It always amuses the hell outta me. They go on and on about how US troops are pigs and babykillers, yet anytime a big, round number comes around, they suddenly pull out their "we support the troops" shirts and try to say that supporting the troops means abandoning Iraq to bring those troops home.

such artistic talent!

/not

#1 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It always amuses the hell outta me. They go on and on about how US troops are pigs and babykillers, yet anytime a big, round number comes around, they suddenly pull out their "we support the troops" shirts and try to say that supporting the troops means abandoning Iraq to bring those troops home.

Imagine that. The LLL full of hypocrites? Say it ain't so!

What a crappy cartoon. Not only is it portraying our troops as pigs, but wtf, it's not like the Iraqis use "decapitator missiles" or even make such things. Note also the poor artisanship and lack of color.

Follow the link. Here's a taste:

It is absolutely sensational to watch the outnumbered and poorly equipped Iraqi volunteers, without a central command or logistics supply lines, fight back with their thin bodies, after fourteen years of sanctions, the most powerful empire in the history of humankind.

Just so you know what they are all about.

I just don't have the time to dissect all the BS in that statement.

What I find sad is that this originated from MIT. Harvard, or USC, sure, but this crap form MIT?

Oh yes, also note that those guns are some kind of futuristic fantasy guns that don't resemble the M4 or M16 at all. Maybe the artist is trying to tell us that we are eventually going to be invaded by the Bulrathi, a pig-like race of sentient aliens whose official flag closely resembles that of ours, and that we are going to open up "Decapitator Missile" factories in Iraq to help defeat the other-worldly aliens.

I hate Commies. (A.K.A. Liberals)

America's destruction is their goal.

Does MIT know this is being run under their domain?

Looks like Israel gave us the Ray guns

Pigs!

How original!

Where does the Left come up with this EXTREMELY creative imagery?

When I click the "Thistle" link, I get a blank page. Going through Google, I still get a blank page. Anyone else?

I really am beginning to hate the left.

#5

MIT is Chomsky country. What else would you expect?

You have to fiddle with the link to get to the actual content of the issue. Corrected link here. It's the usual trite LLL pap, containing the typical rantings of the moonbat species found on northeastern college campuses.

Did any of you see the Frontline special a couple of years ago about the fedayeen Saddam troops? It was horrifying.

For their "graduation ceremonies," they would tear a live dog to pieces with their bare hands, the poor creature snapping and snarling and hopelessly trying to fight back against two dozen arab "men."

They had footage, and showed the first few seconds of one of these hideous rites. I have never been able to wash the image out of my mind.

I would cheerfully machine-gun these evil monsters. They're just unspeakable.

Is it possible these lunatics BELIEVE the crap they write?
If so, what does this say about MIT?
If not, what does it say about them?

NOW can I question their patriotism?

Welcome to The Thistle's Repression Issue

Well, that explains it then...

MIT has been going downhill for a helluva long time now. I had the chance and resources (took a long time for this old army sergeant to save that kind of money) to send my son there. Never considered it. MIT has been decending into the depth for at least the last 10 years. It's riding on it's reputation still but eventually that will run out also. There's other institutions out there now that are just as good, cheaper and don't have the frieght train load of PC/leftist crap that the east and west coast universities have.

This reminds me of the Ultra left crap that came out of the weatherman back in the late 60's & 70's. Soon the terror bombings will start.

#18 chewydog

Please don't read post # 15

d;^)

I know MIT is a tech school, but this is ridiculous.

remebering reagan

Golly gosh! How 'bout them zany college kids?

#6 bbcrackmonkey

a pig-like race of sentient aliens whose official flag closely resembles that of ours, and that we are going to open up "Decapitator Missile" factories in Iraq to help defeat the other-worldly aliens.

Looks like the Iraqi Insurgent throat-seeking Vorpal Supermissile! We're all doomed! DOOMED!

*snicker-snack*

The article linked is by Amer Jubran.

Who is Amer Jubran?

Amer Jubran is a 33-year-old permanent resident of the United States [not anymore. ed.] and holder of a "green card." A Palestinian, Amer Jubran has lived in this country for many years, and currently resides in Cumberland, Rhode Island.

Amer Jubran is an outspoken activist for human rights. He has focused particular attention on Palestinian human rights.

Amer Jubran is a founding member of the New England Committee to Defend Palestine (NECDP). He was a key organizer of other significant Palestinian-related events in Boston, including a rally and march on April 6, 2002 rally in downtown Boston which drew close to 2,000 people. He was also a speaker at the mass anti-war rally held in Washington, D.C. on April 20, 2001. He also appears frequently as a guest lecturer at area campuses, including MIT, Northeastern University, Worcester State College, and Emerson College.

That's right a violent criminal palestinian "human rights" activist who was arrested and deported:

He left the United States for Jordan on January 4, 2004.

The great danger I see in what is coming from the Left these days, is that it is the lead-up to home-grown terrorism. When Howard Deeen and others in authority vent the way they do, they give the Loony Left a sense of justification. It's only a matter of time, and some twisted group of Lefties will begin to take matters into their own hands. There rants also give great encouragement to Islamists in North America. I'm not so afraid of the fringe boogers like the ones who publish trash like the cartoon shown here, but I'm very concerned about people like Dean, Moore, and the mayor of London. We need to make sure that our rhetoric, never gets to the nasty level going around on the Left right now. LGF generally sets a good example of how to critisize, without inciting to dangerous thinking.

