Armenian Maestro Tigran Hamasyan: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert

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The Tiny Desk is working from home for the foreseeable future. Introducing NPR Music’s Tiny Desk (home) concerts, bringing you performances from across the country and the world. It’s the same spirit — stripped-down sets, an intimate setting — just a different space.

Suraya Mohamed | November 11, 2020
Pianist Tigran Hamasyan settled down in his home country of Armenia during the pandemic, and took the opportunity to catch up on projects that have been lingering, unfinished, for years. For a touring musician, it’s one of the few benefits of the COVID-19 lockdown, having the time to get things done and engage with new work.

Tigran first wowed me in 2006. Earlier that year, he’d won the Thelonious Monk International Jazz Competition and his performance at the John F. Kennedy Center For The Performing Arts for NPR’s annual Jazz Piano Christmas program was truly memorable. I’ve been following him and his robust discography ever since.

The first performance in his Tiny Desk (home) concert, “Road Song,” features a melody Hamasyan wrote in 2008, but recorded with a quintet on his imaginative 2013 album, Shadow Theater. He frequently plays a solo version of it live, but had never played it alone in a studio until now. That’s followed by “Our Film,” from Hamasyan’s latest and most enterprising release, The Call Within. This performance mirrors the intensity and sentimentality of the album version, but here it’s more intimate and fanciful. The last tune, “A Fable,” is the title track of his 2011 solo album, which was inspired by 13th century Armenian writer Vardan Aygektsi.

SET LIST
“Road Song”
“Our Film”
“A Fable”

MUSICIANS
Tigran Hamasyan: piano

CREDITS
Video By: Elena Petrosyan
Audio By: Tigran Hamasyan

TINY DESK TEAM
Producer: Suraya Mohamed
Video Producer: Morgan Noelle Smith
Audio Mastering: Josh Rogosin
Associate Producer: Bobby Carter
Tiny Production Team: Bob Boilen, Kara Frame, Maia Stern
Executive Producer: Lauren Onkey
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

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484 comments
1
The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:24:24pm

Clearly Biden was Q all along.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:25:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:26:24pm

And this, kiddies, is why we vote by mail in the middle of a freaking pandemic:

Election Day voters at Vestavia Hills church may have been exposed to COVID-19, Jeffco says
al.com

(That is about the whitest, richest zipcode in Alabama.)

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:26:38pm

re: #1 The Ghost of a Flea

I thought John de Lancie was Q.
en.wikipedia.org

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:26:46pm

Also, I finally caved in and made home made mayonnaise.

Not bad if you add some hot sauce and pepper.

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Unabogie  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:30:42pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

And this, kiddies, is why we vote by mail in the middle of a freaking pandemic:

Election Day voters at Vestavia Hills church may have been exposed to COVID-19, Jeffco says
al.com

People should go to prison for intentional manslaughter over this.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:31:10pm

re: #2 makeitstop

So Graham and Grassley are allowing Joe to have the briefings that DT ignores.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:33:35pm

No dumbass, it means YOU STILL LOSE.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:34:57pm

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

No dumbass, it means YOU STILL LOSE.

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Do they not know that those votes haven’t even been counted yet…?

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:35:36pm

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

No dumbass, it means YOU STILL LOSE.

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Not counting votes = Important legal victory

Great job there Ted, go back to Canada

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:36:27pm

re: #10 b.d. (We Won!)

Not counting votes = Important legal victory

Great job there Ted, go back to Canada

Canada is not receiving visitors.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:36:27pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

Do they not know that those votes haven’t even been counted yet…?

I suspect Cruz does but he knows most people who read his Twitter feed don’t or are fine with spreading disinformation.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:37:15pm

re: #10 b.d. (We Won!)

Not counting votes = Important legal victory

Great job there Ted, go back to Canada

This is an example of the attitude that I hate. Winning is so important to them, remaining in power is so important to them, they don’t give a shit about the good of the country - they want to cut people off from voting, destroying the foundation of democracy, so that they can continue to rule as THEY please, and not as their constituents demand.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:37:55pm

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

No dumbass, it means YOU STILL LOSE.

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:40:08pm

re: #14 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s more like a Hi 0.05

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:41:28pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:41:51pm

re: #14 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Texans are certainly fascinated by Pennsylvania. Must be because the Cowboys blow.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:42:23pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Texans are certainly fascinated by Pennsylvania. Must be because the Cowboys blow.

LOL. We need more guys like Fetterman. Dude’s awesome.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:42:47pm
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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:43:10pm

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:44:20pm

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

I thought John de Lancie was Q.
en.wikipedia.org

Desmond Llewelyn.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:45:15pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:45:27pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:47:21pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Wow, SFTP. That’s something I haven’t seen for a dog’s age. I do distinctly remember feeling antiquated when some Indian contractors at my last job hacked in an FTP server to serve some documents in the application we were building. I asked them why they didn’t just serve them over HTTP like non-crazy people, and they looked at me like I had horns growing from my head. And now you know why I didn’t last long there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:49:51pm

re: #23 The Ghost of a Flea

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You know who one of the greatest political frauds of our era is, Ron Paul. Guy loved playing the I’m anti authoritarian bullshit to get the college kids to think he was something different than what he is and that’s a reactionary right wing racist who just happened to oppose the drug war.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:52:58pm

re: #24 thedopefishlives

Wow, SFTP. That’s something I haven’t seen for a dog’s age. I do distinctly remember feeling antiquated when some Indian contractors at my last job hacked in an FTP server to serve some documents in the application we were building. I asked them why they didn’t just serve them over HTTP like non-crazy people, and they looked at me like I had horns growing from my head. And now you know why I didn’t last long there.

I use BBEdit as my main IDE, to edit files directly on the server with SFTP. That’s how I noticed the problem, it suddenly started failing and I traced it back to that “tabs -4” command.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:54:24pm

re: #25 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You know who one of the greatest political frauds of our era is, Ron Paul. Guy loved playing the I’m anti authoritarian bullshit to get the college kids to think he was something different than what he is and that’s a reactionary right wing racist who just happened to oppose the drug war.

The whole Ron Paul anti-drug thing was a con to lure young white men into a white Supremacist cult. I know, I witnessed many college acquaintances fall for the con and are still part of the Trump cult.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:54:37pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:55:12pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

I use BBEdit as my main IDE, to edit files directly on the server with SFTP. That’s how I noticed the problem, it suddenly started failing and I traced it back to that “tabs -4” command.

Ah, that’s an interesting workflow. Makes sense why you’d run into issues, though. I find a lot of Unix tools have trouble with good error messaging. It can get pretty frustrating at times.

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:57:53pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Going to have to check that on FreeBSD when I get home tonight.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:58:05pm

re: #27 Florida Panhandler

The whole Ron Paul anti-drug thing was a con to lure young white men into a white Supremacist cult. I know, I witnessed many college acquaintances fall for the con and are still part of the Trump cult.

I’m not surprised. I remember long before David Duke embraced Trump, he embraced Ron Paul and despite my shared opposition to the drug war and the Bush Doctrine, I always thought Paul was a kook at the most generous interpretation but Pat Buchanan like. Trump too is an extension of Buchananism imo.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 5:59:05pm

re: #29 thedopefishlives

Ah, that’s an interesting workflow. Makes sense why you’d run into issues, though. I find a lot of Unix tools have trouble with good error messaging. It can get pretty frustrating at times.

So many were written for the person who wrote them.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:00:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:01:16pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:01:37pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:05:01pm

re: #32 Belafon

So many were written for the person who wrote them.

I’ve done this before, but at least when I can see that it’s something that might be useful to other people, I start actually talking to other people about how they might find it useful, instead of just throwing it out there as-is and assuming they’ll understand my brain. Nobody understands my brain, not even me.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:06:46pm

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

How much more can she be rewarded for access journalism?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:06:53pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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If we had had strong federal guidance this spring and summer, we’d be in a position to weather this winter in some semblance of comfort until one of the vaccine candidates gains approval. As it is, right now those of us who want to live are still locking ourselves away and fervently praying that we can get ahold of said vaccine as soon as it is demonstrated to be safe.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:07:18pm

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

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Well Maggie got what she wanted out of this circus. I don’t plan to read her history of this mad man.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:12:07pm

Today’s Covid numbers.

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:13:03pm

re: #36 thedopefishlives

I’ve done this before, but at least when I can see that it’s something that might be useful to other people, I start actually talking to other people about how they might find it useful, instead of just throwing it out there as-is and assuming they’ll understand my brain. Nobody understands my brain, not even me.

All goes back to the ASR-33 hooked to a PDP-7 or 11. The conventions that monster’s horrific typing caused in the earliest Unix releases still bite us now. Short cryptic names, little apps that should only do one thing and then using pipes to flow them together don’t do well in a GUI environment :D

Then you have the different streams of Bell/ATT vs BSD which is almost as much fun as trolling an editor war… LOL!

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:15:00pm

re: #10 b.d. (We Won!)

Not counting votes = Important legal victory

Great job there Ted, go back to Canada

The border is still closed, and anyway Canada doesn’t want his dumb ass.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:16:41pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Don’t get me started…. I once had to put a floppy into a hard-disk drive and the shame I felt could not be soothed by all the perky paperclip guys in the whole world.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:18:53pm

Since it’s payday, I donated to Ossoff, Warnock, Abrams’ group, and our local food pantry.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:21:43pm

If you live in Los Angeles you have a ton of Armenian neighbors. Arguably the largest community outside of Armenia. As it happens I have worked with them for decades as they are a massive factor in the jewelry making biz.

As we enjoy the music of Tigran Hamasyan, let us remember they just got screwed in the recent assault from Azerbaijan and lost out big in the settlement. One can argue the politics, the history etc all day. The Turks helped Azerbaijan take disputed land by force despite long years of peace. This expansionist adventure might not have been so easy if we had competent leadership and global stature as a calm peacemaker.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:21:58pm
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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:22:47pm
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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:23:45pm

Good to know Disney amusement parks and all the cruise lines give no shits whether you live or die.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:23:58pm

re: #46 jaunte

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I’m sure racists felt crushed by Loving too. And Alito has some nerve to complain given the circumstances of how two of his colleagues got on the court.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:24:16pm

The man is correct, but it’s infuriating that he’s just now catching up to ideas laid down by people who correctly identified the arc of all this shit years ago and that were treated as alarmists and fools.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:24:51pm

re: #49 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s hard to see how an adult thinks this is a good argument.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:25:40pm

re: #51 jaunte

It’s hard to see how an adult thinks this is a good argument.

It’s what happens when you’re a cheap Scalia knockoff like Alito here.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:26:03pm

The Angry Partisan Supreme Court, or APSCOTUS.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:26:59pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:28:29pm

re: #37 jaunte

How much more can she be rewarded for access journalism?

It really makes me sick all the “congratulations” shit from people who shouldn’t be championing this kind of work.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:29:09pm

hi

My wife and I had to go into the county seat to pay delinquent property taxes (how’d we miss that? Well it’s fixed now) and renew our car registration (Happy Birthday, Maxwell the Smart! You’re seven years old today with 80,000 miles!)

Bridgeport is considered “severe risk for infection” so we’ve been avoiding going at all, but with the overdue taxes and approaching expiry of the car plates we cannot avoid it (such things must be done in person, thanks Gov. Ricketts).

I ran into my first feral conservative covidiot when we went to Dollar General. DG has a mandatory mask policy in Bridgeport due to the severe rating for the city. Said covidiot was standing outside the door of the store, no mask.

Going to stores, my wife and I generally drive together (she’s not big on driving) and only one goes into a store (reducing exposure or spread). For this visit she went in, because it was stuff she needed.

Anyway, covidiot comes up to my wife and starts berating her and threatening her over her mask. Guy is in his forties maybe, about four or five inches taller than me and about one hundred pounds heavier.

I came barreling out of the car screaming “what the FUQUE are you doing harassing my wife? What the FUQUE do you thing bullying a little old lady on a cane does?”

All 115# of righteous fury of me was getting between my wife and him, and although I expected to take a beating, I was going to take him out with me.

Instead, he ran off.

Inside the store, they’d said they already called the sheriff, but the car was elsewhere in the county and was still some time away.

After that we went to the butcher. They’ve got a new sign: Cash or check only. They pulled out their new credit card reader after people complained they were being charged 3% on their credit card bills by their companies. He told the company to get the credit card equipment.

Same at the liquor store, the gas station, and the supermarket. All have pulled credit card readers out and no longer accept them, because credit card companies charging you 3% to use your card is now a thing here.

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:29:59pm

Ron Klain’s Magic Power: Making Government Work, by Nancy LeTourneau, Washington Monthly

After Donald Trump’s election in 2016, he chose Cabinet members who had spent their careers undermining the departments they were chosen to lead. During remarks at CPAC in February 2017, Steve Bannon—who was then serving as Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor to the President—explained why those choices were no accident. Cabinet members were selected to render “the deconstruction of the administrative state.” As a result, bureaucracies like the State Department were decimated. The primary qualification for working in the administration was not expertise or competence, but loyalty to the president and delight in being a wrecking ball. …

For a president entering office in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, Klain’s experience as the Ebola Czar will be invaluable. But beyond that, Biden and Harris will face the enormous task of reconstructing the federal government. While legislative priorities and executive orders will be a critical part of their work, none of that will be effective until personnel are in place and accountable for carrying out the president’s agenda. Someone like Ronald Klain, who understands how to make government work, will be a critical part of that process.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:30:43pm

re: #47 jaunte

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On Alito: most of us know little about him, but I’ll bet we can all remember how he shook his head as President Obama condemned the “Citizens United” decision as a mistake that would invite massive amounts of both domestic and foreign spending in our elections. Just as Roberts should be ashamed of himself for gutting the Voting Rights Act, Alito should be ashamed of himself for his position and for that moment. I will bet that neither of them will ever admit how wrong they were.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:33:43pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hmm. Traditionally, that cost has been borne by the companies using the credit. Are the companies then passing that on to the consumer instead?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:33:51pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

My guess is they don’t think they were wrong at all. They are conservatives first and jurists second.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:36:10pm

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Hmm. Traditionally, that cost has been borne by the companies using the credit. Are the companies then passing that on to the consumer instead?

According to the butcher, they are charging in both directions now.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:36:30pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

According to the butcher, they are charging in both directions now.

Oh. That’s new. And unpleasant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:37:07pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

On Alito: most of us know little about him, but I’ll bet we can all remember how he shook his head as President Obama condemned the “Citizens United” decision as a mistake that would invite massive amounts of both domestic and foreign spending in our elections. Just as Roberts should be ashamed of himself for gutting the Voting Rights Act, Alito should be ashamed of himself for his position and for that moment. I will bet that neither of them will ever admit how wrong they were.

It is still Alito’s position; he is a partisan hack with no loyalty to this nation, but only to his party. That’s why I continue to believe Harriet Miers would have proved a far superior judge. She certainly could not have been worse, especially when she could have been under the tutelage of RBG.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:37:21pm

re: #50 The Ghost of a Flea

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The man is correct, but it’s infuriating that he’s just now catching up to ideas laid down by people who correctly identified the arc of all this shit years ago and that were treated as alarmists and fools.

It’s infuriating that it took 66 years for my parent to realize they were being racist and have decided to work on it, but I’m glad they have (back a few years ago, when that cop in Plano tackled that black girl for arguing with him at the swimming pool, my mom at one point tried to justify it because there might have been shivs lying around for the girl to grab - her argument was falling apart). Not everyone sees like us, and I’m sure there are plenty of things I miss.

According to reports in the last thread, their group lowered Trump’s vote in areas where their videos showed by 7-8 points. So, they helped. No, they couldn’t see things as clear as we could, but wasting energy on condemning them now seems counterproductive and stress inducing, especially since there are much better targets. That’s just my opinion.

I still have my brother and his wife who are pro-Trump. My brother has arguments with my dad and accuses my parents of being influenced by me. I might be the liberal in the family, but dad found Maddow and Colbert on his own.

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:40:33pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Must be why I prefer 9mm … :D

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:40:56pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

My wife and I had to go into the county seat to pay delinquent property taxes (how’d we miss that? Well it’s fixed now) and renew our car registration (Happy Birthday, Maxwell the Smart! You’re seven years old today with 80,000 miles!)

Bridgeport is considered “severe risk for infection” so we’ve been avoiding going at all, but with the overdue taxes and approaching expiry of the car plates we cannot avoid it (such things must be done in person, thanks Gov. Ricketts).

I ran into my first feral conservative covidiot when we went to Dollar General. DG has a mandatory mask policy in Bridgeport due to the severe rating for the city. Said covidiot was standing outside the door of the store, no mask.

Going to stores, my wife and I generally drive together (she’s not big on driving) and only one goes into a store (reducing exposure or spread). For this visit she went in, because it was stuff she needed.

Anyway, covidiot comes up to my wife and starts berating her and threatening her over her mask. Guy is in his forties maybe, about four or five inches taller than me and about one hundred pounds heavier.

I came barreling out of the car screaming “what the FUQUE are you doing harassing my wife? What the FUQUE do you thing bullying a little old lady on a cane does?”

All 115# of righteous fury of me was getting between my wife and him, and although I expected to take a beating, I was going to take him out with me.

Instead, he ran off.

