Stunning: Investigators Found Hundreds (Maybe Thousands) of Photos of Underage Girls in Jeffrey Epstein’s Mansion

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Multi-millionaire Jeffrey Epstein has known for years that he was being investigated for sex trafficking of underage girls. But he apparently was so confident that his wealth would insulate him from consequences that he continued to keep a large collection of nude photos of underage girls in his $77 million New York mansion.

Prosecutors alleged Epstein “has continued to maintain a vast trove of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls in his Manhattan mansion.” 

Investigators said they recovered “at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially nude females” 

They continued: “Some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken.”

“Some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.”

And today, he pleaded not guilty.

The president* of the US has ties to Jeffrey Epstein going way back, and it’s entirely possible he’ll end up implicated in this, too.

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409 comments

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:46:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:46:41am

Remember how the they just loved headlines that started with “Clinton Supporter Harvey Weinstein…”?

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:47:08am
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:47:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:47:32am
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darthstar  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:48:43am

Jesus…I had joked on Twitter just about twenty minutes ago that it might be bad for Trump if Epstein kept photographic records of his clientele. If he’s got pics of the girls, there’s a good chance they’re date traceable to his guests.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:49:58am

Don’t go hoping for a long prison sentence folks. Epstein is white, rich and connected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:51:29am

Weingarten is a real piece of shit

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:52:00am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t go hoping for a long prison sentence folks. Epstein is white, rich and connected.

Apparently, the charges the Feds are pursuing would give Epstein a 45-year prison term and with him being 66 years old, that’s basically a life sentence.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:52:09am

Dirtbag Mike Cernovich is trying to claim credit for Epstein’s arrest, by the way.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:52:53am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reupped from the last thread.

The plea deal in FL was a cover-up, and this is a new batch of crimes, committed in both FL and NY. The search warrant in NY uncovered 1000s of photos of underage children.

Prosecutors and investigators have found new crimes by the sex predator Epstein, and it could involve other associates as per the indictment.

Of course his lawyers are claiming this is a witch hunt or a do-over for the earlier sweetheart deal made by Acosta. His lawyers are paid to say that kind of thing.

But the reality is that bad people often do the same crimes time and again (hence habitual offenders, 3 strikes rules, etc.). Epstein was a sex predator who got a deal with prosecutors because he’s rich and powerful. He’s again under indictment for child sex trafficking, and prosecutors have no reason to cut a deal here. The mandatory minimums are 10-15 years per charge, and I think as they continue investigating, additional charges/counts will be filed.

I’m also expecting other people to get named soon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:53:50am

re: #11 lawhawk

I’m also expecting other people to get named soon.

And that some of those people are going to be uncomfortably close to DT.

Whatever it takes.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:55:54am

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Weingarten is a real piece of shit

Is he auditioning for a position in Trump’s cabinet? Ancient history? He was just an adult abusing children, your honor…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:55:57am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:56:15am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t go hoping for a long prison sentence folks. Epstein is white, rich and connected.

And as I posted before, I fully expect Trump to pardon him and he’ll demand the arrest of Bill Clinton.

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:56:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:56:56am
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calochortus  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:57:10am

I was checking on what the Freepers thought of all this (aside from the “we’ve finally got something on Bill Clinton” stuff.) The story line is that Trump found out about Epstein approaching a girl at Mar-a-Lago and banned him from the property. As far as they are concerned that was the appropriate action. Case closed.

It occurred to me this is probably a consistent conservative view. The alpha male protects those under his control from others. He of course gets what he wants, but that’s different. Society at large (police, courts) don’t have a legitimate role and if those outside his fiefdom don’t have effective protection, well, that’s just too bad for them.

It’s an ugly world view.

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:57:43am

What if they find a picture of Melania?

Just sayin’…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:58:20am

LMAO

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:58:27am

re: #19 stpaulbear

What if they find a picture of Melania?

Just sayin’…

she was too old

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:58:49am

Epstein’s lawyers just made a damning admission?

No penetration, so not statutory rape.

So the stories of the girls were true, including the children being forced to fondle themselves or Epstein and other acts?

Weird that he’d make that claim, when there’s reports that some of the children were forcibly touched.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:59:00am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

A “Do over”, huh?

Where have I heard that before? Hmm…

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:59:28am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

They were moooooooved by the music.

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darthstar  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:00:12am

re: #22 lawhawk

Epstein’s lawyers just made a damning admission?

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No penetration, so not statutory rape.

So the stories of the girls were true, including the children being forced to fondle themselves or Epstein and other acts?

Weird that he’d make that claim, when there’s reports that some of the children were forcibly touched.

And if it’s so ancient why did they find photos in his house today?

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:00:23am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Dirtbag Mike Cernovich is trying to claim credit for Epstein’s arrest, by the way.

And Q thinks this is IT! Man, this is IT!

All will be revealed. Trump is their man, man.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:00:40am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

“He’s already murdered one person. You can’t try him for murding the second one.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:00:53am

re: #18 calochortus

The story line is that Trump found out about Epstein approaching a girl at Mar-a-Lago and banned him from the property.

Wow, such courageous very bravery.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:01:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:02:18am

re: #29 lawhawk

Michael Adams walked up to a Black teen, Elijah Al-Amin, as he stood at the soda machine and slit his throat b/c he felt threatened by the music he listened to in his car.

This is just the logical conclusion of Stand Your Ground laws combined with toxic Trumpism.

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:02:55am

re: #19 stpaulbear

What if they find a picture of Melania?

Just sayin’…

What if they find a picture of Ivanka?

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calochortus  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:03:08am

re: #29 lawhawk

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WTF? Wouldn’t you just go somewhere that you felt safer?

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:03:58am

re: #16 plansbandc

OMG! Look at her little face. She loves that guy so much. She is in doggie heaven every time he kisses her.

My heart just exploded!!!

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:10:55am

re: #27 Belafon

“He’s already murdered one person. You can’t try him for murding the second one.”

asshats

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:10:57am

The dad of a friend of my youngest son died of a heart attack on Saturday. He was 48.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:11:16am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:11:23am

re: #9 Dr Lizardo

Apparently, the charges the Feds are pursuing would give Epstein a 45-year prison term and with him being 66 years old, that’s basically a life sentence.

IF he gets convicted. A lot can happen between here and there.

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:14:21am

So, what’s the QAnon take on this?

Another takedown in Trump’s heroic war on child sex rings?

Just how did Trump avoid STD’s in the 1970’s. As AFU used to say “If it could have happend it must have happened”, or to bring it up to date, “it would be irresponsible not to speculate”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:14:22am

re: #19 stpaulbear

What if they find a picture of Melania?

Just sayin’…

What if they find a picture of Jared, Junior or Eric getting it on?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:14:22am

re: #36 MsJ

Is this yet another new allegation against Trump or one of his previous victims?

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:15:08am

on this brilliant bozonity from downstairs:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
* 1h
Brilliant Constitutional Lawyer, Dr. John Eastman, said the Special Prosecutor (Mueller) should have NEVER been appointed in the first place. The entire exercise was fundamentally illegal. The Witch Hunt should never happen to another President of the U.S. again. A TOTAL SCAM!

Mrs. Betty Bowers
@BettyBowers
Not that Donald would recognize a “brilliant constitutional lawyer” anyway, but John Eastman is a right-wing kook, who is the Chairman of the Board of the anti-gay National Organization for Marriage.

i got CL’s as i noted:

brilliant constitutional lawyer is alleging there was no crime so no ‘prosecutor’ should have been appointed

- mueller was special counsel, not ‘prosecutor’

- how do you know there’s ‘no crime’ if you don’t investigate?

apparently he didnt read the appointment order

- “to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election….”

- and “the special counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation….”

crackpot peddling twaddle

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:15:54am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So I rob bank and get punished. They cannot charge me with the next bank robbery I commit? Good to know.

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:16:32am

re: #19 stpaulbear

What if they find a picture of Melania?

Just sayin’…

She was of age when she came to the US.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:17:03am

re: #36 MsJ

From that thread.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:17:35am

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this yet another new allegation against Trump or one of his previous victims?

Pretty sure that is old.

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danarchy  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:17:44am

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this yet another new allegation against Trump or one of his previous victims?

This is the one who brought a civil suit in 2016. It was dismissed for some technicality I believe.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:19:34am

re: #26 MsJ

And Q thinks this is IT! Man, this is IT!

All will be revealed. Trump is their man, man.

They’re popping corks insisting the Clintons will be arrested tonight…

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:20:32am
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:22:04am

Better pay for better results?

