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Wed, Feb 2, 2005 at 1:41:44 pm PST

Iran remains openly defiant about their plans for nuclear weapons, even as European “diplomats” continue to dither and look the other way: Iran Says It Will Never Scrap Nuke Program.

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran will never scrap its nuclear program, and talks with Europeans are intended to protect the country’s nuclear achievements, not negotiate an end to them, an Iranian official said Wednesday.

The remarks by Ali Agha Mohammadi, spokesman of Iran’s powerful Supreme National Security Council, are the latest in a hardening of his country’s stance amid ongoing talks with European negotiators. They also reflect Tehran’s possible frustration at the lack of progress.

Note how Associated Press writer Ali Akbar Dareini injects a blatant piece of speculation about Iran’s “possible frustration,” as if Iran were honestly seeking to make “progress” in talks with the Europeans. The Iranian mullahs don’t use this rationalization, and they don’t need to—because Western media does it for them.

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1 noshariaincanada  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:43:04am

Iran won't laugh long.

2 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:43:07am

That's OK. He who laughs last laughs best.

3 tuffbeingright  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:30am

there will come the day when we put underwear on their faces too...

4 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:31am
5 Scipio  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:53am

No, there's no connection between this and Rummy's request to develop a bunker buster nuke.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ci d=1503&e=4&u=/afp/20050202/ts_afp/usweapon snuclear_050202062221

I just hope it's ready before FY07, because that will be too late.

6 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:53am

I thought it was "lack of progress" in developing nukes.

7 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:56am

Iran's people are aching for a change away from their nasty govt.

Let's make sure they get it.

8 Capt. Queeg  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:46:11am

The only thing Iran wants is nuclear weapons.

9 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:49:21am

Sending Osirak vibes their way...

10 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:50:24am

#8 Capt. Queeg

They're also interested in intercontinental ballistic missiles.

11 Melody_in_Houston  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:51:17am

Those bases in Iraq are about to come in handy.

12 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:51:21am

Dear Iran:

Your wish has been granted.

Love,

WWtW

P.S. You are stupid.

13 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:55:34am

OT

This news just in from Newsmax.com

Well, the United Nations is at it again -- and this time, they may actually succeed in imposing TAXES directly on the American people!


Law Of the Sea Treaty

This effects everyone of us.

14 csva  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:55:35am

Iran this is MOAB.
MOAB this is Iran.
Iran watch MOAB turn you military bases to dust!


Syria or Iran, that is the question?

15 Ann  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:56:12am
spokesman of Iran’s powerful Supreme National Security Council

Oh, please... powerful - in what fish pond?

16 mikeyslaw  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:56:30am

Dear Iran:
Yeah, what Who Watches the Watchman said!

17 PDM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:58:29am

Iraq to the West, Afghanistan to the East.
Look both ways before you cross the US Iran.

18 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:59:18am

if iran and north korea keep screwing around with president bush,
trying to hide, and filter this nuclear crap.

they had better start digging bomb shelters and supply with water, food, and camel feed.

because bush doesnt scare worth a damn,
and making them glow in the dark, sucking the paint off of their toyota trucks, and giving them orange afros would make his day.

19 BLUESTAR  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:59:48am

Time to bomb those Mullah-F*ckers!

20 T_IT_UP  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:00:28pm

...W could always scrap it for them...

21 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:01:03pm

#12 Who watches the watchmen?

Nice picture. Did I see an Israeli fighter bomber flying away in the distant?

22 Golem Akbar  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:01:49pm

If I were a leftist, I'd be so embarrassed, right now.

23 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:02:32pm
24 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:06:18pm

The LLL thinks Iran is just trying to get our attention or looking for a bargaining chip. Not so. They fully intend to develop their nuc program to our detriment. We had better wake up and do something about it or it will be too late.

25 Studsup  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:06:28pm

"Iran remains openly defiant about their plans for nuclear weapons, even as European “diplomats” continue to dither and look the other way:"

You say "dither", I would say "cooperate".

26 mikeyslaw  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:07:47pm

#23 Rayra
The Netherlands? Oh, yeah, the country that used to Dutch but is now a Muslim state. I remember it.

27 Crusader  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:08:26pm

"By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer"

Interesting.

