John McCain Was Horribly Dissed by Trump. Now He's Supporting Trump.

John McCain Was Horribly Dissed by Trump. Now He’s Supporting Trump.

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PoliticsJune 2016 • Views: 48,970

This is why I could never be a politician.

Donald Trump infamously insulted Senator John McCain to the very core of his being with a grotesque statement about McCain’s time as a prisoner of war (during which he was mercilessly tortured): “I like people that weren’t captured.”

And now here’s John McCain pathetically supporting Donald Trump for president of the United States, a position he once ran for himself, because otherwise he might get ousted from his Senate seat by the loons in his own state.

TUCSON, Ariz. — Senator John McCain does not say much these days about Donald J. Trump’s attack on his five-plus years as a prisoner of war. Instead, he clenches his teeth and says he will support the Republican Party’s presumptive nominee, who once said derisively about the senator’s time in captivity, “I like people that weren’t captured.”

In the triple-digit swelter here in Arizona, his home state, Mr. McCain, who was the Republicans’ presidential nominee and standard-bearer in 2008, did not openly bemoan this moment from his long political life. He is focusing on what he considers his toughest re-election fight yet, and is betting that the only way to keep his seat is to support Mr. Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 6:35:39pm

My shocked face:

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 4, 2016 • 6:35:44pm

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 6:37:08pm

The lemmings are all lining up for their swan dive.

PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 6:38:01pm

re: #3 thedopefishlives

Except they do not think it is a swan dive.

Targetpractice Jun 4, 2016 • 6:38:58pm

The modern GOP seems to be suffering a collective case of Battered Spouse Syndrome. “Yeah, he’s an evil bastard who beats and berates me constantly, but I still love him!”

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 6:39:05pm

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

Except they do not think it is a swan dive.

No, but then, they don’t think at all.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 6:39:33pm

Hundreds petition to ‘knock out’ Confederate monument at Louisville campus with Muhammad Ali statue

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 6:40:10pm

McCain is openly supporting a draft dodger who publicly mocks him for not being killed instead of surrendering?

bratwurst Jun 4, 2016 • 6:41:14pm

Keep in mind that this is the same John McCain who embraced and endorsed George W. Bush even after that campaign push-polled voters in South Carolina about the senator’s non-existent illegitimate black child.

Perhaps McCain is some kind of masochist. Personally, I think he is so hungry for power and status he is willing to do anything, including unleashing Sarah Palin on an unsuspecting nation.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 6:41:40pm

re: #8 b.d.

McCain is openly supporting a draft dodger who publicly mocks him for not being killed instead of surrendering?

Remember, this is the guy who thought running with Caribou Barbie was a good idea. I’m not really sold on his level of intelligence.

nines09 Jun 4, 2016 • 6:41:48pm

What Senator McCain is actually doing is pissing on the Vets. The vets who came back with pieces and parts missing. The ones who lost their families while serving. The ones who didn’t come back. And the ones who were POW. That black POW flag flies everywhere. There are some words on it. Trump just pissed all over it. Made it a lie. And he has an American flag lapel pin, just like the others who have to wear a flag pin to prove they are patriotic or freedom loving or whatever fucked up reason they need to reassure their sorry asses they care. They do not. And all Ambian Johnny can do is get in line to eat some Cheetos. Kiss that ass Johnny. Kiss it. Fuck off. Just fuck off. I’m all out of fucks.

KGxvi Jun 4, 2016 • 6:41:49pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

The modern GOP seems to be suffering a collective case of Battered Spouse Syndrome. “Yeah, he’s an evil bastard who beats and berates me constantly, but I still love him!”

More like “Yeah, he’s an evil bastard who beats and berates me constantly, but he’s still better than ~~the other guy~~ experimenting with a woman

Skip Intro Jun 4, 2016 • 6:42:52pm

re: #9 bratwurst

Sarah Palin is proof enough that McCain will do anything to get power. A man with no shame.

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 4, 2016 • 6:43:14pm

Mccain needs to get out of politics and in to an assisted living home. I thank him for his service but he is WAY past his sell by date.

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 6:44:39pm

re: #13 Skip Intro

Sarah Palin is proof enough that McCain will do anything to get power. A man with no shame.

re: #10 thedopefishlives

Remember, this is the guy who thought running with Caribou Barbie was a good idea. I’m not really sold on his level of intelligence.

Has Sarah endorsed McCain’s (presumably) tea-bagger primary opponent yet?

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 6:45:06pm

‘I’m from the Vatican, you’re f*****’: Church of England vicar in bizarre drunken brawl with police and paramedics

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 4, 2016 • 6:45:19pm

I REALLY hope Trumps pick Palin as his running mate, let this completely fucking go up in flames and (hopefully) teach the GOP a lesson.

Targetpractice Jun 4, 2016 • 6:45:51pm

The media has been going on for weeks now about how Hillary will “unite” the party behind her now that Bernie is on his way out and how she’s going to have to work hard to win over his supporters.

Meanwhile, Trump is forcing every single person who he berated and belittled to kneel and his ass…er, ring and the media treats this as if it’s totally normal.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 6:45:54pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

I REALLY hope Trump pick Palin as his running mate, let this completely fucking go up in flames and (hopefully) teach the GOP a lesson.

Trump, pick a woman? Not bloody likely. It’d ruin his image with his new-found fans.

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 4, 2016 • 6:46:04pm

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Soon to be FORMER Church of England Vicar I imagine.

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 4, 2016 • 6:46:43pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

Trump, pick a woman? Not bloody likely. It’d ruin his image with his new-found fans.

Maybe he could pick Todd Palin.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 4, 2016 • 6:46:56pm

re: #3 thedopefishlives

The lemmings are all lining up for their swan dive.

Mom: “so, if everyone is jumping, you would too???”

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 6:47:51pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mom: “so, if everyone is jumping, you would too???”

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Best reply I ever heard to that:

“If all of my friends were jumping off a bridge, I’d assume they have a damn good reason. So, yes, if they all jumped off a bridge, I absolutely would jump.”

majii Jun 4, 2016 • 6:48:07pm

That McCain can endorse Trump after Trump attacked his military service and POW status during the Vietnam War tells me that McCain values keeping his seat in Congress above all else. This also tells me that he’s been lying for many years when he has claimed to care about A, B, C, and/or D. All he really cares about is himself. If I were him and had spent so many years in Congress and were going to be 80 this August, I’d want to spend my remaining years concentrating on crossing things off my bucket list.

teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 6:48:15pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

I REALLY hope Trump pick Palin as his running mate, let this completely fucking go up in flames and (hopefully) teach the GOP a lesson.

I think he’s going to pick Rick Scott or Chris Christie. I don’t see The Donald™ making his number one a woman.

Targetpractice Jun 4, 2016 • 6:48:16pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mom: “so, if everyone is jumping, you would too???”

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

“I wouldn’t just jump, I’d do a belly flop!”

ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 6:49:02pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

I REALLY hope Trump pick Palin as his running mate, let this completely fucking go up in flames and (hopefully) teach the GOP a lesson.

Or Rick Scott and then we can have the Completely Crooked Con Ticket.

I bet they wouldn’t even be shy about it.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 6:49:39pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mom: “so, if everyone is jumping, you would too???”

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Obligatory.

majii Jun 4, 2016 • 6:49:52pm

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes, because nothing says a guy is affiliated with the Vatican and has diplomatic immunity like being employed by the Church of England.

Reality Based Steve Jun 4, 2016 • 6:52:07pm

re: #29 majii

Yes, because nothing says a guy is affiliated with the Vatican and has diplomatic immunity like being employed by the Church of England.

He’s a secret undercover vicar. You know, like Padre Bond.

RBS

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 6:54:06pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

The modern GOP seems to be suffering a collective case of Battered Spouse Syndrome. “Yeah, he’s an evil bastard who beats and berates me constantly, but I still love him!”

It’s a gang mentality. Look at D_F, no matter how godawful it gets he’s literally incapable of conceiving of a life outside the Republican Party.

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 4, 2016 • 6:56:40pm

These are the people that specifically go out of their way to posture about how they’ll fight against tyranny, big government, and protect freedom.

I have a big mouth, but this is getting scary. What we’ve learned this year is that even the folks we thought had principles—nasty principles that involved cutting out chunks of citizenry—don’t. God, freedom, rights…these are things that can be redefined, as long as power is retained. Where’s the bottom on the process we see happening? It’s not as though Trump voters will disappear. In two years, they’ll be a harder push to tickle their fancy…because they’re still a big juicy bloc with understandable needs. In four years, we might have a nightmarish alloy of Trump insanity and good organization.

The pushback is feeble because the pushback can’t be seen as running to the left of Trump. Heck, many of his positions can’t be criticized because they’re GOP positions, stately briefly and dramatically.

The problem is well beyond needing at least two functioning parties at this point: it about one party that is functional enough as a funding machine and a propaganda wing, but has lost control of its messaging to a nationalist/populist espousing incoherent economics (with a heavy emphasis on Bad Brown People Stealing Shit), incoherent foreign policy (with a heavy emphasis on Bad Brown People Not Giving Respect…and Stealing Shit), an incoherent legislative agenda (with a heavy emphasis on Bad Brown People getting less rights), et cetera.

What’s scary is how much of the GOP is working rather than bucking this trend given how Trump is all the things they insist they aren’t, and all the policy areas where Trump has completely contradicted them.

Best case scenario…Trump is a liar or a pawn? Is that the level of principle involved in this election? Back a candidate with no intention of enacting his promises, and substituting exactly the shit that allowed his “outside” platform to dominate? There is no upshot here.

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 6:57:19pm

The head of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico slammed the Sanders campaign on Saturday for accusing it of unfairly denying poll workers access to prisons to help inmates vote.

…

Prats also said that certifying poll workers is out of the hands of the party and that the Sanders campaign did not allow much time before they began accusing the party of fraud.

“Inmate voting is handled not by the Democratic Party but by the Commonwealth’s Absentee and Advance Vote Administrative Board,” Prats said. “I have been told that the Sanders campaign submitted their prison pollworker list at 6:10 pm on the evening prior to inmate voting and began complaining early in the following morning that the Board had not completed their pollworker’s certification. But in the end, despite the late submittal, the Sanders campaign had representatives at the prison voting places.”

He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.

nines09 Jun 4, 2016 • 6:57:45pm

re: #24 majii

Senator McCain is a representative. Of people. He is, by nature of his service, a representative of Veterans. Little people. Damaged people. Hurt people. By allowing what Trump said to not only stand, but to actively support Trump as his Commander In Chief? Commander In Chief of Veterans who served? Unexcusable. McCain is taking a public dump on the very people who he should be protecting and serving. He is supposed to be the voice they do not have. His actions are inexcusable. He has lost not only face, but his fucking mind. What little respect I had for him is GONE. His brothers in arms deserve better than a mealy mouthed self serving sycophant. Time to go home Johnny. Time to go home and reflect on what you just did. JFC. Go bomb Iran Johnny. Put some boots on the ground. Play hard, hard guy. Then if there are any POWs, just tell them they are LOSERS.
Goodnight. Oh, and Johnny? Fuck. Off.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 6:57:55pm

re: #30 Reality Based Steve

He’s a secret undercover vicar. You know, like Padre Bond.

RBS

Or Guy Fawkes?

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 6:58:19pm

Good news from the Virgin Islands. ABC says Clinton wins the caucus. Details TK.

abcnews.go.com

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 6:59:44pm

ABC reports Clinton has won the Virgin Island caucuses. https://t.co/tTVH0KOh05

— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) June 5, 2016

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 6:59:53pm

If McCain has to pretend to embrace Trump to win his primary then he is going to lose.

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:00:55pm

re: #36 Brian J.

Good news from the Virgin Islands. ABS says Clinton wins the caucus. Details TK.

abcnews.go.com

Commence the BernieBro’ing of the Virgin Islands.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 7:00:56pm

Just heard that Norway will ban new sales of fuel cars in 2025. What an amazingly awesome country. You guys rock!! pic.twitter.com/uAXuBkDYuR

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 3, 2016

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:02:14pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Tesla’s already been Norway’s #1 selling car.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 4, 2016 • 7:06:59pm

re: #39 b.d.

Commence the BernieBro’ing of the Virgin Islands.

It’s southern…

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 7:07:28pm

Welcome to the low-info South, Virgin Islands. pic.twitter.com/JkenmL27Y3

— Hank Moody (@VeteranGator) June 5, 2016

ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 7:11:06pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

He also accused the Sanders campaign of stealing two boxes of ballots that had been cast by prisoners before delivering them to an election office.

Just more passionate supporters helping the revolution!

Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 4, 2016 • 7:15:03pm

I always get a “But what if something amazing had happened?” moment when I turn down a night out then I remember how nice books & bed are.

— Tom Cox (@cox_tom) June 4, 2016

Pretty much my feelings about Saturday nights nowadays.

Bed and a book calling to me, as rain falls musically on my house’s metal roof.

niterz, lizardz!

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 7:15:15pm

Whoa!

With the margins on St John, unconfirmed, Sanders will be JUST below threshold for Viability. Depends on what the margins were on St. Thomas

— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) June 5, 2016

Possible delegate sweep in the offing.

jaunte Jun 4, 2016 • 7:16:00pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s weird that the Norwegian headlines are allllmost readable.

PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 7:16:04pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Enjoy your book and have a good night.

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:16:37pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

Whoa!

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Possible delegate sweep in the offing.

Four delegates depend on the combined totals from St. Thomas (reportedly Clinton 681 to 50) and St. John (reportedly Sanders narrowly, 102 total votes). Three come from St. Croix.

jaunte Jun 4, 2016 • 7:23:36pm

How can conservatives not see that Trump’s attack on Judge Curiel is an assault on the rule of law & even on what it means to be American?
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) June 5, 2016

Some epic meltdowns going around the conservo-interwebs. They can’t come to grips with what they have let happen Still in denial. Blame game
— Bill (@tomservo10) June 5, 2016

William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 7:24:13pm

re: #47 jaunte

It’s weird that the Norwegian headlines are allllmost readable.

Not really wierd -

Norwegian (norsk) is a North Germanic language spoken mainly in Norway, where it is the official language.

as wiki puts it. A glance at the English Language article shows

English is a West Germanic language that was first spoken in early medieval England and is now a global lingua franca

We’ve stolen a lot of words from Celtic & romance languages (especially Welsh, Latin and French) but at it’s soul English is just another Germanic language like Norwegian and more similar than not.

Reality Based Steve Jun 4, 2016 • 7:24:15pm

re: #47 jaunte

It’s weird that the Norwegian headlines are allllmost readable.

Oh, that’s Norwegian. I was more than a bit concerned for a minute.

RBS

majii Jun 4, 2016 • 7:25:13pm

re: #38 b.d.

In the 40+ years I’ve been interested in politics, I haven’t seen a bigger group of cowards than those in the GOP/TP. Not one of the party’s leaders has the integrity to stand up and say that the party is headed in the wrong direction. It’s as if it’s every man/woman for himself is what the party stands for today. Someone should find the courage to tell GOP/TP voters the truth, which is that the party has morphed from one focused on governing to one focused on promoting the interests of the one and two percenters to the detriment of the rest of us, and that what they’re not selling is freedom but theocracy and fascism. None of them will do this because they fear those in the party who will get angry and attack them and promise to primary them if they have a political position. I’m a Star Trek fan, and I’ve said it before, the GOP/TP reminds me of the Borg and its motto, “Resistance if futile.” It’s sad seeing so many gutless wonders who place personal prospects over country. I think one of the major reasons GOP/TP pols in state legislatures and in Congress can’t bring themselves to work in the interests of citizens is because they’re way too busy pursuing their own, with the primary focus being on keeping their seats. Again, it’s sad because when I first became interested in politics in the early seventies, the GOP was still capable of governing in an effective manner, but that era in the party’s history seems to be over.

PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 7:25:50pm

re: #51 William Lewis

Latin makes up 40% of the English language.

jaunte Jun 4, 2016 • 7:26:07pm

re: #51 William Lewis

I should have said it’s “wyrd”

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:26:30pm

re: #55 jaunte

I should have said it’s “wyrd”

And very qunt.

William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 7:27:02pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel

Latin makes up 40% of the English language.

Vocabulary, yes. And probably a similar amount in the rest of Europe too. Grammer though? Nope.

BIAB

PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 7:27:59pm

re: #57 William Lewis

Our grammar is based in the Germanic languages. English is a melting pot.

gwangung Jun 4, 2016 • 7:28:39pm

re: #53 majii

I’m a Star Trek fan, and I’ve said it before, the GOP/TP reminds me of the Borg and its motto, “Resistance if futile.” It’s sad seeing so many gutless wonders who place personal prospects over country.

Which reminds me….

I have a certain weakness for David Weber and his Honor Harrington novels (though he’s gotten a bad case of Tom Clancyism). I enjoyed them despite his cardboard civilian villains.

But it was a certain amount of horror that I realized that today’s Republicans act JUST LIKE those Weber villains.

And many readers will totally deny that resemblance….

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:28:50pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

Our grammar is based in the Germanic languages. English is a melting pot.

As opposed to French, which is governed by an official language body that makes up new French words for new things instead of borrowing words from other languages.

jaunte Jun 4, 2016 • 7:29:03pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

Orð !

PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 7:30:11pm

re: #59 gwangung

I will not. I too enjoy Honor Harrington and I have the next one pre-ordered. Albrect Detweiler is a SOB.

Great White Snark Jun 4, 2016 • 7:31:03pm

Instagram

Smoky sunset

Just a few ago. Looks like brushfire smoke. Had some ashfall

majii Jun 4, 2016 • 7:32:17pm

re: #50 jaunte

Kristol should knock off the “I’m surprised at this development act” since he has spent many years rubber-stamping everything the GOP/TP has thrown out, from opposing healthcare reform in the 1990s to cheering on the TPers’ stupid antics in the 21st Century. Plus, he should always be reminded that he helped to usher Palin into the national spotlight.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:32:39pm

While moving things in the garage, managed to smack my toe/nail into the bottom of a bucket of cat litter. Hurt like hell, bled everywhere.

Just what I needed to make today more enjoyable.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:34:31pm

re: #65 klys (maker of Silmarils)

While moving things in the garage, managed to smack my toe/nail into the bottom of a bucket of cat litter. Hurt like hell, bled everywhere.

Just what I needed to make today more enjoyable.

I’ve done something similar twice. Shut it in a door once, basically ripped it clean off. Then I dropped a wheelbarrow full of concrete on it. That one was especially annoying because I was just recovering from surgery to correct ingrown toenails, and the whole nail fell off and when it grew back, it grew back ingrown on one side again.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:35:16pm

re: #65 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What are you doing work for, anyway? I assumed you would be glued to the television watching sportspuck.

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 7:35:37pm

BOOM!

Clinton unofficially won 92 percent of the vote in St. Croix, according to VI Dem FB account. Wins all 3 delegates there

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) June 5, 2016

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:35:42pm

re: #66 thedopefishlives

I’ve done something similar twice. Shut it in a door once, basically ripped it clean off. Then I dropped a wheelbarrow full of concrete on it. That one was especially annoying because I was just recovering from surgery to correct ingrown toenails, and the whole nail fell off and when it grew back, it grew back ingrown on one side again.

This was right along the top, just above where the nail starts. I still can’t quite figure out what I did. In the time it took mr. klys to get things, it managed to drip blood down into my shoe. Rather messy all around. Didn’t stop bleeding until I managed to get up off my foot.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:36:58pm

re: #69 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This was right along the top, just above where the nail starts. I still can’t quite figure out what I did. In the time it took mr. klys to get things, it managed to drip blood down into my shoe. Rather messy all around. Didn’t stop bleeding until I managed to get up off my foot.

Toenail bleeds are always annoying to deal with because the blood inevitably gets everywhere. It’s not like you’re really able to notice it until you look down and see a trail of blood following you.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:37:20pm

re: #67 thedopefishlives

What are you doing work for, anyway? I assumed you would be glued to the television watching sportspuck.

I can’t watch. Too much anxiety.

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b_sharp Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:25pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I can’t watch. Too much anxiety.

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Tied 2 2 with 8 minutes left.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:35pm

Fun story: it is half the price to fly to Japan when you fly out of LAX than flying out of SFO.

Even if you include the ticket down to LAX.

Guess we’re flying through LA this time.

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:49pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

BOOM!

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Yeah, my mistake. The numbers I posted above for St. Thomas were actually for St. Croix. So Hillary’s up 3-0 with St. Thomas and St. John yet to report.

According to NBC News, Hillary’s now 62 delegates away from the nomination. If she were to sweep PR’s 60 (unlikely, given that Sanders is consistently polling around 30 percent) or make up the difference with other superdelegates, she wouldn’t clinch when the New Jersey polls close; she’d clinch before they open.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:38:54pm

re: #72 b_sharp

Tied 2 2 with 8 minutes left.

I know. -_-

I follow, but I don’t watch.

Single-handed sailor Jun 4, 2016 • 7:39:06pm

re: #63 Great White Snark

View of Calabasas Fire from High baseball field. @ABC7 pic.twitter.com/KzZYpi4hoT

— Marlene Luterman (@MrsLutee) June 5, 2016

Praying for @chs #calabasas #calabasasfire sat in parking lot till ordered out. @ktla @abc7 pic.twitter.com/WRUwJCJHGD

— kathy kaehler (@kathykaehler) June 5, 2016

Fire in Calabasas

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:39:10pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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PhillyPretzel Jun 4, 2016 • 7:39:15pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards. And to klys a very speedy recovery.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 7:40:13pm

re: #69 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This was right along the top, just above where the nail starts. I still can’t quite figure out what I did. In the time it took mr. klys to get things, it managed to drip blood down into my shoe. Rather messy all around. Didn’t stop bleeding until I managed to get up off my foot.

I basically pried my left big toenail nearly off on something a while back. It’s still there, but buckling up in the middle as new growth is added to the root. I’m too chicken to just rip it off….

b_sharp Jun 4, 2016 • 7:40:35pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

Good Night to my fellow Lizards. And to klys a very speedy recovery.

Klys was lucky, she can clean up the blood with the cat litter.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:40:51pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

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b_sharp Jun 4, 2016 • 7:41:49pm

re: #79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I basically pried my left big toenail nearly off on something a while back. It’s still there, but buckling up in the middle as new growth is added to the root. I’m too chicken to just rip it off….

Tore my left big toenail half off a few months ago. It reattached itself and the damaged area has grown out.

klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 7:42:06pm

re: #80 b_sharp

Klys was lucky, she can clean up the blood with the cat litter.

