1 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:15:21pm

And how is everyone this fine Monday afternoon?

2 Shinyhead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:16:19pm

Doing good, watching some of the twitter stuff.
Amazing how much info is flying around. The MSM seems to be having a hard time dealing with it.

3 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:16:37pm

re: #1 Wendya

And how is everyone this fine Monday afternoon?

Since Saturday its been one progressive kick in the butt.

4 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:17:37pm

It's Monday evening where I am,

And Monday night in Iran.

May God be with them....

5 Shinyhead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:18:42pm

Lots of call for a nationwide general strike Tuesday.
Could be interesting in an scary sort of way.

6 anchors_aweigh  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:19:44pm
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. - JFK

Wonder what BHO will say tomorrow?

7 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:19:58pm

re: #5 Shinyhead

Lots of call for a nationwide general strike Tuesday.
Could be interesting in an scary sort of way.

Here? Oh boy a day off.

8 Sambo  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:20:39pm

re: #6 anchors_aweigh

"The recession I inherited ..." is a pretty safe bet.

9 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:20:58pm

re: #6 anchors_aweigh

Wonder what BHO will say tomorrow?

He'll be wearing a sweater and telling us to turn the air conditioners off?

10 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:21:18pm

re: #6 anchors_aweigh

Wonder what BHO will say tomorrow?

"Present"

Seriously, Brink from Anchorman yelling "I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT!" has more to add to the conversation than Barry.

11 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:21:29pm

Actually Tuesday early AM in Iran....

12 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:22:09pm

re: #8 Sambo

"The recession I inherited ..." is a pretty safe bet.

Pointing at an effigy of Bush, yelling "HE DID IT!" over and over?

13 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:22:37pm

If I were the Mullahs I'd coordinate something big with that nut case over in N Korea.

14 looking closely  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:23:25pm

re: #8 Sambo

"The recession I inherited ..." is a pretty safe bet.

The expiration date on "Blame Bush" is coming, if it hasn't come already.

15 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:23:38pm

re: #13 Nevergiveup

If I were the Mullahs I'd coordinate something big with that nut case over in N Korea.

A famine?

16 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:23:48pm

re: #1 Wendya

And how is everyone this fine Monday afternoon?

Keeping my fingers off my keyboard, generally.

17 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:24:06pm

re: #14 looking closely

The expiration date on "Blame Bush" is coming, if it hasn't come already.

Went out the door Jan 20th

18 sadhu  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:24:22pm

hot summer ahead

19 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:24:29pm

re: #16 Dianna

Keeping my fingers off my keyboard, generally.

These last two threads have turned into a real mood-brightener for me.

20 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:25:28pm

re: #15 ryannon

A famine?

Nah that they can handle all on their own

21 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:25:54pm

Is this the special double top secret thread where we all talk about turning Iran into a sheet of glass?

22 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:26:28pm

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

23 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:26:32pm

Ban Hammer impact previous thread

24 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:26:39pm

re: #21 Pianobuff

Is this the special double top secret thread where we all talk about turning Iran into a sheet of glass?

Nope. You're fully out in public here. Nothing sekrit going on.

25 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:27:18pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

Space Idiot.

26 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:27:36pm

re: #21 Pianobuff

Is this the special double top secret thread where we all talk about turning Iran into a sheet of glass?

No, but I have a feeling that kind of talk would result in the stick, whether the thread is public or private.

27 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:21pm

re: #19 OldLineTexan

These last two threads have turned into a real mood-brightener for me.

Maybe I should go back and read them. Work is dead again and it drives me insane. I am too much of an andrenalyn junkie to think this "break" is ok.

28 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:26pm

re: #24 Charles

Nope. You're fully out in public here. Nothing sekrit going on.

Someone tell American Sabra!

29 KenJen  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:38pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ban Hammer impact previous thread

I figured out what A.W. stands for.. ..Ass Wipe.

30 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:39pm

The Caine Mutiny is on TCM

31 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:46pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

It's his evil twin posting again.

32 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:50pm

re: #14 looking closely

The expiration date on "Blame Bush" is coming, if it hasn't come already.

It was irradiated and vacuum sealed, good until Nov. 2012.

33 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:28:51pm

re: #24 Charles

Nope. You're fully out in public here. Nothing sekrit going on.

HAND CHECK!

///

34 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:05pm

re: #13 Nevergiveup

If I were the Mullahs I'd coordinate something big with that nut case over in N Korea.

A singing, dancing, Broadway spectacular?

35 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:12pm

re: #28 Dianna

Someone tell American Sabra!

I have the distinct notion that it would not help.

36 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:16pm

re: #29 KenJen

I figured out what A.W. stands for.. ..Ass Wipe.

remind me never to drink the root beer again...

37 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:17pm

re: #30 Nevergiveup

The Caine Mutiny is on TCM

Have you seen my strawberries?

38 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:23pm

re: #26 doppelganglander

No, but I have a feeling that kind of talk would result in the stick, whether the thread is public or private.

Doesn't matter. Now our own special snowflake will be so horrified she'll have to go hyperventilate, then come and tell us what superficial brutes we are!

39 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:33pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

(The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

Wow. That's a shocker.

/

40 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:29:46pm

I recently made iGoogle my home page, and one of the gadgets I added was the Winston Churchill quote generator. I'm not sure all these quotes are authentic, but I really like the one that's up right now:

It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
41 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:00pm

re: #29 KenJen

I figured out what A.W. standsSTOOD for.. ..Ass Wipe.

42 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:08pm

re: #29 KenJen

I figured out what A.W. stands for.. ..Ass Wipe.

It's pronounced "oz-WEE-pay; it's Norwegian"

/

43 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:16pm

re: #34 Occasional Reader

A singing, dancing, Broadway spectacular?

Ever see those little NKs goose steeping in their capital?

44 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:41pm

re: #38 Dianna

Doesn't matter. Now our own special snowflake will be so horrified she'll have to go hyperventilate, then come and tell us what superficial brutes we are!

That's OK, I was equated to a Holocaust denier a few threads back.

45 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:46pm

re: #26 doppelganglander

No, but I have a feeling that kind of talk would result in the stick, whether the thread is public or private.

One would expect so. Where do people come up with this stuff, anyway? I know of no regions so nether....

46 horse  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:53pm

Business is sooo slow. What in the world is government going to do when we don't have any income for them to tax? Hide your assets...

47 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:54pm

re: #42 OldLineTexan

It's pronounced "oz-WEE-pay; it's Norwegian"

/

Forgot the double umlaut

48 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:30:56pm

Since everybody loves speeches (via HuffPo)....
Sen. John McCain on Iran

49 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:31:33pm

re: #38 Dianna

Doesn't matter. Now our own special snowflake will be so horrified she'll have to go hyperventilate, then come and tell us what superficial brutes we are!

I'm not sure who you're referring to, and I know you're too much of a lady to gossip. I suppose the individual will make herself clearly known at some point. Or, you know, you could just tell me. ;)

50 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:31:38pm

re: #46 horse

Business is sooo slow. What in the world is government going to do when we don't have any income for them to tax? Hide your assets...

Isn't that what Burka's are for?

51 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:31:43pm

re: #34 Occasional Reader

A singing, dancing, Broadway spectacular?

"Hey Spanky, what can we do to help the Iranians?"
"I know, Alfalfa - let's put on a show!"

/

52 Sambo  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:31:48pm

re: #40 doppelganglander

I like it. I also like: "The world isn't interested in the storms you encountered, but whether or not you brought in the ship."

53 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:32:09pm

re: #14 looking closely

Hey LC, Can you help me out? I don't have my old stat book here in the office. On a one way anova when the F is less than the Fcrit that means there is no sig diff between groups, right? Dang every five years or so I need to do an anova and I always get confused whether its smaller or larger and friggin excel help on this function sucks.Thanks.

54 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:32:21pm

re: #6 anchors_aweigh

Wonder what BHO will say tomorrow?

ask not what you can do for your country, send money

55 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:33:11pm

What is Capt. Queeg's rank?

56 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:33:13pm

re: #46 horse

Business is sooo slow. What in the world is government going to do when we don't have any income for them to tax? Hide your assets...

It is just like starting over again. I am slowly going batshit crazy. Maybe I should be happy and take a ride on the wagon instead of worrying about pulling it. It is time for me to be unproductive for a spell.

57 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:33:36pm

re: #53 turn

my head just exploded

58 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:33:47pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

What is Capt. Queeg's rank?

Yummmmm - strawberries.

59 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:34:05pm

re: #46 horse

Business is sooo slow. What in the world is government going to do when we don't have any income for them to tax? Hide your assets...

What assets? Our income is down by half this year. The only good news is that our kid might qualify for more financial next year than she would have otherwise.

60 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:34:10pm

re: #21 Pianobuff

Is this the special double top secret thread where we all talk about turning Iran into a sheet of glass?

dont break the code.
the code is all
we are the code

61 horse  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:34:15pm

re: #50 Nevergiveup

Isn't that what Burka's are for?

Hmmm, maybe a burka for the house and car so they can't estimate your real income or raise your property taxes.

62 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:34:49pm

re: #40 doppelganglander

To which Sean Connery springs to mind.

"Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

63 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:35:00pm

re: #43 Nevergiveup

Ever see those little NKs goose steeping in their capital?

Quick! Someone call noted director Roger De Bris! This'll be a smash!

64 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:35:30pm

Any LGF historians know the down-ding record for a single post?

I'm seeing a -41 go by and now I'm wondering what's the lowest of the lowest?

65 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:35:51pm

re: #46 horse

Business is sooo slow. What in the world is government going to do when we don't have any income for them to tax? Hide your assets...

They're going to be unhappy when they get my tax return next year.

66 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:01pm

re: #49 doppelganglander

I'm not sure who you're referring to, and I know you're too much of a lady to gossip. I suppose the individual will make herself clearly known at some point. Or, you know, you could just tell me. ;)

I am not the snowflake. I am a superficial brute force of nature

67 KenJen  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:04pm

re: #6 anchors_aweigh

Wonder what BHO will say tomorrow?

I'll bet you a hundred dollars one word he will say is-uh.

68 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:14pm

re: #21 Pianobuff

Is this the special double top secret thread where we all talk about turning Iran into a sheet of glass?

Good gravy I shouldn't have engaged on the last thread. I'm actually lecturing someone who insists that most of us here at LGF historically advocated nuking Iran and who refuses to cite examples where this occurred and wasn't shot down by the Lizards and Stinky.

Then I'm naive enough to think they will understand the moral principle behind "give me liberty or give me death."

69 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:40pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

I've made it over -50 myself. I think the record is over 200.

70 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:53pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

What is Capt. Queeg's rank?

Navy or Marines? /

71 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:36:56pm

re: #67 KenJen

I'll bet you a hundred dollars one word he will say is-uh.

I've got a hundred on Ummmm.

72 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:13pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

I've been past that mark myself.

73 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:17pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

dont know the record by they've got a ways to go before catching annefrance

74 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:18pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

To which Sean Connery springs to mind.

"Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

That's awesome. What film is that quote from?

75 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:19pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

I've made it over -50 myself. I think the record is over 200.

Annefrance-- minus 400 something.

76 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:33pm

re: #41 Creeping Eruption

Oh, did that A.W. dude get banned? I checked the bottom 10 list this morning and couldn't believe the guy was dissing on Charles for not posting about the situation in Iran when that has been his focus. Oh and Charles, congrats on that WashPo mention. LGF is the place to get up to date information on just about anything in the news.

77 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:36pm

re: #1 Wendya

And how is everyone this fine Monday afternoon?

Bored. I'm considering stopping by Lafayette Park after work to see if the protesters are still there.

78 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:38pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

Any LGF historians know the down-ding record for a single post?

I'm seeing a -41 go by and now I'm wondering what's the lowest of the lowest?

I can't remember the total but it was so large there wasn't enough room on my pop up window to list all the names.

79 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:45pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

That's awesome. What film is that quote from?

The Rock

80 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:46pm
81 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:37:50pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

Any LGF historians know the down-ding record for a single post?

I'm seeing a -41 go by and now I'm wondering what's the lowest of the lowest?


I remember one in the 200s It got to be quite the contest after a while. I always enjoy a good wade through the top and bottom ten to start my day.

82 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:16pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

That's awesome. What film is that quote from?

The Rock? maybe

83 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:20pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

I've made it over -50 myself. I think the record is over 200.

Well, a single +1 won't do much, but I updinged ya anyway.

84 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:31pm

Residents of Polish town try to save 'Hitler's tree'

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

A tree grows in Brooklyn?

85 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:37pm

re: #68 DaddyG

Good gravy I shouldn't have engaged on the last thread. I'm actually lecturing someone who insists that most of us here at LGF historically advocated nuking Iran and who refuses to cite examples where this occurred and wasn't shot down by the Lizards and Stinky.

Then I'm naive enough to think they will understand the moral principle behind "give me liberty or give me death."

Well, to be fair, Charles deleted a lot of those. There used to be a poster 'bigel' back in the day.........

waaay back.

86 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:39pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

That's awesome. What film is that quote from?

The Rock. Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, Ed Harris.

87 horse  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:42pm

re: #56 Truck Monkey

It is just like starting over again. I am slowly going batshit crazy. Maybe I should be happy and take a ride on the wagon instead of worrying about pulling it. It is time for me to be unproductive for a spell.

Grab some of those Obama bucks. My brother just bought a repo condo from HUD at 50% the prior sell price and got $22k in government incentives! His payments will be crazy low.

88 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:38:48pm

re: #66 Eowyn2

I am not the snowflake. I am a superficial brute force of nature

Superficial Brute Honco!

89 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:39:06pm

re: #57 wahabicorridor

my head just exploded

Statistics was like the worst grade I got in college, don't blame ya.

90 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:39:35pm

re: #70 DaddyG

Navy or Marines? /

Well he is Capt of a one of those thingys that float on water?

91 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:39:46pm

re: #82 Eowyn2

The Rock? maybe

(language warning)

92 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:39:53pm

re: #90 Nevergiveup

Well he is Capt of a one of those thingys that float on water?

Ducks?

93 KenJen  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:39:58pm

re: #71 Truck Monkey

I've got a hundred on Ummmm.

$20 he gets buzzed by a fly.

94 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:40:07pm

re: #87 horse

Grab some of those Obama bucks. My brother just bought a repo condo from HUD at 50% the prior sell price and got $22k in government incentives! His payments will be crazy low.

That's outstanding. It's a great time to be a homebuyer, especially a first time one.

95 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:40:18pm
96 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:40:29pm

re: #44 OldLineTexan

That's OK, I was equated to a Holocaust denier a few threads back.

My favorite troll moment was the time someone claimed I was an Obama supporter (which is moronic in it's conception) because my nick has the word "change" in it... ArchangelMichael

Where do these people come from? Is there a moron factory somewhere just churning out more units every day?

97 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:40:43pm

re: #67 KenJen

I'll bet you a hundred dollars one word he will say is-uh.

ha, I'll put the over-under on 10.

98 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:40:55pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ducks?

Well that's Duwks

99 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:41:30pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

re: #72 Creeping Eruption

re: #73 Eowyn2

re: #75 Sharmuta

re: #78 Wendya

re: #81
DaddyG

Thanks for the info!

100 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:41:39pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

you are not a very nice person.

come one, come all to the great annual 'spacejesus kicks paleo/neo-con ass fiesta'

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:41:51pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

That's awesome. What film is that quote from?

Ain't that from "The Untouchables"?

102 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:00pm

re: #85 wahabicorridor

Well, to be fair, Charles deleted a lot of those. There used to be a poster 'bigel' back in the day.........

waaay back.

We were clear about that. Not that it didn't happen but said poster Spayshul Snowflake was using that as a straw man to portray all Lizards as nuke happy brutes.

I asked for a single citation that stood un-deleted or supported by the Lizards and none was forthcoming.

103 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:11pm

re: #99 Pianobuff

re: #72 Creeping Eruption

re: #73 Eowyn2

re: #75 Sharmuta

re: #78 Wendya

re: #81
DaddyG

Thanks for the info!

obviously we all watch too many movies.

104 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:25pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

you are not a very nice person.

come one, come all to the great annual 'spacejesus kicks paleo/neo-con ass fiesta'

"How to win friends and influence people"?

105 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:36pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

you are not a very nice person.

come one, come all to the great annual 'spacejesus kicks paleo/neo-con ass fiesta'

You have a very active fantasy life, don't you?

106 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:47pm

re: #49 doppelganglander

I'm not sure who you're referring to, and I know you're too much of a lady to gossip. I suppose the individual will make herself clearly known at some point. Or, you know, you could just tell me. ;)

American Sabra.

I am annoyed. It's probably got as much to do with a spread-sheet problem as her attitude. Still, I'm in a mood.

107 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:50pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

you are not a very nice person.

come one, come all to the great annual 'spacejesus kicks paleo/neo-con ass fiesta'

Actually, I'm a very nice person. Ask anyone. But you downright ENJOY being the house troll here, so what the fuck are you complaining about?

108 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:42:55pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

AnneFrance -482

Wow. Just...wow.

109 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:43:34pm

5.4 in Alaska.

110 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:43:37pm

re: #96 ArchangelMichael

Is there a moron factory somewhere just churning out more units every day?

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc.

You get the idea.

111 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:43:48pm

re: #77 Mad Al-Jaffee

Bored. I'm considering stopping by Lafayette Park after work to see if the protesters are still there.

At lunchtime, only the weird pro-Tamil Tiger ones were there.

112 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:43:53pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

AnneFrance -482


Ah yes Palin bashing at its finest. If only we could have seconds.

113 Eowyn2  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:43:57pm

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ain't that from "The Untouchables"?

No that is
they put one of yours in the hospital
you kill one of theirs
they kill one of yours,
you kill two of theirs

114 Kenneth  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:44:14pm

re: #80 Bobblehead

Sarkozy says burqas "not welcome" in France

The irony is, Islamist thugs are welcome in France.

115 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:44:51pm

re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Rock. Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, Ed Harris.

That was a suprisingly good movie.

116 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:45:03pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

AnneFrance -482

Other trolls may aspire to such a lofty number.

117 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:45:12pm

re: #113 Eowyn2

I really can't watch any Sean Connery movies without thinking about those SNL Celebrity Jepoardy sketches.

"I'll take Famous Titties for a thousand."

118 NelsFree  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:45:29pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ban Hammer Hamster impact previous thread


/furry craters everywhere! Video at 11.

119 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:45:47pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

Great work Sharmuta! I missed that one.

If it really is Fwench, it 'splains a lot about the EUnichs.

120 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:45:49pm

re: #115 Occasional Reader

That was a suprisingly good movie.

I'd say surprisingly entertaining. "Good" might be pushing it.

121 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:46:09pm

re: #106 Dianna

American Sabra.

I am annoyed. It's probably got as much to do with a spread-sheet problem as her attitude. Still, I'm in a mood.

Thanks. I'll do my best not to make it any worse. I was in a mood for the last two weeks and the only reason I'm still married is that Mr. Doppel was out of town for part of it.

122 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:46:11pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

My question for people who say this is, if we armed Saddam, why was:

The Iraqi Air Force made up entirely of Soviet and French aircraft
The Iraqi army used all Soviet tanks and Soviet AK-47s.
All Iraqi ballistic and cruise missiles were Soviet, Chinese, or French.

Where are these "American weapons"?

