A second thread for Governor Bobby Jindal’s answer to the Obama love fest we just witnessed.
UPDATE at 2/24/09 7:39:05 pm:
I’ll bet the volcanologists aren’t happy after that. Jindal threw “volcano monitoring” under the bus. You guys in the Pacific Northwest — no “bailouts” for you!
It was probably the most specific point in his response.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:26:14pm |
I love Bobby Jindal, and it’s a shame that he’s got some baggage that people would/will/do slaughter.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:26:22pm |
What is this, story night?
/get to the point!
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Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:26:41pm |
Can we get to the “hey, this isn’t going to work” part?
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:27:03pm |
we sure don’t need a bio on Jindal…what a joke.
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nyc redneck Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:27:20pm |
his dad made installments to the hospital when he was born.
cool.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:27:35pm |
He sounds like about a 5th grade school teacher. Help us..
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:27:58pm |
Let me tell you a story.
/yep, it’s story night
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alien_mind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:07pm |
he’s no more presidential than Palin.
nice guy, but NEXT!
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:20pm |
Populist enough? “Some bureaucrat came and told ‘im…”
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wee fury Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:24pm |
This sounds like a storybook reading to a 5 year old.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:25pm |
Oh my dear Lord… we have a commie bastard throwing the principles of our founders out the window in populist pap… and this is the defense of it we get?
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:29pm |
I don’t give a damn about your ethnicity or your parents, Bobby. Tell me what you are going to do about fighting Obama’s socialist policies.
Don’t come on and sound like you are trying to sell me a car or re-finance my home.
This is the reason Republicans are in such deep doo-doo…..politicians like Jindal who think they can charm people with stupid anecdotes rather than facts and policy.
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Stuck-in-CA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:29pm |
He talks a little like Al Gore…as if he’s talking to kids. I hate that.
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:41pm |
he sounds like Jack McBrayer from funny or die…this is the new face of the repub party….we are F’ed
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:47pm |
re: #21 jaunte
What age group is he speaking to?
The CNN feed has “facebook” on it, and lots of folks are asking the same question.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:28:57pm |
re: #22 alien_mind
he’s no more presidential than Palin.
nice guy, but NEXT!
At least she’s easy on the eyes…
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:05pm |
It’s been verrrrry peaceful sitting at the tail end of the WND thread.
/guard dog … Nirther “Biff” is still lurking
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summergurl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:08pm |
re: #27 LionOfDixon
I don’t give a damn about your ethnicity or your parents, Bobby. Tell me what you are going to do about fighting Obama’s socialist policies.
Don’t come on and sound like you are trying to sell me a car or re-finance my home.
This is the reason Republicans are in such deep doo-doo…..politicians like Jindal who think they can charm people with stupid anecdotes rather than facts and policy.
Another Huckabee?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:12pm |
If this is all we have to oppose Obama, we are so deep in shit.
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Dahveed Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:15pm |
Next year - Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin. Bobby is a deer in the headlights.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:18pm |
re: #28 Stuck-in-CA
He talks a little like Al Gore…as if he’s talking to kids. I hate that.
Reagan didn’t do that. He talked simply, but to grownups.
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happy_mama Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:21pm |
Part of me wishing that we could have the response by Rush or even Boortz…they’d say what we really want said.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:26pm |
He comes across like one of those cheesy infomercials.
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:31pm |
DOW futures have tumbled 42 points since 10PM EST. Most of the drop happening between 10:09 and 10:13 (26 points).
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:53pm |
re: #34 trailortrash
why is he using a mr,rogers voice?
That is JUST what he is doing…talking down to us.
Shit can this guy.
Pardon my obscene lingo, I am furious!
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:53pm |
re: #28 Stuck-in-CA
He talks a little like Al Gore…as if he’s talking to kids. I hate that.
I said it before: It’s like he’s talking to the Mickey Mouse club. Cubby? Is that you?
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Bob Dillon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:29:59pm |
re: #26 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Oh my dear Lord… we have a commie bastard throwing the principles of our founders out the window in populist pap… and this is the defense of it we get?
“hoping” for fuckinghellfireandbrimstone …
yawn.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:01pm |
re: #39 Alouette
If this is all we have to oppose Obama, we are so deep in shit.
OMG I agree. This is the first time I have heard him speak.
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:13pm |
“And then, my Daddy said…….”
You soon get the sinking feeling that the GOP’s supposedly best and brightest have no clue what to do, either. And that is extremely scary.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:18pm |
Eruption of spending… gaah, this is not a good rejoinder.
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alien_mind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:38pm |
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J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:46pm |
Oh boy. He needs a speech coach…or voice training…
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:48pm |
re: #55 Charles
Volcano monitoring. Under the bus.
I noticed that. Not exactly a program to point out. Might in fact be seismic monitoring. Duhee.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:30:54pm |
re: #49 nyc redneck
is he nervous?
This is how he always sounds.
This is how his ads for Gov sounded.
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:06pm |
re: #55 Charles
Volcano monitoring. Under the bus.
Why would anyone be against monitoring stuff that can kill people?
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:17pm |
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:17pm |
Sarah Palin is a better speaker, and she’s hot.
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nyc redneck Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:26pm |
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snowcrash Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:29pm |
Reminds me of manbearpig telling little children about global warming.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:35pm |
Nuclear power, and drill here…. well, good.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:40pm |
Why do I feel our enemies all over the world are celebrating tonight?
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:45pm |
This is too much…how awful.
We put a boy channeling Mr Rogers to respond to the zero.
shameful.
Who set this up? What the hell is Michael Steele doing?
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:45pm |
It’s not about the volcano monitoring. It’s a dig at science in general.
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happy_mama Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:46pm |
re: #63 Beach Lover
him too - but he’s starting to make me want to hide with the covers over my head…..
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:47pm |
re: #69 Gus 802
“Fer something called magnetic levitation.”
Wait, now he doesn’t believe in magnets?!
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Seax Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:31:50pm |
What is there more politicians speechyfying?
Holy moly feel sorry for you guys…
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:01pm |
I swear to God, if he says “Americans can do anything” just one more time…….
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Moody Leo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:02pm |
re: #24 Charles I remember hearing about that, several boat retailers and builders from up here had shut down shop to go help. So there were a lot of them that snuck around that idiot and rescued people anyway
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:06pm |
re: #71 Alouette
Sarah Palin is a better speaker, and she’s hot.
Ya know… if you squint really hard at Bobby you can almost…
nevermind… doesn’t work.
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FightingBack Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:07pm |
When he hits puberty, his voice will change.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:13pm |
He’s trying to get the message out about conservatism. That is his job tonight. Not to face off with the One. right thinking.
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phillygirl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:16pm |
I’m embarrassed. The Democrats must be dancing in the streets! (Well, in New Orleans they are…)
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:20pm |
re: #84 badtemper
He just did it!
RIght after your post came up!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:20pm |
“If it can be done in Baton Rouge it can be done in DC”
-Uh oh
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Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:21pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:30pm |
re: #68 doppelganglander
Why would anyone be against monitoring stuff that can kill people?
The Democrats have been against monitoring stuff that can kill people for years.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:44pm |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:45pm |
re: #82 doppelganglander
Wait, now he doesn’t believe in magnets?!
No, referring to a proposed maglev train from Las Vegas to Disneyworld. If that is indeed the proposal, it does indeed sound stupid.
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Stuck-in-CA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:47pm |
He should sound ANGRY…like we are. He’s trying to be pleasant. Hey, Bobby…our ship is sinking, how about a little fire in your belly?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:53pm |
“Americans can do anything”
This is a variation of “if we can put a man on the moon, we can achieve world peace” apples and oranges bullshit.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:32:56pm |
re: #95 NJDhockeyfan
The Democrats have been against monitoring stuff that can kill people for years.
Yeah like terrodists
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:09pm |
Who picked this guy to give the response? I know he is supposed to be the GOP wonderkind…..but really? If this is the best we got, look forward to two terms of Obama.
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CurrentConflict Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:11pm |
The Obamanation will move forward one knee in front of the other.
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Right mind left Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:14pm |
Come on, this guy doesn’t promote confidence or inspire me at all.
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Colonel Panik Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:22pm |
re: #97 Occasional Reader
No, referring to a proposed maglev train from Las Vegas to Disneyworld. If that is indeed the proposal, it does indeed sound stupid.
That’s Dingy Harry’s little porkbarrel project.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:28pm |
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:30pm |
re: #87 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Ya know… if you squint really hard at Bobby you can almost…
nevermind… doesn’t work.
They would have to make beer goggles the size of Oklahoma.
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:35pm |
the children of American can do anything…Is this guy stuck or something?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:44pm |
Good grief!
The NO school system is NOT NOT NOT anything to be be touting!
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Buffalo Fats Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:33:55pm |
I told people at work to make sure to watch Jindal.
I’m an idiot.
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:00pm |
I’m beginning to think that Jindal believes that Americans can do anything.
/He’s only delivered that clunker of a phrase a brazillion times
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:03pm |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:15pm |
re: #40 Dahveed
Next year - Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin. Bobby is a deer in the headlights.
Steele, yes, Gingrich, yes. Not so sure about Palin.
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phillygirl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:16pm |
But Bobby, Ray Nagin is still Mayor of New Orleans. So much about getting rid of corruption in Louisiana.
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Parker in US Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:25pm |
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politicalinsomniac Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:29pm |
I like Jindal, but this is not good.
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happy_mama Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:34pm |
We can do anything - unless we’re living in a socialist state…..sigh.
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:34pm |
The news networks must be having a fit at this. He’s their guy. He’s not doing particularly well at all.
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Luigi Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:36pm |
Yes, I can do anything. Right now I’m going to bed.
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:41pm |
re: #40 Dahveed
Next year - Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin. Bobby is a deer in the headlights.
Gingrich is a great speaker, but that giving the wife divorce papers, while she was in the hospital, that will forever doom him. And he’s been out of government for years.
Michael Steele is very good, I’d vote for him, but he’s never been higher than lt. Gov, right? Running the RNC won’t get you to the White house.
Palin is not a quick on her feet thinker.
Jindal, for all his faults, is normally a great speaker(not tonight though) better than Obama even….he’s not toast, by any stretch….
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grahamski Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:41pm |
Meh, They should have had Mitt Romney do the rebuttal …
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RightLogic Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:48pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:54pm |
re: #112 Catttt
They use it all the time on Star Trek.
To go to Vegas?
Let me guess, what’s left of the USA is ruled by Obama’s head in a jar.
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Colonel Panik Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:34:59pm |
Can we trade the Czechs Bobby Jindal for Vaclav Klaus?
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:02pm |
This is like watching your kid at the school play and he really sucks
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:13pm |
re: #113 Buffalo Fats
I told people at work to make sure to watch Jindal.
I’m an idiot.
Funny thing is….I heard some soundbytes the other day and he kicked ass. What happened?
Who gave him the oh-gosh-golly-gee talking points?
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:13pm |
MSM will pick him as GOP candidate for sure. And have a field day
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:15pm |
Sound feed still spotty. I question the timing…
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daledog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:19pm |
re: #68 doppelganglander
Not to mention landslide monitoring and jellyfish monitoring.
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:19pm |
He has the same tone as Al Gore…He sounds like he talking to a group of 7 year old kids.
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Jack Burton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:27pm |
I was afraid to watch or listen to this. Judging from everyone’s reaction it’s a train wreck. Let’s hope this is a blessing in disguise and he goes away.
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Colonel Panik Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:31pm |
re: #134 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
To go to Vegas?
Let me guess, what’s left of the USA is ruled by Obama’s head in a jar.
You’re gonna give me nightmares.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:32pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:34pm |
DAMN, I’m glad I’m not watching Jindal.
Seeing the comments as they fly by is enough to make me barf.
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witness Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:39pm |
re: #132 grahamski
Romney will keep a low profile until 2012. Smartest thing to do.
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rearden888 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:42pm |
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:45pm |
The most uninspiring speech ever, Barry inspired me more.
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jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:45pm |
re: #128 Iron Fist
I guess he hasn’t mastered the art of keeping it simple without appearing to talk down to his audience.
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snowcrash Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:48pm |
Too bad Steele couldnt give the rebuttal. Less folksy.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:49pm |
He talks about principles we share, but didn’t mention a specific.
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:51pm |
re: #55 Charles
Volcano monitoring. Under the bus.
Wasn’t he talking about the amount being spent? Wasn’t it over 100 Million, or am I wrong? Hard to read, listen, and type….
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jamgarr Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:55pm |
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kafir lover Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:57pm |
He reminds me of the ‘page’ character on 30 Rock -
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Beach Lover Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:58pm |
Don’t despair…whp was the last Dem you saw after the SOTU address?
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mattm Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:59pm |
re: #139 badtemper
Funny thing is….I heard some soundbytes the other day and he kicked ass. What happened?
Who gave him the oh-gosh-golly-gee talking points?
I heard him once before and he was great. I’m not sure what happened.
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jonathan1984 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:35:59pm |
So the Democrats are robbing the US blind… and the GOP is sending out this.
We live in interesting times.
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:03pm |
re: #97 Occasional Reader
No, referring to a proposed maglev train from Las Vegas to Disneyworld. If that is indeed the proposal, it does indeed sound stupid.
It is stupid, but the quote here made it sound like he was talking about all that there fancy hocus-pocus stuff with magnets ‘n all. There’s nothing crazy about the technology, as far as I know.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:05pm |
re: #140 Wishing
MSM will pick him as GOP candidate for sure. And have a field day
seems like Jindal will self destruct before that happens.
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:17pm |
I could knock this guy over with a slap in the arm. He does NOT inspire confidence.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:21pm |
re: #133 RightLogic
I wish Reagan was giving this speech.
If we dug him up and put him in front of a microphone it would be more exciting than this.
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Right mind left Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:23pm |
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
Glenn Beck is WAY better at nailing the issues…
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BignJames Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:25pm |
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Stuck-in-CA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:27pm |
As usual Repubs have guys who have substance and can do a good job (like Jindal), but don’t have charisma. The Dems ONLY have charisma and no substance.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:34pm |
re: #154 jaunte
I guess he hasn’t mastered the art of keeping it simple without appearing to talk down to his audience.
Great observation. And correct.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:36pm |
Nope. Not presidential. Thanks for playing. Buh bye!
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:40pm |
re: #120 Occasional Reader
Steele, yes, Gingrich, yes. Not so sure about Palin.
Gingrich’s time came and passed.
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J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:43pm |
re: #140 Wishing
Just imagine the comedians (along with that religious mumbo-jumbo, curing cancer, etc., etc…)
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The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:48pm |
re: #137 Afrocity
This is like watching your kid at the school play and he really sucks
Way too plastic
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The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:50pm |
Is anyone in Louisanna even watching this, since its Mardi Gra.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:51pm |
The volcano monitoring thing was the most specific point in his speech.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:53pm |
re: #147 Colonel Panik
You’re gonna give me nightmares.
Men, my work here is done!
*flips cape over shoulder*
*dives out window in a cheap imitation of flight*
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Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:54pm |
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Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:55pm |
re: #13 Charles
He is young. Thirty six. I remember myself at thirty six.
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:36:57pm |
That’s it? Who wrote this? Warren from There’s Something About Mary?
Jindal brought a butter knife to a gun fight.
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summergurl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:09pm |
re: #153 COconTIME
The most uninspiring speech ever, Barry inspired me more.
What was the inspiration?
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Sancho_Pansa Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:16pm |
The O’S speech too long and boring…….Need a drink…..
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:16pm |
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grahamski Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:17pm |
re: #150 witness
Romney will keep a low profile until 2012. Smartest thing to do.
He would have provide a much stronger case than Bobby.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:19pm |
re: #185 Charles
The volcano monitoring thing was the most specific point in his speech.
It was his fruitfly moment.
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Moody Leo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:23pm |
re: #143 J.S.
He grows on you, after some of the snake oil salesmen we’ve had:::::::, and at least at the end he sounded more sincere than Obama
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:26pm |
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Colonel Panik Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:27pm |
re: #167 doppelganglander
It is stupid, but the quote here made it sound like he was talking about all that there fancy hocus-pocus stuff with magnets ‘n all. There’s nothing crazy about the technology, as far as I know.
No there’s nothing stupid about the tech, just about how they want to apply it.
I’d put it in a major workaday regional commute corridor first if you going to build such a thing.
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:29pm |
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Buffalo Fats Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:33pm |
At least Palin is easy on the eyes.
She motivates me….. below the waist.
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jelo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:39pm |
Who chose this guy for the rebuttal?
Palin would have been the/my obvious choice….just to ratchet it up a little…… Hillary sitting on the bench in silence and Palin on prime time.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:45pm |
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RightLogic Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:48pm |
re: #172 NJDhockeyfan
If we dug him up and put him in front of a microphone it would be more exciting than this.
Just a picture of him (Reagan) with “God Bless America” playing over and over again for 10 minutes would be more stirring.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:37:55pm |
That was the first concession speech of the 2012 election.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:01pm |
re: #185 Charles
The volcano monitoring thing was the most specific point in his speech.
Volcano monitoring has been 100% effective since Mt. St. Helens.
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:01pm |
Jindal would be the perfect character for a Coen Brothers movie. He looks like Ben Kingsley but sounds like H.I. McDunnugh.
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:03pm |
re: #180 OldLineTexan
Gingrich’s time came and passed.
I dunno. He may not be able to stand the pressures of campaigning, but he could debate the crap of any democrat I can think of.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:03pm |
I miss President Bush so much. I’m not sleeping so well lately
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nfbjude14 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:05pm |
That was disappointing. All day my boss and I waited for this rebuttal, and I believe he’ll be as bummed as I am.
I agree with the Mr. Rogers sentiment. And Brit Hume is right on.
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jetprop Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:09pm |
Started off slow, but I like what he’s saying.
He appeals to the fiscal conservative in me.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:12pm |
I’m now glad we gave him this spot to talk to the nation. I think he just killed his chances in 2012 with that speech.
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Parker in US Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:15pm |
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Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:20pm |
re: #48 badtemper
I said it before: It’s like he’s talking to the Mickey Mouse club. Cubby? Is that you?
Well, maybe he’s trying to talk to the Mickey Mouse club that voted Obama into office….
Trying hard to find some crumb of possibility that Jindal’s Mr. Rogers performance might change some minds for the better. But I fear it’s more likely to do the opposite. Sigh.
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grahamski Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:29pm |
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Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:31pm |
re: #223 Sharmuta
I’m now glad we gave him this spot to talk to the nation. I think he just killed his chances in 2012 with that speech.
See, there’s always a bright side.
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:36pm |
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:39pm |
re: #155 Buffalo Fats
We need a Bull Moose Party or something.
That particular Teddy is dead. It’s been a shame for decades, now.
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mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:41pm |
Too damn funny… he end with “Americans can do anything.”
The talking heads of Fox are saying the speech was much better on paper than he dlivered it.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:45pm |
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:56pm |
re: #223 Sharmuta
I’m now glad we gave him this spot to talk to the nation. I think he just killed his chances in 2012 with that speech.
w00t!
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:56pm |
re: #223 Sharmuta
I’m now glad we gave him this spot to talk to the nation. I think he just killed his chances in 2012 with that speech.
Agree Sharm, now we can move on to find a REAL candidate.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:38:58pm |
Okay, let me be fair. We can’t choose leaders based on speeches. I will not vote for Jindal but Obama has set the bar high for presence.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:03pm |
Wow, Fox pundits are trashing him, even.
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Attaboid Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:03pm |
re: #223 Sharmuta
I’m now glad we gave him this spot to talk to the nation. I think he just killed his chances in 2012 with that speech.
I hope.
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:07pm |
Hey Jindal, why don’t you and McCain have a contest to see who can make the fastest beeline to paste their lips upon the ass of the annointed?
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Buffalo Fats Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:28pm |
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Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:30pm |
He lost me when he said monitoring volcanoes was dumb. Tell that to people in the West. At least we don’t have to worry about ID possibly not sinking him.
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witness Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:52pm |
re: #199 grahamski
By 2012 our country will be in such bad shape anyone conservative will have a shot. Its more a matter of avoiding gaffs until then. Too much air time and the public will be bored with you. Stay low and wait for the right moment.
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J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:54pm |
re: #202 Moody Leo
I’m afraid that he’d be shredded — chewed up and spit out — by every MSM outlet out there…every would-be comedian would have a field day (he’d be the brunt of on-going cruel jokes, etc, etc.)
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:39:56pm |
re: #228 Last Mohican
See, there’s always a bright side.
This is a bright spot! That was…. not good. I don’t think he impressed anyone tonight with why he should be a front runner. That was terrible.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:12pm |
He wasn’t even speaking to HIS audience. It failed to convince and failed to rally.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:15pm |
If this is what a future debate will look like, then 2012 is a sure disaster.
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trailortrash Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:15pm |
lol they are just trashing him now hahaha
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lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:21pm |
re: #219 Nevergiveup
I miss President Bush so much. I’m not sleeping so well lately
Hell, I’m starting to miss Carter.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:21pm |
Krauthammer not impressed.
Juan Williams not impressed.
Me not impressed.
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rawmuse Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:27pm |
Holy crap, remind me to never run for public office (again).
You guys are vicious…
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Dasher Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:28pm |
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daledog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:33pm |
re: #79 Charles
How so?
There is only so much money to go around. Do all science projects get funded? Is one anti-science if one questions any science funding? John McCain has criticized some defense spending. Is he then anti-military? Give me a break.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:34pm |
I don’t think it could have been any awfuller than that.
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badtemper Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:39pm |
You know it’s time to turn it off when I’m agreeing with Juan Williams.
‘Night all….
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:48pm |
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nfbjude14 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:49pm |
Juan Williams spot on again. Perhaps if Fox stuck with Williams and Hume they would have legitimacy again.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:40:50pm |
re: #251 Gus 802
He wasn’t even speaking to HIS audience. It failed to convince and failed to rally.
It failed to inspire and it attacked science.
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The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:06pm |
I doubt no one will be talking about Bobby Jindal for president for quite some time. Not to Palin. Learn from his mistakes.
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Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:10pm |
Bobby J was just exorcising his freedom of speech.
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allan5oh Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:11pm |
re: #27 LionOfDixon
This is the reason Republicans are in such deep doo-doo…..politicians like Jindal who think they can charm people with stupid anecdotes rather than facts and policy.
You mean like Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper?
Pretty damn good interview I thought. A little elitist, but not too bad.
| 268 |
Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:23pm |
Alouette,
Volcano monitoring has been 100% effective since Mt. St. Helens.
Yeah. If the Yellowstone Caldera is about to erupt and cover the states west of the Mississippi under five feet of ash, I’d kinda like to know.
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:36pm |
Now if we can just get the MSM to report how retarded this man is we might just end up with a better candidate come 2012…..who are we kidding this guy is going to get destroyed in four years….count the days
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:36pm |
re: #263 Sharmuta
It failed to inspire and it attacked science.
I’m just not getting the “attacked science” thing here, frankly.
But yes, it was a poor performance.
