Glenn Reynolds’ USA Today Column Suspended for a Month After Tweet Urging Motorists to Run Over Protesters

Featuring the classic right wing non-apology apology
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After saying earlier today that he was not sorry for his tweet saying motorists should run over protesters, blogger/law professor Glenn Reynolds is now apologizing for it, sort of. It’s one of those “I’m sorry you misunderstood me” non-apology apologies.

And the reason for this is because he apparently nearly lost his USA Today column. It’s been suspended for a month. Here’s his statement at USA Today:

Wednesday night one of my 580,000 tweets blew up. I didn’t live up to my own standards, and I didn’t meet USA TODAY’s standards. For that I apologize, to USA TODAY readers and to my followers on social media.

I was following the riots in Charlotte, against a background of reports of violence. Joe Bruno of WSOC9 interviewed a driver whose truck had been stopped by a mob. Trapped in her cab, she “feared for her life” as her cargo was looted. Then I retweeted a report of mobs “stopping traffic and surrounding vehicles” with the comment, “Run them down.”

Those words can easily be taken to advocate drivers going out of their way to run down protesters. I meant no such thing, and I’m sorry it seemed I did.

Here’s an idea. If you don’t want people to think you mean “run them down,” maybe you shouldn’t write those words and put them on Twitter. Of course, that’s exactly what he did, and what he meant. He was angry and lashed out at the protesters, advocating violence against them, and no attempt to spin it away can erase this fact.

What I meant is that drivers who feel their lives are in danger from a violent mob should not stop their vehicles.

If that’s what he meant, he could have written those words, instead of “run them down.” “Drivers who feel their lives are in danger from a violent mob should not stop their vehicles” fits easily into Twitter’s 140-character limit.

I remember Reginald Denny, a truck driver who was beaten nearly to death by a mob during the 1992 Los Angeles riots.

The protests in Charlotte did include some violence, that’s undoubtedly true. But no motorists were pulled from their cars and “beaten nearly to death,” despite Glenn’s memories of Reginald Denny.

My tweet should have said, “Keep driving,” or “Don’t stop.”

Yes, it “should have” said that, because then his column wouldn’t have been suspended, and the university he works for wouldn’t be investigating him. It’s pretty obvious these factors are the only reason he’s “sorry” at all.

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119 comments

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scottslemmons  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:40:10pm

A month? He got off light. But knowing USA Today, they’re thrilled with the publicity and looking to hire some more bigots to take up the slack.

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:43:11pm

re: #1 scottslemmons

Yeah, mostly I feel these sort of publicly announced decisions are more for attention than anything else. USA Today could just have quietly dropped his column if they really think that Instaidiot isn’t what they want to be identified with.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:46:35pm

He got the same penalty when Opie and Anthony got booted off XM during the Homeless Charlie incident, meanwhile O&A stayed on the air on terrestrial during the ome month XM lockout.

Poor babies-the lot of ‘em.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:47:53pm

Single license plate, county-paid parole under ideas for state budget cuts

Wisconsin vehicles would no longer be required to have two license plates, counties would pay for state parole services and emergency management would stop stockpiling sandbags for communities to fend off floods under $606 million in hypothetical budget cuts agencies submitted to Gov. Scott Walker last week.

The proposals, some submitted under protest, represent the first time agencies were required to comply with a new law requiring budget requests be accompanied by a companion proposal cutting their existing budgets by 5 percent. The plans aren’t binding but provide options for the governor and lawmakers to consider as they prepare the 2017-19 spending plan.

Among the proposed cuts submitted by 45 state agencies: a decrease of nearly 27 state prosecutor positions to help save $2.4 million, millions less in state funding for schools, the elimination of the state’s grain inspection program and fewer course offerings at UW System universities in order to save $195.3 million over two years.

