read, complaining about the lack of a branch on Earth was especially a good touch.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:29:18pm

re: #311 The Vicious Babushka

I have no idea what happened, but EI is one of the last sources I would trust.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:30:04pm

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

Just because people don’t like the Kardashians doesn’t mean they are anti-Armenian.

Ha I know but BFBW indicated that there was a poll that asked people if they were likely to vote against an Armenian. The Bradley campaign was long before Kim and them were common names. I am sure Robert, the father was known in legal circles but hardly a household name like his daughters are now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:30:09pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t blame you. I sometimes social smoke when I drink but even that’s rare. I just don’t like the taste or the smell. I can do pot but tobacco just doesn’t do it for me. I don’t give smokers a hard time but it’s just not my vice of choice.

But I am very impatient with smokers who think that the world is their ashtray/smoking lounge.

That attitude is pretty much eradicated from the USA but still to be found in Europe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:30:19pm

re: #328 Nyet

I have no idea what happened, but EI is one of the last sources I would trust.

It’s in the same category as Stormfront or PamelaGeller

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:30:28pm

re: #320 Nyet

wow

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Video

Surreal.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:30:43pm

Oh hells no

A South Carolina high school student who witnessed her classmate being physically abused by a school resource officer was arrested and held on $1,000 for filming the incident.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:31:06pm

re: #333 Kragar

Oh hells no

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You gotta be kidding me.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:31:47pm
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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:31:59pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

You gotta be kidding me.

Its South Carolina, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:32:25pm

re: #324 Shiplord Kirel

WOW! I attempted to post the last part of that as a comment at Free Republic and got this:

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I wandered over to FR, and though I had no problem accessing it, there’s a lot of talk there among the posters about it….quite a few threads.

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Jenner7  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:32:29pm

re: #333 Kragar

That’s fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:32:37pm

re: #335 Jenner7

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I can’t wait for the excuses for this. Man how awful. That poor family.

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:33:09pm

re: #335 Jenner7

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Car arrested for recording conflict…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:33:28pm

re: #336 Kragar

Its South Carolina, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Yeah true. I’ve seen in response to the filming of these police incidents that a lot of legislators from a certain party that claims to be for individual liberty pushing criminalizing filming the police.

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Tigger2  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:34:42pm

A funny piece about when the Republicans train derailed.

ELECTION 2016
Former White House Chief of Staff: Sarah Palin Marked the Moment the GOP Went Off the Rails

alternet.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:08pm

Feared for his life my ass. He executed that kid and he’ll be back on the streets. This is a real fucking problem.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:27pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Yeah true. I’ve seen in response to the filming of these police incidents that a lot of legislators from a certain party that claims to be for individual liberty pushing criminalizing filming the police.

“You witnessed and documented an arrest. You’re under arrest.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:39pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s okay. The rural people aren’t bothered by this so no need to do gun regulations. //

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:40pm

Walgreens Boots Alliance is near a deal to buy Rite Aid

i say old man i’d rather buy my whatevers at a place called Boots The Chemist wouldnt you what? what?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:35:53pm

re: #345 Kragar

“You witnessed and documented an arrest. You’re under arrest.”

Yeah all kinds of fucked up eh?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:37:47pm

Ok, heading out for pizza. Which topping should I choose: cancer kibble or cancer disks?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:37:57pm

re: #335 Jenner7

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Well, now we have a case the next time some fuckhead wingnut goes “Why don’t you libruls pay attention when a white kid is shot!”

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:38:28pm

re: #333 Kragar

The key graf is the explanation for the arrest - she was arrested for disrupting school.

Ummm, the disruption was by the officer engaging in egregious conduct in dealing with a fellow student. Videotaping an event like this isn’t disruptive, except to the status quo of power/authority/treatment of students.

Oh wait. Now it makes perfect sense.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:38:49pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Well, now we have a case the next time some fuckhead wingnut goes “Why don’t you libruls pay attention when a white kid is shot!”