The Women’s World Cup final exceeded the final for the 2018 Men’s Finals.

Yeah, the USWNT should be getting paid more than their male counterparts - on both the results (3 wins in 4 World Cups), and the ratings.

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:22:14am

This video is very satisfying. And I WANT that key chain.

twistedsifter.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:22:47am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t go hoping for a long prison sentence folks. Epstein is white, rich and connected.

I wouldn’t make that bet if I were you. I think he’s going away for a long time. It’s way to public to sweep under the rug.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:22:54am
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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:23:32am

re: #44 MsJ

She no likey what i said.

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:24:26am

re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹

now you owe me a bottle of brain bleach.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:27:21am

re: #50 plansbandc

This video is very satisfying. And I WANT that key chain.

twistedsifter.com

I would laugh so hard watching a pickpocket encounter that.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:32:13am

The search warrant against Epstein’s NY home yielded thousands of photos of children.

Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in a press conference Monday that investigators also found “nude photographs of what appeared to be underage girls” at the Upper East Side home

We’re looking at a range of crimes that could be added to the current indictment:

18 U.S.C. § 2251- Sexual exploitation of children
18 U.S.C. § 2252- Certain activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors
18 U.S.C. § 2252A- Certain activities relating to material constituting or containing child pornography
18 U.S.C. § 2260- Production of sexually explicit depictions of a minor for importation into the United States

Possession is enough to warrant a conviction. And the time stamps on those photos would be enough to overcome any defense claim that the earlier deal is null and void - even as prosecutors say they aren’t bound by the FL deal, which is suspect on so many other levels.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:34:17am
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:34:21am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:36:12am

re: #58 gocart mozart

Wow, he didn’t even bother to put decoy names on the image discs.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:36:20am

If they found kiddie porn pics in his house that would be enough to send him away for life.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:38:55am

re: #60 I Would Prefer Not To

If they found kiddie porn pics in his house that would be enough to send him away for life.

Yeah, that alone should bring some major time. Actual production of kiddie porn? Shit, that’s basically life in the slammer depending on how many counts they file.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:42:23am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:42:38am
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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:43:05am

re: #60 I Would Prefer Not To

If they found kiddie porn pics in his house that would be enough to send him away for life.

Are you joking? He’s rich, white & connected. They’ll call it art and it won’t even cost him a day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:44:49am

re: #63 jaunte

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:45:35am

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

Narrator: He will never tell us how it should have gone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:47:25am

re: #66 jaunte

Narrator: He will never tell us how it should have gone.

beat me to that one.

but mr dealmaker could’ve come up with a better deal

and now they can impose punitive tariffs on imports from all over europe and the rest of the world

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:51:27am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beat me to that one.

but mr dealmaker could’ve come up with a better deal

and now they can impose punitive tariffs on imports from all over europe and the rest of the world

To Putin’s benefit. All the chaos Trump’s inflicting. All the trade wars and undermining our strategic partnerships and alliances inure benefit to one person above all others.

Putin.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:51:41am

re: #63 jaunte

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I think the theory a friend told me last night sounds right: It was Boris Johnson who leaked the cables because he wanted a good reason to remove the diplomat.

Too bad the UK is disintegrating as fast as we are.

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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:53:05am

re: #49 lawhawk

Better pay for better results?

[Embedded content]

The Women’s World Cup final exceeded the final for the 2018 Men’s Finals.

Yeah, the USWNT should be getting paid more than their male counterparts - on both the results (3 wins in 4 World Cups), and the ratings.

I would say they are the best football team of any kind since The Invincibles of 2003 Arsenal. They should be paid accordingly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:53:19am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

I think the theory a friend told me last night sounds right: It was Boris Johnson who leaked the cables because he wanted a good reason to remove the diplomat.

Too bad the UK is disintegrating as fast as we are.

It has been a wreck for decades, held together by strings and inertia. Brexit broke the inertia and overstressed the threads that were keeping their system in place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:53:54am

re: #70 William Lewis

I would say they are the best football team of any kind since The Invincibles of 2003 Arsenal. They should be paid accordingly.

I hope they get some juicy endorsement contracts and piss off a lot of MRAs

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:54:30am
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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:55:31am

re: #63 jaunte

What’s the betting that this is like other Trump “declarations” and he never gets around to actually writing the order.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:55:39am

re: #28 Sir John Barron

Wow, such courageous very bravery.

////

Virginia Roberts was working at Mar-a-Lago when she was recruited to be a masseuse to Palm Beach hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein. She was lured into a life of depravity and sexual abuse.

From
miamiherald.com

Damned phone

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b.d.  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:57:33am

Well, at least he didn’t try and return a Churchill bust, that would be disrespectful!

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:57:59am

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump suggested that May should take the EU to court.

A weird idea for multiple reasons (one of which is that the UK is part of the EU, it would be suing itself). What would be the grounds? What would be the court?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:58:13am

re: #74 John Hughes

What’s the betting that this is like other Trump “declarations” and he never gets around to actually writing the order.

he’s already forgotten it

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:58:56am

I hope Queen Elizabeth causes her private notes on the Trump visit to be leaked.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:59:50am

re: #50 plansbandc

This video is very satisfying. And I WANT that key chain.

twistedsifter.com

Hot dogs in a jar???

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:01:12pm

re: #80 DangerMan

Hot dogs in a jar???

yes, that is how they sell them here in Germany. Grossbuckets.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:01:37pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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Thats the bozo I was referring g to in#41 above

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:01:59pm

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hope they get some juicy endorsement contracts and piss off a lot of MRAs

I want Marvel to do them up as superheroes just to really piss the MRAs off.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:03:41pm

re: #56 lawhawk

The search warrant against Epstein’s NY home yielded thousands of photos of children.

We’re looking at a range of crimes that could be added to the current indictment:

18 U.S.C. § 2251- Sexual exploitation of children
18 U.S.C. § 2252- Certain activities relating to material involving the sexual exploitation of minors
18 U.S.C. § 2252A- Certain activities relating to material constituting or containing child pornography
18 U.S.C. § 2260- Production of sexually explicit depictions of a minor for importation into the United States

Possession is enough to warrant a conviction. And the time stamps on those photos would be enough to overcome any defense claim that the earlier deal is null and void - even as prosecutors say they aren’t bound by the FL deal, which is suspect on so many other levels.

Wait wait wait

Prosecutors *investigated*?
Before anyone was charged with a crime?

How dey do dat?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:06:45pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹

What if they find a picture of Jared, Junior or Eric getting it on?

What if they find a picture of Ivanka?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:07:34pm

re: #85 The Pie Overlord!

What if they find a picture of Ivanka?

we established that she was to old to be anything but a trainer

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:07:43pm

I AM DYING!!! She is so damned funny.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:08:56pm

re: #64 William Lewis

Are you joking? He’s rich, white & connected. They’ll call it art and it won’t even cost him a day.

They’ll find a technicality
***Never once asserting he didn’t do it***
Just that the search or investigation was illegal

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:09:09pm

re: #87 MsJ

I love her and her loathing of tRump.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:10:14pm

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

I think the theory a friend told me last night sounds right: It was Boris Johnson who leaked the cables because he wanted a good reason to remove the diplomat.

Too bad the UK is disintegrating as fast as we are.

He didn’t need to
Guy was gonna retire at the end of the year..so I think I read

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:13:47pm

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we established that she was to old to be anything but a trainer

How do you figure that? She was the same age at the same time Katie Johnson says Trump raped her in 1994. Both were 13 then.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:15:46pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, that is how they sell them here in Germany. Grossbuckets.

Farbeit for me to question the experts on the best of the wurst
I assumed an American video (my privilege showing thru?)

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:18:34pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:19:37pm

re: #92 DangerMan

Farbeit for me to question the experts on the best of the wurst
I assumed an American video (my privilege showing thru?)

I did not note the provenance of the hot dogs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:21:40pm

seems they are a British thing

princes.co.uk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:22:38pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:23:36pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:25:32pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

To achieve the dream of always having to report to work, well past the point where I can physically or mentally handle it, that is my America

I remember Rick Santorum talking about how his grandfather “worked until the day he died”, which to me just sounded like he had a really poor pension plan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:29:29pm

re: #91 Skip Intro

How do you figure that? She was the same age at the same time Katie Johnson says Trump raped her in 1994. Both were 13 then.

I don’t think Melania was here yet…

or perhaps she was.

egad

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:29:37pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Here old man, hump this pack of shingles up to that 3rd story roof.”

