Breaking: The New York Times Finds Two More Women Who Say Donald Trump Kissed and Groped Them Without Consent

“I wanted to punch the screen”
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The floodgates are now opening. As Donald Trump publicly declares that his admission of sexual assault was just “locker room talk” that he never acted upon, women he did molest are seeing him lie to the entire nation and it’s making them angry.

Donald J. Trump was emphatic in the second presidential debate: Yes, he had boasted about kissing women without permission and grabbing their genitals. But he had never actually done those things, he said. “No,” he declared under questioning on Sunday evening, “I have not.”

At that moment, sitting at home in Manhattan, Jessica Leeds, 74, felt he was lying to her face. “I wanted to punch the screen,” she said in an interview in her apartment.

More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling businesswoman at a paper company, Ms. Leeds said, she sat beside Mr. Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before.

About 45 minutes after takeoff, she recalled, Mr. Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her.

According to Ms. Leeds, Mr. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt.

Ms. Leeds wasn’t the only woman who watched Trump’s dishonest evasions on Sunday night:

Mr. Trump’s claim that his crude words had never turned into actions was similarly infuriating to a woman watching on Sunday night in Ohio: Rachel Crooks.

Ms. Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she encountered Mr. Trump outside an elevator in the building one morning in 2005.

Aware that her company did business with Mr. Trump, she turned and introduced herself. They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Instead, he began kissing her cheeks. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

Read the whole thing. You know there have to be many more women out there who’ve been assaulted by this egomaniacal monster.

UPDATE at 10/12/16 4:57:33 pm by Charles Johnson

And here we go, folks. Now the Palm Beach Post is reporting on another woman who says Trump groped her without consent at Mar-a-Lago 13 years ago: Donald Trump: Woman says candidate groped her.

Donald Trump was asked during the presidential debate about when he bragged that he kissed women without their consent and grabbed their genitals – remarks captured on audio that surfaced last week.

Trump apologized for the remarks and dismissed them as “locker room talk.” But the debate moderator, CNN’s Anderson Cooper, asked Trump to clarify: “Have you ever done those things?”

“No, I have not,’’ Trump replied.

Watching at home in Palm Springs, Fla., McGillivray said she rose from her couch and yelled at the TV screen: “‘You liar!’’’

McGillivray, 36, said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago 13 years ago. She said she never reported it to authorities.

But her companion that day, photographer Ken Davidoff, vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, ‘’Donald just grabbed my ass!’’

UPDATE at 10/12/16 5:26:59 pm by Charles Johnson

It’s just snowballing. We can add creepy hints of pedophilia to the mix now:

As Republican nominee Donald Trump’s campaign still works to move past a recently released 2005 tape of his lewd remarks about women, more and more footage of similar comments made by Trump is surfacing.

In an “Entertainment Tonight” Christmas feature in 1992, Trump looked at a group of young girls and said he would be dating one of them in ten years. At the time, Trump would have been 46 years old.

The video, released Wednesday evening, was shot at Trump Tower.

In the clip, Trump asks one of the girls if she’s “going up the escalator.” When the girl replies, “yeah,” Trump turns to the camera and says: “I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”

UPDATE at 10/12/16 5:48:31 pm by Charles Johnson

And another bombshell drops. Miss Washington 2013 says Donald Trump groped her:

According to Yahoo! News, Cassandra Searles made a Facebook post about her time on the Miss USA pageant, where she calls Trump a “misogynist” who “treated us like cattle.”

The full Facebook post says:

“Do y’all remember that one time we had to do our onstage introductions, but this one guy treated us like cattle and made us do it again because we didn’t look him in the eyes? Do you also remember when he then proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property? Oh I forgot to mention that guy will be in the running to become the next President of the United States. I love the idea of having a misogynist as the President. #‎HeWillProbablySueMe ‬‪#‎iHaveWorseStoriesSoComeAtMeBro‬ ‪#‎Drumpf‬.

According to Rolling Stone, Searles added in a comment on her initial post’s thread, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

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410 comments

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Danack  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:28:28pm

Prediction 1: more women will come forward with stories about Trump like these.

Prediction 2: some women will come forward with stories about Trump worse than these.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:28:52pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:29:17pm

From below.

This Trump campaign is the vilest thing I’ve ever seen in my life.

It’s 20 years of talk radio/Fox “News” condensed into 18 months, and I don’t think the 9/11 attacks damaged this country 10% of what Trump and GOP have done this year.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:30:36pm

I hope these women have solid support networks, because they’re about to be hit with the worst shitstorm of their lives and much of it will be led by Trump women.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:31:21pm

At this rate I’ll be really surprised if he gets more than 270 delegates.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:31:24pm

Trump’s Cosby moment.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:31:56pm

re: #5 darthstar

At this rate I’ll be really surprised if he gets more than 270 delegates.

270 lawsuits and accusers? No problem. Delegates? Not so easy.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:32:43pm

From the point of view of credibility, the claims are well-supported, given how many friends they told at the time (just like Broaddrick, btw).

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S'latch  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:33:15pm

This is only a surprise if you tend to forget that almost everything Trump says is a lie. So when he said it was just talk, not action, well … of course it wasn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:33:32pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:33:48pm

re: #7 darthstar

I agree. Lawsuits yes. Delegates no.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:35:01pm

re: #6 Nyet

This clinches it. All of the GOP congesswomen who jumped the Trump Train will be crawling back on board to keep from being assaulted by Trump supporters.

The poor MBF is going to need new wings by this weekend as the cable news people bat it around like a badminton shuttlecock.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:35:36pm

re: #9 S’latch

This is only a surprise if you tend to forget that almost everything Trump says is a lie. So when he said it was just talk, not action, well … of course it wasn’t.

That’s better.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:36:24pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seems to me Steve that your candidate is more like Bill Cosby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:37:02pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:37:22pm

Trump’s next rally should be a doozie. I wonder if he’ll call them out by name.

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fern01  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:37:29pm

Trump complains the media is not talking about the emails - Matthews spending 20 minutes talking about emails.

It is literally ALL THEY HAVE - private emails stolen by the Russians - leaked by wikileaks to harm Hillary Clinton This is WHY pollsters are told people don’t trust Hillary Clinton - - because of Russian interference in the US elections. He wouldn’t even get 27% of the vote without his Russian friends

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:37:34pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bad news for the country. More of Bannon’s “burn the country to the ground” strategy.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:37:55pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Translation: Every word of the NYT story is true.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:38:40pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

But a presser with the Clinton accusers is aaaaalriiiight.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:39:01pm

The main point is Trump bragged about it.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:39:28pm

re: #12 Skip Intro

This clinches it. All of the GOP congesswomen who jumped the Trump Train will be crawling back on board to keep from being assaulted by Trump supporters.

The poor MBF is going to need new wings by this weekend as the cable news people bat it around like a badminton shuttlecock.

Yup. Senator Deb Fischer (R-NE) was interviewed on the radio here today going through pretzel-logic claiming she never disavowed Mr. Trump and absolutely supports the GOP candidate.

As a liberal, I could not get past the call screener to call out her hypocrisy and party-before-country attitude. (Deb Fischer’s office knows who I am, and has my on her blacklist of people she will not respond to.)

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:39:38pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

The main point is Trump bragged about it.

He doesn’t often tell the truth.

He sure did this time.

Ugh.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:40:09pm

New one

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:40:37pm

hahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!

Kellyanne retweets a fake news site (note the site address link)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:41:02pm

Welp, like the Media Matters player, the New York Times embedded video player also doesn’t like being moved to the bottom right corner, so I’m disabling that one too.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:07pm
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fern01  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:07pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“This is nothing more than a political attack” - Running for President is a political event - someone explain this to the Trump campaign.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:10pm

re: #17 fern01

Trump complains the media is not talking about the emails - Matthews spending 20 minutes talking about emails.

