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Patricia Kayden  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:20:40pm

Nothing Trump reads from a teleprompter during an overly long speech changes anything. He’s still an unqualified, bigoted bully. He’s not going to change.

Go Mueller!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:26:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:27:25pm

“Teleprompter Trump” gave an uninspiring speech with a dead fish tone and we’re supposed to be impressed because it was “positive” and “unifying.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:27:53pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:31:57pm

Nunes is out of control.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:32:10pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:33:13pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

“Teleprompter Trump” gave an uninspiring speech with a dead fish tone and we’re supposed to be impressed because it was “positive” and “unifying.”

And because he didn’t yell “Pocahontas” at Senator Warren in the middle of the speech. Huge accomplishment.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:35:21pm

Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…

You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:35:23pm

re: #5 makeitstop

The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:36:10pm

re: #6 Kragar

Vets are representing well in the comments!

I wish Tiny Lipspittle would go away.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:36:50pm

re: #9 Patricia Kayden

That’s unfair.

It’ll totally be taken seriously by much of the political press too, who will further enable that base to go even crazier. Gotta be extra fair to Trump after all.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:38:34pm

re: #9 Patricia Kayden

The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.

They are all committing treason. They are openly pursuing Putin’s goal of destroying the FBI and Intelligence agencies!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:39:16pm

Uh oh!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:40:58pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:47:56pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:48:32pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:50:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:51:34pm

And folks, remember that the day started with Republican Congressmen getting involved in a train wreck. I got a feeling The Flying Spaghetti Monster was sending them a message

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:51:52pm

re: #8 Citizen K

My veteran son-in-law is just now back in town from his annual trip to the Kerrville VA hospital where every year he has to go and prove once again that he’s 100% disabled, because Republicans don’t want any veterans trying to cheat them.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:52:41pm

Because they’re Republicans. They would cheat.

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gocart mozart  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:53:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:55:27pm

I hate to complain, but it’s annoying as hell to see media writing about Chuck C. Johnson and his Holocaust denial without crediting LGF for EXPOSING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. None of these journalists would know about the Rage Furby’s Holocaust denial if I hadn’t publicized it.

But I am glad to see this becoming a persistent meme about this disgusting piece of garbage.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:55:48pm

re: #5 makeitstop

Nunes is out of control.

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I suspect Nunes’ “defense” will be to argue that the “facts” in both memos are identical, so the memos are functionally identical but only the one memo will be released so that no comparison can be made.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:55:54pm

Charlie Pierce has an interesting take on the SOTU; that DT was so lost that all he could do was read, and that he botched the emphasis points marked in the text for him.

My evidence for this is the fact that, before the address began, we were handed a copy of the prepared text so that we could follow along and, in the not inconsiderable possibility that the president* would pause to bite the head off a live chicken, mark where in the text he chose to do so. Generally, these texts are printed on official stationery and they are presented essentially as a document in conventional prose. Instead, for reasons known only to god, what we were handed were copies of the speech as the president* would read it from the podium. Words and phrases he was supposed to emphasize were written in all caps, not unlike what you’d see in the angry part of a Tweet. For example:

“As I promised the American People from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the BIGGEST TAX CUTS AND REFORMS IN AMERICAN HISTORY.”

This curious happenstance enabled us to watch in real time as the president* utterly botched the stagecraft of his address. He blew through most of the capitalized points of emphasis, only occasionally leaning into them the way he was supposed to. So, even on its most basic level, the speech was completely unbalanced in what it chose to emphasize. In its substance, of course, this equilibrium was completely out of whack.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:56:36pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

I suspect Nunes’ “defense” will be to argue that the “facts” in both memos are identical, so the memos are functionally identical but only the one memo will be released so that no comparison can be made.

Except Rep. Schiff says the changes are “substantive.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:58:04pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:58:19pm

re: #25 retired cynic

Except Rep. Schiff says the changes are “substantive.”

“They’ve no proof (because I won’t release both memos), so this is nothing but a stalling tactic to keep the truth from coming out!”

Seriously, what’s Schiff going to do, go to Ryan demanding Nunes be brought up on ethics charges if not removed from the committee?

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:59:50pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

This link would serve anyone who writes about UpChuck well, but LGF is just some darned blog, so…

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:02:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:02:44pm

What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:03:28pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Mueller is making a list, and checking it twice.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:04:50pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:05:28pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?

They’ll finally get rid of him about three months after he flees to Russia.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:06:06pm
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Jason Munro  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:07:40pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

That’s a bummer. It even made Right Wing Watch in the daily round-up.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:08:35pm

Some recent happenings inspired me to do this animated P’shop poster. It’s therapy. I happen to think someone is getting away with a lot of devious crap without being held responsible for his very large part in obstruction of justice.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:09:24pm

Someone has been just as silent as ASSange. Wonder why?

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:12:25pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

What an awful and weird twist of fate that you share a first and last name with that scumbag. It’s thankless work you do, but necessary.

What needs to be investigated by journalists is UpChuck’s supposed connections to the White House. I have a theory, UpChuck is in regular contact with that racist slug Stephen Miller, birds of a feather and all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:13:49pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

Upchuck and Miller are in the same age range too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:14:52pm
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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:15:33pm

Were there any tweets from Babyfingers today? If so, I must have missed them.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:17:08pm

re: #41 makeitstop

Were there any tweets from Babyfingers today? If so, I must have missed them.

He last tweeted at exactly 7 p.m. MST yesterday.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:17:43pm

Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:17:59pm

We need a running list of nicknames for all these creeps we can refer to so everyone knows who the hell is being talked about. lol

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:18:10pm

Ashley Parker is so hot.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:18:20pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

He last tweeted at exactly 7 p.m. MST yesterday.

He’s watching the finger puppet presentation of the Nunes’ memo so he can understand what he’s releasing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:18:39pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:18:46pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.

He’s self medicating with a half dozen Big Macs, Super Sized Fries, Apple Pies and a dozen Diet Cokes.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:20:13pm

re: #45 Ace Rothstein

In some of the Google images she looks like the Caucasian version of Ana Navarro.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:20:40pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

Considering last night’s performance, they’ve probably got him doped to the gills as we speak.

Or, since he was a “good prezident” last night, he spent the whole day rolling in Fox accolades on his bed and eating quarter-pounder after quarter-pounder in between buckets of KFC extra-crispy chicken…and a couple quarts of mash’d ‘taters!

It was a good day.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:21:37pm

Just occurred to me: Which version of the Nunes’ “memo” has the DOJ and FBI seen? The one that the HPSCI voted on or the one that Devin provided to the WH?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:22:02pm

re: #34 jaunte

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Continuing obstruction.

That’s why I’m wondering when Mueller calls it over?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:22:36pm

I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:25:20pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…

Fuckface Von Clownstick has no friends.

Oh, and Happy Birthday Joe! And many more!

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:25:36pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:26:07pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m looking at all the birthday wishes friends posted on Facebook and am now realizing that I got more friends than the blob sitting on the Golden Throne in the White House…

Happy Birthday!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:27:11pm

That there is some weapons grade projection.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:27:52pm

Prediction: Trump fires Rosenstein by Feb. 16, thinking (correctly) that Graham, et al are bluffing by saying that if he fired Rosenstein his presidency would be over. He knows they’ll never leave him, and he’s right.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:29:28pm

re: #58 Ace Rothstein

Prediction: Trump fires Rosenstein by Feb. 16, thinking (correctly) that Graham, et al, are bluffing by saying that if he fired Rosenstein his presidency would be over. He knows they’ll never leave him, and he’s right.

I hope not!! If so, this country is finished

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:30:03pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:30:43pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

Continuing obstruction.

That’s why I’m wondering when Mueller calls it over?

I think when he has a rock solid case against the important players he will release findings strong enough to make it clear what happened. That is about all he can do. So, he will want it to be as powerful and damning as can be.

I think Mueller is very aware his findings need to be bullet proof because the Republicans are going to do all they can to say it doesn’t amount to anything.

Mueller in a way has to build a case strong enough it begins to piss-off GOP congress folk on the edge of supporting Trump and to even cause some questions with some wingnuts. It’s going to be tough.

I think he can ask to continue too, by saying his findings, while deeply troubling and prove corruption, have more avenues to be discovered…it is that bad.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:34:47pm

re: #59 Hecuba’s daughter

I take no pleasure in my prediction.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:37:07pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:38:27pm

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

LOL

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:38:31pm
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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:39:24pm

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

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More bots, I see. There’s a @HAL9000 with no underscores all throughout Schiff’s tweet at #5.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:40:28pm

re: #62 Ace Rothstein

I take no pleasure in my prediction.

I hope it doesn’t and I hope you are wrong. But, should it happen, think of all the commercials, videos and actual words of all those Republicans that said his firing Rosenstein would lead to impeachment and then did nothing.

And with that American Democratic “Bots” can spread that all far and wide just like the Russians did and do.

We have never seen a party weave their own rope to hang themselves like the Republican seem content doing. They must think their necks won’t be in it, but weave away anyway. This is historic.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:40:31pm

This looks like one of the hardest puzzles.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:49:33pm

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:50:39pm

Until this country has broken up, and I have to move to either the east or west coast to become Canadian, we are not finished.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 8:53:58pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:01:36pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:04:23pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

What the fuck will it take to get Nunes booted off that Committee?

The Democrats winning control of the House in November.

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sagehen  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:09:35pm

re: #72 jaunte

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Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?

