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Ace Rothstein  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:23:00pm

Rachel has been on the Russian connection(s) for a while now. There’s much more coming after tonight, stay tuned…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:23:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:24:15pm

Man it’s windy as fuck tonight

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:25:34pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

The “legally obtained” part is the killer here.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:26:29pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

I thought I saw him winking.
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:26:43pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

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Maybe someone should take on the job of announcing every once in a while what the unanswered questions are.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:27:38pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

The “legally obtained” part is the killer here.

re: #5 Amory Blaine

I thought I saw him winking.
/

He’s trying to get Trump to release them on his own.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:28:09pm

I also find it interesting that the Orange House released a statement before the show aired.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:29:12pm

He’s got Rachel’s microwave tapped.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:29:34pm

I have it on good authority that the leaker was John Miller.

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:30:10pm

Classy!

Edit: I couldn’t help myself…I had to see this for myself. His first reason is “the food sucks”. That was enough to eliminate even the tiniest shadow of a doubt in my mind that he is a fuckwit.

I have enormous problems with the policies of the current government of Israel, but the food is FUCKING AWESOME.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:30:12pm

Interesting tidbit regarding the leaked tax return - the copy provided didn’t come from either one of his tax preparers, nor from a federal/state/local agency. It was provided by someone inside the Trump organization, or from someone who he had provided the return to as part of a business dealing.

At this point in time I wouldn’t be at all surprised that it was either someone connected with either Russian or other banking interests who are uncomfortable with the amount of heat being generated by Trump’s non-disclosures.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:31:01pm

re: #11 bratwurst

Classy!

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Oopsie daisy. //

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:33:18pm

Almost missed this from the last thread:
re: #118 HappyWarrior

Why don’t you just leave your wife for Trump already, Sean? It’s obvious that you think every bit of criticism is a “jihad”, whatever that stupid shit means. Get your head out of his asshole for once.

The local AM station near me - an old heritage full-service station in Elyria - quietly dropped Lumpy at the end of the year, and hired a local host to take over (without any mention of replacing Lumpy). And NO ONE NOTICED OR COMPLAINED.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:34:52pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

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I’m glad somebody is using my idea :D

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:35:31pm

re: #14 Myron Falwell

Almost missed this from the last thread:

The local AM station near me - an old heritage full-service station in Elyria - quietly dropped Lumpy at the end of the year, and hired a local host to take over (without any mention of replacing Lumpy). And NO ONE NOTICED OR COMPLAINED.

Please don’t equate Sean Insanity with Frank Buck! 😢

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:36:59pm
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:37:12pm
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:39:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:42:14pm

re: #12 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Interesting tidbit regarding the leaked tax return - the copy provided didn’t come from either one of his tax preparers, nor from a federal/state/local agency. It was provided by someone inside the Trump organization, or from someone who he had provided the return to as part of a business dealing.

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At this point in time I wouldn’t be at all surprised that it was either someone connected with either Russian or other banking interests who are uncomfortable with the amount of heat being generated by Trump’s non-disclosures.

I’m not usually one to scream “distraction” but … yeah.

1.) “Client Copy”
2.) DCJ said right off the bat that Trump could well be the source.
3.) The release shows Trump did pay a non-trivial amount of net income tax, his supporters will keep repeating that as being the real takeaway.
4.) Notice that we suddenly aren’t talking about the AHCA’s abysmal CBO score or the White House’s own, even worse leaked score.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:44:13pm
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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:44:35pm

Totally off topic, but Lizards have a lot of random skills, so: Has anyone here ever cleaned an oil painting at home in their spare time?

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:44:44pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

The GOP House is so fucking dysfunctional that they’ll promptly bring GOPDonTCare back on the front burner with their incendiary rhetoric.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:48:20pm

hare: #20 goddamnedfrank

I’m not usually one to scream “distraction” but … yeah.

