Sunday Night Jam: Leon Bridges, “Smooth Sailin’”

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Leon Bridges is getting a lot of well-deserved attention lately for his excellent album Coming Home, and here he is on Saturday Night Live with our Sunday night jam.

“Smooth Sailin” taken from Leon Bridges’ new album ‘Coming Home’ - available now.

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391 comments
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plansbandc  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:30:38pm

Ringside Seat: Haunted by history, a professor speaks against Trump

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Maddies Mom  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:33:57pm

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

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Whack-A-Mole  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:34:46pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

I’m so sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with you.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:35:59pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

Sorry that is always tough. She sounds like she was a great dog. I know you’ll always have great memories too though.

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Jenner7  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:37:12pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

So sorry Maddie’s Mom.

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Bear  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:38:26pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

So sad to read this.

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:38:48pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

So sorry to hear that. It’s always hard when a fur-kid crosses over to the rainbow bridge.

RBS

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CuriousLurker  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:40:05pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Oh man. {{{Maddies Mom}}}

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plansbandc  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:41:27pm

I’m so sorry Maddies Mom.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:42:38pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

One of the hardest moments we humans have to face, when our companions reach the end of their lives. I’ve been there too, more times than I like to remember. My sincere condolences.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:43:29pm

Okay, gonna go make a cuppa Joe and try to do my page before I get all emotional over MM’s dog and end up blubbering for the next half hour.

Later, lizards.

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missliberties  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:45:08pm

Leon Bridges! Yeah.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:48:06pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

When I read the LGF members honor their dogs and other pets like this all I can think of is the pets were lucky to have such caring and loving owners.

And I feel bad about it too. I have never had a dog and this is one of the reasons. I have very deep separation problems with things I love in this world. It is one of the reasons I am single. I hope that doesn’t make me a bad person. I see it as being a bit of a flawed romantic. I love everything and when it is gone it hurts. Friends, loves, I take it all real hard.

And now I am in that mood. I better change my mood. Later folks.

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Tigger2  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:48:22pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

Sorry to hear that. I have lost a few over the years it is very hard to deal with losing an unconditional love like that.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:48:26pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

We lost our first dog back in August. It took about 3 weeks before either one of us could talk about him without falling to pieces.

And, absolutely, he was a better human than some of the shitheels I have as family and alleged friends. Granted, much of that adulation was due to the fact that we were overlords of the Magic Food Can, but still…

I know exactly how you feel. Hang in there.

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ObserverArt  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:50:35pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Okay, gonna go make a cuppa Joe and try to do my page before I get all emotional over MM’s dog and end up blubbering for the next half hour.

Later, lizards.

Right there with you CL.

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ipsos  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:50:47pm

{{{{{{{maddiesmom}}}}}}}

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:51:13pm

{{{Maddie’s Mom}}}

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:51:50pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

*hugs*

Sorry to hear about that. I know losing fur babies is tough.

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Great White Snark  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:53:59pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

{{MADDIES MOM}}

Been there with our cats over the years, A canine lifetime with us, their whole lives. How sweet, even though we must endure their end and hurt some. So worth it though. They make it that way and then some..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:54:05pm

You know what I like about my dog? He’s loyal, he’s simple (he likes food, drink, sleep and play), he likes to be around me, he listens to me and he actually gets excited to see me every time I walk in the door after I’ve been gone awhile.

Think about what a world this would be if more humans were like that.

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PT Barnum  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:55:31pm

Border Collies are just the best. I had one named Stinker when I was really little. Your dog will always be with you in your heart. Virtual hugs are sent your way from all of the lizardim.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:55:47pm

Also re: Those idiots from the last thread wanting the Mosque to open their books…

..If I were the Imam I would say: “I will consider your proposal but only if you allow me to examine the books of YOUR Church so I can be certain you are not sending money to inappropriate causes.”

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PT Barnum  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:57:21pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Also re: Those idiots from the last thread wanting the Mosque to open their books…

..If I were the Imam I would say: “I will consider your proposal but only if you allow me to examine the books of YOUR Church so I can be certain you are not sending money to inappropriate causes.”

If your pastor lives in a mansion then you dont need to be tax exempt. Period.

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PT Barnum  Dec 13, 2015 • 6:58:41pm

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

You know what I like about my dog? He’s loyal, he’s simple (he likes food, drink, sleep and play), he likes to be around me, he listens to me and he actually gets excited to see me every time I walk in the door after I’ve been gone awhile.

Think about what a world this would be if more humans were like that.

Think of how this world would be if we all sniffed butts to say hello.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:00:53pm

They just become part of the family. I’ll always remember when my childhood dog died. I had gone to the dentist. When I got home, he was curled up by my Dad’s bedside dead. He probably went in his sleep as peaceful as could be. I loved that dog. I chased after him whenever he ran away. I worried about him when he nearly died a couple times from bloating. We grew old together. We got him when I was 9 and he died when I was 20. He died right before our move to the current house. I still miss him nearly 10 years later as much as I miss my grandparents who have left us in the same time span.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:00:58pm

re: #25 PT Barnum

Think of how this world would be if we all sniffed butts to say hello.

Does it have to be to say hello? Because I’m in a shitload of trouble otherwise.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:01:08pm

I guess you Tennessee lizards know about this’un:

Paywalled, but maybe you can get around it.

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PT Barnum  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:03:15pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I guess you Tennessee lizards know about this’un:

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Paywalled, but maybe you can get around it.

My surprised face 8|

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:03:51pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

{{{Maddies Mom}}}

I’ve had to let go two cats and a dog in my lifetime and all three times it was the hardest thing I had to do. The saving grace is that our critters in Lizardim have the best lives evah! and the joy brought vastly outweighs the grief later.

My condolences.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:04:45pm

Seen on Facebook, provenance unknown. So many factual errors in one image:

I have one. Are you really stupid, or do you just act that way?
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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:07:16pm

re: #31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seen on Facebook, provenance unknown. So many factual errors in one image:

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I missed where Obama came out in favor of abolishing the right to own a gun. And lol at this fuckwad acting like he cares about Gandhi and MLK. You know what, honestly I’m tired of these people thinking their guns triumphs other people’s rights to live their life in peace. Want to own a gun? Fine but you don’t need to bring it everywhere. I have free speech too but I don’t think that means I have the right to constantly shout down people. Here’s something too, Obama has a more pro second amendment record than Reagan did.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:07:24pm

re: #31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seen on Facebook, provenance unknown. So many factual errors in one image:

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That is one of the STUPIDEST MEMES OF ALL TIME

I see it on #tcot so much that it’s basically background noise.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:09:28pm

You know as awful as George III was, I’m bothered by likening him with those others. Obama of course goes without saying.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:09:54pm

I’d further add that I doubt the Founding Fathers he talks about were okay with black people having guns.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:11:52pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

I missed where Obama came out in favor of abolishing the right to own a gun.

My first thought as well. If memory serves, Obama’s only action regarding gun rights was to expand them, regarding the ability to carry them in a federal park.

So the next time you’re at Gettysburg Battlefield and you think one of the statues is coming to life to murder you, Barry Bamz has you covered.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:14:48pm

re: #36 Mattand

My first thought as well. If memory serves, Obama’s only action regarding gun rights was to expand them, regarding the ability to carry them in a state park.

So the next time you’re at Gettysburg Battlefield and you think one of the statues is coming to life to murder you, Barry Bamz has you covered.

Seriously, he hasn’t done a damn thing as president to actually limit people’s second amendment rights. I’m sorry but wanting background checks and the things he wants aren’t saying you shouldn’t own a gun. No one says that wanting drivers licenses means you’re against people owning cars. As I said, if you really want to piss them off point out that the sacred Reagan was more of a “gun grabber”(I loathe that term fwiw) than Obama is. I swear though these fucks do this with every single Democrat in office since they buy all the lies the gun lobby tells them. I’d ask this fuckwad straight up if the number of guns he owns has gone up or down since 2009, if it’s gone up, he’s full of shit about Obama and guns.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:15:01pm

re: #31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Seen on Facebook, provenance unknown. So many factual errors in one image:

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GANDHI was pro gun??? Hahahahaha, WTF???

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:15:28pm

It’s early here in TN, but I’m off to bed. Have to be at the shop about 4 am, we are planning on rolling out at 4:30. Going to take a quick shower and then call it a night.

Catch you all later

RBS

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:16:11pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

GANDHI was pro gun??? Hahahahaha, WTF???

Little known fact: Gahndi was the inspiration for Charles Bronson’s character in Death Wish.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:16:55pm

re: #40 Mattand

Little known fact: Gahndi was the inspiration for Charles Bronson’s character in Death Wish.

Other fact, MLK asked George Wallace if he was feeling lucky, punk. God that one I actually wish were true.

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Jay C  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:17:23pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

That is one of the STUPIDEST MEMES OF ALL TIME

I see it on #tcot so much that it’s basically background noise.

I didn’t even have to scan down to see the ISIL flag as President Obama’s “logo” to realize this was wingnut nonsense. SOOOO clever…!

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Condolences. So sad.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:18:45pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

That is one of the STUPIDEST MEMES OF ALL TIME

I see it on #tcot so much that it’s basically background noise.

A member of my more distant relations (part of the former in-law clan) posted it. I barely know her, and there’s no point in arguing with her about it in any event. Someone that ignorant of political history cannot be reasoned with over Facebook, and probably in real life, without providing a historical synopsis of each example and why it’s wrong.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:19:10pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

I’m so sorry for your loss.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:20:04pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Other fact, MLK asked George Wallace if he was feeling lucky, punk. God that one I actually wish were true.

Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Pulp Fiction was based on MLK Jr. True story.
/

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:20:41pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A member of my more distant relations (part of the former in-law clan) posted it. I barely know her, and there’s no point in arguing with her about it in any event. Someone that ignorant of political history cannot be reasoned with over Facebook, and probably in real life, without providing a historical synopsis of each example and why it’s wrong.

The thing about facebook is if you comment, you’re going to get that person’s entire circle down. One of my high school friends posts a ton of these gun memes. I respect the guy, former Marine and all that but but he just does not have any empathy or understanding why someone like me isn’t exactly rah rah about guns. And I imagine his friends would give me tons of shit if I called out the memes for how dishonest and stupid they are.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:21:01pm

re: #45 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Pulp Fiction was based on MLK Jr. True story.
/

I knew it! Did you know that Hans Landa was based of George III?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:21:54pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I knew it! Did you know that Hans Landa was based of George III?

Yeah, I read it on Twitter. It must be true, then.

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Maddies Mom  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:22:32pm

Thank you all, from the bottom of my (broken) heart. You lizards are some of the kindest people I’ve never met. Maddie would approve.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:22:50pm

@deray gets it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:23:08pm

But really seriously as awful as British imperialism was, I’m honestly bothered by likening George III(Obama too obvs) with those others. Besides, I think it’s more fair to blame the British Parliament than George himself. I mean I guess this is a history major’s nitpick but the image of George III as an absolute monarch in the vein of fellow European monarchs like Catherine the Great, Louis XVI, or Frederick the Great is dishonest.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:23:51pm

re: #45 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Pulp Fiction was based on MLK Jr. True story.
/

“I have a dream that you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!”

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allegro  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:24:36pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

I’m so sorry for your loss. A dog occupies a place that no human can really go, a place of utter comfort and trust all snuggled around your heart, keeping it safe during the most trying of times. The only thing worse than the pain of her loss would be the empty place of never having known her. {{{Maddies Mom}}}

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:24:45pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

@deray gets it.

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That’ll be the most of any president since Reagan- promoting Rehnquist to CJ, O’Connor, Scalia, and Kennedy. I’m going to be looking at who Hillary has advising her on judicial issues. This is extremely important stuff since even judicial centrists are preferable to anyone the Republican candidate will consider.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:24:47pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

The thing about facebook is if you comment, you’re going to get that person’s entire circle down. One of my high school friends posts a ton of these gun memes. I respect the guy, former Marine and all that but but he just does not have any empathy or understanding why someone like me isn’t exactly rah rah about guns. And I imagine his friends would give me tons of shit if I called out the memes for how dishonest and stupid they are.

Fer sure. I avoid politics on Facebook for that reason. FB is how I keep up with my kids and close relatives, plus all my friends and former students. I don’t want to poison the water by getting into political arguments. But I have posted negative stuff about Trump because he needs to be exposed as a shitheel that he is. So far, no one has jumped down my throat, which I take as a good sign. (Bad sign for The Donald, though.)

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Great White Snark  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:25:08pm

I had posted some shots from last weekend but one I held off. I was kinda struggling with the raw file for the look I wanted. Finally got it. This old street lamp had the afternoon sun placed right behind it. I got back about twenty feet and used my long lens.

Ethereal Sunlamp

I also found a close up crop of the glass texture kinda interesting.

I love old style glass, back lighting shows it so well.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:26:40pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

Had to put my dog down yesterday. My first dog, 12 yrs old. She was a 65 lb border collie mix and she was so beautiful. She was smart, sassy, charming as hell. I have so many great memories, it was just me and her for 12 years & we did everything together so we’re talking ‘gaping hole’ in my life. She was a star & and a very special girl for sure. She was a better ‘human’ than most people, especially these days. I feel her strong, strong, joyful spirit all around me still and I hope that lasts for a while.

I’m so sorry. I remember when the first dog I had suffered a spinal injury and he had to be put to sleep. I was six years old, cried for days…

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:26:42pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

@deray gets it.

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I think this is what’s most at stake with 2016. Particularly in light of Scalia revealing to the public that the eye slits in the white hood he wears when reviewing cases makes hard to read all those darn words.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:27:02pm

re: #56 Great White Snark

Well done! I like the contrast in the long shot. Makes the texture of the glass really snap out.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:27:16pm

re: #55 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Fer sure. I avoid politics on Facebook for that reason. FB is how I keep up with my kids and close relatives, plus all my friends and former students. I don’t want to poison the water by getting into political arguments. But I have posted negative stuff about Trump because he needs to be exposed as a shitheel that he is. So far, no one has jumped down my throat, which I take as a good sign. (Bad sign for The Donald, though.)

