Post-Debate Jam: Joe Bonamassa & Mahalia Barnes: “Riding With the Kings”
Joe Bonamassa and Mahalia Barnes just tear it up, in their version of this classic John Hiatt song.
Joe Bonamassa and Mahalia Barnes just tear it up, in their version of this classic John Hiatt song.
Upbeat mood on frontline #Peshmerga #Mosul pic.twitter.com/cxmNJ2hUN0
— Orla Guerin (@OrlaGuerin) October 20, 2016
Airstrike just now on #IS positions #Peshmerga #Mosuloffensive pic.twitter.com/tuDRa5HHnh
— Orla Guerin (@OrlaGuerin) October 20, 2016
Bloomberg: Ocean’s Election: How to rig a Presidential election Las Vegas Style
Please proceed:
NEWS: Sean Hannity calls Ryan a “saboteur,” says he’s encouraging Freedom Caucus members to mount bids for speaker https://t.co/NjMKWmeoGh
— Robert Costa (@costareports) October 20, 2016
HANNITY, who is close to Trump inner circle, tells @washingtonpost that he’d like Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows or Gohmert to run against Ryan
— Robert Costa (@costareports) October 20, 2016
If Trump does create a TV news network, then Democratic politicians must shun it absolutely. No status of legitimacy should be conferred upon such an outlet. It should be allowed to become the festering cesspit of misogyny, racism and crybaby resentment it’s destined to be without interference. Republicans should be allowed, even encouraged, to appear on it endlessly. All the better to smear them in its filth come election season. Trump’s vile campaign for the presidency is only his first gift to the Democratic Party.
The Washington Times Presidential Debate Poll:
TRUMP 77% (18,290)
CLINTON 17% (4,100)#DrainTheSwamp #Debate pic.twitter.com/wsgsf5nv6H— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
LET THE POST-DEBATE DELUSIONAL TWEETS BEGIN!! https://t.co/Kz8QRulKyB
— Harold Cook (@HCookAustin) October 20, 2016
re: #6 jaunte
@realDonaldTrump You’re on acid. pic.twitter.com/WxTwxnfic5
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 20, 2016
The Washington Times Presidential Debate Poll:
TRUMP 77% (18,290)
CLINTON 17% (4,100)#DrainTheSwamp #Debate pic.twitter.com/wsgsf5nv6H— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
@realDonaldTrump Here we go again with the meaningless unscientific Internet polls that are spammed by Trump’s deranged followers. SAD! https://t.co/U7JQWcMQxx
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 20, 2016
re: #4 Lidane
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Grand idea, Lumpy. Your party’s sinking, so why not toss it an anchor? Brilliant!
Trump is an overdone tuna casserole at this point. We’re going to see his poll numbers really drop after this debate.
re: #12 Targetpractice
Grand idea, Lumpy. Your party’s sinking, so why not toss it an anchor? Brilliant!
Love watching the GOP eat its own entrails.
South Park takes on Trump’s “IT’S ALL RIGGED!” talk:
South Park’s take on Trump’s “fixed” election comments pic.twitter.com/I6LwyzRMwL
— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) October 20, 2016
As Col. Jack would say, “You can’t handle the truth!!” Your guy failed “Bigley”. .@mitchellvii
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) October 20, 2016
GOP Congressman: “Trump is toast.” pic.twitter.com/RoXF2JQndl
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) October 20, 2016
re: #14 Big Beautiful Door
Love watching the GOP eat its own entrails.
In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, “Is it good, friend?”
“It is bitter - bitter,” he answered;
“But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart.”
And it’s not just the presidential race. Betting markets now predict Democrats will win the Senate. Polls have started showing Democrats in striking distance of the House. The GOP has collapsed into a mid-election civil war, with the party’s presidential nominee openly battling the speaker of the House.
You have to wonder what Breitbart, who has pimped Trump up so much, thinks about him potentially going into competition with them.
re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg
You have to wonder what Breitbart, who has pimped Trump up so much, thinks about him potentially going into competition with them.
I doubt it would be competition. Breitbart peeps would have a starring role.
Repost from the last thread. I think it’s important.
Does Hillary go negative for the next week, mentioning the ongoing civil litigation of the forcible rape trial against Trump of a 13-year old girl?
I think she should, especially in potential swing states with iffy down-ballot races. Trump was established to be in the home of a convicted pedophile at the time of the assaults.
She can go all positive in the last two weeks, but that civil case would be the Death of Trump in how it plays in Plano.
Suburban Republican women can justify a lot, but child rape is right out of their wheelhouse. If they buy the story (and every indication says they should) he is dead meat.
“If you are a star, you can get away with anything.”
Trolling trolling trolling…… Keep those wingnuts scrolling…..
No, really, your guy lost. He’ll lose again on Nov. 8. @debbie_gorton @zackfarley @realDonaldTrump
— DaveT62 (@DaveoutofAustin) October 20, 2016
re: #15 jaunte
NO, YOU’RE THE PUPPET
#NowPlaying Umphrey’s McGee > Similar Skin > Puppet String https://t.co/1MAATAbSEC
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 20, 2016
Jesus.
Via @MMFA: Trump Ally Alex Jones Suffers Debate Meltdown Over “Lying Whore” Hillary Clinton https://t.co/rKa5amx55K | #p2 #media #tcot
— joshua epstein🏳️🌈 (@thejoshuablog) October 20, 2016
re: #26 MsJ
That’s to be expected from that contemptible freak.
Who won? #debate #debatenight #Debates2016
— WeSearchr (@wesearchr) October 20, 2016
wFIGOqHmi8buT0FVQJtzNnacateLJiyMYYmyy4ddCaKr5Fi/b5sVew==
—-Mosul falls before the election.
——Great throngs greet the liberators in the streets
——A similar throng of ISIS fighters are led off to a doubtful future in captivity.
—GOP/Kremlin conspiracy media claim that it didn’t happen and all the pictures were cobbled together from CGI and stock footage.
re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
91% for The Donald™ out of over 2,000 votes. I need my fainting couch.
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2319 votes already??? LOLWUT??
Who won? #debate #debatenight #Debates2016
— WeSearchr (@wesearchr) October 20, 2016
Hey @realDonaldTrump, here’s another complete bullshit online poll to boost your comically fragile ego! https://t.co/CmQbYBAx9K
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 20, 2016
Trump wants to know why we can’t do a “sneak attack” on ISIS in Mosul. Here’s why, Donald: https://t.co/OjoC8eotPH via @voxdotcom
— Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth) October 20, 2016
re: #28 Dave In Austin
Did you watch it. Was it stroke worthy?
That was insane. I always thought his was a schtick. But that dude is fukkin nuts.
@shannynmoore I asked the very same question hours ago on a blog I contribute to. https://t.co/JZgnjkVruq
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 20, 2016
re: #36 MsJ
That was insane. I always thought his was a schtick. But that dude is fukkin nuts.
Alex Jones was bugfuck crazy when he had a local cable access show here in Austin in the 90s. He’s just got a larger platform now.
This hashtag! LOL!!
Ahab? Total loser. Lost a leg to a whale? I’ll defeat the whale and ISIS and deport Queequeg. #TrumpBookReport
— Bryn Chancellor (@BrynChancellor) October 20, 2016
“Such a nasty woman.”
IMHO, this is really the final straw, or the last nail, or however you want to put it.
Not because of the line itself, which is bad enough, but because of how and when it was delivered.
You could tell that the creep had been storing it up, savoring it, probably for hours, thinking it would be a killer (and how stupid a thought is that?). And that he felt time running out, so he had to get it in then or never. And of course it didn’t come while she was attacking him, which might at least have made some kind of dramatic sense, but while she was in the middle of talking about fairly technical issues regarding Medicare.
It was a tone deaf and incompetent trumpet player blatting out the wrong cracked note at the wrong time, and then thinking that because he made noise it was all good.
re: #30 Shiplord Kirel
The Offensive is going very well right now, and is also on schedule in regards to capturing towns and villages.
WeSearchr be having some technical issues with Bitcoin payments, so user helpfully posts this in Twitter.
@wesearchr Going to donate to the election fraud crowd-fund… Bitcoin doesn’t appear to be working, any ideas? I get this error: pic.twitter.com/pTxIhzqjKI
— Jacob Alford (@jacob_alford) October 20, 2016
re: #38 Lidane
Alex Jones was bugfuck crazy when he had a local cable access show here in Austin in the 90s. He’s just got a larger platform now.
Alex Jones was a vocal supporter of “sovereign citizen” John Joe Gray back in 2000. He spoke to ABC’s 20/20 way back when.
Bad Hombres and Nasty Women sounds like a ZZ Top cover band.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) October 20, 2016
Krauthammer on Trump’s Refusal to Accept Election Results: ‘This is Political Suicide’ https://t.co/1M6GPAUXHt (VIDEO) #debatenight pic.twitter.com/pTJp6iyRq0
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) October 20, 2016
re: #30 Shiplord Kirel
Every one of Daesh’s bingo halls emptied. (Old joke.)
“They called her Black Beauty. Personally, I’d say she was only a 5.” #TrumpBookReport
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 20, 2016
Trump on fetuses: In 20 years, they’ll be dating me!
— Bill Maher (@billmaher) October 20, 2016
Eric Trump’s in peak “do you like Huey Lewis and the News” mode here pic.twitter.com/uwCH8FTI16
— Citizen of the World (@abradacabla) October 20, 2016
Joy Reid is tearing Hugh Hewitt a new asshole.
re: #45 Lidane
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As Hillary noted tonight, it’s part of a pattern, that Trump doesn’t think he ever loses fairly, it’s always rigged against him. He really does fit the saying “born on third base and thinks he hit a triple” to a T.
re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
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Why would you want to waste your time when it could be put to better use cleaning out your sock drawer? (All the votes so far are probably just Furby and friend freeping their own poll)
re: #51 Targetpractice
As Hillary noted tonight, it’s part of a pattern, that Trump doesn’t think he ever loses fairly, it’s always rigged against him. He really does fit the saying “born on third base and thinks he hit a triple” to a T.
Her dig on his tv show not winning the Emmy and that being rigged was masterful.
re: #54 MsJ
Her dig on his tv show not winning the Emmy and that being rigged was masterful.
God, that was a good dig…and that he actually responded to it was a mark of a pro (her team probably didn’t KNOW he’d rise to the bait, but it woulda been a killer line even if he didn’t…_
re: #45 Lidane
I always enjoy seeing Krauthammer. Madame Tussaud’s skin work is amazing, and the Disney World robotics are hard to beat.
re: #56 whitebeach
I always enjoy seeing Krauthammer. Madame Tussaud’s skin work is amazing, and the Disney World robotics are hard to beat.
I have never liked him at all, but I think he has some degenerative disease, doesn’t he? MS? ALS?
I am REALLY going to enjoy the wingnut meltdowns on Nov 9
re: #57 retired cynic
I have never liked him at all, but I think he has some degenerative disease, doesn’t he? MS? ALS?
Not that I know of, although it may have developed lately. He’s been in a wheelchair for many years, since he dived into an empty swimming pool back around his college days. He’s a smart dude and once upon a time had some fairly insightful things to say, but he sold his brains to the devil sometime around the Reagan era.
re: #57 retired cynic
Paralyzed and wheelchair-bound since a car accident in the Early 1970’s.
Stopped clock, blind squirrel……
Voters want the candidates to support the election results. No excuses.
Hillary did. Trump did not. #Debate pic.twitter.com/LH7J4JPMC2— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) October 20, 2016
re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
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I’ll skew the one on November 8th.
re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg
I am REALLY going to enjoy the wingnut meltdowns on Nov 9
me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.
re: #65 Shiplord Kirel
Oh, it’s sparkling!! Oooh!
It’s a brain that thinks “say she’s such a nasty woman” and also thinks, “lean into the mic for it.”
— Seth Meyers (@sethmeyers) October 20, 2016
re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
“me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.”
I take what I call the “sneaky” approach. I post articles dissing Trump without comment and imagine how pissed off some of my so-called conservative former co-workers get. I don’t express a personal opinion, I let the MSM do the talking for me. I don’t think they’ll ever stop and examine why Trump lost on November 8th, but they’ll invest a lot of time into talking about what the polls they saw indicated about the election—-which is that Trump was winning! I think this will be followed by talking about how Trump was right all along, the election was rigged!
ICYMI. That’s Republican billionaire @MegWhitman giving @HillaryClinton a hug after the #debate pic.twitter.com/mHBXFOEcK8
— wheat-dogg (@liguy743) October 20, 2016
re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
me too, still debating whether I should gloat on facebook or just sit back and smile.
On facebook I’m going to sit back and smile but on twitter I’m going to gloat like hell on wheels.
Vox tries to analyze Trump’s argle bargle about Aleppo.
Here is what Trump said:
Well, Aleppo is a disaster. It’s a humanitarian nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. I mean, what do you need, a signed document? Take a look at Aleppo. It is so sad when you see what’s happened. And a lot of this is because of Hillary Clinton. Because what has happened is by fighting Assad, who turned out to be a lot tougher than she thought, and now she is going to say, “Oh, he loves Assad.” He’s just much tougher and much smarter than her and Obama. And everyone thought he was gone two years ago, three years ago. He aligned with Russia. He now also aligned with Iran, who we made very powerful. We gave them $150 billion back. We give them $1.7 billion in cash. I mean cash, bundles of cash as big as this stage. We gave them $1.7 billion.
Now they have aligned, he has aligned with Russia and with Iran. They don’t want ISIS. But they have other things because we’re backing, we’re backing rebels. We don’t know who the rebels are. We’re giving them lots of money, lots of everything. We don’t know who the rebels are. And when and if, and it’s not going to happen because you have Russia and you have Iran now. But if they ever did overthrow Assad, you might end up as bad as Assad is, and he is a bad guy.
But you may very well end up with worse than Assad. If she did nothing, we’d be in much better shape. And this is what has caused the great migration where she has taken in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees who probably in many cases, not probably, who are definitely in many cases ISIS-aligned. And we now have them in our country and wait until you see this is going to be the great Trojan horse.
And wait until you see what happens in the coming years. Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job.
From his Page
DEPLORABLE_Ray Hill @EarnforTrumpNC 14h14 hours ago
@EarnforTrumpNC I need my fellow @realDonaldTrump supporters to vote. The lier liberals are rigging my pole!
0 replies 88 retweets 77 likes
Who will you vote for in this election?
— DEPLORABLE_Ray Hill (@EarnforTrumpNC) October 19, 2016
Miss the last #debate of the 2016 election? We’ve got you covered. https://t.co/6OZtrg079U pic.twitter.com/M1DNqkOqVZ
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) October 20, 2016
This tweet ended up in my TL as a “Promoted Tweet.”
don trumps - “I AM A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF EXPLAINING TO WOMEN HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THINGS BECAUSE THEY DONT UNDERSTAND”
— Chuck Tingle (@ChuckTingle) October 20, 2016
I can’t watch the debate but I heard Trump just mentioned these guys? pic.twitter.com/4twlwptCN3
— billy eichner (@billyeichner) October 20, 2016
Yo yo yo …
October 20,1971-Snoop Dogg [Calvin Broadus], rapper (What’s My Name, Gin & Juice) is born pic.twitter.com/22WCgAQBzD
— OnThisDay & Facts (@NotableHistory) October 20, 2016
Happy Birthday C!
re: #79 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Is it your birthday wheatdogg?
re: #80 teleskiguy
College buddy of mine made some Halloween pumpkins. Winner winner chicken dinner.
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I’ll have what he’s smokin.
re: #74 teleskiguy
Wow! They pretty much slammed Trump.
One of my favorite moments in the debate: when Trump said “Nobody respects women more than me” and the audience laughed at him.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 20, 2016
That must have really stung his massive ego, to realize all those people saw right through his bullshit.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 20, 2016
The real danger in the seed Trump planted isn’t a clown like him whining he didn’t win, it’s an incumbent deciding they didn’t lose.
