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Cronkite: Karl Rove Behind Bin Laden Tape

Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 4:36:30 pm PDT

Walter Cronkite said on Larry King last night that Bush political manager Karl Rove “set up bin Laden” to release the new videotape.

Former CBSNEWS anchorman Walter Cronkite believes Bush adviser Karl Rove is possibly behind the new Bin Laden tape.

Cronkite made the startling comments late Friday during an interview on CNN.

Somewhat smiling, Cronkite said he is “inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing.”

Interviewer Larry King did not ask Cronkite to elaborate on the provocative election eve observation.

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1 Tats66  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:37:31pm

Cronkite.....Just Dan Rather without the Bloggers to unmask him

2 LSD  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:38:03pm

Old fart alert....

3 mpax  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:39:21pm

The bias runs deep in the CBS culture.

4 D.Gray  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:39:47pm

I assumed he was kidding - saying that the timing and content of the video couldn't have been more perfect. Kind of like when we joke around saying "The nefarious Karl Rove must be behind this!"

Of course, Uncle Walter is getting on in years, and maybe he really does believe it. Who knows?

5 nc28105rp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:40:00pm

#2 you mean double alert - don't forget Larry K

6 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:40:01pm

Cronkite is the dean of CBS's tradition of corruption and incompetence.

7 spectator  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:40:01pm

Dan Rather in 20 years (or five)...

8 ELC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:41:45pm

Don't get me wrong: I'm glad that Cronkite no longer has the influence he once had, and I think he's been unmasked as a socialist. However, I think this is nothing more than Cronkite getting as close as he could ever get to bringing himself to say that Osama's video is very bad news for Kerry's campaign.

9 Vortec  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:42:11pm

What's the frequency, Wally?


In all seriousness, if Rove really could pull OBL's strings, you think he'd stop at just a video?

Man, I'm so glad I didn't grow up in the 60s, treating him as if his word were golden.

10 Jheka  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:42:53pm

This is what I posted on my blog a few minutes ago re: this story:

I can just see it. Karl sees Bush struggling in the first debate because his com-link to the White House is not working in spite of the massive antenna they put in the lining of his suit. Karl gets out the special "Osama phone" and makes the call to the luxurious Hollywood condo where Osama has been living for the last three years. "Big-O," Rove says, "It's time to make that tape we discussed. Condi will pick you up and take you to the Sinclair studios. They have the script there waiting for you. You just need to read it ... and, oh, can you throuw in a Fahrenheit 9-11 reference ... and something about how you love Barbra Streisand and ... oh, wait, she's Jewish ... OK, never mind ... but get that Michael Moore thing in there ... and can you type up a few more National Guard memos before you go? We want to leave them for Alec Baldwin to find."

Yeah, I'm sure that that's exactly how it happened. Walter Cronkite ... once the most trusted man in America, now just another CBS embarrassment.

11 scrapiron  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:43:09pm

Just the ramblings of a dottering old fool.

12 hm  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:43:23pm

Cronkite also kept asking what year the last election was.

No kidding.

Its absolutely shameless allowing that old senile man onto prime time live TV.

13 thanna  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:44:20pm

"somewhat smiling ..." have to see the video to get a real fix on this one. Was it a snide attack on LLL's conspiracy theories ... or was he really serious?

14 Spiny Norman  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:45:31pm

In other news, Walter Cronkite has joined the Tin Foil Hat Brigade.

15 miskie  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:45:42pm

Walter better put that tin-foil hat back on.. it seems DU is messing with his mind.

16 Thom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:46:28pm
Interviewer Larry King did not ask Cronkite to elaborate on the provocative election eve observation.

NO!!! Are you trying to tell me that Larry King didn't follow up on the blindingly obvious?!

{I knew there was a reason I never watch that dumbass show.}

17 Oldtimer  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:46:42pm

"And that'sthe way it is." Walter Cronkite

"And that's the truth." (Lily Tomlin's) Edith Ann

Which is more credible?

18 motorcycle mom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:48:58pm

60 min Sunday can run this story in place of missing weapons. The can have Fat Mike explain the Bush/OBL connection.

19 RightWingNutJob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:49:20pm

Alzheimer's claims yet another victim.

This is why we call it the "looney left."

20 big L  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:49:49pm

You kind of wonder if there is a note in with the paychecks or retirement checks, that it is time to say a goofy charge against Bush. It is like the y get the receipt for direct deposit and if no BDS occurs the nthe next ck is suddenly held or lost in the desk drawer.

21 hm  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:50:21pm

Thom,

unfortunately most of us mere mortals who do not live in the U.S. are forced to watch CNN, because thats all there is, well apart from the BBC, but my cardiologist advised me never to watch that again...

22 Lapsed Leftist  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:50:37pm

Really, it's obvious that they dragged OBL out. They were going to 'capture' him, but Maddie Albright was too clever for them and called it. So they pulled out this video. And they almost got away with it too.

For those evil BushCo bastards who LIHOP/MIHOP*, this was minimal on the dirty tricks scale.

/Sure-to-be-seen DU fevered observation on this topic


* For those fortunate enough not to know DU lingo, ?IHOP stands for Let/Made It Happen On Purpose.

23 Frank IBC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:50:59pm

and something about how you love Barbra Streisand and ... oh, wait, she's Jewish

Did he read the "Bang The Drums of War...because I am Caesar" speech?

24 perfectsense  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:51:12pm

Walter Cronkite: "And that'sthe way it is."

What he really ment: "That's my spin for those stupid enough to believe it."

25 rabidfox  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:51:16pm

"The most trusted man in America" was a self-bestowed title. I put that kind of thing in the same category with "I don't care what side of the issue you take so long as it's well supported" from college professors and "I'm a people person" from a boss. In other words, an "incoming" alert.

26 RedWhiteAndJew  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:51:29pm

He jumped the shark by failing to retire after the moon landing.

27 canadianconservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:51:48pm

I'm Walter Cronkite, and I'm a Moonbat....And that's the way it is.......

28 Thom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:52:02pm

#21 hm

My sincere condolences ...

Is satellite TV an option? There has to be an escape from the madness.

29 rtheyserius  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:52:39pm

I'd have to see the video to make up my mind about whether Cronkite was jesting, incoherent, or what.

But given Cronkite's overall LLL worldview, my guess is that he wasn't cracking a joke. In fact, I have a hard time imagining Cronkite cracking any joke.

This is right up the ol' LLL "everything negative to Kerry is a conspiracy" and "everything negative to Bush is truth" interpretation of events.

The Carl Rove angle... man. He must be doing a lot of things right because the LLL *HATES* him so much.

30 canadianconservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:53:43pm

Larry king should be fired for not pouncing on him for that one...

But then again, the MSM knows that if Kerry doesn't win, they are done for, professionally. They're all in it together, sink or swim.

I'll enjoy watching heads roll at the major media outlets on Nov 3d.

31 elevenbravo1969  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:54:21pm

Yikes! Time for Walter to have his meds adjusted.

32 locutus  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:58:00pm

Alzheimers

33 grayp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 2:58:16pm

I didn't see the show. But even when I read about this quote, I didn't imagine Cronkite being serious - just making a joke. Did anyone actually see it?

34 Melissa  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:01:15pm

Maybe when the cold-blooded murderer of many thousands of Americans speaks it is best not to crack wise about it.

I am one of those unfortunate Americans who grew up watching this loon. I'm sure he was a loon then, but he managed to keep it to himself. His successors have not been so lucky.

35 urthshu  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:01:24pm

OT-

Our "friend" Mikey is posting 1-866-ourvote as the number to summon a swarm of video-camera toting moonbats anywhere there's any voter 'intimidation' going on. To do their own intimidation, of course.

There's some great- and harmless- prank potential in this, I think.

Don't let "them" shut down your Freedom of Expression!
heheheh.

36 motorcycle mom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:02:44pm

its not Alzheimers it is just one very seroius case of BDS

37 BRAINDIRT  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:02:55pm

He's getting Alzheimer's.
If Dan Rather is the "Most Busted Man in America", Walter Cronkite is the "Most Rusted Man in America".

38 Blackhorse  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:03:26pm

Who cares what Cronkite says. OOPs CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN etc. MSM.

Karl Rove is possibly behind the deterioration of the Ozone layer as well.

39 locutus  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:04:50pm

If Lord Rove actually were this powerful.....

would there even be any LLLs still in circulation? I'm guessing he would have rounded all of them up and sent them to the Montana gulags, and Bush would be polling 95-5 against Howard Dean right now.

