Overnight Open Thread
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
— Richard Feynman
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
— Richard Feynman
2 | Syrah Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:05:23pm |
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.— Richard Feynman
Once somebody figures it all out, it will up and change into something entirely different.
This has happened several times already.
/
3 | astronmr20 Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:15:11pm |
It's true;
The closer we get to understanding how the fabric of existence really behaves on it's smallest level, we get more confused.
Oddly, I'm right in the middle of a book by Michio Kaku.
4 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:19:12pm |
Just got home from work and was listening to John Bolton on Greta's show on the ride home. He said we should have congressional hearings to find out what pressure, if any, the administration put on scotland to try and prevent the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Can the Republicans force such a hearing, or does the Dem majority guarantee that they won't be allowed?
6 | Soona' Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:26:58pm |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
Just got home from work and was listening to John Bolton on Greta's show on the ride home. He said we should have congressional hearings to find out what pressure, if any, the administration put on scotland to try and prevent the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Can the Republicans force such a hearing, or does the Dem majority guarantee that they won't be allowed?
Has there been any response from the people of Lockerbie?
7 | Bob Dillon Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:29:10pm |
Heh - my CB handle back in the mid 70s.
Quantum Mechanic - I never came across anyone who "got it".
8 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:29:34pm |
re: #6 Soona'
Has there been any response from the people of Lockerbie?
I haven't really checked on that ... but I'm guessing that they're not happy. After all, 11 of their citizens died on the ground when the plane came down.
9 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:31:53pm |
News Note:
Ny Governor David Patterson blames his woes on racism in New York.
[Link: cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com...]
What a sorry excuse for a "leader." After all, his dismal approval rating couldn't possibly be because of the poor job he has done. I hope the good folks in NY remember how their leader gave them the "murtha" treatment come election day.
10 | Soona' Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:36:21pm |
re: #9 _RememberTonyC
News Note:
Ny Governor David Patterson blames his woes on racism in New York.
[Link: cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com...]
What a sorry excuse for a "leader." After all, his dismal approval rating couldn't possibly be because of the poor job he has done. I hope the good folks in NY remember how their leader gave them the "murtha" treatment come election day.
He's right on one thing. These are not "post-racial times". The zero and all the other race baiters are making sure of that.
11 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:46:09pm |
re: #10 Soona'
He's right on one thing. These are not "post-racial times". The zero and all the other race baiters are making sure of that.
I'm really tired of this race baiting. Once Obama was elected, the people of America showed that they'd vote for a Black man if they thought he was qualified. But this country had made plenty of racial progress for decades, so the election wasn't some "shedding of our racism" as a country. I expect the next step will be widespread calls for reparations because of slavery. But I am totally against reparations. Living in this country instead of in Africa is a blessing for African Americans in the year 2009. Although their ancestors suffered in previous centuries due to slavery, would the subsequent generations prefer to live here or in Africa? Because as horrific as slavery was, today's Black Americans would be living in Africa if slavery never existed. Would the majority of Black Americans prefer that? I think not.
12 | Syrah Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:47:44pm |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
Just got home from work and was listening to John Bolton on Greta's show on the ride home. He said we should have congressional hearings to find out what pressure, if any, the administration put on scotland to try and prevent the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Can the Republicans force such a hearing, or does the Dem majority guarantee that they won't be allowed?
At this point, with the democrats having super majorities in both the house and the senate, the Republicans can do absolutely anything that they want, so long as they get the Democrats prior permission.
So in short, no hearings.
13 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:51:18pm |
almost 3:00am in New England ... time to say goodnight!
have a great night, Lizard Nation.
14 | Soona' Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:52:00pm |
re: #13 _RememberTonyC
almost 3:00am in New England ... time to say goodnight!
have a great night, Lizard Nation.
G'nite.
15 | suboptimal Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:52:28pm |
Are quantum mechanics the guys who fix nano-bots?
17 | Dancing along the light of day Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:54:00pm |
re: #15 suboptimal
The bots will rule us all!
Bwahahaha!
///
18 | Dancing along the light of day Fri, Aug 21, 2009 11:55:34pm |
Just singing in the rain
Just singing in the rain!
20 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:20:13am |
re: #18 Floral Giraffe
Is it raining in your area? We don't have a drop.
21 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:23:31am |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
Is it raining in your area? We don't have a drop.
Hmm...I wonder if it's raining here.
Eh, too lazy to go outside.
22 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:24:31am |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
Well, I wouldn't call it rain, but it did spit a little tonight.
Warm, windy & humid.
Very odd, for So. Cal...
How are you?
23 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:25:49am |
re: #21 TheMatrix31
I just came in after food and and drinks. No rain here in the west SG valley, just kind of muggy.
24 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:27:27am |
re: #23 Pvt Bin Jammin
I just came in after food and and drinks. No rain here in the west SG valley, just kind of muggy.
I'll settle for a lightning show!
25 | Soona' Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:28:16am |
26 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:28:28am |
re: #22 Floral Giraffe
I can't complain. Who would listen? LOL I'm kind of wanting a rainstorm but it's not looking like it.
27 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:30:14am |
re: #24 TheMatrix31
I'll settle for a lightning show!
I love the lightning shows but then we'll get brush fires. We need the rain too.
28 | Soona' Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:32:10am |
re: #26 Pvt Bin Jammin
I can't complain. Who would listen? LOL I'm kind of wanting a rainstorm but it's not looking like it.
It's been kind of cool and wet here in Oklahoma this August. Highs today were only in the eighties. Cool tonight and then more eighties tommorrow.
29 | Neutral President Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:33:41am |
re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin
Is it raining in your area? We don't have a drop.
I just went out for a drive because I was going stir crazy at home. In San Diego it's sprinkling for a few minutes, then it stops, then it does it again a half hour later, repeat. All it's doing is getting things dirty.
It feels like its still over 80 out now too.
30 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:34:18am |
Embarrassing to have three posts in a row but I am a little beyond the Iron Fist rule. Just when we were leaving our restaurant some of our friends and family showed up. Hasta Manana, lizards. Love ya.
31 | Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:35:32am |
32 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:35:48am |
re: #29 ArchangelMichael
Warm & breezy here. I'm halfway from your SD to LA.
It'd feel good to have a REAL rainstorm.
But, it's August in California.
So, we wait...
33 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:36:35am |
34 | Soona' Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:39:53am |
Looks like one of those nights. I might check in later.
35 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:40:10am |
re: #27 Pvt Bin Jammin
I love the lightning shows but then we'll get brush fires. We need the rain too.
That's true. On my trip last week, I loved the rain in Kansas City and Chicago. It was welcome during the summer. Awesome.
36 | Dancing along the light of day Sat, Aug 22, 2009 12:42:45am |
Good Night, Lizards.
Stay Scaly!
Sleep tight on a nice, warm rock!
{PBJ}
37 | trolamc Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:03:00am |
There sits the posited reference that religion will understand exactly what science has been searching for...
once science can crest the hill
39 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:27:25am |
I's like being the last living cell in a dying body.
41 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:36:10am |
42 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:43:13am |
re: #41 BatGuano
Sort of...I just ad-libbed the last part.
43 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:47:26am |
re: #42 Fenway_Nation
Excellent.You have fulfilled the Monty Python thread reference imperative.You may advance to the next level.
44 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:49:00am |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
Just got home from work and was listening to John Bolton on Greta's show on the ride home. He said we should have congressional hearings to find out what pressure, if any, the administration put on scotland to try and prevent the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Can the Republicans force such a hearing, or does the Dem majority guarantee that they won't be allowed?
Without Democratic support, no hearing.
For what it's worth, the Administration apparently did bring a lot of pressure to bear in this matter, pushing for continued incarceration. Unfortunately, several blog comments posted here yesterday from Scottish sources indicate that this pressure, applied by both 0bama and Clinton, may have contributed to the release; a lot of Scots took it as an infringement of their sovereignty when the US started telling them how to run their court and prison system. The release may have been due in part to political backlash against what was perceived as ham-fisted foreign meddling.
Demanding that 0bama do anything comes at the cost of 0bama not knowing how to do anything right, and falling back on his ample supplies of arrogance and ego to fill in the gaps. A recipe for foreign policy disasters like this one.
45 | Fierce Guppy Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:59:37am |
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
"Young Bruno lives a wealthy lifestyle in Pre-war Germany along with his mother, elder sister, and army Commandant father. The family re-locate to the countryside where his father is assigned to commandeer a prison camp. A few days later, Bruno befriends another youth, strangely dressed in striped pyjamas, named Shmuel who lives behind an electrified fence. Bruno will soon find out that he is not permitted to befriend his new friend as he is a Jew, and that the neighboring yard is actually a prison camp for Jews awaiting extermination."--www.imdb.com
Tony.
46 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 1:59:47am |
re: #44 SixDegrees
Sounds reasonable to me. I am interested to know in what manner pressure was put on Scotland ie, was it in a "diplomatic" way or was it "ham-fisted"
47 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:02:53am |
Good morning good afternoon and good evening!
Fruitcup is now on the buffet --->
48 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:03:36am |
re: #46 BatGuano
Sounds reasonable to me. I am interested to know in what manner pressure was put on Scotland ie, was it in a "diplomatic" way or was it "ham-fisted"
Given past 0bama diplomatic exploits - a bag full of DVDs in the wrong format, an iPod, and so on - I'd lean toward "ham-fisted" myself. A goodly number of Scots seem to agree, if the postings yesterday are any indication.
49 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:05:21am |
re: #47 Fenway_Nation
Seriously, do you know why littleoldlady is not posting?
50 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:06:51am |
re: #49 BatGuano
No idea, to be honest...I've hardly been around this week myself.
51 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:08:19am |
re: #48 SixDegrees
I tend to agree (without knowing the particulars). Even our allies bristle when America infringes on their sovereignty.
52 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:08:23am |
*Turns over particle/wave.
Made in China.
*Turns back over
53 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:12:18am |
re: #50 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, Yesterday you came up on the MIA list by one of the posters. I don't want to speculate, just a little concerned about littleoldlady and gmsc.
55 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:14:27am |
re: #53 BatGuano
Well...the good news is that I have a job through the end of the month. The bad news is that the hours are crap-tastic enough to make me wish I was unemployed again...
56 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:17:24am |
re: #55 Fenway_Nation
Fenway, I'm glad you are employed. I also have such shitty hours unemployment sounds good. :)
57 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:18:32am |
re: #54 BatGuano
China is the new Japan.
Indeed ! My father told me a couple of years ago that the complaints about Chinese goods today are virtually the same exact complaints he remembers about the Japanese goods in the 50's.
58 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:21:34am |
re: #57 SasquatchOnSteroids
Even through the sixties "Made in Japan" was a joke; right up there with "Mickey Mouse", as in "this mickey Mouse piece of shit!"
59 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:27:04am |
re: #56 BatGuano
I know...I start in the late afternoon and if I head straight home, I'm in the door by 3 AM. My ability to find other or longer-term employment is hindered as long as I'm working this one...altho' all of my bills are taken care of for this month.
60 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:27:32am |
re: #57 SasquatchOnSteroids
Indeed ! My father told me a couple of years ago that the complaints about Chinese goods today are virtually the same exact complaints he remembers about the Japanese goods in the 50's.
Well, except for the wide variety of poisons China is shipping over here, yes.
61 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:27:55am |
62 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:29:20am |
re: #60 SixDegrees
Like I said when a Chinese manufacturer was making a serious bid for Hummer:
'They must've found a way to make cars run on tainted milk and lead toys'
63 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:33:36am |
re: #59 Fenway_Nation
That is quite a quandary; one I have faced many times. Your working hours conflict with you ability to secure new employment. In better times I have actually quit jobs (with two weeks notice) to search for other opportunities. I wouldn't dare do it now.
64 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:36:46am |
re: #60 SixDegrees
Like the farm raised fish and crustaceans that are shot full of antibiotics because of the polluted water they are raised in?
65 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:37:42am |
re: #59 Fenway_Nation
I've worked two days straight, with about three hours sleep, and not all at once. My job is supercraptastic, but I'm self-employed. Like, who am I going to bitch to?
Working sucks dick. I know, I've just stated the obvious.
66 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:39:51am |
re: #64 BatGuano
How do you give antibiotics to water creatures? Do they just does the water? Doesn't that eff up the water for everything else?
67 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:43:33am |
re: #64 BatGuano
Like the farm raised fish and crustaceans that are shot full of antibiotics because of the polluted water they are raised in?
Among many other things.
68 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:43:48am |
re: #66 theheat
How do you give antibiotics to water creatures? Do they just does the water? Doesn't that eff up the water for everything else?
Yes and yes.
69 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:44:26am |
Taliban militants cut off fingers of 2 Afghan voters
Two voters who had dipped their index fingers in purple ink — a fraud prevention measure — were attacked in Kandahar province shortly after voting Thursday, said Nader Nadery, the head of the Free and Fair Election Foundation of Afghanistan. Kandahar is the spiritual birthplace of the Taliban.Rumors that militants would cut off voters' ink-stained fingers spread before the vote. A Taliban spokesman had said militants would not carry out such attacks, but the Taliban is a loose organization of individual commanders who could carry out the threat on their own.
Total effing barbarians we are fighting.
70 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:44:41am |
71 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:45:55am |
re: #66 theheat
How do you give antibiotics to water creatures? Do they just does the water? Doesn't that eff up the water for everything else?
Beats the hell out of me, but in 2007 there was a ban on these Chinese products in this country. These were all farm raised creatures so they could have been individually treated but I wouldn't rule out dumping antibiotics into the cesspools in which they were raised.
72 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:46:36am |
re: #68 SixDegrees
We had farm raised salmon, and it tasted so bad we couldn't eat it. Mushy, salty, shitty. Compared to so-called wild salmon, the stuff isn't fit to eat. Maybe all the doctoring of the water had something to do with it. (I had no idea they actually did that.)
So, with all the environmental regulations, how do they get away with treating the fish and the water?
73 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:47:34am |
re: #64 BatGuano
Like the farm raised fish and crustaceans that are shot full of antibiotics because of the polluted water they are raised in?
Actually, a similar criticism can be lodged against American meat production, where sub-clinical doses of antibiotics are used to suppress diseases caused by overcrowding and the bizarre diet animals are fed. Aside from being unpleasant, it creates and absolutely perfect breeding ground for antibiotic-resistant bacteria to evolve and thrive.
China, however, is completely unregulated, and use haphazard amounts of questionable products, so you never know what the hell you're getting unless someone tests it (which will never happen in China) or you sprout a third arm.
74 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:48:38am |
re: #70 Fenway_Nation
Any chance of going permanent there, or are you beating the pavement again after this stint?
75 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:49:57am |
re: #69 SasquatchOnSteroids
Taliban militants cut off fingers of 2 Afghan voters
Total effing barbarians we are fighting.
For what it's worth, two doesn't indicate much strength. The Taliban have been threatening this for weeks, and it was supposed to be a widespread reprisal to voters. That they were able to mug a couple of people in an alley somewhere doesn't speak well for their actual power.
At least at the moment. I have a feeling this Administration will be crafting a hasty exit strategy soon.
76 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:50:33am |
re: #74 theheat
No way in hell I'm going permanent with this particular stint, since apparently the regular employees aren't paid much better than us temps and have hardly any benefits to speak of.
77 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:51:33am |
re: #72 theheat
We had farm raised salmon, and it tasted so bad we couldn't eat it. Mushy, salty, shitty. Compared to so-called wild salmon, the stuff isn't fit to eat. Maybe all the doctoring of the water had something to do with it. (I had no idea they actually did that.)
So, with all the environmental regulations, how do they get away with treating the fish and the water?
What environmental regulations? China has none worth talking about.
78 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:52:07am |
re: #73 SixDegrees
I wouldn't intentionally buy anything edible from China. Im pissed off as it is that so many of our food sources were contaminated with shit from China, and we didn't know about. Pet food, animal food, people food - the Chinese hit us from every direction.
And I'm quite aware of the factory farming aspect of America's meat sources. It's not only unhealthy, it's barbaric. I don't eat meat any more, and that's mostly why. I'm trying to get Mr. Heat to buy all organically grown local meat, butchered on-site, for just that reason.
79 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:52:09am |
Good Morning Lizards!
It's pool party day...When the hell is the Sun coming up? Lazy ass sun...*wink*
80 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:52:13am |
re: #75 SixDegrees
*sigh* Wasn't Afghanistan supposed to be the 'good' war?
/at least according to the left.
81 | GOPManHatTanIte Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:53:03am |
re: #68 SixDegrees
what about in the food they consume...granted some antibiotics etc would obviously dissolve into the water this way as well.
82 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:53:40am |
re: #78 theheat
I wouldn't intentionally buy anything edible from China. Im pissed off as it is that so many of our food sources were contaminated with shit from China, and we didn't know about. Pet food, animal food, people food - the Chinese hit us from every direction.
And I'm quite aware of the factory farming aspect of America's meat sources. It's not only unhealthy, it's barbaric. I don't eat meat any more, and that's mostly why. I'm trying to get Mr. Heat to buy all organically grown local meat, butchered on-site, for just that reason.
It's a good plan, if you can find sources nearby. Have you read The Omnivore's Dillema, by Michael Pollan? If not, you ought to pick it up.
83 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:53:58am |
re: #76 Fenway_Nation
aren't paid much better than us temps and have hardly any benefits to speak of.
Sounds like if you worked for me ;-) I wouldn't do it if I had the choice!
84 | SixDegrees Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:55:22am |
Gotta go. Much remodeling work today, and The Borg (Home Depot) opens at 6:00, so I'm outta here.
85 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:55:50am |
re: #73 SixDegrees
I am against inhumane raising of farm animals.I haven't had veal since 2002. If a beef animal can so gracious as to let us slaughter it for our consumption the least we can is allow to exist in an environment where it is able to browse in dignity from the grasses of our fields. Penned up and corn-fed is not the life meant for a bovine. Certainly not as incubators for antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria.
86 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:56:00am |
re: #84 SixDegrees
Gotta go. Much remodeling work today, and The Borg (Home Depot) opens at 6:00, so I'm outta here.
Have a great day!
87 | GOPManHatTanIte Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:56:03am |
re: #78 theheat
Havent gotten to it myself but it was recomennded to me
Poorly Made in China
89 | GOPManHatTanIte Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:57:37am |
re: #82 SixDegrees
"Eat food not too much mostly vegetables" i think that was his deal right?
90 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:58:18am |
re: #82 SixDegrees
No, haven't read it, but I've read several books over the years about factory farming, and being in the periphery of the ag business, I know a lot about the 'behind the scenes' stuff. Nasty, ugly, brutal, sickening, unhealthy, scary.
We have a couple sources of organic/homegrown beef within just a few miles of us, and that's where we go. I won't touch the crap from the chain grocery stores any more, and I'm highly skeptical about any of the big fast food chains.
92 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 2:59:19am |
re: #78 theheat
Turns out lobster is a good buy right now.
/Much to the detriment of New England's lobster fishermen
93 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:01:53am |
re: #87 GOPManHatTanIte
I've read some stuff in National Geographic about the working conditions and factories in China. While I'm sure it only scratches the surface, it's all bad. Toxic, shoddy, the employees are horribly exploited, and they are a major global polluter.
But Wal-Mart sure digs 'em.
94 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:04:49am |
re: #92 Fenway_Nation
That's sad. Seems like they could manipulate the prices, or at least maintain them, same as a lot of other commodities. I don't mind paying more for lobster. It isn't like we'd eat it all the time, anyway.
95 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:05:39am |
re: #92 Fenway_Nation
If lobster prices are down, I'm gonna get me some tail.
97 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:06:46am |
re: #93 theheat
Funny...there was some Discovery Channel miniseries on the climate change/global warming/whatever-the -fuck-they're-calling-it-this -week hosted by Tom Brokaw that peripherally acknowledged China's role as a major polluter, but blamed it not on the toxin-spewing Eastern-bloc type industrial infrastructure, but newly affluent Chinese seeking to emulate the American/consumerist lifestyle.
I shit you not...
98 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:06:48am |
re: #95 BatGuano
If lobster prices are down, I'm gonna get me some tail.
LOL
I have only had lobster once in my life...Nothing special...
Good Morning
99 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:08:01am |
re: #95 BatGuano
Look...you don't hear me bragging about that single mom who took me back to her place last month...
Oh wait...
100 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:10:05am |
re: #98 HoosierHoops
God morning Hoosier. I do love lobster tail, especially when I prepare it myself which is about once per year.