If you click the link under the pic titled

Hold Your Head High, You Are In Fallujah!

You get some guy named Amer Jubran.

That may explain something.

Please. oh please, can we now yank all Federal funding from the lice involved?

Speaking of chompski *SPIT*
On the new game show ,Distraction, a contestant claimed to be a follower of chompski.
He was so stupid, he got eliminated in the first round!
Fittingly, the host proclaimed that all contestants had an equal chance to correctly answer the questions!

Hey, maybe they'll soon be listed as a Google news source.

/after all, they DO have the word news in their self-description.

#12 chewydog

Haw! Blank page... perfect. A blank page is worth 1000 words, when it comes to describing the Left and LYING COMMIES.

#2 John Schneider
#4 bbcrackmonkey

Artistic talent ... Have y'all seen Shrillary's cartoons from her college paper days? Makes this guy look like Rembrandt. I am trying hard to recall where I saw them, but trust me, they're truly awful. The '08 campaing should bring them out.

#10 ploome hineni

Another from Euripides: Cleverness is not wisdom.

It's Chomsky!

Is that by Ted Rall? If so, his drawing is improving.

But of course, the person who drew that and the LLLers who agree with it support the troops. They want them brought home safe, so they can try them for war crimes and have them executed.

#22 Joe Schmo

Re: Their article "Remebering Reagan"

The author couldn't make it through the first sentence without the Freudian slip of typing Bush instead of Reagan.

I'm awed by intellect.

What's especially sad is someone's paying about 38k a year for their offspring to attend a place where the faculty/administration apparently supports such nonesense.

The big problem with these eleeet academics is they think they're doing us poor racist redneck parents a favor by allowing us to give them tons of money for BS indoctrinated kids.

But the times may be changing, I heard CU, as an example, has lost a noticeable number of enrollments. All I can say is parents should be a lot more picky on where their cash goes. The benefits of a school such as MIT, as far as name recognition, fade rather fast as the kids develope their own record and they'll probably have a better record if their heads aren't cluttered with crap from such prestigeouse universities.

Anti-Semitism?

Violence against police?

Sedition?

What on earth is going on here? How can a respected college justify this?

The whole world owes Fallujah a tribute.

Wrong, dirtbag.

The world owes our Armed Forces a tribute.

Beyond belief.

keep right on moving folks...no anti-americanism on college campuses today...move right along

He was also a speaker at the mass anti-war rally held in Washington, D.C. on April 20, 2001.

2001? We were at war then, but I don't think we knew it yet.

And what about that missile Made In Iraq? I thought Iraq didn't have any WMDs. They were harmless, kite-flying folk who never thought of doing harm to anyone in the US or anywhere else for that matter.

I despise the "people" responsible for this trash and their families and friends as well.

I'm having one of my angry days.

Folks -- don't get too alarmed by this. The Thistle has been punching out this type of garbage since I matriculated at MIT in 1989, and I'm sure it had published similar nonsense for years prior. Most kids there are too busy working out problem sets or getting hammered at parties (well, until the brothers at Fiji let one of their freshmen drink himself dead) to pay much attention to this rag. I honestly don't think I ever saw anyone reading The Thistle in the five years I was there. I didn't even realize Chomsky was a professor there until just before I left.

Egad! Anything that contains the phrase "student political affairs" I know is Moonbat City.

Behold, the beauty of the freshly indoctrinated!

America's New Discontents
by Victor Davis Hanson

How sad that our most educated and sophisticated cannot fathom that an Iraqi Kurd, an Afghan woman or a Lebanese shopkeeper simply wants the same freedom and opportunity for their children that so many of the most blessed — but bitter — in America either take for granted, feel guilty about or so cynically dismiss.

Steel Rain (#36),

After 12 years of being taught to hate America in public schools they must think this is top notch stuff.

SEATTLE ANTI-WAR SCHOOL SPECTACLE UPDATE

Upon entering the theater at 12:30 PM, approximately 15 minutes prior to the event, I was taken aback by what I witnessed. As I stood there in my Marine Corps Dress Blue uniform, there before me stood numerous kids running around in sloppily dressed and ill-fitted helmets and military fatigues with utter disrespect for the symbols and uniforms of the U.S. military. The walls were covered in camouflaged netting and the stage was covered with approximately twenty white, life-sized cut-out patterns in the shape of dead women and children, all of which were splattered in red-paint to depict human blood. Onstage, children were kneeling and weeping while dressed in ill-fitted Arabic headdress with white-faced masks similarly covered in red paint to depict human blood. At a podium, children were reading a monologue of how U.S. troops were killing civilians and shooting at women and children. Moreover, several grown adults were standing on stage in bright orange jump-suits, with black bags on and off their heads, some bound and tied, and some banging symbols and gongs in a crude depiction of what I believe were their efforts to depict victims of the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse episode.

During a TV interview , one of the resistance members of Fallujah said: “We will fight until our last bullet, our last drop of blood

My guess is the US military will honor your commitment.

Rocks make more sense than these people.

There actually used to be a student newspaper at MIT that was staunchly Objectivist. "Ergo, the Campus Voice of Reason". Yes, Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, all that. I actually worked there around the edges for a little while, it was fun especially when the dorm roommates found out (cleverly concealing my name in the "staff" credits).