Yeah I mostly do it to stay in touch with family. I have a large extended family plus some family who live overseas. Plus the chatting system is nice. I’ve probably have posted maybe a few political posts the pats few years. I remember one was a condemnation of a lady on FNC saying that women who join the military should expect to get raped and the other was a sly affirmation of pleasure with the Supreme Court affirming same sex marriage being legal everywhere.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:29:04pm

Charles, I liked the Shaun Martin track you shared downstairs so much I bought the album on Amazon. Listening to it now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:29:22pm

re: #58 Mattand

I think this is what’s most at stake with 2016. Particularly in light of Scalia revealing to the public that the eye slits in the white hood he wears when reviewing cases makes hard to read all those darn words.

God man as someone with a paralegal certificate and some knowledge of the law, you have no idea how much it infuriates me to see that old bigot repeatedly cited as a “model justice” by Republican candidates. No man who says he would have opposed Brown, a decision we’re taught to celebrate as one to be proud of in school should be considered a model judge. Fat Tony’s a disgrace to the court. He may be intelligent but Scalia is up there with James McReynolds as one of the biggest assholes ever to serve on the bench because like McReynolds he repeatedly lets his own biases get in the way all the while he thumbs his nose at everyone else. I’m honestly astounded that Ruth Bader Ginsburg can be friends with such a man.

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Whack-A-Mole  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:30:36pm

re: #52 Mattand

I was just telling my buddy this afternoon during the game, the Capital One credit card commercials Samuel L does are always so disappointing for me. Every time I see one, I am just begging that he’s going to drop an F-bomb. Just once, I want to hear “What’s in your mother@&*#*&^ wallet?”

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:31:35pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:31:41pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Yeah I mostly do it to stay in touch with family. I have a large extended family plus some family who live overseas. Plus the chatting system is nice. I’ve probably have posted maybe a few political posts the pats few years. I remember one was a condemnation of a lady on FNC saying that women who join the military should expect to get raped and the other was a sly affirmation of pleasure with the Supreme Court affirming same sex marriage being legal everywhere.

My family know my attitudes toward immigration and immigrants. My e-mail forwarding friend also knows never to forward any anti-immigration nonsense too me, lest she catch my fiery wrath in reply.

I will do the same on Faacebook.

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Great White Snark  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:32:31pm

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks. Old architecture has texture, grain, detail. It’s nice to get a chance to show it well.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:34:21pm

What’s interesting though since we’re talking Scalia. Souter got more no votes in his confirmation than Scalia did. Now I don’t know what Scalia was like as a circuit judge or how he presented himself in his hearing but that’s interesting to me. Me? I am glad Senate Dems like Ted Kennedy and our present Vice President stopped Bork. Bork would have been Scalia on steroids and a pathetic Nixon hack too.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:35:33pm

Jeez, man. Laying it on a little heavy, aren’t we?

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:38:28pm

Good evening, lizards. We just got back from a Kitka concert. It’s a women’s acapella vocal ensemble that does Eastern European folk music. If you live in the Bay Area you can still see them in Oakland or San Francisco next weekend.

Kitka - A v Jerusalime (South Russia/Ukraine)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:38:41pm

re: #66 Great White Snark

Thanks. Old architecture has texture, grain, detail. It’s nice to get a chance to show it well.

I love the details older buildings have. I can’t imagine something like Grand Central Terminal being built nowadays. In China, new buildings mostly look the same, no matter if they are homes or office buildings. Even with all the money laying about here, no one feels compelled to create something visually appealing, or dog forbid, creative. And the few edgy buildings (CCTV HQ in Beijing, for example) end up being big jokes.

Fortunately, there are a few preservationists in China trying to save the older buildings from the wrecking ball.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:39:44pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly astounded that Ruth Bader Ginsburg can be friends with such a man.

Yeah, I’ve always wondered about that myself. I get that all nine are working a job that few people could ever relate to, and I’m sure they’re all aware (even Thomas) of the impact that they’ll have for decades on the US.

But, man, I just can’t see the notorious RBG reading something like that and going “Eh, whaddya gonna do?” My fantasy is that on Monday she’ll pass Scalia in the hallway and jack him up by the lapels, screaming “I’ve got your ‘Minorities aren’t that smart” RIGHT HERE!”

I mean, Jesus Christ, it’s fucking 2015 and we have a Supreme Court judge wondering out loud, in public, about whether African-Americans have the mental capacity to handle college.

The guy’s a walking advertisement for amending the Constitution to have term limits for SCOTUS justices.

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:41:53pm

re: #71 Mattand

He’s just asking questions…

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:42:17pm

re: #63 Whack-A-Mole

I was just telling my buddy this afternoon during the game, the Capital One credit card commercials Samuel L does are always so disappointing for me. Every time I see one, I am just begging that he’s going to drop an F-bomb. Just once, I want to hear “What’s in your mother@&*#*&^ wallet?”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:42:31pm

re: #71 Mattand

Yeah, I’ve always wondered about that myself. I get that all nine are working a job that few people could ever relate to, and I’m sure they’re all aware (even Thomas) of the impact that they’ll have for decades on the US.

But, man, I just can’t see the notorious RBG reading something like that and going “Eh, whaddya gonna do?” My fantasy is that on Monday she’ll pass Scalia in the hallway and jack him up by the lapels, screaming “I’ve got your ‘Minorities aren’t that smart” RIGHT HERE!”

I mean, Jesus Christ, it’s fucking 2015 and we have a Supreme Court judge wondering out loud, in public, about whether African-Americans have the mental capacity to handle college.

The guy’s a walking advertisement for amending the Constitution to have term limits for SCOTUS justices.

What I hate about Scalia is his arrogance. It’s what I hate about Thomas and the entire “originalist” philosophy. They think they know exactly what the Founders would have wanted in in 21st century America. They furthermore ignore time after time again that the Founders themselves accepted the Constitution’s flexibility. Take the Louisiana Purchase, Jefferson immediately stopped being a “strict constructionist” when it came to the biggest land grab in our nation’s history. Plus how he belittles people who don’t see thins his way. Maybe it’s a clique thing but I really hope RBG give him a piece of her mind for that crap.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:44:14pm

re: #72 calochortus

He’s just asking questions…

I’d have to go back and review the thread, but I believe one regular here come this close to white-splaining the whole thing.

I’m geniunely surprised I haven’t seen more of that in general, but I’ve purged my social media of the idiots who do that stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:45:38pm

re: #75 Mattand

I’d have to go back and review the thread, but I believe one regular here come this close to white-splaining the whole thing.

I’m geniunely surprised I haven’t seen more of that in general, but I’ve purged my social media of the idiots who do that stuff.

Oh, it was much much closer.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:47:35pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I visited the Constitution Center in Philly today for the for the first time. There’s a quote from George Washington in the Signer’s Hall that basically says “We don’t know everything. We’re not perfect. Hopefully, everyone after us will get that and act accordingly.”

I realize that Washington isn’t generally associated with the Constitution, but if that quote doesn’t put the Originalist argument to rest, I don’t know what does.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:47:46pm

re: #75 Mattand

I’d have to go back and review the thread, but I believe one regular here come this close to white-splaining the whole thing.

I’m geniunely surprised I haven’t seen more of that in general, but I’ve purged my social media of the idiots who do that stuff.

If you’re talking about what I think you are, what I saw was an attempt to distant the “honorable” Scalia from CCJ. I pretty much pointed out that Scalia is worse than CCJ since Scaia’s been directly impacting our nation’s laws through his assholish behavior and bigoted beliefs for longer than CCJ and I have been alive. I mean as obnoxious as CCJ as is, I see him as a mere booger as opposed to the ass pimple I see Scalia. Our children will be looking at Scalia’s whinefest over SSM being legalized. CCJ OTOH is a name that will be quickly forgotten. In fact, I wager to you that I’ll have forgotten who the guy is in a few years.

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makeitstop  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:48:12pm

re: #63 Whack-A-Mole

I was just telling my buddy this afternoon during the game, the Capital One credit card commercials Samuel L does are always so disappointing for me. Every time I see one, I am just begging that he’s going to drop an F-bomb. Just once, I want to hear “What’s in your mother@&*#*&^ wallet?”

Until an actual F-bomb is uttered, my preference will be the Jennifer Garner spots.

Way more easy on the eyes.

Now if we could get her to drop an F-bomb in a C1 spot….

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:48:39pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

If you’re talking about what I think you are, what I saw was an attempt to distant the “honorable” Scalia from CCJ. I pretty much pointed out that Scalia is worse than CCJ since Scaia’s been directly impacting our nation’s laws through his assholish behavior and bigoted beliefs for longer than CCJ and I have been alive. I mean as obnoxious as CCJ as is, I see him as a mere booger as opposed to the ass pimple I see Scalia. Our children will be looking at Scalia’s whinefest over SSM being legalized. CCJ OTOH is a name that will be quickly forgotten. In fact, I wager to you that I’ll have forgotten who the guy is in a few years.

Yup.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:48:50pm

re: #77 Mattand

I visited the Constitution Center in Philly today for the for the first time. There’s a quote from George Washington in the Signer’s Hall that basically says “We don’t know everything. We’re not perfect. Hopefully, everyone after us will get that and act accordingly.”

I realize that Washington isn’t generally associated with the Constitution, but if that quote doesn’t put the Originalist argument to rest, I don’t know what does.

Actually, Washington was chairman of the Constitutional Convention if I remember my history correctly. I think I saw that scholar of scholars, Ben Carson tried to talk about Thomas Jefferson’s role in it. Except Jefferson wasn’t there.

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:49:18pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

What I hate about Scalia is his arrogance. It’s what I hate about Thomas and the entire “originalist” philosophy. They think they know exactly what the Founders would have wanted in in 21st century America. They furthermore ignore time after time again that the Founders themselves accepted the Constitution’s flexibility. Take the Louisiana Purchase, Jefferson immediately stopped being a “strict constructionist” when it came to the biggest land grab in our nation’s history. Plus how he belittles people who don’t see thins his way. Maybe it’s a clique thing but I really hope RBG give him a piece of her mind for that crap.

If I recall correctly, the ink was barely dry on the Constitution before the men who wrote the thing started debating about what, exactly, it meant. If only they had Scalia to explain it to them.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:49:20pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, it was much much closer.

LOL.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:49:44pm

re: #63 Whack-A-Mole

I was just telling my buddy this afternoon during the game, the Capital One credit card commercials Samuel L does are always so disappointing for me. Every time I see one, I am just begging that he’s going to drop an F-bomb. Just once, I want to hear “What’s in your mother@&*#*&^ wallet?”

I think I’d probably prefer: “What the fuck is in your wallet?”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:49:56pm

re: #80 Mattand

Yup.

He’s defended Scalia coming out against Brown too. Agh, I’ve been more patient in the past but I had one of my breaking points yesterday when it came to the climate treaty in Paris.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:50:49pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

He’s defended Scalia coming out against Brown too. Agh, I’ve been more patient in the past but I had one of my breaking points yesterday when it came to the climate treaty in Paris.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:51:13pm

re: #82 calochortus

If I recall correctly, the ink was barely dry on the Constitution before the men who wrote the thing started debating about what, exactly, it meant. If only they had Scalia to explain it to them.

Another historical pet peeve I have is to lump the Founders in as one group and I will also point out that some of the Founders thought a Constitution was too “intrusive.” And I’ll point out also for all their fears of “big government”, guys like Sam Adams and Patrick Henry were fine with it when they felt their privilege was threatened during things like Shays Rebellion and later the Whiskey Rebellion.

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jaunte  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:51:45pm
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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:53:51pm

re: #88 jaunte

The black market for reindeer horn aphrodisiac powder is out of control.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:54:16pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:54:25pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Another historical pet peeve I have is to lump the Founders in as one group and I will also point out that some of the Founders thought a Constitution was too “intrusive.” And I’ll point out also for all their fears of “big government”, guys like Sam Adams and Patrick Henry were fine with it when they felt their privilege was threatened during things like Shays Rebellion and later the Whiskey Rebellion.

There were considerable disagreements among the Founders about the new government. The first attempt (the Confederation) was an abject failure, so they had come up with USA v. 2.0 (the Constitution).

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:56:26pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I swear to Allah that I saw something about Clinton wanting to impeach Thomas.

However, I have an unrelated question.

I am trying to find out about one small twig on my family tree. I noticed an ethnic group called the Lemko on there. They are described as a subgroup of others.

But everywhere I see differs on who they are a subgroup of. The Ruthenians, the Ukrainians and the Rusyn are all said to be the larger group the Lemko are in.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:56:38pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Much better and more eloquent than what I was going to say.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:56:41pm

re: #88 jaunte

This is why the real Santa has a private aircraft. The TSA would confiscate most of the toys in his sack as potential weapons.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:56:46pm

re: #91 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There were considerable disagreements among the Founders about the new government. The first attempt (the Confederation) was an abject failure, so they had come up with USA v. 2.0 (the Constitution).

Exactly, I mean there’s a reason why in school we learn about things like the Great Compromise, the 3/5’s compromise, etc. I mean it makes sense. Yeah they were all white guys of Western European descent and nearly all wealthy either by born or by means but still with regional and religious differences you were bound to have disagreement.

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Jay C  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:59:18pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

re: #67 HappyWarrior

And the prospect of several Supreme Court nominations coming up in the near future/next Presidential term ought to also influence peoples’ voting (for those who care about it) for Senate seats as well. The GOP (and the right wing in general) are still suffering severe butthurt over Robert Bork’s rejection 28 years on, and , as time has denied them the opportunity to nail down a semi-permanent reactionary majority on the SCOTUS , have only (AFAICT) gotten shriller on the issue. I anticipate huge, nasty fights on any nominations President Clinton 45 might send up: having as many Democratic - or at least non-wingnut - Senators as possible is a vital factor.