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:30:10pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I just love it when people with high paying, work 2 hours a day jobs trot out this bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:33:03pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

I was gonna support Warren, but…Olive Oil? OLIVE OIL?!?!

Bacon grease, or GTFO!!!!!!

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:33:25pm

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t think Melania was here yet…

or perhaps she was.

egad

I was talking about Ivanka.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:33:43pm

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember Rick Santorum talking about how his grandfather “worked until the day he died”, which to me just sounded like he had a really poor pension plan.

Dad’s dad worked until the day he died at 91
His choice. He could have retired anytime. Self employed

Mom’s dad retired at 65 on the nose. Also self employed.
Lived to 94 and totally enjoyed it. They traveled a lot and lived a life of modest leisure.
Married to Grandma for 70 years.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:34:36pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or keep working til you die because otherwise you can’t afford to live.

As it is, there is a crunch for finding qualified people to fill existing jobs, and Trump’s immigration policy is making that situation worse (go figure).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:34:55pm

re: #104 DangerMan

Dad’s dad worked until the day he died at 91
His choice. He could have retired anytime. Self employed

That is fine if you have a job you enjoy and wish to pursue, but most people would be doing it out of dire necessity.

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calochortus  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:35:50pm

re: #100 Eventual Carrion

“Here old man, hump this pack of shingles up to that 3rd story roof.”

Also, even when you are doing a job you are capable of and generally enjoy doing, if you keep at it until you’re 80, people below you at the company are stuck where they are and can’t move up. This leads to a moral dilemma about whether you have a responsibility to retire or not, and I certainly can’t provide an answer for all situations, but it can be discouraging for 40 year olds who can’t get promotions they really deserve.

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mmmirele  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:36:04pm

re: #29 lawhawk

I just want to point out that this may also be a mental health issue as in the Arizona Department of Corrections may have dumped the alleged killer without the appropriate mental health follow up. Still is a horrible thing to happen but given the way ADOC operates, this is tiresomely typical.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:37:16pm

re: #105 lawhawk

Or keep working til you die because otherwise you can’t afford to live.

As it is, there is a crunch for finding qualified people to fill existing jobs, and Trump’s immigration policy is making that situation worse (go figure).

Hungary recently passed a mandatory overtime law, requiring employees to perform up to 400 hours of overtime a year if the employer deems them necessary.

It does require them to be paid, but the employer can defer payment for up to a year.

Hungary also has the some of the most restrictive immigration policies in Europe

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:37:17pm

Barr recused himself from the case involving Epstein. via CNN

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b.d.  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:38:22pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Barr recused himself from the case involving Epstein. via CNN

lol, we know how much Trump loves recusals.

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:38:27pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Well that’s going to really set Trump off.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:38:48pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Barr recused himself from the case involving Epstein. via CNN

Well, that should make his daddy happy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:38:51pm

re: #108 mmmirele

I just want to point out that this may also be a mental health issue as in the Arizona Department of Corrections may have dumped the alleged killer without the appropriate mental health follow up. Still is a horrible thing to happen but given the way ADOC operates, this is tiresomely typical.

Thank god we are dealing with a mentally disturbed lone wolf. Don’t want this to reflect poorly on True Patriots Standing Their Ground.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:39:12pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Barr recused himself from the case involving Epstein. via CNN

Didn’t the last AG get himself into trouble for recusing himself?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:39:46pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

The thing is, I’d bet the 23% who don’t expect to retire are mostly people whose jobs barely pay enough for them to live now, and a lot of those jobs aren’t the kind you can keep doing forever.

The page I posted over the weekend, about that NPR story on El Centro, the city with the worst employment situation in America talked about a lot of older farmworkers, who can’t do the work anymore, and can’t find other jobs either. Pretty sure they’re among the 23% who don’t expect to retire.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:41:08pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

Barr recused himself from the case involving Epstein. via CNN

Well, so much for Epstein-Barr!

Somebody had to say it.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:41:11pm

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is fine if you have a job you enjoy and wish to pursue, but most people would be doing it out of dire necessity.

understand completely and agree

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:41:34pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:43:48pm

re: #112 Skip Intro

Well that’s going to really set Trump off.

Trump: Billy Barr. Don’t know him. But I think he got coffee for that Page kid.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:44:05pm

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

This bird nest on my front porch light was not here yesterday

next they’re gonna force you out

Manifest Destiny!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:44:20pm

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

We keep getting those on the light over our back porch. Used to be the heat from the bulb would discourage the birds, but what with CFLs and LED bulbs, we have had to resort to putting a rubber snake up there.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:45:03pm

Fucking Bernie bros. GAH.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:45:16pm

re: #111 b.d.

lol, we know how much Trump loves recusals.

Gotta admit, I’m genuinely surprised.

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Skip Intro  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:48:52pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

There’s probably something happening that we don’t know about yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:50:10pm
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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:50:53pm

Does anyone else see the issue here? Obtuse to say the least.

Out of 419 amendments Sanders sponsored over his 25 years in Congress, 90 passed, 21 of them by roll call votes. Here’s a breakdown (bold indicates Republican Congresses):

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:52:16pm

re: #127 MsJ

That roll call vote is for amendments, which doesn’t actually say what the amendments are.

As for specific ideas, he drafted 324 bills, of which only 3 were enacted.

3.

Two of them were for post offices.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:56:09pm

re: #128 lawhawk

That roll call vote is for amendments, which doesn’t actually say what the amendments are.

As for specific ideas, he drafted 324 bills, of which only 3 were enacted.

3.

Two of them were for post offices.

I just can’t even with these freaking people.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:57:01pm

re: #128 lawhawk

This is the list of amendments that he got passed, for what it’s worth.

docs.google.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 12:58:05pm

re: #130 lawhawk

This is the list of amendments that he got passed, for what it’s worth.

docs.google.com

The Lyin’ Of The Senate.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:02:42pm

AG Barr says he’s recused himself from Epstein case

Attorney General William P. Barr told reporters Monday he recused himself from the case involving Jeffrey Epstein, according to CNN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:03:58pm
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:04:58pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:06:57pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:10:04pm

good fucking grief

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:10:07pm

re: #127 MsJ

Find anyone who’s done half of what Sanders has done for the American people

Does anyone else see the issue here? Obtuse to say the least.

‘the american people’?

read what some of those ‘amendments’ were for - right there at the link

S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other …
S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.
H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.
H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:12:39pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:12:51pm

re: #116 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, I’d bet the 23% who don’t expect to retire are mostly people whose jobs barely pay enough for them to live now, and a lot of those jobs aren’t the kind you can keep doing forever.

You would be surprised how many in IT continue to work long past their retirement age. People who I used to work with 30+ years ago are still working at the same company.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:13:26pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

[Trump says that forest management is “a word that people didn’t understand last year,” until he started talking about it.]

Get the rakes. Don’t tell Trump about ‘prescribed burns’ or he’ll be running around out there with matches.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:15:29pm
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BlueGrl21  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:16:03pm

re: #139 Eric The Fruit Bat

You would be surprised how many in IT continue to work long past their retirement age. People who I used to work with 30+ years ago are still working at the same company.

Especially if you work with mainframers.

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mmmirele  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:16:23pm

re: #139 Eric The Fruit Bat

You would be surprised how many in IT continue to work long past their retirement age. People who I used to work with 30+ years ago are still working at the same company.

I work in IT and I’m on the Work Til I Drop Plan. I have the potential where I may need to support my mother and brother financially, so retirement is out.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:16:44pm
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sagehen  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:17:52pm

re: #139 Eric The Fruit Bat

You would be surprised how many in IT continue to work long past their retirement age. People who I used to work with 30+ years ago are still working at the same company.

Because

1) it’s a sitting-down-at-your-desk kind of job, geriatric medical issues don’t interfere with the work

2) people who entered the field in the last 10-15 years, don’t know the hardware or software that was common 30+ years ago, so the oldsters can command top dollar.

“Work until you drop dead” has a different meaning to stonemasons, roofers, movers, truckers, etc.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:18:25pm

re: #137 DangerMan

Oh, and he’s comparing a guy who’s been in the Senate since 2007 (and the House since 1991) with the numbers of bills passed/enacted/consponsored by Warren (in Senate since 2014) and Harris (in Senate since 2017).

Yeah, he’s blocked for obtuse dumbassery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:18:59pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire brings us this brilliant analysis from Michael Knowles, explaining that “soccer is anti-American” because it involves non-American teams.

