Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) really lets his kook flag fly in this clip, accusing the Federal Reserve of helping Saddam Hussein buy weapons, helping fund the Watergate burglary, and planning a secret bailout of … Greece.
Fed Chief Ben Bernanke’s reply (as people laugh in the background): “These specific allegations you’ve made, I think are absolutely bizarre.”
(Hat tip: KT.)
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:27:15am |
Empowering teh crazy! It's mah job.... - rp
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:28:43am |
The Only Man Who Can Save America... By turning it into a certifiable shambles. 'Splain that one to me.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:29:09am |
Repost from last thread.
From the comments there:
conservativeoriginalist:No, because Lincoln essentially set in motion the custom of ignoring the 9th and 10th Amendments, and usurped the power of the state governments into the federal government.
Looks like the Lincoln-hate is now a plank.
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:29:22am |
re: #2 thedopefishlives
The Only Man Who Can Save America... By turning it into a certifiable shambles. 'Splain that one to me.
Got to tear it down before you can build it back up.
/
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Bubblehead II Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:29:25am |
Can I have some of whatever it is he's smoking?
Will it show up in an urine test?
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:31:42am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:32:26am |
Barney Frank is hilarious at the end of the clip. Frank proposes opening an investigation into the Nixon and Reagan administrations. People are openly laughing. I'm not a big Barney Frank fan but I'll give him points on this one for thinking quick and being funny.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:33:52am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:34:09am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Barney Frank is hilarious at the end of the clip. Frank proposes opening an investigation into the Nixon and Reagan administrations. People are openly laughing. I'm not a big Barney Frank fan but I'll give him points on this one for thinking quick and being funny.
Yep, the left has to love Ron Paul ...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:35:56am |
"You could have bailed out Greece?"
"Yes, but we haven't."
"But you could?"
"Yes, but we haven't"
"But you could?"
Repeat until yer head goes splody.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:36:34am |
re: #10 Thanos
Yep, the left has to love Ron Paul ...
I'm sure they're thrilled at the possibility of bipartisan witch hunts accusing Republican administration of all sorts of conspiracies.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:36:45am |
re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar
"Sir, could the Fed, if it wanted, invest in puppy-kicking futures?"
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:37:21am |
re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar
It also funny watching Ron Paul continue with the conspiracy after being told that the records are available.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:37:29am |
re: #12 Killgore Trout
I'm sure they're thrilled at the possibility of bipartisan witch hunts accusing Republican administration of all sorts of conspiracies.
He's really begging to re open Iran Contra...
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:37:42am |
I'm curious, aside from all his unprovable ranting there, I did hear something in the beginning that interests me, and it's something I knew only a little about.
He said the House has passed their version of the Federal Reserve Transparency Act.
So, he's crazy but the left leaning House votes on a bill that addresses his crazy.
What am I missing?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:37:51am |
re: #13 Obdicut
"Sir, could the Fed, if it wanted, invest in puppy-kicking futures?"
"Yes, Congressman Paul. We're all cat people."
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:38:09am |
re: #15 Thanos
He's really begging to re open Iran Contra...
Heh, that's not beyond the realm of possibility.
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pharmmajor Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:39:56am |
It's a shame that Paul is so utterly insane, because he does have some good ideas. And I hate that so many people think that all libertarians are as nutty as RP is.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:40:48am |
Cocaine and hookers! The Fed pays for billions and billions of dollars worth of cocaine and hookers, and we, the American taxpayers have a right to get in on the action!
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:41:20am |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
Heh, that's not beyond the realm of possibility.
The money for the seed used for the grassy knoll was paid for by the Fed!
///
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:37am |
re: #21 pharmmajor
It's a shame that Paul is so utterly insane, because he does have some good ideas. And I hate that so many people think that all libertarians are as nutty as RP is.
One must be careful who is allowed to be the standard bearer.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:50am |
re: #21 pharmmajor
It's a shame that Paul is so utterly insane, because he does have some good ideas. And I hate that so many people think that all libertarians are as nutty as RP is.
What good ideas?
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:42:57am |
re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar
"You could have bailed out Greece?"
"Yes, but we haven't."
"But you could?"
"Yes, but we haven't"
"But you could?"
Repeat until yer head goes splody.
The long term effects of trying to make Ron Paul make sense:
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:43:34am |
re: #21 pharmmajor
It's a shame that Paul is so utterly insane, because he does have some good ideas. And I hate that so many people think that all libertarians are as nutty as RP is.
Name one.
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Qabal Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:43:47am |
It wasn't the Fed that was involved in the Greece shenanigans. It was, who else... Goldman Sachs.
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:43:57am |
re: #24 CyanSnowHawk
One must be careful who is allowed to be the standard bearer.
To anyone who is wondering why it's such a big deal that "a few bad nuts" show up at the "otherwise well-intentioned" tea party events, this is the reason.
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:44:03am |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Barney Frank is hilarious at the end of the clip. Frank proposes opening an investigation into the Nixon and Reagan administrations. People are openly laughing. I'm not a big Barney Frank fan but I'll give him points on this one for thinking quick and being funny.
I am a Frank fan specifically because he is willing to mock teh!crazy when it rears it's tinfoil covered head.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:15am |
re: #25 Walter L. Newton
What good ideas?
Getting up in the morning.
Having lunch.
That sort of thing.
I'd have to say that looking like the robot scientist in the Pentagon segment of the movie Heavy Metal wasn't his best idea though.
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Qabal Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:45:45am |
re: #31 webevintage
I am a Frank fan specifically because he is willing to mock teh!crazy when it rears it's tinfoil covered head.
He was the only one that called out the town hall crazies to their face last summer. Not sure it was the best form for a congressman, but it was some nice vicarious living for a lot of us.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:46:24am |
"By this point I couldn't even pretend to care, since the betrayed part of me just wanted to punch him in his kindly old racist-pandering face."
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ShaunP Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:48:40am |
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reine.de.tout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:13am |
re: #3 Obdicut
Repost from last thread.
From the comments there:
Looks like the Lincoln-hate is now a plank.
Good grief!
rewriting history.
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:32am |
re: #35 ShaunP
Please say 'the military'! It'd be worth a smile :D
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:49:49am |
I like Ron Paul. He's like my next-door neighbor, only in Congress.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:51:24am |
re: #37 reine.de.tout
Ron Paul includes cult of personality, financial boondoggles, and rewriting of history in ways that resemble, to me, stuff in the Soviet Union.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:52:06am |
re: #40 Obdicut
Ron Paul includes cult of personality, financial boondoggles, and rewriting of history in ways that resemble, to me, stuff in the Soviet Union.
I think he could script the next Oliver Stone movie with consumate ease...
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:52:25am |
re: #35 ShaunP
Cut government spending down to 2000 levels
Lots of politicians say they'll cut spending, its always the details behind that which fuck them up in the end.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:52:46am |
re: #38 windsagio
Please say 'the military'! It'd be worth a smile :D
IIRC, military spending didn't go up until "W" became President.
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:53:14am |
re: #39 cliffster
I like Ron Paul. He's like my next-door neighbor, only in Congress.
Does your next door neighbor dig around in the back yard late at night?
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pharmmajor Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:53:21am |
re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Name one.
Free trade without protectionism, withdrawing troops stationed in countries where we aren't actively engaged, eliminating wasteful federal agencies like the DOE and the DOC, eliminating the PATRIOT Act, putting an end to eminent domain, ect.
All standard libertarian positions. But just because Paul is the most vocal advocate in the US media, that does not mean we all follow him in lockstep. As I've mentioned already, I think he's a grade-A whackjob.
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lawhawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:54:53am |
When will those on the right learn to rue Paul? This guy has a conspiracy for every situation, no matter how bizarre. I expect it only a matter of time before he opens with a full blown troofer rant.
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:56:39am |
re: #45 pharmmajor
Free trade without protectionism, withdrawing troops stationed in countries where we aren't actively engaged, eliminating wasteful federal agencies like the DOE and the DOC, eliminating the PATRIOT Act, putting an end to eminent domain, ect.
All standard libertarian positions. But just because Paul is the most vocal advocate in the US media, that does not mean we all follow him in lockstep. As I've mentioned already, I think he's a grade-A whackjob.
Like you said, standard Libertarian positions, not Ron Paul's ideas. The man himself is a walking disaster.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:56:49am |
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:56:54am |
re: #44 Conservative Moonbat
Does he publish an incredibly racist newsletter asserting that MLK was a gay pedophile? And then claim he really isn't all that connected to the newsletter that has his name on it?
