We usually start the year quietly. But this year we need energy. We need everybody’s energy to rebuild and to move forward. We need to commit to fighting for a world that allows for everyone to be healthy and to thrive. On this New Year’s Day, I hope that this musical flow of energy charges you to move, to act, and to feel common purpose. Happy new year to you all. #songsofcomfort
Only the best.
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahah……breath….breath….breath….hahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhahahahhahah….like backing away from a grizzly bear you kicked in the balls. He’s gonna eat your ass! https://t.co/Iu9UjROuKS
— Fred Wellman (@FPWellman) January 2, 2021
A wild thread about family:
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re: #2 Belafon
For some reason LGF is saying it’s not available, but if I click on it it works.
We have to get out of the pool because antimaskers shat in it. They were warned but off they went because “their rights”
No one gets to swim now and they’re criticizing the lifeguard for blocking their swimming rights
All of us *would like* to get a drink at a bar right now— 🧬 Adam Grant (@NiceGoingAdam) January 2, 2021
Free press here! A few things you got wrong:
-That *subcommittee* report written by a lame-duck chairman had no substantive evidence
-Not bipartisan! the lone Dem objected
-Means nothing, since legislature not in session and county won’t allow it
-Nothing about de-certifying https://t.co/j4LZP1u3Qt— stephen fowler covers Georgia’s election! (@stphnfwlr) December 31, 2020
The mind-numbing thing about all of this is… this was done in a public hearing! live-streamed on several right-wing media sites, so people could easily watch to see that’s not what happened!
But what do you do when there’s a growing alternate reality where facts don’t matter?— stephen fowler covers Georgia’s election! (@stphnfwlr) December 31, 2020
re: #3 Belafon
Did you see the Sandmann comment?
Yeah. Another punk were going to hear from for all fucking eternity.
re: #2 Belafon
A wild thread about family:
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I don’t know what it was but the person looks to have made their account private or something.
re: #8 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I don’t know what it was but the person looks to have made their account private or something.
Maybe she only allows followers to see it.
From this point forward with Trump flunkeys at DOD trying to start a wag the dog no intelligence on Iraq/Iran should be believed unless confirmed by Germany/France/UK.
— Eric Nelson, Ph.D. (@CommodoreNelson) January 1, 2021
re: #2 Belafon
Shortish version:
Caitlin MacKenna’s parents got divorced when she was two. She saw her dad once a month until she was five, after her step-dad adopted her. She finds out it was mom that cut off visits.
Her bio-dad dies when she’s an adult. Mom says it was alcohol. Bio-dad had wanted to see Caitlin, but mom doesn’t tell her until after the death. It it wasn’t alcohol, but cancer, which would have been useful information since Caitlin has had to deal with cancer herself more than once.
e: #267 Yeah Sure WhatEVsIs it sedition yet?
CL’d from downstairs:
I know there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening, but anyone who signed that Texas lawsuit (The Seditious 126) should not be seated when the new Congress convenes.
And Hawley should be expelled.
re: #11 Belafon
Fucking hell.
My mom tried to do similar to me when she and my dad split. I eventually had to put my foot down and basically say “fuck you mom, I know you hate dads guts but it’s still my right to have a relationship with him.”
Fortunately she backed off and I now have reasonably good relationships with both my parents again.
re: #12 thecommodore
CL’d from downstairs:
I know there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening, but anyone who signed that Texas lawsuit (The Seditious 126) should not be seated when the new Congress convenes.
And Hawley should be expelled.
This is what I’ve been posting. It’s time to go nuclear on these assholes and burn them for pissing on the Constitution.
re: #12 thecommodore
CL’d from downstairs:
I know there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening, but anyone who signed that Texas lawsuit (The Seditious 126) should not be seated when the new Congress convenes.
And Hawley should be expelled.
Not that it accomplishes anything since I am not a resident of Missouri — but yesterday I sent Hawley an email calling him a seditious weasel and attacking him for trying to help Trump overturn the results of an election he lost. Unfortunately, even if a large number of his constituents expressed those sentiments to him, it would have no impact since he obviously cares only about Republican voters.
2020 just tweeted that the ball was rigged.
— Randy Rainbow (@RandyRainbow) January 1, 2021
If you’re wondering why we still haven’t seen Trump’s tax returns, remember that his handpicked IRS commissioner makes hundreds of thousands of dollars from Trump properties. https://t.co/YEKJGHulAx
— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) January 2, 2021
Aw Crap, Part…oh I lost count…
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re: #18 🌹UOJB!
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This is long, but read it. pic.twitter.com/Ev5LPIK96Y
— Parlertakes🇺🇸 (@parlertakes) January 2, 2021
No misogyny here, folks. Move along.
So cute 💕 pic.twitter.com/XFpyEW8OlM
— Puppies 🐶 (@PopularPuppies) January 2, 2021
re: #20 DodgerFan1988
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No misogyny here, folks. Move along.
Doesn’t look like Poe’s Law will be getting a break in 2021.
I’m sorry but what the hell https://t.co/oDBEmA8pwX
— Nicholas Sandmann (@N1ckSandmann) January 1, 2021
re: #24 Nyet
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How the fuck is Lin Wood still a lawyer? Al Franken lost his Senate gig for much. less.
re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To
How the fuck is Lin Wood still a lawyer? Al Franken lost his Senate gig for much. less.
Al Franken “lost” his Senate gig because he voluntarily resigned, which was a mistake. He should have told everyone to shove it. Bet he would have won reelection too.
re: #26 danarchy
Al Franken “lost” his Senate gig because he voluntarily resigned, which was a mistake. He should have told everyone to shove it. Bet he would have won reelection too.
True. Thanks to fucking Gillibrand.
newyorker.com
U.S. Trump supporters, the Proud Boys, and police got into a slight altercation in Salem, Oregon.
The Proud Boys claimed the police are now Antifa, apparently not fascist enough. Members later disavowed #BlueLivesMatter. Claim to no longer #BackTheBlue. (📹@MathieuLRolland) pic.twitter.com/kKY6acteCh— anonymous 👥 (@YourAnonCentral) January 2, 2021
U.S. Trump supporters, specifically the Proud Boys disavow the police.
After spending the summer of 2020 supporting the police’s right to street execute black people. Disgruntled #BlueLivesMatter supporters ritualistically stomp on a U.S. flag. (📹@MathieuLRolland) pic.twitter.com/skGsSvNPHO— anonymous 👥 (@YourAnonCentral) January 2, 2021
Man, the Proud Boys are having a rough go of it lately.
Works for me!
re: #27 Nyet
True. Thanks to fucking Gillibrand.
newyorker.com
Gillibrand’s crime was exploiting the moment for what she thought would be an opportunity to position herself well for a run at the nomination in 2020. If anything, the party loved her for it because they believed it would help them weaponize the surging “MeToo” movement against the Repubs. It was actually seen as a boon at the time for him to resign, because then a woman could (and was) named as his replacement which would (supposedly) help the party with female voters in the midterms.
— Jeff Stein (@SpyTalker) January 1, 2021
re: #6 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Sanctions are in the air. But for something else. Could be a dog whistle?
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has sanctioned lawyers for King County and a deputy sheriff for filing frivolous appeals in a federal civil-rights case filed by the family of Tommy Le, a 20-year-old Burien man killed while wielding a ballpoint pen. https://t.co/VP5Mx81O7A
— The Seattle Times (@seattletimes) January 2, 2021
re: #28 DodgerFan1988
The eating of one’s own, circular firing squad, cascading compound crazy, and ever increasing fractal wrongness of the MAGAts and Al Qaren is becoming most enjoyable.
I’m still not going to feel good or let my guard down until Biden is sworn in, and the first indictment of someone in the administration (even if it’s state charges) is in front of a judge.
the president, the actual president, lies about shit and then says the Georgia runoffs are ” illegal”
how we got here is just wow.
