Trump Adviser Roger Stone Tweets Image of Nazi Mascot “Pepe the Frog”

Right in the middle of acting outraged about Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” statement
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A cartoon frog named “Pepe” has become a very well-known, quite ubiquitous symbol used by neo-Nazis and the racist “alt-right.”

So today, as Trump and his surrogates are pitching a huge fit of fake outrage that Hillary Clinton (correctly) called out many of his supporters as racists and bigots, close Trump adviser Roger Stone tweets the following photoshopped image — featuring the Nazi mascot Pepe the frog. They’re excellent at the art of self-beclownment.

Roger Stone is no Photoshop expert, and I’ll bet this image originated at one of the websites frequented by “alt-right” racists. Here’s a similar image posted in Reddit’s “The_Donald” section yesterday.

And by the way, Trump himself has also retweeted the Nazi mascot image you see above:

(h/t: The Daily Beast.)

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280 comments

1
William Lewis  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:27:35pm

Reddit. I’m not surprised. Lots of slime hiding there under it’s pretense of free speech. It’s as disgusting a web site as Stormfront or Breitbart.

2
Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:29:56pm

The image they used for Ben Carson is priceless. Too bad they didn’t include Ann Coulter.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:30:24pm

re: #1 William Lewis

Reddit. I’m not surprised. Lots of slime hiding there under it’s pretense of free speech. It’s as disgusting a web site as Stormfront or Breitbart.

But unlike those other sites Reddit has not just RWNJs, but RWNJs, moonbats and all manner of other fringe whackos.

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wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:32:03pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:35:20pm

re: #2 Eric The Fruit Bat

The image they used for Ben Carson is priceless. Too bad they didn’t include Ann Coulter.

No women in that stupid thing.
Not even Ivanka.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:37:35pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

No women in that stupid thing.
Not even Ivanka.

Of course not.

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:38:50pm

Clinton was right: Trump HAS lifted up the deplorable

cnn.com

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:39:36pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

No women in that stupid thing.
Not even Ivanka.

Sure she is, just behind Trump on the right.
///

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b.d.  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:43:20pm

Alex & Milo too. Yep, no hate there at all.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:43:43pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

There are a very small handful of clean reddits, but it is a small number.

The r/islam should probably have the FBI sitting on it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:43:46pm

I don’t think “The Deplorables” will be quite such a badge of honor as “The Old Contemptibles”.

Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany, who was famously dismissive of the BEF, allegedly issued an order on 19 August 1914 to “exterminate … the treacherous English and walk over General French’s contemptible little army”. Hence, in later years, the survivors of the regular army dubbed themselves “The Old Contemptibles”. No evidence of any such order being issued by the Kaiser has ever been found.

Nice try, though.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:47:49pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:50:06pm

re: #2 Eric The Fruit Bat

The image they used for Ben Carson is priceless. Too bad they didn’t include Ann Coulter.

No women. No Ivanka. No Kellyann. No Katrina. No Coulter.

It’s Roger Stone. He’s a caveman.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:53:20pm
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Maxwell Not So Smart  Sep 10, 2016 • 3:55:26pm

re: #2 Eric The Fruit Bat

The image they used for Ben Carson is priceless. Too bad they didn’t include Ann Coulter.

It’s the one time he had his eyes almost fully open. I saw him do it when he ran away from a live interview when he was told they found his lost luggage. The only time I’ve seen him appear to be actually conscious.

I dread to think what sort of embarrassing and treasured items he travels with that had him so excited to know they were being returned.

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A Cranky One  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:00:02pm

Reached my Trump saturation point earlier today.

So Mrs Cranky and I decided to engage in a little anti-Trump activity. Went to an authentic Mexican restaurant (TV tuned to Univision, we were the only English speakers in the place, which was crowded) as an escape.

Decided on…TACOS! Wide choice of meat fillings, including tongue, head and goat. Very fresh salsa and hot sauces. Food was excellent, explaining the crowd.

Trumps a fool and Tacos rule!

/pats tummy happily

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:01:22pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:01:40pm

It still absolutely amazes me how the wingnuts I know think that Hillary’s remark is absolutely over the line, when they’re carrying water for a guy who basically declared the same thing (“Most Mexicans are bad, but there’s some good ones”) a year ago and has never apologized for it.

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:03:13pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

Clinton was right: Trump HAS lifted up the deplorable

cnn.com

Go Isaac Bailey (he’s a local guy—and a really good writer)

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:03:49pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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If that was a new tweet by Rage Furby, it appears he got shut down again pretty fast.

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(((The Engineer Lobuno)))  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:04:09pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Maybe Univision will.

With Monopoly money.

In Spanish.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:04:39pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Does he mean for the CA lawsuit in which he never served papers to the defendants? The same lawsuit he got an extension to explain to the court why he skipped the case management hearing?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:07:19pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:09:45pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

Long boring stupid post on previous thread. It’s becoming a habit.

A friend wants to move to Panama to get away from Trump and the rest of US politics. He just sold his house for $12,000.

There was a house for sale in this county for $10,000. No electricity.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:10:56pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

Long boring stupid post on previous thread. It’s becoming a habit.

Maybe someone will figure out that there’s a problem when only millionaires can afford to live in the Bay Area and find a way to start building affordable housing.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:11:22pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

There really needs to be some squashing of land & housing speculation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:12:37pm

re: #26 Ziggy_TARDIS

There really needs to be some squashing of land & housing speculation.

The real problem is zoning laws which make it nigh on impossible to keep up with the housing demand.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:13:28pm

re: #25 Big Beautiful Door

Some of it could be foreigners buying up real estate as investment, that has been happening in Vancouver.

They passed some massive excise tax on purchases of homes by foreign buyers (People who are not Canadian citizens, and live outside the country predominately). I heard housing prices are trending back towards rational.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:15:32pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:18:10pm

re: #20 Big Beautiful Door

Facebook.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:18:32pm

re: #27 Big Beautiful Door

The real problem is zoning laws which make it nigh on impossible to keep up with the housing demand.

That and the fact that pretty much all the usable space has already got something on it. As the saying goes about land, “They’re not making any more of it.”

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compound_Idaho  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:19:46pm

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:19:54pm

Evening Lizards. Scoots back under the rock.

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TedStriker  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:21:10pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

That and the fact that pretty much all the usable space has already got something on it. As the saying goes about land, “They’re not making any more of it.”

Well, unless you live near an active volcano…

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:21:29pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

I don’t know. What category are you?

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:21:37pm

re: #25 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe someone will figure out that there’s a problem when only millionaires can afford to live in the Bay Area and find a way to start building affordable housing.

I think what you mean is that only people making over a half million a year can afford to live there. That’s just to qualify for a mortgage large enough to let you buy there.

People paying cash will need to be multimillionaires, starting at at least $5 million.

Ask me how I know.

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b.d.  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:22:55pm

heh:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:23:33pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

I sense much butthurt in this one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:26:04pm

re: #34 TedStriker

Well, unless you live near an active volcano…

Which, oddly enough, my brother (No, not that one. The other one) does - live near an active volcano, where there is, in fact, new land being made.

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wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:26:14pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

I sense much butthurt in this one.

Probably also enjoyed the ‘bitter clingers’ stuff eight years ago.

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:26:20pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

I believe that the majority of people voting for Trump meet at least one of your observations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:26:33pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

Because Trump NEVER calls anyone a loser…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:27:26pm
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Jay C  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:28:10pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

Well, leaving aside, for the moment, that Mrs. Clinton wasn’t, AFAICT, actually referring to “independents”, what would you feel would be a better approach to point out the fundamentally racist, hate-based appeal of Donald Trump’s campaign? Ignoring it?

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:29:10pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I keep waiting for the check to arrive from that Nigerian gentleman I loaned money to. Don’t know what could be holding it up.

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William Lewis  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:30:37pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

Truth hurts?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:32:06pm

Funny thing about neighbors is everyone has different ones.

And what might be true for your neighbors isn’t necessarily true for mine.

Leaving aside the whole “herp derp if you losers just went outside” tone that it adds to the comment.

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wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:34:39pm

I bought a framed copy of this today for $5. Reminds me of a ‘mercado’ photo I took in Guanajuato, MX, plus it has a bicycle and a kitty! I love it. Framed behind glass!