28 Hari Seldon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:08:57pm

Irans laughing at those cute lil dhimmis...

here in the us we know better...but who knows..hopefully bush has it well prepared

29 Mike C.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:11:03pm

# 13 Blackhorse

Only if we're stupid enough to agree to such nonsense. And even then, it may not stand up in court. We have a pretty good record on the issue of "no taxation without representation" here.

30 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:11:19pm

#27 Crusader

Crusader, do you have a link to that story.

Thanks,
Blackhorse

31 stevej  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:11:22pm

pre-emptive conventional strike via stealth bombers- and drop an extra bomb in the backyard of every european embassy. Were still the biggest dog on the block.

32 Model4  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:11:35pm

#14 csva: Ack, another poster going on about MOABs. They are just big conventional bombs. Can't "turn a military base to dust" any more than a truck bomb vaporized all of Oklahoma City. Further, as of now they have to be delivered by slow propeller-driven cargo planes, easy pickings for decent anti-aircraft forces.

Not that they aren't useful, not that I'd want to be near one going off, and not that I wouldn't love for Syria and Iran to be on the receiving end of some serious firepower.

33 Rex  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:11:39pm

Someone will have to stop that nuke program better sooner than later. Iran with nukes is a threat not only to Israel, in the first place, but to Europe as well, and eventually the US. Who will be brave enough to put the Iranians back in their proper place?

34 psaturn  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:13:05pm

What do you expect from the Islamic Republic of Iran ?

35 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:13:23pm

Crusader (#27)

"By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer"

I just noticed that too. I wonder if it's a real name.

36 scott in east bay  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:13:23pm

Where's the Hebrew Hammer when you need him?

37 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:13:50pm

#29 Mike C

Thanks Mike. I agree with you 100%. Too many people underestimate the will of the American people.

38 psaturn  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:14:06pm

Hi Ploome Hineni !

How is your day today ?

39 Hari Seldon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:15:17pm
40 Mike C.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:15:24pm

# 23 Rayra

You know, I've worked with any number of Dutch people over the years (they're pretty common in the oil biz, what with Shell and all) and they never struck me as being as stupid as they obviously (at least collectively) are.

41 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:16:05pm

hey salvage,

on second thought,
an orange afro headed glowing in the dark islamsick would make an easy target.

42 Adrenalyn  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:16:09pm

I have an idea.


Why don't we demonstrate one of our nukes in the gulf area ?

Can't we did not warn them like the LLL wanted is to do with Japan in WWII.

43 Crusader  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:16:11pm

#30 Blackhorse:

I was quoting directly from the byline of the story that Charles links to.

44 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:16:20pm

For further writings by Ali Akbar Darieni see here.

45 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:17:58pm

#27 Crusader

Sorry, my bad. (I reread the article)

46 Norwegian kafir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:18:13pm

#40: An opinion poll recently revealed that 81% of the Dutch distrust Muslims and Islam. They understand the danger by now, but don't know how to respond to it. It will probably lead to open war in the end.

47 hepcat  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:18:29pm

And this one is a beaut!

More Iranian Laughing

So much for Sen. Joe Biden's audition as a future Secretary of State.
At least if you ask the Iranians.

...Finally, as the tense discussion appeared ready to, well, explode, Biden showed up with this wife Jill, who was dressed in what was described in press reports as "figure-hugging leather pants" and a tank top. Again, the Iranians, who no doubt ogled a bit, were insulted.

48 Model4  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:18:30pm

#24 theparson:

The LLL thinks Iran is just trying to get our attention or looking for a bargaining chip.

Nope. The LLL already wants our citizens and soldiers killed. The lefties see nukes in the hands of jihadis as a better way for that to come to pass. And they'll squeal with glee at what happens to Israel.

49 el presidente'  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:18:45pm

This kind of propaganda is expected by the Iranians, you have to look at the sequence of events:

GWB proclaims Iran as an evil regime

Iran says its working on nuclear weapons

GWB frees 25,,000,000 people

Iran says its working in nuclear weapons

GWB frees another 25,000,000 people

Iran says its working on nuclear weapons

There's a time to fold and a time to hold, do you feel lucky Iran ?


Well, do you?

50 Maine's Michael  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:20:37pm
Iran is Laughing at the West

Hooohoohahahahahaheeheehee . .haw . . .haw . . . yes, Ali, my brother, those americans are stu- *BOOOM*

51 Lazarus  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:21:08pm

I think the frustration Dareini is talking about is that Iran isn't getting the West to submit more rapidly.

