But Dan gave his personal assurance...

What?! No animated GIF???

I.Want.My.Animated.GIF!

To bad we can't fake dan blathers paycheck. Or does it just go striaght to the moveon morons.

Gotta be rough to be a Democrat these days.

This story is just getting bigger and bigger. Dan Rather should move to France.

I love how you can see the lense distortion so clearly now. This is like living inside a history exhibit. Thanks Charles, you host a great place here.

Sucks to be CBS right now...

Beautiful, Charles.

Keep fighting the good fight - it's finally getting through.

Shabbat Shalom, everyone.

BTW that's the, ahem, cultured spelling of lens. Ya know, like The Shoppes of Townebridge.

the PIMFs go marching on and on hurrah…

The MSM is abandoning CBS. Aaron Brown just led off his show on CNN with a segment that questioned the authenticity of the memos. They used the arguments we've been reading on LGF since yesterday.

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My, my.
Port Authority to join lawsuit against Saudi Arabia over 9-11 attack

This is fuc*in' bullsh*t.

You can't use proof to deflate our arguments.

You must use feeling and emotion.

Check this out.

The headline reads:

AP Poll: Bush Holds Slight Lead on Kerry

Slight lead. Okay

Since the Democratic National Convention ended in late July, the president has erased any gains Kerry had achieved while reshaping the political landscape in his favor: Nearly two-thirds of voters think protecting the country is more important than creating jobs, and Bush is favored over Kerry by a whopping 23 percentage points on who would keep the United States safe.

--

Voters were slightly more likely to say a candidate's positions on issues is more important than leadership and personal qualities. Of those who cited issues, Kerry was favored by 10 percentage points. People making a gut-level choice overwhelming favored Bush, 65-29 percent.

--

On the question of who can be trusted to protect the country, Bush gained 7 percentage points and Kerry lost the same amount — a 14-point swing. The shift was just as big on decisiveness, with 75 percent assigning that trait to Bush and just 37 percent saying they would use that word to describe Kerry.

Etc.

Sugar coated!

nice work, Charles.

Did I hear it wrong? Did CBS give an offhand statement that they "orgionals" were also photocopies? Well they're trying to spin like hell (and with that much money I admit they can spin alot) but the proponderance of information says they're lying. Now if they would produce the orional documents that came off the typewriter that would be proof. Otherwise they're just spinning and dancing.

15 Bah I should go to bed, can't even spell tonight...

Dan Rather needs to step down. If he wont go, he must be forced out by "we the people".

"we the people" don't like to be manipulated and lied to.

This blogger found a guy who re-created part of one of the memos using an IBM Composer :-)

it doesn't match

Jeff Harrell, who I found linked from INDC Journal.

CBS...51 W. 52nd St.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: 212-975-4321
Fax: 212-975-4516

Monday morning 9AM I will be calling the president of CBS DEMANDING Ratner resign immediately...

#17 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs

he must be forced out by "we the people".

You're kidding right? Did you forget we live in a totalitarian theocracy?

CBS is spinning like an Iranian uranium-enrichment centrifuge.

(That's fast.)

What goes around comes around. The MSM has been pulling the wool over the public's eyes for years now. Time to expose the wolf in sheep's clothing!

the following is cut and pasted from Allah's magnificent blog:

"Charles says the memos aren't kerned. Powerline seems to think they are. What's the answer? I received an e-mail from a reader named "tyem" about an hour ago that might resolve the discrepancy. Here's what he said:
"With a typewriter, each letter has its own block area. These are not custom-sized to tightly fit each letter, and when you type a letter the typewriter does not know to scoot precise variable distances, i.e. moving only slightly for an 'I' and further for an 'O'. Word can easily do this, because word can custom-fit a pixel size for each letter instead of using larger, crude block sizes. Because of this, Word can save space by ensuring that a minimal amount of empty space exists on each side of the letter, even WITHOUT taking the extra step of kerning.
So Word has a natural kerning-like effect even when you do not have kerning turned off. It is technically incorrect to call this 'kerning' even though the same basic idea is at work.