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Mattand  Dec 13, 2015 • 7:59:21pm

re: #92 The War TARDIS

I swear to Allah that I saw something about Clinton wanting to impeach Thomas.

That’s the first I’ve heard of that. I would imagine if it were an actual thing, most people here would be aware of it, in that Fox News would have totally lost its shit over a statement like that. Everyone here is clued in enough to the Bat-Shit-O-Sphere that the disturbance in the Force would have been palpable.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:01:21pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Exactly, I mean there’s a reason why in school we learn about things like the Great Compromise, the 3/5’s compromise, etc. I mean it makes sense. Yeah they were all white guys of Western European descent and nearly all wealthy either by born or by means but still with regional and religious differences you were bound to have disagreement.

This is why the RWNJs hate the AP US History program. It shatters any delusions that the founding of America was some kind of divine inspiration.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:02:42pm

re: #82 calochortus

If I recall correctly, the ink was barely dry on the Constitution before the men who wrote the thing started debating about what, exactly, it meant. If only they had Scalia to explain it to them.

I was involved in the rewrite of a fraternity chapter’s constitution once. Because of my knowledge of history and having dealt with legalistic garbage of this sort while a chapter officer I insisted on, and spearheaded, the development of an accompanying document that explained the general spirit and intention of the various clauses of the document.

Not that it ended up helping when stuff happened a few years later.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:03:11pm

re: #92 The War TARDIS

I swear to Allah that I saw something about Clinton wanting to impeach Thomas.

However, I have an unrelated question.

I am trying to find out about one small twig on my family tree. I noticed an ethnic group called the Lemko on there. They are described as a subgroup of others.

But everywhere I see differs on who they are a subgroup of. The Ruthenians, the Ukrainians and the Rusyn are all said to be the larger group the Lemko are in.

I think with stateless people like that, it really depends who you ask. The Lemko are Rusyns. Where it gets tricky though is how the nations handle it. From what I know, the Slovak government does acknowledge the Rusyn people as their own ethnic group while the Ukrainian government does not and merely sees them as Ukrainians. They see themselves as Rusyn. When I had a researcher research my family in Slovakia, he mentioned that my cousin (Mike Strank of the Iwo Jima flag photo) is probably the most famous American of Slovak descent, they reminded him that Mike was Rusyn and not Slovak. I personally see myself as being of Rusyn cultural descent but Slovak national descent. I think the Lemkos unlike my family though predominately are Orthodox. My family were Eastern Rite Catholics. It’s all so fascinating since until I started researching this stuff, I had always thought I was straight up Slovak but in hindsight, it did strike me as intriguing that my family was Eastern Rite while the vast majority of Slovakia itself is either RCC with some Lutherans too. Did you find where in Slovakia your family is from? If you’re part Rusyn, you probably have roots in the Presov region near the Ukrainian and Polish borders.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:03:42pm

re: #97 Mattand

That’s the first I’ve heard of that. I would imagine if it were an actual thing, most people here would be aware of it, in that Fox News would have totally lost its shit over a statement like that. Everyone here is clued in enough to the Bat-Shit-O-Sphere that the disturbance in the Force would have been palpable.

Ooops sorry, got so caught up in the cultural thing that I have to agree that something like this would have been headline news.

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VegasGolfer  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:03:55pm

re: #73 Mattand

Yeah, Sam Jackson twirling a baton makes me cringe.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:04:43pm

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is why the RWNJs hate the AP US History program. It shatters any delusions that the founding of America was some kind of divine inspiration.

Yep. Honestly what I hate is the lie about the “reluctant slave owners.” Nothing reluctant about Jefferson especially.

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:05:41pm

re: #99 Feline Fearless Leader

Not that it ended up helping when stuff happened a few years later.

Of course not. But at least you tried.

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VegasGolfer  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:06:45pm

I like this Samuel L. Jackson
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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:07:39pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Yep. Honestly what I hate is the lie about the “reluctant slave owners.” Nothing reluctant about Jefferson especially.

I think Jefferson in particular was conflicted rather than reluctant. But he just couldn’t give up his lifestyle. The Founding Fathers, like everyone else, were complex people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:09:55pm

I mean were all slave owners exactly the same, no of course not but you can’t tell me that Jefferson was a relucant slave owner when he didn’t even free his slaves in his will. I get that he was bankrupt at the time of his death. Frankly what I hate about how wingers approach history is they want us to view our founders as almost saints. Frankly, it’s the contradictions that make history well history. That Jefferson can write such beautiful words in the Declaration while continuing to own slaves at Monticello is history too. Honestly, I think I view history through the lens of my own family’s experiences. I may be one of the youngest lizards here but I did have a grandmother who could remember the day when women got the right to vote. I think we need to be aware that our country wasn’t always fulfilling its promise.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:10:29pm

re: #2 Maddies Mom

So much love to you. Comfort. You have friends.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:10:30pm

re: #106 calochortus

I think Jefferson in particular was conflicted rather than reluctant. But he just couldn’t give up his lifestyle. The Founding Fathers, like everyone else, were complex people.

Good point.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:14:32pm

re: #106 calochortus

I think Jefferson in particular was conflicted rather than reluctant. But he just couldn’t give up his lifestyle. The Founding Fathers, like everyone else, were complex people.

And Jefferson was nothing like the perverted caricature that Barton created in his book. Honestly, the revisionism in that discredited manuscript was just like the historical revisionism that ran wild in the Soviet Union.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:15:27pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon

And Jefferson was nothing like the perverted caricature that Barton created in his book. Honestly, the revisionism in that discredited manuscript was just like the historical revisionism that ran wild in the Soviet Union.

Barton is just about the worst. And of course he has a role in shaping education in one of our largest staets.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:15:57pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Barton is just about the worst. And of course he has a role in shaping education in one of our largest staets.

Texas?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:16:13pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

Texas?

Yeah.

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:17:07pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon

And Jefferson was nothing like the perverted caricature that Barton created in his book. Honestly, the revisionism in that discredited manuscript was just like the historical revisionism that ran wild in the Soviet Union.

And really, which is more inspiring and impressive? Flawed people coming together to create a new concept of governance-arguing, failing, trying again and succeeding, or some deity creating cardboard cutouts of saints and plopping a plan into their hands?

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:17:09pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

That branch (Mom’s Side), along with the Norweigan/Swedish on my Dad’s side, are most recent contribution from immigrants. I know that family came from that long Southern Polish Border, including Silesia, going all the way to Ukraine, with one of the migrants coming the Silesia region, and other from the Slovakia-Poland-Ukraine area.

I also know that, when one of them immigrated, the origin said “Russian,” but the ethnicity was Austrian.

So, somewhere at the Russian-Austro-Hungarian Border? North of Lviv?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:17:44pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

Texas?

Yes. And the large states have a big influence on the textbooks used nationally. We need to be grateful California is a counterweight to Texas trying to muck up science and history texts.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:17:54pm

re: #106 calochortus

I think Jefferson in particular was conflicted rather than reluctant. But he just couldn’t give up his lifestyle. The Founding Fathers, like everyone else, were complex people.

Not to mention the very structure of society is different these days. People nowadays sometimes say “Jefferson slept with his slaves!” which brings up one image. However if you consider the circumstances - first, that Sally Hemings was of mixed race, and second, that he was basically boning the help - a normal thing to do at the time - that’s a bit different.

There’s some really interesting casual misogyny in John Adams’ writings to Abigail, too. I’ve seen an excerpt from an exchange where he basically laughs off her very well-considered suggestion that maybe women might be able to vote someday.

They were clearly white men of status, that’s for sure. :P

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Whack-A-Mole  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:19:08pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Frankly what I hate about how wingers approach history is they want us to view our founders as almost saints.

It’s not just the Founders they view as saints. For the wingnuts, everything is white or black, saint or demon, good or evil. They can’t even really acknowledge the unwelcome parts of their heroes (Reagan and gun control, taxes, etc).

It’s been a long time since I took a psych class but it always reminded me of what they call splitting.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:21:15pm

re: #114 calochortus

And really, which is more inspiring and impressive? Flawed people coming together to create a new concept of governance-arguing, failing, trying again and succeeding, or some deity creating cardboard cutouts of saints and plopping a plan into their hands?

Reality is always more interesting than the caricature.

That’s what irks me about religious mythology, whether it’s about the Founding Fathers or the creation of the Universe. Apply science and scholarship, consider the evidence, and the real story is ten times as interesting. Every. Single. Time.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:23:12pm

re: #115 The War TARDIS

That branch, along with the Norweigan/Swedish on my Dad’s side, with most recent contribution from immigrants. I know that family came from that long Southern Polish Border, including Silesia, going all the way to Ukraine, with one of the migrants coming the Silesia region, and other from the Slovakia-Poland-Ukraine area.

I also know that, when one of them immigrated, the origin said “Russian,” but the ethnicity was Austrian.

So, somewhere at the Russian-Austro-Hungarian Border? North of Lviv?

I think the ethnicity documents said Austrian (some also say Hungarian) since they were indicating the empire. But yeah close to the Russian-Austrian/Hungarian empires borders sounds right to me. i don’t know for sure but my grandmother has told me that her father worked in Siberia and then I looked at the map and saw how close the village was to the border. Bratislava, Slovakia’s capital is really close to Vienna. In fact, I think until fairly recently it had more German speakers than Slovaks and had a German name. But yeah this is my closest too actually. My great grandmother left in the early 20’s. She was her husband’s second wife since his first one had died.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:24:03pm

re: #118 Whack-A-Mole

It’s not just the Founders they view as saints. For the wingnuts, everything is white or black, saint or demon, good or evil. They can’t even really acknowledge the unwelcome parts of their heroes (Reagan and gun control, taxes, etc).

It’s been a long time since I took a psych class but it always reminded me of what they call splitting.

I was actually talking about this with my brother the other day. WE both agreed that a big part of the conservative mindset is the tendency to view things in absolutes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:28:03pm

So, Tardis since you got me thinking about ancestry and that stuff. I thought oyu may be interested in knowing that I got some work done in Slovenia. I’ve also been in touch with a Slovenian genalogical society. When I got my results that listed the home vlilage of my great grandparents, I told the researcher there adn she told me that the soceity’s Slovene phonebook indicated three people in their home villages that have my great grandparents surnames. I’m going to write them. I have no idea how if we’re related at all but I think there’s a good chance. I really want to learn more about life in Slovenia and how those in the family handled the Axis invasion and later Tito and then the breakup of Yugoslavia. It’s pretty cool to know that you have possible 3rd cousins still residing in Europe and speaking the native language. I don’t haev anything like that with my Irish/German relations.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:32:02pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:33:53pm

Little Cottonwood Canyon outside of SLC, Utah. Beauty.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:34:06pm

My limited family research appears to be much more boring than what everyone else is posting. Mainly German names, and most seem to trace back to different parts of the Rhineland with the ancestors coming to North America in the 18th or 19th century. With one or two Irish names mixed in on my father’s side over the 6-7 generations.

We thought we had some Scot mixed in, but that name (Rose) turned out to actually be an Anglicized version of a German name (Roos). I actually exchanged emails with a cousin in that part of the family recently. I replied to a 6-year-old query on ancestry.com regarding my grandfather, and got a response.

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Great White Snark  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:38:01pm

re: #116 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yes. And the large states have a big influence on the textbooks used nationally. We need to be grateful California is a counterweight to Texas trying to muck up science and history texts.

That and maybe getting off of paper would help. PDF the textbooks. No more volume print issues.

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calochortus  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:39:27pm

Good night lizards. Hasta mañana.

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BeachDem  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:39:58pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

If you’re talking about what I think you are, what I saw was an attempt to distant the “honorable” Scalia from CCJ. I pretty much pointed out that Scalia is worse than CCJ since Scaia’s been directly impacting our nation’s laws through his assholish behavior and bigoted beliefs for longer than CCJ and I have been alive. I mean as obnoxious as CCJ as is, I see him as a mere booger as opposed to the ass pimple I see Scalia. Our children will be looking at Scalia’s whinefest over SSM being legalized. CCJ OTOH is a name that will be quickly forgotten. In fact, I wager to you that I’ll have forgotten who the guy is in a few years.

It was at this point, long ago and far away, that I knew Scalia was a worthless piece o’shit—19 fucking 89:

At the moment where the moderator indicated that the innocent man was about to be executed for a crime he didn’t commit, Justice Scalia spoke up: “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway.”

learner.org

This whole series, Ethics in America, is as relevant today as it was 26 years ago. I just re-watched the whole series recently. (And seeing things like Rudy Guiliani with hair…)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:40:36pm

re: #125 Feline Fearless Leader

My limited family research appears to be much more boring than what everyone else is posting. Mainly German names, and most seem to trace back to different parts of the Rhineland with the ancestors coming to North America in the 18th or 19th century. With one or two Irish names mixed in on my father’s side over the 6-7 generations.

We thought we had some Scot mixed in, but that name (Rose) turned out to actually be an Anglicized version of a German name (Roos). I actually exchanged emails with a cousin in that part of the family recently. I replied to a 6-year-old query on ancestry.com regarding my grandfather, and got a response.

I’m sure if you keep on searching, you’ll find some interesting stuff. Honestly it amazes me how far back some people can go. My cousin was telling me that her mother has traced that side back to William the Conqueror. Meanwhile, I’m just happy to get to the late 19th century. What makes my searching so weird is how many people I’m directly descended from that were the youngest in their family.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:40:59pm

re: #128 BeachDem

It was at this point, long ago and far away, that I knew Scalia was a worthless piece o’shit—19 fucking 89:

At the moment where the moderator indicated that the innocent man was about to be executed for a crime he didn’t commit, Justice Scalia spoke up: “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway.”

learner.org

This whole series, Ethics in America, is as relevant today as it was 26 years ago. I just re-watched the whole series recently. (And seeing things like Rudy Guiliani with hair…)

Yes, that was evil even for him.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:41:12pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

That’s pretty cool.

On the Swiss portion, my grandfather was able to trace back to the early 1100’s.