123 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:46:46pm

re: #115 Occasional Reader

That was a suprisingly good movie.

And the prom queen had a nice body also? just saying

124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:46:49pm

re: #108 Pianobuff

Wow. Just...wow.

I keep thinking CJ should open back up the thread and give some newbies a chance to punch AF in the head too. He's just not that into AnneFrance, I guess.

125 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:46:56pm

re: #100 SpaceJesus

Oh, quit whining. You create your own trouble, like everyone else.

126 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:07pm

re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee

I really can't watch any Sean Connery movies without thinking about those SNL Celebrity Jepoardy sketches.

"I'll take Famous Titties for a thousand."

"I'll take Jap Anus Relations for 600."

127 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:32pm
128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:48pm

BTW, as the father of a prom queen; SHUT YER PIE HOLES!

(*just occurred to me*)

129 legalpad  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:51pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

Whoa! Nobody liked that one!

130 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:57pm

re: #122 ArchangelMichael

My question for people who say this is, if we armed Saddam, why was:

The Iraqi Air Force made up entirely of Soviet and French aircraft
The Iraqi army used all Soviet tanks and Soviet AK-47s.
All Iraqi ballistic and cruise missiles were Soviet, Chinese, or French.

Where are these "American weapons"?

Sekrit MiG faktaries in Missouri!

131 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:58pm

re: #122 ArchangelMichael

My question for people who say this is, if we armed Saddam, why was:

The Iraqi Air Force made up entirely of Soviet and French aircraft
The Iraqi army used all Soviet tanks and Soviet AK-47s.
All Iraqi ballistic and cruise missiles were Soviet, Chinese, or French.

Where are these "American weapons"?

Spitballs.

132 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:48:14pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

What is Capt. Queeg's rank?

LCDR, Lieutenant Commander.

133 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:48:30pm

re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee

I really can't watch any Sean Connery movies without thinking about those SNL Celebrity Jepoardy sketches.

"I'll take Famous Titties for a thousand."

Those were hilarious, weren't they?

134 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:48:45pm

re: #132 jcm

LCDR, Lieutenant Commander.

It took long enough!

135 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:17pm

re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee

I really can't watch any Sean Connery movies without thinking about those SNL Celebrity Jepoardy sketches.

"I'll take Famous Titties for a thousand."

"Anal Bum Cover for $500 please Alex"

136 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:35pm

re: #125 Dianna

Oh, quit whining. You create your own trouble, like everyone else.

I gave birth to mine.

*grin*

137 Lincolntf  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:36pm

So, I went to see The Hangover this afternoon. Only a couple laugh out loud moments, but funny enough that it was well worth sitting through. Only an hour and a half (perfect for a comedy) and consistent throughout. Couple real funny lines.

138 NelsFree  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:38pm

re: #109 debutaunt

5.4 in Alaska.

Well, it CAN get really cold there!
/Oh, you mean...

139 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:50pm

Logging on from the Apple Store in South Jersey on the new MacBook Pro. Luv it!

140 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:49:59pm

re: #126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"I'll take Jap Anus Relations for 600."

Catch The Semen for 200, Alex....

141 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:50:24pm

re: #107 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'm a very nice person. Ask anyone. But you downright ENJOY being the house troll here, so what the fuck are you complaining about?

Don't listen to OR, jeebus. He pulls the wings off flies. He volunteers at homeless shelters and short-sheets the beds. He goes to the orphanage and holds toys and lollypops just outside the fence. He waters his yard on alternate days instead of every other day. Seven out of ten dentists agree that he cause cavities. And he doesn't believe in jeebus!

/

142 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:50:30pm

re: #139 DistantThunder

Logging on from the Apple Store in South Jersey on the new MacBook Pro. Luv it!

Are you homeless?

143 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:50:56pm
144 NelsFree  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:50:58pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW, as the father of a prom queen; SHUT YER PIE HOLES!

(*just occurred to me*)

PICTURES!

145 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:12pm

re: #135 eschew_obfuscation

"Anal Bum Cover for $500 please Alex"

I'll play your game you rogue. I'll take 'the rapists' for 800.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:17pm
147 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:20pm

re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee

I really can't watch any Sean Connery movies without thinking about those SNL Celebrity Jepoardy sketches.

"I'll take Famous Titties for a thousand."

"I'll take The Rapists for $200, Alex."

148 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:26pm

re: #139 DistantThunder

Logging on from the Apple Store in South Jersey on the new MacBook Pro. Luv it!

Your next purchase?

149 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:35pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's pie?

150 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:51:54pm

re: #147 doppelganglander

"I'll take The Rapists for $200, Alex."

Bill Clinton?

151 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:07pm

re: #147 doppelganglander

Alex Trebek: Mr. Reynolds has apparently changed his name to Turd Ferguson.

Burt Reynolds: Yeah, that's right. Turd Ferguson. It's a funny name.

152 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:09pm

re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I keep thinking CJ should open back up the thread and give some newbies a chance to punch AF in the head too. He's just not that into AnneFrance, I guess.

She sounds like an ...umm... acquired taste?

153 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:17pm

re: #141 OldLineTexan

He pulls the wings off flies.

Hey, it's my patriotic duty! They dared to bother The One. So they get the full "Joe the Plumber" treatment.

154 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:19pm

re: #145 ArchangelMichael

I'll play your game you rogue. I'll take 'the rapists' for 800.

"Thats a lovely suit Alex. Very nice. Tell me, do they make them for men? BWHAHAHA!"

155 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:22pm

re: #137 Lincolntf

So, I went to see The Hangover this afternoon. Only a couple laugh out loud moments, but funny enough that it was well worth sitting through. Only an hour and a half (perfect for a comedy) and consistent throughout. Couple real funny lines.

turnspawn2 saw that movie and said it was the funniest movie he's ever seen. I'll have to see it. btw, he likes office too.

156 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:22pm

re: #149 OldLineTexan

There's pie?

GIVE ME YOUR PIE!

157 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:23pm

re: #43 Nevergiveup

Ever see those little NKs goose steeping in their capital?

And I figure that keeping in step is a prerequisite for staying alive to participate in the next parade.

158 NelsFree  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:24pm

re: #132 jcm

LCDR, Lieutenant Commander.

An O-4 C.O. would have a flat truck on his Gig's flagstaff.
/Naval trivia

159 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:52:52pm

re: #64 Pianobuff

Any LGF historians know the down-ding record for a single post?

I'm seeing a -41 go by and now I'm wondering what's the lowest of the lowest?

Annefrance for something like -600

160 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:53:03pm

re: #156 eschew_obfuscation

We were to understand there would be punch and pie.

161 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:53:05pm

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mark Sanford (Gov. SC) is writing his "Manifesto"

I think.

How very odd, especially the fact that he wasn't with his children on Father's Day. I hope he's okay.

162 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:53:23pm

Did the print just get bigger for everyone else - or did I just hit something?

I'm in decision mode, but Mr. DT's hard drive crashed last week, so he's moved ahead of me in the queue.

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:53:56pm

re: #161 doppelganglander

Read it. Wife is unconcerned. Said he's "writing something".

Think something big's coming.

164 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:06pm

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

At least when Obama went for ice cream he came back.

165 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:10pm

re: #130 Occasional Reader

Sekrit MiG faktaries in Missouri!

TROOF!

166 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:17pm

re: #162 DistantThunder

Did the print just get bigger for everyone else - or did I just hit something?

I'm in decision mode, but Mr. DT's hard drive crashed last week, so he's moved ahead of me in the queue.

CTRL-scroll wheel?

167 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:26pm

re: #134 Nevergiveup

It took long enough!

Was back a thread.....

168 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:45pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

At least when Obama went for ice cream he came back.

I wonder if one of these days he'll go out for cigarettes...

169 Kenneth  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:54:58pm

Iraqi Scientist Reports on German, Other Help for Iraq Chemical Weapons Program

The scandal that enabled the ousted dictatorship Saddam Husayn to procure means to produce chemical weapons is in fact a scandal that affects Germany first and foremost. As for the other countries -- such as the Italians, the Swedes, the French, the Dutch, the Americans, and others -- they can claim that they were duped by the defunct regime. However, until the whole truth comes out in the future, everyone should shoulder the responsibility and blame for the death of 5,000 victims in Halabjah, the thousands of victims of the Iranian army, and the thousands of victims in the steadfast Al-Ahwar region. All these were the victims of the arsenal of death that was built with German brains and Iraqi money. The Iraqi people have every right to prepare an indictment sheet against the German government and its companies for directly assisting the defunct dictatorial regime in mercilessly killing and annihilating Iraqis. And this government should compensate the victims of the German chemical weapons in Iraq.

170 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:55:37pm

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Read it. Wife is unconcerned. Said he's "writing something".

Think something big's coming.

Well, either that or she's unconcerned because she had him murdered.

/It's a joke! I watch too many crime shows.

Seriously, he's probably going to run for president in 2012.

171 KenJen  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:55:53pm

re: #161 doppelganglander

How very odd, especially the fact that he wasn't with his children on Father's Day. I hope he's okay.

Very odd. A very good friend of mine is closley related to the governor. I pray he is okay. Will call her now. Later guys.

172 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:55:53pm

re: #161 doppelganglander

How very odd, especially the fact that he wasn't with his children on Father's Day. I hope he's okay.

My son lives in Columbia, SC. He's not on line right now. Darn. I'll try later

173 turn  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:25pm

re: #162 DistantThunder

Did the print just get bigger for everyone else - or did I just hit something?

I'm in decision mode, but Mr. DT's hard drive crashed last week, so he's moved ahead of me in the queue.

Must be on your end, I learned that scrolling with the cntrl key held down changes font size by accident.

174 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:27pm

re: #166 eschew_obfuscation

CTRL-scroll wheel?

ctrl + (bigger)
ctrl - (smaller)

175 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:38pm

re: #158 NelsFree

An O-4 C.O. would have a flat truck on his Gig's flagstaff.
/Naval trivia

Explain that one?

176 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:44pm

re: #168 Mad Al-Jaffee

I wonder if one of these days he'll go out for cigarettes...

My thought exactly!

177 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:59pm

re: #168 Mad Al-Jaffee

I wonder if one of these days he'll go out for cigarettes...

Something's telling me that you'll soon be walking out the door;
You'll probably say something stupid, like, "I gotta go down to the store
"And buy myself some cigarettes, and do you want a pack?"
And I won't see you anymore,
And that, my friend, is that....

The BoDeans.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:58:00pm

re: #170 doppelganglander

I'm thinkin' you're correct.

I'd like to vote on the Romney/Bolton ticket.

179 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:58:09pm

re: #169 Kenneth

Iraqi Scientist Reports on German, Other Help for Iraq Chemical Weapons Program

But, but Space Jesus said IT WAS THE AMERICAN'S FAULT!

180 horse  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:58:26pm

re: #94 doppelganglander

That's outstanding. It's a great time to be a homebuyer, especially a first time one.

Indeed, I told him he's buying the drinks for the next year. That's what lucky brothers are for :)

181 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:58:43pm

re: #177 Dianna

Something's telling me that you'll soon be walking out the door;
You'll probably say something stupid, like, "I gotta go down to the store
"And buy myself some cigarettes, and do you want a pack?"
And I won't see you anymore,
And that, my friend, is that....

The BoDeans.

Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack
I went out for a ride and I never went back
Like a river that don't know where it's flowing
I took a wrong turn and I just kept going

Bruce Springsteen, Hungry Heart

182 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:59:09pm
183 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:59:25pm

re: #179 MacDuff

But, but Space Jesus said IT WAS THE AMERICAN'S FAULT!

You can't believe just any watery tart flinging enchanted cutlery out of a puddle!

/or something like that

184 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:59:53pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Thats a lovely suit Alex. Very nice. Tell me, do they make them for men? BWHAHAHA!"



Sean Connery: I believe you'd find that in the "R" section.
Alex Trebek: No, not in the "R's".
Sean Connery: Not in the "R's"? That's not what your mother said last night.

185 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:00:09pm

re: #177 Dianna

Something's telling me that you'll soon be walking out the door;
You'll probably say something stupid, like, "I gotta go down to the store
"And buy myself some cigarettes, and do you want a pack?"
And I won't see you anymore,
And that, my friend, is that....

The BoDeans.

re: #181 OldLineTexan

Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack
I went out for a ride and I never went back
Like a river that don't know where it's flowing
I took a wrong turn and I just kept going

Bruce Springsteen, Hungry Heart

Get the fuck outta here you stinking drunk!

-Next door neighbor to husband.

186 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:00:31pm

re: #179 MacDuff

But, but Space Jesus said IT WAS THE AMERICAN'S FAULT!

Moonbat Jeebus.

Hello Lizards.

187 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:01:09pm

re: #185 Creeping Eruption

Sometimes you gotta use tough love, and sometimes you need a baseball bat.

188 Kenneth  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #179 MacDuff

The problem is several US companies did sell chemicals or chemical manufacturing equipment to Saddam some of which were used to make chemical weapons. But the US was a minority supplier. Germany, along with several European subsidiaries supplied much of it. The Russians & east Germans provided the military training.

189 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:01:54pm

Transformers: Unsolved Mysteries - The Saint Helens Saucer

190 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:01:56pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

At least when Obama went for ice cream he came back.

Yes, lucky us.

191 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:02:37pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan

You can't believe just any watery tart flinging enchanted cutlery out of a puddle!

/or something like that

Shoulda put a sarc tag on that one.....:)

192 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:03:06pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan

I just got here. Is that the first Monty Python reference? No thread is complete without one.

193 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:03:43pm

re: #187 OldLineTexan

Sometimes you gotta use tough love, and sometimes you need a baseball bat.

Actually, some of my neighbors told me after I bought my house that the previous owners had a little rocky patch in their marriage and one day the husband came home to find all of his stuff strewn across the front lawn. Apparently he had been screwing the secretary or something. Long memories in my neighborhood.

194 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:03:52pm

re: #192 BatGuano

I just got here. Is that the first Monty Python reference? No thread is complete without one.

Even a mangled monstrosity?

195 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:05pm

Hitch has a piece in Slate..... Persian Paranoia - Iranian leaders will always believe Anglo-Saxons are plotting against them.

Among other things, he discusses why England has gotten the worst of the worst criticism from Khameini.

He also offers these three observations:

1. There is nothing at all that any Western country can do to avoid the charge of intervening in Iran's foreign affairs. The deep belief that everything—especially anything in English—is already and by definition an intervention is part of the very identity and ideology of the theocracy.
2. It is a mistake to assume that the ayatollahs, cynical and corrupt as they may be, are acting rationally. They are frequently in the grip of archaic beliefs and fears that would make a stupefied medieval European peasant seem mentally sturdy and resourceful by comparison.
3. The tendency of outside media to check the temperature of the clerics, rather than consult the writers and poets of the country, shows our own cultural backwardness in regrettably sharp relief. Anyone who had been reading Pezeshkzad and Nafisi, or talking to their students and readers in Tabriz and Esfahan and Mashad, would have been able to avoid the awful embarrassment by which everything that has occurred on the streets of Iran during recent days has come as one surprise after another to most of our uncultured "experts."


He also offers some advice for POTUS:

That last observation also applies to the Obama administration. Want to take a noninterventionist position? All right, then, take a noninterventionist position. This would mean not referring to Khamenei in fawning tones as the supreme leader and not calling Iran itself by the tyrannical title of "the Islamic republic." But be aware that nothing will stop the theocrats from slandering you for interfering anyway. Also try to bear in mind that one day you will have to face the young Iranian democrats who risked their all in the battle and explain to them just what you were doing when they were being beaten and gassed. (Hint: Don't make your sole reference to Iranian dictatorship an allusion to a British-organized coup in 1953; the mullahs think that it proves their main point, and this generation has more immediate enemies to confront.)

196 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:10pm

re: #2 Shinyhead

Doing good, watching some of the twitter stuff.
Amazing how much info is flying around. The MSM seems to be having a hard time dealing with it.

I would actually like to give some props to the MSM, oddly enough. They started slow, and most of them are torn between covering for the President they elected and the honest coverage of facts on the ground, BUT. The resources and frankly speaking clout that the big media organizations are indispensable in something like the situation in Iran. I'm using the weasel-word "situation" because this fact about the media is true from the point of view of either side, and they are at least lining up pretty well on the proper side.
What's more, the people who are still there, and more to the point, those who are traveling into Iran at this stage, are to be commended for their courage and dedication.
The efforts of e-news sourced from all over and of big media usually run counter to each other, but in this case, they are complementary, which is right and good.
I find it difficult to fault those westerners in the media who have left. I agree with your point that the media is largely unable to cope with the tornado of information, but for the media, this is their version of war--there are no clear rules, and nobody is really in charge. Each organization must determine what their response to each cahnge in the situation will be, and in real-time. And with considerable risk to personnel, assets, and future opportunities for which they are responsible.
By and large, I would say that even with their structural inability to deal in an orderly fashion with the cascades of information, they are doing pretty well. I think that most of what is wrong with media coverage of developments in Iran is just a built-in part of the situation. This is, of course, a far brighter assessment than I would have issued a week ago.

197 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:14pm

re: #186 DEZes

Moonbat Jeebus.

Hello Lizards.

Hi Ya DEZes!

198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:23pm

re: #184 ArchangelMichael

Sean Connery: I believe you'd find that in the "R" section.
Alex Trebek: No, not in the "R's".
Sean Connery: Not in the "R's"? That's not what your mother said last night.

My favorite was French Stewart.

Alex: Write down any number and you win.
French (think it was Jimmy Falon): Threve.

199 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:56pm

re: #194 OldLineTexan

You betcha! Doesn't have to be pretty. You were very close though.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:05:10pm

re: #196 haakondahl

Good day, sir. I hope you are safe and well.

201 Kenneth  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:05:16pm

Path to freedom

Confirmed news from inside of Iran indicate that there will be widespread and nationwide strikes taking place in the country.

My own assessment is that the anti-regime activities may quiet down for a little while and it will shift to civil disobedience and non-violence mode. The anti-mullahocracy forces will not disappear but they're probably back to their drawing board planning for the path to freedom. Millions of people who came out to the streets of Iran's major cities in the past 8 days were not there to contest a sham election. They came out to reject the entire establishment and they paid a heavy price for their desire.

The Iranian regime dug its grave this past Friday and Saturday and they can't change their fate. They're doomed and the people of Iran will be free soon. Let's give the people of Iran the support and gratitude they deserve.

202 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:05:30pm

re: #193 Creeping Eruption

Actually, some of my neighbors told me after I bought my house that the previous owners had a little rocky patch in their marriage and one day the husband came home to find all of his stuff strewn across the front lawn. Apparently he had been screwing the secretary or something. Long memories in my neighborhood.

When I was seven or eight, I saw Mrs. Case next door dancing and singing around Mr. Case's beloved Cadillac with a hammer, smashing all the lights. For about two seconds. Then Mom yanked my arm out of its socket and closed the door.

;)

203 Clemente  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:05:58pm

re: #184 ArchangelMichael

Sean Connery: I believe you'd find that in the "R" section.
Alex Trebek: No, not in the "R's".
Sean Connery: Not in the "R's"? That's not what your mother said last night.

Alex Trebek: What? No. No, no, that is The Pen is Mightier.

Sean Connery: Gussy it up however you want, Trebek. What matters is does it work?

