The Trump Gang Is Making Stephen Colbert’s Job Easy: Donald Jr.’s Best Defense? He’s an Idiot
Donald Trump Jr.’s many lawyers might be wondering if there’s such a thing as a stupidity plea.
Donald Trump Jr.’s many lawyers might be wondering if there’s such a thing as a stupidity plea.
Trump declines to repeat criticism of Paris after earlier comments that terrorism compromised the city https://t.co/hgDm8XyENT pic.twitter.com/fl37vxntfJ
— The Hill (@thehill) July 13, 2017
Following his long-established pattern of craven cowardice when in the company of people he’s been viciously attacking. https://t.co/S3r3I97AM3
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
WATCH: President Trump tells the French first lady, “You’re in such good shape” pic.twitter.com/UjiSIWWzoq
— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 13, 2017
The president of the U.S. just scammed on the First Lady of France. https://t.co/IlFerKLpFm
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) July 13, 2017
I can’t believe Trumps people think you can edit your security disclosures and it will all be okay.
This isn’t a misspelled word on a Tweet, it is a CRIME to lie on those forms.
Reposted from downstairs:
re: #425 mmmirele
OK, I’ll be the first to say this is an extremely tough read, but I think it’s an important read. It’s from the English edition of La Civilta Cattolica, which is pretty much the voice of the Pope. Writings published here are scrutinized by the Vatican first.
Basically, the Vatican is expressing concern over “spiritual warfare,” “prosperity theology,” “reconstructionism (dominionism)” and fundamentalism. The writers give a very brief history of American fundamentalism. They also name-drop Rousas J. Rushdoony, who was the proponent of the “reconstructionism” mentioned above. (Rushdoony wanted to bring back Old Testament law, complete with capital punishment.) The writers walk a careful path between out ad out secularism and fundamentalism, wanting Christian/Catholic input in the modern world, rather than having a holy war or Holy Roman Empire mentality.
Like I said this is tough to read, but take it in small bites—I think the Pope is saying he’s not liking the current fundamentalist marriage to the state.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
I can’t believe Trumps people think you can edit your security disclosures and it will all be okay.
This isn’t a misspelled word on a Tweet, it is a CRIME to lie on those forms.
Rules and laws are for other people.
/
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
As so many others have noted - omissions on SF-86 can result in revocation of security clearance plus criminal charges, dishonorable discharge, etc., depending on who is involved (civilian vs military).
A military official who lies by omission on the form? Dishonorable discharge, plus potential criminal charges.
A Trump official? So far, not a goddamned thing and that’s applicable to Sessions and Kushner. Who knows who else at this point too - like say - Pence.
Of course, the simplest answer to all this is IOKIYAR.
re: #5 Teukka
Reposted from downstairs:
An addendum is that the Catholic Church has its own memories, not always pleasant, from being married to politics. So this may be experience as well as concern.
Also, obligatory “Dune” quote:
“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong — faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.”
From the previous thread:
re: #446 The Vicious Babushka
I have 39 grandkids. But I guess they don’t even count because they are Juice. My youngest daughter married a whitey white man tho
Wow! That a third of the people in my town! Your family could move here and take over.
re: #425 mmmirele
OK, I’ll be the first to say this is an extremely tough read, but I think it’s an important read. It’s from the English edition of La Civilta Cattolica, which is pretty much the voice of the Pope. Writings published here are scrutinized by the Vatican first.
Basically, the Vatican is expressing concern over “spiritual warfare,” “prosperity theology,” “reconstructionism (dominionism)” and fundamentalism. The writers give a very brief history of American fundamentalism. They also name-drop Rousas J. Rushdoony, who was the proponent of the “reconstructionism” mentioned above. (Rushdoony wanted to bring back Old Testament law, complete with capital punishment.) The writers walk a careful path between out ad out secularism and fundamentalism, wanting Christian/Catholic input in the modern world, rather than having a holy war or Holy Roman Empire mentality.
Like I said this is tough to read, but take it in small bites—I think the Pope is saying he’s not liking the current fundamentalist marriage to the state.
I’ve held forth on the same subject, but my education level and such don’t carry much weight with others.
re: #7 lawhawk
As so many others have noted - omissions on SF-86 can result in revocation of security clearance plus criminal charges, dishonorable discharge, etc., depending on who is involved (civilian vs military).
A military official who lies by omission on the form? Dishonorable discharge, plus potential criminal charges.
A Trump official? So far, not a goddamned thing and that’s applicable to Sessions and Kushner. Who knows who else at this point too - like say - Pence.
Of course, the simplest answer to all this is IOKIYAR.
One of the RWNJ favorite taunts in ‘16 was that if [X person in Y agency] had done what HRC had done, regarding the private server (or something), he or she would have been [fired, imprisoned, executed].
Now…”Oh let’s not engage in finger pointing or penalize people for innocent mistakes.”
re: #13 Sir John Barron
One of the RWNJ favorite taunts in ‘16 was that if [X person in Y agency] had done what HRC had done, regarding the private server (or something), he or she would have been [fired, imprisoned, executed].
Now…”Oh let’s not engage in finger pointing or penalize people for innocent mistakes.”
Yep.
The brave story of one man’s lonesome struggle, where after he finally got a head in life, found he had no body to share it with.
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
Whelp, in my regional newspaper today:
More at the link:
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — An Indiana senator railed against Carrier Corp. for moving manufacturing jobs to Mexico last year, even as he profited from a family business that relies on Mexican labor to produce dye for ink pads, according to records reviewed by The Associated Press.
Joe Donnelly, considered one of the nation’s most vulnerable Democratic senators up for re-election next year, has long blasted free-trade policies for killing American jobs. He accused Carrier, an air conditioner and furnace maker, of exploiting $3-an-hour workers when it announced plans to wind down operations in Indiana and move to Mexico.
However, an arts and crafts business Donnelly’s family has owned for generations is capitalizing on some of the very trade policies — and low-paid foreign labor — the senator has denounced.
For more than a year, Stewart Superior Corp. and its subsidiaries have been shipping thousands of pounds of raw materials to Mexico, where the company has a factory that produces ink pads and other supplies, according to customs records from Panjiva Inc., which tracks American imports and exports. The finished products are then transported back to a company facility in California, the records show.
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re: #20 Anymouse 🌹
Shocking. Not shocking.
If it didn’t hurt Trump, it means that the GOP will go full bore to knock this guy on his business practices.
So Jr.’s best defense is to claim he’s just like daddy? Incompetent, idiotic & ignorant? The danger in that is that + racism is why Trumpenfuhrer got elected.
re: #23 William Lewis
So Jr.’s best defense is to claim he’s just like daddy? Incompetent, idiotic & ignorant? The danger in that is that + racism is why Trumpenfuhrer got elected.
Indeed, it’s seen as a virtue by too much of the electorate now.
I have to go take a water sample to the lab … back later.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
I can’t believe Trumps people think you can edit your security disclosures and it will all be okay.
This isn’t a misspelled word on a Tweet, it is a CRIME to lie on those forms.
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re: #5 Teukka
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Pope Francis allies accuse Trump White House of ‘apocalyptic geopolitics’ https://t.co/fO9VfNc7TQ
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) July 13, 2017
SCOOP: Leaked Documents Suggest Secretive Billionaire Trump Donors The Mercers Are Milo’s Patrons https://t.co/4OmMNAZTnR
— Joe Bernstein (@Bernstein) July 13, 2017
re: #28 Teukka
Doubt it. Even the religious types that continue supporting Trump may be doing so precisely for that very reason - they’re hoping to bring about some kind of Apocalyptic outcome to fulfill some religious belief (in much the same way they support Israel so as to bring about the End Times).
Portman, Capito & Murkowski - key to the Medicaid issue on Senate GOP health-care bill - meeting with McConnell right now
— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) July 13, 2017
Dean Heller, another key vote, just walked into McConnell’s office too https://t.co/RYD6IrWQsS
— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) July 13, 2017
Russia is worried that a trendy new toy will turn kids against the Kremlin https://t.co/3ZWrgd3wSV pic.twitter.com/Vq7JAFgo46
— Newsweek (@Newsweek) July 13, 2017
Fidget Spinners for Freedom https://t.co/lx9p02vzQe
— Otillia (@o_tilli_a) July 13, 2017
re: #32 FormerDirtDart
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Portman, Capito & Murkowski - key to the Medicaid issue on Senate GOP health-care bill - meeting with McConnell right now
Hope Capito holds—that article I posted last night from 538 said she’s voted the Trump line 100% of the time.
“But one called police, who detected a faint voice coming from inside the ATM.” https://t.co/pkwJATocjT
— Katherine Miller (@katherinemiller) July 13, 2017
Far from brooding, POTUS and his family feel like they turned a corner yesterday https://t.co/h7otwCivDd
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 13, 2017
Ron Howard voice: “They had not.” https://t.co/I24qLJlAnL
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
re: #36 Kragar
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Ron Howard serously needs to narrate everything the Trump clan does.
re: #36 Kragar
Far from brooding, POTUS and his family feel like they turned a corner yesterday nytimes.com
— Maggie Haberman
Keep digging…
re: #38 HappyWarrior
Ron Howard serously needs to narrate everything the Trump clan does.
Its eerie how well Arrested Development quotes fit the Trumps.
“I may have committed some light treason.”
re: #38 HappyWarrior
does that mean for Donald Jr. we should use Daniel Stern from The Wonder Years?
re: #40 Kragar
Its eerie how well Arrested Development quotes fit the Trumps.
“I may have committed some light treason.”
DJT: “Fortunately we got rid of Comey so all’s good.”
Ivanka: ….Mueller
DJT: “I can fire him, right”?
re: #29 Stanley Sea
SCOOP: Leaked Documents Suggest Secretive Billionaire Trump Donors The Mercers Are Milo’s Patrons buzzfeed.com
— Joe Bernstein (@Bernstein) July 13, 2017
Wingnut welfare as usual.
re: #36 Kragar
“Amazing no one’s arrested us yet. And Congress still supports us. And Fox has just been terrific. Can’t believe it’s been this easy.”
re: #42 Sir John Barron
DJT: “Fortunately we got rid of Comey so all’s good.”