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:35:02pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

Trump has spent weeks now telling majority white audiences that the majority of black folks in America live in crime-ridden hellholes called the “inner city” where they’re afraid to walk the street for fear of getting shot and unable to make a living because Democrats are keeping them down. Then gone on to declare that those folks have “nothing to lose” by voting for him because he’s gonna make it all better for them.

He kicked off his campaign last year by declaring that the majority of those who come from Mexico, from South America, and from the Middle East are not good people, they’re the problem children that those countries didn’t want. They’re rapists, they’re drug peddlers, they’re terrorists, and so forth. But made sure to throw in a line about how there are “some” good people among them.

Tell us, how are her remarks from last night worse than any of what Trump has said and his supporters have stood behind for A FUCKING YEAR?!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:35:40pm

Hypothetical independent: “Well, I’m so mad about being called racist that I’m going to vote for this person who says demonstrably racist things and advocates for racist policies just to show them!”

Yes, very reasonable.

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:35:47pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:36:31pm

re: #50 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Hypothetical independent: “Well, I’m so mad about being called racist that I’m going to vote for this person who says demonstrably racist things and advocates for racist policies just to show them!”

Yes, very reasonable.

I think you pretty much have to BE a racist in order to think Trump ISN’T.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:37:12pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

I think you pretty much have to BE a racist in order to think Trump ISN’T.

But don’t you dare point that out to them, they’ll be mad!

///

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:37:15pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

I think you pretty much have to BE a racist in order to think Trump ISN’T.

Or that there’s nothing wrong with what Trump’s saying, and that you’re a racist for making the assertion that Trump is racist.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:37:52pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:38:06pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Or that there’s nothing wrong with what Trump’s saying, and that you’re a racist for making the assertion that Trump is racist.

“He’s not racist because Mexican isn’t a race!”

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:41:33pm

re: #16 A Cranky One

Reached my Trump saturation point earlier today.

So Mrs Cranky and I decided to engage in a little anti-Trump activity. Went to an authentic Mexican restaurant (TV tuned to Univision, we were the only English speakers in the place, which was crowded) as an escape.

Decided on…TACOS! Wide choice of meat fillings, including tongue, head and goat. Very fresh salsa and hot sauces. Food was excellent, explaining the crowd.

Trumps a fool and Tacos rule!

/pats tummy happily

The other day when we took our cat into town for his examination, while the vet was doing that we went to the Mexican restaurant next door. Place was packed (we’d never been to that restaurant). My wife and I each ordered different taco plates.

I asked the waitress if tacos and their restaurant had become more popular recently and she said the management was considering putting a taco truck on the streets of Scottsbluff. (That would be in Nate Silver’s most-likely district to go for Mr. Trump.)

en.wikipedia.org

The history of the character, which originally had nothing to do with the alt-right. I presume if the creator knows about it now, he’s gotta be pulling his hair out.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:41:54pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:43:11pm

Weird indeed. Trump’s activated the racist base of the GOP. The white supremacists and bigot brigade are more assertive now with Trump than they have been in decades. That’s no surprise, nor is it shocking. It’s a culmination of right wing pandering to these bigots. The rest of the GOP, however, was more circumspect in overt racism. They went with the dog whistles and occasionally racist volley.

Trump’s a 88-gun salute to hate. And the white supremacists are fully aware of all this, and gloat over their new found effort at mainstreaming working beyond their dreams.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:44:29pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

For some reason that reminded me of The Giving Tree. Now, I’m nostalgic and a little sad.

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:44:50pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:45:03pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

So people who don’t yet support Trump will vote Trump because she insulted them for supporting Trump? I think you lost control of your train of thought.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:45:25pm

In my ongoing battle with the kitchen, there are 8 bags of stuff to be donated in my car. All cabinets have been gone through with the exception of the ones above the fridge and the liquor cabinet. I almost have the counter spaces reclaimed except for the pile of papers that got pulled out of the junk drawer and need to be gone through. I’ll haul out the trash soon and then consider getting cleaned up and taking a walk into town to break in the new hiking boots and find a margarita.

Progress may be slow but it does happen if you work for it.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:46:56pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m having a lovely weekend with fishfolk; they came up for a visit, their first time here in a long time. I pulled open the engine in Mrs. Fish’s big old brown car and discovered one of the push rods laying in two pieces in the bottom of the cylinder head. Woopsy. Luckily it doesn’t seem to have done any other damage besides that.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:47:11pm

re: #61 lawhawk

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:47:12pm

re: #60 baski deploribus derpum

For some reason that reminded me of The Giving Tree. Now, I’m nostalgic and a little sad.

Hey, I shouldn’t be the only one!
//

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:47:13pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

Aw, come on man! Trump supporters need a safe space from direct observation?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:47:54pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

I’m having a lovely weekend with fishfolk; they came up for a visit, their first time here in a long time. I pulled open the engine in Mrs. Fish’s big old brown car and discovered one of the push rods laying in two pieces in the bottom of the cylinder head. Woopsy. Luckily it doesn’t seem to have done any other damage besides that.

I hate when that happens.

No joke.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:48:06pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Whoa, whoa. Slow down. I’ll help with the liquor cabinet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:48:21pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

I’m having a lovely weekend with fishfolk; they came up for a visit, their first time here in a long time. I pulled open the engine in Mrs. Fish’s big old brown car and discovered one of the push rods laying in two pieces in the bottom of the cylinder head. Woopsy. Luckily it doesn’t seem to have done any other damage besides that.

Good thing it had 7 other cylinders!

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:48:27pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Many thanks!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:49:43pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

That’s why Arendt called it “the banality of evil.”

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:51:00pm

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:51:46pm

re: #16 A Cranky One

Reached my Trump saturation point earlier today.

So Mrs Cranky and I decided to engage in a little anti-Trump activity. Went to an authentic Mexican restaurant (TV tuned to Univision, we were the only English speakers in the place, which was crowded) as an escape.

Decided on…TACOS! Wide choice of meat fillings, including tongue, head and goat. Very fresh salsa and hot sauces. Food was excellent, explaining the crowd.

Trumps a fool and Tacos rule!

/pats tummy happily

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:52:06pm

re: #69 baski deploribus derpum

Whoa, whoa. Slow down. I’ll help with the liquor cabinet.

Well. It’s the above-pantry one, which is not the real one. It’s not getting done today.

The real one gets reviewed on a regular basis.

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:52:13pm

Trump’s remarks about how Mexico sends “rapists, murderers, drug dealers, etc” to America was excused by his supporters with “Mexican is not a race!”

When he declared (and his lawyers argued) that the judge assigned to the Trump U. case should recuse himself because of his race/heritage, his supporters argued that being Latino could bias a judge against a white defendant.

When he went after the Khans for criticizing his remarks about Muslims, they engaged in the most sickening displays of racism, from perpetuating rumors that the Khans were supporters of foreign terrorists, to nodding along as Trump surrogates argued that Mr. Khan was a vehement supporter of “SHARIA!!111”

And now, over the last few weeks, Trump’s attempts to “reach out” to black voters by portraying them as victims of the DNC living in “inner city” hellholes has been followed by his supporters going “CHICAGO!!1111” and resurrecting Civil Rights-era pro-segregation BS to argue that black folks had it better when they kept quiet and went along with the white majority.

And that’s not counting the various groups, from the KKK to various “alt-right” organizations, who have declared either open support for him or argued that his candidacy is helping their various “causes.”

If I have a problem with Hillary’s remarks, it’s that she was being generous when she said such people only constitute “half” of his supporters.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:52:56pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well. It’s the above-pantry one, which is not the real one. It’s not getting done today.

The real one gets reviewed on a regular basis.

Mine’s currently locked, as fishfolk are in the house and we don’t want them nosing around and finding just how, erm, extensively stocked it is.

[Cough.]

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:54:38pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

There’s also the shrinkage problem.

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wrenchwench  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:54:44pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

When he declared (and his lawyers argued) that the judge assigned to the Trump U. case should recuse himself because of his race/heritage, his supporters argued that being Latino could bias a judge against a white defendant.

What if anyone could get a new judge by insulting the assigned one enough to cause bias?

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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:55:27pm

re: #32 compound_Idaho

The second half of her comments are at least as insulting than the first half. If you support Trump, you are either a racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe …….. or (second half) you are a pathetic loser left behind by the modern economy. If she loses, it will be because independents have grown weary of being call racists, idiot losers.

If you live on the internet, she may have a point. In the real world with your neighbor down the street, not so much.

