Strangely Soothing: José González, “Swing”

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Taken from the upcoming album “Local Valley” (Sept. 17).
▶️ Stream/Download: https://josegonzalez.lnk.to/swing
► Pre-order album: http://josegonzalez.lnk.to/localvalley

🎬 Video Credits:
Directed by Mikel Cee Karlsson

🎼 Song Credits:
Music by José González
Lyrics by José González & Hannele Fernström

● Links
Website: http://found.ee/JGWebsite
iTunes: http://found.ee/JGiTunes
Spotify: http://found.ee/JGSpotify
Facebook: http://found.ee/JGFB
Twitter: http://found.ee/JGTwitter
Instagram: http://found.ee/JGIG
SoundCloud: http://found.ee/JGSC
Mailing list: http://found.ee/JGMailingList

🎤 Lyrics:
Swing your belly baby
Move your body buddy

Swing what nature gave you
Swing & move like you don’t care
Swing to the rhythm inside you
Swing to the waves in the air

Swing your belly baby
Move your body buddy
 
Swing what your mama gave you
Swing your bum like seaweed
Swing what your papa gave you 
Swing your hands like forest leaves
 
Swing your belly baby
Move your body buddy
 
Sing to what nature gave you
Sing like the whales in the sea 
Sing to the sound that surrounds you
Swing to the beat of the rhythm machine
 
Swing your belly baby
Move your body buddy

#JoseGonzalez #NewAlbum #MusicVideo

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356 comments
1
Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:02:26pm

Suddenly I want a drink with a paper umbrella.

2
Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:13:10pm

re: #298 A Mom Anon

Anyone know what to do if you lose your vaccine card? The kid can’t find his. Shit.

We got our shots at the drive thru mass vaccination site nearest us back in mid-April and end of April. Those places are shit down now, they were run by the National Guard I think. I have mine and the kid got his the same day, same time, he was just in a different line than me. He’s calling his Vegas hotel to see if anyone found it and searched his bags, laundry and car and doesn’t remember taking it out of the bag when he unpacked it. So yeah it’s gone or in someone’s pocket. Lordy, I need some weed.

What to do if you lose your COVID vaccination card

3
Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:16:21pm
4
EPR-radar  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:21:08pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate Ron

The wages of conservatism is death.

5
jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:22:18pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate Ron

Send the bodies to Mar-a-Lago.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:26:03pm

From Downstairs:
re: #298 A Mom Anon

Anyone know what to do if you lose your vaccine card? The kid can’t find his. Shit.

We got our shots at the drive thru mass vaccination site nearest us back in mid-April and end of April. Those places are shit down now, they were run by the National Guard I think. I have mine and the kid got his the same day, same time, he was just in a different line than me. He’s calling his Vegas hotel to see if anyone found it and searched his bags, laundry and car and doesn’t remember taking it out of the bag when he unpacked it. So yeah it’s gone or in someone’s pocket. Lordy, I need some weed.

Ok I presume you had to present ID and that they took the info down?

What I’d do is call the nearest NG unit. Ask who was running the vax site you were at. Then get that unit’s number. Contact that unit with names, date & time of your vax and ask for a duplicate card. There is no reason (other than laziness) for them not to do it for you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:26:58pm

re: #6 William Lewis

my contribution downstairs:
Contact your local health department. The popup vaccine site with the National Guard would have been in coordination with the health department.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:27:48pm

re: #6 William Lewis

What state are you in?

9
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:30:20pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:30:23pm

I be confused. Do I have this right? ISIS-K is the sworn enemy of the Taliban and want to interfere with the evacuation to make everyone else look bad. And we won’t be able to continue the evacuations because of these threats. Meanwhile there are resistance fighters north of Kabul who have temporarily driven out the Taliban. Is everything descending into uncontrolled chaos?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:30:41pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

my contribution downstairs:
Contact your local health department. The popup vaccine site with the National Guard would have been in coordination with the health department.

I think they are sharing the info with the health department and insurance companies, at least that’s been my experience. I got my vaccinations through the San Diego County sites that were being run by the County Health department in conjunction with the UCSD Medical Center and San Diego Fire Department, but if I log into my Kaiser Permanente account and check my medical record the COVID vaccinations are listed there.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:34:11pm

Kentucky gentleman continues to distinguish himself.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:35:12pm

Goddamn idiots:

James Shillam had just achieved a life-long dream of coaching at one of the most heralded high school football programs in the country. He signed on to coach at Allen High School and was excited to start the new season.

“He adored every minute of Texas football,” said his wife Kyp Shillam while sitting in the stands at Allen Eagle Stadium. “For him, Allen was his dream. It was his promised land,” she said.

Shillam fell ill in early August and died Sunday after a nearly two-and-a-half-week fight with COVID. He was 56. The family told WFAA Shillam was not vaccinated, and that it was a personal choice to not get vaccinated.

wfaa.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:39:14pm

hi

BGI Group is a Chinese company which was formed to participate in the Human Genome Project.

They since have created one of the most popular pregnancy tests in the world, called NIFTY, to look for genetic abnormalities in a foetus.

This month, BGI Group was exposed as part of the People’s Liberation Army, and the FBI warns the test, while accurate, is being used to collect the genomic data of every woman in the world who uses it.

A Chinese gene company selling prenatal tests around the world developed them in collaboration with the country’s military and is using them to collect genetic data from millions of women for sweeping research on the traits of populations, a Reuters review of scientific papers and company statements found.

U.S. government advisors warned in March that a vast bank of genomic data that the company, BGI Group, is amassing and analyzing with artificial intelligence could give China a path to economic and military advantage. As science pinpoints new links between genes and human traits, access to the biggest, most diverse set of human genomes is a strategic edge. The technology could propel China to dominate global pharmaceuticals, and also potentially lead to genetically enhanced soldiers, or engineered pathogens to target the U.S. population or food supply, the advisors said.

Reuters has found that BGI’s prenatal test, one of the most popular in the world, is a source of genetic data for the company, which has worked with the Chinese military to improve “population quality” and on genetic research to combat hearing loss and altitude sickness in soldiers.

BGI says it stores and re-analyzes left-over blood samples and genetic data from the prenatal tests, sold in at least 52 countries to detect abnormalities such as Down syndrome in the fetus. The tests - branded NIFTY for “Non-Invasive Fetal TrisomY” - also capture genetic information about the mother, as well as personal details such as her country, height and weight, but not her name, BGI computer code viewed by Reuters shows.

So far, more than 8 million women have taken BGI’s prenatal tests globally. BGI has not said how many of the women took the test abroad, and said it only stores location data on women in mainland China.

(more)

China’s gene giant harvests data from millions of women (Reuters)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:39:34pm
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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:40:31pm

re: #13 Belafon

a nearly two-and-a-half-week fight with COVID

I wish news people would ditch this framing.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:41:36pm

It is curious how covid is “Florida’s problem” but Afghanistan is “Biden’s problem.”

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:41:44pm

Also, it’s hardly a fight if you refuse to play defense.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:47:52pm

Feral conservative making threats to school board members over masks and vaccines in a Brevard County, Fla. school board meeting a few days ago, and threatening people in a protest before the meeting, has been exposed as a Capitol insurrectionist and a pharmacist at Walgreens. He has been turned into the FBI tip line.

He has no children in the school system.

An on-line pressure campaign against Walgreens to fire this guy (can’t be trusted to administer vaccines) is being met by silence from the MBAs rather than a proactive response from the PR people.

The pressure is on for them to do something, as more and more people are transferring prescriptions from Walgreens to other pharmacies.

[2:15]

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:48:05pm

From downstairs (to AMomAnon’s query):

re: #304 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Here is a link to the vaccination registry for Georgia.

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2021 • 5:57:08pm

re: #13 Belafon

Goddamn idiots:

The family told WFAA Shillam was not vaccinated, and that it was a personal choice to not get vaccinated.

I could make the personal choice of walking over to the NJ Turnpike and flinging myself into traffic. I’d get the same fucking result as this meathead: I wind up dead and potentially hurt or kill others in the process.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:00:44pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ohh that asshole. It’s become impossible to keep up with these pricks. And it doesn’t help that they all look similar.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:01:07pm

Dreary old England has nothing on dreary Iceland, where it has been foggy and rainy on the peninsula for three days (thus no new pretty pictures.)

On top of that the only video camera remaining streaming is upon the highest local hill, which means it’s often in the clouds.

Lava is flowing right now, but all you can see are a couple of rivers of lava in Suður Meradalir (not to be confused with the regular Meradalir which east - this valley is south), to eventually go over the cliff into Natthagi valley (and from there to the sea if this keeps up for a few weeks). And of course the fog glows orange. Zoom lens is set to a very wide angle to catch it all:

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:01:12pm

I went to the university library today. Its first time open since March 2020.

Afterwards, I crossed campus to stop at my bank.

Going back, I see that the Christians at the entrance to Sproul Plaza were talking about how life is uncertain and we all need to find Jesus.

The plaza was packed with tables promoting all sorts of student organizations and causes.

PETA had dumped red dye into Ludwig’s fountain, along with some artfully arranged red-dyed stuffed animals and a sign demanding that UC get out of factory farming. (?)

Another group had hung a giant banner across Sather Gate, “UC LAND GRAB VALUES PROFITS OVER PEOPLE!” (about the big U’s plan to build more dorms, I think).

Yeah, baby, we’re back!

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:02:57pm

This morning’s weightlifting from my forest path project:

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:03:28pm

re: #24 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I went to the university library today. Its first time open since March 2020.

Afterwards, I crossed campus to stop at my bank.

Going back, I see that the Christians at the entrance to Sproul Plaza were talking about how life is uncertain and we all need to find Jesus.

The plaza was packed with tables promoting all sorts of student organizations and causes.

PETA had dumped red dye into Ludwig’s fountain, along with some artfully arranged red-dyed stuffed animals and a sign demanding that UC get out of factory farming (?)

Another group had hung a giant banner across Sather Gate, “UC LAND GRAB VALUES PROFITS OVER PEOPLE!” (about the big U’s plan to build more dorms, I think).

Yeah, baby, we’re back!

This would be me encountering that scenario:

Homer disappears into bushes

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:03:45pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:04:52pm

This is the coolest Charlie Watts video that’s come across my recommendations over the last couple days.

Charlie speaks - and dances!

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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:07:16pm

re: #26 Mattand

“Would you like some good news free?”
“No, thank you.”

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Mattand  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:07:27pm

re: #28 stpaulbear

This is the coolest Charlie Watts video that’s come across my recommendations over the last couple days.

[Embedded content]

I saw Charlie’s jazz band at the Philly’s Academy of Music back in 1985. I don’t remember much of it, but I remember it being good and I remember Charlie was having the time of his life.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:08:12pm

Thanks for all your ideas prior thread ending. We found the site and got the form filled out and emailed to the state dept of health. He did take a picture of the card, has video of himself getting his shot at the drive thru(I just found out about that,lol), and has the QR code saved in his phone. He’s left a voice message with the front desk at the hotel, but I doubt that will result in anything useful. So he’s sort of covered, but the card is kind of an important document to have. It’s always something, I swear…

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:10:30pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

Ohh that asshole. It’s become impossible to keep up with these pricks. And it doesn’t help that they all look similar.

It isn’t that they look similar, more and more evidence is accruing that it’s the same people on many different conservative “protest” sites, including 2021-01-06. I suggest people take portrait style photos, full-body photos, and basic biometrics (approx height, build, eye color, characteristic scars/tattoos) of them for later ID purposes…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:13:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:14:37pm

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

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Teukka  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:15:09pm

TRUFAX of the day…

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:15:23pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:15:45pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

You made the Oasis, we just hang. Thank you too.

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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:17:10pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An on-line pressure campaign against Walgreens to fire this guy (can’t be trusted to administer vaccines) is being met by silence from the MBAs rather than a proactive response from the PR people.

The pressure is on for them to do something, as more and more people are transferring prescriptions from Walgreens to other pharmacies.

I just picked up three prescriptions at Walgreens. Been a customer of theirs for ages. I should send them an email. There are lots of other pharmacies close to me.

The store I go to already had their Halloween candy display in place. Both sides of half an aisle. If it would have been on sale, I would have succumbed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:18:17pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

You made the Oasis, we just hang. Thank you too.

I concur wholeheartedly. Charles, thank you for all the work you do to keep this site going!

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:21:52pm

re: #38 stpaulbear

I just picked up three prescriptions at Walgreens. Been a customer of theirs for ages. I should send them an email. There are lots of other pharmacies close to me.