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:57:08am |
re: #46 lawhawk
When will those on the right learn to rue Paul? This guy has a conspiracy for every situation, no matter how bizarre. I expect it only a matter of time before he opens with a full blown troofer rant.
He goes on and on about how if we don't cut back spending in a huge way, the ship's going down. People hear that and say, hey this guy's alright.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:57:10am |
re: #46 lawhawk
When will those on the right learn to rue Paul? This guy has a conspiracy for every situation, no matter how bizarre. I expect it only a matter of time before he opens with a full blown troofer rant.
Ru-Paul?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:57:49am |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:58:06am |
re: #45 pharmmajor
I think he's a grade-A whackjob.
He is. Sorry but his ideas are crazy too, it's a problem that people take his ideas seriously. That includes things like abolishing the Dept. of Energy, rampant isolationism, fair tax, gold standandard, etc. The sooner Republicans get rid of Ron Paul and his ideas, the better.
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:58:15am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:58:35am |
re: #45 pharmmajor
Sorry to disillusion you but if you look at his actual votes and statements on AFTA, NAFTA, Border protection, etc. you will find a protectionist / isolationist / nativist streak.
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pharmmajor Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:58:36am |
re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Like you said, standard Libertarian positions, not Ron Paul's ideas. The man himself is a walking disaster.
You have a point, there. Guess I should've phrased what I said better.
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pharmmajor Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:59:26am |
re: #55 Thanos
Sorry to disillusion you but if you look at his actual votes and statements on AFTA, NAFTA, Border protection, etc. you will find a protectionist / isolationist / nativist streak.
I didn't say I agreed with all of his positions. He voices some good ideas, but he also voices some batsh!t crazy ones as well.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:59:53am |
re: #48 Mad Al-Jaffee
I would much rather vote for Ru Paul than Ron Paul.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:00:27pm |
re: #44 Conservative Moonbat
Does your next door neighbor dig around in the back yard late at night?
No, but you literally have to cut him off when he's in your yard talking about stuff. Never stops. Come to think of it, maybe he does dig around in the back yard.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:00:31pm |
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ShaunP Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:00:57pm |
re: #36 windsagio
what would you cut specifically? >>
I started listing items and then started pulling them all back off, as it would be political suicide to cut government jobs in the current economy. Can I retract my previous post? LOL...
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:02:01pm |
I guess it is now expected that beauty queens make sure they express the proper amount of hate of Teh!Gay:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Looks like someone is feeling a need to make money off the SoCon folks in this country until videos of her doing something naughty show up.
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darthstar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:02:02pm |
Eight more Republicans realized they wouldn't burst into flames if they voted for the jobs bill:
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
James Inhofe (R-OK)
George LeMieux (R-FL)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Maybe the Democrats aren't Satan's minions after all?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:02:07pm |
re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar
He makes much clearer points, too. And he doesn't want a constitutional amendment banning abortion, either.
I think it was when 'libertarians' started liking Ron Paul that I realized libertarians in the US aren't really all that libertarian, in general, and stopped calling myself a libertarian.
Paul has tainted the fuck out of that word.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:02:08pm |
re: #61 ShaunP
I started listing items and then started pulling them all back off, as it would be political suicide to cut government jobs in the current economy. Can I retract my previous post? LOL...
Can we just cut 535 gubment jobs?
/
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windsagio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:02:10pm |
re: #61 ShaunP
hehe totally.
To exploit you some, thats the point tho.
Everyone would love the budget reduced, but there's simply no way to pick any programs that should really be cut... And if you do pick some (like some people are against SS and Medicare, but not many), its politically impossible to try :P
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:04:56pm |
re: #63 darthstar
Eight more Republicans realized they wouldn't burst into flames if they voted for the jobs bill:
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
James Inhofe (R-OK)
George LeMieux (R-FL)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Richard Burr (R-NC)Maybe the Democrats aren't Satan's minions after all?
RHINOS!
Only Satan's minions would vote for small business tax cuts.
I'm confused why you would vote against closure, but then turn around and vote for the bill itself.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:05:33pm |
re: #67 webevintage
I'm confused why you would vote against closure, but then turn around and vote for the bill itself.
In order to be obstructionist.
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darthstar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:06:51pm |
re: #67 webevintage
RHINOS!
Only Satan's minions would vote for small business tax cuts.I'm confused why you would vote against closure, but then turn around and vote for the bill itself.
Three letters: C.Y.A. Voting against cloture gets them through the primaries. Voting for jobs gets them through the general. They can talk out both sides of their ass this way.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:07:56pm |
re: #69 darthstar
Three letters: C.Y.A. Voting against cloture gets them through the primaries. Voting for jobs gets them through the general. They can talk out both sides of their ass this way.
Who?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:08:09pm |
re: #68 Obdicut
In order to be obstructionist.
Could it be to reach an agreement on language? I'm not sure.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:09:28pm |
The only grain of truth in all of RP's ramblings was that the Fed was too cozy with politicans, I got the serious impression in 2007 that Skanky Bernanke really buckled under to political pressure, the effect of which was merely to stave off the inevitable collapse until 2008.
And I think that we should defininitely launch an investigation on whether herbert Hoover operated a secret slush fund fo finance Guatemalan guava garglers.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:10:18pm |
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McSpiff Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:10:29pm |
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:11:49pm |
re: #74 McSpiff
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
"New Missile Defense Agency Logo Causes Online Commotion... " isn't a very loaded headline.
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:12:11pm |
O.T. Now, logogate II Some they think the DOD likes the Obama logo, the stalker blog thinks it's a secret Muslim crescent.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:12:28pm |
re: #74 McSpiff
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
The only thing it proves to me is someone in the administration is a terrible logo designer.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:13:07pm |
re: #75 RogueOne
"New Missile Defense Agency Logo Causes Online Commotion... " isn't a very loaded headline.
Exactly.
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McSpiff Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:13:33pm |
re: #75 RogueOne
"New Missile Defense Agency Logo Causes Online Commotion... " isn't a very loaded headline.
Uhh, you do see that they are comparing it to the Obama campaign logo and the Islamic resent moon and star right?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:14:08pm |
re: #77 Walter L. Newton
The only thing it proves to me is someone in the administration is a terrible logo designer.
Pepsi switched its logo and it now looks like the Obama logo. Does that mean he's really a Pepsi drinker?
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:14:14pm |
re: #73 Mad Al-Jaffee
Why does that sound dirty to me?
Because they were used to contaimate chicken salad sanwiches in downtown Duluth...
(this is all inspired by the ramblins of Zippy the Pinhead, who is obviously one of Ron Paul's great sources of inspiration)
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:14:15pm |
re: #74 McSpiff
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
I haven't looked yet, but smart money sez that the shrieking harpy and associates are driving...
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:15:55pm |
re: #85 Thanos
I haven't looked yet, but smart money sez that the shrieking harpy and associates are driving...
Sometimes, they really out Onion, Onion.
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wiffersnapper Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:18:30pm |
What's the logo on the flag? A tin foil hat?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:19:01pm |
re: #74 McSpiff
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
Not only is it a stupid story it's a stolen stupid story. Dan Rheil was running that this morning. Drudge lifted the story and isn't even going to credit the idiot who invented it.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:20:10pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:20:12pm |
re: #74 McSpiff
Uh Oh everyone, Drudge is reporting that the new missile defense logo reveals that Obama's a sekkrit muslim! Whats happened over at drudge?
This one is so dumb that every time I start reading about it my eyes glaze over and I get sleepy.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:20:12pm |
re: #86 avanti
Sometimes, they really out Onion, Onion.
Right now it appears to be Frank Gaffney over at Big Gov't
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:20:45pm |
re: #87 wiffersnapper
What's the logo on the flag? A tin foil hat?
That would be on the Daily Kos flag.
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dugmartsch Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:21:01pm |
re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar
"You could have bailed out Greece?"
"Yes, but we haven't."
"But you could?"
"Yes, but we haven't"
"But you could?"
Repeat until yer head goes splody.
I guess but his point is valid.
The fed reserve does have some enormous power that's very poorly understood by just about everybody. It is a black box that has little transparency and zero accountability to the american public. It's terrible management in the 2000's brought the world economy to the brink of complete collapse. Monetary policy in the 2000's was totally fucked. The fed charmain was championing interest only ARMs in congressional hearings. Interest rates we're driven by Greenspan's desire to keep Bush in power and to preserve his "legacy".
I'm just not comfortable with institutions with such massive amounts of power being completely inoculated against accountability.