….is therefore both illegal and invalid, and that would include the two current Senatorial Elections. In Wisconsin, Voters not asking for applications invalidates the Election. All of this without even discussing the millions of fraudulent votes that were cast or altered!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 1, 2021
re: #34 Dangerman
the president, the actual president, lies about shit and then says the Georgia runoffs are ” illegal”
how we got here is just wow.
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if there were “millions of fraudulent votes that were cast or altered!”
you’d think in 60 lawsuits they would have presented one as evidence
Correct. The Veep’s role here is not that of a glorified letter opener. There’s nothing glorified about it. He’s just a regular old letter-opener. https://t.co/tUiRZXjT60
— Benjamin Wittes (@benjaminwittes) January 2, 2021
re: #34 Dangerman
Telling your voter base to sit out an election to own the libs. 🤣🤣
re: #34 Dangerman
the president, the actual president, lies about shit and then says the Georgia runoffs are ” illegal”
how we got here is just wow.
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re: #34 Dangerman
the president, the actual president, lies about shit and then says the Georgia runoffs are ” illegal”
how we got here is just wow.
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It doesn’t work like that, Donny. If you throw out votes in every state that changed rules and regs in the last weeks of the election, then you’ll be throwing out virtually every state including the states you carried.
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re: #39 Targetpractice
It doesn’t work like that, Donny. If you throw out votes in every state that changed rules and regs in the last weeks of the election, then you’ll be throwing out virtually every state including the states you carried.
Yup. Funny how he doesn’t want to toss Nebraska’s vote, when our Republican secretary of state “changed the rules” (allowed no excuse mail voting in areas which do not have mail voting by default).
Trump earned 4EVs here and Biden earned 1EV. Curious why he wouldn’t want to toss our state’s vote.
re: #36 Dangerman
Ask every elected Republican in your area if they believe Mike Pence can decide which electoral votes to count and make a note. Then in 2024 ask them if they believe Kamala Harris can decide which votes to count.
— Brother Jack is Back (@drhpa33) January 2, 2021
re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
Now imagine both the Senate and the House having the Gohmert majorities.
They can safely ignore the ECA (due to the separation of powers nobody can enforce it).
The cultist VP either throws away the envelopes during the opening phase or hands the tellers the alternative slate envelopes.
Dems object. Are immediately overridden by the Gohmert majorities.
There is a hole in the constitution.
He Was Hospitalized for COVID-19. Then Hospitalized Again. And Again. https://t.co/CRV9Rh6wLv via @Yahoo
— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) January 2, 2021
re: #43 steve_davis
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Cat once again falls asleep in way that prevents me from ever moving again. Still, I can feel her tiny chin pressing into my leg, and that’s worth it.
She’s really pretty. And she loves you so much. That’s so adorable I can barely stand it. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Someone may have a gambling problem
This is the best thing you’ll see today ! 🤣👍 pic.twitter.com/ZDeVtOHfEu
— Puppies 🐶 (@PopularPuppies) January 2, 2021
re: #42 Nyet
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
Now imagine both the Senate and the House having the Gohmert majorities.
They can safely ignore the ECA (due to the separation of powers nobody can enforce it).
The cultist VP either throws away the envelopes during the opening phase or hands the tellers the alternative slate envelopes.
Dems object. Are immediately overridden by the Gohmert majorities.
There is a hole in the constitution.
Is the ECA the “Electoral College Amendment” (the XII Amendment)?
Relevant clause:
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
Nothing there about setting aside votes or substituting votes.
re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Is the ECA the “Electoral College Amendment” (the XII Amendment)?
Relevant clause:
Nothing there about setting aside votes or substituting votes.
Except that’s what Gohmert was suing pence to do. And what Nyet was saying might happen if GOPers held both houses.
re: #42 Nyet
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
Now imagine both the Senate and the House having the Gohmert majorities.
They can safely ignore the ECA (due to the separation of powers nobody can enforce it).
The cultist VP either throws away the envelopes during the opening phase or hands the tellers the alternative slate envelopes.
Dems object. Are immediately overridden by the Gohmert majorities.
There is a hole in the constitution.
Which pretty much is the whole “it’s a meaningless piece of paper if those in power decide to flaunt it and no one is willing to step forward to prevent them from doing so.”
Tradition and rules* are very arbitrary structures that have no enforcement value unless there is actual threat of violence (eventually) to make them be followed.
* - And applies to a lot of other arbitrary structures like property as well.
The holiday season came early for Deadwood, after the South Dakota Commission of Gaming reported November’s gaming handle increased by more than 13% over the same time period in 2019 despite ongoing concerns with COVID-19 exposure risks.According to statistics released just before Christmas, the South Dakota Commission on Gaming handle for Deadwood showed a 13.3% increase, with slot machine handle increasing by 15.13% when compared to November 2019.
Although those were record numbers, not all was good for table games at Deadwood’s casinos. The report showed table game handle slipped by 11.81%.
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Deadwood gaming sets November record, despite pandemic (Rapid City, SD Journal)
We’re never going to get out of this, are we?
re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Is the ECA the “Electoral College Amendment” (the XII Amendment)?
No. It’s the Electoral Count Act.
> Nothing there about setting aside votes or substituting votes.
Also nothing there about not setting aside votes and not substituting votes. The amendment has no mechanism of dispute resolutions.
The Congress cannot ignore the 12th amendment (unlike the ECA), because the SCOTUS can then jump in. But the amendment is so shittily worded that it leaves a large gap for democracy-destroying manipulations.
Good lord.
“Alternate” EC ballots will not be produced for counting during the Joint Session.
The VP will not discard the legal EC ballots.
We can expect republican members to raise an objection for a number of states ballots
We can expect the debate on those objections to extend the process of counting of the EC ballots possibly a day of more.
No objection will meet the requirement of having the objection approved by a simple majority in each separate house of congress.
Yes, these collections of assholes will painfully prolong what should have been a boring pro forma procedure.
re: #52 Nyet
No. It’s the Electoral Count Act.
> Nothing there about setting aside votes or substituting votes.
Also nothing there about not setting aside votes and not substituting votes. The amendment has no mechanism of dispute resolutions.
Hmm. I’m reading the Wikipedia explanation of that act now.
(The article has a flag saying it may be too technical)
I’m not sure of any legal solution you could enact to prevent those who do not want to compete in an election in good faith from circumventing the law. Laws only matter if people actually care about them; if there is a whole political party whose sole goal is power at any cost, the laws will not matter to them.
Very much like President Andrew Jackson in Worcester v Georgia: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.”
re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Good lord.
“Alternate” EC ballots will not be produced for counting during the Joint Session.
The VP will not discard the legal EC ballots.
Nobody here has claimed otherwise for this cycle.
re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Good lord.
“Alternate” EC ballots will not be produced for counting during the Joint Session.
The VP will not discard the legal EC ballots.
We can expect republican members to raise an objection for a number of states ballots
We can expect the debate on those objections to extend the process of counting of the EC ballots possibly a day of more.
No objection will meet the requirement of having the objection approved by a simple majority in each separate house of congress.Yes, these collections of assholes will painfully prolong what should have been a boring pro forma procedure.
This seems to be going the way of the 1876 election.
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re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Hmm. I’m reading the Wikipedia explanation of that act now.
(The article has a flag saying it may be too technical)
I’m not sure of any legal solution you could enact to prevent those who do not want to compete in an election in good faith from circumventing the law. Laws only matter if people actually care about them; if there is a whole political party whose sole goal is power at any cost, the laws will not matter to them.
Very much like President Andrew Jackson in Worcester v Georgia: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.”
“How many divisions does the Pope have?”, indeed. However, if the judicial branch were to decide that the legislative branch went against the Constitution then the executive branch would have the means to enforce this - but this only concerns the Constitutional violations; the “internal” procedural matters, like the ECA, would be outside of the SCOTUS purview due to Article I, section 5: “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings…”.
re: #50 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Which pretty much is the whole “it’s a meaningless piece of paper if those in power decide to flaunt it and no one is willing to step forward to prevent them from doing so.”
