In Which Donald Trump Hijacks Independence Day and Turns It Into a Militaristic Campaign Event

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I think I’ve made my opinion known about Donald Trump’s grotesque jingoistic ego-gratifying July 4th “Salute to America.”

And here’s a good piece by Greg Sargent, arguing that Trump’s hijacking of the Fourth of July just got a lot uglier.

As many critics have pointed out, by politicizing the Fourth of July so nakedly, Trump has inevitably transformed the celebration into a campaign event. It remains to be seen whether he will do so explicitly in his speech, but either way, that conversion has already been implicitly accomplished.

It’s the melding of that fact with the particular display Trump is putting on that makes this so ugly. The showcasing of military might, Trump’s association of himself with it, and the unabashed conversion of a paean to the nation’s founding into a reelection event — what it all amounts to is larger than the sum of its parts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:50:38am

Tasteless overkill and cluelessness.

He really did get a boner watching Macron’s and Putin’s parades and demanded his own.

I am glad that the Military put its foot down.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:51:38am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:52:08am

The ever-vigilant comrades at DPRK News bring troof to the masses:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:54:19am

People say, ‘If Trump is reelected, America is fucked’.

But I gotta tell you. I’m feeling like we’re pretty much fucked already.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:54:55am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:58:00am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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He’s only becoming more and more emboldened in his bullshitting. His experience as President is telling him that not only are there no consequences to telling total fabrications, but also at least 40% of America will believe HIS WORDS over the evidence of their own eyes and experience.

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2019 • 11:58:56am

Everything Trump touches dies. #ETTD

Trump is clueless about the economy, economics, and world trade. He thinks manipulating the dollar will somehow help the US? It will only make the current trade war worse, since that’s what it does. It’s likely to hike costs to consumers here, and it will slow the economy further. It will have the opposite effect from what Trump envisions.

This is due to having reactionary know nothing advisers surrounding him telling Trump what he wants to hear, instead of what he needs to hear.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:00:03pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Who ya gonna believe? The greatest MAGA POTUS ever or your own lying eyes?

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:01:36pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:02:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:03:08pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

People say, ‘If Trump is reelected, America is fucked’.

But I gotta tell you. I’m feeling like we’re pretty much fucked already.

If he is not reelected, it will take decades to recover.

If he is re-elected, we will never recover.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:03:27pm

re: #7 lawhawk

This is due to having reactionary know nothing advisers surrounding him telling Trump what he wants to hear, instead of what he needs to hear.

The bigger problem is that even if these advisers did in fact tell Trump what he needs to hear, he’d simply disregard them, no matter how strongly they presented their case.

Because it’s not what Trump wants to hear and if he doesn’t want to hear it, there’s nothing they can do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:04:18pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

The bigger problem is that even if these advisers did in fact tell Trump what he needs to hear, he’d simply disregard them, no matter how strongly they presented their case.

Because it’s not what Trump wants to hear and if doesn’t want to hear it, there’s nothing they can do.

Which is why he gets only scammers and sycophants around him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:04:31pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

People say, ‘If Trump is reelected, America is fucked’.

But I gotta tell you. I’m feeling like we’re pretty much fucked already.

One big reason - outrage fatigue. Mrs. FBW, who started watching the news religiously after Trump was elected, has now stopped watching it entirely. I think initially it made her feel like she wasn’t alone in her anger and dismay, that there were tens of millions who felt the same.

Now, 2 1/2 years later, it just makes her anxious without any feeling of power.

Meanwhile, Trump just keeps going. Remember about 6 months back, when we felt we’d scored a victory because Kirsten Nielsen resigned and DHS was going to end the child separation policy?

So, how do things look now? They look worse, don’t they. Trump runs into resistance and makes a feint at retreat, then just keeps going. Weak people who compromised their humanity resign and are replaced with genuinely horrible people.

And everyone trying to resist this gets worn out.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:04:34pm

The Kremlin’s 2020 offensive has been launched on multiple fronts.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:04:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:04:57pm

Imagine if you’d been in suspended animation for the past 4 years, then woke up to this.

The amount Trump has degraded America’s institutions and reputation would absolutely blow your mind. I never thought so much could be lost so quickly.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:05:38pm

The D0nald: The Citizenship question is on the Census, Beleive Me!

Everybody else:

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:09:00pm

re: #18 Sir John Barron

The D0nald: The Citizenship question is on the Census, Beleive Me!

Everybody else:

We do that at our own peril. It is on the census, because 3 hours ago he literally said “John Roberts has made his decision; now let him enforce it”, and SCOTUS no more has a police force to seize the illegal forms next March than it had an army to guard the edges of Cherokee and Chickasaw territory in 1830.

This is literally a high crime that should be enough by itself to get him convicted, but the Rs in the senate will still merely circle the elephants.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:10:28pm

Fucking Republicans.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:10:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:11:28pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:13:19pm

re: #20 jaunte

Puerto Ricans seeking Georgia driver’s licenses have to answer special questions about frogs and plantains

yes, because Donald’s botched hurricane response has led to thousands of Puerto Ricans leaving to where they can vote, and not likely for the GOP.

That own goal has to be countered by other remedies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:15:50pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:21:08pm

Proud Boys etc on twitter gearing up to shoot any ‘antifa’ they see based on fake reports of “concrete shakes” in Portland.

I expect serious trouble tomorrow. Somebody is going to get hurt. Somebody might get killed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:22:07pm

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

I fear the same thing. :(

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:22:23pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:22:48pm

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

Proud Boys etc on twitter gearing up to shoot any ‘antifa’ they see based on fake reports of “concrete shakes” in Portland.

I expect serious trouble tomorrow. Somebody is going to get hurt. Somebody might get killed.

Things have to get a lot worse before they can begin to get any better…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:23:42pm

I’m not seeing this in the American media, but the story is now in the Czech media.

This is via Google Translate: in spoiler tag, as it’s rather long.

Click to Reveal

Russian bathyscaphe, on whose deck 14 people died on Tuesday, was said by the Russian media to have been designed to cut submarine Internet cables. The submarine is now based at Severomorska in the Murmansk region of northwest Russia. The Kremlin said earlier on Wednesday that some of the information, including the functions of the bathyscaphe, are a state secret.

President Vladimir Putin canceled an event due to the disaster and met Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu instead. According to TASS, he ordered him to fly to Severomorska and arrange for a thorough investigation of the causes of the fire on the spot, as well as the provision of survivors’ assistance. “When I return, personally report to me,” Putin ordered. The President’s spokesman on Wednesday said some information about the accident is a state secret.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who had arrived in Severomorska to investigate the incident, was not much more common on Wednesday. He said that the fire broke out on the scientific-research deep-sea apparatus of the Russian naval fleet in planned research in the Russian territorial waters of the Barents Sea. “14 crew members died. The others were saved, “he said, without specifying the number of rescuers.

E-mails and billions of dollars go through submarine cables
According to him, the people on board were “unique military specialists - highly qualified professionals who did important research on the Earth’s hydrosphere.”

The Russian press also came up with information about the alleged submarine function. According to RBK and Novaja Gazeta, it was supposed to be an AS-12 vessel equipped with a nuclear propulsion unit designed to cut undersea cables. They keep the Internet running around the world. However, both Russian media outlets cite anonymous sources.

The AS-12 submarine first appeared in 2003, but its particular equipment was and still is largely subject to rumors. The Russian government has been doing great secrets around her, she writes, among other things, the Business Insider server , referring to Radio Free Europe. For example, in 2012, the submarine participated in a survey aimed at confirming Russia’s demands for expanding the borders of its Arctic continental shelf. According to official statements at that time, she collected samples from a depth of 2500 meters. Normal submarines can only dive to 600 meters.

American and other Western experts have warned for a long time that the Russians are moving around fiber-optic cables through which millions of emails, text messages and other trillions of dollars from international transactions go through daily.

lidovky.cz

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:24:08pm
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calochortus  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:25:14pm

re: #20 jaunte

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Fucking Republicans.

Huh. Seems PR birth certificates before 2010 aren’t proof of identity. I wonder why something a person over 18 or 19 years old use as ID isn’t valid as an ID? What do 18 year olds get to do that 17 year olds don’t? ‘Tis a mystery.
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:25:33pm
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marcusgorillius  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:26:58pm

The other day my wife had a Christian radio station on the kitchen radio. A story came on about the humanitarian crises on the southern border so I listened in. It was about how A.O.C. Screamed at the guards and how democrats have no respect for law. Trump has tanks at the Lincoln Memorial. You are witnessing the downfall of America right before your eyes.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:28:05pm

re: #33 marcusgorillius

The other day my wife had a Christian radio station on the kitchen radio. A story came on about the humanitarian crises on the southern border so I listened in. It was about how A.O.C. Screamed at the guards and how democrats have no respect for law. Trump has tanks at the Lincoln Memorial. You are witnessing the downfall of America right before your eyes.

What did your wife think of it?

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:29:21pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Congressional Dems send a strongly-worded letter while they wait for the latest lawsuit to grind its way through the bowels of the judicial system.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:30:29pm

re: #33 marcusgorillius

What did your wife say after she heard that?

