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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:51:49am

Got CL’d downstairs:

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is nothing wrong with attending evening classes, expanding one’s qualifications, etc., especially when you are young, but one should not be punished with poverty for not doing it.

People also have families to raise on those evenings…

Not too mention working non-stop WITHOUT breaks will destroy your productivity and make you a tired, aggravated, miserable, mistake prone person.

That’s why it’s called work-life BALANCE.

I’ve been working on creating a board game in my spare time. Some nights what I do, is I come home from work, eat dinner, spend a few hours working on the game and then watch TV or play video games for awhile before I go to bed.

Some nights I put some extra time in on the game. Some nights none at all.

There is more to life than fucking working yourself to death. This is so unique to American culture. Other countries have rest periods mandated BY LAW. Here, there are some states where an employer doesn’t even have to give you ANY BREAKS AT ALL if they don’t want to.

We’re human beings, not fucking slaves. We deserve down time.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:54:54am

reposted from downstairs:

a house disappeared on my road (there aint a lot to start with)

i’ve been at my desk all day - havent looked out the window

i just do and there’s a pile of rubble where a house used to be

across and 2 lots down - not even 400 feet from here

they razed it and half has already been carted away

that’s what all the noise was earlier
these news cycles sure are mesmerizing

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:58:12am

also from downstairs
is everything just a thing or are some things read into way too much?
i dont know if im getting too nuanced or what
and i only have this bit of the quote to work with

my take is buttigieg was referring to justices who think for themselves, like kennedy

not necessarily about his judicial philosophy or the decisions he made
(then again there’s a house missing on my road, it was carted past my window and i didnt even know it)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:01:11am

She’s good at this.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:01:40am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:02:21am
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:03:05am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Got CL’d downstairs:

Not too mention working non-stop WITHOUT breaks will destroy your productivity and make you a tired, aggravated, miserable person.

That’s why it’s called work-life BALANCE.

I’ve been working on creating a board game in my spare time. Some nights what I do, is I come home from work, eat dinner, spend a few hours working on the game and then watch TV or play video games for awhile before I go to bed.

Some nights I put some extra time in on the game. Some nights none at all.

There is more to life than fucking working yourself to death. This is so unique to American culture. Other countries have rest periods mandated BY LAW. Here, there are some states where an employer doesn’t even have to give you ANY BREAKS AT ALL if they don’t want to.

We’re human being, not fucking slaves. We deserve down time.

According to Alex, if you’re young (which I guess is no older than mid-30s), then you’re not supposed to have a work/life balance. You’re supposed to be working 24/7, nose constantly to the grindstone, so that you can “relax” in later life on all the money you made when you were young and fresh. And hey, maybe that worked out for him and he hit it big early enough in his life that he feels secure going forward and can “relax” all he wants. Or he could be living under the delusion that his lifestyle is sustainable and end up out on his ass by the time he’s 40, stuck back at the bottom the ladder and hoping he can get back to where he was he hits retirement.

Meanwhile, in the real world, tens of millions of Americans who followed Alex’s advice early if life ended up watching their financial security flushed down the toilet in the Great Recession when those jobs they killed themselves in early life to earn disappeared and left them cashing in on what few assets they had (homes, vehicles, 401Ks, etc) just to stay afloat. And an entire generation (Millenials) spent those years when Alex thinks they should be killing themselves to make all their money either jobless or working multiple minimum wage jobs just to avoid becoming homeless. So Alex can fuck right the fuck off with that “Jeff Bezos doesn’t owe you anything” shit because Jeff happily exploited my generation’s desperation to make his money.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:06:06am

more from below

The infamous 1973 DOJ rules apply only to the office of the President and not to any other government official.

from electoral-vote.com this AM

The argument that Trump cannot even be investigated has already been rejected by one federal judge (Victor Marrero), and it’s obviously about to be rejected again [Judge Denny Chin]. Marrero also wrote that the Justice Dept. policy that the President and his lawyers are relying on to keep him safe had no basis in law. If Team Trump is not careful, a judge is going to go further and try to strike down that policy. Or, someone who is not bound by Justice Dept. rules (say, New York AG Letitia James) is going to decide that she doesn’t want to wait anymore, and is going to file criminal charges against Trump. And even if neither of these things come to pass, the President clearly acts recklessly due to his claimed above-the-law status. That’s well and good, but he’s setting himself up for quite a fall when his presidency, and with it any claim for that special status, comes to an end.

lots of chinks in that armor (can i still say that?)

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:06:36am

re: #6 Charles Johnson


Social aspects of cult-like behavior

Isolation
Minimizing contact of church members with those outside the group. This facilitates a further control over the thinking and practices of the members by the leadership.
Group Think
The group’s coherence is maintained by the observance to policies handed down from those in authority.
There is an internal enforcement of policies by members who reward “proper” behavior, and those who perform properly are rewarded with further inclusion and acceptance by the group.
Cognitive Dissonance
Avoidance of critical thinking and/or maintaining logically impossible beliefs and/or beliefs that are inconsistent with other beliefs held by the group.
Avoidance of and/or denial of any facts that might contradict the group’s belief system.

carm.org

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:08:34am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

if the papers were smart they’d keep sending them gratis

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:09:18am

re: #10 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

Aren’t a lot of these free online subscriptions?

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:09:21am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

She’s good at this.

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And she’s exactly right, House Republicans are demanding these depositions be done as hearings “out in the open” because that’s what the White House wants. And the White House wants that because they can’t keep their lies straight without knowing what the witnesses are telling Congress.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:09:31am

Even the announcement he’s withdrawing was met with… “he was in the race?!”

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:10:01am

Big Littefingered Brother says don’t read WaPo online!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:13:48am

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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:14:41am

re: #10 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

I would keep sending them gratis. A lot of agencies use national newspapers to keep track of events that could impact their agencies. Besides a lot of them are digital, so there’s no mailing to stop anyway. Once again horse and buggy thinking.

Also, I wonder how many of these are multi-year subscriptions anyway? An agency would like to keep things going without interruption, and paying say for a decade does just that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:15:18am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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I’m so old, I remember when the media lost their collective minds over Obama opining that Faux wasn’t a legitimate news network.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:15:49am

re: #7 Targetpractice

I started working right out of college at 25. I worked odd jobs, I worked part time jobs, I worked full time jobs with shitty hours. I even worked overnights for awhile. Even in my early 30s though I had a stable job I routinely did not go into until 3 PM and did not come home until after midnight. You can probably guess how thrilled my wife was about this.

I lost track of all the birthdays, dinners, parties, church events, weddings and so on that I missed because I was stuck at work.