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Cheechako  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:48:20pm

Should have been suspended two months. Or, at least until the election is over.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:51:48pm

Scott Walker questions need for more district attorneys if prosecutors pursue John Doe

Gov. Scott Walker on Thursday questioned the need for more county district attorneys if prosecutors continue to pursue an investigation into his recall campaign after the U.S. Supreme Court rules.

Asked if he was concerned Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm would continue to pursue an investigation after the high court rules on the case, Walker told reporters “most people in this state would think there’s not a lack of work to be done in Milwaukee.”

“We hear not only in that county but in other counties about the need for additional district attorneys and additional resources,” Walker said. “I think a lot of people wonder, if they continue to spend time after the U.S. Supreme Court were to rule on this, if that’s really necessary.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:52:35pm

He’s turned the sleazy carny up to eleventy

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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:55:01pm

I mentioned Reginald Denny earlier in the overnight/morning thread. I knew he was going there. Republicans can be easy to predict oftentimes. Their playbook is well known.

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Dr. Lexus  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:56:13pm

Senate Majority Leader says he wasn’t aware of lead industry donation before vote

Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said Thursday he wasn’t aware that a lead industry magnate had given $750,000 to help Republicans win recall elections in 2011 and 2012 before voting to extend protections to the industry.

Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, also told reporters the Committee to Elect a Republican Senate is not coordinating with third-party groups on electioneering, a practice the Legislature legalized last year after the Wisconsin Supreme Court halted an investigation into whether Gov. Scott Walker’s campaign broke the law by coordinating with the Wisconsin Club for Growth during the recalls.

In a 4-2 decision the court said the coordination was legal so long as the group is engaged in so-called “issue advocacy,” which stops just short of urging voters to vote for or against a particular candidate. The U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to consider taking up an appeal of that case on Monday.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:56:54pm
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ObserverArt  Sep 22, 2016 • 4:59:39pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

He’s turned the sleazy carny up to eleventy

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I have a dream that my country and state stamp out the likes of Donald Trump and he gets dumped in this election big league!

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thedopefishlives  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:00:17pm

Evening Lizardim. So the whole Skittles thing has been getting a lot of play on my FB feed, but in a most unexpected way. Most of my more liberal Christian friends have been re-posting a rather decent FB post; the original is screenshotted in the share, here. The wingnuts, despite professing to be the real Christians and the real Americans, seem not to understand what either Christianity or being American is all about.

How go things among the lizardfolk this cool rainy evening?

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scottslemmons  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:02:28pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

The wingnuts, despite professing to be the real Christians and the real Americans, seem not to understand what either Christianity or being American is all about.

I’ve long believed that if you required Christians to actually read the Gospels, most of them would immediately go on a Bible-burning kick…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:06:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:06:23pm
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CuriousLurker  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:06:24pm

Poor, poor Reynolds. Why did all those violent black protesters make him have flashbacks of the ‘92 LA riots and say something stupid? //

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:06:36pm

Two tweets can’t post together.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:09:28pm
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thedopefishlives  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:11:02pm

re: #13 scottslemmons

I’ve long believed that if you required Christians to actually read the Gospels, most of them would immediately go on a Bible-burning kick…

“WHAT? Jesus hung out with sinners? Butbutbut they’re UNCLEAN!”

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:11:25pm

Trump setting up his “the election was stolen” story.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:16:13pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

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Trump really doesn’t understand how nonprofits work. Hell, he doesn’t realize that government bodies don’t pay taxes.

Oy, I need some aspirin.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:17:17pm

re: #21 Timothy Watson

Trump really doesn’t understand how nonprofits work. Hell, he doesn’t realize that government bodies don’t pay taxes.

Oy, I need some aspirin.

All he knows is TrumpU.

Such a stupid fuck.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:18:35pm

re: #13 scottslemmons

I’ve long believed that if you required Christians to actually read the Gospels, most of them would immediately go on a Bible-burning kick…

Or, they would simply re-write the Bible to their neanderthal standards. Hence the following alarming bit of trash:

conservapedia.com

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:22:24pm
Those words can easily be taken to advocate drivers going out of their way to run down protesters.

