This cancer always seems come from the universities, doesn't it?

"Israel is an apartheid, colonial settler state. I do not believe apartheid, colonial settler states have a right to exist."

But murderous, fascist, corrupt tyranies are no problemo.

The university said the show will go on, despite 230 letters of protest. As a state school, Rutgers bestows public funding to Solidarity, said a spokeswoman.

The university bestows funds to these people? How the hell does that work? And why?

"...and the organizers are explicitly calling for an end to the State of Israel..."

Good! Let's have it right out in the open in front of God and everyone; and let's have the cameras and recorders record EVERY WORD! Then we'll know FOR CERTAIN what their evil designs are and there will be NO DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MINDS what these evil devil Palestinians and their fellow travellers the ISM are all about.

I say let them go ahead and hold this meeting and document it THOROUGHLY!

Then use every bloody word and syllable to show the world EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE!

"The event, which organizers expect to draw at least 500 Israel foes from the world over, ..."

Um, I believe that's called a target-rich environment.

This is absolutely sickening and appalling. Why are state funds being used for this vile filth? Rutgers has disgraced itself. The university's willingness to host such a conference indicates a deep sickness and malevolence. How can we stop this obscenity?

"Israel is an apartheid, colonial settler state. I do not believe apartheid, colonial settler states have a right to exist."

The spewer of this quote is "Kate, a 23-year old Rutgers law student".

No wonder our judicial system is going down the tubes - this is the quality of intellect possessed by the average law student! As an aside, I am taking the LSAT again, after a long sabbatical, and am not looking forward to attending class with twenty-something know-it-alls like Kate. Then again, I might enjoy mixing it up with the likes of her!

This Kates woman claims to come from a Zionist household. I heard her speak at the Boston pro-Israel rally. She's obviously a nut. I wonder who paying for law school her Pali friends or her Zionist parents. Just what we need another Jewish lawyer to work on behalf of the terrorists. As for the conference itself, I'm sure the taxpayers of NJ are glad to suppport this as well as their poet laureate, Amiri Baraka.

When Kates graduates she can go work for Stanley Cohen.

Charlotte Kates displays that unfortunate combination of arrogance and militant ignorance that is all too common on College campuses. I'll bet she has a poster of Saint Rachel Corrie
on her dorm-room wall next to Che Guevarra and Fidel, perhaps the same photo Charles finds so compelling for different reasons...

Rutgers calls itself "the State University of New Jersey"

Rutgers President Richard L. McCormick: president@rutgers.edu

New Jersey Governor James E. McGreevey: [Link: www.nj.gov...]

or

PO Box 001
Trenton, NJ 08625
609-292-6000

should you have an opinion to express to YOUR employees (as all public employees are)

"Palestinian resistance in all its forms has been a very powerful tool of justice," said Kates, 23, a Rutgers law student. "All forms, from armed struggle to mass protest."

Yes, I believe killing women and children to make a political statement equals justice. Yes, I am a hair-brained twit that has searched for acceptance from any source. I found that when I spout idiotic statements here on campus, I get a lot of attention and support from hordes of fellow brainless compatriots.

Concordia. anyone?

JG

#4 Elizabeth

Good! Let's have it right out in the open in front of God and everyone; and let's have the cameras and recorders record EVERY WORD!

You got it absolutely correct.

Muchas gracias, Carlito!

This particularly pisses me off, because I was raised in New Jersey and happen to be a graduate of Rutgers University School of Law myself. I wrote a strong letter to Rutgers President McCormick about this. (president@rutgers.edu)

I urge all LGF'ers to do the same, especially those who live in New Jersey (and/or are Rutgers alumni) and whose tax dollars are going to fund this farago of antisemitism. Alums should threaten to discontinue all financial contributions to the school.

I would also encourage all Jersey residents to write to the Governor, state legislators and Rutgers trustees about this.

Hate speech is not protected speech. Speech inciting violence is not protected speech.

this Kates creature was also a Scientologist for a stint - disillusioned with that, she went on to trash it up and down. She was (is?) also a Communist. i couldn't care less about Scientology or Communism, but her involvement with both suggests somebody desperately looking for belonging or a cause to graft herself onto. the latest in her path of destruction is anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, pro-terrorist whinings. in a couple of years she'll move on to the next cause...

So I'm looking at the web site for the 2nd conference ([Link: www.divestmentconference.com...] Amongst the speakers were Sami Al-Arian, Hussein Ibish, and Adam Shapiro. Quite a crew. Looking at the list of sponsors I see the usual suspects (American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, American Muslims Council) and a bunch of others and a few especially telling ones: Socialist Viewpoint Magazine and Vieques Libre (amongst the items in their Ultimatum is "We reaffirm the commitment of the people of Vieques and of all Puerto Ricans to support the right of our fishermen and fisherwomen to defend our sea resources.") ("Fisherwomen"? How about "fisherpersons"?) They're a bunch of dangerous, left-wing nutjobs united only by their hatred of America and Israel.

An interesting aside - the main Rutgers campus is in New Brunswick, right across the river from Highland Park, NJ - a very, very Jewish town. I couldn't tell from the article if the conference is to be hosted there or in Newark... anyone know?

And yes, Rutgers is the state university of NJ. It's quite well-regarded academically.

Is this the same Charlotte Kates?

As a state school, Rutgers bestows public funding to Solidarity, said a spokeswoman.

The answer, then, is to cut the funding Rutgers gets from the state and federal governments. Completely.

Oceanguy: That's a Scientology-run site, so take what it says with a block of salt. Hell, an entire salt mine.

As for the conference itself, I'm sure the taxpayers of NJ are glad to suppport this as well as their poet laureate, Amiri Baraka.