The store I go to already had their Halloween candy display in place. Both sides of half an aisle. If it would have been on sale, I would have succumbed.

I was going to buy some the other day at the walgreens, but it sounded like at some kid at the checkout was trying to scam the employee discount by claiming the machine just wasn’t taking his employee code and that he worked at a different store. I decided I didn’t want to hang around.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:23:44pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I learn so much just reading here sometimes. About all kinds of stuff. And there’s not a lot of nonsense and mean stuff happening here. If you’re down, people will be empathetic, if you’re happy, they join in. There seems to be an overall low bullshit tolerance level that’s part of the deal here. It’s a community, as much as you can be one with only, or mostly only,knowing each other online. It’s pretty awesome, and there aren’t a lot of places like it. It’s why I hang out here way too much sometimes, lol. Thanks everyone for putting up with me and my weirdness. ❤️

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:26:06pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

On an old CompuServe forum, we used to joke that the forum was like “Hotel California” - You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

(that is, unless you earn the scorn of Stinky…)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:28:15pm

re: #221 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s all so tragic yet avoidable.

Also, I do wonder about the “oxygen supply” in Florida if no one figured out:
1) that there would be a surge in need by hospitals given Florida embraces culling-the-herd mentality;
2) why did no local entrepreneur open an oxygen supply shop. It’s not as if it is difficult to isolate oxygen from the atmosphere or do hydrolysis.

Extracting oxygen, collecting it, compressing it into liquid, and moving it in large enough quantities for water plants and hospitals is a monumental set of infrastructure to create, and a “private entrepreneur” could never create enough for that.

A government which wanted to leverage large quantities of oxygen from existing private industry could do things like requisition it via eminent domain from airports (many have LOX plants for aviation), but that would meet pushback from airlines.

As usual, this is a problem of “just-in-time” capitalism. There is no built-in cushion for sudden demand.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:28:34pm

I’m reading the Judge Parker decision, and near the end, Sidney Powell apparently shot herself in the foot so bad, she basically shot her foot off:

It is not acceptable to support a lawsuit with opinions, which counsel herself claims no reasonable person would accept as fact and which were “inexact,” “exaggerate[ed],” and “hyperbole.” Nor is it acceptable to use the federal judiciary as a political forum to satisfy one’s political agenda.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:29:42pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:31:00pm

re: #40 Belafon

I was going to buy some the other day at the walgreens, but it sounded like at some kid at the checkout was trying to scam the employee discount by claiming the machine just wasn’t taking his employee code and that he worked at a different store. I decided I didn’t want to hang around.

The store I go to is short staffed and if you call the store’s number the first announcement you get is about the great career opportunities at Walgreens. I’ve learned to pick up my meds at either around 2pm or after 8pm because if you go between 3:30 to 6:30 there will be up to 10 people waiting in the pharmacy line and only one person behind the counter. Maybe it’s bad at all pharmacies now, I don’t know.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:33:10pm

re: #46 stpaulbear

Nearly everything around here in the Metroplex has a help wanted sign. And yet they can’t build apartments or houses fast enough to accommodate all of the people moving here.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:33:25pm
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dharmamark  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:33:53pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Thank you Boss, from someone who’s primarily a kicker.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:37:33pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

You’re welcome, man: we’re the ones who owe thanks…..

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dharmamark  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:38:41pm

re: #49 dharmamark

Lurker, not kicker. Stupid iPhone.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:40:41pm
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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:44:15pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

I just do it for the free karma. :) Still trying to get enough to earn one penny.

The worst thing they did to me on Duolingo was add the leagues.

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:49:18pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:50:00pm

So, this happened….

And Matt, true to form, goes for the ratio….

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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:51:22pm

re: #52 The Pie Overlord!

Gabe: This is the line for monoclonal antibody treatment at one popup site in Tampa right now as the state battles its Covid surge.

DeSantis: Excellent!!

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No Malarkey!  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:51:33pm

re: #48 Dave In Austin

Greg Abbott cannot allow Ron DeathSantis to have a larger covid body count! Biggest mass killer gets to be Trump’s VP nominee!

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No Malarkey!  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:52:49pm

re: #55 Eric The Fruit Bat

So, this happened….

Let them fight.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:53:17pm

re: #57 No Malarkey!

Greg Abbott cannot allow Ron DeathSantis to have a larger covid body count! Biggest mass killer gets to be Trump’s VP nominee!

So, Chief Justice Roberts it is.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:54:08pm

re: #8 Belafon

What state are you in?

Wisconsin

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2021 • 6:59:15pm

re: #60 William Lewis

Wisconsin

We used to go up from central Illinois to summer Scout camp in Rhinelander. Oh, those Wisconsin boys thought it a hoot to say “Illinoiz.”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:06:25pm

re: #61 Barefoot Grin

We used to go up from central Illinois to summer Scout camp in Rhinelander. Oh, those Wisconsin boys thought it a hoot to say “Illinoiz.”

Me too. Wheaton IL to either Hayward (😎) or Eagle River.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:20:24pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

Me too. Wheaton IL to either Hayward (😎) or Eagle River.

Isn’t Wheaton where Red Grange had a job hauling ice?

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:21:52pm

and possibly bombing Cambodia

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retired cynic  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:24:15pm

re: #61 Barefoot Grin

We used to go up from central Illinois to summer Scout camp in Rhinelander. Oh, those Wisconsin boys thought it a hoot to say “Illinoiz.”

Gosh, for us it was Summit Lake, not that far from Rhinelander. Used to go over and see the big muskies in the boxes on ice out along the sidewalk.

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Jay C  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:24:37pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

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and possibly bombing Cambodia

Retired war criminal says what….?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:24:38pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

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and possibly bombing Cambodia

“Diplomacy and force”: force like the drone of a gravelly monotone of a war criminal?

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:25:08pm

re: #63 Barefoot Grin

Isn’t Wheaton where Red Grange had a job hauling ice?

Don’t know. Evangelical Wheaton College is there.

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stpaulbear  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:25:48pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

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and possibly bombing Cambodia

I want to watch Lawrence McDonnell interview Kissinger about Afghanistan on The Last Word.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:27:13pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

Don’t know. Evangelical Wheaton College is there.

My son played soccer in Lexington, Ky for a Wheaton grad. He never asked any parental permission, just had the kids take a knee in prayer before practices and games. I didn’t raise a fuss, just talked to my kid about it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:27:31pm

Follow up:

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:28:05pm

Someone has all of these languages on Duolingo. I would argue that Irish is the odd one in the list:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:29:36pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

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and possibly bombing Cambodia

(for Vietnam nerds)
“Yes, Thieu was corrupt but he was someone we could work with, unlike that wild-ass cowboy Ky.”

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:30:55pm

re: #55 Eric The Fruit Bat

So, this happened….

The Right ganging up on her.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:30:57pm
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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:33:40pm

The first science fiction book I read (aged 7) was about a manned flight to Jupiter.
I’m glad I lived to see at least a robotic version.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:34:33pm
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:37:05pm

Night Lizards. Wonderful trip down memory lane as far as movies go. Hopscotch with Walter Matthau and Sam Waterson. Sleep well.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:39:02pm
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Sherlock Hound  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:41:08pm

The guy in this article who got fired, sure dodged a bullet. He’ll make out better than his asshole incompetent manager.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:42:59pm
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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:43:49pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

The driver should be able to get a job fairly easy. They’re all hiring.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:45:26pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

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Ze Bastard Dorka complains about vetting? I’ll trade 10 Hungarian fascist con-men for one honest Pakistani truck driver any time. I don’t think there would be any takers though.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:54:43pm

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Ze Bastard Dorka complains about vetting? I’ll trade 10 Hungarian fascist con-men for one honest Pakistani truck driver any time. I don’t think there would be any takers though.

That and I’m reasonably sure that story he’s bitching about is fake too.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:56:32pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

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Gorky got a case of…

The Sylvers - Boogie Fever (Midnight Special 1976)

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plansbandc  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:56:44pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Thank you. You’ve created a nice place for us to exchange ideas and vent. It’s been a life saver more than a few times.

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CleverToad  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:58:53pm

Saw this — an interesting side note in the tributes for Charlie Watts. Check the link for illustrations

dailycartoonist.com

“His music career has been and will be well documented,
here we will be looking at the path not taken.

“From U Discover Music:

“In 1961, twenty-year-old Charles Robert Watts was working as a full-time graphic designer and a part-time drummer. He had left art school in July 1960, and after working as a tea boy in an advertising agency he got his chance to work as a designer. In mid-1961 he was also playing drums twice a week in a coffee bar, but by September he was playing with a band at the Troubadour Club in Chelsea. It’s here he met Alexis Korner who asked him to join his band, but young Charlie had other ideas: he moved to Denmark to work.

“It was while he was at art school that he wrote and illustrated a book he called, Ode To A High Flying Bird, the bird being, Charlie Parker, the jazz saxophonist who Charlie loved so much. When Charlie became a member of the Rolling Stones in January 1963 his jazz drumming took a back seat, but not his passion for the music, which he has loved and played ever since whenever his commitments with the Stones allowed.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:59:14pm

Fire And Brimstone

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JOE 🥓  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:59:50pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Deeply appreciate Charles keeping this safe space on line!

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jaunte  Aug 25, 2021 • 7:59:54pm

Journey to Jupiter
thriftbooks.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:01:14pm
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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:09:33pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

[Embedded content]

and possibly bombing Cambodia

That war criminal is 98 years old. And dammit, we sure as hell did not need to hear from HIM.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:11:34pm

And the douchecanoe who threatened a Broward County school principal over his child not being allowed in the school without a mask and said he would come back, came back.

He also assaulted a child coming in the school wearing a mask. He has now been charged with child abuse and arrested.

Florida dad accused of pushing student, twisting her arm in school mask dispute (NBC News)

Another feral conservative off the streets. When conservatives don’t get their way, they get violent. I imagine his daughter is mortified at all this.

The father of a Florida high school student, who is known for protesting the district’s mask mandate, was charged Wednesday with child abuse after authorities said he pushed another student who took issue with his recording his latest anti-mask stunt.

The man, Dan Bauman, was recording his daughter on his cellphone Wednesday morning as she tried to enter Fort Lauderdale High School without a mask on, according to an arrest report released by the Broward County Sheriff’s Office. Another student told him, “I’ve had enough for four days,” and tried to grab his phone, authorities said.

(more)

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:13:20pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

And I thank you for providing a Community that is as accepting as this one. The support I have seen for the LGBTQ+ Communities here has been heart lifting in these dark days. Thank you again for providing such a place and thank you to the Lizard Community as well.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:15:06pm

re: #29 stpaulbear

Xtians: Hi! We’re committed!

Me: You should be.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:16:39pm
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CleverToad  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:20:28pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

Thank you and the hamsters for keeping the lights on and the doors open. It IS a community, not to mention an addiction — a great place to learn, with some of the most interesting people I’ve never met and care about anyway.

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retired cynic  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:22:31pm

re: #97 CleverToad

Thank you and the hamsters for keeping the lights on and the doors open. It IS a community, not to mention an addiction — a great place to learn, with some of the most interesting people I’ve never met and care about anyway.

Agree. I hate days, like today, when I am so busy I can’t read everything, and have to scroll fast. Good peeps.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:22:52pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

The Kissinger doctrine: Show up with a sandwich in one hand and a pistol in the other. Ask them which one they prefer.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:43:24pm

The Taliban can not guarantee security around it’s own airport for visitors, departing diplomats or anyone else. Great Job!

US concerned about ‘very specific threat stream’ from ISIS-K against crowds outside Kabul airport
cnn.com
(CNN)Concerns about security around Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul have increased based on “a very specific threat stream” from ISIS-K about planned attacks against crowds outside the airport, a US defense official has told CNN.

The US believes ISIS-K, which is a sworn enemy of the Taliban, wants to create mayhem at the airport and has intelligence streams suggesting it is capable and planning to carry out multiple attacks, according to the official.
The US Embassy in Kabul advised US citizens at a number of gates at the airport to “leave immediately,” noting “security threats outside the gates.”

Nobody wants to find out what happens in the event of some terror attack against that crowd.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:57:43pm
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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 8:59:06pm

Watching Independence Day again. Jeff Goldblum’s character, David, has an Apple laptop. Considering the movie was released in ‘96, meaning it was probably filmed in ‘94/’95, what model would that have been?

Edited. Got the dates wrong.