I haven’t made my 5k steps yet. I should go limp around the block. Haha.

thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 7:42:30pm

re: #81 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Altermite Jun 4, 2016 • 7:44:00pm

nationalmemo.com

Not sure if that has been hosted, but Weld, the liberterian VP and a former federal prosecutor (also governor, but that’s less relevant to this) walked through the most fundamental legal flaw of the email “scandal.”

Eric The Fruit Bat Jun 4, 2016 • 7:55:36pm

re: #32 The Ghost of a Flea

Reince is just hoping that he can get Trump into the White House, hold the House and maybe hold the Senate by a one seat margin.

Reality check-there is no way Trump can deliver on anything he says. First off, Obama is twisting arms like mad to try to get TPA/TTIP passed before the election, so that becomes something that Trump can’t unwind-and you can bet a lot of heat is coming down on the GOP side to get the votes to pass it-especially in races where seats that may be uncontested may all of a sudden become magically contested if the pols start making populist noises about ‘bringing jobs back’.

Second, his wall building idea is such a farce its laughable. Not only did Penn and Teller do a brilliant takedown on the whole thing, but even his buddy Jesse Ventura thinks the idea is repulsive: “a wall not only keeps people out, but it keeps people in-just like in the days of East Germany.”

Third: his so-called Muslim ban? GMAFB. That’s such a non-starter.

Fourth: His hare-brained idea of letting Japan/Saudi Arabia having nukes. Fascinating. Let’s ignore the fact that Israel probably has a few hundred undeclared low-yield nukes of their own (having never signed the NNPT) - he now wants nations to freely violate the NNPT. Logical? Yes. Sane? I don’t think Beijing would like the idea of Tokyo having nukes that could hit their mainland in under a minute-which is what Trump’s proposal would allow Japan to do.

Trump has failed more businesses and marriages than the US has failed wars in the last 30 years.

It’s time both stop.

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:55:37pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

Whoa!

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Possible delegate sweep in the offing.

The Virgin Islands are not feeling the Bern

SOUTHERN STATE!

Reality Based Steve Jun 4, 2016 • 7:57:57pm

Well, I’m off to bed. Going to download the first volume of the Piers Anthony Incarnations of Immortality series. Been more than a few years since I’ve read them.

Be good, and try not to rip your toenails off.

RBS

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 7:58:14pm

re: #87 b.d.

The Virgin Islands are not feeling the Bern

SOUTHERN STATE!

By the way, in 2008, St. Croix went a little bit worse for Hillary:

Obama 628 (84%), Clinton 72 (9.7%), Others/ Uncommitted 46 (6.3%).

This time she won 92.1 to 6.8 percent. That’s a swing of 159.6 percent in her favor (or 79.8% if you’re British). That’s, um, impressive.

Belafon Jun 4, 2016 • 7:58:46pm

re: #88 Reality Based Steve

Well, I’m off to bed. Going to download the first volume of the Piers Anthony Incarnations of Immortality series. Been more than a few years since I’ve read them.

Be good, and try not to rip your toenails off.

RBS

Everyone should read the first two.

b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:01:17pm

re: #89 Brian J.

By the way, in 2008, St. Croix went a little bit worse for Hillary:

Obama 628 (84%), Clinton 72 (9.7%), Others/ Uncommitted 46 (6.3%).

This time she won 92.1 to 6.8 percent. That’s a swing of 159.6 percent in her favor (or 79.8% if you’re British). That’s, um, impressive.

THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!!!

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:02:58pm

Hearing reports that Hillary has well over a hundred Superdelegates holding off their public declarations of endorsement until after California votes. Makes sense, the absolute last thing she needs is to depress her own turnout here by clinching the nomination early. Also Sanders has no similar reason to hold back, any Super tempted to support him would’ve done so already, since his campaign desperately needs help with their narrative.

goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:09:48pm

HAHAHAHAHA! FUCK YES!!!

Clinton wins 87% to Sanders 12% - Clinton gets all 7 delegates - Sanders non-viable in the Virgin Islands.

— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) June 5, 2016

No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 8:10:27pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

I don’t see too many BernieBros in the comments. I wonder why that could be?

BeachDem Jun 4, 2016 • 8:10:30pm

John McCain not only brought us the introduction of the “othering” with Sarah “Real America” Palin (who he still defends to this day), but was one of the original “build the dang fence” guys. He’s having trouble getting re-elected? Too bad. So sad.

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:11:51pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

HAHAHAHAHA! FUCK YES!!!

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Hold on. Nate Silver says it’s 6-1. Sanders just scraped over the line in St. Thomas/ St. John (combined totals: Clinton 627, Sanders 136, Uncommitted 10).

majii Jun 4, 2016 • 8:12:40pm

re: #94 No Depression

Maybe reality is beginning to pierce their Bern Bubble. There should come a time when a sane individual begins to accept reality. At least, this is what I’m hoping is happening.

Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:14:17pm

re: #96 Brian J.

Hold on. Nate Silver says it’s 6-1. Sanders just scraped over the line in St. Thomas/ St. John (combined totals: Clinton 627, Sanders 136, Uncommitted 10).

Mind you, this would still completely cancel out Bernie’s “glorious victory” in, say, Indiana.

No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 8:16:10pm

re: #97 majii

Maybe reality is beginning to pierce their Bern Bubble. There should come a time when a sane individual begins to accept reality. At least, this is what I’m hoping is happening.

I think it’s just because they’re embarrassed and can’t come up with a way to spin this. Maybe the idea that the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico is part of the Clinton machine is too ridiculous even for them.

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Joe Bacon Jun 4, 2016 • 8:19:08pm

And Awwwwwaaaaayyyyyy weeeeeeee goooooooo!

Feeling the Bern in 10…9…8…7…

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b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:22:41pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon

And Awwwwwaaaaayyyyyy weeeeeeee goooooooo!

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ok, that made me laugh out loud.

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Brian J. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:24:09pm

59 delegates to go, apparently. On to Puerto Rico!

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:26:08pm

re: #96 Brian J.

Hold on. Nate Silver says it’s 6-1. Sanders just scraped over the line in St. Thomas/ St. John (combined totals: Clinton 627, Sanders 136, Uncommitted 10).

Right, seeing that now.

Because VI is a caucus, not a primary, Sanders will get 1 delegate from St John + part of St Thomas district. https://t.co/zFgB7hyyoT

— Benchmark Politics (@benchmarkpol) June 5, 2016

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 8:27:12pm

re: #101 b.d.

ok, that made me laugh out loud.

Me too!

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 8:29:19pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

Me too!

I felt guilty, ‘tho.

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Lancelot Link Jun 4, 2016 • 8:29:46pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon

Momentum!

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William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 8:30:37pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

Our grammar is based in the Germanic languages. English is a melting pot.

English is not a melting pot. It is a mugger in a dark alley that rolls other languages and steals everything of worth in them :)

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:30:52pm

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 8:30:57pm

klys gonna be happy! Sharks win in overtime.

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b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 8:31:18pm

re: #105 retired cynic

I felt guilty, ‘tho.

I got over it

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:31:37pm

re: #108 thedopefishlives

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:32:13pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

We are now 1-4 in OT this postseason.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:32:39pm

re: #111 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:33:46pm

Skip if you are a PIT fan. I’m going to revel just a teeny bit because it is our first win ever in the SCF.

Click to Reveal

DONSKOI!#SJSharks #TurnUpTheTank #FinishPitt #StanleyCup pic.twitter.com/x4FpoIeMIS

— #TurnUpTheTank (@SanJoseSharks) June 5, 2016

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 8:34:11pm

re: #112 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We are now 1-4 in OT this postseason.

A win is a win is a win. A game they needed fer sure.

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 8:36:01pm

Facebook Post

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Big Beautiful Door Jun 4, 2016 • 8:36:12pm

re: #1 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My shocked face:

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It looks so happy!

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 8:36:19pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon

Sanders: There will be a contested convention https://t.co/hzJDntnlBB pic.twitter.com/zzZb1e2F8i

— The Hill (@thehill) June 5, 2016

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 8:37:17pm

This is what Democrats united to beat @realDonaldTrump look like. Get ready, Donald - we’re coming. pic.twitter.com/p8dFtvr9NV

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) June 5, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:37:19pm

.@SenSanders doesn’t have an old people problem. His problem is with people experience enough to know when they’re being sold a bridge.

— Putain Démocratique (@goddamnedfrank) June 5, 2016

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:37:39pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

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A Bridge to Nowhere, perhaps?

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 8:38:21pm

re: #102 Brian J.

59 delegates to go, apparently. On to Puerto Rico!

Not The Onion: Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico Dem officials of fraud

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:39:08pm

Just found moment in my notes today where @BernieSanders interrupted French reporter asking a Q because he only wanted Q’s from Americans.

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 5, 2016

Reporter: “I’m with French television. We follow you—” @BernieSanders: “Hold on. Let me with all due respect go to my American colleagues”

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 5, 2016

This is what gives gringos a bad name around the world. Ugly American tourists! https://t.co/3gMILkVXmG

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) June 5, 2016

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 8:39:44pm

re: #122 Lidane

Not The Onion: Sanders campaign accuses Puerto Rico Dem officials of fraud

FRAUD!!!

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:40:17pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Bloody tourists!!!

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 8:41:01pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Skip if you are a PIT fan. I’m going to revel just a teeny bit because it is our first win ever in the SCF.

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I think the Pens goalie is still looking for that puck.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:41:10pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:42:39pm

re: #127 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:44:07pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:44:26pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Yamiche deleted and reposted tweet. Reload if you’re not seeing them.

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:47:10pm

re: #124 teleskiguy

FRAUD!!!

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This is the issue noted in my re: #33. Bernie’s people apparently didn’t file until the last minute, the VI Dems weren’t involved at all, Bernie’s people were in fact admitted are are accused of stealing ballot boxes.

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 8:47:49pm

Its almost as if they put racism and hatred over their so called principles.

Oh right, we already knew that. https://t.co/uusfms3gEh

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 5, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 8:47:54pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

The media has been going on for weeks now about how Hillary will “unite” the party behind her now that Bernie is on his way out and how she’s going to have to work hard to win over his supporters.

Meanwhile, Trump is forcing every single person who he berated and belittled to kneel and his ass…er, ring and the media treats this as if it’s totally normal.

In an odd way it is: Republicans were, prior to 2011, for the most part the more unified party. Republicans falling into line behind their nominee while the Dems fight part of their own left wing is not that odd, seen in the longer term.

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 8:47:56pm

The more things change, the more they stay the same:

Black scholar & civil rights leader W.E.B Du Bois talked about socialists putting class over race in 1913. pic.twitter.com/jL37wJEUpg

— Smooth Kobra (@smoothkobra) June 4, 2016

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 8:48:17pm

Sanders: @thehill pic.twitter.com/Bc5IXMXSrv

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 5, 2016

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:48:50pm

The Clinton camp is texting backers a Spanish language translation of the Trump-Tapper transcript over Judge Curiel pic.twitter.com/GOTFl8yEOo

— Gabriel Debenedetti (@gdebenedetti) June 4, 2016

Montell Jordan - This Is How We Do It

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:49:26pm

Okay, one more happy reaction thing.

Click to Reveal

Our goaltender’s parents (mom and dad):

someone’s dad…i uh…wasn’t listening to who it was pic.twitter.com/0oTbptAhHH

— Stephanie (@myregularface) June 5, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 8:50:03pm

re: #114 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Skip if you are a PIT fan. I’m going to revel just a teeny bit because it is our first win ever in the SCF.

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I’m good with that, since the Sharks punched out the Blues.

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 8:50:44pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

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There goes $hillary, pandering again.

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 8:50:54pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

I’m good with that, since the Sharks punched out the Blues.

Hey!! /

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:51:03pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but we do have both PIT fans AND STL fans here (and NSH) so I’m trying not to be obnoxious because I really hate it when someone is when the reverse happens. Which is why I’m putting stuff behind spoiler tags if it relates to the hockey game.

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:51:34pm

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

In an odd way it is: Republicans were, prior to 2011, for the most part the more unified party. Republicans falling into line behind their nominee while the Dems fight part of their own left wing is not that odd, seen in the longer term.

Gang mentality. Unity in spite of abject racism and xenophobia on the part of the Party leader is not something to be proud of.

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 8:52:19pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Gang mentality. Unity in spite of abject racism and xenophobia on the part of the Party leader is not something to be proud of.

Dude, you’re screaming at a

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:53:01pm

Clinton has a solid chance to net more delegates out of Puerto Rico tomorrow than Sanders has netted out of any contest but Washington

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) June 5, 2016

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:53:12pm

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Jay C Jun 4, 2016 • 8:54:06pm

re: #118 Lidane

Related:

Sanders: There will be a contested convention

I’m sure there will be.

Right up until the first ballot.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 8:55:25pm

re: #140 retired cynic

Hey!! /

You’re STL, TedStriker is NSH (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe RBS too but I don’t think he cares as much). TestyToadT is PIT, as is (maybe) Jenner7 and one of the Philly based Lizards whose name currently escapes me. A Cranky One and (apparently) DF are CHI fans. b_sharp likes TOR. There’s another Lizard whose current screenname I can’t remember for PHI, along with (maybe) Mattand. VegasGolfer likes the Kings, horrible taste. (I am required to say this.)

Those are the regulars who have expressed an opinion on hockey that I know of.

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 8:55:33pm

re: #129 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:56:22pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re STL, TedStriker is NSH (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe RBS too but I don’t think he cares as much). TestyToadT is PIT, as is (maybe) Jenner7 and one of the Philly based Lizards whose name currently escapes me. A Cranky One and (apparently) DF are CHI fans. b_sharp likes TOR. There’s another Lizard whose current screenname I can’t remember for PHI, along with (maybe) Mattand. VegasGolfer likes the Kings, horrible taste. (I am required to say this.)

Those are the regulars who have expressed an opinion on hockey that I know of.

The fact that you know all this is remarkable. It sounds like something I would say, if I spent more time here.

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 8:56:44pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If I’m in the right mood, I’ll cheer on the Avalanche. Which is increasingly rare these days.

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 8:56:58pm

I’m laughing harder than I should at this.

Lmao who’s son is this? pic.twitter.com/BxlfzGfo3x

— Chofis Almeyda (@Octav10) June 2, 2016

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 8:57:31pm

re: #146 Jay C

I’m sure there will be.

Right up until the first ballot.

Followed soon thereafter by Bernie Sanders flouncing to the exit.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 8:57:50pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I sorta pay attention to the Wild, but I’m not really invested in them as a team.

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 8:57:56pm

Some frisky baby goats to brighten your day 😊 pic.twitter.com/PsEPFygNy6

— Baby Animals (@BabyAnimalPics) June 5, 2016

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 8:58:19pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t really follow hockey that much: just snarking a bit! My favorites are college basketball and college volleyball, and I’m pretty devoted to the baseball Cardinals. You go right ahead and enjoy the victory! None of us get enough of that in our lives!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:02pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:15pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

That is glorious. Love it!

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:17pm

re: #149 thedopefishlives

I live in the Twin Cities, but I’m a diehard Red Wings fan.

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majii Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:38pm

re: #154 Lidane

Somebody’s mighty happy, and it’s a sight to behold.

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 9:00:45pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re STL, TedStriker is NSH (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe RBS too but I don’t think he cares as much). TestyToadT is PIT, as is (maybe) Jenner7 and one of the Philly based Lizards whose name currently escapes me. A Cranky One and (apparently) DF are CHI fans. b_sharp likes TOR. There’s another Lizard whose current screenname I can’t remember for PHI, along with (maybe) Mattand. VegasGolfer likes the Kings, horrible taste. (I am required to say this.)

Those are the regulars who have expressed an opinion on hockey that I know of.

I haz a sadz. You forgot me and the Blue jackets. : (

I know it is easy to forget about the Blue Jackets.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 9:02:02pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

I haz a sadz. You forgot me and the Blue jackets. : (

I know it is easy to forget about the Blue Jackets.

Well, you guys did do better than the Maple Leafs this year, so there’s that.

Sorry I was so cross this morning.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:02:40pm

re: #149 thedopefishlives

The fact that you know all this is remarkable. It sounds like something I would say, if I spent more time here.

I just try to keep track. I can somewhat do the same for the NFL, forget baseball, that would require caring enough to know various team names. (My baseball allegiance is: are they playing the Yankees? Go other team.)

Hockey is my sport, for better or worse.

It was 93 out, for the folks waiting in line to get through security at the stadium today.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:02:48pm

re: #158 Eric The Fruit Bat

I live in the Twin Cities, but I’m a diehard Red Wings fan.

And I’m a stalwart Colts fan. We don’t all root for our current hometown teams, it just depends on when we picked up the sport. I followed the White Sox only sparingly when I was a teen, but I got into baseball as my sport of choice only after my mother-in-law converted me to a Twins fan.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:03:17pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

I haz a sadz. You forgot me and the Blue jackets. : (

I know it is easy to forget about the Blue Jackets.

GAH!!! And we were just talking about that too. :(

I blame the sparkling wine. mr. klys made it for me because I am still hobbling around and he didn’t put as much grapefruit juice in as I do. >.>

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:04:41pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

GAH!!! And we were just talking about that too. :(

I blame the sparkling wine. mr. klys made it for me because I am still hobbling around and he didn’t put as much grapefruit juice in as I do. >.>

In the meantime, I picked up a nice big container of whiskey. I finally skipped the Coke part and went straight for the throat and now I’m bordering on the Iron Fist rule. Bed will probably follow shortly, especially now that I’m on the current season of Doctor Who, which apparently costs money to stream. I’ve been re-watching the older seasons to pass the time when Mrs. Fish is away with friends.

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ObserverArt Jun 4, 2016 • 9:05:25pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

GAH!!! And we were just talking about that too. :(

I blame the sparkling wine. mr. klys made it for me because I am still hobbling around and he didn’t put as much grapefruit juice in as I do. >.>

No problem. I like sports, but I always keep it real.

You have to following Ohio pro sportin’ teams.

Later all…

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:05:36pm

re: #165 thedopefishlives

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Sherlock Hound Jun 4, 2016 • 9:06:03pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

<—— BOS Bruins fan. It’s astonishing how long ago 2011 was. :( And sad how the Bruins as a franchise cannot adopt the successful ways of our other four sports teams.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:07:02pm

re: #168 Sherlock Hound

<—— BOS Bruins fan. It’s astonishing how long ago 2011 was. :( And sad how the Bruins as a franchise cannot adopt the successful ways of our other four sports teams.

So you’re rooting for the Sharks, right? We’ve got former BOS legends Joe Thornton and Martin Jones on our team… ;)

(The comfort I have to offer is that …at least your GM is not Jim Benning? Small comfort, I’m sure.)

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:07:22pm

re: #167 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 9:07:47pm

Florida Man:

Worker buried boss with dirt using front-end loader, report says

On the site of a new Wal-Mart, natch.

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Sherlock Hound Jun 4, 2016 • 9:09:10pm

re: #169 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“Where do we get players like that?!” Oh, wait… //

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:09:42pm

@AlGiordano I’m just gonna nickname Bernie’s contested convention threat “The Charge of the White Brigade.”

— Volguus Zildrohar (@eclecticbrotha) June 5, 2016

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 9:09:59pm

<———— Clueless about hockey, since I grew up in a state where there’s football and there’s football. Everything else is a hobby. ;)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:10:49pm

re: #170 thedopefishlives

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:10:52pm

re: #174 Lidane

<———— Clueless about hockey, since I grew up in a state where there’s football and there’s football. Everything else is a hobby. ;)

My home state has a professional football team, but for all that, their sportsball of choice is basketball. Half the high schools in Indiana don’t even have football programs; mine was one of them.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:11:25pm

re: #174 Lidane

<———— Clueless about hockey, since I grew up in a state where there’s football and there’s football. Everything else is a hobby. ;)

Until the Stars sort out their goaltending issues (and I say this as a Niemi fan who is realistic), that’s probably for the best.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:13:03pm

re: #175 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:13:06pm

@eclecticbrotha @allanbrauer @AlGiordano “Into the valley of derp rode the sick humbug…”

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 5, 2016

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Joe Bacon Jun 4, 2016 • 9:13:38pm

re: #121 thedopefishlives

A Bridge to Nowhere, perhaps?

I sure do remember Rege Cordic and the KDKA Bridge Leap on the Bridge To Nowhere!

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:15:32pm

re: #176 thedopefishlives

My home state has a professional football team, but for all that, their sportsball of choice is basketball. Half the high schools in Indiana don’t even have football programs; mine was one of them.

I’m surprised football isn’t bigger in Indiana honestly. Surprised that basketball took off the way it did. Basketball, it’s my understanding was popular first in the cities.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:16:28pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I’m surprised football isn’t bigger in Indiana honestly. Surprised that basketball took off the way it did. Basketball, it’s my understanding was popular first in the cities.

mr. klys is from North Carolina.

I dug myself a HUGE hole over Christmas by expressing my opinion of the sport of basketball. (Namely, that you can watch the last two minutes and get the whole thing.)

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 9:16:41pm

re: #176 thedopefishlives

My home state has a professional football team, but for all that, their sportsball of choice is basketball. Half the high schools in Indiana don’t even have football programs; mine was one of them.

Hilariously, the best professional sportsball teams in Texas are the basketball franchises. Between the Spurs, the Mavs, and the Rockets there are 8 NBA Championships. The Dallas Cowboys have 5 Super Bowls. The Dallas Stars have 1 Stanley Cup, IIRC. The other teams are also rans. The Rangers and Astros have each gone to the World Series once, and that’s it, and the Houston Texans are skilled at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

You wouldn’t know that the way this state wastes a lot of fucking money on football. It’s not unheard of for school districts to spend $50 million on a new stadium while vocational and art classes get cut.

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 9:17:22pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re STL, TedStriker is NSH (maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe RBS too but I don’t think he cares as much). TestyToadT is PIT, as is (maybe) Jenner7 and one of the Philly based Lizards whose name currently escapes me. A Cranky One and (apparently) DF are CHI fans. b_sharp likes TOR. There’s another Lizard whose current screenname I can’t remember for PHI, along with (maybe) Mattand. VegasGolfer likes the Kings, horrible taste. (I am required to say this.)

Those are the regulars who have expressed an opinion on hockey that I know of.

