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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2016 • 10:49:36am

It’s pretty bad when the funny people can do serious better than the serious people.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2016 • 10:52:43am

No doubt the two candidates have been treated differently. It’s obvious to anyone paying attention. But partisanship blinds many and common sense and reason are thrown out the window. That being said. We all need some:

Pen pineapple apple pen song

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2016 • 10:53:42am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s pretty bad when the funny people can do serious better than the serious people.

2012 wasn’t much different. When Jon Stewart did a better job covering the election than say MtP or Face the Nation and the serious journalists™, you know something’s seriously wrong.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2016 • 10:56:18am
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KingKenrod  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:00:10am

And Oliver barely scratched the surface of Trump’s scandals.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:02:25am

Nobody whines like a Politico journalist.

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Great White Snark  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:02:31am

Starting to wonder if they are worth a follow ///
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:03:38am

ETA: See Snopes update below.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:05:34am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:07:03am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

What many are really saying: voters are stupid and the press should try to manipulate the public


— Marc Caputo

Or educate the public.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:09:36am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

That ought to be a firing offense right there.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:09:49am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Really doing a great job changing perceptions of them. NOT.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:12:46am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because traffic stops are so unsafe that they have time to pop up the trunk and hit the manual release with their backs to the car they’ve just pulled over?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:12:53am

Li’l Whipsies playing Magical Balance Fairy

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:13:43am

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:14:00am

If Trump doesn’t pass gas on stage, the media is going to declare him the winner.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:15:55am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MOSTLY FALSE per Snopes:

WHAT’S FALSE: The vehicles’ hoods were raised during a lengthy investigation on a hot day to prevent the units from overheating and not to obstruct the units’ dash cams, and the department has no policy allowing the latter

snopes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:16:22am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OK, here’s what snopes has to say about it:

WHAT’S TRUE: Images depicting Danville police vehicles with raised hoods are genuine and unaltered.

WHAT’S FALSE: The vehicles’ hoods were raised during a lengthy investigation on a hot day to prevent the units from overheating and not to obstruct the units’ dash cams, and the department has no policy allowing the latter

snopes.com

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:18:27am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #12 Belafon

That ought to be a firing offense right there.

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Really doing a great job changing perceptions of them. NOT.

re: #14 Timothy Watson

Because traffic stops are so unsafe that they have time to pop up the trunk and hit the manual release with their backs to the car they’ve just pulled over?

Somehow, I doubt that’s what they were doing, though I could be wrong; I see police cruisers that are working road construction and other places where they are needing to be conspicious, but stationary (not running traffic) for long periods of time that pop their hoods open all the time when it’s warm/hot here in Nashville, even at night.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:19:01am

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:19:02am

re: #18 Timothy Watson

MOSTLY FALSE per Snopes:

snopes.com

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, here’s what snopes has to say about it:

snopes.com

Hehe, I was beat to it.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:20:30am

re: #20 TedStriker

Somehow, I doubt that’s what they were doing, though I could be wrong; I see police cruisers that are working road construction and other places where they are needing to be conspicious, but stationary (not running traffic) that pop their hoods open all the time when it’s warm/hot here in Nashville, even at night.

Yeah, that’s what started my digging. I’ve seen a sheriff’s deputy, who was a family friend, pop the hood on a vehicle because he was worried about it overheating.

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Alephnaught  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:20:54am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Nobody whines like a Politico journalist.

“What many are really saying: voters are stupid and the press should try to manipulate the public”

What that statement really means:
1) We think the voters are to stupid to be trusted with making an informed decision based on the facts, so we won’t report them. (Even though That used to be our job.)
2) We’re too afraid to rock the boat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:21:05am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:21:05am

re: #22 TedStriker

Hehe, I was beat to it.

I have to relish one of the few times I manage to beat someone. :)

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Joe Bacon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:21:31am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

If Trump doesn’t pass gas on stage, the media is going to declare him the winner.

If Trump farts just wait for Frank Luntz’s focus group on get down on their knees, genuflect and praise God for sending them a divine message…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:22:32am

heh

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:22:42am

re: #27 Joe Bacon

If Trump farts just wait for Frank Luntz’s focus group on get down on their knees, genuflect and praise God for sending them a divine message…

A Trump fart would be substantially less offensive than most of what the man says, so his base might be disappointed.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:22:59am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

All… these… worlds … are yours…
Except Europa…
Attempt no landings there.

We can’t make this any more explicit. Don’t make me go berserk again. You wouldn’t like it. /HAL9000

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:24:38am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

If Trump doesn’t pass gas on stage, the media is going to declare him the winner.

I’m going to copy the text from here because it’s important to keep in mind:

Sam Wang notes:

1. What commentators think about “exceeding expectations” is an anti-indicator. Here is survey data on who was expected to do better in past debates.

CNN/Gallup: debate expectations gaps

16: HRC +10
12: BHO +25
08: BHO +25
04: Bush +13
00: Gore +8
96: WJC +52
92: WJC +8
84: RWR: +39

— Will Jordan (@williamjordann) September 23, 2016

Notice a pattern: all of these candidates ended up winning the popular vote. The explanation is simple: people can tell who the stronger candidate is, and expect that person to do well.