But we didn’t find out until after the election?

He’s often too optimistic about timelines.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:11:56pm

re: #8 Citizen K

Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…

You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.

Yup. All those concerned conservatives when I was homeless just tore me up with their empathy. /s

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:13:27pm

re: #74 sagehen

Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?

But we didn’t find out until after the election?

He’s often too optimistic about timelines.

What if he thought it would be released earlier and then it wasn’t?

As dodgy as all of this stuff has been, it can’t be easy to count on the players that would leak the info. There are greasy people involved, everything becomes slippery.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:13:31pm

re: #59 Hecuba’s daughter

I hope not!! If so, this country is finished

No, its not. Then we take to the streets and shut this country down if we have to.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:14:19pm

I miss the snow.

Instagram

Rare photo of the @teleskiguy in action on a trail named Lost Boy.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:14:45pm
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Renaissance_Man  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:16:08pm

re: #74 sagehen

Remember how for 3 months before the election Rick Wilson kept our hopes up with hints about what we eventually found out was The Dossier?

But we didn’t find out until after the election?

He’s often too optimistic about timelines.

Also, I think he himself is unrealistic about what is big news in today’s media climate, which is odd for a media guy. I recall when he was predicting the ‘big news’ of the Access Hollywood tape. Under normal circumstances, that’s true, that’s big news. And any other presidential candidate would be done. But Rick doesn’t realise that the media as a whole, and Republicans, don’t care about Trump scandals, and that they’ll be swept away as soon as possible.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:17:49pm

re: #80 Renaissance_Man

We ALL thought he was done. We had no idea of the sickness that lies within those people for whom it was nothing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:20:07pm

Joan Walsh is catching shit (somewhat deservedly) for being perceived as being sympathetic to Hope Hicks. My own feeling it feels off that we are so quick to grant the presumption that a person is deserving of a shot at redemption when they’re young and white while so many minorities never, ever get a second chance. This especially grates in Hicks’ case because of the harm she’s helped the Trump administration inflict on vulnerable populations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:21:40pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

If Ms. Lahren had walked into my station when I was a recruiter, I would have refused her. (Recruiters are not required to sign up everyone who comes in, and people with the attitude “I wanna go over there and kill X” are people you don’t want.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:24:42pm

A neo-nazi terrorist organization here in the US is responsible for the murder of five people last year. Guarantee you Trump will never tweet about them.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:27:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:32:10pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

If Ms. Lahren had walked into my station when I was a recruiter, I would have refused her. (Recruiters are not required to sign up everyone who comes in, and people with the attitude “I wanna go over there and kill X” are people you don’t want.”

You wouldn’t have to worry about that. She may like threatening others but do you really think she would sacrifice a comfortable life to live in a military barracks, have little freedom over her personal activity and put her life in possible jeopardy?

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allegro  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:33:16pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

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You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.

Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:34:55pm

This is my very first Instagram post. I rode a bicycle on that trail. From over five years ago.

Instagram

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:40:36pm

re: #87 allegro

You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.

Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.

I have no sympathy at all for Hope. If she can save herself from prison by turning on Trump then great, but she’ll still be trash as far as I’m concerned. I’m just being gentle with Joan because I think she honestly is navigating through the cognitive biases that cause her to see Hicks as worth redeeming.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:02:56pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick has no friends.

Oh, and Happy Birthday Joe! And many more!

Happy annual demarcation of an arbitrary point on the Earth’s orbital path, Mr. Bacon! Many more revolutions!

Happy Birthday!
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:03:59pm
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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:07:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:10:39pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

You wouldn’t have to worry about that. She may like threatening others but do you really think she would sacrifice a comfortable life to live in a military barracks, have little freedom over her personal activity and put her life in possible jeopardy?

During the run-up to the Persian Gulf War, I did throw out (gently, by sending them to the Army Recruiter, who kept telling me to stop that) people who wanted to sign up and go over there to kill [slur for Arabs].

The racial slurs were usually the giveaway that you didn’t want that person.

In recruiting school, instructors pointed out recruiters are the gatekeepers to entry in the military, and you don’t want to sign up someone who you don’t want to serve with.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:16:52pm
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danarchy  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:20:30pm

I just tried ordering this knife from amazon. Got all the way to check out and they can’t ship to my address. I can only assume it is because it is an assisted opener and I live in MA.

Of course this knife is entirely legal to carry in MA, even if it was a full blown switchblade, the blade is only 1.4”. This must be some sort of new Amazon thing since I have ordered all sorts of pocket knives from them in the past. First they get rid of the overnight option on most of the prime stuff, then they start missing shipping deadlines, and now they wont ship to me at all. Starting to wonder if prime is still worth it(ok, not really it is still worth it for Christmas alone).

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:36:11pm

re: #95 danarchy

Strange. I can buy this knife online in California. Flick the quillon with your finger and it opens as fast and easy as any switchblade.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:36:53pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.

When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:40:30pm

re: #97 ckkatz

I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.

When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.

In other words, conservatism as usual.

See also the Saturday Night Massacre under Nixon.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:40:39pm

re: #95 danarchy

I just tried ordering this knife from amazon. Got all the way to check out and they can’t ship to my address. I can only assume it is because it is an assisted opener and I live in MA.

Of course this knife is entirely legal to carry in MA, even if it was a full blown switchblade, the blade is only 1.4”. This must be some sort of new Amazon thing since I have ordered all sorts of pocket knives from them in the past. First they get rid of the overnight option on most of the prime stuff, then they start missing shipping deadlines, and now they wont ship to me at all. Starting to wonder if prime is still worth it(ok, not really it is still worth it for Christmas alone).

Flippers aren’t legally any different from other locking folders so it’s probably a local city ordinance. Some websites won’t ship bows here because of a Simi Valley ordinance that classifies bows and arrows as “firearms.”

5-22.01 Firearm defined.
For the purposes of this chapter, “firearm” shall mean and include rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver, bow and arrow, or any air, gas, or spring weapon, or any other device from which any shot, bullet, or projectile is discharged by force of gunpowder, pressure, or other explosive, including any projectile which carries or contains its own fuel and is propelled by reaction.
(§ 5211-1, S.V.M.C., as amended by § 1, Ord. 455, eff. December 10, 1980)

Also, that bottle opener hook on the flipper nub looks like it might snag on clothing.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:43:55pm

re: #96 Single-handed sailor

Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.

In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.

It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:44:14pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

At Jerome Corsi:

Number of Amtrak trains hijacked by liberals: 0
Number of Amtrak trains hijacked by conservative white supremacists: 1

In this area we’ve had three train wrecks over the last year: two coal trains hit corn trucks, one coal train derailed.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:47:46pm

re: #100 ckkatz

Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.

In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.

It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.

Tanto blade, edged on front, good for stabbing cars.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:51:35pm

re: #100 ckkatz

Interesting knife point. Looks like no sharpened edge around it.

In the Army, when I was in the field I used to carry a sheath knife with a similar kind of point. Mostly so I could open cans and pry open things.

It was no where near as nice or as cool as your folder. It was just an inexpensive old surplus thing in case I lost it.

I kind of want to get a Medford Praetorian Ti because it’s just such a beautifully butt ugly, quarter inch thick, heavy as fuck folding pry bar that happens to have an edge. Unfortunately I would also need to be high on drugs while having like twelve hundred dollars burning a hole in my pocket so it’s probably never going to happen.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 10:56:07pm

re: #102 Single-handed sailor

I must admit that I have not had much call for stabbing cars in my life. And I am fine with that. :)

But I can see your point. (I’ll show myself out now…)

The different types of blade designs and the problems they are designed to solve are very interesting. Admittedly, I am not very familiar with the Japanese and other Asian blade designs nor their intended uses.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:02:03pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Beautiful knife!

I agree with you. My preferred approach also has been to go for sturdy/tough in a knife. My experience has been knives tend to break when they are most needed and when it is not possible to replace them, like bfe.

I also agree that spending $1200 for a knife only to lose it in the leaf litter someplace I will probably never return to, is probably a bad idea.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:16:00pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

What the fuck is this?!?

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:16:42pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

That’s the nicest knife I’ve ever seen.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:24:15pm

re: #105 ckkatz

Beautiful knife!

I agree with you. My preferred approach also has been to go for sturdy/tough in a knife. My experience has been knives tend to break when they are most needed and when it is not possible to replace them, like bfe.

I also agree that spending $1200 for a knife only to lose it in the leaf litter someplace I will probably never return to, is probably a bad idea.

In reality I tend to go for Spyderco knives. My first was the original Viele that I got back around 1999. I also have a Phoenix, the Dodo reissue that came with carbon scales, a Manix 2 XL and a Rock Salt that I use as a dive knife. I bought my Dad a Sage 4 just before they were discontinued and I’d like to pick up a Native 5 in titanium but have other priorities for the moment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:28:36pm

I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife. I like knives, but I have a very utilitarian view of them. They’re for opening packages and coring apples for lunch.

I used to have a Gerber EZ Out, but the black polymer handle and drop point scared people. So I got an all-stainless Buck folder for $20 on Ebay. And it holds an edge better than the Gerber.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:33:03pm

Well, I’m back after my Internet service decided to take a powder for a few minutes.

I was just getting ready to call the landline phone company of doom when LGF suddenly updated and my wife’s Hulu video restarted.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:33:43pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife.