Yep that’s what they’ll do even though we re talking about it right now. Man that poor kid.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:38:54pm

re: #349 Barefoot Grin

Ok, heading out for pizza. Which topping should I choose: cancer kibble or cancer disks?

Anything but pineapple.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:39:00pm

Italian cleaners bin ‘rubbish’ modern art

Meh.

Who is to say that the cleaners who cleaned up this alleged art are not artists who made an artistic statement of their own?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:40:03pm

re: #351 lawhawk

The key graf is the explanation for the arrest - she was arrested for disrupting school.

Ummm, the disruption was by the officer engaging in egregious conduct in dealing with a fellow student. Videotaping an event like this isn’t disruptive, except to the status quo of power/authority/treatment of students.

Oh wait. Now it makes perfect sense.

The shorter explanation is she caught the cop on tape doing something he shouldn’t have, the charge is just a formality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:40:14pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:40:30pm

re: #354 Nyet

Italian cleaners bin ‘rubbish’ modern art

Meh.

Who is to say that the cleaners who cleaned up this alleged art are not artists who made an artistic statement of their own?

One can assume that these cleaners were temp staff sent by an outsourced agency…

you get what you pay for

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:40:48pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

That’s Ben’s little personal site, just in case Breitbart decides he’s too extreme for them.

well that would explain it

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:41:33pm

It is getting hard to respect the police reading stories like that.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:42:16pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:42:29pm

re: #354 Nyet

Italian cleaners bin ‘rubbish’ modern art

Meh.

Who is to say that the cleaners who cleaned up this alleged art are not artists who made an artistic statement of their own?

Ha! Wife and I were at a museum a couple of weeks ago and found ourselves commenting on a particularly pretentious piece. Then we found out that it was a stack of collapsible/portable stools for patrons who can’t stand for long periods.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:42:44pm

“You’re under arrest.”

“What for?”

“Disturbing the peace.”

“That girl getting tossed around was pretty disturbing.”

“You want me to add ‘resisting arrest’ to the charge as well?”

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:43:55pm

re: #349 Barefoot Grin

Ok, heading out for pizza. Which topping should I choose: cancer kibble or cancer disks?

re: #353 lawhawk

Anything but pineapple.

Canadian Bacon, Pineapple and Jalapeno
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:44:03pm

Paul Ryan pledges no Immigration reform while Obama is in office.

So much for “no horse trading” and being his “own man”

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:45:10pm

Mmmm… cancer. *drool*

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:45:22pm

re: #364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Paul Ryan pledges no Immigration reform while Obama is in office.

So much for “no horse trading” and being his “own man”

And there goes the only thing reasonable about Lyin Ryan. By the way Paul, your hero was an immigrant. You know the crazy lady whose trash you make your staffers read when they could be reading something constructive?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:45:27pm

And these are the same people on #tcot who are always all HURR HURR ISLAM IS TEH REAL WARS ON WOMENS!!!!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:45:52pm

re: #364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Paul Ryan pledges no Immigration reform while Obama is in office.

So much for “no horse trading” and being his “own man”

WHY WONT OBAMA COMPROMISE WORK WITH REPUBLICANS?????

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:46:19pm

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

And these are the same people on #tcot who are always all HURR HURR ISLAM IS TEH REAL WARS ON WOMENS!!!!!!

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I think maybe I’d rather treat her as an equal and with respect but thanks asshole who obviously is in a loveless marriage and who doesn’t know anything about marriage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:46:33pm

re: #368 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WHY WONT OBAMA COMPROMISE WORK WITH REPUBLICANS?????

BOTH SIDES, BOTH SIDE!~

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:47:09pm

re: #363 FormerDirtDart

Canadian Bacon, Pineapple and Jalapeno

i declare it to be a modren art installation worth 10 thousand euros

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:47:59pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

BOTH SIDES, BOTH SIDE!~

“Well yeah, the Republicans absolutely refuse to consider any plan other than deporting every illegal immigrant and building a wall, but the Democrats aren’t willing to meet them halfway!”

