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S'latch  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:32:30pm

Thanks. I am preferring to get my news from comedians these days because it offsets the gravity of the abomination that is the state of our union.

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:35:42pm
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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:38:00pm

re: #2 jaunte

In other words, there seems to be literally no way of getting these folks to own up to their racism and trying will simply make them literally more racist out of spite.

And they’re FUCKING WINNING ON THIS.

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:39:05pm

re: #3 Citizen K

They can’t hold back the changes they fear, but they’re going to give it a shot.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:42:17pm

re: #4 jaunte

They can’t hold back the changes they fear, but they’re going to give it a shot.

They’re doing a damn good job of it as it is. They hold all the fucking cards and power and seem completely dead set on making it impossible to exist as a non-white person in America without literally becoming a second-class citizen, complete with the loss of vote, just, you know, without actually ‘losing’ the vote in the technical sense. Not until they own enough fucking states to crack open the constitution like they’ve wanted to forever.

EDIT: The problem is that, with the way Trump has been allowed to stack the judiciary, combined with the way the GOP has prevented Dems from filling vacancies themselves, we’re going to be living with the consequences of Trump legally for a generation, if not two. That means a lot of laws ensuring their vaunted white supremacy remains, and meaning we may not even get the elections we deserve because hey, fuck them, they’re not white, they’re literally lesser people by law according to the courts!!

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Kragar  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:45:07pm
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Belafon  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:46:49pm

re: #5 Citizen K

They’re doing a damn good job of it as it is. They hold all the fucking cards and power and seem completely dead set on making it impossible to exist as a non-white person in America without literally becoming a second-class citizen, complete with the loss of vote, just, you know, without actually ‘losing’ the vote in the technical sense. Not until they own enough fucking states to crack open the constitution like they’ve wanted to forever.

They won an important battle, for sure (and they won it because we - royal we - thought we’d won) but the war’s not over. And if we don’t stop them, it won’t be just non-whites. There are plenty of non-male or non-Christian or non-cheating-on-your-wife types in this country.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:49:22pm

re: #2 jaunte

RWers have gone off the deep end because progress follows an exponential curve, and thus they are decompensating (unable to adapt) at rapidly increasing rates.

“they” cannot stand the concept of seeing another point of view because that might mean adjusting theirs and that would mean they were wrong in the first place

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:50:26pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:52:14pm

I can’t even.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:52:33pm

re: #2 jaunte

It’s a irresponsible and stupid article. Calling someone a motherfucker doesn’t make him go and have carnal relations with his mother. As so many other writers do, the author claims that if liberals were only more selective with the label of bigot, conservatives would somehow feel less attacked.

This is utter bullshit.

The article does not entertain the possibility that conservative cultists feel more outraged and bigoted because the safe media environs they seek out tell them to be so. It fails to realise that giving bigots safe spaces where their beliefs won’t be attacked is exactly what perpetuates bigotry in the first place - failing to challenge long-held beliefs. Conservative cultists are told constantly that their prejudices are normal and to be angry at liberals for attacking them, whether those attacks are real or imagined. Just like Nazis, they will be angry and hateful whether you punch them or simply protest quietly.

It is in the nature of an arsehole to double down on being so when that belief is challenged or shamed. I submit that it is a phenomenon unique to those in privileged positions, whether that be by virtue of wealth or skin colour. If you have been treated with undeserved privilege your entire life, your natural response to being challenged is going to be to snap back, rather than self-reflection. That’s too bad, but it doesn’t mean that we should continue to coddle the tender fee-fees of bigots and other scum.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:56:55pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

The goddamned Nazi is complaining that Jews are pointing out that he’s a goddamned Nazi.

That’s rich.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:58:39pm

re: #10 GlutenFreeJesus

Obama inherits the Great Recession.

Trump inherits the Obama economy.

Yeah, they’re exactly the same.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:58:43pm

re: #10 GlutenFreeJesus

I can’t even.

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im running out of patience
if i tweeted:

“you must be just a plain liar because no one could be this stupid”

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 12:59:22pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I’m waiting on their new Nazi Bible to be published where Jesus sports a swastika tattoo and and wears khakis and a white polo shirt.

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:00:12pm

I guess we now have members asking others to think there is no hope in doing anything about Trump. I don’t get it.

See the last thread, comments #442, 446 and my question in 449. I gotta run.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:02:13pm

JFC

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:02:35pm

re: #4 jaunte

They can’t hold back the changes they fear, but they’re going to give it a shot.

Literally.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:04:56pm

re: #13 lawhawk

Obama inherits the Great Recession.

Trump inherits the Obama economy.

Yeah, they’re exactly the same.

I mean, how the fuck do you reach through to people that support ones like this?

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:05:14pm

re: #2 jaunte

Put more simply, there’s a reason they fear being called a bigot: the positions they’ve adopted/adapted as their own, are bigoted.

Their stance on bathroom usage? It’s government so small it fits in the bathroom stall (the very opposite of small government and limited government).

Abortion rights? The same - and it deprives women of their rights all to force women to give birth at same time GOP are depriving millions of access to health coverage.

Racial discrimination? GOP treats it as though it doesn’t even exist, especially police engaging in discriminatory acts.

Title IX in colleges? DeVos is trying to eliminate reporting requirements so abuse and harassment can continue.

Pointing out that Trump is affirmatively quoting white supremacists, KKK, Nazis? Yeah, that makes you the bigot, not Trump. Trump’s the one who thinks the Nazis and the persons protesting them are equal.

Trump’s the one who is recycling Nazis talking points - the America First slogan is straight out of the anti Semitic playbook.

America First is a xenophobic and nativist position that white supremacists and KKKers are espousing along with the Nazis.

Essentially throttling legal immigration while moving to deport millions who have overstayed visas? Yeah, that too is xenophobic and nativist.

Build a wall? The same.

Everywhere you look, this administration is pursuing a hateful agenda.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:05:34pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

You don’t.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:12:21pm

re: #20 lawhawk

It’s too bad there aren’t hate detox centers. In lots of ways these people act like addicts. The denial, lying, getting agitated or violent when confronted with their shit, etc.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:12:21pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

I mean, how the fuck do you reach through to people that support ones like this?

you write. them. off.

from the last thread, rephrased (jo nesbo the original):

a person should not be punished for showing no consideration towards an idiot behaving like an idiot

there are two ways to build “market share” as it were
1 take from the other guy (reach these people)
2 expand the pie - reach the unaffiliated and non-participating

two is way way easier
has way way more potential
because its both way way bigger and they are in fact “reachable”

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:13:13pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:13:32pm

re: #2 jaunte

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“By being so mean to bigots and racists, you make conservatives feel bad and internalize their anger!”

“So, what’s the solution?”

“Internalize your anger so conservatives don’t feel like you’re picking on them for being racists and bigots!”

FFS

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:14:34pm

re: #24 lawhawk

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The party of Limbaugh should not be playing feminist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:15:59pm

re: #2 jaunte

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If conservatives are so afraid of being called bigots, they could stop ya know being bigots. Not all conservatives are bigots but many are and show it through their own words.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:16:26pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I’m all for pointing and out of control laughter when people say flat out stupid shit like this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:17:01pm

Btw that study sorta takes the snow out of snowflakes and safe spaces eh?