1.) “Client Copy”
2.) DCJ said right off the bat that Trump could well be the source.
3.) The release shows Trump did pay a non-trivial amount of net income tax, his supporters will keep repeating that as being the real takeaway.
4.) Notice that we suddenly aren’t talking about the AHCA’s abysmal CBO score or the White House’s own, even worse leaked score.

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Actually, the release shows that Trump paid a trivial amount, and yet claimed that normal business costs were taxes he paid:

It’s about time people learned to talk about two things Trump is doing at the same time. The health care debacle is still going on in town halls.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:48:55pm

On Topic: I spent much of today hearing from idiotic Bernie Sanders fans who were convinced that he’d released his entire tax returns, when in fact all he released the exact same 1040 Summary from a single year. This is how disinformation takes root, and like I said the narrative on the right will become “see you lying libtards, he actually does pay taxes.”

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:51:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:51:45pm
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:51:46pm
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:52:02pm

re: #24 Belafon

While perhaps insightful into Donald Trump, the year 2005 is not particularly relevant to the big picture, correct?

Are not the key questions in the more recent years?

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:53:24pm
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Jay C  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:55:09pm

re: #22 calochortus

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:55:41pm

re: #24 Belafon

ha

Actually, the release shows that Trump paid a trivial amount, and yet claimed that normal business costs were taxes he paid:

David Cay Johnston talked about this. Yes he inflated the amount of tax paid in his statement by adding in payroll taxes, etc but that only added about $2 million. He paid $36 million due to the alternative minimum tax, and would’ve paid about $4 million without it. However the payroll tax, etc that the White House improperly added in on today’s $38 million statement didn’t shift things very far.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:56:31pm

That time last year I saw a family of MOOSE whilst skiing.

Instagram

Saw a family of moose while tree skiing on this surprise powder day. #VailLive

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:56:35pm

I ask, why are we concerned about 2005?

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:57:40pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:57:47pm

re: #34 freetoken

I ask, why are we concerned about 2005?

Because they are still sanitizing President Pee Pee’s 2006 tax return!

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:58:42pm

re: #34 freetoken

I ask, why are we concerned about 2005?

Because Trump wanted a distraction and Maddow obliged.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:59:05pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2017 • 7:59:17pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:01:12pm

“Deep state” comes after you get some “East D”.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:01:14pm

re: #31 Jay C

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:01:55pm

Getting MAGA fucks replying to this tweet o’ mine, with “librul tears” and the like.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:05:09pm

Just ask yourself, who keeps their 1040 in a separate location from the rest of their tax return?

Nobody, that’s who. Whoever sent this to Johnston should’ve had access to the entire return, yet for some reason they chose not to send the meat along with the potatoes. Now maybe they only had a limited amount of time with the files and couldn’t copy them all. Or …

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:05:54pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

THIS.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:06:54pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Getting MAGA fucks replying to this tweet o’ mine, with “librul tears” and the like.

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I have no idea what to think right now, but I don’t see this as being all that harmful to Trump as is, and goddamn do I want it to be.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:08:50pm

Enough with the meese…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:11:31pm

A thought

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:12:36pm
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:12:46pm

That White House statement was amateurish.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:12:50pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I have no idea what to think right now, but I don’t see this as being all that harmful to Trump as is, and goddamn do I want it to be.

So you think he leaked it himself to distract from the trumpcare trainwreck?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:13:09pm

Kevin Drum, Mother Jones: Trump’s Tax Return Suggests He’s the Most Incompetent Billionaire in the Nation

Trump’s total investment income was $108 million, and Trump claims to be worth $5 billion or so, depending on what day you ask him. That means he earned a return on his assets of about 2 percent. In 2005! During the housing bubble! I’m no tax expert, and maybe there’s more to this story, but if Trump really did realize a return of only 2 percent, he is by long odds the most incompetent billionaire in the country.
Alternatively, of course, Trump is actually worth about $1-2 billion and he earned something like a 5-10 percent return. Take your pick.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:14:47pm
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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:14:48pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

So you think he leaked it himself to distract from the trumpcare trainwreck?