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:30:58pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:32:06pm

re: #33 marcusgorillius

The other day my wife had a Christian radio station on the kitchen radio. A story came on about the humanitarian crises on the southern border so I listened in. It was about how A.O.C. Screamed at the guards and how democrats have no respect for law. Trump has tanks at the Lincoln Memorial. You are witnessing the downfall of America right before your eyes.

Much of Christianity in America has long since ceased to have anything to do with Christ.

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marcusgorillius  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:32:29pm

re: #34 MsJ

She was not in the room but she does not approve

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:32:31pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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As if we needed further proof that this is nothing more than an over-glorified campaign rally being run on the taxpayer dime.

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Mescalero09  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:36:46pm

I’d like a repeat of 1970 tomorrow at the Reflection Pool.
That would be a start.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:41:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:41:48pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:42:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:43:49pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

One big reason - outrage fatigue. Mrs. FBW, who started watching the news religiously after Trump was elected, has now stopped watching it entirely. I think initially it made her feel like she wasn’t alone in her anger and dismay, that there were tens of millions who felt the same.

Now, 2 1/2 years later, it just makes her anxious without any feeling of power.

Meanwhile, Trump just keeps going. Remember about 6 months back, when we felt we’d scored a victory because Kirsten Nielsen resigned and DHS was going to end the child separation policy?

So, how do things look now? They look worse, don’t they. Trump runs into resistance and makes a feint at retreat, then just keeps going. Weak people who compromised their humanity resign and are replaced with genuinely horrible people.

And everyone trying to resist this gets worn out.

Learn to husband your outrage, a tiny cordial when it’s most enjoyable.

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marcusgorillius  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:43:52pm

re: #41 Mescalero09

Amen brother!!!

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mmmirele  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:45:02pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

That the translation uses the very specific word bathyscaphe is intriguing to me. A normal sub can’t dive to the depths below a few hundred meters. Bathyscaphes can dive to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. If you were going to cut undersea cables, a bathyscaphe would be the way to go.

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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:45:17pm

from Juanita Jean:

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:45:19pm

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

Proud Boys etc on twitter gearing up to shoot any ‘antifa’ they see based on fake reports of “concrete shakes” in Portland.

I expect serious trouble tomorrow. Somebody is going to get hurt. Somebody might get killed.

If they do, the response cannot be hiding. It has to be coming out in even bigger numbers.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:46:13pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:46:33pm

The global shitstorm is getting to me. As usual, I will try to look on the bright side, possibly by investing in guillotine futures.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:46:44pm

re: #41 Mescalero09

I’d like a repeat of 1970 tomorrow at the Reflection Pool.
That would be a start.

Who’s planning it? I hope (heh) a lot of people aren’t just hoping it will happen.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:48:22pm

re: #25 Scottish Dragon

Proud Boys etc on twitter gearing up to shoot any ‘antifa’ they see based on fake reports of “concrete shakes” in Portland.

I expect serious trouble tomorrow. Somebody is going to get hurt. Somebody might get killed.

If a can of Arizona Tea or a toy gun is enough for these fascist freaks to justify killing Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice, then of course milkshake is a good excuse to open fire.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:49:09pm

Caged child’s self-portrait.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:49:18pm

It’s going to be a total shit show tomorrow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:49:45pm

re: #41 Mescalero09

I’d like a repeat of 1970 tomorrow at the Reflection Pool.
That would be a start.

I hope not. After all, Nixon was reelected in 1972. And that is one thing we will not survive as a nation — the reelection of Trump.

Of course, the GOP fanatics were frothing at the mouth over Obama. So I suppose that it is remotely possible that somehow we will get through even a second term of Trump. After all, he hasn’t started a war and isn’t bombing Cambodia.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:50:21pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:50:23pm

re: #47 mmmirele

That the translation uses the very specific word bathyscaphe is intriguing to me. A normal sub can’t dive to the depths below a few hundred meters. Bathyscaphes can dive to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. If you were going to cut undersea cables, a bathyscaphe would be the way to go.

The Czech language original uses the term also (in Czech, obviously: batyskaf).

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:50:30pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Imagine if you’d been in suspended animation for the past 4 years, then woke up to this.

The amount Trump has degraded America’s institutions and reputation would absolutely blow your mind. I never thought so much could be lost so quickly.

it’s only been four years?
not four hundred?

can you put me back to sleep?

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:50:31pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

Yet.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:53:03pm

re: #20 jaunte

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Fucking Republicans.

blatant

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:53:22pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:53:31pm

re: #57 Belafon

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:54:26pm

re: #55 Ace Rothstein

It’s going to be a total shit show tomorrow.

So, a typical Thursday since January 2017.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:54:58pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

I’m not seeing this in the American media, but the story is now in the Czech media.

This is via Google Translate: in spoiler tag, as it’s rather long.

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lidovky.cz

As far as I can tell, this is quite similar to the US Navy’s NR-1, a deep-diving nuclear-powered submersible launched in 1969 and in service till 2008.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:56:37pm

re: #63 Scottish Dragon

I haz helpd ratio tooooo.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:56:42pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:58:32pm
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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:58:44pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

As far as I can tell, this is quite similar to the US Navy’s NR-1, a deep-diving nuclear-powered submersible launched in 1969 and in service till 2008.

That was a possible volunteer choice when I was in the Navy as a nuke electrician. The crew is so small that the even the nuke people serve multiple roles. You might have reactor duty one day, and working on the galley’s ovens the next.

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ericblair  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:58:56pm

re: #47 mmmirele

That the translation uses the very specific word bathyscaphe is intriguing to me. A normal sub can’t dive to the depths below a few hundred meters. Bathyscaphes can dive to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. If you were going to cut undersea cables, a bathyscaphe would be the way to go.

The design of these things, as we know of it, is to have several bathyspheres connected together and then covered with a more conventional submarine shell that’s unpressurized. It can descend to multiple thousands of meters. Two of its possible missions would be intercepting communications on undersea cables or destroying them. There’s some satellite communications backup for these cables, but it’s expensive and would be only for high priority communications. Cutting the cables would cripple internet communications.

There was some talk about this vessel (the Losharik) trying to retrieve a nuclear powered submarine drone. I don’t know if this is the case.

Whatever they were doing, fire on a submarine is a submariner’s worst nightmare and it would have been a horrible way to go.

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marcusgorillius  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:59:41pm

It’s been two and half years of bullshit. I keep thinking to myself that this shit can’t go on much longer, but it does. Trump is getting away with everything and the Democrats just watch. I realize they are limited to what they can do but somebody needs to fucking LEAD! We’re losing this country to a bunch of assholes. Maybe it’s what we deserve. Their is so much indifference in this country. Nobody gives shit as long as you don’t mess their little world up. I am a lifelong democrat but what would give to have alittle Ronald Reagan right now.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 12:59:52pm

re: #41 Mescalero09

I’d like a repeat of 1970 tomorrow at the Reflection Pool.
That would be a start.

take over the damn narrative

if a semi disorganized group of say 10,000 started walking towards the ‘vip’ area, what are they gonna do to stop it? build a wall?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:00:59pm

re: #70 ericblair

Whatever they were doing, fire on a submarine is a submariner’s worst nightmare and it would have been a horrible way to go.

Brings back memories of the Kursk disaster

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Dread Pirate  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:01:05pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:03:21pm

“…When it was almost time to leave, Sevier asked to see a 3-year-old girl, and then two other children. But by that point, the friendly and accommodating Border Patrol agent assisting her earlier in the day had been replaced by a dour guard, wearing a surgical mask, who claimed that he couldn’t find the toddler. “We can wait,” Sevier said, as she recalled to me in an interview. Her tone was polite but firm; she knew that she had the right under a federal court settlement to examine whomever she liked.

“She’s having a bath,” Sevier recalled the guard as saying, a luxury one official told her is available only to babies removed from their guardians. In the facility’s standard cages, there is no soap or showering for the kids. Though 72 hours is the longest a minor can be legally confined in such a facility, some had been there almost a month. Sevier waited.

Finally, the guard returned with news. He had found the girls after all. “We located the bodies,” he said, in paramilitary slang. “I’ll bring them right in.”

Got to make sure we’re dehumanizing the dangerous 3 year olds with paramilitary slang.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:03:42pm

re: #74 Dread Pirate

What is a “National Committeewoman?”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:03:44pm

One of my favorite things about Twitter is when someone who doesn’t follow you and doesn’t know anything about you jumps into your replies with a condescending lecture about something you’ve been writing about for years. Usually accompanied with a gratuitous insult of some kind.

And if you reply and point any of this out they get even more condescending and insulting.

(Disclaimer: not really one of my favorite things about Twitter.)

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:03:53pm

re: #72 DangerMan

take over the damn narrative

if a semi disorganized group of say 10,000 started walking towards the ‘vip’ area, what are they gonna do to stop it? build a wall?

You’re kidding, right?

Any personnel that the Rezident trusts to work security for THIS event would fire live ammo at the entire group.