Tradition and rules* are very arbitrary structures that have no enforcement value unless there is actual threat of violence (eventually) to make them be followed.
* - And applies to a lot of other arbitrary structures like property as well.
Which pretty much defines the last four years.
re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Yes, these collections of assholes will painfully prolong what should have been a boring pro forma procedure.
And if we are really lucky, flip the Senate in the process.
re: #42 Nyet
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
Now imagine both the Senate and the House having the Gohmert majorities.
They can safely ignore the ECA (due to the separation of powers nobody can enforce it).
The cultist VP either throws away the envelopes during the opening phase or hands the tellers the alternative slate envelopes.
Dems object. Are immediately overridden by the Gohmert majorities.
There is a hole in the constitution.
Dear Liza, dear liza
re: #61 Dangerman
My preferred flavor of Democrat starts at Elizabeth Warren and ranges at least as far left as AOC. But until the immediate danger of the GOP is neutralized, I have to support Democrats of every stripe. Because our total performance this year was lackluster, that can’t be until the 2022 Senate results.
re: #52 Nyet
No. It’s the Electoral Count Act.
> Nothing there about setting aside votes or substituting votes.
Also nothing there about not setting aside votes and not substituting votes. The amendment has no mechanism of dispute resolutions.
I think what happens then is the states that were ignored go to court.
Regional news.
The guy who owns this and other shops is a Florida man. His Website is also down as of Wednesday.
Rapid City Trump Shop closes (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
A Rapid City flag store has folded.
The Trump Shop is no more and someone has vandalized the empty store with a communist symbol and anti-police message.
The small store at the Baken Park Shopping Center was closed by Tuesday after opening alongside other temporary shops in July 2019 ahead of that year’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
The store was empty Wednesday morning but the outside had some remnants of its past life. There are a few flags on the top of the building, surveillance cameras set up to ward off repeated vandalism, and 50% off signs from when the store briefly rebranded as the USA Shop after the election.
The building was also vandalized with a heart, anti-police graffiti and several hammer and sickles, a communist symbol depicted on the flag of the Soviet Union. The graffiti images appear very similar to the ones sprayed onto the Trump Store and its flags in August 2019.
The 2019 graffiti incident was just one of about two dozen incidents since the store opened, according to a June 2020 story by KEVN.
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Regional news.
The guy who owns this and other shops is a Florida man. His Website is also down as of Wednesday.
Rapid City Trump Shop closes (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
Was this on purpose?
“A Rapid City flag store has folded”
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Regional news.
The guy who owns this and other shops is a Florida man. His Website is also down as of Wednesday.
Rapid City Trump Shop closes (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
There’s some weird messaging going on. First with what was supposedly Pelosi’s garage and now this.
The Trump Shop is no more and someone has vandalized the empty store with a communist symbol and anti-police message.
It just seems off to me. Like what some rightie thinks a leftie would say.
So GOHMERT! appealed his case, as expected.
It’s a nothingburger. It’s not even a 5 Guys nothingburger. This is a single, sad, microwaved White Castle nothingburger, hold the onions, hold the patty, hold the bun. https://t.co/F5dM5pdYiQ
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 2, 2021
re: #42 Nyet
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
Now imagine both the Senate and the House having the Gohmert majorities.
They can safely ignore the ECA (due to the separation of powers nobody can enforce it).
The cultist VP either throws away the envelopes during the opening phase or hands the tellers the alternative slate envelopes.
Dems object. Are immediately overridden by the Gohmert majorities.
There is a hole in the constitution.
That’s not a hole in the Constitution. If enough people refuse to follow it, it doesn’t matter what’s written down.
I see there was some debate overnight about the ECA and the 12th Amendment. Yes, if the Republicans held both houses, they could effectively dismiss the electoral votes from the contested states. What they can’t do, however, is approve the alternate votes from the purported electors that would elect Trump; those electors were not officially appointed by the procedures set forth by their state legislatures, nor were they officially certified by their states’ Secretaries of State. So in this case, the worst that could happen is that they could spoil votes from contested states, but Biden still wins unless they can somehow magic up enough alternate reality to challenge uncontested states. In that case, yes, Trump could theoretically become President* again, but at that point rules are out the window anyway and re: #71 Belafon has the right of it.
re: #65 Dangerman
I think what happens then is the states that were ignored go to court.
IANAL so I’ll quote one.
There’s nothing a court can annul; Congress’s power over the counting of electoral votes is supreme
SCOTUS says “Trump wins,” Congress responds “get f*cked” and that’s that https://t.co/QXI1sqm1H1— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) November 26, 2020
There’s nothing for SCOTUS to do
Totally unrelated to how electors get appointed – which actually could be litigated up to SCOTUS – Congress exclusively controls what electoral votes get counted https://t.co/7Z6jIWDVG6— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) November 20, 2020
Congress wins a Congress/SCOTUS standoff
I’m skeptical we’d ever get to that point, because at the very least John Roberts knows how that story ends https://t.co/AnzPkf43Ls— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) November 11, 2020
Anti-vaxxers are bad, dangerous lunatics who make America less safe, and should be treated as such. https://t.co/jX7Nu66NpV
— WeakAndTiredHat (@Popehat) January 2, 2021
re: #71 Belafon
That’s not a hole in the Constitution. If enough people refuse to follow it, it doesn’t matter what’s written down.
But they would be following it or at least not contradicting it, given that the counting procedure is not defined. They would only be not following the ECA, which is not the Constitution.
So you care about police killing people only when that person is white and in a violent militia.
Got it.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever 🇨🇦🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦 (@YeahSureWhatev2) January 2, 2021
re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
This Zach Davisson quote is driving me nuts. It’s not in the article he linked to and I haven’t seen that anywhere other than his quote.
re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
This makes zero sense. If you truly believe vaccines are useless, then why go to the trouble of spoiling them? Not that anti vaxers are coherent and smart, but if vaccines don’t work, they don’t need help not working.
Any medical professional of any type who is found to hold anti vaccine views needs to be fired and lose whatever license they have to hold to work in their field. Same with anti maskers. Doing this shit further endangers public health, not just what they do, but it gives other covidiots more dumbass reasons to be dumbasses.
re: #72 thedopefishlives
I see there was some debate overnight about the ECA and the 12th Amendment. Yes, if the Republicans held both houses, they could effectively dismiss the electoral votes from the contested states. What they can’t do, however, is approve the alternate votes from the purported electors that would elect Trump; those electors were not officially appointed by the procedures set forth by their state legislatures, nor were they officially certified by their states’ Secretaries of State. So in this case, the worst that could happen is that they could spoil votes from contested states, but Biden still wins unless they can somehow magic up enough alternate reality to challenge uncontested states. In that case, yes, Trump could theoretically become President* again, but at that point rules are out the window anyway and has the right of it.
Today’s electoral-vote.com explains it well in their first answer
re: #77 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
This Zach Davisson quote is driving me nuts. It’s not in the article he linked to and I haven’t seen that anywhere other than his quote.
In the Chicago Tribune article is this:
His motive remains unclear. Police said that detectives believe he knew the spoiled doses would be useless and people who received them would mistakenly think they’d been vaccinated when they hadn’t.
I think it’s a fair assertion that an anti-vaxxer would do this, since someone who follows reality would not be interested in sowing doubt about the vaccine.
re: #80 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
In the Chicago Tribune article is this:
I think it’s a fair assertion that an anti-vaxxer would do this, since someone who follows reality would not be interested in sowing doubt about the vaccine.
Agreed. But let’s get some evidence or something. Was this based on something he said? Then say so.
I don’t find this helpful in any way.
re: #73 Nyet
IANAL so I’ll quote one.