40 Catttt  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:05:23pm

While looking for a list of rules for LGF (is there a list somewhere?), I discovered other stuff. I now am elucidated on acronyms, and therefore, I can say:

Mr. Croncite STFU and also STFD.

Also, watch out for those robots.

41 mickthemick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:05:44pm

Ofcourse, Cronkite's comments about Karl Rove were meant to be humorous. Everybody knows OBL is really controlled by the Mossad.

//sarcasm

42 Catttt  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:06:38pm

Croncite? Freudian slip? Cronkite!

43 vtsurgeon  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:13:38pm

Look out Walter! Darth Rove is sending a black helicopter for you right now.

44 foreign devil  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:13:43pm

Oh brother! A rush of sh*t to the brain? Feh!

45 Austin Conservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:13:58pm

The most trusted man in news.

/NOT

46 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:15:10pm

I'm watching The McLaughlin Group, only because it's the only new news/commentary I can find right now.

Eleanor Clift just echoed, in her extremely irritating whiny voice, Cronkite's absurd assertion, and said that when she saw the UBL tape, she expected to see at the end, "I'm George W. Bush, and I approve this message."

Not to be outdone, Lawrence O'Donnell opines (deadly serious) that the new Eminem antibush music video will bring out all the young new voters who are not polled and will sweep Bush out of office.
Oh please. If they registered, it was while drunk/high on coke/ectasy in a nightclub, and they don't remember, and even if they did, they will forget or be too drunk to vote, and even if not, they wouldn't know where to go to vote.

47 Geepers  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:15:31pm

Sure Karl Rove and a freaking nut job that thinks murdering thousands of Americans is his duty to god are buds working together.

Isn't that funny?

I bet the victims families think that's a funny joke.

48 ErnieG  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:15:31pm

Tim Blair has all the details on this development.

[beverage/monitor alert]

49 Blackhorse  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:19:27pm

Oh my, I can hardly wait to see what tomorrow brings.

50 freedomsound  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:20:02pm

Well, they are getting a lot bolder with their fruity conspiracy theories, and with a much faster turn around time too, as the election is almost upon us now and they are under the gun.

...he probably set up bin Laden to this thing.

No time for "they had the video tape before but are releasing it now to influence the election" type conspiracy theories. They are jumping straight to accusing Bush of being directly in-league with bin Laden.

51 Blackhorse  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:23:17pm

#46 antiquebob

Good Post, also funny. But some truth as well :-)

52 Gringo  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:23:23pm

#21 "unfortunately most of us mere mortals who do not live in the U.S. are forced to watch CNN, because thats all there is, well apart from the BBC, but my cardiologist advised me never to watch that again... "

Obviously you get the internet and that's all you need.
I can get the news channels, but never watch news on TV...whatever for?

53 pietter3  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:23:23pm

This is our last chance this weekend to expose Kerry for what he was and is!

I encourage each person to send the “Swift VETS and POWS “Stolen Honor” Documentary” link (for FREE viewing) WEB site to as many individuals as possible in the States of Hawaii, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida.

Concentrate on the Gore won Democratic States which now are in play because they have not been concentrating on fraudulent registration as they did in OHIO and Florida.

If you do not know anyone search the WEB in those states for e-mail addresses. Check out Doctors, Dentists, Real Estate Agents etc. BE CREATIVE and MAIL the link out.

Can you imagine what the MSM including CBS – Rather and friends, MSNBC – Mathews and friends will be like to live with.

WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO HAVE Baron (John F) Kerry-Heinz “John the Traitor” and Her Highness Baroness Teresa in power.

IT will be the longest 4 years of all our lives.

RE-ELECT BUSH

STOLEN HONOR - FREE ON WEB

54 Jakester  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:24:48pm

I hate Larry King, the only thing he is the king of is shallow celebrity driven gossip and titillation

55 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:25:06pm

Cronkite = Krankheit (it's German)

This sounds like a guilty conscience shining through. I wonder if Wally is really behind Rathergate or one of the October surprises?

56 kauaiterry  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:30:27pm

The fact that "the most trusted man in America" could make such an asine statement tells me everything I know about the the old MSM. The fact that Larry King said nothing in response tells me everything I need to know about the new MSM.

57 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:31:34pm

#55

Krankheit in German means "sickness". He is appropriately named.

He should sit quietly in his Boca mansion and stare at the ocean, counting the waves.....

58 LarryW2LJ  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:32:16pm

And to think at one point in my life that I actually respected this man!

Somewhere ... if you listen closely .... you can hear Edward R. Murrow spinning in his grave.

59 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:32:25pm

He reminds me of my grandmother who had terrible "senility" before we knew what Alzheimers was. We still joke about her today, God bless her.

60 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:32:47pm

Michael Moore sequal:

Krankheit 911

61 N.A. PALM  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:33:05pm

KOOLAID FOR KRONKITE....Belly up to the bar Wally, lets take break........

62 Rayra[deleted]  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:41:39pm
63 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:43:25pm

#60 antiquebob

Books burn at 451 degrees Fahrenheit.


Moore posits that freedom burns at 911 degrees Fahrenheit (doesn't make a fucking bit of sense to me, but whatever).


At what temperature does sheiße burn? 112 Fahrenheit (November 2)?


Sorry, I'm really reaching here.

64 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:53:07pm

#63 Conagher

How about this:

On Nov. 2 "Sheist" burns at 270 electoral votes.

Oh well, I'm reaching too. But please, God, help Bush to win. I just can't beleive that these people can totally destroy out country.
And I would love to see the look on some faces* when it becomes undeniable that Bush is the victor and they go into a meltdown.
*Cronkite, Rather, Brokaw, O'Donnell, Clift, for starters, and then of course all the usual suspects. It will be wonderful, please!

65 Jonny  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:55:31pm

Tim Blair has the emails that Rove and Osama sent to each other.

66 canadianconservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:02:48pm

#64 Antique Bob: Meltdown doesn't even begin to describe it. It means their egos meltdown...and their careers... Maybe we'll see a few of them leap out oftall buildings, for all the respect they've shown to the 9/11 victims.

It's truly amazing how an establishment can put its whole existence, and credibility on the line for a preening showhorse of npo substance like the But Monkey.

Some of these guys are betting 50 year carrers and reputations on JOHN EFFIN" KERRY!

That is the truly amazing story of this campaign... It will only be told if Bush wins.

67 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:03:47pm

Don't let's be beastly to the senile old man................

manofaiki

68 right Brain  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:05:40pm

BDS even strikes old people.

69 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:06:09pm

Cronkite...another fucking idiot. My Dad always said he was a putz, even back in the late 60's.

70 Frank IBC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:06:58pm

#66 canadianconservative -

Tuesday night will be known as "The Night of the Volvo Suicides".

(Volvos in garages in Blue America with their engines running, with their recently deceased owners still in the drivers' seats.)

Krankheit 911

Actually, the meaning of Walter Cronkite's name in the original German is delightful.

71 Frank IBC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:08:45pm

Sorry, I see Antique Bob anticipated my post.

72 myoclonic jerk  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:11:44pm

One must cut Walter some slack. He is senile, and recently had fetal cells from the abortus of two flagrant hippies implanted in his shrivelled brain.

Everyone laughed at Archie Bunker when he called Wallie a "pinko." Who's laughing now?

73 Lively  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:14:01pm

For Cronkite to suggest Rove may be behind the OBL video, suggests he doesn't think the video is 100% on the up and up.

74 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:16:25pm

#37, BRAINDIRT

If Dan Rather is the "Most Busted Man in America"...

ROFL! I hadn't heard that one before...

75 Ghost  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:16:34pm

Incredible! The left is really the land of conspiracy theories, isn't it?

Now let's be serious. If Karl Rove really had any influence on this tape, then the tape would have been another one of those "overheard conversation" type of tapes. Another tape of bin Laden having a casual conversation with someone at a dinner party and saying, "I sure hope the infidels don't elect Bush because Bush is more likely to suceed in shutting us down. We've planned three other attacks that would have dwarfed 9/11, but the Bush team has stopped each of them. I hope they elect that botox guy with the shameful wife."

76 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:18:09pm

#41 mickthemick

LOL! Good one!

Oh wait, on the Arab street they actually believe that one...........


manofaiki

77 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:18:32pm

#70, Frank IBC

Actually, the meaning of Walter Cronkite's name in the original German is delightful.

Delightful... isn't it painful?