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ericblair  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:04:44pm

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brings back memories of the Kursk disaster

I would assume that’s why Putin is having emergency meetings and sending the defense minister (Shoigu) off to take care of things. The Kursk was a huge black eye for Putin, who was fucking off for days on vacation while the rest of the Russian government was lying its ass off about the state of the Kursk. So he’s trying to make sure he won’t look like that again.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:05:01pm

re: #68 MsJ

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Impeachment won’t happen because Nancy genuinely seems to believe that any sort of opposition to Trump from Congress will only help him next November. See also: Avoiding a fight with the White House over CBP funding in exchange for an empty promise not to make any changes…but simply to give her timely info about deaths of refugees in US custody.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:06:01pm

re: #57 Belafon

Those aren’t tanks, those are armored personnel carriers. Like our president, they have little guns and an empty belly that needs a lot of filling up before they’re effective

they had to be towed in. weak. sad.
are they taking them off the flat beds or is this it?
cause that’s a weak-ass way to project strength

(yes i know why)

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marcusgorillius  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:07:11pm

I wonder if Putin and Kim Jong got invited?

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:07:23pm

re: #74 Dread Pirate

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“New approach.” These fuckers really do see the conversion of July 4th into a campaign rally for their party’s leader as the way forward.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:07:58pm

Prosecutors have dropped the absurd charges against the Alabama woman whose pregnancy was lost after a shooting.

alreporter.com

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:07:58pm

re: #67 Scottish Dragon

Trump really, really wants to force the issue of impeachment no matter how assiduously Pelosi avoids it.

im hoping she’s waiting till he trips over his tie, and then whammo!

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:09:05pm

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Prosecutors have dropped the absurd charges against the Alabama woman whose pregnancy was lost after a shooting.

alreporter.com

I’ve little doubt they made this choice not because it was absolutely horrid to ever think such a thing was right and moral…but because they got caught and couldn’t handle the negative press.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:09:20pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I had to stop watching The a Goldbergs because Sirota is friends with people involved with that show.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:10:32pm

re: #81 DangerMan

they had to be towed in. weak. sad.
are they taking them off the flat beds or is this it?
cause that’s a weak-ass way to project strength

(yes i know why)

Someone posted a photo of tanks in Eisenhower’s inaugural parade. Those are M48s, weighing 45T, about 2/3 of an Abrams.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:11:13pm

re: #70 ericblair

I could swear I read that the Russians lost some underwater naval hardware a few months back - maybe a bit longer.

Is that what they were looking for?

Well, I’m calling it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:12:03pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Someone posted a photo of tanks in Eisenhower’s inaugural parade. Those are M48s, weighing 45T, about 2/3 of an Abrams.

These are the AR-15 = Brown Bess people, after all.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:16:09pm

re: #78 Chrysicat

You’re kidding, right?

Any personnel that the Rezident trusts to work security for THIS event would fire live ammo at the entire group.

i was going for ‘the wall’ but yeah

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:16:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:19:01pm

Just saw this, so any Lizards in the Los Angeles area - particularly around Glendale and environs - keep your eyes peeled for this missing person.

Vahe Ghazarian, age 20, autistic (possibly non-verbal if approached) last seen around the Maple Park area. Missing since 7/1/2019.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:21:00pm

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:21:59pm

and this

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:25:53pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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That really is the question I want to pose to the Dem leadership: “Then what?” We’re supposed to be thrilled about Robert Mueller testifying before Congress months after it would have made a major splash in the pond, but then what? We’ve got all these court cases against Trump over testimony, over documents, and over WH secrecy. But supposing we won them all tomorrow, then what?

There really doesn’t seem to be anything on the other side of the equation.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:26:31pm

Mother Jones obtained a photo of a card that is being distributed to participating service members with instructions from the Pentagon about what to say—and not to say—when speaking with members of the media. The Department of Defense would like service members to be clear that they are “proud” on several levels. Under the overall messages, the guide suggests: “I am proud of my job and my vehicle/tank. I am glad to share my experience with American People.” It also proposes that they say: “I am proud to honor the Nation and the Armed Forces during this Independence Day Celebration.”

That’s followed by “Dos” and “Don’ts,”—do “smile and have fun,” don’t guess, lie*, or speculate.” And the card closes with general tips for talking to a reporter. “Relax and speak to America,” it recommends.

*Reserved for senior personnel, Executive Branch.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:28:39pm

re: #97 jaunte

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*Reserved for senior personnel, Executive Branch.

Shorter card: “Don’t think, just smile and wave.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:32:05pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Shorter card: “Don’t think, just smile and wave.”

“P.S. Don’t give toddlers a ride on your muzzle reference sensor.”

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:32:09pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

That really is the question I want to pose to the Dem leadership: “Then what?” We’re supposed to be thrilled about Robert Mueller testifying before Congress months after it would have made a major splash in the pond, but then what? We’ve got all these court cases against Trump over testimony, over documents, and over WH secrecy. But supposing we won them all tomorrow, then what?

There really doesn’t seem to be anything on the other side of the equation.

as i posted downstairs this AM re as to the tax return lawsuit and drama (edited down)
- the Supreme Court orders Mnuchin to turn over Trump’s tax returns
- Trump may order him to refuse.
- This would probably trigger the House to impeach Mnuchin.
- Trump may order all the senators not up in 2020 and those up but not vulnerable to vote for acquittal
- At that point, what could Neal do?

- there’s only so much power and it takes time to line up the ducks
- and as we’re seeing there are inherent weaknesses in the system when one side ignores the norms and conventions and starts pushing the limits further than anyone ever figured
- and even if the other side (dems) did that to, what exactly can they do?

this is just one example of hundreds

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:32:24pm

re: #97 jaunte

[Embedded content]… , the guide suggests: “I am proud of my job and my vehicle/tank. I am glad to share my experience with American People.” It also proposes that they say: “I am proud to honor the Nation and the Armed Forces during this Independence Day Celebration.”

*Reserved for senior personnel, Executive Branch.

Be grateful it doesn’t say “I am proud to honor the President ”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:32:42pm

COLUMBUS - A federal judge has temporarily blocked Ohio’s ban on abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected.

U.S. District Judge Michael Barrett in Cincinnati granted a preliminary injunction against Senate Bill 23 on Wednesday. In a 12-page order, Barrett, who was nominated by President George W. Bush, concluded Ohio abortion clinics challenging the law were likely to prevail.

“This court concludes that SB 23 places an ‘undue burden’ on a woman’s right to choose a pre-viability abortion, and … plaintiffs are certain to succeed on the merits of their claim,” Barrett wrote.

The law, passed by Ohio’s GOP-controlled Legislature and signed by Republican Gov. Mike DeWine, would have penalized doctors who performed abortions after a fetal heartbeat was detected - as early as six weeks gestation with a transvaginal ultrasound.

Barrett noted that six weeks gestation is just two weeks after a woman’s missed menstrual period, and attorneys for the state did not provide testimony that viability exists at that stage.

“A woman with irregular periods likely will be denied the opportunity to seek an abortion altogether because she will not realize that she is pregnant in time to choose her fate,” Barrett wrote.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:33:16pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:36:01pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

THE MICROPHONE IS ALWAYS ON!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:38:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:38:10pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:38:27pm

re: #105 Ace Rothstein

THE MICROPHONE IS ALWAYS ON!!!

Issue one to congresscritters.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:40:40pm

re: #100 DangerMan

as i posted downstairs this AM re as to the tax return lawsuit and drama (edited down)
- the Supreme Court orders Mnuchin to turn over Trump’s tax returns
- Trump may order him to refuse.
- This would probably trigger the House to impeach Mnuchin.
- Trump may order all the senators not up in 2020 and those up but not vulnerable to vote for acquittal
- At that point, what could Neal do?

- there’s only so much power and it takes time to line up the ducks
- and as we’re seeing there are inherent weaknesses in the system when one side ignores the norms and conventions and starts pushing the limits further than anyone ever figured
- and even if the other side (dems) did that to, what exactly can they do?

this is just one example of hundreds

I’m not sure if I said it here, but this is the reason I don’t ever expect Trump to be impeached, and why I believe the leadership is dragging their feet every step of the way. The closer we get to the primaries, the convention, and then the election itself, the easier it is to complain about how there’s “No time” to do anything other than pray that we win next November. And that Mueller’s testimony is not a vital part of building a case, but is just another exhibit in a meandering sideshow of a “fight” that will never go anywhere.

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plansbandc  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:41:55pm

re: #95 DangerMan

Tweeting the second one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:42:00pm

..

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:42:50pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Dems are making the same mistake with Hillary assuming that they/she will win.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:43:25pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Tomorrow is gonna be an absolute shitshow. His handlers will try to force him to stay to a nonpartisan script, but that only ever leads to him sounding like he’s been pumped full of tranquilizers. So he’ll go off-script, and when he does he’ll knock down the idea of this being a “nonpartisan” celebration and turn it into a massive campaign rally that is all about how awesome he is and how “treasonous” his critics are.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:44:31pm

Of course, the outrage over Nike is complete bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:45:22pm

what an asshat

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:45:51pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Like the blind squirrel tripping over a nut, Trump does make an admission of truth. That the people we’re paying to watch over these concentration camps are not trained to handle medical issues and so act as if that’s not part of their job.