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JacksonTn Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:36pm |
There will be someone to come to the front of the line and take Obama on …Jindal is not it … so maybe it is good he is showing that now …instead of people hoping he is the one …Obama may do himself in …
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:41pm |
Juan Williams said the word ‘lackluster’. Pretty much sums it up.
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yesandno Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:51pm |
Oh great …
David Axel-prod……
Goofy looking man, no polish at all….
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:54pm |
re: #263 Sharmuta
It failed to inspire and it attacked science.
It did. With the volcano and mag-lev comment.
What about the “golf carts” and other things in porkulus?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:41:55pm |
re: #256 rawmuse
Holy crap, remind me to never run for public office (again).
You guys are vicious…
LOL!
I sat on a non-partisan board for a decade.
People tried to get me to run for “higher” office.
I kept my replies out of the realm of the scatalogical.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:08pm |
re: #268 Dirk Diggler
Alouette,
Yeah. If the Yellowstone Caldera is about to erupt and cover the states west of the Mississippi under five feet of ash, I’d kinda like to know.
How close are you?
| 279 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:08pm |
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:19pm |
re: #204 Colonel Panik
No there’s nothing stupid about the tech, just about how they want to apply it.
I’d put it in a major workaday regional commute corridor first if you going to build such a thing.
That would make sense, someplace like the Boston-NY-Washington corridor. But really, if Amtrak can’t break even, I can’t imagine how a mag-lev system that costs billions to build would ever pay for itself.
| 283 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:24pm |
Ted Nugent is starting to look viable.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:28pm |
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HoosierHoops Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:29pm |
re: #259 reine.de.tout
I don’t think it could have been any awfuller than that.
{Reine} Happy Birthday! And many many returns!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:30pm |
Axelrod == Dickhead.
Just so nobody gets confused.
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:36pm |
re: #270 COconTIME
Now if we can just get the MSM to report how retarded this man is we might just end up with a better candidate come 2012…..who are we kidding this guy is going to get destroyed in four years….count the days
Hopefully, GOP leadership watched this closely and realize the guy is an anchor on the neck of the party.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:47pm |
re: #275 Gus 802
It did. With the volcano and mag-lev comment.
Volcanoes, maybe. Maglev TO DISNEYWORLD? That’s a legit jab.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:53pm |
re: #255 Charles
Krauthammer not impressed.
Juan Williams not impressed.
Me not impressed.
He is only 37. That is a baby in the political arena.
I don’t think he is ready
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Moody Leo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:53pm |
re: #249 J.S.
oh I know unfortunately, worst speech hes given, and no I am not at Mardi Gras esp in NOLA. Those people in French Quarter are nuts. I go to the tamer parades up here in NW La
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Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:42:55pm |
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Buffalo Fats Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:17pm |
Rush pegged Jindal as the next Reagan.
Wonder what he’ll say tomorrow…
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:18pm |
There really are some bad signs in the Pacific Northwest, volcano-wise. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to single that out, and it’s such a relatively small issue — why pick it out of all the other questionable projects?
Reminded me of Sarah Palin’s “fruit flies in Paris, France” comment.
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Jack Burton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:20pm |
re: #196 COconTIME
Bueller…Bueller
Since we had to let a creationist give the speech, maybe Ben Stein would have been better.
In 2009 the democrat controlled house of representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the… anyone? anyone? the Greater Depression, passed the… anyone? anyone? the stimulus package. The Obama stimulus bill which… anyone raised or lowered? anyone? anyone? raised taxes in order to generate revenue for the federal government. Can anyone tell me the effects of this? anyone? anyone? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Greater Depression.
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The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:23pm |
I suppose that a good move right now. To, you know, mooch off the system would be to start a research company and apply for govt grants to do resarch. I will start with a thermometer in my back yard. I’ll then take data directly off the internet. Get creative with it and submit reports. Does anyone know if it works that way?
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Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:23pm |
re: #269 Afrocity
we have a lot of work ahead of us guys.
I think we need to change our expectations.
Maybe we can cut some sort of a deal with the PUMAs. Make Hillary the GOP nominee in 2012. We’ll all vote for her, they’ll all vote for her.
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Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:28pm |
One thing’s for sure - he lost the Republicans the volcano monitor vote.
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jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:39pm |
re: #282 Iron Fist
As a lousy speaker myself, I know how hard it is to find the right balance.
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Jim in Virginia Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:47pm |
Jim Geraghty at NRO:
We are not quitters, says the guy who left the Senate before serving a full term.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:47pm |
BTW, Charles … Hamsters are doing a superb job!
Kudos to your software!
(and the bigger server)
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Dasher Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:53pm |
I liked what Jindal had to say. And it was not dull. It was delivered fine.
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mattm Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:53pm |
re: #294 Buffalo Fats
Rush pegged Jindal as the next Reagan.
Wonder what he’ll say tomorrow…
He could be. Just not now.
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Cognito Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:43:54pm |
re: #287 Wishing
Hopefully, GOP leadership watched this closely and realize the guy is an anchor on the neck of the party.
There’s an easy solution, and it’s not more bellyaching.
People will vote for the best candidate put forth.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:01pm |
re: #288 Occasional Reader
Volcanoes, maybe. Maglev TO DISNEYWORLD? That’s a legit jab.
Well, yes and no. Perhaps if we looked into the details. However, my argument is that there are other parts of porkulus that would have made more sense to point out.
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Jack Burton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:05pm |
re: #294 Buffalo Fats
Rush pegged Jindal as the next Reagan.
Wonder what he’ll say tomorrow…
Hopefully “my bad, sorry”
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CurrentConflict Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:08pm |
When in a communist country bootleging, blackmarket and underground are to be encouraged. Could be fun. Time to raise the black flag.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:19pm |
re: #299 Afrocity
Oh god not the focus group
Shoot your television.
Actually, just turn it off, like I did mine.
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The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:19pm |
re: #283 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Ted Nugent is starting to look viable.
You sir, speak the words of truth.
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Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:34pm |
re: #307 Cognito
There’s an easy solution, and it’s not more bellyaching.
People will vote for the best candidate put forth.
Ha!
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ciaospirit Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:35pm |
One of the reasons Jindal was chosen is skin color. They didn’t want a white guy trashing the black guy’s speech.
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jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:36pm |
re: #300 Catttt
One thing’s for sure - he lost the Republicans the volcano monitor vote.
That’s the western U.S., pretty much.
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:42pm |
re: #287 Wishing
Hopefully, GOP leadership watched this closely and realize the guy is an anchor on the neck of the party.
GOP:
“But…but…but he’s young, and he’s a minority, and he’s…not at all well spoken…lets give him a try!”
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LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:43pm |
It was like watching crap call feces a turd.
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JacksonTn Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:44pm |
re: #308 snowcrash
Is the rebuttal always made by a Governor?
I don’t know but I think Bob Dole did it once …and he was a terrible speaker …
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:45pm |
re: #305 Dasher
I liked what Jindal had to say. And it was not dull. It was delivered fine.
Up the dosage, son.
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Buffalo Fats Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:49pm |
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brandon13 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:51pm |
re: #305 Dasher
I liked what Jindal had to say. And it was not dull. It was delivered fine.
Well, the majority here disagrees on the delivery. I thought the delivery was horrible.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44:53pm |
re: #286 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Axelrod == Dickhead.
Just so nobody gets confused.
Emanuel and Axelrod.
/Dickhead One and Dickhead Two
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Dasher Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:07pm |
re: #295 Charles
There really are some bad signs in the Pacific Northwest, volcano-wise. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to single that out, and it’s such a relatively small issue — why pick it out of all the other questionable projects?
Reminded me of Sarah Palin’s “fruit flies in Paris, France” comment.
It did not belong in the stimulus package. Congress has many ways to fund science — the stimulus bill should not be one of the ways.
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vrwc007 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:09pm |
If this is the Republican answer to B0, then close the door and turn off the lights the USA is over.
| 327 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:10pm |
re: #295 Charles
It was like he was desperate to prove you correct.
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yesandno Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:13pm |
And remember….Jihdal is the Gov. of Louisianna….
They couldn’t get themselves out of the way of the hurricane despite the warnings. Maybe that is how you have to speak to all of them….like they are a few bead short of a Mardi Gras float…
| 329 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:14pm |
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Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:20pm |
This reminds me a bit about a debate I attended between Al Gore and Kemp years ago, when I was a Democrat (I paid good money to attend the debate unfortunately; I could use it today).
Al Gore, no favorite of mine any more, slaughtered Kemp and the funniest thing was listening to Buchanan afterward calling for Kemp to be thrown out of the party.
Sorry for the levity.
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Bobblehead Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:22pm |
re: #283 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Ted Nugent is starting to look viable.
And a damned fine candidate he would be!
| 332 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:30pm |
re: #308 snowcrash
No, didn’t Obama make one after a Dubya SOTU?
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NukeAtomrod Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:33pm |
re: #213 The_Vig
Bobby Jindal brings up Katrina more than Guillani brings up 911.
He’s walking on sunshine.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:47pm |
re: #311 CurrentConflict
When in a communist country bootleging, blackmarket and underground are to be encouraged. Could be fun. Time to raise the black flag.
WooHoo! We’re all going on Phish tour!
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J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:52pm |
re: #295 Charles
His comments about the volcano monitoring was in the same context as the “magnetic” cars in Disneyland (?) or something along those lines, as if these were just outlandishly foolish, fantastical things..
| 336 |
Bob Dillon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:45:57pm |
re: #246 vrwc007
It’s going to be a very bad 8 years.
After the performances of these two tonight (and 0s supporting cast)
I would bet here are a great number of folks in foreign lands rubbing their hands in glee and licking their chops.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:00pm |
re: #298 Last Mohican
I think we need to change our expectations.
Maybe we can cut some sort of a deal with the PUMAs. Make Hillary the GOP nominee in 2012. We’ll all vote for her, they’ll all vote for her.
The PUMAS will not go for Jindal. No way in hell.
Palin/Steele is you only hope with them.
| 339 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:19pm |
Maybe we could harness the volcanoes for alternative energy! To run the maglev trains!
Anyway, good night.
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BGOH Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:20pm |
Charles, I hate to call you out on your home turf, but I think you are reading a bit much into the “volcano monitoring” reference. I could be mistaken I’ll admit, but it seemed to me that he was talking about funding volcano research as part of an economic stimulus package. If I’m right, that statement does not serve as a condemnation of the scientific value that geologists provide, but rather as a condemnation of it’s value in helping to grow the economy. You and I share a problem with Jindal’s support of creationism in Louisiana, but I think you are letting your mind run a bit here.
That wasn’t the greatest rebuttal speech that I have ever heard, but if you want to know how bad it wasn’t, think back to when Kathleen Sebilius gave the response a year or two ago. That, my friends, was downright hideous.
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pink freud Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:29pm |
re: #328 yesandno
And remember….Jihdal is the Gov. of Louisianna….
They couldn’t get themselves out of the way of the hurricane despite the warnings. Maybe that is how you have to speak to all of them….like they are a few bead short of a Mardi Gras float…
Tread softly there, yesandno
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:29pm |
I seem to recall Clinton being derisively cheered at the Dem 1988 convention when he said, in conclusion….That sure ended his career.
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tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:34pm |
re: #324 Killian Bundy
So easy to believe that Aaron Sorkin actually based two of his West Wing characters on both of those.
Probably after a particularly potent line.
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lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:38pm |
re: #315 ciaospirit
One of the reasons Jindal was chosen is skin color. They didn’t want a white guy trashing the black guy’s speech.
Also why they didn’t put Steele out there. I can see the posts on Kos now: “See? We have a black guy, too!”
| 345 |
rawmuse Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:42pm |
re: #325 Dasher
It did not belong in the stimulus package. Congress has many ways to fund science — the stimulus bill should not be one of the ways.
Along with about 500 other things that did not belong in the package. Compensating Filipino veterans may be a noble cause, but in no way does it stimulate to US economy to pay them 200 mil.
| 347 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:52pm |
re: #337 Afrocity
The PUMAS will not go for Jindal. No way in hell.
Palin/Steele is you only hope with them.
Palin Steele! Almost as good as Nugent Santelli!
| 348 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:46:54pm |
re: #218 badtemper
I dunno. He may not be able to stand the pressures of campaigning, but he could debate the crap of any democrat I can think of.
Newt will NOT “resonate” in this new shallow age.
And he has enemies who are yet in power.
I honestly think we are in for the Israelite treatment … a generation will have to pass away in the desert.
| 351 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:09pm |
re: #283 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Ted Nugent is starting to look viable.
No he isn’t he’s crazy. A madman I tell ya.
| 352 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:17pm |
re: #301 jaunte
As a lousy speaker myself, I know how hard it is to find the right balance.
But do you know when to shut up?
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The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:19pm |
Really though, what could any republican say after that speach. The only thing that could upstage it would be something really off the wall…..like Republicans demanding a huge space progam or the demand for a legalization of Marijuana.
| 354 |
mattm Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:23pm |
re: #326 vrwc007
If this is the Republican answer to B0, then close the door and turn off the lights the USA is over.
It’s too early to get that depressed. Steele is in so hopefully they will het their act tougher for 2010 and rind the success into 2012 going after 0bamas failures.
| 356 |
Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:28pm |
Nevergiveup,
Alouette,Yeah. If the Yellowstone Caldera is about to erupt and cover the states west of the Mississippi under five feet of ash, I’d kinda like to know.
How close are you?
I’m in Texas but that’s still too close. Hell if the Yelowstone Caldera erupts people in Toronto will be too close.
| 357 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:36pm |
Hiltler was a great speaker, Thomas Jefferson was not.
This countries future will be decided by the better actor.
And the Oscar goes to…..
| 358 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:41pm |
Here it is from the bill:
‘‘Surveys, Investigations, and Research’’, $200,000,000, for repair and restoration of facilities; equipment replacement and upgrades including stream gages, and seismic and volcano monitoring systems; national map activities; and other critical deferred maintenance and improvement projects…
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Bobblehead Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:47:43pm |
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formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:04pm |
re: #337 Afrocity
To be honest, Pumas won’t go for anyone with an R.
I think the last election showed it was hyped pretty good during the last election, but when it came out in the wash, it never materialized.
Too many favors, too many pay backs.
| 362 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:12pm |
re: #337 Afrocity
Don’t you think that the PUMAs are at least somewhat pacified by SecSt Clinton? Or do they have fantasies of HRC beating BHO out for the ‘12 nomination?
| 363 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:25pm |
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Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:30pm |
re: #325 Dasher
Even if it belongs in an appropriations bill, it’s a legitimate and necessary expense for USGS to monitor volcanic activity. There are plenty more egregious pork projects to call out than this.
| 365 |
jelo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:33pm |
fuck frank luntz and his focus groups…what a sham/scam/spam….
| 366 |
Crimsonfisted Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:35pm |
re: #357 Sheepdogess
Hiltler was a great speaker, Thomas Jefferson was not.
This countries future will be decided by the better actor.
And the Oscar goes to…..
You know, I am sick of that. I miss…
…And the WINNER is…
Because THAT is what it is!
| 368 |
Maui Girl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:48:42pm |
Seeing as how a large group of uneducated, easily misguided and gullible people elected Obama perhaps Jindal felt he needed to speak to us like we’re a bunch of school children. Makes perfect sense to me.
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Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:03pm |
re: #357 Sheepdogess
Hiltler was a great speaker, Thomas Jefferson was not.
This countries future will be decided by the better actor.
And the Oscar goes to…..
So we need to find a smart conservative actor.
| 370 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:13pm |
So the Bonkeys are going to send Obama another $450 billion spending bill with 9000 earmarks, before they start on the actual budget.
/and Axelrod says that’s okay, but just this one last time
| 371 |
NukeAtomrod Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:15pm |
Let’s cap some CO2 emissions by placing a giant glass dome over Mt. Pinatubo. Then, maybe we can have enough energy to survive without eating cold dog food in adobe huts.
| 372 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:16pm |
He said 200,000,000. So that doesn’t fact check.
Woops!
| 373 |
doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:19pm |
re: #365 jelo
fuck frank luntz and his focus groups…what a sham/scam/spam….
They brought bank Luntz’s Dunces? Where does he find people that stupid?
| 374 |
rawmuse Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:24pm |
| 376 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:30pm |
Reading the comments above, at least I have comfort in knowing that I’m in the right place, if nothing else.
I said fuck this and turned off the TV at the volcano bit.
| 377 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:38pm |
Personally, I am sick to death of al of these folksy tales of inspiration or woe. Just tell me what the hell you think is wrong and how your’e gonna fix it. Don’t give me bullshit stories I can’t identify with, don’t try to make me cry with pity or joy. Just lay your cards on the table and let me know what the hell you want to do.
That’s what Reagan did and that’s why he is loved.
| 378 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:47pm |
re: #360 formercorpsman
To be honest, Pumas won’t go for anyone with an R.
I think the last election showed it was hyped pretty good during the last election, but when it came out in the wash, it never materialized.
Too many favors, too many pay backs.
Sorry I am a PUMA that is not true.
They are not going for Obama.
But will do Steele or Palin.
It was not hyped. If the conservatives who sat out had showed up maybe McCain would have won.
| 379 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:49pm |
re: #369 Catttt
So we need to find a smart conservative actor.
I don’t know…that’s never been tried before.
/
| 380 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:49:58pm |
For those without cable, Jindal’s speech will be here a little later.
cspan.org
| 381 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:50:04pm |
re: #362 tradewind
Don’t you think that the PUMAs are at least somewhat pacified by SecSt Clinton? Or do they have fantasies of HRC beating BHO out for the ‘12 nomination?
Nobody ever runs against an incumbent from their own party, right? It’s bad form.
| 382 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:50:05pm |
re: #373 doppelganglander
They brought bank Luntz’s Dunces? Where does he find people that stupid?
The Pillsbury doughboy of talking head TV. /meow
| 383 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:50:21pm |
re: #380 HelloDare
For those without cable, Jindal’s speech will be here a little later.
[Link: www.cspan.org…]
In case you’re having trouble falling asleep.
| 388 |
COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:50:52pm |
re: #353 The_Vig
Really though, what could any republican say after that speach. The only thing that could upstage it would be something really off the wall…..like Republicans demanding a huge space progam or the demand for a legalization of Marijuana.
Maybe something along the lines of “lower corp taxes will increase the amount of jobs for the millions of college students that BHO so desperately wants to create”
or how about “it may not be popular but those companies that make private jets…they employ thousands of middle class americans”
or heaven forbid “if we are going to reduce our dependance on foreign oil we are going to have to drill and explore more within our own borders”
maybe something like that.
| 389 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:13pm |
re: #386 rawmuse
The audio sure was wonky for Jindal.
Probably Dem hackers jamming - I thought I heard evil cackling in the background. /
| 390 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:17pm |
re: #362 tradewind
Don’t you think that the PUMAs are at least somewhat pacified by SecSt Clinton? Or do they have fantasies of HRC beating BHO out for the ‘12 nomination?
No. HRC will not run against BO in 2012.
Palin/Steele
or they will go green party
They are not keen on Jindal and womens rights.
| 391 |
Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:18pm |
re: #368 Maui Girl
Seeing as how a large group of uneducated, easily misguided and gullible people elected Obama perhaps Jindal felt he needed to speak to us like we’re a bunch of school children. Makes perfect sense to me.
Kinda insulting to our intelligence, too. The RNC needs to put this toy back in the box.
| 393 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:27pm |
re: #386 rawmuse
The audio sure was wonky for Jindal.
That was Satan..maybe he should have had the arch bishop do an exorcisim before hand.
| 394 |
Dasher Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:29pm |
re: #382 Catttt
The Pillsbury doughboy of talking head TV. /meow
How do you think we got Obama for POTUS
| 395 |
mike(in)savage Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:30pm |
| 396 |
mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:35pm |
re: #266 allan5oh
This is the reason Republicans are in such deep doo-doo…..politicians like Jindal who think they can charm people with stupid anecdotes rather than facts and policy.
You mean like Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper?
[Link: www.cnbc.com…]
Pretty damn good interview I thought. A little elitist, but not too bad.
I actually like Harper a lot… and the fact that my far lefty mother (whom I love dearly) can’t stomach the sight of him makes me like him even more.
| 397 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:38pm |
re: #374 rawmuse
Gary Sinise
I guess if Bedtime for Bonzo didn’t sink Reagan, Lt. Dan couldn’t hurt Sinise.
| 398 |
brandon13 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:40pm |
re: #386 rawmuse
The audio sure was wonky for Jindal.
He would’ve been better off had the audio cut out completely.
| 399 |
unclassifiable Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:51pm |
re: #32 unclassifiable
Well this pretty much sinks him.
I went away for a moment but I wanted to explain.
I know you can’t be a governor, senator, congressman, or president without having something going for you.
None the less we really needed an adult tonight and we got Mr. Happy.
| 400 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:51:56pm |
re: #369 Catttt
So we need to find a smart conservative actor.
I think I’ve got it.
We need Denzel Washington.
| 401 |
yesandno Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:04pm |
| 403 |
cronus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:11pm |
I’ve got my problems with Jindal, but I don’t think the he even approached the elementary school speech contest that was the Tim Kaine response.
| 404 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:19pm |
Greta’ s FOX focus group are not buying O. “No specifics”, “not encouraging us to save”. So, nice delivery, except for the peanut gallery, but, still, “where’s the beef?”
| 405 |
The_Vig Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:20pm |
re: #388 COconTIME
Maybe something along the lines of “lower corp taxes will increase the amount of jobs for the millions of college students that BHO so desperately wants to create”
or how about “it may not be popular but those companies that make private jets…they employ thousands of middle class americans”
or heaven forbid “if we are going to reduce our dependance on foreign oil we are going to have to drill and explore more within our own borders”
maybe something like that.
So, Palin then next Republican response?
| 406 |
itellu3times Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:22pm |
Just for the record, people have been talking about a high-speed rail link from LA to Vegas for fifty years. A train to Anaheim would meet the Metrolink that would pick up people from San Diego to downtown LA to the west valley, with feeders from the rest of Los Angeles. It’s not a bad idea, if you’re looking for make-work. OTOH, maglev would be all new technology, not a lot of shovels, nor ready to go. Ton of money would have to go for the right of way. I’m sure it’s not the worst thing in the porkulus menu.
For the rest of my reaction to Jindal, … what y’all said: blah, and gah.
| 407 |
Silvergirl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:33pm |
re: #78 Wishing
This is too much…how awful.
We put a boy channeling Mr Rogers to respond to the zero.
shameful.
Who set this up? What the hell is Michael Steele doing?
Auditioning Jindal? Weeding him out now rather than later?
| 408 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:34pm |
Looks like everyone is buying into President Clinton’s message that they should stop being so doom and gloom like they were previously.
| 409 |
Bobblehead Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:40pm |
| 410 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:46pm |
re: #381 Last Mohican
Nobody ever runs against an incumbent from their own party, right? It’s bad form.
Nobody runs against a successful incumbent.
