NEW: Just attended WH briefing on “religious liberty” executive order @realDonaldTrump will sign tomorrow. See details: pic.twitter.com/9Djwi7mdYZ
— Kelly O’Donnell (@KellyO) May 4, 2017
re: #2 FormerDirtDart
I wonder how they’re planning to exclude black churches.
re: #2 FormerDirtDart
The lies never end with these assholes. Item #2 is a lie. The Johnson amendment does not prohibit politics by preachers in services. It just means you can’t do that and be tax-exempt as a religion.
NEW: Just attended WH briefing on “religious liberty” executive order @realDonaldTrump will sign tomorrow. See details: pic.twitter.com/9Djwi7mdYZ
— Kelly O’Donnell (@KellyO) May 4, 2017
@KellyO @realDonaldTrump JFC. This is NOT “religious liberty.” It’s a roadmap to theocracy. https://t.co/JZhvQ3xQUd
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2017
I fucking cannot believe how awful this is getting. I mean, yes, I can believe it, BUT I DON’T WANT TO. How can this be happening in the United States?
re: #3 jaunte
I wonder how they’re planning to exclude black churches.
One way to do it would be for the IRS to make a ruling that any version of Christianity other than white evangelical prosperity gospel shit is not entitled to the religious tax exemption.
re: #6 Charles Johnson
I fucking cannot believe how awful this is getting. I mean, yes, I can believe it, BUT I DON’T WANT TO. How can this be happening in the United States?
We have way too many assholes in the US electorate.
Hey GOP, don’t ever lecture us again on fiscal responsibility. You’re about to reorder 1/6 of the US economy w no idea what it costs.
— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) May 4, 2017
.@RepPoliquin (R-Maine) had to fly home 2day due to a family medical emergency. He is doing everything he can to get back for health vote
— Scott Wong (@scottwongDC) May 4, 2017
He’s going to race back from his family medical emergency so that other families’ medical emergencies can’t be attended to. https://t.co/iAqXb9OC09
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) May 4, 2017
Fact check: The New York Times will never get another penny from me.
Fact Check: On pre-existing conditions, both sides are stretching the truth https://t.co/Kc57xffQmm via @YLindaQiu pic.twitter.com/ITJuevMVBs
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) May 4, 2017
re: #6 Charles Johnson
I fucking cannot believe how awful this is getting. I mean, yes, I can believe it, BUT I DON’T WANT TO. How can this be happening in the United States?
Because our biological evolution had lagged well behind our technological one. A large # of people are frightened animals looking to the Alpha to lead them to safety from scary things.
Please tell me Congress isn’t going to pass this nightmare right wing fake health care bill. Somebody.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2017
re: #16 Charles Johnson
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I doubt it. Even Dempublicans like Manchin realize that he’ll get the boot if it passes. On the other hand, if it does… “I’m sorry, your policy no longer covers….” will hopefully lead to a saner Congress.
re: #16 Charles Johnson
If this piece of shit bill gets though the House, then McConnell will decide its fate in the Senate by determining whether or not the legislative filibuster will apply.
For the first time in a long time, America has an administration that’s filled from top to bottom with defenders of life. #SBAgala
— Vice President Pence (@VP) May 4, 2017
Tweeting about being a “defender of life” as Congress plans a vote in a few hours to take away healthcare from millions of people. https://t.co/uFT7IRB7sr
— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) May 4, 2017
puke
re: #20 jaunte
America has an Administration that is filled from top to bottom and side to side with the very worst GOP death-cultists.
re: #20 jaunte
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Tell that to the people who are going to lose their insurance because of having a pre-existing condition, you rat bastard. You’re not defenders of life. You’re defenders of forcing women to give birth. There’s a difference, you hatefilled chode.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
Tell that to the people who are going to lose their insurance because of having a pre-existing condition, you rat bastard. You’re not defenders of life. You’re defenders of forcing women to give birth. There’s a difference, you hatefilled chode.
Cthulhu vs. Trump in 2020. Vote for the lesser evil (i.e., Cthulhu).
Works just as well vs. almost every other Republican garbage-human.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
Happy, I don’t know if you saw it, but I left a private message for you in the last thread just as this one was created.
re: #24 ObserverArt
Happy, I don’t know if you saw it, but I left a private message for you in the last thread just as this one was created.
Yeah I did, thanks. Happy for BG.
re: #18 EPR-radar
If this piece of shit bill gets though the House, then McConnell will decide its fate in the Senate by determining whether or not the legislative filibuster will apply.
Trump Gets a Win He Wasn’t Counting On: He Saved the Filibuster
nytimes.com
A number of House members say they haven’t seen latest version of bill that will remake the health care system and will be voted on tomorrow
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) May 4, 2017
This is obscene.
Don’t let them get away with this. https://t.co/K3l3ewr2Ag— Indivisible Guide (@IndivisibleTeam) May 4, 2017
The bill the House will vote on tomorrow still contains an exemption for members of Congress. https://t.co/XKzGPNdMN9
— Sarah Kliff (@sarahkliff) May 4, 2017
re: #17 Barefoot Grin
I doubt it. Even Dempublicans like Manchin realize that he’ll get the boot if it passes. On the other hand, if it does… “I’m sorry, your policy no longer covers….” will hopefully lead to a saner Congress.
If it passes, the Republicans lose the House in 2018. The Senate is not stupid enough to pass it once the new, sure to be horrific CBO score comes out. There is no win here in the long game for the House Republicans by passing this bill off to the Senate.
It’s an incredibly poor political decision to take this to a vote and potentially pass it. Just box of rocks stupid.
Am I correct that the GOP is likely short a few votes for the healthcare bill? That they’re planning to come up with them overnight?
re: #29 jaunte
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They’re literally doing everything they accused the Dems of doing on ACA.
re: #29 jaunte
Remember all that screeching about Democrats supposedly exempting themselves from Obamacare?
re: #26 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
Trump Gets a Win He Wasn’t Counting On: He Saved the Filibuster
nytimes.com
Only until the second TurtleHead needs to pass the bill destroying health care because his racist hatred of a black President outwieghs everything else in his mind.
The dimly remembered past becomes a warm, fuzzy, rose colored safe place when the average human faces the vast indifferent universe beyond our little blue dot. Any comforting, memory validating words will be embraced and believed.
Some wingnut on my FB is saying she and her family are praying for the health bill to be passed.
“Unfriend”
re: #32 HappyWarrior
They’re literally doing everything they accused the Dems of doing on ACA.
These Republican scumbags always project. Every. Single. Time.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
Some wingnut on my FB is saying she and her family are praying for the health bill to be passed.
“Unfriend”
Some people man.
re: #20 jaunte
And the hypocrisy meter tilts…..
re: #34 William Lewis
Only until the second TurtleHead needs to pass the bill destroying health care because his racist hatred of a black President outwieghs everything else in his mind.
That’s my concern as well. If the GOP can get this piece of shit thorough the House, only the Senate filibuster stands in the way of wingnut/GOP heaven. McConnell is spineless, and the entire GOP is full of party above country hacks.
Perhaps they will keep the filibuster if they are convinced that getting to wingnut/GOP heaven will get them voted out of office.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
Some wingnut on my FB is saying she and her family are praying for the health bill to be passed.
“Unfriend”
Wonder what their reasoning is. Ha jk.
re: #42 Stanley Sea
Wonder what their reasoning is. Ha jk.
White people are the only ones Jebokrap intended to live. Isn’t it obvious? That’s what white Christianity teaches today, and has taught for decades.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
Some wingnut on my FB is saying she and her family are praying for the health bill to be passed.
“Unfriend”
I’ve sometimes been tempted to keep them on my friends list, just to wait for the inevitable “Holy shit, there’s a health emergency and I can’t pay for it!” so I could link to their old post and laugh like a drain. But it’s usually better for my blood pressure if I just remove them from my online life…
re: #43 Brian J.
White people are the only ones Jebokrap intended to live. Isn’t it obvious? That’s what white Christianity teaches today, and has taught for decades.
Don’t paint us all with that brush, it’s no more true than any more than all Muslims are terrorists. There are some of us out there who really do try to live by the teachings rather than pretend our hates are justified.
re: #41 EPR-radar
That’s my concern as well. If the GOP can get this piece of shit thorough the House, only the Senate filibuster stands in the way of wingnut/GOP heaven. McConnell is spineless, and the entire GOP is full of party above country hacks.
Perhaps they will keep the filibuster if they are convinced that getting to wingnut/GOP heaven will get them voted out of office.
They have to at least suspect that killing many people’s loved-ones to make the rich richer would cause a Democratic takeover, and the Democrats would be able to roll right over them without the filibuster.
re: #43 Brian J.
White people are the only ones Jebokrap intended to live. Isn’t it obvious? That’s what white Christianity teaches today, and has taught for decades.
Conservative Christianity, not white Christianity.
For what it’s worth… I’m not sure enough Americans really care one way or another about whether their news sources are really news sources or just forms of entertainment.
This is one of our society’s biggest problem - the “news” industry is nearly all for-profit, and it is profitable to put out “both sides” BS just to keep controversies going, for the entertainment value.
re: #45 William Lewis
Don’t paint us all with that brush, it’s no more true than any more than all Muslims are terrorists. There are some of us out there who really do try to live by the teachings rather than pretend our hates are justified.
I know, I know, ninety percent of you give the other ten a bad name.
Seriously. there’s been literally no organized pushback by Christians against this tendency. Most liberals simply leave the church, while the rest use excuse after justification after rationalization to claim that they’re not seeing what’s in front of their eyes.
Chaffetz has not yet resigned & plans to come back this wk after foot surgery. GOP needs his vote to pass health care bill.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) May 2, 2017
Reminder: Chaffetz is returning from an ins covered surgery, for a pre-existing condition, to vote Yes on bill removing the same opp for you https://t.co/suN4Dp1cow
— Maggie Jordan: (@MaggieJordanACN) May 2, 2017
re: #49 Brian J.
I know, I know, ninety percent of you give the other ten a bad name.
Seriously. there’s been literally no organized pushback by Christians against this tendency. Most liberals simply leave the church, while the rest use excuse after justification after rationalization to claim that they’re not seeing what’s in front of their eyes.
Bullshit. I understand that the supernatural is imaginary, and I can still see that left-wing Christians have nothing to do with right-wing “Christianity”, and do understand that the right is nuts.
re: #49 Brian J.
Come on over to my parish sometime if you want to see the pushback.
And we’ll give you a bowl of soup and bread along with the people we’re trying to feed too.
Just because you don’t see something doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
now, I’m off to work. BBL.
re: #47 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
Conservative Christianity, not white Christianity.
But you’re a good German! You really thought it was just an artistic choice when the cross sprouted hooks…
re: #45 William Lewis
Don’t paint us all with that brush, it’s no more true than any more than all Muslims are terrorists. There are some of us out there who really do try to live by the teachings rather than pretend our hates are justified.
I saw a billboard on the way to work that said “Real Christians follow the teaching of Jesus.” I replied “But a lot of Christians make up their own rules and then find a way to justify them.”
re: #53 Brian J.
But you’re a good German! You really thought it was just an artistic choice when the cross sprouted hooks…
You’re coming across as a crazy person.
re: #46 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
They have to at least suspect that killing many people’s loved-ones to make the rich richer would cause a Democratic takeover, and the Democrats would be able to roll right over them without the filibuster.
Bingo.
2018 can’t get here fast enough.
And now I am going offline for a few days because I’m not going to get too wrapped up in the latest falling sky. Going to eat well, sleep well, love on my friends and family, and pick the torch back up next week.
Have a good few days, Lizardim. Breathe through your eyelids. :)
re: #55 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
You’re coming across as a crazy person.
I know, I’m supposed to pretend that it’s not happening, just the way Obama pretended not to see a successful coup d’etat. Because we’re liberals, and we’re supposed not to notice the world around us.
re: #50 jaunte
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I’d like to get “Bone Spur, Jr.” trending, but I’m afraid that Chaffetz will have some Bob Marley-like condition that will only win him sympathy.
re: #54 Belafon
I saw that one on I-10 this Sunday, driving back into Houston from the country, and had a very similar mental response.
re: #49 Brian J.
I know, I know, ninety percent of you give the other ten a bad name.
Seriously. there’s been literally no organized pushback by Christians against this tendency. Most liberals simply leave the church, while the rest use excuse after justification after rationalization to claim that they’re not seeing what’s in front of their eyes.
Really? Ever met an Episcopalian?
re: #58 Barefoot Grin
I think he fell off a ladder in his garage.
re: #59 jaunte
I saw that one on I-10 this Sunday, driving back into Houston from the country, and had a very similar mental response.
This one is in Royse City on I-30.
Cult leader Tony Alamo died today. I put up a Page.
I first heard of Alamo when I was in law school, because of the Tony and Susan Alamo Foundation v. Dept of Labor case in 1985, which is still good law in 2017. Creepy evangelist Ernest Angley was found in violation of the federal wage and hour regulations and the judge based the decision in part on the Alamo Fdn case.
Always keep backup copies. pic.twitter.com/11drSXM42G
— Cliff Pickover (@pickover) May 4, 2017
AHCA: The Ultimate Death Panel
— Gus Doritos™ (@Gus_802) May 4, 2017
GOP lawmaker: You don’t need Planned Parenthood, just get birth control at the grocery store https://t.co/JwmLba7XB5
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 4, 2017
re: #66 jaunte
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BEcause Planned PArenthood is just that grocery store birth control. Fucking idiots.
re: #67 HappyWarrior
He must be thinking of Foster Friess’ Aspirin.
re: #55 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
You’re coming across as a crazy person.
And not for the first time either.
re: #66 jaunte
All these fucking douche bag lawmakers spouting off on women’s health look the same. Feeble middle aged or older crusty white haired white men. Scum.
re: #70 teleskiguy
All these fucking douche bag lawmakers spouting off on women’s health look the same. Feeble middle aged or older crusty white haired white men. Scum.
Yep. All woefully out of touch with basic reality and human decency too.
re: #60 BlueGrl21
Really? Ever met an Episcopalian?
I don’t think I have. But I do know that their church membership has plummeted by 20 percent just in the last 10 years, and by more than 50 percent since 1960, whereas the total US population has more than doubled.
Episcopalians were liberal Christians who left their church as white supremacy because standard.
re: #53 Brian J.
But you’re a good German! You really thought it was just an artistic choice when the cross sprouted hooks…
Dude, you need to step way back. If I wrote anything like that about Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Wiccans, Sikhs, Shintos, atheists, or any other creed or non-creed people follow I would get my ass handed to me here. And rightfully so.
You’re being a balls to the wall dick.
re: #61 jaunte
I think he fell off a ladder in his garage.
No doubt putting flash drives under the insulation.
re: #46 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
They have to at least suspect that killing many people’s loved-ones to make the rich richer would cause a Democratic takeover, and the Democrats would be able to roll right over them without the filibuster.
I am steamed.
However I am wondering since Mr Turtle McConnell is being quiet right at this time, the GOP congress may just have a guarantee from the GOP Senate they will kill it. This allows the GOP Congress to make their backers happy the are killing Obamacare. Optics.
That would be taking a huge risk based on them thinking they can hold the Senate if the Senate does the deed and they are concerned the opposite is true regarding the House. Should the House fail again, they may feel they could lose it next election.
Of course I don’t see how that can be since their own supports like the features of the ACA so it is an extreme risk, but this is the current GOP.
Or, maybe the Senate just keeps the ACA and calls it McConnell Trump American Health Act. Cover all asses.
re: #66 jaunte
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I have empathy for that guy. I, too, can no longer button the top button on my old dress shirts.
re: #55 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
You’re coming across as a crazy person.
Not the first time Brian J has been a bit out there.
re: #75 ObserverArt
They can hold the Senate because only 8 Rs are up for election compared with 23 Ds and two Is.
I’m a west coast dual citizen living in Vancouver & San Francisco. Socialized healthcare reduces so much stress. It’s a basic public service
— Mika McKinnon (@mikamckinnon) May 4, 2017
Important thread. Please read. https://t.co/TTgYkMx6Yy
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 4, 2017
re: #79 Skip Intro
They can hold the Senate because only 8 Rs are up for election compared with 23 Ds and two Is.
We might be looking at an anti R wave possibly though.
re: #81 HappyWarrior
We might be looking at an anti R wave possibly though.
There are really only two serious targets among those R seats- Arizona and Nevada. The next softest target is Ted Cruz in Texas.
re: #81 HappyWarrior
We might be looking at an anti R wave possibly though.
At the moment the Rs I know are happy as pigs in shit.
re: #82 Brian J.
There are really only two serious targets among those R seats- Arizona and Nevada. The next softest target is Ted Cruz in Texas.
Two years is a long time. Did anyone think Ed Gillespie would seriously give Mark Warner a challenge in 2013?
re: #83 Skip Intro
At the moment the Rs I know are happy as pigs in shit.
Hopefully they get complacent.
re: #83 Skip Intro
At the moment the Rs I know are happy as pigs in shit.
The Rs are pigs in shit. FIFY.
re: #86 petesh
The Rs are pigs in shit. FIFY.
To explain, with a different metaphor from the animal kingdom: Not only are the Rs the dog that caught the car, but they are under the impression that they can drive, which might not matter if they were on a straight freeway with no traffic. Instead, to use a local Santa Cruz metaphor, they are trying to break the speed limit on Highway 17 in a downpour. Of course, innocent bystanders are at severe risk.
I have asthma, if the AHCA is passed I could lose my health care. Any of your family members can have one of these pre existing conditions. pic.twitter.com/ksazDe9PLv
— Simar (@sahluwal) May 4, 2017
Obesity is on the list.
Data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, 2009-2010 2, 3
More than 2 in 3 adults are considered to be overweight or obese.
More than 1 in 3 adults are considered to be obese.
More than 1 in 20 adults are considered to have extreme obesity.
About one-third of children and adolescents ages 6 to 19 are considered to be overweight or obese.
More than 1 in 6 children and adolescents ages 6 to 19 are considered to be obese.niddk.nih.gov
re: #90 teleskiguy
Woman’s Double Mastectomy Denied Over Disputed Acne Treatment
Robin Beaton found out last June she had an aggressive form of breast cancer and needed surgery — immediately.