I’m a Stars fan (kinda). Never followed hockey all that closely, but I made more of an effort this year to follow them this year. I was not disappointed. There’s few things more exciting than playoff hockey.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:17:23pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is from North Carolina.

I dug myself a HUGE hole over Christmas by expressing my opinion of the sport of basketball. (Namely, that you can watch the last two minutes and get the whole thing.)

Yeah heh you done messed up there. Lots of basketball down there. Basketball is my favorite sport to play honestly probably because it’s so easy adn quick to set up a pick up game.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 9:17:52pm

re: #173 Kragar

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With Susan Sarandon as Captain Nolan.

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 9:17:53pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Oh, no! Small towns. A really small town can field a basketball team, but around here, to get a good football team, a number of small towns have to consolidate, and it takes a lot of the fun out of it. Any place you can put up a basket, 2 or 3 can start to play.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:18:35pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yeah heh you done messed up there. Lots of basketball down there. Basketball is my favorite sport to play honestly probably because it’s so easy adn quick to set up a pick up game.

Oh, I knew what I was doing. >.> But I stand by my opinion.

Also, I’m short, so it holds less interest for me.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:18:39pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I’m surprised football isn’t bigger in Indiana honestly. Surprised that basketball took off the way it did. Basketball, it’s my understanding was popular first in the cities.

Indiana - despite the Pacers, who have sucked ass for as long as I can remember - is one of the centers of basketball primarily because of its colleges. Purdue and Indiana have had immensely successful basketball programs since the colleges were founded. Valparaiso University, a little-regarded university on the fringes of the NCAA, took the college basketball world by storm with their miracle season to the Sweet Sixteen when I was in high school. (I got to meet Bryce Drew, one of the stars of that team, as a senior.) It’s just always been that way.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:18:41pm

re: #183 Lidane

Hilariously, the best professional sportsball teams in Texas are the basketball franchises. Between the Spurs, the Mavs, and the Rockets there are 8 NBA Championships. The Dallas Cowboys have 5 Super Bowls. The Dallas Stars have 1 Stanley Cup, IIRC. The other teams are also rans. The Rangers and Astros have each gone to the World Series once, and that’s it.

You wouldn’t know that the way this state wastes a lot of fucking money on football. It’s not unheard of for school districts to spend $50 million on a new stadium while vocational and art classes get cut.

Rangers went twice. The Spurs though man that’s quietly been the best run team in the four major sports the past quarter century. Popovich is his generation’s Red Auerbach. I’d take him over Phil Jackson if I were building a team from scratch. Plus I love love how the Spurs are coached. No player is bigger than the team.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:19:06pm

re: #184 No Depression

I’m a Stars fan (kinda). Never followed hockey all that closely, but I made more of an effort this year to follow them this year. I was not disappointed. There’s few things more exciting than playoff hockey.

PLAYOFF SPORTSPUCK IS THE BEST.

AND BY THE BEST I MEAN MOST LIKELY TO DRIVE YOU TO DRINK.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:19:52pm

re: #187 retired cynic

Oh, no! Small towns. A really small town can field a basketball team, but around here, to get a good football team, a number of small towns have to consolidate, and it takes a lot of the fun out of it. Any place you can put up a basket, 2 or 3 can start to play.

Oh no doubt, it’s just that it was my understanding that basketball was at first popular in the cities while games like football and baseball had more popularity in the rural areas. And I don’t care what people say, baseball isn’t boring. I’ll stick to that strongly.

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 9:20:15pm

re: #188 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh, I knew what I was doing. >.> But I stand by my opinion.

Also, I’m short, so it holds less interest for me.

No, you’ve got that all wrong. Basketball is just terrific, except pro. Then they just jog up and down and make baskets. And I’m short, and I used that as an excuse to not sweat!

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whitebeach Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:00pm

The college baseball regionals are in full swing, the truly beautiful American game, and yet people persist in watching and, worse yet, caring about thugs slapping a glorified cow paddy around a frozen surface between engaging in clumsy fights. No wonder Trump is a thing.

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Lidane Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:04pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Rangers went twice. The Spurs though man that’s quietly been the best run team in the four major sports the past quarter century. Popovich is his generation’s Red Auerbach. I’d take him over Phil Jackson if I were building a team from scratch. Plus I love love how the Spurs are coached. No player is bigger than the team.

I’ve been a Spurs fan for ages. Pop is easily my favorite coach in any sport. They’re such an underrated, well-oiled machine. It’s going to be painful when they have to rebuild from their current lineup, but man, I’m going to enjoy watching them while it happens.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:07pm

re: #189 thedopefishlives

Indiana - despite the Pacers, who have sucked ass for as long as I can remember - is one of the centers of basketball primarily because of its colleges. Purdue and Indiana have had immensely successful basketball programs since the colleges were founded. Valparaiso University, a little-regarded university on the fringes of the NCAA, took the college basketball world by storm with their miracle season to the Sweet Sixteen when I was in high school. (I got to meet Bryce Drew, one of the stars of that team, as a senior.) It’s just always been that way.

Ah so it started out at the colleges? I see. Isn’t Butler in Indiana too? And Larry Bird of course went to Indiana State and I think took them to the championship against Magic’s MSU Spartans.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:21:52pm

re: #193 retired cynic

No, you’ve got that all wrong. Basketball is just terrific, except pro. Then they just jog up and down and make baskets. And I’m short, and I used that as an excuse to not sweat!

I am tempted to learn how to ice skate, as they offer lessons at the Sharks practice facility. They give you a big stack of buckets to skate around clinging to. I have no dignity and would take complete advantage of it.

My balance is abysmal. Sweat I have less of a problem with. (I did make my 5k steps, hobbling around the house hallways. Hopefully tomorrow it is up to something more strenuous.)

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:22:08pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ah so it started out at the colleges? I see. Isn’t Butler in Indiana too? And Larry Bird of course went to Indiana State and I think took them to the championship against Magic’s MSU Spartans.

Yep. I think the comment in #187 had the right of it; as a smaller sport that required fewer players, basketball actually took off more among the rural towns in Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky. That’s why we’re the powerhouses when it comes to that particular brand of sportsball.

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retired cynic Jun 4, 2016 • 9:22:34pm

Oh, my goodness. The wine just ran out. I guess I’ll take my book and head out of here. Night, all!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:22:36pm

re: #194 whitebeach

The college baseball regionals are in full swing, the truly beautiful American game, and yet people persist in watching and, worse yet, caring about thugs slapping a glorified cow paddy around a frozen surface between engaging in clumsy fights. No wonder Trump is a thing.

If hockey gives us Justin Trudeau …where do I get more?

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:22:40pm

re: #195 Lidane

I’ve been a Spurs fan for ages. Pop is easily my favorite coach in any sport. They’re such an underrated, well-oiled machine. It’s going to be painful when they have to rebuild from their current lineup, but man, I’m going to enjoy watching them while it happens.

They’re underrated because they’re not flashy. It is going to be sad when they have to rebuild but they do have a nice young guy in Leonard. It just amazes me that they’ve gone only one year in the last 25 below 500 and if I recall correctly, David Robinson was hurt that year.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:23:04pm

re: #198 thedopefishlives

Yep. I think the comment in #187 had the right of it; as a smaller sport that required fewer players, basketball actually took off more among the rural towns in Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky. That’s why we’re the powerhouses when it comes to that particular brand of sportsball.

That does make sense now that I think about it.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:23:46pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

That does make sense now that I think about it.

Every farm kid that I know of grew up learning to shoot a ball at the hoop. Just because I never was all that good at it doesn’t mean I don’t know how, and I have the right build for it, at 6’ 2”.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:23:48pm

re: #200 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And to be fair …no one really watches hockey. Tonight’s game - the championships! - was on NBCSN.

You have to have cable to have watched it.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 9:24:52pm

re: #203 thedopefishlives

Every farm kid that I know of grew up learning to shoot a ball at the hoop. Just because I never was all that good at it doesn’t mean I don’t know how, and I have the right build for it, at 6’ 2”.

Shows what I know. It’s a great game. I’ve had a lot of fun coaching it the past few winters. I still don’t have a favorite NBA team but as I got at, I have mad respect for San Antonio.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:26:05pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Shows what I know. It’s a great game. I’ve had a lot of fun coaching it the past few winters. I still don’t have a favorite NBA team but as I got at, I have mad respect for San Antonio.

I lived in Bulls territory at the height of Michael Jordan’s career. You can imagine what that did to my upbringing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 4, 2016 • 9:28:06pm

re: #193 retired cynic

No, you’ve got that all wrong. Basketball is just terrific, except pro. Then they just jog up and down and make baskets. And I’m short, and I used that as an excuse to not sweat!

“Ka-Chunk”, “Ka-Chunk”, first one end and then the other, and whoever scored last wins the game 142-140. It’s boring as hell. Plus half of each game seems to consist of what, if we’d tried it, would have been called traveling.

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 9:28:08pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And to be fair …no one really watches hockey. Tonight’s game - the championships! - was on NBCSN.

You have to have cable to have watched it.

I really hate that. I think that’s a big reason why the NHL is basically the redheaded stepchild of professional sports leagues: no one can watch the damn games, even if its the playoffs! If the NHL would air more games on local channels and basic cable, they could easily expand the brand.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:29:48pm

re: #208 No Depression

I really hate that. I think that’s a big reason why the NHL is basically the redheaded stepchild of professional sports leagues: no one can watch the damn games, even if its the playoffs! If the NHL would air more games on local channels and basic cable, they could easily expand the brand.

We cut the cord this past year, and I pay to get nhl.tv (which really pissed me off this year through any number of stupid moves) but at least I can watch all the games. Of course, I have to wait 2 days to watch any nationally televised games OR games that involve teams that I am deemed to be in the region for. (For me, just the Sharks. There are places that black out 4 teams though.)

Better than nothing, at least.

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whitebeach Jun 4, 2016 • 9:30:11pm

re: #200 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If hockey gives us Justin Trudeau …where do I get more?

Dunno. Was he a hockey guy before?

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:30:12pm

Pretty obvious Sanders is working for Trump @eileendefreest @Alasscan_ @DWStweets pic.twitter.com/LSkD0Bfw5S

— HunterHRC2016 (@HunterHRC2016) June 5, 2016

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:30:28pm

re: #210 whitebeach

Dunno. Was he a hockey guy before?

He’s Canadian.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:32:54pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We cut the cord this past year, and I pay to get nhl.tv (which really pissed me off this year through any number of stupid moves) but at least I can watch all the games. Of course, I have to wait 2 days to watch any nationally televised games OR games that involve teams that I am deemed to be in the region for. (For me, just the Sharks. There are places that black out 4 teams though.)

Better than nothing, at least.

You can work around that, by the way. I do that with mlb.tv; I got a free subscription through my cell phone provider (T-Mobile is good for something, y’all!), and yet I can’t watch any Twins games live because they’re “in-market” and thus blacked out. But there are services out there that let me appear out-of-market, and so I am able to stream live games if I so desire.

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whitebeach Jun 4, 2016 • 9:33:57pm

re: #212 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He’s Canadian.

Mais yeh, eh? But he’s still got his front teeth, no? So hockey player or wut?

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jaunte Jun 4, 2016 • 9:34:32pm

re: #211 Kragar

Nothing like a well-reasoned political argument.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:34:57pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

You can work around that, by the way. I do that with mlb.tv; I got a free subscription through my cell phone provider (T-Mobile is good for something, y’all!), and yet I can’t watch any Twins games live because they’re “in-market” and thus blacked out. But there are services out there that let me appear out-of-market, and so I am able to stream live games if I so desire.

Yeah, I didn’t bother with it this year (I was watching games after the fact while working out, so it wasn’t a big deal) but we’ll see what I do going forward.

I’m really wanting them to restore the archives. (The service switched to the mlb folks in January and 10 years worth of archived games disappeared with no warning. I was …not happy.)

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 9:35:16pm

re: #206 thedopefishlives

I lived in Bulls territory at the height of Michael Jordan’s career. You can imagine what that did to my upbringing.

I was a teenager when the Broncos won two Super Bowls in a row under the tutelage of John Elway. I know, bro.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:36:08pm

re: #214 whitebeach

Mais yeh, eh? But he’s still got his front teeth, no? So hockey player or wut?

Who knows, but he’s probably a fan.

He can’t be opposed to the fights, seeing how he’s a boxer.

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 9:36:48pm

re: #147 klys (maker of Silmarils)

PIT fan, yes. Sharks played great tonight, solid win.

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thedopefishlives Jun 4, 2016 • 9:37:29pm

Alright, I think I’ll finally call it a night. See you later, gentle lizardfolk. Fight nicely and don’t forget the asbestos-scale suits if it really comes down to that.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 4, 2016 • 9:37:45pm

re: #211 Kragar

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Dudebros letting their misogyny flag fly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:38:10pm

re: #219 Jenner7

PIT fan, yes. Sharks played great tonight, solid win.

I was pretty but not quite 100% sure.

I’ll like you again when the series is done. ;) Just a little too much emotion riding on it for me to talk about it rationally right now.

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:42:54pm

Shit like this just makes me want to burn the fucking world down

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 5, 2016

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 9:42:59pm

IF PIT wins in 6, they’d likely have a parade the day we land in Ohio ( or game 7). We’re about an hour and a half from Pittsburgh. Hoping for a game 7 so if they do win, we can go there to celebrate.

Or the Sharks will win and I’ll have a sad.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:43:56pm

re: #224 Jenner7

IF PIT wins in 6, they’d likely have a parade the day we land in Ohio ( or game 7). We’re about an hour and a half from Pittsburgh. Hoping for a game 7 so if they do win, we can go there to celebrate.

Or the Sharks will win and I’ll have a sad.

But I’ll have a happy?

Someone’s going to be sad either way though, and that does make me sad. :(

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goddamnedfrank Jun 4, 2016 • 9:44:19pm

Revenge Level: Khaleesi

There’s very few times I will genuinely bow to someone, but the woman in this story is a heroine. pic.twitter.com/omK0Ew0AjL

— (((.))) (@twlldun) May 23, 2016

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:45:01pm

re: #1 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My shocked face:

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That critter scares the fuck out of me…mostly because I picture it being the size of a manatee.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:45:49pm

re: #224 Jenner7

IF PIT wins in 6, they’d likely have a parade the day we land in Ohio ( or game 7). We’re about an hour and a half from Pittsburgh. Hoping for a game 7 so if they do win, we can go there to celebrate.

Or the Sharks will win and I’ll have a sad.

Sharks like Penguins…they taste just like chicken.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 4, 2016 • 9:45:54pm

Good morning Lizards!

Day 4 in France has begun. Currently staying at a hotel in a small town about 20km from Basel, Switzerland. Did a walking tour along the Rhine and through the old part of the city yesterday. Today’s plan since the weather is better on the other side of the Jura is to visit Luzerne. Travel northward further into Alsace starts tomorrow.

Yesterday afternoon was the first non-rainy period since we arrived. And the news here is about the Seine running high and causing flooding in Paris. In addition to Muhammed Ali dying. Sort of relief to have not seen the obnoxious facist yam on any media for the past four days — beyond a few bits in French media that an odd mix of laughter and horror. (Laughter that we’d consider him, horror at the thought of what happens if he wins.)

Food and alcohol have both been outstanding. Nice thing about the mixed French-German culture of Alsace is that both the beer and wine are excellent. And the French take bread about as seriously as the Germans take beer.

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:46:01pm

JUST IN: Clinton now 57 delegates away from clinching nomination; Puerto Rico (67 delegates) votes tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/T7E4jREzz6

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) June 5, 2016

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electrotek Jun 4, 2016 • 9:47:34pm

I know I have given much praise to Japan on here in the past, but I can’t help but to continue heaping praise on the Japanese:

Schools take in Tokyo mosque to get unbiased glimpse of Islam https://t.co/m25qcsrYTv pic.twitter.com/7UL7WdUfH7

— The Japan Times (@japantimes) June 3, 2016

I really wished I lived in Japan instead of here. At least I wouldn’t have to experience hostility over there.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 4, 2016 • 9:48:31pm

No explicit sportspuck coverage here though. So I have to check every other day to see how the Penguins are doing. (I see San Jose won in OT last night. Que sera sera.)

(One of our hosts here is a Greek-descent French-Canadian. So I have been talking hockey with her. :) )

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 9:48:44pm

re: #223 Kragar

37 pounds? Motherfuck!

How’d that prayer work out you fucking religious fanatics?!? Your son is dead. I guess it was God’s will, eh?

*spit*

I agree, Kragar. We don’t deserve this beautiful blue/green ball we inhabit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 9:48:59pm

re: #232 Feline Fearless Leader

No explicit sportspuck coverage here though. So I have to check every other day to see how the Penguins are doing. (I see San Jose won in OT last night. Que sera sera.)

(One of our hosts here is a Greek-descent French-Canadian. So I have been talking hockey with her. :) )

You’re the other PIT fan whose name I couldn’t remember.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:51:04pm

re: #233 teleskiguy

37 pounds? Motherfuck!

How’d that prayer work out you fucking religious fanatics?!? Your son is dead. I guess it was God’s will, eh?

*spit*

I agree, Kragar. We don’t deserve this beautiful blue/green ball we inhabit.

Give those parents a few hours with a Rhesus monkey with a nosebleed. Let’s see how much they like the power of prayer then.

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BeachDem Jun 4, 2016 • 9:51:17pm

re: #206 thedopefishlives

I lived in Bulls territory at the height of Michael Jordan’s career. You can imagine what that did to my upbringing.

Sam Jones lived in my hometown. I, being an OLD, grew up during the golden era of the Boston Celtics—Bob Cousy, Bill Russell, Sam and KC Jones, Satch Sanders, Tommy Heinsohn etc.

My sister’s lame first husband did one good thing—he bought season tickets to the Celtics for their first anniversary. She never wanted to go to the games, so I took full advantage of it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 9:51:32pm

re: #229 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards!

Day 4 in France has begun. Currently staying at a hotel in a small town about 20km from Basel, Switzerland. Did a walking tour along the Rhine and through the old part of the city yesterday. Today’s plan since the weather is better on the other side of the Jura is to visit Luzerne. Travel northward further into Alsace starts tomorrow.

Yesterday afternoon was the first non-rainy period since we arrived. And the news here is about the Seine running high and causing flooding in Paris. In addition to Muhammed Ali dying. Sort of relief to have not seen the obnoxious facist yam on any media for the past four days — beyond a few bits in French media that an odd mix of laughter and horror. (Laughter that we’d consider him, horror at the thought of what happens if he wins.)

Food and alcohol have both been outstanding. Nice thing about the mixed French-German culture of Alsace is that both the beer and wine are excellent. And the French take bread about as seriously as the Germans take beer.

My daughter spent a semester abroad in Strasbourg. She loved it! She and her friends visited Paris, went to Oktoberfest and probably did a lot of stuff she never told me about.

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:52:41pm

.@McDonalds knows this because they have tried and failed to legally compensate their employees in burgers. pic.twitter.com/AumEE0ONJN

— Jeff Waxman (@FriendJeff) June 5, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 9:54:50pm

re: #231 electrotek

I know I have given much praise to Japan on here in the past, but I can’t help but to continue heaping praise on the Japanese:

I really wished I lived in Japan instead of here. At least I wouldn’t have to experience hostility over there.

Back in the days of yore, when the Southern Baptist Seminary in Louisville was moderate, one of the profs there required his students to visit a different house of worship each week, including the Islamic Center, the Hindu temple and the Buddhist Community Center.

Those days are long gone, under the Ayatollah Mohler.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 9:55:56pm

Gorilla mom disapproves.

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electrotek Jun 4, 2016 • 9:56:36pm

re: #239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Back in the days of yore, when the Southern Baptist Seminary in Louisville was moderate, one of the profs there required his students to visit a different house of worship each week, including the Islamic Center, the Hindu temple and the Buddhist Community Center.

Those days are long gone, under the Ayatollah Mohler.

Those were the days.

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Altermite Jun 4, 2016 • 10:01:36pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, but boxers like civilized fights,

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:11:55pm

re: #242 Altermite

Yeah, but boxers like civilized fights,

Hey, hockey players wear gloves to theirs too. :)

(Fighting is actually down in the NHL. Not sure there’s been any beyond some pushing/shoving during the Finals, I haven’t been able to actually watch the games because of anxiety.)

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bratwurst Jun 4, 2016 • 10:14:03pm

Pearl clutching time!

Trump supporter Newt Gingrich unloads on GOP nominee’s obvious race-baiting of Trump U judge: pic.twitter.com/oylHrKfVZb

— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) June 5, 2016

Will Newt stop supporting Trump and categorically refuse to be on the ticket?

Of course not.

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teleskiguy Jun 4, 2016 • 10:15:14pm

re: #244 bratwurst

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jun 4, 2016 • 10:18:53pm

re: #244 bratwurst

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The Ghost of a Flea Jun 4, 2016 • 10:19:54pm

re: #239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Back in the days of yore, when the Southern Baptist Seminary in Louisville was moderate, one of the profs there required his students to visit a different house of worship each week, including the Islamic Center, the Hindu temple and the Buddhist Community Center.

Those days are long gone, under the Ayatollah Mohler.

It even divested itself of what was an incredibly rich theological library collection.

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b.d. Jun 4, 2016 • 10:20:00pm

re: #244 bratwurst

Pearl clutching time!

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Will Newt stop supporting Trump and categorically refuse to be on the ticket?

Of course not.

Newt must have been told that he didn”t make the VP short list.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 4, 2016 • 10:20:04pm

re: #237 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My daughter spent a semester abroad in Strasbourg. She loved it! She and her friends visited Paris, went to Oktoberfest and probably did a lot of stuff she never told me about.

We’re headed north towards Strasbourg tomorrow probably. First couple days here were de-jet lagging, visiting some friends, and getting things straightened out from a passport snarl that stopped a person from flying out for a day. So that got us two day-trip days to go into Switzerland. We stuck to Basel yesterday due to the weather.

How much time we spend in Paris and whether we make it over to Normandy is still open. We have a very open itinerary in terms of where we will be on a specific day beyond being at the airport to leave.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:20:21pm

Reporter: “I’m with French television. We follow you—” @BernieSanders: “Hold on. Let me with all due respect go to my American colleagues”

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) June 5, 2016

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No Depression Jun 4, 2016 • 10:26:10pm

re: #250 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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“With all due respect” is the “I’m not racist, but…” of etiquette.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:27:06pm

Toes suck.

WHY DOES IT HURT SO MUCH I STUBBED IT OKAY?