Just last year I FINALLY landed a good job with decent pay, good benefits and normal working hours. I’m 38 now. So as you can see, I’ve just reached the point where I actually get to have a real work/life balance. I have little desire to go back to working until midnight (though I would if it ever became absolutely necessary).

The problem with mentalities like that guys is it bleeds on to employers who start expecting WAY TOO MUCH from their employees and don’t hesitate to hand out the pink slips to anyone they think isn’t busting their ass hard enough. I don’t want to be made to feel like I am member of a cult while I’m at work but sometimes that’s the level of loyalty companies expect, while reciprocating absolutely NONE of the same.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:16:06am

re: #7 Targetpractice

According to Alex, if you’re young (which I guess is no older than mid-30s), then you’re not supposed to have a work/life balance. You’re supposed to be working 24/7, nose constantly to the grindstone, so that you can “relax” in later life on all the money you made when you were young and fresh. And hey, maybe that worked out for him and he hit it big early enough in his life that he feels secure going forward and can “relax” all he wants. Or he could be living under the delusion that his lifestyle is sustainable and end up out on his ass by the time he’s 40, stuck back at the bottom the ladder and hoping he can get back to where he was he hits retirement.

Meanwhile, in the real world, tens of millions of Americans who followed Alex’s advice early if life ended up watching their financial security flushed down the toilet in the Great Recession when those jobs they killed themselves in early life to earn disappeared and left them cashing in on what few assets they had (homes, vehicles, 401Ks, etc) just to stay afloat. And an entire generation (Millenials) spent those years when Alex thinks they should be killing themselves to make all their money either jobless or working multiple minimum wage jobs just to avoid becoming homeless. So Alex can fuck right the fuck off with that “Jeff Bezos doesn’t owe you anything” shit because Jeff happily exploited my generation’s desperation to make his money.

imo ‘hitting it big’ is just winning the job/career lottery
and the odds are similar

for most people a job or career path is not particularly steep
and there are pitfall traps, curve balls, and setbacks all along the way

harder even if you had no assistance from family etc at the start

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:16:51am

re: #8 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

more from below

from electoral-vote.com this AM

lots of chinks in that armor (can i still say that?)

IANAL — so if the President cannot be investigated or prosecuted for illegal activities, what happens if they order someone to commit a crime? That person can still be prosecuted, right? Of course, the President can pardon them for illegal activity and can certainly fire them if they refused to engage in such activity. Barr auditioned for his post by claiming the President (R only, of course) is an absolute monarch who is above the law. I would not put it past the current SC to endorse this interpretation of the Constitution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:16:59am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Not too mention working non-stop WITHOUT breaks will destroy your productivity and make you a tired, aggravated, miserable, mistake prone person.

That’s why it’s called work-life BALANCE.

And do not forget how far a lot of Americans have to commute every day…

Calvinism also tells us that unless we are working hard or praying, then we are sinning or at least considering how to

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:17:39am

re: #12 Targetpractice

And she’s exactly right, House Republicans are demanding these depositions be done as hearings “out in the open” because that’s what the White House wants. And the White House wants that because they can’t keep their lies straight without knowing what the witnesses are telling Congress.

so far the dems have been really good at not falling for anything that anybody else wants or suggests

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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:18:58am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

A couple of things to consider. What about jobs that are very strenuous, like bricklaying or welding? Why can’t a welder have some time off to rest without being hectored into some multiple job scheme? And the jobs and a half like firefighting, medical work, or security? Do you want those people too tired to do their job properly? And of course a lot of 20 and thirty year olds have kids. We do want a next generation, and good people require investment in them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:19:49am

re: #23 CarolJ

A couple of things to consider. What about jobs that are very strenuous, like bricklaying or welding? Why can’t a welder have some time off to rest without being hectored into some multiple job scheme? And the jobs and a half like firefighting, medical work, or security? Do you want those people too tired to do their job properly? And of course a lot of 20 and thirty year olds have kids. We do want a next generation, and good people require investment in them.

Just work real hard and pray.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:21:40am

re: #22 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

so far the dems have been really good at not falling for anything that anybody else wants or suggests

Of course, can not the current GOP members of the committees pass the information on to the WH so that stories can be coordinated or people threatened with job termination for testifying? I wouldn’t trust a single Republican to respect any oath to keep silent about testimony. They clearly ignore their oath of office so why would this be any different?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:23:27am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just work real hard and pray play.

;-)

imo work is supposed to be the thing you do to earn money to do the things you want

because very few people actually do work they love
(and would rather do it than any other thing)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:24:41am

Aunt Maxine gives him the Look Of Death!

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:24:47am

What really gets me about asshats like Alex is that his “advice” is why my generation is getting screamed at for being the cause of the “downfall of America.” That we’re not rushing out to have those nuclear families with stay-at-home wives and 2 kids whose constant need for “new” everything is supposed to drive the economy. Doesn’t seem like a day goes by without my encountering some op-ed or blog post about how America’s “moral fiber” is in danger because “kids these days” are putting off marriage and families to pursue careers or “have fun.” Particularly when these same voices spent my formative years yelling at me that I needed to wait until I was “financially secure” before I even thought of bringing kids into the world, because otherwise I was dooming them and myself to immorality and poverty.

Beginning to get an idea of why my generation is so fucked up?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:25:25am

re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, can not the current GOP members of the committees pass the information on to the WH so that stories can be coordinated or people threatened with job termination for testifying? I wouldn’t trust a single Republican to respect any oath to keep silent about testimony. They clearly ignore their oath of office so why would this be any different?

im sure the committee chairs (at least) recognized this from the get go
im not sure how they reined it in and this hasnt happened yet (if it hasnt)

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:26:11am

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aunt Maxine gives him the Look Of Death!

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Careful, Mark, she’s killed before. Mike Tracey never saw her coming.

//

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:26:31am

re: #28 Targetpractice

What really gets me about asshats like Alex is that his “advice” is why my generation is getting screamed at for being the cause of the “downfall of America.” That we’re not rushing out to have those nuclear families with stay-at-home wives and 2 kids whose constant need for “new” everything is supposed to drive the economy. Doesn’t seem like a day goes by without my encountering some op-ed or blog post about how America’s “moral fiber” is in danger because “kids these days” are putting off marriage and families to pursue careers or “have fun.” Particularly when these same voices spent my formative years yelling at me that I needed to wait until I was “financially secure” before I even thought of bringing kids into the world, because otherwise I was dooming them and myself to immorality and poverty.