If that is the case, then TrumpCare is dead, and Bannon is ready to run over Ayn Rand Paul Ryan’s soulless body.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:15:32pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

So you think he leaked it himself to distract from the trumpcare trainwreck?

I’d say the chance of that is much greater than zero.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:17:19pm

re: #52 TedStriker

I’ve never in my whole life considered approaching a stranger and trying some bullshit like that fucker. Deserved everything he got.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:18:09pm

re: #6 Belafon

Maybe someone should take on the job of announcing every once in a while what the unanswered questions are.

Do a big Beck chalkboard. Leave the questions up and very visible in the background of the TV studio. Every night take 5 minutes to say you are awaiting to erase some but haven’t gotten any answers, and you have to keep adding more chalkboards with more questions.

Put some clocks up with different time zones…New York, England, Russia just for that old newsroom feel and to hint at time is ticking.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:18:33pm

re: #49 jaunte

That White House statement was amateurish.

I could totally hear Stephen Miller saying that. Or Conwoman.

It’s the permeating attitude of this White House - sheer ninth-grade level petulance.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:18:39pm

OT: Get ready to see more of this….
Star Tribune: Mayo to pick privately insured patients amid Medicaid pressures

Mayo Clinic’s chief executive made a startling announcement in a recent speech to employees: The Rochester-based health system will give preference to patients with private insurance over those with lower-paying Medicaid or Medicare coverage, if they seek care at the same time and have comparable conditions.

The number of patients affected would probably be small, but the selective strategy reveals the financial pressures that Mayo is facing in part due to federal health reforms. For while the Affordable Care Act has reduced the number of uninsured patients, it has increased the share covered by Medicaid, which pays around 50 to 85 cents on the dollar of the actual cost of medical care.

Mayo will always take patients, regardless of payer source, when it has medical expertise that they can’t find elsewhere, said Dr. John Noseworthy, Mayo’s CEO. But when two patients are referred with equivalent conditions, he said the health system should “prioritize” those with private insurance.

“We’re asking … if the patient has commercial insurance, or they’re Medicaid or Medicare patients and they’re equal, that we prioritize the commercial insured patients enough so … we can be financially strong at the end of the year to continue to advance, advance our mission,” Noseworthy said in a videotaped speech to staff late last year. The Star Tribune obtained a transcript of the speech, and Mayo has confirmed its authenticity.

Mayo is hardly alone in trying to build its privately insured clientele. Hennepin County Medical Center, for example, is building a new ambulatory center and North Loop clinic in part to attract privately insured patients.

But in the diplomatic world of health care and politics, it is rare to hear a hospital leader espouse any strategy that promotes access for privately insured patients at the expense of publicly funded patients.

“The most interesting thing isn’t that it’s happening, it’s that a high level executive actually said it out loud,” said Mat Keller, who monitors health care policy and hospital finances for the Minnesota Nurses Association.

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:20:10pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Do a big Beck chalkboard. Leave the questions up and very visible in the background of the TV studio. Every night take 5 minutes to say you are awaiting to erase some but haven’t gotten any answers, and you have to keep adding more chalkboards with more questions.

Put some clocks up with different time zones…New York, England, Russia just for that old newsroom feel and to hint at time is ticking.

Send that idea in to Rachel Maddow. Someone needs to do that. People would start checking in to see if anything is new.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:21:02pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

So you think he leaked it himself to distract from the trumpcare trainwreck?

Honestly I have no idea. But if it was him he didn’t do it by himself.

What I don’t see right now is a White House acting like its in crisis mode. If this was utterly unexpected by them we’d probably see a mass mobilization of Trump surrogates on Twitter and all the networks spinning like mad.

Is that what you’re seeing?

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:23:22pm

re: #41 calochortus

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:26:26pm

re: #61 Jay C

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:26:31pm

That should take care of any miner health problems.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:27:11pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Honestly I have no idea. But if it was him he didn’t do it by himself.