It’s utterly insane. It’s also nowhere near the absolute high end in terms of price. This is just the most recently added page at Arizona Custom Knives.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:37:50pm

While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:39:41pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

In reality I tend to go for Spyderco knives. My first was the original Viele that I got back around 1999. I also have a Phoenix, the Dodo reissue that came with carbon scales, a Manix 2 XL and a Rock Salt that I use as a dive knife. I bought my Dad a Sage 4 just before they were discontinued and I’d like to pick up a Native 5 in titanium but have other priorities for the moment.

Just looking at the Rock Salt on the SpyderCo site. It looks like a very nice knife, with nice features, and not a bad price. Not familiar with the specific alloy, H-1 used, but rustproof sounds good. I will admit that the blade design seems more of a chopping knife.

Some of the others seem to have a hole in the blade. I have always wondered what that was for. My first thought was that it might weaken the blade.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:45:35pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t get my mind around a $1200 pocket knife. I like knives, but I have a very utilitarian view of them. They’re for opening packages and coring apples for lunch.

I used to have a Gerber EZ Out, but the black polymer handle and drop point scared people. So I got an all-stainless Buck folder for $20 on Ebay. And it holds an edge better than the Gerber.

Heh, I probably still have my buck folder from the early 1980’s. It provided a lot of service. Yes, Gerber was the big thing back in those days at the PX. I still have my Gerber boot knife. But you are right, the Gerber edges always seemed extremely sharp, but very thin and very fragile.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:47:26pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Just looking at the Rock Salt on the SpyderCo site. It looks like a very nice knife, with nice features, and not a bad price. Not familiar with the specific alloy, H-1 used, but rustproof sounds good. I will admit that the blade design seems more of a chopping knife.

Some of the others seem to have a hole in the blade. I have always wondered what that was for. My first thought was that it might weaken the blade.

Honestly the edge holding is pure garbage and it’d probably be more useful as an abalone iron. That’s the tradeoff for truly being rustproof. If you want the exact same knife in a decent steel try to find the discontinued Schemp Rock, which was made in VG-10.

The hole is useful for opening the folders and I prefer it to a thumb post or flipper nub but makes no sense at all on the fixed blades. Spyderco just adds it to the fixies because they’ve made it their trademark. They’ve tried suing other folding blade makers for using it but it’s basically indefensible in court because you can’t trademark truly functional elements. Still that doesn’t keep them from talking about their “trademarked round hole.”

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:49:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:51:56pm

re: #116 Kragar

At this rate, instead of Radio Free Europe, we’re going to need a Radio Free America.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:54:15pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

You are an interesting person who should be living up Woody Creek outside of Aspen, CO.

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:55:37pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.

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Looks and sounds like a beautiful knife.

Sounds like it is made via a form of the Damascus process? Is it fully stainless/rustproof or does the high carbon have issues when wet? I suspect that the edge would hold up perfectly sharp for precision cutting?

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ckkatz  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:59:07pm

re: #116 Kragar

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Yup, these are the guys who have and are orchestrating the attack on our elections and our sovreignty. To essentially sneak them into the country unannounced for secret meetings.

And then the Russians taunt us.

The November elections are so incredibly critical.

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2018 • 12:00:31am

Well, off to bed.

Be well lizardim!

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 12:03:32am

I’m going to mosey off to bed. G’night y’all.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 12:04:01am

re: #119 ckkatz

Looks and sounds like a beautiful knife.

Sounds like it is made via a form of the Damascus process? Is it fully stainless/rustproof or does the high carbon have issues when wet? I suspect that the edge would hold up perfectly sharp for precision cutting?

I imagine the edge will rust quite badly if left wet. I think the stainless layers are just cheaper than the Aogami Super Blue to use and probably softer so the overall knife doesn’t end up too brittle. Also apparently the new Takedas aren’t as good as the old ones, which had a much thinner bevel.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 1, 2018 • 12:19:19am

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

OK, this is impressive

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 1, 2018 • 12:33:11am
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 1:03:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 1:17:00am

re: #8 Citizen K

Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants?…

A similar argument was used in Germany about how there is not enough money for their own poor people because of the cost of caring for the flood of Syrian & African refugees.

To which a leader of the Left party commented “Even without the refugees, there would not be enough money for poor people!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 1:18:31am

re: #9 Patricia Kayden

The GOP is out of control. I wonder if they’re so dumb that they believe this memo will have any impact upon its public release. We all know that it’s straight up propaganda so it will only be taken seriously by Trump’s base.

The point of the Mueller investigation is to present clear and incontrovertible evidence of wrongdoing, thereby forcing Congress to act or appear to be complicit.

This memo is an attempt to discredit the FBI’s findings in advance so they can ignore them.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 3:11:40am

re: #87 allegro

You are gentler than I’m feeling about her now. How many young adult lives is she trying to fuck up or destroy right now with her complicity? How many young women? How many kids? The list is endless.

Fuck her and the entire administration and all those who are enabling them without consequence.

Walsh’s argument is appalling. An honest to God WTF? Her parents are Democrats? Who cares?

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 3:26:49am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 3:34:26am

Happened in Spain, but there has got to be a Trump joke in this somewhere:

Facebook Post

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 3:39:40am

If trump is having an affair, I’m placing a bet on her. She looks like Melania, is closer to Ivanka’s age and will apparently do anything. Wife number four coming up.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 3:54:59am

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.

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That really was a Hattori Hanzo sword.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:06:44am

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.

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That’s better than what we have. We have a pretty old Masahiro. It looks just like the Shosui you show. But it’s still pretty awesome.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:12:47am

Heh.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:18:14am

Damn, Jon. Tell it like it is, brother!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:19:51am

I tweeted the below in response to an obnoxious post by David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. The vast majority of folks agree with me and think my wording is totally appropriate, but some folks object to my use of a vulgarity. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Vulgarity is now part of the culture of public discourse, so go out and grab ‘em by the pussy!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:22:21am

Pornhub offers Philly police an alternative to Crisco for Super Bowl prep

A porn site is offering the City of Brotherly Love a helping hand.

Bracing for massive celebrations Sunday with the Eagles in the Super Bowl, Philadelphia announced it will not use Crisco again to thwart rioting fans from climbing street lights, so Pornhub is offering two 55-gallon barrels of lubricant to use instead.

Philly police tried to prevent rioting before NFC title game by greasing the light poles around town.

Police Commissioner Richard Ross said this week they won’t use Crisco because it didn’t work the last time. Prior to the NFC title game, “Crisco Cops” slathered grease on telephone poles and street lights, but some fans still managed to scale the poles as crowds chanted, “F—k that grease!”

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:26:10am

Release the MEMO!!!!!

Media person: FBI has released statement expressing grave concerns about the Republican memo…

Fake news! Where is link to statement? Hah! Busted libtards!

Media person: Here is link

Shutup corrupt deep state FBI! You’re busted! How dare you criticize our holy memo which no one has seen but that we know is The TRoof!

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Archangelus  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:27:03am

Called it in the previous thread… so predictable - 8 million fewer viewers at 40.4 million is “the highest in history”…
Also, why bother lying about the number - claiming it’s 45.6 million - when it’s still lower than Obama’s 48 million?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:29:10am

re: #126 Kragar

Trump: Illegal immigrants and all immigrants actually are murderers and rapists. Build the Wall now!

Sanders: See what great hands have been stretched across the aisle! Work with us now or you hate America!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:30:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:33:21am

How about a redacted version of Trump’s tax returns?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:37:39am

re: #57 Ace-o-aces

That there is some weapons grade projection.

“Such great working across the aisle! Democrats better work with our great MAGA president!”

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:11am
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:06:44am

re: #145 MsJ

Bitcoin’s market value fell by more in January than Ford’s entire market capitalization

thus highlighting the important difference between a cryptocurrency and a national currency…such fluctuation are rare in “real” currencies that are based on some concrete notion of value

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:10:33am

Oh. I don’t even know…LOL

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:16:10am

re: #97 ckkatz

I suspect that Hope Hicks is going to find out that her boss views her as cannon fodder and quite expendable.

When her presence becomes inconvenient she is going to be tossed under the bus.

She has to get out from under the desk first.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:21:16am

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

While we’re talking about knives, the ones I really drool over are the kitchen knives made by Shosui Takeda. He uses a very high carbon steel called Aogami Super Blue sandwiched between layers of stainless. The cost runs like $300 to $500 each and they kind of look like hammered shit, but to me they’re beautiful. I don’t have any, yet.

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Check out the Yoshikane brand at epicedge.com too. I have a few for work. The SKD Japanese tool steel used for some of them (the hammer finished line) is amazing. :)

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:23:33am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:23:34am

I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant. IIRC so are Stephen Miller’s. Hicks isn’t a child. The only person in the Trump inner circle I feel bad for is Barron because he’s an actual kid and it appears his father is never there for him.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:27:42am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant. IIRC so are Stephen Miller’s. Hicks isn’t a child. The only person in the Trump inner circle I feel bad for is Barron because he’s an actual kid and it appears his father is never there for him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:28:31am

re: #153 makeitstop

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:32:21am

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:33:14am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

I’m a couple years older than Hicks. She has free will. She knew what she got into working for Trump. Her parents being Dems is irrelevant.

any association with Democrats is seen as a slur on her personality, she might as well have had a black slave great-great grandmother. Or they might insinuate her parents supported McCain instead of Bush in the 2000 GOP primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:38:12am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

any association with Democrats is seen as a slur on her personality, she might as well have had a black slave great-great grandmother. Or they might insinuate her parents supported McCain instead of Bush in the 2000 GOP primaries.

