Seth Meyers Brings It Again: Trump’s Cruel Lies About His Family Separation Policy
Seth takes a closer look at Trump attacking the Russia investigation while lying about his administration’s cruel policy of separating families at the border.
Seth takes a closer look at Trump attacking the Russia investigation while lying about his administration’s cruel policy of separating families at the border.
Bringing it over:
Every family we (and yes, it’s we because it’s being done in our name) have separated is now our responsibility. We are responsible for getting them back together, and taking care of them. They need to be automatically made US citizens.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) June 19, 2018
BREAKING: Ex-CIA officer charged with massive leak to WikiLeaks https://t.co/WOLHV4PBp2
— POLITICO (@politico) June 19, 2018
I’m taking a break from this.
ALL trumps are cunts.
LOL Hannity is doing a conspiracy theory March Madness pic.twitter.com/Sq7pLejTa9
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 19, 2018
re: #4 I Would Prefer Not To
Be well come back all the stronger. ;-)
Side note: When Amazon messes up and “Add On” item, it is ridiculously complex to fix the problem as they don’t do replacements for “Add On” items.
Populating other planets with approved rich white people!
Going to galaxies where brown people can’t follow!
Putting a golf course on Uranus!
SPACE FORCE!— Christopher Titus (@TitusNation) June 19, 2018
re: #5 teleskiguy
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Those agents had every right to be worried about what a Trump presidency. Only fucking Lumpy would make Trump the victim on the night we actually heard the cries of children separaetd from their parents. Lumpy, I hope you rot for the non stop lies and propaganda you do for Trump. There’s a special place for people like you.
Space Admiral: Good morning, Men! Welcome to Space Force! I would like …
Space Major: Excuse me, Space Admiral, Sir.
A: What is it?
M: How do we get to space?
A: OK, see…
M: Me and the men bet it’s on Russian rockets.
A:
M:
A: Yes.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
re: #8 teleskiguy
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You know, I see his tweets alot, I really really enjoyed his sitcom back in the day. He’s still a clever dude and he’s on our side!
The mind is the superior weapon. I submit we have time to be methodical if we gather in numbers. Should that awful time come one day let there be no public words in advance.
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) June 19, 2018
Let me give an example. Imagine a few dozen, hundred or thousand of us show up at detention facilities with teddy bears for the kids? Let the men behind badges and guns and corporate logos refuse them. Or better yet allow them
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) June 19, 2018
Is Mexico going to pay for the Space Force too?
Spammit, CL’d.
You know that video was taken and actively released by the government, right? Unlike the Obama-era pic, there’s a *very* good chance what we’re seeing there is an #AmeicanTheresianstadt and that the real conditions are *worse*.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) June 19, 2018
re: #14 Chrysicat
Spammit, CL’d.
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I see someone only cares about Whataboutism. I’d ask them did they care in 2014?
It’s not enough to simply stop the policy. Everyone involved has to be hounded from public life, never allowed to complete a speech or eat at a restaurant in peace. The sanction against them has to be total and unforgiving and forever.
— Matt Bors (@MattBors) June 18, 2018
Amid all this horrible news, I offer some good news. My newest granddaughter was born in Iowa this evening (USA time). Mother and daughter are doing well.
I do have to ask one question: once the parents are gone, are they planning to try to adopt these children out into American families and ‘only’ destroy their culture, or are they planning to exterminate the children?
Sending them back to their families in the country of origin isn’t an option when there are no records keeping track of who their families are…
VOMITS
.@IngrahamAngle: “The United States is not an open repatriation center.” pic.twitter.com/hojXezHPe1
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 19, 2018
re: #7 freetoken
Side note: When Amazon messes up and “Add On” item, it is ridiculously complex to fix the problem as they don’t do replacements for “Add On” items.
They solved that problem for me by sending me five of an item and crediting me the cost difference from the addon item. So I got four free.
In other happy news, I’m out of the hospital and it wasn’t a heart attack. Now I have to figure out what would cause a life-threatening bronchiospasm.
And oh, yes, fuck Trump.
re: #8 teleskiguy
If Trump and his ilk permanently leave Earth, the Space Force would be worth every penny.
re: #20 The Vicious Babushka
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You’re allowed to apply for asylum in this country, you Nazi witch. FUCK YOU.
re: #20 The Vicious Babushka
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She’s such an evil bitch. But hey Laura you can’t hide behind the holy holiday excuse like you did last time. You’re just a malicious person.
re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹
Hey have any of these Pulpit Pimps chimed in yet?
Nope.
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Even Franklin Graham chimed in. I always thought Osteen was the biggest fraud of them all with his fake smile.
re: #13 Winston_Smith
Is Mexico going to pay for the Space Force too?
Only if they transport Trump and his gang to Mars and leave them.
No. Check that. Not Mars. Venus. It’s the closest thing we have to actual hell.
re: #20 The Vicious Babushka
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The best part of these people talking is they prove we’re not a Christian nation.
re: #23 Patricia Kayden
If Trump and his ilk permanently leave Earth, the Space Force would be worth every penny.
Put Trump, his family and his pals in the Jupiter 2…and have Dr. Smith sabotage it!
re: #29 Belafon
The best part of these people talking is they prove we’re not a Christian nation.
But the worst part is they prove that we still have a lot of evil in our nation.
re: #29 Belafon
The best part of these people talking is they prove we’re not a Christian nation.
America isn’t a Christian Nation. It’s been Ayn Rand’s nation ever since the New Right came to power in 1978 with Prop 13.
So many of these people I see. Ethnic names. Some of whom I even know like Miller who had immigrants who were fleeing conditions not unlike what these people are. And they still show no heart. None at fucking at all. I wish their immigrant ancestors could rise from the dead and kick their asses.
Smallpox champion u s of a
Give natives some blankets
Warm like the grave
This is the pattern cut from the cloth
This is the pattern designed to take you right out
This is the frontier with winter’s so cold
Greed informs action where action makes bold
To take all the cotton that’s cut from the stalk
Weave the disease that’s gonna wipe you right out
What is good for the future what was good for the past -
Won’t last
Bury your heart u s of a history rears up to spit in your face
You saw what you wanted
You took what you saw
We know how you got it
Your method equals wipe out
The end of the frontier and all that you own
Under the blankets of all that you’ve done
Memory serves us to serve you
Yet memory serves us to never let you wipe out
Cha-cha-cha-champion
You’ll get yours
Wipe out
re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹
America isn’t a Christian Nation. It’s been Ayn Rand’s nation ever since the New Right came to power in 1978 with Prop 13.
The marriage of her philosophy to Calvinist social doctrines was one of the worst marriages ever in philosophy.
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The term “Christian” no longer has any meaning here. If anything it’s become a slur describing greedy self righteous pricks who only believe in themselves.
re: #31 HappyWarrior
But the worst part is they prove that we still have a lot of evil in our nation.
Hopefully more people will see it.
I am an optimist. I fully believe we can end up better than where we are. But I try not to be blind to what people around me are like (though, being a white male, it can be tough to see it all), and i try not to be blind to who I am as a person, though I know I often fail. While I am an optimist, I have never been in the “it can’t happen here camp.” I just think the failure occurs because so many people don’t have keeping evil in its place on their to-do lists.
re: #36 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #38 Belafon
Hopefully more people will see it.
I am an optimist. I fully believe we can end up better than where we are. But I try not to be blind to what people around me are like (though, being a white male, it can be tough to see it all), and i try not to be blind to who I am as a person, though I know I often fail. While I am an optimist, I have never been in the “it can’t happen here camp.” I just think the failure occurs because so many people don’t have keeping evil in its place on their to-do lists.
I hope you’re right. I’m not fully cynical but I must confess it’s been harder for me to be optimistic. I’m worried less about what will happen at the polls but defeating this mindset within society. I desperately fear another two term successful Democratic president arising right wing resentment and a new right wing evil to form but I intend to do everything I can to flip my district this fall.
Hey, if Jewish people say that they are uncomfortable with the use of “concentration camps” to describe the horrific treatment of undocumented immigrants bc it feels like an exploitation of their trauma from genocide, IT’S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENING
— Ijeoma Oluo (@IjeomaOluo) June 18, 2018
THREAD #resist #ReleaseTheChildren https://t.co/tzSpJLgNav
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) June 19, 2018
At least the original Nazi social base went though Wold War One and the Depression. What are these people’s excuse? That Tim Allen show getting cancelled?
— Matt Christman (@cushbomb) June 18, 2018
re: #42 teleskiguy
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Oh it’s far worse than that, they get this have to acknowledge trans people by their preferred pronoun. So much anxiety!
How can someone do this to an innocent life?!? https://t.co/HdW24r1CNH
— Cats (@Cats) June 19, 2018
Same kind that take children from parents at the refugee processing process right here in the United States. https://t.co/2gy4Gfuo1e
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) June 19, 2018
I believe civility, decency & politeness are important. It’s not uncivil, indecent or impolite to name or call out racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism. Looking at you, Mr. President. And, your Cabinet. cc @POTUS & @WhiteHouse
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) June 19, 2018
Wow.
Rush Limbaugh told millions of radio listeners today that all the border reporting is a massive liberal media conspiracy, and that it’s being orchestrated by the legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.
I’m not kidding.https://t.co/XyEMfoYEaj— Michael Socolow (@MichaelSocolow) June 18, 2018
Someone teach the right more Jewish names. https://t.co/khy9SHVW3h
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) June 19, 2018
re: #45 makeitstop
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Wow.
I bet Donald and Eric Jr are either going to respond to this or like some of the most nasty replies to it. I adore Chelsea. She’s gotten hate from the right wing hate machine from the time she was a child and still carries on.
re: #46 teleskiguy
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I see Rush has finally gone the way of his long lost son, Alex Jones. Sey Hersh? LOL. Oh and BTW Rush, Hersh correctly exposed My Lai, maybe you should use an actual hoaxer rather than someone who actually did uncover something evil but go ahead play your anti semitic little games.
re: #46 teleskiguy
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GASP!
You mean Pigboy didn’t invoke…The Dreaded George Soros?
I’m shocked!
re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹
GASP!
You mean Pigboy didn’t invoke…The Dreaded George Soros?
I’m shocked!
Needed another Jew to rag on, Joe.
Tonight the Senate passed our bipartisan amendment to block the Trump Administration’s bad deal with ZTE. If the President won’t act on warnings from his own top intelligence officials about the dangers posed by ZTE, we will.
— Mark Warner (@MarkWarner) June 18, 2018
So tonight Trump threatened a double triple super trade war against China to destroy their economy with fire and fury.
But he is still defying his own Pentagon and risking a veto override to stick up for ZTE.
Anybody want to bet there isn’t something hugely corrupt going on? https://t.co/KwH17rVsed— Jesse Lee (@JesseCharlesLee) June 19, 2018
Wait, so all this time the ‘Lock her up!’ chant was about an 8 year old girl from El Salvador?
— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) June 19, 2018
How about ‘Gentile, but LGBT’? Do we get a say in this since our equivalents at that time were taken away too? The Roma, who are about to go through this again in Italy? This is not like where only Black people have the right to speak on Jim Crow, I don’t think. Plz don’t block.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) June 19, 2018
bush and obama wouldn’t implement forced separation primarily because they’re not evil men but also because someone told them sir the logistics this creates are hellacious and unless you spend years preparing and millions of dollars children will die and you will own it
— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 19, 2018
do the girls over a certain age have male caregivers and no privacy? who is sanitizing bottles and laundry for infants? who is keeping a feeding schedule?
— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 19, 2018
re: #55 jaunte
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Regarding Bush, I was really glad to see that his family seems united in opposition to this. I sure as hell disagree with them on a lot of stuff and I sure as hell wanted to see him denied a second term but on immigration, W was not and is not a monster and in fact I would say is a fundamentally decent human being that I really wish more people in his party had listened to.
From 2 weeks ago: Trump Has Quietly Cut Legal Aid for Migrant Kids Separated from Parents https://t.co/Ty9hSAAM5h via @vice
— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) June 18, 2018
Prick.
re: #57 jaunte
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Prick.
And you know these families aren’t going to be afford attorneys. If our firm was closer to the border, I’d be encouraging my boss to do this pro bono. Man this is just sick.
re: #41 The Vicious Babushka
This is utterly insane. For God’s sake…I teach history at the high school level and lynchings have happened to every ethnic group in America. Christ…go see what happened to Chinese immigrants in California and Arizona!
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) June 19, 2018
Trump is a monster. And I hope his grandchildren grow up knowing that he is and that their grandfather ruined thousands of lives simply to appease a racist cult that he created.
re: #41 The Vicious Babushka
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The thread was legit nuts.
Who the fuck decided to make this about cultural pain appropriation??
re: #60 HappyWarrior
Trump is a monster. And I hope his grandchildren grow up knowing that he is and that their grandfather ruined thousands of lives simply to appease a racist cult that he created.
I hope they have to change their names, just so people don’t associate them with DJT.
re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹
Hey have any of these Pulpit Pimps chimed in yet?
Nope.
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They only care about kids BEFORE they are born.
Sessions says this is not like Nazi Germany “because in Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country!” pic.twitter.com/v2BiWN8aXj
— Brian Tashman (@briantashman) June 19, 2018
Oh God. Oh my merciful Lord. https://t.co/fBnz2PCxXQ
— ana marie cox (@anamariecox) June 19, 2018
re: #62 wheat-dogg
I hope they have to change their names, just so people don’t associate them with DJT.
TBH I hope they become really good people and I don’t give up complete hope they won’t because I’ve seen Nicholas Frank- son of Hans Frank, Nazi Governor of Poland and Amon Goeth’s daughter Monika.
re: #64 jaunte
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re: #60 HappyWarrior
I don’t think it’s just to appease his sick fuck base. I think he genuinely enjoys being cruel. It’s part of the reason he has such admiration for other dictators.
The Nazis started deporting Jews from annexed territories in 1939.
re: #67 plansbandc
I don’t think it’s just to appease his sick fuck base. I think he genuinely enjoys being cruel. It’s part of the reason he has such admiration for other dictators.
I think you’re right unfortunately. Some Trump toadie called me stupid when I said I think Trump envies their absolute power. Totally ignored Trump’s history first as a candidate and now as a President ot kissing the ass of tyrants.
re: #60 HappyWarrior
Trump is a monster. And I hope his grandchildren grow up knowing that he is and that their grandfather ruined thousands of lives simply to appease a racist cult that he created.
As per usual, I think Charles P. Pierce said it well:
The government* of the United States—the thuggish, dishonest and unfathomably cruel administration* that we elected to run the country—has chosen the history of which it will be a part. It is the history of the auction block, of the state-sponsored kidnapper, of the God-alibi-ed prison, of the rattling cattle cars, headed east. That is the history of which the government, and all the people in it, have chosen to be a part. This includes the people who dreamed up this policy, the people who are enforcing this policy, and anyone who isn’t doing anything to stop it. They will be the defendants in the future proceedings, the villains in the future novels, and the monsters in a thousand future nightmares. We choose the history of which we are a part.
Choose.
Boarders. Shreddin’, brah! pic.twitter.com/756UztErN0
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) June 19, 2018
This 3-tweet thread encapsulates so much:
“Concentration camp” used to be a euphemism: for Spanish prison towns in colonial Cuba, British prison camps in South Africa, and American prison camps in the occupied Philippines. Then in the 1940s the Germans tried to use it to hide what were more accurately called death camps.
— Jonathan M. Katz 🐱 (@KatzOnEarth) June 19, 2018
People who’d once been okay with forcing civilians into prison camps and cages, and breaking up families, because they’d told themselves they were just being “concentrated” in certain areas realized that doing so was, in fact, terrible and should never happen again.
— Jonathan M. Katz 🐱 (@KatzOnEarth) June 19, 2018
re: #68 jaunte
The Nazis started deporting Jews from annexed territories in 1939.
It was part of the Aryanization of Germany and the lebensraum. Empty the territories so that good Aryans could move in.
Sessions probably would approve of it.
Sessions says this is not like Nazi Germany “because in Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country!” pic.twitter.com/v2BiWN8aXj
— Brian Tashman (@briantashman) June 19, 2018
First rule of politics: If you’re explaining, you’re losing.
Second rule of politics: If you’re explaining why your policies are “not like Nazi Germany,” it’s time to reevaluate the entire course of your life to identify when you became a soulless ghoul. https://t.co/qbAQPTdxck— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) June 19, 2018
re: #74 wheat-dogg
It was part of the Aryanization of Germany and the lebensraum. Empty the territories so that good Aryans could move in.
Sessions probably would approve of it.
Yep.
you don’t get an immigration bill because you literally had state agents place a gun to children’s heads, tear them from their parents, and toss them in cages - you get a huge fuck you and the carnage of your policy plastered above the fold with your name tied to it until it ends
— Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 19, 2018
re: #37 Winston_Smith
The term “Christian” no longer has any meaning here. If anything it’s become a slur describing greedy self righteous pricks who only believe in themselves.
No meaning? Then what, please tell me, should I call this desire in my heart to do what is right by the teachings of Jesus and to bring to life heaven here on earth? I’m not worried about what Graham & the rest of the Pulpit pimps do or say, I’m merely curious what I should consider myself then.
“Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers.”
“I’m calling for a total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.”
“These are animals.”
Donald Trump demonized immigrants for 3 years so when he started locking children in cages his followers wouldn’t care.
Hitler did this too.— Ryan Knight 🌊 (@ProudResister) June 19, 2018
re: #79 William Lewis
No meaning? Then what, please tell me, should I call this desire in my heart to do what is right by the teachings of Jesus and to bring to life heaven here on earth? I’m not worried about what Graham & the rest of the Pulpit pimps do or say, I’m merely curious what I should consider myself then.
Follower of Jesus.
he actually typed this and posted it in public. I’m sorry, but this story is bringing out a special brand of stupid on the Right. pic.twitter.com/WynNF52o7m
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) June 19, 2018
re: #82 jaunte
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re: #81 Winston_Smith
Follower of Jesus.
Ok.
So I should also stop calling myself an American because of the Trump Regime and the Grand Old Fascist Party despite the 16 years I spent wearing woodland camouflage and taking the President’s dollar?
Grey Wolf
DNA test solves mystery of wolf-like creature shot in Montana https://t.co/vdwUjKkzfy pic.twitter.com/C1OS2zImr4
— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 19, 2018
re: #60 HappyWarrior
Trump is a monster. And I hope his grandchildren grow up knowing that he is and that their grandfather ruined thousands of lives simply to appease a racist cult that he created.
No sir. He didn’t create it. FOX created it. And him.
This cult exists because of far right media sources. They may have brought out America’s underlying racism, but nothing gets this bad without the pure evil that is FOX News.
re: #85 William Lewis
I don’t think the right has debased the term American as badly as they have Christian, but I wouldn’t be calling myself a patriot these days. They’ve stolen that too.
re: #87 Renaissance_Man
You can’t mention Fox without also mentioning the evil family that owns it.
re: #46 teleskiguy
LOL, pure projection from the actual pioneer of the manufactured faux outrage.
re: #87 Renaissance_Man
No sir. He didn’t create it. FOX created it. And him.
This cult exists because of far right media sources. They may have brought out America’s underlying racism, but nothing gets this bad without the pure evil that is FOX News.
True enough thanks.
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— Almaqah (@_Almaqah) June 19, 2018
re: #89 Winston_Smith
You can’t mention Fox without also mentioning the evil family that owns it.
Murdoch gah and then Ailes. They’re only getting more racist.
re: #4 I Would Prefer Not To
I’m taking a break from this.
ALL trumps are cunts.
Trunts, I call them.
re: #94 HappyWarrior
Ailes, thankfully, is dead.
re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Uh bailed on their kids? They’re reporters you dumbshit. No one accuses you of bailing on yours when you write right wing propaganda. I do feel sorry for your kids though Sean. I’d hate to have a feckless Trump toady like you for a father.
I dare any of the polling companies to run a poll in the US asking “Should a business be allowed to refuse service to any group of people the business should so choose?”
I wonder how big of an affirmative result would be.
re: #96 teleskiguy
Ailes, thankfully, is dead.
And not missed. FNC would be even worse if he was still here.
re: #98 freetoken
I dare any of the polling companies to run a poll in the US asking “Should a business be allowed to refuse service to any group of people the business should so choose?”
I wonder how big of an affirmative result would be.
A lot of people think that’s “freedom.” Gah
Convoy believed to be that of Kim Jong Un seen in Beijing after China announces two-day visit by the North Korean leader. https://t.co/rJM0DPnros pic.twitter.com/JKKV7hif9o
— ABC News (@ABC) June 19, 2018
WATCH: Laura Ingraham describes child detention centers as “essentially summer camps” https://t.co/3nr4dITV3L pic.twitter.com/z10ONcRpMR
— The Hill (@thehill) June 19, 2018
There’s a special place in…
…the Trump administration for someone who says things like this. https://t.co/cymrA9muwp— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) June 19, 2018
Too late John. You’re going to be known as Prisoner 4799425 soon.
Report: John Kelly no longer cares if Trump gets impeached https://t.co/6cJIBXve0H
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) June 19, 2018
They are trying to deter people from coming here by convincing them what awaits them here is worse than what they are fleeing from.
re: #102 Single-handed sailor
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Yeah summer camps have cages and not knowing if you’ll ever see your parents again. FFS I know she’s a right wing bitch but she’s also a parent. Special place for people like her who claim to be righteous while supporting this crap.
re: #103 MsJ
Too late John. You’re going to be known as Prisoner 4799425 soon.
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Funny, I no longer care if John Kelly spends the rest of his days in misery.
re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg
They are trying to deter people from coming here by convincing them what awaits them here is worse than what they are fleeing from.
That’s the self deporting Romney talked about six years ago and Mitt still claims to be to Trump’s right on immigration which I don’t want to know about.
re: #103 MsJ
Not that he matters, but he’s gone by Friday.
re: #105 HappyWarrior
A parent of a daughter from Guatemala.
re: #110 HappyWarrior
Yep. Adopted her ten (?) years ago. I think of Ingraham as Mommy Dearest.
re: #111 Ace Rothstein
Yep. Adopted her ten (?) years ago. I think of Ingraham as Mommy Dearest.
That kid probably has some horror stories.
re: #106 HappyWarrior
Funny, I no longer care if John Kelly spends the rest of his days in misery.
I hope he does. And is shunned from polite society. Forever.
WATCH: Laura Ingraham describes child detention centers as “essentially summer camps” https://t.co/3nr4dITV3L pic.twitter.com/z10ONcRpMR
— The Hill (@thehill) June 19, 2018
Huh. I went to camp a bunch of summers. All the fences, if any were to keep creeps out not me in. Oh and sunlight, games, three meals a day. https://t.co/2TaOkpDmkb
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) June 19, 2018
re: #105 HappyWarrior
Yeah summer camps have cages and not knowing if you’ll ever see your parents again. FFS I know she’s a right wing bitch but she’s also a parent. Special place for people like her who claim to be righteous while supporting this crap.
Facebook post I saw: “Democrats support abortion for 50 years and now they care about ripping children from their mothers’ arms?” As though abortion gives them an excuse to be cruel to children.
2 Sessions: “Your actions are directed against a group which is nationally, ethnically or religiously defineable, which makes your move very iffy wrt. the actions listed under CPPCG II (e), DUFUS!”
— Teo (@Teukka72) June 19, 2018
re: #115 Big Beautiful Door
Facebook post I saw: “Democrats support abortion for 50 years and now they care about ripping children from their mothers’ arms?” As though abortion gives them an excuse to be cruel to children.
Abortion is also a fucking choice. No Democrat supports forced abortions. Trump’s new friends Kim and Xi are fans tho.
re: #112 HappyWarrior
Don’t forget that Mommy Dearest also adopted two boys from Russia, too.
re: #113 MsJ
I hope he does. And is shunned from polite society. Forever.
I disagreed when a friend said that they felt no pity for him losing his son. Maybe I’m getting hard hearted but I’m finding myself closer to that sentiment than I was before.
re: #118 Ace Rothstein
Don’t forget that Mommy Dearest also adopted two boys from Russia, too.
Didn’t know that.
re: #120 HappyWarrior
I can’t even imagine how fucked up that family is.
re: #114 Unshaken Defiance
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Oh I remember the summer camp game of “Where are my parents.” It’s like capture the flag except it’s hsving no idea if you’ll ever see your parents again!
re: #121 Ace Rothstein
I can’t even imagine how fucked up that family is.
I hope when they grow up, they move far away and Laura is miserable.
re: #103 MsJ
Too late John. You’re going to be known as Prisoner 4799425 soon.
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Exactly - and he still supports all that trump does - trying to pretend otherwise. Lots of Hitler supporters did the same.
We CAN’T without the same Ph.Ds or at least MSs and MAs that Trump wants to requre to enter *this* country!
Though he may admittedly actually have those, which I don’t. And then you need a guaranteed position of employment for a year, or a millionaire sponsor, or both, on top.— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) June 19, 2018
re: #123 HappyWarrior
I hope they all become atheist.
Summer camp probably would feel different if you weren’t allowed to leave.
re: #126 Ace Rothstein
I hope they all become atheist.
Becoming liberals would be even better. One of them marrying David Hogg or Emma Gonzales even better but especially Dave.
I hope they get some hidden cameras into those centers soon. I want to know what is really going on
re: #127 jaunte
Summer camp probably would feel different if you weren’t allowed to leave.
It reminds me of those who compared water boarding to frat hijinks which suck imo but holy shit.