It is literally ALL THEY HAVE - private emails stolen by the Russians - leaked by wikileaks to harm Hillary Clinton This is WHY pollsters are told people don’t trust Hillary Clinton - - because of Russian interference in the US elections. He wouldn’t even get 27% of the vote without his Russian friends

A big percentage of his supporters are Christian Taliban who want government to control pregnancy. They think Trump will put nutjobs on the Supreme could, and put abortion back underground (or at the doctor for the privileged) where they want it. To them, that is worth voting for a monster.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:18pm

None of this is important. What America wants is dirt from Hillary and her campaign staff emails. That is what is important. That is what sells.

Trump bullying business practices, his Neanderthal-like hitting women, dragging them home and groping them, his refusal to let people know his financials because he possibly has a whole lot to hide…mean nothing to our media and Trump supporters.

But boy, those Hillary emails sure are something!

Put her in jail.

Let the pig roam!

(Fucking media makes me sick…can you tell?)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:19pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

New one

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Wow they keep on coming.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:22pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

New one

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But he was just a kid. Cut him some slack.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:41pm

re: #23 Nyet

He doesn’t often tell the truth.

He sure did this time.

Ugh.

This was the reason Trump was scared to deny he’d groped women in the second debate.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:42:44pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

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That’s not a snowball. This is a blizzard. What a fucking creep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:44:05pm

Great job GOP. But tell us again how the Obamas are classless.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:44:23pm

Things that make me want to vomit.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:45:34pm
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Danack  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:45:41pm

Another:
palmbeachpost.com

McGillivray, 36, said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago 13 years ago. She said she never reported it to authorities.

But her companion that day, photographer Ken Davidoff, vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, ”Donald just grabbed my ass!”

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:46:02pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:47:36pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

Oh, so now you care about them.


The deplorables are flooding CBS right now.
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Varek Raith  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:48:26pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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Herpaderp!

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:48:39pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Trump surrounds himself with the stupidest people.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:49:24pm
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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:49:45pm

Sexual Predator/Man who defends him 2016

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:51:16pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:51:22pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

Oh, so now you care about them.

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The deplorables are flooding CBS right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:52:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:52:50pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

Oh, so now you care about them.

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The deplorables are flooding CBS right now.

Can’t handle the truth about how they support a truly horrible human being.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:53:01pm
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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:53:55pm

re: #30 ObserverArt

Emails are boring.

Sex sells.

Say thanks ;)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:54:31pm

The Palm Beach Post has another woman who says Trump groped her: Donald Trump: Woman says candidate groped her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:55:24pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:55:40pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

Trump surrounds himself with the stupidest people.

The best stupidest people. The very best.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:56:31pm

re: #38 Danack

fuuuuck

What’s the rate, 1 per 10 minutes?

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Varek Raith  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:56:41pm

re: #53 Frankie Five Angels

The best stupidest people. The very best.

The Bestiest.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:56:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:56:51pm

re: #54 Nyet

fuuuuck

What’s the rate, 1 per 10 minutes?

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:57:57pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 4:59:39pm

re: #56 Kragar

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Not even the women I don’t like.
Excellent Tweet. I’m going to start asking people that.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:00:27pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:00:43pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:01:03pm

re: #59 No Country For Old Haters

No point. Their reply: Would you allow the same if it were Bill Clinton?

It’s all they got. But I’m sure they’ll keep making up more bullshit.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:01:06pm

My other senator (Ben Sasse) who disavowed Mr. Trump back in February, is still not much sharper than Deb Fischer.

Hey, Mr. Sasse, think about the kinds of jobs that didn’t exist in 1950 but do today:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:01:14pm
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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:01:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:02:06pm

re: #63 Anymouse

My other senator (Ben Sasse) who disavowed Mr. Trump back in February, is still not much sharper than Deb Fischer.

Hey, Mr. Sasse, think about the kinds of jobs that didn’t exist in 1950 but do today:

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State Legislatures - the Lavatory of Democracy!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:02:23pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Kelly Anne has deleted that tweet

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:02:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:02:48pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh cry me a river Mr. I worshipped Ayn Rand until it was politically inconvenient.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:03:06pm

re: #67 Dave In Austin

Has trump Jr. yet? I can’t bring myself to look.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:03:26pm

re: #68 Kragar

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Thanks Jerry, we always knew your morality play was a fraud.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:03pm

re: #68 Kragar

Wow Jerry Falwell on CNN: We shouldn’t get “bogged down” on whether a candidate for president is a “good person.”

Let’s not bicker and argue about ‘oo killed ‘oo! This is supposed to be a happy occasion!

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:11pm

re: #54 Nyet

fuuuuck

What’s the rate, 1 per 10 minutes?

He’s been abusing women for half a century. A story could come out every 10 minutes until the election.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:12pm
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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:22pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Thanks Jerry, we always knew your morality play was a fraud.

Evangelicals doing their best to drive more of the faithful to atheism.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:28pm

OT Brain Bleach

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:30pm

I hope everybody had enough ice cream for Yom Kippur this year. Having grown up Lapsed Catholic I assume that’s how it works. Lots and lots of ice cream, right?

(I;^)>

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:05:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:06:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:06:21pm

re: #78 Kragar

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It’s not at all clear it would have lost him the nomination anyway.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:06:25pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally out of context. The guy called the gender relations backwards, not the whole church, and it’s true.

wikileaks.org

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:07:01pm

re: #81 Nyet

Totally out of context. The guy called the gender relations backwards, not the whole church, and it’s true.

wikileaks.org

Yep.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:07:04pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Used that same line myself earlier

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:07:21pm

re: #75 Anymouse

Evangelicals doing their best to drive more of the faithful to atheism.

For sure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:08:24pm

re: #75 Anymouse

Evangelicals doing their best to drive more of the faithful to atheism.

I’m already there, and I prefer to drive myself.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:08:42pm

re: #78 Kragar

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They were too busy trying to outwingnut each other.

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Frankie Five Angels  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:09:18pm

Another Trump moron Delgado is on MSNBC making things much worse. You can hear his guests laughing hysterically.

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fern01  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:09:38pm

Trump campaign given up on attacking Hillary - they are now running against Bill Clinton & the GOP - looks like a winning strategy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:09:39pm

re: #81 Nyet

Totally out of context. The guy called the gender relations backwards, not the whole church, and it’s true.

wikileaks.org

Indeed.
OTOH, this is one of today’s big talking points from the Trump campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:10:21pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed.
OTOH, this is one of today’s big talking points from the Trump campaign.

Which is pretty funny given that their own candidate attacked the Pope. Pathetic.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:10:58pm

“It’s just numbers, folks. Just numbers.”

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:11:18pm

re: #87 Frankie Five Angels

Another Trump moron Delgado is on MSNBC making things much worse. You can hear his guests laughing hysterically.

Laughing at these people is the best thing you can do. They want to argue, and pretend to be right by virtue of being louder. Laughter just cuts right through that.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:11:51pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, he is correct on that.

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Varek Raith  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:12:17pm

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:12:49pm

Where were these fair weather friends when Mitt needed them?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:13:32pm

re: #94 Varek Raith

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I’m starting to think he could seriously bring Comstock down with him.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:14:25pm

Off-topic: I am off to Cheyenne tomorrow to have the stitches taken out of my left elbow. Yay.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:14:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:15:07pm

re: #98 Kragar

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And if Hillary does win among men, they’ll want to return it to only white guys and white landowners.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:15:23pm
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Jay C  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:15:42pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed.
OTOH, this is one of today’s big talking points from the Trump campaign.

Unsurprising: ginning up carload-lots of self-pitying butthurt among the Jump-For-Jesus crowd is probably one of The Donald’s few trump cards (pun intended) he and his tools have left to play. But I’m wondering how effective this approach (Hillary as Spanish-Civil-War-level “foe of religion”) is really going to be outside of the usual RW bubble.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:16:26pm

AJ Delgado answers Chris Hayes statement “But Bill Clinton is not running for President” with “But he will be in the White House.”

And she is really pissed that the New York Times is trivializing sexual assault like this!