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William Lewis  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:08:35pm

re: #102 Belafon

Watching Independence Day again. Jeff Goldblum’s character, David, has an Apple laptop. Considering the movie was released in ‘94, meaning it was probably filmed in ‘92/’93, what model would that have been?

It was a Powerbook 5300. Dog slow PPC 603e @ 100 mhz, max of 64 mb & CD is extra. 10” 640x480 screen

Had one. A PPC upgraded Powerbook 190 was a better computer and everything after was much better. But it was the fastest thing on the market in 1992.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:14:02pm

re: #102 Belafon

Apparently it wasn’t a commercial model.

” The Macintosh laptop that David uses is shown as a Powerbook XXXX, a prototype model with no designation. Despite this, clips from the film, showing the laptop with its prominent Apple logo, were used a series of Powerbook ads at the time. The ads’ slogan was “What kind of laptop would *you* choose to save the world?”

This is from the IMDB trivia section for the film.

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teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:21:24pm

Did you know that my favorite touring rock ‘n roll circus Umphrey’s McGee plays a pretty mean Stones cover?

Umphrey’s McGee - Can’t You Hear Me Knockin’

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:23:55pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:25:28pm
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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:28:21pm

re: #106 Dread Pirate Ron

“Why should I be the next president? Because I am willing to kill your neighbor to make a few bucks when you come to me for treatment.”

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:31:26pm

Saw this at the gaming store the other day:

The recipes looked pretty good.

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Belafon  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:32:37pm

re: #109 Belafon

Reload

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No Malarkey!  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:34:00pm

A FB friend posted this about what the pandemic is like here in Kentucky:
“There was a nurse in the salon today, she works here in bowling green in the ER.
She said the average wait is 15-17 hours. And right now there are 23 patients they are now holding in the ER waiting for beds to come open in ICU. Which prevents them from getting others back to be seen. All 23 are unvaccinated , all 23 have said that they made a mistake and should have gotten it. All 23 are now asking to be vaccinated. They tell them that they are very sorry, but it is now too late. The national guard will be in bowling green tomorrow, setting up tents in the parking lot of the hospital to help. I pray that my friends or any of there family didn’t end up in the ER with appendicitis, kidney stones or a serious injury. Because you will be SHIT OUT OF LUCK. it’s getting worse daily instead of better. Stupidity , is continuing to do the same thing, but expecting a different outcome. Maybe you should be buying up some stock in refrigerated morgues that are filling up.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:36:08pm

Back from watching the cinematic masterpiece “Daphne and Velma.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:36:42pm

re: #111 No Malarkey!

And college football season starts in three days.

We’re fucked down here, y’all.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:41:24pm

re: #109 Belafon

I’ve had a few. They’re not bad. We make a few for our weekly game.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 25, 2021 • 9:53:20pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I don’t say it enough, but thank you to the LGF community for continuing to make this one of the best places to interact on the web without bullshit.

(certain anonymous rodents excepted) /s

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2021 • 10:26:38pm

re: #83 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Ze Bastard Dorka complains about vetting? I’ll trade 10 Hungarian fascist con-men for one honest Pakistani truck driver any time. I don’t think there would be any takers though.

Not only that, a Pakistani truck driver might bring the art of truck decoration to the USA. We could use some of these to liven up the road.

en.wikipedia.org

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mmmirele  Aug 25, 2021 • 10:38:09pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And the douchecanoe who threatened a Broward County school principal over his child not being allowed in the school without a mask and said he would come back, came back.

He also assaulted a child coming in the school wearing a mask. He has now been charged with child abuse and arrested.

Florida dad accused of pushing student, twisting her arm in school mask dispute (NBC News)

Another feral conservative off the streets. When conservatives don’t get their way, they get violent. I imagine his daughter is mortified at all this.

(more)

I don’t understand why he wasn’t charged with assault and battery. The child is not his kid. If he did this to an adult, it would absolutely be assault and battery. (Please do not tell me that this is because we have fucked up ideas about the amount and type of abuse we can impose on children because we’re adults. I might just lose it.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 10:54:54pm
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piratedan  Aug 25, 2021 • 11:02:55pm

re: #118 Dread Pirate Ron

well, perhaps its not so much that States can’t handle it, but more of a case of “they refuse” or “they won’t” handle it.

We’ve seen this with vaccines, Medicare expansion, and ACA exchanges. Now this.

If Congress attempts to drive this, then the states scream bloody murder, so in turn it goes over to the states and they either sit on it because helping people “would be bad” or “not what we’re about”; plus it could be conceived as a political victory for our political opponents, can’t have that, they can’t be fulfilling campaign promises if we fuck the end game over.

I’m not saying incompetence couldn’t be a factor here, I’m saying that it may be just one of multiple factors that all revolve around the current GOP political philosophy of “fuck you, we’re NOT going to do the right thing”.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 25, 2021 • 11:59:43pm

and my town is 88/82%.

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:12:31am

re: #119 piratedan

well, perhaps its not so much that States can’t handle it, but more of a case of “they refuse” or “they won’t” handle it.

We’ve seen this with vaccines, Medicare expansion, and ACA exchanges. Now this.

It goes back a lot further than this. The GI Bill. FHA subsidized mortgages. Farm subsidies.

If Congress attempts to drive this, then the states scream bloody murder, so in turn it goes over to the states and they either sit on it because helping people “would be bad” or “not what we’re about”;

What do you mean it’s for everyone? No no no, that’s not how we do things here. We’ll decide who deserves benefits paid for by our tax dollars and who deserves to do without.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:22:02am

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

I be confused. Do I have this right? ISIS-K is the sworn enemy of the Taliban and want to interfere with the evacuation to make everyone else look bad. And we won’t be able to continue the evacuations because of these threats. Meanwhile there are resistance fighters north of Kabul who have temporarily driven out the Taliban. Is everything descending into uncontrolled chaos?

Remember the “Chaos is beautiful” comments about the rioters in Iraq after we took over?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:23:39am

re: #16 jaunte

I wish news people would ditch this framing.

He lost that fight like Custer lost at Little Big Horn…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:26:47am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As usual, this is a problem of “just-in-time” capitalism. There is no built-in cushion for sudden demand.

Which creates myriad opportunities for price gouging…a feature of the system, not a bug.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:27:27am

re: #47 Belafon

Nearly everything around here in the Metroplex has a help wanted sign. And yet they can’t build apartments or houses fast enough to accommodate all of the people moving here.

nor are they going to pay them enough to cover the rent

126
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:33:59am

Wendell has caught up with the thread (and killed it)

I will display its head on a spit.

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:37:35am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wendell has caught up with the thread (and killed it)

I will display its head on a spit.

I’m actually up, but lurking…waiting for the medi-transport to get my parents here. Spoke to them 5 hours ago as they were passing Mono Lake - so about another hour or so and they should be here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:45:40am

It’s like being the last two living cells in a dead body…

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:48:53am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s like being the last two living cells in a dead body…

I suppose I could go climb the leaderboard at DuoLingo but I’m not in the mood…also, I realize I didn’t drink at all tonight…one shot of tequila at the casino after I checked into my room…dear god these Indian casinos have turned into high priced traps.

130
darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 12:49:47am

Of course, am I staying in my lovely suite? No. I’m on a couch in my parents’ condo surrounded by tacky throw pillows.

131
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:00:25am

I hardly drink anymore. Not because I have actively or consciously made an effort to cut down, I just don’t want to. Even when the opportunity presents itself, I never have more than one or two drinks.

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:11:04am

One a.m…90 degrees actually feels quite pleasant now compared to the 111 degrees it was at 6pm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:13:22am

re: #132 darthstar

One a.m…90 degrees actually feels quite pleasant now compared to the 111 degrees it was at 6pm.

I miss Arizona, but not Phoenix…

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:25:32am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I miss Arizona, but not Phoenix…

Makes me think of this song.

Furnace Fan

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:30:55am

I recall a time in the 70’s and 80’s when it would still cool off at night…those days are gone.

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:31:54am

Not that this is any great insight to anyone here, but it has been just accepted by the media that a drive-thru center to get a specific medicine for a deadly disease is anywhere near normal medical practice. Instead of being assessed by a competent medical expert and then assigned the treatment that best fits the needs, we just jump straight to the self-diagnosis and administration of the wonder drug du jour.

Of course, it’s just another version of the snake oil that will cure what ails ya, DOCTORS HATE THIS. In this case, the snake oil is actually an effective treatment, but the mentality is the same. Because god forbid some pointy-headed know-it-all is gonna tell you what to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:37:08am

re: #136 ericblair

This is all about distracting from the disaster that DeSantis has allowed to happen.

“See? We’re doing something!”

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 1:55:45am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is all about distracting from the disaster that DeSantis has allowed to happen.

“See? We’re doing something!”

Yes, but it’s something very specific: Don’t try to prevent the disease: that’s fascism AND communism with a side order of wokeness! However, if you do get sick from this both nonexistent and China-made disease, here’s a wonder drug for what ails ya. Oh yeah, my pals make some money off the side here, and give some of that to me, but a man’s gotta eat, right?

Preventing the disease would make you a good and conscientious citizen who cares about the people around you, so we can’t have that. Better to selfishly preen about your strength and purity and moral goodness, then elbow your way to the front of the line for a wonder drug when all that doesn’t seem to work.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:00:53am

re: #111 No Malarkey!

Sounds to me like it’s time to make a brutal call. “You’re not vaccinated? Too bad, so sad, bye bye.” Give ‘em a couple ibuprofen and say, “Good luck, buddy.”

Seriously. People need the ER for things other than COVID-19 - as the article notes - such as appendicitis, or a heart attack/stroke, auto accidents, etc. Unvaccinated COVID-19 sufferers? Zero priority.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:01:35am

re: #138 ericblair

and making a lot of money for his campaign donors in the process

it is all terribly sick, the kind of stuff that even Carl Hiaasen would be hard put to describe in one of his Florida novels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:03:25am

A friend’s husband was in a car accident last spring in Tucson; suffered a crushed chest and broken ribs, had to put on a ventilator. Had they all been taken by boneheaded, contrarian vaccine refuseniks, he would no longer be with us…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:09:00am

re: #138 ericblair

Yes, but it’s something very specific: Don’t try to prevent the disease: that’s fascism AND communism with a side order of wokeness! However, if you do get sick from this both nonexistent and China-made disease, here’s a wonder drug for what ails ya. Oh yeah, my pals make some money off the side here, and give some of that to me, but a man’s gotta eat, right?

Preventing the disease would make you a good and conscientious citizen who cares about the people around you, so we can’t have that. Better to selfishly preen about your strength and purity and moral goodness, then elbow your way to the front of the line for a wonder drug when all that doesn’t seem to work.

Alabama doctor assessed the effectiveness of the early-pandemic effectiveness of Ivermectin:
“Even on the ivermectin, people who were going to be on the ventilators managed to end up on the ventilators, and people who were going to die managed to end up dying,” Magadia said.
al.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:35:17am

And again: if hydroxychloroquine had turned out to be the least bit effective in treating Covid-19, Trump would not only still be President, he would be hailed as a genius, avatar, slayer of liberal elitist scientists and Savior of America.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:39:57am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And again: if hydroxychloroquine had turned out to be the least bit effective in treating Covid-19, Trump would not only still be President, he would be hailed as a genius, avatar, slayer of liberal elitist scientists and Savior of America.

There was a magic moment when he could have endorsed masks, distancing, and shutdowns all to the same effect. (That’s where Nate Silver was inartfully heading yesterday.) Trump didn’t have it in him.

Asshole is as asshole does.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:42:24am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

There was a magic moment when he could have endorsed masks, distancing, and shutdowns all to the same effect. (That’s where Nate Silver was inartfully heading yesterday.) Trump didn’t have it in him.

Asshole is as asshole does.

A true President can rally the nation around him even in times of crisis. But that calls for leadership, which he does not have, just bullying and berating.

So he tried to deny and deflect from the crisis while simultaneously playing it down and blaming everyone and anyone else he could for the undeniable results.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:47:23am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hardly drink anymore. Not because I have actively or consciously made an effort to cut down, I just don’t want to. Even when the opportunity presents itself, I never have more than one or two drinks.

Same. Before COVID I had 1 maybe 2 drinks when I went out for various social things. 2-4 times a month tops.

Because of COVID I pretty much stopped drinking altogether. I did not intentionally do it, it just happened.

Since February 2020 I can count the number of times I’ve had an alcoholic beverage on the fingers of a Turian’s hand.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:48:43am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump had the minimum intellectual and moral capacity for the job a couple hundred thousand of our dead would still be alive. And the US would face a hundred years of barbarism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 2:52:28am

re: #146 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Since February 2020 I can count the number of times I’ve had an alcoholic beverage on the fingers of a Turian’s hand.

