Onion: Obama Home Teleprompter Malfunctions
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:30:38pm |
heard this bit on the radio today ...
Jennifer ... LOL
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:34:45pm |
"President improvised by peppering food, drinking water."
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:35:16pm |
re: #1 _RememberTonyC
Heya TonyC...wasn't that a kick in the nuts the other night?
Could be worse...we could be Browns fans.
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lastlaugh Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:35:31pm |
Usually I love the onion, but, this doesn't seem as sharp as their usual stuff. Six months ago, it would've been hilarious, but, I feel like I've heard the TOTUS jokes 1 too many times.
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sneezey Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:36:32pm |
Funny...seems accurate. Apparently it malfunctioned as well when he said the U.S. had 57 states.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:36:41pm |
re: #3 Fenway_Nation
Heya TonyC...wasn't that a kick in the nuts the other night?
Could be worse...we could be Browns fans.
I woulda punted ... but Bill is a Hall of Fame Coach ...
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recusancy Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:37:22pm |
re: #7 _RememberTonyC
I woulda punted ... but Bill is a Hall of Fame Coach ...
And a documented cheater. Just sayin.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:37:30pm |
re: #7 _RememberTonyC
Whatever happened to you blog, BTW?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:38:37pm |
Alouett iz deprest. All teh Joo haterz. Must stop reading YNet.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:38:52pm |
re: #9 Fenway_Nation
Whatever happened to you blog, BTW?
Fenway nation ... i have been very lazy ... lots of work lately ... i will try and do some work on it and put the link back up. thanks for asking
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:39:31pm |
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recusancy Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:39:55pm |
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:40:11pm |
re: #3 Fenway_Nation
Heya TonyC...wasn't that a kick in the nuts the other night?
Could be worse...we could be Browns fans.
You notice I haven't bragged once about the game...But jeez..Have you ever seen anything like it?
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:41:07pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:41:29pm |
The prompter is there to remind the President to speak, blink and breathe.
heehee
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:42:02pm |
re: #10 lastlaugh
The Biden joke, however, was great.
Hey, where is Biden anyway... anyone seen him lately?
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:42:04pm |
re: #15 HoosierHoops
You notice I haven't bragged once about the game...But jeez..Have you ever seen anything like it?
that's because you're a classy guy! and the pacers beat the celts too ... lost weekend in the hoosier state for my teams :(
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lastlaugh Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:42:09pm |
re: #14 recusancy
Lions fan... So I'm always sour.
I'm a Raiders fan, I just assume the NFL is on strike until further notice.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:42:39pm |
re: #15 HoosierHoops
You notice I haven't bragged once about the game...But jeez..Have you ever seen anything like it?
Hey Hoops!! The game was a ball breaker alright, but, just a game. I cannot believe the reaction! It is a bit over the top. They had a 50/50 shot, had they made it, they would have been world beaters. The outrage over a football play, I find vastly amusing! (And I am a die hard Pats fan!)
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:43:45pm |
re: #18 brookly red
Hey, where is Biden anyway... anyone seen him lately?
Biden is the new White House under-gardener
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lastlaugh Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:45:02pm |
re: #18 brookly red
Hey, where is Biden anyway... anyone seen him lately?
Obama has him on a super secret and important mission: Making sure the white house bee doesn't escape its jar.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:45:06pm |
re: #24 CapeCoddah
Biden is the new White House under-gardener
no one has seen Hillary for a while either...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:45:27pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:47:53pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:51:16pm |
re: #31 MandyManners
STRANGER! Long time, no see.
MANDY!!! How the heck are ya??
How is your boy... hope he recovered well from the flu!
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:53:38pm |
re: #33 CapeCoddah
MANDY!!! How the heck are ya??
How is your boy... hope he recovered well from the flu!
He bounced back quickly. How're things with you?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:54:17pm |
re: #21 CapeCoddah
Good to see you around again.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:56:42pm |
re: #34 MandyManners
He bounced back quickly. How're things with you?
Things are well here, finally slowing down for the winter, so I will hopefully have more time to be social, especially since my husband un-retired. Lots of time home alone during the day now... getting bored!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:56:47pm |
Unfortuately not from The Onion...
Biden Security Detail In Car Crash In New York
According to NBC New York, three advance NYPD vehicles "were moving down 49th Street near 10th Avenue when they slammed into the back of a livery cab."
Reports vary on whether Biden was in the motorcade at the time, with the New York Post claiming he was and NBC New York reporting that he was not.
Reached for comment, an NYPD detective said that three people were injured in the collision.
This is the third car accident involving Biden's motorcade or security detail in less than a week.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:57:56pm |
Thanks, KT, good to have time to chat, rather than just skim for a fwew minutes at a time!. I was suffering from a bit of a case of internet burnout also. Over it!
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:58:18pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
Unfortuately not from The Onion...
Biden Security Detail In Car Crash In New York
musta been something he said...
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Racer X Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:59:43pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
Unfortuately not from The Onion...
Biden Security Detail In Car Crash In New York
Hillary you magnificent . . .
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:59:45pm |
re: #38 CapeCoddah
Thanks, KT, good to have time to chat, rather than just skim for a fwew minutes at a time!. I was suffering from a bit of a case of internet burnout also. Over it!
Be well..Be strong..We missed you..
Even if you are a Pat's fan...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 5:59:55pm |
re: #37 Killgore Trout
Unfortuately not from The Onion...
Biden Security Detail In Car Crash In New York
Well, after seeing 'ole Joe singing "The Villages" drunk as a skunk, I am wondering if he has been driving his own limo when the USSS is not lookin!
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:00:54pm |
Heya Hoops,, Will do! And as far as the Pats fan crack...PFFFTTT
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:01:39pm |
re: #42 CapeCoddah
Well, after seeing 'ole Joe singing "The Villages" drunk as a skunk, I am wondering if he has been driving his own limo when the USSS is not lookin!
then again those livery cabs are uhhh, dangerous.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:03:08pm |
re: #44 brookly red
then again those livery cabs are uhhh, dangerous.
HEY>>>HEY>>> I runs a Livery bidness... I am NOT dangerous... ANYONE SEEN MY GLASSES?
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:04:38pm |
re: #45 CapeCoddah
HEY>>>HEY>>> I runs a Livery bidness... I am NOT dangerous... ANYONE SEEN MY GLASSES?
What is a livery bidness? never heard of that
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Racer X Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:04:55pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:06:35pm |
re: #46 HoosierHoops
What is a livery bidness? never heard of that
A limo company, Hoops! The typos were deliberate
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:07:36pm |
re: #46 HoosierHoops
What is a livery bidness? never heard of that
A taxi is just that, A livery vehicle is a private limousine for hire
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:08:46pm |
re: #36 CapeCoddah
Things are well here, finally slowing down for the winter, so I will hopefully have more time to be social, especially since my husband un-retired. Lots of time home alone during the day now... getting bored!
Got a hobby?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:09:04pm |
re: #49 CapeCoddah
A taxi is just that, A livery vehicle is a private limousine for hire
uhhh, it's different in NYC...
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:09:42pm |
re: #42 CapeCoddah
I almost wonder if it's because of heightened security. Terrorists attacks often create roadblocks by obstructing traffic even rolling baby carriages out in the street to get a car to slow down. I can't believe that the secret service is just crashing a lot all of a sudden out of incompetence.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:10:01pm |
re: #50 MandyManners
Got a hobby?
Mountain Climbing...too late in the season, I do not do winter climbs...no death wish. No mountains on the Cape. Just sand.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:10:35pm |
re: #53 CapeCoddah
Mountain Climbing...too late in the season, I do not do winter climbs...no death wish. No mountains on the Cape. Just sand.
Got a really big bucket?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:11:07pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
I almost wonder if it's because of heightened security. Terrorists attacks often create roadblocks by obstructing traffic even rolling baby carriages out in the street to get a car to slow down. I can't believe that the secret service is just crashing a lot all of a sudden out of incompetence.
or perhaps it was something he said...
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:11:31pm |
re: #49 CapeCoddah
A taxi is just that, A livery vehicle is a private limousine for hire
Oh Gosh..I just remembered last summer you had a friend that was adopted and contacted me..How is he doing? Did he find his birth parents? I lost contact with him..
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:13:04pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
I almost wonder if it's because of heightened security. Terrorists attacks often create roadblocks by obstructing traffic even rolling baby carriages out in the street to get a car to slow down. I can't believe that the secret service is just crashing a lot all of a sudden out of incompetence.
Have never thought of that, KT, and not being much of a conspiracy theorist, probably would not have. But, I have never in my life heard of a MVA in the presidential or VP motorcades, now, 3 in a week... Hmmm, you may just be on to something.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:13:31pm |
The neediest cat ever: Dash Cam Video: Cat and Cop Face Off
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:14:17pm |
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:14:26pm |
re: #52 Killgore Trout
The latest crash was far enough ahead of Biden's vehicle that police were able to push the cars out of the way to allow Biden to pass unimpeded on his way to an appearance on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:14:38pm |
re: #57 CapeCoddah
It's a stretch but I can't think of another reason. I'm sure a lot of people are getting yelled at no matter what the problem is.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:16:20pm |
re: #56 HoosierHoops
Oh Gosh..I just remembered last summer you had a friend that was adopted and contacted me..How is he doing? Did he find his birth parents? I lost contact with him..
It was his wife looking for her parents,, They are still working on it, as Tom lost a brother and sister 2 weeks apart around the time you helped them out.
They are just getting back on track from running around helping both of those families out. I will let you know when she resumes the search if she finds anything out!
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:17:19pm |
re: #61 Killgore Trout
It's a stretch but I can't think of another reason. I'm sure a lot of people are getting yelled at no matter what the problem is.
I have to agree. The only other thing I can think of is that Joe is driving.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:17:40pm |
re: #57 CapeCoddah
Actually, it's happened before - and sometimes they come in bunches. I can recall a police officer dying in a Bush motorcade in New Mexico. That followed a similar accident that resulted in a police officer dying on a rain slicked road in Hawaii.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:17:40pm |
re: #57 CapeCoddah
Have never thought of that, KT, and not being much of a conspiracy theorist, probably would not have. But, I have never in my life heard of a MVA in the presidential or VP motorcades, now, 3 in a week... Hmmm, you may just be on to something.
Hmmm...I wonder if someone is trying to put Biden under a bus.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:18:49pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:19:30pm |
re: #65 Spare O'Lake
Hmmm...I wonder if someone is trying to put Biden under a bus.
In Brooklyn we have a saying... accidents happen. they happen more if the boss don't like you.
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:21:37pm |
re: #59 CapeCoddah
Where are you located on the Cape? My cousin and her husband run a large real estate agency in Wellfleet.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:22:11pm |
re: #69 Cheechako
Where are you located on the Cape? My cousin and her husband run a large real estate agency in Wellfleet.
I am in Harwich Port. Which agency?
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:22:15pm |
re: #64 lawhawk
Actually, it's happened before - and sometimes they come in bunches. I can recall a police officer dying in a Bush motorcade in New Mexico. That followed a similar accident that resulted in a police officer dying on a rain slicked road in Hawaii.
that's still mystifying...a tree lined little one way road at the ABQ Sunport...he must have accelerated for some reason and lost it...I pass that spot all the time and can't figure it out...extreme bad luck I guess
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:23:09pm |
re: #11 Alouette
Alouett iz deprest. All teh Joo haterz. Must stop reading YNet.
Do what the ancients did--fall back on food. My wife has a Good Republican
mushroom soup recipe, if Microsoft will let me send it to you.
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:23:43pm |
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:25:11pm |
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:26:57pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:27:26pm |
re: #75 Capitalist Tool
hard by Nantucket Sleighride
LOL... not many folks know what that is!
