It wuz wimmin hair rayz, I know it, guvna!

What's with the guy on the left, trying to push the car backwards?

Just goes to show what can happen if you break wind while holding a lit cigarette with the windows rolled up.

gymnast-LOL!

A mysterious explosion ripped through the car,

har har har har har!

the mystery is how these "reporters" can sleep at night. giving aid and comfort to these palistinian baby murder's

Those wily Israelis must have invented guns that can fire from so far away that witnesses can't see them. That's the only explanation that fits all the facts as we know them.

No Israeli "gunboats" and/or Mossad "death-rays"? Damn, whoever did this, they deserve an award for stumping the Pali "paramedics".

#3 gymnast:

Just goes to show what can happen if you break wind while holding a lit cigarette with the windows rolled up.

My mother always said smoking was bad for your health.

From the blood on the hood, it looks like the blast was from behind, but what is that damage to the right front? Just a junk car?

Darn. If the blood dries, it will just ruin that car's finish.

Perhaps another unfortunate workplace accident?

Where's Earl Scheib when you really need him?

After looking at this for a few minutes, anybody else thinking this has staged written all over it?

OK, I reread this a bit more carefully:

No Israeli helicopters were seen in the area, apparently ruling out the possibility of an attempted Israeli targeted killing.

"Apparently" ruling out the possibility that it was Israelis--but we can't be sure, now, can we?

My bet is that his backseat full of candy grenades accidentally went off, blowing the fool through the windshield.

Anyway, judging by the kid pulling out the body parts, looks like the Palestinians are equal-opportunity trophy hunters.

9 Engineer 11/30/2003 06:25PM PST

From the blood on the hood, it looks like the blast was from behind, but what is that damage to the right front? Just a junk car?

Or *inside* - as in, the terrorist's bomb went off early. Get it?

The damage could have happened when the moving vehicle came to an unguided stop. (I would guess that a "Bombmobile" should not look like a junker, because that could raise suspicions among the peacekeepers/army/etc.)

#1 evariste 11/30/2003 06:21PM PST

It wuz wimmin hair rayz, I know it, guvna! --Shhhhh! Nobody's supposed to know about the "shoot-around-the-corner hair rayz"!

What's with the guy on the left, trying to push the car backwards? -- No, bless your heart. He's groping for pieces of the body.... Its a "death-cult thang" - normal people wouldn't understand. We'd probably call for a cop instead of disrupting a "crime scene"....

Maybe his sister was in the car, things got out of hand, and damn, one of the grenade pins got pulled.

And yet another premature detonation. No wonder they're always seething.

What make car?
What year?
How often/how far and for what purpose do/did you drive this car/
And your problem is/was?

A new discipline is born: suicide bomber car talk

Call it in to Click + Clack on NPR. Who better to handle?

It was an IDF Death Ray fired from an Invisible Black Helicopter

OT: One good thing about the media, if they smell blood they'll keep on digging

[Link: www.msnbc.com...]

Would any LGF minion with twisted sense of humor mind posting this on DU? Let the morlocks work themselves into a frenzy :-)!

Kinda OT: Burns: Israeli concessions not good enough

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told US special envoy William Burns of planned concessions to the Palestinian population, at the same time reiterating the importance of Palestinian security measures that must be taken, at a meeting between the two Sunday evening.

Burns' reaction was that the concessions described were not sufficient, and told Sharon that he expects Israel to abide by its obligations to dismantle settlements, in accordance with the road map.

Damned airbags. Can't trust 'em.

My first hat tip. It warms the cockles of my heart (Hot cockles are invigorating).

#12 Paladin--That car would cause Mr. Scheib to correct his slogan: "ALMOST any car. Almost."

I am not a too much of a science girl (thought I am taking A&P classes in SFCC as well as Chemistry 410 in SMCC) but I have a feeling it has something to do with previous posts about Israeli advances in nanotechnology, communications, software and life sciences.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Maybe he thought he was reaching for his cell phone.

This one time, at terrorist camp, we were huffing paint in the front seat of the Pinto when Abdul showed us how Allah discovered fire by rubbing the bones of dead Jews together...

#22

Burns' reaction was that the concessions described were not sufficient, and told Sharon that he expects Israel to abide by its obligations to dismantle settlements, in accordance with the road map.

Don't move a f**k inch on the (spit) roadmap (spit) until the Palestinians dismantle the terrorist groups!
Which, of course, they won't do.