52 Bob G.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:21:35pm

Iran will never scrap its nuclear program because they are frustrated at the lack of progress in preventing it from being scrapped.

Er, run that by me again...

53 mich-again  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:23:06pm

The Mullahs aren't just laughing at us from back home in Iran. Heck, their toadies in the USA are planning a big celebration in Bethesda Maryland for February 6th, a day that is hailed as "Death to America" day in the Islamic Republic. An Iranian dissident group has been trying to get Marriott hotels to cancel the reservations for their (very likely illegal) hate-fest, and is asking others to e-mail Marriott to ...ummm..express their displeasure.

But like C always says, be polite.

Read more here

54 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:23:29pm

Model 4

I am as angry with the left as anybody but, other than a few ultra left wing nutjobs, I don't believe they want harm to come to our military.
And I don't think that kind of rhetoric furthers our cause.

55 ajaxlikid  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:24:16pm

Meanwhile, Mohamed El Baradei is in Greenland, checking whether US allegations that there is ice there are funded...

56 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:24:47pm

#53 Mich -again

Since Bill O'Reilly lifts all his best material from LGF, maybe he'll give your scoop some air time.

57 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:25:03pm

#27 Crusader
#35 Zulubaby

I did a search on ALI AKBAR DAREINI. Dareini does exist and works for the AP

58 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:26:46pm

Blackhorse

see #44

59 Renna  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:30:44pm

#53 mich-again

I don't get the February 6th connection. The embassay was stormed on Nov 4, 1979. Released on Jan 20th, of course. Feb 6th is the Gipper's birthday, as I recall.


Was it the day the Ayatollah returned to Iran from...now where was that?

60 Blackhorse  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:31:24pm

#44 theparson

Parson, Thank you for the Link for ALI AKBAR DAREINI. The site you linked me to looks interesting as well. I've never heard of The Pelican File.

61 VerticalSwordsman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:31:46pm

The mullahs don't seem to realize that we have little to lose by an airstrike on their nuclear facilities. If the current regime were toppled, there's no chance it would be replaced by anything worse. There's no risk of civil war erupting. The "Arab Street" already hates us. We may choose to outsource the job to Israel. But really, what do we have to lose when faced with nuclear saber-rattling from noxious mullahs?

62 TotallySirius  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:31:51pm

#18 ibmkeyboard

I agree but that should read permanent orange afros.

Who Ya Gonna Call?

GWB!

63 Adamski  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:35:39pm

RE: #47

Nice move Biden, but at the same time I hope somebody was smart enough to piss in their soup.

On the topic, somebody's just going to have to end Iran's nuke program for them. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

64 Malleus Dei  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:36:18pm

Nuke Iran early and avoid the rush.

65 TotallySirius  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:38:54pm

" Iran Says It Will Never Scrap Nuke Program."

Yes they will,right after the US or Israel dismantles it in a less than gentle way.

66 alimostofi  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:39:00pm

I am sure EL B., and Ayatollah Strawberry will come to the moderate theocrats' rescue. They are in the "divide and rule" camp. They hope that the moderates in the Foreign Ministry will be pull off a compromise, and be the alternative "pragmatic force" in the next election.

67 Model4  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:43:10pm

#54 theparson: I'm not trying to make the claim that most directly and consciously want harm to come to our individual soldiers (though clearly a frightening number do, and those are only the ones we hear about). However, many of them wait with bated breath hoping and praying that our military will be defeated in Iraq and elsewhere, and how exactly is that supposed to come about, other than through harm coming to our troops?

I've reflected on the many, many "reports" and accounts that express sorrow that the "insurgents" weren't doing better, or that things were going well for our soldiers. Add to that the gloomy accounts of defeats suffered by the jihadis, and elation spurred by the suffering of our troops. "Humvee destroyed by IED, 4 Army soldiers killed. See, we were right! Bush sucks, and he's going down in this election!" Wouldn't you be on the side of someone you called a "freedom fighter?" And just who are these "freedom fighters," and whom are they fighting?

I'm not in the business of falsely accusing someone of wanting harm to befall our troops. But I'm not going to ignore it when their logic and rhetoric form straight lines to that very desire either.

68 Carolina Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:46:55pm

#21 Blackhorse

My first reaction exactly! All I could think of was "well, time of Israel to kick the tires and light the fires again!"

I'm sure the French will, once again, be pissed.