Inside the store, they’d said they already called the sheriff, but the car was elsewhere in the county and was still some time away.

After that we went to the butcher. They’ve got a new sign: Cash or check only. They pulled out their new credit card reader after people complained they were being charged 3% on their credit card bills by their companies. He told the company to get the credit card equipment.

Same at the liquor store, the gas station, and the supermarket. All have pulled credit card readers out and no longer accept them, because credit card companies charging you 3% to use your card is now a thing here.

What type of card readers did they have? I think it’s the readers charging it, not the card companies.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:41:50pm

re: #66 William Lewis

Must be why I prefer 9mm … :D

I don’t want to know that much about Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:43:33pm

Previous thread:

CORRECTION: The Democratic Party was founded by the racist Thomas Jefferson. The KKK was founded by the racist Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest whose statues Angela Stanton Greene wants to protect and preserve in honor of his memory.

— Edwin Mix

That would be the Democratic-Republican Party, which collapsed. The Democratic Party was founded by racist Andrew Jackson.

Scorecard! Can’t keep your racists straight without a scorecard!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:44:08pm

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Charging 3% for using plastic, whether it’s debit or credit, is a violation of the merchant services agreement for all of the major players. Its just another way of saying “I don’t want your business.”

I could imagine them going apeshit if they had to conduct business the way it’s done in China - no cash, all purchases made by snapping the QR code on your smartphone to your bank’s account.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:52:30pm

re: #10 b.d. (We Won!)

Not counting votes = Important legal victory

Great job there Ted, go back to Canada

Nooooo! We don’t want him back. We were glad to see him go!

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sagehen  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:53:15pm

re: #49 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m sure racists felt crushed by Loving too. And Alito has some nerve to complain given the circumstances of how two of his colleagues got on the court.

Lester Maddox felt so crushed by the Civil Rights Act, and a court decision that he had to serve black customers…. that he had to close his restaurant altogether. I mean, how dare the government suggest that customers are customers and he can’t be that fussy.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:54:49pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

It’s long been my contention that the American Faith is as bloodthirsty as that of the Aztecs.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2020 • 6:59:11pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:03:08pm

re: #70 Eric The Fruit Bat

Charging 3% for using plastic, whether it’s debit or credit, is a violation of the merchant services agreement for all of the major players. Its just another way of saying “I don’t want your business.”

I could imagine them going apeshit if they had to conduct business the way it’s done in China - no cash, all purchases made by snapping the QR code on your smartphone to your bank’s account.

That would be a bit much for me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:04:21pm

re: #74 Belafon

This is just sad.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:08:25pm

re: #74 Belafon

Time coming soon to say goodbye with grace & dignity

That ship sailed better than a week ago, Jerry.

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stpaulbear  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:09:04pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Clickbait.

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EPR-radar  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:09:32pm

re: #76 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is just sad.

Rivera is basically a mountebank in the same line of business as Trump — grifting rubes.

IMO it’s birds of a feather flocking together.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:10:11pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:16:00pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

Rivera is basically a mountebank in the same line of business as Trump — grifting rubes.

IMO it’s birds of a feather flocking together.

Oh I know. Sad in the sense that Geraldo is begging Trump to come down on Twitter like that.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:18:59pm

This.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:21:17pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

And this, kiddies, is why we vote by mail in the middle of a freaking pandemic:

Election Day voters at Vestavia Hills church may have been exposed to COVID-19, Jeffco says
al.com

(That is about the whitest, richest zipcode in Alabama.)

A mile from Chateau BlueSpot

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gocart mozart  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:22:09pm
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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:26:58pm

re: #47 jaunte

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cat-tikvah  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:27:53pm

Lt. Gov. Fetterman considering 2022 run for US Senate or PA governor
wtae.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:29:14pm

re: #86 cat-tikvah

Lt. Gov. Fetterman considering 2022 run for US Senate or PA governor
wtae.com

He should. I think he’d do well.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:29:38pm

Southeast England could become a literal shitshow in 8 weeks: Guardian

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:37:52pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:47:44pm
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:55:24pm

re: #74 Belafon

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Whorealdo returns true to form.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:56:21pm

re: #90 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Acting?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:57:18pm

re: #50 The Ghost of a Flea

The man is correct, but it’s infuriating that he’s just now catching up to ideas laid down by people who correctly identified the arc of all this shit years ago and that were treated as alarmists and fools.

Well, Cassandra was a liberal in her day.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:58:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:59:17pm

re: #43 Barefoot Grin

Don’t get me started…. I once had to put a floppy into a hard-disk drive and the shame I felt could not be soothed by all the perky paperclip guys in the whole world.

And here I thought the CD/DVD drawer on the side of my computer was a coffee cop holder. /s

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 7:59:19pm

Welcome to the third world America.

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:01:34pm

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

She is going to legitimize and humanize Agolf Shitler in an effing book!

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:02:07pm

re: #91 🌹UOJB!

Whorealdo returns true to form.

Never a fan but Geraldo is politely telling Trump it’s time to go and he somehow against all history imagines that Trump could depart with grace — or maybe he believes that Trump could think it is graceful if he petulantly concedes. At least the Geraldo tweet is not claiming voter fraud.

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:02:36pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Things were much more Basic when it was “Peeks” and “Pokes.”

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gocart mozart  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:05:18pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:05:21pm

re: #74 Belafon

😂 Pathetic groveling. Trump has been nothing but a disgrace and an embarrassment. He’s a failed and dangerous man. Good riddance. Thank goodness our side won.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:08:54pm

re: #67 Belafon

What type of card readers did they have? I think it’s the readers charging it, not the card companies.

Could be. It’s those little devices which sit on the counter and swipe your card (the stores around here had the ones with chip slots, but they all have a cardboard stuck in that slot so you can’t use it). I don’t know who makes them … I assume they are connected to the telephone line because it takes about two minutes to get an approval.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:11:25pm

re: #43 Barefoot Grin

I learned how to fix computers with transistor cards, big-ass hard drives, vacuum column tape drives and the memory looked like this…

.. so I get my first job setting up a computer for Computerland. I wondered why it was so hard to cut that 8” floppy out of it’s rectangular package.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:15:27pm

We spent so much time learning how each part of a CPU worked, adders, shift registers, instruction decoding only to go to a CPU on a chip and memory on a chip, and peripheral device controllers on a chip. And computers are now like Bic pens.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:15:46pm

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

So where is Trump doing this? Between the eighteenth hole and the clubhouse, or at his covidpaloozas? Maybe his Dumpster fire of a Twitter feed? His long calls to the sofa at FOX? Maybe it was his campaign speech in front of the Wall of Heroes at the CIA headquarters? Hiding his taxes? What about those immigration papers he promised about Melania? That plan for healthcare, or his Infrastructure Week? Was it when he was pardoning war criminals, or when he called military personnel and veterans “suckers and losers?”

Where is this right thing, and when did he do it? Show your work.

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:15:56pm

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

When Breyer steps down, and he will, Biden should appoint Obama to fill the seat. Primarily because he would be the most qualified. And also because it would piss off the Rethuglicans to no end. Let them vote against a former President. I effin’ dare them!

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:17:54pm

re: #86 cat-tikvah

If the results are decided in a cage match, I know where my money is.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:18:21pm

Haspel is getting shit canned.

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EPR-radar  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:18:33pm

re: #106 TarHellion

When Breyer steps down, and he will, Biden should appoint Obama to fill the seat. Primarily because he would be the most qualified. And also because it would piss off the Rethuglicans to no end. Let them vote against a former President. I effin’ dare them!

If the GOP held the senate , that pick would be blockaded just like the Garland nomination.

But that might be a fight worth picking.

Edited to add: And to be ruthlessly practical, we would want a substatially younger pick than Obama.

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:19:13pm

re: #88 Sherlock Hound

Yeah, well, they voted for this.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:19:40pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:19:42pm

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:20:00pm

re: #106 TarHellion

When Breyer steps down, and he will, Biden should appoint Obama to fill the seat. Primarily because he would be the most qualified. And also because it would piss off the Rethuglicans to no end. Let them vote against a former President. I effin’ dare them!

McConnell made it clear he will not allow Joe to appoint any judges.

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:21:05pm

re: #103 Dread Pirate Ron

I learned how to fix computers with transistor cards, big-ass hard drives, vacuum column tape drives and the memory looked like this…

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.. so I get my first job setting up a computer for Computerland. I wondered why it was so hard to cut that 8” floppy out of it’s rectangular package.

Heh. Nice core module. Looks IBM? I’m more familiar with DEC and even then it was later on with nice clean IC’s and Qbus and Massbus and best of all Sun on VME cards.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:21:17pm

re: #106 TarHellion

When Breyer steps down, and he will, Biden should appoint Obama to fill the seat. Primarily because he would be the most qualified. And also because it would piss off the Rethuglicans to no end. Let them vote against a former President. I effin’ dare them!

You don’t think they would?

They would. In a NY minute.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:22:05pm

re: #114 William Lewis

Heh. Nice core module. Looks IBM? I’m more familiar with DEC and even then it was later on with nice clean IC’s and Qbus and Massbus and best of all Sun on VME cards.

I learned on a CDC 3150. I just tried to find a similar core.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:22:27pm

Screaming heard from the White House.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:23:04pm

re: #88 Sherlock Hound

Southeast England could become a literal shitshow in 8 weeks: Guardian

Conservatives everywhere dodge responsibility and blame others.

A spokeswoman for the Department for Transport referred questions to Highways England. A spokeswoman for Highways England said: “We are working with a number of partners to put contingency plans in place.” But she referred questions about toilet facilities for lorry drivers back to the department and to Kent county council.

A Kent county council spokesman said waste clearance was the responsibility of district and borough councils.

He added: “Local partners are working together to plan a traffic management system that will best fit with sites available from the government for freight parking and checks. As part of that ongoing work, government has ensured there will be toilet provision for drivers at those sites around Kent.”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:24:44pm

re: #115 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They would with flare and bells ringing. They hate President Obama.

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:25:15pm

re: #111 jaunte

306-232 Mother-Effers!!! And we won’t have two electors bail out!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:25:49pm

re: #106 TarHellion

When Breyer steps down, and he will, Biden should appoint Obama to fill the seat. Primarily because he would be the most qualified. And also because it would piss off the Rethuglicans to no end. Let them vote against a former President. I effin’ dare them!

He already promised a black woman and there’s like the VP and women a lot of candidates he could consider. I think Obama should enjoy retirement. He’s earned it.

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:27:01pm

re: #116 Dread Pirate Ron

I learned on a CDC 3150. I just tried to find a similar core.

Heard good things about them but never worked with any. Vaxen, PDP-11, and lots of Unix boxen :D Liked DG too but Sun remains my favorite. Pity they were swallowed by Oracle, that was almost as sad as DEC -> Compaq -> HP …

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TarHellion  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:29:45pm

re: #121 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes he has. And there are plenty qualified. Just venting on a Thursday night. Nevertheless, Obama would be the ultimate foil to Alito’s bullhockey.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:31:45pm

re: #123 TarHellion

Yes he has. And there are plenty qualified. Just venting on a Thursday night. Nevertheless, Obama would be the ultimate foil to Alito’s bullhockey.

Oh yeah I’d love to see it but it’s a pipedream but Obama would make an excellent justice. The guy is literally a Constitutional lawyer which made all the scoffing about how he didn’t understand the Constitution all the more absurd.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:35:06pm

re: #124 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh yeah I’d love to see it but it’s a pipedream but Obama would make an excellent justice. The guy is literally a Constitutional lawyer which made all the scoffing about how he didn’t understand the Constitution all the more absurd.

Obama can be appointed to Clarence Thomas seat — which hopefully will become vacant soon since Thomas may feel safe departing when there are 5 other conservative judges. Or perhaps Kavanaugh will “resign” when Doug Jones uncovers who financed him. The Biden DOJ is going to be very busy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:35:35pm

re: #86 cat-tikvah

Lt. Gov. Fetterman considering 2022 run for US Senate or PA governor
wtae.com

Can they make “Assassin’s Creed: Pennsylvania Election” and feature him?

I joked to a friend that he looks like he’s ready to go a viking - and would probably head to Minnesota, or Texas.

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sagehen  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:36:15pm

re: #120 TarHellion

306-232 Mother-Effers!!! And we won’t have two electors bail out!!

So in 2016, Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million (2.5%), and it got him 306 EV.
In 2020, he lost the popular vote by more than 5 million (3.5%), and Joe got 306 EV.

Shows how much structural advantage the EC gives the R’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:38:02pm

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

Obama can be appointed to Clarence Thomas seat — which hopefully will become vacant soon since Thomas may feel safe departing when there are 5 other conservative judges. Or perhaps Kavanaugh will “resign” when Doug Jones uncovers who financed him. The Biden DOJ is going to be very busy.

I think it’s a big assumption that he wants it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:38:37pm

re: #120 TarHellion

306-232 Mother-Effers!!! And we won’t have two electors bail out!!

Two more than Trump’s 304 (remember, he’s been lying for four years claiming it’s 306).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:39:49pm

re: #127 sagehen

Trump got 304. He’s lied about 306 for four years.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:40:27pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:41:06pm

re: #127 sagehen

So in 2016, Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million (2.5%), and it got him 306 EV.
In 2020, he lost the popular vote by more than 5 million (3.5%), and Joe got 306 EV.

Shows how much structural advantage the EC gives the R’s.

And they acted like Trump had a mandate in 2016 even though he finished sub 50%. They won’t let Joe have that narrative. I say we keep on talking about how Joe got the highest percentage of a challenger going up against an incumbent in 88 years with high turnout. He’s definitely got a mandate that Trump didn’t and I hope he’s able to put the brakes on McConnell by sowing discontent in the R caucus who have a lot of Senators up for re-election.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:42:27pm

re: #131 jaunte

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Not to worry. I only walk to the gym, around the neighborhood, or to pick up food. I’m not gonna pick a fight with these nuts. They’re outnumbered here.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:42:38pm

re: #110 TarHellion

Yeah, well, they voted for this.

The Torys are taking it out on the drivers. I read elsewhere that the British government, Gove in particular, was supposed to release guidance, and a book, for logistics companies and their drivers.

As the narrator says: No such thing was forecoming.

Next to be fucked up: The Eurotunnel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:44:21pm

re: #131 jaunte

Evolution favours those who can adapt. It eliminates those who cannot.

While conservative change and conservative politics aren’t the same, they have the same result.

While Covid-19 is going to take some liberals who listen to scientists, doctors, nurses, and public health officials, it will kill far more conservatives because they cannot adapt to changing conditions.

Meanwhile, this coward;

Ricketts warns of tighter restrictions, but no mask mandate, if hospitalizations keep rising (Omaha World-Herald)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:44:34pm

Who are the happiest people about Arizona? Has to be Fox. Their initial call was premature and clearly based on inadequate evidence — but it all worked out for them! They are likely celebrating and high-fiving it (in secret, of course!).

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:45:51pm
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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:47:03pm

re: #131 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:47:55pm

RCP has finally moved Penna. back to the Blue column, and moves AZ to “likely D”
realclearpolitics.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:53:21pm

University of Nebraska Medical Center Vice-Chancellor for Health Security Training

Call him a genocidaire, Sen. Hunt. At this point it’s deliberate.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:53:52pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:56:58pm

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

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People like this will be remembered when we get out of this. Their selfishness and their myopic worldview. I don’t like having to wear a mask but I’d rather be smart than reckless.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 12, 2020 • 8:59:07pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I hadn’t checked that website in a long time… it seems to be trashier than ever given the links they are promoting.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:01:39pm

re: #142 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

People like this will be remembered when we get out of this. Their selfishness and their myopic worldview. I don’t like having to wear a mask but I’d rather be smart than reckless.

Don’t worry.

Bots can’t get the corona.
They aren’t human, and neither is this entity on Twitter. Seriously, I wonder, if there was an outbreak at the IRA in St. Petersburg, I wonder how we’ll notice.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:07:32pm

re: #144 Sherlock Hound

Don’t worry.

Bots can’t get the corona.
They aren’t human, and neither is this entity on Twitter. Seriously, I wonder, if there was an outbreak at the IRA in St. Petersburg, I wonder how we’ll notice.

Oh? That’s a bot? Couldn’t tell. I still think the coup de grace would be Putin getting it. All that pathetic propaganda from the IRA done to sow discontent and then the manly man gets it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:08:43pm

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

When my wife and I got home from the county seat, the first thing we did was strip our clothes and toss them in the wash, followed by showers.

Half the towns in the Panhandle are now at “severe risk.” The same three towns (mine, Lisco, and Llewellyn) still have no cases.

November 10 revised upward to +227 new cases.
October 23 revised upward to +106 new cases.

Cases have quadrupled since October 7

Most by age: 20-29
Women and girls are 2/3 of cases, the inverse of the statewide figure.

Deaths: 24 (+7)
Dawes County (seat Chadron): 2 (+1)
Box Butte County (seat Alliance): 2 (+1)
Grant County (seat Hyannis): 1 (+1)
Scott’s Bluff County (seat Gering) 14 (+4)

Total cases in my county: 243
Active cases in my county: 84

Total cases: 4,098 (+63)
Currently hospitalised: 76
Available beds (all): 39%
Men and boys are 60% of hospitalisations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:09:09pm

My Governor is such an idiot:

JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - In a press conference on Thursday, Gov. Tate Reeves said Mississippi would not participate in a nationwide lockdown if one is mandated by President-elect Joe Biden.