I have sen that agency,,, on rt 6 in Wellfleet
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:27:40pm |
Actually Cape Cod Realty (PIMF)
Haven't visited in 10 years so don't know the neighborhood.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:28:19pm |
re: #79 Cheechako
Well, no excuse for that, you must come visit!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:28:55pm |
Listening to some harp guitar, talkin' to my buds, learnin' about history...
-Fat Bastard Spicoli
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:28:56pm |
re: #79 Cheechako
Actually Cape Cod Realty (PIMF)
Haven't visited in 10 years so don't know the neighborhood.
Ha! Reality is not something that blesses many of the more affluent residents of Cape Cod.
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solomonpanting Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:29:19pm |
Just to clarify how important the Nobel Peace Prize really is...
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:29:20pm |
The five apparently include three death sentences announced last month. None of the five have been identified by Iranian authorities.
Iran began the mass trial in August of more than 100 prominent opposition figures and activists, accusing them of a range of charges from rioting to spying and plotting what Iran's clerical rulers have depicted as a foreign-backed plot to oust them from power.
SNIP
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:29:44pm |
re: #81 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Listening to some harp guitar, talkin' to my buds, learnin' about history...
-Fat Bastard Spicoli
I dig history, what did you learn?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:29:52pm |
re: #82 Bloodnok
Ha! Reality is not something that blesses many of the more affluent residents of Cape Cod.
About half, I find.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:30:50pm |
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:30:54pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:31:04pm |
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:31:08pm |
re: #80 CapeCoddah
Well, no excuse for that, you must come visit!
Will be back one of these days. I think her husband's family came over in the Mayflower.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:31:27pm |
Spain's prime minister did little to deny paying off the hijackers — one reason the lucrative attacks are on the rise.
SNIP
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:32:19pm |
re: #90 Cheechako
Will be back one of these days. I think her husband's family came over in the Mayflower.
Must be Crowells or Nickersons then, in this area.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:33:33pm |
re: #91 MandyManners
SNIP
still think a gunboat tour of the coast would work wonders...
do we still have gunboats ala the New Jersey?
have they given it all up for missile frigates and carriers?
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:35:11pm |
Bibi utters a "fuck you" to BHO.
The Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth said U.S. President Barack Obama's envoy, George Mitchell, had asked an aide to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, at a meeting in London on Monday, to block the proposed construction at the settlement of Gilo.
But a government planning commission approved the addition of 900 housing units at Gilo, where 40,000 Israelis already live.
The Israeli decision drew an unusually sharply worded rebuke from the White House, which said it was "dismayed" and accused Israel of undermining Obama's efforts to resume peace talks with Palestinians stalled since December.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:35:34pm |
re: #91 MandyManners
SNIP
Every one says that the are is too big to protect, but if they just blocaded the joint there would be nowhere to bring a hijacked ship to. IMO
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SteveC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:35:44pm |
re: #64 lawhawk
Actually, it's happened before - and sometimes they come in bunches. I can recall a police officer dying in a Bush motorcade in New Mexico. That followed a similar accident that resulted in a police officer dying on a rain slicked road in Hawaii.
President Ford's limo was smashed by a car in Hartford, Connecticut. The limo kept on rolling. The other driver (19) had some 'splaining to do!
/Dad... I've wrecked the car...
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:36:11pm |
re: #91 MandyManners
SNIP
first obligation is the safety of the crew, second obligation is run down the pirates and sink them...fail
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:37:02pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
Bibi utters a "fuck you" to BHO.
It's not even a 'fuck you'. It's just that there's no point in catering to Washington's obsession with West Bank condos.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:37:27pm |
re: #95 brookly red
Every one says that the are is too big to protect, but if they just blocaded the joint there would be nowhere to bring a hijacked ship to. IMO
Brookley, it would take all the worlds navies to blockade the area, vast is an understatement.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:37:45pm |
re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist
It's not even a 'fuck you'. It's just that there's no point in catering to Washington's obsession with West Bank condos.
Look how well that catering turned out in Gaza.
Fool me once. . . .
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:38:07pm |
the free world are cowards...'cept us...it will take a no holds barred attitude to stop Samolian piracy...nobody wants to do it
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:38:34pm |
re: #101 CapeCoddah
Brookley, it would take all the worlds navies to blockade the area, vast is an understatement.
the whole area yes, the ports no.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:39:24pm |
re: #98 albusteve
first obligation is the safety of the crew, second obligation is run down the pirates and sink them...fail
Tour the Somali coast and obliterate every new mansion, every Mercedes, etc.
ALL of the wealth for such things comes from piracy, or so I've heard, along with huge baksheesh to the Islamofascists.
They're all a pack of traditional pirates, slavers and drug runners.
Hit 'em where they live.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:40:11pm |
re: #104 brookly red
the whole area yes, the ports no.
exactly...pretty simple in fact, unless you muddle it all up with international law etc ...define the problem, fix it
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:41:05pm |
re: #105 Capitalist Tool
Tour the Somali coast and obliterate every new mansion, every Mercedes, etc.
ALL of the wealth for such things comes from piracy, or so I've heard, along with huge baksheesh to the Islamofascists.
They're all a pack of traditional pirates, slavers and drug runners.
Hit 'em where they live.
CAPITALISM!...spit
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:42:09pm |
re: #106 albusteve
exactly...pretty simple in fact, unless you muddle it all up with international law etc ...define the problem, fix it
nothing goes out, nothing comes in...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:43:01pm |
Something I like about Obama.
Pop! Pop! Pop!
Three dead pirates.
Short list. But, kudos.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:43:30pm |
re: #108 brookly red
nothing goes out, nothing comes in...
While they actively seek and destroy the mother ships...
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:44:23pm |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:44:46pm |
re: #103 albusteve
the free world are cowards...'cept us...it will take a no holds barred attitude to stop Samolian piracy...nobody wants to do it
It will cost quite a few Samolians.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:44:50pm |
re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Something I like about Obama.
Pop! Pop! Pop!
Three dead pirates.Short list. But, kudos.
Hey FBV!! The ONE did not have a choice there...
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SteveC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:45:01pm |
re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Something I like about Obama.
Pop! Pop! Pop!
Three dead pirates.Short list. But, kudos.
You know the song: 18 men on a dead man's chest. We were feeling generous that day, but piss us off and we'll be back for the other 15!
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:46:03pm |
re: #111 Cheechako
Crowells
LOL, Those were the two biggest landowning Mayflower families on Cape. They both are in real estate to this day, they still own a lot of land.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:46:23pm |
re: #112 Racer X
Nope. Didn't see that comin.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:46:50pm |
re: #113 Spare O'Lake
It will cost quite a few Samolians.
too bad...we are all of the same nest...these people are making it difficult for the rest of us...they need to be dealt with...Somolia is a madhouse
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:46:58pm |
re: #113 Spare O'Lake
It will cost quite a few Samolians.
how did it go? millions for defense, but not one penny for tribute... something like that.
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:47:19pm |
re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Something I like about Obama.
Pop! Pop! Pop!
Three dead pirates.Short list. But, kudos.
One of these days they will figure out a gunboat escorting a oil tanker for a half a million dollars beats a 3-5 million dollar Ransom...How freaking stupid are these guys?
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solomonpanting Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:48:18pm |
re: #101 CapeCoddah
Brookley, it would take all the worlds navies to blockade the area, vast is an understatement.
But, couldn't we employ the same detection system being used to stop illegals crossing our borders?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:48:21pm |
re: #121 HoosierHoops
One of these days they will figure out a gunboat escorting a oil tanker for a half a million dollars beats a 3-5 million dollar Ransom...How freaking stupid are these guys?
That would be too much common sense Hoops.. What are you thinking!?/
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:49:26pm |
re: #121 HoosierHoops
One of these days they will figure out a gunboat escorting a oil tanker for a half a million dollars beats a 3-5 million dollar Ransom...How freaking stupid are these guys?
the Human Rights Commission is a loud and powerful (corrupt) voice...stuff like this pirate problem makes me wonder if modern man really wants to survive or not
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:49:34pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:50:01pm |
re: #122 solomonpanting
Jeeze...thats just nuts. No excuse for a nation like ours to allow that to happen. Shame on us.
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Cheechako Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:50:09pm |
re: #116 CapeCoddah
LOL, Those were the two biggest landowning Mayflower families on Cape. They both are in real estate to this day, they still own a lot of land.
Your right, although the Park Service took a lot of it.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:50:11pm |
HoosierHoops
My friend checked into the Mayo Clinic today - her surgery is tomorrow. I spoke to her earlier, she's pretty upbeat.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:50:15pm |
re: #126 HoosierHoops
Good! You're so sweet to keep it for us.
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:51:10pm |
re: #129 SteveC
HoosierHoops
My friend checked into the Mayo Clinic today - her surgery is tomorrow. I spoke to her earlier, she's pretty upbeat.
What is her name?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:52:34pm |
re: #122 solomonpanting
But, couldn't we employ the same detection system being used to stop illegals crossing our borders?
/oh great, we can round em up & give em health care...
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:53:06pm |
I hate the feds...nine out of ten times they do exactly the wrong thing...the Somalians don't give a shit if three of their neighbors get greased by US snipers...you have to do it every time...life is cheap over there
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:53:14pm |
re: #128 Cheechako
Yes, the National Seashore. It is extremely delicate land. I am not one for taking, but this needed to be protected, it is critical that it be kept in tact... to keep the lower cape from washing away faster than it is presently.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:54:16pm |
re: #135 CapeCoddah
Yes, the National Seashore. It is extremely delicate land. I am not one for taking, but this needed to be protected, it is critical that it be kept in tact... to keep the lower cape from washing away faster than it is presently.
WIND FARMS!
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:55:25pm |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:56:51pm |
re: #135 CapeCoddah
Yes, the National Seashore. It is extremely delicate land. I am not one for taking, but this needed to be protected, it is critical that it be kept in tact... to keep the lower cape from washing away faster than it is presently.
Forget about it, haven't you heard that the sea level is going up by 25 feet?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:57:30pm |
re: #135 CapeCoddah
Yes, the National Seashore. It is extremely delicate land. I am not one for taking, but this needed to be protected, it is critical that it be kept in tact... to keep the lower cape from washing away faster than it is presently.
I am willing to dig up and move the entire state of New Jersey if that is what it takes!
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SteveC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:58:07pm |
re: #136 Bear
I do hope that all goes well for your friend.
Thank you!
It's a heart valve replacement - the numbers say it is low risk. (Of course when it is YOU on the table, you worry about a lot more than the numbers!)
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:58:09pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Settlement never were and never will be an impediment to peace; Palestinian refusal to accept Israel's existence and demands for a Jew-free Palestine are. Everything else is a smokescreen.
So too is Abbas' game of claiming that he wont run for PA chief, even though the PA is prepping to go and making him el Presidente for life as they're about ready to suspend elections scheduled for January.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:58:21pm |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
Forget about it, haven't you heard that the sea level is going up by 25 feet?
is there such a thing as AGW insurance?...rising sea level protection?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:58:38pm |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
Forget about it, haven't you heard that the sea level is going up by 25 feet?
Crap,I forgot. AlBore, right?
Where can I send in my pop tarts box tops for my free carbon crcedits and my secret squirrel decoder ring?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:59:16pm |
re: #140 brookly red
I am willing to dig up and move the entire state of New Jersey if that is what it takes!
LOL< THAT can only improve the view!
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:59:28pm |
OT: Sigh...persistent ain't he?
BEIJING - President Barack Obama, with China's leader at his side, lifted his sights Tuesday for a broad accord at next month's climate conference that he said will lead to immediate action and "rally the world" toward a solution on global warming.
Obama and President Hu Jintao talked of a joint desire to tackle climate change, but failed to publicly address the root problems that could unravel a deal at the 192-nation conference in Copenhagen: how much each country can contribute to curb greenhouse gases and how the world will pay the billions of dollars needed to fight rising temperatures.
