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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:08:44pm

Trump: Where is Puerto Rico?
Aide: *Points to Map* Here.
Trump: Does is have a Trump Hotel?
Aide: No, sir.
Trump: Looks about the right size for a hotel and resort.
Aide: But what about the natives?
Trump: We wait.

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Kragar  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:13:41pm
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:14:56pm

re: #2 Kragar

“Citizens of Rock Ridge!”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:16:07pm

re: #2 Kragar

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What a doofus.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:16:19pm

48,000 Puerto Ricans served in Vietnam. 335 died in combat. 18 were listed as MIA.
Meanwhile, Trump received five deferments for “bone spurs.” Now he has the power to decide if the families of those Puerto Rican veterans can get food and water.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:16:27pm

re: #2 Kragar

Oooooh, could he just shoot himself in his foot?

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:18:44pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

What a doofus.

The hat and gun go together. I think they and the vest come in a kit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:19:43pm

re: #5 jaunte

48,000 Puerto Ricans served in Vietnam. 335 died in combat. 18 were listed as MIA.
Meanwhile, Trump received five deferments for “bone spurs.” Now he has the power to decide if the families of those Puerto Rican veterans can get food and water.

They focused on one of those 335 on the documentary.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:19:57pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Did he rail against “godless Commies” too?

JFC…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:21:19pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

The hat and gun go together. I think they and the vest come in a kit.

It was $.99 on the toy rack at Duckwall’s when I was a kid.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:22:46pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It was $.99 on the toy rack at Duckwall’s when I was a kid.

I just didn’t know that Alabama was the Wild Wild West…

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:23:37pm

re: #11 retired cynic

It’s a state of mind that can fall on you in odd places. Like Milwaukee.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:23:40pm

re: #2 Kragar

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re: #3 jaunte

“Citizens of Rock Ridge!”

Taggart: I got it, I got it!
Hedley Lamarr: You do? What?
Taggart: We’ll work up a “Number 6” on ‘em!
Hedley Lamarr: “Number 6?” I’m afraid I’m not familiar with that one…
Taggart: Well, that’s where we go a-ridin’ into town, a-whoppin’ and a-whumpin’ every livin’ thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the womenfolks, of course.
Hedley Lamarr: You spare the women?
Taggart: Naw, we rape the shit out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on!
Hedley Lamarr: Marvelous!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:23:44pm

re: #2 Kragar

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And that’s why we want him to run against our candidate. Our chances might be as good as 1 in 30 if we run a solid campaign against a GOP idiot.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:24:08pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Ain’t you a bit old for dress-up, Roy?

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:26:58pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:32:15pm

It’s funny that (so far) the only thing that Trump has railed against that hasn’t become more popular is the GOP.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:32:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:32:40pm

Re: Puerto Rico/Katrina

For all the damage it wrought, Katrina only killed somewhere between 1300 and 1700 people. Considering the size of the populations it hit that’s a pretty low number.

The eventual toll from Maria I fear could be much worse.

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bratwurst  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:33:38pm

If you have a half hour to kill, you can spend it reading Dweezil Zappa’s latest update on his battle against his awful family & his revulsion at their money grubbing and downright creepy plan to put a hologram of their father on tour.

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Interesting Times  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:33:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:34:46pm

re: #2 Kragar

Video

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:36:46pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart

Video

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On my street, that’s called a “lady’s gun”.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:36:54pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

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It’s also a pretty obvious SNL skit.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:39:15pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

I bet it’s a Taurus “Judge.” He wouldn’t be able to resist buying one.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:41:42pm

GOP Face.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:41:52pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart

Video

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Wake me when he shoots himself.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:42:09pm

This is dereliction of duty.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:43:54pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

GOP Face.

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He looks like a film villain.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:43:55pm

From my ACM news:

The U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) reportedly has been forced by an international coalition of cryptography experts to back off from pressing the independent International Organization for Standardization (ISO) to globally standardize several data encryption methods amid suspicion among U.S. allies. Academic and industry specialists from Germany, Japan, Israel, and elsewhere are concerned NSA was promoting the new techniques not because they were good encryption tools, but because it knew how to crack them. Following a series of closed-door meetings around the world over the past three years, which discussed whether ISO should approve two NSA data encryption techniques known as Simon and Speck, NSA has agreed to drop all but the most powerful versions of the techniques. Many experts who took part in the approval process for Simon and Speck were concerned NSA would gain a “back door” into coded transmissions if it were able to crack the encryption techniques.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:44:19pm

re: #28 jaunte

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This is dereliction of duty.

Worse than Katrina. Sick.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:44:40pm

So the GOP has until December to pass a spending bill and debt ceiling increase, yet they feel that the wisest action is to tilt at that ACA windmill one more time. And they insist they’re still doing tax “reform” this year.

Hollywood couldn’t write a better parody of the modern GOP.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:44:56pm

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:45:35pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

Ditto. I want to help as soon as I can.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:46:09pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:46:39pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

Press your reps for a DoD task force. They’ll catch you for the bill in April.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:47:07pm

re: #28 jaunte

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This is dereliction of duty.

That should be retweeted and emailed to every slope-browed moron who bleated the lie about how Obama went golfing during Sandy.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:47:25pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

On my street, that’s called a “lady’s gun”.

The pocket pistol and the shiny vest make him look like an especially sleazy riverboat gambler.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:47:54pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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He smiles as he thinks about what he’s gonna do with all that money the Kochs have promised for ACA repeal.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:48:10pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The pocket pistol and the shiny vest make him look like an especially sleazy riverboat gambler.

Needs more foulard.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:50:13pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

I’m a Kentuckian without a brewery, a coal mine, or a fast food combine. “Representative” is not a word that means what it’s supposed to.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:50:45pm

Something to think about regarding donating right now…

Calling your reps may help.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:51:02pm

re: #28 jaunte

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This is dereliction of duty.

No problem. They will blame Puerto Rico on Obama somehow and the wingnuts will believe it because they remember Obama’s response to Katrina.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:51:11pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The pocket pistol and the shiny vest make him look like an especially sleazy riverboat gambler.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:51:56pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

No problem. They will blame Puerto Rico on Obama somehow and the wingnuts will believe it because they remember Obama’s response to Katrina.

I can see that happening.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:51:58pm

re: #42 JordanRules

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:53:42pm
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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:55:24pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Why pay attention to him? That’s all he wants.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:55:40pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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We live in such strange times. My favorite though was a flat earth society saying they had support around the globe. Their words not mine.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:57:28pm

re: #48 retired cynic

Why pay attention to him? That’s all he wants.

And I should have said that was addressed to CNN.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:57:57pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

I’m pretty sure Lin-Manuel Miranda (whose family is originally from PR) has advocated for these folks: Hispanic Federation. Some of the $$ already raised went to a chartered flight of search and rescue folks down there.

I have the link open to make a donation tonight.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:58:12pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Scammer troll.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:58:16pm

I was just getting back to MSNBC and they showed a video of Bannon at the Roy Moore rally today. I guess he really cleaned up his act while in the White House.

Tonight he looked like a total washed out on the street drunk. No suit, no tie…funky shirt(s) and tattered military styled olive drab jacket. Greasy hair, ruddy skin and all.

And this was at a political rally.

Damn, I didn’t notice if he had his flag pin on.

But I did hear him say “get down on yer knees and thank Gawd Donald J. Trump is President.”

Wait. On yer knees…isn’t that bad?

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:59:10pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2017 • 8:59:32pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

I was just getting back to MSNBC and they showed a video of Bannon at the Roy Moore rally today. I guess he really cleaned up his act while in the White House.

Tonight he looked like a total washed out on the street drunk. No suit, no tie…funky shirt(s) and tattered military styled olive drab jacket. Greasy hair, ruddy skin and all.

And this was at a political rally.

Damn, I didn’t notice if he had his flag pin on.

But I did hear him say “get down on yer knees and thank Gawd Donald J. Trump is President.”

Wait. On yer knees…isn’t that bad?

Both knees are ok. It’s the best pose for sucking Trump’s dick unless he’s sucking Putin’s.

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Teukka  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:03:50pm

Did this get posted?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:03:50pm

And?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:04:53pm

re: #56 Teukka

Did this get posted?

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Yes but it’s great. He’s an amazing coach and guy.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:07:06pm

Heh…looked at my stats and my karma points are 73442.

Saw it right off as ‘73 442.

YeeHaw, let’s burn some rubber.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:07:17pm
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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:07:31pm

re: #25 jaunte

I bet it’s a Taurus “Judge.” He wouldn’t be able to resist buying one.

S&W J frame. I’d guess a 642 in .38 special +P. Very popular as a pocket-able 5 shot revolver though very hard to shoot accurately beyond 10 paces without lots of practice. Most people who buy revolvers like that aren’t big on practicing with them because they really are not a lot of fun to shoot. But at bad breath range, they’re probably the best thing on the market.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:08:06pm

re: #56 Teukka

Nuts, my computer would not play the media :(

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:08:07pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Heh…looked at my stats and my karma points are 73442.

Saw it right off as ‘73 442.

YeeHaw, let’s burn some rubber.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:08:36pm

Made a pear crisp as treat tonight. As soon as it’s cool enough, some ice cream and mmmmmm.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:09:14pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart

Her sentence was commuted, but she was not pardoned.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:09:55pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

When you want it on the ground fast—-

Humvee Airdrop From C-17

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:12:03pm

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Made a pear crisp as treat tonight. As soon as it’s cool enough, some ice cream and mmmmmm.

NOW you are talking! (I’m eating on my fifth “do” of Sleuth’s Tortellini salad.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:12:07pm

re: #60 JordanRules

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Fucking Walker.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:13:00pm

Wow. Lots of Alt-Right Trolls comments about Puerto Rico all over Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and social media. Shitposts like “let them rot,” “screw ‘em,” “they deserved it,” and bringing up reasons why America shouldn’t help because of “bankruptcy, drug smugglers, gang bangers, socialism, and FALN terrorism.” This is what they’re reduced to. They care more about taking freedom of speech away from football players than they do helping millions of Americans (Yes, Puerto Ricans are Americans) without power, Homes, food, and water. The lowest common denominator.

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:14:30pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Fucking Walker.

Hey, now, he was only doing what his boss in Kansas ordered him to do. He certainly couldn’t have figured it out on his own - that boy is about as sharp as a bowling ball.

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Kragar  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:14:53pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Great kid.

Don’t get cocky.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:15:10pm

Shannon has the best sports related social commentary!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:15:35pm

re: #69 DodgerFan1988

Wow. Lots of Alt-Right Trolls comments about Puerto Rico all over Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and social media. Shitposts like “let them rot,” “screw ‘em,” “they deserved it,” and bringing up reasons why America shouldn’t help because of “bankruptcy, drug smugglers, gang bangers, socialism, and FALN terrorism.” This is what they’re reduced to. They care more about taking freedom of speech away from football players than they do helping millions of Americans (Yes, Puerto Ricans are Americans) without power, Homes, food, and water. The lowest common denominator.

There’s some really cruel people in this country and I’m ashamed to call them my fellow Americans. Likewise there are many non Americans, I’m proud to share my humanity with.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:16:15pm

re: #72 JordanRules

Shannon has the best sports related social commentary!

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I looked at his Twitter. He’s good.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:17:45pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

When you want it on the ground fast—-

Video

Sicily DZ

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:17:47pm

I’m watching a documentary on WWI and its effects on Germany. And they’re talking about how a WWI created a cult of soldier.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:17:47pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart

And?

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Fuck her…figuratively, unless you’re into transsexual traitors…not literally.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:18:17pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

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Paging Bill Hader…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:20:09pm

re: #67 retired cynic

NOW you are talking! (I’m eating on my fifth “do” of Sleuth’s Tortellini salad.)

mr. klys is starting his first round of “on call” which does not make him happy. I am cheering him up as best I can.

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mmmirele  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:22:06pm

re: #65 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Her sentence was commuted, but she was not pardoned.

Canada isn’t required to allow anyone in. Remember the Westboro Baptist Church? They were excluded from Canada after they came in to protest, attempted to burn a Canadian flag and a Canadian police officer had to help them because they weren’t doing it right. After that, they were excluded from entry.

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freetoken  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:26:34pm

Trump putting off addressing the PR crisis is only the latest in the very long tradition of US politicians ignoring the island.

Put simply, the reason PR is not a state is due to a diabolical dance of those in the US who don’t want a Spanish speaking state, and those in PR who think they can be a viable independent nation (which is doubtful, at least in my mind.)