But only if you chose to interpret those words as a meaningful sequence of English phonemes. And why would you do that? If you look at them as merely a series of funny squggles, which is obviously how Reynolds intended it to be viewed, you’ll see there’s barely any exhortations to vehicular homicide there!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:23:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:26:30pm

I think I am going to find a nice basement to hide in the night of November 8th…

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:26:43pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It’s hard to fire a tenured professor, especially for something he wrote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:27:51pm

Pretty sure Trumps Bible has replaced all mention of “Sinners” with “Winners”.

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:29:06pm

As for the USA Today job… well, USA Today started out as a national newspaper that was designed to be a bit more fluffier than the serious journalism heavyweights of that day (like the NYT.) It was always light on substance, more about getting a color-photo filled national newspaper into wider circulation.

In the era of online “news”, USA Today is just another website trying to get hits. Controversy generates hits.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:31:06pm

Breitbart commentators going batshit crazy over “Hero cop” charged with manslaughter in the shooting death of “thug” Terence Crutcher.
breitbart.com

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Timothy Watson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:31:27pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I think I am going to find a nice basement to hide in the night of November 8th…

I need to buy some ammo.

/ (half)

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:31:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:32:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:33:48pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Two tweets can’t post together.

You can put as many tweets in a comment as you like, but they each need to be on their own line.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:34:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:34:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:35:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:35:35pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:36:24pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:36:43pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:39:55pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:41:29pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Hillary in 1969, after she shrank from all that Cuban farm work.

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compound_Idaho  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:42:18pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

The problem with the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value. The exception maybe the hard sciences and engineering. You still need to worry that your future employer doesn’t go the H1B route. Providing loans and grants only exacerbates the problem. (see subprime mortgage crisis)

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thedopefishlives  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:43:07pm

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

Breitbart commentators going batshit crazy over “Hero cop” charged with manslaughter in the shooting death of “thug” Terence Crutcher.
breitbart.com

I heard a good explanation on this, again, from one of my more liberal FB friends. The official story is that the cop reacted to the guy being tased by twitching her trigger finger, and that she was negligent by having her finger on the trigger and by having the gun pointed at Crutcher. For once, the official explanation actually sounds reasonably plausible, and would fit with the charge of manslaughter.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:43:25pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

To be fair, she’s meeting a higher standard than the AP. At least her tweet was directly associated with the “context” she says makes it not a lie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:45:27pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

How much you want to bet Trump will invite that cop to a campaign event?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:46:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:46:56pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:48:25pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

The problem with the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value. The exception maybe the hard sciences and engineering. You still need to worry that your future employer doesn’t go the H1B route. Providing loans and grants only exacerbates the problem. (see subprime mortgage crisis)

The exceptions include a lot of people in the ‘soft’ sciences, too, asshole jerk.

/sociology

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:51:04pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:51:50pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

The problem with the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value. The exception maybe the hard sciences and engineering. You still need to worry that your future employer doesn’t go the H1B route. Providing loans and grants only exacerbates the problem. (see subprime mortgage crisis)

You’re painting with a broad brush here. College was never supposed to be vocational education.

Edited to add: Employers are now starting to want colleges to do vocational training, as feral capitalism marches on.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:52:25pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I heard a good explanation on this, again, from one of my more liberal FB friends. The official story is that the cop reacted to the guy being tased by twitching her trigger finger, and that she was negligent by having her finger on the trigger and by having the gun pointed at Crutcher. For once, the official explanation actually sounds reasonably plausible, and would fit with the charge of manslaughter.

That looks like it, especially since there were several cops present, only one fired, and she fired only one shot.
A reminder: It was also in Tulsa that a 73 year old reserve deputy apparently mistook his gun for a taser and ended up killing another unarmed black man, Eric Harris.
Ex-Oklahoma deputy Robert Bates guilty of killing unarmed suspect

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:52:29pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

With a Trump presidency, state-controlled media, here we come!

