1 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 10:47:37pm

I saw on Fox yesterday morning that Obama is going to take over higher education.

2 Four More Tears  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 10:52:57pm

Gimme some sugar, baby.

3 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 10:58:12pm

re: #2 JasonA

Gimme some sugar, baby.

I was considering responding, but I have no idea how…

4 freetoken  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:18:01pm

Rollin… rollin… rollin…

5 Four More Tears  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:20:37pm

re: #3 SteveMcG

I was considering responding, but I have no idea how…

And I’m starting to consider that you’ve never seen Army of Darkness.

6 SteveMcGazi  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:22:41pm

re: #5 JasonA

And I’m starting to consider that you’ve never seen Army of Darkness.

So I guess it’snot a book, huh?

7 Four More Tears  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:25:02pm

re: #6 SteveMcG

So I guess it’snot a book, huh?

90’s pop culture, with such gems as:

Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I’ve got news for you pal, you ain’t leadin’ but two things, right now: Jack and shit… and Jack left town.

8 freetoken  Sun, Apr 4, 2010 11:45:01pm
9 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:23:38am

Shopping for beater cars on craigslist. THE DESCRIPTIONS ARE AMAZING [Link: portland.craigslist.org…]

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:26:00am

re: #9 WindUpBird

Shopping for beater cars on craigslist. THE DESCRIPTIONS ARE AMAZING [Link: portland.craigslist.org…]

That’s delightful.

11 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:28:20am
12 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:31:37am

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

A friend of mine needs cheap wheels. I seriously live for this stuff, it’s so much fun to shop for bad cars. Anyone can walk into a dealership! Going out to Molalla where some bearded guy in overalls is showing you his rusted out Dodge Step-side, that’s a great afternoon!

13 barflytom  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:42:30am

Just staggered home from the bar, where one of the local lefties made a fine job of missing the point when I mentioned something about the “Teabonics” thread from earlier today. I hadn’t realised how racist it is to suggest that ebonics is somehow inferior to the Queen’s English.

14 Lidane  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:58:16am

re: #6 SteveMcG

So I guess it’snot a book, huh?

15 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:00:14am

Evil Dead 2 is a better film, btu Army of Darkness still holds wonderful memories :D

16 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:15:52am

re: #12 WindUpBird

A friend of mine needs cheap wheels. I seriously live for this stuff, it’s so much fun to shop for bad cars. Anyone can walk into a dealership! Going out to Molalla where some bearded guy in overalls is showing you his rusted out Dodge Step-side, that’s a great afternoon!

Back in the day, and from Chicago to NYC to Hollywood, I always had great luck with cars that cost less than $200.00. May they rest in peace.

17 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:18:31am

LGF Graveyard Shift:

freetoken
goddamnedfrank
Obdicut
ozbloke
reine.de.tout
ryannon
WindUpBird

18 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:19:05am

re: #16 ryannon

I don’t think that is possible any more, out here in California. Yeah, might find something for $200, but then you need to spend $$$ to get it to pass inspection.

19 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:19:30am

re: #17 ryannon

20 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:26:23am

re: #19 freetoken

Freetoken:

21 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:29:12am

re: #18 freetoken

I don’t think that is possible any more, out here in California. Yeah, might find something for $200, but then you need to spend $$$ to get it to pass inspection.

Let’s see: A sweet little Nash Ramber; a VW convertible (that blew up on the Massachusetts Turnpike; a ‘53 Chevvy convertible that made it up and down Highway 1 before the brakes went out….

Yeah, it was a long time ago, but it was fun :-)

22 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:34:05am

re: #20 ryannon

I’ve been watching Flying Down to Rio via Netflix, making me want for the good old days …

Interesting film in some ways - besides Astaire being billed 5th on the list of stars he steals the show. Also, it was made just before the morality code kicked in the Hollywood productions so it is loaded with suggestive language.

23 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:46:51am

re: #22 freetoken

I’ve been watching Flying Down to Rio via Netflix, making me want for the good old days …

Interesting film in some ways - besides Astaire being billed 5th on the list of stars he steals the show. Also, it was made just before the morality code kicked in the Hollywood productions so it is loaded with suggestive language.