Most other places go back 300-500 Years. But the Norwegian/ Swedish and the Western Slav areas only go back to the 1810-1830s. That’s unlikely to change, considering how the War went in those areas, and naming conventions among Nordic Nations. Norway did put up a huge resistance to Nazi Germany, that a country of its size normally would not be able to do.

Not to mention the resistance made things so restive, that well over 100k Nazi trrops had to be deployed to Norway, just to hold it down. That had to have helped the Allies.

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:45:06pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

Most other places go back 300-500 Years. But the Norwegian/ Swedish and the Western Slav areas only go back to the 1810-1830s.

Lots of Scandinavian records even back to the 1600s. Surprised that you can’t find anything more on your Scandinavian ancestors.

As for Eastern Europe - certainly WWI and WWII destroyed lots of connections and records.

But that is one of the goals of war - to eliminate your enemy, and that includes erasing their history.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:46:07pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

That’s pretty cool.

On the Swiss portion, my grandfather was able to trace back to the early 1100’s.

Most other places go back 300-500 Years. But the Norwegian/ Swedish and the Western Slav areas only go back to the 1810-1830s. That’s unlikely to change, considering how the War went in those areas, and naming conventions among Nordic Nations. Norway did put up a huge resistance to Nazi Germany, that a country of its size normally would not be able to do.

Not to mention the resistance made things so restive, that well over 100k Nazi trrops had to be deployed to Norway, just to hold it down. That had to have helped the Allies.

What sucks is a lot of records have been destroyed to war. More Irish records would be available but there was a fire in Dublin during the Irish Civil War. I’m also working with an Irish researcher. He says it’s a long shot since we don’t know exactly when my great great grandfather was born nor the exact county but we strongly suspect Mayo or Galway judging by the name and that his mother was indicated as a Mayo native in the obituary I found but the thing is his last name is really really common for Western Ireland and so is his mother’s. But I got really lucky with the Slovak and Slovenes so I’m hopeful that I’ll strike gold thrice. The German records are actually pretty through on Ancestry. That’s the side Iv’e gotten the most furthest back. I joked with my Dad that sometimes the stereotype is true. But yeah I really hope I get a response when I write them. I don’t know what my family did during the war but my grandfather told stories when I was a kid about how apparently someone was shot and that inspired the surviving siblings to join the resistance- not sure if Partisans or Cetniks, I suspect Partisans, not any Slovene Cetniks that I know of due to the Cetniks predominately Serbian and Orthodox inclinations but I’m interested in finding out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:48:18pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

I was actually talking about this with my brother the other day. WE both agreed that a big part of the conservative mindset is the tendency to view things in absolutes.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:48:19pm

re: #126 Great White Snark

That and maybe getting off of paper would help. PDF the textbooks. No more volume print issues.

It’s where the future is heading, but it would require every student have a laptop/iPad/tablet/Nook/Kindle or some future version of e-book viewer. It would also require each teacher be trained on the use of such devices and how to use them in the classroom. To be honest, the second challenge is the larger of the two. I lived through the Great Calculator controversy as a student, then the Great Word Processor controversy as a teacher. Many teachers are very set in their ways, and are unwilling to move with the times.

Th downside of electronic textbooks would be each state could custom-order its own version, which would allow the nutjobs in Texas and elsewhere to foist nonsense on their schoolchildren.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:50:02pm

re: #132 freetoken

Lots of Scandinavian records even back to the 1600s. Surprised that you can’t find anything more on your Scandinavian ancestors.

As for Eastern Europe - certainly WWI and WWII destroyed lots of connections and records.

But that is one of the goals of war - to eliminate your enemy, and that includes erasing their history.

Makes me think of that line in Schindler’s List when Fiennes as Goeth or maybe it was another Nazi said while liquidating the Krakow Ghetto, there will be no proof that the Jews were ever there. That’s something I thought about visiting Prague’s Jewish Quarter some years back about how a community that been there for generations upon generations was wiped out with the sign of an order. So sad. I knew before I got this information that one of my grandfather’s uncles had survived the war since I found a copy of an obituary for another uncle that mentioned the other brother as a survivor residing in Yugoslavia.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:50:39pm

Back from a weekend on the coast down near Big Sur. The waves this past weekend were amazing. There is nothing like sitting in a hot spring perched above the ocean, watching for shooting stars and listening to the waves roar.

And we saw elephant seals, but my new phone camera produces photos that are too large for my usual image resizer, so I need to figure out a new way to shrink them to post to LGF. Oops. Maybe tomorrow.

Anyway, just popping in to wave hello.

{{Maddie’s Mom}}

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 8:56:40pm

re: #131 The War TARDIS

But the Norwegian/ Swedish and the Western Slav areas only go back to the 1810-1830s.

Are you sure about that? In Sweden the local parishes served as the bureau of vital records, and kept careful records of births, deaths, marriages and migration from one parish to another. Probably Norway was the same. But the difficulty in tracing your ancestry back is the patronymic naming system. Fixed surnames didn’t become common in Sweden until the mid-19th century, so you have to sort out which Jon Jonsson or Karolina Andersdotter was yours and not some other family’s.

Parish records in most parts of Sweden go back to the 1600s, or earlier. One of my branches goes back to 1400. And now I think all of them are digitized and searchable online. So much easier than slogging through archive registers in the provincial offices, like I did way back in ‘79.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:01:08pm

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

One lady definitely came from Sweden, into Norway before independence.

Problem is, her last name was Anderson.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:02:30pm

Good god, Trump voters up close are something else. These people are tripping harder than my worst/best psychedelic trip.

Trump supporters: We’re tired of “weak candidates”

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:02:33pm

re: #138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hmm, I will need to see a site for that.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:02:42pm

Man you guys are lucky with the places that go back far. What also makes tracking records done in an empire is you have different spellings. One of the Slovenian genealogical society people was telling me about how you’d have different spellings of the same surname since earlier the priests were only Austrian and thus German speaking and only later were they Slovene. Nonetheless though, I’m grateful that there were records of my great grandparents and their siblings on file. I think one of the saddest thing to me is seeing how many people died as children. Of course, that happened here in America as well. Two of my four grandparents had a sibling die in childhood and another had siblings that died of stillbirth. And the one grandparent that did not have a sibling die lost her mother at a young age. I like to think that a lot of my liberalism is linked to the fact I look at history and the past and I don’t want people taking for granted how much more difficult lives our ancestors had than us. It’s why I scoff big time when I try to see the pre federal income tax days romanticized.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:05:23pm

re: #132 freetoken

Lots of Scandinavian records even back to the 1600s. Surprised that you can’t find anything more on your Scandinavian ancestors.

As for Eastern Europe - certainly WWI and WWII destroyed lots of connections and records.

But that is one of the goals of war - to eliminate your enemy, and that includes erasing their history.

Another reason that war sucks… Destruction of records.

My family history disappears at about 1700 on my father’s side and 1944 on my mother’s, due to the aftermath of the Thirty Years War and WW2, respectively. My oldest ancestor came to Pennsylvania in a Palatine ship in 1738, and I know his father’s name and what village he came from in Germany. I can’t find any sources further back than that. The village he came from was completely destroyed at least twice during the various wars of the era.

Same for my mother’s side, her father came from Ostpreussen, which was ethnically cleansed and completely Sovietized. Unless people carried papers out with them on donkey carts in 1944, there’s nothing to know.

Just FYI for anybody researching their backgrounds, there are such things as fraudulent genealogies out there. Look up Gustav Anjou for an example. Apparently it was good business to cook up false family histories for monied classes in New England at the turn of last century. Mr. Anjou alone is responsible for something like 200 completely fraudulent family trees, and he took great advantage of disruption in record-keeping due to wars when cooking up fake connections. I fell victim to this myself, as some people online have genealogies which connect my ancestors to alleged French nobility using big lateral leaps through the gaps caused by wars.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:06:38pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

At least it isn’t what happened with my last name at Ellis Island.

To be fair, they got 75% of it right.

But for some reason, they couldn’t tell between an ‘i’ and an ‘e’ and then an ‘a’ and an ‘o’.

Though, I noticed what you said alot too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:11:19pm

re: #144 The War TARDIS

At least it isn’t what happened with my last name at Ellis Island.

To be fair, they got 75% of it right.

But for some reason, they couldn’t tell between an ‘i’ and an ‘e’ and then an ‘a’ and an ‘o’.

Though, I noticed what you said alot too.

I do wonder about stuff like that. Interestingly, I don’t know of any of my family names that were changed at Ellis. Now my grandfather’s name was changed but it appears that was after immigration. The most accurate census I’ve worked with is probably the 1900 one though since it lists the month of birth.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:13:58pm

re: #143 Pawn of the Oppressor

Another reason that war sucks… Destruction of records.

My family history disappears at about 1700 on my father’s side and 1944 on my mother’s, due to the aftermath of the Thirty Years War and WW2, respectively. My oldest ancestor came to Pennsylvania in a Palatine ship in 1738, and I know his father’s name and what village he came from in Germany. I can’t find any sources further back than that. The village he came from was completely destroyed at least twice during the various wars of the era.

Same for my mother’s side, her father came from Ostpreussen, which was ethnically cleansed and completely Sovietized. Unless people carried papers out with them on donkey carts in 1944, there’s nothing to know. My grandfather’s hometown is abandoned and empty, judging by the satellite imagery on Google Earth.

Just FYI for anybody researching their backgrounds, there are such things as fraudulent genealogies out there. Look up Gustav Anjou for an example. Apparently it was good business to cook up false family histories for monied classes in New England at the turn of last century. Mr. Anjou alone is responsible for something like 200 completely fraudulent family trees, and he took great advantage of disruption in record-keeping due to wars when cooking up fake connections. I fell victim to this myself, as some people online have genealogies which connect my ancestors to alleged French nobility using big lateral leaps through the gaps caused by wars.

That’s good to know about fraud. It sucks that people would do this. Honestly, what I would love to do some day is actually visit the villages where they were all from. I know where some of them did so I feel really happy that I achieved that goal.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:15:13pm

re: #139 The War TARDIS

One lady definitely came from Sweden, into Norway before independence.

Problem is, her last name was Anderson.

Haha. So was my mom’s, so I had lots of fun tracking down her dad’s line in Ostergotland. His father was Anders Svensson, which I knew from my uncle, so that made it a little easier. But I had no idea which parish he was born in. We only knew Grandpa Anderson lived close enough to Lake Vattern to go fishing every day with his dad. So, I checked every parish one by one to find the right Anderson with the right birthday and father. The archivists said it would take weeks to find him. But I lucked out, and found him listed in the eighth parish I checked. After that, tracing the family line back to the 1700s was relatively easy.

Electronic searches would go much faster now. If you know her name and birthdate, it might be enough to find her. But you’d have to also know which province (lan) she came from.

This page has the links to the provincial archives. genealogy.about.com

Also this is helpful. sverigeturism.se

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danarchy  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:17:15pm

re: #128 BeachDem

It was at this point, long ago and far away, that I knew Scalia was a worthless piece o’shit—19 fucking 89:

At the moment where the moderator indicated that the innocent man was about to be executed for a crime he didn’t commit, Justice Scalia spoke up: “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway.”

learner.org

I just went back and watched this and you left something off. Scalia said “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway, he is going to say.”

He was making a joke about the response of the defense attorney. I am no fan of Scalia, but IMO that is a hell of a misrepresentation of what happened. It was more about his opinion on criminal defense attorneys than innocent defendants.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:17:42pm

I think one of the biggest paradoxes for me was that the smallest country I was researching Slovenia proved the most difficult. Thankfully, I did find that Slovenian society who gave me the contact information of the Slovene archives. Pretty much everyone I’ve talked to both domestically and overseas has been really really helpful in the search process.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:20:21pm

I’m seeing some wacky shit on my Twitter feed in re: #PostYourFavoriteStarWarsCharacter.

And there’s @ProfJeffJarvis, always bucking the trend with his unique brand of “hyperglocal thinkfluence,” ahead of the curve with a British spelling and plural hashtag.

Oh, and @AndyRichter is a Twitter pro.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:21:01pm

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

For me, it is likely the region aroung Värmland and Västra Götaland counties.

We know their children were later in the area around Akershus and Ostfold in Norway, so it had to be close into the border.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:22:15pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

Republican Dalek.

But I repeat myself.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:24:37pm

What confused me for the longest time was understanding the difference between removed cousins and number cousins. I mean it is a pretty big deal that FDR and Teddy Roosevelt were fifth cousins and even that FDR married Teddy’s niece but I can’t help but to wonder how big a deal it would be if they had different surnames. There were presidents granted not as larger than life than those two that were much closer in relation. Not just talking about Adams and son or Grandpa Harrison and Grandson Harrison either.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:25:09pm

re: #152 The War TARDIS

I’ve never watched Dr. Who so that went over my head until I consulted the Google thingy.

I hear it’s a pretty entertaining show.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:29:58pm

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s the big problem with mine.

My grandfather, when looking on the records from Norway just found the description of birthplace as “Sverige.”

This is the Swedish/Norwiegan/all Nordic Languages word for Sweden.

It’s a vague descriptor.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:29:59pm

re: #151 The War TARDIS

For me, it is likely the region aroung Värmland and Västra Götaland counties.

We know their children were later in the area around Akershus and Ostfold in Norway, so it had to be close into the border.

Sounds likely. Don’t give up on tracing them. The patronymic system helps narrow down the father’s first name, at least.

My grandfather and his siblings, who all came to America before 1900, were the first in their family to adopt Anderson as their surname. Grandpa was the youngest child, and the last to come over in 1896. He was the also the one who had to return twice to Sweden to take care of their parents’ deaths.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:32:13pm

re: #155 The War TARDIS

That’s the big problem with mine.

My grandfather, when looking on the records from Norway just found the description of birthplace as “Sverige.”

This is the Swedish/Norwiegan/all Nordic Languages word for Sweden.

It’s a vague descriptor.