Reagan ran against Ford in 1976 (and nearly won).
A bunch of Dems ran against Carter in 1980 (including Ted Kennedy).
| 411 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:52:57pm |
re: #390 Afrocity
He killed his chances tonight, imo. No one’s going for this guy after tonight except the DI types.
| 413 |
teleskiguy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:04pm |
“Volcano” by The Presidents of The United States of America
Under the island… middle of a mountain
There is a big bad… boomin’ system
Blowin’ speakers… woofers and tweeters
Amplifiers… melted wires
The parties exploded… the core is corroded
Under ground… the Puget Sound
Cause a shiftin’… and a drifin’
Big black boom box…stuck in the hot rock
It’s in there flowin’… it’s in there growin’
You don’t believe me… that this scenery
Could be a cold blooded killer
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
Now the island is shiftin’… the plates are liftin’
The core is creamy…docile and dreamy
Stopped up and steamy
Happy campers… poop in there pampers
When the mountain… becomes a fountain
Of white hot lava… molten magna
Super sonic… plate techtonics
Stero phonic… lava and tonic
The boom is bionic
Sony shut down… magnavox meltdown
Ballistic breakdown
Hi-fi heatwave… lo-fi lava cave
That sulfur smells… Mt St Helens
Pompeii was yellin’…
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
It’s gonna blow… Volcano
| 414 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:12pm |
re: #381 Last Mohican
You’re right. I just wonder if they secretly wish he’d screw up so HRC could run, or are they happy that she is SecState.
She makes a good one, IMO. So far, anyway. Inspires much more confidence than Obama.
| 416 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:16pm |
Why is everyone complaining about audio? Don’t you people have cable?
| 417 |
Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:20pm |
I think we can all agree that the next Republican candidate had better be prepared to do more than utter mealy mouthed, feel good platitudes and play identity politics.
That approach just doesn’t work for our side.
| 418 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:28pm |
re: #378 Afrocity
If memory serves me, I don’t think the hyperbole panned out in the result.
If you really look at honestly, for how close the election was anyway, under the circumstances, Obama should have had a landslide.
Personally, I am tired of identity politics. I want someone who actually wants to uphold the Constitution, get away from gerrymandering, and makes a smaller government.
Playing to special interest groups in either camp, makes this very difficult.
| 419 |
doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:30pm |
re: #374 rawmuse
Gary Sinise
I like him, but he’d have to scale back his show business career and move into politics soon to be ready even for 2012. Reagan was a governor and hadn’t been primarily an actor for years before he was elected in 1980.
| 420 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:39pm |
re: #404 Picayune
Greta’ s FOX focus group are not buying O. “No specifics”, “not encouraging us to save”. So, nice delivery, except for the peanut gallery, but, still, “where’s the beef?”
President O’s speeches are the Chinese food of speeches.
| 421 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:41pm |
Geoscience-Related Investments in the Stimulus Package
USGS –The USGS will receive $140 million. The Conference Report indicates that “The Survey should consider a wide variety of activities, including repair, construction and restoration of facilities; equipment replacement and upgrades including stream gages, seismic and volcano monitoring systems; national map activities; and other critical deferred-maintenance and improvement projects which can maximize jobs and provide lasting improvement to our Nation’s science capacity.”
Well I guess unless you live where there aren’t any rivers, streams, mountains, volcanoes, earthquakes or tides then this shouldn’t matter to you.
| 422 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:52pm |
Stay tuned: Greta’s Fox focus group to review Jindal - after the break!
| 423 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:57pm |
re: #407 Silvergirl
Auditioning Jindal? Weeding him out now rather than later?
I can only pray that you are correct. This guy is a sure loser.
| 424 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:53:58pm |
re: #395 mike(in)savage
How you doin’?
Better now that I am here. I am conservative. I love them but it got a bit too liberal for me. They will support a GOP candidate in 2012 if it is the right one.
Doesn’t have to be a RINO. They are for the woman solution. Run Palin and they will vote for her.
| 425 |
COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:04pm |
re: #405 The_Vig
So, Palin then next Republican response?
Dear god NO!
Bipartisan be damned, they need to spend the next four years finding/creating a BHO slayer.
| 426 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:06pm |
Meanwhile back in Detroit, a whopping 9% of the eligible voters showed up to vote in the Primary election to replace Kwame Kilpatrick.
| 427 |
NukeAtomrod Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:07pm |
re: #353 The_Vig
Really though, what could any republican say after that speach. The only thing that could upstage it would be something really off the wall…..like Republicans demanding a huge space progam or the demand for a legalization of Marijuana.
How’s about: “Hell NO! This stupid plan will bankrupt what’s left of the economy. And for what? Nothing. Because the government won’t be able to afford to help any of you.”
| 428 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:10pm |
| 430 |
mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:28pm |
re: #304 pre-Boomer Marine brat
BTW, Charles … Hamsters are doing a superb job!
Kudos to your software!
(and the bigger server)
Yeah… this is the first time I’ve logged on during an high profile speech and not had trouble on the site. Great job Charles.
| 431 |
Irish Rose Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:29pm |
As if O’Bambis’ speech was not nauseating enough.
I’m also sitting here staring at the raspberry Paczki with white icing that I can’t eat, because I can’t even swallow water without gagging.
Time for cranky sickos to go to bed… nite, all.
| 432 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:35pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
Geoscience-Related Investments in the Stimulus Package
Well I guess unless you live where there aren’t any rivers, streams, mountains, volcanoes, earthquakes or tides then this shouldn’t matter to you.
There it is again but the passed version. Thanks.
| 433 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:41pm |
re: #425 COconTIME
Dear god NO!
Bipartisan be damned, they need to spend the next four years finding/creating a BHO slayer.
Yep, preferably someone who actually has a pair…
| 434 |
Randall Gross Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:48pm |
The volcanoe thing is a standard Republican swipe against scientific research, and has the added benefit of sucking some dollars out of Sarah Palin turf if he succeeds in shooting it down.
| 435 |
itellu3times Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:52pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
We need research to determine whether volcanoes cause unicorns, or vice-versa.
| 436 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:53pm |
re: #420 Catttt
President O’s speeches are the Chinese food of speeches.
Does that mean his people leave unwanted menus on my door all the time?
| 437 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:54:55pm |
The woman anchor on the CNN internet feed is in full Obama Orgasm.
| 438 |
rawmuse Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:01pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
The USGS is one gov. program that makes me feel good about being a taxpayer. They do good work, and have saved my butt more than once.
| 439 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:03pm |
How bad was the ones speech? I boycotted. Did the dinner dishes. Saw him get to the podium, then saw who was behind him, Plugs and Blinky. Made me want to break something.
| 440 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:06pm |
Fruit flies and earthquakes is book learnin’.
| 441 |
nfbjude14 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:12pm |
His speech was a stinker, but we can take solace in the fact that Clinton was booed off stage at the ‘88 DNC, and we all know what happened four years later.
I can’t imagine that he’d have all this hype if he gave speeches like this all the time. Perhaps he was off. He is after all, only 37.
I just went to youtube and watched Reagan tell a heckler “awww shut up.”
Ahhhh, the good ol’ days.
| 442 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:13pm |
re: #414 tradewind
You’re right. I just wonder if they secretly wish he’d screw up so HRC could run, or are they happy that she is SecState.
She makes a good one, IMO. So far, anyway. Inspires much more confidence than Obama.
You are kidding right? She says we wont bother talking to China about civil rights abuses so we can discuss carbon emissions, a far weightier subject. WTF?
| 443 |
avanti Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:17pm |
re: #275 Gus 802
It did. With the volcano and mag-lev comment.
What about the “golf carts” and other things in porkulus?
It’s funny about the golf carts, they are really those small cars for local trips like in a retirement community. They are pretty much golf carts with lights and a horn that go a bit faster.
| 445 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:46pm |
I was particularly interested when he discussed the conservative principles we supposedly share, but didn’t list one.
What principles is he talking about exactly? He said they’re trying to earn back our trust by focusing on these principles. Maybe we should all get on the same page with what principles we’re talking about here. That would be a start.
| 446 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:55:46pm |
re: #440 Killgore Trout
Fruit flies and earthquakes is book learnin’.
All you need to know is your timeses and gizzintas.
| 447 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:04pm |
Here’s a conservative actor with charisma:
books.google.com
| 448 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:08pm |
re: #444 snowcrash
It’s raining here so I have no chance.
| 449 |
itellu3times Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:09pm |
| 450 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:17pm |
re: #425 COconTIME
With an incumbent, the only slayer who can slay is the one in the WH. He’ll get four more no matter who runs unless he screws up, which is a real possibility.
Even Reagan couldn’t have beaten Carter if Jimmah hadn’t been such a jerk.
| 451 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:20pm |
| 452 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:22pm |
re: #443 avanti
Yep. That would have been a better dig. Even to say “golf carts” which isn’t exactly correct. But hey.
| 453 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:31pm |
re: #418 formercorpsman
If memory serves me, I don’t think the hyperbole panned out in the result.
If you really look at honestly, for how close the election was anyway, under the circumstances, Obama should have had a landslide.
Personally, I am tired of identity politics. I want someone who actually wants to uphold the Constitution, get away from gerrymandering, and makes a smaller government.
Playing to special interest groups in either camp, makes this very difficult.
say what you want, I was there. If it would have not been for Puma McCains loss would have been worse. They were the reason that PA was even in play. We worked too damn hard for someone to diminish our work.
But if you feel you don’t need them in 2012, I am sure they can oblige you.
| 454 |
karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:34pm |
We are screwed for generations to come.
A vacuous amateur is in the White House and Republicans are powerless because they can’t get off the social agenda.
We are paying a heavy price for the assholes who decided that a conservative from Arizona was just not conservative enough.
God help us because we seem unable to help ourselves.
| 455 |
jelo Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:35pm |
re: #392 MandyManners
It’s a sham cause he’s full of shit and it’s not scientific!
It’s a scam cause he’s got the Fox fools fooled (and not dumb like a fox)
and it’s as worthwhile as spam!
| 456 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:40pm |
Wait a second… I proposed Denzel Washington without even knowing anything about his politics, because I think he may be the only person in American who could beat BHO regardless of politics.
But have a look at this.
| 457 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:41pm |
re: #437 Syrah
Of course my wife now has asked me wife I burst out in laughter, at 10:56 p.m.
| 458 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:51pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
provide lasting improvement to our Nation’s science capacity.
Well- no wonder it got singled out.
| 459 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:54pm |
re: #445 Sharmuta
I was particularly interested when he discussed the conservative principles we supposedly share, but didn’t list one.
What principles is he talking about exactly? He said they’re trying to earn back our trust by focusing on these principles. Maybe we should all get on the same page with what principles we’re talking about here. That would be a start.
Amen.
| 460 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:56pm |
re: #431 Irish Rose
So sorry…. try some ginger root or tea or capsules, hope you feel better.
| 461 |
Maui Girl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:56:56pm |
re: #391 Kreuzueber Halbmond
Kinda insulting to our intelligence, too. The RNC needs to put this toy back in the box.
Yes, insulting to OUR intelligence but I’m sure there were Obamabots that wanted to hear what the Rep. response was and therefore to understand the response, it needed to be delivered dumbed down. Not for us, but for them.
| 462 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:00pm |
re: #443 avanti
It’s funny about the golf carts, they are really those small cars for local trips like in a retirement community.
Jerry Seinfeld’s folks had that bigass Caddy when they drove around the Condo complex.
| 463 |
snowcrash Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:08pm |
re: #451 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Cooked and ate mine weeks ago.
| 464 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:11pm |
Volcanic measuring systems include seismic. This can also be applied to nuclear device detection purposes.
| 465 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:26pm |
Fox focus group gives Jindal very good marks.
| 466 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:32pm |
I couldn’t watch BHO more than five minutes without changing the channel to AMC and “Dirty Harry” - at least ol’ Clint makes more sense that that SOB. Watched the last few minutes of the Jindal response - he is the adult between himself and BHO.
BHO is so un-Presidential, it isn’t funny. And the majority in Congress simply swoon over him and the idea of financially raping the American people. Disgusting.
| 468 |
itellu3times Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:39pm |
re: #454 karmic_inquisitor
We are paying a heavy price for the assholes who decided that a conservative from Arizona was just not conservative enough.
What about the assholes who decided that a conservative from Arizona wasn’t liberal enough?
| 469 |
unclassifiable Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:41pm |
re: #445 Sharmuta
It was empty Sharmuta. It was as empty as O’s address but at least it was mercifully short.
| 471 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:54pm |
re: #463 snowcrash
Cooked and ate mine weeks ago.
Did you bbq it or put it in the crock pot? Did it taste gamy or was it like manna?
| 472 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:57:58pm |
How ironic is this?
/Scientologist Greta helping Frank Luntz demonstrate his funky E-Meters
| 473 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:01pm |
re: #426 Mich-again
Meanwhile back in Detroit, a whopping 9% of the eligible voters showed up to vote in the Primary election to replace Kwame Kilpatrick.
Who did they vote for?
| 475 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:14pm |
re: #445 Sharmuta
I was particularly interested when he discussed the conservative principles we supposedly share, but didn’t list one.
What principles is he talking about exactly? He said they’re trying to earn back our trust by focusing on these principles. Maybe we should all get on the same page with what principles we’re talking about here. That would be a start.
When I wrote to the GOP think tank or whatever it is that is asking for feedback, I requested that we get someone to espouse what real true conservative values are…make that our platform and then communicate them clearly to the American people. Jindal doesn’t even come close.
| 476 |
cronus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:16pm |
re: #434 Thanos
The volcanoe thing is a standard Republican swipe against scientific research, and has the added benefit of sucking some dollars out of Sarah Palin turf if he succeeds in shooting it down.
This is worse than fruit flies. Fruit flies takes a little bit of work to explain. But I bet more than a handful of Americans looked at the TV quizzically thinking that volcanic activity might actually be something we would want to keep a bead on.
| 478 |
itellu3times Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:21pm |
| 479 |
COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:28pm |
re: #450 tradewind
With an incumbent, the only slayer who can slay is the one in the WH. He’ll get four more no matter who runs unless he screws up, which is a real possibility.
Even Reagan couldn’t have beaten Carter if Jimmah hadn’t been such a jerk.
Well put. I am putting more hopenchange in a barry meltdown than a conservative pheonix.
| 480 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:38pm |
re: #469 unclassifiable
It was empty Sharmuta. It was as empty as O’s address but at least it was mercifully short.
It was the worst response I’ve seen ever.
| 481 |
Florida Lady Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:58:52pm |
re: #450 tradewind
With an incumbent, the only slayer who can slay is the one in the WH. He’ll get four more no matter who runs unless he screws up, which is a real possibility.
Even Reagan couldn’t have beaten Carter if Jimmah hadn’t been such a jerk.
Well, if Obama is Carter on speed/steroids … maybe he’ll really, REALLY screw up, and it won’t take a miracle-worker on our side to beat him!
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CurrentConflict Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:01pm |
Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of, oh wait i have a bottle of rum over there. Seeeeeeeeeee YAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Nugent/Palin ‘12 a couple of strait shooters. Don’t believe it you go to the range with um.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:16pm |
re: #480 Sharmuta
It was the worst response I’ve seen ever.
I know….Blinky did better, and I hate that c&$%
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:20pm |
re: #425 COconTIME
Dear god NO!
Bipartisan be damned, they need to spend the next four years finding/creating a BHO slayer.
Agree. Palin had her time in the sun. She mishandled it. Fair or unfair, that is what happened.
We need someone who can mock Obama and is faster on his/her feet. Pop the bubble that is the Obama image machine. Smarty. Willy. Better versed on all of the issues.
Someone who comes off as smarter so that the blowhard is exposed.
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tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:34pm |
re: #472 Killian Bundy
Oh, so that’s why she was blessedly free from Travolta talk during the news blitz.
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Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:35pm |
re: #454 karmic_inquisitor
So true, but as Curly said: “the day ain’t over, yet!”
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Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:41pm |
re: #450 tradewind
With an incumbent, the only slayer who can slay is the one in the WH. He’ll get four more no matter who runs unless he screws up, which is a real possibility.
Even Reagan couldn’t have beaten Carter if Jimmah hadn’t been such a jerk.
It’s almost unimaginable that Obama wouldn’t be reelected. No matter what he does.
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deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:59:52pm |
The volcano monitoring was a good example of bad federal spending. While it is probably a worthwhile cause, the cost should be shouldered by people who live near volcanos (otherwise the government is artificially deflating the cost of living in those areas, thus encouraging people to live in dangerous areas).
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:03pm |
Carl Cameron had to translate with Mitch McConnell was saying. Talk about weak senators….
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unclassifiable Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:12pm |
re: #480 Sharmuta
If Jindal would have come out and said “screw dem sumbithces and der friggin pork fest” he could have sealed the deal right there.
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tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:14pm |
re: #481 Florida Lady
Let’s hope it doesn’t take a mess of hostages in Iran to help him along.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:20pm |
I’m just wondering when it was that partisanship became a bad thing.
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:25pm |
I’m a fiscal hawk, but I’d gladly spend hundreds of millions on supervolcano and near earth object monitoring. It only takes one cataclysmic eruption or collision to extinguish humanity.
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hazzyday Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:27pm |
re: #300 Catttt
One thing’s for sure - he lost the Republicans the volcano monitor vote.
I monitor that volcano everyday. I look SW, all snow and clouds, no smoke or fire. Everything is aok.
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formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:50pm |
re: #453 Afrocity
Don’t be offended, I am not trying to do that.
We can respectfully see it differently.
| 497 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:52pm |
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pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:53pm |
Jindal took a swipe at the USGS? Hey Bobby, those volcano monitoring thingys are real good for keeping jet planes from flying through clouds of volcanic ash and CRASHING!
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:56pm |
Here is the full text of Jindal’s speech. latimesblogs.latimes.com
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Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:00:56pm |
That CNN feed was getting to be way too much. I had to turn it off.
It was way to contrived. This Brave new world that we are hell bent to create is just too much.
There is more truth in the bottom of a bottle of Mezcal than there is in the spew that comes out of CNN, and that is not saying much.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:07pm |
Here’s the volcanic danger zones for the USA.
Some of the dangers are posed to high population and economic areas. For someone that is governor in a state that relies on research, FEMA, etc., in a hurricane state he made a rather dumb mistake pointing that out.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:19pm |
re: #484 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I’ve changed Blinky’s name to Smirky after tonight.
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tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:26pm |
re: #490 ziggyelman
He’s actually the most effective Republican, legislatively, working now, and the second most powerful in terms of influence. He gets it done.
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6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:27pm |
re: #481 Florida Lady
Well, if Obama is Carter on speed/steroids … maybe he’ll really, REALLY screw up, and it won’t take a miracle-worker on our side to beat him!
I think, in four years, ANYONE with a pulse can beat BHO, especially from voters that still have a job in ‘12. Hell, Nader might beat the bastard!
| 506 |
Crimsonfisted Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:42pm |
re: #485 karmic_inquisitor
Agree. Palin had her time in the sun. She mishandled it. Fair or unfair, that is what happened.
We need someone who can mock Obama and is faster on his/her feet. Pop the bubble that is the Obama image machine. Smarty. Willy. Better versed on all of the issues.
Someone who comes off as smarter so that the blowhard is exposed.
That would be Rush but he is over qualified. We need someone else.
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:48pm |
re: #488 Last Mohican
It’s almost unimaginable that Obama wouldn’t be reelected. No matter what he does.
Exactly! How did Bush win twice, when the press, and Hollywood was against him, and he is probably the worst public speaker we had as Prez in a century?
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:49pm |
re: #488 Last Mohican
It’s almost unimaginable that Obama wouldn’t be reelected. No matter what he does.
Well if he takes away all the handouts he is promising and then some, we may just have a chance. You know how pissy people get when you take away their free money.
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mattm Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:51pm |
re: #450 tradewind
With an incumbent, the only slayer who can slay is the one in the WH. He’ll get four more no matter who runs unless he screws up, which is a real possibility.
Even Reagan couldn’t have beaten Carter if Jimmah hadn’t been such a jerk.
Judging by the RCP polling data, he is not doing well 60+% say the country is headed in the wring direction.
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Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:52pm |
re: #447 jaunte
Impressive young man. Is he interested in politics?
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jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:01:58pm |
re: #489 deymond
Given the Yellowstone Caldera, the U.S. is a dangerous area.
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pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:22pm |
re: #489 deymond
So lets shit can all the doppler radar that monitors tornados. Those people shouldn’t live on the east side of the rockies, it’s dangerous.
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BGOH Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:26pm |
re: #465 Picayune
Fox focus group gives Jindal very good marks.
I have read some derision of Luntz’s focus groups (not from you), and I wouldn’t necessarily disagree that they can be quite annoying. But the scary thing is that these ‘dunces’ are the average voter. We are all a lot more versed in the current political discourse because, let’s face it, most of us are junkies. The average person is not.
And, apparently, this small sampling of ‘dunces’ like Jindal. The difference in reactions between them and ‘us’ is exactly what makes politics so very, very interesting.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:28pm |
re: #488 Last Mohican
It’s almost unimaginable that Obama wouldn’t be reelected. No matter what he does.
Anything is possible to those that believe in him
(my mother always said that to me when I felt defeated)
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:42pm |
NYT:
WASHINGTON — President Obama urged the nation on Tuesday to see the economic crisis as reason to raise its ambitions, calling for expensive new efforts to address energy, health care and education programs even as he warned that more money might be needed to bail out banks.
In his first address to a joint session of Congress, Mr. Obama mixed an acknowledgment of the depth of the economic problems with a Reaganesque exhortation to American resilience and an expansive agenda with a pledge to begin paring down a soaring budget deficit.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:45pm |
re: #493 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I’m just wondering when it was that partisanship became a bad thing.
Now PP, you know the answer … it was as soon as the Dems re-defined “bipartisanship” to mean “agreeing with them completely”.
| 517 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:49pm |
re: #503 Sharmuta
I’ve changed Blinky’s name to Smirky after tonight.
Was she actually sucking on a mint or something? How tacky! Hated the suit, too.
And the standing O’s.
I’d like to see the full chamber do the wave. That would be cool!
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:02:55pm |
re: #512 pingjockey
So lets shit can all the doppler radar that monitors tornados. Those people shouldn’t live on the east side of the rockies, it’s dangerous.
Yeah, might as well just “look out the window” and see if a hurricane is coming.
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Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:22pm |
re: #506 Crimsonfisted
That would be Rush but he is over qualified. We need someone else.
Could we do without a First Lady?
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avanti Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:31pm |
re: #476 cronus
This is worse than fruit flies. Fruit flies takes a little bit of work to explain. But I bet more than a handful of Americans looked at the TV quizzically thinking that volcanic activity might actually be something we would want to keep a bead on.
It’s like the honey bee thing, that seemed silly, but it turns out bees are dying off at record levels and no one know why. Bees are needed to pollinate crops, so maybe it’s a issue.`
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snowcrash Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:38pm |
re: #471 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Used your recipe for pineapple and TonyC’s creole spice!