101 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:10:08am |
re: #97 Fenway_Nation
I don't know if the NatGeo Chinese factories photo essays made it online, but the evidence was right there before your eyes. It's gd filthy and sickening, and on such an enormous scale, it's mind-boggling. I believe if the rest of the world really cleaned up their act, China alone would pollute as much as all the other countries had, combined.
102 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:13:20am |
re: #95 BatGuano
If lobster prices are down, I'm gonna get me some tail.
I saw the biggest lobster tail I've ever seen in my life on the table next to us at Gibson's Steakhoue in Chicago last week. RIDICULOUS.
103 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:13:23am |
re: #100 BatGuano
God morning Hoosier. I do love lobster tail, especially when I prepare it myself which is about once per year.
Good Morning..ESPN is reporting the Cubs have been sold to a Billionaire..The Rickets or somebody? They will be dancing in the street in Chicago...Sale will take place after the season
104 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:15:38am |
re: #97 Fenway_Nation
Fenway, that is too convoluted to make up.I'm sure Tom Brokaw believes it. And it all comes back to the USA.
105 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:18:31am |
re: #102 TheMatrix31
It is now 3:17 am in California and I WANT LOBSTER TAIL!
106 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:20:08am |
Oh shit...this just in:
Argentines outraged as Ahmadinejad Taps '94 Buenos Aires Bombing Mastermind for Defense Minister
BUENOS AIRES (AFP) – Argentina expressed outrage over Iran's nomination of a man wanted in connection with a 1994 Buenos Aires bombing that killed 85 people as the next defense minister.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tapping Ahmad Vahidi for the post is "an affront to Argentine justice and the victims of the terrorist attack" on the Jewish community center, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
News of the nomination was received "with grave concern and deserves the most energetic condemnation of the Argentine government," it said.In 2007, Interpol issued a warrant for the arrest of Vahidi, a former head of Al Quds, an elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.
The July 9, 1994 bombing leveled the seven-floor Argentine Jewish Mutual Association building in Buenos Aires, killing 85 people and wounding 300. No single individual has ever been convicted for the bombing.
It was the worst terrorist attack in Argentina, which has the largest Jewish community in the Americas outside the United States, and the second large-scale anti-Jewish strike in Buenos Aires that decade.
In 1992, the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires was leveled in a bombing that killed 22 people and wounded 200.
In Washington, US officials reacted with concern.
"If this report is true and if this man is confirmed as a cabinet minister and is wanted by Interpol for his involvement in a terrorist act, of course this would be disturbing," State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said.
Argentina's condemnation cast fresh doubts on Ahmadinejad's cabinet nominations, which face stiff opposition from Iranian lawmakers.
But Tehran brushed aside the criticism as part of a "Zionist plot."
"How come they didn't bring it up in the past?" asked Ahmadinejad press adviser Ali Akbar Javanfekr, referring to the Argentine complaint.
"Mr Vahidi was a deputy defense minister and this is very senior political position," he told AFP.
"Therefore, it seems that this is a new trick being planned and is basically a Zionist plot."
Among the other Iranians also wanted by Interpol as part of its assistance to Buenos Aires in the case are Iran's former intelligence chief Ali Fallahian and the former head of the country's Revolutionary Guards, Mohsen Rezaei, as well as three Iranian diplomats.
Argentine prosecutors allege Iran masterminded the bombing in Buenos Aires and entrusted the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah to execute it.
In November 2006, Argentine prosecutors issued arrest warrants against several Iranians, including former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and former foreign minister Ali Akbar Velayati.
But Interpol's executive committee withdrew its warrants against Rafsanjani, Velayati and another Iranian.
/at least this is just in across my eyeballs
107 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:20:38am |
re: #105 BatGuano
ewww. A little too close to breakfast cereal time for seafood, isn't it? Bluck. Wouldn't a big bowl of Captain Crunch sound better?
Now I want Captain Crunch. ('Cept it always tears up the roof of my mouth.)
108 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:20:51am |
re: #105 BatGuano
It is now 3:17 am in California and I WANT LOBSTER TAIL!
Where are you at? I'm a California boy,,,Born and raised
109 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:20:53am |
re: #102 TheMatrix31
I saw the biggest lobster tail I've ever seen in my life on the table next to us at Gibson's Steakhoue in Chicago last week. RIDICULOUS.
We had dinner at The Black Pelican in Kitty Hawk last week while on vacation.
They had a tank with a claw (like those stuffed animal ones) with lobsters in it.
$2.00 to try and catch one with it. "You catch it we cook it". Kids were pouring money in that thing. They make some good bank on that machine, and not one of them even came close to catching one.
I was laughing my ass off, those Lobsters are probably older than me.
110 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:21:22am |
re: #103 HoosierHoops
What are the odds of a major league baseball team being bought by billionaire?
111 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:21:53am |
re: #110 BatGuano
What are the odds of a major league baseball team being bought by billionaire?
LOL
one in a million? LOL
112 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:22:31am |
re: #110 BatGuano
Slightly better than an NBA team being purchased by an unemployed/underemployed slacker?
Oh wait...there's always Mark Cuban,,,
113 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:23:53am |
re: #112 Fenway_Nation
Slightly better than an NBA team being purchased by an unemployed/underemployed slacker?
Oh wait...there's always Mark Cuban,,,
I don't like Cuban...But I wish I scored a billion dollars and went out and bought a NBA... I'd buy Golden State
114 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:24:07am |
re: #107 theheat
ewww. A little too close to breakfast cereal time for seafood, isn't it? Bluck. Wouldn't a big bowl of Captain Crunch sound better?
Now I want Captain Crunch. ('Cept it always tears up the roof of my mouth.)
It's been tearing up the roof of my mouth for forty years and I like it!
115 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:25:02am |
Any wonder why the NYT is a fucking joke ?
If you look at their homepage, it's all Bush, all the time.
Who is this Obama person which you speak of ?
116 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:25:31am |
re: #106 Fenway_Nation
"If this report is true and if this man is confirmed as a cabinet minister and is wanted by Interpol for his involvement in a terrorist act, of course this would be disturbing," State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said.
Uh oh, another strongly worded letter on its way. Even during Bush's tenure, no one's figured out talking them to death and condemning their choices has accomplished nothing, other than posturing. So far, that's all anyone else in the world is prepared to do, except maybe Israel, because Israel has the most to lose.
117 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:26:35am |
re: #108 HoosierHoops
Where are you at? I'm a California boy,,,Born and raised
Currently, I am in San Jose, just across the Stevens Creek border where I want to return to Santa Clara.
118 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:28:16am |
Too bad I've prevented myself from eating lobster since I broke out eating it a couple times when I was a kid. Maybe I should try again? It's delicious.
If I had a billion dollars, I'd buy my Suns and rescue them from their miserable owner and general manager.
119 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:29:00am |
re: #117 BatGuano
Currently, I am in San Jose, just across the Stevens Creek border where I want to return to Santa Clara.
No shit! cool.. I'm from Napa but work in Silly Cone Valley...My Home office is on Central Express freeway in Santa Clara...
Transfered here...to the corn fields...weee!
120 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:31:27am |
re: #115 SasquatchOnSteroids
Let me guess...0bama's numbers are slipping again, so Pinchey figures us rubes need a reminder of how bad we had it under BushCo...
121 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:31:38am |
re: #118 TheMatrix31
The Phoenix Suns? All I know about them is their web site blows.
122 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:33:30am |
re: #121 theheat
The Phoenix Suns? All I know about them is their web site blows.
Steve Nash is a great point guard..I saw him live at the ReggieMiller retirement game...They blew the Pacers out..Nash was great that night...
123 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:34:20am |
re: #119 HoosierHoops
Hey, neighbor! The only cornfields I know around here are on Lawrence Expressway around Poincietta drive.But Lawrence intersects Central.
125 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:35:31am |
re: #121 theheat
The Phoenix Suns? All I know about them is their web site blows.
LOL...eh, their site is ok.
re: #122 HoosierHoops
Steve Nash is a great point guard..I saw him live at the ReggieMiller retirement game...They blew the Pacers out..Nash was great that night...
He's the man on AND off the court, but I'm not too crazy about his politics.
126 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:35:39am |
re: #120 Fenway_Nation
As a matter of fact, Obama is sucking bad right now (per CNN yesterday), and far worse than Bush did at this stage of the presidency. At this rate, he could could poll even lower than Bush, and much sooner.
That's what happens when you drag your country, kicking and screaming, into debt that defies the imagination, and try to institute a nanny state right out of the starting gate.
A lot of people have made it clear they will not go quietly, and not just the nutters. I expect the Dems are going to lose some traction in 2010. It'll be a rude awakening for them.
127 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:36:20am |
Just out of curiosity, is Iran going out of it's way to piss off the world's breadbaskets? I guess Canada and the Ukraine are next (altho' I think they've been working on Canada for awhile- having some of their citicizens die in custody and whatnot)...
128 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:37:41am |
re: #120 Fenway_Nation
Let me guess...0bama's numbers are slipping again, so Pinchey figures us rubes need a reminder of how bad we had it under BushCo...
That or look ever there while your shit is stolen.
Either way, fishwrap is all it's good for.
129 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:37:46am |
re: #122 HoosierHoops
Well, with a name like Hoosier Hoops... I'm more of a baseball fan, if anything.
130 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:39:39am |
re: #123 BatGuano
Hey, neighbor! The only cornfields I know around here are on Lawrence Expressway around Poincietta drive.But Lawrence intersects Central.
I fly home a couple times a year...We'll have to get together...I drive up to Napa and say hi to my pops in Yountville and I have a girl at UC Davis...she lives in Vacaville ( dump)
I like going over to the pub at Santa Clara University and having a beer with the Seniors and watch sports on the big screen
131 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:40:23am |
re: #125 TheMatrix31
Don't know about Nash's politics but he is a great point guard. Stylistically he is up there with Bob Cousy and John Stockton. What was Mark Cuban thinking?
132 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:41:17am |
re: #131 BatGuano
Don't know about Nash's politics but he is a great point guard. Stylistically he is up there with Bob Cousy and John Stockton. What was Mark Cuban thinking?
He signed Erick Dampier instead, lol.
Nash + D'Antoni = perfect marriage.
133 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:42:23am |
re: #126 theheat
Those huge debt numbers are not yet realized because only a fraction of that TARP money and other FIASCO Funds have not yet been spent. If The People rise up now and prevent the rest of the money being spent on wild extravagances we may yet be able to bring this under control, but it will take some major convincing.
134 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:42:39am |
re: #130 HoosierHoops
I'm ashamed to admit that in the seventies, I used to go to Santa Clara University to score dope.
135 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:44:55am |
re: #134 BatGuano
I'm ashamed to admit that in the seventies, I used to go to Santa Clara University to score dope.
And in a nice little roundabout connective way, Steve Nash attended Santa Clara University.
136 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:45:34am |
re: #127 Fenway_Nation
I think they thrive on conflict, wherever and however they can get it. It's such an ordeal to truly wage war on another country, they're betting it isn't worth it to most countries to actually do anything, and they're right. A few dead foreigners - tourists, journalist, whatever - is a lot cheaper than a declaration of war by the offended country.
The knee-jerk days of kicking ass are long gone, and I don't see them coming back.
137 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:45:36am |
re: #134 BatGuano
I'm ashamed to admit that in the seventies, I used to go to Santa Clara University to score dope.
LOL
Did you wear a 3 piece white polyester suit strutting down the street...Staying Alive? You stud you!
138 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:47:26am |
re: #137 HoosierHoops
LOL
Did you wear a 3 piece white polyester suit strutting down the street...Staying Alive? You stud you!
2 piece 'lectric blue. Seems like a long time ago now.
139 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:49:18am |
re: #135 TheMatrix31
And in a nice little roundabout connective way, Steve Nash attended Santa Clara University.
I've seen passing in Basketball...His passing is so crisp and smart in his prime..
To see him live in full speed making the most beautiful pass to the open man is a thing to behold.
140 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:49:42am |
re: #133 UncleRancher
I've been somewhat surprised how Obama has reacted to the town hall meetings, alone. He's changed his tune, already, and has tipped his hand a bit. He's either a terrific poker player and he's baiting us playing possum, or he's truly rattled. I'm hoping it's the latter.
Bush went to sleep how many nights (?) knowing a great number of the people in the country hated his freakin' guts. Obama's only had a tiny taste of that kind of unpopularity so far, and he's already going sideways. He doesn't like being unpopular, and he doesn't seem to have much of a stomach for it.
141 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:50:47am |
re: #137 HoosierHoops
No, I was a tight blue jeaned white cotton shirt kinda stud. :) Clapton was my god.
142 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:51:10am |
Arab group republishes Shoah cartoon on website
Disgraceful Arab protest: The Arab-European League in Holland has republished a cartoon mocking the Holocaust three years after it has been removed from its website.
The move was aimed to protest the decision not to indict Dutch Lawmaker Geert Wilders over an anti-Islamic movie he produced.
OK, we're pissed at the Dutch.
Mock them Jooos !
143 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:51:14am |
In other New England lobster news...rare cobalt-blue lobster caught off of New Hampshire coast.
145 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:52:02am |
re: #138 UncleRancher
2 piece 'lectric blue. Seems like a long time ago now.
Come on Rancher..It's cool..You can tell us..did you have a big floppy purple hat? *wink*
146 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:52:35am |
re: #139 HoosierHoops
I've seen passing in Basketball...His passing is so crisp and smart in his prime..
To see him live in full speed making the most beautiful pass to the open man is a thing to behold.
I wish I was alive to watch Pistol Pete.
147 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:53:31am |
re: #145 HoosierHoops
Come on Rancher..It's cool..You can tell us..did you have a big floppy purple hat? *wink*
Nope. Didn't need the hat. The rest of it worked just fine.
148 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:57:33am |
re: #143 Fenway_Nation
In other New England lobster news...rare cobalt-blue lobster caught off of New Hampshire coast.
Red Lobsters are oppressing me !
149 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:58:25am |
re: #146 TheMatrix31
Matrix, you are so wise beyond you years. Pistol Pete Maravich invented "show time" in the NBA. I was alive to watch him but did not have the opportunity to see him live.. It was a sad day when I read that he died of heart failure at the age of forty in a pick up game.
150 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:59:01am |
re: #146 TheMatrix31
I wish I was alive to watch Pistol Pete.
imagine being in college and the game of the week you have to guard pistol pete...That would suck knowing he was going to destroy you...
His cross over was under rated...He was so under rated with ball handling..When he was a kid his pops drove him around in a car and make Pete bounce the ball out the back seat window...Serious training...
Pete would go right around you and shoot beautiful shots.
151 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 3:59:31am |
re: #140 theheat
I've been somewhat surprised how Obama has reacted to the town hall meetings, alone. He's changed his tune, already, and has tipped his hand a bit. He's either a terrific poker player and he's baiting us playing possum, or he's truly rattled. I'm hoping it's the latter.
Bush went to sleep how many nights (?) knowing a great number of the people in the country hated his freakin' guts. Obama's only had a tiny taste of that kind of unpopularity so far, and he's already going sideways. He doesn't like being unpopular, and he doesn't seem to have much of a stomach for it.
Somewhere here I have an email from a friend in Montana who was around when Ear Leader was there for his "town hall". Everything right down to the last detail and everyone in attendance was completely orchestrated. They picked an empty hanger clear out of the public view for the venue when there are all kinds of rooms available in that college town of Bozeman.
152 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:02:57am |
re: #151 UncleRancher
AHA! I was just talking to my brother about that yesterday. I knew there was no way in hell he got the kind of positive response they reported in the news. It said about 1,300 people showed up, and the audience was overall "very positive" about the (vaguely) proposed health care plan.
I knew it was bullshit! There's no way you could get 1,300 Montanans at random that would view this plan positively. They had to dredge the Dem pool pretty deeply for the attendance.
153 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:04:30am |
re: #151 UncleRancher
Yea...Montana and Colorado kinda struck me as odd choices for a town hall venue for 0bama until I realized that he probably went out of his way to find blue enclaves in these red states.
My understanding is that the Bozeman area is a popular retreat for some of the rich and famous blue-state types in part because of it's proximity to the north enterance of Yellowstone. I've also heard Missoula being compared to Austin (very liberal college town in a state better known for rugged cowboy and ranching types)...
154 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:04:38am |
re: #149 BatGuano
Matrix, you are so wise beyond you years. Pistol Pete Maravich invented "show time" in the NBA. I was alive to watch him but did not have the opportunity to see him live.. It was a sad day when I read that he died of heart failure at the age of forty in a pick up game.
Seems like he would have been one of my favorite players ever. I love watching guys like Nash and Kidd for those same reasons. All are just magical on the court.
re: #150 HoosierHoops
imagine being in college and the game of the week you have to guard pistol pete...That would suck knowing he was going to destroy you...
His cross over was under rated...He was so under rated with ball handling..When he was a kid his pops drove him around in a car and make Pete bounce the ball out the back seat window...Serious training...
Pete would go right around you and shoot beautiful shots.
I'd probably piss my pants if I had the assignment to guard him. Didn't he average like, 44 a game in college?
155 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:07:18am |
re: #153 Fenway_Nation
One of the people I work with was in Yellowstone (*) at the time camping. When the motorcade came into Old Faithful area they just moved out of the way.
*- The Real Reason Ear Leader went to Bozeman
156 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:07:37am |
re: #150 HoosierHoops
I believe he still has the colege record for scoring 44 points per game. And if you're a defender, you have no idea where the ball is going. Also, he wore old baggy socks,
157 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:09:09am |
re: #154 TheMatrix31
I'd probably piss my pants if I had the assignment to guard him. Didn't he average like, 44 a game in college?
It would be hell..Pete's all around game was under rated..He scored a lot of points but was a true baller..
The best pure shooter I saw in College was Rick Mount...Just a beautiful stroke...
159 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:10:14am |
re: #157 HoosierHoops
It would be hell..Pete's all around game was under rated..He scored a lot of points but was a true baller..
The best pure shooter I saw in College was Rick Mount...Just a beautiful stroke...
Heh...good thing they didn't call him Dick Mount.
160 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:13:41am |
re: #155 UncleRancher
You mean, they didn't hand Obama a dozen cupcakes, and suggest he make friends with the bears?
161 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:15:50am |
Yankees beats Boston 20-11 last night..
Damn Yankees
162 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:16:42am |
re: #161 HoosierHoops
Yankees beats Boston 20-11 last night..
Damn Yankees
WTF? I thought that was an NFL preseason game...
163 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:17:11am |
re: #161 HoosierHoops
Yankees beats Boston 20-11 last night..
Damn Yankees
And the Braves laid an egg against the Marlins in the opening game of a CRUCIAL series.
164 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:18:10am |
And the Rays beat Texas to move within 2 games of the wildcard.
165 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:18:24am |
166 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:18:50am |
re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar
And the Rays beat Texas to move within 2 games of the wildcard.
Speed and power...Watch out...
167 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:20:02am |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Speed and power...Watch out...
I got a Mowhawk last year before the playoffs started. I looked like my dad when he was in the Army.
168 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:20:55am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
I got a Mowhawk last year before the playoffs started. I looked like my dad when he was in the Army.
LOL
we need pics!
169 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:21:36am |
re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar
And the Rays beat Texas to move within 2 games of the wildcard.
It's still three :-/
170 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:23:32am |
171 | theheat Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:24:18am |
Someone screwed up on the math...
Obama administration projects $9 trillion deficit over 10 years... a significant jump from the $7 trillion deficit that officials had projected at the beginning of the year.
And on that happy note, I need to get my butt back to work. It's been fun. 'Night, All.
172 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:24:41am |
re: #160 theheat
You mean, they didn't hand Obama a dozen cupcakes, and suggest he make friends with the bears?
..
Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out.
However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request..
Hmmm...900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.
This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. One can only imagine what else we are paying for.
On Friday ___ and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd. The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs.
173 | UncleRancher Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:24:51am |
Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them...professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area). Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man. So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.
If you are wondering about the press...Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds. We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho.
Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.
It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes...the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged!!! I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous.
___ and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved.
Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC.
Scary
174 | BatGuano Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:25:20am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
Believe it or not, Mohawks were popular among elementary students in 1961, in Eugene, Oregon.
175 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:26:47am |
re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar
As long as it wasn't the 'Rawhawk' bikini wax...
176 | TheMatrix31 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:27:02am |
177 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:30:27am |
178 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:33:25am |
Yanks/Sox at 4 today and Bucs/J'ville at 8 tonight. I'm gonna need more beer.
179 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:35:59am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
Enough of this NFL preseason crapola...wake me when the games actually count.