All this amounts to a "form over substance" attack that parades semantics around while ignoring the visually-supported proof that these letters are not spaced in a way that a typical 30 year old typewriter would be capable of.

Considering the exact match of the document with documents printed using modern MS Word, though, the whole debate is mental masturbation. The forgery was typed on Word. Anyone arguing to the contrary is not acting in good faith."

ouch.

[Link: www.allahpundit.com...]

#21 JohnAnnArbor

CBS is spinning like an Iranian uranium-enrichment centrifuge.

Good one John, and topical.

Charles,

Most impressive work. I'm continually amazed by the work product this site produces.

But enough of the back slapping. Down to business. Namely making sure that MSM knows that this issue cannot go away and that CBS must be held accountable for trying to throw the election with fraudulent documents purposefully foisted on an unwitting public for the express purpose of discrediting the sitting President during wartime.

News Flashes:

** Bush Documents Are Real **

** Sun Rises in West **

** You Can Whistle With Crackers in Your Mouth **

Details to follow.

#18--

GREAT link. The exact match of the two centered addresses--three months apart, with no other known examples--is especially convincing.

Just got the first strawberry margarita delivered by my lovely wife.

Uh-oh, brain freeze. Gawd, I hate those.

(clapping hands like a giggling little girl)

13 Zulu... CNN put out the same bullshit yesterday saying their poll shows GWB leading F'ing by " only " 4% points and the race is " competitive.. "

Congratulations Charles on getting an even more precise match to the CBS document. Now you have the modus operandi of the forgery down even more precisely.

#27--

Yeah, I liked that too. This poor coffin has more nails than wood.

#24--

Thank you, sir. I could just as well have said "North Korean uranium enrichment centrifuges."

#20 Art...
oh yeah - *duh*. Excuse me while I get out my typewriter and prepare a long apology to the elites that guard over my life with superior leftwing information, and filtered knowledge.
If I do not, I will beaten.

I JUST CBS HEADQUARTERS HERE IN NYC 212-975-4321, {10:34 EST} THREE TIMES AND I GET A BUSY SIGNAL !!!

ted, they're desperate. Aaaargh, I hate the media. By the way, I don't remember which thread it was on but I saw you responded to my post about the NYT reporters.

Found this --

WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal prosecutor is investigating whether two reporters for The New York Times were leaked information about a terror financing investigation that may have tipped off the targets of the probe.

No matter how both blather and cbs obfuscate, they will be caught. Reading his denials, 'proof', etc., on Drudge proves nothing...and the one who vouches for the documents is the same one who 'verified' the Vince Foster 'suicide' note, Marcel Matley...MORE ON VINCE FOSTER

...Then the program turned to Marcel Matley, identified as a "handwriting examiner" with no further credentials given, who offered his opinion that the "suicide" note is genuine. Matley believes that the "deteriorated copy" of the note... that is, it's been copied over too many times... and the "stress" Foster was presumably under account for the differences in handwriting. He then went on to show how Foster used different styles of letters in the genuine samples, such as both cursive and block letter "s", for example, and how the same multiple styles appear in the note; and from this he concluded that the same person wrote both the note and the samples known to be genuine.

One problem with Matley's statements is that it is impossible to determine to what extent the copy of the "suicide" note used by the experts has deteriorated from the original... because the government has yet to release any official copy of the original, much less a high-resolution one. I just don't see how Matley can point out examples of "deterioration" in copies of the note without having seen the original note...

And this, from CNN, of all places:Dan Rather's stand

This is not the first time Dan Rather has found himself in a serious dispute with a U.S. president.

There was this exchange in 1974 during the height of the Watergate scandal with then-President Richard Nixon:

Nixon: Are you running for something?

Rather: No sir, are you?

And there was this exchange with then-Vice President George Bush in 1988 over the Iran-Contra scandal.

Rather: I don't want to be argumentative, Mr. vice president.

Bush: You do, Dan.

Rather: No -- no, sir, I don't.

Bush: This is not a great night, because I want to talk about why I want to be president, why those 41 percent of the people are supporting me. And I don't think it's fair to judge my whole career by a rehash of Iran. How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York?