What I don’t see right now is a White House acting like its in crisis mode. If this was utterly unexpected by them we’d probably see a mass mobilization of Trump surrogates on Twitter and all the networks spinning like mad.

Is that what you’re seeing?

What I’m seeing, to borrow from the late Tom Clancy, is an administration that couldn’t guard a Turkish whorehouse, much less do anything worthwhile inside of it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:27:33pm

re: #48 Kragar

Lady has had some self-defense lessons. Block the groping hand, push him away, hit his head (or ear maybe) to disorient, knee to the groin, knee to the head. He’s down.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:27:34pm

re: #34 freetoken

I ask, why are we concerned about 2005?

We stopped being that concerned about 2005 until now. Now we can ask about 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:29:53pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

What I’m seeing, to borrow from the late Tom Clancy, is an administration that couldn’t guard a Turkish whorehouse, much less do anything worthwhile inside of it.

I’ve compared the WH personnel to a roomful of rabid, hyperactive monkeys. They’ve got at least two bosses, Trump and Bannon, who are as batshit crazy as the staff. So which boss do you follow?

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:29:53pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

What I’m seeing, to borrow from the late Tom Clancy, is an administration that couldn’t guard a Turkish whorehouse, much less do anything worthwhile inside of it.

Similar perspective in this thread:

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:30:14pm

re: #55 Kragar

I’ve never in my whole life considered approaching a stranger and trying some bullshit like that fucker. Deserved everything he got.

Oh, yeah…the creep got a slap so hard that it shook the elevator cab when he fell back into the corner, a field goal-worthy kick to the balls (with her wearing pointy shoes), AND one of the more savage knees to the head outside a MMA match.

I just loved how cool and collected she was getting off the elevator, all while dude is just laying in a crumpled heap…

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:33:23pm

re: #63 jaunte

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That should take care of any miner health problems.

Yeah, can’t complain about black lung if you die in a mine collapse.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:36:13pm

This is what people should really be taking away from today’s release. Trump’s tax plan would repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax Rule. That rule is what increased his effective 2005 income tax rate from 4% to 24%.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:37:21pm
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:38:00pm

I can’t help but wonder if all this noise over the 2005 tax returns won’t just dissipate in a few days, and may even be counterproductive in trying to pry the Trumpers away from their con-man.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:38:04pm

re: #68 Interesting Times

Similar perspective in this thread:

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Clara has a good point. If he had to divulge his returns to partners for deals he probably would’ve only given them them summary pages. I hadn’t considered that.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:39:57pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

How long will “Health Care” be this most important issue? Not long, methinks. As soon as something bad happens (terrorist attack, pandemic, dam break) Fuckface Von Clownstick will be the most popular president since FDR after Pearl Harbor.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:41:02pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

This is what people should really be taking away from today’s release. Trump’s tax plan would repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax Rule. That rule is what increased his effective 2005 income tax rate from 4% to 24%.

…and we come full circle.

Every policy trump supports - from the GOPDonTCare clusterfuck to so-called “tax reform” - is about robbing the 99% to give to the %1.

Maybe that’s the overarching message that could be used to simplify and focus the firehose of toxic shit emanating from his admin.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:41:27pm

re: #74 goddamnedfrank

Clara has a good point. If he had to divulge his returns to partners for deals he probably would’ve only given them them summary pages. I hadn’t considered that.

Unfortunately that probably also means all we can reasonably expect in the future are equally nebulous summaries from other years.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:42:16pm

re: #63 jaunte

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That should take care of any miner health problems.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:44:13pm

“I’m shocked” said nobody at all…..