181 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:36:07am |
re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yanks/Sox at 4 today and Bucs/J'ville at 8 tonight. I'm gonna need more beer.
Pool party and BBQ today at the hoopsters! I've been up for 2 hours...Weee!
183 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:37:26am |
184 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:40:23am |
re: #179 Fenway_Nation
Enough of this NFL preseason crapola...wake me when the games actually count.
The new Colts defense just beat the living hell out of the bad ass Eagles...
We don't do that much cover 2 crap now...Big on the line to stop the run...Fast in the backfield...
The Colts now have a real defense to help Manning..
Ask the Eagles...They are in hot tubs this morning
186 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:42:17am |
187 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:45:00am |
re: #186 HoosierHoops
The Bucs already lost a starting safety for the first 4 games (substance abuse violation) and a starting corner got arrested Thursday night and I am sure Godell will give him a 4 gamer. Geez.
188 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:49:40am |
The Colts are the rare team n sports for the last decade..
The Character of the players and Dungy and his influence on this town..
Even if you hate the Colts when they play your team..Everyone secretly admires them and loves the team...A very special football team...
189 | Pullus Iulius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:53:08am |
re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar
The age-old equation has always been:
football(bad) - football(none at all) = football.
Come to think of it, that worked for beer too.
190 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:55:12am |
re: #189 Pullus Iulius
The age-old equation has always been:
football(bad) - football(none at all) = football.
Come to think of it, that worked for beer too.
Good morning
hope you are well today...
191 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:56:06am |
re: #188 HoosierHoops
I met Tony Dungy. Had him sign an old school Bucs Pennant. He signed the wrong side and graciously took it back and signed the correct side. And I do like the Colts. But I hate the freakin' Raiders. Hate. Red Hot Hate.
192 | Pullus Iulius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:56:48am |
re: #190 HoosierHoops
Good morning
hope you are well today...
And to you, too. Thank you. Hangover from the football(bad), though.
194 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 4:59:38am |
re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar
Love me some NCAA football, too...
September 1, 2007 was a pretty good day for me. I blew off most of the college football games I could get on XM so I could listen to Buchholz throw his no-hitter against the O's.
195 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:00:22am |
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.— Richard Feynman
Well, very few people understand economics, either. And nobody in Washington seems to.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. on Friday announced four more bank failures, including a Texas bank with total assets of about $13 billion, pushing this year's tally up to 81.
Guaranty Bank of Austin, Texas became the 81st bank failure of 2009 after it was closed by Office of Thrift Supervision, which appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. as receiver, the federal agency said late Friday.
Yep, that stimulus is sure working great.
196 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:02:01am |
re: #195 3 wood
the economic outlook just gets rosier and rosier don't it?
197 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:03:15am |
re: #194 Fenway_Nation
Love me some NCAA football, too...
September 1, 2007 was a pretty good day for me. I blew off most of the college football games I could get on XM so I could listen to Buchholz throw his no-hitter against the O's.
The week following 9/11 in 2001, baseball got pushed back. I saw the Rays/Yanks (only stayed 1 inning) went to Bucs/Packers, left there and saw the Lightning/Panthers hockey game. 1 day, 3 pro sport games.
199 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:05:02am |
re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar
I met Tony Dungy. Had him sign an old school Bucs Pennant. He signed the wrong side and graciously took it back and signed the correct side. And I do like the Colts. But I hate the freakin' Raiders. Hate. Red Hot Hate.
LOL! I grew up in Northern California..I loved the Raiders with all my heart...When we were kids and the raiders were kicking ass we'd all run outside at halftime and play ball and kick the living hell out of each other..then run back for the game...
One time I was in Alameda and got into the practice field and watched Lester Hayes work out for an hour...What a monster! you would not want to meet up with him on the field of battle...
I will always be a Raiders Fan..My Childhood hero's
200 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:06:06am |
re: #195 3 wood
Hey! Just the lizard I was hoping to hear from.
I was just wondering why, despite some big gains on the NYSE this week, grocers like Kroger, SuperValu and Safeway were trading much much closer to their 52-week lows...was there any dismal earnings forecasts recently that I missed?
201 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:06:53am |
re: #198 Irish Rose
Good morning, lizards.
Good morning Irish..It's pool party day and it's colder than hell outside so far..high of 72 today...overcast...
202 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:07:11am |
Running out of gas
Consumers, auto dealers facing problems as 'Cash for Clunkers' comes to an end
You have just a few days left to trade in your clunker for up to $4,500 off the cost of a new, more fuel-efficient car.
But because of some potholes in the reimbursement process, you may find yourself facing off against the car dealer, consumer advocates say.
Some auto dealers are pressing consumers to sign agreements requiring them to pay back to the dealer the rebate of up to $4,500 -- or return the new car -- if the government doesn't approve the customer's clunker exchange.
But some say consumers shouldn't be on the hook to come up with the cash.
"You go in, you trade in your car and you think you're getting in on the cash-for-clunkers deal. But then the dealer tells you, 'Oops, it didn't go through. We need the money or the car back,'" said Rosemary Shahan, president of Citizens for Auto Reliability and Safety, or CARS, a California-based advocacy group.
"To be fair to the dealers, it's a new program, it's complicated. There are probably dealers who have made a lot of honest mistakes," she said. "The question is: Who should pay for that? We're concerned consumers are being pressured to come up with money that they really don't have."
Just project this situation onto your doctor.
Meanwhile, tired of doling out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of rebates to consumers without yet seeing a dime, in some cases, from the government, some dealers have stopped participating in the clunker program, according to news reports
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203 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:08:12am |
re: #199 HoosierHoops
I saw the Raiders in Tampa at the old stadium when I had season tix. Raiders fans everywhere. Cole Ford was attemting a 20 yard FG to win it. He missed. We ended up winning. Heh. But yes, old school Raiders were bad ass.
205 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:09:55am |
re: #201 HoosierHoops
Good morning Irish..It's pool party day and it's colder than hell outside so far..high of 72 today...overcast...
Ow, not a good day for a pool party.
Hope ya got lots of food ;).
You feeling better today?
206 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:11:57am |
re: #196 bbuddha
the economic outlook just gets rosier and rosier don't it?
There is a disconnect going on. The Obama worshippers including the MSM are trying to paint slowing destruction as economic growth.
Meanwhile, more and more people are losing their jobs, folks are running out of unemployment benefits, banks are still closing and the economy keeps contracting. All Obama and his worshippers can seem to do is demonize the opposition and talk about "hope".
Hope does not pay the bills, and the world is quickly running out of patience with our profligate deficits spending.
207 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:13:22am |
With Smiles, Obama Leaves Capital Behind - having thoroughly wee-weed off the people of the US our Presidente does need a good vacation.
“He is a chess player in a town with a lot of checker players,” said David Plouffe...
...and the people are a bunch of stupid hick's incapable of playing checkers, let alone chess, huh Plouffe?
Mornin folks.
208 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:13:31am |
re: #200 Fenway_Nation
I was just wondering why, despite some big gains on the NYSE this week, grocers like Kroger, SuperValu and Safeway were trading much much closer to their 52-week lows...was there any dismal earnings forecasts recently that I missed?
Beware of the "big gains", it was on very light trading activity. I see a 5% pull back coming, at least.
Again, folks are out of work and running out of benefits and savings.
209 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:14:11am |
re: #202 3 wood
So the dealers ruin the engine of a car you trade in, then don't get their cash from the gubment, then want the new car back. Hmm. Sounds like everything is just ducky.
/
210 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:14:22am |
re: #206 3 wood
There is a disconnect going on. The Obama worshippers including the MSM are trying to paint slowing destruction as economic growth.
Meanwhile, more and more people are losing their jobs, folks are running out of unemployment benefits, banks are still closing and the economy keeps contracting. All Obama and his worshippers can seem to do is demonize the opposition and talk about "hope".
Hope does not pay the bills, and the world is quickly running out of patience with our profligate deficits spending.
Maybe it's time for the rest of the world to bail out the US for a change.
Fat chance.
211 | Lucius Septimius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:14:35am |
re: #206 3 wood
Hope does not pay the bills, and the world is quickly running out of patience with our profligate deficits spending.
Sure it does! Ya just gotta BELIEVE.
Remember, if you don't believe in faeries, Tinkerbell will die. And you don't want to kill Tinkerbell, do you?
212 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:14:59am |
re: #206 3 wood
There is a disconnect going on. The Obama worshippers including the MSM are trying to paint slowing destruction as economic growth.
Meanwhile, more and more people are losing their jobs, folks are running out of unemployment benefits, banks are still closing and the economy keeps contracting. All Obama and his worshippers can seem to do is demonize the opposition and talk about "hope".
Hope does not pay the bills, and the world is quickly running out of patience with our profligate deficits spending.
No argument from me on that. He's big at projecting all the "evil" on the republicans. I heard him say that the republicans are blocking his healthcare "reform". conveniently leaving out the fact that if he had all of his pary on board he doesn't need any of those horrible R's
213 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:15:59am |
re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar
Not bad...a couple of years ago, I managed to get to a day game between the Rockies and Padres at PETCO park- even tho' it went to extra innings, I still managed to walk to the Santa Fe depot in time to catch the train to Anaheim, where we showed up in time to catch the Red Sox taking BP at Angels stadium...(no football or hockey going on concurrently).
I also managed to get Bill Mueller (3rd baseman on the '04 Red Sox) and Teemu Sellane's autograph on the same day a little more recently...
214 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:17:26am |
re: #205 Irish Rose
Ow, not a good day for a pool party.
Hope ya got lots of food ;).You feeling better today?
Life is sweet Irish...My boy comes home from the Marines at 4pm on the 27th.
Plenty of food and cold beer here...It's a cool day but the pool is warm..
I thank God for the grace God has shown my family...I can't wait to kiss my son on the cheek and shake his hand and thank him for his service to our country..And keep him home here forever...
I am very proud of him this morning..
215 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:20:06am |
re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar
So the dealers ruin the engine of a car you trade in, then don't get their cash from the gubment, then want the new car back. Hmm. Sounds like everything is just ducky.
/
Good morning all. the Administartion is calling this failed program a success.
It's kind of like, "We do not know why Custer is unavailable for the victory parade."
216 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:20:16am |
re: #213 Fenway_Nation
I went to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals in 2004 and got the ticket signed by the coach (John Tortorella) and the captain (Dave Andrychuck). Also got my pic with the cup and a pic with the cup and coach. My friend used to run a local ice rink, so I didn't do anything special 'cept answer my phone.
217 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:20:26am |
re: #214 HoosierHoops
Life is sweet Irish...My boy comes home from the Marines at 4pm on the 27th.
Plenty of food and cold beer here...It's a cool day but the pool is warm..
I thank God for the grace God has shown my family...I can't wait to kiss my son on the cheek and shake his hand and thank him for his service to our country..And keep him home here forever...
I am very proud of him this morning..
I am too Hoops, and please tell him that I said so.
Is he coming home for good?
We're both going to have our Marines home at the same time, btw... my son is coming home for leave on the 27th too.
Hows' that for coincidence?
218 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:20:45am |
re: #214 HoosierHoops
I'm happy for you that your son is coming home. Thank him for me too.
219 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:22:18am |
re: #214 HoosierHoops
Life is sweet Irish...My boy comes home from the Marines at 4pm on the 27th.
Plenty of food and cold beer here...It's a cool day but the pool is warm..
I thank God for the grace God has shown my family...I can't wait to kiss my son on the cheek and shake his hand and thank him for his service to our country..And keep him home here forever...
I am very proud of him this morning..
That is wonderful.
220 | Pullus Iulius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:23:29am |
re: #206 3 wood
I see Bernanke announced that the economy was in the process of "leveling out." Trying to get us excited over setting the record for low altitude flight. Trouble is, you can only tie that record.
221 | Lucius Septimius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:23:41am |
One of the things that never ceases to amaze me about the Obama presidency is how a product of the most craven political machine in America could be packaged as "an outsider," a representative of new and principled governance. C'mon -- he inherited, but party fiat -- the Senate seat formerly held by Carol Mosely-Braun!
Much of Obama's trouble, methinks, derive from his Illinois experience. He isn't used to having to answer to anyone (least of all the public) aside from the small group of power brokers who decide who will get which seats from which districts before a vote is ever taken (remember that in Chicago, all that matters are the primary elections, and those are conducted along lines that would have made the Soviets envious). Now he actually has to face the fact that there is -- gasp! -- ANOTHER PARTY out there, and people who have the nerve to question the program he is fronting for.
That never happened in Chicago. And frankly, I think he honestly has no idea how to react.
222 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:26:27am |
re: #221 Lucius Septimius
One of the things that never ceases to amaze me about the Obama presidency is how a product of the most craven political machine in America could be packaged as "an outsider," a representative of new and principled governance. C'mon -- he inherited, but party fiat -- the Senate seat formerly held by Carol Mosely-Braun!
Much of Obama's trouble, methinks, derive from his Illinois experience. He isn't used to having to answer to anyone (least of all the public) aside from the small group of power brokers who decide who will get which seats from which districts before a vote is ever taken (remember that in Chicago, all that matters are the primary elections, and those are conducted along lines that would have made the Soviets envious). Now he actually has to face the fact that there is -- gasp! -- ANOTHER PARTY out there, and people who have the nerve to question the program he is fronting for.
That never happened in Chicago. And frankly, I think he honestly has no idea how to react.
But, but, but, he won.
223 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:26:51am |
re: #217 Irish Rose
I am too Hoops, and please tell him that I said so.
Is he coming home for good?We're both going to have our Marines home at the same time, btw... my son is coming home for leave on the 27th too.
Hows' that for coincidence?
Whoa..that is weird...Is your son is the 3/5? Jordan is out for good..He is going to be a policeman...I saw a picture of your Marine on your website..nice looking young man..you must be very proud
224 | Lucius Septimius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:27:54am |
re: #215 opnion
Good morning all. the Administartion is calling this failed program a success.
It's kind of like, "We do not know why Custer is unavailable for the victory parade."
AP -- Washington -- June 26 1876. The White House announced today a stunning success in the Montana Territory. General George C. Custer successfully diverted a large number of Indians from making indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets. Reports also state that in the aftermath of Gen'l Custer's campaign "The Indians are running desperately short of ammunition; their warriors are exhausted." A spokesman summed up the situation by saying "The success of this operation, distracting and disarming the opposition, is a clear indication of the success of our current policy."
225 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:27:55am |
re: #209 Cannadian Club Akbar
So the dealers ruin the engine of a car you trade in, then don't get their cash from the gubment, then want the new car back. Hmm. Sounds like everything is just ducky.
And this gang wants to take over your health care.
226 | Ay, Caramba Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:28:26am |
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.women.
227 | Lucius Septimius Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:28:55am |
re: #222 Cannadian Club Akbar
But, but, but, he won.
Precisely. That should have settled the matter, right?
Daddy Daley would never have put up with these protesters -- he knew how to deal with uppity people carrying signs.
228 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:29:16am |
re: #210 Spare O'Lake
Maybe it's time for the rest of the world to bail out the US for a change.
Fat chance.
They have been buying our debt up, but that is coming to a halt. You will see interest rates climbing by the end of the year, I think.
229 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:30:50am |
re: #221 Lucius Septimius
The good news is that the "Obama" Senate seat is in serious jepordy.
The Dems look like they might have a divisive primary with the Tresurer Alexi Genulious, who funnled money to the mob from his family bank & Lisa Madigan the Attorney General.
Congressman Kirk will be the Repuiblican cadidate. He is a Reserve Naval Officer with recent active duty & squeaky clesn.
230 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:31:04am |
re: #225 3 wood
And this gang wants to take over your health care.
I don't see doctors very often. The last tme I did I got cholesterol medication and that put me in the ER (it was 1 AM, no walk in clinics open) I just don't want to pay for refusing gubment healthcare.
231 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:31:57am |
re: #220 Pullus Iulius
I see Bernanke announced that the economy was in the process of "leveling out." Trying to get us excited over setting the record for low altitude flight. Trouble is, you can only tie that record.
I think he was also telegraphing that he is out of bullets and will soon have to start raising the discount rate and turning down the spigot of money.
He has to, we won't be able to sell our debt if he does not.
232 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:32:37am |
re: #224 Lucius Septimius
AP -- Washington -- June 26 1876. The White House announced today a stunning success in the Montana Territory. General George C. Custer successfully diverted a large number of Indians from making indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets. Reports also state that in the aftermath of Gen'l Custer's campaign "The Indians are running desperately short of ammunition; their warriors are exhausted." A spokesman summed up the situation by saying "The success of this operation, distracting and disarming the opposition, is a clear indication of the success of our current policy."
See all is well.
233 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:36:44am |
Hey Hoops & Rose,
Thank you for yours for your families perseverance and, of course, the boys for their service.
234 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:37:38am |
Chicago Cubs Sold to TD Ameritrade’s Ricketts for $845 Million
The Chicago Cubs baseball team, which hasn’t won a World Series in more than 100 years, will be acquired by the family of TD Ameritrade Holding Corp. founder Joe Ricketts for $845 million.
The sale by Chicago-based Tribune Co., the newspaper publisher driven to bankruptcy last year by debt and falling ad sales, requires the approval of Major League Baseball’s owners and the court, the parties said yesterday in a statement.
They still won't win unless the ownership spends the money to develop a good minor league feeder system for the team and hire some more competent scouts.
And Wrigley is just too old and small to support that kind of an operation.
236 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:38:26am |
re: #223 HoosierHoops
Whoa..that is weird...Is your son is the 3/5? Jordan is out for good..He is going to be a policeman...I saw a picture of your Marine on your website..nice looking young man..you must be very proud
Yes I sure am.
He has a year left to go and is thinking he probably won't re-up, he wants to marry his best girl and get some schooling. And he misses the folks back home even more than we miss him.
I have him home for a couple of weeks, and then he's back out to San Diego. They may send him out again on deployment, they may keep him at Miramar working on the aviation team there until his stint is up - hard to know at this point.
237 | Killian Bundy Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:39:34am |
Obama's aiming to double it. Add $2.5+ trillion for health care "reform" and cap & trade.
/this is easily the most serious threat to this country that I've seen in my lifetime
239 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:41:51am |
re: #234 3 wood
Chicago Cubs Sold to TD Ameritrade’s Ricketts for $845 Million
They still won't win unless the ownership spends the money to develop a good minor league feeder system for the team and hire some more competent scouts.And Wrigley is just too old and small to support that kind of an operation.
A new Cub ecxuse is born, they now have Rickets.
The cubs have a tradition of losing & their fans have embraced it, "loveable losers". They actually do not have to win, it goes beyond baseball, it is a cultural experience. They fill the park no matter what.
The White Sox on the other hand have been more successful in modern times but play second fiddle to the Cubs.
240 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:42:03am |
re: #236 Irish Rose
Here's hoping he gets to stay a little closer to home for his last year.
241 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:42:21am |
re: #237 Killian Bundy
Our share is $38,226.53 each. CHANGE!!! Pony up, lizards!!
242 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:43:21am |
re: #241 Cannadian Club Akbar
Our share is $38,226.53 each. CHANGE!!! Pony up, lizards!!
Pardon me, I think I'm going to add some booze to my coffee this morning.
BRB.
243 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:44:01am |
re: #242 Irish Rose
Pardon me, I think I'm going to add some booze to my coffee this morning.
BRB.
I love you.
244 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:44:45am |
245 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:46:58am |
re: #244 Irish Rose
Booze at your house and Hoops is having a beer/BBQ/ pool party. Decisions, decisions.
247 | Digital Display Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:49:20am |
re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar
Booze at your house and Hoops is having a beer/BBQ/ pool party. Decisions, decisions.
Cute girls in bikinis at 1 pm..please...
248 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:49:48am |
Rifqa Barry, the 17 year old convert to Christianiy from Islam is being granted foster homeing in Florida until things get sorted out.
She says that she left home because she fears an honor killing. Her parents say that they don not believe in that practice. Any thoughts?
249 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:50:19am |
Michigan Unemployment Remains Highest In The Nation
Michigan's unemployment rate remains the highest in the nation, despite a small dip in the jobless rate last month.
Official figure is 15 percent. When you factor in all of the people who have dropped off the rolls, we figure the percentage here in Michigan is closer to 25 percent, perhaps higher.
If you're a low income worker, or have a background in manufacturing, then you're pretty much screwed.