.."planned concessions to the Palestinian population,"

This is also known as appeasement. What is Sharon smoking these days?

Appeasement never worked before, why does Sharon think it will work now?

"From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free.."

How can an Israeli possibly concede anything to the PLO?

How come the impoverished Gazans have the money
to buy a car on the $2 a day handout they get from the UN and blow it all away?

Looks like this terror-twit just got an F in Bombmaking 101.

RING RING
"Hello?"

"Hey, Yusuf, it's me, Mohammad!"

"Dammit Mohammad, I told you not to call this number. It's wired to the car bomb!"

"Really?"

"Yeah, now I only have ten seconds to get out of this car, you assho"BOOOM

Bwaaaahaaahaaah!

#23, Robert Crawford. Must be the new export regs taking effect requiring that lead azide be used as a gas generator in the airbags in all cars going to the PA.

I wonder if this had anything to do with their Firestone tires? Where is Ralph Nadar when you need him? Unsafe at any speed, indeed.

Has anyone thought that this could be the opening salvo of a Palestinian civil war?

Doubtfull but possible.

Didn't this also happen to a Hizbollah leader in Lebenon. Wasn't he just driving along and....mysteriously blew to bits?

Ya know, on second look at that pic the roof of the car is caved IN, not out.

An impact of a small, guided bomb from above?

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

There is blood on the head light which leads me to believe the the damage and blood on the hood are probably from another individual. Perhaps the one that caused the "unguided stop" (read "was ran over"). Also, notice how the blood is smeared down the hood towards the front center of the car, likely caused as the/a body was slid off of the hood. Or, it could be from where the driver was dragged out, but that still (IMAO) doesn't account for the blood on the headlight and the wrecked front end. As for what the guy in the lower left is doing; the same thing that everyone in the picture is doing, moving the car. The guy up on the hood along with the guy with his arm through the driverside window are holding the steering wheel straight. While some push, pull, and direct. As for the make/model, my guess is that it looks like a Ford Tempo or Taurus. My guess about the explosion is that he was transporting explosives and they detonated, but that's merely speculation.

I wonder if there are any Palis taking a peek at LGF to see if we can figure this out for them.

#38 Dan G

Funny, here in the West, we use ambulances to escort accident victims to the hospital (not the car that was in the accident). But then again, if all your ambulances are full of explosives....

#37

Not enough damage present to consider something like that and no scortch marks. I also noticed the caving in, but am still thinking about what could've caused it.

Non-explosive (concrete filled training bomb) 500 to 250 pound GBU.

They've already been used by us in Iraq. No reason the IDF couldn't make one with off the shelf parts.

It's a Citroen, which is freaking ironic, wouldn't ya say? IMO- Allof that blood is from the driver. Even the headlight area.

...Or it's a 2004 MartyrMobile!

#42 Parabellum

I, and many others posting here, sure hope so. The Israeli government has it's hands, feet, and head tied behind their back, so it'd be great to see they're still fighting back despite all the interference.

The car does look different from the others that have been in explosions.

Not any "blast" expert here --it looks more like a car that has been in an accident than one blown up.

Don't these people understand the investigative benefits of preserving a crime scene?

Actually, I am curious about this. Maybe, as Dan G. mentioned, he ran over someone. Perhaps by some dumb luck, that someone was packing something. Geezz, where are those CSI guys?

The car looks fairly intact so the exlposive charge was probably small---perhaps a holy hand grenade. Or maybe, just maybe, a new, secret, IDF super weapon that targets Arab DNA.

I agree with Dan G. (Message #38) -- it sure looks like these guys are moving the car.

This scene isn't staged right now, but it will be soon.

I am by no means an explosives expert (reaganite, where the hell are you), but I do know concrete. A 250 lb or 500 lb "concrete bomb" dropped from even a paltry 200 ft altitude would do much more than just dent the roof of a car.

The indentation of the roof was most likely caused by over-zealous car swarmers doing the Pali-twostep for the AP cameras.

The Same Car, Different View

#49

You're right, the car doesn't look as much blown up as caved in. Maybe it was in a roll over accident or something heavy was dropped on it. Where is our resident explosives expert?

As for the cause of the explosion, why look a gift horse in the mouth?

Bottom line: the world's a slightly better place now than before the car exploded.

#52

Most correct. A dead jihadi is a good jihadi.