At the same time MIT had visits from large bunches of leftover pothead hippies running other student newspapers.

I'll leave as an exercise for the reader to guess which papers got stolen from the free distribution points the most.

It felt really good to stand up to the Pre-PC-crap that blew in from the rest of Cambridge every week or so.

Having said that, this cartoon and essay takes me by surprise.

I especially liked the tribute to Fallujah. Hold your head up high? We completely massacred the fuck out of the terrorists using it as a base there. Maybe this was written before the city was pacified.

Why is this asshole still running around loose?

Another lad on the wrong side. The poor Palestinians were once again defamed and mistreated at the hands of Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism campaign. The 25,000 dollar checks did a grand for the "Palestinian Cause". The checks killed almost as many Palestinians through suicide bombings as Saddam Husseins ill guided Scud missiles.

Even the silliest of MIT alum should understand the massive step in recognizing the crimes committed against the Palestinian people. The master criminal himself finally croaked as a result of his destitute destruction; Yassir Arafat.

Will you people chill? The Thistle only prints sporadically, and is always on the verge of losing recognition as a student organization for lack of students. The writers there are often campus hanger on types, like Jubran. The drawings you see are by a Belgian (natch) grad student who has since moved to Ann Arbor (again, natch). While he was here he was a laughingstock.

#45

You know what's really funny? That there are people like that ass helmet Ira from yesterday who thinks more LLL circle jerks like this are the way to win hearts and minds in America.

All they have to do is send the "activists" out for a few more play dates, waving signs, burning stuff, throwing rocks, chanting nonsensical slogans and smelling bad, and that will magically get people to agree with them.

News flash: stunts like that don't make people like me, a recovering lefty, think you are smart and we should give you power. It makes us think you hate America but you just stay because you have it better here than any other place in the world.

#22

From your link:

* Reagan administration took Saddams Iraq of the list of nations with suspected ties to terrorism.

The hell? I thought that the Left believed that Saddam had no ties to any terrorist organizations.

So, in the same 'article,' the guy makes a Freudian slip & mentions Bush instead of Reagan . . . then indirectly justifies Bush in order to condemn Reagan.

I need to lie down. Leftist logic...

The debate during the Vietnam war was built around the question, “Can we win in Vietnam” rather than, “Why are we attacking a defenseless nation?”

Eh, what? We were defending South Vietnam from the Chinese and Soviet supplied NVA who attacked the South. Giap later admitted the VC were NVA or NV spies for the most part. Soviet pilots flew against American pilots in Vietnam. If there had been a plan to win the war (attack the North) they were hardly defenseless. The Soviet T-55 tanks they rode into Saigon in 1975, under MiG and Soviet AAG cover, makes that pretty clear.

Please tell me this idiot wasn't accepted into MIT? Please.

#6-

Exactly. It's one thing to be an idiot and entirely another to be an idiot during the commission of bad art. Picasso was a Communist but at least he could paint.

Anyway, the behavior of the far left has been outlandishly irresponsible on this issue. It's one matter to have opposed the invasion (I did) but once there, what good does abandoning the Iraqi people to the suffering, chaos and misery of failed state status do?

At last. I know that I am smarter than any of the attendants at MIT.

Why not borrow a few Caterpillars from Israel and treat these leftist poopushers to a re-run of the flat ugly dead bitch rachel corrie story. "OK guys, this is the last thing ugly dead flat bitch saw beofre the Zionist enemy drove over...her...OOPPS! Same story, same ending...will someone please wash down the tracks before Avi comes to collect the Cat?"

Well that was a view into the mind of your average Islamist hater I could have done without.

How unoriginal, ralph b's wizards:

[Link: www.exclaim.ca...]

For a supposed "technical" school they sure got a crappy web site.

#6 bbcrackmonkey

Shiek Yassin, the happily all blowed up "spiritual leader of Hamas" used to say that Hamas would continue fighting until "the flag of Islam flies over the entire universe"

Just taking Israel isn't enough, hell even the solar system isn't enough I guess. Anyway they're obviously thinking big and hoping that we'll find life on mars so that they can send Islamist astronauts with suicide belts.

Think of how much cheaper an Arab space program would be - the space ships wouldn't have to be able to come back!

And when they blow up on the launch pad, they could say "We meant to do that!" Heh, heh, heh. I'm having too much fun with this.

@59 Absoludicrious

OMG! It's true...a stopped clock is right twice each day!

Amer Jubran is an outspoken activist for human rights. He has focused particular attention on Palestinian human rights.

Is this not a classic oxymoron?

Speaking of morons, Al Capp, creator of Li'l Abner, years ago described a group of "campus dissidents" as Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.

I can't believe U.N.-Amer(ican) Jubran actually took credit for
Hold Your Head High, You Are In Fallujah! What drivel! He/She/It should hold their head in shame (otherwise, it could get blown off like the jihadist in Fallujah).
What Thistle calls an "alternative news collective”, I call a "collection of alternative lies". U.N.-Amer(ican) Jubran is nothing but a fake (i.e. Dan Rather). Like the MSM, U.N.-Amer(ican) Jubran's philosophy is based on false premises. One would think every MIT student would know that lies lead to false conclusions but apparently not. Hey U.N.-Amer(ican) Jubran; you really need to reexamine your life (while you still have the chance).
Leave it to the LLL propagandists to feel (because they obviously aren't the thinking type) their baseless ideas would irritate rational RRR minds. And Thistle, you can't call your U.N.-American lies "news" when its all dreamed up in your imaginative (albeit limited) heads. I know you would like for your lies to be believed by the American people but the MAJORITY of us know the truth. So dream on until you wake up and smell the burning jet fuel fool or die (whichever comes first).
/WHISTLES
Some Beach
some where
THISTLE is sooo unaware...