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SteveC Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:59:38pm |
re: #139 Spare O'Lake
Forget about it, haven't you heard that the sea level is going up by 25 feet?
Won't that turn those windfarms into propellers?
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 6:59:40pm |
re: #140 brookly red
I am willing to dig up and move the entire state of New Jersey if that is what it takes!
on second thought, let's offer New Jersey as tribute...here take this!
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:00:24pm |
re: #143 albusteve
is there such a thing as AGW insurance?...rising sea level protection?
uhhh, why sure there is... how much would you like?
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:01:43pm |
re: #130 Sharmuta
Good! You're so sweet to keep it for us.
My laptop crashed..I have no backup..I'm starting from scratch here...
I'm going to blue my nic this week for more request..
I'm going to ask the stalker site not to trash me like in the past and spam me..
Please...There are some things we should respect...When the Goddessoftheclassroom posts a prayer list I deeply respect her and pray for them..She prays for me...I pray for her...
Let's not bring bitterness and ugliness to the Sunday morning prayers for our fellow lizards and friends.. It's just not right..Please...
-The Hoopster
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:01:59pm |
re: #148 albusteve
on second thought, let's offer New Jersey as tribute...here take this!
dude been to newark lately...
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:02:32pm |
re: #146 ausador
OT: Sigh...persistent ain't he?
BO says all kinds of goofy stuff...he is not trustworthy and his flimsy record proves it...he just likes the sound of his own voice...grand!, promising!, salvation!...good grief what a kook
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:02:51pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:03:18pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:04:20pm |
re: #151 HoosierHoops
Hon- create a free email account just for the prayer list at yahoo or gmail. Like HoosierHoops@yahoo or whatever. Don't open yourself up to harassment from the stalker maggots.
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avanti Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:05:15pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:05:29pm |
re: #155 CapeCoddah
I saw about 10 pictures from the wedding on the bottom left a few years ago.
YEARS ago, and remember pictures of a specific internet stranger couple. And remember their outfits.
With amazing clarity do I remember it.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:05:52pm |
Hoops- Maybe a free email account like LGFPrayerList@yahoo. Then the next person who took care of the list after you would have an email account to go along with it for future requests.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:05:54pm |
re: #152 brookly red
dude been to newark lately...
well, they could part out Jresey...sand, pine trees, recycled asphalt, ummm, hold on
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:06:28pm |
re: #157 Sharmuta
Hon- create a free email account just for the prayer list at yahoo or gmail. Like HoosierHoops@yahoo or whatever. Don't open yourself up to harassment from the stalker maggots.
Good idea..Thanks... I'm FED-EXing my daughter Saturday.. I'll get that package out to you...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:07:02pm |
re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I saw about 10 pictures from the wedding on the bottom left a few years ago.
YEARS ago, and remember pictures of a specific internet stranger couple. And remember their outfits.
With amazing clarity do I remember it.
I bet... have the nightmares subsided yet?...was the little guy in red ever found/ heard from again?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:07:11pm |
re: #162 HoosierHoops
Good idea..Thanks... I'm FED-EXing my daughter Saturday.. I'll get that package out to you...
That's even cheaper than Grayhound...
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:07:20pm |
re: #143 albusteve
is there such a thing as AGW insurance?...rising sea level protection?
Sure there is. It comes as a homeowner's enhanced package, along with end of times coverage.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:07:56pm |
re: #163 CapeCoddah
I bet... have the nightmares subsided yet?...was the little guy in red ever found/ heard from again?
He was found... a little worse for wear... but, he was found.
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avanti Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:08:20pm |
BTW, the National Geo special on the secret 1946 Japanese subs is on now.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:08:50pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:09:13pm |
re: #162 HoosierHoops
Good idea..Thanks... I'm FED-EXing my daughter Saturday.. I'll get that package out to you...
I'm not worried, Dear. I know you'll take care of me. Love ya, {Hoops}.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:09:22pm |
Evening lizards.
This may have been posted but it never gets old.
NY ex-lawyer ordered to prison in terror case
NEW YORK – A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld the conviction of a disbarred civil rights lawyer and ordered her to begin serving her sentence while a judge reconsiders whether he was too lenient in giving her more than two years in prison for passing information between suspected terrorists.
Lynne Stewart, 70, has been free on appeal since she was sentenced in 2006. The three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals issued its nearly 200-page ruling almost two years after hearing arguments in the case.
Heh.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:09:49pm |
re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He was found... a little worse for wear... but, he was found.
LOL, Must not go farther with this line...
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:10:37pm |
re: #162 HoosierHoops
Good idea..Thanks... I'm FED-EXing my daughter Saturday.. I'll get that package out to you...
How will you get her into that envelope?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:10:51pm |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM!
Twinkie cream is whipped beef fat (read the label) , sorry dude.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:11:00pm |
Where's guanxi?
He'd like this.
ATHF in Russian!
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:11:37pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:11:41pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:11:43pm |
re: #173 MandyManners
How will you get her into that envelope?
I had the same idea... failed miserably in execution and spelling.
Nice, Mandy.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:12:09pm |
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avanti Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:12:34pm |
re: #172 Bear
1946?
I think they were sunk right after the war rather than share them with the Russians.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:12:41pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:13:43pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:13:47pm |
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:13:47pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:14:38pm |
I never liked Twinkies. What's the point? There's no chocolate.
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:14:40pm |
re: #170 NJDhockeyfan
No, it certainly doesn't get old. Stewart should look forward to spending the rest of her life in prison; 28 months is going to be the low end of what should be a very long stay in Club Fed. She was looking at 30 years, and the appeals court said that the trial court was way too lenient in giving her what amounted to a slap on the wrist for not only helping a terrorist, but lying to the courts - as an officer of the court no less.
Throw the book at her, not a slap on the wrist.
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Digital Display Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:15:13pm |
re: #181 albusteve
stuffed full of styrofoam peanuts
LOL
Last year on my birthday my workmates filled my entire cube full of styrofoam peanuts...That was so messed up..They still laugh at me...Bastards!
LOL
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lawhawk Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:15:31pm |
re: #185 Sharmuta
Well, you could drizzle chocolate syrup on it. Or dip it in chocolate sauce...
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:15:46pm |
re: #185 Sharmuta
I never liked Twinkies. What's the point? There's no chocolate.
ring-dings use beef fat too...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:15:56pm |
re: #174 brookly red
Twinkie cream is whipped beef fat (read the label) , sorry dude.
YOU'RE A FLIPPIN' LIAR! LIAR!
The list of ingredients of a Twinkie is a veritable Who's Who of the food chemical world and the following is a list of ingredients as provided on a ten-pack of Twinkies. Take a deep breath:
* Enriched Wheat Flour - enriched with ferrous sulphate (iron), B vitamins (niacin, thiamine mononitrate [B1], ribofavin [B12] and folic acid).
* Sugar
* Corn syrup
* Water
* High fructose corn syrup
* Vegetable and/or animal shortening - containing one or more of partially hydrogenated soybean, cottonseed or canola oil, and beef fat.
* Dextrose
* Whole eggs
How's your stomach? Really? Oh dear... Well hold tight because Twinkies also contain 2% or less of:
* Modified corn starch
* Cellulose gum
* Whey
* Leavenings (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda, monocalcium phosphate)
* Salt
* Cornstarch
* Corn flour
* Corn syrup solids
* Mono and diglycerides
* Soy lecithin
* Polysorbate 60
* Dextrin
* Calcium caseinate
* Sodium stearol lactylate
* Wheat gluten
* Calcium sulphate
* Natural and artificial flavours
* Caramel colour
* Sorbic acid (to retain freshness)
* Colour added (yellow 5, red 40)
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:16:00pm |
re: #188 lawhawk
Well, you could drizzle chocolate syrup on it. Or dip it in chocolate sauce...
Why would I defile chocolate like that?
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:16:02pm |
re: #185 Sharmuta
I never liked Twinkies. What's the point? There's no chocolate.
A chocolate twinkie is a Devil Dog. Kinda.
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Bear Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:16:06pm |
re: #179 Decatur Deb
OK I thought for a minute my mind had gone down since I was stationed at an Ordnance Base between Tokyo and Yokohama from late 1945 to early September 1946.
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bosforus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:16:07pm |
re: #188 lawhawk
Well, you could drizzle chocolate syrup on it. Or dip it in chocolate sauce...
That's what she said.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:16:30pm |
re: #185 Sharmuta
I never liked Twinkies. What's the point? There's no chocolate.
agreed...Ding Dongs!
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:17:00pm |
Twinkie, deconstructed:
[Link: www.twinkiedeconstructed.com...]
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:17:48pm |
re: #189 brookly red
ring-dings use beef fat too...
If you badmouth Joe E Louis or Lune Moons I'm gonna get really mad.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:18:25pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:18:32pm |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
YOU'RE A FLIPPIN' LIAR! LIAR!
The list of ingredients of a Twinkie is a veritable Who's Who of the food chemical world and the following is a list of ingredients as provided on a ten-pack of Twinkies. Take a deep breath:
* Enriched Wheat Flour - enriched with ferrous sulphate (iron), B vitamins (niacin, thiamine mononitrate [B1], ribofavin [B12] and folic acid).
* Sugar
* Corn syrup
* Water
* High fructose corn syrup
* Vegetable and/or animal shortening - containing one or more of partially hydrogenated soybean, cottonseed or canola oil, and beef fat.
* Dextrose
* Whole eggsread it & weep
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:18:35pm |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, shit. Animal shortening.
Guess its back to the woman who I have been having an affair with. She ain't exactly a hottie, but she sure can bake.
Little Debbie!? I'm a comin' to see ya!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:18:59pm |
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Bear Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:19:24pm |
re: #180 avanti
That undoubtedly was the case since Gen. McArthur was reported to have known the Russians were not our friend then.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:19:26pm |
re: #203 lawhawk
You can have the Twinkie, and I'll have the chocolate dipping sauce. :D
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:20:44pm |
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:20:58pm |
re: #206 Sharmuta
You can have the Twinkie, and I'll have the chocolate dipping sauce. :D
I only do Twinkies with chocolate milk...break even
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:21:06pm |
Dr. Egon Spengler: I'm worried, Ray. All my readings point to something big on the horizon.
Winston Zeddemore: What do you mean, big?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal amount of psychokinetic energy in the New York area. Based on this morning's reading, it would be a Twinkie thirty-five feet long, weighing approximately six hundred pounds.
Winston Zeddemore: That's a big Twinkie.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:22:19pm |
re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dr. Egon Spengler: I'm worried, Ray. All my readings point to something big on the horizon.
Winston Zeddemore: What do you mean, big?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal amount of psychokinetic energy in the New York area. Based on this morning's reading, it would be a Twinkie thirty-five feet long, weighing approximately six hundred pounds.
Winston Zeddemore: That's a big Twinkie.
OK- lawhawk can have that Twinkie if I can have the comparable amount of chocolate dipping sauce.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:22:32pm |
re: #205 Bear
That undoubtedly was the case since Gen. McArthur was reported to have known the Russians were not our friend then.
Back Track Mac was a rube...not a fighting general...but he photographed well and had hid admirers
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:23:22pm |
They deep-fry Twinkies down here. Health food.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:23:59pm |
re: #201 brookly red
You do know I will never eat another Twinkie, right.
You suck for telling me that.
/
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:24:13pm |
re: #213 Decatur Deb
They deep-fry Twinkies down here. Health food.
EWWW. That is just wrong on so many levels...
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:25:12pm |
re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You do know I will never eat another Twinkie, right.
You suck for telling me that.
/
gummie bears are made from cow cartilage too...
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:25:24pm |
Sy Syms, off-price apparel pioneer, dead at 83
I landscaped his property in Greenwich, Ct one summer. Heck of a nice guy.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:25:33pm |
re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You do know I will never eat another Twinkie, right.