It is a socilist sport

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:21:05pm
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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:22:00pm

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:22:28pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:25:48pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

#BREAKING: Barr says Trump admin can legally add citizenship question to census hill.cm

but so far he didnt say how

and if it was so easy, why did the take the route they took (and got slapped down for)?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:26:18pm

O_o

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:26:30pm

Swalwell is out. Steyer may enter?

Nope. The field has to shrink by half, and then half again. The next month should see more leave - and take up the fight at the state level, including Senate runs.

That’s absolutely critical to stopping the GOP. It’s more than just Trump. You have to stop the GOP at all levels, including in the Senate.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:26:40pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire brings us this brilliant analysis from Michael Knowles, explaining that “soccer is anti-American” because it involves non-American teams.

- baseball
- hockey

—arrgh.. time for bourbon

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:27:10pm

re: #142 BlueGrl21

Especially if you work with mainframers.

Ah-yup. Lots of huge corporations are scared to death because they don’t want to take the risk of moving off the mainframe, and they have gotten to the point of having to do their own in-house training for dinosaurs mainframe replacements.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:27:42pm

re: #154 DangerMan

Basketball.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:28:38pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Basketball.

Canadian Football League.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:29:02pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

In this environmental speech, Trump is leaving most of the statistics and policy talk to his senior officials, who he’s inviting up to speak. Now Energy Secretary Rick Perry: “He knows more about energy than anybody.”

A guy who got a “C” in his class at Texas A&M entitled “Meats”, and a fellow who, upon being appointed Secretary of Energy, announced that he was unaware that he also was in charge of America’s nuclear arsenal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:29:35pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Canadian Football League.

Japanese and Cuban baseball.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:32:07pm

re: #153 lawhawk

I really like Swalwell as my representative, but I’m glad he’s no longer a presidential candidate.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:32:18pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:33:09pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:34:27pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

To achieve the dream of always having to report to work, well past the point where I can physically or mentally handle it, that is my America

Might almost generate some economic anxiety—-and a climbing suicide rate.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:34:40pm

Lost in the day’s Epstein news:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:35:15pm

re: #160 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

I really like Swalwell as my representative, but I’m glad he’s no longer a presidential candidate.

I like having him in Congress, and he was never going to get the nomination anyhow.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:35:46pm

re: #145 sagehen

2) people who entered the field in the last 10-15 years, don’t know the hardware or software that was common 30+ years ago, so the oldsters can command top dollar

You would be surprised what IBM has done with their mainframes even as far back as the 1990’s - new instructions were added to deal with the quirks of Unix (i.e., null terminated strings), making the G5/G6 series Spec 1170 compliant -and with Java, supporting it in specialty processors which doesn’t go against your MSU count. And IBM was doing Virtual Machines decades before it became fashionable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:36:37pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

Might almost generate some economic anxiety—-and a climbing suicide rate.

Fox guest enthusiastically spins a new survey showing 23% of American expect to never retire: “What a great country where we have the opportunity to keep working. … We don’t have to retire like generations before us. This is a great blessing! You should embrace it!”

And Big Brother just raised the chocolate ration to 30 grams a week from 50 grams last week…

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Old Liberal  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:36:56pm

re: #164 lawhawk

Lost in the day’s Epstein news:

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Broidy is tangled in the abortion payment to a possible drumpf mistress but that was buried under the daily shitstorm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:37:43pm

re: #168 Old Liberal

Broidy is tangled in the abortion payment to a possible drumpf mistress but that was buried under the daily shitstorm

Did they take the baby out, wrap it in blanket, care for it and then decide whether or not to kill it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:38:02pm

I like the idea of working part time at something after I’m retired from full time, maybe at a Church or something where I can make some good contributions.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:39:32pm

re: #150 MsJ

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Has Baby Whiplash heard of the World Series? What a fucking dumbass.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:39:47pm

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Big Brother just raised the chocolate ration to 30 grams a week from 50 grams last week…

Chef’s kiss!

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:43:47pm

A random person picked off the street would be a better President than the fat orange tyrant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:44:04pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

Might almost generate some economic anxiety—-and a climbing suicide rate.

The cult of work by people who don’t really work except to spew propaganda about work.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:45:30pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:46:19pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Just doesn’t know “meats” I guess.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:48:11pm

re: #155 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah-yup. Lots of huge corporations are scared to death because they don’t want to take the risk of moving off the mainframe, and they have gotten to the point of having to do their own in-house training for dinosaurs mainframe replacements.

Yeah, I haven’t done mainframe since the 80’s. Might get back to it as the money looks to be had because of the scarcity of people that know them.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:50:37pm

re: #176 Eventual Carrion

Meat and Muscle Biology, the official journal of the American Meat Science Association:

“High quality, pertinent, and timely basic and applied research will be published on meat and muscle biology from domestic mammals, avians, aquaculture species, amphibians, wild capture mammals, and synthetic meat analogs.”
meatscience.org

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:51:30pm

re: #166 Eric The Fruit Bat

You would be surprised what IBM has done with their mainframes even as far back as the 1990’s - new instructions were added to deal with the quirks of Unix (i.e., null terminated strings), making the G5/G6 series Spec 1170 compliant -and with Java, supporting it in specialty processors which doesn’t go against your MSU count. And IBM was doing Virtual Machines decades before it became fashionable.

They had even started implementing web services to access CICS transactions on the mainframe. That opened things up bigly to other system being able to communicate with mainframe data.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:51:30pm

re: #178 jaunte

Meat and Muscle Biology, the official journal of the American Meat Science Association:

Don’t you just love those beefcake mags?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:53:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:58:04pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:59:39pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t go hoping for a long prison sentence folks. Epstein is white, rich and connected.

SDNY is also rich and connected.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 1:59:52pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:01:08pm

re: #184 jaunte

Extreme wealth generates a sense of being above the law, above morality, above any form of restraint.

It gives them the ability to unduly influence politicians and legislation to favor further concentration of wealth.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:01:31pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:02:29pm

So is Jeffrey Epstein still singing Thank Heaven For Little Girls?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:04:20pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:05:25pm

re: #179 Eventual Carrion

They had even started implementing web services to access CICS transactions on the mainframe. That opened things up bigly to other system being able to communicate with mainframe data.

And that was just the first cut - now with z/OS Connect it’s gotten even easier. And even IMS now has a repository to make interfacing with BMP and DLI a doodle….

Hell, they haven’t been able to kill off TPF….

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:05:42pm

re: #184 jaunte

Extreme wealth generates a sense of being above the law, above morality, above any form of restraint.

At the turn of the XXI Cent, the catchphrase was “Masters of the Universe”. They meant it.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:07:13pm

Just fuck these motherfuckers. I’m too fucking mad to be civil. I’m a historian, but I don’t actually want to live in the Middle Ages.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Monday announced the formation of a new commission that will take a “fresh look” at human rights through the lens of “natural law,” and civil and human rights advocates are outraged. In preliminary filings the State Dept. noted the Commission will explore “our nation’s founding principles of natural law and natural rights.”

“Natural law,” is religious right wing extremist code for anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ rights, especially marriage for same-sex couples.

Secretary Pompeo, a known right wing Christian extremist in his own right, has named Mary Ann Glendon, a professor who is also his former mentor, to lead the “Commission on Unalienable Rights.”

Glendon is an anti-abortion, anti-gay Catholic activist who served as U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See (the Vatican) under President George W. Bush. She is also known for her opposition to the use of condoms to reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS.**

“I hope that the commission will revisit the most basic of questions: What does it mean to claim something is, in fact, a human right?” Pompeo told reporters Monday, adding … that “words like rights can be used for good or evil.” source

** Evil witch

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:07:15pm

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

And if they do, we will not be able to afford our medications and we will die. It is literally a death sentence for us.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:07:43pm

re: #191 Teddy’s Person

Just fuck these motherfuckers. I’m too fucking mad to be civil. I’m a historian, but I don’t actually want to live in the Middle Ages.

** Evil witch

This is why I can’t be civil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:08:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:09:18pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

This is why I can’t be civil.

You have to be civil enough to get within arm’s reach.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:09:57pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trumpco needs to stop trying to make Ivanka happen.

edited to say what I actually meant.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:10:21pm

re: #195 Decatur Deb

You have to be civil enough to get within arm’s reach.

Come sit by me…

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:10:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:11:11pm

re: #196 Teddy’s Person

Trumpco needs to stop making Ivanka happen.

I am waiting for them to find her picture in Epstein’s stash.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:12:58pm

re: #199 The Pie Overlord!