Think about this for a moment. What does it mean for a candidate to “exceed expectations”? It usually means that he/she was the weaker candidate to begin with. So if some commentator emits hot gas about either candidate doing better than expected, there is a good chance that candidate will be the loser in November.

election.princeton.edu

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:26:36am

lolololol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:29:56am

lizards with satellite tv:

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gocart mozart  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:31:40am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:32:18am

Well, I did the most political thing I’m going to do today: donated again to the HRC campaign.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:32:21am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:33:20am

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, I did the most political thing I’m going to do today: donated again to the HRC campaign.

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Yeah, I was going to throw some more money her way when I get paid on Friday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:33:56am

Steve King can just fuck off in the corner all by himself…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:34:40am

re: #37 Timothy Watson

Yeah, I was going to throw some more money her way when I get paid on Friday.

We’d been talking about doing another donation so I just finally went ahead and did it this morning.

It’ll make me feel better about all the stupid punditry that goes by today, knowing I’ve chucked in some $$$ to help combat it.

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:35:51am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #30 lawhawk

All… these… worlds … are yours…
Except Europa…
Attempt no landings there.

We can’t make this any more explicit. Don’t make me go berserk again. You wouldn’t like it. /HAL9000

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:36:38am

#Nazi Youth, Trump Flags Side-By-Side At Pennsylvania Fair #Debates #MAGA #KKKlassy crooksandliars.com

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:36:49am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:36:54am

It’s already over 90. This is why I did my run already.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:37:11am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve King can just fuck off in the corner all by himself…

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We know that a certain asshole from Iowa has been off his meds for years!

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:37:14am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve King - white nationalist. White supremacist? Neo Nazi?

It’d be impossible not to speculate, and be right. Alt-right my ass. It’s a cover for overt bigotry and mainstreaming white supremacist Neo Nazi tropes.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:38:16am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve King can just fuck off in the corner all by himself…

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And there’s another one with King posing with some European wingnuts and talking about “demographic suicide”. Don’t know how recent it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:38:44am

re: #45 lawhawk

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Steve King - white nationalist. White supremacist? Neo Nazi?

It’d be impossible not to speculate, and be right. Alt-right my ass. It’s a cover for overt bigotry and mainstreaming white supremacist Neo Nazi tropes.

Yeah, I was just going to post that one. He isn’t even trying to pretend anymore.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:38:45am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:38:59am

re: #45 lawhawk

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Steve King - white nationalist. White supremacist? Neo Nazi?

It’d be impossible not to speculate, and be right. Alt-right my ass. It’s a cover for overt bigotry and mainstreaming white supremacist Neo Nazi tropes.

Sorry, not “demographic suicide”, but “cultural suicide”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:40:45am

re: #45 lawhawk

Compared to the other two in the photo, Geert looks like one of those giant puppet heads you see in protest parades.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:42:23am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone’s fingers are gonna be sore tomorrow.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:42:43am

“Demographic transformation” is the PC version of “White Genocide”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:43:09am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Compared to the other two in the photo, Geert looks like one of those giant puppet heads you see in protest parades.

Beat me to it. He’s got an astoundingly large papier-mache head.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:43:28am

re: #45 lawhawk

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Steve King - white nationalist. White supremacist? Neo Nazi?

It’d be impossible not to speculate, and be right. Alt-right my ass. It’s a cover for overt bigotry and mainstreaming white supremacist Neo Nazi tropes.

There won’t be any actual loss when the number of white supremacists shrink to meeting in a bar once a year.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:44:31am

re: #53 Dr. Matt

“Demographic transformation” is the PC version of “White Genocide”

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Rather than ‘PC’, I’d call it ‘DW’ (Dog Whistle).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:46:52am

re: #54 Barefoot Grin

Beat me to it. He’s got an astoundingly large papier-mache head.

It really is an amazing thing to see.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:47:35am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

I particularly like the “even Michelle Obama” line. I am really going to miss her as FLOTUS.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:49:05am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

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I really don’t know how to respond to people who call Hillary “flawed” or whatever else. Are you going to vote for the person you agree with 90% of the time or the person you agree with 0% of the time?

Fucking malcontents need to grow up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:49:36am

OK, I looked it up.
yeah…wish I had not…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:51:26am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:53:41am

:D

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:54:19am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got a guess and I’m just going to go with that because I really don’t want to know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:54:34am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:55:04am

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve got a guess and I’m just going to go with that because I really don’t want to know.

yeppers. trust your instincts on this one.

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:55:52am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Steve King can just fuck off in the corner all by himself…

I suppose this is progress of a sort. 20 years ago he’d be asking if she was on the rag.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:55:53am

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Great lies. Wonderful lies. Big lies. The biggest of lies.

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EmmaAnne  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:57:19am

This is a good, detailed, and entertaining look at the scandals. But John is being very naive when he says that if Hillary had carried two Blackberries there would have been no scandal. Nothing she does or doesn’t do ever prevents a scandal, and this one is not even close.

Consider. Someone would have sent her work stuff on her home Blackberry - and personal stuff on her work Blackberry. Someone would have sent something that included arguably classified stuff to the home Blackberry and to the work Blackberry (remember the work account wasn’t for classified material either). So obviously she is channeling things through her home Blackberry in order to hide them and is secretive and dishonest. She is putting the nation at risk by receiving emails that might include material that might be classified. None of the accusations go away or get any better no matter what she does, because people do send send the wrong stuff to the wrong email accounts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:57:49am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:57:54am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

If Trump doesn’t pass gas on stage, the media is going to declare him the winner.