Granted it was hard and it bled a lot but still. :(

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 10:29:13pm

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 10:29:33pm

re: #247 The Ghost of a Flea

It even divested itself of what was an incredibly rich theological library collection.

The SBS was once a prize jewel of higher education in Louisville, part of the Metroversity cooperative, with a faculty esteemed for its depth and breadth of scholarship. It had a nationally known, well respected MSW program, as well. After the conservatives purged the campus of all moderate and liberal Baptists — requiring everyone to attest to a set of very narrow articles of faith — the quality of education and scholarship sank rapidly. Now only conservative Southern Baptists admire the seminary, because it offers some pretense of scholarly authority for their Biblical literalism and bigotry.

It’s really sad what happened to SBS. Several of my friends were caught up in the purges, and had to move away from town to get new teaching posts.

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 10:31:40pm

Rather than be remembered for being a populist firebrand & pushing the D party left, hell be remembered as the selfish guy who got high /

— Benghazi Jim Halpert (@Wilson__Valdez) June 5, 2016

on his own adulation & started deluding both himself & his supporters who can’t admit he lost, to detriment of any actual, tangible change.

— Benghazi Jim Halpert (@Wilson__Valdez) June 5, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 10:31:48pm

re: #252 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Toes suck.

WHY DOES IT HURT SO MUCH I STUBBED IT OKAY?

Granted it was hard and it bled a lot but still. :(

Work boots. Steel-toed, even. Get ‘em and wear ‘em.

I learned the hard way. Any thing that involves lifting and moving stuff requires a stout pair of shoes, because toes.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 10:33:04pm

re: #251 No Depression

“With all due respect” is the “I’m not racist, but…” of etiquette.

I think in a US election giving US media preference makes a bit of sense. There are plenty of things people can shit on Bernie for, but saying he wants to focus on US media first? Give the guy a break - he’s not Satan.

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electrotek Jun 4, 2016 • 10:33:42pm

A great fighter, tho he didn’t fight for our nation. Critical of our country, but still beloved. #RIPMuhammadAli pic.twitter.com/jftyPbu2ar

— Allen West (@AllenWest) June 4, 2016

Uh yeah fuck this guy a thousand times

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sagehen Jun 4, 2016 • 10:35:13pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is from North Carolina.

I dug myself a HUGE hole over Christmas by expressing my opinion of the sport of basketball. (Namely, that you can watch the last two minutes and get the whole thing.)

Basketball is the sport with no helmets, no padding. Just a bunch of very tall, well-muscled men in skimpy clothing jumping and twirling, with good enough binoculars you can see the sweat running down their faces, the twitch of their thighs and shoulders, the… (pardon me. back in a minute. whew. I need a cigarette.) What was I saying?

Oh, yeah. Basketball is competitive improv ballet. Did I mention that some of the players have special exemptions from the Law of Gravity?

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 10:35:43pm

re: #257 darthstar

No, he’s not satan, but would you give Hillary a break if she said that? I doubt it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:36:55pm

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Work boots. Steel-toed, even. Get ‘em and wear ‘em.

I learned the hard way. Any thing that involves lifting and moving stuff requires a stout pair of shoes, because toes.

I was picking up a ~35lb bucket of cat litter in the garage. I still have no idea how I did it because it involved stubbing my toe up into the bucket. While moving. Without setting it down on my foot.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 10:37:13pm

re: #257 darthstar

I think in a US election giving US media preference makes a bit of sense. There are plenty of things people can shit on Bernie for, but saying he wants to focus on US media first? Give the guy a break - he’s not Satan.

I disagree. He’s in charge of the press conference, I would assume. He could spare a few minutes from the American reporters to answer a question from the French media. If he needed more time, then he could just make the conference a little longer. Whether he (or Trump) like it or not, the American president is a world leader and needs to relate to the rest of the world in a respectful manner. Telling the French media to piss off, in so many words, is not a good image to present.

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sagehen Jun 4, 2016 • 10:40:08pm

re: #214 whitebeach

Mais yeh, eh? But he’s still got his front teeth, no? So hockey player or wut?

just a French major from the Bronx…

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 10:40:30pm

re: #260 Jenner7

No, he’s not satan, but would you give Hillary a break if she said that? I doubt it.

Yes. I would. The US election may have international interest and implications, but candidates should be allowed to focus on their task at hand…while they’re candidates. If Bernie had said to Jake Tapper, “Excuse me, but the French press had their hands up first.” can you imagine the outrage - or Hillary for that matter? It’s silly season in the election. Hillary is about five dozen delegates away from 2383, and Bernie’s promising a floor fight - but even I recognize he’s going in with both hands tied behind his back. Even if he wins California by a wide margin it won’t make a difference. Hillary will throw him a bone and he’ll accept it. Period.

Now we go on to the next phase - hoping the Democrats don’t fuck this up and hand the government over to unbalanced Republicans. Once we’ve prevented that disaster, we can worry about the future of American hegemony.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jun 4, 2016 • 10:40:52pm

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I disagree. He’s in charge of the press conference, I would assume. He could spare a few minutes from the American reporters to answer a question from the French media. If he needed more time, then he could just make the conference a little longer. Whether he (or Trump) like it or not, the American president is a world leader and needs to relate to the rest of the world in a respectful manner. Telling the French media to piss off, in so many words, is not a good image to present.

He seems to be doing a lot of that kind of stuff. Sure, you could call him ‘unconventional’, but I’m thinking ‘asshole’ probably is more accurate.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:42:04pm

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I disagree. He’s in charge of the press conference, I would assume. He could spare a few minutes from the American reporters to answer a question from the French media. If he needed more time, then he could just make the conference a little longer. Whether he (or Trump) like it or not, the American president is a world leader and needs to relate to the rest of the world in a respectful manner. Telling the French media to piss off, in so many words, is not a good image to present.

I’ll grant, context is important and I am unclear of the context here. If it was a press conference and he called on them, that’s pretty inexcusable to me. If they came up and started asking him questions on the way to a discussion somewhere else, that’s something different.

But your point stands true regardless of whether or not it was a press conference. America is a world leader, and the leader of America absolutely needs to be able to deal with other countries. That’s part of what I think we all agree makes Trump so unqualified for the office. That qualification doesn’t disappear just because it’s a candidate with a (D) after their name.

In isolation, it isn’t good evidence. Context might mitigate it some, but I don’t have any to offer.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 10:42:31pm

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I disagree. He’s in charge of the press conference, I would assume. He could spare a few minutes from the American reporters to answer a question from the French media. If he needed more time, then he could just make the conference a little longer. Whether he (or Trump) like it or not, the American president is a world leader and needs to relate to the rest of the world in a respectful manner. Telling the French media to piss off, in so many words, is not a good image to present.

Okay, fine, he’s Satan.

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majii Jun 4, 2016 • 10:42:38pm

re: #244 bratwurst

I’m not putting too much effort into believing Newt Gingrich is sincere since he’s the guy who, the last time he ran for POTUS, said that he reserved the right if quoted verbatim, to deny what his quote said he said. Hell, he should be ashamed to show his face in public because when he was going after former President Clinton about Monica Lewinsky, he was married, his wife was sick with cancer, and he was boinking his congressional aide Callista. The only reason any GOP/TPer is finally speaking up about Trump’s attacks on Judge Curiel is because they’re afraid that if he keeps it up, it will cause more Hispanics/Latinos to refuse to vote for GOP/TPers in November. It’s a self-serving, party-first move more than a move that shows courage in standing up for the right thing.

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darthstar Jun 4, 2016 • 10:43:54pm

Time to stare at the backs of my eyelids for a few hours. Take care, all. Try not to hate Bernie too much. I really do think he still has a lot to offer, and you’re going to feel betrayed by Hillary when she says the same.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:44:26pm

re: #267 darthstar

Okay, fine, he’s Satan.

You know, I’d like to think you’d respond better to criticism that disagrees with your viewpoint and has some basis in actual reality.

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majii Jun 4, 2016 • 10:44:40pm

re: #258 electrotek

Forced- out-of the-military-guy- says what?

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Altermite Jun 4, 2016 • 10:45:25pm

re: #267 darthstar

Okay, fine, he’s Satan.

Huh. I had my doubts, but you’ve convinced me. Satan it is.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jun 4, 2016 • 10:46:49pm

re: #267 darthstar

Okay, fine, he’s Satan.

The Hell you say!

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 10:47:00pm

re: #269 darthstar

Um, no. But okay. Night.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:47:36pm

re: #269 darthstar

I don’t have unrealistic expectations of Hillary so the chances I’m going to feel betrayed are pretty low.

I expect her to advocate for equality, reproductive healthcare, preserving the ACA and hopefully working to expand it, making sure GLBT rights aren’t eroded, working to counter global warming, etc., etc.

Free college is nice and all that, but those other things are important too. More important, if I get down to it, because they affect EVERYONE, not just those ready to go to college.

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bratwurst Jun 4, 2016 • 10:48:02pm

re: #269 darthstar

Time to stare at the backs of my eyelids for a few hours. Take care, all. Try not to hate Bernie too much. I really do think he still has a lot to offer, and you’re going to feel betrayed by Hillary when she says the same.

I personally feel like he has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has virtually nothing to offer, but I still won’t feel betrayed when Hillary has to praise him. That is just how it goes.

Of course, if he and his handlers had an iota of sense they would be preparing to praise the nominee on Tuesday night instead of preparing a slow motion temper tantrum.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:48:34pm

I love it when I catch a typo in the edit window.

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Jenner7 Jun 4, 2016 • 10:49:11pm

I don’t hate Bernie. I just don’t think he’s qualified for the job and his hostile view of my party is kind of irritating.

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sagehen Jun 4, 2016 • 10:49:34pm

re: #257 darthstar

I think in a US election giving US media preference makes a bit of sense. There are plenty of things people can shit on Bernie for, but saying he wants to focus on US media first? Give the guy a break - he’s not Satan.

Everyone in the room can hear the answer. Isn’t it possible that, with foreign policy a legitimate criteria, a French reporter might ask a question more relevant than anything Mark Halperin or Don Lemon would come up with?

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electrotek Jun 4, 2016 • 10:50:06pm

If only Dave Chapelle was more open about his Muslim faith like Ali was. Dave Chapelle surely has the charisma to help counter anti-Muslim prejudice, no?

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William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 10:50:48pm

re: #258 electrotek

War criminal says what?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 10:50:55pm

re: #280 electrotek

If only Dave Chapelle was more open about his Muslim faith like Ali was. Dave Chapelle surely has the charisma to help counter anti-Muslim prejudice, no?

It’s a nice thought but no. Not really.

I’m not sure there’s any single person out there with the charisma to counter anti-Muslim prejudice.

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majii Jun 4, 2016 • 10:52:58pm

re: #272 Altermite

I had a lot of respect for Bernie Sanders in the past, but it seems that once he became a somewhat more popular politician, the additional attention has caused him to do/say things I never thought he would have said/done in the recent past. I never thought he’d be pushing for a contested convention in a political party that has welcomed him with open arms for a long time in Congress, and I didn’t think he’d throw such a tantrum because of the way delegates/super-delegates are awarded/earned. I never saw it coming because I figured he was someone who could work with others, and someone intelligent enough to have studied the method the Democratic Party uses to select its presidential candidate. I can sort of understand his disdain for the idea of super-delegates, but I don’t understand his wanting to “tear the roof off” the convention stadium to get his way.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 10:55:41pm

re: #267 darthstar

Okay, fine, he’s Satan.

I did not say he was. I disagree with his action, and your opinion of it, that’s all.

If any candidate were Satan, it would not be Bernie. He’s more like Ganesh, charging ahead despite all obstacles.

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William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 10:57:08pm

re: #282 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s a nice thought but no. Not really.

I’m not sure there’s any single person out there with the charisma to counter anti-Muslim prejudice.

Considering the rampant Islamophobia I saw and tried to counter in the NPR Ali obituary? Not, it’s too virulent right now for any public figure to gain anything but a target on his back.

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Lancelot Link Jun 4, 2016 • 10:59:08pm

The BernieBros on Facebook are now citing news stories from Breitbart.
SMGDMFH.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 11:03:08pm

re: #285 William Lewis

Considering the rampant Islamophobia I saw and tried to counter in the NPR Ali obituary? Not, it’s too virulent right now for any public figure to gain anything but a target on his back.

I would love for this to not be reality. I would love for this to be different. I think it’s horrible, and wrong, and I’m so mad at the politicians who are enabling it.

But I’m realistic enough to know that one public figure isn’t going to make the difference, no matter who they are. There is no one universally loved enough to convince the RWNJs who have been swallowing propaganda for at least 20 years about how evil Islam is that they’re wrong.

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Altermite Jun 4, 2016 • 11:07:54pm

re: #283 majii

Personally, I started out as a strong supporter of Senator Sanders. I went to one of the very first rallies he had after he announced. My issues are threefold.

First, I like to think of myself as a pretty knowledgeable guy about certain issues, and the more he’s talked about them, the less impressed I’ve been. I like his ideology, but he depends on it too much compared to actual knowledge, and that preference for ideologically orthodoxy over empiricism has lead him to positions that I think are flawed.

Second, I think his inner circle is trash. The things I was most bothered by coming out of his campaign didn’t come from Sanders, but from his surrogates. The best example was Jeff Weaver’s characterization of Clinton’s fundraising for downticket candidates as “money-laundering” on the grounds that she didn’t distribute the funds during the primary. Fuck that guy. But also fuck him for all his other nonsense. I’m acquainted with some reputable activists (not in a campaign sense) who have attempted to work with the Sanders campaign, and they’ve concluded that his inner circle is essentially controlling access to him, which has prevented certain groups from relating to and working with him. shiksappeal.wordpress.com is a good example of what I mean, though she’s not one of the people with whom I’m acquainted.

Third, and related to his second: He’s not displaying leadership. He doesn’t have any meaningful control over his movement, or, importantly, most of the people who ‘speak’ for him. Sarandon is a good example here, but, again, Weaver et al are much more egregious examples of people who he should be exerting influence over, but are instead not only influencing him, but exerting more direct influence over his supporters than he himself is.

/novel

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 11:12:25pm

re: #288 Altermite

You’re not going to find too many people who disagree with you on those points here. :)

Also, yay another late night/West Coast Lizard.

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Kragar Jun 4, 2016 • 11:17:01pm

re: #286 Lancelot Link

That feeling you get when you see Berniebots passing around Breitbart articles pic.twitter.com/NjzAKuEZGg

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 11:23:42pm

re: #281 William Lewis

War criminal says what?

War criminal is concerned. I’d like to point out to West that Trump nor Romney served. Romney in fact demostrated in favor of the draft only to go hide out in France during the war. Ali stood up for what he believed was an unjust war. I have far more respect for a man like that than a coward like Romney who cheerleads a war from afar and then does all he can to get out of uniform.

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HappyWarrior Jun 4, 2016 • 11:27:26pm

If it’s so rigged to favor establishment candidates then maybe I can find out how Obama got the nomination in 2008. Fact of the matter is Bernie has no idea how to build a coalition to win a Democratic primary and it seems to me that when he realized that he wasn’t going to win, he threw a tantrum. Now, I do think he will support Clinton against Trump. I do think he sees that Trump is far worse than Clinton despite what some of his idiotic supporters like Sarandon think but I doubt you’ll see Bernie go to bat for Clinton even close to the way she did for Obama. The guy has a terrible record of actually campaigning for other people. Maybe this year will be a first.

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Anymouse Jun 4, 2016 • 11:32:47pm

re: #11 nines09

What Senator McCain is actually doing is pissing on the Vets. The vets who came back with pieces and parts missing. The ones who lost their families while serving. The ones who didn’t come back. And the ones who were POW. That black POW flag flies everywhere. There are some words on it. Trump just pissed all over it. Made it a lie. And he has an American flag lapel pin, just like the others who have to wear a flag pin to prove they are patriotic or freedom loving or whatever fucked up reason they need to reassure their sorry asses they care. They do not. And all Ambian Johnny can do is get in line to eat some Cheetos. Kiss that ass Johnny. Kiss it. Fuck off. Just fuck off. I’m all out of fucks.

This article starts with “this is why I could never be a politician.”

I am a politician (albeit a very low-level one). You do not have to give up morals to be a politician, it is just that the lure of power causes an awful lot of morally weak people to give them up (see also some wealthy people like Pharma Bro).

And yeah, Trump pisses directly on my father, and McCain enables that.

I only fly the POW flag on military observances and Federal holidays (because those things are quite expensive) in our village. Nevertheless, it draws tears every time I haul it up the flagstaff.

I fly the Honor and Remember flag from my house every day.

I hope fervently that Ann Kirkpatrick sends McCain packing. He showed no honour with his endorsement of Donald Trump after the way Mr. Trump treated him. In the past, I could respect him. No more.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 4, 2016 • 11:33:03pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

If it’s so rigged to favor establishment candidates then maybe I can find out how Obama got the nomination in 2008. Fact of the matter is Bernie has no idea how to build a coalition to win a Democratic primary and it seems to me that when he realized that he wasn’t going to win, he threw a tantrum. Now, I do think he will support Clinton against Trump. I do think he sees that Trump is far worse than Clinton despite what some of his idiotic supporters like Sarandon think but I doubt you’ll see Bernie go to bat for Clinton even close to the way she did for Obama. The guy has a terrible record of actually campaigning for other people. Maybe this year will be a first.

Bernie does not see Democrats as allies, at least not the Party machine as an ally. He sees the Party as a means to an end — his nomination. As an outsider, he should have tried a little harder not to alienate the Dems, including the Party bosses, because on the off chance he won the nomination, they’d be the people supporting his campaign, not the ragtag bunch of fanbois and fangirls who follow him.

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TK-421 Jun 4, 2016 • 11:39:34pm

State audit finds DNR ignoring own rules on water pollution

Wisconsin’s water quality regulators failed to follow their own policies on enforcement against polluters more than 94 percent of the time over the last decade, the state’s nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau said in a report released Friday.

From 2005 to 2015, there was a general decline in state Department of Natural Resources enforcement activity to protect lakes, streams and groundwater from large livestock farms, factories and sewage treatment plants that discharge liquid waste, according to the bureau’s 124-page report.

During a period when elected officials from both political parties have decreased DNR staffing, notices of violations were issued to polluters in just 33 of 558 instances serious enough for such citations under DNR policies, the audit found.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 11:40:11pm

it’s 11:40 and I just put on a 2 hour thing.

This’ll help me go to sleep at a reasonable time, right?

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William Lewis Jun 4, 2016 • 11:41:59pm

re: #294 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Folks around here will often ding DF for his excessive party loyalty but this is its opposite and just as dangerous to achieving a better tomorrow.

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TK-421 Jun 4, 2016 • 11:44:19pm

Editorial: Scott Walker got caught attacking the Wisconsin Idea, lied about it and then got caught lying

Walker’s attempt to eliminate language detailing that “Wisconsin Idea” pledge caused a lot of controversy in Wisconsin, and nationally. It was embarrassing for Walker because it reinforced an impression of him as a political careerist who had little interest in public education or public service.

There wasn’t anything presidential about getting caught trying to eliminate a commitment that the UW hails as “one of the longest and deepest traditions surrounding the University of Wisconsin,” a principle “synonymous with Wisconsin for more than a century” and an idea that “has become the guiding philosophy of university outreach efforts in Wisconsin and throughout the world.”

There wasn’t anything presidential about rewriting the UW’s mission to do away with its historic commitment “to educate people and improve the human condition” and to “serve and stimulate society.”

And there certainly wasn’t anything presidential about the budget’s proposal to delete language declaring that “basic to every purpose of the (University of Wisconsin) system is the search for truth.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 11:45:45pm

re: #298 TK-421

Not that my mother lives in WI anymore, but she abhors Walker for what he has done to the UW system with a passion I have rarely seen in her.

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TK-421 Jun 4, 2016 • 11:50:49pm

He’s a real piece of work, I tell you.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jun 4, 2016 • 11:55:14pm

re: #300 TK-421

It’s late. Why aren’t you at your post?!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 4, 2016 • 11:59:00pm

re: #301 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s late. Why aren’t you at your post?!

I should take a full day and rewatch the originals.

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Alyosha Jun 4, 2016 • 11:59:39pm

…. borked it all

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:02:35am

re: #303 Alyosha

I recognize that second name as a Bernie supporter to the nth degree. Mostly through what people have retweeted from that account. Also a quick check of the timeline to see things like this:

Hillary’s people demanding Sanders drop out has nothing do w/ party unity. She just wants to pivot right, & he won’t let her.

— YeaYouRite (@YeaYouRite) June 4, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:05:41am

re: #304 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I recognize that second name as a Bernie supporter to the nth degree. Mostly through what people have retweeted from that account. Also a quick check of the timeline to see things like this:

The thing is, Hillary could veer center-right and still be a flaming liberal as compared to Trump and most of the GOP.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:06:47am

re: #305 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The thing is, Hillary could veer center-right and still be a flaming liberal as compared to Trump and most of the GOP.

Nonsense, someone told me she was to the right of Kasich.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:06:52am

And as far as a flag pin? I do not wear one. I wear my Gold Star Family pin.

It’s not that I am not patriotic. That pin (my avatar) is personal to me, even though the government awarded them to my mother, my sister, and me forty-five years late.

I want to see Donald Trump crushed under a tsunami of votes, and sweep every one of the toadies like McCain who are supporting him so far out into the political wilderness they can’t find their way back with a compass, a map, a computer, and Mapquest.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:07:26am

re: #307 Anymouse

And as far as a flag pin? I do not wear one. I wear my Gold Star Family pin.

It’s not that I am not patriotic. That pin (my avatar) is personal to me, even though the government awarded them to my mother, my sister, and me forty-five years late.

I want to see Donald Trump crushed under a tsunami of votes, and sweep every one of the toadies like McCain who are supporting him so far out into the political wilderness they can’t find their way back with a compass, a map, a computer, and Mapquest.

Well yeah, nobody uses Mapquest anymore.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:08:05am

re: #308 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well yeah, nobody uses Mapquest anymore.

Okay then, Google Maps.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:08:42am

re: #309 Anymouse

Okay then, Google Maps.

How was sleep, once you finally got there?

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Alyosha Jun 5, 2016 • 12:09:16am

re: #304 klys (maker of Silmarils)

His tweets used to be favorably shared here so it was a bit of a shock to see. I somehow stuffed up my previous comment whilst editing :(

This dude is a rank idiot. https://t.co/R7XMirhmO0

— ☔️ Imani Gandy ☔️ (@AngryBlackLady) June 5, 2016

I wanted a badass name for my badass Fallout character so…

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:10:24am

re: #310 klys (maker of Silmarils)

How was sleep, once you finally got there?