78 kikito  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:18:58pm

I'm beginning to suspect that old broadcast "journalists," especially the prominent ones, have a bit of a self-destructive streak. Remember how Pierre Salinger, who kicked the bucket recently, sullied his own reputation in 1996 by insisting that the Air France jet that went down in Long Island Sound was actually brought down accidentally by an errant navy missile?

Not to be outdone, and at the twilight of his long career, Dan Rather recently showed us how intent he was on leaving us a legacy by which to remember and celebrate his life's opus.

Add to that Tom Brokaw, slated for the glue factory at the end of this year. Poor Brokaw must have suddenly realized that he had mere weeks during which he could undo his life's work. How else could one explain away his recent diarrhea of the mouth--an affliction often involving using the words "bloggers" and "jihadists" in the same sentence?

Now I'm not sure if Peter Jennings has done enough yet in that department, although he did recently lament the fact that his audience and readers had the nerve to expect impartiality and objectivity from journalists. But there's still time so one must not despair.

And that brings us back to Cronkite. What's up with these old geezers anyway? Why can't they go away gracefully and graciously and become elder statesmen of their trade and advise intelligently and sanely when consulted? Is this geriatric unhinging the sad result of a lifetime of stressful in-front-of-the-TV work or is it simply a random occupational hazard whose epidemiology is crying out to be studied?

As I'm writing this I'm greatly tormented by the fact that I can't include Jimmy Carter since he was never a journalist. Perhaps I could beg your indulgence and expand this exclusive club to admit persons other than journalists.

What "CLUB"? You ask. Sorry, I don't have a clever name for it. All I can say is it's a club for people who somehow find a way to wreck their own reputation by making an ass of themselves publicly towards the end of their career or after their career ended--either by taking up some batty cause or letting some batty comments fly out of their mouths.

Perhaps we could agree on a suitable name for this ever growing club and nominate members to give these formerly sane people their rightful place in society.

Sorry for this long post but the whole Cronkite thing just got me thinking about all this.

79 ubangi  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:25:13pm

Senility has taken over. Before you know it, Cronkite will prove that Bush has been taken over by little green....footballs? No!...aliens.

80 DCMC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:26:32pm

And, ironically, Walter Cronkite is the symbol of the MSM

DCMC

81 ibu guru  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:27:04pm

Larry King is renowned as the poorest interviewer in journalistic history. The average celeb interviewer/puff piece cranker has more on the ball. Anybody who wants to "face the press" without being ironed takes a King spot & goes home.

Cronkite has been watching too much CBS. His protege has gone off the deep end, and Wally would rather go wacko than admit he made a bad choice of successor.

Truly Dim-micrats.

82 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:27:40pm

Thank you Osama, for reminding the entire American electorate that you are still out there, alive and well and plotting away.

Quick, according to all the polls, who do the majority of the electorate believe will more successfully and competently handle the War on Terror?

And despite Kerry's attempt the past 4 weeks to turn most of the focus to domestic issues, everybody knows this is a WAR TIME election.

So by showing his face, Osama will cause many voters in the booths who are about to hit the Kerry button to stop and think - Osama is still out there. Do I REALLY trust Kerry to fight the war better than Bush? - and they are going to hit the Bush button instead.

CBS is down the rabbit hole with no hope of coming back.

Bush is going to win by a landslide.

How do I know? Because this ain't like the 2000 election, where nobody could get excited about Gore or Bush; nobody outside of Texas really knew alot about Bush.

This year millions of people are going to vote who didn't vote in 2000. It's war time and they will make the time.

And my prediction is that the Christians who stayed home in 2000 and didn't vote are coming out in force this election and going for Bush, giving him a VERY comfortable margin of victory.

Even with all their false voter registrations and lawsuits the Dem's aren't going to be able to roll back the size of the Bush victory.

Many Christians understand that the War on Terror has a religious component to it that the MSM completely ignores. For the terrorists, it is a religious crusade. The MSM exclusively focuses on the POLITICAL effects of the Al Queda agenda and never seriously looks at the MOTIVES.

NOTE: Politically incorrect statement to follow. Stop reading if you can't handle it.

Christians think Islam is a false religion. They do not think it saves anyone. Unlike the 2000 election, they now see the radical elements on the Islamic religion attacking and threatening America while it tries to spread and again control of the entire Middle East.

This issue of the War on Terror will resonate with the millions of Christians that didn't bother to vote in 2000 and it's going to get them to the voting booths on Tuesday.

Reagan's second landslide was mostly due to the huge influx of the Christian vote, something that the MSM acknowledged in a backhanded kind of way by going on a propaganda campaign where they warned about the 'Religious Right' until Clinton won the White House.

After a huge influx of Christian voters gives this election to Bush, by such a comfortable margin even the squadrons of DNC lawyers can't reverse it, you will see the propaganda trotted out again with a vengeance.

Liberal secularists hate American Christians more than tney hate foriegn terrorists, and it's gonna show.

manofaiki

83 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:27:41pm
The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom.

H. L. Mencken

84 wun wabbit wun  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:28:50pm

Look for Uncle Wallie on Hardball Monday....where is Zell Miller when we need him???

85 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:29:22pm

#70

English German

complaint Krankheit {f}
disease Krankheit {f}
illness Krankheit {f}
malady Krankheit {f}
sickness Krankheit {f}
beriberi Beriberi-Krankheit {f}

[Link: www.dict.cc...]

Walter Cronkite is a disease, an illness,malady, sickness.

#78 kikito

Don't torture yourself - throw Jimmy into the mix - noone will object. He fancies himself a "commentator" anyway.

86 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:30:29pm
A person who trusts no one can't be trusted.

Jerome Blattner

87 soccer4ever  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:30:43pm

Who is Walter Cronkite?

88 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:32:42pm
Mistrust the man who finds everything good, the man who finds everything evil and still more the man who is indifferent to everything.

Johann K Lavater

89 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:33:08pm

#87 soccer4ever

Walter Cronkite is the former News Anchor for CBS News. He's the guy who was replaced by Dan Rather.

Cronkite was the most watched Newsman of the 1960's and 1970's, and it was his slanted coverage of events like the Tet Offensive of the Vietnam War that had a big impact on this country.

Dan Rather is simply getting caught today doing the kinds of stuff Cronkite spent his entire career getting away with.

manofaiki

90 Blackhorse  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:33:58pm

I remember Cronkite beating on the drums of war footage propaganda while I was in Vietnam.

Cronkite hasn't changed.

Kerry hasn't changed.

91 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:34:57pm
Never trust the teller. Trust the tale.

D. H. Lawrence Schmerel

92 ibu guru  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:34:59pm

#78 kikito

What "CLUB"? You ask. Sorry, I don't have a clever name for it. All I can say is it's a club for people who somehow find a way to wreck their own reputation by making an ass of themselves publicly towards the end of their career or after their career ended--either by taking up some batty cause or letting some batty comments fly out of their mouths.

How about the "Corrigan Club" -- as in "wrong-way Corrigan." Instead of retiring gracefully at the top of their career, they are determined to slide back down the slippery slope of senility.

They are out-of-it and cannot accept the fact they are too out of touch to catch up. They stopped and the world passed them by. Another desperate leap for that top rung only generates a plummet to the depths.

93 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:37:03pm
A Promise made is a debt unpaid.

Robert Service

94 Dashing Dasher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:37:12pm

Walter has finally lost it....
And Larry King, sat idly by....

Kick them both to the curb!

95 oceanfire  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:37:16pm

HA! You know what, even IF that was true, (and it's the kind of blatant political manipulation that would usually really tick me off) I would still be happy about it because it means that we'd got the mass murderer.

96 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:38:32pm
Put your trust in God, but keep your powder dry.

Oliver Cromwell

97 noelUSAF  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:39:20pm

INCOMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

98 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:44:41pm
Truth lies within a little and certain compass, but error is immense.

James Agee

99 Evil Bill  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:47:05pm

[laugh]He should get a Nobel Peace Prize, just like his buddy Jimmy Carter. [/laugh]

100 canadianconservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:48:44pm

And Yasir ArabRat.. Peace prize .....

101 ibu guru  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:48:52pm

This email is making the rounds & a friend forwarded it. Gotta share it!

Dan Rather of CBS news was seated next to little Tommy on the plane when
Rather turned to the boy and said, "Let's talk, I've heard that flights go quicker
if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passengers.

Little Tommy, who had just opened his book, closed it slowly, and said to
Rather, "What would you like to discuss?"