Ivanka: ….Mueller
DJT: “I can fire him, right”?
“I’ve made a huge mistake.”
Trump did his yank-and-pull handshake on France’s first lady pic.twitter.com/11PHNXsEoq
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) July 13, 2017
re: #36 Kragar
They turned a corner…. in a room that has no corners.
re: #40 Kragar
Its eerie how well Arrested Development quotes fit the Trumps.
“I may have committed some light treason.”
Indeed. And the Trumps have Scott Baio too.
“Russia may sabotage the next election, too. What will Trump and Republicans do about it?”@ThePlumLineGShttps://t.co/vgphL9gyyP
— EJ Dionne (@EJDionne) July 13, 2017
they will say yes, please https://t.co/XHVp75EPYb
— (((myownpetard🌾))) (@myownpetard) July 13, 2017
OT my friend just texted me. She’s reviewing resume’s for her company & received one where the woman has a photo of herself on the resume.
Apparently a selfie taken in a bar.
re: #50 Kragar
“Russia may sabotage the next election, too. What will Trump and Republicans do about it?”@ThePlumLineGShttps://t.co
— EJ Dionne
He’ll deny it happened. Then maybe he’ll ask Putin if Putin did it.
/
re: #36 Kragar
Far from brooding, POTUS and his family feel like they turned a corner yesterday nytimes.com
— Maggie Haberman
“So I can go back to insulting people, right?”
#ELB: “Russia may sabotage the next election, too. What will Trump and Republicans do about it?” https://t.co/LS1SsEsXeU
— Rick Hasen (@rickhasen) July 13, 2017
Send Putin a thank you card and a nice fruit basket https://t.co/iJyjTKd7Px
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
Did Trump visit with the US Ambassador to France today?
Nope, the post is vacant, without even a Nominee.
Take a look at the list of vacancies which includes Norway, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Australia (there’s about forty open vacancies including most of Europe, the EU, and the UN). But MAGA!
Here’s the list:
re: #55 austin_blue
Did Trump visit with the US Ambassador to France today?
Nope, the post is vacant, without even a Nominee.
Take a look at the list of vacancies includes Norway, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Australia (there’s about forty open vacancies including most of Europe, the EU, and the UN). But MAGA!
Here’s the list:
The Democratic Senate majority is blocking all of them.
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this really is the ultimate “are you fucking kidding me” image pic.twitter.com/rnGEVwSp6m
— Rob Beschizza (@Beschizza) July 13, 2017
this was one of my favorite passages from last night’s af1 chat with potus, on why there should be holes in the wall pic.twitter.com/uLnGT3Aqu2
— Justin Sink (@justinsink) July 13, 2017
Sen. Blunt laying out a case of the trump campaign’s inexperience - when it comes to Russian collusion - on MTP Daily.
— Noke Llusion (@BroderickGreer) July 12, 2017
Getting really tired of ignorance and incompetence being touted out as defenses for Team Trump’s mendacious & illegal behavior. https://t.co/r2sgedtkU1
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #50 Kragar
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Tell them not to tell them. They want it to be a surprise this time!
re: #59 goddamnedfrank
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Pathetic. Maybe they shouldn’t be trusted to run the country if they’re too stupid to know collusion is bad.
Kellyanne’s secret message decoded… pic.twitter.com/GlKrzR9ixu
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) July 13, 2017
re: #58 FormerDirtDart
fwiw i don’t remember potus saying “cray” - likely a typo in transcript compiled by the white house.
— Justin Sink (@justinsink) July 13, 2017
re: #59 goddamnedfrank
“The intolerant left is too quick to judge our naïve man-child President who is too stupid to understand that obstructing justice is wrong.”
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #65 Stanley Sea
JFC I didn’t think that was real.
I still think this one should’ve gotten more Twitter action.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #58 FormerDirtDart
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OMG…so if we build a wall the drug dealers will just blindly start chunking over 60# bags of dope?!
BUILD THE WALL!!
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Welp, I guess Macron now has all the incentive he needs to succeed:
“I really have a feeling that you’re going to have a very, very peaceful and beautiful Paris, and I’m coming back,” Trump said, before turning to Macron and telling him to “do a good job, please. Otherwise you’re going to make me look very bad.”
Oh, and about “Jim?” This is hilarious:
Earlier this year, The New Yorker also tried to find Jim, to no avail. Lauren Collins, the magazine’s Paris correspondent, ran through some people named Jim who were affiliated with Trump and might be the friend in question.
Trump doesn’t follow any Jims on Twitter. But it’s easy to find Jims with whom he’s crossed paths. Jim Kelly, formerly of the Buffalo Bills? “No, that would not be Jim Kelly,” a representative said. Jim Dolan, the C.E.O. of Cablevision and the chairman of Madison Square Garden, who lent Trump the Rockettes for his inaugural concert? “That’s not him,” his spokesperson responded. Jim Furyk, the golfer? “Not him,” according to his agent. Jim Davis, the footwear mogul, whose support for Trump prompted a hate Web site to declare New Balance “the Official Shoes of White People”? “No, it is not Jim Davis,” a company P.R. manager replied. Jim Inhofe, the senator and climate-change denier, did not respond; neither did Jim McNerney, the former Boeing executive, who is part of the President’s Kitchen Cabinet. Jim Mattis, the “Warrior Monk” general, doesn’t have a wife. James Comey—does anybody know if he goes by Jim?
The result: Zéro.
re: #58 FormerDirtDart
More nonsensical Trump stream of consciousness verbiage.
re: #59 goddamnedfrank
I’m honestly beginning to wonder, if the president would have just been chosen at random, how much better off would we be? And could it really have been much worse?
The median age in the US is about 37, so figure that means there’s about 130 million people constitutionally qualified for the office (I’m guessing about 30 million either naturalized citizens, permanent resident aliens, or otherwise unqualified). Where does Trump rate in that 130 million? Like 128,954,312?
re: #65 Stanley Sea
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I love the idea that dope smugglers will toss 60# bags over the wall and accidentally kill their partners, because there’s no way they could, say, shout, “Stand back! It’s coming over!”
Or, you know, tie a rope to it so you can lower it gently.
re: #70 b.d.
The same drug dealers who’ve shown ingenuity to use everything from tunnels and catapults will suddenly find a fucking fence a problem? A wall with holes isn’t a wall. It’s a fence.
Trump’s also identified problems with his own plan - it’s easy to climb with a ladder or rope, no matter how high it’s made.
And he’s previously admitted it’d be okay to rely on natural barriers like rivers, mountains, and deserts - which describes the current fucking situation.
None of this matters to the Trump twits who think a wall will solve their problems.
But as we also found today, Trump’s not only looking to curb illegal immigration, but all immigration. It’s about pushing a nativist and xenophobic policy, which meshes well with the white supremacists who he pandered to all throughout the entire campaign.
Means to an end.
Pure evil and no good can come from any of this.
It’s Story Time with Chris Hayes…
So here is what we are currently being asked to believe. 1/x
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 13, 2017
A Putin-aligned Russian oligarch and his son cultivate a personal/professional relationship w/ Trump and his family over several years. 2/x
When Trump becomes the nominee, said oligarch uses trusted intermediary to tell Trump Jr there’s a Russain gov effort to elect Trump 3/x
And that as part of that effort they have damaging info on Hillary to share. They set up a meeting to collaborate on this project. 4/x
Trump’s son, his campaign chair and son in law attend a meeting w/ a person called a “Russian government lawyer” to obtain the dirt 5/x
Everyone shows up at the meeting and…the lawyer just talked about adoption and the Magnitsky act! After all that, it’s a dud. 6/x
And then, and here’s the crucial part, NO ONE DOES ANYTHING ELSE. The oligarch and son don’t make further contact. 7/x
Trump & Co don’t use the active line of communication thru Goldstone to say “hey what the hell was that about?” Everyone just drops it! 8/x
Both Trump’s campaign and the Putin-allioed oligarch never take another single step to further a collaboration they’d both agreed to! 9/x
And then, oh by the way, teh Russian government *is actually* engaged in a brazen, sophisticated effort to get Trump elected 10/x
And as that becomes public just 5 weeks later, no one at Trump Tower gets curious. No one reaches back out. No one calls Emin. 11/x
No one emails Goldstone about this topic ever again. No one brings it up ever again. 12/x
No one ever tells Trump “Aras and Emin said the Russian government wants to try to get you elected, but then we had this weird meeting” 13/x
No one ever raises it when they see DNC hacks & Wikileaks. Everyone just forgets about that crazy time, when dad’s Russian contacts 14/x
reached out to join forces with the Russian government to defeat Hillary. That’s it, That’s the end of the story. 15/x
I don’t have the words to express how implausible that version of events is, but it’s what the WH is currently telling us happened. 16/16
Interesting how everyone who said Comey was wrong & criminal intent didn’t matter in the Hillary email think it matters now wrt Jared & Jr.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
Also, please ignore that Jr & Manafort have been flagrantly lying by vociferously denying any contacts with Russia for a year now.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #77 goddamnedfrank
As always, it’s OK if you are a Republican.
I now have a much better understanding of the hard-line partisan mindset. It’s difficult for me to imagine what it would take for me to vote against the Democrat in any contested general election vs. a Republican.
This is the exact mirror image of the voting habits of the Fox News crowd, and my only defense is that my hard line position is based on the truth about the GOP, and their hard line position is based on lies.
re: #76 FormerDirtDart
Hayes’ timeline doesn’t even mention that Trump publicly asked the Russians to hack Hillary’s email.
re: #33 FormerDirtDart
Typical authoritarian thought process, “It’s new. We’ve never seen anything like it before. Therefore it is a danger to our power.
“It must be destroyed.”
re: #75 lawhawk
To me, the attempts to shut down legal immigration are the most abhorrent policy the Trumpets are pushing. It goes beyond the idea of the US being a melting pot and welcoming of immigrants/refugees. It’s the kind of policy that is going to wreck our economy more than anything. The youngest boomers are in their mid-50s. As they retire there are going to be a lot of jobs that need to be filled - not just the ones they are retiring from but also home/elderly care jobs that don’t even exist at the moment. They are setting us up for a Japanese-style economic collapse - not that they care, by the time it happens they’ll be dead or sexually harassing the nurses at their nursing homes.