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:48:39pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Well, now we have a case the next time some fuckhead wingnut goes “Why don’t you libruls pay attention when a white kid is shot!”

We have lots of cases. I note a number of white victims are cited by BLM activists.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:49:07pm

For any Lizards in the Portland, OR Metro area who may be contemplating heading out for pizza, here’s a review of a new place, Red Sauce Pizza:

It’s a small space, and they’re geared at servicing the neighborhood with some much-needed (sorry but Rocket was awful) quality to-go pies as much if not more so than for eat-in diners (though they’ll be serving beer soon).

But HOLY SHIT. It is so good. It completely exceeded expectations. Between three of us, my party sampled three types of pie: the vegetarian Fernandez (Mama Lil’s peppers, spinach, red onion, and goat cheese), the Jack Dekovich (with pepperoni and housemade chorizo), and the Parcel (salami and arugula) plus a large, lemony, and excellent Caesar salad that mixed the standard romaine with some much-welcome tender kale. We happily burned our mouths, impatient to try each excellent variety as it arrived. My husband downright blubbered to the server about how if anyone told him he’d be living down the street from pizza of this quality in Portland, Oregon after moving back here from NYC a decade ago, he’d never have believed it, etc etc.

blogtown.portlandmercury.com

And here’s their website - they’re located on NE 42nd Avenue.

redsaucepizza.com

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:50:16pm

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

Umm, the Biblical attitudes are totally patriarchal, but I don’t remember anything about fear and dread. And at least with NT it’s the opposite: Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. Col. 3:19

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Charles Johnson  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:50:43pm

So Gawker’s lawyers got an extension until Nov. 12th to file their answer to Chuck Johnson’s latest bullshit. They may be trying to run out the clock on the statute of limitations so that if Chuck’s suit is dismissed he won’t be able to file again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:51:05pm

re: #373 gwangung

We have lots of cases. I note a number of white victims are cited by BLM activists.

Right. The BLM movement has been pretty critical of all police misconduct regardless of the victims’ races.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:51:47pm

re: #371 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i declare it to be a modren art installation worth 10 thousand euros

OK, but do you want to eat it, or throw it out?

re: #354 Nyet

Italian cleaners bin ‘rubbish’ modern art

Meh.

Who is to say that the cleaners who cleaned up this alleged art are not artists who made an artistic statement of their own?

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WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:51:54pm

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

My thoughts, too. Colin Powell was right - you break it, you bought it. So why did we have to go and fucking break it?

Power and politics - over anything country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:52:00pm

re: #375 Nyet

Umm, the Biblical attitudes are totally patriarchal, but I don’t remember anything about fear and dread. And at least with NT it’s the opposite: Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. Col. 3:19

Pick and choose whatever fits your views, that is the wonders of a revealed religion.

And that is why our Forefathers had the sense not to base any system of government on it…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:52:00pm

re: #374 Dr Lizardo

For any Lizards in the Portland, OR Metro area who may be contemplating heading out for pizza, here’s a review of a new place, Red Sauce Pizza:

blogtown.portlandmercury.com

I’ll have a Jack Dekovitch to go………………….3000 miles.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:53:13pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

I’ll have a Jack Dekovitch to go………………….3000 miles.

Yeah………wonder if they do international deliveries.

Looks good.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:54:48pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Well, now we have a case the next time some fuckhead wingnut goes “Why don’t you libruls pay attention when a white kid is shot!”

There are lots of cases. That blacks suffer disproportionately doesn’t make the silly memes that being white shields you from the out-of-control police any more true.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:56:18pm

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Yeah………wonder if they do international deliveries.

Looks good.

Yeah they all do. Now I’m hungry for pizza though dinner tonight will be my from my favorite Tex-Mex spot so no complaints.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:57:24pm

re: #383 Nyet

There are lots of cases. That blacks suffer disproportionately doesn’t make the silly memes that being white shields you from the out-of-control police any more true.

