Seth Meyers: Republicans Don’t Know What’s in Their Own Health Care Bill
Seth takes a closer look at Senate Republicans trying to vote next week on the health care bill they’ve written behind closed doors without telling anyone what’s in it.
Seth takes a closer look at Senate Republicans trying to vote next week on the health care bill they’ve written behind closed doors without telling anyone what’s in it.
Because strip it all away…white folks willfully chose the most ignorant, unstable incompetent candidate for President ever on 11/08/16.
— Rylo Ken (@Kennymack1971) June 22, 2017
re: #3 teleskiguy
Meanwhile in London. pic.twitter.com/EoZk1DPZNY
— You Had One Job (@_youhadonejob1) June 21, 2017
re: #5 jaunte
This one is hot fire.
Love the Brits. pic.twitter.com/rCjlZIehnB
— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) June 21, 2017
re: #3 teleskiguy
Current temperature in Phoenix, 108° F.
It’ll be 113 in Redding, CA tomorrow, where my parents live…(and that’s why I don’t live there anymore)…it’s a balmy 59 right now down here on the central coast.
One of the most shameless breathtakingly cynical exercises in political history
Deadly benchmarks at this point. Healthcare, foreign policy, hard economics all about the .01%ers.
The Kremlin has voiced regret about the new U.S. sanctions against Russia and warned of possible retaliation. https://t.co/6lfo4xbNGE pic.twitter.com/Qud0C7ggUd
— ABC News (@ABC) June 21, 2017
Like, what are they going to do? Hack our election so Donald Trump becomes president? https://t.co/l1nW5BTso0
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) June 21, 2017
Maybe this, for a followup:
Read through this slowly.
It’s a big fucking deal.
We’re talking over 61% of the entire US population. pic.twitter.com/MvUVPqSYoB— DW (@dark_wisdom_) June 21, 2017
This. Was. No. Accident.
This. Was. A. Lawful. Way. To. Give. Voter. Microtargeting. Data. To. Putin. For. 2018. https://t.co/zid9YPCda0— M.S. Bellows, Jr. (@msbellows) June 21, 2017
Yeah…I suspect most people aren’t even ready to think about the ramifications of this.
61% of Americans…that means there’s a 39% chance I’m not one of them…oh joy.
Read through this slowly.
It’s a big fucking deal.
We’re talking over 61% of the entire US population. pic.twitter.com/MvUVPqSYoB— DW (@dark_wisdom_) June 21, 2017
To further explain my post in the other thread, particularly the second part, it is related to my screen name. With the possible or likely dismantling of the ACA by the Republicans, mental health is going to take a big hit. I have benefitted from the ACA tremendously during the years that it has been around, and it is going to be heart-breaking to see mental health go back to pre-ACA coverage, which sucked ass. I think I understand desperation more than most, so I’ll tell my little story. I have always had my mental health issues from childhood on up, but it wasn’t until about the end of my teens that things completely cratered. It is a very hard thing to do piece your mind back together, especially when you have come to the realization that you never had all the pieces to begin with.
After about twenty years of hard work with many, many psychiatrists, I finally have all of my medications (4) figured out. Also, they are all generic at this point in time. So, that is great news here. The bad news is that I still have major issues with depression. Now, that’s not unusual for bipolar disorder. Those who are more functional than others with bipolar disorder is mainly because their depression and cognitive problems are less severe than others. In fact, I used to function half-way well until the depression just became too much. To be frank, treating depression in bipolar disorder is a mess. For those that don’t know much about it, treating bipolar depression with standard antidepressants is unpredictable. There are about three possible things that can happen. One, the medication works. Two, it does nothing at all. Three, it works, but it destabilizes your mood to such an extent that staying on it becomes a question. As for me, I am the second option. When it comes to a drug designed for bipolar depression by itself, and not another hand-me-down antidepressant, antipsychotic, or anticonvulsant, no such animal exists.
Fortunately for me, that looks like that might be changing. Even though 2016 became the year of the Trumpocalypse, I was able to test a “new” medication last fall that will be approved in 2018 that actually works for people like me. Now, I just have to worry about finishing school and hoping that when I am done, I will have access to that new medication.
Now, why did I share all of that? I guess I just wanted to show that things can look bad for a long, long time. I am talking Groundhog’s Day the movie for twenty years straight kind of bad, where every single day is grey and meaningless, but it is still possible for things to get better.
re: #3 teleskiguy
Current temperature in Phoenix, 108° F.
Current temperature in Broadwater, 78F.
I just got back from Scottsbluff. That trip to deliver water samples to the lab and my wife to the dentist (one of these things is not like the other) took me through Bayard, where they had the multi-vortex tornado in town last week.
Power has been restored to the city but there is significant damage downtown, with streets still closed due to debris.
re: #13 alloutofcrazyhere
You’re not alone. I’ve struggled with depression my entire adult life and it took well over a year to dial in my meds (two drugs, three if I have trouble sleeping).
Thanks for sharing, being honest, baring your psyche, all that. It means a lot.
re: #14 Anymouse 🌹
70° at casa del teleskiguy currently. Cooled off rather nicely here, it was 20° hotter five hours ago.
re: #16 teleskiguy
Nice cool down!
Extreme heat still radiating off of every damn thing here in Phoenix.
re: #15 teleskiguy
You’re not alone. I’ve struggled with depression my entire adult life and it took well over a year to dial in my meds (two drugs, three if I have trouble sleeping).
Thanks for sharing, being honest, baring your psyche, all that. It means a lot.
I dealt with straightening out control of my seizures for years. Due to socialised medicine (the US Navy then the Veterans Administration), it is unlikely I could never have afforded the necessary testing (twenty-four hour observation labs, endless EEGs, multiple failed drug trials - until they went with the last resort drug in First World countries).
Now the combination of killing or privatising the VA, coupled with rabid states intent on using my epilepsy drugs for the death penalty (which has had them blocked in the past by the EU for sale here) will lead me to a life of uncontrolled epilepsy (with concomitant loss of drivers licence and water operator permit).
There is one high government official with epilepsy who could speak out on our behalf but doesn’t: Supreme Court Justice John Roberts.
I understand his reluctance (personal medical information, misinformation about epilepsy and downright hatred of epileptics by some Christian sects, &c), but it would be a big help.
re: #15 teleskiguy
Sure. The drug that I am talking about is ketamine. There will be a nasal spray based off of it coming out in the somewhat near future (2018). Although, it really is a stop-gap solution until better medications come out that are a result of a better understanding on how ketamine works in the brain.
Ketamine infusions are available now, but are not covered by insurance. At $700 a pop, that’s not exactly affordable. Although, the new “formulation” will be once it arrives. I’ll admit it is rather frustrating having to wait to re-invent the wheel just for something old to get approved by the FDA for a new indication. That is a regulation that I would like to see changed with the FDA, as well as ordering medication from Canada. Although, policies that are detrimental to the pharmaceutical industries’ profit margins aren’t the type of regulations the conservatives want to do away with.
re: #17 JordanRules
I’ve been watching. First time in all of their record keeping that the NWS Tucson office recorded three consecutive days of 115° high temperature.
It’s fuckin’ June, yo.
Anyone else getting the feeling Russia is hacking 2 benefit Republicans because @GOP are just a teensy bit more corruptible?#maddow
— Resist🇺🇸Now ☮ (@ItIzBiz) June 22, 2017
Don’t need corruption to explain. Can also be understood as a product of GOP policies being intrinsically damaging to US long term interests https://t.co/Y20QyT8QYU
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) June 22, 2017
After Trump is finished the US will be left with severely damaged relations with every single one of it’s traditional allied democracies.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) June 22, 2017
The most important threat facing the planet over the next two centuries is global warming, where Trump forever forfeited our right to lead.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) June 22, 2017
re: #20 teleskiguy
I’ve been watching. First time in all of their record keeping that the NWS Tucson office recorded three consecutive days of 115° high temperature.
It’s fuckin’ June, yo.
I think Los Angeles caught a break this week and the worst was south and east. Atypical. But July, August, September are gonna be a right bitch.
re: #22 Unshaken Defiance
I think Los Angeles caught a break this week and the worst was south and east. Atypical. But July, August, September are gonna be a right bitch.
darthstar said earlier that triple digit heat will occur up in Redding. The whole of the Central Valley, the Mojave and Sonoran deserts, the Colorado Plateau, just getting scorched as we speak. Yikes.
re: #18 Anymouse 🌹
Yes, I am aware of the drug that you are talking about.
The one thing that I have always wondered about John Roberts is that if his 5-4 decision early on with regards to Obamacare might have been influenced by his own health problems.
re: #21 goddamnedfrank
The most important threat facing the planet over the next two centuries is global warming, where Trump forever forfeited our right to lead.
11:59 PM - 21 Jun 2017
The American people elected a conman who wants to return to the 1950’s. We will fall behind in every area of science in order to transfer funds to the 1%. He looks backwards and so does America.
re: #23 teleskiguy
Maybe we get Shake and Bake this summer. 5 point sumthin Richter and 100+
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re: #15 teleskiguy
You’re not alone. I’ve struggled with depression my entire adult life and it took well over a year to dial in my meds (two drugs, three if I have trouble sleeping).
Thanks for sharing, being honest, baring your psyche, all that. It means a lot.
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re: #23 teleskiguy
Yup LA got off easy this round. I’m grateful, you all be careful out there. Keep a bottle of water to drink all day
re: #24 alloutofcrazyhere
Yes, I am aware of the drug that you are talking about.
The one thing that I have always wondered about John Roberts is that if his 5-4 decision early on with regards to Obamacare might have been influenced by his own health problems.
That’s an interesting question. A Supreme Court justice shouldn’t allow personal anecdotes to influence their decisions, but they are human like everyone else. Chief Justice Roberts has personal experience with medications, physicians, and expensive tests though, so he could put himself in the shoes of someone who couldn’t afford that.
re: #28 Unshaken Defiance
So funny! See that little orange spot in the mountains of Colorado?
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And it’s been hot as balls around here, 90°+ at 6,600 feet elevation.
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66° here now up to 91 tomorrow. But nothing more than 81 for the next week. So ok.
I got a sheet of the new eclipse stamps today. (I will get another tomorrow, it was the last sheet in the post office.)
The postmistress noted that the ink used to cause the stamp to change from a black disc to the picture of the Moon is noted to have one problem: If it’s really hot, the stamp will stay with the picture of the Moon. The fix is to put the stamps in the freezer for fifteen seconds or so.
Tomorrow I break out my eclipse post cards and start writing.
re: #24 alloutofcrazyhere
Yes, I am aware of the drug that you are talking about.
The one thing that I have always wondered about John Roberts is that if his 5-4 decision early on with regards to Obamacare might have been influenced by his own health problems.
Michael Savage made that observation at the time (but he was much less charitable - he was ready to keelhaul Justice Roberts):
re: #35 Anymouse 🌹
I always thought Savage’s suits looked like something that were made from old drapes from a funeral home.
re: #38 alloutofcrazyhere
I always thought Savage’s suits looked like something that were made from old drapes from a funeral home.
The one in the picture at Real Clear Politics looks like it came from a nauga’s hyde.
re: #32 alloutofcrazyhere
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Frank Luntz Could Be the Dumbest Fuck on Earth if He Applied Himself (Goes to Wonkette, where they disassemble Mr. Luntz’s bogus analysis of the GA-6 election with liberal things like math)
re: #40 Anymouse 🌹
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I’m not linking InfoWars here, because I don’t want to track mud into Mr. Johnson’s on-line home.
That said, Alex Jones’s break from conspiracy theories is over. He has an article up today with “proof” Adolph Hitler escaped to Argentina.
Well, it’s 54 up here with a light sprinkle. Just cool enough to need the furnace to keep the chill out of the house.
re: #44 Cheechako
Well, it’s 54 up here with a light sprinkle. Just cool enough to need the furnace to keep the chill out of the house.
66 here now. Clear.
Got this via email, figured that I’d share.
“Arguing with a Trump supporter is like playing chess with a pigeon…….
No matter how good you are, the pigeon shits on the board and struts
around like it won anyway.”
The same could be said of those Hillary/Trump debates.
re: #46 alloutofcrazyhere
Got this via email, figured that I’d share.
“Arguing with a Trump supporter is like playing chess with a pigeon…….
No matter how good you are, the pigeon shits on the board and struts
around like it won anyway.”The same could be said of those Hillary/Trump debates.
Or Trump versus any of the other Republican candidates. Or pretty much Trump and anyone.
Good thing we made our trip to Churchill, Manitoba last year:
winnipegsun.com
Flooding has caused catastrophic damage to the rail line north of The Pas, Manitoba.
CHURCHILL, Man. — The only ground transportation to Churchill on the coast of Hudson Bay in northern Manitoba has been suspended indefinitely and is not expected to resume until winter.
The owners of the Hudson Bay Railway line say flooding that submerged a section of the track and stopped service on May 23 has caused severe damage.
“A preliminary assessment … indicates that the track bed has been washed away in 19 locations. Five bridges are visibly damaged and an additional 30 bridges and 600 culverts … will need to be further assessed for structural integrity,” Omnitrax Inc. said in a news release Friday.
This is terrible news for Churchill: That means the only connexion to Churchill is now by air or ship. Air-based freight service is being established from Thompson, which is extremely expensive.
This also kills the tourist season in Churchill, and is a burden on the Northern Studies Centre (which studies the Arctic and climate science). There is a VIA Rail train stranded in Churchill.
More at the Winnipeg Sun
re: #28 Unshaken Defiance
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Yup LA got off easy this round. I’m grateful, you all be careful out there. Keep a bottle of water to drink all day
I posted this already for my friends and relatives in Phoenix:
The Fast Show: Portugese weather forecast
although slightly less funny: Portugal has been plagued by forest fires, resulting in dozens of deaths.
This, according to the BBC has to do with the fact that most of Portugal’s forests are privately owned in small parcels and often poorly managed with no coordinated fire-fighting plans in place.
A thought to keep in mind when we start privatizing all of our national forest lands…
re: #31 teleskiguy
So funny! See that little orange spot in the mountains of Colorado?
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And it’s been hot as balls around here, 90°+ at 6,600 feet elevation.
See that deep green spot in the Nebraska Panhandle?
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It was quite hot today at 3,666 feet of elevation, but now at 2AM in Unicorn Daylight Time, it’s 69F.
re: #43 Anymouse 🌹
…Alex Jones’s break from conspiracy theories is over. He has an article up today with “proof” Adolph Hitler escaped to Argentina.
Proof!
The last 4 days here were 108, 100, 98, 96 and tomorrow is forecast to be 103, but at least it’s a dry heat.
re: #52 Single-handed sailor
The last 4 days here were 108, 100, 98, 96 and tomorrow is forecast to be 103, but at least it’s a dry heat.