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:53:19pm

re: #53 Eric The Fruit Bat

With a Trump presidency, state-controlled media, here we come!

Precedent for this include those “free speech zones” under W Bush.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:55:30pm
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majii  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:55:42pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

“The problem with the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value. The exception maybe the hard sciences and engineering. You still need to worry that your future employer doesn’t go the H1B route. Providing loans and grants only exacerbates the problem. (see subprime mortgage crisis)”

I disagree that “the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value, etc.,” because, I, a black female, did not major in a hard science or in engineering, and I went on to have a very successful teaching career of over 30 years. It was a career that allowed me to retire with a good pension, a pension that means I don’t have to be a greeter at Walmart to supplement my pension. I’ve always had a thirst for learning, and college enabled me to expand on that thirst until this very day. As for repaying my loans, because I was offered a job before I graduated college, I had no problem repaying my loans. After graduating from college, I went on to earn multiple graduate degrees, and I was never unemployed after that until I retired in 2009.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:56:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:56:47pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Thank you!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 5:59:54pm

Looks like Bernie got his wish:

Federal prosecutors are in the early stages of an investigation into sales practices at Wells Fargo & Co. that led to the bank being hit last week with a $185 million fine, according to people familiar with the matter.

Then again, this may net out to a whole lotta nothing, just like robo-signing: a few heads taken, but millions damaged along the way.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:00:40pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:01:32pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

This logic says that only things that provide for your future income have value and are worth learning.

Could actually be what you believe, I don’t know.

I don’t find it to be the most useful metric, personally.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:04:44pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

There you go!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:05:22pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:05:56pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:06:45pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

You should see me with my new windows 10. GAH.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:07:08pm

Uday (or is it Qusay?) is in Colorado this evening. Ugh.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:08:20pm

re: #63 Ziggy_TARDIS

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:10:01pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

“we are going to keep our public lands* public & accessible”

*some shrinkage may occur

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:10:25pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

The problem with the high cost of a college education is not so much the high price, but the fact that you do not learn much of any value. The exception maybe the hard sciences and engineering. You still need to worry that your future employer doesn’t go the H1B route. Providing loans and grants only exacerbates the problem. (see subprime mortgage crisis)

People who are good at math/science and nothing else tend to end up like William Shockley or Wernher von Braun. Not exactly good role models.

Some level of general education really is necessary for one to be civilized. That doesn’t have to come from a college education, of course, but that impetus toward civilization is the basis for most college curricula.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:10:30pm

re: #66 teleskiguy

Uday (or is it Qusay) is in Colorado this evening. Ugh.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:11:17pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

You should see me with my new windows 10. GAH.

I fecking hate it. There’s no more “let me decide when to update Windows” it’s done by them and them alone. The Start menu doesn’t open apps, it tries to install them - and then fails.

Fuck Microsoft. What a bunch of crap.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:11:22pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:12:54pm

re: #63 Ziggy_TARDIS

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:14:30pm

The Trump Cult is some scary ass shit.

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:14:38pm

re: #29 freetoken

I’d add that the stories were designed to fit just the page they were printed on, no jumpers except for the “headline” story. The damn thing was designed for people in airports, not serious readers of the news.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:15:03pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:16:01pm

re: #43 compound_Idaho

In my circles on Reddit, we joke about Le Reddit STEMLord. That site sure has a lot of smart people with technical degrees!

/////

Actually, no.

Most of Le Reddit has failed sandbox. Many more are on the way towards failing life.

I am the worst geek. I DO have a CS degree!

I’ll nod to those who have a real life, thanks.

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:16:12pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Ailes’s lawyer Susan Estrich?

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:16:38pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. So the whole Skittles thing has been getting a lot of play on my FB feed, but in a most unexpected way. Most of my more liberal Christian friends have been re-posting a rather decent FB post; the original is screenshotted in the share, here. The wingnuts, despite professing to be the real Christians and the real Americans, seem not to understand what either Christianity or being American is all about.