Paul is totally wrong about the gold standard and moderate inflation, sympathizes with anti-semites and is prone to cooky conspiracy theories, but he's in the ballpark on the fed, they're out of control and have sick amounts of power. That's bad.
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:22:35pm |
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:22:54pm |
re: #90 Charles
This one is so dumb that every time I start reading about it my eyes glaze over and I get sleepy.
So far tracking it back to "Logan's Warning" ...
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McSpiff Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:23:20pm |
re: #90 Charles
This one is so dumb that every time I start reading about it my eyes glaze over and I get sleepy.
Well I realize my comments might be a waste of electrons but that seems awfully harsh...
///
Seriously though, I don't understand the thought process here. That Obama ordered the Islamic reference included? The military's logo guy thought it was a good idea? They're old terrorist training camp pals?
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:23:48pm |
re: #89 Obdicut
Ah, crap.
It's called a Killer Whale for a reason.
[Link: www.clickorlando.com...]
Still, that's pretty weird. Thousands of shows every year, no incidents. I wonder what happened.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:23:49pm |
re: #93 dugmartsch
It is not a black box. Did you watch the video? How are they a black box?
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:23:56pm |
Appears to be a very Christian "clash of civilizations" kinda blog..
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:25:23pm |
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:25:38pm |
Yeah here's part of the guy's profile:
I am a content manager and writer for Right Side News, and previously for Infidels are Cool. I also have had several articles published on Ali Sina's popular Faith Freedom site. Most recently I have been asked to be a co-host and co-producer for the Evil Conservative Radio Show, based out of NY and did an interview for the Colonel Ray Show out of Texas.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:27:27pm |
re: #100 Obdicut
And did this already get posted?
Arizona To Obama: Show Us Your Birth Certificate!
Un-fucking-real.
I wonder if Joseph Farah lives there. If not, he will soon.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:28:53pm |
I screwed up and posted this in the wrong thread so I'm going to repost it here if that's alright.
OK. If Obama doesn't step in and shut this guy up I'm going to quickly develop a severe case of ODS.
[Link: [Link: www.usnews.com...]...]
LaHood Seeks Federal Texting While Driving Ban
His goal is to have no distractions whatsoever in cars, even if it means developing a device to shut down phones and BlackBerrys when the engine is started. LaHood also wants police to enforce laws barring hand-held cellphone use and is seeking a federal texting-while-driving ban. "We just have to prevent people from using them, and once we do, we save a lot lives," he says.
I'm sure everyone realizes that in order for there to be a "federal" ban they'll have to pull the same crap they pulled in order to enforce the seat belt and the .08 laws meaning blackmailing the states with their own damn tax dollars. This is the kind of federal overreach that just sets me off.
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:29:49pm |
re: #100 Obdicut
And did this already get posted?
Arizona To Obama: Show Us Your Birth Certificate!
Un-fucking-real.
Interesting sarcasm thread there:
"I shall not believe that Barack Saddam Hussein al-Qaeda Osama bin Laden is a natural-born citizen, unless you libbies provide me with a time machine to transport myself and my wingnut comrades to August 4, 1961 so that we can witness his birth in Hawaii with our own eyes."
and
"Even if we could do that, I bet the wingnuts would say that the flight crew that brought them to Hawaii actually flew them to some other chain of islands in the Pacific and that they pre-emptively decorated those islands Hawaiian-style and transported a few authentic Hawaiians there to create the atmosphere."
and
"NO ONE YET GRASPS THE DIRE DEPTHS OF THE LIBERAL CONSPIRACY -- THEY REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT YOU SHOW THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND REPLACED IT WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU BE A "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:31:14pm |
re: #103 RogueOne
At my last job, I traveled the interstate a bunch. To see people on lap tops was not uncommon. But I agree. Being on a phone is different. Especially since a lot are hands free.
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SixDegrees Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:32:39pm |
re: #93 dugmartsch
I guess but his point is valid.
The fed reserve does have some enormous power that's very poorly understood by just about everybody. It is a black box that has little transparency and zero accountability to the american public. It's terrible management in the 2000's brought the world economy to the brink of complete collapse. Monetary policy in the 2000's was totally fucked. The fed charmain was championing interest only ARMs in congressional hearings. Interest rates we're driven by Greenspan's desire to keep Bush in power and to preserve his "legacy".
I'm just not comfortable with institutions with such massive amounts of power being completely inoculated against accountability.
Paul is totally wrong about the gold standard and moderate inflation, sympathizes with anti-semites and is prone to cooky conspiracy theories, but he's in the ballpark on the fed, they're out of control and have sick amounts of power. That's bad.
Uh - they're audited by an independent auditing firm every single year, and are required to turn the reports over to Congress. They are required to provide detailed reports on their activities to several Congressional committees in both the House and the Senate every quarter and every year, and at other times Congress deems necessary. In fact, Bernanke was testifying at one of these required briefings as recently as today.
If the Fed is "very poorly understood by just about everybody," the only reason for that is that no one's paying them much attention. Anyone interested can glean enough information on the Fed, it's activities and it's internal workings to fill a football stadium with barely any effort.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:32:48pm |
re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar
My issue is it's none of their damn business. If it were their business they'd be entitled to pass a law but they're not so in order to get it through they'll withhold tax dollars to the states that don't comply. To me, that's outrageous.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:33:46pm |
re: #105 Thanos
Another question yet to be resolved is whether Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, a prerequisite pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. There is evidence Mr. Obama was born in Kenya rather than, as he claims, Hawaii. There is also a registration document for a school in Indonesia where the would-be president studied for four years, on which he was identified not only as a Muslim but as an Indonesian. If correct, the latter could give rise to another potential problem with respect to his eligibility to be president.
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dugmartsch Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:35:02pm |
re: #98 Obdicut
It is not a black box. Did you watch the video? How are they a black box?
So you're saying your comfortable with the level of publicly available information about the process of Bear Sterns being bought by Goldman Sach's, and the hand that the Fed played in bringing that about?
Or hell let's go back to Mexico's bailout by the Fed during Clinton that circumvented the Congress entirely. That's cool too?
Five years of completely private, though publicly funded, meetings, and no logs of phone calls, communications, emails, or face to face meetings, ever.
Sure that's completely transparent.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:36:29pm |
re: #108 RogueOne
My issue is it's none of their damn business. If it were their business they'd be entitled to pass a law but they're not so in order to get it through they'll withhold tax dollars to the states that don't comply. To me, that's outrageous.
Agreed. It's blackmailing states to force them to pass legislation that would clearly be shot down if passed at the federal level.
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SixDegrees Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:36:47pm |
re: #103 RogueOne
I screwed up and posted this in the wrong thread so I'm going to repost it here if that's alright.
OK. If Obama doesn't step in and shut this guy up I'm going to quickly develop a severe case of ODS.
[Link: [Link: www.usnews.com...]...]
LaHood Seeks Federal Texting While Driving Ban
I'm sure everyone realizes that in order for there to be a "federal" ban they'll have to pull the same crap they pulled in order to enforce the seat belt and the .08 laws meaning blackmailing the states with their own damn tax dollars. This is the kind of federal overreach that just sets me off.
I agree completely that the Feds have no business inserting themselves into what is clearly and purely a matter for the states.
As we speak, today, at this very moment, the Michigan legislature is debating the enactment of just such a ban.
I've gotta say, I find it rather astonishing that there is any dissent, but there is. Still, this is an area the Feds need to butt out of.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:36:58pm |
re: #108 RogueOne
How long until all cars need a black box installed? I know they put them on newer cars. I would tell a dealer to remove it. And I don't want to hear it is in my best interest to have it. ( Not talking about you, Rogue.)
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SixDegrees Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:37:59pm |
re: #110 dugmartsch
So you're saying your comfortable with the level of publicly available information about the process of Bear Sterns being bought by Goldman Sach's, and the hand that the Fed played in bringing that about?
Or hell let's go back to Mexico's bailout by the Fed during Clinton that circumvented the Congress entirely. That's cool too?
Five years of completely private, though publicly funded, meetings, and no logs of phone calls, communications, emails, or face to face meetings, ever.
Sure that's completely transparent.
Ron Paul is lying to you.
Sorry to be the one to break the news.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:38:20pm |
re: #112 SixDegrees
I agree completely that the Feds have no business inserting themselves into what is clearly and purely a matter for the states.
As we speak, today, at this very moment, the Michigan legislature is debating the enactment of just such a ban.
I've gotta say, I find it rather astonishing that there is any dissent, but there is. Still, this is an area the Feds need to butt out of.