This image (by @alexwongcw) is really something. If only for a moment, @SecNielsen seems as disgusted with herself as the rest of us are with her. What a sad and shameful performance, one that will define the rest of her career. pic.twitter.com/CDmqKkG3zu
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) June 19, 2018
The best reason to read history is so that you have more analogies to offer than Hitler, Hitler, Hitler all the damn time
— David Frum (@davidfrum) March 5, 2014
This tweet has aged well. *cough* https://t.co/GloFp4jjfY
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) June 19, 2018
re: #96 teleskiguy
Ailes, thankfully, is dead.
Yep, and the stake through his heart will keep him that way.
re: #131 Ace Rothstein
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And she’s probably not disgusted with herself. She’s disgusted with all those reporters for daring to question her.
She had to go back to her office and fillet a 4-year-old to feel better about her day.
#NowPlaying Carnivore > Retaliation > Five Billion Dead https://t.co/5V3CTd9NJj
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) June 4, 2018
Imagine being so powerful you could make one phone call and (BAM!) you’ve reunited thousands of scared, confused little kids with mommies and daddies who miss them.
Now imagine how sick and broken and empty you’d have to be inside to choose not to make that call.— Jason Kander (@JasonKander) June 19, 2018
The audio of those kids crying shook me to the core. It’s been one thing to see the photos but actually hearing the vulnerability of those kids. I’ve seen my little niece get upset when my brother leaves for work or when he’s left for an extended time period but this? I really felt I was hearing the same pain children in the Nazi ghettos and camps felt. I wanted to give them kindness, and love that they’ve lacked since being separated. I can’t stop looking at those kids and not seeing my own niece who looks like many of them.
Who wore it better? pic.twitter.com/qYCfZcXNZc
— Aaron Craig 🔰 (@ACraig2031) June 18, 2018
Did you know that there are crimes for which the “I was just following orders” defence can’t be invoked? For which there is no immunity in international justice?
— Teo (@Teukka72) June 19, 2018
Guys thank you. Thank you for being kindness in age of despair.
re: #141 HappyWarrior
It’s all we have left in this time of darkness.
I swear, if John Demjanjuk were still alive, Trump would be demanding he be brought back to the US, where he’d then pardon him and restore his citizenship.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) June 19, 2018
re: #142 Ace Rothstein
It’s all we have left in this time of darkness.
I know. I cherish every moment I get with my niece especially. I want her generation to be better than mine.
re: #143 Chrysicat
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Trump would cry that Israel was being “unfair” to “Ricardo Clement” who is a great, great guy who a lot of people are talking about.
re: #125 Chrysicat
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Momma is a Russia Troll. Blocked and Reported. And as usual, Twitter will do nothing…
You know, there was a reason that Huckabee Sanders didn’t do today’s presser that got pushed back by several hours.
When your horrible actions offend a horrendous, lying cunt like her, it’s really, really bad.
re: #134 scottslemmons
And she’s probably not disgusted with herself. She’s disgusted with all those reporters for daring to question her.
She had to go back to her office and fillet a 4-year-old to feel better about her day.
This.
Typical of what one finds this day, a Trumper being all “Christian”:
I’m sorry but illegal immigrants are not “refugees”, if they were they would not be breaking the law. Legally there is a difference.@
— Laura P Blakely (@LPBlakelyAR) June 19, 2018
re: #147 MsJ
You know, there was a reason that Huckabee Sanders didn’t do today’s presser that got pushed back by several hours.
When your horrible actions offend a horrendous, lying cunt like her, it’s really, really bad.
Hate to be morbid but nothing suggests to me she’s actually bothered by this. After all they planned to separate families early on. I think it’s more akin to the Nazis who couldn’t pull a trigger but had to rely on gas.
re: #149 freetoken
Typical of what one finds this day, a Trumper being all “Christian”:
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Many in fact are applying for refugee status and illegal immigration remains a civil matter not criminal. Sick of these ignorant liars.
re: #149 freetoken
Typical of what one finds this day, a Trumper being all “Christian”:
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And Laura P is yet another Russian Troll reported and blocked…
There is no cognitive dissonance in America quite like a Southern Baptist cognitive dissonance.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) June 19, 2018
re: #153 freetoken
Guys, it’s just kids in cages.
It’s not like someone baked a gay cake. pic.twitter.com/yvXfGpjEta— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) June 19, 2018
re: #151 HappyWarrior
Many in fact are applying for refugee status and illegal immigration remains a civil matter not criminal. Sick of these ignorant liars.
The CBP is slow-walking asylum seekers. Here’s a story from less than 2 weeks ago about Cuban refugees waiting on the Hidalgo Bridge, which is one of the ports of entry that can be used by asylum seekers.
What’s happening is people are having to wait days and days with their children, they get tired and they go to other ports of entry. That’s when they get arrested and separated from their children.
This administration can’t die fast enough.
re: #155 mmmirele
The CBP is slow-walking asylum seekers. Here’s a story from less than 2 weeks ago about Cuban refugees waiting on the Hidalgo Bridge, which is one of the ports of entry that can be used by asylum seekers.
What’s happening is people are having to wait days and days with their children, they get tired and they go to other ports of entry. That’s when they get arrested and separated from their children.
This administration can’t die fast enough.
We need to change how we do immigration completely.
re: #149 freetoken
Typical of what one finds this day, a Trumper being all “Christian”:
And again, seeking asylum is not unlawful. For those concerned that someone might “sneak in” through the asylum process, that’s why we have courts to sort that out.
My spineless Senator Ben Sasse with his concern trolling this morning on Twitter about this being immoral still does nothing. His office did not respond to my E-mail asking him to sign on to Senator Feinstein’s bill S.3130, even to say “no I won’t do that.”
I did not believe there was a never-Trumper when they started announcing, and I do not believe it now. Sasse could be the hero of this piece to Democrats in his state and the legislature.
Like every other conservative since Goldwater, he is self first, party second, country last.
And Sasse was a history major in college. He knows where kidnapping children, such as Argentina, Chile, Germany, Cambodia, and other nations leads.
He is like every other conservative. His position exists to gain and maintain power, nothing more.
By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I’m with you.
— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017
re: #151 HappyWarrior
Kidnapped pic.twitter.com/fYSLSg6PkL
re: #161 Unshaken Defiance
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I just wish I could actively do something. We’re not near the border unfortunately.
re: #157 HappyWarrior
Or arranging flowers for a same sex couple.//
And you know these same conservatives are itching to use their “religious freedom” to return to Jim Crow (aside from discriminating against anyone who is not the proper Christian).
re: #163 Anymouse 🌹
And you know these same conservatives are itching to use their “religious freedom” to return to Jim Crow (aside from discriminating against anyone who is not the proper Christian).
Of course they are.
re: #159 Anymouse 🌹
They don’t want us to remember about asylum. The whole point is that anyone, ANYONE who shows up at our southern border is an “illegal immigrant” and will be dealt with accordingly.
The is Steve Miller getting his Nazi freak going while the rest of the GOP quietly cheers him on.
re: #161 Unshaken Defiance
Civil disobedience is in order here (which is one reason why the Texas GOP put that in their platform as undesirable).
The pediatrician in Washington state who called state child services and noted it was her duty to report child abuse, thus she was reporting the maladministration, might be worthwhile to happen.
Teachers, doctors, nurses, everyone with a duty to report in every state calling and swamping states until they take a stand.
I am applying to jobs specifically involving immigration and I’m going to enroll in Babbel this summer to improve my Spanish though I should note a lot of these children don’t speak Spanish necessarily either.
re: #151 HappyWarrior
Many in fact are applying for refugee status and illegal immigration remains a civil matter not criminal. Sick of these ignorant liars.
In fact it being a civil instead of criminal matter is crucial to the administration’s response and something they would never willingly change. If immigration courts were criminal courts then immigrants subject to deportation hearings would have a Sixth Amendment right to counsel, and paying for every asylum seeker to have a lawyer representing them at their hearing would get incredibly expensive. The entire budgetary plausibility of our immigration system depends on us treating simple status violations as low grade civil infractions.
So when Trump supporters say undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers are the same as any other accused criminal breaking the law who don’t get to take their children with them to jail, they’re making an incredibly mendacious false comparison.
re: #162 HappyWarrior
I just wish I could actively do something. We’re not near the border unfortunately.
Donate money to groups that are. That’s what I’m doing. As an immigrant myself I CANNOT stand by and let this shit happen. I’m in this fight no matter what.
.@TuckerCarlson comes close to saying the 14 words: “No matter what they tell you, this isn’t about helping children. A lot of people yelling at you on TV don’t even have kids, so don’t for a second let them take moral high ground. Their goal is to change your country forever.” pic.twitter.com/GPpUbqtiVL
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 19, 2018
Cannot stress this enough: Tucker Carlson is the face of modern white nationalism on cable news. pic.twitter.com/hJqZRW6xpk
— Carlos Maza (@gaywonk) August 16, 2017
re: #162 HappyWarrior
I just wish I could actively do something. We’re not near the border unfortunately.
Hillary sent out an appeal to support groups fighting this obscenity via Act Blue. I put $25 in the till for them.
re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg
They don’t want us to remember about asylum. The whole point is that anyone, ANYONE who shows up at our southern border is an “illegal immigrant” and will be dealt with accordingly.
The is Steve Miller getting his Nazi freak going while the rest of the GOP quietly cheers him on.
Steve Miller’s whole pathetic story is he thinks himself a rebel not just from the culture he grew up in but his own family. There’s nothing edgy about being a fascist wanker Stephen.
re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg
Donate money to groups that are. That’s what I’m doing. As an immigrant myself I CANNOT stand by and let this shit happen. I’m in this fight no matter what.
Good idea.
re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg
They don’t want us to remember about asylum. The whole point is that anyone, ANYONE who shows up at our southern border is an “illegal immigrant” and will be dealt with accordingly.
The is Steve Miller getting his Nazi freak going while the rest of the GOP quietly cheers him on.
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re: #162 HappyWarrior
I just wish I could actively do something. We’re not near the border unfortunately.
Read this whole brilliant thread:
One person can not organize civil protests at all of these immigration detention centers pic.twitter.com/ugjQq8FZ8Z
— ALT- Immigration 🛂 (@ALT_uscis) June 13, 2018
One last correction: I definitely did not come up with the idea of bringing diapers, baby formula, children books and toys to throw over immigration detention fences.
— ALT- Immigration 🛂 (@ALT_uscis) June 13, 2018
Forgot the link to all icetapo detention centers. This just proves no one can pull it off. https://t.co/mqepcDzQR6
— ALT- Immigration 🛂 (@ALT_uscis) June 13, 2018
re: #171 teleskiguy
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Carlson honestly in many ways is worse than Hannity. Hear me out, Hannity just aupports everything Trump does while Carlson full out loves the racism of it all.
For the life of me, I cannot fathom why it took so long for people to catch on that Theranos was a scam.
Former Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes is likely facing significant prison time, legal experts say https://t.co/Prz7sf2fdZ pic.twitter.com/u0HhkX3jH1
— Bloomberg (@business) June 19, 2018
re: #87 Renaissance_Man
No sir. He didn’t create it. FOX created it. And him.
This cult exists because of far right media sources. They may have brought out America’s underlying racism, but nothing gets this bad without the pure evil that is FOX News.
People keep referring to Hair Furor as a businessman but what they are ignoring is what kind of businessman. He’s a salesman that sells himself, which is best described as convincing people to buy something that has his name attached to it. In ignoring the fact that he’s always been a salesman, something that most people in our country abhor dealing with, they also ignore what a crooked salesman he has been and what shitty products he offers. Four bankruptcies and thousands of lawsuits add up to a rich asshole who has used his inheritance to screw others out of their money.
Using outlets like Fox, the Republican party built themselves a base of voters who would rather vote for conservative child molesters and white supremacists than a Democrat. A base that believes they are in a existential crisis and that liberals are trying to destroy Christianity and the American way of life. Conservative voters have been responding to dog whistles for so long that they have been conditioned to drool when they think they hear one. Unfortunately their handlers, the Republican party, have never really been able to deliver the goods for them so they have been awaiting their own savior.
Enter Cheeto Jesus, a con man posing as a salesman out to bilk others out of their money. In his bully mind he sees an opportunity to hijack a political party and bend it to his will, all the while making bank. His followers will not back off, he can do no wrong and they have bought into him lock, stock and barrel. The salesman found his audience and has sold the suckers his ‘product’.
On Fox.
Regarding the separation of families by our government; Fuck Trump. Fuck the Republican party. Fuck the people who voted for Trump.
This needs to be hung around their necks for the rest of their lives. Our nation should be ashamed of itself and that we have stooped so low.
I know that I sure as Hell am, so are my wife and our adult kids. We have all written (and I have called) our Senator and Rep (DeFazio/Wyden) to let them know that this is unacceptable and shameful.
Raise Hell.
re: #155 mmmirele
Which is a violation of their rights and our laws:
Article 31 of the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees STILL prohibits you from prosecuting assylum seekers who cross illegally and present themselves to border agents.
The US has abided by and championed this law for 60 years. You are wrong. Plain and simple. pic.twitter.com/Gr7w8NeKNt— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) June 17, 2018
Off-topic: Did someone put a thunderstorm generator in Denver? Denver has been throwing thunderstorms at us for hours (I’m surprised my Internet service hasn’t gone out with the house shaking so much).
Quit it Colorado. We’ll be good up here, we promise.
Humanity. pic.twitter.com/QS5nQ4WZaU
— Buzz Aldrin (@TheRealBuzz) June 19, 2018
Buzz Aldrin fired his “handler of his Twitter account” today. Now he’s all woke and shit. https://t.co/QOqj8NH3JB
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) June 19, 2018
Yeah, he announced on Twitter, of all places.
Hey Twittersphere, pls RT @buzzs_xtina was terminated and does NOT represent Buzz Aldrin in ANY capacity. Her days of using Buzz’s voice & brand to self-promote/ promote her clients i.e. @AstroTerry are over. [Hope she changes her twitter handle soon as that’s just embarrassing!]
— Buzz Aldrin (@TheRealBuzz) June 19, 2018
And he apparently is taking a liking to it.
I had no idea how much fun it is to read all the comments to my tweets! THX to all who had something to share!!! Positive, negative, or wacko — it’s all engagement! It’s not to late at 88 to learn this stuff even if I missed the boat for Klout
— Buzz Aldrin (@TheRealBuzz) June 19, 2018
No more “ICE puts YOU in the cooler” jokes. This has ceased to be funny.
The “taken away for bathing” subterfuge was the last straw. I think they know about the shower heads at Auschwitz, it is just their idea of an inside joke.
With polls on child detention running the way they are, barely above 50% even among the debased base, I would expect to see Stephen Miller’s head come bouncing out of the White House any minute. It will be too little too late. They must NEVER be allowed to live this down.
re: #176 Interesting Times
There is one thing we can all do together by the millions. VOTE THESE RACIST MOTHERFUCKERS IN CONGRESS OUT IN NOVEMBER.
— This place is infested with Nazis. (@efuseakay) June 19, 2018
re: #167 HappyWarrior
I am applying to jobs specifically involving immigration and I’m going to enroll in Babbel this summer to improve my Spanish though I should note a lot of these children don’t speak Spanish necessarily either.
Most of the kids are from El Salvador and Guatemala, who speak Spanish.
re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg
Donate money to groups that are. That’s what I’m doing. As an immigrant myself I CANNOT stand by and let this shit happen. I’m in this fight no matter what.
I’m doing some donating, but I’m also sending postcards to Republican house and senate members. It only has to be a sentence or two, and a postcard + stamp is about a half dollar. You can get contact info at VoteSmart.
Flooding them with postcards is more effective than email or voice messages. It’s a physical item that a staffer has to deal with.
We’re coming to the breaking point.
Great Grandpa Bacon was a member of the IWW. Still remember when Grandma let me look at his Little Red Song Book with the syndicalist strategy of One General Strike to shut the country down to give workers a decent share of the fruits of their labor.
But the majority of Americans continue in complacency. They’ve been so indoctrinated by Ayn Rand that they only look out for #1.
Since we won’t do anything the rest of the world outside of Russia and China have had enough of Trump and they’re going to retaliate.
I fully expect economic sanctions to come into play, dumping the dollar, American stocks and Treasury notes. Putting a big squeeze will hit the Republicans in the pocketbook and the economy will nosedive.
Imagine all the Toyota, Nissan, VW and BMW plants in the US closing down just for starters. Apple being unable to get the raw materials for the next iPhone. Mexico and Canada refusing to trade. China putting the squeeze on Treasury notes.
Maybe that will give a collective kick in the pants to trigger a General Strike…
Also, for how #10 is done, see https://t.co/L7o49tcIEC
— Teo (@Teukka72) June 19, 2018
re: #188 stpaulbear
I wonder how much it would be to custom make some postcards with that picture of the crying child on them.
re: #87 Renaissance_Man
No sir. He didn’t create it. FOX created it. And him.
This cult exists because of far right media sources. They may have brought out America’s underlying racism, but nothing gets this bad without the pure evil that is FOX News.
Nope. Goldwater started it by inviting in the John Birch Society and the Ku Klux Klan, Nixon expanded on it by pulling in disaffected Wallace voters, Reagan threw out mighty dog whistles by opening his campaign on the site of slain civil rights workers and laying a wreath at the tomb of SS soldiers in West Germany along with ending the Fairness Doctrine and inviting powerful church leaders into his coalition.
The transformation of the GOP into the Fascist Party has been going on as long as I’ve been alive. FOX as State Media is just a natural outgrowth of Ailes working for Nixon and Reagan’s permission to start a propaganda network. All authoritarians need a propaganda outlet.
FOX and Trump are the end results, not the beginning.
FYI here’s the link to locate ICE detention facilities ice.gov
Check nearby detention facilities first.
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it would be to custom make some postcards with that picture of the crying child on them.
You can check with your local Kinko’s or FedEx outlet.
What if an ICE agent felt emotionally removed from tiny children. But, oh, here are, an even 7,000. Being isolated and contained based upon policy, not law. And then this blonde Arian bitch, who I understand holds an important position in our nation’s government. #whovotedforher
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it would be to custom make some postcards with that picture of the crying child on them.
You can get light postcard stock that is perforated 8.5x11 sheets at WalMart, and print on them from your own home printer. Send a different one every day. Cheap.
Holy crap! A lightning bolt just struck less than three hundred yards away. My heart is still stuck to the ceiling. BRB while I go peel it off.
Sunday was Father’s Day. Monday my second granddaughter was born. I should be ecstatically happy. Instead, I feel sick to my stomach — near tears — thinking of the parents and their kids ripped apart by this administration’s evil policies.
The last time I felt this bad was Election night 2016.
re: #187 VegasGolfer
Most of the kids are from El Salvador and Guatemala, who speak Spanish.
A lot of little kids (pre-school age) in Central American countries don’t speak Spanish. They speak Indian languages and learn Spanish when they go to school.
Also, tomorrow is my birthday and I’m promoting this charity, the Florence Project, as a worthy source of donations on the otherwise evil Facebook. It’s one of the charities in the ActBlue bundle but I pulled it out because Florence is the nearest detention center to me, and, in fact, there are three detention centers in Florence. The Florence Project provides legal assistance to detained persons in Florence and Eloy.
If you have a few bucks, throw them their way; they can use the money.
Thanks.
re: #197 Anymouse 🌹
Holy crap! A lightning bolt just struck less than three hundred yards away. My heart is still stuck to the ceiling. BRB while I go peel it off.
Closest I’ve been is 10-20 m (a coupla yards more in yards). Was indoors. One of two times in my life I’ve been glomped by a female. She was just 4” shorter than me (I’m 6’2” (188cm)).
re: #198 wheat-dogg
Concentration camps for kids. Never been more ashamed to be an American. We as a society have lost our way. We do not deserve forgiveness, we deserve judgment.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) June 18, 2018
re: #198 wheat-dogg
Sunday was Father’s Day. Monday my second granddaughter was born. I should be ecstatically happy. Instead, I feel sick to my stomach — near tears — thinking of the parents and their kids ripped apart by this administration’s evil policies.
The last time I felt this bad was Election night 2016.
At this point I’m happy I have no grandchildren. While I hope for the best (especially in regards to the upcoming election), I realise there is no bottom to conservative depravity. (It has been proved over and over again in countless nations over history.)
re: #200 Teukka
Closest I’ve been is 10-20 m (a coupla yards more in yards). Was indoors. One of two times in my life I’ve been glomped by a female. She was just 4” shorter than me (I’m 6’2” (188cm)).
The closest I’ve been was when we lived in Oklahoma. If we’re going to use that pesky socialist metric system, a lightning bolt struck a tree in our front yard about 5m from our house and split it in two. (One half went down across the neighbour’s yard and the other half landed in the street.)
re: #202 Anymouse 🌹
At this point I’m happy I have no grandchildren. While I hope for the best (especially in regards to the upcoming election), I realise there is no bottom to conservative depravity. (It has been proved over and over again in countless nations over history.
When Trump won the election, my heart was down around my ankles. I knew what his election meant, and every day that passes only confirms my worst fears. Just when I thought they could go no lower, this administration goes lower.
And another one just struck. The whole house shook for fifteen seconds.
4 years ago tonight I was on @allinwithchris … that was before I got blackballed for criticizing @msnbc for socializing @realDonaldTrump with limitless airtime and minimal pushback on his incessant lies in 2015-2016 when he was a candidate. pic.twitter.com/DTDS4gzv6i
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) June 19, 2018
re: #203 Anymouse 🌹
The closest I’ve been was when we lived in Oklahoma. If we’re going to use that pesky socialist metric system, a lightning bolt struck a tree in our front yard about 5m from our house and split it in two. (One half went down across the neighbour’s yard and the other half landed in the street.)
*ass puckers*
The area between Denver, Sterling, and Sidney has already had 6-8 inches of rain out of this storm system. Whoa.
re: #197 Anymouse 🌹
Holy crap! A lightning bolt just struck less than three hundred yards away. My heart is still stuck to the ceiling. BRB while I go peel it off.
About 2004, while at my PC, lightning struck a tree just outside my window, about 25 feet away. Split the tree. Killed my PC —I thot, for 6mo. Eventually I learned it was only the modem that was zapped, but THAT was preventing even the diagnostic beep codes when trying (but failing) to boot. Had DSL at the time.
re: #205 Anymouse 🌹
Noticed earlier today a massive cluster of storms moving north of Omaha, and now the same. That part of Nebraska, and also parts of Iowa, are getting drenched. Not as bad as Wisconsin the previous day, though.
I think I’ve still heard the need for rain from gardeners. The extreme heat makes things a bit more volatile.
And, good night
“Dog level 5000: Achieved” <- we’re like “Well that’s not very nic….ohhh.” pic.twitter.com/UCJyXcNvi7
— Fluff Society (@FluffSociety) June 19, 2018
Jeff Sessions Argues Family Separations Only Happening Because Current Law Doesn’t Allow Him To Strangle Immigrants With Bare Hands https://t.co/dJLWRztH5q pic.twitter.com/SpD4WmTQEq
— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 18, 2018
re: #197 Anymouse 🌹
Holy crap! A lightning bolt just struck less than three hundred yards away. My heart is still stuck to the ceiling. BRB while I go peel it off.
You have a lightning rod on Mouse Manor?
Gosh, I keep thinking of fire fighting water hoses and German Shepard dogs.
re: #208 Anymouse 🌹
I saw it forming at about 5 p.m. tonight, towering cumulus clouds taller than the 12 to 14 thousand foot mountains to the east, you couldn’t miss them.
re: #210 freetoken
Noticed earlier today a massive cluster of storms moving north of Omaha, and now the same. That part of Nebraska, and also parts of Iowa, are getting drenched. Not as bad as Wisconsin the previous day, though.
I just pulled up the Omaha radar. The area between Omaha and Lincoln, along with NW of Des Moines, is getting pounded pretty hard.
We just had another close-by lightning strike. One of these things hits our town and we’re toast here.
re: #214 Jay C
You have a lightning rod on Mouse Manor?
No, but the church across the street has a whole row of them (and is taller than my house). Not that I wish any harm to the church, but perhaps their lightning rods will draw away a bolt.
(I always thought it strange that the cross they have on top of the church has a lightning rod on it. I’d put something irreligious here, but I won’t.)
With the immigration policy drowning everything else out, its still important to note that Kansas has been permanently enjoined from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. Kris Kobach did such a bad job defending himself, the judge ordered him to take six hours of continuing legal education on civil procedure and evidence.
re: #218 Anymouse 🌹
No, but the church across the street has a whole row of them (and is taller than my house). Not that I wish any harm to the church, but perhaps their lightning rods will draw away a bolt.
(I always thought it strange that the cross they have on top of the church has a lightning rod on it. I’d put something irreligious here, but I won’t.)
I’ll suggest a copper profile of Jeff Sessions. Or Tweetler.
re: #221 teleskiguy
Go out there and point a golf club straight in the air. Test fate, my dude!
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It occurred to me that you probably don’t own any golf clubs. Use that scythe of yours!
Meh. Try standing in a bath tub, wearing a chain mail, hurling insults at the deities of lightning…
re: #221 teleskiguy
Go out there and point a golf club straight in the air. Test fate, my dude!
It occurred to me that you probably don’t own any golf clubs. Use that scythe of yours!
My wife points out we should put a 1-iron up on our house, because even God can’t hit a 1-iron.
re: #187 VegasGolfer
Most of the kids are from El Salvador and Guatemala, who speak Spanish.
I know but there are some children detained that have only spoken one of the tribal languages. Not most but some.
Years ago, when I was a kid, lightning struck the chimney on our house. Knocked off a few bricks. But, the worst part was the chimney went up the outside of the house just behind the bathroom. And, as luck would have it, my mom was using the facilities. Fortunately no injuries. Family joke/story for a long, long time.