As a drop of good news in all this, Amira Baraka is no longer Poet Laureate of New Jersey. Not because he was fired or resigned, which he refused to do, but because the NJ state assembly voted to eliminate the position so they could finally be rid of the creep. It's good they canned him, but a bit of a sham that they had to eliminate they whole position to do so.

Whooo blew up the Poet Laureate?

You know whooo!

Drat... I have to say I was hoping to get a hat tip for e-mailing a protest letter about this to Charles the other day. Oh well...

What words are left? This goes right along with having Amiri Baraka as their poet laureate - at least NJ had the brains to get rid of him; I wonder if this will provoke half of the outrage that did. After all, Baraka was saying Jews were involved in 9/11, but Rutgers is only sponsoring a festival of Jew-hatred. One has to wonder if Rutgers would also help fund a visit by the KKK or some other crazy nutters.

"Palestinian resistance in all its forms has been a very powerful tool of justice,"

This Kates chowderhead is indirectly advocating a future America where "justice" can also be achieved via C-4. No trials, no juries, no evidence, no laws, no due proccess….won’t really need attorneys like Kates either, will we. In that case, I know a brush clearing operation in Gaza that needs her employment as a weed.

"Palestinian resistance in all its forms has been a very powerful tool of justice," said Kates, 23, a Rutgers law student. "All forms, from armed struggle to mass protest."

Well, if shooting children in their beds is a powerful tool of justice, I suppose we could say the same for tear gas and baton charges at these bastards.

Which I would wholeheartedly endorse.

NJ has a HUUUGGGE problem with radical Islamic elements and state paid anit semitic nuts (i.e. Leroy Jones and Rutgers to name two). And their two senators the billionaire playboy Corzine and the fossil Lautenberg care not a whit.

"Israel is an apartheid, colonial settler state. I do not believe apartheid, colonial settler states have a right to exist."

Attention people of the world:

We, with our allies, won the war. It was then decided to give the Jewish people their own state, so they wouldn't be systematically destroyed anymore. If that pisses you off, tough. Like I said, we won the war.

Arrogance. Thinking you're the final arbiter over who has the right to exist and who doesn't. She knows more than the UN.

This religious strife masquerading as a territorial conflict sure is attracting some strange bedfellows. Massive racism and bigotry in the Arab world agasint everyone else, and yet the tiny Jewish state is this supposed monster.

I wish this kind of thinking were rare. As I think about the reactions we got at the NPR protest, I'm not so sure.

I remember Charles's topic from a few days ago about Mohammed Atta's having lived in New Jersey. Paterson, Newark and other towns now have large Arab Muslim populations.

This Kates person seems to be a professional rabble rouser and espouser of various and sundry "causes." It's people like her who give the legal profession a bad name, since she doesn't seem to give a crap about due process of law or even the basic right to keep on living, at least not where Israelis are concerned.

Just contemplating the ignorance of people like her makes me tired.

New Jersey Palestine Solidarity [Link: www.njsolidarity.org...] is the group sponsoring this...

""Palestinian resistance in all its forms has been a very powerful tool of justice," said Kates, 23, a Rutgers law student. "All forms, from armed struggle to mass protest.""

Of course, this only applies to the 'Palestinians'. All forms of self-defense on Israel's part is deemed unacceptable.

It's interesting how Israel has been redefined to justify the muders:

""Israel is an apartheid, colonial settler state..."

I'm glad someone clued me in. I would never have thought of Israel that way.

It's unbelievable the way history and facts are twisted in order to justify the actions of the 'Palestinians'. Just redfine your target to make it become an acceptable one.

Don't dare call the monsters, who urge their children to strap on bombs and kill Jews, terrorists and muderers. These people must be redefined as noble 'freedom fighters'.

I say to Israel: Wipe these people out before they wipe you out. Every country has the right to self defense. The world can stuff it's opinions of your actions.

#5 jimg
"Um, I believe that's called a target-rich environment."

Yes. All in one place. Convenient.

Will there be any IDF bulldozers in the area?

To keep this in perspective, these people involved in this movement define the lunatic fringe. Rutgers’ participation is another matter.

These type of gatherings are led by fanatics who want to create conditions for both the extermination of every Jew in Israel, and the weakening of American resolve to fight genocidal islamofascism. It is a collosal error to permit these exercises under cover of freedom of expression, because the logical conclusion of islamofascism is the negation of all freedom, other than the marginal license outside the savage, totalitarian scope of the Koran.

People need to understand the nature of POLITICAL ISLAM, which involves setting the strategic goal of the eventual establishment of an Islamic-State on a global scale, by tactical means of infiltrating and weakening -through democratic license - the adversary while preparing for large scale military attacks on same.

[Link: english.daralhayat.com...]

At the earliest opportunity, the Western countries need to devise laws that sanction shoot-on-sight orders, that enable wholesale liquidation of internal islamofascists. The standard reasonable-and-probable threshold for law enforcement, needs to be revised in consideration of the genocidal nature of this enemy. Islamofascists, including members of CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, AMC and MSA need to be shot to death on mere suspicion-and-association. Any Muslim who either participated in directly, or financed genocide training in Iran, Iraq, the "palestine entity", the "wahabi entity", Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Eritrea, Bosnia, Chechenya, Yemen, etc needs to be executed.

In the case of the Intifada and Iraqifada indulgences, islamofascists need to be targeted and an kill zone of a minimum of 500 feet diagonal needs to be permitted around the genocidists. Any funeral procession that follows the death of an islamofascist needs to be attacked with napalm, and any identifiable (by burns) survivor, needs to be liquidated.