Dry heat, like a fire? :)
re: #43 Anymouse 🌹
I’m not linking InfoWars here, because I don’t want to track mud into Mr. Johnson’s on-line home.
That said, Alex Jones’s break from conspiracy theories is over. He has an article up today with “proof” Adolph Hitler escaped to Argentina.
BBC recently ran an article about some Nazi-era artifacts turning up in Argentina. Proof enough for AJ
re: #53 Timothy Watson
Dry heat, like a fire? :)
I hear that “dry heat” think and think I’m going to catch fire, like dry leaves.
re: #55 Anymouse 🌹
I hear that “dry heat” think and think I’m going to catch fire, like dry leaves.
Here on the Rhine we only have temps in the upper 80’s, but over 60% humidity. I would prefer a dry heat most any day…
I’m 25 miles NE of the Golden Gate Bridge and It can be 56 there and 110 here. Micro-climates is an often used term for weather in the bay area.
re: #57 Single-handed sailor
I’m 25 miles NE of the Golden Gate Bridge and It can be 56 there and 110 here. Micro-climates is an often used term for weather in the bay area.
We don’t really have microclimates out here in the land of much sand and no ocean. Just lots of arid in the summer (along with tornadoes) and snow in the winter.
Over at Wonkette, we are not discussing the latest “flat earth” derp: That mountains are really petrified tree stumps and trees were really eleven miles high or so. They were apparently all destroyed in the XIX Century nuclear war. (I kid you not, flat-earthers are discussing this as if it’s serious.)
I had two great-grandmothers and one great-great grandmother born in the XIX Century who all died after I was an adult. I would think if there was some nuclear war in the XIX Century they might have heard about it and told me, but that’s just me. (One great-grandmother only missed the XXI Century by a few years.)
re: #58 Anymouse 🌹
There is also a theory presented that the Middle Ages never happened and that our calendar is off by centuries…
But this is modern America, where anybody’s facts are as good as anybody else and we don’t have to listen to what snooty over-educated liberal elitist “experts” tell us about anything, especially if it contradicts our firmly-held system of beliefs.
re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There is also a theory presented that the Middle Ages never happened and that our calendar is off by centuries…
But this is modern America, where anybody’s facts are as good as anybody else and we don’t have to listen to what snooty over-educated liberal elitist “experts” tell us about anything, especially if it contradicts our firmly-held system of beliefs.
I’m one of the coastal liberal elites. (Well, I live in the Sandhills, sometimes called the Inland Coast. I am a liberal, and I guess “high school education with head screwed on straight” constitutes elite these days.)
There has always been an anti-intellectual strain in this country. As far as elites go, if I need surgery I want the most elite surgeon I can dig up. If I want my plumbing fixed, I want the best plumber around. I don’t want a plumber doing my surgery or a surgeon doing my plumbing. And I don’t want either flying a commercial plane (as in that cartoon that pops up here occasionally on the passengers voting on a new pilot).
re: #60 Anymouse 🌹
I’m one of the coastal liberal elites. (Well, I live in the Sandhills, sometimes called the Inland Coast. I am a liberal, and I guess “high school education with head screwed on straight” constitutes elite these days.)
There has always been an anti-intellectual strain in this country. As far as elites go, if I need surgery I want the most elite surgeon I can dig up. If I want my plumbing fixed, I want the best plumber around. I don’t want a plumber doing my surgery or a surgeon doing my plumbing. And I don’t want either flying a commercial plane (as in that cartoon that pops up here occasionally on the passengers voting on a new pilot).
I think that came about over a sense of cultural and intellectual inferiority with regard to Europe. For that, we maintained, we were more moral and intestinally fortitudinous than those effete, decadent Euroweenies .
We have now come full circle and elected a President who is neither cultured, moral nor intellectual.
You and I are about the same age, and I think that we were also the last generation that was able to obtain a decent public education. We are paying the price of the declining standards that set in starting in the early 80’s…
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Well, it’s still fixable (dammit, why is it always Dems who have to fix stuff). It will take some time and a lot of work though. This “the private sector can do everything better” nonsense started by St. Reagan needs to die in a fire though.
re: #62 Anymouse 🌹
Well, it’s still fixable (dammit, why is it always Dems who have to fix stuff). It will take some time and a lot of work though. This “the private sector can do everything better” nonsense started by St. Reagan needs to die in a fire though.
Betsy DuVois is about to set it back by even more decades…
Too many people are convinced that teachers are all union thugs and parasites who provide little benefit for the cost of employing them and providing them with facilities.
Scott Walker in Wisconsin made that one of his major themes in governing.
re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Betsy DuVois is about to set it back by even more decades…
Too many people are convinced that teachers are all union thugs and parasites who provide little benefit for the cost of employing them and providing them with facilities.
Scott Walker in Wisconsin made that one of his major themes in governing.
Well, we’ll have to see how this shakes out. There are red states that value education (like mine) and ensure the schools and universities stay funded.
I just got tagged (a couple minutes ago) by our town’s parade committee to march at the head of next week’s parade with the US Flag. (I did that last year as well.) Grab the leftie socialist liberal guy for that (well, I am the flag committee guy too - I wear multiple non-paying hats).
It’s 64° here in “Sharia-controlled” Dearborn, supposed to go up to 90° today.
re: #65 The Vicious Babushka
It’s 64° here in “Sharia-controlled” Dearborn, supposed to go up to 90° today.
You sure that’s not “Shakira-controlled” Dearborn? (I welcome our Shakira overlady.)
Here it’s 71 in Mythical Time Zone.
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹
You sure that’s not “Shakira-controlled” Dearborn? (I welcome our Shakira overlady.)
Here it’s 71 in Mythical Time Zone.
The Shakira Law meme is like so 2015.
re: #67 The Vicious Babushka
The Shakira Law meme is like so 2015.
In western Pennsylvania is it Quakira Law?
re: #60 Anymouse 🌹
There has always been an anti-intellectual strain in this country. As far as elites go, if I need surgery I want the most elite surgeon I can dig up. If I want my plumbing fixed, I want the best plumber around. I don’t want a plumber doing my surgery or a surgeon doing my plumbing. And I don’t want either flying a commercial plane (as in that cartoon that pops up here occasionally on the passengers voting on a new pilot).
No, No, No. You can’t trust trained surgeons or professional plumbers because they’re part of the corrupt system. They are just trying to take your money and will gum up things so your body’s and home’s plumbing is always in need of repair. Plus they’ll leave tracking and monitoring devices behind so they can steal your guns and pet your cat while your away from home. They’ll also post recordings of your bowel movements online. I know this is true because it happened to my cousin Bob’s friend’s baker’s accountant. Your can only trust real American plumbers and surgeons who operate out of pawn shops and the back of pickup trucks. Even with those, you should only use the same one a maximum of two times because they become corrupted by the establishment.
Each day at Zimmer Biomet headquarters, machinists on one robot-assisted factory floor churn out about 3,000 metallic knee parts. They are facing pressure to crank up the pace as the population ages and demand soars.But the artificial-bone giant is grappling with a steep downside of the nation’s low unemployment rate: It is struggling to find enough workers, despite offering some of the region’s best pay and benefits. Forty positions sit open.
Other manufacturers in Kosciusko County, home to roughly one-third of global orthopedic device production, are running into the same problem.
[…]
With the U.S. unemployment rate at a 16-year low of 4.3 percent, employers across the country are dealing with a dearth of potential hires. Economists say that talent shortages are growing constraints on the country’s economic expansion, especially as millions of baby boomers enter retirement.
Serfs don’t need no education!
74F here in Richmond with 86% humidity, supposed to hit 92F.
re: #67 The Vicious Babushka
The Shakira Law meme is like so 2015.
It’s still a thing. It’s not so much a meme as an article of faith now.
Remarkable clip from tonight where Trump explains why only rich people should be in charge of economic policy.
“I don’t want a poor person” pic.twitter.com/HdWFg0aU1t— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) June 22, 2017
Holy shit!! 2.1 mile shot!
Canadian elite special forces sniper makes record-breaking kill shot in Iraq
A sniper with Canada’s elite special forces in Iraq has shattered the world record for the longest confirmed kill shot in military history at a staggering distance of 3,450 metres.
Sources say a member of Joint Task Force 2 killed an Islamic State insurgent with a McMillan TAC-50 sniper rifle while firing from a high-rise during an operation that took place within the last month in Iraq. It took under 10 seconds to hit the target.
“The shot in question actually disrupted a Daesh [Islamic State] attack on Iraqi security forces,” said a military source, who stressed the operation fell within the strictures of the government’s advise and assist mission. “Instead of dropping a bomb that could potentially kill civilians in the area, it is a very precise application of force and because it was so far way, the bad guys didn’t have a clue what was happening.”
re: #69 Weaselone
No, No, No. You can’t trust trained surgeons or professional plumbers because they’re part of the corrupt system. They are just trying to take your money and will gum up things so your body’s and home’s plumbing is always in need of repair. Plus they’ll leave tracking and monitoring devices behind so they can steal your guns and pet your cat while your away from home. They’ll also post recordings of your bowel movements online. I know this is true because it happened to my cousin Bob’s friend’s baker’s accountant. Your can only trust real American plumbers and surgeons who operate out of pawn shops and the back of pickup trucks. Even with those, you should only use the same one a maximum of two times because they become corrupted by the establishment.
We saw a similar mentality in the Eastern Bloc, when they replaced ideologically unreliable but competent people with party hacks. And we saw how well that worked out for them.
re: #75 Amory Blaine
Holy shit!! 2.1 mile shot!
Canadian elite special forces sniper makes record-breaking kill shot in Iraq
Those kind of elites are okay…they kill people.
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re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Those kind of elites are okay…they kill people.
/
So much for American exceptionalism!
re: #67 The Vicious Babushka
The Shakira Law meme is like so 2015.
I still like it (and Shakira). I guess I’m just an oldz.
re: #43 Anymouse 🌹
I’m not linking InfoWars here, because I don’t want to track mud into Mr. Johnson’s on-line home.
That said, Alex Jones’s break from conspiracy theories is over. He has an article up today with “proof” Adolph Hitler escaped to Argentina.
And he’s desperate to get in contact with Adolf because he admires him so.
re: #80 Patricia Kayden
And he’s desperate to get in contact with Adolf because he admires him so.
Maybe he needs to get in contact with a Spiritualist.
Next on InfoWars: Alex Jones leads a seance.
I just closed my front door. There’s a bunch of grouse in my yard. Too bad a) I don’t have a hunting licence, b) it’s not grouse season, c) it’s illegal to use a shotgun in the city limits except for self-defence.
Maybe I can claim I was defending myself from a vicious covey of grouse. I’ve already been attacked in the past two weeks by a domestic goose when I was at the village shop, and a flock of chickens when I was trying to get into the main village well. (Damn goose actually managed to slice my leg with its beak as I was getting out of my car: It ambushed me, and how the hell does a goose slice anything with its beak?)
Here is a transcript of Trump’s remarks on his “solar wall.” pic.twitter.com/i9URaRq3h6
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 22, 2017
Intel chiefs tell investigators Trump suggested they refute collusion with Russians (goes to CNN)
Two of the nation’s top intelligence officials told Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team and Senate investigators, in separate meetings last week, that President Donald Trump suggested they say publicly there was no collusion between his campaign and the Russians, according to multiple sources.
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers described their interactions with the President about the Russia investigation as odd and uncomfortable, but said they did not believe the President gave them orders to interfere, according to multiple sources familiar with their accounts.
Sources say both men went further than they did in June 7 public hearings, when they provided little detail about the interactions.
(more at the link)
If CNN is correct here, that adds to the acrid smell of obstruction in the air… .
re: #83 Anymouse 🌹
Intel chiefs tell investigators Trump suggested they refute collusion with Russians (goes to CNN)
(more at the link)
If CNN is correct here, that adds to the acrid smell of obstruction in the air… .
The Commander-in-Chief “suggests” something to an Admiral, but it’s totally not an order.
re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Those kind of elites are okay…they kill people.
/
I’m not so big on glorifying warfare. Just me, I guess. Did The Globe and Mail really need to put an Olympics-style leaderboard of kill shots in their article?
re: #8 Unshaken Defiance
Deadly benchmarks at this point. Healthcare, foreign policy, hard economics all about the .01%ers.
I’m old enough to remember when the Democratic “process” with the ACA about near brought the Republic to an end. Now? Everybody’s ‘meh’.
They will get him next time:
11-1
On Friday, a judge declared a mistrial in the case of sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby after the jury was unable to come to a verdict in several days of deliberations. ABC News has learned that on two counts of felony aggravated indecent assault, the jury was hung 10-2 in favor of a guilty verdict, and on a third count they were hung 11-1 in favor of a guilty verdict. [ABC News]
from 538
re: #83 Anymouse 🌹
Intel chiefs tell investigators Trump suggested they refute collusion with Russians (goes to CNN)
(more at the link)
If CNN is correct here, that adds to the acrid smell of obstruction in the air… .
Time for another David Brooks column about how all this ‘Russian collusion’ stuff is a bunch of nothing, not nearly as serious as the great Clinton Whitewater scandal.
This “Ditch Pelosi now, we need to blow up the party completely to save it’ bullshit roiling through right now is giving me a grim outlook toward ‘18. Our party’s really going to cannibalize itself to appease the purity pony brigade and the dudebros, isn’t it?
re: #13 alloutofcrazyhere
To further explain my post in the other thread, particularly the second part, it is related to my screen name. With the possible or likely dismantling of the ACA by the Republicans, mental health is going to take a big hit. I have benefitted from the ACA tremendously during the years that it has been around, and it is going to be heart-breaking to see mental health go back to pre-ACA coverage, which sucked ass. I think I understand desperation more than most, so I’ll tell my little story. I have always had my mental health issues from childhood on up, but it wasn’t until about the end of my teens that things completely cratered. It is a very hard thing to do piece your mind back together, especially when you have come to the realization that you never had all the pieces to begin with.
After about twenty years of hard work with many, many psychiatrists, I finally have all of my medications (4) figured out. Also, they are all generic at this point in time. So, that is great news here. The bad news is that I still have major issues with depression. Now, that’s not unusual for bipolar disorder. Those who are more functional than others with bipolar disorder is mainly because their depression and cognitive problems are less severe than others. In fact, I used to function half-way well until the depression just became too much. To be frank, treating depression in bipolar disorder is a mess. For those that don’t know much about it, treating bipolar depression with standard antidepressants is unpredictable. There are about three possible things that can happen. One, the medication works. Two, it does nothing at all. Three, it works, but it destabilizes your mood to such an extent that staying on it becomes a question. As for me, I am the second option. When it comes to a drug designed for bipolar depression by itself, and not another hand-me-down antidepressant, antipsychotic, or anticonvulsant, no such animal exists.