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:40pm |
re: #445 Sharmuta
I was particularly interested when he discussed the conservative principles we supposedly share, but didn’t list one.
What principles is he talking about exactly? He said they’re trying to earn back our trust by focusing on these principles. Maybe we should all get on the same page with what principles we’re talking about here. That would be a start.
Maybe he’s just alluding to these vague principles and values without enumerating them, so everyone can believe he means their principles and values.
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tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:43pm |
re: #506 Crimsonfisted
Newt. Dammit, what’s wrong with Newt?
The bad-husband thing has been more or less watered down after Clinton/Rudy/ and _______(fill in with bastard of choice).
Newt knows some stuff.
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lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:03:58pm |
re: #454 karmic_inquisitor
We are paying a heavy price for the assholes who decided that a conservative from Arizona was just not conservative enough.
The last conservative from Arizona that I remember running for president was Goldwater.
And yes, I did vote for McCain against Obama. Just don’t try to tell me he’s a conservative. I know what an actual conservative is, and John McCain ain’t it.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:02pm |
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HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:02pm |
Jindal’s opening line — with additional text added:
Tonight, we witnessed a great moment in the history of our Republic. In the very chamber where Congress once voted to abolish slavery, our first African-American President stepped forward to address the state of our union, unfortunately it was Barack Obama.
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Florida Lady Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:09pm |
re: #492 tradewind
Let’s hope it doesn’t take a mess of hostages in Iran to help him along.
No kidding.
But with the stupidity shown this past election, that may be what it takes … scary thought.
those Americans may not care if they dump their overwhelming debt on their children and grandchildren, but they sure don’t like being humiliated and they sure as hell get fired up about terrorists flying planes into buildings … at least for a couple of years.
| 530 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:36pm |
re: #453 Afrocity
Plus, I think you miss my point in the previous post.
I really wish for the identity politics to go away, it serves nobody’s best interests.
We need to somehow, get back to the central idea of how this country was founded, as a shared common interest R-D-I, etc.
I have grown to detest all of the political contortion, via special interest.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:40pm |
re: #504 tradewind
He’s actually the most effective Republican, legislatively, working now, and the second most powerful in terms of influence. He gets it done.
You and I both know that is not true.
As Yoda said: There is another
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:48pm |
re: #518 Gus 802
Yeah, might as well just “look out the window” and see if a hurricane is coming.
Just look and see if Geraldo or Shep are on the TV.
/if they’re near where you live, evacuate
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Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:04:56pm |
Its almost hard to measure the audacity of a Governor from the State that includes the city of New Orleans from chiding Federal Government spending for research on something like volcanoes, which pose a threat of natural disaster that could wreak havoc in some other State.
New Orleans shouldn’t even be a city and all the billions of dollars the US taxpayer has pumped into rebuilding the underwater city post Katrina will someday just be lost to the sea no matter what we do. Period.
And Jindall has the gall to bitch about wasted Government spending when all it concerns is volcanoes.
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Biff Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:02pm |
re: #425 COconTIME
Bipartisan be damned, they need to spend the next four years finding/creating a BHO slayer.
The GOP had him in Mitt.
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6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:07pm |
This Government that 47% of Americans voted for in ‘08 will go down in history as the worst ever, I’m certain of that/ The previous Congress had an 8% approval rating at the end of that session. This one will be the first to hit one percent. Watch.
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doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:07pm |
re: #488 Last Mohican
It’s almost unimaginable that Obama wouldn’t be reelected. No matter what he does.
I have such a low opinion of the American electorate, I have no trouble believing it. FDR was re-elected twice and the depression was no better than the day he arrived at the White House.
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Jack Burton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:09pm |
My favorite part was when one of the Fox focus morons compared the Jindal speech to Mr Rogers and implied this was somehow a good thing in this context.
I weep for the future…
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:10pm |
re: #507 ziggyelman
Exactly! How did Bush win twice, when the press, and Hollywood was against him, and he is probably the worst public speaker we had as Prez in a century?
Well I dunno, that 9/12 speech was a winner.
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mfarmer1 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:15pm |
Jindal is probably a more effective speaker when watching an exorcism or rolling around the floor with snakes speaking dead languages and such.
Is Sully Sullenburger a conservative by chance?
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mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:21pm |
re: #472 Killian Bundy
How ironic is this?
/Scientologist Greta helping Frank Luntz demonstrate his funky E-Meters
Is she a Scientologist? If so, I didn’t know that.
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Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:21pm |
re: #461 Maui Girl
Well, I guess, but I suspect there were plenty of Libs laughing there asses off over Bobby boy’s presentation, too. We’ll see how it all shakes out.
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:32pm |
re: #512 pingjockey
So lets shit can all the doppler radar that monitors tornados. Those people shouldn’t live on the east side of the rockies, it’s dangerous.
More Tornadoes than volcano eruptions, last time I checked! ;)
| 543 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:33pm |
I’m off to bed.
Man the markets are gonna suck tomorrow!
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:43pm |
re: #523 doppelganglander
Maybe he’s just alluding to these vague principles and values without enumerating them, so everyone can believe he means their principles and values.
I think that’s a given- and it’s part of the problem. We need to specifically list these, though reading back, he did say this:
“You elected Republicans to champion limited government, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility,” he said. “Instead, Republicans went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington.”
Now, he said, “our party is determined to regain your trust.”
I don’t see how attacking science like he did has anything to do with these three principles.
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Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:45pm |
re: #473 Alouette
Who did they vote for?
2 open spots for the General. Dave Bing is one. The other is too close still.
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Crimsonfisted Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:51pm |
re: #520 Sheepdogess
Could we do without a First Lady?
ABSOLUTELY! I am tired of these yammering she-devils. I liked Laura and the Second Lady though, to be sure. Hillary and Michelle? Not so much.
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Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:52pm |
re: #533 Mich-again
Its almost hard to measure the audacity of a Governor from the State that includes the city of New Orleans from chiding Federal Government spending for research on something like volcanoes, which pose a threat of natural disaster that could wreak havoc in some other State.
New Orleans shouldn’t even be a city and all the billions of dollars the US taxpayer has pumped into rebuilding the underwater city post Katrina will someday just be lost to the sea no matter what we do. Period.
And Jindall has the gall to bitch about wasted Government spending when all it concerns is volcanoes.
Thank you!
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Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:57pm |
re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Was she actually sucking on a mint or something?
…
She was sucking crumbs of Soylent Green from between her teeth, left over from her last feeding.
| 549 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:05:59pm |
re: #512 pingjockey
I wasn’t aware that keeping volcano monitoring out of the stimulus bill meant “shit canning” it.
| 550 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:22pm |
re: #531 Afrocity
All I can say is , look it up. McConnell has steered more legislation through than almost anyone.
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mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:23pm |
re: #503 Sharmuta
I’ve changed Blinky’s name to Smirky after tonight.
Yeah… that was the most self-satisfied smirk I’ve seen in decades.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:41pm |
re: #539 mfarmer1
Jindal is probably a more effective speaker when watching an exorcism or rolling around the floor with snakes speaking dead languages and such.
Is Sully Sullenburger a conservative by chance?
Chances are he is. He works for a living.
| 553 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:42pm |
re: #507 ziggyelman
Exactly! How did Bush win twice, when the press, and Hollywood was against him, and he is probably the worst public speaker we had as Prez in a century?
George W. Bush was like Demosthenes (not that I have ever heard him speak BTW) compared to this Jindal dipshit.
| 554 |
yesandno Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:56pm |
What we need is someone who believes….
In America, in ourselves, in the future and our ability to shape events rather then letting them shaping us. Someone who believes that experience counts yet is open to new ideas, searches them out.
Not a celebrity, but an honest broker of a conservative point of view…
| 555 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:56pm |
re: #530 formercorpsman
Plus, I think you miss my point in the previous post.
I really wish for the identity politics to go away, it serves nobody’s best interests.
We need to somehow, get back to the central idea of how this country was founded, as a shared common interest R-D-I, etc.
I have grown to detest all of the political contortion, via special interest.
How is that working for you? Or the GOP?
I am not saying it is right.
It is what it is.
The demographic of the US is changing
It will either benefit the GOP or hurt it.
You decide.
| 556 |
ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:06:59pm |
re: #538 Wishing
Well I dunno, that 9/12 speech was a winner.
It was! State of the Union was a great one as well.But, talk about someone that couldn’t give a speech without a teleprompter. Did you see how Obama had republicans question him in the press room the other day?
I’d have been sweating bullets if Bush had ever done something like that.
| 557 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:17pm |
President Obama was at his scripted best - a brilliantly delivered message of hope and inspiration. A magnificent smoke and mirrors show, a triumph of form over substance with very little in the way of specifics.
No matter how ineffectual Obama turns out to be, he will probably never perform nearly as poorly as the dire forecasts of the Republicans would indicate.
If I were advising the Republicans, I would tell them to cool the virulent criticism of the President and just sit back for a few months with a bag of popcorn and watch him start to dig his own political grave.
| 558 |
J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:20pm |
re: #476 cronus
Exactly. Jindal’s examples of “frivolous spending” just didn’t rank up there…so, in a way, he shot himself in the foot…
| 559 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:24pm |
re: #540 mrgreen
Is she a Scientologist? If so, I didn’t know that.
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formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:26pm |
re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
She is very awkward.
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6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:28pm |
re: #548 Gort
Was she actually sucking on a mint or something? How tacky! Hated the suit, too.
No, she was sucking the life out of the room.
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:35pm |
re: #551 mrgreen
Yeah… that was the most self-satisfied smirk I’ve seen in decades.
Wasn’t it?! You’d think she was the person who singe handedly brought 0bama to power or something- at least, that was my observation of that smirk.
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pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:49pm |
re: #542 ziggyelman
The volcano monitoring stations also monitor seismic events. I guess the left coast needs to move. Too dangerous, earthquakes doncha know. The eastern seaboard will have to be closed, hurricanes, ditto for the gulf coast.
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Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:53pm |
re: #543 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I’m off to bed.
Man the markets are gonna suck tomorrow!
They are. Market futures all pointing south. I’m not as talented at reading markets as 3Wood is (I’d like to see his take), but it doesn’t look like tomorrow’s going to be a good day.
| 565 |
ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:07:56pm |
And Eric Cantor looks and sounds like a stoner on Hannity….man, just a bad night for Republicans all around…
| 566 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:08:44pm |
re: #513 BGOH
Agreed, and the Fox focus is partisan, but they were polite and concise in their responses, which sells well nationwide. Contrast that to the Mexican jumping bean performance from our elected Dems ahootin an hollorin in front on PresO.
| 567 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:09:04pm |
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pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:09:41pm |
re: #549 deymond
Didn’t know it was in the porkulus bill. I thought we were talking about it being whaced from the budget. Pssst…There is no stimulus in the stimulous bill. It is a load of crap.
| 570 |
Fearless Fred Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:09:42pm |
re: #477 ploome hineni
well Mitt Romney struck out
Yeah — you’re right, ploome. Fred struck out too. And Goldwater lost. And Dick Army was never very popular. And Clinton and Bush each won by talking conservativish-sounding wishy-washy gobbledy-goopy happy happy crap about ‘compassion’, and feeling everbody’s pain. Makes me sick. Seriously sick. I had the flu over the weekend. I don’t recall Obama wiping my ass. Did I miss something?
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ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:09:48pm |
re: #563 pingjockey
The volcano monitoring stations also monitor seismic events. I guess the left coast needs to move. Too dangerous, earthquakes doncha know. The eastern seaboard will have to be closed, hurricanes, ditto for the gulf coast.
Thing is, you know nothing is going unmonitored at this point….We seem to have warnings weeks, if not months before a volcano is going to blow, right?
This is porkulus, plain and simple if it’s going to cost 100 Million plus(If I heard correctly)
| 572 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:09:55pm |
re: #552 NJDhockeyfan
He’s a senior pilot for a major airline. Having married one, I can tell you that there aren’t a lot of Democrats in the ranks. The paychecks are so clearly explained that seeing all that salary sucked out by taxes is not exactly an incentive to vote Democrat. Also, they do tend to want the evildoers surveilled.
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NukeAtomrod Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:05pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:14pm |
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Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:17pm |
I figured it out! What Jindal was missing:
a cardigan.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:26pm |
By the way, the “volcano monitoring” bit also seemed like a very calculated thumb in the eye of the SICB for canceling the convention in New Orleans.
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deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:30pm |
re: #558 J.S.
I thought the automobiles for the federal government was good. I think that he was treading lightly to keep the speech “positive.” I think that’s the right strategy for tonight.
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cronus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:10:36pm |
re: #549 deymond
I wasn’t aware that keeping volcano monitoring out of the stimulus bill meant “shit canning” it.
You’re missing the point. Of all the big fat targets to lampoon in the stimulus, the stuff related to potential natural disasters was a lame choice — particularly by a governor from Louisiana.
| 579 |
Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:11:00pm |
re: #576 Charles
By the way, the “volcano monitoring” bit also seemed like a very calculated thumb in the eye of the SICB for canceling the convention in New Orleans.
Egads, you may have something there.
| 580 |
Biff Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:11:02pm |
re: #524 tradewind
Newt, you’re right. Very smart guy. Thinks well on his feet. Philosophically secure. Would take O apart in a debate. Of course, the MSM will say he is mean.
| 581 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:11:07pm |
re: #564 Bloodnok
Market futures all pointing south. I’m not as talented at reading markets as 3Wood is (I’d like to see his take), but it doesn’t look like tomorrow’s going to be a good day.
My prediction for Wednesday’s US markets - The Dow will be down nearly 750 points and will hover around 6,200 at its lowest point before a slight rebound. NASDAQ drops 10 percent.
I’m a serious doom-n-gloomer tonight. Old Hopenchange ain’t given me any hope, and Jindal was just —- there.
| 582 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:11:39pm |
re: #533 Mich-again
Yes. New Orleans is below sea level. Sooner or later it will be covered by water. It is inevitable. You would never build a new city there now. But they just rebuilt a city there now. It is really stupid. John McPhee wrote about it in a great book The Control of Nature. I highly recommend it.
You can find it here: amazon.com
Amazon.com Review
Master how-it-works writer John McPhee has instructed his readers in the arcana of how oranges are commercially graded, how mountains form, how canoes are built and oceans crossed. In The Control of Nature he turns his attention once more to geology and the human struggle against nature. In one sketch, he explores the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ unrealized plan to divert the flow of the Mississippi River into a tributary, the Atchafalaya, for flood control; in another, he looks at the ingenious ways in which an Icelandic engineer saved a southern harbor on that island from being destroyed by a lava flow; in a third, he examines a complex scheme to protect Los Angeles from boulders ejected from mountains by compression and tectonic movement. As always, McPhee combines a deep knowledge of his subject with a narrative approach that is wholly accessible; you may not have thought you were interested in earthquakes and flood control, but he gently leads you to take a passionate concern in such matters.
Review
Is it chutzpah? The willing suspension of disbelief? Or sheer stupidity? One wonders - and so does McPhee (Rising from the Plains, Table of Contents, etc.) as he describes, most graphically, three cases of humanity living at the brink of natural disasters. The first long piece describes man’s never-satisfied efforts to tame the Mississippi. The mental picture that develops is of a channel forced into deeper and deeper cuts and levees built ever higher as dams are raised and flood plains tamed in an effort to prevent periodic flooding and natural spills into distributaries. But now look at one “structure” (that’s what the Army Corps of Engineers calls a navigation lock complex) that controls the flow where the Mississippi and Atchafalaya rivers come together. Its purpose: nothing less than to maintain the volume and course of the Mississippi just as it was in 1950 and thus preserve the river’s connection to Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Next comes a tale of Iceland and the sheer heroism of a small band to tame molten lava by, of all things, hosing it down with water. Even
| 584 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:11:51pm |
re: #549 deymond
I wasn’t aware that keeping volcano monitoring out of the stimulus bill meant “shit canning” it.
You said:
re: #489 deymond
The volcano monitoring was a good example of bad federal spending. While it is probably a worthwhile cause, the cost should be shouldered by people who live near volcanos (otherwise the government is artificially deflating the cost of living in those areas, thus encouraging people to live in dangerous areas).
Where did you say it shouldn’t be in the stimulus bill?
| 585 |
doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:12:00pm |
re: #544 Sharmuta
I don’t see how attacking science like he did has anything to do with these three principles.
I don’t think he, and possibly the GOP as a whole, has any interest in being specific. No matter what they do, if they spell it out they’re either going to lose the Christian fundamentalists or the secular-minded/separation of Church and State folks. I think they’ll find that by trying to play both sides against the middle, they’ll lose both.
| 586 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:12:15pm |
re: #571 ziggyelman
The whole damn plan is porkulus. It is all bullshit. Why pick one thing that is less that 1% of the Bill to bitch about. AIG got, what 50 billion?
| 587 |
Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:12:33pm |
re: #581 6pat6
I really hope you’re not right. But I’m really scared you’re right.
| 588 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:12:43pm |
re: #582 HelloDare
That’s a fantastic book. One of my favorites.
| 589 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:13:09pm |
re: #547 Gus 802
Thank you!
Up here in Michigan we kind of feel left out from all the fun and excitement all the other States get with natural disasters. So we make our own.
No really. Oklahoma has F-5 tornadoes. The Gulf Coast gets pummeled by hurricanes. California will someday break off into the ocean and crash into Catalina while wildfires burn whats left of the West. Floods all along the Mississippi, and in Texas, Ohio.., Killer ice storms in Kentucky,
All we get here is none of that.
| 590 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:13:26pm |
Here’s an idea, no TV coverage for politicians.
Only radio.
No distractions. Only substance.
| 592 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:13:31pm |
And there will be even MORE porkulus coming! BHO has already said another one is coming in the Spring! What a maroon he is.
| 593 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:13:31pm |
Obama is pushing pork to end the rumors that he’s a practicing Muslim.
| 594 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:13:40pm |
re: #489 deymond
The volcano monitoring was a good example of bad federal spending. While it is probably a worthwhile cause, the cost should be shouldered by people who live near volcanos (otherwise the government is artificially deflating the cost of living in those areas, thus encouraging people to live in dangerous areas).
Right, has nothing to do with the rest of the country, nor contributes to it? No doubt you also suggest evacuating all coastal areas of the country prone to flood or storm and no insurance should be paid for by anyone except those actually affected. Everyman for themselves!
////
| 595 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:14:25pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
But you have Detroitistan, and that’s a natural disaster if ever there was one.
| 596 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:14:36pm |
re: #585 doppelganglander
I don’t think he, and possibly the GOP as a whole, has any interest in being specific. No matter what they do, if they spell it out they’re either going to lose the Christian fundamentalists or the secular-minded/separation of Church and State folks. I think they’ll find that by trying to play both sides against the middle, they’ll lose both.
And that’s why they lose, because they don’t take a stand. Playing the middle and peddling neutrality is a fatal tactic.
| 597 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:14:40pm |
| 598 |
J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:14:55pm |
re: #577 deymond
Although I think Jindal could have mentioned that it’s not just “new” cars being bought, but very expensive (wasteful) hybrid cars…(I think he could have come up with better examples of pork spending…)
| 599 |
teleskiguy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:05pm |
re: #456 Last Mohican
Wait a second… I proposed Denzel Washington without even knowing anything about his politics, because I think he may be the only person in American who could beat BHO regardless of politics.
But have a look at this.
The Beastie Boys never cease to amaze! MCA, AdRock and Mike D fuckin’ Rule!
| 600 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:16pm |
re: #534 Biff
The GOP had him in Mitt.
Romney is a lot more electable today than just a few of months ago I think. I was not a backer then but probably should have been. I look around the current conservative landscape and realize that we missed something with the guy. The Mormon objection was a misdirect by the media and his GOP opponents. Shame really. I now hope that he gears up to run again.
/now if only he would take up something like cutting brush, or shooting bears, or dirt biking or something! Just get dirty a little bit Mitt. Forget to shave once in a while or somesuch at least!
| 601 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:20pm |
re: #562 Sharmuta
Wasn’t it?! You’d think she was the person who singe handedly brought 0bama to power or something- at least, that was my observation of that smirk.
Yeah, It crossed my mind if she was still taking lessons in how to behave in front of cameras.
| 602 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:31pm |
I guess people forgot about Mt. Saint Helens already. Total cost was 1 billion dollars in damage and 57 dead. If this were to take place near a metropolitan location it would have been even more devastating. To think that a volcano only erupts and effect the local areas it ludicrous since volcanic ash effect area total 10s of thousand of square miles.
| 603 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:31pm |
re: #576 Charles
By the way, the “volcano monitoring” bit also seemed like a very calculated thumb in the eye of the SICB for canceling the convention in New Orleans.
The plot thickens. [Queues the sinister sounding organ music..]
| 604 |
Stonemason Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:44pm |
re: #555 Afrocity
Plus, I think you miss my point in the previous post.I really wish for the identity politics to go away, it serves nobody’s best interests.
We need to somehow, get back to the central idea of how this country was founded, as a shared common interest R-D-I, etc.
I have grown to detest all of the political contortion, via special interest.
How is that working for you? Or the GOP?
I am not saying it is right.
It is what it is.
The demographic of the US is changing
It will either benefit the GOP or hurt it.
You decide.
I had to get them both in here, because I think you are both right. The way to appeal to a larger audience though is to point out how all the ‘groups’ are actually Americans with like needs. The trick is to stand up and address them all with honesty and tell each group that is exactly what is being done.
Look at women, talk to women, and explain how women can benefit from a policy that also benefits, say, scientists, or, Christians, or, Health Nuts. Bring people together not with promises but with honesty.
It can be done. Who has the guts to do it?
| 605 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:46pm |
re: #576 Charles
Anything’s possible, but it seems like an effective political point (not a lot of volcanos in battleground (or red) states, I don’t think).
| 606 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:15:59pm |
re: #590 Sheepdogess
No…. I want to see those micro-expressions.
| 607 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:06pm |
re: #590 Sheepdogess
Here’s an idea, no TV coverage for politicians.
Only radio.
No distractions. Only substance.
Obama still would be able to capture peoples souls with his golden voice.
Obama has lived the whole o his life for this. It is more than just image. it is the very expression of his soul.
| 608 |
ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:11pm |
re: #586 pingjockey
The whole damn plan is porkulus. It is all bullshit. Why pick one thing that is less that 1% of the Bill to bitch about. AIG got, what 50 billion?
AIG was part of the “bailout” or whatever they called it, not the spending bill, correct? He mentioned the high speed railroad from Vegas to Disneyland as well.
I’d rather have seen what would have happened if AIG and the others hadn’t gotten the money, but that would never happen…
| 609 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:22pm |
re: #588 jaunte
That’s a fantastic book. One of my favorites.
I’ve read quite a few of his books. Nothing in the last few years. The last one was The Founding Fish. He’s a great writer.
| 610 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:26pm |
re: #520 Sheepdogess
Could we do without a First Lady?