The choice is simple: kill them now, or let them kill us later. The Western revulsion to mass execution is a liability that has to be addressed. Our willingness to license tactical islamofascism, by permitting ersatz islamofascist participation within democratic practice and allowing unrestricted assembly and incitement by these animals, has delivered an asset to this genocidal enemy. All social values must be conditioned by a survival ethic, and survival must be premissed on elimination of the mortal enemy, on both a national and international scale, by any means necessary

In the alternative, one can throw platitudes at islamofascism, or prohibit troops from attacking the genocidal enemy:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

The event, which organizers expect to draw at least 500

Only 500? I've wanted to join a few of the LGFer protests but they are always so far away with very little lead time given. This is in October. Can we round up 1000-1500 by then? Plan your family vacations now. It's Columbus Day weekend. And Oct. 12th is National Children's Day.

There are so many thoughts rolling around in my pea brain on this subject, but just too little energy to type them out. I guess this WoT is going to take a long time if Kates is representative of the the nitwits we have to defeat on the road to victory. Suffice it to say, this idiotarian is simply "Rachel Corrie, the East Coast Version." There would be a delicious irony if Rutgers has investments in Caterpiller. Maybe a first hand demonstration of a 'dozer's capabilities would be in order? Maybe Kates can be another Darwin Award volunteer?

But the mind still reels at the crap coming out of LLLs many sided mouths. This story is actually more disgusting than the dead body shredding ritual of the Palestinians discussed on LGF. This person grew up in the US and believes homicide bombings are "legitimate tactics." Hope Kates' parents are real proud of the asshole they brought into the world and raised to such a low level of humanity.

From the link here is C. Kates' e-mail --

ckates@pegasus.rutgers.edu

Perhaps Ms. Kates knows if a homicide murderer will be in attendance at the conference.

"Charlotte you ignorant slut."

sunlight is a great disinfectant

faster please

Here's some dribble written by this piece of shit along with her email: ckates@pegasus.rutgers.edu

Anyone ever notice why there aren't any Palestinians who are sympathetic of the Israeli cause? They are all murdered as collaborators.

7 sharona:

No wonder our judicial system is going down the tubes - this is the quality of intellect possessed by the average law student! As an aside, I am taking the LSAT again, after a long sabbatical, and am not looking forward to attending class with twenty-something know-it-alls like Kate. Then again, I might enjoy mixing it up with the likes of her!

I don't think she's an example of the level of intellect possed by the average law student. She's a communist, ex-Scientologist psychopath that happened to take the LSAT's and fill out a law school application. Her admissions to Rutgers does not reflect well on the school at all - hopefully there are some administration types who are regretting their decision to admit her in the first place.

Currently, Rutgers is ranked 78th (tied with a sister campus and 4 other schools) by USN&WR. If they keep admitting people like her, their ranking will fall even further.

Good luck on your LSAT's!

This my friends is what causes Anti-Semitism.U.S. presses Israel on outposts and prisoners
And this:
Memos show Liberty attack was an error
For all these years Israel paid a big price for something they never did while the United States knew the truth.
This is Anti-Semitism:Visas to America
Israeli's are being punished until all of Israel gives in
to the palestinians.
Rewarding terror is Anti-Semitism:

19:15American official: U.S. to provide $20 million in direct aid to PA, step reflecting U.S. support for Abbas` leadership (AP)

And because the PA has America in their pocket
this is Anti-Semitism to the fullest degree: Attacks will continue, Jihad cell warns
This is what happens when terror is rewarded.
To push Israel to release prisoners who killed my
family and friends is sick and disgusting. It is morally repugnant like nothing else.

You can all talk about how the media is biased how the
Europeans hate Jews, how universities are screwing
Jews over by spewing their Anti-Semitic hate,
but HATE BEGINS AT HOME.

You all can pretend that Israel is not getting the short
end from the United States. You can ignore the fine
articles written by fine conservative's who care more
for Israel and TRUTH then how their rightful criticism affects the president for whom they elected.
Silence has has perpetuated Anti-Semitism. It gave strength to those that hate and wish to destroy us.
Words of sympathy are empty. We must act.
If we do not step up to the plate now and challenge our leaders then Israel will suffer in unimaginable ways.

#35 Camel Prophet

We don’t need any sugar-coated remedies to the Islamic problem. Besides, shooting them one at a time is wasteful of ammunition and requires excessive human resources to pull the triggers. Please rethink your program – and put some teeth into your proposals.

We’ve got to get tough with these guys, not gentle.

#35 Camel Prophet,

Whoa, hard core, man. But I sometimes think, as repugnant as it seems, that you may be right. I fear it has come to this, or that it is inevitable.
I guess Lenin was right -- we have sold our enemies the rope with which they will hang us. I believe we have a crisis and I lay the blame for this crisis directly at the feet of the Pomo Assplows who run our universities (even grade schools) and the mainstream, elitist media.
I sincerely believe that a second civil war is looming on the horizon and it will be decisive. Indeed, we may have to excise this cancer no matter how ugly the manner. If the idea of radical mastectomies and other surgeries to eliminate tumors is acceptable in the world, it should not be too hard to make the transition to wiping out any threat to the survival of our civilization. I am sure we have to start with strong words and relentless pursuit of truth against the lies -- the internet is mightier than the sword.
And it may be necessary, after all, to raise arms against those who will not see the light of reason and who wish for nothing else but our destruction. The time for navel gazing and contemplation is coming to an end, I fear, and the time for action is drawing nigh.
God help us all.

#38 willy

Perhaps Ms. Kates knows if a homicide murderer will be in attendance at the conference.