He said that while the election results have yet to be determined, the state would not shut down its economy again, even if mandated by the federal government.

We are not going to participate in a nationwide lockdown,” he said, adding that closing the economy for six weeks would be “totally and completely beyond reasonableness.”

He went on to say that he hopes to work with the next president, whoever that is, in other ways to help prevent the spread of the virus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:09:25pm

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

We’re surrounded by morans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:10:31pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

My Governor is such an idiot:

JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - In a press conference on Thursday, Gov. Tate Reeves said Mississippi would not participate in a nationwide lockdown if one is mandated by President-elect Joe Biden.

He said that while the election results have yet to be determined, the state would not shut down its economy again, even if mandated by the federal government.

We are not going to participate in a nationwide lockdown,” he said, adding that closing the economy for six weeks would be “totally and completely beyond reasonableness.”

He went on to say that he hopes to work with the next president, whoever that is, in other ways to help prevent the spread of the virus.

I’ll trade you for Pete Ricketts. At least Gov. Reeves was willing to order masks and not hold CARES funding hostage to local governments if they did.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:11:04pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re surrounded by morans.

Unfortunately they are now also infectious.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:11:44pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

My Governor is such an idiot:

JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - In a press conference on Thursday, Gov. Tate Reeves said Mississippi would not participate in a nationwide lockdown if one is mandated by President-elect Joe Biden.

He said that while the election results have yet to be determined, the state would not shut down its economy again, even if mandated by the federal government.

We are not going to participate in a nationwide lockdown,” he said, adding that closing the economy for six weeks would be “totally and completely beyond reasonableness.”

He went on to say that he hopes to work with the next president, whoever that is, in other ways to help prevent the spread of the virus.

Yet the $tenographer$ in the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press STILL ignore the truth that Republicans want the weak, elderly, disabled and sick to die.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:13:26pm

Well I have my MacBook Air and Mac mini both upgraded to Big Sur and am on a learning curve to see what’s improved and different.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:16:18pm

re: #144 Sherlock Hound

Is that a bot though? The account has been around since 2012.

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gocart mozart  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:17:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:23:55pm

He still lives to write columns for syndication.

If Joe Biden survives recounts and several lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign into what Trump says has been widespread vote-counting fraud (we await proof), do not expect him to be hounded over his and Hunter Biden’s business ties to China and Ukraine as President Trump has been over “Russian collusion” charges and numerous other attempts by Democrats, the left and the media to undermine his administration.

In an address to the nation last Saturday, President-Elect Biden claimed he has been given a “mandate for action on COVID, the economy, climate change (and) systemic racism.” He called for healing and unity.

Biden reportedly plans to issue a slew of executive orders, reversing those by President Trump. It is his right to do so, but how does that promote healing and unity? For Democrats, healing and unity often means bowing to their policy wishes. It never seems to work in reverse.

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CAL THOMAS: Bipolar America (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

To be fair to the Star-Herald, they actually published a liberal columnist, I guess because they needed one this month, Froma Harrop.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:24:17pm

FB exchange:

Friend(physician): “Based on this morning’s X-rays, the Covid outbreak is getting serious. In case you forget, wear a ducking mask.”

Friend of his: “What happened on this mornings x-rays”

Friend: “lots and lots of Covid pneumonia looking X-rays”

Very grim in Illinois. We remain #1 nationwide for new cases.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:24:47pm

re: #154 gocart mozart

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I can’t wait till I can mark Satan’s Tinkerbelle off on my GOP Going To Jail Bingo Card!

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:26:00pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is that a bot though? The account has been around since 2012.

It must be little used; most people would change a numeric username. That person just doesn’t sound right to me.

I don’t lose a ton of credibility by shouting “Bot!” It pisses off the right people. It should piss off Twitter—they have better visibility into this than I do. But since Twitter won’t do anything about it…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:28:59pm

re: #158 Sherlock Hound

It must be little used; most people would change a numeric username. That person just doesn’t sound right to me.

I don’t lose a ton of credibility by shouting “Bot!” It pisses off the right people. It should piss off Twitter—they have better visibility into this than I do. But since Twitter won’t do anything about it…

I think that one might be legit. The bots always seem a little off to me. But that one I think is an actual person and not just a name and eight digits.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:31:35pm

High-tech counterfeiting. Glibertarians continue to be scammers, and there are plenty of people to scam with so-called fiat money cryptocurrency.

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A Colorado man pleaded guilty Thursday in what authorities in New Jersey said was a $722 million cryptocurrency mining scheme.

Jobadiah Sinclair Weeks of Arvada, Colorado, pleaded guilty by videoconference to one count each of tax evasion and conspiracy to sell unregistered securities.

Weeks was one of five people indicted last December who were connected to the BitClub Network, according to the U.S. attorney’s office.

Mining involves using computers to solve mathematical problems in order to record virtual currency transactions. Miners receive cryptocurrency for their work. But authorities said the earnings reported by BitClub Network were false.

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starherald.com

He will be sentenced in March, where he faces up to five years in prison. He failed to report to tax authorities (those statists who steal at the point of a gun) over $10 million in taxable income.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:36:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:40:51pm

COVID-19 Event Risk Assessment Planning Tool (Georgia Institute of Technology)

Default map is by US county. Tabs are available for other countries. Default event is fifty people, adjustable by a slider on the lower left.

The risk level is the estimated chance (0-100%) that at least 1 COVID-19 positive individual will be present at an event in a county, given the size of the event.

Based on seroprevalence data, we assume there are ten times more cases than are being reported (10:1 ascertainment bias). In places with more testing availability, that rate may be lower.

Chicago is safer than my county.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:43:29pm
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garzooma  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:45:50pm

re: #74 Belafon

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Geraldo Rivera
@GeraldoRivera
Dear
@realDonaldTrump
-my honored friend-you fought an incredible battle vs all odds and the curse of insidious disease. You battled the back stabbers & our enemies & remade the world in peace & prosperity.

Part of the “peace and prosperity” was the cleansing of Armenians from their homeland.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:49:08pm
Nebraska currently has the fifth worst outbreak in the United States (see table below). Hospitals in South Dakota and North Dakota are full, and hospitals in Nebraska are rapidly filling (see graphs below). Overly full hospitals impact the care of all conditions, not just COVID-19. If Nebraska were a European nation, we would have the fifth worst outbreak in Europe (see table below).

The doubling time for COVID-19 hospitalizations in Omaha is currently 21 days. We currently have 372 COVID patients in the hospital. This doubling time means that in 3 weeks there will be 744 COVID patients needing the hospital, and in six weeks, there will be 1,488 COVID-19 patients needing the hospital. For perspective, the Omaha metro currently has 268 unoccupied, staffed hospital beds. The math is extremely worrisome.

I’m sorry this post is so dark, but we need to get the word out about the COVID-19 situation in Nebraska (Goes to Nebraska Medicine, Dr. David W. Johnson, MD)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:51:13pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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heh, Minot, N.D. get-together with 15 people, 95% chance of spread.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:52:14pm

re: #164 garzooma

Part of the “peace and prosperity” was the cleansing of Armenians from their homeland.

Add in how that motherfather Trump stabbed the Kurds in the back.

When Whorealdo utters the peace & prosperity bullshit add in a whole bunch of small businesses all over the country that are now gone and won’t come back.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:57:08pm

re: #166 Dread Pirate Ron

heh, Minot, N.D. get-together with 15 people, 95% chance of spread.

Yikes. For fifteen, we’re at a cool 71% in Morrill County.

Meanwhile, the governor’s spokesman Taylor Gage has stopped attacking female health workers. Instead, he’s promoting the stories of people who “beat the virus.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 9:58:44pm

re: #167 🌹UOJB!

Add in how that motherfather Trump stabbed the Kurds in the back.

When Whorealdo utters the peace & prosperity bullshit add in a whole bunch of small businesses all over the country that are now gone and won’t come back.

Pardoned war criminals, has not addressed bounties on our troops, feral conservatives in every corner of the nation, slaughters in synagogues, Nazis marching in the streets… .

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:05:34pm

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

COVID-19 Event Risk Assessment Planning Tool (Georgia Institute of Technology)

Default map is by US county. Tabs are available for other countries. Default event is fifty people, adjustable by a slider on the lower left.

Chicago is safer than my county.

California collects data for all 58 counties, and then puts them into one of four groups depending on numbers of new cases and percentage of positive tests. That risk map doesn’t resemble ours, and I’m not sure I trust its “risk assessment.”

(My own judgement of the risk everywhere is that you should stay the fuck at home. At least you won’t be dealing with two weeks of turkey leftovers.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:09:30pm

re: #170 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

(My own judgement of the risk everywhere is that you should stay the fuck at home. At least you won’t be dealing with two weeks of turkey leftovers.)

We’ll be dealing with four months of turkey leftovers, because my wife always wants to buy a turkey the size of a boulder for two people. (We don’t go to family Thanksgiving events as we’re not invited to them … something something religion).

So we have roast turkey, turkey leftovers, turkey sandwiches, turkey soup, turkey surprise, surprise turkey again …

That lasts until about Christmas, when our neighbour brings us a couple of Canada geese he shoots. (That’s been a tradition for a few years now.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:10:08pm

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pardoned war criminals, has not addressed bounties on our troops, feral conservatives in every corner of the nation, slaughters in synagogues, Nazis marching in the streets… .

Once Biden is inaugurated, we can start pursuing justice, but until then, getting Trump to acknowledge defeat and leave as quietly as possible without inflicting substantial additional damage should be the first goal. He must depart before anything can be accomplished, and if Geraldo’s lies can make him amenable to a peaceful departure, without further sturm und drang, that would be preferable to continued uproar and dissension.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:10:50pm

re: #40 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid numbers.

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The CA numbers on that chart don’t match the state’s posted numbers. Where are you getting yours?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:12:49pm

re: #173 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

The CA numbers on that chart don’t match the state’s posted numbers. Where are you getting yours?

WorldMeter

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:14:03pm

re: #173 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

The CA numbers on that chart don’t match the state’s posted numbers. Where are you getting yours?

Looks like his are from worldometer; numbers don’t match other sources but their format is easier to review. Numbers are in ballpark but tend to be a little higher.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:20:55pm

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

Looks like his are from worldometer; numbers don’t match other sources but their format is easier to review. Numbers are in ballpark but tend to be a little higher.

Curiously, the “total tests” for CA is spot on. (From the beginning of this, I’ve been unable to match any numbers from different sites, and it’s frustrating.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:21:01pm

A tropical depression is given a 90% chance to form in the central Caribbean Sea within forty-eight hours. Tropical Storm Eta (the storm that won’t die) is southeast of Charleston, So. Car. and paralleling the coastline. Tropical Storm Theta is still headed for the Canary Islands but will turn sharply north before getting there. A tropical wave in the eastern Pacific may develop into a depression by next week, away from land.

The tropics can take the rest of the year off, with my permission.

nhc.noaa.gov

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:24:42pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’ll be dealing with four months of turkey leftovers, because my wife always wants to buy a turkey the size of a boulder for two people. (We don’t go to family Thanksgiving events as we’re not invited to them … something something religion).

So we have roast turkey, turkey leftovers, turkey sandwiches, turkey soup, turkey surprise, surprise turkey again …

That lasts until about Christmas, when our neighbour brings us a couple of Canada geese he shoots. (That’s been a tradition for a few years now.)

When our family get-togethers shrank to three people, my mother would buy a capon instead. Different enough from ordinary chicken to be festive, but not a ton of leftovers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:30:27pm

Nebraska Medicine back in March:

In the USA, we have three pathways for COVID-19:

The country views this challenge like WWI and WWII, and almost everyone does the right things, and we will be harmed but okay.
Many people do the right things, and many don’t, and we will have the same struggles that Italy is enduring.
People blow this disease off as no big deal, and our health care system (and life as we know it) will be crippled.

It is apparent the GOP has chosen path three, and they are going to make us ride their handcart to hell with them.

I’m a doctor at Nebraska Medicine. Here’s what I’m telling my family about COVID-19. (March 17)

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:32:24pm

President Piece Of Shit Can’t handle it!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 10:47:34pm

Jessica Kellgren-Fozard (UK disability advocate, religion counter-apologist, and fashonista of Forties fashion) goes after companies who are capitalising on the “fad” of facemasks and some of the horrible designs and fashions. (15:07)

Along the way, she throws out some statistics about the disease and spread.

Fashion Policing Face Masks [CC]

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Greup  Nov 12, 2020 • 11:05:15pm

re: #82 I Would Prefer Not To

my favorite version. :)
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 12, 2020 • 11:18:04pm

I figured I’d stick with WorldMeter through this. JohnsHopkins is not the best format and CDC is not trustworthy.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 11:43:23pm

re: #183 Dread Pirate Ron

Yes, I like the Worldmeter site — it just continues to irritate me that no two sites — even reliable ones — have the same figures.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 12, 2020 • 11:48:04pm

re: #184 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Yes, I like the Worldmeter site — it just continues to irritate me that no two sites — even reliable ones — have the same figures.

Chalk that up to no national plan for how to deal with this.

When the federal government told the states “you’re on your own,” each state had to create their own information centre from scratch.

Since there was no common denominator between the states, then the maladministration hijacked the CDC’s usual roll in collecting data (where there could have been one site with all the information), that fell on universities, private individuals, &c to go through the patchwork of state and territorial sites to try to make something coherent out of them.

Since each private site also has no particular way to collect data, and some are more interested in one thing than another, you wind up with different displays, different methods of collating data, different charts, &c.

All of this falls directly on the White House.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 12, 2020 • 11:54:14pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Chalk that up to no national plan for how to deal with this.

When the federal government told the states “you’re on your own,” each state had to create their own information centre from scratch.

Since there was no common denominator between the states, then the maladministration hijacked the CDC’s usual roll in collecting data (where there could have been one site with all the information), that fell on universities, private individuals, &c to go through the patchwork of state and territorial sites to try to make something coherent out of them.

Since each private site also has no particular way to collect data, and some are more interested in one thing than another, you wind up with different displays, different methods of collating data, different charts, &c.

All of this falls directly on the White House.

I don’t love the US response to the epidemic either, but I don’t think this can be blamed on them. Worldmeter harvests data from “local” sites, and there’s nothing to stop them from picking up the data from the CA site and publishing it. Yet the numbers don’t match.

Also, Worldmeter is international, so almost all of their data comes from sites the CDC has nothing to do with.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:00:35am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On top of that, every state run by Republicans also would rather ignore this, leaving it up to schools, counties, cities, public health departments, &c to try to collate the data and display it in a way which makes sense.

Had the White House let the CDC lead on this instead of installing political minders reminiscent of the Soviet Union, they would have created one standard for reporting and a centralised database that anyone could look at.

Instead we have a patchwork quilt of different Websites, which each display different things, and the private and university sites which try to collate the data into some coherent form are left holding the sack and consequentially wind up displaying different things.

Even within my own state, because the state would rather ignore what’s going on in favour of opening as quickly as possible and ignore even something basic like ordering masks (in fact it is antagonistic toward masks), we’re left with public health districts, schools (any of which run by majority-Republican school boards resisting releasing any information), universities and colleges, counties, municipalities, &c all releasing different information or displaying it differently.

In my village, we don’t even have a Website (rather pointless since almost no one has Internet), so as Public Information Officer I release information on the trap line (public places where information is posted on physical documents for villagers to read). How the hell is a group like IHME or Worldometer supposed to get our data? (Fortunately our cases are nil, but as soon as the health board tells me we have a case I’ll put information on the trap line. Who the hell am I supposed to report information to Worldometer or IHME to?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:02:24am

re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea

Also, I finally caved in and made home made mayonnaise.

Not bad if you add some hot sauce and pepper.

we did that once for our homemade caesar salad dressing

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:05:12am

re: #186 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I don’t love the US response to the epidemic either, but I don’t think this can be blamed on them. Worldmeter harvests data from “local” sites, and there’s nothing to stop them from picking up the data from the CA site and publishing it. Yet the numbers don’t match.

Also, Worldmeter is international, so almost all of their data comes from sites the CDC has nothing to do with.

That’s the thing: If we had a standardised plan created by CDC, with normal reporting of any other disease which goes to them, Worldometer could simply use CDC data.

Instead, they have to go through a patchwork of state, county, district, and city sites to collect data: A profound waste of time for the people who have to collate that data from disparate systems all across the country.

This is exactly the fault of the maladministration saying “you’re on your own and by the way, we’re putting political minders in the CDC to make sure you don’t get any help and only the information we want disseminated is promulgated.”

It is exactly Trump and his staff’s fault.

This is deliberate. They did this on purpose. Few if any other countries are having this shitshow reporting data.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:24:11am

COVID Cases Continue to Advance in Panhandle (Sidney, Nebr. Sun-Telegraph)

Due to severe risk in Sidney, they have closed the public library. Curbside service is available to pick up books there.

(Our public library remains open since our town is at “low risk.”)

