Donald Trump’s main influencers (anchors at Fox News) are trying to bully him into rejecting the bipartisan deal that gets him 55 miles of border wall.
Guess we will find out come Friday.
The wife of White House communications director Bill Shine is spreading anti-vaccine conspiracy theories and calling an ongoing measles outbreak “fake news.”
She also appears to be trying to turn vaccination into a partisan issue, which is unspeakably dangerous. pic.twitter.com/O3B9gBU5Mn— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) February 13, 2019
re: #2 jaunte
Letting your kids die to own the libs really doesn’t sound very strategic.
Hypocrisy so blatant it warps the fabric of space-time.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 13, 2019
re: #3 Belafon
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we’re Homeopathic!”
Max Boot infuriates me..
Conservatives haved delayed the transition to a green economy for so long the Green New Deal HAS to be a large project to turn the very large ship that is America in the right direction. It is not our fault the Republicans and Conservatives ignored science and facts for decades.
— CongoJack (@Capt_CongoJack) February 13, 2019
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we hardly ever visit the city!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we open-carry!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; you can’t even see germs!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we’ve always voted Republican!”
re: #6 CongoJack
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GND may not be perfect but it’s a fucking start.
re: #3 Belafon
Letting your kids die to own the libs really doesn’t sound very strategic.
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Trump’s going to screw millions of workers because the deal includes back pay for contractors who got locked out of pay thanks to Trump’s tantrum shutdown.
On including back pay for federal contractors in the spending deal, Blunt tells reporters: “I’ve been told the president won’t sign that.”
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) February 13, 2019
Trump’s so for the American worker that he stiffs them every chance he gets.
re: #10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
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The longer we wait to address this existential threat, the more expensive and the more difficult it’s going to be. Your comparison of an attempt to finally do something with Trump’s xenophobic fantasy is laughable. Apparently there’s still some right wing left in you. https://t.co/h6EpDXt1Qp
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 13, 2019
I guess that the premier investigatory agency of of time, the Catholic Church, has found no evidence of racism at Covington. And no evidence of priestly semen in any rectums. The second finding is standard boilerplate. Probably the first finding too if I think about it.
re: #3 Belafon
Letting your kids die to own the libs really doesn’t sound very strategic.
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re: #6 CongoJack
Max Boot infuriates me..
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re: #14 Charles Johnson
The Magical Balance Fairy is breaking out all over today.
Very embarrassing effort by Trump surrogate/campaign guy on CNN just how to say “everyone is a victim of something today” and thus there is no racism or anti-Semitism worth condemning anymore. This is remarkably stupid whataboutism to excuse a morally deficient president.
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) February 13, 2019
re: #10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
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re: #18 jaunte
The Magical Balance Fairy is breaking out all over today.
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Yet the Trump campaign and other wingnuts love to fuel the idea that Christians and whites are being discriminated against.
As one of the many compromised-immunity-Americans out here, I’m intensely annoyed at being physically threatened by the stupidity of anti-vaxxers and their helpers.
Houston is one of the cities most at risk for anti-vaxxer irresponsibility.
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Yet the Trump campaign and other wingnuts love to fuel the idea that Christians and whites are being discriminated against.
They are being discriminated against. They can’t use the n word but black people can. That’s discrimination and affects their quality of life
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Interesting how the never-Trumpers seem to be reverting back to their reactionary former selves, as soon as Democrats start fighting back against decades of disastrous GOP policy.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 13, 2019
re: #18 jaunte
The Magical Balance Fairy is breaking out all over today.
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— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) February 13, 2019
Except for Ilhan Omar, she must resign!!!!
re: #25 Charles Johnson
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My favorite thing on twitter so far is just yelling at the GOP… does it do anything? Nope. Does it make me feel better…. sure does.
YOU. WANT. A. KLEPTOCRACY. That is what Russia has… it is what Trump wants. If it is a choice between Socialism (which we ALREADY HAVE - Social Security, Medicare, VA Tricare etc) and a kelptocracy - I will pick socialism every time.
— CongoJack (@Capt_CongoJack) February 13, 2019
re: #28 CongoJack
My favorite thing on twitter so far is just yelling at the GOP… does it do anything? Nope. Does it make me feel better…. sure does.
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You literally are talking about paying farmers money to make up for the failure of your tariffs. You’re not capitalists despite what you say.
re: #18 jaunte
And yet CNN will continue to have those folks on, and allow their point of view to become ‘fact’ by sheer dint of repetition and lack of pushback. Meanwhile, everything a liberal or Dem says gets the full cross-examination and nowhere near the repetition, because Dems are wrong and should be unheard by default.
All the while enabling the persecution complex of the people who own all the fucking power.
re: #27 HappyWarrior
As I said yesterday, they hate Trump not for being an asshole and terribly policy wise, they hate him because he’s exposed how empty right wing ideology really is and how it’s fueled not by belief in in limited government and individual rights but fear of the other.
I have read that during WWII there was a thing called “too late” for enemy soldiers surrendering. That’s my personal take on never-trumpers. Too late, too much damage done, and if they escape they’ll try to do it again.
Ilhan Omar just enraged Elliot Abrams by bringing up the El Mozote massacre to his dead eyed fucking face, hope everyone who spent the last few days urging her to watch her words and have a more productive conversation about other objectively true things does it again
— Will🦕Menaker (@willmenaker) February 13, 2019
— Jake Sperling (@Jake_Sperling) February 13, 2019
The real tragedy is that if America had started to seriously address climate change 20 or 30 years ago, we’d be in much better shape now and might not be faced with the need for emergency measures. The GOP made sure that did not happen, and that record will live in infamy.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 13, 2019
re: #33 CongoJack
was in relation to:
Ilhan Omar just enraged Elliot Abrams by bringing up the El Mozote massacre to his dead eyed fucking face, hope everyone who spent the last few days urging her to watch her words and have a more productive conversation about other objectively true things does it again
— Will🦕Menaker (@willmenaker) February 13, 2019
re: #6 CongoJack
Max Boot infuriates me..
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He is who we thought he was!
Isn’t he basically another small government conservative? He is just being himself.
I too am one that was glad for anyone to help America get the message out that Trump was bad for this country. I look at Never Trumpers as tools. You use then for the job and when they are no longer needed, back into the tool box goes the tools.
They are not and probably never will be progressive, liberal Democrats.
re: #32 jaunte
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On February 8, Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs, told the committee that “it appears to be an incident that is at least being significantly misused, at the very best, by the guerrillas.”
Yeah fuck Abrams.
re: #36 ObserverArt
He is who we thought he was!
Isn’t he basically another small government conservative? He is just being himself.
I too am one that was glad for anyone to help America get the message out that Trump was bad for this country. I look at Never Trumpers as tools. You use then for the job and when they are no longer needed, back into the tool box goes the tools.
They are not and probably never will be progressive, liberal Democrats.
Some of them I think do get it more than others but others are still delusional about their ideology.
re: #32 jaunte
I will admit I only have two minutes of history on this topic, but I’m not seeing the problem.
re: #39 Belafon
She asked him if he would uphold human rights in the foreign policy decision process and he at first temporized, and then said it was “always” the policy of the United States.
re: #11 lawhawk
Trump’s going to screw millions of workers because the deal includes back pay for contractors who got locked out of pay thanks to Truhmp’s tantrum shutdown.
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Trump’s so for the American worker that he stiffs them every chance he gets.
Well, people didn’t do their study of his business methods and his character. Instead they bought the hats, the bullshit, the TV reality “You Fired” guy and then voted for him.
I guess too many people like “hands-on” education.
I bet some of those contractors and other Trump supporters wish they could get their hands on him now.
re: #40 jaunte
She asked him if he would uphold human rights in the foreign policy decision process and he at first temporized, and then said it was “always” the policy of the United States.
He walked into that one and she did her homework. The Reagan administration is why there are a lot of problems in Central America and that’s another thing the Never Trumpers don’t want to own up to because it would mean admitting that the Reagan administration cared more about anti-communism than pro-democracy in that part of the world.
re: #40 jaunte
She asked him if he would uphold human rights in the foreign policy decision process and he at first temporized, and then said it was “always” the policy of the United States.
OK. Now I’m just laughing.
re: #39 Belafon
I will admit I only have two minutes of history on this topic, but I’m not seeing the problem.
I hadn’t either but I’m definitely a little familiar with atrocities by militants supported by the Reagan administration in that part of the world.
Shock doesn’t begin to cover it.
Today I left a hearing on homelessness & saw tons of people camped outside committee.
I turned to my staff and asked if it was a demonstration.
“No,” they said. “Lobbyists pay the homeless + others to hold their place so they can get in 1st.” pic.twitter.com/mXbgqkKp4P— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 13, 2019
Elliott Abrams should be in prison. It makes me sick that he’s back again with the Trump gang, in the very area where he caused so much misery.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 13, 2019
Left hanging on the previous thread:
re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I’m not a fan of AIPAC either, then again I am not a fan of any PAC tbh. Honestly I am disgusted by how the dems dragged Omar through the ringer and made her apologize for something she should never have had to apologize for. She rightly criticized just how much AIPAC money holds sway (and the diarist points to actual quotes by various leaders of AIPAC). Add the Saudis into the mix and I loathe what’s being done even more. Seriously, on this one fuck Schumer and Pelosi and the rest. There was some dem representative on MSNBC calling Omar’s comments Horrible etc, etc. In other words it’s a pile on and people aren’t reading or thinking for themselves.
re: #433 Anymouse 🌹
Democratic politicians need more AOC lessons in social media, since this was originally pushed by Matthew Heinbach’s girlfriend, and even roped in Chelsea Clinton.
Koala tantrum 😅 pic.twitter.com/6KY2DdLSS4
— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden) February 13, 2019
Me too, koala.
re: #46 Charles Johnson
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— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) February 13, 2019
You know, I would expect someone who has ties to the Palestinian areas outside the US to be rather interested in foreign policy, which over the last 70 years means US foreign policy.
Edit: I got her location wrong. Edited to reflect that.
re: #52 Belafon
You know, I would expect someone who has ties to the Palestinian areas to be rather interested in foreign policy, which over the last 70 years means US foreign policy.
Rep Omar is from Somalia. Your broader point though is spot on.
No doubt you have a modest proposal for homeless children as well.
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) February 13, 2019
re: #53 HappyWarrior
Rep Omar is from Somalia. Your broader point though is spot on.
You’re correct. I’m getting my people mixed up.
re: #54 Scottish Dragon
Homeless People Recruited As Border Fence Bollards
I can’t believe capitalism has allowed for this mutually beneficial exchange. Let’s ban it so the homeless people can go back to panhandling out on the cold streets.
re: #22 jaunte
As one of the many compromised-immunity-Americans out here, I’m intensely annoyed at being physically threatened by the stupidity of anti-vaxxers and their helpers.
As a person who’s suffered from mumps twice (as a child and in 2012) and from chickenpox three times (last in 1993), I am too.