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it would be to custom make some postcards with that picture of the crying child on them.
If you have a printer that can print photos, you could make them yourself for about 15 cents apiece.
Court rules that using long-range acoustic devices (sound weapons) to move protestors is a violation of the XIV Amendment.
re: #221 teleskiguy
Go out there and point a golf club straight in the air, test fate, my dude!
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“Rat farts!”
re: #221 teleskiguy
Go out there and point a golf club straight in the air. Test fate, my dude!
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It occurred to me that you probably don’t own any golf clubs. Use that scythe of yours!
Hold a one iron over your head. Not even God can hit a one iron. (Lee Trevino)
re: #229 TedStriker
One of my favorite lines in the film:
“I’d keep playing. I don’t think the heavy stuff is gonna come down for quite a while.”
re: #199 mmmirele
A lot of little kids (pre-school age) in Central American countries don’t speak Spanish. They speak Indian languages and learn Spanish when they go to school.
If they get to school. When I was in Guatemala, I was told that 60% of Guatemalans don’t speak Spanish. Still, it’s probably the best one for an outsider to know. There are many indigenous languages.
re: #67 plansbandc
I don’t think it’s just to appease his sick fuck base. I think he genuinely enjoys being cruel. It’s part of the reason he has such admiration for other dictators.
Oh, definitely this.
Congress is back in session tomorrow and @HouseJudiciary Republicans are holding a hearing on — I’m not kidding you — @HillaryClinton’s emails. We shouldn’t do anything else until we #KeepFamilesTogether.
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) June 19, 2018
I should probably go to the office and try to avoid thinking about children in cages by preparing my end of term grade reports.
re: #155 mmmirele
The CBP is slow-walking asylum seekers. Here’s a story from less than 2 weeks ago about Cuban refugees waiting on the Hidalgo Bridge, which is one of the ports of entry that can be used by asylum seekers.
What’s happening is people are having to wait days and days with their children, they get tired and they go to other ports of entry. That’s when they get arrested and separated from their children.
This administration can’t die fast enough.
CUBAN?!? Is the “Feet Dry” policy out the window, or did they just think that it would be less likely they were caught if they flew to Matamoros and then walked into the US?
Not to mention that one should lose Trump votes within his own party as they’ve seen Cubans as white since Castro rose if not before…
Today in history, Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo.
history.com
Because of course.
Melania Trump blames ‘both sides’ for child separations at border (The Guardian)
First lady effectively endorses Trump’s false claim that Democrats are responsible for ‘zero-tolerance’ policy (more)
We don’t want what is happening with immigration in Europe to happen with us!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2018
This is white nationalism, plain and simple. Not even coded. https://t.co/QKdDI0lanh
— Rashad Robinson (@rashadrobinson) June 18, 2018
What we need today are universal values based not on faith but on scientific findings, common experience and common sense.
— Dalai Lama (@DalaiLama) September 16, 2017
This is cool. A USGS Topographical map layer for Google Earth.
A banner ad for Central Michigan University appears on the neo-nazi/truther website Veterans Today, home of arch-troofer Kevin Barrett among others. I’m sure this is some kind of automated placement involving the word “veterans,” and CMU will not want any part of it.
I wrote to CMU to let them know. president@cmich.edu
America, Florida style:
Collier school board, parents debate evolution content in science textbooks
The article is confusingly written, but one thing is clear:
A new Florida law allows anyone, not just parents, to file formal objections to school textbooks if they see fit. That law brought in four people, including two scientists, who found issues with material in several books.
That Florida law of course was made to ratfuck public education.
Oh, and I wonder about those two “scientists” - bet they are from the usual den of creationists.
But the article doesn’t go into enough detail to sort it out.
So, I found the objections, for which the Collier County school board had to hold a hearing:
It’s the usual creationist derp, and some guy really, really ranting about climate change alleged bias at every school grade.
re: #248 freetoken
So, I found the objections, for which the Collier County school board had to hold a hearing:
It’s the usual creationist derp, and some guy really, really ranting about climate change alleged bias at every school grade.
Science books tend to be biased … toward science, not religion or politics.
Why do airplane tickets have to be so expensive!! Having separate continents is so stupid retweet if you miss pangaea
— blizzy (@BlairAlzuro) June 13, 2018
re: #249 Anymouse 🌹
Scary thing is, the textbooks (mostly standard stuff from publishers like Pearson) were approved by only 1 vote.
So the atavists were only 1 vote away from injecting their dogma into public schools.
re: #238 Anymouse 🌹
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The hilarious part? Comey & Lynch have already flipped Grassley the bird, while McCabe did so from behind the 5A. Chuck wanted to respond by subpoenaing them, but Feinstein shut that down, so all he’s been left with is growling to the press how “wrong” they are for not wanting to participate in the continuation of this cargo cult ritual.
re: #242 Anymouse 🌹
Because of course.
Melania Trump blames ‘both sides’ for child separations at border (The Guardian)
First lady effectively endorses Trump’s false claim that Democrats are responsible for ‘zero-tolerance’ policy (more)
This is why I will never view this woman as a victim. She is Donny’s willing accomplice, whether because she believes as he does or because he’s holding a leash labeled “pre-nup agreement.”
Of the four objectors in Collier County, two of them just happened to include the exact same supplemental material:
Flaugh:
Doyle:
Both include Birch Society inspired publications (i.e., Western Journal, from Liftable Media, which is owned by wingnut Floyd Brown and family), the exact same article (supposedly overturning evolution), one of the submissions showing that the article was distributed via a mail list “naplespatriots@comcast.net” .
The TV station (WINK) report on the Collier county meeting left out all that information.
Indeed, by interviewing only two people, one the creationist, the other the former educator fighting to keep religion out of the science classroom, the TV station was doing the “balanced” thing but not a realistic review of the situation.
Three of the four objectors were using standard creationist materials, and two of these objectors were apparently colluding.
The fourth objector (Mogil) mostly wanted to rant about climate-related topics, apparently wanting to snow the board with unnecessary factoids, and also to object to the lack of old white men in the photos in the textbooks.
It really is telling that in an election year when they’re already getting a lot of shit from voters for being Trump’s apologists, the GOP thinks the best strategy…is making excuses for his unpopular immigration policies while waving Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi around like they march to work in jackboots.
“There is a reason why some of those regimes will not do away with blasphemy laws, so handy are they in purging political opponents.” https://t.co/qpiWUFLgAL
— Rebekah Golden (@rebekahgolden) June 19, 2018
The terror of the Trump doctrine is not in its innovation but in its imitation. The last few months are a testament to the fact that history is not past, that the passage of time does not necessarily imply progress. The words Sessions quoted were used in the 1840s and 50s to justify slavery. When abolitionists argued that slavery was cruel, and that separating families was a violation of religious ethics, they were met with the argument of religious compliance with the law. John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, told the Washington Post: “Whenever Romans 13 was used in the 18th and 19th century - and Sessions seems to be doing the same thing, so in this sense there is some continuity - it’s a way of manipulating the scriptures to justify your own political agenda.”
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The invocation of piety is also familiarly threadbare when the behaviour of this holy sovereign, allegedly with God’s will vested in him, is taken into account. Trump is a man mired in allegations of infidelity committed across the course of his three marriages. His church attendance was summed up in his statement that he had “never asked God for forgiveness”, and he referred to communion as “my little wine” and “my little cracker”. Yet he received 80% of the white evangelical vote. Of his unlikely Christian support base, Amy Sullivan, in the New York Times, says: “Decades of fearmongering about Democrats and religious liberals have worked. 80% of white evangelicals would vote against Jesus Christ himself if he ran as a Democrat.”
This is the most sinister and most powerful element of the dictator’s playbook: the pact with the base. Every policy, every utterance, becomes about what it signifies to its target audience rather than what it objectively means. During the presidential campaign, when Trump said that “you just don’t see the expression Merry Christmas any more”, he wasn’t expressing, or even reflecting, an earnest concern about the erosion of Christian values. He was feeding a paranoia and nativist angst about race and identity. There is no Trump doctrine, but there is a Trump code, transmitted from the pulpits of the White House to his voters.
re: #256 Targetpractice
It really is telling that in an election year when they’re already getting a lot of shit from voters for being Trump’s apologists, the GOP thinks the best strategy…is making excuses for his unpopular immigration policies while waving Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi around like they march to work in jackboots.
Rep. Pelosi and Mrs. Clinton are something like Pavlov’s dogs to conservatives. Mention their names and the hand automatically reaches for the R lever in the voting booth.
Trump: BUILD THE WALL!
Trumpers: YAAAAAA
Trump: AND WHO IS GOING TO PAY?
Trumpers: MEXICO!
Trump: ACTUALLY I AM GOING TO MAKE YOU PAY FOR IT BY TAKING BABIES HOSTAGE AND THROWING THEM IN CAGES AND THEN YOU’LL GET PICTURES AND AUDIO LIKE A RANSOM NOTE!
Trumpers: YAAAAAAAAAAA!— m i t h (@ManInTheHoody) June 19, 2018
Total rainfall in the area between Denver and Sterling has now exceeded ten inches.
Denver is still throwing thunderstorms at us. Y’all can quit any time now.
re: #260 Anymouse 🌹
Lots of counties colored with flood related watches/warnings, there in the middle part of the country:
.@huny unpacks the symbolism of Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s ‘Apeshit’ https://t.co/AVqk0ANwCm
— ELLE Magazine (US) (@ELLEmagazine) June 18, 2018
re: #180 wheat-dogg
For the life of me, I cannot fathom why it took so long for people to catch on that Theranos was a scam.
Because it’s a great story.
People believe stories a lot more than they believe facts, and in particular silicon valley investors love to believe in any story about ‘disrupting’ existing markets.
Once she had started receiving investment, pointing out that her was based on deceit not only would mean the investors had lost their money, but also that the reality they really hoped would be true, would have been proven to be not true.
What Could Go Wrong?: The Philippines has vowed to give free guns to members of the public — so long as they promise to use them to fight drugs and crime https://t.co/icdmQmkxc9 pic.twitter.com/ccsS7IUYBn
— TheWalkerCollective (@AFirm4Creatives) June 17, 2018
re: #261 freetoken
Lots of counties colored with flood related watches/warnings, there in the middle part of the country:
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I see a flash flood watch went up on the South Platte River between Denver and Sterling.
Flood warnings are up all around my county (but not including it); I imagine if all this rain continues, Sidney is going to be under a flood warning as well.
The line of thunderstorms is drifting north, while Denver still keeps coughing them up.
Poll: More Republicans view Kim Jong Un favorably than they do Pelosi https://t.co/5sZPPMbn7s pic.twitter.com/eIjN9y22az
— The Hill (@thehill) June 18, 2018
just want to remind everyone that, a year ago, a similar poll reported that republicans preferred vladimir putin to barack obama.
sooo-
this sounds about right.
keep on with your “both political parties are the same” narratives, though.
no daylight between them at all. https://t.co/tTI3eIaJNN— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) June 18, 2018
re: #37 Winston_Smith
The term “Christian” no longer has any meaning here. If anything it’s become a slur describing greedy self righteous pricks who only believe in themselves.
It is Christian to obey the law…unless the law states that you cannot discriminate against gays.
At this point, I’m suspicious of anyone who isn’t saying “Fuck Trump” at least once a day.
— Jennifer Wright (@JenAshleyWright) June 18, 2018
Well, I have returned from finishing my grades for the term and watching our student assistant receive his master’s degree in linguistics. Did I miss anything horrible?
re: #269 wheat-dogg
Well, I have returned from finishing my grades for the term and watching our student assistant receive his master’s degree in linguistics. Did I miss anything horrible?
There was all kinds of
re: #114 Unshaken Defiance
WATCH: Laura Ingraham describes child detention centers as “essentially summer camps”
Hello muddah, hello fadduh, here I am at Camp Estrada…
re: #266 JordanRules
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At the end of the day, a liberal is likely to concede that as bad as a Republican may be, he is still preferable to a mass-murdering dictator.
A conservative only sees a guy who can order others to do whatever he likes through fear of death and thinks “Shit, why can’t we have that here?”
Ninja lizard
Leopard Cub Gets Slapped Around by Lizard: https://t.co/tNpX8s9Sim via @YouTube
— Kruger Sightings (@LatestKruger) June 19, 2018
re: #272 Targetpractice
At the end of the day, a liberal is likely to concede that as bad as a Republican may be, he is still preferable to a mass-murdering dictator.
A conservative only sees a guy who can order others to do whatever he likes through fear of death and thinks “Shit, why can’t we have that here?”
We’re on our way!
I went to summer camp on several occasions as a kid. And while it was considered a major hassle because you’re usually out in the boonies away from civilization, being taken home was neither impossible nor were you really restricted from calling home if you had the money to do so (back in that mythical time before cellphones). The fencing was there to keep out unwanted wildlife and weirdos, the counselors were there to support us and not as our guards, and the general atmosphere is we were there to have fun not being kept as prisoners until the people in charge could figure out what the fuck to do with us.
This “summer camp” shit is going to look even more ridiculous as we move into fall and winter, as the odds that the GOP are going to do anything other than aid and abet this criminal behavior through the election and into next year are vanishingly small.
re: #204 wheat-dogg
When Trump won the election, my heart was down around my ankles. I knew what his election meant, and every day that passes only confirms my worst fears. Just when I thought they could go no lower, this administration goes lower.
I kept saying that things had to get a lot worse before they could even start to get better.
I really hope they don’t have to get too much worse than this.
re: #203 Anymouse 🌹
The closest I’ve been was when we lived in Oklahoma. If we’re going to use that pesky socialist metric system, a lightning bolt struck a tree in our front yard about 5m from our house and split it in two. (One half went down across the neighbour’s yard and the other half landed in the street.)
I recall as a kid in Gary, Indiana (musta been 5 or 6 years old) being awakened by a loud boom at night during a thunderstorm.
Turned out that a tree had been toppled by the storm and its roots ripped out a gas line to a neighbor’s house that then exploded. No fatalities, but injuries and the house was just a pile of rubble.
Dow futures down over 350 points, could be a bad day for investments tomorrow.
re: #279 Single-handed sailor
Dow futures down over 350 points, could be a bad day for investments tomorrow.
Must be reacting to Donny threatening another $200B in Chinese tariffs.
NEW: The DOJ is mandating *all* immigration court staff (not just judges) make themselves available for six weeks to travel to remote courts, including on the weekends, between July and January to deal what it calls “mass migration emergencies” and “enforcement initiatives.” pic.twitter.com/VIgLXnidn2
— Aura Bogado (@aurabogado) May 31, 2018
I tweeted this almost three weeks ago. It’s an exclusive document I obtained. It might make more sense to more people now. https://t.co/gHsPdgGT45
— Aura Bogado (@aurabogado) June 19, 2018
re: #281 JordanRules
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Note the period: “between July and January.”
“Summer camps,” my ass.
re: #281 JordanRules
Why is this not covered by more of the mass media? Why does it take narrow-cast journalists/activists to bring these things to light?
re: #283 freetoken
Why is this not covered by more of the mass media? Why does it take narrow-cast journalists/activists to bring these things to light?
Because there is too much happening all at once. Only specialists can catch the changes on their own beats.
I hate to trivialize this by calling it a “burn” … But it is a wonderfully brutal response to Sessions’ rank bullshit.
MORE: AG Sessions dismisses comparisons of Trump border policy to Nazi Germany, saying in interview on Fox: “It’s a real exaggeration of course. Nazi Germany, they were keeping Jews from leaving country.” (1/2)
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 19, 2018
Yeah except when shipping them to Auschwitz? https://t.co/N8u9yJxkBR
— Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports) June 19, 2018
re: #284 wheat-dogg
Because there is too much happening all at once. Only specialists can catch the changes on their own beats.
Investigative journalists have been replaced by unpaid interns who just browse Twitter and FB feeds…
re: #285 LastYearsMan
I hate to trivialize this by calling it a “burn” … But it is a wonderfully brutal response to Sessions’ rank bullshit.
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Y’know, I wonder if Sessions is a Holocaust denier. His comment would make sense in that case. He doesn’t accept the fact that the Reich sent millions of people to die in those camps.
re: #287 wheat-dogg
Y’know, I wonder if Sessions is a Holocaust denier. His comment would make sense in that case. He doesn’t accept the fact that the Reich sent millions of people to die in those camps.
Nor does it consider how we denied a lot of Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler’s Germany entry into the USA
On the realities of commerce and Amazon: earlier, yesterday, I noted a shipping error in an “add on ” item to one of my Prime orders. Inexpensive, generic acetaminophen.
To fix it I have to either ship the package back or take it to an Amazon locker. Either way, it’s a hassle for a $6.50 item. Note - I got half of what I ordered, one box instead of two.
Now it turns out that to order the equivalent item from Amazon, same manufacturer and size etc., is $8 per box, Prime shipping. The “add on” item was a limited event.
So I can return the one box and get my $6.50 back in refund, and then order again by the box at more money for a Prime delivery, or order via Amazon from a non-Amazon shipper and wait 10 days for arrival via snail mail for the same item and price as my original “add on” order .
Anyway, Prime is convenient, but one does often pay more compared to the lowest prices around the internet.
I think I may just keep my one box (instead of two) I got for $6.50, instead of ordering the Amazon-shipped $8/box same item, or waiting 10 days for some East-coast marketer to ship me two boxes for the price of one Amazon-shipped box.
re: #287 wheat-dogg
He’s not a denier, he thinks it was a good idea.
re: #285 LastYearsMan
I hate to trivialize this by calling it a “burn” … But it is a wonderfully brutal response to Sessions’ rank bullshit.
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It’s all such bullshit. The Reich was perfectly happy with Jews escaping during the late-30s, even if only because it was a propaganda victory for them every time a ship carrying Jewish exiles was denied entry to supposed “free” nations like the US or Canada. Hitler actually used the refusal by Western nations to accept German Jews as “proof” that they were “undesirables” and thus the German people should not care how they were treated.
And when the Reich couldn’t get rid of the Jews by driving them out, they resorted to stuffing them into ghettos, seizing their property and valuables by asserting that under the Nuremberg Laws they had no rights and could not contest the theft or their incarceration. The camps came later and even then were largely a measure to “clear out” the ghettos in favor of far more economical means of housing the large numbers of prisoners. The Holocaust came largely because the “Jewish Problem” wasn’t being solved fast enough, that even proposals like forced sterilization, mandatory abortion, and other means of “population control” with an eye towards gradual extermination would take far longer than the higher-ups wanted. The average German was ignorant of what was going on in the camps largely because that’s what their leaders wanted them to be, wanted to keep the fiction that the Jews had simply been “resettled” going as long as possible.
But there’s too much information and nuance in even this post for the average wingnut to understand. Their knowledge of WWII begins and ends with “We came in and cleaned up Europe’s mess, so they should be eternally grateful to us!”
Oh, and the price of medication - the name brand Tylenol, in packaging for the US, is more than twice as expensive as the other brand.
Everyone seems to think that “free” TV and radio and such is indeed free.
But it’s not.
You pay through increased prices for brands, brands who exist by putting themselves in front of your face daily.
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re: #292 Targetpractice
The Reich demanded exorbitant fees from Jews wishing to emigrate. It was part of the Reich’s plan to prop up the economy.
re: #295 wheat-dogg
The Reich demanded exorbitant fees from Jews wishing to emigrate. It was part of the Reich’s plan to prop up the economy.
trading short-term gains against long-term benefits.
Imagine what the German war industry might have produced with Jewish scientists working on bombs, aircraft and rockets for it…
re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
trading short-term gains against long-term benefits.
Imagine what the German war industry might have produced with Jewish scientists working on bombs, aircraft and rockets for it…
It wasn’t simply Jewish scientists. Women were totally barred from the sciences except as assistants and even then only until they married at which time they were to retire to the home to raise children. And if you weren’t a member in good standing of the Nazi Party, you might find no labs willing to take you or publish your work. The Reich took numerous self-defeating steps to ensure its “superiority,” convinced that the men who remained would produce far greater technological marvels than “decadent” Western nations.
re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
trading short-term gains against long-term benefits.
Imagine what the German war industry might have produced with Jewish scientists working on bombs, aircraft and rockets for it…
Werner Heisenberg was related to Jews, IIRC, perhaps by marriage. There is some debate whether he and other scientists working on the German A-bomb “dragged their heels” to delay completion of the project. I’d need to look it up in Richard Rhodes’ history of the atomic bomb, which I don’t have handy now.
Hitler and the Reich mistrusted “Jewish science,” so few if any of the scientists had Jewish connections. Heisenberg may have been given a pass, because he was one of Germany’s most brilliant minds.
re: #297 Targetpractice
It wasn’t simply Jewish scientists. Women were totally barred from the sciences except as assistants and even then only until they married at which time they were to retire to the home to raise children. And if you weren’t a member in good standing of the Nazi Party, you might find no labs willing to take you or publish your work. The Reich took numerous self-defeating steps to ensure its “superiority,” convinced that the men who remained would produce far greater technological marvels than “decadent” Western nations.
They did not even want women working in the defense industries until it became absolutely necessary.
re: #297 Targetpractice
It wasn’t simply Jewish scientists. Women were totally barred from the sciences except as assistants and even then only until they married at which time they were to retire to the home to raise children. And if you weren’t a member in good standing of the Nazi Party, you might find no labs willing to take you or publish your work. The Reich took numerous self-defeating steps to ensure its “superiority,” convinced that the men who remained would produce far greater technological marvels than “decadent” Western nations.
Oh, yeah. German women were only supposed to be mothers, housewives, and if single, nurses and schoolteachers. Nazi doctrine saw them principally as makers of Aryan babies.
re: #298 wheat-dogg
Werner Heisenberg was related to Jews, IIRC, perhaps by marriage. There is some debate whether he and other scientists working on the German A-bomb “dragged their heels” to delay completion of the project. I’d need to look it up in Richard Rhodes’ history of the atomic bomb, which I don’t have handy now.
I think it has more to do with how the US dedicated resources to the Manhattan Project that Germany could only dream of.
re: #300 wheat-dogg
Oh, yeah. German women were only supposed to be mothers, housewives, and if single, nurses and schoolteachers. Nazi doctrine saw them principally as makers of Aryan babies.
Lebensborn again?
re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I think it has more to do with how the US dedicated resources to the Manhattan Project that Germany could only dream of.
I finished reading The Wages of Destruction, about the German war economy, a few weeks ago. One key idea was the Reich was throwing money at all kinds of projects — jet planes, submarines, the V-2 rockets, the A-bomb, tanks, and on and on — so much so that there was not enough money for any one thing. It was robbing Peter to pay Paul, especially when it came to steel and aluminum. If the Reich had managed to capture Soviet resources, it might have succeeded with any of those programs. But losing the Eastern Front battle doomed the war economy. Game over.
re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Lebensborn again?
Yeah, not too much difference between Nazi thought and Quiverfull thought. Conquer the world by birthing lots of babies.
re: #303 wheat-dogg
I finished reading The Wages of Destruction, about the German war economy, a few weeks ago. One key idea was the Reich was throwing money at all kinds of projects — jet planes, submarines, the V-2 rockets, the A-bomb, tanks, and on and on — so much so that there was not enough money for any one thing. It was robbing Peter to pay Paul, especially when it came to steel and aluminum. If the Reich had managed to capture Soviet resources, it might have succeeded with any of those programs. But losing the Eastern Front battle doomed the war economy. Game over.
Also didn’t help that the Nazi predilection towards paranoia and corruption meant a lot of duplication of effort. The Allies realized if a bomb was going to be built, they had to concentrate all of their best thinkers until they reached a critical mass that made the necessary breakthroughs. Meanwhile, the Reich kept separating various programs among various groups, even if for no other reason than the leader of one group was considered “unreliable” by someone higher up.
re: #303 wheat-dogg
I finished reading The Wages of Destruction, about the German war economy, a few weeks ago. One key idea was the Reich was throwing money at all kinds of projects — jet planes, submarines, the V-2 rockets, the A-bomb, tanks, and on and on — so much so that there was not enough money for any one thing. It was robbing Peter to pay Paul, especially when it came to steel and aluminum. If the Reich had managed to capture Soviet resources, it might have succeeded with any of those programs. But losing the Eastern Front battle doomed the war economy. Game over.
“My generals understand nothing about the economics of war!” was Hitler’s quote.
But Hitler was beaten by a war of economics.
It was all a big crapshoot on Germany’s part, posited on seizing the enemy’s resources and using them to continue the war to victory. Especially oil. They could build all the tanks and planes they wanted but did not have the means to fuel them.
Even the plan for the Battle of the Bulge hinged on capturing US army supply depots at Trois-Ponts and Liège.
re: #304 wheat-dogg
Yeah, not too much difference between Nazi thought and Quiverfull thought. Conquer the world by birthing lots of genetically pure white babies.
re: #305 Targetpractice
Also didn’t help that the Nazi predilection towards paranoia and corruption meant a lot of duplication of effort.
I read that when the Germans developed the first successful remotely guided plane-launched missiles, the Luftwaffe kept the information under wraps because they feared Hitler would then suspend aircraft production.
re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I read that when the Germans developed the first successful remotely guided plane-launched missiles, the Luftwaffe kept the information under wraps because they feared Hitler would then suspend aircraft production.
There was a lot of rivalry and mistrust among the Luftwaffe, the army and the navy, and within the navy, between the submarine command and the surface vessels, especially as there simply was not enough money or raw materials available for all the services.
Hitler was unhinged from reality and prosecuted a war from a weak foundation. I worry what an unhinged Trump could do if he decided it was time for a nice little war.
re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I read that when the Germans developed the first successful remotely guided plane-launched missiles, the Luftwaffe kept the information under wraps because they feared Hitler would then suspend aircraft production.