I recently filled out a questionnaire on alcohol “When was the ls last time you had more than six drinks?”

Probably spring of 2009 by my reckoning.

I recall going through an entire bottle of wine at Easter, but that was over dinner and the course of the evening.

I have stopped opening bottles of wine at home unless there is company because at least half of it winds up going acidic and being used for cooking.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:08:44am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is all about distracting from the disaster that DeSantis has allowed to happen.

“See? We’re doing something!”

Or perpetrated. All these orders against masks and vaccines are deliberate, not some terrible accident.

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William Lewis  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:26:07am

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Suddenly I want a drink with a paper umbrella.

And fruit. Gotta have it stuck through bit’s of fruit if you have a paper umbrella.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:26:52am

Mississippi Agriculture and Commerce Commissioner Andy Gipson was using his official government Facebook account to note Mississippi is struggling with Covid-19 and now is the time to invoke God to “calm the storm.”

Gipson is also a Baptist minister.

As Hemant Mehta notes, he would have done more good by walking over a few feet to talk to his Republican colleges to stop making things objectively worse.

Instead, he’s drawn fire from the Freedom from Religion Foundation for using his office to promote his religion over the religion of others and those with none using official accounts of the State of Mississippi, and promoting the idea that any sort of prayer is better than what physicians, epidemiologists, and researchers have recommended.

Gipson notes his call to Christian prayer is justified because “In God We Trust” is in the Mississippi State Seal. This is an example of how a so-called legally-secular phrase is then leveraged into Christian Nationalism as soon as you get a person who thinks their faith trumps reason, and is willing to leverage the power of the State to promote their faith.

Mississippi State Commissioner’s Covid Solution: Now Is the Time for Prayer

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:36:15am

In good television news, the fourteenth season of “Archer” has begun.

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:41:32am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

There was a magic moment when he could have endorsed masks, distancing, and shutdowns all to the same effect. (That’s where Nate Silver was inartfully heading yesterday.) Trump didn’t have it in him.

Asshole is as asshole does.

I’m not so sure about this. In the early stages, it was a problem for foreigners and city libtards, and now you want us God-fearing Real Americans to inconvenience ourselves and question our natural strength and purity? Really? And put VACCINES in our sacred bodies?

Trump got booed when he told the rabble a few days ago to get vaccinated. Now the obvious rejoinder is that the inmates are now running the asylum and don’t listen to anyone anymore, but I don’t think you can assume that wasn’t true a year and a half ago. Trump is a skilled conman (his only skill), but he was always taking the MAGAts where they wanted to go because he is one of them, only rich and famous. He understands them and can talk to them because he’s a bitter old white racist who watches FOX News, just like them.

So if he had somehow gone against his programming and tried this, I think he would have been booed down then too and quickly shifted gears to the shitshow we ended up with.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:42:57am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On the official Facebook page of the Agriculture and Commerce Minister (used in the American sense here, not the parliamentary sense), he includes a video with a call to prayer.

(video, 3:14 at the link)

FFRF has called on the Commissioner to pull down that religious reference and other explicitly religious calls under the state seal and flag of Mississippi on the official sites of the state. If he wants to do that on his private accounts, that is fine.

Stand by for Mississippi tax payers pay to defend an unconstitutional stance by your Ag and Commerce Commissioner, no doubt blamed on “out-of-state agitators.” (It’s funny how that Civil Rights Era claim keeps coming up, from Jim Crow to women’s rights to religious rights.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:47:01am

re: #153 ericblair

I’m not so sure. The huge mass of conservative anti-vaxxers didn’t simply appear; that position has been more a crunchy granola-mom sort of thing.

He led them there. He lied about getting the vaccine himself because he had already spun up the conservative base to oppose it. His favourite outlets parroted that position to reinforce it. He led them on with such things as hydroxychloriquine, and promoting quacks as real medicine.

He was booed because he expressed a heretical position for the conservative faith.

Shame works both ways. It can be used to shame someone expressing a RINO position back in line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:54:32am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not so sure. The huge mass of conservative anti-vaxxers didn’t simply appear; that position has been more a crunchy granola-mom sort of thing.

there were crunchy granola moms who distrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine, and then you have the Wingnuts and MAGATs who distrust Big Government and Modern Science.

If the latter were led to an anti-vax position, it was a short walk…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:54:36am

Two years ago, the valedictorian of the 2019 class at Brigham Young University used his speech to proudly come out as gay.

He got a lot of support from the LGBT+ community at the time, but he also remained committed to the Mormon church, meaning he has locked himself out of most of the “benefits” of being a member of that church, and must remain celibate.

Elder Jeffery R. Holland of the LDS Church (one of the church’s apostles) addressed the issue of the church’s uniqueness in Christianity, notably by doubling-down on the anti-LGBT+ rhetoric of the church.

(Goes to the official YouTube newsroom of the LDS Church, 39:50)

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland Urges BYU to Embrace Its Uniqueness, Stay True to the Savior

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 3:55:50am

re: #153 ericblair

I’m not so sure about this. In the early stages, it was a problem for foreigners and city libtards, and now you want us God-fearing Real Americans to inconvenience ourselves and question our natural strength and purity? Really? And put VACCINES in our sacred bodies?

Trump got booed when he told the rabble a few days ago to get vaccinated. Now the obvious rejoinder is that the inmates are now running the asylum and don’t listen to anyone anymore, but I don’t think you can assume that wasn’t true a year and a half ago. Trump is a skilled conman (his only skill), but he was always taking the MAGAts where they wanted to go because he is one of them, only rich and famous. He understands them and can talk to them because he’s a bitter old white racist who watches FOX News, just like them.

So if he had somehow gone against his programming and tried this, I think he would have been booed down then too and quickly shifted gears to the shitshow we ended up with.

The insanity he coddled is dynamic. The RW nutcases could have been led to the correct attitude early-on. (Most of them sent their kids to schools that required an array of pediatric vaxxes, and those who were ex-military got shot up against everything they might encounter.) Once he chose dipshittery, they elaborated it and sanctified it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:01:50am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there were crunchy granola moms who distrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine, and then you have the Wingnuts and MAGATs who distrust Big Government and Modern Science.

If the latter were led to an anti-vax position, it was a short walk…

And the libertarian “you’re not the boss of me” types.

Anti-vax positions traditionally have not been a particularly partisan or religious issue (except for a very few churches). Trump, followed by all the bleating GOP reps, senators, propaganda outlets, with a healthy push from bad actors outside the country, pushed anti-vax into a primarily conservative and Christian position.

Ohio isn’t just writing a law to prohibit demands for proof of a Covid-19 vaccine, they are writing a law to prohibit demands for any vaccine.

Montana wrote anti-vax positions into state Civil Rights law, because an anti-vax position is an immutable characteristic like race or gender.

Tennessee was roundly humiliated from the entire world when they tried to repeal all vaccination mandates.

Our country and others will issue travel alerts to certain areas of other countries, or prohibit travel from those certain areas to their own countries.

I can see the day coming where other countries start banning travel from any GOP-controlled state which refuses to follow best public health practices for the safety of their own citizens.

As much as I’d like to take that train trip across Canada, I would not blame that country if they banned travellers who live in Nebraska because our state is suppressing all Covid-19 reporting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:05:29am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there were crunchy granola moms who distrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine, and then you have the Wingnuts and MAGATs who distrust Big Government and Modern Science.

If the latter were led to an anti-vax position, it was a short walk…

“Wingnut” should never be capitalised, except as the first word of a sentence, or as a formal title (Wingnut Smith). Otherwise, my liberal grammar book says it should be made as small as possible.

wingnut

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:05:31am

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And the libertarian “you’re not the boss of me” types.

Anti-vax positions traditionally have not been a particularly partisan or religious issue (except for a very few churches). Trump, followed by all the bleating GOP reps, senators, propaganda outlets, with a healthy push from bad actors outside the country, pushed anti-vax into a primarily conservative and Christian position.

Ohio isn’t just writing a law to prohibit demands for proof of a Covid-19 vaccine, they are writing a law to prohibit demands for any vaccine.

Montana wrote anti-vax positions into state Civil Rights law, because an anti-vax position is an immutable characteristic like race or gender.

Tennessee was roundly humiliated from the entire world when they tried to repeal all vaccination mandates.

Our country and others will issue travel alerts to certain areas of other countries, or prohibit travel from those certain areas to their own countries.

I can see the day coming where other countries start banning travel from any GOP-controlled state which refuses to follow best public health practices for the safety of their own citizens.

As much as I’d like to take that train trip across Canada, I would not blame that country if they banned travellers who live in Nebraska because our state is suppressing all Covid-19 reporting.

And there was a feedback loop between the street-level dimwits, the exploitive RW media, and Trump. He picked up the chloro, sheepdip, UV nonsense from them, then amplified it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:07:33am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed bad BB code tags, recycle comment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:07:57am

And a lot of Americans have always had a preference for folksy, home-grown remedies and solutions over all that fancy scientific laboratory/government stuff, that played right into all the hydroxychloroquinine and Invermectin nonsense.

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:09:08am

re: #158 Decatur Deb

The insanity he coddled is dynamic. The RW nutcases could have been led to the correct attitude early-on. (Most of them sent their kids to schools that required an array of pediatric vaxxes, and those who were ex-military got shot up against everything they might encounter.) Once he chose dipshittery, they elaborated it and sanctified it.

There’s a good article of the anti-vax movement here. Anti-vax sentiment is part and parcel of the right wing online paranoia that has taken off in the last few years because of social media. Yes, most of them had their kids vaxed without thinking about it too much, but that was years ago. Now they’re thoroughly radicalized.

From the article: “For the years 2001, 2015 and 2019, the percentage of Democrats who say it is either extremely or very important for parents to vaccinate their children has moved from 97% to 88% to 92%. For the same time points, Republicans went from 93% to 82% to 79%.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:11:44am

Way to go, USL League One. The soccer team Omaha United was formed last year.

Union Omaha player charged in romance scam allowed to return to team activities (Omaha World-Herald)

The Union Omaha soccer player charged in a romance scam that authorities said took more than $214,000 from two people will return to team activities, team officials said Wednesday.

Abdul Osumanu was arrested in May by federal authorities. A grand jury had indicted him and a codefendant in connection with two online romance schemes from years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:13:04am

re: #164 ericblair

Huh. Maybe it is more of the science thing. Trump certainly supercharged it though.

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William Lewis  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:15:21am

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

― Issac Asimov

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:15:54am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In good television news, the fourteenth season of “Archer” has begun.

Have they topped their 11th season opening? Because that was pretty badass….

Archer Season 11 Super Cool Opening Scene [HD]

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:16:12am

re: #164 ericblair

Immediately before the section you cited:

Trump, it should be pointed out, is the first American president to be on the record as having anti-vaccine views, an influence that cannot be ignored. A survey involving Americans who voted in the 2016 presidential election revealed that Trump voters expressed more vaccine concern (specifically about the MMR vaccine, wrongly linked to autism) than non-Trump voters, a result which the authors conclude was explained by their conspiracist ideation. This association between the current right-wing of American politics and questioning the value and safety of vaccines can also be seen in Gallup polls.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:16:25am

re: #164 ericblair

There’s a good article of the anti-vax movement here. Anti-vax sentiment is part and parcel of the right wing online paranoia that has taken off in the last few years because of social media. Yes, most of them had their kids vaxed without thinking about it too much, but that was years ago. Now they’re thoroughly radicalized.

From the article: “For the years 2001, 2015 and 2019, the percentage of Democrats who say it is either extremely or very important for parents to vaccinate their children has moved from 97% to 88% to 92%. For the same time points, Republicans went from 93% to 82% to 79%.”

Behind all of it is a deep outsider’s suspicion that feeds the whole spectrum of conspiracy theories. “The CDC is trying to kill us” is rooted in the same belief system that thinks Cape Kennedy is a sound stage. The XX Century was too much for these people—there’s no way they will sign up for the XXIst.

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:16:47am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Huh. Maybe it is more of the science thing. Trump certainly supercharged it though.

I think so, and Trump supercharged it because that’s the MAGAt piece of shit that he is. He wouldn’t have told his base to be responsible, and even if he did they wouldn’t have listened. It doesn’t make him any less morally culpable.

When the GOP handed the keys to its paranoid nativist racist base, the result was baked in the cake.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:19:57am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

Have they topped their 11th season opening? Because that was pretty badass….