Getting the actual disease doesn’t always confer immunity. It seems reasonable I can get mumps and chickenpox again.
re: #58 jaunte
Homeless People Recruited As Border Fence Bollards
I have to say that while I don’t see myself as a Democratic Socialist, I definitely get why they exist.
re: #58 jaunte
Homeless People Recruited As Border Fence Bollards
Yep, or we could realize that this isn’t a solution, that maybe capitalism isn’t working here, and come up with one that does.
re: #54 Scottish Dragon
F that guy with a cactus.
I loved the dignity of being a homeless veteran and a prop for conservatives throughout the late Nineties and early Naughts.
re: #10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
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re: #60 Anymouse 🌹
As a person who’s suffered from mumps twice (as a child and in 2012) and from chickenpox three times (last in 1993), I am too.
Getting the actual disease doesn’t always confer immunity. It seems reasonable I can get mumps and chickenpox again.
Apparently that is very rare; most people who had either mumps or chickenpox are immune for life from either of those diseases. Of course, having chickenpox does mean you can get shingles multiple times — but that is a separate ailment.
The Southern Baptist Convention has sent out PR guy Russell Moore to try and calm the raging heathen. I am having none of it.
@nytopinion can y’all just spare us? It’s not #MeToo, it’s #ChurchToo. And Russell Moore isn’t helpful at all; he’s never disavowed patriarchy. Do not be deceived, Moore is trying to protect the status quo of the suppression of women and children in the SBC.
— Deana “Welcome to Gritty 2019!” Holmes (@mmmirele) February 13, 2019
re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter
Apparently that is very rare; most people who had either mumps or chickenpox are immune for life from either of those diseases. Of course, having chickenpox does mean you can get shingles multiple times — but that is a separate ailment.
But it’s another reason that we need herd immunity to depend on.
Dave Daubenmire (“Coach” Dave, who was never a coach but is a wingnut Christian) claims companies are putting foetal tissue in food.
Like many brick and mortar stores moving to on-line platforms, Christian ministries are doing the same and for the same reason. Daubenmire has over 2,200,000 viewers of his videos.
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re: #37 HappyWarrior
On February 8, Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs, told the committee that “it appears to be an incident that is at least being significantly misused, at the very best, by the guerrillas.”
Yeah fuck Abrams.
Elliot Abrams?
The I was convicted of lying to Congress, Elliot Abrams?
Is testifying before Congress?
re: #67 I Would Prefer Not To
Talk about questionable life choices.
re: #66 mmmirele
Neither am I.
The church (whether the Catholic Church or the Southern Baptists) covered up abuse, rape, etc., and silenced the victims while moving around the abusers from parish to parish. They engaged in a conspiracy to cover up the details of the abuse for decades.
They get zero credit for coming forward now.
They do not get any benefit of doubt now.
They should lose their tax exemptions. They got those benefits because they were perceived as a social good, but the crime and the coverup should end them.
Burn Deluxe: Watching Representative Omar Clashes with Elliott Abrams Over U.S. Military Role in Central America @CSPAN https://t.co/O46cPhcGN8
— 🦈DETodd🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) February 13, 2019
re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter
Apparently that is very rare; most people who had either mumps or chickenpox are immune for life from either of those diseases. Of course, having chickenpox does mean you can get shingles multiple times — but that is a separate ailment.
It’s rare in the sense they are both about 1%. That’s a whole lot of people in a country this size.
I was quarantined by the VA when I got mumps in 2012 so I wouldn’t spread the disease to others. (Not that I really wanted to go out with a 105°F fever and bits the size of oranges)
“I can’t believe capitalism has allowed for this mutually beneficial exchange.”
We’ve seen similar evidence in the DHS shelters that privatizing simply means compromising quality for corporate profits. https://t.co/xI6WoNDbl3
— Kaz Weida (@kazweida) February 13, 2019
re: #75 jaunte
“I can’t believe capitalism has allowed for this mutually beneficial exchange.”
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re: #72 lawhawk
Neither am I.
The church (whether the Catholic Church or the Southern Baptists) covered up abuse, rape, etc., and silenced the victims while moving around the abusers from parish to parish. They engaged in a conspiracy to cover up the details of the abuse for decades.
They get zero credit for coming forward now.
They do not get any benefit of doubt now.
They should lose their tax exemptions. They got those benefits because they were perceived as a social good, but the crime and the coverup should end them.
All churches have this problem to one degree to another.
reformation.com (list from local press accounts of churches of every denomination involved in child or adult sexual abuse)
The Catholic Church just gets the best press. The SBC is coming under scrutiny. They all have that problem.
#TrumpSmart. Pick the location of two of the most secret intelligence schools in the country, find a toxic landfill on it and invite the media to expose the fact that 7,500 children will be housed there in said dump. https://t.co/EMQje3EtBS
— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 13, 2019
re: #54 Scottish Dragon
Tony there deleted his tweet. Surprise.
re: #80 Anymouse 🌹
He couldn’t handle people capitalizing on his callousness?
re: #69 Anymouse 🌹
Dave Daubenmire (“Coach” Dave, who was never a coach but is a wingnut Christian) claims companies are putting foetal tissue in food.
Like many brick and mortar stores moving to on-line platforms, Christian ministries are doing the same and for the same reason. Daubenmire has over 2,200,000 viewers of his videos.
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Just a reminder, one of my favorite reminders…Coach Dave’s son Zachary was convicted of pandering obscenity to a minor in 2007 when he was living in his father’s house. In 2013, after his probation was over but before his 10 year requirement for registering as a sex offender ended, he tried to sit the Ohio bar. The Ohio Supreme Court, in the case In re Application of Daubenmire, said the earliest Zachary could reapply to take the bar is 2018. So far as I can tell, he has not taken the bar as his Linked In still lists him as a law clerk.
That’s what Coach Dave has given to the world.
re: #25 Charles Johnson
So much of the objection to Trump has to do with style rather than substance, so there’s a point which they’ll never cross. Shits like Erikson have no objection to anything Trump is, except that he fails to speak the preferred lexicon of dogwhistles and pap.
But there’s also the shared culture of knowledge that the US right has formulated, in which they’re axiomatically the “smart,” “serious” people because they’re cynical, open only to neoliberal* solutions because they’re “practical,” and—let’s face it—old white dudes who imagine they know everything because they’re part of a monied class in which they’re sheltered from nuanced criticism of their ideas and the suggestion that making money does not make one generally competent at philosophy, science, or macroeconomics.
*in the true sense of the word, where progress occurs and problems are solved by market-based methods.
There is a distinct US elite culture that’s deeply pseudointellectual. There the incredibly rich men who can’t admit their wealth was not earned, and their “genius” amounts to a single well-timed idea that does not translate…but they’re rich enough to pay people to legitimize what they think. I pick on David Brooks because he’s the troubadour of the group…college-lit level metaphors and quote-dropping drizzled over self-interest and fallacy…and a bunch of Never-Trump writers and *cough*thinkers operate at the same level, but they are well-compensated and well-circulated because they sing the praises of their patrons and the status quo.
I’m disappointed by Max Boot but not surprised. Conservatism has become defined by a continuous flight from self-reflection and skepticism, and each Never Trumper has a point of failure, a thing that will not bear critique and that will drive them towards a thoughtless emotive “conservative” take. Over and over we see these individuals assume that even though they have been wrong…about conservatism’s arc over forty years, about specific predictions, about each new day under Trump…that they are still more mature and intelligent than any given liberal, any given person younger than them, any given person from a different, minority background.
This is the authoritarian kernel that defines the GOP: the base assumption that they are right (correct) and right (moral) and cannot be questioned or contradicted. Everyone else must run through completely arbitrary obstacles to “prove” their rightness/righteousness, but the conservatives are the deciders and their method of discernment can’t be questioned. They cannot fail.
This is the pattern they default to. Everything else…all the beliefs that are supposed fixed, the history and traditions that supposedly define them as a conservative movement…is subject to alteration.
Boot, feeling threatened, has reflexively moved into a default posture: that all leftist ideas are inherently childlike and do not bear consideration.
re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
All churches have this problem to one degree to another.
reformation.com (list from local press accounts of churches of every denomination involved in child or adult sexual abuse)
The Catholic Church just gets the best press. The SBC is coming under scrutiny. They all have that problem.
…but not because they’re churches. Tney are all closed societies with hierarchies that aren’t subject to scrutiny (or questioning by underlings). It’s just that there are a LOTof churches that meet those criteria, not so many secular boarding schools or sports organizations.
re: #85 The Ghost of Quesos Past
My observation over the past decade is that people who switch tend to think that they’re bring something valuable to the other side with their presence, and that we should join them, rather than them joining us.
re: #75 jaunte
Lots of people live in rented homes/apartments/condos. And the vast majority of landlords (big and small) are not slumlords.* Which leads me to wonder how it is that privatized military housing ended up in the hands of slumlords.
*There are different levels of attentiveness that landlords give to properties, to be sure. In my experience, the bigger corporate landlords tend to be better at maintaining their properties (they also typically have bigger properties and more resources). But I’ve seen plenty of smaller landlords (people who maybe have a property as a retirement investment) keep their properties in good condition.
re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
All churches have this problem to one degree to another.
The Catholic Church just gets the best press. The SBC is coming under scrutiny. They all have that problem.
As with any authoritarian organization with a top-down hierarchy, the ultimate responsibility for such malfeasance must also flow directly back to the top.
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
“That’s ordinary income,” he noted. “These great fortunes were not made through ordinary income, so you probably have to look to the capital gains rate and the estate tax if you want to create more equity there.”
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
The US has charged a former Air Force intelligence specialist with spying for Iran, according to an indictment unsealed in federal court Wednesday.
Monica Witt, who was also a former counterintelligence officer for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, defected to Iran in 2013, according to the indictment, and remains at large.
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
Because the people who make money that way use part of it to buy Congress.
re: #85 The Ghost of Quesos Past
So much of the objection to Trump has to do with style rather than substance, so there’s a point which they’ll never cross. Shits like Erikson have no objection to anything Trump is, except that he fails to speak the preferred lexicon of dogwhistles and pap.
But there’s also the shared culture of knowledge that the US right has formulated, in which they’re axiomatically the “smart,” “serious” people because they’re cynical, open only to neoliberal* solutions because they’re “practical,” and—let’s face it—old white dudes who imagine they know everything because they’re part of a monied class in which they’re sheltered from nuanced criticism of their ideas and the suggestion that making money does not make one generally competent at philosophy, science, or macroeconomics.
*in the true sense of the word, where progress occurs and problems are solved by market-based methods.
There is a distinct US elite culture that’s deeply pseudointellectual. There the incredibly rich men who can’t admit their wealth was not earned, and their “genius” amounts to a single well-timed idea that does not translate…but they’re rich enough to pay people to legitimize what they think. I pick on David Brooks because he’s the troubadour of the group…college-lit level metaphors and quote-dropping drizzled over self-interest and fallacy…and a bunch of Never-Trump writers and *cough*thinkers operate at the same level, but they are well-compensated and well-circulated because they sing the praises of their patrons and the status quo.