It was fine. My cat didn’t even do his usual “let’s see if I can eat James and claw him to death” routine.

mapq.st

That link goes to Mapquest. My wife still uses it. It is the route for our car trip this summer.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 5, 2016 • 12:11:03am

re: #311 Alyosha

His tweets used to be favorably shared here so it was a bit of a shock to see. I somehow stuffed up my previous comment whilst editing :(

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I wanted a badass name for my badass Fallout character so…

I named a character in some computer game “Ouibejammain”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:11:05am

re: #306 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nonsense, someone told me she was to the right of Kasich.

/

So I’ve heard, too. To some, HRC is the anti-Christ, whether they’re right wing or left wing. That probably means she’s the best choice.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:11:20am

re: #311 Alyosha

It’s not your fault someone’s gone off the rails. I mostly judge people who still approvingly retweet that shit.

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 5, 2016 • 12:12:19am

re: #314 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So I’ve heard, too. To some, HRC is the anti-Christ, whether they’re right wing or left wing. That probably means she’s the best choice.

That she is anti-hate (or at least not totally lost in promoting hate, more hate, and extra isolationism) is a primary reason to choose her.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:12:50am

re: #312 Anymouse

It was fine. My cat didn’t even do his usual “let’s see if I can eat James and claw him to death” routine.

mapq.st

That link goes to Mapquest. My wife still uses it. It is the route for our car trip this summer.

I need to drive more in Canada.

That being said, I am heartily sick of the stuff to the east of the Mississippi.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:12:51am

re: #313 Feline Fearless Leader

I named a character in some computer game “Ouibejammain”

Didn’t he play for the Raptors and the Rockets?
//

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:17:11am

re: #317 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I need to drive more in Canada.

That being said, I am heartily sick of the stuff to the east of the Mississippi.

Yeah! You cross the border into Saskatchewan and the speed limit goes up to “Maximum 100” - Canada is big on 100 mph speed limits /s

While my Smart will do 100, I don’t think the provincial cops or RCMP would accept an answer like “well the sign says Maximum 100. I was under 100mph the whole time, officer.”

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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 5, 2016 • 12:17:39am

Bernie blowing off the French reporter is getting coverage in the news here in France.

(Since I don’t speak French it’s hard to discern the exact reaction. But the clip from the press conference is being shown.)

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goddamnedfrank Jun 5, 2016 • 12:18:34am

re: #304 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I recognize that second name as a Bernie supporter to the nth degree. Mostly through what people have retweeted from that account. Also a quick check of the timeline to see things like this:

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That guy is a fucking mess. The last thing Hillary wants to do right now is pivot to the right. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to break the Republican Party by irrevocably tying all of it’s horrid policy positions to a horrid white nationalist fascist piece of shit. What she needs is an opportunity to solidify the left in total opposition to Trump’s racism and that can’t happen until Sanders concedes gracefully.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:19:01am

re: #319 Anymouse

Yeah! You cross the border into Saskatchewan and the speed limit goes up to “Maximum 100” - Canada is big on 100 mph speed limits /s

While my Smart will do 100, I don’t think the provincial cops or RCMP would accept an answer like “well the sign says Maximum 100. I was under 100mph the whole time, officer.”

mr. klys and I have a teardrop style travel trailer that we go out with and we want to take it to Alaska at some point. Among other destinations.

Neither of us is interested in doing 100mph with it.

A view of our trailer.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:21:14am

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank Jun 5, 2016 • 12:25:22am

re: #323 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:25:34am

re: #322 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Kewl. We camp the rough way, by renting motel rooms.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:25:54am

re: #322 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys and I have a teardrop style travel trailer that we go out with and we want to take it to Alaska at some point. Among other destinations.

Neither of us is interested in doing 100mph with it.

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What do you pull it with? My stepson was considering buying one.

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Cheechako Jun 5, 2016 • 12:25:57am

re: #319 Anymouse

Yeah! You cross the border into Saskatchewan and the speed limit goes up to “Maximum 100” - Canada is big on 100 mph speed limits /s

While my Smart will do 100, I don’t think the provincial cops or RCMP would accept an answer like “well the sign says Maximum 100. I was under 100mph the whole time, officer.”

Errr…that’s 100 K/hour!! About 62 MPH!

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:27:37am

re: #327 Cheechako

Errr…that’s 100 K/hour!!

Wow, my Smart won’t go 100k miles per hour. I need a faster car.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:29:03am

re: #328 Anymouse

Wow, my Smart won’t go 100k miles per hour. I need a faster car.

You’d have a Smart space capsule if it did. Don’t forget those CO2 scrubbers.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:29:20am

re: #326 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What do you pull it with? My stepson was considering buying one.

We have a Subaru Outback (not even the larger engine model) that is our tow vehicle. It is, to be fair, rated for 3500lb (our model is 1600lb unloaded) but the only thing we’re careful of is very steep mountain roads. We do have brakes on the trailer, controlled via a brake controller installed in the car.

We didn’t buy the car with towing the trailer in mind - the car came first, the trailer second. It’s worked out just fine. Ours is definitely on the large side for a teardrop and depending on how interested your son is, I can easily provide more photos/recommendations. We’ve had it almost 3 years now and continue to be thrilled. Easily one of the best decisions we’ve made.

re: #325 Anymouse

RV campsites are cheaper. :) Only downside is having to put on clothes to go to the bathroom.

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Cheechako Jun 5, 2016 • 12:30:33am

re: #322 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys and I have a teardrop style travel trailer that we go out with and we want to take it to Alaska at some point. Among other destinations.

Neither of us is interested in doing 100mph with it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:31:08am

re: #331 Cheechako

If you get to SE Alaska, stop on by.

It would be on the list for sure. The biggest constraint right now is time. :)

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:31:31am

re: #329 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You’d have a Smart space capsule if it did. Don’t forget those CO2 scrubbers.

I think a space capsule is bigger than a Smart. I am not sure there is enough room in a Smart for CO2 scrubbers, though there was an episode of Bones where Hodgkins rigged up one from the lithium batteries in the car they were buried in. That might work.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:33:17am

re: #330 klys (maker of Silmarils)

RV campsites are cheaper. :) Only downside is having to put on clothes to go to the bathroom.

Well, our car gets 50 miles per gallon on gas. :p

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:34:00am

re: #334 Anymouse

Well, our car gets 50 miles per gallon on gas. :p

Doesn’t kill our mileage as much as you would think …but we’re still at not at 50mpg. :)

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Cheechako Jun 5, 2016 • 12:34:51am

re: #325 Anymouse

Kewl. We camp the rough way, by renting motel rooms.

I had a friend who considered a crappy camping trip as “poor room service at the Holiday Inn”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:35:22am

re: #330 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thanks. He’s got an SUV, but I forget what make and model since he just got it last year. Now that he’s got a girl friend, who I heard is in the family way, buying a trailer now is probably out of the question.

Living so far from family means I miss out on some details, unless they are pro-active in telling me. My daughter lives on Facebook, so I always know what she’s doing. My son, not so much. I only learned last week that he’s moving in with his GF, who lives in Dallas, but that apparently has been in the wind for a couple of months. And this stepson I knew had a GF, but the forthcoming stepson progeny is a total surprise.

All my kids use Google Hangouts. It’s blocked in China, so I rarely use it. Thus, I’m out of the loop.

Maybe a good thing, in some respects.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:35:38am

re: #335 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Doesn’t kill our mileage as much as you would think …but we’re still at not at 50mpg. :)

Our trip will take us through the same border crossing as last year. I do hope the same customs official is on duty when we go through the border. (He was the fellow who wondered whether there were only 87 cars in Nebraska due to our car’s registration number, and apologised profusely for holding us up at the border while he called in our car to ensure it wasn’t a stolen state vehicle.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:37:17am

re: #333 Anymouse

I think a space capsule is bigger than a Smart. I am not sure there is enough room in a Smart for CO2 scrubbers, though there was an episode of Bones where Hodgkins rigged up one from the lithium batteries in the car they were buried in. That might work.

Your biggest problem would be keeping the air inside the car. And waste removal.

Definitely not suitable for space travel. Needs modifications.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:37:34am

re: #337 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Our trailer sleeps 4, as long as two are small children who can fit in the bunk beds that the couch can be turned into. ;)

I keep in touch regularly with my parents and …regularly but less often with mr. klys’s, who appreciate having a daughter-in-law who keeps them in the loop. Since I appreciate a smooth relationship with my in-laws, I see that that continues.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:39:51am

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our trailer sleeps 4, as long as two are small children who can fit in the bunk beds that the couch can be turned into. ;)

I keep in touch regularly with my parents and …regularly but less often with mr. klys’s, who appreciate having a daughter-in-law who keeps them in the loop. Since I appreciate a smooth relationship with my in-laws, I see that that continues.

Smart woman.

My daughter, being the language major and customer service pro, is more communicative than her IT-based brothers. Fortunately, i speak all their languages.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 12:40:51am

OK, time to go buy foodstuffs. BBL

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:43:27am

re: #339 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Your biggest problem would be keeping the air inside the car. And waste removal.

Definitely not suitable for space travel. Needs modifications.

I think I will just use the PanAm shuttle in 2001. (Well, I would, if there were a space shuttle and PanAm was still in business.)

The northern most portion of our trip is The Pas, Manitoba. That’s as far north as we can drive a Smart car. From there, we will take the train to Churchill. (My wife always wanted to go to Churchill, so we will do that.) The scenic side trip to Michigan and Chicago is so I can visit my family (that part of it that will still talk to me).

Highway 92 is a state highway that retains the same number from Chicago to Wyoming. It is the longest continuously numbered state highway in the nation. We’ve driven the whole length from Torrington (the western end) to Council Bluffs, Iowa. I’m thinking we might drive the part we haven’t been on (from Chicago to Council Bluffs).

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:44:22am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Smart woman.

My daughter, being the language major and customer service pro, is more communicative than her IT-based brothers. Fortunately, i speak all their languages.

mr. klys is an only child and a software developer.

From what I can tell it would be hard to be less communicative. (It says a lot that he told his parents about me within 2 weeks of our first date. Mostly about how serious he was.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:47:14am

re: #343 Anymouse

It is not a state highway but I highly recommend US 395.

Most scenic drive in the US in my opinion, especially the portion in CA south of Reno.

This is not that section but is on 395.

US 395 near Bishop, CA.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:47:15am

re: #344 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is an only child and a software developer.

From what I can tell it would be hard to be less communicative. (It says a lot that he told his parents about me within 2 weeks of our first date. Mostly about how serious he was.)

My wife is a retired software engineer (she worked for Digital Equipment). It is that which turned her into the “head cynic” and a first class pessimist. (Not only will everything fail, everything will fail with utter disaster.)

Then she was the village library director, which did not improve her cynicism.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:49:10am

re: #345 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It is not a state highway but I highly recommend US 395.

Most scenic drive in the US in my opinion, especially the portion in CA south of Reno.

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Quite stunning.

I live a couple miles east of US-385, which is not breathtaking at all. It does go through the Sandhills though, which are quite pretty. (I live in the Sandhills though, so I am somewhat jaded.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:51:05am

re: #347 Anymouse

We have driven all of US 395 at this point (not in one go) and it is my favorite highway so far.

I have driven through NE before but I might have appreciated it more if it wasn’t a) day 3 of a 6 day drive and b) immediately after Zion.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:53:38am

re: #348 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We have driven all of US 395 at this point (not in one go) and it is my favorite highway so far.

I have driven through NE before but I might have appreciated it more if it wasn’t a) day 3 of a 6 day drive and b) immediately after Zion.

I live near Courthouse and Jail Rocks (well, eight miles away, you can see them from our town cemetery though). Chimney Rock is in my county and Scott’s Bluff is not too far away.

I have not been to any of the great National Parks though. My wife wants me to go to Zion (she has been there).

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:54:58am

re: #349 Anymouse

I live near Courthouse and Jail Rocks (well, eight miles away, you can see them from our town cemetery though). Chimney Rock is in my county and Scott’s Bluff is not too far away.

I have not been to any of the great National Parks though. My wife wants me to go to Zion (she has been there).

Zion is absolutely worth a stop, but Yellowstone holds my heart.

This is Zion.

This was Yellowstone, last year.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:57:00am

re: #350 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I would like to go to Yellowstone. Directions are simple: Start out going south three blocks, turn right on US-26, trip ends at Yellowstone.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 12:58:06am

re: #351 Anymouse

I would like to go to Yellowstone. Directions are simple: Start out going south three blocks, turn right on US-26, trip ends at Yellowstone.

Go tomorrow. Take the “Geysers of Yellowstone” book by T. Scott Bryan with you. Spend lots of time at the geysers for me. There is no better place in the world.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 12:59:29am

re: #352 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Go tomorrow. Take the “Geysers of Yellowstone” book by T. Scott Bryan with you. Spend lots of time at the geysers for me. There is no better place in the world.

I have been to Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. Though it is “only” a city park, it is stunning.

I can’t go to Yellowstone tomorrow, but I will go soon.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Jun 5, 2016 • 1:00:44am

re: #353 Anymouse

I have been to Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. Though it is “only” a city park, it is stunning.

It is on the list to see, but it can’t beat the geysers.

(I may be biased.)

Riverside, 2012.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 1:03:58am

re: #354 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It is on the list to see, but it can’t beat the geysers.

(I may be biased.)

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I don’t have to go anywhere: According to The Onion, all the nation’s landmarks are piled right here in Broadwater in a secure location. All I have to do is ferret out that secure location and I can see everything from the Statue of Liberty to the Golden Gate Bridge.

theonion.com

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teleskiguy Jun 5, 2016 • 1:39:16am

re: #307 Anymouse

I wear t-shirts. I haven’t donned my sport coat (bought at Dillard’s eight years ago) since last summer, when I wore a t-shirt and my sport coat for a job interview.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 1:47:34am

re: #356 teleskiguy

I wear t-shirts. I haven’t donned my sport coat (bought at Dillard’s eight years ago) since last summer, when I wore a t-shirt and my sport coat for a job interview.

Well, I don’t often wear more formal clothes (mostly jeans and t-shirts), but I do occasionally due to my position.

I do have my signature pink trilby hat I wear when I go to village board meetings, and another trilby hat (white) made of paper I usually wear.

My wife also bought me a felt, handmade black trilby hat in Poland last year which I wear when I am in a sport coat or business suit.

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Nyet Jun 5, 2016 • 1:53:08am

McCain is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Not a hero in the slightest.

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Nyet Jun 5, 2016 • 1:57:55am

- Status quo is no longer tolerable! We are the revolution!
- Wait, now you’re for regime change?

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 2:05:21am

re: #358 Nyet

McCain is a pathetic excuse for a human being. Not a hero in the slightest.

I would be empathetic to Senator McCain (but I am not). The most charitable explanation I can give is that he simply lost sight of what’s happened to military and veterans in the long time since he left the Navy himself.

The less charitable explanation is he wants to hold on to power by any means necessary, and in that he is not much different than Donald Trump (though less overtly racist).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 2:12:50am

re: #357 Anymouse

Well, I don’t often wear more formal clothes (mostly jeans and t-shirts), but I do occasionally due to my position.

I do have my signature pink trilby hat I wear when I go to village board meetings, and another trilby hat (white) made of paper I usually wear.

My wife also bought me a felt, handmade black trilby hat in Poland last year which I wear when I am in a sport coat or business suit.

I have two fedoras I bought in LA one summer. Both were made in China. One’s made from paper and the other from some kind of plant fibre. They’re not gangster fedoras, but probably more like trilbies’ brim size.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 2:14:03am

Reload that last comment from me. I had to correct a grammar error.

My EFL students’ English is rubbing off on me.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 2:41:35am

re: #361 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I have two fedoras I bought in LA one summer. Both were made in China. One’s made from paper and the other from some kind of plant fibre. They’re not gangster fedoras, but probably more like trilbies’ brim size.

I once had a friend in the Navy who suggested I should dress up in a suitable period suit and appropriate fedora hat, and he and another friend would pose as my bodyguards.

Apparently he thought I looked like I could be a Roaring Twenties gangster or something.

On the other hand, my pink trilby certainly does not project that image (nor my hair).

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Nojay UK Jun 5, 2016 • 3:00:59am

re: #360 Anymouse

I would be empathetic to Senator McCain (but I am not). The most charitable explanation I can give is that he simply lost sight of what’s happened to military and veterans in the long time since he left the Navy himself.

He wanted to be an admiral, like his father and grandfather before him. He was on track to being the oldest captain in the Navy before the penny dropped that he was not going to be promoted again, ever, and he resigned his commission for Republican wingnut welfare and a Senator’s salary.

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Ming5000 Jun 5, 2016 • 3:15:55am

re: #364 Nojay UK

He wanted to be an admiral, like his father and grandfather before him. He was on track to being the oldest captain in the Navy before the penny dropped that he was not going to be promoted again, ever, and he resigned his commission for Republican wingnut welfare and a Senator’s salary.

Reminds me of the whole GOP attitude of “I got mine on my own, so eff you, do it yourself.” McCain’s pathway was gilt from the beginning.

Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple.
Tom Shatel (December 14, 1986). “The Unknown Barry Switzer - Poverty, Tragedy Build Oklahoma Coach into a Winner”. Chicago Tribune. Retrieved on September 25, 2012.

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Nojay UK Jun 5, 2016 • 3:27:04am

re: #365 Ming5000

Reminds me of the whole GOP attitude of “I got mine on my own, so eff you, do it yourself.” McCain’s pathway was gilt from the beginning.

He was conceived on the taxpayer’s dime, born and raised on his parent’s Navy salary, received a tuition-free college-level education as a midshipman while being paid for it, was commissioned into the Navy and paid by the taxpayer even when he was in the Hanoi Hilton. I think there was a short period after he resigned his commission where he worked in the private sector but then he became a Senator and started sucking down more taxpayer’s money from then on till the present moment. Free enterprise at its finest.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Jun 5, 2016 • 3:30:25am

re: #366 Nojay UK

He was conceived on the taxpayer’s dime, born and raised on his parent’s Navy salary, received a tuition-free college-level education as a midshipman while being paid for it, was commissioned into the Navy and paid by the taxpayer even when he was in the Hanoi Hilton. I think there was a short period after he resigned his commission where he worked in the private sector but then he became a Senator and started sucking down more taxpayer’s money from then on till the present moment. Free enterprise at its finest.

Don’t forget the five planes he crashed.

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Ming5000 Jun 5, 2016 • 3:45:46am

LOL… I see DF showed up in the last few threads. Caused at least one “Later! I’ve had it for a bit”.

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goddamnedfrank Jun 5, 2016 • 3:49:26am

Bernie needs to train his volunteers better, you should never do this shit while representing a candidate. This is a symptom of a campaign off the rails.

Someone from the @SenSanders campaign cold texted me. Then belittled me. pic.twitter.com/RPxZxIdO8V

— shannonwoodward (@shannonwoodward) June 5, 2016

It’s a volunteer’s job to get out the vote, tell undecideds why you’re working to support your candidate and to encourage & thank committed supporters. You’re not there to argue with people, antagonize them or get dragged into the mud and get time-fucked. If someone isn’t interested in the message you thank them for taking your call & listening to you and you move the fuck on.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 3:49:28am

Mexico to blame for Trump rally violence, says Chuck Johnson, quoting ‘sources’ #SanJose
[In which Chuck C. Johnson once again brags he has spies and sources everywhere, and once again uses tweets as evidence.]

The Mexican government has been fomenting anti-Trump riots in the U.S., according to our highly placed, unimpeachable source with a Twitter account who communes with the multiverse. Mexico is trying to affect the election process.

[Direct quote time, lalala!]

Survey says, Mexico!

All you people in the cities of the Western states! Circle the wagons! The Messicans are coming!

Wake up, sheeple! All those Mexicans in the USA send home $25 billion every year. They don’t want Trump building a wall, so the best way to stop him is to start fights outside his rallies. There can be no other reason for those violent incidents in San Diego, San Jose and others too numerous to remember.

Toque aquí para más palabras, amigos

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Ming5000 Jun 5, 2016 • 3:52:19am

re: #369 goddamnedfrank

Sick Bern, tho

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goddamnedfrank Jun 5, 2016 • 4:00:26am

re: #370 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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LOL, his source is Mike Cernovich, the ridiculous MRA asshole who said he taught himself how to hear the EM spectrum with a special breathing technique.

I’m able to “hear” electro magnetic waves now. Been making some tweaks to Wim Hof breathing. https://t.co/dF1EQsQTJb

— Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) April 25, 2016

First time you “hear” static waves, it’s dangerous. Don’t start off with this routine. Easy to fall down/pass out.

— Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) April 26, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 4:02:39am

re: #372 goddamnedfrank

LOL, his source is Mike Cernovich, the ridiculous MRA asshole who said he taught himself how to hear the EM spectrum with a special breathing technique.

Yup, he also said he was soon going to access the multiverse.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 4:04:58am

For all his predictions of Twitter’s demise, and his allegations that Jack Dorsey is out to get him, Chuck spends an inordinate amount of time on Twitter, despite having no account (supposedly). Every post is peppered with tweets, if he’s not reprinting most of someone else’s article.

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goddamnedfrank Jun 5, 2016 • 4:09:38am

re: #373 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yup, he also said he was soon going to access the multiverse.

Mike is a perfect example of crank magnetism. Just an entire buffet spread full of ridiculous ideas.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 4:11:25am

re: #375 goddamnedfrank

Mike is a perfect example of crank magnetism. Just an entire buffet spread full of ridiculous ideas.

Chuck will soon join him, I suspect.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 5, 2016 • 5:06:57am

re: #349 Anymouse

I went through your neighborhood in the early morning of the day after christmas, with a foot of new-fallen snow covering everything. Descriptions fail, so I’ll just say I liked it a lot, and I was delighted to discover that “winter wonderland” is a real thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jun 5, 2016 • 5:14:01am

Late to the thread, but GOP is now the battered housewife making excuses for her abusive husband.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jun 5, 2016 • 5:15:01am

re: #350 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Zion is absolutely worth a stop, but Yellowstone holds my heart.