Fortunately for me, that looks like that might be changing. Even though 2016 became the year of the Trumpocalypse, I was able to test a “new” medication last fall that will be approved in 2018 that actually works for people like me. Now, I just have to worry about finishing school and hoping that when I am done, I will have access to that new medication.
Now, why did I share all of that? I guess I just wanted to show that things can look bad for a long, long time. I am talking Groundhog’s Day the movie for twenty years straight kind of bad, where every single day is grey and meaningless, but it is still possible for things to get better.
* Raises hand. * Member of the bipolar fam here. Check your Lamictal at the door.
I am, fortunately, someone who has always been more on the hypomanic side of the spectrum, but when I hit a depressive episode it takes a regular anti-depressant and an anti-psychotic to snap me out of it. These are very expensive meds….I can’t take the older or generic ones. And if I don’t take them I’m a wraith.
I have been incredibly fortunate to have insurance from the time I was diagnosed 20 years ago. The thought of people with mental illnesses like mine having no access to the medications they need is both horrifying and so WASTEFUL. Because so many of us are compassionate, brilliant, creative, and understand struggle and overcoming odds.
I will fight for treatment for the mentally ill for the rest of my life.
re: #88 Sir John Barron
Time for another David Brooks column about how all this ‘Russian collusion’ stuff is a bunch of nothing, not nearly as serious as the great Clinton Whitewater scandal.
More at the link:
One of President Donald Trump’s newest appointees is a registered agent of Saudi Arabia earning hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby on the kingdom’s behalf, according to U.S. Department of Justice records reviewed by the Center for Public Integrity.
Since January, the Saudi Arabian foreign ministry has paid longtime Republican lobbyist Richard Hohlt about $430,000 in exchange for “advice on legislative and public affairs strategies.”
Trump’s decision to appoint a registered foreign agent to the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships clashes with the president’s vow to clean up Washington and limit the influence of special interests.
Trump singled out lobbyists for foreign governments for special criticism, saying they shouldn’t be permitted to contribute to political campaigns. Hohlt is himself a Trump donor, though his contributions came before he registered to represent Saudi Arabia.
re: #89 Citizen K
This “Ditch Pelosi now, we need to blow up the party completely to save it’ bullshit roiling through right now is giving me a grim outlook toward ‘18. Our party’s really going to cannibalize itself to appease the purity pony brigade and the dudebros, isn’t it?
All the attacks on Pelosi are coming from ratfucking JillShills and BernieOrBusters.
re: #86 Sir John Barron
I’m old enough to remember when the Democratic “process” with the ACA about near brought the Republic to an end. Now? Everybody’s ‘meh’.
I was waiting in a GOP Senator’s office today and the front desk phones were ringing nonstop with angry health care calls
— Michael Crowley (@michaelcrowley) June 21, 2017
No Surprise department entry 1063
SAN FRANCISCO — A man who allegedly rode his motorcycle through a crowd of activists blocking a San Francisco street during a Wednesday afternoon protest against the GOP health care bill was detained by police after the dangerous stunt…
…While police did not release his identity, reports indicated the motorcycle used in the incident was registered to Jeffery Dillon of San Francisco. Dillon is same man who is listed as an administrator of a Facebook group called the “White Privilege Club.”
re: #92 The Vicious Babushka
All the attacks on Pelosi are coming from ratfucking JillShills and BernieOrBusters.
Who do they want to replace her anyway? A magical pony?
re: #95 Timothy Watson
Who do they want to replace her anyway? A magical pony?
You know, that guy, who was in the House in 2009, who would have gotten Universal Healthcare through both the House and Senate. Him.
re: #92 The Vicious Babushka
All the attacks on Pelosi are coming from ratfucking JillShills and BernieOrBusters.
Yeah, I understand that much. But it seems to be gaining enough purchase in both rank & file and the base, especially in the aftermath of the special elections, that it looks like it’s only going to grow rather than go away any time soon. I mean, fuck, how many anecdotes and news stories have we seen about folks on the left having bought full in to the propaganda from the right and then somehow interpreting it all as ‘it’s because Dems aren’t left enough!” (Yes, I know ‘anecdote’ and ‘data’ aren’t synonymous, but fucking still…) And with the worst of Trump seemingly yet to come (next week, for that matter), having such a goddamn loud section of the left seeing only us as the enemy at this point is…
Christ help me. Especially when it’s clear that the core of the party and the lefter-than-thou assholes barely have any sunlight between them on policy.
re: #95 Timothy Watson
Who do they want to replace her anyway? A magical pony?
“Anybody”.
Abe Lincoln: ‘Anybody’ will do for you, but I must have ‘somebody’.
re: #93 Belafon
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It’s funny because you wouldn’t fucking know it from the way the media has covered this since it was put in the Senate’s hands..
re: #96 Belafon
You know, that guy, who was in the House in 2009, who would have gotten Universal Healthcare through both the House and Senate. Him.
I’m guessing you mean Jimmy Stewart, but he was in the House much earlier than that.
re: #96 Belafon
You know, that guy, who was in the House in 2009, who would have gotten Universal Healthcare through both the House and Senate. Him.
My favorite congressman.
re: #99 Citizen K
It’s funny because you wouldn’t fucking know it from the way the media has covered this since it was put in the Senate’s hands..
“The Media” exists to sell pickup trucks and boner pills. They will not be riding to the rescue, though they will re-cap the story if it has enough of a body count.
seems appropriate:
i got u some flowers pic.twitter.com/sBEnpfF1bl
— sarah maria griff 🌴 (@griffski) June 21, 2017
Rebecca Burger (a French model, age 33) was killed after a whipped cream cannister exploded and hit her in the chest.
The cannister is of the sort homes and commercial kitchens use to make whipped cream, not a store-bought can.
Teh crazies continues…
By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn’t they stop them?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017
re: #92 The Vicious Babushka
All the attacks on Pelosi are coming from ratfucking JillShills and BernieOrBusters.
There’s plenty coming from the right as well.
re: #105 The Vicious Babushka
By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn’t they stop them?
— Donald J. Trump
Yes, this is a great response, Donald. Irrefutable. Slam dunk. So much winning here.
/
re: #105 The Vicious Babushka
Teh crazies continues…
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Starting to sound like The Joker taunting the Gotham cops.
re: #75 Amory Blaine
That’s a win for the good guys. I’m not above celebrating the loss of an ISIS combatant without blasting half the block. They give good reason daily.
re: #97 Citizen K
Yeah, I understand that much. But it seems to be gaining enough purchase in both rank & file and the base, especially in the aftermath of the special elections, that it looks like it’s only going to grow rather than go away any time soon. I mean, fuck, how many anecdotes and news stories have we seen about folks on the left having bought full in to the propaganda from the right and then somehow interpreting it all as ‘it’s because Dems aren’t left enough!” (Yes, I know ‘anecdote’ and ‘data’ aren’t synonymous, but fucking still…) And with the worst of Trump seemingly yet to come (next week, for that matter), having such a goddamn loud section of the left seeing only us as the enemy at this point is…
Christ help me. Especially when it’s clear that the core of the party and the lefter-than-thou assholes barely have any sunlight between them on policy.
Though the GOP was headed in that direction anyway at the time, this is the problem Republicans faced with the Tea Party.
We don’t need a lefty version of the Tea Party.
re: #106 Anymouse 🌹
There’s plenty coming from the right as well.
Who will treat respectfully whoever the Dems appoint as a replacement, and won’t feature this person in campaign attack ads or demonize like they do Pelosi, who is after all from San Francisco, which isn’t even America.
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Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017
Somebody get this guy a bigger golden shovel. https://t.co/AcXM6oaLmo
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #112 Sir John Barron
Who will treat respectfully whoever the Dems appoint as a replacement, and won’t feature this person in campaign attack ads or demonize like they do Pelosi, who is after all from San Francisco, which isn’t even America.
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I replied to a tweet last night and pointed out basically the same thing, that whoever they choose will become the most liberal person ever, trying to take all your money and give it all to those others.
I don’t know how accurate this is, but according to Mic, the Washington Post got a draft copy of the GOP wealthcare plan. The Post says it is to be released at 11AM.
• Repeal all taxes instituted by the Affordable Care Act, particularly on the wealthy
• Reduce Medicaid funding in the long term
• Continue to provide subsidies to help people purchase insurance
• Eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood
• End the requirement that all Americans have health insurance
• No longer require companies with more than 50 employees to provide health insurance
More at the link. Most of it is similar to the DOA House bill, but there are differences according to Mic.
I just asked Lisa Murkowski if she’s seen any bill text this morning. “I am not a reporter, and I am not a lobbyist, so I’ve seen nothing.”
— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) June 22, 2017
it would be funny if it weren’t so depressing https://t.co/GhpjmuUxsG
— Emily C. Singer (@CahnEmily) June 22, 2017
re: #113 darthstar
Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia.
— Donald J. Trump
re: #105 The Vicious Babushka
By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn’t they stop them?
— Donald J. Trump
Donald really seems concerned about this ‘collusion’ business today.
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re: #116 Anymouse 🌹
Repeal all taxes instituted by the Affordable Care Act, particularly on the wealthy
This is the critical piece for the GOP. The rest is window-dressing.
re: #116 Anymouse 🌹
• Repeal all taxes
instituted by the Affordable Care Act, particularlyon the wealthy
ftfy
re: #122 Anymouse 🌹
Is that a planter?
I guess, it’s the type of shovel you see at groundbreakings and the like.
re: #118 Sir John Barron
Donald really seems concerned about this ‘collusion’ business today.
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He just had a big esteem building rally in Iowa last night too…you’d think he’d ride that feeling…or is the buzz of a rally not as good as it used to be?
re: #116 Anymouse 🌹
No longer require companies with more than 50 employees to provide health insurance
Actually this is a pretty close second. Combined with the provision ending the requirement, or goal, of everyone having insurance coverage, we will surely reduce the ranks of the insured population.
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re: #13 alloutofcrazyhere
Thanks for sharing.
AS of now all my meds are covered —most of them are pretty standard.
What really, really bothers me is the availability of psychiatrists. Especially those accepting kids under 13 and medicare. In my part of the world, those that are so overbooked, one can’t be sure they are providing adequate treatment.
I know this because a friend fostered and is now guardian of younger members of her extended family. Luckily her husband’s insurance covers children in guardianship. The out-of-pocket costs are still high, but they have been taking $ out of their personal retirement savings. These kids might actually graduate high school. . Their issues are 90% environmental —their life before being taken from their parents.
This is with ACA. Now, what about the 99.9% of kids in the foster care system who don’t have family members willing and ABLE to take care of them?
This is the future of our country.
re: #116 Anymouse 🌹
Repeal all taxes instituted by the Affordable Care Act, particularly on the wealthy
Here’s the thing that gets me about this one…they’re also planning to cut taxes for the rich as part of their ‘Tax Reform’ plan…so they’re getting not one, but two major tax cuts back to back.
Hey .@SenSanders thought you didn’t know Tim Canova. Forgetful at your old age? pic.twitter.com/CbdhNjdjDz
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) June 22, 2017
re: #41 Anymouse 🌹
Frank Luntz Could Be the Dumbest Fuck on Earth if He Applied Himself (Goes to Wonkette, where they disassemble Mr. Luntz’s bogus analysis of the GA-6 election with liberal things like math)
He ain’t so dumb. IIRC, he has created spin for the GOP for quit some time and it seems to be working.
The wingnut that goes by the name of Baked Alaska (Tim Gionet) claims his bodyguard is in hospital after being shanked by a whole bunch (two) anti-white, anti-Trump Armenians. He is claiming a hate crime, which apparently the LAPD aren’t buying. He is apparently all over Twitter spinning up his tale of Armenian hate-crimers.
The LAPD arrested the two men and are holding them on charges of attempted murder.
SMOTI jumped on the story about “Armenian gang members” but deleted that part (not before a screen grab was taken, and its still in the URL).
Wonkette has all the details of the stabbing with appropriate shots from Twitter.
Expect the wingnutosphere to explode.
re: #88 Sir John Barron
Time for another David Brooks column about how all this ‘Russian collusion’ stuff is a bunch of nothing, not nearly as serious as the great Clinton Whitewater scandal.
Dilbert has been playing this theme lately. Fellow employees spread rumors about Dibert colluding with Elbonia. Yawn.
NEW: Trumpcare will impose lifetime/annual limits on 20-27 million in employer plans nationwide. https://t.co/BjRJQk5oK8
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) June 15, 2017
Just in case you think “I get insurance through my job so this won’t affect me” https://t.co/zJKAaMtDzi
— Rylo Ken (@Kennymack1971) June 22, 2017
re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I posted this already for my friends and relatives in Phoenix:
The Fast Show: Portugese weather forecast
although slightly less funny: Portugal has been plagued by forest fires, resulting in dozens of deaths.
This, according to the BBC has to do with the fact that most of Portugal’s forests are privately owned in small parcels and often poorly managed with no coordinated fire-fighting plans in place.
A thought to keep in mind when we start privatizing all of our national forest lands…
Not to be confused with Portuguese Irregular Verbs.amazon.com
Sorry, I was reminded of the bookl
re: #105 The Vicious Babushka
Wasn’t there a NYT article (or other news org) that said as plain as day that Republicans ignored all the signs Russia had been digging into out systems even before the primaries?
re: #134 darthstar
I’m safe (for now) due to my VA and Tricare for my wife. I expect the GOP to turn to those soon.
Can one obtain political asylum for inability to obtain health services? Asking for 23 million people.
re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
BBC recently ran an article about some Nazi-era artifacts turning up in Argentina. Proof enough for AJ
Then there was that whole series.
re: #92 The Vicious Babushka
All the attacks on Pelosi are coming from ratfucking JillShills and BernieOrBusters.
Unfortunately that is not what is happening. Democratic representatives from red states are starting to think she is a drain image wise. Even Tim Ryan from Ohio is saying they may have to take a look at someone else because of Pelosi being a negative image used against the Democrats.
When pushed, Ryan and others say they love Pelosi, her toughness, experience and fund raising, but they have to consider the future and the fact that she is used as a hammer.
I think they got all caught up with those nasty commercials in the Georgia election where Pelosi was used as the evil leader of the party spreading Hollywood and abortion all over this land.
It’s sad, as is all of the politics in this country.
The Democrats are worried about image while the entire image of the Republican party is Trump.
re: #138 Anymouse 🌹
I’m safe (for now) due to my VA and Tricare for my wife. I expect the GOP to turn to those soon.
Can one obtain political asylum for inability to obtain health services? Asking for 23 million people.