That was another thing, interservice rivalry was a major issue even among things that other nations would consider worth getting over for the sake of a war. The Kriegsmarine spent a shitload of precious Reichsmarks on capital ships including their one and only (unfinished) aircraft carrier, but were constantly fighting with Goering who insisted that control over all aircraft fall under the control of the Luftwaffe. That not only meant that development work on carrier aircraft lagged severely, but it also meant that the Kriegsmarine had to abandon capital ships because the precious few they had were too valuable to use for commerce raiding, which is why they seemed a “waste” compared to subs which were sinking millions of tons of shipping each month.
re: #309 wheat-dogg
There was a lot of rivalry and mistrust among the Luftwaffe, the army and the navy, and within the navy, between the submarine command and the surface vessels, especially as there simply was not enough money or raw materials available for all the services.
Hitler was unhinged from reality and prosecuted a war from a weak foundation. I worry what an unhinged Trump could do if he decided it was time for a nice little war.
It wasn’t helped by Hitler’s grandiose demands that his ministers and generals had to try to make reality for fear of failure. He wanted a surface navy to rival the Royal Navy, he wanted aircraft with the range to attack NYC, and he wanted battalions of tanks that were impervious to anything that they might encounter on the battlefield. And he wanted all of it by the end of the 1940s, as he felt only then could Germany have the power to take whatever it wanted in his lifetime.
re: #309 wheat-dogg
I worry what an unhinged Trump could do if he decided it was time for a nice little war.
I worry that if he gets backed too far into a corner that he might resort to something like that.
re: #73 Interesting Times
This 3-tweet thread encapsulates so much:
People who’d once been okay with forcing civilians into prison camps and cages, and breaking up families, because they’d told themselves they were just being “concentrated” in certain areas realized that doing so was, in fact, terrible and should never happen again.
like i said yesterday, never again is happening now
re: #82 jaunte
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does somebody really have to point out to this asshat that children of divorces arent taken from both parents
re: #127 jaunte
Summer camp probably would feel different if you weren’t allowed to leave.
and there were guards
re: #315 dangerman
does somebody really have to point out to this asshat that children of divorces arent taken from both parents
And most divorces end up with both parents being able to see the kids at some time unless there’s heavy abuse or the one parent doesn’t want anything to do with the kids. It’s a stupid analogy and he knows it.
re: #315 dangerman
does somebody really have to point out to this asshat that children of divorces arent taken from both parents
or put in cages
it is all just flailing around to find some talking points
I hope we are starting to see things tip…after the Stoneman-Douglas shooting the NRA lost its ability to control the narrative on gun violence.
After this inhumane situation with kiddie concentration camps, even people who generally support Trump’s immigration policies (outside his base, for whom he can do no wrong) are starting to see that he has gone too far.
Naaah, it’s the computer age—“we’ll” microchip ‘em instead. And the fact that’s what we do to dogs and cats will definitely be played up to emphasise *their* inhumanity.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) June 19, 2018
re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
or put in cages
it is all just flailing around to find some talking points
I hope we are starting to see things tip…after the Stoneman-Douglas shooting the NRA lost its ability to control the narrative on gun violence.
After this inhumane situation with kiddie concentration camps, even people who generally support Trump’s immigration policies (outside his base, for whom he can do no wrong) are starting to see that he has gone too far.
I like to think we’re reaching a breaking point, but if the GOP has shown anything, it’s a ready ability to shore up those breaking points by making them look “reasonable” later down the line. And that’s what they’re working on at the moment, trying to argue that building the Tortilla Curtain is “reasonable” when the “alternative” is tearing apart families and stuffing kids in camps.
re: #319 Chrysicat
I am sure they’ll get better at keeping track one they start tattooing the children.
make sure that the numbers all start out with MS-13…
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re: #162 HappyWarrior
My understanding is there are detention centers all over the country and there are kids being shipped to them now.
re: #149 freetoken
Typical of what one finds this day, a Trumper being all “Christian”:
I’m sorry but illegal immigrants are not “refugees”, if they were they would not be breaking the law. Legally there is a difference
you typed this backwards
refugees are not illegal immigrants. they are not breaking the law. legally there is a difference.
re: #322 A Mom Anon
My understanding is there are detention centers all over the country and there are kids being shipped to them now.
Yeah I should figure out where the closest one here is and maybe protest. Kind of at a a disadvantage since I don’t drive.
Colorado farmer:
Ugh…that was relatively short and relatively bad…our milo is small enough it can use this moisture, corn is tough enough…but sadly, the damn white combine had to come out to play and some really awesome wheat just got replanted #dangit #somecloudsarejerks
— Tractor Ninja (@43happyninjas) June 19, 2018
Just over 1 inch out of those 2, i can hear water running like a river 1/4 mile away in our drainage…we’ll see what daylight shows us #cowx pic.twitter.com/XoA1WGRjZz
— Tractor Ninja (@43happyninjas) June 19, 2018
his bio says he uses no-till method, which will be what saves any of his crop.
re: #323 dangerman
you typed this backwards
refugees are not illegal immigrants. they are not breaking the law. legally there is a difference.
And once again ignores that illegal immigration is a civil not a criminal matter. I’ve tried pointing those two facts everywhere I can and I’ve been ignored by smug “They should just do it legally” assholes.
re: #320 Targetpractice
I like to think we’re reaching a breaking point, but if the GOP has shown anything, it’s a ready ability to shore up those breaking points by making them look “reasonable” later down the line.
Yes, I saw how fascism and white supremacism went from being something totally anathema to American values to merely spots along the accepted political spectrum.
I saw blatant lies, misrepresentations and hypocricy went unchallenged my media reporters afraid to lose their “access”.
I saw how “Christians” who felt compelled to ignore the law on matters of gay marriage and contraception are suddenly calling on us to obey God’s ordained government when it comes to separating families.
Watch Bishop Michael Curry and Father James Martin join @Lawrence to respond to Donald Trump’s team using the Bible to justify family separation. https://t.co/XABJhrITAe
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 19, 2018
Bishop Curry captured the world’s attention at the royal wedding. Now he has a few words for @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/njlIkI9t8q
— Lawrence O’Donnell (@Lawrence) June 19, 2018
re: #320 Targetpractice
I like to think we’re reaching a breaking point, but if the GOP has shown anything, it’s a ready ability to shore up those breaking points by making them look “reasonable” later down the line. And that’s what they’re working on at the moment, trying to argue that building the Tortilla Curtain is “reasonable” when the “alternative” is tearing apart families and stuffing kids in camps.
We’ve seen opposition to all legal abortion become a mainstream Republican point. That’s what I talk about with Trumpism without Trump. Trump’s still gong to be influencing the policy even if we’re lucky enough to get him sent to ADA Florence for an extended stay.
re: #323 dangerman
you typed this backwards
refugees are not illegal immigrants. they are not breaking the law. legally there is a difference.
and children are not criminals, even if they are here illegally. they totally ignore the concept that we are dealing with minors who cannot be treated as criminals in the legal sense even if they are in violation of the law.
ENOUGH of the misinformation. This Administration did not create a policy of separating families at the border. pic.twitter.com/y0uuYUkSEL
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) June 18, 2018
The Official Lie is Out. Now Nothing can be ever again be believed from @WhiteHouse #Disgraceful https://t.co/gG2wyBIcwP
— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) June 19, 2018
Democrats press U.S. Justice Dept. officials on possible leaks to Giuliani https://t.co/SSteOmsRru pic.twitter.com/YL6lTzwqvn
— Reuters Politics (@ReutersPolitics) June 19, 2018
re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and children are not criminals, even if they are here illegally. they totally ignore the concept that we are dealing with minors who cannot be treated as criminals in the legal sense even if they are in violation of the law.
The adults aren’t criminals either actually. It has been so frustrating since our immigration policy in the executive branch run by people who have a comments section understanding of immigration law.
re: #162 HappyWarrior
I just wish I could actively do something. We’re not near the border unfortunately.
i feel absolutely helpless as this gets worse and worse before it gets any better
re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Okay even if you didn’t- you fucking did but even if oyu didn’t, you do have the power to change this but yet you don’t? Why? I can answer this. It’s because you’re vindictive bastards led by an orange shitgibbon who has been a bigot his entire time in public life and an AG who always been against legal immigration.
re: #334 dangerman
i feel absolutely helpless as this gets worse and worse before it gets any better
It doesn’t get any cooler in Texas as the Summer approaches.
re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So we have a president who can pardon himself and do whatever he likes with the power invested in his office…BUT he cannot take any step whatsoever to scale back this policy and thus is totally helpless to do anything unless Congress takes steps.
Here’s a hell of an idea: Sign an EO to stop the DOJ from separating families and thus challenge Congress to do something about it. Oh wait, my mistake, “law and order” only means bitching about rich men being sent to jail for witness tampering.
oh, the irony…
About 75 people blockading ICE prison in Portland, OR. DHS keep coming out to ask protesters to let 9 ICE employees to leave.
“So they can get home to their families.” pic.twitter.com/ipf5Emp6N8— Arun Gupta (@arunindy) June 19, 2018
Trump actually made it pretty clear the other day- GIMME MY WALL OR THE KIDS GET IT! He pulled the same shit with the DREAMers.
re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh, the irony…
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Oh how nice they have families to go home too.
— Meanwhile in Canada (@MeanwhileinCana) June 19, 2018
re: #197 Anymouse 🌹
Holy crap! A lightning bolt just struck less than three hundred yards away. My heart is still stuck to the ceiling. BRB while I go peel it off.
my next door neighbor had a lightning strike last week
he had a power washer sitting on his grass - not plugged in
the lightning sought out the metal wand
blew the thing to smithereens
burned black patch of grass
no one around / nobody hurt, no other damage
Lotta silence from the Trumpers on my TL these days. Sure some stupid memes now and them. Good, I hope they feel some shame deep down knowing about the policy and President they enthuisatically support. The more anti Trump conservatives I know have to their credit been critical though one of them really pissed me off by doing that both parties nonsense and ignoring that slavish devotion to Trump by the Congressional GOP has made this problem worse.
~ Ann Coulter - I’m the craziest female white supremacist in America
~ Dana Loesch - Step aside, Ann. America knows I am
~ Kirstjen Nielsen - Hold my Tiki Torch— Albert D (@BigAlDell) June 18, 2018
re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Coulter yesterday claimed the kids were actors and begged Trump “not to be fooled”, Ingraham likened the camps where the kids are being held to summer camps. The sad thing is all these women except Coulter I believe have kids of their own. I’m not a father BWS but you do know how much I adore my niece, if something like this happened to her, I’d be trying to help her so fast.
The GOP’s Immigration Meltdown: Restrictionists may cost Republicans their majorities in Congress. https://t.co/IWji9kRfYq
— Jeff Hoover (@KYHoover) June 19, 2018
re: #198 wheat-dogg
Sunday was Father’s Day. Monday my second granddaughter was born. I should be ecstatically happy. Instead, I feel sick to my stomach — near tears — thinking of the parents and their kids ripped apart by this administration’s evil policies.
The last time I felt this bad was Election night 2016.
election night was a surprise - shocker and a stunner
we had to adjust our plans, outlook, attitudes the future and stuff like that
this is worse
these people are evil lying monsters
they cant easily be stopped
and they are doing it in our name
re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #241 Anymouse 🌹
Today in history, Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo.
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the shoes!!
Church charges brought against Sessions
More than 600 United Methodist clergy and laity say they are bringing church law charges against U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a fellow United Methodist, over a zero tolerance U.S. immigration policy — a policy that includes separating children from parents apprehended for crossing into the U.S. illegally.
However, an authority on church history and polity said he’s unaware of a complaint against a lay person ever moving past the district level.
The group claimed in a June 18 statement that Sessions, a member of a Mobile, Alabama, church, violated Paragraph 2702.3 of the denomination’s Book of Discipline.
Specifically, the group accuses him of child abuse in reference to separating young children from their parents and holding them in mass incarceration facilities; immorality; racial discrimination and “dissemination of doctrines contrary to the established standards of doctrines” of The United Methodist Church.
All are categories listed in 2702.3 as chargeable offenses for a professing member of a local church.
re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Good. The fates of millions shouldn’t be decided by a bunch of assholes in parts of the country where time refuses to change.
That moment where I’d give anything to “throw like a girl” 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 pic.twitter.com/AOH2LSfckd
— UnsilentMajority 🌹 (@The_UnSilent_) June 19, 2018
re: #354 MsJ
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Roberto Clemente- Puerto Rican-American baseball player always credited his strong arm to his mom.
re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth
The comments at the Wall Street Journal (where a subscription is required to post) are just shy of the Daily Stormer.
It’s appalling.
jeebus
Attorney General Jeff Sessions on family separations at the border: “We’re doing the right thing. We’re taking care of these children.” https://t.co/aHHQyko881 pic.twitter.com/nZguxyaCsx
— CNN (@CNN) June 19, 2018
Trump is fucking over America sooo badly, and not just in the short term.
New US Tariffs are Anti-Maker and Will Encourage Offshoring
Excerpt:
Above: Learning to blink a light is the de-facto introduction to electronics, and it typically involves a circuit board and an LED, like those pictured above.
Somewhere on the Pacific Ocean right now floats a container of goods for ed-tech startup Chibitronics. The goods are slated primarily for educators and Makers that are stocking up for the fall semester. It will arrive in the US the second week of July, and will likely be greeted by a heavy import tax. I know this because I’m directly involved in the startup’s operations. Chibitronics’ core mission is to serve the educator market, and as part of that we routinely offered deep discounts on bulk products for educators and school systems. Now, thanks to the new tariffs on the basic components that educators rely upon to teach electronics, we are less able to fulfill our mission.
re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Call the Church Police!
Extradition pending
re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹
Put Trump, his family and his pals in the Jupiter 2…and have Dr. Smith sabotage it!
That sounds like a plan!!
How the relationship between Russia and the Religious Right began
New documents obtained by ThinkProgress show how Russian and American fundamentalists first began their collaboration.
CASEY MICHEL
JUN 19, 2018, 8:00 AM
re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I’ve entertained the thought a few times in recent days that there are elements in the administration who might see this as an opportunity, separating the kids from their folks so as to more easily manipulate them into becoming obedient little drones. After all, if your belief system says that every kid who comes here from foreign shores will inevitably become a Democrat, why wouldn’t you take steps to prevent that by getting to them first?
I think we all know who the real Ted Cruz is. https://t.co/JvuLgv9onf
— Blue Heron Farm (@BlueHeronFarmTX) June 19, 2018
re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth
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You’re putting them in fucking cages and separating them from their families. No, you are not.
The NYT spoke to Stephen Miller on the record with audio and they spiked it because the White House “were not comfortable using the audio…when they found out his voice was going to be on a podcast they were not happy about it. So they asked us not to use it.”
— Josh Sternberg (@joshsternberg) June 19, 2018
dude even creeps out the white house https://t.co/YDKuNgJBG4
— darth™ (@darth) June 19, 2018
o donald shaped entity
how mightily you have fucked yourself
and us
and countless innocent children,
citizens and non citizens
your randomness is epic
conditioned only by the demands of your infantile and imperfectly functioning psyche
a thousand frantic aides fail to contain it
constitutional checks and balances fail to anticipate it
the will of congress is paralyzed beholding it
and the best news sources lack all conviction,
while the worst are full of passionate intensity
o strange apparition resembling a scrotum wearing a cheap strawberry blonde wig
while you are spewing fuckuppedness in all directions
like moral and legal shrapnel that disfigures our society and whose scars we will bear for a very long time
please fuck your fucking fucked up self first and fucking only
and, finally, disappear up your own asshole so quickly that it creates a black hole with a fatal gravity so profound that it sucks up you, your actions, your name, and any memory you ever existed so completely that any possible trace of you is eradicated from our society and this earth entirely and forever
re: #276 Targetpractice
I went to summer camp on several occasions as a kid. And while it was considered a major hassle because you’re usually out in the boonies away from civilization, being taken home was neither impossible nor were you really restricted from calling home if you had the money to do so (back in that mythical time before cellphones). The fencing was there to keep out unwanted wildlife and weirdos, the counselors were there to support us and not as our guards, and the general atmosphere is we were there to have fun not being kept as prisoners until the people in charge could figure out what the fuck to do with us.
This “summer camp” shit is going to look even more ridiculous as we move into fall and winter, as the odds that the GOP are going to do anything other than aid and abet this criminal behavior through the election and into next year are vanishingly small.
There was fencing at my summer camp too
Foils
Its where I first started
re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth
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TED CRUZ: “Let me tell you right now: The left is going to show up,” Cruz said. “They will crawl over broken glass in November to vote.”
Yes. You’re damn right. We’re coming. This will not end well for any of you.— Jake Snowflake ❄️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@jake_snowflake) June 18, 2018
It’s a throwback dog whistle to the Nazi Kristallnacht “Night Of Broken Glass.” https://t.co/bja9865lKl
— Jake Snowflake ❄️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 (@jake_snowflake) June 19, 2018
From Balloon Juice:
Chadwick Boseman won for Best Hero for the MTV awards. He called up and gave his to James Shaw, Jr., because he wanted a real hero to have it:
.@chadwickboseman you a real one for this. #MTVAwards pic.twitter.com/diUURUwrWx
— B E A N Z | Thanos’ Personal Photographer 📸. (@PhotosByBeanz) June 19, 2018
From Michael B. Jordan: “I’m shocked that I won this award for Best Villain. I thought for sure Roseanne had that in the bag.”
This is Adam Nagorsky from his book Hitlerland. He’s talking about Hitler. pic.twitter.com/illiFXdZh0
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) June 19, 2018
re: #276 Targetpractice
I went to summer camp on several occasions as a kid. And while it was considered a major hassle because you’re usually out in the boonies away from civilization, being taken home was neither impossible nor were you really restricted from calling home if you had the money to do so (back in that mythical time before cellphones). The fencing was there to keep out unwanted wildlife and weirdos, the counselors were there to support us and not as our guards, and the general atmosphere is we were there to have fun not being kept as prisoners until the people in charge could figure out what the fuck to do with us.
This “summer camp” shit is going to look even more ridiculous as we move into fall and winter, as the odds that the GOP are going to do anything other than aid and abet this criminal behavior through the election and into next year are vanishingly small.
for those foolish enough to attempt to propogate this stupid analogy, we should arrange to show up at their door a month early, unannounced, remove their children from them abruptly and without accomodating any recourse, inform them that they may not communicate with them, and tell them their children are being sent to a summer camp consisting of spending most of your time in an auditorium located somewhere close to a giant truckstop on the interstate
and then send the children to a real summer camp run by adults who are not moronic sociopaths
So @IngrahamAngle we meet again. Who are you biggest advertisers now?
— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) June 19, 2018
re: #324 HappyWarrior
Yeah I should figure out where the closest one here is and maybe protest. Kind of at a a disadvantage since I don’t drive.
When I stopped thinking Texas and realized Miami and Boca, things got way more achievable
re: #370 MsJ
Is it really? I’m not exactly seeing the connection, other than glass. I mean, John McClane literally crawled over broken glass to save his wife.
Monday Mood …😨 pic.twitter.com/vkuHkhGkNI
— Stefano S. Magi (@StefanodocSM) June 18, 2018
re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #376 dangerman
When I stopped thinking Texas and realized Miami and Boca, things got way more achievable
Unfortunately not near those either. I did find a families belong together rally though for 6/30.
Kirstjen Nielsen becomes reluctant supporter of zero tolerance, as her mentor John Kelly advises her against doing White House press briefing, w/ @anniekarni - https://t.co/Dx5PuYi52G
— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) June 19, 2018
Oh please. Spare us. Nielsen looked non too “reluctant”. In fact, she looked a little too happy to be doubling-down on the cruelty of separating children from their parents. Shameful. https://t.co/kGUEBDdAHb
— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) June 19, 2018
Here is my first cartoon as a freelance syndicated cartoonist without a staff job. This story about the immigrant children makes me ashamed to be an American. https://t.co/EQJEUosTvi #TrumpConcentrationCamps #Trump #TrumpCamps #ImmigrantChildren #Immigration pic.twitter.com/fEE5vVuOiK
— Rob Rogers (@Rob_Rogers) June 19, 2018
re: #370 MsJ
TED CRUZ: “Let me tell you right now: The left is going to show up,” Cruz said. “They will crawl over broken glass in November to vote.”
I’m glad to see Cruz scared. He fucking should be. If anyone deserves to be the victim of the untapped Hispanic voting power in Texas, it deserves to be him.
SCOOP: In 1995, Russian and American social conservatives plotted out what would, during the 2016 election, become the main link between U.S. Christian fundamentalists and those in Moscow.
We obtained the notes from that very first meeting: https://t.co/z9cIvZ8Wb3 pic.twitter.com/KK77roiK6P— Casey Michel (@cjcmichel) June 19, 2018
re: #336 HappyWarrior
Okay even if you didn’t- you fucking did but even if oyu didn’t, you do have the power to change this but yet you don’t? Why? I can answer this. It’s because you’re vindictive bastards led by an orange shitgibbon who has been a bigot his entire time in public life and an AG who always been against legal immigration.
This is the most feckless position
Man with the power to create a space force with his pen can’t pick up a goddamn phone and stop this for the sake of humanity
re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth
SCOOP: In 1995, Russian and American social conservatives plotted out what would, during the 2016 election, become the main link between U.S. Christian fundamentalists and those in Moscow.
Russia is a role model: authoritarian, oligarchic and theocratic. Only difference is that they are Orthodox while our people go for Fundamentalist Protestant.
re: #338 Targetpractice
So we have a president who can pardon himself and do whatever he likes with the power invested in his office…BUT he cannot take any step whatsoever to scale back this policy and thus is totally helpless to do anything unless Congress takes steps.
Here’s a hell of an idea: Sign an EO to stop the DOJ from separating families and thus challenge Congress to do something about it. Oh wait, my mistake, “law and order” only means bitching about rich men being sent to jail for witness tampering.
You said it better
Remember when Cory Booker laced into Kirstjen Nielsen and some people thought he was being too tough?
What we saw yesterday is exactly why he should be tough on her.
Our administration is xenophobic. pic.twitter.com/IeLj74qCw4— Red T Raccoon (@RedTRaccoon) June 19, 2018
re: #341 HappyWarrior
Oh how nice they
have families to go home toocan leave.
.@RepMarkMeadows: “We’re going to introduce, later today, a piece of legislation… It deals with this issue that we’re having at the border, with the separation of children from their parents.” pic.twitter.com/Ms6rohxQKa
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 19, 2018
This is big news. Mark Meadows from the White House lawn says a separate one off piece of legislation ending family separation is forthcoming later today. No wall, DACA, or other provisions -> https://t.co/leRmpY6nWM
— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) June 19, 2018
re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth
“We’re going to introduce, later today, a piece of legislation… It deals with this issue that we’re having at the border, with the separation of children from their parents.”
even if they fix it, they still have to own what they did up to date
*blink*
NEW: Melania Trump’s immigration lawyer just compared the Trump administration family separation policy to Nazi Germany and the slave trade on Fox and Friends
— Evan Rosenfeld (@Evan_Rosenfeld) June 19, 2018
re: #344 HappyWarrior
Lotta silence from the Trumpers on my TL these days. Sure some stupid memes now and them. Good, I hope they feel some shame deep down knowing about the policy and President they enthuisatically support. The more anti Trump conservatives I know have to their credit been critical though one of them really pissed me off by doing that both parties nonsense and ignoring that slavish devotion to Trump by the Congressional GOP has made this problem worse.
Unless it’s deliberate obfuscation, bothsiderism is just intelliectual incuriosity and laziness
re: #394 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
even if they fix it, they still have to own what they did up to date
Yeah and I’ll be Margot Robbie’s next date to the awards shows.
re: #397 dangerman
Unless it’s deliberate obfuscation, bothsiderism is just intelliectual incuriosity and laziness
I am seeing some both siderism from some guy whose actual views I can’t even tell you. Dude just posts stupid memes all day.
re: #346 HappyWarrior
Coulter yesterday claimed the kids were actors and begged Trump “not to be fooled”, Ingraham likened the camps where the kids are being held to summer camps. The sad thing is all these women except Coulter I believe have kids of their own. I’m not a father BWS but you do know how much I adore my niece, if something like this happened to her, I’d be trying to help her so fast.
You don’t have to have kids to recognize barbarism
Fox and Friends broadcasting from the WH lawn once again; perhaps hoping to lure him out again?
No tweets from the yam yet.
I suspect he’s not having good morning.
I suspect that NO ONE in the WH is having a good morning.
re: #400 dangerman
You don’t have to have kids to recognize barbarism
Just as you can have kids and not :( or be indifferent to it.
re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth
Fox and Friends broadcasting from the WH lawn once again; perhaps hoping to lure him out again?
No tweets from the yam yet.
I suspect he’s not having good morning.
I suspect that NO ONE in the WH is having a good morning.
Good I hope he had nightmares.
GOP senator calls frequency of family separations “exaggerated,” then admits he may be wrong https://t.co/Xg9naMLhT5 pic.twitter.com/LWHNHzbzGF
— The Hill (@thehill) June 19, 2018
Doesn’t really know what he’s talking about, admits it, says it anyway. https://t.co/beKpVR1EjO
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
.@robertjeffress: “Liberals are the most intolerant people of all when it comes to ideas they disagree with.” #TheStory pic.twitter.com/JYLLgAbCWG
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 19, 2018
This is the same guy who complained about the NFL take a knee protests and once said “Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell” https://t.co/5nnaAZqbAl
— Melanie Schmitz (@MelsLien) June 19, 2018
It’s Juneteenth. And there are children locked in cages, stripped from their families. I don’t know if it’s the irony, ire, or iron of America that angers me most.