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And if any if this happened were not looking at either a legal or congressional solution that will hold the country together and allow it to move forward
My guess though is its with this part
“There’s nothing a court can annul; Congress’s power over the counting of electoral votes is supreme”
If congress tosses the electoral votes sent by the states and delivered by the archivist, then congress is not in fact ‘counting the electoral votes.’
anyway, the first step if there’s an objection is to request the state(s) to resend/recertify
re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Agreed. But let’s get some evidence or something. Was this based on something he said? Then say so.
I don’t find this helpful in any way.
Sorting out the motive may take some time. It would be irresponsible not to speculate. /s
Five more people in the Panhandle have died of Covid-19, bringing the number to 114.
pphd.org
There has been no update of the weekly positivity percentage since December 20; I assume it’s due to the holidays.
That’s Capitalism pic.twitter.com/fimPTVq4eQ
— accidentally left-wing (@LeftAccidental) January 2, 2021
re: #14 🌹UOJB!
This is what I’ve been posting. It’s time to go nuclear on these assholes and burn them for pissing on the Constitution.
I keep telling my congressman (Andy Biggs) that he should not be seated. Then I sweetly add that if we’re questioning ballots in Arizona, maybe we should question his reelection. Then I complete the post with a Treasonweasel. (Please note, Treasonweasels are not mustelids and no mustelids were harmed for this picture.)
Treasonweasel - this one is Andy Biggs (R-AZ)
re: #72 thedopefishlives
I see there was some debate overnight about the ECA and the 12th Amendment. Yes, if the Republicans held both houses, they could effectively dismiss the electoral votes from the contested states. What they can’t do, however, is approve the alternate votes from the purported electors that would elect Trump; those electors were not officially appointed by the procedures set forth by their state legislatures, nor were they officially certified by their states’ Secretaries of State. So in this case, the worst that could happen is that they could spoil votes from contested states, but Biden still wins unless they can somehow magic up enough alternate reality to challenge uncontested states. In that case, yes, Trump could theoretically become President* again, but at that point rules are out the window anyway and has the right of it.
This cycle no alt-slates, as no legislature-certified alt-slates exist, but they could exist in the future and have existed in the past.
Notably also, the Constitution says nothing about rejecting any EVs, yet the ECA provides for this which means, unless the ECA is unconstitutional, the counting process is indeed not defined in the Constitution itself; which further means that if ECA is rejected, this opens up new vistas (not necessarily determined by common sense).
And there’s no notion of a contested or an uncontested state in the Constitution, it’s up to the Congress to decide, so ultimately it could, without formally contradicting the text of the Constitution, reject as many slates as it needs to reach a certain result.
We ended #2020 with hope and love. My son, Luca Anthony Vargas, was born on #NewYearsEve. His middle name “Anthony” is in honor of my late father who we lost this year to #COVID19. Lauren and baby Luca are doing well. From our family to yours, #HappyNewYear, #Omaha. pic.twitter.com/6B6ezFvnf8
— Senator Tony Vargas😷 (@TonyVargas) January 2, 2021
When we lived in Japan I occasionally listened to Armed Forces Radio Network and it made me sick that Rush Limbaugh was on. Didn’t realize how pervasive conservative news has become.
Military culture for the past two decades has been driven by 24/7 broadcasts of Fox News in the DFAC and battalion S3s regurgitating stories they read on Breitbart. Officers with college educations ain’t the problem. https://t.co/6JFCstFW0j
— Boomer Bear, M.S. (@barefootboomer) January 1, 2021
re: #90 Barefoot Grin
When we lived in Japan I occasionally listened to Armed Forces Radio Network and it made me sick that Rush Limbaugh was on. Didn’t realize how pervasive conservative news has become.
Same when I lived in Spain.
At the time, Armed Forces Radio wanted to carry one hour of The Rush Limbaugh Show, but Limbaugh would not permit it unless they carried the entire programme.
re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
One of many reasons why I watch PBS. I only listen to KYW1060 AM when I need local news.
re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Same when I lived in Spain.
At the time, Armed Forces Radio wanted to carry one hour of The Rush Limbaugh Show, but Limbaugh would not permit it unless they carried the entire programme.
The quoted thread is disgusting. Dozens of guys bemoaning officers rendered “woke” by getting a college degree. It’s complete bullshit, as the guy notes.
re: #92 PhillyPretzel
One of many reasons why I watch PBS. I only listen to KYW1060 AM when I need local news.
For radio there are few choices here: The non-political KMOR-FM in Scottsbluff, or KTNE-FM (Nebraska Public Radio in Alliance, but only my car radio can receive it here).
Everything else here is hate radio of various stripes.
This has been recognized by classic commentators:
With reference to those cases in which there has been received by Congress but one return of the votes of electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified according to Section 3 of the act, Section 4 provides that no vote or votes so cast shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified.” To this Senator Sherman objected. “That,” he declared, “is a dangerous power. It allows the two Houses of Congress, which are not armed with any constitutional power whatever over the electoral system, to reject the vote of every elector from every State, with or without cause, provided they are in harmony in that matter.”
“The language,” comments Dougherty, “is none too strong. If a Congress, protected by an adequate vote in each chamber, wished to destroy the government, this provision would enable it to do so. It permits a majority, upon technical grounds, to defeat the popular will, to nullify constitutional government and prevent the inauguration of a new President.”
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Shuddup, liar, no we aren’t.
Was 2020 the worst year ever? Historians weigh in. https://t.co/ggX5Hnl9XG
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 1, 2021
the self-therapy app Bloom recently asked 28 historians from Yale, Oxford, Stanford and other major universities to choose the worst year in history — or, as they put it, the most stressful. British historian Philip Parker led the effort. Following a depressing dive down the rabbit hole of historical misery, Parker compiled a list of the top worst/most stressful years in world, British and U.S. history. Then the historians made their picks.
The worst year in world history wasn’t even a close contest.
It was 1348, the height of the Black Death, during which as many as 200 million people died. That would be like wiping out about 65 percent of the U.S. population. The Holocaust in 1944 ranked second, followed by 1816, when a volcano eruption in Indonesia blocked out the sun, starving millions. 2020 ranked sixth.
In U.S. history, 2020 was well down the list at No. 8, just behind the 2001 terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, the tumult of 1968’s riots and assassinations, the 1918 flu pandemic, the Trail of Tears of 1838, the 1929 stock market crash marking the beginning of the Great Depression, and at the very, very top, 1862.
That was, most historians say, the grimmest year of the Civil War, when the country’s total collapse seemed imminent…
re: #98 Belafon
I had a short conversation with a man at the gas station this morning as I was getting breakfast and eggs and bread. He said, “Imagine how badly everyone would poop themselves if we got a 5% [pandemic].” He mentioned the Black Plague, which was 40-60%. And he’s right; it would be bad. Even the anti-science Republicans would be forced to do something, even if that “something” was outright declare themselves as genocidal. We got “lucky”, with my apologies to the unfortunate dead, that the pandemic of our time was only 1-2%.
For those who think policy approaches to sars-cov-2 don’t matter, I give you the island of Ireland. https://t.co/rjlyXSkDYG
— David Steadson 🇦🇺🇸🇪🇪🇺🌍 (@DavidSteadson) December 31, 2020
re: #98 Belafon
The way 2020 is bleeding into 2021, the article may be premature.
Pay attention: Sitting member of Congress says failure to overturn the election in the Courts means Republicans must now resort of violence. Sitting member of Congress. Supported by Trump. Supported by GOP congressional leadership. https://t.co/j2JvL62Fpi
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 2, 2021
re: #101 jaunte
I can see the world’s supply of tie-ties being used up.
re: #101 jaunte
The way 2020 is bleeding into 2021, the article may be premature.
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Gohmert and Biggs are in clear violation of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment and they must be disqualified from sitting in the House.
re: #99 thedopefishlives
1-2 percent SO FAR. The vaccines will help, but we’re still pretty far out on getting anywhere close to even half the population vaccinated. Meanwhile we have flocks of assholes running through stores coughing and yelling at people about masks, having big parties and gatherings, still forcing themselves upon school boards to stay open, insisting on sporting events continuing and all the other crap we see daily. We’re lucky we haven’t hit ten percent yet. We also don’t have accurate information about deaths, infection rates(think of all the people staying home fighting this that are doing it alone at home and haven’t been tested)and pretty much no contact tracing. I wonder about the “excess deaths” figures when looking at 2020 compared to the last 5 years too.