Her insurance carrier precertified her for a double mastectomy and hospital stay. But three days before the operation, the insurance company called and told her they had red-flagged her chart and she would not be able to have her surgery.
The reason? In May 2008, Beaton had visited a dermatologist for acne. A word written on her chart was interpreted to mean precancerous, so the insurance company decided to launch an investigation into her medical history.
cnn.com
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re: #54 Belafon
Unfortunately, that’s true. Especially with the prosperity “gospel” thieves.
re: #89 jaunte
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Obesity is on the list.
You know what else is on the list? At least in my personal experience-a biopsy that shows you do not have breast cancer or anything that could lead to it.
re: #60 BlueGrl21
Gee guess what we are… My conservative bishop was Chaplin to the veterans at the Dakota pipeline protests. Well, conservative for us…
Conservatives: Abortion is murder! Every life is precious!
Also conservatives: Fuck your sick baby that’s not my problem go get a 3rd job.— OhNoSheTwitnt (@OhNoSheTwitnt) May 3, 2017
re: #96 William Lewis
Gee guess what we are… My conservative bishop was Chaplin to the veterans at the Dakota pipeline protests. Well, conservative for us…
The clerical vestments consist of a shabby, ill-fitting suit, bowler hat, cane, and toothbrush mustache?
Or is that just what autocorrect thinks?
@BadAstronomer Because the @HouseGOP wants to undermine the most important legislation of our first black president. Simple as that.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 4, 2017
Keeping in mind my own advice from a couple of days ago, that the people maintaining the most positive outlook are the ones who are taking steps to be active and resist, my plan for tomorrow is to find some way to contribute.
With that in mind:
So—if we lose the vote, don’t mourn. Fight. Crucify the House. Only after pulverizing the House GOP, turn, eyes ablaze, to the Senate. 9/9
— Ben Wikler (@benwikler) May 3, 2017
re: #101 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Keeping in mind my own advice from a couple of days ago, that the people maintaining the most positive outlook are the ones who are taking steps to be active and resist, my plan for tomorrow is to find some way to contribute.
With that in mind:
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Already found a protest. 4 pm.
re: #83 Skip Intro
At the moment the Rs I know are happy as pigs in shit.
Yup. Same thing I’m seeing.
“I’d like you to paint me a cat.”
“A what?”
“A cat. You do know what a cat is, right? You’ve seen a cat?”
“Uh, yeah. Of course.” pic.twitter.com/GeYOogkWO5— Stephanie Boland (@stephanieboland) May 3, 2017
re: #95 calochortus
You know what else is on the list? At least in my personal experience-a biopsy that shows you do not have breast cancer or anything that could lead to it.
I was turned down for the pre-existing condition of blood pressure that was 140/85 without medication.
CEO Paul Markovich provides a full statement on why we cannot support the #AHCA in its current form: https://t.co/1zN6XNfckt
— Blue Shield of CA (@BlueShieldCA) May 3, 2017
re: #102 Stanley Sea
Already found a protest. 4 pm.
Only thing FB is good for & it’s really good for that.
NBC News has learned that the UK’s Royal Staff has been called to Buckingham Palace for an “emergency meeting.” Reason unknown. #breaking
— Harrison Golden (@harrisongolden) May 4, 2017
Contact your reps - now! Tell them to vote NO on #ACA replacement. Millions would lose coverage if passed. https://t.co/rWMkdmS4oe #AHCA pic.twitter.com/j9ejFBuybb
— AMA (@AmerMedicalAssn) May 4, 2017
re: #108 lockjawcanbefun
According to Twitter, rumors say Prince Phillip has passed but no announcement will be made until 8am local time.
Royal protocol dictates “significant announcements” happen at 8am UK time. So we are perhaps still 4hrs away from any #BuckinghamPalace news
— Lisa Wilkinson (@Lisa_Wilkinson) May 4, 2017
re: #99 Grunthos the Flatulent
Sigh. No, I didn’t notice that autocorrect moment.
@simbolism1 You’re right. This is oligarchy#VoteNo #MedicareForAll @gop @HouseGOP @freedomcaucus pic.twitter.com/BooTD0Vosq
— Aimee DeMaio (@AimeeDemaio) May 4, 2017
re: #110 klys (maker of Silmarils)
BBC World Service is quiet at this time, so I guess we wait.
re: #110 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Oh no, that tough old bird.
Insanity
Rape victims here, Special Ed there. Trumpcare
A Little-Noticed Target in the House Health Bill: Special Education https://t.co/YIYfkABeHt— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) May 4, 2017
My brother and sister-in-law are due to show up shortly, so, as I listen to peacocks calling in the distance (really, not something we need, but there they are) I’ll say goodnight.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.
Prince Phillip made a major public appearance just this afternoon, opening a new stand at Lord’s Cricket Grounds. Prince Philip opens new £25million Warner Stand at Lord’s as redevelopment work is completed
He is 95 though, so he could be the picture of geriatric health one minute and gone the next.
Yep, it be serious…..
News Corp Australia Network: Queen Elizabeth’s entire staff called to ‘highly unusual’ emergency meeting at Buckingham Palace
QUEEN Elizabeth II’s entire staff from across the United Kingdom has been summoned to an emergency meeting at Buckingham Palace in London today, according to reports.
Servants will be addressed by the Royal Household’s most senior officer Lord Chamberlain and Her Majesty’s Private Secretary Sir Christopher Geidt in just hours. The meeting, called suddenly and described as highly unusual by royal watchers, has sent Britain’s rumour mill into a concerned frenzy.
It’s currently the middle of the night in London.
There is speculation that the announcement is to do with either the Queen or her husband the Duke of Edinburgh’s health.
Social media has erupted in panic with many offering theories about the announcement, from abdication to far more serious issues.The Mirror reports that even the most trusted of staff have been left in the cold as to what the meeting will be about.
re: #117 Shiplord Kirel
Prince Phillip made a major public appearance just this afternoon, opening a new stand at Lord’s Cricket Grounds. Prince Philip opens new £25million Warner Stand at Lord’s as redevelopment work is completed
He is 95 though, so he could be the picture of geriatric health one minute and gone the next.
Like I said, rumors.
I’d just like it to not be something that adds to the grief and sadness and general awfulness in the world right now, which I’m not feeling very well-equipped to deal with, but what I want and what happens in reality have really had very little to do with each other this year so. There’s that.
re: #14 Barefoot Grin
Fuck a buncha Hobby Lobby
In reality, fuck Jesus. Non-sacrificing piece of shit has pretty much wrecked any decent impulse that society could have.
I had lunch with my 105 year old grandmother on the last full day of her life. She had been posting on a special centenarian message board she had found and we chatted away about my grandchildren. There was nothing at all to indicate any kind of problem and she said she felt fine. She expressed some concern about my health, but not her own, and told me for about the thousandth time to quit smoking. She passed peacefully in her sleep that night.
I have quit smoking, btw.
re: #121 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Like I said, rumors.
I’d just like it to not be something that adds to the grief and sadness and general awfulness in the world right now, which I’m not feeling very well-equipped to deal with, but what I want and what happens in reality have really had very little to do with each other this year so. There’s that.
It looks bad though. It might be the queen herself, too, which almost doesn’t bear thinking about. Only the very oldest of old timers can remember any monarch other than Elizabeth II. I was born in England, while George VI was still alive but I was only 2 when he died and Elizabeth succeeded to the throne.
re: #13 HypnoToad
Stone Age instincts. Iron Age culture. Industrial Age technology.
A rather toxic mix.
re: #123 Shiplord Kirel
I have quit smoking, btw.
Besides not learning to be fluent in Spanish, smoking is one of my biggest regrets. I started when I was 15. I’ve quit so many times I can’t count. Tobacco is a menace.
re: #124 Shiplord Kirel
It looks bad though. It might be the queen herself, too, which almost doesn’t bear thinking about. Only the very oldest of old timers can remember any monarch other than Elizabeth II. I was born in England, while George VI was still alive but I was only 2 when he died and Elizabeth succeeded to the throne.
I think most of us feel admiration for someone who has lived her entire life in the public eye and never shirked her duty. And could still laugh at herself enough to do the James Bond entrance at the 2012 Olympics.
re: #123 Shiplord Kirel
I quit smoking nearly 10 years ago - had started when I was 15, and had been about a 30 year man. Best thing I ever did. Made SCUBA possible for me, and I feel a helluvalot better for it.
re: #126 teleskiguy
Besides not learning to be fluent in Spanish, smoking is one of my biggest regrets. I started when I was 15. I’ve quit so many times I can’t count. Tobacco is a menace.
Mark Twain said, “It’s easy to quit smoking; I’ve done it a hundred times.”
It probably took over a hundred tries for me and I was past 60 when I did quit.
re: #126 teleskiguy
I used the gum. Patches didn’t work - all I wanted to do was roll them up and smoke them. For whatever reason, gum worked better for me.
I talked to several who swore by hypnosis, but that sounded too much like woo.
We all slip sometimes. It’s how you bounce back that matters.
All smiles after leaving some skin on the skintrack today.
re: #132 retired cynic
ow
Caroline is a tough cookie! She’s skied shit that would make my blood run cold.
NEW: Just attended WH briefing on “religious liberty” executive order @realDonaldTrump will sign tomorrow. See details: pic.twitter.com/9Djwi7mdYZ
— Kelly O’Donnell (@KellyO) May 4, 2017
@KellyO @realDonaldTrump JFC. This is NOT “religious liberty.” It’s a roadmap to theocracy. https://t.co/JZhvQ3xQUd
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2017
You’d think you might at least try to avoid blaspheming in your tweet about how not forcing nuns to pay for contraceptives is theocracy https://t.co/dkt7wdlN4d
— Christopher Williams (@neon_shadows) May 4, 2017
re: #134 Charles Johnson
Be careful, those nuns are going to rap your knuckles…
re: #130 Botsplainer
I used the gum. Patches didn’t work - all I wanted to do was roll them up and smoke them. For whatever reason, gum worked better for me.
I talked to several who swore by hypnosis, but that sounded too much like woo.
I’m using lozenges this time. 2mg., but I’m having trouble quitting the lozenges. They taste good and they dissolve faster than gum so I actually get a noticeable bump of nicotine and a stimulus to the pleasure center of my brain with each one. I’ve started cutting them in half so I don’t get as big a bump with each and it’s getting easier to stretch out the spaces between bumps.
re: #134 Charles Johnson
His bio:
Working towards a political theology based upon patristic and scholastic tradition rather than enlightenment liberalism. Reactionary. Traditionalist.
You knows you in trouble now…
re: #130 Botsplainer
I used the gum. Patches didn’t work - all I wanted to do was roll them up and smoke them. For whatever reason, gum worked better for me.
I talked to several who swore by hypnosis, but that sounded too much like woo.
The gum worked for me too. The patches made me feel like I was over-dosing, since the dose is continuous. They made me very tense and nervous as time went on, and I couldn’t wait to tear them off at night. One time I started to have some minor chest pains. Minor or not, this is very frightening to a heart attack survivor. I tore the patch off and the pains went away. I switched immediately to the gum.
Cigarettes are smoked intermittently so it’s probably better for the substitute to work the same way.
re: #138 freetoken
Hey, dude’s honest in his “reactionary” label. That’s dude’s timeline is all kinds of crazy, especially religious crazy.
My wife and I followed through on a New Year’s semi-resolution and bought e-cigarettes in February in order to cut back on smoking. I smoked almost a pack of Marlboro Reds a day for over 50 years, and since I started with the e-cig I’ve all but stopped. I had 5 real cigarettes the first month and none since.
There were days I used to have 5 reds before lunch. So happy to have stopped, and I’m frankly surprised that it was as easy as it was.
My wife still smokes in addition to the e-cigs, but she’s down to about a pack per month.
re: #141 teleskiguy
Hey, dude’s honest in his “reactionary” label. That’s dude’s timeline is all kinds of crazy, especially religious crazy.
Yikes! He’s obviously just itching to roast him some heretics.
re: #138 freetoken
His bio:
You knows you in trouble now…
Sounds like a little but job that could stand to be taught the gospel rather than the garbage he’s spewing.
“In Greek mythology, Pheme…[snip] was the personification of fame and renown, her favour being notability, her wrath being scandalous rumors.”
en.wikipedia.org
Late Latin blasphemare from Greek βλασφημέω, from βλάπτω “injure” and φήμη “utterance, talk, speech”.
en.wikipedia.org
re: #117 Shiplord Kirel
Prince Phillip made a major public appearance just this afternoon, opening a new stand at Lord’s Cricket Grounds. Prince Philip opens new £25million Warner Stand at Lord’s as redevelopment work is completed
He is 95 though, so he could be the picture of geriatric health one minute and gone the next.
As usual, this appearance involved unveiling a plaque. Just before he pulled the cord, Phillip said, “You are about to see the world’s most experienced plaque unveiler.”
I really wish liberals would learn one lesson from conservatives: never back down.
.@StephenAtHome: “While I would do it again, I would change a few words that were cruder than they needed to be” https://t.co/vyX40cNGho
— Cristiano Lima (@ludacristiano) May 4, 2017
re: #38 HappyWarrior
Some people man.
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re: #149 Charles Johnson
It’s true. Fuckface Von Clownstick’s mouth is good for nothing but Vladimir Putin’s cock holster.
re: #141 teleskiguy
Hey, dude’s honest in his “reactionary” label. That’s dude’s timeline is all kinds of crazy, especially religious crazy.
There is a time and place for everything. I find being theologically liberal and liturgically reactionary works quite well. Give me my 1549 prayer book and this understanding of Christ:
You’d think you might at least try to avoid blaspheming in your tweet about how not forcing nuns to pay for contraceptives is theocracy https://t.co/dkt7wdlN4d
— Christopher Williams (@neon_shadows) May 4, 2017
?
‘You could safely assume the Queen and Prince Philip are not dead’, Buckingham Palace says amid reports of meeting https://t.co/dVZqFtjf7D pic.twitter.com/uIoJBa3aI8
— 1 NEWS (@1NewsNZ) May 4, 2017
re: #154 Shiplord Kirel
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Perhaps Prince Charles has decided to stand aside for his son in the line of succession?
re: #154 Shiplord Kirel
Maybe she’s announcing that Trump traded back the original 13 colonies in return for some prime golf properties in the British Virgin Islands?
re: #156 freetoken
Maybe she’s announcing that Trump traded back the original 13 colonies in return for some prime golf properties in the British Virgin Islands?
re: #155 William Lewis
Diana escaped from the Phantom Zone again.
I don’t think an emergency meeting would be held in the middle of the night except for something pretty drastic.
re: #159 retired cynic
I don’t think an emergency meeting would be held in the middle of the night except for something pretty drastic.
The cynic in me says that “not dead” doesn’t mean “not ill.”
re: #160 klys (maker of Silmarils)
The cynic in me says that “not dead” doesn’t mean “not ill.”
And they said the queen and Prince Phillip were alive. They didn’t say anything about Charles.
re: #149 Charles Johnson
Strong ass cosign!!!!!!
If the Queen and Philip are still with us, the next likely reason for the extraordinary meeting is an announcement of abdication. The Queen has been quoted indirectly many times saying that she will not do this, but the option is still hers. She is 91 and even the current, reduced schedule can be grueling.
I have predicted for years that Charles will reign only long enough to abdicate in turn and hand over to William. Charles has no choice but to become King, since the succession is rigidly defined by law, but how long he stays is up to him. At 68, he would be by far the oldest person ever to succeed to the throne. William is 35, which is nearly ideal for a new monarch. He is also enormously popular, something that cannot be said of his father.
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
Some wingnut on my FB is saying she and her family are praying for the health bill to be passed.
“Unfriend”
Stupid or hateful or both. (my mantra for yam supporters)
re: #162 allegro
And they said the queen and Prince Phillip were alive. They didn’t say anything about Charles.
That’s what I was wondering. Also, alive can mean different things.
re: #162 allegro
I feel like if it were a close death like Charles they wouldn’t speak on it like that. It would read as, ‘naw, wrong one’.
re: #157 teleskiguy
LMAO at original theory and your reply!
re: #63 mmmirele
Cult leader Tony Alamo died today. I put up a Page.
I first heard of Alamo when I was in law school, because of the Tony and Susan Alamo Foundation v. Dept of Labor case in 1985, which is still good law in 2017. Creepy evangelist Ernest Angley was found in violation of the federal wage and hour regulations and the judge based the decision in part on the Alamo Fdn case.
That’s one less asshole on the face of the Earth. I remember how Alamo’s Zombies would pass their flyers out saying the Pope was the Antichrist. And his wife Susan wore the most garish outfits that made Jan Crouch look like a Stepford wife. Alamo preached that his wife was immortal. But when she dies, his scam collapsed when he kept laying his hands on her at church services and prayed for JC and The Big G to resurrect her. Nevermind that she was looking more and more like Psycho’s Mrs. Bates…
re: #164 Shiplord Kirel
If the Queen and Philip are still with us, the next likely reason for the extraordinary meeting is an announcement of abdication. The Queen has been quoted indirectly many times saying that she will not do this, but the option is still hers. She is 91 and even the current, reduced schedule can be grueling.
Why would there be a late night emergency meeting for such an announcement? It would seem rather that there is a sudden crisis — some unexpected serious event, such as illness or death in the royal family.
re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter
Hope the babies are ok.
Yeah, it’s just Flint now. Just wait…
Flint puts 8,000 people on notice for foreclosure for unpaid water bills https://t.co/6CBC6wGwy1
— zellie (@zellieimani) May 3, 2017
Seriously??? https://t.co/Lx8CUUwBiv
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 4, 2017
re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter
Why would there be a late night emergency meeting for such an announcement? It would seem rather that there is a sudden crisis — some unexpected serious event, such as illness or death in the royal family.
It’s not late night. The meeting has been called for 8 AM, which is the usual time for big announcements. The meeting itself, the whole staff, is what is extraordinary and is normally done only where is something of dynastic importance to be announced.