"Oh, I don't know" said Rather, "How about politics? Should we keep Bush as
president or elect Kerry?"

"OK" said Little Tommy, "That could be an interesting topic but let me ask
you a question first. A horse, a cow and a deer all eat grass. The same
stuff. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out flat patties, and
a horse excretes clumps of dried grass. Why do you think that is?"

"Jeez" said Rather, "I have no idea."

"Well then" said Little Tommy, "How is it you feel qualified to discuss who
should run this country when you don't know shit?"

Then Tommy went back to reading his book.

102 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:50:30pm

"False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for everyone takes a salutory pleasure in proving their falseness."

Charles Robert Darwin

103 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:57:15pm

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

First Earl of Beaconsfield Benjamin "Dizzy" Disraeli (1804-81)

104 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:58:58pm

"Only ever lie about the future."

Johnny Carson of the Tonight Show

105 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:01:22pm

Was "Wrong Way Corrigan" the pilot who supposedly flew the wrong way?


I think I heard that was a publicity stunt.

I do recall a football player in the 40s or 50s who got confused after recovering a fumble and ran to the wrong end zone for a safety.

106 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:01:45pm

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."

Sir Winston Leonard Spenser Churchill (1874-1965) the Prime Minister.

107 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:05:22pm

Walter Cronkite is the one who gave an anti-American, Marxist, internationalist, anti-Judeo-Christian slant to the news before Dan Rather, and before the internet, talk radio, and FOX.
He always ended the news with, And that's the wya it is", which we now know was never true.

Does anyone remember in grade school, the history documentaries (16 mm film), narrated by Cronkite, "and You Are There!". I wonder what Marxist bullshit history he brainwashed us with that we have not yet come to realize. He helped to shape the worldview of the entire Baby Boom generation.

He is now a has been, and shown to be the unstable paranoid loonie commie that he has always been.

108 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:05:23pm

#83 manofaiki

More potical incorrectness:

Polls aside and I do agree with you about the Christian vote, but my question is this.
Although blacks vote for the democrats because it is in their history, can anyone explain why "polls" show even amongst black evangelicals that they are still over 50% for Kerry. Is is because the WOT, abortion, gay marriage are not front-burner issues? What is the most likely answer to this paradox? Any black LGF'ers out there that can answer this question?

109 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:05:53pm
They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!


Major General John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania, May 8, 1864, moments before "they" [Confederate snipers] hit him, killing him instantly.


Sedgwick County Kansas, within which lies my hometown Wichita, was subsequently named for him.

110 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:06:14pm

"Truth exists, only falsehood has to be invented."


Georges Braque

111 conservati  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:08:11pm

Can MSM get any more desperate?

It has gone beyond annoying, to stupid and now damn funny.

These people are idiots.

Walter has obviously lost his marbles, or him and Dan have been smokin' too much wacky tabbacky.

We need to get out the straight jackets for both of them and throw them in a rubber room until the election is over.

112 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:08:54pm

"What makes all doctrines plain and clear?- About two hundred pounds a year. And that which was prov'd true before Prove false again? Two hundred more."

Samuel Butler (1612-80), some English guy who wrote things

113 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:09:39pm

Oh, and #87, soccer4ever,

Walter Cronkite is old as the hills - he was old when I was in grade school in the early 1960's! His rants lately have been increasingly paranoid and delusional, so, unfortunately, he may be developing senile dementia.

And he lives in a palatial mansion in Boca Raton, FL, and has a private jet, dhauffered limousine, etc. He lives in his own little dream world with little or no contact with reality.

One more thing about Krankheit: His is the intellectual and journalistic mentor of Dan Rather: Dan's hero. Now you understand where Dan gets it.

114 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:11:07pm

Samuel Butler also said "I do not mind lying but I hate inaccuracy." He was very opinionated.

115 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:11:53pm
116 Geepers  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:13:02pm

Ed Moran,

Jim Marshall,

In one of the more memorable moments in NFL history, the Vikings jarred the ball loose from 49ers' halfback Billy Kilmer during the fourth quarter of Minnesota's 27-22 win in San Francisco on October 25, 1964.

Teammate Jim Marshall promptly snagged the ball and sprinted 66 yards to the end zone. Unfortunately for Marshall, he had gone the wrong way and scored a safety for San Francisco.

117 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:13:28pm

#103

Darwin should know about false facts, because he shoveled more than most people in history.

118 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:13:52pm

If Samuel Butler is correct that

Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a person of some sense to know how to lie well

Walter is senseless.

119 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:14:44pm

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."

-Barry Goldwater

120 daver  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:15:42pm

I think Walter Cronkite and Helen Thomas would make a nice couple. Mr. & Mrs. Moonbat, with Dan Rather as their loonie live-at-home son.

121 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:20:21pm

#120

Why do I have in my mental picture two toads?


A good friend of mine told me once that the way he can tell a liberal from a conservative is that liberals are, by and large, ugly. Amazingly, he was often correct. Poor Helen Thomas is exhibit one.

122 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:20:44pm

When I read the Psalms, I think of George Bush. King David's enemies were always out to get him, spreading lies, hatching plots, double crossing, and spreading more lies. I guess this is nothing new - it just is SOP among humans when someone stands firm for truth and right. There is always just a faint glimmer of truth in the world, and someone in each generation seems to rise to defend it. In most cases in history the majority opposes the truth for whatever reason (a long subject), so it is really a miracle that the US, the ONLY country in the world based on the premise of limited government, and the sovereignty of the individual (John Locke), has survived so far.

123 2X4 wielder  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:23:37pm

I first came to dislike Cronkite during the 60s. I was teenager and a big fan of space exploration and Cronkite was the man in charge of that at CBS. It was during the first flight to the moon when Cronkite began to go on and on about the first TV pictures of the Earth from the portable TV camera pointed out the LEM window. He was spouting great words meant to go down in the history books. And then the NASA advisor, an astronaut I think, pointed out that the video was an unfocused color wheel on one of the LEM's landing pad that was meant to calibrate the camera. It was then that I realized that Chronkite was bag of gas. I never looked at any news anchor the same after that, and find celebrity personality in the news media to be wrong and damaging to the news media as a whole. Cronkite, Rather, whoever. The whole industry is doomed anyway.

124 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:25:46pm
"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived and dishonest--but the myth--persistant, persuasive and unrealistic."

John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1917-63), brother of young Edward Kennedy, United States Senator, liberal Democrat, Massachusetts, old, ugly, intoxicated, perverted victim of sloth, overindulgence, vanity, greed, lust, anger, and hemorrhoids.

125 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:29:54pm

You cannot hope to bribe or twist
Praised be the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
Un-bribed, there's no occasion to.

Humbert Wolfe

126 Boss429  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:33:31pm

If Larry King had made Walter Crank Case expound upon his statement CNN would have to give equal time for rebuttal. By ignoring it they can get away with a partisan action and blow it off as a feeble old man, possibly with alzheimers, on a rant

127 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:34:48pm

"It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place."

Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), a United States citizen often cited as H. L. Mencken

128 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:36:52pm

"A legend is a lie that has attained the dignity of age."

Henry Louis Mencken

129 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:39:53pm

just saw the impressive Glenda Hood, former mayor of Orlando and now Florida Secretary of State, on Fox. Carter apparently trashed her and the Florida electoral system in an op ed in the WaPost. She said that she has invited Jimmy and anyone from the Carter Center to meet with them, discuss, show them all the changes. She welcomes it. But to date she has not heard from Jimmy or anyone at the Carter Center (for electoral fairness or something like that). Sort of shows you what Carter's really about.

And who would have EVER thought that the Florida Secretary of State would be a position with a national platform? Amazing!

130 TGregg  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:45:10pm

Bananas. The left is absolutely going stark raving mad. I predict that if Bush wins, they'll be claiming that the Greys or Grays (or whatever they call those "extraterrestrials") landed in their flying saucers and voted for Bush, and that's what swung the election.

131 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:46:10pm

"Anyone who does not feel sufficiently strong in memory should not meddle with lying."

Caution: Ameicans, do not attempt pronunciation of author's name

Michel Eyquem de Montaigne (1533-92), a French guy who wrote essays. He wrote this in the 16th century when France was a nice place.

132 happydog  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:46:20pm

Have a gif and a beer, my dears!

133 mobobre  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:49:44pm

I disliked him when he was in his prime. Now he's nothing but a bumbling fool trying his best to help an undeserving liberal attain the presidency. Should this happen it will go down in history as one of Americas darkest days.