204 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:05:59pm

re: #197 MacDuff

Hi Ya DEZes!

Hiya, any meltdowns today?

205 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:06:27pm

re: #178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm thinkin' you're correct.

I'd like to vote on the Romney/Bolton ticket.

Romney for sure. I voted for him in the primary. I don't see Bolton entering electoral politics, but he'd make a kick-ass Secretary of State. I like Sanford and admire his stance on not accepting stimulus funds, but apparently he's beholden to the creationist/fundamentalist voters in his state. Now, if his manifesto (if there is one) declares his independence from the religious right as a voting bloc, I'd be very interested.

206 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:06:40pm

re: #204 DEZes

Hiya, any meltdowns today?

Yep. Short one.

207 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:07:14pm

re: #206 OldLineTexan

Yep. Short one.

Did you see the flounce yesterday?

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:07:23pm

Yeah. Bolton is great though.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:11pm

re: #207 DEZes

I hate missing a good flounce.

210 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:17pm

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My favorite was French Stewart.

Alex: Write down any number and you win.
French (think it was Jimmy Falon): Threve.

Colors that end in "urple"
"Light Urple"

Months that begin with "Feb"
"Febtober"
"Febtruary"

211 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:32pm

re: #196 haakondahl

I would actually like to give some props to the MSM, oddly enough.

You are deviating from the standard view.

Seize him!

212 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:34pm

re: #204 DEZes

Hiya, any meltdowns today?

yeah somebody decided to take a crap in the host's living room.

213 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:36pm

re: #207 DEZes

Did you see the flounce yesterday?

Who?

214 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:38pm

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate missing a good flounce.

Ditto. ;)

215 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:40pm

re: #207 DEZes

Did you see the flounce yesterday?

No, I was busy being punished for my failure to believe 100% in the "A" of "AGW", which I suppose may be better represented as "ACC".

Plus, I was off teh innernets for most of the day! Yay me!

/

216 Shinyhead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:54pm

re: #196 haakondahl


Your probably correct, as I am finding it difficult too.
Some of the oddball things is you can see that there are a lot of odd things mixed in.
Far too many exactly repeated messages, odd redirects and such.
It's sobering to realize that those twitter feeds could be, and probably are people on both sides of the conflict.

217 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:08:57pm

re: #202 OldLineTexan

When I was seven or eight, I saw Mrs. Case next door dancing and singing around Mr. Case's beloved Cadillac with a hammer, smashing all the lights. For about two seconds. Then Mom yanked my arm out of its socket and closed the door.

;)

Camp Lejeune NC, working with the MPs. Police reports came in this order over a week.

Domestic Disturbance: Dependent Wife and Single Marine, her throwing him out of the house.
Domestic Disturbance: Dependent Wife and Husband, Husband came back from overseas early.
Assault and Battery: Husband found Single Marine.

218 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:09:13pm

re: #204 DEZes

Hiya, any meltdowns today?

Oh yeah, AW's outahere and Space Jesus is working toward -1K. Stinky's been doing some weeding today.

219 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:00pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. Bolton is great though.

I think Bolton's personality is too strong for him to be relegated to VP. I agree Secretary of State..awesome.

220 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:14pm

Later.

221 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:29pm

re: #220 Occasional Reader

Later.

Meanie.

/

222 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:46pm

re: #219 Bobblehead

I think Bolton's personality is too strong for him to be relegated to VP. I agree Secretary of State..awesome.

Minor point, but we have to retake the White House first.

223 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:55pm

re: #207 DEZes

Did you see the flounce yesterday?

A flounce? Dang, missed it.

224 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:10:56pm

re: #220 Occasional Reader

Later.

/ Nursing the "wounds" from space jeebus?

225 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:11:19pm

re: #213 Creeping Eruption

Who?

The name eludes me, wasnt a regular poster.
He called Charles out....and ate a stick.

226 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:11:36pm

re: #199 BatGuano

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

227 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:11:53pm

re: #222 Nevergiveup

Minor point, but we have to retake the White House first.

We can dream can't we?

228 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:12:50pm

re: #227 Bobblehead

We can dream can't we?

Sure but when I dream it's about...well..it ain't about J. Bolton! Not that's there is anything wrong with that?

229 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:13:10pm

re: #226 BatGuano

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

Bloody Peasant!

230 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:13:22pm

re: #226 BatGuano

DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical
aquatic ceremony.

231 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:13:49pm

re: #226 BatGuano

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

232 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:13:52pm

re: #226 BatGuano

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a
mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!

233 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:14:03pm

re: #229 ArchangelMichael

Bloody Peasant!

DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that,
eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me,
you saw it didn't you?

234 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:14:29pm

re: #228 Nevergiveup

Sure but when I dream it's about...well..it ain't about J. Bolton! Not that's there is anything wrong with that?

You got me. LOL

235 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:14:32pm

re: #231 DEZes

[Video]

Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bink lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

236 tveitskog  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:16:15pm

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

237 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:16:56pm

re: #236 tveitskog

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

link?

238 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:17:35pm

re: #236 tveitskog

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

Do caves count as homes?

239 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:17:59pm

re: #236 tveitskog

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

You wage a fight where you find it, not because the fucking guidelines say where you can or can't.

Fucking bureaucrats calling shots on the ground. Cocksuckers every one of them.

240 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:18:07pm

From HuffPo: Protesters help a wounded cop....

We've seen a lot of this over the past week. I'm not sure if their restraint and good will is going to serve them well.

241 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:18:31pm

re: #122 ArchangelMichael

My question for people who say this is, if we armed Saddam, why was:

The Iraqi Air Force made up entirely of Soviet and French aircraft
The Iraqi army used all Soviet tanks and Soviet AK-47s.
All Iraqi ballistic and cruise missiles were Soviet, Chinese, or French.

Where are these "American weapons"?

you guys are insane. im talking about the iran-iraq war

242 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:18:45pm

re: #239 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You wage a fight where you find it, not because the fucking guidelines say where you can or can't.

Fucking bureaucrats calling shots on the ground. Cocksuckers every one of them.

tell us how you really feel...

243 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:18:47pm

re: #231 DEZes

I remember seeing that movie when it was released. Funny thing, the theater was packed but very few people got the humor. Of course my husband and I and our friends were laughing so hard we were nearly chocking.

244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:19:06pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

Newbie, may not know how to link yet.

re: #236 tveitskog

(*shouting*) Where did you see this, oh fair new Lizard?

245 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:19:16pm
246 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:19:57pm

re: #242 JustABill

tell us how you really feel...

I dont want to get banned.

247 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:12pm

re: #243 Bobblehead

I remember seeing that movie when it was released. Funny thing, the theater was packed but very few people got the humor. Of course my husband and I and our friends were laughing so hard we were nearly chocking.

The whole 'Knights who say nee" is much funnier when you realize that "shrubbery" is British slang for prostitute.

248 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:18pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Britain evacuating families of staff in Iran

Surprised they didn't do it earlier.

249 Sumo  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:25pm
250 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:27pm

re: #236 tveitskog

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

Alas, no bleed no lead. But Obama swatted a fly! Hooray for O!
/

251 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:29pm

re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Newbie, may not know how to link yet.

re: #236 tveitskog

(*shouting*) Where did you see this, oh fair new Lizard?

Well ok maybe, but still I only say "oh fair new lizard" to a broad, and I ain't sure what he/she is? But that's just me.

252 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:48pm

re: #243 Bobblehead

I remember seeing that movie when it was released. Funny thing, the theater was packed but very few people got the humor. Of course my husband and I and our friends were laughing so hard we were nearly chocking.

Many American's seem to be put off by English humor.

253 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:53pm

re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Britain evacuating families of staff in Iran

One thing we don't have to worry about?

254 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:20:54pm

re: #225 DEZes

The name eludes me, wasnt a regular poster.


Not recently, anyway. His whole world-view seemed to center on what LGF was like three years ago. Not like he had that right, either.

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:22:03pm

re: #243 Bobblehead

I was twelve. Didn't get much of it. Was pissed off, no farting.

Love it now.

256 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:22:15pm

re: #249 Sumo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_as/as _afghanistan

Thanks, what a feraken stupid rule. Can you say "Vietnam" and "micro managing" the War from the WH?

257 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #243 Bobblehead

I remember seeing that movie when it was released. Funny thing, the theater was packed but very few people got the humor. Of course my husband and I and our friends were laughing so hard we were nearly chocking.

You were chock full of laughter?

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:22:40pm

re: #249 Sumo

Thanks.

259 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:23:58pm

re: #257 Creeping Eruption

You were chock full of laughter?

Pun thread.

260 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:24:13pm

re: #247 JustABill

The whole 'Knights who say nee" is much funnier when you realize that "shrubbery" is British slang for prostitute.

Their show was on our PBS station here in Columbus every week night. It was part of our after dinner routine. By the time the movie was released we were well versed in Pythonisms.re: #257 Creeping Eruption

You were chock full of laughter?

PIMF. but we were indeed chock full of laughter

261 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:24:38pm

re: #113 Eowyn2

No that is
they put one of yours in the hospital
you kill one of theirs
they kill one of yours,
you kill two of theirs

That's the Chicago Way

262 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:14pm

re: #259 DEZes

Pun thread.

Chalk it up to typos.

263 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:19pm

re: #236 tveitskog

Oh goodie, a new US battle rule in Afghanistan, no fighting near Afghan homes. Does anyone wonder where the Islamic extremist will be planning all attacks, especially on US forces? Article by Associated Press Writer Jason Straziuso
This will increase the deaths of US forces and by the way, what ever happen to those death counts of US forces you would hear daily on the news some months ago?

And they'll know where to hide the nukes they get from Pakistan until they can use them on us.

264 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:34pm

re: #259 DEZes

Pun thread.

Unintentional on my part.

265 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:42pm

re: #249 Sumo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_as/as _afghanistan

Yup, breaking off and disengaging at the slightest chance is a sure fire way to defeat the enemy.

/

Cocksuckers.

266 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:55pm

re: #95 Sharmuta

AnneFrance -482

What I never understood about the carpetbombing of AnneFrance for her mostly asinine PDS eruption is that since then, I've seen far worse comments posted here that didn't get hundreds of downdings. Are we just totally desensitized to the stupid and the insane now? Is this what 6-8 months of troofers, nirthers, creationists, and antivaxxers have done to the Lizard Community?

267 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:25:55pm

re: #264 Bobblehead

Unintentional on my part.

Chock it up to poor typing?

268 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:26:31pm

re: #262 wrenchwench

Chalk it up to typos.

Damn. You got there first.

269 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:26:43pm

re: #264 Bobblehead

Unintentional on my part.

No pun thread. :(

270 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:27:35pm

re: #236 tveitskog


Welcome to Vietnam redux.

271 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:27:50pm

re: #268 Bobblehead

Damn. You got there first.

You were up on chocks?

272 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:27:52pm

re: #241 SpaceJesus

you guys are insane. im talking about the iran-iraq war

So you are now implying that in 2 years, Iraq dumped all it's American weapons, and bought billions worth of shitty Soviet and French surplus crap, and *then* decided to invade Kuwait.

And we are supposed to be insane? Wake up and smell what you're shoveling.

273 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:05pm

re: #269 DEZes

No pun thread. :(

Yes, we've chucked it overboard.

274 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:15pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael

I've seen much worse comments, but for whatever reason, they don't rise to the level of ding down worthiness as that comment did. I don't know why. Strange.

275 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:21pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael I suspect the novelty of seeing how big a hole we could dig for an idiotic remark wore off and now we don't waste that much time on a single example of idiocy.

We're into more equitable distribution of wealth under the Hopey Changey administration.

276 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:25pm

I thougth this was an Opun thread...
/ducks

277 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:30pm

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good day, sir. I hope you are safe and well.

I am both safe and well, thank you! Also, I just watched "We Were Soldiers" again, so I must ask how you know what kind of God-Damned day it is.

278 spudly  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:28:42pm

re: #195 Pianobuff

Brilliant piece.

279 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:04pm

re: #269 DEZes

No pun thread. :(


You got gypsumed out of the chalk puns.

280 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:09pm

Hi y'all.

281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:14pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael

I, for one, was agog about Sarah...Anne let this fly in the first few days when most (I said MOST!, KT) of us were a bit "taken" by Gov. Palin.

The only reason for Anne's post was to piss in our Lucky Charms.

282 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:23pm

re: #273 Bobblehead

Yes, we've chucked it overboard.

The chalk, and chock were chucked

283 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:26pm

re: #241 SpaceJesus

you guys are insane. im talking about the iran-iraq war

National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 139 of April 5, 1984, "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," focusing again on increased access for U.S. military forces in the Persian Gulf and enhanced intelligence-gathering capabilities. The directive calls for "unambiguous" condemnation of chemical weapons use, without naming Iraq, but places "equal stress" on protecting Iraq from Iran's "ruthless and inhumane tactics." The directive orders preparation of "a plan of action designed to avert an Iraqi collapse."

284 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:33pm

re: #276 JustABill

I thougth this was an Opun thread...
/ducks

Yes it is an opun thread where you can opine to you heart's content.

285 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:29:55pm

re: #280 Alaska Kim

Hi y'all.

Hi Kim. Did you have an earthquake?

286 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:30:29pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

Hi Kim. Did you have an earthquake?

Thats kind of a personal question in an open forum , don't you think?/

287 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:30:43pm

re: #241 SpaceJesus

you guys are insane. im talking about the iran-iraq war

Not for much longer, I'll bet.

288 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:03pm

re: #284 Bobblehead

Yes it is an opun thread where you can opine to you heart's content.

Why aorta go nuts then.

289 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:20pm

re: #281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I, for one, was agog about Sarah...Anne let this fly in the first few days when most (I said MOST!, KT) of us were a bit "taken" by Gov. Palin.

The only reason for Anne's post was to piss in our Lucky Charms.

I think it was her superior attitude that pissed me off. Very typical of those over-educated liberal women who look down on anyone who's not just like them.

290 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:22pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

Hi Kim. Did you have an earthquake?

Yep. Up north. I'm in SE, I didn't feel it. But we had one in SE a few weeks ago. It was weird, I was out watering the grass when it happened, I didn't feel it, but I got dizzy and had to go inside. Thats when I found out we had just had an earthquake and that is what must've made me dizzy.

291 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:27pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Hey, we've got another "we armed Saddam!" idiot on the Neda thread, if y'all want some speed-bag punching practice. (The idiot in question is SpaceJesus.)

Well, we did a bit. The USSR and France did whopping box-office business with him.

292 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:32pm

re: #274 Sharmuta

I've seen much worse comments, but for whatever reason, they don't rise to the level of ding down worthiness as that comment did. I don't know why. Strange.

If I recall Didn't annefrance frame herself as a concerned American then Charles called her out as posting from Canada..
Then the bombs fell from Heaven...

293 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:39pm

re: #286 Creeping Eruption

Thats kind of a personal question in an open forum , don't you think?/

I felt the Earth move under my feet.

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:43pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

In Alaska there could be an earthquake at one end, and you could be five thousand miles away from it.

(I know, you've told me a billion times not to exaggerate.)

295 LSD  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:31:58pm
296 nyc redneck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:32:06pm

since sarkozy and merkel have both come out and done the unthinkable, for o, which is actually make a choice, o will have to move in their direction.
he now will have to side w/ the citizens of iran who are putting their lives on the line for freedom. but he will find away to still nuance his support so as to not upset the tyrants whom he still wants to impress w/ his deep love of islam and his talents in peace making.

he is so devious and conniving. he doesn't have it in his heart to do the right thing for the right reasons or he would have done it by now.

297 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:32:12pm

Anyone see the show Discovery ran last night on the takedown of the Somali pirates? Really good, on what actually happened.
Turns out the pirate that we got, that the MSM says is some poor deluded kid, is the pirate captain!
Engineer was smart; shut the ship down so they couldn't take it to a pirate port, and then caught one of the pirate.

Boy, that Seal team was something, aimed at the lifeboat for quite a while until the third pirate stuck his head out, and got all 3 at the same time.
That takes patience and concentration.
Great job from everyone.

298 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:32:42pm

re: #286 Creeping Eruption

Thats kind of a personal question in an open forum , don't you think?/

"Hey Ace, you got any more of that gum?"

"That's none of your damn business and I'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs!"

299 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:32:49pm

re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In Alaska there could be an earthquake at one end, and you could be five thousand miles away from it.

(I know, you've told me a billion times not to exaggerate.)

pretty much!

300 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:33:15pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael

It takes really egregious stupidity to break through the exhaustion, yes.

301 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:33:40pm

re: #276 JustABill

I thougth this was an Opun thread...
/ducks

Quacks.

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:33:44pm

re: #297 Kosh's Shadow

I remember folks saying it sounded like one shot.

303 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:33:51pm

re: #283 jcm

National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 139 of April 5, 1984, "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," focusing again on increased access for U.S. military forces in the Persian Gulf and enhanced intelligence-gathering capabilities. The directive calls for "unambiguous" condemnation of chemical weapons use, without naming Iraq, but places "equal stress" on protecting Iraq from Iran's "ruthless and inhumane tactics." The directive orders preparation of "a plan of action designed to avert an Iraqi collapse."

Discusses indirect security and intelligence aid, nothing more.

304 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:34:05pm

re: #290 Alaska Kim

Yep. Up north. I'm in SE, I didn't feel it. But we had one in SE a few weeks ago. It was weird, I was out watering the grass when it happened, I didn't feel it, but I got dizzy and had to go inside. Thats when I found out we had just had an earthquake and that is what must've made me dizzy.

When I was a kid in So. Cal., if I felt momentarily dizzy, I'd look at the hanging lamp to see if it was an earthquake. Except when the pool sloshed over, then I didn't need to look.

305 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:34:22pm

re: #288 DEZes

Why aorta go nuts then.

Don't let me cashew going too wild.

306 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:35:14pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

When I was a kid in So. Cal., if I felt
momentarily dizzy, I'd look at the hanging lamp to see if it was an
earthquake. Except when the pool sloshed over, then I didn't need to
look.

A shoshing pool would be a good indicator!

307 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:35:15pm

re: #298 ArchangelMichael

"Hey Ace, you got any more of that gum?"

"That's none of your damn business and I'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs!"

"Hey Ed, congratulations, I hear your wife is pregnant."

"Yeah, and if I catch the son of a bitch..."

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:35:18pm

re: #113 Eowyn2

No that is
they put one of yours in the hospital
you kill one of theirs
they kill one of yours,
you kill two of theirs

"They put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of theirs in the morgue."

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:36:04pm

re: #292 HoosierHoops

Hoops! Good to see ya. My mid-range jumper is back and back LARGE! Got pretty good legs under me now too!

Yay!

310 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:36:21pm

re: #305 Bobblehead

Don't let me cashew going too wild.

Legume my nuts and let me bean.

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:14pm

re: #310 DaddyG

Legume my nuts and let me bean.

"YOU'RE GONNA LOVE MY NUTS!"

312 Bobblehead  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:20pm

re: #310 DaddyG

Legume my nuts and let me bean.

Only if you say "peas".

313 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:31pm

re: #305 Bobblehead

Don't let me cashew going too wild.

I'll hazel you know, I promise to keep it clean.