And even meeting them on the grounds of illegal immigration, the idea a wall or fence is actually needed is just wrong… illegal (southern) border crossings are down 90% in the last decade.
I’m dying. This is amazing. pic.twitter.com/6oYShZ5lG4
— Patrick Nolan (@SSS_pnoles) July 13, 2017
Man, I feel old…
Forty years ago today, New Yorkers spent a chaotic night and day without electricity. https://t.co/NtnsszFGCi pic.twitter.com/rlS1VJNUnH
— NYT Metro (@NYTMetro) July 13, 2017
re: #46 Sir John Barron
Some people like setting their money on fire.
When you have that much money setting it on fire is a status symbol.
re: #76 FormerDirtDart
It’s Story Time with Chris Hayes…
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A Putin-aligned Russian oligarch and his son cultivate a personal/professional relationship w/ Trump and his family over several years. 2/x
When Trump becomes the nominee, said oligarch uses trusted intermediary to tell Trump Jr there’s a Russain gov effort to elect Trump 3/x
And that as part of that effort they have damaging info on Hillary to share. They set up a meeting to collaborate on this project. 4/x
Trump’s son, his campaign chair and son in law attend a meeting w/ a person called a “Russian government lawyer” to obtain the dirt 5/x
Everyone shows up at the meeting and…the lawyer just talked about adoption and the Magnitsky act! After all that, it’s a dud. 6/x
And then, and here’s the crucial part, NO ONE DOES ANYTHING ELSE. The oligarch and son don’t make further contact. 7/x
Trump & Co don’t use the active line of communication thru Goldstone to say “hey what the hell was that about?” Everyone just drops it! 8/x
Both Trump’s campaign and the Putin-allioed oligarch never take another single step to further a collaboration they’d both agreed to! 9/x
And then, oh by the way, teh Russian government *is actually* engaged in a brazen, sophisticated effort to get Trump elected 10/x
And as that becomes public just 5 weeks later, no one at Trump Tower gets curious. No one reaches back out. No one calls Emin. 11/x
No one emails Goldstone about this topic ever again. No one brings it up ever again. 12/x
No one ever tells Trump “Aras and Emin said the Russian government wants to try to get you elected, but then we had this weird meeting” 13/x
No one ever raises it when they see DNC hacks & Wikileaks. Everyone just forgets about that crazy time, when dad’s Russian contacts 14/x
reached out to join forces with the Russian government to defeat Hillary. That’s it, That’s the end of the story. 15/x
I don’t have the words to express how implausible that version of events is, but it’s what the WH is currently telling us happened. 16/16
re: #79 stpaulbear
Hayes’ timeline doesn’t even mention that Trump publicly asked the Russians to hack Hillary’s email.
Yes, Hayes has been focusing on internal evidence (I’m sure he’s also aware of the external) — did you see his close-read of the emails that pretty convincing demonstrated that there were phone calls in the middle of the email timeline?
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
I can’t believe Trumps people think you can edit your security disclosures and it will all be okay.
This isn’t a misspelled word on a Tweet, it is a CRIME to lie on those forms.
Only when the powers that be act on the law when broken. See Securities exchange comm. Then uh oh GOP congress. Ugh
re: #87 petesh
Yes, Hayes has been focusing on internal evidence (I’m sure he’s also aware of the external) — did you see his close-read of the emails that pretty convincing demonstrated that there were phone calls in the middle of the email timeline?
A congresswoman (forget who) was talking about the phone calls on CNN this morn.
Whereas Republicans just gave Russia control over the person with nuclear launch authority. Yeah, totally different.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
It most certainly does when they only reason you win a state’s EC votes is due to rigging the votes
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
Here we go
Among pts WH omitted, per pool: Trump said of Jr mtg “In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point” but he wasn’t told it was abt HRC & dirt
— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) July 13, 2017
“maybe it was mentioned at some point” https://t.co/9WTAfb2lOZ
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 13, 2017
Bet there’s no White House signing ceremony, with president surrounded by State, DoD, DoE non-proliferation team, with live coverage for this…
Trump administration expected to certify Iran is compliant with Obama’s nuclear deal https://t.co/nhxwUw1eSW w/ @eliselabottcnn
— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) July 13, 2017
The story is already changing.
Among pts WH omitted, per pool: Trump said of Jr mtg “In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point” but he wasn’t told it was abt HRC & dirt
— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) July 13, 2017
No wonder Sarah Huckabee wanted to keep this briefing off the record, he’s confessing everything. https://t.co/3foRUwvneb
— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 13, 2017
re: #93 FormerDirtDart
Bet there’s no White House signing ceremony, with president surrounded by State, DoD, DoE non-proliferation team, with live coverage for this…
“First thing I’m gonna do is rip up the terrible, disastrous Iran deal!”
re: #94 goddamnedfrank
The story is already changing.
I wonder why. I mean, the GOP congress and Fox News will gladly accept a “I never knew about this meeting” claim.
re: #95 Sir John Barron
“First thing I’m gonna do is rip up the terrible, disastrous Iran deal!”
Well the rubes never cared about this issue anyway, it was just a nice applause line, about Obama/Clinton supposedly having endangered the U.S. and Israel, but now that they have their Incredible Dear Leader, no fears.
It has begun -> Republican congressman calls on Trump to kick his kids out of the White House https://t.co/QoLHZ1jzvK pic.twitter.com/px31LAsZFK
— R. Saddler 📎 (@Politics_PR) July 13, 2017
2. …and to benefit Trump. Then they lied about this & provided Putin cover. https://t.co/EdYCb3rvbk
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 13, 2017
“…The Trump Jr. emails demonstrate that through this entire affair, Trump’s top advisers possessed direct inside information indicating Putin’s crew was willing to act clandestinely to boost Trump’s chances. Whenever they discounted the idea that Russia was plotting against Clinton to help Trump—or stood by when Trump did so—they were lying. More important, they were knowingly creating a smokescreen behind which the Putin operation could proceed.”
Collaboration. Giving away the farm to the Russians. GOP and Trump have given Russia keys to US natsec, and that’s not enough for GOP.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 13, 2017
Blech. I hate this thread because it’s true -_- (except for the word “may”):
A lot of GOP voters may think “how does Russian interference affect me in practice, other than by helping my preferred candidate win?”
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 13, 2017
Like I’ve said, GOPers/trumpchumps are a total lost cause. That leaves apathetic, low-info, don’t-bother-to-voters, so to convince them that they should care, we all need to specify how Putin’s support for the GOP directly results in policies that harm Americans (e.g. Putin helps GOPer win, GOPer goes on to slash medicaid/medicare/etc)
re: #102 lawhawk
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
Imagine being a wealthy white guy and telling this to poor minorities who vote for Democrats pic.twitter.com/QFy141R94p
— Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) July 13, 2017
re: #105 Interesting Times
Blech. I hate this thread because it’s true -_- (except remove the word “may”):
Like I’ve said, GOPers/trumpchumps are a total lost cause. That leaves apathetic, low-info, don’t-bother-to-voters, so to convince them that they should care, we all need to specify how Putin’s support for the GOP directly results in policies that harm Americans (e.g. Putin helps GOPer win, GOPer goes on to slash medicaid/medicare/etc)
But the trumpchumps sure cared a lot about government email protocol.
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re: #106 KGxvi
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
They are who we thought they were—unprincipled opportunists concerned only about power.
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
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Holy shit, that’s patronizing. Not to mention calling center liberals failures. Yeah I forgot how well their worldview is doing.
re: #101 Sir John Barron
Smeared the US IC.
Seems Drumpf’s team wants to do the US as much damage as they can as fast as they can. I know that’s hyperbole, but hey, look at what’s already happened. It’s just nothing but bad craziness…
re: #100 ObserverArt
Lookout world! It’s Scarborough.
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I remember back in the day when he was writing third-rate Springsteen knock-offs.
Now he’s up to copping from the Cars. I guess in another 10 years he’ll write a Nirvana song.
re: #111 austin_blue
Seems Drumpf’s team wants to do the US as much damage as they can as fast as they can. I know that’s hyperbole, but hey, look at what’s already happened. It’s just nothing but bad craziness…
And we’re barely six months into this farce.
For the font geeks, there’s an ongoing scandal over in Pakistan that could take down their prime minister over a deed - specifically the font the deed was printed in - Calibri.
The daughter of Pakistan’s prime minister has become subject of ridicule in her home country after forensic experts cast doubts on documents central to her defence against corruption allegations.
Mariam Nawaz Sharif is under supreme court investigation after the 2016 Panama Papers leak tied her to a purchase of high-end London property acquired through offshore companies in the British Virgin Islands.
Documents claiming that Mariam Nawaz Sharif was only a trustee of the companies that bought the London flats, are dated February 2006, and appear to be typed in Microsoft Calibri.
But the font was only made commercially available in 2007, leading to suspicions that the documents are forged.
Social media users have derided Sharif for this apparent misstep, coining the hashtag #fontgate.
According to Wikipedia, the online encyclopaedia, the Calibri font was developed in 2004 but only reached the general public on 30 January 2007 with the launch of Microsoft Vista and Microsoft Office 2007.
How quaint. The Pakistani government could fall because of garden variety corruption and a coverup using a font that didn’t exist at the time the document was supposedly created (shades of Rathergate).
Meanwhile, here in the US, we’re dealing with an Admin whose key officials are complicit in multiple acts of conspiracy and collusion with a foreign power to obtain foreign intel used to influence outcome of election (at a minimum) that would had their party affiliation been different - already been forced to resign, with impeachment efforts set to begin.
Kushner updates disclosure form to add more than 100 foreign contacts: report https://t.co/amasTF6q4I pic.twitter.com/x8E2bbSn0Q
— The Hill (@thehill) July 13, 2017
Again, anybody else and they not only would have immediately lost their clearance, they’d be under criminal investigation.