On Tuesday, Nov. 10, the City of Sidney announced that Gov. Pete Ricketts had updated the state’s Directed Health Measure (DHM) effective, today, Nov. 11. Under the updated DHM, six feet of separation must be maintained in public places and events including gymnasiums, bars, restaurants, churches, weddings and funerals. Businesses where close contact will be maintained for 15 minutes or more — including salons, massage parlors, bowling alleys, pool halls — must require masks. Restaurant and bar capacity will remain at 100 percent, but six feet of separation must be maintained. Groups in restaurants will be limited to eight people per table; larger groups must split. Patrons at restaurants and bars must remain seated unless ordering, using a restroom or playing a game (masks are required if playing a game). Indoor gatherings are limited to 25 percent of occupancy with a 10,000 limit, and outdoor gatherings remain at 100 percent capacity. Indoor carnivals and dances are prohibited. Dancing at weddings is allowed as long as people remain at their tables. Dance recitals are allowed, but are subject to social distancing requirements.

Good luck with that.

Sidney’s mayor appeared a couple months ago on Tucker Carlson’s White Power Hour to discuss the shift in management at Cabela’s because that’s the most important thing impacting his city now, not Covid-19.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:29:49am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s the thing: If we had a standardised plan created by CDC, with normal reporting of any other disease which goes to them, Worldometer could simply use CDC data.

Instead, they have to go through a patchwork of state, county, district, and city sites to collect data: A profound waste of time for the people who have to collate that data from disparate systems all across the country.

This is exactly the fault of the maladministration saying “you’re on your own and by the way, we’re putting political minders in the CDC to make sure you don’t get any help and only the information we want disseminated is promulgated.”

It is exactly Trump and his staff’s fault.

This is deliberate. They did this on purpose. Few if any other countries are having this shitshow reporting data.

I just took a closer look at the CDC pages, and their numbers are clearly laid out, more helpful in some ways than Worldmeter, and not that far off their figures. The irritating differences I’m seeing are not sufficient to suggest a coverup or anything like it or I’d be more than irritated. (If they only let us see what they want us to see, why are they allowing us to see numbers in the millions on the CDC website? And why is “wear a mask” the first thing you see on their site?)

And CDC is not responsible for reporting data from other nations, which have the same discrepancies.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:31:31am

And it’s time for me to sign off and get some sleep, so until later!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:35:09am

re: #191 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Fair enough then.

Still, sites like IHME and Worldometer are not official information. They are sites privately collecting data, so their methodology will probably be different between each site.

They’re still stuck though with trying to collect data from each state, when each state displays different data. (For example, my state does not display a fourteen-day running average of anything, though Panhandle Public Health District does. Alliance Public School had to be threatened with a lawsuit to release any data. Wyoming’s information is completely different than Nebraska’s. &c ad nauseum, the biggest problem seems to me to be that there is no standard display of the data, even within a state.)

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Jack Burton  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:36:56am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

COVID-19 Event Risk Assessment Planning Tool (Georgia Institute of Technology)

Default map is by US county. Tabs are available for other countries. Default event is fifty people, adjustable by a slider on the lower left.

Chicago is safer than my county.

This tool should not be relied on for “Risk Assessment”. People should just stay the fuck home and wear damn masks when you cant.

From Rebecca Watson (Skepchick):

Please Stop Sharing the New COVID-19 Risk Map. It’s Dangerous.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:45:38am

re: #194 Jack Burton

This tool should not be relied on for “Risk Assessment”. People should just stay the fuck home and wear damn masks when you cant.

From Rebecca Watson (Skepchick):

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I agree. I ain’t goin’ anywhere I don’t have to.

I am concerned about my trip to the county seat today. Was I exposed to this disease? Am I going to be ill in a couple weeks and people will have to call the telephone number in my profile here to find out what happened to me? What happens to me if our hospitals are full before that happens?

In the meantime, area weather for the Nebraska Panhandle (it’s fookin’ cold).

bbc.com

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Teukka  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:48:15am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:55:21am

I’m off to bed. Good night, y’all. Stay warm (unless it’s hot where you are, then stay cool).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:56:31am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This new peer-reviewed COVID risk assessor shows that if I attend a family Thanksgiving in Omaha with just 10 people, there is a 68% chance that one of them has COVID.

This basically guarantees that the wave will be massive by Christmas/New Year’s…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 12:57:54am

re: #182 Greup

Basically, had they stopped counting at 6pm, Napoleon would have won at Waterloo, but then the Prussians showed up with the mail-in ballots…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 1:49:31am

.

Bach - WTC I Prelude and fugue in B major BWV 868 - Ares | Netherlands Bach Society

..

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Ming5000  Nov 13, 2020 • 2:36:02am

Another MAGA attacking a woman. Not sure what preceded. This man is pathetic.
At what point is the big pickup with a flag show a sign of a mental health issue? I remember during my childhood seeing run-down cars completely covered in bible versus. They freaked me out.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:01:42am

In COVID-19 related news, the pandemic has apparently claimed a rather infamous name - specifically, Peter Sutcliffe, better known as the Yorkshire Ripper.

news.sky.com

For those unfamiliar with Sutcliffe and his particular five year reign of terror, this is an excellent documentary:

Manhunt - The Yorkshire Ripper.

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Ming5000  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:07:10am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

Wikipedia already up to date on Sutcliffe’s date of death. 13 Nov 2020.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:12:37am

re: #204 Ming5000

Wikipedia already up to date on Sutcliffe’s date of death. 13 Nov 2020.

Yeah, saw that. I highly doubt anyone’s going to be shedding tears for Mr. Sutcliffe’s demise.

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Nojay UK  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:17:24am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, saw that. I highly doubt anyone’s going to be shedding tears for Mr. Sutcliffe’s demise.

“No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were: any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee.” John Donne, 1572 - 1631.

Sutcliffe was a monster but he was also a human being. I can agree with the first part while accepting the second.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:20:54am

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

That’s an entire timeline of crazy. Maskholes indeed.

re: #142 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

People like this will be remembered when we get out of this. Their selfishness and their myopic worldview. I don’t like having to wear a mask but I’d rather be smart than reckless.

If we were lucky they wouldn’t be remembered at all.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:23:38am

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits us on this Friday the 13th?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:24:52am

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits us on this Friday the 13th?

Trump doubling down on his claims as his actual “proof” dissipates in a poof of smoke…

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:26:36am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump doubling down on his claims as his actual “proof” dissipates in a poof of smoke…

So in other words, just another day ending in -y.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:28:32am

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits us on this Friday the 13th?

Did you know that in the last MegaMillions that 13 was the MegaBall, and in the last PowerBall (the following night) 13 was both a whiteball and the PowerBall?

Who knows what today’s MegaMillions draw may bring?

BTW, the lottery sales have definitely been down during the pandemic. Not only did the various lottery games drop their minimum jackpots and do away with the minimum for increments. but it’s taken much longer to build up the jackpot values.

Nothing quite like a pandemic with associated recession to deflate the gambling industry.

Nevertheless, it persists.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:29:09am

And I just got an email from our school district. Because of our community’s complete refusal to behave like sane and rational adults, all schools in the area are transitioning to full-time distance learning post-Thanksgiving. Thanks a lot, maskholes, it’s not like this wasn’t hell for all of us in the spring.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:33:56am

Also, 13 as a 1 in 13.59 chance of being a whiteball again tonight.

But of course, every number [1,70] as that chance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:35:00am

re: #212 thedopefishlives

And I just got an email from our school district. Because of our community’s complete refusal to behave like sane and rational adults, all schools in the area are transitioning to full-time distance learning post-Thanksgiving. Thanks a lot, maskholes, it’s not like this wasn’t hell for all of us in the spring.

If we had, in the spring, taken protective measures and - most importantly, added staff, expanded facilities and reduced class sizes, we would still be able to hold classes in schools.

But we blew off that chance months ago. All that stuff costs money…

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:40:16am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m also pissed because I know the maskholes’ reaction is going to be to get mad at the school system and the governor, because how dare our Democratic governor acknowledge reality and keep us closed down, issuing common-sense executive orders to keep us all safe, instead of just recklessly opening everything up and “ripping off the Band-Aid” so we can all get sick and die. That phrase, by the way, is a distressingly common refrain, and if I hear one more person say it, I might just haul off and punch them. That’s not how this works, you idiots.

But alas, I can never say any of that to them. Sigh.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:42:53am

If my Facebook timeline is any indication of what is out there as a whole, then the Trumpers still have not learned anything.

I mentioned months ago on Facebook that Trump was ant-science … and a Trumper had a hissyfit.

They just can’t accept that Trump is both ignorant and malicious, and that their following him is a bad thing.

Now they just incant religious statements of faith, instead of reconciling what is happening in the real world with their own intransigence of beliefs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:48:35am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If my Facebook timeline is any indication of what is out there as a whole, then the Trumpers still have not learned anything.

People who are attracted to follow him are often a lot like Trump in the sense that they are unable to back down and admit mistakes.

And yes, Trumpism will continue to be a force in politics, I am sure that right now the GOP heads are strategizing on how to best tap into it for upcoming elections.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:50:57am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People who are attracted to follow him are often a lot like Trump in the sense that they are unable to back down and admit mistakes.

And yes, Trumpism will continue to be a force in politics, I am sure that right now the GOP heads are strategizing on how to best tap into it for upcoming elections.

I just don’t understand this part of the human psyche. We all feel it to a degree; our success in life is largely based on how effectively we can counter this tendency. What’s confusing me is how people got to be this stubborn. It seems to be an anti-evolutionary trait; continuing to persist in the face of reality sounds like a fast ticket to an early death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 3:54:32am

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I just don’t understand this part of the human psyche. We all feel it to a degree; our success in life is largely based on how effectively we can counter this tendency. What’s confusing me is how people got to be this stubborn. It seems to be an anti-evolutionary trait; continuing to persist in the face of reality sounds like a fast ticket to an early death.

I have heard it explained in terms of evolution: that winning arguments was more important to us as social beings than assessing abstract ideas and theories, and that is how both our language and thinking developed

Which is why a slick rhetoricist beats a dry but competent scientist in our society to this day.

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Ming5000  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:06:40am

In case anyone is feeling the pull to attend a Thanksgiving party, just this once.

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Ming5000  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:20:12am

Because of the nihilism…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:24:10am

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I just don’t understand this part of the human psyche. We all feel it to a degree; our success in life is largely based on how effectively we can counter this tendency. What’s confusing me is how people got to be this stubborn. It seems to be an anti-evolutionary trait; continuing to persist in the face of reality sounds like a fast ticket to an early death.

If it tends to ossify that way after the people have reproduced it’s not an anti-evolutionary trait.

And from a social/community level such stubbornness can potentially carry some survival benefit for a village or tribe. (Not quite sure what that would be, but fanaticism can sometimes carry one through a crisis.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:28:01am

re: #222 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

If it tends to ossify that way after the people have reproduced it’s not an anti-evolutionary trait.

And from a social/community level such stubbornness can potentially carry some survival benefit for a village or tribe. (Not quite sure what that would be, but fanaticism can sometimes carry one through a crisis.)

When our survival depended on sticking together and working together through a basic crisis like predation by cave bears, a cold winter or a food shortage, then yes.

As for our long-term survival, it is a less beneficial trait.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:29:36am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When our survival depended on sticking together and working together through a basic crisis like predation by cave bears, a cold winter or a food shortage, then yes.

As for our long-term survival, it is a less beneficial trait.

Sort of then runs to who is putting who on the stone altar to pull their heart out in order to make the sun come back, doesn’t it?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:37:52am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:38:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:40:20am

re: #226 Patricia Kayden

Trying to predict how free citizens will vote was perhaps a bad idea.

which is why we hold elections, duh…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:46:52am

“We lost the election but we still beat your point spread!”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:47:08am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When our survival depended on sticking together and working together through a basic crisis like predation by cave bears, a cold winter or a food shortage, then yes.

As for our long-term survival, it is a less beneficial trait.

BBC pop-psychs got ‘ya:


Why It Pays to Be Grumpy and Bad-Tempered

…Then in 2009 Matthijs Baas from the University of Amsterdam decided to investigate. He recruited a group of willing students and set to work making them angry in the name of science. Half the students were asked to recall something which had irritated them and write a short essay about it. “This made them a bit angrier, though they weren’t quite driven to full-blown fits of rage,” he says. The other half of the group were made to feel sad.

Next the two teams were pitched against each other in a game designed to test their creativity. They had 16 minutes to think of as many ways as possible to improve education at the psychology department. As Baas expected, the angry team produced more ideas - at least to begin with. Their contributions were also more original, repeated by less than 1 percent of the study’s participants

getpocket.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:50:07am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Herd dynamics. Some need to stand out and lead, the rest need to blend in.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:50:24am

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I just don’t understand this part of the human psyche. We all feel it to a degree; our success in life is largely based on how effectively we can counter this tendency. What’s confusing me is how people got to be this stubborn. It seems to be an anti-evolutionary trait; continuing to persist in the face of reality sounds like a fast ticket to an early death.

They think “it” won’t happen to them
Or if it does they are tough enough to beat it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:51:14am

re: #231 dangerman

They think “it” won’t happen to them
Or if it does they are tough enough to beat it

they feel compelled to own the liberals by proving that it is overblown

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jeffreyw  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:52:30am

dinner date

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:52:56am

re: #226 Patricia Kayden

Trying to predict how free citizens will vote was perhaps a bad idea. nytimes.com

Which is why we are always “2 points behind”. It’s the safest fighting position with an unpredictable electorate and an uncontrollable opponent..

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:54:23am

re: #226 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Trying to predict is a good idea
Understanding their limitations is a better idea

Polls being more accurate and representative is an ongoing battle of
recognizing defects and adjusting

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Scout  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:56:05am

re: #226 Patricia Kayden

That guy said “Trying to predict how free citizens will vote was perhaps a bad idea.”

I would say it’s OK to try to predict. The bad idea is thinking the prediction will come true no matter what.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:56:42am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

Which is why we are always “2 points behind”. It’s the safest fighting position with an unpredictable electorate and an uncontrollable opponent..

Exactly
Imagine if we had coasted

With the polls being “wrong” and us not knowing it, 2 points down got us biden!

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:57:15am

re: #235 dangerman

Pollsters now have to figure in the dynamics of a relatively new Personality-driven national religious cult as part of their demographics. They never had to account for this before. Now they do.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:57:39am

1962

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:58:05am

re: #235 dangerman

Trying to predict is a good idea
Understanding their limitations is a better idea

Polls being more accurate and representative is an ongoing battle of
recognizing defects and adjusting

[Embedded content]

It’s mostly a matter of cost. Free polling data is worth what you pay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:58:37am

re: #238 Florida Panhandler

Pollsters now have to figure in the dynamics of a relatively new Personality-driven national religious cult as part of their demographics. They never had to account for this before. Now they do.

2020 was unprecedented, not just because of the pandemic and the share of write-in/absentee ballots, but because we had a desperate, criminal incumbent who would stop at nothing to avoid losing.

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Scout  Nov 13, 2020 • 4:59:02am

re: #235 dangerman

Trying to predict is a good idea
Understanding their limitations is a better idea

Polls being more accurate and representative is an ongoing battle of
recognizing defects and adjusting

[Embedded content]

Sorry. You said it better than I did.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:03:40am

Pollsters now have to develop questioning techniques in order to ascertain whether the respondent is a Qnut Trumpy mark or not. Asking directly “do you believe in Qnut conspiracies?” Is likely to gather very false data. Asking “do you believe lizard people people morphing into Democrats are Kidnapping your children for pedophiles around the world?” Is more likely to get an honest response.

This is America in 2020.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:04:53am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2020 was unprecedented, not just because of the pandemic and the share of write-in/absentee ballots, but because we had a desperate, criminal incumbent who would stop at nothing to avoid losing.

Hopefully under Biden we get some pushback towards everyone getting easier access to voting, longer early voting periods, and perhaps more states allowing mail-in voting as a default. The last will essentially kill exit polling I think.

I’d also hope to see states establish some common standards towards the deadlines and handling of absentee and mail-in ballots since the current mishmash can get very confusing. (And hard to explain in Discord in a political discussion with people from outside the US since you often simply have to answer “It varies from state to state.”)

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:06:42am

Africa takes on Covid (Trevor Noah)
because 1) they took it seriously from the beginning, and 2) they have experience with infectious diseases, and they’ve built an infrastructure to cope

cc.com

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:09:27am

re: #238 Florida Panhandler

Pollsters now have to figure in the dynamics of a relatively new Personality-driven national religious cult as part of their demographics. They never had to account for this before. Now they do.

Indeed. If it was simple polling error, polls would not be off by a consistent amount always in one direction. Something is different - whether it’s sampling, dishonesty, or something more sinister like changing vote totals after the fact, remains to be seen.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:14:01am

an exhaustive and calming explanation of what coup(d) and mostly coup(d’t) happen
(wont even take 5 minutes to reaD)

Stealing the Election Is Not Plausible

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:14:10am

re: #244 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hopefully under Biden we get some pushback towards everyone getting easier access to voting, longer early voting periods, and perhaps more states allowing mail-in voting as a default. The last will essentially kill exit polling I think.

I’d also hope to see states establish some common standards towards the deadlines and handling of absentee and mail-in ballots since the current mishmash can get very confusing. (And hard to explain in Discord in a political discussion with people from outside the US since you often simply have to answer “It varies from state to state.”)