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:17:22pm

Shot:

Chaser:

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:18:13pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:18:58pm

And 2 day laters Fox is still ranting….

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:19:22pm

re: #30 Scottish Dragon

Shot:

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Sadly, all the talk about a “constitutional crisis” at this point seems…well, pointless because the GOP is making pretty clear they’re prepared to tear apart the country to keep an unpopular, criminal president* in office. Even suggesting that his “enemies” be purged from federal law enforcement agencies.

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Interesting Times  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:19:36pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

“By being so mean to bigots and racists, you make conservatives feel bad and internalize their anger!”

“So, what’s the solution?”

“Internalize your anger so conservatives don’t feel like you’re picking on them for being racists and bigots!”

Indeed. Today’s “conservatives” are (in true IMAX-projection mode) the very thing they purport to despise: whiny, entitled, hypersensitive snowflakes. Waaah! You called me a racist, so now, I’m totally going to become one! That’ll show YOU!!1!!

It’s like the discussion in a thread here yesterday, about how all these “this is why trump won” takes make trump voters look like horrendously childish and spiteful sociopaths with a permanent case of oppositional-defiant disorder.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:19:51pm

re: #30 Scottish Dragon

Shot:

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Related- Jerome Corsi will have a shitty book and D’Sousa will have an equally shitty movie.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:20:48pm

re: #24 lawhawk

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from that same story and apropos of weinstein v wynn

.. RNC Chair Ronna Romney McDaniel has stated that the organization would return the million dollars, or more, of donations by billionaire Wynn once he has had “due process,” though it is unclear what that would actually entail, or if he would ever even see a day in court.

Additionally, McDaniel had this to say regarding Harvey Weinstein’s donations to the DNC back when he was embroiled in a sexual misconduct controversy:

Weinstein lined Democrat pockets with millions of dollars,” she wrote in October. “If the DNC truly stands up for women like they say they do, then returning Weinstein’s dirty money should be a no-brainer.”

my bolds and italics

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:22:06pm

re: #31 jaunte

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My mom’s parents fortunately just missed the cut off. Who knows how many Holocaust victims we condemned to death with the 1924 Act.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:22:19pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Put more simply, there’s a reason they fear being called a bigot: the positions they’ve adopted/adapted as their own, are bigoted.

Case in point: Rod Dreher’s meltdown at his blog a couple days ago when Sarah Jones at The New Republic reviewed some of his work, and provided numerous quotes from him to back her analysis up….

theamericanconservative.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:23:38pm

re: #30 Scottish Dragon

Shot:

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Wholly fuck.

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scottslemmons  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:23:44pm

re: #38 Scottish Dragon

Case in point: Rod Dreher’s meltdown at his blog a couple days ago when Sarah Jones at The New Republic reviewed some of his work, and provided numerous quotes from him to back her analysis up….

theamericanconservative.com

Didn’t the American Conservative used to be the honorable Republican magazine?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:24:26pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

JFC

And Rage Furby, the real reason why Gawker was brought to its knees, isn’t mentioned once in that article! LIBEL!

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:24:36pm

re: #40 scottslemmons

Didn’t the American Conservative used to be the honorable Republican magazine?

Pat Buchanan has been there for years, so probably not.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:27:59pm

I happen to be reading Jo Nesbo’s “Nemesis” and the topic of narcissim just came up:

‘Freud introduced the concept of a narcissist to psychology, a person with an exaggerated sense of uniqueness, obsessed by the dream of boundless success. For the narcissist the need for revenge against those who have affronted him or her is often greater than all other needs. It is called the”narcissist’s rage”. The American psychoanalyst Heinz Kohut has described how such a person would seek to avenge the affront-which may seem a mere bagatelle to us-with whatever means they have at their disposal. For instance, what would seem on the surface to be a standard rejection might result in the narcissist working tirelessly, with a compulsive determination, to redress the balance, causing death if necessary.’
‘Death to whom?’ Harry asked.
‘To all.’
That’s insane,’ Beate burst out.
‘In fact, that’s what I’m saying,’ Aune said drily.

as usual, bolds and itals mine

do i have to point out who i think this refers to?

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:33:24pm

re: #43 dangerman

with whatever means they have at their disposal

“Ask your wife how it feels being a loser.”

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Nyet  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:36:56pm
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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:38:44pm
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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:41:44pm

Answering the Toady Call:

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mmmirele  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:43:13pm

re: #38 Scottish Dragon

Case in point: Rod Dreher’s meltdown at his blog a couple days ago when Sarah Jones at The New Republic reviewed some of his work, and provided numerous quotes from him to back her analysis up….

theamericanconservative.com

Rod Dreher fancies himself a Christian. I think he needs to have a chat with the crucified Jew from a Roman-occupied land about his overwhelming racism. And then work on his sexism, and, while he’s at it, work on his heterosexual privilege.

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gocart mozart  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:43:45pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now:
[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

]
God deleted the tweet, it was a joke about Jesus.

Did you know that God follows only one twitter account and it is Justin Beiber

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Dr. Matt  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:43:55pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:44:27pm

re: #48 mmmirele

Rod Dreier fancies himself a Christian. I think he needs to have a chat with the crucified Jew from a Roman-occupied land about his overwhelming racism. And then work on his sexism, and, while he’s at it, work on his heterosexual privilege.

That will never happen. Dreher is the kind of bigot whose ‘religion’ has no other purpose than to rationalize his bigotry.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:44:48pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

And 2 day laters Fox is still ranting….

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Don’t you know, Hillary is the reason the Grammy ratings were down as well. Those 5 seconds had a hell of an effect.

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freetoken  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:45:48pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

That will never happen. Dreher is the kind of bigot whose ‘religion’ has no other purpose than to rationalize his bigotry.

But, his religion does have other purposes than to rationalize his bigotry.

Namely, his view of women.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:46:36pm

re: #47 jaunte

Answering the Toady Call:

Sitting in the aisle to score a sweet, sweet handshake with POTUS approximately 4 and a half hours prior to the speech are:

-Matt Gaetz
-Billy Long
-Mark Walker
-Louie Gohmert
-Mike Johnson

i wonder how much they’ve paid

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:46:58pm

re: #52 BeachDem

Don’t you know, Hillary is the reason the Grammy ratings were down as well. Those 5 seconds had a hell of an effect.

And people knew, before they watched, that she was going to be on.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:47:11pm

re: #54 dangerman

i wonder how much they’ve paid

Their noses are brown.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:47:36pm
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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:48:46pm

re: #56 Belafon

Just their noses?

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:49:22pm

I’d love to see Gosar try and get a US Servicemember whose status is questioned removed.

Trump and the GOP were intent on doing just that.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:49:39pm

re: #55 Belafon

And people knew, before they watched, that she was going to be on.

But of course—they’re all prescient! (Most of them are barely sentient)

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:50:19pm

re: #55 Belafon

And people knew, before they watched, that she was going to be on.