I guess hinting Bill Clinton in the White House again is not saying anything trivial about a woman being the president. The little woman will be under the control of Bill, he is like that you know…you just can’t trust him and after all, she has stuck with him, so she is weak.

Wink wink.

How do these people sleep at night? Sure, I know it is a job and it pays well and all of this is just a part of it. But it has to go to the soul…to be that dishonest, to push a slimeball as a president…for money.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:16:33pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:17:50pm

Reporter is female

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:18:08pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

AJ Delgado answers Chris Hayes statement “But Bill Clinton is not running for President” with “But he will be in the White House.”

And she is really pissed that the New York Times is trivializing sexual assault like this!

I guess hinting Bill Clinton in the White House again is not saying anything trivial about a woman being the president. The little woman will be under the control of Bill, he is like that you know…you just can’t trust him and after all, she has stuck with him, so she is weak.

Wink wink.

How do these people sleep at night? Sure, I know it is a job and it pays well and all of this is just a part of it. But it has to go to the soul…to be that dishonest, to push a slimeball as a president…for money.

They’ll make any excuse for Trump. It’s fucking pathetic.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:18:54pm

After reading this, I’m not sure if I want to know why #Marmite is trending

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:18:59pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Reporter is female

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Of course. Disgusting, Donald, I think you do not know what that word means.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:19:24pm

Nicole is now a Cat3 hurricane, heading to Bermuda.
I have several friends who live there, so I can worry some more. ;

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:19:42pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

AJ Delgado answers Chris Hayes statement “But Bill Clinton is not running for President” with “But he will be in the White House.”

And she is really pissed that the New York Times is trivializing sexual assault like this!

I guess hinting Bill Clinton in the White House again is not saying anything trivial about a woman being the president. The little woman will be under the control of Bill, he is like that you know…you just can’t trust him and after all, she has stuck with him, so she is weak.

Wink wink.

How do these people sleep at night? Sure, I know it is a job and it pays well and all of this is just a part of it. But it has to go to the soul…to be that dishonest, to push a slimeball as a president…for money.

“But he’ll be in the White House”? Seriously?

Tell you what - go ask Newt Gingrich how well this shit worked for him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:19:46pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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I hope he takes a lot of the GOP out with him. They enabled him and created him. They deserve to crash with him.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:20:46pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:20:58pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Trump basically dared the media to find evidence that he’d ever sexually assaulted women. Last presidential candidate dumb enough to dare the media to do something like that was Gary Hart. The media obliged.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:21:13pm
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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:21:19pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Speaking of Newt, he’s been awfully silent lately. My guess is he’s waiting anxiously by the phone for that call from his agent about getting a part in the new Roger Moore James Bond movie.

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Danack  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:21:29pm

re: #106 De Kolta Chair

After reading this, I’m not sure if I want to know why #Marmite is trending

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In the UK, the manufacturer of Marmite and Pot Noodles wants to raise the price for those two “food” items, after the pound dropped recently. One of the supermarkets doesn’t want to either absorb that increased price, or pass it on to the consumer, so there is a marmite and Pot Noodle shortage while they refused to pay the increased price.

However will I survive.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:22:20pm

re: #114 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of Newt, he’s been awfully silent lately. My guess is he’s waiting by the phone hoping for that phone call from his agent about getting a part in the new Roger Moore James Bond movie.

After saying Trump needed to start taking shit seriously, I believe he was wished into The Cornfield.

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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:22:42pm

Well……….he was technically right…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:23:03pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

That’s 4.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:23:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:23:56pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Shit. Had to edit it. Reload.

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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:25:42pm

GOP is not an important institution. It’s a sinking ship infested with protofascists, racists, misogynists, you name it.

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Danack  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:26:12pm

An interesting article from an interview with Trump’s biographers: politico.com

I think we’ve got a very good preview of what the next several weeks will be like in the debate last night. I thought when he literally prowled the platform or the stage last night, we got a picture of what it’s like in his bedroom while he’s tweeting at 3 a.m. He was barking in the ugliest fashion, saying the ugliest things. And from the moment he got out there, he played the role of a victim. He now considers himself a victim of the national media, primarily, and a bit of the Republican establishment that abandoned him overnight, and I think he’s a very dangerous man for the next three or four weeks.

We have seen what kind of polarization he can evoke over the course of 15 or 16 months, but I’m afraid that he’s going to attempt to deepen that in profound ways in the coming weeks. As recently as the convention, he tried to cool down those who said “lock her up,” and now he’s saying he would lock her up and even describing the way in which he would do it.

So I think that what is really dangerous is, over the course of the next few weeks, he’s going to push every button he can, and the primary button that he can push is racism. That’s been the undercurrent of the campaign throughout. Believe it or not, you can be more explicit about it than he has been so far, and he may well go down that path. And it’s a very dangerous time because he has still a substantial number of Americans who support him, and where he takes them is really quite threatening.

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petesh  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:26:38pm

Hellooooo, Utah! So great to be here in the Beehive state!
—HRC, in the next few days

Handy for Arizona and Nevada, too. After that, I hear Georgia’s nice this time of year …

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:27:44pm

re: #121 Nyet

GOP is not an important institution. It’s a sinking ship infested with protofascists, racists, misogynists, you name it.

It’s a deplorable party even without Trump.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:27:45pm

Donald Trump talks shit about the Pope: yawn.

John Podesta—who is, notably, not Hillary Clinton—talks shit about gender roles in the Catholic Church: pitchforks and torches come out.

*This* horseshit is why I keep saying that there’s no there there.

It doesn’t matter what words are being said, the only consistent meaning is “we are the good guys, regardless of what we actually do”—which is narcissism, not an ideology.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:28:35pm

re: #75 Anymouse

Evangelicals doing their best to drive more of the faithful to atheism.

The Religious Right is in full self-destruction mode. And it’s glorious to see these phony Ayn Rand worshippers getting their comeuppance!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:28:38pm

I can’t watch CNN. Trump’s excuse makers make me sick.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:29:53pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

Things that make me want to vomit.

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Holy shit. I just looked up Conway’s bio and she’s 8 years younger than me. She looks at least 10 years older than I do.

All that lying is not good for a persons health.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:30:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:31:07pm

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

Trump adviser on @chrislhayes says that women who don’t immediately report sexual assault are not credible.

Can we quote you?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:31:18pm

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

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Showing their true ugly colors right there. Wow.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:31:53pm

So nice to see the Trump campaign self destruct!

Atom Bomb Joe Bonica’s Movie Of The Month

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:31:58pm

Sportspuck is back. Hooray for distractions?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:32:10pm

Any idea of which of the Republican leaders is behind all these new revelations?

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:33:06pm

re: #115 Danack

However will I survive.

Thanks for the info. Is Pot Noodles any relation to Pepper Potts?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:33:29pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Any idea of which of the Republican leaders is behind all these new revelations?

Yeah. Trump. He dared the media. He double-dared them. Then he double-dog-dared them.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:34:24pm

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Trump. He dared the media. He double-dared them. Then he double-dog-dared them.

Got to admire his fresh approach to politics.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:34:54pm

re: #133 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sportspuck is back. Hooray for distractions?

Only watch sportspuck during Olympics, where they actually play sportspuck throughout, without WWE wrestling breaks

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:36:33pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Got to admire his fresh approach to politics.

Do I?

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Danack  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:37:06pm

re: #135 De Kolta Chair

Thanks for the info. Is Pot Noodles any relation to Pepper Potts?

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No - they are a ‘food’ substance produced in factories. However they do produce amusing ads sometimes:

Pot Noodle | You Can Make It | TV Advert

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:37:55pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

Do I?

The novelty value alone of the Trump brand of politics is worth something.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:37:59pm

Pence apparently is fully onboard the banana republic train:

Pence: ‘We will appoint a special prosecutor’ to probe Clinton, family foundation

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:39:00pm

re: #142 freetoken

Pence apparently is fully onboard the banana republic train:

Pence: ‘We will appoint a special prosecutor’ to probe Clinton, family foundation

Fuck Pence.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:40:17pm

re: #67 Dave In Austin

Kelly Anne has deleted that tweet

TOO LATE!