As an Idaho resident (Twin Falls) I only have two words for this post. FUCK YOU!

Hillary’s statement were dead on. tRumps supporters are racist, bigoted and misogynistic pieces of shit. They are in fact deplorable.

tRump has called Hispanics murderers and rapists as well as calling for a ban on Muslims coming into our country for pretty much the same reason and you have a problem with Hillary calling his supporters for what they are? Again. as a Idahoan, FUCK YOU!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:55:49pm

So, I am listening through a Best of Bowie Album, which will be a stop gap as I start accruing his albums overtime.

I swear, a fair amount of what I heard had a lot in common with Final Fantasy VII’s music.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:56:23pm

re: #78 Sherlock Hound

There’s also the shrinkage problem.

Not with fishfolk - they’d be scandalized. You may not know, although most others do, but I grew up in a right-wing nutjob household, and although my folks are good-hearted people, they are very, very, VERY politically misguided.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:57:48pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

When my wife and I were on vacation and in Chicago, when we were leaving town she wanted to go to a restaurant on the far end of S. Harlem Avenue she’d remembered when she lived there many years ago.

Middle-aged white couple (wife on two canes) walking around the South Side of Chicago asking people for directions to the restaurant, driving around in a Smart car with Nebraska plates.

You know what we didn’t feel? Afraid of anyone. Found the restaurant. Had a fantastic meal at a good price. Left a tip equal to the amount of the meal. Continued on our way out of town.

It’s almost as if the South Side is like any other place, where if you treat people decently and respectfully they treat you the same way.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:58:12pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

Mine’s currently locked, as fishfolk are in the house and we don’t want them nosing around and finding just how, erm, extensively stocked it is.

[Cough.]

mr klys is actually off at a big beer festival thing today, which is why I’ve had the house to myself to make a giant mess in the kitchen.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:58:39pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

Don’t forget Trump mulling paying the bail for the White man who punched a Black protester so hard that he knocked him down. The fact that Trump is racists is beyond argument. I assume some of his supporters aren’t but they must take responsibility for his bigoted comments.

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 4:58:41pm

re: #59 lawhawk

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Also from Lindsey:

I want to talk to the Trump supporters for a minute,” Graham began. “I don’t know who you are, and I don’t know why you like this guy. I think what you like about him: He appears to be strong, and the rest of us are weak. He’s a very successful businessman and he’s going to make everything great. He’s going to take all of the problems of the world and put them in a box and make your life better. That’s what he’s selling.”He continued: “Here’s what you’re buying. He’s a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.

businessinsider.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:00:05pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

Don’t forget Trump mulling paying the bail for the White man who punched a Black protester so hard that he knocked him down. The fact that Trump is racists is beyond argument. I assume some of his supporters aren’t but they must take responsibility for his bigoted comments.

Oh yeah, how could I forget the various efforts to spin the minority protestors at Trump rallies as the instigators of the violence towards them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:00:34pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

Not with fishfolk - they’d be scandalized. You may not know, although most others do, but I grew up in a right-wing nutjob household, and although my folks are good-hearted people, they are very, very, VERY politically misguided.

That’s my cousin. He’s a sweet guy, and we had lots of fun at the Reunion, talking about his Dad (who played with Glenn Miller! But fortunately didn’t FLY with Glenn Miller), and his uncle (my Great Uncle) Earle and his racy life. But he’s wingnut to the ears.

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:02:16pm

re: #80 Bubblehead II

As an Idaho resident (Twin Falls) I only have two words for this post. FUCK YOU!

Hillary’s statement were dead on. tRumps supporters are racist, bigoted and misogynistic pieces of shit. They are in fact deplorable.

tRump has called Hispanics murderers and rapists as well as calling for a ban on Muslims coming into our country for pretty much the same reason and you have a problem with Hillary calling his supporters for what they are? Again. as a Idahoan, FUCK YOU!

Trump’s new to this.

Excuse.

Hillary is a veteran of the political wars. She should know better and rise to a higher level.

Excuse.

Funny how this can cover people of ALL kinds…Hillary’s begrudging backers…and Trump’s looking-past-reality backers.

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:03:07pm

re: #86 BeachDem

Also from Lindsey:

businessinsider.com

Poor Lindsey, he didn’t realize that what he was criticizing was what makes Trumpers worship him.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:03:45pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ahh. The port wine, Goldschlager, and triple sec cabinet. Carry on then.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:05:05pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:05:29pm

re: #91 baski deploribus derpum

Ahh. The port wine, Goldschlager, and triple sec cabinet. Carry on then.

More the tequila and Scotch/whiskey cabinet.

And then the other one is mine, which means a teeny bit of vodka and then ALL THE GIN with some overflow onto the buffet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:06:41pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

Trump’s new to this.

Excuse.

Hillary is a veteran of the political wars. She should know better and rise to a higher level.

Excuse.

Funny how this can cover people of ALL kinds…Hillary’s begrudging backers…and Trump’s looking-past-reality backers.

I love the “Trump’s new to this” excuse. They’ll use that in the debates, too. But here’s the thing - the debates are like a job interview, for the most important position in Government. Sure, when you’re hiring, you might be willing to cut the less experienced person SOME slack for lack of experience, if you at least got the impression they had worked and studied about the job and what it entailed. But if you have to choose between one person who’s worked all her career to do as good a job as possible, and a guy who can’t be bothered to even read the job description, you don’t go with the latter.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:06:59pm

Compound Idaho is an old time crank. Back in the day he was upset with the Obamacare contraceptive mandate because he wanted to be the one in control over his adult daughter’s fertility.

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compound_Idaho  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:07:58pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

Trump’s new to this.

Excuse.

Hillary is a veteran of the political wars. She should know better and rise to a higher level.

Excuse.

Funny how this can cover people of ALL kinds…Hillary’s begrudging backers…and Trump’s looking-past-reality backers.

Hasn’t Twin been in the new lately?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:08:55pm

re: #96 compound_Idaho

Almost as coherent as a Trump speech.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:09:18pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

Trump’s new to this.

Excuse.

Hillary is a veteran of the political wars. She should know better and rise to a higher level.

Excuse.

Funny how this can cover people of ALL kinds…Hillary’s begrudging backers…and Trump’s looking-past-reality backers.

She should have never apologized. Instead she should have struck even harder. Making it clear that racism/misogyny/bigotry would not be tolerated under her administration.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:09:40pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Compound Idaho is an old time crank. Back in the day he was upset with the Obamacare contraceptive mandate because he wanted to be the one in control over his adult daughter’s fertility.

Indeed.
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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:10:00pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

Poor Lindsey, he didn’t realize that what he was criticizing was what makes Trumpers worship him.

I think he kinda did. I kinda heard the unspoken “Bless your hearts” in his here’s what you’re buying line.

I’m not a huge Lindsey fan, but he’s by far the better of my two Senators (Tim Scott being the other.)

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William Lewis  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:10:04pm

re: #81 Ziggy_TARDIS

So, I am listening through a Best of Bowie Album, which will be a stop gap as I start accruing his albums overtime.

I swear, a fair amount of what I heard had a lot in common with Final Fantasy VII’s music.

If you’re just really learning Bowie, may I take this moment to suggest his finest three albums - the Berlin period - Low, Heroes, Lodger. His finest moments as far as I am concerned. This is not saying that things before or after were bad - just that those three albums from 77 & 79 were his creative high point that only Blackstar equaled.

Edit to add - link to Berlin Trilogy en.wikipedia.org

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compound_Idaho  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:10:12pm

re: #97 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Bubble head knows.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:10:12pm

So there’s this movie on TV…Shia LaBeouf is a man? Wasn’t she one of the daughters on The Cosby Show?

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:10:49pm

Ahhh. The Big Game at the Race Track in Bristol is All Kinds of Red White ‘n’ Blue.

They passed out cards to have both sides of the grandstands white and red waves and stars and USA in the ends with the typical field large flag for the National Anthem.

No room for Kaepernicking in Tennessee.

Almost like they are sending a message.

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TedStriker  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:11:35pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Compound Idaho is an old time crank. Back in the day he was upset with the Obamacare contraceptive mandate because he wanted to be the one in control over his adult daughter’s fertility.

Seriously?

Goddamn, that’s fucking creepy as fuck.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:11:52pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

Ahhh. The Big Game at the Race Track in Bristol is All Kinds of Red White ‘n’ Blue.