Operation Enduring Clusterfuck is going to be with us for years to come via all kinds of ways. And the worst part is it never had to be this bad or worse, and that those responsible for this will never pay a consequence for it. There will be no genocide/democide trials, no federal charges regarding negligence or depraved indifference, nothing. To me, that leaves the door wide open for this to happen again, and there are other pandemics coming. It’s just a matter of time.
I know, I am just an adorable ray of fucking sunshine.
re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
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If it was ineffective they wouldn’t have to sabotage it, it would just be ineffective. So they are admitting it is effective if not fucked with. Kinda kills their argument.
re: #78 A Mom Anon
This makes zero sense. If you truly believe vaccines are useless, then why go to the trouble of spoiling them? Not that anti vaxers are coherent and smart, but if vaccines don’t work, they don’t need help not working.
Any medical professional of any type who is found to hold anti vaccine views needs to be fired and lose whatever license they have to hold to work in their field. Same with anti maskers. Doing this shit further endangers public health, not just what they do, but it gives other covidiots more dumbass reasons to be dumbasses.
Exactly, as I commented when I read that post.
re: #98 Belafon
I was off a year. I said 1347 before reading the article…the professional historians said 1348. I can see why they did. The bubonic plague was really, really bad and caused a major reset in Europe.
Revolutionaries ain’t what they used to be. pic.twitter.com/npHMrgwRQU
— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 2, 2021
re: #105 A Mom Anon
I know, I am just an adorable ray of fucking sunshine.
You know, I don’t judge. Everyone’s mental state is different after the biggest clusterfuck of a year in most of our lifetimes. I hope that 2021 is better for you and yours and that the evil can finally stop pouring forth.
MIKE PENCE A TRAITOR AND A SATANIC PEDOPHILE? - https://t.co/plfFvv6Jm7
Vice President Pence was governor of Indiana during enormous pedo rings trafficking children through the FBI, CIA&government officials in Indiana. Pence,is a longtime pedophile was massive child trafficking!— The Mark Of YHVH=the Paleo “TAV”“t”HIS Sabbath’s (@America_First17) January 2, 2021
both sides
And have you seen the Pence is a traitor and tried to kill the president and is going in front of a firing squad bullshit? People on both sides are losing their freaking minds. I think the sane are outnumbered at this point. Good Lord above,have mercy on us all.
— Kel (@Kel11413899) January 2, 2021
re: #113 Nyet
The most white bread Christian man in the entire federal government is a “Satanic pedophile”. You love to see it.
re: #115 thedopefishlives
The most white bread Christian man in the entire federal government is a “Satanic pedophile”. You love to see it.
i do
u do
re: #115 thedopefishlives
The most white bread Christian man in the entire federal government is a “Satanic pedophile”. You love to see it.
Well, can I just say that he was evil for ignoring an AIDS epidemic in Indiana, in large part for not allowing a needle exchange?
Pence is a horrible person, even if he isn’t a “satanic pedophile.”
re: #117 🌹UOJB!
I am so sorry that your relatives are even crazier than mine. The furthest my father got was to call Obama a sooper sekrit Muslim terrorist. I don’t even know if they went full Birther. Knowing how hard it is on me right now, I can’t imagine how bad it must be for you.
re: #118 mmmirele
Well, can I just say that he was evil for ignoring an AIDS epidemic in Indiana, in large part for not allowing a needle exchange?
Pence is a horrible person, even if he isn’t a “satanic pedophile.”
He is an evil man, and I remind you that even white bread Christian Indiana was about to vote him out - in part because of that, but overall, he just was not a good governor. My parents were set to vote against him, that’s how bad it was.
Here’s a way of dealing w/QAnon — make money off them. There’s an Atlantic article about a PredictIt Market player who found a profitable pattern:
… But as he kept betting, he noticed bet after bet with odds that seemed completely off. According to Cage, in the spring of 2019, for example, the PredictIt market gave former FBI Director James Comey a 1-in-4 chance of being indicted in the next six months.
[…]
All of a sudden, the bets made sense: QAnon followers believed that Q had special inside information about the future, and they bet accordingly.“There were people who were so convicted in these beliefs that they were willing to put hundreds or thousands on the line,” Cage said. “So I started shoveling more and more money in.”
[…]
When he couldn’t find any legitimate news on the bet, he’d dive into QAnon YouTube channels or message boards. If he determined that people were following a QAnon theory, he’d bet against them. Cage has made money every time QAnon has been wrong—which they have been on every bet he’s made so far, he told me. He’s put about $800 in and made around $400 in profits.
[…]
Folks let me know if JFK Jr pops up at 9PM tonight…BECAUSE HE DIDN’T SHOW UP LAST NIGHT AT 9PM…AGAIN…HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN PEOPLE GET??????
— The Mark Of YHVH=the Paleo “TAV”“t”HIS Sabbath’s (@America_First17) January 2, 2021
re: #119 thedopefishlives
I am so sorry that your relatives are even crazier than mine. The furthest my father got was to call Obama a sooper sekrit Muslim terrorist. I don’t even know if they went full Birther. Knowing how hard it is on me right now, I can’t imagine how bad it must be for you.
My crazy relatives all disowned me. In retrospect. that seems a good thing.
re: #119 thedopefishlives
I am so sorry that your relatives are even crazier than mine. The furthest my father got was to call Obama a sooper sekrit Muslim terrorist. I don’t even know if they went full Birther. Knowing how hard it is on me right now, I can’t imagine how bad it must be for you.
…and they are going to DC with their guns to stand with Trump on the 6th…
re: #123 🌹UOJB!
Folks let me know if JFK Jr pops up at 9PM tonight…
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BTW (I hesitate to even Google it), anyone know what “The Gesara Club” is? It sounds like some place you’d find just outside the Las Vegas city limits, and featuring “exotic dancers”, but I tend to think not….
re: #126 Jay C
It appears to be linked to a man calling himself “Dr. Charlie Ward”. I’m hesitant to click on any of the links to find out more. I need a sanitary VM to do this kind of research from…
It’s possible that a MAJORITY of the Republican Congressional Delegation (House and Senate) will effectively endorse a coup whereby the election results in multiple states are thrown out and Trump is installed for a second term. https://t.co/JvrAQiPUee
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 2, 2021
GOP Delenda Est.
re: #126 Jay C
This is what I got when I put Gesara into Wiki:
en.wikipedia.org
From its fiendish use of buses to its nefarious backwards cap tactics, antifa obeys no limits in its lawlessness. https://t.co/wrondUje5B
— Mark Pitcavage (@egavactip) January 2, 2021
pro tip: you can’t claim to love America while actively trying to burn it all to the fucking ground in order to overturn a free and fair election so that a deteriorating rodeo clown can avoid prison and be installed as dictator for life
— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) January 2, 2021
re: #125 🌹UOJB!
…and they are going to DC with their guns to stand with Trump on the 6th…
If this actually materialises (and I’m not sure Meal Team 6 can handle a winter protest), it appears that the DC Police will wind up collecting and owning a lot of guns.
re: #132 Barefoot Grin
The revolution will not be moisturized!
My republican colleagues are now calling for open violence to overturn the election. On Dec 11 I demanded republicans seeking to install trump as a dictator be excluded from the 117th Congress for violating the 14th Amendment. https://t.co/EZq241Igdn
— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) January 2, 2021
re: #130 jaunte
We thought about doing this but we couldn’t get American flag blow up dolls
We hope this helps— Antifa Customer Care (@AntifaCares) January 2, 2021
re: #135 jaunte
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Interestingly, calling for “as violent as antifa or BLM” actually means they won’t be violent at all…
re: #120 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I don’t think that’s an original but I read or heard it somewhere awhile ago. It fits,lol.
re: #137 thedopefishlives
They’re going with fantasy Antifa.
re: #137 thedopefishlives
Interestingly, calling for “as violent as antifa or BLM” actually means they won’t be violent at all…
It’s always projection.