69 mich-again  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:48:47pm

59 renna

Why February 6th? Good question. Maybe they chose the day of the Super Bowl, the biggest celebration of American sports and capitalism. (especially this year with the Patriots playing the Eagles?)

(BTW, am I allowed to use the term "Super Bowl" without paying the NFL some kind of licensing fee?)

70 Studsup  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:49:57pm

Does Iran have a professional military? By that I mean, an organized, professional cadre of officers and soldiers dedicated to preserving Iran's sovereignty but not committed to Jihad or Mullah-inspired insanity?

71 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:50:15pm

Model 4

I think it's more of an unconsious dichotomy. While I don't think that most leftists consciously desire harm to come to our troops I can agree that they do consciously hope for our failure and or defeat in Iraq which would no doubt bring about many deaths. But, to them the destruction of American lives and the defeat of our military objective are mutually exclusive.

72 UglyAmerican  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:51:43pm
"Yes they will,right after the US or Israel dismantles it in a less than gentle way."

Don't Israelis do pretty much everything in a "gentile" way?

73 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:52:41pm

#70 Studsup

Yup. Complete with child minesweepers.

74 transferthem  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:54:20pm

The truth is that the eu hates Israel and Jews so much that it actually wants iran to go nuclear so that Israel has no advantage and cold be wiped out in 10 minutes by these islamofascist screwballs.

75 Suzanne K  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:54:55pm

There's an old saying... laugh at your own risk.

76 theparson  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:57:15pm

In regards to #53 Mich-Again's post I hope everyone will contact Marriot to express your displeasure to Irans Death to America Celebration being held at the Marriot hotel.

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:58:37pm
78 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:58:47pm

A related article a

Iran : The burden of The Man in The Chair


“No President of the United States--no Democrat, no Republican--will stand quietly while a radical, terrorist-sponsoring nation that, as a matter of policy, holds rallies where it exhorts its citizens to suicide bombings while chanting "Death to America!" acquires nuclear capability.

The duty of the man in the chair, whoever he is, is clear. And may God and the American people help him carry it out.”
79 EddieP  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:05:34pm

#52 BobG

"The mullahs frustrated over lack of progress in halting the program they will never give up. Nice line!"

Get the reporter back to camel caravan school.

The LLL wants diplomacy to settle this. The Euroweasels have been diplomacing the mullahs for 18 months and only getting the fickle finger. Now they are saying that Bush needs to get involved. Of course, we must first take "premptive action" off the table, and no use of force without UN approval. and the French get to review all of our war plans.

There ain't no way GWB is going to do any negotiating with his hands tied behind his back, so we can look forward to the LLL again being all over GWB for his failures!

80 evildoer  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:06:00pm

#47 -

the mullahs were just pissed because they all pitched tiny little pup tents under their bedsheets when Biden's wife walked in.

81 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:10:13pm

Did you noticed Biden was over an hour late and meanwhile the waiters tried to serve the Iranians wine? What a diplodisaster

82 EddieP  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:12:37pm

#70

Here's a link to a good analysis of Iran's military capability.

Iran Military

83 Tinker  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:21:25pm

Ladies and Gentlemen,

These guys are certifiable whackos, freakily virulent threats obvious to all except the Dhimmis. So we bomb them and pay now, or wait until they hand over the Bomb to killers who'll set it off in our back yard, and we'll pay big time later. We're gonna fight'em anyway, so let's do it now. If we hit'em now, the world will blame us. If they hit us, the world will say we deserved it because of "root causes". Screw'em all.

Launch the Stealth bombers NOW!

84 rod  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:26:36pm

i'm not sure why iran should give up on nukes or even have to consider doing so--they understand fully that outside of localized covert ops for intel gathering purposes, we can reasonably inflict them no harm.

we are overextended as it is.

Iran is the breaking point for US-Euro relations, and more importantly, it is the line in the sand for US-mideast relationships that are more covert than overt. Im talking about the backdoor intel sharing--prisoner transfer--that sort of thing.

The euros, strapped with welfare states and demographic profiles that will bring them to their knees within 10-15 years, need to be percieved in tehran as Iran's friend. they need the potential high-margin contracts that oil services and extraction bring.

we dont. But we need functioning diplomatic relations with the West; an Iran attack would end that in many places. State and CIA are telling that to POTUS as we talk. we have a lot to lose short-term with no assurance of success.

the cost of all this is a nuclear Iran.