? Well I think you’re reading too much into what Joan Walsh, who is progressive minded said. She thinks Hope having a Democratic pedigree makes her somewhat sympathetic and her folks are probably worried about her. I might get that sentiment were she an intern but Hope is a key WH staffer.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:39:38am

Read this thread. Really.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:41:56am

I like this about Gowdy:

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:42:45am
A person familiar with the lawmaker’s plans said that Mr. Gowdy had turned down an offer by the Trump administration to nominate him for a judgeship on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit and that he planned to enter private practice in South Carolina instead.

nytimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:44:03am

re: #159 Belafon

I like this about Gowdy:

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It was easier for him when he got to be HRC’s tormentor. Now that he actually has to work.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:48:50am

re: #146 MsJ

It’s good, but there’s optimism I keep mentioning. We’ve got bad people in bad places, but our Democracy will only be destroyed if people give up. And I feel like people are finally awake.

In that perverse bit of history, Republicans would have been able to do much more long term damage, basically becoming the ruling party for the next decade or so, had Hillary won. They would have cleaned up in the elections this year. But not only do they not have apathetic Democrats, their philosophy has been laid bare.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:52:20am

re: #162 Belafon

It’s good, but there’s optimism I keep mentioning. We’ve got bad people in bad places, but our Democracy will only be destroyed if people give up. And I feel like people are finally awake.

In that perverse bit of history, Republicans would have been able to do much more long term damage, basically becoming the ruling party for the next decade or so, had Hillary won. They would have cleaned up in the elections this year. But not only do they not have apathetic Democrats, their philosophy has been laid bare.

I can’t phrase this well but my fear going into 2016 was that had HRC won, we’d see another ugly midterm in 2018, and then Republicans would try to play off Dem in the WH fatigue in 2020. I mean I hate where we are but my belief was we were sort of in a rough situation either way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:57:29am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I can’t phrase this well but my fear going into 2016 was that had HRC won, we’d see another ugly midterm in 2018, and then Republicans would try to play off Dem in the WH fatigue in 2020. I mean I hate where we are but my belief was we were sort of in a rough situation either way.

That does seem to be the silver lining here, and the degree of motivation and mobilization we have seem among Dems would never have happened following a HRC victory.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:00:31am

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

Frank knows knives……

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:01:10am

re: #151 JordanRules

Well, that kind of blows a hole in Nunes’ memo.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:02:32am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That does seem to be the silver lining here, and the degree of motivation and mobilization we have seem among Dems would never have happened following a HRC victory.

Yeah no way do we win that Alabama senate seat. We are where we are. I’m eager to learn the lessons of 2016 and give Trump an ass kicking this fall and in 2020.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:02:54am

re: #166 Belafon

Indeed! Another hole. A huge one.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:03:46am

re: #136 MsJ

Damn, Jon. Tell it like it is, brother!

Thank you President Trump. Americans are “Dreamers” too.

The only “Dreamers” you know, David, dream about ropes, trees, and burning crosses.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:06:30am

You know, it’s easy for me to see how fake right wing bullshit works. Don’t know if you guys have seen the one with the fake Pelosi tweet following the tax cut’s passage. I have no desire to respond to all the RW bullshit I see because I know that they already know that the fake shit happened and that they don’t want to be told they were duped.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:08:48am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

You know, it’s easy for me to see how fake right wing bullshit works. Don’t know if you guys have seen the one with the fake Pelosi tweet following the tax cut’s passage. I have no desire to respond to all the RW bullshit I see because I know that they already know that the fake shit happened and that they don’t want to be told they were duped.

I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:14:19am

re: #171 Belafon

I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.

I pretty much told my one conservative friend when he posted something so easy to research and debunk that him posting it made him look uninformed. Then the next day, he posted something equally incorrect and I just shrugged my shoulders. Sigh. I don’t dislike social media but it can be poisonous in spreading propaganda in a way like we’ve never seen before.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:14:35am

Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.

Could’ve happened that way too! :)

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:14:48am

re: #129 MsJ

Walsh’s argument is appalling. An honest to God WTF? Her parents are Democrats? Who cares?

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Good Memo(?) Morning.

Joan sometimes gets a little wobbly in her thinking. I remember many times seeing her on MSNBC shows and thinking WTF?

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:15:15am

A knife is only as good as the cutting edge you can put on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:15:36am

re: #173 JordanRules

only in a universe in which HRC won in the first place, namely, not our timeline

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:16:18am

re: #173 JordanRules

Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.

Could’ve happened that way too! :)

That’s true too. We’ll never know unfortunately.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:17:29am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did I misread a bunch of comments?
Folks were saying what wouldn’t have happened if she won and I countered with another possible scenario.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:17:32am

Tough year for the US Navy

The U.S. military’s latest test of its Standard Missile 3 Block IIA ballistic missile interceptor has reportedly failed. So far, it’s unclear what happened, and the weapon is still in development, but it does come amid months of escalating tensions between the United States and North Korea and reports that authorities in Pyongyang are planning a parade with hundreds of ballistic missiles, likely in no small part to dissuade the U.S. government from considering a limited “bloody nose” strike.
CNN was first to report the apparent failure on Jan. 31, 2018. The test launch would be the fifth for the weapon, commonly referred to as the SM-3 Block IIA, and the third in which it attempted to actually intercept another missile. The last such experiment, which occurred in June 2017, also failed, but this was because a U.S. Navy sailor accidentally triggered the missile’s self-destruct function. Another SM-3 Block IIA had successfully knocked down a target for the first time four months earlier. The U.S. military plans to eventually add the weapons to the Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class destroyers and install them at fixed Aegis Ashore sites in Europe. Japan is a major partner in the program and plans to equip its own warships with the weapon and establish land-based Aegis Ashore facilities within its territory.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:18:20am

re: #169 Belafon

The only “Dreamers” you know, David, dream about ropes, trees, and burning crosses.

Something a lot of people don’t realize is that the Trump show of racism actually boosts his approval ratings because his voters are racists and it distracts from his toxic unpopular agenda of giving the country away to corporations.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:22:55am

re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus

She has to get out from under the desk first.

Heh.

Would it not be justice that Hope turns on Trump, admits she is under the desk often, Trump says he didn’t have sex with…that woman…and that is what actually brings him down.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:24:10am

re: #8 Citizen K

Isn’t it funny how veterans become a priority only when they can be used as a cudgel against immigrants? Much the same way the poor become a priority only when they can be used against ‘migrant workers’, much the same way mental health becomes a priority only when it can be used against gun control, much the same way…

You don’t give a flying fuck about veterans past using them as a prop to get your hate on, you sad, sad little hatemonger. Go home, Tomi, it’s late.

They serve. They do honorable work. The GOP would give them all the boot because they’re not white and European. It’s nativism and xenophobia and flat out racism. Trump’s immigration policy was drafted with white supremacists and bigots in mind, and they’re the strongest supporters of this.

They want to slow immigration to the lowest levels in nearly 100 years - and it’s no accident. It’s slamming the door on legal immigration shut. Both in total numbers and on percentage basis, the GOP is looking to eliminate immigration, especially when those immigrants are coming from non European nations, because how dare someone come to the US looking for a better life.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:24:20am

re: #173 JordanRules

Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.

Could’ve happened that way too! :)

That sounds appealing, but we know from history that the party holding the White House is at a disadvantage in midterm elections. If Clinton was President, the mainstream media would’ve blown the report that she kept an accused sexual harasser on her campaign staff into a major scandal, and several congressional committees would already be investigating it.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:24:35am

re: #173 JordanRules

Imagine this…
HRC becomes President and they do try to take her down on some blatant RU assisted BS
Weinstein happens, all those dominoes continue to fall
HRC is in a singularly powerful position to speak out about it because she’s the Leader of the Free World and a woman
Republicans are using all the same shitty tactics, resources and candidates
RU does some shitty hacking and are rightly pegged as a threat
Obama is in a unique position now since his legacy is being upheld and celebrated
HRC continues to work harder, stabilizing the world in some ways while being subjected horrible stuff from the GOP and RU.
Women and Dems then become mobilized for a blue wave to support her and democracy rather than resist the regime that stole it from her and us.

Could’ve happened that way too! :)

There’s only one flaw in your rather awesome version of the future: You left out Bernie.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:26:02am

re: #155 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Whoa…the yellows are really evident today. Nice color. Must be a clear morning and a big bright sun.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:27:39am

re: #182 lawhawk

They serve. They do honorable work. The GOP would give them all the boot because they’re not white and European. It’s nativism and xenophobia and flat out racism. Trump’s immigration policy was drafted with white supremacists and bigots in mind, and they’re the strongest supporters of this.

They want to slow immigration to the lowest levels in nearly 100 years - and it’s no accident. It’s slamming the door on legal immigration shut. Both in total numbers and on percentage basis, the GOP is looking to eliminate immigration, especially when those immigrants are coming from non European nations, because how dare someone come to the US looking for a better life.