— Jason Reynolds (@JasonReynolds83) June 19, 2018
re: #381 HappyWarrior
Unfortunately not near those either. I did find a families belong together rally though for 6/30.
I meant me
Look at the detention facility’s map
Think locally
TODAY: @MSNBC brings you special coverage on the ground from the US/Mexico border.
Live from McAllen, TX don’t miss @sruhle at 9am and 11am ET, @craigmelvin at 1pm ET, and @allinwithchris and @chrislhayes at 8pm ET. At 10pm, @Lawrence anchors @TheLastWord from Brownsville, TX.— MSNBCPR (@MSNBCPR) June 19, 2018
#OTD 1865: Although the Emancipation Proclamation had been issued 2 years earlier, it wasn’t until this date — 2 months after #CivilWar ended — that all those enslaved in #Texas learned they were free. The day became known as “Juneteenth.” #Juneteenth2018 #history #sschat #tdih pic.twitter.com/CoUWmxPANV
— Jerry Mitchell (@JMitchellNews) June 19, 2018
re: #381 HappyWarrior
Unfortunately not near those either. I did find a families belong together rally though for 6/30.
the internal crisis i’m having is that *i* have to adjust to this
*i* have to find some way to be able to go on
with my daily life
my responsibilities and worse, my wants and frivolities
*i* have to find some sense and make this fit
*I* have to adjust
to this
re: #407 dangerman
I meant me
Look at the detention facility’s map
Think locally
Ah yeah. I do need to look at that.
The NYT spoke to Stephen Miller on the record with audio and they spiked it because the White House “were not comfortable using the audio…when they found out his voice was going to be on a podcast they were not happy about it. So they asked us not to use it.”
— Josh Sternberg (@joshsternberg) June 19, 2018
Stephen Miller designed the plan to snatch migrant children from their parents. The NYT now won’t run his on the record statements because it makes him “uncomfortable”.
It’s more important to NYT to placate white supremacists than to speak the truth about the abuse of children. https://t.co/A5KYgQ76aB— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) June 19, 2018
re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Fucking asshole plays God with these families and then he cries about his voice being heard. Sick that the NYT went with his request.
re: #415 HappyWarrior
Disgraceful. I’m even more satisfied now that I cancelled my subscription months ago.
President Trump renewed the sort of bald and demagogic attacks on undocumented immigrants that worked well for him politically in his 2016 presidential campaign https://t.co/5N3Z3xUyuu
— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) June 19, 2018
count all the polite euphemisms the NYT uses instead of calling GOP’s anti-immigration hysteria “racist” https://t.co/eP2Z2ivEkJ
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) June 19, 2018
re: #416 Ace Rothstein
Disgraceful. I’m even more satisfied now that I cancelled my subscription months ago.
I’ve never been a subscriber but it amazes me tehy do this shit and Trump still attacks them. Probably because he knows that’s how to elicit a response from his cult.
re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth
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NEW: Pres. Trump releases statement on Juneteenth.
“As a Nation, we vow to never forget the millions of African Americans who suffered the evils of slavery.” https://t.co/cHeUPhQtxv pic.twitter.com/acaIjsN7Mh— ABC News (@ABC) June 19, 2018
uh huh…
re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth
So, who wrote that for him?
re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth
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uh huh…
And the Trumpsuckers will use that go to “See libtard he can’t be a racist!”, it’s fucking lip service.
re: #416 Ace Rothstein
Disgraceful. I’m even more satisfied now that I cancelled my subscription months ago.
You and me both.
re: #421 freetoken
So, who wrote that for him?
Ivanka hasn’t been too busy lately has she? Maybe Barron?
re: #425 Ace Rothstein
Barack & Michelle.
Wouldn’t shock me if he just found Obama’s statement from two years ago and just changed some words.
Morning!
Trying to catch up a bit. There are a ton of comments since I left to go visit and have dinner with friends last night.
And I see both this thread is active as is the previous one. What’s up with that?
I think I’ll go over the old thread…but then…aww crap. It’s hopeless to get caught up.
Is Trump still president and has he fired anyone since last night???
re: #418 HappyWarrior
There need to be protests outside the fucking NYT building.
John Oliver’s episode about President Xi was very informative.
re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth
uh huh…
There’s a second part: “…so that we can continue to use what was done to them as an example of how to treat others.”
Laura Ingraham defends the incarceration of children because the kids could be “fresh recruits” for MS-13 pic.twitter.com/NcJrNZT1Zq
— Brian Tashman (@briantashman) June 19, 2018
This is why they do not show girls or small children, only boys. They want to send the subliminal message that every child they’re ripping away is really a violent gang member-in-waiting. https://t.co/8Zk1ya5yY7
— Karoli (@Karoli) June 19, 2018
If you’ve ever seen Trump talk about Lincoln without a script, you’ll know what I mean. It’s like listening to a 2nd grader talk.
Don’t want your family ripped apart? Don’t try to come into this country illegally.
Yes, it really is that simple.— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) June 18, 2018
To be fair, the crime Joe Walsh is best known for involved ripping his family apart, so that’s probably not a negative in his book https://t.co/ugwVtlnPci
— decidedly anti-flamethrower (@jesseltaylor) June 19, 2018
I’m done being nice. You voted for this Shitshow, I cannot count you as a person of good intent or anything else. If you can do the giant stretch it takes to try to justify this, I want zero to do with you. I might even go so far as to call you an “animal”, but that would be an insult to actual creatures with a soul. So I think I’ll stick with more precise terms, like psychopath.
re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Except it’s a civil matter and many of these people are in fact applying for asylum but lecture people more Dad who can’t even pay his fucking child support.
Q: But is it a deterrant sir?
Sessions: I see that no one as being prosecuted for this as a factor in a 5-fold increase in 4 years in this kind of illegal immigration. So yes. Hopefully people will get the message at the port of entry and not break across the border unlawfully— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 19, 2018
REPORTER (me): “Are you intending to send a message?”
SEC NIELSEN: “I find that offensive. No. Why would I ever create a policy that does that?”
REPORTER (me): “Perhaps as a deterrent.”
SEC NIELSEN: “No!”
And then, a few hours later, on Fox News… https://t.co/bi6zspMReC— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) June 19, 2018
re: #435 A Mom Anon
I’m done being nice. You voted for this Shitshow, I cannot count you as a person of good intent or anything else. If you can do the giant stretch it takes to try to justify this, I want zero to do with you. I might even go so far as to call you an “animal”, but that would be an insult to actual creatures with a soul. So I think I’ll stick with more precise terms, like psychopath.
I’m trying to call out the Trump policy supporters on FB with attacks on the inhumanity of the policies. No bites so far.
re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth
The NYT spoke to Stephen Miller on the record with audio and they spiked it because the White House “were not comfortable using the audio…when they found out his voice was going to be on a podcast they were not happy about it. So they asked us not to use it.”
NYT spiked a story because the WH didnt like how it would appear
good thing it wasnt, like, a first amendment issue or anything
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
And every white boy in America could end up liking kinky boots, Laura. (I was going to say Nazi, but she’s be OK with that.)
re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth
count all the polite euphemisms the NYT uses instead of calling GOP’s anti-immigration hysteria “racist”
“racist”, with “lie” is banging on the door to be let out
re: #442 Belafon
And every white boy in America could end up liking kinky boots, Laura. (I was going to say Nazi, but she’s be OK with that.)
You know in a way, she’s kind of right but not the reason she says. Her attitude is what makes these gangs welcoming to poor immigrant kids. It was like that with the Irish gangs, Italian ones, etc too. However, if you treat and welcome these kids, you get people who become better Americans than native born Americans like Laura.
re: #441 HappyWarrior
Fascist fucks can’t even get their stories straight.
they don’t have to, they have people to sort those things out for them
re: #445 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they don’t have to, they have people to sort those things out for them
I know.
There was no call between US and North Korean officials over the weekend, two administration officials tell CNN, despite President Donald Trump telling Fox News that he planned on “calling North Korea” over the Father’s Day holiday https://t.co/TSuMqjnQyd pic.twitter.com/hI1Rl74sSx
— CNN (@CNN) June 19, 2018
re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth
Laura Ingraham defends the incarceration of children because the kids could be “fresh recruits” for MS-13
What better way to put them on that path than to traumatize them, separate them from their families, and lock them in cages.
I want every smug my family did it right asshole to do the same research on their families that I have. Every last ancestor to America documented from the time of arrival! And note that’s something I’ve been unable to do and I live for genealogy research.
re: #448 jaunte
What better way to put them on that path than to traumatize them, separate them from their families, and lock them in cages.
Seriously in a perverse way, she’s kind of right and not for the reasons she thinks.
re: #441 HappyWarrior
Fascist fucks can’t even get their stories straight.
They might be morons, or it could also be deliberate. I mean, basically the Admin is gaslighting the rest of us, trying to blame liberals, Obama, Democrats, the Easter Bunny for this while claiming it’s not a policy of the administration. At the same time, it’s speaking out the side of it’s mouth to the hardcore racists to let them know that this was indeed an administration policy.
A letter out this morning from a bipartisan group of more than 70 former U.S. attorneys is calling on Jeff Sessions “to announce that this [family separation] policy was ill-conceived and that its consequences and cost are too drastic.” https://t.co/upuD1cbL89
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 19, 2018
“The law does not require the systematic separation of families under these circumstances. Collectively, as former United States Attorneys, we have prosecuted tens of thousands of cases involving far more serious crimes than misdemeanor illegal entry offenses.” https://t.co/PTtsLJqKf9
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 19, 2018
Sen. Mazie Hirono tells @Morning_Joe that Kirstjen Nielsen and Sarah Sanders should resign for telling ‘lies,’ then adds: “All of the people around the president who lie for him in order to keep their jobs, they have sold their souls, I would welcome their resignations.”
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 19, 2018
Social alientation is how these gangs get set up in the first place but you know what, Laura doesn’t know MS-13 from the cartels or her ass.
re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth
REPORTER (me): “Are you intending to send a message?”
SEC NIELSEN: “I find that offensive. No. Why would I ever create a policy that does that?”
REPORTER (me): “Perhaps as a deterrent.”
SEC NIELSEN: “No!”
And then, a few hours later, on Fox News…
sec nielsen on sessions: “sorry, not my department”
re: #453 HappyWarrior
Exactly. You isolate and destroy people and you end up with people looking to belong, anywhere. Gang leaders aren’t stupid, they provide a family where families are in tatters.
re: #2 Winston_Smith
I Love WIKILeaks!!!1
re: #285 LastYearsMan
I hate to trivialize this by calling it a “burn” … But it is a wonderfully brutal response to Sessions’ rank bullshit.
MORE: AG Sessions dismisses comparisons of Trump border policy to Nazi Germany, saying in interview on Fox: “It’s a real exaggeration of course. Nazi Germany, they were keeping Jews from leaving country.” (1/2)
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) June 19, 2018
There is a real analogy though — Jews who fled to America on the St. Louis were rejected and forced to return to Europe where many died in the Holocaust. The same type of fate faces many of these refugees on our border who will return, not to genocide, but to violence and rape. American have always been an uncaring people despite the myths we tell ourselves.
re: #455 A Mom Anon
Exactly. You isolate and destroy people and you end up with people looking to belong, anywhere. Gang leaders aren’t stupid, they provide a family where families are in tatters.
Laura thinks MS-13 exists because it’s evil. Its formation didn’t happen in a vacuum.
re: #440 dangerman
NYT spiked a story because the WH didnt like how it would appear
good thing it wasnt, like, a first amendment issue or anything
Hint to the White House…everything about Trump and the flotsam that occupy it has a nasty appearance and accompanying odor.
How about America spike you?
It would be for the best. Believe us!
— Ron Joseph (@questar1959_ron) June 19, 2018
This baby is being diapered by jailers, under orders not to hold him, or touch him, other than change his diaper. Human infants either, and die under these conditions. Babies need to be held, cuddled, loving care, to develop normally. This is CHILD ENDANGERMENT. https://t.co/b6ZopAT3h5
— Christine James-McNe (@McneJames) June 19, 2018
re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth
Fox and Friends broadcasting from the WH lawn once again; perhaps hoping to lure him out again?
No tweets from the yam yet.
I suspect he’s not having good morning.
I suspect that NO ONE in the WH is having a good morning.
They should just set up in the Oval Office.
//
The Nazis never saw themselves as villains.
You look at the horrible atrocities they committed and you think they MUST have known they were the monsters.
But they didn’t.
Instead, the Nazis thought they themselves were the VICTIMS.
1/ pic.twitter.com/EFkL7fISe0— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 18, 2018
It’s interesting to me that a common theme being pushed by troll/bot responses to my thread is:
Any Nazi comparisons (vis a vis child separations at the US border) are antisemitic because any such comparison disrespects the Holocaust.
1/ https://t.co/hN3UJAW4Fk— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
I find this fascinating. This attempt to turn the comparison on its head, to paint anyone who notices the obvious parallels between the early days of Nazi Germany and what’s happening in the US right now, as antisemitism in an obvious attempt to suppress that comparison.
2/ pic.twitter.com/8BeuhAphMt— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
I have to wonder if this was a deliberate decision at some troll farm somewhere, or if it grew organically in trollspace. I’ll be interested to see how it propagates across social media, if it gets picked up as a standard response by the administration.
3/3— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
Interesting.
So, you’re saying the world should do the same thing the world did back in the 1930s? I.e. ignore the warning signs, turn a blind eye to rising fascism, and wait until we’re actually herding children into the fucking cyanide showers?
Yeah, no. pic.twitter.com/vagc0wcnul— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 19, 2018
re: #460 jaunte
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We’ve become what our ancestors fought to liberate. And I’m fucking ill.
re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Jim’s absolutely right. Real life isn’t a comic book where the bad guy knows he’s the bad guy and lets you know. The Nazis saw themselves as victims and later liberators.
re: #285 LastYearsMan
I hate to trivialize this by calling it a “burn” … But it is a wonderfully brutal response to Sessions’ rank bullshit.
Wow, who spiked Andrea Mitchell’s cereal this morning?
I’d note to the guy concern trolling Jim that the organized mass extermination of the Jews didn’t start until much later.
re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Is it crazy to think the whole Trump and Kim thing might already be over and done?
Would it surprise anyone if it was all done for the look and now that it is time for details there will be none?
It’s already falling out of the news with the immigration mess.
If it was such a hot deal, you’d think Donny and Gang would be pumping it up all over the place to use it as cover for the mess he is in.
re: #368 dangerman
Eh, better than nothing. Military Saber is far more entertaining though.
This 1860 US light cavalry reproduction is my current primary.
This is a reproduction of a special saber for the 30th Light Dragoons honoring the Princess of Wales and issued from 1794 to 1796. It’s what I’d like to get next.
re: #463 HappyWarrior
I imagine the Alex Jones listener, surrounded by his totemic protective collection of guns and knives, thinking “well my parents never touched me, and I turned out fine.”
re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth
I realize that it’s a sensitive topic, one of the most horrific acts of human history, but we have to use it as a guide when it’s so obvious. Especially when the people perpetuating it either identify with Nazis or are sympathetic to them.
Yep @HillaryClinton is attempting to raise money off objecting to a policy she never minded until yesterday. 🤦♀️ pic.twitter.com/LsGcxqqaKe
— Gayle Trotter (@gayletrotter) June 18, 2018
Did you miss the live televised presidential debate where she warned all of us that Trump intended to do exactly this? Or are you just a liar?
— Polly Andry (@PollyAndry) June 19, 2018
Oh and BTW you did notice that she’s not raising money for herself, right? That the donations are going to groups who are fighting for these people, right? You did notice that, right? And just chose to not mention it… right?
WT actual F is wrong with you anyway?— Polly Andry (@PollyAndry) June 19, 2018
Gayle is being summarily dismembered in the rest of the responses as well.
Maybe we should update this to “Good American”? [present company excluded OC]
re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Gayle is being summarily dismembered in the rest of the responses as well.
She was speaking out about while people like Gayle were looking for excuses for Trump voters.
re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yep @HillaryClinton is attempting to raise money off objecting to a policy she never minded until yesterday. 🤦♀️ pic.twitter.com
— Gayle Trotter
It’s shameful of President Hillary Clinton to fund her re-election campaign off the misfortune of others.
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WDRB spent Monday trying to ask Sen. Rand Paul in Louisville about federal policy on immigrant children. Sen. Paul really really really did not want to share his opinions this one time. ^JC pic.twitter.com/14MFJo7K2D
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) June 19, 2018
re: #470 Belafon
I realize that it’s a sensitive topic, one of the most horrific acts of human history, but we have to use it as a guide when it’s so obvious. Especially when the people perpetuating it either identify with Nazis or are sympathetic to them.
You have to recognize the signs of it starting again before you can stop it, that’s what Never Again has always been about and we have seen that ehre.
re: #468 William Lewis
Eh, better than nothing. Military Saber is far more entertaining though.
This 1860 US light cavalry reproduction is my current primary.
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i was 10 ;-)
Ohhhh, the agony when you drop your last treat… 😢❤️🐶😻❤️
📹credit via Newsflare/Unilad pic.twitter.com/T7c8WyXqhs— Heidi (@HeidiStea) June 19, 2018
Oops …slippery when wet! ❤️😻🐿😯❤️
📹 credit Instagram/ veggiedayz pic.twitter.com/2XKoIPPO6E— Heidi (@HeidiStea) June 19, 2018
re: #468 William Lewis
Eh, better than nothing. Military Saber is far more entertaining though.
This 1860 US light cavalry reproduction is my current primary.
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re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Gayle is being summarily dismembered in the rest of the responses as well.
What a take for a journalist. She already has a baked in attitude about Hillary. No bias there!
I don’t think I have read her, but I bet that attitude is in everything she ever wrote about Hillary, or anything that would have Hillary in it, like coverage of Trump.
moron found his phone
I can’t think of something more concerning than a law enforcement officer suggesting that their going to use their powers to affect an election!” Inspector General Horowitz on what was going on with numerous people regarding my election. A Rigged Witch Hunt!p
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
(^^that is a lie)
If you don’t have Borders, you don’t have a Country!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
(^^doh)
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
(^^moron just can’t shut up)
re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth
I can’t think of something more concerning than
a law enforcement officeran American political candidatesuggesting that their going to use their powersbegging a foreign power to affect an election!”Inspector General Horowitz on what was going on with numerous people regarding my election. A Rigged Witch Hunt!p— Donald J. Trump
re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth
Rand and Mitch are not going to comment, lest they provoke the Wrath of Don. The entire GOP is stonewalling, aside from weak protests sent via tweets. The GOP, if it had any ounce of self-respect, could as a unit tell the White House to rescind the policy, or else lose their support for anything he wants to do. No funding for the wall, the Space Force, etc.
But the Republicans won’t do it. It’s the sword they are choosing to fall on.
re: #483 ObserverArt
What a take for a journalist. She already has a baked in attitude about Hillary. No bias there!
I don’t think I have read her, but I bet that attitude is in everything she ever wrote about Hillary, or anything that would have Hillary in it, like coverage of Trump.
What news source does she work for?
wonderful…
A WFPL News and Ohio Valley ReSource analysis found contaminated groundwater at 14 Kentucky power plants. That’s every power plant covered under the new federal rules.https://t.co/bhzWeWUdC0 pic.twitter.com/YaZergQbm0
— Ryan Van Velzer (@RyanVanVelzer) June 19, 2018
re: #477 HappyWarrior
You have to recognize the signs of it starting again before you can stop it, that’s what Never Again has always been about and we have seen that ehre.
Stephen Miller clearly identifies with the Nazis rather than the oppressed; he certainly doesn’t see his ancestors as akin to these refugees. A man with a total lack of empathy for the unfortunate of the world — just like Trump and the rest of his maladministration (as always, except Mattis) .
re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth
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(^^moron just can’t shut up)
I really hope he strokes out one day raging on his phone.
re: #489 Hecuba’s daughter
Stephen Miller clearly identifies with the Nazis rather than the oppressed; he certainly doesn’t see his ancestors as akin to these refugees. A man with a total lack of empathy for the unfortunate of the world — just like Trump and the rest of his maladministration (as always, except Mattis) .
Mattis may not be as malevolent as the others but he’s still a problem.
PSA:
— Melissa Hope (@lissalet) June 16, 2018
my classmate’s service dog came up to me alone outside and i said “where’s your mom?” he ran off and i ran with him. his mom was having a seizure on the sidewalk and i was there to put my sweater under her head to protect her.
always follow a service dog https://t.co/oruNJDW2YK— gretchen (@solelymoving) June 18, 2018
re: #480 William Lewis
Good age to start :)
i came home and said something like “ma i wanna learn this”
the local “Y” had a program
as did the town rec department
then we found there were other clubs
considering 1968 there was a lot of local fencing
over the years i ended up teaching the programs at the Y and the town rec
then off to college
first school had a club team
second didnt. (it had the future mrs dm who might have distracted my attention)
re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Gayle is being summarily dismembered in the rest of the responses as well.
Look at the rest of her tweets - a trumpist to the core
re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron found his phone
If you don’t have Borders, you don’t have a Country!
Look, there is some degree of validity to this, and a need to strengthen our borders as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform.
But that is not what he is initiating, advocating or even thinking about when he talks about building the Wall, rounding up undocumented immigrants or separating families.
You think any of these people care about family separation? If they did, they’d be upset about the collapse of the American family, which is measurable and real. They’re not. They welcome that collapse, because strong families are an impediment to their political power.
— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 19, 2018
Your favorite president has been married three times and cheated on all three. Your party ran a child molester for Senate. And then there’s Ailes. You don’t get to lecture ANYONE on “the collapse of the American family,” Tucker. https://t.co/odYmm4apZA
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) June 19, 2018
re: #487 Sir John Barron
What news source does she work for?
The Hill according to her tweet bio. I see she also writes for Townhall.
re: #486 wheat-dogg
Rand and Mitch are not going to comment, lest they provoke the Wrath of Don. The entire GOP is stonewalling, aside from weak protests sent via tweets. The GOP, if it had any ounce of self-respect, could as a unit tell the White House to rescind the policy, or else lose their support for anything he wants to do. No funding for the wall, the Space Force, etc.
But the Republicans won’t do it. It’s the sword they are choosing to fall on.
and let the party be millstoned with it forever
re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Ever since I’ve been seeing Rand Paul and his poodle-perm hairdo, I’ve thought I’d seen that somewhere before, and it finally came to me:
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re: #500 dangerman
and let the party be millstoned with it forever
even if they fix it tomorrow, they have to me made to own what they have done so far.
re: #473 dangerman
dow is down 300
Just saw this - now 381 almost 1.5%. Is this because of his tarriff policies or because he and his administration are stealing children from their parents and keeping them in cages
There is a very obvious throughline connecting the worst moments and policies of this administration, the travel ban, Charlottesville, Puerto Rico and family separation at the border.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 19, 2018
And its name is Stephen Miller. https://t.co/6zLCvw9h31
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) June 19, 2018
re: #503 fern01
Just saw this - now 381 almost 1.5%. Is this because of his tarriff policies or because he and his administration are stealing children from their parents and keeping them in cages
The economy is going to get worse and he’s going to scapegoat even more.
Those who object to likening this to Nazism have only seen the Nazi’s final product not educated themselves on how the Nazis were able to get that final product of mass murder and genocide.
re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth
PSA:
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They did a story on that on the Today Show. They had their service dog trainer on to explain what to do if a service dog comes up to you and bumps your leg with their nose…follow them. A service dog with their ID on and alone is a sign of distress for the dog’s owner.
re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Gayle is being summarily dismembered in the rest of the responses as well.
She’s just your typical Hillary hating Pre$$titute!
Instead of “good morning,” the Masai tribe of East Africa greets w/ “How are the children?”The “right” answer is “The children are well,”meaning All the children are well above all else. Let’s change our greeting starting tomorrow & not change it until it includes separated kids.
— Joyce Elliott (@xjelliott) June 19, 2018
#Sharks pic.twitter.com/yl9zRAl9g1
— Meanwhile in Canada (@MeanwhileinCana) June 19, 2018
re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth
Instead of “good morning,” the Masai tribe of East Africa greets w/ “How are the children?”The “right” answer is “The children are well,”meaning All the children are well above all else. Let’s change our greeting starting tomorrow & not change it until it includes separated kids.
and the first question to be asked of any candidate for Congress this year is whether they support or oppose a policy of separating families
re: #424 HappyWarrior
Ivanka hasn’t been too busy lately has she? Maybe Barron?
Barron came up with Space Force. “Can I have a Space Force, Daddy?”
“Sure kid, now scram.”
Ivanka Trump is staying silent on one of her biggest issues https://t.co/2NAwuLKyWf pic.twitter.com/8CjRNcUeNQ
— Business Insider (@businessinsider) June 19, 2018
selling shoes? https://t.co/BQvwzvvrOH
— darth™ (@darth) June 19, 2018
Since the president is lying about this, I’ll reiterate that we obtained internal CBP documents that show that ****91%**** of parents whose kids are taken away are being prosecuted for misdemeanor FIRST TIME entry.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 19, 2018
re: #499 ObserverArt
The Hill according to her tweet bio. I see she also writes for Townhall.
Ah, well, glad to see The Hill is giving sensible conservatives from publications like **squints** townhall.com a chance to influence the debate.
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re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth
Totally. Great point, Tucker.