One can only hope Kates would get a first hand (and both legs) demonstration of Islamic 'splodiation up close and personal. But then that really would be a "very powerful tool of justice," now wouldn't it.

Oh great, I'm attending that school this summer.

Back in 1985 when the anti divestment in South Africa was all the rage I told my fahter "wait a few years and they willstart on Israel." Unfortunately I was right.

Several people have mentioned that New Jersey has a large Islamic population, and many connections to radical groups. I'll add that many of the Muslim radicals and nasty trolls who have posted comments at LGF have also been in New Jersey; here is the latest, who posts a link to the web site of Sas Jamal, the founder of the evil ClearGuidance Muslim forum for bloodthirsty Islamic teens:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#43 selpaw

If we do not step up to the plate now and challenge our leaders then Israel will suffer in unimaginable ways.

Not just Israel. The civilized world sacrifices Israel to the Islamic terrorists at our own peril.

#41-- Yes, and there are lots of Israelis sympathetic to the Palestinians... which should say it all.

Israel has a society capable of feeling compassion for its enemies, while the Palestinians (who misappropriated that name, they're just Arab immigrants from Jordan and Egypt who colonized Jewish land) don't.

As for the Rupture's University shindig, time to call ProtestWarriot.com ?

49 Charles writes:

the founder of the evil ClearGuidance Muslim forum for bloodthirsty Islamic teens

Sort of reminded me of the "Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good And Want To Learn To Do Other Things Good Too."

Thanks for the email addresses.
Emailed Charlotte Kates, Rutgers U. and the Gov.
If this goes on, it would be great if someone recorded what they will be saying.
Not to mention having a protest against them... they would probably run away like the other ISM'ers...they cant take it when someone confronts them, because they are liars and deceivers and cant take the light of truth.

#21 Yeah I know it's a scientology site... it appears that Miss Kates' last cause was Scientology, then she reformed and crusaded against them. Now she has picked up another cause... maybe her next one will be pro-Israel...

A quick Google on her name turns up a bunch of looney writing.

Radical as it is, I think Campel Prophet has something there.

I definitely think it would help if George Bush would get up and say that Islam is NOT a religion of peace and that he's been misguided in thinking that it is. That would help for starters but while he's pushing this Road Map there's no chance of that.

It's simple--don't elect him again and make security from Islamofascism the key issue at the next election.

I certainly am in Canada. I'm asking every politician running for office, whether municipally or federally or provincially, "What's your stand on dealing with Islamic agitators and their Palestinian fellow travellers?"

Organizer Charlotte Kates

Some info on Charlotte Kates in this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

New Jersey has always been a hotbed of antisemitism - if I recall, it's number 2 or 3 for antisemitic incidents in the country (NY & Florida are the other 2 - it tends to correlate with Jewish population).

Years ago, Farrakhan's "Information Minister" spoke at Kean College - virulently antisemitic tripe. The school had large black & Jewish populations... It was a very ugly scene, scary for the Jewish kids.

No doubt the Black Muslims & the Arab Muslims in Jersey are getting together for this little antisemitic hate-fest. Hope the cops are out in force...

I want to know why my United States..home of Liberty, Justice and Democracy...is planning to fund the Palistinians directly? Article on Drudge. This is AFTER 30 years or so of promising American Jews that this would NOT happen. Why is my Country setting up a legally protected and fully funded and armed (yes..they will be armed on way or another) Palistinian State? Nothing will change after they get their Legal State. They will continue bringing up their issues..committing acts of Terrorism and now American Citizens will be out there supporting it with their own money.

If you dont want to support Terrorism (oh yes..that is what it is) and Antisemetism discuised and blended with Nationalism...write, scream and yell...do whatever.

This is beneath the USA to be doing this.

Look to the A R A B I S T S in American Govnt and especially in the STATE DEPT/CIA/NSA etc/DEFENSE/COMMERECE Depts. Look to Arabists in Business, Media, and Congress, Think Tanks, in Islamic Supported Chairs in our Universities..(look for the money and perks pour into the institutions by the Saudis et al)

While we are at it..ask why Arabist based Intelligence Cooking thats been going on for 50 years or so..HAS NOT been investigated. It HAS been going on..from Arabists in the US AND aided by Arabist Spook Agencies from Abroad in Europe...Hellooo...time to discuss this while we are trying to trash the so called "Neo Cons" Jews that are a "Cabal" that surrounded little Bush and NOT discussin..the larger and more lethal problem of Arabist influence in OUR Society for 70 some years...??? Why only investigatin..tha Jews...???

Arabists are people that work inside their own country FOR the BENEFIT of Islamic Countries. There are America, Canadian,British,Swiss, FRENCH, etc Arabists each with therir own Spook Agencies..No one has looked into the long and sorry history of Cookin the Facts..and Disinformation that has come out of these many and POWERFUL and SECRET Spook Agencies. Thats not even including the Spook Agencies of the various ISLAMIC COUNTRIES...Dontcha think we ought to know about that? People in Govnt know..how bout the American People?

in life, there are pinheads and pinworms
charlotte kates is both a pinhead and a pinworm.

she also hates Jews - but where does incitement end
and killing start?

that she is a law student and deprived someone else of that position is just another reason why i want to just vomit...

[Link: www.njsolidarity.org...]
Israel has no "Right to Exist"
by Charlotte L. Kates
March 3, 2003

Note: This article was originally posted to a private list. It was printed, in edited form, in the Rutgers student newspaper The Daily Targum on March 5, 2003, retitled by the editors as "Palestinian roots in land proven through history". The Targum version (here) does not include the information about UN Resolution 194.