— Kieran Healy (@kjhealy) October 20, 2016
re: #73 Tigger2
Voted his poll then auto-block kicked in
Hey @StephenKing: Any way you could sic Pennywise, Cujo, Christine or Frank Dodd on Paul LePage? Thank you.
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) October 18, 2016
re: #78 teleskiguy
Yo yo yo …
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Spliffin’ right out of the chute….
I’ve seen Snoop Dogg live in concert twice, and I have to say the dude can put on a show! And he can work the audience like a motherfucker!
When things don’t go as planned. #LMAO pic.twitter.com/gXKhtWdzTV
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 20, 2016
@EarnforTrumpNC No one that has their lips on Putins ass is a Patriot.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) October 20, 2016
re: #82 whitebeach
I’ll have what he’s smokin.
He lives in southwest Colorado, nearest “big town” is Durango, CO, which is the town I was born in.
As far as what he’s smokin’, cannabis has been more or less legal in Colorado for 16 years. It’s *REALLY* legal these days after the passage of Amendment 64 in 2012. Long story short, I used to send my friend who carved those awesome pumpkins on weed runs at the dispensary. In those days only “carded” people could buy cannabis.
So yeah, people are smoking pot in Colorado.
…hee hee hee…
:)
re: #93 Tigger2
Honey, ain’t nobody touching your pole let alone riggin’ it!
My thoughts on a ‘rigged’ presidential election. pic.twitter.com/075n83NXMH
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) October 20, 2016
paranoid late nite
i fear trump will get us all wound up defending the integrity of american elections, only to have putin steal the election for him
and then if we question it, he’ll be all “hey you guys were the ones who were so indignant about anybody daring to not accept the people’s will!”
re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
I am concerned about Putin attempting to steal the election for Trump too.
Thanks for the music share BTW - I really only knew Mahalia as Jimmy’s daughter - amazing singer.
Via @NationalMemo: Why Trump Now Scares The Republicans Who Created Him And His Movement https://t.co/kAO6opIB3R | #p2 #tcot
— joshua epstein🏳️🌈 (@thejoshuablog) October 20, 2016
re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
paranoid late nite
i fear trump will get us all wound up defending the integrity of american elections, only to have putin steal the election for him
and then if we question it, he’ll be all “hey you guys were the ones who were so indignant about anybody daring to not accept the people’s will!”
I’ve had those issues exact thoughts. We have voting machines without paper trails and technology can be hacked.
re: #99 Ziggy_TARDIS
I am concerned about Putin attempting to steal the election for Trump too.
well i console myself that it would be difficult to target enuf of the hundreds of precincts and besides the old pros used to say ‘you cant steal a landslide’ but still who knows
can you get in your tardis and check out the headlines on nov 9th for us?
re: #102 MsJ
I’ve had those issues exact thoughts. We have voting machines without paper trails and technology can be hacked.
as a pgmr i think we should demand that the voting machine code be open source and subject to independant testing in place before voting
re: #104 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
as a pgmr i think we should demand that the voting machine code be open source and subject to independant testing in place before voting
They won’t. It’s proprietary software.
re: #106 Nyet
True,. but we still have to worry about Putin’s Russia tampering with the election via hacking and data manipulation.
Today both @MajorCBS & @Acosta pointed out there’s more evidence that Trump committed sexual assault than there is of voter fraud pic.twitter.com/zc8Xo4mlaN
— Leanne Naramore (@LeanneNaramore) October 18, 2016
re: #107 Ziggy_TARDIS
I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?
Ok, a bit more relaxed after finding this statement by the DHS.
Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.
Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials.
re: #109 Nyet
You are right. I just found a DHS statement. In regards to what can be done after the election to Russia, couldn’t the US ban any food being produced in the US getting exported to Russia?
re: #111 Ziggy_TARDIS
You are right. I just found a DHS statement. In regards to what can be done after the election to Russia, couldn’t the US ban any food being produced in the US getting exported to Russia?
Em, you’re late by a couple of years.
bloomberg.com
You won the Fox Channel 6 online poll in Wisconsin? Wow, you’re just going to coast into the WH at this rate. @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/Z33ueCoffz
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 20, 2016
Also, aren’t the two talking points
- voter fraud is not happening/election is not rigged
- someone can steal the election by electronic means
contradictory?
re: #113 Kragar
He can have the Drudge victory, nobody else needs it.
re: #45 Lidane
Krauthammer on Trump’s Refusal to Accept Election Results: ‘This is Political Suicide’
Just sitting down here in Central Europe…
So my thoughts are that whatever the outcome, DT will contest the results. Even if the GOP loses, he will seek to demonstrate that Hillary did not win fair and square, ergo, her election is at best tainted or at worst invalid.
This is what happens when the GOP nominates someone who finds himself exempt from the norms and rules that govern politics and human interaction.
Trumpian exceptionalism, so to speak.
re: #109 Nyet
I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?
How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?
You tell me.
re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
smoke signals, I guess
Are you saying you agree with Trump that it’s not hard to rig your elections?
re: #121 Nyet
Are you saying you agree with Trump that it’s not hard to rig your elections?
No, I am just saying that I cannot describe the means or mechanism by which votes are tallied.
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?
Data is manually entered into a database by the person counting votes based on what the machines report.
RT if you’re proud of Hillary tonight. #DebateNight #SheWon pic.twitter.com/H7CJep7APX
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 20, 2016
re: #123 Timothy Watson
And it can be checked and re-checked.
Nasty Woman #inktober #debate pic.twitter.com/TMQ9b6zIwY
— Skeletony Cliff (@TangoCharlie) October 20, 2016
Russian opposition to Jill: we’re getting threatened, beaten, arrested, killed.
Jill: I know, right! I’m totes with you guys. It’s the same here in the US. For example, they didn’t even let me debate!
Holy crap, I am glad I read the summary of the debate here.
My wife spent about an hour this afternoon at our ex-mayor’s house (the unofficial never Trump Republican). He is quite disillusioned about his party and strongly considering voting for no one in this election.
The walkback starts, but it’s already a conservative meme:
After initially warning of potential widespread voting fraud, Indiana’s secretary of state acknowledged that many of the thousands of altered registration records she flagged might just be residents rushing to correct their names or birth dates ahead of the election.
Republican Secretary of State Connie Lawson told The Associated Press she wanted Indiana State Police to investigate to ensure there was no widespread fraud after her office found a heavier than usual number of changes to voter registration records this election cycle.
“It’s very possible that because of heightened activity this year that many of those changes are changes that the individual made,” Lawson told the AP on Wednesday. “… That should give Indiana voters the comfort that we are vigilant and we are protecting their rights and the elections here are not rigged.”
re: #128 Anymouse
Holy crap, I am glad I read the summary of the debate here.
My wife spent about an hour this afternoon at our ex-mayor’s house (the unofficial never Trump Republican). He is quite disillusioned about his party and strongly considering voting for no one in this election.
I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.
re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.
My brother was being coy yesterday, but he essentially admitted voting for Clinton and the Democratic candidate for Congress via absentee yesterday.
For the eighth straight October, the National Football League has gone pink. Players wear pink gloves, cleats, hats and towels. Referees blow pink whistles. The league drops a pink ribbon beneath its shield on game-used footballs. All of these displays are part of the league’s partnership with the American Cancer Society to raise money and consciousness during breast cancer awareness month.On many high school athletic fields, players also are going pink, incorporating the colored gear into uniforms and sideline gear and apparel. Retailers have responded by pushing the pink gear front and center on store floor space and websites.
But don’t judge the purchase by its color: Aside from specifically licensed merchandise bearing the NFL pink ribbon shield logo, pink gear sales usually do not benefit any breast cancer-affiliated causes. That means much of what is worn at the youth level is a fashion statement more than a philanthropic effort — whether athletes and their parents know it or not.
re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am hoping that will be representative of a lot of semi-sane Republicans.
Well, as a village trustee, I do not feel it is appropriate for me to encourage people not to vote, even in this R+omygod district.
My wife on the other hand, is not me. If she wants to go out and encourage others to vote for Clinton, McMullin or Johnson (which she suggested to him), or Stein (which he laughed at), I am not going to get in her way.
In the meantime, our ballots arrived in the mail this afternoon. We will spend tomorrow researching all the Republicans on the ballot (no Democrats here other than Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Kaine), and decide which ones we won’t vote for.
Also, there should be a few referenda on the ballot as well. (The reinstate the death penalty referendum gets an automatic no from me, though I will check the wording first to ensure no doesn’t mean yes.)
re: #133 Anymouse
Well, as a village trustee, I do not feel it is appropriate for me to encourage people not to vote, even in this R+omygod district.
Let them go and vote, just leave the presidential choice blank rather than vote for DT…
re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Let them go and vote, just leave the presidential choice blank rather than vote for DT…
Well, like Oregon, we have mail only balloting. (The state argues in our vast empty rural areas, mail balloting is more cost efficient than running polling stations, though in our village they used to run a polling station with local village residents as judges and poll watchers in the fire hall.)
On mail balloting, it is almost as if the GOP is only concerned about non-existent in-person voter fraud in places where elections might be close. In places like my state with its overwhelming Republican base, the state makes it as easy as possible to vote.
re: #40 whitebeach
Can you imagine Trump calling Angela Merkel a nasty woman during an international gathering? He is an embarrassment of epic proportions. I’m not even Republican but feel ashamed that that Party has fallen so low.
re: #135 Anymouse
On mail balloting, it is almost as if the GOP is only concerned about non-existent in-person voter fraud in places where elections might be close. In places like my state with its overwhelming Republican base, the state makes it as easy as possible to vote.
Yes, their concern with “election fraud” is rather selective.
And if increased voter participation and registration is an overall net-loss proposition for the GOP, what does that say about their party, their message and their constituency?
‘Morning, all. Watched the shitshow here, but don’t listen and type well at the same time. I claim the Lizard Prescience Award for this cheap’n easy prediction of yesterday afternoon:
It’s always possible that Trump will slam into the wall and go cartwheeling in flames while his tires spin into the helpless spectators.
Say, here are the two candidates tax proposals side-by-side, per @taxpolicycenter pic.twitter.com/X75EKkbRHY
— Tim Fernholz (@TimFernholz) October 20, 2016
re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, their concern with “election fraud” is rather selective.
And if increased voter participation and registration is an overall net-loss proposition for the GOP, what does that say about their party, their message and their constituency?
I occasionally have the tax argument with my wife as well (she hasn’t quite given up all her Libertarian Party positions), most notably a flat tax.
She pointed out to our ex-mayor this afternoon if you wanted to hear a real debate between a liberal and a libertarian, just come round our house in the evening and stand round the windows. LOL
Yesterday I called out the serious discrepancy that has evolved in the IEM and PredictIt electronic betting results. After the debate, it got only worse. IEM is selling Trump at 9 cents, he’s 18 cents on PredictIt. That market is either self-hypnotized by its partisan commenters or it’s being manipulated. The split makes no profit-scoring sense.
Trump’s foreign policy answers sound like a book report from a teenager who hasn’t read the book. “Oh, the grapes! They had so much wrath!”
— Antonio French (@AntonioFrench) October 20, 2016
re: #140 Anymouse
There are many reasons for taxes beyond the basic one of raising revenues to operate a government.
There is the one about restricting or limiting undesirable behavior, like a cigarette or alcohol tax, and there is the process of subsidizing desirable behavior, such as tax exemptions for mortgage interest or renewable energies.
re: #142 Dave In Austin
Trump’s foreign policy answers sound like a book report from a teenager who hasn’t read the book. “Oh, the grapes! They had so much wrath!”
He has made it clear that he is just going to surround himself with experts, the best experts, who will handle piddling details like relations with Ubeki-bekistan while he concentrates on the big picture, namely Making America Great again.
re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There are many reasons for taxes beyond the basic one of raising revenues to operate a government.
There is the one about restricting or limiting undesirable behavior, like a cigarette or alcohol tax, and there is the process of subsidizing desirable behavior, such as tax exemptions for mortgage interest or renewable energies.
Excessive government overreach! Where is all that in the II Amendment?
Fact checking Mr. Trump’s claims on abortion:
About 1.3 % of abortions happen after 21 weeks. Vast majority of states ban at viability except for health reasons. Source: @Guttmacher pic.twitter.com/7GnjrtYjz8
— Irin Carmon (@irin) October 20, 2016
Some brave researchers published a paper on an analysis of II Amendment rights as discussed on Twitter a year after Sandy Hook (a bit long):
re: #145 Anymouse
Abortions all involve pulling screaming babies out of their mothers, chopping them up and selling the parts to pay for a new sports car.
End of discussion.
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For those feeling twitchy because of possible external influences on the voting and counting process: the Carter Center has issued a statement about the integrity of the American electoral system. While it is aimed at Trump, the integrity wouldn’t be possible if the system is not protected against hacking, so this means that the CC experts are also pretty sure about that aspect too.
re: #148 Anymouse
God willing, next year Trump will be applying for a pardon.
😉
Wikileaks has exposed that running a political campaign means sending a lot of dumb emails and having a lot of dumb meetings.
— Jane Coaston (@cjane87) October 19, 2016
re: #142 Dave In Austin
Thus began the hashtag #TrumpBookReports.
OMG @Morning_Joe Defending “I’ll look at it at the time” is the same as I’ll respect the results. Like VoterSuppression is the same as RIG?
— Njean Curl (@Njeanous) October 20, 2016
There are six states — Ohio, Arizona, Iowa, Florida, North Carolina and Nevada — that appear on at least 80 percent of Trump’s victory maps. It’s very, very difficult to imagine a win for Trump if he doesn’t win all of these: A Trump win without Ohio occurs less than 1 percent of the time in the model simulations, and a win without Nevada only about 2 percent of the time. There are six more states that appear on around half or more of the victory maps, and these are a bit interesting: Minnesota appears more often than Pennsylvania, but in fairness Pennsylvania is rather definitively far out of Trump’s reach, whereas there is more uncertainty in Minnesota given slightly scanter polling.
More at 538, with what the map might have to look like to cough up a Trump victory:
Another wingnut: I don’t wear a flag pin either, I wear a Gold Star Family pin:
Hillary didn’t wear an American Flag Pin. Seem Familiar? Obama’s 3rd Term #NeverHillary #TrumpPence16 #debates pic.twitter.com/0X5MwquHNN
— Deplorable USA Lover (@EstherDixon1) October 20, 2016
@HillaryClinton not wearing 🇺🇸. Doesn’t want to offend her radical Islamic supporters. #VoteTrump #Patriot #GoldStarFamilies https://t.co/ctxHUVnloA
— Marie Sanders (@Marie_Kelly1124) October 20, 2016
@BSCWatson Yeah #RussiaGOPNominee stay on message! #GOPSabotage #GoldStarFamilies GOPArtificialPatriotism Will do until election Slogan time pic.twitter.com/5hn00VQjGX
— Linda Adedapo (@AdedapoLinda) October 20, 2016
Anthony Zurcher at the BBC eviscerates Mr. Trump’s performance:
He had to position himself as the change candidate - just days after a Fox poll showed that Hillary Clinton, whose party has held the presidency for eight years, was beating him on the question of who would “change the country for the better”.
Instead, after roughly half an hour of something resembling an actual policy debate about the Supreme Court, gun rights, abortion and even immigration, the old Donald Trump - the one who constantly interrupted his opponent, sparred with the moderator and lashed out at enemies real and perceived - emerged.
He called Mrs Clinton a liar and a “nasty woman”.