134 TGregg  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:51:10pm

133 mobobre

Sad to say, but we will have darker days indeed, should that occur. :(

135 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:52:03pm

#131
Lawrence Schmerel

Uh, I didn't know France was ever a nice place. Are you sure about that? I don't think it was. I think it's always been a shithole filled with smelly spineless snobs.

136 Geepers  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:55:34pm

happydog,

Why thanks, don't mind if I do.

137 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:56:04pm

#135 antiquebob

I read a little of the history of the French Foreign Legion. I was struck by the fact that the best French fighters have always not been French.


The only Frenchman I really ever appreciated was Dumas.

138 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:57:37pm
139 marine mom 91  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:01:21pm

I didn't realize how much power Mr. Rove has. If he could get bin laden to do that video why didn't he collect on the 25 million dollar reward by asking bin laden to do him another favor and turn himself in?

I wonder if old Walter believes in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

140 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:02:24pm

#137

Well, Dumas was part African - his grandmother was a slave in Haiti. And likely if you exhume him, and do a DNS test, you'll find that none of his ancestry is actually French. Because nothing good can come from France. It is the single most vile culture on the earth.

141 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:07:02pm

#137

That's right, I had forgotten that! At best he's 3/4 French! I think you're right, too; someone with his obvious talent must certainly have not been French.

142 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:07:21pm

#139 marine mom 91

No, no. You don't understand (yet). There is no real Usama bin Laden - he's just an actor paid by Rove. Rove, the Jews,and the CIA conceived the whole thing - Rove to give legitimacy to Bush's presidency after the 2000 election, and the Jews to get the US to fight Arab/Moslems to help Israel. Gosh, where have you been? Didn't you watch Farenheit 911? Didn't you see Walter Cronkite on Larry King last night? You really need to inform yourself or Kerry will send you to the reeducation camp.

143 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:12:32pm

#138 Harb

"It is a good thing"


OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark!

144 Lawrence Schmerel  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:12:42pm

Dar:

May all who read what I have quoted here be so inspired.

145 zulubaby  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:13:01pm

I wonder what Cronkite makes of the fact that the US tried to block Osama video.

146 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:14:10pm

#137 Conagher

He was treated poorly by the French because of his mixed racial ancestry.

3/4 French is still too much - any French is too much. Yes, he is so talented he probably is not really French. Dumas could be a slavic/russian sirname. Also, since his father fought for the Foreigh Legion, perhaps he was not really French, but a paid soldier (the French can't fight their own wars), who took on a French name to help assimilate.

147 scrapiron  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:15:10pm

#82

I agree with your post. I hope that you are right. I know that in 2000 I went to see President Bush (then Govenor) at a Minneapolis airport hanger. About 7,000 were there. This time we were at the Target Center and over 23,000 attended. The place roared when he talled about signing the ban on partial birth abortion. It also got wound up to the song "amazing grace."

I could tell the religious right was out in full force for Bush and thats a good thing.

148 steph_gray  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:15:48pm

I just bust out laughing when I saw this headline tonight (late joining). I have been evolving a theory that each time it dawns on the LLLs that something is going very wrong for Kerry, someone rings a bell, someone salivates, and someone (usually at DU) blames Karl Rove. During yesterday's threads I kept meaning to pop unto the DU to see whether the bell had rung yet, but it got too late, I got too tired, and today I was out buying an exercise bike (I guess this is the soon-to-be-snowy lame-east-coast version of Charles' adventure).

Imagine my surprise to enter lgf tonight and see that Water Kronkite was the DU-er who salivated! Every time I think this election can't get any more entertaining, something proves me wrong.

149 Boss429  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:17:32pm

#137

How is that Frenchmans name pronounced in the American version of English?

150 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:18:49pm

#143, unpronounceable

OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark!

Apparently not. *adjusts windage*

#144, Lawrence Schmerel

May all who read what I have quoted here be so inspired.
151 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:19:35pm

#148 steph_gray

The fact that they attack Carl Rove so viciferously speaks to his effectiveness and success!

152 steph_gray  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:30:12pm

#151 antiquebob

Very true. I turned on Laura Ingraham's show last week and heard a man - nay, a gentleman - talking intelligently and calmly about the election with nary a spin in the several minutes I heard. It was like a breath of fresh air. Eventually I realized she was interviewing Karl - it was the first time I'd heard him. You could also tell what a great sense of humor he has.

I can just picture him lurking here and chuckling away when he has a few minutes...

153 dak  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:41:04pm

Oh yeah, the "U.S. lost the Tet offensive" Cronkite? Me thinks he's gone Cocoa Puffs. If buddy had that kind of power, Usama woud be licking Dubya's bag by now...

154 oldtimer  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:43:15pm

From Yesterday's Opinion Journal:

ABC News has aired an English-language video that the CIA says "appears to have been produced by al Qaeda's media organization, al Sahab productions." It features a man calling himself "Azzam the American," who speaks oddly accented but apparently fluent English:

"No, my fellow countrymen you are guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty. You are as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell," he says in what he calls his message to America. "After decades of American tyranny and oppression, now it's your turn to die. Allah willing, the streets of America will run red with blood matching drop for drop the blood of America's victims."

Mentioning Bush administration officials by name makes this sound like a Kerry campaign ad,though if we were a conspiracy-minded Democrat, we'd suspect Republicans planted this to paint terrorists as Kerry allies.

Not only is Walter addled, he plagiarizes Taranto's intellectual property.

155 donner  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:43:28pm

#78

CLUB- Clearly Lost Upstairs Bulb

156 Glen Wishard  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:52:51pm

I just wrote a post on this -Beyond the Echo Chamber. Sort of some thoughts that have been brewing for a while.

My theory is that liberals have been trying to play politics anonymously for so long - behind an MSM smoke screen - that they've virtually abolished themselves. Now the nihilist LLLs are calling the shots. And even the old squares like Cronkite are turning into LLLs.

Now it remains to be seen if 9/11 Democrats can rebuild a real liberalism.

157 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:02:43pm

#146

The French have had a long history of racial harmony, haven't they?

158 our gal sal  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:05:56pm

#35 urthushu

Our "friend" Mikey is posting 1-866-ourvote as the number to summon a swarm of video-camera toting moonbats anywhere there's any voter 'intimidation' going on. To do their own intimidation, of course.

The security guard at my husband's workplace, a polling site, has been going along the line at early voting announcing: " X County! Do you all live in X County? If you live in Y County, you are in the wrong line!"

Does that count?

I mean, he might have damaged someone's widdle feelings when they realized they were at the wrong polling place.

159 locutus  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:11:33pm
Eleanor Clift just echoed, in her extremely irritating whiny voice

Gawd, how'd you like to be married to that...ughnn....

160 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:15:35pm

If the internet had been around back then, that a-hole Cronkite would have been rightfully exposed as a commie sympathizing, moonbat Be-otch. Instead he is revered as some kind of media Obi-Wan-Knobi.

As a kid growing up, I thought he was the same guy as Captain Kangaroo. Now I know Bob Keeshan was the smarter of the two. Sorry Captain..

161 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:18:11pm

#157 Conagher

NO. The French are a vile, racist people filled with empty pride and hatred for the rest of the world. They, along with Canada, should be added to the AXIS OF EVIL.

162 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:22:38pm

#159 locutus

I think I'd rather be married to Teresa Kerry Heinz than Elaner Clift. Thanks to you I'm going to have nightmares now, wake up in the middle of the night screaming for Elanor to get off me, I have a headache. A big headache.

At least with Teresa, she's rich, so we could go our separate ways, take separate vacations to the Italian mansion, etc, have a mistress or two, live like the rich Democrats elites do.

163 tom in seattle  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:23:40pm

"Courage" - Dan Rather

164 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:24:53pm

#161

My facetiousness didn't quite make it into my post, I guess. That's my fault. Anyway the oh-so enlightened French seem to almost revel in their anti-Semitism. Hitler didn't come up with his hatred of the Jews on his own. He had plenty of help from the French.

165 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:24:55pm

Revolutionary War could have been prevented - just ask Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy (teeth) Carter was on Hardball the other night and said that the Revolutionary War could have been prevented if the Brits had been more "sensitive" to our cause. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Freakin balloonist - his balloon NEVER lands.

166 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:27:16pm

#162

Jeez, I'd rather be married to Angelina Jolie than ANY of those other women. Just for one night though. I do have SOME morals!

167 locutus  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:31:49pm

#162

I think I'd rather be married to Teresa Kerry Heinz than Elaner Clift.