I’m disappointed by Max Boot but not surprised. Conservatism has become defined by a continuous flight from self-reflection and skepticism, and each Never Trumper has a point of failure, a thing that will not bear critique and that will drive them towards a thoughtless emotive “conservative” take. Over and over we see these individuals assume that even though that have been wrong…about conservatism’s arc over forty years, about specific predictions, about each new day under Trump…that they are still more mature and intelligent than any given liberal, any given person younger than them, any given person from a different, minority background.
This is the authoritarian kernel that defines the GOP: the base assumption that they are right (correct) and right (moral) and cannot be questioned or contradicted. Everyone else must run through completely arbitrary obstacles to “prove” their rightness/righteousness, but the conservatives are the deciders and their method of discernment can’t be questioned. They cannot fail.
This is the pattern they default to. Everything else…all the beliefs that are supposed fixed, the history and traditions that supposedly define them as a conservative movement…is subject to alteration.
Boot, feeling threatened, has reflexively moved into a default posture: that all leftist ideas are inherently childlike and do not bear consideration.
this is spot on and i will add an irony
the only thing david brooks got close to right is this from 2003:
Why is politics no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently?
Why has it become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which each side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and only can be capable of behaving despicably?
this is his quote and I think he got close.
i have since I’ve bastardized it and cleaned it up and I pull it out and use it here often because it is mostly true, except it is not ‘each side’. it’s one side who wants the complete destruction of the d’s so with R’s left in total power, they can do whatever they want.
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
Hint: Because that’s where most rich people make their money.
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
And even in the days when the US tax rate was officially 70% or higher, the effective tax rate that people paid was considerably lower as these people have more access to deductions and deferments and the CPA computing power to put make best use of them.
Mmm….Soylent Green!
— Deirdre (@Celticlassy10) February 13, 2019
re: #96 Skip Intro
Hint: Because that’s where most rich people make their money.
I get that, but what’s strange is that we’ve been taxing it at a different rate since the 20’s.
re: #94 Belafon
Because the people who make money that way use part of it to buy Congress.
Money equals policy equal money equals…
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
Back in the dark ages when I studied income tax, the idea was that since long-term capital gains were on assets held for more than a year, they shouldn’t be taxed at the short-term (one year of income) rate. At the very least, the current rates go too far.
re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And even in the days when the US tax rate was officially 70% or higher, the effective tax rate that people paid was considerably lower as these people have more access to deductions and deferments and the CPA computing power to put make best use of them.
Even going back to the 50’s the effective tax rate of capital gains was around 15%
re: #99 KGxvi
Because the economic theory is that we want to encourage long term investment, so we tax that at a lower/preferential rate. Short term investments are not encouraged, so we tax them at the higher rate.
Never mind that the rates are still far too low, and could be higher without affecting long term investment or growth.
re: #7 jaunte
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we hardly ever visit the city!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we open-carry!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; you can’t even see germs!”
“It couldn’t happen to my family; we’ve always voted Republican!”
And after the inevitable occurs: “How did this happen to my family?”
re: #95 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
Brooks never argues, or contemplates, in good faith.
His axiom is that he’s the reasonable centrist that see the picture clearly, “both sides” are wrong in a very specific way where liberals are fundamentally nasty stupid childish hippies who never have a point and very conservative social and economic talking points are reasonable “centrist” positions and…most importantly…any time the nasty hippies turn out to be right and David Brooks was wrong it did not happen and its offensive and cruel to bring up the citable written materials that demonstrate that it happened.
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
Why are they asking only rich guys what they think about taxing higher income when they ask men what their feelings about abortion are?
re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg
And after the inevitable occurs: “How did this happen to my family?”
followed quickly by “and that’s why [insert bigoted stereotype here]”
re: #107 bd(Enquiring minds want to know!)
Why are they asking only rich guys what they think about taxing higher income when they ask men what their feelings about abortion are?
because, obviously, rich white dudes are experts at everything…
re: #106 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
And if a real emergency happens, we’re so fucked it’s unreal. Get ready for one hell of a wildfire season, y’all!
re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And even in the days when the US tax rate was officially 70% or higher, the effective tax rate that people paid was considerably lower as these people have more access to deductions and deferments and the CPA computing power to put make best use of them.
even a quick calc shows the difference between ‘marginal’ and ‘effective’ tax rates
married couple making 15m and using that 70% rate over 10m would ‘only’ go from around 36 effective tax rate to 47
while not nothing, it’s not scary quotes territory
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
And if a real emergency happens, we’re so fucked it’s unreal. Get ready for one hell of a wildfire season, y’all!
We’ve been saved from their evilness by the fact that they’re so incompetent. Unfortunately, the only way we can be saved from their incompetence is running out the clock without anything terrible happening. We’re basically in a prevent defense
re: #98 Scottish Dragon
Our government cuts up dissidents with bone saws?
Deirdre
@Celticlassy10
Mmm….Soylent Green!
from the previous thread
Soylent Green is fucking people!
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
And if a real emergency happens, we’re so fucked it’s unreal. Get ready for one hell of a wildfire season, y’all!
Or a Cascadia subduction zone megathrust quake.
re: #113 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
Soylent Green is fucking people!
*blink*
…well that’s not so bad, is it?
re: #115 The Ghost of Quesos Past
*blink*
…well that’s not so bad, is it?
Seems like a place to declare Rule 34
I just heard someone spout the “I’ve never been hired by a poor person” line, and I had to ask them if they’ve ever actually been hired by a rich person?
Rich people aren’t spending their money to run companies. Companies hire you. There are a few jobs where a rich person pays you for something like lawn mowing or work on a house, but, except for minor under the table stuff, they’re going to pay the company you’re part of. They can’t claim a writeoff of any kind if they pay you and you don’t file and pay taxes.
re: #116 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Which is overdue.
Indeed it is.
It would arguably be the worst natural disaster to ever hit the continental US.
re: #103 lawhawk
Since one has to actually perform work to earn paychecks, cap gains are “lazy” money. All you did was leave money for someone else to make money with. Should be at a higher rate than paycheck taxes.
re: #118 Belafon
I just heard someone spout the “I’ve never been hired by a poor person” line, and I had to ask them if they’ve ever actually been hired by a rich person?
Rich people aren’t spending their money to run companies. Companies hire you. There are a few jobs where a rich person pays you for something like lawn mowing or work on a house, but, except for minor under the table stuff, they’re going to pay the company you’re part of. They can’t claim a writeoff of any kind if they pay you and you don’t file and pay taxes.
Rich and poor are also relative terms. If you’ve worked for a small business, chances are your boss wasn’t “rich” in the way most people think it means. Maybe as they get close to retirement, they might have a bit more wealth, but they most likely not “private jet rich.”
re: #105 The Ghost of Quesos Past
Brooks never argues, or contemplates, in good faith.
His axiom is that he’s the reasonable centrist that see the picture clearly, “both sides” are wrong in a very specific way where liberals are fundamentally nasty stupid childish hippies who never have a point and very conservative social and economic talking points are reasonable “centrist” positions and…most importantly…any time the nasty hippies turn out to be right and David Brooks was wrong it did not happen and its offensive and cruel to bring up the citable written materials that demonstrate that it happened.
oh i agree
thats why i said it’s an irony to what you wrote and again (imo) that quote is only thing he ever wrote that he got (close to) right
it just has to be right. because i remember it, wrote it down, kept it and use it often.
why else would i do that? ;-)
re: #119 Dr Lizardo
Indeed it is.
It would arguably be the worst natural disaster to ever hit the continental US.
After looking at the data, I would be wanting to move if I lived in the Pacific Northwest.
re: #121 KGxvi
I have no desire to be rich. I just want enough money to be able to put a decent bit away for savings, enjoy a nice vacation every now and then and pay all my bills on time.
I could give two shits about a private jet or a three car garage or an $8 Million home.
re: #85 The Ghost of Quesos Past
What the never-Trump Republicans fail to realize is that Trump is the GOP in a way that very few past GOP presidents have been.
GOP propaganda, hate radio and Fox News created a cesspit of Satan in the Republican base. Trump won the 2016 GOP primary by jumping into that cesspit, wallowing in it, and very loudly and crudely saying ‘this shit smells just fine’.
Tell me if I’m crazy. That lightning game where AOC showed how cooked campaign influence is? She may have sealed an unfortunate political fate. Now the party machine powers that live on that corruption on the left and right will ally against her like never before.
re: #114 Dr Lizardo
Or a New Madrid fault quake. Or another wildfire season like 2018. Or a hurricane season with cat 4-5 landfall. Or flooding across the Plains States. Or a tornado super outbreak.
Trump and GOP are trying to separate the US federal government from disaster response, let alone recovery.
There will be great harms to come as a result of that, and it will hit those red states hardest, since they’re often the ones in vulnerable locations (Gulf Coast, Southeastern Coast), prone to floods and wildfires, etc.
re: #119 Dr Lizardo
Indeed it is.
It would arguably be the worst natural disaster to ever hit the continental US.
When the next New Madrid event occurs it would be justice if the epicenter is Cape Girandou.
re: #123 NO SMOCKING GUN!
After looking at the data, I would be wanting to move if I lived in the Pacific Northwest.
I used to live in the PNW.
I expect that one of these days, I’ll open the browser, start reading the news, and the big screaming headline is going to be something like “9.3 Monster Quake Hits Oregon and Washington”.
Hate to say it, but I figure there’s an outside possibility it could happen in my lifetime (almost 50 now).
re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg
I have no desire to be rich. I just want enough money to be able to put a decent bit away for savings, enjoy a nice vacation every now and then and pay all my bills on time.
I could give two shits about a private jet or a three car garage or an $8 Million home.
As a wise man once said:
mo’ money, mo’ problems.
re: #126 Unshaken Defiance
Tell me if I’m crazy. That lightning game where AOC showed how cooked campaign influence is? She may have sealed an unfortunate political fate. Now the party machine powers that live on that corruption on the left and right will ally against her like never before.
So, you think these people are going to be able to convince her voters that she’s not working in their interest? And you think the party that went to her for a social media education session is going to turn against her?
re: #109 KGxvi
because, obviously, rich white dudes are experts at everything…
the hardest group to teach scuba diving to were white male ‘successful’ doctors, lawyers, etc. the attitude “if im good at this i must be good at anything” was pervasive
we’d get in the shallow water, they’d ignore everything i just said cause they knew better. then i’d lay on the bottom motionless waiting for them to stop flailing around.
like i said previous thread, i never tell anyone what to do. i just explain what i know works.
re: #115 The Ghost of Quesos Past
*blink*
…well that’s not so bad, is it?
i said fucking people, not fucking people
there were three guys named ‘Ed’ in one of my classes way back when. when the wrong guy would answer, clever teacher constantly quipped “I said ‘Ed’ not ‘Ed’ “
re: #131 Belafon
So, you think these people are going to be able to convince her voters that she’s not working in their interest? And you think the party that went to her for a social media education session is going to turn against her?