I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides. The mainstream American left being strongly anti-Putin is just great. So is seeing the likes of Greenwald, Snowden and Ass. either totally discredited or at least severely diminished in their eyes. The choices are clearer than never before.
re: #159 Nyet
I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides. The mainstream American left being strongly anti-Putin is just great. So is seeing the likes of Greenwald, Snowden and Ass. either totally discredited or at least severely diminished in their eyes. The choices are clearer than never before.
Well, presuming a Clinton victory on Election Day, the GOP will be faced with a choice in their post-election report:
a) Take up the 2008 and 2012 reports that both said they need to broaden their appeal to minorities, youth, &c, or
b) Move further right into irrelevance.
Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?
re: #159 Nyet
I’ve already written this once but it bears repeating. It’s sad (SAD!) that it has come to this kind of an election, the lowest of the low, but there is silver lining: people taking sides.
I noticed that a lot of people finally started to pay attention to how the US party primary system (if you can call it that) works (or fails to).
It came as a surprise when a lot of people who had registered independent showed up to vote for Bernie (who was an independent before he ran as a Democrat) showed up to vote in a closed primary and were not allowed.
There was no rigging or manipulation involved, the rules had long been in place.
re: #160 Anymouse
Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?
No. They have demonstrated that repeatedly.
I can’t wait for new updates to Sam Wang’s polling maps:
(Okay, so I am a numbers geek.)
Right now, Prof. Wang has Hillary Clinton at 273 safe electoral votes, 29 leaning, 32 barely.
In the barely column for Trump he has GA, SC, TX, IA, and AK; and Ohio as a toss-up.
Taking TX and GA away from the GOP would be a wonderful dream come true and an utter repudiation of them putting up a fascist for a nominee.
re: #159 Nyet
*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.
re: #164 Nyet
*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.
You need to do what we do here: Use a dial phone. /s
re: #160 Anymouse
Bobby said that and then tried to make it even stupider.
More from that BBC article:
Even the immigration discussion started reasonably civilly, until Clinton pivoted to turn a question about WikiLeaks into an attack on Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia and Vladimir Putin.
At that point, interrupting Trump returned. He called Hillary Clinton a liar and after she called him a Russian puppet, he said that was in fact her. By the time the topic turned to “fitness to be president,” the stage was set for a total meltdown. He said the women who has accused him of sexual harassment were in it for the fame and Clinton campaign stooges.
Perhaps most remarkable, however, was when moderator Chris Wallace asked Mr Trump to support the election results, no matter how they came out. He refused to do so. He accused the media of poisoning people’s minds. He said Mrs Clinton shouldn’t have been allowed to run for president. It was Mr Trump in a bunker, settling scores and lashing out at enemies real and perceived.
Brits don’t vote in our elections!!11!1uno2!!!eleventy!!2!1
re: #164 Nyet
*ever, but it’s next to impossible to edit something at LGF with my mobile phone, I get redirected to the main page when clicking on ding buttons, edit button etc.
I have the same problem.
Ohio may drop into the Democratic column:
A federal district court ruled Wednesday night that Ohio must allow […] anyone purged since 2011 as well as anyone who has moved within the same county will be able vote.
…Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State John Husted violated the National Voter Registration Act by purging nearly 2 million voters from its rolls over the past five years.
an observation two commenters made:
- “I dont know which headline is worse, grabbing women at will or refusing to accept the democratic will of the people.”
— “Both involve disregarding the will of people and violating their rights”
Watching Bill Kristol calling out Morning Joe for all the early tongue jacking of the Troompa-loompa, and Morning Joe trying to defend himself, while Mika sits there…I love the taste of their tears.
@DailyMail Delete your newspaper.
— Dr Aussie Jimbo (@WizardOfStraya) October 20, 2016
i saw a couple of pundit reviews that say trump won, somehow.
they were so disconnected they read like they were written before the debate actually happened.
re: #173 dangerman
i saw a couple of pundit reviews that say trump won, somehow.
they were so disconnected they read like they were written before the debate actually happened.
easily done since that outcome was clear from the very outset…
Today is international sloth day!
Meet baby Flash.
I hope she lives up to his name…
re: #160 Anymouse
Well, presuming a Clinton victory on Election Day, the GOP will be faced with a choice in their post-election report:
a) Take up the 2008 and 2012 reports that both said they need to broaden their appeal to minorities, youth, &c, or
b) Move further right into irrelevance.Ex-Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said the GOP needed to stop being the stupid party. Do they have it in ‘em?
they’ll commission a new autopsy. it will read “see previous report.”
Here’s your America Kinda Sucks But Kinda Not Entirely story for the day: An awful bigot in Minnesota has pleaded guilty to attacking a Somali woman with a beer mug last year, severely cutting her face, because the Somali woman had committed the unpardonable offense of speaking Swahili in the US Patriot lady’s presence. That’s the America Sucks Sometimes part. The Not Entirely part is that people who were as horrified as you and we are by the attack contributed over $10,000 to help the victim, Asma Mohamed Jama, and even the assailant’s own sister is disgusted by the crime: she came to court to support not her sister, but Ms. Jama.
More at Wonkette on the Somali immigrant hit in the face.
Apparently Madonna is pro Hillary!
Madonna is pledging to perform oral sex on voters who cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton.
The pop queen, known for her shocking antics, made the remark Tuesday while opening for comedian Amy Schumer in New York.
I hope she takes her teeth out
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re: #172 Anymouse
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still it must be said
shes projected at somewhere between 85-95% to win
trump has not once led electorally, not even one day
and somehow her “smile” is going to turn all that over?
delete your newspaper indeed
re: #178 Emptor scriptor Remorse
Apparently Madonna is pro Hillary!
I hope she takes her teeth out
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Katy Perry on Funny or Die said she would use her naked body as click bait to get people to go out and vote:
@JoeNBC as #Trump surrogate, apologist, “He never said he won’t accept result. #Media is making a leap!” @MSNBC #BoycottMorningJoe #debate
— Vanina (@superminkie) October 20, 2016
Well, I am off to bed. Something about sleep or something. Elbow hurts. Sun coming up. Cat demanding I get in bed so he can keep warm under the covers, that sort of thing.
G’night y’all (or is that good morning?)
re: #44 Dave In Austin
“Bad hombres” + “Nasty Women” = “An especially good time at the tavern tonight”
re: #181 Anymouse
Joe NBC as Trump surrogate, apologist, “He never said he won’t accept result. Media is making a leap!”
This is DT’s great strength: he does not speak in sentences, he speaks in Rorschach blobs that people can view however they want.
Kellyanne has aged 10 years in her time with the Trump campaign.
Great news! Leave for the election week was approved in spite of the fact that it’s a stocktake all-hands-on-deck week! Woot!
2/3rds through the debate and I’m feckin’ stoked :D
re: #186 dangerman
NYT, washington post, wall st journal, cnn, msnbc, reuters
i guess they all got it wrong and that only took 30 seconds
Dead Intern Joe is lashing out at the “elite media” while pretending he’s not part of this said elite media. He’s such a pathetic Trump cabana boy. He’s spent the entire week “outraged” how the media has treated orange hitler and his deplorable followers.
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio: “The words you heard from Donald Trump are what you expect from a third world dictator” https://t.co/U5FwBjMqzh
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) October 20, 2016
Donald Trump made 37 false claims at last night’s debate. #TrumpCheck pic.twitter.com/awzGUZ5wPX
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 20, 2016
“Little Trump” gives another unsettling debate performance (via @latimesopinion) https://t.co/rWCOBs4Lfj pic.twitter.com/ABgoXeLmuP
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) October 20, 2016
Didn’t know this. RNC is bound by consent to desist from “poll watching” activities, particularly in minority dists https://t.co/kSilJvr9av pic.twitter.com/w4CZV1GKzW
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) October 20, 2016
re: #184 Lancelot Link
“Bad hombres” + “Nasty Women” = “An especially good time at the tavern tonight”
2/3rds of a Marty Robbins song.
re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth
Didn’t know this. RNC is bound by consent to desist from “poll watching” activities, particularly in minority dists
For clarity: It’s only blocked from bogus “poll watching”. Real poll watching, with limited watchers certified by each party, is still the norm.
re: #195 Decatur Deb
For clarity: It’s only blocked from bogus “poll watching”. Real poll watching, with limited watchers certified by each party, is still the norm.
They mean “voter intimidation”, not “poll watching”.
And a few punch-ups in or near polling places will lead to big media f*ckfest and give them a great starting point for endless claims of irregularities, fraud and manipulation.
Which I expect to continue for weeks/months.
re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They mean “voter intimidation”, not “poll watching”.
And a few punch-ups in or near polling places will lead to big media f*ckfest and give them a great starting point for endless claims of irregularities, fraud and manipulation.
Which I expect to continue for weeks/months.
Yeah, but I didn’t want the (reporter’s?) use of the term to be widespread. If they pull any significant physical crap it will likely produce a lot of revulsion among the sane electorate.
Oh Twitter. You are so naughty! #TrumpBookReport
— Margaret E. Atwood (@MargaretAtwood) October 20, 2016
I’m telling you folks, if I were in charge, we wouldn’t have waited for Godot. I would’ve found him in 5 minutes. #Trumpbookreport
— Drea De Oro (@hartdrea7) October 20, 2016
Fuck, I get back to work today and find out my boss retired. I don’t think I can take another churn. Calgon take me away!
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Yeah, but I didn’t want the (reporter’s?) use of the term to be widespread. If they pull any significant physical crap it will likely produce a lot of revulsion among the sane electorate.
DT has already done a lot to rile up violent sentiment at his rallies, would not be surprised to see that some of his more “passionate” supporters turned to “extreme measures” to defend the rights they feel are being threatened.
re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
DT has already done a lot to rile up violent sentiment at his rallies, would not be surprised to see that some of his more “passionate” supporters turned to “extreme measures” to defend the rights they feel are being threatened.
Better now than later.
I can only think that HRC is holding the rape case of that 13yr old in her back pocket for the last week of the race if she needs it. I don’t think she will because I think this thing is all over except for the fat lady singing.
Knowing it’s over, the Trump family has a moment of silence to honor the death of #DonaldTrump’s candidacy for president. pic.twitter.com/9TYqfC0zg7
— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) October 20, 2016
Access Hollywood approaches Mark Cuban for an interview. He replies, “on a bus?” laughs, and then “let me get my tic tacs, hold on”
— Brianna Keilar (@brikeilarcnn) October 19, 2016
Actually, Donald Trump already accepted the outcome of the election; he wished Hillary good luck for her Presidency! https://t.co/WrdknepMLZ
— Zach Green (@zachjgreen) October 20, 2016
The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:
Trump: … Douglas MacArthur, George Patton spinning in their graves when they see the stupidity of our country. So we’re now fighting for mosul that we had. All she had to do is stay there. Now we’re going in to get it. But you know who is big winner in mosul is going to be after we eventually get it? And the only reason they did it is because she is running for the office of president, and they want to look tough. They want to look good.
He violated the red line in the sand. And he made so many mistakes. Made all mistakes. That’s why we have the great migration. But she wanted to look good for the election. So they’re going in.
Later on she calls him on it -
Clinton: … I’m just amazed that he seems to think that the Iraqi government and our allies and everybody else launched the attack on mosul to help me in this election. But that’s how Donald thinks, you know.
So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?
re: #212 BadgerB
The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:
Later on she calls him on it -
So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?
He thinks Wag the Dog was a documentary.
re: #205 Dr. Matt
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Unreal. Pathetic douche bags. Fuck this family.
I am starting to think that this entire campaign is one big attempt to make Mitt Romney’s kids look better in hindsight, it’s working.
Another moment in the debate last night that stood out for me was when Wallace asked the question about Aleppo and donald’s immediate response was to yell at Wallace: “Have you seen Aleppo? Have you SEEN Aleppo? HAVE YOU SEEN ALEPPO????”
To me that indicated that trump had heard the word “Aleppo” (perhaps as part of his “debate prep”) but had no clue as to what it meant. And he only called it a humanitarian crisis after Wallace said those words. From that point on, it was nothing but argle bargle.
re: #212 BadgerB
The blew my mind and but nobody else seemed to think it a big deal moment of the night:From the Vox Transcript:
Later on she calls him on it -
So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?
Says we’re not doing enough to combat ISIS, but when we do, it’s for the benefit of the D candidate for president, and not part of any overall strategy for the area. Right. Oh, and we should do a sneak attack! But we are too stupid to do it! All the generals say so!
This would be the #1 talker if not for #IllKeepYouInSuspense.
Having to navigate the various expectations placed before her, Clinton was controlled, prepared, forceful and spontaneous in just the right places. I was leaping out of my seat at nearly every falsehood Trump spouted whereas Clinton remained calm. I think the only behavioural coaching she’s needed was nodding whilst listening, which against Trump might be construed as assent. In this totally superficial sense she displayed control. Her responses, even while alluding to points made several questions before and therefore seemed to stray from the topic at hand, were focussed and ended up relevant.
I can’t critique her. I could actually see her, in her responses, debating a far abler opponent.
So when Trump opened his mouth, the distinction couldn’t have been more stark.
There were times when I could see the rudiments of a coaching effort in Trump’s responses but his ego wrecked any consistency and the point of one riposte would be dulled by his inability to remove himself from the equation.
It was a master-class of baiting and counter-striking that I often felt off-balance suddenly such was the sudden strength of even a little interjection, namely when Trump began to spruik one of his hotels offhandedly, as his wont, and Clinton needled him with his use of cheap Chinese steel.
Full marks. Clinton didn’t even dull her blade.
re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth
Another moment in the debate last night that stood out for me was when Wallace asked the question about Aleppo and donald’s immediate response was to yell at Wallace: “Have you seen Aleppo? Have you SEEN Aleppo? HAVE YOU SEEN ALEPPO????”
To me that indicated that trump had heard the word “Aleppo” (perhaps as part of his “debate prep”) but had no clue as to what it meant. And he only called it a humanitarian crisis after Wallace said those words. From that point on, it was nothing but argle bargle.
He was clearly trying to be seen to avoid the Johnson pitfall of ignorance.
re: #205 Dr. Matt
The Presidency would be a “step down” for DT in that he would no longer be the sole decision maker and unquestioned head of the entire operation of governing the USA.
He would have to negotiate and work within an establish system to accomplish things and would not have the option of just declaring bankruptcy and walking away from it all if it fails.
a commenter at redstate (my mouse slipped)
on trump:
“Even when he’s sedated to the point that his behavior isn’t acutely embarrassing he is painfully inept.”
re: #212 BadgerB
So the Republican candidate for President just charged that the timing of the attack on Mosul, the largest offensive action against ISIS to date, was scheduled to interfere with his Presidential campaign, and it wasn’t even note worthy moments enough to get a call out from the press?
The press itself would have to figure out what was happening there and then have the onerous task of explaining it to their audience. Forget it, let’s talk about Hillary’s panstuit.
re: #213 Decatur Deb
He thinks Wag the Dog was a documentary.
has anybody seen dustin hoffman lately?
THIS IS FINE
This Guy Casually Sat In A Starbucks During A Flood And Became A Huge Meme https://t.co/0Ikl9ixy6H pic.twitter.com/d0kVvJLAtc
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) October 20, 2016
HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.
re: #224 The Vicious Babushka
He’s become a local hero in Hong Kong, even though there were other customers there too.
re: #226 FormerDirtDart
When you lose the NYPost…..
re: #225 Great White Snark
HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.
That was amazing. Projection distilled to a sweet sweet syrup. And totally ineffective.
re: #225 Great White Snark
HRC had a ton of great moments. Trumps utterly best moment? “Not a puppet not a puppet” was actually his best line. Sad.
Right after he argued with Clinton *and* Wallace about Russian involvement in the elections. lol
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Looks like Trump fans are still doing their best to deny reality that Clinton engaged in what’s effectively a flawless victory against Trump last night.
Only slightly less gory than that video, but it should decidedly end all claims that Trump had any chance of a comeback with a strong 3d debate performance.