And not just because of the size of Sverige. The borders changed several times before the Norge/Sverige separation.

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Teukka  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:46:22pm

re: #157 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And not just because of the size of Sverige. The borders changed several times before the Norge/Sverige separation.

Let’s not forget Finland, it was part of Sweden until the early 19th century.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:51:53pm

When my wife and I looked into our ancestry were surprised to discover we both share Swiss heritage. Switzerland is not a large country so the odds of both of us having it in our blood seemed low.

My legal last name is of Swiss origin but I’m also 1/2 Irish (got the red hair to prove it) and 1/4 English. On the English side of things my Grandfather traced the family line back to Henry VIII.

Also my wife was surprised to discover that her paternal Grandmother was actually Jewish. I believe as a result my wife is eligible to apply for Israeli citizenship.

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William Lewis  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:52:10pm

re: #158 Teukka

Let’s not forget Finland, it was part of Sweden until the early 19th century.

And not forget their Imperial Russian interregnum.

My college girlfriends great grandfather hopped a boat to the US almost literally one step ahead of the Russian forest police after being seen cutting timber in a woods claimed by the Tsar and having to run for their lives. I understand from the stories passed down that the police were looking for him on the docks as the ship pulled out to sea.

She and I remain friends and I have a soft spot for Finlandia as a reasult as well.

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:59:09pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

Good god, Trump voters up close are something else. These people are tripping harder than my worst/best psychedelic trip.

Trump supporters: We’re tired of “weak candidates”

Trump supporters willingly fill the stereotype of fascist-endorsing voters.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 13, 2015 • 9:59:36pm

re: #158 Teukka

Oh dear, that’s right.

re: #157 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The records on that were from after the Napoleonic Era.

While Norway and Sweden were two nations under personal Union, there was a steady internal border, and Norway had a different constitution. Personal Unions are gone, with Sweden-Norway being one of the last four. Austria-Hungary disintegrated in 1918, along with the Russia-Finland. The last personal union was Denmark-Iceland, which was abolished in 1944.

Though, depending on how you term it, the Commonwealth of Nations and the Kingdom of the Netherlands may still qualify.

So that issue is not as important.

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teleskiguy  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:01:59pm

I don’t really do dead thread stuff. But today is an exception. My LGF experience in the last 24 hours has been…interesting. I did up LGF at work for the first time. I was able to take in a little more than usual, and even comment here and there. Because of this I seem to be the bookend to a few thread downstairs.

Lizard life is so hectic!

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:05:00pm

Enough of all that anti-American, anti-God music… time for some real Je$u$ loving singers. Presenting the duck-call family with this uplifting tune:

MP3 Audio

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:05:36pm

Yes, Americans buy that stuff.

Often in Walmart, which promoted that CD.

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:07:02pm
“Buy the kids a big trampoline,
everybody gets a new shotgun,

“

Yes, really, that’s some of the lyrics.

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:15:14pm

… so I don’t want to hear anyone complaining about Mantovani… or, in this case, Gitti and Erika covering the most standard of standards:

MP3 Audio

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:18:09pm

Apparently the Amazon-speaking hamster is not fluent in the German-Amazon dialect.

Here’s the bitly-ized link: amazon.com…

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freetoken  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:19:32pm

Well darn, the Amazon hamster recognizes the bitlyized link… but doesn’t translate the German…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 13, 2015 • 10:30:29pm

And here’s something we’re sure J0el 0$teen can sink his teeth into!

MP3 Audio

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 13, 2015 • 11:39:58pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart

They do have one point: a gun-free zone in the USA is kinda pointless unless it is a closed off area with security checks at all the entrances.

BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO DAMN MANY GUNS!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 13, 2015 • 11:44:04pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 13, 2015 • 11:51:04pm

re: #172 Ace-o-aces

Jürgen Klopp snubs Pulis after Liverpool’s late draw with West Bromwich

This can’t be a real sentence

It can. My fave was “Beeb gets Ibrox boot over Gazza clip”

It referred to the BBC being banned from Glasgow’s Ibrox stadium for showing a clip of player Paul Gascoigne (“Gazza”) making a rude gesture to offend an Irish team.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 12:17:51am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Th downside of electronic textbooks would be each state could custom-order its own version, which would allow the nutjobs in Texas and elsewhere to foist nonsense on their schoolchildren.

The downside of electronic textbooks is that the publisher (or somebody hacking the publisher) could evaporate every single copy overnight. Do you not remember when Amazon took back everyone’s “1984” and “Animal Farm”?

nytimes.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 12:20:19am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s where the future is heading, but it would require every student have a laptop/iPad/tablet/Nook/Kindle or some future version of e-book viewer.

The sooner we get there, the better.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 12:29:14am

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

Also my wife was surprised to discover that her paternal Grandmother was actually Jewish. I believe as a result my wife is eligible to apply for Israeli citizenship.

By Jewish law, Jewishness is 100% matrilineal. If it was her maternal grandmother she would qualify.

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Tigger2  Dec 14, 2015 • 12:51:35am

re: #123 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

God that is so fucking stupid lol.

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Teukka  Dec 14, 2015 • 1:11:58am

Oh boy, a new video against physical and sexual violence against women and girls is published, and some derps are already up in arms over it…
#DearDaddy
Background Info: The Local : ‘Dear Daddy’ film breaks hearts across Nordics

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 1:22:43am

re: #174 sagehen

The downside of electronic textbooks is that the publisher (or somebody hacking the publisher) could evaporate every single copy overnight. Do you not remember when Amazon took back everyone’s “1984” and “Animal Farm”?

nytimes.com

There’s something to be said for the semi-permanency of paper. But, many schools now don’t let the kids take their books home as loss control. I’m not sure how many would let a kid take home a school Kindle worth $50 or more.

Many kids only have worksheets to take home, because their schools don’t trust them with the textbooks. It’s especially a problem in the poorer districts, which of course is where the kids need their textbooks the most. (Assuming the books are not out of date or falling apart)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 1:25:46am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s something to be said for the semi-permanency of paper. But, many schools now don’t let the kids take their books home as loss control. I’m not sure how many would let a kid take home a school Kindle worth $50 or more.

Many kids only have worksheets to take home, because their schools don’t trust them with the textbooks. It’s especially a problem in the poorer districts, which of course is where the kids need their textbooks the most. (Assuming the books are not out of date or falling apart)

Schoolbooks, especially college tests, need to be replaced every couple of years. There is little advantage to the permanency of paper.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 1:33:07am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Schoolbooks, especially college tests, need to be replaced every couple of years. There is little advantage to the permanency of paper.

You can count on the publishers finding a way to make money off new electronic editions, though. With printed texts, one money-maker for them is to issue a “new edition” every other year and require buyers to return any unsold “old editions.” That way, buyers have to purchase the new editions. In most cases, even with science texts, the difference between new and old is minimal — a few new photos and updated info. The majority of the textual content is nearly identical.

I suppose the electronic version would be to wipe the old editions from the devices remotely, then require new fees for the “new” ones. This would eventually lead to piracy, if the fees are too high.

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:20:34am

Since y’all were talking genealogy upstream… it appears as if ancestry.com is changing its website tomorrow. Much angst on Facebook.

It’s all part of a redesign to prioritize mobile devices over desktop computers.

I’m not sure this will end well.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:26:28am

I went nuts buying tools this week. Think I broke the fever though.

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:27:07am

Long before the duck-caller family or the Duggar-cult, there was the Catholic Kelly Family:

MP3 Audio

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:27:41am

re: #183 Amory Blaine

There’s little that a CNC mill can’t fix.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:29:05am

re: #184 freetoken

Long before the duck-caller family or the Duggar-cult, there was the Catholic Kelly Family:

I remember seeing them performing on the streets in Germany in the late 80’s and wondering if they were not some sort of religious cult.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:30:03am

Heh. Nothing that serious, just some sorely missing hand tools. Bought some nice used ones that saved me some cash. I had to buy them, they saved me money!!

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:31:54am

Soprano Éva Marton

MP3 Audio

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:35:57am

Éva Marton again, singing Franck:

MP3 Audio

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Alephnaught  Dec 14, 2015 • 2:50:17am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Jürgen Klopp snubs Pulis after Liverpool’s late draw with West Bromwich

This can’t be a real sentence

It can. My fave was “Beeb gets Ibrox boot over Gazza clip”

It referred to the BBC being banned from Glasgow’s Ibrox stadium for showing a clip of player Paul Gascoigne (“Gazza”) making a rude gesture to offend an Irish team.

Even better, when the Scottish Sun reported on top Scottish football club Celtic being beaten by the not-very-well-known Inverness Caledonian Thistle:

“Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious”
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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 3:23:31am

Morning Lizards.

{{Maddies Mom}}.

Well as I predicted yesterday afternoon, the majority of the storm seems to have missed us. Just now starting to get some snow so we may actually see that 1 or 2 inches predicted. The wind on the other hand seems to have us right in the bulls eye at a steady 15mph gusting up to 20mph.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 3:32:45am

Unseasonably mild here in Germany, and dim outlooks for a White Christmas unless we wanna get up in the hills above 100 meters…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 3:36:57am

I have a networking hardware question for you all. The university here provides me with a PPPoE connection 24/7 at home. Lately, I’ve been having connectivity problems. Although my devices are connected to my wireless router, and Win10 reports it has an Internet connection, in fact it doesn’t, or the transmission rate is very very slow, leading to timeout errors while browsing, etc. If I tell the router to connect on a new IP address, everything is fine for about another 30 minutes, then the delays start again. Sometimes rebooting the router is the only way to fix things.

So, what I want to know is, do I have problem with the router (a Chinese brand) or the PPPoE connection gone hinky? I’d want to be sure it’s not my hardware before I complain the university IT department.

The uni’s IT guys were reconfiguring the DNS servers last month. That was loads of fun. I suspect my current troubles are related to the new set-up.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 3:51:17am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sounds like your router is starting to go south. If you have or can obtain another known good one I would suggest swapping it out and see if the problem clears up. If it does, great. If it doesn’t, get hold of your I.T. people. I am assuming you are using DHCP I.P. addressing and not static.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 3:58:43am

re: #194 Bubblehead II

Sounds like your router is starting to go south. If you have or can obtain another known good one I would suggest swapping it out and see if the problem clears up. If it does, great. If it doesn’t, get hold of your I.T. people. I am assuming you are using DHCP I.P. addressing and not static.

You got it. Yeah, I was considering replacing the router. I bought it cheap some years ago, and been using it heavily the last 3 years.

I just tweaked the DNS settings on the home LAN. We’ll see what happens.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 4:01:21am

re: #194 Bubblehead II

If I get a new router, I’ll make sure it has an English-language interface. This one is all in Chinese, which slows me down.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 4:01:25am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have a networking hardware question for you all. The university here provides me with a PPPoE connection 24/7 at home. Lately, I’ve been having connectivity problems. Although my devices are connected to my wireless router, and Win10 reports it has an Internet connection, in fact it doesn’t, or the transmission rate is very very slow, leading to timeout errors while browsing, etc. If I tell the router to connect on a new IP address, everything is fine for about another 30 minutes, then the delays start again. Sometimes rebooting the router is the only way to fix things.

So, what I want to know is, do I have problem with the router (a Chinese brand) or the PPPoE connection gone hinky? I’d want to be sure it’s not my hardware before I complain the university IT department.

The uni’s IT guys were reconfiguring the DNS servers last month. That was loads of fun. I suspect my current troubles are related to the new set-up.

I have Time Warner in Los Angeles.The routers they provide seem to last only 2 years then they fail. Just had to have my router replaced 2 weeks ago.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 4:06:56am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You got it. Yeah, I was considering replacing the router. I bought it cheap some years ago, and been using it heavily the last 3 years.

I lucked out and found a couple of wireless routers at the thrift store that are compatible with my provider for $5.00 each. One of them was D.O.A. but the other worked fine. Beats paying $75.00 (or more) for a new one.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:09:59am

re: #198 Bubblehead II

I lucked out and found a couple of wireless routers at the thrift store that are compatible with my provider for $5.00 each. One of them was D.O.A. but the other worked fine. Beats paying $75.00 (or more) for a new one.

Well, tweaking the DNS settings seems to have helped. Theoretically, the router should pass the WAN’s DNS to the LAN/WLAN, but it seems that wasn’t happening reliably. Now the home network points directly at the WLAN’s DNS addresses.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:15:36am

Still think I need a new router, though.

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ipsos  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:16:09am

re: #140 teleskiguy

I watched this over breakfast yesterday and nearly horked up my waffles.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:17:50am

Sigh. Another pointless witch hunt.

Watchdog group reportedly calls for probe of Clinton relationship with firm tied to son-in-law

According to Time magazine, the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust (FACT), plans to file a complaint with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics alleging that Clinton gave Neptune Minerals “special access to the State Department based upon the company’s relationships with Secretary Clinton’s family members and donors to the Clinton Foundation.”

After slogging through the story we get to the real beef.

“We believe that requests like this from anyone other than Goldman Sachs and her son-in-law were not passed along”

FACT Executive Director Matt Whitaker told Time, “so there was a preference given in her duty as Secretary of State in comparison to other requests.”

Uhhh, did anyone else EVEN make such a request or are these idiots just assuming someone did and was ignored? I’ll put my money on the latter.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:21:13am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, tweaking the DNS settings seems to have helped. Theoretically, the router should pass the WAN’s DNS to the LAN/WLAN, but it seems that wasn’t happening reliably. Now the home network points directly at the WLAN’s DNS addresses.

I’m still trying to figure out port forwarding so I can access my security cameras over the internet.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:24:14am

re: #203 Bubblehead II

I’m still trying to figure out port forwarding so I can access my security cameras over the internet.

I never grokked port forwarding myself. Two of my sons, though, could each probably set up my router in 15 minutes (if they could read Chinese, that is).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:27:59am

Here’s a story I won’t be sharing with my Listening Comprehension class.

Church Crackdown Continues in China

The Chinese government has ordered a church closed.