Oh Sweet Jesus and The Apostles, Jimmy Dore trending on Twitter again and he flipped out over AOC…
Jimmy Dore is an absolute fucking mole if not just a sociopath https://t.co/hvHH4DFiJx
— Antifa is for the girls (@makalabeach) January 2, 2021
re: #126 Jay C
BTW (I hesitate to even Google it), anyone know what “The Gesara Club” is? It sounds like some place you’d find just outside the Las Vegas city limits, and featuring “exotic dancers”, but I tend to think not….
They have a Website.
thegesaraclub (dot) com
It is a British site, full of silverbuggery, wingnut conspiracy theorists such as David Icke (teaming up with some other chowderhead named Charlie Ward), Qnonsense (communists are coming for your food), &c.
re: #122 garzooma
Here’s a way of dealing w/QAnon — make money off them. There’s an Atlantic article about a PredictIt Market player who found a profitable pattern:
Good guy!
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Regional news.
The guy who owns this and other shops is a Florida man. His Website is also down as of Wednesday.
Rapid City Trump Shop closes (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
Jesus, it just blows my mind that these stores even existed. The closest we got to that around here was some nincompoop in my neighborhood flying two identical Trump flags on either side of his garage.
I’ve seen one larger-than-usual Biden sign in my neighborhood, other than the smattering of bumper stickers. The MAGAt obsession with giant ass flags hopefully will become a blip in election history.
re: #126 Jay C
BTW (I hesitate to even Google it), anyone know what “The Gesara Club” is? It sounds like some place you’d find just outside the Las Vegas city limits, and featuring “exotic dancers”, but I tend to think not….
NESARA/GESARA are the basis for an obscure Q-related CT.
re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
They have a Website.
thegesaraclub (dot) com
It is a British site, full of silverbuggery, wingnut conspiracy theorists such as David Icke (teaming up with some other chowderhead named Charlie Ward), Qnonsense (communists are coming for your food), &c.
Thank, ‘mouse. I appreciate that you check out this crap so I/we don’t have to!
I’ll contribute to your GoFundMe for brain-bleach.
re: #145 Nyet
NESARA/GESARA are the basis for an obscure Q-related CT.
And they post stuff like this:
Military Study: Flu vaccines increase coronavirus risk by 36%. It is time to ask the question: ‘Do flu vaccines have a causal link to Covid-19 symptoms?’ https://t.co/Bmbc8OYOB2
— David Kurten (@davidkurten) January 2, 2021
This comes from some UK site called Unity News Network. They sound legit, right up there with The Lancet. Hang on, lemme put my condom on my computer and I’ll take a look into the abyss… .
In today’s environment it’s a bit of a paradox.
Pence is going to do what he’s supposed to, and that’s basically a ceremonial position of counting the Electoral College votes, nothing more, and nothing less. Just because he doesn’t do something illegal, or what someone wants him to do, doesn’t make him a traitor!
— John Wayne (@RealJohnWayne60) January 2, 2021
God Fearin, Bible Believin, Pistol Packin, Flag Wavin, America Lovin, Constitutional Conservative! LU Board of Regents Member. #Christian #ProLife #ProIsrael
re: #147 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
And they post stuff like this:
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This comes from some UK site called Unity News Network. They sound legit, right up there with The Lancet. Hang on, lemme put my condom on my computer and I’ll take a look into the abyss… .
Don’t do it, don’t go to the bad place!
re: #149 thedopefishlives
Don’t do it, don’t go to the bad place!
Too late.
After applying some mental floss, I followed their rathole of successive links which led to an actual respectable site, Science Direct.
The wingnuts’ claim is flu vaccines cause a nearly 40% more risk in contracting Covid-19.
The study you eventually get to reported in Science Direct is a US DOD study from 2017-2018 which has nothing to do with Covid-19 (obviously).
Highlights
• We examined virus interference in a Department of Defense dependent population.
• Vaccinated personnel did not have significant odds of respiratory illnesses.
• Vaccinated personnel were protected against influenza.
• Odds of virus interference by vaccination varied for individual respiratory viruses.
re: #148 Nyet
In today’s environment it’s a bit of a paradox.
God Fearin, Bible Believin, Pistol Packin, Flag Wavin, America Lovin, Constitutional Conservative! LU Board of Regents Member. #Christian #ProLife #ProIsrael
More proof of the perfidy of the Deep State (tm, marca registrada, accept no substitutes)
Turns out Khrushchev was right when he said “We Will Bury You” and he left out the part that Russia would bury us in bullshit…
re: #128 jaunte
For an alleged journalist he sure is not good at formulatin’. He is describing a hypo that won’t happen, how many of his followers will get it?
re: #148 Nyet
In today’s environment it’s a bit of a paradox.
God Fearin, Bible Believin, Pistol Packin, Flag Wavin, America Lovin, Constitutional Conservative! LU Board of Regents Member. #Christian #ProLife #ProIsrael
That NESARA crap is all over that Gesara Club Website. I didn’t understand what I was looking at until Nyet provided the link to Wikipedia to explain what NESARA actually is (a proposed set of laws never introduced to Congress to impose hard silver and gold currency, repeal the income tax, and impose a sales tax—the conspiracy being it was actually passed, GW Bush and the Supreme Court are suppressing them, and that suppression goes on today).
In the “Brexit is starting off swimmingly” department, the Royal Navy has dispatched four gunboats from Portsmouth into the English Channel to ward French fishing trawlers away from British territorial waters. The last time the Royal Navy picked a fight over fish, they lost… badly. They might want to rethink this grand strategy.
re: #42 Nyet
He’s a letter-opener due to the ECA.
….
There is a hole in the constitution.
There is a hole in the constitution — it’s called the Electoral College. And as long as it exists, we are doomed to these assaults on our democracy.
My phone rang a bit ago. It’s always an adventure to see who’s calling.
Why it’s Kingston, Surry County Jamaica.
I pick up and say in my bestest;
WAH GWANN MON? WHY YOU CALL ME FROM SURRY?
It was Jamaica. Guy on the other end with a less thicker accent says;
YOU DON KNOW WHA JAMAICAN SCAMMERS DO MON???
I screamed “FAREYE MON NA NA NA (as in RastaFARI)”
and he said FHUCK YOU MON click.
Made my cup of coffee.
re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter
There is a hole in the constitution — it’s called the Electoral College. And as long as it exists, we are doomed to these assaults on our democracy.
That too. EC must die.
Ted is a masochist in all senses LOL
News: @SenTedCruz is circulating a letter calling for the rejection of Electoral College results until a 10-day “emergency audit” can be conducted to examine “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud.”
— John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) January 2, 2021
re: #162 Nyet
Ted is a masochist in all senses LOL
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Hey Ted. How about NO. The votes have been audited in all the states and allegations aren’t proof. How about you win a court case first, and then we’ll talk.
re: #162 Nyet
Everyone of these people trying to prevent Joe from becoming President is grasping at straws and at the last minute. DT and Co have lost almost every court case and others are also loosing.
re: #105 A Mom Anon
1-2 percent SO FAR. …. I wonder about the “excess deaths” figures when looking at 2020 compared to the last 5 years too.
The death rate from this disease is probably less than 1%, even if you include excess deaths. A large portion of those who had the disease are not counted because they were never officially tested, so the official death rate is overstated. But the next pandemic may very well turn out to be much more lethal and, given how easily and quickly a disease can spread with modern travel, the results will be more catastrophic than what we are facing now.
re: #162 Nyet
Ted is a masochist in all senses LOL
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Remove Hawley and Rafael Cruz from the Senate along with every other traitor that conspires with them to overthrow Joe.
re: #157 thedopefishlives
In the “Brexit is starting off swimmingly” department, the Royal Navy has dispatched four gunboats from Portsmouth into the English Channel to ward French fishing trawlers away from British territorial waters. The last time the Royal Navy picked a fight over fish, they lost… badly. They might want to rethink this grand strategy.