PR could be an independent nation, but it would end up being not a very well off one. The population density is too high for the island’s resources. And unlike Japan or Taiwan (who have similar problems), PR is not positioned to be an import-export trading power (which allows Japan and Taiwan to be high consumers of imported goods from resource rich countries.)

I think I’ve written this before - when I was living in Japan, one of my Japanese friends would ask me about PR. They didn’t understand the relationship to the US, and whether PR was a colony or not.

I tried to explain the nuances to the PR-US relationship, but I’m not sure she really understood.

I would say it’s unconscionable that Puerto Ricans don’t have voting elected reps in Congress, but then again, residents of DC don’t have Senators too. PR’s Representative in Congress is more or less a token.

If PR had voting reps in Congress, then they would not be ignored so much.

So here we have a few million US citizens (as Puerto Ricans are) who are not being represented simply because of where they live. If the move to Florida or any other state then their voice counts. But simply because of where they are at their voice is not heard, even though it is typical for US citizens who are residing overseas to be able to vote on a ballot from the state in which they had registered earlier.

But when was the last time you heard US leaders openly making this an issue in a campaign in the 50 states?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:29:10pm

re: #72 JordanRules

That’s just about the epitome of “First they came for the gays, but I did nothing because I’m not gay. Then they went after the immigrants”, … and so on, until he attacked their league.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:30:52pm

re: #82 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Yup and really, their league = their money so of course.
They will all gladly vote for him again though.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:38:50pm

Oh look actual non crazy, human politicians!

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:42:12pm

The Obamas, Bidens, Bushes and Clintons should get together and start pushing noisily for aid for Puerto Rico. Easy for me to say, sitting here, but they have the bully pulpit!

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Kragar  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:42:24pm
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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:47:21pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:51:43pm

If hundreds, if not thousands die from our Government’s lack of emergency response
to Puerto Rico, I’m going to call it for what it really is: a genocide.

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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:56:39pm

Umm, what??

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 9:58:10pm
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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:05:46pm

re: #89 JordanRules

Umm, what??

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Maybe it’s a bit conspiratorial of me, but it seems awfully convenient that Junior’s SS detail was removed, then restored after a week or two; was he doing something, seeing someone, or going somewhere in the interim that he and Daddy didn’t want the detail to see or know about?

It just seems all too pat, too coincidental for me.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:09:23pm

re: #91 TedStriker

maybe it’s a bit conspiratorial of me, but it seems awfully convenient that Junior’s SS detail was removed, then restored after a week or two; was he doing something, seeing someone, or going somewhere in the interim that he and Daddy didn’t want the detail to see or know about?

I can’t help myself.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:10:28pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I can’t help myself.

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LOL

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Kragar  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:15:08pm
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JordanRules  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:15:44pm

re: #91 TedStriker

They don’t even give any reasoning behind their weirdness. It’s just odd at the very least.

And sometimes you can’t help but break out a lil Reynolds Wrap.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:16:05pm

Had to go to dude’s page to see if it was sarc.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:20:40pm

This is old, someone just RT’d it
I honestly LOL

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wheat-dogg  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:20:55pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

We live in such strange times. My favorite though was a flat earth society saying they had support around the globe. Their words not mine.

The map of a flat earth they commonly use is a polar projection, which is created by projecting a round earth onto a flat plane above the north pole. I am quite sure they do not see the contradiction.

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EPR-radar  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:24:05pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

That’s the face of a man who regularly bathes in the blood of slaughtered serfs.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:28:25pm

I’m pleased to report that the Trump-loving, Alex Jones worshiping, Moon flight denying antivaxx clerk who worked at our local hotel has been fired. This was not for being a pseudoscience jackass, though, but for conniving with an accomplice to steal a couple of computers out of the hotel lobby. Seems he did NOT know the location and coverage zones of all the video cameras, and they caught him red-handed. I took the opportunity to enlighten the owner (a friend of mine) about my belief in the correlation between batshit conspira-lies and dishonest behavior in general. He said he would look it up.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:39:03pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

I’d go with Lin-Manuel Miranda’s suggestion:

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:40:13pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The pocket pistol and the shiny vest make him look like an especially sleazy riverboat gambler.

Wyatt Derp.

Craven, outrageous and cold.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:49:22pm

I can’t wait until this year is over. This healthcare nonsense is wearing me out. Hopefully this week is the end of it until next year.

As I understand it, they could revive it during the “tax reform” process, but luckily for everyone else, this group hasn’t demonstrated the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Kenshiro for President/Congress. He’ll kill those bills dead.
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sagehen  Sep 25, 2017 • 10:59:09pm

re: #33 The Ghost of a Flea

Is there a single best place to donate towards Puerto Rico’s relief?

I keep seeing lists, but don’t have a sense of who’s going to get stuff on the ground fast.

I’m a traditionalist; I just assume Red Cross has the institutional memory, warehouses full of supplies and sufficient personnel and transport.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:07:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:29:57pm

re: #104 sagehen

I’m a traditionalist; I just assume Red Cross has the institutional memory, warehouses full of supplies and sufficient personnel and transport.

They don’t. Unfortunately the Red Cross has a terrible track record of late, their responses to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was heavily criticized. So too were their 2012 efforts for Hurricanes Sandy and Isaac.

The Red Cross botched key elements of its mission after Sandy and Isaac, leaving behind a trail of unmet needs and acrimony, according to an investigation by ProPublica and NPR. The charity’s shortcomings were detailed in confidential reports and internal emails, as well as accounts from current and former disaster relief specialists.

What’s more, Red Cross officials at national headquarters in Washington, D.C. compounded the charity’s inability to provide relief by “diverting assets for public relations purposes,” as one internal report puts it. Distribution of relief supplies, the report said, was “politically driven.”

During Isaac, Red Cross supervisors ordered dozens of trucks usually deployed to deliver aid to be driven around nearly empty instead, “just to be seen,” one of the drivers, Jim Dunham, recalls.

“We were sent way down on the Gulf with nothing to give,” Dunham says. The Red Cross’ relief effort was “worse than the storm.”

In additions they took in half a billion dollars in donations for the Haiti earthquake and nobody seems to know how it was spent.

NPR and ProPublica went in search of the nearly $500 million and found a string of poorly managed projects, questionable spending and dubious claims of success, according to a review of hundreds of pages of the charity’s internal documents and emails, as well as interviews with a dozen current and former officials.

The Red Cross says it has provided homes to more than 130,000 people, but the number of permanent homes the charity has built is six.

The Red Cross long has been known for providing emergency disaster relief — food, blankets and shelter to people in need. And after the earthquake, it did that work in Haiti, too. But the Red Cross has very little experience in the difficult work of rebuilding in a developing country.

The organization, which in 2010 had a $100 million deficit, out-raised other charities by hundreds of millions of dollars — and kept raising money well after it had enough for its emergency relief. But where exactly did that money go?

Ask a lot of Haitians — even the country’s former prime minister — and they will tell you they don’t have any idea.

This last Pro Publica article is incredibly well sourced and informative. It breaks down how the Red Cross is primary a business that takes in donated blood and sells it, spending $2.2 billion annually mostly employee salary and benefits while on average spending less than a fifth of that on disaster response. All while deceptively conflating the money spent on operating the blood business with their charity spending for reporting purposes. They purposely cloud their operating efficiency and refuse to provide transparency when questioned about specifics.

In recent years, the Red Cross’ fundraising expenses alone have been as high as 26 cents of every donated dollar, nearly three times the nine cents in overhead claimed by McGovern. In the past five years, fundraising expenses have averaged 17 cents per donated dollar.

But even that understates matters. Once donated dollars are in Red Cross hands, the charity spends additional money on “management and general” expenses, which includes things like back office accounting. That means the portion of donated dollars going to overhead is even higher.

Just how high is impossible to know because the Red Cross doesn’t break down its spending on overhead and declined ProPublica and NPR’s request to do so.

The difference between the real number and the one the Red Cross has been repeating “would be very stark,” says Daniel Borochoff of the watchdog group CharityWatch. “They don’t want to be embarrassed.”

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:47:56pm

Now these asshats are triggered by the Dallas Cowboys taking a knee, even though it wasn’t even during the national anthem. It was never ever about disrespecting the flag but rather defying their “god emperor.” They fit the very defination of fascism.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:49:57pm

Dallas kneeled together before the NA, then stood up.

Does that mean they go both ways?

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Kragar  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:50:59pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

False Emperor, if you don’t mind.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:54:58pm

re: #108 BigPapa

Dallas kneeled together before the NA, then stood up.

Does that mean they go both ways?

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2017 • 11:56:40pm

re: #108 BigPapa

Dallas kneeled together before the NA, then stood up.

Does that mean they go both ways?

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2017 • 12:10:20am
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sagehen  Sep 26, 2017 • 12:25:12am

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

They don’t. Unfortunately the Red Cross has a terrible track record of late, their responses to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was heavily criticized. So too were their 2012 efforts for Hurricanes Sandy and Isaac.

In additions they took in half a billion dollars in donations for the Haiti earthquake and nobody seems to know how it was spent.

This last Pro Publica article is incredibly well sourced and informative. It breaks down how the Red Cross is primary a business that takes in donated blood and sells it, spending $2.2 billion annually mostly employee salary and benefits while on average spending less than a fifth of that on disaster response. All while deceptively conflating the money spent on operating the blood business with their charity spending for reporting purposes. They purposely cloud their operating efficiency and refuse to provide transparency when questioned about specifics.

That’s disappointing. I guess I need to send my future donations elsewhere.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2017 • 12:57:44am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 26, 2017 • 1:04:18am

Ha ha!
Earlier today, Lubbock Trump-fan Dr. Donald May posted a message praising Alejandro Villanueva for standing alone for the national anthem. This had no sooner appeared than Villanueva apologized and announced his solidarity with his team-mates, leaving the no doubt horrified Dr. May to attempt a face-saving recovery. Note the weasely “any apology he may have made.”

Facebook Post

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 2:44:47am

Butthurt still flowing over ST:Discovery. One of the latest “reviews” over at IMDB:

This is even more boring then old series.
1/10
Author: punkar-582-936924 from Finland
26 September 2017
Another bad and incredible boring series are born. Cast supporting leftist idiots shows all. This series are already dead from beginning. This is the end of the Netflix. I don’t have nothing more to say. Time is money and Star Trek: Discovery is a waste of time and money.

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Cast Takes a Knee After Show’s Premiere

The cast members of Star Trek Discovery were slammed by social media users Sunday after a photo of the CBS show’s stars taking a knee went viral online. The photo, posted on Discovery star Sonequa Martin-Green’s Instagram account, was an apparent show of unity with NFL players protesting the national anthem. Breitbart.

Lots of butthurt.

Some of the stupider of such comes from guys praising The Orville while still slamming ST:D for “SJW”.

If you have watched the first three episodes of The Orville, it’s pretty clear that show has no problem being into social issues - the third episode is on gender roles.

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Woods Witch  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:34:04am

It’s awake….and tweeting about the NFL. He’s either trying to distract from more important matters or has taken this personally and is suffering a severe narcissistic injury.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:36:40am

One of the very many negative side-effects of Trump’s ego crowding out everything else is that a lot of interesting news gets almost totally ignored.

From last week’s Science magazine:

Embryo edit makes human ‘knockout’

For the first time, scientists have used gene-editing techniques on human embryos to probe how they develop. The study is an important proof of principle; previous human embryo-editing research has focused instead on correcting faulty genes. The new experiments are also a first test of the United Kingdom’s carefully crafted embryo-editing research regulations, which require that researchers undergo a review by a government authority and receive a license before moving forward. Kathy Niakan, a developmental biologist at the Francis Crick Institute in London, applied in 2015 to use the CRISPR editing technique on human embryos to learn more about the genes active in early development. The researchers planned to focus first on OCT4, known as a marker for pluripotent stem cells—cells that can become all tissues in the body. Niakan’s group used CRISPR to “knock out,” or deactivate, the gene that codes for OCT4 in 37 single-cell human embryos left over after in vitro fertilization treatments and donated by couples. In the human embryo knockouts, placental cells failed to form, indicating that OCT4 plays an earlier role in humans than it does in mouse embryos.