If we stay here, or move 15 miles to the East, or 15 miles to the South, WIfe and I would face 3 different voting environments. Our votes would also have radically different values.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:14:22am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

BBC pop-psychs got ‘ya:


Why It Pays to Be Grumpy and Bad-Tempered

getpocket.com

JFC. That article.

I’m not buying much of what they said there. Especially the end bit about presidential speeches. It’s not like economies, outputs, employment turns on a dime. I think they’re a crucial step between the correlation that’s missing.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:15:12am

re: #247 dangerman

an exhaustive and calming explanation of what coup(d) and mostly coup(d’t) happen
(wont even take 5 minutes to reaD)

Stealing the Election Is Not Plausible

The existence of President Donald Trump was never plausible.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:15:22am

re: #242 Scout

Sorry. You said it better than I did.

actually, i thought you did ;-)

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:16:30am

re: #243 Florida Panhandler

Pollsters now have to develop questioning techniques in order to ascertain whether the respondent is a Qnut Trumpy mark or not. Asking directly “do you believe in Qnut conspiracies?” Is likely to gather very false data. Asking “do you believe lizard people people morphing into Democrats are Kidnapping your children for pedophiles around the world?” Is more likely to get an honest response.

This is America in 2020.

that and the further point is that polling cannot account for voters being tossed - ie effing up the USPS

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:16:41am

re: #249 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

JFC. That article.

I’m not buying much of what they said there. Especially the end bit about presidential speeches. It’s not like economies, outputs, employment turns on a dime. I think they’re a crucial step between the correlation that’s missing.

Pop-psych. There is probably some real research buried under it.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:17:14am

re: #245 sagehen

Africa takes on Covid (Trevor Noah)
because 1) they took it seriously from the beginning, and 2) they have experience with infectious diseases, and they’ve built an infrastructure to cope

cc.com

if only we had…

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:18:02am

re: #246 Renaissance_Man

Indeed. If it was simple polling error, ** polls would not be off by a consistent amount always in one direction. Something is different - whether it’s sampling, dishonesty, or something more sinister like changing vote totals after the fact, remains to be seen.

** all the polls would not be off by similar amounts

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:22:54am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2020 was unprecedented, not just because of the pandemic and the share of write-in/absentee ballots, but because we had a desperate, criminal incumbent who would stop at nothing to avoid losing.

I’d also hold off on the concept of actual numbers when not all ballots were delivered or counted.

It’s like being a Monday morning quarterback on Sunday morning… You just don’t have all the data.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:25:47am

re: #243 Florida Panhandler

Pollsters now have to develop questioning techniques in order to ascertain whether the respondent is a Qnut Trumpy mark or not. Asking directly “do you believe in Qnut conspiracies?” Is likely to gather very false data. Asking “do you believe lizard people people morphing into Democrats are Kidnapping your children for pedophiles around the world?” Is more likely to get an honest response.

This is America in 2020.

That was in the article, doing pre-poll questions to help determine the trust that person has in institutions in general (news, science, government, etc.) and then weighting those responses lower.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:27:35am

re: #244 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hopefully under Biden we get some pushback towards everyone getting easier access to voting, longer early voting periods, and perhaps more states allowing mail-in voting as a default. The last will essentially kill exit polling I think.

I’d also hope to see states establish some common standards towards the deadlines and handling of absentee and mail-in ballots since the current mishmash can get very confusing. (And hard to explain in Discord in a political discussion with people from outside the US since you often simply have to answer “It varies from state to state.”)

Never gonna happen in Republican held states. They don’t want Democrats voting and will do everything in their power to disenfranchise Democrats from voting.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:27:42am

re: #256 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’d also hold off on the concept of actual numbers when not all ballots were delivered or counted.

It’s like being a Monday morning quarterback on Sunday morning… You just don’t have all the data.

And your bookie insists you place your bet before Sunday noon.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:30:02am

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Pop-psych. There is probably some real research buried under it.

Psych research is really hard to do because it’s squishy. You can’t get hard numbers no matter what you do (and I majored in psych so I’m not knocking it).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:37:04am

Are we getting to the point were Trump is going to declare himself President-for-life and the GOP is going to go on networks and explain how that is within his purview?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:38:11am

re: #260 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Psych research is really hard to do because it’s squishy. You can’t get hard numbers no matter what you do (and I majored in psych so I’m not knocking it).

at best you can get “x persons said/agree with the following”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:38:38am
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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:38:59am

re: #261 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we getting to the point were Trump is going to declare himself President-for-life and the GOP is going to go on networks and explain how that is within his purview?

not a chance
he’s a coward

What’s Trump’s End Game

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:45:26am

well i was able to get to the mail box without needing boots or hip waders

water is way way down. just some low spots that will take a few more days to percolate down

meanwhile, in case you missed last evening, we made these then for today’s breakfast, which is imminent.

cinnamon donuts with cinnamon sugar glaze
(we test drove one for dessert after dinner)

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mmmirele  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:46:29am

re: #67 Belafon

What type of card readers did they have? I think it’s the readers charging it, not the card companies.

It’s (mostly) not the readers. Those are processing fees. The percentage fees come from the card companies, and the amount varies. Three percent is a lot (mostly on the American Express side of things), but not out of the ordinary. This is something that could change with a Biden administration. Many of these card fees are pure gravy because the infrastructure is in place. But it’s not free because there’s a LOT of fraud out there. (Good God, the fraud…and from my end, if the systems that detect fraud or track fraudulent claims go down, it’s a bad day.)

Here’s a detailed article from the Motley Fool on credit card processing fees.

fool.com

Back in 2009, in the wake of the financial crisis, banks talked about charging fees to use ATM cards at places that took them, including charging a fee for, say, getting $20 cash on top of your grocery bill. A lot of people complained. Yeah, I worked for the bank then as well, but I tucked my ATM card into a zippered part of my wallet so I wouldn’t accidentally take it out to pay for groceries or something. The banks backed down after a while and the fees never got implemented.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:51:32am

re: #261 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we getting to the point were Trump is going to declare himself President-for-life and the GOP is going to go on networks and explain how that is within his purview?

President-for-Life with the right to name is successor in perpetuity.

As compensation for all the injustices heaped on him in his first term.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 5:55:36am

re: #266 mmmirele

I thought processing fees were paid for by the stores offering the credit; Anymouse’s post seemed to indicate that there were fees on both ends, that the store was being charged a fee to offer credit and the consumer was being charged a fee to use it. That seems like an issue, if it’s meant to be the same processing fee.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:11:00am

NyT: “After Jan. 20, Mr. Trump, who has refused to concede and is fighting to hold onto his office, will be more vulnerable than ever to a pending grand jury investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into the president’s family business and its practices, as well as his taxes.”

I just figured out trump’s gambit

When he’s indicted, he’ll say you can’t I’m still the president //

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:12:24am

re: #270 dangerman

NyT: “After Jan. 20, Mr. Trump, who has refused to concede and is fighting to hold onto his office, will be more vulnerable than ever to a pending grand jury investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into the president’s family business and its practices, as well as his taxes.”

I just figured out trump’s gambit

When he’s indicted, he’ll say you can’t I’m still the president //

And Scotland said it would welcome am investigation into the trump properties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:14:37am

re: #270 dangerman

NyT: “After Jan. 20, Mr. Trump, who has refused to concede and is fighting to hold onto his office, will be more vulnerable than ever to a pending grand jury investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into the president’s family business and its practices, as well as his taxes.”

I just figured out trump’s gambit

When he’s indicted, he’ll say you can’t I’m still the president //

It won’t work.

But he has nothing personally to gain by conceding and nothing to lose by pretending he was robbed of an election by “massive Democrat voter fraud”.

He has a brand to look after, his future as a media pundit and speechifier on the circuit are all posited on him not being a “loser” but a victim of evil Deep State machinations that were plotted out in a pedophile pizza parlor basement.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:16:21am

When I paid my pitifully low property tax online, the credit card charge would have been 3%. Essentially the government pays the fee, but passes it on to us. I went with the debit card option, a flat fee of around 5 bucks.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:18:27am
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:22:14am

re: #261 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we getting to the point were Trump is going to declare himself President-for-life and the GOP is going to go on networks and explain how that is within his purview?

No, because there are Republicans calling for him to accept the results, and there are Senators saying it’s time for Biden to be getting intelligence briefings.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:23:07am

Asshole will not give it up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:23:13am

re: #273 BlueSpotinAL

When I paid my pitifully low property tax online, the credit card charge would have been 3%. Essentially the government pays the fee, but passes it on to us. I went with the debit card option, a flat fee of around 5 bucks.

I regularly pay all my bills and online purchases using a bank card and do not pay any fees per transaction. For that I pay an account maintenance fee of around €7 per quarter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:24:12am

re: #269 thedopefishlives

I thought processing fees were paid for by the stores offering the credit; Anymouse’s post seemed to indicate that there were fees on both ends, that the store was being charged a fee to offer credit and the consumer was being charged a fee to use it. That seems like an issue, if it’s meant to be the same processing fee.

It is an issue: They’re doing it because they can and it’s not against the law.

It’s not much different than when some airlines started charging for everything you brought on an aeroplane.

For the few people who used credit cards here, they’re killing off credit card business entirely. Even the gas stations here won’t take them now. Cash or cheque only.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:24:32am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

Asshole will not give it up.

An FB quote

“I did my own research!” = “I watched somebody else’s shitty Internet video!”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:25:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:26:29am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I regularly pay all my bills and online purchases using a bank card and do not pay any fees per transaction.

I pay no bills online and pay by mail with a cheque. If something goes wrong with the payment, I don’t have to spend endless days wrangling on-line with a soulless corporation trying to get the payment fixed, plus I have a paper receipt if they cash the cheque.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:26:38am

I fully expect Trump to try and pardon himself, not realizing doing so is an admission of guilt.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:27:44am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

Asshole will not give it up.

[Embedded content]

My beer bet for a Friday afternoon, if we make it.

This late afternoon or tomorrow, Trump will either grant the GSA permission to begin the transition process while complaining about a stolen election but to change the story he will fire Dr. Fauci and a whole bunch of other people at the same time.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:27:45am

i’m guessing no one else would go on TV and say it

“We’re moving forward here at the White House under the assumption that there will be a second Trump term… We think he won that election, and any speculation about what Joe Biden might do I think is moot at this point.”

— White House trade adviser Peter Navarro, interviewed on Fox Business.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:28:30am

alabama must be so proud they didnt elect Doug jones

Tommy Tuberville (R), who will soon be sworn in as a U.S. Senator from Alabama, told the Alabama Daily News that he thinks the three branches of government are “the House, the Senate and executive.”

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:31:08am

re: #264 dangerman

not a chance
he’s a coward

What’s Trump’s End Game

His final weeks in office will be akin to a smash and grab. He’s going to do as much damage as he can in the final weeks and try to slink off because his fragile ego is wrecked by the fact that he was repudiated in overwhelming fashion. The EC margin is the same as when he won, but he lost by more than 5 million votes (and the final tally will certainly be even higher than that).

The stench of failure is what will be Trump’s lasting legacy, along with taking the entire GOP into the sewer.

We’re going to be crossing 250,000 dead officially in the US within the next 48 hours. We’re adding more than 1,000 dead a day and that rate is accelerating.

Far from containing covid19, we’re watching it wash over the entire nation and Trump’s nowhere to be seen and his covid19 task force has all but ceased doing its job. Pence is MIA. Jared is MIA. All of them are bunker bitches who can’t be seen in public and refuse to do their jobs, and are blocking a smooth transition to boot.

Biden’s putting together a team of experts. It’s what’s needed, but it may be too late because Trump and the GOP have wrecked trust in public health officials and politicized masking/social distancing when that’s the thing that can save us from an even higher death toll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:31:18am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I pay no bills online and pay by mail with a cheque. If something goes wrong with the payment, I don’t have to spend endless days wrangling on-line with a soulless corporation trying to get the payment fixed, plus I have a paper receipt if they cash the cheque.

Paying by bank transfer is standard practice in this part of the world. Checks are all but unheard of except as cashier’s checks, or rather cheques…do you still write yours out in guineas and shillings?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:32:00am
With COVID-19 cases rising rapidly in the state, Gov. Pete Ricketts and local health officials say immediate measures are needed to slow the virus.

starherald.com

Well, Gov. Ricketts, it’s a good thing you won’t do the one thing every fookin’ doctor, nurse, hospital administrator, and public health official in the state says you need to do, because of your conservative faith in capitalism.

As COVID-19 cases continue to increase in Nebraska, Panhandle Public Health District officials and Gov. Pete Ricketts stressed that people need to take immediate measures to slow the spread of the virus.

On Thursday, Ricketts held a briefing on the coronavirus, which he has done each day this week. Panhandle Public Health District officials held the second of its biweekly calls on Thursday.

Ricketts said, “… I want to remind people that the pandemic is getting worse here in the state, that we have seen rising cases and hospitalizations.”

It is not just a case of growing cases in the Lincoln or Omaha area, he said, but also in places like Scottsbluff and North Platte. A New York Times list of hotspots in the country put Scotts Bluff County 12th on its list of hot spots.

Ricketts questioned the accuracy of data used by the New York Times in its reporting in response to questions during his press briefing, saying it was not official “state-sponsored data.” However, PPHD officials gave significance to the listing.

(more)

Because it goes against conservative religion, and heretics have to be discredited or destroyed in any religion.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:32:25am
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:37:14am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I pay no bills online and pay by mail with a cheque. If something goes wrong with the payment, I don’t have to spend endless days wrangling on-line with a soulless corporation trying to get the payment fixed, plus I have a paper receipt if they cash the cheque.

That’s why I was asking about the type of card reader. The readers issued by banks and card companies don’t generally charge fees, but some of the other models, like Square and some of the more computer looking types, charge an additional fee and sometimes I’ve had the people using it tell me they were going to charge me that.

If it’s a standard reader, though, the merchant may be trying to pass the fee the credit card company charges to you, and you can report that to the credit card companies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:37:24am

re: #289 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“We offer a full line of gas-powered, electric and putsch mowers!”

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:37:44am

re: #275 Belafon

No, because there are Republicans calling for him to accept the results, and there are Senators saying it’s time for Biden to be getting intelligence briefings.

And because it’s a pile of batshit bugnuts loonybird harebrained stupid

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:38:04am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Paying by bank transfer is standard practice in this part of the world. Checks are all but unheard of except as cashier’s checks, or rather cheques…do you still write yours out in guineas and shillings?

LOL.

We have been left behind in the early XX Century here. It’s why we still get paper catalogues for mail order (because on-line ordering is difficult to impossible here). Companies which will mail paper catalogues from here and take cheques or money orders get business here; those who won’t or can’t don’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:39:59am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:41:14am

re: #285 dangerman

alabama must be so proud they didnt elect Doug jones

Wait until Tuberville finds out the SEC isn’t the South-Eastern Conference.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:41:34am

re: #290 Belafon

That’s why I was asking about the type of card reader. The readers issued by banks and card companies don’t generally charge fees, but some of the other models, like Square and some of the more computer looking types, charge an additional fee and sometimes I’ve had the people using it tell me they were going to charge me that.

If it’s a standard reader, though, the merchant may be trying to pass the fee the credit card company charges to you, and you can report that to the credit card companies.

Considering the merchants here are disabling or pulling out their card readers, I suspect it’s either the card reader companies or the credit card companies themselves.

If you’re a too-big-to-fail credit card company, if you wanted to impose nationwide fees on using them, you could try a small test market and see if people will accept it. If you get massive pushback, you’ve only lost a small market.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:42:45am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

I fully expect Trump to try and pardon himself, not realizing doing so is an admission of guilt.

Scotus will tie itself in knots between plain text of the constitution and you can’t be judge in your own causere: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

I fully expect Trump to try and pardon himself, not realizing doing so is an admission of guilt.

Scotus will tie itself in knots between plain text of the constitution and you can’t be judge in your own cause

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:45:44am
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:46:24am

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m shoc… nope. It confirms what I suspected for a long time. The GOP don’t care about qualifications or character or judgment - they only care about name recognition and the appearance that these fuckers are representing “them”. Once in office, they’ll do what the GOP moneymakers insist they do, which is to further damage the institutions of government and shift tax burdens to those least able to endure them while maximizing the tax breaks to those in power.

Tuberville could never pass a college level political science intro class, let alone ever pass grade school civics. Heck, it’s clear he’s never seen Schoolhouse Rock and the way government works.

Tuberville was never qualified to run, and it’s clear he’s part of the modern GOP: don’t care about process, don’t care about the rule of law, and just spew nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind knowing that the GOP doesn’t care either.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:47:15am

When my wife and I went to Chicopee, Massachusetts, we found no bank ATM would take our ATM cards, because they don’t have chips in them. We did get a bank to negotiate one of our cheques so we could get some money though.

Since then the one of our two banks which uses ATM cards finally switched over to a chip-type card. (The other bank does not have ATMs and neither bank issues credit cards.)

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mmmirele  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:47:16am

re: #269 thedopefishlives

I thought processing fees were paid for by the stores offering the credit; Anymouse’s post seemed to indicate that there were fees on both ends, that the store was being charged a fee to offer credit and the consumer was being charged a fee to use it. That seems like an issue, if it’s meant to be the same processing fee.