…so they didnt watch!

nielsen et al track ratings throughout the show - ie in real time - ratings are not a yes/no did someone watch or not at all

the reporting is, the actual ratings arent - just like any other poll, its in the details

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:51:19pm

re: #56 Belafon

Their noses are brown.

Probably the only way Gaetz can make sure he doesn’t get a dui on the way to the venue.

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fern01  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:58:20pm

re: #36 dangerman

from that same story and apropos of weinstein v wynn

my bolds and italics

Republicans get due process, democrats are instantly guilty.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:58:39pm

re: #50 Dr. Matt

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The reality for this nation is that the GOP care about only one thing: power. Specifically the accumulation and retention of power. Trump is giving them a taste of power that they have fantasized about for decades, of a party that can weather a major political scandal due to public indifference and political malaise combining to drive down voter participation. Even those who aren’t openly supporting him are prepared to go to bat for him for fear that they will anger the base. For all the talk during the previous 8 years about how Dems viewed Obama as a “messiah,” Reps are prepared to elevate Trump to God-Emperor if it means unrestricted power.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:59:46pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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The GOP’s new slogan: “Where are your papers? Show me your papers!”

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 1:59:53pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:06:14pm

I forgot to mention this but over the weekend Dana Perino followed me ??!!

I have no fucking idea why. My most famous follower and it’s a Fox News personality/Bush professional liar.

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gocart mozart  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:11:34pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:16:06pm

re: #23 dangerman

you write. them. off.

from the last thread, rephrased (jo nesbo the original):

there are two ways to build “market share” as it were
1 take from the other guy (reach these people)
2 expand the pie - reach the unaffiliated and non-participating

two is way way easier
has way way more potential
because its both way way bigger and they are in fact “reachable”

Unfortunately, they vote. Just like we do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:18:01pm

I’d give about 10:1 odds a fistfight will break out among attendees at SOTU tonight.

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freetoken  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:19:06pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d give about 10:1 odds a fistfight will break out among attendees at SOTU tonight.

Now there’s an event that PaddyPower missed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:20:58pm

re: #30 Scottish Dragon

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EPR-radar  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:21:30pm

re: #53 freetoken

But, his religion does have other purposes than to rationalize his bigotry.

Namely, his view of women.

Dreher’s religion is completely patriarchal. So that is totally consistent with the ‘For Dreher, religion = rationalizing his bigotry’ thesis.

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:25:06pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:27:56pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:28:44pm

re: #74 jaunte

I admit I no longer find Trump funny. We’re in deep shit and it’s not a joking matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

ok……….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:32:13pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok……….

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Responsible gun owner!

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:33:01pm

re: #63 fern01

Republicans get due process, democrats are instantly guilty.

and in this one small area the dems never learn

these days it’s unfortunate that what might be “the right thing to do” can also be terrible politics

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:34:44pm

re: #67 gocart mozart

I forgot to mention this but over the weekend Dana Perino followed me ??!!

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I have no fucking idea why. My most famous follower and it’s a Fox News personality/Bush professional liar.

best you behave yourself

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:35:59pm

jeebus

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CongoJack  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:39:09pm

…. balls
Russia’s Sanctioned Spy Chief Reportedly Met CIA Director in the U.S.
per dailybeast

I’m getting heart burn from all this shit.

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:39:34pm

re: #69 GlutenFreeJesus

Unfortunately, they vote. Just like we do.

yes they do

im saying the pie is not “voters” the pie is eligible voters

there arent enough of “them” to convert, and the work required (the cost per) to get the few is very high
there is a much riper and larger market in solidifying the voting of registered left / left leaners who stray third party or protest or abstain AND the population of non registered voters

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Stanley Sea  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:40:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:40:30pm
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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:41:32pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

College tennis player suspended after telling black opponent ‘at least I know my dad’ during match

he was probably losing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:42:05pm

re: #86 dangerman

he was probably losing

well, he is definitely a loser in any event.

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CongoJack  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:43:18pm

re: #82 CongoJack

I dont trust the CIA - the FBI sure - but the CIA and Pompeo as its lead. I smell a rat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:44:20pm

I don’t what this is right now on CNN but it makes me want to puke.

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plansbandc  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:45:18pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Felt that way the moment he “won”.

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CongoJack  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:46:35pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Felt that was at the debates when he opined about starting WW3.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:48:36pm

I can’t link from my phone, but Wonkette has quite the disgusting profile(with links) of Paul Manafort.

He’s an even bigger piece of shit than I thought.

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Skip Intro  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:49:09pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Felt that way the moment he “won”.

Back then I still had some hope the GOP would contain him. That didn’t last long.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:50:02pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Everyone’s just too sensitive these days. //

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prairiefire  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:51:32pm

I heard on my local alternative radio station an ad for a Stormy Daniels show at a local strip club, !

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:52:01pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:53:14pm
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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:53:31pm

re: #96 Ace-o-aces

You realize the black player probably would’ve gotten expelled if he did that, right, knowing trends?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:54:13pm

So I’m saying there will be at least 15 mentions of Hillary tonight in the speech.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:55:03pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’m saying there will be at least 15 mentions of Hillary tonight in the speech.

And at least 2 hours on CNN at least about Hillary ‘refusing to go away’ as a result, probably.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:55:15pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wonder who he voted for…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:56:16pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

I can’t link from my phone, but Wonkette has quite the disgusting profile(with links) of Paul Manafort.

He’s an even bigger piece of shit than I thought.

wonkette.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:58:30pm
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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:59:17pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

I admit I no longer find Trump funny. We’re in deep shit and it’s not a joking matter.

I can feel that, but remember, Trump feeds on indignation and pain. He can’t stand being mocked.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 2:59:20pm

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

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*sigh* Let me guess, he’s been pushing for the release of this memo for no other reason than Faux News is calling for its release.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:04:16pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹
Thanks!

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jaunte  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:06:04pm

Here comes your Amazon delivery.

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:07:59pm

re: #22 A Mom Anon

It’s too bad there aren’t hate detox centers. In lots of ways these people act like addicts. The denial, lying, getting agitated or violent when confronted with their shit, etc.

The thing about addicts is there really isn’t anything you can do to help them until they decide to change.

Shit. The analogy holds up there too.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:08:05pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) _ Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour arrested with loaded handgun at security checkpoint in airport.
— Ken Thomas (@KThomasDC) January 30, 2018

Someone is going to lose their pre-TSA status…..

….but he’ll continue to be able to legally own firearms…..because ‘Merica.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:13:10pm
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LastYearsMan  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:13:29pm

Bad news regarding Korea. WH has apparently withdrawn Victor Cha’s nomination to be ambassador to Korea … because he was too dovish about possible strikes against the North. Bad bad bad.

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:13:51pm

re: #47 jaunte

Part of me would love to see someone on the aisle refuse to shake Trump’s hand. Another part of me (or perhaps the same part of me) would love to see some member of Congress just walk out of the speech when he says something particularly terrible. In part because I don’t think Trump would handle that well.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:14:25pm

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

What happened to the one response from Kennedy? I know Sanders came in to bigfoot on it, but where are the other 3 coming from?