Beginning to get an idea of why my generation is so fucked up?

you kids and your music…

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:27:26am

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s presidential campaign says its headquarters in Manchester, New Hampshire, was broken into, along with other offices in the same building.

Andrew Taverrite, Warren’s New Hampshire communications director, says in a statement that the break-in occurred Wednesday night and “we have no reason to believe this was targeted to the campaign or is anything further than a regular break-in.”

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:27:35am

re: #31 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

you kids and your music…

Get off my lawn!!

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:28:30am

re: #32 lawhawk

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

Maybe it was wingnut idiots who broke into the wrong offices on the first couple of tries…

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:28:56am

re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, can not the current GOP members of the committees pass the information on to the WH so that stories can be coordinated or people threatened with job termination for testifying? I wouldn’t trust a single Republican to respect any oath to keep silent about testimony. They clearly ignore their oath of office so why would this be any different?

This. The GOP’s stunt yesterday was totally unnecessary from the point of coordinating their lies, since that is certainly already being done via the Republicans on these committees.

IMO it’s a combination of:

1) A power play, just to make democrats submit to how Republicans want things to be. Trump is all about shit like that.

2) If Republicans were to get their way on this, they would be able to turn the impeachment proceedings into a public circus, which would reduce the credibility of any resulting articles of impeachment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:29:32am

Interestingly enough, I’m 38 as I said. That puts me just outside the range for a millennial. I don’t consider myself old but I am starting to see even now that MY generation is a little better off than the one coming in behind us.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:29:50am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe it was wingnut idiots who broke into the wrong offices on the first couple of tries…

Stupid watergate, taken literally?

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:30:42am

re: #35 EPR-radar

It was witness intimidation, plus a show to let Trump know that they have his back/support/fealty.

Treasonweasels have to stick together.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:33:14am

The WSJ has some excellent journalists, but their opinion section?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:35:19am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe it was wingnut idiots who broke into the wrong offices on the first couple of tries…

and therefore should be allowed to get away with it?

“it took us four tries. give us a break!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:35:44am

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The WSJ has some excellent journalists, but their opinion section?

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WSJ is a Murdoch rag. This is on brand.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:37:23am

re: #35 EPR-radar

This. The GOP’s stunt yesterday was totally unnecessary from the point of coordinating their lies, since that can already be done via the Republicans on these committees.

IMO it’s a combination of:

1) A power play, just to make democrats submit to how Republicans want things to be. Trump is all about shit like that.

2) If Republicans were to get their way on this, they would be able to turn the impeachment proceedings into a public circus, which would reduce the credibility of any resulting articles of impeachment.

#2 is really the reason why they’re so pissed at this point, that these depositions being conducted away from the public is robbing them of all opportunities to make daddy proud of them for covering for his ass. Dems who are on the committees have told the press that their Repub colleagues simply show up to either ask a few dumb questions or make some insane statement, then leave the room to bitch to the media sitting outside that there’s no “there there” and there needs to be “transparency” in the process. This has led to situations like coming out of the sealed room to find out that Donny has made a new insane statement or (as with Taylor’s testimony) insisting that Taylor didn’t see any quid pro quo while the public was reading Taylor’s opening statement saying the exact opposite.

In other words, they’re finding out just how unfun it is to be the minority party operating under the very rules they put in place to strip power from the minority party.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:37:32am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

WSJ is a Murdoch rag. This is on brand.

Indeed. Trump/Pence 2020: Too Stupid to Commit Crimes!

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:37:47am

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The WSJ has some excellent journalists, but their opinion section?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:39:37am

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Criminal incompetence is not disqualifying for a president and apparently doesn’t stain the office
(Lying about sex is and does)

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:42:34am

re: #42 Targetpractice

#2 is really the reason why they’re so pissed at this point, that these depositions being conducted away from the public is robbing them of all opportunities to make daddy proud of them for covering for his ass. Dems who are on the committees have told the press that their Repub colleagues simply show up to either ask a few dumb questions or make some insane statement, then leave the room to bitch to the media sitting outside that there’s no “there there” and there needs to be “transparency” in the process. This has led to situations like coming out of the sealed room to find out that Donny has made a new insane statement or (as with Taylor’s testimony) insisting that Taylor didn’t see any quid pro quo while the public was reading Taylor’s opening statement saying the exact opposite.

In other words, they’re finding out just how unfun it is to be the minority party operating under the very rules they put in place to strip power from the minority party.

I would just add to your last paragraph…unfun….when you’re left to defend the obviously indefensible.

They know they are mostly powerless in this and they know the evidence is all true.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:42:50am

re: #27 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aunt Maxine gives him the Look Of Death!

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That photo just triggered Michael Tracey’s PTSD.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:43:08am

re: #43 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Indeed. Trump/Pence 2020: Too Stupid to Commitcomplete Crimes!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:46:55am

very true

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:47:35am

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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very true

It is in our house

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Dread Pirate  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:48:23am

Take THAT, Erdogan.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:50:15am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And do not forget how far a lot of Americans have to commute every day…

Calvinism also tells us that unless we are working hard or praying, then we are sinning or at least considering how to

I don’t pray, so that leaves more time for sinning and considering for me.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:50:36am

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The WSJ has some excellent journalists, but their opinion section?

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What is making this whole mess so unique is that it doesn’t play to the usual GOP scandal handbook. Normally this would be the defense of last resort, arguing that a crime didn’t “really” happen because the desired result never materialized. Normally they start with insisting that “nothing happened,” then move on to blaming it all on “overzealous staffers,” then they try to pin it on a fall guy, before finally starting to split hairs over what is and isn’t a crime. The problem is Donny obviated most of that by admitting aloud that it happened, that he was responsible, and he did it against the advice of others in his admin.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:51:01am

Buttigieg is losing me.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:52:10am

re: #43 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Indeed. Trump/Pence 2020: Too Stupid to Commit Crimes!

I’m so stealing that for the bumper sticker generator. :-)

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:54:12am

re: #26 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

;-)

imo work is supposed to be the thing you do to earn money to do the things you want

because very few people actually do work they love
(and would rather do it than any other thing)

A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.

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sagehen  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:54:41am

re: #32 lawhawk

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

(nevertheless, they’ll want to have the premises swept for bugs…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:55:32am

now we know the reason behind storming of the SCIF

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:56:02am

...

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:56:28am

re: #55 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I’m so stealing that for the bumper sticker generator. :-)

Go for it!

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:57:04am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Toast.

Judicial philosophy is going to be important for any candidate for the WH, and saying you want more Kennedy-type nominees is worrisome, especially given the way he left the Bench.