The merchant is supposed to cover all the fees in its pricing. I believe part of the agreements to set up with a card processor and a bank is that you will not charge a higher price to card users. That said, (some) gas stations around here have cash and credit prices, so I don’t know how that works out. I have also seen companies that use PayPal to process payments charge 3 percent if the person chooses to use a credit card as opposed to cash from a linked checking or savings account. But PayPal is not exactly a credit processor, as opposed to say, Stripe, which is.

Let’s just say that the whole thing is crazy and the only part I really care about in my day to day is that all the fraud systems are up and running, because, as I said, if the fraud systems are down or slow, it is not a good day.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:47:51am

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well done, Alabama. You’ve elected a man who failed 3rd grade civics.

Give Tuberville a break. The 3 branches of government here are the NRA, the NCAA, and Bassmasters.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:48:32am
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:49:22am

re: #302 Decatur Deb

Give Tuberville a break. The 3 branches of government here are the NRA, the NCAA, and Bassmasters.

NRA, NASCAR, and NCAA.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:50:31am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We offer a full line of gas-powered, electric and putsch mowers!”

Funny the first time
Still funny

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:55:09am

re: #301 mmmirele

The merchant is supposed to cover all the fees in its pricing. I believe part of the agreements to set up with a card processor and a bank is that you will not charge a higher price to card users. That said, (some) gas stations around here have cash and credit prices***, so I don’t know how that works out. I have also seen companies that use PayPal to process payments charge 3 percent if the person chooses to use a credit card as opposed to cash from a linked checking or savings account. But PayPal is not exactly a credit processor, as opposed to say, Stripe, which is.

Let’s just say that the whole thing is crazy and the only part I really care about in my day to day is that all the fraud systems are up and running, because, as I said, if the fraud systems are down or slow, it is not a good day.

I’ve understood it’s this:
You can’t charge a fee for credit
You can give a discount for cash
Is how gas stations manage it

Maybe a distinction without a practical difference
It’s got something to do with how the law reads

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:58:02am

But he’ll continue to milk the rubes.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 6:59:13am

re: #301 mmmirele

The merchant is supposed to cover all the fees in its pricing. I believe part of the agreements to set up with a card processor and a bank is that you will not charge a higher price to card users. That said, (some) gas stations around here have cash and credit prices, so I don’t know how that works out. I have also seen companies that use PayPal to process payments charge 3 percent if the person chooses to use a credit card as opposed to cash from a linked checking or savings account. But PayPal is not exactly a credit processor, as opposed to say, Stripe, which is.

Let’s just say that the whole thing is crazy and the only part I really care about in my day to day is that all the fraud systems are up and running, because, as I said, if the fraud systems are down or slow, it is not a good day.

Cash vs. credit at a gas station is usually seen on diesel prices, and is generally used to indicate buying on company credit vs. consumer credit, as I understand it.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:00:37am

re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But he’ll continue to milk the rubes.

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Think she’s wrong there - one of his most salient features, possibly the only thing you could construe as a positive, is that he always tries again no matter how big his failure. Casinos, real estate, whatever - as long as he finds new backers and new people to grift, he comes back as if he never failed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:03:05am

Trump will be desperate for attention, and money.

Having his own show (with subservient co-hosts) on his own network could gain him hundreds of millions of dollars.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:03:35am

Coming across the wires; an explosion at a VA hospital in West Haven Connecticut. Multiple casualties reported. Early report indicates that it may be a steam explosion in a non-patient area of the facility.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:03:42am

re: #309 Renaissance_Man

Think she’s wrong there - one of his most salient features, possibly the only thing you could construe as a positive, is that he always tries again no matter how big his failure. Casinos, real estate, whatever - as long as he finds new backers and new people to grift, he comes back as if he never failed.

And he cannot imagine himself not winning

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:03:56am

Facebook won’t remove them because of libertarian free speech (and money).

Omaha anti-mask group behind billboards is growing, co-founder says (Omaha World-Herald)

An Omaha group that opposes masks funded two short-lived billboards in the Millard area and informally made plans for a protest this weekend at a southwest Omaha Hy-Vee.

But the billboards have been taken down and a co-founder of the group said he is discouraging the members from participating in the Hy-Vee event.

Kelly Jensen, a self-employed businessman who splits his time between Lincoln and Omaha, said both No Mask Omaha and No Mask Lincoln have seen a surge in support in recent days.

Some members of the group had planned to shop together without masks Saturday at an Omaha Hy-Vee.

Thursday, the grocery chain said it is working with the Omaha Police Department to block the protest.

(more)

Moar arrests, please.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:05:37am

re: #309 Renaissance_Man

Think she’s wrong there - one of his most salient features, possibly the only thing you could construe as a positive, is that he always tries again no matter how big his failure. Casinos, real estate, whatever - as long as he finds new backers and new people to grift, he comes back as if he never failed.

But this is a very public defeat. I think that’s different.

This pathology article is something.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:05:42am

Trump has many allies in the upper levels of television.

I suspect Trump is working right now in lining up backing for a new media enterprise.

Trump could easily find a market in at least half the cable companies in this country.

Perhaps Trump works with OAN to rebrand it the Trump All-American Network?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:08:19am

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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He did “kinda” get 2 out of 3 right. He just split the legislative up. And how could he have forgotten the judicial since that is all his cronies have spent the last 4 years packing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:10:42am

re: #311 lawhawk

Coming across the wires; an explosion at a VA hospital in West Haven Connecticut. Multiple casualties reported. Early report indicates that it may be a steam explosion in a non-patient area of the facility.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:12:54am

re: #311 lawhawk

Coming across the wires; an explosion at a VA hospital in West Haven Connecticut. Multiple casualties reported. Early report indicates that it may be a steam explosion in a non-patient area of the facility.

Set an egg-timer for a tweet from the one-termer blaming this on Obama.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:13:54am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:14:38am

Trump tweets while ignoring duties of his office

On Thursday, six American service members were killed in a helicopter crash during a peacekeeping mission in Egypt. Tropical Storm Eta made landfall in North Florida, contributing to severe flooding. The number of Americans infected with the novel coronavirus continued at a record-setting pace, sending the stock market tumbling.

At the White House, President Donald Trump spent the day as he has most others this week - sequestered from public view, tweeting grievances, falsehoods and misinformation about the election results and about Fox News’s coverage of him.

Enough said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:16:08am

re: #309 Renaissance_Man

Think she’s wrong there - one of his most salient features, possibly the only thing you could construe as a positive, is that he always tries again no matter how big his failure. Casinos, real estate, whatever - as long as he finds new backers and new people to grift, he comes back as if he never failed.

Because in his mind, he did not lose, he was cheated. Heck, he believes he would’ve won the popular vote as well in 2016 if not for massive “voter fraud”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:16:55am

I feel like taking a nap

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:17:16am

re: #315 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trump has many allies in the upper levels of television.

I suspect Trump is working right now in lining up backing for a new media enterprise.

Trump could easily find a market in at least half the cable companies in this country.

Perhaps Trump works with OAN to rebrand it the Trump All-American Network?

More likely he does a subscription streaming channel, building on the Trump TV model they used during the election. The one that Lara Trump was doing daily updates on.

He could hit the ground running with it since they already have a handle on how to do it, and it would generate money from the rubes right away instead of costing time and money to get a cable channel off the ground. Even if he tried to buy into OAN it would take a while, and Trump needs money right away.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:19:34am

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Par for the course.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:19:50am

And on the possibility of rallies, there’s this.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:20:22am

Remember her?

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:20:43am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:21:09am

re: #324 Patricia Kayden

Par for the course.

Might as well write a piece about water being wet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:23:13am

re: #325 makeitstop

And on the possibility of rallies, there’s this.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:23:28am

re: #316 Eventual Carrion

He did “kinda” get 2 out of 3 right. He just split the legislative up. And how could he have forgotten the judicial since that is all his cronies have spent the last 4 years packing.

sorry, he’s a fucking senator (elect)
there’s no partial credit

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:23:36am

rawstory.com

Jared and Ivanka will face a ‘rude awakening’ when they return to NYC: report

Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

They’re gonna hide out at Mar-A-Lardo with Daddy and when AG Tish gets the indictments DeSADIST will block their extradition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:25:59am

re: #316 Eventual Carrion

He did “kinda” get 2 out of 3 right. He just split the legislative up. And how could he have forgotten the judicial since that is all his cronies have spent the last 4 years packing.

Sort of like when I asked my totally areligiously-raised ex-wife about the Holy Trinity.

“Jesus, Mary and Joseph?” she replied.

I told her that she got one of them right and Catholics might give at least partial credit for another…

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:26:24am

re: #331 🌹UOJB!

rawstory.com

Jared and Ivanka will face a ‘rude awakening’ when they return to NYC: report

Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

They’re gonna hide out at Mar-A-Lardo with Daddy and when AG Tish gets the indictments DeSADIST will block their extradition.

Yeah, they must have realized by now that NYC is going to be hostile territory right now.

And they might think that they can let things cool down for a while and then come back, but New Yorkers have long memories. They can wait ten years, and waiters will still spit in their food when they come back.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:30:12am

re: #333 makeitstop

To say nothing of the fact real estate can’t simply move out of NY.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:31:24am

re: #333 makeitstop

Yeah, they must have realized by now that NYC is going to be hostile territory right now.

And they might think that they can let things cool down for a while and then come back, but New Yorkers have long memories. They can wait ten years, and waiters will still spit in their food when they come back.

I want an indicted Shithead to hide in Mar-A-Lardo shielded by DeSADIST, get cabin fever to the point that he has a rally in Pennsylvania, Governor Wolf arrests and extradites his fat ass to New York where AG Tish can but bongo his ass blood red!

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:32:42am

re: #303 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Soon Putin and his henchmen hackers will have all the access they need to all our secure systems. No need to have tRump and family remember all salient defense points to tell them when you can just access and read them on your own.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:33:37am

re: #331 🌹UOJB!

rawstory.com

Jared and Ivanka will face a ‘rude awakening’ when they return to NYC: report

Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

They’re gonna hide out at Mar-A-Lardo with Daddy and when AG Tish gets the indictments DeSADIST will block their extradition.

If he refuses to come to New York give him a trial in absentia and seize his assets to pay fines if he’s found guilty.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:35:47am

re: #337 jamesfirecat

If he refuses to come to New York give him a trial in absentia and seize his assets to pay fines if he’s found guilty.

Let that happen and Trump pulls an OJ to shield Mar-A-Lardo. And I will really LOVE those fucking Pulpit Pimp Preachers endlessly justify St. Trump the way they deified Pruneface Reagan!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:37:52am

re: #338 🌹UOJB!

Let that happen and Trump pulls an OJ to shield Mar-A-Lardo. And I will really LOVE those fucking Pulpit Pimp Preachers endlessly justify St. Trump the way they deified Pruneface Reagan!

whose wife employed a White House Astrologer

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:43:36am

Gorka and others trying to get Trump to do more rallies, while in the real world…

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:43:52am

Well this sounds like it’s gonna be a real party…

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:45:14am

re: #341 makeitstop

Gorka was an administration official? He never got into the administration. He was named, but failed to pass his security clearances.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:45:36am

re: #323 makeitstop

While a subscription channel is a definite likely, beyond that a regular cable-TV show or block of hours on a cable-TV to promote the subscription channel and the merch is even better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:46:07am

re: #341 makeitstop

Here’s who speaking at the March for Trump Saturday afternoon. For what it’s worth, Kelly won his race by 34 points. Gosar by 32. Greene by 50. All allege that massive voter fraud was perpetrated against Trump in their states.

…just goes to show how nefarious these Soros minions are…they let the lower-tier GOP candidates win while only stealing votes from Trump.

right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:46:52am

re: #341 makeitstop

Well this sounds like it’s gonna be a real party…

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Pretty much every down ballot Republican here is crying fraud except Daniel Cade who lost to Senator Warner. The Va GOP is a mess and its few relatively sane people left include the Bigfoot guy, Denver Riggleman who got primaried for not being totally nuts has talked about running third party for Governor next year .

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:48:57am

re: #343 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

While a subscription channel is a definite likely, beyond that a regular cable-TV show or block of hours on a cable-TV to promote the subscription channel and the merch is even better.

Yes, but it’ll take a while, and won’t address Trump’s need to raise money now.

A scrip channel will at least be a stopgap, and if it generates enough money they may just stay with it.

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stpaulbear  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:49:30am

New story at the WaPo:

More than 130 Secret Service officers who help protect the White House and the president when he travels have recently been ordered to isolate or quarantine because they tested positive for the coronavirus or had close contact with infected co-workers, according to three people familiar with agency staffing.

The spread of the coronavirus — which has sidelined roughly 10 percent of the agency’s core security team — is believed to be partly linked to a series of campaign rallies that President Trump held in the weeks before the Nov. 3 election, according to the people, who, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the situation.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:49:53am

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:50:15am

re: #342 lawhawk

Gorka was an administration official? He never got into the administration. He was named, but failed to pass his security clearances.

Wonder what happened with his VOA scheme. Nothing says VOA like a guy who looks and sounds like a Bond villain.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:50:45am

The pandemic is out of control but sure, let’s do more fucking rallies because why the hell not?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:51:19am

re: #346 makeitstop

Yes, but it’ll take a while, and won’t address Trump’s need to raise money now.

Ah, but this is where networks like CBN or Trinity comes in. Trump could have a show up and running within a week of leaving office, those companies will pay the production costs as well as doing the regular production.

Subscription services are complex.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:52:10am

re: #348 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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Right wing hack who owes his relevance to Steve Bannon can go fuck himself and get denied a wedding cake.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:53:28am

Sinclair could easily produce a Trump show and have it on all their channels nationwide, an over-the-air pool of marks just waiting their for Trump.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:55:10am

re: #348 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:55:24am

re: #348 lawhawk

Major law firm did the math, realized that defending Trump with frivolous lawsuits that have zero chance of success is bad for business, dropped him.

Or the firm demanded money up front and Trump was not paying…

They would be foolish to do business with him on any other basis, especially these days

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:56:12am

I’m not even sure Trump is forbidden by Comcast execs.

Can you imagine the ratings numbers for The Apprentice if Trump returns to that show??

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:57:18am

re: #323 makeitstop

More likely he does a subscription streaming channel, building on the Trump TV model they used during the election. The one that Lara Trump was doing daily updates on.

He could hit the ground running with it since they already have a handle on how to do it, and it would generate money from the rubes right away instead of costing time and money to get a cable channel off the ground. Even if he tried to buy into OAN it would take a while, and Trump needs money right away.

On the other hand, how well did Sarah TV do for Sarah Palin? Oh right, it turned into a giant grift and the marks lost their money when she shut it down.

It would not surprise me if Donald Trump did the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:57:48am

re: #356 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m not even sure Trump is forbidden by Comcast execs.

Can you imagine the ratings numbers for The Apprentice if Trump returns to that show??

Trump would be upset that he was not allowed to just constantly fire everybody like he did in the White House…

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JC1  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:57:49am

re: #331 🌹UOJB!

rawstory.com

Jared and Ivanka will face a ‘rude awakening’ when they return to NYC: report

Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

They’re gonna hide out at Mar-A-Lardo with Daddy and when AG Tish gets the indictments DeSADIST will block their extradition.

I’m cynical enough to think that after 6 months or so, they’ll be welcomed back to NYC’s high society with open arms. Politics is just like wrestling to much of that crowd.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:59:10am

re: #348 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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It’s also, at some point, how a functioning judiciary should work, otherwise, you would just have a few people gumming up the system with pointless suits.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:59:46am

re: #342 lawhawk

Gorka was an administration official? He never got into the administration. He was named, but failed to pass his security clearances.

Just pesky facts. “We make our own reality!”

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:59:50am

Who else is waiting for the Jon Voight Hour of Stupid, Kid Rock’s White Power Hour and Ted Nugent’s Hate-0-Rama on Trump TV?

Oh and don’t forget all those commercials for My Pillow, Trumpy Bear and catheters!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:59:52am

re: #325 makeitstop

And on the possibility of rallies, there’s this.

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This should be interesting.

More than 130 Secret Service officers who help protect the White House and the president when he travels have recently been ordered to isolate or quarantine because they tested positive for the coronavirus or had close contact with infected co-workers, according to three people familiar with agency staffing.

Read in The Washington Post: apple.news

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 7:59:57am

Carter: leaves office, gets involved in charity - works with Habitat for Humanity and builds thousands of homes for people in the US and worldwide.
Clinton: leaves office, founds Clinton Foundation to help people
Obama: leave office, founds foundation to help people and give leadership guidance to persons of color in particular.

GHWB/GWB: create a charity, work with people (Look to the Stars).

GWHB/Clinton - worked together in Katrina recovery relief efforts. Charity effort in wake of Haiti quake.

Trump: leaves office, seeks to grift and enrich himself while avoiding lawsuits and prosecution. Can’t run a charity because he was caught scamming with his last personal charity - family can’t run charity because they stole money from charity.

One thing is so not like the others.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:00:30am

re: #348 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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The law firm probably saw where they weren’t going to get paid.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:00:52am

Trump got 72.6 million votes, vastly more than any other Republican.

Trump can draw numbers.