250 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:53:13am |
re: #249 Irish Rose
Michigan Unemployment Remains Highest In The Nation
Official figure is 15 percent. When you factor in all of the people who have dropped off the rolls, we figure the percentage here in Michigan is closer to 25 percent, perhaps higher.If you're a low income worker, or have a background in manufacturing, then you're pretty much screwed.
Illinois has hit double digit unemployment. Illinois is considered a bellweather, so this can't be good
251 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:53:17am |
re: #242 Irish Rose
Pardon me, I think I'm going to add some booze to my coffee this morning.
BRB.
Help yourselves to a cup of joe
Morning Lizards. Enjoy. How's everyone this morning?
252 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:53:30am |
re: #248 opnion
If they (muslims) convert they are considered apostates, that is punishable by death. This religion seems to be of the thought that they must spill blood of the "offender" to preserve their honor.
253 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:54:03am |
re: #248 opnion
Rifqa Barry, the 17 year old convert to Christianiy from Islam is being granted foster homeing in Florida until things get sorted out.
She says that she left home because she fears an honor killing. Her parents say that they don not believe in that practice. Any thoughts?
IIRC, even if she was to go home, a judge there could have put her in protective custody. And I think she met the preacher guy through Facebook or something.
254 | BignJames Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:54:26am |
257 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:57:37am |
re: #248 opnion
Rifqa Barry, the 17 year old convert to Christianiy from Islam is being granted foster homeing in Florida until things get sorted out.
She says that she left home because she fears an honor killing. Her parents say that they don not believe in that practice. Any thoughts?
I don't often agree with Pamela because I tend to think she's a nutcase, but she is right on this one. The girl should not be forced to return home if she has any reasonable fear that her life might be in danger.
Our courts are simply not prepared for legislation in these matters and moving slowly on a final decision is the right thing to do.
I do however, think that it's important to take a hard look at the "pastor" who persuaded her to leave her family and harbored her. This is not the first time that he has done this sort of thing, and his integrity and motives IMO less than pure and rather suspect.
258 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:57:58am |
re: #251 midwestgak
Help yourselves to a cup of joe
Morning Lizards. Enjoy. How's everyone this morning?
Still here.
259 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 5:59:31am |
re: #252 bbuddha
re: #253 Cannadian Club Akbar
IIRC, even if she was to go home, a judge there could have put her in protective custody. And I think she met the preacher guy through Facebook or something.
Yup, she found the=is Christian group on Facebook, what kind of inluence do they have on her.
Honor killing is definitely a Muslim thing, but not all Muslim fathers believe in it. She is an apostate, but that doesn't prove that pops wants to kill her.
She claims that her father punched her while driving. The government has to be very careful, is she an imppessionable teenager , or are her fears founded?
260 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:01:24am |
re: #257 Irish Rose
I don't often agree with Pamela because I tend to think she's a nutcase, but she is right on this one. The girl should not be forced to return home if she has any reasonable fear that her life might be in danger.
Our courts are simply not prepared for legislation in these matters and moving slowly on a final decision is the right thing to do.
I do however, think that it's important to take a hard look at the "pastor" who persuaded her to leave her family and harbored her. This is not the first time that he has done this sort of thing, and his integrity and motives IMO less than pure and rather suspect.
Yeah, you're right on, the kids safety is most important, but I would really want a good look at this pastor.
261 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:01:54am |
re: #250 opnion
Illinois has hit double digit unemployment. Illinois is considered a bellweather, so this can't be good
And I likely will be an addition to that number. Word at work is that our Dept. is being shut down. Just waiting on the official notification.
Oh well, I can probably get hired on as a quarterback for the Vikings. They have shown that they will hire any aging retiree with a bad right shoulder as QB.
262 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:02:14am |
re: #248 opnion
Rifqa Barry, the 17 year old convert to Christianiy from Islam is being granted foster homeing in Florida until things get sorted out.
She says that she left home because she fears an honor killing. Her parents say that they don not believe in that practice. Any thoughts?
When I was a teenager I would not have run away without a reason. Things weren't always pleasant, but had no reason to fear for my life. Honor killing has happened here as we have all learned. More common in Europe.
263 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:02:16am |
re: #259 opnion
The biggest problem in dealing with Muslims (broad brush) is that you can't believe their soothing words. Their religion deems it OK to lie to non muslims
/personal experience
264 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:03:13am |
265 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:03:24am |
re: #237 Killian Bundy
Obama's aiming to double it. Add $2.5+ trillion for health care "reform" and cap & trade.
/this is easily the most serious threat to this country that I've seen in my lifetime
just a bit of miscalculation, nothing calculating or intentional...BO and the dems would not damage the economy
266 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:07:31am |
re: #261 3 wood
And I likely will be an addition to that number. Word at work is that our Dept. is being shut down. Just waiting on the official notification.
Oh well, I can probably get hired on as a quarterback for the Vikings. They have shown that they will hire any aging retiree with a bad right shoulder as QB.
I am sorry to hear that. I was with a tech company some years back that got sold. We were let go & the job hunt was not pretty.
It was a shock, since we were led to believe that we would be left in tact. I would advise you to start networking now, so that if things go bad, you have a head start. I wish that I would have had a heads up.
267 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:08:05am |
re: #265 albusteve
just a bit of miscalculation, nothing calculating or intentional...BO and the dems would not damage the economy
The increase to the deficit announced yesterday has effectively killed the public option, I think.
There is no way they can get the votes now to add tothe deficit that much.
But watch for the MSM to try to save their Messiah. I bet you start seeing stories downplaying the impact of a huge deficit, and trying to minimize how bad unemployment is.
268 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:08:15am |
re: #260 opnion
Yeah, you're right on, the kids safety is most important, but I would really want a good look at this pastor.
Apparently this isn't the first time that Blake Lorenz has done this type of thing.
269 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:08:21am |
re: #261 3 wood
And I likely will be an addition to that number. Word at work is that our Dept. is being shut down. Just waiting on the official notification.
Oh well, I can probably get hired on as a quarterback for the Vikings. They have shown that they will hire any aging retiree with a bad right shoulder as QB.
If you can pitch and are left handed teams will throw money at you.
270 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:10:44am |
re: #267 3 wood
The increase to the deficit announced yesterday has effectively killed the public option, I think.
There is no way they can get the votes now to add tothe deficit that much.
But watch for the MSM to try to save their Messiah. I bet you start seeing stories downplaying the impact of a huge deficit, and trying to minimize how bad unemployment is.
Isn't it funny how when the Democrats can't unite behind this awful bill, the MSM talks about how lack of cooperation by Republicans is killing health care insurance reform.
271 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:10:52am |
re: #266 opnion
I am sorry to hear that. I was with a tech company some years back that got sold. We were let go & the job hunt was not pretty.
It was a shock, since we were led to believe that we would be left in tact. I would advise you to start networking now, so that if things go bad, you have a head start. I wish that I would have had a heads up.
Already have been. I'll be OK, I have a pension coming in from my previous career. I'm actually working on starting up my own business, and along with adjunct teaching should do alright.
I'm tired of working for other people and having my career diverted cause those other people make a bad decision and they have to cut the budget to make up the difference.
272 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:11:32am |
re: #262 midwestgak
re: #263 bbuddha
re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar
There are parental rights here, but you have to take the young girl seriously, unless things are proven otherwise.
The threat that she feels is not loss of driving priveleges, but her very life.
I hope that the father gets really vetted. He may be very moderate , but maybe not.
273 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:12:06am |
re: #269 soxfan4life
If you can pitch and are left handed teams will throw money at you.
Same for being a left handed catcher.
274 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:12:37am |
re: #267 3 wood
The increase to the deficit announced yesterday has effectively killed the public option, I think.
There is no way they can get the votes now to add tothe deficit that much.
But watch for the MSM to try to save their Messiah. I bet you start seeing stories downplaying the impact of a huge deficit, and trying to minimize how bad unemployment is.
the MSM is the key to the whole charade as I see it...and they are already feeling the stretch...such a massive cover to sustain just does not seem possible to me...I have believed from day one BO will trash the economy to put his reforms in place
275 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:13:40am |
re: #270 soxfan4life
Isn't it funny how when the Democrats can't unite behind this awful bill, the MSM talks about how lack of cooperation by Republicans is killing health care insurance reform.
It's all the MSM knows how to do. Many of them used to work in lefty political campaigns.
We certainly can't expect them to, well, report the facts. It's all a shill game to them.
276 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:13:56am |
re: #268 Irish Rose
Apparently this isn't the first time that Blake Lorenz has done this type of thing.
Rose, this Pastor no doubt has real influence on her, but I would be more interested in pops.
My the way, you'll like this, we have a new puppy, Brady Buru Quinn.
277 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:14:11am |
re: #273 3 wood
Same for being a left handed catcher.
I played catcher as a kid and left handed mitts weren't cheap, so I caught with a regular glove. Ouch.
278 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:14:27am |
I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.— Richard Feynman
The price paid for ignoring the Turtle Stack!
Morning Honcos!
This pot of coffee fresh?
279 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:15:15am |
re: #274 albusteve
I have believed from day one BO will trash the economy to put his reforms in place
Of course, I am convinced that they do not care one iota for trying to improve the economy, it's all about installing their left wing, big government agenda.
280 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:15:26am |
re: #276 opnion
Rose, this Pastor no doubt has real influence on her, but I would be more interested in pops.
My the way, you'll like this, we have a new puppy, Brady Buru Quinn.
Cute name. What breed?
281 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:15:54am |
re: #277 Cannadian Club Akbar
I played catcher as a kid and left handed mitts weren't cheap, so I caught with a regular glove. Ouch.
You had gloves? You must have come from the rich side of town!
;-)
282 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:16:56am |
re: #279 3 wood
Of course, I am convinced that they do not care one iota for trying to improve the economy, it's all about installing their left wing, big government agenda.
DING!
With Obama increases we already are at the government consuming 45% of the GDP, add health care and it will be over 50%.
283 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:17am |
re: #271 3 wood
Already have been. I'll be OK, I have a pension coming in from my previous career. I'm actually working on starting up my own business, and along with adjunct teaching should do alright.
I'm tired of working for other people and having my career diverted cause those other people make a bad decision and they have to cut the budget to make up the difference.
Interesting that you say that. I am meeting with several other people in a couple of weeks to explore our own business, rather late in life.
I really don't want to retire for quite a while, but I have spent my career making money for someone else & they walk away with a sack of cash.
284 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:34am |
re: #281 jcm
You had gloves? You must have come from the rich side of town!
;-)
Actually, it was an empty cereal box I stole from someones garbage.
/
285 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:59am |
re: #272 opnion
re: #263 bbuddha
re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar
There are parental rights here, but you have to take the young girl seriously, unless things are proven otherwise.
The threat that she feels is not loss of driving priveleges, but her very life.
I hope that the father gets really vetted. He may be very moderate , but maybe not.
Not just the father. The entire family, male and female.
The family attends a mosque that has a reputation for extremism.
The girl states that going back home would be a death sentence.
I believe her.
286 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:18:06am |
George Will...
Do they hope that state capitalism will be irreversible -- that wherever government has asserted the primacy of politics, the primacy will be permanent?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
287 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:18:23am |
morning lizards.
From the These People Make Me Puke We should Deport Them;
Get a load of Alexandra Fuller, Brit expat living in the wild nether reaches of the U.S.
You can never really know what the future holds. My eldest daughter was born in Africa. When she started school in Wyoming she insisted she was black. On Martin Luther King Day she stood at the front of the classroom with the only African-American student in her grade. She’s 16 now and very intolerant of the surface stuff that interests a lot of Americans.
[ ]
President Obama shifted how we define ourselves. He’s that rare leader that transcends race and gender. He’s in it for the infinite. We have the opportunity to change limiting attitudes. I think Obama’s candidacy drew poison to the surface of US society. A volatile minority’s identity is threatened by Obama’s obvious abilities.
[ ]
But after 15 years of living in the US I realise that the American Dream is a myth. Americans have yet to reconcile themselves with the fact that people are not born equal. I don’t think capitalism and democracy are easy bedfellows.
(translation: I've failed so it's all vapor)
288 | 3 wood Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:18:41am |
re: #277 Cannadian Club Akbar
I played catcher as a kid and left handed mitts weren't cheap, so I caught with a regular glove. Ouch.
When I played at catcher in college I used my 1st basemen's mitt. It was legal then (infielder's mitt) and I found it more easy to pick up pitches in the dirt.
289 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:18:53am |
re: #277 Cannadian Club Akbar
I played catcher as a kid and left handed mitts weren't cheap, so I caught with a regular glove. Ouch.
IIRC the deckers were great for backstopping but lousy for playing other positions.
290 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:19:24am |
re: #280 midwestgak
Cute name. What breed?
He is a Portuguese water dog & belongs to my College attending daughter.
That of Course means that I clean the yard & my wife & I take care of him, since she is at school.
292 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:20:08am |
re: #287 wahabicorridor
morning lizards.
From the These People Make Me Puke We should Deport Them;
Get a load of Alexandra Fuller, Brit expat living in the wild nether reaches of the U.S.
Then why is she still here if it's so g-damn awful?
293 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:21:12am |
re: #285 Irish Rose
Not just the father. The entire family, male and female.
The family attends a mosque that has a reputation for extremism.The girl states that going back home would be a death sentence.
I believe her.
An extremist mosque! I didn't know that, game, set , match, case closed.
Emancipate the girl & give her protection with an order of protection
294 | Killian Bundy Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:21:13am |
re: #282 jcm
With Obama increases we already are at the government consuming 45% of the GDP, add health care and it will be over 50%.
/unless we turn this trend around quickly, it's only a matter of time before the U.S. loses its AAA credit rating, defaults on its debt, and spirals into economic collapse
295 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:22:14am |
re: #292 jcm
Then why is she still here if it's so g-damn awful?
The same reason Alec Baldwin did leave when Bush was elected?
296 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:22:21am |
re: #285 Irish Rose
That said however, I do think that Pamela is exploiting this story for the headlines and setting herself up publicly as some kind of "champion of justice". She may be right on the issue, but IMO she's still a shameless self-promoter who only cares about Muslim women if they are willing to assimilate into western society or convert. If they don't, she has just as much contempt for them as she does for the men.
I don't have a lot of respect for that.
297 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:22:55am |
re: #292 jcm
Then why is she still here if it's so g-damn awful?
Well, you must remember all the Hollywood peeps who threatened to leave if Bush was reelected in '04. They never did.
298 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:23:03am |
re: #292 jcm
Then why is she still here if it's so g-damn awful?
She needs something to feel superior to. She spent a lot of time in Zimbabwe but things there - um - didn't work out so well.
299 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:23:23am |
re: #262 midwestgak
When I was a teenager I would not have run away without a reason. Things weren't always pleasant, but had no reason to fear for my life. Honor killing has happened here as we have all learned. More common in Europe.
The duty here is to protect the kid.
300 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:24:31am |
re: #295 midwestgak
The same reason Alec Baldwin
diddidn't leave when Bush was elected?
Negatives make such a big difference. arg
301 | quickjustice Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:24:42am |
re: #287 wahabicorridor
She really should move back to England where she'll be happy. As for Barack Obama, he was elected President of the United States with overwhelming Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, proving that race no longer matters for American voters.
Obama will stand or fall on his own merits, regardless of his race. I didn't support him, but race was irrelevant to my calculations.
302 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:24:51am |
re: #295 midwestgak
The same reason Alec Baldwin did leave when Bush was elected?
Bill Whittle in one of essay asked a simple question.
Where are the rafts heading?
Meaning given a chance to go anywhere where would most people in the world go?
303 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:25:38am |
The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened... I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.
304 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:26:06am |
re: #298 wahabicorridor
She needs something to feel superior to. She spent a lot of time in Zimbabwe but things there - um - didn't work out so well.
Chompskitus. Since American isn't perfect, it's not better than anyplace else.
305 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:27:33am |
re: #303 wahabicorridor
The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened... I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.
Reagan used that in his Time for Choosing Speech.
306 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:27:49am |
re: #301 quickjustice
She really should move back to England where she'll be happy. As for Barack Obama, he was elected President of the United States with overwhelming Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, proving that race no longer matters for American voters.
Obama will stand or fall on his own merits, regardless of his race. I didn't support him, but race was irrelevant to my calculations.
Of all the things that I don't like about Obama, race is not one of them
Basically race is a straw man that the Dems use to try to deflect criticism. By the way, he can't bowl or throw a baseball, that right there disqualifies him for us less enlightened types.
307 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:19am |
[Link: www.allamericanpatriots.com...]
keep a close eye on this bill...it will determine what happens to the TARP companies...GM, AIG etc
308 | CommonCents Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:27am |
re: #276 opnion
Rose, this Pastor no doubt has real influence on her, but I would be more interested in pops.
My the way, you'll like this, we have a new puppy, Brady Buru Quinn.
Browns fan or Notre Dame?
309 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:07am |
re: #301 quickjustice
I didn't support him, but race was irrelevant to my calculations.
But not to Ms. Fuller's. When your lily-white kid tries to gain moral superiority by claiming she's black, and then is characterized by the mother her raised her as beiing "very intolerant of the surface stuff that interests a lot of Americans." the calculus is brazenly evident.
310 | quickjustice Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:33am |
re: #296 Irish Rose
"Pamela's" opinion doesn't matter. And as for "assimilation", I think it is what keeps America one nation. If we aren't assimilating our immigrants, we are failing them and ourselves.
311 | Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:30am |
re: #296 Irish Rose
That said however, I do think that Pamela is exploiting this story for the headlines and setting herself up publicly as some kind of "champion of justice". She may be right on the issue, but IMO she's still a shameless self-promoter who only cares about Muslim women if they are willing to assimilate into western society or convert. If they don't, she has just as much contempt for them as she does for the men.
I don't have a lot of respect for that.
Pamela or no Pamela, Muslim or not, man or woman - any immigrant from any medieval, undemocratic, violent, hate-filled culture must leave their stinking baggage behind if they wish to be accepted in their new chosen country.
312 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:52am |
re: #308 CommonCents
Browns fan or Notre Dame?
Notre Dame, but actually my daughter is more of a Brady Quinn fan in general , as are her friends. He is a good looking kid.
The Boru , I'm sure that you have guessed is for Brian Buru.
315 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:31:06am |
Morning, everyone. Quick drive-by posting (unless my sisters take longer to get back than I expect). We're all in Indiana, gearing up to clean out Dad's house. This is going to be a nasty business, I must say. The refrigerator is going to be hauled away unopened; we've ordered a dumpster and I really don't know how much we're going to be able to salvage. Thankfully, we have electricity and water, so the air conditioner is going to be turned on ASAP!
If you feel so inclined, prayers for a multiplication of our efforts (so instead of this taking two weeks, we can do it in about four days) would be wonderful.
316 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:33:19am |
re: #310 quickjustice
"Pamela's" opinion doesn't matter. And as for "assimilation", I think it is what keeps America one nation. If we aren't assimilating our immigrants, we are failing them and ourselves.
I take your point, but one must want assimilation to be assimilated.
It is an unfortunate fact that there is some resistance.
318 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:33:39am |
re: #276 opnion
Rose, this Pastor no doubt has real influence on her, but I would be more interested in pops.
My the way, you'll like this, we have a new puppy, Brady Buru Quinn.
Heh. Very cool :).
My real parents are both Irish but I never knew them. I did have my bloodline traced some years back, and it seems that I'm actually a direct descendant of Brian mac Cennétig. Probably why I'm such a feisty, stubborn, sharp-tongued hardass.
What kind of puppy didja get?
319 | quickjustice Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:33:52am |
re: #309 wahabicorridor
It's really mental illness when a white child claims to be black. It also suggests that child abuse is lurking here somewhere. It reminds me of parents who raise their kids to worship Hitler. The same sort of pathology.
She's clearly an unfit mother, and she's exposing that publicly. I hope someone notifies the authorities.
321 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:34:07am |
re: #307 albusteve
[Link: www.allamericanpatriots.com...]
keep a close eye on this bill...it will determine what happens to the TARP companies...GM, AIG etc
I just looked that up on Thomas. Looks like it's stalled in committee - only 5 cosponsors
322 | CommonCents Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:34:23am |
re: #305 jcm
Greatest clip of all time. I wish we could get a Republican that could deliver like that.
323 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:34:37am |
racism...alive and well, with ah...blacks!
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
324 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:35:02am |
325 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:35:39am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (76 degrees going up to 86 degrees) cloudy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone and who is LGF "reader" Keith G - top of page, Charles credits him with compiling the best of our health care questions - did a search and didn't find any comments by him?
326 | quickjustice Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:35:57am |
re: #316 opnion
Resistance is futile! Or as our grandparents used to say, "How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm, once they've seen Paree!"
