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freetoken  Apr 27, 2018 • 5:32:21pm

Repeat from downstairs with additional comment:

America, 2018, rural Washington state style:

Letter: Globalism vs. Nationalism

Globalists believe that the welfare of mankind is ultimately best served by an educated elite ruling within One World Government in order to avoid major wars and catastrophic events. They support bigger controlling governments to that end, forcing one’s will upon others in that whatever is best for the whole overrides individual rights. They usually support open borders, Democrats, anti Second Amendment, atheism, evolution, situational ethics, and man’s wisdom over God’s.

Nationalists believe that the welfare of mankind is best served by independent nations competing against each other with mutual cooperation of free trade on a level playing field in order to bring out the best in everyone. They believe that the stronger benevolent nations can best keep any rogue nations in check that wish to distribute evil weapons of war and to make war. They are patriotic to their national interests and welfare over other nations. They usually support local and limited government, individual rights, closed borders with legal immigration, Second Amendment, creationism, and trusting in God and his absolute truths that never change.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and as a person’s power increases, usually their sense of morality decreases. Do you support Globalism or Nationalism?

LEE WALTER, WEST RICHLAND

So there you have it, you evolutionist globalists.

Anyway, the letter is distillation of the religious-right — Trump alliance.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2018 • 5:35:34pm

re: #1 freetoken

Repeat from downstairs with additional comment:

America, 2018, rural Washington state style:

Letter: Globalism vs. Nationalism

So there you have it, you evolutionist globalists.

Anyway, the letter is distillation of the religious-right — Trump alliance.

A lot of that seems like projecting. Individual rights. Tell that to the people who want to smoke marijuana without Sessions interfering with them. Or the people who want to be gay and be happy and not have reparative therapy. The nationalists are pricks who want it bot hways.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 27, 2018 • 5:44:58pm

re: #1 freetoken

Repeat from downstairs with additional comment:

America, 2018, rural Washington state style:

Letter: Globalism vs. Nationalism

So there you have it, you evolutionist globalists.

Anyway, the letter is distillation of the religious-right — Trump alliance.

Nonsense of the highest order. A meaningless set of attributes that don’t apply to either category. But given that 46% of voters thought it was a good idea to make Trump president, it’s not surprising that so many Americans believe and promote such dishonest and destructive ideas. One cannot have a civil conversation with someone who adheres to such an ideology.

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Targetpractice  Apr 27, 2018 • 5:45:15pm

re: #1 freetoken

Repeat from downstairs with additional comment:

America, 2018, rural Washington state style:

Letter: Globalism vs. Nationalism

So there you have it, you evolutionist globalists.

Anyway, the letter is distillation of the religious-right — Trump alliance.

I could have an absolute field day with that whole paragraph on “nationalism” alone. just the 20th century alone disproves most of the damned thing, whether it was the superpowers provoking proxy wars in which the side the sponsored was showered with weapons and the opposition deemed a “rogue state,” to the “level playing field” of an America using its relatively unscathed status post-WWII to dominate international trade, to those “limited government” states promoting racism and bigotry in the name of God and trampling all over individual rights.

But it would be an absolute waste of my time, because any person who is saying these things is not making an intellectual argument, he’s regurgitating religious dogma and thus is beyond any rational arguments.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2018 • 5:49:07pm

If being a globalist means I acknowledge I live in a global economy where I buy global products and interact with people all over the world either directly or indirectly, so be it. As for the elites part though. I just have to laugh my ass off at that considering that the Trump administration is nothing but elites.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:00:02pm

Peter Kuper

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nines09  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:01:02pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:10:05pm
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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:12:16pm
“They usually support… man’s wisdom over God’s”

Show your work!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:12:52pm

re: #1 freetoken

Repeat from downstairs with additional comment:

America, 2018, rural Washington state style:

Letter: Globalism vs. Nationalism

So there you have it, you evolutionist globalists.

Anyway, the letter is distillation of the religious-right — Trump alliance.

A challenge for Mr. Walter - name one … just one country that embraced nationalism that also believed in the liberty of ALL of its countrymen, and not just the “chosen” ones.

Figure I’ll be waiting a long time for an answer to that one.

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:14:42pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:15:36pm

re: #10 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

A challenge for Mr. Walter - name one … just one country that embraced nationalism that also believed in the liberty of ALL of its countrymen, and not just the “chosen” ones.

Figure I’ll be waiting a long time for an answer to that one.

“America, of course!”

“Then explain ‘All Men Are Equal’ in light of the 3/5ths compromise, the mistreatment of natives in favor of settlers, the American Civil War, and the Civil Rights struggle of the 20th century.”

“SHUT UP, YOU GLOBALIST!”

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:16:39pm

“If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:16:45pm

re: #7 nines09

That sounds sooo good.
Just to share a wildly off topic thing. Every once in a while my job lets me see amazing things related. Yesterday I got a close up look at a diamond necklace from about 1850. Certainly pre civil war American made. I hit up the owner to let me do a magazine cover style shoot and feature pictorial on this artifact. Fingers crossed. The way it’s made fascinates me, literally created tiny 4 prong silver settings, or a rose gold foundation layer all strung on wire. But it comes apart into bracelets. Or a choker. Auction price would be low six figures. Anyways gtg to a meeting. See ya all in the late shift.