While the immediate discovery about the role of OCT4 may be of interest to only specialists, the fact that scientists are now doing genetic engineering on human embryos ought to get more attention. As more lab work like this is done, the techniques themselves will be perfected and experience gained, which will then lead to even more applications of genetic engineering of humans.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:40:45am

In the same magazine, more genetic engineering, this time on pigs, to make them a more suitable host for growing human organs:

Summary:
Advances in organ transplant from pigs

Xenotransplantation, where tissue from one species is transplanted into a different species, is currently under development to help alleviate the increasing shortage of human tissues and organs for transplantation to treat organ failure. For several reasons, which include the size and physiology of the organs, the ease of genetic modification and cloning, and the large number of progeny and short reproduction cycle, pigs are the animals of choice for organ transplant in humans. Three major problems need to be solved before xenotransplantation becomes a clinical reality: immunological rejection, physiological incompatibility, and the risk of transmission of porcine microorganisms that are able to induce a disease (zoonosis) in the human recipient. On page 1303 of this issue, Niu et al. (1) demonstrate how to increase the safety of xenotransplantation.

Paper:

Inactivation of porcine endogenous retrovirus in pigs using CRISPR-Cas9

Taking the PERVs out of pigs
With the severe shortage of organs needed for transplants, xenotransplantation (transplantation of nonhuman organs to humans) offers an alternative source. Some pig organs have similar size and function to those of humans. The challenge is that the pig genome harbors porcine endogenous retroviruses (PERVs) that can potentially pass to humans with possibly damaging consequences. Niu et al. generated pigs in which all copies of PERVs were inactivated by CRISPR-Cas9 genome engineering (see the Perspective by Denner). Not only does this work provide insights into PERV activity, but it also opens the door to a safer source of organs and tissues for pig-to-human xenotransplantation.

Abstract
Xenotransplantation is a promising strategy to alleviate the shortage of organs for human transplantation. In addition to the concerns about pig-to-human immunological compatibility, the risk of cross-species transmission of porcine endogenous retroviruses (PERVs) has impeded the clinical application of this approach. We previously demonstrated the feasibility of inactivating PERV activity in an immortalized pig cell line. We now confirm that PERVs infect human cells, and we observe the horizontal transfer of PERVs among human cells.Using CRISPR-Cas9, we inactivated all of the PERVs in a porcine primary cell line and generated PERV-inactivated pigs via somatic cell nuclear transfer. Our study highlights the value of PERV inactivation to prevent cross-species viral transmission and demonstrates the successful production of PERV-inactivated animals to address the safety concern in clinical xenotransplantation.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:42:02am

If only scientists could figure out how to take the perv out of a certain American pig.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:44:09am

I propose that some Trumpers are Trumpers exactly because this brave new world is a threat to their view of themselves.

Many Americans are very resistant to a modern view of what is a “human”. Many Americans have very bronze-age ideas of what it means to be a human.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 3:49:08am

Speaking of being human:

The growth pattern of Neanderthals reconstructed

Neanderthals’ growth rate is very similar to that of Homo sapiens, and differences have been observed in the development of the brain and spine of these two human species. These are the main findings of a study published in Science which focusses on a near eight-year-old Neanderthal child who lived in the Asturian cave of El Sidrón. The study is led by Antonio Rosas, researcher of the Spanish National Research Council (CSIC), and among its authors is Carles Lalueza-Fox, the principal investigator of the Paleogenomics Lab of the IBE.

“Discerning the differences and similarities in growth patterns between Neanderthals and modern humans helps us better define our own history. Modern humans and Neanderthals emerged from a common recent ancestor, and this is manifested in a similar overall growth rate”, explains Rosas. As fellow CSIC researcher Luis Ríos highlights, “Applying paediatric growth assessment methods, this Neanderthal child is no different to a modern-day child”. The pattern of vertebral maturation and brain growth, as well as energy constraints during development, may have marked the anatomical shape of Neanderthals.

Neanderthals had a greater cranial capacity than today’s humans. Neanderthal adults had an intracranial volume of 1,520 cubic centimetres, while that of modern adult man is 1,195 cubic centimetres. That of the Neanderthal child in the study had reached 1,330 cubic centimetres at the time of his death, in other words, 87.5% of the total reached at eight years of age. At that age, the development of a modern-day child’s cranial capacity has already been fully completed.

[…]

See also: The growth pattern of Neandertals, reconstructed from a juvenile skeleton from El Sidrón (Spain)

Neanderthals were a human species who lived contemporaneously with our own. Indeed, close enough of relatives for limited interbreeding (and most of us carry a little bit of Neanderthal DNA.)

And yet this of course can’t be so, in the world of the fundamentalist believers of certain religions, as then they would have to debate whether Neanderthals had “souls”.

Even Biologos has run aground on this issue, because they really can’t come up with a good argument on what has a soul or not.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:01:23am

On Morning Joe, the governor of Puerto Rico seems to have landed on the right approach to incentivize our Pig President to help:

“We’re 3.4 million American citizens in desperate need; if we don’t get the food, water, fuel and materials to rebuild our transportation and electric infrastructure, we’ll have to all move to the continental U.S.”

Yep. That should do it.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:04:26am

re: #116 freetoken

Butthurt still flowing over ST:Discovery. One of the latest “reviews” over at IMDB:

Lots of butthurt.

I don’t have nothing more to say.

.

Uhm…I need a wee bit of clarification….

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:26:03am

He’s got his talking point of the day

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:42:24am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:50:11am

re: #72 JordanRules

Shannon has the best sports related social commentary!

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Ima gonna repost this. This is leadership. Period. This is the type of truth I am starving for. God Damn it!

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:56:28am

re: #127 Dave In Austin

Ima gonna repost this. This is leadership. Period. This is the type of truth I am starving for. God Damn it!

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At the risk of displaying my ignorance… who is this Shannon?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2017 • 4:58:23am

re: #128 sagehen

Sports ball guy. I don’t know. I really don’t care. He’s got a mic and his message is needle sharp truth.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:16:17am
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MsJ  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:18:14am

I was wondering why Stone was in the trending column on twitter.

Thread.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:27:16am

Today’s Google Doodle is about Gloria E. Anzaldúa.

Gloria E. Anzaldúa - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Gloria Evangelina Anzaldúa (September 26, 1942 - May 15, 2004) was an American scholar of Chicana cultural theory, feminist theory, and queer theory.

My theory is that Google is trying to troll conservatives. I like.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:32:12am

There’s so much wrong in this:

rawstory.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:33:50am

re: #103 alloutofcrazyhere

I can’t wait until this year is over. This healthcare nonsense is wearing me out. Hopefully this week is the end of it until next year.

As I understand it, they could revive it during the “tax reform” process, but luckily for everyone else, this group hasn’t demonstrated the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time.

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Republicans can’t chew gum and FART at the same time.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:34:43am

re: #134 Joe Bacon 🌹

They can chew gum and shart.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:35:06am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

He’s got his talking point of the day

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They treated him like a black suspect in custody in some parts of the US?.

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jeffreyw  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:35:38am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:39:14am

re: #137 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Hmmmm! Cranberry pineapple pizza! For breakfast no less!

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:39:40am

re: #128 sagehen

He’s a former NFL player and now he co-hosts the sports debate show ‘Undisputed’ on Fox Sports.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:42:15am

re: #122 freetoken

Speaking of being human:

Even Biologos has run aground on this issue, because they really can’t come up with a good argument on what has a soul or not.

That was a cool paper. Now if we could get an actual skeleton on a Denesovian as well, some more of the later bits of our evolutionary history would come into focus.

As for ensoulment, as someone who is religious and believes in evolution, I’d have fun with that debate, preferably over Guinness and Famous Grouse :) No good arguments for or against, just some fun with the right people. No fundies need apply!

Consciousness is the key to my thinking. To be aware of what is… which species was the first to look at the night sky and wonder why? Based on what little evidence we have, probably starting from early Homo or possibly Australopithecus as well as the species in Cetacea and possibly Ponginae, Gorillinae, Panina & Elephantidae.

I’ll leave this here now :D

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:49:35am

re: #137 jeffreyw

Reminds me of the last recipe I sent to my Dad before he passed away. Dad loved to make Upside Down cakes. He made a Cranberry Upside Down version based on the recipe I sent him. Said it was so good he ate the whole thing for dinner…

Miss you, Dad. Trust me you are now in a better place…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:53:16am

The new iOS is definitely a battery sucker. They need to fix this or I got to go back.

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MsJ  Sep 26, 2017 • 5:56:26am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

The new iOS is definitely a battery sucker. They need to fix this or I got to go back.

I just read that last night…from 240 minutes down to 97. I was like HOLY SHIT. I am not upgrading until that’s fixed.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:09:02am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

Apple and Canon have remarkably lost their sharp innovations. Now they plod along. Put out flawed products that give competitors opportunity.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:09:31am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

The new iOS is definitely a battery sucker. They need to fix this or I got to go back.

And How! I pretty much leave mine plugged in. Bluetooth off, and all I use it for is maps, calls, and text.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:10:02am

re: #144 Unshaken Defiance

Apple and Canon have remarkably lost their sharp innovations. Now they plod along. Put out flawed products that give competitors opportunity.

To me, they need to make another iPod that can hold tons of music. I don’t need apps. Just tons of storage for music.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:11:12am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

To me, they need to make another iPod that can hold tons of music. I don’t need apps. Just tons of storage for music.

Yeah, a 2 Tb iPod. That would probably sell pretty well.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:12:36am

I have a love-hate relationship with flying. I should just get my flight time in and earn my pilot’s license.

The surfeit of wheelchair customers is particularly pronounced on flights from New York to Florida, says Jason Rabinowitz, an aviation blogger. And when the planes arrive, many of those passengers walk into the terminal without assistance. “They call them ‘Miracle Flights,’” Rabinowitz said. “They get to south Florida and, suddenly, everyone is cured.”

And a growing number of passengers seek comfort (along with reduced costs) by flying with their pets. Under the Air Carrier Access Act, airlines must make reasonable accommodations for people whose doctors assert that they need to fly with an “emotional support animal,” and the animals fly for free. Passengers have taken pictures of pigs, goats and even a turkey, which were ostensibly providing emotional support. The industry does not track the fauna proliferation, but flight crews say the phenomenon is now routine, particularly on longer flights.

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jeffreyw  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:15:19am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

Hmmmm! Cranberry pineapple pizza! For breakfast no less!

Cranberry?!? You take that back!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:15:49am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, a 2 Tb iPod. That would probably sell pretty well.

I don’t see why they can’t do that. We have flash drives that hold as much as iPods. I don’t need to get connected to the internet on my MP3 player. Hell I don’t even need videos. I just want a massive music player. I can use my phone for apps and internet. Unfortunately, I think we’re in the minority.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:16:06am

re: #148 Shropshire Slasher

What’s wrong with my emotional support spider:

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:16:58am

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’m pleased to report that the Trump-loving, Alex Jones worshiping, Moon flight denying antivaxx clerk who worked at our local hotel has been fired. This was not for being a pseudoscience jackass, though, but for conniving with an accomplice to steal a couple of computers out of the hotel lobby. Seems he did NOT know the location and coverage zones of all the video cameras, and they caught him red-handed. I took the opportunity to enlighten the owner (a friend of mine) about my belief in the correlation between batshit conspira-lies and dishonest behavior in general. He said he would look it up.

Twenty eight air medals? Damn.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:17:56am

re: #144 Unshaken Defiance

Apple and Canon have remarkably lost their sharp innovations. Now they plod along. Put out flawed products that give competitors opportunity.

A big part of the problem is that neither have real competition - Nikon is busy stepping on their d*** while putting out just another of the same thing and Canon ignores what the smaller mirrorless companies are doing with their real innovations. DSLRs will be the death of both companies…

Likewise there is no one pushing Apple anymore. MS is an even bigger joke than ever and none of the PC companies are doing anything interesting either.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:20:32am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

Oh Jeebus!

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:21:32am

Public safety cannot be in the hands of bigots.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:23:19am

re: #154 Shropshire Slasher

Oh Jeebus!

It’s quite an impressive critter. Enough to make any arachnophobe apoplectic.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:23:35am

re: #153 William Lewis

Once a field matures, the more important items are cost effectiveness.

For a large corporation like Canon, that is about finding a way to balance the need to find cheaper labor versus the cultural need of being a good Japanese citizen corporation.

For Apple, part of the American culture where there is not the deeper commitment to employing people compared to Japan, I think the real problem is that there isn’t a driving need for a lot more gadgetry. Sure, there is a whole media market on making the next big thing a source of excitement, to drive web hits and such. But in our life we mostly are over-gageted by now, and frankly there is not much use for a lot of new stuff.

What we need more than all is cheaper ways of achieving high-speed internet, especially to remote areas. And that is a hard problem in the physical universe.