This week, Chinese police raided Huoshi Church. The church is the largest unregistered church in Guiyang, Guizhou province. After the raid, the church officially closed Thursday, lead pastor Su Tianfu Su said.

Su said the congregation is “very upset.” The pastor added that the church assists in charitable work and helps orphans, the sick and the elderly.

The latest crackdown started Wednesday when police raided morning services. Church members said that police searched the church and took audio and video equipment.

Guizhou province adjoins the province where I live.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:29:45am

re: #204 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I never grokked port forwarding myself. Two of my sons, though, could each probably set up my router in 15 minutes (if they could read Chinese, that is).

Last time I had to call the manufacture tech support to get it properly set up. Guess I should get off my lazy butt and call them again. This time I’ll take notes.

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:32:37am

Morning LGF!

If any of you could spare some cosmic power and send a little bit my way today, I’d appreciate it.

I have a nice interview for a contract job that could possibly be lucrative this morning. It’s for three months, with maybe an extension or even full time. The three months alone would be nice.

The last year has been pretty tough trying to line up freelance work. This could be a nice turn.

Thanks.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:34:39am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Sending all available good vibes your way.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:36:00am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Morning LGF!

If any of you could spare some cosmic power and send a little bit my way today, I’d appreciate it.

I have a nice interview for a contract job that could possibly be lucrative this morning. It’s for three months, with maybe an extension or even full time. The three months alone would be nice.

The last year has been pretty tough trying to line up freelance work. This could be a nice turn.

Thanks.

Best of luck!

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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:43:55am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Sending good thoughts!

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WhatEVs  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:51:29am

re: #207 ObserverArt

You’ll be in my thoughts all morning. I’ll send positive vibes your way!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:52:28am

heh

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2015 • 5:53:22am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Morning LGF!

If any of you could spare some cosmic power and send a little bit my way today, I’d appreciate it.

I have a nice interview for a contract job that could possibly be lucrative this morning. It’s for three months, with maybe an extension or even full time. The three months alone would be nice.

The last year has been pretty tough trying to line up freelance work. This could be a nice turn.

Thanks.

Best of luck!

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:03:10am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Apparently pointing out that Ted Cruz is a dispicable person hated by fellow Senators sends some to go to great lengths to claim that Obama is hated and has a huge ego. Projection worthy of IMAX.

Ted Cruz is loathed by Senate Republicans.

Cruz pushed a GOP shutdown costing the nation billions - and got nothing accomplished except worsening the national debt in the progress. That apparently is what counts as success for the GOP these days.

It also marks economic literacy for the GOP - doing something so blatantly stupid and ignorant that it’s full of sound and fury, but nothing actually fixed/resolved.

We see this with Trump and Fiorina - both of whom are lauded for “business experience” even though it includes running businesses into the ground and bankruptcies that shift the loss on to creditors.

Cruz sees himself as an outsider too, which is funny considering that he’s a US Senator who’s been around the Beltway for his entire professional life.

These are people divorced from reality - but they’re feeding off a constituency that is likewise divorced from reality courtesy of Fox News and a refusal to accept basic facts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:10:43am

re: #214 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Apparently pointing out that Ted Cruz is a dispicable person hated by fellow Senators sends some to go to great lengths to claim that Obama is hated and has a huge ego. Projection worthy of IMAX.

Ted Cruz is loathed by Senate Republicans.

Cruz pushed a GOP shutdown costing the nation billions - and got nothing accomplished except worsening the national debt in the progress. That apparently is what counts as success for the GOP these days.

It also marks economic literacy for the GOP - doing something so blatantly stupid and ignorant that it’s full of sound and fury, but nothing actually fixed/resolved.

We see this with Trump and Fiorina - both of whom are lauded for “business experience” even though it includes running businesses into the ground and bankruptcies that shift the loss on to creditors.

Cruz sees himself as an outsider too, which is funny considering that he’s a US Senator who’s been around the Beltway for his entire professional life.

These are people divorced from reality - but they’re feeding off a constituency that is likewise divorced from reality courtesy of Fox News and a refusal to accept basic facts.

There’s this meme about Ted Cruz and veterans that wingnuts are spreading:

What did Ted Cruz do for veterans? He built a cross out in the desert!

Meanwhile he refused to vote for increased veterans benefits because it was a bill introduced by Bernie Sanders==>

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:13:28am

Pathetic.

This is the cost of freedom that the gun rights folks keep touting. Lots of dead kids. And note that most of them are in the South, coinciding with the region with the most lax gun laws in the nation.

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:13:36am
“Let me see if I can slide into the nomination by sucking up to Donald”

Cruz being Cruz.

And thanks for the thoughts. I’m so freaking nervous.

(Deep Breaths…)

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:16:27am

re: #216 lawhawk

Pathetic.

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This is the cost of freedom that the gun rights folks keep touting. Lots of dead kids. And note that most of them are in the South, coinciding with the region with the most lax gun laws in the nation.

Look at all those dots in Central/Southern Ohio. So sad. So needless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:16:35am

re: #216 lawhawk

Pathetic.

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This is the cost of freedom that the gun rights folks keep touting. Lots of dead kids. And note that most of them are in the South, coinciding with the region with the most lax gun laws in the nation.

but hoverboards!

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:16:40am

re: #216 lawhawk

And this is the same information posted on a per capita basis.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:17:10am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

but hoverboards!

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Those are not hoverboards, they are little segways.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:23:12am

And apparently the most intolerant of the intolerant uncles (and aunts) become GOP candidates for the WH.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:31:54am

Israel continues to face attacks, using the mundane to inflict casualties. Forget kassams or mortars. Terrorists are now using motor vehicles, knives, and whatever else at their disposal to attack groups of Israelis.

The latest attack involved a car ramming a bus stop of people waiting to take the bus.

It’s just the latest in a long string of attacks and the Israeli government has no way to respond to this. There’s no peace process to speak of, and Netenyahu isn’t about to start one when Israelis are getting killed or injured regularly from terror attacks. There’s no indication that Abbas and the PA are willing to resume the peace process either, so everyone is willing to continue with the status quo where no one is happy.

It’s dysfunction and inertia all rolled into one. The only way it will break is when new leadership emerges on both sides and both are willing to take a chance for a breakthrough deal. I just don’t see that happening - on either side of the issue.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:32:48am

Welcome to the future imagined by the GOP.

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:40:41am

Yet another bit of news from Iowa of Cruz-luv:

FOX Poll: Ted Cruz Leads in Iowa Over Donald Trump

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danarchy  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:42:36am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

but hoverboards!

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Why are these things called hover boards… they have wheels, there is no hovering involved. They are rollerboards…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:43:00am

re: #226 danarchy

Why are these things called hover boards… they have wheels, there is no hovering involved. They are rollerboards…

I have no idea.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:44:14am

re: #214 lawhawk

Cruz sees sells himself as an outsider too, which is funny considering that he’s a US Senator who’s been around the Beltway for his entire professional life.

These are people divorced from reality - but they’re feeding off a constituency that is likewise divorced from reality courtesy of Fox News and a refusal to accept basic facts.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:46:00am

re: #226 danarchy

Why are these things called hover boards… they have wheels, there is no hovering involved. They are rollerboards…

Marketing ploy.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:47:21am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

Those are not hoverboards, they are little segways.

They’re little firebugs, considering the frequency at which they set fires to everything around them.

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danarchy  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:48:38am

re: #230 lawhawk

They’re little firebugs, considering the frequency at which they set fires to everything around them.

Apparently they are really good at causing head injuries and broken bones too.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:49:25am

re: #224 lawhawk

Welcome to the future imagined by the GOP.

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I’m firmly pro-choice, but it’s hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for someone who waited until 24 weeks along before attempting to do anything about an unwanted pregnancy.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:51:57am

re: #193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

PPPoE usually has some power injection happening along the path-could be your end, could be their end, could be a switch/router along the path, could even be the cable.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:52:09am

re: #232 sagehen

I’m firmly pro-choice, but it’s hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for someone who waited until 24 weeks along before attempting to do anything about an unwanted pregnancy.

I agree, but we live in a culture that does not promote sex education and often makes it very hard/expensive for a young person to see a doctor or trained professional. I’m willing to promote that this happens a lot less in countries with good sex ed/medical care (Sweden).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:52:33am

re: #232 sagehen

I’m firmly pro-choice, but it’s hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for someone who waited until 24 weeks along before attempting to do anything about an unwanted pregnancy.

Imagine that she tried but could to get access because pro lifers made it nearly impossible.

Not an excuse for her behavior, just putting it in perspective.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:53:52am
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danarchy  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:54:20am

re: #233 Eric The Fruit Bat

PPPoE usually has some power injection happening along the path-could be your end, could be their end, could be a switch/router along the path, could even be the cable.

You are thinking of PoE, PPPoE stands for point to point protocol over Ethernet and is most often used with DSL connections in my experience. No power injection involved.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:55:31am

re: #224 lawhawk

Welcome to the future imagined by the GOP.

And I’m sure the forced-birthers are lining up to adopt this baby….immiright?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:56:44am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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b.d.  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:57:29am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Way to go ahead and lower expectations there teabaggers.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 6:58:33am

Meanwhile, the Ohio AG’s office found no wrongdoing in Planned Parenthood regarding sales of fetal tissue (IOW, there were no sales), but they’re now claiming that PP isn’t disposing of the fetal tissue properly.

Except there’s nothing in state law that indicates how exactly they should dispose of fetal tissue and PP is complying with state rules on disposal of biohazard materials, which encompasses all human tissue.

It’s just another attempt by the anti-choice extremists to try and shut down PP by any means necessary.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:00:37am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve seen this argument all over the RWNJ derp-o-sphere. I don’t understand how anyone thinks that Ted Cruz will beat Hillary in a debate.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:01:23am

re: #241 lawhawk

Unfortunately the damage is done because our librul media helped aid the right-wing meme that PPFA is “trafficking baby parts”.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:02:08am

re: #232 sagehen

I’m firmly pro-choice, but it’s hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for someone who waited until 24 weeks along before attempting to do anything about an unwanted pregnancy.

There was probably twelve weeks of her panicking over what to do.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:04:18am

re: #242 Lidane

I’ve seen this argument all over the RWNJ derp-o-sphere. I don’t understand how anyone thinks that Ted Cruz will beat Hillary in a debate.

Although Ted Cruz is a synonymous with ‘smarmy asshole’, he is actually a good orator and debater. He was on the debate team in college. He’ll no doubt lose a debate on factual points, but he’ll come off as a prick and win with his base.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:05:15am

Sports Illustrated honors Serena Williams as sportsperson of the year, and yet there are folks angry that American Pharaoh didn’t get it because he’s the first triple crown winner in 40 years?

Tremendous achievements, but seriously, the horse isn’t offended. His owners are going to get compensated handsomely for putting him out to stud.

Human achievements come first IMO. Serena deserves it. End of story.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:06:08am

re: #242 Lidane

Hillary demolished the Benghazi pile on - 11 hours of testifying before a hostile audience. Do you really think she’d be rattled by Cruz? Doubt it, including the non-stop lying/smears he’s going to throw out there.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:07:16am

re: #233 Eric The Fruit Bat

PPPoE usually has some power injection happening along the path-could be your end, could be their end, could be a switch/router along the path, could even be the cable.

It seems to work better if I use my VPN, so I’m suspecting something is weird with the university’s DNS.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:07:33am

re: #245 Dr. Matt

Although Ted Cruz is a synonymous with ‘smarmy asshole’, he is actually a good orator and debater. He was on the debate team in college. He’ll no doubt lose a debate on factual points, but he’ll come off as a prick and win with his base.

You’re giving Cruz too much credit, especially after Hillary survived the Benghazi derpathon on live TV. There isn’t anything he could throw at her that would faze her at this point.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:07:54am

re: #246 lawhawk

Sports Illustrated honors Serena Williams as sportsperson of the year, and yet there are folks angry that American Pharaoh didn’t get it because he’s the first triple crown winner in 40 years?

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Tremendous achievements, but seriously, the horse isn’t offended. His owners are going to get compensated handsomely for putting him out to stud.

Human achievements come first IMO. Serena deserves it. End of story.

Are they ignoring the word sportsperson or willfully misinterpreting it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:09:43am

Hillary will crush Ted with 1 arm tied behind her back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:10:47am

re: #242 Lidane

I’ve seen this argument all over the RWNJ derp-o-sphere. I don’t understand how anyone thinks that Ted Cruz will beat Hillary in a debate.

He will cover his ears and pray out loud while she speaks…

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:11:06am

re: #249 Lidane

You’re giving Cruz too much credit, especially after Hillary survived the Benghazi derpathon on live TV. There isn’t anything he could throw at her that would faze her at this point.

I don’t think for a moment he could top Hillary or faze her in the least. Merely stating, for better or worse, that he has a talent for debate. He’s a used car salesman in an expensive suit with a 6 figure salary.

*no offense to car salesman*

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ipsos  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:11:15am

re: #245 Dr. Matt

Although Ted Cruz is a synonymous with ‘smarmy asshole’, he is actually a good orator and debater. He was on the debate team in college. He’ll no doubt lose a debate on factual points, but he’ll come off as a prick and win with his base.

It’s one thing (and no small accomplishment) to win college debate competitions at the level Cruz did.

But winning on points isn’t necessarily what presidential general election debating is all about. If Cruz wins the nomination, he’ll automatically have the 27% GOP base vote. The voters he’ll need to win over in debates are the mushy middle, the low-information crowd that may not know much about Cruz yet. If their first impression of him is “smarmy asshole,” that’s not going to go well in the general election.

Which is fine by me.

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:11:54am

Good morning Lizards. We got snow! Northern Utah is on lock down with 3-8 inches (so far) of snow with no signs of stopping. Hubby’s normal travel time to work is 25 minutes, today it’s 2 hours. He decided to take public transportation.

It’s about time!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:13:15am
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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:15:30am

Entitled Trump is entitled to waste as much water as he wants. Or so he wishes. And it’s bad, so blame Obama.