The doors are wide open for Trump after he leaves office.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:02:32am

re: #351 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ah, but this is where networks like CBN or Trinity comes in. Trump could have a show up and running within a week of leaving office, those companies will pay the production costs as well as doing the regular production.

Subscription services are complex.

Good point there.

I wonder if Trump would be averse to going full-on Aimee Semple McPherson on an evangelical channel? I mean, he already took on the role of a successful businessman on The Apprentice. :)

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:02:52am

re: #354 🌹UOJB!

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Lawyer: There were more people voting than usual, and we think that’s suspicious.
Judge: Did you ask the people if they voted?
Lawyer:
Judge: Considering you’re CURRENTLY allowed to be a lawyer in this court, did you ask people if they voted?
Lawyer: No, we did not.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:05:15am

re: #354 🌹UOJB!

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Discovery is not a fishing expedition. If you are relying on discovery to make your case to the judge, you’re doing it wrong. You need to have enough evidence to go to a judge and say, “This is pretty good proof, but the defendants have even more proof that will put this case away, if you let us do discovery on them.”

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:06:30am

re: #359 JC1

I’m cynical enough to think that after 6 months or so, they’ll be welcomed back to NYC’s high society with open arms. Politics is just like wrestling to much of that crowd.

Yeah, but Javanka got entree into that world because they were young and good-looking, and put up a facade of being different from the old man.

Now? Everybody knows just how fucked up they really are, and they just aren’t as physically attractive as they used to be. They’re gonna have a hard row to hoe with NY society.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:07:37am

re: #367 makeitstop

Good point there.

I wonder if Trump would be averse to going full-on Aimee Semple McPherson on an evangelical channel? I mean, he already took on the role of a successful businessman on The Apprentice. :)

I would not be surprised if Trump says he found Jesus and he starts a ministry. Watch Trump strut on the church stage and the marks throw money at him like he’s a top rank stripper. Hell the motherfather already talks in tongues!

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:08:53am

re: #362 🌹UOJB!

Who else is waiting for the Jon Voight Hour of Stupid, Kid Rock’s White Power Hour and Ted Nugent’s Hate-0-Rama on Trump TV?

Oh and don’t forget all those commercials for My Pillow, Trumpy Bear and catheters!

And reverse mortgages.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:11:36am

re: #367 makeitstop

I think it more likely that Trump’s show would be an America Is For God type of talk show. Some smiling young thing playing the part of a mindless interlocutor, and Trump going on 15 minute rants.

These fundamentalist networks are already full of hyper-nationalism.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:13:09am

re: #233 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:14:13am

re: #359 JC1

I’m cynical enough to think that after 6 months or so, they’ll be welcomed back to NYC’s high society with open arms. Politics is just like wrestling to much of that crowd.

NO F WAY. They are going to get jeers whenever they appear. A few rich assholes will accept them, but NYC is going to be pissed at the trumps forever.

Also, as time goes by, more and more info is going to come out about Jarad’s self dealing. It may take awhile, but he’s going to have legal and PR problems.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:14:37am
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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:17:03am
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sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:17:41am

re: #333 makeitstop

Yeah, they must have realized by now that NYC is going to be hostile territory right now.

And they might think that they can let things cool down for a while and then come back, but New Yorkers have long memories. They can wait ten years, and waiters will still spit in their food when they come back.

I think I might have mentioned this before, but…

the reason he eats so much McDonald’s and KFC is because if he sends someone to pick it up for him, the fry cooks and counter staff don’t know it’s his, that’s the only way to avoid all his food getting spit on.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:19:46am

re: #376 jaunte

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I mean I hate to stereotype a state but come the fuck on Alabama. Oh well. I think Doug Jones will be back in Washington in some way.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:23:21am

re: #348 lawhawk

Ben Shapiro yo…. he’s for the free market, until it runs against what the Trumpists want, which is to steal an election, gum up the judiciary with frivolous lawsuits, and spread noxious conspiracy theories. It’s at that point that Shapiro thinks that something is wrong because a law firm does the math and realizes that it’s bad for business to spew frivolous lawsuits at behest of Trump to try and steal an election or at least delegitimize the incoming admin.

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Major law firms don’t give a fuck about “crowdsourced lefty outrage.” They care A LOT about major corporate clients who tell them “him or us, pals, can’t have both, we don’t want to be represented by a firm that’s getting a reputation for frivolous evidence-free lawsuits that piss off judges.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:24:13am

Please forgive me. This is infuriating. You either do the right thing or you don’t. There is no middle ground. Stigma? Fuck.

The only thing I can agree with is the fear of having no income. If we had a functioning Government this wouldn’t be an issue because they would subsidize where needed to stop the spread.

But just socializing? Christ.

Read this thread.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:24:53am

re: #380 sagehen

Major law firms don’t give a fuck about “crowdsourced lefty outrage.” They care A LOT about major corporate clients who tell them “him or us, pals, can’t have both, we don’t want to be represented by a firm that’s getting a reputation for frivolous evidence-free lawsuits that piss off judges.”

So they’re talking about the market, the thing Ben insists he understands better than liberals. I feel embarrassed for anyone who looks at him as a great intellect. He’s not Charlie Kirk stupid but he’s plenty ignorant.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:26:12am

Trump’s leaving us weaker and enabling Russian aggression.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:26:21am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:28:18am

re: #383 lawhawk

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Trump’s leaving us weaker and enabling Russian aggression.

Meanwhile Orange Nero is purging the Defense department and tweeting bs.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:28:42am

re: #364 lawhawk

Carter: leaves office, gets involved in charity - works with Habitat for Humanity and builds thousands of homes for people in the US and worldwide.
Clinton: leaves office, founds Clinton Foundation to help people
Obama: leave office, founds foundation to help people and give leadership guidance to persons of color in particular.

GHWB/GWB: create a charity, work with people (Look to the Stars).

GWHB/Clinton - worked together in Katrina recovery relief efforts. Charity effort in wake of Haiti quake.

Trump: leaves office, seeks to grift and enrich himself while avoiding lawsuits and prosecution. Can’t run a charity because he was caught scamming with his last personal charity - family can’t run charity because they stole money from charity.

One thing is so not like the others.

Carter is also trying to eradicate the Guinea Worm.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:30:46am

re: #386 sagehen

Carter is also trying to eradicate the Guinea Worm.

Carter is amazing. Just keeps on going. 96, survived cancer, & more involved than ever. Him and Roslyn I think have their 75th anniversary next spring.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:32:59am

re: #387 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Carter is amazing. Just keeps on going. 96, survived cancer, & more involved than ever. Him and Roslyn I think have their 75th anniversary next spring.

I hope Jimmy lives past 100 so we can give him a grand celebration when he reaches 100. He deserves it after all the abuse he had to take.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:35:19am

re: #388 🌹UOJB!

I hope Jimmy lives past 100 so we can give him a grand celebration when he reaches 100. He deserves it after all the abuse he had to take.

Yeah he deserves to be celebrated after years as being the favorite GOP punchline. My Dad’s first vote for potus was for Jimmy. He’s always proud to tell me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:35:58am

re: #377 retired cynic

This is the best thing I have ever seen.

Lion is just waiting for them to bring the buns and relish…

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:36:44am

re: #389 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah he deserves to be celebrated after years as being the favorite GOP punchline. My Dad’s first vote for potus was for Jimmy. He’s always proud to tell me.

NEVER will forgive the Republicans making Jimmy sell his farm because it was a “conflict of interest” yet when it comes to the pile of shit in the Oval Office it’s pass after pass as they kiss Trump’s ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:37:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:40:29am

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

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He’s never going to stfu is he?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:41:14am

re: #393 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s never going to stfu is he?

Nope.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:43:04am

re: #394 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nope.

At least it won’t be as Potus starting 1/20.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:43:38am

re: #393 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s never going to stfu is he?

If/when he goes to prison, we’ll all finally get peace and quiet because you can’t tweet from behind bars.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:44:52am

re: #396 lawhawk

If/when he goes to prison, we’ll all finally get peace and quiet because you can’t tweet from behind bars.

Can’t come soon enough.

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Teukka  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:45:44am

The perils of going up against reality as it was a “lib” lie…
“[Truth] is always there, whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not.
The truth doesn’t care about our needs or wants.
It doesn’t care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions.
It will lie in wait for all time.”
- Craig Mazin, HBO’s “Chernobyl”, E05 (“Vichnaya Pamyat”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:47:45am

re: #381 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Please forgive me. This is infuriating. You either do the right thing or you don’t. There is no middle ground. Stigma? Fuck.

The only thing I can agree with is the fear of having no income. If we had a functioning Government this wouldn’t be an issue because they would subsidize where needed to stop the spread.

But just socializing? Christ.

Read this thread.

The Western Nebraska Observer (Kimball’s newspaper) did a recent article about a woman who when she and her brother were teenagers, her brother (a high school football player) contracted polio and died from it.

That was written up at the time in the Sidney Telegraph, and immediately the whole family was shunned. They got death threats. People threatened to burn down their home. Merchants refused to do business with them. They moved away to Colorado where people didn’t know them.

The Western Nebraska Observer spent weeks tracking her down from the old Sidney paper’s articles about them at the time so they could get her take on Covid-19 and how stigma is playing out now.

Stigma is real (as every disabled person or atheist can tell you).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:49:09am

Trump is the pinnacle of masculinity and liberals are Betacucks.//

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:49:41am

re: #398 Teukka

“[Truth] is always there, whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not.
The truth doesn’t care about our needs or wants.
It doesn’t care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions.
It will lie in wait for all time.”
- Craig Mazin, HBO’s “Chernobyl”, E05 (“Vichnaya Pamyat”)
The perils of going up against reality as it was a “lib” lie…

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Until sometime big (in GOP circles) dies it’s pointless. If some big donor dies it’s same old same old.

And no, Herman Cain doesn’t count.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:50:06am

re: #395 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

At least it won’t be as Potus starting 1/20.

Just for you—a Jen O’Malley Dillon article from the Boston Globe.

bostonglobe.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:51:06am

re: #399 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Western Nebraska Observer (Kimball’s newspaper) did a recent article about a woman who when she and her brother were teenagers, her brother (a high school football player) contracted polio and died from it.

That was written up at the time in the Sidney Telegraph, and immediately the whole family was shunned. They got death threats. People threatened to burn down their home. Merchants refused to do business with them. They moved away to Colorado where people didn’t know them.

The Western Nebraska Observer spent weeks tracking her down from the old Sidney paper’s articles about them at the time so they could get her take on Covid-19 and how stigma is playing out now.

Stigma is real (as every disabled person or atheist can tell you).

That’s heartbreaking. I hate people.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:52:18am

re: #401 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Until sometime big (in GOP circles) dies it’s pointless. If some big donor dies it’s same old same old.

And no, Herman Cain doesn’t count.

He’s only 3/5ths GOP.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:52:30am
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Jay C  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:53:28am

re: #383 lawhawk

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Trump’s leaving us weaker and enabling Russian aggression.

Yes: what a surprise! Global warming (which conservatives and Republicans have been dismissing for decades as a hoax) is freeing up hitherto-frozen-over Arctic waters - and the Russians are using the opportunity to polish up their high-latitude military/naval skills. Shocker.
Though reading through the linked NYT piece, it’s not quite a Red Dawn scenario: these fishermen were in “international waters” - economic rights notwithstanding - the Russians had, under current laws, the *right* to stage maneuvers there: but of course, being Russian, they just HAD to be dicks about it.
Of course, Arctic affairs in general are going to become more important (barring a climate turn back to perma-freeze), but outside of the inane “Trump wants to buy Greenland” flap in 2018(?) , I can’t recall seeing much news about anything substantive we (US, Canada, NATO) might be doing re maritime security issues in those “high latitudes”.
Oh well, just another thing the Biden Admin will have to put on the agenda…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:54:15am

re: #402 BeachDem

Just for you—a Jen O’Malley Dillon article from the Boston Globe.

bostonglobe.com

The Conneacht and also a Beto connection:). She’s awesome. I actually saw her and Martin O’Malley on a thing the O’Malley tribe did in Ireland about the O’Malleys. Going back to Gráinne, we have always had tough women in that clan including my GGG Nana Biddy.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:55:03am

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:56:31am

re: #401 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Until sometime big (in GOP circles) dies it’s pointless. If some big donor dies it’s same old same old.

And no, Herman Cain doesn’t count.

Oh I remember how Pruneface and his stooge Koop initially said AIDS was God’s revenge on gays…until Rock Hudson died from it...oh and I will NEVER forgive Mommy Pruneface for the way she treated Rock Hudson as he was dying.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:56:55am

re: #400 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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this is odd
if he won, why would he possibly feel humiliated?

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:57:19am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That’s not entirely accurate.

DeBlasio said that if the positivity rate crosses 3%, expect schools to close as soon as Monday. That’s not a given. People need to expect that remote learning will be coming to NYC.

I think it’s inevitable here. I think definitely by Thanksgiving it’ll be all remote, and the earliest we see hybrid/blended learning is sometime mid-January.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:57:48am

MLB has its first female GM, Kim Ng. People in the know have said she’s a name that should be looked at for years.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 8:59:06am

re: #412 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

MLB has its first female GM, Kim Ng. People in the know have said she’s a name that should be looked at for years.

I wonder if Alito will gripe about it.

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gwangung  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:00:28am

re: #412 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

MLB has its first female GM, Kim Ng. People in the know have said she’s a name that should be looked at for years.

HURRAH!

I was hoping this for YEARS (over a decade).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:00:36am

re: #403 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s heartbreaking. I hate people.

I found the article. The lead paragraphs:

The front page of the February 20, 1953 issue of the Sidney Telegraph read: “Potter Child Polio Victim”. The article began: “Cheyenne county’s first polio fatality of 1953 was a 14-year-old boy from Potter who, during the first few days of his illness, gave every indication of having the flu which has been so prevalent in this area.”

The disease, which took the life of the 14-year old youth and afflicted many other area residents in a variety of ways, was poliomyelitis. Poliomyelitis, more commonly known as infantile polio was named because it generally attacked young children and youth in their prime. The effects of the disease had a broad range, many people were not even aware that they were infected. They had few if any symptoms, meanwhile they spread the disease. Others suffered paralysis or even death. Individuals, families, and communities across the country had to face and learn to deal with the devastating emotional, physical, social and financial effects of polio.

The small town of Potter, Nebraska in the panhandle was no different than the rest of the country in 1953, when two young residents and their families were forced to deal directly with polio and its aftermath. These two cases represented both ends of the spectrum of polio in the 1950s, one resulted in a very quick death and the other exhibiting a long slow recovery.

(more)

Another Time, Another Virus (Western Nebraska Observer)

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Jay C  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:00:54am

re: #388 🌹UOJB!

I hope Jimmy lives past 100 so we can give him a grand celebration when he reaches 100. He deserves it after all the abuse he had to take.

Jimmy’s centenary (which I hope he will be around to appreciate) will be October 1, 2024: so there’s a good chance that that congratulatory “telegram from the President” will be from Joe Biden.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:01:37am

re: #398 Teukka

I repeat her money quote:

“I thought we’d never get it,” Liz Uihlein, an outspoken critic of COVID-19 restrictions, told Uline employees.

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Jay C  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:02:19am

re: #408 dangerman

i didnt know you could make a pretzel in that shape

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Republican “logic”. It can make a Moebius Strip seem hard-edged….

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:02:38am

re: #413 Belafon

I wonder if Alito will gripe about it.

Probably. He’s a bitter guy.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:03:31am

re: #411 lawhawk

That’s not entirely accurate.

DeBlasio said that if the positivity rate crosses 3%, expect schools to close as soon as Monday. That’s not a given. People need to expect that remote learning will be coming to NYC.

I think it’s inevitable here. I think definitely by Thanksgiving it’ll be all remote, and the earliest we see hybrid/blended learning is sometime mid-January.

also there’s nothing wrong with trying something that isnt totally nuts, seeing the results, and then altering course. it’s called learning.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:04:12am

re: #414 gwangung

HURRAH!

I was hoping this for YEARS (over a decade).

Yeah I’ve seen her name for years now. Props to her. I’m sure she’ll do a great job.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:06:38am

re: #417 dangerman

Because she is so wrapped in money bad things don’t happen to her. She isn’t worried about her next meal, a roof over her head, if her car will start in the morning, if her unemployment or temp job are going to disappear, and certainly not the cost of medical care bankrupting her. So of course she didn’t think it could happen to her. And her buddy Trump had it and “recovered” so why would she even give it a thought? That shit right there needs to be thrown in this asshole’s face for the rest of her life. I wouldn’t throw an ice cube at her if she was on fire. I am SICK of these fucking people.

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steve_davis  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:06:46am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is an issue: They’re doing it because they can and it’s not against the law.

It’s not much different than when some airlines started charging for everything you brought on an aeroplane.

For the few people who used credit cards here, they’re killing off credit card business entirely. Even the gas stations here won’t take them now. Cash or cheque only.

yeah, my favorite pizza place tried to add 3% to a takeout order when I picked it up. I just refused the pizzas. I order from there much more rarely now, and I pay cash. I assume stores are already charging me the mark-up for credit card purchases. I’m not paying more mark-up.