Now, the 72-year-old CBS News anchor finds himself in yet another confrontation with a Republican president.

"I want to emphasize: I stand by my president. We are in a time of war, and I stand behind my president. There is not joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid, and when we come with facts, and legitimate questions supported by witnesses and documents that we believe to be authentic, to raise those questions no matter how unpleasant they are," Rather said Friday...

see rest of article..it seems that only Republican Presidents are his targets..coincidence???

Ok, I linked this site on another thread pointing out their $10,500 reward...but do also look at the close up they have from IBM Selectric Composer's own manual side by side with the CBS hoax document.

Times up! The issue of superscript is ohhvah. (gratuitous Iron Chef reference)

Can you imagine if Fox News had forged police reports that Kerry sniffed cocaine off a hooker's chest? There would be congressional hearings.

Come on, the MSM will focus on the REAL news for the weekend--the hurricane, the 9/11 observance, and the atrocities at Abu Ghraib.

All this will be forgotten by Monday. . .(they hope)

Ms. Andi, LOL!!

EE #31: Charles has figured out exactly how it was dne. But "modus operandi" makes it sound like the forgery was somehow carefully planned out.

Not a chance. Some 20-something donkey just sat down with MSWord and "keyboarded" out what he/she wanted, automatically thinking (more precisely, not thinking) that since MSWord and PCs had existed ever since they could remember, then they must have existed forever (certainly from 1960 on in any case).

36 Yes...I hate the MSM media with a passion too...Isaw that NYT story...its gonna be big too...My prediction...Rather will resign next week...

I really like that lens effect! That is so cool! Wow! I haven't gotten a smile out of politics for quite a while. Thanks!!!

Any Texans know about this schmuck? TV Writer Backing Texans for Truth...perhaps soros(may his name be obliterated) is helping out?

Think CBS is hoping this "event" will go the way of
"stuff your pants with documents - gate?"

What was that Kerry-advisors' name again? hmmm.

First, I'd like to congratulate Charles on releasing the Mother-of-all-Sh*tstorms on the MSM for attempting to influence a national election through illegal means.

Next, I'd like to point out that CBS at this point has two choices:

- Admit it was wrong and identify the source of the memos. If the memos came from CBS itself, then admit it purposely attempted to influence a national election and accept whatever punishment is due. If the memos came from an outside source connected to Kerry's campaign, then admit that and let the American people see that the Democrats know no shame when it comes to trying to take power in the US.

- Continue to cry "I zee nozing! Nozing!" and watch as the rest of the MSM smell blood in the water and close in for the kill. This way, they can not only gloat over CBS getting caught with its pants down, but also avoid any blame by saying that they were only going off what CBS told them.

Either way, CBS is truly and utterly screwed. The only way it can minimize any further damage is to admit its mistake and reveal the source of these memos. Because if this is a trick by the DNC, then all CBS is doing by denying the truth is taking the fall for Kerry.

#37 NYNana

"How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York?"

ROFLMFO!!! Lordy that takes me back. Thanks for the gut laugh.

laughing my F off? If I was drunk I'd have an excuse.

*schlumps off*

ted, I hope he takes Lesley Stahl with him.

*schlumps off*

LOL! Cute :-)

#18 K:

Excellent link. That is conclusive proof (as if everything here already wasn't enough!), especially the part about the memo's centered text (which would have been centered manually) exactly matching MS Word centering ... in TWO seperate memos.

Great job Charles.

#45

Heard the donor is a writer who worked on Seinfeld.

#47 Target

I think at this point, Rather wants to take the fall for Kerry. CBS is too scared of its stockholders to admit Dan ran with known hoaxed documents. They've taken the old time MSM line that they are the "credible news media, take our word for it" and are also sliming "partisan political hacks on the internet".

#54 Darleen

So, as CBS has no other choice, they're forcing Rather to fall on his own sword just to save the Kerry campaign? That's low, even for the MSM. Something stinks about this and it's not just the LLL masses rushing to defend CBS.

I already did this at 8:59 am PST this morning using Charles .doc file and the default settings on my work machine and a higher end HP laser jet:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The screen font has the low superscript just like Charles, and the hardcopy is just like the 60 Minutes version (and Charles' latest).