You suck for telling me that.
/
you should have known...my body is a temple
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:26:10pm |
Chocolate Burritos recipe:
[Link: www.foodnetwork.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:26:21pm |
re: #217 brookly red
gummie bears are made from cow cartilage too...
That's why I don't do jello shots...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:27:40pm |
re: #212 lawhawk
In bed? /
Mrs lawhawk won't mind sharing the bed with a 35 foot long Twinkie?
/that sounds dirty...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:28:37pm |
re: #222 Sharmuta
Mrs lawhawk won't mind sharing the bed with a 35 foot long Twinkie?
...in bed ...oh
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:28:42pm |
re: #220 jaunte
Chocolate Burritos recipe:
[Link: www.foodnetwork.com...]
gawd!...they're serious...is nothing sacred?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:28:52pm |
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Bear Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:29:02pm |
re: #211 albusteve
You mean Dugout Doug? Yes compare the mess we had in Germany the year after the war with what happened in Japan when around a month of the Japanese surrender we were not allowed to carry weapons and I was told that was not the case in Germany. Mac knew the Oriental mind set pretty well.
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Raryn Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:29:33pm |
In other news, the stimulus has created/saved so many jobs, it has even done so in districts that don't exist.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:29:39pm |
re: #224 albusteve
gawd!...they're serious...is nothing sacred?
I'd never heard of it, but apparently they're everywhere:
[Link: www.google.com...]
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:29:52pm |
re: #211 albusteve
Back Track Mac was a rube...not a fighting general...but he photographed well and had hid admirers
Where did he hide them?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:30:36pm |
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:30:44pm |
re: #225 brookly red
brownies are still safe...
my all time favorite baked good...the indispensable Brownie...good job!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:31:03pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What does it mean when chocolate melts in your hand?
That you're a slow eater.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:31:11pm |
re: #224 albusteve
gawd!...they're serious...is nothing sacred?
it all started when some heretic put pineapple on pizza & the world has been in the shitter ever since.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:31:27pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What does it mean when chocolate melts in your hand?
You're not eating it fast enough.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:31:27pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What does it mean when chocolate melts in your hand?
You're not dead.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:31:53pm |
re: #226 Bear
You mean Dugout Doug? Yes compare the mess we had in Germany the year after the war with what happened in Japan when around a month of the Japanese surrender we were not allowed to carry weapons and I was told that was not the case in Germany. Mac knew the Oriental mind set pretty well.
his Golden Hour, the dictatorship of Japan...nice job
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:32:28pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:33:14pm |
re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Deb means that the chocolate isn't in a cold dead hand.
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Racer X Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:33:14pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What does it mean when chocolate melts in your hand?
You're doing it wrong.
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:33:14pm |
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:33:20pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:34:31pm |
re: #170 NJDhockeyfan
Evening lizards.
This may have been posted but it never gets old.
NY ex-lawyer ordered to prison in terror case
Heh.
Sometimes, schadenfreude is rich, delicious, and deserved.
/they used to hang traitors, Lynne, you b**ch...
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:34:51pm |
re: #235 brookly red
it all started when some heretic put pineapple on pizza & the world has been in the shitter ever since.
nobody outside of NYC even knows what a pizza is...Chicagoans are wannabees in that regard
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:35:12pm |
Good evening, folks.
Night John-Boy!
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:35:20pm |
re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yodels and Devil Dogs are kosher, although they contain dairy if you're a vegan.
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J.S. Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:35:21pm |
OT
CNN is now reporting that Hasan wanted the soldiers whom he was "counseling" and treating, charged with "war crimes." (good grief -- the insanity of this just keeps going on...and on.. and on..)
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:36:03pm |
re: #245 albusteve
nobody outside of NYC even knows what a pizza is...Chicagoans are wannabees in that regard
OK, and the Cowboys aren't all that bad :)
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:37:25pm |
re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dr. Egon Spengler: I'm worried, Ray. All my readings point to something big on the horizon.
Winston Zeddemore: What do you mean, big?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Well, let's say this Twinkie represents the normal amount of psychokinetic energy in the New York area. Based on this morning's reading, it would be a Twinkie thirty-five feet long, weighing approximately six hundred pounds.
Winston Zeddemore: That's a big Twinkie.
Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
/Ghostbusters quotes never get old... ;-P
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:37:49pm |
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albusteve Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:39:38pm |
re: #249 Sharmuta
I'm glad I could get you to laugh a little, Bish. For you:
a perfect tune to log out with...you do have a knack, thank you very much...and I'll see you down the road
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lazardo Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:40:03pm |
re: #251 talon_262
Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon./Ghostbusters quotes never get old... ;-P
The Michelin Man doesn't want to talk about the time he dabbled in acting.
/also good morning.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:44:05pm |
re: #248 J.S.
OT
CNN is now reporting that Hasan wanted the soldiers whom he was "counseling" and treating, charged with "war crimes." (good grief -- the insanity of this just keeps going on...and on.. and on..)
otoh, someone today made the claim that they were killed in action by an enemy in a time of war & the families should receive those bennies...
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Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:44:28pm |
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Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:46:40pm |
re: #254 lazardo
The Michelin Man doesn't want to talk about the time he dabbled in acting.
/also good morning.
One of my favorite Ghostbusters quotes:
Dr Ray Stantz: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
Walter Peck: They caused an explosion!
Mayor: Is this true?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yes it's true.
[pause]
Dr. Peter Venkman: This man has no dick.
Walter Peck: Jeez!
[Charges at Venkman]
Mayor: Break it up! Hey, break this up! Break it up!
Walter Peck: All right, all right, all right!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Well, that's what I heard!
;-P
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The Sanity Inspector Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:50:10pm |
re: #248 J.S.
OT
CNN is now reporting that Hasan wanted the soldiers whom he was "counseling" and treating, charged with "war crimes." (good grief -- the insanity of this just keeps going on...and on.. and on..)
Not insanity. That's what's so chilling.
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freetoken Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:51:25pm |
Well, today was the big day, the arrival of the book...
Alaskans eager for Sarah Palin book release
Fans in Sarah Palin's home state turned out as early as possible Tuesday to snap up copies of her highly anticipated memoir. [...]
Cheezem said he's hoping some of that regional connection spills over to people buying the book from his store — at the full $28.99 price. By Tuesday morning, 32 copies of his 100-book shipment had been pre-ordered and by late morning another 21 copies had been sold over the counter.
Don't they realize that there are many wingnut-o-sphere sites that are shipping out the book for just a few dollars to anyone who signs up?
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:51:54pm |
re: #258 The Sanity Inspector
Not insanity. That's what's so chilling.
the denial is what is insane...
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:52:52pm |
re: #259 freetoken
Well, today was the big day, the arrival of the book...
Alaskans eager for Sarah Palin book release
Don't they realize that there are many wingnut-o-sphere sites that are shipping out the book for just a few dollars to anyone who signs up?
I'd rather they just buy the book full price and stay away from a lot of those sites altogether.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:54:21pm |
re: #259 freetoken
Well, today was the big day, the arrival of the book...
Alaskans eager for Sarah Palin book release
Don't they realize that there are many wingnut-o-sphere sites that are shipping out the book for just a few dollars to anyone who signs up?
maybe they want to support her?
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freetoken Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:55:17pm |
re: #262 brookly red
maybe they want to support her?
I'd bet that they'd rather support their local book store. Otherwise they'd buy it from Amazon and save a few bucks.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:55:19pm |
Top Obama donor and fundraiser Jodie Evans met with the Taliban in Afghanistan on a recent trip there, according to a report by Jane Fonda of a discussion she had with Evans last month. The meeting with the Taliban took place just weeks before Evans was videotaped directly handing to President Barack Obama a package of information about her trip to Afghanistan at a high dollar fundraiser in San Francisco.
The meeting with the Taliban was kept secret by Evans and her group Code Pink in reports she and the group posted from Kabul and in interviews with the media and bloggers about the trip. Fonda, a close friend of Evans, let the secret meeting slip in an account of her dinner with Evans at a fundraiser for the Armand Hammer Museum in Los Angeles:
Last Saturday, My dear friends Jodie Evans and Max Palevsky, invited Richard and me to join them at their table at a fundraiser at the Armand Hammer Museum in Westwood. It was a good evening for lots of reasons. I had never been to the museum and definitely want to go back. Clearly it is a courageous place, very cutting edge. Then, too, I saw lots of friends I hadn’t seen in a long time and I sat next to Jodie who told me a little about her recent trip to Afghanistan with an American delegation that included a retired colonel, and member the State Department (Army Reserves Col. (Ret.) and ex-diplomat Ann Wright). While there, she met with people ranging from the brother of President Karzai, Afghan members of Parliament, activists, to warlords and members of the Taliban (emphasis added.) Jodie is co-founder of the peace organization, Code Pink, and always willing to go to any lengths to try and find out what’s really going on. Bottom line: everyone she met with wants the U.S. Military out of their country. They feel our presence there has brought more violence rather than security. Please read a short article she wrote about the trip which is on the Women’s Media Center website.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:58:01pm |
re: #263 freetoken
I'd bet that they'd rather support their local book store. Otherwise they'd buy it from Amazon and save a few bucks.
I know you will have a hard time with this, but some people like her...
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:58:51pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
Fonda should have been charged with treason 40 some years ago. What a walking nightmare she is.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 7:59:36pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
Is that from World Net Daily or Free Republic?
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Racer X Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:01:22pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
Bottom line: everyone she met with wants the U.S. Military out of their country. They feel our presence there has brought more violence rather than security.
No shit shirlock!
We did not go in on a peacekeeping mission or some humanitarian aid quest. We went in to kick some Taliban ass! We went in looking for payback for the 3,000 dead Americans. We went in looking for those who conspired to harm us, who declared war on us and murdered our loved ones.
I bet they want us out.
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brookly red Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:01:54pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
I repeat, the denial is what is insane...
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freetoken Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:01:55pm |
One step closer to Star Trek (i.e., the universal translator):
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Seems awkward, but in time it might become something useful.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:03:45pm |
re: #268 Racer X
No shit shirlock!
We did not go in on a peacekeeping mission or some humanitarian aid quest. We went in to kick some Taliban ass! We went in looking for payback for the 3,000 dead Americans. We went in looking for those who conspired to harm us, who declared war on us and murdered our loved ones.
I bet they want us out.
Actually, It seems from the information Fonda spewed that Evans spoke with everyone but the PEOPLE of Afghanistan. War lords, politicians, activists and Taliban. Everyone but the folks who are horribly oppressed by everyone Evans spoke to. Nice Job, Ms. Evans!//
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:13:00pm |
re: #271 CapeCoddah
Actually, It seems from the information Fonda spewed that Evans spoke with everyone but the PEOPLE of Afghanistan. War lords, politicians, activists and Taliban. Everyone but the folks who are horribly oppressed by everyone Evans spoke to. Nice Job, Ms. Evans!//
I wonder what would have happened to her 66 years ago if she had met with the Nazis. I'm sure Harry Truman wouldn't have put his arm around her.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:13:38pm |
re: #272 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder what would have happened to her 66 years ago if she had met with the Nazis. I'm sure Harry Truman wouldn't have put his arm around her.
Rosenberg.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:18:42pm |
FYI, just added some links, per earlier requests, in the previous (Dufour and Tommy Gauthier) thread.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:19:03pm |
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:19:58pm |
re: #275 Alouette
They didn't meet with the nazis. They were fans of Uncle Joe.
I know that... I was referring to President Truman's method of dealing with treason.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:21:21pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
To Quote one of my all- time favorite bumper stickers proudly displayed in one of my all- time favorite beer joints: "Fuck Jane Fonda"
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:22:19pm |
Ex-SS trooper Adolf Storms charged over mass shooting of Jews
A 90-year-old former member of an elite Waffen SS unit has been charged with killing 58 Hungarian Jews who were forced to kneel beside an open pit before being shot and tumbling into their mass grave.