Facebook Post

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Dave In Austin  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:18:09pm

re: #11 jaunte

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That’s a deal right there. Yes sir!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:18:15pm

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:20:17pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Get busy monetizing your brand or get busy dying.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:21:23pm

Oh god, this whole thread is awesome!

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Schweppes7  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:24:13pm

He always finds a new way to misspell special counsel….

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Targetpractice  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:25:49pm

re: #19 Schweppes7

He always finds a new way to misspell special counsel….

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The same Committee also insists that a man who plead guilty to committing perjury was in fact innocent all along and his pleas are irrelevant.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:26:13pm
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Interesting Times  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:27:25pm

re: #3 Hecuba’s daughter

Nonsense of the highest order. A meaningless set of attributes that don’t apply to either category. But given that 46% of voters thought it was a good idea to make Trump president, it’s not surprising that so many Americans believe and promote such dishonest and destructive ideas. One cannot have a civil conversation with someone who adheres to such an ideology.

I daresay this is the best, most comprehensive thread on Cheeto Benito’s appeal that I’ve ever read. It’s long, but worth it. This excerpt might be the most chilling:

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:27:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:28:35pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:31:02pm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:33:15pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

I daresay this is the best, most comprehensive thread on Cheeto Benito’s appeal that I’ve ever read. It’s long, but worth it. This excerpt might be the most chilling:

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Wow that was a helluva a read.

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Jack Burton  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:45:39pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

That sped up recording of Trump ranting about… *everything* that Bob Cesca was playing on this Thursday show was hilarious. I almost had to pull over I was laughing so hard.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:52:26pm

re: #18 Ace-o-aces

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Oh god, this whole thread is awesome!

I can’t stop laughing!

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Interesting Times  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:52:32pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Wow that was a helluva a read.

And it also ties in to what I posted about the race vs. class messaging experiment, where the only message that succeeded in winning over a majority of otherwise bigotry-inclined white voters was:

“Whether white, black, or brown, 5th generation or newcomer, we all want to build a better future for our children. My opponent says some families have value, while others don’t count. He wants to pit us against each other in order to gain power for himself and kickbacks for his donors.”

I think this wins because it confronts appeals to racism head-on and frames them as a front for corruption that hurts white people as well. Naturally there will be far too many white voters who’ll be perfectly fine with any obscenity that promotes white supremacy. But some will feel more resentment at the thought of being tricked and taken advantage of, and if you manage to persuade enough of these people in the states that matter, you can win elections.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:57:26pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:58:05pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 27, 2018 • 6:59:10pm

re: #30 Amory Blaine

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I believe the good professor is currently scrambling to find out where he put the world’s tiniest violin.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:09:03pm

A beginner’s guide to the world of weird and wonderful Japanese import cars

Did you grow up playing Gran Turismo, marveling over the weird and wonderful Japanese market (JDM) cars that never made it to these shores? If you, too, always wanted to drive JDM exotica like a Nissan Skyline, Toyota Century, or Mazda Cosmo, prepare yourself for good news.

H.R.2628, the “Imported Vehicle Safety Compliance Act of 1988,” has long been a thorn for automotive enthusiasts in the USA. This is the official reason why, after you discovered those cars in Gran Turismo, you couldn’t actually buy one. Known as the ‘25 Year Rule,’ H.R.2628 essentially requires auto enthusiasts to wait 25 years to the month from when a vehicle was first manufactured before it can be legally imported if the vehicle wasn’t originally meant for sale in the US market.

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dangerman  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:21:22pm

re: #11 jaunte

#Maddow Kremlin lawyer : We always record every conversation. That is for my own security “. So she has a recording of the Trump Tower meeting then . That’s a shot , across the bow , at Trump jr and Jared Kushner

They didn’t know they were being recorded?

Amateurs

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:22:53pm

re: #14 Unshaken Defiance

That sounds sooo good.
Just to share a wildly off topic thing. Every once in a while my job lets me see amazing things related. Yesterday I got a close up look at a diamond necklace from about 1850. Certainly pre civil war American made. I hit up the owner to let me do a magazine cover style shoot and feature pictorial on this artifact. Fingers crossed. The way it’s made fascinates me, literally created tiny 4 prong silver settings, or a rose gold foundation layer all strung on wire. But it comes apart into bracelets. Or a choker. Auction price would be low six figures. Anyways gtg to a meeting. See ya all in the late shift.

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Any very proper diamond jewelry is multi use. LOVE IT.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:23:16pm

Peruvian songwriter Daniel Alomía Robles’s classic “El Cóndor Pasa” is 105 years old this year. My favorite rendition is by the French/Basque/Catalan folkpop singer Marie Laforet from back in 1966. Enjoy.