I am waiting for them to find her picture in Epstein’s stash.

I will have very mixed feelings if that happens.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:15:16pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:16:25pm

re: #201 jaunte

If supporting Trump means sticking up for his child-molesting friend, then that’s what they’re going to do.

I think they are getting pre-emptive in case this case starts to get too close to DT personally.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:16:29pm

re: #198 MsJ

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He looks like Burgermeister Meisterburger from Santa Claus Is Comin’ to Town. Only orange.

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:16:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:16:39pm

re: #201 jaunte

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We get it, Fox, diddling girls is cool. Bet this guy has some secrets.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:17:26pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

All they have is “it’s a do-over”, while the crime has no statute of limitations.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:17:27pm

re: #201 jaunte

Let me know when that guy has some words with his shithead wife.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:17:28pm

Oh Look A Idiot:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:17:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:17:37pm

re: #203 Teddy’s Person

He looks like Burgermeister Meisterburger from Santa Claus Is Comin’ to Town. Only orange.

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He hates toys.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:18:49pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Oh Look A Idiot:

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You’re an idiot Walsh but go ahead shit on superior athletes to your old right wing ass who worships a man who has never seen a gym before.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:19:25pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Wait til he hears Trump bragging about all his club championships.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:19:58pm

blech

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:20:58pm

re: #207 MsJ

Let me know when that guy has some words with his shithead wife.

George and Kellyanne are planning for a future where at least one of them is employable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:21:33pm

re: #214 Teddy’s Person

George and Kellyanne are planning for a future where at least one of them is employable.

It is all Performance Art at a political level

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:21:39pm
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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:23:11pm

re: #214 Teddy’s Person

George and Kellyanne are planning for a future where at least one of them is employable.

I know. Fuck them both.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:24:49pm
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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:26:47pm

I hate every single day of this administration.

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:27:43pm

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is all Performance Art at a political level

They’re going to co-host a future version of cross-fire, the set will be a fake kitchen where they can talk about issues over a fake kitchen table.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:30:28pm

re: #219 MsJ

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steve_davis  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:30:35pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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right after the footage ends, the cows did an absolutely stirring rendition of “Where art thou hidden now, Hope of Hungaria.”

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:32:11pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alas. Laws don’t apply to them.

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Old Liberal  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:33:58pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Oh Look A Idiot:

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Half the women in this country don’t stand for this shit anymore. Just don’t understand the balance. Yes 30% are batshit insane, but the other 20% I just don’t get it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:34:17pm

re: #223 MsJ

Alas. Laws don’t apply to them.

It’s the Trump version of what Andrew Jackson did when Marshall ruled against him on the Indian Removal Act. Yet another reason why these guys need to be booted out of office.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:34:57pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

AP: Federal grand jury probing GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy
NEW YORK (AP) — A federal grand jury in New York is investigating top Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy (BROY-dee), examining whether he used his position as vice chair of President Donald…

apnews.com

these days, I {heart} New York

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:35:41pm

re: #224 Old Liberal

Half the women in this country don’t stand for this shit anymore. Just don’t understand the balance. Yes 30% are batshit insane, but the other 20% I just don’t get it.

They don’t think it can happen to them.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:35:47pm
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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:37:16pm

re: #228 MsJ

It’s a shame he has to resign from the Oversight and Reform Committee.

I’m curious where he goes from here.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:37:32pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Oh Look A Idiot:

So very Patriot American is Matt, and so very classy act.

/////

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:37:37pm

re: #224 Old Liberal

Half the women in this country don’t stand for this shit anymore. Just don’t understand the balance. Yes 30% are batshit insane, but the other 20% I just don’t get it.

Guess where shitty little boys come from.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:37:43pm
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Old Liberal  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:38:14pm

re: #227 KGxvi

They don’t think it can happen to them.

Yes but it does. They are harassed, demeaned, underpaid, disrespected, discriminated against and see the same happening to their own daughters.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:39:41pm

re: #189 Eric The Fruit Bat

And that was just the first cut - now with z/OS Connect it’s gotten even easier. And even IMS now has a repository to make interfacing with BMP and DLI a doodle….

Hell, they haven’t been able to kill off TPF….

you techs and your lingo, argot, jargon

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:39:46pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mr. Lieu is explaining how things are supposed to work. Thanks to Mitch, the current precedent is that Republicans can do whatever the fuck they want. How do you solve a problem like a rogue public servant? A state with 1% of the US population sent the destroyer of our republic to the Senate.

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:40:10pm

re: #233 Old Liberal

Yes but it does. They are harassed, demeaned, underpaid, disrespected, discriminated against and see the same happening to their own daughters.

I’m not disagreeing with you. But I think a lot of that 20% either thinks “it’s an isolated incident” or they find some other way to rationalize it in order to convince themselves that it doesn’t really happen to them.

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Old Liberal  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:40:17pm

re: #233 Old Liberal

Yes but it does. They are harassed, demeaned, underpaid, disrespected, discriminated against and see the same happening to their own daughters.

They wear the Trump grab my pussy” shirts. WTF WTF WTF

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:41:33pm
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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:41:46pm

re: #229 KGxvi

It’s a shame he has to resign from the Oversight and Reform Committee.

I’m curious where he goes from here.

He’s done as a conservative. And all Republicans are conservatives now. He could be a spoiler in the general election though.

IOW, Who knows?

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:42:03pm

re: #206 jaunte

All they have is “it’s a do-over”, while the crime has no statute of limitations.

AND new crimes (what a concept)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:42:25pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:42:50pm

WTFITS

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:43:06pm

re: #237 Old Liberal

They wear the Trump grab my pussy” shirts. WTF WTF WTF

It’s a special kind of grift.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:43:11pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then how come he couldn’t remember the name of the agency (Department of Energy) he wanted to eliminate?

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:43:21pm

re: #235 Teddy’s Person

Mr. Lieu is explaining how things are supposed to work. Thanks to Mitch, the current precedent is that Republicans can do whatever the fuck they want. How do you solve a problem like a rogue public servant? A state with 1% of the US population sent the destroyer of our republic to the Senate.

If the House were to follow through on impeachment, there isn’t a lot that McConnell could actually do. Most of the processes are already in place and fairly automatic. Setting out the full case, on a myriad of impeachable offenses, over the course of weeks in the House hearings and then again in the Senate trial should have an effect. Even if the Senate GOP votes for acquittal across the board… you spend the next decade or two embarrassing every one of them in every re-election campaign that they were ok with supporting the most corrupt president in American history because “he was on their team.”

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:43:23pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Oh Look A Idiot:

The US women’s soccer team gloated after beating extremely weak opponents

ie - just every other team in the world

(yes i know they didnt literally play them all)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:45:24pm

re: #232 gocart mozart

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:46:01pm

re: #245 KGxvi

If the House were to follow through on impeachment, there isn’t a lot that McConnell could actually do. Most of the processes are already in place and fairly automatic. Setting out the full case, on a myriad of impeachable offenses, over the course of weeks in the House hearings and then again in the Senate trial should have an effect. Even if the Senate GOP votes for acquittal across the board… you spend the next decade or two embarrassing every one of them in every re-election campaign that they were ok with supporting the most corrupt president in American history because “he was on their team.”

If we fuck up the next election, the next decade or two will not fit any imaginable scenario.

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cat-tikvah  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:47:57pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Next year congressional GOP attendance will be mandatory.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:48:59pm

re: #245 KGxvi

If the House were to follow through on impeachment, there isn’t a lot that McConnell could actually do. Most of the processes are already in place and fairly automatic. Setting out the full case, on a myriad of impeachable offenses, over the course of weeks in the House hearings and then again in the Senate trial should have an effect. Even if the Senate GOP votes for acquittal across the board… you spend the next decade or two embarrassing every one of them in every re-election campaign that they were ok with supporting the most corrupt president in American history because “he was on their team.”

Instant Senate acquittal.

Poor pitiful Republicans screaming WOE IS ME say after day after day after day.

Republicans take back the house, retain the Senate and trump is reelected.

Tell me again what you think this will do.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:00pm

re: #248 Decatur Deb

If we fuck up the next election, the next decade or two will not fit any imaginable scenario.

There may be enough Democrats to do an i-word AND win an election.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:43pm

re: #242 The Pie Overlord!