They passed out cards to have both sides of the grandstands white and red waves and stars and USA in the ends with the typical field large flag for the National Anthem.

No room for Kaepernicking in Tennessee.

Almost like they are sending a message.

Yeah, fishfolk are watching this game right now. Holy patriotism, Batman.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:12:39pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:12:48pm

re: #102 compound_Idaho

If it’s a private message for him, then you can take advantage of this fantastic feature that Charles has implemented that allows you to make the message visible to only him. Otherwise, cryptic shit is going to get mocked.

I mean, that’s all you’re willing to offer us as discussion anyway, so suck it up and put on your big boy pants.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:13:14pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

Yeah, fishfolk are watching this game right now. Holy patriotism, Batman.

It’s not patriotism. It’s pandering.

(What would I know about patriotism, I’m just one of those Gold Star Family members that support terrorists.)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:13:32pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

Ahhh. The Big Game at the Race Track in Bristol is All Kinds of Red White ‘n’ Blue.

They passed out cards to have both sides of the grandstands white and red waves and stars and USA in the ends with the typical field large flag for the National Anthem.

No room for Kaepernicking in Tennessee.

Almost like they are sending a message.

I’m sure the Bald Eagle Bro’s watching the game with a Beer at the Bar are going to stand for the anthem…yeah right. I hate contrived patriotism.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:13:52pm

re: #109 Anymouse

It’s not patriotism. It’s pandering.

(What would I know about patriotism, I’m just one of those Gold Star Family members that support terrorists.)

You say potato, I say grapefruit.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:13:59pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

I wonder if they kept people in their seats during the Anthem? Yankee Stadium used to do that for “God Bless America”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:14:18pm

re: #102 compound_Idaho

Bubble head knows.

But can he diagram that sentence? Because I sure as hell can’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:14:35pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

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This one’s better…

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:15:11pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

Yeah, fishfolk are watching this game right now. Holy patriotism, Batman.

Yeah, it came on right after the Ohio State game I had on, and I hadn’t changed the channel since I am working on a book document going over typos, widow lines, tabs, etc. I looked up as they introduced the singer and saw all the fanfare.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:15:55pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:16:34pm

re: #115 ObserverArt

Yeah, it came on right after the Ohio State game I had on, and I hadn’t changed the channel since I am working on a book document going over typos, widow lines, tabs, etc. I looked up as they introduced the singer and saw all the fanfare.

We cut the cable last year, so we’re streaming it off of ESPN. I just happened to look up at the screen and see the giant red/white/blue “USA” spelled out in the stands. A few minutes later, my dad commented, “Typical drunk Bristol fans,” as the camera caught a handful of drunk college girls in the background of a shot.

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:16:55pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

And BBC America is running a Star Trek TOS marathon (albeit with the updated visuals so this is equivalent to the reissued SW original trilogy with the added SFX).

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majii  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:17:12pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

“Trump’s new to this.”

This is a lie. Trump’s past history, which has been written about in the MSM, would let any open-minded and sane individual know that he has a history of racism, bigotry, cheating, telling yuuuge lies, aligning himself with deplorable and despicable persons if he thinks they can help him achieve a goal [mobsters], and scamming others out of money he owes them. Just because this is his first time in the political arena has nothing to do with him attracting white supremacists and their ideas into his campaign. Even some White suburban women in Philadelphia are calling Trump a racist and a bigot. I guess this would be something his supporters would strenuously deny right along with Lindsey Graham describing him using the same words.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:18:04pm

re: #119 majii

He’s not new to politics either: He ran for president once before.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:18:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:20:51pm

re: #121 jaunte

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This man is demanding an apology from HRC, for making a sweeping generalization about a group.

Yeah, but it was a WHITE group, so that’s different.
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:21:04pm

re: #119 majii

As I said months ago, he is a snake oil salesman.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:21:15pm

Remember that mattress seller in Austin that came out with the cringe-worth advert for 9/11?

It would appear a Wal*Mart in Florida has done something equally cringeworthy with a display of Coca-Cola on sale (with photos of the display):

wonkette.com

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:21:36pm

re: #121 jaunte

Hey, he was just talking about blacks and hispanics. Nobody in the media gives a shit about them.

Insult a group of white people, though and they’re all over you like the Trump family cleaning out a sucker.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:22:32pm

re: #121 jaunte

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The violent crime that went down 1% a year from 1960 to the late 90s and 2% a year since? That violent crime?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:22:40pm

re: #118 lawhawk

The BBC is throwing a better 50th for Star Trek than Paramount and CBS.

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lawhawk  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:23:11pm

re: #124 Anymouse

The further we get from the day, the more these kinds of crass commercial advertisements/displays will appear. It’s natural.

Doesn’t make it right, and the mattress business appears to have suffered the consequences of their ad, and the Walmart display was taken down.

Common sense just doesn’t matter to some folks.

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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:23:14pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At post 108. Nothing. Private or public. Been very open with you Lizards both here and on Twitter. Shrugs.

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:23:14pm

re: #124 Anymouse

If it wasn’t in Florida it would have to be in Texas, the two states that should be declared legally insane.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:24:04pm

re: #127 Ziggy_TARDIS

The BBC is throwing a better 50th for Star Trek than Paramount and CBS.

The “Norman…coordinate….” episode is up next.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:24:32pm

Looks as if the Bush matriarch has had enough….. Sic em Barb….

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:24:43pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

Hey, he was just talking about blacks and hispanics. Nobody in the media gives a shit about them.

Insult a group of white people, though and they’re all over you like the Trump family cleaning out a sucker.

The bigoted whites don’t like getting picked on for being bigoted whites.

That never used to be a problem for them.

Thanks Obama.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:24:48pm

re: #129 Bubblehead II

At post 108. Nothing. Private or public. Been very open with you Lizards both here and on Twitter. Shrugs.

I’m not mad at you. :) You also actually contribute to the discussion and don’t just drop a turd and run.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:25:03pm

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In Trump’s world, the only crime is street crime, not the crime of cheating people that work for you or buy your products.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:25:10pm

re: #96 compound_Idaho

“Compound Idaho”? Is that like a regular Idaho, but so badly broken the Nazis are visibly protruding?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:25:11pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:28:17pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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There’s even a TX flag in the picture.

Wingnuts are not good with state flags. Remember the Ohio flag they insisted was an Obama flag he was going to impose on the nation? Good times….

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:28:32pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔ @Green_Footballs
Good grief. The whole family is a bunch of idiots. That’s Texas, not Florida. There’s even a TX flag in the picture.
8:24 PM - 10 Sep 2016
8 8 Retweets 13 13 likes

Deplorable!

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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:28:57pm

re: #134 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m not mad at you. :) You also actually contribute to the discussion and don’t just drop a turd and run.

Wasn’t suggesting you were. Just wondering wtf compound was alluding to. I know lots of things. Bwtf is he alluding to?

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:30:14pm

re: #128 lawhawk

The further we get from the day, the more these kinds of crass commercial advertisements/displays will appear. It’s natural.

Doesn’t make it right, and the mattress business appears to have suffered the consequences of their ad, and the Walmart display was taken down.

Common sense just doesn’t matter to some folks.

Yeah, I don’t see anyone making displays of the USS Arizona with Zeros, Kates, and Vals flying around it sinking the ship and killing hundreds.

Haven’t seen too many displays of the White House being burned in the 1812 War, or sinkings of the Lusitania in WW1. No displays anywhere celebrating Vicksburg or the burning of Savannah.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:30:32pm

re: #136 Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)

“Compound Idaho”? Is that like a regular Idaho, but so badly broken the Nazis are visibly protruding?

I think “Idaho” and “Compound” in the same sentence, I think “Aryan Nations”, but maybe that’s just me.

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A Cranky One  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:31:43pm

re: #123 PhillyPretzel

As I said months ago, he is a snake oil salesman.

Please don’t insult snake oil salesmen. I mean, do you know how annoying squeaky snakes are?

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:32:05pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, Mark Cuban pointed it out to sonny boy a while ago

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:33:06pm

re: #143 A Cranky One

Okay. No more snake oil salesman. How about BS artist?

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:33:22pm

I’m making some strides towards unity. Currently, Neil Young and Lynrd Skynyrd are sharing my music stand. Side by side.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:34:13pm

Just got a fundraising request from the Trump Make America Great Again Committee. The “survey” is again soliciting our advice. The firm micro-targeting their support base must be…deplorable.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:35:19pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Just got a fundraising request from the Trump Make America Great Again Committee. The “survey” is again soliciting our advice. The firm micro-targeting their support base must be…deplorable.