Sihlus

re "palestinian human rights"

You're so limited in your obsolete dead-white-euopean thinking. What about the all important right to send your kids to blow up Jews?

#42, #55

I'm a student at Caltech right now and what you've said on this issue is completely consistent with what's happening on this campus. There are a few nuts here and there who want to play political activist and submit editorials to the student newspaper, but virtually everyone is too busy working on homework and problem sets to care. Those who do become obsessed with political causes are generally laughingstocks and are rarely taken seriously. David Baltimore, the president of the school, is extremely liberal (a product of the 60s) and usually tries to find any excuse to bring up the war in Iraq or to invite liberal activists to campus, but even my Democrat friends ridicule him for this believing that it's inappropriate for Caltech's president to bring up politics when he's representing the institute (he's not very popular among the students). I've been there for two and a half years and I'm only aware of three separate protests in that entire time, two of which concerned campus politics. There was an Iraq war protest in early 2003, but there were just as many pro-war counter-protesters there as anti-war activists. Though the faculty are much more politically active than the students, I can count the number of times on my right hand that I've heard political comments made by a prof in all my time here. Most of our humanities classes concern subjects that have nothing to do with politics (Shakespeare, East Asian history, etc.) and a lot of our social science classes focus entirely on economic models and game theory.

I can't say I've ever been to MIT, but if it's anything like Caltech I wouldn't worry too much about the anti-americanism coming out of this fringe campus newspaper. Yeah, MIT employs Chomsky, but other than that they're probably pretty right wing as universities go.

#71 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

You're so limited in your ability to notice the subtle nuances. Observe, please, the bold-faced portions of the post.

Palestinian=human -- if that ain't an oxymoron, I'm a Dutchman.

/gentle irony, not scathing criticism.

#73 Sihlus

Fucking Mobies!

LGF isn't a hate site, go soak your head.

Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

LGF isn't a hate site, go soak your head.

Never said it was, washed my hair last night, what's your problem?

And what's a Mobie? If I was a little smarter, I'd think I'd been insulted.

Jeesh! Try to insert a bit o' humor here an' there, an' get beat on like a red-headed step-child.

(And no, dammit, I'm not picking on the Irish.)

Sihlus you went too far, that's what it means.

Saying that Palestinians aren't human isn't an acceptable joke, and calling you a Mobie is LGF for accusing you of being a plant, being someone who came here to post stuff that makes LGF look bad so that you can slander Charles.

#76 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

Hmm. Seemed pretty mild to me, considering some of the other comments I've seen here, but if you say so, I stand corrected. Sorry.

#77
well I'm not always here to play nanny ^_^

Shoot, boy, I haven't needed a nanny for better'n 60 years. I did, however, grow up in the years before PC, and tend to shoot from the lip from time to time. So cut the old fart some slack. Consider him damnear senile and let it go.

But you call me a mobie again, and I'll take a razor strop to your butt.

8^)

Ok, sorry.

Sumimasen as we say in my Japanse class.

No huhu.

It's late. Time to put the battered body between the sheets.

As we said in my GI-Spanish class, Tasty Banana.

I don't know. Maybe we should have broke out a bottle of sunshine for Fallujah.

Yes, that would show those civilians a thing or two about about "precision" strikes, wouldn't it? I mean, seeing as though most of the insurgents had left long before our "strike".

A little more fanfare next time, maybe?

Many insurgents apparently fled Fallujah

Count me as another MIT alumni who has to defend his Alma Mater from getting a bad rap.

MIT has a ROTC program and you see those guys walking around campus in their uniforms (Navy/Marines had the coolest, Air Force the shabbiest) all the time. While Harvard got rid of its ROTC program there are some poor souls there who actually have ROTC scholarships. Where do they take their military credit classes? at MIT.

Interestingly enough..

Mr Gillian, an ex-BBC reporter very opposed to the war, went to Falluja a few weeks before the big fight.

He said that most of the fighters came from Bhagdad and elsewhere and were despised by the locals.

All the loals he spoke to didn't want to fight and blamed outsiders for bringing war to their city. They were refered to as fanatics.

It was an interesting article, one which got little cover in the MSM.

I've learned to steer clear of any publication claiming to be an "alternative news source", just as I've learned to distrust any organisation with "peace and justice" in its name.

THOSE. PEOPLE. HATE. THE. USA. PERIOD.

87 bigel

MA and VT are such hopelessly left-wing hellholes (and no. Govenor Romney does not change that), maybe we should exchange them with Canada -- we'll take Alberta.

Or more apropos, let’s award these bastions of moonbattery to the People’s Rep. of China in exchange for their claims on Taiwan.

#58

No, you don't understand, the NV and the VietCong were just peacefully flying kites and making flower necklaces when the evil Americans attacked them for NO REASON!