It’s large employers that can really fuck people…take WalMart - they employ 2.1 million people in the US…if they base their health care in Arkansas, and Arkansas has a waiver (for preventive care, birth control, etc.) they can provide insurance to people in every state with annual and lifetime limits.
re: #87 I Would Prefer Not To
They will get him next time:
11-1
On Friday, a judge declared a mistrial in the case of sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby after the jury was unable to come to a verdict in several days of deliberations. ABC News has learned that on two counts of felony aggravated indecent assault, the jury was hung 10-2 in favor of a guilty verdict, and on a third count they were hung 11-1 in favor of a guilty verdict. [ABC News]
from 538
What I don’t get is his wife as media spokesperson.
re: #141 darthstar
It’s large employers that can really fuck people…take WalMart - they employ 2.1 million people in the US…if they base their health care in Arkansas, and Arkansas has a waiver (for preventive care, birth control, etc.) they can provide insurance to people in every state with annual and lifetime limits.
Oh, they intend to get all of us sooner or later. There are no clear numbers of veterans in the USA, but the estimate is in the tens of millions. Throw in their dependants for tens of millions more.
Privatising the VA and selling it to the highest (or lowest) bidder has long been a goal of the GOP. Do that, and benefits promised for being drafted or enlisting are gone. Preëxisting conditions are the norm for virtually every disabled vet.
re: #140 ObserverArt
Unfortunately that is not what is happening. Democratic representatives from red states are starting to think she is a drain image wise. Even Tim Ryan from Ohio is saying they may have to take a look at someone else because of Pelosi being a negative image used against the Democrats.
When pushed, Ryan and others say they love Pelosi, her toughness, experience and fund raising, but they have to consider the future and the fact that she is used as a hammer.
I think they got all caught up with those nasty commercials in the Georgia election where Pelosi was used as the evil leader of the party spreading Hollywood and abortion all over this land.
It’s sad, as is all of the politics in this country.
The Democrats are worried about image while the entire image of the Republican party is Trump.
I would expect that Democrats will bend to this media narrative, as usual, and replace her with someone supposedly more palatable.
This person will immediately become the most liberal demon ever in another string of ads, because that’s the beauty of cult hatred - it can be turned against anyone and anything instantly, because of the complete control that cult media has over its thralls, and its ability to drive the entire media narrative as a result.
A lot of the ‘small businesses’ and entrepeneurs Trump professes to protect by ‘killing terrible Obamacare’ exist BECAUSE of Obamacare.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
their own firms, opening that store they dreamed about, or taking a year or two off to travel. That will be gone…again…and soon.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #143 Anymouse 🌹
Oh, they intend to get all of us sooner or later. There are no clear numbers of veterans in the USA, but the estimate is in the tens of millions. Throw in their dependants for tens of millions more.
Privatising the VA and selling it to the highest (or lowest) bidder has long been a goal of the GOP. Do that, and benefits promised for being drafted or enlisting are gone. Preëxisting conditions are the norm for virtually every disabled vet.
Libertarian footnote: If you’re over retirement age, you’re supposed to be dead. Retirement age for your profession will be adjusted by market forces.
re: #144 Renaissance_Man
I would expect that Democrats will bend to this media narrative, as usual, and replace her with someone supposedly more palatable.
This person will immediately become the most liberal demon ever in another string of ads, because that’s the beauty of cult hatred - it can be turned against anyone and anything instantly, because of the complete control that cult media has over its thralls, and its ability to drive the entire media narrative as a result.
I think it more likely that rather than her replacement as Minority Leader becoming the next bete noire, it’ll be another woman, maybe Elizabeth Warren, although Kamala Harris is making a run for it.
But, don’t you dare call them misogynist.
Employees cost money.
What incentive is there for any business to adjust their goals to include lower profits and a higher number of employees?
none it is an inherent conflict.
Besides offering basic business course in high school —so single mom who earns an income thru childcare or house cleaning could conceivably make a profit and possible hire someone some day.
Oh and Comprehensive Sex Ed and Cost-Free Birth Control,
Other than that, I don’t have an answer. It’s not that we don’t have enough jobs, it’s that we have too many people.
re: #140 ObserverArt
Unfortunately that is not what is happening. Democratic representatives from red states are starting to think she is a drain image wise. Even Tim Ryan from Ohio is saying they may have to take a look at someone else because of Pelosi being a negative image used against the Democrats.
1. Republicans will vilify whoever else steps into that position.
2. I doubt Tim Ryan would volunteer to step down if he became the new Republican poster child for all that is evil and liberal.
3. Bernie’s also being used to tar Democrats in these races. Quist’s closeness to him is probably one of the reasons he lost that election. Ossoff, despite being a dirty centrist was tied to Bernie and the Alexandria shooter in the closing days of the election.
re: #137 covfefe
Oh yeah. It was Bloomberg.
So Trump’s statement that the Obama Admin is, yeah you guessed it. Complete bullshit. In fact, Republicans refused to cooperate. They have known all along.
from my inbox:
DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION SUMMIT
These kids are impressive.
— HuffPost (@HuffPost) June 22, 2017
No, that does not make sense. https://t.co/Qze2cWdknL
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) June 22, 2017
re: #132 Anymouse 🌹
The wingnut that goes by the name of Baked Alaska (Tim Gionet) claims his bodyguard is in hospital after being shanked by a whole bunch (two) anti-white, anti-Trump Armenians. He is claiming a hate crime, which apparently the LAPD aren’t buying. He is apparently all over Twitter spinning up his tale of Armenian hate-crimers.
The LAPD arrested the two men and are holding them on charges of attempted murder.
SMOTI jumped on the story about “Armenian gang members” but deleted that part (not before a screen grab was taken, and its still in the URL).
Wonkette has all the details of the stabbing with appropriate shots from Twitter.
Expect the wingnutosphere to explode.
Armenians aren’t white? Who knew? Looks like the assailants are just garden variety hoodlums but it’s easy to see that Armenians would have a problem with genocide advocates and could have recognized this neo-nazi shit for what he is.
Presidential…
A statement by the President: pic.twitter.com/dEL5ohrs4M
— Real Press Sec. (@RealPressSecBot) June 22, 2017
re: #149 Weaselone
1. Republicans will vilify whoever else steps into that position.
2. I doubt Tim Ryan would volunteer to step down if he became the new Republican poster child for all that is evil and liberal.
3. Bernie’s also being used to tar Democrats in these races. Quist’s closeness to him is probably one of the reasons he lost that election. Ossoff, despite being a dirty centrist was tied to Bernie and the Alexandria shooter in the closing days of the election.
I’m guessing Ossoff’s loss has more to do with R+20 district that once had Newt Gingrich as a representative and less to do with Bernie Sanders. (They did tie Mr Ossoff to Nancy Pelosi in adverts there.)
The GOP knows that race was closer than it should have been. There are many Republican districts where the draw of either Quist or Ossoff would have won them the race with as big of swings they caused in their elections.
They might be out doing a victory dance, but the huge amount of money they threw at four House races to maintain safe seats by a couple thousand votes is not sustainable.
re: #116 Anymouse 🌹
I don’t know how accurate this is, but according to Mic, the Washington Post got a draft copy of the GOP wealthcare plan. The Post says it is to be released at 11AM.
More at the link. Most of it is similar to the DOA House bill, but there are differences according to Mic.
Is the Senate really going to allow company’s with more than 50 employees to not have to offer health insurance???
If so, that is going to throw a lot of people into having to find insurance and that is where pre-existing conditions are going to catch a lot of people out. In the past large groups had enough enrolled to cover people with preexisting conditions.
That is taking and throwing a metric shitload of people to the insurance wolves to take advantage of them in higher rates.
Why it’s almost like the are chumming the waters for the insurance sharks.
re: #151 Birth Control Works
from my inbox:
DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION SUMMITThese kids are impressive.
Hope they checked their tail-lights.
Trump wants to keep immigrants from getting welfare — which is already law https://t.co/FQ5M4sGUpD
— ggt (@geegeetee) June 22, 2017
re: #153 Shiplord Kirel
Armenians aren’t white? Who knew? Looks like the assailants are just garden variety hoodlums but it’s easy to see that Armenians would have a problem with genocide advocates and could have recognized this neo-nazi shit for what he is.
That’s probably why Mr. Hoft changed his article. As for the claim of the bodyguard, he claims he was “surprised” by the attack (after he got out of his car to confront them apparently).
A bodyguard who is surprised by a knife attack when he wades into it mouthing off (alcohol?) isn’t much of a bodyguard.
I expect a grift to pay his medical bills will appear on wingnut sites. I’d also bet he was too conservative to consider signing up for insurance under the ACA (but that is speculation on my part).
re: #160 Birth Control Works
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Since there is no fixed definition, “welfare” often means things like emergency room treatment to shitstick demagogues and their eager listeners.
Trump’s on a troll…
I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin’ Chuck stay!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017
You need to try better than this if you want to troll Nancy Pelosi. She out classes you, out guns you, and out ‘mans’ you. https://t.co/rERsbzM4ga
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #160 Birth Control Works
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SEE ANOTHER GREAT TRUMP SUCCESS YOU WON’T TALK ABOUT!!1!
How much you want to bet thy give them around ten years to remedy the problem.
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600 London high-rises are believed to be covered in similar material as doomed Grenfell Tower https://t.co/uQ9dccRT1P pic.twitter.com/OCBr5hSXLE
— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 22, 2017
re: #157 ObserverArt
Is the Senate really going to allow company’s with more than 50 employees to not have to offer health insurance???
If so, that is going to throw a lot of people into having to find insurance and that is where pre-existing conditions are going to catch a lot of people out. In the past large groups had enough enrolled to cover people with preexisting conditions.
That is taking and throwing a metric shitload of people to the insurance wolves to take advantage of them in higher rates.
Why it’s almost like the are chumming the waters for the insurance sharks.
Are companies of less than fifty employees required to have insurance?
Donald Trump rejects entire intelligence community in new defense of Russia https://t.co/pSaKnwaGdq
— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) June 22, 2017
re: #142 Birth Control Works
What I don’t get is his wife as media spokesperson.
If his wife is sticking by his side (and excusing the asshole) it must mean he is not quilty.
That is the sole reason…an image and a narrative.
re: #113 darthstar
Better, a golden painted one. We don’t have money for a true golden one.
re: #111 Anymouse 🌹
Though the GOP was headed in that direction anyway at the time, this is the problem Republicans faced with the Tea Party.
We don’t need a lefty version of the Tea Party.
The Tea Party succeeded in getting a Republican House and a Republican Senate. So — maybe we do need a lefty version if it can win. Being reasonable and offering real solutions doesn’t seem to work. We need a left Frank Luntz who can frame issues in bumper sticker slogans to persuade the average American. And we need a large group of persistent citizens to force the GOP out of office.
Two Suicide Bombers Blow Their Self Up In Foiled Attack ▷ Naija News https://t.co/QmjbYlDWs7 via @naijanews
— (((Mia Bloom))) (@MiaMBloom) June 22, 2017
The number of suicide bombers who accidentally detonate their vests while hugging their buddies goodbye is more than you think. https://t.co/8Zwsws6jDv
— CJ Werleman (@cjwerleman) June 22, 2017
Let’s face it. It’s not the smart ones who get picked for these kinds of attacks.
We all remember Trump’s talk of a rigged election during the campaign season. Now I’m thinking this was all to set the stage to obstruct Hillary at every turn if she were to actually win. “Russia helped her!”. Trump didn’t want or expect to win, and now it’s backfiring on him big time.
Trump concludes by conveying a message from God to the residents of Cedar Rapids: “I just want to let you know that God blesses you.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 22, 2017
Questions for @PressSec: Is the President hearing voices? Does god give him messages to pass on? Are you in these meetings with God too? https://t.co/bkNCLGsr6I
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #166 Anymouse 🌹
Are companies of less than fifty employees required to have insurance?
Must be a rule somewhere but I don’t know. A lot of smaller companies use human resource companies for their insurance, payroll and taxes. That creates bigger insurance pools for better rates.
I’m just amazed that it is even being considered that companies over 50 employees will not be required. That is huge. And that could cause a backlash on the Republicans unlike anything seen in many years.
They are taking away the EPA, they have taken unions, they have taken overtime regulations, they have fought minimum wages and they are thinking of eliminating insurance too it seems.
I guess big corporations will be coming back to America after all. We can haz sweatshops here now.
LMGTFY: obamacarefacts.com
“ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” is a requirement that all businesses with 50 or more full-time equivalent employees (FTE) provide health insurance to at least 95% of their full-time employees and dependents up to age 26, or pay a fee.”
Oh, hey, we had a tornado here today! That was… not something I expected in northern Germany.
JUST IN: Senate Republicans release the text of their health care bill. You can read the text here: https://t.co/y8xOghCDbu pic.twitter.com/qoiHSxO7sY
— HuffPost (@HuffPost) June 22, 2017
re: #163 darthstar
I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin’ Chuck stay!
— Donald J. Trump
Today is the day that DJT became president……
I’m working at home this morning. Just took a break and checked the teevee. Fox is of course working the “It’s Comey and Lynch who need to be investigated angle.” Convenient. Don’t have to talk about health care or Russia.
re: #179 Sir John Barron
Today is the day that DJT became president……
“And people of Cedar Rapids, I want to let you know that God loves you. Covfefe.”
Fortunately, this whole crisis is limited to a couple thousand self absorbed people on Twitter and Pelosi isn’t going anywhere.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #160 Birth Control Works
To crowd:
MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA
To nearby aide:
“Uh, I think I’m out of material. What do I say next?”
Aide: Just say something about ‘welfare’.
“Like what?”
Aide: Just make something up. They won’t know the difference.
re: #157 ObserverArt
Is the Senate really going to allow company’s with more than 50 employees to not have to offer health insurance???
McCain, Collins, Murkowski, and a few others will be “very concerned” about this provision, and then of course vote for the thing.
Trump made EIGHTEEN false claims in his campaign speech last night. Some were abject lies. Please read the list: https://t.co/ZgfmJdz7Bq pic.twitter.com/6ioYoVKk4x
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 22, 2017
Not only that, it was a lie he had used at least twice before. https://t.co/TRejbklNca
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 22, 2017
re: #187 FormerDirtDart
Donald is pretty new at this presidenting thing.
re: #188 Sir John Barron
Donald is pretty new at this presidenting thing.
But he’s a past master at this lying thing.
re: #174 ObserverArt
Must be a rule somewhere but I don’t know. A lot of smaller companies use human resource companies for their insurance, payroll and taxes. That creates bigger insurance pools for better rates.
I;m just amazed that it is even being considered that companies over 50 employees will not be required. That is huge. And that could cause a backlash on the Republicans unlike anything seen in many years.