What may one call a state created from colonized land, stolen from its native inhabitants and turned over to European invaders through a process of militarily-enforced ethnic cleansing and occupation? While one may call it "the United States," one may also call it "Israel"--but one certainly cannot, and should not call it a "democratically-created state."

In 1947, Palestinian Arabs owned 93% of the land of Palestine. Their land had been subject to British colonial rule since the end of World War I, at which point those same colonizers made vague promises to the nascent Zionist movement of a "Jewish national home" in Mandatory Palestine. The Zionist movement was, in the early twentieth century, but one fringe of Jewish cultural and social organization--and a reactionary one, formed in nationalistic reaction to the internationalist organizing of Jewish socialists, communists and anarchists; as such, despite (and perhaps because of) European anti-Jewish hatred, the Zionist movement found support among various European political sectors.

The Zionist movement considered not only Palestine as a place for their dream of a "Jewish state"; it considered Argentina and Liberia as other likely prospects--also nations of the global South, long subject to domination, imperialism and exploitation. A largely secular movement, nonetheless, Zionism became centered around Palestine due to its historical and religious significance. The Zionist movement never pretended to offer anything better to indigenous population than ethnic cleansing and subservience; its mythology of a "land without people for a people without land" served to consign the Palestinians to nonexistence in popular propaganda while seeking to create such nonexistence in fact.

While Jews had always lived alongside Muslims and Christians in historic Palestine, they were Palestinian Jews; the Zionists' essential identification and role was not their religious affiliation but rather their political organization as a European settler colonialist movement, seeking the dispossession of Palestinians and the expropriation of their land. Following World War II, a "Partition Plan" was proposed and adopted by the United Nations; without consultation with the Palestinians who lived in Palestine, Palestine was to be divided into two states--a "Jewish state" and an "Arab state." Unsurprisingly, the Palestinian people resisted this new imperialist attack; there was no compelling reason to accept the splitting and expropriation of large amounts of Palestinian land for no other reason than the decision of European powers and European settlers. Confronted with the Palestinian people's desire to retain their land and independence, the Zionist forces waged an armed onslaught. Contrary to common accounts of the 1948 war, the "Arab armies" entered not the territory granted to the "Jewish state" in the partition plan, but only that designated as "Arab land"--the Zionist army was equally determined to reject partition as proposed, as it failed to satisfy dreams of a Greater Israel.

During the war of 1948, thousands of Palestinian civilians were slaughtered and nearly a million driven from their land and homes, becoming refugees in the West Bank, Gaza, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. This process of ethnic cleansing was neither accidental nor innocuous; it had long been part of Zionist plans for Palestine. Since that time, they have been repeatedly denied their internationally-recognized human right to return to their homes and homelands. Every year, the United Nations has re-affirmed Resolution 194, the resolution passed in December of 1948 that called upon all refugees to be allowed to return to their homes. However, the newly-declared Israeli state soon declared those refugees "absentees" and their land "absentee property"--subject to confiscation by the state for the Jewish National Fund, the agency that oversees over 90% of Israeli land--land that may never be sold to a Palestinian. The Palestinian refugees have continued to demand their human right to return; indeed, Israel's admission to the UN was conditioned upon its acceptance of 194. Nevertheless, today, nearly five million Palestinian refugees and direct descendants in the world are still waiting for their right of return.

The Palestinians who remained in the land that became Israel were subject to military rule until 1967 and continue today to be the victims of more than twenty laws, including the Basic Laws of Israel, that deny them equal status with Jews in Israel. In the West Bank and Gaza Strip, further Palestinian territory illegally occupied by Israel in 1967, Palestinians live under brutal military occupation, struggling to survive and to continue to fight back against Israeli oppression--deprived of water, facing home demolitions, detention and torture, and death.

The oppression and occupation of Palestinian land is funded by United States tax dollars; Israel receives more foreign aid money than any other country in the world, and has used its extensive military aid to garner advanced weapons to wage an illegal war in occupied territory against a civilian population. Our money goes to pay for Apache helicopters and F-16s, raining death and destruction on Palestinian towns; our money goes to pay for the M-16s held by Israeli soldiers as they take aim at Palestinian demonstrators.

All people have the right to practice their religion freely and to live in peace, but no group of people has the right to invade the land of another, expropriate that land by force, force out its indigenous residents, and create a racist, brutal apartheid structure. There is no right to imperialism, and no right to apartheid. The world said "no" in South Africa; the world must say "no" today to Israel. As members of the Rutgers University community, we can raise our own voices in protest; we can call upon our university to stop financially investing in corporations that continue to do business with the State of Israel until Israel ceases its violations of human rights. There is no right to create an ethnically, religiously exclusive state. As we stood against fascism and apartheid, we must also stand against Israeli apartheid.

Atila and Camel Prophet do not do LGF or saniuty any favors with their posts. Wars are won in many ways, as each domino falls, the US is closer to winning.

After enough Islamist defeats, Islam will begin to police their own- when some idiot starts spewing idiocy, they will get slapped down on the spot.

As Daniel Pipes so aptly puts it- militant Islam is the problem, moderate Islam is the solution.

The moderates cannot win if we become worse than bin Laden

I hope the FBI has people there listening and recording and videotaping this get-together.

#57 -

I grew up in Jersey (1950's, '60's, '70's) and never heard about or experienced any antisemitic incidents there. I never felt threatened. I think that the increased number of incidents is a relatively new phenomenon which (mirabile dictu!) will no doubt just happen to correlate with the increase in the Arab Muslim population there. It's the same thing wherever there is a critical mass of Muslims, because they're so - you know - peace-loving and all...