(midnight LGF time, er, PDT)
re: #173 Shiplord Kirel
It’s not late night. The meeting has been called for 8 AM, which is the usual time for big announcements. The meeting itself, the whole staff, is what is extraordinary and is normally done only where is something of dynastic importance to be announced.
But we started talking about it here when it would have been 430am there. My assumption was that we weren’t the first to hear of it. And that it had been announced in the middle of the night there. May very well be wrong.
re: #174 retired cynic
But we started talking about it here when it would have been 430am there. My assumption was that we weren’t the first to hear of it. And that it had been announced in the middle of the night there. May very well be wrong.
I just looked at the BBC and UK Guardian webpages and they have nothing mentioning this…
re: #175 Joe Bacon
I just looked at the BBC and UK Guardian webpages and they have nothing mentioning this…
huh
I might as well go to bed!
That’s the trouble with so much of academia, and the so-called “elite” in government (such as former ambassadors): they don’t own the idea that Trump’s supporters are at war with them and what they (the elites) believe.
re: #174 retired cynic
But we started talking about it here when it would have been 430am there. My assumption was that we weren’t the first to hear of it. And that it had been announced in the middle of the night there. May very well be wrong.
Yeah, one problem with the abdication idea is that it wouldn’t be announced at such short notice, since it would obviously have been under consideration for a long time. I am with some others here, I really hope nothing has happened to one of the younger royals.
re: #179 Shiplord Kirel
William flys rescue helicopter and that can be a damn dangerous mission…
So yeah, hope not too.
Just noticed that this is likely one of the cutest bushtit shots I have taken in the past few days pic.twitter.com/GoQfp0T94k
— Sean McCann (@Ibycter) May 3, 2017
Bushtit.
re: #175 Joe Bacon
I just looked at the BBC and UK Guardian webpages and they have nothing mentioning this…
#buckinghampalace Been woken up by the boss to cover a story we can’t cover until 8am. hate this job sometimes
— Natalie Hunter (@NatHunter_BBC) May 4, 2017
The Palace will announce that my wifi has died with my landline. :(
Tech coming tomorrow.
I’m old enough to remember when the whole point of science was to question shit, not believe in it like religion.
— S.E. Cupp (@secupp) May 4, 2017
Spoken like a true ignoramus when it comes to science. https://t.co/5Kv2NMsOKQ
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 4, 2017
Here’s an optimist:
I hope the announcement from Buckingham Palace is that Her Majesty is dismissing the President of the United States and reclaiming the US.
— Logan Heiman (@LoganHeiman_) May 4, 2017
re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Just looked at the BBC News UK page and it just has a lot of articles about the UK local elections today and the polls showing Labour will be slaughtered…
What delusion @secupp is trying to sell, her own personal faux history.
— free token (@freetoken) May 4, 2017
Good thread from Joy. I’m still amazed by even some on the left, not alt-left either, who fall into both-sides bs.
Amazing fact: Democrats in 2010 were willing to lose their seats to expand healthcare. Republicans are gambling theirs on taking it away.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 4, 2017
re: #186 Joe Bacon
Just looked at the BBC News UK page and it just has a lot of articles about the UK local elections today and the polls showing Labour will be slaughtered…
Yes, it’s not 8am there yet. The tweet I linked above is a BBC reporter mentioning getting pulled out of bed to cover a story they can’t announce until 8am. Roughly 2 hours before that happens.
re: #185 Shiplord Kirel
Oh man, can we have their healthcare?
Anyway mr. klys is finally home so time to go get some dinner.
I’m old enough to remember when the whole point of science was to question shit, not believe in it like religion.
— S.E. Cupp (@secupp) May 4, 2017
I’m old enough to remember when dipshit pundits didn’t think they knew more about Science than Scientists.
I’m old enough to remember when if, if your hypothesis made testable predictions that turned out to be true, your hypothesis was accepted.
I’m old enough to remember when anyone challenging your work had to SHOW THE FUCKING DATA.
I’m old enough to remember when people could read a fucking graph.
@freetoken @secupp Cupp is like Earl Browder, the US Communist leader expelled from the party and kept trying to get back in their graces!
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) May 4, 2017
re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White
Or, put another way, “Oh, honey, no - that’s not how this works!”
“We have to hope we have… an adaptive personality…” - academic speaking about Trump.
um… Trump is 70 years old and shows signs of mental function decrease.
There’s no adaptation, just a slow decline ahead.
My mind continually tries to make sense of the cruelty this “healthcare” bill brings. All of the GOP theater surrounding it makes it even worse. They are proud of it.
I can’t fathom thinking this is okay in any way. I do not get it.
re: #195 freetoken
That’s the same grasp as the media saying ‘in this moment, he became President’. You have to know damn well what it is by now.
This is an autocrat in America. It already is.
re: #197 JordanRules
The talking head in question is in the video I posted. He’s hardly a Trumper, having campaigned for Hillary.
But he’s not willing to take the next step - to admit that Trump really can un-do the American foreign policy since WWII. Now, the talking-head probably has good reason to resist this idea, as he’s been part of the machinery to implement said foreign policy, and none of us want to give up our own children.
Yet the reality remains that Trump really can undo everything. Even if only by neglect. International relations can upend on the time-scale of years, not centuries.
Said academic wants to believe the US will carry on as it has, for the next several decades, at least until the middle of the century.
But if Trump is at all successful in implementing the deconstruction of society that the Bannon-ites desire, then it will only take a few years for global relationships to scramble into a real mess.
re: #199 freetoken
Didn’t see the vid and I appreciate the heads up and context. My mood is the “Yet the reality remains…” portion of your reply tonight. A lot has been destroyed or reverted already and yet I really do still have some hope. Tonight I’m pissed. I will continue to fight tomorrow though.
re: #175 Joe Bacon
I just looked at the BBC and UK Guardian webpages and they have nothing mentioning this…
That means there is a D-notice on the news, at least till 8 a.m. I think that is outdated terminology but essentially the government can prevent anything from being published, including the fact that a ban has been put in place. National security, of course.
re: #200 JordanRules
We can only hope that Le Pen loses by a large enough margin that her backers see her party as only a losing cause.
Otherwise, expect Trump to try to blow on the embers of ethno-nationalism in Europe.
Water horses, doing what they always do:
I notice that in cases as seen right now, when the little ones are on shore, there is one large adult with them. I don’t know how the hippos set up the baby-sitting schedule, but it’s clear that not all parents follow their offspring ashore, but just one or two parents.
More speculation:
At 8am London time, Buckingham Palace will announce that Queen Elizabeth has Trump’s tax returns.
— Christopher McKenzie (@xopherok) May 4, 2017
re: #205 Shiplord Kirel
In all fairness, that would be a YUGE news story with immediate global implications.
The fact that Fuckface Von Clownstick is now central to geopolitics…Makes. My. Blood. Fucking. Curdle.
Every time I discuss even light politics online with my friends abroad - both foreigners and expatriates - they convey how horrified they are and how the well-read locals think Americans are a bunch of rank amateurs.
Close to three hours ago I decided to go after some rando on Twitter, on a @BadAstronomer thread.
@natehanco You’re an idiot. The ACA was signed into law on 23 March 2010, 15 months after Obama took office. Many committee hearings and town halls.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 4, 2017
*crickets*
I want to go to bed but I am very curious about the news from Britain. I believe I will hang on for another hour…
re: #207 teleskiguy
The fact that Fuckface Von Clownstick is now central to geopolitics…Makes. My. Blood. Fucking. Curdle.
Every time I discuss even light politics online with my friends abroad - both foreigners and expatriates - they convey how horrified they are and how the well-read locals think Americans are a bunch of rank amateurs.
Americans are not amateurs — we’re idiots; especially because we use an Electoral College to determine the President. What other country counts more votes for one candidate and then awards the Presidency to the other?
re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg
I want to go to bed but I am very curious about the news from Britain. I believe I will hang on for another hour…
You’re talking about staying up until 2 a.m.! I say if you’re tired lay down and fall asleep. You’re going to find out one way or another.
re: #211 teleskiguy
I work a late shift. I am usually awake until around then anyway.
re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter
Smug idiots! As is the eternal want of empire.
re: #202 freetoken
Trump lusts for such power.
Yeah. I was raised British, and the US Constitution was one of the appealing aspects of the country to me. Not at the top of the list, but definitely on it. (Young Jerry Brown as governor was another, to give perspective, not least because he dated Linda Ronstadt.) One of the horrifying aspects of Brexit is that the UK will not be subject to European justice anymore …
re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter
What other country counts more votes for one candidate and then awards the Presidency to the other?
Hmmm, Russia?
#BuckinghamPalace this announcement better be important you got half the Western hemisphere staying up past our bedtime pic.twitter.com/BgbInxPHjO
— Supreme Hakim (@PhoenicianState) May 4, 2017
Robert Reich apparently appointed himself leader of the resistance.
Robert Reich, self righteous garden gnome, appoints himself doorkeeper of The Resistance. Look who’s cosigning him. pic.twitter.com/XiX06ULL4h
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) May 4, 2017
Man the #buckinghampalace tweets are fierce right now.
Looks like an announcement may not be made for another couple of hours.
re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg
Man the #buckinghampalace tweets are fierce right now.
Looks like an announcement may not be made for another couple of hours.
It’s like a firehose. I’ve just completely given up trying to follow them in Tweetdeck.
Over in the low-rent media district, the Sun has this:
The Queen’s former press secretary Dickie Arbiter lives up to his name as he tries to calm any unfounded rumours.
He speculates the meeting “could well be about the Buckingham Palace refurbishment”.
Arbiter, who served the Queen until 2000, tweeted: “Staff meetings are called from time to time nothing unusual & could well be about the Buckingham Palace refurbishment.” (emphasis added)
re: #208 teleskiguy
Close to three hours ago I decided to go after some rando on Twitter, on a @BadAstronomer thread.
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I have that tumbleweed gif too… looks like it was taken somewhere around here.
re: #225 Anymouse
I have that tumbleweed gif too… looks like it was taken somewhere around here.
Fuckers are non-native species of weed! A menace!
re: #211 teleskiguy
You’re talking about staying up until 2 a.m.! I say if you’re tired lay down and fall asleep. You’re going to find out one way or another.
As I lumber about on my computer at 2 a.m. It’s 3 a.m. where drangonfire1981 is. Who’d a thunk it.
re: #227 teleskiguy
Fuckers are non-native species of weed! A menace!
Yup. Russian Thistle. Accidentally imported with a shipment of flaxseed.
bbc.com
A viewers’ poll in France gives the televised debate to Emmanuel Macron over Marine Le Pen.
The candidates traded insults for more than two hours, arguing over terrorism, the economy, and Europe.
The French broadcaster BFMTV found voters had a more favourable view of Mr Macron than Ms Le Pen in most categories.
He was the “most convincing” of the pair in the opinion of 63% of viewers.
Ms Le Pen lambasted her rival for his finance and government background, accusing him of being “the candidate of savage globalisation” and said his version of France “is a trading room, where it will be everyone fighting for themselves”.
In turn, Mr Macron said the National Front leader had openly lied, proposed nothing, and exaggerated the concerns of the public.
“The high priestess of fear is sitting before me,” he said.
(more at the BBC)
#BuckinghamPalace calls an emergency meeting and I’m expecting the queen to just come out and say “May the 4th be with you” and drop the mic
— Stefan Mackay (@prodigystef) May 4, 2017
re: #47 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters
Conservative Christianity, not white Christianity.
Remember: the Clash of Cultures is not Christianity vs Islam, it is Fundamentalism vs Progressivism
Maybe it’s a pretend ‘we’re not home’ rehearsal for when Trump arrives. Everyone hide #BuckinghamPalace
— Nikki Clarke (@clarke442) May 4, 2017
re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White
Or, put another way, “Oh, honey, no - that’s not how this works!”
Yes, remember Rick Perry comparing Galileo standing up to the Church to people who question climate change?
Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson says America’s growing rejection of science could spell the end of the nation as we know it.“It’s the beginning of the end,” he told Yahoo News and Finance anchor Bianna Golodryga. “It’s the beginning of the end of an informed democracy, the moment people are debating whether an objectively established scientific truth is true. The moment that happens, there is no informed decision-making.”
Tyson, director of the Hayden Planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, said he was disturbed that government leaders were ignoring the scientific reports from the National Academy of Sciences.
“If you’re going to ignore their reports, there is no future for a country that wants to thrive in terms of its health and its wealth and its security,” he said.
More at Huffington Post
huffingtonpost.com
re: #235 Anymouse
Perhaps he’s being a wee bit overly dramatic.
The Know-Nothing movement of the 19th century was an escape, from accepting that their recent ancestors were immigrants too. The Know-Nothings then were anti-Catholic.
Today’s atavists’ boogeymen are Muslims, but the bigotry is all the same.
But we survived, as we did the Civil War which overtook the form of nationalism the Know-Nothings presented.
Now, of course, that’s sort of ominous in itself. What sort of existential threat will we have to face to wake up the wingnuts from their comatose-causing bigotry?
re: #237 freetoken
Now, of course, that’s sort of ominous in itself. What sort of existential threat will we have to face to wake up the wingnuts from their comatose-causing bigotry?
The Know-Nothings are being played by a cynical elite. They are ones we will have to take out.
Tyson is close to the truth, I think, but misses the bigger picture.
Americans of the Trumper stripe are not just rejecting science. They are rejecting modernity in all forms dogmatically, while ironically clinging to the toys of modern technology.
More fundamental than the rejecting of say climatology or evolution is the rejection of the classical liberal values of individual rights. Ironic again, that the wingnuts that like to fly banners that say “Don’t Tread on Me” are so willing to tread on others, and also to be manipulated by the rich and powerful who “tread” on the poor wignuts in subtle ways that the latter miss.
America is not in trouble because we don’t embrace science. We will get increasingly in trouble as we abandon the last 200 years of progress in human rights and international relations.
re: #237 freetoken
Perhaps he’s being a wee bit overly dramatic.
The Know-Nothing movement of the 19th century was an escape, from accepting that their recent ancestors were immigrants too. The Know-Nothings then were anti-Catholic.
Today’s atavists’ boogeymen are Muslims, but the bigotry is all the same.
But we survived, as we did the Civil War which overtook the form of nationalism the Know-Nothings presented.
Now, of course, that’s sort of ominous in itself. What sort of existential threat will we have to face to wake up the wingnuts from their comatose-causing bigotry?
Perhaps not.
The Republicans are dead set on eviscerating eduction, science, and the social safety net.
The Know-Nothing anti-Catholic/anti-immigrant movement didn’t survive long, but didn’t attack the fundamentals of a capitalist society or technological advance.
Today’s nihilists are interested in destroying what makes the USA the most powerful economic force in the history of the world.
If the Republicans are set on turning away from science and technology and in favour of theocracy. then Professor Tyson is indeed correct. Even the military requires education and science - the military would decline just as fast as the economy.
re: #239 freetoken
Tyson is close to the truth, I think, but misses the bigger picture.
Americans of the Trumper stripe are not just rejecting science. They are rejecting modernity in all forms dogmatically, while ironically clinging to the toys of modern technology.
These are the same people who reject Evolution but embrace Social Darwinism.
STATE’S RIGHTS!!1!
Congress has narrowly voted to overturn an Obama-era rule designed to guide states as they create retirement savings programs for low-income workers.
The Republican-led Senate voted 50-49 Wednesday to reject the Labor Department rule, sending the measure to President Donald Trump.
With an estimated 55 million Americans lacking access to retirement savings plans at their jobs, some Democratic-leaning states have been working to fill the void.
re: #240 Anymouse
The Know-Nothing anti-Catholic/anti-immigrant movement didn’t survive long, but didn’t attack the fundamentals of a capitalist society or technological advance.
The Know-Nothings though attacked the human rights of Catholics and immigrants. This is their big ugly, the reason they are derided by those who care about an open and free society.
What an edgy framing of fascism! How fun and original! pic.twitter.com/YVYdfIpALL
— Marie Le Conte (@youngvulgarian) May 3, 2017
re: #245 Anymouse
What an edgy framing of fascism! How fun and original!
Yes, even Milo Youngenoughforus is trying to re-brand himself as a champion of Free Speech and enemy of Political Correctness.
An essay from a Christian writer who did not support Donald Trump on why it is incorrect to call people who did “fake Christians.”
More at the link above (later down in his article he notes the “illiberal Jesus” is just as valid in the New Testament as the liberal one:
There are a lot of Christians out there who don’t want support for #IllegitimatePresident Donald Trump to define their faith. I understand them. I’m as outraged and disgusted as anyone that the white Evangelicals I come from are the demographic most singularly responsible for bringing us this nightmare presidency, and that they remain Trump’s most supportive demographic. Conservative Christianity in the U.S. is undoubtedly authoritarian through and through, and those of us who escaped from it have been sounding the alarm on this for some time. Does that mean, however, that we can dismiss as “fake” those Christians who understood voting for our incompetent, volatile, pussy-grabbing narcissist-in-chief precisely as a religious imperative? Spoiler alert: No. There are no solid intellectual grounds for equating Trump support with “fake” as opposed to “real” Christianity. Politically, such an approach may be cathartic. It may even be of some immediate tactical value in some engagements. But as the claim underlying this approach is patently false, I believe we will be better off in the long run without using it.
re: #247 Anymouse
A lot of these people are looking at the long game: Trump impeached and Mike Pence as President.
That would be a theocratic wet dream come true for them.
Would Pence’s wife them be our “First Mother”?
re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
A lot of these people are looking at the long game: Trump impeached and Mike Pence as President.
That would be a theocratic wet dream come true for them.
Would Pence’s wife them be our “First Mother”?
I would like to see Mike Pence taken way the same way Spiro Agnew was. (As I recall, there is an investigation into Mike Pence’s misuse of state funds and his and his wife’s AOL mail accounts while he was governor of Indiana).
That would still leave us with Paul Ryan, though, which might be worse than Pence - each potential replacement seems worse than the last.