Iran better be careful, because if they actually get nukes Trump is going to write love letters.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:49pm

re: #242 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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I could spend days writing a list of all of Trumps obnoxious public speaking habits, and this coy routine he trots out with some regularity would be near the top. The deplorables want to see it as a sign of his stable genius. Ooo, something big is coming. I see it as a long-practiced rhetorical crutch for someone who doesn’t know a damn thing.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:56pm

re: #233 Old Liberal

Yes but it does. They are harassed, demeaned, underpaid, disrespected, discriminated against and see the same happening to their own daughters.

Yeah, but they’re used to that. They don’t think they need an abortion or will be on their own to have to get health care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:49:59pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:50:51pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

There may be enough Democrats to do an i-word AND win an election.

As long as the one doesn’t get in the way of the other. Make sure any impeachment does not come to Senate trial any time soon.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:51:29pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s what pets are for.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:52:04pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

There may be enough Democrats to do an i-word AND win an election.

This would require a 75% decrease in candidates for presidential nominee…. That’s a tall order.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:52:05pm

re: #242 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

President Trump: “Iran better be careful. Because you enrich for one reason and I won’t tell you what that reason is. But it’s no good. They better be careful.”

what i wrote downstairs this morning re: Iran:

- we (actually trump himself) unilaterally withdrew from the deal
- Iran started enriching uranium. going over the limit of a deal that no longer exists (at least for us)

so what brilliant strategy awaits?

- negotiate a new deal? would look a lot like the last deal (a la nafta 2) though he’d lie to his base. Why would Iran bother? they couldnt possibly trust him.

- more sanctions? what the hell is left that’s not already sanctioned? he’s even going after individuals in government

- war! (and, you know, screw congress). sure drones wouldnt put americans in danger (ahem) immediately. But Iran’s not stupid - they could *easily* have something blown up here. I don’t even want to game that one out.

foreign policy *is* looking at the board 20 moves into the future.
that future just smacked trump in the puss.

he’s got no good options, and he did this to himself.

you dont really have to game out a real shooting war too far… if americans are killed he’s gonna have a lot of ‘splainin to do on the campaign trail

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:52:12pm

re: #246 DangerMan

ie - just every other team in the world

(yes i know they didnt literally play them all)

The USWNT is the top ranked team in the world.

In this tournament they beat:

England (3rd)
France (4th)
The Netherlands (8th)
Sweden (9th)
Spain (13th)

Plus Chile and Thailand.

In 7 games they outscored their opponents 26-3 (and 13-3 if you exclude the 13-0 rout of Thailand).

That’s not exactly weak competition. The Belgian men’s team isn’t steamrolling through Brazil, England, Uruguay, Switzerland, and Colombia the way the USWNT just ran through the equivalently ranked teams.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:52:38pm

re: #242 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

Some other world leader needs to come out and say that Iran cannot be used as a distrction for Trump’s crimes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:53:08pm

Hey fuckbucket, where were you when your MAGA POS45 rubbed his crotch on a flag?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:53:19pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Oh Look A Idiot:

This is a very bad take. Maybe he’s trying for an award.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:53:20pm

re: #245 KGxvi

If the House were to follow through on impeachment, there isn’t a lot that McConnell could actually do. Most of the processes are already in place and fairly automatic. Setting out the full case, on a myriad of impeachable offenses, over the course of weeks in the House hearings and then again in the Senate trial should have an effect. Even if the Senate GOP votes for acquittal across the board… you spend the next decade or two embarrassing every one of them in every re-election campaign that they were ok with supporting the most corrupt president in American history because “he was on their team.”

preceded by long, and nauseatingly detailed public hearings in the house first

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:54:41pm

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

Hey fuckbucket, where were you when your MAGA POS45 rubbed his crotch on a flag?

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You support the guy who belittled POWs. Fuck off Trump asskissser.

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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:55:13pm

re: #253 Teddy’s Person

I could spend days writing a list of all of Trumps obnoxious public speaking habits, and this coy routine he trots out with some regularity would be near the top. The deplorables want to see it as a sign of his stable genius. Ooo, something big is coming. I see it as a long-practiced rhetorical crutch for someone who doesn’t know a damn thing.

…and is never called on it three days later for the details he said were coming

because…new squirrel….

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:55:53pm

One thing about having to use a backup Twitter account, I can see the & ridicule Tweets of all the wingnut snowflakes who blocked VB.

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KGxvi  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:58:07pm

re: #265 DangerMan

preceded by long, and nauseatingly detailed public hearings in the house first

Absolutely. I’m not saying vote to impeach tomorrow. Go through the process. Have multiple hearing in front of multiple committees. And cover everything:

obstruction of justice, emoluments, nepotism, corruption/graft, crimes against humanity (see the ICE detention facilities), abuse of power (declaring national emergencies to bypass congress), and all the rest. I’m talking 2-3 months of hearings where every illegal/unlawful thing that Trump has done since taking office is laid out bare.

If the Senate acquits him, so be it. But it won’t be before the end of a 2-3 month impeachment trial.

If you really believe that 4-6 months of a wide ranging impeachment inquiry and trial won’t be enough to bring down Trump and the GOP, then there really isn’t anything that will and it’s time to consider relocating.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:58:13pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 8, 2019 • 2:58:19pm

re: #234 DangerMan

you techs and your lingo, argot, jargon

Hey, I’m just talking historical tech-jargon.

The Guardian has an up-to-date tech-bro lingo:

disrupt (v) - To create a new market, either by inventing something completely new (ie the personal computer, the smartphone) or by ignoring the rules of an old market. If the latter, often illegal, but rarely prosecuted. Uber disrupted the taxi industry by flooding the market with illegal cabs, while Airbnb disrupted the hotel market by flooding the market with illegal sublets. See sharing economy.

revolutionize (v) - To change something that does not need to be changed in order to charge money for its replacement. “Apple revolutionized the experience of using headphones when it killed the headphone jack on iPhones.”

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:00:38pm

re: #271 Eric The Fruit Bat

Freejitsu: writing software that makes you wealthy by renting out other people’s labor and capital investment in cars and houses.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:06:24pm

re: #36 MsJ

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Around 5:30 I gagged and had to stop…
Too many damned monsters walking the earth.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:07:10pm

re: #273 Jebediah, RBG

Around 5:30 I gagged and had to stop…
Too many damned monsters walking the earth.

I know. I’m sorry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:09:54pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love ya, Mr. Lieu, but don’t be surprised if Trump and his merry band of assholes just print that question on the Census forms and send them out anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:11:25pm

Lre: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

I love ya, Mr. Lieu, but don’t be surprised if Trump and his merry band of assholes just print that question on the Census forms and send them out anyway.

I expect that. Man all this pisses me off so much. So much disregard for the law and then the scum bags attack undocumented immigrants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:11:35pm
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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:11:43pm

alas the great app MAKA Make America Kittens Again may recognize jeffrey epstein so i wont have to keep seeing his ugly mug

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:14:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:15:54pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:16:45pm

Something that has stuck in my craw the least few days is after Gallagher was acquitted of all the charges but the one for posing with the dead ISIS guy, Trump tweeted out a congratulations and said “Glad I could help!” How the hell did he help? Did he interfere in some way with the prosecutors’ witnesses? Did he interfere with the process?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:16:46pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s a hell of an answer for a six year-old.

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wrenchwench  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:16:54pm

re: #278 DangerMan

alas the great app MAKA Make America Kittens Again may recognize jeffrey epstein so i wont have to keep seeing his ugly mug

The media should quit printing his name, and just call him ‘commercial pedophile’ or whatever pronouns they see as appropriate.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:19:19pm

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a hell of an answer for a six year-old.

Little metal-head.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:24:43pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rubio is a worthless shit.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:25:45pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This makes my heart hurt.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:27:25pm

re: #286 Teddy’s Person

This makes my heart hurt.

It’s like. Oh? We’re supposed to feel bad for you Marco?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:27:53pm

re: #285 HappyWarrior

Rubio is a worthless shit.

How does that distinguish him from any other Republican Senator?

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:29:08pm

re: #287 HappyWarrior

It’s like. Oh? We’re supposed to feel bad for you Marco?

I was responding to the first grader who thought the response to a brain-teaser was “death.” This generation of first graders who know they could be killed at school.

Marco makes my blood pressure rise.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:30:22pm

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

How does that distinguish him from any other Republican Senator?

Didn’t say that he was. But honestly I prefer people like Steve King since he lets you know he’s an asshole. Rubio pretends to care.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:31:10pm

re: #289 Teddy’s Person

I was responding to the first grader who thought the response to a brain-teaser was “death.” This generation of first graders who know they could be killed at school.