I don’t know that the fourteenth season opener topped that, but it was pretty good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:21:00am

re: #167 William Lewis

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

― Issac Asimov

I think that stems from a sense of cultural and technological inferiority complex towards Europe in the 18th & 19th centuries. The notion that we might be backwards, but we are morally superior to those decadent Euroweenies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:21:48am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

I blame the X-Files. Conspiracy on FOX as entertainment. (Well, not really, I just like to say that.)

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ericblair  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:21:57am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Behind all of it is a deep outsider’s suspicion that feeds the whole spectrum of conspiracy theories. “The CDC is trying to kill us” is rooted in the same belief system that thinks Cape Kennedy is a sound stage. The XX Century was too much for these people—there’s no way they will sign up for the XXIst.

I think this explains the red-green-brown convergence (horseshoe theory) as well. Paranoia, obsession with purity, obsession with the Good Old Days (either 1800 AD or 1800 BC) and how everything was better, and how there’s One Weird Trick to solving every problem that fancy-pants modern science is keeping from you. Plus the granola yoga moms and anti-imperialists who turned out to be spittle-flecked racists when you scratched the paint a bit.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:25:15am

Off to get voter registration materials to the community college in the next county. We’re going to post a League flyer with a QR code that takes a student’s phone to the state online VR form.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:42:00am

re: #158 Decatur Deb

The insanity he coddled is dynamic. The RW nutcases could have been led to the correct attitude early-on. (Most of them sent their kids to schools that required an array of pediatric vaxxes, and those who were ex-military got shot up against everything they might encounter.) Once he chose dipshittery, they elaborated it and sanctified it.

The same folks who question “what’s in the vaccine” are the ones who don’t question what’s in Regeneron, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, &c.

They do what their religious leaders tell them to do.

There is a meme floating around of someone reading off a bunch of scary-sounding chemical names as an ingredient list, with an anti-vaxxer saying they wouldn’t take that. It’s then revealed those are the chemicals found in a common apple, demonstrating the anti-vaxxer really doesn’t know what the fuque he’s talking about; his ignorance is as good as your knowledge.

On the other hand, conspiracy theorists like flat-earthers, and religious believers really do believe in research, questioning paradigms, and the idea science is respected, by using things that seem like science or history to prove their positions.

So you get the flat-earther who flies on a plane and holds a bubble level and the bubble never moves, “proving” the earth really is flat. Creationists will try to debunk scientific positions (which is part of science), but offer nothing to replace what they claim is debunked.

When forced into a corner (I’ll pay you to fly from Santiago to Sydney, a direct flight which goes over Antarctica, to prove there isn’t an ice wall around the earth and that Antarctica really exists and you can see it or prove me wrong), they will back out to protect their faith over facts. (I lump the true believer of flat earth nonsense in with any other religion, because it cannot be altered by facts.)

It’s why religious people believe their religion gives them morals, or conservatives believe their hierarchies properly sort out those who are deserving from those who are not. If those things are shown not to be true (a moral atheist, or a non-hierarchical system which produces better outcomes), the faith in those things must be protected at all costs, including violence. The alternative is to give up that faith.

Faith is also taught, whether flat-earth, conservatism, or religion (organised or not). It’s not an accident they all believe the same wrong things and shun facts opposing their faith: They have incorporated “what they believe” into “who I am.”

No baby is born a flat-earther, a Christian, a racist, a conservative, &c. For someone who has never been any of those things, I cannot understand (quoting the tagline of Temperance Brennan of Bones: “I don’t know what that means.”

To the flat-earther, one not only has to believe in a conspiracy to cover up the truth of the shape of the earth, you have to believe that conspiracy has gone on since the dawn of aviation in balloons. For hundreds of year millions and millions of people have engaged in some sort of cover-up that has no apparent purpose and no apparent ends.

While most religious people are never violent, some will resort to shunning you and some will become violent (even killing) if a person exists in their space (such as an LGBT child or an atheist neighbour). Children are thrown out of homes or killed every year in this country over religious beliefs, by parents who value their beliefs over their child. They cannot admit the belief might be wrong.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:53:05am

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steve_davis  Aug 26, 2021 • 4:59:10am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recently filled out a questionnaire on alcohol “When was the ls last time you had more than six drinks?”

Probably spring of 2009 by my reckoning.

I recall going through an entire bottle of wine at Easter, but that was over dinner and the course of the evening.

I have stopped opening bottles of wine at home unless there is company because at least half of it winds up going acidic and being used for cooking.

I will be into the remaining half of the bottle of biltmore wines pinot noir I opened last night, and it will be delicious! sometime later today. I mostly buy and drink boxed wines so that when I actually buy a 16 dollar bottle of wine, it tastes like I’m drinking Opus One or something.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:00:03am

If you remember from last night, because Fagradalsfjall had been in fog and rain for days all the image we could post from livestreams was a red soup of fog, with the outlines of a huge pool of lava that was heading for the cliff down into Natthagi valley.

Well that pool of lava finally made it down the cliff:

CRAZY FLOW OF LAVA HEADS TO THE OCEAN, AUGUST 26🌋🔥☄💥

..

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:21:19am

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

Have they topped their 11th season opening? Because that was pretty badass….

[Embedded content]

That there was a triumph tr-6

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:24:36am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

+1

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William Lewis  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:25:11am

re: #181 Dangerman

That there was a triumph tr-6

Triumph & Lotus. My two favorite car companies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:35:03am

re: #72 Belafon

Someone has all of these languages on Duolingo. I would argue that Irish is the odd one in the list:

[Embedded content]

MrBWS and I have been doing the Irish Duolingo for a while now

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:35:06am

Well, this isn’t good news…..

Japan has suspended the use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine after reports of contamination in several vials, drugmaker Takeda and the health ministry have said.

Takeda Pharmaceutical Company, which is in charge of sales and distribution of the Moderna shot in Japan, on Thursday said it had “received reports from several vaccination centres that foreign substances have been found inside unopened vials”.

“Upon consultation with the health ministry, we have decided to suspend the use of the vaccine” from three whole batches from Thursday, it added.

The firm said it had informed Moderna and “requested an urgent investigation”. Moderna did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

aljazeera.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:36:31am

re: #181 Dangerman

That there was a triumph tr-6

I knew it was a Triumph, as they were pretty popular back in the day, but didn’t know which one.

Loved the “Screaming for Van-geance” gag.

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:49:07am

New York Times: “The White House economic team has lowered informal internal forecasts for growth this year, citing supply constraints and possible consumer response to the renewed spread of the virus.”

So who’s dragging it down????

Bloomberg Businessweek: “The geography of America’s economic engine is heavily concentrated in counties that Joe Biden won in 2020. These counties are much more heavily vaccinated than the rest of the country and thus better able to withstand the economic effects of Covid’s delta variant.”

“The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:51:28am

On the subject of Judas Priest, today is frontman Rob Halford’s 70th birthday.

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:52:15am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

I knew it was a Triumph, as they were pretty popular back in the day, but didn’t know which one.

Loved the “Screaming for Van-geance” gag.

I had a red ‘74 for about 35 years. Let it go 2 years ago

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Ming5000  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:52:19am

re: #38 stpaulbear

I just picked up three prescriptions at Walgreens. Been a customer of theirs for ages. I should send them an email. There are lots of other pharmacies close to me.

The store I go to already had their Halloween candy display in place. Both sides of half an aisle. If it would have been on sale, I would have succumbed.

I succumbed. Candy Corn.

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:52:50am

re: #187 Dangerman

The GOP will create the conditions that slow the economy down, and then complain that Biden’s economy is suffering. The areas with the worst economic conditions are the GOP controlled areas.

The areas with the worst economic conditions are the areas where covid is spreading out of control precisely because the GOP death cult doesn’t care how many get sick or die, and are knowingly making conditions worse in the cynical hope that this somehow dings Biden. They know the media will both sides this, when there’s only one side here that is engaging in misconduct: the GOP.

Oh, and if the economy slows, that means that inflation isn’t nearly the issue the GOP makes it out to be, because demand will slacken - which is one half of the supply/demand equation. Global shortages due to covid continue to push certain prices higher.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:53:01am

A University of Nebraska regent has been charged with witness tampering in covering up a rape.

He ran for the District 2 seat claiming he’s not a politician (weird flex running for an elected position). He is a Republican (colour me shocked).

The board is officially non-partisan, comprised of eight elected regents and several student regents from each campus (who represent the students but cannot vote on policy).

NU regent Jack Stark charged with felony count of witness tampering (Omaha World-Herald)

A University of Nebraska regent was arrested and charged Wednesday with a felony count of witness tampering on allegations that he encouraged a former Nebraska football player to not testify on behalf of a weightlifting coach accused of rape.

Jack Stark, a sports psychologist who was elected to the NU Board of Regents in 2020, made his first appearance before a judge Wednesday and was released on his own recognizance.

Stark, 74, is accused of trying to dissuade Willie Miller, a former fullback at Nebraska, from testifying at the trial of Douglas Anders, who owned a workout facility for bodybuilders. If convicted, Stark would face up to five years probation or two years in prison.

Stark was the team psychologist from 1989 to 2004. Miller was a fullback from 1996 to 2000.

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:53:12am
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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:54:24am

re: #185 Dr Lizardo

It’s a vaccine moderna licensed to produce in Japan, and the local producer fucked up. That’s the headline. It’s the same kind of problem J&J experienced when the Baltimore area pharma company had to destroy millions of doses due to contamination issues.

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:55:37am

re: #190 Ming5000

I succumbed. Candy Corn.

Just don’t do this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 5:56:01am

re: #194 lawhawk

It’s a vaccine moderna licensed to produce in Japan, and the local producer fucked up. That’s the headline. It’s the same kind of problem J&J experienced when the Baltimore area pharma company had to destroy millions of doses due to contamination issues.

Yeah - article notes that the vaccines in question were produced in Spain, so there must’ve been a serious QC failure at that particular facility.

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Dangerman  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:00:59am
Washington Post: “More than 17,000 people are currently hospitalized with Covid-19 in Florida, which has the most hospitalizations for Covid-19 of any state in the country.”

We’re #1!

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jeffreyw  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:01:07am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:13:20am
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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:15:34am
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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:16:38am
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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:19:17am

re: #200 Teukka

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:19:19am

LOL old man yells at cloud:

thedailybeast.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:20:16am

re: #199 Belafon

IOW, “Hey, y’all want that money we’re holding onto, don’t ya?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:23:08am

A More Secular America Is Not Just a Problem for Republicans (New York Times, opinion by Ryan Burge, professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University and a Baptist pastor, yesterday)

He dispenses right away with the Republican Party in the piece, as they are now essentially the Christian Party. As the USA becomes more non-religious, that makes an existential problem for the party. Sometimes overlooked is over half of white Protestants of all denominations voted for Donald Trump.

His essay is on the more diverse Democratic Party. The numbers don’t lie; each generation is successively more atheistic, and those atheists vote for Democrats. However, the most reliable voting block in the Democratic Party is Black Protestants, who take very progressive positions on economic policy while taking extremely conservative positions on social policy. The Democratic Party’s issue is keeping its diverse coalition of social liberal atheists and social conservative Christians together as a coherent group.

Since 1988, the General Social Survey has been asking Americans of different ages what they believe about God. For decades, the answer did not change much. Around 70 percent of members of the Silent Generation said that they “know God really exists” and “have no doubts about it.” That same sentiment was shared by about 63 percent of baby boomers and Generation Xers.

But in 2018, millennials expressed a lot less certainty. Only 44 percent had no doubts about the existence of God. Even more doubtful were members of Generation Z — just one-third claimed certain belief in God.

Today, scholars are finding that by almost any metric they use to measure religiosity, younger generations are much more secular than their parents or grandparents. In responses to survey questions, over 40 percent of the youngest Americans claim no religious affiliation, and just a quarter say they attend religious services weekly or more.

This is why Omaha state senator Megan Hunt, running as an atheist, had to head off Democratic attacks rather than Republican ones, over religion (which she won). Megan Hunt won by appealing to non-Christian views on social issues.

At the same time, Democrats must not take for granted the increasing number of atheists and agnostics in their coalition. Atheists provide a particularly difficult problem for Democrats. When asked to place themselves in ideological space, the average atheist sees the Democratic Party as becoming more conservative over the last three years, while they themselves have become more liberal. Data indicates that atheists are the most politically active religious group in the United States in recent years. In a 2018 survey, atheists were twice as likely to donate money or work for a political candidate as white evangelicals. Atheists want the Democratic Party to become more progressive and are unlikely to remain silent if they don’t see changes.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:25:07am

re: #200 Teukka

He makes a damn good point.