We also need, in our society, a better way of finding meaningful work for millions of people. Automation is at odds with full-employment, a puzzle that escapes many social commenters looking for easy answers.

What all this leads me to is that we really don’t need a new version of iOS. Rather, we need $50 smart phones which don’t require hundreds of dollars in monthly network charges.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:25:02am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

He’s got his talking point of the day

He seems to be more concerned with kneeling still

And, taking credit for something

And of course, still not quite getting that whole empathy thing right

He only hears what he wants to hear

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:25:40am

re: #155 JordanRules

Public safety cannot be in the hands of bigots.

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Agreed. Fucker. The father of my brother’s best friend, a black man was a firefighter and took part in the response to 9/11. Anyhow, as a Steelers fan, I’m proud to call Mike Tomlin my team’s coach, he’s caring, intelligent, and yes a patriot. As Bob Costas said on Sunday night, patriotism takes many forms.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:27:53am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

He seems to be more concerned with kneeling still

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He’s thanking the mayor for the “kind words on FEMA”, FEMA’s literally doing its job. Goddamn can we just get rid of this miserable old fuck already? Please. God just shut the fuck up about the NFL already. Your supporters tell the athletes to protest some time other than on company time, why don’t you bitch about the NFL when you’re not being President to all of us like you were supposedly elected to be.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:28:12am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

‘Great Anger’? Jeeb-us, we really are down the fucking rabbit hole.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:29:52am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Trump is literally gunning for the GOP to garner less than 1% of black votes, and under 10% for other minority groups. Frankly, the only black people who will want to associate with Trump are the incompetent know nothing people in his admin (Omarosa and Carson).

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:30:35am

re: #140 William Lewis

Heh, thinking about this got me playing with an online bumper sticker maker…

The face is a reconstruction of the face of “Lucy”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:30:45am

re: #162 lawhawk

Trump is literally gunning for the GOP to garner less than 1% of black votes, and under 10% for other minority groups. Frankly, the only black people who will want to associate with Trump are the incompetent know nothing people in his admin (Omarosa and Carson).

He may get less than Goldwater percentage wise when this is all over.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:30:52am

re: #155 JordanRules

Public safety cannot be in the hands of bigots.

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This is why I left Pennsylvania 35 years ago and I will never go back!

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:38:19am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:39:36am

pbs.org

This is helpful to know. How you can help out victims in Puerto Rico.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:40:17am
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:48:02am

re: #153 William Lewis

Did the DSLR design hit it’s nadir? Maybe you can’t go bigger than “full frame” in a body like that. Maybe 12 or 14 fps is it for a real shutter. Maybe 100mp makes no sense until you get a bigger sensor?

As a pro, I soon have to step up to 4k in video, large sensor. $cared $hipless about that. Could be I need to own lenses and just rent camera bodies.
For stills, and my attempts at art photography, I’m going back to film. When I can.

The DSLR may be a configuration of the past. Like the Rollie. Viable forever but surpassed. For years I have said before only marketing and profit centers prevent digital cameras from being mere accessories to the lens, and the image go out by wire or wireless anywhere we wish.

I think the Sony mirrorless a series show the compromise in between. But the high end full frame 4k is still very expensive, beyond the consumer and even semi pro.

Oops gotta rush off

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:48:27am

I just donated 50 bucks to Save the Children. I had a lot of charities to choose from but I chose that one given their focus on families.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:49:47am

re: #168 FormerDirtDart

Some of those involved:

Dawkins is an agent who was just fired by NBA players association as well. Sood is an investment manager and former NFL player.

Can’t wait to see who else is involved.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:53:03am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

He seems to be more concerned with kneeling still

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“Great anger”? WTF

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:55:08am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Did the DSLR design hit it’s nadir? Maybe you can’t go bigger than “full frame” in a body like that. Maybe 12 or 14 fps is it for a real shutter. Maybe 100mp makes no sense until you get a bigger sensor?

As a pro, I soon have to step up to 4k in video, large sensor. $cared $hipless about that. Could be I need to own lenses and just rent camera bodies.
For stills, and my attempts at art photography, I’m going back to film. When I can.

The DSLR may be a configuration of the past. Like the Rollie. Viable forever but surpassed. For years I have said before only marketing and profit centers prevent digital cameras from being mere accessories to the lens, and the image go out by wire or wireless anywhere we wish.

I think the Sony mirrorless a series show the compromise in between. But the high end full frame 4k is still very expensive, beyond the consumer and even semi pro.

Oops gotta rush off

Well, if you see this, I agree overall. If you want to see a good direction forward, I like the newest Hasselblad model - the X1D-50. hasselblad.com 50 mpixel with a much larger sensor yet still handy enough via a mirrorless body.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:57:31am

re: #171 lawhawk

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 6:57:47am

re: #5 jaunte

48,000 Puerto Ricans served in Vietnam. 335 died in combat. 18 were listed as MIA.
Meanwhile, Trump received five deferments for “bone spurs.” Now he has the power to decide if the families of those Puerto Rican veterans can get food and water.

Watch Texas and Florida Republicans who demanded no-strings-attached relief for their states refuse to vote for PR relief unless its matched by cuts to domestic spending.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:01:09am

re: #175 Big Beautiful Door

Watch Texas and Florida Republicans who demanded no-strings-attached relief for their states refuse to vote for PR relief unless its matched by cuts to domestic spending.

You know that’s going to happen. You just know it.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:01:14am

re: #173 William Lewis

The limitations of photolithography tools means that any solid state sensor larger than about 25mm in diameter will be extraordinarily expensive.

If I was going to go back and do more photography as art, I’d still work in film for the larger sizes. The reason to use a small format (like solid state sensors) is for convenience and subjects for which high frame rates are required.

Videographers will want 4k cameras, but still photographers will always be more interested in light response. Larger formats gather more light. On small sensors, larger photodiodes means better S/N. These things can’t be escaped. It’s how the universe works.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:03:12am

All this angst over sports-ball.

Maybe we should lower the importance of sports ball in our society?

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:03:48am
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sizzzzlerz  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:05:45am

re: #3 jaunte

“Citizens of Rock Ridge!”

You know. Morons.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:06:07am

re: #177 freetoken

The limitations of photolithography tools means that any solid state sensor larger than about 25mm in diameter will be extraordinarily expensive.

If I was going to go back and do more photography as art, I’d still work in film for the larger sizes. The reason to use a small format (like solid state sensors) is for convenience and subjects for which high frame rates are required.

Videographers will want 4k cameras, but still photographers will always be more interested in light response. Larger formats gather more light. On small sensors, larger photodiodes means better S/N. These things can’t be escaped. It’s how the universe works.

My personal use is micro 4/3 so I can hardly disagree. However, of the large sensor still systems out there, I do think that the X1D is the best compromise.

As for video, I’ve always tried to avoid dealing with it. One can still do artistic b&w work in stills, not so much in video ;)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:06:21am

re: #178 freetoken

All this angst over sports-ball.

Maybe we should lower the importance of sports ball in our society?

I think sports do play an important role in society but I’m definitely for getting rid of linking patriotism with sport.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:07:03am

re: #179 FormerDirtDart

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Subtlety isn’t one of Dumbo Jr’s strong suits.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:11:31am

Bob Costas made a good point. There’s constant honoring of the military at sporting events and there’s no problem with that but there’s never acknowledgment of teachers. Bob put it this way. Patriotism is much more than the military and that’s something we seem to have forgotten. The Peace Corps that JFK established is a way you can patriotically serve your country. The NLRB that my grandfather was a lifer in is serving your country. Yes, in some positions you’re more willing to risk your life than others but if patriotism is about love of one’s country then it can and should come in many forms.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:13:28am

re: #53 ObserverArt

I was just getting back to MSNBC and they showed a video of Bannon at the Roy Moore rally today. I guess he really cleaned up his act while in the White House.

Tonight he looked like a total washed out on the street drunk. No suit, no tie…funky shirt(s) and tattered military styled olive drab jacket. Greasy hair, ruddy skin and all.

And this was at a political rally.

Damn, I didn’t notice if he had his flag pin on.

But I did hear him say “get down on yer knees and thank Gawd Donald J. Trump is President.”

Wait. On yer knees…isn’t that bad?

Not when you are worshiping the Orange God-Emperor.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:22:14am

re: #97 FormerDirtDart

Man. That took me to long to get. LMAO Need more coffee.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:22:59am

His “Religious” advisor,

“I think what these players are doing is absolutely wrong,” Jeffress said. “These players ought to be thanking God that they live in a country where they’re not only free to earn millions of dollars every year, but they’re also free from the worry of being shot in the head for taking a knee like they would be if they were in North Korea.”

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:24:34am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

But Rev. Jeremiah Wright said god damn America and that was so much worse…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:25:14am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

His “Religious” advisor,

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He’s such an ass just like Trump. And frankly who the hell is he to declare Trump not a bigot. He hasn’t been the subject of Trump’s racist bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:25:38am

re: #188 lawhawk

But Rev. Jeremiah Wright said god damn America and that was so much worse…

They hated Jeremiah Wright but Pat Robertson literally said we deserved 9/11 and they didn’t care.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:26:19am

Trump response to Hurricane Maria is a bazillion times worse than Bush Katrina.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:28:22am

re: #57 FormerDirtDart

Pretty sure she isn’t going to hack Canadian military secrets showing gunships blowing apart journalists in Baghdad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:28:23am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Trump response to Hurricane Maria is a bazillion times worse than Bush Katrina.

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The Bush response to Katrina was awful but it at least wasn’t heartless like this is.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:29:57am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

The Bush response to Katrina was awful but it at least wasn’t heartless like this is.

Less heartless. He just thought he didn’t have to do anything except probably pray.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:30:09am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Did the DSLR design hit it’s nadir? Maybe you can’t go bigger than “full frame” in a body like that. Maybe 12 or 14 fps is it for a real shutter. Maybe 100mp makes no sense until you get a bigger sensor?

As a pro, I soon have to step up to 4k in video, large sensor. $cared $hipless about that. Could be I need to own lenses and just rent camera bodies.
For stills, and my attempts at art photography, I’m going back to film. When I can.

The DSLR may be a configuration of the past. Like the Rollie. Viable forever but surpassed. For years I have said before only marketing and profit centers prevent digital cameras from being mere accessories to the lens, and the image go out by wire or wireless anywhere we wish.

I think the Sony mirrorless a series show the compromise in between. But the high end full frame 4k is still very expensive, beyond the consumer and even semi pro.

Oops gotta rush off

On the bright side, I can finally afford a Hassy 500C.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:30:57am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

His “Religious” advisor,

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How dare they exercise their constitutional rights?!? Those are only for white, gun-toting Christians….

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:33:59am

re: #155 JordanRules

Public safety cannot be in the hands of bigots.

KDKA ✔ @CBSPittsburgh
Fire chief “embarrassed,” “regrets” using racial slur against @steelers coach Mike Tomlin. @LisaWashing’s report: cbsloc.al
6:50 AM - Sep 26, 2017

I am so tired when bigots pop off and say what is really on their mind and reflect how they really feel. Then when called out they regret and are sorry.

Sorry your sorry. I am not buying the take back. I am going with your initial statement as the real intended one.

Kick his ass off the squad. Maybe he can go work on the city street sweeper crew.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:37:10am

Oh look at this==>

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:38:06am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look at this==>

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We’re run by a corrupt oligarch who cares only for himself.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:40:42am

re: #197 ObserverArt

In his original comment he put emphasis on his intent and willingness to say it with the “yeah I said it” at the end.
He meant it with all his heart. He cannot be trusted in a position with any power.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:40:48am

re: #192 Scottish Dragon

Pretty sure she isn’t going to hack Canadian military secrets showing gunships blowing apart journalists in Baghdad.

She was still naive enough to not understand that Julian Assange is an enemy of the Western Democracies and still did commit serious crimes to supposedly expose that one problem.

I am glad for the commutation due to her psychological and medical issues but otherwise I’d have had utterly no problem with her serving her full 35 year sentence. But that may be my 11B & 96B talking…

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:41:08am

It’s hard to believe, but I think Junior is more of an idiot than the fat orange fart is. What a great family.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:41:16am

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look at this==>

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That would make a wonderful landing zone for relief Chinooks.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:43:29am

re: #200 JordanRules

In his original comment he put emphasis on his intent and willingness to say it with the “yeah I said it” at the end.
He meant it with all his heart. He cannot be trusted in a position with any power.