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The Artist Formerly Known as Irenicum  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:48:33pm

Looking for synonym for Monosyllabic Malignant Narcissist:

Oh yeah, Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:48:58pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:50:08pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Say “I am proud of my job and my vehicle/tank.”

Also “Say there are five lights.”

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:51:59pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

…..Now, if you really want to fix the Crisis at the Southern Border, both humanitarian and otherwise, tell migrants not to come into our country unless they are willing to do so legally, and hopefully through a system based on Merit. This way we have no problems at all!

this is asinine
they are here and you incarcerated them and made yourself responsible.
you created this mess
you have to deal with it
treating them as sub-human is not dealing with it
pretending it’s not your fault or responsibility is not dealing with it

saying they shouldnt come here - or only based on criteria that do not exist is asinine

is your solution to climate change to “tell” the polar caps not to melt?

you govern like you’re a child

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:52:59pm

JFC…

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:53:02pm

re: #113 Targetpractice

Tomorrow is gonna be an absolute shitshow. His handlers will try to force him to stay to a nonpartisan script, but that only ever leads to him sounding like he’s been pumped full of tranquilizers. So he’ll go off-script, and when he does he’ll knock down the idea of this being a “nonpartisan” celebration and turn it into a massive campaign rally that is all about how awesome he is and how “treasonous” his critics are.

- and Hatch Act
- and then yeah “What next?”

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:54:44pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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I think after seeing the card, the idea that the DoD are unwilling participants in this whole farce can be discounted.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:55:11pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

Like the blind squirrel tripping over a nut, Trump does make an admission of truth. That the people we’re paying to watch over these concentration camps are not trained to handle medical issues and so act as if that’s not part of their job.

where the real, simple solution is to get trained people to handle the problem as it exists, not as he wished it were (with no ‘illegals’ in custody because they all stayed home)

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:56:44pm

TFW you get a 4th of July sale ad from a British knife and crossbow maker…

😎

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:57:14pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Someone posted a photo of tanks in Eisenhower’s inaugural parade. Those are M48s, weighing 45T, about 2/3 of an Abrams.

Eisenhower was a general who commanded US & Allied forces in Europe. If any President ever deserved tanks, it would be Ike.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:57:25pm

re: #124 DangerMan

where the real, simple solution is to get trained people to handle the problem as it exists, not as he wished it were (with no ‘illegals’ in custody because they all stayed home)

That really assumes that Donny views sick and dying refugees as a problem. From all indications, he sees that as beneficial to his plan to scare future refugees into “turning back.” That if they get here, all that will happen is they’ll be put in cages and left to rot (perhaps literally).

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:58:00pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the Betsy Ross Flag, the flag of the American Revolution, is too offensive for Nike to commemorate The 4th of July maybe Nike should go with this… seems to be more in line with their views.

nike - #1 in global footwear

Don, they’re capitalists

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:59:23pm

re: #125 William Lewis

TFW you get a 4th of July sale ad from a British knife and crossbow maker…

😎

Crossbows are anathema anyway. The Church was right to ban them.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 1:59:25pm

re: #123 Targetpractice

I think after seeing the card, the idea that the DoD are unwilling participants in this whole farce can be discounted.

Not that significant, just minimal precaution from the Public Affairs types. Tankers are a bit….”direct”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:00:36pm

re: #122 DangerMan

- and Hatch Act
- and then yeah “What next?”

I think we all know that answer to “What next?” Donny’s going to go out there tomorrow to act like a third-world dictator, then return home to televised fellatio courtesy of Faux, who will act as if this was the greatest presidential speech since Washington gave his inaugural address. And that will spur him to look for ways to not only politicize other national holidays, but to increase the size and scope of next year’s July 4th campaign rally because the public spectacle appeals to a reality TV “star.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:02:37pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

“P.S. Don’t give toddlers a ride on your muzzle reference sensor.”

why can’t our tankers do this?

Awesome Leopard 2 beer on gun demo

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:04:13pm

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why can’t our tankers do this?

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The gun is stabilized. Gunners are less so.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:04:22pm

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why can’t our tankers do this?

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Video

So, they invented a way for a tank to deliver beer in a glass without spilling it? That seems like an odd way to spend money.
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:06:21pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:06:57pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

So, they invented a way for a tank to deliver beer in a glass without spilling it? That seems like an odd way to spend money.
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It fires the pizza out of the main gun.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:07:16pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:07:23pm
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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:07:30pm

re: #135 jaunte

GAAAAAAAAAA!

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:08:28pm

re: #135 jaunte

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Yesterday: “We intend to comply with the court’s decision and with our Constitutional obligations.”

Today: “FUCK THE COURTS!”

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jeffreyw  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:09:50pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

So, they invented a way for a tank to deliver beer in a glass without spilling it? That seems like an odd way to spend money.
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That was originally developed to deliver milk to children.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:11:12pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

So, they invented a way for a tank to deliver beer in a glass without spilling it? That seems like an odd way to spend money.
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but can you win a war that way?

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:11:26pm
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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:11:58pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It fires the pizza out of the main gun.

topped with…..nah

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:12:41pm

I fully expect now for the census questionnaires to be sent out with the citizenship question printed on them. And for the WH to basically giving their “John Roberts has made his decision, now let him enforce it!” bellow to anybody who criticizes such a move. With the expectation that the nation will just shrug their shoulders, fill out the questionnaires, and then send them back without much of a grumble.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:13:10pm

re: #142 DangerMan

but can you win a war that way?

Hearts and minds.

//

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retired cynic  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:16:13pm
The Texas Legislature is the only governmental body on earth that could accidentally legalize pot.

Oh yeah. They did.

juanitajean.com

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:18:09pm

re: #142 DangerMan

but can you win a war that way?

Would you want to shoot at somebody delivering you free beer??

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ThomasLite  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:21:20pm

re: #148 Jay C

Would you want to shoot at somebody delivering you free beer??

Ehh. All you know, it could be Budweiser.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:22:34pm

Seeing speculation now that tomorrow is likely to be a shitshow because it’ll turn into Inauguration 2.0, that the WH so badly botched the organization and preparation that most of those they wanted to show up already have other plans. That they’re struggling to get the “VIP” seats filled because most of the donors and Republicans they wanted to show up…already have other plans. And that D.C. is already so massively lop-sided against Donny, that the odds are his few “supporters” will be crowded out by the protestors who are moving Heaven and Earth to show up.

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:24:15pm

re: #149 ThomasLite

Ehh. All you know, it could be Budweiser.

he said beer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:24:59pm

re: #135 jaunte

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SCOTUS ended its term last week (and ruled against the citizenship question). Doesn’t reconvene until October. Not all that sure that the court will see this as an emergency.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:25:33pm

re: #149 ThomasLite

Ehh. All you know, it could be Budweiser.

If I may quote Eric Idle? “American beer is like making love in a canoe - it’s fucking close to water.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:32:27pm

re: #144 DangerMan

topped with…..nah

yes, it’s shaped like a grenade…

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:38:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:38:54pm

This is one of the things that makes my head explode - the idea that ‘urban areas have too much power because more people live there’. You know, if you want your rural area to have more power, GET PEOPLE TO MOVE THERE!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:39:15pm

I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump’s Fourth of July parade will bring many crazies up front into the open (bad move) and attempt to make POTUS “assume room premature ” as Rush Limbaugh would say.

Maybe rule under Colossus isn’t so bad after all….

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:39:19pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

SCOTUS ended its term last week (and ruled against the citizenship question). Doesn’t reconvene until October. Not all that sure that the court will see this as an emergency.

“Did we f’in stutter?”

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:39:20pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:39:30pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

Yesterday: “We intend to comply with the court’s decision and with our Constitutional obligations.”

Today: “FUCK THE COURTS!”

Nobody will stand up to Trump.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:40:22pm

re: #155 jaunte

I have a hard time taking George at face value.

Sorry. Not sorry.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:41:05pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:41:06pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

Nobody will stand up to Trump.

Nobody who wants to keep their jobs.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:41:51pm

re: #162 jaunte

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So, in short, it’s another Trump effort to look like he’s not surrendering…when he totally is.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:42:09pm

re: #161 MsJ

Yeah, he’s not to be trusted. But he’s right about this being a shitshow.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:42:42pm

re: #157 Eric The Fruit Bat

I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump’s Fourth of July parade will bring many crazies up front into the open (bad move) and attempt to make POTUS “assume room premature ” as Rush Limbaugh would say.

Maybe rule under Colossus isn’t so bad after all….

Tomorrow is going to be a complete shit show. Protests. Counter protests. Likely mayhem and I’d venture to guess that someone is going to die.

Charlottesville on steroids.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:44:13pm

re: #166 MsJ

Tomorrow is going to be a complete shit show. Protests. Counter protests. Likely mayhem and I’d venture to guess that someone is going to die.

Charlottesville on steroids.

Trump wants that.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:44:29pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Trump wants that.

PUTIN wants that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:45:08pm

re: #166 MsJ

Tomorrow is going to be a complete shit show. Protests. Counter protests. Likely mayhem and I’d venture to guess that someone is going to die.