Guess he loves wasting water, and hates the fact that he has to pay for water he uses (NYC water fees are low, all things considered, but using water-saver fixtures saves you money in the long term).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:17:03am

re: #257 lawhawk

Entitled Trump is entitled to waste as much water as he wants. Or so he wishes. And it’s bad, so blame Obama.

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Guess he loves wasting water, and hates the fact that he has to pay for water he uses (NYC water fees are low, all things considered, but using water-saver fixtures saves you money in the long term).

Someone get baby Donald a baba, he’s tired.

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:17:13am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Good Luck!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:17:46am

re: #257 lawhawk

“You have showers where I can’t wash my hair properly,” he added. “It’s a disaster. “It’s true. They have restrictors put in. The problem is you stay under the shower for five times as long.”

Actually quote from the GOP leading candidate. How embarrassing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:18:39am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

Actually quote from the GOP leading candidate. How embarrassing.

And the GOP base loves it. So Bobby, how’s not being the stupid party working out for you guys? Not like you were doing anything to quell that notion.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:22:00am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

Actually quote from the GOP leading candidate. How embarrassing.

Trump stays under the shower five times as long because that’s how long it takes for him to wash the slime off his body!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:22:49am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

And the GOP base loves it. So Bobby, how’s not being the stupid party working out for you guys? Not like you were doing anything to quell that notion.

Trump supporters are almost most certainly the same people that claimed Obama was unqualified because he was just a “community organizer”, despite being a senator at the State and US levels. Yet, they are fanboys of a reality star who has never held a political office in his life. They actually are supporting a candidate whose first political office will be POTUS. That should scare the shit out of everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:23:28am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

Trump supporters are almost most certainly the same people that claimed Obama was unqualified because he was just a “community organizer”, despite being a senator at the State and US levels. Yet, they are fanboys of a reality star who has never held a political office in his life. They actually are supporting a candidate whose first political office will POTUS. That should scare the shit out of everyone.

I’m certain of that.

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b.d.  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:25:28am

NEVER FORGET!!

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:26:53am

re: #202 Bubblehead II

Sigh. Another pointless witch hunt.

Watchdog group reportedly calls for probe of Clinton relationship with firm tied to son-in-law

Gee—looking at their website, about 98% of their “investigations” are about Democrats (and about 80% of those are about Clinton.) And most of the head guy’s appearances are on Fox, NewsMax and the Blaze. Yeah, they’re definitely looking for “facts.”
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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:30:41am

Euphemism watch:

Georgia mayor dies during what police are calling a domestic dispute.

He was shot and killed with a bullet to the head. That’d be homicide. The mayor didn’t just stop and drop. He was killed.

And the local police call it a domestic disturbance but no one has been arrested. Wife? Girlfriend? Siblings? Children?

Another news outlet reports that the wife was home when the shooting happened.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:32:39am

re: #265 b.d.

NEVER FORGET!!

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Hey look ma, an asshole and a prick.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:33:18am
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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:35:31am
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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:39:14am

re: #270 Jenner7

Austin weather:

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Timothy Watson  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:42:22am

re: #270 Jenner7

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Something decided to go ahead and bloom in Virginia’s 70-degree temperatures and is killing my sinuses.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:42:29am

You-all saw this, right?
The Holy Quran Experiment

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:43:28am

re: #271 Lidane

Austin weather:

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It’s so cold here, it’s raining. We have a flood advisory.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:43:55am

re: #270 Jenner7

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Sure sign of the end times a-commin!

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:44:40am

re: #271 Lidane

That’s NYC metro area too. A few weeks ago we had a freeze warning. And since then it’s been above normal. Every day this month has been above normal - sometimes 10-15 above normal.

And this bodes poorly for reservoirs too, which get recharged from snowpack.

Of course, it also means that the spring flowers think it’s time to start peeking out - and I’ve got stuff blooming that should have died off (like geraniums that I didn’t take out after the freeze warning more than a month ago).

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:51:45am

I received a text this morning from a colleague in Michigan of an outside temperature of 56.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:54:54am

DAMN THAT GLOBAL WARMING!

Christmas is supposed to be WHITE!!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:58:54am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Almost like they are keeping out an out of control refugee.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 7:59:20am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

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Hey, we have the first ever of that type of theatre, right here, in Aurora, IL. The Paramount.

I was in another of it’s type recently. One that has a distinct place in history as it’s burning changed fire codes everywhere. The Oriental Theater.

I’ve been to a performance in the one in Detroit as well. All spectacles of visual heaven.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:01:20am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:01:50am

re: #178 Teukka

Oh boy, a new video against physical and sexual violence against women and girls is published, and some derps are already up in arms over it…
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IF YOU HAVEN’T, watch this!

Thanks for posting.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:03:06am

I was indundated with wingnuts this past week.

I was really good at keeping my mouth shut. (kind-of)

I just can’t stand the constant justification and rationalization of xenophobia and fear.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:04:29am

re: #276 lawhawk

That’s NYC metro area too. A few weeks ago we had a freeze warning. And since then it’s been above normal. Every day this month has been above normal - sometimes 10-15 above normal.

And this bodes poorly for reservoirs too, which get recharged from snowpack.

Of course, it also means that the spring flowers think it’s time to start peeking out - and I’ve got stuff blooming that should have died off (like geraniums that I didn’t take out after the freeze warning more than a month ago).

last couple of years, we’ve had the Spring flowers peek out only to be frozen and killed by a late snow fall.

Our Springs have been cold.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:05:10am

re: #226 danarchy

Why are these things called hover boards… they have wheels, there is no hovering involved. They are rollerboards…

Truth and marketing have never been good friends anyway.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:05:19am

I only hope the Michigan cherry crop is not decimated like it was in 2013.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:05:35am

Mattel releases a new Barbie that is flying off the shelves—for so many great reasons

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CuriousLurker  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:06:44am

re: #223 lawhawk

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Israel continues to face attacks, using the mundane to inflict casualties. Forget kassams or mortars. Terrorists are now using motor vehicles, knives, and whatever else at their disposal to attack groups of Israelis. […]

I can’t help but wonder if they’re learning from Da’esh’s tactics, which seem to be leaning increasingly towards lone wolf type attacks of opportunity. Disturbingly, they also seem to be reaching out to younger & younger audiences.

The main target for groups like Islamic State is said to be young people between 16 and 24 years old.

However the radicalisation process can start as early as 11 or 12, says Daniel Koehler, director of the German Institute on Radicalization and Deradicalization Studies (GIRDS).

Younger members are less valuable in terms of potential to carry out terror operations, he says, but they are used to spread ideology and influence others.

And they are easier to access. “Adolescents and teenagers are indeed easier to impress and lure into relationships with recruiters.” […]

bbc.com

Just when I think they’ve sunk as low as they can possibly go, they reach diabolical new depths of depravity.

The numbers are staggering too. They’re producing an average of 30-40 new videos daily in almost every language, and use an estimated 30,000-40,000 Twitter accounts.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:07:09am

In this season of giving, Turkey and Russia continue to exchange presents at high velocity.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:07:13am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My favourite?

During the Christmas season quite a while ago a man named Oliver was castrated by his wife.

The headline read: SHE DECKED THE HALLS WITH BALLS OF OLLIE!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:09:40am

re: #290 Romantic Heretic

My favourite?

During the Christmas season quite a while ago a man named Oliver was castrated by his wife.

The headline read: SHE DECKED THE HALLS WITH BALLS OF OLLIE!

I also like the highbrow numbers: a photo of Aristotle Onassis, who was in New York looking at properties to buy, one of which was an apartment once owned by actor Buster Keaton.

Headline: Aristotle Contemplating a Home of Buster

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:10:38am

re: #250 Belafon

Are they ignoring the word sportsperson or willfully misinterpreting it?

Hey, horses are good people.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:11:46am

re: #288 CuriousLurker

Those are staggering figures, and Twitter and law enforcement have to balance the need to track these accounts (to go after those involved) and shutting down the propaganda stream (since that’d be a TOS violation).

The shift from hub and spoke terrorism - with a plot cooked up by a central authority figure and then carried out by persons with direct contact was beginning to be supplanted by the lone wolf going back to the 2005-2009 period, particularly as AQ leadership had to seek refuge and couldn’t directly communicate with followers. After 9/11, the centralized terror plot became more and more an outlier in tactic. Daesh has taken this to a different level, as they’ve got wildly disconnected people pushing propaganda and seeking recruits all over the map. Lone wolf/radicalized individuals are the threat, and it’s far more difficult to fight and the tactics of those attacks are also all over the map.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:11:49am

re: #207 ObserverArt

Done.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:15:49am

re: #234 I Would Prefer Not To

I agree, but we live in a culture that does not promote sex education and often makes it very hard/expensive for a young person to see a doctor or trained professional. I’m willing to promote that this happens a lot less in countries with good sex ed/medical care (Sweden The rest of the developed world.).

FTFY.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:17:04am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

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I kinda like it. Reminds me of the Akron Civic Theater where we saw Rob Thomas earlier in the summer. A real throwback theater.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:23:35am

re: #296 Eventual Carrion

I kinda like it. Reminds me of the Akron Civic Theater where we saw Rob Thomas earlier in the summer. A real throwback theater.

I recall going to see “The Green Berets” at the Palace Theater in Gary with my mom…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:25:16am

KITTY!

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:29:48am

re: #246 lawhawk

Sports Illustrated honors Serena Williams as sportsperson of the year, and yet there are folks angry that American Pharaoh didn’t get it because he’s the first triple crown winner in 40 years?

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Tremendous achievements, but seriously, the horse isn’t offended. His owners are going to get compensated handsomely for putting him out to stud.

Human achievements come first IMO. Serena deserves it. End of story.

If the title is “Sportsperson”… doesn’t that automatically disqualify, y’know, not-persons?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:32:41am

re: #299 sagehen

If the title is “Sportsperson”… doesn’t that automatically disqualify, y’know, not-persons?

I visited Claiborne Farms a while back.

Yes, those studs make enough money to live in grand style.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:33:10am

re: #299 sagehen

If the title is “Sportsperson”… doesn’t that automatically disqualify, y’know, not-persons?

That depends if the reader considers women of any color to be persons.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:33:12am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recall going to see “The Green Berets” at the Palace Theater in Gary with my mom…

The only play I remember attending with my parents (other than school plays) was Under the Yum Yum tree at the Youngstown Playhouse. McLean Stevenson (M.A.S.H. fame) had the lead role. Very good, funny play.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:34:47am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:35:43am

because, everyone needs some cute in their day

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:38:22am

Husband still trying to get to work…..

At this rate, I won’t see him until midnight. Heh.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:40:56am

re: #304 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I see your cute and raise you a corgi:

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:42:46am
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danarchy  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:43:33am

re: #299 sagehen

If the title is “Sportsperson”… doesn’t that automatically disqualify, y’know, not-persons?

Apparently not if you are Time magazine choosing a person of the year, but Sports Illustrated has always chosen either a person or team of people. The last time a horse won the Triple crown, the jockey who rode him was named sportsman of the year.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:44:02am

re: #246 lawhawk

Sports Illustrated honors Serena Williams as sportsperson of the year, and yet there are folks angry that American Pharaoh didn’t get it because he’s the first triple crown winner in 40 years?

Tremendous achievements, but seriously, the horse isn’t offended. His owners are going to get compensated handsomely for putting him out to stud.

Human achievements come first IMO. Serena deserves it. End of story.

I imagine the commenters at Dead Breitbart are showing the usual level of class.

//

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:45:45am

Still nothing from the Ginger Avenger. That makes five days now. Something’s gotta be up. Or down, as the case may be.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:46:35am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

Actually quote from the GOP leading candidate. How embarrassing.

That’s actually among The Donald’s classiest statements so far.

/

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KingKenrod  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:49:28am

re: #310 Charles Johnson

Still nothing from the Ginger Avenger. That makes five days now. Something’s gotta be up. Or down, as the case may be.

Maybe his “lawyers” told him to STFU. Or his habit of mooching off strangers caught up to him.

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:58:37am

Sure, that makes sense:

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 8:59:15am

Just love that contented feeling you get when dinner is prepared and all you have to do is put it in the oven at the proper time.

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:06:07am
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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:06:44am

That sound you hear is the RNC going DEFCON 1:

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:08:08am

re: #271 Lidane

So, in other words, a normal winter in Texas.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:10:17am

re: #315 Jenner7

NEW Monmouth nat’l: On debate eve, Trump has a 27-point lead. Trump 41 Cruz 14 Rubio 10 Carson 9 Bush 3 Kasich 3
— Rebecca Sinderbrand

I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:10:54am

re: #316 Lidane

That sound you hear is the RNC going DEFCON 1:

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I am no longer surprised. 40% in a big field is something.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:11:50am

re: #313 Lidane

Santorum super PAC

I’d be interested in meeting these people. Anyone who sets money on fire like this…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:12:04am

re: #313 Lidane

Sure, that makes sense:

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Rick, do you know what a world war actually is or are you again showing Penn State wasted money accepting you as a student? Okay, I see it’s his SuperPAC but my pont still remains, these people have no idea what makes a world war a world war.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:14:04am

Here are a week away from the first day of winter and Trump has actually increased his strength since the summer. GOP establishment should be very afraid. I have no sympathy for them at all.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:16:02am

re: #316 Lidane

That sound you hear is the RNC going DEFCON 1:

I wonder if Rand Paul is thinking of jumping in this race?

//

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:16:10am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Here are a week away from the first day of winter and Trump has actually increased his strength since the summer. GOP establishment should be very afraid. I have no sympathy for them at all.

Especially since, as we’ve seen with D_F, it will take them 0 seconds to pivot to supporting him.

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wrenchwench  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:17:13am

re: #289 lawhawk

In this season of giving, Turkey and Russia continue to exchange presents at high velocity.