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:15:57pm

re: #111 LastYearsMan

Bad news regarding Korea. WH has apparently withdrawn Victor Cha’s nomination to be ambassador to Korea … because he was too dovish about possible strikes against the North. Bad bad bad.

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I totally expect that strike to happen before November, because the GOP feels that the “rally ‘round the flag” effect is their best way to rapidly build public support.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:18:57pm
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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:22:50pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

I totally expect that strike to happen before November, because the GOP feels that the “rally ‘round the flag” effect is their best way to rapidly build public support.

After 17 years of near constant war, I’m guessing the public would not respond the way the GOP thinks it would.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:24:37pm

re: #106 A Mom Anon

Thanks!

You’re welcome, Mom. (Wait, you’re not my mom, are you?) /s

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:25:59pm

re: #116 KGxvi

After 17 years of near constant war, I’m guessing the public would not respond the way the GOP thinks it would.

What’s really going to hurt the GOP is not the constant warfare, but the subsequent leveling of Seoul as well as the potential for a shooting war with China. This isn’t some hypothetical strike on Iran where the worst we have to worry about is pissing off the locals. We’re talking the potential for plunging the entire region into a state of open warfare when we are in no real position to prosecute such a war.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:26:11pm

Evening Lizardim. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:26:15pm

And speaking of assholes, Bibi thinks Jared is “the man” to bring peace in the middle east due to his real estate prowess. And then he called on the Palestinians to “stop kvetching.”

Ugh.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:27:40pm

re: #97 Ace-o-aces

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Right…like Trump will actually read the memo (but he’ll say that he knows all about it, “better than most, actually”), and he will ignore or override anyone that suggests it shouldn’t be released.

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allegro  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:27:54pm

re: #119 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. How go things among the lizardfolk?

I think the general consensus is we’re doomed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:29:58pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

I totally expect that strike to happen before November, because the GOP feels that the “rally ‘round the flag” effect is their best way to rapidly build public support.

It may also be that Trump simply will not fill the South Korean ambassadorship, considering the trade pissing match he’s put us in with them.

Trump has been busy trying to destroy the effectiveness of the State Department, and South Korea is an important ally.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:32:54pm

re: #122 allegro

I think the general consensus is we’re doomed.

Welp, better make sure I get some tonight then.///

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:34:31pm

OT:

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:34:33pm

re: #111 LastYearsMan

Bad news regarding Korea. WH has apparently withdrawn Victor Cha’s nomination to be ambassador to Korea … because he was too dovish about possible strikes against the North. Bad bad bad.

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Oh dear! There is really only one solution in the current political climate: Kim and his South Korean rivals need to set aside their many disputes, recognize their common interest in staying alive, and pool their resources to buy their own Republican shills and agents of influence. Congressmen or a national network like Fox might be prohibitively expensive, but any number of bloggers, conspira-liars and Texas school boards could be bought in car-load lots, achieving saturation by weight of numbers.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:35:00pm

re: #113 Citizen K

What happened to the one response from Kennedy? I know Sanders came in to bigfoot on it, but where are the other 3 coming from?

There’s a Spanish language response, via Elizabeth Guzman, former Democratic Maryland Rep. Donna Edwards will also speak on behalf of the Working Families Party, Maxine Waters is issuing a response on a BET special Wednesday

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:37:01pm

re: #122 allegro

I think the general consensus is we’re doomed.

We were all born doomed. The questions are: How will we spend our time, and what price will we exact?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:37:40pm

re: #127 FormerDirtDart

There’s a Spanish language response, via Elizabeth Guzman, former Democratic Maryland Rep. Donna Edwards will also speak on behalf of the Working Families Party, Maxine Waters is issuing a response on a BET special Wednesday

And therein lies the problem.

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:38:13pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

What’s really going to hurt the GOP is not the constant warfare, but the subsequent leveling of Seoul as well as the potential for a shooting war with China. This isn’t some hypothetical strike on Iran where the worst we have to worry about is pissing off the locals. We’re talking the potential for plunging the entire region into a state of open warfare when we are in no real position to prosecute such a war.

Something something land war in Asia something something

On a more serious note, yeah, you’re right. My sense is that nobody (except possibly Trump) wants a war in Asia, including North Korea. The Kim regime has always been about self-preservation, and there’s a legitimate argument to be made that pursuit of nuclear weapons is an action for self-preservation. Nations with nuclear weapons don’t get invaded, instead they seem to get a seat at the table (at least regionally). North Korea also has to know if it launches a war, China is more likely to cut them loose than to support them. But on the flip side, we should know that if we start a fight, China is likely to support North Korea - and it would devastate our relationships with just about everyone in the region, in particular South Korea and Japan, two of our better trade partners.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:40:33pm

re: #122 allegro

I think the general consensus is we’re doomed.

We’re DOOMed….

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:41:14pm

re: #129 Decatur Deb

And therein lies the problem.

Has been the same since the days of Will Rogers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:42:08pm

Conservatives focusing on the important stuff by wasting time and money.

Dear South Carolina Governor McMaster: My service was to the Constitution, that piece of parchment conservatives pray to and then ignore, just like the Bible. That includes the pesky part in the I Amendment that starts “Congress shall make no law… .”

Take your proclamation and your fake patriotism and dig around in the couch cushions for some roubles.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:43:09pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives focusing on the important stuff by wasting time and money.

Dear South Carolina Governor McMaster: My service was to the Constitution, that piece of parchment conservatives pray to and then ignore, just like the Bible. That includes the pesky part in the I Amendment that starts “Congress shall make no law… .”

Take your proclamation and your fake patriotism and dig around in the couch cushions for some roubles.

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It’s South Carolina. Which flag are they standing for?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:43:35pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives focusing on the important stuff by wasting time and money.

Dear South Carolina Governor McMaster: My service was to the Constitution, that piece of parchment conservatives pray to and then ignore, just like the Bible. That includes the pesky part in the I Amendment that starts “Congress shall make no law… .”

Take your proclamation and your fake patriotism and dig around in the couch cushions for some roubles.

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I got news for the Governor: The outdoor temperature at kickoff is going to be in the single digits. Anyone you see outside the stadium who happens to be standing will be frozen stiff.

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meteor  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:43:43pm

re: #48 mmmirele
re: #128 Decatur Deb

Jimony pete, I thought I was depressed.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:44:17pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives focusing on the important stuff by wasting time and money.

Dear South Carolina Governor McMaster: My service was to the Constitution, that piece of parchment conservatives pray to and then ignore, just like the Bible. That includes the pesky part in the I Amendment that starts “Congress shall make no law… .”

Take your proclamation and your fake patriotism and dig around in the couch cushions for some roubles.

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I fully intend to watch the Superbowl the way God intended: With my ass firmly planted to the couch until the final second ticks down, with the only exception being a bathroom break during half-time.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:44:56pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Part of me would love to see someone on the aisle refuse to shake Trump’s hand. Another part of me (or perhaps the same part of me) would love to see some member of Congress just walk out of the speech when he says something particularly terrible. In part because I don’t think Trump would handle that well.