314 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:43pm

Fox News:

Strong earthquake jolts urban areas of Alaska

I'm sorry, but this is just a stupid headline. It hit the urban but not rural areas? It hit Anchorage and Fairbanks but not Wasilla? How big are the "urban areas" in Alaska?
And 5.5 is "strong"?
Yep, I'm being picky. But doesn't anyone know even a little geography?

315 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:54pm

So I;m sitting here watching the miserable AFN programming; Glenn B3ck comes on. He has this old Vermont fool on from the "Second Vermont Republic", a kook secessionist movement. Sounded fishy:

www. vermontrepublic. org/ twelve_axioms_of_ american_foreign_policy_towards_israel

Sure Enough. It's the JOOZ.

What is it with the unexamined, unapologetic airtime for Jew-hatred these days?

316 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:37:55pm

re: #143 Iron Fist

Now, now, Rumsfeld personally gave Saddam a rifle. Or something like that. Yeah, the French wanted to give him atomic bombs, and somebody was making nerve gas for Saddam in the late eighties, but Rumsfeld. Just say the man's name and listen to the evil creep out...

It's still a disgusting photo. We may not have created Saddam, but we played realpolitik with him like everyone else.

317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:38:11pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

"I can't say I approve of your methods, Mr. Ness."
"Well. You ain't from Chicago."

318 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:38:18pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoops! Good to see ya. My mid-range jumper is back and back LARGE! Got pretty good legs under me now too!

Yay!

My man! I think that game with the young studs and scoring 10 points and dishing out assists inspired you...
Kudo's!

319 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:39:07pm

re: #315 haakondahl

So I;m sitting here watching the miserable AFN programming; Glenn B3ck comes on. He has this old Vermont fool on from the "Second Vermont Republic", a kook secessionist movement. Sounded fishy:

www. vermontrepublic. org/ twelve_axioms_of_ american_foreign_policy_towards_israel

Sure Enough. It's the JOOZ.

What is it with the unexamined, unapologetic airtime for Jew-hatred these days?

The classics never go out of style.

/

320 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:39:21pm

re: #315 haakondahl

So I;m sitting here watching the miserable AFN programming; Glenn B3ck comes on. He has this old Vermont fool on from the "Second Vermont Republic", a kook secessionist movement. Sounded fishy:

www. vermontrepublic. org/ twelve_axioms_of_ american_foreign_policy_towards_israel

Sure Enough. It's the JOOZ.

What is it with the unexamined, unapologetic airtime for Jew-hatred these days?

I don't know, but it is all over the MSM. When does "Horseman Without a Horse" come out dubbed into English?
/never, I hope

321 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:39:36pm

re: #314 jim in virginia

"A 5.4 magnitude earthquake rocked Southcentral Alaska at 11:28 a.m. today, centered 33 miles southwest of Talkeetna. There were no immediate reports of damage."

From the Anchorage Daily News. It did rock the Mat-Su Valley (Palmer/Wasilla)

322 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:40:02pm

re: #239 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You wage a fight where you find it, not because the fucking guidelines say where you can or can't.

Fucking bureaucrats calling shots on the ground. Cocksuckers every one of them.

Reminds me of, "They can't bomb a eff'n outhouse without my say so".

323 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:40:29pm

re: #297 Kosh's Shadow
The SEAL team really earned their salaries that day.
As Biden would say, God love 'em!

324 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:40:30pm

Because backing out now would be rude:


The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.
President Barack Obama’s administration said earlier this month it would invite Iran to US embassy barbecues for the national holiday for the first time since the two nations severed relations following the 1979 Islamic revolution.
“There’s no thought to rescinding the invitations to Iranian diplomats,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.
“We have made a strategic decision to engage on a number of fronts with Iran,” Kelly said. “We tried many years of isolation, and we’re pursuing a different path now.”

(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)

325 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:40:33pm

re: #312 Bobblehead

Only if you say "peas".

re: #313 DEZes

I'll hazel you know, I promise to keep it clean.

Peas porridge hot peas porridge cold
Peas porridge for Macadamea research only...

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:40:49pm

re: #318 HoosierHoops

I'm going to be in much better shape going when I turn 50 than I was when I turned 40.

327 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:41:19pm

re: #325 DaddyG

Peas porridge hot peas porridge cold
Peas porridge for Macadamea research only...

Well I'll be a son of a beech.

328 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:42:05pm

re: #321 Alaska Kim

"A 5.4 magnitude earthquake rocked Southcentral Alaska at 11:28 a.m. today, centered 33 miles southwest of Talkeetna. There were no immediate reports of damage."

From the Anchorage Daily News. It did rock the Mat-Su Valley (Palmer/Wasilla)


Governor Palin; out there moose hunting with tactical nukes again? /Moonbat

329 ryannon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:42:47pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

Because backing out now would be rude:

(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)

Revolting.

330 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:43:14pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

You gotta be effen kidding me.

331 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:43:15pm

re: #256 Nevergiveup

Thanks, what a feraken stupid rule. Can you say "Vietnam" and "micro managing" the War from the WH?

Gen. Stanley McChrystal,is in charge and made the change in view of the civilian casualties. He's on the ground, and it's his plan. The General is a expert on counter insurgency and knows that collateral casualties do not endear the troops to the locals.

332 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:43:48pm

re: #328 DaddyG

Governor Palin; out there moose hunting with tactical nukes again? /Moonbat

Have you seen the size of those things? That just might get their attention. :)

333 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:00pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.

They should make it an extended celebration. Like, oh...444 days.

334 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:14pm

re: #328 DaddyG

Governor Palin; out there moose hunting with tactical nukes again? /Moonbat

Nah... just a little earthquake.

Alaskans never get up and run unless it's a 6.0 or more.

335 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:14pm

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Chronological age is peripheral.

ATTITUDE is paramount.

336 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:20pm

re: #331 avanti

Gen. Stanley McChrystal,is in charge and made the change in view of the civilian casualties. He's on the ground, and it's his plan. The General is a expert on counter insurgency and knows that collateral casualties do not endear the troops to the locals.

I stand by what I printed

337 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:23pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

We tried many years of isolation, and we’re pursuing a different path now.


No matter how many people the Revolutionary Guard shoots down in the streets.
Thank you Madam SecState.

338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:44:49pm

re: #335 irongrampa

Chronological age is peripheral.

ATTITUDE is paramount.

'kin A!

339 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:45:10pm

re: #333 wrenchwench

They should make it an extended celebration. Like, oh...444 days.

Can we give them "Stagflation" and a "Misery Index" to take home with them too?

340 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:45:33pm

re: #332 BlueCanuck Not the Alaskan Moose variety but I almost had an Elk reconfigure my van for me once. That was large enough thank you.

341 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:01pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

Because backing out now would be rude:

(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)

Un fucking believable.

342 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:05pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael

What I never understood about the carpetbombing of AnneFrance for her mostly asinine PDS eruption is that since then, I've seen far worse comments posted here that didn't get hundreds of downdings. Are we just totally desensitized to the stupid and the insane now? Is this what 6-8 months of troofers, nirthers, creationists, and antivaxxers have done to the Lizard Community?

I think the AnneFrance hit the "sweet spot" if you will, of derangement, debasement, and de bitch gotta go.

343 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:23pm

re: #265 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yup, breaking off and disengaging at the slightest chance is a sure fire way to defeat the enemy.

/

Cocksuckers.

I don't think he said that:

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of international forces in Afghanistan this month, has said his measure of effectiveness will be the "number of Afghans shielded from violence" — not the number of militants killed.
McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger, said U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith.

344 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:46pm
345 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:49pm

re: #335 irongrampa

Chronological age is peripheral.

ATTITUDE is paramount.


Can I use that line on my wife in order to skip out on my upcoming 44th birthday colonoscopy?

/don't answer that I already know... sigh.

346 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:54pm

re: #339 eschew_obfuscation

Can we give them "Stagflation" and a "Misery Index" to take home with them too?

And a sweater!

347 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:06pm

re: #330 BlueCanuck

You gotta be effen kidding me.

I'm sorry, I'm not.

348 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:13pm

re: #342 haakondahl

I think the AnneFrance hit the "sweet spot" if you will, of derangement, debasement, and de bitch gotta go.

It was a Hall of Fame Home run on her part

349 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:13pm

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm going to be in much better shape going when I turn 50 than I was when I turned 40.

Did you quit smoking FBV?
Thinkl of the poor kiddies!

350 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:27pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

Because backing out now would be rude:

(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)

We can't let a thing like a few dead protesters get in the way of the open hand now can we?

*spit*

351 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:33pm

re: #331 avanti

Gen. Stanley McChrystal,is in charge and made the change in view of the civilian casualties. He's on the ground, and it's his plan. The General is a expert on counter insurgency and knows that collateral casualties do not endear the troops to the locals.

Plenty of experts have managed a failure in the past.

352 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:40pm

re: #345 DaddyG

Can I use that line on my wife in order to skip out on my upcoming 44th birthday colonoscopy?

/don't answer that I already know... sigh.

Age doesn't matter. It's ugly you have to watch out for.

353 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:56pm

re: #336 Nevergiveup

I stand by what I printed

Fine, but I don't see the general in charge making decisions as micro managing from the WH.

354 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:48:16pm

re: #336 Nevergiveup

Watch-this is the prelude to withdrawal.

In time Harry Reid can say"This war is lost".


And he'll be right.

355 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:48:51pm

re: #350 jcm

We can't let a thing like a few dead protesters get in the way of the open hand now can we?

*spit*

I could cry. I honestly could break down and cry.

356 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:49:08pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

Because backing out now would be rude:


The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.
President Barack Obama’s administration said earlier this month it would invite Iran to US embassy barbecues for the national holiday for the first time since the two nations severed relations following the 1979 Islamic revolution.
“There’s no thought to rescinding the invitations to Iranian diplomats,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.
“We have made a strategic decision to engage on a number of fronts with Iran,” Kelly said. “We tried many years of isolation, and we’re pursuing a different path now.”


(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)


Whereas Dr. Pipes had the sack to climb down from his ill-considered longshot at proving himself smarter than average, the administration has no such baggage weighing it down.

357 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:49:31pm

re: #353 avanti

Fine, but I don't see the general in charge making decisions as micro managing from the WH.

That's exactly what happened in Vietnam

358 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:49:36pm

re: #343 avanti

I don't think he said that:

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of international forces in Afghanistan this month, has said his measure of effectiveness will be the "number of Afghans shielded from violence" — not the number of militants killed.
McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger, said U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith.

And the first NCO or junior officer "on the ground" who in the eyes of world misjudges imminent danger will be hung out to dry.

359 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:50:17pm

re: #345 DaddyG

Can I use that line on my wife in order to skip out on my upcoming 44th birthday colonoscopy?

/don't answer that I already know... sigh.

You gonna LOVE the magic jug of "juice".

/

360 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:50:17pm

re: #343 avanti

I don't think he said that:

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of international forces in Afghanistan this month, has said his measure of effectiveness will be the "number of Afghans shielded from violence" — not the number of militants killed.McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger, said U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith.

That is eerily similar to gauging the economic recovery by the number of jobs saved.
Bullshit in both cases.

361 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:50:36pm

re: #340 DaddyG

Not the Alaskan Moose variety but I almost had an Elk reconfigure my van for me once. That was large enough thank you.

A guy I know was out hunting with his son when he came wayyyyy too close to a very large elk. The elk snuck up on him I suppose...anyway, he says he has never been quite so frightened in his life. They are very big animals.

362 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:50:52pm

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the first NCO or junior officer "on the ground" who in the eyes of world misjudges imminent danger will be hung out to dry.

And that message will get out fast

363 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:51:04pm

re: #353 avanti

I haven't seen you comment on this, maybe you missed it...

The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.
President Barack Obama’s administration said earlier this month it would invite Iran to US embassy barbecues for the national holiday for the first time since the two nations severed relations following the 1979 Islamic revolution.

“There’s no thought to rescinding the invitations to Iranian diplomats,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.

“We have made a strategic decision to engage on a number of fronts with Iran,” Kelly said. “We tried many years of isolation, and we’re pursuing a different path now.”

Interesting position to take considering recent developments in Iran.

364 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:51:15pm

re: #345 DaddyG
DaddyG, it really is not that bad. Worry before hand is far worse than the prep; the prep is worse than the procedure. The procedure is nothing.

365 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:51:17pm

re: #347 capitalist piglet

Sad part was that I knew you weren't when you posted that. Man, I don't think even Jimmah C was that appeasement oriented.

366 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:51:44pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

A guy I know was out hunting with his son when he came wayyyyy too close to a very large elk. The elk snuck up on him I suppose...anyway, he says he has never been quite so frightened in his life. They are very big animals.

That was one deft elf.

367 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:51:54pm

re: #351 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plenty of experts have managed a failure in the past.

All I've read about this guy is very positive. Here's some

background.

368 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:52:34pm

re: #366 Pianobuff

That was one deft elf.

Elf's are very deft, it's the large woodland creatures that can shock the shit out of you. :)

369 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:52:37pm

re: #364 jim in virginia

DaddyG, it really is not that bad. Worry before hand is far worse than the prep; the prep is worse than the procedure. The procedure is nothing.

Yeah, you'll be out like an incandescent light at Earth Day! You'll miss any pointing and laughing, and when they rotate the frame over and "pound 'er home" you won't feel a thing.

/

370 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:53:03pm

re: #367 avanti

All I've read about this guy is very positive. Here's some

background.

And what would have been your evaluation of William Westmorland BEFORE he took command in Vietnam?

371 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:53:19pm

re: #334 Alaska Kim

Nah... just a little earthquake.

Alaskans never get up and run unless it's a 6.0 or more.

In Japan, my rule of thumb is "High five; no joke". Odd, since I was raised in Douglas.

372 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:53:29pm
373 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:53:34pm

re: #324 capitalist piglet

Because backing out now would be rude:

(Via HotAir/Yid with Lid)

Absolutely disgraceful and shameful.

374 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:03pm

re: #359 OldLineTexan

You gonna LOVE the magic jug of "juice".

/

For the first time in my life, I feel really CLEAN!

375 Aye Pod  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:22pm

If people were free to choose, they would choose to be free

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

...Usually, those of us who argue that fundamental principles are universal and should therefore be applied and argued for universally are basing our arguments on a belief that, if people were free to choose, they would choose to be free. The cultural relativists have long said that we have no basis for our claims and challenge our presumptuousness; in doing so, they – so they say – are defending the culture of, in this case, the people of Iran. But now they are being presented with the evidence that huge numbers of people of Iran are no more culturally wedded to repressive theocracy than are the people of Britain. In full view of the world, people in Iran are turning out in their millions to protest against the flagrant disregard for their will, their desire, their overwhelming need to be freer than they are.

And the parts of the left who have so far, so singly failed to live up to their duty of internationalism with the murdered and maimed trade unionists, socialists, feminists and other dissenters against this Iranian regime, are faced with a very real choice, one which will tell us everything we need to know about their commitment to a truly universal struggle against global injustice.

That choice may be academic – it will have no material impact on their lives here in the West; it may make little difference to those clamouring for their rights in the streets of Tehran, but it is a choice as clear as crystal: Do they join the calls for gender equality and greater personal freedom, or do they support a theocratic, deeply conservative regime?

376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:25pm

re: #345 DaddyG

I'll probably wait til 50. What's yer hurry?

377 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:39pm

re: #368 BlueCanuck

Elf's are very deft, it's the large woodland creatures that can shock the shit out of you. :)

Oooops, my bad. You know, I even said "deft elk" in my head before typing and thought what a marvelous unintended tongue-twister that is.... try it!

I'll probably never again in my life have the opportunity to discuss a "deft elk" again, sadly.

378 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:41pm

re: #371 haakondahl

You were raised in Douglas? My office is about 3 blocks from the Douglas Bridge (downtown).

379 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:54:51pm

re: #345 DaddyG

Can I use that line on my wife in order to skip out on my upcoming 44th birthday colonoscopy?

I think she'll tell you to stick that up there, too.

380 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:56:00pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

Yeah, you'll be out like an incandescent light at Earth Day! You'll miss any pointing and laughing, and when they rotate the frame over and "pound 'er home" you won't feel a thing.

/

OLT, we're trying to encourage the guy.
(Shhh- don't tell him how bad it really is.)

381 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:56:22pm

re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll probably wait til 50. What's yer hurry?

Why wait? Actually it's a bit fun, if you like drugs and anal sex. :)

382 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:56:36pm

re: #380 jim in virginia

OLT, we're trying to encourage the guy.
(Shhh- don't tell him how bad it really is.)

I don't remember nothin'.

383 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:57:05pm

re: #380 jim in virginia

Can't be worse then what they do for biopsy's on the upper intestinal tract. Now THAT is fun.

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:57:10pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

Hey, butt-ie.

385 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:57:51pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

Why wait? Actually it's a bit fun, if you like drugs and anal sex. :)

TMI, TMI!

/runs screaming for the bottle of brain bleach.
//speaking of which time to run for more mix...

386 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:58:31pm

re: #382 OldLineTexan
You know you're a geezer when you start telling people about your colonoscopy.

387 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:58:53pm

re: #360 LGoPs

That is eerily similar to gauging the economic recovery by the number of jobs saved.
Bullshit in both cases.

Hah! I thought the exact same thing upon reading it. But let me lay this out here:
Petraeus hired this guy. Imported him. I'll write more about this years from now. But I wouldn't get all down in the mouth about it.

388 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:58:58pm

re: #384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, butt-ie.

Really. I got did it over a year ago, and then recently, a month or so ago, I had a gastric scope. So, now I have a DVD of the whole trip, from one end to the other.

It's sort of like an Imax adventure flick.

389 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:59:01pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

Yeah, you'll be out like an incandescent light at Earth Day! You'll miss any pointing and laughing, and when they rotate the frame over and "pound 'er home" you won't feel a thing.

/

Thats the truth. I had one done a few years ago because of family history. I woke up at home and called my parents that evening to tell them everything went ok. They told me I had already called them 4 hours earlier. I have no actual memory from the time they put in the IV till waking up at home.

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:59:21pm

re: #386 jim in virginia

Old punchline...

"Wait! He had both his hands on my shoulders!"

391 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:00:37pm

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Old punchline...

"Wait! He had both his hands on my shoulders!"

that punchline isn't so old! heh

392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:00:47pm

BBLIYAL!

393 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:03pm

re: #388 Walter L. Newton
They gave you a DVD? All I got was six full color photographs.
Big Medicine is ripping me off.

394 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:05pm
395 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:17pm

re: #386 jim in virginia

You know you're a geezer when you start telling people about your colonoscopy.

Is a sigmoidoscopy supposed to be better or worse than a colonoscopy?

396 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:24pm

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Old punchline...

"Wait! He had both his hands on my shoulders!"

I didn't know that was suppose to be a joke?

397 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:31pm

re: #360 LGoPs

That is eerily similar to gauging the economic recovery by the number of jobs saved.
Bullshit in both cases.

The issue was killing a few dozen civilians to get a few insurgents was not a winning plan. The Afghan government getting a lot of heat over civilian causalities like
these..

398 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:01:37pm

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Old punchline...

"Wait! He had both his hands on my shoulders!"

Hey nurse, watch this.

399 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:03:05pm

re: #370 Nevergiveup

And what would have been your evaluation of William Westmorland BEFORE he took command in Vietnam?

I'm going to give Gates the benefit of the doubt on the pick of the new general before I make judgments on his performance.