Charlottesville on steroids.

I rather expect the opposite: News coverage to be dominated by reports of “violence” by “Antifa,” with every cracked window and turned over trash can presented as if it were a “national tragedy.” The idea being that if turnout is low, it was because people avoided showing up to avoid the “terror.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:45:10pm

re: #168 MsJ

PUTIN wants that.

Goes without saying.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:45:18pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Nobody who wants to keep their jobs.

That pretty much says it all about this country now, doesn’t it?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:45:40pm

re: #157 Eric The Fruit Bat

I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump’s Fourth of July parade will bring many crazies up front into the open (bad move) and attempt to make POTUS “assume room premature ” as Rush Limbaugh would say.

Maybe rule under Colossus isn’t so bad after all….

Except fucking Colossus even has opinions on how to mix cocktails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:45:43pm

re: #155 jaunte

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someone should tell these lawyers that “no” means “no”

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:46:50pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

That pretty much says it all about this country now, doesn’t it?

All the people that will tell him no have either quit or been fired.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:48:13pm

re: #166 MsJ

Tomorrow is going to be a complete shit show. Protests. Counter protests. Likely mayhem and I’d venture to guess that someone is going to die.

It would be great to find out what the route will be so that people can lay down in its path. Do you really think that CinC would order the troops to run over the protesters?

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:48:21pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:49:36pm

re: #175 Eric The Fruit Bat

It would be great to find out what the route will be so that people can lay down in its path. Do you really think that CinC would order the troops to run over the protesters?

In a fucking second. He’s a psychopath. He absolutely would.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:49:46pm

Tomorrow seems like a great day to scorch some animal flesh and/or plant matter, mix heat-softened tubers with emulsions of plant oils and avian reproduction units, and ingest mildly toxic fermentation products….

Take to the streets only to walk the dogs. Fly the flag. Eat too much. Be extra nice to the pets who get scared. Go to bed early.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:50:50pm

re: #175 Eric The Fruit Bat

It would be great to find out what the route will be so that people can lay down in its path. Do you really think that CinC would order the troops to run over the protesters?

The question is, would they obey?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:51:18pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

Except fucking Colossus even has opinions on how to mix cocktails.

Indeed he does-although Colossus did scold him after his attempt to render Colossus non-fuctional.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:52:15pm

re: #174 Belafon

All the people that will tell him no have either quit or been fired.

And William Barr says “Yes Sir” every time. If the question is on the census, we are finished as a free nation. The only thing we can look forward to then is that climate change (which cares only about facts and not alternative facts) will destroy this planet. Too bad Trump and his criminal offspring will probably not be alive to witness that destruction.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:52:56pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

Seeing speculation now that tomorrow is likely to be a shitshow because it’ll turn into Inauguration 2.0, that the WH so badly botched the organization and preparation that most of those they wanted to show up already have other plans. That they’re struggling to get the “VIP” seats filled because most of the donors and Republicans they wanted to show up…already have other plans. And that D.C. is already so massively lop-sided against Donny, that the odds are his few “supporters” will be crowded out by the protestors who are moving Heaven and Earth to show up.

IT WAS THE LARGEST JULY 4 PARADE BIG MILITARY EVER BUT FAKE NEWS MEDIA WONT REPORT MY YUUUUUGE RALLY CROWD NUMBERS VERY FAKE PEOPLE UPSET!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:53:32pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

The question is, would they obey?

That remains to be seen, sadly.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:54:37pm

re: #174 Belafon

All the people that will tell him no have either quit or been fired.

So we get a dictatorship. Oh well.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:54:50pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump’s too lazy to go change the printing presses himself. I was talking about those immediately around him, though, just to be clear.

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Mattand  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:55:36pm

So has Orange Julius Caesar been seen in public since Pence’s emergency turn around yesterday? I know he’s been tweeting stuff, but that can be faked.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:56:04pm

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

That remains to be seen, sadly.

If we set up a Tienanmen situation, the fate of the nation could hang on a stoner and a corporal.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:56:43pm

The comments are filled with brainwashed submoronic fascist boot lickers. Good place to increase your block list

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:56:50pm

So, just to be clear, NOBODY is really sure what the fuck is going on WRT the citizenship question.

Great. Just fucking great.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:56:59pm

re: #182 Sir John Barron

IT WAS THE LARGEST JULY 4 PARADE BIG MILITARY EVER BUT FAKE NEWS MEDIA WONT REPORT MY YUUUUUGE RALLY CROWD NUMBERS VERY FAKE PEOPLE UPSET!!!

I already imagine that the stories have been prepared for both turnouts by the wingnut press. Anything short of a total shitshow will be presented as “THE GREATEST 4TH EVAH!”, while a total shitshown will lead to headlines about “ANTIFA TERRORISTS/DEM PROTESTORS RUIN JULY 4TH CELEBRATION!”

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:57:02pm

re: #186 Mattand

dailykos.com

Ever since God — or someone; who knows? — called Mike Pence home when he was supposed to be flying to New Hampshire to give a talk on opioids yesterday, speculation has run rampant about what really happened.

And, yes, I know that lede has a double meaning — making it sound like Pence was scheduled to give a talk “about opioids” and also give a talk “while on opioids.” But both can be true, right? Honestly, though, why would Pence give an opioid talk. It’s way too ironic, even for this administration. The dude is opioids, FFS.

But that’s not the point of this diary.

Donald Trump is dead … I heard.

I’m hearing.

People are saying.

Many, many people.

So here’s what happened: Tomorrow’s big reveal was supposed to be that the federal government was commandeering the annual July 4 Nathan’s Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest and moving it to the National Mall as a fitting warmup for Trump’s Super Blowout Independence Day celebration. Because this is America, goddamn it.

And Trump was going to be the headliner. But while practicing yesterday, he choked to death on a footlong.

That’s what I’m hearing, anyway.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:57:25pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

The question is, would they obey?

Sure they would. He is the CinC, after all. If the gutless lawyers at Justice won’t oppose him why assume the military, who would face a lot more trouble than just being fired, would?

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mmmirele  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:58:57pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

I’ve little doubt they made this choice not because it was absolutely horrid to ever think such a thing was right and moral…but because they got caught and couldn’t handle the negative press.

There was going to be a shitstorm whenever it happened. They were probably wanting to get it further in the legal process before the shitstorm hit so that it would be harder to dislodge from the legal process.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:59:17pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 2:59:55pm

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

So, just to be clear, NOBODY is really sure what the fuck is going on WRT the citizenship question.

Great. Just fucking great.

The DOJ was sure what was going on…until their boss turned on Faux and found himself being ripped to shreds for not just declaring himself King Asshole the 1st.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:00:00pm

“I don’t think you speak for your client, DOJ.”

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Mattand  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:00:29pm

re: #191 Belafon

If only.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:00:57pm

This is what we get with an incompetent who can’t delegate sitting in the White House.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:01:11pm

re: #193 mmmirele

There was going to be a shitstorm whenever it happened. They were probably wanting to get it further in the legal process before the shitstorm hit so that it would be harder to dislodge from the legal process.

They seemed to think they’d already reached that point when the grand jury indicted her, but not the shooter, for manslaughter.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:01:12pm

Rumor has it that noted war criminal and conservative pundit Allen West will announce that he is running against John Cornyn in the Texas GOP senate primary. Yokel conservatives don’t think Cornyn is pure enough.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:01:22pm

re: #192 Skip Intro

Sure they would. He is the CinC, after all. If the gutless lawyers at Justice won’t oppose him why assume the military, who would face a lot more trouble than just being fired, would?

DoD has it’s own lawyers, and annual training on “lawful orders”. In the hypothetical I’m betting slightly in favor of the Good Guys.

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:02:44pm

re: #175 Eric The Fruit Bat

It would be great to find out what the route will be so that people can lay down in its path. Do you really think that CinC would order the troops to run over the protesters?

Him? Certainly. It would also shatter the US Army (how many obey or not? mutiny? Coup d’etet?) And Russia and China would not have to worry about the US for at least a generation.

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Mattand  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:02:47pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

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Of course, the outrage over Nike is complete bullshit.

Whenever I walk by the Betsy Ross House, I have to fight the urge to tell people not to waste their money, as the story is total bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:03:03pm

A federal judge is actually telling the DOJ that they don’t seem to be speaking for their “client” anymore. Yegods.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:06:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:10:10pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:12:02pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:13:16pm
“You know many of us and will recall how hard we worked for you, your family and your golf clubs. . . .,” the undocumented workers wrote to Trump. “You know we are hard workers and that we are not criminals or seeking a free ride in America.

“We all pay our taxes, love our faith and our family, and simply want to find a place for ourselves to make America even better. . . .,” the letter added. “We believe you have a heart and will do the right thing to find a home for us here in America so that we can step out of the shadows and not deport us and our friends and family.”

Oh, I think I see where their mistake is.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:15:18pm

re: #198 jaunte

This is what we get with an incompetent who can’t delegate sitting in the White House.

An incompetent who keeps getting everything he wants.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:16:28pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

A federal judge is actually telling the DOJ that they don’t seem to be speaking for their “client” anymore. Yegods.