No. A good answer to this question is (and not inclusive):

I want nominees who are intent on preserving and protecting the civil and voting rights of all Americans and that imposing religious views on other Americans through government action is prohibited by the 1A. The court has misread the 2A in a way that originalists and strict constructionists hate to have attention brought to bear. The plain language requires regulation of firearms. While I wouldn’t go so far as to say it is not an individual right, the states and federal government have a right to strictly regulate and administer gun laws across all states because the state with the most lax gun laws will become a destination for straw sales and those guns travel via interstate commerce to be used in crimes (including mass shootings) elsewhere.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:57:49am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe Forrest Gump called the police last night while they were breaking in.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:58:02am

Corrected version.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:58:16am
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:58:50am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Buttigieg is losing me.

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Kennedy was a “swing vote” for the simple reason that Kennedy’s only principle was that the law should comport to the personal views of one man: Anthony Kennedy. Which was why it came as such a surprise when he voted with the liberal majority on Obergefell, as he’d twisted himself into a pretzel time and again to rule against LBGTQ rights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:58:51am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:01:36pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Kennedy was a “swing vote” for the simple reason that Kennedy’s only principle was that the law should comport to the personal views of one man: Anthony Kennedy. Which was why it came as such a surprise when he voted with the liberal majority on Obergefell, as he’d twisted himself into a pretzel time and again to rule against LBGTQ rights.

Not really; he voted that criminalizing sodomy was unconstitutional. I was expecting him to vote the way he did.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:02:24pm

re: #62 lawhawk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:02:29pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Motherfucker.

Well, we all pretty much saw this coming didn’t we?

Perhaps we should consider term limits on Judges?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:02:48pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:03:06pm

re: #69 lawhawk

I like some of what Buttigieg has said and done but I find him too inconsistent and too inexperienced to give much credence to.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:03:40pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

HILLARY’S SECRET ILLEGAL SERVER!!!1!!!11!!!

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Dread Pirate  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:05:39pm

Private email? Nobody would be silly enough to try that after Hillary.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:07:33pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

HER SERVER!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:08:08pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

WSJ is a Murdoch rag. This is on brand.

WSJ editorial page was like this before Murdoch; it’s been worthless trash since I first read it during the 1980’s. The question is whether their articles have declined in quality since Murdoch.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:08:47pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And once again, there’s nothing we can apparently do about it.

He’s there for life with no recourse, to help reshape the country as Trump judges see fit.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:10:12pm

re: #74 Dread Pirate

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And why did those rules go into effect? Because the House Repubs had failed repeatedly to get anywhere with BENGHAZI!!!! because the House Dems could block subpoenas or even subpoena their own witnesses to undercut the Repub talking points in real time.

Under those rules, Trey “Gowdy Doody” Gowdy ran 104 depositions in secrecy and even had Darrel “Carjack” Issa kicked out of the room once for not sitting on the relevant select committee. And when did Gowdy suddenly decide that closed depositions were the way to go? After Hillary sat on live TV for 11 hours and left the room without a hair out of place while he had to appear before the press covered in flop sweat and muttering about “questions that need answers.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:10:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:11:21pm

Noted cartoonist and raving bigot Jack Chick died and went to hell 3 years ago yesterday. I wrote this at the time (emphasis added):

I see that the old hate-monger Jack Chick has finally departed this mortal coil.

His focus was primarily religious but Chick was also one of the creators of modern conspiracy culture, helping to popularize the idea that vast, intricate, and utterly evil conspiracies could exist right under our noses for centuries on end.
The John Birch Society worked the political end, while Chick worked the religious and social angle.
The effect of this should not be discounted. Many millions of people; most of the population in fact; were exposed to Chick cartoons at one time or another. The conspiracist pattern was imprinted on millions of minds, even among the great majority who rejected Chick’s specific theology. I hear echos of Jack Chick in the ravings of Alex Jones, the Moon landing deniers, Holocaust deniers, and Flat Earthers. I also hear it more and more in mainstream politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:11:37pm

Alice is correct

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:14:47pm
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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:15:56pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dram shop law violation… ouch

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:16:15pm

After much thought, I decided that Trump is actually part of the Pat Buchanan wing of the Republican party. The only area where he may diverge from racist Pat is in his daily violation of the emoluments clause. But other than that, his philosophy seems totally in tune the old bigot. So I googled him and discovered that Politico made the same point.

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DesertDenizen  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:16:33pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Noted cartoonist and raving bigot Jack Chick died and went to hell 3 years ago yesterday. I wrote this at the time (emphasis added):

Funny, I just saw my first Chick Tract in years last week. I hate their existence and the harm they assuredly cause, but I’ll be damned if many of them aren’t epically funny (unintentionally, of course).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:17:05pm

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

WSJ editorial page was like this before Murdoch; it’s been worthless trash since I first read it during the 1980’s. The question is whether their articles have declined in quality since Murdoch.

They have broken some of the big stories in the Ukraine scandal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:17:07pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:18:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:20:12pm

local update on tampon taxes discussed yesterday:

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:23:52pm

It’s amazing how many people refuse to believe that either Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton might have had some kind of actual bias against them. All the while assured that there was scads of bias for them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:23:53pm
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Jay C  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:24:13pm

BTW, in case anyone has been wondering what was up with the investigation regarding those 39 bodies found in that shipping container in the UK: it seems to be developing into a “normal” immigrant-trafficking case: (via BBC):

Essex lorry deaths: 39 found dead were Chinese nationals

The trailer was shipped from Zeebrugge, in Belgium to Grays, on the Thames: they’re thinking that this was done to avoid too-close inspection on the more-heavily-traveled routes: the “Bulgarian” connection turned out to be only that the trailer was registered to a Bulgarian company owned by an “Irish citizen” (the marvels of pan-European integration).

They still have no idea whether the rig driver (N. Irish) was part of the scam, or just an innocent poor schmuck doing a job. Detail will be forthcoming shortly, no doubt

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:25:16pm

re: #9 jaunte

Don’t quote those guys, they think anyone who isn’t their kind of fundamentalist Protestant is in a cult. Instead, go with Steven Hassan’s BITE mode, which can be applied to politics as well as religions, multi-level marketing scams, and so on.

freedomofmind.com

Hassan has a new book out called “The Cult of Trump.”

amazon.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:26:45pm

Clinton Impeachment manager whines that impeachment is unfair.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:39:06pm

re: #92 Jay C

Devastatingly sad. Those poor people.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:39:59pm

re: #94 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Related:

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dirkdigglerjr  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:40:55pm

re: #86 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The WSJ news side also was one of the first, if not the first, to delve into the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:43:50pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Warren’s campaign is playing down the break-in as other businesses in the building were also broken into…

Someone broke into Warren’s campaign HQ.