From the Voice of America website:

...In another development, Yusuf Abu Matar, a Palestinian security official and Islamic activist, was killed Sunday when his car exploded at the Rafah refugee camp in the Gaza strip. Palestinian security sources told Reuters the victim's car may have been booby-trapped.

In my view, the roof was creased by a non-explosive GBU arriving from behind and above, and it penetrated through the front of the passenger compartment, the dashboard, the firewall, (setting off the "explosion") and into the street. Ever heard 250 lbs of steel and concrete hit a car at 500 MPH? Er, no neither have I but still...
There was no "big boom" there.

I'm no weapons and explosives expert, but I do have two eyes and one brain. YMMV.

For Sale
94 Toyota Celica
Used once as a car bomb, but failed
switches and explosives extra
call Daoud, Gaza City 766-998

Look at the picture in #50. Note that the seats are intact. Looks to me like some thing blew up in front of the front seats. Maybe it was booby-trapped.

My best guess is explosives in the trunk, probably a bomb belt or two, not a car bomb. Car bombs are Beiruti culture, walking bombs are Pally.
See, the Arabs really do celebrate cultural diversity!

The inert GBU is a possibility.
The visible damage could also be caused by a minimum size shaped-charge weapon, guided but unpowered, impacting the rear of the car. Such a device could be released from a drone or a high-flying aircraft at a considerable distance.
The GBU guidance and control package is modular and could be adapted to quite small weapons (2 kg or less explosive content is not out of the question).
To the best of my knowledge, this has not been done in the past but only because there was little use for such a device.
There is such a use now.

Second pic shows the roof cut off by the "rescuers". I dunno. I'd love to see more pics.

"Candygram for Yusef!"

"Knock Knock"

"Yes???"

"Land shark, um I mean Allahgram"

"Ahh, please come in............."

Gee Yusef, does this mean a blowjob is out of the question?

OT but interesting

Protesters turn on Jesse Jackson during rally
The money quote:

A Loop rally demanding more jobs for young black men turned into a protest against the leadership of Reverend Jesse Jackson

48 SteveC 11/30/2003 07:28PM PST

"I agree with Dan G. (Message #38) -- it sure looks like these guys are moving the car.

This scene isn't staged right now, but it will be soon. "

Ok, I mistook the steering wheel for something else - I agree that the guy is steering.

Now, I copied the #2 pic and blew it up to 200% & 400%. I wanted to know what that circular pattern in the back seat was. Turns out it is a wheel. The odd bit is the discoloration at the edge of it, near the center of the back seat's backrest. Maybe it's a tear in the fabric? There is some discoloration on the armrest, like sandy dust. A similar shading of dust in the driver's seat, with a U-shaped clean area (head/shoulders area?) . There *might* be small amount of blood on the upper tire side/rim. Otherwise, the upholstery looks good.

The body may have slid at an angle toward the passenger headlight during removal. There does appear to be blood on the dash, but at 200% unenhanced, the rest of the car looks pretty clean.

Notice the red substance around the headlight on the left. Blood too? Suggests a bird strike. Possibly an Algerian Bustard engorged on Saudi Prince.
These things are related, you know...

He "blowed up real good," as they used to say on SCTV.

Is Standing Around the major industry in the PA? I'm trying to help my nephew with his report and we can't seem to find any industry there except a few small pyrotechnics firms and custom belt makers.

What do these folks do for a living?

#25 Lizzel

One can always hope.

is this what they meant by "cars of death"--lookit all those guys--maybe it was a lover's spat at an outdoor paleo gay disco--saturday nights at sayeed's--its a real blast-- special appearance--abu ricky martin sings "she bangs" at 2am

Charles, you might want to preserve that second picture in SteveC's #50.

At 200%, the driver's window may be showing heavy damage - hard for me to tell at that angle with a simple blowup.

At 250%, the upper rim of the backseat tire shows a single pixel that is just as red as the hood pixels - the rubber does seem to be darkened.

That could be the front driver's wheel, since the car appears to be tilting, esp. in the first pic.

The front passenger window in Pic #2 has no visible glass and is bent outward/down slightly toward the front - that seems likely to be from after the explosion. The back passenger glass is intact. I can't see the rear window glass or the back driver's-side window.

Anyone out there with better eyes/monitor and/or good photo enhancement skills?

As is, unless the entrance hole is covered by the wheel and the driver's head was the target, the upholstery doesn't seem to support a hit from behind. The back looks too clean to be a big hit from the front.

lookin' at them pitchers it sure looks lak the death ray to me.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant Yusuf Matar

It's idiots like Yusuf that drive the car insurance premiums for all Gazans through the roof.