Okay, so I read the transcript, and … holy shit. This is what you get when you elect a madman.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:19:20pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:20:13pm

Honestly, it would not surprise me that Trump turned on Faux yesterday, saw himself getting the third degree from them for not “fighting” the census issue, and called Bill Barr with orders to make the citizenship question happen or else he’d “lose confidence” in Barr. And so we see the DOJ in full Chinese Fire Drill mode, trying to find some way to get this question back before SCOTUS in the hopes that they can then twist Roberts’ arm into approving the inclusion of the question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:20:32pm

oh look what has oozed out:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:22:51pm

The other thing in the transcript is the plaintiff’s counsel brought up the fact that the Gov’t had insisted they needed an answer before 30June to print the questionnaires, and if the Gov’t is now saying that they could still print the questionnaires even if it took another week or so, then the Gov’t misrepresented the facts - which I suspect would not go over well with the judge.

But, dammit, Jim, I’m a doctor scientist, not a legal scholar!

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:23:29pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

I rather expect the opposite: News coverage to be dominated by reports of “violence” by “Antifa,” with every cracked window and turned over trash can presented as if it were a “national tragedy.” The idea being that if turnout is low, it was because people avoided showing up to avoid the “terror.”

You’re all right and all wrong
Point is the stories are already written no matter what happens

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:25:23pm
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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:26:21pm

re: #190 Targetpractice

I already imagine that the stories have been prepared for both turnouts by the wingnut press. Anything short of a total shitshow will be presented as “THE GREATEST 4TH EVAH!”, while a total shitshown will lead to headlines about “ANTIFA TERRORISTS/DEM PROTESTORS RUIN JULY 4TH CELEBRATION!”

Gmta you first

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:29:18pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

A federal judge is actually telling the DOJ that they don’t seem to be speaking for their “client” anymore. Yegods.

The president is not the client. Sigh

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DangerMan  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:30:31pm

re: #208 jaunte

Oh, I think I see where their mistake is.

And if they get to stay while others don’t??????

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Cheechako  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:32:10pm

trump at tomorrows festivities:

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:33:50pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:37:33pm

DOJ basically saying “Yes, we’ve been lying to you for months…but if we can come up with a new lie, can we just skip to the part where SCOTUS rules in our favor, as was promised?”

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Ken_L  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:38:50pm

Two tanks sitting on flatbed trucks hardly compares to Red Square on Mayday. Trump must declare a national emergency to get funds for a proper parade ground.

Image: 13284660-7009601-image-a-42_1557393979823.jpg

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:39:13pm

re: #220 Cheechako

trump at tomorrows festivities:

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I would not be a bit surprised to hear that his staff had to convince him not to wear something like this.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:40:17pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

DOJ basically saying “Yes, we’ve been lying to you for months…but if we can come up with a new lie, can we just skip to the part where SCOTUS rules in our favor, as was promised?”

For that matter, several observers say that even if the government came right out and SAID the primary and secondary purposes would be to have a chilling effect on PoC census compliance and to shift reapportionment’s benefits to the South and the White Midwest, SCOTUS would rule in their favour.

Literally, these folks say, the only thing saving the Republic for a couple more weeks was that Trump ordered DoJ to dissemble about the purpose. Because SCOTUS is fine with establishing a white-supremacist society, but it gets FURIOUS when you lie to it.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:41:11pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

I would not be a bit surprised to hear that his staff had to convince him not to wear something like this.

After poor Ivanka stole the best uniform designs from tyrants all over the world just to give him something special to wear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:42:08pm

heh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:42:55pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

After poor Ivanka stole the best uniform designs from tyrants all over the world just to give him something special to wear.

That’s why the Asia trip was so important. It was the final fitting at the sweatshop where Ivanka has her dresses made.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:43:02pm

re: #225 Chrysicat

Added the last sentence after you’d prolly all seen the inferior version I started with. Gotta find a way to skip that step.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:48:06pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:48:39pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

A federal judge is actually telling the DOJ that they don’t seem to be speaking for their “client” anymore. Yegods.

By claiming that the President is their client, does that mean the judge is affirming Trump’s declaration of being king?

Or does the judge mean that the client is the American people as a whole or the Constitution, not the President that this DoIJ is working exclusively on behalf of?

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:51:14pm

re: #231 Chrysicat

By claiming that the President is their client, does that mean the judge is affirming Trump’s declaration of being king?

Or does the judge mean that the client is the American people as a whole or the Constitution, not the President that this DoIJ is working exclusively on behalf of?

The situation was put in the framework of Facebook’s lawyers saying one thing and then Zuckerberg himself making a public statement saying another, at which point she’d drag the lawyers in to say that she doesn’t seem to think they’re speaking for their client anymore. But the implication is pretty clear: She doesn’t think the DOJ is telling her the truth because they say one thing and then Donny says something totally at odds with what they’re telling her.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:51:20pm

re: #231 Chrysicat

Those are great questions. I too would like to know who is the “client?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:52:55pm

re: #231 Chrysicat

By claiming that the President is their client, does that mean the judge is affirming Trump’s declaration of being king?

Or does the judge mean that the client is the American people as a whole or the Constitution, not the President that this DoIJ is working exclusively on behalf of?

To be fair, he didn’t specifically say they weren’t speaking for their client.

I’ve been told different things, and it’s becoming increasingly frustrating.

If you were Facebook and an attorney for Facebook told me one thing, and then I read a press release from Mark Zuckerberg telling me something else, I would be demanding that Mark Zuckerberg appear in court with you the next time because I would be saying I don’t think you speak for your client anymore.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:53:46pm

I think the judge recognizes Justice only has one client now.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:54:00pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

The situation was put in the framework of Facebook’s lawyers saying one thing and then Zuckerberg himself making a public statement saying another, at which point she’d drag the lawyers in to say that she doesn’t seem to think they’re speaking for their client anymore. But the implication is pretty clear: She doesn’t think the DOJ is telling her the truth because they say one thing and then Donny says something totally at odds with what they’re telling her.

Yuh-oh. That means we are looking in Column “A”. I thought as much.

The more judges who consider Trump to be DoJ’s client, the further fucked democracy gets.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:54:06pm

re: #231 Chrysicat

By claiming that the President is their client, does that mean the judge is affirming Trump’s declaration of being king?

Or does the judge mean that the client is the American people as a whole or the Constitution, not the President that this DoIJ is working exclusively on behalf of?

What I just read is that the judge was proposing a situation in which Facebook’s lawyers would not be representing Zuckerburg. Perhaps the analogy doesn’t reach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:58:49pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 3:59:36pm

The judge seems to be trying to be fair to the DOJ by not just going with the plaintiffs motion to order a stipulation that DOJ will not further pursue the matter about the question and will publicly counter any statements put out in public that they are continuing to do so. The response was to comment on how that made the court uncomfortable, effectively putting a clamp on Donny’s tweets until the whole matter is settled. BUT the court also can’t have him shooting off his mouth how they’re going to continue to pursue the matter, laying out to the DOJ that it appears they’re not speaking for their “client” anymore. So they have until Friday afternoon to either get their shit together…or the court will consider ordering the stipulation be imposed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:01:29pm

re: #239 Targetpractice

So either Trump shuts up, or the DOJ has to openly declare they’re ignoring him.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:01:50pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:04:59pm

re: #72 DangerMan

take over the damn narrative

if a semi disorganized group of say 10,000 started walking towards the ‘vip’ area, what are they gonna do to stop it? build a wall?

Yeah, it’s a public government area. Walk right on through, throw down a blanket, pull out the sandwiches and soda, and enjoy the 4th. Don’ need no steenkin’ ticket

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:07:24pm

re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White

So either Trump shuts up, or the DOJ has to openly declare they’re ignoring him.

More like the court’s ordering the DOJ to decide how it wants to handle this going forward. As of yesterday, they were signaling compliance with the injunctions and printing census questionnaires without the citizenship bit. But then their “client” blurts out that he doesn’t intend to comply with the injunctions and now the DOJ is basically they’re under orders from their “client” to push this case before the SCOTUS bench again. That after months of insisting the matter how to be resolved before a June 30th deadline, they’re now acting as if they’ve all the time in the world but also asking the court to tell them how they can fast track this whole matter back to the SCOTUS.

So the court is wanting to know if the DOJ is planning to comply with the injunctions or not. And if they’re not, then the court may be forced to take steps it’s avoided before now because it believed that the DOJ was acting in good faith.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:11:19pm

re: #242 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, it’s a public government area. Walk right on through, throw down a blanket, pull out the sandwiches and soda, and enjoy the 4th. Don’ need no steenkin’ ticket

Once again: TRUMP’S STANDING ORDERS LIKELY ARE “OPEN FIRE IF ANYONE APPROACHES THE VIP AREA WITHOUT AUTHORISATION”. It might be worth it in the long run, but anyone planning to try it has to understand going in that they’re undertaking a suicide mission, not just setting up to be arrested. Likely the same with bathing in the reflecting pool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:11:35pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:11:42pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:13:21pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:13:42pm

re: #246 gocart mozart

It sounds like someone is making excuses for someone else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:17:17pm

re: #246 gocart mozart

I think French misses the point about the whole incremental nature of the assault on what America’s supposed to be. Trump’s playing Jenga with America. Each block he removes doesn’t make the structure fall. It just makes it more vulnerable right up until the block whose removal DOES make it fall.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:17:57pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:18:41pm

when do we get to the point when it becomes unavoidably clear that the constitution is no longer functioning?

protesters gunned down “because they were rioting”?

critics of the regime mysteriously turning up dead?

results of elections or supreme court decisions ignored?

press outlets closed down “because they were violating the law”?

look for these and other exciting totalitarian ascendancy events coming to your neighborhoods soon!