Trump continued lying about everything. Fact checkers are still catching up with the tsunami of Trump turd droppings.
And that doesn’t even get into the biggest issues of the night - Trump saying Hillary is a nasty woman under his breath as Clinton was talking, or that Trump wouldn’t abide by 240 years of history and accept the results (leave us all in suspense?).
Trump again shows why he’s spectacularly unqualified to be president, but that’s the same reason that his supporters love him. They love someone just as ignorant and bigoted as they are. They think that Trump will help them (mostly angry white guys who aren’t millionaires who inherited their fortunes) reverse the gains made by minorities to have equal rights at long last.
They mindlessly cheer @realDonaldTrump because they think their lot improves if rich people get richer and minorities lose rights.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 20, 2016
re: #226 FormerDirtDart
I LOLed in real life as he seemed to resign himself in slow motion to playing the buffoon in responding to that.
It was like, ‘this whole shitshow will have been worth it if I set the record straight on that.’
Whilst playing into his opponent’s hands!
re: #232 jeffreyw
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Not fair making me crave fish and chips at 8 in the morning!
one more from redstate - it’s scathing:
mareeder • 8 hours ago
I don’t care if you lower the bar to China; I don’t see any way in Hell Donald Trump “won” any portion of this debate. Even on those occasions when he was actually right on the issues, such as the court, the second amendment and abortion, he was so inarticulate, incoherent and woefully uniformed that he lost the argument. That irks me even more; by his mere association with these conservative principles he degrades and discredits them.
The rest of the time, particularly on any question remotely touching on foreign policy, he was as wacky as a loon and couldn’t even form complete sentences. He got his ample butt handed to him on hiring foreign workers, using Chinese steel and failing to pay income taxes, and he continued to play Mortimer Snerd to Putin’s Edgar Bergen.
Stylistically there were times when my wife and I thought we were actually watching Alec Baldwin rather than the real Donald Trump. You could tell that from about 30 minutes in she had succeeded in getting under his skin to the point that he was seething and could not control himself; from the shouted interruptions, to the leaning into the microphone and saying “wrong” (usually when she had quoted him accurately), and that last, “such a nasty woman” business; the latter objection provoked by her second reference to his failure to pay income taxes, a point he had already conceded.
Then he tops it all off by refusing to say he will accept the results of the election (or more precisely teasing whether he will; probably to get one big final audience for his new Trump TV launch). Never mind the fact that he is also going to get killed by fact checkers tomorrow. He didn’t just lose this debate — he got run over by a diesel truck.
maybe i shoulda bolded the whole thing?
Mini-Drumpf never stops:
Duterte says U.S. has lost, aligns Philippines with China
[…]
“America has lost now,” Duterte told Chinese and Philippine business people at a forum in the Great Hall of the People, attended by Chinese Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli.
“I’ve realigned myself in your ideological flow and maybe I will also go to Russia to talk to (President Vladimir) Putin and tell him that there are three of us against the world - China, Philippines and Russia. It’s the only way,” he added.
[…]
She looks like a President, and he looks like the kind of guy the Secret Service keeps away from Presidents.#debatenight
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 20, 2016
re: #232 jeffreyw
What sort of fish is that? Suddenly dying of hunger.
re: #239 dangerman
Pretty awesome, even as telltale signs of “Conservatism has never failed, it has only been failed” begin to creep in.
re: #240 freetoken
Mini-Drumpf never stops:
When is Obama announcing the suspension of the $120,000,000 in military aid a year?
re: #240 freetoken
Have fun with your South China Sea territorial arbitration lolol
The Now-Cast and the Polls-Only Cast at 538 are now identical—86.2%.
re: #240 freetoken
Mini-Drumpf never stops:
Mark my words, Duterte and the Philippines people will regret any alliance with China. They will end up as a satellite state.
This man just broke the speed pie-eating record in a Russian competition https://t.co/wpQui5kSUd
— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 20, 2016
Last night’s debate looked like a contest between a person who’d been preparing her whole life and some guy they just found on the street
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 20, 2016
re: #235 Joe Bacon
ROTFLMAO! Somebody hijacked a Dilbert strip from Trumpette Scott Adams!
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Outstanding 3 for 3 debate sweep for @HillaryClinton! Nobody has ever been more prepared to be @POTUS.
— President Obama (@POTUS) October 20, 2016
re: #115 Ziggy_TARDIS
Bad day for space exploration:
ET’s are tired of the invasion of their space and are fighting back?
re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth
Rage Furby/WeSearchr tweeted something to the effect that Clinton had been preparing 30 years to be president and Trump only 1. His point was unclear, however.
Donald Trump confuses birth with abortion and no, there are no ninth month abortions https://t.co/kfv1rjrM2v pic.twitter.com/XrI4RjysMc
— Jennifer Gunter (@DrJenGunter) October 20, 2016
@mckaycoppins @KagroX He won’t be a ‘normal loser’. He’ll be the best loser you ever saw. You’ll never get tired of seeing him lose.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 20, 2016
re: #253 Eventual Carrion
ET’s are tired of the invasion of their space and are fighting back?
Maybe it’s not just Europa that’s off limits now. Probably gonna build a wall around us to protect the rest of the galaxy.
I haven’t seen two people respect each other like that since I accidentally sat through an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta. #debate
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) October 20, 2016
I’m just glad I don’t have to see them debate again…
re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Have any of the Obama presidency books covered his relationship with Hillary Clinton? I’ve been curious for awhile if there’s a genuine friendship there or not…
re: #239 dangerman
From the Redstater you quote:
I don’t care if you lower the bar to China; I don’t see any way in Hell Donald Trump “won” any portion of this debate. Even on those occasions when he was actually right on the issues, such as the court, the second amendment and abortion, he was so inarticulate, incoherent and woefully uniformed that he lost the argument. That irks me even more; by his mere association with these conservative principles he degrades and discredits them.
How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense. Oh, I guess if you’re anti-abortion, and your position is abortion is wrong, how you get there or justify it doesn’t actually matter. Gotcha.
But the reality is that the abortion issue and the 2A question reveal that Trump has zero understanding of the Supreme Court, how the law works, and how policy is done in the US. Saying that stuff gets left to the states if Roe is overturned ignores how that actually plays out - and that there’s a whole lot of court decisions that would end up with the matter right back at the Court (because under the law you can’t have split of authority among the circuits).
It also ignores that Trump’s line about how you can get an abortion up to a few days before the baby could be born. This ignores how biology actually works, and if the mother is in that situation, it’s called childbirth.
Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.
And it’s not like Trump is an outlier on abortion in respect to the GOP. This is core doctrine. He’s just more explicit about things.
re: #115 Ziggy_TARDIS
Bad day for space exploration:
Safe mode? Great…now someone has to fly out there with a shitload of floppy disks and reset the BIOS.
re: #248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Mark my words, Duterte and the Philippines people will regret any alliance with China. They will end up as a satellite state.
So, you’re saying he ought to go with Putin instead!
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
How do they exchange information with each other and the central polling register?
In my area of PA the votes are collected on storage devices (looks like an 8-track cartridge) on the polling machine and also on a SIM chip on each individual machine. At the end of the night the machines are closed down and the votes are collected on the cartridges. The cartridges and other pertinent paperwork are sealed (by the judge of elections, of which I served as for 4 years). The sealed package is then delivered to a municipal building where sheriff’s transport them to the county courthouse to the election officials. They are then tabulated there on another machine. I don’t worry so much about the actual poll machines as I am about the central tabulation machine. Only one machine to get to rather than hundreds of poll machines.
And here’s a Clinton mic drop: https://t.co/O4GBElc0J3 pic.twitter.com/1FscTdLE77
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) October 20, 2016
re: #142 Dave In Austin
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“That Gatsby, he was great.”
h/t to the late, great Rodney Dangerfield
re: #265 The Vicious Babushka
Trump & Clinton mic drops with animation? OMG That’s so awesome! —said no one, ever.
I’ll be glad when 2017 comes around and ‘mic drop’ takes it’s proper place on the junk pile of forgotten expressions.
One of my favorite parts of the debate last night was Hillary accusing Trump of espionage - talk about a not too subtle payback for the ‘you’ll be in jail’ comment from the last debate. She doesn’t let any slight go unanswered. Remember that.
re: #268 darthstar
One of my favorite parts of the debate last night was Hillary accusing Trump of espionage - talk about a not too subtle payback for the ‘you’ll be in jail’ comment from the last debate. She doesn’t let any slight go unanswered. Remember that.
Here’s the quote, just in case anyone assumed I was full of shit:
Clinton: Well, that’s because he would rather have a puppet as president of the United States.
Trump: No puppet. You’re the puppet.
Clinton: It is pretty clear you won’t admit that the Russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the United States of America. That you encouraged espionage against our people. That you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do. And that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We’ve never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.Read more: politico.com
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Fuck…gotta leave early for work today. BBL. Maybe…fucking busy with four projects on my shoulders right now and everyone wants their shit yesterday.
re: #269 darthstar
Here’s the quote, just in case anyone assumed I was full of shit:
Oh yeah, I saw her do that to him. The fucking asshole thinks he knows more than the intelligence agencies.
re: #269 darthstar
She wasn’t accusing him of engaging in espionage. She was accusing him of being a traitor. Heh.
re: #271 HappyWarrior
Oh yeah, I saw her do that to him. The fucking asshole thinks he knows more than the intelligence agencies.
He also said that the intelligence agencies didn’t know anything.
re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth
He also said that the intelligence agencies didn’t know anything.
Of course but he’s happy to constantly throw out the 200 generals and admirals that support him whenever his knowledge of military matters is questioned.
“Trump spun an abortion stance so removed from the reality…that it read like abortion fan fiction.” https://t.co/ycGagdTse7
— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) October 20, 2016
Steve McPherson @steventurous
“We’re gonna catch so much rye, you won’t believe it. We’re bringing those rye catching jobs to America.” #TrumpBookReport @AntonioFrench
re: #276 Skip Intro
There are so many vanities. It was a bonfire. The biggest. The worst ever bonfire. #TrumpBookReport
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 20, 2016
Alice is hot. Maybe in ten years I will be dating her. Just grab her by the Cheshire Cat. Make Wonderland Great Again! #TrumpBookReport
re: #260 lawhawk
How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense.
By accident.
I once won a “guess how many jelly beans in the jar” contest. My winning strategy was… not something that would be in any way useful to next year’s contestants.
Say it aint so Sheriff Joe
Non-partisan poll from AZ Republic/Cronkite News/Behavior Research Center has Sheriff Joe Arpaio down 46-31 https://t.co/KuuQId3BUK
— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) October 20, 2016
Hillary’s final statement actually sounded like what a president would say. Trumps was like your drunk uncle at a BBQ
#debatenight— Gregory Peters (@GregoryPeters95) October 20, 2016
I’ve watched Trump at three debates now. It’s always the same sad crap. I’m great. Our coutnry sucks. Hillary sucks because she hasn’t been able to accomplish everything she’s wanted to in her career. I am to be trusted on military matters because 200 generals/admirals endorsed me and so did some CMOH winners. Generals MacArthur and Patton are spinning in their graves. Our leaders are stupid. Really. This guy is a fucking joke and in a sane world would lose every single state in this country but nope.
Donald Trump spoke for just under 36 minutes last night, according to CNN. So he said about one false thing every minute.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 20, 2016
#TrumpBookReport That MacDuff, he was a late term abortion, ripped from the womb!
— (((Beelzebabushka))) (@viciousbabushka) October 20, 2016
re: #280 lawhawk
Say it aint so Sheriff Joe
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Very frequently through this campaign we’ve said “Wow, these campaign ads just write themselves.” Well, that quite literally happened last night. These are almost verbatim responses.
No need to keep you in suspense… Donald Trump’s answer here is a threat to our democracy. pic.twitter.com/n1PDlIbGul
— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) October 20, 2016
When Hillary Clinton was working at the Children’s Defense Fund, Donald Trump was…not doing that. pic.twitter.com/LGRMWjWTUP
— The Briefing (@TheBriefing2016) October 20, 2016
re: #242 Alyosha
What sort of fish is that? Suddenly dying of hunger.
That’s cod, I was going for as authentic as I knew how. Alas, my understanding of the dish comes from cooking shows and movies rather than personal experience.
good grief
@BarbinMD Beware stupid bitch has stolen your twitter password and is posting idiotic tweets #libtard
— Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) October 20, 2016
Karl Rove compares Trump’s refusal accept election results to Bush v. Gore 2000 https://t.co/khOli2i69Y pic.twitter.com/vodk7owwI7
— Craig Harrington (@Craigipedia) October 20, 2016
The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.
Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?
Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.
That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.
re: #288 Franklin
Very frequently through this campaign we’ve said “Wow, these campaign ads just write themselves.” Well, that quite literally happened last night. These are almost verbatim responses.
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Great ads. I’m impressed with how quick they are. She’s got a great team around her.
re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Maybe it’s not just Europa that’s off limits now. Probably gonna build a wall around us to protect the rest of the galaxy.
A big wall! A beautiful wall! And they’ll make sure WE pay for it!!!
Another point (assuming there ever was one) that I noticed has gotten lost in the backwash from last night’s shitshow was: what was the purpose of Trump’s inviting Pat Smith, Malik Obama, et. al. to the debate. Other than generating some Internet buzz, which seems to have had the usual effect (i.e. squat). I know he mentioned the “Angel Moms” once, but otherwise nothing. The Donald didn’t even bother to exploit the poor chumps in a presser (unless I missed it).
re: #260 lawhawk
your analysis is spot on, of course.
they dont think this critically. they sift for buzz words, dog whistles, or other telegraphs or tells, and then just check off that box as done.
trump says “no” and “abortion” in same sentence. close enough for me
re: #291 lawhawk
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The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.
Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?
Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.
That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.
Such bullshit and Turdblossom knows it.
re: #261 darthstar
Safe mode? Great…now someone has to fly out there with a shitload of floppy disks and reset the BIOS.
when was it launched? do they need 5”, 8” or will 3.5” work?
re: #291 lawhawk
No, Trump isn’t doing what Gore did in 2000. Via @NickBaumann https://t.co/mN38Cd0EiC
— Jonathan Cohn (@CitizenCohn) October 20, 2016
Bush sued Gore, not the other way around. As others have pointed out, that’s why it’s Bush v. Gore. https://t.co/KF7lEoNhIb
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) October 20, 2016
re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth
good grief
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— Bad Hombre Bartleby (@the_scrivener) October 20, 2016
re: #282 HappyWarrior
I’ve watched Trump at three debates now. It’s always the same sad crap. I’m great. Our coutnry sucks. Hillary sucks because she hasn’t been able to accomplish everything she’s wanted to in her career. I am to be trusted on military matters because 200 generals/admirals endorsed me and so did some CMOH winners. Generals MacArthur and Patton are spinning in their graves. Our leaders are stupid. Really. This guy is a fucking joke and in a sane world would lose every single state in this country but nope.
you hold back too much
re: #285 The Vicious Babushka
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#TrumpBookReport That MacDuff, he was a late term abortion, ripped from the womb
the crime dog?
(no dont correct me)
@RogerJStoneJr Coming from an ass who believes that the moon landings were faked in a New Jersey studio…
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) October 20, 2016
The claims that voter fraud is real because dead people are still on the polls is absolute crap too. I’ve worked for a Congressional office before. We still had dead constituents on our mailing list. It’s something that needs to be worked on obviously but it’s not proof that the dead are voting as Rudy Giuliani, Kayleigh, and Trump’s other surrogates desperately want to convince Trump’s delusional base.
There was War, so much war. Like I will bring. And Peace, so great. #TrumpBookReport
re: #300 dangerman
the crime dog?
(no dont correct me)
Hehe, there’s a road in my county, McDuff Road, and I always misread it as McGruff.