The man, named in the German press as Adolf Storms, becomes the latest pensioner to be prosecuted for alleged Nazi war crimes as courts rush to secure convictions before the defendants become too infirm and the witness testimony too unreliable.
Mr Storms was found by accident last year, as part of a research project by Andreas Forster, a 28-year-old student at the University of Vienna.
The case against him was led by Ulrich Maass who is also the prosecutor in the trial of Heinrich Boere, 88, who is accused of shooting three Dutch resistance fighters.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:22:26pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
The meeting with the Taliban took place just weeks before Evans was videotaped directly handing to President Barack Obama a package of information about her trip to Afghanistan at a high dollar fundraiser in San Francisco.
No one should directly hand things to the President especially if they just got back from hanging out with the Taliban. Kind of creepy there.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:25:34pm |
re: #279 Mich-again
No one should directly hand things to the President especially if they just got back from hanging out with the Taliban. Kind of creepy there.
I was thinking the same thing. What kind of fucking moron purposely seeks out the Taliban to speak with them? Why would a politician, especially the POTUS, greet them with open arms when they get back?
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:27:32pm |
re: #280 NJDhockeyfan
I was thinking the same thing. What kind of fucking moron purposely seeks out the Taliban to speak with them? Why would a politician, especially the POTUS, greet them with open arms when they get back?
Especially a western woman. Speaks directly to Ms. Evans IQ, IMO.
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The Sanity Inspector Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:29:09pm |
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The Sanity Inspector Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:30:10pm |
re: #278 NJDhockeyfan
Ex-SS trooper Adolf Storms charged over mass shooting of Jews
Put them in Rudolf Hess's old cell in Spandau prison.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:30:57pm |
No one would have ever heard of Jane Fonda if it wasn't for the privilege of family connections.
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CapeCoddah Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:31:34pm |
re: #283 The Sanity Inspector
Put them in Rudolf Hess's old cell in Spandau prison.
Demolished... late 80's, I believe. After Hess died.
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AmeriDan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:33:20pm |
re: #277 Capitalist Tool
To Quote one of my all- time favorite bumper stickers proudly displayed in one of my all- time favorite beer joints: "Fuck Jane Fonda"
The VFW I go to- though I did not serve during wartime- has a picture of her face on targets in all of the urinals.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:34:51pm |
re: #282 The Sanity Inspector
A tidbit from Janes bio that I never knew..
The China Syndrome became a huge hit when Three Mile Island had its little accident mere days after the movie opened.
If that sort of sequence of events were to occur nowadays that would make for a juicy conspiracy theory . I may just propose an ex-post facto CT right here.
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:36:31pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:37:40pm |
re: #285 ibmkeyboard
Screw you- the Capitol is the People's building.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:39:52pm |
re: #288 AmeriDan
The VFW I go to- though I did not serve during wartime- has a picture of her face on targets in all of the urinals.
It's well known that putting those little targets in urinals keeps the floors drier. They probably have to repaint her face quite often due to water erosion.
On the other hand, those old farts don't have the jets they once had.
oops- tellin' on myself
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:39:52pm |
re: #285 ibmkeyboard
So Democrats weren't worth saving? Vile. Life is life.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:40:12pm |
re: #289 Mich-again
A tidbit from Janes bio that I never knew..
The China Syndrome became a huge hit when Three Mile Island had its little accident mere days after the movie opened.
If that sort of sequence of events were to occur nowadays that would make for a juicy conspiracy theory . I may just propose an ex-post facto CT right here.
And days after 3 Mile Island we had the Pepsi Syndrome.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:40:48pm |
I just got finished watching the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure to see... "Repo! The Genetic Opera." Even the two teenage step-critters couldn't stand it, and this movie was certainly designed to target that age group.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:41:47pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
Hanoi Jane: Once a traitorous America-hating bitch, always a traitorous America-hating bitch. She should be arrested alongside the peace surrender advocates who met with Taliban and the whole lot of them tried for treason.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:41:48pm |
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:44:06pm |
re: #291 Sharmuta
Screw you- the Capitol is the People's building.
Bull Shit,
With 12 trillion dollar debt it now belongs to the Chinese!
we cant even pay the rent.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:44:19pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I just got finished watching the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure to see... "Repo! The Genetic Opera." Even the two teenage step-critters couldn't stand it, and this movie was certainly designed to target that age group.
You should have watched WWII in HD instead. It's on all week. I think it's one of the best documentaries I have ever seen. Although there are some graphic images it's very educational and filled with amazing color film.
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The Sanity Inspector Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:45:40pm |
Well, I'm out for a couple of weeks. Visiting a terminally ill mother-in-law overseas, before it's too late. I may look in here while I'm there, but otherwise have a good Thanksgiving, everyone.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:45:57pm |
re: #298 Dark_Falcon
Hanoi Jane: Once a traitorous America-hating bitch, always a traitorous America-hating bitch. She should be arrested alongside the
peacesurrender advocates who met with Taliban and the whole lot of them tried for treason.
That won't happen. They got face time with the president right after they got back. I think they are pretty safe. When are they leaving for Iran?
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:45:58pm |
re: #301 NJDhockeyfan
Absolutely. Makes you want to go find a WW2 vet and thank them all over again.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:46:18pm |
re: #298 Dark_Falcon
Hanoi Jane: Once a traitorous America-hating bitch, always a traitorous America-hating bitch. She should be arrested alongside the
peacesurrender advocates who met with Taliban and the whole lot of them tried for treason.
I always regarded her as just extra covered up with stupid, rather than having fully embraced a particularly treasonous stance. I mean, what she said and did (and does) might be real easy for even me to call treasonous, but I really think she's just plain old garden variety every- day too stupid to really know WTF she really does anything for... the hard to imagine how she gets through the day kind of stupid...
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:47:06pm |
Interesting.. I step in and there's some people talking about WWII vets, and another talking about the Chinese owning the Capital.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:48:08pm |
re: #302 The Sanity Inspector
I'm sorry to hear that. Have a safe trip.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:48:24pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I just got finished watching the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure to see... "Repo! The Genetic Opera." Even the two teenage step-critters couldn't stand it, and this movie was certainly designed to target that age group.
What would you expect of a movie that gave Paris Hilton a notable role?
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:48:49pm |
re: #302 The Sanity Inspector
I wish serenity to your family.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:49:37pm |
re: #302 The Sanity Inspector
Well, I'm out for a couple of weeks. Visiting a terminally ill mother-in-law overseas, before it's too late. I may look in here while I'm there, but otherwise have a good Thanksgiving, everyone.
Sorry to hear about your sick relative. I hope you brighten up her Thanksgiving.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:49:41pm |
Hmm- Charles it looks like that URL bug is still here.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:50:12pm |
re: #303 NJDhockeyfan
That won't happen. They got face time with the president right after they got back. I think they are pretty safe. When are they leaving for Iran?
As soon as they finish trading treason stories with Bill Ayers and John Kerry.
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:50:31pm |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
I just got finished watching the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure to see... "Repo! The Genetic Opera." Even the two teenage step-critters couldn't stand it, and this movie was certainly designed to target that age group.
Worse then Red Dawn or Twilight?
My current favorite movies that are so awful they are great because the unintentional hilarity.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:51:11pm |
re: #313 webevintage
Worse then Red Dawn or Twilight?
My current favorite movies that are so awful they are great because the unintentional hilarity.
Or Top Gun?
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:52:37pm |
re: #313 webevintage
Worse then Red Dawn or Twilight?
My current favorite movies that are so awful they are great because the unintentional hilarity.
I forgot to say that mostly it is because my teenager loves to watch crappy movies and give them the MST treatment...and he's pretty funny.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:54:17pm |
re: #302 The Sanity Inspector
Well, I'm out for a couple of weeks. Visiting a terminally ill mother-in-law overseas, before it's too late. I may look in here while I'm there, but otherwise have a good Thanksgiving, everyone.
Good luck on your journey, we'll see you when you get back.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:54:19pm |
re: #306 cliffster
Interesting.. I step in and there's some people talking about WWII vets, and another talking about the Chinese owning the Capital.
Speaking of Chinese owning the Capital... I had a dream last night, a terrible dream...
the Government had somehow invited the Chinese military over for a parade, and there they were, marching down one of those famous long boulevards in Washington D.C. and they stretched back as far as the eye could see and there were American men running from the street back to their homes and back again to the parade route, only now armed with rifles.
A man next to me asked what I thought and I told him that the worst war our nation had ever seen in was about to start and he said "That is true" and then, the shooting started and Chinese fell in piles, but they just kept coming.
I woke up at 4am because of it...
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:56:22pm |
re: #302 The Sanity Inspector
Hope things go well with you and yours.
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Cato the Elder Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:56:35pm |
Don't worry. Sarah Palin will fix everything with a witless wink.
You betcha!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:57:51pm |
re: #323 ibmkeyboard
I agree this suck, and Obama screwed up, but you're calling for riots in NYC and that's not cool.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:58:09pm |
re: #323 ibmkeyboard
I predict a 'deleted' will soon engulf that post.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 8:59:20pm |
Civil Disobedience by blocking the roads and throwing bricks...
Thats an odd form of civil disobedience.
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Bloodnok Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:00:24pm |
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ibmkeyboard Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:00:31pm |
re: #326 Mich-again
I predict a 'deleted' will soon engulf that post.
After serving several years in Vietnam
fighting for my right to survive and free speech
I don't give a big fuck.
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Mich-again Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:01:05pm |
re: #334 ibmkeyboard
It was OK except for the part about throwing bricks.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:01:29pm |
re: #329 Mich-again
Thats an odd form of civil disobedience.
Perhaps the cliff's notes were upside down?
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:01:43pm |
re: #264 NJDhockeyfan
OK, after looking at this further. Jodie Evans tells Jane Fonda that she met with the Taliban. CiC/POTUS, while also engaged in a war against the Taliban, hugs said Jodie Evans and gives her a hug. It's bad for morale and sends the wrong signal.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:01:59pm |
over the top for much of the country to be sure, but sounds just like every smart- ass kid from NYC I ever knew in the Army...
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McSpiff Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:02:01pm |
re: #334 ibmkeyboard
You're a guest here. A decent person would act like it. Or do you generally shit in friend's living rooms?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:02:08pm |
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:02:30pm |
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:03:38pm |
re: #337 Gus 802
OK, after looking at this further. Jodie Evans tells Jane Fonda that she met with the Taliban. CiC/POTUS, while also engaged in a war against the Taliban, hugs said Jodie Evans and gives her a hug. It's bad for morale and sends the wrong signal.
Ugh.
and yuck and really? what are these women thinking.
Go away ladies, you make the rest of us libs look bad.
and you piss me off.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:03:55pm |
re: #340 Dark_Falcon
I'll go get the grill ready...
I've got a new sauce I've been working on. Mind if I try it now?
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:03:56pm |
diggin thru my pile of things and stuff- EUREKA- here it is-
my Gamey Buttocks Mood Music cd
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:04:51pm |
re: #334 ibmkeyboard
After serving several years in Vietnam
fighting for my right to survive and free speech
pssst, you have no right to free speech on a message board, just what your host gives you...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:05:35pm |
re: #345 ibmkeyboard
Then get your flounce over with or log out.
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McSpiff Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:05:53pm |
re: #345 ibmkeyboard
Dont let the door hit ya on the way out.
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MandyManners Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:06:18pm |
re: #335 Mich-again
It was OK except for the part about throwing bricks.
I didn't like the bit about sodomy.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:08:00pm |
(Logged in)
Registered since: Oct 12, 2004 at 3:39 pm
No. of comments posted: 9,624
No. of links posted: 0
Lotta time, lotta comments. Burning bridges. Oh well.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:08:13pm |
I don't like the idea of un-uniformed enemy partisans captured on a battlefield being given a criminal trial like U. S. citizens, but throwing bricks at NYC cops isn't going to help things any.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:09:04pm |
re: #342 webevintage
Ugh.
and yuck and really? what are these women thinking.