We have entered into what prior to this last year would’ve been viewed as a dark satirical comedy like Being There in which the campaign for President has been converted into a reality TV show. Except this is real life. Being There and Idiocracy turned out to be prophetic visions of the future. Dog help us all.

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:58:01am

A public service from Raw Story. You’re welcome.

WARNING: Drinking every time Trump lies during the debate could lead to alcohol poisoning and death

rawstory.com

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:58:16am

re: #66 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

Tonight’s biggest post #debate question: Inquiring American minds will want to know, was Hillary on her meds or off her meds?
— Steve King

Is this the culture King worries is committing suicide? Let’s help speed it along, shall we.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:58:44am

re: #59 Timothy Watson

I really don’t know how to respond to people who call Hillary “flawed” or whatever else. Are you going to vote for the person you agree with 90% of the time or the person you agree with 0% of the time?

Fucking malcontents need to grow up.

I can’t see the picture, but this was written last week about Hillary being flawed:

I’m officially done with the “she’s so flawed but she is the lesser of two evils” rhetoric. Cause, you know, I’m flawed. And you are flawed. And Bernie Sanders is flawed and Barack Obama is flawed and even Michelle Obama is flawed. But the difference between all of them and me—and probably you, is that they have all given their flawed lives to public service. And now, they are all working together in their inevitably flawed ways, to save all of us, and the whole world from a sociopathic narcissist. And every day, Hillary puts a hopefully unflawed bullet proof vest on her flawed and aging and sometimes unsmiling self and stands up in front of people who have been incited by her opponent to shoot her, and she says calm and rational and intelligent (and sometimes flawed) things about how to make a difference. In my book that makes her a fucking rock star. And in the words of another flawed and resilient rock star. There is a crack in everything. That’s where the light gets in.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2016 • 11:59:52am

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At first, I read the text in the blue circle as “The Politico Circus”

#MoreAccurateAnyway

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:00:46pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:00:51pm

BTW, for everyone that writes some variation of “If Hillary’s less than perfect she loses, but if Donald shows up tomorrow he wins” make sure you are doing two things tomorrow:
1. Being angry at everyone who declares Hillary the loser and Donald the winner.
2. Finding some way to help the Hillary campaign, even if it’s just donating.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:01:03pm

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

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Pancakes are awesome. Team Pancakes.

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EmmaAnne  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:01:44pm

I understand why Hillary can’t do this, but I wish she could just say, “You are applying Hillary Rules and I am no longer going to apologize for things - or repeatedly answer questions about things - that would be perfectly normal, non-scandalous behavior if any other politician did them.”

And then just answer “Hillary Rules” every time someone asks the same thing again.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:03:03pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Gunman who wounded 9 was wearing Nazi uniform, police say

When asked if she believes the shooting was related to terrorism, Montalvo said that she is not ready to say that yet.

Does it depend on what one finds terrorizing?

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:03:17pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:04:48pm

SO MUCH BUTTHURT

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:05:39pm

I like to imagine Alice The Engineer inventing a self-powering machine that kicks Scott Adam’s ass forever.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:05:41pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH BUTTHURT

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The slow descent into Steven Crowderism is a shame to behold.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:07:08pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Gunman who wounded 9 was wearing Nazi uniform, police say

OK, now it’s just getting beyond weird.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:08:05pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s not just a burn, that’s an impact crater.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:09:13pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Gunman who wounded 9 was wearing Nazi uniform, police say

Clearly mentally disturbed, unlike the Mall shooter this weekend, who was clearly a terrorist.//

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:09:32pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Trump supporter!

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:09:57pm

A story with a little press, that’s going to be misinterpreted and misused:

Study: Earth’s roughly warmest in about 100,000 years

A new study paints a picture of an Earth that is warmer than it has been in about 120,000 years, and is locked into eventually hitting its hottest mark in more than 2 million years.

As part of her doctoral dissertation at Stanford University, Carolyn Snyder , now a climate policy official at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, created a continuous 2 million year temperature record, much longer than a previous 22,000 year record. Snyder’s temperature reconstruction, published Monday in the journal Nature , doesn’t estimate temperature for a single year, but averages 5,000-year time periods going back a couple million years.

[…]

The part I bold-faced is not in doubt. But that was not the only conclusion the author reached. It goes on:

Snyder said if climate factors are the same as in the past — and that’s a big if — Earth is already committed to another 7 degrees or so (about 4 degrees Celsius) of warming over the next few thousand years.

[…]

A fifth scientist, Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University, called the study provocative and interesting but said he remains skeptical until more research confirms it. He found the future temperature calculations “so much higher than prevailing estimates that one has to consider it somewhat of an outlier.”

In lieu of the current flap about “fact checking” I guess we should give AP credit for getting multiple opinions on the letter in Nature. And indeed Mann’s take is that which the people over at RealClimate noted today (and they apparently knew this paper was coming as a few days prior they already posted a warning about using paleoclimate to calculate Earth system sensitivity (ESS)):

The Snyder Sensitivity Situation

The paper claims that ESS is ~9ºC and that this implies that the long term committed warming from today’s CO2 levels is a further 3-7ºC. This is simply wrong. [emp. in original]

The error in the letter in Nature will eventually be corrected in regards to the ESS estimate.