I’m careful to bring up that the problem isn’t mere racism but out of control police in general. That’s not to say of course racism isn’t a big part of the overall problem.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:58:29pm

So busy at work. I’m hitting burnout for the week at 2pm on Tuesday. It’s Tuesday right?

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:58:45pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

Gawker lawyer schedule:

From Oct 27-Nov 4. Watch World Series. Deal with hangover on Nov 5. Go to WS parade on Nov 6. Enjoy the weekend Nov 6-8. Get cracking on reply on Nov 9. Put finishing touches and bow SWAK on Nov 11. Double check spacing/font/headers for complying with filing requirements. Submit and sit back and watch the gloriousness.

/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 1:58:58pm

re: #386 Stanley Sea Toujours

So busy at work. I’m hitting burnout for the week at 2pm on Tuesday. It’s Tuesday right?

Yes. Just three more days until Friday.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:01:16pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Yes. Just three more days until Friday.

Unfortunately too much to do in that time frame.

I’ll survive! Waiting for my 20 day trip back east over the holidays!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:01:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:01:44pm

re: #389 Stanley Sea Toujours

Unfortunately too much to do in that time frame.

I’ll survive! Waiting for my 20 day trip back east over the holidays!

Nice. It will be here before you know it.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:02:13pm

Goodnight, Lizards.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:02:42pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, he’s worried about the Obama terminators risng up against him. //

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:03:23pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump just doesn’t like the thought of a computer smarter than him.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:05:06pm

re: #385 HappyWarrior

I’m careful to bring up that the problem isn’t mere racism but out of control police in general. That’s not to say of course racism isn’t a big part of the overall problem.

One can walk and chew gum.
If whites understand that the police conduct is problematic also where they are concerned, that will help.

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:05:44pm

re: #395 Nyet

We can walk and chew gum.
If whites understand that the police conduct is problematic also where they are concerned, that will help.

Well, I know YOU can….

Some folks, though…..

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:06:10pm

re: #395 Nyet

One can walk and chew gum.
If whites understand that the police conduct is problematic also where they are concerned, that will help.

Right.

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Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:06:30pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:06:46pm

Hey all, I am seriously behind the times here at LGF, so I have not read all the threads over the last couple days. Have you discussed Ohio’s Johnny Kasich calling Trump out and saying (paraphrased) “I am getting sick and tired of this crazy talk?”

I just heard about it. Let me know if it was discussed and in what thread today or overnight.

It sounds like Kasich has decided to go all out as there really is nothing to lose at this point. So, maybe tomorrows debate is going to be the big fight over Trump. It has got to happen sometime. Also, it sounds like Kasich also included Dr. Ben Crazy in his comments. Might as well build that bonfire there Johnny.

Get the popcorn ready!

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:07:01pm

re: #394 Targetpractice

Trump just doesn’t like the thought of a computer smarter than him.

If they could teach a computer to file Chapter 11 then why would anyone need Trump?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:07:32pm

re: #398 Kragar

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Until this generation of pundits dies, so sometime between now and the introduction of commercial fusion reactors.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:08:13pm

When a black cop can’t be indicted for killing an unarmed white teen in Alabama, you know that the issue is not exclusively about race.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:09:47pm

re: #399 ObserverArt

Hey all, I am seriously behind the times here at LGF, so I have not read all the threads over the last couple days. Have you discussed Ohio’s Johnny Kasich calling Trump out and saying (paraphrased) “I am getting sick and tired of this crazy talk?”

I just heard about it. Let me know if it was discussed and in what thread today or overnight.

It sounds like Kasich has decided to go all out as there really is nothing to lose at this point. So, maybe tomorrows debate is going to be the big fight over Trump. It has got to happen sometime. Also, it sounds like Kasich also included Dr. Ben Crazy in his comments. Might as well build that bonfire there Johnny.

Get the popcorn ready!

Hadn’t heard about that honestly. I think Kasich really wants to play the role of Jon Huntsman. Tomorow’s debate will be interesting though since people will be actually going for Carson for the first time.