No word on what, if anything, was taken.

Yeah, nothing other than this is stupid-Watergate.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:51:37pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Haw Haw”
“Wait til Light-Bulb-Headed-Man asks if your name is in the Book Of Life!”

But seriously, “Doom Town”. Homoeroticism.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:54:45pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

And why did those rules go into effect? Because the House Repubs had failed repeatedly to get anywhere with BENGHAZI!!!! because the House Dems could block subpoenas or even subpoena their own witnesses to undercut the Repub talking points in real time.

Under those rules, Trey “Gowdy Doody” Gowdy ran 104 depositions in secrecy and even had Darrel “Carjack” Issa kicked out of the room once for not sitting on the relevant select committee. And when did Gowdy suddenly decide that closed depositions were the way to go? After Hillary sat on live TV for 11 hours and left the room without a hair out of place while he had to appear before the press covered in flop sweat and muttering about “questions that need answers.”

Spot on remembering

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:55:42pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Noted cartoonist and raving bigot Jack Chick died and went to hell 3 years ago yesterday. I wrote this at the time (emphasis added):

Love those Chick parody sites!

monsterwax.com

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:57:54pm

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

WSJ editorial page was like this before Murdoch; it’s been worthless trash since I first read it during the 1980’s. The question is whether their articles have declined in quality since Murdoch.

I’m listening to a book, “Billion Dollar Whale,” about a guy named Jho Low who was behind the scam that was the 1Malaysia Development Berhad or 1MDB sovereign wealth fund. (The scam involved siphoning off billions from the fund.) The writers are two Wall Street Journal journalists. And they’re *harsh* on compliance regimes across the board, which basically *failed*. The book itself is good, the writers explain everything well and they move smoothly between Low’s penchant for partying in extreme excess, cozying up to Hollywood elites and the more arcane money movements Low engaged in to cover his tracks. They put things together better than I’ve seen in any other source about the scandal. This is one of those books you really need to listen to, so that you don’t skip over the details, because the devil really is in the details here.

Another book written by two Wall Street Journal journalists in the late 1990s that I remember and liked a lot (but is now out of print) is called “The Cult at the End of the World” and was about Aum Shinrikyo. It was probably the best thing I’d seen in English at the time, was very detailed and gave great insight not just into Aum, but how they managed to avoid scrutiny in Japan until it was too late. If the Aum cultists had been more on the ball, they could have killed thousands. Japan dodged a bullet.

I’ve seen good work by WSJ journalists, but man, the editorial page has been shit for years and years.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:01:18pm

Frito-Lay Changes Color Of Cheetos To Avoid Association With Trump

The popular snack Cheetos will look different starting tomorrow after Frito-Lay decided to change the color from its traditional bright orange.

“Cheetos are now fluorescent green, though with the same great cheesy taste you know and love.”

The move is being made in response to consumers associating the product with President Trump.

“People who love cheetos suddenly reported feeling sick after eating them, and we finally realized it’s because they reminded them who the leader of the country was.”

Focus testing suggested the new look was a vast improvement, with the product now being associated with aliens, radioactivity, and the Grinch instead of the current White House incumbent.

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:02:04pm

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:03:25pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I almost thought that was legit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:04:08pm

re: #104 mmmirele

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

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I’m certain Republicans would have been in favor of this policy during the Clinton impeachment…

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:05:28pm

re: #104 mmmirele

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

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Then Nancy could have impeached Obama, Reid clear him then we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:05:34pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Frito-Lay Changes Color Of Cheetos To Avoid Association With Trump

satire, right?
what an effin shame

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:05:38pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Frito-Lay Changes Color Of Cheetos To Avoid Association With Trump

Yeah, had to double check that the source was satire, and the joke is good.

re: #104 mmmirele

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

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This, however, is the wrong kind of joke. This is just terrible and just shows the mindset of just how many people are chomping at the bit to just declare Trump President-For-Life. They want the full monty of fascism.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:06:44pm

re: #104 mmmirele

then go to work on passing a constitutional amendment
easy peasy

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TedStriker  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:08:51pm

re: #86 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They have broken some of the big stories in the Ukraine scandal.

They, like the NYT, have good reporters doing good work, but their opinion board seems to be in Murdoch’s pocket

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:09:50pm

re: #104 mmmirele

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

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That’s a really absurd take. Somehow doubt if anyone suggested this was about Clinton twenty years ago that it would go over.

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TedStriker  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:10:31pm

re: #104 mmmirele

Uhm, speaking of the WSJ editorial page, did anyone see this? I mean, the ratio is spectacular, but the idiocy is out of this world!

re: #110 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

then go to work on passing a constitutional amendment
easy peasy

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:10:56pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Frito-Lay Changes Color Of Cheetos To Avoid Association With Trump

LoL. Not the Onion, but close enough

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KGxvi  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:13:18pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

Motherfucker.

Well, we all pretty much saw this coming didn’t we?

Perhaps we should consider term limits on Judges?

Judicial term limits are not really a good idea. You think the fuckery of McConnell following Scalia’s death was bad? Wait until he knows which seats at the bench will be coming up, it will be a whole new level of fuckery.

Congress is simply going to have to pay attention to what these judges are doing and if they end up routinely handing down arbitrary and capricious rulings, they need to impeach them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:15:21pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Judicial term limits are not really a good idea. You think the fuckery of McConnell following Scalia’s death was bad? Wait until he knows which seats at the bench will be coming up, it will be a whole new level of fuckery.

Congress is simply going to have to pay attention to what these judges are doing and if they end up routinely handing down arbitrary and capricious rulings, they need to impeach them.

Plus I think term limits would increase the partisanship of judicial nominations. The problem isn’t the system in itself. It’s that people like McConnell and Trump exists.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:15:26pm

re: #110 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

then go to work on passing a constitutional amendment
easy peasy

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Then the Democrats will run Bill Clinton for his 3rd term.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:16:33pm

re: #117 Dread Pirate

Then the Democrats will run Bill Clinton for his 3rd term.

That would be different.//

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:17:11pm

re: #117 Dread Pirate

Then the Democrats will run Bill Clinton for his 3rd term.

Or consider how this could be fucked with too.

Democrats move to impeach their own guy because he’s not moving sufficiently to the left.

They acquit him in the Senate.

Presto chango, and you’ve opened the door to the 3d term.