James Buchanan was single - so I say the answer is no.
| 611 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:43pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
Up here in Michigan we kind of feel left out from all the fun and excitement all the other States get with natural disasters. So we make our own.
No really. Oklahoma has F-5 tornadoes. The Gulf Coast gets pummeled by hurricanes. California will someday break off into the ocean and crash into Catalina while wildfires burn whats left of the West. Floods all along the Mississippi, and in Texas, Ohio.., Killer ice storms in Kentucky,
All we get here is none of that.
All we have is the largest fresh water supply in the world, but our state is in the toilet.
| 612 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:55pm |
re: #607 Syrah
Obama has lived the whole o his life for this. It is more than just image. it is the very expression of his soul.
What soul?
| 613 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:16:59pm |
re: #594 Naso Tang
Right, has nothing to do with the rest of the country, nor contributes to it? No doubt you also suggest evacuating all coastal areas of the country prone to flood or storm and no insurance should be paid for by anyone except those actually affected. Everyman for themselves!
////
My homeowner’s rates doubled after Hurricane Andrew. I don’t live on the beach like a lot of those people. Why? Having been born on the Gulf Coast of Texas, I know what “sea level” means.
So here I am, relatively high and dry, 50+ miles off the coast, NOT at sea level, paying through the nose so people can build their homes in foolish places.
There has GOT to be a middle ground between “every man for himself” and “let George do it pay for it”.
| 614 |
rain of lead Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:05pm |
gee look which way the wind is blowing in dc
universal health care with MANDATES
“we are from the government and we are here to help you or else!
| 615 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:09pm |
re: #595 tradewind
But you have Detroitistan, and that’s a natural disaster if ever there was one.
I tried to point out since Nature won’t give us any we make our own.
| 616 |
ziggyelman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:12pm |
Time to watch 24 from last night….Fantasy land is much more fun than reality land…. :(
| 617 |
mrgreen Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:13pm |
re: #559 Killian Bundy
Thanks for the link. You gotta love all these celebrities folowing a pseudo-religion created by a third-rate sci-fi author who is on record before he created Scientology saying that the best way to get rich was to create a fake religion. BTW, of the dozens of books Hubbard wrote, only one was quite entertaining, Battlefield Earth, although you’d never guess that from the abysmal movie version Travolto foisted on the public.
| 618 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:29pm |
re: #610 Catttt
James Buchanan was single - so I say the answer is no.
His niece, Harriet Lane, served as First Lady during his administration.
| 619 |
tradewind Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:33pm |
re: #562 Sharmuta
Who put her in that baby-puke-green gunny sack?
She usually looks pretty well dressed.
| 620 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:38pm |
| 621 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:39pm |
re: #609 HelloDare
I liked ‘Assembling California’, too.
amazon.com
| 622 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:17:42pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
Pretty calm here in Colorado. Although we do have tornado warning systems in place. I’m quiet sure that these warning devices wouldn’t be taken up by the private sector.
| 623 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:05pm |
re: #616 ziggyelman
Yeah, the POTUS has more balls in 24. Refreshing, indeed.
| 624 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:06pm |
re: #612 6pat6
What soul?
He has a soul. It may not be one that you would want, but he does have one.
| 625 |
pat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:08pm |
We are less in the hands of a scheming leftist, and more in the hands of scheming leftists and corrupt politicians using a sock puppet. Obama is a teleprompter baby. They pull the string , he talks sweetly.
| 626 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:12pm |
re: #582 HelloDare
Because the port from Baton Rouge to south of NOLA is the largest in the world in tonnage, etc., and 30 - 40 % of US energy (O&G) come from or pass through the NOLA region, the relocation of this infrastructure will be tres $$$$$.
If Holland can keep out the North Sea, NOLA can be protected. The $$$ is available and allocated, but is the will?
| 628 |
NukeAtomrod Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:15pm |
| 629 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:22pm |
re: #618 Alouette
His niece, Harriet Lane, served as First Lady during his administration.
Well, in SOME ways, yes. In OTHER - ahem - ways, I think not.
| 630 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:22pm |
re: #608 ziggyelman
Maybe the bailout, but I thought there was some more of our grandkids money given to more asshats like that in the porkulus bill?
| 631 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:18:37pm |
re: #555 Afrocity
Well, I guess my question would be, what do you change?
I don’t think so much as to change into something, as it is trying to go back to what the original workings were.
| 633 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:07pm |
I didn’t get to hear any of this live but from the threads all I can guess it wasn’t a good evening. Any glimmers ‘o hope, somebody?
| 634 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:09pm |
Just exactly what is this medical treatment which the commercials suggest men should seek for an erection lasting more than four hours?
….just wondering.
| 636 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:15pm |
re: #632 TheMatrix31
YES! Michael Steele on Hannity next!
Oh, darn. You’re making me want to turn on the TV, and I don’t want to.
| 637 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:15pm |
Alaska can pay for it’s own volcano monitoring. It doesn’t need help from the feds.
| 638 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:20pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
Up here in Michigan we kind of feel left out from all the fun and excitement all the other States get with natural disasters. So we make our own.
No really. Oklahoma has F-5 tornadoes. The Gulf Coast gets pummeled by hurricanes. California will someday break off into the ocean and crash into Catalina while wildfires burn whats left of the West. Floods all along the Mississippi, and in Texas, Ohio.., Killer ice storms in Kentucky,
All we get here is none of that.
The Front Range of Colorado, where I live, is like that. There are avalanches on the Western Slope, and tornadoes in the eastern part of the state, but all we get is a relatively small amount of snow and some wind.
| 639 |
doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:36pm |
re: #456 Last Mohican
Wait a second… I proposed Denzel Washington without even knowing anything about his politics, because I think he may be the only person in American who could beat BHO regardless of politics.
But have a look at this.
According to Snopes, that’s not exactly what happened. I would include the stupidest parts, but you can’t copy/paste from Snopes. Basically, he said he didn’t see Fahrenheit 9/11 because he already knows what goes on, because he’s an American and “an ex-slave.” Idiot.
| 640 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:19:36pm |
re: #584 Gort
Maybe I’m not following you. Jindal’s comment was referring to the stimulus bill (the federal autos and the volcano monitoring are in the stimulus bill; he used another example but I can’t recall it).
| 641 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:20:05pm |
He could have brought up the $200K for gang tattoo removal.
This is a real war. Obama is a real political predator. Predators pretend they are doing you a favor all the while they are planning to hurt you and control you.
This is war. Obama is the Predator in Chief. Want proof? Look at his predatory friends and then look at the social and fiscal mess that is Chicago.
I’ll write the speeches.
| 642 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:20:15pm |
re: #636 Catttt
Oh, darn. You’re making me want to turn on the TV, and I don’t want to.
Let’s hope he doesn’t drop a stinker like Jindal did.
| 643 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:20:18pm |
re: #626 Picayune
Because the port from Baton Rouge to south of NOLA is the largest in the world in tonnage, etc., and 30 - 40 % of US energy (O&G) come from or pass through the NOLA region, the relocation of this infrastructure will be tres $$$$$.
If Holland can keep out the North Sea, NOLA can be protected. The $$$ is available and allocated, but is the will?
Plus, keep Bush the hell away from the levies.
//////
| 644 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:20:19pm |
re: #629 Catttt
Well, in SOME ways, yes. In OTHER - ahem - ways, I think not.
The job of the First Lady is to act as official hostess for the White House and represent the President at society functions.
Servicing the President is not always performed by the First Lady.
| 645 |
Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:01pm |
re: #634 Spare O’Lake
Just exactly what is this medical treatment which the commercials suggest men should seek for an erection lasting more than four hours?
….just wondering.
Lowering their blood pressure, I think.
| 646 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:03pm |
re: #598 J.S.
Although I think Jindal could have mentioned that it’s not just “new” cars being bought, but very expensive (wasteful) hybrid cars…(I think he could have come up with better examples of pork spending…)
And they’re probably going to be foreign cars, at that. There don’t seem to be all that many American-made hybrids out there.
| 647 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:17pm |
re: #634 Spare O’Lake
Just exactly what is this medical treatment which the commercials suggest men should seek for an erection lasting more than four hours?
….just wondering.
I know, not by personal experience.
You don’t want to know.
| 648 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:24pm |
re: #604 Stonemason
I had to get them both in here, because I think you are both right. The way to appeal to a larger audience though is to point out how all the ‘groups’ are actually Americans with like needs. The trick is to stand up and address them all with honesty and tell each group that is exactly what is being done.
Look at women, talk to women, and explain how women can benefit from a policy that also benefits, say, scientists, or, Christians, or, Health Nuts. Bring people together not with promises but with honesty.
It can be done. Who has the guts to do it?
Obama is just a man.
No man is unbeatable
You just have to find a man or Woman that the people like more.
Jindal went down like a bad burrito tonight.
Go to plan B
Stop sounding like quitters
Stop overly self criticizing
and also sometimes you have to reevaluate and follow the times and look at the reality of your constituency.
| 649 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:24pm |
re: #625 pat
We are less in the hands of a scheming leftist, and more in the hands of scheming leftists and corrupt politicians using a sock puppet. Obama is a teleprompter baby. They pull the string , he talks sweetly.
Obama is a true believer.
He believes in every word that he spoke.
He believes that it is his destiny to bring his paradise to fulfillment.
| 650 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:40pm |
re: #637 Sheepdogess
Are you really that dense? Not just Alaskans use Alaskan airspace.
| 651 |
brandon13 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:54pm |
re: #647 OldLineTexan
I know, not by personal experience.
You don’t want to know.
Doesn’t involve a needle, does it?
| 652 |
theheat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:21:56pm |
Jindal’s folksy-speak does not come off as earnest, it comes off as plain old ignorant. He’s anti-science, a creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, a piss poor speaker, and - for reasons unknown - the current darling of the Republican party. A 7th grade debate student could dismantle this guy in less than a minute.
For shit’s sake, GOP, wake the hell up.
| 653 |
Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:01pm |
re: #648 Afrocity
Obama is just a man.
No man is unbeatable
You just have to find a man or Woman that the people like more.Jindal went down like a bad burrito tonight.
Go to plan B
Stop sounding like quitters
Stop overly self criticizing
and also sometimes you have to reevaluate and follow the times and look at the reality of your constituency.
Well said!
| 654 |
CynicalConservative Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:02pm |
re: #634 Spare O’Lake
Just exactly what is this medical treatment which the commercials suggest men should seek for an erection lasting more than four hours?
….just wondering.
Pictures of blinky?
| 655 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:05pm |
re: #637 Sheepdogess
Other states might need help with geological equipment upgrades.
| 656 |
nyc redneck Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:05pm |
if the msm go over board praising jindal tomorrow, then we will know they have found our candidate.
| 657 |
hazzyday Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:05pm |
re: #631 formercorpsman
Well, I guess my question would be, what do you change?
I don’t think so much as to change into something, as it is trying to go back to what the original workings were.
Validation of Hispanic voter values and their patriotism for the US.
| 658 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:26pm |
re: #594 Naso Tang
Yeah, I believe in the free market, and the free market works best when people shoulder the costs of their own decisions. It’s impossible to eliminate this completely, but the less of this, the best.
| 659 |
Biff Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:28pm |
re: #600 The Shadow Do
Mitt with a Miami Vice five day growth … that would sell.
| 660 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:22:39pm |
re: #652 theheat
Jindal’s folksy-speak does not come off as earnest, it comes off as plain old ignorant. He’s anti-science, a creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, a piss poor speaker, and - for reasons unknown - the current darling of the Republican party. A 7th grade debate student could dismantle this guy in less than a minute.
For shit’s sake, GOP, wake the hell up.
Is it just because Jindal is a Brown Man?
| 661 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:07pm |
re: #638 lobo91
The Front Range of Colorado, where I live, is like that. There are avalanches on the Western Slope, and tornadoes in the eastern part of the state, but all we get is a relatively small amount of snow and some wind.
Chinooks! SOB’s stole my roof one night!
| 662 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:09pm |
| 663 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:10pm |
| 665 |
pat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:29pm |
re: #649 Syrah
Oh I agre that he thinks he is the smartest man on earth. But so do those who write his nonsense and create those bills. Obama could not create a budget if you gave him a year. He is a tool. A tool of the media.
| 666 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:30pm |
re: #638 lobo91
You deserve lower home insurance premiums than the others.
| 667 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:36pm |
re: #647 OldLineTexan
I heard they have a picture of Helen Thomas in a g-string.
| 668 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:23:52pm |
Bobby Jindal is a Republican version of Obama and I don’t like him. He has the same passionless approach to life. Like Obama, he is a child of the therapeutic age where any display of emotion is frowned upon as a sign of mental instability.
Remember the guy on the hijacked 9/11 plane with his “Let’s roll!” call to action? You’ll never get that kind of response from Obama or Jindal.
| 669 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:01pm |
re: #613 OldLineTexan
My homeowner’s rates doubled after Hurricane Andrew. I don’t live on the beach like a lot of those people. Why? Having been born on the Gulf Coast of Texas, I know what “sea level” means.
So here I am, relatively high and dry, 50+ miles off the coast, NOT at sea level, paying through the nose so people can build their homes in foolish places.
There has GOT to be a middle ground between “every man for himself” and “let George
do itpay for it”.
We could go on for a long time about this, but the view from here in Florida is that the freedom of insurance companies to cherry pick for profit instead of building reserves has a lot to do with it. From an insurance perspective only it is as if the rest of the USA thinks Florida has no importance whatsoever (of course the same can be said of many other regions) because the insurance companies are allowed to insure only from those in a particular risk area. There is no spreading of risk elsewhere.
I would be happy to carry part of the burden of covering tornadoes in Kansas, if Kansas would reciprocate with hurricanes, and maybe most people in Kansas would do the same, but the people in State Farm would then make less in commissions; so no go.
/That’s what some call free market economies.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:05pm |
re: #667 pingjockey
Now, wasn’t that just a smidge evil?
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Stonemason Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:07pm |
re: #631 formercorpsman
Well, I guess my question would be, what do you change?
I don’t think so much as to change into something, as it is trying to go back to what the original workings were.
I asked who has the guts for honesty in my post. I do, and I do what I suggested, explaining to groups that feel seperated that they are actually in this together, but I am just me, living in a small suburb of Philly.
My little letters to the editor change a mind or two, my rants at work change as well. Maybe my silly blog has done some good.
Commenting here isn’t dong much to fix things but I sure do learn a huge amount
We will come out of this a united America because those of us that understand will continue to bring the groups together with refreshing honesty.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:07pm |
re: #631 formercorpsman
Well, I guess my question would be, what do you change?
I don’t think so much as to change into something, as it is trying to go back to what the original workings were.
The original workings don’t fit the new technology. It is like trying to play a VHS tape in a Blu Ray DVD.
This is the kiss of death for any company, or organization.
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Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:24pm |
re: #643 OldLineTexan
Don’t laugh, the local color mulletheads driving around NOLA with TX plates still “blame Bush” and want there Katrina support extended. But, I am sure GW is happy to be back home on the range.
| 674 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:27pm |
re: #594 Naso Tang
Volcano monitoring is cheap in comparison.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:34pm |
re: #654 CynicalConservative
Pictures of blinky?
We need to have a treatment for priapism, not Bobbitize the poor bastidge.
| 676 |
teleskiguy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:34pm |
A’ight! I’ve contributed more LGF comments today than any other day I’ve been a member. I’m drained. Gotta go! Nite Lizards!
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Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:24:57pm |
| 678 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:00pm |
re: #666 Mich-again
You deserve lower home insurance premiums than the others.
I pay about $700 a year. Not really sure how that compares to other places, since this is the only house I’ve ever owned.
| 680 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:13pm |
YES WE CAN…be more responsible Americans.
YES WE CAN…pay more taxes.
YES WE CAN…believe in our leadership.
*barf*
NO I DON”T…buy your bullshit!
| 682 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:34pm |
re: #665 pat
Oh I agre that he thinks he is the smartest man on earth. But so do those who write his nonsense and create those bills. Obama could not create a budget if you gave him a year. He is a tool. A tool of the media.
Obama is a tool.
(snicker) ;-)
| 683 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:36pm |
re: #670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It is possible that it was evil, but it would definetly wilt a 4 hour erection!
| 684 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:41pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:25:43pm |
Anyone reading this thread right now who wants to think the federal government shouldn’t be spending money on science needs to consider that they’re only reading internet comments on their computers because of the federal government spending money on science.
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J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:04pm |
re: #640 deymond
Here’s the relevant part of Jindal’s speech:
,,,they passed the largest government spending bill in history, with a price tag of more than $1 trillion with interest. While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a “magnetic levitation” line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called “volcano monitoring.” Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C.
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:05pm |
re: #680 jorline
YES WE CAN…be more responsible Americans.
YES WE CAN…pay more taxes.
YES WE CAN…believe in our leadership.
*barf*NO I DON”T…buy your bullshit!
Hurrah!
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VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:11pm |
I just catch a clip of the Obama talk. Did it seem odd that Biden and Pelosi were right behind him? Isn’t one of them supposed to be in a alternate location or something?
| 690 |
Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:13pm |
Some PMSNBC dickhead snickers “Oh, God” on mic when Jindal’s speech is starting…
…but they’re not biased.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:15pm |
re: #673 Picayune
Don’t laugh, the local color mulletheads driving around NOLA with TX plates still “blame Bush” and want there Katrina support extended. But, I am sure GW is happy to be back home on the range.
Were I GW, my farewell speech would have been ranked with Eisenhower’s. The language would have been memorable.
“My fellow Americans, and several million assorted ungrateful bastards…”
| 692 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:26:30pm |
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Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:03pm |
And now on NOVA. Rats. Rats in the bamboo.
| 695 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:03pm |
re: #657 hazzyday
Won’t get an argument from me there.
I guess I am having a tough time articulating my thoughts tonight as well.
I want everyone to remember their roots, ethnicity, etc.
I want the principles of what this country was founded on to be first.
| 696 |
Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:06pm |
re: #689 VioletTiger
I just catch a clip of the Obama talk. Did it seem odd that Biden and Pelosi were right behind him? Isn’t one of them supposed to be in a alternate location or something?
A cabinet member is kept in a secret remote location to maintain the line of succession.
| 697 |
Mich-again Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:08pm |
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6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:16pm |
re: #634 Spare O’Lake
Just exactly what is this medical treatment which the commercials suggest men should seek for an erection lasting more than four hours?
….just wondering.
Treatment for priapism is a medical emergency, because a prolonged erection can scar the penis and result in a long term complication of erectile dysfunction if if not treated. The goal of treatment is to relieve the erection and preserve normal penile function. In most cases, treatment involves draining the blood using a needle placed in the side of the penis. Medications that help shrink blood vessels, which decreases blood flow to the penis, also may be used. In rare cases, surgery may be required to avoid permanent damage to the penis. If the condition is due to sickle cell disease, a blood transfusion may be necessary. Treating any underlying medical condition or substance abuse problem is important to preventing priapism.
From WebMD.
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deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:31pm |
re: #689 VioletTiger
No, that’s normal. The AG was in hiding tonight.
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Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:48pm |
| 701 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:27:53pm |
re: #685 Sharmuta
You can thank the techno-nerds at DARPA for the inter-tubes!
Dinged ya up for that one Sharmuta.
| 703 |
Noam Sayin' Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:16pm |
Obama didn’t really make sense.
| 704 |
doppelganglander Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:19pm |
re: #689 VioletTiger
I just catch a clip of the Obama talk. Did it seem odd that Biden and Pelosi were right behind him? Isn’t one of them supposed to be in a alternate location or something?
They keep one Cabinet secretary away, just in case my fantasy becomes a reality.
And by that, I mean the hall is suddenly filled with purple knock-out gas by the Joker’s henchmen, and they’re all hauled off to an undisclosed location. Permanently.
| 706 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:39pm |
Mitt is not a creationist. Mitt is a financial expert. Mormons are notoriously honest. (The #1 ranked forensic accounting program in the country is at BYU).
Mitt is a turn-around expert. Mitt ran a major corporation AND a state. Under Mitt MA students were ranked #1 in science and #1 in Math. Mitt has an MBA and a JD.
Let’s give Mitt a second look.
| 707 |
Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:39pm |
re: #667 pingjockey
I heard they have a picture of Helen Thomas in a g-string.
Dammit, I was going to suggest a picture of her!
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COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:48pm |
re: #690 Abu Al-Poopypants
Some PMSNBC dickhead snickers “Oh, God” on mic when Jindal’s speech is starting…
…but they’re not biased.
I think everyone in America said that, only difference was the right said it in agony and the left said it in joy
| 709 |
formercorpsman Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:51pm |
Now I must pander to the only woman’s vote that matters.
Have a good night guys.
| 710 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:28:58pm |
re: #669 Naso Tang
We could go on for a long time about this, but the view from here in Florida is that the freedom of insurance companies to cherry pick for profit instead of building reserves has a lot to do with it. From an insurance perspective only it is as if the rest of the USA thinks Florida has no importance whatsoever (of course the same can be said of many other regions) because the insurance companies are allowed to insure only from those in a particular risk area. There is no spreading of risk elsewhere.
I would be happy to carry part of the burden of covering tornadoes in Kansas, if Kansas would reciprocate with hurricanes, and maybe most people in Kansas would do the same, but the people in State Farm would then make less in commissions; so no go.
/That’s what some call free market economies.
Yet it does not work that way at all. Rates are set artificially in many cases, and statistical risk is not the primary factor.
| 711 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:29:03pm |
re: #698 6pat6
From WebMD.
Glad that was from WeMD, not personal experience.
That really doesn’t sound enjoyable…
| 712 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:29:35pm |
re: #685 Sharmuta
Anyone reading this thread right now who wants to think the federal government shouldn’t be spending money on science needs to consider that they’re only reading internet comments on their computers because of the federal government spending money on science.
Well, and also Al Gore.
| 714 |
Cognito Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:29:41pm |
re: #705 Charles
Chickens and rats. In the bamboo.
I don’t know what on earth you’re talking about, but it’s making me chuckle.
| 715 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:29:43pm |
re: #707 Abu Al-Poopypants
That requires brain bleach! Then, fire!
| 716 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:29:56pm |
| 717 |
Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:30:03pm |
| 721 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:30:34pm |
re: #696 Abu Al-Poopypants
A cabinet member is kept in a secret remote location to maintain the line of succession.
Oh, okay. For some reason I thought it was the VP.
| 723 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:30:41pm |
re: #685 Sharmuta
I understand the devotion to science, but not all things flow from the government. Government is inherently a restrictive and destructive force.
| 724 |
Stonemason Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:30:47pm |
re: #648 Afrocity
But there is no reality to a constituency anymore. I live in Coatesville PA, google it, really. We have every walk of life here, Jim Gerlach (R) is our congressman but the area went Obama based on hollow lies.
what I am saying is that we can join, as Coatesville just tried to do around a spate of arsons, but we need to stop with the separations, as Coatesville is discovering with the petty bickering over the spending of relief money.