A.K.A. "Stepmoney", as the Kerry kids call her.

Oh, and just to throw this in, because I haven't in a while..

Laurie Dhue: Hottest Newsbabe Ever.

168 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:40:20pm

#167

"Stepmoney"


That was really, really funny. Thanks for the laugh!

169 AlphaMu42  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:44:53pm

#48 ErnieG
Thanks for the link (and the spew warning) Love that OBL line:

How about that John Kerry wife - the crazy one. Two burkas for her at least!
170 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:52:25pm

#48 ErnieG

Thanks for the link - ROFLMAO!!

171 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:52:36pm

161 antiquebob

I'm with you until the part about Canadiens being part of the axis of evil. Many Canadiens are very conservative ready to go into whatever battle the US goes. Many others are timid peaceniks happy to ride the US peace train while protesting operations involved securing that peace.

Overall, the peaceniks outnumber the conservatives, but I wouldn't call them evil, just pussified ingrates who are afraid to hurt the terrorist's feelings.

172 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:54:55pm

#165 satan sidekick

Jimmy Carter also said in the same interview that MORE Americans have been killed in Iraq than the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. How did that lunatic ever become President?

And isn't it tortuous to listen to him speak! It's something about the lips held tightly over the teeth, and the awful accent.

173 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:00:17pm

#171 mich-again

Seems to me like Canada is a lot like the US except with a whole bunch more liberals. And Muslims. And French.


When I went to Canada once, it just seemed like a not as good United States. I think it's what the US will be if the trend towards liberalism isn't averted.

174 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:02:23pm

#171 mich-again

Well, why do 80% of Canadian "youth" say that they hate us? Why do their leaders call Bush an "idiot"? Why do they harbor Islamic terrorists and undermine our efforts at controlling the borders? Why do they undermine us in the UN? in international economic affairs?
I agree that there is a minority of good, conservative Canadians, but the majority hate the US, as does the government and the media.
Canada has the luxury to be anti-American by virtue of geography, US protection, and trade with the US.
Perhaps the best solution would be to split Canada up - the western and maritime provinces could join the US federation, and Ontario and Quebec go it on their own.

175 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:05:19pm

Canada as a whole is no longer "western". It's a post-Christian, collectivist pacifist state.

And you are correct: That is one frightening scenerio - it's what the left in this country wants us to be.

176 antiquebob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:10:10pm

...and the number ONE problem with Canada: It's one third FRENCH!

177 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:10:39pm

#175

Well, it is where the best and brightest of the liberals in the baby boomer generation fled to. Fortunately we were left with the dregs like Clinton and Kerry. At least we can thank Canada for taking that bullet meant for us.

178 Flatlander by the Lake  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:14:55pm

The Media interviewing The Media. Great. What, did they run out of people that are ACTUALLY INVOLVED in today's news events to interview? Apparently.

I just finished watching Stolen Honor (which I bought through newsmax.com). I cried seeing how the media turned this country against it's warriors.

Cronkite is a disgrace. He HARMED this country back in the Nam days. He was complicit ...

And I see the striking parallels between how I felt then as a teenager, to how today's teenagers are reacting. I was Mr. Anti-war, because I didn't have the foggiest notion about what the big picture was. Just whatever Cronkite told us as my family sat eating dinner with the TV news on. He convinced us all we were doing the wrong thing.

Today's media is doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. The only difference is that today we have alternate sources of information (God bless). Stooges like Cronkite can't unwittingly (?) betray our country.

If JF-nK gets elected, there will be a short honeymoon with the media, then all of Kerry's treason and perjury will be front page news for four years

[Shudder]

179 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:15:07pm

Antiquebob

.......and why has Canada supported the US in almost every endevour of the 20th Century. ?

Our troops are still in Afghanistan and their record there is superb.
Our contribution to Gulf 1 was small, but effective.

Even in Viet Nam, when our Government did not back the US, Canadian youth did and did so to the tune of close to 15,000 of them crossing the border to join the US Forces, while all we got from you were a bunch of chicken shit draft dodgers.
You got our best, friend, and we got your worst.

180 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:20:09pm

Another reason the Canadians hate us. They accuse us of not buying enough of their beef and lumber. This is true. Bush has been blamed for this too! They call him a thug.

Here is an email from a typical Canadian responding to my rant after she sent me the world poll showing they wanted Kerry want to win our election:

Now that you have that out of your system, I'll reply to your rant..
> I sent you the email because I thought you'd get a laugh from it. Nothing
> more.
>
> I don't know exactly what country Canada is hitching their wagon to that
may
> not meet with everyone's approval, but I have to say that Canada did not
> agree with 'the shrub's' invasion because we are one country who without
> reserve never believed that Saddam had WMD. We will not hide from that
fact.
>
> I don't like what's going on in the world at large, but I can say that
> myself and many other Canadians think that BUsh is an
> idiot...period....prior to 911 we thought this much and further more I
will
> not debate whether the invasion of another country was legal or not, I
will
> only say that the USA are bullies from a military stand point and if the
> world doesn't agree with their views then they go home with the ball or
beat
> them up....the middle east is/was/has been a boiling pot of trouble and
> sending in troops only made things worse for them. The soldiers will never
> win as the enemy is faceless. They are fighting against a state of mind
and
> you know what I mean by this.We have corresponded regarding this exact
> problem before.
>
> I can only see that like a Pit Bull the Americans cannot leave and this
will
> mean that many, many more will die and the fear that 911 brought into
their
> lives will carry on for many many years to come. I don't think that Saddam
> was right or great, I just think that he was able to keep a lid on a
people
> who want to kill and enjoy doing it.
>
> I have to remind you that in WWII the Americans didn't not enter into the
> war when many Jews and others where being killed because they didn't want
to
> get involved.Yet, other allied countries like Canada where there at the
> front for many years and many a Canadian died before one American ever set
> foot on those foreign shores. It was not until Pearl Harbour that the
> Yankees decided to get in on the fun.
>
> So don't paint me a picture of Apple Pie. I am capable of seeing more then
> the obvious. I don't like Bush, never have. I do love America, always
> will.....doesn't mean that I have to agree with the fact that young
> Americans are dieing because of Bush's ego. And for the record.....I wish
> that Hiiary was running...don't like Kerry much either.
>

181 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:23:44pm

Antique Bob

You lasted longer than I did on that Carter interview. After the "sensitive" line I turned off the TV. Enough lunacy for one night.

I stood in line for 2 1/2 hours during the Carter/Reagan election to make sure the man was run out of office.

I will stand in line as long as it takes to vote for Bush.

182 glwing  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:25:32pm

We spent some time in Quebec last summer. We had thought about canceling that part of our trip but finally decided against it. We found the people about equally friendly and hostile.
Some may have not liked the fact that we were traveling on a motorcycle (many wrong conceptions about bike riders) others I saw sneer at the American flag flying from the bike.

They get only one side of the news there and it is all left.

183 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:26:35pm

antiquebob..

I question that 80% of Canadien youth hate the US. Sounds pretty fishy to me. But I will say, they can be a pompous arrogant bunch who lack in courage but make up for it in ego.

Perfect example.. Toronto sends their garbage 200+ miles to Michigan to dump it in privately owned landfills in the Wayne County area. Is there a less populated country than Canada? Yet they ship hundreds of trucks a day, hundreds of miles because there is no place for a landfill in Canada?? No the Canadians feel their country is too pristine for a landfill so they send it to the shit-hole that is the USA. (John Kerry wants to check incoming cargo containers, yet Democrat Gov. Jennifer Granholm doesn't want to check or stop incoming garbage!!)

So while I share your frustration with Canadian arrogance and intransigence in the war on terror, it's not because they are evil. Its because they are out of touch pansy-asses who have become accustomed to the free protection we provide.

184 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:30:16pm

#180

Typical socialist. Same stuff is said all over Europe and on many a domestic college campus by many students and most of the faculty. "We are smart, you are stupid, let's all hold hands and think happy thoughts while we pile on the US." Canada is North America's western Europe.


Maybe we could do a cultural exchange and trade our Noam Chomskis, Pinch Sulzbergers and Michael Moores for their conservatives (sadly, none come to mind). We could also trade away our Muslims. I'm sure they'll be good buddies with the socialists. They can practice terrorism on big buildings in Toronto and Ontario.