#68 Esteban:

Collect welfare checks from the US government.

National Palestinian Radio Presents:
Car Bomb Talk-With Khaliq and Khalaq, the Plastique Brothers.

This is actually a camel strike at about 45 to 60 mph. Been there, seen that. The caved in roof blood in the headlight and ok hood are classic camel strike signs.

The tire/wheel in the back seat is the spare "donut". I say this upon comparing its width to that of the front right tire seen in Charles' pic. Secondly, it appears to have the standard look of small spare tires (do not exceed 55mph or whatever it is). Which of course begs the question, why would you put the spare in the back seat? Did the crowd attempt to place it on the car after the explosion, or did the original occupants place it there?
Regarding the blood on the hood, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that it is the result of removal of the driver from the car via the windshield. If you look at the second pic, you can see that it appears to have a beginning near the stump what remains of the windshield. My guess is the excavator(s) caught a body part on the stump and pulled just a bit too hard before discovering the cause of the resistance.

You guys have it all wrong. The car had a dead battery. Instead of connecting red to red they connected it to black. kaboom. Happens.

Actually, here is what happened, I rented the car in question in Rome about 3-4 years ago, Planted the explosives in the horn button knowing that the car would be stolen and shipped to one of the splodeydope countries. That is where all the Mustang convertibles stolen in LA go, isn't it? Then I waited until today and using my satelite remote control, set off the bomb. I just knew someone important would be in the car.

And you folks think the Jooosss are clever.

Driver: Let me demonstrate, I'm only going to show you how to do this once.

Yusuf HAD to have the latest mobile phone didn't he!

Client: Sol's Mobile Phones and 'Service'

Department: Mossad

Subject: Yusuf Matar

Status: Deceased

Methodology: 2 oz of plastique and detonator switch. Toll-free call with Rollover minutes.

Hardward: New Nokia 6310 (with Call to Allah ringtone enabled)

There's action, baby!

Large IDF forces hunting Hamas in Ramallah

Large IDF forces, including Shin Bet and Special Forces units, have been operating in the West Bank City of Ramallah since the early hours of Monday morning against the city's terrorist network – with special attention being paid to Hamas.

A military source said soldiers launched "a wide operation for arrests" in Ramallah.

Army Radio reports scores of Palestinians arrested and an explosives lab with two –ready-to-wear suicide belts were discovered and destroyed.

An Israeli official, speaking on condition of anonymity, denied the raid was timed to coincide with the signing of the Geneva Accord, which the government opposes and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has called subversive. The official said the raid was part of Israel's "ongoing war on terrorism and not contingent on anything else."

Troops arrived in dozens of jeeps and the sounds of explosions and gunfire were heard in Ramallah's Masyon neighbourhood. There were no reports of injuries to IDF troops.

Palestinian witnesses said dozens of people were arrested, including a Hamas leader, Ghassan Abassi.

The world's most repulsive terrorist remains unharmed, of course.

Cases of molotov cocktails found in Galilee village

I thought they only threw stones, the precious Palestinians.

My vote is still for idiocy-inflicted accidental detonation. Probably not a large amount of explosives, a small bomb belt or mine or couple grens maybe.
It happens on a regular basis, I've read scores of these in the past 3 years.

Not that I wouldn't like to see the IDF dropping precision bombs on terrorist cars, of course!

The Hags of Hell...

75 Mr. SiG

ROFL

#64 Engineer,

from the Jesse Jackson link...

"However some of the speakers were quickly drowned out by boos, bullhorns, and verbal jabs from a group called VOTE, ex-offenders, community activists, church leaders, and Muslims, tired of what they call the rhetoric in the African-American community.

"We are tired of coming here to voice our opinion when we got African-American people sitting at the table and saying they represent our interests and playing this puppet game," said one protester.

Afterwards ABC7's Rob Johnson asked Reverend Jackson why he felt like so much verbal venom was aimed in his direction.

"They lashed out at Dr. King, they lashed out at Nelson Mandela, they lashed out at Jesus, so all of those who fight for change become the object of frustration," said Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rainbow-Push Coalition.

"What has he sacrificed for his beliefs? Us. We've been sacrificed. On the altar of his political ambition our people have been destroyed," said John Johnson, VOTE."