Go away ladies, you make the rest of us libs look bad.
and you piss me off.
Yeah, it's rather strange. Nothing new with Code Pink of course since they're always meeting with enemies of America from time to time. Then Fonda goes ahead and blogs that Evans met with the Taliban. I'm sure it's a badge of honor within their own circle of friends.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:10:34pm |
re: #357 jaunte
No, it wouldn't. But I can understand the extreme frustration, and extreme frustration can make one fantasize about such a thing.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:11:31pm |
re: #359 cliffster
Wha? I'm as pissed as anyone and haven't thought about violence to stop it.
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:13:09pm |
"Robert Erickson" punked an anti-immigration tea party rally when he got to the podium and spoke out against immigrants, european immigrants that is. The crowd continued cheering his speech right up until the "Columbus go home" chant was started up, then they seemed a bit confused.
Pretty frigging childish if you ask me, but it does make me wonder what some of these people wouldn't cheer for.
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Summersong Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:13:16pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:14:32pm |
That does raise an interesting point, though. Are the authorities going to be able to provide adequate security to protect the defendants?
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:14:39pm |
re: #358 Gus 802
Yeah, it's rather strange. Nothing new with Code Pink of course since they're always meeting with enemies of America from time to time. Then Fonda goes ahead and blogs that Evans met with the Taliban. I'm sure it's a badge of honor within their own circle of friends.
Jane must be so proud. She set the example decades ago.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:14:59pm |
re: #362 Sharmuta
Wha? I'm as pissed as anyone and haven't thought about violence to stop it.
That's good. Not everyone has that calmness of temperament.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:16:33pm |
re: #365 Sharmuta
That does raise an interesting point, though. Are the authorities going to be able to provide adequate security to protect the defendants?
When this first came out on the news, I asked my MIL - "Ever read A Time To Kill?" The whole thing is a catastrophe waiting to jump out of a cake.
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AmeriDan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:16:34pm |
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:16:49pm |
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AmeriDan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:18:32pm |
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:18:34pm |
re: #369 AmeriDan
Most people do.
I'd sure like to believe that, but I get in a car and drive every day.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:18:43pm |
re: #365 Sharmuta
That does raise an interesting point, though. Are the authorities going to be able to provide adequate security to protect the defendants?
Not only the defendants, but their lawyers and their lawyers staffs
Also, if the public percieves the trial is going badly would the be any public backlash against the prosecutors
This entire thing is nothing but opening one can of worms after another
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:20:02pm |
Cool!
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:20:04pm |
re: #365 Sharmuta
That does raise an interesting point, though. Are the authorities going to be able to provide adequate security to protect the defendants?
Yes, yes they are.
We can do this.
This is America for heaven's sake, they have tried terrorists a number of times in federal court...and won.
aaarrrggghhh, this just frustrates me to no end. I have written so many posts about the NY trials and then not posted them because, dammit I like being here, and I'm a guest but I just do. not. get. this.
Why are some (not all) conservatives freaking out over this?
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials...well except for old, white Republicans.
What are we so afraid of?
Man up people.
(I'm sorry I really don't mean to piss you guys off, really.)
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:21:26pm |
re: #373 cliffster
I'd sure like to believe that, but I get in a car and drive every day.
No one who drives, and sees road-rage insanity, can believe that "most people" have a nonviolent temperament.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:22:33pm |
re: #376 webevintage
Why are some (not all) conservatives freaking out over this?
I think the legal rules of trial discovery raise security problems.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:22:51pm |
re: #376 webevintage
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials...well except for old, white Republicans.
!?!?!?!?!?!
You don't happen to have a link do you?
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AmeriDan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:23:50pm |
re: #373 cliffster
I'd sure like to believe that, but I get in a car and drive every day.
So do I and I've never been murdered, not even once. I check the headlines every morning for an "AmeriDan Survives the Night" headline but it's never there.
Only the bad stuff.
If your commute is that depressing, perhaps you could find another route?
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:24:43pm |
re: #376 webevintage
Yes, yes they are.
We can do this.
This is America for heaven's sake, they have tried terrorists a number of times in federal court...and won.
aaarrrggghhh, this just frustrates me to no end. I have written so many posts about the NY trials and then not posted them because, dammit I like being here, and I'm a guest but I just do. not. get. this.
Why are some (not all) conservatives freaking out over this?
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials...well except for old, white Republicans.
What are we so afraid of?
Man up people.(I'm sorry I really don't mean to piss you guys off, really.)
Governor Paterson is against the trials being held in New York.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:25:29pm |
re: #376 webevintage
re: #379 sattv4u2
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials...well except for old, white Republicans.
!?!?!?!?!?!
You don't happen to have a link do you?
New Yorkers are speaking out about the venue for the trial, but there is a split decision on the matter. 45% of residents think it’s a good idea to have the trial in New York City while 41% believe it’s a bad one.
41% of New Yorkers are Old White Republicans!@?!?!?
[Link: www.alternet.org...]
Your ass just got factchecked
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:26:10pm |
re: #377 cliffster
No one who drives, and sees road-rage insanity, can believe that "most people" have a nonviolent temperament.
I drive a lot, I don't see a lot of road rage. I see the occasional dude with an STI or an M3 tearing down 205 at breakneck speeds, because you know, 300+hp under the right foot. But not much rage.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:26:59pm |
re: #376 webevintage
I don't like it because not only is KSM going to make a mockery of the court, the CIA is going to be put on trial instead of the terrorists. Not to mention exposing intelligence used to capture terrorists will be exposed.
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:27:08pm |
re: #379 sattv4u2
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials...well except for old, white Republicans.
!?!?!?!?!?!
You don't happen to have a link do you?
[Link: maristpoll.marist.edu...]
PDF of Marist Poll
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AmeriDan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:27:26pm |
Cliff... gotta run we'll discuss this again one day, if you wish.
Bye
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:27:40pm |
re: #376 webevintage
Polls show New Yorkers have no problem with the trials
Un- no. And most Americans in general don't like it.
...well except for old, white Republicans.
Dingdown for the stereotype.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:28:01pm |
re: #365 Sharmuta
That does raise an interesting point, though. Are the authorities going to be able to provide adequate security to protect the defendants?
Sure. We've prosecuted Mafia, Russian spies, etc before with no problems. Somebody in jail might kill them but that's a risk that's probably very manageable.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:28:03pm |
re: #376 webevintage
I have written so many posts about the NY trials and then not posted them because, dammit I like being here, and I'm a guest but I just do. not. get. this.
Rumors of people getting banned for simply stating their opinion have been greatly exaggerated. I wouldn't sweat saying what you think.
Man up people.
Although, personally, I'd lose the attitude.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:28:30pm |
re: #385 webevintage
[Link: maristpoll.marist.edu...]
PDF of Marist Poll
Yes ,, I posted that. And it states 41% are AGAINST it
YOU stated that Old White Republiccans are the only ones against it
SO ,,, 41% of New Yorkers are old White Republicans!?!?!
FEH!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:28:38pm |
re: #380 AmeriDan
So do I and I've never been murdered, not even once. I check the headlines every morning for an "AmeriDan Survives the Night" headline but it's never there.
Only the bad stuff.
If your commute is that depressing, perhaps you could find another route?
Might also just be a function of traffic patterns, city planning, the region, the population... LA traffic is different than Dallas traffic is different than Portland traffic, etc.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:29:30pm |
re: #385 webevintage
But what you said is not what the poll said. It's split and not a "no problem" situation at all.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:29:33pm |
re: #386 AmeriDan
Cliff... gotta run we'll discuss this again one day, if you wish.
Bye
The basic violent nature of Mankind isn't something I am particularly passionate about, really. :^) But do have a good evening.
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:29:34pm |
Oh, it actually breaks down more to old, white, Republican men...
and I apologize if I made it sound like most, it is more like 45% support the trial with 41% not in favor and 14% not sure...
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:30:17pm |
re: #388 Killgore Trout
Sure. We've prosecuted Mafia, Russian spies, etc before with no problems. Somebody in jail might kill them but that's a risk that's probably very manageable.
Agreed on that point, but trying these bastards in federal court is still a grave mistake. Better a military court that can protect classifed information and keep the media at arms length. The MSM cannot be trusted to cover a trial like this; They'll use the trial to attack their own country.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:30:44pm |
"I can envision a couple of different combinations, if ever I were to be in a position to really even seriously consider running for anything in the future, and I'm not there yet," Palin tells Newsmax. "But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold – I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:31:00pm |
re: #394 webevintage
Here's a hint. There's nothing actually wrong with being old, white, male and Republican.
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:31:09pm |
re: #389 cliffster
Although, personally, I'd lose the attitude.
I apologize, it has been a long day and I let my frustration get the best of me.
Sorry guys.
don'tpushthepostbutton...don'tpushthepostbutton...don'tpushthepostbutton...
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wee fury Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:31:27pm |
re: #383 WindUpBird
I drive a lot, I don't see a lot of road rage. I see the occasional dude with an STI or an M3 tearing down 205 at breakneck speeds, because you know, 300+hp under the right foot. But not much rage.
For all drivers.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:32:03pm |
re: #395 Dark_Falcon
I agree but the Republicans wetting the bed and crying about how it might anger the terrorists is fucking pathetic.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:32:16pm |
re: #394 webevintage
Oh, it actually breaks down more to old, white, Republican men...
and I apologize if I made it sound like most, it is more like 45% support the trial with 41% not in favor and 14% not sure...
45%-41% ,,, almost within margin of error that it could be dead even
A FAR cry from your original post
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:32:21pm |
re: #398 webevintage
I apologize, it has been a long day and I let my frustration get the best of me.
Sorry guys.
don'tpushthepostbutton...don'tpushthepostbutton... don'tpushthepostbutton...
You seem wound up pretty tight. Loosen that belt, drink some chamomile tea. Grab a beer.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:32:45pm |
re: #397 Sharmuta
Here's a hint. There's nothing actually wrong with being old, white, male and Republican.
As an old white male republican, I thank you!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:32:49pm |
re: #400 Killgore Trout
I agree but the Republicans wetting the bed and crying about how it might anger the terrorists is fucking pathetic.
Where are they doing that?
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sngnsgt Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:12pm |
ROFL: Obama's teleprompter got stuck with caps lock on and he yelled himself hoarse!!!
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:18pm |
re: #395 Dark_Falcon
Agreed on that point, but trying these bastards in federal court is still a grave mistake. Better a military court that can protect classifed information and keep the media at arms length. The MSM cannot be trusted to cover a trial like this; They'll use the trial to attack their own country.
It's a bad idea for so many reasons you can't cover it in one topic.
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:20pm |
re: #401 sattv4u2
45%-41% ,,, almost within margin of error that it could be dead even
A FAR cry from your original post
Dude, I apologized. Sorry for the hyperbole, it was rude.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:22pm |
re: #395 Dark_Falcon
Agreed on that point, but trying these bastards in federal court is still a grave mistake.
Interesting related article:
How thinking of terrorists as pirates can help win the war on terror.
there are immediate benefits to pointing out that terrorism has a precedent in piracy. In the short term, it is a tool to cut the Gordian knot of definition that has hampered antiterrorist legislation for 40 years. In the long term, and far more important, it provides the parameters by which to understand this current and intense conflict and the means within which it may one day be resolved. That resolution will begin with the recognition among nations that terrorism is a threat to all states and to all persons, the same recognition given to piracy in 1856. Terrorists, like pirates, must be given their proper status in law: hostis humani generis, enemies of the human race.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:46pm |
re: #408 jaunte
A link would be good, too:
[Link: www.legalaffairs.org...]