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plansbandc  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:09:56pm

re: #398 Kragar

As long as the ratings are good, the hits are multiple, and the money keeps rolling in, forever.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:11:51pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

If the case gets thrown out for lack of personal and/or subject matter jurisdiction, Chuck may be able to refile in a proper venue. This round would likely serve to toll the statute of limitations. It would depend, mostly, on the venue in which he files (which the Court in this case will probably point out would have been the correct one). If the ruling is on the merits, then it doesn’t matter, a judgment will be entered against him and that will bar him from filing elsewhere.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:14:00pm

Just a fresh example of an out-of-control-cop mindset:

nycpba.org

PBA president Patrick J. Lynch said:

“It’s no surprise that someone who makes a living glorifying crime and violence is a cop-hater, too. The police officers that Quentin Tarantino calls “murderers” aren’t living in one of his depraved big screen fantasies — they’re risking and sometimes sacrificing their lives to protect communities from real crime and mayhem. New Yorkers need to send a message to this purveyor of degeneracy that he has no business coming to our city to peddle his slanderous “Cop Fiction.” It’s time for a boycott of Quentin Tarantino’s films.”

Where have I heard this before…

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:14:38pm

re: #404 plansbandc

As long as the ratings are good, the hits are multiple, and the money keeps rolling in, forever.

That’s really the answer here. The media is a business, and like any good business is exists to make money. Money can’t be made if you acknowledge that a significant portion of your viewers are out of their fucking gourds, so instead we get this joke of a situation where the media has to pretend that the GOP is a party with “serious” ideas and not an asylum where the patients are now running the show.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:16:02pm

re: #406 Nyet

Just a fresh example of an out-of-control-cop mindset:

Where have I heard this before…

This guy Lynch is such an asshole.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:16:20pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

yeah, I hadn’t heard it either. But good for him - Kaisch is probably the least terrible choice among the GOP (there I go, damning with faint praise). Someone needs to take the mantle of the “not RWNJ” - and that person, if they can consolidate support, can probably win the nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:17:13pm

re: #409 KGxvi

yeah, I hadn’t heard it either. But good for him - Kaisch is probably the least terrible choice among the GOP (there I go, damning with faint praise). Someone needs to take the mantle of the “not RWNJ” - and that person, if they can consolidate support, can probably win the nomination.

I’ll also give Kasich points and sincere points for talking about mental illness and actually funding it. There’s still a lot about the man that pisses me off but they need more guys like him not less.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:17:47pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:19:06pm

re: #408 HappyWarrior

This guy Lynch is such an asshole.

It’s part of the task. He has one job.

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Kryptik  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:20:08pm

I would have thought the video of the kid getting slammed and dragged around by the cop would be one of those universally reviled things.

The fact that all I’ve found is about a 50/50 split of who blames the cop and who blames the girl is enough to drain away whatever last bit of faith I have in humanity. God all, fuck this country. Fuck this country so fucking much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:20:55pm

re: #412 Decatur Deb

It’s part of the task. He has one job.

He appears to think that job is to make the police look as bad as humanly possible without actually being Nazi storm troopers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:21:19pm

re: #413 Kryptik

I would have thought the video of the kid getting slammed and dragged around by the cop would be one of those universally reviled things.

The fact that all I’ve found is about a 50/50 split of who blames the cop and who blames the girl is enough to drain away whatever last bit of faith I have in humanity. God all, fuck this country. Fuck this country so fucking much.

It’s already fucked.

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KGxvi  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:21:27pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

I remember him mostly from the cable news circuit in the late 90s, early aughts. Just looking at his On the Issues profile, most of the stuff is from his time in Congress and maybe it’s because it’s been 20 years, but not much of it has aged well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:22:07pm

So, if a neurosurgeon with zero government or business experience would be a good choice to run the most powerful country on earth, the next time you need surgery, why not hire a politician?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:22:09pm

re: #414 Blind Frog Belly White

He appears to think that job is to make the police look as bad as humanly possible without actually being Nazi storm troopers.