Uh oh, "state's rights" is code for racism. Are you exposing yourself??
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:38:33pm |
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:39:37pm |
re: #114 SixDegrees
Ron Paul is lying to you.
Sorry to be the one to break the news.
Ron Paul says some stuff that really connects with people's concerns. And then he says a lot of shit that is really wacko.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:40:00pm |
re: #75 RogueOne
"New Missile Defense Agency Logo Causes Online Commotion... " isn't a very loaded headline.
Just out of curiosity, was the open comparison to this image with the commentary "Islamic flag? Crescent moon and star," too cryptic for you?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:40:38pm |
re: #118 cliffster
Ron Paul says some stuff that really connects with people's concerns. And then he says a lot of shit that is really wacko.
And most times it's in the same sentence!
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SixDegrees Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:41:02pm |
re: #115 cliffster
Uh oh, "state's rights" is code for racism. Are you exposing yourself??
Actually, one of the objections raised in today's Michigan session was that banning texting while driving was, somehow, racist. Seriously.
Don't even ask me why. They tried explaining it, and the stupid was so strong my brain shut itself off.
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subsailor68 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:41:43pm |
Afternoon all! A little OT to be sure, but I'm not particularly comfortable with this proposal by Rep. Brad Miller of North Carolina:
Briefly, it is a proposal to bring back FDR's Home Owners’ Loan Corporation (“HOLC”) for the purpose of buying up mortgages in trouble. There is a short description of how that worked.
My issue is with the concept Rep. Miller posits on the second page:
The new HOLC could buy mortgages by eminent domain.
The discussion on how this would work is too long to paraphrase here, but the idea that the Federal Government, via HOLC, would use eminent domain to force mortgage holders to sell the mortgages to HOLC is unsettling to me - to say the least.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:41:52pm |
The logo story appears to have started over at Weasle zippers, migrated to the Moonie Times, and from there to big gov't.
I knew WZ was lying scum after the Ronbo incident.
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:42:28pm |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
How long until all cars need a black box installed? I know they put them on newer cars. I would tell a dealer to remove it. And I don't want to hear it is in my best interest to have it. ( Not talking about you, Rogue.)
You can't remove it, it's part of the computer and can be used to improve safety.Black Boxes.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:44:03pm |
re: #119 goddamnedfrank
Just out of curiosity, was the open comparison to this image with the commentary "Islamic flag? Crescent moon and star," too cryptic for you?
I'm not sure I understand your argument. Are you saying drudge is mistaken, that the new logo did not cause an "online commotion"?
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SixDegrees Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:45:33pm |
re: #124 avanti
You can't remove it, it's part of the computer and can be used to improve safety.Black Boxes.
Nonetheless, expect Congress to regulate these soon. They're discussing it on the Hill today, in fact, complaining that "all" auto manufacturers have made the contents and operation of their "black box" systems publicly available - except for Toyota.
Any guesses on how long it will take for them to demand not only access to, but standardization and "enhancement" of the data collected and stored as a matter of law?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:45:43pm |
re: #124 avanti
You can't remove it, it's part of the computer and can be used to improve safety.Black Boxes.
Well, I saw a 1974 Pontiac Tank today for a grand. I'd feel safer in that than any car with a black box.:)
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Charles Johnson Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:46:03pm |
re: #123 Thanos
The logo story appears to have started over at Weasle zippers, migrated to the Moonie Times, and from there to big gov't.
I knew WZ was lying scum after the Ronbo incident.
Gaffney thinks it's a sign of the Obama administration's submission to sharia law. Seriously. He actually wrote this.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:46:09pm |
re: #125 RogueOne
I'm not sure I understand your argument. Are you saying drudge is mistaken, that the new logo did not cause an "online commotion"?
No, I'm saying that Drudge is playing the part of the pig-ignorant religiously intolerant shit disturber and you are making excuses for it.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:47:48pm |
re: #129 goddamnedfrank
No, I'm saying that Drudge is playing the part of the pig-ignorant religiously intolerant shit disturber and you are making excuses for it.
So your saying he should have ignored the story. Do you usually get all wound up when someone reports on a story you don't believe has any significance or is it just drudge you don't like?
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:48:18pm |
re: #128 Charles
Gaffney thinks it's a sign of the Obama administration's submission to sharia law. Seriously. He actually wrote this.
Yeah well he also accused Grover Norquist of being a sekret muslim... he's a very serious Clash of Civilizations kinda guy. The earliest mention appears to be at WZ's either on the 23rd or before, I can't find the post because he doesn't have search enabled.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:48:53pm |
re: #130 RogueOne
I think the point is that 'stirs up online commotion' is pretty asinine for Drudge to say when he's the one doing the stirring.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:50:10pm |
re: #132 Obdicut
I think the point is that 'stirs up online commotion' is pretty asinine for Drudge to say when he's the one doing the stirring.
And I think it's much-ado about nothing. If drudge is behaving like a troll then frank just stepped in it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:50:13pm |
Flipping intertubes... the cyber gods are not smiling on me today...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:51:11pm |
re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Flipping intertubes... the cyber gods are not smiling on me today...
You're being punished for that thing you did.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:52:06pm |
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:52:14pm |
re: #132 Obdicut
I think the point is that 'stirs up online commotion' is pretty asinine for Drudge to say when he's the one doing the stirring.
CBS News has picked up the story, the left can only hope someone will question Gibbs about it a the press conference.
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subsailor68 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:52:48pm |
Heck, I never liked 'em anyway - especially as a little boy!
Tampa man arrested for wearing clown mask, wig
Well, okay, I guess it is a little bit over the top.
;-)
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:52:50pm |
re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, I saw a 1974 Pontiac Tank today for a grand. I'd feel safer in that than any car with a black box.:)
Yeah, who needs driver, passenger, and side airbags, crumple zones, anti-lock brakes, crash resistant door pillars, stability control, adaptive cruise control, automatic collision avoidance braking, automated emergency response, or any of the other safety advancements made in the last 36 years?
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:53:55pm |
re: #137 avanti
CBS News has picked up the story, the left can only hope someone will question Gibbs about it a the press conference.
Does Les Kingsolving (is that his name?) from WND still get to go to briefings? If so, Gibbs will be asked.
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lawhawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:54:15pm |
Rep. Grayson, critic of Blackwater, was apparently rescued from the craziness in Niger by.... wait for it... Blackwater (or as it's now known - Xe).
But did Blackwater contractors come to his rescue last week, when Grayson was traveling in Niger and a military coup erupted? It certainly seems that way, considering the prepared testimony of Xe executive vice president Fred Roitz, who will testify later today in connection with a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Blackwater subsidiary Paravant. In his remarks, he stated: "Xe Services, through its subsidiary Presidential Airways, provides aviation support and medevac services to Defense Department personnel in Africa. Just last week, our personnel evacuated a congressman from Niger during civil unrest."
And that jibes with what CNN reported with Grayson claiming he heard gunfire in his vicinity.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:54:59pm |
re: #137 avanti
CBS News has picked up the story, the left can only hope someone will question Gibbs about it a the press conference.
Outrageous Outrage!
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:56:40pm |
re: #128 Charles
Gaffney thinks it's a sign of the Obama administration's submission to sharia law. Seriously. He actually wrote this.
Apparently appallingly bad graphic design wasn't enough reason for him to dislike this new logo. Did these guys hire the same firm as the USAF?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:57:14pm |
re: #139 CyanSnowHawk
Yeah, who needs driver, passenger, and side airbags, crumple zones, anti-lock brakes, crash resistant door pillars, stability control, adaptive cruise control, automatic collision avoidance braking, automated emergency response, or any of the other safety advancements made in the last 36 years?
/
You forgot to add that a '74 Pontiac gets about 10 MPG. Heh.
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wrenchwench Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:57:14pm |
re: #128 Charles
Gaffney thinks it's a sign of the Obama administration's submission to sharia law. Seriously. He actually wrote this.
Sharia law requires garish logos? I missed that...
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:57:51pm |
re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar
Well, I saw a 1974 Pontiac Tank today for a grand. I'd feel safer in that than any car with a black box.:)
Watch this, and think again:
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:57:52pm |
re: #62 webevintage
I guess it is now expected that beauty queens make sure they express the proper amount of hate of Teh!Gay:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Looks like someone is feeling a need to make money off the SoCon folks in this country until videos of her doing something naughty show up.
I like the part about how she has a lot of gay friends.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:58:12pm |
re: #146 wrenchwench
Sharia law requires garish logos? I missed that...
It's on their membership cards.