It would seem the best strategy is to try to spike the worst of Mr. Trump’s nonsense with an eye to taking the House away from the GOP in 2018. The special elections coming up would seem to be an early barometer for that (Osoff in GA6 and Quist in Montana).
re: #249 Anymouse
I would like to see Mike Pence taken way the same way Spiro Agnew was. (As I recall, there is an investigation into Mike Pence’s misuse of state funds and his and his wife’s AOL mail accounts while he was governor of Indiana).
That would still leave us with Paul Ryan, though, which might be worse than Pence - each potential replacement seems worse than the last.
If Pence is ousted first, there’ll have to be a VP nominee, subject to Senate confirmation. They’d want to avoid an ugly confirmation battle, so they’d pick someone the D’s find… less objectionable than they’d find most R’s.
re: #250 sagehen
If Pence is ousted first, there’ll have to be a VP nominee, subject to Senate confirmation. They’d want to avoid an ugly confirmation battle, so they’d pick someone the D’s find… less objectionable than they’d find most R’s.
On the other hand, the issue with Michael Flynn appears to include Mike Pence (in that Mike Pence knew about Flynn’s foreign entanglements). It’s possible (though I am not a lawyer or cop) that the Feds might get Pence.
re: #247 Anymouse
Yes, I can see why you’d like that essay. It fits your preconceived notions rather perfectly. Theological garbage but that’s to be expected.
re: #250 sagehen
If Pence is ousted first, there’ll have to be a VP nominee, subject to Senate confirmation. They’d want to avoid an ugly confirmation battle, so they’d pick someone the D’s find… less objectionable than they’d find most R’s.
Replacement of the Vice President goes through both the House and the Senate per the 25th Amendment.
Given the crazies in the House and the inability for Ryan to actually manage them, anyone acceptable for Democrats in the Senate would be unacceptable to the crazies.
re: #253 Timothy Watson
Replacement of the Vice President goes through both the House and the Senate per the 25th Amendment.
Given the crazies in the House and the inability for Ryan to actually manage them, anyone acceptable for Democrats in the Senate would be unacceptable to the crazies.
Unless the crazies recognize that their own job security is at stake. In which case, they’ll grit their teeth and approve some relatively centrist milquetoast far too old to even think of running in the next election. Maybe Susan Collins or Olympia Snow, so R’s can grab the “first woman” sweepstakes.
re: #252 William Lewis
Yes, I can see why you’d like that essay. It fits your preconceived notions rather perfectly. Theological garbage but that’s to be expected.
“My preconceived notions?”
Perhaps you can explain what is wrong with the writer’s analysis?
re: #252 William Lewis
Yes, I can see why you’d like that essay. It fits your preconceived notions rather perfectly. Theological garbage but that’s to be expected.
It would appear that you disagree with this particular Christian’s interpretation of Christianity. With the Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, and about five thousand Protestant sects all claiming they are “true Christians,” I don’t see how the claim of, say, an Episcopalian saying “well, Nazarenes or big-box churchgoers aren’t true Christians” makes any more sense than they saying that about an Episcopalian.
They all hate on my sister’s church (the MCC), though there is far more Biblical support for the evangelical position against same-sex marriage than the MCC position supporting it.
re: #253 Timothy Watson
Replacement of the Vice President goes through both the House and the Senate per the 25th Amendment.
Given the crazies in the House and the inability for Ryan to actually manage them, anyone acceptable for Democrats in the Senate would be unacceptable to the crazies.
Then they should leave the post of Vice President unoccupied until the next election…worked for the SCOTUS
re: #256 Anymouse
They all hate on my sister’s church (the MCC), though there is far more Biblical support for the evangelical position against same-sex marriage than the MCC position supporting it.
The marriage issue is a case of making a distinction between the sacrament of holy matrimony and the legal status of marriage.
There was a time when the two were identical. That is no longer so. Case in point:
When my grandmother got divorced (in the 1920’s), the Catholic Church refused to recognize that she was no longer married, and when she remarried, she became an adulteress in their eyes.
If a church wants to deny a couple the status of being married in God’s eyes, they can all they want, but the Law of the Land makes it clear that their legal status is the same regardless of whether they are identical or mixed gender.
I so don’t use Google News anymore. After Trump won it seems like the “news” just wasn’t the same anymore.
And Google changed its News (like it does all its products) in small ways that made it less appealing to me. They got rid of some of the user-defined topics.
And I’ve had to add so many “sources” to the preference list to move them down to “rarely” that I just got tired of having to do that. Google promulgates junk “news” as much as any outlet.
News is so different than when I was a child. Perhaps back then there was a false sense of reality, simply a result of only a few national outlets and that perhaps led us to give those few sources more gravitas than they really deserved. Don’t know…
re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The marriage issue is a case of making a distinction between the sacrament of holy matrimony and the legal status of marriage.
There was a time when the two were identical. That is no longer so. Case in point:
When my grandmother got divorced (in the 1920’s), the Catholic Church refused to recognize that she was no longer married, and when she remarried, she became an adulteress in their eyes.
If a church wants to deny a couple the status of being married in God’s eyes, they can all they want, but the Law of the Land makes it clear that their legal status is the same regardless of whether they are identical or mixed gender.
Sacrament of holy matrimony and legal status of marriage being equivalent: Nope. Judges, ship captains, &c have always been able to perform marriages, recognised as such in the eyes of the law, without any intervention of a church (holy matrimony).
I was married to my wife in private (just her and me) with a simple declaration and a signature on a marriage license, witnessed by two waitresses in a restaurant. That civil private marriage has exactly the same standing in any court as one performed by a pastor or priest.
As for the Catholic Church (or any other) choosing to view a person as an adultress for remarriage, that still has no effect on the civil nature of marriage. Adultery is a religious crime (sin), it has no force in law (other than the UCMJ).
The whole bread & circuses thing has gone wildly out of control. We can blame TV, and Marshal McLuhan warned us, I guess, but few seemed to really have grasped the important message.
We are now slaves to our creation.
re: #259 freetoken
I’ll be 35 years old on Sunday. I think I can understand and distill your thought process. News has been going through dissolution too fast for regular folks to keep up with, and now that people get to pick and choose their news sources, it’s deteriorated into something close to The Jungle.
You’re not far off with that assessment. But, I wasn’t there back then when “The News” was curated by Edward Murrow and Walter Cronkite.
We’ll call it the dissolution of news, I guess.
So, the big announcement really was about Prince Phillip. He’s not dead. He’s just decided to retire from being the royal somebody at events.
re: #262 teleskiguy
I’ll be 35 years old on Sunday. I think I can understand and distill your thought process. News has been going through dissolution too fast for regular folks to keep up with, and now that people get to pick and choose their news sources, it’s deteriorated into something close to The Jungle.
You’re not far off with that assessment. But, I wasn’t there back then when “The News” was curated by Edward Murrow and Walter Cronkite.
We’ll call it the dissolution of news, I guess.
Congradumalashuns on your thirty-fifth arbitrary point on the Earth’s orbit! I turn fifty-seven at the end of the month (and there are an amazing number of people who have told me in the past I must be lying about my birthday “because there aren’t 31 days in May”).
Well, being confused about Andrew Jackson and all …
You can’t make this stuff up: Trump commemorated at his Virginia golf course a Civil War battle that never happened https://t.co/Wzfz7REjK8 pic.twitter.com/KelWs1Q71t
— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) May 2, 2017
re: #262 teleskiguy
In the Good Old Days (before the “new media”), disseminating news was an expensive proposition. And in the case of broadcasting, there were a limited number of channels or wavelengths available.
One’s reputation as a news agency was at stake with every report or print edition. Loss of reputation could result in loss of audience/readership and thus a loss in revenue. That helped keep most news agencies in line.
Now the costs are minimal, and the the channels available all but unlimited
And we have seen that reputations can be highly resilient in the world of post-factual reporting
re: #262 teleskiguy
When I was a kid we did have TV.
It was b&w. Less than 19” diagonal. By the time I was a teenager we had a 19” b&w. It wasn’t until I was nearing graduation that we had color.
I think we got 3 channels reliably, another one less reliably. Two of those channels were NBC, so that duplicated. Eventually PBS was added, made a fourth channel (and my first exposure to Dr. Who, as PBS used to exploit BBC programming to fill hours.)
Anyway, the “news” was Walter Cronkite. NBC had their pair of Huntley and Brinkley who were more entertaining.
And that was it.
The local paper ran AP and UPI stories. The regional newspaper had their local and state and even DC based reporters, but if lucky I only got to read the big Sunday edition.
So yes, life was simpler. The “news” was more straightforward.
It may not have been any more true than news today, in some absolute sense of that word.
However, reporting was more straightforward.
Journalism was taught in college and University and had a more educated slant to it than the popular media today.
The likes of Breitbart, Bannon, etc. were then found in the numerous newsletters that covered the land. The above would have been typical of the JBS, the ideological predecessor to Bannon et. al. But there was no doubt that there was “the news” and real journalism, and then the newsletters and junk magazines.
As I noted, that doesn’t mean journalism back then was only about truth. I’m sure Cronkite read stories online that were in part propaganda.
But at least it was erudite propaganda, not the low-rent stuff we find today everywhere.
re: #267 freetoken
Journalism was taught in college and University and had a more educated slant to it than the popular media today.
The likes of Breitbart, Bannon, etc. were the found in the numerous newsletters that covered the land. The above would have been typical of the JBS, the ideological predecessor to Bannon et. al. But there was no doubt that there was “the news” and real journalism, and then the newsletters and junk magazines.
As I noted, that doesn’t mean journalism back then was only about truth. I’m sure Cronkite read stories online that were in part propaganda.
But at least it was erudite propaganda, not the low-rent stuff we find today everywhere.
Breitbart and Drudge were among the first to figure out that all they had to do was to float a story out there in the Internet long enough, and it would get picked up and reported on by other media as if it actually had some merit.
That is the tactic employed to great success by paid trolls and hackers now everywhere.
And the “traditional” networks, forced to cut corners everywhere to compete, find themselves falling for it way too often.
As soon as “trending on Twitter” became a news item of its own, I knew that our days as a free and democratic society were numbered…
Liberals have to stop trying to win over Trump voters with facts. You’re wasting your breath. #TrumpVoters #ChangeAnxiety pic.twitter.com/WelL5xbf2t
— Bill Maher (@billmaher) April 29, 2017
re: #267 freetoken
Quality journalism to the selected scum fucks that represent Fuckface Von Clownstick - characters like Jim Hoft and Mike Cernovich - only requires 100% loyalty and total antagonism and hate to all outlets that disagree.
Case in point. We’ve devolved as a species.
re: #262 teleskiguy
We’ll call it the dissolution of news, I guess.
As near as I can tell, sometime between WWI and WWII, journalism in America started to move upward, in quality. I wonder if radio was the driving force. Or maybe the Great Depression. Perhaps both.
Newspapers of the 19th century are a hoot to read sometime. Mostly the local papers carried useful information like adverts and legal notices. But there were plenty of hoaxes and questionable stories that would get passed around.
One can tell in reading books, of history, local history and local figures, that there was a shift that happened in this country in the early 20th century.
One of the things I’ve learned doing genealogy.
Reading books from the 19th century, the “history” can be quite… loose in regards to facts.
Perhaps the wider advent of education and college in the early 20th century is what forced writers - either books or newspapers - to start and try to be more circumspect.
Anyway, along with throwing out cursive writing, today’s all-electronic age may have thrown out those advancements in “news”.
Border agents wrongly telling asylum seekers the USA no longer accepts them.
huffingtonpost.com
(more at the link):
More than 100 individuals and families seeking safety in the U.S. were turned away by border agents from November to April, a new report alleges, some of them after being told the country no longer accepts asylum-seekers.
In one case documented by Human Rights First, a nonprofit advocacy group, a Customs and Border Protection agent allegedly told an asylum-seeker that things were different under President Donald Trump.
“Trump says we don’t have to let you in,” the officer said, according to an attorney cited in the report.
In another example, a Mexican woman said CBP told her the U.S. is granting asylum only to people who are killed for being Christians in other countries, “not people like you.”
re: #271 freetoken
As near as I can tell, sometime between WWI and WWII, journalism in America started to move upward, in quality. I wonder if radio was the driving force. Or maybe the Great Depression. Perhaps both.
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Technology.
Printing presses, paper and ink got cheaper. Trucks meant daily editions could be distributed further. Plus population growth meant more readers, and there’s a lot of useful things to do with newspapers even if you don’t read them.
Did you ever wonder why, in old movies, when a woman goes into labor somebody screams “bring newspapers!!”?
It’s because big city papers had a morning edition, an afternoon edition, and a late evening final. Cheap newsprint is absorbant, the presses ran hot enough to sterilize them, so a few copies of the latest issue was guaranteed to be cleaner than the sheets and towels you had lying around the apartment. And you could throw it away after instead of having to do laundry.
Neither here nor there, but in the 1920s and 1930s my grandmother and her sister lived on the opposite sides (west-east) of Illinois and exchanged letters daily. How could they do this? Mail was overnight across the state and there were two deliveries per day, morning and afternoon.
All of that “emergency meeting” a Buckingham Palace shit? Prepare to be very let down, fellow lizards….
BBC: Prince Philip to step down from carrying out royal engagements
The Duke of Edinburgh is retiring from royal duties this autumn, Buckingham Palace has announced.
The decision was made by Prince Philip himself and is supported by the Queen, a palace spokesman said.
The duke, who turns 96 next month, will attend previously scheduled engagements between now and August but will not accept new invitations.
The Queen “will continue to carry out a full programme of official engagements”, the palace said.
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Also off topic—just occurred to me that in two years today it will be the 100th anniversary of China’s May Fourth Movement. I wonder what the CCP’s got cooking?
(In Japan today is みどりの日 or Green Day; nothing to do with the band, however….)
re: #278 Barefoot Grin
Also off topic—just occurred to me that in two years today it will be the 100th anniversary of China’s May Fourth Movement. I wonder what the CCP’s got cooking?
A celebration that they are on course to overtake the US as an economic power…
re: #278 Barefoot Grin
Also off topic—just occurred to me that in two years today it will be the 100th anniversary of China’s May Fourth Movement. I wonder what the CCP’s got cooking?
(In Japan today is みどりの日 or Green Day; nothing to do with the band, however….)
A procession of stormtroopers?
re: #278 Barefoot Grin
Also off topic—just occurred to me that in two years today it will be the 100th anniversary of China’s May Fourth Movement. I wonder what the CCP’s got cooking?
(In Japan today is みどりの日 or Green Day; nothing to do with the band, however….)
Greenery Day, according to Wiki
re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Though I lived among them, never should I pretend to every really understand them:
そうそう、いつの日か買ったけど一回もつけてない…笑
私には白と黒が一番似合うよね、それは自分でも分かってる。
つけて欲しい人RT笑#円 #サポ #サポ募集 #出会い #胸 #病み垢さんフォロバする #みどりの日 #みどりの日なので緑色の画像を貼る pic.twitter.com/vKwFwNzBe8— あやな (@IMwC4a9CJFB6Q6Y) May 4, 2017
re: #283 freetoken
Though I lived among them, never should I pretend to every really understand them:
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So on Green Day, you’re supposed to wear green knickers? /
re: #285 freetoken
Something like that…
Asian countries have a holiday for everything and everybody. ;-)
re: #288 wheat-dogg
Maybe the day will come, centuries in the future, that whoever is living here in the US will do likewise.
Long after our wild-west mentality fades and American cities start to become “ancient”, maybe the society here too will have a endless calendar of not-understood-any-more special days.
re: #289 freetoken
Maybe the day will come, centuries in the future, that whoever is living here in the US will do likewise.
Long after our wild-west mentality fades and American cities start to become “ancient”, maybe the society here too will have a endless calendar of not-understood-any-more special days.
Groundhog Day, for example.
re: #290 wheat-dogg
Groundhog Day, for example.
In the year 2654 in what was once Pennsylvania, some old guy will go around town telling people about ground hogs and the arrival of Spring… and no one will believe him.
Probably because by then it will probably not have snowed in PA for some time.
re: #291 freetoken
In the year 2654 in what was once Pennsylvania, some old guy will go around town telling people about ground hogs and the arrival of Spring… and no one will believe him.
Probably because by then it will probably not have snowed in PA for some time.
Hopefully, by 2654, humanity is on its way to the Andromeda galaxy to fuck up shit there…
By 2818 in Spanglish America, young people will hear stories about the strange Mormons on the fringe of town who celebrate a secret ritual called “Thanksgiving.”
re: #283 freetoken
Though I lived among them, never should I pretend to every really understand them:
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Condoms called “skinless skin” among my favorite usages of English.
The first holiday in Virginia is now forgotten: by decree, 22 March was supposed to be celebrated as a holiday, in remembrance of the “Great Massacre”:
But how many people recognize it today?
How soon are big events forgotten by the passage of time.
re: #296 freetoken
The first holiday in Virginia is now forgotten: by decree, 22 March was supposed to be celebrated as a holiday, in remembrance of the “Great Massacre”:
But how many people recognize it today?
How soon are big events forgotten by the passage of time.
Dammit, why didn’t you tell about that earlier in the year? I would have demanded the day off!
Morning all…….
“Morning Joe” co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski are engaged: https://t.co/emG0BgkOod pic.twitter.com/VuzwMBCLii
— The Hill (@thehill) May 4, 2017
Excuse me, I need to go brush my teeth…. Blah!
re: #296 freetoken
The first holiday in Virginia is now forgotten: by decree, 22 March was supposed to be celebrated as a holiday, in remembrance of the “Great Massacre”:
But how many people recognize it today?
How soon are big events forgotten by the passage of time.
Monday will be a holiday in France (VE Day) but not in Germany. Russia celebrates VE Day on May 9th, as the surrender was signed after 11 PM in Berlin, which was already midnight in Moscow.
re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Betcha most Americans don’t even remember VE day…
re: #298 Dave In Austin
Morning all…….
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Excuse me, I need to go brush my teeth…. Blah!
Are they going to invite Trump to their wedding? Maybe hold it at Mar-a-Lago?
The BBC makes its presenters wear those fake poppies on historic days, to try and preserve some memories.