Here’s some advice: Quit now. Your candidate is a raging dumbass.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:35:27pm

re: #146 baski deploribus derpum

I’m making some strides towards unity. Currently, Neil Young and Lynrd Skynyrd are sharing my music stand. Side by side.

Our own CD cabinet is a fantastic display of unity: My wife loves Neil Young (I despise his singing voice). Her CDs are making love to my Abba and Yes CDs (she despises Abba and barely tolerates Yes)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:35:42pm

We-e-e-ell, you got trouble my friends,
Right here in every city!
That’s trouble with a capital T,
And that rhymes with P,
And they stand for Those People!

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majii  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:35:56pm

re: #138 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Wingnuts are not good with state flags.”

The NC GOP tried to get some sh*t started by saying Democratic VP Candidate Tim Kaine was wearing a pin showing the flag of Honduras. He was actually wearing a Blue Star Families pin. SMDH at some wingnuts’ ignorance and sloppy attention to detail and at their vigorous denial of facts and truth.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:36:06pm

Was about to get up to walk to town for the margarita and a cat jumps into my lap.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:36:13pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

How about when they call you answer the phone with something like Lovers of Italian Opera? That might throw them off.

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A Cranky One  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:36:15pm

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

Okay. No more snake oil salesman. How about BS artist?

Works for me. ;-)

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ObserverArt  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:36:49pm

re: #146 baski deploribus derpum

I’m making some strides towards unity. Currently, Neil Young and Lynrd Skynyrd are sharing my music stand. Side by side.

Sweet Home Southern Man.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:36:55pm

re: #152 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Was about to get up to walk to town for the margarita and a cat jumps into my lap.

Looks like that margarita’s gonna have to wait until tomorrow.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:37:24pm

re: #156 thedopefishlives

Looks like that margarita’s gonna have to wait until tomorrow.

Nah, William’s attention span is normally about five minutes.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:37:27pm

re: #151 majii

“Wingnuts are not good with state flags.”

The NC GOP tried to get some sh*t started by saying Democratic VP Candidate Tim Kaine was wearing a pin showing the flag of Honduras. He was actually wearing a Blue Star Families pin. SMDH at some wingnuts’ ignorance and sloppy attention to detail and at their vigorous denial of facts and truth.

It wasn’t that the GOP didn’t know. They counted on their supporters not knowing (or being fact-checked).

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:38:15pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Just got a fundraising request from the Trump Make America Great Again Committee. The “survey” is again soliciting our advice. The firm micro-targeting their support base must be…deplorable.

I’ve sent three of those back empty. I wish I could figure out a way to fit a brick in the envelope.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:38:20pm

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

How about when they call you answer the phone with something like Lovers of Italian Opera? That might throw them off.

We’re getting expensive Ryan and Trump mailings, with prepaid return envelopes. We answer, but they seem not to be taking our advice.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:38:26pm

So sick of Trump that I went to El Cholo here in Los Angeles and enjoyed their incredible tortilla soup and Carne Asada. I told the waitress that I had to escape from Trump.

Then she showed me where folks had a Trump piñata and they were goofing on it.

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:39:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:39:22pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:39:59pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nah, William’s attention span is normally about five minutes.

See, my cat will only let you put him off your lap for that long before he comes back for more. He’s more reliable than the Snooze button on your alarm clock.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:40:34pm

Here’s another thing I like about Clinton’s statements: Democrats are defending her. The top eight diaries at DK right now can actually be summarized as “Hell yes she’s correct!” I know there are plenty of hand wringers, but it’s about time calling out bigots gets defended.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:40:41pm

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

How about when they call you answer the phone with something like Lovers of Italian Opera? That might throw them off.

A Bells Are Ringing reference? Unbelievable!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:42:08pm
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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:42:22pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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I think Mark Cuban beat you to the punch there by about 8 hours.

Edit: I should always load new messages before posting. I see I someone already pointed this one out.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:42:23pm

re: #166 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A Bells Are Ringing reference? Unbelievable!

Blew by me—It’s been 50 years since I’ve seen the Judy Holliday film. Also, we do like IO.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:42:25pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

The brick is supposed to go through a window. It is the baby’s poo filled diaper that gets mailed. /half

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:44:36pm

re: #166 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Actually I was looking at the local PBS station’s offering for tonight (Bridge on the River Kwai) and wished it was “Some Like it Hot.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:44:48pm

re: #164 thedopefishlives

See, my cat will only let you put him off your lap for that long before he comes back for more. He’s more reliable than the Snooze button on your alarm clock.

Cat has wandered off and so it is my turn to do so too. :) Back later, Lizards.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:45:45pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Blew by me—It’s been 50 years since I’ve seen the Judy Holliday film. Also, we do like IO.

I’m a huge Judy Holliday fan. I even like Phffft! better than The Seven-Year Itch (The next season’s George Axelrod play.) Marilyn Monroe was a fascinating specimen, all right—but I love Judy Holliday.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:47:40pm

re: #171 PhillyPretzel

Actually I was looking at the local PBS station’s offering for tonight (Bridge on the River Kwai) and wished it was “Some Like it Hot.”

Oh, yeah. One was “Friends” and one was “Lovers”, I think…now you’ve confused me.

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William Lewis  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:48:25pm

re: #157 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nah, William’s attention span is normally about five minutes.

Hey, I resemble that remark!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:49:18pm

re: #98 Bubblehead II

I’m sorry to hear that she apologized too. Trump never apologizes for his bigoted comments. She should not apologize for calling him out on his bigotry.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:50:53pm
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Bubblehead II  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:51:52pm

Night Lizards. Actually going to take a bath tonight instead of a shower. The Lady’s will understand. ;-). Sleep well and may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:52:30pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

“If the facts are on your side, pound the facts into the table.
If the law is on your side, pound the law into the table.
If neither the facts nor the law are on your side, pound the table.”

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bratwurst  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:53:02pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Netanyahu has spat in the face of men women and children (including, of course, Jews!) who were truly “ethnically cleansed” from their homes.

Call me crazy, but a halt in new settlement construction is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the same thing.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:53:39pm

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

I’m sorry to hear that she apologized too. Trump never apologizes for his bigoted comments. She should not apologize for calling him out on his bigotry.

Her math works out to about 15 percent racist Americans overlaid with another 5 percent of “other” or mixed bigots. She was being generous.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:53:56pm

re: #121 jaunte

Saw this in her timeline. 1) Fuck you can never be said too often to George Zimmerman, and 2) it’s a great Jennifer Lawrence gif:

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thedopefishlives  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:54:24pm

re: #179 jaunte

“If the facts are on your side, pound the facts into the table.
If the law is on your side, pound the law into the table.
If neither the facts nor the law are on your side, pound the table.”

Every time I hear that quote, I think of Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the desk at the UN.

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:54:49pm

re: #178 Bubblehead II

I only bathe now. I’ve stood up in the shower for too damn long. Now it’s time for bubbles, candles and fancy soaps (sometimes with the soothing styles of Bob and Chez). Dude style.

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TedStriker  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:55:21pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

I’ve sent three of those back empty. I wish I could figure out a way to fit a brick in the envelope.

Fill ‘em with lead shot in a stronger bag/envelope inside their envelope.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:56:09pm

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

I’m sorry to hear that she apologized too. Trump never apologizes for his bigoted comments. She should not apologize for calling him out on his bigotry.

She apologized for “half”. She didn’t apologize for calling out the bigots. In fact, she said:

Clinton says she was in the wrong to say that half of Trump’s supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables” but continued to lash out at the far-right extremists linked to the GOP campaign.

“Last night I was ‘grossly generalistic,’ and that’s never a good idea. I regret saying ‘half’ —that was wrong,” Clinton’s Saturday afternoon mea culpa read.

“But let’s be clear, what’s really ‘deplorable’ is that Donald Trump hired a major advocate for the so-called ‘alt-right’ movement to run his campaign and that David Duke and other white supremacists see him as a champion of their values.”

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baski deploribus derpum  Sep 10, 2016 • 5:56:30pm

Basket sales will skyrocket.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:00:49pm

My FB:

(paraphrasing)

Poster: Hillary finally joined the ranks of Trump and insulted millions of Americans!