Roger is too STONED to think in a rational matter…
re: #291 lawhawk
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The refuge of the Trump nuts trying to defend Trump’s statement on refusing to accept the outcome of the election is Bush/Gore 2000.
Let’s revisit that one shall we? Which candidate won the popular vote? Which one needed the Supreme Court to decide how a state could run its recount process because they completely botched things? Who ultimately respected the outcome of both the Supreme Court case and the electoral college vote?
Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.
That’s an apples to unicorns comparison. And media types trying to make the analogy should have their credentials revoked for simply getting the facts and circumstances wrong.
further - neither candidate, nor anyone else really that i recall, claimed that election was “rigged”. and certainly not while the process was unfolding
poorly supervised, designed, counted, recounted, yeah.
rigged? i dont remember that
re: #301 Joe Bacon
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@RogerJStoneJr Coming from an ass who believes that the moon landings were faked in a New Jersey studio…
look, everyone knows that’s bullshit.
the studio was in the desert
Capricorn One—the first manned mission to Mars—is on the launch pad. The bewildered crew of Brubaker (James Brolin), Willis (Sam Waterston), and Walker (O. J. Simpson) are removed from Capricorn One and flown to an abandoned desert base
oh, stone is going on about the moon
sorry, yeah he’s just an ass then
re: #305 Joe Bacon
Roger is too STONED to think in a rational matter…
He’s stoned from the government chemtrails!!
re: #260 lawhawk
Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.
The RWNJ tenets of faith on abortion:
1) abortions are for lascivious sluts seeking to escape the just consequences (i.e.punishment) for their sluttish behavior
2) all abortions are about ripping screaming babies from their mother, cutting them up and selling the pieces for a profit to pay for new sports cars
Abortions don’t happen at nine months. Maybe this is why men who don’t understand reproduction shouldn’t be allowed to regulate it?
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) October 20, 2016
Running for president is a “step down” from Donald Trump’s business career, his son says https://t.co/hJy015P6V3 pic.twitter.com/3dQHNDFyZr
— CNN (@CNN) October 20, 2016
Yup pic.twitter.com/vDf6G8bRmZ
— Chris Cillizza (@TheFix) October 20, 2016
Why is this so terrifying, why can’t I stop watching it https://t.co/z19OIeLxY7
— Jessica Winter (@winterjessica) October 20, 2016
re: #291 lawhawk
Trump ignores all of that and goes straight to the election being rigged against him and then leaving people wondering if he’d ever concede.
Their tactic is simple: they will insist and offer spurious and easily refuted “proof” that Hillary, despite her margin of victory, did not win fair and square and therefore her presidency is invalid.
They are just softening things up by uttering “rigged” over and over again so as to provide the necessary bias for confirmation.
re: #311 FormerDirtDart
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re: #109 Nyet
I didn’t think the voting machines are connected to the internet?
The machines are not connected to the internet but they are card driven. And the last election showed that it was easy to slip a card into the machines. There were multiple reports on the news about machine manipulation in 2012.
This doesn’t have to happen across the country, but in key battleground places.
It’s not something that keeps me up at night, but it does worry me.
re: #110 Ziggy_TARDIS
And I would feel better if there was a paper trail on all electronic voting machines.
re: #311 FormerDirtDart
Running for president is a “step down” from Donald Trump’s business career, his son says
True, because a President has to negotiate and compromise, he can issue executive orders but must nonetheless work with an existing system of checks and balances. That is not DT’s style at all, nor would he easily adapt to it.
I would go as far to say the Supreme Court was stacked for Bush in 2000 but I don’t think the election itself was rigged.
re: #301 Joe Bacon
@ RogerJStoneJr Coming from an ass who believes that the moon landings were faked in a New Jersey studio…
Could someone please introduce him to Buzz Aldrin?
re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg
I would go as far to say the Supreme Court was stacked for Bush in 2000 but I don’t think the election itself was rigged.
Rigged would imply that the outcome was decided long before the election. I don’t like what happened in 2000 but rigged it wasn’t. To be honest, while I’ve come to respect Gore as an elder statesman, I’m still disappointed with how he campaigned in 2000. That said, there was a lot of bullshit about how Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and stupid shit like that.
The stupid thing is if Trump wins handily he will claim the election is not rigged even though that’s a pretty damn clear sign it was.
I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.
re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg
I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.
I want to be as badass as him at MY age :)
re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg
I want be as badass as him when I’m that age.
He’s such a cool dude. My elementary school was named after Neil but a nearby one was named after Buzz and he visited the school a couple times. He’s also appeared on the Simpsons. He just has fun with his celebrity. He really is one of our country’s finest living legends.
re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth
wow…just wow.
Yeah, that’s definitely not an “I kicked her ass” expression…
re: #325 Franklin
I want to be as badass as him at MY age :)
Me too. The man’s old enough to be my grandpa but so much cooler than I am. Of course, anyone who’s been an astronaut is but Buzz is really really.
My modest suggestion for the 2020 presidential debates: Adopt the format used in the Eisenhower-Stevenson campaign.
— Jeff Jacoby (@Jeff_Jacoby) October 20, 2016
Slightly different from my reform plan:
“Thunderdome” https://t.co/ChGXOyfrde— Michael Graham (@IAMMGraham) October 20, 2016
re: #321 HappyWarrior
I’m still disappointed with how he campaigned in 2000. That said, there was a lot of bullshit about how Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet and stupid shit like that.
Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…
NEW: GOP must defund and disavow Trump so he is denied chance to keep us “in suspense” and further subvert democracy pic.twitter.com/q2gvPAgq9P
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 20, 2016
re: #327 FormerDirtDart
Yeah, that’s definitely not an “I kicked her ass” expression…
That piece of paper in his hands…yowser!
re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…
Oh I know. It’s too bad really because I think both guys would have made good Presidents. Not nearly as charismatic as Obama but intelligent and capable guys. There’s a reason why Obama made Kerry his SoS.
Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:
Happy to see consensus in the media on last night’s debate. Outside of shills like Morning Joke, everybody clearly sees that Trump got his ass handed to him yet again. I can’t wait to see the next round of polls.
And in local news here on LI - Nassau County executive Ed Mangano and his wife were arrested this morning on bribery charges.
It ain’t even noon yet, and it’s already a pretty good day.
re: #331 Belafon
What’s in the picture?
it’s gif of Trump basically cringing as he tears his notes from a pad at the end of the debate. As Clinton walked over to shake Chis Wallace’s hand.
re: #332 FormerDirtDart
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painted him into a corner
re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Gore and Kerry were just not likable people, and that was visible in the way that negative statements stuck to them. The GOP tried the same approach with Obama, but he is to most people (except the most irascible bigots) a genuinely affable and admirable person, and the mud just slid right off him…
Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.
re: #316 MsJ
The machines are not connected to the internet but they are card driven. And the last election showed that it was easy to slip a card into the machines. There were multiple reports on the news about machine manipulation in 2012.
This doesn’t have to happen across the country, but in key battleground places.
It’s not something that keeps me up at night, but it does worry me.
Traditional Republican “election-rigging” is all about who gets to vote in the first place. Purging the rolls, misallocation of machines, weird ID laws.
I’m also a fan of the show “Scandal”. They were able to rig that election by rigging machines, but it was only workable because it was so super-close that everything came down to one county in Ohio. This year isn’t going to be anywhere near close enough to be stealable.
re: #336 makeitstop
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Drumpfskind has been doing pretty well with his base. We shouldn’t overlook that. Why the Rasmussen poll has for a week now been drifting in Drumpfskind’s favor is a bit of an outlier, but not something to ignore.
re: #336 makeitstop
Happy to see consensus in the media on last night’s debate. Outside of shills like Morning Joke, everybody clearly sees that Trump got his ass handed to him yet again. I can’t wait to see the next round of polls.
And in local news here on LI - Nassau County executive Ed Mangano and his wife were arrested this morning on bribery charges.
It ain’t even noon yet, and it’s already a pretty good day.
Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.
re: #342 sagehen
Traditional Republican “election-rigging” is all about who gets to vote in the first place. Purging the rolls, misallocation of machines, weird ID laws.
I’m also a fan of the show “Scandal”. They were able to rig that election by rigging machines, but it was only workable because it was so super-close that everything came down to one county in Ohio. This year isn’t going to be anywhere near close enough to be stealable.
for sane people.
for anyone else, her large lead everywhere is proof of manipulation
see: re: #335 freetoken
Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:
The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.
Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.
But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.
But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.
re: #335 freetoken
Wingnuts are touting the latest Rasmussen tracking poll which shows Drumpfskind pulling ahead of Clinton by 3 points:
Yeah, that’s pretty strange, even though Rasmussen has been biased R in the past.
re: #340 makeitstop
Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.
He still got more votes than Bush, but the blowup over deporting young Elian Gonzales really cost him in Florida.
re: #351 freetoken
Still looking for that angle, aren’t you?
re: #340 makeitstop
Don’t forget that Gore ran from Clinton. That sealed the deal. A monumentally stupid move.
Yeah that’s what I mean. I also think Lieberman was a bad VP pick too. The Dems have gotten better with that though since Obama chose Biden and now Hillary chose Kaine. Edwards seemed like a good idea in 2004 but he proved to be a bad pick IMO even without the scandal that brought him down later.
re: #352 Sir John Barron
Well, the wingnuts are also touting that IBD poll which now has Drumpfskind up by 1, as it has for some time:
WAPO GIVES TRUMP WIN - Trump won the third debate - The Washington Post https://t.co/fRoBmtB7iR
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 20, 2016
LOLOLOLOL!
It’s an op-ed by RWNJ Ed Rogers.
Another angle of #312
with music added…
@TheFix https://t.co/xxCeCepHSd when you know the notes you had just didn’t help! Stayed up ALL night for nothing! #nevertrump
— PATY (@patysq73) October 20, 2016
re: #357 freetoken
Well, the wingnuts are also touting that IBD poll which now has Drumpfskind up by 1, as it has for some time:
Trump has never been ahead electorally. Not for one day.
re: #356 HappyWarrior
Yeah that’s what I mean. I also think Lieberman was a bad VP pick too. The Dems have gotten better with that though since Obama chose Biden and now Hillary chose Kaine. Edwards seemed like a good idea in 2004 but he proved to be a bad pick IMO even without the scandal that brought him down later.
I did not like Gore, but I really disliked Lieberman. Nothing to do with his religion, I just found him a sanctimonious little prick.
re: #360 dangerman
Trump has never been ahead electorally. Not for one day.
So, you’re saying that Clinton is going to steal the election from Drumpfskind because the Democratically controlled electoral college is doing Soros’ bidding, aren’t you?
re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s an op-ed by RWNJ Ed Rogers.
Sure. For 20 minutes
he wasn’t totallyt abhorrent for 20 minutes
What stamina. What endurance poise self control. Gah
re: #345 Sir John Barron
Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.
Yeah, I’m scratching my head over that, too.
I take it as some convoluted consideration of viewers and ratings. Scarborough must have seen some kind of ratings glitch after regaining his senses and lost them again as a business move. That’s the best explanation I can figure.
re: #362 freetoken
So, you’re saying that Clinton is going to steal the election from Drumpfskind because the Democratically controlled electoral college is doing Soros’ bidding, aren’t you?
I must’ve spelled it all wrong
re: #351 freetoken
The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.
Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.
But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.
But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.
The right wing has pinned Clinton with missing emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, Vince Foster, Bill’s affairs, dead Haitians. None of them have any credibility or even factual basis, but it’s enough for ill-informed voters to conclude there’s something up, and they don’t trust her. At least one member of my family is convinced that Hillary will shatter the nation and begin a war with Russia, and he hates her with the heat of a thousand stars.
Add to that the Wikileaks BS, which is just a massive data dump with no real scandal contained within, and you’ve got more than enough to short out the brain circuits of the average, apolitical voter.
Yet, they practically worship a guy who has so many credible, factually based skeletons in his closet that he needs a warehouse to store them all. Why? Because he says what they want to hear, and because he’s not Hillary Clinton.
The GOP could have run an actual orangutan, and it would have still gained support from all the Hillary Haters.
The jokes…they just write themselves:
She is a cheat in every way pic.twitter.com/FA71L7XVcU
— Deplorable Deb🇺🇸 (@Dwagner2465) October 20, 2016
Where is Trump’s light? https://t.co/3QFgFOkdXv
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 20, 2016
re: #364 makeitstop
Yeah, I’m scratching my head over that, too.
I take it as some convoluted consideration of viewers and ratings. Scarborough must have seen some kind of ratings glitch after regaining his senses and lost them again as a business move. That’s the best explanation I can figure.
A job at Trump TV?
re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I did not like Gore, but I really disliked Lieberman. Nothing to do with his religion, I just found him a sanctimonious little prick.
Yeah it was a bad pick.
If these wikileaks came out in the primary, she still would have won. There is nothing to these emails other than the Russians are trying to mess in our elections. This won’t hurt her one bit.
re: #284 FormerDirtDart
That looks really cool.
re: #353 dangerman
i still got an accent?
Jeez, I could like heah it from heah, even!
When I was in HS and working on the school newspaper, our printer was in Freeport. We came down from the Nort’ Shaw for the paste-up.
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Why didn’t Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
re: #351 freetoken
The whole wikileaks thing may be damaging Clinton.
Not that people really understand what is going on. I’m snobby enough to write that I suspect many Americans really don’t know what is going with wikileaks. The real story is entangled in intrigue that takes a lot of work to follow.
But the contents of the stolen email messages, while I find them pretty mundane, can be spun real easily, to make Clinton look bad. If a competent Republican was running I suspect Clinton would be the one whose campaign we would speak of as over.
But Drumpfskind is not a competent politician, he’s a reality TV star who only knows how to work his marks.
Any damage is negligible at best, and confined to Bernie dead-enders and Trump cultists who desperately want something evil to be true.
When one of the featured emails is John Podesta’s tips on making fluffy risotto, it’s safe to assume that the hackers have gone to the well once too often.
Besides - Trump slit his own throat last night with the refusal to concede if he loses. Those lame emails are not even being mentioned today.
re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So Wallace was in on it?
Drumpf is now whining, yet again, that Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time last night.
I think he has said this after each of the three debates.
re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth
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He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.
re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth
The jokes…they just write themselves:
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— Kim Zang (@Purrrnella59) October 20, 2016
He’s going nuts.
Why didn’t Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
Pres Obama (that’s him in the shades) waves as he boards Air Force One for flight to Miami for ObamaCare speech & Clinton rally. pic.twitter.com/onBTyDSzZm
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 20, 2016
re: #378 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.
Obviously that’s cheating. //
re: #381 goddamnedfrank
He’s going nuts.
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He sure whines a lot for somebody who claims he won.
If Hillary did get the questions in advance, why on fucking earth would she announce it??
I mean, he’s just so fucking stupid.
It’s a toss up between who complains more. Him or his idiot cult.
re: #372 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Jeez, I could like heah it from heah, even!
When I was in HS and working on the school newspaper, our printer was in Freeport. We came down from the Nort’ Shaw for the paste-up.
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I meant “southern” accent
The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)
re: #376 Sir John Barron
Drumpf is now whining, yet again, that Hillary got the debate questions ahead of time last night.
I think he has said this after each of the three debates.
How possibly else could she sound so smart?
re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth
He sure whines a lot for somebody who claims he won.
Because he knows he didn’t win and no amount of online polling will change that. He’s such a toddler. Alpha male? Yeah if your idea of a tough guy is a pampered brat who doesn’t think he needs to prepare for debates and cries like a baby whenever someone does better than him. Real tough guy you got there Trump supporters.
re: #381 goddamnedfrank
He’s going nuts.
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Does Drumpf mean that Hillary got the debate topics ahead of time? Like when Fox announced publicly what the debate topics would be?