400 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:03:42pm

re: #399 avanti

I'm going to give Gates the benefit of the doubt on the pick of the new general before I make judgments on his performance.

Well when you fall back on Gates as an excuse I know your in trouble

401 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:03:59pm

re: #395 Pianobuff
No idea. But if they put you out for it you probably will never know the difference.

402 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:04:01pm

re: #378 Alaska Kim

You were raised in Douglas? My office is about 3 blocks from the Douglas Bridge (downtown).

Wow. That would be the new bridge, which I never saw. The old monster was a truly beautiful thing. I remember when three cruise ships in a day was something.
Actually, I'm a bit curious about one of the houses I lived in, out on third street, Douglas.

My father used to work in the SOB, which may be gone now, and I recall, I think, the Baronoff? Was that the magnificent hotel & bar that burned several years ago?

403 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:04:50pm

re: #395 Pianobuff

Is a sigmoidoscopy supposed to be better or worse than a colonoscopy?

I'm not sure what the difference is, but my sigmoidoscopy was excruciating. They did it to diagnose abdominal pain that turned out to be irritable bowel syndrome. Unfortunately, sigmoidoscopy itself aggravated the symptoms. When I had my first child a few years later, it did not seem one-tenth as bad to me as the sigmoidoscopy.

404 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:05:26pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

Yeah, you'll be out like an incandescent light at Earth Day! You'll miss any pointing and laughing, and when they rotate the frame over and "pound 'er home" you won't feel a thing.

/

Well, he's not having it done in Texas, so you may be a bit off the mark there.

405 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:05:38pm

re: #401 jim in virginia

No idea. But if they put you out for it you probably will never know the difference.

IF they put you out for it. I was wide awake.

406 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:05:45pm

re: #401 jim in virginia

No idea. But if they put you out for it you probably will never know the difference.

Unfortunately they don't for the sigmoidoscopy (not me anyway) and it can get uncomfortable. I'm rubbing up against the age where I'll have to get a colonoscopy eventually and wondered how it compares.

407 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:05:52pm

re: #386 jim in virginia

You know you're a geezer when you start telling people about your colonoscopy.

Driving from Sedona to Skyharbor Airport in Phoenix we stopped to eat at about 4pm.
It became clear that we were at an early bird buffet near Sun City.
I am not kidding, they were all argueing about who had the better doctor.
I made my wife promise to shoot me if I morphed in to that. She happily agreed.

408 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:06:30pm

re: #397 avanti

The issue was killing a few dozen civilians to get a few insurgents was not a winning plan. The Afghan government getting a lot of heat over civilian causalities like
these..

By that reasoning we wouldn't have gotten the Al Qaeda leader Al-Zawahiri or whatever the hell his name was in Iraq. I recall that a number of people were killed when we sent bombs to his house as well.
In wartime you can have only one #1 prioirty - killing the enemy. Any more than that and you're inviting all kinds of unpredictable factors into the equation.

409 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:06:50pm

re: #385 BlueCanuck

TMI, TMI!

/runs screaming for the bottle of brain bleach.
//speaking of which time to run for more mix...

Mmmmmmm... eagerly looking forward to my next brain bleach fix. No idea when, but it has been a while!

410 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:06:59pm

re: #405 doppelganglander

Owwwwwww.

411 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:07:06pm

Afternoon, lizards! What's happenin'?

412 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:07:29pm

re: #388 Walter L. Newton

Really. I got did it over a year ago, and then recently, a month or so ago, I had a gastric scope. So, now I have a DVD of the whole trip, from one end to the other.

It's sort of like an Imax adventure flick.

Icrax.

413 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:07:40pm

re: #411 Fenway_Nation

Afternoon, lizards! What's happenin'?

Is that you Derek?

414 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:07:51pm

re: #403 doppelganglander

I'm not sure what the difference is, but my sigmoidoscopy was excruciating. They did it to diagnose abdominal pain that turned out to be irritable bowel syndrome. Unfortunately, sigmoidoscopy itself aggravated the symptoms. When I had my first child a few years later, it did not seem one-tenth as bad to me as the sigmoidoscopy.

That's strange because the sigmoidoscopy is only an insertion of the scope up to the sigmoid, where as the colonoscopy follows through the whole small intestine.

They are both the same, except for distance.

415 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:08:23pm

Movie News

Sam Worthington (Marcus from Terminator Salvation) will be Perseus in the remake of "Clash of the Titans"

Additional Cast:
Liam Neeson, Ralph Fiennes

416 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:08:24pm

re: #406 Pianobuff

Unfortunately they don't for the sigmoidoscopy (not me anyway) and it can get uncomfortable. I'm rubbing up against the age where I'll have to get a colonoscopy eventually and wondered how it compares.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

417 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:08:39pm

re: #402 haakondahl

Now we get 5 or 6 cruise ships a day. That's the only part I don't like about working downtown.

The SOB is still there. I can see it from here. I worked there for 12 years before I transferred to a different department with the State. The Baranof is still there. I moved here in 1994 from Sitka.

You wouldn't believe how much Douglas has grown. There are super expensive houses being built all the way up that mountain. Must be a bitch in the winter with the steep driveways.

418 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:09:22pm

re: #403 doppelganglander

I'm not sure what the difference is, but my sigmoidoscopy was excruciating. They did it to diagnose abdominal pain that turned out to be irritable bowel syndrome. Unfortunately, sigmoidoscopy itself aggravated the symptoms. When I had my first child a few years later, it did not seem one-tenth as bad to me as the sigmoidoscopy.

Yowie. Mine wasn't as bad as your experience. They inflated me like a Macy's float which was the uncomfortable part and I spent the better part of the afternoon "deflating".

Top pain for me was a ruptured appendix.... after that kidneystones.

419 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:09:49pm

re: #408 LGoPs

By that reasoning we wouldn't have gotten the Al Qaeda leader Al-Zawahiri or whatever the hell his name was in Iraq. I recall that a number of people were killed when we sent bombs to his house as well.
In wartime you can have only one #1 prioirty - killing the enemy. Any more than that and you're inviting all kinds of unpredictable factors into the equation.

You have to break things to win a war.
Its not a popularity contest, but libtards want to play nicey nice with brutal thugs.

420 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:31pm

re: #406 Pianobuff

Unfortunately they don't for the sigmoidoscopy (not me anyway) and it can get uncomfortable. I'm rubbing up against the age where I'll have to get a colonoscopy eventually and wondered how it compares.


Worst part of the colonoscopy was the day before prep: unpleasant but not painful. At the doctors office the nurse put an IV in my arm, the wheeled me into the room, I woke up thirty minutes later and we were done. I don't remember a thing.

421 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:42pm

re: #418 Pianobuff

Yowie. Mine wasn't as bad as your experience. They inflated me like a Macy's float which was the uncomfortable part and I spent the better part of the afternoon "deflating".

Top pain for me was a ruptured appendix.... after that kidneystones.

Had Kidneystones once. I pity almost anyone who gets them.

422 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:45pm

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

I haven't seen you comment on this, maybe you missed it...

Interesting position to take considering recent developments in Iran.

As long as it's just the diplomats and not the leadership it might be a opportunity to express our displeasure at what the government is doing. The worlds diplomats might want to bend their ear over a hamburger too. Nice counterpoint to the way they treated our diplomats too.

423 jorline  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:50pm

Strange story..."Weekend At Bernie's"?

Sanford, missing since Thursday, reportedly located

Neither the governor’s office nor the State Law Enforcement Division, which provides security for governors, had been able to reach Sanford after he left the mansion Thursday in a black SLED Suburban SUV, said Sen. Jake Knotts and three others familiar with the situation but declined to be identified.

424 Aye Pod  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:51pm

[Link: www.slate.com...]

I just read Hitchen's latest piece in Slate. I gotta agreee with him on this , that whatever the wisdom of maintaining a non-interventionist attitude, Obama's respectful language regarding Khamenei and the regime was an unpleasant mistake:

That last observation also applies to the Obama administration. Want to take a noninterventionist position? All right, then, take a noninterventionist position. This would mean not referring to Khamenei in fawning tones as the supreme leader and not calling Iran itself by the tyrannical title of "the Islamic republic." But be aware that nothing will stop the theocrats from slandering you for interfering anyway. Also try to bear in mind that one day you will have to face the young Iranian democrats who risked their all in the battle and explain to them just what you were doing when they were being beaten and gassed. (Hint: Don't make your sole reference to Iranian dictatorship an allusion to a British-organized coup in 1953; the mullahs think that it proves their main point, and this generation has more immediate enemies to confront.)

425 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:10:56pm

re: #418 Pianobuff

Yowie. Mine wasn't as bad as your experience. They inflated me like a Macy's float which was the uncomfortable part and I spent the better part of the afternoon "deflating".

Top pain for me was a ruptured appendix.... after that kidneystones.

Pluto is that you?

426 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:12:02pm

re: #400 Nevergiveup

Well when you fall back on Gates as an excuse I know your in trouble

Sorry, I've always liked Gates and respect both his judgment and service to country.

427 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:12:15pm

re: #420 jim in virginia

Worst part of the colonoscopy was the day before prep: unpleasant but not painful. At the doctors office the nurse put an IV in my arm, the wheeled me into the room, I woke up thirty minutes later and we were done. I don't remember a thing.

The purge the day before was awful. The stuff they give you tastes like dirty soap and had to drink it all in a given time. Nasty stuff.

428 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:12:34pm

re: #422 avanti

As long as it's just the diplomats and not the leadership it might be a opportunity to express our displeasure at what the government is doing. The worlds diplomats might want to bend their ear over a hamburger too. Nice counterpoint to the way they treated our diplomats too.

Oh good grief.

429 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:13:32pm

re: #417 Alaska Kim

Now we get 5 or 6 cruise ships a day. That's the only part I don't like about working downtown.

The SOB is still there. I can see it from here. I worked there for 12 years before I transferred to a different department with the State. The Baranof is still there. I moved here in 1994 from Sitka.

You wouldn't believe how much Douglas has grown. There are super expensive houses being built all the way up that mountain. Must be a bitch in the winter with the steep driveways.

Wonder if Ron Moss is still re-selling the same plots of land in the slide zones on your side?

430 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:13:48pm

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

That's strange because the sigmoidoscopy is only an insertion of the scope up to the sigmoid, where as the colonoscopy follows through the whole small intestine.

They are both the same, except for distance.

My pain was in my right abdomen, so they went up the colon on the left (the descending colon), then across, then down the right (the ascending colon). Maybe the terminology has changed - this was in 1983. I don't think it would have been as bad if it hadn't aggravated the very symptom they were trying to diagnose. Also, drugs would have been a huge plus.

431 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:13:48pm

re: #421 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Had Kidneystones once. I pity almost anyone who gets them.

Yeah, they suck pretty bad. Had them on my wedding day - at the ER at 5 AM and waited around forever before they would give me anything.

432 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:13:52pm

re: #229 ArchangelMichael

Sorry Archangel, I just belatedly updinged you. Absolutely deserved.

433 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:13:57pm

re: #427 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The purge the day before was awful. The stuff they give you tastes like dirty soap and had to drink it all in a given time. Nasty stuff.

I had a choice of berry or bannaa flavor. Berry flavor chalk still tastes like chalk.

434 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:14:28pm

re: #419 DEZes

The thrust of this is to break off contact if civilians are endangered by engagement.Same with initial engagement--just means that the Taliban get to set the terms of engagement. There'll be an influx of Taliban into residential areas to base their ops from, with perfect cover.

What possible downside can be seen here?/

435 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:15:22pm

re: #431 Pianobuff

Yeah, they suck pretty bad. Had them on my wedding day - at the ER at 5 AM and waited around forever before they would give me anything.

And then you got married?

436 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:15:29pm

re: #431 Pianobuff

Yeah, they suck pretty bad. Had them on my wedding day - at the ER at 5 AM and waited around forever before they would give me anything.

Got to the ER at around 9pm, they didn't get to me till around 2am. On the bright side, the first thing I heard when I got out of there was they had caught Saddam.

437 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:15:31pm

re: #429 haakondahl

His name doesn't sound familiar. I live out in the valley.

438 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:15:51pm

re: #426 avanti

Sorry, I've always liked Gates and respect both his judgment and service to country.

I respect he has served his country but unlike you I never liked him. And anyone who can serve 2 masters is not someone I could trust, but then I never trusted him.

439 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:16:15pm

re: #433 jim in virginia

I had a choice of berry or bannaa flavor. Berry flavor chalk still tastes like chalk.

Lemon flavored soap tastes exactly like lemon flavored soap.

440 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:16:16pm

re: #419 DEZes

You have to break things to win a war.
Its not a popularity contest, but libtards want to play nicey nice with brutal thugs.

Agreed. And the jury is out on this General, IMO. Just because he wears stars doesn't make him infallible (just look at Wesley Clark for crying out loud. I wouldn't follow him to a picnic.)
McChrystal will follow the orders that his CinC gives him and I don't trust the judgement of this CinC. Not for a minute.

441 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:16:31pm

re: #433 jim in virginia

I had a choice of berry or bannaa flavor. Berry flavor chalk still tastes like chalk.

Then there are the lovely self-administered enemas in the last 24 hours... at least my doctor made me do it.

I don't believe they were flavored, though, but how would I know.

442 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:16:37pm

re: #434 irongrampa

The thrust of this is to break off contact if civilians are endangered by engagement.Same with initial engagement--just means that the Taliban get to set the terms of engagement. There'll be an influx of Taliban into residential areas to base their ops from, with perfect cover.

What possible downside can be seen here?/

Exactly, its letting the enemy use civilians as cover with a generals blessing.

443 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:16:55pm

re: #422 avanti

As long as it's just the diplomats and not the leadership it might be a opportunity to express our displeasure at what the government is doing. The worlds diplomats might want to bend their ear over a hamburger too. Nice counterpoint to the way they treated our diplomats too.

Yes, similar to the cutting and decisive language that the administration has used up to this point. Considering the administrations record so far, of flitting about the world apologizing for our countries past "mistakes," and the hands off attitude display recently by Obama in regards to the protests, what is it that makes you think that our diplomats will be doing any "ear bending" with the Iranian diplomats?

Answer?

444 Zimriel  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:17:23pm

re: #41 Creeping Eruption

[A.W. in past tense]

Whoa. I totally missed that. And earlier today I'd given him an upding...

What happened to A.W.? Alcohol?

445 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:17:39pm

Breaking news on Fox- one dead, nine hurt in DC metro train collision. No details yet.

446 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:17:56pm

re: #422 avanti

As long as it's just the diplomats and not the leadership it might be a opportunity to express our displeasure at what the government is doing. The worlds diplomats might want to bend their ear over a hamburger too. Nice counterpoint to the way they treated our diplomats too.

That is the most twisted, fucked up analysis I've heard in a long time......
You must work in a pretzel factory.
Sheesh.

447 jorline  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:17:58pm

persiankiwi People - no business in Iran TUESDAY - sorry we are all on STRIKE - #Iranelection

If this gets organized it could cripple the government. Nothing like screwing with the economy.

448 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18:05pm

re: #422 avanti

As long as it's just the diplomats and not the leadership it might be a opportunity to express our displeasure at what the government is doing. The worlds diplomats might want to bend their ear over a hamburger too. Nice counterpoint to the way they treated our diplomats too.

The diplomats' only function is to represent the leadership.
One wonders for what offense the Iranian thugocracy would finally be cut off from our Manifest Density?

449 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18:10pm

re: #441 Pianobuff

Then there are the lovely self-administered enemas in the last 24 hours... at least my doctor made me do it.

I don't believe they were flavored, though, but how would I know.

No enemas for me. Just had to drink the purgative and then was restricted to a clear liquid diet the rest of the night and no food or drink the day of the procedure.

450 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18:47pm

re: #446 LGoPs

That is the most twisted, fucked up analysis I've heard in a long time......
You must work in a pretzel factory.
Sheesh.

that was funny!

451 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18:57pm

re: #437 Alaska Kim

His name doesn't sound familiar. I live out in the valley.

Out past the Nugget Mall?

452 Rancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18:58pm

I don't know if this has been postulated yet, but aside from flushing out dissidents to be dealt with might the Mullahs in Iran have generated this crisis to drive up the price of oil? If so it’s not working.

453 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:19:31pm

re: #449 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #441 Pianobuff


No enemas for me. Just had to drink the purgative and then was restricted to a clear liquid diet the rest of the night and no food or drink the day of the procedure.

Crystal tomoato bisque?

454 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:02pm

re: #443 Walter L. Newton

Yes, similar to the cutting and decisive language that the administration has used up to this point. Considering the administrations record so far, of flitting about the world apologizing for our countries past "mistakes," and the hands off attitude display recently by Obama in regards to the protests, what is it that makes you think that our diplomats will be doing any "ear bending" with the Iranian diplomats?

Answer?

I have no idea, what if anything they might ask, maybe they'll just pee in the Iranians beer.

455 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:13pm

re: #451 haakondahl

Out past the Nugget Mall?

Yes, about 3 miles from the glacier, off of Mendenhall Loop Road. Did you know where Don Abel's is?

456 Dreader1962  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:17pm

re: #426 avanti

Sorry, I've always liked Gates and respect both his judgment and service to country.

I just wanted to add my two cents here - my old Chief served under General McChrystal when he was at the battalion level and says he is the best officer he's known. This Chief is one of the best officers that I've served under, so his endorsement means a lot to me.

I'll reserve judgment and see how he does in Afghanistan. I'll admit that the quote has a B.S. factor in it, but also assume that it was cherry-picked out of a wider context.

457 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:35pm

re: #420 jim in virginia

Worst part of the colonoscopy was the day before prep: unpleasant but not painful. At the doctors office the nurse put an IV in my arm, the wheeled me into the room, I woke up thirty minutes later and we were done. I don't remember a thing.

Good evening, Lizards.

That's sort of what I experienced. Took all day before "cleaning out", went in, they stuck the IV in, went away. Half-hour later, the nurse came back, I'm sitting there, reading a magazine, bored but as yet not out. They wheel me in, stick the O2 thingie under my nose, say, "OK. Mr. eon, we're going to give you something that'll make you feel really good." I say "OK", check the clock- 1017 hours. I turn over as ordered.

Next thing I feel is the whatsit being pulled out. I check the clock; 1032 hours. They pull the IV, I get up, walk to Recovery, get dressed. No big deal.

What I don't know is that the Dr. is on the phone to my family doc, wanting to know why they had to use enough sedative for a moose to keep me out for 15 minutes. He tells them, "Mr. eon has a very high resistance to sedation. Didn't you read his records I sent over?"

Still, no big deal, and I have some interesting photos- sort of like the movie Fantastic Voyage.

cheers

eon

458 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:40pm

re: #435 wrenchwench

And then you got married?

Yup. By then my fiance had left to get ready.... She said that if we didn't end up getting married she didn't want to miss the party or something like that.

My father came by in the meantime and at some point they gave me a rather substantial dose of morphine in my IV and said I could go. Had to take a little fishnet to do #1 (to catch the stone). They gave my a bottle of vicodin and told me to have a good time.

459 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:20:51pm

re: #445 Jim in Virginia

Breaking news on Fox- one dead, nine hurt in DC metro train collision. No details yet.

How on earth could that happen?

460 Dreader1962  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:22:07pm

re: #457 eon

Still, no big deal, and I have some interesting photos- sort of like the movie Fantastic Voyage.