Other posters: YEAH SHES A BITCH! FUCK THAT ****! HOPE SHE DIES OF CANCER!!!!!

Me: Oh look. All these people in this very thread proving she’s right! One even wants her to die of cancer!

Some dude: Who said anything about wishing anybody to die of cancer?

Me: *posts screenshot*

***No reply***

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:01:40pm

re: #140 Bubblehead II

Wasn’t suggesting you were. Just wondering wtf compound was alluding to. I know lots of things. Bwtf is he alluding to?

Probably this:

For his humanitarianism and thinking outside the traditional corporate box, Ulukaya now stands at the center of a vicious smear campaign. Earlier this year, in a piece originally headlined “American Yogurt Tycoon Vows to Choke U.S. With Muslims,” a writer for the far-right conspiracy-mongering website World Net Daily falsely claimed that refugees were being sent to Twin Falls specifically for the purpose of working at the Chobani plant and that Ulukaya was “call[ing] on [the] biggest American companies to join [an] Islamic surge.” (That line was later removed from the piece, as was the headline, since changed to the slightly less inflammatory “U.S. Yogurt Billionaire Asks Businesses to Hire More Foreign Refugees.”) The allegations have since migrated to the similarly paranoid precincts of breitbart.com, the “alt-right” repository of white nationalism and xenophobia whose former executive chairman, Steve Bannon, recently merged seamlessly into the Trump campaign as its CEO. At Breitbart, the story of Chobani’s refugee employees has taken on new life as the centerpiece of a broader intrigue. For the past month, Breitbart reporter Lee Stranahan has been filing dispatch after dispatch from the Idaho town alleging a nexus of disease, rape, and jihad—all with Chobani and Ulukaya at its center.

Compound Idaho wants to bitch about Trump supporters being called deplorable while thinly alluding to racist, anti immigrant agitprop.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:03:08pm

re: #187 baski deploribus derpum

Basket sales will skyrocket.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:03:38pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

The most sensational component of Breitbart’s “special report” concerns an inappropriate sexual encounter, misleadingly labeled a “gang rape,” involving three refugee minors and a 5-year-old Twin Falls girl in June. Local anti-Muslim activists seized upon the incident, which is under investigation by authorities, and launched a campaign to discredit the entire refugee resettlement program, which Stranahan ominously labels “Idaho’s Globalist Devil’s Bargain.” Last month, a white nationalist organization called the American Freedom Party issued robocalls across Idaho informing listeners that the “nonwhite invasion of their state and all white areas constitutes white genocide.” (This is the same racist outfit that endorsed Trump, calling him the “Great White Hope,” and paid for robocalls on his behalf in the run-up to the Iowa caucuses.)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:03:57pm

Jim Hoft has been tweeting from Phyllis Schlafly’s funeral all day today. He calls this a “large media presence.” Looks like about 12 people.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:05:10pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

Obviously Jim does not know how to count.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:05:50pm

re: #193 PhillyPretzel

Obviously Jim does not know how to count.

“One, two, many….”

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:06:34pm

“…three… four… large.”

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:08:50pm

re: #193 PhillyPretzel

Obviously Jim does not know how to count.

I’m just waiting for The SGMOTI to allege that hundreds of media reporters are on the same side of the street that he’s on.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:09:02pm

They can’t help but keep proving Clinton’s point.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:09:25pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

Probably this:

Compound Idaho want’s to bitch about Trump supporters being called deplorable while thinly alluding to racist, anti immigrant agitprop.

Dok Zoom at Wonkette debunked that crap months ago:

Wingnuts Having Fine Freakout Over Nonexistent Knife-Wielding Syrian Gang Rapists In Idaho

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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:10:16pm

re: #182 Belafon

George should move in with his good buddy Rage. I’m sure the HAW won’t mind supporting both of them.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:10:29pm

re: #197 jaunte

Trump’s First Member? Hmm. Someone might take that the wrong way.

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scottslemmons  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:11:53pm

re: #197 jaunte

They can’t help but keep proving Clinton’s point.

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Every wingnut in America: “Stop saying we’re deplorable! Or we’ll KILL ALL THE JEWS!”

Media: “Why is Hillary so mean to Donald Trump, Hero of the People?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:12:17pm

re: #190 jaunte

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Where would you like your Internet delivered?

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:12:25pm

re: #200 PhillyPretzel

General Turgidson.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:12:42pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft has been tweeting from Phyllis Schlafly’s funeral all day today. He calls this a “large media presence.” Looks like about 12 people.

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The guy on the left could probably lose a couple of pounds.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:12:46pm
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MsJ  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:14:29pm

re: #142 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “Idaho” and “Compound” in the same sentence, I think “Aryan Nations”, but maybe that’s just me.

I think idiot militias. Bundy type morons.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:15:09pm

re: #182 Belafon

Saw this in her timeline. 1) Fuck you can never be said too often to George Zimmerman, and 2) it’s a great Jennifer Lawrence gif:

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Ginger Snapped’s BFF is learning the hard way that Karma gets you in the end. May Zimmerman spend the rest of his life pushing a cart in various Skid Rows.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:15:41pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:16:43pm

re: #207 Joe Bacon

Ginger Snapped’s BFF is learning the hard way that Karma gets you in the end. May Zimmerman spend the rest of his life pushing a cart in various Skid Rows.

Sadly that comment is from two years ago. George is probably rolling in hookers and coke since he sold the murder gun.

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majii  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:17:07pm

re: #200 PhillyPretzel

“Trump’s First Member? Hmm. Someone might take that the wrong way.”

Ha ha! Made me laugh. I saw what you did.

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MsJ  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:17:37pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

We’re getting expensive Ryan and Trump mailings, with prepaid return envelopes. We answer, but they seem not to be taking our advice.

Don’t forget all…send back those prepaid envelopes. The campaigns have to pay postage if they go through the USPS. Let them pay!

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:18:47pm

It occurs to me that Hillary could take a page from one of Lois McMaster Bujold’s novels.

An emperor had a problem: His prince was a psychotic maniac who would have gotten everyone killed sooner or later if he went on. The emperor hit upon a solution: Send the Prince, and his psychotic cronies and hangers-on, into space combat, all in the same basket.

Then drop the basket.

I wouldn’t blame Hillary for a single moment.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:19:14pm

re: #210 majii

Well that is what happens when your allergies make you stay inside all day taking Benadryl.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:19:37pm

re: #211 MsJ

Don’t forget all…send back those prepaid envelopes. The campaigns have to pay postage if they go through the USPS. Let them pay!

Probably the only payment they won’t be able to slough off or divert into Trump’s pocket.

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William Lewis  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:21:08pm

re: #212 Sherlock Hound

It occurs to me that Hillary could take a page from one of Lois McMaster Bujold’s novels.

An emperor had a problem: His prince was a psychotic maniac who would have gotten everyone killed sooner or later if he went on. The emperor hit upon a solution: Send the Prince, and his psychotic cronies and hangers-on, into space combat, all in the same basket.

Then drop the basket.

I wouldn’t blame Hillary for a single moment.

Ah, you can never trust people that make plans in green silk rooms …

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:21:18pm

re: #211 MsJ

Don’t forget all…send back those prepaid envelopes. The campaigns have to pay postage if they go through the USPS. Let them pay!

I’ve been stuffing Hillary leaflets in every GOP solicitation I’ve received. Ah, it feeeeelllllsss ssssssoooooooo goooooooooooood!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:21:30pm

re: #212 Sherlock Hound

It occurs to me that Hillary could take a page from one of Lois McMaster Bujold’s novels.

An emperor had a problem: His prince was a psychotic maniac who would have gotten everyone killed sooner or later if he went on. The emperor hit upon a solution: Send the Prince, and his psychotic cronies and hangers-on, into space combat, all in the same basket.

Then drop the basket.

I wouldn’t blame Hillary for a single moment.

We’ll send them on ahead, in the B Arc.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:23:44pm

Okay, I don’t normally create links to RedState, but this short article is worth the read:

When Donald Trump is President, the Navy will Begin Executing Michigans (with video of Trump actually saying that reading from a teleprompter).

RedState seems unimpressed with Mr. Trump.