How go things among the lizardfolk this cool rainy evening?

It cracks me up that everyone in the replies thinks the person was saying “Yeah, keep those refugees out of America.”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:16:56pm

re: #73 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:17:30pm

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Frankie Five Angels  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:17:54pm

re: #78 b.d.

Ailes’s lawyer Susan Estrich?

The Democratic consultant?

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:20:16pm

re: #82 Frankie Five Angels

The Democratic consultant?

That would be her

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:21:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:22:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:22:19pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:23:26pm

...

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:24:27pm

re: #87 EPR-radar

This post isn’t private. Please rectify.

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thedopefishlives  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:25:21pm

re: #79 Belafon

It cracks me up that everyone in the replies thinks the person was saying “Yeah, keep those refugees out of America.”

Heh. I didn’t even read the comments. I never do.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:26:49pm

re: #87 EPR-radar

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:27:09pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

This post isn’t private. Please rectify.

Deleted.

Edited to add: It should have been behind spoiler tags, and seemed to display OK on my computer. Was the text in clear for you?

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freetoken  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:27:53pm

re: #90 Kragar

You know that MLK meme that is posted everywhere, about him not killing anyone or destroying any property but that he changed the world?

I’m so tempted with making one of George Washington, and put in text that he did kill people, did destroy property… and changed the world.

Just to see what the replies would be.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:28:38pm

Look at what Trump hath wrought.

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electrotek  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:28:42pm

Some good news here guys!

After hounding their Twitter account, I finally got someone from Hilton Corporate to compensate me for my towing fee at the Hampton Inn Santa Ana location. I even pushed them to compensate me for my night’s stay due to the length of time I had to wait for the issue to be resolved, and this is their response:

On one hand, I’m satisfied that they will at least send me a check to compensate me for the wrongful tow, but on the other, if they wish to retain me as a customer for any Hilton-owned property, they could have went up a notch and refunded my night’s stay.

Special thanks goes to MsJ, and a few others I have trouble recalling for their advice, wheat-dogghazi-mailgate, and Stanley Sea. I owe you guys a big one for helping me lessen the stress and headache from this ordeal.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:30:45pm

re: #95 electrotek

So glad you’re getting this resolved.

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electrotek  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:39:22pm

re: #96 MsJ

So glad you’re getting this resolved.

For sure. I’m still going to leave 1 star reviews of the location as it wasn’t the GM that resolved it, but Corporate itself. The GM was a piece of shit who kept blowing me off and didn’t really care to have this issue resolved.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:40:27pm

re: #97 electrotek

Sometimes you have to go to the top and tell them what is going on locally. :)

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:42:11pm
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electrotek  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:42:18pm

re: #98 PhillyPretzel

Sometimes you have to go to the top and tell them what is going on locally. :)

I had to deal with their Guest Assistance social media team for any possible resolution though. Every time I called their call center they could never get anything done. At first they said they wouldn’t be able to assist me and to have the location resolve it for me…which obviously didn’t work.

If I had dealt with their social media team from the beginning, I wouldn’t have to deal with that headache at all and would have been resolved in a timely manner.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:42:38pm

re: #97 electrotek

For sure. I’m still going to leave 1 star reviews of the location as it wasn’t the GM that resolved it, but Corporate itself. The GM was a piece of shit who kept blowing me off and didn’t really care to have this issue resolved.

Personally, I’d be going for the comp’d night and a freebie at my leisure. 😋

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:45:49pm

re: #71 MsJ

I fecking hate it. There’s no more “let me decide when to update Windows” it’s done by them and them alone. The Start menu doesn’t open apps, it tries to install them - and then fails.

Fuck Microsoft. What a bunch of crap.

Sorry, had to take a call from my Aunt Joan.

I am having the hardest time with Outlook - every time I exit an email it takes me to the BS windows screen. NO, I want to stay in outlook.