For you guys marriage is between a man, his mistress, his lawyer, his Russian oligarch, a wadded up magazine, 16 sexual assault victims, his ex-wife, his other ex-wife and his current wife.— Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) June 19, 2018
Great game, Japan!
Bon match !#COLJPN #CM2018 #Totoro pic.twitter.com/7grPDyva2X
— Studio Ghibli France (@Studioghiblifr) June 19, 2018
re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth
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My brother had the pleasure to meet many of the when he was in Africa. Great people who made him feel at home in their homeland. He’s still friends with many of them and they stay in touch with Facebook. I know some of us don’t like FB but that’s why I do think social media is a good platform.
re: #520 HappyWarrior
Fuck you Tucker, seriously.
this is all a matter of thrashing about for talking points to fill air time.
only sociopaths can support this policy
re: #482 Dave In Austin
Hmmmmmm………
A few of their pieces look functional, but most there are wall hangers (stainless steel, decorative “stuff”). I find Kult of Athena far more fun to search through, especially when limiting the search to “battle ready”. Not that I’ll ever be fighting with sword or saber but for steel on steel exercise or cutting stuff (milk bottles & pool noodles forex :D), you need properly forged, quenched and tempered steel in the blade.
re: #522 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
this is all a matter of thrashing about for talking points to fill air time.
only sociopaths can support this policy
Sociopaths like Tucker.
re: #486 wheat-dogg
Rand and Mitch are not going to comment, lest they provoke the Wrath of Don. The entire GOP is stonewalling, aside from weak protests sent via tweets. The GOP, if it had any ounce of self-respect, could as a unit tell the White House to rescind the policy, or else lose their support for anything he wants to do. No funding for the wall, the Space Force, etc.
But the Republicans won’t do it. It’s the sword they are choosing to fall on.
All 49 Democrats and Independents have signed onto Feinstein’s bill. All it takes is 2 of the Republican Senators who have already announced retirement to sign on to make it passable. Then all Mitch has to do is let it be brought to a vote and the Republicans avoid filibustering it to get it through the Senate. They can then throw up their hands and blame the RINOs for passing it.
re: #496 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Look, there is some degree of validity to this, and a need to strengthen our borders as part of a comprehensive package of immigration reform.
But that is not what he is initiating, advocating or even thinking about when he talks about building the Wall, rounding up undocumented immigrants or separating families.
specific only to refugee, asylum and economic migration there will *never* be an orderly process
when it becomes desperation, the numbers are just too high - people just go
no one’s gonna apply at an embassy, wait, wait, wait, and then accept being politely rejected
they come to the door - its desperation and hope - anything has to be better than…
before they cross they are not americans and so arent covered by the constitution.
after they cross the rules are unclear, contradictory and problematic - clearly open to perverse and barbaric interpretation.
many logistical issues like languages, any right to representation, what is done with them while cases are pending, the children, costs, etc
they came on boats
cubans got ‘special’ treatments - wet foot / dry foot
so many hatians tried that eventually their boats were used as an example (and a deterrent) and turned back (if anyone was granted asylum interviews on the boat at all)
these days they are coming mostly by land - new logistics
while their feet are in mexico or canada their status is different than the moment they cross
and while they are in mexico or canada we have no desire to sort of set up shop on that side of the border to begin the interview process, and if rejected leave them to mexico or canada
humanity usually suffers at the hands of politics
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
illegal immigrants “infest our Country”
if this isn’t a direct quote from Mein Kampf, it’s pretty close. https://t.co/intrGkbq1E— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) June 19, 2018
he’s still flailing:
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
(^^complete and utter bullshit)
#CHANGETHELAWS Now is the best opportunity ever for Congress to change the ridiculous and obsolete laws on immigration. Get it done, always keeping in mind that we must have strong border security.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
(^^hey moron…whatever happened to “only *I* can fix it”?)
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
#CHANGETHELAWS Now is the best opportunity ever for Congress to change the ridiculous and obsolete laws on immigration. Get it done, always keeping in mind that we must have strong border security.
— Donald J. Trump
Change what law? How?
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.
— Donald J. Trump
Of course, because we have unlimited resources to do so.
/
re: #502 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
even if they fix it tomorrow, they have to me made to own what they have done so far.
they could have stopped it on day one, with the first child
they could have stopped it each and every single day since
instead they acquiesced, emboldened, enabled, hid
others outright supported it
and i dont just mean congress and the other parts of the admin
the republican party admin, the big profile names, the big wigs, the sunday show guests, ICE agents and guards
damn right they own it
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.
— Donald J. Trump
Oh, OK, so the cages I mean chain linked fences are perfectly fine.
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as we watch donald trump call immigrants an infestation, echoing hitler, never forget that obama wore a tan suit once
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) June 19, 2018
re: #527 jaunte
Can someone please tweet to Trump that MS-13 is a homegrown gang? It’s as American as the Bloods or the Crips or the KKK.
re: #503 fern01
Just saw this - now 381 almost 1.5%. Is this because of his tarriff policies or because he and his administration are stealing children from their parents and keeping them in cages
likely the tariffs
sad that markets probably wont react to the children
re: #534 Backwoods_Sleuth
And ate arugula and was Black!!!
He again is lying to his cult about what illegal immigration is. It’s NOT a criminal matter. If I told you, we should arrest every last person who has minor driving violations, you’d cal me crazy and you’d call me Stalin if i told oyu that you should lose your kids over it.
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
None of those 12K children should be put in cages.
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
We must always arrest people coming into our Country illegally. Of the 12,000 children, 10,000 are being sent by their parents on a very dangerous trip, and only 2000 are with their parents, many of whom have tried to enter our Country illegally on numerous occasions.
— Donald J. Trump
I’m gonna go way out on a limb here, but I suspect he just pulled these numbers right out of his a*$.
My guess is we start seeing armbands pop up in the next 6 months or so.
How Mike Pence got to be vice-president:
SCOOP: In 1995, Russian and American social conservatives plotted out what would, during the 2016 election, become the main link between U.S. Christian fundamentalists and those in Moscow.
We obtained the notes from that very first meeting: https://t.co/z9cIvZ8Wb3 pic.twitter.com/KK77roiK6P— Casey Michel (@cjcmichel) June 19, 2018
Thread https://t.co/1N1OmaIxDo
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) June 19, 2018
re: #528 Backwoods_Sleuth
Now is the best opportunity ever for Congress to change the ridiculous and obsolete laws on immigration
This is a pretty sweeping claim, that our immigration laws are “ridiculous” and “obsolete”. Which laws in particular are they and how should they be changed, sir?
re: #525 Weaselone
All 49 Democrats and Independents have signed onto Feinstein’s bill. All it takes is 2 of the Republican Senators who have already announced retirement to sign on to make it passable. Then all Mitch has to do is let it be brought to a vote and the Republicans avoid filibustering it to get it through the Senate. They can then throw up their hands and blame the RINOs for passing it.
Does anyone have a link to the Feinstein bill?
re: #524 HappyWarrior
Sociopaths like Tucker.
And Ann Coulter who is claiming that the migrant children are actors. Unbelievable!
re: #525 Weaselone
All 49 Democrats and Independents have signed onto Feinstein’s bill. All it takes is 2 of the Republican Senators who have already announced retirement to sign on to make it passable. Then all Mitch has to do is let it be brought to a vote and the Republicans avoid filibustering it to get it through the Senate. They can then throw up their hands and blame the RINOs for passing it.
So no GOPers have signed on yet?
Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
Still fake news. Crime in Germany is at its lowest in 25 years https://t.co/V7b3S728Wi https://t.co/S1BVXi62vq
— Alberto Nardelli (@AlbertoNardelli) June 19, 2018
The GOP are not populists:
The administration is using the very unpopular policy of family separation as leverage to get money for the very unpopular policy of building a wall.
— Geoffrey Skelley is watching the World Cup⚽️ (@geoffreyvs) June 19, 2018
modern GOP has been here repeatedly. in 2011, they threatened unpopular debt crisis as leverage to get unpopular budget cuts. ending up backing down on both because…they were unpopular https://t.co/VfAO2ygjy2
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) June 19, 2018
re: #523 William Lewis
A few of their pieces look functional, but most there are wall hangers (stainless steel, decorative “stuff”). I find Kult of Athena far more fun to search through, especially when limiting the search to “battle ready”. Not that I’ll ever be fighting with sword or saber but for steel on steel exercise or cutting stuff (milk bottles & pool noodles forex :D), you need properly forged, quenched and tempered steel in the blade.
i carried a sword-cane for a while
as the one defense skill i have
and i was pretty good with it
so unless it’s a bad guy with a gun i might have a chance
re: #550 jaunte
The GOP are not populists:
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re: #543 Dave In Austin
My guess is we start seeing armbands pop up in the next 6 months or so.
Lapel pins.
Indeed, it’s been that way for quite a few years now.
America: love it or leave it. pic.twitter.com/O2J3v8aajL
— 𝔾𝕦𝕤 (@Gus_802) June 19, 2018
re: #548 Sir John Barron
So no GOPers have signed on yet?
Nope, but Ted Cruz has proposed a dumpster of a bill that he hopes will be confused for the Democratic one.
re: #539 HappyWarrior
He again is lying to his cult about what illegal immigration is. It’s NOT a criminal matter. If I told you, we should arrest every last person who has minor driving violations, you’d cal me crazy and you’d call me Stalin if i told oyu that you should lose your kids over it.
Yep. That’s always been my argument to people who scream about illegal immigration. It’s a misdemeanor!
re: #556 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Yep. That’s always been my argument to people who scream about illegal immigration. It’s a misdemeanor!
The way these ignorant fucks talk, tehy think it’s like robbing a bank. Not even fucking close and don’t get me started on the people who insist they’re just mooching off the public dole. The immigrants I know are some of the hardest working men and women I know. They’re not lazy like Trump is.
re: #557 HappyWarrior
The way these ignorant fucks talk, tehy think it’s like robbing a bank. Not even fucking close and don’t get me started on the people who insist they’re just mooching off the public dole. The immigrants I know are some of the hardest working men and women I know. They’re not lazy like Trump is.
And, they, by law, cannot mooch.
re: #549 Backwoods_Sleuth
Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted
Ah, we’re back to the “the reported numbers are not the real numbers” scam again, only this time applied to Germany.
re: #558 Belafon
And, they, by law, cannot mooch.
But they’ve been voting! // Just ask some random right wing hack I found!
re: #539 HappyWarrior
He again is lying to his cult about what illegal immigration is. It’s NOT a criminal matter. If I told you, we should arrest every last person who has minor driving violations, you’d cal me crazy and you’d call me Stalin if i told oyu that you should lose your kids over it.
i could get behind this /// .5
re: #559 Sir John Barron
Ah, we’re back to the “the reported numbers are not the real numbers” scam again, only this time applied to Germany.
I wish Merkel would tell him to shut his fucking mouth in the most German way possible.
re: #525 Weaselone
All 49 Democrats and Independents have signed onto Feinstein’s bill. All it takes is 2 of the Republican Senators who have already announced retirement to sign on to make it passable. Then all Mitch has to do is let it be brought to a vote and the Republicans avoid filibustering it to get it through the Senate. They can then throw up their hands and blame the RINOs for passing it.
They won’t because deep down inside every Republican Senator is a racist.
Meet the Trump Supporters.
Taken from a Pro-Trump FB Page.
Trigger warning: These are not nice people. pic.twitter.com/gU1SzONCEK— Millennial Politics (@MillenPolitics) June 19, 2018
re: #540 Belafon
None of those 12K children should be put in cages.
you want to stop/slow migration? answer the question why
what is it that motivates people to point their kids towards the USA and say “you go. go without us.”
8000 of them if you can believe his numbers
slamming the door at the border wont stop it
a chance at here is still better than the reality of where they are coming from
A follower of mine, now blocked with impunity started off one of his tweets with, “I’m not racist but” and proceeded to drop a racist tweet about XXXTentacion’s death.
I’m sick of this constant stream of bullshit.
re: #564 The Vicious Babushka
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And that right there is why I will NEVER feel sorry or try to understand Trump supporters. That’s someone’s fucking child. He’s not an animal. He’s got a name. He’s got people who love him. He’s a fucking human being.
re: #546 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Does anyone have a link to the Feinstein bill?
#TheFinalCountdown
This squirrel must be eating the most delicious nut in the world..
Source; babyanimalgifs pic.twitter.com/8gVEf2oNpt— The Invisible Man (@invisibleman_17) June 19, 2018
re: #566 plansbandc
A follower of mine, now blocked with impunity started off one of his tweets with, “I’m not racist but” and proceeded to drop a racist tweet about XXXTentacion’s death.
I’m sick of this constant stream of bullshit.
My brother was telling me about that during our hike yesterday. Guy was just 20 years old and people just cavalierly laughing at his death.
re: #521 HappyWarrior
Ivanka Trump is a fraud.
She would never stand on her own and go against daddy Trump.
This politics stuff is just a lark…a whole future awaits and she needs the connection to Daddy’s purse strings.
re: #550 jaunte
The GOP are not populists:
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the modern gop is
- periodically manages to convince enough saps to vote for them
- when in office behave as if they know whats best for everybody
- thus screwing their voting base in the process
- sadly, the voting base is willingly ill informed and insane (over and over expecting a different result)
I have never been so angry, sad, and frustrated at the direction of my country.
re: #568 dangerman
Thanks so much!
Trump wouldn’t sign it if it passed because it doesn’t address EVERYTHING. Gah. I despise that man and his minions.
It’s not just Trump. There’s an inherent ugliness in so much of our fellow countrymen and women that won’t die with Trump’s departure.
re: #574 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Thanks so much!
Trump wouldn’t sign it if it passed because it doesn’t address EVERYTHING. Gah. I despise that man and his minions.
BTW thanks for liking my rant yesterday on FB. Meant a lot as did seeing some of my family from both mom and dad’s side agree.
re: #555 Belafon
Nope, but Ted Cruz has proposed a dumpster of a bill that he hopes will be confused for the Democratic one.
i cant find a link to any actual cruz bill
he did say
his proposal would double the number of federal immigration judges; authorize new temporary shelters that can accommodate families; and mandate that families immigrating illegally be kept together, absent criminal conduct or threat of harm to the children.
re: #557 HappyWarrior
The way these ignorant fucks talk, tehy think it’s like robbing a bank. Not even fucking close and don’t get me started on the people who insist they’re just mooching off the public dole. The immigrants I know are some of the hardest working men and women I know. They’re not lazy like Trump is.
that’s why they are so dead set against the dreamers
rule of law is rule of law goddammit! no exceptions.*
(except for paul manafort)
*Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
re: #576 HappyWarrior
BTW thanks for liking my rant yesterday on FB. Meant a lot as did seeing some of my family from both mom and dad’s side agree.
Always. You have much wisdom, grasshopper.
re: #558 Belafon
And, they, by law, cannot mooch.
unless, you know, there’s a democrat sitting at the desk at “the welfare office” and signs em up anyway, then tells them to go to the food stamp office and do the same, and then housing and …..
re: #579 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Always. You have much wisdom, grasshopper.
Thanks. I try to not use memes to argue. What oyu’re going to getting from me is from the heart. Sometimes I’ll have errors but it’s always from the heart.
re: #573 HappyWarrior
I have never been so angry, sad, and frustrated at the direction of my country.
Most of us here, including you, were worried about the direction of our country years ago. It had to get this bad for a whole lot of other people to start paying attention and to change their attitudes. People like those in the fourth estate. Too many were ok with their comfort that they weren’t looking at where we were heading.
We can fix it, but like anything where you wait too long, the cost is way higher than it should have been.
re: #581 HappyWarrior
Thanks. I try to not use memes to argue. What oyu’re going to getting from me is from the heart. Sometimes I’ll have errors but it’s always from the heart.
It’s one of the things I really admire about you. :-)
re: #582 Belafon
Most of us here, including you, were worried about the direction of our country years ago. It had to get this bad for a whole lot of other people to start paying attention and to change their attitudes. People like those in the fourth estate. Too many were ok with their comfort that they weren’t looking at where we were heading.
We can fix it, but like anything where you wait too long, the cost is way higher than it should have been.
Yep. That’s why I have no intention to leave. This is my coutnry too.
re: #583 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
It’s one of the things I really admire about you. :-)
Danke.
re: #577 dangerman
i cant find a link to any actual cruz bill
he did say
He can bullshit whatever he wants but he knows that Denny The Child Molester’s Rule is still the standard operating procedure in the Republican House and it won’t pass.
re: #566 plansbandc
A follower of mine, now blocked with impunity started off one of his tweets with, “I’m not racist but” and proceeded to drop a racist tweet about XXXTentacion’s death.
I’m sick of this constant stream of bullshit.
folks should learn that using “but” negates everything they just said
always always always replace “but” with “and” see if it still works
if not, well then you don’t have it
(yes it’s a peeve)
re: #574 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Thanks so much!
Trump wouldn’t sign it if it passed because it doesn’t address EVERYTHING. Gah. I despise that man and his minions.
single issue bills expose politicans for the liars that they are
re: #435 A Mom Anon
I’m done being nice. You voted for this Shitshow, I cannot count you as a person of good intent or anything else. If you can do the giant stretch it takes to try to justify this, I want zero to do with you. I might even go so far as to call you an “animal”, but that would be an insult to actual creatures with a soul. So I think I’ll stick with more precise terms, like psychopath.
Cut Trump supporters off: The horror of migrant kids taken from parents demands personal action
Personal action is necessary. Do not give aid and comfort to the Trump supporters in your lives
CHAUNCEY DEVEGA
re: #577 dangerman
i cant find a link to any actual cruz bill
he did say
•Providing for expedited processing and review of asylum cases so that — within 14 days — those who meet the legal standards will be granted asylum and those who do not will be immediately returned to their home countries.
I doubt 750 judges are going to do much to make that happen.
re: #589 BigPapa
Cut Trump supporters off: The horror of migrant kids taken from parents demands personal action
Personal action is necessary. Do not give aid and comfort to the Trump supporters in your lives
CHAUNCEY DEVEGA
Saw that you saw my FB post too, thanks, didn’t get any bites from the Trumpers I know. Too bad, I really wanted to engage them. I don’t think I’m going to get anything. I’ve pointed out to Trumpers on other pages that it’s a civil violation and that many of the detained are in fact asylum seekers.
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it would be to custom make some postcards with that picture of the crying child on them.
Vistaprint has the cheapest prices I’ve found. And they do a good job.
re: #570 HappyWarrior
My brother was telling me about that during our hike yesterday. Guy was just 20 years old and people just cavalierly laughing at his death.
I’m not laughing at his death, but he was not a good guy. He beat his pregnant ex girlfriend to within an inch of her life and kept her captive. She’s still having surgeries to deal with it. He also severely beat a man who was in the same holding cell as him because he thought he was gay. When media wrote about his violent history he would go on social media and double down. No remorse.
The way some people are supporting him post mortem has been extremely dismissive of his victims. The misogyny and homophobia are strong.
re: #594 JordanRules
I’m not laughing at his death, but he was not a good guy. He beat his pregnant ex girlfriend to within an inch of her life and kept her captive. She’s still having surgeries to deal with it. He also severely beat a man who was in the same holding cell as him because he thought he was gay. When media wrote about his violent history he would go on social media and double down. No remorse.
The way some people are supporting him post mortem has been extremely dismissive of his victims. The misogyny and homophobia are strong.
Oh no doubt. He was just saying that people shouldn’t celebrate a death like that with more ugliness. Your position is perfectly legit.
My wife bought me a package of the Dove Dark Chocolates. The wrapper of each contains some quote from a person that’s supposed to be inspirational. A couple of them are along the lines of “live your life so that you have no regrets.” I kind of think that people who have no regrets are people who didn’t try very hard.
I fear we’re going to witness an American genocide of Hispanics in our lifetimes.
The President of the United States just used the word “infest” to describe the immigrants who are coming to this nation…
“Infest our country” is literally a phrase the Nazis used in the 30s.
Immigrants are NOT rats or cockroaches, they are people!
I’m embarrassed!— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) June 19, 2018
re: #596 Belafon
My wife bought me a package of the Dove Dark Chocolates. The wrapper of each contains some quote from a person that’s supposed to be inspirational. A couple of them are along the lines of “live your life so that you have no regrets.” I kind of think that people who have no regrets are people who didn’t try very hard.
Life without regrets to me suggest you didn’t challenge your comforts.
re: #597 DodgerFan1988
I fear we’re going to witness an American genocide of Hispanics in our lifetimes.
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He’s gonna try.
re: #596 Belafon
My wife bought me a package of the Dove Dark Chocolates. The wrapper of each contains some quote from a person that’s supposed to be inspirational. A couple of them are along the lines of “live your life so that you have no regrets.” I kind of think that people who have no regrets are people who didn’t try very hard.
I think it is in the sense that you should not regret not having tried something…
re: #597 DodgerFan1988
I fear we’re going to witness an American genocide of Hispanics in our lifetimes.
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Is there a source which is a bit more independent?
The Trumpers always try to include token examples of Trump not being a total asshole to black people as proof somehow he’s not racist. Trump has been a racist against African-Americans don’t get me wrong but his primary ire has been about Hispanics.
re: #601 Teukka
Is there a source which is a bit more independent?
From horse’s ass itself.
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
re: #602 HappyWarrior
The Trumpers always try to include token examples of Trump not being a total asshole to black people as proof somehow he’s not racist. Trump has been a racist against African-Americans don’t get me wrong but his primary ire has been about Hispanics.
His most vocal ire has been voiced at immigrants, mainly those from Latin America.
re: #598 HappyWarrior
Life without regrets to me suggest you didn’t challenge your comforts.
Well, there are two types of regrets. There is the regret at not having done something with all the what might have been musings.
Then there is the regretting having done something ill conceived, like trying to jump off your roof onto a trampoline and breaking your neck.
You can stay well within your comfort zone and have many of the first type of regrets.
re: #604 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
His most vocal ire has been voiced at immigrants, mainly those from Latin America.
Yes.
re: #605 danarchy
Well, there are two types of regrets. There is the regret at not having done something with all the what might have been musings.
Then there is the regretting having done something ill conceived, like trying to jump off your roof onto a trampoline and breaking your neck.
You can stay well within your comfort zone and have many of the first type of regrets.
Agree.
re: #605 danarchy
Well, there are two types of regrets. There is the regret at not having done something with all the what might have been musings.
Then there is the regretting having done something ill conceived, like trying to jump off your roof onto a trampoline and breaking your neck.
You can stay well within your comfort zone and have many of the first type of regrets.
I have an ample share of both…
Apologies.
To fictional villains everywhere.#KeepFamilesTogether #ResignNielsen
Via Tom Adelsbach pic.twitter.com/JhUEpzQGHG— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) June 19, 2018
re: #595 HappyWarrior
Oh no doubt. He was just saying that people shouldn’t celebrate a death like that with more ugliness. Your position is perfectly legit.
And that’s definitely not my kind of energy but a lot of people have been pointing out the extreme hypocrisy (with receipts) of some of the folks who are now touting this extreme respectability narrative where they don’t give a damn if people celebrate a racists death (or wish it on them ala George Zimmerman) but somehow women and gay people never rate. It’s been an interesting conversation to watch. Again, not my personal choice but there’s a more complicated thread there.
re: #609 MsJ
It’s Roger Radcliffe’s fault that i had to make those puppies into a coat!
re: #610 JordanRules
And that’s definitely not my kind of energy but a lot of people have been pointing out the extreme hypocrisy (with receipts) of some of the folks who are now touting this extreme respectability narrative where they don’t give a damn if people celebrate a racists death (or wish it on them ala George Zimmerman) but somehow women and gay people never rate. It’s been an interesting conversation to watch. Again, not my personal choice but there’s a more complicated thread there.
I know. What my brotehr was witnessing was racism directed at the man or crass remarks because of his profession.
re: #611 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It’s Roger Radcliffe’s fault that i had to make those puppies into a coat!
Next up, we try understanding the Evil Queen’s motivation and why killing your step daughter with a poison apple isn’t alway wrong//
I honestly don’t want to hear lecturing about parenting from an administration whose President barely sees his own son.
re: #613 HappyWarrior
Next up, we try understanding the Evil Queen’s motivation and why killing your step daughter with a poison apple isn’t alway wrong//
If you don’t want to get killed by a poison apple, then don’t enter the Magic Kingdom illegally!
re: #614 HappyWarrior
I honestly don’t want to hear lecturing about parenting from an administration whose President barely sees his own son.
again, it is just flailing around for talking points to distract from the intentional inhumanity of what they are doing
re: #615 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If you don’t want to get killed by a poison apple, then don’t enter the Magic Kingdom illegally!
All we’re saying is that we need to understand the Queen’s anxiety about having her step daughter be more beautiful than she was. Instead of trusting the beautiful princess who was kind ot the forest creatures and dwarves, think about the queen, she was getting old and didn’t want to lose her beauty!
re: #616 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
again, it is just flailing around for talking points to distract from the intentional inhumanity of what they are doing
Oh I know but I want someone to point out the her that Trump’s a shitty excuse for a father.
You know who’s been silent as hell on this? Ron Paul. Mr. I made my whole career acting like any government involvement was the worst evil thing ever. Of course, as I said yesterday that the Paul family’s not so little secret is that they don’t care about the liberty of non white people especially ones that aren’t citizens.
So, as I understand it:
Trump has imposed vicious border policies partly to fire up the base, because his big “win” — the tax cut — is still unpopular
Now Republicans may try to repeal Obamacare again, partly to fire up the base, because family separations are so unpopular— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) June 19, 2018
The circle of fuckedupness.
re: #621 JordanRules
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The circle of fuckedupness.