BWAHAAAAHAAAA.

Has Eric the Dumb deleted his too?

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:40:40pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Got to admire his fresh approach to politics.

Emphasis on “fresh”

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:41:11pm

We need a new phrase for this kind of stuff:

Daugaard: Trump should drop out, but if he doesn’t I’ll vote for him

A new nominee is the key to defeating Hillary Clinton in November, Gov. Dennis Daugaard said Wednesday, but if none emerges he’ll vote for Donald Trump on election day.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:41:40pm

re: #142 freetoken

Pence apparently is fully onboard the banana republic train:

Pence: ‘We will appoint a special prosecutor’ to probe Clinton, family foundation

I don’t know why we keep getting confused about whether or not they’re joking.

///

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:41:56pm

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:42:01pm

re: #121 Nyet

GOP is not an important institution. It’s a sinking ship infested with protofascists, racists, misogynists, you name it.

Cesspit of Satan is my preferred shorthand for the GOP.

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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:42:03pm

re: #142 freetoken

Pence apparently is fully onboard the banana republic train:

Pence: ‘We will appoint a special prosecutor’ to probe Clinton, family foundation

Pence has no way out of the bunker, might as well go out in style!

//

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:42:20pm

re: #146 freetoken

We need a new phrase for this kind of stuff:

Daugaard: Trump should drop out, but if he doesn’t I’ll vote for him

What a fucking spineless wimp. Drop out Trump but if you don’t I’ll vote for you anyhow!

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:42:26pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:42:29pm

re: #81 Nyet

Totally out of context. The guy called the gender relations backwards, not the whole church, and it’s true.

wikileaks.org

They’re desperate, especially Ryan. He so wants to be locker room friends with Trump again.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:43:26pm

re: #142 freetoken

Pence apparently is fully onboard the banana republic train:

Pence: ‘We will appoint a special prosecutor’ to probe Clinton, family foundation

“When the battle is going badly, put out more flags.”
—supposed ancient Chinese military guidance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:44:15pm

my irony meter is permanently borked now:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:44:20pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart

Only watch sportspuck during Olympics, where they actually play sportspuck throughout, without WWE wrestling breaks

To each their own, but you’re missing some pretty awesome sportspuck and I haven’t seen any wrestling yet.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:45:12pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

my irony meter is permanently borked now:

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So, Bill, when is Sean resigning?

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:45:38pm

re: #114 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of Newt, he’s been awfully silent lately. My guess is he’s waiting anxiously by the phone for that call from his agent about getting a part in the new Roger Moore James Bond movie.

He’s pissed off at Trump because he didn’t invite Newt to any of his groping parties.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:45:49pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:45:57pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:46:16pm

NPR now stuck in permanent MBF mode:

Among Black Voters In Charlotte, The Election Presents A Difficult Decision

It’s fair to say that both of the candidates have used language in this election season and in the past that has upset black voters. On Oct. 20, early voting will begin at 10 sites in Mecklenburg County, N.C. That will be the first test of who is showing up at the polls.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:46:25pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Any journalist colluding with a political campaign should resign immediately, or be forced to resign. Period.”

He’s trying to get Hannity fired?

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:46:31pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:46:43pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

my irony meter is permanently borked now:

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:47:05pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

my irony meter is permanently borked now:

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I pitched my irony meter ages ago. Useless thing redlined on every single RWNJ statement I ever encountered.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:47:28pm

re: #160 gocart mozart

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They chose to do this to themselves. I can’t feign any sympathy for the GOP because they chose to create a base based on lies and bigotry.

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thecommodore  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:47:52pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

They’ll make any excuse for Trump. It’s fucking pathetic.

Trump could actually shoot someone dead on 5th Avenue, and after he was widely condemned for it, Trump supporters would say, “what about Vince Foster, mmmmmm?”

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:47:56pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

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Youth is wasted on those too young to remember what a total dickweed Roger Stone is, especially “journalists.”

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:48:21pm

re: #128 MsJ

Holy shit. I just looked up Conway’s bio and she’s 8 years younger than me. She looks at least 10 years older than I do.

All that lying is not good for a persons health.

Calling that kid MiniTrump is what set off my gag reflex. That’s child abuse.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:48:45pm

re: #169 Skip Intro

Calling that kid MiniTrump is what set off my gag reflex. That’s child abuse.

Kid didn’t look happy. I don’t blame him.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:49:08pm

re: #161 freetoken

That’s really offensive of NPR to assume black people are such idiots.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:49:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:49:51pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:50:52pm

If you’d like to hear from all the people you’ve pissed off in your life, running for President is a good strategy.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:51:14pm
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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:51:19pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nicole is now a Cat3 hurricane, heading to Bermuda.
I have several friends who live there, so I can worry some more. ;

I also have many friends there—plus it’s my very favorite place. Such a tiny island(s)—17 miles from one end to the other—not many places to hide. Thinking good thoughts.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:51:49pm

re: #164 No Country For Old Haters

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“Any journalist colluding with an autocratic foreign government, feel free to party harty!”

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:52:03pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Miss Washington 2013 is an allegation of recent groping.

That’s going to spike the wheels of all those apologists nattering on about this all being decades old.

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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:52:04pm
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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:52:37pm
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Nyet  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:53:45pm

re: #179 b.d.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:53:46pm

re: #98 Kragar

That’s a new one. In law school I heard someone at a Federalist Society event argue for repealing the 17th Amendment (popular election of Senators), but actually trying to repeal women’s suffrage? Damn

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:54:22pm
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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:54:25pm

A break from the madness

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:54:48pm

Ugh. Glenn Greenwald smirking on the Chris Hayes show. Fuck this guy. [click]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:55:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:55:34pm

These stories are all breaking just as the Trump Campaign were preparing their final primal scream, marching out more women who claim Bill Clinton assaulted them.

Two things - not to minimize their stories, which we have all sorts of reasons to believe, but again, Bill isn’t running for anything.

Second, do they not realize that they’re now playing “I know you are but what am I?”, and reporters will correctly say, “That’s all very well, and we’re sorry for what these women went through, but ALL THESE WOMEN over here say you did to them exactly what you bragged about to Billy Bush, and what you denied you ever did. If we are to accept the stories of these women YOU brought forward, shouldn’t we ALSO accept the stories from THESE women who came forward?”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:55:37pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:56:29pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“He promised to ban abortion! So what if he’s a whoremongering sinner? I’m in it for Baby Jesus!”

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:56:34pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

A break from the madness

Love the wall hangings framing Bob’s boob tube.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:56:51pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

What is the simpering piece of shit smirking about.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:56:52pm

re: #165 EPR-radar

I pitched my irony meter ages ago. Useless thing redlined on every single RWNJ statement I ever encountered.

I get a case every month from Amazon on their Subscribe and Save program. Going to see if they carry an industrial strength model.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:57:10pm

re: #167 thecommodore

I honestly believe that’s coming.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:57:55pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:58:19pm

re: #182 KGxvi

That’s a new one. In law school I heard someone at a Federalist Society event argue for repealing the 17th Amendment (popular election of Senators), but actually trying to repeal women’s suffrage? Damn

Wanting to repeal the 17th amendment is now part of RWNJ dogma (for those that can count that high). I’ve never understood why it’s so much better for a state legislature to pick Senators than for the people to vote on it.

My best guess is that it is a consequence of RWNJ neo-Confederacy, where any opportunity to increase ‘states rights’ is taken, no matter how asinine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:58:53pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*GASP*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:59:35pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

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Of course, he did.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 5:59:39pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

I hear Greenwald’s been working in drywall for the past several years, and an honorable profession it is.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:00:29pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

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Interesting. Trump should know that Rule #1 concerning opposition research is that the first person who a political candidate investigates is him or herself.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:00:51pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

I think it all comes down to how many states are controlled by Republicans.