He’s only backtracking because he got called out. Typical coward. And yeah he can’t be trusted if he’s going to be like that.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:46:04am
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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:47:43am

So, there’s a disconnect between what is actually going on in Puerto Rico and what Trump admin thinks is going on there.

This isn’t surprising.

The island is still without power and telcom. Water/utilities/telcom is all but out. Food is scarce (lack of power playing a role). Distribution routes are tough when roads are still impassible due to downed trees, debris.

Trump wants people thinking everything is okay.

It isn’t. The disaster response has been awful in ways that should be familiar to anyone who knows how it went during Katrina. That thankfully we haven’t seen the death toll from Katrina is a flat out miracle.

But the federal govt response has been just as achingly slow. Just because a handful of ships are now there isn’t getting the power restored any faster. They need massive infusion of utility trucks and related equipment. That just wont happen without significant assets being brought in - you can’t just drive to PR the same way that utilities from NYS or NJ can drive down to FL or TX to assist in getting the power restored.

You need significant numbers of RORO ships that can bring in the needed gear.

You need to be able to get the ports reopened so critical supplies and food can get in.

All that has to happen yesterday.

You can’t just bring stuff in by helicopter. That’s simply an indisputable fact. A RORO ship can bring in 100s of utility trucks. Helicopters can’t do that.

That the PR utility was in bad shape before Maria is actually irrelevant. They need the help and Trump isn’t doing anywhere near enough to improve the conditions for 3 million Americans.

That’s more people without power than live in a bunch of red states. In fact, we know Trump’s probably looking at the tone of those affected by Maria and knows he wont get their votes so he’s simply ignoring the matter.

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:52:55am

More names released re: NCAA scandal

Arizona’s Book Richardson, USC’s Tony Bland, Auburn’s Chuck Person and Oklahoma State’s Lamont Evans were the four coaches charged with fraud and corruption.

Managers, financial advisers and representatives of a major international sportswear company are also involved in the investigation. Jim Gatto, an executive with Adidas, was arrested, as was Christian Dawkins, a former NBA agent who was fired from ASM Sports after he used a player’s credit card to run up $42,000 of charges on Uber.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2017 • 7:56:00am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

I’ve said before that attempts to rehabilitate dubya bug the hell out of me, because he still “wins” the “worst recent president” award for body count alone (Iraq War, Katrina, and to some extent 9/11, which might have been prevented if “Bin Laden determined to strike” memos had been properly addressed)

I’m getting increasingly nervous on how quickly trump may catch up, though… o_O

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:00:54am

Mike Pence lies that Graham-Cassidy gives the states “flexibility” denied them by the ACA, when he knows full well from his Medicaid expansion as Governor of Indiana that the ACA already provides the states plenty of flexibility to experiment. The only purpose served by Graham-Cassidy is to gut Medicaid funding in order to make it easier to pass massive tax cuts for billionaires.

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dangerman  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:03:23am

re: #5 jaunte

48,000 Puerto Ricans served in Vietnam. 335 died in combat. 18 were listed as MIA.
Meanwhile, Trump received five deferments for “bone spurs.” Now he has the power to decide if the families of those Puerto Rican veterans can get food and water.

i dont have time to join in today. and forgive, if this has been covered already

puerto ricans are american citizens. full stop.

all the full weight of what this means
all that is being done to them
all that is is not being done for them

there are not two classes of citizenry (constitutionally)

and only because i am fuming: no one talked about “texans” or floridians” in the last few weeks as if they were somehow different or separate

finally - throw all that aside, every last argument and rationale.
they are people. humans. we can help.

this is beneath contempt

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:03:54am

re: #209 Big Beautiful Door

The ACA won’t give the states the flexibility to kill off their weaker members. Why won’t it do that? Why doesn’t it care about the future of our country?

//

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:09:41am

re: #210 dangerman

i dont have time to join in today. and forgive, if this has been covered already

puerto ricans are american citizens. full stop.

all the full weight of what this means
all that is being done to them
all that is is not being done for them

there are not two classes of citizenry (constitutionally)

and only because i am fuming: no one talked about “texans” or floridians” in the last few weeks as if they were somehow different or separate

finally - throw all that aside, every last argument and rationale.
they are people. humans. we can help.

this is beneath contempt

We learned from Hurricane Andrew that nothing short of a joint task force, extending even beyond the DoD, can jumpstart the response to a Cat 5 in a confined area.

(US Forest Service was one of the most impressive elements. They showed up fully equipped, ready to go to their astounding task—clearing a “forest” of hundreds of thousands of trees that was down, blocking the impacted urban area.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:10:06am

re: #211 Belafon

The ACA won’t give the states the flexibility to kill off their weaker members. Why won’t it do that? Why doesn’t it care about the future of our country?

//

If thirty million people have to be denied healthcare to give billionaires tens of millions of dollars in tax cuts each, so be it. Why doesn’t anyone think about the plight of the billionaires being denied their tax cuts?

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:11:04am

Nate responds in the comments.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:12:30am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:17:34am

re: #121 freetoken

I propose that some Trumpers are Trumpers exactly because this brave new world is a threat to their view of themselves.

Many Americans are very resistant to a modern view of what is a “human”. Many Americans have very bronze-age ideas of what it means to be a human.

A “human” is a meat-sack that transports our bacterial overlords around. Depending on what current science you find is most realistic, the human meat-sack contains about 1:1.3 to 1:10* human cells:bacterial cells. The gene ratio is a better indicator of relative value of “humanness” and that is more like 100:1; or, 99% of our genes expressing in the meat-sack are bacterial in origin.

With those number is mind, what is “human”? The more that is understood about the microbiome in- and on- the meat-sack, the more we understand that the “humans” entire existence is dependent on- and controlled by- our bacterial overlords.

*-the 1.3:1 comes from a Nature paper that is arguably low, but whatever.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:19:37am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Until you need to buy a lens.

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:21:00am

re: #216 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yes, the current understanding, based on a whole lot of observations, is that we are colonies of cells.

But the old idea - that we are a magical, semi or totally, eternal beings, hangs on.

This is the why the religious right gets so caught up into knots over embryos. They can’t admit that a cell is a cell, they need to make it a container of a “soul”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:21:07am

re: #214 JordanRules

Nate responds in the comments.

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I’m not sure if Haberman’s tweet was supposed to be a dig at Nate Silver, but last November Silver took a lot of flack for saying that Trump had a realistic chance of winning, while others like Sam Wang said he didn’t.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:31:07am

re: #219 Big Beautiful Door

Oh yeah it’s a dig. An ironic one with no familiarity to self awareness. But it ends up being a self own as was very clearly and repeatedly pointed out in the replies to her tweet.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:31:48am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Trump response to Hurricane Maria is a bazillion times worse than Bush Katrina.

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Barges? In the Atlantic Ocean? That’s just nuts.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:34:05am

FFS

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:34:27am

re: #210 dangerman

The problem is that to the President there ARE two classes of citizenry: White and everyone else.

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Broad With Sass  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:42:38am

re: #174 FormerDirtDart

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and of course my alma mater is involved

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:43:39am

I really, really despise shady car importers/dealers. Especially those that buy up junk cars and do some “reconditioning” only to resell it for 3-4 times the original cost to scrupulous buyers ugh

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Stanley Sea  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #224 Broad With Sass

and of course my alma mater is involved

I can’t believe mine’s not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:44:46am
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Franklin  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:46:55am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Trump response to Hurricane Maria is a bazillion times worse than Bush Katrina.

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Reminded me of this joke:

“Giving Bush his daily war briefing, Donald Rumsfeld ended by saying: ‘Yesterday, three Brazilian soldiers were killed.’ ‘Oh no!’, exclaimed Bush. ‘That’s terrible.’ His staff were stunned by this display of emotion. Finally Bush raised his head from his hands and asked: ‘OK, so how many is a Brazillion?’”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:47:35am

Looks like Trump will visit Puerto Rico next Tuesday. After he’s done fundraising this week.

#priorities

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:47:52am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Trump response to Hurricane Maria is a bazillion times worse than Bush Katrina.

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And there were people that wanted Bush to resign over Katrina, even some conservatives!

Do we hear the same outrage among them with Trump being an unmitigated disaster for this country? *crickets

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gwangung  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:49:25am

re: #229 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like Trump will visit Puerto Rico next Tuesday. After he’s done fundraising this week.

#priorities

I find this the most menial of sins, however, given the destruction of infrastructure and resources. The slow response for aid is more maddening.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:49:28am

re: #230 electrotek

And there were people that wanted Bush to resign over Katrina, even some conservatives!

Do we hear the same outrage among them with Trump being an unmitigated disaster for this country? *crickets

Problem is that most Americans probably don’t even know that PR is part of the U.S.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:50:17am

re: #222 Dr. Matt

The Internet meanwhile is full of stories about Chinese tourists acting appallingly bad.

— parents letting their young children pee or poop anywhere, even in the streets or in the airplane aisles
— scarfing up 90% of the food at buffets to take back to their hotel rooms
— ignoring safety warnings and jumping over barriers to avoid paying money or to take “better pictures”
— opening up the emergency doors in airplanes parked at the gate, to bring some fresh air
— being generally loud and rude while traveling in tour groups

True, Americans can be offensive tourists, but we have not cornered the market.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:50:35am

re: #229 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like Trump will visit Puerto Rico next Tuesday. After he’s done fundraising this week.

#priorities

Hope he gets the PR treatment, San Juan style.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:51:20am

re: #232 Big Beautiful Door

Problem is that most Americans probably don’t even know that PR is part of the U.S.

Yep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:51:53am

re: #108 BigPapa

Dallas kneeled together before the NA, then stood up.

Does that mean they go both ways?

I assume this was meant to show that they personally want to honor the flag but also show solidarity with those who would do things differently…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:52:59am

re: #117 Woods Witch

Ratings for NFL football are way down except before game starts, when people tune in to see whether or not our country will be disrespected!

Ratings are everything in this world, Donnie!!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:54:45am

re: #207 lawhawk

…after he used a player’s credit card to run up $42,000 of charges on Uber.

How does one manage to do this in any rational time frame?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:56:14am

re: #232 Big Beautiful Door

Problem is that most Americans probably don’t even know that PR is part of the U.S.

That was a running gag for awhile in Sanford and Son back in the 1970’s. A minor character, Julio - played by Gregory Sierra - was the frequent target of Fred Sanford’s bigoted comments and his son Lamont (aka, “Big Dummy”) would remind Fred that Puerto Ricans were 1) not Mexicans and 2) US citizens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:56:43am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 8:59:06am

re: #233 wheat-dogg

The Internet meanwhile is full of stories about Chinese tourists acting appallingly bad.

— parents letting their young children pee or poop anywhere, even in the streets or in the airplane aisles
— scarfing up 90% of the food at buffets to take back to their hotel rooms
— ignoring safety warnings and jumping over barriers to avoid paying money or to take “better pictures”
— opening up the emergency doors in airplanes parked at the gate, to bring some fresh air
— being generally loud and rude while traveling in tour groups

True, Americans can be offensive tourists, but we have not cornered the market.

Maybe, but I wouldn’t make assumptions that internet anecdotes are accurate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:00:25am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If it was so important to you, you would have been talking about it all weekend instead of bitching at football players, you chode goblin.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:02:41am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

BTW, here’s a recent photo of Mr. Sierra - taken last year.

Looking good for 80; I hope I’ll be as lucky.

Gregory Sierra
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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:03:43am

NY Dean Skelos conviction on bribery overturned.

nydailynews.com

A federal appeals panel threw out the corruption convictions of former New York Senate majority leader Dean Skelos and his son, court documents revealed Tuesday.

Acting U.S. Attorney Joon Kim wasted no time in announcing that his office plans to retry the two men following the widely-expected ruling in the defendants’ favor.

Skelos and his son Adam successfully appealed their December 2015 convictions, arguing that prosecutors’ arguments conflicted with a recent U.S. Supreme Court interpretation of public corruption law.

The pair were convicted of bribery, extortion and conspiracy.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:03:51am

Resign.

He should not hold any position with significant power.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:06:15am

re: #245 JordanRules

Resign.

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He should not hold any position with significant power.

Brownsville? Why am I not surprised?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:06:42am

re: #245 JordanRules

If he were Republican: “It was just a joke. Lighten up. MAGA!!!”

F this guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:06:49am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:07:39am

Did anyone else catch this on Kimmel last night? NSFW

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:07:43am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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By that logic, why have laws against murder? Fucking moron should just stick to the ducks.