By way of following the campaign monies and those tied to it yes. Otherwise no.
Or will convince her to leave that campaign money issue alone in favor of the GND.
re: #134 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i said fucking people, not fucking people
there were three guys named ‘Ed’ in one of my classes way back when. when the wrong guy would answer, clever teacher constantly quipped “I said ‘Ed’ not ‘Ed’ “
Should have called them ed ed & eddy… ;)
re: #126 Unshaken Defiance
Tell me if I’m crazy. That lightning game where AOC showed how cooked campaign influence is? She may have sealed an unfortunate political fate. Now the party machine powers that live on that corruption on the left and right will ally against her like never before.
You’re crazy. Her district is so blue they’ll re-elect her forever if she wants.
re: #135 Unshaken Defiance
By way of following the campaign monies and those tied to it yes. Otherwise no.
Or will convince her to leave that campaign money issue alone in favor of the GND.
And then, all she has to do is use that as a great example of the corruption of money in politics.
A giant portion of her appeal is her transparency and her willingness to show what’s been hidden. It’s more in her interest right now to continue.
re: #137 NO SMOCKING GUN!
You’re crazy. Her district is so blue they’ll re-elect her forever if she wants.
Keeping in office is just the start of effectiveness of making change happen. Picking too many or the wrong battle can be costly. Don’t get me wrong I like her. But she can be sidelined by the bigger players.
re: #137 NO SMOCKING GUN!
You’re crazy. Her district is so blue they’ll re-elect her forever if she wants.
And probably BECAUSE of all the hate she’s gathering from the right wing.
re: #126 Unshaken Defiance
Tell me if I’m crazy. That lightning game where AOC showed how cooked campaign influence is? She may have sealed an unfortunate political fate. Now the party machine powers that live on that corruption on the left and right will ally against her like never before.
Oh, I doubt it. We’ll have another round of reform when the next Democratic president has both houses - hopefully in 2020 - and then both machines will spend the next 50 years corrupting those reforms as they have the post Watergate reforms. That is the real cycle in American politics.
If in the meantime we get marginal rates and capital gains rates back to where they belong (70% & 70% respectively), I’d really count it as a win and get NASA going to get the eggs out of the one basket they’re stuck in.
I assume she’s working hard at constituent services. Something I imagine her predecessor didn’t address which is part of why he lost. Il
re: #130 KGxvi
As a wise man once said:
mo’ money, mo’ problems.
another one said, the only way to get rich is to earn/amass/retain more money while retaining your old values
re: #139 Unshaken Defiance
Keeping in office is just the start of effectiveness of making change happen. Picking too many or the wrong battle can be costly. Don’t get me wrong I like her. but can be sidelined by the bigger players.
The battles she’s picked so far are the ones she’s campaigned on, or been directed at her by the GOP. And who is going to sideline her? It’s obvious Pelosi likes her, and others have fed off of her lead; think of the talk about raising taxes.
re: #134 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
Admittedly it’s weird if Soylent Green is fucking stuff other than people….
re: #94 Belafon
Because the people who make money that way use part of it to buy Congress.
Honest politician: One who remains bought. ////
re: #141 William Lewis
Oh, I doubt it. We’ll have another round of reform when the next Democratic president has both houses - hopefully in 2020 - and then both machines will spend the next 50 years corrupting those reforms as they have the post Watergate reforms. That is the real cycle in American politics.
If in the meantime we get marginal rates and capital gains rates back to where they belong (70% & 70% respectively), I’d really count it as a win and get NASA going to get the eggs out of the one basket they’re stuck in.
personally, i think 70% cap gains is too high
i think three rates might work
- short - less than a year - ordinary rates
- medium - say up to 4-6 years - maybe up to 40-50% or so
- and over 7 years - the 15-20% long term rates we see now
re: #139 Unshaken Defiance
Keeping in office is just the start of effectiveness of making change happen. Picking too many or the wrong battle can be costly. Don’t get me wrong I like her. But she can be sidelined by the bigger players.
I give you Ron Dellums and Barbara Lee (CA).
re: #139 Unshaken Defiance
Keeping in office is just the start of effectiveness of making change happen. Picking too many or the wrong battle can be costly. Don’t get me wrong I like her. But she can be sidelined by the bigger players.
This is why the ActBlue fundraising system is so vital. It gives the people the power to fund people’s campaigns and bypass the oligarchs.
re: #134 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i said fucking people, not fucking people
there were three guys named ‘Ed’ in one of my classes way back when. when the wrong guy would answer, clever teacher constantly quipped “I said ‘Ed’ not ‘Ed’ “
Just call em, Ed, Edward and Eddie. Just make sure each knows who’s who. Problem solved.
/
Also, AOC can do plenty to shake up the system in the next few years even if she doesn’t get re-elected.
re: #147 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
personally, i think 70% cap gains is too high
i think three rates might work
- short - less than a year - ordinary rates
- medium - say up to 4-6 years - maybe up to 40-50% or so
- and over 7 years - the 15-20% long term rates we see now
That’s worth a discussion. (But remember the execs play games by backdating options a lot).
re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg
Just call em, Ed, Edward and Eddie. Just make sure each knows who’s who. Problem solved.
/
of course we all thought of stuff like that.
he persisted because it was 1973 and he thought he was an oh so clever english teacher
Ditto. Any Democrat will do.
On today’s episode of I DON’T GIVE A FUCK
I don’t care that Kamala Harris smoked weed, that Cory Booker is vegan, that Elizabeth Warren isn’t Native America or that Amy Klobachar is a tough boss
All I care about is beating trump in 2020
Any fucks for all the other nonsense?— WTFGOP? Jail For #Individual1 (@DogginTrump) February 13, 2019
re: #152 gwangung
That’s worth a discussion. (But remember the execs play games by backdating options a lot).
sure i was only talking rates
the whole back end would have to be addressed to
anyone remember ‘carried interest’?
re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
All churches have this problem to one degree to another.
reformation.com (list from local press accounts of churches of every denomination involved in child or adult sexual abuse)
The Catholic Church just gets the best press. The SBC is coming under scrutiny. They all have that problem.
Churches are guess what? Made up of humans.
Of course there are many churches that have pedophilia and many other abuse issues. They are made up of humans.
There are also people not in churches that are also abusers. I get the notifications in the mail all the time put out by Franklin County (OH) when one is moving into the area. Not many ex-priests or pastors on them.
I bet you many of those were known by their families who covered for them. Weird Uncle Ernie, fiddle about…fiddle about.
They’re everywhere!
Yes, I acknowledge some abusers go into some of these institutions for cover and convenience. There is probably a sick attraction involved. It’s been acknowledged for 30 years now in the Catholic Church as far as the public issue. It’s probably gone on forever. That may make some of the bigger churches a place they want to get into due to the history.
I’m not making light of this either.
The churches do cover for them, the same way their families cover for them. Embarrassment, legal, costs, family name protection, appearances, ignorance is bliss, etc.
What is going to be interesting is how the churches will handle this now and in the future. Will their be some kind of screening and much more attention given to personal record? Will they be much more watchful and have much more lack of privacy that lends itself?
I saw you mention the 1% of people like you that can still get some sicknesses repeatedly. You said 1% of the population of this country is a lot of people.
What is the percentage of this country’s population considered to be sexual abusers? I don’t know, but I bet it is higher than 1%.
re: #154 Patricia Kayden
Ditto. Any Democrat will do.
If it’s not a quirk that involves harming someone else, I don’t really care.
re: #92 KGxvi
Bill Gates with some smart advice on why the 70% top bracket misses the target:
I still don’t understand why we tax most capital gains at a lower rate than regular income.
Isn’t that self-evident by now?
Look how much they fight over earned income.
If they fight over the pennies, they will kill over the fortunes.
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
And if a real emergency happens, we’re so fucked it’s unreal. Get ready for one hell of a wildfire season, y’all!
The way the weather is going these days, fire may not be the problem. I’m calling for lots of flooding and the erosion and other problems that come with it.
And damn, we’ve had some floods lately.
re: #120 Unshaken Defiance
Since one has to actually perform work to earn paychecks, cap gains are “lazy” money. All you did was leave money for someone else to make money with. Should be at a higher rate than paycheck taxes.
HERETIC!
Check out those cars following you. And go through all the apps on your phone. They will be watching you.
Time to mourn a great space explorer.
Opportunity is dead.
Long live opportunity. pic.twitter.com/MeqqYu2z6E— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) February 13, 2019
re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg
I have no desire to be rich. I just want enough money to be able to put a decent bit away for savings, enjoy a nice vacation every now and then and pay all my bills on time.
I could give two shits about a private jet or a three car garage or an $8 Million home.
At one time that was The American Ideal.™
re: #154 Patricia Kayden
Ditto. Any Democrat will do.
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The Klobachar one is the only thing that bothers me, but I also think it’s something that is probably going to end up preventing her from getting the nomination. The PSA guys pointed out that anyone who works in Congress knows there are lists of tough/demanding offices to work for and offices where the elected official is just terrible, and apparently Klobachar falls into that second category. It’s going to be imperative for the next president to not only get good staff, but to keep them, that’s the only way the next president can work to undo a lot of the bad that the Trump Administration has done.
re: #161 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Time to mourn a great space explorer.
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I still remember how excited my parents were when the little Sojourner rover was landed on Mars. You would have thought it was Christmas. We can’t get blasé about our advances.
re: #161 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Time to mourn a great space explorer.
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My grandfather was born in 1922 and passed in 2011. He was a huge astronomy buff and he was so freaking excited when the Rover landed on Mars in 2004. He passed his love of astronomy on to me and I will continue to pass it on to the kids in my life. I really hope I live to see humans set foot on Mars.
re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg
My grandfather was born in 1922 and passed in 2011. He was a huge astronomy buff and he was so freaking excited when the Rover landed on Mars in 2004. He passed his love of astronomy on to me and I will continue to pass it on to the kids in my life. I really hope I live to see humans set foot on Mars.
My head says we should just continue to explore Mars with robots, but I can’t deny it would be really cool to see people on Mars in my lifetime.
re: #163 KGxvi
The Klobachar one is the only thing that bothers me, but I also think it’s something that is probably going to end up preventing her from getting the nomination. The PSA guys pointed out that anyone who works in Congress knows there are lists of tough/demanding offices to work for and offices where the elected official is just terrible, and apparently Klobachar falls into that second category. It’s going to be imperative for the next president to not only get good staff, but to keep them, that’s the only way the next president can work to undo a lot of the bad that the Trump Administration has done.
I imagine if it’s as bad as people say it is, Klobuchar won’t make it far anyhow. Anyhow I have no idea what kind of boss she is.
Humans on Mars would be the story of the millienium. The men and women who take part in that would be immortalized and rightfully so.
re: #168 HappyWarrior
I imagine if it’s as bad as people say it is, Klobuchar won’t make it far anyhow. Anyhow I have no idea what kind of boss she is.