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KGxvi  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:18:39pm

re: #110 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

then go to work on passing a constitutional amendment
easy peasy

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I’m still sort of “meh” on presidential term limits. The times when a president has been able to actually seek a third term have been relatively limited. Eisenhower would have been 71. Reagan was even older.

Beyond that, the freedom of not having to run again frees them up to do a lot of shit that they probably wouldn’t be inclined to do if they had to face voters again.

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KGxvi  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:20:35pm

re: #119 lawhawk

Or consider how this could be fucked with too.

Democrats move to impeach their own guy because he’s not moving sufficiently to the left.

They acquit him in the Senate.

Presto chango, and you’ve opened the door to the 3d term.

While I believe Congress, historically, should have exercised it’s impeachment powers much more often than it has… this is, just no…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:20:44pm

re: #120 KGxvi

I’m still sort of “meh” on presidential term limits. The times when a president has been able to actually seek a third term have been relatively limited. Eisenhower would have been 71. Reagan was even older.

Beyond that, the freedom of not having to run again frees them up to do a lot of shit that they probably wouldn’t be inclined to do if they had to face voters again.

The thought of a Watchmen scenario with Nixon in the White House for five terms…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:22:20pm

re: #120 KGxvi

I’m still sort of “meh” on presidential term limits. The times when a president has been able to actually seek a third term have been relatively limited. Eisenhower would have been 71. Reagan was even older.

Beyond that, the freedom of not having to run again frees them up to do a lot of shit that they probably wouldn’t be inclined to do if they had to face voters again.

I contend that it was sheer jealousy over FDRs popularity. And honestly I can’t think of anyone who would have been able to do what FDR did from March 1941 to March 1945. Willkie was a great man, perhaps the best man the Republicans ran between TR and Ike but I don’t think he would have had FDRs leadership skills.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:23:57pm

Ari makes the case simple: Bribery
because it’s right there explicitly in the constitution
in the impeachment clause

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KGxvi  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:24:46pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon 🌹

The thought of a Watchmen scenario with Nixon in the White House for five terms…

Except Nixon didn’t even survive his second term in the real world.

More likely we would have seen Clinton in 2000 or Obama in 2016 (or as an outside possibility GW Bush in 2008).

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sagehen  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:25:17pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Related:

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Is it sad how thrilled I am to see an accurate headline?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:25:31pm

re: #125 KGxvi

Except Nixon didn’t even survive his second term in the real world.

More likely we would have seen Clinton in 2000 or Obama in 2016 (or as an outside possibility GW Bush in 2008).

Eh, I think the Great Recession of 2008 would have doomed Bush even if he could have run again.

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KGxvi  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:30:11pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Eh, I think the Great Recession of 2008 would have doomed Bush even if he could have run again.

Clinton probably beats GWB in 2000, anyway. 2004, Clinton is only 54 and maybe even runs again (depending on if 9/11 happened, and it probably does). Which is an interesting scenario.

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TedStriker  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:31:07pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon 🌹

The thought of a Watchmen scenario with Nixon in the White House for five terms…

Add to that the scenario in the new HBO Watchmen series: Nixon for five terms, then Robert Redford for seven terms to the (alternate) present day.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:31:44pm

It’s Not a Movement: It’s a Market driftglass

… Because to admit that they’re wrong — even a little bit — is to admit the possibility that everyone they have trusted for decades really has been a liar and a fraud. That they really have been played for chumps all along. That the Dirty Libtards may have been (gasp!) right about them all along.

And that revelation would destroy them, which is why it must-must-must be kept at bay at any cost. Which is why they hired Donald Trump. He’s not their “leader” — he’s just the most brazen pusher of the lies they need to believe. This is also why their ludicrous and ever-changing “talking points” don’t need to make any sense or follow any ideological consistency: they just need to be shouted long enough to keep Reality from crashing in on them for one more day. …

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:32:02pm

re: #129 TedStriker

Redford?

/Hail Hydra!

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garzooma  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:32:27pm

re: #125 KGxvi

Except Nixon didn’t even survive his second term in the real world.

IIRC, in Watchmen, Nixon has the Comedian to take out Woodward and Bernstein.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:32:57pm

re: #130 retired cynic

That reads more like a drug addict in search of one more fix to hold them over to the next one.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:34:27pm

re: #111 TedStriker

They, like the NYT, have good reporters doing good work, but their opinion board seems to be in Murdoch’s pocket

The Wall Street Journal has had good reporters doing good work for a long time. This is the newspaper of the US ruling class, and the ruling class has no use for fake news in its newspaper. I doubt even Murdoch will dare to meddle with that.

But the WSJ opinion pages have been raving wingnut central since long before Murdoch took over. The ruling class does like its fan fiction, after all.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:36:21pm

re: #133 lawhawk

That reads more like a drug addict in search of one more fix to hold them over to the next one.

Driftglass is very fond of that metaphor — e.g., that first perfect high of Reagan’s election etc. IMO it fits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:37:40pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

1) A power play, just to make democrats submit to how Republicans want things to be. Trump is all about shit like that.

2) If Republicans were to get their way on this, they would be able to turn the impeachment proceedings into a public circus, which would reduce the credibility of any resulting articles of impeachment.

They need to back up their talking points, that this is a Partisan Witch Hunt being undertaken by a Deep State Cabal, etc…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:38:09pm
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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:39:02pm

Hand-Sewn Portraits by Sheena Liam Capture Quiet Moments of Self Care This is Colossal

Klys would love this! I miss her presence here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:39:53pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Noted cartoonist and raving bigot Jack Chick died and went to hell 3 years ago yesterday. I wrote this at the time (emphasis added):

I used to collect them for the humorous potential, but at the time I did not consider what poison they were for some minds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:43:27pm

re: #101 Joe Bacon 🌹

Love those Chick parody sites!

monsterwax.com

I loved the one in the National Lampoon that warns you that you will be “darned to heck” if you do not find Jesus

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:43:54pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah how awful that the House follow the Constitution. Meanwhile Trump’s lawyers are arguing he could kill someone in public and not be held responsible. Trump isn’t a fucking victim no matter how hard Graham and Trump want him to be.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:44:09pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:45:46pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alternate Graham: “Everyone should be disturbed that the Democrats are following proper procedure regarding impeaching the President.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:46:07pm

re: #110 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

Any president who is impeached and acquitted should be permitted to serve a third term, writes William Mattox

They want us to associate Impeachment with partisan politics and not with investigating and prosecuting High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:48:09pm

re: #104 mmmirele

Like President Clinton? He was impeached and acquitted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:48:30pm

re: #145 Patricia Kayden

Like President Clinton? He was impeached and acquitted.

but he was a Democrat

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:51:55pm

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want us to associate Impeachment with partisan politics and not with investigating and prosecuting High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

^^^^^^^
This

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:55:18pm

Has Pelosi said anything about the SCIF nonsense yet?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:59:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:00:47pm

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

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She’s such a fraud.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:01:21pm

I lurk on my RWNJ Dad’s blog for proof of life.