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Franklin  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:10:04am

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

Kumail for the win!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:10:52am

The Republicans: Y’all are just going to die anyway, so fuck y’all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:11:24am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:14:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:16:13am
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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:17:48am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

I was trying to hold my facepalms until later in the day. I only have so many I can use before it starts to look like I’m beating myself.

FFS America

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:18:20am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a big, beautiful ocean. The best ocean. I have some of my finest properties located along side of this ocean.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:18:31am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

I could totally imagine Trump saying, “A lot of people don’t know how big the Atlantic Ocean is. It’s huge….tremendous. Did you know the Pacific is actually bigger? How many people know that?”

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freetoken  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:18:54am

re: #256 JordanRules

Not sure the question that goes with the graphic bars actually fits the tweeted reply very well.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:19:15am

re: #256 JordanRules

Poll only Fox viewers and the “don’t know” total would be near 100%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:19:51am

re: #260 Skip Intro

Poll only Fox viewers and the “don’t know” total would be near 100%.

I wonder if Trump was aware until someone on his staff dared tell him…

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gwangung  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:20:24am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aren’t these meetings a bit late? Wouldn’t they be more timely last week?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:21:38am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:22:00am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

I could totally imagine Trump saying, “A lot of people don’t know how big the Atlantic Ocean is. It’s huge….tremendous. Did you know the Pacific is actually bigger? How many people know that?”

“Atlantis may be in Atlantic Ocean. Did you I know Greek people? I like gyros. The Greek people are great and against the EU.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:24:09am

ok….

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:24:57am

re: #259 freetoken

The link to the article in the same tweet is where the rest is but I see your point.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:24:57am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ok….

As if that’s a bad thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:26:29am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence warns Alaska that if Graham-Cassidy fails, they could end up with the health-care of “a place called Canada”:

I read that Sen. Murkowsi was offered a deal that would basically let Alaska and Hawaii keep ACA for themselves if she voted to take it away from the lower 48…

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gwangung  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:26:35am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ok….

Canada will say, “What kept you?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:26:39am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ok….

Fuck off Mike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:26:47am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:27:11am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

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Trump talks like a racist Dick and Jane book.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:27:16am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Snap.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:27:32am

re: #272 Big Beautiful Door

Trump talks like a racist Dick and Jane book.

Ouch but true.

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:27:40am

re: #241 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe, but I wouldn’t make assumptions that internet anecdotes are accurate.

Chinese tourists are frequently rude and uncouth, and I say this as someone who has travelled with them on many occasions. White people definitely don’t have the monopoly on being ugly tourists.

Also, I don’t quite get why the posted picture is racist. Is it the hats? Wearing touristy hats isn’t racist, surely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:28:25am
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Franklin  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:28:52am

re: #275 Renaissance_Man

It’s the comments.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:29:33am

re: #275 Renaissance_Man

Chinese tourists are frequently rude and uncouth, and I say this as someone who has travelled with them on many occasions. White people definitely don’t have the monopoly on being ugly tourists.

Also, I don’t quite get why the posted picture is racist. Is it the hats? Wearing touristy hats isn’t racist, surely.

Read their comments.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:29:41am

re: #275 Renaissance_Man

Chinese tourists are frequently rude and uncouth, and I say this as someone who has travelled with them on many occasions. White people definitely don’t have the monopoly on being ugly tourists.

Also, I don’t quite get why the posted picture is racist. Is it the hats? Wearing touristy hats isn’t racist, surely.

The “herro” in the comments.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:29:46am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Alabama friend this morning: “When the newscaster said to watch Roy Moore, I was waiting for him to do something odd.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:30:12am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

Forcing NFL players to their feet is no more about patriotism than pro-life is about babies

Because nothing says “patriotism” like watching a group of athletes participating in a public display they do not believe in out of fear of losing their jobs…

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:31:16am

re: #275 Renaissance_Man

Chinese tourists are frequently rude and uncouth, and I say this as someone who has travelled with them on many occasions. White people definitely don’t have the monopoly on being ugly tourists.

Also, I don’t quite get why the posted picture is racist. Is it the hats? Wearing touristy hats isn’t racist, surely.

Look at the comments that go with the pictures.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:32:15am

re: #241 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe, but I wouldn’t make assumptions that internet anecdotes are accurate.

They aren’t anecdotes. They are news stories, and the incidents have gotten so common that the government has published “how to be a polite tourist” pamphlets for tourists and the airlines now have a “blacklist” of unruly passengers who are barred from flying. The latest incident was in Singapore’s Changi Airport, where a Chinese tour group was met by members of the Chinese embassy and Singaporean foreign ministry, who gave them them brochures on how to behave while in Singapore.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:34:49am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

They aren’t anecdotes. They are news stories, and the incidents have gotten so common that the government has published “how to be a polite tourist” pamphlets for tourists and the airlines now have a “blacklist” of unruly passengers who are barred from flying. The latest incident was in Singapore’s Changi Airport, where a Chinese tour group was met by members of the Chinese embassy and Singaporean foreign ministry, who gave them them brochures on how to behave while in Singapore.

There used to be a lot of lore teaching American ex-pats in Italy how to pass for Canadian.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:35:36am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

They aren’t anecdotes. They are news stories, and the incidents have gotten so common that the government has published “how to be a polite tourist” pamphlets for tourists and the airlines now have a “blacklist” of unruly passengers who are barred from flying. The latest incident was in Singapore’s Changi Airport, where a Chinese tour group was met by members of the Chinese embassy and Singaporean foreign ministry, who gave them them brochures on how to behave while in Singapore.

OK, I’m just wary of stereotyping people based on stories on the internet. That is what he alt-right does. I’m particularly sensitive to the way the Chinese are being attacked by Trump because my kids are Chinese, not that Trump’s attacks on them are any more or less worse than his racist attacks on Mexicans, African-Americans and Jews.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:35:40am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

They aren’t anecdotes. They are news stories, and the incidents have gotten so common that the government has published “how to be a polite tourist” pamphlets for tourists and the airlines now have a “blacklist” of unruly passengers who are barred from flying. The latest incident was in Singapore’s Changi Airport, where a Chinese tour group was met by members of the Chinese embassy and Singaporean foreign ministry, who gave them them brochures on how to behave while in Singapore.

In Japan and HK, you can usually tell who is from the mainland: the side in which they walk on.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:35:57am

re: #275 Renaissance_Man

Click on the pic to see the whole thing. Not just the comments to the right, the caption under the pic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:36:04am

re: #284 Decatur Deb

There used to be a lot of lore teaching American ex-pats in Italy how to pass for Canadian.

Fortunately I have the accent to get away with that (coming from the Great Lakes region) and have even developed a set of manners to go along with it…

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:36:17am

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

OK, I’m just wary of stereotyping people based on stories on the internet. That is what he alt-right does. I’m particularly sensitive to the way the Chinese are being attacked by Trump because my kids are Chinese, not that Trump’s attacks on them are any more or less worse than his racist attacks on Mexicans, African-Americans and Jews.

There’s even intra-Chinese hatred, between Hong Kongers and mainlanders as well.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:36:25am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:37:23am

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

OK, I’m just wary of stereotyping people based on stories on the internet. That is what he alt-right does. I’m particularly sensitive to the way the Chinese are being attacked by Trump because my kids are Chinese, not that Trump’s attacks on them are any more or less worse than his racist attacks on Mexicans, African-Americans and Jews.

Did you remember I’ve lived in China for nine years?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:39:08am

re: #289 electrotek

There’s even intra-Chinese hatred, between Hong Kongers and mainlanders as well.

Just like the US, where the “Heartlanders” are trying to stick it to the “coastal elites.”

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:39:54am

re: #289 electrotek

There’s even intra-Chinese hatred, between Hong Kongers and mainlanders as well.

Oh, yeah. It’s a real thing. It only takes a few incidents for the idea to spread that all mainland visitors act like they grew up in a barn.

There’s probably some underlying resentment and fear about the mainland slowly absorbing Hong Kong politically, too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:40:47am

re: #291 wheat-dogg

Did you remember I’ve lived in China for nine years?

Did not, no.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:47:08am

Regarding misbehaving Chinese tourists: many of them, especially older Chinese, have never traveled much beyond their own provinces. In the countryside towns, it’s acceptable to hawk and spit in the street, smoke in public places or on the bus, allow little kiddies to pee or poop on the sidewalk, and talk louder than necessary in restaurants. So, these “country bumpkins” are mocked even in China’s big cities.

Now that China has a larger middle class, middle-aged and older Chinese can travel more widely, especially if their kids have been sending home lots of cash. And tour groups are a big thing, as older folks generally have no English skills at all.

One notable incident last month was a granny who, hoping to bring good luck to her first ride on a airplane, pitched some loose change into the jet’s engine before she walked up the stairs to the plane.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:47:33am

GOP’s “Middle Class relief” tax plan will include higher tax rates for the middle class and steep tax cuts for the rich. They also want to eliminate the deduction for state and local taxes to stick it to the blue states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:48:31am

re: #296 Big Beautiful Door

GOP’s “Middle Class relief” tax plan will include higher tax rates for the middle class and steep tax cuts for the rich. They also want to eliminate the deduction for state and local taxes to stick it to the blue states.

You mean the ones who are net contributors to the federal government’s coffers?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:48:58am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean the ones who are net contributors to the federal government’s coffers?

Exactly.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:49:27am

The Cultural Revolution did some rather untold damage to the Chinese.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:49:45am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

Did not, no.

And I’m going back next month for another year (or more) of teaching.

Where are your kids from in China? Would they like anything from their homeland as souvenirs?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:51:15am

re: #299 electrotek

The Cultural Revolution did some rather untold damage to the Chinese.

The Reagan Revolution did lot of damage to the Americans, Trump is proof of that…

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:51:45am

re: #209 Big Beautiful Door

Mike Pence lies that Graham-Cassidy gives the states “flexibility” denied them by the ACA, when he knows full well from his Medicaid expansion as Governor of Indiana that the ACA already provides the states plenty of flexibility to experiment. The only purpose served by Graham-Cassidy is to gut Medicaid funding in order to make it easier to pass massive tax cuts for billionaires.

I watched that CNN town hall thing last night in total frustration.

Bernie was trying but many times let Graham keep labeling him as a socialist. Klobuchar kept trying to bring it back to the middle saying that it was wrong to think you get only two choices, Graham-Cassidy or Bernie Sanders One Payer. She kept trying to say America wants the ACA improved. Graham would get all scary with his either you take Graham-Cassidy or it is over for healthcare in this country for 10 or more years. What?

But what really got me was no one asked the Republicans what they have done to make sure the ACA worked instead of what they have done to make it fail? No one asked them why the Republicans never worked with the Democrats and why that has caused lasting problems.

And freaking Cassidy was all about “we want to take it out of the hands of someone you don’t know in the federal government and put the money into the hands of someone you know in your state and each state can be different for the needs of their people.”

Like you pointed out. Medicaid expansion is individualized by the state. Ohio’s program is funded by the state but several large Insurance companies administer and run the programs and each person gets to choose who they go with.

Also, each state set up their own insurance exchanges the way they wanted for those that could afford regular health insurance. So a lot of it was already tailored to the states. And those were all done with real insurance companies not ‘big government’ control as Graham and Cassidy tried to portray it.

And Cassidy was very elusive on the pre-existing conditions part of his crappy legislation. He would not answer what guarantees people won’t be charged so much more they can’t afford the insurance for their condition. He kept saying the language of the bill says “it must be affordable.” By whose definition. But hey Cassidy is a doctor did you know.

Oh yeah, another frustrating part. Bernie mentioned cheap prescription drug prices in Canada and Europe and his hope that American pharmacies and hospitals could bby from foreign suppliers at their rates.

Graham got on his high horse and said something like ‘Canada is 1/10 the population and their needs do not compare to the volume of drugs needed in the U.S.’

Uh, Senator, why does Canada have cheaper drugs if they use less? In most businesses, the more you buy the better the rate. We are getting ripped off and you aren’t helping.

Again…none of the politicians and no one from CNN asked anything like that.

It was like a lot of townhall meetings. A mess and no one gets to ask real good questions…it’s the same old stuff all the time.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:52:04am

re: #299 electrotek

The Cultural Revolution did some rather untold damage to the Chinese.

The stories I’ve heard from older Chinese and their kids would make your hair stand on end. It was especially hard for Chinese who were well educated or were in “landlord families”, as the Red Guard decided they all needed to be re-educated.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:52:46am
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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:54:41am

re: #295 wheat-dogg

Regarding misbehaving Chinese tourists: many of them, especially older Chinese, have never traveled much beyond their own provinces. In the countryside towns, it’s acceptable to hawk and spit in the street, smoke in public places or on the bus, allow little kiddies to pee or poop on the sidewalk, and talk louder than necessary in restaurants. So, these “country bumpkins” are mocked even in China’s big cities.