Been to both: Yellowstone is awesome, but Zion is where God goes on vacation.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 5, 2016 • 5:22:37am

re: #370 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wondered what Chucksie was up to lately. Things have been quiet on the Douchebag Front. Has he trimmed his mustache and gotten a swastika tattoo yet?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 5:25:17am

re: #380 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wondered what Chucksie was up to lately. Things have been quiet on the Douchebag Front. Has he trimmed his mustache and gotten a swastika tattoo yet?

No Facebook yet. No Twitter at all, supposedly. His new project with Pax Dickinson that they seem to be self-funding must be keeping him busy.

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A Mom Anon Jun 5, 2016 • 5:55:47am

Good Morning Lizards…Once again time has got away from me and I’ve been unable to get to one of my favorite places on the interwebs for any length of time.

Sigh. It looks like my wingnut neighbors are in negotiations with a developer to sell all the land around us to build an “active adult” subdivision. Another one is under construction down the street (about 1000 ft). Husband and I are gearing up to fight back. I am PISSED. They started this process a year ago and never said a word. This will make my house unsellable since our backyard will be facing the clearcutting and construction. There goes my view, the quiet and not even counting the impact on wildlife and gardening (since clearing the woods will make all kinds of fungus and diseases airborne, stuff that belongs in the soil). My pool won’t be usable for 2 years either, with all the shit in the air settling. We’re trying to get the developer to consider making us an offer, since we had planned on downsizing and selling next year. Did I mention I’m PISSED at these people? Sure, it’s their land, but we’ve been neighbors for 20 years, and they aren’t the only fucking people in this neighborhood. Their actions effect other people. I’m livid.

So my days have been filled with looking at maps and sale records, zoning charts, talking to the surveyors crawling everyplace, chasing down the real estate agent (who of course isn’t being helpful). Next is talking with the zoning commissioner’s office to see what has to be done to fight this.

This is in addition to just doing the daily things I have to do to keep things going. And trying to stop a series of rolling disasters. The good news is The Kid is working, making a ton of friends and surpassing all the predictions of gloom and doom associated with autism. I also paid off my car, woot! The Harley is paid off and is being sold to pay off the Husband’s Stupid Debts and maybe, if we can sell this house we can stop paying debt and start enjoying life. I miss you all and I am hoping some of this crap slows down so I can hopefully get here more than just to skim through. Hugs to everyone.

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jeffreyw Jun 5, 2016 • 6:00:01am

Imgur
Good morning!

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William of Orange Jun 5, 2016 • 6:03:07am

re: #100 Joe Bacon

And Awwwwwaaaaayyyyyy weeeeeeee goooooooo!

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With Donald ‘s BFF behind the wheel.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 6:16:44am

Getting around to Chuck’s most recent post, about Megyn Kelly and Judge Curiel, I find that, like SMOTI, Chuck has a reading comprehension problem. He repeats over and over that the judge is a member of La Raza, but every image he uses to support the contention says, “San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association.,” an entirely different organization.

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b.d. Jun 5, 2016 • 6:21:57am

Good morning Lizards:

This happy Bernie Bro’s parents don’t have the heart to tell him about the US Virgin Islands results yet. pic.twitter.com/gOU3o2levg

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 5, 2016

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 6:24:26am

Mornin’ everyone…sorry about the Satan comment upthread…I’d like to blame the alcohol but in all honesty I was just getting tired and ornery…probably should have logged off three posts earlier.

It was a long day though…beach, farmer’s market, helped my mother in law wire transfer the money to purchase her new condo, then an afternoon at a furniture store picking out a new bed, fabric, colors, dressers (vs chests vs other dressers vs other chests)…when you pay someone to help you make these decisions, it shouldn’t take another three hours of back and forth.

At one point, when talking fabric for the headboard, I sarcastically said, “There’s always vinyl.” Guess what. She ended up going with a platinum colored vinyl. As my wife, mother in law, and the consultant all thanked me for the great idea later I fwapped myself on the forehead with my palm and said, “I need to learn to keep my fuckin’ mouth shut.”

Anyhoo…same rule applies to the Internet apparently.

Happy Sunday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 5, 2016 • 6:29:35am

TAPPER: If you are saying he cannot do his job b/c of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

TRUMP: No, I don’t think so at all

— State of the Union (@CNNSotu) June 5, 2016

Trump: Mitch McConnell Wrong about Me & Latinos: “he’s worried about a lot of things … I think I’m going to do very well with Latinos…”

— State of the Union (@CNNSotu) June 5, 2016

hey Reince!

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SteelPH Jun 5, 2016 • 6:34:38am

re: #385 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Getting around to Chuck’s most recent post, about Megyn Kelly and Judge Curiel, I find that, like SMOTI, Chuck has a reading comprehension problem. He repeats over and over that the judge is a member of La Raza, but every image he uses to support the contention says, “San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association.,” an entirely different organization.

Knowing Chuck, he probably thinks they’re one and the same.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 6:35:17am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hey Reince!

I think Mark Twain described the Trump campaign most succinctly 132 years ago.

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PhillyPretzel Jun 5, 2016 • 6:38:46am

re: #390 darthstar

Mark Twain always had a way with words. :)

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 6:58:44am

re: #385 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Getting around to Chuck’s most recent post, about Megyn Kelly and Judge Curiel, I find that, like SMOTI, Chuck has a reading comprehension problem. He repeats over and over that the judge is a member of La Raza, but every image he uses to support the contention says, “San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association.,” an entirely different organization.

Remember that to Chuck the whole matter is just an excuse to hate on a woman and Latino man, both of whom the Rage Furby finds to be uppity. Everything else is window dressing.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 7:00:29am

re: #385 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Getting around to Chuck’s most recent post, about Megyn Kelly and Judge Curiel, I find that, like SMOTI, Chuck has a reading comprehension problem. He repeats over and over that the judge is a member of La Raza, but every image he uses to support the contention says, “San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association.,” an entirely different organization.

Chuck who?

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 7:02:53am

re: #393 darthstar

Chuck who?

That freakjob with the same first and last names as our Charles. Wheat Dogg keeps an eye on the little slimeball.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 5, 2016 • 7:04:04am

Would a Muslim judge also be out of the question here? @realdonaldtrump: “…It’s possible, yes.”
https://t.co/49qUfRCrLV

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) June 5, 2016

welp…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:07:13am

re: #387 darthstar

No harm done. Just don’t fwap your head too hard.

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Skip Intro Jun 5, 2016 • 7:09:57am

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys is from North Carolina.

I dug myself a HUGE hole over Christmas by expressing my opinion of the sport of basketball. (Namely, that you can watch the last two minutes and get the whole thing.)

I think you’re confusing baseball with football.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 7:14:56am

re: #397 Skip Intro

I think you’re confusing baseball with football.

Back when I wasn’t a true baseball fan - I have seen the light and love going to games now - when people asked me who my favorite baseball team was I would say that I liked the Lakers and anyone who beat the 49ers…

Hey…I smoked a lot of dope when I was young.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:15:58am

No parody this time. Just debunking.

Proof!: @MegynKelly says judge not member of La Raza, and Chuck Johnson can’t read — or spell

Megyn Kelly and Bill Bennett discuss some guy named Judge Curio

In his latest blockbuster of a post read by dozens, Award Winning JournalistTM Chuck C. Johnson spends considerable time and space trying to prove Megyn Kelly of Fox News wrong, while characteristically shooting himself in the foot.

Kelly, who was interviewing Bill Bennett, went off on Donald Trump’s attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is hearing the fraud case involving Trump University. Trump has called Curiel a Mexican, though the judge was born in Indiana (El Estado de Indiana was apparently annexed by Mexico retroactively while no one noticed. Thanks, Obama!). Trump has also claimed that Curiel is a member of La Raza, which to Anglos’ ears is like saying President Obama is a mau mau.

But, as Kelly notes in the video, Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association. It’s not the same thing as La Raza.

[VIDEO GOES HERE]

But Johnson, who has jumped on the Trump bandwagon as fast as he abandoned his adulation of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Loser), is not having any of that lip from no woman, especially one who bleeds from her wherever. He tries to paint the lawyers association as some kind of radical organization out to overthrow Los Gringos, and insists that Curiel really belongs to La Raza.

But the two images this high IQ Award Winning JournalistTM uses to support his contention clearly say, “San Diego La Raza Lawyers Associaation,” as in a completely different organization.

Toquen aquí para más

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:19:39am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

Only judges bought and paid for by a Trump associate may apply.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 7:20:35am

re: #399 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

No parody this time. Just debunking.

Toquen aquí para más

Donald Trump knew when it was time to make peace with Megyn Kelly (albeit on his terms), but UpChuck is still Stuck On ‘Stupid’.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:24:14am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

Donald Trump knew when it was time to make peace with Megyn Kelly (albeit on his terms), but UpChuck is still Stuck On ‘Stupid’.

Megyn criticized Chuck’s website, so she’s forever on his shit list.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:28:41am

Trump would probably accept David Duke as a judge.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:29:39am

Oh, brother …

The fate of our world may depend on the effort of a single person who builds machinery of freedom that makes the world safe for capitalism.

— Wesearchr (@wesearchr) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:30:24am

re: #398 darthstar

Back when I wasn’t a true baseball fan - I have seen the light and love going to games now - when people asked me who my favorite baseball team was I would say that I liked the Lakers and anyone who beat the 49ers…

Hey…I smoked a lot of dope when I was young.

I said it last night but I think people who find baseball boring are wrong. Made the big mistake last night of turning the game off with the team down 7-0. I check my phone 30 minutes later and the score is 7-6. Ended up being 8-6 but just the other day Seattle came down 10 to beat San Diego.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:31:26am

re: #404 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, brother …

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Capitalism as a religion. Not too much different from how the Marxists see theirs. I prefer to work in reality myself.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 7:33:30am

Ghosts from “The Ring” and “The Grudge” are playing baseball, and it’s horrifying: https://t.co/nAcmXolay9 pic.twitter.com/fCELEt6PQP

— SB Nation (@SBNation) June 5, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:36:28am

Look who’s back on Twitter:

SHOUT OUT to EVERYONE who has been unjustly banned and censored by Facebook!! Please share! Let’s raise the… https://t.co/lvYyXzF1Xi

— Shannon Knutsen (@STKnutsen) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:48:03am

re: #408 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Look who’s back on Twitter:

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This is exactly why Zuckerberg shouldn’t have humored their whiny bullshit.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:48:40am

re: #407 darthstar

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Only in Japan. Maybe Regan from the Exorcist can throw out the first pitch at a Nats game this season.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 7:51:13am

Breitbart has story on Ali draft dodging.

Waiting for expose on Trump deferments.

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 7:52:13am

re: #404 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Needs only a Rearden Metal reference for the full galtian effect.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:52:50am

re: #411 SoundGuy 2016

Breitbart has story on Ali draft dodging.

Waiting for expose on Trump deferments.

They really should talk to all the GOP candidates they’ve supported over the years about that. Ali didn’t want to fight what he thought was an unjust war. I have much more respect that than someone like Dick Cheney or Mitt Romney who had no problem with the Vietnam War but got deferments anyhow. Really hating on Muhammad Ali? Dare I say it, what a bunch of Anti-American assholes. Might as well hate Babe Ruth.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 7:53:00am

re: #368 Ming5000

LOL… I see DF showed up in the last few threads. Caused at least one “Later! I’ve had it for a bit”.

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Morning!

Yeah, that was me. I figured it was better to just go away instead of melting my keyboard. I need the keyboard. The rest I did not need.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:53:14am

Stomach bug gah!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:53:37am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

This is exactly why Zuckerberg shouldn’t have humored their whiny bullshit.

It burns me that conservatives who are all into preaching “follow the rules” can’t get it through their thick skulls that Twitter, Facebook and other social media have TOS that are like contracts. When you sign up for an account and agree to the TOS, you’re giving the service the right to pull your account whenever it wants to, like when you violate the TOS. It’s like a credit card; the bank can cancel your account if it wants, and if you abuse it.

There is no constitutional right to have Facebook or Twitter accounts.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 7:54:27am

re: #412 jaunte

Needs only a Rearden Metal reference for the full galtian effect.

inorite?

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:54:53am

re: #416 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It burns me that conservatives who are all into preaching “follow the rules” can’t get it through their thick skulls that Twitter, Facebook and other social media have TOS that are like contracts. When you sign up for an account and agree to the TOS, you’re giving the service the right to pull your account whenever it wants to, like when you violate the TOS. It’s like a credit card; the bank can cancel your account if it wants, and if you abuse it.

There is no constitutional right to have Facebook or Twitter accounts.

Exactly. Rules for thee but not for me I guess?

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 7:56:38am

@JuddLegum @Rschooley McConnell celebrated Obama’s inauguration with a whites only meeting to plot how to make his term miserable.

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 7:59:34am

re: #419 darthstar

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Not just McConnell but also Ryan, McCarthy, Cantor, and many more. On what should have been a day of celebration, those guys were plotting how to fuck Obama over. But hey people who criticized George W. Bush were unpatriotic. //

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:01:46am

As for McCain, by enabling Trump’s attacks, he basically shits on every single American who has ever been a POW which is what Trump’s lame ass attack was. I may not have any respect left for McCain but there are plenty of former POWs that I do and when McCain chooses his party over principle, he shows himself to be nothing but a spineless hack who operates in fear of the idiots that dominate the GOP base at the moment.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:04:08am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Rules for thee but not for me I guess?

It’s also the reactionary complaint about “political correctness.” Chuck and his fellow travelers want to have carte blanch to say whatever they like, no matter how it offends people. And when people invariably object, they cry “Persecution! Oppression!”

It really gets under my skin, living in a country where there is no freedom of the press at all and where outspoken people really are persecuted and oppressed, including imprisonment and execution.

So fucking what if Chuckie has no Twitter access (supposedly)? So what if Facebook suspended him? He could learn from his bonehead mistakes and make sure it doesn’t happen again. He’s a got a blog. He’s got the WeSearchr scam. And he writes for rags like Takimag. His First Amendment rights are hardly being trampled.

If he tried his bullshit in China or Russia against the leaders or their cronies, he’d disappear quick.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:07:06am

re: #422 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s also the reactionary complaint about “political correctness.” Chuck and his fellow travelers want to have carte blanch to say whatever they like, no matter how it offends people. And when people invariably object, they cry “Persecution! Oppression!”

It really gets under my skin, living in a country where there is no freedom of the press at all and where outspoken people really are persecuted and oppressed, including imprisonment and execution.

So fucking what if Chuckie has no Twitter access (supposedly)? So what if Facebook suspended him? He could learn from his bonehead mistakes and make sure it doesn’t happen again. He’s a got a blog. He’s got the WeSearchr scam. And he writes for rags like Takimag. His First Amendment rights are hardly being trampled.

If he tried his bullshit in China or Russia against the leaders or their cronies, he’d disappear quick.

I’ve been meaning to ask you but how do you get around the censorship of the internet? Since I have no doubt that political blogs like LGF are blocked. But you’re right, guys like Chucky have plenty of outlets. And here’s the other thing when they bitch about political correctness. They’re always bitching about minorities rightfully objecting to racist language but the second someone mocks them, ti’s proof how white conservaive males are the most oppressed group in America. I’ve seen conservative white people say with a straight face that cracker and honkey are as bad word as the n-word and it’s like uh no.

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CarolJ Jun 5, 2016 • 8:08:54am

What the Breitbarters hate: Ali was brave. He was 26 at the peak of his career and risking it all with a possible prison sentence as well. Boxing, like a lot of other sports, has a fairly narrow window of opportunity, and he had no idea that he would be able to box after all was said and done. Or even if he would survive prison- this was the days of Fred Hampton and Cointelpro. It was not inconceivable that something would have happened to him inside the prison walls. He could have wound up penniless even if he avoided prison somehow. A poor black kid from Louisville, his only ticket out of poverty was his boxing skill. He had every reason to go along-probably even some of his more militant friends would have understood if he had.

And he openly defied it. He didn’t dodge. He didn’t decide he wanted to box around the world or buy a house in Canada. He didn’t have a convenient marriage or try to join the National Guard or even Coast Guard.

That ability to risk it all is what turned Ali from mere sports hero to true icon.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 8:09:03am

La Raza has be codified to mean Hispanic racism now. Pretty fast for the meatheads.

This means all the Hispanic themed businesses like La Raza Taco and La Raza market are racist.

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 8:11:43am

re: #425 SoundGuy 2016

José Vasconcelos: La Raza Cosmicahttps://t.co/7xycGVuUJp #Trump2016 pic.twitter.com/227UHNinCj

— (((Robert Arthur))) (@jaunte) June 5, 2016

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:13:39am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I’ve been meaning to ask you but how do you get around the censorship of the internet? Since I have no doubt that political blogs like LGF are blocked. But you’re right, guys like Chucky have plenty of outlets. And here’s the other thing when they bitch about political correctness. They’re always bitching about minorities rightfully objecting to racist language but the second someone mocks them, ti’s proof how white conservaive males are the most oppressed group in America. I’ve seen conservative white people say with a straight face that cracker and honkey are as bad word as the n-word and it’s like uh no.

LGF is not blocked, because it deals mostly with American politics. There was a brief period when LGF was blocking my IP, because some Chinese hackers were running a DDOS or something against the site. For other sites, like the NYTimes and Facebook, I use a VPN to “climb the Great Firewall of China,” like millions of other Chinese netizens. Quite a few of my Chinese students have Facebook accounts, for example. For occasions when my free VPNs don’t work, I pay $10 a month for a VPS in the States. It’s handy for downloading YouTube videos, but surfing is way slow. I move files between the VPS and here with One Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox are both blocked.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 8:14:55am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I said it last night but I think people who find baseball boring are wrong. Made the big mistake last night of turning the game off with the team down 7-0. I check my phone 30 minutes later and the score is 7-6. Ended up being 8-6 but just the other day Seattle came down 10 to beat San Diego.

The Friday of Memorial weekend Kansas City scored 7 runs in the 9th to beat the Chisox 8-7. I think it was the biggest one inning comeback in Royals history.

The AL Central is going to be a shootout all year it appears. I’m hoping as a Cleveland fan their pitching is enough to win the division. They are getting all their pitchers healthy again after some issues earlier. Offensively they are a surprise.

I use baseball as a great summer background filler for working around and on my house. When something exciting happens you can pay attention to it, the rest just flows by. I love it on radio. I think it’s because I always had the games on as a kid.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:16:01am

re: #425 SoundGuy 2016

La Raza has be codified to mean Hispanic racism now. Pretty fast for the meatheads.

This means all the Hispanic themed businesses like La Raza Taco and La Raza market are racist.

It’s totally OK for whites to be white supremacists, but no one else can be proud of their heritage. No can do. It’s the usual double standard.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:16:10am

re: #426 jaunte

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Seems to me then that La Raza is pretty much anti-racist then.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 8:17:27am

re: #427 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LGF is not blocked, because it deals mostly with American politics. There was a brief period when LGF was blocking my IP, because some Chinese hackers were running a DDOS or something against the site. For other sites, like the NYTimes and Facebook, I use a VPN to “climb the Great Firewall of China,” like millions of other Chinese netizens. Quite a few of my Chinese students have Facebook accounts, for example. For occasions when my free VPNs don’t work, I pay $10 a month for a VPS in the States. It’s handy for downloading YouTube videos, but surfing is way slow. I move files between the VPS and here with One Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox are both blocked.

You just need a bunch of these…

Image: Floppy-Floppies.jpg

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:17:51am

re: #427 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

LGF is not blocked, because it deals mostly with American politics. There was a brief period when LGF was blocking my IP, because some Chinese hackers were running a DDOS or something against the site. For other sites, like the NYTimes and Facebook, I use a VPN to “climb the Great Firewall of China,” like millions of other Chinese netizens. Quite a few of my Chinese students have Facebook accounts, for example. For occasions when my free VPNs don’t work, I pay $10 a month for a VPS in the States. It’s handy for downloading YouTube videos, but surfing is way slow. I move files between the VPS and here with One Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox are both blocked.

Oh okay, I thought it would be banned for some reason. I can’t imagine being in that situation with all that. It’s why I laugh when they act like they’re so persecuted because FB doesn’t tolerate bigoted crap.

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 8:18:32am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

A movement based in part on pride in being mestizo is being falsely painted as equivalent to a white racist group.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:19:10am

re: #428 ObserverArt

The Friday of Memorial weekend Kansas City scored 7 runs in the 9th to beat the Chisox 8-7. I think it was the biggest one inning comeback in Royals history.

The AL Central is going to be a shootout all year it appears. I’m hoping as a Cleveland fan their pitching is enough to win the division. They are getting all their pitchers healthy again after some issues earlier. Offensively they are a surprise.

I use baseball as a great summer background filler for working around and on my house. When something exciting happens you can pay attention to it, the rest just flows by. I love it on radio. I think it’s because I always had the games on as a kid.

Yeah I heard about KC’s comeback. I like having it on in the background too. The Orioles were in Cleveland last weekend actually. You guys got some decent hitters. I remember the Indians teams when I was a kid in the 1990’s. Great hitting bunch. I always liked Jim Thome. Just played like a professional and is apparently a very nice guy.

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CarolJ Jun 5, 2016 • 8:21:27am

Not as much now as then, but I remember back when I had an apartment with a fenced back porch. In 1990 I would sit outside and eat while listening to the Reds sweep their way to the Championship. These days in an airconditioned condo, I listen to mostly YouTube and internet radio, spoiled by the variety of things to listen to.

We are a pretty moderate-sized blog, and hardly talk about China except in passing, which is why LGF isn’t blocked.

Aren’t the BernieBros now more pathetic than any losing campaign i’ve ever seen? Sometimes there is no option but to throw in the towel. Depending on delegate count-Hillary could wrap this up today. She needs 57 delegates and Puerto Rico has 67 (or 60, depending on count).
But instead of trying to end the campaign on some kind of quiet note, we hear accusations of fraud and possible 2 stolen ballot boxes.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:21:34am

re: #433 jaunte

A movement based in part on pride in being mestizo is being falsely painted as equivalent to a white racist group.

And pride in being mestizo is a direct response to generations of Creole dominance. I took Latin American history in college. The Spanish colonial system was very racially hierarchical based. I’d honestly be curious to see what my own niece’s background is. We know her mother has Spanish, Peruvian indigenous, and also some Yugoslavian.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:22:09am

re: #431 darthstar

You just need a bunch of these…

Image: Floppy-Floppies.jpg

Oh, yeah. 1.44 megabytes each. So, I’d need about 50 for a short YouTube video and 500 for a CD-sized movie. No problemo!