......aaaaarghhhhhhhhhh

Looking at the second pic:

first:there is no blood on the headrest
second: there seems to be a rather large amount of blood on the dash-board just to the right of the steering wheel.

looking at the first pic :

first: There is blood around the left headlight
second: the engine cover is severely damaged and covered with mud/dust.

My best guess would be a camel or donkey-hit and the explosion just a fabrication to make good ole Yussuf into one of those martyr-posters the palestinian kids have hanging in their bedrooms.

Nice detail: it looks like they washed the cars engine-cover for pic 2, there is no more dust but the blood seems to be untouched.

Nothing to see, it's just a Driver's Ed class being conducted by the French Foreign Legion.

If any amount of modern explosive *, even half an ounce, went off inside a car interior it would take out all the windows and mess up the inside.

I think little Yusuf didnt twist the wires on his detonators he was carrying in his pants pocket and static electricity exploded them in close proximity to his body.

Probably bled/shock or haemmoraged to death. Gotta keep these things grounded and earthed in tin-foil till they are needed

* Detonation of RDX or C-4 decomposes to release a variety of gases (notably, nitrogen and carbon oxides). which initially expand at about 26,400 feet per second

Y'think that he could have hit one of them quadruped bomb delivery devices that the esteemed Paleswine "rocket scientists" have cobbled together? (I hear that they are working on a special C4-based donkey feed that makes the donkey into a mobile land-mine factory/dispersement tool, the Abu Boom-Boom Poo-Poo Delivery System (ABBPPDS)).

Uh Oh. Family Guy moment.

"Oh dear. I seem to have spontaneously combusted and now I am on fire." - Peter
"Quite." - Stewey
"Indeed." - Brian
"For the best." - Chris

dang, no secondary charge and explosion? well i guess there's always next time.

Darn I was hoping for the hat tip.

Since there was no helicopters around it is probably caused by:

1. a "work accident"

2. blown up by having an explosive placed in the car with either a timer or was detonated by cell phone.

Either way there are lots of Pali body parts for the ghouls to feast on.

#82 zulubaby

Glad to read of it. I always felt that whenever the Freaks were involved with ceasefire talks among themsleves, the IDF should step up its anti terror activity. The only reason they want a cesefire is when they are getting the spit beat out of them. Never let the enemy off the hook when he is on the run.

The second photo identifies the victim as a security officer. ???

Palestinians gather around the destroyed car of Palestinian security officer Yussef Abu Matar, 36, in the southern Gaza Strip

Ahmed, will you stop with the premature explodations! We're not killing enough Joooos if we explodate prematurely. I know you like to blow stuff up, but this is redic!

Tell me again how this damn bomb works? Oh, press this red button right here... BOOM...

my bad.

[/sarcasm]

in the words of the bully from the "Simpsons"...Ha Ha!
too bad Mr. Arab murderer, looks like you got what you deserved.

#98 vinmachine
Yeah, that's Nelson from the Simpsons.
"Ha Ha"
"Stop endangering yourself. Stop endangering yourself."
lol!

Kinda looks like just an accident to me.
Mustaffa was just toolin along the boulevard in his bad ride, when WHAMO, outta nowhere some donkey cart being chased by the Jooooos slammed into him.

It's obviously the fault of the Jooos.

The crowd is just trying to salvage the 40 pounds of Semtex under the back seat - paleo recylcing program don'cha know.

This gives new meaning to the term "road kill". Maybe it was one of the JSOW's. Being field tested from a B-2 at 60,000 feet. I read that they have 200 and 100 pound warheads, whic would pretty much vaporize a mini-car like that. It looks about right for a homocide bomber suffering from premature evisceration. I had wondered if the IDF was using auto dialers to set off cell-phone fused homocide bombers and I think this shows they are.
919

#79 dbg

The car would never have gone 3-4 minutes in Rome traffic without it's horn being hammered constantly...
Tell us what really happened.

Me thinks someone has a Predator, no sound, sees at night, pinpoint laser sighted targeting. D'oh.

JDAM ain't accurate enough to hit a moving target like a car. Any JDAM, LGB or other missile is going to leave recognisable pieces lying around, so it isn't likly to be that.

It's either a traffic accident (as someones suggested earlier) or a premature detonation of some sort (though it must have been quite small as there isn't much damage to the interior of the car).

I GOT IT!!!

The camel was a MOSSAD infiltrating informist!

Whew. Now I feel better.

(Just hope he got away and didn't leave any incriminating kosher camel chow at the scene....)