Israel, a pariah state in the world's eyes, is the only hope because they nothing to lose.

85 LiveFreeOrDie  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:30:04pm

#61 VerticalSwordsman  2/2/2005 02:31PM PST
But really, what do we have to lose [by bombing] when faced with nuclear saber-rattling from noxious mullahs?

It depends on if the Iranians are actually nuts or not.

If they are not totally nuts (a rational player), may be they want to use their nukes as a deterent. If we attack, then they have reason to use them.

It they are totally nuts, then we need to take them out.

I personally don't know which is the case.

86 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:35:38pm

I OT OT LMAO Soldier Hostage may be Action Doll

GI JOE used for photograph

Doubts were also raised about the authenticity of a photograph posted on the Web site, which the militants claimed depicted the kidnapped soldier. A toy manufacturer said the figure in the photo resembled one of its military action figures, originally produced for sale at U.S. bases in Kuwait.

ACTIONFIGUREGATE its official

87 Cato the Elder  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:42:12pm

Umm, Ariana, where you been the last 24 hours? That's yesterday's talk of the town.

Still funny, though.

88 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:45:38pm

Cato,

I've been working some long hours and didn't see it posted anywhere

89 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:52:25pm

The Iranian government is definitely nuts. They have a large dissident population, and they know their days are numbered. The mullahs and their regime are some of the most evil people on earth (just ask Iranians).

I think they already have material for a bomb, and that they will make sure a lot of people die before they give up their program.

It would be nice if the Persians overthrew them.

90 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:53:26pm

Iranian mullahs #1 goal in life is to nuke Israel.

91 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:56:06pm

Tell me, how do the media manage to get shots like this if they aren't in bed with the terrorists?

Palestinian militants take part in training at the Balata refugee camp near the West Bank city of Nablus, February 2, 2005. Leaders of Palestinian Islamic militant factions are in Cairo for cease-fire talks with the Egyptians, days before Egypt is to host an Israeli-Palestinian summit, officials from the groups said in Gaza on Wednesday. Photo by Abed Omar Qusini/Reuters
92 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:01:11pm

#91 zulubaby

Well known that media are imbedded with Palis and "Insurgents" in Iraq.

There was a woman interviewed on the radio the other day (wish I remembered her name) who would not give up information about the insurgents, but supposedly supported our troops!

This individual should be tried for treason.

93 cybermonk  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:05:58pm

85 LiveFreeOrDie

Rafsanjani has already said that Iran will launch a nuke at Israel as soon as they have one and that they are not afraid of Israel retaliating, since there are "more Arabs than Jews."

94 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:09:26pm

#93 cybermonk

Cue bigel...

95 The Other Les  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:25:14pm

Mullahcrats eagaerly await martyrdom.

96 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:32:50pm

#93 cybermonk

Do you have a citation for the Rafsanjani quote? I'm in the middle of a debate with a moonbat who doesn't believe that there is any threat to Jews around the world.

97 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:58:06pm

#86 Ariana

LOL The GIJOE DIARIES...

98 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:58:06pm

#96

[Link: www.memri.de...]

99 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:59:21pm

Ariana

OT - Still Funny

100 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:59:50pm

Here is the relevant text:

In light of these disturbing events, it is imperative to recall the “Al-Quds Day”, December 14, 2001 sermon of former Iranian President Ali Akhbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. During this “pious” address, Rafsanjani, who was also deemed a “moderate” while President, argued that nuclear weapons could solve the “Israel problem”, because, as he observed, “…the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam” .

101 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:12:49pm

superninja (#92)

Well known that media are imbedded with Palis and "Insurgents" in Iraq.

Well known to us, yes, but not everyone. Most people think if it's printed on newspaper it's the absolute truth.

102 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:40:41pm

#101 zulubaby

That's why it's killing me I can't remember the name of the female reporter from the radio. 99% sure it was in a radio interview on the drive home.

Just can't remember which one! Mind like a steel trap, I tell ya...

103 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:55:56pm

superninja, oh they're all as bad as each other. You weren't listening to NPR, I hope!

104 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 4:00:22pm

{{Bubbles and Cato}} thanks for being nice

Drat, I miss a day and all the good stuff happens.

105 superninja  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:16:45pm

#103 zulubaby

I only listen to NPR to observe the Left floundering about for meaning, while they report that the world is ending because a Democrat isn't in the White House.

NPR and PBS should not get my tax dollars.


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