Marco makes my blood pressure rise.

Gotcha. It’s awful for the kids and yes me too, he’s an enabler of the worst kind.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:33:24pm

Alright. Until tomorrow:

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:34:35pm

re: #269 KGxvi

Absolutely. I’m not saying vote to impeach tomorrow. Go through the process. Have multiple hearing in front of multiple committees. And cover everything:

obstruction of justice, emoluments, nepotism, corruption/graft, crimes against humanity (see the ICE detention facilities), abuse of power (declaring national emergencies to bypass congress), and all the rest. I’m talking 2-3 months of hearings where every illegal/unlawful thing that Trump has done since taking office is laid out bare.

If the Senate acquits him, so be it. But it won’t be before the end of a 2-3 month impeachment trial.

If you really believe that 4-6 months of a wide ranging impeachment inquiry and trial won’t be enough to bring down Trump and the GOP, then there really isn’t anything that will and it’s time to consider relocating.

I read about Amash’s interview last night and just had to nod my head to his comments about Nancy. That she is making a moral as well as strategic mistake in not starting the impeach process. And that her insistence on holding off until the party has a strong case indicates she doesn’t believe she has a strong case, which is contradictory to her constant insistence to the press that she does. It was another iteration of the reality that Pelosi needs to “shit or get off the pot,” that if she’s not going to impeach Trump then she needs to spell that out and explain her reason(s) why.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:35:31pm

It is a waste of time and energy to argue with, let alone try to convert, Trump supporters. They do not care how stupid, inept or venal he is. He is delivering the goods for them: Tax cuts and gutted regulation for fatcats, charter schools and access to the public trough for pulpit pimps and their superstitious dupes, white supremacy for goobers.
Trying to persuade them as though they were normally ethical and well-intentioned people will only legitimize their scam. Piss on them.
The only way to win is to get out the vote, new voters will vote Democrat.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:35:31pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:36:42pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:37:54pm

Cy Vance needs to resign and be investigated

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:38:25pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Alright. Until tomorrow:

toodles!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:43:31pm

re: #296 Dread Pirate

Wow. This administration is awful and dangerous on so many levels. Now it’s making it easier for traffickers.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:46:39pm
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sagehen  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:52:00pm

OT: On PBS tonight, part 1 of American Experience: Chasing the Moon

(parts 2 and 3 are tomorrow and wednesday)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:52:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:58:22pm

could be the bridge in NOS4R2…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 3:58:33pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:14:06pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:18:36pm

somebody must have told the moron that red California got the smite.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:20:17pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:22:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:24:01pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:24:02pm

re: #274 MsJ

I know. I’m sorry.

Oh, don’t apologize! Stuff like this needs a wide audience. More people need to understand what trmp and some of his friends really are… plus it’s not like you misrepresented the video at all. I knew what I was in for, just wasn’t sure how long I could watch.

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:25:43pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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It’s been my experience that when someone says “it’s the principle of the thing,” it’s because the conduct/actions they disapprove of are not technically against the law/rule, but they want an excuse to issue a punishment.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:27:28pm

re: #300 gocart mozart

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That whole thread is worth reading.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:29:02pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:30:15pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d hate to see the bill the lawyers are gonna be sending him for the overtime spent trying to argue that all those CDs are inadmissible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:32:52pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:33:19pm

re: #313 Teddy’s Person

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I’d say the wingnuts would be conflicted about this versus the inevitable denials by Trump…but I also know that they’re able to keep multiple contradictory thoughts in their head simultaneously, so I think we all know we can look forward to a lot of wingnuts hoping that this will be the case that finally brings down Bill and Hillary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:35:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:36:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:39:56pm

when a dog chooses you, you know it’s real

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:40:51pm

re: #316 Targetpractice

Here are some of their 4chan talking points regarding Trump’s involvement:

COLLECTED COUNTER POINTS FOR MOCKINGBIRD SPIN

Can Anons add smth & help backing up with sauce, please?

- Trump kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his Golf Club and banned him for life, when he found out, Epstein was hooking up with the 14 Year old daughter of an employer

-Trump is NOT in the flight log to Lolita Island, not even once. He “hitched a ride” back from Daytona Beach TO NYC with Epstein’s son one time…and I have little doubt they tried like holy hell to get Trump to Lolita Island. Epstein assaulted a young girl at Mara Largo and Trump had him banned for life.

-At Epstein’s first arrest Trump went voluntarily to the police to give a statement and at the time the Police commented “He could not have been MORE forthcoming”.

-Trump knew what Epstein was up to “he’s a fun guy, likes his girls young, really really young”. People held that against him as if it were some form of agreement when in fact, in typical Trump fashion he slapped Epstein publicly..iron fist in velvet glove. He was NOT a politician and he had to do business with these people and he still managed to say something about what he knew was going on.

pagesix.com

Source: Adam Silverman Post at Balloon Juice

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:43:59pm

re: #320 Teddy’s Person

Here are some of their 4chan talking points regarding Trump’s involvement:

Source: Adam Silverman Post at Balloon Juice

“You’re known by the company that you keep…if you’re a Democrat. If you’re a Republican, you can rub shoulders with the worst scum on Earth because, well, that’s ‘just business.’”

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:45:59pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:48:18pm

How desperate are Faux to sing Donny’s praises in light of recent bad news? “He’s got a new high job approval rating! 44%!!!”

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:50:26pm

re: #323 Targetpractice

44%, which is still within the margin of error of all the other ratings.

He has been below water ever since entering office. Nothing will change.

He’s close to his ceiling, which also happens to be the floor.

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:52:37pm

Speaking of Faux, it really shouldn’t be seen as a good thing when they’re complimenting Nancy Pelosi…because she’s badmouthing AOC.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:52:53pm

re: #320 Teddy’s Person

That’s a little bit ironic coming from 4chan, since when i went to that site the attitude toward child pornography was “moar plz”.

(that’s why i never went back)

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Sea Mexican  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:55:11pm

re: #142 BlueGrl21

Especially if you work with mainframers.

or anything legacy .

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:55:15pm

re: #325 Targetpractice

Speaking of Faux, it really shouldn’t be seen as a good thing when they’re complimenting Nancy Pelosi…because she’s badmouthing AOC.

It would be useful if they forgot each other’s names for a while.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:56:00pm

re: #320 Teddy’s Person

-Trump knew what Epstein was up to “he’s a fun guy, likes his girls young, really really young”. People held that against him as if it were some form of agreement when in fact, in typical Trump fashion he slapped Epstein publicly..iron fist in velvet glove. He was NOT a politician and he had to do business with these people and he still managed to say something about what he knew was going on.

Because we all know trump says good things about everyone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:58:34pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

when a dog chooses you, you know it’s real

Yep. Zeena chose us.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 4:58:37pm

re: #322 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:01:19pm

re: #330 Blind Frog Belly White

Whippet mix?

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:01:54pm

re: #329 MsJ

Because we all know trump says good things about everyone.

Personally, my favorite is about how he went voluntarily to give a statement and was complimented as being “forthcoming.” Since the documents are (IIRC) under seal, we have no fucking clue just what he said to the cops. But given his history, I’m sure it was to put as much distance between himself and his “friend” as possible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:03:12pm

re: #332 lawhawk

Whippet mix?

Nope. Pure NGA Greyhound. Zeena’s and Rango’s racing weights were both about average for their gender.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:03:49pm

the day Pence abruptly cancelled his trip…

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:05:16pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very interesting.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:08:08pm

re: #333 Targetpractice

Personally, my favorite is about how he went voluntarily to give a statement and was complimented as being “forthcoming.” Since the documents are (IIRC) under seal, we have no fucking clue just what he said to the cops. But given his history, I’m sure it was to put as much distance between himself and his “friend” as possible.

From what I read, the only evidence of Trump cooperating with law enforcement had to do with serving subpoenas, which could be something as simple as him allowing them to be served at Mar-a-Emolument (I guess). The included source was analyzing the spread of misinformation.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:08:39pm
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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:09:52pm

We’ve been here before: ‘Aha, fuckers are going down!’ only to have it not come to fruition because others in key positions of power soft play it.

But hey, at least they got Epstein and hopefully his first layer of accomplices.

They finally got Capone on tax evasion.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:11:00pm

Nice. Found out today human garbage pile Chris Cline died in a helicopter crash. This week is off to a great start.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:12:28pm

Something new I learned today: the Secretary of Labor is responsible for monitoring human trafficking. At times, keeping up with the evil and corruption of Trumpco is one massive civics lesson.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:13:29pm

re: #330 Blind Frog Belly White

I miss Zeena.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:14:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:14:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:15:29pm

re: #342 Stanley Sea

I miss Zeena.