Some idjit said CNN said that the yam is throwing out the first pitch at the WS.

I can’t find any sources, so most likely raving.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:01:35pm

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

It’s time for Perez to kick her out of the debates.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:02:09pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Has Pelosi said anything about the SCIF nonsense yet?

Not yet - but we’ll see what happens come the document dump window tomorrow.

At a minimum, anybody who illegally entered the SCIF should have their clearances revoked, as well as anybody who received any communications that occurred while in the SCIF.

Now comes the $64,000 question - why isn’t the SCIF in of itself a Faraday Cage?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:03:26pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

I lurk on my RWNJ Dad’s blog for proof of life.

Some idjit said CNN said that the yam is throwing out the first pitch at the WS.

I can’t find any sources, so most likely raving.

Haven’t heard anything about it here. He’s never attended a Nats game or shown any interest in them.

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DesertDenizen  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:04:06pm

re: #142 Joe Bacon 🌹

Shouldn’t the orange just be on his nose and lips?

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:06:14pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

I lurk on my RWNJ Dad’s blog for proof of life.

Some idjit said CNN said that the yam is throwing out the first pitch at the WS.

I can’t find any sources, so most likely raving.

He will never do that because if he threw a wild pitch, he couldn’t stand the mocking.

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DesertDenizen  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:07:41pm

re: #156 Belafon

But he’s too unselfaware that he might screw up and therefore WILL do it!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:08:50pm

re: #156 Belafon

He will never do that because if he threw a wild pitch, he couldn’t stand the mocking.

He only likes the Yankees because of $$$$. W Bush could actually talk baseball. Baseball is just another $$$$ to him.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:10:51pm
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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:11:44pm

re: #157 DesertDenizen

But he’s too unselfaware that he might screw up and therefore WILL do it!

I suspect he knows he can’t throw a baseball.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:12:51pm

re: #160 Belafon

I suspect he knows he can’t throw a baseball.

He or at least his advisers know he’d get booed too.

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aatharuv  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:13:07pm

On an unrelated topic*, it looks like the White House’s information security team has been gutted, and their duties transferred to other groups not required to keep records in compliance with the Presidential Security Act.

arstechnica.com

*Other than the general gutting of everything by the Trump regime.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:13:29pm

re: #159 Belafon

I never liked Napolitano much, but I will begrudgingly give him credit for seemingly having a healthy respect for the rule of law.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:14:00pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

I never liked Napolitano much, but I will begrudgingly give him credit for seemingly having a healthy respect for the rule of law.

It says a lot that he’s a voice of reason.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:14:12pm

re: #155 DesertDenizen

Shouldn’t the orange just be on his nose and lips?

Hell no!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:14:55pm

It looks like the Ukraine scandal is having an impact the Mueller Report didn’t. Trump’s approval is deeper underwater now than it has been since February 12.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:16:03pm

re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It looks like the Ukraine scandal is having an impact the Mueller Report didn’t. Trump’s approval is deeper underwater now than it has been since February 12.

I think Trump’s own actions combined with all this happening in his presidency are why.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:17:03pm

re: #157 DesertDenizen

But he’s too unselfaware that he might screw up and therefore WILL do it!

too much effort involved, he would insist on driving out to the mound on a golf cart…

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:17:46pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

I think Trump’s own actions combined with all this happening in his presidency are why.

Plus, this one is really easy to understand: The power of the presidency shouldn’t be used to threaten other countries to benefit the president.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:18:58pm

re: #169 Belafon

Plus, this one is really easy to understand: The power of the presidency shouldn’t be used to threaten other countries to benefit the president.

Yes. That too.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:20:26pm

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want us to associate Impeachment with partisan politics and not with investigating and prosecuting High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

this is why we should keep saying it’s the house that’s doing the investigating and the house that does the impeachment

not the ‘democrats’ or even the democrats in the house
it’s the entire house. even though some vote “no”

(i slip a lot like everyone else)

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:20:42pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Has Pelosi said anything about the SCIF nonsense yet?

im sure a lot
just not to us ;-)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:21:24pm

re: #153 Eric The Fruit Bat

Not yet - but we’ll see what happens come the document dump window tomorrow.

At a minimum, anybody who illegally entered the SCIF should have their clearances revoked, as well as anybody who received any communications that occurred while in the SCIF.

Now comes the $64,000 question - why isn’t the SCIF in of itself a Faraday Cage?

Not all SCIFs need to be built to that level of security. Hence the requirement to leave all electronics outside. One of the schools I attended when I was in the Navy was considered a SCIF with another RF shielded SCIF inside. If you didn’t have clearance to be in that building, you didn’t get past the lobby. Once in the building, you were limited to select areas that pertained to the course you were taking. Being caught outside those areas would get your ass tossed out of the school and potentially court martialed.

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BeachDem  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:21:45pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

I lurk on my RWNJ Dad’s blog for proof of life.

Some idjit said CNN said that the yam is throwing out the first pitch at the WS.

I can’t find any sources, so most likely raving.

Hope not, but if so, let’s hope his form has improved:

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:22:32pm

re: #160 Belafon

I suspect he knows he can’t throw a baseball.

jed bartlett practiced for it up in the residence.

took out a few table lamps

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BeachDem  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:24:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:26:42pm

re: #176 BeachDem

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I think Game 4 is Sunday so that’s wrong actually. Glad I’m not watching. My bad.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:27:38pm

re: #90 Citizen K

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It’s amazing how many people refuse to believe that either Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton might have had some kind of actual bias against them. All the while assured that there was scads of bias for them.

These same people also believe that the Clintons are guilty of numerous crimes for which no evidence exists outside the fever dreams of Sean Hannity & his cohorts, while also believing that Donald Trump is as innocent as the wind blown snow.

This is a mass delusion.

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Danack  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:28:04pm

re: #153 Eric The Fruit Bat

Now comes the $64,000 question - why isn’t the SCIF in of itself a Faraday Cage?

If nothing else, people who have secure devices could use them in a SCIF room, right?

Also, that room is probably planned to use as not a SCIF at other times.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:28:09pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:28:25pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I think Game 4 is Sunday so that’s wrong actually. Glad I’m not watching.

Game 3 Friday, 4 Saturday. 5 Sunday if necessary.