Marie Laforêt : Sur le chemin des Andes. ( El condor pasa )

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Charles Johnson  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:23:59pm
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Kragar  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:24:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:24:43pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Any very proper diamond jewelry is multi use. LOVE IT.

Diamonds and pearls. Mrs. Fish repurposed one of her pearl earrings into a necklace after she unfortunately lost its mate during a drive to fish country for Christmas last year.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:29:18pm

re: #38 Kragar

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:29:19pm

re: #25 De Kolta Chair

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My dad cheated on my mom, just like grandpa!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:30:32pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

My dad cheated on my mom, just like grandpa!

I’m my own grandpa!

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MsJ  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:31:53pm

re: #18 Ace-o-aces

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Oh god, this whole thread is awesome!

This one is just as funny.

The original is funny too. Some deplorables but much fun there.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:35:14pm

Who else is watching black mirror? I started with the current season, but my friend told me to go back to the first ep.

The prime minister. Omg

Omg

OMG

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:38:52pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Who else is watching black mirror? I started with the current season, but my friend told me to go back to the first ep.

The prime minister. Omg

Omg

OMG

Oh, yes, that guy. I’ve seen him in a few things. A terribly talented actor, that one.

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Kragar  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:48:01pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:48:27pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Can’t say as I am, but I am a big fan of the three bitchin’ Black Mirror point & click adventure games, the first of which was released in 2003. Highly recommended for fans of Hammer and Amicus horror flicks.

Eerie, no?
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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:49:56pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

I daresay this is the best, most comprehensive thread on Cheeto Benito’s appeal that I’ve ever read. It’s long, but worth it. This excerpt might be the most chilling:

[Embedded content]

Women should be pissed at this, but 53% of them said, “Works for me.”

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Chad Thundercock  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:50:52pm

re: #43 MsJ

“So if I get my daddy to give me millions of dollars worth of fish, then I’ll have millions of dollars worth of fish? Why didn’t I think of that?”

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 7:57:49pm

re: #45 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:01:33pm

re: #46 Kragar

A dilemma: Do we or don’t we freeze Kanye?

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:08:18pm

Did someone say Black Mirror?

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:09:39pm

“…Sesame’s system, which assigns a rating between 350 and 950, is murky and complicated. The company says even innocuous activities, like late-night web browsing or buying video games, could see one’s rank downgraded for “irresponsible” behavior. One undergraduate saw her score plummet to 350 after being named in an unresolved civil suit: Sesame had automatically listed her as a laolai, a deadbeat, “subject to enforcement for breaking trust.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:09:40pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:11:58pm

re: #52 jaunte

How Do You Control 1.4 Billion People?

The old fashioned way?

Hey, it works for me and I rule this orb!
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mmmirele  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:14:22pm

The “emotion picture” accompanying Janelle Monáe’s new album Dirty Computer dropped overnight. It’s worth a watch.

Janelle Monáe - Dirty Computer [Emotion Picture]

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:14:29pm

Dang. Now I need a Junior Mint.

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:21:08pm

Post 10pm mint/chocolate cravings will drop your credit score for “suspicion of irresponsible tendencies.”

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jaunte  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:22:53pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:23:33pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Just listened to this entire interview sped up at 2X. Fucking horrifying.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:29:31pm

re: #57 jaunte

No.

Only Senior Mints for you.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:30:16pm

re: #38 Kragar

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:31:13pm

re: #53 jaunte

“…Sesame’s system, which assigns a rating between 350 and 950, is murky and complicated. The company says even innocuous activities, like late-night web browsing or buying video games, could see one’s rank downgraded for “irresponsible” behavior. One undergraduate saw her score plummet to 350 after being named in an unresolved civil suit: Sesame had automatically listed her as a laolai, a deadbeat, “subject to enforcement for breaking trust.”

The bicycle/american idol episode!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:33:31pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

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Stanley Sea  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:35:31pm

I’m addicted to the nightmares I’m having/gonna have from Black Mirror.

Onward!

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BeachDem  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:46:47pm

re: #14 Unshaken Defiance

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Any very proper diamond jewelry is multi use. LOVE IT.

My grandmother’s deco diamond watch (now it’s MINE!!) Looked more sparkly before I had to reduce the size enough to post.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:46:52pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

No.

Only Senior Mints for you.

Are those the ones with white coatings?

//

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 8:54:05pm
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prairiefire  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:04:17pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Any very proper diamond jewelry is multi use. LOVE IT.

Or a parure set in a leather case! As I see on Antiques Roadshow and start to drool, “well, my grandpa was a bit of a gambler and he bought this for my grandma after a good night.”, lol.

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prairiefire  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:04:51pm

re: #66 BeachDem

Love it!

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:06:22pm

A little Colorado legal history.

This is “Amendment 2.”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:20:07pm
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BeachDem  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:23:36pm

re: #70 prairiefire

Love it!

Thanks—me too. I’ve actually worn it a few times, but I scare myself to death.

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prairiefire  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:59:12pm

re: #73 BeachDem

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:14:11pm

re: #73 BeachDem

Thanks—me too. I’ve actually worn it a few times, but I scare myself to death.

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