Nepotism pays https://t.co/a4kox9RFdF— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 13, 2017
re: #113 Sir John Barron
And we’re barely six months into this farce.
No shit. Well, actually, a shitstorm.
Republicans are complicit in destroying the idea that we are a nation of laws.
On CNN, @SebGorka admits WH is considering giving 2 spy compounds in US back to Russia: “We want to give collaboration a chance” with Russia
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) July 13, 2017
TFW you mean to say cooperation but then freudian slip. https://t.co/zVYblDflnl
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #113 Sir John Barron
And we’re barely six months into this farce.
The lunacy of his campaign from the beginning in 2015 through November 2016 was on full display and his *presidency* has lived down to the campaign even more than could be expected.
For one thing, as poorly as I thought of Drumpf and his team of misanthropes, I didn’t think he actually, actively colluded with Russia. Surely, I told myself, that was way too stupid and too unpatriotic even for this goon. There was a lot that was awfully strange about the sequence of events, of Trump’s refusal to condemn Russia and his war against the US IC. But I doubted such a thing as the meeting that was revealed last weekend could have taken place. But obviously it did, and the drupmptf campaign went to the darkest places to win the election and damage the country.
On CNN, @SebGorka admits WH is considering giving 2 spy compounds in US back to Russia: “We want to give collaboration a chance” with Russia
— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) July 13, 2017
Call me old fashioned, but hearing Nazi sympathizers talking about collaboration with the enemy pisses me off. https://t.co/3cyqA2tPrF
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 13, 2017
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re: #106 KGxvi
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
They don’t care. It was all situational. Now that they’ve got all the power and control, they will do whatever they want to cement their power. It’s not about what’s good for the US. They’re handing the keys to US natsec to our adversaries/rivals.
re: #120 Kragar
On CNN, @SebGorka admits WH is considering giving 2 spy compounds in US back to Russia: “We want to give collaboration a chance” with Russia
— Brian Fallon
The Russians we now know interfered in our electoral process and worked with Trump to sway the election results?
That Russia?
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re: #102 lawhawk
Gorka says WH is considering giving back compounds to Russia because “we want to give collaboration” a chance https://t.co/d4GFLUMbZH
— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) July 13, 2017
As CNN has reported, US Intel found evidence the compounds were used for spying on the US https://t.co/CqHWp0qmoj
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) July 13, 2017
The FBI has requested intervention on compounds for years on the grounds that surveillance of them is an enormous drain on Bureau resources. https://t.co/GHCzQwaEYg
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) July 13, 2017
This White House wants to loot the nation, so they’re joining forces with the people who are looting Russia.
re: #123 b.d.
I guess we don’t need to ask Mr. Gorka what Russia is giving us?
If you bend Trump over, you might be able to find it.
It’s either give the Russian back their spy compounds or the pee tapes get released…a no-brainer for the brainless.
re: #123 b.d.
I guess we don’t need to ask Mr. Gorka what Russia is giving us?
It’s more a matter of what they are not sharing…
re: #130 Sir John Barron
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Continual info on Democrats and Never Trumpers who are illegally defying Great Leader.
It’s abhorrent that Gorka is still part of this admin given his background.
Guess that’s what happens when you pick bigots (a neo Nazi to boot), incompetents, and con men to run things.
Reminder: Gorka couldn’t get the job he really wanted with the WH because he couldn’t get a clearance (which really tells you how bad things are at the WH).
re: #119 Sir John Barron
The lunacy of his campaign from the beginning in 2015 through November 2016 was on full display and his *presidency* has lived down to the campaign even more than could be expected.
For one thing, as poorly as I thought of Drumpf and his team of misanthropes, I didn’t think he actually, actively colluded with Russia. Surely, I told myself, that was way too stupid and too unpatriotic even for this goon. There was a lot that was awfully strange about the sequence of events, of Trump’s refusal to condemn Russia and his war against the US IC. But I doubted such a thing as the meeting that was revealed last weekend could have taken place. But obviously it did, and the drupmptf campaign went to the darkest places to win the election and damage the country.
May I ask a question? Why did you not believe the reports and info that came out last year? That also means you didn’t believe Obama and Hillary. Why? Was it because you don’t trust the reporting? Was it because you thought it was all politics?
re: #107 goddamnedfrank
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I expect that by the next election, Will Menaker will either be too busy playing the new Madden to bother voting, or he’ll be out of the closet as a Trumper.
re: #134 ObserverArt
May I ask a question? Why did you not believe the reports and info that came out last year? That also means you didn’t believe Obama and Hillary. Why? Was it because you don’t trust the reporting? Was it because you thought it was all politics?
Oh I didn’t doubt the Russian meddling. I just doubted whether Trump had actively participated in it to the degree that has now been demonstrated.
re: #123 b.d.
I guess we don’t need to ask Mr. Gorka what Russia is giving us?
Those ‘deliverables’ have already been, umm, delivered.
re: #119 Sir John Barron
For one thing, as poorly as I thought of Drumpf and his team of misanthropes, I didn’t think he actually, actively colluded with Russia. Surely, I told myself, that was way too stupid and too unpatriotic even for this goon.
We were aware of his extensive business dealings with Russia and Republics of the former USSR, and were aware of close contacts between these business partners and the government.
But nobody who wanted to act was able to do anything to find out more and those who could act chose not to.
re: #106 KGxvi
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
View everything they say and do in terms of gaining power, not what’s good for the country. Once you do that, it all makes sense: There are no contradictions if power is your ultimate goal. While the system was set up to have different sides compete to gain power, they were supposed to be patriotic enough not to sell it for a few pieces of silver. This is where the GOP fails.
Among pts WH omitted, per pool: Trump said of Jr mtg “In fact maybe it was mentioned at some point” but he wasn’t told it was abt HRC & dirt
— Julie Davis (@juliehdavis) July 13, 2017
Here we go. The truth is starting to come out now. https://t.co/esIVIMkFyH
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
He seems nice.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 13, 2017
re: #140 Belafon
View everything they say and do in terms of gaining power, not what’s good for the country. Once you do that, it all makes sense: There are no contradictions if power is your ultimate goal. While the system was set up to have different sides compete to gain power, they were supposed to be patriotic enough not to sell it for a few pieces of silver. This is where the GOP fails.
Maybe my outlook is too long term, then, because I don’t see how selling out to a hostile adversary helps me secure power beyond the end of next week. What good is having power if gaining it means weakening American standing internationally (meaning you have less power)? What good is having power if gaining it means that the system/society/economy you seek to control is weakened by outside forces?
This is the sheep mortgaging the fields to the wolves. Any short term gain you might think you have is clearly outweighed by the eventual fuckedupness you’re going to experience.
re: #137 Sir John Barron
Oh I didn’t doubt the Russian meddling. I just doubted whether Trump had actively participated in it to the degree that has now been demonstrated.
Thanks for the clarification.
I thought he was involved from the get go because no one does anything without Big Don knowing it. And he surrounds himself in yes men that do his bidding…but he is always in control of that bidding.
Hmm. Maybe I’ve followed his bad character too long. I’ve long thought the guy was a complete asshole con artist. If he told me it was raining outside, I’d buy some extra sunscreen.
re: #106 KGxvi
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
2/Yesterday we reported Trump lawyer Kasowitz isn’t seeking security clearance. Even if he did, he might not get it. https://t.co/yw0jM50YQf
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
4/ Here’s that email: pic.twitter.com/fv4hul3EJl
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
13/ Here’s the whole story: https://t.co/vrNxfYWgnB
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
re: #140 Belafon
View everything they say and do in terms of gaining power, not what’s good for the country. Once you do that, it all makes sense: There are no contradictions if power is your ultimate goal. While the system was set up to have different sides compete to gain power, they were supposed to be patriotic enough not to sell it for a few pieces of silver. This is where the GOP fails.
Exactly. We are not dealing with a typical good intention American that wanted to be president. Far from it.
We have an orange mold growing in the White House that is out to get money or to pay back money. Power and continued business.
re: #143 KGxvi
Maybe my outlook is too long term, then, because I don’t see how selling out to a hostile adversary helps me secure power beyond the end of next week. What good is having power if gaining it means weakening American standing internationally (meaning you have less power)? What good is having power if gaining it means that the system/society/economy you seek to control is weakened by outside forces?
This is the sheep mortgaging the fields to the wolves. Any short term gain you might think you have is clearly outweighed by the eventual fuckedupness you’re going to experience.
It’s the Trump Cult, KG. They don’t look much further ahead than the next news cycle.
re: #29 Stanley Sea
Obviously, the Mercers are trying to corner the asshole market. Anyone needing an asshole will have to buy from them!
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 13, 2017
re: #141 Charles Johnson
Tomorrow before leaving for a weekend of golf: So what if this meeting was about HRC?! I’m President. I won. Get over it.
I’m going to need a new cup of coffee, since the old one just came flying out of my nose.https://t.co/fc0aLoGrUk
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) July 13, 2017
What the fuck did I just read?
President Trump offers a vivid example of someone on our side of the wall being killed by a falling, 60-lbs. bag of heroin pic.twitter.com/AH4XpV4Y28
— Katherine Miller (@katherinemiller) July 13, 2017
re: #146 FormerDirtDart
“Ok but these emails are from months, maybe even years ago, right?
What’s that, they’re from THIS WEEK?”
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US senator from Canada Ted Cruise promises sick and injured workers “quicker and more painless” death under revised health and medical law. pic.twitter.com/z3NMrY5n9x
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) July 13, 2017
re: #146 FormerDirtDart
I will admit, as a lawyer, often my first draft of many, many responses is somewhere along the lines of “fuck you and the horse you rode in on.” But when I have that reaction, I always think of the immortal words of Herm Edwards:
DON’T PRESS SEND
Thread:
1/ Hold on. We have some emails to share.
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
Kasowitz is fucked up. A few tweets below, but read the whole thing.
4/ Here’s that email: pic.twitter.com/fv4hul3EJl
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
6/ We’re publishing the whole thread here. We’ve confirmed their authenticity.