But I believe the bigger problem is that the nay-sayers will exploit and take out of context the criticisms.

There is no doubt about the value of the paleoclimate work. There is no doubt that current surface temperatures are higher than they’ve been since the peak of the last inter-glacial. All that is really wrong is the estimation of the ESS, and there the wrongness is just that a larger ESS is derived than by better attested methods.

The letter in Nature:

Evolution of global temperature over the past two million years

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:10:33pm

MAGICAL BALANCE FAIRY OF THE DAY

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piratedan  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:11:19pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

doesn’t matter how accurate and appropriate it is… but hey, for some people voting for a proto-fascist, sexist, racist dude is righteous.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:11:22pm

I have never been much of a RHCP fan, but getting ready this morning I was channel surfing [away from anything that was the news] and heard this new song from the group. Great melody. I love the crescendo as the song builds intensity from verse to verse. Really great video. I may purchase my first RHCP song.

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Brendan’s Death Song [Official Music Video]
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Brendan’s Death Song

P.S. Why is Will Ferrell playing drums? /

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:11:53pm

Two points:
1. Charles P. Pierce is not a fan of Ken Starr
2. Bullshit Singularity is my new favorite potential band name

I was in dangerous proximity to a bullshit singularity, which, as you know, is the physical phenomenon of a one-dimensional point that contains a huge mass of bullshit in an infinitely small space. I could have been converted into pure bullshit energy and fired off through space and time, never to return. The one-dimensional point that contained a huge mass of bullshit in an infinitely small space had a name. It was Kenneth Starr.

…Frogs, I thought. A downpour of frogs.

Whole thing is great.

esquire.com

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:13:26pm

repost from below

NYDN suggests some questions they’d like Donald to answer:

nydailynews.com

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:14:02pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

MAGICAL BALANCE FAIRY OF THE DAY

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Hmmm, so someone has the anti-Cosmo beat for wingnut Twitter. I wondered who had that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:14:08pm

re: #90 freetoken

It was 90+F here in the Backwoods on Sunday, tonight the low is forecast to be 47F.

I just want some pleasant middle ground…IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR????

sorry…I get carried away sometimes…

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Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:14:10pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Gunman who wounded 9 was wearing Nazi uniform, police say

…and a million rightwingers will suddenly remember that the original Aryans were from the middle east.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:14:47pm

re: #98 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)

…and a million rightwingers will suddenly remember that the original Aryans were from the middle east.

Or even India or Pakistan!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:14:51pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cat doesn’t like Trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:15:21pm

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

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that will always be a classic.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:16:32pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH BUTTHURT

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Well, Scott, the Hitler analogies seem pretty apt, considering what Trump says and who he courts.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:20:14pm

re: #93 Dr. Matt

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Brendan’s Death Song

P.S. Why is Will Ferrell playing drums? /

Will Ferrell and Chad Smith Drum-Off

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:20:20pm

re: #83 The Vicious Babushka

SO MUCH BUTTHURT

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:20:56pm

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ll be honest, for a moment there, I thought I was about to see the death of a TV.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:21:05pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was 90+F here in the Backwoods on Sunday, tonight the low is forecast to be 47F.

I just want some pleasant middle ground…IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR????

sorry…I get carried away sometimes…

I dunno, 47 sounds lovely to me.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:21:09pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Santa Ana conditions here today. Morning heated up quickly, then gusty winds, then strange clouds. Very dry. Very very dry. Red Flag warning over most of SoCal.

It’s currently 97F down at Lindbergh Field, which is right on the bay.

It was expected to get over 100F where I am at, but now with high clouds the temp has gone down a bit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:23:22pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:24:04pm

Two new national polls out:

NBC: Clinton +7 two-way, +5 four-way
Monmouth: Clinton +4

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:24:39pm

re: #107 freetoken

Santa Ana conditions here today. Morning heated up quickly, then gusty winds, then strange clouds. Very dry. Very very dry. Red Flag warning over most of SoCal.

It’s currently 97F down at Lindbergh Field, which is right on the bay.

It was expected to get over 100F where I am at, but now with high clouds the temp has gone down a bit.

I’m the only one who looks at that as good news. I have a firefighter’s bike in my stand, and he’s working in California right now, and estimated his return, ‘in the middle of September’. Bike’s not done. Soon, but a different one is expected Weds., and she’s in town.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:24:59pm

Let us hope Rick Lazio is coaching Trump in the finer points of being a master debater.

First Debate Clinton-Lazio, 2000 - Part 6

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:26:03pm

re: #109 Sir John Barron

Two new national polls out:

NBC: Clinton +7 two-way, +5 four-way
Monmouth: Clinton +4

No, freak out, because Nate needs his horserace money.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:26:30pm

Yeah because Harry Reid has such a history of pandering to white racists. Oh wait except he totally doesn’t. Another Whiplash FAIL.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:28:45pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah because Harry Reid has such a history of pandering to white racists. Oh wait except he totally doesn’t. Another Whiplash FAIL.

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Ben must have been to young to get the part where Reid apologized.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:29:02pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Does Ben have anything else to do besides tweeting to people who don’t even know who he is?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:29:52pm

re: #114 Belafon

Ben must have been to young to get the part where Reid apologized.

Li’l Whipsies’ thing is taking random, out of context quotes and HURR HURR PWN3D LIBTARD!!!!!11

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Timothy Watson  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:30:02pm

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

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Not sure I can trust someone who uses media as a plural noun.