If I could figure out a merit based way of giving citizenship, I know which group I’d be giving it to, and it’s got nothing to do with place of birth. I’m not going to invent a merit based way of giving out citizenship because it would just be corrupted.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:29:21am

re: #183 Big Beautiful Door

I wanted to paint with a nice rosey color today for my alternate timeline, but the point was we only have speculation.
What did happen reminds us how fragile shit is and how much the unexpected can snowball.
What was that number that Putin stood to lose if she became POTUS? Might have been in the trillions. Anything could have happened.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:30:03am

re: #186 Belafon

Instead, we get a quota based system that reeks of racism and bigotry.

The same arguments made by GOPers about how we shouldn’t let Muslims in or people from certain countries because they’re a terrorist threat are lifted virtually word for word from the very same arguments made against allowing Jews fleeing the Holocaust and Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s to enter the US.

It’s not a coincidence.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:31:37am

re: #166 Belafon

Well, that kind of blows a hole in Nunes’ memo.

I made a comment months ago, just after Carter Page did that whack interview with Chris Hayes, that I had a feeling things could turn out to where he was the guy that brings Trump down. Something about him…

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:32:18am

re: #184 Belafon

It felt nice to forget him!

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:39:27am

re: #160 Belafon

A person familiar with the lawmaker’s plans said that Mr. Gowdy had turned down an offer by the Trump administration to nominate him for a judgeship on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit and that he planned to enter private practice in South Carolina instead.
nytimes.com

Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.

That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.

It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:43:03am

re: #191 lawhawk

Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.

That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.

It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.

I thought it was a seat on the South Carolina Supreme Court that became available not the Court of Appeals.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:44:52am

re: #191 lawhawk

Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.

That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.

It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.

Is it okay to not believe any of it and then wait some time to see what really happens with Gowdy? There is just so much to not trust about Republicans in the time of Trump.

We all thought Issa was done, and then he seems to be running in a different district.

I don’t trust any of them about anything. Snakes! We are dealing with snakes.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:45:36am

re: #190 JordanRules

It felt nice to forget him!

I know, but considering that he tried to run against Obama in 2012, he’d do it during 2020, and you can imagine how much chaos that would have caused.

Now, I was an enthusiastic Clinton supporter. In that reality, I would be fighting my butt off, trying to get people to vote, and warning them of what could be coming if they don’t vote, and pulling my hair out at the Bernie supporters working with the Russians to subvert Democrats chances. But, in this reality, having to deal with what we have, I am encouraged by people finally waking up. Now, if we could only figure out a way to make the Democratic party function in such a way that it encourages people to remain vigilant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:47:49am

re: #184 Belafon

There’s only one flaw in your rather awesome version of the future: You left out Bernie.

Bernie left the party open to some weapons-grade ratfucking. I really wonder how many Berniebro “supporters” were actuall trolls and/or shills paid to indirectly attack HRC and weakening the Democratic party by supporting an ultimately unelectable candidate.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:48:05am

On yesterday’s Monmouth 47 45 gasp! 2 points poll

Responding were 32% Democrats, 29% Republicans, and 39% independent
Gee I wonder if that means anything?

Back later

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:48:41am

re: #191 lawhawk

Well, that adds to the intrigue…. if only because it seemed like it was a too cute by half coincidence of him stepping down and the seat being there for the taking.

That he isn’t going for the judicial nomination when the GOP controls the process suggests that there’s more skeletons in his closet he doesn’t want revealed.

It also suggests that he’s not nearly as skilled as a jurist as he makes himself out to be.

It could just be that he wants to make a lot more money than a judge’s salary.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:49:22am

re: #189 ObserverArt

I made a comment months ago, just after Carter Page did that whack interview with Chris Hayes, that I had a feeling things could turn out to where he was the guy that brings Trump down. Something about him…

I still think he was doing all that crazy shit to fuck shit up.

Still can’t figure out exactly how, though. Gotta be some angle to all how he was behaving, and if he’s actually a Russian asset he wouldn’t be working to bring Trump down. Not intentionally, anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:54:38am

re: #194 Belafon

I know, but considering that he tried to run against Obama in 2012, he’d do it during 2020, and you can imagine how much chaos that would have caused.

Now, I was an enthusiastic Clinton supporter. In that reality, I would be fighting my butt off, trying to get people to vote, and warning them of what could be coming if they don’t vote, and pulling my hair out at the Bernie supporters working with the Russians to subvert Democrats chances. But, in this reality, having to deal with what we have, I am encouraged by people finally waking up. Now, if we could only figure out a way to make the Democratic party function in such a way that it encourages people to remain vigilant.

I wonder about that too. I’m hoping Bernie crashes early this time so there’s no need for conspiracy theories but we have to acknowledge he does have legitimate support.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:54:48am

re: #198 makeitstop

I still think he was doing all that crazy shit to fuck shit up.

Still can’t figure out exactly how, though. Gotta be some angle to all how he was behaving, and if he’s actually a Russian asset he wouldn’t be working to bring Trump down. Not intentionally, anyway.

Could be. For sure he is the strangest character in all of this. The act could be a cover in that everyone may think no way this flake has anything to do with anything legit and heavy.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:55:43am

re: #198 makeitstop

He could just be a weird dude. Rachel kept mentioning how the Russians were continually amazed by his idiocy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:55:50am

re: #197 Big Beautiful Door

It could just be that he wants to make a lot more money than a judge’s salary.

Lobbying, FNC job, etc all pay more than a judgeship and with less scrutiny too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:58:25am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Lobbying, FNC job, etc all pay more than a judgeship and with less scrutiny too.

Exactly, there are so many lucrative opportunities for a guy like Gowdy it would be strange for him to accept an appointment to a federal circuit court.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:06:27am

Please mouse over this pic and tell me if my caption is an accurate description for the vision impaired.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:08:12am

re: #171 Belafon

I occasionally just ask people “Do you like to be conned?” and leave it at that. I don’t care at that point about the answer, but it’s my last word in.

I ask them, “Why do you like to be lied to?”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:10:02am

re: #187 JordanRules

I wanted to paint with a nice rosey color today for my alternate timeline, but the point was we only have speculation.
What did happen reminds us how fragile shit is and how much the unexpected can snowball.
What was that number that Putin stood to lose if she became POTUS? Might have been in the trillions. Anything could have happened.

(Bernie could have been run over by a bus while traveling to HRC’s inauguration. Or accepted a Cabinet office in her administration. Isn’t this fun?)

“All contrary to fact conditions are true because their premise is false.”

JR’s is as good as any, and much more pleasant — and it’s equally silly to argue about any of them.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:11:37am

re: #204 darthstar

Please mouse over this pic and tell me if my caption is an accurate description for the vision impaired.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:12:26am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bernie left the party open to some weapons-grade ratfucking. I really wonder how many Berniebro “supporters” were actuall trolls and/or shills paid to indirectly attack HRC and weakening the Democratic party by supporting an ultimately unelectable candidate.

I would say moreso than not.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:04am

re: #206 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

(Bernie could have been run over by a bus while traveling to HRC’s inauguration. Or accepted a Cabinet office in her administration. Isn’t this fun?)

“All contrary to fact conditions are true because their premise is false.”

JR’s is as good as any, and much more pleasant — and it’s equally silly to argue about any of them.

True enough. I’ve been wondering in frustration why InTouch Magazine didn’t run its Stormy Daniels interview back in 2016, WHEN IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE, GODDAMMIT! But water under the bridge, spilt milk, etc.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:22am

re: #200 ObserverArt

Could be. For sure he is the strangest character in all of this. The act could be a cover in that everyone may think no way this flake has anything to do with anything legit and heavy.

re: #201 JordanRules

He could just be a weird dude. Rachel kept mentioning how the Russians were continually amazed by his idiocy.

Both good points. I still can’t shake the feeling that he’s too crazy by half, though.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:48am
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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:14:57am

This is fucking obstruction of justice. Full stop. There is no other term that can describe this.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:15:02am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:17:18am

re: #213 darthstar

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What kind of world are we living when when freaking Judge Napolitano is the voice of reason?

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:20:48am

re: #213 darthstar

“Therefore it wasn’t modified for political reasons.”

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:22:18am

I thought this was Joe Walsh when I replied. Wrote another reply under this saying the same to Joan…WTF?

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:24:03am

re: #215 Belafon

“Therefore it wasn’t modified for political reasons.”

I don’t watch Fox clips. But their tweet led me to believe even they questioned the motivation.

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Lupin  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:26:08am

Zimbabwe is looking for the money the Mugabe cronies stashed away,

You know, if it wasn’t for the nuclear weapons, the US is a lot closer to Zimbabwe right now, than any other western country.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:28:44am

re: #218 Lupin

Zimbabwe is looking for the money the Mugabe cronies stashed away,

You know, if it wasn’t for the nuclear weapons, the US is a lot closer to Zimbabwe right now, than any other western country.

Did any princes there send money to the US? :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:28:48am

“Highest number in history” LOL

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Lupin  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:30:53am

re: #219 Belafon

Did any princes there send money to the US? :)

My guess would be London, piggy bank of the crooks and tyrants, and/or the usual offshore suspects.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:37:55am

Very good quote to pull.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:38:22am

Surprising nobody.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:40:51am

Co-sign.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:41:35am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:42:13am

re: #224 makeitstop

Co-sign.

I may post this once a day here.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:43:01am

re: #225 lawhawk

But then they’d be a liberal news station.

Reaping what they sow.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:44:11am

Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:44:11am

We had another very good unemployment benefits claim report, with initial claims falling to 230k. Initial unemployment claims have been running under 300k per week for nearly three years now, a streak we haven’t seen since 1970 when the labor force was vastly smaller. This means that US employees continue to enjoy the greatest level of job security since at least before the Great Depression. Thanks Obama!