#42 Sharona

OT, But

WOOO-HOOO

My alma mater, Northwestern School of Law at Lewis and Clark College ranks ABOVE Rutgers at #69.

Sweet...

Event eh dippy hippy ELFers at NWSL are better than the bald-faced jooo-haters at Rutgers.

Chew on a turd, Kates!

besides, being a pinhead and a pinworm she is a psycho...

[Link: members.aol.com...]

#50 freedomsound

The civilized world sacrifices Israel to the Islamic terrorists at our own peril.

It is so disheartening. No one wants to see the truth.
It is much easier to blame others.
The consequences of this will be horrific.
Even here on LGF, everyone is so horrified by
seeing a bus blown to bits yet when Bush does
a complete turnaround it is treated as through it
never happened. There has not been one word
here concerning the money Bush is giving to the palestinians or the newest pressure the White House is placing on Israel.

The United States wants the release of prisoners with
blood on their hands yet almost everyone here would much rather blame Sharon. Worse, no one will
ask what more the U.S., can threaten Israel with if
they do not comply.

While Jews have been thrown to the lions for many
reasons we now see they are being sacrificed again
because 'we dare not expose our president.'
I don't care what president it is because a grave
injustice is takiing place before our eyes and no
one speaks except in sympathy. I say keep your
sympathy. If you really care and you want to help,
demand the truth.
We recall the times this has happened before and with catastrophic consequences? The worse time being
when the world stood silent while Jews marched to their death.

I see you care freedomsound. Thanks.

(58) Leah
Truth is, no one cares.
Israel is headed for a big fall. Wait and see.

#63 Woah...creepy.

#63 - scary photo. I was picturing those wild, bug eyes anyway, just from her loony rants.

With her penchant for supporting truly screwball causes one has to wonder where this is all coming from. I can't help but think that she may be a textbook case of the "poor little rich girl, I'll get you Mommy and Daddy" form of anti-social behavior. She seems to go wherever there is a ready-made audience and spouts off what she must know they want to hear. Automatic acceptance. I wonder if she is very charismatic. That characteristic usually accompanies what appears to be her form of schizophrenia or perhaps even megalomania. Pity.

Evil warps the visage as it warps the soul. No Dorian Grey, she.

#63 -

Collingswood! I lived right near there in Cherry Hill for nine years (1979-1988). Collingswood is a working class/lower middle class white suburb of Camden, kind of like Kearny (vis-a-vis Newark) but less urban. Not much of a Jewish population there, as I recall (Cherry Hill, OTOH, has a large Jewish population). And she looks anything but Jewish to me - wouldn't surprise me if she lied about it to give herself more credibility for her anti-Israel shtick, but that may just be wishful thinking on my part.

This is totally disgraceful. It would be no different than allowing the Klu Klux Klan or the neo nazis on a campus to praise slavery and lynchings of blacks and other minorities. I just hope the Jewish and Pro Israeli students on that campus threaten to leave if Rutgers allows these hatemongers to proceed with their little hate/pro genoicide conference.People like Mrs.Kates and that Proffessor of Anthropology at Columbia who said he wished there were "a million mogadiushs" have such a skewed morality.Their so filled with hate and evil that I honestly don't think they even have a conscience anymore.Their whole ideology reminds me of that verse from the bible "woa unto those call evil good and good evil".

Spreading lies and inciting hate is peacful? No doubt she attended many courses in the middle east studies department... which are all funded by SA.

If Israel is "a colonialist, apartheid state", I bet Kates and her ilk can't wait for the Palestinian Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Unfortunately, if such a thing ever comes to pass, Israel will cease to have exist as a Jewish state, and most, if not all, the Jews in Israel will have been killed in the second Holocaust.

Charlotte Kates is also the person behind campuswatch-WATCH.com, and she has thoughtfully provided her email address on the page linked above.

This thread could qualify as the beginnings of:
campustwatch-WATCH-watch.com

I was just thinking that Kates' skewed view of history can probably be attributed to people like Edward Said and Noam Chomsky whose toxic beliefs have poisoned civilized and rational discourse throughout Academia.

47   S.K Hui  ~ Actually, you just might want to take some classes in the middle east "studies" and write an expose novel. (Put me first on your list to buy it.)

I am totally serious. I'm surprised there have been no investigations other than Steven Emerson about what has been taking place thoughout the entire American university and college middle east depts.

It is not spontanity that inspired this past massive lefty protest against the Iraq war. The middle east "studies" department has been dishing out the propaganda for years. They know these white elitest kids are programed with liberal white guilt and take full advantage of that.

Just watch... there will be NO protests out of these campuses for sending troups to Niger. I might be wrong, but the rebels in this case are not muslim... and the people are?

#60,

I would like to think that the moderate muslim is the solution but I don't see it yet. I realize that moderates in many muslim countrys can get killed for making moderate comments. Yet in America, Canada and most eU nations this isn't the case. Where are the moderate muslim marches for peace in these nations? Or if not peace marches how about moderates demonstrating against terrorists? Unfortunately we won't be seeing demonstrations against what the extremists do or want because I sincerely believe that most of the moderates support the extremists. That support isn't 100% of course but I would bet most moderate muslims agree with the extremists 50-60 percent.

When a synagouge or church gets desecrated you can usually find christians helping the jews or the jews helping the christians. Of course depending on what part of America you are in most other religions also participate. I have yet to see muslims come to the aid of other houses of worship. I have personally only seen 2 such cases and only have anecdotal evidence on a few others yet I have not seen or heard of muslims helping non muslim houses of worship. I hope there are some cases which I am ignorant of where they did pitch in to help. Muslims seem to work at being seperate from non believers which is of course their right. Yet until I start seeing the moderate muslim which I hope is the majority, start acting like they want to be part of an all inclusive society I don't see much hope.