Now that China has a larger middle class, middle-aged and older Chinese can travel more widely, especially if their kids have been sending home lots of cash. And tour groups are a big thing, as older folks generally have no English skills at all.

One notable incident last month was a granny who, hoping to bring good luck to her first ride on a airplane, pitched some loose change into the jet’s engine before she walked up the stairs to the plane.

When I was cycling across Kansas, we stopped in to the local sheriffs’ office to ask the condition of the shoulder of the highway in the next county. (Abandoned federal highway, single lane in each direction, shoulders changed at the county line; some gravel, some paved, some not even gravel.) The uniformed sheriff at the counter said, ‘I don’t know. I haven’t been there’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:55:03am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, shut the fuck up about Canadian healthcare Pence. Like you’ve ever lived a day under single payer.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:55:30am

re: #300 wheat-dogg

And I’m going back next month for another year (or more) of teaching.

Where are your kids from in China? Would they like anything from their homeland as souvenirs?

We got our daughter from Chongqing and our son from Fuzhou. They love Chinese souvenirs!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:58:16am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Did the DSLR design hit it’s nadir? Maybe you can’t go bigger than “full frame” in a body like that. Maybe 12 or 14 fps is it for a real shutter. Maybe 100mp makes no sense until you get a bigger sensor?

You can’t go bigger than a full frame sensor because the circle of light is determined by the 35mm lens format. Also while pixel pitch impacts the usable ISO range & thermal noise, it’s not the sensor size per se that’s the limiting factor here, it’s the resolving power of 35mm SLR lenses. You need really exceptional optics to get everything out of the 36 MP in my Nikon D810 and borderline impossible optics for the 45 MP in the replacement D850.

The good news for your purposes is that for 4K video SLR lenses are way more than adequate, it’s just that there’s a much smaller market for dedicated full 35mm sensor 4K bodies so you’re working against economy of scale.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:58:45am

re: #303 wheat-dogg

The stories I’ve heard from older Chinese and their kids would make your hair stand on end. It was especially hard for Chinese who were well educated or were in “landlord families”, as the Red Guard decided they all needed to be re-educated.

This has been on cable recently:

imdb.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:58:53am

re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, shut the fuck up about Canadian healthcare Pence. Like you’ve ever lived a day under single payer.

He’s had cushy government health insurance for years now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:59:36am

re: #310 Big Beautiful Door

He’s had cushy government health insurance for years now.

As has McConnell and Ryan.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 9:59:44am

So I predict Trump’s PR visit will go as follows:

- Shows up wearing stupid hat.
- Mentions how much he loves Puerto Rico and promises them “many great things to come, many great things.”
- Gets the photo op of him loading supplies onto a plane.
- Autographs the side of said plane
- Wishes PR good luck
- Flies away and is never sets foot on the island again (or at least not until the next disaster)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:00:21am

re: #310 Big Beautiful Door

He’s had cushy government health insurance for years now.

Yet another reason he needs to shut the fuck up.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:00:33am

With Neo-Nazis having won representation in the last election, Merkel is going to have difficulty forming a government.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:02:19am

re: #314 Big Beautiful Door

With Neo-Nazis having won representation in the last election, Merkel is going to have difficulty forming a government.

Nazis gaining power in the German government…we’ve been down this road before.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:02:32am

re: #312 Eclectic Cyborg

So I predict Trump’s PR visit will go as follows:

- Shows up wearing stupid hat.
- Mentions how much he loves Puerto Rico and promises them “many great things to come, many great things.”
- Gets the photo op of him loading supplies onto a plane.
- Autographs the side of said plane
- Wishes PR good luck
- Flies away and is never sets foot on the island again (or at least not until the next disaster)

Sounds like him yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:02:50am

re: #314 Big Beautiful Door

With Neo-Nazis having won representation in the last election, Merkel is going to have difficulty forming a government.

It’s scary what’s going on.

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electrotek  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:02:59am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

Nazis gaining power in the German government…we’ve been down this road before.

But but….they love the gays!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:03:29am

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

Yet another reason he needs to shut the fuck up.

This mashup of The Big Lebowski’s Walter Sobchak silencing Donald Trump is everything

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:03:42am

re: #314 Big Beautiful Door

With Neo-Nazis having won representation in the last election, Merkel is going to have difficulty forming a government.

That is because the Socialists do not want to form another grand coalition with her, as that would make the right-wing AfD the major opposition party. The SPD would rather be the major opposition party than a minor coalition partner.

But the AfD is already falling apart under the weight of its success…

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:05:17am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wanna rub that pupper’s tummy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:05:19am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

Nazis gaining power in the German government…we’ve been down this road before.

At least this time around, they know better than to form a coalition government with the nazis.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:06:16am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is because the Socialists do not want to form another grand coalition with her, as that would make the right-wing AfD the major opposition party. The SPD would rather be the major opposition party than a minor coalition partner.

But the AfD is already falling apart under the weight of its success…

That’s good to know. Do you have any details?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:07:24am

The revolution in China was well before my time…but Chairman Mao was a crazy motherfucker wasn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:09:21am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

The revolution in China was well before my time…but Chairman Mao was a crazy motherfucker wasn’t he?

Yes. I took a couple classes on Chinese history. Mrs. Mao though and the Gang of Four were even worse.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:09:56am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:10:39am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

The revolution in China was well before my time…but Chairman Mao was a crazy motherfucker wasn’t he?

Great swimmer, though.

scmp.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:10:43am

re: #326 JordanRules

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You know, I don’t know how Cuban calls himself a follower of Ayn Rand. He’s not. And that’s a good thing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:10:59am

re: #327 Decatur Deb

Great swimmer, though.

Ladies man too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:13:09am

re: #323 Big Beautiful Door

That’s good to know. Do you have any details?

They are already falling apart.

from the bbc

“AfD has only existed for four years and its leadership has gone through regular, turbulent changes. Its best known figures are currently Alice Weidel and Alexander Gauland. Frauke Petry was its most recognisable face, although she has apparently decided to go independent because of an internal party spat.”

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Alephnaught  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:17:49am

It’s official: Dyson is working on an electric car.

James Dyson to invest £2.5bn on ‘radically different’ electric car. (Link goes to The Guardian)

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:19:12am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:19:35am

Remember when Kim Davis was a conservative hero for refusing to her job because it bothered her “conscience” to give out SSM applications. And this was a state employee but yeah wingnuts we really believe you when you say people should just leave the free speech until you’re off the clock.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:19:53am

re: #332 JordanRules

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The X Presidents need to team up and kick Trump’s ass.

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Weaselone  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:20:03am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are already falling apart.

from the bbc

“AfD has only existed for four years and its leadership has gone through regular, turbulent changes. Its best known figures are currently Alice Weidel and Alexander Gauland. Frauke Petry was its most recognisable face, although she has apparently decided to go independent because of an internal party spat.”

OFFS. I should have guessed that if I looked at the election map the outline of old East Germany would be clearly identifiable.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:20:10am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is because the Socialists do not want to form another grand coalition with her, as that would make the right-wing AfD the major opposition party. The SPD would rather be the major opposition party than a minor coalition partner.

But the AfD is already falling apart under the weight of its success…

You might think the SPD would have learned from history, as it was their refusal to work with the KPD (Communist Party of Germany) to create a coalition gov’t that allowed the Nazis to get a major foothold in the Reichstag.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:22:52am

re: #335 Weaselone

OFFS. I should have guessed that if looked at the election map the outline of old East Germany would be clearly identifiable.

Pegida took hold mainly in eastern cities such as Dresden, and it is in the ex-communist east that AfD has had its biggest successes, attracting more men than any other party. Odd perhaps, in that the biggest concentrations of immigrants are not in those areas.

I don’t think that’s odd at all. Our biggest fears about immigrants and immigration come from areas where they make up a small percentage of the population. I believe Britain experienced the same with the Brexit vote. Interesting that the far right’s biggest appeal though is in the heart of the former DDR though.

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Alephnaught  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:24:27am

re: #335 Weaselone

OFFS. I should have guessed that if looked at the election map the outline of old East Germany would be clearly identifiable.

Blimey, even within Berlin. The highest vote for AfD in the city is in the old East Berlin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:24:50am

Make America Great Again!*

*Except Puerto Rico

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:25:58am

re: #336 Targetpractice

You might think the SPD would have learned from history, as it was their refusal to work with the KPD (Communist Party of Germany) to create a coalition gov’t that allowed the Nazis to get a major foothold in the Reichstag.

Germany is now saddled with two parties, both rooted in the East; one ex-communist and extreme leftist, and the other far right, and neither of which is acceptable as a coalition partner to any of the other parties.

The AfD seems to be made up of some politicians with a right-wing agenda, some who are extreme, uncompromising right-wing ideologues, and others who are a mixture of sociopaths, sadists and cryptofascists. Right now they enjoy the luxury of being the protest party, they do not have to present any viable programs, they can just oppose anything they do not like.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:27:31am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany is now saddled with two parties, both rooted in the East, one leftist and the other far right and neither of which is acceptable as a coalition partner to any of the other parties.

The AfD seems to be made up of some politicians with a right-wing agenda, some who are extreme, uncompromising right-wing ideologues, and others who are a mixture of sociopaths, sadists and cryptofascists. Right now they enjoy the luxury of being the protest party, they do not have to present any viable programs, they can just oppose anything they do not like.

Now that sounds like the Tea Party here before Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:28:46am

The new right seems to have a much bigger appeal to younger people than the old right did. That’s why we can’t hold our heads and think older generations dying will solve this. It won’t. It will take good men and women of all demographics to stop this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:29:38am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

Pegida took hold mainly in eastern cities such as Dresden, and it is in the ex-communist east that AfD has had its biggest successes, attracting more men than any other party. Odd perhaps, in that the biggest concentrations of immigrants are not in those areas.

I don’t think that’s odd at all. Our biggest fears about immigrants and immigration come from areas where they make up a small percentage of the population. I believe Britain experienced the same with the Brexit vote. Interesting that the far right’s biggest appeal though is in the heart of the former DDR though.

West Germans have been living with immigrants for decades. They have had their problems, but have generally learned to get along.

For that, the residents of East Germany knew only North Korean and Vietnamese guest workers and African exchange students until the the post-unification government started settling refugees among them, to which they reacted rather negatively, sometimes quite violently.

One of the AfD’s slogans is: “We have money to take in a million refugees, but we don’t have money to help our own poor!”

To which Gregor Gysi, leader of the Left Party, replied “Don’t worry, even without refugees, there would be no money for the poor!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:30:34am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Right. Last thing we need is some German asshole version of Trump taking power.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:31:37am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

West Germans have been living with immigrants for decades. They have their problems, but the residents of East Germany knew only North Korean and Vietnamese guest workers and African exchange students until the government started settling refugees among them, to which they reacted rather negatively, sometimes quite violently.

One of the AfD’s slogans is: “We have money to take in a million refugees, but we don’t have money to help our own poor!”

To which Gregor Gysi, leader of the Left Party replied “Don’t worry, even without refugees, there would be no money for the poor!”

Sort of like how our cities and suburbs have had diversity for years. When I was in Berlin last month by the way, I was in a pretty diverse neighborhood. One of my favorite places to get a late night bite was a burger place run by what I believe was a Turkish father and son, very nice guys who made a great burger for a good deal.

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:31:38am

I was just visited by a customer from back in the day. He still rides 30 miles a day, but it wears him out. He’s 84. He says he doesn’t know how he’s going to make that decision that he’s too old to ride anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:32:02am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

Right. Last thing we need is some German asshole version of Trump taking power.

Yep.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:32:36am

re: #307 Big Beautiful Door

We got our daughter from Chongqing and our son from Fuzhou. They love Chinese souvenirs!

Nowhere near me, but I’ll keep the souvenirs in mind. How old are they?

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Alephnaught  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:33:44am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The AfD seems to be made up of some politicians with a right-wing agenda, some who are extreme, uncompromising right-wing ideologues, and others who are a mixture of sociopaths, sadists and cryptofascists. Right now they enjoy the luxury of being the protest party, they do not have to present any viable programs, they can just oppose anything they do not like.