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:33:54pm |
re: #407 webevintage
Dude, I apologized. Sorry for the hyperbole, it was rude.
I'm not a dude
i'm an old white male republican!
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webevintage Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:34:15pm |
re: #403 sattv4u2
As an old white male republican, I thank you!
seriously, I like old, white, Republican men...really, I do...
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:34:24pm |
I'm old, white and -grrr - still a Republican, but I don't live in New York.
I still think the terrorists should be dealt with militarily and summarily.
They hit the Pentagon- that changes everything.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:34:54pm |
KSM should have been pushin' up daisies a long time ago.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:35:28pm |
re: #411 webevintage
seriously, I like old, white, Republican men...really, I do...
Heres a freebie
When you're in a hole ,, stop digging!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:36:08pm |
re: #398 webevintage
You should be sorry. You distorted a poll and smeared republicans multiple times.
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:36:18pm |
re: #396 Killgore Trout
Palin-Beck 2012
"But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold – I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."
Who someone admires quite often can tell you a lot about them. I think I just learned more than I wanted to know.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:36:18pm |
re: #408 jaunte
The problem that makes adopting that thinking very hard is that many leftists think that people like you and me (i.e. moderate and conservative Americans) are the real enemies of the human race.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:36:25pm |
Hmmm, I'm sensing a strange smell in the air...
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:36:54pm |
re: #411 webevintage
seriously, I like old, white, Republican men...really, I do...
You don't really expect us to believe that after your smear job in here tonight, do you?
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:37:00pm |
That asshole at Ft. Hood should face a firing squad within a year.
Won't happen, of course, but that's what I think.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:37:34pm |
re: #404 Sharmuta
It's been a common talking point...
Rep. Shadegg Suggests Mayor Bloomberg's Daughter Will Be "Kidnapped" By A Terrorist
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:38:56pm |
re: #400 Killgore Trout
I agree but the Republicans wetting the bed and crying about how it might anger the terrorists is fucking pathetic.
I haven't seen that. The Dems, on the other hand, have been wetting the bed about Gitmo angering terrorists.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:39:06pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
Thanks, KT. You are my link to the kookosphere most of the time. I just can't justify the number of showers I would have to take in a day to wash the stench off me if I were to hit those sites myself.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:39:12pm |
re: #417 Dark_Falcon
Arrr, makes me want to up cutlass and slice their futtock shrouds.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:39:15pm |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:39:23pm |
re: #400 Killgore Trout
I agree but the Republicans wetting the bed and crying about how it might anger the terrorists is fucking pathetic.
Whats "fucking pathetic' is this blatant attempt to put torture, gitmo, Bush and Cheney on trial so this admin can show the 'world' how fair they are and how rotten the old admin was!
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:40:00pm |
re: #421 Killgore Trout
It's been a common talking point...
Rep. Shadegg Suggests Mayor Bloomberg's Daughter Will Be "Kidnapped" By A Terrorist
That's unhinged of course.
My main concern would be that intelligence information will be compromised because of the nature of civilian trials. Otherwise I'm sort of on the fence with this.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:40:17pm |
re: #424 Sharmuta
Even my (formerly beloved) Rudy made similar statements the other day.
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:40:18pm |
re: #422 webevintage
Good night all.
I sincerely apologize.
A good night to you. I, for one, don't really hold anything against you.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:40:51pm |
re: #427 sattv4u2
Whats "fucking pathetic' is this blatant attempt to put torture, gitmo, Bush and Cheney on trial so this admin can show the 'world' how fair they are and how rotten the old admin was!
Unfortunately, you just nailed it.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:40:53pm |
re: #427 sattv4u2
Whats "fucking pathetic' is this blatant attempt to put torture, gitmo, Bush and Cheney on trial so this admin can show the 'world' how fair they are and how rotten the old admin was!
Exactly. This is a political move to make George Bush look bad at the expense of our security.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:41:26pm |
re: #428 Gus 802
That's unhinged of course.
My main concern would be that intelligence information will be compromised because of the nature of civilian trials. Otherwise I'm sort of on the fence with this.
Wait until everything and everybody is in place and the defense team starts asking for change of venue because how can they get a fair panel seated
Let the circus begin!
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:42:02pm |
re: #429 Killgore Trout
Even my (formerly beloved) Rudy made similar statements the other day.
Really? That's disappointing.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:42:03pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:42:11pm |
re: #428 Gus 802
I agree with you on that. I do suspect that Obama thinks he can get this done and I hope it works. These guys have been in legal limbo for a very long time. If Obama can manage to wrap this up I'll be happy.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:43:46pm |
re: #434 Sharmuta
Yeah, Rudy also endorsed Hoffman and was praising the Tea Party nonsense over the past few days too. I'm not happy about that and things are starting to look a little different to me in hindsight.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:43:51pm |
re: #433 sattv4u2
Wait until everything and everybody is in place and the defense team starts asking for change of venue because how can they get a fair panel seated
Let the circus begin!
Yeah. A lot will also depend on the judge that is picked. If it's a weak judge then they will give "free rein" to the defense to bring in other aspects such as interrogations, treatment, "undue hardship," etc.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:44:36pm |
re: #433 sattv4u2
Wait until everything and everybody is in place and the defense team starts asking for change of venue
they will very likely do that. This criminal defense attorney is pretty critical of New York state discovery rules:
In criminal cases in New York, it is considered acceptable and legal to withhold from a defendant most of the most critical and relevant police reports, prior testimony, and other evidence until the very moment of trial (and sometimes literally in the middle of trial).[Link: www.queensdefense.com...]
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:44:44pm |
re: #430 cliffster
A good night to you. I, for one, don't really hold anything against you.
Who is holding anything against webvintage? I'm not going to let the liberal lizards do to republicans what some liberal lizards whined endlessly about when done the left.
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:46:18pm |
re: #438 Gus 802
Yeah. A lot will also depend on the judge that is picked. If it's a weak judge then they will give "free rein" to the defense to bring in other aspects such as interrogations, treatment, "undue hardship," etc.
I heard they were going to import Judge Ito from California because of his vast experience in "Show Trials."
///
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:47:03pm |
re: #441 ausador
I heard they were going to import Judge Ito from California because of his vast experience in "Show Trials."
///
I'd as soon see Judge Judy.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:47:18pm |
re: #441 ausador
I heard they were going to import Judge Ito from California because of his vast experience in "Show Trials."
///
Nooo! Not again.
"If the glove don't fit..."
/
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cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:47:34pm |
re: #440 Sharmuta
Who is holding anything against webvintage? I'm not going to let the liberal lizards do to republicans what some liberal lizards whined endlessly about when done the left.
Sharmuta, I agree with the things you said, I was just telling webvintage "no hard feelings". I apologize if it seemed like I was subtly pointing at you in my statement.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:48:10pm |
re: #442 Capitalist Tool
I'd as soon see Judge Judy.
Gotta go with Wapner. Definitely, definitely Wapner. 5 minutes to Wapner.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:48:30pm |
re: #445 Sharmuta
Gotta go with Wapner. Definitely, definitely Wapner. 5 minutes to Wapner.
KSM is toast
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:49:06pm |
And this post is dedicated to the ATF agent I met today. He came to replace the phone that was ruined after he was ambushed and shot during a drug bust. He still had one of the bullets in his leg and was arranging the operation to have it removed. And so this song is dedicated to one of the true heroes that I've had the honor of meeting. You've done great service for our nation and I do not forget it:
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:49:24pm |
re: #439 jaunte
This is Federal court though, not a New York state court. The discovery rules are different.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:50:49pm |
re: #449 ausador
Oh yeah, good point. Do you know what the difference is?
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:53:20pm |
Here's an argument for by Steven G. Calabresi.
Also see Leading conservative backs N.Y. trials
Calabresi served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush from 1985-1990.[1] During that time, he advised Attorney General Edwin Meese III, Reagan Domestic Policy Chief T. Kenneth Cribb and wrote speeches for Bush Vice President Dan Quayle.
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Capitalist Tool Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:53:43pm |
this individual unit of performing consciousness is falling asleep in his chair and bids you adieu-
do so love to get in here and play...
have so few opportunities
armageddon outta here
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:54:10pm |
re: #451 ausador
Here's a link:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:54:57pm |
re: #447 Dark_Falcon
Gave you an upding, but as you know, it was because I couldn't give him one. God bless those that keep me and my loved ones safe.
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ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:55:59pm |
re: #450 jaunte
Here try this PDF from the New York Bar Assoc. on Federal discovery rules.
[Link: www.nylitigator.com...]
At first glance it looks like the Federal rules are more severely limited than state court.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:56:49pm |
re: #454 jaunte
Here's a link:
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]
Found this:
(2) Information Not Subject to Disclosure.
Except as Rule 16(a)(1) provides otherwise, this rule does not authorize the discovery or inspection of reports, memoranda, or other internal government documents made by an attorney for the government or other government agent in connection with investigating or prosecuting the case. Nor does this rule authorize the discovery or inspection of statements made by prospective government witnesses except as provided in 18 U.S.C. § 3500.
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jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:59:05pm |
re: #457 Gus 802
I think this is the dangerous piece (for intelligence contacts):
(G) Expert Witnesses.At the defendant's request, the government must give to the defendant a written summary of any testimony that the government intends to use under Rules 702, 703, or 705 of the Federal Rules of Evidence during its case-in-chief at trial. If the government requests discovery under subdivision (b)(1)(C)(ii) and the defendant complies, the government must, at the defendant's request, give to the defendant a written summary of testimony that the government intends to use under Rules 702, 703, or 705 of the Federal Rules of Evidence as evidence at trial on the issue of the defendant's mental condition. The summary provided under this subparagraph must describe the witness's opinions, the bases and reasons for those opinions, and the witness's qualifications.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:01:17pm |
re: #458 jaunte
I think this is the dangerous piece (for intelligence contacts):
I think this is already starting to look like three dimensional chess.
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:01:31pm |
re: #458 jaunte
Gosh! You mean there are legitimate reasons to think this trial is a bad idea?
[eye roll]
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Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:01:53pm |
re: #459 Gus 802
I think this is already starting to look like three dimensional chess.
I hope someone in this mess has a 167 IQ then.
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:03:03pm |
re: #458 jaunte
I think this is the dangerous piece (for intelligence contacts):
Or this as well:
§ 3500. Demands for production of statements and reports of witnesses
(a) In any criminal prosecution brought by the United States, no statement or report in the possession of the United States which was made by a Government witness or prospective Government witness (other than the defendant) shall be the subject of subpena, discovery, or inspection until said witness has testified on direct examination in the trial of the case.
(b) After a witness called by the United States has testified on direct examination, the court shall, on motion of the defendant, order the United States to produce any statement (as hereinafter defined) of the witness in the possession of the United States which relates to the subject matter as to which the witness has testified. If the entire contents of any such statement relate to the subject matter of the testimony of the witness, the court shall order it to be delivered directly to the defendant for his examination and use.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:03:44pm |
re: #459 Gus 802
I think this is already starting to look like three dimensional chess.
Oh, great, and Spock is busy in the Spider Nebula. Shoot.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:04:54pm |
re: #461 Sharmuta
I hope someone in this mess has a 167 IQ then.
I do
Well ,,, if you eliminate the decimal point between the 6 and the 7 !
| 466 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:05:44pm |
re: #464 jaunte
That's the one, right there.
Yeah, and it goes further:
(d) If the United States elects not to comply with an order of the court under subsection (b) or (c) hereof to deliver to the defendant any such statement, or such portion thereof as the court may direct, the court shall strike from the record the testimony of the witness, and the trial shall proceed unless the court in its discretion shall determine that the interests of justice require that a mistrial be declared.