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gwangung  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:30:53pm

re: #114 Belafon

Ben must have been to young to get the part where Reid apologized.

Republicans, as a rule, do not believe in apology and repentance. It’s anti-Christian, of course, but they’ll never let religion get in the way of what they want.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:31:08pm

re: #115 Skip Intro

Does Ben have anything else to do besides tweeting to people who don’t even know who he is?

Well he is unemployed and being supported by Dr. Shapiro, even though he thinks she should not earn more than 77% of what male doctors make because HURR HURR TIMES OFF FOR TEH BABBIE HAVINGS!!!11!!!!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:31:27pm

re: #111 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Hehehehhe, master debater.

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danarchy  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:32:25pm

re: #115 Skip Intro

Does Ben have anything else to do besides tweeting to people who don’t even know who he is?

Isn’t this what most of twitter is. People nobody knows trying to get their microsecond of fame by being noticed and retweeted by someone people actually do care about?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:32:39pm

THE STAKES HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:32:54pm

re: #103 sagehen

Do you play for the luke warm chili peppers?

HA!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:34:12pm

Vs. Today’s electoral map at PEC.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:34:35pm

WHO amongst us has @fahrenthold open in twitter with baited breath?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:35:51pm

re: #61 GlutenFreeJesus

People are really stupid-but not everybody is stupid at the same time.

This year, however, may be an exception.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:37:20pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

He is now attempting a CYA Operation.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:39:24pm

Someone is desperately looking for attention:

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Franklin  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:39:36pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

WHO amongst us has @fahrenthold open in twitter with baited breath?

I didn’t, but I do now :)

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:42:25pm

Sam is straight up calling out Nate’s narrative as directly running counter to the available facts.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:42:28pm

Milo and Trump on the same night? Not enough drugs/alcohol in the world.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:43:11pm

I did a little Time Lord Generator thing on Tumblr for fun.

I ended up with the best companion ever, and a damn good TARDIS:

Your Type 44 TARDIS is currently stuck in disguise as a Japanese Shinto shrine, and your latest travelling companion is the President of the USA, desperate for a holiday from governmental responsibilities.

I get Barack Obama as a Companion. SWEET!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:43:14pm

re: #129 Franklin

I didn’t, but I do now :)

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He has a new report on Trump’s foundation spending or something else? Link is work firewalled.

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Jenner7  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:44:12pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:44:37pm

re: #128 Dr. Matt

Several students plan to protest as Milo Yiannopoulos, a self-proclaimed leader of the alt-right, comes to USF. tampabay.com
— tbt

See how important I am, I have protesters!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:45:21pm

re: #107 freetoken

Santa Ana conditions here today. Morning heated up quickly, then gusty winds, then strange clouds. Very dry. Very very dry. Red Flag warning over most of SoCal.

It’s currently 97F down at Lindbergh Field, which is right on the bay.

It was expected to get over 100F where I am at, but now with high clouds the temp has gone down a bit.

We just got 0.11 inch of rain here.
Backyard is still kinda crunchy…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:45:44pm

I think it’s Betsy McCaughey. She’s melting down on CNN. Bad choice to have on the panel.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:45:45pm

I’m going to go with “Bitch set me up” as Trump’s excuse of the day.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:46:03pm

re: #133 Sir John Barron

He has a new report on Trump’s foundation spending or something else? Link is work firewalled.

Yup

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:46:07pm

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

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And the ones who want to clutch pearls in horror are doing just that…

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:46:56pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

I think it’s Betsy McCaughey. She’s melting down on CNN. Bad choice to have on the panel.

Yep, it’s her. she’s a freak.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:47:41pm

Oh joy.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:48:46pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

I think it’s Betsy McCaughey. She’s melting down on CNN. Bad choice to have on the panel.

What’s this in reference to?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:49:38pm

re: #142 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh joy.

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Hurr hurr ur picture of Trump supporter is unvalidated! Owned, Libtard!!!!!1

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:51:12pm

CLINTONS lowered the bar on Trump?

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:51:14pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah because Harry Reid has such a history of pandering to white racists. Oh wait except he totally doesn’t. Another Whiplash FAIL.

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The key word there is “intent”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:53:04pm

LOL too bad it’s his own.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:54:59pm

re: #143 Sir John Barron

What’s this in reference to?

The debate. & Donald lying.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:55:22pm
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(alpuz)  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:56:04pm

Donald Trump Jr comes off a lot like Nathan Thurm(Classic Martin Short) in that video.

nbc.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:58:14pm

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

CLINTONS lowered the bar on Trump?

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I read an article, which made sense to me, that the debate won’t really be about Trump because he is already very unpopular and the media constantly cover everything he says, so there isn’t much support for him that can be easily pealed away; Trump is already only polling about 41% in the RCP average. Instead the debate is Clinton’s opportunity to talk about her popular policy proposals, which the media don’t cover, to a wide audience, and hopefully add to her support and strengthen her lead.