It is to protect the interests of his members. I didn’t say he was doing it well.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:22:45pm

The Kasich thing happened today at an Ohio rally. Just found this…

Los Angeles Times - Ahead of debate, John Kasich indicates his rivals are crazy

“Do you know how crazy this election is? Let me tell you something, I’ve about had it with these people,” he told supporters at an Ohio rally Tuesday, according to a transcript provided by NBC News.

Kasich, who is viewed as a moderate in the crowded GOP presidential field, noted that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson wants to end Medicaid and Medicare.

“You ever heard of anything so crazy as that, telling our, our people in this country who are seniors or about to be seniors that we’re gonna abolish Medicaid and Medicare?” Kasich said of Carson, who is leading in several recent polls in Iowa, the first nominating state of the 2016 election.

He then shifted his focus to Donald Trump, whose immigration proposal has galvanized his supporters but drawn scrutiny among immigrant-rights groups for, among other proposals, his plan to deport all of the 11 million or so people in the U.S. illegally.

“We got one guy who says we ought to take 10 or 11 million people and pick them up. … We’re gonna go into their homes, their apartments,” he said. “We’re gonna pick them up and we’re gonna take them to the border and scream at them to get out of our country. Well, that’s just crazy.”

Kasich has not been immune to controversial comments himself. While at a Southern California reception last month, while praising Latinos, he also talked about rewarding them but referred only to tipping hotel maids.

— CUT —

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:22:54pm

re: #414 Blind Frog Belly White

He appears to think that job is to make the police look as bad as humanly possible without actually being Nazi storm troopers.

So he’s like virtually every other police union president in the country. Seriously, when’s the last time you heard about one going “Yeah, we should really do something about our members acting like fucking assholes.”?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:23:53pm

re: #417 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if a neurosurgeon with zero government or business experience would be a good choice to run the most powerful country on earth, the next time you need surgery, why not hire a politician?

Paul Ryan for head of surgery at U-Wisconsin!

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:25:40pm

re: #418 Decatur Deb

“You had one job…”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:26:33pm

re: #418 Decatur Deb

It is to protect the interests of his members. I didn’t say he was doing it well.

I have a friend from college who apparently went on to become a cop (hard to imagine that. He was a big, pear-shaped, clumsy oaf of a guy. Smart, though.), and he posted a couple ‘Blue Lives Matter’ things on FB, then tried the ‘poor us!’ approach when I dinged him on it.

So I told him that if cops want respect they need to not only stop covering for bad cops and trying to blame the victims of police brutality, they needed to be proactive and very public about not tolerating that kind of person.

He stopped posting Blue Lives Matter stuff, and surprisingly, didn’t defriend me.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:26:43pm

re: #420 Targetpractice

So he’s like virtually every other police union president in the country. Seriously, when’s the last time you heard about one going “Yeah, we should really do something about our members acting like fucking assholes.”?

That’s not the job. There are plenty of people and institutions charged to do that. His function is very much like that of a lawyer in an adversarial legal conflict. He doesn’t get to do the prosecutor’s work.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:28:10pm

re: #424 Decatur Deb

That’s not the job. There are plenty of people and institutions charged to do that. His function is very much like that of a lawyer in an adversarial legal conflict. He doesn’t get to do the prosecutor’s work.

I understand that he has to stand up for his unions’ members but the attacking of anyone who is even remotely critical of police misconduct needs to stop.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:30:03pm

re: #406 Nyet

Just a fresh example of an out-of-control-cop mindset:

Where have I heard this before…

Lynch a mentally disturbed soul.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:30:15pm

re: #425 HappyWarrior

I understand that he has to stand up for his unions’ members but the attacking of anyone who is even remotely critical of police misconduct needs to stop.

It’s one tactic. If he overdoes it, the situation will blow up in his face and he or his replacement will try for better balance.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:30:15pm

Apparently I have Twitter clout far beyond what my number of followers would indicate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:31:36pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

It’s one tactic. If he overdoes it, the situation will blow up in his face and he or his replacement will try for better balance.