This isn’t good for her if true. mediaite.com
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
My head says we should just continue to explore Mars with robots, but I can’t deny it would be really cool to see people on Mars in my lifetime.
I don’t know if we can lick the radiation problem to get Humans to Mars.
re: #138 Belafon
And then, all she has to do is use that as a great example of the corruption of money in politics.
A giant portion of her appeal is her transparency and her willingness to show what’s been hidden. It’s more in her interest right now to continue.
That is always the true test of a politician isn’t it?
There has been many an idealist that has fallen to the political game.
I hope she succeeds. This country needs for her and others like her to succeed.
re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹
I don’t know if we can lick the radiation problem to get Humans to Mars.
One of the reasons to just keep exploring Mars with robots.
re: #170 NO SMOCKING GUN!
This isn’t good for her if true. mediaite.com
Definitely. Anyhow as I said, if it’s bad as said, she’s going to struggle anyhow imo.
re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹
I don’t know if we can lick the radiation problem to get Humans to Mars.
I’d like to see more deep sea exploration myself. What many people have with outer space, I have the same fascination with the oceans.
I’m asking everyone to follow @TinaRussell309
She just filed to run against this POS in 2020, WV State Rep Porterfield, who recently implied he would drown his kids in a bathtub if he found out they were gay
Let’s hear it for Tina Russell! pic.twitter.com/nMnUuuBbWy— WTFGOP? Jail For #Individual1 (@DogginTrump) February 13, 2019
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
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From the looks of him, his kids could probably outrun him pretty easily. Or just throw a burger to distract him.
The Kentucky General Assembly is trying to kill the Kentucky solar energy industry again by limiting the amount that customers get paid for solar energy they feed back into the system. wfpl.org
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
My head says we should just continue to explore Mars with robots, but I can’t deny it would be really cool to see people on Mars in my lifetime.
I get where you’re coming from. As long as people go voluntarily with the understanding that it’s going to be in all likelihood a one way trip, I have no issue with it.
re: #177 Eventual Carrion
From the looks of him, his kids could probably outrun him pretty easily. Or just throw a burger to distract him.
From the looks of him, he may not even make it to the election.
Dude’s a slob, period.
re: #165 mmmirele
I still remember how excited my parents were when the little Sojourner rover was landed on Mars. You would have thought it was Christmas. We can’t get blasé about our advances.
i read that it was planned to run for 90 days after landing
it ran nearly 15 years
re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg
I get where you’re coming from. As long as people go voluntarily with the understanding that it’s going to be in all likelihood a one way trip, I have no issue with it.
The thing is, for the cost of one manned trip to Mars which could end in tragedy, we can send fleets of robots. Losing one of those is a set back, but losing a manned mission after pouring massive amounts of time and money into would be a tragedy which could set back Mars exploration decades.
re: #176 Patricia Kayden
That mans eyes scare me.
I mean I’m sure there’s a medical reason as to why he looks the way he does, but still.
re: #181 NO SMOCKING GUN!
The Kentucky General Assembly is trying to kill the Kentucky solar energy industry again by limiting the amount that customers get paid for solar energy they feed back into the system. wfpl.org
I thought Republicans were against governmental interference in the free market or with the business class. Why are Republicans placing their thumb on the scale against certain types of energy?
re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg
I get where you’re coming from. As long as people go voluntarily with the understanding that it’s going to be in all likelihood a one way trip, I have no issue with it.
I’d go right now and I’d even turn down a paycheck if I thought it would start a permanent presence there. All real colonization is a one way trip.
re: #160 ObserverArt
Check out those cars following you. And go through all the apps on your phone. They will be watching you.
You don’t know how true that is-especially when it comes to the Great Alphabet (Google) Satan….
re: #187 Patricia Kayden
I thought Republicans were against governmental interference in the free market or with the business class. Why are Republicans placing their thumb on the scale against certain types of energy?
Because utility companies are pouring big money into their lobbying effort to make it so.
re: #187 Patricia Kayden
I thought Republicans were against governmental interference in the free market or with the business class. Why are Republicans placing their thumb on the scale against certain types of energy?
Remember, these are the same people who are in now in favor of the government seizing peoples land without proper process or authorization to build a stupid border wall.
re: #185 NO SMOCKING GUN!
The thing is, for the cost of one manned trip to Mars which could end in tragedy, we can send fleets of robots. Losing one of those is a set back, but losing a manned mission after pouring massive amounts of time and money into would be a tragedy which could set back Mars exploration decades.
“If we die, we want people to accept it. We’re in a risky business, and we hope that, if anything happens to us, it will not delay the program. The conquest of space is worth the risk of life.”
re: #118 Belafon
I just heard someone spout the “I’ve never been hired by a poor person” line, and I had to ask them if they’ve ever actually been hired by a rich person?
Rich people aren’t spending their money to run companies. Companies hire you. There are a few jobs where a rich person pays you for something like lawn mowing or work on a house, but, except for minor under the table stuff, they’re going to pay the company you’re part of. They can’t claim a writeoff of any kind if they pay you and you don’t file and pay taxes.
There is a big distinction between corporate capital and private property, but it is lost on a lot of people, it is not something we really teach in schools.
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
re: #185 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I am a firm believer in the idea that we can’t survive long term with all our eggs in one basket. Orbital Habs, lunar station, Mars, Ceres, etc.
re: #185 NO SMOCKING GUN!
The thing is, for the cost of one manned trip to Mars which could end in tragedy, we can send fleets of robots. Losing one of those is a set back, but losing a manned mission after pouring massive amounts of time and money into would be a tragedy which could set back Mars exploration decades.
The whole thing comes down to how fast you can get there to make it workable for humans I think.
We are probably a good bit away from the ability and the safety to pull off anything that is very far beyond our capabilities now.
So, more robotic flights will be a test of that space flight too. Relative fast delivery, safely.
I don’t keep on it all as much as when younger. I’ll have to check into propulsion and fuel storage and usage. That all will be key for faster travel.
re: #154 Patricia Kayden
On today’s episode of I DON’T GIVE A FUCK
I don’t care that Kamala Harris smoked weed, that Cory Booker is vegan, that Elizabeth Warren isn’t Native America or that Amy Klobachar is a tough boss
All I care about is beating trump in 2020
Any fucks for all the other nonsense?
Yes, a whole lot of Russian and GOP ratfuckers posing as Democrats want to talk about nothing else.
re: #40 jaunte
She asked him if he would uphold human rights in the foreign policy decision process and he at first temporized, and then said it was “always” the policy of the United States.
I liked this part:
Tense exchange between Ilhan Omar and Venezuela envoy Elliott Abrams over his support for US-backed coups in the 80s.
“I fail to understand why members of this committee of the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.” pic.twitter.com/BeprHzPkfy— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 13, 2019
On the topic of living on Mars, one thing I saw was the concept of a “cycler”, which is a repeating orbit that intersects the orbits of two planets at regular intervals. Buzz Aldrin (yes, THE Buzz Aldrin) worked one out for Mars that could, if run in both forward and reverse directions, result in a one-way, 146-day transit between planets with a stay duration of 633 days. Might be worth exploring the feasibility if we’re planning on launching people to Mars.
re: #195 William Lewis
I am a firm believer in the idea that we can’t survive long term with all our eggs in one basket. Orbital Habs, lunar station, Mars, Ceres, etc.
That is a good point.
re: #86 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
And people for some stupid reason hand over their kids to these supposedly superior humans and sometimes won’t even believe their own children when they come to them for help escaping the abuse. It happened to my mom. She was 11 when it started. And no one cared. She was punished for telling the truth and ruining a good man’s reputation. So yeah, tax the fuck out of all of them. Shut the ones down that harbored abusers and take their assets and convert all those buildings into hospitals and homes and resources for veterans and homeless people. What in the actual fuck with this shit? NO.
re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, a whole lot of Russian and GOP ratfuckers posing as Democrats want to talk about nothing else.
Not just Russians and GOP, but also Bernie Bros.
re: #126 Unshaken Defiance
Tell me if I’m crazy. That lightning game where AOC showed how cooked campaign influence is? She may have sealed an unfortunate political fate. Now the party machine powers that live on that corruption on the left and right will ally against her like never before.
She’s in a solid deep blue district, is immensely popular with her constituents and seems to have no immediate ambitions beyond being a Representative.
In other words, she’s fine.
re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
I liked this part:
“I fail to understand why members of this committee of the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.”
yes! that elliot abrams (from the last thread)
re: #199 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
On the topic of living on Mars, one thing I saw was the concept of a “cycler”, which is a repeating orbit that intersects the orbits of two planets at regular intervals. Buzz Aldrin (yes, THE Buzz Aldrin) worked one out for Mars that could, if run in both forward and reverse directions, result in a one-way, 146-day transit between planets with a stay duration of 633 days. Might be worth exploring the feasibility if we’re planning on launching people to Mars.
give them a cell phone and im sure some uber drivers would go pick em up
A sports store owner who pulled Nike gear after they announced a partnership with @Kaepernick7 says his store is going out of business.
“As much as I hate to admit this, perhaps there are more Colin Kaepernick supporters out there than I realized.”
https://t.co/iAjsYXAb54— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) February 13, 2019
re: #207 Patricia Kayden
Womp womp, motherfucker.
re: #207 Patricia Kayden
A sports store owner who pulled Nike gear after they announced a partnership with @Kaepernick7 says his store is going out of business.
“As much as I hate to admit this, perhaps there are more Colin Kaepernick supporters out there than I realized.”
sure but you got your principles!
and you stick with em.
i’d like to organize 100 or more ‘apparently’ gay couples to all show up at ‘the cake baker’ at the same time. yes, ready to buy cakes. day after day. give him all that business if he calls the bluff. see how convicted his principles really are.
re: #205 HappyWarrior
Damn. She’s good.
I thought so. She didn’t let that terrorist filibuster and stayed right on point.
Maybe that’s why the GOP wants her to resign so badly.
re: #207 Patricia Kayden
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— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) February 13, 2019
re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter
Not just Russians and GOP, but also Bernie Bros.
more than a bit of overlap there…
RWNJ “principles”
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re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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house dems can do more than one thing at a time
“The House voted on Wednesday to end American military assistance for Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen, a defiant and rare move to curtail presidential war powers that underscored anger with President Trump’s unflagging support for Saudi Arabia even after the killing of a Washington Post columnist, Jamal Khashoggi,” the New York Times reports.
“The 248-177 vote, condemning a nearly four-year conflict in Yemen that has killed thousands of civilians and inflicted a devastating famine, will pressure the Republican-controlled Senate to respond.”
re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #210 makeitstop
I thought so. She didn’t let that terrorist filibuster and stayed right on point.
Maybe that’s why the GOP wants her to resign so badly.
Can you imagine some of the talk in the backrooms of congress going on these days?
It has to be unprecedented.
Fact: There are 262 names on the waiting list to read Michelle Obama’s book in the public library of the small town next to Anniston, AL.