[Russian destroyer fires warning shots at Turkish ship in the Aegean Sea]

I’ve been on a Turkish ship in the Aegean Sea. It was about as big as the one in the foreground there. No shots were fired. (Jan. 1980)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:17:29am

re: #323 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder if Rand Paul is thinking of jumping in this race?

//

Slightly more seriously, I wonder if Romney is fielding calls?

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:18:47am

Reminder. This is the same GOP field that has pledged to support Trump if he wins the nomination.

So, if Trump wins with the bat crap insanities that he utters on a daily basis, the GOP has agreed that he’s their guy. That goes for his fellow candidates. They can’t distance themselves from any of Trump’s crazy. They’ve chosen not to.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:20:56am

re: #324 Belafon

Especially since, as we’ve seen with D_F, it will take them 0 seconds to pivot to supporting him.

Yes I expect the line will be something that Trump is a lesser evil than Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:21:20am

re: #327 lawhawk

Reminder. This is the same GOP field that has pledged to support Trump if he wins the nomination.

So, if Trump wins with the bat crap insanities that he utters on a daily basis, the GOP has agreed that he’s their guy. That goes for his fellow candidates. They can’t distance themselves from any of Trump’s crazy. They’ve chosen not to.

Exactly.

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Teukka  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:21:44am

Todays “I’m not making this shit up, really”:
Solar Farm Rejected Amid Fears It Will ‘Suck Up The Sun’s Energy’

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:23:23am

re: #330 Teukka

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:23:34am

re: #330 Teukka

Todays “I’m not making this shit up, really”:
Solar Farm Rejected Amid Fears It Will ‘Suck Up The Sun’s Energy’

Gah people are stupid sometimes.

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:24:09am

President Obama going to make a statement on ISIS strategy…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:26:26am

re: #333 Jenner7

President Obama going to make a statement on ISIS strategy…

and unless it involves nuking them the GOP will throw their usual tantrum. Hell, even if he did threaten to nuke them the GOP would throw a tantrum.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:27:53am

re: #334 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and unless it involves nuking them the GOP will throw their usual tantrum. Hell, even if he did threaten to nuke them the GOP would throw a tantrum.

He didn’t promise to sodomize their corpses, clearly this president does not care about terrorism. //

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:31:38am

re: #331 lawhawk

Worse really is the comment from his wife, who remains unconvinced that solar panels don’t cause cancer.

Jane Mann said she is a local native and is concerned about the plants that make the community beautiful.

She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer.

“I want to know what’s going to happen,” she said.

This is one of those cases where context doesn’t necessarily help.

Some of the other concerns residents raised are more NIMBY-type, which I can get, but these two nuts are …special. And were apparently quite vocal.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:33:45am

Any updates on the raging ginger furby? Still MIA?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:34:42am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

Any updates on the raging ginger furby? Still MIA?

Yeah appears so. Good riddance.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:34:44am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

Any updates on the raging ginger furby? Still MIA?

I think Charles posted up thread he’s been MIA for 5 days now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:36:25am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:37:49am
Serena Williams or American Pharoah: Who’s the real sportsperson of 2015? Vote in our poll t.co pic.twitter.com
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) December 14, 2015

Call me silly, but isn’t the imperative term sportsperson?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:39:05am

re: #341 Dr. Matt

Call me silly, but isn’t the imperative term sportsperson?

To a logical human being, yes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:39:50am

re: #341 Dr. Matt

Call me silly, but isn’t the imperative term sportsperson?

Horses are people too my friend.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:40:33am

re: #299 sagehen

If the title is “Sportsperson”… doesn’t that automatically disqualify, y’know, not-persons?

“Sports Night” addressed this in Episode 8 of Season 2, when they were trying to determine who to name as Sportsperson of the Millenium. When Secretariat was mentioned the conversation went like this:

Jeremy: “When he died, they did an autopsy, you know what they found?”

Dan: “Unless you say Jesse Owens you’re not going to win this argument”

Jeremy: “They found his heart was twice the size of a normal one.”

Casey: “Secretariat died of an enlarged heart?”

Jeremy: “No, I’m saying he had the heart of a champion!”

Natalie: “And I’m saying he had the heart of a horse.”

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:42:02am

And Ted Cruz will repeal every single word of Serena’s sportsperson of the year award.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:44:35am

re: #315 Jenner7

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I’m old enough to remember when Trump said, “What the hell is Monmouth? I only like polls that treat me well.”

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:47:18am

BTW, the SI Sportsperson of the Year has always been a person or persons and never an animal: en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:50:57am

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Am I too sensitive if my first reaction to Serena’s picture is it looks like the cover of a rap album? Shouldn’t an athlete’s SI cover shot look like they’re in the middle of doing what they got the award for?

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:51:09am

re: #347 Dr. Matt

Steve Cauthen is the only jockey to win the SI sportsperson of the year, and that was for riding Affirmed (the last Triple Crown winner). Note Secretariat didn’t win in 1973. Nor did his jockey.

This is a controversy ginned up by some horse racing fanatic on Twitter whose twitter feed has gone predictably racist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:51:38am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:51:53am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:52:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:53:07am

And meanwhile Baby Snidely Whiplash of the Corn says this==>

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gwangung  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:53:29am

re: #348 sagehen

Am I too sensitive if my first reaction to Serena’s picture is it looks like the cover of a rap album? Shouldn’t an athlete’s SI cover shot look like they’re in the middle of doing what they got the award for?

That’s what more than a few people said.

On the other hand, she’s gotten more than her share of “she looks like a man” and “looks more like an animal than a woman” comments, so that might play into that.

Either way, I like the attitude she’s sporting there…

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Lidane  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:55:30am

re: #326 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Slightly more seriously, I wonder if Romney is fielding calls?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:56:15am

re: #355 Lidane

Romney is a raging liberal compared to this current crop of extremists.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:57:06am

re: #355 Lidane

I’m waiting for the “Miss Me, Yet” Romney memes to start floating, especially as Trump continues to suck the life out of the rest of the field as every racist and hateful utterance results in higher polling among GOPers, even as head to head matchups continue to show Hillary (or Bernie) leading against the GOP field.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:57:08am

re: #348 sagehen

Am I too sensitive if my first reaction to Serena’s picture is it looks like the cover of a rap album? Shouldn’t an athlete’s SI cover shot look like they’re in the middle of doing what they got the award for?

Story on Think Progress said the idea for the Cover was from Serena. I’m paraphrasing, but it was her representation of her femeninity(is that a word?), and power.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:58:17am

Trailer Alert.

Star Trek Beyond. Opens next July.

Star Trek Beyond - Trailer (2016) - Paramount Pictures

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It's on his hat!  Dec 14, 2015 • 9:59:45am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trailer Alert.

Star Trek Beyond. Opens next July.

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It’s really sad that I’m no longer in the target demographic for a Star Trek property.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:01:32am

bbl

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Archangelus  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:03:52am

re: #316 Lidane

That sound you hear is the RNC going DEFCON 1:

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The GOP establishment reaction:
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking…

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:04:58am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Click to Reveal

Yet another Enterprise gets destroyed. What a surprise. And who’s doing the attacking? Stargate: Atlantis Wraiths? Reimagined Jem’Hadar?

A new species entirely?

And since we’re on new movies in 2016, Independence Day dropped a new trailer too. Lots of explosions, and this time, the bad aliens are back even as the world began prepping for their return.

Independence Day: Resurgence | Official Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

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Jenner7  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:05:00am

Gotta clean house….bbl.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:06:17am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trailer Alert.

Star Trek Beyond. Opens next July.Video

Whut? Seriously?

re: #360 It’s on his hat!

It’s really sad that I’m no longer in the target demographic for a Star Trek property.

What he said.

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It's on his hat!  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:08:50am

re: #365 Bird in the Paw

Whut? Seriously?

What he said.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll probably still see and enjoy this movie, but it doesn’t seem like Star Trek to me. I hope the trailer has been Fast and Furious-ified to appeal to the “right” demo and that the film has more substance than it lets on.

I do like that this trailer spoiled virtually nothing of the plot.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:08:57am

re: #363 lawhawk

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And since we’re on new movies in 2016, Independence Day dropped a new trailer too. Lots of explosions, and this time, the bad aliens are back even as the world began prepping for their return.

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Video

Is that the entire original cast?

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:10:18am

re: #367 sagehen

Is that the entire original cast?

Will Smith isn’t in it, and the adult version of the president’s daughter is not the same actress. But a lot of the original main characters are in it.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:10:34am

re: #357 lawhawk

Dear @GOP

Pretty darned close:

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:10:55am

re: #367 sagehen

It appears as though Will Smith isn’t in it. There’s some possibility he returns in some fashion, but the website the producers set up seems to indicate that his character died before the events in the film occur.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:10:57am

re: #366 It’s on his hat!

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll probably still see and enjoy this movie, but it doesn’t seem like Star Trek to me. I hope the trailer has been Fast and Furious-ified to appeal to the “right” demo and that the film has more substance than it lets on.

I do like that this trailer spoiled virtually nothing of the plot.

I will hold off on judgement. I like your attitude and hope, but. That was not Star Trek.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:11:40am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

And meanwhile Baby Snidely Whiplash of the Corn says this==>

Oh, so now Baby Ben cares about mass shooting victims?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:13:03am

re: #372 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, so now Baby Ben cares about mass shooting victims?

Only if he can put the blame on Obama (or Hillary)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:13:03am

re: #341 Dr. Matt

Serena Williams or American Pharoah: Who’s the real sportsperson of 2015? Vote in our poll t.co pic.twitter.com
— Los Angeles Times

You had one job…..

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Archangelus  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:13:15am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trailer Alert.

Star Trek Beyond. Opens next July.

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Video

In a word, Oy.
A better title would be something along the lines of Star Thing: 2 Trek 2 Furious…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:13:20am

re: #370 lawhawk

It appears as though Will Smith isn’t in it. There’s some possibility he returns in some fashion, but the website the producers set up seems to indicate that his character died before the events in the film occur.

They better cook up a damned good set of events to kill off his character. That character was over the top. Can’t be weak sauce in his death.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:15:16am

re: #375 Archangelus

In a word, Oy.
A better title would be something along the lines of Star Thing: 2 Trek 2 Furious…

I’ll hold off on judgement. Let’s face it; the original TV series could be pretty goofy from time to time as well. Space hippies? Melvin Belli? A giant floating head in space?

We’ll see. But I did notice one thing right away - one of the characters in the trailer looked sort of like a Jem’Hadar warrior.

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Oblongatis  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:15:17am

re: #179 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It is happening, my 15 yr. old has a school furnished high end I-pad. Not many of his texts books are on it but his homework is done on it and electronically transferred. All of his teaches post all his assignments, study guides and other communications.

The only thing we had to pay for was a $50 annual insurance in case he breaks it.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:15:32am

re: #376 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’ve read that he was testing the first new hybrid alien/human fighter spacecraft to protect against possible alien invasion when some kind of glitch occurred.

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Archangelus  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:16:54am

re: #370 lawhawk

It appears as though Will Smith isn’t in it. There’s some possibility he returns in some fashion, but the website the producers set up seems to indicate that his character died before the events in the film occur.

Yup, seems pretty much a done deal…

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Danack  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:18:38am

re: #370 lawhawk

It appears as though Will Smith isn’t in it. There’s some possibility he returns in some fashion, but the website the producers set up seems to indicate that his character died before the events in the film occur.

He’s not listed in the Full Cast & Crew

Seeing as apparently he was asking for too much money than the films backers were prepared to pay, I would be very surprised if he was actually in the film.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:18:55am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:19:52am

re: #379 lawhawk

I’ve read that he was testing the first new hybrid alien/human fighter spacecraft to protect against possible alien invasion when some kind of glitch occurred.

Lies! False Flag! Hoax! Steven Hiller never existed in the first place! He’s a crisis actor!!!

///

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:22:00am

Hahaha. Post of the day:

AliasTheAlias 18 hours ago
You killed off Will Smith’s character on a viral site? OH HELL NO

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allegro  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:24:55am

re: #381 Danack

He’s not listed in the Full Cast & Crew

Seeing as apparently he was asking for too much money than the films backers were prepared to pay, I would be very surprised if he was actually in the film.

That’s a bummer. I seriously loves me some Jeff Goldblum but it was Will Smith who made that movie fun. Hope they can fill that hole in the sequel.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:25:06am

re: #380 Archangelus

Yup, seems pretty much a done deal…

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Damn, the black dude died before the movie even started.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:31:38am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trailer Alert.

Star Trek Beyond. Opens next July.

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Another Abramsverse film, another film where they utterly wreck the Enterprise. You know, it was shocking when they did that in Star Trek III, now it’s becoming a cliche.

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Archangelus  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:32:28am

re: #381 Danack

He’s not listed in the Full Cast & Crew

Seeing as apparently he was asking for too much money than the films backers were prepared to pay, I would be very surprised if he was actually in the film.

I’m guessing Smith’s lack of involvement in the new movie had more to do with what i’m assuming were failed discussions over his insistence that his son, Jaden “Can’t Act One Bit” Smith, be in the movie in a major role (probably as his character’s son, now played by a different actor)..

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:34:07am

re: #387 Targetpractice

Another Abramsverse film, another film where they utterly wreck the Enterprise. You know, it was shocking when they did that in Star Trek III, now it’s becoming a cliche.

When the Enterprise was destroyed in Star Trek III, it was for a good reason, and it was very well-done, almost a genuinely emotional moment.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 14, 2015 • 10:46:24am

re: #382 jaunte

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We cheered him with Tang and Space Food Sticks!

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William Lewis  Dec 14, 2015 • 11:10:50am

re: #389 Dr Lizardo

When the Enterprise was destroyed in Star Trek III, it was for a good reason, and it was very well-done, almost a genuinely emotional moment.

Frankly one of the finest moments in an otherwise meh movie. Especially as they watched her burn in the atmosphere.

The arrival back at Earth at the beginning was a shocker too - the damage inflicted on the crew of cadets in what was peacetime by Khan was brought home.


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