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
10/ But Kasowitz continued to harangue him: pic.twitter.com/OHI2eF2ZKj
— ProPublica (@ProPublica) July 13, 2017
re: #157 KGxvi
I will admit, as a lawyer, often my first draft of many, many responses is somewhere along the lines of “fuck you and the horse you rode in on.” But when I have that reaction, I always think of the immortal words of Herm Edwards:
DON’T PRESS SEND
I don’t think this is limited to lawyers.
The number of comments I have not hit post on over the years is impressive.
Finally: a competent spokesperson. pic.twitter.com/YYopQr4FDh
— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) July 13, 2017
tell me this isn’t another case of nepotism from this administration…
— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) July 13, 2017
re: #157 KGxvi
I will admit, as a lawyer, often my first draft of many, many responses is somewhere along the lines of “fuck you and the horse you rode in on.” But when I have that reaction, I always think of the immortal words of Herm Edwards:
DON’T PRESS SEND
I have learned not to fill in the To: field until I’ve had time to proofread my emails and if I’m angry, gotten a second opinion. I find the cursor stays above where I click “New message” and just happens to be above “Send” while I’m writing…so the To: field is the last thing I do anymore.
Pro Publica:
Since the story was published, his spokesman issued a statement disputing several parts of the story: “Marc Kasowitz has not struggled with alcoholism,” Sitrick wrote. “He has not come into the office intoxicated, attorneys have not had to go across the street to the restaurant during the workday to consult Kasowitz on work matters.”
Who among us, etc.
re: #158 darthstar
Thread:
Ivanka: Dad, let’s make sure we don’t have any email problems ourselves. Everyone on our team needs to be extra careful about what we send electronically.
DJT: Hold my beer….
re: #143 KGxvi
Maybe my outlook is too long term, then, because I don’t see how selling out to a hostile adversary helps me secure power beyond the end of next week. What good is having power if gaining it means weakening American standing internationally (meaning you have less power)? What good is having power if gaining it means that the system/society/economy you seek to control is weakened by outside forces?
This is the sheep mortgaging the fields to the wolves. Any short term gain you might think you have is clearly outweighed by the eventual fuckedupness you’re going to experience.
I think the second part of the story is that these GOP goons don’t really believe their own thousand-year Reich stories about how they can stay in power indefinitely. So the power they seized is transitory and their plan is apparently to loot as much as they can as fast as they can during this opportunity.
All the best people. Yeah right. Cream of the crop scum.
re: #162 FormerDirtDart
Not qualified…the kid hasn’t learned out to lie yet.
re: #168 darthstar
Not qualified…the kid hasn’t learned out to lie yet.
She doesn’t care if anyone sees her pee tape….
re: #161 Teukka
Is it just me, or is the dude a wee bit rattled?
That’s his style. In NYC he’s known as a ‘bulldog.’ Trump loves the fact that he’s a bullying asshole.
re: #166 EPR-radar
I think the second part of the story is that these GOP goons don’t really believe their own thousand-year Reich stories about how they can stay in power indefinitely. So the power they seized is transitory and their plan is to apparently loot as much as they can as fast as they can during this opportunity.
They definitely have that “Après nous, le déluge” tendency.
re: #163 darthstar
I have learned not to fill in the To: field until I’ve had time to proofread my emails and if I’m angry, gotten a second opinion. I find the cursor stays above where I click “New message” and just happens to be above “Send” while I’m writing…so the To: field is the last thing I do anymore.
Great idea
re: #164 jaunte
Pro Publica:
Who among us, etc.
All good lawyers keep a bottle in their bottom drawer, and if they’re a partner, they just have a full set up in their office.
They don’t call it “the bar” for nothing.
re: #170 makeitstop
That’s his style. In NYC he’s known as a ‘bulldog.’ Trump loves the fact that he’s a bullying asshole.
In fact, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the latest woman who went public with sexual harassment charges against Trump ended up dropping it because of emails from Kasowitz. Remember she cited ‘threats?’ There you go.
re: #162 FormerDirtDart
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I’m probably just in a bad mood, but I don’t think it’s cute or funny. It’s total pandering for “awwws.” Fuck Ivanka.
re: #163 darthstar
I have learned not to fill in the To: field until I’ve had time to proofread my emails and if I’m angry, gotten a second opinion.
That’s my general strategy. If a client annoys me, I vent my spleen in a blank Word doc first, then open Outlook (which I’m doomed to use at work) and leave everything in the To: and CC: spaces blank until I’ve rewritten my rant in a more civilized manner. Then I have it double checked by my boss before I send it off. Saves me lots of headaches that way.
re: #170 makeitstop
That’s his style. In NYC he’s known as a ‘bulldog.’ Trump loves the fact that he’s a bullying asshole.
Seems to be his typical hire. I guess his “best people” are all bullies and they provide Donny with the testosterone he lacks himself.
They really are a crime family.
The Sopranos Trumps
re: #178 ObserverArt
Seems to be his typical hire. I guess his “best people” are all bullies and they provide Donny with the testosterone he lacks himself.
They really are a crime family.
The
SopranosTrumps
The GOPranos.
(Except Tony would have pitched most of this crew into the ocean for being incompetent.)
Oregon State Police: Eel truck overturns on Hwy 101, covers road in slime https://t.co/JTyRwxreq4 pic.twitter.com/USt3xI5rB1
— KATU News (@KATUNews) July 13, 2017
re: #123 b.d.
I guess we don’t need to ask Mr. Gorka what Russia is giving us?
That’s Doctor Gorka…..
Instead, Trump is doing it for him like a good puppet.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 13, 2017
Elephant swept out to sea off the coast of Sri Lanka saved by members of Sri Lankan Navy during a six-hour rescue. https://t.co/4VVOnl9A96 pic.twitter.com/YbxzoioFoa
— ABC News (@ABC) July 13, 2017
re: #181 darthstar
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re: #184 darthstar
Sure it’s Russia vs. USA, but the 800 lb gorilla in this particular room is nearly everyone in the GOP acting as stooges, Quislings, agents, spys, willing dupes and saboteurs aiding Russia.
The great causes used to justify this party-wide near-treason are: 1) tax cuts for the rich and 2) pissing off liberals.
re: #187 darthstar
And none of them seemed to want to cut the elephant’s tail off.
re: #189 jaunte
And none of them seemed to want to cut the elephant’s tail off.
It is one of the ways you can distinguish a good human from a trump.
re: #117 jaunte
Republicans are complicit in destroying the idea that we are a nation of laws.
Badges? We don’ need no stinking’ badges!
re: #191 Romantic Heretic
They were Sheriff’s badges!
He’s such a fucking crook
EXCLUSIVE: Donald Trump sues over taxable value of Jupiter golf club https://t.co/TYb33iWYT0 @jmartNYT @TalKopan @tarapalmeri @pbump
— Kristina Webb (@KristinaWebb) July 13, 2017
re: #185 jaunte
What a waste of time and money. A few rounds from a machine gun would have removed this intolerable nuisance at much less expense.
re: #193 Stanley Sea
He’s such a fucking crook
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Same shit he’s trying to pull up in Westchester County.
re: #186 Stanley Sea
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re: #195 BeachDem
Same shit he’s trying to pull up in Westchester County.
His financial disclosure is toilet paper.
re: #193 Stanley Sea
He’s such a fucking crook
Yep. That’s why my fondest hope is that when ‘follow the money’ get applied to tr*mp, the resulting mess will be so revolting it taints the entire GOP for several election cycles.
We hire students for analysis #internships specializing in cyber threats:
Undergrad: https://t.co/k6PQjaD8TM
Grad: https://t.co/VPMIMB6NN1— CIA (@CIA) July 13, 2017
JFC—they arrested Rev. Barber for protesting at fucking McConnell’s office.
Rev Barber being arrested.
Clear in march he was in deep pain from walking.
At end he called on all clergy 2 risk arrest over health bill pic.twitter.com/c2Y6WvVjs5— Jeff Stein (@JStein_Vox) July 13, 2017
re: #198 Stanley Sea
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I think we have a clue to what’s wrong with Trump; at some formative point in his life he was struck on the head by a 60 lb. bag of heroin.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #203 Charles Johnson
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He then snorted it thinking it was cocaine as Vincent Vega was taking a leak and giving himself a pep talk in the bathroom. Once Vincent realized tRump had snorted the heroin Mr. Vega took tRump to his dealers house where they “stabbed the OD’ing bitch in the heart” with syringe full of adrenaline while the dealer’s girlfriend peed on him.
All-in-all a good night for Dolt 45.
Edit.. typo
My goofy wife…yucking it up in Greece with our friends and their kids. Like Despoena off to see her father, Poseidon.
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More slime & eel shots
— Oregon State Police (@ORStatePolice) July 13, 2017
re: #154 Lidane
He’s preparing us for the fact that the wall is going to be a fence by bragging how transparent it will be, like his high quality son.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #154 Lidane
President Trump offers a vivid example of someone on our side of the wall being killed by a falling, 60-lbs. bag of heroin
His name was Jim.
Hours after Trump hails Xi, Spicer issues a statement on Liu Xiaobo. pic.twitter.com/Zav3FkHv8Z
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 13, 2017
re: #210 goddamnedfrank
As with many other subjects, Trump has no idea how drugs get into the country.
Thanks @OregonDOT pic.twitter.com/SmwHtWLeQ3
— Depoe Bay Fire Dist. (@DepoeBayFire) July 13, 2017
The opening shot of “Cloverfield Bay,” coming in 2019 https://t.co/7OJWwp9u7u
— Elliot Njus 🚦🏠 (@enjus) July 13, 2017
re: #204 CongoJack
He then snorted it thinking it was cocaine as Vincent Vega was taking a leak and giving himself a pep talk in the bathroom. Once Vincent realized tRump had snorted the heroin Mr. Vega took tRump to his dealers house where they “stabbed the OD’ing bitch in the heart” with syringe full of adrenaline while the dealer’s girlfriend peed on him.
All-in-all a good night for Dolt 45.