327 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:36:00am |
re: #316 opnion
I take your point, but one must want assimilation to be assimilated.
It is an unfortunate fact that there is some resistance.
You have to ask, why did they come here? It's pretty ballsy (not in a good way) to move to a country and then try to make them into what you left.
328 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:36:17am |
re: #315 vxbush
Morning, everyone. Quick drive-by posting (unless my sisters take longer to get back than I expect). We're all in Indiana, gearing up to clean out Dad's house. This is going to be a nasty business, I must say. The refrigerator is going to be hauled away unopened; we've ordered a dumpster and I really don't know how much we're going to be able to salvage. Thankfully, we have electricity and water, so the air conditioner is going to be turned on ASAP!
If you feel so inclined, prayers for a multiplication of our efforts (so instead of this taking two weeks, we can do it in about four days) would be wonderful.
I had to do that when my mom passed away... ugh.
Take frequent food/drink breaks and head off any temper flares with humor, my advice to you.
330 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:36:41am |
re: #323 albusteve
racism...alive and well, with ah...blacks!
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
What "black media outlets" is he referring to in that story? What media entity is considered "black"? (Besides BET, but that's not a news company, in theory.)
331 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:37:07am |
Senator J. William Fullbright.
Speech given at Stanford in 1961
re: #322 CommonCents
Greatest clip of all time. I wish we could get a Republican that could deliver like that.
Up date the budget numbers. That speech still is valid today.
332 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:37:30am |
re: #321 wahabicorridor
I just looked that up on Thomas. Looks like it's stalled in committee - only 5 cosponsors
not good...this should have been included in the TARP legislation...why wasn't it?
333 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:37:40am |
re: #328 Irish Rose
I had to do that when my mom passed away... ugh.
Take frequent food/drink breaks and head off any temper flares with humor, my advice to you.
Thanks for the advice. My only issue right now is that I'm the type of person who is ready to get going at 8:00, and the oldest is the one who isn't ready to go until 11:00. So I'm sitting here, twiddling my thumbs while the morning disappears and we waste valuable time.
334 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:38:15am |
re: #318 Irish Rose
re: #276 opnion
Heh. Very cool :).My real parents are both Irish but I never knew them. I did have my bloodline traced some years back, and it seems that I'm actually a direct descendant of Brian mac Cennétig. Probably why I'm such a feisty, stubborn, sharp-tongued hardass.
What kind of puppy didja get?
Brady,is a Portuguese Water Dog, actually the second that we have had.
A classic Water dog is black with white markings. He is mostly white with black markings, real cute pup.
I had forgotten how much energy puppies have. This guy is going to be a real good frisbee dog.
335 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:38:44am |
re: #325 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warm (76 degrees going up to 86 degrees) cloudy and overcast Charlotte!
Morning, Real. I'm going to give the Shultz answer: I. Know. Nothing.
336 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:38:52am |
Minerva was the goddess of wisdom, but on one occasion she did a very foolish thing; she entered into competition with Juno and Venus for the prize of beauty.
It happened thus: At the nuptials of Peleus and Thetis, all the gods were invited, with the exception of Eris, or Discord. Enraged at her exclusion, the goddess threw a golden apple among the guests with the inscription, "For the most beautiful." Thereupon Juno, Venus, and Minerva each claimed the apple.
Jupiter, not willing to decide in so delicate a matter, sent the goddesses to Mount Ida, where the beautiful shepherd Paris was tending his flocks, and to him was committed the decision. The goddesses accordingly appeared before him. Juno promised him power and riches, Minerva glory and renown in war, and Venus the fairest of women for his wife, each attempting to bias his decision in her own favor.
Paris decided in favor of Venus and gave her the golden apple, thus making the two other goddesses his enemies. Under the protection of Venus, Paris sailed to Greece, and was hospitably received by Menelaus, the king of Sparta. Now Helen, the wife of Menelaus, was the very woman whom Venus had destined for Paris, the fairest of her sex. She had been sought as a bride by numerous suitors, and before her decision was made known, they all, at the suggestion of Ulysses (one of their number) took an oath that they would defend her from all injury and avenge her cause if necessary. She chose Menelaus, and was living with him happily when Paris became their guest. Paris, aided by Venus, persuaded her to elope with him, and carried her to Troy, whence arose the famous Trojan war, the theme of the greatest poems of antiquity, those of Homer and Virgil.
Only a maladjusted "angry atheist" could find folly in this.
337 | quickjustice Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:39:00am |
re: #331 jcm
One of the old Democrat hawks. They don't exist anymore. Bill Clinton's mentor. A hawk on foreign policy, and a socialist at home.
338 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:39:23am |
re: #329 Irish Rose
Good morning to you Rose! How are ya today?
339 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:39:42am |
re: #325 realwest
Good Morning. Sounds like we'll be having very similar weather today. When I woke up the dew point matched the temp YUCK, but the humidity is falling a bit
340 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:40:08am |
re: #326 quickjustice
Resistance is futile! Or as our grandparents used to say, "How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm, once they've seen Paree!"
Yeah, younger generations do want to be part of the prevailing culture.
I see young Muslim women with the head scarf, but with skin tight jeans & make up.
341 | lincolntf Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:40:16am |
Morning all.
Is President Wee-Wee on vacation yet? God I hope so.
I was reading the Drudge stories and a few others about the UK releasing that murdering terrorist in exchange for oil/trade deals. Sounded like a conspiracy theory until it started making sense. Anyone else have a take on that?
342 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:40:28am |
344 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:41:13am |
re: #341 lincolntf
Morning all.
Is President Wee-Wee on vacation yet? God I hope so.I was reading the Drudge stories and a few others about the UK releasing that murdering terrorist in exchange for oil/trade deals. Sounded like a conspiracy theory until it started making sense. Anyone else have a take on that?
Have you been on the lookout for the black helicopters?
/
345 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:41:27am |
re: #333 vxbush
We'll try to be good company till the rest are ready to go.
346 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:41:50am |
347 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:13am |
re: #319 quickjustice
She's clearly an unfit mother,
Well, there may be some hope. Her son sounds like he might have a clue.
My 11-year-old son wants to be president of the US. He was born in the US and he’s very attached to the place. His political beliefs more closely resemble those of his country-club-going American grandparents than my views. Our differences were brought out during a family trip to Ellis Island. I got very emotional thinking about the people who had fled their lands to seek a new life in the US. Embarrassed by my tears, my son reminded me that his American ancestors were yacht people, not boat people, and that I had arrived on a commercial aeroplane.
348 | CommonCents Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:18am |
re: #337 quickjustice
One of the old Democrat hawks. They don't exist anymore. Bill Clinton's mentor. A hawk on foreign policy, and a socialist at home.
He must not have been a very good teacher. Didn't Bill run off to Canada.
349 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:31am |
re: #335 vxbush
Hey {vxbush} What. Do. You. Mean. And why are we putting periods after one word?!
350 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:36am |
re: #333 vxbush
Thanks for the advice. My only issue right now is that I'm the type of person who is ready to get going at 8:00, and the oldest is the one who isn't ready to go until 11:00. So I'm sitting here, twiddling my thumbs while the morning disappears and we waste valuable time.
There's always one in the bunch who insists on holding things up
You'll get it all done, try to not let it get to ya.
351 | Ojoe Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:41am |
352 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:03am |
re: #316 opnion
I take your point, but one must want assimilation to be assimilated.
It is an unfortunate fact that there is some resistance.
This is a real threat in Europe. And coming to the US. Ask American citizens in some parts of Michigan.
"Islamic lands that were occupied by the enemies will once again become Islamic...We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, and as it will be conquered again."
- Ali Al-Faqir, the Jordanian Minister for Religious Endowment
Britain, birthplace of parliamentary democracy, has fallen to Islam. Oxford, once home to the likes of C.S. Lewis, now houses a giant Eastern Islamic Studies Center. If this were the only Islamic addition to Oxford, the mood would be less somber, but when Oxford citizens are forced to awake every morning to the Muslim call to prayer with the full consent of the Church of England, nothing short of conquest has taken place.
Britain's Muslim demographic is now so dominant that the British government recently began to allow Islamic civil and religious law, known as Sharia, to be enforced along side British law.
But if religious tolerance is good, why is this a problem? Simple-this is not an issue of religious liberty. Islam is not designed to co-exist with western civilization. It is designed to conquer it.
353 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:05am |
re: #344 vxbush
Have you been on the lookout for the black helicopters?
/
354 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:58am |
re: #345 bbuddha
We'll try to be good company till the rest are ready to go.
You're awesome. They're back and they're trying to get the teenagers moving. Cattle prods may be brought out.
355 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:44:22am |
NM, corruption capital of the west...they used to say you get your degree in Illinois and your PhD in New Mexico...it never ends, and it's always democrats
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
356 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:45:03am |
re: #341 lincolntf
Morning all.
Is President Wee-Wee on vacation yet? God I hope so.I was reading the Drudge stories and a few others about the UK releasing that murdering terrorist in exchange for oil/trade deals. Sounded like a conspiracy theory until it started making sense. Anyone else have a take on that?
There's a bribe SOMEWHERE - that's all I know.
357 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:45:06am |
re: #339 bbuddha
Hi there bbuddha! Well our humidity is high now and rising - I expect it's the effect of Bill - supposed to get a LOT of rain today!
358 | vxbush Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:45:37am |
re: #349 realwest
Hey {vxbush} What. Do. You. Mean. And why are we putting periods after one word?!
You know, Sargeant Schultz from Hogan Heroes? "I know NUTH-ING!" That's my response to your question about who the question aggregator is.
359 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:12am |
re: #352 midwestgak
This is a real threat in Europe. And coming to the US. Ask American citizens in some parts of Michigan.
Yes, and our governor is working hard to bring the Gitmo detainees to our prisons here.
Bad idea.
360 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:31am |
re: #354 vxbush
LOL Try cans of Monster, teens love it and it makes them want to move.
361 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:47:08am |
re: #342 Irish Rose
Still here.
Then there's still hope! (unless by "here" you mean Michigan in which case there isn't much hope left!).
362 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:47:24am |
re: #352 midwestgak
This is a real threat in Europe. And coming to the US. Ask American citizens in some parts of Michigan.
"Islamic lands that were occupied by the enemies will once again become Islamic...We proclaim that we will conquer Rome, like Constantinople was conquered once, and as it will be conquered again."
- Ali Al-Faqir, the Jordanian Minister for Religious Endowment
Britain, birthplace of parliamentary democracy, has fallen to Islam. Oxford, once home to the likes of C.S. Lewis, now houses a giant Eastern Islamic Studies Center. If this were the only Islamic addition to Oxford, the mood would be less somber, but when Oxford citizens are forced to awake every morning to the Muslim call to prayer with the full consent of the Church of England, nothing short of conquest has taken place.Britain's Muslim demographic is now so dominant that the British government recently began to allow Islamic civil and religious law, known as Sharia, to be enforced along side British law.
But if religious tolerance is good, why is this a problem? Simple-this is not an issue of religious liberty. Islam is not designed to co-exist with western civilization. It is designed to conquer it.
people won't believe that...too many apologists in America, and of course we have the 1st they will hide behind, just like the Neo Nazis do
363 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:47:28am |
Obama calls for 'honest debate' on health care
President Barack Obama is challenging his critics on a national health care overhaul, accusing them of making "phony claims" about the legislation.
Okay, you first.
FACT CHECK: White House ignores health concession
CLAIM: "I challenge you guys all to go back and see what we've said about this over the course of many, many, many, many months, and you'll find a boring consistency to our rhetoric," White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters.
THE FACTS: During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama said a new public plan should offer comprehensive insurance similar to that available to federal employees.
In the first half of the year, Obama said repeatedly in speeches, weekly radio and Internet addresses and town halls that he wants a health care overhaul that has a taxpayer-funded public health insurance option. He has said the plan would compete with private insurance to keep costs down.
364 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:48:47am |
re: #347 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi} How are you today?
365 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:03am |
re: #361 realwest
Then there's still hope! (unless by "here" you mean Michigan in which case there isn't much hope left!).
I did mention to Charles that I think an option to "ignore" other lizards would be very beneficial here at LGF. Why put up with personal attacks when you can just put someone on auto?
366 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:04am |
re: #363 jcm
Why bring up those pesky fact things?
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367 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:14am |
re: #357 realwest
Probably, he'll be of the coast here Sunday, if the projections hold. during Hurrican season I'm happy to be in a state that very rarely gets direct hits.
368 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:46am |
re: #366 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why bring up those pesky fact things?
/
What can I say? I'm all wee wee'd up!
369 | CommonCents Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:53am |
re: #361 realwest
Then there's still hope! (unless by "here" you mean Michigan in which case there isn't much hope left!).
Hey! There's always hope. Here on the west side, we're going to be the American 1/2 of the state. If we could con Canada into taking Wayne county MI would be red'er than Texas.
371 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:50:16am |
re: #352 midwestgak
This is a real threat in Europe
They're doing it to themselves.
Many Lloyds TSB customers are being hit with charges of up to £200 a month if they go into the red - while Muslims who use the bank are only being charged £15.
The part-nationalised bank has been accused of religious discrimination over the disparity between overdraft charges on its standard current account and its Islamic account.
The Islamic account was set up by the high street bank to attract Muslim customers by allowing them to keep faithful to their religion.
372 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:50:58am |
re: #364 realwest
Good morning {wahabi} How are you today?
hi ya real! Awake. Kinda. I think. How be you?
374 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:17am |
377 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:53:59am |
re: #365 Irish Rose
Heck, I see some posters I just keep on scrollin' by - don't need an ignore button to do that!
378 | Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:54:00am |
Palin, everybody!
I mean, mornin', Pythons!
Er, um...back to bed.
381 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:55:23am |
re: #378 Cato the Elder
Palin, everybody!
I mean, mornin', Pythons!
Er, um...back to bed.
I seriously beginning to think your really David Letterman.
382 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:05am |
re: #378 Cato the Elder
Palin, everybody!
I mean, mornin', Pythons!
Er, um...back to bed.
Did your Palin alarm clock work?
384 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:27am |
385 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:11am |
re: #377 realwest
Heck, I see some posters I just keep on scrollin' by - don't need an ignore button to do that!
I had a feature like that installed on a site that I used to admin. It infuriates trolls, flamers and people who just generally like to stir up shit. You can set it so that troublemakers and disrupters can see their own comments, but nobody else can. You can also allow users to filter out the comments of specific individuals.
Great tool for keeping the peace.
386 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:12am |
the donk dirt and filth is gonna stick to Pelosi...pretty stinky swamp...ethics issues in 2010
[Link: www.time.com...]
387 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:58:16am |
re: #385 Irish Rose
I had a feature like that installed on a site that I used to admin. It infuriates trolls, flamers and people who just generally like to stir up shit. You can set it so that troublemakers and disrupters can see their own comments, but nobody else can. You can also allow users to filter out the comments of specific individuals.
Great tool for keeping the peace.
I seem to recall that zombie discovered one of the San Fran newspapers was doing that and didn't much like being outed.
heh.
388 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:58:46am |
re: #387 wahabicorridor
I seem to recall that zombie discovered one of the San Fran newspapers was doing that and didn't much like being outed.
heh.
I remember that.
389 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:00:17am |
I have to say that from an admin perspective, it was absolutely hilarious for trolls and flamers to spin themselves into a foaming frenzy and finally stomp off in a rage because they weren't getting any responses.
390 | Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:00:27am |
re: #382 Cannadian Club Akbar
Did your Palin alarm clock work?
Not the first night. It kept me from sleeping at all out of concern for the fate of the Republic. Those eyes, those eyes, boring into me all night with all the intelligence of two 10-watt light bulbs...
But last night I figured out to turn off the nightlight so I couldn't see 'em.
Then this morning she woke me up with that trademark trashy drone, screaming, "It's Sarahcuda time, you betcha!" Rolled out of bed, drenched in sweat, and headed for the shower.
Still feeling dirty.
391 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:01:35am |
re: #390 Cato the Elder
lol, you're horrible ;).
392 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:01:41am |
re: #384 opnion
Hi opnion! I'm doing ok, trying desperately to stay awake her and NOT doing a very good job of it - 3rd mug of coffee - mus be the weather, cause I selpt ok last nigh.
Ho's about yourownself? How's by you?
394 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:02:57am |
jcm...you might like this link...kinda cool
[Link: www.time.com...]
395 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:03:27am |
re: #389 Irish Rose
I have to say that from an admin perspective, it was absolutely hilarious for trolls and flamers to spin themselves into a foaming frenzy and finally stomp off in a rage because they weren't getting any responses.
Now THAT sounds like FUN! Hey Rose, e-mail Charles and ask him again!
396 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:04:12am |
re: #395 realwest
Now THAT sounds like FUN! Hey Rose, e-mail Charles and ask him again!
Once is enough.
397 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:04:57am |
re: #392 realwest
Hi opnion! I'm doing ok, trying desperately to stay awake her and NOT doing a very good job of it - 3rd mug of coffee - mus be the weather, cause I selpt ok last nigh.
Ho's about yourownself? How's by you?
Glad to hear it. I am having fantasies about being in the Carolinas at Myrtle Beach. We just could not get away this Summer.
I really like that area & driving through the Smokies is a kick.
I guess with the weather coming in, not a good time to be on the Coast.
398 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:05:48am |
re: #394 albusteve
jcm...you might like this link...kinda cool
[Link: www.time.com...]
Very nice, Tear Down This Wall made the top ten, Patrick Henry, Churchill, Lincoln.
399 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:07:15am |
Obama now stepping it back, "The Public Option is just one idea"
Hmmm, when did it cease being essential? The President is sounding childish.
400 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:07:27am |
re: #394 albusteve
Good morning Steve! Hey, didja notice othat on the right side of your linked page, Time has four of the Century's greatest speaches ...and they were all from last century?!? Should we tell 'em ya think?!
401 | aggieann Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:08:33am |
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
402 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:09:42am |
re: #400 realwest
Good morning Steve! Hey, didja notice othat on the right side of your linked page, Time has four of the Century's greatest speaches ...and they were all from last century?!? Should we tell 'em ya think?!
Do you mean to tell me that Obamas "Wee Weed Up" speech is not in the top 10? Outrage?
403 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:09:52am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
Well children usually mean they have to pee if they use the term.
404 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:10:33am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
According to Robert Gibbs it means bedwetters.
405 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:10:41am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
Gibbs explains...
406 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:10:57am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
Only when my sister was potty-training her kids
407 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:11:11am |
nice story about a Florida Blue Dog and how he's handling health reform
[Link: www.politico.com...]
408 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:11:26am |
re: #399 opnion
Obama now stepping it back, "The Public Option is just one idea"
Hmmm, when did it cease being essential? The President is sounding childish.
Nah, he just sounds like the lying POS he is.
409 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:13:19am |
re: #400 realwest
Good morning Steve! Hey, didja notice othat on the right side of your linked page, Time has four of the Century's greatest speaches ...and they were all from last century?!? Should we tell 'em ya think?!
morning...hadn't noticed...good catch..I might have trouble day to day but I'm pretty sure which century it is!
410 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:13:31am |
re: #405 jcm
Good morning jcm! Say, does Gibbs get paid a salary to do what he does?!
And if so, do y'all know how much?!
411 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:13:34am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
This little piggy went "wee-wee-wee" all the way home.
412 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:14:46am |
re: #411 MandyManners
This little piggy went "wee-wee-wee" all the way home.
Oops. That's an extra "wee".
413 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:04am |
re: #408 wahabicorridor
Nah, he just sounds like the lying POS he is.
He is very dishonest. He lies even when there is tape of him saying the opposite just days earlier. His true believers will overlook that.
IMO his problem is Independents & Regan style Democrats. He is losing it quickly.
414 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:16am |
Man, this is a slooow news day! All we seem to be talking about is wee-weeing!
415 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:27am |
re: #410 realwest
Good morning jcm! Say, does Gibbs get paid a salary to do what he does?!
And if so, do y'all know how much?!
He just inspires so much confidence in the administration, Can you feel the sense of security
/?
416 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:45am |
re: #410 realwest
Good morning jcm! Say, does Gibbs get paid a salary to do what he does?!
And if so, do y'all know how much?!
Among these staffers is Robert Gibbs, who earns the salary cap of $172,200.
Jobs programs for the impaired pay more than I thought.
417 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:16:17am |
I'm sooo ready for a vacation. Obama's that is. I look forward to not seeing or hearing him for a week.