/
But Trump had many great guests at the debate. The best guests. Believe me.
re: #389 HappyWarrior
Because he knows he didn’t win and no amount of online polling will change that. He’s such a toddler. Alpha male? Yeah if your idea of a tough guy is a pampered brat who doesn’t think he needs to prepare for debates and cries like a baby whenever someone does better than him. Real tough guy you got there Trump supporters.
While also mocking the person who does study for the test.
re: #381 goddamnedfrank
He’s going nuts.
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Why didn’t Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary.
yeah. cause when i cheat i always “announce” it
I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.
Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.
When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.
re: #387 dangerman
I meant “southern” accent
The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)
When I first moved here from Philly, Islanders wold make fun of my Philly accent - and when I went back to visit Philly my friends would make fun of my Noo Yawk accent. That was a weird time.
Having lived here for over 35 years now, I believe my accent has moved completely to the Noo Yawk side.
DON’T LOOK INTO THE LIGHT!!!!
Look at the angle of Hillary’s gaze. She is NOT looking down at her notes, she is looking AT the lit panel. pic.twitter.com/sl3eZEP5b8
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 20, 2016
re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.
Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.
When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.
…by your own party
and corrected constantly, by your own party
re: #395 makeitstop
When I first moved here from Philly, Islanders wold make fun of my Philly accent - and when I went back to visit Philly my friends would make fun of my Noo Yawk accent. That was a weird time.
Having lived here for over 35 years now, I believe my accent has moved completely to the Noo Yawk side.
It’s funny how accents change. My cousin has been living in the UK about a decade now. She definitely has a slight British accent.
The CPD provided both nominees with the topics. It’s up to each to prepare. @realDonaldTrump didn’t. It showed. @HillaryClinton prepared.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 20, 2016
re: #387 dangerman
I meant “southern” accent
The Lon guyland thing never goes away
I still ask for wauduh when I’m thirsty. (so I’m told)
Despite years living away from d’Island, I still say “duawg” and “luaw” sometimes. I catch myself when I’m teaching English classes slipping in some NYawkisms, and point them out to my students as an example of regional variations.
Kristol must be mad at Drumpfskind because of the latter’s love for Putin:
Bill Kristol battles ‘Morning Joe’ on Trump coverage
Bill Kristol sparred with MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski Thursday, accusing the “Morning Joe” hosts of treating Donald Trump gently.
“This show was really tough on Trump in late 2015 and early 2016,” he said sarcastically on the pair’s broadcast that morning.
“We were,” Scarborough responded to Kristol, the founder and editor of The Weekly Standard.
“Oh fine,” retorted Kristol, a leading figure of the “Never Trump” movement. “If that’s your way of rewriting history.”
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re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’m going to bed now, ‘cause morning classes, but I’ll leave this thought for y’all to kick around.
Has there ever been a candidate so widely mocked and ridiculed by so many people as Trump? I mean, people poked fun at W for being dumb and an “empty hat,” but IIRC it was not as widespread or as public as the shit Trump is getting.
When your standard bearer is a complete joke to everyone else, maybe it’s time to reflect on how to prevent that from happening again.
At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.
Oh look, another woman corroborating what Donald Trump said about his behavior towards women.
LIVE now: Attorney Gloria Allred and woman accusing @realDonaldTrump of sexual misconduct LINK: https://t.co/fD4qSPD4lL pic.twitter.com/70IyFTPjH2
— Fox5NY (@fox5ny) October 20, 2016
re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth
At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.
GWB wasn’t a racist either. I think he exploited his base’s homophobia to win the 2004 election but I don’t think he was racially prejudiced.
re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth
At least, for a lot of people, GWB was a guy you wouldn’t mind having a beer with.
Trump’s the kind of guy you’d assume would slip something into your drink.
And charge for it
re: #402 freetoken
Kristol must be mad at Drumpfskind because of the latter’s love for Putin:
Morning Joke is almost as bad as Hannity at times.
BREAKING: Judge orders Virginia voter registration reopened and extended to Friday midnight due to website failure. More to come
— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) October 20, 2016
re: #401 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Despite years living away from d’Island, I still say “duawg” and “luaw” sometimes. I catch myself when I’m teaching English classes slipping in some NYawkisms, and point them out to my students as an example of regional variations.
The more relaxed I am, the more I slip into a country drawl. It wouldn’t be that bad if it was a Southern accent, but I sound like a hick.
re: #399 HappyWarrior
It’s funny how accents change. My cousin has been living in the UK about a decade now. She definitely has a slight British accent.
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
At times, Donald Trump seemed to be imitating Alec Baldwin on “Saturday Night Live,” writes our chief TV critic https://t.co/m1kPtEvYha pic.twitter.com/qQ3BuSOdrx
— The New York Times (@nytimes) October 20, 2016
@mitchellvii How about this snapshot in time with no other context. Fair comparison? pic.twitter.com/G5goEZokRJ
— Franklin (@franklinftw) October 20, 2016
re: #412 makeitstop
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
One of the commentators on WTOP was joking about that and Bernie Sanders’ accent. Something like, “Even if you’ve spent only a day in Brooklyn, you’ll come back talking like you’ve spent your whole life there.”
re: #412 makeitstop
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
Yeah I definitely found myself slipping into patterns of Hiberno(Irish) English while I studied in Ireland as an undergrad. In fact, in some ways I still do I think, I don’t have a brogue or anything like that.
re: #412 makeitstop
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.
It’s fascinating to say the least.
re: #262 freetoken
We will just give the Military Aid to Vietnam then.
Though, I think Duterte’s popularity will start dwindling there relatively shortly. He has pissed off pretty much every state with a remotely democratic governance.
re: #412 makeitstop
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
Been there, done that.
I used to live in Gothenburg, so had the Gothenburg dialect. Then I moved to Stockholm, and within a year spoke Stockholmian. I have found Gotlandian is contagious for me (I get a clear Gotlandian ring within hours), as is re-exposure to Gothenburgian.
As to English, once the rust is shaken off speaking, I have a slight US accent.
re: #415 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
In the shape of an “L” on [his] forehead …
Thank you for making the Smash Mouth reference so I didn’t have to. :)
New @realDonaldTrump accuser: Carina Virginia. “No one has asked me to come forward. Many people advised me not to speak publicly.” pic.twitter.com/0deYod4IkA
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 20, 2016
re: #418 lawhawk
NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.
It’s fascinating to say the least.
From what I remember reading, Daniel Day-Lewis prepared for his role of Bill the Butcher by listening to old phonographs of Walt Whitman. It’s interesting how non-native speakers of a language can effect an accent. Take Ireland for example, the Scots heavily influenced Northern Ireland’s accent.
re: #408 Sir John Barron
What’s worse is that Kristol is the voice of reason telling him to STFU.
re: #418 lawhawk
NY accent is very different from what it was when I was growing up. Influx of new immigrant groups, particularly from Asia and Africa has changed the Noo Yawker accent.
It’s fascinating to say the least.
i’ll be visiting NJ next week
well see if anyone understands me at all
New Trump accuser Carena Virginia at US Open tournament in 199 in Flushing. “Trump approached me, I’d never met him.” pic.twitter.com/ALgGDm2n7X
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 20, 2016
Trump: “Hey look at this one, we haven’t seen her before. Look at those legs.”
Trump grabbed her breast, said “Don’t you know who I am?” pic.twitter.com/DAJOhYAWVl— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 20, 2016
Of course, if you stay with people who speak your native accent, it doesn’t really go away. My grandfather spent more time in his life away from Western Pa but because he worked with so many Western Pa transplants, he never really lost it. My grandmother still has it but it wasn’t nearly as pronounced. I never detected any Western Pa in my other grandmother’s dialect. Perhaps because she lived all around the country.
re: #156 Anymouse
Another wingnut: I don’t wear a flag pin either, I wear a Gold Star Family pin:
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I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.
@EstherDixon1 Loving your country or being patriotic has nothing to do with you wearing a flag pin or not wearing a flag pin,
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) October 20, 2016
re: #430 Tigger2
I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.
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You will but you’re 100% correct. The flag pin stuff is so stupid and if these dumbasse want to play games, they should notice the colors of her outfits at the three debates.
re: #412 makeitstop
Immersion. Just being exposed to a regional accent for any amount of time will cause it to sneak into your accent.
I just spent four days back in Philly, and I found bits of that accent sneaking back into what I thought was a solid NY accent.
The better half originally hails from New Orleans, and it’s amazing to hear her lapse into that accent after we’ve been there for half a day.
Conversely, I’ve been taking voiceover lessons. Overall, I’ve been told I have a fairly neutral accent, but besides the obvious Philly/South Jersey stuff (water/wuder; dog/daugh), I’ve been shocked at some of the stuff that the teachers have caught.
re: #430 Tigger2
What’s more patriotic? Wearing a flag pin or buying Chinese steel or having your clothing line made overseas and screwing US workers?
re: #430 Tigger2
I will most likely get some hate in my mentions over this.
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Huge surge last night in Google searches for how to donate to Clinton’s campaign. (Much bigger than for Trump.) https://t.co/AkPFqM2Au0
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 20, 2016
re: #432 HappyWarrior
Clinton has made no secret of the reason for her color choices during the debates and other public appearances on the campaign trail, especially during the DNC convention.
It was a nod to the suffrage movement. And she coordinated the color with Bill and Chelsea as well.
Why didn’t Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
Oh. My. God. Is there NO conspiracy theory this guy won’t advance? https://t.co/cTkAPH1BTy
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 20, 2016
“Donald Trump is out there with a suicide vest on and the Republican Party is pulling the cord.” —@stuartpstevenshttps://t.co/HvIPcPa73I
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 20, 2016
re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Maybe she’ll stop harassing me for money then!
(I gave an undisclosed sum, I ain’t giving anymore.)
re: #360 dangerman
Moreover, IBD is a wacky newspaper, most notable for the following.
In July 2009, an editorial in Investor’s Business Daily claimed that physicist Stephen Hawking “wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the [British] National Health Service (NHS) would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.” Hawking has always lived in the U.K. and receives his medical care from the NHS, and IBD later removed the editorial’s reference to Hawking in its online version, and appended an “Editor’s Note,” which said, “This version corrects the original editorial which implied that physicist Stephen Hawking, a professor at the University of Cambridge, did not live in the UK.”[10][11] Hawking himself responded, “I wouldn’t be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.”
re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Tough shit for them. He will become one of their defacto leaders because they stupidly nominated him in the first place. Maybe try voting for a candidate based oter than your hatred for Obama and Clinton next time Republicans.
re: #443 dangerman
from one of my favorite episodes
I’m hoping that Slater and Waldorf heckle him during his concession speech.
Expect the Trump nuts to fixate on this for the remainder of election season:
Too early to measure the impact of the #finaldebate, but #GOP #Trump now has a 3-pt lead nationally on #Clinton… https://t.co/1iIOXvTmMV pic.twitter.com/rCoYnmglPE
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) October 20, 2016
A lone outlier of a poll indicating a Trump lead.
re: #445 HappyWarrior
Tough shit for them. He will become one of their defacto leaders because they stupidly nominated him in the first place. Maybe try voting for a candidate based oter than your hatred for Obama and Clinton next time Republicans.
“party of trump” will never go away
Early voting starts next week here in Utah. I can’t fucking wait to cast my vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Ummm, @HillaryClinton didn’t wear a “flag pin” at the debate because she *WAS* the American flag. She thinks America is already great! pic.twitter.com/2M96POg794
— Franklin (@franklinftw) October 20, 2016
baked praline french toast
no pictures
i’m just gloating
The Lannisters. Great family. Strong leaders. Ramsay Bolton said nice things about me. Jon Snow is for open borders. Loser. #TrumpBookReport
— Victoria Graveyard (@VictoriaAveyard) October 20, 2016
re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth
A plurality, 27 percent, picked vice presidential nominee Mike Pence. Trump got 24 percent, ahead of Texas Senator Ted Cruz at 19 percent, House Speaker Paul Ryan at 15 percent, and Ohio Governor John Kasich at 10 percent.
Poor Ted, so many people hate him.
re: #448 dangerman
“party of trump” will never go away
Yep. If they’re going to continue to use Reagan even though they have a lot of candidates who never even voted for the guy then they need to own Trump too. And quite frankly as much as I dislike Reagan, Trump is a far more accurate representation about where they are as a party in the 21st century than Ronald Reagan.
re: #454 HappyWarrior
Reagan would be a RINO with the current GOP crop. Closest to Reagan among the 17 clowns in the primary race was probably Rubio or Jeb, and both lost rather easily.
re: #453 freetoken
Poor Ted, so many people hate him.
That’s not good news for the establishment types. Only 25% want Kasich or Ryan.
re: #455 lawhawk
Reagan would be a RINO with the current GOP crop. Closest to Reagan among the 17 clowns in the primary race was probably Rubio or Jeb, and both lost rather easily.
Yep.
Thing is though I think a lot of Hispanic-Americans and women too especially are going to remember that the GOP nominated this fuck. The GOP is going to try to wash their hands of Trump as if he never happened but he did happen and the thing is the GOP base, they still like Donald. The base that nominated Trump isn’t going to disappear in 2020. It will diminish some due to voters dying but the alt-right that has been Trump’s biggest champion isn’t exactly your grandparents watching Fox either.
re: #454 HappyWarrior
Yep. If they’re going to continue to use Reagan even though they have a lot of candidates who never even voted for the guy then they need to own Trump too. And quite frankly as much as I dislike Reagan, Trump is a far more accurate representation about where they are as a party in the 21st century than Ronald Reagan.
reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century
he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence
Gold, incense, expensive spices, travelers visiting me while in the crib. Hey, this kid sounds like me, but I knew my dad. #TrumpBookReport
— free token (@freetoken) October 20, 2016
So, playing with backgrounds revealed partisans who claim the election is rigged in favor of Clinton. Meanwhile, you’ve got this too:
You guys! The writing is on the wall! #DebateNight pic.twitter.com/NVqX5b67Ss
— Abraham White (@abwhite7) October 20, 2016
PROOF! (of something)
re: #461 freetoken
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Trump: Here’s $10. write this book report for me.
Q: What book?
Trump: Any book
#TrumpBookReport
re: #460 dangerman
reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century
he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence
Left office before:
The first Simpsons episode
The fall of the Berlin Wall
The birth of any of my siblings
Grunge
Yes, he’s a relic of their past and I think one of the big reasons they like to talk about him is because he was by far the most successful electorally speaking GOPer of their lifetimes.
Oh, you have got to be shitting me pic.twitter.com/tVo8RAFyZk
— Jim (@mubay) October 19, 2016
re: #462 lawhawk
So, playing with backgrounds revealed partisans who claim the election is rigged in favor of Clinton. Meanwhile, you’ve got this too:
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this one, too:
#PodestaEmails13 GET IT WHILE ITS HOT FOLKS!! THANK YOU JULIAN! pic.twitter.com/kUKyJDEEqV
— Deplorable Lil Trump (@USAneedsTRUMP) October 20, 2016
hahahahaaaa
I still remember Cruz being asked how he’d get crossover voters. He answered Reagan Democrats. The absolute youngest Reagan Democrat is 50 years old this election. The Republican Party has no new ideas. Just the same crap they’ve promised since Ronnie but in a more nasty package.
I have the greatest respect for Lolita. Nobody respects Lolita more than me. These are more nasty lies by Crooked Hillary.” #TrumpBookReview
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) October 20, 2016
The baddest hombre pic.twitter.com/Sb9tEO2O0C
— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) October 20, 2016
LOL
If elected POTUS - I will stop RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM in this country! In order to do this, we need to #DrainTheSwamp! pic.twitter.com/hfrRusrTy0
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 20, 2016
Not for nothing, but these debates were good for one thing…Twitter has been on fire.
re: #472 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #473 Franklin
Not for nothing, but these debates were good for one thing…Twitter has been on fire.
and popcorn
Can’t tell if this is real or not….