As the wife of a soldier due to deploy (again) in November, this saddens & angers me. My husband is a dear man & very intelligent...to see him (& all soldiers) portrayed like that is shameful.

The artist obviously worked so hard on the cross-hatching ... I think he must be a leftist Napoleon Dynamite.

Support our troops, indeed! This is the kind of savage Kerry, Dean, and their ilk support, admire, and give aid and comfort to.

"The whole world owes Fallujah a tribute."

Right on! A tribute for bringing together the dregs of residual thug clans in Iraq, combined with the BEST Syrian and Kuwaiti and Afghan and Saudi jihadis and mujahedeen, so the United States could send AT LEAST 1,400 of them hardcore bullies and cowards to their just reward AND for letting the US Troops confiscate and destroy over 200 TONS of death-dealing materiel!

Lets do the Fallujah Backstep again, puh-leeeze?

What law enforcement agency is responsible for investigating treason and providing aid and comfort to the enemy? The FBI? Whoever it is should be tipped off on this Amer Jubran piece of pig shit. A green card holder inciting this shit. Send him back to muck around in the filth of the west bank. Let him experience first hand the fact that he has a greater chance of being killed by one of his holy suicide bombers for the greater glory of allah or without trial for being a collaborater than he does by IDF forces.

The whole "evil vicious malicious dirty filthy murdering baby-killing imperialist warmongering child-starving militaristic Nazi AmeriKKKan pigs" line of tripe reminds me of a letter some Vietnam vet sent to Rush once. In it he recounted returning by airliner from Vietnam, getting pelted by rotten fruit and human waste by some of our long-haired, dope-smoking, maggot-infested friends on the left, and then sitting through another cross-country flight to his home town (in his garbage-soiled uniform).

He said on that second flight he sat next to two giggly (and apparently very high on something) college girls who kept asking him "how many kids he'd killed." The vet wrote that "they never knew how close they were to being to first two."

What would we do without leftist peacemongers?

The resistance in Fallujah is a lesson to all who choose to resist a life of oppression.

oh go move to cuba, you F*ing leftist morally bankrupt historically illiterate stooge.

How is it any different from this cartoon?

And to think soldiers laid down their lives so this wet behind the ears college punk could spew out this kind of hateful writing. And our justice system will do nothing about it as it falls under freedom of speech. I doubt the writer/cartoonist even gave it a thought that this freedom was bought with precious blood of US service men and women.

MIT owes all US soldiers a written apology.

Explain to me again how the US plans to survive long term? It is one thing to have to contend with external threats, another to allow your crucual institutions to become heavily infiltrated by flat-out domestic enemies.

Whatever happend to that notion of the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights not being a "suicide pact".

This is much worse than anything I've heard of in a Canadian university. Nobody here would tolerate--for a secind--a prof who called for the death and defeat of Canadian troops.

FALLUJAH?

OH yeah- that town where we killed like 10000 "resistance fighters"?

And totally destroyed all of their hideouts? And took all of their ammo and weapons? And ran their families out of town like a bunch of hogs?

You hold your heads "high" after a total asskicking like that?

What a bunch of fucking losers! Enjoy your "virgins" you dead jihadis. It wont be much fun missing most of your limbs.

Pro-Bush Canuck, as others have pointed out we have seen far worse from our crazy left. Ditto from the crazy right.

The good thing is that nowadays the crap moonbats spout is permanently archived on the Internet. Since most employers do background checks nowadays, it will be interesting to see what happens when the the craziest of the moonbats finally have to move out into the real world and get a grown-up job. It won't be easy for them buying a house on a Starbucks or Barnes & Noble paycheck.

The whole world owes Fallujah a tribute. Through the sacrifice of Iraqi fighters, the entire world has been shown the bloodsucking nature of US empire. The resistance in Fallujah is a lesson to all who choose to resist a life of oppression.

Send 'em all to Fallujah so they can pay tribute in person, with their infidel heads.

CNN has video this morning captured by the platoon that was protecting a convoy that came under fire by fifty insurgents. As the FEMALE Sargent explained on camera, we killed twenty-five of them and captured the film. None of our people were killed; there were only a few injuries. The video shows the intensity that a convoy comes under when it's attacked by these insurgents.

From the article -

The whole world owes Fallujah a tribute. Through the sacrifice of Iraqi fighters, the entire world has been shown the bloodsucking nature of US empire.

However Strangelovian this guy is, he has got a point, although just the other way round. Since the Islamic terrorists lack any positive goal of any kind, at some point the only thing that can provide their racket with collective purpose and prevent it from breaking up is the ritual of human sacrifice. And such as in all times, it aren't just ill-fated individuals who are ritually slaughtered, it includes the whole memory and history they stand for which is to be erased and and replaced with the frightening details of the sacrifice ritual.

Uncle Sam knows what kind of losses he is suffering.

A notable difference of Islamic terrorism to the Nazi camps however is the lack of fixed working hours; the latter were a commonality with the World Trade Center, as Ward Churchill noted correctly, missing that Adolf Eichmann living today would be as self-employed as the Fallujah terrorists and their apologists.