Remember Zip drives? We thought 100 MB on one portable disk was great!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:24:25am

re: #433 jaunte

A movement based in part on pride in being mestizo is being falsely painted as equivalent to a white racist group.

The alt right is trying to find the Hispanic equivalent of the Black Panthers, and there ain’t none. FTM, the Black Panthers are gone, too.

I guess that leaves only the Gaystapo and the Feminazis.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 8:24:57am

re: #431 darthstar

You just need a bunch of these…

Image: Floppy-Floppies.jpg

By the way, I miss the floppy and its shiny successor, the CD-ROM. Nobody even says ROM anymore. Most kids today probably don’t even know what an A: drive is. How fast is your CPU? How big is your hard drive? What do you mean you don’t have a hard drive? The computer I got my wife last year has a 20GB solid state drive in it. Yes, only 20. Why? Because dropbox, googledrive, box.com, etc. make local storage irrelevant. Thumb drives? Who needs ‘em?

One of these days a big solar flare is going to fry a few of our satellites and we’ll all be standing around with our dicks in our hands wondering how to boil water.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Jun 5, 2016 • 8:25:28am

Time for bed. Morning classes await me. Hasta la vista!

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 8:26:19am

The cover of German “Der Spiegel” magazine.
In case you’re wondering, WAHNSINN means MADNESS. pic.twitter.com/54nZAbcQ5N

— Cornelia (@PaladinCornelia) June 5, 2016

Maybe the GOP should listen to the Germans on this topic.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 8:26:34am

re: #426 jaunte

That La Raza stuff sounds just horrible!

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 8:26:36am

re: #437 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, yeah. 1.44 megabytes each. So, I’d need about 50 for a short YouTube video and 500 for a CD-sized movie. No problemo!

Remember Zip drives? We thought 100 MB on one portable disk was great!

Your mobile phone has more computing power (and storage) than the space shuttles ever did. And they went to space…and back!

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 8:27:21am

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 8:27:34am

I think many non-Hispanic whites don’t realize how diverse the Hispanic community really is. I know it confuses my mom. I put her this way though. I explained how her family went from Eastern Europe to the US while her granddaughter has some family that went from around the same area to South America. Hispanic is a cultural not a racial designation. Since we’re talking about baseball. I remember a baseball player named Bruce Chen. His grandparents were from Taiwan I believe but he was born in Panama as were his parents. Peru had a President who was of Japanese descent.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 8:29:15am

re: #439 darthstar

By the way, I miss the floppy and its shiny successor, the CD-ROM. Nobody even says ROM anymore. Most kids today probably don’t even know what an A: drive is. How fast is your CPU? How big is your hard drive? What do you mean you don’t have a hard drive? The computer I got my wife last year has a 20GB solid state drive in it. Yes, only 20. Why? Because dropbox, googledrive, box.com, etc. make local storage irrelevant. Thumb drives? Who needs ‘em?

One of these days a big solar flare is going to fry a few of our satellites and we’ll all be standing around with our dicks in our hands wondering how to boil water.

There is a book covering how tech was developed and how to recover it.

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Barefoot Grin Jun 5, 2016 • 8:30:46am

re: #439 darthstar

By the way, I miss the floppy and its shiny successor, the CD-ROM. Nobody even says ROM anymore. Most kids today probably don’t even know what an A: drive is. How fast is your CPU? How big is your hard drive? What do you mean you don’t have a hard drive? The computer I got my wife last year has a 20GB solid state drive in it. Yes, only 20. Why? Because dropbox, googledrive, box.com, etc. make local storage irrelevant. Thumb drives? Who needs ‘em?

One of these days a big solar flare is going to fry a few of our satellites and we’ll all be standing around with our dicks in our hands wondering how to boil water.

The future is now. BTW, thanks for the post on Japanese baseball. I’m not a fan of horror, so I haven’t seen either “Ring” or “Grudge,” but that was fun and I love it that the mascot is a “yankii.”

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 8:31:37am

re: #444 jaunte

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Hetzer:

The German Jagdpanzer 38 or Hetzer Tank Destroyer was introduced in May 1944 with over 2000 produced during #WW2 pic.twitter.com/5hVr1UbHfm

— WW2 Nation (@WW2Nation) May 31, 2016

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 8:32:18am

re: #448 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I was thinking of that one too.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 8:33:31am

re: #446 Dark_Falcon

There is a book covering how tech was developed and how to recover it.

What’s a book?

Okay…Beach beckons, got more garage to clean, laundry, other shit. Have a good day all. Don’t stop posting about Trump or he’ll get nervous…gotta be trending…always gotta be trending.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 8:34:12am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

Yeah I heard about KC’s comeback. I like having it on in the background too. The Orioles were in Cleveland last weekend actually. You guys got some decent hitters. I remember the Indians teams when I was a kid in the 1990’s. Great hitting bunch. I always liked Jim Thome. Just played like a professional and is apparently a very nice guy.

Ahhh yes, the 90’s Cleveland baseball years. Got real close to winning it all, only to come up short. Again. Like the Browns. Like the (Starts with a “C” basketball team***).

As everyone that is a sports fan knows, Cleveland is crying out for a champion of some kind…in any of the major sports. Haven’t won a big trophy since the ‘64 Browns.

ESPN did a fun (well fun for some…sad for others) 30 for 30 Special called “Believeland” about the beleaguered fans and their desire to be someone. It was well done and really showed the grit of the city. I have always loved Cleveland. The three big Ohio “C” cities are all so different from each other. Cleveland is the old east coast-like city.

Hey, this year they landed a new sport for the city. The Republican National Convention. Hopefully, they won’t lose too much because of that! Yikes. Yes, I am worried for them.

***Didn’t want to spell out the full name since they are currently in an actual Championship finals…might curse them or something.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 8:36:31am

re: #437 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, yeah. 1.44 megabytes each. So, I’d need about 50 for a short YouTube video and 500 for a CD-sized movie. No problemo!

Remember Zip drives? We thought 100 MB on one portable disk was great!

I’ve still got a ton of Zip drives. They were a god-send for graphic artists back in the 90s. I have all my old backups from my previous job. Gonna have to let them go sometime. All that money.

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Dark_Falcon Jun 5, 2016 • 8:38:10am

re: #449 jaunte

Yes, I was thinking of that one too.

Though the way Donald Trump uses Twitter, he’s more akin to the Flammpanzer variant of the Hetzer, always flaming others.

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Teukka Jun 5, 2016 • 8:42:50am

re: #441 jaunte

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Maybe the GOP should listen to the Germans on this topic.

And if not the Germans, maybe the Finns? I mean, Finland paid thru their nose for siding with the Nazis during part of WWII.

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Belafon Jun 5, 2016 • 8:45:05am

re: #231 electrotek

I know I have given much praise to Japan on here in the past, but I can’t help but to continue heaping praise on the Japanese:

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I really wished I lived in Japan instead of here. At least I wouldn’t have to experience hostility over there.

My wife is from Jonesboro, AR. When she was in high school in the 80s, one of her teachers took her class on a field trip to the local mosque. It should be part of every curriculum.

Then again, my middle son would demand to tour a pasta factory.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 8:46:03am

re: #443 darthstar

Your mobile phone has more computing power (and storage) than the space shuttles ever did. And they went to space…and back!

Heh. Back in the late 80s early 90s I had a client that knew Westinghouse computer systems. Apparently they were used to control the functions of power plants. Many of those plants were out in your neck of the hills running PG&E power plants.

Well, one day he heard Westinghouse was getting out of the business and he knew right away that was going to cause some issues with those power plants. He was an Ohio State computer wiz kid with a masters in Computer Sciences. He went to work to develop an interface card that allowed the Westinghouse (now unsupported systems) computers to be connected to a regular DOS based PC.

It all worked out great. He actually had one guy helping him build the interfaces in a small shop here in Columbus so he was in control of the whole thing. He made a killing over about a ten year period and then retired fat ‘n’ happy just off the need for a few of his interfaces for an industry that needed them and were willing to pay for them. Pay for them they did…but who has more money than electric companies?

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 8:53:17am

re: #439 darthstar

By the way, I miss the floppy and its shiny successor, the CD-ROM. Nobody even says ROM anymore. Most kids today probably don’t even know what an A: drive is. How fast is your CPU? How big is your hard drive? What do you mean you don’t have a hard drive? The computer I got my wife last year has a 20GB solid state drive in it. Yes, only 20. Why? Because dropbox, googledrive, box.com, etc. make local storage irrelevant. Thumb drives? Who needs ‘em?

One of these days a big solar flare is going to fry a few of our satellites and we’ll all be standing around with our dicks in our hands wondering how to boil water.

And as things such as Dropbox, Google Drive, and necessary internet connectivity continue to be pushed, it leaves areas like mine as computing deserts. (No WiFi, no cell service.)

A tablet computer or one which requires using “the cloud” to store your stuff is worthless here, just an expensive piece of plastic and wire.

I also much prefer keeping my stuff at home rather than some nebulous cloud.

It would be nice if some politicians somewhere, I don’t know, maybe Washington, were to push for affordable internet service for the whole country rather than just the parts they like.

Also, get off my lawn.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 8:55:05am

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Belafon Jun 5, 2016 • 8:58:31am

re: #404 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, brother …

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John Galt?

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CarolJ Jun 5, 2016 • 9:03:56am

Three reasons why I keep my stuff on CD and external hard drive.
<l>Companies fold, merge and purge. Why trust them further than you can throw your hard drive? While I do have some cloud backup for easy download if my computer dies, one thing about the external stuff is that its yours as long as you can keep it. And it’s easier than ever to transfer from one device to another.
<2>It’s free forever. No sudden new fees, increased fees.
<3>Things do disappear from the internet. Sites, videos, whatever. External storage, baby.
</ol>

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Blind Frog Belly White Jun 5, 2016 • 9:04:33am

Here we are in scenic Grass Valley, about to go take part in Bat Rescue Training, part of my birthday/mothers day present to Mrs. FBW. The other part was the $1000 rabies vaccine series (nah, not THAT one! This is 3 IM shots in the arm).

She has a dream of going to Australia to work with the Flying Foxes. Not sure what she plans to use as money to get there….

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Belafon Jun 5, 2016 • 9:05:19am

re: #460 CarolJ

Three reasons why I keep my stuff on CD and external hard drive.
<ol>
<li>Companies fold, merge and purge. Why trust them further than you can throw your hard drive? While I do have some cloud backup for easy download if my computer dies, one thing about the external stuff is that its yours as long as you can keep it. And it’s easier than ever to transfer from one device to another.
<li>It’s free forever. No sudden new fees, increased fees.
<lI>Things do disappear from the internet. Sites, videos, whatever. External storage, baby.
</ol>

I keep all my stuff on 3.5 inch floppies. And because there’s no reader in my house, they’re perfectly secure as well.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:10:05am

NC Students build wall across common area of school with teacher supervision

They wanted to put a Trump sticker on it. Principal said no (but apparently allowed the students to go ahead with their “project”). Afterwards, they posted a picture to the Internet saying “We built this wall first.”

The racist derp in the Disqus section is, well, derp.

A school district spokesman said the students won’t face any disciplinary action.

Of course they won’t.

The school is in Marion, south of Raleigh.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 9:11:49am

Link bait I do NOT like seeing on a Sunday morning especially when I know it’s not true.

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 9:12:42am

I just did a panicked search for my phone. I was holding it at the time. You have one job, coffee. Do it!
— Richard Kadrey (@Richard_Kadrey) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 9:13:17am

re: #463 Anymouse

NC Students build wall across common area of school with teacher supervision

They wanted to put a Trump sticker on it. Principal said no (but apparently allowed the students to go ahead with their “project”). Afterwards, they posted a picture to the Internet saying “We built this wall first.”

The racist derp in the Disqus section is, well, derp.

Of course they won’t.

As I said, I’m not entirely optimistic about this generation of kids. Some are terrific to be honest but others OTOH are still stuck in their parents wingnut ways.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:17:59am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

As I said, I’m not entirely optimistic about this generation of kids. Some are terrific to be honest but others OTOH are still stuck in their parents wingnut ways.

The immoral arc of wingnuttery is long, but it bends towards hatred.

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Snarknado! Jun 5, 2016 • 9:21:06am

re: #457 Anymouse

And as things such as Dropbox, Google Drive, and necessary internet connectivity continue to be pushed, it leaves areas like mine as computing deserts. (No WiFi, no cell service.)

A tablet computer or one which requires using “the cloud” to store your stuff is worthless here, just an expensive piece of plastic and wire.

I also much prefer keeping my stuff at home rather than some nebulous cloud.

It would be nice if some politicians somewhere, I don’t know, maybe Washington, were to push for affordable internet service for the whole country rather than just the parts they like.

Also, get off my lawn.

I live in internet heaven, I suppose (San Francisco Bay Area), but I still stick with the Old Ways — computers with big hard drives, and external drives for backup. Using the cloud is trusting someone else to take care of your stuff — and I’m not ready for that.

(Since I still have an old Powerbook, I also have a zip drive, which is the only easy way to transfer stuff to and from it. Why do I have an old Powerbook? I have some ancient mac-pre-OSX programs that I don’t want to lose — and anyway, it’s STILL one of the most beautiful machines ever designed.)

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:23:05am

Trump on Face the Nation this morning: Muslim judges can’t be trusted either

Donald is on the attack against the whole idea of a judiciary system.

Mitch McConnell in a recent interview, given ample evidence and several chances to respond, refused to characterise the statements Mr. Trump made against the Indiana judge as racist.

I am more convinced every day the GOP is nothing more than a hate group; as such, those who support the GOP are also members of a hate group.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 9:23:38am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

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Link bait I do NOT like seeing on a Sunday morning especially when I know it’s not true.

They do that bait and switch “oh no…not…….” all the time. I wonder if they ever get messages from lawyers saying cut that crap out?

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CleverToad Jun 5, 2016 • 9:23:41am

Charles Pierce working on a Saturday, for a weighty reason:

esquire.com

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:23:49am

re: #468 Snarknado!

I live in internet heaven, I suppose (San Francisco Bay Area), but I still stick with the Old Ways — computers with big hard drives, and external drives for backup. Using the cloud is trusting someone else to take care of your stuff — and I’m not ready for that.

(Since I still have an old Powerbook, I also have a zip drive, which is the only easy way to transfer stuff to and from it. Why do I have an old Powerbook? I have some ancient mac-pre-OSX programs that I don’t want to lose — and anyway, it’s STILL one of the most beautiful machines ever designed.)

My wife used to own a PDP-11 in her house.

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Alephnaught Jun 5, 2016 • 9:29:18am

It’s been a lovely sunny day in Glasgow. When I was walking down Ingram Street, I saw an art gallery/retailer had this in their front window.

Instagram

RIP Muhammad Ali #photo #iphoneography

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PhillyPretzel Jun 5, 2016 • 9:34:17am

re: #468 Snarknado!

Lots of good internet connections in Philly. Practically all of my amazon movies and TV shows they are on amazon’s clouds. The same with my Honor Harrington novels and other books. In some ways I am still old fashioned because there is new Honor Harrington novel coming out soon and I have a pre-order for it.

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Jenner7 Jun 5, 2016 • 9:35:00am

I’m hearing on Puerto Rico - margin wont be what many are expecting. Local score settling instead of working for Hillary. Disgrace.

— Armando (@armandodkos) June 5, 2016

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Jenner7 Jun 5, 2016 • 9:36:39am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

I noticed that. Love Goodman. He was really great in Roseanne, one of my favorite TV shows.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jun 5, 2016 • 9:42:15am

Trump’s continued attacks on Curizel could wind up getting his attroneys Klayman’ed

Eventually, Chin dismissed Klayman’s client’s case with a few choice words for the way counsel had conducted it. Not long after, the judge got a letter from Klayman and his co-counsel, Paul Orfanedes, asking a few “questions” about the judge’s Asian American background and mentioning another case they had brought against the Clinton administration. They then filed a brief questioning the judge’s impartiality:

Mr. Klayman and Mr. Orfanedes became concerned that because the Court was a recent appointee of President Clinton … and Mr. Klayman had been prominently mentioned in the media for his role in the Commerce Department case, which focused in part on the White House, the Democratic National Committee, John Huang, Melinda Yee, and other persons in the Asian and Asian-American communities, and because the lawsuit had elicited such angry responses from the White House, Democrats and the Asian-American community, that the Court might be angry at them and unable to be fair and impartial …

In a written response, Chin noted that he hadn’t been aware of Klayman’s other lawsuit. As for the questions about his race, he said, “This sentiment is absurd and demeans me individually and the Court as a whole.”

He then lowered the boom. Klayman and Orfanedes were required to withdraw as counsel from the case and would not be permitted to appear in Chin’s court on any matter ever again. They would be required to show his opinion to any other judge in the district in any future case. The court clerk would also report the sanctions to every court where they held bar membership.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:49:04am

So if Mr. Trump wants a judge of any group of people he has insulted to recuse him or herself, that would include:

Latinos (“Mexicans”)
Women
LGBT
African-Americans
Veterans, especially former POW’s
Disabled
Journalists and writers

Did I miss anyone here?

And Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, John McCain and all the rest are still supporting him.

Out of seventeen candidates, Mr. Trump was the best the GOP could come up with.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 9:49:44am

re: #477 Eric The Fruit Bat

Pure cavalier brinkmanship and trolling. Thriving in chaos of their own creation. Chaos for the sake of chaos.

Klayman is cretinous scum.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 9:51:53am

re: #477 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump’s continued attacks on Curizel couldwind up getting his attroneys Klayman’ed

In a written response, Chin noted that he hadn’t been aware of Klayman’s other lawsuit. As for the questions about his race, he said, “This sentiment is absurd and demeans me individually and the Court as a whole.”

He then lowered the boom. Klayman and Orfanedes were required to withdraw as counsel from the case and would not be permitted to appear in Chin’s court on any matter ever again. They would be required to show his opinion to any other judge in the district in any future case. The court clerk would also report the sanctions to every court where they held bar membership.

What? Courts do not allow a bunch of wingnut lawyers to call out a judge due to his race…when did this happen? What is going on in this country, It’s almost like we are asking for decency or something???

Do wingnuts and tea drinkers do decency? I can’t remember the last time…

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Jenner7 Jun 5, 2016 • 9:52:29am

Muhammad Ali said far more inflammatory/racist things about white people than Donald Trump ever has about Muslims. #fact

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) June 5, 2016

oh my god, just shut the fuck up!

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Jay C Jun 5, 2016 • 9:53:17am

re: #425 SoundGuy 2016

La Raza has be codified to mean Hispanic racism now. Pretty fast for the meatheads.

This means all the Hispanic themed businesses like La Raza Taco and La Raza market are racist.

Naaah, this is nothing new. Wingnuts have been hyperventilating over terms like “La Raza” ever since the ‘Net became a thing. Way back when, (2003? - around the time of the Gray Davis recall campaign in CA), I recall seeing a shit-ton of abuse heaped on his LtGov Cruz Bustamante. A mainstream politico, to be sure, but who had belonged to some Hispanic student group in college * (? 30 years previous ?), which was supposed to be some racist/radical horrorshow devoted to the violent “reconquista” of “Aztlan” - which, since Bustamante hadn’t spent his entire career denouncing them, was held by the wingers to be sure proof that he was some bloodthirsty separatist reverse-racist. Needless to say, online abuse neither helped nor hurt his election chances (he lost to Arnold Schwarzenegger anyway) - but right-wing vapors over anything even remotely “Mexican” is a longstanding shitshow.

* ETA: the group is MEChA - which I was surprised to find is still around

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retired cynic Jun 5, 2016 • 9:53:34am

re: #481 Jenner7

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oh my god, just shut the fuck up!

Who asked him to express an opinion? I sure didn’t. GAH.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 9:55:26am

re: #483 retired cynic

Who asked him to express an opinion? I sure didn’t. GAH.

Someone here on Twitter should ask him to name an example.

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ObserverArt Jun 5, 2016 • 9:55:34am

re: #478 Anymouse

So if Mr. Trump wants a judge of any group of people he has insulted to recuse him or herself, that would include:

Latinos (“Mexicans”)
Women
LGBT
African-Americans
Veterans, especially former POW’s
Disabled
Journalists and writers

Did I miss anyone here?

And Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, John McCain and all the rest are still supporting him.

Out of seventeen candidates, Mr. Trump was the best the GOP could come up with.

Seems that is all the GOP base allows.

I wonder when McConnell, Ryan and McCain realized they and the rest of the GOP were no longer in control of anything and are mere hostages to the mob? Or have they?

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sagehen Jun 5, 2016 • 9:55:37am

My favorite thing Ali said about white people (I’m paraphrasing here)…

“No, I didn’t say I hate them. I said I’m wary of them and afraid of them. If I’m in the jungle and I meet up with a lion, I’m afraid of that lion. I’m afraid what the lion might do, if he happens to be hungry at the moment. I don’t *hate* the lion, because the possibilities of what he might do are simply within a lion’s nature. That’s just who he is.”

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 9:56:45am

My last fuck has been given about Piers Morgan. He’s now at the level of SMOTI and Baby Whiplash.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 10:02:30am

re: #481 Jenner7

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oh my god, just shut the fuck up!

Muhammad Ali also wasn’t a presidential nominee, Piers. Fuck off.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:03:20am

La Raza is the same as any black person raising a fist: it’s qualified as racism because it’s viewed as defiance.

And we can’t have any of that.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 10:06:27am

re: #489 SoundGuy 2016

La Raza is the same as any black person raising a fist: it’s qualified as racism because it’s viewed as defiance.

And we can’t have any of that.

They need to know their place and shut up. //

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:13:44am

‘only 20 minutes of action’

#brockturner father: son not “violent” only got “20 mins of action” shouldn’t have to go to prison. @thehuntinground pic.twitter.com/IFECJs687b

— Michele Dauber (@mldauber) June 5, 2016

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Jenner7 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:16:44am

re: #491 SoundGuy 2016

Your honor, my son only violated a woman for 20 minutes, give him a break.

Jeebus.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 10:17:10am

re: #491 SoundGuy 2016

‘only 20 minutes of action’

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I take it this was a rape. WTF.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:18:27am

Like father, like son.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 10:18:37am

re: #492 Jenner7

Your honor, my son only violated a woman for 20 minutes, give him a break.

//

Jeebus.

It really pisses me off how some people see rape in this country. Either it’s funny (ala prison rape) or it’s not a big deal like this guy seems to think. And I don’t give a shit if he was drunk. That’s not an excuse. We don’t give people a pass who drink and drive and kill people and we sure as hell shouldn’t to people who sexually assault others.