All walks of life lost property and life in the recent arsons, but now, all of a sudden, it it a political thing, and we have to help protected classes.
No, there are no more protected classes in my world there are only Americans, legal visitors, and illegal immigrants. We are all in this together, no matter what the situation is, or the color is, or the chromosomes are.
The more we discuss differences and ways to handle them, the more different we become.
Please, let us talk about our consistencies instead.
| 725 |
6pat6 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:30:54pm |
re: #711 lobo91
Yeah, the whole needle thing would cure it for me, I’m quite sure! Just showing it would cure it! Don’t sound fun at all!
| 726 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:03pm |
re: #678 lobo91
I pay about $700 a year. Not really sure how that compares to other places, since this is the only house I’ve ever owned.
We are at $1200 here in New Jersey - and we have very little extreme weather. Our big hazards are taxes.
| 728 |
Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:27pm |
re: #705 Charles
Chickens and rats. In the bamboo.
You gotta find some better Chinese take-out places.
| 729 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:29pm |
It’s particularly appalling Governor Jindal would attack natural disaster science funding considering the amount of science required to keep water out of certain areas in Louisiana. It’s a real slap in the face of the very science his state relies upon for their land and safety.
| 730 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:30pm |
re: #691 OldLineTexan
“that I sent 170 $ Billion to, and continue to send…. well, I can now finally give them and the Kossacks and Puffers a hoot and say, “stick it!”
| 731 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:34pm |
Anyone get any leg tingles from either of these guys? No? Me neither.
| 732 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:35pm |
re: #721 VioletTiger
Oh, okay. For some reason I thought it was the VP.
Biden is kept in a separate location for an utterly different reason.
| 733 |
rain of lead Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:35pm |
re: #711 lobo91
Glad that was from WeMD, not personal experience.
That really doesn’t sound enjoyable…
any time the words needle and penis are in the same sentance……..
| 735 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:47pm |
| 737 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:52pm |
re: #653 Bloodnok
Obama was just elected.
We will wait and watch.
It was too early to trot Jindal out there.
Obama has weaknesses and vices just like the next guy.
Time passes things happen here and in the world that could change things.
As far as the MSM, those who aid and abet him…stop buying the paper.
Stop watching CNN,MSNBC, NBC, ABC. Don’t pay to see their movies.
| 738 |
JohnAdams Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:31:53pm |
So far I’ve only seen one man who seems to have the ambition, skill, and gravitas to take on this insanity.
Newt.
| 739 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:32:20pm |
re: #732 OldLineTexan
Biden is kept in a separate location for an utterly different reason.
He’s kept in a room that locks from the outside….
| 740 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:32:45pm |
Heads up for all you traveling lizards…
American Airlines Pilots Plan Chaos If Mediation Fails
The union that represents American Airlines pilots says it’s conducting drills, preparing to disrupt the airline’s flight schedule if federal mediation fails to bring a new contract agreement with management.
Union President Lloyd Hill said his group has decided against an all-out strike that would shut down the airline completely. Instead, the union is instead looking at a strategy to create random disruption and chaos at the nation’s second largest airline, he said.
“If I were the company, I wouldn’t be underestimating what’s going on,” he said.
The union’s decision to talk about its post-mediation plans appears designed to send a message to the Obama administration.
Union leaders said they believe it’s more likely they’ll be released from federal mediation if the administration understands the union will not call a general strike that would shut down the entire airline, interfering with interstate commerce.
Without a release from mediation, any strike action the union takes would be a violation of federal law.
The company reminded the union of that fact in a statement.
| 741 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:32:46pm |
re: #737 Afrocity
As far as the MSM, those who aid and abet him…stop buying the paper.
Stop watching CNN,MSNBC, NBC, ABC. Don’t pay to see their movies.
Upding.
| 742 |
Scion9 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:32:48pm |
re: #589 Mich-again
Up here in Michigan we kind of feel left out from all the fun and excitement all the other States get with natural disasters. So we make our own.
So global warming was caused by you guys? Thanks for nothing jerks.
/
| 743 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:03pm |
re: #723 deymond
I understand the devotion to science, but not all things flow from the government. Government is inherently a restrictive and destructive force.
Especially military science spending. Very destructive stuff.
| 745 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:11pm |
re: #726 DistantThunder
We are at $1200 here in New Jersey - and we have very little extreme weather. Our big hazards are taxes.
I just got our property tax statement for this year. They raised it about $100, to around $850.
That’s for the year, not per month, unlike NJ.
| 746 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:14pm |
I’d agree that a “Stimulus” bill [real or imagined] isn’t the best place to fund volcano monitoring, but it’s important and a legitimate federal expense.
whitehouse.gov
It was a dumb idea for Jindal to call it out in his response to Obama when there’s so many other egregious ‘offenses’ to rebut.
//That USGS is terrible, just terrible, I tell ya, gosh darnit, they need exercise
| 748 |
Cognito Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:20pm |
re: #738 JohnAdams
So far I’ve only seen one man who seems to have the ambition, skill, and gravitas to take on this insanity.
Newt.
I would vote enthusiastically for a Gingrich/Romney ticket.
| 749 |
Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:35pm |
re: #737 Afrocity
Obama was just elected.
We will wait and watch.
It was too early to trot Jindal out there.Obama has weaknesses and vices just like the next guy.
Time passes things happen here and in the world that could change things.
As far as the MSM, those who aid and abet him…stop buying the paper.
Stop watching CNN,MSNBC, NBC, ABC. Don’t pay to see their movies.
And tell their sponsors why you are no longer watching/reading.
| 751 |
pink freud Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:33:55pm |
re: #652 theheat
Jindal’s folksy-speak does not come off as earnest, it comes off as plain old ignorant. He’s anti-science, a creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, a piss poor speaker, and - for reasons unknown - the current darling of the Republican party. A 7th grade debate student could dismantle this guy in less than a minute.
For shit’s sake, GOP, wake the hell up.
To be fair, the man was accepted at both Yale and Harvard and graduated Oxford as a Rhodes scholar. He may have offended your ears and sensibilities but he’s no ‘hillbilly sophisticate’. Sure, he performed badly tonight and is severely tainted (read: unelectable, at least by me) by his support of the ID bill he signed into law in Louisiana but your assessment — especially that of being dismantled by a seventh grade debate student just sounds silly. He is, if nothing else, a sitting governor.
| 752 |
Gus Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:34:10pm |
re: #729 Sharmuta
It’s particularly appalling Governor Jindal would attack natural disaster science funding considering the amount of science required to keep water out of certain areas in Louisiana. It’s a real slap in the face of the very science his state relies upon for their land and safety.
What’s the total so far. Maybe they should not rebuild NO since it will remain a hazard and would not be cost effective for the American taxpayers (sarcasm). I’m sure a lot of money came by way of Health and Human Services, US Army Corps of Engineers, FEMA, USGS, NOAA, etc. A lot of it involving science and engineering.
| 754 |
brandon13 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:34:27pm |
Should have had Steele deliver the speech. I can already see that.
| 755 |
Dasher Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:34:29pm |
re: #706 DistantThunder
Mitt is not a creationist. Mitt is a financial expert. Mormons are notoriously honest. (The #1 ranked forensic accounting program in the country is at BYU).
Mitt is a turn-around expert. Mitt ran a major corporation AND a state. Under Mitt MA students were ranked #1 in science and #1 in Math. Mitt has an MBA and a JD.
Let’s give Mitt a second look.
George Bush was the first President with an MBA
| 756 |
notutopia Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:34:32pm |
Rats in the Kitchen
Joshuapundit, Rat Attack
joshuapundit.blogspot.com
| 757 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:34:42pm |
re: #732 OldLineTexan
Biden is kept under a separate location for an utterly different reason.
| 758 |
Cognito Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:02pm |
re: #740 NJDhockeyfan
Heads up for all you traveling lizards…
They need to suck it up and fly the stupid airplanes. Pretty much everyone is hurting right now. It sucks. Stop the temper tantrum, and be grateful you’ve got a job.
| 759 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:15pm |
re: #748 Cognito
That’s the ticket. All econ, with legislative skills to burn.
| 760 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:19pm |
Roast rat. Did he just cook that rat with the fur on?
| 761 |
avanti Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:22pm |
re: #652 theheat
Jindal’s folksy-speak does not come off as earnest, it comes off as plain old ignorant. He’s anti-science, a creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, a piss poor speaker, and - for reasons unknown - the current darling of the Republican party. A 7th grade debate student could dismantle this guy in less than a minute.
For shit’s sake, GOP, wake the hell up.
The Fox McCain voter focus group loved Jindal though. It confused me a bit, because I don’t think he did well.
| 762 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:33pm |
re: #645 Dianna
Lowering their blood pressure, I think.
That wouldn’t help.
If I recall, it’s a needle directly into the corpus cavernosum, followed by aspiration of blood, irrigation with saline, and/or injection of vasoconstricting drugs. Failing that, surgery to shunt blood away.
| 763 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:35pm |
re: #669 Naso Tang
With insurance, you’re asking someone to share your risk. No entitlement to shared risk exists.
| 764 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:47pm |
the Rat Attack story has a lot of good lines:
“The village president said I was the first sap (white person) ever to visit Thlangkang and he would erect an historic marker to commemorate the occasion.”
| 765 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:54pm |
| 766 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:35:57pm |
re: #755 Dasher
George Bush was the first President with an MBA
He was also a jet fighter pilot, further proof of his utter idiocy.
| 767 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:05pm |
re: #724 Stonemason
That really means nothing if no one sees it.
They don’t in Chicago.
They don’t in Houston, TX
Or New York City
or Virginia which looks a lot like DC now.
Or Florida.
People want to be acknowledged as people, but they also what to be respected for what makes them individuals.
I am a Republican yes
But the blacks I know who are not and never will be say that the GOP does not identify with their heritage or concerns.
| 768 |
Biff Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:19pm |
| 770 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:24pm |
re: #726 DistantThunder
We are at $1200 here in New Jersey - and we have very little extreme weather. Our big hazards are taxes.
Do you know that every one of the counties in NJ are in the top 50 in the country for property taxes? Taxes R us.
| 771 |
Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:35pm |
re: #748 Cognito
I would vote enthusiastically for a Gingrich/Romney ticket.
So would I, but I want no part of a Gingrich-related ticket. His negatives are too high and it would ensure a D win. Newt best belongs behind the scenes.
| 772 |
JohnAdams Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:36pm |
re: #758 Cognito
They need to suck it up and fly the stupid airplanes. Pretty much everyone is hurting right now. It sucks. Stop the temper tantrum, and be grateful you’ve got a job.
But Rahm Emanuel says there is opportunity in a crisis…
This is leadership.
| 773 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:56pm |
re: #754 brandon13
Should have had Steele deliver the speech. I can already see that.
Well, they should have had him deliver a speech.
But not that one. It still would have sucked.
| 774 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:36:58pm |
re: #745 lobo91
I just got our property tax statement for this year. They raised it about $100, to around $850.
That’s for the year, not per month, unlike NJ.
Oh, I thought we were talking property insurance premium. My taxes are about $7800 a year, and that’s on a small house.
| 775 |
Phil. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:37:29pm |
I thought the speech was a little cheesy but guess what (and I know this is probably news to you): at the present time, most Americans don’t hate President Obama. In fact, at the present time, most like him.
Jindal’s job was to be congratulatory while emphasizing differences between the two parties and regain back the trust of the electorate on the issues. He was the new happy face to Dick Cheney’s angry face.
If you think this is a dumb strategy, remember that the American electorate (in all its infinite wisdom) elected a man to the Presidency whose best preparation for this job as an executive was community organizing. That’s the American electorate you are dealing with currently. It is what it is unfortunately.
If you find this is beneath you, feel free remaining in the political wilderness.
| 776 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:37:33pm |
re: #761 avanti
The Fox McCain voter focus group loved Jindal though. It confused me a bit, because I don’t think he did well.
He was awful.
Just awful.
He has zero personality, zero charisma, and it came through loud and clear tonight.
He is great when there is an immediate crisis to “fix”, but I don’t think the man can think past next week. He cannot envision a long-term strategy at all.
| 777 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:37:43pm |
re: #745 lobo91
I just got our property tax statement for this year. They raised it about $100, to around $850.
That’s for the year, not per month, unlike NJ.
My head just exploded……..
| 778 |
J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:37:44pm |
re: #751 pink freud
Maybe being an “anti-science creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, [and] a piss poor speaker” are just a few of the requirements for being a Rhodes scholar…(not to mention a Yale/Harvard grad).
| 779 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:38:12pm |
re: #751 pink freud
Jindal and Palin are losers. We need an old-fashioned red-meat eating, experienced MALE, someone who’s all man, not a wussy Jindal. Does that make me a bigot? Newt or Romney would do just fine.
| 780 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:38:35pm |
re: #760 HelloDare
Roast rat. Did he just cook that rat with the fur on?
Rats? We got rats…..ON THE ROOF!
My parents neighborhood have them bad. They are attracted to citrus trees and they have a bunch on their lot. So, they had to set traps and put out poison…..but, they are still there! The sneaky little vermin! Rats on the Roof!
| 781 |
Fearless Fred Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:38:54pm |
re: #716 Charles
So then, I guess there have been like a hundred twenty attacks since ‘the beginning’, right?
//
| 782 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:38:59pm |
re: #779 garden18
Jindal and Palin are losers. We need an old-fashioned red-meat eating, experienced MALE, someone who’s all man, not a wussy Jindal. Does that make me a bigot? Newt or Romney would do just fine.
Michael Steele. Even the name screams at ya!
| 783 |
swamprat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:39:00pm |
Good thing Algore didn’t make this speech; we would have had five Pompeii’s and two Krakatoa’s before the words left his mouth.
| 785 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:39:06pm |
re: #751 pink freud
To be fair, the man was accepted at both Yale and Harvard and graduated Oxford as a Rhodes scholar. He may have offended your ears and sensibilities but he’s no ‘hillbilly sophisticate’. Sure, he performed badly tonight and is severely tainted (read: unelectable, at least by me) by his support of the ID bill he signed into law in Louisiana but your assessment — especially that of being dismantled by a seventh grade debate student just sounds silly. He is, if nothing else, a sitting governor.
All absolutely true - but he was awful. Just awful.
| 786 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:39:30pm |
re: #778 J.S.
Maybe being an “anti-science creationist, exorcism fan, hillbilly sophisticate, [and] a piss poor speaker” are just a few of the requirements for being a Rhodes scholar…(not to mention a Yale/Harvard grad).
/’Science-ist’!
| 788 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:39:59pm |
re: #787 reine.de.tout
never mind.
I got it
YGM now
| 789 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:02pm |
re: #777 VioletTiger
My head just exploded……..
The nice view of Pike’s Peak from my living room window isn’t the only reason I live in Colorado Springs…
| 790 |
Cognito Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:08pm |
re: #751 pink freud
To be fair, the man was accepted at both Yale and Harvard and graduated Oxford as a Rhodes scholar. He may have offended your ears and sensibilities but he’s no ‘hillbilly sophisticate’. Sure, he performed badly tonight and is severely tainted (read: unelectable, at least by me) by his support of the ID bill he signed into law in Louisiana but your assessment — especially that of being dismantled by a seventh grade debate student just sounds silly. He is, if nothing else, a sitting governor.
This, to me, is the worst aspect of what I might call the New Populism. No one gives himself permission to be smart — merely smart — for fear of coming off as some sort of ivy-gilded teacup.
It’s sad. And it’s dooming. Look what a decent vocabulary did for Barack Obama.
| 791 |
Bloodnok Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:09pm |
Good night folks. Keep the rats out of the bamboo while I’m gone.
| 793 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:28pm |
re: #743 Sharmuta
Especially military science spending. Very destructive stuff.
Long ago, when I used to work in the weapons development world, I worked on and I have seen such things that were the stuff of science fiction novels and movies, …
… and now you can buy much of it off the shelf at Walmart, made in China.
A weapons system is not so much in the hardware itself, as it is in what you can do with it.
It is truly a brave new world that we live in.
| 795 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:37pm |
re: #755 Dasher
George Bush was the first President with an MBA
Mitt is my idea of an appropriate personality for president. Competent but not a spotlight hog like Obama.
Obama embarrasses me with his self-aggrandizement. Makes him sound delusional.
| 796 |
pingjockey Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:39pm |
G’night folks. We’re taking a whuppin’ now, but we’ll get ‘em sooner or later. I just hope not too much later.
| 797 |
pink freud Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:44pm |
re: #785 reine.de.tout
All absolutely true - but he was awful. Just awful.
Embarrassingly awful. Agreed.
| 798 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:40:58pm |
re: #678 lobo91
I pay about $700 a year. Not really sure how that compares to other places, since this is the only house I’ve ever owned.
I had Baltimore Equitable perpetual insurance on my house - about $3,000 up front, never another payment. When I got divorced and moved to an apartment, I got about $2,000 back and have the rest in renter’s insurance. You can cancel any time and get all your money back.
I don’t think you can get this kind of insurance all over the country, but they’ve been in business here since 1794.
| 799 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:41:06pm |
Rat, chipmunk, squirrel melts. Not much difference.
| 800 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:41:09pm |
I lived in Oregon when St. Helens blew. We had plenty of geologists. However, we could have used some more ash removal engineers!
| 802 |
JohnAdams Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:41:36pm |
re: #771 Abu Al-Poopypants
So would I, but I want no part of a Gingrich-related ticket. His negatives are too high and it would ensure a D win. Newt best belongs behind the scenes.
Of course, now. Things change. Keep an eye on him. If there is any Republican with more thoroughly conceived plans and comprehensive vision, PLUS the stones to see them through, please share. Fuck the negatives. We all know it is hard medicine that cures this ill.
| 804 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:08pm |
re: #793 Syrah
Long ago, when I used to work in the weapons development world, I worked on and I have seen such things that were the stuff of science fiction novels and movies, …
… and now you can buy much of it off the shelf at Walmart, made in China.
A weapons system is not so much in the hardware itself, as it is in what you can do with it.
It is truly a brave new world that we live in.
Even if you could buy the weapon off the shelf at Wal-Mart, they won’t have any ammo for it in stock these days…
| 806 |
Phil. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:19pm |
re: #761 avanti
The Fox McCain voter focus group loved Jindal though. It confused me a bit, because I don’t think he did well.
That is what I am saying! God this is frustrating.
I realize many of you here are extremely intelligent and probably have graduate degrees. I myself have a PhD in Economics.
But you are not representative of the electorate! The electorate just elected a god-damn community organizer as its President.
Jindal is the happy face of American conservatism now. That the focus group liked is shouldn’t surprise you if you paid attention to how Obama won. Guys like Romney, while extremely intelligent, simply just don’t win anymore.
Is that fair? No. I’m sorry. But it is what it is. Adapt or die.
| 807 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:37pm |
re: #789 lobo91
The nice view of Pike’s Peak from my living room window isn’t the only reason I live in Colorado Springs…
I really liked your Garden of the Gods … I hope I am remembering that correctly.
| 809 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:42pm |
re: #772 JohnAdams
But Rahm Emanuel says there is opportunity in a crisis…
This is leadership.
My mother always told me lima beans were good for also…
| 810 |
Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:47pm |
re: #729 Sharmuta
That science is currently in Federal Court for it’s failure (and the blame goes in many directions) because of its failure - levee design flaws from the Feds.
However, I took Jindal’s remark not as an overt attack on Volcano science, specifically.
“and $140 million for something called “volcano monitoring.” Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C.”
I thought he used the volcano as a speech writing device to focus on the exploding Fed spending now by PresO and the Dems, which is the most salient point he had to make in his rebuttal - Imho.
| 811 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:50pm |
re: #798 Catttt
I had Baltimore Equitable perpetual insurance on my house - about $3,000 up front, never another payment. When I got divorced and moved to an apartment, I got about $2,000 back and have the rest in renter’s insurance. You can cancel any time and get all your money back.
I don’t think you can get this kind of insurance all over the country, but they’ve been in business here since 1794.
[Link: www.1794insurance.com…]
Never heard of it before. Thanks.
| 812 |
Stonemason Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:42:50pm |
re: #767 Afrocity
That really means nothing if no one sees it.
Bingo. The premise of my little rant, I do my part here, you do your part in your part of the world, someone else…and down the line. One of us is going to catch the lightning and be thrust on the stage, a bigger stage, and if the message is one of inclusion and honesty, it will reverberate no matter where it is spoken.
You mention people who feel the current GOP does not understand or identify with certain heritages, my problem is that Mr. Obama did not either, and they elected him.
I have had this discussion a few times, it turns out we have things in common with each other (not you and me, but people in general) that we can talk about. Our kids, our lives, and our jobs.
When we can get past the color, past the sex, past the religion, it will work, it has worked.
Keep talking to your neighbors, when they begin to understand that yo do care, they will begin to learn.
| 814 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:10pm |
re: #788 reine.de.tout
Happy B-d, saw it on the other thread.
| 815 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:10pm |
Let the RNC know your concerns! RNC grassroots
| 816 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:28pm |
re: #800 Sheepdogess
I lived in Oregon when St. Helens blew. We had plenty of geologists. However, we could have used some more ash removal engineers!
I remember it “snowed” ash in Denver after that…it was so weird. We had to brush it off our cars….sweep it off the patio, etc……Aurora, where I lived, is over 1000 miles away and it was several inches of ash.
| 817 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:39pm |
re: #779 garden18
Jindal and Palin are losers. We need an old-fashioned red-meat eating, experienced MALE, someone who’s all man, not a wussy Jindal. Does that make me a bigot? Newt or Romney would do just fine.
That would be yes.
| 818 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:41pm |
re: #790 Cognito
This, to me, is the worst aspect of what I might call the New Populism. No one gives himself permission to be smart — merely smart — for fear of coming off as some sort of ivy-gilded teacup.
It’s sad. And it’s dooming. Look what a decent vocabulary did for Barack Obama.
Arugal and $600 earrings suggestions from Michelle. Then we had Biden making 22 factual errors in his debate with Sarah Palin, but focus groups said he sounded “good.”
| 819 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:47pm |
re: #789 lobo91
The nice view of Pike’s Peak from my living room window isn’t the only reason I live in Colorado Springs…
Wow, sounds great, maybe when I retire…
| 820 |
Last Mohican Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:51pm |
re: #725 6pat6
Yeah, the whole needle thing would cure it for me, I’m quite sure! Just showing it would cure it! Don’t sound fun at all!
Sadly, it’s not a psychological thing. The needle has to actually go in to do the job. And if it were happening to you, you’d want the needle.
There’s a female equivalent to this problem, too. I don’t know if it’s as uncomfortable.
| 821 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:43:51pm |
re: #806 Phil.
That’s scary. It means that Republicans have also hopped on the sexless male leader bandwagon.
| 822 |
Catttt Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:01pm |
re: #805 Sheepdogess
Rats make great pets.