The Republican Base is the cause of so many of our problems. They’re heartless pieces of shit.
re: #581 HappyWarrior
Thanks. I try to not use memes to argue. What oyu’re going to getting from me is from the heart. Sometimes I’ll have errors but it’s always from the heart.
I “liked” it, too. Guess who is retired cynic?
MUST WATCH: Last night, Chadwick Boseman gave his Best Hero Award for Black Panther to James Shaw Jr., the Waffle House shooting hero, who was sitting in the audience at the #MTVAwards. 😭😭😭
pic.twitter.com/SoAnETf0V1— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) June 19, 2018
re: #276 Targetpractice
You really believe that Republicans have the stomach to continue this inhumane policy all the way through November? I doubt it. This is not a win for them even if their base is ecstatic about harassing Brown people.
re: #625 Patricia Kayden
You really believe that Republicans have the stomach to continue this inhumane policy all the way through November? I doubt it. This is not a win for them even if their base is ecstatic about harassing Brown people.
Don’t underestimate their slavish loyalty to Trump.
Fascinating dispatch from Trump Country (not the fairy tale Trump country of Salena Zito, but the REAL Trump country: rich retirees who golf and watch Fox News all day). https://t.co/kl9WGubGdf
— Ben Yelin (@byelin) June 19, 2018
re: #627 HappyWarrior
67% of Americans disapprove of this policy now and I can’t see that percentage going down as we get more images/audio of children crying for their parents over the next few weeks. The Republican base isn’t anywhere near to being the majority of Americans. From now until November, every Republican in office is going to have to defend this travesty and there is no defense.
re: #604 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
His most vocal ire has been voiced at immigrants, mainly those from Latin America.
Let’s also not forget all those other “shithole” countries.
re: #625 Patricia Kayden
You really believe that Republicans have the stomach to continue this inhumane policy all the way through November? I doubt it. This is not a win for them even if their base is ecstatic about harassing Brown people.
I believe they’ll start walking it back on the low within a week. Trump cannot handle the thought that he’s not the most popular girl at the prom.
On the other hand, I read yesterday that Trump doesn’t want to compromise because he thinks it’ll make him look weak. So he may just be stupid enough to really wreck the midterms.
It’s an internal battle between the Big Tough Guy and the Needy Narcissist.
Happy #Juneteenth: The African-American Holiday Everyone Should Celebrate But Doesn’t#Juneteenth2018 https://t.co/E1XYPGw5xT
— Eric Wolfson (@EricWolfson) June 19, 2018
“Juneteenth is a time to recommit ourselves to the work that remains undone. We remember that even in the darkest hours, there is cause to hope for tomorrow’s light.” —@BarackObama marking Juneteenth in 2016
— The Obama Foundation (@ObamaFoundation) June 19, 2018
re: #624 JordanRules
Did you catch what Michael B. Jordan said: “I’m shocked that I won this award for Best Villain. I thought for sure Roseanne had that in the bag.”
re: #621 JordanRules
So, as I understand it:
Trump has imposed vicious border policies partly to fire up the base, because his big “win” — the tax cut — is still unpopular
Now Republicans may try to repeal Obamacare again, partly to fire up the base, because family separations are so unpopular
failing that, we go to war, always a winner
re: #634 Belafon
Did you catch what Michael B. Jordan said: “I’m shocked that I won this award for Best Villain. I thought for sure Roseanne had that in the bag.”
I did! Pitch perfect.
re: #630 Patricia Kayden
67% of Americans disapprove of this policy now and I can’t see that percentage going down as we get more images/audio of children crying for their parents over the next few weeks. The Republican base isn’t anywhere near to being the majority of Americans. From now until November, every Republican in office is going to have to defend this travesty and there is no defense.
I agree but you’ve seen what happens to GOP incumbents who speak out against Trump. They’re afraid of his wrath and base.
re: #616 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
again, it is just flailing around for talking points to distract from the intentional inhumanity of what they are doing
…and russiagate
…and puerto rico
re: #635 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Hmmmm. The days when Bush and Cheney could lie us into a war (mostly because we were traumatized by 9/11) are hopefully well behind us. The good thing about Trump is that he has lied so much that most of us don’t believe a word he says about anything. There is no way we would give him the benefit of the doubt if he started an (unnecessary) war.
re: #630 Patricia Kayden
67% of Americans disapprove of this policy now and I can’t see that percentage going down as we get more images/audio of children crying for their parents over the next few weeks. The Republican base isn’t anywhere near to being the majority of Americans. From now until November, every Republican in office is going to have to defend this travesty and there is no defense.
This represents a point where he went too far in pleasing his base and basically offended everybody else, even those who generally support his immigration policies.
The GOP needs to be made to own up to this, even if they fix it tomorrow.
They need to own it until every single child is reunited with their families.
Which means forever, as the damage is already permanent in too many cases.
What I wish we could all do to blow away all of this news and heat:
re: #621 JordanRules
So, as I understand it:
Trump has imposed vicious border policies partly to fire up the base, because his big “win” — the tax cut — is still unpopular
Now Republicans may try to repeal Obamacare again, partly to fire up the base, because family separations are so unpopular
The circle of fuckedupness.
unpopularism
re: #635 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
failing that, we go to war, always a winner
Yup!
And we’re so beyond our usual and many times dysfunctional foreign policy positions that I can’t even begin to guess who the war would be with.
re: #635 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
failing that, we go to war, always a winner
And failing that, global thermonuclear war. That’ll teach them…
Dunno if ///
As long as Fox News tells him he’s winning and the GOP keeps kissing his ass, Trump won’t change these policies.
re: #641 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“The GOP needs to be made to own up to this, even if they fix it tomorrow.”
YEP. To be honest, I don’t see how Republicans live this anti-family, immoral, inhumane policy down. Even if Trump reverses it today, the damage is forever — not only for the impacted families but for the GOP.
Congressional Republicans could have stood up to him and passed a veto-proof bill but they won’t even do that.
re: #632 makeitstop
I’m afraid that they will start walking it back publicly but not really stop doing it.
re: #628 JordanRules
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i hread this yesterday
they think this area could put rick scott over the top
re: #640 Patricia Kayden
Hmmmm. The days when Bush and Cheney could lie us into a war (mostly because we were traumatized by 9/11) are hopefully well behind us. The good thing about Trump is that he has lied so much that most of us don’t believe a word he says about anything. There is no way we would give him the benefit of the doubt if he started an (unnecessary) war.
Media went along with Bush for fear that he might not have been lying and they did not want to be seen as insufficiently patriotic.
They will go along with Trump because wars are good for ratings.
And people will literally die because they know it will keep viewers tuned in.
re: #647 Patricia Kayden
“The GOP needs to be made to own up to this, even if they fix it tomorrow.”
YEP. To be honest, I don’t see how Republicans live this anti-family, immoral, inhumane policy down. Even if Trump reverses it today, the damage is forever — not only for the impacted families but for the GOP.
Congressional Republicans could have stood up to him and passed a veto-proof bill but they won’t even do that.
re: #649 dangerman
i hread this yesterday
they think this area could put rick scott over the top
Yeah. A thoroughly corrupt, criminal bastard to lead them. Sounds about right (or white).
re: #647 Patricia Kayden
“The GOP needs to be made to own up to this, even if they fix it tomorrow.”
YEP. To be honest, I don’t see how Republicans live this anti-family, immoral, inhumane policy down. Even if Trump reverses it today, the damage is forever — not only for the impacted families but for the GOP.
Congressional Republicans could have stood up to him and passed a veto-proof bill but they won’t even do that.
But then they’d have to enforce it if he didn’t follow it, and there’s currently only one mechanism for that.
re: #648 JordanRules
I’m afraid that they will start walking it back publicly but not really stop doing it.
That might be more difficult than they think.
This is THE story everywhere - even the more non-political folks on Facebook are putting up ‘I don’t usually post political stuff, but…’ posts. It’s caught the attention of a lot of people who aren’t watching this administration like a hawk, like we do here.
And the media smells a story. Just about every network had anchors on the border last night.
Not going away. And if they try to fake it, I think they’ll be caught ass-out trying to do it.
They’re definitely feeling the heat in Congress…
NEW: Sen. Hatch tells @NBCNews that he is circulating a letter for Republican and Democrat Senators to sign calling for AG sessions to apply a moratorium on family separations at the border until Congress can act - @frankthorp
— NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics) June 19, 2018
re: #654 makeitstop
This is THE story everywhere - even the more non-political folks on Facebook are putting up ‘I don’t usually post political stuff, but…’ posts. It’s caught the attention of a lot of people who aren’t watching this administration like a hawk, like we do here.
Dead school kids shut down the NRA’s ability to control the narrative
Crying refugee/immigrant kids shut down the GOP’s ability to do so.
re: #656 makeitstop
Sen. Hatch tells @NBCNews that he is circulating a letter for Republican and Democrat Senators to sign calling for AG sessions to apply a moratorium on family separations at the border until Congress can act ]
and this will be seen as a “betrayal” by the base ,
win-win situation for the rest of us…
The FCC may let Sinclair Broadcasting Group become the largest owner of local TV stations in history.
Sinclair has been exposed for repeatedly forcing local broadcasters to run corporate-scripted propaganda. We’re asking the FCC to block the merger.https://t.co/mjwS755i4e— ACLU (@ACLU) June 19, 2018
re: #658 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and this will be seen as a “betrayal” by the base ,
win-win situation for the rest of us…
I’m hoping for injuries on both sides. :)
re: #656 makeitstop
They’re definitely feeling the heat in Congress…
Or, Congress could act, because Jeff isn’t going to stop.
re: #624 JordanRules
Shannon Watts ✔
@shannonrwatts
MUST WATCH: Last night, Chadwick Boseman gave his Best Hero Award for Black Panther to James Shaw Jr., the Waffle House shooting hero, who was sitting in the audience at the #MTVAwards. 😭😭😭
That was a great thing to do. Impressive.
Thought this was a typical trumpster response and a very well thought out slap down of that response from one of our allies.
Well, I have words….. you would rather have the American tax payers spent up to $30,000 per illegal child than to help the millions of American children that are living in poverty in the inner cities? Anyway, this has been going on for many , many years and the media has just now chosen to carry on about it. You have no idea the cost to the American tax payer for these illegals and I think that is a shame! Our American children should come first and our poor elderly.
Here’s a way to save the supposed $30K — don’t separate the child from their parents in the first place. Stop criminalizing the asylum process. And no - the current policy of immediately separating children from parents has not been going on for many years. This is a new “enforcement” tactic by the AG and Trump administration to try to blackmail Democrats into a agreeing to build a completely useless “wall” to keep the brown people out. You want to see a waste of money? That stupid wall is basically just throwing money down the drain.
The fact that you or anyone would put a price on the trauma inflicted upon a child by forcibly removing them from their parents and then housing them in a CAGE is simply appalling. Our immigration process needs to be reformed to disincentivize illegally crossing the border in order to get the asylum process started. That is why this is happening — an illegal crossing is the only practical way to actually get your asylum case heard. You want to discuss positive ways to reform our system? I’m all for it. You want to criminalize other human beings and rip their children away from them? That is simply disgusting.
As for the other people who need help in this country - absolutely, we should be taking care of our own poverty stricken children and elderly. And veterans, and sick, and disabled. And everyone else that you probably don’t crow about until you need to use them as a tool in an argument about undocumented immigrants.
Once I see the Trump supporters getting serious about helping the poor, I’ll start listening. Instead, Trump and his ilk prefer to shower tax cuts on the wealthy, destroy healthcare for the poor and middle class, and cut food stamps for those poor and elderly people you seem to care about so much. If you support those policies, I have to wonder why you use those same poor and elderly as a tool to gain empathy for your argument against helping underage undocumented immigrants.
In fact, I just saw a meme on your page that lambasts poor people in this country, which suggests to me your opinion doesn’t really stem from a place of concern for those less fortunate.
JUST IN: GOP governor recalls National Guard from border over Trump family separation policy https://t.co/pevPRPacOJ pic.twitter.com/Vfvdg6Ux0B
— The Hill (@thehill) June 19, 2018
Washington has failed again & again to deliver needed immigration reform - Congress and the administration must step up and work together to fix our broken system. Immigration enforcement efforts should focus on criminals, not separating innocent children from their families.
— Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) June 18, 2018
Until this policy of separating children from their families has been rescinded, Maryland will not deploy any National Guard resources to the border. Earlier this morning, I ordered our 4 crewmembers & helicopter to immediately return from where they were stationed in New Mexico. https://t.co/TEfkUXF7ZN
— Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) June 19, 2018
David Perdue, at presser with GOP senators on a spending cut package, gets bombarded by questions about separation of children at border. He jumps in, says he wants to focus on the debt crisis and not see his press conference hijacked by the “current shiny object of the day”
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) June 19, 2018
Update on toddlers and girls: @HHSGov just offered me photos of facilities with girls and toddlers from 2016, long before zero tolerance was enacted.
I said no thanks.
Still trying to get in.— Jacob Soboroff (@jacobsoboroff) June 19, 2018
re: #665 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
“What’s a bunch of children when the rich just don’t have enough money?”
Confirmed that Donald Trump Jr. dropped out of George P. Bush’s fundraiser, warned George P a few weeks ago that if Jeb didn’t stop attacking POTUS there woudl be problems, per source. As first reported by @kaitlancollins & @jonathanvswan.
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) June 19, 2018
Don Jr embracing the proposition that the son shares responsibility for the father’s sins does not seem especially smart to me https://t.co/yrKuDKOsdY
— chris hooks (@cd_hooks) June 19, 2018
re: #632 makeitstop
I believe they’ll start walking it back on the low within a week. Trump cannot handle the thought that he’s not the most popular girl at the prom.
On the other hand, I read yesterday that Trump doesn’t want to compromise because he thinks it’ll make him look weak. So he may just be stupid enough to really wreck the midterms.
It’s an internal battle between the Big Tough Guy and the Needy Narcissist.
I hope Trump and the Republicans do whatever they can to make them as hated as humanly possible so they really help force a Republican drubbing come November.
And as far as Trump worried about looking weak…that is the least of his problems. He has a whole bunch of looks that are not going to help him.
He may have conned a bunch of people in the election race, but the reality of Trump is now clear. The Republicans are going to have to move away from him in the elections and they will not be able to because he will tear into them. A prefect setup for an election ass kicking.
Just needed to get the vote out. I have a feeling Trump is motivating a group of voters that want to see him and the Republicans gone that may have sat out or was :meh: about Hillary.
Thread from 2017.
Spent Juneteenth rereading ads taken out by formerly enslaved ppl searching for their family. Freedom was often accompanied by so much grief pic.twitter.com/bpvxAN74bu
— Clint Smith (@ClintSmithIII) June 19, 2017
— Clint Smith (@ClintSmithIII) June 19, 2017
Registering people to vote today at zoo miami!! Come on over!! pic.twitter.com/ZrUEjLmx0w
— Delaney Tarr (@delaneytarr) June 19, 2018
re: #666 JordanRules
Republicans think children ripped from their parents arms and thrown into cages is a “shiny object”. That tells you everything about the psychopaths that are Republicans. #VoteThemAllOut
And #WhereAreTheGirls— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) June 19, 2018
Yesterday I posted on Facebook how listening to even half of that audio of the detained kids broke me. There was the usual partisan arguing on the thread, but then I just got this response from a bilingual friend:
“It’s worse if you know the language.”— 🎶Hot Claws In The City🎶 (@Notintheface1) June 19, 2018
The New York Times has issued a statement on why it complied with a White House request not to use audio of its Stephen Miller interview on “The Daily” podcast. pic.twitter.com/Lzo3qVHVg6
— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) June 19, 2018
re: #674 JordanRules
May I ask what’s in the picture?
Time to fire Sessions
End the Mueller investigation
You can’t obstruct something that was phony against you
The IG report gives @realDonaldTrump the truth to end it all.— Brad Parscale (@parscale) June 19, 2018
Trump’s campaign manager is urging the president to fire the attorney general https://t.co/4Z70rdgHtI
— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) June 19, 2018
insanity https://t.co/8cY61d5Val
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) June 19, 2018
Labour MP
Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2018
Inviting this abhorrent man to our country is a tacit endorsement of the unacceptable. Our silence is complicity. Shame on you Theresa May. https://t.co/uGGIkqlgJ0
— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) June 19, 2018
re: #656 makeitstop
They’re definitely feeling the heat in Congress…
NEW: Sen. Hatch tells @NBCNews that he is circulating a letter for Republican and Democrat Senators to sign calling for AG sessions to apply a moratorium on family separations at the border until Congress can act
100% dems on board with an actual bill
0 republicans
one republican writes a letter
re: #676 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
The dad thing is sessions should be fired. But not for this.
Catch-22.
Fuck.
Already getting bombarded for shitty policy, Donny decides he REALLY wants to help the GOP win in November:
Trump ‘loses temper’ and threatens government shutdown if border wall funding ‘is not robust enough’: GOP senator https://t.co/aAr55WcyvG
— Raw Story (@RawStory) June 19, 2018
re: #675 Belafon
May I ask what’s in the picture?
The NYT statement is screen capped and it basically says the WH didn’t agree to a podcast so since we didn’t specify the ground rules (even tho interview was on the record), we will not use the audio.
re: #669 ObserverArt
I hope Trump and the Republicans do whatever they can to make them as hated as humanly possible so they really help force a Republican drubbing come November.
And as far as Trump worried about looking weak…that is the least of his problems. He has a whole bunch of looks that are not going to help him.
He may have conned a bunch of people in the election race, but the reality of Trump is now clear. The Republicans are going to have to move away from him in the elections and they will not be able to because he will tear into them. A prefect setup for an election ass kicking.
Just needed to get the vote out. I have a feeling Trump is motivating a group of voters that want to see him and the Republicans gone that may have sat out or was :meh: about Hillary.
I said a long time ago that they were going to paint themselves into the Mother of All Corners. They’re afraid of pissing Trump and his cult off, so they’ll tacitly endorse terrible policy - which they will not be able to distance themselves from and will piss off people who hate the policies.
Their choice has always been to stand up to the Trump Cult, or alienate the moderates. Just about every one of them has made the wrong choice. And they’re laboring under the imbecilic notion that they’ll be able to thread that needle and keep their gigs.
That needle will be exponentially more difficult to thread as the midterms get closer.
This summer is going to be one hell of a ride
JUST IN: Trump threatens to shut down government over border wall funding: report https://t.co/LZ7Rb9UIqK pic.twitter.com/SX2OTxyLnV
— The Hill (@thehill) June 19, 2018
I’m imagining all the doctoral dissertations that will focus on the complete collapse of ethical behavior during the Trump administration
Halliburton stands to benefit from Zinke’s decisions. Zinke stands to benefit from a land deal funded by the chairman of Halliburton. Zinke’s foundation is helping the deal. The city planner says the developers might set aside space for a Zinke brewery. https://t.co/RH1zaTb4kX
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 19, 2018
re: #664 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Washington has failed again & again to deliver needed immigration reform - Congress and the administration must step up and work together to fix our broken system. Immigration enforcement efforts should focus on criminals, not separating innocent children from their families.
but those kiddies are all just baby MS-13 thugs!
re: #597 DodgerFan1988
I fear we’re going to witness an American genocide of Hispanics in our lifetimes.
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I feel that we shouldn’t borrow trouble. Work on stopping what’s happening now so it doesn’t come to that.
re: #668 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Confirmed that Donald Trump Jr. dropped out of George P. Bush’s fundraiser, warned George P a few weeks ago that if Jeb didn’t stop attacking POTUS there would be problems, per source. As first reported by
The thought of George P Bush being touted as some sort of voice of conscience and responsibility is bad enough…
re: #683 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
This summer is going to be one hell of a ride
Former U.S. Senate intelligence staffer asks court for Trump gag order https://t.co/B6FRTQct4k
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) June 19, 2018
re: #674 JordanRules
The New York Times has issued a statement on why it complied with a White House request not to use audio of its Stephen Miller interview on “The Daily” podcast.
this is the thinnest of hair splitting
you can use my words verbatim in print
not as they are coming out of my mouth
BREAKING: While the Trump Administration is savagely separating children from their mothers, Republicans quietly unveiled a new plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act – demonstrating that they’ll stop at nothing until people’s health care is destroyed.
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) June 19, 2018
re: #664 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I’s MD, Jake. Hogan is attempting to pseudo woo the mostly (D) state. He is not as big a shit as I had expected him to be; still won’t vote for him, but he hasn’t savaged the state too much.
re: #685 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I’m imagining all the doctoral dissertations that will focus on the complete collapse of ethical behavior during the Trump administration
In America, swamp drains you!!!
re: #676 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Trump’s campaign manager [parscale] is urging the president to fire the attorney general
while trump’s other campaign manager (paul manafort) is, well, you know…
re: #514 Backwoods_Sleuth
Stealing designs? Operating slave factories? So many things to choose from.
Separating migrant children from their parents is a policy straight from the pit of hell. https://t.co/678F8KTKPk
— Senator Bob Casey (@SenBobCasey) June 19, 2018
re: #669 ObserverArt
I hope Trump and the Republicans do whatever they can to make them as hated as humanly possible so they really help force a Republican drubbing come November.
…
i want to agree with the sentiment and still recognize that the cost in humanity is very high
re: #683 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Trump threatens to shut down government over border wall funding
Go for it, asshole.
From today.
My wife sent me this video of women outide the Reagan Building in DC standing up for the children Trump is abusing. pic.twitter.com/7yExb6eTTb
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) June 19, 2018
The State Department’s “Family Travel” Q & A is going about as well as you would expect pic.twitter.com/D5h6atvxzo
— jordan (@JordanUhl) June 19, 2018
re: #683 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Trump threatens to shut down government over border wall funding: report http://
let him and the whole party wear it around their neck, let it remind us of what they did to those children
do not let loose of this until every single kid has been returned to their family
which is basically forever because some of those kids are not coming back
BREAKING: Homestead shelter housing migrant children turns away Democratic lawmakers demanding information https://t.co/8kEBmPdSN9 pic.twitter.com/59oLaFI5BQ
— South Florida Sun Sentinel (@SunSentinel) June 19, 2018
re: #656 makeitstop
They’re definitely feeling the heat in Congress…
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Hatch’s church condemned this (to my surprise, given Mormon politics. I would have expected them to be silent).
re: #703 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
lwt him and the whole party wear it around their neck, let it remind us of what they did to those children
do not let loose of this until every single kid has been returned to their family
which is basically forever because some of those kids are not coming back
Yup.
EXCLUSIVE: Some Migrant parent-child separations can be permanent, says ex-ICE chief https://t.co/w3OJ7J5hXm
— Julia E. Ainsley (@JuliaEAinsley) June 19, 2018
For two days, residents in Portland have surrounded the local ICE detention center with a 24 hr encampment.
Tonight, without a fucking shred of irony, ICE agents complained those blocking their trucks were “keeping them apart from their families.”#SurroundICE#OccupyICEPDX pic.twitter.com/Rzo8rjJhE8— MIDWEST UNREST (@MW_Unrest) June 19, 2018
re: #691 dangerman
this is the thinnest of hair splitting
you can use my words verbatim in print
not as they are coming out of my mouth
Probably because Miller shot his mouth off and got a little too Nazi-real for the White House’s liking.
He’s a repulsive little Nazi brat who could stand a little - or a lot - of humbling. I will dance in the end zone when he’s brought low.
Ya know, The GOP could’ve said “Fuck that” when it came to letting Trump get the nomination. They knew better. Technically, they could’ve denied him the nomination but chose not to because of the suspected wrath from the red hats. After Nixon resigned, they feared the GOP was destroyed for decades. Turns out it was for only one election cycle.
re: #711 Ace Rothstein
Ya know, The GOP could’ve said “Fuck that” when it came to letting Trump get the nomination. They knew better. Technically, they could’ve denied him the nomination but chose not to because of the suspected wrath from the red hats. After Nixon resigned, they feared the GOP was destroyed for decades. Turns out it was for only one election cycle.
they knew that they could not win without him, and nobody else on the roster could appeal to his base like he did.
re: #712 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they knew that they could not win without him, and nobody else on the roster could appeal to his base like he did.
I don’t think that’s true. I think Kasich could have won.
re: #711 Ace Rothstein
Ya know, The GOP could’ve said “Fuck that” when it came to letting Trump get the nomination. They knew better. Technically, they could’ve denied him the nomination but chose not to because of the suspected wrath from the red hats. After Nixon resigned, they feared the GOP was destroyed for decades. Turns out it was for only one election cycle.
at that point i have (almost) no doubt they all thought he’d lose to clinton, so just let it play out…
Trump falsely claims that nobody released at the border returns for their immigration hearing; even anti-immigration groups say almost two-thirds of people return. If they don’t come back, he says, “You’ll have killings you’ll have murders you’ll have this you’ll have that.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 19, 2018
re: #704 JordanRules
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Just saw this on TV: Sen. Nelson seems quite pissed: said he’s going back to DC tonite to make a fuss over this issue in the Senate. Good luck to him (no snark).
Also, just head my wife screaming profane abuse at top volume: turns out (no surprise) she was listening to the Orange Anus spouting off his immigration bullshit to some small-business group (NFIB?) gathering. The usual crapola, but the crowd seemed to be eating it up……
re: #714 dangerman
at that point i have (almost) no doubt they all thought he’d lose to clinton, so just let it play out…
I think contrary to what Wendell said, they thought he’d lose and then they’d be able to act like he was a stupid freak accident and then they’d nominate some tool like Rubio in 2020 against Clinton.
re: #715 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Trump complains that immigrants are hiring “professional lawyers.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 19, 2018
Professional lawyers?
re: #713 HappyWarrior
I don’t think that’s true. I think Kasich could have won.
they did the math: with trump they had that 30% rabid base tied up, they just needed to convince 20% more or at least convince enough people to vote third party or not vote at all
Fun thought: While we may not be able to drive Trump from office (yet), we may very well succeed in driving him out of his narcissistic little mind.