Maybe it works. For a while. But there may be no BBC in 50 years and thus the tradition will fade.
I remember when I was young that people around town would wear poppies on the big War memorial days.
But I’ve not seen someone here in California wear a memorial since … I can’t remember.
re: #300 freetoken
Betcha most Americans don’t even remember VE day…
was kinda irrelevant, we still had a war to finish
re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And half of America is “remembering” some fake event that Trump pretends happened.
re: #302 freetoken
The BBC makes its presenters wear those fake poppies on historic days, to try and preserve some memories.
Maybe it works. For a while. But there may be no BBC in 50 years and thus the tradition will fade.
I remember when I was young that people around town would wear poppies on the big War memorial days.
But I’ve not seen someone here in California wear a memorial since … I can’t remember.
My mom was a member of the VFW Auxiliary and had me out at the shopping center selling them on Veteran’s Day.
Just so @CongMikeSimpson knows. A yes vote on the AHCA will translate into a no vote come election time. Choose wisely and vote no
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) May 4, 2017
WWI has pretty much slipped from America’s memory.
WWII is still around in some minds… but I wonder if there weren’t so many movies and TV shows based in WWII… and if so much fiction (especially time travel stories) weren’t so fixated on Hitler… how long it would take us to forget?
The A-bomb was a big deal. But at least half of America now has no real memory of the hot years of the cold war.
re: #307 freetoken
WWI has pretty much slipped from America’s memory.
…as has any real awareness of what Fascism was about.
Anyway, I guess my take-away is that time is a very good eraser.
Know that from genealogy - the memory of an ancestor slips away after about 3 generations.
re: #307 freetoken
WWII is still around in some minds… but I wonder if there weren’t so many movies and TV shows based in WWII… and if so much fiction (especially time travel stories) weren’t so fixated on Hitler… how long it would take us to forget?
And video games, god, the number of WW2 video games out there.
re: #12 bratwurst
@nytpolitics @YLindaQiu Brilliant. Comparing outright GOP lies to the worst case scenarios figured by Democrats. This isn’t both sides. This is just nonsense.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 4, 2017
The Washington Post Fact Checker *verified* that pre-existing conditions are not protected.https://t.co/bHDmRR3A73
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) May 4, 2017
Pear NYT: “The AMA &10 organizations representing patients…reiterated their opposition to the House GOP bill on Wed, as did…AARP”
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) May 4, 2017
No one who cares about patients (or hospitals) backs the #AHCA. The only ones who benefit are healthy millionaires. #ProtectOurCare #voteNO https://t.co/G8uhXhFqZJ
— Miranda Yaver (@mirandayaver) May 4, 2017
re: #265 Anymouse
Can this please be re-tweeted to any idiots that believe Trump’s comments on Jackson were some kind of advanced historical thesis?
re: #312 Mike Lamb
Can this please be re-tweeted to any idiots that believe Trump’s comments on Jackson were some kind of advanced historical thesis?
Did you think they would believe those evil pointy-head liberal academics?
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ALERT: 159M Americans w/ employer coverage could lose protections that limit out-of-pocket costs under Trumpcare https://t.co/zi3xrTlRib
— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) May 4, 2017
The GOP plan essentially fucks over everyone w/health insurance. The GOP is perfectly fine with this? Of course they are, because tax cuts https://t.co/St2NwTHvIQ
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 4, 2017
Oh, and the GOP plan defunds Planned Parenthood too.
Every fucking thing the GOP does regarding health care is going to make the health and wellbeing of Americans far worse.
Not a single provision improves care, coverage, or costs. It burdens everyone with higher premiums, and will increase medically induced bankruptcies, but at least the rich folks get their tax cuts.
re: #314 lawhawk
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Oh, and the GOP plan defunds Planned Parenthood too.
Every fucking thing the GOP does regarding health care is going to make the health and wellbeing of Americans far worse.
Not a single provision improves care, coverage, or costs. It burdens everyone with higher premiums, and will increase medically induced bankruptcies, but at least the rich folks get their tax cuts.
Because the Free Market is an ideology, not just a macroeconomic mechanism.
re: #307 freetoken
WWI has pretty much slipped from America’s memory.
WWII is still around in some minds… but I wonder if there weren’t so many movies and TV shows based in WWII… and if so much fiction (especially time travel stories) weren’t so fixated on Hitler… how long it would take us to forget?
The A-bomb was a big deal. But at least half of America now has no real memory of the hot years of the cold war.
We sent troops to WWI, but nowhere near the scale of WWII.
The 1942 draft inducted all able-bodied men 18-34. ALL of them. The entire Ivy League student body. All of major league baseball. The President’s sons, cabinet’s sons, Senate/Congress’ sons. ALL of them.
And that’s not even counting the volunteers — people too young to be drafted. Too old to be drafted. Too female to be drafted. Not entirely able-bodied.
At the height of the war, a full 10% of our population was in uniform on battlefields — 15 million American troops, when the whole country had 150 million people.
The non-combatants… worked at the factories that supplied our military and all our allies. We built 100,000 airplanes. Ford, GM and American Motors had no 1943-1945 model years. They made 0 civilian vehicles for the entire duration, their production lines were turned over entirely to tanks and jeeps and the factories ran at full capacity 24-7. Cities and states and counties subsidized 24-hour nursery schools, so the mothers of young children could work 60-hour works. People too old for factory work turned their lawns into vegetable gardens. Adolescents scrounged for recyclables.
We recruited trainloads of Mexicans to come up and do farm-work — even if all the women hadn’t been working at factories, they certainly couldn’t go do farm work dawn-to-dusk 150 miles away with the blackouts and gasoline rationing. Plus we needed to drastically increase production, so we could feed all those overseas soldiers (ours and allies).
And when it all ended — it was the grand triumph, they couldn’t have done it without us, we were left with the only intact industrial economy in the world, and we did it all from the moral high ground.
This isn’t something we’re going to forget in a hurry.
re: #316 sagehen
My dad was born in 1914, but he was 4F due to an auto accident, had three kids already and worked in a steel mill rolling steel plate for shipbuilding.
Two of my uncles served.
And we sent Russia nearly a quarter million trucks, which helped the Red Army roll clear across Poland and into Berlin in less than a year.
re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
My dad was born in 1914, but he was 4F due to an auto accident, had three kids already and worked in a steel mill rolling steel plate for shipbuilding.
Two of my uncles served.
And we sent Russia nearly a quarter million trucks, which helped the Red Army roll clear across Poland and into Berlin in less than a year.
My dad had just completed basic when WWII ended. Thankful for that. Uncles served, but no one ever talked about the war. They spoke much more often about the Great Depression and how it shaped the family (my grandfather worked for a university, so my dad’s cousins all came from their farms and lived in my grandfather’s house while studying there; those cousins also worked their farm while their father was off working for one of FDR’s programs—WPA, I think).
re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And compared to everyone else, our losses were minuscule.
The Soviets lost 15% of their population, a bunch of European and Asian nations lost almost that much. All of Europe and Asia was flattened. Britain and the Ottomans lost their Empires.
We lost… 3% of our troops, a few dozen civilians, and none of our infrastructure.
re: #319 sagehen
The phrase “WWII” will remain in the American lexicon for quite some time, but the meaning, the cause and effects, the people involved, will slip away quickly from memory.
We already see that with the US Civil War. Sure, the phrase “Civil War” is commonly known, but how much does the average 25 year old American really know about it? Since in television and large screen productions there are still plenty of references, there may be some identification of key players (Lincoln, Grant), but if we can learn anything from the onslaught of revisionist history about that event - claims that it was not really about slavery - it is that the facts of the war are not widely known.
re: #321 freetoken
We already see that with the US Civil War. Sure, the phrase “Civil War” is commonly known, but how much does the average 25 year old American really know about it? Since in television and large screen productions there are still plenty of references, there may be some identification of key players (Lincoln, Grant), but if we can learn anything from the onslaught of revisionist history about that event - claims that it was not really about slavery - it is that the facts of the war are not widely known.
One can make a case that slavery was not the only cause of the Civil War, but the leap from there to “Slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War” requires some serious white supremacist revisionism.
I have often heard the argument that most Confederate soldiers were not even slave owners…but they neglect to mention that owners of more than 20 slaves were exempted from the draft: they had to stay home and tend their plantations and see to the protection of their wives and family…
re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
One can make a case that slavery was not the only cause of the Civil War, but the leap from there to “Slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War” requires some serious white supremacist revisionism.
I have often heard the argument that most Confederate soldiers were not even slave owners…but they neglect to mention that owners of more than 20 slaves were exempted from the draft: they had to stay home and tend their plantations and see to the protection of their wives and family…
And make sure the slaves didn’t rebel.
The only reason I know what little I know about the Civil War is that I’ve tried to research some ancestors involved in it. That made me read things that I otherwise would not have read.
re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Substantially, the Civil War was a long time coming. It was quite clear even a decade before it actually started that things were coming apart. The whole Compromise of 1850 was quite the topic of conversation, if newspaper accounts are to believed.
The slavery-sympathetic revisionists are thus presented with a problem: how to explain the importance of the Compromise in American politics of the time.
re: #323 Belafon
And make sure the slaves didn’t rebel.
that’s what i meant by “see to the protection of their wives and family…”
re: #324 freetoken
The only reason I know what little I know about the Civil War is that I’ve tried to research some ancestors involved in it. That made me read things that I otherwise would not have read.
Substantially, the Civil War was a long time coming. It was quite clear even a decade before it actually started that things were coming apart. The whole Compromise of 1850 was quite the topic of conversation, if newspaper accounts are to believed.
The slavery-sympathetic revisionists are thus presented with a problem: how to explain the importance of the Compromise in American politics of the time.
There was full-scale warfare going on in Kansas as early as 1856.
re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
America really started to change dramatically after the so-called “Indian Wars” (of which Trump is no doubt quite proud.)
It was at that time, as the US was forcing out natives from the Seminoles to the Cherokee, that the colonial past really began to be cut off from what came later known as the US.
If you look up the invention then application of the pensions for Revolutionary War servicemen, then for their widows, it is at that time in the 1830s when we see the generations turning over… the “patriots” of the Revolution going away, and the new America springing up.
An America based on land redistribution in mass. Really big “mass”. An entire continent of rapid expansion and land claims (great for genealogy today, bad for the Natives of the time.)
And it was at this time when various social movements around slavery grow. On occasion I’ve tried to check out newspapers from that time, and you start to see the letters, the editorials, the news reports (of tussles over capturing escaped slaves, of returning them, etc.)
I wonder if some future historians will look back on the America of the 1840’s as a time of “enlightenment” - when people started to get serious over slavery - or whether it will be seen as a time of backwardness.
Regardless, I propose the die was cast by the time of the Mexican-American war. The outcome (and was there any doubt about who would win?) sealed the fate - once the US was going to be a nation-state from shore to shore, the land grab peaked, we wanted people to set up farms all over the continent, thus requiring new States eventually, meaning the question of the legality of slavery in new States was inevitable.
I’m not sure what we can learn from this, for our time. The political stagnation and atavism we see now is probably a harbinger of something… and someone a 100 years from now will be able to look back and see how obvious everything was… but I can’t see it.
re: #327 freetoken
And anyone who thinks the Civil War was primarily about “States’ Rights” blithely neglects the Fugitive Slave Act, which forced non-slave states to return escaped slaves on their territory to their “rightful” owners.
re: #321 freetoken
The phrase “WWII” will remain in the American lexicon for quite some time, but the meaning, the cause and effects, the people involved, will slip away quickly from memory.
We already see that with the US Civil War. Sure, the phrase “Civil War” is commonly known, but how much does the average 25 year old American really know about it? Since in television and large screen productions there are still plenty of references, there may be some identification of key players (Lincoln, Grant), but if we can learn anything from the onslaught of revisionist history about that event - claims that it was not really about slavery - it is that the facts of the war are not widely known.
I’m watching the “Underground” series. I can’t believe how many STUPID trivial historical errors they made but the basic premise is valid. There were NO “happy slaves” and NO “kind masters.”
“12 Years A Slave” is much better in terms of historical accuracy since it’s based on the experience of an actual person.
re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There was full-scale warfare going on in Kansas as early as 1856.
Which Andrew Jackson was really, really pissed off about.
Also watching “Handmaid’s Tale” and it’s chilling how many similarities there are with “Underground.”
Throughout human history, authoritarian regimes have been the norm. The aberration that is the freedom we have enjoyed for 241 years is coming to an end.
Since we’re doing history, 546 years ago today:
But no one remembers the War of the Roses anymore…
re: #329 The Vicious Babushka
“12 Years A Slave” is much better in terms of historical accuracy since it’s based on the experience of an actual person.
And its premise was based on the Fugitive Slave Act, which we see, meant that even free blacks were not safe in the North.
re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To
NFW
Morning Joe Co-Hosts Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski Are Engaged
Case of on-air Stockholm syndrome?
re: #331 The Vicious Babushka
Also watching “Handmaid’s Tale” and it’s chilling how many similarities there are with “Underground.”
Throughout human history, authoritarian regimes have been the norm. The aberration that is the freedom we have enjoyed for 241 years is coming to an end.
Maybe the aberration is that so many of us thought that we were free. But there are plenty of groups in this country that haven’t enjoyed the freedom whites, and even more so white men, have enjoyed. We’re all getting to see what minorities are getting to see. And the reason for that is that one of two things are going to happen: either we work to get those freedoms for everyone, or those who enjoy the privilege of being in charge win and continue to oppress the rest of us.
re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And its premise was based on the Fugitive Slave Act, which we see, meant that even free blacks were not safe in the North.
“12 Years A Slave” happened before the FSL but it showed how free Blacks could still become enslaved.
“Underground” shows that because of the FSL the Detroit River became “Jordan” instead of the Ohio River.
re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To
@CillizzaCNN Who fucking cares. They spent months enabling a Trump campaign that is now this close to screwing Americans out of their health care.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 4, 2017
re: #332 freetoken
Since we’re doing history, 546 years ago today:
But no one remembers the War of the Roses anymore…
Of course we do
re: #104 Stanley Sea
Stephanie Boland ✔ @stephanieboland
“I’d like you to paint me a cat.”
“A what?”
“A cat. You do know what a cat is, right? You’ve seen a cat?”
“Uh, yeah. Of course.”
5:49 AM - 3 May 2017
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As an artist I am going to defend the cat painting. I think it is cool because it captures the sometime bizarre contortions of a scared cat. Think of a cat making a quick reflex action and capturing it in a photo, but the cat was so quick it blurred.
I guess some people can’t see it, they need an almost photo-realistic image so they can say “cat.”
It is called impressionism for a reason and that painting is an impression.
Plus, I love art of all kinds…and I was a straight 4.0 in art history in art college.
re: #301 Timothy Watson
Are they going to invite Trump to their wedding? Maybe hold it at Mar-a-Lago?
Just saw they are engaged.
More Republican/Conservative Family Values from Joke.
How many marriages is that now…three?
re: #342 The Vicious Babushka
AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.
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Curious what this person thinks of Putin-loving Trump. Not curious enough to ask, though.
BLAST FROM THE PAST
It’s Thursday. How many people have lost their healthcare today?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 9, 2014
re: #344 The Vicious Babushka
There’s a relevant Trump tweet for every situation he now finds himself in.
re: #344 The Vicious Babushka
BLAST FROM THE PAST
It’s Thursday. How many people have lost their healthcare today?
By declaring himself the anti-politician, DT has somehow magically rendered himself immune from the consequences of calling him out on his obvious lies, contradictions and unfounded claims.
I wonder how long this is going to hold up.
re: #314 lawhawk
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Oh, and the GOP plan defunds Planned Parenthood too.
Every fucking thing the GOP does regarding health care is going to make the health and wellbeing of Americans far worse.
Not a single provision improves care, coverage, or costs. It burdens everyone with higher premiums, and will increase medically induced bankruptcies, but at least the rich folks get their tax cuts.
Well, that ought to leave a mark on all the people that support Republicans.
Even if this crap is killed in the Senate, I hope the GOP base understands what there party tried to do to them. But I have no faith it will make any difference. Well, not until they realize there Non-Obama insurance is going to cost more and cover less.
Ugh. What a feakin’ mess.
re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
By declaring himself the anti-politician, DT has somehow magically rendered himself immune from the consequences of calling him out on his obvious lies, contradictions and unfounded claims.
I wonder how long this is going to hold up.
While at the same time collecting every statement from a Democrat made decades ago on some issue they have since changed their minds about, to prove they “lied then” or “are lying now”
re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
By declaring himself the anti-politician, DT has somehow magically rendered himself immune from the consequences of calling him out on his obvious lies, contradictions and unfounded claims.
I wonder how long this is going to hold up.
Yep, every single time he lies about something like that the media paints it as some cute little antidote.
OT
For that late morning entertainment
For those with no familiarity of the HMMWV, there is a security cable installed, use to wrap around the steering wheel and secured with a padlock.
To actually start the vehicle there is a toggle switch on the dashboard, left of the steering wheel. Flip the toggle over to “Run” which charges the glowplugs, then depress the toggle to “Start” and release.
If the Dems weren’t a joke party they could blow out 40 seats on this issue.
But they’ll campaign on abortion, gun control, and bathrooms.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 4, 2017
re: #351 sagehen
…all of which are also health care issues, but whatevs, Rick
My Congressrep y’all
Do you have one of these conditions? #TrumpCare would increase premiums & deductibles and result in long waiting periods for coverage. pic.twitter.com/idpkMbgtuc
— Brenda Lawrence (@RepLawrence) May 4, 2017
re: #321 freetoken
The phrase “WWII” will remain in the American lexicon for quite some time, but the meaning, the cause and effects, the people involved, will slip away quickly from memory.
We already see that with the US Civil War. Sure, the phrase “Civil War” is commonly known, but how much does the average 25 year old American really know about it? Since in television and large screen productions there are still plenty of references, there may be some identification of key players (Lincoln, Grant), but if we can learn anything from the onslaught of revisionist history about that event - claims that it was not really about slavery - it is that the facts of the war are not widely known.