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Franklin  Sep 26, 2016 • 12:58:41pm

re: #150 (alpuz)

Donald Trump Jr comes off a lot like Nathan Thurm(Classic Martin Short) in that video.

nbc.com

I get a Wallace Shawn circa “Princess Bride” vibe…

The princess bride - Battle of the wits

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:03:43pm

re: #151 Big Beautiful Door

I read an article, which made sense to me, that the debate won’t really be about Trump because he is already very unpopular and the media constantly cover everything he says, so there isn’t much support for him that can be easily pealed away; Trump is already only polling about 41% in the RCP average. Instead the debate is Clinton’s opportunity to talk about her popular policy proposals, which the media don’t cover, to a wide audience, and hopefully add to her support and strengthen her lead.

She has to convert the Johnson and Stein voters.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:04:53pm

Stalker Stein for President!
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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:05:51pm

re: #93 Dr. Matt

I have never been much of a RHCP fan, but getting ready this morning I was channel surfing [away from anything that was the news] and heard this new song from the group. Great melody. I love the crescendo as the song builds intensity from verse to verse. Really great video. I may purchase my first RHCP song.

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Red Hot Chili Peppers - Brendan’s Death Song

P.S. Why is Will Ferrell playing drums? /

That’s an old song, from ‘I’m With You’ (2011).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:06:07pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Stalker Stein for President!

Oh lookie! She haz fake Secret Service!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:07:22pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:08:27pm

re: #153 sagehen

She has to convert the Johnson and Stein voters.

I expect there will be a lot of convinceable voters in the TV audience finally getting to hear Clinton talk about something other than her emails.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:08:52pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Stalker Stein for President!

Corrupt! The system is rigged!

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:09:43pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

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I got a pic of a guy in Boston using the same pitch.

(I gave him two.)

Got back from LA this morning. I wish I could have stayed longer, but it was a weekend of non-stop action and adventure. Nice city you got there, Angelenos.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:10:14pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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Trump has to talk for 45 minutes; that is going to be very hard for him to do without rambling aimlessly since he has so little knowledge or policy depth.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:10:36pm

re: #158 Big Beautiful Door

I expect there will be a lot of convinceable voters in the TV audience finally getting to hear Clinton talk about something other than her emails.

Debate Q1 for Hillary: Why did you use the private server at State?

Debate Q2 for Hillary: Can you clear up your email scandal?

Debate Q3 for Hillary: What did you tell the FBI about your email practices?

Debate Q4 for Hillary: Why did you delete a bunch of emails?

…..

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:11:07pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Stalker Stein for President!

I actually find Stein more annoying than Trump. NOT more dangerous or obnoxious or horrible or creepy, or racist, or repulsive or vomit-inducing, mind you—just more annoying.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:11:27pm
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Franklin  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:11:43pm

re: #162 Sir John Barron

Debate Q1 for Hillary: Why did you use the private server at State?

Debate Q2 for Hillary: Can you clear up your email scandal?

Debate Q3 for Hillary: What did you tell the FBI about your email practices?

Debate Q4 for Hillary: Why did you delete a bunch of emails?

…..

Debate Q5 for Hillary: When did you stop beating your emails?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:11:45pm

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

I’d like to hear him explain his educated, professional businessman’s understanding of a “Blind Trust.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:13:26pm

re: #166 jaunte

I’d like to hear him explain his educated, professional businessman’s understanding of a “Blind Trust.”

The kids will run it and won’t tell him what’s going on, and he won’t tell them what to do, buhlieve me!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:15:01pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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I’ve come to the conclusion that is exactly what his supporters believe.
They see these “rich” people like Trump who never appear to do any actual work, yet still have all the great toys and vacations and beautiful women and everything that they don’t have, even though they are busting their asses working and seeing nothing for the effort.

And these people still don’t realize that that are nothing more than Babbitts who are just being played big time by Trump who just sneers and laughs at them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:15:32pm

MOAR MAGICAL BALANCE FAIRYING

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:16:26pm

re: #158 Big Beautiful Door

I expect there will be a lot of convinceable voters in the TV audience finally getting to hear Clinton talk about something other than her emails.

Or at least the YouTube audience. Or the Twitter audience.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:16:35pm

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:16:39pm

re: #166 jaunte

I’d like to hear him explain his educated, professional businessman’s understanding of a “Blind Trust.”

Well, the spawn have gone into some detail about how they just wouldn’t talk about anything with dear old dad and Ivanka said her daddy has PROMISED not to ask them and Duh Jr. said it was nothing to worry about and to believe him—none of them having clue fucking one what a blind trust is, other than their definition of how they feel about daddy. Ugh

(I would also like him to be asked that question. However, since fact-checking is so last week, his convoluted definition would probably become the new norm.

I went to the liquor store this morning, but I’m not sure I’m totally prepared for tonight…

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:16:41pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

[So the media are telling us now that the “bar is so low for Trump,” all he has to do is show up and he’ll win? What a load of horse shit.]

They can put it as low as they want, so long as they make Trump limbo under it to qualify for his spot.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:17:44pm

re: #172 BeachDem

He has to be the most internationally conflicted candidate for US President ever.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:18:42pm

re: #172 BeachDem

I think they all know what a blind trust is and they’re just lying outright, hoping the bluff will carry them through.

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Lidane  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:18:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:18:57pm

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

Trump has to talk for 45 minutes; that is going to be very hard for him to do without rambling aimlessly since he has so little knowledge or policy depth.