185 bummer  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:30:20pm

The French are pushovers, just like Kerry, they've earn the title of "Soldiers of Surrender". Now terrorists have taken over that country.
The French warrior gene pool died out when Napoleon led his ill equipped men to many battles they could not win.
Certainly everybody knows about our Hollywood idiots. They live in their own little world of make believe and retakes. How ironic is it that the only person left in France with any balls/testosterone is a former female movie star sex goddess that is not afraid to speak her mind about the state of her country, Brigitte Bardot

186 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:33:26pm

Canadian Jumper

You must be one of the 20% that does not hate us.

I am from Canadian ancestry, but 5th generation American. I have never visited Canada, but speak with many who live there over email.

I know that I am related to a large percentage of Canadians so I really don't like to pick on them. Something has happened in Canada in the past few years. They should not have hitched their wagon to the European mindset. Europe is a failure - please don't imitate them.

187 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:42:45pm

#186 Satan Sidekick

Look, the clowns up here that talk and act in the manner you guys are describing are the ones that read the same drivel in the MSM that the asshats in the US do.

If I were to only read the Daily Kos and DU, what kind of impression would I come away with about Americans?
But, I have served alongside American soldiers and we have always had the deepest respect for one another, so I know better.
There are many suppoters of GWB up here but we have a completely Liberal media and you will NEVER see an article or letter illustrating that.

You have MANY friends up here but attacking them in the manner of the last bunch of posts will surely only erode that support.

188 glwing  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:48:42pm

#187 Canadian Jumper

You have MANY friends up here but attacking them in the manner of the last bunch of posts will surely only erode that support.

I didn't think I attacked anyone in my post #182 and even stated that all they get is LLL news.

I, for one, appreciate our Canadian friends but wish the number was higher.

189 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:01:20pm

Canadian Jumper

I apologize for upsetting you. The kind of talk I posted has upset me (this person who wrote is a cousin of mine).

I have always thought of Canada in a good light before I started getting emails like this.

I understand that they won't allow Fox News to be televised in Canada but allow Al Jazeera?

Has the world gone mad?

190 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:04:50pm

Canadian Jumper..

This whole misunderstanding would go away if everyone in the USA listened to Don Cherry speak for 5 minutes. Can't you guys make him ambassador to the UN or something. Its not like he's busy these days..

191 extrabob  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:07:12pm

When I was a kid, I thought that Cronkite was the God of Journalism. I watched him every night, even though my mother hated him. He told me that President Kennedy was dead. I grew up and found out that he was the godfather of biased journalism. I met him when I worked as an extra in George Clooney's FAIL SAFE in 2000. Cronkite did the intro. We rehearsed for nine days, and did it live on the ninth evening. On the ninth afternoon I was eating lunch alone in the Warner Brothers commissary when George Clooney, Richard Dreyfuss, and Walter Cronkite sat down at my table. By the time I was finished eating lunch with those guys, I was convinced that Cronkite was in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's.

192 Tats66  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:09:00pm

Did Cronkite blame Rove for the soiling of his Depends too??? Sheesh

193 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:09:26pm

My Dad used to say that Cronkite was a commie - he was right. I always thought my Dad was a lot like Archie Bunker :)

194 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:10:52pm

#189 Satan Sidekick

No apologies neccessary! I have been around the world twice and around the block a hundred times.
After 25 yrs in the Army, jumping out of perfectly
serviceable aircraft and also seeing what hurt people can inflict on one another, a minor disagreement like this isn't going to bothher me.!

The problem is that we have had successive Liberal Government and our Education System is rife with "lefties". Our young people NEVERR see the other side of the story.
I am on a personal crusade to "educate" as many as I can and believe me when I say that it draws the ire of many of the moonbats!

God Bless America and The Maple Leaf Forever !!

195 zulubaby  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:12:49pm

Not one mention of Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard! How can that be?

196 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:14:35pm

#190 mich-again

Couldn't agree with you more!!!

Dandy Don is typical of those of us who support the US and is revered amongst us "righties".

Ambassador to the UN my ass!! Nothing less than Prime Minister will suffice!

197 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:17:57pm

#191

Clooney and Dreyfuss aren't exactly paragons of sanity themselves. It's cool that you met them though.


#193


I never really thought it was that grave an insult to be compared to Archie Bunker. At least not as bad as the creators would have liked.

198 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:21:46pm

#193

You are dead on! I remember reading an article, about a year into the series, an it seems that more people empathized with Archie thhan with Meathead!

It came as a great shock to them, no doubt!

199 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:25:42pm

#194

No insult to you personally, but I never really thought the Canadians had much of a military since the socialists took over. I've heard tell that the socialists in charge there are pretty stingy when it comes to things military. Doesn't the Canadian version of the Thunderbirds fly around in T-38s?


I've got a good friend who's EOD in the US Navy. He's on his second trip to sunny Baghdad right now. He'll vouch for you Canadians. I think the thing he likes about your snake eaters is they don't steal as much booze as the Polish ones do. :)

200 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:28:33pm

I used to love Archie Bunker. See how far left this country has gone. Imagine the PC police letting Archie Bunker be televised on CBS today?

We are on the slippery slope and heading for a crash to the bottom.

201 Canadian Jumper  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:36:32pm

#199 Conagher

While it is true that most of our equipment is antiquated, the quality of our troopies hasn't suffered.
Mainly because of the hard core of NCO's...Sgt's and WO's who pass on the traditions of thhe old Army and refuse to become fully inculcated with the nonsense of being the testing ground for every new whhacko social programme that the Libs can dream up.

Our PPCLI snipers did Yeoman work in the Hindu Kush with your guys and in the process gained the world record for distance when one of our guys took out a [bigoted word] mortarman.
They were also awarded 5 of your Bronze Stars with V device.

Little is known of the actions of our Special Forces teams (JTF2) but believe me they have been right in there with the Delta force and the Aussie SAS.

(The Poles MUST have taken drinking lessons from the Canucks!!)

202 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:46:09pm

#55

Cronkite = Krankheit (it's German)

Cronkite = Krankraut is what I was thinking :-)

203 kevin the ox  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:59:59pm

Why is it that anyone gives any of these teleprompter readers any real credence in the first place, onscreen or off? They don't do their own research or writing, and are no more "original" than actors, pretty faces with good voices who merely read for us with their ridiculous looks of mock concern, gravity, or humor. How utterly stupid is their lionization.

204 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 10:08:28pm

#201

I figured your noncoms were pretty squared away. My friend thought pretty highly of his counterparts in the Canadian forces. Frankly I'm surprised you're able to keep morale up as you guys seem to get a lot of resistance from the home front.


As for the drinking, I was amazed that anyone could outdo the Aussies. I hung with some of those guys when I studied in S. Korea. It was a competition between them and the Koreans as to who could drink the others under the table. I think the Aussie women could drink most American men under the table. Regarding the Poles, my friend didn't say the drank all that much (for SF types, that is), they just stole a lot of it, or cheated in cards to get it or the like. It struck me as kinda weird. Maybe they were sending care packages back home?

205 rtheyserius  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 10:29:22pm

#70: Tuesday night will be known as "The Night of the Volvo Suicides".

Brilliant!

206 drscroogemcduck  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 11:09:12pm

Message to Karl Rove:

If Bush wins please get Osama to make a video accusing you (Karl) of deceiving the American people into voting for Bush.

Please. Please Please.

207 RedInLa  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 11:04:40pm

Hey, Tony, thanks for your support, but can you please shut your stupid wife's pie hole.

scotlandonsunday.com

CHERIE Blair has criticised the policies of the US President George W Bush, attacking his stance on terrorist prisoners and gay rights.

The Prime Minister’s wife was condemned by supporters of the US President, after a speech to Harvard law students which contained a stinging rebuke to Bush, while on a lecture tour of the United States.

She attacked the manner in which the White House has dealt with the human rights of UK citizens detained at the US-run Camp X-Ray prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

208 'Nam Grunt  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 11:07:13pm

#207,

I haven't seen that, but I think she needs a MIDOL, if that's true.

209 Albertadude  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 11:35:05pm

A few comments from this Proud Albertan but ashamed Canadian....

First I did see the Cronkite King interview live last night and too be fair, Walter did let out a little chuckle after he made his comment which was sort of made facestiously but one cannot be sure with Walter....its hard too say whether he meant it or not.........but he is a liberal bastard that has been a traitor to his country stretching back to the 60's when he lied about the U.S. not being able to win in Vietnam.....I havn't liked this man for over 20 years and he continues to get more idiotic with each passing day!

As for the Christian vote for Bush, that indeed is going to be MUCH bigger this time and considering that Evangelicals according to some estimates are around 70 million and mayby higher in America, that is going to be a huge boost....