Or jerk Trump’s arm toward themselves - LOL.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:45:10pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

It’s South Carolina. Which flag are they standing for?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:45:25pm

re: #136 meteor

Jimony pete, I thought I was depressed.

That’s not depression, it’s math.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:45:42pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

The only people standing for the anthem at home will be assholes filming it for social media to prove how “patriotic” they are.

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:46:04pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

South Carolina, the state that flew the confederate battle flag over it’s statehouse for the second half of the 20th century and the first decade and a half of the 21st century… yeah, we don’t need to hear about patriotism from you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:47:55pm

Gov. McMaster is getting hammered on his Twitter feed over his post, especially from veterans.

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prairiefire  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:48:17pm

re: #119 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. How go things among the lizardfolk?

About 3 weeks to Planet Comic Con.

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prairiefire  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:49:07pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

That’s really, really, great.

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meteor  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:49:47pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

I don’t get it, but there is no answer to that.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:49:59pm

re: #144 prairiefire

About 3 weeks to Planet Comic Con.

3 weeks to CPAC 2018.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:50:22pm

re: #146 meteor

I don’t get it, but there is no answer to that.

Everyone dies. How long it takes to get there is partially under our control.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:50:48pm

re: #144 prairiefire

About 3 weeks to Planet Comic Con.

Our comic con got canceled this year. I has a major sad. We are looking for alternative cons in the area to attend.

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meteor  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:51:38pm

re: #148 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Huh?

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:52:16pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

Gov. McMaster is getting hammered on his Twitter feed over his post, especially from veterans.

Good! I’m damn near tempted to actually sign up for Twitter just to add my (checks bank account… Hmm) (2 Canadian Dollars I found on the floor?) to the pile-on.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:52:42pm

re: #142 KGxvi

South Carolina, the state that flew the confederate battle flag over it’s statehouse for the second half of the 20th century and the first decade and a half of the 21st century… yeah, we don’t need to hear about patriotism from you.

And just in case anyone dares to applaud Icky Nikki for her bold action in taking the flag down after the Charleston massacre, I just want this on the record:

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:52:58pm

re: #148 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Everyone dies. How long it takes to get there is partially under our control.

I like that. A new quote to put in my prayer book :)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:55:40pm

re: #153 William Lewis

I like that. A new quote to put in my prayer book :)

And shockingly enough, I totally pulled it out of my own head. Though I also doubt I’m the first to say it.

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meteor  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:57:33pm

Okay, I give up. Thread’s too depressing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:59:05pm

re: #151 William Lewis

Good! I’m damn near tempted to actually sign up for Twitter just to add my (checks bank account… Hmm) (2 Canadian Dollars I found on the floor?) to the pile-on.

I have CAN$150 in my wallet, but you’ll have to come to Nebraska to get it. Can you get here on $2?

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:59:14pm

re: #138 BlueSpotinAL

Or jerk Trump’s arm toward themselves - LOL.

A congressperson making the jerk off motion getting caught on camera would automatically be my favorite for 2020, regardless of party or record.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2018 • 3:59:23pm

re: #155 meteor

Okay, I give up. Thread’s too depressing.

Swansea beat Arsenal, so there’s that if you’re a Swansea fan.

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:00:04pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Part of me would love to see someone on the aisle refuse to shake Trump’s hand. Another part of me (or perhaps the same part of me) would love to see some member of Congress just walk out of the speech when he says something particularly terrible. In part because I don’t think Trump would handle that well.

Imagine a “YOU LIE!” That’s what I want to see. He’ll lose his shit. Completely. No teleprompter in the world would help him.

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:01:23pm

re: #116 KGxvi

After 17 years of near constant war, I’m guessing the public would not respond the way the GOP thinks it would.

Especially if there’s a retaliatory strike.

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:01:37pm

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

Swansea beat Arsenal, so there’s that if you’re a Swansea fan.

Not so good for us Gooners though ;)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:01:39pm

re: #159 MsJ

Imagine a “YOU LIE!” That’s what I want to see. He’ll lose his shit. Completely. No teleprompter in the world would help him.

“Punch him in the face…I’ll pay the bills!”

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:01:55pm

re: #148 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Everyone dies. How long it takes to get there is partially under our control.

..as is what we do with our time along the way

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:02:16pm

re: #161 William Lewis

Not so good for us Gooners though ;)

Yeah, we’re followers in this household. Poor Petr Cech.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:02:31pm

re: #159 MsJ

Imagine a “YOU LIE!” That’s what I want to see. He’ll lose his shit. Completely. No teleprompter in the world would help him.

Out to be enough pissed off Dems to do it as a 4-part rondo.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:03:00pm

re: #162 Barefoot Grin

“Punch him in the face…I’ll pay the bills!”

“GET HIM OUT OF HERE!!! THIS IS MY SPEECH!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:03:39pm

re: #145 prairiefire

That’s really, really, great.

I shamelessly stole it from Wonkette.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:04:01pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

“GET HIM OUT OF HERE!!! THIS IS MY SPEECH!!!”

Nope. He sold it to his listed donors.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:04:57pm

re: #163 dangerman

..as is what we do with our time along the way

Unless you’re a conservative, then God and those meddlesome religious nutjobs are all up in your business.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:05:28pm

re: #122 allegro

I think the general consensus is we’re doomed.

Nah, not doomed, just royally fucked for the next few years. The damage can and will be fixed. It will take time, but (royal) we will survive this.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:06:06pm

I’ll be watching Grace and Frankie while the yam bloviates and the pundits cream their jeans, thank you very much.

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:06:41pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, we’re followers in this household. Poor Petr Cech.

ouch.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:07:59pm

Short summary.

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:11:58pm

re: #141 A Mom Anon

The only people standing for the anthem at home will be assholes filming it for social media to prove how “patriotic” they are.

And those taking a wiz off of their back porch.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:12:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:13:54pm

Can’t watch. I get triggered by his stupid hand gestures and puckerhole.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:13:59pm
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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:15:39pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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I’m watching the Knicks game. If I’m going to get disappointed and angry, it might as well be over something I actually like.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:16:23pm

Keep an eye out for the closing credits…

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:17:45pm

Pre-speech highlights from the White House:

What’s the old line about using many words to say nothing? I’m actually kind of interested what a state of the union sounds like with no new policies. Not necessarily enough to watch or listen but still…

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:18:25pm

re: #179 De Kolta Chair

Executive Producer: V. Putin.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:19:04pm

In other news…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:19:18pm

re: #181 KGxvi

Executive Producer: V. Putin.

Guest appearance by Stormy Daniels.

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MsJ  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:20:00pm

re: #180 KGxvi

Pre-speech highlights from the White House:

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What’s the old line about using many words to say nothing? I’m actually kind of interested what a state of the union sounds like with no new policies. Not necessarily enough to watch or listen but still…

“Full excerpts”? Is that like giant shrimp or honest Republicans?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:20:34pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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Can’t watch that smug a-hole. I’ll get the highlights for days for sure.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:20:55pm

Thread, eight tweets.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:23:05pm

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

Thread, eight tweets.