Interestingly, there's a glimpse of honesty in Amer Jubran's article. In a list of battles in which a superior force retook a city from an enemy who was crushed in the process, when it comes to the Nazi era his precedent is the Soviet reconquest of Stalingrad from the Wehrmacht. Although somehow unconsciously, this death cultists seems to remember that just in the same way as the battle of Fallujah was for the terrorists and their apologists, the battle of Stalingrad had been the trigger event for Joseph Goebbels to fully come out about his intention of total war until Germany's last drop of blood.

#102 LouMinatti

I agree that you may have seen far worse than the "crazy left". However, much of the American academy today is aparently infected with this disease.

It didn't take all that much to push Germany over the edge in the 1930s -- it all started with a handful of "far-left" brownshirts.

No, I'm not comparing the US to Germany. I am concerned that a superpower on our border seems to have boundless tolerance for domestic enemies. Canada has been twisted beyond recognition in the course of a generation after we allowed the "progressives" to get the upper hand. Thankfully that has not happned in the US.

Yet.

The last election could have gone the other way. Close to 1/2 your population want people like Kerry, Sen. Kennedy, et al in power.

I can't help it. It's scary.

The bizarre thing is that this incredibly hostile stuff is perfectly OK in the US once you are inside the borders.

Yet the homeland security folks recently detained, strip-searched and ejected a Canadian traveling to New York because the border agent refused to believe him when he claimed "blogger" as his job description. The guy is an anglo Canadian business blogger who is emphatically no threat to anyone whatsoever. He was going to NYC to meet fellow pro-capitalist US bloggers.

Don't get me wrong. The US authorities absolutely should stop and reject Canadians who are even faintly associated with Islamism, and I would urge you to permanently bar leftist fruitcakes like Jaggi Singh as well.

However I have to wonder at priorities when a business blogger is perceived as a threat while the author of the article behind this appalling cartoon is in a position to influence what are supposed to be your best and brightest students.

Yes, I know that free speech is the best and probably only remedy to bad speech. Perhaps I am getting too worked up. But how come in a nation with no shortage of guns nobody ever, it seems, just loses it and plugs one of these guys?

MIT: Come for the education, stay for the terrorism!

#108 andthenblammo!
And the card counting!

CharlotteOK

May I personally thank your husband and your self for your service to our fine country.

I was an army brat for 14 years and am well aware that the family serves too.

#27 Fuzzy logic -- "The great danger I see in what is coming from the Left these days, is that it is the lead-up to home-grown terrorism. When Howard Deeen and others in authority vent the way they do, they give the Loony Left a sense of justification."

Absolutely. Dean's remarks are intentional and they have been repeated. It would be too easy to dismiss it all as a "yeaaarrrgh" rant. Furthermore, everyone in his Party is condoning it or supporting it. He is trying to demonize all opposition to the Democratic party. He "hates" Republicans. Republicans are the "evil", Democrats are the "good". Now Republicans are "braindead" (i.e. meaning, not worthy of having continued existence). Corzine compares Cheney to Saddam. Byrd compares Republicans to Hitler. Gore refers to individual internet bloggers as "Brownshirts". Dean and the Democrat Party leadership are doing what any would-be murdering tyrants would do, de-humanizing the enemy as a pretext to ruining them and even killing them. TheDems are even intentionally drumming out reasonable voices within their party like Senator Lieberman.

The Democrats have virtually declared civil war on America. They are opening the Jihadi front here at home, first they are leaders in the Jihad propaganda offensive. I expect the "Weathermen" style violence you speak of, fostered by the Democrat Party leadership, the highest levels of academia and the mainstream media to commence in earnest in the not to distant future, probably within a year. The skirmishing has already begun. The slashed tires in Wisconsin, the multiple breakins and drive-by shootings or GOP offices, the physical violence directed at GOP supporters, including children, during the campaign by Democrat supporting Union thugs.

#107 Pro-Bush Canuck -

But how come in a nation with no shortage of guns nobody ever, it seems, just loses it and plugs one of these guys?

This has just happened, although with the gun in the wrong hands:

The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party, on whose messageboard Jeff Weise posted one year before shooting people at his Minnesota high school, today refused to wring hands over a "tragedy," instead pointing out that such events are to be expected when thinking people are crammed into an unthinking, irrational modern society. According to the LNSG, the school shooting itself is not our failure; society is our failure, and the school shooting is a symptom.

"We knew [Weise] briefly through 34 posts he made on the forum," said LNSGP forum administrator Atem. "He expressed himself well and was clearly highly intelligent and contemplative, especially for one so young." Weise participated in the forum in part because, unlike "white nationalist" or "white power" movements, the LNSG embraces all races as part of its vision of world nationalism [no surprise - in advocating segregation, Nazism meets Green multiculturalism, ed.]. His statements on the site reflected a frustration with the populist politics and materialistic arrogance of modern society.

I just found my quote of the day in one of his postings:

If you want to start an "Anti-German Nationalist" movement, start it in Germany, and we'll see how far you get. - Jeff Weise

LOL - further than you in any case.

Iraq Says 80 Rebels Killed in Clash

By QASIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A raid by U.S. and Iraqi forces on a suspected rebel training camp left 80 militants dead, the single biggest one-day death toll for rebels in months and the latest in a series of blows to the country's insurgency, Iraqi officials said Wednesday.

As an MIT Alum, I would just like to state for the record that NOBODY at MIT takes the Thistle seriously, or even bothers to read the thing, other than the Thistle editors themselves. We're engineers - we spend too much time dealing with cold, hard facts to be taken in by this kind of BS.