Edit.. typo
The good old days for tr*mp, when he was young enough that his Caligula-grade debauchery didn’t instantly kill him.
re: #106 KGxvi
This is the same party that had a nominee 5 years ago who said Russia was our number one geopolitical adversary. This is a party that drove the anti-communist agenda for the better part of a century. This is the party who is supposedly hawkish on foreign policy.
What in the utter fuck is going on?
The GOP has sold what is left of its, flinty, coal-black soul to the devil (Putin/Russia) to get control of the WH and Congress (and, by extension, SCOTUS) in order to kill every bit of social progress and protections made over the past century.
To quote St. Bruce of Asbury Park, they made a “last-chance power drive”…and it worked; now, the GOP is in another race to bulldoze as much of their regressive policies before Trump makes it where absolutely there’s no choice but for him to be out of the WH.
re: #209 FormerDirtDart
“…My dad would get pissed out of his brain every single night,
and when the telly finished he’d storm out of the house like a lunatic
to get to the Eel and Pie shop before it closed.
He’d come home with enough for an army.
I never liked the eels, just the pies and mash, and the liquor.
My friend Dave said that eels live on sewage.
My dad must be full of it, he used to eat five bleeding cartons of eels a day.”
— Pete Townshend
And another thing I like about France’s President Macron…besides the fact that his English is better than Trump’s…When he says Putin, he pronouces it poutine…like he’s a cheesy fried food drowned in gravy.
The RudePundit hits another one out of the park rudepundit.blogspot.com
Why spend so much time on someone who ought to be busy convincing people to buy time shares while yelling at his grandkids about the “coloreds”? Because King’s brand of dumb cruelty is the same as the driving force behind the revised Republican health care bill in the Senate, which manages to be crueler and dumber than the House version. The putrid Ted Cruz’s putrid amendment would stick a meat hook into the Affordable Care Act’s insurance guarantees and rip them open until their guts are steaming on the ground while Cruz yowls as he jacks off into the gore. The Medicaid cuts are essentially Mitch McConnell saying, “Fuck you” to the so-called moderate senators, daring them to defy him, the party, and Trump, in that order, daring them to stare into his dead amphibian eyes and have their souls sucked away.
Hey they’re only a bunch of 30 something adults with management positions in a billion dollar company, you can’t expect them to know things!
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
Tomorrow: OK, Trump knew it was about Hillary, but so what?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
I want the ultimate excuse for the Trumps.
Just say you are not good enough for the job. You can’t handle it as you were not prepared as you admit…pack your bags and leave the White House.
Might I suggest permanent residence in Russia.
Knothnxbai
re: #222 goddamnedfrank
The only qualification that bunch of 30 something adults has for their management positions in that supposedly billion dollar company is the ability to fellate tr*mp so expertly as to make tr*mp feel like his prostate is coming out his dick hole.
It apparently needs to be said that this is not actually a good way to pick people for management positions in companies, whether or not they are actually billion dollar companies.
re: #218 jaunte
“…My dad would get pissed out of his brain every single night,
and when the telly finished he’d storm out of the house like a lunatic
to get to the Eel and Pie shop before it closed.
He’d come home with enough for an army.
I never liked the eels, just the pies and mash, and the liquor.
My friend Dave said that eels live on sewage.
My dad must be full of it, he used to eat five bleeding cartons of eels a day.”
— Pete Townshend
I like the way eel is prepared in Japan, but I doubt I’d eat it more than once a year.
Truck of eels overturns on US 101, dousing sedan with slithering sea creatures. @Jimryan015 delivers the gooooo-ds. https://t.co/nNs3X6oZTd pic.twitter.com/wrqXY0Txdq
— Andre Meunier (@AndreMeunier13) July 13, 2017
And you thought you were having a bad day. https://t.co/jnaRSNlc53
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
I believe that John Bush, a nominee to 6th Circuit, is unsuitable to serve on U.S. Court of Appeals. More from @senjudiciary hearing today: pic.twitter.com/UQEMAG0AZz
— Sen. Al Franken (@SenFranken) July 13, 2017
Al Franken, pushing back against the nomination of racist birther John Bush.
So I Googled Trump + windows to make this Twitter gag
‘Our windows are a high quality window and I applaud their transparency’
- Donald J. Trump pic.twitter.com/KxesM711pC— gocart mozart (@HarryTuttle11) July 13, 2017
Is this one of Trump’s China trademark companies?
trumpchina.en.alibaba.com
The Strange Civil Rights Views of Trump’s Latest Court Nominees
politico.com
“…Bush is shocking in his blatant disdain for equal rights and animus toward racial and other minorities. While blogging under a pseudonym in 2008, Bush invoked Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to attack women’s reproductive rights. In a post titled “The Legacy from Dr. King’s Dream That Liberals Ignore,” Bush joined Newsom in comparing Dred Scott to Roe (both “relied on similar reasoning and activist justices”), and wrote that “slavery and abortion” are the “two greatest tragedies in our country.” In his Senate questionnaire, he dismissively referred to the brutal 1993 beating of Rodney King by Los Angeles police officers as a “police encounter.” In another blog post, he brushed aside the discriminatory effects of voter ID laws. Bush has also said that a landmark Supreme Court ruling protecting the freedom of the press was wrongly decided, a view disturbingly convenient for a president who incessantly attacks the media. Perhaps most troubling about Bush, though, is what he hasn’t voiced: In forms filed with the U.S. Senate, Bush failed to disclose—as required by Senate Judiciary Committee rules—that a Louisville social club to which he belongs had a long history of excluding African-Americans, women and Jews.”
re: #223 Charles Johnson
FAKE NEWS!!!!! IT’S ALL FAKE NEWS!!!!!
.@ericbolling: None of the Russia Collusion ‘Bombshells’ Are Panning Outhttps://t.co/QNfSXn4Jzy
— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 13, 2017
re: #230 jaunte
The Strange Civil Rights Views of Trump’s Latest Court Nominees
politico.com
He seems nice … (no).
I want Mueller to hurry up, but I do understand the need for care and completeness (you only get one shot at something like this). It did take over two years to oust Nixon.
When this is all over, I sincerely hope that the stink sticks to the GOP for a generation (or better yet, they go the way of the Whigs). The recent state elections in NH, NY, and OK (4 for 4 for the Dems in GOP legislature seats) does add some hope here, along with thousands stepping forward to run for offices across the nation.
Hayes whole tweetstorm here is worth a read.
No one ever tells Trump “Aras and Emin said the Russian government wants to try to get you elected, but then we had this weird meeting” 13/x
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 13, 2017
This story is obviously false, but is it even really a pretense? It’s like “Mexico will pay for the wall.” Everyone knows that’s false, too. https://t.co/etOt92o5Df
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 13, 2017
This is the core thing. People don’t care about foreign interference bc they hate the domestic opposition more than hostile foreign powers.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 13, 2017
There are various institutions in the D party that prevent this sort of stuff. But Dem voters are not that institution.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 13, 2017
re: #231 The Vicious Babushka
FAKE NEWS!!!!! IT’S ALL FAKE NEWS!!!!!
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Trump is going to resign in disgrace and half of his base won’t realize he isn’t President anymore until they ask why he isn’t running for reelection.
re: #235 darthstar
Trump is going to resign in disgrace and half of his base won’t realize he isn’t President anymore until they ask why he isn’t running for reelection.
If a resignation was coming, you can bet FOX, Sinclair, Christian hate radio, and everyone else in the Republican propaganda arm would make sure to let them know “liberals” did it.
re: #235 darthstar
Trump will never resign. His ego won’t let him.
re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg
I can’t believe Trumps people think you can edit your security disclosures and it will all be okay.
This isn’t a misspelled word on a Tweet, it is a CRIME to lie on those forms.
When you own the congress and the department of Justice, it is not a crime. Laws only apply to the other people.
The world owes a debt of gratitude to @maggieNYT for this facinating/entertaining transcript becoming public: https://t.co/OZIKiqbTl3
— Michael Barbaro (@mikiebarb) July 13, 2017
I started reading this but had to stop because I could feel my IQ points diminishing with every tortured sentence. https://t.co/mWpvnt2b3A
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 13, 2017
re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White
I think Barro is WAY off the mark here. I mean, Hillary struggled because she’d given speeches to AMERICAN bankers. And the Right had already expressed the desire to replace our democratically elected, but black President with a former KGB spook who took over Russia and kills critics and political opponents.
I mean, WAY too many Lefties fell under the spell of Hugo Chavez early on, but I don’t think any of them posted pics of him and said, “Why can’t we have HIM instead of Bush?”
re: #239 Charles Johnson
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How many brain cells do you reckon got pulverized?
— Teo (@Teukka72) July 13, 2017
The latest version of #Trumpcare is here and it’s just as bad as all the other ones. pic.twitter.com/Qsz2dbUcV8
— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) July 13, 2017
re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White
Hayes Barro is right that this cuts both ways. Voting against Republicans is the only reason I bother to vote, and in the hypothetical case of a (D) presidential candidate with messy foreign entanglements, I’d vote for the (D) and hope for the best with the resulting PR damage.
re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump will never resign. His ego won’t let him.
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
re: #243 EPR-radar
Hayes is right that this cuts both ways. Voting against Republicans is the only reason I both to vote, and in the hypothetical case of a (D) presidential candidate with messy foreign entanglements, I’d vote for the (D) and hope for the best with the resulting PR damage.
(I think you mean Barro)
re: #243 EPR-radar
Hayes is right that this cuts both ways. Voting against Republicans is the only reason I both to vote, and in the hypothetical case of a (D) presidential candidate with messy foreign entanglements, I’d vote for the (D) and hope for the best with the resulting PR damage.
I just hope in the next election I don’t have to turn in a ballot that is entirely blank except for President and Vice-President. (In the last election, those were the only non-R candidates on my ballot, other than a Libertarian running for state treasurer.)
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
In handcuffs. With just his underwear. And a gimp mask.
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
Change the locks while he’s off at his golf club.
BREAKING STORY: Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers, died in suicide https://t.co/y4rY66tj6f
— Katherine Skiba (@KatherineSkiba) July 13, 2017
LOL. He was in the process of leaking his involvment in Russian interference on Trump’s behalf to the WSJ.