Here in Czech Republic, you don’t even need to go through all that nonsense. Just pay your doctor $50, and they’ll inject the vaccine straight down the goddamn sink and print up a certificate showing you’ve been vaccinated.

And everyone knows this - and no one cares.

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Mattand  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:30:57am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I may have to send Senator Hunt a donation. Running as an atheist in NJ would be difficult at best; I can imagine it’s only harder in NE.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:32:40am

We’ll see if Ohio tries to force OSU to accept the unvaccinated.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:33:11am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

America’s two largest political parties cannot stay in their current ideological arrangements forever.

If one looks closely at American history, one can see that a party’s name may stay the same but the underlying composition and beliefs change.

Essentially, “Democratic” and “Republican” are just branding names used for marketing.

It would not surprise me if the GOP went through a whiplash before 2050, with a collapse of the death cult we call the “religious right” due to in-fighting. The GOP can then re-emerge as a nationalistic but not Christian-theocracy party. But for that to happen the GOP has to go through several more years of confusion over its religious identity.

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Mattand  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:33:31am

re: #198 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Your random NJ fact: the eastern goldfinch is the NJ state bird.

I almost never see them in my yard, but if I walk half a mile to the historic farmhouse, which has been turned into a community garden and backs up to woods, they’re all over the place.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:34:14am

re: #207 Mattand

I may have to send Senator Hunt a donation. Running as an atheist in NJ would be difficult at best; I can imagine it’s only harder in NE.

She has a lot of kewl swag on her campaign site as well.

Outside help is always appreciated here by Democrats; we’re fighting an uphill battle.

meganfornebraska.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:36:39am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A true President can rally the nation around him even in times of crisis. But that calls for leadership, which he does not have, just bullying and berating.

So he tried to deny and deflect from the crisis while simultaneously playing it down and blaming everyone and anyone else he could for the undeniable results.

That may have been true in the past, but we are so divided now, red vs blue, that may no longer be possible. Do you really think we would have rallied around Trump under any circumstances? We may have followed the science, worn masks etc, but actually support Trump?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:38:28am

re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

More from the piece:

But it appears very much that there is something of an expiration date on this wave of religious conservatives. The share of Americans who identify as white Christians has rapidly declined over the last several decades. There’s ample evidence to believe that less than half of Americans today are in this key constituency for Republicans. The decline has come about as a result of a combination of demographic changes: America has become more multiracial, and larger shares of Americans are jettisoning Christianity and either aligning with other religions or are leaving religion behind entirely and joining the ranks of the religious Nones.

Republican Party leaders are faced with a seemingly impossible task: Continue to feed red meat to their Christian base while also finding ways to reach out to young people who are increasingly irreligious and racially diverse. Sure, there is anecdotal evidence that some members of the New Atheist movement have begun to embrace conservative positions on issues of race. But there’s little reason to believe that secular voters are going to become a core part of the Republican electorate any time soon.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:39:11am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We need to remember too that religiosity among blacks in the US is tied to the history of post Civil War life for black people in the South. The local congregation is what made for social cohesion and hope in political struggles.

As such, many Americans who identify as black are very much tied to this history.

In other words, I do not expect a cultural change in the Democratic party as quickly as I think it will occur in the GOP. As long as the Democratic party does not adopt policies that promote the elimination of historically black churches, I think the Democratic party will be fine. Religious black Democrats can work with atheists when it comes to governance.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:39:45am

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

That may have been true in the past, but we are so divided now, red vs blue, that may no longer be possible. Do you really think we would have rallied around Trump under any circumstances? We may have followed the science, worn masks etc, but actually support Trump?

For myself personally, if Trump had actually found it in him to do the right things regarding the pandemic, I would have argued against anyone who tried to fight him on it, basically saying, “I don’t like the rest of what he does, but in this one case, the stopped clock is right, and we need to do what he says until he starts disagreeing with experts and doing his own thing.” (Between you and me, I feel that would have been inevitable, even if he had started out on the right track.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:43:27am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Post pandemic, I wonder what the Pew and Gallup surveys of Americans wrt religion will show. Will there be a noticeable step down in the % self identifying as “Evangelical”?

Along these lines, I was watching a Youtube video a couple of weeks ago, by a guy who is studying the Bible in a true academic setting, and he relayed that while on his last trip staying with pastors that said pastors indicated they have seen people in their congregation who were unhappy that the church didn’t push the Trump-madness. So it seems that the hard core fascist-loving Christians are increasingly unhappy with even evangelical pastors/churches who are not into right-wing politics.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:45:03am

re: #200 Teukka

Important question needs to be asked: What is the number of severe breakthrough cases, and how many may actually be non-vaxxed that appear as vaxxed because they bought the card?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:45:54am

Someone turned my neighbour’s alarm chicken off. The chicken has been going off ever since sunrise.

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:46:17am
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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:48:26am

re: #217 Teukka

Important question needs to be asked: What is the number of severe breakthrough cases, and how many may actually be non-vaxxed that appear as vaxxed because they bought the card?

[EDIT: Dammit, used the deprecated antivaxxer/hesistant nickname again. My Bad]

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Amory Blaine  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:48:40am

Sometimes, memes write themselves.

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Ming5000  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:49:49am

A change for Politico.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:51:35am

re: #217 Teukka

Important question needs to be asked: What is the number of severe breakthrough cases, and how many may actually be non-vaxxed that appear as vaxxed because they bought the card?

That would be tough to answer without a titer test for antibodies.

If the system has been significantly corrupted with fraudulent entries, it would difficult to sort out so-called breakthrough infections.

I wish the CDC had come up with a card with counterfeit-defeating elements in it, like used in currency.

With Trump in charge and a strict “the states are on their own” policy, each came up with a different system to track who is vaccinated and who is not. As noted in the video, the fraudster in question is actively seeking out people in positions like state health departments or pharmacies to help them subvert the data, and it seems to pay very well.

The courts need to go extremely harsh on such people, and prosecutors need to charge everything they can: Fraud against the state or the United States, conspiracy to defraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, unauthorised access to government computer systems. In the case of healthcare workers such as a pharmacist or nurse, there’s a case where HIPAA actually applies.

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Ming5000  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:52:23am

re: #222 Ming5000

A change for Politico.

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Might not be a huge shift though:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:52:54am

re: #219 lawhawk

Pentagon Press Secretary.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:55:50am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That would be tough to answer without a titer test for antibodies.

If the system has been significantly corrupted with fraudulent entries, it would difficult to sort out so-called breakthrough infections.

I wish the CDC had come up with a card with counterfeit-defeating elements in it, like used in currency.

With Trump in charge and a strict “the states are on their own” policy, each came up with a different system to track who is vaccinated and who is not. As noted in the video, the fraudster in question is actively seeking out people in positions like state health departments or pharmacies to help them subvert the data, and it seems to pay very well.

The courts need to go extremely harsh on such people, and prosecutors need to charge everything they can: Fraud against the state or the United States, conspiracy to defraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, unauthorised access to government computer systems. In the case of healthcare workers such as a pharmacist or nurse, there’s a case where HIPAA actually applies.

Yeah. One way could possibly be the staff being OCD about verifying vaccination status, do they keep records on who got the jab at vaxx sites?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:57:30am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Behind all of it is a deep outsider’s suspicion that feeds the whole spectrum of conspiracy theories. “The CDC is trying to kill us” is rooted in the same belief system that thinks Cape Kennedy is a sound stage. The XX Century was too much for these people—there’s no way they will sign up for the XXIst.

Last night, I watched the HBO documentary “In the Same Breath”, an excellent film by a Chinese American filmmaker who was visiting her family in China at the beginning of the epidemic. It shows the Chinese and American responses at that time — which were in some respects remarkably similar. First, once can say that the failure of the Chinese to be honest at that time was damaging to the possibility of stopping the disease in its tracks. But the scenes of Dr. Fauci early on should also give us pause on our failure to be honest about the danger this disease posed to the American public. Michael Lewis recent book “The Premonition” presented a less than flattering description of the CDC and its role in combatting diseases — that it got burned in the 1970’s and has been overly cautious and timid since then.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 26, 2021 • 6:58:46am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:02:34am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:05:28am

re: #226 Teukka

Yeah. One way could possibly be the staff being OCD about verifying vaccination status, do they keep records on who got the jab at vaxx sites?

That depends on which state. Earlier someone was asking here how to replace a lost CDC card, and was directed to the state Website for that information.

In Nebraska we are told to contact the Public Health District or provider which provided the vaccine, and if they can’t help there is a special number at the University of Nebraska Medical Center to call.

In my case, since I got my vaccine at the VA in January, I presume I would contact the Cheyenne VAMC.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:05:38am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:05:43am

re: #222 Ming5000

A change for Politico.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:07:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:07:53am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The other day I noted that an ISIS-K suicide bomber could really throw a monkeywrench into everything, especially if said suicide bombing produced major casualties.

I hope that I’m wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:08:40am

re: #233 ckkatz

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Dammit.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:09:22am

Morning Lizards. Hope y’all have a good one today.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:10:16am

Now vaxholes have added “sexual assault” to “Holocaust 2.0” as their talking point.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:10:44am

I read Judge Parker’s ruling on the Quacken sanctions last night - all 27,000 words of it, skimmed in parts. For a lawyer, it would be a BRUTAL read. (Obviously, I found it highly entertaining.) When a federal judge writes in an official court document:

This lawsuit should never have been filed.

You know you are in for a bad time.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:11:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:12:49am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

The other day I noted that an ISIS-K suicide bomber could really throw a monkeywrench into everything, especially if said suicide bombing produced major casualties.

I hope that I’m wrong.

The State Department warned a couple of days ago about that exact scenario, noting multiple lines of intelligence had captured plans. The US Embassy warned Americans to stay away from the airport gates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:13:04am
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jeffreyw  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:14:35am

re: #210 Mattand

Your random NJ fact: the eastern goldfinch is the NJ state bird.

I almost never see them in my yard, but if I walk half a mile to the historic farmhouse, which has been turned into a community garden and backs up to woods, they’re all over the place.

They love sunflower seeds.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:14:47am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The State Department warned a couple of days ago about that exact scenario, noting multiple lines of intelligence had captured plans. The US Embassy warned Americans to stay away from the airport gates.

I saw something mentioned about that yesterday, didn’t read it though.

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Ming5000  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:16:48am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

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Taliban in disarray!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:17:43am

re: #244 Ming5000

Taliban in disarray!

Well, they’re really Democrats anyways. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:17:49am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:19:07am

re: #197 Dangerman

We’re #1!

What matters is not the number as much as the capacity and the size of the state. Aren’t Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana far harder hit than Florida?

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:20:25am

Afghanistan is facing a lot of challenges. Millions fled during the Soviet intervention. More refugees when the Taliban came in. Not all existing refugees went home after the US invaded and other Afghanis became refugees. With the current situation, lots of Afghanis are fleeing the country. Here is the border with Pakistan at Spin Boldak yesterday -

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:22:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:24:22am

Someone wants to throw us under the combine.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:25:10am
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:27:05am

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Someone wants to throw us under the combine.

This is the basic problem with any of these “Fine, let X just move to Y” shit takes that are popular on Twitter and other shitposting sites. There are good people who live in most places. I wouldn’t wish the vast unvaccinated even on Florida.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:27:47am

Leah McElrath seems to be closely following the Kabul bombing and collating on-the-ground sources if you are interested.

twitter.com

Early reports are of at least 11 coalition military casualties including three US. No word on how many civilian casualties.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:28:23am

She’s getting dragged for that.

I really hate whatever issue comes up, lots of people chime in with “fuque the people in red states.”

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:31:34am

Update on the folks - packing it into a private bubble as I’m sometimes too descriptive. TL/DR : he made the journey okay.

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Ming5000  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:33:38am

I was curious about the number of US citizens left in Aphganistan, and why they were still in Aphganistan.

from NYT:

Mr. Blinken could not offer a more precise number, and noted the difficulty that even tracking down how many Americans might be in Afghanistan had been a challenge for the U.S. government.

He said the State Department had identified at least 6,000 Americans — many of them with dual Afghan citizenship — by searching various databases. Officials have sent more than 20,000 emails and placed 45,000 phone calls across Afghanistan to offer U.S. citizens a chance to leave, he said.