Heh. Obviously it is just not average 25 year old folks that don’t really know much about the U.S. Civil War.
If you catch my drift.
re: #348 The Vicious Babushka
While at the same time collecting every statement from a Democrat made decades ago on some issue they have since changed their minds about, to prove they “lied then” or “are lying now”
Or Obama collecting a speaker’s fee…it is amazing how he has totally exempted himself from every rule and convention of campaigning, media interaction and politics.
But the consequences are clear: either he goes down, or the entire nation does. This cannot last.
Martha McSally stood up in GOP conference meeting and said let’s get this “fucking thing” done.
Yes, direct quote — per members and aides.— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) May 4, 2017
Republicans are breaking a compact that lead doctors and patients to make irreversible, mortal decisions. https://t.co/1RZspA66lh pic.twitter.com/QniTTVDhjr
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) May 4, 2017
re: #357 wheat-dogg
The Defenders trailer
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We need them, Purple Man is now in the Oval Office.
re: #351 sagehen
Rick’s giving the Republican electorate too much credit. Even if Democrats never mentioned those issues, Republicans will run on Democrats wanting to kill all the fetuses, take away everyone’s guns, allow rapists in the bathrooms, raise taxes and blow up the economy.
re: #336 Belafon
Maybe the aberration is that so many of us thought that we were free. But there are plenty of groups in this country that haven’t enjoyed the freedom whites, and even more so white men, have enjoyed. We’re all getting to see what minorities are getting to see. And the reason for that is that one of two things are going to happen: either we work to get those freedoms for everyone, or those who enjoy the privilege of being in charge win and continue to oppress the rest of us.
And you can even break down Whites further from men and women into groups that are not “free” like LBGT people.
re: #360 Belafon
Rick’s giving the Republican electorate too much credit. Even if Democrats never mentioned those issues, Republicans will run on Democrats wanting to kill all the fetuses, take away everyone’s guns, allow rapists in the bathrooms, raise taxes and blow up the economy.
and let in hordes of illegals and terrorists, all of whom will have anchor babies
re: #298 Dave In Austin
Morning all…….
Excuse me, I need to go brush my teeth…. Blah!
So the rumors were true….
Who runs for congress so they can help insurance companies screw over people with pre-existing conditions? Apparently Republicans
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) May 3, 2017
re: #356 FormerDirtDart
This about the GOP healthcare bill that isn’t healthcare bill?
re: #351 sagehen
Someone needs to remind Rick that trans people deserve the same freedoms as the rest of us, and that it was Republicans that decided to scare voters with a new scare group, not Democrats.
re: #324 freetoken
The only reason I know what little I know about the Civil War is that I’ve tried to research some ancestors involved in it. That made me read things that I otherwise would not have read.
Substantially, the Civil War was a long time coming. It was quite clear even a decade before it actually started that things were coming apart. The whole Compromise of 1850 was quite the topic of conversation, if newspaper accounts are to believed.
The slavery-sympathetic revisionists are thus presented with a problem: how to explain the importance of the Compromise in American politics of the time.
That’s an interesting thought, whether my ancestors were involved in the Civil War. My mom’s family came over from England in or about 1880ish so I probably don’t have a connection on that side. I’ve been less successful tracking my dad’s side. My step-father’s family has roots in Missouri so there might be some interesting links there.
re: #356 FormerDirtDart
Such potty-mouths, these family-values, healthcare repealers GOPers.
I can already see it coming: Trumpcare will pass, be an absolute fucking disaster and everyone in the GOP will blame Obama/Clinton for it.
re: #360 Belafon
Rick’s giving the Republican electorate too much credit. Even if Democrats never mentioned those issues, Republicans will run on Democrats wanting to kill all the fetuses, take away everyone’s guns, allow rapists in the bathrooms, raise taxes and blow up the economy.
Sure would. And we must remember Ricky is a Republican strategist that produced TV ads and the like. So chances are good he would be one of the people that would help the Repubs run just like that.
I think some Democrats/Liberals took a liking to him because he obviously hates Trump. Outside that he is a snake with a knife and he’ll stab and strike any Democrat at the first chance.
New post:CBO has informed Dems that the score of GOP bill is coming as early as next week, Dem aide tells me:https://t.co/7ieSbwdccT
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) May 4, 2017
So why rush? Oh, you mean, that *is* the reason for the rush? Of course, it is. #ShootAimReady https://t.co/7v7vgeiarF
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) May 4, 2017
re: #370 Sir John Barron
Such potty-mouths, these family-values, healthcare repealers GOPers.
Well, she is a former fighter pilot.
#BREAKING: ObamaCare repeal bill contains exemption for members of Congress and their staffs https://t.co/TZexuzvK5A pic.twitter.com/ayCpEQ8dII
— The Hill (@thehill) May 4, 2017
These dirty sons of bitches.
Go on, tell me again about your fucking protest vote and how there’s no difference between candidates. https://t.co/FxNB6vs1C0— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 4, 2017
If Americans do not punish the GOP for this vote in 2018, I will have completely and forever lost faith in this country.
@DavidCornDC Very simple answer: Trump is desperate for a “win”.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) May 4, 2017
re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg
I can already see it coming: Trumpcare will pass, be an absolute fucking disaster and everyone in the GOP will blame Obama/Clinton for it.
It worked with the banking collapse in 2008
GOP: This is a great bill.
Voters: Ok. When will your plans switch over?
GOP: Oh. Well. We exempted ourselves. But it’s a great bill!— Zac Petkanas (@Zac_Petkanas) May 4, 2017
re: #376 Dr. Matt
If Americans do not punish the GOP for this vote in 2018, I will have completely and forever lost faith in this country.
And I will then be moving to Canada after my child is born because I’d like them to live somewhere that I can’t go bankrupt if my kid gets a cough.
Insomnia was bad last night and these Grumpy Old Pricks are not helping as it is their actions that are keeping me awake.
Prince Philip to retire from public engagements, Buckingham Palace announces https://t.co/q6Hl4gckhA pic.twitter.com/ROz3ob9WVT
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) May 4, 2017
@RepDanKildee @louvice The 13 that support include Alex Jones and 12 calls from John Barron.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) May 4, 2017
And, yet another incident…
VIDEO: California family kicked off @Delta flight because toddler wasn’t allowed his own seat https://t.co/tOGyEKtLps pic.twitter.com/Uf156LKOmj
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) May 4, 2017
“…An official tells Schear that it’s against FAA regulations for a child that young to sit either in a car seat or a regular seat on the plane.
But Delta’s website recommends the exact opposite: “For kids under the age of two, we recommend you purchase a seat on the aircraft and use an approved child safety seat,” the website reads….”
@ThePlumLineGS His answer — Rep. Brat: “The rush is reconciliation ends in about a month and we have to move onto tax to get the economy moving.”
— David Wright (@DavidWright_CNN) May 4, 2017
Again: this is all about tax cuts. Not healthcare. They keep coming right out and saying it. https://t.co/frfmXPq1Ak
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) May 4, 2017
re: #383 FormerDirtDart
I’m not sure where they got the FAA information from, but the FAA site says….
Did you know that the safest place for your child on an airplane is in a government-approved child safety restraint system (CRS) or device, not on your lap? Your arms aren’t capable of holding your child securely, especially during unexpected turbulence.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) strongly urges you to secure your child in a CRS or device for the duration of your flight. It’s the smart and right thing to do so that everyone in your family arrives safely at your destination. The FAA is giving you the information you need to make informed decisions about your family’s travel plans.
The FAA’s FAQ indicates:
The FAA does not require the use of CRS’s on commercial airplanes because a mandate would require parents to purchase an extra airline ticket for their child, forcing some families who can’t afford the extra ticket to drive, a statistically more dangerous way to travel. However, the FAA strongly recommends the use of CRS’s or an alternative FAA-approved device based on a child’s weight. A child safety device is an FAA-approved alternative to using a hard-backed seat and is approved only for use on aircraft. It is not approved for use in motor vehicles. For example, the FAA has approved a new harness-type device appropriate for children weighing between 22 and 44 pounds. Airlines currently allow children under the age of two to fly free of charge as “lap children,” not the safest way for a child to travel. Many airlines offer half-price tickets so parents can be guaranteed that their child can travel in a CRS or device. Parents should call their airline to ask for a discount and/or ask what the airline’s policy is for using empty seats.
Whoever was quoting the FAA information got it wrong.
The FAA position is that you should use a CRS and purchase a separate seat, but that it is not required because the FAA doesn’t want to impose the cost on the traveler.
re: #274 freetoken
What the nightly news was like 48 years ago:
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I really didn’t like Chet Huntley in particular. It didn’t show so much on air but in interviews with TV Guide and the like he came across as an obnoxious, even bigoted, cultural snob. He held the south and midwest in contempt, as though the printing press or, indeed, his own TV show, did not penetrate into the hinterland. He did not seem to even acknowledge the existence of California or the west coast. This regional bigotry was all the stranger because Huntley was actually from Montana and always maintained a home there. His worst offense, though, was to disparage the early astronauts as non-entities, decrying the attention paid to them as though it pained him personally “Astronauts? Nice guys. Mechanics.”
re: #386 lawhawk
I’m not sure where they got the FAA information from, but the FAA site says….
The FAA’s FAQ indicates:
Whoever was quoting the FAA information got it wrong.
The FAA position is that you should use a CRS and purchase a separate seat, but that it is not required because the FAA doesn’t want to impose the cost on the traveler.
In the article, the family states they flew to Hawaii in the same manner they were attempting to fly home, on Delta.
Un-fucking-belivable:
Analysis: Trump was right about the romance between Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. But also wrong.
Yeah folks, that’s what count as “analysis” at the newspaper of record.
re: #382 Dr. Matt
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Called my RWNJ rep - staff finally said he’s a yes (they wouldn’t say yesterday)
Said they’ve received tons of calls - I’m sure all against.
March at his office today at 4.
re: #378 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It worked with the banking collapse in 2008
Right, that’s why we elected McCain and a Republican majority in 2008.
re: #391 Puss Power
Right, that’s why we elected McCain and a Republican majority in 2008.
it worked fine in 2010…and up until 2010 they continued blaming Obama for anything wrong with the economy and for things that happened before he took office.
re: #392 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
… poll of the Rs even stated that they believed Obama was President during Katrina… some even said 9/11. I am starting to have no hope in the American people.
I just sent a fax to my representative, Blake Farenthold, in both his local offices and his DC office. I included the House pledge of 2010:
“We will ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square by publishing the text online for at least three days before coming up for a vote in the House of Representatives. No more hiding legislative language from the minority party, opponents, and the public. Legislation should be understood by all interested parties before it is voted on.”
I also reminded him that our district was recently nullified due to gerrymandering, and that he will hopefully be defending his seat in a special election. I vowed to work tirelessly to end his career in politics if he votes YES on this bill (he will) by donating my time and money to his opponent.
re: #392 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
it worked fine in 2010…and up until 2010 they continued blaming Obama for anything wrong with the economy and for things that happened before he took office.
But you said 2008.
I’m a little amazed Republicans aren’t sitting there thinking about the political ads that’ll come out against them. Dead babies, old people thrown out of their homes, a hundred highly charismatic people talking about how Republican X fucked their lives over for the sake of their yacht club. I’m also amazed they aren’t imagining what their next town hall or campaign rally will look like. Of course, they also plan to ban voting unless you’re rich, white, and male…
Eventually, someone’s gonna put a bullet through some Republican’s brainpan, and there’s a decent chance the shooter could go free on a “SOB had it coming” defense.
FAUX News taking a beating…
I wonder where their viewers are going? If I was to guess, I’d assume they’re warming up their old trusty “crystal sets” and tuning into Rush Limbaugh rebroadcasts…
O’Reilly left Fox w/ 4M viewers. Tucker Carlson has now slipped down to 2.4M. so yeah, they’re in trouble; https://t.co/f1gG8brXPk
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) May 4, 2017
last week i predicted Tucker would be down around 2.4M viewers by the summer.
at this rate he’ll be around 1.5M by summer.— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) May 4, 2017
btw, Tucker’s soft numbers mean trouble for all the shows that follow; Hannity had 2M viewers Tues night; awful for him
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) May 4, 2017
re: #396 scottslemmons
Eventually, some protestors will be shot dead at an anti-Trump rally, and there’s a decent chance the shooter could go free on a “Libtard had it coming” defense.
re: #395 Belafon
But you said 2008.
They were blaming Obama for everything wrong with America before he even took office.
re: #398 The Vicious Babushka
Eventually, some protestors will be shot dead at an anti-Trump rally, and there’s a decent chance the shooter could go free on a “Libtard had it coming” defense.
Like the Russian (especially Chechen defense) when gays get beat up or killed…
Why is Trump announcing a trip to Saudi Arabia at an event for religious liberty and tolerance?
— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) May 4, 2017
re: #396 scottslemmons
I’m a little amazed Republicans aren’t sitting there thinking about the political ads that’ll come out against them. Dead babies, old people thrown out of their homes, a hundred highly charismatic people talking about how Republican X fucked their lives over for the sake of their yacht club. I’m also amazed they aren’t imagining what their next town hall or campaign rally will look like. Of course, they also plan to ban voting unless you’re rich, white, and male…
Eventually, someone’s gonna put a bullet through some Republican’s brainpan, and there’s a decent chance the shooter could go free on a “SOB had it coming” defense.
Do you really have enough faith left in the electorate to believe they’ll keep the blame solely where it lies?
I don’t. Not anymore. We’ve seen far too many times how the GOP can act with naked malfeasance and animosity and still get most of the country to side with them, because spite wins. It always fucking wins. And most of this country hates Dems, PoC, women, and/or non-Christians enough to go with them every fucking time, it seems.
If they pay a political price for this at all, I’ll be pleasantly surprised. But I’m not holding my breath.
re: #398 The Vicious Babushka
With Sessions as AG anything is possible.
re: #403 Eclectic Cyborg
With Sessions as AG anything is possible.
In Sessions southern elf voice:
“They was just protecting their rights as good christian white men to keep control of the womens and the blacks and the browns slaves. Who we need to prosecute is dem peoples getting their blood on these nice god fearin’ men’s clothes brown shirts.”
I’m a wee bit nihilistic today.
Chet Huntley’s legacy includes suppression of a free press
This is mostly about the cozy relationship between local media and the Big Sky resort in Montana, which Huntley co-founded.
It all reminds me of the local media in Lubbock, who apparently see themselves as an arm of the chamber of commerce and as boosters for the local developers. The bare facts of shootings, stabbings, and auto accidents get reported but there is never anything approaching an in depth examination of some less-than-positive story unless local politicians make a lot of noise about it. Even then, everything is skewed toward the developers. If there is a consensus in the power structure, especially the developers, to ignore a story, it doesn’t exist. The 30 year shutdown of a major intersection, for 29 consecutive “repair” projects, is well documented by local activists but has never been mentioned in the commercial media. Similarly, there was never one story about the weekly rioting outside the only local abortion provider, let alone the atrocious conduct of the “pro-life” mob.
re: #401 FormerDirtDart
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Religious liberty and conscience clause? Let’s do a little thought experiment.
There’s a Catholic doctor and/or nurse working at Mt Sinai hospital.
There’s a Jewish doctor and/or nurse working at St Vincent’s hospital.
Into each emergency room comes a Savita Halappanavar, with serious pregnancy related health problems. Terminating her pregnancy will save her life.
The Catholic doctor says “fuck your hospital policy, I follow my own religious conscience. I refuse to perform an abortion.”
The Jewish doctor says “fuck your hospital policy, I follow my own religious conscience. I insist on performing an abortion.”
Which doctor is fired, and which one is the hospital forbidden to fire?
Claudette Colvin is a name you should know.
Nine months before Rosa Parks was famously arrested for refusing to give up her seat on a segregated bus, Claudette Colvin was arrested for the same protest.
Haven’t heard of her before?! I bet I know why. Claudette was a teen mom. She is also sheroe, a pioneer, a civil rights warrior and a very powerful babe.
re: #404 CongoJack
In Sessions southern elf voice:
“They was just protecting their rights as good christian white men to keep control of the womens and theblacks and the brownsslaves. Who we need to prosecute is dem peoples getting their blood on these nice god fearin’ men’sclothesbrown shirts.”I’m a wee bit nihilistic today.
I’m a lot more than “wee bit” today.
I’m not being flippant and sarcastic in my usually joking manner. I’m at the “fuck this shit” phase.
re: #310 Timothy Watson
And video games, god, the number of WW2 video games out there.
Far too many of which sanitize and/or glorify it.
Like surgery it was necessary, but there was nothing wonderful about it.
Finally, you can watch David Bowie and Iggy Pop’s daytime TV appearance on ‘Dinah!’ in full https://t.co/yLXoUVSO1K
— ggt (@geegeetee) May 4, 2017
#TheResistance pic.twitter.com/4vwgKVHnl6
— The Anti-Trump (@IMPL0RABLE) May 4, 2017
re: #408 Timothy Watson
Seconded.
I assume we aren’t the only two either. This administration is going to put more than a few people in an early grave just from the stress (not including their horrible legislation and actions).
re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Because the Free Market is an ideology, not just a macroeconomic mechanism.
More than that it’s a faith, and the wealthy are its saints.
However it’s a faith that resembles pre-Reformation Catholicism where words of faith cover the most corrupt practices of the clergy.
Trump on National Day of Prayer: “We will not allow people of faith to be targeted, bullied or silenced anymore” https://t.co/rBeWTZCCWC
— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 4, 2017
Except the Muslims. And, after them, whoever is next. Burn in Hell, @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/LwoIEvU5mw
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) May 4, 2017
re: #415 The Vicious Babushka
Or those people of faith that support gays, abortion, or minorities.
re: #414 CongoJack
Love this series.
I caught it again for the first time in some years. It’s interesting watching now being older than the guys were when they served in EC. Great series. Too bad it wasn’t made later because it would have made an excellent series in this age of television and they would have been able to had it more detailed but it’s my favorite miniseries ever.
re: #376 Dr. Matt
If Americans do not punish the GOP for this vote in 2018, I will have completely and forever lost faith in this country.