Well, I think he’s making an already tough situation worse by bashing critics. Defend your guys if you must but don’t call ME anti-police because I have a problem iwth police misconduct. Sounds simple enough.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:38:51pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Since the base has a problem even with natural intelligence, this is likely to play really well.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:39:29pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Unfortunately, I don’t. Not this time around. Look at to bozos that gained control of Congress!

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Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:39:35pm

You’ll have to pry the baby back rib from my cold, greasy hand.

433
wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:40:03pm

I just had a visit from an ad sales person I’ve known for 16 years, and haven’t bought an ad from in 15 years. She had a medical thing she wanted to share (after asking me how I am) about her rotator cuff. Boring. But this morning I had a guy telling me about the shrapnel wound he got on his face in the Korean war. That one was good. The ending: ‘I got some skin off my heinie sewed onto my face!’

434
Kragar  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:42:57pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:46:04pm

re: #413 Kryptik

I would have thought the video of the kid getting slammed and dragged around by the cop would be one of those universally reviled things.

The fact that all I’ve found is about a 50/50 split of who blames the cop and who blames the girl is enough to drain away whatever last bit of faith I have in humanity. God all, fuck this country. Fuck this country so fucking much.

I wonder what that ratio would be if the girl was White and the cop threw her around like that. Or, to really change the rate…a White girl and Black cop.

Colors matter you know. /

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Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:46:24pm

US troops in Syria with Putin’s goons there seems like a bad idea.

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Great White Snark  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:47:52pm

re: #413 Kryptik

Perception becomes reality. Till another reality slaps back. If one sees the video they see no reason to confront let alone assault the girl or arrest her. Then I see it reported she was asked to leave, at length and refused, the cop was there to remove her, physically if necessary. That does change things assuing that’s accurate. It was a terribly brutal approach, one that many police departments know well how to avoid. Rage monster had his way.

I just got an advance copy of a book done by a highly qualified guy about the Ferguson shooting. After a skim and a long chat with the author, the hard forensic science clues do not look good for Edit-Brown. the Michael Brown families side of the story. Or many of the early conclusions.

I’m reading it through, twice through as is my choice for reviewing content for the LGFReading list. Here is the back cover. Gotta say I feel some trepidation about the review.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:48:14pm

re: #436 Amory Blaine

So what happens if an unidentified aircraft “accidentally” bombs your troops there?

439
Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:50:12pm

re: #437 Great White Snark

The DOJ report was pretty conclusive, AFAIC.

440
Stanley Sea Toujours  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:51:47pm

re: #437 Great White Snark

Perception becomes reality. Till another reality slaps back. If one sees the video they see no reason to confront let alone assault the girl or arrest her. Then I see it reported she was asked to leave, at length and refused, the cop was there to remove her, physically if necessary. That does change things assuing that’s accurate. It was a terribly brutal approach, one that many police departments know well how to avoid. Rage monster had his way.

I just got an advance copy of a book done by a highly qualified guy about the Ferguson shooting. After a skim and a long chat with the author, the hard forensic science clues do not look good for Brown.

Nothing looks good for Brown, cause he’s dead.

441
Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:51:54pm

re: #438 Nyet

I think we know the answer to that. Going into an election season no less.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:52:02pm

re: #438 Nyet

So what happens if an unidentified aircraft “accidentally” bombs your troops there?

We bomb the unidentified country.

/

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:53:59pm

re: #441 Amory Blaine

I think we know the answer to that. Going into an election season no less.

Because you can’t start a war with Russia, the sanctions are already there, and a lack of a response would cause an internal crisis. Which is what Putin craves.

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thedopefishlives  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:55:33pm

re: #442 ObserverArt

We bomb the unidentified country.

/

Ah, damn, I knew I should have stocked my independent banana republic with anti-aircraft weaponry.