I personally hope that the terrorism that we are fighting today is like a bad flu case where strong antibiotics are needed but it will be cured. Hopefully it isn't cancer where even if you go into remission the cure (like amputation or organ removal etc) is almost as worse as the disease. The moderates of the religion of peace needs to decide which side they are truly on.

Selpaw..yu aint telling me anything I dont know and have known.

This is where the rubber meets the road..and America decides wether they will follow the Jew killers of the past or say NO.

The Policy of the US now is to create a Terror State of Palistine for people who never were..and arent now who they say they are. American Citizens are STILL in charge and can say NO to this. BOTH parties are determined to go down this road..

Both Candidates want to be in power and will NOT do anything IF they think most of the American public objects to it..Lets just see...Finally.

#58   Leah  I want to know why my United States..home of Liberty, Justice and Democracy...is planning to fund the Palistinians directly? This is AFTER 30 years or so of promising American Jews that this would NOT happen. Why is my Country setting up a legally protected and fully funded and armed (yes..they will be armed on way or another) Palistinian State?

Good question. I have yet to hear anyone in Washington explain these actions, especially since they claim to be fighting terrorism around the world.

Unfortunately, I think Ms. Kates is a self-hating Jew. I don't know why some of the worst critics of Israel are Jewish (although this one is pretty extreme!) Witness Adam Shapiro of the ISM. Anyway for those into geneology, the name Kates is probably an Americanized version of Katz (a common Jewish last name) which ironically is a member of the preistly class, or Cohanim -- Katz in Hebrew letters is short for Cohen Tzedek, or righteous member of the preistly class. Too ironic.

I WILL BLESS THEM THAT BLESS THEE...

GW Bush will NOT be re-elected---a guarantee

I'm ashamed to have graduated from Rutgers.
Financial contributions cut off.

Oh My God! I read this and emailed it to my sis-in-law who is a professor @ Rutgers. Granted, I suspect she falls into that symPALthizer category, but I hope she isn't and at least throws a professor tizzy with SOMEbody in the administration. One can dream, right?

I don't know if this has been posted already (don't have time to read the whole thread), but here are some links from a previous thread re: Charlotte Kates.

See here, Nekama's post here and Donna V.'s post here.

(Or check this post, if it makes it easier).

Apologies if this post is a little garbled.

Going on the NJ Solidarity movement website, the people that are sponsoring this fun event, i noticed on July 26th there is an event celebrating the begining of the Cuban communist revolution.

Would it be worth while to point out how communist and radical islam hate each other? P

robably not, my views have been too warped by corporate media (controlled by the Jews) to see the truth. . .Only young, unemployed college students could see such truths.

#5 - jimg

Um, I believe that's called a target-rich environment.

I was just thinking the same thing. What an opportunity here...
No point in having a bad reputation if you can't cash in on it...

#21 - Robert.

Mind you their use of the word "unbalanced" is pretty fitting in this case.
Even Scientologists look good compared to Kates.

This is what I mean when I say "woa unto those who call good and evil good".Look at the difference between these two societies. [Link: www.ourenemies.org...]

And I have seen many more pictures like that .Of course,you will never see these kind of pictures in the media because they would automatically be labeled as racist or politically incorrect and the ACLU and the Arab American Anti Discrimination League would be threatening to sue.

No I am not saying all Palestinians are wicked or that all Israelis are virtous.Clearly that is not the case when you think of people like that Goldstein guy who shot up that mosque a few years ago,or the guy who assisinated Rabin.BUT, overall, I do think the Israelis have shown far more compassion,concern, and restraint than most nations would have in similar circumstances.The fact that most Israelis can still show compassion for the Palestinian Arabs even though most polls over the last few years have shown that they overwhelmingly support the mass murder of Israeli civilians shows a level of tolerance,and mercy on the part of the Israelis that is astonishing and has hardly been heard of in any societies in history.And yet for the most part,it seems like most of the world is against Israel.But as angry as it makes me,to see the victims get blamed and villified all the time,I still think there is a reason even for this.I really think there is a spirtual event underlying all the conflict in the mideast.In fact,I would even go further and say that those who are opposed to God's Chosen people the Jews are really demonstrating their hatred and rejection of the Living God. Prejudice and bigotry in all forms are wrong,but ever notice how the people who hate Jews the most...nazis,communists,islamic terroists,nation of islam,the klu klux klan,are the most vicious and hateful of all people.All of them would love nothing more than to see the Jewish people wiped off the face of the earth.To me these so called *human rights* groups like the ISM and other's, along with people like this Kates woman, are no different than these hate groups.The only difference is that they have gotten smart and realize if they just go under the facade of being "peace and human rights activists" that they can deceive enough gullible people out there to benefit Israel's enemies. But the world turns a blind eye to this kind of hatred just like they did during the holocaust.Yet if you dare say anything against these so called *peace activists* or moslems or arab americans when they support inhumane terrorists who murder innocent civilians you are automatically condemned as being racist and intolerant.

Haggai Elitzur's first-hand account of last year's Michigan divestment conference is an interesting read.

Charlotte Kates obviously learned distorted history from her Arab/Muslim professors. They are like the Communist and Nazis who tried to rewrite history to accommodate their lies. Their wasn't any Arab/Muslim presence in Israel or the surrounding areas before the 18th century. I wouldn't be surprised if one day these Islamofacists announce that the Grand Canyon was once a holy Muslim site!