/
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:59:06pm |
Ban on texting while driving is a great idea...at a state level. I'd also like the gals out there who drive and put on make up to stop.
Right now.
(Ar did pass a no texting while driving law last year)
I like the new super sekrit Muslim in disguise logo....of course I might be a sekrit!Muslim and just don't know it.
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Randall Gross Wed, Feb 24, 2010 12:59:26pm |
re: #147 lawhawk
The stupid is certainly strong in Gaffney for that kind of reasoning.
I would be much more concerned with just how much money it cost to redesign a perfectly good logo for the Missile Defense Agency (the original logo can be found at the bottom of the main graphic here).
You also have to question his conclusion as well, If you were muslim and overly sensitive you might be saying "Why is the missile exploding in the crescent?"
Maybe O is sending a subtle message to Iran...
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:00:10pm |
re: #147 lawhawk
The stupid is certainly strong in Gaffney for that kind of reasoning.
I would be much more concerned with just how much money it cost to redesign a perfectly good logo for the Missile Defense Agency (the original logo can be found at the bottom of the main graphic here).
That's it. "If it ain't broke . . . "
The government, however . . . So let's expend the energy in the right area.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:00:27pm |
re: #148 avanti
Watch this, and think again:
Yeah I always thought the same way - big steel cast iron tank of a car made in 1970 would be perfect for my kids when they get to driving age. Then I saw a video like this (might have even been this one) and realized - technology is pretty good.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:01:00pm |
OT ,, and breaking
Female whale trainer killed at Sea World Orlando
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:01:16pm |
re: #148 avanti
Watch this, and think again:
Ouch. When I was a kid (11) a woman ran a red light, T-boned a '67 Lincoln I was in She was doing 60 (my side). I got 12 stitches.
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subsailor68 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:01:41pm |
Okay, just can't resist. This arrived in an e-mail:
WHY WOMEN SHOULDN'T TAKE MEN SHOPPING
After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to
Target. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunate, my wife is like most women - she loves to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Target.
Dear Mrs. Samuel,
Over the past six months, your husband has caused quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against your husband, Mr. Samuel, are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras.
1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in other people's carts when they weren't looking.
2. July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in House wares to go off at 5-minute intervals.
3. July 7: He made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the
women's restroom.
4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in House wares. Get on it right away'. This caused the employee to leave her assigned station and receive a reprimand from her Supervisor that in turn resulted with a union grievance, causing management to lose time and costing the company money.
5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of M&Ms on layaway.
6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area.
7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told the children shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department to which twenty children obliged.
8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' EMT's were called.
9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose.
10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were.
11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the 'Mission Impossible' theme.
12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels.
13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!'
14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!'
And last, but not least:
15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here.' One of the clerks passed out.
Regards,
Mr. Henry D. Good
Store Manager
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:01:49pm |
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:02:20pm |
re: #151 webevintage
Ban on texting while driving is a great idea...at a state level. I'd also like the gals out there who drive and put on make up to stop.
Right now.
(Ar did pass a no texting while driving law last year)I like the new super sekrit Muslim in disguise logo...of course I might be a sekrit!Muslim and just don't know it.
I want texting to be allowed while you're driving. If you see someone being a jackass, like going 45mph in the left-most lane, you text their license plate number to some state DPS number. If someone gets, say, 20 texts on them in a month, no more driver's license for them.
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:02:31pm |
re: #151 webevintage
Ban on texting while driving is a great idea...at a state level. I'd also like the gals out there who drive and put on make up to stop.
Right now.
(Ar did pass a no texting while driving law last year)I like the new super sekrit Muslim in disguise logo...of course I might be a sekrit!Muslim and just don't know it.
I dreamed I was a sekrit Muslim in my Maidenform bra.
(Pay me no mind--I was looking at old magazine ads today)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:04:21pm |
re: #157 subsailor68
You see that as a funny. I see that as a plan.:)
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:04:34pm |
re: #160 Silvergirl
I dreamed I was a sekrit Muslim in my Maidenform bra.
(Pay me no mind--I was looking at old magazine ads today)
I'm a sekrit asian man.
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:05:53pm |
re: #162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm a sekrit asian man.
They've given you a number and taken away your name
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:06:18pm |
re: #155 sattv4u2
OT ,, and breaking
Female whale trainer killed at Sea World Orlando
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Woman was one of the "seniot trainers" at the park
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webevintage Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:06:31pm |
re: #160 Silvergirl
I dreamed I was a sekrit Muslim in my Maidenform bra.
(Pay me no mind--I was looking at old magazine ads today)
hahahahahaha
I have a large collection of old Vogues and Harpers (40s-80s) and I love those Maidenform ads.
I like the old Vanity Fair ads where the models hides their faces....
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:06:43pm |
re: #164 sattv4u2
Woman was one of the "
seniotSENIOR trainers" at the park
pimf ,, and it happened during a live show
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:08:30pm |
re: #163 Silvergirl
They've given you a number and taken away your name
There's a man who lives a life of danger
He travels in our midst, but he's a stranger
Los Alamos beware
It's not the Russian bear
Odds are he was sent from Mainland China
Now they have technologies to start with
Things that we would never dare to part with
He grabbed our warhead tricks
With secret spy chopsticks
Then he sent them back to Mainland China
Secret Asian Man
Secret Asian Man
A Chinese Austin Powers
On a mission from Chairman Mao
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:08:32pm |
I need to get something done. BBL.
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torrentprime Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:09:34pm |
re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar
You see that as a funny. I see that as a plan.:)
Ever seen Skippy's list of things he's not allowed to do in the US Army? Some of my favs:
94. Crucifixes do not ward off officers, and I should not test that.
109. I am not authorized to change national policy in Eastern Europe.
173. I am not allowed to create new levels of security clearance.
192. The proper response to a briefing is not “That’s what you think”.
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avanti Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:10:38pm |
re: #154 cliffster
Yeah I always thought the same way - big steel cast iron tank of a car made in 1970 would be perfect for my kids when they get to driving age. Then I saw a video like this (might have even been this one) and realized - technology is pretty good.
It's a lot about letting the car absorb the impact, not the driver. This one is amazing.
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Cokezero Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:11:10pm |
A beautiful diary on Ron Paul over at Daily Kos today:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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blueraven Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:12:56pm |
re: #151 webevintage
Ban on texting while driving is a great idea...at a state level. I'd also like the gals out there who drive and put on make up to stop.
Right now.
(Ar did pass a no texting while driving law last year)I like the new super sekrit Muslim in disguise logo...of course I might be a sekrit!Muslim and just don't know it.
I use to carpool occasionally with a girl friend back in the 80s. I swear, she would be taking out her hot rollers, applying makeup, drinking coffee and lighting a cigarette while fumbling with the tape cassette deck adjusting the volume to full blast.
By the time I got to work I was a wreck. The one saving grace was that I knew on the ride home we would do happy hour at a bar within walking distance of my apartment. I soon figured out the carpooling just wasn't worth it.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:12:57pm |
re: #170 avanti
It's a lot about letting the car absorb the impact, not the driver. This one is amazing.
[Video]
Wow, that's sweet.
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:13:40pm |
re: #169 torrentprime
Ever seen Skippy's list of things he's not allowed to do in the US Army? Some of my favs:
94. Crucifixes do not ward off officers, and I should not test that.
109. I am not authorized to change national policy in Eastern Europe.
173. I am not allowed to create new levels of security clearance.
192. The proper response to a briefing is not “That’s what you think”.
I add the term “In accordance with the prophecy” to my answers on various conference calls, its only been caught once.
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Jeff In Ohio Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:15:18pm |
re: #137 avanti
CBS News has picked up the story, the left can only hope someone will question Gibbs about it a the press conference.
Wait, I thought South Carolina was the nexus of American Sekrit Islamo Confederate Society.
pssst, we're a meetn' under the palmettos. Bring yourn hash pipes.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:15:35pm |
I just found Ron Paul's parents' wedding announcement
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ShaunP Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:15:43pm |
re: #172 blueraven
I use to carpool occasionally with a girl friend back in the 80s. I swear, she would be taking out her hot rollers, applying makeup, drinking coffee and lighting a cigarette while fumbling with the tape cassette deck adjusting the volume to full blast.
By the time I got to work I was a wreck. The one saving grace was that I knew on the ride home we would do happy hour at a bar within walking distance of my apartment. I soon figured out the carpooling just wasn't worth it.
I have, on occasion, seen people reading books/newspapers while driving. South Florida drivers are the worst...