— Frankly My Dear 🐁 (@goddamnedfrank) July 13, 2017
re: #249 The Vicious Babushka
Change the locks while he’s off at his golf club.
Asset forfeiture (from subsequent criminal charges). Hit him where it really hurts.
re: #243 EPR-radar
Hayes is right that this cuts both ways. Voting against Republicans is the only reason I both to vote, and in the hypothetical case of a (D) presidential candidate with messy foreign entanglements, I’d vote for the (D) and hope for the best with the resulting PR damage.
Assuming the foreign entanglements came out during the campaign, my guess is the party would find a way to jettison the nominee (assuming post convention; pre-convention, I’m guessing enough voters/superdelegates would reject that candidate).
If it came out after inauguration, I suspect the intra-party pressure would be enough to get that person to resign before facing impeachment. But that’s what happens when you have a party that isn’t scared of its base/nominee/shadow.
re: #250 goddamnedfrank
Well shit. This could be the first convenient death for the tr*mp/Putin cover-up.
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
He did once “voluntarily” resign from one of his companies… in the midst of bankruptcy, as a condition of the company not being completely liquidated. So… yeah?
re: #252 KGxvi
Assuming the foreign entanglements came out during the campaign, my guess is the party would find a way to jettison the nominee (assuming post convention; pre-convention, I’m guessing enough voters/superdelegates would reject that candidate).
If it came out after inauguration, I suspect the intra-party pressure would be enough to get that person to resign before facing impeachment. But that’s what happens when you have a party that isn’t scared of its base/nominee/shadow.
Yes, I think this is pretty much what Barro had in mind by saying that there are other mechanisms by which the Democratic party could rid itself of an unacceptable candidate or President.
Edited to add: This all depends on the Democrats being reality based, while the entire Republicans party runs on nothing but lies and willful delusion.
re: #252 KGxvi
well the Dems apparently have ethics in regards to their candidates, for examples, see:
Hart, Gary
Edwards, John
1/ Here is a summary of what happened on #immigration today.
Buckle down, because it a lot.— Juan Escalante (@JuanSaaa) July 12, 2017
12/ So in light of today’s news, and trust me that this was an abbreviated summary, we must not tire or feel defeated. We must FIGHT.
— Juan Escalante (@JuanSaaa) July 12, 2017
Rebecca’s not happy with Mr. Trump’s display with Mrs. Macron today:
Trump Grabs French First Lady’s Arm by Pussy then Pervs All Over Her. Diplomacy! (goes to Wonkette)
These fucking guys.
2 .1 billion people in the United States lack access to safe drinking water.https://t.co/Wmtdv4PJ2F
— The Young Turks (@TheYoungTurks) July 13, 2017
re: #255 EPR-radar
Yes, I think this is pretty much what Barro had in mind by saying that there are other mechanisms by which the Democratic party could rid itself of an unacceptable candidate or President.
I’m still really amazed that the GOP establishment (elected officials, party leaders, etc) haven’t turned on him. They’ve got one of their own in Pence, and they have to know, on some level, that their base isn’t actually going anywhere. Worst case scenario, the base stays home one cycle, Democrats win big, and the GOP base gets pissed off again and turns out the following cycle to stop the commie pinko libs from ruining Murka. They really don’t owe Trump anything - they lost ground in Congress with him on the ticket (six seats in the House, 2 in the Senate). They’d still have working majorities in both houses with Pence as president, and we’ve seen them ignore the idea of political capital when they control Congress and the White House… so it really just makes no sense to me.
re: #247 Ace Rothstein
In handcuffs. With just his underwear. And a gimp mask.
Nononono. FBI Raid on the WH.
re: #260 goddamnedfrank
Hordes of machete-weilding Hottentots are invading over the Southern Border. Total US population at several billion and increasing, at least 90% illegal!!!!!!
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
I’d pay big bucks to see that on PPV.
re: #262 Teukka
Nononono. FBI Raid on the WH.
Secret Service removing Trump when newly sworn in President Pence enters the White House in order to protect the president.
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
I do, however, insist upon live coverage on all networks.
re: #261 KGxvi
I’m still really amazed that the GOP establishment (elected officials, party leaders, etc) haven’t turned on him. They’ve got one of their own in Pence, and they have to know, on some level, that their base isn’t actually going anywhere. Worst case scenario, the base stays home one cycle, Democrats win big, and the GOP base gets pissed off again and turns out the following cycle to stop the commie pinko libs from ruining Murka. They really don’t owe Trump anything - they lost ground in Congress with him on the ticket (six seats in the House, 2 in the Senate). They’d still have working majorities in both houses with Pence as president, and we’ve seen them ignore the idea of political capital when they control Congress and the White House… so it really just makes no sense to me.
The only way I can see sense in this from a realpolitik point of view is that perhaps the GOP base wouldn’t just sulk for one election if their Voice and God-Emperor is given the boot by Republicans. If instead it would cause the long-awaited GOP civil war, they may think they have no choice but to try to make tr*mp work out somehow.
Senate Republicans (again) insert provision into healthcare wealthcare for billionaires law that exempts members of Congress: It requires that Congressional coverage includes essential health benefits (while taking that away from everyone else).
re: #260 goddamnedfrank
These fucking guys.
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I mean, they did sort of prove in the primaries that math was not their strong suit so I guess this isn’t surprising?
re: #261 KGxvi
I’m still really amazed that the GOP establishment (elected officials, party leaders, etc) haven’t turned on him. They’ve got one of their own in Pence, and they have to know, on some level, that their base isn’t actually going anywhere. Worst case scenario, the base stays home one cycle, Democrats win big, and the GOP base gets pissed off again and turns out the following cycle to stop the commie pinko libs from ruining Murka. They really don’t owe Trump anything - they lost ground in Congress with him on the ticket (six seats in the House, 2 in the Senate). They’d still have working majorities in both houses with Pence as president, and we’ve seen them ignore the idea of political capital when they control Congress and the White House… so it really just makes no sense to me.
Recall it was reported when the DNC was hacked, so was the RNC. That information about the RNC was not released. Blackmail is an excellent way to keep a politician bought.
Moreover, if they are tied to the Russia business by more than studiously trying to ignore it, they go down with him.
That’s why.
re: #264 MsJ
I’d pay big bucks to see that on PPV.
If I were obscenely wealthy, I’d commission a nuclear powered interstellar probe having video of tr*mp’s ejection from the white house on endless loop as proof that we got at least one thing right on this planet.
NYT: Trump tells aides “I think this is getting better.”
re: #272 Ace Rothstein
NYT: Trump tells aides “I think this is getting better.”
Fox keeps telling him that nothing is coming of the investigation.
Guy on steemit.com is challenging people to provide a photo of the far side of the Moon, taken from the Earth’s surface.
The comments are distressing to this science teacher. You will see my comment if you follow the link.
re: #256 MsJ
There’s a little doggie at the rear end under the license plate.
Weird.
Ooh…slimy puppy face.
re: #272 Ace Rothstein
NYT: Trump tells aides “I think this is getting better.”
Yo, POTUS von Cocksplat:
It has been a while since the last love note from yours truly.
It seems that you are more delusional than usual today, in believing the worst of your scandals may be over.
Let me help you to dispense with these delusions. Like most rich assholes, you are very good at forgetting that money for rich assholes invariably comes from more or less criminal acts. Unfortunately for you, your personal finances are going to be audited and investigated in a way that has never been done before. Real estate crooks in your line of work know what to expect from the IRS, so this would be nothing like the perpetual IRS audit you’ve been dorking around with for decades.
Instead this is going to be a criminal and counter-intelligence investigation into you, your campaign and your finances, and I don’t think anyone is going to like what they see when that cesspool is dredged up.
May you enjoy blood blisters on both thumbs from impotent rage-tweeting as your despicable personal empire crashes down around your ears.
re: #274 wheat-dogg
Guy on steemit.com is challenging people to provide a photo of the far side of the Moon, taken from the Earth’s surface.
The comments are distressing to this science teacher. You will see my comment if you follow the link.
Ugh. That’s a perfect example of being “not even wrong” with respect to a technical issue.
re: #274 wheat-dogg
Guy on steemit.com is challenging people to provide a photo of the far side of the Moon, taken from the Earth’s surface.
The comments are distressing to this science teacher. You will see my comment if you follow the link.
Never heard of steemit, but after taking a look it seems like a pyramid scheme for trolls.
re: #278 EPR-radar
Ugh. That’s a perfect example of being “not even wrong” with respect to a technical issue.
inorite? I could excuse the question if it came from a gradeschooler, but coming from an adult, it shows he has a serious hole in his education. The comment about “how can we see the Moon in the day while others can see it at night at the same time?” floored me.
When I taught this concept in class, I used a tennis ball for the Moon and a basketball for the Earth and a bright light in a dark room, because 2D diagrams in textbooks just don’t click with 9th graders.
re: #278 EPR-radar
Ugh. That’s a perfect example of being “not even wrong” with respect to a technical issue.
Sort of like taking a photo of a basketball’s back side. Babbage’s “not even wrong” statement certainly applies.
re: #274 wheat-dogg
Guy on steemit.com is challenging people to provide a photo of the far side of the Moon, taken from the Earth’s surface.
The comments are distressing to this science teacher. You will see my comment if you follow the link.
Gaaa. You know they’re going to troll your answer, because it contains facts and stuff.
re: #279 KingKenrod
Never heard of steemit, but after taking a look it seems like a pyramid scheme for trolls.
I’ve found it less trollish than Reddit, but still full of libertarians and woo-woo types who have only a loose connection to reality. I doubt it’s a pyramid scheme, but there are certain aspects of the remuneration scheme that are a little bothersome. For one, if you buy a lot of Steem Power and hold it, your upvotes (and influence) are substantially higher. Plus you make more on your posts.
A lot of the posts are just links to YouTube videos other people have done, but there are some decent writers, artists and photographers posting there, too.
As with anything, Sturgeon’s Law applies.