Anniston is where the Freedom Riders were attacked and their buses burned.
re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
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re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
RWNJ “principles”
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Am I the only one who’s confused about which sanctions for which behavior have been enacted when and against whom, which have been lifted, and which are being ignored or under-enforced by the Trump administration? There’s room for a good review here!https://t.co/ZcbgTLfXcA
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) February 13, 2019
re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
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re: #222 ObserverArt
That is a tough scenario. Good luck in working it out.
I have 3 of my 4 cousins, sisters who I love dearly, in the same place for the same reason. 11 children between them, none vaccinated. Makes me sick.
Soon: More #EnemiesOfPeopleWithEpilepsy to join @Notredame etc:
Child triathlon group. Boy with epilepsy who, from brain surgery, had poor control over half body. Swam one-armed, ran in brace, came in last. Ordered disqualified cause bike had stabilizer to keep him from falling— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) February 13, 2019
re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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.@SecPompeo said that we are determined to host Russia accountable for using WMD in the middle of the UK. Then why haven’t we implemented the legally required second round of sanctions for this exact WMD use? https://t.co/vjUSIuzI0u
— Sam Vinograd (@sam_vinograd) February 13, 2019
re the vaccines (and flu shot) i was gonna write that you have to wait till someone comes down with something. still even then they’d write it off to something else. and who wants to be ‘right’ that way?
this just happened:
a friend called me said he wanted to quit his job and move, look for a job in a few months
i said take the cobra. you only get one chance to opt in and you can always cancel it
he said no
i said what about your health insurance?
oh, i’ll pay the tax penalty (which is now at zero)
i said, no, what if you need insurance; you know at your age….?
crickets
so he went and did that. quit 4 weeks ago, didnt opt for cobra, packed and moved.
got a call today. he was off to urgent care last night because he couldnt walk
found a growth behind a knee. (it’s benign, probably a Baker cyst).
knee’s wrapped, on crutches, etc.
out of pocket for visit and supplies
out of pocket for ultrasound scheduled for friday
and is now seriously looking for health ins coverage
no that’s not the end
i heard the premiums and i said go on healthcare.gov.
you still qualify, life changing event, etc.
and there are tax credits, etc. it’ll cost you almost nothing…
he said no. ‘they’ told me not to.
i’m at the point, it’s not my money, it’s not my body, you’re an adult.
i dont know how i’d do it if i had kids
re: #227 William Lewis
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re: #229 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
re the vaccines (and flu shot) i was gonna write that you have to wait till someone comes down with something. still even then they’d write it off to something else. and who wants to be ‘right’ that way?
this just happened:
a friend called me said he wanted to quit his job and move, look for a job in a few months
i said take the cobra. you only get one chance to opt in and you can always cancel it
he said no
i said what about your health insurance?
oh, i’ll pay the tax penalty (which is now at zero)
i said, no, what if you need insurance; you know at your age….?
cricketsso he went and did that. quit 4 weeks ago, didnt opt for cobra, packed and moved.
got a call today. he was off to urgent care last night because he couldnt walk
found a growth behind a knee. (it’s benign, probably a Baker cyst).
knee’s wrapped, on crutches, etc.out of pocket for visit and supplies
out of pocket for ultrasound scheduled for friday
and is now seriously looking for health ins coverageno that’s not the end
i heard the premiums and i said go on healthcare.gov.
you still qualify, life changing event, etc.
and there are tax credits, etc. it’ll cost you almost nothing…he said no. ‘they’ told me not to.
i’m at the point, it’s not my money, it’s not my body, you’re an adult.
i dont know how i’d do it if i had kids
Your friend is an idiot.
re: #231 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Your friend is an idiot.
I skipped the COBRA coverage because by the time my previous insurance ran out (and I had to opt in or not), I had an offer in hand. The only problem was, my coverage didn’t kick in until the beginning of the next full month. I was an idiot, and lesson fully learned (thankfully, I didn’t owe a tax penalty for just missing the one month).
as i mentioned before the ‘schultz show’
A BILLIONAIRE FLIRTS with a run for president and gets grossly disproportionate free airtime.
a couple of quotes:
But scrutiny is weakened when the forum in which it’s administered confers a clear judgment of political legitimacy.
CNN does not deserve praise for grilling Schultz on his wealth when Schultz’s wealth is the only reason he was on CNN. As Vox’s Ezra Klein writes, “in American politics, money is a shortcut to legitimacy.” Shutting out uber-wealthy candidates, or at least waiting a minute until they’ve proven they’re serious, isn’t censorship or bias—it’s the media’s responsibility to conserve a level political playing field, organized around substantive issues of concern to the voting public.
But as political scientist Lee Drutman tells Klein, “the media uses ability to spend money as a proxy for seriousness of campaign. And when the media bestows seriousness on a candidate, the public follows along.”
This would be a good day for Trump to release his taxes AND the results of the physical exam he took five days ago.
re: #227 William Lewis
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re: #225 BlueGrl21
I have 3 of my 4 cousins, sisters who I love dearly, in the same place for the same reason. 11 children between them, none vaccinated. Makes me sick.
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i cant copy tweets:
.@jaketapper shows President Trump’s hypocrisy over Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar’s anti-Semitic tweet with a little help from a “rogue” control room.
Republicans just moved to adjourn @HouseJudiciary markup on #HR8, which closes loopholes on violent history checks for gun sales. Background checks have over 90% support among the American people, but @GOP wants to shut down the Committee. #GOP is on the wrong side of history. https://t.co/NdsYmP9MmM
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) February 13, 2019
Solidarity Fail: Grandson has moved to Denver just in time to have his 2nd grade teacher go on strike.
GS: “The teachers are on strike because they want more money.”
Mom: “They deserve more money.”
GS: “Yeah, but not the Art teacher, she’s mean.”
Elliott Abrams is a violent hack who’s spent his career lying to Congress and covering up war crimes and it’s honestly so satisfying to see him treated the way he deserves to be treated in a Congressional hearing https://t.co/sBJgrVQ0hL
— Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt) February 13, 2019
I love it how these crooks try out their Fox News performance art in the real world, only to be swatted down by reality. https://t.co/Dv9UeHoR4i
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 13, 2019
re: #241 Decatur Deb
Solidarity Fail:
Grandson has moved to Denver just in time to have his 2nd grade teacher go on strike.GS: “The teachers are on strike because they want more money.”
Mom: “They deserve more money.”
GS: “Yeah, but not the Art teacher, she’s mean.”
It’s always the damn art teachers. You gotta watch ‘em. Gateways to classic liberal thinking.
re: #226 NO SMOCKING GUN!
That is really, really fucked up.
This world can be so stupid and cruel sometimes.
re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg
That is really, really fucked up.
This world can be so stupid and cruel sometimes.
Yes. What possible purpose was served by that?
re: #231 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Your friend is an idiot.
professionally im a consultant. i cant tell people what to do. just what i think will happen. it spills over to friendships too
people get set in their ideas and after a while it’s very hard to change let alone influence them.
having followed a lot of the family issues other lizards face, i am fortunate that none of my family or friends are trump supporters. that is not by design nor cause i live in a bubble. it just worked out that way.
my ophthalmologist is a vocal trump fan. (i dont get why he thinks its a good idea to flaunt it in front of patients) it’s hard to say anything to him when hes got that thing poking in my eye.
re: #213 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
RWNJ “principles”
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Chairman is Jerry Nadler (NY) - I can’t see him putting up with too much in the way of Republican shenanigans
re: #219 ObserverArt
Can you imagine some of the talk in the backrooms of congress going on these days?
It has to be unprecedented.
“Why don’t these women know their place, waiting on their husbands outside the mosque?”
re: #244 ObserverArt
It’s always the damn art teachers.
I got a C on a high school art project once from a teacher who explained that I had made the sky “too blue.” Which was sort of mean, but also bizarre.
re: #252 jaunte
I got a C on a high school art project once from a teacher who explained that I had made the sky “too blue.” Which was sort of mean, but also bizarre.
I think we all know there is a right way and a wrong way to do art. Wouldn’t be responsible of that teacher to encourage you to stray from the path.
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If you think Howard Schultz gets too much TV attention, please note @CoryBooker got about 2 million more viewers with Rachel @maddow last night than Schultz got on CNN. And I beat Schultz in the same time slot without a presidential candidate with 1.2 million more viewers. https://t.co/6KFBL6rmlB
— Lawrence O’Donnell (@Lawrence) February 13, 2019
re: #240 jaunte
So the GOP can shut down a committee that they don’t control when they’re in the minority? I don’t get it.
re: #252 jaunte
I got a C on a high school art project once from a teacher who explained that I had made the sky “too blue.” Which was sort of mean, but also bizarre.
I’ve mentioned before here that I had a great art teacher at my high school. A Catholic nun that we called “Big Luke” because she was tall. St. Luke is the patron saint of the arts. She was into Klee, DeKooning, Surrealists, Impressionists and Cubists.
She was so good, I aced all three years of art history at the art college I went to.
I know one thing, there is no way she would have said the sky was too blue, she would have been questioning why there wasn’t some orange or green as reflective light?
Breaking. Manafort has been found to have lied in his cooperation in Russian probe.
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re: #256 Patricia Kayden
I think they want to, but haven’t.
re: #233 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
“the media uses ability to spend money as a proxy for seriousness of campaign.”
Because “the media” are almost all for-profit corporations, and election spending is a good revenue stream for them.
re: #257 ObserverArt
I told the teacher the sky was shading to ultramarine for the strong chromatic contrast to a red tile roof.
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“Chromatic?”
re: #255 Patricia Kayden
Someone needs to tell him (and CNN) that he has no base.
re: #260 jaunte
I think they want to, but haven’t.
It would be a true outrage if these “legislators” can behave so badly that they can prevent a committee discussion from proceeding.
White House aide and ex-golf caddy @DanScavino managed Trump’s Westchester golf club. Gabriel Sedano, an undoc immigrant who worked there for over a decade until he was fired last month, “said Scavino—like other managers—knew of their illegal status but looked the other way.”
— Gabe #DreamActNow Ortíz (@TUSK81) February 13, 2019
“…Gabriel Sedano, a Mexican national and worked at the club from 2005 until he was fired last month along with dozens of other immigrant employees at Trump properties in New York and New Jersey, said he knew of at least 30 undocumented workers at the Westchester club who were there without proper documentation.
Sedano said Scavino — like other managers — knew of their illegal status but looked the other way.
“He was involved in the hiring,” Sedano said. “If they needed more people, he would always have to say yes because he was the general manager. Everything went up to him.”
“It’s a crime to knowingly employ an immigrant unauthorized to work in the U.S.”
Hey there, Dan Scavino.
Robert Jeffress, the Beverley Leslie of Fake Christians, thinks people FOR Trump would have been AGAINST Nazis in 1930s?
People FOR Trump actually ARE Nazis in 2019.
But logic’s never a preoccupation for greedy, judgmental evangelics who “follow” Jesus.https://t.co/oD17zS4tiI— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) February 13, 2019
re: #266 Decatur Deb
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re: #263 KGxvi
Someone needs to tell him (and CNN) that he has no base.