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:34:51am

re: #255 darthstar

Update on the folks - packing it into a private bubble as I’m sometimes too descriptive. TL/DR : he made the journey okay.

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One thing that bothered me. The driver and nurse were unmasked. She, young, had flown out from Maryland and had to spend two days at LAX because fire smoke caused her flights to Reno to keep getting canceled. Driver’s a van driver. Assume they’re both vaxed, folks definitely are. Still, 8 hours in a goddamn medical transport - if one of them had Delta that’s fucked. I kept my mask on around them regardless except when we were outside, and never got more than a few feet near them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:35:16am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More from the piece:
……..
Sure, there is anecdotal evidence that some members of the New Atheist movement have begun to embrace conservative positions on issues of race. But there’s little reason to believe that secular voters are going to become a core part of the Republican electorate any time soon.

There is no evidence that atheists are less racist or nationalistic or white supremacist or economically regressive than others in our population. Think of Ayn Rand — as a perfect model of an atheist who shares almost ever other deplorable trait of a de Santis or an Abbott.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:35:48am

re: #219 lawhawk

re: #253 ckkatz

Leah McElrath seems to be closely following the Kabul bombing and collating on-the-ground sources if you are interested.
twitter.com

And now I realize that Lawhawk made that point before I did in 219 above.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:38:26am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

There is no evidence that atheists are less racist or nationalistic or white supremacist or economically regressive than others in our population. Think of Ayn Rand — as a perfect model of an atheist who shares almost ever other deplorable trait of a de Santis or an Abbott.

Yeah, us atheists shouldn’t be held in some high regard. I sometimes like to say that I don’t need a god to tell me to do the right thing, but there are plenty of atheists that just don’t do the right thing. Like a god has nothing to do with the reasoning.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:41:14am
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Nojay UK  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:42:20am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She’s getting dragged for that.
I really hate whatever issue comes up, lots of people chime in with “fuque the people in red states.”

The majority of people in red states regularly vote for politicians who decide on policies that fuck people over. Red states like Nebraska also support fucking over other states that elect more liberal politicians at the Federal level when they elect Republican Congressional majorities and Presidents like Donald Trump.

Nebraskans decided, after four years of President Trump that they thought re-electing him in 2020 was a great idea, 60% to 40%. Maybe you feel the blue states should feel sympathetic to states like Nebraska, that they should be understanding and forgiving, a bit like how an abused partner in an unhealthy relationship they can’t get out of is expected to behave. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:42:33am
Nebraska State Senator Carol Blood penned a letter on Monday asking Governor Pete Ricketts and Nebraska’s Director of Veterans’ Affairs John Hilgert about job postings for registered nurses in a skilled nursing care facility for veterans. These postings noted that there are no COVID-19 vaccine requirements.

The job advertisements were first brought to Blood’s attention by a constituent who saw a posting online for the Eastern Nebraska Veterans’ Home, which falls in Blood’s district. Postcards were also mailed out with information about how to apply.

Upon seeing the posting, Blood got to work on her letter and sent it out by the end of the day.

“That was concerning because we had all of our medical entities say they were going to ask all of their workers to be vaccinated because of the Delta variant,” Blood told Newsweek.

Several healthcare systems in Nebraska have announced they will require all employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

“My constituents are concerned because the people who enter into [the Eastern Nebraska Veterans’ Home] have health issues,” Blood said.

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re: #260 Belafon

Yeah, us atheists shouldn’t be held in some high regard. I sometimes like to say that I don’t need a god to tell me to do the right thing, but there are plenty of atheists that just don’t do the right thing. Like a god has nothing to do with the reasoning.

Yup. “Atheist” is just a position on a single question. It says nothing beyond that.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:42:39am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

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steve_davis  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:43:09am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That depends on which state. Earlier someone was asking here how to replace a lost CDC card, and was directed to the state Website for that information.

In Nebraska we are told to contact the Public Health District or provider which provided the vaccine, and if they can’t help there is a special number at the University of Nebraska Medical Center to call.

In my case, since I got my vaccine at the VA in January, I presume I would contact the Cheyenne VAMC.

Mine has initials from the person jabbing me, and the lot number for the pfizer doses (different lot numbers obviously). presumably, one could tell if the lot numbers on counterfeit cards are for lots that weren’t at the supposed locations. and yes, I had to sign in and fill out paperwork, so I’m in the SC system somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:43:50am

re: #262 Nojay UK

The majority of people in red states regularly vote for politicians who decide on policies that fuck people over. Red states like Nebraska also support fucking over other states that elect more liberal politicians at the Federal level when they elect Republican Congressional majorities and Presidents like Donald Trump.

Nebraskans decided, after four years of President Trump that they thought re-electing him in 2020 was a great idea, 60% to 40%. Maybe you feel the blue states should feel sympathetic to states like Nebraska, that they should be understanding and forgiving, a bit like how an abused partner in an unhealthy relationship they can’t get out of is expected to behave. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Shorter: Fuque you 40%. Got it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:45:16am

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That was from Newsweek.

Senator Criticizes Veteran Center for Healthcare Job Openings Listing Vaccines as ‘Optional’

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:51:30am

How about we keep Arizona hate groups out of our state?

Family Watch International (SPLC)

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Nojay UK  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:53:50am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Shorter: Fuque you 40%. Got it.

“A More Perfect Union”. E Pluribus Unum. And so on. The State of Nebraska is, however, not the individual people within its borders but a collective state of mind and that is presented to the outside world by its politicians, the leaders of the polis, fairly elected.

Nebraska voted twice for Donald Trump, that is a majority of its registered electors who bothered to vote said “We think DT is the bee’s knees, we want more abuse of those folks over there and fuck their feelings.” That’s how Nebraska presents itself to the rest of America and the world and how it influences legislation in Congress, abuse and cruelty and punching down. I don’t really see that changing any time soon, so, again fuck that for a game of soldiers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 7:59:48am

re: #262 Nojay UK

The majority of people in red states regularly vote for politicians who decide on policies that fuck people over. Red states like Nebraska also support fucking over other states that elect more liberal politicians at the Federal level when they elect Republican Congressional majorities and Presidents like Donald Trump.

Nebraskans decided, after four years of President Trump that they thought re-electing him in 2020 was a great idea, 60% to 40%. Maybe you feel the blue states should feel sympathetic to states like Nebraska, that they should be understanding and forgiving, a bit like how an abused partner in an unhealthy relationship they can’t get out of is expected to behave. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

It’s not always a majority of people in the red states — it’s a majority of those who vote. Florida, for example, has disenfranchised a large portion of its citizens; enough that it changes the outcome of races. Florida had barred ex-felons from voting since the 19th Century as part of their racist heritage to prevent African Americans from voting. When the citizens a couple years ago passed a referendum to restore voting rights, Florida immediately implemented a poll tax that got the blessing of our racist SCOTUS. And then there is Texas, which has implemented restrictions that make it difficult for registered voters to vote — in 2020 it was in the bottom 7 states for voter turnout.

In any case, it’s not right for the innocent to suffer along with the guilty.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:00:05am

re: #198 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:02:16am

Can someone tell these anti-vax assholes that a company or state government mandating a vaccine does NOT violate their freedoms and is NOT akin to someone pinning them down to a table and jabbing a needle in them??

Don’t want to get vaccinated? Then don’t, but realize their may be consequences for that decision, such as limited job opportunities, higher health care costs and oh yeah, dying of a respiratory disease.

These folks aren’t quite as big on “personal responsibility” as they’d have you believe.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:02:21am

“F@ck this for a game of soldiers”

Had not heard that expression before.

As I understand it “A game of soldiers” means something completely unimportant or trivial.

With the implication that whatever ‘this’ is; Is so obnoxious to the speaker, that the speaker would rather do something else even if it is completely unimportant.

Interesting phrase.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:02:53am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

And Georgia. Can’t forget what Georgia did.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:03:40am

re: #269 Nojay UK

“A More Perfect Union”. E Pluribus Unum. And so on. The State of Nebraska is, however, not the individual people within its borders but a collective state of mind and that is presented to the outside world by its politicians, the leaders of the polis, fairly elected.

Nebraska voted twice for Donald Trump, that is a majority of its registered electors who bothered to vote said “We think DT is the bee’s knees, we want more abuse of those folks over there and fuck their feelings.” That’s how Nebraska presents itself to the rest of America and the world and how it influences legislation in Congress, abuse and cruelty and punching down. I don’t really see that changing any time soon, so, again fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Shorter: Fuque you, 40%.

Ted Cruz voted against hurricane relief for Sandy, so all Texans represent their senator and governor’s position. Greg Abbot is doing everything he can to ban mask mandates and other pandemic controls, so all Texans represent that position.

Alabama takes more federal money than they pay in taxes, so all Alabamians are welfare queens.

That seems very reductive to me.

This was about unvaccinated nurses, not Afghanistan.

I’m going to mosey off to bed; it’s way past my bedtime.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:06:15am

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

Some tell these anti-vax assholes that a company or state government mandating a vaccine does NOT violate their freedoms and is NOT akin to someone pinning them down to a table and jabbing a needle in them.

Don’t want to get vaccinated? Then don’t, but realize their may be consequences for that decision, such as limited job opportunities, higher health care costs and oh yeah, dying of a respiratory disease.

These folks aren’t quite as big on “personal responsibility” as they’d have you believe.

When employers and insurance companies start coming down on them, we’ll see which ones are really committed to this and which ones are just oppositionally defiant for performance art or street cred.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:06:23am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

And Georgia. Can’t forget what Georgia did.

Kemp winning the governorship because he purged voter lists. I was looking at the past rather than the future — and the future may be very red in Georgia because of the new voting restrictions.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:07:54am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:07:59am

I’m guessing it won’t be long until we hear “Why didn’t Biden get us out in May according to Trump’s deal?”.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:11:08am

re: #278 JOE 🥓

Too slow :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:11:22am

re: #278 JOE 🥓

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:14:56am

He’s not wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:15:22am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:15:45am

So — what are the odds that the Taliban are now becoming our allies and wanting us to stick around to help them battle ISIS-K?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:18:00am

2018:

today:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:19:24am

IL - All govt/school/hospital workers must be vaccinated or get tested weekly. Indoor mask mandate.

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Nojay UK  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:19:39am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

So — what are the odds that the Taliban are now becoming our allies and wanting us to stick around to help them battle ISIS-K?

So — what are the odds that the ISIS-K will present themselves as allies of the USA and ask for money and weapons to help them battle the Taliban?

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:20:23am
Brian Benjamin, a Democratic state Senator from Harlem, is slated to become New York’s next lieutenant governor, according to several people briefed on the matter — giving Gov. Kathy Hochul’s 2022 election hopes a potential boost.

thecity.nyc

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:20:29am

re: #282 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s not wrong.

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Not all billionaire governors are wrong — and even a billionaire Republican governor (Jim Justice) is trying to do the right thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:20:32am

JFC

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:21:28am

re: #279 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m guessing it won’t be long until we hear “Why didn’t Biden get us out in May according to Trump’s deal?”.

Just a theory…

He needed time to reconstitute the State Dept division that could start work on the 17,000 backlog of qualified SIV applicants.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:21:28am

re: #287 Nojay UK

So — what are the odds that the ISIS-K will present themselves as allies of the USA and ask for money and weapons to help them battle the Taliban?

Zero.

1. ISIS
2. Today’s attack.
3. The Taliban weren’t attacking.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:21:29am

re: #252 Dopamine Fish

This is the basic problem with any of these “Fine, let X just move to Y” shit takes that are popular on Twitter and other shitposting sites. There are good people who live in most places. I wouldn’t wish the vast unvaccinated even on Florida.

On the other hand, someone reading a “come to xxx if you’re unvaccinated” ad might be forgiven for thinking that the place that ran the ad (in this case, Nebraska) welcomes the unvaccinated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:22:40am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Apparently, peoples lives are worth $1000 in SD.

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:22:54am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

So — what are the odds that the Taliban are now becoming our allies and wanting us to stick around to help them battle ISIS-K?

.03%

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piratedan  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:23:11am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

it isn’t so much that he ran over a pedestrian (while driving under the influence, allegedly) it’s the fact that he coordinated and conspired to cover it up and every part of the legal/justice infrastructure in the state allowed him to do so.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:23:51am
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Mattand  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:24:32am

re: #242 jeffreyw

They love sunflower seeds.

Thanks for confirming my long standing suspicion. Sunflowers are really popular with the gardeners there.

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:26:02am
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Nojay UK  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:26:42am

re: #292 Belafon

Zero.