They do. I have a friend at work with two pet rats and have been filled in thoroughly on the little fellows.
I could say they also make a tasty snack, since I’m a catttt, but I won’t. :D
| 823 |
JohnAdams Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:24pm |
re: #775 Phil.
True enough. Majority of present company excluded, our electorate is ignorant, lazy, and easily duped by theatrical rhetoric force-fed through the media bottle they were weaned upon.
| 824 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:29pm |
“President Obama has pledged to cut the federal deficit in half during his first term. A tall order considering he doubled the deficit in one day by signing the largest spending bill in our nations’ history,”
| 826 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:51pm |
re: #804 Gort
Even if you could buy the weapon off the shelf at Wal-Mart, they won’t have any ammo for it in stock these days…
You misunderstand.
Not every weapons system goes BANG!.
Some of them go “thump” in the night, unseen, unknown and undefended.
| 827 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:56pm |
re: #807 OldLineTexan
I really liked your Garden of the Gods … I hope I am remembering that correctly.
Yup. Before we bought our current house, we lived in an apartment in that part of town. We always take put-of-town visitors there.
| 828 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:44:57pm |
re: #806 Phil.
Jindal is not electable. This speech was completely uninspiring and poorly delivered. He did not present any reason to consider him as a front runner- none. And I’ll wager that we didn’t sway anyone to his side tonight that wasn’t already firmly behind him. He may have even cost himself, and I believe he did.
| 829 |
I heart the USA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:45:14pm |
re: #706 DistantThunder
Mitt is not a creationist. Mitt is a financial expert. Mormons are notoriously honest. (The #1 ranked forensic accounting program in the country is at BYU).
Mitt is a turn-around expert. Mitt ran a major corporation AND a state. Under Mitt MA students were ranked #1 in science and #1 in Math. Mitt has an MBA and a JD.
Let’s give Mitt a second look.
Mitt was my choice from the start and I still don’t believe he is ‘unelectable’ as I heard from so many conservative friends during the primaries. They did the usual ‘we need a moderate’ and voted McCain. I am finding my ‘I told you so’s’ to be bittersweet at best…
| 831 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:45:26pm |
| 832 |
Dianna Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:45:28pm |
re: #762 Last Mohican
That wouldn’t help.
If I recall, it’s a needle directly into the corpus cavernosum, followed by aspiration of blood, irrigation with saline, and/or injection of vasoconstricting drugs. Failing that, surgery to shunt blood away.
My male swears it’s because otherwise the female would kill him.
| 833 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:46:08pm |
re: #830 ploome hineni
No, I added that. I thought I made that clear. Sorry.
| 834 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:46:39pm |
re: #824 NJDhockeyfan
“President Obama has pledged to cut the federal deficit in half during his first term. A tall order considering he doubled the deficit in one day by signing the largest spending bill in our nations’ history,”
details, details…..all the brainwashed masses heard was BUSH caused it and Obama wants to fix it. Nevermind he is spending money at the highest rate in our history with no end in sight…..
| 835 |
COconTIME Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:47:18pm |
re: #806 Phil.
That is what I am saying! God this is frustrating.
I realize many of you here are extremely intelligent and probably have graduate degrees. I myself have a PhD in Economics.
But you are not representative of the electorate! The electorate just elected a god-damn community organizer as its President.
Jindal is the happy face of American conservatism now. That the focus group liked is shouldn’t surprise you if you paid attention to how Obama won. Guys like Romney, while extremely intelligent, simply just don’t win anymore.
Is that fair? No. I’m sorry. But it is what it is. Adapt or die.
FOX lost all credibility when they started filling airtime with “The Red Eye”, giving hukabee his own show, and letting shep do “britney watch”.
Why in gods name would anyone feel that this is a credible news source…bring back the FOX of 3-5 yrs ago.
On the bright side they cant be marked in the “news” column for fairness doctrine purposes
| 836 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:47:37pm |
How about some happy news?
Brazil’s best job? Paint nude Carnival models
RIO DE JANEIRO - Betto Almeida is the Mr. Lucky of Rio’s Carnival.
The 36-year-old artist awakes at 8 a.m. Has a little breakfast. Survives a commute through the city’s tough traffic. Arrives at the office by 11.
Then he spends hours painting the bodies of gorgeous women — and earning as much as $2,000 a day.
“You wouldn’t believe how many applications I get for an assistant,” Almeida deadpanned, never taking his eyes from his work as he brushed bright orange paint on the stomach of a model in his glass-enclosed studio under the grandstands at the Sambadrome, where Rio’s Carnival parades ended Tuesday at dawn.
“But it’s hard work, man. I take my job seriously.”
| 837 |
Randall Gross Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:47:38pm |
re: #504 tradewind
He’s a governor, which means he doesn’t legislate.
| 838 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:47:55pm |
re: #835 COconTIME
I agree, except, I kinda like Red Eye….those guys are funny
| 839 |
Jack Burton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:48:12pm |
re: #828 Sharmuta
Jindal is not electable. This speech was completely uninspiring and poorly delivered. He did not present any reason to consider him as a front runner- none. And I’ll wager that we didn’t sway anyone to his side tonight that wasn’t already firmly behind him. He may have even cost himself, and I believe he did.
Better it happen now so we can yank away that “next Reagen” title that people are tripping over themselves to hand to him, than closer to 2012 Primaries.
| 840 |
HelloDare Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:48:23pm |
Would the stalks turn yellow overnight? I smell a rat!
| 841 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:48:27pm |
Fox is the MSM. It is a business. Period. Do not look there for ANY support.
| 842 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:48:56pm |
Who’s the blonde on FOX and who has ever had an attorney involved while buying their home?
| 843 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:49:12pm |
re: #806 Phil.
That is what I am saying! God this is frustrating.
I realize many of you here are extremely intelligent and probably have graduate degrees. I myself have a PhD in Economics.
But you are not representative of the electorate! The electorate just elected a god-damn community organizer as its President.
Jindal is the happy face of American conservatism now. That the focus group liked is shouldn’t surprise you if you paid attention to how Obama won. Guys like Romney, while extremely intelligent, simply just don’t win anymore.
Is that fair? No. I’m sorry. But it is what it is. Adapt or die.
Well then it’s time to smarten up the people. We were fed pablum by the RNC and the McCain campaign. Honestly, I don’t understand why every neighborhood, in addition to a Sylvan learning center, doesn’t have a Money School where average people can learn about business and markets and finance.
| 844 |
solomonpanting Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:49:13pm |
Obama’s cheerleaders, uh, press, call this an analysis. Seems more like a review of a speech by Stalin or Mao:
Analysis: Obama address renews audacity to hope
…the president used his address to Congress on Tuesday night to tap the deep well of American optimism — the never-say-die spirit that every president tries to capture in words. And great presidents embody.
Pravda couldn’t be further from the troof.
| 845 |
Sharmuta Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:49:15pm |
re: #810 Picayune
Funny- I should take his attack on science as a metaphor, but he wants me to take the Bible as literal and scientific when it’s the metaphor.
Sorry- he’s shown more than once that he’s anti-science and tonight was just another example. You can kid yourself if you want to, but I’ll continue to take him at face value when he slights science.
| 846 |
JacksonTn Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:49:25pm |
re: #806 Phil.
That is what I am saying! God this is frustrating.
I realize many of you here are extremely intelligent and probably have graduate degrees. I myself have a PhD in Economics.
But you are not representative of the electorate! The electorate just elected a god-damn community organizer as its President.
Jindal is the happy face of American conservatism now. That the focus group liked is shouldn’t surprise you if you paid attention to how Obama won. Guys like Romney, while extremely intelligent, simply just don’t win anymore.
Is that fair? No. I’m sorry. But it is what it is. Adapt or die.
What are you trying to say …that less educated people will vote for Jindal just because they don’t know any better - I assure you there are plenty of people not as educated as you who WILL NOT vote for Jindal … I did not go to college and I did not support Obama and I will not support Jindal … you might be surprised at how many of us see through the bullshit … I think that most people who voted for Obama did it out of some sort of weird “love” for him or white guilt …
I am not giving up …there will be someone to take him on …there is time to find the right person … and like I have said before …Obama may just do himself in …
| 847 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:49:32pm |
The sooner we figure out that we have NO FRIENDS in the MSM the better off we will be. We have talk radio and the blogosphere. Let’s harness it to advance our guys.
| 848 |
VioletTiger Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:50:00pm |
re: #453 Afrocity
say what you want, I was there. If it would have not been for Puma McCains loss would have been worse. They were the reason that PA was even in play. We worked too damn hard for someone to diminish our work.
But if you feel you don’t need them in 2012, I am sure they can oblige you.
The PUMAs indeed worked very hard and we do certainly need them in 2012. They are great Americans.
| 850 |
lobo91 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:50:07pm |
re: #819 VioletTiger
Wow, sounds great, maybe when I retire…
We really enjoy it here. It’s big enough that we never have to go anywhere to get things (although, that pretty much describes anywhere that has high-speed internet and UPS delivery today, I suppose), and small enough that it’s not an overpriced, traffic choked mess like Denver.
And the fact that it’s about 70/30 Republican to Democrat is a plus.
| 851 |
avanti Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:50:57pm |
re: #746 Gort
I’d agree that a “Stimulus” bill [real or imagined] isn’t the best place to fund volcano monitoring, but it’s important and a legitimate federal expense.
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov…]
It was a dumb idea for Jindal to call it out in his response to Obama when there’s so many other egregious ‘offenses’ to rebut.//That USGS is terrible, just terrible, I tell ya, gosh darnit, they need exercise
No matter what you think of Obama, he’s doing the internet thing very well. Now we’ll have 1000’s of GOP bloggers watching where the pork is going and how it’s spent. Might kick him in the butt in the long run, but a decent idea.
| 853 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:51:04pm |
| 854 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:51:04pm |
My daughter had a pet rat. Name was Spit. She loved it. Eventually it grew a tumor on its head and I took it to the vet. the vet said that it was unlikely that he could save Spit, but that if we wanted then he would surgically remove the tumor for a few hundred dollars. I let my daughter think about that and then let her decide yea or nay for surgery. Yup, we did the surgery. A month later Spit, wrapped in a sock, was consigned to our small pet graveyard (by the bird bath) and given an appropriate marker - his food dish turned upside down.
Did I tell you I bloody hate rats and especially find their nasty scaly tails abhorrent? I think she had that rat just to gross me out…
| 855 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:51:13pm |
re: #842 jorline
Who’s the blonde on FOX and who has ever had an attorney involved while buying their home?
It happens a lot. Some people prefer to use a lawyer rather than a title company. It is more expensive and I don’t think they do a very good job.
In some states like Massachusetts you must use an attorney. I wonder who wrote that law?
| 856 |
Phil. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:51:23pm |
re: #821 garden18
That’s scary. It means that Republicans have also hopped on the sexless male leader bandwagon.
Call it whatever you want. But the public wants the happy face of conservatism, not the Dick Cheney angry face. Ronald Reagan smiled a lot and he was a bad ass not to be messed with…it’s really not such a bad thing.
re: #823 JohnAdams
True enough. Majority of present company excluded, our electorate is ignorant, lazy, and easily duped by theatrical rhetoric force-fed through the media bottle they were weaned upon.
I would not have agreed with you before but after 2008, I completely agree. To elect with NO executive experience as the chief executive of the nation is completely irresponsible. It would be like promoting the janitor to run Microsoft.
But guess what, the nation did just that. You live. You learn.
re: #828 Sharmuta
Jindal is not electable. This speech was completely uninspiring and poorly delivered. He did not present any reason to consider him as a front runner- none. And I’ll wager that we didn’t sway anyone to his side tonight that wasn’t already firmly behind him. He may have even cost himself, and I believe he did.
As someone else mentioned, the focus group which showed close to unanimous support, even among non-republicans suggests otherwise.
I’m sorry if you find this beneath you and I can understand your frustrations, but I live in the world as it is, not necessarily as I want it to be.
| 857 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:51:56pm |
re: #839 ArchangelMichael
Better it happen now so we can yank away that “next Reagen” title that people are tripping over themselves to hand to him, than closer to 2012 Primaries.
Unless we can develop a new accelerated cloning procedure, we will not have a “new Reagan” ready in time for the next election. We have a severe leadership problem in the Republican party. The Democrats do as well, but they make up for it by having a handsome guy that can read a teleprompter like no one else….never mind that behind that facade beats the heart of socialist…..pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
| 858 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:52:09pm |
re: #842 jorline
Who’s the blonde on FOX and who has ever had an attorney involved while buying their home?
It’s required here in new Jersey, unless you waive the option.
| 859 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:52:13pm |
re: #826 Syrah
You misunderstand.
Not every weapons system goes BANG!.
Some of them go “thump” in the night, unseen, unknown and undefended.
Indeed. But those that do use ammo can also go ‘thump’ instead of ‘bang’ - with a can…
| 860 |
J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:52:15pm |
re: #834 Desert Dog
I think what we got tonight (re: Obama’s speech) is what the Zero did during the election campaign — and that is this — Obama wants to be all things to all people. Remember that line about his being a “blank cipher” which just reflects whatever it is you want to see? That’s Obama, and the Zero did it again tonight…He’s promised everything to everyone — yet how on earth the Zero can realize any of this is completely beyond me…
| 863 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:52:51pm |
re: #842 jorline
Who’s the blonde on FOX and who has ever had an attorney involved while buying their home?
Some states require it, I think…..for the paperwork….Or, maybe she is in the mob and her lawyer follows her wherever she goes?
| 864 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:53:02pm |
| 865 |
nyc redneck Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:53:14pm |
i have never seen jindal speak before. i wasn’t even sure what he looked like.
but i was not impressed. because he seemed nervous.
too folksy and unprofessional. i couldn’t focus on his message.
he didn’t sell himself well.
i’m wondering if politics is just acting now. a decent looking candidate who can deliver an acceptable speech.
wow. promise stuff and endear yourself to the most people.
who ever set up O, knew what they were doing.
| 866 |
I heart the USA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:53:20pm |
re: #755 Dasher
George Bush was the first President with an MBA
Yes, but he was a ‘moron’ because he had an ‘R’ after his name. Degrees from Yale and Harvard mean nothing if a politician has that ‘R’. Remember in the 2000 race how that idiot Kerry’s Yale degree was touted as proof of his intellect? But the MSM told us Bush only got into Yale because of his family (true), while implying that John Forbes Kerry got in on his brains.
| 867 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:53:23pm |
re: #862 taxfreekiller
On Jindal:
La. was crooked before he took over, it is better.
They got mafia, got lawless judges, got dock worker unions who know the kill zone, got gangs in NO that scare any one, the Cajun smugglers know more about rum running than the Kennedys, the people who work the river on barges are just a bit rough and will throw a body or two over the side for a fee. On top of that cowboys, oil drilling workers and lots and lots of trucking company people do trucks from the docks.He got elected in that state and is still alive, has to be some smart IMO.
He4 is very smart, I am sure. He is utterly unelectable.
| 868 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:53:59pm |
Bobby Jindal blew his chance tonight for 1012.
IMHO his delivery and message sucked…next!
| 869 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:54:02pm |
re: #860 J.S.
I think what we got tonight (re: Obama’s speech) is what the Zero did during the election campaign — and that is this — Obama wants to be all things to all people. Remember that line about his being a “blank cipher” which just reflects whatever it is you want to see? That’s Obama, and the Zero did it again tonight…He’s promised everything to everyone — yet how on earth the Zero can realize any of this is completely beyond me…
One day, I hope, he will get called on all this…he is over promising and under delivering. That bill has to come due one day….right?
| 871 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:01pm |
re: #812 Stonemason
Bingo. The premise of my little rant, I do my part here, you do your part in your part of the world, someone else…and down the line. One of us is going to catch the lightning and be thrust on the stage, a bigger stage, and if the message is one of inclusion and honesty, it will reverberate no matter where it is spoken.
You mention people who feel the current GOP does not understand or identify with certain heritages, my problem is that Mr. Obama did not either, and they elected him.I have had this discussion a few times, it turns out we have things in common with each other (not you and me, but people in general) that we can talk about. Our kids, our lives, and our jobs.
When we can get past the color, past the sex, past the religion, it will work, it has worked.Keep talking to your neighbors, when they begin to understand that yo do care, they will begin to learn.
….Because he gave them what they wanted and craved yet he lacked substance. It is like buying the generic brand when you cannot afford the real thing. A quick fix. Many knew that too but they did not care.
They are not going to get past the sex or color because it does matter. Womens rights matter to me. Military spending matters to someone. Gay rights matters to someone. I am not going to walk up to a gay person and say get past your gayness and vote for me if I am an anti-gay marriage politician. Did you know that many gays, not enough but a number did not vote for Obama for this reason?
You are right like Roe V. wade. Women will never be a voting block unless they stop letting this issue divide them. This election we saw both female candidates torn to shreds. Yes that matters to me.
I saw many blacks voting for a disgusting empty suit just because he was black. Yes that matters to me.
It matters to me that a woman was criticized :because she decided to carry a downs syndrome child to term, because she was so called “neglecting her family” while she campaigned.
Yeah it matters to me that Michale Steele is being called the Obama clone.
| 872 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:07pm |
Frank Luntz vs. Penn and Teller.
| 873 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:10pm |
re: #866 I heart the USA
Yes, but he was a ‘moron’ because he had an ‘R’ after his name. Degrees from Yale and Harvard mean nothing if a politician has that ‘R’. Remember in the 2000 race how that idiot Kerry’s Yale degree was touted as proof of his intellect? But the MSM told us Bush only got into Yale because of his family (true), while implying that John Forbes Kerry got in on his brains.
Yes, and when the grades for both of them came out, Bush had higher marks. Once that little fact came to light, all talk of Bush’s Yale days ended (at least the academic portions)
| 874 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:12pm |
re: #859 Gort
Indeed. But those that do use ammo can also go ‘thump’ instead of ‘bang’ - with a can…
… of whoop-ass.
The mind is the ultimate weapon. Creativity is a most dangerous faculty.
| 875 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:22pm |
| 876 |
Randall Gross Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:27pm |
Zero substance from Obama, and Jindal gave zero substance in return. It was a lose-lose.
| 877 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:32pm |
re: #866 I heart the USA
The “F” is for Forbes?
I swear, I have only seen it spelled out as “F*cking”.
/
| 878 |
Dustyvet Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:41pm |
re: #134 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
To go to Vegas?
Let me guess, what’s left of the USA is ruled by Obama’s head in a jar.
Then I’ve been looking in thee wrong place LT, I’ve been keeping my eye on a box of rocks…:(
| 880 |
JohnAdams Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:55:59pm |
re: #868 jorline
Bobby Jindal blew his chance tonight for 1012.
IMHO his delivery and message sucked…next!
Remember Bill Clinton’s first address at the DNC. He put the whole country to sleep. Four years later he was President. Drawing no parallels here though.
| 881 |
Randall Gross Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:56:12pm |
| 882 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:56:13pm |
/ Could it be that Jindal is the anti-Obama even to the extent that he speaks worse on teleprompter than off , whilst Obama exhibits the opposite?
| 883 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:56:39pm |
re: #855 NJDhockeyfan
It happens a lot. Some people prefer to use a lawyer rather than a title company. It is more expensive and I don’t think they do a very good job.
In some states like Massachusetts you must use an attorney. I wonder who wrote that law?
Thanks…I’ve bought several homes, all in Texas, and never thought of using an attorney…nor anyone I know has.
| 884 |
J.S. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:56:40pm |
re: #869 Desert Dog
Eventually the sh*t will hit the fan, and it won’t be pretty…(it simply can’t continue…hmmm…I should go through that speech of Obama’s and just look for all the promises…it’s breath-taking, given the state of the economy…)
| 885 |
Phil. Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:02pm |
re: #843 DistantThunder
Well then it’s time to smarten up the people. We were fed pablum by the RNC and the McCain campaign. Honestly, I don’t understand why every neighborhood, in addition to a Sylvan learning center, doesn’t have a Money School where average people can learn about business and markets and finance.
And how do you smarten up the people? Face it, you’ve been sending your kids to schools full of liberals who fill your kid’s heads with PC garbage for decades and now you have the electorate that you have.
You change the electorate but electing someone electable who EXPLAINS why conservatism is better for American than liberalism.
Liberalism is easy to “explain” - here, have some money.
Conservatism takes some time to explain.
| 886 |
Gort Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:03pm |
re: #874 Syrah
… of whoop-ass.
The mind is the ultimate weapon. Creativity is a most dangerous faculty.
upding!
| 887 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:07pm |
re: #856 Phil.
But Jindal has no juice in him! Like Obama, he has the persona of an android.
| 888 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:09pm |
re: #882 Gort
/ Could it be that Jindal is the anti-Obama even to the extent that he speaks worse on teleprompter than off , whilst Obama exhibits the opposite?
One upding for the use of “whilst”!
| 889 |
brandon13 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:15pm |
re: #875 Wishing
Yup, the MSM likes Jindal because he is unelectable. Period.
Well, CBN is the Christian Broadcasting Network. So that’s why I was saying it wasn’t a shock to see them give Jindal a great review.
| 890 |
Fearless Fred Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:27pm |
re: #830 ploome hineni
I did not watch, but if that is what Jindal said
it was a terrible thing to say…the politics of race again given legitimacy by a Republican
the Republicans want to laud Nobamas election of the basis of his race…they are stupid fools
they have to ignore NObamas race, and concentrate on his job
and incidentally, NObama was brought up in a white family, has an education and it where he is because his mother’s family made that possible
the ‘African’ in his identity, came from the sperm donor, who abandoned and ignored him, and ran as soon as he was able
the Republicans want to laud Nobamas election of the basis of his race…they are stupid fools
No — Republicans don’t. That’s partly why Republicans lost. It was a much greater phenomenon that Democrats voted based upon their stupid feelings of ‘white’ guilt. …… GOD, I’m sooo glad I’m pink orange and brown. How many people are really ‘white’ anyway? Hmm, …. ?
Hmmmm, sorry —- you’re prolly referring to a few Republican ‘leaders’. You are probably rt after all. Sorry. Reading upthread now …
| 891 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:57:57pm |
re: #889 brandon13
Well, CBN is the Christian Broadcasting Network. So that’s why I was saying it wasn’t a shock to see them give Jindal a great review.
He is a CREATIONIST!
gah
| 892 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:58:28pm |
re: #847 Wishing
The sooner we figure out that we have NO FRIENDS in the MSM the better off we will be.
Study: Network coverage biased toward GOP
The major U.S. broadcasters demonstrated bias towards Republicans in their coverage of presidential campaigns between 1992 and 2004, a new book contends.
Maria Elizabeth Grabe and Erik Bucy, both associate professors of telecommunications at Indiana University, are the authors of “Image Bite Politics: News and the Visual Framing of Elections” published by Oxford University Press. They analyzed coverage of the elections on ABC, CBS and NBC and concluded all three networks showed a slight tilt to the Republican side.