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:46:02am
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:48:22am

re: #228 darthstar

Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?

She might be trying, but if she is, it’s not working. Because, if Mueller already has the messages, then Corallo is either going to perjure himself because he’d be lying, he’s going to confirm what Mueller already knows, or he’s going to give Mueller new information. None of those help Jr or Hicks.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:49:33am

re: #230 darthstar

What would the Party of Lincoln, which competently ran the government for most of a half century from Abraham Lincoln until Woodrow Wilson, make of the current crop of incompetent, corrupt neo-confederates who call themselves Republicans now?

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:50:34am

re: #228 darthstar

Is it just me or does Maggie sound like she’s casting doubt on Corallo?

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Of course she is. She’s got a book deal to honor, and honor it she will.

Too bad Wolff got all the juicy bits.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:51:47am
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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:53:27am

re: #233 makeitstop

Of course she is. She’s got a book deal to honor, and honor it she will.

Too bad Wolff got all the juicy bits.

Yes, but did he? This WH is like a poorly wrapped raw roast in the refrigerator. Shit’s seeping out from every angle.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:55:52am

re: #235 darthstar

Yes, but did he? This WH is like a poorly wrapped raw roast in the refrigerator. Shit’s seeping out from every angle.

That’s as may be, definitely. But Maggie won’t write it.

Wolff’s book was a ‘searing expose.’ I expect Maggie’s to be a ‘sycophantic hagiography.’

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:57:21am

re: #236 makeitstop

And just flat out corny, flowery writing. Not impressed with her style, even at Politico.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:58:20am

sniff, sniff…I smell snark. Just like mom used to make.

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:00:42am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Thanks for the comment. When that photo was taken it was, indeed, a bright and sunny morning. Please be advised that the photos accompanying my morning greeting are usually not taken on the day they are posted here. The feeder photos are reviewed only after several days have gone by. We save some of the photos and erase the rest. I have no firm criteria for choosing but color, action, species type, and number of individuals are among them.

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danarchy  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:03:16am

re: #96 Single-handed sailor

Strange. I can buy this knife online in California. Flick the quillon with your finger and it opens as fast and easy as any switchblade.

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Heh, I actually own this knife in drop point straight edge not serrated tanto though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:06:02am

What’s underneath Trump’s hair? (in privacy tags bc NSFW)

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:06:22am

A few Republicans seem to be getting cold feet here…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:08:41am

infrastructure…like, maybe, trains?

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:10:53am
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danarchy  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:11:59am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

It’s utterly insane. It’s also nowhere near the absolute high end in terms of price. This is just the most recently added page at Arizona Custom Knives.

This is the most expensive pocket knife I’ve ever seen.

WilliamHenry

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:13:39am

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

What’s underneath Trump’s hair? (in privacy tags bc NSFW)

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This assumes he has a working penis.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:13:41am

So let’s say at the end of the Mueller investigation Jared gets Indicted, Hope Hicks gets indicted, Trump Jr. gets indicted, Bannon cuts a plea deal and clear evidence comes out that Donald Trump obstructed justice on a number of occasions in addition to other serious crimes.

If a sitting President can’t be indicted does it not still fall to the utterly spineless GOP to act on removing Trump?

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:17:30am

re: #246 darthstar

This assumes he has a working penis.

GAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:17:51am

LOL

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:21:13am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Another Republican who must have been silent when he swore to protect the constitution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:22:02am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

So let’s say at the end of the Mueller investigation Jared gets Indicted, Hope Hicks gets indicted, Trump Jr. gets indicted, Bannon cuts a plea deal and clear evidence comes out that Donald Trump obstructed justice on a number of occasions in addition to other serious crimes.

If a sitting President can’t be indicted does it not still fall to the utterly spineless GOP to act on removing Trump?

It falls on them to come up with enough spurious and contrived “facts” to discredit the investigation and spin it as a partisan Deep State witch hunt

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:26:02am

re: #242 makeitstop

A few Republicans seem to be getting cold feet here…

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This is just another battle between Senate Republicans and their Crazy Cousins in the House. There are splits in the House too, but nothing more evident than the gap between House and Senate.

I don’t think the Freedom Caucus idiots are capable of having cold feet. That would mean they were warm-blooded. Those guys are really going to be the wrecking balls that destroy the Republican party.

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Lupin  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:27:58am

re: #250 Belafon

Another Republican who must have been silent when he swore to protect the constitution.

Let’s remember that (if memory serves) that a majority of Republicans voted against impeaching Nixon.

And let’s not even mention the attacks against FDR.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:33:00am

So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.

They may yet back down.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:42:31am

re: #254 makeitstop

So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.

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They may yet back down.

I thought all the GOP’ers were in West Virginia eating delicious and non-fattening coal at their retreat? They’re coming back to fix the fake memo?

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:44:15am

re: #255 bill d. (b.d.)

I thought all the GOP’ers were in West Virginia eating delicious and non-fattening coal at their retreat? They’re coming back to fix the fake memo?

It’s going back to them tomorrow.

Those kittens aren’t going to eat themselves, y’know.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:44:22am

Going up here… What about #MAGA?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:44:59am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

“Highest number in history” LOL

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:46:11am

They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:01am

re: #259 makeitstop

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They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.

That would make for a pretty short memo.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:20am

re: #259 makeitstop

So, everything but “Nunes” and “memo”?

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:21am

‘Research consulting.’ With Russians. Uh-huh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:33am

I bet you the GOP will backpedal and refuse to release the damned thing.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:48:57am

re: #258 Stanley Sea

If/when Fox News turns on Trump, it’s going to be entertaining as fuck all.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:49:18am

re: #254 makeitstop

So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.

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They may yet back down.

I hope it gets to the point where the crazies all in for Trump get pissed off because it isn’t coming out fast enough and they start calling Trump a chicken, cuck, etc.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:53:33am

This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee made “material changes” to a secret memo he shared with lawmakers before sending it to the president to approve for final release, the top Democrat on the committee said Wednesday night.

Adam Schiff (Calif.), the committee’s ranking Democrat, called on Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) to withdraw the version of the classified memo he sent to the White House on Monday, arguing that a prior vote in favor of releasing the memo was invalidated by Nunes’ changes.

Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:55:06am

re: #257 Dave In Austin

Going up here… What about #MAGA?

Seems like it was only yesterday that this would have been damn near a treasonous offense to the Right

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:58:15am

re: #266 KGxvi

This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:

Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.

Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:58:25am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

dammit, Bill, did you think we were serious about that shit? That stuff only matters when a Democrat’s president. We all own stock in oil companies, hell, Gary over there owns like eight gas stations, nobody here is actually against higher gas prices, we just have to say that we are, occasionally, but not when it means bad press for our side

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:00:19am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?

I don’t think so, but I don’t have a lot of knowledge about how committee assignments work, and if there are special rules for the intelligence committee.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:02:08am

re: #266 KGxvi

This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:

Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.

At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.

All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:06:30am

re: #225 lawhawk

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appx us population 1993: 260m, 66.9/260 = about 25.7% of the population
appx us population 2018: 326m, 45.6/326 = about 13.9% of the population

sad
SOTFU

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:07:02am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

They made those claims before the memo and would still make them without it. Hell, given the level of coordination between the alt-right players and the WH, you could have a ‘chicken or egg’ debate here.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:07:43am

re: #225 lawhawk

Fake news! Eleventy-trillion watched Trump MAGA speech!!!

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:07:56am

re: #266 KGxvi

This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:

Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.

He could very well be setting himself up for obstruction charges. The man’s a fucking idiot, but he’s definitely either got something on somebody, or he’s compromised up to his fucking chin.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:08:32am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.

All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.

Not only that, the FBI were investigating Carter Page before anyone had heard of the dossier. Page was, apparently, the target of Russian spies trying to cultivate American assets.

Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:10:22am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

Does he have the power to remove Schiff from the Committee?

I don’t think he can. I think the committees are made up by the party. If Republicans are in control they get a majority of committee members. The Democrats have less. I think the committee members then pick their leaders, so the Republicans took Nunes and Dems Schiff. I would think only the Democrats could remove Schiff.

However, if there is a legal or ethical problem House Speaker Ryan might be able to force a member off a committee or disband it if need be. The Speaker of the House oversees all of the goings on in the House.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:11:00am

re: #273 JordanRules

They made those claims before the memo and would still make them without it. Hell, given the level of coordination between the alt-right players and the WH, you could have a ‘chicken or egg’ debate here.

But the memo (I’m guessing) is really a step beyond where they’ve gone before, putting their conspiracy theories on the record, as it were, which could and likely will blow up in their faces. Although of course I realize that in some ways they’re just trying to muddy the waters for their deluded base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:11:59am

re: #276 KGxvi

Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.

That was the Soviets. Now Russia is governed by an autocratic ruler who maintains a theocratic state. Just the sort of thing they would like to see, the only difference being that they want Protestant Fundamentalist theocracy instead of Russian Orthodox.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:12:33am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

But the memo (I’m guessing) is really a step beyond where they’ve gone before, putting their conspiracy theories on the record, as it were, which could and likely will blow up in their faces. Although of course I realize that in some ways they’re just trying to muddy the waters for their deluded base.

But I think releasing the memo is a pretty desperate move that will at best for them only “muddy” the waters. And it won’t likely change the course of Mueller’s investigation, unless the memo leads to other, personnel, changes (and that may be and likely is it’s primary objective).