Tucker Carlson to Rep. Steve King: ‘Everything you said I think is defensible and probably right’

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bratwurst  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:44:48pm

If you are not familiar with this gentleman, he has Larry Klayman’s old job running Judicial Watch.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:44:49pm

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:45:01pm

I’ll just say this: Sure, this is great for journalism, but if any of them had actually done journalism, we wouldn’t be where we are now.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:45:22pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

How long will “Health Care” be this most important issue? Not long, methinks. As soon as something bad happens (terrorist attack, pandemic, dam break) Fuckface Von Clownstick will be the most popular president since FDR after Pearl Harbor.

That depends on the response, don’t you think? Hurricane Katrina didn’t exactly do any favors for Dubya (if anything, it was the start of his undoing)

Granted, much of the media will desperately try to spin whatever he does as “presidential”, but a terrorist attack is the only event that plays into his propaganda. And even that could be negated if enough people point out that Obama kept the US safe from a major terrorist attack for 8 years.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:45:57pm

Here’s a guy I’d clock in an elevator just because

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:46:59pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

Heh.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:47:47pm

re: #80 bratwurst

If you are not familiar with this gentleman, he has Larry Klayman’s old job running Judicial Watch.

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No, I can’t say it bothers me that someone making $150 million has to pay $35 million in taxes. Any other questions?

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:56:20pm

re: #86 calochortus

No, I can’t say it bothers me that someone making $150 million has to pay $35 million in taxes. Any other questions?

Sounds good to me.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 8:59:08pm

re: #87 retired cynic

Sounds good to me.

Heck if I made that kind of money I’d be happy to pay twice that in taxes.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:00:39pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:01:02pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

Probably someone has already noted this, but King is repeating the right wing intellectuals’ premise that Western Culture & Civilization is The Best Evah™, without which the world would be a stinking hellhole of poverty, crime and violence. Carlson is, too.

Concomitant with that premise is the association of Western Culture & Civ with white male Christian people, and a deliberate glossing over of other influences on WC&C.

IOW, it’s the Ph.D. version of white supremacy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:02:06pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

On Topic: I spent much of today hearing from idiotic Bernie Sanders fans who were convinced that he’d released his entire tax returns, when in fact all he released the exact same 1040 Summary from a single year. This is how disinformation takes root, and like I said the narrative on the right will become “see you lying libtards, he actually does pay taxes.”

The car ahead of me had a bumper sticker “Don’t blame me; I voted for Bernie” and all I could think is — yes — I blame you

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:02:44pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

Cernovich is a wackjob.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:04:09pm

re: #88 calochortus

Heck if I made that kind of money I’d be happy to pay twice that in taxes.

Socialist!

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:07:51pm

re: #93 wheat-dogg

Socialist!

Hangs head in shame ;)

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:08:13pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

“Here’s a guy I’d clock in an elevator just because”

I don’t know what people like Cernovich, Steve King, David Duke, and others of that ilk are so afraid of. I’m a POC, and I talk to many other POC, and we never discuss hating white people or any other group. We talk about our kids, vacation plans, Christianity, politics, and other subjects, but I’ve never heard one POC I’ve come into contact with talk about killing white people. Even though I don’t know all POC, I know a lot of them here in my city. All I want anyone to do for me is mind their own business and keep their noses out of mine. I don’t have time to sit around and plot and plan to target any group of Americans for any reason. When I read something like the article Cernovich is promoting on Twitter, I always think that it is they who want to harm all others who oppose them in any way. My daughter is engaged to a white guy. He comes to my home, and I go to his mother and sister’s house. I have white neighbors, friends, and associates, and it has never entered my mind to harm them in any way. If there is ever a race war, I don’t think POC will start it. It will be the result of words and ideas that foul the atmosphere that are being pushed by the aforementioned individuals. They’re great at starting fires and then, distancing themselves from their handiwork. Frankly, I don’t care enough about individuals like these to get within 10 feet of them. If I saw one of them walking on the same sidewalk I was on, I’d cross the street and use the other sidewalk on the opposite side.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:12:01pm

re: #95 majii

majii, she’s good people, y’all. It’s good to see you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:13:44pm