“We don’t think this is journalists conspiring to favor Republicans. We think they’re just so beat up and tired of being accused of a liberal bias that they unknowingly give Republicans the benefit in coverage,” said Grabe. “It’s self-censorship that journalists might be imposing on themselves.”
/see, you’re wrong
| 893 |
Scion9 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:58:30pm |
re: #846 JacksonTn
Yeah. College grads and ‘intelligent’ people overwhelmingly voted for Obama.
| 894 |
Neo Con since 9-11 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:58:35pm |
| 895 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:58:45pm |
re: #889 brandon13
Well, CBN is the Christian Broadcasting Network. So that’s why I was saying it wasn’t a shock to see them give Jindal a great review.
Sorry, I misread your post!
Getting late, I guess!
| 896 |
Silvergirl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:59:00pm |
re: #600 The Shadow Do
Romney is a lot more electable today than just a few of months ago I think. I was not a backer then but probably should have been. I look around the current conservative landscape and realize that we missed something with the guy. The Mormon objection was a misdirect by the media and his GOP opponents. Shame really. I now hope that he gears up to run again.
/now if only he would take up something like cutting brush, or shooting bears, or dirt biking or something! Just get dirty a little bit Mitt. Forget to shave once in a while or somesuch at least!
Mess up his hair.
| 897 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:59:26pm |
re: #889 brandon13
Well, CBN is the Christian Broadcasting Network. So that’s why I was saying it wasn’t a shock to see them give Jindal a great review.
DWN gave a really bad review
(Devil Worshiping Network)
They are still pissed about that exorcism, I guess.
| 898 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:59:26pm |
re: #853 jaunte
Hey juante! I don’t know if you’d really want that particular job - from the link
“You wouldn’t believe how many applications I get for an assistant,” Almeida deadpanned, never taking his eyes from his work as he brushed bright orange paint on the stomach of a model in his glass-enclosed studio under the grandstands at the Sambadrome, where Rio’s Carnival parades ended Tuesday at dawn.“But it’s hard work, man. I take my job seriously.”[emohasis added realwest]
I mean, who wants to work hard when you’re retired? Well, except for putting food on the table and all, I mean!
| 899 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:59:32pm |
re: #852 Iron Fist
I agree. They said they voted for McCain as a protest vote. I voted for him because I felt he was the best man. I would not vote for Palin if I did not have confidence in her abilities. Obama was never on my radar even during the primaries. HRC should have been the DNC nominee. She lost. and even after that Obama was not the best candidate.
| 900 |
Randall Gross Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:00:17pm |
What’s interesting is that even CBN caught that Jindal was cramming from McCain campaign speeches.
| 901 |
Sheepdogess Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:00:22pm |
re: #868 jorline
One uninspired speech and he’s outa here?
The first time I saw Jindal was on Leno. Jindal made mincemeat of him. Interestingly, the youtube video has been removed due to third party copyright issues.
Hmmm.
| 902 |
Wishing Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:00:53pm |
I think HRC and Obambi had a cheat contest. Whoever could steal the most votes, the other guy would step down. the zero won, hands down.
| 904 |
jaunte Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:01:13pm |
re: #898 realwest
Just thinking ahead; I think I’m not going to be retiring for awhile, and it looks like a nice environment!
| 905 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:01:19pm |
re: #863 Desert Dog
Some states require it, I think…..for the paperwork….Or, maybe she is in the mob and her lawyer follows her wherever she goes?
In Texas we can bring guns to our closing.
//
| 906 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:01:20pm |
re: #901 Sheepdogess
Just hope he does not have a Kennedy V. Nixon moment.
| 907 |
capitalist piglet Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:01:23pm |
re: #893 Scion9
Yeah. College grads and ‘intelligent’ people overwhelmingly voted for Obama.
Indoctrinated people voted for Obama.
And without the Moron Vote™ (check out the people in Ziegler’s documentary), he would have lost.
| 908 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:01:36pm |
re: #883 jorline
Hey hi there jorline! Uh, y’all have an e-mail!
| 910 |
Fearless Fred Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:02:14pm |
re: #852 Iron Fist
I don’t know. You campaign with the electorate that you have, not the electorate as you would have it be. But there is something that just sticks in my craw when someone says they’re going to vote for Obama because he is black, or Sarah Palin because she is a woman. I’d feel the same way if someone told me they were voting for McCain because he is a white, or because he’s a man.
…….. but it might be sorta fun to vote for someone who said “vote for me, ‘cause i’m PINK! don’tcha think? (skin color — not commie-statist tendencies)
| 911 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:02:25pm |
| 912 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:02:38pm |
re: #898 realwest
Hey juante! I don’t know if you’d really want that particular job - from the link
I mean, who wants to work hard when you’re retired? Well, except for putting food on the table and all, I mean!
Hey RW…good to see you.
| 914 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:03:12pm |
re: #894 Neo Con since 9-11
When we have an American version of Margaret Thatcher, I’ll vote for her.
| 917 |
Dave the..... Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:04:19pm |
871 Afrocity
I saw many blacks voting for a disgusting empty suit just because he was black. Yes that matters to me
Or was able to pass himself off as “African-American”. He does have a dark tint to his skin because his biological father is (was) a visitor from Africa. And MSM likes to tell us everytime he “plays hoops” (hint to you in MSM, we used to call it that back in the mid to late 80s, but it’s an old slang now), so does that make him “African_American”?
| 918 |
SteveC Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:04:22pm |
re: #875 Wishing
Yup, the MSM likes Jindal because he is unelectable. Period.
Lizard brethren, we are still four years away. Political fortunes increase and decrease. People step on their own tie and make themselves unelectable. Men (and women) you’ve never even heard of yet will step forward.
The person who accepts the nomination of the GOP in 2012 probably hasn’t even been discussed here yet.
(And we have to make sure he’s chosen by the GOP, not the MSM!)
| 919 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:04:22pm |
re: #904 jaunte
Well I must say it certainly sounds like a nice work envrionment, although I suppose y’all would want to check it out first hand brush before deciding!
| 920 |
Tigger2005 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:04:34pm |
I don’t get it.
The Republicans chewed up the scenery at the RNC. Rudy’s speech in particular was awesome. Fred didn’t do so good a job, but he made up for it with that Web speech later. There are good speakers in the GOP, who can enunciate conservative values clearly. Why are they not being put front and center?
| 921 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:05:41pm |
The economy and personal experience with government will be the biggest lessons the liberals will get over the next 4 years. MA residents are already having buyers regrets over the universal health coverage they voted for.
We will be a nation mugged by reality - I just hoped we aren’t nuked into oblivion in the meantime.
| 922 |
Fearless Fred Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:06:15pm |
re: #920 Tigger2005
I don’t get it.
The Republicans chewed up the scenery at the RNC. Rudy’s speech in particular was awesome. Fred didn’t do so good a job, but he made up for it with that Web speech later. There are good speakers in the GOP, who can enunciate conservative values clearly. Why are they not being put front and center?
“put there” by whom?
| 923 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:06:22pm |
As for those who thought Jindal sounded like a hick, the up-and-down of his voice was not good. I’ve never heard him speak before, but if the newspaperman from NOLA on CSPAN was correct (that he tends to speak too rapidly for journalists to take notes), I suspect he was overcompensating. If that’s true, it’s a correctable problem.
| 924 |
I heart the USA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:06:28pm |
re: #914 garden18
When we have an American version of Margaret Thatcher, I’ll vote for her.
Cyber high-5 and an ‘amen’ to that! May you be blessed by a thousand updings!
| 925 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:06:29pm |
Sorry I’m let coming in. I couldm’t really post here and watch Obama (too tired after a long day). I felt like I needed a bingo card watching Obama and Jindal with their buzzwords.
| 926 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:06:43pm |
re: #920 Tigger2005
I don’t get it.
The Republicans chewed up the scenery at the RNC. Rudy’s speech in particular was awesome. Fred didn’t do so good a job, but he made up for it with that Web speech later. There are good speakers in the GOP, who can enunciate conservative values clearly. Why are they not being put front and center?
Because they want to put their best creationist foot forward.
| 927 |
SFGoth Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:07:05pm |
Exactly how does the GOP have any credibility on the economy anymore? Bueller?
| 928 |
DistantThunder Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:07:24pm |
re: #917 Dave the…..
871 Afrocity
Or was able to pass himself off as “African-American”. He does have a dark tint to his skin because his biological father is (was) a visitor from Africa. And MSM likes to tell us everytime he “plays hoops” (hint to you in MSM, we used to call it that back in the mid to late 80s, but it’s an old slang now), so does that make him “African_American”?
Men’s Health has him on the cover as Jock in Chief holding a football. I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that. Tackle him and he would break.
| 929 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:07:52pm |
re: #912 jorline
Good to see you, too! Didja see my #908 to you?!
| 930 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:08:19pm |
re: #920 Tigger2005
I don’t get it.
The Republicans chewed up the scenery at the RNC. Rudy’s speech in particular was awesome. Fred didn’t do so good a job, but he made up for it with that Web speech later. There are good speakers in the GOP, who can enunciate conservative values clearly. Why are they not being put front and center?
What’s wrong? You don’t think that Jindal is a great orator?/
| 931 |
Desert Dog Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:08:39pm |
re: #921 DistantThunder
The economy and personal experience with government will be the biggest lessons the liberals will get over the next 4 years. MA residents are already having buyers regrets over the universal health coverage they voted for.
We will be a nation mugged by reality - I just hoped we aren’t nuked into oblivion in the meantime.
Obama and the Dems have their chance in the drivers seat now. They can live and die by their actions. They will not be able to turn on the BushBasher and make hay any longer. They will have to stand on THEIR track record. From what I seen so far from the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Troika, they are going to screw up BAD. So, lets not panic yet, bide our time, and swoop in once it’s clear the Dems are wrong, wrong, wrong…..
| 932 |
garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:09:42pm |
re: #924 I heart the USA
Maggie has more balls than Obama and Jindal combined.
| 933 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:09:49pm |
re: #921 DistantThunder
Hi there DT! Well if MA residents are already having buyers regrets over the universal health coverage they voted for, then why do they keep voting for the same dumbasses all the time (local level, but Kennedy and Kerry are better known examples!).
| 934 |
Syrah Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:10:04pm |
re: #920 Tigger2005
I don’t get it.
The Republicans chewed up the scenery at the RNC. Rudy’s speech in particular was awesome. Fred didn’t do so good a job, but he made up for it with that Web speech later. There are good speakers in the GOP, who can enunciate conservative values clearly. Why are they not being put front and center?
Becuase there are too many people in charge of the RNC who think that the Image is more important than is the message.
| 935 |
Dave the..... Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:10:20pm |
Distant Thunder…
In Philadelphia, Obama passed up cheese steak for $100 a pound foriegn ham.
In DC, he served $100 a serving meat.
Any one like that wouldn’t last 5 minutes in a full contact sport.
| 936 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:11:15pm |
re: #931 Desert DogSorry my friend, but they’ll get away with blaming this all on Bush for at least one year, probably two, thanks to the MSM. Hell Obama as much as said he’s inherited this mess from the failed policies of the past.
| 937 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:11:23pm |
re: #901 Sheepdogess
One uninspired speech and he’s outa here?
The first time I saw Jindal was on Leno. Jindal made mincemeat of him. Interestingly, the youtube video has been removed due to third party copyright issues.
[Link: youtomb.mit.edu…]
Hmmm.
Sparing with Leno is a far cry from delivering you parties response to Obama first Congressional address.
My humble opinion…you have yours.
| 938 |
deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:11:53pm |
re: #920 Tigger2005
Republicans tend to be more conservative by nature (congressional spending notwithstanding). Obama had a genuine shot as a Democrat because Democrats don’t mind voting for someone just because they are a novelty. Republicans, on the other hand, are hypersensitive to the idea that a candidate is being foisted upon them simply because the candidate is likeable or electable.
| 939 |
Silvergirl Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:12:36pm |
re: #517 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Was she actually sucking on a mint or something? How tacky! Hated the suit, too.
And the standing O’s.
I’d like to see the full chamber do the wave. That would be cool!
The only things she lacked: pom poms.
| 940 |
realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:13:19pm |
re: #934 Syrah
Hi Syrah! Not any more. Michael Steele is the real deal.
I’ve had the pleasure (and I mean that) of exchanging e-mails with him - he’s already got a game plan in place and is working it as we speak!
| 941 |
Afrocity Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:13:22pm |
re: #938 deymond
Republicans tend to be more conservative by nature (congressional spending notwithstanding). Obama had a genuine shot as a Democrat because Democrats don’t mind voting for someone just because they are a novelty. Republicans, on the other hand, are hypersensitive to the idea that a candidate is being foisted upon them simply because the candidate is likeable or electable.
eh, nevermind
| 942 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:13:50pm |
| 943 |
jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:14:46pm |
re: #925 Dark_Falcon
Sorry I’m let coming in. I couldm’t really post here and watch Obama (too tired after a long day). I felt like I needed a bingo card watching Obama and Jindal with their buzzwords.
Good to see you, Dark.
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garden18 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:15:10pm |
“Something has happened to the generic American male accent. Maybe it is urbanization; perhaps it is now an affectation to sound precise and caring with a patina of intellectual authority; perhaps it is the fashion culture of the metrosexual; maybe it is the influence of the gay community in arts and popular culture. Maybe the ubiquitous new intonation comes from the scarcity of salty old jobs in construction, farming, or fishing. But increasingly to meet a young American male about 25 is to hear a particular nasal stress, a much higher tone than one heard 40 years ago, and, to be frank, to listen to a precious voice often nearly indistinguishable from the female. How indeed could one make Westerns these days, when there simply is not anyone left who sounds like John Wayne, Richard Boone, Robert Duvall, or Gary Cooper much less a Struther Martin, Jack Palance, L.Q. Jones, or Ben Johnson? I watched the movie Twelve O’clock High the other day, and Gregory Peck and Dean Jagger sounded liked they were from another planet. I confess over the last year, I have been interviewed a half-dozen times on the phone, and had no idea at first whether a male or female was asking the questions. All this sounds absurd, but I think upon reflection readers my age (55) will attest they have had the same experience. In the old days, I remember only that I first heard a variant of this accent with the old Paul Lynde character actor in one of the Flubber movies; now young men sound closer to his camp than to a Jack Palance or Alan Ladd.”
When I read the above from Victor Davis Hanson, I think of Obama and Jindal, feminine men who have become our leaders.
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deymond Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:15:45pm |
re: #937 jorline
Fair point, although a lot more people watch Leno.
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realwest Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:16:44pm |
re: #927 SFGoth
Well maybe the GOP has some credibility because the deficits they ran up were while fighting two wars (that were both in the heavy conflict stage) and dealing with Katrina and the MSM and the exec’s at FannieMae (who are now retired but on Obama’s board of advisors) and at Merrill Lynch and Citigroup which gave TONS of money to Obama’s campaign but didn’t do anything truly productive and by complying with the CRA, did a lot of destructive work as well.
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Jack Bauer's Evil Brother Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:17:24pm |
Okay, I agree that Jindal’s support of intelligent design/creationism is wrong, but exactly how does it make him unelectable? The last time the Republican party nominated a creationist for President, he carried 49 states.
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Scion9 Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:18:59pm |
re: #938 deymond
I don’t agree at all. Republicans want bucolic and hawkish figures. Democrats want Philosopher Kings, that fit into their system of mythology.
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Salem Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:21:12pm |
re: #268 Dirk Diggler
Alouette,
Yeah. If the Yellowstone Caldera is about to erupt and cover the states west of the Mississippi under five feet of ash, I’d kinda like to know.
Yeah, good luck evacuating North America based on some ominous seismological data. If we even have that kind of warning. Might happen next week, might happen in ten thousand years.
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jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:22:05pm |
re: #945 deymond
Fair point, although a lot more people watch Leno.
lol…point well taken. Maybe the majority of American should watch less of Leno and pay more attention to what the leadership of our country is saying.
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I heart the USA Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:23:47pm |
I didn’t watch Jindal’s speech, so I’ll accept the general concensus that it sucked. But I think it is a mite premature to say that he is unelectable based on one poor speech. To me that implies that the only criteria for electability is to give a good speech. It surely helps (see election results 2008), but in the long run we need substance. Jindal has substance.
If you are one for whom Creationism is a deal breaker, then it wouldnt matter if he spoke like Lincoln at Gettysburg. I’m agnostic but I don’t give a crap about his Creationist beliefs (which surprise me, nonetheless because he is a Catholic, and the pope has been clear about his belief that evolution is not incompatible with faith). IMO, he is too smart to think he could begin to push a Creationist agenda, stealth or otherwise, on a federal level.
We have a long way to go, and I still like Mitt, but I don’t think the door is closed on anyone (except Newt; too much baggage).
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jorline Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:24:19pm |
re: #948 realwest
Uh, not yet I don’t!
I sent you a reply to your reply at 10:45 your time. Let me know if I need to resend it…it’s in my sent box.
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calcajun Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:31:48pm |
Don’t have time to join in here—got things to do with the family. But permit me these observations.
I did not see either speech. Both men are adroit speakers—but BHO is better. Jindal, however, is only in his late 30’s—give him time to mature. Give him also another turn in Baton Rouge—and maybe some time in the Senate— before trotting him out on the national stage. He could achieve both by the time he’s BHO’s present age. The GOP should have learned with Palin—don’t trot out the rising stars before they’re ready for prime time
I appreciate Charles’ criticism of Governor Jindal re his signing into law the Creationist Bill. I do not know enough to comment one way or the other on if the law is either susceptible to the abuse envisioned by Charles or if it would withstand a Constitutional challenge if it were. I do not know enough about how the law was passed and if it was because he’s a true believer or because of political pay back or both. That being said, if there is any taint that will attach to Jindal because of his affiliation with the bill, then he needs time to let the stink wear off, i.e.; he needs time to distance himself from the law he signed into being. He cannot be rushed onto the national stage only to clubbed like a baby fur seal by the media. Speeches like this are good for testing the waters and seasoning the candidate. But by no means is this man ready for the national arena—and I like the guy.
PS-anyone know what name he used when he was sworn in as governor? It could not have been “Bobby”.
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Colonel Panik Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:45:11pm |
re: #914 garden18
When we have an American version of Margaret Thatcher, I’ll vote for her.
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Picayune Tue, Feb 24, 2009 9:45:40pm |
re: #845 Sharmuta
He was slighting the DEM’s spending habits, as I heard it.
He’s my Gov, has done a marvelous job compared to that stinking, corrupt, incompetent rat, Dem Gov Blanco. He really stuck the Dem LA Legislature on their attempted 230 % pay raise, after the weekend polls came out, and his stock went up.
I don’t agree with his education bill, as I have stated. Teach science in science class, religion in church, or religion class, period.
Jindal’s background is a policy wonk from WDC on Medicine, which today is extremely scientific, so I doubt that he is outright anti-science. I have never heard him demean science.
He’s a politician, and he’s voter sensitive, and that’s probably what pushed his position on education.
His education bill received little to no coverage locally, at the time. People here are focused on rebuilding their lives, and everything else, and I doubt that many here were very aware of the Bill, though they should have been.
I further hope he amends his position on his education bill, and changes it, except that part dealing with the junk science of PC GW. Having worked for the former Repub President of the LA Senate, I will email Jindal my opinions and advice on this matter. For decades, I have firmly believed that it is critical to teach students how to think - not what to think, by teaching critical reasoning abilities to achieve a broad mind, not an open mind, driven by emotion.
Some here appear to me to be stretching to bash the man, in a partisan manner.
For me, I only hope he continues to improve LA, for now. If he’s a light weight on the Presidential scene, time will revel it, and those concerned about his fortunes in that regard will be relived.
You would have to understand the political failures of LA politics for the past 40 years (think IL/Chicago), to comprehend why he is perceived to be doing a good job as Gov, to date. Should he hit a home run administering LA, then that should merit his presidential potential, more than his position on some scientific arguments/religious right agendas.
Yet, I agree that Repubs need now to consider Charles’ advice on party positions on Social Conservatism, and find ways to court the Christian Right, without selling out, nor adopting extreme positions regarding Religion/State. Time will tell, on Jindal.
Meanwhile, I am more focused on PresO and the Dem Congress, and the damage and the dangers that they are creating for this Nation.
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Ben F Tue, Feb 24, 2009 10:07:20pm |
Jindal’s speech was all about tax cuts and government is the enemy except when it showers cash on reconstructing New Orleans. These were the themes that brought the Republicans to a humongous defeat in the 2008 election. Jindal is totally out of touch with voters, and by choosing him as a spokesperson the GOP is signaling that it has learned nothing.
Incidentally, Steele is far more telegenic than Jindal, but he is cut from the same unreconstructed anti-government cloth. His argument that government spending can create work but it cannot create jobs is an embarrassment. Even if one were to grant him the distinction between work and jobs, work creates jobs because workers can buy things that people with jobs will make, transport, and sell. He’s an ideologue who thinks that the electorate is made up of idiots.
And I absolutely agree with Charles about Jindal’s reference to volcano monitoring. Volcano monitoring is geoscience. Geoscience is based on principles that are in direct conflict with young Earth creationism. Coincidence? I think not.
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Wendya Tue, Feb 24, 2009 10:58:12pm |
re: #494 Dirk Diggler
I’m a fiscal hawk, but I’d gladly spend hundreds of millions on supervolcano and near earth object monitoring. It only takes one cataclysmic eruption or collision to extinguish humanity.
What’s the upside of knowing humanity will be extinguished if Yellowstone blows? I mean… it’s not exactly as if we can freaking do something about it.
I do not believe this, or most of the other PORK belonged in the stimulus bill. It should have been addressed in the regular budget and I wouldn’t be surprised to see another 150 million thrown at it so we can employ twice as many government workers and know .00003 of a second faster when the big one is going to hit. Seriously… it’s not like we’ve got people stationed at the top of Mount St Helens with dousing rods trying to make a guess. I want to know the cost/benefit ratio to replacing perfectly adequate equipment with brand new stuff. How much faster will we know and how many lives will it save? That’s called responsible spending.
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theheat Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:52:32pm |
re: #751 pink freud
To be fair, the man was accepted at both Yale and Harvard and graduated Oxford as a Rhodes scholar.
And Ivy league Obama is our POTUS. Let’s not forget that charming sophisticate, Bill Ayers. They’re all educated men.
Book smarts don’t mean much if they aren’t be useful, or applied. To sound or behave stupidly, despite a formal education, is even worse. I firmly believe the folksyspeak is nothing but pandering. Jindal may be an educated idiot, but he’s still an idiot.
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bunz351 Thu, Feb 26, 2009 4:02:57am |
Of course he lacks polish; he’s only 37 years old! That pretty much defines him as a rising star in the GOP and a part of that rising process undoubtedly will include coaching on speech presentation.
Unfortunately, speech presentation is the only real skill our current President possesses.
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