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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:02:18pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

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Greenwald’s star sure has faded a lot…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:02:37pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

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go to her TL right now.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:03:06pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

Wanting to repeal the 17th amendment is now part of RWNJ dogma (for those that can count that high). I’ve never understood why it’s so much better for a state legislature to pick Senators than for the people to vote on it.

My best guess is that it is a consequence of RWNJ neo-Confederacy, where any opportunity to increase ‘states rights’ is taken, no matter how asinine.

The reason is simple.

You can gerrymander local voting districts to ensure a Republican majority in a statehouse, even if there are a majority of independents and Democrats in the state.

With a gerrymandered statehouse, you can then select two Senators who are Republicans, even if they wouldn’t win a statewide election.

But repealing that would work the same as repealing the II Amendment: Start counting states that would reject it, when you get to 14, the amendment fails.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:03:31pm

Why do I get this feeling that any minute it’s going to come out that Trump is an elder in a Mormon polygamy cult?

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:04:03pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:04:29pm

Congressional candidate argues his support for Donald Trump wasn’t an endorsement of Donald Trump

OK then.

BTW, this pinhead is running for Congress in my district. Based on all of the yard signs of his I see he may win, too.

latimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:05:19pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Congressional candidate argues his support for Donald Trump wasn’t an endorsement of Donald Trump

OK then.

BTW, this pinhead is running for Congress in my district. Based on all of the yard signs of his I see he may win, too.

latimes.com

OFFS.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:05:56pm

re: #160 gocart mozart

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:06:00pm

re: #203 Anymouse

The reason is simple.

You can gerrymander local voting districts to ensure a Republican majority in a statehouse, even if there are a majority of independents and Democrats in the state.

With a gerrymandered statehouse, you can then select two Senators who are Republicans, even if they wouldn’t win a statewide election.

But repealing that would work the same as repealing the II Amendment: Start counting states that would reject it, when you get to 14, the amendment fails.

Right you are. I keep forgetting that the Cesspit of Satan (GOP) does unreasonably well at the state level.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:06:58pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:07:23pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

My best guess is that it is a consequence of RWNJ neo-Confederacy, where any opportunity to increase ‘states rights’ is taken, no matter how asinine.

…unless they want to pass the equivalent of the Fugitive Slave Law for, say, abortion, prayer in public school, et cetera.

There’s no core, no principle, no center to hold.

Not even the 2nd Amendment

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Scottishdragon  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:08:16pm

Reading the reports of these women as well as the twitter feed of women talking about being assaulted is something I cannot even really put words to.

I knew…intellectually in any event…about giving up male privilege when I transitioned.

It is something else entirely to experience it. Being frightened…really frightened… for the first time when walking at night to get the car after a play in Raleigh in a way I never experienced when looking like “just another guy”.

Getting hit on when trying to do phone surveys. Guys would tell me my voice was soooo sexy. How the fuck are you supposed to react to that when you effectively grew up as male? I would say some sort of ‘thank you’ and try to complete the survey while thinking “Eeewwww!”

In Indianapolis, getting propositioned as a prostitute while waiting for a van ride to my hotel at a grocery store, and while wearing a professional skirt suit. Guys whistling and calling out at me if I was near a street.

Having strange men stop to offer me compliments whenever I wore a skirt. Not even really bad or offensive stuff…but just weird. Getting hit on at a bar while having a drink with my spouse( who was somewhat amused, I think, since the guy didn’t seem to read I was with a woman and we were a couple)

And I never had anyone try to actually touch me, and it still felt slimy so much of the time.

The incident at the store in Indianapolis was the one time I really felt I was in danger, and I had my hand on a knife in my purse in case he got out of the car to come at me. Thank God he didn’t.

I am just beside myself reading this stuff that so many men really have no experience with and don’t realize that women have to develop a 6th sense of danger to try and avoid the creeps, pervs and assholes at every turn.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:08:45pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Last poll over a month ago showed him up by 3%.

That was before Trump’s scandals started blooming. Could be tough, but not impossible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:09:02pm

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

Trump neither knew nor cared to be bothered to find out.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:09:20pm

Wife needs to use my computer (her monitor died). See ya later.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:09:37pm

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:09:54pm

re: #203 Anymouse

The reason is simple.

You can gerrymander local voting districts to ensure a Republican majority in a statehouse, even if there are a majority of independents and Democrats in the state.

With a gerrymandered statehouse, you can then select two Senators who are Republicans, even if they wouldn’t win a statewide election.

But repealing that would work the same as repealing the II Amendment: Start counting states that would reject it, when you get to 14, the amendment fails.

This is certainly true. OTOH, I don’t recall hearing much about repealing the 17th until blacks and Latinos started voting in large numbers.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:07pm

re: #140 Danack

That’s funny, and oh so salty too!

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:31pm

re: #216 nines09

Billy didn’t tell him about the recording.

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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:10:44pm

No kidding.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:11:12pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

That didn’t take long. ;-[)

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nines09  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:12:05pm

re: #219 No Country For Old Haters

If he actually did his homework….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:12:51pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:13:17pm

re: #220 Jenner7

What?!?

Fucking asshole. Wonder if Greenwald were to agree if someone were to steal his emails, which would likely show collusion between him and Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:13:54pm

re: #224 Ziggy_TARDIS

What?!?

Fucking asshole. Wonder if Greenwald were to agree if someone were to steal his emails, which would likely show collusion between him and Putin.

Of course not. So sick of Greenwald’s bullshit.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:13:56pm

re: #216 nines09

That’s an easy question to answer. After a lengthy period of incubation, the various malignancies festering within the GOP have all come to a head in this election, and they have no use for the GOP establishment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:14:00pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:14:16pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

Wanting to repeal the 17th amendment is now part of RWNJ dogma (for those that can count that high). I’ve never understood why it’s so much better for a state legislature to pick Senators than for the people to vote on it.

My best guess is that it is a consequence of RWNJ neo-Confederacy, where any opportunity to increase ‘states rights’ is taken, no matter how asinine.

The states were already moving toward allowing popular vote of Senators. Oregon and Nebraska had laws for popular election, and another 10 states had advisory elections.

re: #203 Anymouse

The reason is simple.

You can gerrymander local voting districts to ensure a Republican majority in a statehouse, even if there are a majority of independents and Democrats in the state.

With a gerrymandered statehouse, you can then select two Senators who are Republicans, even if they wouldn’t win a statewide election.

But repealing that would work the same as repealing the II Amendment: Start counting states that would reject it, when you get to 14, the amendment fails.

They would never be able to get to 2/3 in either House of Congress

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bratwurst  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:14:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:14:53pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Jerry by your own standard, you should shut the fuck up about Bill Clinton and LGBT people but you don’t.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:16:16pm

I’m back. My wife forgot we live in mythical Mountain Time Zone, so the time she needs the computer is in the next hour.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:16:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:17:44pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:18:15pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s impressive. Falwell thinks his Trump apologetics are Jesus-like.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:18:26pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Trump neither knew nor cared to be bothered to find out.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:18:38pm

ICYM the audio of this.

Unbelievably SICK

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:19:24pm

David Sipress

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:19:41pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scottishdragon  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:20:52pm

Trump and the little girl on the escalator…

tmz.com

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:21:10pm

re: #201 b.d.

Greenwald’s star sure has faded a lot…

Not as far as MSNBC’s has. What a pathetic network.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:22:01pm

re: #239 Scottishdragon

Trump and the little girl on the escalator…

tmz.com

Shouldn’t have read the comments.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:22:13pm

re: #239 Scottishdragon

Trump and the little girl on the escalator…

tmz.com

Drip…drip…drip until the election.
I want to see the 538 Nowcast at 99% Clinton.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:22:16pm

David Corn just won the internet.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:22:36pm

re: #236 Stanley Sea

ICYM the audio of this.

Unbelievably SICK

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Yeah…this one is going to leave a mark.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:23:08pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:23:34pm

re: #239 Scottishdragon

Trump and the little girl on the escalator…

tmz.com

I think by now we all know what Trump means by “date”.