The first 2 pages of a tax return are of some interest — but it’s the rest that is important. We really need full tax returns to understand his source of income and the extent of his involvement with Russians and possible money laundering. The Trumpsters don’t care — but the rest of us may be really interested. Remember: Nixon was forced from office even after winning a true landslide victory; same could happen here.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:14:13pm

Hasta mañana, all.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:14:30pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

Good to see you too, teleskiguy. I’ve been enjoying the moose pics you’ve been posting lately. I sort of envy you for having access to that kind of natural beauty. I live in the ‘burbs, and the most animals I see are dogs and cats. LOL.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:16:01pm

re: #80 bratwurst

Anyone else bothered that any American citizen, no matter how wealthy, would have to pay $35 million in taxes?

Probably more people bothered that one of their fellow citizens could make more than $100 million in a year and think “That’s not enough for me.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:16:05pm

re: #99 majii

Good to see you too, teleskiguy. I’ve been enjoying the moose pics you’ve been posting lately. I sort of envy you for having access to that kind of natural beauty. I live in the ‘burbs, and the most animals I see are dogs and cats. LOL.

Me too. Though in my burb, there are occasional deer and coyotes

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:16:33pm

re: #100 jaunte

Probably more people bothered that one of their fellow citizens could make more than $100 million in a year and think “That’s not enough for me.”

Eggzactly!

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:16:56pm

One of the reasons I don’t buy the idea that this is all some masterful distraction by the White House is they’ve already got their excuse for Trumpcare’s failure: Paul Ryan fooled Trump into supporting this boondoggle and he should be the fall guy for it. Why would they suddenly junk that story and do so in a fashion that undermines their whole “My taxes are under audit!” excuse? Nothing we’ve seen from either Trump or Bannon indicates that they have an ounce of humanity in them, so why throw him a lifeline instead of an anchor?

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:17:04pm

What sort of insane level of greed are we expected to normalize?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:17:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:18:16pm
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:19:27pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:19:56pm

re: #99 majii

I saw several deer driving on back roads between Grand Junction, CO and Silt, CO yesterday.

This route I took yesterday, I thought I was going to have to turn around because of mud or snow, but I was able to pass through without too much trouble.

I also saw that pack of bighorn sheep that always hangs out right next to the road in Glenwood Canyon. Those animals are smart, not once in the time I’ve taken trips through that canyon since I was five years old have I seen a bighorn sheep step foot on the road.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:19:57pm

re: #80 bratwurst

If you are not familiar with this gentleman, he has Larry Klayman’s old job running Judicial Watch.

What an utter shithead!

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:21:00pm

Because of course they did.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:21:56pm

re: #110 jaunte

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Because of course they did.

The non-violent right, ladies and gents.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:26:37pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:27:55pm

re: #112 Belafon

Twitter needs an edit feature.

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:28:05pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

“Nothing we’ve seen from either Trump or Bannon indicates that they have an ounce of humanity in them, so why throw him a lifeline instead of an anchor?”

I agree. And, besides, weren’t his supporters screaming that they liked him last year because he is sooo smart and would be a “strong leader?” If this is the case, it means that no one would dare push him around or take advantage of him. It also means that if they’re resorting to saying he’s been hoodwinked by the likes of Paul Ryan, Trump isn’t as smart as they think he is, and his leadership skills are weak. The Talking Yam shouldn’t have needed Ryan to write a healthcare bill because every chance he got last year he was screaming that he had a plan. Why didn’t he submit his plan to Ryan, let him tweak it, and then present it to the nation? Of course, the answer to this is that TY never had a plan. He didn’t even have a basic idea of what his healthcare plan would look like because the first thing out of his mouth after Ryan started working on his bill was, “I didn’t know how complicated healthcare could be.” All of them need to sit down and shut up, especially Cornyn who said that if Dems don’t like TrumpCare, they should write their own bill. Dude is clearly frustrated about the TrumpCare bill and is lashing out at Dems because he and his buddies don’t know crap about writing healthcare legislation. They sold a car to some Americans [repeal and replace,] told them it was in good shape, but they forgot to tell them the car has no wheels.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:32:33pm

re: #84 wheat-dogg

Here’s a guy I’d clock in an elevator just because

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:33:35pm

re: #110 jaunte

“Because of course they did.”