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TedStriker  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:29:27pm

re: #130 retired cynic

It’s Not a Movement: It’s a Market driftglass

re: #133 lawhawk

That reads more like a drug addict in search of one more fix to hold them over to the next one.

re: #135 EPR-radar

Driftglass is very fond of that metaphor — e.g., that first perfect high of Reagan’s election etc. IMO it fits.

Conservatives have been “chasing the dragon” for so long, because they’re always just around the corner from having enough control to remake the country in their twisted image, but, as with the drug version, there’s a downside here too, because they risk overplaying their hand and overreaching.

I hope, anyway.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:30:54pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Noted cartoonist and raving bigot Jack Chick died and went to hell 3 years ago yesterday. I wrote this at the time (emphasis added):

I read my first Jack Chick tract at the same time that I was reading Robert Crumb comix (in high school in the late 1960’s) and I honestly thought Jack Chick was a parody of Christianity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:31:05pm

re: #174 BeachDem

Hope not, but if so, let’s hope his form has improved:

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those are the same dance moves he used at an Epstein party

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:31:08pm

I love the song, and know I can’t get it out of my head…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:31:37pm

re: #181 i(m)p(each)sos

Game 3 Friday, 4 Saturday. 5 Sunday if necessary.

I think today is a travel day.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:32:13pm

My bad. Dunno why I thought Game 2 was last night.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:33:02pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

I lurk on my RWNJ Dad’s blog for proof of life.

Some idjit said CNN said that the yam is throwing out the first pitch at the WS.

I can’t find any sources, so most likely raving.

He’ll ride a golf cart out to the mound

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:33:29pm

re: #176 BeachDem

@Grace_Segers
I’ve been informed by people who know baseball that if the Nats sweep, there won’t be a Sunday game, thus rendering this moot.

Dog damn it
Only damn Trump could get me, a Mets fan, to root for a Nationals’ sweep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:35:11pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dog damn it
Only damn Trump could get me, a Mets fan, to root for a Nationals’ sweep.

Bitter Orioles fan here and ditto.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:36:10pm

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

too much effort involved, he would insist on driving out to the mound on a golf cart…

GMTA

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:38:23pm

re: #188 Eventual Carrion

He’ll ride a golf cart out to the mound

And Lindsay has to kiss his ass before he pitches…

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:39:13pm

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

These same people also believe that the Clintons are guilty of numerous crimes for which no evidence exists outside the fever dreams of Sean Hannity & his cohorts, while also believing that Donald Trump is as innocent as the wind blown snow.

This is a mass delusion.

…by having 100% unassailable trust and faith in whoever you choose as your ‘news’ source

if you only watch/listen to hannity, you trust him. so he can never be wrong.
and you dont hear or see anything else contradictory

here we are

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:41:52pm

re: #188 Eventual Carrion

He’ll ride a golf cart out to the mound

Not his golf cart

195
Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:42:47pm
196
KingKenrod  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:45:55pm

No way Trump shows up to a crowd he doesn’t control.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:47:05pm

re: #180 NO SMOCKING GUN!

MLB Umpire threatens to become terrorist if Trump is impeached.

They better terminate him.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:47:06pm

i wonder what he;s getting at

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lizardofid  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:47:06pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

My bad. Dunno why I thought Game 2 was last night.

I thought so too Happy, I dreamed the Stros scored a dozen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:47:11pm

re: #183 The Pie Overlord!

I read my first Jack Chick tract at the same time that I was reading Robert Crumb comix (in high school in the late 1960’s) and I honestly thought Jack Chick was a parody of Christianity.

This really isn’t that far from the truth.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:47:33pm

re: #174 BeachDem

Hope not, but if so, let’s hope his form has improved:

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Remember how wingnuts relentlessly mocked Obama “pitching stance” because they claimed it looked “sissy”? Good times.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:48:01pm

re: #199 lizardofid

I thought so too Happy, I dreamed the Stros scored a dozen.

I think my brother and I are the only two people in Virginia rooting for Houston lol.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:48:53pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

Remember how wingnuts relentlessly mocked Obama “pitching stance” because they claimed it looked “sissy”? Good times.

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Obama didn’t have the best first pitch I’ve ever seen but far from the worst. And he’s the best basketball player we’ve ever had as potus.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:52:12pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

My bad. Dunno why I thought Game 2 was last night.

Game two was last night. I’m sure the Astros’ are wishing it was a dream

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BeachDem  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:52:52pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Obama didn’t have the best first pitcher I’ve ever seen but far from the worst. And he’s the best basketball player we’ve ever had as potus.

Simone Biles for the win!!

Simone Biles’ EPIC first pitch before World Series Game 2

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:53:57pm

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Game two was last night. I’m sure the Astros’ are wishing it was a dream

Ah. I dunno why I thought there would be a day off in between games.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:54:30pm

Wife is making banana bread. Peeled bananas have been sitting on the kitchen counter all day. All downstairs smells banana-y.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:55:15pm

re: #207 Eventual Carrion

Wife is making banana bread. Peeled bananas have been sitting on the kitchen counter all day. All downstairs smells banana-y.

You got any go-karts around?

//

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:56:24pm

re: #207 Eventual Carrion

Wife is making banana bread. Peeled bananas have been sitting on the kitchen counter all day. All downstairs smells banana-y.

Spread out some chalk dust and floor-sweeping compound and you’ve got an elementary school hallway.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:59:12pm

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

You got any go-karts around?

//

They all split

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Charles Johnson  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:00:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:01:25pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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Kevin should talk to Mitch. He’s blocking plenty of House legislation.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:02:10pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Repetition is a core principle of propaganda. So all good Republicans will parrot the “Do-Nothing Democrats” line from now on.

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garzooma  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:02:46pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Kevin should talk to Mitch. He’s blocking plenty of House legislation.

Also, the House wouldn’t have to issue so many subpoenas if Trump didn’t commit so many crimes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:03:00pm

re: #214 garzooma

Also, the House wouldn’t have to issue so many subpoenas if Trump didn’t commit so many crimes.

Yep

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:05:21pm

re: #210 Eventual Carrion

They all split

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:07:57pm

re: #214 garzooma

Also, the House wouldn’t have to issue so many subpoenas if Trump didn’t commit so many crimes.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:34:55pm

BeachDem with the WIN

btw
I’m still laughing at

ARE YOU READY TO TUMBLE……….

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:43:41pm

re: #198 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

i wonder what he;s getting at

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He wrote a very long article for The Atlantic about Trump’s unfitness for the office; he did a lot of research into narcissism disorders as part of the process.


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