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danarchy  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:25:21pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

So, Bill, when is Sean resigning?

Pretty sure not even Hannity considers himself a journalist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:25:50pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:25:55pm

This is deeply nuts.

Extreme Skiing - Todd Ligare

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Scottishdragon  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:26:31pm

Out for now.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:27:22pm

Sometimes the Net is better than three free top-shelf margaritas. Header on Wonkette: Joe Arpaio Faces Contempt Charges As Feds Grab Him By The Posse.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:27:44pm

Elsewhere in Crazytown,

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin Declares ‘Oilfield Prayer Day’ To Ask God To Protect The State’s Oil Industry

huffingtonpost.com;

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:28:51pm

re: #247 danarchy

The only person who even comes close is Shep Smith, which is why Chris Wallace is doing the next “debate”.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:29:21pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:29:23pm

re: #252 Skip Intro

Elsewhere in Crazytown,

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin Declares ‘Oilfield Prayer Day’ To Ask God To Protect The State’s Oil Industry

huffingtonpost.com;

It’ll totally work. God will make solar, nuclear, and wind power stop working.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:29:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:31:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:31:58pm
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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:32:06pm

re: #252 Skip Intro

Elsewhere in Crazytown,

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin Declares ‘Oilfield Prayer Day’ To Ask God To Protect The State’s Oil Industry

huffingtonpost.com;

Mary Fallin, when she was elected, was the specific reason my wife and I left Oklahoma. (Long story but essentially she made it too costly for me to have a drivers license there).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:32:07pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:32:13pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:33:56pm

re: #88 fern01

Trump campaign given up on attacking Hillary - they are now running against Bill Clinton & the GOP - looks like a winning strategy

Please proceed. Lets figure out whether its Trump or Bill who is the sleaziest of all.

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:34:50pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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Some musicians, I assume, are good people. /s

I have never run into a hammered dulcimer player anywhere close to something like Mr. Trump; perhaps we have better extreme vetting.

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ExpatGirl  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:35:26pm

Trump spent decades publicly bragging about how he treated women and now he wants us to believe it was just talk and he was really a choir boy? Hmmm. Was he lying then or is he lying now? Hmmmm…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:38:28pm

SMOTI==>

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:38:43pm

It’s all out war now.

Hackers breach Clinton campaign chairman’s Twitter account

cnn.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:03pm

SMOTI misspelled “Donald Trump”

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:19pm

re: #212 Scottishdragon

Reading the reports of these women as well as the twitter feed of women talking about being assaulted is something I cannot even really put words to.

I knew…intellectually in any event…about giving up male privilege when I transitioned.

It is something else entirely to experience it. Being frightened…really frightened… for the first time when walking at night to get the car after a play in Raleigh in a way I never experienced when looking like “just another guy”.

Getting hit on when trying to do phone surveys. Guys would tell me my voice was soooo sexy. How the fuck are you supposed to react to that when you effectively grew up as male? I would say some sort of ‘thank you’ and try to complete the survey while thinking “Eeewwww!”

In Indianapolis, getting propositioned as a prostitute while waiting for a van ride to my hotel at a grocery store, and while wearing a professional skirt suit. Guys whistling and calling out at me if I was near a street.

Having strange men stop to offer me compliments whenever I wore a skirt. Not even really bad or offensive stuff…but just weird. Getting hit on at a bar while having a drink with my spouse( who was somewhat amused, I think, since the guy didn’t seem to read I was with a woman and we were a couple)

And I never had anyone try to actually touch me, and it still felt slimy so much of the time.

The incident at the store in Indianapolis was the one time I really felt I was in danger, and I had my hand on a knife in my purse in case he got out of the car to come at me. Thank God he didn’t.

I am just beside myself reading this stuff that so many men really have no experience with and don’t realize that women have to develop a 6th sense of danger to try and avoid the creeps, pervs and assholes at every turn.

If there really was a benevolent god, every white dude would wake up one morning as a poor black woman with three kids and a shit job, and spend the day that way. Get rid of that empathy gap problem right quick.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:34pm
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Jenner7  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:39:52pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:41:03pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

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I assumed that the GOP collapse this year will be temporary, and it will bounce right back in 2018. However, now I’m beginning to wonder if Trump is actually planning to launch his own white nationalist party along with the Trump/Breitbart News Network. That could spell the end for the GOP.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:41:42pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s nothing sad about it at all. Trump is a psychopath destroys people. He can go to hell.

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petesh  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:41:48pm

re: #263 Anymouse

Some musicians, I assume, are good people. /s

I have never run into a hammered dulcimer player anywhere close to something like Mr. Trump; perhaps we have better extreme vetting.

Were you hammered at the time?

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:42:00pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:42:46pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

Wanting to repeal the 17th amendment is now part of RWNJ dogma (for those that can count that high). I’ve never understood why it’s so much better for a state legislature to pick Senators than for the people to vote on it.

My best guess is that it is a consequence of RWNJ neo-Confederacy, where any opportunity to increase ‘states rights’ is taken, no matter how asinine.

Because buying enough state legislators in order to get a Senator of your choice is cheaper, and you are getting more for your buck as you’re already buying them to affect state-level legislation.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:42:57pm

Westeros, if only Sers could vote:

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

Gov. Pat McCrory (R-NC) stated in an interview that Caitlyn Jenner would be required to use the men’s room in North Carolina.

hollywoodlife.com

Again, why is Caitlyn Jenner a Republican?

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:58pm

Trump thinks is he is bulletproof and untouchable. He thinks he’ll be able to buy his way out of any legal troubles that may arise from this.

I hope he’s wrong and I hope he gets brought down hard.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:43:59pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:44:01pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kellyanne and Eric with the fake website; this; they gave up trying for truth a long time ago. It’s just “throw it out because the shit is so fast and furious that lots will believe and we’ll never have to apologize.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:44:17pm

re: #278 Anymouse

Gov. Pat McCrory (R-NC) stated in an interview that Caitlyn Jenner would be required to use the men’s room in North Carolina.

hollywoodlife.com

Again, why is Caitlyn Jenner a Republican?

Governor McCrory focused on the important issues. What a joke.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:44:21pm

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

Sorry with the off topic but the situation is now officially annoying me.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:08pm

re: #278 Anymouse

Gov. Pat McCrory (R-NC) stated in an interview that Caitlyn Jenner would be required to use the men’s room in North Carolina.

hollywoodlife.com

Again, why is Caitlyn Jenner a Republican?

Most likely because her money is more important to her than other people’s lives. It’s the usual explanation for Republican Quislings.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:25pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey why does Tim Kaine sound like Alec Baldwin. I swear these people are so fucking stupid. They deserve Trump and he deserves them as supporters.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:42pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tony Schwartz @tonyschwartz

Angry, desperate, cornered, hurt Trump is feeling empty & trying desperately to blow himself back up … but it’s hopeless & almost sad now.

So, same as he ever was?

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:45:55pm

re: #274 petesh

Were you hammered at the time?

LOL. I haven’t hammered lately due to my left arm surgery. I am itching to get back at hammering though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:46:14pm

re: #286 EPR-radar

Most likely because her money is more important to her than other people’s lives. It’s the usual explanation for Republican Quislings.

From what I understand, Cait has her own bigotries. It’s honestly really sad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:46:37pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:46:38pm

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump thinks is he is bulletproof and untouchable. He thinks he’ll be able to buy his way out of any legal troubles that may arise from this.

I hope he’s wrong and I hope he gets brought down hard.

I think Trump has hit a tipping point. Among many other things, he is most likely pissing off the real GOP powers that be by fucking this election up for them.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:47:15pm

Changes (1999 Remastered Version)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:47:19pm
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bratwurst  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:47:36pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

Sorry with the off topic but the situation is now officially annoying me.