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:13:55am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

Right. Nunes using his position to formalize the garbage as it were.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:13:59am

re: #276 KGxvi

Not only that, the FBI were investigating Carter Page before anyone had heard of the dossier. Page was, apparently, the target of Russian spies trying to cultivate American assets.

Also, it’s funny, because I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” defended the FBI and were suspicious of Russia.

And it invites an examination of the FISA warrant, and that won’t go well for Nunes and Trump. It will make them look like idiots at best. Again, really desperate move it seems to me.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:14:46am

re: #271 Sir John Barron

At least it is becoming clearer why Trumpbots have been bitching about the “dossier”—-apparently the Nunes memo will allege that the Clinton campaign funded the dossier and pitched to the Obama Administration’s FBI which used that information to get the OK to spy on people from the Trump campaign. They’re alleging of course that the whole Russia investigation was illegitimate at best, but manipulated by Obama/Clinton at worst. This is why the MAGAbots are making such a hullabaloo about it—all very Corrupt Deep State, blah blah blah.

All nonsense, considering Obama’s FBI came out a week before the election with the infamous letter “reopening” the Hillary email investigation. But there you have it.

And remember, the FBI claims the investigation actually started with Papadopoulos in the bar with the Aussie diplomat.

That all seems to have been forgotten already with the Nunes memo. And that has had me confused about all of this memo stuff, since it seems the claims in the memo come after the fact the investigation was already rolling.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:14:57am

re: #245 danarchy

This is the most expensive pocket knife I’ve ever seen.

WilliamHenry

Some interesting knife stuff last night. I mostly buy either CRKT for short or folding blades and Windlass Steelcraft for my long blades (US 1860 saber, etc). Inexpensive but well made and durable.

I got this knife most recently: crkt.com on close out so it was pennies on the dollar :)

That WilliamHenry is quite the piece. Beautiful work even though that’s not to my taste. Not quite as bad as some of the gold inlayed shotguns I’ve seen of late, but still too gaudy for my preferences in a tool.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:15:08am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

lol “People in Kentucky are disappointed in Rosenstein” … yeah, no doubt

these reps and senators do not seem to want to understand they work for their district, their state and the country as a whole

if you only want to work for your state, be a state rep
if you only want to work locally, join the city council, run for mayor

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:17:22am

re: #254 makeitstop

So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.

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They may yet back down.

instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:18:41am

re: #286 dangerman

instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties

It is about establishing narrative talking points. The ultimate goal being to undermine the FBI investigation before it presents its findings.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:18:43am

re: #259 makeitstop

Trump has read the Nunes memo

They probably redacted all the words he didn’t understand.

amazing that it has to be announced, without irony, that trump read something

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:20:25am

re: #269 KGxvi

dammit, Bill, did you think we were serious about that shit? That stuff only matters when a Democrat’s president. We all own stock in oil companies, hell, Gary over there owns like eight gas stations, nobody here is actually against higher gas prices, we just have to say that we are, occasionally, but not when it means bad press for our side

…you know, like deficits

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:21:59am

re: #289 dangerman

…you know, like deficits

I recall back when there was actually a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush Limbaugh was explaining that it is immoral for the government to run a surplus because it means they are taking more money from us than they need to operate.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:22:00am

re: #286 dangerman

instead of releasing it, they will refer to it and talk around it, and it will attain mythic (and mystical) properties

That’s what I was saying yesterday - the Trump cultists will accept it as the gospel truth, whether or not they release it. Son of Benghazi.

All the bluster about releasing it is starting to look like dopey gamesmanship. They’re really not very good at this.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:23:18am
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:24:36am

re: #254 makeitstop

So…hype hype hype hype hype….nah, not today.

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They may yet back down.

WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:25:36am

re: #282 Sir John Barron

And it invites an examination of the FISA warrant, and that won’t go well for Nunes and Trump. It will make them look like idiots at best. Again, really desperate move it seems to me.

everyone watches tv where a “warrant” is like a single piece of paper waved at the guy answering the door

im guessing (i have no idea) a fisa “warrant” is probably a file full of papers and backup documentation - 20, 30, 50 pages or more?

the nunes memo is what, 4 pages?

lots of relevant information has to have been omitted (on purpose or otherwise)

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:26:39am

I wanted to add to the stabby knife discussion that was going on earlier…. Couple that I have.

February 1, 2018

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:26:53am

re: #266 KGxvi

This really is Stupid Watergate. I mean, how do you even begin to think you’re not going to get caught on something like this:

Nunes is going to end up being the lynchpin of this whole nightmare. Fucking stupid man that he is.

Someone said this the other day and I agree. Nunes is petrified something about *him* is going to come out. Nobody would protect trump this much. There is something there that scares the shit out of Nunes. And it’s personal.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:27:28am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:28:10am

re: #291 makeitstop

That’s what I was saying yesterday - the Trump cultists will accept it as the gospel truth, whether or not they release it. Son of Benghazi.

All the bluster about releasing it is starting to look like dopey gamesmanship. They’re really not very good at this.

They’ve been accepting it as gospel truth the moment it was first mentioned, all the while screaming obscenities at anyone who criticizes it because the critics haven’t seen it, etc. Typical wingnut BS, but much more harmful.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:28:13am

re: #211 lawhawk

Hillary is paying more of a price for this story, despite being excessively mischaracterized in as bad a way as it possibly could, than any GOPer is for their actual harrassment sins, which are actually far worse than they look on the surface once you scratch at it. Especially fucking Donald fucking Trump.

I love our political climate, don’t you?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:29:11am

re: #236 makeitstop

Wolff’s book was a ‘searing expose.’ I expect Maggie’s to be a ‘sycophantic hagiography.’

Repetitively redundant sack licking…

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:29:21am

re: #296 MsJ

Yup, he’s trying to make his needs align with the WH’s. And they probably easily align, but there is something else there besides loyalty.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:29:32am

I always wanted one of these.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:30:49am

re: #293 MsJ

WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.

On the hook being able to be charged with mishandling classified information.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:31:24am

While the world continues to burn, I’m enjoying Fargo (Sn 3)

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:31:30am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall back when there was actually a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush Limbaugh was explaining that it is immoral for the government to run a surplus because it means they are taking more money from us than they need to operate.

as do i
the concept that the there might be an unexpected, unplanned event in the future (hurricane, 9/11) is just beyond them.
let alone planned saving up for the future - ie infrastructure

not to mention that a budget surplus isnt money sitting in a bank, it can reduce the natl debt

no. congress never looks ahead. that’s why they are always in emergency funding mode

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A Mom Anon  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:32:12am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

Pretty much it’s down to this: If the Black Guy Did It, they will destroy it. Mostly because, hurrr,durrr, it will make those snowflake libturds cry. Never mind burning down the best parts of what makes America Awesome or shitting on whatever they don’t turn to ash. Spite. Greed. Hate. Anger. That’s all they’ve got.

Unfortunately, those things cause an awful lot of suffering and misery. That’s why I have a bit of a hard time with the concept of “playing nice”.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:34:01am

re: #302 Shropshire Slasher

I always wanted one of these.

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You would.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:35:23am

I’d be yelling in frustration right now, but it would scare my dogs

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:35:24am

re: #293 MsJ

WH folks know that if this is released, THEY will be on the hook for violations. Congress isn’t but WH staffers are not protected.

Not only that - Nunes’ own staff would be liable for releasing classified information.

This motherfucker would put his own people in legal jeopardy in order to obstruct this investigation.

Whatever they’ve got on him, it must be bad. Really, really bad.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:36:37am

re: #299 Citizen K

Hillary is paying more of a price for this story, despite being excessively mischaracterized in as bad a way as it possibly could, than any GOPer is for their actual harrassment sins, which are actually far worse than they look on the surface once you scratch at it. Especially fucking Donald fucking Trump.

I love our political climate, don’t you?

exhibits
1. donald trump’s personal behavior, ongoing
2. steve wynn’s personal behavior, last week
3. hillary clinton, as a “supervisor”, 8? years ago, being held to the “awareness” standards of 2018

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:37:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:40:47am
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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:42:19am

re: #272 dangerman

appx us population 1993: 260m, 66.9/260 = about 25.7% of the population
appx us population 2018: 326m, 45.6/326 = about 13.9% of the population

sad
SOTFU

But when you add in all the Russians who watched, maybe Trump did indeed have a record number of viewers.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:44:35am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

This is not a mistake. This is not an accident. This is not incompetence.

This is the result of the full throated revisionist efforts of the confederate fetishists to peddle the Lost Cause nationwide, and it’s fucking worked.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:45:22am

re: #294 dangerman

everyone watches tv where a “warrant” is like a single piece of paper waved at the guy answering the door

im guessing (i have no idea) a fisa “warrant” is probably a file full of papers and backup documentation - 20, 30, 50 pages or more?

the nunes memo is what, 4 pages?

lots of relevant information has to have been omitted (on purpose or otherwise)

The application for a warrant is long and detailed with lots of supporting documentation. The warrant itself is one page.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:46:52am

re: #313 sagehen

But when you add in all the Russians who watched, maybe Trump did indeed have a record number of viewers.

you may be right
i dont think nielsen’s in that market yet

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:47:50am
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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:48:02am

Junior, you’re such a fucking numbskull.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:49:15am

The memo has been leaked:

Our Dear Leader, the great and wonderful and sexy, Donald J Trump is da bomb and—> RULES!! He’s the bestest Dear Leader eva! sUCK IT, LibsZZ!~!!! Dear Leader Trump rules, Hillary droolszz!!!