Less than meets the eye, here, I think: according to most reports, the Brits and the EU reached a deal over fishing rights as part of the “deal” announced last week. AFAICT, little is actually going to change as regards the actual boats-in-the-water-netting-fish part of things: I think the main difference will be in “quotas”, which I believe are mostly assigned away for cash. SO it looks like the RN are just “showing the flag” for PR purposes (and chasing off the occasional “poacher”). I mean, I guess they’ve got to pay their swabbies anyway, might as well let them get some sea time in - though the Channel in January can’t be easy duty…..
re: #165 Hecuba’s daughter
The death rate from this disease is probably less than 1%, even if you include excess deaths. A large portion of those who had the disease are not counted because they were never officially tested, so the official death rate is overstated. But the next pandemic may very well turn out to be much more lethal and, given how easily and quickly a disease can spread with modern travel, the results will be more catastrophic than what we are facing now.
I wonder how excess deaths and unreported positives correlate. If they’re at all close, then the current death percentage (which is somewhere around 1.5% of positive cases in the US right now) would end up being surprisingly accurate.
re: #167 Jay C
Better to be in the Channel than in the North Sea.
re: #119 thedopefishlives
I am so sorry that your relatives are even crazier than mine. The furthest my father got was to call Obama a sooper sekrit Muslim terrorist. I don’t even know if they went full Birther. Knowing how hard it is on me right now, I can’t imagine how bad it must be for you.
Our Trumpster brother never cared whether or not Obama was born in Kenya — his position was that Obama’s mother was American, so Obama was American. He never got into the fine points of the legislation that was in effect at the time of Obama’s birth.
For historical purposes remember, I was able to get rid of the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, the most unpopular and expensive part of ObamaCare. You are no longer forced to pay a fortune for the “privilege” of NOT getting bad healthcare. This ended ObamaCare as we knew it. Thank you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 2, 2021
“Please make sure I get credit for fucking up healthcare for millions of Americans.”
Go get ‘em Ted pic.twitter.com/WKrbe4UKrX
— John Fetterman (@JohnFetterman) January 2, 2021
re: #162 Nyet
Ted is a masochist in all senses LOL
Would this generic photo of ballots in USPS crates and an obtuse allegation of millions of irregularities, cited with an obscure website named using platitudes about patriotism, and possibly re-directing to a .ru domain, change your mind? pic.twitter.com/RNIKiKlKs1
— Josh Solinger (@josh_solinger) January 2, 2021
re: #168 thedopefishlives
I wonder how excess deaths and unreported positives correlate. If they’re at all close, then the current death percentage (which is somewhere around 1.5% of positive cases in the US right now) would end up being surprisingly accurate.
My guess is that at least half (if not more) of the cases here have never been officially recorded, especially given a reasonable percentage are asymptomatic. Certainly there have been articles suggesting a much higher case count. So the death rate is very overstated.
re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter
My guess is that at least half (if not more) of the cases here have never been officially recorded, especially given a reasonable percentage are asymptomatic. Certainly there have been articles suggesting a much higher case count. So the death rate is very overstated.
We’ll never know for 100% certain, but I’m still going with my gut that the overall death rate is around 1%. I agree that it is plausible that the death rate is overstated, but I don’t think it’s by quite as much as you think. That’s literally just a gut feeling and not based on any evidence, and I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
Mcconnell republicans just announced they will try (and fail) to overturn the election tomorrow to make trump dictator. The republican party’s leaders really hate democracy. https://t.co/S8Y2Q3xLyB
— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) January 2, 2021
re: #130 jaunte
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So, we need someone to go into the rally and start pointing at some people and declare them Antifa.
re: #178 jaunte
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Of course they do, because democracy means the rule of the majority, and they know they aren’t the majority anymore. They don’t like the idea of being out of power; they think their opponents are the literal incarnation of evil, and many of them fear that their opponents will do to them what they have been doing to us for decades.
re: #178 jaunte
Remember: the GOP isn’t doing this shit because they honestly think Trump won it. They’re doing it because their voter base will turn on them if they don’t.
re: #178 jaunte
Bill Pascrell, Jr.
Mcconnell republicans just announced they will try (and fail) to overturn the election tomorrow to make trump dictator. The republican party’s leaders really hate democracy.
To be fair, Ted Cruz is not a McConnell Republican; he is a man of no character or ethics (a liar par excellence) who has unlimited ambitions. McConnell wants all of this to go away.
re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember: the GOP isn’t doing this shit because they honestly think Trump won it. They’re doing it because their voter base will turn on them if they don’t.
Yeah. The rubes think Trump won it, and they have guns and lots of anger. Most of the GOP is going along with this out of fear - fear of losing power, fear of physical violence, fear of an uncertain future if they refuse.
re: #165 Hecuba’s daughter
The death rate from this disease is probably less than 1%, even if you include excess deaths. A large portion of those who had the disease are not counted because they were never officially tested, so the official death rate is overstated. But the next pandemic may very well turn out to be much more lethal and, given how easily and quickly a disease can spread with modern travel, the results will be more catastrophic than what we are facing now.
I wonder what it would be if we had 1918 level medical care.
The early morning frost is shedding from the trees like giant snowflakes and it’s beautiful.
I think there needs to be an independent commission into how 140 members of the @HouseGOP and 11 members of the @SenateGOP attempted to stage a coup and overturn an election.
— Country1stAlways (@MichaelHargrov1) January 2, 2021
re: #185 thedopefishlives
Take pictures. It sounds beautiful.
re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter
To be fair, Ted Cruz is not a McConnell Republican; he is a man of no character or ethics (a liar par excellence) who has unlimited ambitions. McConnell wants all of this to go away.
I think he left out a comma after McConnell.
re: #183 thedopefishlives
Yeah. The rubes think Trump won it, and they have guns and lots of anger. Most of the GOP is going along with this out of fear - fear of losing power, fear of physical violence, fear of an uncertain future if they refuse.
I’m really not sure about that. I don’t think it’s fear - I think it’s an honest desire to have a dictatorship. They would love to install Trump as dictator. It’s not playacting, or throwing the rubes a bone. If they thought it would succeed, they would try even harder. If they thought they could have their dictatorship without a military coup, they would do it in a second. They’re just afraid of going forward with military action.
“It’s the job of the Vice-President of the United States to unilaterally overturn decisions that state judiciaries have made about the legality of their own elections” is apparently the New Republican Orthodoxy.
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 2, 2021
I think next cycle the Rethugs should be trolled to hell with proposals that Harris should decide which EVs to count.
re: #189 Renaissance_Man
I’m really not sure about that. I don’t think it’s fear - I think it’s an honest desire to have a dictatorship. They would love to install Trump as dictator. It’s not playacting, or throwing the rubes a bone. If they thought it would succeed, they would try even harder. If they thought they could have their dictatorship without a military coup, they would do it in a second. They’re just afraid of going forward with military action.
Ted Cruz wants a dictatorship — but not with Trump in power. He and Hawley are now engaging in a brawl to see who gets the coveted Trump base endorsement in 2024. Everyone supporting this coup should be forced to resign from Congress and never permitted to hold an elective office again — or, indeed, any government position. Too bad that will never happen.
“It’s the job of the Vice-President of the United States to unilaterally overturn decisions that state judiciaries have made about the legality of their own elections” is apparently the New Republican Orthodoxy.
— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) January 2, 2021
So much for all that state’s rights bullshit, huh?
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re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg
The only Republican ‘principle’ is power. Every man for himself and the devil take the hindmost.