Since the laserjet hardcopy is crisp, compared to CBS's mutli-gen photocopied, acrobat converted, low res BS, I would have to say that the CBS version is a crude copy of what Charles' (and millions of others with similer hardware and software) and I did print today.

CBS claiming that the docs, readily reproduced using modern tech, are really thirty years old is like some asshat typing a copy of the bible with any old Royal 1970's typewriter, claiming it is a real guttenburg, and then asserting its authenticity because "Guttenburg could have made one looking like that".

CNN is polling NOW to see if CBS should release memos.

go to:

cnn.com/lou

Here is the letter I sent to CBS today. I'll follow up with the local station on Monday, adding something about Rather's insulting performance tonight.

***

All available evidence now conclusively demonstrates that CBS has propagated lies to the American people based on forged documents. As I am writing this, I notice that your website maintains that the forged documents are somehow "true" — while your employee Dan Rather gave an interview to CNN this morning where he brazenly denies the forgeries.

I am now expecting CBS to promptly air a full 60 minutes prime-time segment to apologize to the American people, retract your smears of President Bush, list the people who are being fired for gross misconduct (and possibly criminal conspiracy), as well as a clear description of who provided the forged documents to CBS. Nothing less will do.

Unless such events take place, it will be my obligation to always and constantly remind everybody around me that: CBS has presented forged documents in an attempt to manipulate a presidential election, refuses to apologize for it, and protects the perpetrators.

The choice is yours.

Sincerely,
(signed)

#13 zulubaby - if those are "slight leads" I wonder what a "huge lead" would be to the AP.

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anyone listening to this apologist on fox? just ignore that guy in london having the 911 party!!! tony snow let her go dammit where is orielly when he is needed

Dan Blather said:

These questions grew out of new witnesses and new evidence, including documents written by Lieutenant Bush's squadron commander. Today, on the Internet and elsewhere, some people — including many who are partisan political operatives — concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story but on the documents that were part of the support of the story.

Gee Dan, if the documents are in question and "part of the support of the story", doesn't that make the story questionable??? Uh, that would be the property of transitivity of simple logic. Asshat.

I guess Charles is an official political operative. That's leftist speak for someone that won't be fooled by the MSM.

Rather is a credulous whore.

I really cannot add any more to this post.

#48 Artisticulated

And as I posted somewhere yesterday, this is the same dan blather of What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Strange...Walter Cronkite has turned out to be a LLL, but I cannot recall a hint of it when he was the anchorman, and was made to retire at age 65. What I can never forget is November 22, 1963; he was magnificent. Ironic that this memory pops up now, as we were living in my native Boston at the time, and the bulletin came over the radio. I immediately turned on the local CBS affilliate, and in those days ,CBS was the platinum standard, and Walter Cronkite was the best. Now? CBS can shove it. They are worse than CNN.

Now we know that blather, (CNS), Brokaw(NBC) and Arnett (ABC) are all flaming liberals...but blather is positively a nut job.

Here, it is almost midnight, and the demarcation of what is now 'before' and 'afterr', as November 22, 1963 was...I am really in a very morose mood right now...

FIRE BLATHER!!!

Oooh, I just did a similar experiment, just because I was curious...

I printed mine from Word using a FAX driver to make a 200 DPI version, then I imported it into paint shop and then I resized it to match the original to a fraction of a pixel...

It's a much closer match than Charles' version.

The original is slightly stretched and a few lines have a little rotation because of being scanned by a FAX machine. I matched the stretching but not the rotation.

The whole thing matched to a fraction of a pixel almost everywhere... The the "B" in the first "Bush" is the worst spot, being off by a whole pixel.

I emailed this to charles asking for no hat tip - my friends will never forgive me for helping Republicans, but what the hell...

Case closed!

#46

Aha...it all makes sense now...

The memos came out of Sandy Berger's Underwear!

For what it's worth my wife, who has been working with typewriters and word processing for longer than most people in this country have been alive looked at CBS website and said as soon as she saw the PDF's that they had been done on a word processer (computer) in word.