Those good old days were a little before my good old days - and in retrospect, I’m not sure they were that good. Sure, stuff was cheaper, jobs were plentiful and - believe it or not - no one had ever heard of crack cocaine or meth labs, but it was several decades before the digital and IT revolution. Everything was kind of slow. We were in the middle of some kind of warp, like the trough of a wave, waiting for something that would actually give us the impression of going somewhere. That’s just about the time I bailed from the States - with the idea of taking a little six-month look-around the planet to see what was happening. The months went by and life was suddenly so great that there was no question of going back.

24 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:53:04am

Lessons in non-violent protest - CNN feature

Added On April 4, 2010
A pivotal civil rights battle was lost in history, until now. CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield talks with Andrew Young.

25 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:54:37am

T minus 26 minutes.

STS-131 - NasaTV

26 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 2:54:40am

And as time in Paris (where I finally decided to dig in) passed, life got shittier and shittier in ways you people would find difficult to even imagine. I’ve managed to more or less re-establish myself professionally and socially, but hanging on to one’s sanity amongst the French - who are losing theirs as they collide head-on with reality - has been an epic battle.

It’s not as if I could have been a contender if I had stayed in the States - with the energy I invested in just staying alive here, I could have been the fucking President.

And maybe that’s the moral of the story, and your ultimate good luck.

Providence works in mysterious ways.

27 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:07:35am

re: #26 ryannon

And as time in Paris (where I finally decided to dig in) passed, life got shittier and shittier in ways you people would find difficult to even imagine. I’ve managed to more or less re-establish myself professionally and socially, but hanging on to one’s sanity amongst the French - who are losing theirs as they collide head-on with reality - has been an epic battle.

It’s not as if I could have been a contender if I had stayed in the States - with the energy I invested in just staying alive here, I could have been the fucking President.

And maybe that’s the moral of the story, and your ultimate good luck.

Providence works in mysterious ways.

Are your relatives or ancestors from France?

28 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:08:20am

re: #17 ryannon

LGF Graveyard Shift:

freetoken
goddamnedfrank
Obdicut
ozbloke
reine.de.tout
ryannon
WindUpBird

At 2am, I’m really just getting started ;-)

29 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:08:25am

re: #24 Gus 802

There were a lot of heroes, both sung and unsung from that period - and battles being fought in places like Saint Augustine that never got a whole lot of media coverage….

The last time I saw John Lewis, he looked like a kid. But with the same gravitas and the same way of speaking truth to power….

30 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:08:42am

Range is green, weather is green, all emergency landing sites are green.

31 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:09:37am

re: #16 ryannon

Back in the day, and from Chicago to NYC to Hollywood, I always had great luck with cars that cost less than $200.00. May they rest in peace.

I had a yellow 1978 Toyota Corolla that cost me about $300, it often refused to start without clicking the ignition about 90 times but the engine pulled strong for the three years I owned it, right up to when I sold it for a hundred bucks to a coworker. :D

32 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:12:11am

re: #29 ryannon

There were a lot of heroes, both sung and unsung from that period - and battles being fought in places like Saint Augustine that never got a whole lot of media coverage…

The last time I saw John Lewis, he looked like a kid. But with the same gravitas and the same way of speaking truth to power…

Lewis is indeed a pillar and an eye to a time in history we should never forget. Knowing that it happened within my lifetime makes it more poignant. But no one should ever forget.

I can’t fathom what would drive a man to pour acid into a swimming pool (that was for white’s only at the time) because he found black people in the pool.

33 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:15:10am

re: #27 Gus 802

Are your relatives or ancestors from France?

No, but after three years of travel and the gradual unwinding of my young and clueless American core, my instincts of self-preservation were pointing me in that direction. I’d spent a little time in Paris before setting out, and it had always both perplexed me and (sometimes) just tied me in knots. I figured (dimly) that a place with so much powerful ju-ju - and I had been in some incredible places around the world before orbiting back to Paris - was something I needed to master if I was ever going to get myself together again…

I was right - but I had no idea of how hard it would be (essentially fighting myself every inch of the way) or the price I would have to pay (the ‘death’ of the person who I had been).

34 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:16:02am

STS-131 launch.

About 6 minutes out.

NASA TV. There’s a 2 minute delay on this.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:17:27am

What’s shakin’ Lizards?!

My wife (the diabetic) bought a big ole chocolate bunny for me for Easter!