Where did Trump get his base? He had no support at the beginning. Of course, unlike Schultz, Trump has a flamboyant personality that dominates the stage. He appeals to emotions — the worst emotions — and not intellect. In practice, style wins over substance 90% of the time.
re: #263 KGxvi
Someone needs to tell him (and CNN) that he has no base.
That was the point of the story I posted
He didn’t “merit” coverage.
They created merit (poorly) by giving the billionaire free airtime
re: #259 NO SMOCKING GUN!
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re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter
Where did Trump get his base? He had no support at the beginning. Of course, unlike Schultz, Trump has a flamboyant personality that dominates the stage. He appeals to emotions — the worst emotions — and not intellect. In practice, style wins over substance 90% of the time.
True, but Trump was running in a primary with 15 opponents (most of whom also didn’t have a base). Schultz is trying to run as an independent with no natural base. Perot had dissatisfied Republicans and Democrats he could draw from in 1992. Anderson had moderate Republicans he could draw from (not that he ended up being a factor). Schultz has nothing.
Calling out all the lizards… we are needed.
Fuck autism and more importantly, fuck me for being born with it. I’m just a monster because of it.
— SteelPH (@SteelPH) February 13, 2019
re: #269 Patricia Kayden
“Let me say this as charitably as I can,” Jeffress said, prefacing a statement that you just know was going to be as charitable as a loan shark. “These ‘Never Trump’ evangelicals are morons. They are absolutely spineless morons and they cannot admit that they were wrong.”
I’m don’t quite consider myself an evangelical but I certainly don’t think I’m a fucking moron because I, as a Christian, refuse to support a man who has managed to violate all Ten Commandments in a single day, been married three times, lies constantly, berates and insults those who are different and brags about how much money he supposedly has.
Jesus would have whipped this jackass out of the temple with all the others.
I don’t use Twitter but if I write a message, can someone send it to SteelPH for me?
re: #270 NO SMOCKING GUN!
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re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus
Anyone got an email Addy?
The U.S. budget deficit totaled $318.9 billion in the first quarter of the 2019 fiscal year, a 41.8% increase from the same period last year, according to Treasury Department datahttps://t.co/eQl6X6yKLy
— Axios (@axios) February 13, 2019
re: #281 Single-handed sailor
obviously, the answer is to zero out Medicare and Social Security, triple defense spending, and deport anyone who doesn’t have four grandparents that were born in this country, and then build a wall along both borders and all the coasts.
re: #285 KGxvi
obviously, the answer is to zero out Medicare and Social Security, triple defense spending, and deport anyone who doesn’t have four grandparents that were born in this country, and then build a wall along both borders and all the coasts.
And Tariffs. Can’t forget more Tariffs.
GOP leader: I only attacked prominent Jews because they were Democrats https://t.co/l1RUprX2gN
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 13, 2019
re: #68 A hollow voice says, Collusion!
But it’s another reason that we need herd immunity to depend on.
RARE is not a precise term. Chicken pox recurring after one is exposed again is frequent enough for them to not bother taking out their camera for a picture. In the past it was considered very possible for chicken pox second exposure to trigger shingles probably still is considered. Shingles can be fatal for vulnerable people.
re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus
Calling out all the lizards… we are needed.
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I’m not on Twitter but can someone tell him from one ASD to another, he’s a good dude and not a monster. And his contributions are always welcome.
This is why I love Speaker Pelosi.
Pelosi just reiterated this now, and said: “No” when asked if Omar would be removed from committees as GOP is demanding. “A newcomer member of Congress has apologized for her remarks. It took them what, 13 years to notice Steve King?” https://t.co/LUG0wsKxhu
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) February 13, 2019
re: #291 Patricia Kayden
This is why I love Speaker Pelosi.
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re: #176 Patricia Kayden
Porterfield may be the Platonic Ideal of ‘pig-eyes’.
re: #290 HappyWarrior
I’m not on Twitter but can someone tell him from one ASD to another, he’s a good dude and not a monster. And his contributions are always welcome.
I’m not on Twitter either but it would be good if those of us on Twitter send him support.
re: #103 lawhawk
Because the economic theory is that we want to encourage long term investment, so we tax that at a lower/preferential rate. Short term investments are not encouraged, so we tax them at the higher rate.
Never mind that the rates are still far too low, and could be higher without affecting long term investment or growth.
Lower taxes on investment means a higher rate of return. In theory, makes it more worthwhile to take the investment risk. It’s a big broad brush of a policy tool that is helpful in some cases and a giveaway in others. Mostly a giveaway to people with investments that have a robust return.
re: #293 HappyWarrior
Nancy looks out for her own.
She’s really growing on me. Like, seriously, she is rising in my estimation with every day she’s in charge, because she proves her cleverness and toughness more and more.
re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter
I’m not on Twitter either but it would be good if those of us on Twitter send him support.
Definitely.
re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
She’s really growing on me. Like, seriously, she is rising in my estimation with every day she’s in charge, because she proves her cleverness and toughness more and more.
We’re going to be in good hands when she steps down. She’s preparing a new generation quite well.
re: #263 KGxvi
Someone needs to tell him (and CNN) that he has no base.
Yeah. I’m always surprised when Democrats express concern that he’ll siphon off Democratic voters if he runs as an Independent in 2020. I seriously doubt that. He’s not even a Dr. Stein.
Just realized watching Maddow last night that Booker is up in the Senate in 2020. I’m assuming the Senate primary is at the same time as the presidential primary, in June? So he’ll probably have decided long before then if he’ll be out of the presidential race and back in the Senate.
re: #301 Patricia Kayden
Yeah. I’m always surprised when Democrats express concern that he’ll siphon off Democratic voters if he runs as an Independent in 2020. I seriously doubt that. He’s not even a Dr. Stein.
The votes he’d be most likely to get are from Republican or Republican leaning voters who are dissatisfied with Trump but not convinced to vote for the Democratic nominee. He does not seem like someone who is going to bring in new voters (which is something Trump managed to do, even if it wasn’t a huge number). So at the end of the day, it’s hard to see how he has a path to even 8% of the vote (Perot in ‘96), and if he can’t get on the debate stage, he’ll lose even more support.
re: #302 KGxvi
I don’t think we’ll see a repeat of a third party candidacy like Perot’s (that drew more from the GOP than from Democrats) any time soon.
One useful thing the GOP learned from their loss in 1996 is to become the fucking Borg in general elections. Meanwhile too many Democratic leaning voters get distracted from voting because of reasons like ‘I heard it from a friend who saw it on TV that the D candidate may have farted in public once, thirty years ago. I think I’ll stay home instead.’
So I see Shultz as either having no effect or helping Trump win reelection.
The Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act because racism is a thing of the past in the United States.
Florida woman makes racist threats against black deputy who arrested her: “My KKK friends will burn your family” https://t.co/NbWh0QRUn3 pic.twitter.com/0gao3nXWfO
— Newsweek (@Newsweek) February 14, 2019
re: #305 teleskiguy
VAWA - Violence Against Women Act is expiring because the GOP and Trump wont reauthorize.
VRA - Voting Rights Act - key provisions were gutted by Roberts and GOP controlled Congress refused to reauthorize the key provisions that would have reinstituted the law.
There’s a pattern here - the GOP are against civil and human rights.
re: #305 teleskiguy
The Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act because racism is a thing of the past in the United States.
I don’t condone undue violence by police against suspects, but if this cop “oopsied” her racist head into the top of the door frame of the patrol car several times while trying to secure her for transport, I wouldn’t shed a fucking tear.
“Fox News has rejected a national advertising buy for a 30-second spot that warns viewers about the potential dangers of American fascism.” https://t.co/xeARBMqk8K
— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) February 13, 2019
re: #302 KGxvi
Just realized watching Maddow last night that Booker is up in the Senate in 2020. I’m assuming the Senate primary is at the same time as the presidential primary, in June? So he’ll probably have decided long before then if he’ll be out of the presidential race and back in the Senate.
Was very impressed by Booker. Loved his style. The Democrats have a lot of really solid candidates (not Bernie or Tulsi of course), but I’m sure that the Russians and the Bernie Bros will attack and diminish each one of them.
Judge Amy Berman Jackson says Mueller prosecutors have proved 3 of the 5 examples they cite as occurrences when Manafort lied to them in the course of his cooperation and she agrees that prosecutors are no longer bound to recommend a lighter sentence. https://t.co/wX4A39anrY
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 13, 2019
Manafort is fucked (legal term).
Prosecutors are no longer bound by the sentencing agreement, which means that prosecutors can throw the book at Manafort, retry him on the additional charges, and dump him in a hole from which he will not reemerge unless some dumb fucking GOPer pardons him - in which case, he’ll be required to testify against that dumb fucking GOPer and all the rest of that dumb fucking GOPer’s cronies.
And yeah - that dumb fucking GOPer is Trump.
re: #309 Hecuba’s daughter
Was very impressed by Booker. Loved his style. The Democrats have a lot of really solid candidates (not Bernie or Tulsi of course), but I’m sure that the Russians and the Bernie Bros will attack and diminish each one of them.
Yeah, I liked him too. My top three are Harris, Booker, and Gillibrand in some order. I suspect the nominee will be one of those three or Warren. This might be the best Democratic field in my lifetime (that might also be generational bias on my part)
re: #234 jaunte
This would be a good day for Trump to release his taxes AND the results of the physical exam he took five days ago.
re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
As with any authoritarian organization with a top-down hierarchy, the ultimate responsibility for such malfeasance must also flow directly back to the top.
There are tens of thousands of freestanding churches out there. Plenty of problems there too, maybe more.
As you know, 25% isn’t 0%, and if he does lose he would have a good shot at a Cabinet post in the new Administration.
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) February 14, 2019
re: #313 NO SMOCKING GUN!
2020 isn’t likely to be as blue as 2018? Look, Nate, I respect the work you’ve done and I find it hard to doubt you, but you might need to do better at reading the political climate.
re: #314 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
National election. Cruz isn’t Corwyn. Trump would probably campaign for Corwyn. And he thinks that there might be a pushback against the 2018 wave election.
It’s a conservative take on things (as in not being aggressive or thinking that the political arena will revert to the mean).
re: #156 ObserverArt
Churches are guess what? Made up of humans.
Of course there are many churches that have pedophilia and many other abuse issues. They are made up of humans.
There are also people not in churches that are also abusers. I get the notifications in the mail all the time put out by Franklin County (OH) when one is moving into the area. Not many ex-priests or pastors on them.
I bet you many of those were known by their families who covered for them. Weird Uncle Ernie, fiddle about…fiddle about.
They’re everywhere!
Yes, I acknowledge some abusers go into some of these institutions for cover and convenience. There is probably a sick attraction involved. It’s been acknowledged for 30 years now in the Catholic Church as far as the public issue. It’s probably gone on forever. That may make some of the bigger churches a place they want to get into due to the history.
I’m not making light of this either.
The churches do cover for them, the same way their families cover for them. Embarrassment, legal, costs, family name protection, appearances, ignorance is bliss, etc.