He’s not going to make it one minute before he starts repeating himself.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:19:03pm

re: #172 BeachDem

Well, the spawn have gone into some detail about how they just wouldn’t talk about anything with dear old dad and Ivanka said her daddy has PROMISED not to ask them and Duh Jr. said it was nothing to worry about and to believe him—none of them having clue fucking one what a blind trust is, other than their definition of how they feel about daddy. Ugh

(I would also like him to be asked that question. However, since fact-checking is so last week, his convoluted definition would probably become the new norm.

I went to the liquor store this morning, but I’m not sure I’m totally prepared for tonight…

Just please, don’t drink yourself to death. Definitely don’t play a drinking game in which you drink everytime Trump lies.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:19:25pm

It’s not like it’s a difficult or mysterious concept.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:20:02pm

They just think their family should be above the rules.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:22:00pm

re: #176 Lidane

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:24:10pm

re: #172 BeachDem

Well, the spawn have gone into some detail about how they just wouldn’t talk about anything with dear old dad and Ivanka said her daddy has PROMISED not to ask them and Duh Jr. said it was nothing to worry about and to believe him—none of them having clue fucking one what a blind trust is, other than their definition of how they feel about daddy. Ugh

Anybody who’s read the Newsweek story knows in detail what a load of crap that is.

He already knows that he owes $400 million to DeutschBank, and the bank is slow-walking their settlement negotiations over how big a fine they have to pay to the US Govt. If he’s elected they get 2 Billion knocked off the fine, he gets forgiven the loan.

He already knows that his partners in developments in Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan and India are in serious legal trouble with the governments of those countries. He stands to gain or lose hundreds of millions of dollars from each one if the govt rules against them, and knows full well that they’ll go easy if the President of the United States makes it a condition of them getting whatever arms deal they’re after.

He already knows that hundreds of millions of dollars of Russian funding for his projects in the US is conditional on Putin not getting irritated and pulling that funding.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:25:38pm

re: #128 Dr. Matt

Someone is desperately looking for attention:

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How much coke is Milo going to snort before he takes the stage?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:25:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:27:13pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:28:44pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Gunman who wounded 9 was wearing Nazi uniform, police say

and was a lone wolf, totally isolated from society and any political movements…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:30:02pm

re: #182 sagehen

Deutsche Bank is for all practical purposes a Dead Man Walking….

Shares of Deutsche Bank got bashed 7.6% today, to €10.49 in Frankfurt, down 67% from April 2015, to the lowest level since they started trading on the Xetra exchange in 1992. They traded below that level in the early 1980s, but decades of inflation have whittled down the purchasing power so much that comparisons are meaningless.

Deutsche Bank’s 5-year default probability spiked to the highest level this year.

Its balance sheet, bloated with opaque risks, equals 58% of Germany’s GDP. It lost €6.8 billion last year. To hang on another day and to prop up Tier 1 capital, it has raised $20 billion in capital, in 2010 and 2014, by selling shares and diluted existing shareholders, and by issuing contingent convertible bonds.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:31:55pm

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat

Black swans a flocking…

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:32:27pm

re: #175 jaunte

I think they all know what a blind trust is and they’re just lying outright, hoping the bluff will carry them through.

Well, the media are certainly playing right along, as Jonathan Chait pointed out (sorry to keep repeating this, but it gets on my last nerve):

Amazingly, Trump has managed to blur the distinction between a blind trust and the opposite of a blind trust so thoroughly that the media is now repeating his own terms. “The Republican nominee has previously indicated,” reports Politico, “that he would place the businesses in a blind trust run by his children and executives.” Again, a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

nymag.com

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:33:35pm

re: #189 BeachDem

This is nuts. Why can’t any of them just tell him to his face “that’s not a blind trust, which is what the job requires.”

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:34:00pm

re: #188 freetoken

Black swans a flocking…

No shit!

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:34:46pm

re: #178 Big Beautiful Door

Just please, don’t drink yourself to death. Definitely don’t play a drinking game in which you drink everytime Trump lies.

I won’t, I promise. I posted the Raw Story warning earlier as a psa.littlegreenfootballs.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:36:26pm

re: #189 BeachDem

Well, the media are certainly playing right along, as Jonathan Chait pointed out (sorry to keep repeating this, but it gets on my last nerve):

Amazingly, Trump has managed to blur the distinction between a blind trust and the opposite of a blind trust so thoroughly that the media is now repeating his own terms. “The Republican nominee has previously indicated,” reports Politico, “that he would place the businesses in a blind trust run by his children and executives.” Again, a “blind trust run by his children and executives” is not a thing.

He is counting on people who do not care about his tax returns not to care about any potential conflicts of interest. After all, he is his own man and beholden to nobody.

He is the Voice of the Little Man and the Maverick who will shake up Washington, straighten it out and make it fly right.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:36:52pm

re: #171 Jebediah, RBG

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:37:09pm

re: #182 sagehen

Anybody who’s read the Newsweek story knows in detail what a load of crap that is.

He already knows that he owes $400 million to DeutschBank, and the bank is slow-walking their settlement negotiations over how big a fine they have to pay to the US Govt. If he’s elected they get 2 Billion knocked off the fine, he gets forgiven the loan.

He already knows that his partners in developments in Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan and India are in serious legal trouble with the governments of those countries. He stands to gain or lose hundreds of millions of dollars from each one if the govt rules against them, and knows full well that they’ll go easy if the President of the United States makes it a condition of them getting whatever arms deal they’re after.