Sounds remarkably similar to UKIP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:34:06am

re: #349 Alephnaught

Sounds remarkably similar to UKIP.

cut from the same cloth

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ObserverArt  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:34:14am

re: #346 wrenchwench

I was just visited by a customer from back in the day. He still rides 30 miles a day, but it wears him out. He’s 84. He says he doesn’t know how he’s going to make that decision that he’s too old to ride anymore.

Tell him to ride 10 to 15 miles a day and think about it. Sounds as if he wants to keep going. Maybe cutting back a bit will help him keep at it.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:34:36am

re: #331 Alephnaught

I wonder if it’ll “suck” or not.

*bows*

Yep. I’ll show myself out.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:36:54am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cut from the same cloth

Seems to be the running theme for these “protest parties” that have popped up in the West: They have little in common besides an opposition to the idea that they have to share with anybody else.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:38:58am

Want a donut?

nypost.com

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Alephnaught  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:39:59am

re: #352 alloutofcrazyhere

I wonder if it’ll “suck” or not.

*bows*

Yep. I’ll show myself out.

Well, given their rather good range of hand dryers (eg Their “Airblade” range, which you can find everywhere in UK public toilets.), I’d say Dyson are experts in knowing how to both suck and blow.

Erm, i’ll get my coat…

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:40:21am

re: #351 ObserverArt

Tell him to ride 10 to 15 miles a day and think about it. Sounds as if he wants to keep going. Maybe cutting back a bit will help him keep at it.

I did talk about the availability of that option. He rides with a heart rate monitor, and lives elsewhere, where he has no hills to contend with, but he even says out loud that he can’t make the decision to slow down because he’s ‘getting’ old.

My dad could barely move his wheelchair at that age. And he didn’t make it to 85. I didn’t say that to this guy.

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Weaselone  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:40:53am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

Pegida took hold mainly in eastern cities such as Dresden, and it is in the ex-communist east that AfD has had its biggest successes, attracting more men than any other party. Odd perhaps, in that the biggest concentrations of immigrants are not in those areas.

I don’t think that’s odd at all. Our biggest fears about immigrants and immigration come from areas where they make up a small percentage of the population. I believe Britain experienced the same with the Brexit vote. Interesting that the far right’s biggest appeal though is in the heart of the former DDR though.

Right. There’s also the issue that the former DDR hasn’t exactly had a smooth ride when it came to reintegration. Initially, it went from what had been a relatively prosperous existence as a Soviet satellite to losing much of it’s industry and good paying jobs and being reduced to a welfare state dependent on the West. I’m assuming things have improved a bit since then, but it is still relatively less prosperous as a whole than the old FDR

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:41:53am

re: #356 wrenchwench

I did talk about the availability of that option. He rides with a heart rate monitor, and lives elsewhere, where he has no hills to contend with, but he even says out loud that he can’t make the decision to slow down because he’s ‘getting’ old.

My dad could barely move his wheelchair at that age. And he didn’t make it to 85. I didn’t say that to this guy.

Let him ride until he falls and can’t get up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:42:37am

re: #357 Weaselone

Right. There’s also the issue that the former DDR hasn’t exactly had a smooth ride when it came to reintegration. Initially, it went from what had been a relatively prosperous existence as a Soviet satellite to losing much of it’s industry and good paying jobs and being reduced to a welfare state dependent on the West. I’m assuming things have improved a bit since then, but it is still relatively less prosperous as a whole than the old FDR

Right, I have heard that. Isn’t there a phrase in German for DDR nostalgia?

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wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:43:47am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Let him ride until he falls and can’t get up.

I told him the one about how I’ve been telling people for 30 years that you never forget how to ride a bike, but have recently learned that I was wrong.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:47:13am

‘End of modern life’ in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria
Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments in the comment section of this Youtube video about the death and misery happening right now in Puerto Rico. These Right Wing Trolls are the lowest lifeforms on Earth.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:47:47am

re: #331 Alephnaught

It’s official: Dyson is working on an electric car.

James Dyson to invest £2.5bn on ‘radically different’ electric car. (Link goes to The Guardian)

Sometimes these guys don’t realize just how difficult it is to build a good automobile. it’l be interesting to see what he comes up with.

363
HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:49:03am

re: #361 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments in the comment section of this Youtube video about the death and misery happening right now in Puerto Rico. These Right Wing Trolls are the lowest lifeforms on Earth.

People are such assholes. Sigh.

364
goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:49:49am

LOL, Yashar tried it and got burned. I wanted to like the guy but honestly he’s just another lazy hack.

365
Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:50:29am

re: #336 Targetpractice

You might think the SPD would have learned from history, as it was their refusal to work with the KPD (Communist Party of Germany) to create a coalition gov’t that allowed the Nazis to get a major foothold in the Reichstag.

But they took a beating in the last election because their identity as social democrats has been disappearing in coalition with Merkel. Plus if they are in the government that makes the Nazis the opposition party.

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Skip Intro  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:50:49am

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:51:14am

re: #361 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments in the comment section of this Youtube video about the death and misery happening right now in Puerto Rico. These Right Wing Trolls are the lowest lifeforms on Earth.

Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments of ANY RANDOM VIDEO on Youtube, for example like on some first grade school recital or some outdoor nature video.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:52:32am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments of ANY RANDOM VIDEO on Youtube, for example like on some first grade school recital or some outdoor nature video.

That’s very true too. There’s a lot of ugly racist assholes out there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:53:01am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

Check out the racist, vile, hateful comments of ANY RANDOM VIDEO on Youtube, for example like on some first grade school recital or some outdoor nature video.

I never ever read Youtube comments

370
Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:53:18am

re: #362 Big Beautiful Door

Sometimes these guys don’t realize just how difficult it is to build a good automobile. it’l be interesting to see what he comes up with.

Hint: Don’t start from scratch.

371
Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:53:37am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

West Germans have been living with immigrants for decades. They have had their problems, but have generally learned to get along.

For that, the residents of East Germany knew only North Korean and Vietnamese guest workers and African exchange students until the the post-unification government started settling refugees among them, to which they reacted rather negatively, sometimes quite violently.

One of the AfD’s slogans is: “We have money to take in a million refugees, but we don’t have money to help our own poor!”

To which Gregor Gysi, leader of the Left Party, replied “Don’t worry, even without refugees, there would be no money for the poor!”

The thing is Germany is a rich country with plenty of money to help the poor. They just have a thing about being extremely fiscally conservative. The German government racking up surpluses is bad for Germany, Europe and the global economy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:54:35am

re: #346 wrenchwench

I was just visited by a customer from back in the day. He still rides 30 miles a day, but it wears him out. He’s 84. He says he doesn’t know how he’s going to make that decision that he’s too old to ride anymore.

30 miles a day at 84. That’s awesome!

373
Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:55:19am

re: #348 wheat-dogg

Nowhere near me, but I’ll keep the souvenirs in mind. How old are they?

My girl is almost 14, and my boy is 11.

374
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 26, 2017 • 10:56:19am

Starting any minute, if you dare:

President Trump Holds a Joint Press Conference with President Rajoy

Update, starting now.

375
wrenchwench  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:01:40am

re: #372 Big Beautiful Door

30 miles a day at 84. That’s awesome!

He’s the one I point to when those wimps in their 70s start whining about being too old.

376
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:02:12am

re: #355 Alephnaught

heya…did you see this over the weekend?

377
Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:02:33am

re: #326 JordanRules

Will ICE let them in?

You might think I’m snarking.

378
Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:02:38am

re: #374 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Starting any minute, if you dare:

President Trump Holds a Joint Press Conference with President Rajoy

Update, starting now.

Apparently another White House gaffe: Rajoy is a Prime Minister, not a President.

379
Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:03:23am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Let him ride until he falls and can’t get up.

My step-grandfather did that, and didn’t survive.

380
Shropshire Slasher  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:03:23am

re: #374 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Better, stronger, faster…

Intro - Six Million Dollar Man

381
JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:03:45am

re: #377 Belafon

You know that briefly crossed my mind too.

382
HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:04:37am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

heya…did you see this over the weekend?

[Embedded content]

That’s hilarious.

383
Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:04:53am

re: #379 Belafon

My step-grandfather did that, and didn’t survive.

FIL rode his Harley until he dropped it at 83. He couldn’t pick it up, so he sold it. Then he shot himself.

384
HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:04:59am

re: #378 Big Beautiful Door

Apparently another White House gaffe: Rajoy is a Prime Minister, not a President.

Yeah just noticed that. Whoops!

385
Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:05:39am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Yeah just noticed that. Whoops!

Par for the course for this Administration.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:06:53am

Think Progress really did a nice job on this.

Check out the thread and the database at TP.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:07:22am

re: #385 Big Beautiful Door

Par for the course for this Administration.

Yeah but Obama was an idiot because of 57 states according to Wingnuttia.

388
Belafon  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:08:53am

I saw on CNN that Roger Stone demanded that one of the Senators, a woman, apologize to him for something. I didn’t catch what, but I don’t think that’s important.

389
HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:09:12am

re: #388 Belafon

I saw on CNN that Roger Stone demanded that one of the Senators, a woman, apologize to him for something. I didn’t catch what, but I don’t think that’s important.

What a baby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:11:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:11:12am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

Pegida took hold mainly in eastern cities such as Dresden, and it is in the ex-communist east that AfD has had its biggest successes, attracting more men than any other party. Odd perhaps, in that the biggest concentrations of immigrants are not in those areas.

I don’t think that’s odd at all. Our biggest fears about immigrants and immigration come from areas where they make up a small percentage of the population. I believe Britain experienced the same with the Brexit vote. Interesting that the far right’s biggest appeal though is in the heart of the former DDR though.

“The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown”

― H.P. Lovecraft, Supernatural Horror in Literature

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b.d. (bill d.)  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:11:15am

re: #388 Belafon

I saw on CNN that Roger Stone demanded that one of the Senators, a woman, apologize to him for something. I didn’t catch what, but I don’t think that’s important.

Blank your Feelings Roger

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:11:39am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

But it snowed one February in Paul Ryan’s district!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:12:19am

re: #391 Dr Lizardo

“The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown”

― H.P. Lovecraft, Supernatural Horror in Literature

Yep. Those of us who experience diversity more are more welcome to it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:12:21am
396
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:13:17am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

GOP sources: Senate Republicans will not vote this week on latest health care bill.

you mean they are gonna wait on the CBO scoring?

ha ha ha

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:14:29am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean they are gonna wait on the CBO scoring?

ha ha ha

Who knows? There is no cheap stunt beneath them.

398
makeitstop  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:15:02am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

GOP sources: Senate Republicans will not vote this week on latest health care bill.

More arm-twisting and veiled threats are required.

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JordanRules  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:15:37am
400
Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:15:37am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

Well, IIRC, they only have until 9/30/17 to pass it, so it seems to me it’s effectively dead.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:17:33am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean they are gonna wait on the CBO scoring?

ha ha ha

That means its over, for now, because reconciliation rules expire at the end of the month. The GOP may try to combine “repeal and replace” with tax reform in the upcoming reconciliation window. Good luck with that.

402
danarchy  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:18:43am

re: #400 Dr Lizardo

Well, IIRC, they only have until 9/30/17 to pass it, so it seems to me it’s effectively dead.

They could bring it up again with reconciliation in the 2018 budget.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:19:31am

re: #402 danarchy

They could bring it up again with reconciliation in the 2018 budget.

Ah, OK. I’m not up with the arcana of Congress.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:19:35am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

LOL at “this week.” The reconciliation authority expires on Sunday, if they don’t pass it this week they aren’t passing it ever, because the next session’s budget and taxes reconciliation topics will get used up trying to pass their tax cuts.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:20:42am

re: #370 Decatur Deb

Hint: Don’t start from scratch.

[Embedded content]

Oh, sweet God, now I have to buy a lotto ticket so to buy an E type electric. I suppose it could be worse - they could have resurrected the XKSS on top of it all….

406
William Lewis  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:23:06am

re: #377 Belafon

Will ICE let them in?

You might think I’m snarking.

Domestic flight. They should not go anywhere near Customs Immigration & Secret State Police.

407
DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:27:57am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

That’s very true too. There’s a lot of ugly racist assholes out there.

But, but Dinesh D’Souza said racism doesn’t exist. He wrote a book about it.

408
wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2017 • 11:32:44am

re: #373 Big Beautiful Door

My girl is almost 14, and my boy is 11.

Got it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 26, 2017 • 12:43:29pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

What’s wrong with my emotional support spider:

[Embedded content]

Not a thing… as long as he stays VERY close to YOU.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2017 • 7:37:08am

re: #47 Charles Johnson


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