Keep making noise. By the sound of that disjointed rant posted above, he’s hating his life right now.
Let’s do everything we can to make it worse.
re: #718 Ace Rothstein
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Professional lawyers?
As opposed to amateur lawyers? YEah he’s an enemy of democracy.
re: #719 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they did the math: with trump they had that 30% rabid base tied up, they just needed to convince 20% more or at least convince enough people to vote third party or not vote at all
You’re ignoring that Trump won due to a freak accident. Trump only won because he got enough votes in the right places. You’re giving them way way too much credit and ignoring that going into November of two years ago, the GOP was going to be eager to distance themselves from his mess.
re: #718 Ace Rothstein
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Professional lawyers?
Well, he just pretty much acknowledge that his lawyers of choice are unprofessional and corrupt
I’m sure Michael Cohen appreciates that
The president alleges that “professional lawyers” are giving asylum-seekers false stories to recite to judges. (Obviously, he’s not providing evidence for anything.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 19, 2018
Trump doesn’t want immigrants to have professional lawyers, because he can’t hire any for his own defense.
re: #717 HappyWarrior
I think contrary to what Wendell said, they thought he’d lose and then they’d be able to act like he was a stupid freak accident and then they’d nominate some tool like Rubio in 2020 against Clinton.
people did the math: Michael Moore also figured it out. All they had to do was win all the states they took under Romney (no problem with that) and pick up OH, MI, WI and PA.
With those electoral votes, they would not even need Florida.
So they decided it was worth the run…with anyone else, Hillary’s popular vote lead would have led to an EC win.
Trump proudly repeats his campaign-launching claim that countries are “sending” their non-finest citizens to the U.S., though there is obviously no such government conspiracy. He says he got criticized for this but it’s why he got elected.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 19, 2018
re: #701 dangerman
dow is still hovering in -350 territory
I’m amazed the bottom hasn’t dropped out yet. I wonder what Trump will have to do to cause that?
For anyone who wants a preview of how today’s hearing with the IG is going to go, here’s a story about the four GOP lawmakers Trump calls his “warriors.”
They’re all on the panel interviewing the IG today. https://t.co/Fl4uFGRLUC— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 19, 2018
Kyle is live tweeting the hearing. There’s a lot going on.
He also said COMEY’s decision to criticize Clinton publicly was wrong.
“Doing that publicly not only tarnishes an individual but raises questions of the fairness of justice and applications of various principles.”— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 19, 2018
Rep. Hakeem JEFFRIES calls House Republicans part of the “Cover-up Caucus”
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 19, 2018
Katie has quite a thread too.
Hearing room for the House Judiciary hearing on the OIG report is, predictably, insane. Public line is mega long, there’s an overflow room, press is packed in, there’s a mother with a *baby* in the crowd line and Trey Gowdy has a full beard. It’s lit, y’all.
— Katie Bo Williams (@KatieBoWill) June 19, 2018
re: #704 JordanRules
information.
The Democratic senator was denied entry to the Homestead Temporary Shelter for Unaccompanied Children.
“This is a federally contracted facility,” he said. “This is in my state of Florida. We are being denied entry to see about the welfare of children as well as to see about children separated from parents.”
The agency that oversees the facility — the Department of Health and Human Services — has also refused to explain to reporters the facility’s role in President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.
lets just be a tiny little bit careful here
federally contracted facility probably means its private
there are rules and procedures (or should be) about who is allowed in and when - certainly the HHS, state inspectors, among others.
merely being a senator doesnt necessarily give you entry to poke around, tour, take pictures, bring reporters etc
and yes, im all for the optics and the indignation
re: #717 HappyWarrior
I think contrary to what Wendell said, they thought he’d lose and then they’d be able to act like he was a stupid freak accident and then they’d nominate some tool like Rubio in 2020 against Clinton.
yup
re: #722 HappyWarrior
You’re ignoring that Trump won due to a freak accident. Trump only won because he got enough votes in the right places. You’re giving them way way too much credit and ignoring that going into November of two years ago, the GOP was going to be eager to distance themselves from his mess.
that was not a freak accident, that was a carefully planned and orchestrated strategy
it panned out between voter suppression, disinformation, partisan FBI involvement and probably through collusion with foreign interests and governments.
I hate Trump and the GOP with the power of a thousand suns.
Laura Ingraham describes border detention facilities as “like summer camp.” https://t.co/GNbcLe3Ikr
Really? pic.twitter.com/FrxN4BEfZ7— mieke eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) June 19, 2018
For reference, here’s a photo of Manzanar, an internment camp of Japanese American citizens during World War II. Note, even in one of the darkest episodes in our nation’s history, families remained together. pic.twitter.com/zUtkbKt0zs
— mieke eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) June 19, 2018
re: #717 HappyWarrior
I think contrary to what Wendell said, they thought he’d lose and then they’d be able to act like he was a stupid freak accident and then they’d nominate some tool like Rubio in 2020 against Clinton.
And Fox would spend for years bitching about Clinton, continuing dragging her name through the mud. That was the right wing plan.
Now, if we’re lucky and smart and dedicated, the right should die the death it deserves.
re: #718 Ace Rothstein
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Trump complains that immigrants are hiring “professional lawyers.”
the snark is not the redundancy
its that he’s implying they are gaming the system -
getting a lawyer to help them unfailrly gain entry to the US when they dont qualify or havent earned it
kind of like what trump’s cadre of lawyers are doing in all his cases going on at this moment - play the refs, beat the system, get him off the hook
exhibit one: giuilani
re: #729 dangerman
lets just be a tiny little bit careful here
federally contracted facility probably means its private
there are rules and procedures (or should be) about who is allowed in and when - certainly the HHS, state inspectors, among others.
merely being a senator doesnt necessarily give you entry to poke around, tour, take pictures, bring reporters etcand yes, im all for the optics and the indignation
And I think that needs to change. A Congressperson ought to be able to enter those types of facilities due to the responsibility as a check on the executive.
re: #727 Winston_Smith
I’m amazed the bottom hasn’t dropped out yet. I wonder what Trump will have to do to cause that?
$2bn more tariffs?
“Totally open borders or criminal prosecution for law breaking” are the “only two options,” Trump said, also pushing “merit-based” entry. pic.twitter.com/YYhqdVRFDY
— POLITICO (@politico) June 19, 2018
A “merit-based” immigration system means we will not get the incredibly driven but uneducated, the poor but brilliant who’ve yet to blossom or the freedom-loving who’ve given all to escape & just need a chance. America will get get the boring & the rich, not the disruptors. https://t.co/MsWAg5E1dC
— Colin Clark (@ColinDefense) June 19, 2018
re: #722 HappyWarrior
You’re ignoring that Trump won due to a freak accident. Trump only won because he got enough votes in the right places. You’re giving them way way too much credit and ignoring that going into November of two years ago, the GOP was going to be eager to distance themselves from his mess.
I don’t think that FOX thought they could win the presidency. I think they planned on a Clinton presidency and an extension of the business model they had during the Obama years. Russia would have gotten what they wanted - a chaotic and weakened US, with a significant proportion of America convinced their government was illegitimate.
I think the sheer volume of racist, evil Americans surprised everyone, even the people who had worked to create them. For the first year or so, they didn’t quite know what to do with this unexpected bonanza. FOX literally won the presidency and didn’t know what to do with it.
Now they know. Straight up Nazism - maintain power by spreading propaganda and sacrificing the disenfranchised.
re: #725 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
people did the math: Michael Moore also figured it out. All they had to do was win all the states they took under Romney (no problem with that) and pick up OH, MI, WI and PA.
With those electoral votes, they would not even need Florida.
So they decided it was worth the run…with anyone else, Hillary’s popular vote lead would have led to an EC win.
I’m merely saying that was a surprise to us all. Yes, Moore saw it but it surprised most people.
re: #734 MsJ
And Fox would spend for years bitching about Clinton, continuing dragging her name through the mud. That was the right wing plan.
Now, if we’re lucky and smart and dedicated, the right should die the death it deserves.
that was the backup plan, all those stolen votes
but I don’t think they planned on losing with Trump
It was a crap shoot, but it paid off by a few tens of thousands of votes in the right places.
It was their only chance to win
re: #739 Renaissance_Man
I don’t think that FOX thought they could win the presidency. I think they planned on a Clinton presidency and an extension of the business model they had during the Obama years. Russia would have gotten what they wanted - a chaotic and weakened US, with a significant proportion of America convinced their government was illegitimate.
I think the sheer volume of racist, evil Americans surprised everyone, even the people who had worked to create them. For the first year or so, they didn’t quite know what to do with this unexpected bonanza. FOX literally won the presidency and didn’t know what to do with it.
Now they know. Straight up Nazism - maintain power by spreading propaganda and sacrificing the disenfranchised.
Agreed. FNC still plays out as if HRC won.
re: #729 dangerman
lets just be a tiny little bit careful here
federally contracted facility probably means its private
there are rules and procedures (or should be) about who is allowed in and when - certainly the HHS, state inspectors, among others.
merely being a senator doesnt necessarily give you entry to poke around, tour, take pictures, bring reporters etcand yes, im all for the optics and the indignation
The one Merkly went to was also private. People discussed how easy it is to verify who is a Congress person after they were denied entry. And yes, I think they should be let in to tour, poke around and bring reporters.
The element of surprise is also necessary in some of these visits to *for-profit child prison camps*.
.@POTUS: “I’m going to go, very shortly, for authorization that when countries abuse us by sending their people up — not their best [people] — we’re not going to give any more aid to those countries. Why the hell should we? Why should we?” https://t.co/4NzISpVeUJ pic.twitter.com/8FeROsYOa9
— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 19, 2018
re: #738 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Merit based entry huh? Well that surely wasn’t Melania or Ivana because you’re a shitty lay.
re: #716 Jay C
AND… he’s still rabbiting on about “open borders” and “Democratic voters” and: amazingly (sic) enough: Hillary Clinton.
Geez: I’m old enough to remember when Americans used to sneer at the oratorical excesses of certain world leaders (Fidel Castro comes to mind) who would subject their people to lengthy repetitive rants on TV… I guess we’re all supposed to be grateful for the freedom we have to change the channel.
BTW: Anybody know what the public media situation is like in North Korea? I recall reading some years ago that they had just two TV channels, and that all TV in the country had to be pre-set to just those two (and that the Norks’ TV technology was deliberately designed around obsolete Russian broadcast standards just to make doubly sure that the people wouldn’t even be able to get “outside” news)
re: #737 dangerman
$2bn more tariffs?
Well today’s drop is because he threatened another $200 billion in tariffs on China. I doubt 2 billion more would make much difference.
He’s a damn idiot.
that is correct we don’t sell shoes at all in Canada
— Marie-Anne (@mpollaud) June 19, 2018
re: #748 JordanRules
He’s a damn idiot.
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I wouldn’t be able to resist the overwhelming impulse to yell at him, “Hey, shut the fuck up, you crazy old bastard!”
re: #740 HappyWarrior
I’m merely saying that was a surprise to us all. Yes, Moore saw it but it surprised most people.
Surprised me, but if MM figured it out, I suspect that there were enough RNC people who decided it was worth the risk, and if they lost, they had the trash-Hillary -for-four-years backup option.
re: #736 Belafon
And I think that needs to change. A Congressperson ought to be able to enter those types of facilities due to the responsibility as a check on the executive.
i’ve been on both sides of this - as part of the facility (not child care) and the funder/overseer
and i dont disagree about additional checks…
its’ complicated
unless it’s spelled out in advance (usually part of the funding agremenet), even the overseer cant usually drop in unannounced
then, which congresscritter? only the ones frmo the district/state? what about if theiyre on the oversight committee? or?…..
re: #733 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
[Laura Ingraham describes border detention facilities as “like summer camp]
At summer camp, they have ‘LIGHTS OUT!’ when everybody is in their cots.
re: #739 Renaissance_Man
I don’t think that FOX thought they could win the presidency. I think they planned on a Clinton presidency and an extension of the business model they had during the Obama years. Russia would have gotten what they wanted - a chaotic and weakened US, with a significant proportion of America convinced their government was illegitimate.
I think the sheer volume of racist, evil Americans surprised everyone, even the people who had worked to create them. For the first year or so, they didn’t quite know what to do with this unexpected bonanza. FOX literally won the presidency and didn’t know what to do with it.
Now they know. Straight up Nazism - maintain power by spreading propaganda and sacrificing the disenfranchised.
It’s the same language the America Firsters (aka the American Nazi Party) used to deny Jews fleeing the Holocaust entry to the US.
They claimed Jews were criminals who would infest the nation and be parasites on the nation. It’s the SAME EXACT phrasing.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) June 19, 2018
Removing all doubt that Trump and his craven admin are a bunch of white supremacists. Everything they’re doing is intentionally harming minorities, preventing minorities entry to the US, or harming women, children, and LGBT because they are not worth as much in the eyes of Trump and the GOP.
re: #744 Ace Rothstein
Hey we don’t elect our best people either….
re: #752 dangerman
i’ve been on both sides of this - as part of the facility (not child care) and the funder/overseer
and i dont disagree about additional checks…its’ complicated
unless it’s spelled out in advance (usually part of the funding agremenet), even the overseer cant usually drop in unannouncedthen, which congresscritter? only the ones frmo the district/state? what about if theiyre on the oversight committee? or?…..
Any serving member of congress should be let into the for-profit child prison camps.
re: #740 HappyWarrior
I’m merely saying that was a surprise to us all. Yes, Moore saw it but it surprised most people.
we are again discussing possibility vs probability
while moore and silver and a few others saw the possibility, almost no one thought it was likely
including the trump campaign
GOP Sen. Alexander on family separation policy:
“Well, the White House could change it in 5 minutes and they should. It’s a mistake. It’s a change in policy by this administration.” pic.twitter.com/F8GVksq5pi— NBC News (@NBCNews) June 19, 2018
If you oppose the policy, instead of waiting for the White House to change it, you could support legislation to stop it. You are a United States Senator. https://t.co/y3D0E919fJ
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) June 19, 2018
re: #758 dangerman
we are again discussing possibility vs probability
while moore and silver and a few others saw the possibility, almost no one thought it was likely
including the trump campaign
Correct.
re: #735 dangerman
Trump complains that immigrants are hiring “professional lawyers.”
the snark is not the redundancy
its that he’s implying they are gaming the system -
getting a lawyer to help them unfailrly gain entry to the US when they dont qualify or havent earned itkind of like what trump’s cadre of lawyers are doing in all his cases going on at this moment - play the refs, beat the system, get him off the hook
exhibit one: giuilani
yeah they should only be able to hire the unprofessional lawyers.
Geeze.
re: #759 Patricia Kayden
GOP Sen. Alexander on family separation policy:
“Well, the White House could change it in 5 minutes and they should. It’s a mistake. It’s a change in policy by this administration.”
R.I.P. his mentions from the Trumpbots.
re: #762 Sir John Barron
R.I.P. his mentions from the Trumpbots.
No doubt about it, the Trumpers are cultists. The only question is, how it gonna end?
Like Jonestown?
Or the Branch Davidians?
re: #743 JordanRules
The one Merkly went to was also private. People discussed how easy it is to verify who is a Congress person after they were denied entry. And yes, I think they should be let in to tour, poke around and bring reporters.
The element of surprise is also necessary in some of these visits to *for-profit child prison camps*.
im not saying verify they are congress
im saying how does that give them authorization to enter what is otherwise a private business if the business doesnt want to allow them in
(even though it receives government money)
there are rules and just showing up at the door saying “im a senator” isnt (at the moment) enough. any more than “im a tax payer, it’s my money”
the agreement is usually with a specificl funding department or agency, not ‘the government’
i have no problem wiht surprise audits. again, ive been on boths sides of them. its usually spelled out contractually in advance of agreeing to take the gov’ts money who can come, how often, and what they can do there
i know it’s a fine point and i dont want to get lost in the weeds
right now - anything to keep the profile of this issue high
re: #761 Sir John Barron
yeah they should only be able to hire the unprofessional lawyers.
Geeze.
Trump’s got all of those, though most of them have retained professional lawyers.
re: #753 wrenchwench
At summer camp, they have ‘LIGHTS OUT!’ when everybody is in their cots.
Or so I hear. I’ve read books…
re: #745 HappyWarrior
Merit based entry huh? Well that surely wasn’t Melania or Ivana because you’re a shitty lay.
Hookers are exempted.
re: #744 Ace Rothstein
.@POTUS: “I’m going to go, very shortly, for authorization that when countries abuse us by sending their people up — not their best [people] — we’re not going to give any more aid to those countries. Why the hell should we? Why should we?”
and here is the core problem as i said way above
shutting the door at the border
rather than addressing why folks would risk coming all that way, or sending their kids and staying behind themselves
because the chance at something here is better than the reailty of nothing there
and he wants to make the reality worse
re: #747 danarchy
Well today’s drop is because he threatened another $200 billion in tariffs on China. I doubt 2 billion more would make much difference.
that’s what i meant - i left off the zeros
(im trying to do some actual work here…)
re: #763 Dr Lizardo
No doubt about it, the Trumpers are cultists. The only question is, how it gonna end?
Like Jonestown?
Or the Branch Davidians?
I don’t know. It’s a dangerous one though since Jones and Koresh never got as many people under their thumb as Trump ahs.
re: #769 dangerman
and here is the core problem as i said way above
shutting the door at the border
rather than addressing why folks would risk coming all that way, or sending their kids and staying behind themselves
because the chance at something here is better than the reailty of nothing there
and he wants to make the reality worse
And they don’t really want to shut it for everyone. *wink, wink, okay hand signal*
So they aren’t even starting the argument in good faith. It is one leg on the stool of their white supremacist agenda, mass incarceration domestically is another.
re: #765 Belafon
Trump’s got all of those, though most of them have retained professional lawyers.
when your lawyer’s lawyer needs a lawyer…
re: #773 JordanRules
And they don’t really want to shut it for everyone. *wink, wink, okay hand signal*
So they aren’t even starting the argument in good faith. It is one leg on the stool of their white supremacist agenda, mass incarceration domestically is another.
Like Norwegians. They got wood
re: #718 Ace Rothstein
Professional lawyers?
“Not the best lawyers, liberal elite lawyers, with degrees, probably lawyers who will work pro bono. Idealists. “
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re: #775 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Like Norwegians. They got wood
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Oh no wonder why Trump wants us to be more like Norway.
*stares off into the abyss*
Do everything it takes to #KeepFamilesTogether.
What are the highest impact ways to help?— jack (@jack) June 19, 2018
re: #761 Sir John Barron
yeah they should only be able to hire the unprofessional lawyers.
Geeze.
Here’s the most unprofessional lawyer in the US. She hates immigrants, though, even though she is one and they’re the only clients of her dental business.
re: #778 JordanRules
*stares off into the abyss*
Do everything it takes to #KeepFamilesTogether.
What are the highest impact ways to help?
backup, then delete trump’s account
re: #778 JordanRules
Getting Nazis of Twitter would be a nice start since Twitter is so influential.
Could you help with that, Jack?
Nah.
re: #763 Dr Lizardo
No doubt about it, the Trumpers are cultists. The only question is, how it gonna end?
Like Jonestown?
Or the Branch Davidians?
Historically, fascist nationalist movements end through violence, often war. In the nuclear age, large scale war is a very different proposition, and so we’re really in uncharted territory.
Fuck you Ann Coulter!!
According to Mexico’s foreign ministry, one of the children separated from their parents at the border was a little girl with Down syndrome.
— Kevin Sieff (@ksieff) June 19, 2018
re: #774 dangerman
Trump’s real beef isn’t that immigrants are hiring lawyers (okay part of it is that they’re entitled to legal counsel). It’s that they’re hiring lawyers that wouldn’t even be caught dead repping Trump or his cronies. No one wants to rep Trump because of his awful reputation as a client and his criminal conduct is seen as indefensible (and yet the GOP continues doing just that enabling his corruption and criminality every day).
They’re hiring better lawyers than Trump’s able to get for his ongoing legal woes.
They’re hiring better lawyers than Trump’s underlings who all had to lawyer up.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) June 19, 2018
re: #778 JordanRules
*stares off into the abyss*
[Do everything it takes to #KeepFamilesTogether.
What are the highest impact ways to help?]
Do nothing unless you can have the HIGHEST impact.
*breathes fire*
Trigger Warning
“Put your hands on me n***er, I run this country, you guys are dead.” — white man goes on ugly racist rant against a Black man.
This is happening in America, in Seattle. In 2018.
His name is Steven Jay Watts. pic.twitter.com/QuMRKxFeUE— Together we rise 🙌🏾 (@Matsamon) June 18, 2018
re: #784 lawhawk
Trump’s real beef isn’t that immigrants are hiring lawyers (okay part of it is that they’re entitled to legal counsel)
To judge by his language, it seems a hard-enough stretch for Donald Trump to even imagine refugee asylum-seekers* as human beings: conceding that they might be entitled to legal representation must send him right round the bend….
*well, those from “shithole countries”, anyway
Trump says Canadians are smuggling US goods into Canada to avoid tariffs: “They buy shoes and they wear ‘em. They scuff ‘em up to make ‘em sound old, or look old.”
— Eamon Javers (@EamonJavers) June 19, 2018
This idiot right here.
re: #790 jaunte
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This idiot right here.
And right here.
Pres ends speech to @NFIB Conference and hugs flag. pic.twitter.com/x89UwXQ8jD
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) June 19, 2018
Mercy me. SMDH
“I listened to your shoes. They sound old, but fake old.”
Get the net.
If he keeps that up he will owe that flag $130,000.00.
— 2018 Vote Dems! Our Lives Depend on Our Votes! (@AlasscanIsBack) June 19, 2018
re: #787 Teukka
*breathes fire*
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Arrested:
“Seattle police confirm the man was arrested and booked into King County Jail for a misdemeanor harassment charge. The judge in the case said that the man has not been evaluated for mental illness.
Seattle police have confirmed the man was arrested Friday afternoon and booked into King County Jail for misdemeanor harassment.”
re: #787 Teukka
*breathes fire*
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Looks like he got arrested for harassment.
re: #793 jaunte
Get the net.
The last couple of days it sounds like he’s losing what few fucking marbles he ever had. I think he’s literally going to start jabbering complete gibberish by Friday. Well, his base will say he’s “speaking in tongues” I suppose….
re: #790 jaunte
This idiot right here.
So Canadians are buying their own shoes in Canada, they walk across the border, sell the shoes they just bought, and then go barefoot?
re: #792 JordanRules
And right here.
Mercy me. SMDH
His brain is disintegrating right before our eyes.
re: #790 jaunte
This idiot right here.
So are they smuggling the goods in by putting the goods in their shoes? What sorts of goods are they smuggling?
Rhetorical questions
Here it comes: US to withdraw from UN Human Rights Council
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley are expected to announce that the U.S. is leaving the U.N. Human Rights Council on Tuesday evening, Bloomberg News reported.
According to two people familiar with the matter who spoke with Bloomberg, the decision will be announced at the State Department at 5 p.m. and is largely based on U.S. officials’ perception that the council is biased against Israel.
‘Biased against Israel.’ Right.
I’m thinking it’s more like they want to evade international sanctions for violating human rights - like what we’re doing on the southern border right now.
re: #790 jaunte
This idiot right here.
I would love for someone to identify which wingnut publication or enterprise fed him this, um, example, and what larger story this snippet was pulled from.
re: #620 HappyWarrior
You know who’s been silent as hell on this? Ron Paul. Mr. I made my whole career acting like any government involvement was the worst evil thing ever. Of course, as I said yesterday that the Paul family’s not so little secret is that they don’t care about the liberty of non white people especially ones that aren’t citizens.
We know of Ron Paul’s racism through his newsletters.
The Libertarian Party is also silent. So much for their ideas of “smaller smarter government.”
Someone above commented on cutting all Trump supporters out of your life. I can’t do that where I live, as virtually everyone is (or was) a Trump supporter. I would have to move.
What I do is try to educate people on what’s going on outside our conservative newspaper, and Sinclair-owned outlets.
As I was gathering water samples to mail this morning, I engaged several people over a) the letter I wrote published in the paper Sunday, and b) the United Methodist Church is considering sanctioning the Attorney General over child abuse.
The letter was well received, and Christians in town were horrified when I explained why the UMC is considering those sanctions.
What was once a conservative village board in this village is now a liberal-majority one after the last election. I’d like to think that I am having some impact here.
If the government goes all the way with their fascist tendencies and starts rounding up opposition politicians however, I don’t know what I’ll do.
Stephen Colbert
✔
@StephenAtHome
One thing I know for sure: no one on the right side of history has ever had to nitpick what the definition of “cage” is.
re: #546 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch
Does anyone have a link to the Feinstein bill?
The title has been shortened:
S.3036 - Keep Families Together Act
re: #759 Patricia Kayden
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As a Tennessean, I’m telling you that, on this and many other Trump administration actions, you need to grow a pair, Lamar.
— TedStriker (@talon_262) June 19, 2018
re: #779 Winston_Smith
Here’s the most unprofessional lawyer in the US. She hates immigrants, though, even though she is one and they’re the only clients of her dental business.
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Oy vey….Oily Taintz.
re: #780 dangerman
backup, then delete trump’s account
— 🗣”JOHNNY JONES!” (@Johnny_J_Jones) June 19, 2018