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steve_davis  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:07:39am

re: #285 dangerman

alabama must be so proud they didnt elect Doug jones

alabama pretty much deserves what they mostly get.

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Teukka  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:08:16am

re: #417 dangerman

I repeat her money quote:

“I thought we’d never get it,” Liz Uihlein, an outspoken critic of COVID-19 restrictions, told Uline employees.

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“It’s the cost of lies.
When people choose to lie, and when everyone engages in a very passive conspiracy to promote the lie, we can get away with it for a very long time.
But the truth just doesn’t care.
And it will get you.”

- Craig Mazin “The Chernobyl Podcast” (in connection with HBO’s 2019 Miniseries “Chernobyl”)

SARS-CoV-2 does not give a fuck.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:12:49am

re: #424 steve_davis

alabama pretty much deserves what they mostly get.

Which would be somewhat fine if it were confined to Alabama, and only to those that voted for him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:16:25am

re: #424 steve_davis

alabama pretty much deserves what they mostly get.

You hate to say that really because there are good people who get stuck with it. But honest to God, we fought socialism in WWII and the three brakes of government are the House, Senate & Executive.

I’m just embarrassed for that.

I’m not sure what will break republican hold on some states. I don’t even know if mass deaths will do it.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:17:27am

David Frum, of all people, confesses that he once lived under the thumb of a toxic narcissist (father? lover?) and calls out what we are seeing in a searing Twitter thread:

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JC1  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:17:47am

re: #375 I Would Prefer Not To

NO F WAY. They are going to get jeers whenever they appear. A few rich assholes will accept them, but NYC is going to be pissed at the trumps forever.

Also, as time goes by, more and more info is going to come out about Jarad’s self dealing. It may take awhile, but he’s going to have legal and PR problems.

I wasn’t talking about the average New Yorker, i was talking about high society and centi millionaire types. I don’t think Jarvanka care about the adoration of the unwashed masses.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:21:00am

re: #429 JC1

I wasn’t talking about the average New Yorker, i was talking about high society and centi millionaire types. I don’t think Jarvanka care about the adoration of the unwashed masses.

Trump lost a larger percentage of New York voters this year than he even had in 2016.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:21:32am

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

For years the Dems have been preaching how unsafe and rigged our elections have been. Now they are saying what a wonderful job the Trump Administration did in making 2020 the most secure election ever. Actually this is true, except for what the Democrats did. Rigged Election!

From the man who launched an investigation to fail to uncover any evidence to support his claims that he would have won the 2016 popular vote except for Democratic voter fraud.

From the man who warned America repeatedly about how mail-in votes were a scam and sham.

From the man whose party actually gained seats in the House on downticket races.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:21:38am

re: #428 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

David Frum, of all people, confesses that he once lived under the thumb of a toxic narcissist (father? lover?) and calls out what we are seeing in a searing Twitter thread:

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This makes me wonder if he’s actually doing the firing at the DoD and DHS or are his aids just doing things in his name.

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Teukka  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:21:40am

So, this popped up in my feeds. History mainly, but it touches on “Q” security clearance and “Q” sites:

Medina Modification Center Explosion, November 13, 1963

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:22:28am

The story of the postal worker who swore out an affidavit saying his supervisor and the postmaster hatched a plan to backdate postmarks so ballots would be counted just got even stupider.

Project Veritas Wrote USPS Dude’s ‘Vote Fraud’ Tale For Him. Oh, Does It Say *That*? (Wonkette)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:24:48am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

New York City instituted a “fuck around and find out” policy with regard to keeping the schools open. We fucked around, we found out: schools are closing on Monday.

Reopening schools safely would have involved hiring extra staff and assistants, expanding facilities and limiting class sizes.

All that stuff costs money and we live in a society where education is seen as another business expense to be minimized or gotten rid of entirely…

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A Cranky One  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:25:48am

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:28:48am

re: #427 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You hate to say that really because there are good people who get stuck with it. But honest to God, we fought socialism in WWII and the three brakes of government are the House, Senate & Executive.

I’m just embarrassed for that.

I’m not sure what will break republican hold on some states. I don’t even know if mass deaths will do it.

Don’t forget Tommy’s excellent understanding of the VRA. He truly is a moron’s moron:

“You know, the thing about the Voting Rights Act it’s, you know ― there’s a lot of different things you can look at it as, you know, who’s it going to help? What direction do we need to go with it? I think it’s important that everything we do we keep secure. We keep an eye on it. It’s run by our government. And it’s run to the, to the point that we, it’s got structure to it. It’s like education. I mean, it’s got to have structure. Now for some reason, we look at things to change, to think we’re gonna make it better, but we better do a lot of work on it before we make a change.”

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steve_davis  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:40:39am

re: #377 retired cynic

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Brown one: “Ah crap. I think he just adjusted my back. And not in a good way.”

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:42:22am

The next 3 months are going to look a lot like a clump of disgusting rats tearing at a particularly greasy chunk of diseased meat on a garbage dump.

440
b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:43:26am

This is some insane cult bulls*it right here.

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steve_davis  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:45:23am

re: #396 lawhawk

If/when he goes to prison, we’ll all finally get peace and quiet because you can’t tweet from behind bars.

sure you can. he’ll be renting out his ass by the mile, but they’ll give a burner.

442
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:46:17am

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:50:47am

Amid White House COVID-19 outbreak, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner pulled their 3 kids from a DC Jewish school

jta.org

Parents objected when Jared & Ivanka kept sending their kids to school knowing they were exposed to COVID. Snowflakes Jared & Ivanka pulled their kids out of the school.

FUCK BOTH OF THEM. LOCK THEM UP!

444
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:55:49am

re: #432 Belafon

This makes me wonder if he’s actually doing the firing at the DoD and DHS or are his aids just doing things in his name.

that we have to even wonder…..!!!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:57:51am
446
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:59:06am

re: #440 b.d. (We Won!)

This is some insane cult bulls*it right here.

[Embedded content]

dude, he thinks he’s behind in points, when he’s actually lying on the canvas just coming around…

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thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 9:59:40am

re: #446 dangerman

dude, he thinks he’s behind in points, when he’s actually lying on the canvas just coming around…

[Embedded content]

…And the ref is standing over him, holding another guy’s hand.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:01:13am

Techbro meets Russian honeypot ‘on vacation’ in the US, goes to Russia and gets married, returns with a wheelbarrow full of startup cash.

A long, extremely interesting thread about Parler.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:02:07am

re: #424 steve_davis

alabama pretty much deserves what they mostly get.

I’m sure that the typical voter is impressed with Tuberville’s intellect because they couldn’t even name these three “branches”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:03:05am

re: #437 BeachDem

Don’t forget Tommy’s excellent understanding of the VRA. He truly is a moron’s moron:

“You know, the thing about the Voting Rights Act it’s, you know ― there’s a lot of different things you can look at it as, you know, who’s it going to help? What direction do we need to go with it? I think it’s important that everything we do we keep secure. We keep an eye on it. It’s run by our government. And it’s run to the, to the point that we, it’s got structure to it. It’s like education. I mean, it’s got to have structure. Now for some reason, we look at things to change, to think we’re gonna make it better, but we better do a lot of work on it before we make a change.”

Awesome. A male Sarah Palin.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:05:10am

re: #439 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

The next 3 months are going to look a lot like a clump of disgusting rats tearing at a particularly greasy chunk of diseased meat on a garbage dump.

[Embedded content]

Ali, buddy of Laura Loomer and Jacob Wohl. An unholy trinity of idiocy.

From 2019:

Right-wing activists Jacob Wohl and Ali Akbar appear to have filed false information into a police report in Minneapolis, Minnesota last month while filming a smear video against Rep. Ilhan Omar.

Wohl, Akbar and anti-Muslim activist Laura Loomer traveled to Minneapolis to film a short “documentary” based on unfounded allegations in order to paint Omar as a threat to the country, and to depict Minnesota as unsafe because of a vibrant Muslim community in Minneapolis.

rightwingwatch.org

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Mike Lamb  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:05:19am

re: #446 dangerman

dude, he thinks he’s behind in points, when he’s actually lying on the canvas just coming around…

[Embedded content]

He just woke up in the hospital after being knocked the fuck out, and is so dazed, he thinks he is still fighting.

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plansbandc  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:06:58am
454
thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:08:05am

re: #451 BeachDem

Ali, buddy of Laura Loomer and Jacob Wohl. An unholy trinity of idiocy.

From 2019:

Right-wing activists Jacob Wohl and Ali Akbar appear to have filed false information into a police report in Minneapolis, Minnesota last month while filming a smear video against Rep. Ilhan Omar.

Wohl, Akbar and anti-Muslim activist Laura Loomer traveled to Minneapolis to film a short “documentary” based on unfounded allegations in order to paint Omar as a threat to the country, and to depict Minnesota as unsafe because of a vibrant Muslim community in Minneapolis.

rightwingwatch.org

Why does everybody hate Ilhan Omar so much? Oh, right the Holy Trinity of right-wing hatred: Muslim, Female, Democrat.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:09:38am

During Tuberville’s infamous sojourn in Lubbock, he became incensed that a local real estate developer had built a new apartment complex on a vacant lot near Jones-SBC stadium. The university had been using the unpaved lot for over-flow parking during football games, at no charge. That’s right, Tommy thought the developer should just donate the use of the lot, worth a couple of million dollars, to the football program instead of using it for a business venture.

456
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:10:00am

re: #452 Mike Lamb

He just woke up in the hospital after being knocked the fuck out, and is so dazed, he thinks he is still fighting.

even better

457
Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:11:38am

re: #454 thedopefishlives

Why does everybody hate Ilhan Omar so much? Oh, right the Holy Trinity of right-wing hatred: Muslim, Female, Democrat.

Person of color, immigrant.

458
sagehen  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:13:06am

re: #454 thedopefishlives

Why does everybody hate Ilhan Omar so much? Oh, right the Holy Trinity of right-wing hatred: Muslim, Female, Democrat.

and.black…

459
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:13:14am

Googlish:

Expensive
@EmmanuelMacron

All America implores you to refuse to meet
@SecPompeo
for the good of our country. We must no longer recognize this government of so unworthy Trump.

thank you,

America of values and democracy

460
Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:13:47am

re: #457 Hecuba’s daughter

Person of color, immigrant.

re: #458 sagehen

and.black…

And works for Soros.

461
thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:15:11am

re: #459 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

[Embedded content]

Googlish:

Wait, what the hell is Mike Pompeo doing now?

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plansbandc  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:16:32am

re: #457 Hecuba’s daughter

I have no problem with the young female dems. They annoy the hell of Rs and annoy a whole lot of Dems too, but they are smart, they will learn to do politics in a way that isn’t quite so annoying, and they engage younger Libs.

Sure they piss me off a lot. I’m an old. But they’ll figure it out and help us move forward.

463
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:18:46am

re: #24 thedopefishlives

Sftp has nothing to do with FTP, other than the name.

Sftp is a protocol for exposing the Unix file I/O api over a SSH connection. It’s more like SMB than FTP.

The problem with data transfer over http is that there are simple ways of doing it that nobody uses (outside of simple web browsing) and hundreds of horribly complicated ways of doing it that everybody wants you to use (SOAP, DAV, Weird Azure shit…)

464
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:19:42am

re: #461 thedopefishlives

Wait, what the hell is Mike Pompeo doing now?

He wants one last look at Europe before the ICC warrants pen him in the States.

465
makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:21:03am

Extending Geraldo’s ‘prize fighter’ metaphor - looks like Trump’s not coming out of his corner for the last few rounds.

466
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:22:14am

re: #36 thedopefishlives

I’ve done this before, but at least when I can see that it’s something that might be useful to other people, I start actually talking to other people about how they might find it useful, instead of just throwing it out there as-is and assuming they’ll understand my brain. Nobody understands my brain, not even me.

You are not ESR and I claim my 0.00001 BTC.

467
b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:22:24am

re: #465 makeitstop

Extending Geraldo’s ‘prize fighter’ metaphor - looks like Trump’s not coming out of his corner for the last few rounds.

[Embedded content]

Trump is laying on the canvas, the arena is empty and the janitor is sweeping up the peanut shells.

468
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:22:52am

re: #457 Hecuba’s daughter

Person of color, immigrant.

re: #458 sagehen

and.black…

and smart

469
makeitstop  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:24:49am

re: #467 b.d. (We Won!)

Trump is laying on the canvas, the arena is empty and the janitor is sweeping up the peanut shells.

And he still thinks he won by TKO.

470
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:24:52am

re: #465 makeitstop

Extending Geraldo’s ‘prize fighter’ metaphor - looks like Trump’s not coming out of his corner for the last few rounds.

[Embedded content]

odd cause you could easily overcome the margin if there was as much fraud as you say there was

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:25:23am
472
Dr. Matt  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:26:51am

This story is finally getting national news.

WATCH: Trump supporter tries to provoke young woman into a fight — then flips out after she points out his baldness

Iframe

The Nazi scum tried to run her over with his truckkk and also spit at her.

Click to Reveal

He’s been identified as James B. Carone of Palm Harbor, Florida.

473
Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:27:36am

re: #470 dangerman

474
thedopefishlives  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:28:23am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Now comes the misdirection part, where he tries to deflect away from quietly admitting he lost the election and was humiliated in court trying to prove otherwise, and tries to find something else to distract the media with to prove how great he is.

475
dangerman  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:30:40am

wapo
yes on the first para

no on the third - “soon”?
- that a vaccine’s efficacy might be announced is close. sure
- but manufacturing and distributing it widely enough to have, well, an effect?
- no, that’s 6-12 months off

Philip Bump: “If the plan, however dubious, was to allow the virus to spread while offsetting the worst effects, when can we expect that offsetting to take place? The situation now is akin to a fire chief assuring people that the best approach to fires breaking out in an apartment complex is to let the fires burn themselves out while he provides them with fire extinguishers. And then not providing the fire extinguishers. And then spending most of his time tweeting about how he actually won the vote for best fire chief.”

“It’s a grim, grim moment, which is poised to get worse over the short term. Even if the number of deaths is kept down during the winter — a big if — there are long-term health risks posed by even nonfatal infections…

“The most remarkable part of all of this is that a vaccine does appear to be close. It’s a moment, then, when we might soon achieve herd immunity the safe way, by inoculating people against the virus without their becoming sick. It’s a moment in which the president and his team could ask for a bit more patience and constraint with light glimmering at the end of the tunnel. Instead, we’re being told to keep our foot on the accelerator and try to live our lives as normal, as though that’s really possible anyway.”

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:42:17am

re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reopening schools safely would have involved hiring extra staff and assistants, expanding facilities and limiting class sizes.

All that stuff costs money and we live in a society where education is seen as another business expense to be minimized or gotten rid of entirely…

In order for NYC schools to open with a combination of remote, hybrid/in person, you need 2-3x the number of teachers you need at present, because you can’t have a teacher doing both remote/in person. And in-person ends up having to teach the same class 2-3 times just to get through one lesson b/c they’ve got to repeat it for each cohort.

They have long had a teacher shortage, so this made it worse. It was always going to end up going full remote, but lower income areas are deficient in the internet and devices that would allow remote learning. The pandemic is making explicit once again the differences between the haves and have nots.

The Haves are able to work remote, avoid exposures, and can have their kids learn remote with minimal difficulty because they already have devices and means and aren’t food insecure. The have nots rely on school as much for day care so that they can go to work to earn a living as it is for their kids to get an education. They don’t have the ability to get devices and internet equivalent to what the haves have.

NYC schools: 1.1 million students.

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John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:48:38am

re: #96 Dread Pirate Ron

Welcome to the third world America.

Assuming you’re talking about the MSF thing, that’s not 3rd world America, that’s international solidarity.

3rd world America is foreign medical teams running temporary dental, optical and medical clinics in mall parking lots in rural America. With queues of hundreds. And no pandemic, just normal American health care.

478
Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:49:26am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, I’m sure it will all be about vaccines.

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John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:49:46am

re: #99 TarHellion

Things were much more Basic when it was “Peeks” and “Pokes.”

Get off my lawn. All you need is !

BCPL FTW

480
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 10:51:22am

re: #100 gocart mozart

Me want!

481
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 11:03:32am

re: #134 Sherlock Hound

The Torys are taking it out on the drivers [the transport companies (god knows why maybe because they speak to foreigners)], I read elsewhere that the British government, Gove in particular, was supposed to release guidance, and a book, for logistics companies and their drivers.

As the narrator says: No such thing was forecoming.

I work with various transport companies that do cross-channel traffic.

The signature of every email ends “we don’t have a clue what is going to happen on 1/1/2021, let’s hope for the best😭”.

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John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 11:10:17am

re: #152 🌹UOJB!

I’m still mostly on Buster, but have one machine on Bullseye to keep an eye on what’s coming next. Looking good so far.

483
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 11:39:30am

re: #221 Ming5000

Small error “Gritty c’est le id pure” doesn’t work in French, the “Id” is the “ça” (lit “that”), like the “ego” is the “moi” (lit “me”) and the super-ego is the “sur moi” (lit “over me”).

French is, oddly, much less impressed by faux Latin than English.

484
John Hughes  Nov 13, 2020 • 11:41:18am

re: #221 Ming5000

Also, that photo is not original with Kim Kardashian. But does gritty know that?


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