419 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:16:36am |
re: #414 realwest
Man, this is a slooow news day! All we seem to be talking about is wee-weeing!
It is an accurate description of what is being done to us.
420 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:05am |
re: #417 KenJen
I'm sooo ready for a vacation. Obama's that is. I look forward to not seeing or hearing him for a week.
That will never happen until he is out of office.
421 | reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:12am |
re: #416 jcm
Among these staffers is Robert Gibbs, who earns the salary cap of $172,200.
Jobs programs for the impaired pay more than I thought.
haha!
good one.
422 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:50am |
California unemployment rate climbs to 11.9 pct.
No reason to get all wee wee'd up.
423 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:51am |
re: #419 jcm
It is an accurate description of what is being done to us.
We're up to our ears in wee.
424 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:54am |
re: #415 bbuddha
He just inspires so much confidence in the administration, Can you feel the sense of security
/?
LOL! No but maybe if LGF could somehow fix the jumpy pages and the difficulty with the post, bold and other buttons I'd feel more secure!
Why is it tht Gibbs always looks like he knows he's lying - in on some big joke that he's about to perpetuate or start?!
425 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:18:05am |
re: #420 MandyManners
That will never happen until he is out of office.
Okay. Then I'm looking forward to 2012.
426 | reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:18:31am |
re: #424 realwest
LOL! No but maybe if LGF could somehow fix the jumpy pages and the difficulty with the post, bold and other buttons I'd feel more secure!
Why is it tht Gibbs always looks like he knows he's lying - in on some big joke that he's about to perpetuate or start?!
RW - do you have your auto refresh turned on?
427 | reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:19:11am |
428 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:19:29am |
re: #422 jcm
California unemployment rate climbs to 11.9 pct.
No reason to get all wee wee'd up.
fascinating watching California go under...so wealthy and diverse
429 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:20:04am |
430 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:20:19am |
re: #428 albusteve
fascinating watching California go under...so wealthy and diverse
The future of the country, for those willing to look beyond the unicorn.
431 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:20:21am |
re: #414 realwest
Man, this is a slooow news day! All we seem to be talking about is wee-weeing!
Given 0bama's bent on destroying America, I take it as a positive.
432 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:20:37am |
re: #422 jcm
California unemployment rate climbs to 11.9 pct.
No reason to get all wee wee'd up.
Now that IS a newsworthy link - just unbelievable to me that 12% of Californians have stopped making unemployment insurance claims; God knows how many folks are really unemployed.
And THAT is really sad.
433 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:20am |
re: #423 MandyManners
We're up to our ears in wee.
All this wee wee talk reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw last year. It had a little Obama with big ears wee weeing on the Constitution. Kinda like your avatar.
434 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:31am |
re: #424 realwest
Well let's see, he is (in on the joke) and he's a shitty lier who is apparantly completely unaware of how bad he is at it.
435 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:50am |
re: #426 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Nope, I never use auto-refresh. I like to see how many comments I'm behind by the number Charles so thoughtfully puts on the "new comments" button!
436 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:22:05am |
So how do ya'll feel about Barrys' backroom deal with the pharmaceutical industry? Thoughts?
I'm looking at my asthma inhaler and thinking that I have to out dish out another $165.00 bucks that I can't afford for a new one today, because I'll die if I don't.
Not happy.
437 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:22:18am |
re: #430 jcm
The future of the country, for those willing to look beyond the unicorn.
I've used it many times here as an example of liberal failure and nobody has ever responded...not once
438 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:22am |
re: #401 aggieann
This is a serious question (for I am a serious Lizard). : )
What does wee-wee even MEAN? Have ANY of you ever heard this before?
I haven't heard the term since the first grade, actually.
439 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:40am |
re: #414 realwest
Man, this is a slooow news day! All we seem to be talking about is wee-weeing!
You got a real purty mouth boy, Squeal like a pig, Weee!
Hey, you don't think that BHO meant that? Naw
440 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:53am |
441 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:24:07am |
re: #432 realwest
Now that IS a newsworthy link - just unbelievable to me that 12% of Californians have stopped making unemployment insurance claims; God knows how many folks are really unemployed.
And THAT is really sad.
their tax base and revenue is crashing, people are flocking out of there...it's a mad spiral
442 | gregb Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:24:16am |
re: #2 Syrah
Once somebody figures it all out, it will up and change into something entirely different.
This has happened several times already.
/
Lol. You guys are missing the point. Quantum Mechanics has a fundamentally unknown part...that's what makes it quantum by definition.
444 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:25:14am |
re: #437 albusteve
I've used it many times here as an example of liberal failure and nobody has ever responded...not once
It really is sad that California is a perfect example of liberal economic policy failure and so many refuse to see it, or blame Schwarzenegger for it and no one else.
445 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:25:36am |
re: #437 albusteve
I've used it many times here as an example of liberal failure and nobody has ever responded...not once
Hey, that's ok, I musta asked half a dozen times out here how did Obama and the Dems arrive at the figure that 46 million Americans can't afford health insurance and I've never received an answer either!
Maybe I should just e-mail him and ask him?
446 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:25:48am |
re: #436 Irish Rose
So how do ya'll feel about Barrys' backroom deal with the pharmaceutical industry? Thoughts?
I'm looking at my asthma inhaler and thinking that I have to out dish out another $165.00 bucks that I can't afford for a new one today, because I'll die if I don't.
Not happy.
What about Axelrod's financial shenanigans with the pharmas?
447 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:26:55am |
re: #445 realwest
Hey, that's ok, I musta asked half a dozen times out here how did Obama and the Dems arrive at the figure that 46 million Americans can't afford health insurance and I've never received an answer either!
Maybe I should just e-mail him and ask him?
nobody likes our questions...wahhh!
448 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:27:07am |
re: #436 Irish Rose
So how do ya'll feel about Barrys' backroom deal with the pharmaceutical industry? Thoughts?
I'm looking at my asthma inhaler and thinking that I have to out dish out another $165.00 bucks that I can't afford for a new one today, because I'll die if I don't.
Not happy.
Hope they enjoy their 30 pieces of silver.
449 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:27:15am |
Today marks the beginning of the 'Holy" month of Ramadan.
This is really nice, street vendors in Cairo have named their dates after Barack Obama.
450 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:27:46am |
re: #446 MandyManners
What about Axelrod's financial shenanigans with the pharmas?
Good morning Mandy! Uh, what financial shenanigans are y'all talking about?
451 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:28:09am |
re: #444 soxfan4life
It really is sad that California is a perfect example of liberal economic policy failure and so many refuse to see it, or blame Schwarzenegger for it and no one else.
and it's the Speakers home state!...tell me liberals do not want economic failure...the evidence says otherwise
452 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:28:10am |
re: #414 realwest
Man, this is a slooow news day! All we seem to be talking about is wee-weeing!
Obamacare - Point and Counterpoint
"Mr. Obama has gone back on the campaign trail to try to sell his health care reform to the nation. Mostly hand-picked, sympathetic attendees have been showing up to his town hall meetings. He continues to make the same points regarding health care reform, which need to be addressed specifically."
Interesting rebutal to Obama's healthcare claims. Many, if not all point, have been addressed by lizards throught the threads on the subject. Here is a nice complilation.
453 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:28:25am |
re: #446 MandyManners
What about Axelrod's financial shenanigans with the pharmas?
But didn't 0bama supporters everywhere assure us this guy is different and we wouldn't have these back door deals and shady politics. I'm shocked another 0bama lie foisted upon America.
454 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:29:35am |
re: #446 MandyManners
What about Axelrod's financial shenanigans with the pharmas?
one hell of a story...just swept away by the MSM...I hate the MSM with every bone in my body
455 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:29:42am |
re: #451 albusteve
and it's the Speakers home state!...tell me liberals do not want economic failure...the evidence says otherwise
Liberals need economic failure for their own survival.
456 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:31:03am |
re: #436 Irish Rose
So how do ya'll feel about Barrys' backroom deal with the pharmaceutical industry? Thoughts?
I'm looking at my asthma inhaler and thinking that I have to out dish out another $165.00 bucks that I can't afford for a new one today, because I'll die if I don't.
Not happy.
Part of the deal is , no purchases from Canada. Think about it, drugs manufactured here, sold in Canada for so much less that they could resell here & turn a profit.
Barry in bed with Big Pharma.
457 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:31:18am |
re: #441 albusteve
their tax base and revenue is crashing, people are flocking out of there...it's a mad spiral
And when the rest of the country spirals out of control...
THERE IS NO WHERE TO GO!
Excerpts from Reagan's A Time Choosing (full video linkedre: #305 jcm)
But I have an uncomfortable feeling that this prosperity isn't something on which we can base our hopes for the future. No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income. Today, 37 cents out of every dollar earned in this country is the tax collector's share, and yet our government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more than the government takes in. We haven't balanced our budget 28 out of the last 34 years. We've raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and now our national debt is one and a half times bigger than all the combined debts of all the nations of the world. We have 15 billion dollars in gold in our treasury; we don't own an ounce. Foreign dollar claims are 27.3 billion dollars. And we've just had announced that the dollar of 1939 will now purchase 45 cents in its total value.
Government is consuming 45% of GDP, it will go over 50% if Health Care passes.
459 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:31:58am |
re: #436 Irish Rose
I've been able to greatly reduce my inhaler use taking a supplement called clear lungs. It is a homeopathic supplement. I'll add I'm not a doctor, not do I play one on TV so of course this is just a possible help from a fellow sufferer.
460 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:00am |
re: #445 realwest
Hey, that's ok, I musta asked half a dozen times out here how did Obama and the Dems arrive at the figure that 46 million Americans can't afford health insurance and I've never received an answer either!
Maybe I should just e-mail him and ask him?
That's 'cuz it's a bullshit number.
461 | BignJames Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:41am |
re: #451 albusteve
and it's the Speakers home state!...tell me liberals do not want economic failure...the evidence says otherwise
462 | reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:47am |
463 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:33:31am |
re: #455 soxfan4life
Liberals need economic failure for their own survival.
and when you argue the antiAmerican collectivism, they get pissed and tell you be nice, socialism is a myth, Bush wrecked the economy...and every sort of disconnect from reality...power before the good of the nation might as well be their motto
464 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:33:49am |
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Critics of President Obama’s health-care overhaul are zeroing in on his senior adviser David Axelrod, whose former partners at a Chicago-based firm are the beneficiaries of huge ad buys—now at $24 million and counting—by White House allies in the reform fight.
The unwelcome scrutiny, largely from Republicans, comes at an inopportune time as Obama seeks to shore up support for health care reform. It revolves around two separate $12 million ad campaigns advocating Obama’s health care plan that were produced and placed partly by AKPD Message and Media, a firm founded by Axelrod that employs his son and still owes Axelrod $2 million.
465 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:33:56am |
re: #457 jcm
And when the rest of the country spirals out of control...
THERE IS NO WHERE TO GO!
Excerpts from Reagan's A Time Choosing (full video linkedre: #305 jcm)
But I have an uncomfortable feeling that this prosperity isn't something on which we can base our hopes for the future. No nation in history has ever survived a tax burden that reached a third of its national income. Today, 37 cents out of every dollar earned in this country is the tax collector's share, and yet our government continues to spend 17 million dollars a day more than the government takes in. We haven't balanced our budget 28 out of the last 34 years. We've raised our debt limit three times in the last twelve months, and now our national debt is one and a half times bigger than all the combined debts of all the nations of the world. We have 15 billion dollars in gold in our treasury; we don't own an ounce. Foreign dollar claims are 27.3 billion dollars. And we've just had announced that the dollar of 1939 will now purchase 45 cents in its total value.
Government is consuming 45% of GDP, it will go over 50% if Health Care passes.
We can always print more bills.
///
467 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:34:52am |
re: #459 bbuddha
I've been able to greatly reduce my inhaler use taking a supplement called clear lungs. It is a homeopathic supplement. I'll add I'm not a doctor, not do I play one on TV so of course this is just a possible help from a fellow sufferer.
Thanks, I'll look into that.
468 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:03am |
re: #458 realwest
Hi {gak} thanks for that!
{real}! Happy to see you. 62 degrees with a high of 71. It should be in the 90s.
My electric company isn't happy though. lol
469 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:29am |
My alma mater is having some tough times. First the Pitino scandal, then the flood and then this. This guy was up to no good. Thank goodness someone was paying attention.
470 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:45am |
471 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:51am |
re: #445 realwest
Hey, that's ok, I musta asked half a dozen times out here how did Obama and the Dems arrive at the figure that 46 million Americans can't afford health insurance and I've never received an answer either!
Maybe I should just e-mail him and ask him?
That number has been used for at least the last 10 years & everyone knows that the number came out of thin air.
If you carve our illegals & young people that just don't participate by choice you get a much smaller number.
To toss out the number 12 million does not have the same impact.
472 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:07am |
re: #465 Irish Rose
We can always print more bills.
///
They're gonna' look like this, and 10 will buy you a loaf of bread.
473 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:48am |
re: #463 albusteve
and when you argue the antiAmerican collectivism, they get pissed and tell you be nice, socialism is a myth, Bush wrecked the economy...and every sort of disconnect from reality...power before the good of the nation might as well be their motto
Party over all else, where have we heard this before. You can almost hear Reagan saying Mr. 0bama tear down this wall.
474 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #472 jcm
They're gonna' look like this, and 10 will buy you a loaf of bread.
two words...
wheelbarrows
475 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:15am |
re: #463 albusteve
and when you argue the antiAmerican collectivism, they get pissed and tell you be nice, socialism is a myth, Bush wrecked the economy...and every sort of disconnect from reality...power before the good of the nation might as well be their motto
Right & Barry is not a Socialist, that is like the new N word.
Karl Marx was smeared as a Marxist.
476 | BignJames Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:24am |
re: #470 albusteve
heh...I just posted that...good 'ol Nancy
When you're draining the swamp...lookout for the 'gators.
477 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:25am |
re: #460 jcm
That's 'cuz it's a bullshit number.
Well I have no choice but to agree to that since no one's ever answered my question, but bullshit it is not. Taking a Machete to health care delivery and insurance could maybe, perhaps, be explainable if that number were true (and if it was adults only that were being counted) but if it is, as some have said, closer to 12 million, then a scalpel would do a much better and much faster job. What Obama and the Dems fail to realize is that this naked grab for Power for the Fed Government through "Health Care Reform" is taking up precious time for those who truly can't afford consistently delivered health care.
478 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:43am |
re: #472 jcm
They're gonna' look like this, and 10 will buy you a loaf of bread.
The new liberal catch phrase is the cost of a cup of coffee, so it might be fitting to show how many it will take to buy a cup of Joe.
479 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:55am |
480 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:39:36am |
Being forced into use my unemployment benefits to pay for life-saving medication leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.
481 | midwestgak Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:41:11am |
re: #477 realwest
Well I have no choice but to agree to that since no one's ever answered my question, but bullshit it is not. Taking a Machete to health care delivery and insurance could maybe, perhaps, be explainable if that number were true (and if it was adults only that were being counted) but if it is, as some have said, closer to 12 million, then a scalpel would do a much better and much faster job. What Obama and the Dems fail to realize is that this naked grab for Power for the Fed Government through "Health Care Reform" is taking up precious time for those who truly can't afford consistently delivered health care.
4. Nearly 50 million Americans are without health care.
You are right real. From the article posted about:
Nearly 13 million Americans are without health insurance. No one in the United States is without health care. Government regulations prohibit patients from being turned away from hospitals, which must provide medical care to anyone. The huge number that the Obama administration has used is highly inflated.
482 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:41:36am |
re: #477 realwest
The answer is interstate competition. Really not difficult to understand but it doesn't further pres wee wee's (sorry I can't resist) plan to change the country
483 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:42:04am |
re: #480 Irish Rose
Being forced into use my unemployment benefits to pay for life-saving medication leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.
Have you talked to the people at Partnership for Prescription Assistance?
484 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:42:58am |
The Top Ten Myths of American Health Care
Myth One: Government Health Care Is More Efficient
Myth Two: We're Spending Too Much on Health Care
Myth Three: Forty-Six Million Americans Can't Get Health Care
Myth Four: High Drug Prices Drive Up Health Care Costs
Myth Five: Importing Drugs Would Reduce Health Care Costs
Myth Six: Universal Coverage Can Be Achieved by Forcing Everyone to Buy Insurance
Myth Seven: Government Prevention Programs Reduce Health Care Costs
Myth Eight: We Need More Government to Insure Poor Americans
Myth Nine: Health Information Technology Is a Silver Bullet for Reducing Costs
Myth Ten: Government-Run Health Care Systems in Other Countries are Better and Cheaper than America's
Solutions: Markets, Consumer Choice, and Innovation
485 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:43:53am |
re: #483 KenJen
Have you talked to the people at Partnership for Prescription Assistance?
Working on it as we speak.
486 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:43:54am |
re: #478 soxfan4life
The new liberal catch phrase is the cost of a cup of coffee, so it might be fitting to show how many it will take to buy a cup of Joe.
That's a favorite in Seattle! It's only a Mocha a week!
A mocha here, a mocha there pretty soon you talkin' a whole lot of beans.
487 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:39am |
re: #482 bbuddha
Link: she's a better wordsmith than I.
[Link: anncoulter.com...]
488 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:44am |
re: #481 midwestgak
4. Nearly 50 million Americans are without health care.
You are right real. From the article posted about:
Nearly 13 million Americans are without health insurance. No one in the United States is without health care. Government regulations prohibit patients from being turned away from hospitals, which must provide medical care to anyone. The huge number that the Obama administration has used is highly inflated.
Proponents of radical change in the health delivery system have used that inflated number for years.
Why not make Michelle Obama the Healthcare Reform Czar.
She could do for the naton what she did for the U of C Meical Center, dump uninsured patients. They could load them on buses & ship them to Canada. Valarie Jarret & Axlerod were in on it & they are in DC now.
489 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:46:00am |
re: #486 jcm
That's a favorite in Seattle! It's only a Mocha a week!
A mocha here, a mocha there pretty soon you talkin' a whole lot of beans.
It's big in MA as well. Why don't the SOB's try saving that much a day for a start and working towards bigger and better numbers. They tell us we need to tighten our belts while they are going up to the buffet table 100 times.
490 | Lincolntf Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:46:59am |
Anyone remember a thread from a couple days ago when the Da Vinci Code was being discussed? Someone posted the title of a book that was supposed to be a more literary approach to a similar subject. Anyone happen to know what I'm talking about, the author, the title, anything?
491 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:03am |
a despicable manipulation of the democratic process...for Me but not for thee...the Swimmer strikes back...the MSM should be all over this
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
492 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:18am |
re: #477 realwest
Well I have no choice but to agree to that since no one's ever answered my question, but bullshit it is not. Taking a Machete to health care delivery and insurance could maybe, perhaps, be explainable if that number were true (and if it was adults only that were being counted) but if it is, as some have said, closer to 12 million, then a scalpel would do a much better and much faster job. What Obama and the Dems fail to realize is that this naked grab for Power for the Fed Government through "Health Care Reform" is taking up precious time for those who truly can't afford consistently delivered health care.
EDITORIAL: Who are the uninsured?
First of all, the uninsured do receive high-quality medical care. Virtually every state requires that hospitals treat people regardless of their ability to pay.Fourteen million of the 47 million are already eligible for government insurance, Medicaid, but have not signed up.
27 million of the uninsured have personal incomes of more than $50,000.
If you exclude those who are essentially covered by Medicaid, nearly 70 percent of the remaining uninsured lack insurance for less than four months. Many of those temporarily uninsured are simply switching jobs
There is a group of people who are borderline poor but not eligible for Medicaid, but the group is relatively small and many (if not most) of those people are illegal immigrants.
493 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:30am |
re: #488 opnion
Michelle has enough on her plate with the Wednesday night social event planning, she couldn't possibly take on healthcare too.
494 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:42am |
495 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:48:51am |
For all y'all who just like me are having trouble waking up here's something that may help (Toin dem speakers UP!):
496 | Irish Rose Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:49:44am |
Have a good morning lizards, I'm off to do the chores.
BBL.
497 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:49:48am |
back again. While I was making breakfast Charlie Cook was on MSNBC.. He said he was talking to some Dem politicos from some purple states. They don't want Obama anywhere near them - he's personna non grata
498 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:49:52am |
re: #492 jcm
How many of that 47,000,000 are illegal aliens? Isn't that number a lie?
499 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:02am |
re: #495 realwest
The CD I sent along, are you enjoying it? Or did it fall a little short?
Some of the tracks I like, others are so so. Overall it's pretty good IMHO.