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:19:35pm

re: #246 gocart mozart

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The prick does have a point. We as a nation have grown so accustomed to the usage of “Support the troops!” as a cheap stand-in for patriotism that most people won’t blink an eye about the militarization of tomorrow’s freakshow. Tanks in the streets? Soldiers being treated like showroom models for the DoD? Trump making a “salute” to the troops while loudspeakers blare “Into the Wild Blue Yonder”? It’s nothing new, just more in our face than usual.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:21:55pm

re: #250 MsJ

So far I have not seen anything on PBS except A Capital Fourth which has been airing for quite a few years.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:22:39pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

I would not be a bit surprised to hear that his staff had to convince him not to wear something like this.

His customary baggy suit & overlong tie are his “brand” and he’s not going to change that.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:23:14pm

The only way I tune in to this shit show tomorrow is if D-Day shows up in the Deathmobile.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:24:04pm

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

I will be binge watching Downton Abbey.

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Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:24:22pm

re: #254 The Pie Overlord!

His customary baggy suit & overlong tie are his “brand” and he’s not going to change that.

Though he’ll make sure to wear the emblem of a true “patriot”: A cheap, Chinese-made lapel pin.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:28:13pm

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

The only way I tune in to this shit show tomorrow is if D-Day shows up in the Deathmobile.

“I hate those guys.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:28:28pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:30:00pm

Trump is such a miserable bastard.

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:35:15pm

re: #250 MsJ

All of their streaming services will though.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:35:59pm

re: #261 Skip Intro

All of their streaming services will though.

Better than on TV.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:37:58pm

I otter know….

I’ll go to my room now.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:38:13pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

A federal judge is actually telling the DOJ that they don’t seem to be speaking for their “client” anymore. Yegods.

An Attorney General who wasn’t a toady would resign.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:39:24pm

Evening Lizardim from the hot and stormy wild north country. I hope and trust things are going well among the lizardfolk on this pre-4th of July summer day. This morning, I had a very unpleasant adventure which I will detail below the jump…

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Skip Intro  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:39:31pm

re: #262 MsJ

Better than on TV.

“CBS will never broadcast porn. For that subscribe to our CBSP service for the best porn at an affordable price on the internet.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:40:41pm

re: #260 Ace Rothstein

Trump is such a miserable bastard.

He could never have reached this point if not for the complicity of the entire GOP. Trump is evil but so are his enablers. Of course, after Hitler took complete control, the enablers were forgotten and he became the face of evil. I assume that will be eventually true about Trump — he will loom large and the GOP enablers will be forgotten so that they can return and inflict damage in the future, assuming that we ever gain a Trump family - free future.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:41:14pm

re: #264 BlueSpotinAL

An Attorney General who wasn’t a toady would resign.

An Attorney General who wasn’t a toady DID resign.

And lordy, who’d have thought we’d ever MISS Jeff Sessions?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:42:27pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:43:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:44:26pm

re: #270 The Pie Overlord!

Golden Retriever. Natch.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:45:46pm

re: #270 The Pie Overlord!

re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White

Thanks. That made me feel a little better. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:46:17pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:50:35pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

An Attorney General who wasn’t a toady DID resign.

And lordy, who’d have thought we’d ever MISS Jeff Sessions?

Wasn’t Sessions fired? He didn’t leave willingly, did he?

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plansbandc  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:53:11pm

The bots and trolls on twitter today.

They’re amped up for their emperor’s wankfest and are giddy with joy over kids in cages. Blocked and blocked and blocked some more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:53:11pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:53:23pm

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t Sessions fired? He didn’t leave willingly, did he?

You say ‘tomato’ and I say ‘tomahto’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:54:21pm

re: #269 Patricia Kayden

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happy fucking 4th of July ya orange moran

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:55:34pm

JFC

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:56:25pm

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

So the story wasn’t FAKE.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:57:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 4:59:08pm

re: #281 MsJ

Hey, you know, where are white girls supposed to find people who look like them in media nowadays?
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:00:22pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, you know, where are white girls supposed to find people who look like them in media nowadays?
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Well, I hear Dana Loesch is looking for a job.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:02:16pm

re: #283 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, I hear Dana Loesch is looking for a job.

That makes me feel all warm and snuggly.

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stpaulbear  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:02:52pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

You say ‘tomato’ and I say ‘tomahto’

You say Potato

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:04:43pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

That makes me feel all warm and snuggly.

A reminder that no matter how much crap is going on, personally or in the news, there are always little moments of schadenfreude to enjoy.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:07:22pm

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Maybe they will keep pursuing it into 2021.

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unproven innocence  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:12:44pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:13:17pm

I retract my statement of yesterday:

Re: The citizenship question. Trump did what he always does: make some absurd or criminal statement and then back down when it turns out that it is indeed illegal and the rest of the government won’t support him on it. That’s why I don’t share all these fears that he’s going to stay in the WH if he loses in 2020.

The DOIJ (Department of Injustice) is backing Trump and it is clear that Trump is on his way to becoming President-for-Life, with the collusion of the entire GOP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:13:37pm

re: #286 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A reminder that no matter how much crap is going on, personally or in the news, there are always little moments of schadenfreude to enjoy.

I bet she looks REALLY angry NOW!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:13:44pm

re: #285 stpaulbear

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Dread Pirate  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:14:46pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:15:20pm

I’ll be blissfully ignoring tomorrow’s shit show in DC. I’m going skiing.

Instagram

Summer Skiing, Summer skiing! It’s been a fun year of it. See you tomorrow for one last day July 4th. #abasin #TheLegend #summerskiing 📹: @deadlinemotion

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:19:58pm

I’ll take this bit of good news.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:20:54pm

re: #294 MsJ

I’ll take this bit of good news.

Indiana: +1

Ugh. I have no hope for fish country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:21:19pm

To watch Trumps shitshow parade or Stranger Things Season 3?

What a tough fucking question.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:21:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:22:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:24:09pm

It’s Twitter, which is a shit indicator. But I have noticed that the replies to most of Fuckface Von Clownstick’s tweets of late are resoundingly negative. Most replies these days the negativity is outnumbering the bots and cultists by a good lot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:25:57pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

It’s Twitter, which is a shit indicator. But I have noticed that the replies to most of Fuckface Von Clownstick’s tweets of late are resoundingly negative. Most replies these days the negativity is outnumbering the bots and cultists by a good lot.

Do you really think Trump is reading any of these responses?

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:27:52pm

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Arapahoe Basin hasn’t been open on 4 July since 2011. I haven’t skied there on 4 July since 1996, when I was a teenager. Yeah, you’d have to pay me at least a weeks pay to get me to watch the fucking corrupt Nuremberg rally tomorrow. And I guess only Fox News is televising it! And of course the thunder and lightning!

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:28:14pm

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

Do you really think Trump is reading any of these responses?

No. Not at all.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:31:00pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

This would be a lot more fun than frogs: Three perfectly placed lightning bolts vaporize Trump, Pence and McConnell without any other effects.

It would sure make a believer out of me.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:31:19pm

Piglet Squid Siphon Looks Like a Snout | Nautilus Live

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:31:35pm

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

Do you really think Trump is reading any of these responses?

Since he can’t read, at all, I’m going with no. 😁

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:32:28pm

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

Do you really think Trump is reading?any of these responses?

Edited for accuracy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:33:12pm

re: #305 MsJ

Beat me by that much.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:33:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:33:53pm

re: #308 Charles Johnson

Scarily accurate.

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mmmirele  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:34:20pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Direct Action” for Rev. Barber means he’s going to do something to get arrested. Like show up and try to remove kids from one of those hellholes, like in Clint, TX or the Ursula detention center in McAllen, TX. Good for him. I’d love to do it, but my brother told me he wants to go on vacation soon and I can’t go around getting arrested when I need to do momsitting.

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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:34:45pm
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Old Liberal  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:35:39pm

Gonna say it again.

McCarthy hearings. No one did anything until a tipping point.
Civil Rights. No one did anything about the dogs and fire hoses and murders until a tipping point.
Vietnam War. No one did anything about the lies and murder until a tipping point.
Reagan. Nonstop lies and thievery and tolerated by the media.
Bush II. Evil Cheney, Patriot Act, illegal aggression, thievery.

I remember the Republicans “rallies for decency”. I remember how they controlled the media, how the long-hairs should be shot (and were, at Kent State and Jackson State???), how the police rioted in Chicago and Madison and hundreds of other places; how the National Guard was deployed to American cities. The assassinations. The lies of Reagan, Bush I, Bush II and the evil Cheney.