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I say this as a huge fan of yours here and on Twitter:

Get over this.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:03pm

re: #270 Jenner7

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:10pm

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump thinks is he is bulletproof and untouchable. He thinks he’ll be able to buy his way out of any legal troubles that may arise from this.

I hope he’s wrong and I hope he gets brought down hard.

I see Trump spending the rest of his miserable life spending all of his kids inheritance on lawyers, only to lose it all and come out looking even worse than he does now.

That makes me happy.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:17pm

re: #270 Jenner7

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That should improve his media coverage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:21pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

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WTF.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:28pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:49:49pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

He just keeps getting dumber every single day.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:50:23pm

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump thinks is he is bulletproof and untouchable. He thinks he’ll be able to buy his way out of any legal troubles that may arise from this.

I hope he’s wrong and I hope he gets brought down hard.

And Trump’s lawyers should arrange for their pay to be put in escrow in advance.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:50:43pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:51:04pm

Video
Speaking of derpolorable, here’s Rush, the man whose show GOP leaders have appeared on for years saying the left is awful for thinking that consent should be part of sex. I’m ready for this son of a bitch to have terrible things happen to him. I’m sorry. I know that’s not right but fuck Limbaugh and anyone who rationalizes sexual assault.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:51:30pm

I give up. I can’t get anything right tonight.

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De Kolta Chair  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:52:42pm

Old skool but effective

Marshall Ramsey
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:52:49pm

Access Hollywood released the lewd remark to the little girl tape. He’s going to sue the NYT? The little girl is going to take him down,.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:53:34pm

re: #229 bratwurst

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I read that Law and Order SVU is going to have a Trump inspired episode.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:54:10pm

re: #308 Big Beautiful Door

I read that Law and Order SVU is going to have a Trump inspired episode.

Heard the same. That will piss him off or maybe he’ll be vain enough to play a fictional version of himself.

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ninja cat  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:54:17pm

So that crazy LA Times poll. I honestly don’t understand enough about polling, and weighting, but seems like the results were being skewed due to responses from one person.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:54:28pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:54:37pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Giving up on the idea of Rush Limbaugh spending eternity hip-deep in molten lead might be the hardest thing for me about being an atheist.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:37pm

re: #312 EPR-radar

Giving up on the idea of Rush Limbaugh spending eternity hip-deep in molten lead might be the hardest thing for me about being an atheist.

I know, I’m agnostic, best we can hope for is that Rush’s wife leaves him, he goes bankrupt, and he spends his last years alone in agony.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:55:51pm

re: #308 Big Beautiful Door

I read that Law and Order SVU is going to have a Trump inspired episode.

Billy Bush will play himself?

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Anymouse  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:57:09pm

Now my wife really needs the computer. I am gone for a little while (Oh man I am missing the historic meltdown of a political campaign in real time)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:57:13pm

Dr Puffin prescribes internal application of alcohol and a good night’s rest


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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:58:23pm

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

but her toes are still just totes adorbs!

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:58:38pm

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Vengeful kitty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:59:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:59:30pm

re: #269 goddamnedfrank

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 12, 2016 • 6:59:43pm

re: #311 Stanley Sea

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Since this is Jerry Falwell Jr’s university, expect those who are speaking out against Donald Trump to be reprimanded or expelled for not “upholding university values”

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bratwurst  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:00:52pm

Presidential candidate suing newspapers…perfectly normal.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:00:57pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

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I don’t think I have ever seen a complete map of Middle-Earth before; where did it come from?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:00:59pm

re: #321 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Since this is Jerry Falwell Jr’s university, expect those who are speaking out against Donald Trump to be reprimanded or expelled for not “upholding university values”

Wouldn’t surprise me. His father famously forbade a College Dems and Pro-Choice and Pro-LGBT group on campus but hey it’s the liberals who are intolerant of other points of views. //

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:01:15pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I know, I’m agnostic, best we can hope for is that Rush’s wife leaves him, he goes bankrupt, and he spends his last years alone in agony.

He’ll always have his Viagra and sex trips to the Domican Republic.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:02:02pm

re: #295 bratwurst

I say this as a huge fan of yours here and on Twitter:

Get over this.

Wil has over 3 million followers. He encourages them to use his block list via Block Together, yet has shown no interest in curating it. As a result I’ve got a LOT of people on Twitter blocking me for no discernible reason.

I’ll get over it when it stops.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:02:52pm
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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:03:17pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I know, I’m agnostic, best we can hope for is that Rush’s wife leaves him, he goes bankrupt, and he spends his last years alone in agony.

He’s on his fourth wife, I am sure he figured out to get a prenup by now.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:00pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Must not retweet David French, must not retweet David French, must not retweet David French.

Dammit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:03pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hate giving an upding to a NRO type but he’s right.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:07pm

re: #323 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think I have ever seen a complete map of Middle-Earth before; where did it come from?

Here.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

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Thanks.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

I’m gonna sue the bias media…
Hmmm….I’m not sure Trump wants to go through that many depositions

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:31pm
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m0nkeyb0y  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:04:58pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

my irony meter is permanently borked now:

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re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bill O’reilly would be jailing honest journalists under a Drumph regime

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:05:22pm

Somewhere a personable young politician with an authoritarian bent and a pedestrian sexual history is watching the 2016 campaign, and taking notes in cramped, uniform, penmanship.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:07:06pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even Trump knew he was lying there, and would likely be caught on it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:07:11pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Somewhere a personable young politician with an authoritarian bent and a pedestrian sexual history is watching the 2016 campaign, and taking notes in cramped, uniform, penmanship.

Yeah, we’ll read about a candidate in 20-30 years who will have gotten his start on the Trump campaign wagon.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:08:07pm

re: #264 ExpatGirl

Trump spent decades publicly bragging about how he treated women and now he wants us to believe it was just talk and he was really a choir boy? Hmmm. Was he lying then or is he lying now? Hmmmm…

Claiming that these women are lying depends on us accepting his claim that he lied to Billy Bush. That kind of creates a credibility problem for Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:08:54pm

Great, I’ve been unblocked in the most passive aggressive way imaginable. Dude couldn’t come up with justification so he used my frustration with the situation to get in one last swipe.

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MsJ  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:10:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:10:22pm

re: #337 EPR-radar

Even Trump knew he was lying there, and would likely be caught on it.

Gary Hart

So full of themselves.

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:10:33pm

The fact that 30-40% of this country and a majority of men will still vote for him after this completely takes away from the sheer joy and schadenfreude of his implosion and carnage in the GOP.

This guy is horrible, and people will still support him. Over a capable female candidate.

I think many men are not merely voting against Hillary because she’s Hillary Clinton: I think many men are voting against her because she’s a woman.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:10:34pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

Somewhere a personable young politician with an authoritarian bent and a pedestrian sexual history is watching the 2016 campaign, and taking notes in cramped, uniform, penmanship.

The notes will look like this when they’re discovered by authorities:

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:11:43pm

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t surprise me. His father famously forbade a College Dems and Pro-Choice and Pro-LGBT group on campus but hey it’s the liberals who are intolerant of other points of views. //

Don’t forget that Liberty Academy (K-12) and Liberty University were both founded as segregationist schools, and stayed as whites-only until the early 1980s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:12:41pm
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ninja cat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:13:52pm

Of course I found the hidden treats

Our annual trip to the vet is coming up soon. My vet already tsk tsk’d me last year about her weight, think this time I may get read the riot act.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:14:20pm

re: #343 BigPapa

The fact that 30-40% of this country and a majority of men will still vote for him after this completely takes away from the sheer joy and schadenfreude of his implosion and carnage in the GOP.

This guy is horrible, and people will still support him. Over a capable female candidate.

I think many men are not merely voting against Hillary because she’s Hillary Clinton: I think many men are voting against her because she’s a woman.

There definitely is an underline of sexism in opposition to her. I have no doubt about that at all.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:14:36pm

Again, thanks Charles.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:14:40pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Heard the same. That will piss him off or maybe he’ll be vain enough to play a fictional version of himself.