My wife (the diabetic) ate my big ole chocolate bunny last night in the middle of the night because (her sugar got low, and she tends to binge eat when her sugar gets low)…

(If she would have bought me a bowling ball, she would have drilled it to fit her fingers)

How are y’all?

36 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:18:22am

re: #32 Gus 802

Lewis is indeed a pillar and an eye to a time in history we should never forget. Knowing that it happened within my lifetime makes it more poignant. But no one should ever forget.

I can’t fathom what would drive a man to pour acid into a swimming pool (that was for white’s only at the time) because he found black people in the pool.

That man could not fathom what would drive four blacks to trespass into a white’s only swimming pool.

It was reciprocal incomprehension, and often tragic.

37 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:18:24am

re: #33 ryannon

No, but after three years of travel and the gradual unwinding of my young and clueless American core, my instincts of self-preservation were pointing me in that direction. I’d spent a little time in Paris before setting out, and it had always both perplexed me and (sometimes) just tied me in knots. I figured (dimly) that a place with so much powerful ju-ju - and I had been in some incredible places around the world before orbiting back to Paris - was something I needed to master if I was ever going to get myself together again…

I was right - but I had no idea of how hard it would be (essentially fighting myself every inch of the way) or the price I would have to pay (the ‘death’ of the person who I had been).

Ju-ju, art, cultures, music, architecture, and so on. I know it has it’s own set of problems but I imagine it would be fascinating place to start over.

38 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:18:42am
39 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:19:31am

NasaTV is choking on me… anybody got it?

40 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:19:58am

re: #39 freetoken

NasaTV is choking on me… anybody got it?

Click #38!

41 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:20:26am

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What’s shakin’ Lizards?!

My wife (the diabetic) bought a big ole chocolate bunny for me for Easter!

My wife (the diabetic) ate my big ole chocolate bunny last night in the middle of the night because (her sugar got low, and she tends to binge eat when her sugar gets low)…

(If she would have bought me a bowling ball, she would have drilled it to fit her fingers)

How are y’all?

Just trading late-night stories and waiting for a space-launch….

The usual shit.

42 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:20:27am

1:15

43 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:20:34am

re: #40 Gus 802

got the CNN feed…

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:20:40am

re: #21 ryannon

My first car was my dads 1963 Chevy pick up truck, three on the tree used three quarts of oil per day. A lovely primer red, too.

Amazing that I got laid in that truck… but I did.

45 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:21:40am

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My first car was my dads 1963 Chevy pick up truck, three on the tree used three quarts of oil per day. A lovely primer red, too.

Amazing that I got laid in that truck… but I did.

What’s amazing is that we’re still around to tell the tale….

46 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:21:59am

Go, go, go! I still love these.

47 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:27:21am

re: #13 barflytom

It is elitist to imply that the message of Tea Party protestors is inferior to Obama’s Ivy-league English…and just plain ludicriss.

/

48 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:28:33am

re: #33 ryannon

Also wanted to add that is something I always wanted to do. Or at least I thought it would happen on a domestic level by moving to San Francisco and later Denver. It never really happened for me. I never had the discipline and am the ultimate procrastinator. I before I finally fell into a permanent state of cynicism and fatalism regarding my life I had dreams of Europe (either Austria or France although French would be easier for me since I have a grasp on Spanish).

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:30:46am

re: #46 Gus 802

Go, go, go! I still love these.

Think I read yesterday that we have more chicks in space than any time in history. That’s pretty cool.

Chiiicks iiin Spaaace!

50 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:31:06am

Morning, all. Today is Pasquetta, Little Easter, in Italy. It’s sort of a National Goof-off Day and the beginning of the picnic season.

51 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:31:26am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Think I read yesterday that we have more chicks in space than any time in history. That’s pretty cool.

Chiiicks iiin Spaaace!

I think that was a movie.

/

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:32:58am

Donovan McNabb is a Redskin.

“Dogs and cats living together. MASS HYSTERIA!

53 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:33:29am

re: #46 Gus 802

I remember getting up early to watch the first shuttle launch. Plan was to meet with friends at a house for a party… I went in the wrong direction, but finally got to the right place just in time for the launch.

Is this the last Discovery launch? I am not sure of the details of this year’s finally.