Actually CNN last night had a special on Evangelicals in America and there influence on the election and for CNN it wasn't too badly.........they didn't do the usual hatchet jobs and make US all look like back woods illiterate uneducated barbarians which is the norm with MSM.....rather fair and pleasantly so...

As for Black Evangelicals and the lack of vote for Bush, there numbers are surely increasing as we see Kerry is WAY down in Black vote and Bush is upto 20 percent which is a BIG difference....even the Black folks in my Church up here quite often will refer to the Gay marriage issue and are very appreciative of Pres. Bush stance on this....


As for Canada, believe you me America, I am as pissed off and disgusted with the direction of this vile socialist country.......It started over 35 years ago with Pearson and Trudeau and contines to this day.......and they have control of our Media and education even more so then America......and that is scary...

Canada at one time was a Great Nation......no longer.....BUT in the West, we still are fairly common sense and especially in Alberta where I live....

Remember it is mainly Quebec that drags us down the sewer into multiculturism and socialism......and sadly Southern Ontario too....

My apologies to the good conservatives in this part of Canada.....

But as others have stated, many many fine Conservative American supporters........just not enough.....

And we must remember that so many American loons are trying to ruin your country too.....from hollywood, media, judiciary and higher academia and the NEA, you have the same forces trying to ruin your nation....but gladly, most Americans are aware of these tactics and fight back...

Sadly just the other day, I saw a car here in Calgary with Oregan plates and the drivers were either 2 old hippies or lesbians (seriously they had the look) and on the back of there window was a sign stating, 'King George.....Off with his head'.........I sneered at them when I drove by........they probably think that they will get lots of applause up here with there death threats but a lot of us Albertans are not sympathetic to killing the President........it goes to show that a lot of leftist loons sadly reside in America also....

Anyways, I hope Alberta or the West eventually separates and either joins the States or forms it own country........Ottawa has ruined us.....and this sadly shows no signs of abating..........the brainwashing up here is immense...and continues....

Anyways........God Bless America and Canada....We surely need that blessing....

Devon

210 Rufus Lee King  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:38:11am

After someone changes Walter, could someone please change Walter?

211 gromster  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:50:37am

I was going to post the link to that story until I scrolled down and saw this entry.

I have an on-line friend who believes in the wacko conspiracy theories that George W. Bush was behind 9/11 in some way.

Just when I thought that the recent Bin Laden video (where he admits to being behind 9/11) would silence some of the conspiracy theorists, here comes Mr. Cronkite saying the Bin Laden tape was cooked up by Bush affiliates.

I just think it's absolutely vile to accuse Mr. Bush of being behind 9/11. I can't believe how low some people will stoop.

212 gromster  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:58:39am

#14 Spiny Norman 10/30/2004 04:45PM PST

In other news, Walter Cronkite has joined the Tin Foil Hat Brigade.

Reynolds WrapTM must be making a fortune off these guys. :o)

213 Van Impe  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:43:13am

Cronkite has lost his mind. He couldn't remember when the last presidential election was (does he know what year we're in, doubtful), couldn't remember Kerry's name. Here's a quote from the show,after the OBL tape was played:

CRONKITE: What we just heard. So now the question is basically right now, how will this affect the election? And I have a feeling that it could tilt the election a bit. In fact, I'm a little inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing. The advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of, as a principal subject of the campaigns right now, get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive dump. Right now, that, the last couple of days, has, I think, upset the Republican campaign.


Larry's "follow up question:

KING: Are there enough undecideds to tilt this? Or what do you think of the whole election picture?


CRONKITE: Well, I think it's one of the biggest messes we've had in a long time. I believe that we're undoubtedly not going to know the results of this election. I don't want to knock you off the air on Monday night or anything, or Tuesday night. But I suspect that we're not going to know who the next president is, whether it is Bush or the new man, until very probably sometime in the early spring. There's so much controversy that they're planting, deliberately planting at the polls, that there's almost certainly to be a suit going back to the Supreme Court eventually, going through the other courts slowly first.

Here's another gem from uncle Walt:

KING: He sure is. Is Iraq the central issue in this campaign?
CRONKITE: I feel it is. I feel it is. We do know that the economy is very important. Unemployment very important to a lot of people. And a lot -- and besides unemployment, there are a lot of people who are poorly paid in the United States today. We've got a poverty list, which is we forget about the percentage of poverty, families in the United States. It's quite shameful. They're to be considered as well. And if the Democrats have succeeded, are succeeding in registering as many people as is indicated, they're going to have a fairly good bloc of votes on the economy.

And more:

KING: A huge turnout?


CRONKITE: Oh, yes, I do. I think so. The only thing that could damage the turnout would be the threats that might be implied, as many of the new registrees are challenged as to their various things. Their spelling of their name and the state where they really come from, whether they're immigrants or not, do they have passports, all that kind of thing. If they are challenged at the polls, as they line up to go into the polls, they may fear having to answer all those questions. Particularly if they do have anything wrong about them and shouldn't vote.

Walt is certainly afflicted, not with Alzhiemers, but with BDS.

214 bummer  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:47:28am

With all these references to Canada and pacifism, I'm convinced it's all due to the French language itself.
Once people begin to say shit like OUI Oui, the testosterone level begins to drop, won't be long before it's over.
Hey, doesn't Kerry speak French?

215 Frank IBC  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:59:07am

Peter Jennings is exploiting the upcoming change of command at CBS, but is he also taking a swipe at Dan Rather?

From today's New York Times:

The commercials are as patriotic as those created for any presidential candidate. As wistful piano chords provide the soundtrack, a parade of Rockwellian images - front porches, mothers and children, construction workers and an American flag - passes by.

These ads, however, were not created for President Bush or Senator John Kerry, but for Peter Jennings, the longtime anchor of ABC's "World News Tonight.''

And they are a result of an extremely rare moment in television news. On Dec. 2, for the first time in 21 years, one of the big broadcast networks will replace the anchor of its evening newscast, when Tom Brokaw yields the top-rated "NBC Nightly News'' to Brian Williams. That transition is expected to touch off a period of anchor shopping among some of the nearly 25 million viewers who still watch the evening news on the broadcast networks each night.

Seeking to reclaim the ratings lead he lost seven years ago, Mr. Jennings, 66, is making the most of the changing of the guard, and in a manner unusually personal and pointed for the typically clubby competition of the network news divisions. Mr. Jennings has taken to the road to interview voters and candidates, and meet advertisers, in electoral swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, which are also battlefields in the ratings contest between the nightly news programs of NBC and ABC.

And while the ads created for - and featuring - Mr. Jennings do not mention his principal opponent, the tag line, in the eyes of some in the industry, appears to be an unmistakable shot across the anchor desk.

"Trust,'' the narrator intones, "is earned.''

216 Evil Bill  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:44:57am

There are many people in Canada who support the U.S., & George Bush. Pint sized pop-stars do not speak for me. I grew up at the border with Detroit, & consider the U.S. my friend.
Canada, has been shaped for the last 30 years by the Liberals. They allow primarily people who are voter-friendly to them, to immigrate. This is particularily true in Quebec, which explains the large number of Muslim French-speaking immigrants. The Liberals only care about getting re-elected. This is why you hear so much anti-American crap coming from the newsmedia up here. They don't allow Fox, but allow Al-Jazeera, it's simply keeping their voter base happy.

217 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:55:10am

#167

Disagree and to my shame that I even post this, I have to say Rita Cosby.

Since I am married, I have to hope my wife does not read this. Having said that, I think she really has great looks, even before the apparent weight loss.

Sorry for this detour of vouyerism.

jlfintx

218 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:05:40am

#180 Satan Sidekick

You should send her this link and let her rethink her obviously wrong assumptions.

[Link: www.voicesofiraq.com...]

This is from the editors of MTV, who sent 150 digital cameras to Iraq and were completely surprised by the results. It is video directly from the Iraqi peoples own hands and says it all. On one clip an Iraqi boy is asked what he wants to be when he grows up and he says, "American."

jlfintx

219 D.C. Watson  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:06:23am

And Al Gore invented the Internet.

220 dr_dog  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:37:25am

Kronkite is nuts!
Obviously Karl Rove is Osama bin Laden! Notice how you never see both of them at the same time??

221 wiseoldfool  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 8:48:52am

Alzheimers is a terrible disease.

222 Jed  Tue, Nov 2, 2004 4:14:23am

The grand old man has lost his mind.


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