Lord knows he’ll have plenty of free time soon.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:15:15pm

re: #345 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Don’t forget that Liberty Academy (K-12) and Liberty University were both founded as segregationist schools, and stayed as whites-only until the early 1980s.

Naturally. After all, the first cause for the US Religious Right was agitating for tax-exempt status for segregated ‘religious’ schools. Abortion came later.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:15:53pm

re: #351 EPR-radar

Naturally. After all, the first cause for the US Religious Right was agitating for tax-exempt status for segregated ‘religious’ schools. Abortion came later.

Robertson’s Dad was a segregationist senator from here in Virginia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:16:00pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:16:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:21pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boo fucking hoo Sean.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:25pm

re: #347 ninja cat

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Our annual trip to the vet is coming up soon. My vet already tsk tsk’d me last year about her weight, think this time I may get read the riot act.

If she wants extra treats, she’s adorable enough to get them.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:32pm

This is me being a politician. I’m pretty bad at it.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:33pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

As if anyone could do more damage than Trump with a microphone and Twitter account.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:17:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:18:33pm

re: #359 Stanley Sea

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Well given Mary Kay Loterneau’s brother supports and is advising him…………..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:18:50pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:18:52pm

re: #354 Eric The Fruit Bat

Go ahead Trump. Make my day. The NYT will have pre-emptively lawyered this thing to death, so Trump’s lawsuit will do him no good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:19:37pm

re: #354 Eric The Fruit Bat

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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:19:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:21:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:21:30pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think so.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:21:34pm

re: #345 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Don’t forget that Liberty Academy (K-12) and Liberty University were both founded as segregationist schools, and stayed as whites-only until the early 1980s.

You probably know that there are “Christian academies” all over the South to this day that were founded for exactly the reason you name. They really only finally began to integrate in anything but token numbers for perhaps the only thing in the white South that trumps racism: winning football games.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:21:36pm

re: #362 EPR-radar

He’s doing this to get his base riled up, and maybe to try to flip some undecided as to how bad the media is. Cynical as fuck, but it may work. Then again, maybe not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:21:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:22:57pm
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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:04pm

re: #354 Eric The Fruit Bat

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I would love to see the look on Donald Trump’s face when the NY Times starts filing subpoenas for discovery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:20pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:23:32pm

re: #367 whitebeach

You probably know that there are “Christian academies” all over the South to this day that were founded for exactly the reason you name. They really only finally began to integrate in anything but token numbers for perhaps the only thing in the white South that trumps racism: winning football games.

That may be the first positive thing to come out of football that I’ve ever heard of.

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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:24:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:24:51pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:24:52pm
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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:25:39pm
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b.d.  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:26:03pm

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump groped 2 Corinthians.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:27:18pm

re: #378 b.d.

At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump groped 2 Corinthians.

And knocked 1 Corinthian up.
*dons brain bucket, flak jacket and ducks for cover*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:27:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:27:46pm

re: #377 Lidane

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East Coasters going to be up laaaate tonight!

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:28:02pm

re: #371 Bill and Opus for 2016!

I would love to see the look on Donald Trump’s face when the NY Times starts filing subpoenas for discovery.

The picture could be titled: “Vulgar Talking Yam turns Pasty Shade of Grey once his lawyers finally get Trump to really understand what ‘discovery’ means for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:28:52pm
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Lidane  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:28:56pm
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calochortus  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:29:49pm

Because we all need something more upbeat-

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:30:01pm

Just trying to imagine what Trump’s legal bills are. Of course he doesn’t have to pay them himself; that’s what his foundation is for.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:30:28pm

re: #367 whitebeach

You probably know that there are “Christian academies” all over the South to this day that were founded for exactly the reason you name. They really only finally began to integrate in anything but token numbers for perhaps the only thing in the white South that trumps racism: winning football games.

Between this and many areas drawing their school districting lines strictly along racial boundaries (like having separate city and county/parish districts), and “voucher” based schools, de facto segregation is still alive and well in much of white South.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:30:45pm

re: #384 Lidane

That red line. It’s beautiful. It looks like when Wile E. Coyote runs off the edge of a cliff.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:31:38pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Have I lived a good enough life for Trump to do this? Discovery would be awesome.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:33:53pm

re: #385 calochortus

Because we all need something more upbeat-

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Army daycare centers stock them, and special evacuation cribs. Seems sensible in a world with Timothy McVeighs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:34:01pm
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The Dude Abides  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:34:42pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Favorite part of that fake news site is their “Contact Us” page.
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abcnews.com.co

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:34:55pm

re: #390 Decatur Deb

Army daycare centers stock them, and special evacuation cribs. Seems sensible in a world with Timothy McVeighs.

Or just a world with fires, earthquakes and other natural disasters. Babies have a hard time lining up and walking out together.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:35:48pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That about covers it.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:37:10pm

Well this is ominous. It’s also the Daily Fail so salt to taste:

Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war

Russian officials have been ‘told to bring relatives home to the Motherland’
Failure to act will put promotion chances at risk, according to local reports
Comes amid worsening relations between Russia and US over Syria crisis
US has pulled plug on Syria talks and accused Russia of hacking attacks
Russia has moved nuclear-capable missiles nearer to the Polish border

Note also that Alex Jones and Jill Stein have been beating the Putin war drums for some anti-Hillary fear mongering.

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:37:52pm

re: #385 calochortus

Because we all need something more upbeat-

[Embedded content]

They named him “Timmy” as in Lassie’s Timmy (which is pretty good)
I was thinking “Duke Nukem”

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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:39:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:39:46pm
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Teukka  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:40:01pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

Well this is ominous. It’s also the Daily Fail so salt to taste:

Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war

Note also that Alex Jones and Jill Stein have been beating the Putin war drums for some anti-Hillary fear mongering.

Awwww crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:40:52pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:41:42pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

There’s an alternate explanation.

Russia’s running out of money.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:41:43pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

Well this is ominous. It’s also the Daily Fail so salt to taste:

Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war

Note also that Alex Jones and Jill Stein have been beating the Putin war drums for some anti-Hillary fear mongering.

Let’s hope the Russians love their children, too.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:42:01pm

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel

I’m surprised they managed fit that story in with all the breaking Kardashian news they’re running.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:43:12pm

re: #403 Skip Intro

I’m surprised they managed fit that story in with all the breaking Kardashian news they’re running.

They did manage to squeeze it in below a story about Nicole Kidman’s long legs.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:44:59pm

re: #387 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Between this and many areas drawing their school districting lines strictly along racial boundaries (like having separate city and county/parish districts), and “voucher” based schools, de facto segregation is still alive and well in much of white South.

Oh hell yes. Ironically, because they long ago became football factories (as well as pumping up both men’s and women’s basketball), some of the “Christian academies” are today more integrated than many of the public schools from which they were supposed to provide escape hatches.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:45:45pm

One of my former American students is overjoyed. At age 27, she has bought her own house all by herself. She has had a home business making custom-made cupcakes for the last few years. Now she can move out of her apartment and bake cupcakes in a larger kitchen.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Oct 12, 2016 • 7:50:44pm

re: #402 Decatur Deb

I wonder how secure Russia’s food supply is.

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Sir_Checkmate  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:17:27pm

re: #278 Anymouse

Cause, to be quite honest, she’s in it all for the attention. I’m not insulting her transition, I believe that to be legitimate, but she’s been playing it up for everything that she can get out of it, and screw everyone else.

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Sir_Checkmate  Oct 12, 2016 • 8:25:26pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

That name sounds familiar as per someone famous’s kid. I know she was convicted of statutory rape, but is she the daughter of anyone weird? I seem to remember that.

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 12, 2016 • 9:09:05pm

re: #409 Sir_Checkmate

That name sounds familiar as per someone famous’s kid. I know she was convicted of statutory rape, but is she the daughter of anyone weird? I seem to remember that.

John G. Schmitz, Congressman and prominent right-wing weirdo. How weird? He was thrown out of the John Birch Society for being too radical.


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