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sagehen Jun 5, 2016 • 10:24:35am

re: #493 HappyWarrior

I take it this was a rape. WTF.

And it wasn’t a “he said she said” kind of trial. Other people SAW HIM IN THE ACT, PULLED HIM OFF HER AND HELD HIM UNTIL COPS ARRIVED.

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Timothy Watson Jun 5, 2016 • 10:25:59am

Christ Almighty, not being familiar with the case I Googled “Brock Turner” The first thing I got as a search result? (Spoiler’d due to language)

Click to Reveal

Brock Turner For 2016 Olympics - Facebook
facebook.com
Support for Brock Turner and his swimming in the 2016 Olympics. … In a tragic miscarriage of justice, Brock has been found guilty by some betas who probably never got any play in college. … The rape charges against Brock have been dropped.

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teleskiguy Jun 5, 2016 • 10:26:37am

Yes, this was a real ad, back in 1974. @MoonZappa pic.twitter.com/obnecVfImF

— Steve Dirkx (@stevedirkx) June 5, 2016

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Timothy Watson Jun 5, 2016 • 10:26:51am

re: #496 sagehen

And it wasn’t a “he said she said” kind of trial. Other people SAW HIM IN THE ACT, PULLED HIM OFF HER AND HELD HIM UNTIL COPS ARRIVED.

But he’s rich and can play a sport, so he’s one of the SpecialPeople.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 10:27:48am

re: #496 sagehen

And it wasn’t a “he said she said” kind of trial. Other people SAW HIM IN THE ACT, PULLED HIM OFF HER AND HELD HIM UNTIL COPS ARRIVED.

Jesus.

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teleskiguy Jun 5, 2016 • 10:30:02am

Be sure to give this a read.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 10:33:52am

Back from the beach. Fuck Brock and his daddy.

Some guy in a king cab pickup thought it’d be easier to get out of the lot later if he parked at an angle.

Some people (not me for a change) left some kind words on his windshield.

Thre’s plenty of space to turn around. I have an eight ~~food~~foot bed on my truck and I park straight in.

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:34:44am

So if judges cannot be impartial due to their race, what about politicians running for office?

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jaunte Jun 5, 2016 • 10:35:00am

re: #502 darthstar

You have a great truck. I’m jealous.

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Jay C Jun 5, 2016 • 10:36:51am

re: #502 darthstar

I have an eight food bed on my truck and I park straight in.

Is one of those foods dog food? Or does he get all eight? ;)

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 10:37:24am

re: #504 jaunte

You have a great truck. I’m jealous.

I wrote a poem about it after I bought it.

I love my truck.
My truck is red.
I love my red truck.

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darthstar Jun 5, 2016 • 10:38:22am

re: #505 Jay C

Is one of those foods dog food? Or does he get all eight? ;)

Thanks…fixed. FOOT - Eight foot bed.

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Dr. Matt Jun 5, 2016 • 10:39:31am

The fact that McCain, Paul Ryan, and Rick Perry would support Trump is living proof that Clinton Derangement Syndrome is real.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 10:39:35am

re: #503 SoundGuy 2016

So if judges cannot be impartial due to their race, what about politicians running for office?

Yup, disqualify me because I would be partial to all the Polish heritage people in my town. /s

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dangerman Jun 5, 2016 • 10:41:56am

re: #502 darthstar

is that a rearview/backup cam in the bed there?

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Dr. Matt Jun 5, 2016 • 10:43:29am

re: #503 SoundGuy 2016

So if judges cannot be impartial due to their race, what about politicians running for office?

Logical conservative analogy: Would you trust a KKK grand dragon to be a judge for a black person?

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Dr. Matt Jun 5, 2016 • 10:44:42am

re: #502 darthstar

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SoundGuy 2016 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:49:18am

re: #511 Dr. Matt

Yikes, the comments. Don’t read the comments.

COMMENTS. NOT.EVEN.ONCE.

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Jenner7 Jun 5, 2016 • 10:50:50am

Trump, pressed on his support for Libyan invasion, says he made a lot of money from Gaddafi pic.twitter.com/x4edsFIj3G

— Alexandra Jaffe (@ajjaffe) June 5, 2016

Oh, okay then.

This guy.

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BeenHereAwhile Jun 5, 2016 • 10:53:22am

re: #502 darthstar

Back from the beach. Fuck Brock and his daddy.

Some guy in a king cab pickup thought it’d be easier to get out of the lot later if he parked at an angle.

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Some people (not me for a change) left some kind words on his windshield.

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Thre’s plenty of space to turn around. I have an eight ~~food~~foot bed on my truck and I park straight in.

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Tape a notice to windshield, widow, or back glass where all passerby can see:

Multiple Choice Test:

1. I am an asshole.

2. I don’t know how to drive. I need two parking spaces.

That was my weapon of choice in Mismi office parking garages with limited spaces.

The offending Mercedes, Corvette, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini would occupy one space the next day.

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Skip Intro Jun 5, 2016 • 10:54:43am

re: #514 Jenner7

Hey John, I took his money then screwed him. That’s what I do; I screw everybody, and I’m really going to screw the US, let me tell you.

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gwangung Jun 5, 2016 • 10:56:01am

GOP rivals couldn’t touch Trump; HRC gives first major GE speech and he melts down. Pretty revealing.

— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) June 4, 2016

It occurs to me, also, that Sanders has had this exact same opportunity to nail Trump. Even as the trailing candidate, he had the chance of garnering more support by attacking Republicans.

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Mattand Jun 5, 2016 • 10:58:15am

re: #514 Jenner7

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Oh, okay then.

This guy.

Jesus Christ, why is this not front page news on every media outlet in the country????

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Timothy Watson Jun 5, 2016 • 11:01:47am

re: #514 Jenner7

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Oh, okay then.

This guy.

Pathological liar can’t keep his pathological lies straight:

In 2009, Trump came under scrutiny for renting property to Gaddafi so that he could pitch a Bedouin-style tent in an upscale New York suburb. Trump claimed ignorance in the matter, saying that he was unaware that his land had been rented to the dictator. After a day of controversy, Trump reportedly forced Gaddafi off the property.

huffingtonpost.com

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Dr. Matt Jun 5, 2016 • 11:02:07am

Bernie Bros continue to make fools of themselves:

‘That is not journalism’: Cenk Uygur goes off on CNN host for counting superdelegates

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:02:50am

re: #518 Mattand

Jesus Christ, why is this not front page news on every media outlet in the country????

No kidding.

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Stanley Sea Jun 5, 2016 • 11:03:37am

Wait for Trump to say female judges shouldn’t hear adjudicate his lawsuits either.
— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) June 5, 2016

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:04:01am

re: #511 Dr. Matt

Logical conservative analogy: Would you trust a KKK grand dragon to be a judge for a black person?

I have seen plenty of right wingers over the years liken the NAACP to the KKK. It’s nice they know the KKK is vile but fuck anyone who thinks the NAACP is like the KKK and the same with Judge Curiel. God conservatives are some stupid fucking peole.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:04:27am

re: #522 Stanley Sea

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Ryan and McConnell: We’re shocked by Trump’s comments but we still support him.

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Jay C Jun 5, 2016 • 11:04:39am

re: #513 SoundGuy 2016

Yikes, the comments. Don’t read the comments.

COMMENTS. NOT.EVEN.ONCE.

Needless to say, I ignored your advice: and before I go looking for the brain-bleach, the thought occurred to me that this bigoted sewage, vile as it may be, really HAS to be a major issue for Clinton/Democrats in the upcoming election. They should try to load as much of the onus for this sick crap on the Trump campaign, and the GOP in general: if only to make them have to disavow it, or by tacit acceptance, endorse it. Either way, they lose - something.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:04:51am

re: #520 Dr. Matt

Bernie Bros continue to make fools of themselves:

‘That is not journalism’: Cenk Uygur goes off on CNN host for counting superdelegates

Cenk should go wait for his plane.

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Snarknado! Jun 5, 2016 • 11:08:29am

re: #514 Jenner7

“I was for something, but I wasn’t for what we have right now.”

Apparently he thinks he can disavow anything that doesn’t turn out as he wants it to — and be absolved.

(Well, that’s been the unofficial guiding principle of the Republicans — why am I surprised?)

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Dr. Matt Jun 5, 2016 • 11:08:56am

re: #526 HappyWarrior

Cenk should go wait for his plane.

Hillary Clinton: 2,316 (includes 547 superdelegates)
Bernie Sanders: 1,547 (includes 46 superdelegates)

In Bernie Bro reality, Hillary’s majority of delegates, votes cast, and superdelegates don’t matter…….because. Moreover, in their reality those 547 superdelegates will somehow magically switch to Bernie just like his magical campaign of unicorn farts and pixie dust.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:10:50am

re: #528 Dr. Matt

Hillary Clinton: 2,316 (includes 547 superdelegates)
Bernie Sanders: 1,547 (includes 46 superdelegates)

In Bernie Bro reality, Hillary’s majority of delegates, votes cast, and superdelegates don’t matter…….because. Moreover, in their reality those 547 superdelegates will somehow magically switch to Bernie just like his magical campaign of unicorn farts and pixie dust.

The irony is their hatred of Superdelegates aren’t determined by the voters but at the same time they want the SDs to ignore what the voters have in fact voted for and give the nomination to Bernie based on polls. Bernie hasn’t been attacked by the Republicans yet.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:13:27am

The good news, my good friend hates Trump, the bad news he likes David French. You take what you get I guess. I won’t stop being friends with the guy but it amazes me that he can tell me he wants a limited government when he supports a guy who wouldn’t even let his wife talk on the phone with other men while he was deployed.

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Jay C Jun 5, 2016 • 11:14:23am

re: #528 Dr. Matt

Hillary Clinton: 2,316 (includes 547 superdelegates)
Bernie Sanders: 1,547 (includes 46 superdelegates)

In Bernie Bro reality, Hillary’s majority of delegates, votes cast, and superdelegates don’t matter…….because. Moreover, in their reality those 547 superdelegates will somehow magically switch to Bernie just like his magical campaign of unicorn farts and pixie dust.

So even leaving superdelegates aside, the count stands at:

HiIllary Clinton: 1,769
Bernie Sanders: 1,501

which is still a lead…. ETA: a 54-46% lead, to be sure, which is still a decent enough margin to win any election (I’d take those results as a floor for the GE any time)

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 11:15:02am

re: #528 Dr. Matt

Hillary Clinton: 2,316 (includes 547 superdelegates)
Bernie Sanders: 1,547 (includes 46 superdelegates)

In Bernie Bro reality, Hillary’s majority of delegates, votes cast, and superdelegates don’t matter…….because. Moreover, in their reality those 547 superdelegates will somehow magically switch to Bernie just like his magical campaign of unicorn farts and pixie dust.

Though I have been a Sanders supporter, I am also a realist. He is at the point now where he would need nearly every superdelegate to switch their positions (not happening).

I think what Mr. Sanders ought to be doing now (though I have no problem with him continuing his campaign, as Mrs. Clinton also said) is looking for an off-ramp for which he can focus the real good he has done in bringing issues to the national discussion against Mr. Trump.

I suspect the folk who go off and say “well, if Sanders isn’t the choice I’ll go off and vote for Dr. Jill Stein” don’t really understand how the political process works. (That and Stein is a moonbat.)

Folk like Susan Sarandon wouldn’t suffer under a President Trump, because they are rich enough to get away.

Perfect is the enemy of good, and for all those who might think Sanders is perfect, no he ain’t. Mrs. Clinton is not perfect either. No politician is. But Mr. Trump is a credible danger to our democratic republic.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:16:30am

re: #532 Anymouse

Though I have been a Sanders supporter, I am also a realist. He is at the point now where he would need nearly every superdelegate to switch their positions (not happening).

I think what Mr. Sanders ought to be doing now (though I have no problem with him continuing his campaign, as Mrs. Clinton also said) is looking for an off-ramp for which he can focus the real good he has done in bringing issues to the national discussion against Mr. Trump.

I suspect the folk who go off and say “well, if Sanders isn’t the choice I’ll go off and vote for Dr. Jill Stein” don’t really understand how the political process works. (That and Stein is a moonbat.)

Folk like Susan Sarandon wouldn’t suffer under a President Trump, because they are rich enough to get away.

Perfect is the enemy of good, and for all those who might think Sanders is perfect, no he ain’t. Mrs. Clinton is not perfect either. No politician is. But Mr. Trump is a credible danger to our democratic republic.

I’ve been meaning to tell you AM but if Sanders had his campaign more like you, I really think he’d still be well received by a lot of people here including myself. I hate that I’ve come to dislike Bernie, I really do.

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:17:25am

re: #531 Jay C

So even leaving superdelegates aside, the count stands at:

HiIllary Clinton: 1,769
Bernie Sanders: 1,501

which is still a lead….

Yep. And as I said last night if it’s so rigged to favor the establishment, why did Obama beat Clinton? I’ll tell you how Obama beat her, he actually knew what the hell he was doing.

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Pawn of the Oppressor Jun 5, 2016 • 11:19:56am

re: #404 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, brother …

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I picture the Alleged Hot Asian Wife yelling at him to take out the garbage.

“ARE YOU DRUNK ON THE INTERNET AGAIN??”
“SHUT UP, I’M TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM LEFTISTS!!”

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 11:20:18am

re: #533 HappyWarrior

I’ve been meaning to tell you AM but if Sanders had his campaign more like you, I really think he’d still be well received by a lot of people here including myself. I hate that I’ve come to dislike Bernie, I really do.

I wonder how much of Sanders problems are Sanders himself versus his campaign staff.

Sanders is what one might term “an ideas guy.” His staff may or may not be entirely on board with him, or do not understand how to effectively propagate his message.

Nevertheless, if Mr. Sanders cannot see why his campaign is going sideways, then perhaps he might not be the best choice for President. He will still be a liberal voice in the Senate, where we also need liberals.

But that is part of the reason we have primaries, to sort out various candidates to see which ones can hold out their ideas best to the public.

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dangerman Jun 5, 2016 • 11:20:54am

this superdelegate stuff is nonsense.

no sd votes have been cast

an sd can vocalize a preference at any time before the vote - just like any other voter.
else what is a poll (of likely voters)?

an sd can change who they prefer and vocalize it or not

knowing who someone (or a lot of others) supports may or may not have an effect on how others vote

in the current race, the chances of enough sds changing their stated preference to give sanders the lead/nom is possible. and not very probable.

i can hold all these thoughts in my head at the same time. they are all true and non contradictory.

538

HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:21:24am

re: #536 Anymouse

I wonder how much of Sanders problems are Sanders himself versus his campaign staff.

Sanders is what one might term “an ideas guy.” His staff may or may not be entirely on board with him, or do not understand how to effectively propagate his message.

Nevertheless, if Mr. Sanders cannot see why his campaign is going sideways, then perhaps he might not be the best choice for President. He will still be a liberal voice in the Senate, where we also need liberals.

But that is part of the reason we have primaries, to sort out various candidates to see which ones can hold out their ideas best to the public.

I don’t know honestly. I definitely think he needs better advisers though for sure.

539

Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 11:22:52am

re: #538 HappyWarrior

I don’t know honestly. I definitely think he needs better advisers though for sure.

My phone was waiting, but I never got a call. /s

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HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:26:08am

re: #539 Anymouse

My phone was waiting, but I never got a call. /s

Ha! But yeah I don’t know what’s going on there. It’s just unfortunate honestly.

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gwangung Jun 5, 2016 • 11:26:36am

re: #536 Anymouse

I wonder how much of Sanders problems are Sanders himself versus his campaign staff.

A great deal has to come from Sanders, unfortunately.

For one thing, his selection of advisers and management oversight is sorely lacking. It’s not just his close campaign advisers, it’s the extreme sloppiness in followup and training (see his problem with FEC accounting and this tweet:

Someone from the @SenSanders campaign cold texted me. Then belittled me. pic.twitter.com/RPxZxIdO8V

— shannonwoodward (@shannonwoodward) June 5, 2016

)

For another, his entire campaign was centered on white people. He ignored blacks and damn near treated their concerns with contempt. You don’t shit on the POPULAR incumbent in his own community by choosing Cornel West and by saying you’d be a better racial uniter than he would be.

Both of these are his mistakes and his alone.

542

Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 11:28:13am

re: #541 gwangung

I agree, he owns those mistakes. Back to my previous statement that if he can’t figure out why his campaign is going sideways, then perhaps he is not a good choice after all.

543

Timothy Watson Jun 5, 2016 • 11:29:31am

re: #541 gwangung

For one thing, his selection of advisers and management oversight is sorely lacking.

That’s one reason why I would never support Sanders: He is an absolutely terrible manager.

Someone can be a good leader without being a good manager, but a President needs to be both.

544

HappyWarrior Jun 5, 2016 • 11:29:32am

re: #541 gwangung

A great deal has to come from Sanders, unfortunately.

For one thing, his selection of advisers and management oversight is sorely lacking. It’s not just his close campaign advisers, it’s the extreme sloppiness in followup and training (see his problem with FEC accounting and this tweet:

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)

For another, his entire campaign was centered on white people. He ignored blacks and damn near treated their concerns with contempt. You don’t shit on the POPULAR incumbent in his own community by choosing Cornel West and by saying you’d be a better racial uniter than he would be.

Both of these are his mistakes and his alone.

Yeah I heard about that. WTF is going on there?

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gwangung Jun 5, 2016 • 11:31:22am

re: #542 Anymouse

I agree, he owns those mistakes. Back to my previous statement that if he can’t figure out why his campaign is going sideways, then perhaps he is not a good choice after all.

Yup, yup, yup. I really wish he was a better campaigner; his late campaign flailings kinda discredit both him and his stand on issues, which we really can’t afford. He may be right on the issues, but that’s just not enough to be President.

546

Alephnaught Jun 5, 2016 • 11:33:24am

re: #437 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, yeah. 1.44 megabytes each. So, I’d need about 50 for a short YouTube video and 500 for a CD-sized movie. No problemo!

Remember Zip drives? We thought 100 MB on one portable disk was great!

I definitely remember the Iomega Zip drive, and using it to transfer large files between PCs. The best one was when I was on a computer course in 1999. It was quite an easy course, and and I did all the tasks very quickly, leaving me with long periods where I was bored with nothing to do, and largely unsupervised. So, a couple of times i was bored, I improvised a couple of times on a new fangled soundtracker called Jeskola Buzz .

I would just set up a few loops, set the audio recorder on the program to record, and then plug in my in-ear phones, and improvise and manipulate the shit out of the loops until I felt I reached a conclusion, and then cool everything down and work out an ending. The end result was usually 10 minutes of WAV file (approx 10MB per minute), and I’d MP3 it, and upload it to my mp3.com account.

Well, that was fine, but obviously I wanted the the master recordings, which were WAV files just under 100MB in length, which you obviously couldn’t just stick on a floppy, and CD-RW drives were a bit of a luxury at the time. So I used the Iomega Zip drive.

To give you an idea of what this involved: I had to sit at the exact same PC I had sat at the previous time. Then, when no-one was looking, quickly fish out the Zip drive from my bag, plug the power supply in, and plug it into the back of the PC tower below my desk. (In the days before USB became standard, the Zip drive plugged into the printer port, which was far more fiddly- you had to screw the plug in.)

The hardware sorted out, then I had to to install the driver. So that involved surreptitiously inserting a floppy with the driver installer, start up a DOS window, start the installer off, and minimise the window. As soon it was installed, of course I had to restart the computer, so of course I restarted it, and made like I just had a Blue Screen of Death, which of course was common in these Windows 95 days.

So, drivers installed, all I had to do was copy the files. Of course, it only works in DOS, so I have to open up a DOS prompt, navigate to the folder with the file, type the copy command, and then minimise the DOS prompt, and randomly whistle and tap at the keyboard in order to cover up the distinctive tape-scrunching sound from the Zip drive below me.

And it worked! The two tracks were tent poles on my 1999 album on mp3.com Livng In Cyberspace.

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Anymouse Jun 5, 2016 • 11:37:00am

re: #545 gwangung

Yup, yup, yup. I really wish he was a better campaigner; his late campaign flailings kinda discredit both him and his stand on issues, which we really can’t afford. He may be right on the issues, but that’s just not enough to be President.

With the fascist talking yam as the GOP candidate, this should be the election where the Democratic Party skewers them (maybe even flips a few red state legislatures).

Considering the derp Mrs. Clinton has put up with over the years without flinching, I think she is the person to do that.

I do want to see Mr. Sanders support her. He would be a valuable asset. The folk going around saying “well, she has to earn our vote,” I don’t think would vote for her if she were the Virgin Mary. If her record over her life of political activity hasn’t done it for them, and they can be taken in so easily by smear campaigns that all failed to stick, they never will support her.

She needs to attract Sanders supporters who are reasonable (there are some of us, I assure you), and ignore the rest as cranks.

548

makeitstop Jun 5, 2016 • 1:00:14pm

re: #477 Eric The Fruit Bat

Drumpf’s continued attacks on Curizel could wind up getting his attroneys Klayman’ed

In a written response, Chin noted that he hadn’t been aware of Klayman’s other lawsuit. As for the questions about his race, he said, “This sentiment is absurd and demeans me individually and the Court as a whole.”

He then lowered the boom. Klayman and Orfanedes were required to withdraw as counsel from the case and would not be permitted to appear in Chin’s court on any matter ever again. They would be required to show his opinion to any other judge in the district in any future case. The court clerk would also report the sanctions to every court where they held bar membership.

I remarked to a friend last night that Curizel isn’t done with Trump - not by a long shot.

Doesn’t it occur to Trump for even a second that instead of pressuring the judge to recuse, the judge is going to come back and hit Trump even harder down the road?

I swear, someone with an actual brain and the leg up that Trump got wold probably be a trillionaire right now. But Trump is just a dumb motherfucker with money.

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makeitstop Jun 5, 2016 • 1:15:10pm

re: #502 darthstar

Back from the beach. Fuck Brock and his daddy.

Some guy in a king cab pickup thought it’d be easier to get out of the lot later if he parked at an angle.

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Some people (not me for a change) left some kind words on his windshield.

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Thre’s plenty of space to turn around. I have an eight ~~food~~foot bed on my truck and I park straight in.

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I saw a metallic green version of your truck in Brooklyn last night, and almost went looking for a dog in the back

Spy Auto

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