They are taking away the EPA, they have taken unions, they have taken overtime regulations, they have fought minimum wages and they are thinking of eliminating insurance too it seems.
I guess big corporations will be coming back to America after all. We can haz sweatshops here now.
I rather glad I found another job in China now. At least I get some kind of minimal health coverage as a bennie.
re: #183 Sir John Barron
To crowd:
MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGATo nearby aide:
“Uh, I think I’m out of material. What do I say next?”
Aide: Just say something about ‘welfare’.
“Like what?”
Aide: Just make something up. They won’t know the difference.
re: #193 makeitstop
I just got this call. Points plus for being honest, I still didn’t pick up.
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China Mobile and my mobile phone maker, XiaoMi, provide a scam call warning service. Users report the numbers and whenever you get a call from a scammer, a warning pops up along with the incoming phone number.
re: #195 wheat-dogg
China Mobile and my mobile phone maker, XiaoMi, provide a scam call warning service. Users report the numbers and whenever you get a call from a scammer, a warning pops up along with the incoming phone number.
I did a reverse lookup and it was the infamous IRS ‘you are being audited!!’ call.
Had I known I would have called back and messed with them. Ah, well, next time maybe.
BTW, I finally saw Wonder Woman tonight. Well worth the time and money. I have to admit casting David Thewlis as Ares was a surprise. He looks rather un-godlike, but looks can be deceiving, eh? I mean, Zeus impersonated a swan at one point.
It was not a perfect movie, as there are some plot holes, but the overall message was, for once in a DC movie, positive and uplifting. It wasn’t the brooding self-absorption that’s the main plot point to the recent Batman and Superman flicks.
re: #197 wheat-dogg
BTW, I finally saw Wonder Woman tonight. Well worth the time and money. I have to admit casting David Thewlis as Ares was a surprise. He looks rather un-godlike, but looks can be deceiving, eh? I mean, Zeus impersonated a swan at one point.
It was not a perfect movie, as there are some plot holes, but the overall message was, for once in a DC movie, positive and uplifting. It wasn’t the brooding self-absorption that’s the main plot point to the recent Batman and Superman flicks.
After seeing him in Harry Potter, it’s a bit jolting to see Thewlis in Dragonheart (Dennis Quaid, Sean Connery) as the young bad guy.
re: #192 Birth Control Works
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That sounds just like my representative Adrian Smith (R-NE3) on NPR last week. The GOP is closer to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union than I suspected.
Who knew Joe McCarthy was projecting. I guess they’ve been at it a long time.
I had to duck out to start mailing some of my eclipse invitation cards (they are made up like wedding invitations - you are cordially invited to witness the union of the Sun and the Moon, &c). Foreign ones first (Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Brazil).
Eclipse stamps are hard to come by here - they sold out of every post office in the area in the first couple hours. I got the last sheet in the county seat yesterday.
Postage for a postcard is $1.15 overseas, so lots of additional stamps to make up the difference of a First Class eclipse stamp.
re: #199 Anymouse 🌹
Why isn’t Trump starving then?
re: #187 FormerDirtDart
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I heard last night his staff was aghast at some of those whopper statements. Apparently he came off the teleprompter and started to wing it.
The crowd loved it. They like getting bullshitted, they’ve watched Fox News for years. And Trumped loved it because he has been lying his entire life. A symbiotic relationship if ever there was one politically.
re: #198 Belafon
After seeing him in Harry Potter, it’s a bit jolting to see Thewlis in Dragonheart (Dennis Quaid, Sean Connery) as the young bad guy.
Brilliant casting choice, IMO, because most people (myself included) associate Thewlis with Remus Lupin. It’s been so long since I’ve seen Dragonheart I didn’t even make that association, though.
re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter
The Tea Party succeeded in getting a Republican House and a Republican Senate. So — maybe we do need a lefty version if it can win. Being reasonable and offering real solutions doesn’t seem to work. We need a left Frank Luntz who can frame issues in bumper sticker slogans to persuade the average American. And we need a large group of persistent citizens to force the GOP out of office.
Thank you - this is exactly what I’ve been saying. As for Pelosi, I’ll repeat that part here:
…have Democrats ever tried the classic GOP technique of doubling down instead of hem/haw timid-ass defensive plays? Since the haters are gonna hate anyway, what have Dems got to lose by saying something like, “You’re damn right we support Pelosi because even conservatives call her one of the most consequential speakers in history. She gets shit done, motherfucker. Shit that helps you and your family.”
Yes, ~62 million voters may be hopelessly brainwashed GOP cultists beyond all hope and reason, but it’s the voter suppression, stupid. Dems need a milkshake message that brings all the non-voters to the polls.
re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter
The Tea Party succeeded in getting a Republican House and a Republican Senate. So — maybe we do need a lefty version if it can win. Being reasonable and offering real solutions doesn’t seem to work. We need a left Frank Luntz who can frame issues in bumper sticker slogans to persuade the average American. And we need a large group of persistent citizens to force the GOP out of office.
Well, we’ve had George Lakoff telling us how to frame things for umpteen years, but nobody seems to listen to him.
re: #166 Anymouse 🌹
Are companies of less than fifty employees required to have insurance?
Not required by law, but in some industries its the only way to get the kind of employees they want.
The Obamacare exchanges for subsidized individual plans, are only available to people whose employers don’t offer insurance. If your employer has a crap plan, that’s what you’re stuck with.
re: #170 Hecuba’s daughter
The Tea Party succeeded in getting a Republican House and a Republican Senate. So — maybe we do need a lefty version if it can win. Being reasonable and offering real solutions doesn’t seem to work. We need a left Frank Luntz who can frame issues in bumper sticker slogans to persuade the average American. And we need a large group of persistent citizens to force the GOP out of office.
We also need a few billionaires willing to throw their money into things like buying a news station. //
I do think we need to model the tea party in two ways: 1) be passionate for your candidate in the primaries, and be passionate for the Democrat in the general, 2) run for every office you can.
Good morning WW!!!
Ernest Moniz is back https://t.co/ExeRPqdsPq pic.twitter.com/YJMNv5YWcr
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) June 22, 2017
I never left. https://t.co/JK76GiKaa9
— Ernest Moniz (@ErnestMoniz) June 22, 2017
re: #204 Interesting Times (rest cut):
Yes, ~62 million voters may be hopelessly brainwashed GOP cultists beyond all hope and reason, but it’s the voter suppression, stupid. Dems need a milkshake message that brings all the non-voters to the polls.
I’m guessing that if this keeps up, those sixty-two million voters will be a lower number next time around (assuming Mr. Trump makes it that long). The combination of motivated Democrats, so-called independents, apathists, and depressed Republicans might do it.
The Trump voters who were tepid on the guy and only pulled the lever because (R) and not because what he stood for (graft) may be significantly less motivated to vote. (Consider the lowered turnout for GA6’s GOP for example). The GOP’s number-crunchers have to know this as well.
While in my town it was obvious to everyone who I supported (Sanders, then Clinton from my yard signs, plus I’m a Democrat), my wife was busy sewing doubt in this election on her own (I didn’t put her up to it). She was busy selling Gary Johnson to wavering Republicans (as she can do the Libertarian schtick since she used to be an LP member).
While that didn’t flip the town from GOP to Libertarians, the LP got a whole lot more votes here than they might have expected, all at the expense of the GOP. (I still want to know who the two Green Party voters were - I know everyone here and I can’t figure that one out.)
I once paddled a Zodiac across the Santa Rosa Sound late one evening in early Dec. ‘92, along with a couple hundred other gents toting automatic weapons…
Eyewitness video captures the moment a waterspout tore through the Santa Rosa Sound in Pensacola, Florida https://t.co/yjMvcBV5CY pic.twitter.com/S47UVupAVI
— CNN (@CNN) June 22, 2017
re: #210 Anymouse 🌹
(rest cut):
…
(I still want to know who the two Green Party voters were - I know everyone here and I can’t figure that one out.)
The Ruskies? (insert ominous music here)
Newt Gingrich acknowledges Donald Trump lied about tapes to try to intimidate James Comey before Senate testimony. https://t.co/rrZNjwQwTP pic.twitter.com/x2kVk2ULOH
— Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) June 22, 2017
Former GOP Speaker & close Trump ally says Trump tried to intimidate a witness before a Congressional hearing —> https://t.co/tmtolWLMGY
— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) June 22, 2017
re: #208 Belafon
We also need a few billionaires willing to throw their money into things like buying a news station. //
I still haven’t forgiven, and may never forgive, Ted Turner for selling CNN to Time Warner.
re: #213 calochortus
The Ruskies? (insert ominous music here)
While I have questions about Dr. Jill Stein’s little vacay to Russia for the same event as Michael Flynn, I somehow don’t think my mighty metroplex is on Russia’s political radar. (Their military radar, sure: We have way more ICBMs around here than people.)
re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth
Newt Gingrich acknowledges Donald Trump lied about tapes to try to intimidate James Comey before Senate testimony. apnews.com pic.twitter.com
— Justin Hendrix
Fox News: James Comey is really the one who should be under investigation
This is the part that repeals essential health benefits which include mental health, hospitalization, and maternity. pic.twitter.com/2rOhoAQwre
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) June 22, 2017
re: #210 Anymouse 🌹
(I still want to know who the two Green Party voters were - I know everyone here and I can’t figure that one out.)
Does anybody have kids away at college who voted absentee?
re: #217 Sir John Barron
Fox News: James Comey is really the one who should be under investigation
What did he know about Hillary Clinton’s E-mail server and when did he know it?
re: #208 Belafon
We also need a few billionaires willing to throw their money into things like buying a news station. //
I do think we need to model the tea party in two ways: 1) be passionate for your candidate in the primaries, and be passionate for the Democrat in the general, 2) run for every office you can.
Perhaps it was because of the Tea Party challengers, but the GOP establishment definitely seemed to move towards the Tea Party positions. I wonder if the Democratic establishment would move toward the positions of a progressive movement similar to the Tea Party? And relatedly, in our system, with two national major national parties, how would the electorate react to even more polarization? Keep in mind, while we had about 127.8m people vote in the general election, only about 60m voted in the primaries (about 30m in the Democratic primaries and 29.5m in the GOP primaries).
re: #205 BeachDem
Well, we’ve had George Lakoff telling us how to frame things for umpteen years, but nobody seems to listen to him.
Yes. I once worked on a project with others to use his framing in the 2012 election. Unfortunately, no one in the Dem establishment seemed interested and…
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So…not all BoBers are ratfuckers. Some of them look at the Dem establishment’s ineptitude at messaging, GOTV, etc. and think it’s a *deliberate* ploy to lose elections, kayfabe-style. Sadly, that old cliche “perception is reality” applies tenfold to US politics.
re: #220 sagehen
Does anybody have kids away at college who voted absentee?
There are a few away at college. That could be. For the folk here in town I imagine they would eat a railcar load of coal before voting for Stein.
re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth
Former GOP Speaker & close Trump ally says Trump tried to intimidate a witness before a Congressional hearing —>
Newt Gingrich acknowledges Donald Trump lied about tapes to try to intimidate James Comey before Senate testimony. https://t.co/rrZNjwQwTP pic.twitter.com/x2kVk2ULOH
— Justin Hendrix (@justinhendrix) June 22, 2017
— Jesse Ferguson
Yeah but if there was no collusion you must acquit.
re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth
Annnd that is why I am glad that all of my medications are generic and don’t require blood testing.
re: #205 BeachDem
Well, we’ve had George Lakoff telling us how to frame things for umpteen years, but nobody seems to listen to him.
Framing is my new best friend in debates. I’m trying to step back from whomever I’m debating with and take a moment to see the bigger issue. So far I think it’s working well-though it can be hard to keep the other person on point when they use the “well, what about THIS????” method of debate.
Sometimes I even throw in a little something to show where we’re really very much alike even though we disagree on this particular issue.
I don’t buy this for a second.
Per solid source: at least 3 GOP sens (perhaps more) plan to announce public opposition to McConnell health bill later today. Developing
— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) June 22, 2017
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
I don’t buy this for a second.
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Meh. Kayfabe most likely. One of them will cave and allow “Handmaid’s Tale is an instruction manual, yo” Pence to break the tie.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
I am sure they are just “concerned” or “troubled” by the health care bill.
re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So Newt’s okay with POTUS intimidating witnesses. Yeah that sounds great Newt.
re: #223 Interesting Times
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re: #231 HappyWarrior
So Newt’s okay with POTUS intimidating witnesses. Yeah that sounds great Newt.
IOKIYAR
Like it or not pissed off voters vote. The Dems would be wise to cultivate and harness this phenomenon.
re: #227 calochortus
Framing is my new best friend in debates. I’m trying to step back from whomever I’m debating with and take a moment to see the bigger issue. So far I think it’s working well-though it can be hard to keep the other person on point when they use the “well, what about THIS????” method of debate.
Sometimes I even throw in a little something to show where we’re really very much alike even though we disagree on this particular issue.
My favorite framing example:
is 48% of people “almost half” or “not even half” the population?
re: #221 Anymouse 🌹
What did he know about Hillary Clinton’s E-mail server and when did he know it?
Sekelow (sp?) was on Hannity saying Comey’s “leak” of his own memos was illegal; that got picked up by Fox News as serious journalism this morning. Right after that they spent 30 minutes on Trey Gowdy’s blurt that Loretta Lynch must be investigated for colluding with Comey to call the meeting with Clinton a “matter.” And of course, yesterday it was rumored that Chuck Grassley is starting to reopen investigations into Hillary. I’d say there’s the old well-oiled GOP bullshit machine in operation.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
I don’t buy this for a second.
OK well we’ll believe this very solid source when the public opposition is publicly expressed in public.
re: #223 Interesting Times
re: #223 Interesting Times
Yes. I once worked on a project with others to use his framing in the 2012 election. Unfortunately, no one in the Dem establishment seemed interested and…
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So…not all BoBers are ratfuckers. Some of them look at the Dem establishment’s ineptitude at messaging, GOTV, etc. and think it’s a *deliberate* ploy to lose elections, kayfabe-style. Sadly, that old cliche “perception is reality” applies tenfold to US politics.
I have “Don’t Think of an Elephant” on my tablet and bring up passages at meetings sometimes.
His post-election analysis should be required reading for Democrats.
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re: #227 calochortus
Framing is my new best friend in debates. I’m trying to step back from whomever I’m debating with and take a moment to see the bigger issue. So far I think it’s working well-though it can be hard to keep the other person on point when they use the “well, what about THIS????” method of debate.
Sometimes I even throw in a little something to show where we’re really very much alike even though we disagree on this particular issue.