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Interesting Times  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:25:02pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

re: #198 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Dok Zoom at Wonkette debunked that crap months ago:

Wingnuts Having Fine Freakout Over Nonexistent Knife-Wielding Syrian Gang Rapists In Idaho

Holy shit. I hadn’t known about that story, which must be what inspired this malignant “how to pretend to care about rape while still being a misogynistic dickhole” dumbfuckery:

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:25:17pm
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scottslemmons  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:28:00pm

re: #142 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “Idaho” and “Compound” in the same sentence, I think “Aryan Nations”, but maybe that’s just me.

Same here. But I also remember that Timothy McVeigh came out of that same movement. Most of Trump’s deplorables think McVeigh was a hero.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:32:37pm

OH LOOK TEH BUTTHURTZ==>

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:34:59pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK TEH BUTTHURTZ==>

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The seriously failing @nytimes, despite so much winning and poll numbers that will soon put me in first place, only writes dishonest hits!

Soon! Any day now! Hasn’t happened in a year, but it’s coming! You’ll see!

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:35:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:37:09pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

re: #223 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

re: #224 Joe Bacon

According to the mobile version of The New York Times Clinton is at 80% and that Trump person is at 20% of the vote.

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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:41:39pm

re: #225 PhillyPretzel

According to the mobile version of The New York Times Clinton is at 80% and that Trump person is at 20% of the vote.

I think you may have mis-worded this. I’ll buy Clinton has an 80% chance of winning, but certainly not 80% of the vote.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:41:55pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:44:17pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK TEH BUTTHURTZ==>

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Does the GOP really want to keep reminding folks of Willard and how badly he got his ass spanked after they spent months insisting he had the election in the bag?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:44:28pm

re: #226 danarchy

You are probably correct. If you look up thread you will note my post on why I was home all day. My allergies are driving me nuts and the Benadryl might be helping ease the allergies but it is doing a number on my logic.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:47:18pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK TEH BUTTHURTZ==>

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I’m sure some dumb ass like Bannon or Stone told him to tweet that. Trump’s not even savvy enough to come up with something like that. Donald, think about it: what are the differences between Romney’s private talk to multimillionaires and Hillary’s very public statement? One of them had cause to be ashamed.

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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:47:21pm

Why are they still doing head to head polls for Trump and Hillary at all? It isn’t like Johnson and Stein are going to just drop out of the race and they will almost certainly get some percentage of the vote, so what does a head to head poll really tell us?

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Interesting Times  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:48:16pm

LGF shoutout in a random dKos comment:

To wrap this totally too long comment up, here is a post by Josh Marshall from Talking Points Memo with a response from Charles Johnson who was the originator of Little Green Footballs. I believe that what Hillary’s campaign did was very smart as it’s put a spotlight on the racism, and all the other ism’s in the Trump campaign and as you can see — that’s not what the Trump supporters are arguing about, they just didn’t want it pointed out.

See the comment itself for the embedded tweets.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:55:45pm

re: #197 jaunte

I think this is a good point:

One way of reporting on Clinton’s statement is to weigh its political cost, ask what it means for her campaign, or attempt to predict how it might affect her performance among certain groups. This path is in line with the current imperatives of political reporting and, at least for the moment, seems to be the direction of coverage. But there is another line of reporting that could be pursued—Was Hillary Clinton being truthful or not?

And it actually represents the division on the Democratic side. One group is worried about the political cost to the campaign. The other group, which I will claim to be part of, is more concerned about getting its truth out there.

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makeitstop  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:56:17pm

The beauty of Clinton’s remarks is she’s got them in their usual ‘opposite of HRC’ defensive position, and that means the only argument they can make is a defense of bigotry.

When the grass is cut, the snakes will show. Hillary has cut the grass.

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Interesting Times  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:58:27pm

This guy has tweets - the best tweets:

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:58:29pm

re: #233 Belafon

I think this is a good point:

And it actually represents the division on the Democratic side. One group is worried about the political cost to the campaign. The other group, which I will claim to be part of, is more concerned about getting its truth out there.

The former group is, sorry to say, why we so often find ourselves losing elections. They worry less about supporting a candidate who’s speaking the truth than what the people who feel hurt by the telling of that truth will do. “Oh no, what will the neighbors think!?” is their rallying cry.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:59:49pm

re: #234 makeitstop

The beauty of Clinton’s remarks is she’s got them in their usual ‘opposite of HRC’ defensive position, and that means the only argument they can make is a defense of bigotry.

Apparently she has some experience in politics.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2016 • 6:59:58pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:01:17pm

re: #234 makeitstop

The beauty of Clinton’s remarks is she’s got them in their usual ‘opposite of HRC’ defensive position, and that means the only argument they can make is a defense of bigotry.

When the grass is cut, the snakes will show. Hillary has cut the grass.

There was the same thing after the alt-right speech, the whole “We’re not bigots, she is!” business that left them scrambling for anything they could, even invoking the corpse of Robert Byrd to argue she was the “real” racist.

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makeitstop  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:02:00pm

re: #237 jaunte

Apparently she has some experience in politics.

I’ll say it again - I think Obama helped set this trap. They’re in a classic ‘Please proceed’ moment.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:03:36pm

re: #188 GlutenFreeJesus

Here’s what I’m talking about.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:03:40pm

Reality TV promoting christian values

“The Willis Family,” which premiered last year, followed the country-band brood — Willis, his wife Brenda Willis, and their 12 children whose names all begin with the letter J — known onstage as The Willis Clan.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:05:08pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

The former group is, sorry to say, why we so often find ourselves losing elections. They worry less about supporting a candidate who’s speaking the truth than what the people who feel hurt by the telling of that truth will do. “Oh no, what will the neighbors think!?” is their rallying cry.

Not that I know these people personally, but I bet a lot of them are worried about what their white neighbors think.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:06:59pm

re: #78 Sherlock Hound

There’s also the shrinkage problem.

[George Constanza]
I was in the pool!!
[/George Constanza]

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:07:19pm

re: #231 danarchy

Why are they still doing head to head polls for Trump and Hillary at all? It isn’t like Johnson and Stein are going to just drop out of the race and they will almost certainly get some percentage of the vote, so what does a head to head poll really tell us?

Uh, because Johnson “what’s an Alleppo” and Stein “I hang out with Putin” together will win zero electoral votes?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:07:41pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

The former group is, sorry to say, why we so often find ourselves losing elections. They worry less about supporting a candidate who’s speaking the truth than what the people who feel hurt by the telling of that truth will do. “Oh no, what will the neighbors think!?” is their rallying cry.

Do people still use the term “totebaggers” for that demographic?

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:09:25pm

re: #245 Anymouse

Uh, because Johnson “what’s an Alleppo” and Stein “I hang out with Putin” together will win zero electoral votes?

They can still affect the outcome. They could, for instance, pull enough votes from Clinton to shift a state to Trump. Lincoln won the election with only 40% of the popular vote because it was a four man race.

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makeitstop  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:11:08pm

Meanwhile, this happens about a mile from my house - Rival chefs battle in sushi restaurant knife fight

Police busted Kong Chen for assault. It was not clear what caused tempuras to flare.

“It’s OK. Everything is OK. No problem,” manager Jack Chen assured The Post.

“One was sushi chef, one was kitchen chef,” Chen said. “They were both new.”

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MsJ  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:11:13pm

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

Reality TV promoting christian values

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Ah, The Learning Channel.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:11:55pm

re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Do people still use the term “totebaggers” for that demographic?

I would love to see a quick survey of Democrats who support her statements versus those who are wary of them, and who they supported in the primary. Are a lot of the worriers Sanders supports like Darth, or are they the totebagging types?

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:13:54pm

re: #247 Belafon

They can still affect the outcome. They could, for instance, pull enough votes from Clinton to shift a state to Trump. Lincoln won the election with only 40% of the popular vote because it was a four man race.

I don’t see Johnson pulling votes from Democrats, and Stein is on less than half the states’ ballots.

Over at 538, Nate Silver has never plotted Johnson above 0.5% and he doesn’t bother tracking Stein.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:16:47pm

re: #251 Anymouse

I don’t see Johnson pulling votes from Democrats, and Stein is on less than half the states’ ballots.

Over at 538, Nate Silver has never plotted Johnson above 0.5% and he doesn’t bother tracking Stein.

I’ll have to find the poll, and I’m not that good at finding them, but in one of the states Johnson was actually pulling more votes from Clinton than Trump. NeverTrump Republicans could go for Johnson.

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Interesting Times  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:18:30pm

re: #233 Belafon

And it actually represents the division on the Democratic side. One group is worried about the political cost to the campaign. The other group, which I will claim to be part of, is more concerned about getting its truth out there.