Sarah Palin on Trump’s controversial election results comment: pic.twitter.com/8eMce8Nenv
— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) October 20, 2016
Honestly I don’t give a shit about the phrase. I care about doing something about terrorism and that’s what Obama and Clinton have done despite Trump and the GOP’s delusions.
re: #477 Franklin
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Nah, that makes too much sense for it to really be Sarah.
re: #460 dangerman
reagan left office in 1989. as you say, the last century
he’s not the face of the party
he’s an inaccurate, sepia reminiscence
The rose-tinted-memory-of-morning-in-America Reagan is still the image that defines the GOP for many of them
re: #447 lawhawk
Expect the Trump nuts to fixate on this for the remainder of election season:
A lone outlier of a poll indicating a Trump lead.
It will be interesting. Rasmussen has a normal tendency of moving towards the rest of the polls towards the end of the election. Will they do that this time?
As for this poll, it’ll be interesting to see its composition, but there’s always the 1 in 20 rule with statistics (assuming 95% accuracy).
Nobody has more respect for Hester Prynne than me. I would totally nail her. She gets an A+. #TrumpBookReport
— (((Beelzebabushka))) (@viciousbabushka) October 20, 2016
re: #483 The Vicious Babushka
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Great Gatsby? I’m greater. I have greater parties than that lowborn loser.
Worse than that. He’s arguing about how many outs in game, what constitutes out, etc @cathie_peterson @realDonaldTrump @HillaryClinton
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 20, 2016
Trump angrily tears up his notes as Hillary walks by. pic.twitter.com/vttaR7jCiA #Debate
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) October 20, 2016
this has to be the hottest take on this election from a news organisation pic.twitter.com/ImjRXOrNaC
— Ghoul With The Staff (@hayleyglyphs) October 20, 2016
The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!
Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that their line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.
re: #488 Jenner7
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He had the best notes! The best! They were bigly and he didn’t want anyone stealing them!
re: #490 calochortus
The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!
Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that there line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.
And the flag pin. No flag pin. SAD!
This would be great:
@TUSK81 Someone needs to edit this gif, freeze frame when Hillary is in front of Trump and bring down the sun glasses :) @darth?
— Franklin (@franklinftw) October 20, 2016
Twenty-six airstrikes by Turkish jets hit Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) militia in three villages west of al-Bab and northeast of Aleppo, which the SDF had recently captured from ISIL. The Turkish General Staff says between 160 and 200 were killed, while the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports 11 dead and dozens wounded.
I thought this book was about Africa and it’s all about a bunch of immigrants in a sausage factory. Where is the jungle? #TrumpBookReport
— Nasty Babushka (@viciousbabushka) October 20, 2016
Washington Post’s @costareports: Breitbart News, InfoWars are ready to claim the future of the Republican party https://t.co/0qvIw1RNrc pic.twitter.com/2Skr9jabt0
— Media Matters (@mmfa) October 20, 2016
re: #490 calochortus
The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!
Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that there line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.
I think they’re probably also losing it because the GOP has forfeited any claims to be the better national security party. Obama got them good on that. and Clinton has continued it.
re: #345 Sir John Barron
Puzzled by Morning Joke, who at some point appeared to be getting critical of Trump (maybe that was in the primaries when there were other Republicans he preferred), but in the past few months has retreated back into a Trump surrogate.
Clinton hate. Pure and simple.
Must be remembered he was in congress during Big Bill’s time in office. Probably a huge amount of butt hurt residue still lingers from that time. Just carry it over to Hillary.
re: #490 calochortus
Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.
Ponyboy and Johnny were totally weak. Sad. Dallas was really really strong and smart. True leader! #trumpbookreport
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) October 20, 2016
re: #496 The Vicious Babushka
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Can someone in #ImWithHer #UniteBlue #HillaryBecause crowd tell me why killing a term baby is preferable over inducing labor,C section?
— Siobhan Flanagan (@FlanaganSiobhan) October 20, 2016
re: #502 freetoken
Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.
Sounds like a winner. Please proceed….
After yesterday’s post of seeking safety against deplorables in a library, I found this circulating today. pic.twitter.com/h0FXbGNRHe
— BetYouDidntSee That1 (@PolitiSass) October 20, 2016
Trump surrogate: Hillary was petty for not shaking Donald’s hand.
Yeah, that’s what you got out of the debate. Okay.
re: #204 Dave In Austin
I can only think that HRC is holding the rape case of that 13yr old in her back pocket for the last week of the race if she needs it. I don’t think she will because I think this thing is all over except for the fat lady singing.
The last week is too late. People are already voting. I think this will not be used.
wait wat alyson @ajs pic.twitter.com/GiDSujmaUm
— darth™ (@darth) October 20, 2016
re: #502 freetoken
Twitchy is pushing this line, which probably led to the Freeper choir joining in.
Yeah, there are 3 or 4 threads in their “featured” stuff on the right hand margin. All shocked! Shocked I tell ya!
I’m also not seeing a lot Yay Trump! He totally won! To me that indicates that at some level they know there’s a problem, whether they acknowledge it or not.
re: #509 MsJ
The last week is too late. People are already voting. I think this will not be used.
Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.
re: #216 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Says we’re not doing enough to combat ISIS, but when we do, it’s for the benefit of the D candidate for president, and not part of any overall strategy for the area. Right. Oh, and we should do a sneak attack! But we are too stupid to do it! All the generals say so!
This would be the #1 talker if not for #IllKeepYouInSuspense.
This was exactly the same when Trump talked about immigration and how many, many people Obama is deporting - but Obama and Clinton don’t deport anyone. #Whiplash
re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth
RIGGED!!!!!
He’s casting asparagus at FOX News!
This is going to cause some major confusion. Did FOX News fuck over their favorite fool.
re: #511 calochortus
Yeah, there are 3 or 4 threads in their “featured” stuff on the right hand margin. All shocked! Shocked I tell ya!
I’m also not seeing a lot Yay Trump! He totally won! To me that indicates that at some level they know there’s a problem, whether they acknowledge it or not.
I think you’re going to see three camps emerge when Trump loses. One that admits that Trump lost because he’s completely unqualified, one that will insist that Trump got robbed and was “stabbed in the back”, and another that will even insist that wasn’t right wing enough, and one that will claim as some already have that Trump’s actually a lefty.
re: #512 Tigger2
Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.
Or, we can hope they’re sticking with “We go high.”
Sauron is a strong leader and thinks Gandalf is weak. SAD! After I’m elected, I’m going to Mordor to meet with him. Hopefully, Sauron will like me and be my friend. #Trumpbookreports.
Final fact-check totals for the three presidential debates:
DONALD TRUMP: 104 false claims
HILLARY CLINTON: 13 false claims pic.twitter.com/FqFSPFoCx0— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 20, 2016
that’s just from 3 debates! https://t.co/il0SpAss7u
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 20, 2016
re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth
When election comes along
You must rig it
re: #518 Dr. Matt
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re: #512 Tigger2
Could it be they are not using because an investigation is going on.
Could be because “when they go low, we go high”.
re: #378 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
He is such a fuckin’ loser. She knew the answers because she studied for the test, Donny.
Hell, they announced what would be on the test quite a while ago.
So Trumps new accuser says when he approached her with a group of his friends he said “Hey, look at this one. We haven’t seen her before.” How much you want to bet he took her for an escort?
“So Big” is a stupid title.
ida used “So Yuuge”
oh, and
he was a rider
and was easy
Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins
Clinton was able to make Trump’s treatment of women the issue in part because she and her campaign had prepared to make Trump’s treatment of women the issue, and in part because she is a woman and her assault on Trump flummoxed his usual mode of defense, which is to dominate and insult the other men on the stage. By the end of the final debate, Trump was reduce to spitting that Clinton was “such a nasty woman,” a line that spoke to both his horror at being challenged by a woman and his complete inability to control what came out of his mouth after 80 minutes on a stage with Clinton.
Two things have been true throughout the debates. One is that Trump has been, at every turn, underprepared, undisciplined, and operating completely without a strategy. In one of the third debate’s most unintentionally revealing moments, Trump said, “I sat in my apartment today … watching ad after false ad, all paid for by your friends on Wall Street,” an inadvertent admission that he was inhaling cable news when he should have been prepping for the debate.
But the other reality is that Clinton has been, at every turn, prepared, disciplined, and coldly strategic. She triggered Trump’s epic meltdown purposely, and kept Trump off balance over multiple weeks that probably represented his last chance to turn the election around. She was ready for every question, prepared for every attack, and managed to goad Trump into making mistakes that became the main story the day after every single debate.
Much, much more at the link.
re: #523 freetoken
His right hand looks really small in that picture.
Just sayin…
darth always works tiny hands into his creations.
re: #524 Eventual Carrion
Hell, they announced what would be on the test quite a while ago.
he was out that day
re: #505 The Vicious Babushka
Can someone in #ImWithHer #UniteBlue #HillaryBecause crowd tell me why killing a term baby is preferable over inducing labor,C section?
— Siobhan Flanagan (@FlanaganSiobhan) October 20, 2016
Well, for one, your question would be better directed to an OB/GYN doctor, rather than political committees.
Secondly, delivering a viable baby IS usually what doctors do - when it is feasible without killing the mother.
Third, “killing term babies” isn’t, AFAIK, anybody’s preferred practice - which is why is is done so rarely as to be a statistical fluke, and usually only in case #2 above.
I was going to close the comment with a rhetorical question about anti-abortion nuts being idiots, but the answer is just too obvious.
re: #507 Tigger2
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I don’t blame them, they have to make a buck. But let’s not regard our book chain establishments as some kind of depository of thoughtful material.
@GovMikeHuckabee And in CQC, a gun is just a club, and a knife is still a knife. She cut him to ribbons. @realDonaldTrump
— jay (@random__name) October 20, 2016
@efuseakay New hairdo/color, change careers, move to a different country, change name, plastic surgery… @KellyannePolls
— jay (@random__name) October 20, 2016
re: #527 makeitstop
Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins
But the other reality is that Clinton has been, at every turn, prepared, disciplined, and coldly strategic. She triggered Trump’s epic meltdown purposely, and kept Trump off balance over multiple weeks that probably represented his last chance to turn the election around. She was ready for every question, prepared for every attack, and managed to goad Trump into making mistakes that became the main story the day after every single debate.
Much, much more at the link.
spot on except for that
three weeks from election day in the hole hes in you dont “turn it around”
youd have to start by rewinding 6 months and build, then run a proper campaign
re: #532 Jayleia
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re: #530 Jay C
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Well, for one, your question would be better directed to an OB/GYN doctor, rather than political committees.
Secondly, delivering a viable baby IS usually what doctors do - when it is feasible without killing the mother.
Third, “killing term babies” isn’t, AFAIK, anybody’s preferred practice - which is why is is done so rarely as to be a statistical fluke, and usually only in case #2 above.
I was going to close the comment with a rhetorical question about anti-abortion nuts being idiots, but the answer is just too obvious.
there are no nine month abortions so the question is from ignorance
re: #260 lawhawk
From the Redstater you quote:
How could he be right if he was woefully uninformed, inarticulate, and incoherent that his argument made no sense. Oh, I guess if you’re anti-abortion, and your position is abortion is wrong, how you get there or justify it doesn’t actually matter. Gotcha.
But the reality is that the abortion issue and the 2A question reveal that Trump has zero understanding of the Supreme Court, how the law works, and how policy is done in the US. Saying that stuff gets left to the states if Roe is overturned ignores how that actually plays out - and that there’s a whole lot of court decisions that would end up with the matter right back at the Court (because under the law you can’t have split of authority among the circuits).
It also ignores that Trump’s line about how you can get an abortion up to a few days before the baby could be born. This ignores how biology actually works, and if the mother is in that situation, it’s called childbirth.
Late term abortion is a nonissue, mostly because so few are actually done - and when they are done, it’s to protect the life of the mother (a life in being). The GOP would rather see the mother die, to not put too fine a point on things. Forced birth at the expense of the mother.
And it’s not like Trump is an outlier on abortion in respect to the GOP. This is core doctrine. He’s just more explicit about things.
What, to me, shows his ignorance the most is his repeated insistence that because Clinton has been around for 30 years, she alone is responsible for not getting shit done. He views public governance as a dictatorship where one person can and will make all decisions and those decisions are final, set in stone and no one else can or will have input or pushback.
He views the Executive and Legislative branches as one thing where one person can make all the decisions…and he views the Judicial branch as crooked and beneath him.
re: #532 Jayleia
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The Bible was long and boring, very boring. It didn’t have me in it. What a snoozefest! #TrumpBookReport
— Mike Flannigan (@MikeFlannigan59) October 20, 2016
re: #533 dangerman
spot on except for that
three weeks from election day in the hole hes in you dont “turn it around”
youd have to start by rewinding 6 months and build, then run a proper campaign
True. But historically, the last debate is always seen as the ‘last chance’ to right a sinking ship. Had Trump managed to maintain his composure last night (I know, but go with me here), the post-mortem would have had a very different tone this morning.
But like I said on Facebook this morning - by not stating that he would honor the peaceful transfer of the office, he metaphorically slit his own throat and bled out on national TV.
re: #490 calochortus
The Freepers are carrying on over Clinton revealing the 4 minute nuclear response time. Treason! Pentagon is furious! And so on!
Now aside from the fact I can’t imagine anyone likely to attack us thinks that it will take an hour and a half to launch missiles, or that their line of attack would differ if it took us 2 minutes or 6 minutes, if it were accurate and top secret would the Pentagon folks be stupid enough to confirm the number by having a hissy fit? I hope not.
Not only that, but four minutes from a time the target wouldn’t know anyway. THIS MEME DOESN’T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE
Is there some new gadget that allows idiots to shit directly into the internet through their keyboard? That would explain so much.
I’m pretty sure the Russkies would know that number anyway, since secure hotline communications have been a thing since after the Cuban Missile Crisis. It’s not like the launch orders would be given by courier, FFS….
Sarah Palin threatens ‘no quarter’ for election ‘cheaters’ in logic-free rant defending Trump https://t.co/mNzRAwixdx pic.twitter.com/ap4FN1Hm2M
— Raw Story (@RawStory) October 20, 2016
re: #527 makeitstop
Ezra Klein summarizes things perfectly - Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins
Much, much more at the link.
No wonder Putin is doing everything he can to keep her out of office.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump just quit. He’d still get millions of votes and then say “hey, i quit 3 weeks before the election and still got x million votes”
he’s looking for an out, he can’t handle being a loser.
re: #289 jeffreyw
That’s cod, I was going for as authentic as I knew how. Alas, my understanding of the dish comes from cooking shows and movies rather than personal experience.
I can never make good fried fish. That looked delish.
I love fish tacos and always buy the fish from a local restaurant (they make great fish) then make the tacos at home using their fish.
I envy you, oh cooking master. I consider myself a quasi-gourmet chef but I have my limitations. I bow to thee.
He just doubled down:
I’ll accept the results of this election if I win. har har
re: #545 Belafon
No wonder Putin is doing everything he can to keep her out of office.
Yep. Putin would have this moron barking like a seal on live TV, so long as he said nice things about Trump first.
Clinton did the country a favor by pointing out how easy it is to wind that watch.
What kind of stupid answer is that? Accept them if he wins. He really is stupid. I feel bad that Clinton didn’t get a quality opponent because the right is definitely going to try to spi nthe only reason she’ll have won is because of Trump. Nevermind that their “rising stars” like Rubio, Christie, and the others couldn’t beat him in the primary.
re: #548 Jenner7
“I will accept results if I win.” Trump just now
FFS, I said that this morning to a family member as a satirical take on his comments last night.
Trump is a walking Poe’s Law.
re: #552 Timothy Watson
FFS, I said that this morning to a family member as a satirical take on his comments last night.