You mean you had Raquel Welch in there?

;)

461 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:22:29pm

ABC: Two trains have collided on the Red Line between the Takoma and Fort Totten stations (in DC, near Maryland.) Six car train derailed. Happened around 5 pm.

462 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:22:34pm

re: #459 Dianna

How on earth could that happen?

someone was texting. wanna bet?

463 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:22:50pm

re: #460 Dreader1962

You mean you had Raquel Welch in there?

;)

I wish. ;-)

cheers

eon

464 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:23:22pm

re: #266 ArchangelMichael

What I never understood about the carpetbombing of AnneFrance for her mostly asinine PDS eruption is that since then, I've seen far worse comments posted here that didn't get hundreds of downdings. Are we just totally desensitized to the stupid and the insane now? Is this what 6-8 months of troofers, nirthers, creationists, and antivaxxers have done to the Lizard Community?

You've got to admit, 619 downdings for 18 comments is a hell of a record.

465 Dianna  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:23:23pm

re: #462 Alaska Kim

someone was texting. wanna bet?

That happened in LA, so I guess it's possible.

466 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:23:28pm

BBIAW

467 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:23:28pm

re: #458 Pianobuff

Yup. By then my fiance had left to get ready.... She said that if we didn't end up getting married she didn't want to miss the party or something like that.

My father came by in the meantime and at some point they gave me a rather substantial dose of morphine in my IV and said I could go. Had to take a little fishnet to do #1 (to catch the stone). They gave my a bottle of vicodin and told me to have a good time.

And I'll bet you did! For a while, anyway.

468 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:23:41pm

re: #456 Dreader1962

I just wanted to add my two cents here - my old Chief served under General McChrystal when he was at the battalion level and says he is the best officer he's known. This Chief is one of the best officers that I've served under, so his endorsement means a lot to me.

I'll reserve judgment and see how he does in Afghanistan. I'll admit that the quote has a B.S. factor in it, but also assume that it was cherry-picked out of a wider context.

That's all I would expect, give the guy a chance. BTW, thanks for personal insight.

469 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:24:32pm

re: #454 avanti

I have no idea, what if anything they might ask, maybe they'll just pee in the Iranians beer.

Avanti, I don't want to plie on here, but why would Iranian diplomats wander from the party line? They represent the Mullah thugoracy.
If the Social structure in place collapses, the diplomats are in a bad place.

470 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:24:41pm

re: #467 wrenchwench

And I'll bet you did! For a while, anyway.

It was a blast from what I remember (or at least that's what I'm told)...heh.

471 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:25:18pm

re: #454 avanti

I have no idea, what if anything they might ask, maybe they'll just pee in the Iranians beer.

Well, that was a grand non-answer to my question. And not even clever. You are the one that presented the situation of the diplomats bending each others ear, and I countered, and you have nothing to back up your original supposition? You see Avanti, even when I do try to converse with you in some metered and calm way, you avoid the debate, much the same as you do if someone is yelling at you, arguing with you, rationalizing with you or simply pointing something out to you.

You run away no matter what, using claims that the person who is debating you is being this way or that. For you, a debate is anything you want to talk about, and argument is anything you don't want to talk about, and you call the shots.

Lame.

472 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:25:41pm

re: #461 Jim in Virginia

ABC: Two trains have collided on the Red Line between the Takoma and Fort Totten stations (in DC, near Maryland.) Six car train derailed. Happened around 5 pm.

re: #461 Jim in Virginia

ABC: Two trains have collided on the Red Line between the Takoma and Fort Totten stations (in DC, near Maryland.) Six car train derailed. Happened around 5 pm.

I spoke to my daughter about a half hour ago so when I heard about it I knew exactly where she was when it happened (nowhere near the scene). If I hadn't known and had been unable to reach her, I'd be having a cow.

473 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:26:58pm

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.

Have they invited the North Koreans as well?

474 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:27:09pm

re: #445 Jim in Virginia

Breaking news on Fox- one dead, nine hurt in DC metro train collision. No details yet.

Oh, dear. Is Occasional Reader around here?

475 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:28:13pm

re: #474 Russkilitlover

Oh, dear. Is Occasional Reader around here?

He said goodbye around 5:15, I think. I don't know if he uses the red line.

476 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:28:14pm

re: #469 opnion

Avanti, I don't want to plie on here, but why would Iranian diplomats wander from the party line? They represent the Mullah thugoracy.
If the Social structure in place collapses, the diplomats are in a bad place.

Look, I'm stretching a spin here, I have no idea if it would do any good to uninvite them, or just let them come. Chances are, even if Dinnerjacket ends up losing the election, they'll have the same diplomats.

477 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:28:43pm

Alright, gotta go to bed. But two points I've been trying to articulate all night, but I keep getting derailed by shiny pennies.

Recently, we have become quite bad at being derailed on important threads by squabbling and troll-baiting. Hell, they're baiting us.
Lots of room for legitimate arguing, but when it devolves into pointless debates about issues thrice-removed from whatever it was we were talking about--we're being had.
I suggest a return to observation of the informally-enforced 100 comment rule: Stay on topic for the first hundred comments, even if it means waiting 98 comments to answer some troll, or tedious idiot.
Is the motion seconded?
Also, just an observation about Iran and the US. We seem to be pretty fortunate in that no matter how ham-fisted our approach, the Mullahs are consistently mis-managing their actions even worse. We have so far not seen the good guys lose only because so far, the bad guys have proven themselves not up to the task of winning. Oh, they'll try, but by now, almost no matter how violent they get, the regime will fall. They would require a slave state as controlled as North Korea in order to preserve the regime, unless they get much better at this, and fast.

So far, so good. Godspeed, people of Iran.

478 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:29:33pm

re: #476 avanti

Look, I'm stretching a spin here, I have no idea if it would do any good to uninvite them, or just let them come. Chances are, even if Dinnerjacket ends up losing the election, they'll have the same diplomats.

As usual, you miss the point completely. What kind of a message does it send to the Iranians dying in the streets for freedom if we fete their government leaders?

479 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:29:59pm

re: #477 haakondahl

Where do you live now?

480 debutaunt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:29:59pm

re: #433 jim in virginia

I had a choice of berry or bannaa flavor. Berry flavor chalk still tastes like chalk.

You had a choice of fancy flavors. Mine tasted like salt.

481 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:30:17pm

re: #473 Wendya

Have they invited the North Koreans as well?

Are you trying to give Avanti the tingles?

482 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:30:19pm

re: #477 haakondahl

Double dings! ++

483 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:30:57pm

The stalkers are really worked up into a lather about this psychology piece. I think the irony is lost on them

[Link: defenseman.wordpress.com...]

484 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:30:59pm

re: #478 Russkilitlover

As usual, you miss the point completely. What kind of a message does it send to the Iranians dying in the streets for freedom if we fete their government leaders?

If I may jump in and help, Avanti already answered that question above...

"I have no idea, what if anything they might ask, maybe they'll just pee in the Iranians beer."

485 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:31:06pm

re: #455 Alaska Kim

Yes, about 3 miles from the glacier, off of Mendenhall Loop Road. Did you know where Don Abel's is?

No, sorry. I was out on Mendenhall Loop road for some time, as well. Driving on the south side of the loop, away from the channel, on the left was a large trailer park. On the right, set way back off of the loop, just before the serious trees got into the hills again, was a tiny little green house. That was me.

486 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:32:03pm

re: #485 haakondahl

No, sorry. I was out on Mendenhall Loop road for some time, as well. Driving on the south side of the loop, away from the channel, on the left was a large trailer park. On the right, set way back off of the loop, just before the serious trees got into the hills again, was a tiny little green house. That was me.

You look like "a tiny little green house?"

487 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:33:11pm

re: #481 DEZes

Are you trying to give Avanti the tingles?

Ewwww.....

488 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:33:26pm

re: #476 avanti

Look, I'm stretching a spin here, I have no idea if it would do any good to uninvite them, or just let them come. Chances are, even if Dinnerjacket ends up losing the election, they'll have the same diplomats.

But you know that it is traditional for the U.S government to show displeasure to a government brutalizing it's people.
Obama is showing at best indifference to the plight of the protesters.
He has no problem emarassing his country by condemning & apologising for it.
He loves to talk abiut how we violate our American values. Well here is a chance for him to lead by example, but ya know he ain't that guy.

489 DaddyG  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:33:26pm

Thanks all for the colonoscopy advice and previews. I'm in tears from laughter on the bus. FBV the real hurry is the doc found trace amounts of blood during a thorough exam. Hopefully its not a big deal and I can go back to my normal evacuation routine.

Thanks for asking!

490 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:33:38pm

re: #477 haakondahl

Good points raised there.

About Iran's regime collapsing, what, if anything, is the outcome? Is there any person or group able to step up and operate a different gov't? It'd be sad to see more of the same ,post regime collapse,and I haven't a clue as to what would come next.

491 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:33:58pm

re: #476 avanti

Look, I'm stretching a spin here, I have no idea if it would do any good to uninvite them, or just let them come. Chances are, even if Dinnerjacket ends up losing the election, they'll have the same diplomats.

Then we invite them when he is gone.

492 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:34:21pm

re: #484 Walter L. Newton

If I may jump in and help, Avanti already answered that question above...

"I have no idea, what if anything they might ask, maybe they'll just pee in the Iranians beer."

In other words: Who gives a flying f... about protesters terrorists dying when Obama's got an agenda of dialog to keep?

I wouldn't expect less from an Obama apologist (yeah, avanti, that'd be you).

493 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:34:49pm

re: #471 Walter L. Newton

Well, that was a grand non-answer to my question. And not even clever. You are the one that presented the situation of the diplomats bending each others ear, and I countered, and you have nothing to back up your original supposition? You see Avanti, even when I do try to converse with you in some metered and calm way, you avoid the debate, much the same as you do if someone is yelling at you, arguing with you, rationalizing with you or simply pointing something out to you.

You run away no matter what, using claims that the person who is debating you is being this way or that. For you, a debate is anything you want to talk about, and argument is anything you don't want to talk about, and you call the shots.

Lame.


You asked me a unanswerable question. How would I know what the topic of any discussion will be at a party that won't happen until the 4th ? I could speculate, but I'm neither a diplomat or in the government, so all I can say is there is potential for discussion, but no data on what will be said.

494 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:34:51pm

re: #492 Russkilitlover

In other words: Who gives a flying f... about protesters terrorists dying when Obama's got an agenda of dialog to keep?

I wouldn't expect less from an Obama apologist (yeah, avanti, that'd be you).

Ding, ding, ding...

495 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:35:39pm

re: #489 DaddyG

Thanks all for the colonoscopy advice and previews. I'm in tears from laughter on the bus. FBV the real hurry is the doc found trace amounts of blood during a thorough exam. Hopefully its not a big deal and I can go back to my normal evacuation routine.

Thanks for asking!

Best of luck. With friends like these who need enemas.

496 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:36:15pm
497 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:36:16pm

re: #492 Russkilitlover

In other words: Who gives a flying f... about protesters terrorists dying when Obama's got an agenda of dialog to keep?

I wouldn't expect less from an Obama apologist (yeah, avanti, that'd be you).

Does anybod beside me questio where Obama's sympathies are here?
Or am I just suffering ODS?

498 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:36:23pm

re: #477 haakondahl

Alright, gotta go to bed. But two points I've been trying to articulate all night, but I keep getting derailed by shiny pennies.

Recently, we have become quite bad at being derailed on important threads by squabbling and troll-baiting. Hell, they're baiting us.
Lots of room for legitimate arguing, but when it devolves into pointless debates about issues thrice-removed from whatever it was we were talking about--we're being had.
I suggest a return to observation of the informally-enforced 100 comment rule: Stay on topic for the first hundred comments, even if it means waiting 98 comments to answer some troll, or tedious idiot.
Is the motion seconded?
Also, just an observation about Iran and the US. We seem to be pretty fortunate in that no matter how ham-fisted our approach, the Mullahs are consistently mis-managing their actions even worse. We have so far not seen the good guys lose only because so far, the bad guys have proven themselves not up to the task of winning. Oh, they'll try, but by now, almost no matter how violent they get, the regime will fall. They would require a slave state as controlled as North Korea in order to preserve the regime, unless they get much better at this, and fast.

So far, so good. Godspeed, people of Iran.

Outstanding post! I can't disagree with a word.

499 doppelganglander  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:36:24pm

re: #489 DaddyG

Thanks all for the colonoscopy advice and previews. I'm in tears from laughter on the bus. FBV the real hurry is the doc found trace amounts of blood during a thorough exam. Hopefully its not a big deal and I can go back to my normal evacuation routine.

Thanks for asking!

I hope it turns out to be a lot of fuss over nothing.

500 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:36:32pm

I know its too much to hope for from the current administration and media, but wouldn't it be great if this Fourth of July event that the Iranians are still invited to were to really focus on the heroic efforts of our founding generation in throwing off the yoke of tyranny, establishing a government where the will of the people is heard, complete with essential freedoms, like that of speech and assembly. Absolutely none of it mentioning Iran, but all the while, on live television broadcast on the major networks, shots panning back and forth between the speakers and the Iranian delegation...

501 Rancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:37:38pm

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

I haven't seen you comment on this, maybe you missed it...

The United States said Monday its invitations were still standing for Iranian diplomats to attend July 4 celebrations at US embassies despite the crackdown on opposition supporters.
President Barack Obama’s administration said earlier this month it would invite Iran to US embassy barbecues for the national holiday for the first time since the two nations severed relations following the 1979 Islamic revolution.

“There’s no thought to rescinding the invitations to Iranian diplomats,” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters.

“We have made a strategic decision to engage on a number of fronts with Iran,” Kelly said. “We tried many years of isolation, and we’re pursuing a different path now.”


Interesting position to take considering recent developments in Iran.


There has been talk of another November 4th, (U.S.Embassy seizure), to protest the U.S. meddling in the election crisis. What better way to take over than to be invited in?

502 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:37:46pm

re: #493 avanti

You asked me a unanswerable question. How would I know what the topic of any discussion will be at a party that won't happen until the 4th ? I could speculate, but I'm neither a diplomat or in the government, so all I can say is there is potential for discussion, but no data on what will be said.

The point is that the Iranian diplomats should not be at the party.
They should be disinvited.

503 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:38:23pm

re: #487 Wendya

Ewwww.....

Got brain bleach?

504 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:38:49pm

re: #493 avanti

You asked me a unanswerable question. How would I know what the topic of any discussion will be at a party that won't happen until the 4th ? I could speculate, but I'm neither a diplomat or in the government, so all I can say is there is potential for discussion, but no data on what will be said.

Well Ranger, you brought it up, not me. It was fair game when you said they would be "bending the diplomats ears." You opined a scenario that you could in no way use as a basis to your comment, and then blame me for asking you to clarify.

Like I said, lame. You have spun yourself into a corner, and the only way out is admitting that your original comment was undefensible.

Don't blame me.

505 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:03pm

Invite Neda's family.

506 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:23pm

Good to see 0bama dealing more forcefully with Rush Limbaugh and FOX news than he is the Mullahs and Norks....

507 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:25pm

re: #497 opnion


Just remember, it's Obama DISGUST Syndrome, not Derangement. Big difference, and not to be confused with BDS in any way.

508 Lincolntf  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:42pm

Interesting how the Iranian citizens decided to clench their fists the moment they heard that we were unclenching ours. It might be now or never for this generation.

509 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:45pm

re: #496 Iron Fist

Well, I am thoroughly deprerssed. I ordered a pait of Hogue dragonscale grip for a Para Ordanance P-14. I have (and we must never speak of this again :-) a Dan Wesson HC-Pointman, which is basically a P-14 made to Dan Wesson levels of quality. Aparently not grip size, though. The grips are georgous, as you would expect, but they don't fit. I'll let everyone know how Hogue deals with it.

Wah :'(

I hate when that happens :) I had the same problem with a pair of ballet shoes that I ordered. When they came, the size...
///

510 Racer X  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:39:48pm

Dinnerjacket denies the holocaust. Dinnerjacket wants to wipe Israel off the map. Dinnerjacket is now in big trouble at home. Why would we not provide assistance to those who could oust him?

What if we could have done the same to Hitler?

511 latingent  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:40:42pm

Iron Fist, Hogue is an excellent company and have had many dealings with them after 17 years in this business. They will take care of you.

512 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:40:52pm

re: #505 Sharmuta

Invite Neda's family.

Amen to that.

513 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:01pm

re: #507 irongrampa

Just remember, it's Obama DISGUST Syndrome, not Derangement. Big difference, and not to be confused with BDS in any way.


Well I'm better now, I must say the BHO does disgust me.

514 pingjockey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:05pm

Any fucking Iranian diplomats should be tossed out of the country. Why in hell do we have Iranian diplomats here after an act of war in 1979?

515 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:08pm

re: #478 Russkilitlover

As usual, you miss the point completely. What kind of a message does it send to the Iranians dying in the streets for freedom if we fete their government leaders?

IMHO, it's intended to send a message that The One is "above the fray"- because his primary objective is to appear to be 'right' no matter how this ends.

If the regime' falls, he'll claim that his 'studied' response kept the mullahs from using "American meddling" as a tool to rally support to crush the uprising.

If the mullahs succeed in crushing same, he'll say that it's a good thing Iran is once more "at peace" under its "duly-elected government".

The two things you have to remember about our present President are that first, he wants to appear to be "non-confrontational" toward people who don't like us, saving his ire for our friends he personally has a problem with (like Israel), and second, that he believes in "dialogue at all costs", as long as it doesn't cost him anything personally.

What he totally fails to understand is that he is no longer just a "community organizer", or a state representative, or a Senator. He's the President of the United States, and everything he does he does in our name.

Which means that it's our credibility he's blowing out of the water when he pulls a Neville Chamberlain. Although honestly, I'm not sure that he'd care even if he did grasp the concept.

Because that would require him to deal with the concept that- it's not all about him.

cheers

eon

516 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:09pm

re: #478 Russkilitlover

As usual, you miss the point completely. What kind of a message does it send to the Iranians dying in the streets for freedom if we fete their government leaders?

That is a good point, and one I might even lean toward. I assume the issue was discussed and a decision was made for reasons unknown to us. It's not uncommon to treat diplomats of oppressive countries with more tact then we would their leaders.

517 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:25pm

re: #510 Racer X

Dinnerjacket denies the holocaust. Dinnerjacket wants to wipe Israel off the map. Dinnerjacket is now in big trouble at home. Why would we not provide assistance to those who could oust him?

What if we could have done the same to Hitler?

We could of, we didn't. We knew what was going on before and during the war. You know what happened because of it.

518 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:39pm

re: #497 opnion

Does anybod beside me questio where Obama's sympathies are here?
Or am I just suffering ODS?

No, I don't think it's ODS. I question his sympathies as well as his judgement.

519 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:41:57pm

re: #497 opnion

Does anybod beside me questio where Obama's sympathies are here?
Or am I just suffering ODS?

That's the million dollar question for me too. I run through this cycle of thought....

Monday - He's in over his head and clueless.
Tuesday - He wants to be all things to most people and in the end will be not much to anyone
Wednesday - He's an elitist. No real ideology as long as he's in power
Thursday - He's a far leftist

Repeat ad nauseum....

Did I leave any out?