What is going to be interesting is how the churches will handle this now and in the future. Will their be some kind of screening and much more attention given to personal record? Will they be much more watchful and have much more lack of privacy that lends itself?
I saw you mention the 1% of people like you that can still get some sicknesses repeatedly. You said 1% of the population of this country is a lot of people.
What is the percentage of this country’s population considered to be sexual abusers? I don’t know, but I bet it is higher than 1%.
In all the cases, they have to lose FAR FAR FAR more through coverup than the pain of shame
/desire to ignored. Right now, they ain’t scared of consequences of not rooting this out. Lose your church building and go to prison will bring the necessary focus. Or get the fuck out of the god business. You’re either serious or you’re not about rooting out criminal abuse.
re: #315 lawhawk
National election. Cruz isn’t Corwyn. Trump would probably campaign for Corwyn. And he thinks that there might be a pushback against the 2018 wave election.
It’s a conservative take on things (as in not being aggressive or thinking that the political arena will revert to the mean).
Nate’s the statistical expert. I’ve read most of his political articles, and I know exactly where he’s coming from. I just feel like the way this GOP administration is heading, it might be as much or more of a train wreck than 2018 was. However, that’s my gut feel against statistics and evidence, so.
re: #314 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
2020 isn’t likely to be as blue as 2018? Look, Nate, I respect the work you’ve done and I find it hard to doubt you, but you might need to do better at reading the political climate.
I assume the thinking is that with Trump on the ballot, assuming he runs again and his Administration hasn’t totally melted down, more of his base will turn out than they did in the midterms. But a lot could happen between now and election day to upset those assumptions.
OT: I bought a pair of Levis at Kohls recently but couldn’t take advantage of their “buy one get one half-price” offer because there was only one pair of the kind I like in my size. But I got a “Kohl’s Cash” certificate! All the fine print on the back could be condensed to: “not valid on items customers might actually want to buy.”
Hot wingnut on wingnut action. https://t.co/BcbeZCOoXK
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 13, 2019
re: #304 EPR-radar
. Meanwhile too many Democratic leaning voters get distracted from voting because of reasons like ‘I heard it from a friend who saw it on TV that the D candidate may have farted in public once, thirty years ago. I think I’ll stay home instead.’
So I see Shultz as either having no effect or helping Trump win reelection.
Have you been paying attention for the last two years?
re: #319 Barefoot Grin
I’ve found that Kohl’s cash and their deals are far better than the ones by Macy’s - where you get a 20% coupon and find that you can’t use it on anything.
re: #318 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I assume the thinking is that with Trump on the ballot, assuming he runs again and his Administration hasn’t totally melted down, more of his base will turn out than they did in the midterms. But a lot could happen between now and election day to upset those assumptions.
I mean, he got the 2016 election pretty well right, and he got the 2018 midterms even more right - almost spot on, in fact, which is astounding considering the huge variance in play in midterms. He’s got a decent track record and his methodology is usually sound. But there are so many variables still in play, and there’s a lot of time left on the clock before November 2020.
re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
She’s really growing on me. Like, seriously, she is rising in my estimation with every day she’s in charge, because she proves her cleverness and toughness more and more.
She’s been that good all along. She was a great leader even when dems were the minority party in the house.
Rep. Omar’s Tweet was thoughtless but she apologized for it. Trump HAS NEVER APOLOGIZED for all the things he has said which are much worse. Yes he is trafficking in hate. Have a nice day. #TheResistance #Resist
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2019
re: #322 lawhawk
I’ve found that Kohl’s cash and their deals are far better than the ones by Macy’s - where you get a 20% coupon and find that you can’t use it on anything.
I know it could work, but it doesn’t work for anything I want to buy.
Dude is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
I am a drug combination expert. You want to see what it’s like as the opposite sex for 3 hours? What being kissed by God feels like. You want the infinite experience if freedom? Knowledge of yourself? Eroticism that incinerates you? A simple good time? Forgetfulness? I’m your man
— John McAfee (@officialmcafee) February 13, 2019
re: #327 teleskiguy
Dude is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Dude fucking fried his last functioning brain cell long ago.
Those Charlotesville Tiki Torch patriots chanted “Jews will not replace us,”
Your boss called them “very fine people.”
You said nothing.
But @IlhanMN is brown, female & Muslim, and you know what the base likes.
Your umbrage is as selective as your Christianity. https://t.co/OAbneEsll4— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) February 13, 2019
re: #323 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I mean, he got the 2016 election pretty well right, and he got the 2018 midterms even more right - almost spot on, in fact, which is astounding considering the huge variance in play in midterms. He’s got a decent track record and his methodology is usually sound. But there are so many variables still in play, and there’s a lot of time left on the clock before November 2020.
Always have to remember the whole 2016 presidential election turned in October a week or so out.
You know it is way too early. Way too early.
re: #331 ObserverArt
As I have said before you cannot predict how the American public will vote until the votes are counted. Please do not try to predict how any election will turn out.
Challah. Final baking before Pesach. @KosherSoul pic.twitter.com/X5U8UsYInS
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 14, 2019
Very depressing thread if you’re non-cishet. And then my response-to-a-response:
2. First of all, the trans military ban will stand in 2020. SCOTUS has already telegraphed that they don’t see it doing any harm to transgender people and agree with the Administration’s bizarre claims. This will basically be a green light for government discrimination.
— Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) February 11, 2019
Sure looks that way to me. The problem is, very, very few countries will accept anyone of US origin who wouldn’t qualify to *immigrate TO the US outside the visa lottery* as of 2016. So I’m basically resigned to ‘becoming a man’ again, and my depression then killing me quick.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) February 14, 2019
Timelapse of the torchlight parade I did last weekend. I took up the rear of the red snake.
Still glowing from our Ski Spree weekend! Thanks again to everyone that came out, enjoyed & supported our event! #skispree #fireworks #fire #firedance #bang #blast #weekendvibes #vibes #views #weekendviews #thankyou #somuchtosmileabout
This is how you report the bucket kicking of a person that nobody will miss:
The political extremist who ran for president in every election from 1976 to 2004, including a campaign waged from federal prison, has died. He was 96.https://t.co/Ol8gLlv8bw
— WWJ950 (@WWJ950) February 14, 2019
re: #336 The Vicious Babushka
This is how you report the bucket kicking of a person that nobody will miss:
So he is actually, in fact, dead?
Coocoo for cocoa puffs:
What is next firing squads? Social collective justice provides no justice. Shariah Law provides no justice and Marxism has killed more people than all disease combined. Imagine what they will do when all rolled into one? https://t.co/UocMUNAPFt
— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) February 14, 2019
re: #339 goddamnedfrank
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She was a good girl. She will be appreciated when mankind finally goes to Mars. Maybe we will even charge her up and bring her back.
JUST IN: Judge finds that MANAFORT intentionally made false statements to MUELLER after agreeing to cooperate & that “the Office of Special Counsel is no longer bound by its obligations under the plea agreement, including its promise to support a reduction of the offense level…” pic.twitter.com/UAZsPd6x0C
— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) February 13, 2019
re: #338 lawhawk
Coocoo for cocoa puffs:
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Speaking of:
Tucker Carlson guest says Laura Loomer was a victim of “Silicone Valley Sharia,” says people “should have been listening” to her and calls her brave pic.twitter.com/NScv5bx9Nw
— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) February 14, 2019
re: #306 lawhawk
VAWA - Violence Against Women Act is expiring because the GOP and Trump wont reauthorize.
VRA - Voting Rights Act - key provisions were gutted by Roberts and GOP controlled Congress refused to reauthorize the key provisions that would have reinstituted the law.
There’s a pattern here - the GOP are against civil and human rights.
Why vawa should ever ‘expire’…
re: #133 Scottish Dragon
I’m really looking forward to the New Madrid event.
HEY! I resemble that… maybe… I’m a few hours north on the river system…
re: #301 Patricia Kayden
Yeah. I’m always surprised when Democrats express concern that he’ll siphon off Democratic voters if he runs as an Independent in 2020. I seriously doubt that. He’s not even a Dr. Stein.
He might have been a problem if he’d sounded like Bloomberg, because a whole lot of people would think that running Starbucks - with the company paying for some of college for employees - might sound good. But then he turns out to be the worst of everything.
re: #342 The Vicious Babushka
Which party plays identity politics (White Supremacism) more than the GOP? Talk about projection.
moron
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 14, 2019
California has been forced to cancel the massive bullet train project after having spent and wasted many billions of dollars. They owe the Federal Government three and a half billion dollars. We want that money back now. Whole project is a “green” disaster!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 14, 2019
and pretty sure he’s fucking full of shit
re: #336 The Vicious Babushka
He’s a nutjob who did a lot of harm, though not as much as he wanted to. Lord, May his name be forgotten by tomorrow.
re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Well, the CA high speed rail project was partially nixed in Newsom’s recent state of the state speech. But since CA has a competent government, it looks like the nixing was done in such a way as to avoid the claw-back provisions of the relevant Federal grants.
So Trump is just cluelessly hating on CA, for the entertainment of his base of deliberately brain-dead yokels, yahoos and morons.
re: #314 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
2020 isn’t likely to be as blue as 2018? Look, Nate, I respect the work you’ve done and I find it hard to doubt you, but you might need to do better at reading the political climate.
He got it better than a lot of people in 2016.
I agree with him on Cornyn. The only way Cornyn loses is if Texas goes blue in 2020. For that to happen, Cornyn will have to be found with two live boys, a dead girl, and Trump.
re: #350 EPR-radar
Well, the CA high speed rail project was partially nixed in Newsom’s recent state of the state speech. But since CA has a competent government, it looks like the nixing was done in such a way as to avoid the claw-back provisions of the relevant Federal grants.
So Trump is just cluelessly hating on CA, for the entertainment of his base of deliberately brain-dead yokels, yahoos and morons.
And probably trying to get some bucks out of the state to pay for more wall.
He’s trying to get that money any way he can.
We might have Federal Bake Sales to Fund The Wall™.
Buy expensive cookies from a recipe created by The Lovely Ivanka™.
A dozen cookies, two red hats all sent to you for $50!
Quantities limited.
re: #345 teleskiguy
Not gonna lie, I kinda hope it does too. The earth needs to purge.
re: #305 teleskiguy
The Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act because racism is a thing of the past in the United States.
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Kitty Forman turned nasty when they moved to Florida.
I thought they decided against that…
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re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s lying. It isn’t cancelled, the route has been shortened to get it up and running.
re: #355 A Mom Anon
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re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron
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and pretty sure he’s fucking full of shit
The irony of Trump complaining about not getting paid is certainly delicious.
re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
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re: #235 Mike Lamb
My wife just got an E-mail from the DCCC with a moderately-fast flashing .gif.
She wrote back and told them to get rid of that sort of thing and noted it’s good I’m no longer signed up with them.
Frequently conservatives will troll people like Kurt Eichenwald (famous) or me (not famous) saying we should “get off the Internet then.”
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