I’m right there with you. If the dems can’t claim key victories out of this cruelty, I also believe it will be finished as a national party. It certainly is finished in Wisconsin. 7 years after Scott Walker was elected and still complete state control for the GOP. Governor, Assembly, Senate, Supreme court. Tammy Baldwin looks like a goner as well. Not to mention the EC for Trump. I see no relevant push back here.
re: #405 Shiplord Kirel
Chet Huntley’s legacy includes suppression of a free press
This is mostly about the cozy relationship between local media and the Big Sky resort in Montana, which Huntley co-founded.
It all reminds me of the local media in Lubbock, who apparently see themselves as an arm of the chamber of commerce and as boosters for the local developers. The bare facts of shootings, stabbings, and auto accidents get reported but there is never anything approaching an in depth examination of some less-than-positive story unless local politicians make a lot of noise about it. Even then, everything is skewed toward the developers. If there is a consensus in the power structure, especially the developers, to ignore a story, it doesn’t exist. The 30 year shutdown of a major intersection, for 29 consecutive “repair” projects, is well documented by local activists but has never been mentioned in the commercial media. Similarly, there was never one story about the weekly rioting outside the only local abortion provider, let alone the atrocious conduct of the “pro-life” mob.
Hey, former Lubbockite here, trying desperately to find work again in that area. What intersection are you talking about?
re: #331 The Vicious Babushka
Humans are generally uncomfortable with freedom. It requires too much thought and responsibility for most people.
re: #353 The Vicious Babushka
My Congressrep y’all
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Woman, being a woman is a pre-existing condition to the GOP.
OK but this conspiracy theory is gold pic.twitter.com/5huXaLf7vs
— Áine (@himynameisaine) May 4, 2017
if anyone has seen a mortar made out of IKEA parts, please please please let me know https://t.co/8UfYEwnTLT
— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) May 4, 2017
re: #417 HappyWarrior
I caught it again for the first time in some years. It’s interesting watching now being older than the guys were when they served in EC. Great series. Too bad it wasn’t made later because it would have made an excellent series in this age of television and they would have been able to had it more detailed but it’s my favorite miniseries ever.
Have you seen The Pacific? Noticeably a lot less idealistic take.
Trump deletes tweet saying it was ‘an honor’ to meet with Abbas https://t.co/GOIMIJtQi6
re: #423 Timothy Watson
Have you seen The Pacific? Noticeably a lot less idealistic take.
I started watching it when it was on but then fell behind. Not surprised. The Pacific Theater was a lot more gritty and brutal. And you did see the racism that existed in American society during that time more.
#JohnsonAmendment is trending.
Trump’s new executive order could turn churches into Super PACs, says @professortax https://t.co/8aqAfxeGjh #JohnsonAmendment
— Emily Schwartz Greco (@ESGreco) May 4, 2017
re: #422 FormerDirtDart
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lol.
If this were the case, yeah, they could make weapons, but they would only work once. Never had any luck with anything from Ikea lasting more than a year.
re: #344 The Vicious Babushka
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Un fucking believable. There really is an alternate Trump out there, stuck in the past, trying to warn us.
re: #340 ObserverArt
As an artist I am going to defend the cat painting. I think it is cool because it captures the sometime bizarre contortions of a scared cat. Think of a cat making a quick reflex action and capturing it in a photo, but the cat was so quick it blurred.
I guess some people can’t see it, they need an almost photo-realistic image so they can say “cat.”
It is called impressionism for a reason and that painting is an impression.
Plus, I love art of all kinds…and I was a straight 4.0 in art history in art college.
I didn’t like it as much for the slam of the painting…it was what they wrote that cracked me up.
I, too, liked the painting.
But that tweet was pretty funny.
re: #353 The Vicious Babushka
My Congressrep y’all
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These people are monsters. Good for your Congresswoman for putting this info out there.
.@RabbiSaperstein: The #JohnsonAmendment protects houses of worship from the influence of political #darkmoney https://t.co/8R4uJFHHMX pic.twitter.com/VvnoAbXFJa
— PFAW (@peoplefor) May 4, 2017
Think the Vatican knows anything about Dark Money?
re: #357 wheat-dogg
With Sigourney Weaver as the antagonist this has potential.
re: #419 scottslemmons
Hey, former Lubbockite here, trying desperately to find work again in that area. What intersection are you talking about?
The 3 way at North Quaker, Erskine, and Loop 289.
re: #360 Belafon
Rick’s giving the Republican electorate too much credit. Even if Democrats never mentioned those issues, Republicans will run on Democrats wanting to kill all the fetuses, take away everyone’s guns, allow rapists in the bathrooms, raise taxes and blow up the economy.
Exactly and I’d like to remind Rick that it’s his party that has made those issues. Rick may hate Trump but he’s still clueless about what his party really is.
re: #433 HappyWarrior
Yeah, let’s fuck people over! Yay Team GOP!
How will the poor billionaires pay for the maintenance on their car elevators without a tax cut?
Chaffetz Scoots In For Health Care Vote After Surgery - photo by @billclarkphotos pic.twitter.com/JYbfNI21Yh
— Gillian Roberts (@gkroberts) May 4, 2017
He got treatmnt for his pre-existing conidition, now he’s voting to take yours away #TheResistance #AHCA #PreexistingCondition https://t.co/R5WkrgRBwm
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) May 4, 2017
re: #418 Amory Blaine
I’m right there with you. If the dems can’t claim key victories out of this cruelty, I also believe it will be finished as a national party. It certainly is finished in Wisconsin. 7 years after Scott Walker was elected and still complete state control for the GOP. Governor, Assembly, Senate, Supreme court. Tammy Baldwin looks like a goner as well. Not to mention the EC for Trump. I see no relevant push back here.
I’ve felt for a long time a voice in the wilderness making this exact argument here.
If the Democrats don’t contest every seat in every location, even the ones they expect to lose, they are no longer a national party.
I don’t see any liberals moving to the middle of the country. Even in solidly Red states like Mississippi, they had a Democratic state house until 2010. “Whoops, we were turned out of office, cede Mississippi to the Republicans for all time. Whoops, we lost our Democratic House seat in Nebraska in 2014, cede Nebraska for all time.”
That is not a strategy for winning, it is a strategy to wind up the party’s affairs.
re: #439 The Vicious Babushka
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Yep. So courageousness. /// Chaffetz makes me sick.
re: #389 Timothy Watson
Un-fucking-belivable:
Analysis: Trump was right about the romance between Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. But also wrong.Yeah folks, that’s what count as “analysis” at the newspaper of record.
The Balance Fairy never sleeps.
re: #441 HappyWarrior
Yep. So courageousness. /// Chaffetz makes me sick.
That’s a snappy campaign slogan!
GOP: “Making you sick while they take away your healthcare”
re: #439 The Vicious Babushka
We paid for his fucking scooter as well.
Comprehensive Sex Ed and Free Birth Control are my choice for population control. Obviously, the GOP has another plan.
re: #445 Birth Control Works
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yeah, it’s on a t-shirt
HURR HURR HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE KLAN!!1!
re: #446 Birth Control Works
Comprehensive Sex Ed and Free Birth Control are my choice for population control. Obviously, the GOP has another plan.
Yeah their plan is to make the actually living suffer.
re: #447 Timothy Watson
HURR HURR HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE KLAN!!1!
You jest but those who knew who Black was, that would be theri first line to bash that even though the KKK iteslf was fond of claiming hte US was a “Christian nation.”
#waronwomen is no longer trending on Twitter.
This has to change.
Republicans Quietly Eliminate Health Care For Disabled Children
Coming soon to you….
I cannot say any more except today is National Prayer Day. Let that sink in.
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#Vanlife isn’t just an aesthetic. #Vanlife isn’t just a mentality. #Vanlife is—as people keep insisting—a “movement” https://t.co/ePkhbnqoEe pic.twitter.com/p60OmaPAiK
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) April 19, 2017
#Vanlife is living in your car. Also known as homelessness, when you aren’t white and sexy. https://t.co/U9bB2c3vQF
— Melanie Dione (@beauty_jackson) April 19, 2017
re: #451 nines09
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In Spencer is a man who never had a real job, who failed to complete his education, who lives on his parent’s bank account.
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) May 4, 2017
re: #414 CongoJack
Same. Didn’t pull punches.
And as a long time grognard I didn’t once go “Bzzzzzt! Wrong!”
re: #385 FormerDirtDart
@ThePlumLineGS His answer — Rep. Brat: “The rush is reconciliation ends in about a month and we have to move onto tax to get the economy moving.”
Give them their tax cut. Fuck them all. When Democrats take back the government (hopefully), raise taxes on everyone making $1,000,000 or more to 50%.
Greedy motherfuckers.
Looks like Buckingham Palace has presented the world with a nothing burger. A 95 year old man has decided to stop working so much. Whodathunkit? The uproar is understandable though, especially after they called the meeting in the middle of the night: When the stars are in their 90s, the show could end any time.
re: #459 Shiplord Kirel
Looks like Buckingham Palace has presented the world with a nothing burger. A 95 year old man has decided to stop working so much. Whodathunkit? The uproar is understandable though, especially after they called the meeting in the middle of the night: When the stars are in their 90s, the show could end any time.
The Queen and her Prince are probably the last good example we will have of “a life of service”. I think they live their values. Which is something I respect.
Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un to organize spectacular music festival for young luxury lovers, on private island once owned by Joseph Stalin. pic.twitter.com/z9nkiPUjR0
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) May 4, 2017
re: #451 nines09
Republicans Quietly Eliminate Health Care For Disabled Children
Coming soon to you….
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Thank you for linking to that old post; I did not see it when it went up.
And that’s what the conservative politicians want for everyone (except themselves) again.
Medical bankruptcy does benefit one group of people: the very wealthy and banks that get all your property. It would appear the objective is to make sure that not only you die, but you die penniless and leave your children penniless, too.
re: #459 Shiplord Kirel
Looks like Buckingham Palace has presented the world with a nothing burger. A 95 year old man has decided to stop working so much. Whodathunkit? The uproar is understandable though, especially after they called the meeting in the middle of the night: When the stars are in their 90s, the show could end any time.
Stopping in SEPTEMBER! weird.
re: #398 The Vicious Babushka
Eventually, some protestors will be shot dead at an anti-Trump rally, and there’s a decent chance the shooter could go free on a “Libtard had it coming” defense.
And then Donny Trump gets to see if he can stop a civil war.
Damn, I hated typing that.
JUST IN: The ACLU says it will sue over Trump’s religious exemption executive order. pic.twitter.com/uFYGCqgcjN
— Dominic Holden (@dominicholden) May 4, 2017
re: #444 Skip Intro
We paid for his fucking scooter as well.
And that would make a great ad “As Chaffetz wheeled himself in to vote against your health care, and to keep his own, you paid for his surgery and wheel chair.”
re: #467 Belafon
And that would make a great ad “As Chaffetz wheeled himself in to vote against your health care, and to keep his own, you paid for his surgery and wheel chair.”
Since he’s not running for his seat again (and with that foot, maybe not running at all) I’m not sure how such an ad would be used.
Speaking of which, I would expect his resignation to come very shortly after this vote is taken.
re: #468 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Since he’s not running for his seat again (and with that foot, maybe not running at all) I’m not sure how such an ad would be used.
Speaking of which, I would expect his resignation to come very shortly after this vote is taken.
That’s true. Use it against all of the other Republicans then. He can be a stand-in for them.
re: #448 HappyWarrior
Yeah their plan is to make the actually living suffer.
But suffering gets you into Heaven so suffering is a good thing!
“Yeah?” I ask. “How would you know? Your idea of suffering is paying taxes.”
Charles Pierce news.
So anyway, this happened. Last Tuesday, I awoke in the middle of the night feeling as though I’d swallowed an ankylosaurus, spiked tail and all. (It was a good day for dinosaur news, because it’s always a good day for dinosaur news, but it wasn’t a good day for metaphorical dinosaur news.) That brought me to the emergency room. The next afternoon, I felt as though someone was pounding a railroad spike into my right side. After a series of tests that covered 14 hours and included an endoscopy, an ultrasound, an MRI, and a more elaborate MRI, it was determined that the ol’ gallbladder had run the race, that it had to come out, but that it had not made the argument for its removal in a conventional way. I had, as they said, “an atypical presentation of a common condition.”
re: #468 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Since he’s not running for his seat again (and with that foot, maybe not running at all) I’m not sure how such an ad would be used.
Speaking of which, I would expect his resignation to come very shortly after this vote is taken.
And then he starts a nice, cushy job at Aetna or Humna or Anthem…
re: #468 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Since he’s not running for his seat again (and with that foot, maybe not running at all) I’m not sure how such an ad would be used.
Speaking of which, I would expect his resignation to come very shortly after this vote is taken.
Not until his foot is healed. If he resigns beforehand, he would lose his healthcare insurance.
Fuck it, I’m running for President.
Vote for me in 2020. I have an Enemies List that numbers in the millions, and I’ll do everything in my power to make sure all of them end their existences on the pointy end of a crowbar lobotomy.
I mean, it’s clear the American people want to be governed by maniacs, I’ll do my best to give it to ‘em. With machetes.
Disgusting fat slob/congresscritter @Rep_Tom_Garrett admits he hasn’t even read the fucking bill. #KillTheBill https://t.co/ADh7Xy1Glp pic.twitter.com/QT9nvcbLeY
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) May 4, 2017
So today does not look to be a good day.
I think I’m going to spend most of it in the kitchen, making up food to go in the freezer.
“They have religious theocracies. If we are going to have any chance of beating them, we have to have one too!”
This is mindset.
Day 4 (out of 10) for me training noobs. Calgon take me away!!!
re: #424 Stanley Sea
@haaretzcom A violation of Presidential Records Act?
44 U.S.C. 22 § 2201-2209 et seq. https://t.co/k4AmU8zMpk— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 4, 2017
re: #475 Dr. Matt
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re: #475 Dr. Matt
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7 years ago, if you were a Democrat who was caught saying you hadn’t read the bill, you were treated as if you’d just signed nation’s death warrant. 7 years ago, the idea of voting on such a major bill without the CBO’s grading it was shocking. And 7 years ago, Democrats got massacred for taking a vote on the grounds that “something needs to be done.”
Welcome to the Idiocracy.
re: #484 Big Beautiful Door
The price of oil is collapsing today. At least we will have cheap gas to burn on the Highway to Hell.
Nope. When oil rises, microseconds later gasoline rises at the pump. When it falls, “we have to wait for what’s in the pipeline to be sold before we lower prices.”
“Plants Behaving Badly” premieres May 3, 2017.
Two groups of plants exhibit such intriguing behavior that a century and a half ago they attracted the attention of Charles Darwin. These same plants, the orchids and the carnivorous plants, still fascinate scientists today. In two one-hour films, “Plants Behaving Badly” reveals a world of deceit and treachery worthy of any fictional thriller.
re: #484 Big Beautiful Door
The price of oil is collapsing today. At least we will have cheap gas to burn on the Highway to Hell.
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re: #440 Anymouse
I’ve felt for a long time a voice in the wilderness making this exact argument here.
If the Democrats don’t contest every seat in every location, even the ones they expect to lose, they are no longer a national party.
I don’t see any liberals moving to the middle of the country. Even in solidly Red states like Mississippi, they had a Democratic state house until 2010. “Whoops, we were turned out of office, cede Mississippi to the Republicans for all time. Whoops, we lost our Democratic House seat in Nebraska in 2014, cede Nebraska for all time.”
That is not a strategy for winning, it is a strategy to wind up the party’s affairs.
Why would liberals move to a part of the country that won’t have them?
I understand your fears. But what are you asking people to do?
There was a time where there were liberals every where. You keep blaming liberals, and I don’t see you blaming what happened which created the issue.
re: #482 Targetpractice
Today, the GOP gets a pass on fact they don’t know ~or care~ that the bill they’re rushing to vote on deprives tens of millions of coverage.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 4, 2017
re: #462 Anymouse
I have friends who have lost a child with a lien on their house. When they die, the house goes to the bank, not the remaining children. My son bought a house in Fort Collins Co a number of years ago and the bulk of that money went to a hospital from the owner’s wife’s’ illness.
I have murder in my heart.
@Mikeny58 @doomdydoom @CaramelAtheist @Freeyourmindkid Italians (Romans) were great slavers. We enslaved anyone who wouldn’t submit to our authority. We also killed Jesus so don’t mess with us.
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 4, 2017
re: #484 Big Beautiful Door
The price of oil is collapsing today. At least we will have cheap gas to burn on the Highway to Hell.
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That is going to piss Putin off bigly.
When will he and his boys be talking to Donny and his boys again?
#BREAKING Video: @RepMarkTakano explaining how #Trumpcare rips healthcare tax credits from 7 million veterans #voteno #obamacarehelpedme pic.twitter.com/o7ZqOAsP0L
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) May 4, 2017
@funder
#BREAKING Video: @RepMarkTakano explaining how #Trumpcare rips healthcare tax credits from 7 million veterans #voteno #obamacarehelpedme
re: #485 Anymouse
Nope. When oil rises, microseconds later gasoline rises at the pump. When it falls, “we have to wait for what’s in the pipeline to be sold before we lower prices.”
Summer conversion, etc.
QUIZ: How much do you REALLY know about the #ACHA? Test your knowledge here. #PassTheBill
http:https://t.co/G7Z1mRw57N— House Republicans (@HouseGOP) March 18, 2017
Well there have been no hearings, no CBO score, no text of the bill and you assholes can’t even spell it right. So I guess not much? https://t.co/vxA9r4qOBr
— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) May 4, 2017
The same people who don’t want evolution taught in school, want it played-out in it’s most brutal form with humans. Survival of the fittest, most connected or richest —fuck the poor, let them claw themselves to the top.
Cream will rise to the top.
grrr
re: #485 Anymouse
Nope. When oil rises, microseconds later gasoline rises at the pump. When it falls, “we have to wait for what’s in the pipeline to be sold before we lower prices.”