Ah, whataboutism. There are a number of ways to address that:
a) don’t let them derail you. Drag them back to the original argument: That has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
b) agree to discuss that at a later time, then drag them back to the original issue.
c) combine the two if they are similar and continue with the same line of argument
d) point out that there are many different issues surrounding a candidate or issues and they all require consideration to make an informed choice (then go back to the original issue).
In political arguments I have, the point for me is not to “win.” I can’t reason someone out of a position they reasoned themselves into. I can only give them information they didn’t have before and ask them to consider it. Not every discussion will be immediately fruitful, but might be days or weeks or months later.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
Well, there’s the story of Ron Johnson (R-WI) saying on CNN that he won’t vote for the bill without time to review it and get public comment. So, that’s likely one. Pencil in Collins and some combination of Murkowski, Sullivan, and Capito (Alaska and West Virginia have very high Medicaid enrollment from what I understand). Plus the public comments from people like Hatch and McCain about being annoyed they haven’t seen anything in the bill. And the fact that Trump’s approval rating is approaching that of most STDs.
McConnell is usually smarter than this, but maybe the play really is to put it up for a vote and see it not pass; then he and the hardliners can say how they fought the good fight, but its the law of the land and like Medicare or Social Security, we’re just going to have to find a way to make it “more market oriented” rather than get rid of it. Or some other bullshit, since, after all, it was their own damn proposal in 1994.
re: #236 Barefoot Grin
Sekelow (sp?) was on Hannity saying Comey’s “leak” of his own memos was illegal; that got picked up by Fox News as serious journalism this morning. Right after that they spent 30 minutes on Trey Gowdy’s blurt that Loretta Lynch must be investigated for colluding with Comey to call the meeting with Clinton a “matter.” And of course, yesterday it was rumored that Chuck Grassley is starting to reopen investigations into Hillary. I’d say there’s the old well-oiled GOP bullshit machine in operation.
At some point you have to wonder why Fox News doesn’t melt down in flames from the effect of all the lies it spews.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
I don’t buy this for a second.
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They’ll announce publicly that they can’t support the bill in its current form unless it does more for x, y, or z. Some fig leaf amendment will be attached to the bill. “My concerns have been addressed—I’ll vote for it.”
re: #239 Anymouse 🌹
Yup. I’ve had years of training on that debating my favorite nephew. He wanders here and there in his arguments. Sometimes I bring him back to the point, sometimes not.
It also helps to point out that it is possible to change my mind on things when I’m provided with good evidence.
re: #240 KGxvi
Well, there’s the story of Ron Johnson (R-WI) saying on CNN that he won’t vote for the bill without time to review it and get public comment.
This condition for Johnson can be easily met now that the bill’s language has been released. The ‘public comment’ condition is a pretty wide open door, too. Since the public comments he’s likely to take the most seriously will be those of his and his party’s base. Of course he did just get re-elected, so he could buck the party’s leadership. But I doubt he will.
re: #240 KGxvi
Well, there’s the story of Ron Johnson (R-WI) saying on CNN that he won’t vote for the bill without time to review it and get public comment. So, that’s likely one. Pencil in Collins and some combination of Murkowski, Sullivan, and Capito (Alaska and West Virginia have very high Medicaid enrollment from what I understand). Plus the public comments from people like Hatch and McCain about being annoyed they haven’t seen anything in the bill. And the fact that Trump’s approval rating is approaching that of most STDs.
McConnell is usually smarter than this, but maybe the play really is to put it up for a vote and see it not pass; then he and the hardliners can say how they fought the good fight, but its the law of the land and like Medicare or Social Security, we’re just going to have to find a way to make it “more market oriented” rather than get rid of it. Or some other bullshit, since, after all, it was their own damn proposal in 1994.
Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy (M.D.) has been pretty vocal about the bill’s shortcomings, too. We’ll see.
re: #238 BeachDem
I think one of the lesser-known but best people to read right now is Kathleen Geier - she was Bernie supporter but NOT a BoBer (voted for HRC to stop trump). I find she has great ideas for taking the popular Bernie positions and, rather than tying them to him personality-cult style, merging them with existing Democratic positions:
Voting Off the Apprentice President
Of course, impeachment efforts face a similar hurdle, and GOP resistance will, if anything, be even more fierce. But if the Democrats take back the House in 2018, it’s a new ball game. And even if they don’t, a drive to impeach Trump could produce significant political benefits for the left.
…
The failure to impeach, on the other hand, would come with a serious political cost: it would normalize Trumpian corruption and contempt for democracy.
Inequality in Black and White: The rigged economics of race in America
The economic trends that have battered Americans have been exceptionally hard on African Americans, making them perhaps the truest face of economic inequality. Much of the progress in the workplace and in schools that African Americans have made since the 1964 Civil Rights Act has now ground to a halt, or worse.
Democrats’ Waffling on Abortion Rights Isn’t Just Wrong, It’s a Huge Political Mistake
Sanders’ and the Democrats’ shakiness on women’s reproductive freedom is a betrayal of progressive values, but it’s not just that. If Democrats wish to grow the party, going wobbly on its support of reproductive justice is counterproductive and remarkably short-sighted. Such a stance is wrong as a matter of principle and wrong as a matter of political pragmatism.
re: #244 Sir John Barron
This condition for Johnson can be easily met now that the bill’s language has been released. The ‘public comment’ condition is a pretty wide open door, too. Since the public comments he’s likely to take the most seriously will be those of his and his party’s base. Of course he did just get re-elected, so he could buck the party’s leadership. But I doubt he will.
McCain was just re-elected, too, so he could give his party and DJT a thumb in the eye. But I wouldn’t count on it.
re: #240 KGxvi
If you are hoping for any “moderate” or “compassionate” Republican voting no… Nope. Chirping only. All beak, no backbone. They will express concern with their mouth and vote in lockstep to gut America. To applause.
John McCain tells me no qualms voting next wk on health bill: ‘We know the issues. We know them well. We’ve been discussing them for years’
— Laura Litvan (@LauraLitvan) June 22, 2017
Protesters gather outside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s office after health care bill rollout https://t.co/pzyCERODLe pic.twitter.com/luVFcQd4dG
— CNN (@CNN) June 22, 2017
re: #225 Sir John Barron
Yeah but if there was no collusion you must acquit.
There was just yesterday an op-ed in the NYT by David Brooks basically claiming this. I sent in the following letter:
Dear NYT —
Re the David Brooks column of 6/20:
When you purposefully hinder an investigation into a crime, you become a party to the crime. This is true whether or not there is explicit “collusion”. Ask Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s friends.
Ok, I guess it’s finally time to unplug the cable. I kept it for Premier League soccer, but that’s over.
Hugh Hewitt to Host Show on MSNBC https://t.co/Y51yEqiAvt
— Hadas Gold (@Hadas_Gold) June 22, 2017
New NBC/WSJ poll on House GOP health-care bill:
Good idea: 16%
Bad idea: 48%
Strongly good idea: 10%
Strongly bad idea: 41% pic.twitter.com/DOhoZUrvkF— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) June 22, 2017
remember: this is party that refused to hold vote for gun bill that had 90% public support.
GOP simply does not care https://t.co/qjfDHrscJm— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) June 22, 2017
Local news …
After the coalition of ranchers, farmers, conservationists, hunters, &c beat back the Keystone XL Pipeline in this state, they were at it again, over a proposed high-voltage transmission line that would cut right across the Sandhills.
(Goes to the Lexington, Nebr. Clipper-Herald)
Hundreds of protesters were in Thedford (a tiny town in the Sandhills where I once took my wife out to dinner for her birthday at a tractor repair shop but that’s another story) to oppose Nebraska Public Power District’s plan to string a transmission line across the entire length of the Nebraska Sandhills.
The residents’ concerns were the fragile environment, destruction of what little arable land there is here, certain endangered species: Sandhill cranes, whooping cranes, and endangered burying beetles (they make what arable land we have here arable). NPPD’s concern was increased capacity for windfarm energy to sell out-of-state, which flew like a lead balloon in Thedford.
The apparent goal is to put in the transmission line, then put in the windfarms along the Sandhills, construct hundreds of miles of roads and tearing up fragile habitat and the Valentine National Wildlife Refuge.
(It’s things like this, the Keystone XL fight followed by the transmission line fight which has been going on for a number of years which will depress or flip GOP voters here.) NPPD’s statement for this was “our profits are more important than your farms or ranches.” That sort of thing doesn’t play well here.
re: #241 Sir John Barron
At some point you have to wonder why Fox News doesn’t melt down in flames from the effect of all the lies it spews.
Proof there isn’t a god, or they would have been hit by multiple lightning strikes an hour.
Looks like we’re well on our way to the triple digit temperatures that were predicted so I’m going to go take care of a few things before I melt into a little puddle somewhere. (Yes, we have A/C. Yes, we will use it, but we are a.) cheap, and b.) being asked to go easy on electricity use, so it will still be warm in the house.)
BBL
re: #246 Interesting Times
I think one of the lesser-known but best people to read right now is Kathleen Geier - she was Bernie supporter but NOT a BoBer (voted for HRC to stop trump). I find she has great ideas for taking the popular Bernie positions and, rather than tying them to him personality-cult style, merging them with existing Democratic positions:
Voting Off the Apprentice President
Inequality in Black and White: The rigged economics of race in America
Democrats’ Waffling on Abortion Rights Isn’t Just Wrong, It’s a Huge Political Mistake
Item by item:
I want Trump gone and in disgrace, but only after Pence has been jettisoned.
What is going to destroy more black lives that matter, the Ferguson PD or cutting 20 million people from Medicaid?
Scream for reproductive rights/sex ed. Shut up about gun control.
re: #251 Barefoot Grin
I used to keep cable for the news and sports. Unfortunately, cable news has been crap for a long time now. I cut the cord 5-6 years ago. I just grabbed an over the air antenna for my occasional football game fix, and then I just use streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime. If there’s a sports game that I really want to watch, I’ll just go to a bar.
re: #251 Barefoot Grin
Comcast has quite a vested interest in keeping Trump and various Republicans in power.
In no sense should we consider MSNBC a crusade for truth. You might think one or two individuals are working hard had investigative journalism - Maddow, for example - but MSNBC is part of the same company that gave Trump millions of dollars of the years so that Trump could preen his own ego and build his own brand.
re: #255 calochortus
Looks like we’re well on our way to the triple digit temperatures that were predicted so I’m going to go take care of a few things before I melt into a little puddle somewhere. (Yes, we have A/C. Yes, we will use it, but we are a.) cheap, and b.) being asked to go easy on electricity use, so it will still be warm in the house.)
BBL
But it’s a dry heat, right?
re: #251 Barefoot Grin
Ok, I guess it’s finally time to unplug the cable. I kept it for Premier League soccer, but that’s over.
The only way to end this is to keep giving views to Maddow and O’Donnell and turn it off otherwise. To do anything less will drive MSNBC further right. Watching those shows will force the station to conclude that the guy who’s in charge of programming is an idiot.
re: #258 freetoken
Comcast has quite a vested interest in keeping Trump and various Republicans in power.
In no sense should we consider MSNBC a crusade for truth. You might think one or two individuals are working hard had investigative journalism - Maddow, for example - but MSNBC is part of the same company that gave Trump millions of dollars of the years so that Trump could preen his own ego and build his own brand.
Comcast is basically the only player in our market (Fairpoint is a small player, but is almost as loathed by its users as Comcast). Another reason to cut as much as I can.
re: #255 calochortus
Looks like we’re well on our way to the triple digit temperatures that were predicted so I’m going to go take care of a few things before I melt into a little puddle somewhere. (Yes, we have A/C. Yes, we will use it, but we are a.) cheap, and b.) being asked to go easy on electricity use, so it will still be warm in the house.)
BBL
It’s 77 F here in Mythical Mountain Unicorn Time Zone at the moment … will get to the mid 80’s.
I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 7, 2015
re: #249 FormerDirtDart
George Soros paid goons!!!!1
Tropical Storm Cindy is now Tropical Depression Cindy, well inland along the Texas-Louisiana border. Its track has been adjusted somewhat, carrying it into south-central Kentucky as a tropical depression by evening Friday.
re: #251 Barefoot Grin
Hugh Hewitt to Host Show on MSNBC adweek.com
— Hadas Gold
Are you kidding me? Are they out of wingnut slots at Faux?
It has been increasingly noticed that “television” is not what is once was.
By that we mean as a consumable.
Young people are not watching much network programming, especially news. If they do watch a “TV” program it will be very narrowly picked from particular interests and scattered all around the cable universe. And young people will want to watch on demand more so than be forced to tune in at a particular time.
VH1 is doing pretty well with the youth demographic. On any given night there will be more young people watching a single VH1 program than all of Fox News networks put together.
MSNBC is probably under pressure to appeal more to the 50+ demo to compete with Fox.
We are now long, long past the time when uncle Walter could command the national interest for a half hour at night.
re: #262 Barefoot Grin
Comcast is basically the only player in our market (Fairpoint is a small player, but is almost as loathed by its users as Comcast). Another reason to cut as much as I can.
I guess we’re fortunate we never had a cable company here then. No cable company to loathe.
re: #269 freetoken
It has been increasingly noticed that “television” is not what is once was.
By that we mean as a consumable.
Young people are not watching much network programming, especially news. If they do watch a “TV” program it will be very narrowly picked from particular interests and scattered all around the cable universe. And young people will want to watch on demand more so than be forced to tune in at a particular time.
VH1 is doing pretty well with the youth demographic. On any given night there will be more young people watching a single VH1 program than all of Fox News networks put together.
MSNBC is probably under pressure to appeal more to the 50+ demo to compete with Fox.
We are now long, long past the time when uncle Walter could command the national interest for a half hour at night.
Our Comcast is carrying a Vice newsmagazine via HBO. It’s a blog spinoff, seems to have some depth, integrity, and age-spectrum appeal.
re: #246 Interesting Times
I think one of the lesser-known but best people to read right now is Kathleen Geier - she was Bernie supporter but NOT a BoBer (voted for HRC to stop trump). I find she has great ideas for taking the popular Bernie positions and, rather than tying them to him personality-cult style, merging them with existing Democratic positions:
Voting Off the Apprentice President
Inequality in Black and White: The rigged economics of race in America
Democrats’ Waffling on Abortion Rights Isn’t Just Wrong, It’s a Huge Political Mistake
Reading them all now. Thanks.
re: #261 Belafon
The only way to end this is to keep giving views to Maddow and O’Donnell and turn it off otherwise. To do anything less will drive MSNBC further right. Watching those shows will force the station to conclude that the guy who’s in charge of programming is an idiot.
It would seem to me the huge segment of the populace that wants for actual news and not right-wing propaganda would be a market to compete for. Putting people like Megyn Kelly and Hugh Hewitt on are competing for the shrinking demographic FOX has. I’m not much of a businessperson but that just doesn’t seem like a sensible business strategy to me.
re: #228 FormerDirtDart
I don’t buy this for a second.