This is fucking America, folks. Always has been, always will be. Always will be a fight between those who hate the other and fight progress, and those who seek a better life for everyone.

I’m not saying to be complacent. But this isn’t any darker for me than every other Republican administration since the 1950’s. And a bunch of you voted Republican in the past. Think about that for a minute. It ain’t over. And I am not an optimist. But these things are always at the worst right before the tipping point. I’m sticking with my forecast of recession this Fall, and then the tipping point.

“and accordingly all experience has shown, that mankind is more disposed to suffer when evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long chain of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evince a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right…..to overthrow such government and provide new forms for their future security” from memory forgive any mistakes

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:37:07pm

Have some more optimism. It is served up second, but still hot.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:38:56pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:40:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:41:53pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:43:27pm

THIS is exactly what needs to happen. And low “ratings”. Best outcome.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:43:53pm

I know not everyone around here is into sportsball and such; but some news:

Jared was a competitor(played against him in HS), he was my teammate in college for three years; but most of all he was a great friend. He battled a lot in his life, in addition to his issues with his weight. There have not been many people on this earth that I have met that have had such a jovial personality, or genuine spirit. I’ll miss you buddy.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:44:57pm
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plansbandc  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:45:58pm

re: #318 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’m so sorry. May he rest in peace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:46:17pm

re: #318 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I read that this morning.
He leaves a huge space to fill.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:47:18pm

“White House aides fear disastrously low turnout at Trump’s July 4 celebration of himself.”

Bet you anything they try paying people to show up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:47:52pm

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

“White House aides fear disastrously low turnout at Trump’s July 4 celebration of himself.”

Bet you anything they try paying people to show up.

Bet they’ve already got the rented buses filled and on the road.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:49:16pm

re: #318 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I know not everyone around here is into sportsball and such; but some news:

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Jared was a competitor(played against him in HS), he was my teammate in college for three years; but most of all he was a great friend. He battled a lot in his life, in addition to his issues with his weight. There have not been many people on this earth that I have met that have had such a jovial personality, or genuine spirit. I’ll miss you buddy.

Sorry for your loss. {{{Smith25’s Liberal Thighs}}}

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 5:57:29pm

This is stunning. Do check it out.

It was 156 years ago today that the Union won the battles of Vicksburg and Gettysburg.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:00:09pm

re trumpists

In Martha Stout’s famous book “The sociopath next door”, she interviewed a sociopath who said “’I am sure that if the devil existed, he would want us to feel very sorry for him”. This is one of the ways to control others, probably the most subtle one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:00:36pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:01:52pm

re: #317 MsJ

THIS is exactly what needs to happen. And low “ratings”. Best outcome.

They’ll blame the weather. Even if 100,000 protesters show up.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:09:50pm

re: #328 stpaulbear

They’ll blame the weather. Even if 100,000 protesters show up.

I don’t care. I want vacant optics.

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:12:03pm

re: #329 MsJ

I don’t care. I want vacant optics.

Hail, hail would be good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:13:46pm

re: #330 b.d.

Hail, hail would be good.

This hail from last week in Arkansas would be excellent:

Arkansas Hail From Hell
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:13:54pm

re: #330 b.d.

Hail, hail would be good.

Locusts and frogs would be best.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:15:52pm

NOAA’s weather forecast for the DC area tomorrow.

Things definitely looking more active on Thursday. Shortwave
trough approaching from the west will start to have a
significant influence on the weather, enhancing lift. Otherwise,
conditions will not change, so we`ll have the trough interacting
with a highly unstable and very moist environment - a recipe for
plenty of showers and thunderstorms. Have maintained likely POPs
for afternoon/evening, and while it won`t be a constant
downpour, the intervals of showers and t-storms will likely put
a damper on outdoor activities and may result in some event
cancellations or postponements. Any storms may also produce
gusty winds and torrential rain, so a few severe thunderstorm
and flood warnings would appear likely. Temperatures lower 90s
and heat indices near 100, but this is likely slightly below
today`s readings.

YAY!

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:16:29pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

This hail from last week in Arkansas would be excellent:

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I hope that hail won’t dent the Sherman tanks.

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:18:53pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

NOAA’s weather forecast for the DC area tomorrow.

YAY!

Ya know, if the heathens were encountering such conditions the wingnut evangelicals would be claiming that the weather is an act of God’s displeasure.

Just sayin…

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:18:58pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

NOAA’s weather forecast for the DC area tomorrow.

YAY!

If it does shut the show down, we should claim we all prayed to God.

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stpaulbear  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:23:10pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

NOAA’s weather forecast for the DC area tomorrow.

YAY!

Maybe Trump will cancel his appearance like he did in France last November.

If he’s a no-show, Pence’s recall to the white house will get a lot more attention…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:26:04pm
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b.d.  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:35:37pm

re: #337 stpaulbear

Maybe Trump will cancel his appearance like he did in France last November.

If he’s a no-show, Pence’s recall to the white house will get a lot more attention…

“It was the worst storm ever, I am told. Worse than Superstorm Sandy or Hurricane Katrina, which Obama handled so horribly.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:37:49pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

This hail from last week in Arkansas would be excellent:

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Wow.

The absolute horror of frozen rocks falling from the sky aside - that’s strangely beautiful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:38:47pm
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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:40:50pm

He needs an adult:

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:41:56pm

I’ve ridden that gondola hundreds of times over the years. They had to evacuate the whole line, took seven hours to get everyone evacuated. Not good for business, gondola is closed tomorrow, one of the busiest days of the year.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:43:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:45:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:46:37pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:46:53pm

Here’s hoping FFVCS’s authoritarian display is an unmitigated disaster. I will enjoy grilling out, throwing down a few brews and celebrating the holiday. But I cannot be proud of our country at this time. We have descended into fascism. And there are very real doubts we possess the courage to claw our way out.

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b.d.  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:48:22pm

re: #345 The Pie Overlord!

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OMG, how horrible!

I haven’t seen anything that horrible since that St. Louis’s cops broken orbital eye socket!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:49:49pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:55:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:55:57pm

Why am I just finding out just now that Randy Quaid is a MAGA cultist who does dramatic readings of Dear Leader’s tweets on Twitter? I really wish I didn’t just find that out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 6:59:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:03:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:05:36pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:06:06pm

re: #353 The Pie Overlord!

Has Ms. Broussard seen ANY sci-fi movie or TV series? Parallel universes are always a BAD IDEA. You either get the evil version of yourself, or learn you ARE the evil version of yourself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:06:48pm

re: #355 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Has Ms. Broussard seen ANY sci-fi movie or TV series? Parallel universes are always a BAD IDEA. You either get the evil version of yourself, or learn you ARE the evil version of yourself.

We are living in the evil version. I want to live in the good version.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:07:12pm

re: #356 The Pie Overlord!

We are living in the evil version. I want to live in the good version.

Do you think they’d let us? I mean, we have Donald J. Trump as our President. I wouldn’t let us live there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:07:21pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:07:49pm

re: #356 The Pie Overlord!

We are living in the evil version. I want to live in the good version.

We’re totally in alternate 1985 corrupt Biff timeline in Back To The Future Part II.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:08:11pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the hot and stormy wild north country. I hope and trust things are going well among the lizardfolk on this pre-4th of July summer day. This morning, I had a very unpleasant adventure which I will detail below the jump…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:09:36pm

re: #359 teleskiguy

We’re totally in alternate 1985 corrupt Biff timeline in Back To The Future Part II.

THIS

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:11:57pm

re: #360 Barefoot Grin

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:12:28pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:12:52pm

4th of July Pieta

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Dread Pirate  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:57:01pm
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jaunte  Jul 3, 2019 • 7:57:09pm

Seen on the local broadcast news last night. Not presented as a climate change story, but…

Pearland woman finds horde of invasive worms known to carry dangerous parasite in backyard

…the creepy creatures are known as the New Guinea Flatworm. Only found in Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico, the dark-brown worm is a predator of snails…

Aside from their unsettling appearance, the worms are known to pose a threat to animals and humans by carrying the parasite Angiostrongylus cantonensi, otherwise known as rat lungworm, according to the TISI.

Angiostrongylus cantonensis causes eosinophilic meningitis, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Infected people often present symptoms of bacterial meningitis, such as nausea, vomiting, neck stiffness, and headaches.

The CDC states anyone infected with the parasite usually can be healed without specific treatment because the parasite cannot survive for long in the human body. In rare cases, serious complications can occur, leading to neurologic dysfunction or death, according to the CDC.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 3, 2019 • 8:19:25pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

You say ‘tomato’ and I say ‘tomahto’

I say, “To NATO!”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2019 • 8:19:31pm

re: #360 Barefoot Grin

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 3, 2019 • 8:22:05pm

Trump’s D-Day speech in Europe this year was totally appropriate. He may very well surprise us, repeat that performance and not go off script. Regardless of his performance, I just want him and his entire despicable administration gone forever.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 8:23:02pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2019 • 8:31:01pm

re: #342 Belafon

He needs an adult:

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I forgot to include a link to the story: kfor.com


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