Sincerely,
Cuckmaster Nunes

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:51:52am

re: #295 Dave In Austin

I wanted to add to the stabby knife discussion that was going on earlier…. Couple that I have.

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Video

I’ve got one I wear on my belt. Would like to get an automatic though. Probably after I get my bonus I’ll upgrade.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:51:55am

re: #314 Citizen K

As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:52:20am

re: #315 sagehen

The application for a warrant is long and detailed with lots of supporting documentation. The warrant itself is one page.

thanks. i learned something new today

in this context it seems to me (ianal) that once again they are morphing the meaning of words. using “warrant” as all encompassing - to mean all of it - the one page, and the app, and all the data. otherwise discussing “the warrant” becomes meaningless, im guessing

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:55:13am
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:55:44am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:57:08am

re: #321 Citizen K

As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?

As Rage Against the Machine once said:

He who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:00:37am

re: #325 KGxvi

Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.

Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:01:21am
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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:01:29am

Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:02:18am

re: #328 JordanRules

Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL

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FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:02:30am

re: #296 MsJ

Someone said this the other day and I agree. Nunes is petrified something about *him* is going to come out. Nobody would protect trump this much. There is something there that scares the shit out of Nunes. And it’s personal.

On Morning Joe, Heileman has taken to asking every guest whether they think Nunes is a Russian agent.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:02:47am

re: #327 Charles Johnson

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Yeah but Obama said I.

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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:03:38am

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:03:56am

re: #326 Citizen K

Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.

Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.

Eh, I’ve not actually read much Orwell (I know, that makes me a terrible person).

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:04:00am

re: #325 KGxvi

As Rage Against the Machine once said:

He who controls the past now controls the future, who controls the present now controls the past.

The toxic effects of text book publishers writing to the cost effective least common denominator so that they have the widest distribution for a single book. I would say that this is especially damaging to our country, except Americans have been notorious for knowing nothing about history. Southerners always focused on their treasonous version of the past, but others never paid much attention. What may be more damaging to our future is the elimination of much of modern science from science books to appease creationists.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:05:59am

re: #330 sagehen

On Morning Joe, Heileman has taken to asking every guest whether they think Nunes is a Russian agent.

And what have been some of the responses?

I don’t watch more than the first half-hour if I watch, but I don’t think Joe likes Nunes much either.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:07:01am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.

It’s a nice reminder, or should be, that there are plenty of religious practices that become secularized. Yoga, is, at it’s core, a religious practice. So are various forms of meditation. Perhaps his fear is that if those things can be secularized, so can certain aspects of Christianity.

And then there’s the whole history of Christianity consuming pagan rituals and claiming them as their own. But that’s another discussion.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:07:34am

re: #321 Citizen K

How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?

we already do — privatized prisons.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:07:47am

re: #328 JordanRules

Man these folks are ridiculous. LOL

It’s kind of amazing to see all of the Christians who think nothing of going to a yoga class. There are many excellent ways to get in shape that do not involve participating in Hindu worship.

as a non christian, i’ve been in lots of churches. even during services, masses, etc.
nothing ever happened to me (either way)

funnily, no one could ever tell i was an “outsider”

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jeffreyw  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:08:18am

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I’ve carried this off and on for about 45 years. It was wicked sharp when I bought it new, now it’s only troubled youth sharp. Stainless blade and brass handle, wooden scales.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:08:34am

re: #337 sagehen

we already do — privatized prisons.

QFT!!!!!!!!!!

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:08:38am

re: #326 Citizen K

Pretty sure they were quoting Orwell there.

Ol’ George must be weeping in his grave seeing how his warnings were used as manuals.

Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.

But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:09:02am

re: #337 sagehen

I meant discarding even the pretenses of that and just straight-up reimplementing slavery as the solution. We might as fucking well at this point, from the looks of it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:09:16am

I think Re: history, schools could benefit their students by having people who have been eyewitnesses to history come in. I remember a D-Day vet and I’ve heard other people talk about Holocaust survivors too. Perhaps have people who were part of the Civil Rights Movement. For me as a former history major, reading first hand accounts always resonated more than second hand academia which is probably why while not the most academic, Rise and Fall worked so well since William Shirer was there.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:09:50am

re: #333 KGxvi

Eh, I’ve not actually read much Orwell (I know, that makes me a terrible person).

no… better you only get your information here and do as we say

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:10:11am

re: #337 sagehen

we already do — privatized prisons.

The slavery portion explicitly allowed by the 13th amendment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:10:20am

re: #341 Belafon

Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.

But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.

My Texas brother certainly thinks that is true. The ignorance is great in this country, especially for those living in the South,

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:10:26am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

FFS it’s a Yoga class. Grow up snowflake.

I’d bet that Matt would be apoplectic if he found the California State Assembly Chaplain is a Jodo Shinshu Buddhist - the Rev. Bob Oshita.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:10:39am

Watergate era Doonsbury.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:11:08am

re: #341 Belafon

Republicans took it as an instruction manual. Everyone else thought it couldn’t happen here.

But, the majority of adults don’t understand what slavery means to this country’s history. Most just think it was a thing in the South that ended in 1865, and that we’re done with it.

Most also think that the Notth was a pardon the phrase safe place for freed slaves and their descendants. I hear so often- my family never owned slaves.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:11:20am

re: #344 dangerman

no… better you only get your information here and do what we say

there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:12:44am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Most also think that the Notth was a pardon the phrase safe place for freed slaves and their descendants. I hear so often- my family never owned slaves.

We need to teach the history of slavery, not just in America, but the entire history of human slavery. And point out that every slave-holding nation either abolished slavery or perished.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:12:45am

re: #350 KGxvi

there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.

Homage to Catalonia is different than 1984 and Animal Farm. Give that one a read.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:13:41am

re: #350 KGxvi

there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.

that’s ok. that’s what we wanted you to do

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:14:32am

America’s ignorance on slavery really hasn’t changed much because America has never really wanted to come to terms with it. That could change, and should change, with the group Democrats are based on now. But it won’t be pretty going through it.

I had to pull part of the Texas declaration of secession to prove to a 35 year old coworker that the reason for leaving was slavery.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:14:37am

re: #345 Belafon

The slavery portion explicitly allowed by the 13th amendment.

Plugging Ava Duvernay’s documentary “The 13th” here.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:16:14am

re: #355 JordanRules

Plugging Ava Duvernay’s documentary “The 13th” here.

That was so good. It made my Dad really think about the African American experience in this country in a way he hadn’t before.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:16:14am

re: #328 JordanRules

There’s a song that comes to mind every time these religious extremists caterwaul about something that offends their sensitivities.

Nine Inch Nails-Heresy (with lyrics)

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:16:17am

re: #350 KGxvi

there’s just so much to read, and I feel like I got enough Orwellian entertainment from Twilight Zone marathons.

1984 is an American classic. You really should read it, especially now that a lot of what he foresaw is occuring. It may give you an appreciation as to how artists can see something now and think about how it may morph into the future. It is a scary vision.

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:16:39am

re: #335 ObserverArt

And what have been some of the responses?

I don’t watch more than the first half-hour if I watch, but I don’t think Joe likes Nunes much either.

The usual answer is “um… er… we’ve seen no definitive proof.” Nobody has yet said “that’s ridiculous, of course not.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:18:45am

re: #354 Belafon

America’s ignorance on slavery really hasn’t changed much because America has never really wanted to come to terms with it. That could change, and should change, with the group Democrats are based on now. But it won’t be pretty going through it.

I had to pull part of the Texas declaration of secession to prove to a 35 year old coworker that the reason for leaving was slavery.

We get told that our or those of us with Southern white ancestors were fighting for a flawed but fundamentally just cause. We don’t learn about Southern Unionists who risked everything including their lives for the Union.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:21:25am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

We get told that our or those of us with Southern white ancestors were fighting for a flawed but fundamentally just cause. We don’t learn about Southern Unionists who risked everything including their lives for the Union.

The cause of the US confederacy was the evil of human slavery. People who can’t accept that simple truth need to grow the fuck up.

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plansbandc  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:31:17am

re: #337 sagehen

I watched a Vice show about how the prison system works in Louisiana. It’s is truly slavery. Prisoners (read: blacks with minor pot possession convictions) staff the state house and serve lawmakers (read: white fat cat politicians). Sheriffs get a stipend for each day a prisoner they arrested is incarcerated. The money just piles on up.

Think the good ole boys in Louisiana want to change the pot laws and lose their slaves, er I mean guaranteed cheap labor?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:45:57am

re: #321 Citizen K

As an addition….this is why I’m scared that our ‘future generations’ will not save us, demographic shifts or no: because the GOP has already won the language war, and now the history war. We’ll have generations of kids who have been told slavery was a total non-factor, and may have been ‘beneficial’, completely disassociated from the horrors of the time. How long until we’ll have actual literal fucking movements to reimplement slavery as a means of addressing the ‘immigrant’ problem, or even just because they truly have seen blacks as literally and genetically inferior because of what they’re fed in school now?

If it makes you feel any better, my youngsters already know what started the Civil War and they are 11 and 13. They have fantastic teachers who add to history what is not in books as do I.


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