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:17:23pm |
re: #172 blueraven
I use to carpool occasionally with a girl friend back in the 80s. I swear, she would be taking out her hot rollers, applying makeup, drinking coffee and lighting a cigarette while fumbling with the tape cassette deck adjusting the volume to full blast.
By the time I got to work I was a wreck. The one saving grace was that I knew on the ride home we would do happy hour at a bar within walking distance of my apartment. I soon figured out the carpooling just wasn't worth it.
Is she sill living? Years of that sort of risky driving behavior have to take her odds of survival down.
I used to ride with a guy who would eat those big greasy two-fisted burgers while driving with his knees. I survived, but now require drivers to have a hand on the wheel.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:17:27pm |
re: #172 blueraven
I use to carpool occasionally with a girl friend back in the 80s. I swear, she would be taking out her hot rollers, applying makeup, drinking coffee and lighting a cigarette while fumbling with the tape cassette deck adjusting the volume to full blast.
By the time I got to work I was a wreck. The one saving grace was that I knew on the ride home we would do happy hour at a bar within walking distance of my apartment. I soon figured out the carpooling just wasn't worth it.
Does she look familiar!?!?
[Link: blogs.orlandosentinel.com...]
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:18:29pm |
re: #176 cliffster
I just found Ron Paul's parents' wedding announcement
It shows up itty-bitty on my computer--can't see it well.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:20:01pm |
re: #180 Silvergirl
It shows up itty-bitty on my computer--can't see it well.
Last names of the "newleyweds"
Lonney - Warde
(wedding announcment photo)
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:20:21pm |
re: #181 sattv4u2
Last names of the "newleyweds"
LonneyLooney - Warde(wedding announcment photo)
pimf
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sattv4u2 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:22:03pm |
re: #178 Silvergirl
Is she sill living? Years of that sort of risky driving behavior have to take her odds of survival down.
I used to ride with a guy who would eat those big greasy two-fisted burgers while driving with his knees. I survived, but now require drivers to have a hand on the wheel.
in bed!
//
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blueraven Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:22:52pm |
re: #178 Silvergirl
Is she sill living? Years of that sort of risky driving behavior have to take her odds of survival down.
I used to ride with a guy who would eat those big greasy two-fisted burgers while driving with his knees. I survived, but now require drivers to have a hand on the wheel.
She is still living but sadly has been to prison for drug related charges. She has two kids, one grown son with drug problems of his own and a teenage daughter who has to suffer the embarrassment her mother has inflicted on the family. I actually haven't seen or spoke with her in years. There are just some people you have to let go of for your own self preservation.
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darthstar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:29:38pm |
re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar
You forgot to add that a '74 Pontiac gets about 10 MPG. Heh.
6 highway, 4 city. ;)
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:32:34pm |
re: #184 blueraven
She is still living but sadly has been to prison for drug related charges. She has two kids, one grown son with drug problems of his own and a teenage daughter who has to suffer the embarrassment her mother has inflicted on the family. I actually haven't seen or spoke with her in years. There are just some people you have to let go of for your own self preservation.
Sad story for all concerned. On the self preservation comment--too true!
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:39:29pm |
As noted by a link in the spin-offs, there is a brouhaha developing over a student's desire to not recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
Over on one of Murdoch's hate sites, FoxNation, you can probably guess (easily) what the reactions entail.
The ugliness of the ultra-right is really starting to boil over... Full of hatred and fear, I consider the current right wing fomenting to be the ugliest political manifestation in my adult lifetime (I came of age after the 1965 Civil Rights act.)
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Ericus58 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:44:03pm |
re: #187 freetoken
What is the student's reason for not repeating the Pledge?
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:44:19pm |
BTW, speaking of Murdoch's favorite hate site, FoxNation, they have another article up titled "Ole Miss Mascot Dumped".
As you could guess, the comments contain some of the most vile stuff you'll read on the net, worse than even many of the Freeper entries.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:44:55pm |
re: #187 freetoken
Not really. We have the internet now. Almost everyone is on it. Every site has a comments section in their postings. Like I said earlier, Ron Paul isn't that weird; he's a lot like the guy down the road. The attitudes you're seeing have always been around, but until now it wasn't so easily heard.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:46:30pm |
re: #188 Ericus58
Don't know, and frankly I don't care. You can go up to the spin-offs and read the article linked by Locker.
I remember way back in grade school, in my class we had a couple of girls who would not recite the pledge - if I remember correctly both were from JW families and it was a religious thing.
Forced magical incantations are not a sign of patriotism.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:47:11pm |
re: #188 Ericus58
Maybe he was a Quaker. Maybe he came from an ex-communist country and didn't like the idea of pledging. Maybe he's just someone who knows what free speech means.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:48:27pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
Maybe he was a Quaker. Maybe he came from an ex-communist country and didn't like the idea of pledging. Maybe he's just someone who knows what free speech means.
maybe fuck you if you don't like that I don't want to say the pledge
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:50:27pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
Maybe he was a Quaker. Maybe he came from an ex-communist country and didn't like the idea of pledging. Maybe he's just someone who knows what free speech means.
Could be a communist!
///
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:50:30pm |
re: #191 freetoken
Don't know, and frankly I don't care. You can go up to the spin-offs and read the article linked by Locker.
I remember way back in grade school, in my class we had a couple of girls who would not recite the pledge - if I remember correctly both were from JW families and it was a religious thing.
Forced magical incantations are not a sign of patriotism.
Agreed. Just a a relevant quote from the article and a supporting link.
The right to sit silently during the Pledge of Allegiance has been held up by the US Supreme Court, and is enshrined in Maryland state law and Mongtomery County Public Schools' own policies, reports the Washington Post.
"No one will be permitted to intentionally embarrass you if you choose not to participate," says the school district's handbook, according to TheGazette.net in Maryland.
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prairiefire Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:54:41pm |
re: #190 cliffster
We're a free floatin', crazy nation. It goes with all of our freedoms, freedom to think the crazy.
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zora Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:57:19pm |
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
McCain: Obama Suspended His Campaign Too!
more revised history
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Ericus58 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:57:46pm |
re: #191 freetoken
I also grew up with several kids that didn't due to religious reasons. Always good to know the reasoning behind actions, that's all I was asking.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:59:11pm |
re: #197 zora
[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
McCain: Obama Suspended His Campaign Too!
more revised history
Huh? I really don't get this. 'Suspending' his campaign was a bad move, one that probably bit him in the tuchis--but what is the earthly point of rehashing and rewriting this now?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 1:59:22pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:00:58pm |
re: #200 ggt
I hope that don't put him down now, but they probably will. A 30 year old, 12,300 pounds Bull Orca.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:02:02pm |
re: #201 prairiefire
I hope that don't put him down now, but they probably will. A 30 year old, 12,300 pounds Bull Orca.
How long do you cook Orca?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:02:39pm |
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zora Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:03:17pm |
re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist
he has been criticized for suspending his campaign by his primary opponent. first he said that bush told him to suspend his campaign. his spokesperson walked that claim back a bit. then he said he did not support the bailout. now finally obama suspended his campaign too. i almost feel sorry for mccain watching him flail about in his attempt for reelection.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:03:49pm |
re: #201 prairiefire
I hope that don't put him down now, but they probably will. A 30 year old, 12,300 pounds Bull Orca.
I don't know where we got this idea that killing one of us was the only unforgiveable sin in an animal. We kill anything we've a mind to.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:04:28pm |
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:05:44pm |
A double dip recession?
New home sales fall to a record low
Sales of new homes plunged to a record low in January, government figures showed Wednesday, as the weak economy and a glut of foreclosed homes continue to weigh on the market.
The seasonally adjusted annual rate of new home sales plummeted 11.2% to 309,000 last month, compared with a revised rate of 348,000 in December, the Census Bureau said. That's a decline 6.1% from January 2009.
It was the lowest rate since the government began keeping records in 1963 and comes after declines in November and December.
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prairiefire Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:06:00pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
Very Good Point. I agree, Obdicut, just let him loose. They will probably say "he couldn't survive in the wild."
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:06:18pm |
re: #169 torrentprime
Ever seen Skippy's list of things he's not allowed to do in the US Army? Some of my favs:
94. Crucifixes do not ward off officers, and I should not test that.
109. I am not authorized to change national policy in Eastern Europe.
173. I am not allowed to create new levels of security clearance.
192. The proper response to a briefing is not “That’s what you think”.
33. Not allowed to chew gum at formation, unless I brought enough for everybody.
34. (Next day) Not allowed to chew gum at formation even if I *did* bring enough for everybody.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:07:06pm |
re: #208 prairiefire
Well, he definitely won't survive if they kill him.