There’s one saying about how a “gaffe” is when a politician tells the truth…but another observation I once heard is that a “gaffe” only causes lasting harm when it reinforces existing perceptions.

- Howard Dean was being portrayed as “too angry”, and the infamous scream (grossly exaggerated by media repetition) reinforced that

- Palin was perceived as ignorant, a characteristic constantly reinforced by her 2008 gaffes.

- In contrast, Obama’s “57 states” slip of the tongue didn’t gain any traction outside of RWNJ circles because, if anything, he was perceived as “too intellectual” or “professorial”

So coming back to HRC’s statement - does it reinforce any existing perception of her within the public at large as opposed to just RWNJs? I can’t think of one. If anything, her brutal honesty goes completely against the ridiculous “pandering/insincere” meme.

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:18:48pm

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

Reality TV promoting christian values

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So that’s…what, three of their shows now which have fallen apart due to allegations of child rape/molestation?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:19:39pm

re: #251 Anymouse

I don’t see Johnson pulling votes from Democrats, and Stein is on less than half the states’ ballots.

Over at 538, Nate Silver has never plotted Johnson above 0.5% and he doesn’t bother tracking Stein.

I’m sure that was a .5% chance of winning, which seems way high. His Now-cast today gives him 10.1% of the vote, which seems way, way high.

Edit: Yeah—.5% chance of winning today.

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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:23:31pm

re: #245 Anymouse

Uh, because Johnson “what’s an Alleppo” and Stein “I hang out with Putin” together will win zero electoral votes?

Sure, but they will get some nonzero portion of the popular vote and can actually change who gets those electoral votes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:23:49pm

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

Honey Boo Boo, the Duggars and now this asshole. TLC is racking up quite the scorecard aren’t they?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:24:27pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

annnnd I’m 5 minutes late. :P

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makeitstop  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:24:37pm

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Honey Boo Boo, the Duggars and now this asshole. TLC is racking up the quite the scorecard aren’t they?

What about the gun shop guy? Was he on Discovery?

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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:26:03pm

re: #251 Anymouse

I don’t see Johnson pulling votes from Democrats, and Stein is on less than half the states’ ballots.

Over at 538, Nate Silver has never plotted Johnson above 0.5% and he doesn’t bother tracking Stein.

That’s the thing, when they add Johnson to the polls he does seem to pull slightly more from clinton than trump. It is probably independents who are never trumpers, but really dislike hillary as well.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:26:41pm

re: #146 baski deploribus derpum

I’m making some strides towards unity. Currently, Neil Young and Lynrd Skynyrd are sharing my music stand. Side by side.

May I recommend the addition of the Allman Bros live version of “One Way Out” (IMHO their best live cut with Duane), and “Jessica” (2nd iteration of ABB showcasing a then unknown Chuck Leavell piano solo).

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danarchy  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:33:37pm

re: #251 Anymouse

I don’t see Johnson pulling votes from Democrats, and Stein is on less than half the states’ ballots.

Over at 538, Nate Silver has never plotted Johnson above 0.5% and he doesn’t bother tracking Stein.

Also, Jill Stein is currently on all but 6 state ballots (If her website is to be believed)

jill2016.com

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:43:20pm

re: #256 danarchy

Sure, but they will get some nonzero portion of the popular vote and can actually change who gets those electoral votes.

Not a chance Johnson alters the electoral vote of my state (Nebraska) for example and throws it to Clinton.

Not a chance Stein takes enough votes in New York or California to throw the election in those states to Trump.

Back late: I was walking around the village lowering the village flags for Patriot Day (I don’t normally do that at midnight because I don’t want someone coming out with a shotgun thinking there’s a prowler or something).

Maintenance and upkeep of the village flagstaffs is left to the most lefty person in town.

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:44:23pm

re: #263 Anymouse

Not a chance Johnson alters the electoral vote of my state (Nebraska) for example and throws it to Clinton.

Not a chance Stein takes enough votes in New York or California to throw the election in those states to Trump.

Back late: I was walking around the village lowering the village flags for Patriot Day (I don’t normally do that at midnight because I don’t want someone coming out with a shotgun thinking there’s a prowler or something).

Maintenance and upkeep of the village flagstaffs is left to the most lefty person in town.

They could affect the swing states.

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:45:08pm

re: #262 danarchy

Also, Jill Stein is currently on all but 6 state ballots (If her website is to be believed)

jill2016.com

Her Website is not to be believed.

snopes.com

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 7:46:43pm

re: #264 Belafon

They could affect the swing states.

Name one.

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majii  Sep 10, 2016 • 8:24:33pm

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

“Honey Boo Boo, the Duggars and now this asshole. TLC is racking up quite the scorecard aren’t they?”

Right you are, but after Toby Willis was arrested, TLC’s spokesperson says the family was vetted. What else was TLC going to say at this point after several of their “family values” families have been found to have some very serious problems that don’t exemplify family values at all?

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 8:28:11pm

re: #267 majii

“Honey Boo Boo, the Duggars and now this asshole. TLC is racking up quite the scorecard aren’t they?”

Right you are, but after Toby Willis was arrested, TLC’s spokesperson says the family was vetted. What else was TLC going to say at this point after several of their “family values” families have been found to have some very serious problems that don’t exemplify family values at all?

Find another family and make some more money. I presume Toby’s followers on the show were C&W fans plus former Duggar fans (and don’t one of their kids have a show there too), who were Honey Boo-Boo fans before… .

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majii  Sep 10, 2016 • 8:32:09pm

re: #268 Anymouse

Yes. Jessa Duggar and one of her sisters have a show on TLC that’s called “Counting On.” I saw a commercial for it the other day. Never watched it and don’t plan to.

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geoduck  Sep 10, 2016 • 8:39:45pm

re: #218 Anymouse

RedState seems unimpressed with Mr. Trump.

It’s amusing to watch RedState whipsaw back and forth between Hillary Hate and Trump Hate.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 10, 2016 • 8:43:01pm

re: #270 geoduck

It’s amusing to watch RedState whipsaw back and forth between Hillary Hate and Trump Hate.

I like your ‘nym. The Washington state bird!

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:29:47pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Blew by me—It’s been 50 years since I’ve seen the Judy Holliday film. Also, we do like IO.

I actually watched the last hour of it last week on TCM.

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:35:41pm

re: #186 Belafon

She apologized for “half”. She didn’t apologize for calling out the bigots. In fact, she said:

And again, I’d like to point out that she said she was wrong about “half” but never said if her figure was too high or too low.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:38:32pm

re: #272 BeachDem

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:41:41pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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I love how these people think they’ll just… get away with genocide. Like nobody would shoot back? As if every “libfag” would just get on a train to the fantasy death camps without any fight offered.

Hey Pepistas… Reality check, some of us “cucks” are at least as armed as you claim to be. And we actually leave our homes and have skills…

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sagehen  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:44:39pm

re: #161 Joe Bacon

So sick of Trump that I went to El Cholo here in Los Angeles and enjoyed their incredible tortilla soup and Carne Asada. I told the waitress that I had to escape from Trump.

Then she showed me where folks had a Trump piñata and they were goofing on it.

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!!!

I haven’t been to cholo’s in forever, but OMG do I still remember their amazing nachos.

The other LA restaurants I miss (tell me if they’re still there?) are Pacific Dining Car (especially the happy hour snacks) and Original Tommy’s (at Beverly & Rampart, especially at 2:30 a.m., after a show at the Whiskey or the Roxy).

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 9:56:11pm

re: #242 FormerDirtDart

Reality TV promoting christian values

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TLC sure knows how to pick ‘em. In addition to this sick perv:

Josh Duggar
Cake Boss
Myrtle Manor (2 arrests in one weekend)
Honey Boo Boo’s Mom’s boyfriend
Cheer Perfection mother

I’m sure I’m missing some…

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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2016 • 10:01:35pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

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If that was to me, I couldn’t open it. (And if you’re talking behind my back, well…)

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Anymouse  Sep 10, 2016 • 10:09:14pm

re: #278 BeachDem

If that was to me, I couldn’t open it. (And if you’re talking behind my back, well…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2016 • 1:24:53am

re: #259 makeitstop

What about the gun shop guy? Was he on Discovery?

Chumley of Pawn Stars.

I can not believe I knew that without looking it up…


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