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Ya know, if the FBI is lame enough to let a chump like Trump take them down then maybe they freaking deserve it.

Impress me guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:24:40pm

re: #141 A Mom Anon

The only people standing for the anthem at home will be assholes filming it for social media to prove how “patriotic” they are.

and will have a beer in hand…

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:25:25pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Did the black kid beat him?

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Woods Witch  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:26:01pm

Trump’s behavior reminds me very much of what I have read about the English kings of old…assumes he has unlimited power (they did, Trump just thinks he does), demands of unfettered loyalty, and then there’s Mueller…”Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest!”

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:27:34pm

re: #189 Ace Rothstein

According to the NY Daily News twitter feed, the Klan kid beat him 6-1, 6-1.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:27:38pm

re: #182 De Kolta Chair

In other news…

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Just push the button, Frank.

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The Major  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:27:40pm

re: #187 bill d. (b.d.)

Ya know, if the FBI is lame enough to let a chump like Trump take them down then maybe they freaking deserve it.

Given that the FBI has been setting up traps for so-called terrorists who really aren’t, this might be a form of poetic justice. But right the fuck now? Hopefully the Secret Service might be able to drag this whole cabal down….

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:28:38pm

My. God.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:28:44pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:29:03pm

The price of eggs has more than doubled in the past few months. I’m sure the president will address the issue of rising food prices tonight. I’m also sure Kevin Spacey will make a huge comeback this year.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:29:30pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:30:42pm

I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but I alluded to it in my earlier post. The weather over the Superb Owl weekend here in Minneapolis is supposed to be bitterly cold; the lows are supposed to be at or below 0 degrees F (-17.7 degrees C) both Saturday and Sunday. If you’re in town, don’t be stupid. Also, have some pity on the poor fools who are going to be flooding out of the stadium into the bitterly cold night, some of them disappointed, many of them drunk, almost all of them likely to be unprepared for the potential danger.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:30:52pm

HuffPo must have the A-team of headline writers on today:

PANDER EXPRESS: Big Biz Puts on a Show For Trump

RNC Troubled By Wynn Sexual Allegations, Plans to Keep His Money Anyway

Paul Ryan Urges GOP Not to Use Memo Attacking Trump Probe to Attack Trump Probe

Teleprompter Trump To Give His Big Speech. Twitter Trump Likely To Step All Over It

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:31:07pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

So who invited the Internet troll?

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:31:14pm

re: #194 Scottish Dragon

My. God.

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An act of war is not a “warning.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:31:46pm
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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:31:51pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve made the mistake of reading some flat earth stuff on instagram (a profile showed up once in my “you might like” section and I couldn’t help myself). There is a full cubic tonne of crazy in flat earther circles, but they all seem driven my religious beliefs, and in particular a literal reading of the scriptures… those are the sorts of people who tend not to be of the left if they’re voters.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:31:59pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

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STFU, Ari.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:33:05pm

Heh

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:33:39pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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You’d think Capitol Police would have something to say about this.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:34:25pm

re: #201 Targetpractice

An act of war is not a “warning.”

Did you notice the bit abut evacuating Americans?

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:34:26pm

re: #205 De Kolta Chair

Judging by that cast, I’m pretty sure the phrase Fox was looking for was “White and Optimistic”

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:34:56pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:35:16pm

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

So who invited the Internet troll?

Dana Rohrabacher?

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KGxvi  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:35:33pm

re: #205 De Kolta Chair

There’s a joke in there, but I just can’t get past C+ Santa Monica fascist Stephen Miller being a real person with access to power.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:35:35pm

re: #205 De Kolta Chair

Heh

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So it’s going to be a speech long on empty platitudes, full of empty promises, with a lot of scaremongering, and a lot of hedging about how thoroughly they’re trying to fuck over federal law enforcement.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:36:37pm

re: #208 Citizen K

Judging by that cast, I’m pretty sure the phrase Fox was looking for was “White and Optimistic”

The Immigration Department announced today that the quota for White On Rice will be precipitously increased this year.

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BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:37:30pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

So it’s going to be a speech long on empty platitudes, full of empty promises, with a lot of scaremongering, and a lot of hedging about how thoroughly they’re trying to fuck over federal law enforcement.

And Nazis—don’t forget the Nazis.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:37:36pm

Now for a comedy break:

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prairiefire  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:40:20pm

re: #147 Decatur Deb

3 weeks to CPAC 2018.

Alternate Universe.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:41:12pm

“So, we meet again, Ms. Blofeld”

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prairiefire  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:41:37pm

re: #216 prairiefire

Alternate Universe.

But unfortunately, the one we live in.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:41:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:41:55pm

re: #216 prairiefire

Alternate Universe.

Better afterparty worship services..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:43:06pm

So, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down more than three hundred points. Trump’s going to open with that, right?

Price is right losing horn

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:44:39pm

Keep your eye on the prize; the prize being impeachment and conviction.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:45:32pm

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

So who invited the Internet troll?

The congressman from russia

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:46:19pm

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

The congressman from russia

Which one? There seems to be so many of them nowadays: The USA seems to have more oblasts than states.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:46:46pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:47:01pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

So, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed down more than three hundred points. Trump’s going to open with that, right?

And it’ll get buffo laffs from one side of the chamber.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:48:24pm

re: #217 De Kolta Chair

The hell is this happy horseshit.

Hillary is literally getting crucified for something 10 years ago that almost everyone in the GOP has failed to do in the same situation, and their contemporaries in NYT failed to do with fucking Glenn Thrush? Like…

…no, totally believable. Why should I expect any better from our fucking political climate.

228
bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:48:36pm

I’m still waiting on my Hydrogen powered car that George W Bush promised me during one of his SOTU addresses.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:49:59pm

re: #225 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Pedophile rapist Scott Baio?

That Scott Baio?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:52:04pm

re: #227 Citizen K

The hell is this happy horseshit.

Hillary is literally getting crucified for something 10 years ago that almost everyone in the GOP has failed to do in the same situation, and their contemporaries in NYT failed to do with fucking Glenn Thrush? Like…

…no, totally believable. Why should I expect any better from our fucking political climate.

It’s the New York Times. It’s what they do. At least my conservative regional paper is honest about their political leanings.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:53:02pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:54:29pm

Meh, I’ll take my chances with this guy. I’m sure he is some kind of demon but what they hay!

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:55:08pm

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

Yes, but the column was from the Post (and unlike what I expected, not from Ass-sange himself). I’ve come to expect the Times to be utter shit at this point. But I’m amazed how successful this deflection toward the ‘08 Hillary campaign thing has been, even beyond the pundit class’s usual anti-Hillary mania.

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Citizen K  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:56:19pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

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bratwurst  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:56:26pm

If you have a moment, can you click on and report the offending tweet? It probably doesn’t do any real good except making me feel like I am not the only person deeply disturbed by this. Thanks.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:56:38pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:57:16pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

If he drop a deuce at the podium, the press would enthuse about the firmness and rich odor of it, truly the product of a presidential man!