Sounds like the first task for the defense would be to get "witnesses" relevant to the case. Considering the intelligence implications it actually sounds easy for them to create a stalemate.
| 467 |
cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:06:17pm |
I pick John Prine to defend the terrorists. He will do so admirably.
| 468 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:06:23pm |
re: #458 jaunte
I think this is the dangerous piece (for intelligence contacts):
That seems to apply only to expert witnesses and whether they are testifying on opinion or on scientific fact, see here...
[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]
| 470 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:09:57pm |
re: #469 Athens Runaway
One flounce and terror trial discussions
| 471 |
jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:10:10pm |
| 472 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:10:51pm |
| 474 |
cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:11:45pm |
re: #469 Athens Runaway
So! What did I miss?
The Mayor's daughter will be kidnapped by aliens if they have these NYC trials. //
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Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:11:53pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:13:00pm |
re: #472 Gus 802
Spock's in the basement, mixing up the medicine.
/
Kirk's in bed, with a silver-skinned alien woman this time. :D
| 478 |
cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:13:46pm |
re: #477 Dark_Falcon
Kirk's in bed, with a silver-skinned alien woman this time. :D
mmm, silver sugar baby
| 479 |
Athens Runaway Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:14:49pm |
| 480 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:14:56pm |
re: #477 Dark_Falcon
Kirk's in bed, with a silver-skinned alien woman this time. :D
Yet oddly enough, she reminded me of a cowgirl I once met.
//
| 482 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:16:08pm |
re: #476 Stanley Sea
Who got flounced? Details details!
Flouncer's nic was "ibmkeyboard". He flounced after being rapped on the knuckles for calling for riots and brick throwing in NYC to prevent the terror-scum from being tried there.
| 483 |
Stanghazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:17:04pm |
re: #482 Dark_Falcon
Flouncer's nic was "ibmkeyboard". He flounced after being rapped on the knuckles for calling for riots and brick throwing in NYC to prevent the terror-scum from being tried there.
Ah, thanks. I read a couple of his posts before I had to bail. Sorry I missed the real-time action.
| 484 |
Athens Runaway Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:18:08pm |
re: #482 Dark_Falcon
Flouncer's nic was "ibmkeyboard". He flounced after being rapped on the knuckles for calling for riots and brick throwing in NYC to prevent the terror-scum from being tried there.
As if that'd stop it.
I think the trials will be OJ Simpson Part Trois, but with OJ's case, justice was eventually served.
| 485 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:19:22pm |
re: #483 Stanley Sea
Ah, thanks. I read a couple of his posts before I had to bail. Sorry I missed the real-time action.
You didn't miss much. It was just another stupid flounce by an ODS sufferer.
| 486 |
jaunte Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:19:25pm |
Goodnight all. Try to hang on to your bricks.
Image: krazzee2.gif
| 487 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:19:25pm |
re: #484 Athens Runaway
As if that'd stop it.
I think the trials will be OJ Simpson Part Trois, but with OJ's case, justice was eventually served.
Is he in the house finally?
| 488 |
cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:19:36pm |
Flowers on the hillside, bloomin' crazy,
Crickets talkin' back and forth in rhyme,
Blue river runnin' slow and lazy,
I could stay with you forever
And never realize the time.
Bob
| 489 |
Athens Runaway Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:20:34pm |
| 490 |
Athens Runaway Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:20:55pm |
re: #489 Athens Runaway
Whoops. Double quote-button.
| 492 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:21:56pm |
re: #489 Athens Runaway
Not for murder, but for robbery. He's been in jail for about a year now.
Yeah. I think he got 15 years? Would have been nice to see a video tape...
"OJ in his cell."
/
| 493 |
Neutral President Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:26:06pm |
re: #482 Dark_Falcon
Flouncer's nic was "ibmkeyboard". He flounced after being rapped on the knuckles for calling for riots and brick throwing in NYC to prevent the terror-scum from being tried there.
I think that poster pinged my douchebag sonar a couple of times before. It must still be working.
| 494 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:31:22pm |
re: #493 ArchangelMichael
I think that poster pinged my douchebag sonar a couple of times before. It must still be working.
Well this time he gave off a big enough sonar signature to allow the anti-troll torpedoes to lock on and sink his account.
| 495 |
cliffster Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:31:43pm |
I'm off to bed. Remember that we must Bow to nobody as we Take back our country and Restore the American dream.
| 496 |
Stanghazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:35:35pm |
re: #495 cliffster
I'm off to bed. Remember that we must Bow to nobody as we Take back our country and Restore the American dream.
I don't know if I should ding you.
| 497 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:36:31pm |
re: #492 Gus 802
Yeah. I think he got 15 years? Would have been nice to see a video tape...
"OJ in his cell."
/
Not exactly a real picture, but close...
[Link: www.freakingnews.com...]
///
| 498 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:38:49pm |
re: #497 ausador
Not exactly a real picture, but close...
[Link: www.freakingnews.com...]
///
Yeesh. OJ and that stupid face of his.
| 499 |
Dancing along the light of day Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:43:43pm |
re: #497 ausador
OK! That is pretty funny.
Orange is not either of their color!
| 500 |
Stanghazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:45:14pm |
So...not many west coasters here? It's only 1045!
| 501 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:47:30pm |
OK, lately I haven't been harping about these things but I'm looking through the BBC News site and saw this: EU-Russia to reset ties at summit .
Summit? Another summit? How many summits do we have occurring on a near daily basis? G20, G8, G10, APEC, etc.
| 502 |
Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:51:26pm |
re: #501 Gus 802
They're not summits. They're global short-term bursts of economic stimulation. Or something.
| 503 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:51:47pm |
World Summit on Food Security
Outsourcing World Summit
World Summit for Sustainable Development
Green Fleet World 2009 International Summit
10th World Summit of Nobel Peace Laureates
...
| 504 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:53:26pm |
re: #503 Gus 802
World Summit on Food Security
Outsourcing World Summit
World Summit for Sustainable Development
Green Fleet World 2009 International Summit
10th World Summit of Nobel Peace Laureates
...
What about the World Summit on World Summits?
| 505 |
Sharmuta Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:54:41pm |
re: #503 Gus 802
World Summit on Food Security
Stimulus
Outsourcing World Summit
Stimulus
World Summit for Sustainable Development
Stimulus
Green Fleet World 2009 International Summit
Stimulus
10th World Summit of Nobel Peace Laureates
Stimulus
...
Three dots.
| 506 |
Stanghazi Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:54:45pm |
Is this what my local pol's get paid trips to? Always going somewhere, with family.
| 507 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:54:57pm |
re: #502 Sharmuta
They're not summits. They're global short-term bursts of economic stimulation. Or something.
Or something. Sounds about right. Reminds me of when I once hooked up with someone I knew trying to create a "non profit." Sounded like a scam from the onset and she drove me nuts that I finally "quit."
I think world summits are the global version of city council meetings. Ironically city councils are more productive.
| 508 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 10:56:47pm |
| 509 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:01:26pm |
Soon to be followed by the World Summit on Handshake, Bow, Cheek Kissing, and Shoulder Rubbing Protocols.
re: #508 Gus 802
Stimulus! Don't remind me. 10 million dollars in Denver for 6.65 jobs. What a joke. With 10 million dollars I could have at least created 10 millionaires.
/
Hey it only cost $780,000 to create 29 jobs in Nevada district 15.
(too bad Nevada doesn't actually have a district 15)
| 510 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:01:37pm |
Project Type: AdvanceNotice
Project Owner: North Carolina Department of Transportation
Location: North Carolina, United States, Davidson (NC), Rowan (NC)
Estimated Value: $280,000,000 to $330,000,000
The 6.8 mile proposed project is located along a section of Interstate 85 between Salisbury and Greensboro.
330 million dollars for 7 miles of road.
| 511 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:02:57pm |
re: #509 ausador
Soon to be followed by the World Summit on Handshake, Bow, Cheek Kissing, and Shoulder Rubbing Protocols.
Hey it only cost $780,000 to create 29 jobs in Nevada district 15.
(too bad Nevada doesn't actually have a district 15)
Yeah, but at least they let people know. It show that they are truly being transparent.
//
They're transparent all right.
| 512 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:07:09pm |
re: #506 Stanley Sea
Is this what my local pol's get paid trips to? Always going somewhere, with family.
Any time you see the word "Trade" as in trade summit or trade talks what it really means is "We are going to party our asses off on your dime."
| 513 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:12:32pm |
re: #512 ausador
Any time you see the word "Trade" as in trade summit or trade talks what it really means is "We are going to party our asses off on your dime."
It's like the public sector version of the convention circuit. Only it's on the public dime and accomplishes little. People on both sides of the political spectrum even acknowledge that. The only ones that defend it are the professional politicians. Even if we look at the World Bank where it's nothing but defaults and delays. The result isn't even loans. They're grants to nowhere.
| 514 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:13:43pm |
re: #510 Gus 802
Well asphalt is made with oil, and oil is really expensive...
/
Coming back to Florida from Alaska was a real eye opener, up there they can only work about 5 months out of the year, yet they get three times as much done. I talked with someone in the business here and he admitted it was corrupt as all hell, kickbacks, overinflated rigged bids, the whole works. He said a few honest people had tried to break into the business over the years but that the existing contractors would band up to underbid them. Once the new guy was run out of business they would all go back to business as usual.
| 515 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:20:22pm |
re: #514 ausador
Well asphalt is made with oil, and oil is really expensive...
/
Coming back to Florida from Alaska was a real eye opener, up there they can only work about 5 months out of the year, yet they get three times as much done. I talked with someone in the business here and he admitted it was corrupt as all hell, kickbacks, overinflated rigged bids, the whole works. He said a few honest people had tried to break into the business over the years but that the existing contractors would band up to underbid them. Once the new guy was run out of business they would all go back to business as usual.
It's a joke and no one cares. Look at the 300 million for 7 miles of road. Money means nothing to them apparently. There's even one for 110 million to reclad a building facade. Must be a large building.
Or in Dallas/Fort Worth:
An additional $500 million in funding is available to the state's metropolitan planning organizations for use at their discretion.
| 517 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:32:54pm |
New York - Weatherization $404.0M
New Jersey - Weatherization $121.9M
| 518 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:34:50pm |
Texas - Weatherization $345.9M
We're already over 1 billion and that's just 4 states.
| 519 |
ghazidor Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:38:08pm |
Socialist weather stripping for all!
/
Hmm, I wonder if that includes energy efficiency upgrades like thermopane windows and the like. Might explain the hugh pricetags better...
| 520 |
Diane Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:40:54pm |
I know that I would also trip on my words using a teleprompter talking to my kid.
| 521 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:44:38pm |
re: #519 ausador
Socialist weather stripping for all!
/
Hmm, I wonder if that includes energy efficiency upgrades like thermopane windows and the like. Might explain the hugh pricetags better...
I didn't check but I doubt it. Most of the money will go to "management" and on an aside grafting because that's how it's done. The majority of the projects are on federal buildings anyway. The balance of the so called stimulus is going to roads and bridges. The firms that do get the contracts milk it for what it's worth. Again, because that's how it's done. If they need to dig a hole you need four people. One man to dig the hole and 3 to watch.
| 522 |
Gus Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:51:01pm |
VP briefed on flawed jobs stats
Vice President Joe Biden has asked officials tasked with overseeing the stimulus-tracking website Recovery.gov to correct statistics suggesting Recovery Act funds had been sent to nonexistent congressional districts, according to a spokesman.
Biden, whom President Obama asked to perform an oversight role as "sheriff" of the stimulus program, was briefed Tuesday on reports of flawed job-creation numbers.
"He thinks it is a relatively small problem involving a small number of jobs that exist, but which were entered into Recovery.gov with the wrong coding and therefore the wrong address," Biden spokesman Jay Carney said in an email. "He expects the problem will be fixed quickly."
...
Yeah, fixed quickly. There's nothing wrong with the stats. It's all flawed just like the stimulus program was flawed. Leave it alone. It reflects relaity.
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