500 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:30am |
re: #498 MandyManners
How many of that 47,000,000 are illegal aliens? Isn't that number a lie?
Most numbers put in the 10 million range.
501 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:52am |
Even if 47,000,000 is an accurate number excluding illegals, that's not even 10 per cent of the population.
502 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:51:27am |
503 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:52:08am |
re: #491 albusteve
a despicable manipulation of the democratic process...for Me but not for thee...the Swimmer strikes back...the MSM should be all over this
[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]
Good luck with that, the MSM all over a Democrat double standard. I cannot wait to see MA in my rearview mirror next week for the last time.
504 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:52:59am |
re: #502 MandyManners
Ten million illegals?
7 to 20 depending on which study, 10-12 is probably correct.
505 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:02am |
506 | Nom de boom Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:12am |
Just had to drop by this morning and ask if anyone watched CBS News last night. If so, did you catch the Biblical reference in the lead-up to the story on the Obama's vacation, "And on the ___ day, he rested." I had to clean up a lot of Diet Coke after that little gem.
507 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:19am |
England is finished...they just don't know it yet
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
508 | victor_yugo Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:40am |
re: #504 jcm
7 to 20 depending on which study, 10-12 is probably correct.
Some say the sun rises in the east, others say the sun rises in the west. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
509 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:49am |
re: #497 wahabicorridor
back again. While I was making breakfast Charlie Cook was on MSNBC.. He said he was talking to some Dem politicos from some purple states. They don't want Obama anywhere near them - he's personna non grata
How long until the MSM starts portraying them as inbred racists like they did when HRC won the primary in WVA.
510 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:53:50am |
re: #502 MandyManners
Ten million illegals?
I'll find the link, but I heard about 10-12 mil illegals, 22 million young people who just don't think they need it and about 12 million truly without insurance.
511 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:54:55am |
re: #493 soxfan4life
Michelle has enough on her plate with the Wednesday night social event planning, she couldn't possibly take on healthcare too.
I take your point, but Michelle is a mult-tasker & can handle it.
She was able to head up the Urban Health Initiative working only a twenty hour week. A person I know that was there claims that she didn't even do the 20 hours. She pulled down over $300,000 after Barry made U.S Senator.
512 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:54:58am |
re: #489 soxfan4life
HAH! They never LEAVE the buffet table!
513 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:55:30am |
re: #504 jcm
7 to 20 depending on which study, 10-12 is probably correct.
How soon will we get shouted down for talking about illegals?
514 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:00am |
re: #506 Nom de boom
Just had to drop by this morning and ask if anyone watched CBS News last night. If so, did you catch the Biblical reference in the lead-up to the story on the Obama's vacation, "And on the ___ day, he rested." I had to clean up a lot of Diet Coke after that little gem.
Well, he is the creator. The creator of a huge mess.
515 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:16am |
re: #506 Nom de boom
Just had to drop by this morning and ask if anyone watched CBS News last night. If so, did you catch the Biblical reference in the lead-up to the story on the Obama's vacation, "And on the ___ day, he rested." I had to clean up a lot of Diet Coke after that little gem.
I'd rather shove a hot poker up my nose than watch CBS.
516 | Shug Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:29am |
re: #498 MandyManners
How many of that 47,000,000 are illegal aliens? Isn't that number a lie?
it's a complete fabrication.
off the top of my head
10-15 million illegals
10 million who voluntarily decline coverage
and if you change jobs or don't have coverage for even 1 day, then you are counted as one of the 47 million.
I think the number is closer to 5-10 million Americans who want coverage and don't have it.
( far too many IMO, but not 47 million )
517 | razorbacker Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:47am |
I make no pretense about understanding quantum mechanics.
Regular mechanics still give me trouble. I've yet to reassemble an automatic transmission without at least a coffee can full of various ball bearings, springy-type curly bits of metal, and the occasional plunger or vacuum release valve left over.
Stoopid, stationary automobiles.
But I do understand this:
I'd be a lot more receptive to socialist health care if they would simply try it out on government employees for 25 years or so, first. Just say, "We're so sure that this is the way to go that every single government employee is required to use our health care, and nothing else" and then, after a quarter-century or so, I'll think about climbing on board.
518 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:57:00am |
re: #505 realwest
And
re: #482 bbuddhaYeah, I know that - just wondered how they came up with the number - just write mid-to high double digit numbers on pieces of paper, throw 'em in a hat and pick one out?!?
AND HOW COME THE DAMNED MSM NEVER ASKS ABOUT THIS?!
They lump every one together, which inflates the number. So what of 20 million have an health care option, but don't use it. So what if 10 million are only temporarily uninsured, so what if 10 million are illegals.
It's easier to sell people on a whole sale rework of health care when 12% of people are DYING IN STREETS because of BIG HEALTH CARE.
Than the truth that 4% don't have insurance, but they'll get care anyway if they show up at the ER and the rest of will pick up the tab.
519 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:57:37am |
re: #492 jcm
Oh jcm, my poor, dear friend. Do you not know that the paper that printed that editorial is owned by Moonies?
How can you trust ANYTHING they say?!
//
520 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:57:39am |
re: #511 opnion
I take your point, but Michelle is a mult-tasker & can handle it.
She was able to head up the Urban Health Initiative working only a twenty hour week. A person I know that was there claims that she didn't even do the 20 hours. She pulled down over $300,000 after Barry made U.S Senator.
An interesting aside to that is after she left the position hasn't been filled.
521 | Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:12am |
re: #507 albusteve
England is finished...they just don't know it yet
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
Let's all be mohammedans!
/Isn't that the idea?
522 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:14am |
re: #513 MandyManners
How soon will we get shouted down for talking about illegals?
OK, then refer to them as 'Undocumented Citizens" I actually heard a Sociology Prof use that term. It is so much nicer, don't ya think.
523 | Shug Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:23am |
re: #520 soxfan4life
An interesting aside to that is after she left the position hasn't been filled.
cuz she's such a tough act to follow
/
524 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:36am |
re: #520 soxfan4life
An interesting aside to that is after she left the position hasn't been filled.
Worse. It's been eliminated
525 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:37am |
re: #519 realwest
Oh jcm, my poor, dear friend. Do you not know that the paper that printed that editorial is owned by Moonies?
How can you trust ANYTHING they say?!
//
LOL!
You see the last line?
As the late, great senator from New York, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, used to say: "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts."
526 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:44am |
So, smash flat insurance and medical care--two huge segments of the public sector--in order to take care of a miniscule portion of Americans. Goshdarn fucking commie bullshit.
527 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:50am |
One of (the many) things that gets me on these commercials for the healthcare overhaul is the bit about covering pre existing condiditions. Isn't that like waiting untill you are in an accident and your car is totaled then going and buying insurance to cover the the already totaled car?
Of course if insurance was more affordable, more people would opt in. then the problem wouldn't exist in the numbers it does now.
528 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #497 wahabicorridor
PURPLE States? What? I was just getting over the idea of more conservative states being called "Red", what the hell are Purple States?!
529 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:26am |
re: #507 albusteve
England is finished...they just don't know it yet
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
And then there is the London mega-mosque...
530 | razorbacker Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:33am |
re: #527 bbuddha
One of (the many) things that gets me on these commercials for the healthcare overhaul is the bit about covering pre existing condiditions. Isn't that like waiting untill you are in an accident and your car is totaled then going and buying insurance to cover the the already totaled car?
Of course if insurance was more affordable, more people would opt in. then the problem wouldn't exist in the numbers it does now.
Why can't you buy life insurance for a dead person?
532 | Mich-again Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:47am |
Interesting story.. Where will they go next? Canadians visit U.S. to get health care
Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.
Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.
533 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:59am |
re: #513 MandyManners
We're rascits and hatemongers. The DHHS commisioner of my state sent a DHHS wide memo saying as much (talk about pulling your hair out)
534 | victor_yugo Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:02am |
re: #524 wahabicorridor
Worse. It's been eliminated
So has the Chinese food I ate a couple days ago.
535 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:04am |
re: #520 soxfan4life
An interesting aside to that is after she left the position hasn't been filled.
Yeah, that is rich. However BHO was able to get earmarks for the U of C when in the Senate. A pure coincidence.
536 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:07am |
re: #499 jcm
I've actually enjoyed all of 'em thank you!! Some are better than others, but they are all good!
537 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:13am |
re: #528 realwest
PURPLE States? What? I was just getting over the idea of more conservative states being called "Red", what the hell are Purple States?!
The states that win you Presidential elections.
539 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:01:59am |
re: #535 opnion
Yeah, that is rich. However BHO was able to get earmarks for the U of C when in the Senate. A pure coincidence.
Definitely coincidence because 0 is all about hope and change not the same old politics as usual.///. Real heavy sarcasm.
540 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:16am |
re: #533 bbuddha
We're rascits and hatemongers. The DHHS commisioner of my state sent a DHHS wide memo saying as much (talk about pulling your hair out)
Link?
541 | Shug Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:28am |
re: #532 Mich-again
Interesting story.. Where will they go next? Canadians visit U.S. to get health care
I saw some dumb shit in CNN this morning saying that this was just Canada being smart by outsourcing some healthcare to the US where we spend so much money on specialized hospitals, as if citizens going to another country to get healthcare was a great idea.
OK, fine. When we get Obamacare , where will our citizens go for fancy sophisiticated and expensive healthcare?
542 | itellu3times Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:30am |
re: #501 MandyManners
Even if 47,000,000 is an accurate number excluding illegals, that's not even 10 per cent of the population.
Ms MM, please work this out for us on the blackboard.
543 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:33am |
re: #520 soxfan4life
An interesting aside to that is after she left the position hasn't been filled.
And nobody even blinked in the MSM.
544 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:38am |
re: #528 realwest
PURPLE States? What? I was just getting over the idea of more conservative states being called "Red", what the hell are Purple States?!
545 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:04am |
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
How are things in Lizardia today?
546 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:23am |
547 | Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:25am |
548 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:29am |
re: #543 VioletTiger
And nobody even blinked in the MSM.
Hard to blink when you have stars in your eyes.
549 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:04am |
Flying pig moment.
Ok, I know NPR is not always outwardly bias, many times they just present information without much commentary, which is annoying since they usually do that when the issue falls under a positive conservative issue, and go whole hog partisan when they cover a progressive issue.
But this morning (granted, it was a Sat. morning, about 7:30am) NPR radio had an editor on commenting on recent news, and he admitted Obama is in trouble. No spin, no excuses and nothing positive. He didn't "trash mouth" the president, but he didn't cut him any slack.
Just an observation.
551 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:52am |
re: #522 opnion
"'Undocumented Residents" would be more accurate than 'Undocumented Citizens"!
552 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:05:00am |
re: #539 soxfan4life
Definitely coincidence because 0 is all about hope and change not the same old politics as usual.///. Real heavy sarcasm.
Here's some bad luck, the seas will be to heavy for BHO to body surf on his vacation.
You know that he wanted a picture of himself is a swim suit in the paper, so that Liberal chicks & Chris Mattews could swoon.
553 | albusteve Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:05:15am |
554 | itellu3times Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:05:30am |
re: #517 razorbacker
I'd be a lot more receptive to socialist health care if they would simply try it out on government employees for 25 years or so, first. Just say, "We're so sure that this is the way to go that every single government employee is required to use our health care, and nothing else" and then, after a quarter-century or so, I'll think about climbing on board.
Maybe they could try it out on pets, first.
Yes - free health care for chimps, starting in 2010.
Extend it to ferrets in 2012.
Then to cats of senior citizens in 2013.
And to dogs of families making under $47,000 a year in 2014.
... until by 2037, all pets are covered!
This is more the kind of bill our congresscritters can handle.
/
555 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:05:31am |
re: #545 yma o hyd
Hiya, Lizard Nation!
How are things in Lizardia today?
Morning yma!
All is rather pleasant here this morning!
556 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:06:01am |
558 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:07:04am |
re: #551 realwest
"'Undocumented Residents" would be more accurate than 'Undocumented Citizens"!
Exactly, but the guy actually said citizens. This is how nutty the discussion is.
559 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:08:21am |
Should anybody here think that this business about Megrahi was just about Scots showing their independence from the rest of the UK, think again:
Government faces questions over Lockerbie bomber
From that link:
'The Government are under fresh pressure this morning over an alleged trade deal behind the release of the Lockerbie bomber.
Opposition MPs say claims made by Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s son raise ‘serious questions’ over the release of Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi.
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said negotiations over al-Megrahi’s release had always been tied up with the oil and gas business and Col Gaddafi himself also appeared on TV hugging Megrahi, who was this was this week released by the Scottish government on compassionate grounds, and thanking ‘my friend’ Gordon Brown.'
Dirty business, all round.
560 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:09:02am |
re: #530 razorbacker
Why can't you buy life insurance for a dead person?
If they can vote,they should be insured
561 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:09:44am |
re: #540 MandyManners
Can't (I don't think) I'm still trying to figure out a way of getting around the confidentiality tag on the end of all of our emails. btw I'm a support enforcement agent, in Maine they are under dhhs. I know about it because I received it.
562 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:10:18am |
re: #525 jcm Yes I did, but sadly, the true liberals like Daniel Patrick Moynihan are far gone from the fields of battle. Now there are only true Leftists and those that run the Democratic Party - e.g., Nancy Pelosi - have the Extreme Left as their base (in every sense of the word) constituency.
True Liberals you could discuss serious issues with and get the distinct and HONEST feeling that they and you were seeking a satisfactory common solution to a national/international problem.
Lefties only want POWER.
563 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:10:28am |
re: #550 wahabicorridor
morning yma!
Top of the morning to you - from an afternoon-ish Wales!
U2 have a huge concert here tonight - and we could hear them practising while we were playing in the park just now.
Pretty loud, it was, too - I hope they close the roof of the stadium tonight!
564 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:21am |
re: #562 realwest
If JFK was alive today he would be ashamed of the Democrat Party.
565 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:27am |
re: #560 n in wi
If they can vote,they should be insured
Actually Cook County Illinois is the most "Progressive" forward thinking area in the nation.
The Life challenged citizens are not discriminated against, they vote as early & often as thet always did.
566 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:38am |
re: #561 bbuddha
Can't (I don't think) I'm still trying to figure out a way of getting around the confidentiality tag on the end of all of our emails. btw I'm a support enforcement agent, in Maine they are under dhhs. I know about it because I received it.
I sometimes think that CS enforcement should be handled by law enforcement since CS orders are court orders.
567 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:40am |
re: #526 MandyManners
" Goshdarn fucking" ROTFLMAO! Great one Mandy!
569 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:12:07am |
re: #555 VioletTiger
Morning yma!
All is rather pleasant here this morning!
Hi - thats nice!
One does like a gentle slide into the weekend, without botheration. That ought to be left for government politicians ...
570 | Shug Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:12:57am |
571 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:13:19am |
re: #559 yma o hyd
I thought you might be interested in a conversation I had in London in mid-April (!) with very senior UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office officials about al-Megrahi. After leaving the Bush Administration in January I was on a work trip to London in mid-April and dropped by the FCO to check in with a couple of my former FCO colleagues. One high ranking British diplomat - a personal friend - complained to me that the release of al-Megrahi was forthcoming.
Not only is Andy McCarthy on the right track, it's even worse than that. We spoke (complained?) at length about the issue and it was very from my conversation that the decision was left to Number 10, and was being driven by the FCO in part to curry favor with Qaddafi after a rocky "rebooting" period.
I've been quite perplexed at the characterization of this as a Scottish decision, as my friend spoke of it in terms of something that had already been cleared conditionally by the courts and had been signed off on by the Prime Minister. In fact, he pointed me toward this February 2009 AFP article, mentioning that it was a trial balloon from the British government to test the reaction in the US and UK.
Note the date. They had not detected much anger of the article, so they British government had already decided that they would acquiesce to the Libyan request. He was also very explicit that they had informed the US of their plans to release him.
572 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:13:44am |
re: #531 Lincolntf
What? I don't recall ever having a vote on that!
I demand a recount!
573 | Lincolntf Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:14:31am |
re: #559 yma o hyd
I've been at a few UK newspaper sites today. Unbelievable how many people defend both the terrorist murderer and the Judge who released him. I've posted a couple comments at the sites, but none of them have made it through moderation yet.
Frankly, the "compassionate" release makes no sense to me (people far less deadly than this cretin die in prison all the time), so I'm leaning towards the "under-the-table" deal scenario.
574 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:14:45am |
575 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:15:20am |
re: #534 victor_yugo
LOL! Hey, have you ever tried Chinese-German cuisine? An hour after eating it you have a hunger for power!!
576 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:15:59am |
re: #573 Lincolntf
I must be cold hearted, because I believe life in prison means you leave in a body bag.
577 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:16:03am |
re: #566 MandyManners
I sometimes think that CS enforcement should be handled by law enforcement since CS orders are court orders.
In some states they are under dept of revenue, in TX they are apparently with the AG's office. That is a guess, that's who I talk to when we have overlapping cases. We do work closely with law enforcment.
578 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:16:58am |
re: #569 yma o hyd
Hi - thats nice!
One does like a gentle slide into the weekend, without botheration. That ought to be left for government politicians ...
Botheration. Love that word. Read one last night I have not used in awhile-feckless. I will have to work both into a conversation today. Shouldn't be to hard to do if Obama's named comes up.
579 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:17:50am |
re: #571 wahabicorridor
That fits very well with what is now coming out.
Here's something else - and quite quite delicious:
Lord Mandelson steps in over Lockerbie
From that link:
'The Government have been under pressure since this morning after allegations of alleged trade deal behind his release of the after claims made by Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Saif al-Islam.
But the business secretary, who has previously met with Saif al-Islam, dismissed allegations that al-Megrahi's release was the result of a business deal with Libya, as he was released from hospital following a prostate operation this afternoon.
Saif al-Islam, has claimed that negotiations over al-Megrahi’s release had always been tied up with the oil and gas business. However Mandelson, who has met with Saif al-Islam twice this year, said: “It’s not only completely wrong to make such a suggestion it’s also quite offensive. '
Mandelson, the dark soul of NuLab, met Saif al-Islam during his summer holidays this year - on a yacht belonging to Lord Rothshild, who was of course also present ...
580 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:17:55am |
re: #541 Shug
"OK, fine. When we get Obamacare , where will our citizens go for fancy sophisiticated and expensive healthcare?"
Hey Shug - never mind that, where the hell are our poorer, elderly and/or terribly ill CITIZENS to go for healthcare under Obama?
581 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:18:31am |
re: #577 bbuddha
In some states they are under dept of revenue, in TX they are apparently with the AG's office. That is a guess, that's who I talk to when we have overlapping cases. We do work closely with law enforcment.
I try not to think about CS 'cause dickhead is about $90,000.00 in arrears.
583 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:19:01am |
re: #580 realwest
"OK, fine. When we get Obamacare , where will our citizens go for fancy sophisiticated and expensive healthcare?"
Hey Shug - never mind that, where the hell are our poorer, elderly and/or terribly ill CITIZENS to go for healthcare under Obama?
Dr Jack Kevorkian comes to mind.
584 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:19:11am |
re: #564 soxfan4life
If JFK was alive today he would be ashamed of the Democrat Party.
Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."
John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963,
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Friday, January 20, 1961
585 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:20:24am |
re: #584 jcm
Pretty sad how low they have stooped for power now isn't it?
586 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:20:56am |
re: #573 Lincolntf
I've been at a few UK newspaper sites today. Unbelievable how many people defend both the terrorist murderer and the Judge who released him. I've posted a couple comments at the sites, but none of them have made it through moderation yet.
Frankly, the "compassionate" release makes no sense to me (people far less deadly than this cretin die in prison all the time), so I'm leaning towards the "under-the-table" deal scenario.
The 'compassionate' release is, I think, a nice spin by NuLab.
One point overlooked is that Megrahi had an appeal pending, which many wanted to go forward in order to see if he was really not guilty, as he cliamed, and if there was new evidence.
Megrahi abandoned the appeal so he could go free ...
In my book, you can be compassionate after a judgment, not before.
Oh - and it wasn't a judge who released him, it was the Scottish Minister for Justice.
587 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:21:22am |
re: #584 jcm
Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."
John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963,Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address Friday, January 20, 1961
What branch of the Kennedy family tree did Ted sprout from?
588 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:21:27am |
re: #545 yma o hyd
Good evening {yma} glad to see you survived the gang up of scientists and pedantics that you faced yesterday!
589 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:21:47am |
re: #580 realwest
"OK, fine. When we get Obamacare , where will our citizens go for fancy sophisiticated and expensive healthcare?"