OT: Indonesia WILL NOT BAN Jemaah Islamiyah (Laksamana)

A presidential spokesman has denied claims by a senior security official that Indonesia is planning to outlaw regional terrorism network Jemaah Islamiyah.

Among the terror attacks blamed on Jemaah Islamiyah are the October 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed 202 people, the August 2003 blast at Jakarta’s JW Marriott Hotel that killed 12 people, and the September 2004 bombing outside the Australian Embassy that killed 11 people.

can you draw Tippy?

obviously not...

#114 doubledip:

More good news from Iraq which I posted on another thread but I'll post it here in response to your. They must have had a sale on terrorists in Iraq yesterday.

CNN is showing footage captured from 25 dead terrorists ("insurgents" ...whatever) shows their attack on a US convoy of supplies coming into Iraq. The military guard came in fast along the right-hand side of the convoy and took in the insurgents (approx. 100 or so). They killed 25 and the girl Sgt. said that the film shows exactly how hot it gets when these insurgents fire in a gang on a convoy.

Our side had no fatalities and few injuries. I LUVED it that the female Sgt. was describing the battle. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Good for our side!

#26 Geepers

From the link:

The arrest of Amer Jubran is an attack not only upon Amer Jubran himself, but also a political attack on the New England Committee to Defend Palestine, on the Palestinian people, on people of Arab descent throughout the United States, and on everyone who supports justice for Palestine.

Could they cast a broader net? Does this guy hold a "Palestinian" passport? Why did he go to Jordan instead of "Palestine?"

“an alternative news collective”

Doesn't matter what you call it moonbats, guano is guano.

This must be a Google News Source!?!

Looking at the [f]art again, it became clear what an inaccurate depicition of the US troops it is. There is no sign of a skewered baby or vat of kittens being boiled in oil.

#26 Geepers 3/22/2005 08:56PM PST

So Amer Jubran spoke at a Washington anti-war rally on April 20, 2001 (Hitler's birthday, marijuana..., second anniversary of the Columbine massacre). What war were they protesting? We certainly were not at war in April 2001 - as far as we knew.

More evidence for what Professor Reynolds of many of the "peace" protestors since then: They aren't anti-war, they're just on the other side.

Related:

Do you recall the 6th grade class in Brooklyn that wrote anti-soldier anti-war letters to a soldier stationed overseas? The principal apologized, teacher was disciplined, etc. They're seething about it now on the NYC IMC.

The IMC story header says

Upon reading the letters, the soldier who is stationed in Kuwait, called his father, who said he was "very upset."

Scroll down a bit and the actual story says

After Pfc. Rob Jacobs received the letters in South Korea from 11- and 12-year-olds in early January, he called his father. “He was very upset,” said Rob Jacobs Sr. of Middletown, N.J.

Kuwait, Korea, it's all the same if you didn't pass 6th grade geography. Fuckleberries.

My favorite quote is from the poster who calls himself "Tough Love":

Lets just say, there is no room for pleasantries.
The imperialist armies must leave Iraq, etc. now!
Their blood, as well as the blood of those they murder, is on the hands and heads of the ruling class.

Right on, man, I identify with your class rage.

Thank you for posting this Charles. People need to know what goes on at our universities. It is a disgrace.

OT: Indonesia Military Can Work With US, Now that they've Spoken with PATRICK LEAHY! (Jakarta Post)

"They, including Senators Patrick J. Leahy and Russel Feingold who are the most critical (of the military), now understand the problems faced by the TNI," he said.

Who Watches the Watchmen? (#119),

Could they cast a broader net?

I think he wanted to just say "all infidel scum".

Bil Jefferson (#123),

More evidence for what Professor Reynolds of many of the "peace" protestors since then: They aren't anti-war, they're just on the other side.

Yup. Plain and simple.

I hope the fucking shithead who drew that cartoon, and idiot savant Amer Jubran made their way to the terrorist training camp that got blown to shits in Iraq today. They deserve it for supporting the vilest cock-sucking scum the world has ever expunged from it's anus.

Jubran in particualar must have wept as those "brave" terrorists died like flies in Fallujah while high on meth-amphetamine to bump up the courage levels. The only good those terrorists ever amounted to was to become food for the hungry dogs and cats that roamed the streets during the Fallujah battle.

In the end, it turns out the Americans knew their enemy VERY well. There were many courageous Iraqi's in Fallujah that day, and all of them were fighting alongside the Americans. Amer Jubran is just too fucking retarded to see it.

#10 Euripides also said that

Who dares not speak his free thoughts is a slave.

I love the smell of charred, bullet ridden, profusely bleeding and suffering jihadi in the morning.

Smells like...victory!

#123 Bill Jefferson -

So Amer Jubran spoke at a Washington anti-war rally on April 20, 2001 (Hitler's birthday, marijuana..., second anniversary of the Columbine massacre). What war were they protesting? We certainly were not at war in April 2001 - as far as we knew.

Israel - Yasser Arafat declared war against Israel on October 28, 2000.

BTW, the rockband whose name was on the T-shirt of the Columbine killer (and which has chosen this name to mimic that of an US airbase in Germany) released a music video last year which is maybe the best material to understand the nature of the multiculturally upgraded Nazism: Rammstein: Amerika

Shut the windows before clicking the link.