Trump is a walking Poe’s Law.
We need to check if he’s not really Sacha Baron Cohen, Alec Baldwin, or Andy Kauffman.
bill clinton is already a great president. but if he really engineered trump running, put that man on mount rushmore.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 26, 2016
re: #540 makeitstop
True. But historically, the last debate is always seen as the ‘last chance’ to right a sinking ship. Had Trump managed to maintain his composure last night (I know, but go with me here), the post-mortem would have had a very different tone this morning.
But like I said on Facebook this morning - by not stating that he would honor the peaceful transfer of the office, he metaphorically slit his own throat and bled out on national TV.
ok to be all metaphorical yes
he could have changed direction to some other direction
or sunk slower
or sunk less
or floated longer
or lost by less
or gone on a different tangent, not headed for “victory”
or anything
yes the final gun has not sounded. yes hes got somewhere between 0 and 10% chances (i think 4%).
short of a confluence of a number of perfect storms nothing was going to happen.
the fat lady has started her aria.
NEW: Acceptance of the electoral outcome is the baseline test to prove you believe in democracy. Trump failed-Again pic.twitter.com/q2gvPAgq9P
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 20, 2016
re: #549 Stanley Sea
He just doubled down:
I’ll accept the results of this election if I win. har har
Hurr hurr just a joke libtards!
Trump loses
Trump better not concede…vote fraud confirmed FACT. 2nd amendment Revolution!
I wonder what would be a good Clinton popular win number. Consensus seems to be people are running about 55/45 for H right now, right? Optimistically 60/40. What number would it take to be decisive and shut up the whiners?
70/30 sounds good to me. Decisive majority without looking like a statistical outlier. “Seven out of ten people want Dump to fuck off.” That’s probably enough to put pause to the losers and cowards yawping about revolution and violence. Tiny-dicked gun-humpers would back off if they thought most of their neighbors wouldn’t support them.
I’ll e-mail* my contacts at the Muslim Brotherhood secret HQ to get all those “Mohammed Mohammeds” triple-registered in the inner city disaster zones. Whitey will never see it coming!
*On a secured server, of course, LOL! But maybe I’ll “accidentally” BCC Assange for funsies!
Edit: added thoughts :P
Trump finds it incredible he’s been asked to accept the results.
Because you’re going around saying it’s rigged! Fucking hell.
re: #550 makeitstop
Yep. Putin would have this moron barking like a seal on live TV, so long as he said nice things about Trump first.
Clinton did the country a favor by pointing out how easy it is to wind that watch.
Not only that, but Putin is a bully like Trump, and I bet losing to a girl would sit rather poorly with him as well.
NOW: Trump: I reserve the right to challenge election “in the case of a questionable result” https://t.co/H9n7JKbYS7 pic.twitter.com/3H3KskXzI9
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 20, 2016
re: #366 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
The right wing has pinned Clinton with missing emails, Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, Vince Foster, Bill’s affairs, dead Haitians. None of them have any credibility or even factual basis, but it’s enough for ill-informed voters to conclude there’s something up, and they don’t trust her. At least one member of my family is convinced that Hillary will shatter the nation and begin a war with Russia, and he hates her with the heat of a thousand stars.
Add to that the Wikileaks BS, which is just a massive data dump with no real scandal contained within, and you’ve got more than enough to short out the brain circuits of the average, apolitical voter.
What is really striking to me (and sad beyond belief) is how invasive the Hillary is a liar, dishonest, not trustworthy, etc., thing is across society. I was watching The Daily Show last night and there were black millennials saying this, Jimmy Kimmel had kids on his show (pre-taped) and they said that, and it just shows how the right wing has gotten this into the thoughts and minds of Americans…all Americans.
That is fucking SAD!
re: #559 Pawn of the Oppressor
I wonder what would be a good Clinton popular win number. Consensus seems to be people are running about 55/45 for H right now, right? Optimistically 60/40. What number would it take to be decisive and shut up the whiners?
70/30 sounds good to me. Decisive majority without looking like a statistical outlier. “Seven out of ten people want Dump to fuck off.”
I’ll e-mail my contacts at the Muslim Brotherhood secret HQ to get all those “Mohammed Mohammeds” triple-registered in the inner city disaster zones. Whitey will never see it coming!
I’ve been volunteering for the campaign, and it looks pretty certain that Clinton will win in Virginia.
But, fuck it, let’s run up the score.
re: #543 Backwoods_Sleuth
Word salad of the day.
I can’t say how disappointed I am in @MSNBC for letting Hewitt repeatedly push the video of lying O’Keefe Project Veritas BS.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 20, 2016
FiveThirtyEight’s polls-plus Senate forecast gives Democrats a 72% chance of winning control of the Senate https://t.co/fMJ0FYVW7M
— ajer1 (@AnthonyAsaro1) October 20, 2016
re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth
@realDonaldTrump Why didn’t you announce that you’re a fucking moron who knows nothing. Oh, wait, you did. #Debate
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 20, 2016
BREAKING — Trump campaign staffers are already complaining that tonights Al Smith dinner is rigged against their candidate, citing today’s WikiLeaks release of dozens of Slovenian mother-in-law jokes found in Clinton campaign e-mails.
re: #567 Tigger2
The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.
And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.
re: #568 MsJ
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RIGGED DEBAET!!!
She knew she’d be asked questions like “EXPLAIN YOUR POLICY!” and “HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT THING THAT WAS IN THE NEWS LAST WEEK!”
UNFAIIRSESS!!!
re: #570 freetoken
The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.
And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.
Better than it was last week, it’s inching up.
Also, apparently Egypt’s inflation rate is now about 14%.
How long does everyone think Al-Sisi will last? Egypt seems to be the Middle Eastern analogue to France, so I kinda think we will have another revolution soon.
re: #490 calochortus
Re: the nuclear response time.
No, @HillaryClinton did not reveal any secret about how quickly we can launch 🚀. This is widely known, often cited. https://t.co/3z2VQEUlDm
— Joe Cirincione (@Cirincione) October 20, 2016
It’s total BS. And what Clinton stated isn’t exactly a state secret. In fact, it’s widely accepted as a response time for the President to deliberate on whether to inform the NMCC to respond with a nuclear reprisal.
Bottom line: It’s bullshit.
re: #542 gwangung
Heh.
Nasty Woman T shirt available.
50% of proceeds go to Planned Parenthood.
Too slow for us to wear while we’re working the Bill Clinton N. Florida rally on Saturday. Wife is at the craft shop, getting the materials for our “Nasty Woman” and “Bad Hombre” home-cooked shirts.
Trump saying he won’t accept election results is a threat to democracy, says media that gave him way more airtime than any other candidate.
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) October 20, 2016
Sorry, not sorry!
I have laughed so hard at this over the last 10 minutes that I felt the urge to share. pic.twitter.com/z9lYT56coc
— Thomas Harris (@thomas_harris_) October 20, 2016
Here’s a fun twitter hashtag thread thing
Dead souls? You bet the’re dead. Dead, dead souls. All registered voters. Dead. 100% Democrats. 100%. Dead souls. #TrumpBookReport
— Elif Batuman (@BananaKarenina) October 20, 2016
The wrath is because of Obama and Hillary will make the wrath worse. I’m the best thing for the grapes, the grapes love me. #TrumpBookReport
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) October 20, 2016
Bwahaha:
BREAKING: Donald Trump says he will `totally accept’ the results of the presidential election `if I win’
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 20, 2016
Look at the angle of Hillary’s gaze. She is NOT looking down at her notes, she is looking AT the lit panel. pic.twitter.com/sl3eZEP5b8
— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 20, 2016
re: #583 Interesting Times
Bwahaha:
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Nasty Woman: the latest fragrance coming to a debate near you pic.twitter.com/1MWQ5D1Imn
— Vox (@voxdotcom) October 20, 2016
RETWEET AND FOLLOW ME AM AFRICAN AMD AM MUSLIM SHOWS TRUMP HATES NO ONE LETS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN USE THIS #TAG #ObamaSupportsTRUMP
— Malik Obama (@OBAMAMALIK_) October 20, 2016
re: #584 A wild WITHAK appeared!
No way. He did not say that…did he? No. That has to be hacked AP.
Right?
re: #523 freetoken
His right hand looks really small in that picture.
Just sayin…
Ya think!
Damn that Photoshopping.
re: #592 MsJ
No way. He did not say that…did he? No. That has to be hacked AP.
Right?
I had the same reaction. Triple-checked for the blue checkmark.
re: #574 lawhawk
Re: the nuclear response time.
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It’s total BS. And what Clinton stated isn’t exactly a state secret. In fact, it’s widely accepted as a response time for the President to deliberate on whether to inform the NMCC to respond with a nuclear reprisal.
Bottom line: It’s bullshit.
Yeah but Twitchy….
re: #577 De Kolta Chair
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re: #589 Sir John Barron
@donnaariner @B_Melanisdottir @arisingz @mitchellvii Looks like notes, above that brass decor/microphone which is reflecting ceiling lights
— jay (@random__name) October 20, 2016
On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.
re: #559 Pawn of the Oppressor
The whiners will never shut up.
Honestly I think 55% is probably Hilz’ high side. I think she gets 53-54%.
Half the country is still crazy.
re: #601 Sir John Barron
The whiners will never shut up.
Honestly I think 55% is probably Hilz’ high side. I think she gets 53-54%.
Half the country is still crazy.
Actually, given the presence of Johnson in the race, I would be happy if she cracks 50%.
re: #600 Franklin
On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.
I wonder how they pronounce tar.gz. //
re: #570 freetoken
The problem is that “getting control” might mean only 51 seats, which means the Republicans will be able to shut down anything Clinton wants to do.
And 72% is not all that comforting. It is barely more than even odds.
At a minimum, getting control of the Senate means taking control of the committees.
I got the FCC complaints people made about Trump’s “Access Hollywood” video. This made me chuckle. https://t.co/UGL07pVeXO pic.twitter.com/eYx6hz12db
— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) October 20, 2016
“I’ll have the wineiest, darkest sea. It’ll be so winey you’ll be sea-sick. And I’ll choose excellent killers of men—the very best.”
He knows that he’s done.
Trump angrily tears up his notes as Hillary walks by. pic.twitter.com/vttaR7jCiA #Debate
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) October 20, 2016
Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?
re: #607 Kragar
“Stupid notes!!! Loser debate coaches!!!”
John Scalzi has some thoughts about Hillary (and the debate)
re: #546 b.d.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump just quit. He’d still get millions of votes and then say “hey, i quit 3 weeks before the election and still got x million votes”
he’s looking for an out, he can’t handle being a loser.
Too late. He’s already labeled.
Donald J. Trump - BIG FAT ORANGE LOSER.
See.
re: #589 Sir John Barron
What is Bill Mitchell drunk-tweeting about here?
The same wingnut BS they got their panties in a twist about from the first debate: some nonsense about Hillary having some lights or equipment in her podium that Donald didn’t get: presumably due to some vast sinister conspiracy to make Trump look bad (Geez, guys; have some faith in your candidate! He can make himself look bad without help!!)
The wrath is all because of Obama and Hillary. I’ll end the wrath believe me. I have huge respect for the grapes. Yuuuge. #TrumpBookReport
— gocart mozart (@gocartmozart1) October 20, 2016
re: #608 Nyet
I think your handle is the answer, or if there was, it got lost in the pile of Trump’s BS
Sexual predator forgets our country is built on consent; won’t accept entire nation telling him “no.” pic.twitter.com/Hpy5FvMwnT
— Cameron Esposito (@cameronesposito) October 20, 2016
re: #589 Sir John Barron
What is Bill Mitchell drunk-tweeting about here?
It’s just a continuation of the conspiracy overload dump he did last night.
re: #608 Nyet
Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?
Not one. Comments where thrown in in a couple of responses, but no questions.
re: #616 Backwoods_Sleuth
It’s just a continuation of the conspiracy overload dump he did last night.
But Drumpf is winning.
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NEW: Acceptance of the electoral outcome is the baseline test to prove you believe in democracy. Trump failed-Again pic.twitter.com/q2gvPAgq9P
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 20, 2016
re: #608 Nyet
Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?
No.
Closest we got was obliquely mentioning energy policy.
Create your own meme with the LGF Meme Machine! https://t.co/yGqhznSjs0 via @Green_Footballs pic.twitter.com/HJQLosRxtR
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 20, 2016
re: #600 Franklin
On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.
Some heathens must be eliminated.
re: #600 Franklin
On a webinar/conference call and the presenter keeps pronouncing gif as JIFF. I don’t care how the creator intended it, it’s a hard G.
Then SCUBA is pronounced SCUBBA, because the U stands for underwater.
The term gif (pronounced with a j) has been around since 87.
re: #620 lawhawk
No.
Closest we got was obliquely mentioning energy policy.
and that only because Chris Wallace took Hillary’s “open border” comment out of context. She had to tell him to finish reading the complete sentence showing that it was open borders in terms of energy policies.
re: #610 sagehen
John Scalzi has some thoughts about Hillary (and the debate)
Clinton played Trump for the fool that he is. This is excellent. Read it. You’re welcome. https://t.co/k8ZvVFiCRs
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 20, 2016
re: #607 Kragar
He knows that he’s done.
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I sincerely hope this causes him severe agita every day for the rest of his miserable life.
I know, I’m a big mean meanie.
re: #625 Backwoods_Sleuth
and that only because Chris Wallace took Hillary’s “open border” comment out of context. She had to tell him to finish reading the complete sentence showing that it was open borders in terms of energy policies.
He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”
re: #630 jaunte
He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”
when gotcha questions go horribly, horribly wrong….
re: #562 FormerDirtDart
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Oh dang…I forgot he was going to be in Delaware Ohio today. It used to be a strictly farm community but over the last 20 or so years has grown into a rich bedroom community in the Columbus Metro Area. A little boom town.
Mitt Romney worked the area back in 2012 when he had a big rally in Powell, the new rich area of Delaware county which is where I worked in my last job. I know the area well.
re: #628 Sir John Barron
Busted!
Crooked Hillary and Lyin’ Ted’s dad have been in cahoots since long before the Bay of Pigs!!!11!!
re: #627 De Kolta Chair
Trump supporters; 1 conspiracy after another. It’s embarrassing to be associated w/these crazy people. #AmericansAreBetterThanThis pic.twitter.com/00u3aI2aIO
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 20, 2016
re: #630 jaunte
He should have been embarrassed by that one. “Finish reading the whole sentence, Chris.”
It’s Fox. They have no shame.
re: #343 dangerman
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re: #608 Nyet
Question: during the three debates has there been a single question on one of the most pressing issues of our time, the climate change?
No question that I can remember. But, Hillary tries to interject it into her debate responses as best she can.
Sadly it shows the amount of concern about it in the US.
re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth
when gotcha questions go horribly, horribly wrong….
But it was sooooo FOX News!
re: #623 Belafon
Then SCUBA is pronounced SCUBBA, because the U stands for underwater.
The term gif (pronounced with a j) has been around since 87.
I will start using scubba then :)
re: #634 MsJ
Hey get me, I’m famous!! ;-)
re: #627 De Kolta Chair
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I have just the wingnut I’m going to use that on, he keeps hitting my mentions with one BS theory after another as to whats on Hillary’s podium
re: #584 A wild WITHAK appeared!
BREAKING: Donald Trump says he will `totally accept’ the results of the presidential election `if I win’
Not me. If I win this election, I’m demanding an investigation!
That’s the second time I’ve seen Joe Bonamassa make a little improvement on a John Hiatt song. Not a task for the weak. Good sourcing, Joe.
re: #643 Decatur Deb
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Gopher it, GOP.
I’d have cast a write-in vote for Jeff Flake or Ben Sasse. We need a functional conservative faction to keep liberals from wafting up into the clouds, but it needs to be somebody who repudiated Trump early on.