This message brought to you by the Council for the Statement of the Obvious.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:07:19pm |
re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist
Huh? I really don't get this. 'Suspending' his campaign was a bad move, one that probably bit him in the tuchis--but what is the earthly point of rehashing and rewriting this now?
Because life is so good all we have to worry about is a senator mispeaking about something incredibly trivial and the new logo for a fed agency. If you listen really quietly you can probably hear my head banging against my desk all the way from Indiana.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:07:24pm |
re: #201 prairiefire
I hope that don't put him down now, but they probably will. A 30 year old, 12,300 pounds Bull Orca.
I would be very surprised if that happened. It's a wild animal; they know that.
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ShaunP Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:08:12pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't know where we got this idea that killing one of us was the only unforgiveable sin in an animal. We kill anything we've a mind to.
It's not so much that it's a sin, but that if an animal tries to eat a human (or succeeds in doing so) that they might possibly make a habit of it.
I'm not sure that applies in this case though and I'm all for releasing the killer whale either way.
Fun fact; did you know that killer whales in captivity sing their "family song" throughout their entire lives? Chances are that a killer whale released back to the family pod's area will rejoin the group that they originated from...
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:08:12pm |
re: #201 prairiefire
I hope that don't put him down now, but they probably will. A 30 year old, 12,300 pounds Bull Orca.
Seems like it is not the first time --Orca's have a habit of "playing" with people.
I don't think I've heard of captive sharks attacking quite so much.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:08:36pm |
Speaking of trivial, unless someone can talk me out of it I'm going to go get the new blackberry storm. My trackball broke so I'm using that as an excuse.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:09:51pm |
re: #215 RogueOne
Speaking of trivial, unless someone can talk me out of it I'm going to go get the new blackberry storm. My trackball broke so I'm using that as an excuse.
I'm lovin' my iPhone. I have no intention of going back to Blackberry. Just the easy of interface with my PC alone is a good reason.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:11:06pm |
re: #216 ggt
I'm lovin' my iPhone. I have no intention of going back to Blackberry. Just the easy of interface with my PC alone is a good reason.
I'm not all that good with dealing with cults. Don't care for kool-aid///
Steve Jobs is the devil.
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Silvergirl Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:11:10pm |
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:11:39pm |
re: #213 ShaunP
It's not so much that it's a sin, but that if an animal tries to eat a human (or succeeds in doing so) that they might possibly make a habit of it.
And it's frustrating that we will take an animal away from it's home and keep it in captivity. Imprison it, really. And then if it hurts somebody - whoa! It's tasted blood! Now we have to put it down. Stupid
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Bubblehead II Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:13:11pm |
Not defending the guy in this story. He is a scuz bucket and deserves what he 's gotten. But I think this ruling is gonna open the door to a lot of abuse.
Supreme Court: Suspect's request for counsel prior to interrogation does not hold forever
"A suspect's request that a lawyer be present before submitting to police questioning does not last forever, the Supreme Court ruled Wednesday. In fact, 14 days is long enough for police to wait before taking the alleged perpetrator into custody again and attempting another interrogation."
wash,rinse, repeat every 15th day until they get the answers they want.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:13:21pm |
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:13:46pm |
My wife called and left me on speakerphone and forgot I was here. I can hear her cussing at the traffic. She has a severe potty mouth.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:13:52pm |
re: #214 ggt
I don't think I've heard of captive sharks attacking quite so much.
That's because they're too busy trying to dodge the octopi (about 1min into video):
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:14:41pm |
re: #224 Bubblehead II
And Bill Gates is the Antichrist.
I don't think that's possible. Mom told me I was.
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ShaunP Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:15:21pm |
re: #219 cliffster
And it's frustrating that we will take an animal away from it's home and keep it in captivity. Imprison it, really. And then if it hurts somebody - whoa! It's tasted blood! Now we have to put it down. Stupid
I concur, but I do see the point when we are talking about wild animals that have taken to hunting human beings. Animals forced to live in proximity with humans, not so much...
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:15:38pm |
re: #219 cliffster
Let's go to the circus. It's fun to parade around animals in captivity
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:17:03pm |
re: #206 Obdicut
Just let it loose.
I love Orcas. I'm biased.
Yea I don't really do zoos, circus or any type of animal show. Not saying others shouldn't go but I really have a hard time with the "amusement" factor.
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cliffster Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:18:27pm |
re: #229 Locker
Yea I don't really do zoos, circus or any type of animal show. Not saying others shouldn't go but I really have a hard time with the "amusement" factor.
See my #228 posted right before you. Real amusing.
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:19:21pm |
re: #220 RogueOne
I said...Steve Jobs is the devil.
Apple is a truly evil empire, but they have better PR.
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:20:03pm |
Related to our discussion:
abcnews.go.com - Are Dolphins Also Persons?
There seems to be little doubt now that dolphins are surprisingly intelligent, know who they are as individuals, and engage in cultural traditions that can be passed on to succeeding generations. In short, they are a lot like humans.
So, should they be treated as "persons"? Should they be recognized as fellow travelers on this planet, rather than captive exhibitionists or laboratory specimens?
Personally I'd vote up on Person-hood for Dolphins long before I'd consider a corporation a "person".
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:21:25pm |
More photography news, this time in the UK.
Mall security guard accuses shopper of being a paedophile for photographing his own son
According to his blog, Kevin visited the Bridges Shopping Centre in Sunderland with his son to spend the £10 his father gave the boy on a family visit. While there, he seated his son on a coin-operated train ride and snapped a photo of him with his cameraphone. At this point, a Bridges security guard came by and ordered him to stop taking pictures. He said that it was mall policy, and implied that Kevin was taking pictures because he was a paedophile. Kevin told him that this was ridiculous and took his son to find his wife and get out of the mall. He also took a picture of the security guard "so that if I later wanted to make a complaint to the centre I would be able to identify him."Outside of the mall, Kevin was stopped by a police constable who had received a complaint from mall security that a suspicious potential paedophile had been taking pictures on its premises. The PC threatened to arrest Kevin "for creating a public disturbance" and ordered him to delete the photo of his son. The PC also averred that the Bridges Shopping Centre is a hotbed of paedophile assaults.
People are insane.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:22:38pm |
re: #232 Locker
Related to our discussion:
abcnews.go.com - Are Dolphins Also Persons?
Personally I'd vote up on Person-hood for Dolphins long before I'd consider a corporation a "person".
And then they would have a right to abort little bitty dolphin fetuses.
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freetoken Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:23:26pm |
re: #232 Locker
Hmmm... tough question. I for one don't think I would go for "personhood" for cetaceans. However, I do question the slaughtering of such animals. When I lived in Japan I would see whale meat for sale at my local store... in with all the fish. (Of course, it should be over in the pork section, but to the Japanese if something has fins it's seafood.)
I'd rather see a "protected animal" status, internationally agreed, that would protect the great apes and the cetaceans.
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Vambo Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:23:30pm |
re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist
I like the part about how she has a lot of gay friends.
That's what she thinks - I'm sure they call her a fat slut behind her back.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:24:33pm |
re: #225 goddamnedfrank
That's because they're too busy trying to dodge the octopi (about 1min into video):
[Video]
ok, well, then, uh, remind me never to taunt the octopi!
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Ericus58 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:25:16pm |
re: #192 Obdicut
Maybe he was a Quaker. Maybe he came from an ex-communist country and didn't like the idea of pledging. Maybe he's just someone who knows what free speech means.
I Loves the free speech, and having served this nation of ours - embrace it.
I find ex-service folks truly understand this right and that through the efforts of not just those who have served but the diligent work of others, both in public and in private, this nation and it's citizens enjoy it.
This is not the case in many countries, even ones we might consider like us.
It's a shame really. The Rights we have in this country are at times uniquely American. Faults and all, the American Experience.
For me, saying the Pledge has meaning and I embrace it too. Not with of a sense of being a 'better' American than other citizens, because I choose to and can.
And I prefer America the Beautiful.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:26:36pm |
re: #229 Locker
Yea I don't really do zoos, circus or any type of animal show. Not saying others shouldn't go but I really have a hard time with the "amusement" factor.
If we didn't "display" these animals and view them on school field trips and then again with our own children, we would have little knowledge of them and even less empathy for them.
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Vambo Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:26:51pm |
re: #232 Locker
Related to our discussion:
abcnews.go.com - Are Dolphins Also Persons?
Personally I'd vote up on Person-hood for Dolphins long before I'd consider a corporation a "person".