Cowards always feel a need to threaten and intimidate others, hoping that it will silence them. DCJ isn’t going to be intimidated by them no matter how many times they call his home and threaten him, his wife, and family. He mentioned on TRMS that he’s been doing this kind of work for 50 years. If I were him, if any of them showed up at my door, I’d dial 911 immediately. Cowards and bullies only seem to understand there are limits to their behavior when they get into some sort of legal trouble.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:33:56pm

LOL, poor McMaster doesn’t understand that he holds the high card. Trump really can’t afford for him to quit. I wouldn’t put up with this micromanaging bullshit for one second, just go straight to the boss and say it’s him or me.

President Donald Trump has overruled a decision by his national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, to sideline a key intelligence operative who fell out of favor with some at the Central Intelligence Agency, two sources told POLITICO.

On Friday, McMaster told the National Security Council’s senior director for intelligence programs, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, that he would be moved to another position in the organization.

The conversation followed weeks of pressure from career officials at the CIA who had expressed reservations about the 30-year-old intelligence operative and pushed for his ouster.

But Cohen-Watnick appealed McMaster’s decision to two influential allies with whom he had forged a relationship while working on Trump’s transition team — White House advisers Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner. They brought the matter to Trump on Sunday, and the president agreed that Cohen-Watnick should remain as the NSC’s intelligence director, according to two people with knowledge of the episode.

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:34:31pm

re: #115 Belafon

Beautiful!!

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:36:39pm

re: #113 Belafon

Twitter needs an edit feature.

It does, you delete the tweet, and send another

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:38:52pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

It does, you delete the tweet, and send another

It’s a pain from a phone.

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:40:20pm

Oh fuck off!

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teleskiguy  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:42:21pm
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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:43:12pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

GAG

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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:43:16pm
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Birth Control Works  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:45:54pm

trying to subscribe to the DC Report emails, but I keep getting a error message.

Think a lot of other people are doing the same?

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:49:20pm

As a public service to DFW Metroplex Lizards, this is Alice Walton’s most recent DWI mugshot.

If you see a Porsche or Maybach or similar conveyance rocketing along a country road with this woman at the wheel, pull over, stop, and RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

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majii  Mar 14, 2017 • 9:51:21pm

re: #126 Birth Control Works

“trying to subscribe to the DC Report emails, but I keep getting a error message.”

Someone here mentioned earlier that the DCR’s site was down.

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Myron Falwell  Mar 14, 2017 • 10:09:26pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

“I’m shocked” said nobody at all…..

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Fucker Carlson has been practicing his Nazi arm salute nightly with noted psycho Laura Ingraham, don’cha know.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:58:00pm

re: #95 majii

Shoot, I’m white, and I don’t get it either. I’ve taught teenagers of all colors and sizes, including some big African-American guys who could have laid me flat if they wanted to. I’ve been in predominantly AA communities, too. Never once did it occur to me that anyone wanted to kill me.

Although I have to confess, as a college student getting lost in Bayonne, NJ, did make me a bit nervous. But I was young and stupid then.

Cernovich, Duke, et alia, all seem consumed with fear. For all their “alpha male” braggadocio, they seem very insecure about their status with respect to women, PoC and non-straights — like it’s an us vs. them zero-sum game.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2017 • 11:59:21pm

re: #99 majii

Good to see you too, teleskiguy. I’ve been enjoying the moose pics you’ve been posting lately. I sort of envy you for having access to that kind of natural beauty. I live in the ‘burbs, and the most animals I see are dogs and cats. LOL.

Move to Staten Island, they have miniature horses there. :-P


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