520 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:42:06pm

At the end of the day, can we retire the phrase, " At end of the day"? Someone just used it again on PMSNBC.

521 Racer X  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:42:07pm

Didn't Obama initially take credit for the uprising in Iran by referencing his Cairo speech?

522 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:42:46pm

re: #479 Alaska Kim

Where do you live now?

Huh. My home of residence is New Mexico, I've always wanted to get back to Alaska just to see, although I live in Japan now, and am currently in Afghanistan. Which is a lot like New Mexico.

523 Kragar  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:42:59pm

re: #483 Sharmuta

There time would be better served learning proper yoga safety techniques.

524 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:43:12pm
525 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:43:15pm

re: #505 Sharmuta

Invite Neda's family.

Just make sure they all get asylum in the US afterwords...

526 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:43:23pm

re: #521 Racer X

No, but some of the lefties have floated the idea.

527 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:43:37pm

re: #520 BatGuano

At the end of the day, I think we can say that phrase hsa outlived it's usefulness.

At the end of the day.

528 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:43:42pm

re: #516 avanti

That is a good point, and one I might even lean toward. I assume the issue was discussed and a decision was made for reasons unknown to us. It's not uncommon to treat diplomats of oppressive countries with more tact then we would their leaders.

I swear Avanti if these diplomats get gifts of Chia Obamas & little Statue of Liberties in burquas, I will be pissed.

529 Rancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:44:13pm

I might have misread the embassy post. I was thinking inviting them to the Tehran Embassy for BBQ, but do we even have an Embassy in Iran?

530 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:44:36pm

re: #483 Sharmuta

The stalkers are really worked up into a lather about this psychology piece. I think the irony is lost on them

[Link: defenseman.wordpress.com...]

oh sweet irony!

"We aren't obsessed with LGF. We just spend most of our free time bitching about it. We also go to every blog we can find that says something good-to-neutral about LGF or 'Chuckles' and then proceed to spam the hell out of them with a litany of complaints..."

531 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:44:40pm

re: #523 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Truly deranged people.

532 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:44:53pm

re: #529 Rancher

Nope- the Swiss more or less act as a go-between.

533 pingjockey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:45:05pm

re: #529 Rancher
Not only no. but fuck no! IIRC, it is a IRG barracks.

534 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:45:10pm

re: #502 opnion

The point is that the Iranian diplomats should not be at the party.
They should be disinvited.

That would require something that O simply doesn't have. Not gonna happen.

535 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:45:34pm

re: #519 Pianobuff

That's the million dollar question for me too. I run through this cycle of thought....

Monday - He's in over his head and clueless.
Tuesday - He wants to be all things to most people and in the end will be not much to anyone
Wednesday - He's an elitist. No real ideology as long as he's in power
Thursday - He's a far leftist

Repeat ad nauseum....

Did I leave any out?

He has said some concilliatory things about the Regime.
If he has called the protesters "Freedom Fighters" or anything like that I have missed it.

536 Racer X  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:46:34pm

re: #526 Killgore Trout

No, but some of the lefties have floated the idea.

Interesting.

So if it was OK for Obama to take credit for it then, why did he suddenly go silent went things got violent?

And really, is the uprising in Iran due to Obama's Cairo speech (like he claimed it was)? Or is it more a result of Iranians looking at the new democracy right next door in Iraq?

537 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:47:01pm

re: #492 Russkilitlover

In other words: Who gives a flying f... about protesters terrorists dying when Obama's got an agenda of dialog to keep?

I wouldn't expect less from an Obama apologist (yeah, avanti, that'd be you).

Basically, we're now so intent on keeping our doomed date with the brutal Mullahs for unclenching and handshaking, negotiating and denuclearizing, that it looks like we're starring in The Crying Game, and will marry that girl even if she does have a dick.
Kinda forgot what we came for.

538 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:47:09pm

re: #534 MacDuff

That would require something that O simply doesn't have. Not gonna happen.

You can say it, we all know what it is anyway. ;)
Obama has no spine, no balls and no respect for anyone past his upturned nose.

539 avanti  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:47:22pm

re: #528 opnion

I swear Avanti if these diplomats get gifts of Chia Obamas & little Statue of Liberties in burquas, I will be pissed.

Subscriptions to Hustler.

540 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:47:29pm

re: #530 ArchangelMichael

oh sweet irony!

"We aren't obsessed with LGF. We just spend most of our free time bitching about it. We also go to every blog we can find that says something good-to-neutral about LGF or 'Chuckles' and then proceed to spam the hell out of them with a litany of complaints..."

I really don't think they see how they're proving the point.

541 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:48:20pm

re: #539 avanti

Subscriptions to Hustler.

Now that would have some panache.

542 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:48:29pm

re: #535 opnion

He has said some concilliatory things about the Regime.
If he has called the protesters "Freedom Fighters" or anything like that I have missed it.

If you get a chance, read Hitchen's Slate article posted above as well as in the links. He interprets Obama's mentions of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader as non-neutral statements iirc.

543 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:48:55pm

re: #529 Rancher

I might have misread the embassy post. I was thinking inviting them to the Tehran Embassy for BBQ, but do we even have an Embassy in Iran?

No, it's about embassies in other countries.

544 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:50:05pm

re: #536 Racer X

Obama hasn't claimed it was because of his speech.

545 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:50:11pm

re: #505 Sharmuta

Invite Neda's family.

That might be difficult since we no longer have an embassy in Iran.

546 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:50:11pm

re: #541 opnion

Now that would have some panache.

The mullahs heads would explode.

547 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:50:16pm

re: #521 Racer X

Didn't Obama initially take credit for the uprising in Iran by referencing his Cairo speech?

Oh, you mean the flaccid collection of words that he finally made on Saturday that, by the way, did not even contain the words FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY? (Yes, I'm still pissed about that).

No he didn't take credit, Here it is:

The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.

As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it mustrespect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.

Martin Luther King once said - “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples’ belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.

548 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:51:24pm

re: #542 Pianobuff

If you get a chance, read Hitchen's Slate article posted above as well as in the links. He interprets Obama's mentions of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader as non-neutral statements iirc.

I did read some quotes & I have to say that I think that Hitchens is right.
BHO sounds like he is looking forward to negotiating with the Regime & this popular uprising might get in the way.
It seems like he likes the Mullahs.

549 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:51:29pm

re: #522 haakondahl

Huh. My home of residence is New Mexico, I've always wanted to get
back to Alaska just to see, although I live in Japan now, and am
currently in Afghanistan. Which is a lot like New Mexico.

Wow. The closest I've been to Japan is watching Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations.
Do you like it there? THat man people would make me crazy! I'm quite sheltered here in Alaska.

550 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:51:56pm

re: #541 opnion

Now that would have some panache.

On a side note....

Hustler Kingpin Larry Flynt Rushed to Hospital

551 Alaska Kim  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:09pm

oops.... that "many"

552 pingjockey  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:10pm

BBL

553 opnion  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:18pm

re: #546 DEZes

The mullahs heads would explode.

Yeah, but a magazine about attractive goats would be up their alley.

554 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:19pm

re: #490 irongrampa

Good points raised there.

About Iran's regime collapsing, what, if anything, is the outcome? Is there any person or group able to step up and operate a different gov't? It'd be sad to see more of the same ,post regime collapse,and I haven't a clue as to what would come next.

Well, I don't see a Jeffersonian or even Hamiltonian Democracy emerging there in the near term, which is fine. Incremental improvement will probably have to suffice--things which are slow to build momentum usually are difficult to stop. Breaking the stuck bits free in the beginning is the critical piece. And so far it's going as well as can be expected. Better than we had any right to hope as of a week ago.
A post-Khameini Council, a post-Council parliamentary system (with several religious parties)--these are the Big Wins up for grabs, as far as I can figure, in the next decade.
Starting now.

555 Bloodnok  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:21pm

re: #483 Sharmuta

The stalkers are really worked up into a lather about this psychology piece. I think the irony is lost on them

[Link: defenseman.wordpress.com...]

Wheeeeee!

556 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:52:29pm
557 Rancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:53:20pm

re: #542 Pianobuff

re: #535 opnion


If you get a chance, read Hitchen's Slate article posted above as well as in the links. He interprets Obama's mentions of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader as non-neutral statements iirc.


He did say this Friday in a CBS TV interview:

What you're seeing in Iran are hundreds of thousands of people who believe their voices were not heard and who are peacefully protesting and--and seeking justice. And the world is watching. And we stand behind those who are seeking justice in a peaceful way. And, you know, already we've seen violence out there. I think I've said this throughout the week. I want to repeat it that we stand with those who would look to peaceful resolution of conflict, and we believe that the voices of people have to be heard, that that's a universal value that the American people stand for and this administration stands for.
But the last point I want to make on this--this is not an issue of the United States or the West versus Iran. This is an issue of the Iranian people. The fact that they are on the streets under pretty severe duress, at great risk to themselves, is a sign that there's something in that society that wants to open up.

But CBS cut those two paragraphs out of their coverage.

558 Racer X  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:53:35pm

re: #544 Killgore Trout

Obama hasn't claimed it was because of his speech.

I thought there was a discussion going on here a week or so ago and the topic was Obama and his Cairo speech influencing the Iranian dissent. I guess I was wrong.

I keep going back and forth on Obama making a more forceful statement on the government in Iran. I'm back on the "assist in kicking their asses out" thought.

559 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:53:46pm

re: #555 Bloodnok

Serious meltdowns over there. Aren't they entertaining?

560 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:54:03pm

re: #540 Sharmuta

Can't understand that. I read and post on some blogs that pound on this one, and have no problem separating the sane points I see from the garbage.

If I disagree with something here, the disagreement is vented HERE. I don't get upset .If you're going to say something derogatory about a blog, say it ON said blog,and accept the consequences. Pretty simple concept, imho.

561 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:54:03pm
562 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:54:18pm

re: #529 Rancher

I might have misread the embassy post. I was thinking inviting them to the Tehran Embassy for BBQ, but do we even have an Embassy in Iran?

We did, I attended the 4th of July celebrations there a number of years.
There is a US Interest Section in the Swiss Embassy IIRC.

563 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:55:38pm

re: #560 irongrampa

I don't think they know how to accept the consequences.

564 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:56:04pm

re: #550 Pianobuff

On a side note....

Hustler Kingpin Larry Flynt Rushed to Hospital

Buh. Bye.

565 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:56:04pm

re: #559 Sharmuta

Serious meltdowns over there. Aren't they entertaining?

Explain something to me. Why would anyone here, on LGF, worry about what someone is saying about them on another blog? I will have to admit, I have seen some Lizards as obsessed with arguing with the stalkers as the stalkers are obsessed with trashing Charles, LGF and Lizards.

It seems to be a vicious circle for some, and it doesn't appear healthy coming from either side?

566 Bloodnok  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:56:37pm

re: #559 Sharmuta

Serious meltdowns over there. Aren't they entertaining?

You could start a website with just a blank screen and a small, green football with the word BOO.

That's it.

And within a week you'd have 50 angry rants.

567 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:57:35pm
568 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:57:40pm

re: #557 Rancher

But CBS cut those two paragraphs out of their coverage.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

If anything, instead of the media arguing over the efficacy of neutrality I'd like to see the talking heads start trumpeting that now Obama has taken the side of the protesters. Make him own the statements even if they are not as strongly stated as some of us would like.... what's he going to do at this point, deny it?

569 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:57:57pm

re: #558 Racer X

I thought there was a discussion going on here a week or so ago and the topic was Obama and his Cairo speech influencing the Iranian dissent. I guess I was wrong.

.

The President hasn't made the claim directly but his myrmidons have been trotting out that meme for the last week.

570 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:58:24pm
571 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:58:32pm

re: #554 haakondahl

Yeah, NO gov't is likely to bear much resemblance to our form even under the best of times. My worry is that another such as the present would emerge under a different facade. As you said, baby steps--and we should help them in whatever way we can.

572 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:59:59pm

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

I can't speak for everyone who has ever gone over to another site and defended LGF, but I've done so a few times (like at Panda's Thumb) because I think LGF is worth defending.

573 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:00:24pm

re: #563 Sharmuta

I don't think they know how to accept the consequences.

That was a romp, insanity must be in vogue.

574 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:00:37pm

Night all. Sorry for walking away from a couple of conversations. Gotsta go.

575 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:00:42pm

re: #569 Wendya

The President hasn't made the claim directly but his myrmidons have been trotting out that meme for the last week.

Earth to Barack - this moment in history is bigger than you.... keep that in mind please.

576 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:02:00pm

re: #572 Sharmuta

I can't speak for everyone who has ever gone over to another site and defended LGF, but I've done so a few times (like at Panda's Thumb) because I think LGF is worth defending.

And so are you.....
Hope today finds you well

577 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:02:35pm

Hi, {Hoops}

578 UncleRancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:02:55pm

re: #549 Alaska Kim

Wow. The closest I've been to Japan is watching Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations.
Do you like it there? THat man(y) people would make me crazy! I'm quite sheltered here in Alaska.


Yup. Been there, and you're right... Interesting place, tho.

579 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:03:31pm

re: #572 Sharmuta

I can't speak for everyone who has ever gone over to another site and defended LGF, but I've done so a few times (like at Panda's Thumb) because I think LGF is worth defending.

And I have myself, on occasion, and recently when HH mentioned something that I felt needed to be addressed on another blog.

But, I am talking about the continuous bickering that I see coming from coming from some Lizards on other blogs.

It is obsessive and unhealthy as what the stalkers themselves portray.

580 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:04:59pm

re: #569 Wendya

The President hasn't made the claim directly but his myrmidons have been trotting out that meme for the last week.

"Obviously after the speech that I made in Cairo, we tried to send a clear message that we think there's the possibility of change, and you know ultimately the election is for the Iranians to decide. But just as has been true in Lebanon, what can be true in Iran as well is that you're seeing people looking at new possibilities."

Obama, June 12th.

581 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:06:09pm

re: #580 jcm

"Obviously after the speech that I made in Cairo, we tried to send a clear message that we think there's the possibility of change, and you know ultimately the election is for the Iranians to decide. But just as has been true in Lebanon, what can be true in Iran as well is that you're seeing people looking at new possibilities."

Obama, June 12th.

Makes you wonder if POTUS doesn't realize the JibJab video is satire.....

582 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:06:45pm

re: #565 Walter L. Newton

Explain something to me. Why would anyone here, on LGF, worry about what someone is saying about them on another blog? I will have to admit, I have seen some Lizards as obsessed with arguing with the stalkers as the stalkers are obsessed with trashing Charles, LGF and Lizards.

It seems to be a vicious circle for some, and it doesn't appear healthy coming from either side?

Ya know Walter, sometimes I've been guilty of getting into these pissing matches myself here on these threads. You're right, it gets to be an obsession that wastes far too much time and energy. This should be an intellectual pursuit, not bloodsport.

You oft give me, and all of us some unexpected wisdom and perspective. Thanks for doing so this evening. Cheers.

583 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:06:51pm

re: #579 Walter L. Newton

Hi Walter! Hope you are well...

584 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:06:56pm
585 Irish Rose  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:07:17pm

Good afternoon/evening lizardom.
What's for dinner?

586 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:08:08pm

re: #579 Walter L. Newton

And I can't speak to the motivation of others other than I think they think LGF is worth defending. If there's more to it, I don't know.

587 jim in virginia  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:08:39pm

Ok, I know it's local news but incredible picture- of DC Metor accident. One metro car is wedged under another. Two dead, 100 injured. FBI is on the scene "to assist- no indication of criminal activity."

588 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:08:44pm

re: #584 Iron Fist

Obama is a piece of shit. Anyone claiming otherwise better be putting out some proof, because I haven't seen any.

You didnt think I was gonna argue did you?
;)

589 BatGuano  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:08:48pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

We're all going to Harry's Hofbrau!

590 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:08:58pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

Good afternoon/evening lizardom.
What's for dinner?

BEEF!

591 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:09:11pm

re: #583 HoosierHoops

Hi Walter! Hope you are well...

Yes I am. Going to my girlfriends in a while. Eighty-seven degrees here right now, will be in the cool 40 tonight, up in the mountains.

Golden is in the base of the foothills of the Rockies, my girlfriend lives above 7500 feet, in the Rockies.

592 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:10:01pm

From Politico (Ben Smith):

The fact that President Obama had good Pakistani friends at Columbia in college was one that was basically kept out of his campaign on the theory that anything with any connection to Islam would feed a viral rumor the campaign was trying to kill.

Now, though, it's another useful diplomatic tool, as in his interview with Dawn this weekend:

‘Any plan to visit Pakistan in the near future?’

‘I would love to visit. As you know, I had Pakistani roommates in college who were very close friends of mine. I went to visit them when I was still in college; was in Karachi and went to Hyderabad. Their mothers taught me to cook,’ said Mr Obama.

‘What can you cook?’

‘Oh, keema … daal … You name it, I can cook it. And so I have a great affinity for Pakistani culture and the great Urdu poets.’

‘You read Urdu poetry?’

‘Absolutely. So my hope is that I’m going to have an opportunity at some point to visit Pakistan,’ said Mr Obama.

593 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:10:43pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

Red meat and fire!

594 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:10:52pm

re: #568 Pianobuff

Thanks for reminding me of that.

If anything, instead of the media arguing over the efficacy of neutrality I'd like to see the talking heads start trumpeting that now Obama has taken the side of the protesters. Make him own the statements even if they are not as strongly stated as some of us would like.... what's he going to do at this point, deny it?

Don't forget, you're dealing with a Master of the Secret "That Statement Is No Longer Operative" Defense in the Endless Chess Game known as "diplomacy".

(Which is sometimes hard to tell from a con man trying to fast-talk his way out of a jam he fast-talked his way into to begin with.)

/No, I don't have ODS- but he is beginning to irritate me.

cheers

eon

595 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:11:19pm
596 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:11:24pm

re: #584 Iron Fist

Obama is a piece of shit. Anyone claiming otherwise better be putting out some proof, because I haven't seen any.

POS works for me!

597 UncleRancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:11:39pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

Good afternoon/evening lizardom.
What's for dinner?

Boneless ribs with Longhorn BBQ sauce, corn on the cob, sweet mashed potatoes and dumplin's, fresh buttered asparagus with a touch of salt and peaches and whipped cream for desert.

598 jcm  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:11:47pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

Good afternoon/evening lizardom.
What's for dinner?

Got some hammerized troll from a thread back on the back of grill stayin' warm.

599 Aye Pod  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:12:15pm

re: #572 Sharmuta

I can't speak for everyone who has ever gone over to another site and defended LGF, but I've done so a few times (like at Panda's Thumb) because I think LGF is worth defending.

Remember Sharm if you ever notice your stalker, and turn around to give it a piece of your mind, you become...the REAL STALKER! According to LGF2 logic that is.

600 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:12:41pm
601 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:12:43pm
602 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:12:54pm

re: #597 UncleRancher

Boneless ribs with Longhorn BBQ sauce, corn on the cob, sweet mashed potatoes and dumplin's, fresh buttered asparagus with a touch of salt and peaches and whipped cream for desert.

Wow. Living large tonight... you're making me hungry.

603 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:13:26pm

Aaaargh! Why is it that no matter what MSM site I got to, 'tops stories' about Jon & Kate are in the sidebar....