It would be funny to see dolphins stand trial for rape.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:26:55pm |
re: #238 Ericus58
My grandfather didn't say the pledge, because he felt his oath of service from WWII was more than enough.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:27:33pm |
re: #232 Locker
Related to our discussion:
abcnews.go.com - Are Dolphins Also Persons?
Personally I'd vote up on Person-hood for Dolphins long before I'd consider a corporation a "person".
I do have a soft spot for fellow mammels.
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Vambo Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:28:08pm |
re: #233 RogueOne
More photography news, this time in the UK.
Mall security guard accuses shopper of being a paedophile for photographing his own son
People are insane.
Still not as insane as the teenage Dutch (?) girl who was arrested on charges of child pornography..... for posting nude pictures of herself.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:28:30pm |
re: #241 Obdicut
My grandfather didn't say the pledge, because he felt his oath of service from WWII was more than enough.
And that was his right, which Jehovah's Witness' won around 1948. I remember standing at many an event not saying it when I was a Jehovah's Witness.
Did you agree with your grandfathers stance on not saying the pledge?
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Kragar Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:28:48pm |
re: #240 Vambo
It would be funny to see dolphins stand trial for rape.
[Video]
"So Flippy, where were you on the night of the 15th?"
"Flippy is my slave name, my true name is EEEICKICKEEEICK!"
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:29:11pm |
re: #235 freetoken
Hmmm... tough question. I for one don't think I would go for "personhood" for cetaceans. However, I do question the slaughtering of such animals. When I lived in Japan I would see whale meat for sale at my local store... in with all the fish. (Of course, it should be over in the pork section, but to the Japanese if something has fins it's seafood.)
I'd rather see a "protected animal" status, internationally agreed, that would protect the great apes and the cetaceans.
IIRC, Japan repeatedly violates any endangered species acts if it involves "manhood" myths. It has been a problem for a long time.
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RogueOne Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:30:08pm |
re: #243 Vambo
Still not as insane as the teenage Dutch (?) girl who was arrested on charges of child pornography... for posting nude pictures of herself.
That's happened here too. Actually, it's happened quite a bit here.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:31:22pm |
re: #245 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"So Flippy, where were you on the night of the 15th?"
"Flippy is my slave name, my true name is EEEICKICKEEEICK!"
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:31:35pm |
can't go upstairs, too much to do.
Have a great afternoon all!
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prairiefire Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:32:23pm |
I have a friend who bought a used video camera at a pawn shop. It still had a tape in it that showed proof that the previous owner had sexually abused his young son. My friend turned it into the police, a grand jury saw the evidence, the guy was caught and convicted, all in pretty short order.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:32:27pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:35:22pm |
re: #252 Obdicut
What do you mean by 'agree'?
You see nothing wrong with your grandfather not saying the pledge, right?
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:37:02pm |
re: #253 Walter L. Newton
Of course not, as could have easily been understood from my previous statements on the pledge.
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bosforus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:37:21pm |
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) really lets his kook flag fly in this clip, accusing the Federal Reserve of helping Saddam Hussein buy weapons, helping fund the Watergate burglary, and planning a secret bailout of … Greece.
Man, those Toyota hearings are getting out of control!
/
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Nadnerb Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:38:10pm |
Oh that crazy uncle Paul is at it again! What an embarrassment he is. Paranoid freaking loon voted #1 @ CPAC. A friend to Alex Jones, this guy makes Glenn Beck look like William F Buckley. He will drag the tea party loons down the third party hole and make sure BHO gets re-elected if he isn't completely marginalized. Thank you Charles for working toward this.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:38:17pm |
re: #254 Obdicut
Of course not, as could have easily been understood from my previous statements on the pledge.
Good (I did not see you previous statement, I just got back to this thread after taking care of something)... so what's with the snarky mood? I simply asked a question.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:39:34pm |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but asking people questions they've already answered is annoying.
So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know what's going on.
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:42:05pm |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
Good (I did not see you previous statement, I just got back to this thread after taking care of something)... so what's with the snarky mood? I simply asked a question.
That's fairly amusing coming from the king of all snark. Your dolphin fetus comment was what... eight minutes ago?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:43:24pm |
re: #258 Obdicut
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but asking people questions they've already answered is annoying.
So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know what's going on.
Tough shit... go read a book. I asked you a simple question, nicely. If you don't like it, then go on to something else, don't answer.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:44:30pm |
There he is. Winner of the 2010 CPAC straw poll. Future president of the United States. I know, I know. The CPAC straw poll "was an inside job."
What a crack up.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:46:34pm |
re: #260 Locker
That's fairly amusing coming from the king of all snark. Your dolphin fetus comment was what... eight minutes ago?
Reading is comprehension. I dropped out of this thread at #77. I just went up thread and saw that Freetoken first mentioned the "pledge" comment at #187.
I was gone, and not back until my dolphin comment at #234. So, I did not see any of the previous "pledge" discussion.
You loose, pay attention.
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Gus Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:48:59pm |
White collared internationalist flashing down the street,Pointing their new world order finger at me.
They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die,
But I'm gonna wave my kook flag high, high.
Wave on, wave on
Fall dollar, just don't fall on me
Go ahead on Mr. Federal Reserve man, you can't dress like me.
Sing on Brother, play on drummer.
/Step away from the brown acid Mr. Paul.
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Obdicut Wed, Feb 24, 2010 2:59:12pm |
re: #263 Walter L. Newton
You loose, pay attention.
There's no need to attack Locker's chastity, Walter.
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Merkin Wed, Feb 24, 2010 4:37:50pm |
This is the man CPAC selected as the best person from the right to be the next President?
Who said conservatives don't have a sense of humor.
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Surabaya Stew Wed, Feb 24, 2010 4:55:45pm |
re: #244 Walter L. Newton
And that was his right, which Jehovah's Witness' won around 1948. I remember standing at many an event not saying it when I was a Jehovah's Witness.
Did you agree with your grandfathers stance on not saying the pledge?
The JW's certainly are active in defending themselves whenever their religious practices have been threatened by government. Whatever one thinks of their beliefs, their tenacity in this regard is to be admired.
| 268 |
Surabaya Stew Wed, Feb 24, 2010 5:00:39pm |
re: #244 Walter L. Newton
And that was his right, which Jehovah's Witness' won around 1948. I remember standing at many an event not saying it when I was a Jehovah's Witness.
Did you agree with your grandfathers stance on not saying the pledge?
The date was actually 1943. It reversed a Supreme Court decision made only three years earlier! Could be the fastest reconsideration of a First Amendment issue ever.
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captdiggs Wed, Feb 24, 2010 6:22:55pm |
Breaking news!
Ron Paul beats all others in the Pure Craziness poll!
:)
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Locker Wed, Feb 24, 2010 9:06:17pm |
re: #263 Walter L. Newton
Reading is comprehension. I dropped out of this thread at #77. I just went up thread and saw that Freetoken first mentioned the "pledge" comment at #187.
I was gone, and not back until my dolphin comment at #234. So, I did not see any of the previous "pledge" discussion.
You loose, pay attention.
Yea reading is comprehension. You are snarky. I win.
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jordash1212 Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:43:04pm |
He was being laughed at by one of the senators too.
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Cheese Eating Victory Monkey Thu, Feb 25, 2010 4:20:27am |
The FED should nominate Ron Paul as economic advisor to Iran.
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hmcl Thu, Feb 25, 2010 8:29:16am |
Grayson is a better speaker. No fan of Ron Paul, but the FED spending hundreds of billions without accountability is insane.
[Link: www.nowpublic.com...]
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califleftyb Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:03:41am |
Ron Paul founded and is now the "honorary chairman" of a something called "Campaign for Liberty." Slog through it's website and you find anti-Semitic crap like "The History of Satanic World Banking" (guess who the bankers are) and "The Bolshevik-Zionist Axis". Like much of Paul's “grassroots” supporters the undercurrent of antisemitism is bubbling just under the surface. I wish the people of Galveston would wake up next election and flush his ass down the toilet of history, Ron Paul is more then just a joke, he is anti-American and a danger to our Democracy.
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wrenchwench Thu, Feb 25, 2010 11:33:35am |
re: #273 hmcl
Grayson is a better speaker. No fan of Ron Paul, but the FED spending hundreds of billions without accountability is insane.
[Link: www.nowpublic.com...]
That video in your link shows Bernanke testifying before Congress. What kind of "accountability" do you have in mind? R. Paul wants to dismantle the Fed. The duties now performed by the Fed would presumably devolve to Congress. And we all know how accountable they are with money.
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