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They will do what the House did - in few days, they will throw a few billions dollars at it and pretend it’s fixed.
re: #271 Decatur Deb
Our Comcast is carrying a Vice newsmagazine via HBO. It’s a blog spinoff, seems to have some depth, integrity, and age-spectrum appeal.
The for-pay services are more quality oriented, I think, versus those which are completely advertiser sponsored.
Which raises a quandary about the future: will quality news only be available to those who can afford it?
re: #272 BeachDem
Reading them all now. Thanks.
One of the reasons why Perriello appealed to me ehre in VA, BD was that he took a lot of the populism that Sanders espouses but also added committment to immigrants, racial minorities, women, and LGBT people whereas Bernie would tell those groups that they have to to stop playing identity politics. He lost unfortunately in teh end but I think it’s the right idea.
A U.S. Air Force drone has crashed in a remote area near Mount Whitney in California; no injuries reported: https://t.co/PNSvlURefH pic.twitter.com/EfbSAp8NgR
— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 22, 2017
To give all an idea of what crashed.
It’s not some souped-up model airplane.
SCOTUS holds that naturalized citizen may not lose citizenship based on false statements that were immaterial to gaining citizenship
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 22, 2017
Here is a link to the court’s opinion in Maslenjak v. United States: https://t.co/gNS66YmA5u
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 22, 2017
re: #269 freetoken
It has been increasingly noticed that “television” is not what is once was.
By that we mean as a consumable.
Young people are not watching much network programming, especially news. If they do watch a “TV” program it will be very narrowly picked from particular interests and scattered all around the cable universe. And young people will want to watch on demand more so than be forced to tune in at a particular time.
VH1 is doing pretty well with the youth demographic. On any given night there will be more young people watching a single VH1 program than all of Fox News networks put together.
MSNBC is probably under pressure to appeal more to the 50+ demo to compete with Fox.
We are now long, long past the time when uncle Walter could command the national interest for a half hour at night.
We’ve said the same thing about newspapers, and yet, it’s been the fact that people started subscribing to the Washington Post that has allowed them to keep digging.
re: #276 Prece
Love reading this.I blog at mymobilespecs.com
This newbie’s link goes to someplace that is blocked as malware by our firewall.
“Obama set back race relations” just sounds better than “Obama really upset all the racists.” https://t.co/HDZzffDE1a
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) June 21, 2017
re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth
That is a huge win.
re: #281 The Vicious Babushka
This newbie’s link goes to someplace that is blocked as malware by our firewall.
Nigeria
re: #272 BeachDem
Reading them all now. Thanks.
From the last article:
… but also supported the anti-choice Omaha mayoral candidate Heath Mello (who lost).
And again misrepresenting Heath Mello’s actual position. Uber leftie sites like In These Times did a fantastic job depressing Omaha’s Democratic vote though, while Scott Walker was in Omaha plumping for Jean Stothert (who wants Planned Parenthood out of Omaha). The Omaha mayor’s office is a stepping stone to the Governor’s office.
Was Mello the ideal candidate? No. Stothert’s a disaster, and Mello caught more crap from the left than he did from the right, in a city that went for Obama in 2008 (and thus clocked an Electoral vote for the Dems).
I’ve been over Mello’s actual position and legislation here versus what some on the left claimed his legislation was so I won’t go over that again.
re: #273 Anymouse 🌹
It would seem to me the huge segment of the populace that wants for actual news and not right-wing propaganda would be a market to compete for. Putting people like Megyn Kelly and Hugh Hewitt on are competing for the shrinking demographic FOX has. I’m not much of a businessperson but that just doesn’t seem like a sensible business strategy to me.
The problem is, television isn’t really a great medium for communicating the news. Not in any serious, in depth way. If you want actual news, you need to go with print (be it digital or dead tree), because that’s where actual explanations of events and analysis of said events actually happens. Television (and radio, for that matter) isn’t going to give you a measured discussion of events - at least not for any sustained period of time.
I’ll also add that podcasts seem to be in a better position than television or radio because they aren’t confined by format (length, advertising requirements, bothsiderism).
re: #251 Barefoot Grin
Ok, I guess it’s finally time to unplug the cable. I kept it for Premier League soccer, but that’s over.
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re: #288 BeachDem
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At least Schmidt and Wallace are not afraid to bash Herr Trump and the GOP. The rest of sycophants.
Lather.Rinse.Repeat
Fun fact:@realDonaldTrump changed party affiliation 5x since 1987. He has no true stances on anything, clearly his only stance is himself pic.twitter.com/DLTJj4SN2K
— TheUnsilentMAJORITY (@The_UnSilent_) June 22, 2017
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#MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/Hb5mYY6yXs
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) June 22, 2017
re: #287 KGxvi
The problem is, television isn’t really a great medium for communicating the news. Not in any serious, in depth way. If you want actual news, you need to go with print (be it digital or dead tree), because that’s where actual explanations of events and analysis of said events actually happens. Television (and radio, for that matter) isn’t going to give you a measured discussion of events - at least not for any sustained period of time.
I’ll also add that podcasts seem to be in a better position than television or radio because they aren’t confined by format (length, advertising requirements, bothsiderism).
John Oliver with comedy, Rachel Maddow with analysis, &c seem to do okay. There’s a reason Dr. Maddow is on top of cable programming right now: There is a crowd that wants in-depth analysis of news items. She provides it.
When John Oliver did his long segment on Net Neutrality, the FCC was flooded with tens of millions of comments, forcing the FCC to table the idea of getting rid of it. They do have impact. MSNBC needs more people like Maddow and fewer like Kelly.
re: #293 Dr. Matt
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On a side note, an interesting sixty-one star flag. Does that include Mexico’s states?
Accidental humor in the Twitter RT history pic.twitter.com/JQw5eHQ5sn
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
Devin Nunes now claiming the media made up his statement he recused himself from the Russia investigation.
A handful of journalists were left scratching their heads Monday after Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., claimed he never recused himself from the House’s investigation of Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 election.
“I never recused myself,” the House Intelligence Committee chairman reportedly said in an interview with KMJ’s Ray Appleton. “This was essentially made up by the media.”
Nunes announced on April 6 that he’d step away from the House’s investigation of the Russia issue, meaning a fair number of reporters were justifiably confused by his interview remarks.
However, the line that the congressman never technically recused himself isn’t new.
(more at the Examiner with comparisons of what he said then and what he’s saying now)
re: #295 Anymouse 🌹
On a side note, an interesting sixty-one star flag. Does that include Mexico’s states?
Ten Canadian provinces; Puerto Rico.
re: #295 Anymouse 🌹
On a side note, an interesting sixty-one star flag. Does that include Mexico’s states?
Ha. Good eye. I stole it from FB. Not sure who created it.
re: #294 Anymouse 🌹
John Oliver with comedy, Rachel Maddow with analysis, &c seem to do okay. There’s a reason Dr. Maddow is on top of cable programming right now: There is a crowd that wants in-depth analysis of news items. She provides it.
When John Oliver did his long segment on Net Neutrality, the FCC was flooded with tens of millions of comments, forcing the FCC to table the idea of getting rid of it. They do have impact. MSNBC needs more people like Maddow and fewer like Kelly.
I didn’t mean to imply that it was impossible. But I think Oliver and Maddow are outliers to a large extent. Oliver’s format is akin to a podcast - he rarely has guests and almost always does a deep dive on a single issue. I haven’t watched much of Maddow lately, but when I did watch/listen, she always seemed to be very different than anything else on cable news. It is possible, but I’m not sure it’s likely to happen.
Let us hope they don’t switch.
Chuck Todd: “At Least” Three GOP Senators Are Against GOP Health Care Bill https://t.co/dY9bYoSyqS pic.twitter.com/VSGksgN3Yc
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) June 22, 2017
Republicans are fucking morons. Some goddamn shithead shoots at them, and they react by trying to make it even easier to get guns. Then they start pushing this thing that’ll kill their constituents, and they don’t even stop to think that they’ll have to wear brown pants to every campaign event, public appearance, and town hall meeting for the rest of their careers?
re: #301 Dr. Matt
Let us hope they don’t switch.
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They’re against this version of the bill, which means the leadership will amend items into the bill so that at least one of them will suddenly be less “troubled” by it and decide to vote for it. Sorry, but anybody who buys this kabuki theater after 30+ years of Republican politics needs to have their head checked.
Drawn to the apocalypse, from beyond the dim we rise. pic.twitter.com/HSWO7bUKi1
— Black Metal Cats (@evilbmcats) June 22, 2017
Coal-mining magnate Robert Murray sues John Oliver for “character assassination” after Oliver did a segment on coal mine safety. He predicted Murray would sue him.
The suit, filed on June 21 in the circuit court of Marshall County, West Virginia, holds that Oliver and his team “executed a meticulously planned attempt to assassinate the character of and reputation of Mr. Robert E. Murray and his companies” by airing an episode that ripped into him. Murray runs the country’s largest privately owned coal company, Murray Energy Corporation.
“They did this to a man who needs a lung transplant, a man who does not expect to live to see the end of this case,” reads the complaint, which also lists Murray’s companies as plaintiffs.
The lawsuit isn’t a surprise to Oliver. In fact, the British comic said on the episode of his show that aired on June 18 that he expected it, noting that Murray has sued several other media outlets in the past (including, in May, the New York Times). In the episode, Oliver criticized Murray’s business practices, saying he doesn’t do enough to protect his miners’ safety. Oliver also noted that his team contacted Murray’s company before the episode aired, and that the company sent a cease-and-desist letter—the first time that had ever happened to his show.
(more at Daily Beast)
NV Sen. Heller on health care: “At first glance, I have serious concerns about the bill’s impact on the Nevadans who depend on Medicaid.”
— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) June 22, 2017
And that’s why you should vote against it, @SenDeanHeller https://t.co/VW6WxvpLIJ
— ACLU National (@ACLU) June 22, 2017
re: #305 Anymouse 🌹
Coal-mining magnate Robert Murray sues John Oliver for “character assassination” after Oliver did a segment on coal mine safety. He predicted Murray would sue him.
(more at Daily Beast)
I watched the episode the other day. Murray is at least a quasi-public person with respect to the coal industry (he’s appeared on television multiple times to speak about issues); which means he’s going to have to reach the standard of actual malice to win. That means he has to prove that Oliver knew (or should have known) something he said was false and still went ahead with reckless disregard for the truth. There was nothing I saw that gets to that level. Almost everything Oliver said was backed up by actual public statements by Murray.
re: #305 Anymouse 🌹
Coal-mining magnate Robert Murray sues John Oliver for “character assassination” after Oliver did a segment on coal mine safety. He predicted Murray would sue him.
(more at Daily Beast)
As in any libel/slander suit, truth is a defense.
And anybody who’s holding out the hope that efforts to win over “moderates” will piss off conservatives, bear this in mind: This is a separate Senate bill and not the Senate voting on the House bill, which means a conference committee to reconcile the bills. Whatever conservatives lose in the Senate bill, they expect to win back in negotiations with their even more loony House counterparts. So Sen. Yertle’s gonna promise all sorts of things to get this bill passed, knowing that guys like Cruz and Rand are expecting to win big when it comes time to hammer out a unified bill.
re: #307 KGxvi
I watched the episode the other day. Murray is at least a quasi-public person with respect to the coal industry (he’s appeared on television multiple times to speak about issues); which means he’s going to have to reach the standard of actual malice to win. That means he has to prove that Oliver knew (or should have known) something he said was false and still went ahead with reckless disregard for the truth. There was nothing I saw that gets to that level. Almost everything Oliver said was backed up by actual public statements by Murray.
I guess it’s too much to hope for a West Virginia court to slap Murray with court costs, lawyers fees, and a civil penalty?
The single biggest tax cut of the bunch applies exclusively to individuals earning more than $200,000 a year or married couples with combined incomes of more than $250,000. It’s a 3.8 percent tax on net investment income (basically capital gains or dividends) that applies only if your total income is over those threshold points.But not only does the bill repeal that tax, it repeals it retroactively, to give rich families a tax break on investment income accrued earlier this year as well as investment income going forward. …
The key thing here is that there’s absolutely no reason to think a retroactive tax cut will boost job creation and growth. You’re essentially increasing people’s incentives to travel back in time and create jobs earlier in the year. Or, rather, you’re not increasing anyone’s incentive to do anything. You’re just shoveling money into the pockets of the least needy families in the country.
So McConnell took Ryan’s shitty bill, put a new plastic cover on it, and turned it in like it was his own homework and now wants accolades?
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 22, 2017
re: #307 KGxvi
I watched the episode the other day. Murray is at least a quasi-public person with respect to the coal industry (he’s appeared on television multiple times to speak about issues); which means he’s going to have to reach the standard of actual malice to win. That means he has to prove that Oliver knew (or should have known) something he said was false and still went ahead with reckless disregard for the truth. There was nothing I saw that gets to that level. Almost everything Oliver said was backed up by actual public statements by Murray.
Yup. Like the New York Times, Murray is trying to use his money and lawyers (and his lung condition) to intimidate John Oliver. I doubt it will work.
Get ready: CBO says it aims to release an estimate for the Senate health plan “early next week”. https://t.co/OXylScJsep
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 22, 2017
re: #278 FormerDirtDart
To give all an idea of what crashed.
It’s not some souped-up model airplane.
If it’s a Global Hawk, that thing costs a pile of money (multiple tens of millions).
re: #314 Dr. Matt
They just need to figure out how far to the right to move the decimal.
re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth
Interesting break down on that decision. Kagan wrote the majority opinion (Roberts, Kennedy, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Sotomayor joined). Gorsuch (joined by Thomas) concurred in part and in the judgment - basically he think the majority went too far in creating a new test. Alito concurred in the judgment but filed a separate opinion, which I cannot for the life of me figure out the point of.
And here we go….more bullshit from the Asshole in Chief
BREAKING: President Trump: “I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings” of conversations with former FBI Director Comey. pic.twitter.com/ovuFt0Kciy
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) June 22, 2017
re: #318 Dr. Matt
And here we go….more bullshit from the Asshole in Chief
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What happened, did Cohen finally put a gun to his head?
re: #310 Timothy Watson
I guess it’s too much to hope for a West Virginia court to slap Murray with court costs, lawyers fees, and a civil penalty?
Oliver can probably remove it to federal court based on diversity jurisdiction. But I don’t know if West Virginia has something similar to the California anti-SLAPP statute that would allow an award of attorney fees.
re: #315 ericblair
If it’s a Global Hawk, that thing costs a pile of money (multiple tens of millions).