Me too. I keep her pic as the lock screen on my phone. Sweet, funny, quirky girl.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:16:14pm

Read this thread. This is what Epstein was doing

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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:16:25pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody must have told the moron that red California got the smite.

[Embedded content]

“working very closely on emergency funding” is RWNJ for withholding funds for as long as possible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:19:20pm

re: #344 goddamnedfrank

‘men who say things like “technically when they’re past puberty it’s called ephebophiloa”’

I feel as if she’s making insufficient allowance for pedantry.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:20:49pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:22:22pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Pedantry is illegal in these here parts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:22:51pm

re: #350 Amory Blaine

Pedantry is illegal in these here parts.

Pedantry R Us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:23:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:26:02pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

About par for the course - a score Trump has probably never shot, but frequently claimed.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:28:26pm

re: #346 gocart mozart

That was fascinating. Thanks!

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:30:21pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

They have no plan because they never had an intent to come up with a plan. Much like dealing with a disease, they see more money in helping you “live with it” (insurance) than actually curing it (single-payer).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:32:25pm

uhhhh

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:36:06pm

re: #333 Targetpractice

Personally, my favorite is about how he went voluntarily to give a statement and was complimented as being “forthcoming.” Since the documents are (IIRC) under seal, we have no fucking clue just what he said to the cops. But given his history, I’m sure it was to put as much distance between himself and his “friend” as possible.

And yet he told George Stephanopolous, just a couple of weeks ago, that he would never call the FBI about anything illegal he’d be offered, that he had NEVER IN HIS LIFE CALLED THE FBI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:40:04pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:40:09pm

Remember these halcyon days? Good times.

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:41:47pm
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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:43:39pm

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It is a waste of time and energy to argue with, let alone try to convert, Trump supporters. They do not care how stupid, inept or venal he is. He is delivering the goods for them: Tax cuts and gutted regulation for fatcats, charter schools and access to the public trough for pulpit pimps and their superstitious dupes, white supremacy for goobers.
Trying to persuade them as though they were normally ethical and well-intentioned people will only legitimize their scam. Piss on them.
The only way to win is to get out the vote, new voters will vote Democrat.

…and how stupid inept or venal they are….

Treat them as the crackpots they are

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:44:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:46:08pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“It was like that when I found it!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:46:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:49:40pm
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:49:56pm

re: #360 plansbandc

[Embedded content]

Cool. Now they will have to stop every drone in the US from doing it next year.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:57:29pm
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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:58:53pm

re: #323 Targetpractice

How desperate are Faux to sing Donny’s praises in light of recent bad news? “He’s got a new high job approval rating! 44%!!!”

He’s polling even with generic socialist
And is behind 6 point to Sanders a real democratic socialist

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 5:59:17pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do not understand the pictures at all. What about that is noteworthy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:02:07pm

re: #369 MsJ

I do not understand the pictures at all. What about that is noteworthy?

it’s spinach.

spinach always cooks down to nothing.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:04:02pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s spinach.

spinach always cooks down to nothing.

(Sigh) I needed you to explain that to me. ☹️

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:05:57pm

I come home and see this posted to my Facebook page.

lgbtqnation.com

A Christian school kindergarten teacher in the Chicago suburbs is facing charges related to sexual assault and child pornography after investigators say that she sent explicit material to minors for years.

Shannon Griffin is the wife of the pastor of Jordan Baptist Church and is a teacher at the associated Jordan Baptist school in Oak Lawn, a suburb of Chicago.

Why am I not surprised?

One student, Yhaneera Aparicio-Armas, said that she remembered Griffin for being really strict when it came to dress code violations.

“She would write me up and other girls and, like, how ironic that you’re telling us how to dress, us how to be modest, and be Christian women, and you turn around doing the exact opposite,” said Aparicio-Aramas.

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:06:36pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:08:13pm

From February 2017. Goes to show NeverTrumpers still are pretty shitty judges of character.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:09:33pm

re: #350 Amory Blaine

Pedantry is illegal in these here parts.

I wonder how many people I could get to sign a petition to make it a felony? Certainly all those who don’t know what it means, and a great many of those who do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:11:37pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:12:14pm

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder how many people I could get to sign a petition to make it a felony? Certainly all those who don’t know what it means, and a great many of those who do.

Pretty sure Mrs. FBW would sign the petition.

Hey, where do Pedants get their water?

From a well, actually.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:22:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:24:06pm

and then the murders began…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:28:26pm
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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:32:19pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

and then the murders began…

How many got dam movies started out this way?

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:33:28pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is one of the most gobsmackingly dumb fucking things I’ve heard that man-baby say, and I’ve heard him say some breathtakingly moronic things.

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:35:29pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:38:26pm
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DangerMan  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:42:10pm

Disqus:

L’Homme Armé
14 hours ago
In all honesty, I don’t care who he takes down if that person is guilty. If he takes down Bill Clinton, so be it. If he takes down Donald Trump, so be it. Hell, in the outrageously unlikely event that he takes down Elizabeth Warren, so be it. This is beyond politics, and anyone who was involved in this deserves to go to prison

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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:42:24pm

Spitting on the sidewalk will get Trump re-elected.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:45:27pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:46:22pm

Reminds me of this story from last December:
Wielding Rocks and Knives, Arizonans Attack Self-Driving Cars

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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:47:14pm

Today in gastronomic ornithology:

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:52:59pm

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A guy who got a “CD in his class at Texas A&M entitled “Meats”, and a fellow who, upon being appointed Secretary of Energy, announced that he was unaware that he also was in charge of America’s nuclear arsenal.

Fixed that for you!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:53:36pm

re: #388 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lime scooters were also a major target in the Texas Tech basketball riots back in April. The Red Rioters gathered a big pile of them and set it on fire.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:56:21pm

re: #389 BigPapa

Today in gastronomic ornithology:

[Embedded content]

Who would be that cruel to an innocent bird?

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Kilroy was here  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:57:14pm

re: #392 Joe Bacon 🌹

Who would be that cruel to an innocent bird?

Betting it is self inflicted.. Fell in while eating..

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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:57:33pm

I suggested John Frankenheimers “The Train”

The Train (2/10) Movie CLIP - Allied Bombing Raid (1964) HD

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 8, 2019 • 6:57:52pm

FB fun with friends. On Trump-
He’s not racist. He just has a particular dislike of Muslims, Blacks, the poor, Democrats, and illegal immigrants except for his latest wife.

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prairiefire  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:01:54pm

Disgusting! This louse has been loose for years.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:02:06pm

[Context: this is a thread about rescuing a toddler skunk that fell into a window well] Apparently, our rescue dog is part skunk. Whenever and wherever i take her to walk, she prefers to not walk a straight path along a road if there are forest edges or buildings to “perimeter sniff.” It’s such a pain in the ass. But she is so sweet. I wouldn’t care if it weren’t for the pain in my hips from being jerked when she lunges at something or the pain in my hand from the Freedom Halter leash that stresses my forefinger joint.*

*Lots of people swear by these halters and it was recommended by our trainer. And it works! Our dog was a much worse lunger on a single-attachment leash, but she still lunges at other dogs (I have times and places figured to minimize contact), and it places stress on that finger joint. Back to school for her? I wish. But it’s not in the budget right now.

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Cheechako  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:11:33pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

As my being a Professional Forester for over 50 years, I can truly certify that trump is as dumb as a stump.

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Archangelus  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:17:28pm

re: #381 BigPapa

How many got dam movies started out this way?

Don’t forget TV shows…

The X Files S01EP08 Ice 片頭

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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:21:27pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clean the stovetop? It’s so clean you could eat off of it.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:21:54pm

re: #393 Kilroy was here

Betting it is self inflicted.. Fell in while eating..

Into what…a field of saffron? 😁

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:27:45pm

We are so fucked.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:29:54pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump couldn’t give a you know what. He does whatever the hell he wants to do and so far he keeps falling upwards. Brazen as hell.

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:32:08pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:33:30pm

My favorite worm movie, Brain Damage

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:36:07pm

Daily Fail and grain of salt and all…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:39:21pm

re: #394 gocart mozart

I love “The Train” My sister and I went to see it several times when it initially played. Lancaster was great in it!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:52:07pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:31:09pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

So is Jeffrey Epstein still singing Thank Heaven For Little Girls?

Right up until they got to the safe.


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