/

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Bubblehead II  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:57:49pm

A bad day to (pick your Airplane) reference to quit doing someting

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:58:44pm

re: #233 Citizen K

Yes, but the column was from the Post (and unlike what I expected, not from Ass-sange himself). I’ve come to expect the Times to be utter shit at this point. But I’m amazed how successful this deflection toward the ‘08 Hillary campaign thing has been, even beyond the pundit class’s usual anti-Hillary mania.

Missed that. What’s up with the Washington Post? Are they trying preserve precious “access” as well?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 4:59:38pm

My two cents (Mickey Bitsko is my Twitter handle. If anyone knows how I can change it to De Kolta Chair, I’d love to hear it).

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:01:38pm

“This is what the American people wanted when they voted for Trump, a president unafraid to take a big, steaming shit on live TV! This is the sort of man the Republican base voted for, a man totally secure in himself and willing to show America just how brave he is.”

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The Major  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:01:44pm

re: #205 De Kolta Chair

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:02:17pm

This is the one I’m going with:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:05:41pm

Proposed header for the SOTU thread:

“Let’s do it”
—G.Gilmore

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:09:41pm

I’m watching Pink Flamingos because I’d rather laugh at a singing asshole than cry from watching a talking one.

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The Major  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:10:26pm

re: #217 De Kolta Chair

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:12:08pm

I’m going to watch The Crown on Netflix.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:13:34pm

re: #240 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]

My two cents (Mickey Bitsko is my Twitter handle. If anyone knows how I can change it to De Kolta Chair, I’d love to hear it).

Click on on the “Edit Profile” button on your Twitter home page.

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Belafon  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:14:12pm

re: #246 The Major

[Embedded content]

Try to get people angry. There’s not much else she can do except make noise.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:15:08pm

Hmm. Star Wars 2 or a Victoria episode or Sense and Sensibility? So many choices.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:15:50pm

So how many Tinder matches will Melania get tonight?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:15:51pm

re: #248 Belafon

Thanks Belofon, I had a feeling it was that simple. Keep in mind you’re dealing with someone who knows Word inside and out but still prefers to use WordPerfect. ;-)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:16:20pm

re: #250 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Star Wars 2 or a Victoria episode or Sense and Sensibility? So many choices.

You could watch Nonsense and Senility with the rest of us.

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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:17:14pm

re: #253 Decatur Deb

You could watch Nonsense and Senility with the rest of us.

I’m watching Idiocracy. Oh wait….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:17:42pm

re: #245 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m watching Pink Flamingos because I’d rather laugh at a singing asshole than cry from watching a talking one.

I’m watching Van Helsing. It sucks, but not as bad as watching Anus-face McWeirdGestures.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:18:06pm

re: #253 Decatur Deb

I am afraid watching it would destroy my grey matter. I do not want to lose that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:18:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:18:24pm

I guarantee you Trump will go off script tonight.

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:19:17pm

re: #250 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Star Wars 2 or a Victoria episode or Sense and Sensibility? So many choices.

I’m thinking of rewatching either “Girls Und Panzer Der Movie” or “Cowboy Bebop: Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:19:18pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

That is why I will be watching something else.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:19:30pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

I guarantee you Trump will go off script tonight.

If not, he’ll shit onto Twitter first thing in the morning.

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Woods Witch  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:19:44pm

A little humor before the shit show about to come

Duetto buffo di due gatti

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:20:43pm

“Nothing to see here, folks, move along…” — Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, et alia

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:20:58pm

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to watch The Crown on Netflix.

I’m going to catch up on episodes of The Good Place

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:22:49pm

re: #263 Woods Witch

A little humor before the shit show about to come

Duetto buffo di due gatti

The Little Singers of the Cross of Wood could be considered my “first” concert (1956).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:25:18pm

re: #260 William Lewis

I’m thinking of rewatching either “Girls Und Panzer Der Movie” or “Cowboy Bebop: Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”

“Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS?”

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plansbandc  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:26:02pm

I’m going to watch more “One Day at a Time” and maybe a bit of the Avalanche game. I cannot listen to the orange bag o’shit. What’s left of my mental health needs to be preserved.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:26:47pm

Trump practicing his SOTU speech…

Apologies to Fritz Lang and Peter Lorre
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:27:36pm

re: #268 plansbandc

I’m going to watch more “One Day at a Time” and maybe a bit of the Avalanche game. I cannot listen to the orange bag o’shit. What’s left of my mental health needs to be preserved.

We’ll be eating dinner shortly. My wife bought a pork roast at the butcher shop yesterday, and it’s been all day roasting with a recipe that is so secret she cannot remember what she did.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:29:07pm

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹

We’ll be eating dinner shortly. My wife bought a pork roast at the butcher shop yesterday, and it’s been all day roasting with a recipe that is so secret she cannot remember what she did.

Classification: Destroy Before Reading (DBR)

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teleskiguy  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

In preparation for Fuckface Von Clownstick’s self-aggrandizing fuckin’ travesty of a speech in front of both houses of Congress I’m listening to what I like to call Xanax in music form.

#7

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Woods Witch  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:30:25pm

re: #266 Decatur Deb

They have aged well.

(I’ll show myself out)

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:30:34pm

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹

We’ll be eating dinner shortly. My wife bought a pork roast at the butcher shop yesterday, and it’s been all day roasting with a recipe that is so secret she cannot remember what she did.

damn, sounds great.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:31:31pm

re: #273 Woods Witch

They have aged well.

(I’ll show myself out)

Skeksis food.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:32:18pm

I’m gonna post the live video. You don’t have to watch but I will because I’m hoping to get a screenshot of the Rage Furby sitting in the gallery, so I can embarrass the fuck out of whoever invited him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:32:20pm

So Melania went in a separate car to the SOTU…the plot thickens…

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austin_blue  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:34:10pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

That’s why The Furby is there.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:34:12pm

re: #250 PhillyPretzel

Star Wars.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:10pm
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lawhawk  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:26pm

re: #277 Joe Bacon 🌹

In a break with tradition.

Yeah, that’s totally surprising.

No, who am I kidding. That’s entirely predictable.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:31pm

What I’d like to see tonight: Some measure of resistance from Congressional Dems, such as getting up to leave during the speech, standing up and turning their backs, or even shouting “You lie!”

What I expect: A whole bunch of stone-faced old folks sitting in their seats, continuing to act under the delusion that if they refuse to clap or show any support for the man at the podium, they’ll look like the “adults” in the room. When the reality is that most people won’t be watching the speech, but will instead see the highlight reel tomorrow morning on their way out the door to work, catching snippets of the speech that media will hail as “presidential” while the most coverage given to Dems will be snide remarks or “analysis” about how they need to “meet Trump halfway” on his empty promises if they want to win reelection.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:32pm

re: #279 Scottish Dragon

I am watching Phantom Menace currently.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:35pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:35:43pm

Thanks for the retweet, or paraphrase, or whatever the kids are calling it these days, of the Peter Lorre comment, Charles. I just might be famous yet!