#129 Alan111 - That is why the source of this vile hatred describes itself as a "collective", as Charles highlighted in his posting - one must be a slave to their groupthink to speak there.

"We hold our heads high in the sky, because we are in Al-Fallujah."

Not anymore you're not.

A bit of data on Jubran comings and goings is here:
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Notice main points:
a) came on student visa
b) fake marriage and immediate divorce after securing Green card
c) agreeing to leave USA and staying

I realize, one must be totally insane to question any policies of the World Democratizer and Border Opener the Great President Bush. But still, isn't Bush Invite Whole World non-Amnesty will results in thousands of Jubran clones coming in to "work hard" and "upheld family values"?

Again, I realize that only a very tiny portion of RoP members has propensity to explode in Pizza parlors, but would not a presence of, say, 20 millions of RoPeaceniks around Michigan cause Sharia in there?

I haven't read the entire thread, but this post reminds me of a friend's remark about the unsaid phrases at "anti-war' rallies.

One in particular...

Said: "Bring our troops home!"
Unsaid: "So we can spit on them in person!"

You have to be pretty far left to be considered far left in Cambridge. That cartoon shows exactly how far you have to go.

"MIT"? What if any is this loon's affiliation with MIT?

See, here we go again with the moonbats' obsession with "bombing". Always whining that we're "bombing" someone.

Do they even know what the hell that means? Obviously not. We drop a JDAM and destroy one house full of hunkered-down terrorists, and in their mind they see squadrons of B-52's carpet bombing Fallujah like it was WW2 or something.

You just can't get through to these people.

The only soldiers Donkeycrats/leftists are happy to see are dead American ones.

Period.

The cartoon is a demonstration of that mentality.

I say it's time for Operation Cantabridgean Freedom.

Have all 130,000+ soldiers make a pit stop, occupy Cambridge, and you'll see how quick these anti-American quislings will say, uh, gulp...sh*t, when we wanted the troops home, we didn't necessarily mean in our apartments, on our subway system, walking a pace behind us so if we spit on them, they'll punch out all 32 of our teeth for free...

"Peace" - the Angry Left's anti-America marketing gimmick...

Very strange how one often finds Jewish and Indians, two groups whp have plenty reason to hate Moslem terrorists, taking their side!

For anyone who doesn't know what kind of animals people like Jubar and his supporters support:

Aug. 8, 2002
Anatomy of an execution
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

It is just before 10 a.m. and the first Palestinian Authority ministers are beginning to arrive at Chairman Yasser Arafat's Ramallah compound for an emergency cabinet meeting.

The IDF tanks, bulldozers, and armored personnel carriers, which have been inside the compound for the past few weeks, pulled back a few hundred meters to allow the meeting to take place.

The assembled journalists are told by some PA officials that the cabinet meeting is expected to last a few hours. Some cameramen find shelter from the sun in the shade of a nearby building. Others, including myself, decide to take a look around the area. We walk a few meters south of Arafat's office and run into a group of young men, some armed with pistols and assault rifles, sitting and chatting under a tree.

Behind them is a small building surrounded with barbed wire. On top of the gate is a sign:
"Ramallah Correctional Center." Suddenly a tall, dark man, flanked by two tough-looking bodyguards, emerges from a car and makes his way toward the group sitting outside. This is Zuhair Manasreh, the former governor of Jenin, who was appointed last month as head of the PA Preventive Security Service.

Manasreh gives a brief interview to a TV correspondent. As he is talking, two plainclothes policemen emerge from the prison. One is "embracing" a young, bearded man whose face is badly swollen.

He looks me straight in the eye, as if he is trying to tell me something. Although he is not handcuffed, he looks like a suspect on his way to interrogation.

In my heart I feel something is wrong. It must have been the strange look in his eyes, a look that will haunt me for many years. I feel as if this young man is begging for help. I decide to follow him and see where he is being taken. The two men take him to the back of a building north of Arafat's office.

What happened next is hard to describe. The man was blindfolded and made to stand against a wall. Three policemen, standing about three meters away, sprayed him with bullets from their rifles. He was hit in the head and chest and fell to the ground.

One of the policemen then walked up to him and fired one more shot into his head. "Take him away," came the order from another police officer.

I couldn't believe my eyes. The executioners did not notice that I was watching. When the rest of the journalists heard the shots, they rushed to see what was happening. Nervous policemen charged at the reporters and ordered them to leave the area.

I asked a police officer what happened and he replied, "A criminal has been executed. What's the big deal?"

"What did he do?" I asked another police officer who was trying to block cameras with his hand.
"He murdered two elderly women and raped his grandmother," he answered.

"Was he ever tried?"

"I don't know, but the president this morning approved the execution."

An ambulance that had been waiting nearby took the body away before anyone else had a chance to see it. As it was leaving, ministers continued to arrive. I asked three of them if they had heard about the execution which just took place a few meters away, and all replied that they had no idea what I was talking about.

A few hours later the PA confirmed that the execution did take place, identifying the victim as Bashir Attari. Palestinians described him as mentally retarded.

Everything we consider radical leftist is "normal" in Cambridge. To go left of "normal" in Cambridge you have to adopt the worst kind of 1930's era caricatures of fat capitalist pigs getting decapitated. "Smash the corporate state" etc."

what a boar.