Will this bring the MSM down? I hope so, but I'm not confident.

We've had everything from CNN admitting they "sugar coated" events reported in Iraq to keep access to Saddam to Associated Press inserting blatant lies about the crowd booing when Bush announced Clinton had been hospitalized. And who are the only people who know about all this? The bloggers and their fanbase, not the MSP or Mainstream Public. I'm always getting open-mouthed stares when I reveal stuff like this to friends or colleagues, who just read the dailies and watch the TV news. They step back slowly from the crazy man spouting the conspiracy theories, when it's ALL TRUE! :-(

Will this bring the MSM down? I hope so, but I'm not confident.

We've had everything from CNN admitting they "sugar coated" events reported in Iraq to keep access to Saddam to Associated Press inserting blatant lies about the crowd booing when Bush announced Clinton had been hospitalized. And who are the only people who know about all this? The bloggers and their fanbase, not the MSP or Mainstream Public. I'm always getting open-mouthed stares when I reveal stuff like this to friends or colleagues, who just read the dailies and watch the TV news. They step back slowly from the crazy man spouting the conspiracy theories, when it's ALL TRUE! :-(

Will this bring the MSM down? I hope so, but I'm not confident.

We've had everything from CNN admitting they "sugar coated" events reported in Iraq to keep access to Saddam to Associated Press inserting blatant lies about the crowd booing when Bush announced Clinton had been hospitalized. And who are the only people who know about all this? The bloggers and their fanbase, not the MSP or Mainstream Public. I'm always getting open-mouthed stares when I reveal stuff like this to friends or colleagues, who just read the dailies and watch the TV news. They step back slowly from the crazy man spouting the conspiracy theories, when it's ALL TRUE! :-(

Will this bring the MSM down? I hope so, but I'm not confident.

We've had everything from CNN admitting they "sugar coated" events reported in Iraq to keep access to Saddam to Associated Press inserting blatant lies about the crowd booing when Bush announced Clinton had been hospitalized. And who are the only people who know about all this? The bloggers and their fanbase, not the MSP or Mainstream Public. I'm always getting open-mouthed stares when I reveal stuff like this to friends or colleagues, who just read the dailies and watch the TV news. They step back slowly from the crazy man spouting the conspiracy theories, when it's ALL TRUE! :-(

How soon/what chance for a New & Improved Animated GIF? Flashing "Original/MSWord"...

Let's make one & email the link to every man, woman, and 18 year old in America...

The HTML tag to do a superscript is "SUP". Can't remember if it was here-- someone asked. Somewhere.

I'll try this here, though I won't be surprised if it doesn't come through the commenting filter...

Ra^therGate...

...Yup! Well, it makes it into the "preview" edition.

72 zeppenwolf

I already made one from my own printout (see post #64). If you have an email address I can send you a copy.

By the way zep, I think Charles version my look a little better than mine, even though mine registers better...

The horizontal lines on his characters are thick like the original - I think that's the result of "hinting" for 72 DPI.

Mine came out thiner, printing at 200 DPI.

#19

Yeah and I'm sure they'll listen to you Ted...

Oh, I see.

The thick horizontal lines are what happen when you use a low quality 200 x 100 DPI FAX instead of a higher quality 200 x 200 FAX.

I tried doubling up the horizontal lines at 100 DPI before scaling, then the results look just like the "original".

I'd say that anyone could email me for an animated GIF, but I'm meet my Family tomorrow (I think).

I meant to type I tried doubling up the horizontal lines at 200 DPI before scaling, then the results look just like the "original".

Anyway, there is no actual problem here. The man obviously used a beta copy of Microsoft Word 72!

#72 zeppenwolf

I'll send charles a copy of the printer overlay animation I made, it will save him five minutes.

I sent one to Drudge with a link back to LGF. I hope Charles doesn't mind.

I am with whomever is willing to fight the good fight and encourage CBS to dump Rather. I am going to have to watch so I can find out who the sponsers are of the programs he is on and wage my war in that manner. If you hit them in the pocketbook then you can usually get a response. I am tired of getting these so- called "journalists" opinons instead of news!