He already knows that hundreds of millions of dollars of Russian funding for his projects in the US is conditional on Putin not getting irritated and pulling that funding.

Well sure, when you put it THAT way—but the spawn PROMISED it will all be okay and they will never ever talk to daddy about business—pinkie swear.

Spit.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:38:15pm

I know there are a lot of people who have gravitated to the counter-memes of how life has improved so much under Obama, but like all these easy internet memes the assertions fall upon closer inspection.

We live in such a complex society, with our economic activity intricately linked across the globe.

The DeutscheBank problem is just the tip of an iceberg to a global financial problem that exists and which was not cured by the 2008 near-depression following the 2007 blow-off.

There are simply too many poorly reckoned debts out there. The paper electronic economy is, I fear, not been structurally redesigned as called for by the 2007/2008 collapse.

So much that is labeled “investment” is really speculation.

As in gambling.

And Drumpfskind illustrates (besides all the other ugliness) that so much of what is thought of as “wealth” is really bluffing and lying.

Some substantial portion of our citizenry do not understand our American economy. They hold false beliefs about money, about governance, and how they even survive.

It’s a recipe for disaster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:38:49pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:39:29pm

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and was a lone wolf, totally isolated from society and any political movements…

He was just a re-enactor!1!!

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:42:02pm

re: #196 freetoken

Some substantial portion of our citizenry do not understand our American economy. They hold false beliefs about money, about governance, and how they even survive.

END THE FED! —that’s all you need to know.

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:45:00pm

re: #190 jaunte

This is nuts. Why can’t any of them just tell him to his face “that’s not a blind trust, which is what the job requires.”

When Steph tried, here was the exchange:
Stephanopoulos responded, “A blind trust, it’s not a blind trust if it’s being run by his children.”
Once again, Trump Jr. disputed the characterization. …
“We’re not going to discuss those things. We’re just not—it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

Not sure if Georgie came back with anything—no further quotes in any of the articles I read. Probably had to “let it lie” and move on to more important topics like how many times did Hillary cough.

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Tigger2  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:45:33pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Stalker Stein for President!

I tried to tweet at her pic, I’m blocked. lol

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451_Montag  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:45:39pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would just like Hillary to come and flat say that Trump is scared to release his tax returns. Just say it and let him go off on one. Would be a delight.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:46:09pm

re: #200 BeachDem

“We’re not going to discuss those things. We’re just not—it doesn’t matter. Trust me.”

George S.: “Do you even know what a blind trust is? I thought you went to business school?”

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:46:23pm

re: #151 Big Beautiful Door

I read an article, which made sense to me, that the debate won’t really be about Trump because he is already very unpopular and the media constantly cover everything he says, so there isn’t much support for him that can be easily pealed away; Trump is already only polling about 41% in the RCP average. Instead the debate is Clinton’s opportunity to talk about her popular policy proposals, which the media don’t cover, to a wide audience, and hopefully add to her support and strengthen her lead.

That is a good point. She will be in front of people that most likely do not watch her much because they pre-hate her based on their politics and those that don’t follow along all that closely and might not like her based on what others tell them about their own Hillary hate. A chance to change some minds…if there are any minds that can be changed left.

Sell ‘em Hillary. Ignore the Orange Oaf in the room, just go around and over him.

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:49:32pm

re: #203 jaunte

George S.: “Do you even know what a blind trust is? I thought you went to business school?”

Yeah—what are you a COMMIE? It’s not the media’s job to provide facts—just ask Chuck Todd.

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makeitstop  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:52:22pm

Concentrated awesomeness: formal goat portraits

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Tigger2  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:54:14pm

re: #201 Tigger2

I tried to tweet at her pic, I’m blocked. lol

I guess she didn’t like me calling her the Sarah Palin of the left earlier. hehe

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:54:31pm

re: #202 451_Montag

I would just like Hillary to come and flat say that Trump is scared to release his tax returns. Just say it and let him go off on one. Would be a delight.

It would be even better if Clinton were to discuss her plan to raise taxes on the rich and slip in something like this: “I don’t understand why my opponent objects to these plans, since there’s no evidence that they will increase his taxes.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2016 • 1:54:54pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

That is a good point. She will be in front of people that most likely do not watch her much because they pre-hate her based on their politics and those that don’t follow along all that closely and might not like her based on what others tell them about their own Hillary hate. A chance to change some minds…if there are any minds that can be changed left.

Sell ‘em Hillary. Ignore the Orange Oaf in the room, just go around and over him.

Remember the media who decided it was better to show an empty podium awaiting DT than a speech Hillary was giving to an organization for the handicapped?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 26, 2016 • 2:03:05pm

re: #208 EPR-radar

It would be even better if Clinton were to discuss her plan to raise taxes on the rich and slip in something like this: “I don’t understand why my opponent objects to these plans, since there’s no evidence that they will increase his taxes.”

Our media is too dense to pick up on such things.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2016 • 2:15:19pm

re: #155 makeitstop

That’s an old song, from ‘I’m With You’ (2011).

Hey you kids, get off my lawn!

Damn. I have never heard that song. I must live under a rock.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 26, 2016 • 2:24:25pm

re: #206 makeitstop

You’re not kidding!
I wish I had spare money, I’d buy some of those.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 26, 2016 • 2:36:11pm

re: #53 Dr. Matt

Looking at the bottom pic I thought, “Pedal to the metal.”


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