So many more keystrokes.

I will prob figure it out. Eventually.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:46:06pm
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:46:21pm

re: #97 electrotek

For sure. I’m still going to leave 1 star reviews of the location as it wasn’t the GM that resolved it, but Corporate itself. The GM was a piece of shit who kept blowing me off and didn’t really care to have this issue resolved.

Be very explicit in your review, especially if it’s via a link sent to you by Hilton (we do that from AmericInn). Companies rarely notice bad reviews on external sites (Yelp too unless it goes viral) but bad ones on the site set up by corporate? Those can cause that GM serious heart ache.

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electrotek  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:46:53pm

re: #101 MsJ

Personally, I’d be going for the comp’d night and a freebie at my leisure. 😋

I’ll keep pushing for the comp’d night and a possible freebie honestly. Had this been done a week after the towing mishap occurred, I would have been satisfied 100% with the compensation for the towing. But over a month later? Sorry, compensate my night’s stay and give me a possible freebie if you want me to even consider staying at any Hilton-owned property from this point forward.

Never had this issue with Marriott, and I had a few friends scream “AIRBNB” to me but fuck that. AirBNB isn’t all it’s cracked up to be at times.

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electrotek  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:48:04pm

re: #104 William Lewis

Be very explicit in your review, especially if it’s via a link sent to you by Hilton (we do that from AmericInn). Companies rarely notice bad reviews on external sites (Yelp too unless it goes viral) but bad ones on the site set up by corporate? Those can cause that GM serious heart ache.

I never received a link by Hilton, which leads me to believe that my reservation may have been tampered with by the Front End Manager and/or the GM.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:49:08pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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So surprised that Trump doesn’t want the moderator to fact check him.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:49:15pm

re: #76 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:50:14pm

re: #82 Frankie Five Angels

The Democratic consultant?

Ailes’ Lawyer. She denies any participation in the latest charges.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 6:52:20pm

re: #95 electrotek

Some good news here guys!

[Embedded content]

On one hand, I’m satisfied that they will at least send me a check to compensate me for the wrongful tow, but on the other, if they wish to retain me as a customer for any Hilton-owned property, they could have went up a notch and refunded my night’s stay.

Special thanks goes to MsJ, and a few others I have trouble recalling for their advice, wheat-dogghazi-mailgate, and Stanley Sea. I owe you guys a big one for helping me lessen the stress and headache from this ordeal.

Good going!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:00:18pm

re: #107 Big Beautiful Door

So surprised that Trump doesn’t want the moderator to fact check him.

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He doesn’t want moderators, he wants Wrestlemania==>

The Battle of the Billionaires takes place at WrestleMania

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:02:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:08:51pm

Oh crap

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:11:12pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

I read that earlier…breaks my heart.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:12:59pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Not to belabor the point but this comment from the site I read the story at had me LOLing.

Brad. You loved your celebrity husband Brad. And then you totaled him…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:42:08pm

re: #115 MsJ

Not to belabor the point but this comment from the site I read the story at had me LOLing.

lol

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 22, 2016 • 7:53:49pm

re: #107 Big Beautiful Door

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thecommodore  Sep 22, 2016 • 10:03:31pm

re: #5 Cheechako

Should have been suspended two months. Or, at least until the election is over.

Or had his blue check mark taken away.

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steve_davis  Sep 24, 2016 • 6:32:08am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I heard a good explanation on this, again, from one of my more liberal FB friends. The official story is that the cop reacted to the guy being tased by twitching her trigger finger, and that she was negligent by having her finger on the trigger and by having the gun pointed at Crutcher. For once, the official explanation actually sounds reasonably plausible, and would fit with the charge of manslaughter.

Yep. That’s my assumption. She had her finger on the trigger rather than where it was supposed to be, and the various alternate explanations are bullshit. Of course, that makes her guilty of manslaughter, so they can’t go with that explanation.


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