Something like $130 million (unit production cost) each. So, more than an “over priced”, “way to expensive” F-35 fighter.
re: #318 Dr. Matt
And here we go….more bullshit from the Asshole in Chief
Also yous people take my tweets too seriously literally I was just joking when I told Comey to watch out for my tape recordings FAKE NEWS! Did you see my yuuuge rally last night? Record numbers.
re: #318 Dr. Matt
And here we go….more bullshit from the Asshole in Chief
So, Donny admits he was trying to intimidate Comey.
A statement by the President: pic.twitter.com/v7YVcVul2z
— Real Press Sec. (@RealPressSecBot) June 22, 2017
A statement by the President: pic.twitter.com/IsHNXgP5qe
— Real Press Sec. (@RealPressSecBot) June 22, 2017
re: #318 Dr. Matt
And here we go….more bullshit from the Asshole in Chief
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I feel like it’s important to point out that Trump is essentially admitting that he tried to intimidate a witness. Comey was both a witness before Congress in its oversight capacity and in an ongoing FBI criminal investigation. That’s more proof of obstruction of justice.
I wonder if his lawyers finally made clear to Trump just how deep the shit he’s in really is…nah, he’s probably just convinced he can bullshit his way out of yet another jam.
I heard on NPR this morning that the number of “white” people dying outpaced the number of births for the first time last year. I fully expect the #whitgenocide wackos to be out in force today.
re: #323 Belafon
So, Donny admits he was trying to intimidate Comey.
No. I mean yeah. I mean so what? No. No crime. No collusion. Everyone says so! I’m being investigated for firing my own FBI director which I can. Although I’m not being investigated because I’ve been cleared.
re: #326 Targetpractice
I wonder if his lawyers finally made clear to Trump just how deep the shit he’s in really is…nah, he’s probably just convinced he can bullshit his way out of yet another jam.
My guess is they tried. And then they saw this tweet and told the bartender “just leave the bottle.”
re: #325 KGxvi
I feel like it’s important to point out that Trump is essentially admitting that he tried to intimidate a witness. Comey was both a witness before Congress in its oversight capacity and in an ongoing FBI criminal investigation. That’s more proof of obstruction of justice.
Dershowitz: Actually, the POTUS is allowed to warn witnesses, it’s not intimidation. Not really.
Gingrich: By definition, the POTUS cannot intimidate witnesses since he can’t be indicted or impeached or held criminally liable for anything.
Hannity: The lefty press, George Soros and Deep State are trying to sabotage our president.
McCain: I’m very concerned about all this.
There it is. People who can remain eligible to enroll for any remaining Medicaid expansion benefits.
Sorry, ladies. pic.twitter.com/m51OvzpTxr— Nish Weiseth (@NishWeiseth) June 22, 2017
re: #330 Sir John Barron
Dershowitz: Actually, the POTUS is allowed to warn witnesses, it’s not intimidation. Not really.
Gingrich: By definition, the POTUS cannot intimidate witnesses since he can’t be indicted or impeached or held criminally liable for anything. Even though I said Clinton could be held liable for anything he did, while I was doing the same thing.
Hannity: The lefty press, George Soros and Deep State are trying to sabotage our president.
McCain: I’m very concerned about all this.
re: #330 Sir John Barron
Dershowitz: Actually, the POTUS is allowed to warn witnesses, it’s not intimidation. Not really.
Gingrich: By definition, the POTUS cannot intimidate witnesses since he can’t be indicted or impeached or held criminally liable for anything.
Hannity: The lefty press, George Soros and Deep State are trying to sabotage our president.
McCain: I’m very concerned about all this.
Jones: *incoherent babbling that makes the homeless guy on the corner seem rational*
There will be insurance for everybody.
Everyone will have access to health insurance.
From the archives: We need a new health-care system https://t.co/dFyQfacAKd #HealthcareBill pic.twitter.com/MMvTv73nHX
— Ann Telnaes (@AnnTelnaes) June 22, 2017
re: #325 KGxvi
I feel like it’s important to point out that Trump is essentially admitting that he tried to intimidate a witness. Comey was both a witness before Congress in its oversight capacity and in an ongoing FBI criminal investigation. That’s more proof of obstruction of justice.
Exactly but this is just the greatest witch hunt in history, just ask him. //
re: #307 KGxvi
I watched the episode the other day. Murray is at least a quasi-public person with respect to the coal industry (he’s appeared on television multiple times to speak about issues); which means he’s going to have to reach the standard of actual malice to win. That means he has to prove that Oliver knew (or should have known) something he said was false and still went ahead with reckless disregard for the truth. There was nothing I saw that gets to that level. Almost everything Oliver said was backed up by actual public statements by Murray.
Well, Oliver did make the knowingly false claim that Murray said a giant squirrel spoke to him.
re: #310 Timothy Watson
The last time a WV court ruled against Murray, he spend $20 million supporting that court’s opponents the next time there were judges on the ballot. He got a new court, that reversed the decision.
re: #302 scottslemmons
Republicans are fucking morons. Some goddamn shithead shoots at them, and they react by trying to make it even easier to get guns. Then they start pushing this thing that’ll kill their constituents, and they don’t even stop to think that they’ll have to wear brown pants to every campaign event, public appearance, and town hall meeting for the rest of their careers?
Their voters will continue support them. And they won’t hold open town hall meetings. They’ve gotten away with this for years
BREAKING: Man who fired gun in DC restaurant while investigating conspiracy theory `pizzagate’ sentenced to 4 years in prison.
— The Associated Press (@AP) June 22, 2017
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
Take a bow, A Jones.
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Got off light IMO. He could have killed someone. From what I understand, he’s genuinely contrite but you know what, he still put people in danger because he fell for a bullshit conspriacy theory.
re: #341 Sir John Barron
Take a bow, A Jones.
To me, Alex is worse than the actual shooter because he spread this crap even though he knew it was false and he knew something bad would happen.
This is the part where they cut Medicaid even more than the House bill. pic.twitter.com/UMmFrOSgzA
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) June 22, 2017
re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth
Erick son of Erick: If the ISIS Left is going to be violent all the time we should secede.
Police Forcibly Remove Healthcare Protesters from Outside Mitch McConnell’s Office
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Allegedly, someone was injured and Capitol staff had to clean up blood from the floor.
re: #337 The Vicious Babushka
Well, Oliver did make the knowingly false claim that Murray said a giant squirrel spoke to him.
Not at all. Oliver truthfully reported that Murray *says* this… then adds that he thinks Murray was lying about it.
re: #343 HappyWarrior
To me, Alex is worse than the actual shooter because he spread this crap even though he knew it was false and he knew something bad would happen.
Agitprop. Stochastic terrorism. (Unfortunately protected I Amendment speech.)
re: #346 Anymouse 🌹
Police remove protesters, some in wheelchairs, from outside Mitch McConnell’s office pic.twitter.com/dZrdUZGOBU
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) June 22, 2017
Here’s a protester being literally carried away outside Mitch McConnell’s office pic.twitter.com/NKd8E5ofA8
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) June 22, 2017
re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Those damn intolerant college lefties and their hate of free peach. // Oh wait.
WH press office says no cameras or audio for broadcast at today’s WH briefing. But can still quote @SHSanders45 by name.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) June 22, 2017
Why are you all still attending then? https://t.co/j5Zhxx6JqA
— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) June 22, 2017
re: #346 Anymouse 🌹
Police Forcibly Remove Healthcare Protesters from Outside Mitch McConnell’s Office
huffingtonpost.comAllegedly, someone was injured and Capitol staff had to clean up blood from the floor.
Erickson: The radical ISIS Left has blood on their hands.
re: #330 Sir John Barron
Dershowitz: Actually, the POTUS is allowed to warn witnesses, it’s not intimidation. Not really.
Translation: Oh god, I hope Trump doesn’t have video of all the shit I did with Jeffrey Epstein!!!!
re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth
WH press office says no cameras or audio for broadcast at today’s WH briefing. But can still quote @SHSanders45 by name.
— Mark Knoller
Actually, WH press office says no cell phones, tablets, pens or pencils allowed either.
/
I think the plan has to be more than just “don’t attend” the pressers. If CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/WSJ/NYT/etc/etc/etc do not attend, no one except the die hards will notice.
1) All the Fox News/Breitbart/etc/etc “journalists” will be in attendance and report.
2) All the credible outlets will still report (it is news).
If they choose not to attend en masse then they need to editorialize their front covers and news broadcasts to let the public know why. THEN get to the news.
re: #353 HappyWarrior
This isn’t normal.
What the press ought to be doing (in my opinion):
Fine. No coverage. We’ll just go do the “investigative” part of investigative journalism.
re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They’re still attending because the Church of Bothsiderism demands they treat this administration as though it’s no different from any past administration.
re: #357 Franklin
I think the plan has to be more than just “don’t attend” the pressers. If CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/WSJ/NYT/etc/etc/etc do not attend, no one except the die hards will notice.
1) All the Fox News/Breitbart/etc/etc “journalists” will be in attendance and report.
2) All the credible outlets will still report (it is news).If they choose not to attend en masse then they need to editorialize their front covers and news broadcasts to let the public know why. THEN get to the news.
Yep. This needs to be made into a scandal.
re: #337 The Vicious Babushka
Well, Oliver did make the knowingly false claim that Murray said a giant squirrel spoke to him.
I just watched it. It was a “squirrel” not a “giant squirrel”
And he was stating what Murray’s employees had stated.
And, he reported that the Murray Energy spokespersons stated “it wasn’t true”. And, that he, Oliver, believed them.
re: #359 Targetpractice
They’re still attending because the Church of Bothsiderism demands they treat this administration as though it’s no different from any past administration.
At least my conservative regional newspaper is honestly conservative. They don’t pretend to play both sides (as I’ve noted here, in the “letters” column they seem to have a quota of one liberal letter a month, just to let everyone know round here there are liberals.)
Medicaid expansion phaseout expected to be 3 years. But 2 lobbyists say cld be pleased to 5 later to try to win mods https://t.co/sDrUNfxbou
— Peter Sullivan (@PeterSullivan4) June 21, 2017
I’m hearing the Medicaid expansion phaseout will be HARSHER in that it will also cut off funding for *existing* enrollees. Big if true. https://t.co/x464vHVIon
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) June 21, 2017
This is big and true. While there’s a phasedown in enhanced funding, these cuts now apply to *existing* enrollees too. https://t.co/16X9bV1svD
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) June 22, 2017
So Hugh Hewitt gets a half-hour at 8:00 AM on Saturday mornings on MSNBC.
Well, I can’t speak for anyone else, but I don’t think that is anything to worry about. I doubt he gets much in ratings and I bet he fails at it. It seems more like paying off a favor than some kind of a sign that MSNBC is going further right.
They do seem to be trying to have shows for everyone, and like Belafon pointed out…write them and say you like the evening shows and watch what you like. They are doing better than they have in some time so a little positive reinforcement might keep the evening going as is and maybe the Gretas and Hughs get shoved out.
From Day 1, the media labeled the ACA as #ObamaCare. Librul media my ass…..
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) June 22, 2017
Brazilian Activewear Company Cited for Photo in Restricted Colorado Lake
starherald.com
GLENWOOD SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — A Brazilian activewear company has been cited after a photographer waded in western Colorado’s Hanging Lake to take photos of models posing on a log that stretches across the fragile body of water.
The Glenwood Springs Post Independent reported Wednesday that the U.S. Forest Service served Liquido Active with three citations. The company received intense backlash on social media after it posted the photo on Instagram on June 14.
Visitors aren’t allowed to walk on the log and are barred from getting in the water because it endangers the travertine formations that give the designated National Landmark its turquoise color.
Liquido Active has apologized, and Forest Service Ranger Aaron Mayville says the company is taking part in a “strategy for public awareness and stewardship.”
Glad to hear he has a lung condition. I hope it’s fucking painful til the end of his days.
re: #313 Anymouse 🌹
Yup. Like the New York Times, Murray is trying to use his money and lawyers (and his lung condition) to intimidate John Oliver. I doubt it will work.
When Trump is through remaking the courts, the only people with free speech will be RW billionaires and Alex Jones.
I just have to comment on the idiocy of blaming Nancy Pelosi for the loss in Georgia and wanting her removed because she’s such a target. Haven’t these dumb fuckers learned yet that it doesn’t matter who you put in a leadership position for the Dems, the right will turn them into the worst liberal demon of all time? Until the next leader is appointed.
That says that they are still laboring under the delusion that those voters WANT to be reached. These are people who have cut themselves off from any news source that they consider too liberal (which is pretty much all of them), so they do not and will not listen to anything that counteracts the point of view that they happily embrace.
It’s the voters. They are voting for what they want. People keep thinking that they aren’t, but they really and truly are. Jesus Christ, let those dumb shits go and do the hard work of convincing lazy voters who don’t give a shit why they should. That’s still pretty difficult, but it still gives us a much better chance of success.
re: #367 Dr. Matt
Dr. Matt @DrMatthew
From Day 1, the media labeled the ACA as #ObamaCare. Librul media my ass…..
12:26 PM - 22 Jun 2017
To be fair, it’s the R’s who labelled the ACA as ObamaCare. So the D’s need to label this as TrumpCare and use that term in every interview. Or as I call it, TrumpDontCare
re: #361 FormerDirtDart
I just watched it. It was a “squirrel” not a “giant squirrel”
And he was stating what Murray’s employees had stated.
And, he reported that the Murray Energy spokespersons stated “it wasn’t true”. And, that he, Oliver, believed them.
Yes but then Oliver had the giant squirrel give his side of the story.
AF confirms that it was a Global Hawk that crashed in California this morning.
Air Force drone crashes in remote area near Mt. Whitney
A U.S. Air Force drone the size of a small airliner has crashed in a remote section of California near Mt. Whitney.
Edwards Air Force Base said in a statement that the RQ-4 Global Hawk, an unmanned surveillance aircraft, was making a routine trip Wednesday afternoon from Edwards to its usual home at Beale Air Force Base when it crashed for unknown reasons.
It was spying on the Bundy ranch, was damaged by a Patrito sniper with a tricked out AR-15, and crashed before it could regain its secret base in the crater atop Mount Whitney.
re: #257 alloutofcrazyhere
I used to keep cable for the news and sports. Unfortunately, cable news has been crap for a long time now. I cut the cord 5-6 years ago. I just grabbed an over the air antenna for my occasional football game fix, and then I just use streaming services like Netflix or Amazon Prime. If there’s a sports game that I really want to watch, I’ll just go to a bar.
I dumped the cable box when Al Jazerrra America was shut down. I replaced it with an Apple TV and I will listen to BSRNC on SiriusXM. Apple TV includes Sky which I’m hoping Screwpert Murdoch won’t get his hands on.