House Panel Rejects Push to Revoke Kushner’s Security Clearance
thehill.com
More:
The House Appropriations Committee on Thursday rejected two amendments to a key spending bill intended to revoke the security clearance of President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner.
One of the amendments to the Commerce, Justice and Science Appropriations Bill, introduced by Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), would bar funds from being used “to issue, renew, or maintain a security clearance for any individual in a position in the Executive Office of the President who is under a criminal investigation by a Federal law enforcement agency for aiding a foreign government.” The amendment failed in a 22-30 vote.
The second amendment was aimed at revoking the security clearance of White House staffers who deliberately fail to disclose meetings with foreign nationals or governments on their questionnaire for national security positions. The committee also rejected the amendment 22-30.
Wasserman Schultz argued that the amendments were necessary for safeguarding the country’s most sensitive national security information.
But Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) called the amendments a “political stunt” and that security clearance decisions should be left to security professionals.
“The use of funding prohibitions to deny or remove security clearances is just simply a political stunt and unnecessary, because security clearances can already be denied or revoked because criminal conduct,” he said.
re: #282 Anymouse 🌹
Gaaa. You know they’re going to troll your answer, because it contains facts and stuff.
I think we all remember the grade-school morons who would lash out in slope-browed stupidity and malice at any perceive ‘egghead’ in the class who actually knew anything.
The tr*mp administration and the GOP as a whole is full of the willfully stupid and malicious adults those grade-school bullies grew up to become.
re: #281 Anymouse 🌹
Sort of like taking a photo of a basketball’s back side. Babbage’s “not even wrong” statement certainly applies.
I’m not sure why he thinks it’s even possible. We’ve been observing the Moon for thousands of years, and never seen but one side of it.
re: #286 wheat-dogg
I’m not sure why he thinks it’s even possible. We’ve been observing the Moon for thousands of years, and never seen but one side of it.
Until space travel, of course. Is the context for these idiots some kind of flat earther bullshit where all the space images are fakes, including the pictures of the far side of the moon?
re: #287 EPR-radar
Until space travel, of course. Is the context for these idiots some kind of flat earther bullshit where all the space images are fakes, including the pictures of the far side of the moon?
I’ll soon find out. I shared an Apollo 16 photo of the far side of the Moon just now.
re: #286 wheat-dogg
I’m not sure why he thinks it’s even possible. We’ve been observing the Moon for thousands of years, and never seen but one side of it.
Perhaps he teaches the controversial position that the Moon only has one side.
re: #289 Decatur Deb
Perhaps he teaches the controversial position that the Moon only has one side.
There’s no limit once you go full flat earther. Perhaps they think the moon is a cardboard disk with craters drawn only on the side facing earth.
re: #288 wheat-dogg
I’ll soon find out. I shared an Apollo 16 photo of the far side of the Moon just now.
He accepted it, so I don’t know what his deal is. Maybe he’s just stoned or something.
Maybe I’ll just flood the thread with shitloads of backside of the moon pix.
re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump will never resign. His ego won’t let him.
Ego is a funny thing. If faced with actual impeachment he might resign as a statement that he is too good for all of us and so he is taking his game and going home.
And then there will be years of him moaning about how American blew it by not allowing him to make America Great Again and we are all sad losers.
re: #291 EPR-radar
There’s no limit once you go full flat earther. Perhaps they think the moon is a cardboard disk with craters drawn only on the side facing earth.
That will be in the 5th grade curriculum of DeVos’ Uncommon Core.
re: #292 wheat-dogg
He accepted it, so I don’t know what his deal is. Maybe he’s just stoned or something.
Maybe I’ll just flood the thread with shitloads of backside of the moon pix.
So it’s a moon. Prove it’s our Moon.
re: #294 Decatur Deb
That will be in the 5th grade curriculum of DeVos’ Uncommon Core.
I shudder to imagine what the DeVos family understands about celestial mechanics.
re: #296 wheat-dogg
I shudder to imagine what the DeVos family understands about celestial mechanics.
It depends upon the Hate that moves the Sun and other stars.
re: #295 Decatur Deb
So it’s a moon. Prove it’s our Moon.
yeah, I’m waiting for that.
But as I said, Steemit seems to have fewer trolls than Reddit, because it’s not easy to sign up for an account. There’s a waiting period, or you can pay a little bitcoins to buy an account. Spammers and scammers are shut down pretty fast.
re: #250 goddamnedfrank
Katherine Skiba @KatherineSkiba
BREAKING STORY: Peter W. Smith, GOP operative who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers, died in suicide fw.to
6:11 PM - 13 Jul 2017
Whoa.
I bet Alex Jones is all over this one.
Fixing air-conditioning is, let’s face it, not the most exciting solution to climate change.Perhaps for the same reason that remodeling a kitchen is more enticing than replacing a water heater, devising greener refrigerant chemicals will never make headlines like solar installations or electric cars do. You just can’t take a great selfie with the inside of an air-conditioner.
But fixing how we cool ourselves may also help fix the climate. New research from the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California indicates that adding improved efficiency in refrigeration and phasing out fluorinated gases used for cooling, as mandated by international agreement, could eliminate a full degree Celsius of warming by 2100. Given that the “business as usual” trajectory leads to 4 to 5 degrees Celsius of warming, that is shaving off a pretty big slice.
re: #288 wheat-dogg
I’ll soon find out. I shared an Apollo 16 photo of the far side of the Moon just now.
And you’ve made a friend.
re: #296 wheat-dogg
I shudder to imagine what the DeVos family understands about celestial mechanics.
re: #304 wheat-dogg
with a bot, I suspect
Or just a dumb, friendly person, which beats dumb aggressive people.
— Christopher Brown (@NB_Chris) July 13, 2017
Texas getting more Medieval on its own ass.
re: #300 Anymouse 🌹
Here’s a valuable 21st Cent. airconditioning DIY tip: The new little window units do not drain condensate from a little weep hole. Throwing the condensate around the coils is part of the energy efficiency magic. The coils are VERY close to the skin of the unit, and a surgeon’s skill with a power drill would be needed to make a tiny hole to improve drainage.
Also: You can get a nice replacement unit (5000 btu) for only $129.
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This is the stupidest Fox News freakout you will see all day==>
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— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 13, 2017
re: #297 Decatur Deb
It depends upon the Hate that moves the Sun and other stars.
I do public astronomy. One of the constants I hear from the general public, is absolute amazement at the fact that the earth (with them on it) is moving. I use a telescope without a motor drive to compensate for the earth’s rotation so they can see objects moving in the field of view. When people invariably say “I see it moving”, I explain that they are the ones doing most of the moving. AMAZEBALLS!
Then there are the ones that think NASA schedules the positions of everything in the sky…
re: #309 HypnoToad
I do public astronomy. One of the constants I hear from the general public, is absolute amazement at the fact that the earth (with them on it) is moving. I use a telescope without a motor drive to compensate for the earth’s rotation so they can see objects moving in the field of view. When people invariably say “I see it moving”, I explain that they are the ones doing most of the moving. AMAZEBALLS!
Then there are the ones that think NASA schedules the positions of everything in the sky…
Eppur, si muove
From the NYT transcript of Trump’s remarks:
On North Korea, China, and trade:
THE PRESIDENT: A big thing we have with China was, if they could help us with North Korea, that would be great. They have pressures that are tough pressures, and I understand. And you know, don’t forget, China, over the many years, has been at war with Korea — you know, wars with Korea. It’s not like, oh, gee, you just do whatever we say. They’ve had numerous wars with Korea.
They have an 8,000 year culture. So when they see 1776 — to them, that’s like a modern building. The White House was started — was essentially built in 1799. To us, that’s really old. To them, that’s like a super modern building, right? So, you know, they’ve had tremendous conflict over many, many centuries with Korea. So it’s not just like, you do this. But we’re going to find out what happens.
Completely ignorant, need I say it?
China’s last war with Korea was what we call the Korean War. Before that, it was when Japan occupied Korea (and later China). Any wars before that happened during the European Middle Ages, and involved China, Japan and Korea.
And the commonly accepted age of Chinese civilization is 5,000 years, even in China.
re: #266 makeitstop
I do, however, insist upon live coverage on all networks.
Are you kidding? After what the media has done for the last two plus years it will be hard to find a TV Network not covering it. It will be on 24 hours with specials done for every network. The grungy side of things for Tru TV, Discovery doing reality shows around the staff. History doing comparisons to Watergate.
re: #290 The Vicious Babushka
I fired that over to my wife the ex-Libertarian for her viewing pleasure later. (We have never seen Game of Thrones, but she has seen plenty of Libertarian BS)
re: #244 EPR-radar
Even if he’s impeached and convicted, they would have to physically drag him out of the white house.
I have no problem with this scenario, at all.
re: #307 Decatur Deb
Here’s a valuable 21st Cent. airconditioning DIY tip: The new little window units do not drain condensate from a little weep hole. Throwing the condensate around the coils is part of the energy efficiency magic. The coils are VERY close to the skin of the unit, and a surgeon’s skill with a power drill would be needed to make a tiny hole to improve drainage.
Also: You can get a nice replacement unit (5000 btu) for only $129.
Yup. I have a window unit like that which cost about $100 or so - it cools my whole house. (Depending on the humidity, we will alternate with an indoor swamp cooler.)
re: #315 Anymouse 🌹
Yup. I have a window unit like that which cost about $100 or so - it cools my whole house. (Depending on the humidity, we will alternate with an indoor swamp cooler.)
Our new, drill-free unit is just to cool an ancient 8X16 camping trailer, but without New Testament insulation and considering our 100 degree/95 humidity environment, that’s asking a lot.
Noisy little bugger.
re: #311 wheat-dogg
From the NYT transcript of Trump’s remarks:
Completely ignorant, need I say it?
China’s last war with Korea was what we call the Korean War. Before that, it was when Japan occupied Korea (and later China). Any wars before that happened during the European Middle Ages, and involved China, Japan and Korea.
And the commonly accepted age of Chinese civilization is 5,000 years, even in China.
One thing a lot of people don’t get is that the North Koreans also have tremendous pride and aren’t always thrilled at being seen as China’s little brother or to be preached at by Beijing.