1. ISIS
2. Today’s attack.
3. The Taliban weren’t attacking.

Now factor in Donald Trump being re-elected in 2024 and give me your updated estimate of the odds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:27:31am

re: #279 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m guessing it won’t be long until we hear “Why didn’t Biden get us out in May according to Trump’s deal?”.

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:32:24am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet the family of the person who was killed are thrilled to know they were only worth about $500 to the state.

I can only imagine the fury.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:32:25am
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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:33:25am

This morning the conservative Texas Supreme Court (which is protected by its own mask mandate) is preventing schools in San Antonio from protecting their students and staff with a similar mask mandate.

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:35:20am

re: #304 jaunte

How is it in any way conservative to make a ruling that will contribute to maiming and killing people?

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:35:58am

re: #305 plansbandc

Yes, it’s a strange self-designator for them to adopt.

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:37:05am

Greedy, self-dealing, down-punching.

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:38:09am

When health is wealth, those people will attempt to corner it.

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steve_davis  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:38:51am

I feel like a coffee bar that has a sleeping patron on the counter.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:39:25am

re: #304 jaunte

This morning the conservative Texas Supreme Court (which is protected by its own mask mandate) is preventing schools in San Antonio from protecting their students and staff with a similar mask mandate.

The school district should say that: We’re maintaining the same protocols the Texas Supreme Court applies to itself.

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:40:35am

re: #309 steve_davis

I feel like a coffee bar that has a sleeping patron on the counter.

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why are her claws out? Does she think you’re going to try to move her?

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:41:56am

Well played, casino hotel…

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:43:49am
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piratedan  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:46:47am

re: #304 jaunte

this is the kind of decision which starts as a premise to one of those Hollywood retribution thrillers… Soon to be traumatized parent sees his little one off to school, ten days later he’s watching through a small window on a door while she’s placed on a ventilator, fighting for breath. Quietly furious father, executes insane plan and kidnaps entire court, drives them to local hospital, and sits them unmasked in hospital ER for entire day….just like a day at school….

After a few tense hours with follow up from local law enforcement and local media going apeshit regarding what their options are….he’s subdued by plucky hospital security and newly minted nursing student, led away in cuffs…

daughter improves, is pulled from ventilator…

two days later, half the members of the court begin to cough….

roll credits

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:46:51am

re: #313 lawhawk

But does the cotton industry pay the NYT as much as the petroleum industry?

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:48:10am

re: #314 piratedan

Idris Elba-Liam Neeson buddy-revenge movie.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:48:42am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That was from Newsweek.

Senator Criticizes Veteran Center for Healthcare Job Openings Listing Vaccines as ‘Optional’

“No sex offender check!”

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:48:48am

re: #305 plansbandc

How is it in any way conservative to make a ruling that will contribute to maiming and killing people?

Republicans want colored folk to die.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:50:29am

re: #38 stpaulbear

I just picked up three prescriptions at Walgreens. Been a customer of theirs for ages. I should send them an email. There are lots of other pharmacies close to me.

The store I go to already had their Halloween candy display in place. Both sides of half an aisle. If it would have been on sale, I would have succumbed.

We always purchase our Halloween candy on sale a day or two before Trick or Treat night.

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:51:12am

re: #319 BeenHereAwhile

We always purchase our Halloween candy on sale a day or two before Trick or Treat night.

I get mine 60% off on November 1.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:54:00am

re: #313 lawhawk

Forget it Angus. It’s the Screw York Times.

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steve_davis  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:55:46am

re: #311 sagehen

why are her claws out? Does she think you’re going to try to move her?

Security, I’m guessing. Also, maybe it’s just a difficult position to maintain without latching on. Of course, difficulty has never stopped a cat from trying something, which is why they have 3 Nobel prizes in catatonics, awarded annually at a little known side ceremony in the alley outside joe’s bar and grill.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:55:49am

Oh my………

Trump sued by Capitol police officers over Jan. 6 attack in lawsuit alleges ‘bias-motivated acts of terrorism’: NYT

Donald Trump is being sued by a group of seven Capitol Police officers for his role in the January 6 insurrection in what is being called the “most expansive civil effort to date” to hold the former president and his associates and allies accountable.

The lawsuit accuses Trump “and nearly 20 members of far-right extremist groups and political organizations of a plot to disrupt the peaceful transition of power during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6,” and implicates “members of the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers militia and Trump associates like Roger J. Stone Jr.,” The New York Times reports.

alternet.org

Shocked that the Times isn’t doing their usual softball approach to the Tangsnorter.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:55:55am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:57:21am

Red band trailer for The King’s Man:

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lawhawk  Aug 26, 2021 • 8:58:54am

Trump, other GOP treasonweasels called out explicitly in suit filed by Capitol Police officers:

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:06:13am

re: #42 Eric The Fruit Bat

On an old CompuServe forum, we used to joke that the forum was like “Hotel California” - You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

(that is, unless you earn the scorn of Stinky…)

CompuServe was a good read in the early 1990s.

Then I joined Netcom, and marveled at the spectacular flame wars in their newsgroups.

Netcom, what fun.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:07:03am

re: #326 lawhawk

I just hope they can win. Jan 6 was a travesty still not resolved by far.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:08:48am

Interesting philosophical question wrapped up in the above discussion. Not sure if I am going to phrase it well, though.

What characteristic(s) define a person? Is it a single feature?

What context is important in a human’s life, and what is not?

Can people change? Is there redemption? On earth? In Heaven?

Is there only one preferred feature type, or can there be diversity?

Far smarter minds have focused on this than I. But to my mind, humans are complex, motivated by many different things and not static over time. A few even try to learn from their mistakes and improve their behavior.

Or, as one friend used to say…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:11:17am

re: #314 piratedan

this is the kind of decision which starts as a premise to one of those Hollywood retribution thrillers… Soon to be traumatized parent sees his little one off to school, ten days later he’s watching through a small window on a door while she’s placed on a ventilator, fighting for breath. Quietly furious father, executes insane plan and kidnaps entire court, drives them to local hospital, and sits them unmasked in hospital ER for entire day….just like a day at school….

After a few tense hours with follow up from local law enforcement and local media going apeshit regarding what their options are….he’s subdued by plucky hospital security and newly minted nursing student, led away in cuffs…

daughter improves, is pulled from ventilator…

two days later, half the members of the court begin to cough….

roll credits

The alternative (based on “Law Abiding Citizen”) is that she dies and he executes a plan that involves killing each one. Meanwhile law enforcement is puzzled on what is the common thread underlying these attacks. Hmmm —- am thinking that L&O may have done something similar years ago. But that won’t stop them from a similar storyline!

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:12:18am

a good read:

The Ides of August
Sarah Chayes

It is my belief that Karzai was a key go-between negotiating this surrender, just as he did in 1994, this time enlisting other discredited figures from Afghanistan’s past, as they were useful to him. Former co-head of the Afghan government, Abdullah Abdullah, could speak to his old battle-buddies, the Mujahideen commanders of the north and west, and their comrades within the Afghan armed forces. You may have heard some of their names as they surrendered their cities in recent days: Ismail Khan, Dostum, Atta Muhammad Noor. The other person mentioned together with Karzai is Gulbuddin Hikmatyar — a bona fide Taliban commander, who could take the lead in some conversations with them and with the ISI.

As Americans have witnessed in our own context — the #MeToo movement, for example, the uprising after the murder of George Floyd, or the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol — surprisingly abrupt events are often months or years in the quiet making. The abrupt collapse of 20 years’ effort in Afghanistan is, in my view, one of those cases.

Thinking this hypothesis through, I find myself wondering: what role did U.S. Special Envoy Zalmay Khalilzad play? An old friend of Karzai’s, he was the one who ran the negotiations with the Taliban for the Trump Administration, in which the Afghan government was forced to make concession after concession. Could President Biden truly have found no one else for that job, to replace an Afghan-American with obvious conflicts of interest, who was close to former Vice President Dick Cheney and who lobbied in favor of an oil pipeline through Afghanistan when the Taliban were last in power?

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:17:12am

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

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and possibly bombing Cambodia

Kissinger & Indonesia 1975

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:22:07am

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

“Diplomacy and force”: force like the drone of a gravelly monotone of a war criminal?

Nixon’s White House was so concerned about Kissinger’s German accent during Nixon’s first administration; they did not allow the press to record audio of him speaking in public.

Film on 6 O’Clock news, with newscaster voice over.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:22:48am

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

Don’t forget Kissy’s masterpiece—Chile…

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:25:06am
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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:25:39am

But don’t call them Nazis.

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:28:49am
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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:33:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:33:58am

I’ve got a suggestion for Cristina and the rest of her looney friends.
If you don’t like what the doctors are doing when refusing your looney cures, then bring the sorry assed patients home and treat them there yourself…what have you got to lose???

Bonus: a hospital bed opens up for someone who really needs it.

I am so fed up with these whiners

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:35:34am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:39:36am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

OOPS! SOMEBODY FORGOT THEIR DEPENDS!

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:41:20am

re: #340 Belafon

The Egyptian child born during Cairo Spring whose parents named her Facebook… she will come to resent that.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:41:34am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Behind all of it is a deep outsider’s suspicion that feeds the whole spectrum of conspiracy theories. “The CDC is trying to kill us” is rooted in the same belief system that thinks Cape Kennedy is a sound stage. The XX Century was too much for these people—there’s no way they will sign up for the XXIst.

IOW.

“How come I’m not benefiting from my white privilege?”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:43:36am

re: #341 JOE 🥓

The FLCCC, btw. Smfh.

covid19criticalcare.com

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Jay C  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:44:09am

re: #341 JOE 🥓

OOPS! SOMEBODY FORGOT THEIR DEPENDS!

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No shit???

PS: WTF is “FLCCC”? And WTF are their “guidelines”?

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darthstar  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:44:57am

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sagehen  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:45:37am

reuters.com

Aug 26 (Reuters) - The United States and allies are hurrying to evacuate as many people from Afghanistan as possible before an Aug. 31 deadline amid growing security fears at Kabul airport.

The United States and coalition partners have evacuated about 95,700 people since Aug. 14, the day before the Taliban entered Kabul, the White House said on Thursday.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:46:27am

re: #345 Jay C

No shit???

PS: WTF is “FLCCC”? And WTF are their “guidelines”?

THEY ARE QUACKS.

See the link Gluten Free Jesus posted in #344!

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:47:49am

re: #345 Jay C

“…The drug, which is commonly used in veterinary medicine to de-worm horses, came to the public’s attention after a group of critical care workers who formed the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) at the start of the pandemic began promoting it on its website as a treatment for Covid-19.

The group had previously promoted the controversial use of vitamin C as a treatment of sepsis. “
physiciansweekly.com

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:47:55am

re: #345 Jay C

No shit???

PS: WTF is “FLCCC”? And WTF are their “guidelines”?

They are the “Front-Line COVID Critical Care Alliance”, a group of right-wing anti-vax nutter doctors and nurses who have been putting themselves out there promoting hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and basically everything EXCEPT actual working solutions to the COVID pandemic, because they hate themselves.

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Jay C  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:49:35am

re: #344 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #348 JOE 🥓

Yeah: nice impressive authoritative-looking website.

Too bad the site design can’t cover up the stench of bullshit…..

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:49:52am

re: #344 GlutenFreeJesus

The FLCCC, btw. Smfh.

covid19criticalcare.com

FLCCC/C19CC is where you find this nugget in the small print disclaimer:

[…] “and in no way should anyone infer that we, even though we are physicians, or anyone appearing in any content on this website are practicing medicine, it is for educational purposes only” […]

They know what they are pushing on people is potentially harmful, and want wriggle out of legal and/or criminal liability.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:50:37am

re: #341 JOE 🥓

OOPS! SOMEBODY FORGOT THEIR DEPENDS!

[Embedded content]

Someone tell Natalie that it’s just the Ivermectin working it’s deworming magic!

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:51:01am

re: #345 Jay C

No shit???

PS: WTF is “FLCCC”? And WTF are their “guidelines”?

Professional-looking “treatment protocols” with red-flag disclaimers (see other comment), no mention of vaccines, language such as “acceptable hypoxia”, as well as Ivermectin doses 2 to 3 times the FDA maximum approved dosage.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:53:05am

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Not a chance in hell I’d eat with MAGAts. None. Zero. Our value systems are so different I’d hate every second of being in their presence.

Full. Hard. Pass.

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ckkatz  Aug 26, 2021 • 9:53:30am

I’m completely stunned at the self-harm of these kind of treatments.


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