286
Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:36:00pm

re: #260 William Lewis

I’m thinking of rewatching either “Girls Und Panzer Der Movie” or “Cowboy Bebop: Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”

Cowboy BeBop is hard to beat.

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plansbandc  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:36:23pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

You are our brave leader. Bless you. I’m so sorry you have to watch that shit.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:37:03pm

re: #277 Joe Bacon 🌹

So Melania went in a separate car to the SOTU…the plot thickens…

She doesn’t even have the same bedroom as Trump. That is a first in my lifetime that the first couple didn’t share a bedroom.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:37:11pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

I am watching Phantom Menace currently.

What, did you lose a bet?

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:37:12pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Proposed header for the SOTU thread:

“Let’s do it”
—G.Gilmore

Have the rifles been cleaned?

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:37:27pm
292
BeachDem  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:38:03pm

re: #254 lawhawk

I’m watching Idiocracy. Oh wait….

I’m going with Grace and Frankie, ‘cause I want to see some 70-somethings who make sense.

293
Woods Witch  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:38:35pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

One reason I enjoy LGF….the obscure, nerdy references

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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:38:47pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

“Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS?”

Not … quite… my taste in that genre ;)

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dangerman  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:39:08pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

I don’t know why
This story makes me happy

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:39:14pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

No. I was watching it on the way home from work so I will finish watching it at home. Then something else during the SOTU.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:39:27pm

re: #260 William Lewis

I’m thinking of rewatching either “Girls Und Panzer Der Movie” or “Cowboy Bebop: Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”

I’d probably watch GUP, mostly because after the last few days, I’d need something lighthearted.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:39:31pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

I’m gonna post the live video. You don’t have to watch but I will because I’m hoping to get a screenshot of the Rage Furby sitting in the gallery, so I can embarrass the fuck out of whoever invited him.

Criswell Bacon predicts that the Guilty Party is Dana Roherbacher

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austin_blue  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:40:29pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

I am watching Phantom Menace currently.

Jar Jar Binks or Donald J. Trump…hmm…

Nah, I’ll just shoot myself in the head.

300
De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:40:37pm
301
Decatur Deb  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:40:56pm

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts that the Guilty Party is Dana Roherbacher

Good luck embarrassing Roherbacher.

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teleskiguy  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:41:38pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

UpChuck is in D.C. for the big speech?!? Oh brother.

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makeitstop  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:41:47pm
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William Lewis  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:42:38pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

I’d probably watch GUP, mostly because after the last few days, I’d need something lighthearted.

yeah, true that. Plus it’s funny watchin a Pershing, a PzIVF2 & a Tiger repeatedly violate the laws of physics :D

But I’ll probably go for Cowboy BeBop for the fact that it’s a pure good guy win in the end.

305
bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:43:25pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

UpChuck is in D.C. for the big speech?!? Oh brother.

He’ll be easy to spot, he brought his own torch.

306
Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:43:29pm

Now I wish I hadn’t taken the time yesterday to catch up on ST: Discovery. Some bad Star Trek writing would be preferable tonight.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:43:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:44:36pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

UpChuck is in D.C. for the big speech?!? Oh brother.

Yes, he announced it on white supremacist hellhole Gab[dot]ai.

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The Major  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:44:52pm

re: #286 Scottish Dragon

Cowboy BeBop is hard to beat.

Adult Swim seems to be dumpster-diving as of late - Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Ghost In The Shell 2nd Gig?…..

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ObserverArt  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:45:03pm

re: #303 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Newt just get in from the local bar?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:46:10pm

re: #310 ObserverArt

Newt just get in from the local bar?

He’s only there while other folks are buying.

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Targetpractice  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:46:48pm

re: #309 The Major

Adult Swim seems to be dumpster-diving as of late - Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Ghost In The Shell 2nd Gig?…..

They gotta draw people back now that Rick & Morty is gone for another long hiatus.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:48:02pm

If the owner of the National Inquirer wasn’t a fellow bacchanalian of Trump’s, visits to the Rite Aid cash register would be a lot more fun, and a lot more truthful.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:48:20pm

I’ll be binge-watching The Good Place (not for the first time).

It looks like Charles is the only one who will be watching it — thanks, Charles, for taking the hit for us all!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:48:31pm

re: #309 The Major

Adult Swim seems to be dumpster top-shelf-diving as of late - Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Ghost In The Shell 2nd Gig?…..

;)

Wish they’d run Witch Hunter Robin.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:49:31pm
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bratwurst  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:49:57pm
318
Barefoot Grin  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:50:07pm

re: #295 dangerman

I don’t know why
This story makes me happy

It’s incr-edible!

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EPR-radar  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:53:18pm

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 30, 2018 • 5:55:37pm

re: #207 Scottish Dragon

Did you notice the bit abut evacuating Americans?

probably only “certain Americans”…

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 30, 2018 • 6:00:39pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

A disservice to replicants.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 30, 2018 • 6:06:20pm

re: #317 bratwurst

Sorry Bill, no matter how many 4 Non Blondes cd’s you have, they’re still not calling you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 30, 2018 • 6:19:42pm

Poland and Israel are in a spat over Poland’s 2018 amendment to its Holocaust law.

The amendment passed the Sejm a couple days ago and has moved on to the Polish Senate.

The amendment would criminalise (except for artistic, historic, or scientific work) using terms similar to “Polish death camps” to refer to the German Nazi regime’s death camps built in Poland or other Nazi crimes committed on Polish soil while Poland was under occupation.

Israel and (some) American Jewish groups are condemning the bill, claiming that many Polish people were complicit in Nazi Germany’s crimes. Yad Vashem also condemns the amendment.

Poland for many years has argued that Nazi Germany was the real actor and pushes back any time it sees “Polish Death Camp” in a news outlet or government document.

Poland notes that while the phrase is geographically correct (they were situated in Poland), the phrase is a slander on Poland and gives Holocaust deniers ammunition (see Germany didn’t do it, Poland did).

As part of a strategy of education, Radio Poland has set up an information Website on German death camps. They have an article about it:
thenews.pl (in English)

Complicating matters, amongst the Righteous Amongst the Nations listed at Yad Vashem, Poles outnumber people from any other country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:36:19am

re: #15 A Mom Anon

I’m waiting on their new Nazi Bible to be published where Jesus sports a swastika tattoo and and wears khakis and a white polo shirt.

There was a movement in Germany, mostly in the Lutheran Church, to promote a new, Arayanized version of Christianity more in keeping with Nazi ideology.

Many of those motherfuckers remained in the church and one was even appointed pastor to a local village and served well into the 1970’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:53:57am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

I ask that all South Carolinians show the world our state’s resolute commitment to supporting our troops by standing for the national anthem wherever you watch the Super Bowl with your loved ones this Sunday.

The Super Bowl is a private event put on by a private corporation. But the SC governor has conflated it with a public ceremony with religious overtones.


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Shock Tactics: Why ‘Higher Risk’ Human Targets Get Stunned With Tasers NEW YORK – The maker of the Taser says the electroshock weapon is the safest tool on a police officer’s belt – with a few caveats. In pages of warnings, Axon Enterprise Inc advises police to beware that some ...
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