From @HawleyMO’s Yale Law School classmates:
“We, the undersigned students, alumni, and educators of the Yale Law School, write to condemn the recent actions of Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri (Yale Law School, 2006), which blatantly threaten our republic.” https://t.co/25GONsap5Z— Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) January 2, 2021
I allege that Ted Cruz is a lizard wearing the human skin of a man he killed and ate. These allegations are unprecedented. I demand he be jailed for ten days while we conduct an emergency audit of his lizardness. https://t.co/dENauImIOX
— Ken Tremendous (@KenTremendous) January 2, 2021
The Cruz et al letter imagines a scenario where 100 hours before the inauguration, GOP state legislatures in Biden states use the special commission report (massive election fraud tktk) as a basis for tossing the popular vote and saying Trump won. pic.twitter.com/42EtibOfns
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 2, 2021
Palate cleanser
Sri Lanka 107 years ago - whilst formerly known as Ceylon - this Kandyan bride was photographed with her bridesmaid in 1914 by Helen Messinger Murdoch (1862–1956). It is an original colour autochrome and not colourised. pic.twitter.com/K9Ws77tcI0
— BabelColour 🎞 (@StuartHumphryes) January 2, 2021
They should accept Cruz’s proposal on one condition - first they investigate whether he is the Zodiac killer and whether his dad killed Kennedy.
Reminder: Trump already appointed a voter fraud commission. It did not find evidence of widespread voter fraud. https://t.co/zPrEDvfy3r
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 2, 2021
re: #200 Nyet
They should accept Cruz’s proposal on one condition - first they investigate whether he is the Zodiac killer and whether his dad killed Kennedy.
And Trump must submit a written appraisal of Ted’s wife’s pulchritude or lack thereof.
Y’all need to give Ted Cruz, Tommy Tuberville, and other senators of the Treasonous Persuasion some room. Treason among senators has a noble 160yr old tradition in these parts.
Thomas Henry Huxley in our Jan 1871 issue: “Whether I should be descended from a respectable monkey, or from a bishop…who can put his brains to no better use than to ridicule science and misrepresent its cultivators, I would certainly choose the monkey!” https://t.co/jpPz5CrGqY
— Scientific American (@sciam) January 2, 2021
re: #165 Hecuba’s daughter
The death rate from this disease is probably less than 1%, even if you include excess deaths. A large portion of those who had the disease are not counted because they were never officially tested, so the official death rate is overstated. But the next pandemic may very well turn out to be much more lethal and, given how easily and quickly a disease can spread with modern travel, the results will be more catastrophic than what we are facing now.
That works both ways: People who died of Covid-related complications not reported as such because they weren’t tested either, as well as collateral damage of people who could not get care for other maladies when a hospital is full of Covid cases or patients are afraid of going to a hospital and getting that disease.
re: #207 thedopefishlives
That is beautiful. :)
re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg
Remember: the GOP isn’t doing this shit because they honestly think Trump won it. They’re doing it because their voter base will turn on them if they don’t.
And I’ll bet McConnell is on board now that Dems are leading in the polls for the GA runoff.
re: #199 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo
Palate cleanser
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Good grief I’m old. I read “107 years ago” and immediately thought we were talking about the 1800s.
Newborn Tallulah the size of her mum’s paw 😍 https://t.co/WX47GTt9O8 pic.twitter.com/lBmBv1Dowt
— Illegally Smol Cats (@IllegallySmol) January 2, 2021
re: #211 Nyet
Or how about just plain ol’ Nancy?
re: #209 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
And I’ll bet McConnell is on board now that Dems are leading in the polls for the GA runoff.
In order to be really leading in Georgia, the polls would have to show them 5 points ahead — and I still wouldn’t believe it. Since I don’t believe in the accuracy of polls anyway.
McConnell may be smart enough to know that this is a losing strategy. I wonder if Chuck could get a few Republicans to jump ship — such as Mitt or Lisa or even (gag) Susan — in order to install a set of Senators who believe (somewhat) in the Constitution.
two months after Trump lost by 7M votes, NYT *still* churning out articles abt how well he did
the losing candidate has never received coverage like this; https://t.co/VHBfV39Pn3— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 2, 2021
And this is why the coup shit is so dangerous, regardless of how impossible it is to work out for the GOP: the normalization in the discourse means they’ll get to do this shit again, and again, and again, until it works, while it becomes a landmine for Dems to criticize because anything the Dems do against this shit will become the greatest violation of norms and civility ever, because it’s just Republicans being Republicans, how dare you be so biased as to reject legitimate Republican tactics such as intimating the default illegitimacy of the entire Democratic Party?!
re: #215 thedopefishlives
That’s “Madam Speaker” to you.
Or Madam Acting President, if they misbehave ;)
re: #208 PhillyPretzel
That is beautiful. :)
Thanks. I particularly like that first shot, with the sun at its zenith in the southern sky shining through the tree and making the ice particles all sparkly on the snow. Our outdoor cat showed up during the photo op, asking to be let inside, but I am not able to do that while she has the annoying habit of dragging her butt on the carpet the minute we bring her in.
Bruh! Not the other dog making fun of the corgi’s smol legs. 😂💀 pic.twitter.com/KfGRg1jkTI
— Jack Phan (@JackPhan) January 2, 2021
re: #211 Nyet
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Ah another Republican stooge who is pushing to recall Newsom and Garcetti.
Republican for the Rule of Law, quoting Josh Hawley last January (0:25)
— moleek (@moleek22) January 2, 2021
re: #218 Citizen K
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And this is why the coup shit is so dangerous, regardless of how impossible it is to work out for the GOP: the normalization in the discourse means they’ll get to do this shit again, and again, and again, until it works, while it becomes a landmine for Dems to criticize because anything the Dems do against this shit will become the greatest violation of norms and civility ever, because it’s just Republicans being Republicans, how dare you be so biased as to reject legitimate Republican tactics such as intimating the default illegitimacy of the entire Democratic Party?!
The Screw York Times can always be counted on to print whatever the GOP wants.
re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Republican for the Rule of Law, quoting Josh Hawley last January (0:25)
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re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Amazing what a year can do to someone’s opinion.
re: #207 thedopefishlives
Well done. Very nice.
re: #220 thedopefishlives
Thanks. I particularly like that first shot, with the sun at its zenith in the southern sky shining through the tree and making the ice particles all sparkly on the snow. Our outdoor cat showed up during the photo op, asking to be let inside, but I am not able to do that while she has the annoying habit of dragging her butt on the carpet the minute we bring her in.
Sounds like she needs worming.
re: #229 retired cynic
Sounds like she needs worming.
Mrs. Fish is giving her medication for something, maybe that’s it.
re: #162 Nyet
Ted is a masochist in all senses LOL
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News: @SenTedCruz is circulating a letter calling for the rejection of Electoral College results until a 10-day “emergency audit” can be conducted to examine “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud.”
— John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) January 2, 2021
60 court cases
Zero examples of fraud
re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg
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“Please make sure I get credit for fucking up healthcare for millions of Americans.”
A fortune
$75
For historical purposes remember, I was able to get rid of the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, the most unpopular and expensive part of ObamaCare. You are no longer forced to pay a fortune for the “privilege” of NOT getting bad healthcare. This ended ObamaCare as we knew it. Thank you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 2, 2021
re: #123 🌹UOJB!
Folks let me know if JFK Jr pops up at 9PM tonight…BECAUSE HE DIDN’T SHOW UP LAST NIGHT AT 9PM…AGAIN…HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN PEOPLE GET??????
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LOL! “It starts to get unbelievable.” No, surely not! This smacks of heresy.
re: #178 jaunte
And at the bottom of it I think this is Cruz trying to act crazy enough (he thinks) to be able to assume the Trump mantle and thus the loyalty of the Q base and associated crazies when Trump dies or otherwise drops into the event horizon.
So it’s still a con since Cruz doesn’t believe any of it, he just wants the power and influence that comes with having the crazies hang on whatever he decides to say.
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