/

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Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:56:34pm

We can’t start a war with Russia? Says who?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:56:41pm

re: #442 ObserverArt

We bomb the unidentified country.

/

It’s not like the unidentified country doesn’t have its own troops exposed. No need to bomb the actual country.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:57:16pm

re: #445 Amory Blaine

We can’t start a war with Russia? Says who?

Well, that would be the last war ever, so there’s that…

448
Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:59:02pm

re: #447 Nyet

That’s ok. Half the guys running for POTUS believes this is the end times.

449
thedopefishlives  Oct 27, 2015 • 2:59:19pm

re: #447 Nyet

Well, that would be the last war ever, so there’s that…

Hey. The saying goes, “Never start a land war in Asia.” Never said anything about an air war.///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:00:32pm

re: #447 Nyet

Well, that would be the last war ever, so there’s that…

Sure. We could call it “The War to end all wars”.

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Great White Snark  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:00:57pm

re: #440 Stanley Sea Toujours

Sadly true, but the family and other large societal issues remain.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:01:53pm
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:02:09pm

re: #450 Blind Frog Belly White

“And there will be such a War for Peace, that no stone will be left standing…”

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:05:43pm

re: #437 Great White Snark

Perception becomes reality. Till another reality slaps back. If one sees the video they see no reason to confront let alone assault the girl or arrest her. Then I see it reported she was asked to leave, at length and refused, the cop was there to remove her, physically if necessary. That does change things assuing that’s accurate. It was a terribly brutal approach, one that many police departments know well how to avoid. Rage monster had his way.

I just got an advance copy of a book done by a highly qualified guy about the Ferguson shooting. After a skim and a long chat with the author, the hard forensic science clues do not look good for Brown.

I’m reading it through, twice through as is my choice for reviewing content for the LGFReading list. Here is the back cover. Gotta say I feel some trepidation about the review.

[Embedded content]

A guy who has worked as an expert witness is an expert at making a case supposedly based on the facts, where ever he found what he wanted to use as facts. I don’t trust him.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:06:40pm

re: #443 Nyet

Could be another proxy war like Vietnam. Except both parties will have god on their side.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:22:51pm

When exactly was the October 30th deadline for Gawker to file responses set? I saw the document about a week ago but for some reason can’t find it now. I ask because I’m pretty sure it was set set during the last uncontested extension, which was one extension before Burns filed the 111 page monstrosity which was thrown out. By my count the bonus time was given to unfuck himself (which he didn’t even accomplish fully) ate up another week.

So part of Gawker’s extension may be strategy to run out the statute of limitations clock on any future refile. But they also genuinely have a claim to the time, especially since Burn’s crafted his entire response to the MTD based on his newly filed first amended complaint, instead of the original complaint like he was supposed to. For one thing they’ll want to address Burn’s contention that they are State Actors in a way that truly highlights for the Judge how sanctionably frivolous such an argument truly is. They will probably also address Burn’s conspicuous failure to mention 9th Circuit Rulings allowing California anti-SLAPP laws to apply in Federal Court. Gawker may urge the court to view this as a violation of professional ethics.

Point being their lawyers will spend the next two weeks crafting their responses to Burns’ motions in a way that uses errors like this to completely destroy Chuck. Their firm will also want to use the time to give every Associate in the building billable hours on the case, since the end is in sight and if the anti-SLAPP succeeds they will be able to recoup all costs. There’s literally no outcome possible now where Chuck comes out ahead.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 27, 2015 • 3:43:08pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

if the anti-SLAPP succeeds they will be able to recoup all costs.

From CCJ? They may be entitled to costs, but unless everyone at the firm bills at a rate of $0.000000001/hr Chucky won’t live long enough to pay what he will end up owing them.

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Jeff Selbst  Oct 27, 2015 • 9:15:14pm

It’s been great fun saying what my theory is.
And whose it is.

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taserian  Oct 28, 2015 • 8:46:56am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe the debate should be if either he made up the quotes, or he just plagiarized others who made up these quotes.


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