If November 4, 2008 wasn't proof positive of the dumbing-down of America, all this celeb and reality show obesessing is....

604 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:14:12pm

You know that crazy bitch, Medea Benjamin? She's a berkley tree sitter, or PETA loonie.

The name Medea is after an evil Goddess of Greek mythology.

I never knew that.

605 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:14:16pm

re: #585 Irish Rose

Good afternoon/evening lizardom.
What's for dinner?

We just enjoyed chicken soup, corn-on-the-cob, fresh salad and Israeli Fried Chicken*

*Recipe to appear in LGF Cookbook II.

606 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:14:20pm

re: #601 buzzsawmonkey

He has amazing lentil powers!

As far as the Urdu poetry thing...I thought that during the campaign Obama admitted to not knowing any foreign language?

Obama has the gift of tongues. Every messiah has it.

607 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:14:28pm

re: #592 Pianobuff

Dal (Daal, Dahl) is really good. In fact, I'm having Dal and lamb curry for dinner this week. I don't know why they don't serve it much at Indian restaurants here in the states.

608 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:15:27pm
609 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:15:51pm
610 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:15:58pm

re: #595 Iron Fist

I also have a set of grips on order from Esmerelda. They have a Celtic Cross/Iron Cross motif, in coca bola. Some people might bitch, but some people would bitch if you hung them with a golden rope.

Coca bolo, very nice blood red iron wood, its also somewhat toxic. (use a respirator if you ever work with it)
Hope you get the other grips ironed out. ;)

611 irongrampa  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:16:12pm

re: #600 Iron Fist

May have to get in touch with these people, got an old Single Six Ruger that would look good with a pair of those grips. The M-1911 will live with gov't issue.

612 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:16:15pm
The fourth issue that I will address is democracy. (Applause.)

I know -- I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.

That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people. Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election. But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. These are not just American ideas; they are human rights. And that is why we will support them everywhere. (Applause.)

Now, there is no straight line to realize this promise. But this much is clear: Governments that protect these rights are ultimately more stable, successful and secure. Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them. And we will welcome all elected, peaceful governments -- provided they govern with respect for all their people.

This last point is important because there are some who advocate for democracy only when they're out of power; once in power, they are ruthless in suppressing the rights of others. (Applause.) So no matter where it takes hold, government of the people and by the people sets a single standard for all who would hold power: You must maintain your power through consent, not coercion; you must respect the rights of minorities, and participate with a spirit of tolerance and compromise; you must place the interests of your people and the legitimate workings of the political process above your party. Without these ingredients, elections alone do not make true democracy.

Obama, June 4, 2009.

613 MacDuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:16:30pm

re: #608 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know about the gift of tongues, but he certainly has the gift of an ongoing media tongue-bath.

Thanks a lot for THAT mental picture!

614 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:16:32pm

re: #604 whiterasta

You know that crazy bitch, Medea Benjamin? She's a berkley tree sitter, or PETA loonie.

The name Medea is after an evil Goddess of Greek mythology.

I never knew that.

Her real name is Susan, she changed it. I don't know why, probably to piss off her parents.

615 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:17:18pm
616 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:17:19pm

re: #606 Walter L. Newton

Obama has the gift of tongues. Every messiah has it.

He speaks with forked tongue.

617 Sharmuta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:17:47pm

re: #612 wrenchwench

So the Cairo speech is under the bus?

618 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:17:47pm

re: #614 Alouette

She is still 14 years old. Still trying to piss off Daddy.

619 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:18:49pm

re: #615 buzzsawmonkey

Wow! The things I learn here! Thanks.

620 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:19:02pm

re: #617 Sharmuta

So the Cairo speech is under the bus?

Did you feel the bump? Only words.....

621 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:19:14pm

re: #618 whiterasta

She is still 14 years old. Still trying to piss off Daddy.

My guess is that Daddy is a Joo.

622 Irish Rose  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:19:15pm

I'm having hamburger helper, I love hamburger helper!
Anyone? There's plenty to go around.

Best take some before my teenager eats all of it.

623 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:19:28pm

re: #609 Iron Fist

I never did it because it never seemed worth doing. I stalked my stalkers a little, just to see who was watching me that obsessively, but after that I just didn't care. I'm sorry if that hurts their feelings and shit, but I have a real life...

That's the point I was trying to make. When you become so obsessed with the other person, you have become them.

I've had tiffs with Robert Spencer, and I know he has brought my name and our disagreements from here (LGF) to his blog (and it has passed on from there, clip and paste, clip and paste).

But I don't spend any time trying to chase down the comments that have jumped inter-blog, all around the internet, in an effort to defend or deny them.

That would be sick. But, I do see people doing that. Not healthy.

624 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:20:19pm

re: #615 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, Medea wasn't a goddess; she was the witch-daughter of King Aeetes of Colchis, keeper of the Golden Fleece. Medea fell in love with Jason, leader of the Argonauts, who sailed to Colchis to steal the Fleece; having helped him steal it, she fled with him. He later married her, but when his love faded she killed her two children and fled.

She not only killed her own children, but cooked them and served them to her ex-husband.

625 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:20:19pm
626 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:20:28pm

re: #621 Alouette

Too bad Daddy never cut her loose from the Trust Fund and made her go get a real job.

627 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:20:40pm

re: #614 Alouette

Her real name is Susan, she changed it. I don't know why, probably to piss off her parents.

If she wanted to piss off her parents, the name change would be the least of their worries.
She has to be the poster child for abstinence.

628 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:20:50pm

re: #624 Alouette

She not only killed her own children, but cooked them and served them to her ex-husband.

All In The Family.

629 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:21:23pm

re: #627 DEZes

If she wanted to piss off her parents, the name change would be the least of their worries.
She has to be the poster child for abstinence.

Abstinence of what, name changing?

630 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:21:39pm
631 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:22:00pm

re: #622 Irish Rose

I'm having hamburger helper, I love hamburger helper!
Anyone? There's plenty to go around.

Best take some before my teenager eats all of it.

And this is especially for you!

632 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:22:11pm

Hi group! Hope things are well here. House is quiet as the family left last night. I really don't like it quiet - I can't wait for next week when the girls move down here. Right up to the point the oldest goes to college in August!

633 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:23:08pm
634 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:23:09pm

re: #629 Walter L. Newton

Abstinence of what, name changing?

SEX!
there you made me say it. ;)

635 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:24:17pm
636 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:24:36pm

She's a poster-child for voluntary sterilization.

637 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:24:46pm

re: #630 buzzsawmonkey

Sure is more interesting than Susan, now isn't it? (she needs help)

638 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:25:48pm
639 Aye Pod  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:26:10pm

re: #609 Iron Fist

I never did it because it never seemed worth doing. I stalked my stalkers a little, just to see who was watching me that obsessively, but after that I just didn't care. I'm sorry if that hurts their feelings and shit, but I have a real life...

I think lack of attention is what they hate most. I wouldn't blame anyone for giving them a good virtual punch in the face from time to time though, though I would always advise against posting on the stalker blogs themselves.

640 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:26:24pm

re: #635 Iron Fist

Abstinance? Hell, sometimes our enemies make their point too well. Medea Benjimin is the poster child for why abortion should be legal. I'll just shut up on what trimester outght to be fair game...

I've never seen her before... I just went and Googled a few pictures... hmmm... kind of cute, in a Cindy Sheehan sort of way :)

641 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:27:12pm

ixsnay on the quiet here. We currently have the running of the Chihuahua 5000 in a loop around the den.

642 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:27:29pm

re: #640 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen her before... I just went and Googled a few pictures... hmmm... kind of cute, in a Cindy Sheehan sort of way :)

She is as vile as they come, the top of the code pink food chain.

643 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:27:58pm

re: #615 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, Medea wasn't a goddess; she was the witch-daughter of King Aeetes of Colchis, keeper of the Golden Fleece. Medea fell in love with Jason, leader of the Argonauts, who sailed to Colchis to steal the Fleece; having helped him steal it, she fled with him. He later married her, but when his love faded she killed her two children and fled.

Dude How do you know that?
I can see your brain from here....

644 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:11pm

re: #640 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen her before... I just went and Googled a few pictures... hmmm... kind of cute, in a Cindy Sheehan sort of way :)

Of course, I was being sarcastic, you know?

645 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:32pm

re: #640 Walter L. Newton

She screams "Chlamydia Infected, Dirty Hippie Chick" at me.

646 NY Nana  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:45pm

re: #604 whiterasta

You mean this Medea Benjamin?

647 JustABill  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:52pm

re: #635 Iron Fist

Abstinance? Hell, sometimes our enemies make their point too well. Medea Benjimin is the poster child for why abortion should be legal. I'll just shut up on what trimester outght to be fair game...

lets see, I did someone say she's 14? So a 9 month pregnancy would be divided into 3 trimesters, would be 3 months per trimester so 4 trimesters per year, times 14 is 56 plus the three in the womb would be 59, and since she might be closer to 15 we'll add another 4 trimesters to be safe. So were looking at between the 59th and 63 trimester...

648 Irish Rose  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:54pm

re: #639 Jimmah

I think lack of attention is what they hate most. I wouldn't blame anyone for giving them a good virtual punch in the face from time to time though, though I would always advise against posting on the stalker blogs themselves.

I wouldn't post on those vile sites if I were paid to do so.

649 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:58pm

re: #644 Walter L. Newton

Of course, I was being sarcastic, you know?

You had me worried for a second or two. ;)

650 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:28:58pm

re: #612 wrenchwench

The last point is important because there are some who advocate for democracy only when they're out of power; once in power, they are ruthless in suppressing the rights of others.

Yes, like the majority of "progressives", especially here in the U.S.

You must maintain your power through consent, not coercion;

Tell that to the bondholders, etc., of GM and Chrysler.

you must place the interests of your people and the legitimate workings of the political process above your party.

Tell that to ACORN.

I didn't watch the speech. Was his nose growing when he recited all this?

cheers

eon

651 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:29:38pm

re: #645 whiterasta

she is my MIL?

I may need to borrow a get out of hell free card...

652 whiterasta  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:30:26pm

re: #646 NY Nana

Yes. That hideous woman.

653 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:30:30pm

re: #622 Irish Rose

I'm having hamburger helper, I love hamburger helper!
Anyone? There's plenty to go around.

Best take some before my teenager eats all of it.

Here's another one for you (rated PG):

654 ArmyWife  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:30:51pm
A former economist and nutritionist with the United Nations and World Health Organization,

Says all we need to know, doesn't it?

655 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:31:16pm
656 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:31:37pm

re: #641 ArmyWife

ixsnay on the quiet here. We currently have the running of the Chihuahua 5000 in a loop around the den.

Hey you! Poor little Winston didn't enjoy the plane flight to the Cabin or Back...
I got him some Moo Goo Gai Pan the other day cause he will kill for Chinese food..
Poor Baby was laying on the Bathroom floor when I came home for lunch today sicker than a 'Dog'.
He may either swear off Chinese or Airplanes....He won't tell me which one..

657 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:32:01pm
658 Aye Pod  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:32:10pm

re: #648 Irish Rose

I wouldn't post on those vile sites if I were paid to do so.

Yep - they're unpostable.

659 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:33:35pm

re: #657 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, I come from distant Colchis, with a Gold Fleece on my knee
I fed my husband Jason the rest of his family
I'm Medea, don't look cross-eyed at me
Or I'll make you the center of your own Greek tragedy

--to the tune of "Oh, Susannah"

You have to be a blast at parties.

660 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:34:35pm

re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Movie News

Sam Worthington (Marcus from Terminator Salvation) will be Perseus in the remake of "Clash of the Titans"

Additional Cast:
Liam Neeson, Ralph Fiennes

They can't remake Clash of the Titans. I show it to my kids when we do the Greek mythology unit. It doubles as a history lesson--they learn what special effects were like when their teacher was a little girl, and rocks were soft and runny.

661 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:34:36pm

re: #656 HoosierHoops

He will deny that the chinese food was a problem, and will now promptly swear of airplanes.

/What? A dog give up his favorite food?

662 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:35:03pm
663 Clubsec  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:35:18pm

Let's be clear on this whole who is to blame when when did it commense.
Allow me to suggest, Janurary 30th, 2007 that is the date of effect when the Democrat Party took control of BOTH houses of Congress. Right?
They have been complete control of the economy since that time.
Remember 'The President proposes, the Congress disposes.'
Bush ('i lost my veto pen') didn't spend one friggin' dime without congressional approval.
The rise and rate of the govenrnmental intervention has accelerated from that date forward. Thanks to ObamUH we are now in OVERDRIVE.

Who ran congress when they RETROACTIVELY enacted a tax increase?

Let everyone be reminded that the Bush tax cuts are going to EXPIRE next year and be retroactively effective to THIS YEAR. Get it?

As ObamUH said to his Hollywack cronies: "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"

And ABC is going to broadcast 'news' from the White House for cryin' out loud! (aka GE) ... and the rest of the FMSM (sans Fox perhaps) is filled with envy and jealousy. A safe bet is that either C B.S. or NBC (Natural BArry Communiator) is working a deal or two for sweeps week.

OK I'm done ... gonna look for some scotch.

664 UncleRancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #651 ArmyWife

she is my MIL?

I may need to borrow a get out of hell free card...

I'm using that.

665 eon  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:36:16pm

Well, I'm off for the evening. Going to set the movie selector on "Horror" and "Shuffle" (i.e., grab one, stick it in, sit down and watch).

Good night, Lizards.

Pleasant dreams.

cheers

eon

666 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:36:37pm
667 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:37:24pm
668 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:37:33pm

re: #421 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Had Kidneystones once. I pity almost anyone who gets them.

Once ended up in the ER with what turned out to be a wicked and neglected kidney infection. Nearly passing out from the pain, mind you, but I kept getting triaged back. There was an old man who'd been hit in the head with a brick. I swear. And a pregnant woman with some sort of urgent situation. Stuff like that. And meanwhile I keep nearly blacking out, and Martha Stewart is doing some totally unneccessary thing on TV...

669 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:37:57pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

You are truly evil.

/neighbor of the beast.

670 Pianobuff  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:39:01pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

I'm feeling evil. Imagine that. Can I get Post 666?

In honor of your post.................


[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]

671 UncleRancher  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:39:32pm

Restart time. Bye.

672 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:41:01pm

re: #436 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Got to the ER at around 9pm, they didn't get to me till around 2am. On the bright side, the first thing I heard when I got out of there was they had caught Saddam.

My husband woke me out of a sound sleep to report that one.

"Honey, wake up."

"Whaaa?"

"They found Saddam."

"On the kitchen table. If it's not there, look on the fridge."

"No, they found SADDAM!"

"Huh? Is he alive?"

"Yeah! He was in a hole! They're having a press conference in half an hour!"

"Oh, cool." (Whereupon I g0t up out of bed and shuffled in my robe into the living room, to drink cocoa and watch the news.)

673 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:42:01pm

re: #666 Iron Fist

I'm feeling evil. Imagine that. Can I get Post 666?

Puuuuurfect.

674 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:48:32pm

re: #554 haakondahl

Well, I don't see a Jeffersonian or even Hamiltonian Democracy emerging there in the near term, which is fine. Incremental improvement will probably have to suffice--things which are slow to build momentum usually are difficult to stop. Breaking the stuck bits free in the beginning is the critical piece. And so far it's going as well as can be expected. Better than we had any right to hope as of a week ago.
A post-Khameini Council, a post-Council parliamentary system (with several religious parties)--these are the Big Wins up for grabs, as far as I can figure, in the next decade.
Starting now.

Where does that leave us re: nukes?

675 freetoken  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:52:07pm

re: #663 Clubsec


They have been complete control of the economy since that time.

That is just silly.

676 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:56:33pm
677 DEZes  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:58:39pm

re: #676 Iron Fist

It's GLOBAL COOLING! The motherfucking fuckers are fucked! We're freezing to death, and this isn't an overreaction! Freezing, I tell you, when they are looking at the Sahara Ice Cap you'll see!

(Hey, no more off base than the Gorebull Warmist freeks. Any given extreme can happen by random. The climate isn't a constant. Get over it)

I heard all that in the late 70's and early 80's.

678 Flyers1974  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:59:08pm

re: #674 SanFranciscoZionist

Where does that leave us re: nukes?

Not that this answers your question, but an interesting article from foreign affairs, re: nukes. The article doesn't say that Iran having them is ok of course, but argues that the threat is being overstated. It also cites a gap in fear between the Israeli public and the Israeli inteligence committee.

[Link: www.foreignaffairs.com...]

679 Wendya  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 4:59:22pm

re: #587 jim in virginia

Ok, I know it's local news but incredible picture- of DC Metor accident. One metro car is wedged under another. Two dead, 100 injured. FBI is on the scene "to assist- no indication of criminal activity."

Damn.

680 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:08:43pm
681 LGoPs  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:09:04pm

re: #538 DEZes

You can say it, we all know what it is anyway. ;)
Obama has no spine, no balls and no respect for anyone past his upturned nose.

Another first - Our first Invertebrate President.
/

682 Flyers1974  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:30:09pm

re: #680 Iron Fist

re: #680 Iron Fist

We're missing the point. What we should do is simply say that if any nukes go off anywhere in the world we will wipe Iran off the face of the earth, sterilize the soil, and glaze it in a nice pastel green. Anyone who happens to survive will be shot on GPs.

Then do exactly that. Iran would shut up about thirty seconds before any such statement.

Which is a statement in and of itself. If the Iranians felt that we'd nuke them, the problem would be solved.

I'd bet they already know that.

683 Karridine  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:37:31pm

Islam and Muslims will submit only to God, ONLY through God's chosen Ones, al-Qaim and al-Mahdi, Whose coming, existence and teachings must not be discussed here even though such teachings, institutions and principles appear to be CORE and CENTRAL to any Islamic-Muslim resolution to this problem, which RESTS SQUARELY on the religious belief in the Power and Authority of al-Qaim and al-Mahdi, knowledge and news of whose Coming the mullahs and imams of Iran AND all other Islamic nations ACTIVELY WITHHOLD from the people of Islam!

684 Edgesitter  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:51:15pm

re: #683 Karridine

Islam and Muslims will submit only to God, ONLY through God's chosen Ones, al-Qaim and al-Mahdi, Whose coming, existence and teachings must not be discussed here even though such teachings, institutions and principles appear to be CORE and CENTRAL to any Islamic-Muslim resolution to this problem, which RESTS SQUARELY on the religious belief in the Power and Authority of al-Qaim and al-Mahdi, knowledge and news of whose Coming the mullahs and imams of Iran AND all other Islamic nations ACTIVELY WITHHOLD from the people of Islam!

Jeesh sounds like the Obama white house.

685 Karridine  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:56:50pm

re: #684 Edgesitter

Not hardly... the Obama administration is invertebrate, the al-Qaim (May 23, 1844) and al-Mahdi (1853-1892) had the courage of their convictions, at the very least, considering as how The Bab (al-Qaim) was shot to death in a public square in Tabriz, July 9, 1850 for his affrontry and insolence... His mortal remains now are interred atop Mount Carmel, Haifa, Israel

And as for any comparison between Obama and the Glory of God, Who spent virtually all His adult life in exile, under arrest, shackled and chained or imprisoned by Muslim clergy?

No comparison.

686 sngnsgt  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 6:19:19pm

Pittsburgh Penguins 2009 Stanley Cup Champions

/gloat post


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