Hey Shug - never mind that, where the hell are our poorer, elderly and/or terribly ill CITIZENS to go for healthcare under Obama?
My friend, you already know what Obama's priorities are & does not include seniors. This health care proposal is a financial horror movie.
In order to find economic efficiencies there will have to be rationing & all thinking people know that. One way to save is to often deny care to Seniors. It is being done now in Oregon.
590 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:22:08am |
Good morning Lizards ... looks like I missed the REALLY late night hoop talk ... and I was here until nearly 3:00am.
Hope everyone is doing well today!
591 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:22:40am |
re: #546 MandyManners
*hurling eraser*
I sure hope you meant "Throwing Eraser" or I don't want to eat where or what you eat!!
:)
592 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:22:59am |
593 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:02am |
re: #587 n in wi
What branch of the Kennedy family tree did Ted sprout from?
The rotten one of course
594 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:20am |
re: #581 MandyManners
I gave up, it made my life so much simpler. If I don't expect it I can't miss it. My child is 19 now and he still owes quite a bit. whenever they track him down I get a couple of checks, I send them to the child. She's putting herself thru school so a little extra is always welcome.
595 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:48am |
re: #589 opnion
My friend, you already know what Obama's priorities are & does not include seniors. This health care proposal is a financial horror movie.
In order to find economic efficiencies there will have to be rationing & all thinking people know that. One way to save is to often deny care to Seniors. It is being done now in Oregon.
I wonder what percentage of the elderly voted for Obama. I think they helped him out quite a bit in Florida.
596 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:24:35am |
re: #578 KenJen
Botheration. Love that word. Read one last night I have not used in awhile-feckless. I will have to work both into a conversation today. Shouldn't be to hard to do if Obama's named comes up.
Feckless is an excellent word - its much in use here at the present time, due to the preferential treatment dished out to the (feckless!) layabouts.
I'm sure you can use it many times in regard to the 47 million without 'obamacare'!
597 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:24:51am |
re: #595 VioletTiger
I wonder what percentage of the elderly voted for Obama. I think they helped him out quite a bit in Florida.
A lot of elderly voted for him because of the claims that John McCain was going to take away Social Security.
598 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:25:27am |
re: #595 VioletTiger
I wonder what percentage of the elderly voted for Obama. I think they helped him out quite a bit in Florida.
On FOX right now "Cash for Caskets"
not kidding
599 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:26:41am |
re: #598 VegasRick
On FOX right now "Cash for Caskets"
not kidding
Morning Rick
I was going to mention that. I heard Rush say that yesterday. Almost drove off the road laughing so hard !
600 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:26:41am |
re: #598 VegasRick
On FOX right now "Cash for Caskets"
not kidding
Trade in your clunker health care for a casket?
602 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:27:31am |
re: #590 _RememberTonyC
Good morning Lizards ... looks like I missed the REALLY late night hoop talk ... and I was here until nearly 3:00am.
Hope everyone is doing well today!
Heya TC
603 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:27:50am |
re: #595 VioletTiger
I wonder what percentage of the elderly voted for Obama. I think they helped him out quite a bit in Florida.
If I remember correctly , Obama won that demographic.
His weakest demographic was White Males under age 65.
No surprise there, we destroyed the Continent & instituted Monday Night Football.
Hell we are so evil that we will soon destroy the planet with Climate Change just form pulling the pop tops on our beers.
604 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:28:01am |
re: #588 realwest
Good evening {yma} glad to see you survived the gang up of scientists and pedantics that you faced yesterday!
Hiya, {rw}!
I hope you are well today and enjoying the summer!
Actually, I quite enjoyed that debate yesterday!
Mind, I do have my doubts about some of them being proper scientists ...
605 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:28:16am |
606 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:29:00am |
re: #600 jcm
Trade in your clunker health care for a casket?
Rush. Yesterday he was saying (tobgue in cheek) that he also didn't like the "Death Panel" phrase,,, instead, he'll use Cash For Caskets
607 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:29:05am |
re: #598 VegasRick
On FOX right now "Cash for Caskets"
not kidding
Come on, please tell me that you made that up.
608 | soxfan4life Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:29:15am |
Have a good day all, will more than likely check in later today.re: #603 opnion
I'd give that a million updings if I could.
610 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:30:31am |
re: #603 opnion
If I remember correctly , Obama won that demographic.
His weakest demographic was White Males under age 65.
No surprise there, we destroyed the Continent & instituted Monday Night Football.
Hell we are so evil that we will soon destroy the planet with Climate Change just form pulling the pop tops on our beers.
Oh geez, wouldn't be surprised to see a surcharge on beer because of the CO2.
611 | irongrampa Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:30:33am |
612 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:30:35am |
re: #585 soxfan4life
and equally as bad, now that they have THE POWER, they have no truly constructive ideas of what to do with it.
613 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:30:55am |
re: #603 opnion
If I remember correctly , Obama won that demographic.
His weakest demographic was White Males under age 65.
No surprise there, we destroyed the Continent & instituted Monday Night Football.
Hell we are so evil that we will soon destroy the planet with Climate Change just form pulling the pop tops on our beers.
A poll I read showed O's support has declined the most with middle-aged,middle income women. My thinking is it's because this is who uses medical sevices the most[and pays for it]. It is also the demographic that takes the children to the Dr.
614 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:31:02am |
615 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:31:06am |
Obama sez...
Weekly Address: Myths and Morality in Health Insurance Reform
616 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:31:11am |
re: #607 opnion
Come on, please tell me that you made that up.
You don't have to with this new admin.
617 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:02am |
re: #579 yma o hyd
And a lot of people think he didn't do it.
Our government know that this man is innocent; the US government knows that this man is innocent; and the Libyan government knows it too. It is pretty certain that the Iranian government—which, entirely coincidentally, had a passenger airliner shot down by an American warship shortly before the Lockerbie bombing—also knows this.
618 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:07am |
re: #615 Killgore Trout
Obama sez...
Weekly Address: Myths and Morality in Health Insurance Reform[Video]
Obama sez... Obama lies? Same difference.
619 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:11am |
re: #610 VioletTiger
Oh geez, wouldn't be surprised to see a surcharge on beer because of the CO2.
But if you act "Stupidly" you can still have beers with Obama.
620 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:18am |
re: #586 yma o hyd
"Oh - and it wasn't a judge who released him, it was the Scottish Minister for Justice."
No doubt a member of Clan Campbell the dirty rotten bastids!
621 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:19am |
622 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:25am |
re: #615 Killgore Trout
Obama sez...
Weekly Address: Myths and Morality in Health Insurance Reform
Do you believe him?
623 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:39am |
re: #615 Killgore Trout
Obama sez...
Weekly Address: Myths and Morality in Health Insurance Reform[Video]
His Weekly address?
624 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:47am |
625 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:14am |
re: #616 VegasRick
They have made satire impossible. It's sad.
626 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:17am |
re: #622 VegasRick
Do you believe him?
I didn't even listen. I figured people here might want to see it.
627 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:38am |
628 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:54am |
re: #615 Killgore Trout
Obama sez...
Weekly Address: Myths and Morality in Health Insurance Reform
I see. So now it's not a "RIGHT" anymore, it's a MORAL DUTY!
If illegals won't get coverage, how did we get to 50 million uncovered?
629 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:34:04am |
630 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:34:12am |
re: #616 VegasRick
You don't have to with this new admin.
This is the silliest, most dangerous group of people to run things.
You have a Science Czar & a health advisor that get all goo goo over Eugenics.
631 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:34:47am |
632 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:34:47am |
re: #626 Killgore Trout
I didn't even listen. I figured people here might want to see it.
633 | bbuddha Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:34:49am |
Just noticed the time, probably should get some chores done.
634 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:35:10am |
re: #624 _RememberTonyC
Hi Sat ... you working today?
Yup,,, got here about 2 hours ago,,, here till 10 tonight. i'm setting up LOTS of NFL games tonight
Doing 8 different games
635 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:35:13am |
636 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:35:26am |
re: #589 opnion Yes I know about Oregon and I don't understand why the Senior citizens and chronically or terminally ill folks are putting up with it. SERIOUSLY.
If you aren't one of the benighted class, you will be one day and you probably have a family member(s) or Friend(s) who aready are.
Stupid, hateful pieces of shit that the Oregonian's are.
637 | irongrampa Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:36:21am |
Out on the lawn this AM with Wonder Lab, and it struck me that I haven't seen lawns this green in late August in a hella while.
Makes me wonder what kinda winter we'll have.
638 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:36:59am |
re: #599 sattv4u2
Morning Rick
I was going to mention that. I heard Rush say that yesterday. Almost drove off the road laughing so hard !
Morning Satt. How are you?
639 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:37:27am |
re: #637 irongrampa
Out on the lawn this AM with Wonder Lab, and it struck me that I haven't seen lawns this green in late August in a hella while.
Makes me wonder what kinda winter we'll have.
According to Al Gore, if we don't act RIGHT NOW, it will be a NUCLEAR ONE
OH NOES!!!
640 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:37:31am |
re: #634 sattv4u2
Yup,,, got here about 2 hours ago,,, here till 10 tonight. i'm setting up LOTS of NFL games tonight
Doing 8 different games
Me too ... going in late tonight ... working on Baseball Tonight ... the Sox need to get their shit together after last night's debacle!
641 | MandyManners Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:37:44am |
re: #637 irongrampa
Out on the lawn this AM with Wonder Lab, and it struck me that I haven't seen lawns this green in late August in a hella while.
Makes me wonder what kinda winter we'll have.
Time to buy some silk long-johns.
642 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:37:56am |
re: #638 VegasRick
Morning Satt. How are you?
Great, pumping up with caffien ,, LONG day at work ahaed
643 | Ojoe Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:38:13am |
Cash for Caskets;
Funds from funerals.
I just now made that one up.
BB
644 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:38:20am |
re: #637 irongrampa
Out on the lawn this AM with Wonder Lab, and it struck me that I haven't seen lawns this green in late August in a hella while.
Makes me wonder what kinda winter we'll have.
Cool wet summer here in Jersey.
Was in Maine for a week and it was the first summer weather they have had. One lady said they were running their heater and fireplace in July.
645 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:38:28am |
That's why the "stimulus" flopped. It didn't just fail to stimulate, it actively deterred stimulation, because it was the first explicit signal to America and the world that the Democrats' political priorities overrode everything else. If you're a business owner, why take on extra employees when cap-and-trade is promising increased regulatory costs, and health "reform" wants to stick you with an 8 percent tax for not having a company insurance plan? Obama's leviathan sends a consistent message to business and consumers alike: When he's spending this crazy, maybe the smart thing for you to do is hunker down until the dust's settled, and you get a better sense of just how broke he's going to make you. For this level of "community organization," there aren't enough of "the rich" to pay for it. That leaves you.For Obama, government health care is the fastest way to a permanent left-of-center political culture in which all elections and most public discourse will be conducted on Democrat terms. It's no surprise that the president can't make a coherent economic or medical argument for Obamacare because that's not what it's about – and for all his cool he can't quite disguise that. Apropos a new poll, the Associated Press reports that Americans "are losing faith in Barack Obama."
"Losing faith"? Oh, no! Fall on your knees and beseech the One: "Give me a sign, O Lord!"
But he has. They're all along empty highways across rural New Hampshire: "This Massive Expansion Of Wasteful Statism Brought To You By Obama Marketing Inc."
646 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:38:28am |
re: #640 _RememberTonyC
Me too ... going in late tonight ... working on Baseball Tonight ... the Sox need to get their shit together after last night's debacle!
I saw that,, SILVER LINING ,,, they had an offense last night
647 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:12am |
re: #637 irongrampa
Out on the lawn this AM with Wonder Lab, and it struck me that I haven't seen lawns this green in late August in a hella while.
Makes me wonder what kinda winter we'll have.
Shitty. And I just moved up hill about 6 weeks ago. 8200 feet to be exact. This past Tuesday evening, it was raining and lightning and thundering and... SNOWING.
Everyone up here is suggesting that it's going to be a really snowy winter. And I mean more snowy than normal in the Colorado Rockies at 8200 feet.
Fun and games.
648 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:13am |
Obama's weekly address Health Care...
Let’s start with the false claim that illegal immigrants will get health insurance under reform. That’s not true. Illegal immigrants would not be
covered.
EMTALA, Federal Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. ERs cannot turn anyone away. Unless HR3200 repeals EMTALA, not true.
Next!
649 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:29am |
Why I don't trust right wing sources on economics news...
MARK STEYN: Stimulus Hits A Pothole. “Meanwhile, in Brazil, India, China, Japan and much of Continental Europe the recession has ended. In the second quarter this year, both the French and German economies grew by 0.3 percent, while the U.S. economy shrank by 1 percent. How can that be? Unlike America, France and Germany had no government stimulus worth speaking of, the Germans declining to go the Obama route on the quaint grounds that they couldn’t afford it. . . . And yet their recession has gone away.
Is this true? As a random fact check I chose to google "Germany Stimulus"...
Historic German Stimulus Package Sails Through Bundestag
I see no need for further fact checking.
650 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:33am |
My youngest kid is going for his driver's license this friday ... gotta take him to practice backing into parking spots ... will check back later.
have a good one, everyone!
651 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:40:24am |
re: #636 realwest
Yes I know about Oregon and I don't understand why the Senior citizens and chronically or terminally ill folks are putting up with it. SERIOUSLY.
If you aren't one of the benighted class, you will be one day and you probably have a family member(s) or Friend(s) who aready are.
Stupid, hateful pieces of shit that the Oregonian's are.
Oregon health care is like a futuristic fantasy. The problem is that it ios real & a smiling, stuttering president is tryin to foist it on the Nation.
The thing that is turning this around is the protestors at the Town Halls.
They are trying to destroy those people, "Evil Mongers, Haters ,a Mob"
Right, all the Soccer moms & elderly vets are sooo evil.
652 | irongrampa Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:40:26am |
re: #644 VioletTiger
Adirondacks here, same thing, cool and wet. Flippin' mosquitoes are lovin it, tho'.
653 | VioletTiger Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:40:37am |
I wonder if Obama knows that his health care bill does not match his description.
I don't think he even read it. He just took Pelosi's word for it.
Shaking off my shoes now.
654 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:41:06am |
re: #642 sattv4u2
Great, pumping up with caffien ,, LONG day at work ahaed
Me too. Big drawing today, headcounts will be over 70%.
655 | _RememberTonyC Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:41:37am |
re: #646 sattv4u2
I saw that,, SILVER LINING ,,, they had an offense last night
Sox can forget winning the east ... gotta focus on wild card and getting healthy for October. See you later!
656 | KenJen Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:42:18am |
re: #644 VioletTiger
Cool wet summer here in Jersey.
Was in Maine for a week and it was the first summer weather they have had. One lady said they were running their heater and fireplace in July.
We had the coldest July on record here in Kentucky. My tomato and squash plants never bloomed. I got a few green beans. Lots of fungus and mold due to so much rain. I liked global warming much better.
657 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:43:17am |
re: #643 Ojoe
Cash for Caskets;
Funds from funerals.
I just now made that one up.
BB
658 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:03am |
re: #617 wahabicorridor
That was what Megrahi's appeal ought to ahve brought out: did he do it, or was it somebody else.
But - he withraw the appeal so that he could be released.
Now we'll never know - jistice certainly has not been done.
For me, this has the dirty fignerprints of NuLab all over it - they let the Scottish Nationalists carry the can, for deniability and so that NuLab can beat them at the next elections.
I'm sure the Scots won't forgive either Gord and NuLab nor the Scottish Nationalists.
659 | sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:11am |
re: #649 Killgore Trout
Did it get final passage?
1st sentence from your link
Germany's lower house of parliament passed the largest stimulus package in the country's post-war history on Friday. Passage through the upper house, however, is far from a sure thing.
660 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:19am |
re: #649 Killgore Trout
Why I don't trust right wing sources on economics news...
Is this true? As a random fact check I chose to google "Germany Stimulus"...Historic German Stimulus Package Sails Through Bundestag
France and Germany had no government stimulus worth speaking of,
Merkel DECLINED a second round.
I see no need for further fact checking.
661 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:39am |
re: #648 jcm
Obama's weekly address Health Care...
And we’ve all heard the charge that reform will somehow bring about a government takeover of health care
Next!
662 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:56am |
re: #643 Ojoe
Cash for Caskets;
Funds from funerals.
I just now made that one up.
BB
Utopia through euthanasia
663 | VegasRick Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:45:33am |
re: #656 KenJen
We had the coldest July on record here in Kentucky. My tomato and squash plants never bloomed. I got a few green beans. Lots of fungus and mold due to so much rain. I liked global warming much better.
We didn't know how good we had it.
664 | yma o hyd Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:45:44am |
re: #620 realwest
"Oh - and it wasn't a judge who released him, it was the Scottish Minister for Justice."
No doubt a member of Clan Campbell the dirty rotten bastids!
Heh!
If the MacAskills are a branch of Clan Campbell, then sure enough!
665 | realwest Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:46:11am |
Cool :
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 29% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 This is the first time since July 31 that the President’s Approval Index has fallen to negative double digits (see trends).
Sixty percent (60%) of liberal voters Strongly Approve while 68% of conservatives Strongly Disapprove. This creates a challenge for the President since there are roughly twice as many conservative voters as liberals. Among those who consider themselves politically moderate, 37% Strongly Approve while 18% Strongly Disapprove.
667 | opnion Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:47:17am |
Latrer , off to take the pup to be groomed.
I have to remember to take his shot records. He is very worried that he will not get Vet treatment under Obama Care.
See ya.
668 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:49:40am |
re: #665 realwest
Cool :
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 29% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 This is the first time since July 31 that the President’s Approval Index has fallen to negative double digits (see trends).Sixty percent (60%) of liberal voters Strongly Approve while 68% of conservatives Strongly Disapprove. This creates a challenge for the President since there are roughly twice as many conservative voters as liberals. Among those who consider themselves politically moderate, 37% Strongly Approve while 18% Strongly Disapprove.
But look what he inherited///
669 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:50:34am |
re: #660 wahabicorridor
Germany approves €50bn stimulus package
Tuesday 27 January 2009 14.16 GMT
Chancellor Angela Merkel's cabinet approved a €50bn (£46.7bn) stimulus package today, the biggest programme in Europe, to tackle overcome the country's deepest economic crisis since the second world war.The package will require a new borrowing level of €36.8bn, more than twice the amount planned for 2009 before the impact of the global crisis on Europe's largest economy was realised. It is also more than three times the amount forecast in the middle of last year. A controversial draft supplementary budget is planned to cover the leap in borrowing.
The programme is equivalent to 1.6% of gross domestic product, and is the biggest of its kind in German history.
It's too easy to check this stuff.
670 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:52:02am |
re: #669 Killgore Trout
Germany approves €50bn stimulus package
Tuesday 27 January 2009 14.16 GMT
It's too easy to check this stuff.
re: #669 Killgore Trout
Germany approves €50bn stimulus package
Tuesday 27 January 2009 14.16 GMT
It's too easy to check this stuff.
If everyone jumps off a cliff...
671 | wahabicorridor Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:53:39am |
re: #669 Killgore Trout
Steyn only said 'to speak of ' compared to what the U.S. is doing, it's trivial.
One thing I DO think he could have pointed out is that one of the reasons the US and UK have been hit so much harder is because we're financial hubs.
672 | n in wi Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:12am |
673 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:25am |
re: #670 jcm
My point is that Steyn's claim that the Germans didn't use a stimulus package is false. It's simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. I assume the rest of the fact and conclusions in his article are also false. It's why I don't read these guys anymore. They're not honest.
674 | razorbacker Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:56am |
re: #656 KenJen
We had the coldest July on record here in Kentucky. My tomato and squash plants never bloomed. I got a few green beans. Lots of fungus and mold due to so much rain. I liked global warming much better.
Okra. We have no okra. The plants are knee-high, instead of the usual reach-way-above-your-shoulders plants of years past.
I like fried okra. It says summertime just like cold sliced cucumber and onions. Something else that didn't produce much.
But, the corn will be spectacular, if we can get another week or two.
675 | jcm Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:55:27am |
re: #673 Killgore Trout
My point is that Steyn's claim that the Germans didn't use a stimulus package is false. It's simply not true by any stretch of the imagination. I assume the rest of the fact and conclusions in his article are also false. It's why I don't read these guys anymore. They're not honest.
Granted.
676 | Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:56:37am |
re: #671 wahabicorridor
The largest government spending and debt in German history isn't what I consider "trivial", "historic" would be more appropriate.