That does not seem to be the case around here in Columbus. You can pretty much watch the price of oil dips and dives at the gas stations. I’ve seen them out changing the signs daily.
re: #498 klys (maker of Silmarils)
The one and only question should be “Does it give a tax cut to the rich while hurting everyone else?” And you should only be able to choose “yes.”
re: #489 ObserverArt
Why would liberals move to a part of the country that won’t have them?
I understand your fears. But what are you asking people to do?
There was a time where there were liberals every where. You keep blaming liberals, and I don’t see you blaming what happened which created the issue.
I’m not sure what you mean by the last sentence. I suppose if you never run Democrats it’s easy to say “an area won’t have them.” You know, we have Dems in our statehouse (at least where the Dems ran candidates).
re: #500 ObserverArt
That does not seem to be the case around here in Columbus. You can pretty much watch the price of oil dips and dives at the gas stations. I’ve seen them out changing the signs daily.
Years ago, I watched the entirety of the house debates on the price of oil. Periodically, as a response to public outcry to the price of gas, the House has a week or two of hearings and debates.
What I learned is that the price of gas is one of the most complex subjects I’ve ever encountered. I now stay out of all conversation regarding it.
re: #503 Birth Control Works
Years ago, I watched the entirety of the house debates on the price of oil. Periodically, as a response to public outcry to the price of gas, the House has a week or two of hearings and debates.
Was this before Netflix or did you just hate yourself?
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What do you all know about The Venus Project?
re: #506 Birth Control Works
cSPAN
I figured, I was just wondering why you would subject yourself to such monotony.
re: #505 Birth Control Works
What do you all know about The Venus Project?
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Judging from twitter traffic moderate R’s in 2018 will be painted as murderers of every uninsured child who dies between now and 2018 1/2
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) May 4, 2017
oh gosh, wow, what an unexpected side effect of voting to make sure a bunch of sick children are uninsurable https://t.co/Jjz7xyGnoG
— Genevieve Valentine (@GLValentine) May 4, 2017
Our Brave New World is going thru a lot of growing pains. This we know and expect and have been dealing with since 9/11.
This administration just was not on the radar for ANY sane person.
It seems that there were groups that did have it on their radar and they’ve been planning for a long time.
Since before William F. Buckley died. The religious fanatics got back in to CPAC and, wel, we know the rest.
re: #507 Timothy Watson
I figured, I was just wondering why you would subject yourself to such monotony.
I like to learn.
re: #510 The Vicious Babushka
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Rubin, 2011: Supposedly non-existent death panels removed from ObamaCare
Until we get sane on healthcare we won’t be a First world country.
re: #510 The Vicious Babushka
Are there any moderate Republicans in Congress?
#BREAKING Video: @RepMarkTakano explaining how #Trumpcare rips healthcare tax credits from 7 million veterans #voteno #obamacarehelpedme pic.twitter.com/o7ZqOAsP0L
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) May 4, 2017
re: #498 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Libtards paid by Soros are sabotaging our online quiz about our terrific healthcare plan!!!
re: #505 Birth Control Works
What do you all know about The Venus Project?
Well, I would have to go through their Website (there is a lot of material there), but it pretty much looks like every futurist proposal over the last sixty years or so.
This point on their Website is interesting:
Eliminating elitism, technical or otherwise.
Who needs technical “elitists?”
Within the experimental city, a theme park is also planned that will both entertain and inform visitors about the possibilities for humane and environmentally friendly life-styles planned by The Venus Project. It will feature intelligent houses; high-efficiency, non polluting transportation systems; advanced computer technology; and a number of other innovations that can add value to the lives of all people - in a very short period of time.
Disney for libertarians.
Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
That would be those creative elites they want to get rid of, apparently.
re: #515 Belafon
Are there any moderate Republicans in Congress?
I think there might be, but they have been cowered by the Jesus freaks.
re: #516 jaunte
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re: #515 Belafon
Are there any moderate Republicans in Congress?
They’re an endangered species these days.
re: #520 The Vicious Babushka
I see the Twitter embed code has been changed so you can’t click on the birdie to read the caption for the video.
Yeah, that pissed me off too.
Useful list (the House districts held by R that voted for Hillary in the 2016 election):
This chart shows the presidential & House election results for all 23 Republicans whose districts voted for Clinton https://t.co/7rZS3NcMsP pic.twitter.com/9vuWx4htTf
— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) February 6, 2017
I’m off for a nap. I need to go into town later. Hasta later, folks.
A Path to America, Marked by More and More Bodies
CASE 0438
A man illegally crossed the border into South Texas, died on the journey and was never identified. His remains were buried in a milk crate, his skull stained red from its contact with a bandanna.…
More people have died illegally crossing the southwestern border of the United States in the last 16 years than were killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and Hurricane Katrina combined. From October 2000 through September 2016, the Border Patrol documented 6,023 deaths in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas, while more than 4,800 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and Hurricane Katrina.
All those “Democrats” and “Liberals” who voted for Bernie and Stein, how’s that working out for you today? pic.twitter.com/ahqu58TayI
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) May 4, 2017
WASHINGTON (AP) _ House panel approves bill to undo much of Dodd-Frank law enacted after financial crisis.
— Ken Thomas (@KThomasDC) May 4, 2017
All the Republicans votes to deregulate banks.
All the Democrats voted not to.
Also: no difference between the parties. https://t.co/nrSdFflNe0— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 4, 2017
yet if they win by 1 vote, press poised to call it Major Victory for Trump.
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) May 4, 2017
re: #520 The Vicious Babushka
I see the Twitter embed code has been changed so you can’t click on the birdie to read the caption for the video.
It’s Mark Takano:
@RepMarkTakano 24m24 minutes ago
The #AHCA will put 7 million veterans at risk of being denied tax credits for health care.
How do I know?
I read the bill.
re: #529 Kragar
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re: #526 Dr. Matt
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HURR HURR NOW WE’LL GET OUT REVOLUTION SOON!!!1! WHO CARES IF THOUSANDS DIE IN THE MEANTIME?!!?!
And this…
American planes intercepted Russian bombers and fighters that flew close to the Alaska coast Tuesday night. https://t.co/6YThTelFal pic.twitter.com/XVanKGWoDD
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) May 4, 2017
Tony Alamo, Hollywood street preacher convicted of sexually abusing girls, dies at 82 https://t.co/XBsmPjGhnw
— ggt (@geegeetee) May 4, 2017
My Congressrep is WOKE. AS. FUCK.
I am calling her to tell her to KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT.
With .@MoveOn, standing w/ the people speaking against the @HouseGOP #Trumpcare disaster. Keep fighting. #Resist #WeThePeople #StayWoke pic.twitter.com/1mP8yUxJHS
— Brenda Lawrence (@RepLawrence) May 4, 2017
re: #489 ObserverArt
Why would liberals move to a part of the country that won’t have them?
I understand your fears. But what are you asking people to do?
There was a time where there were liberals every where. You keep blaming liberals, and I don’t see you blaming what happened which created the issue.
Fact of the matter is we’re going to go to placs that appeal to us. It’s who we are as people. It’s not the job of liberals with no or little ties to bright red regions to resettle those areas and make them Democratic. The people that already live tehre, that’s their responsibility. Whenever I canvass, I try to tell people that I’m a native to the area too and I’m not just some merc using the campaign I’m working on to make my resume impressive.
re: #528 FormerDirtDart
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WASHINGTON (AP) _ House panel approves bill to undo much of Dodd-Frank law enacted after financial crisis.
— Ken Thomas (@KThomasDC) May 4, 2017
GOP moving to gut consumer protections enacted after last financial crisis, scammers and fraudsters rejoice! https://t.co/QrkQtQoFZH
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 4, 2017
The GOP can’t help undo every consumer protection on the books. Besides fucking over everyone with health coverage (and millions who don’t because the GOP refused to expand coverage), they’re now looking to undo Dodd-Frank.
I’m running out of fucking expletives to describe these fuckers.
Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy to @DanaBashCNN: “We’re not taking a benefit away. Nobody on Medicaid is going to be taken away.”
— David Wright (@DavidWright_CNN) May 4, 2017
They’re cutting Medicaid by $839 billion, which will cover 14 million fewer people. This is not difficult math. https://t.co/GgzczyBVw2
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) May 4, 2017
re: #536 HappyWarrior
Fact of the matter is we’re going to go to placs that appeal to us. It’s who we are as people. It’s not the job of liberals with no or little ties to bright red regions to resettle those areas and make them Democratic. The people that already live tehre, that’s their responsibility. Whenever I canvass, I try to tell people that I’m a native to the area too and I’m not just some merc using the campaign I’m working on to make my resume impressive.
Also, jobs.
People move where there are jobs to support them.
I don’t hear an awful lot about jobs for software developers in rural Nebraska, to use an example. I do end up hearing a lot about how it would be very difficult to even work remotely for another company though. Definitely makes it very high on the list of places to move to, for sure.
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Okay time to go run. At least it’s cooler today?
re: #540 FormerDirtDart
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re: #536 HappyWarrior
Fact of the matter is we’re going to go to placs that appeal to us. It’s who we are as people. It’s not the job of liberals with no or little ties to bright red regions to resettle those areas and make them Democratic. The people that already live tehre, that’s their responsibility. Whenever I canvass, I try to tell people that I’m a native to the area too and I’m not just some merc using the campaign I’m working on to make my resume impressive.
Yeah, I wouldn’t apply for jobs in Southwest Virginia because I have no desire to live down there. I applied for some in Northern Virginia, because despite the traffic problems, I wouldn’t mind living there.
re: #539 lawhawk
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I’m running out of fucking expletives to describe these fuckers.
They’re actively working to dismantle every advance made in the last 8 years, but not to worry, I’m sure that Bernie will…spend more time in front of the press telling us how the DNC doesn’t care about the WWC.
re: #540 FormerDirtDart
Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy to @DanaBashCNN: “We’re not taking a benefit away. Nobody on Medicaid is going to be taken away.”
And lamestream media wouldn’t call them on the fact that the GOP won’t even wait for a CBO report to show many people will lose their coverage.
re: #541 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Also, jobs.
People move where there are jobs to support them.
I don’t hear an awful lot about jobs for software developers in rural Nebraska, to use an example. I do end up hearing a lot about how it would be very difficult to even work remotely for another company though. Definitely makes it very high on the list of places to move to, for sure.
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Okay time to go run. At least it’s cooler today?
When one of the companies was enticed by my smallish (20K at the time, 40K now) city to move there, the company said they only would if the city got high speed internet in the city. The city got AT&T to set up fiber.
If towns want to get people to move out there, if they want to grow, they’re going to have to do something similar.
SMH
APS investigated a threat at the high school. School was evacuated for a short time and are now returning back to class.
— Ash Public Safety (@AshPublicSafety) May 4, 2017
A student came to school wearing a Star Wars character mask for “May the Fourth Be With You Day”
— Ash Public Safety (@AshPublicSafety) May 4, 2017
re: #487 Targetpractice
Price of oil is dropping like a stone, which can only mean one thing: We need to drill the fuck out of every empty parcel of land!
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Sounds like cargo-cult science economics politics.
re: #547 Timothy Watson
And lamestream media wouldn’t call them on the fact that the GOP won’t even wait for a CBO report to show many people will lose their coverage.
CBO reports are just skewed phony math.
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So how long before Trump takes credit for dropping oil prices? I say end of business tomorrow.
re: #502 Anymouse
I’m not sure what you mean by the last sentence. I suppose if you never run Democrats it’s easy to say “an area won’t have them.” You know, we have Dems in our statehouse (at least where the Dems ran candidates).
Over time many people realized the country was changing and younger people moved out of what are now considered staunch Republican areas.
The big cities became the place to go from about the mid 70s on. Once in the bigger cities the people learned newer ways and met different people than they were surrounded with in their old town and communities. They became more liberal.
So that left behind elderly people, people that didn’t want to move and people that resented the move. Also there has long been the suspicion of Johnny and Mary going off to the big city. All that corruption and “those people” and the like.
Then along came Ronnie Reagan and his making people in those liberal cities the enemy of the people still in those old and now failing communities. Even larger farm communities in the rich farming areas of this country were hammered by the banks and corporate farming.
More resentment, more suspicion of big city ways built up and the Republicans used it.
Here we are.
( I could write more, so I hope you get the feeling of my thinking)
Now you have bastions of liberal thinking in the bigger cities. And you have people that feel left behind and turned more and more resentful of the liberals and blaming them for their problems. It has created us and them thinking.
I can see it here in Ohio between our states bigger metro areas and the small towns hanging on. You can see it by looking at the red/blue voting maps. Ohio in a way looks like the US voting maps. It looks red, but there are those dense blue areas.
My comment about “not having them” comes from that resentment and also the needs people have that are not met in those small isolated areas. I know there are liberals everywhere, like you mention the lesbians around you. But are they welcome? They may be tolerated, but that is different. You said you’d like more stuff around you and how you have to drive to find services and supplies. Not many people are going to do what you are doing.
I guess I am not blaming any one and see it as a progression of change in this country. It is still playing out. But while it does play out, there are all the things we are seeing going on all over. And many of those things are based on resentment, hate, bigotry and suspicion.
What that leads to is not many people will be moving to Logan Ohio, or your part of Nebraska. They don’t want to. The Republicans have their concerns and attitudes covered, they make it about resentment. The whole 2016 election was about resentment. People still clinging for a change that isn’t going to come because it is no longer 1900 or 1948. It isn’t even 1980.
That is why it is tough for the Democrats to fight the uphill battle of spending money in areas of the country that just plain might not have enough people to make anyone Democrat electable. No one will ahve them.
I’d like it to be how you want it too. But I guess I don’t see it as realistic in this time period. The big changes are still going on. I do see the bigger cities continuing to get bigger and bigger and that may mean a swing to more liberal thinking. But that is still in the future.
Meantime, the rich see it all as an opportunity to pit us against each other as they get back all the money they feel was taken from them though progressive thinking and social programs. They aren’t going to help you, or me. They aren’t going to help small towns or even big cities. Not right now. They are too busy helping themselves while we all fight over the scraps.
I blame America. All of us. We let education get away from us. We got lazy politically. We let religion take us down hateful roads. And we are letting things get out of control because we let it get out of control.
Divide and conquer. And they are.
tfw your foot hurts but you’re really excited about taking health insurance away from millions to cut taxes on millionaires pic.twitter.com/jawzCIbvbu
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 4, 2017
Chaffetz. The fucker has to go in for surgery for a preexisting condition. Insurance picks up the tab for his hospital, docs, rehab, wheelchair, etc., after copays.
Now salivating at the chance to deny the same level of coverage for other Americans all because he’s got to deliver huge tax cuts for the rich.
This isn’t a health care bill. It’s a tax redistribution scheme that guts health coverage to fund the tax cuts for the rich.
The GOP doesn’t mind redistribution of wealth, so long as the money flows in to the coffers of the rich.
Everyone else can pound sand.
How crossing the US-Mexico border became a crime
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re: #545 Targetpractice
They’re actively working to dismantle every advance made in the last 8 years, but not to worry, I’m sure that Bernie will…spend more time in front of the press telling us how the DNC doesn’t care about the WWC.
They’re gutting Medicare/Medicaid - so I’d go back to the Great Society, and if the GOP is successful here, watch them break out the knives to go after Social Security.
They want to gut 100 years of social and economic progress.
If any church in the greater Phoenix area endorses a candidate and I find out about it, I will be on their f#cking sidewalk the next time their doors are open. I don’t pay taxes for some God-botherers to use their tax exemption to endorse candidates.
And, to be exquisitely clear, that includes churches which endorse liberal candidates. You get a tax exemption, you endorse a candidate, you get a protest. That’s a promise.
re: #552 Sir John Barron
CBO reports are just skewed phony math.
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After all, its run by a commie libtard appointed by Paul Ryan./
re: #557 lawhawk
They’re gutting Medicare/Medicaid - so I’d go back to the Great Society, and if the GOP is successful here, watch them break out the knives to go after Social Security.
They want to gut 100 years of social and economic progress.
And they want to do so because it’s the only way they can “afford” the tax cuts they want to cram through next.
re: #560 Birth Control Works
Don’t Make Housing for the Poor Too Cozy, Carson Warns
compassionate physician —
/grrr
Working on establishing guidelines for minimum number of lego pieces to be strewn across floors of each room….
re: #535 The Vicious Babushka
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Your congress rep is much like mine, Joyce Beatty.
re: #560 Birth Control Works
How dare housing for homeless vets contain things like televisions or couches.
Those vets might get too comfortable in a safe setting.
re: #541 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Also, jobs.
People move where there are jobs to support them.
I don’t hear an awful lot about jobs for software developers in rural Nebraska, to use an example. I do end up hearing a lot about how it would be very difficult to even work remotely for another company though. Definitely makes it very high on the list of places to move to, for sure.
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Okay time to go run. At least it’s cooler today?
Right.
— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) May 4, 2017
re: #544 Timothy Watson
Yeah, I wouldn’t apply for jobs in Southwest Virginia because I have no desire to live down there. I applied for some in Northern Virginia, because despite the traffic problems, I wouldn’t mind living there.
Exactly. I like the variety NOVA offers me. I like that I can go to DC for shows, Baltimore for baseball games, etc. I’m not going to take my whole life to a place I have no ties to in the hopes of changing the political landscape. That’s something as I said that is really up to the peopel that live there and understand the area ebtter than an outsider like me.
re: #543 Birth Control Works
I bet Donny and the idiot supporters didn’t see that coming.
Even though they should have.
Great business man. Pfffft.
Oh well, he is Making Mexico Great Again.
re: #208 teleskiguy
Close to three hours ago I decided to go after some rando on Twitter, on a @BadAstronomer thread.
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@natehanco @BadAstronomer @HouseGOP That’s a #wingnut delusion. The far-right keep hallucinating things that they then use to justify being totalitarians who harm Americans.
— (((Jeff Furling))) (@FurlingtonJeff) May 4, 2017
re: #560 Birth Control Works
Don’t Make Housing for the Poor Too Cozy, Carson Warns
compassionate physician —
/grrr
And that happened right here in Columbus.
re: #527 The Vicious Babushka
But, redhead should count for something good….
re: #466 FormerDirtDart
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