Unfortunately calling for the destructon of Israel is now common in the radical left-wing press. There are no attempts to even hide their intentions. Pacifica radio even has a show called "Intifada radio." They describe Hamass as "resistance fighters" and routinely call Sharon a butcher. Of course Arafat is a "great man of peace." It is very disturbing to me because I started listening to Pacifica a decade ago in jr. high and liked some of their progressive programs regarding women's rights, human rights. Now is has become a voice for terrorist Arab/Muslims. I've written to them to show my displeasure. It probably didn't do any good but at least I got my "protest" heard.

Is it just me or has a single Jewish Congressman or woman done anything regarding the anti-Jewish incitement currently being sponsored at universities, mosques and in the media? How about the national Jewish organizations? Forgetting them, how about individuals taking action? I don't see or hear any of this taking place in the face of on-going anti-Jewish provocation. Why the continuing acceptance of this behavior in the U.S.?

Example--right now there is a one-week boycott of the New York Times. Why one week? Why just the NY Times? Why not demonstrations? Why not shut down the NY Times printing plant? Why not invade their editorial offices?

It's obvious that the so-called Jewish organizations are doing nothing and plan to do nothing, and the same goes for Jewish officials in government.

If the Jewish community isn't willing to do more than speak and write, and utter banalities about fairness and morality, then expect much worse in the months and years to come, even here in the US.

Those not willing to fight and die for their freedom, never keep it. Another way of saying, being nice will get you killed when you're in a war.

1/ Charlotte Kates is not only an Israel basher, she's also the same person who was dumb enough (or sly enough) to get involved with Scientologists a few years ago. She has posted a lot about how bad they are. Here is a Usenet post that shows that the Kates that attends Rutgers and the Kates that uses an AOL e-mail address are the same person:

Post

2/ Charlotte Kates is involved with FactNet.org. She either runs the site or is a contributor. Here is her page on the site that provides links to Scientology-bashing stuff:

FactNet

What's most interesting is that this website also has a section about "Terrorism Cults":

Terrorism Cults

But, amazingly, she doesn't seem to think that Palestinian society has degenrated into a terrorism cult. Or maybe she acknowledges it, but thinks that states built around a terrorism cult have a right to exist.

3/ I don't care for Scientologists, but you should read what they wrote about her. It turns out that Charlotte was/is (surprise, surprise) a member of communist groups. They have reason to believe that sweet old Charlotte was a mole who only pretended to want to be a member of Scientology. She didn't stay a member for very long. Read this...

"[E]earlier this year, Kates' activities were found to involve the spreading of hate propaganda to a 15 year-old girl.

"Kates was taken to task by this child's father who found a message from Kates on the hard drive of his daughter's computer which, according to the father, "urges her to hate." He told Kates "it clearly attempts to poison her and drive a wedge between her and us, her parents." "I believe your actions may well be criminal, they certainly strike me as the action of an unbalanced personality." "

3 things:

Email sent to ckates@pegasus.rutgers.edu bounces. Better luck with clkates@aol.com.

Yesterday, the always malignant Star Ledger, New Jersey's version of the LA Times or Chicago Tribune, did a wonderful job of whitewashing Kates and her little hatefest.

Rutgers isn't going to stop this abomination. Letters written to President Richard McCormick get responded to as follows:

Office of the Vice President for Student Affairs
19 College Avenue w Van Nest Hall w Suite 104
New Brunswick w New Jersey w 08901-1246
email: ovpsaru@rci.rutgers.edu

July 1, 2003
Dear Sir or Madam:

President McCormick has asked me to respond to you concerning the status of a conference titled the “Third National Student Conference on the Palestine Solidarity Movement” and tentatively scheduled to be held at a Rutgers facility in October 2003.

The proposed conference would be sponsored by a registered Rutgers student organization. As is the case with the hundreds of other programs, conferences, and events held at Rutgers facilities each year, the conference program represents the views of the program organizers and not those of Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.

Rutgers will continue the review process for this event in accordance with the various policies and procedures with which any program must comply before approval of a reservation for use of the facility.

I sincerely appreciate your continued interest in the Rutgers community.

Yours truly,

Emmet A. Dennis, Ph.D.
Professor and Vice President for Student Affairs

The Ruthgers Alumni Association has a site here as part of it's campaign to badger alumni in the legislature to send more money to the Alma Mater.

I suggest that people use it to inform these influential alumni how we feel about the misuse of public funds by terror groupies.

Ms. Kates career path:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Here's another article from JTA that gives additional details about Kates' group's attempts to intimidate Jews and disrupt any program having any connection to Judaism:

[Link: www.jta.org...]

Kates is a student at Rutgers-Newark law school.

#92 ari
IIRC Factnet was started by Wollersheim, the only person to have sued Scientology,... and collected.

I don't know where you're getting this stuff about her running Factnet, but it's so far off that it's laughable.

Save your criticism of her for when you can post actual info about her, rather than assumptions based on casual links around the net. FYI... She's known among cult watchers as being unreliable, which merely makes her nuttier than most of the rest of us human rights champions. :-)

Work accident, anyone?

DAMMIT! Just when I thought i was going to be able to sleep without any more angst, this anti-semite funt shows up and ruins it!

The LEAST I can do is return the favor. Wonder if she'd like a few Klansmen to show up as her "bodyguards"? I actually have aquaintences in low places who would love to help her out as long as they get to wear their hoods.

The main reason the islamofascists are locating in Jersey is because they can't afford to live in the City and INS is actually a presence there.

I'm still convinced the stench of Newark is caused by the palesimian condition there.

The BEST revenge for this would be for the major news nets to pick it up and broadcast it everywhere with commentary from the local B'nai B'rith chapter.

Makes me want to scream like an actress and start throwing things!