54 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:37:17am

re: #48 Gus 802

Also wanted to add that is something I always wanted to do. Or at least I thought it would happen on a domestic level by moving to San Francisco and later Denver. It never really happened for me. I never had the discipline and am the ultimate procrastinator. I before I finally fell into a permanent state of cynicism and fatalism regarding my life I had dreams of Europe (either Austria or France although French would be easier for me since I have a grasp on Spanish).

Don’t be hard on yourself: we do what we have to do, and I’m not sure I would have found the strength or resources to take the road you took. As far as I’m concerned, it was less a conscious choice, as in “Ok, I’m going to trade in my old life for a new one” as much as a colossal series of trial-and-errors and blind luck, since half the time I couldn’t see where I was going or even why.

In retrospect, I’d say that the severity of the treatment was in line with the state of my soul - and that’s saying a lot for an anonymous forum. I could also say that it was the price to pay for where I wanted to get to, which is a somewhat less dramatic way of putting it, but just as true.

55 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:37:42am

re: #53 freetoken

I remember getting up early to watch the first shuttle launch. Plan was to meet with friends at a house for a party… I went in the wrong direction, but finally got to the right place just in time for the launch.

Is this the last Discovery launch? I am not sure of the details of this year’s finally.

Looks like final for Discovery will be STS-133.

The STS-133 crew members are Commander Steven Lindsey, Pilot Eric Boe and Mission Specialists Alvin Drew, Michael Barratt, Tim Kopra and Nicole Stott.

Discovery will deliver the Express Logistics Carrier 4 and critical spare components to the International Space Station. This will be the 134th and final shuttle flight and the 36th shuttle mission to the station.

STS-134 will actually be the 2nd to last shuttle mission.

56 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:43:28am

re: #55 Gus 802

Thanks.

So Discovery will have 1 more flight left, as well as the other remaining 2 shuttles.

Interesting that the wiki article mentions Beggs’ triskaidekaphobia. He may have been on to something.

If there are only 134 flights, then the first two digits are Begg’s magic number, while the last digit “4” is the East Asian number for bad luck.

Irony anybody?

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:46:59am

I’m sure this Butler coach guy gets carded if he buys beer.

58 Old Dragon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:47:36am

I remember standing in the schoolyard talking about the launch the night before of one early Sputniks with a little dog inside, Laika was her name I believe.

Seems like yesterday and a movie of someone else’s life simultaneously.

Enjoy Spring

Old Dragon

59 Achilles Tang  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:47:53am

Beautiful night launch seen from the west coast, with binoculars.

The boosters came off before hitting sunlight so all that could be seen were the yellow booster flames fading, but then Discovery came into daylight with an enormous expanding trail behind. A pencil thin line from the exhausts at a slightly different direction from the main cloud, much like a comet.

Sad I won’t see that again.

60 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:48:31am

re: #56 freetoken

Thanks.

So Discovery will have 1 more flight left, as well as the other remaining 2 shuttles.

Interesting that the wiki article mentions Beggs’ triskaidekaphobia. He may have been on to something.

If there are only 134 flights, then the first two digits are Begg’s magic number, while the last digit “4” is the East Asian number for bad luck.

Irony anybody?

Yeah, I don’t think there’s any way of getting around the first two digits of 13. Don’t know why they did that but it looks like they’ve gone out of sequence before.

61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:51:57am

re: #60 Gus 802

Even if they call it the 14th floor? Your are on the 13th floor of a building.

Just cause you name something something else, it does make it the something that you named it, it is still the something else…

Something like that.

62 Achilles Tang  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:52:23am

re: #56 freetoken

Thanks.

So Discovery will have 1 more flight left, as well as the other remaining 2 shuttles.

Interesting that the wiki article mentions Beggs’ triskaidekaphobia. He may have been on to something.

If there are only 134 flights, then the first two digits are Begg’s magic number, while the last digit “4” is the East Asian number for bad luck.

Irony anybody?

I would make a comment about reading meanings where there are none, but I won’t.

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:53:02am

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Even if they call it the 14th floor? Your are on the 13th floor of a building.

Just cause you name something something else, it does not make it the something that you named it, it is still the something else…

Something like that.


FTFM

64 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:54:41am

re: #61 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Even if they call it the 14th floor? Your are on the 13th floor of a building.

Just cause you name something something else, it does make it the something that you named it, it is still the something else…

Something like that.

Exactly. It’s just a number. They could change 2013 to 2012A and it would still be 2013. I never understood superstitions.

65 TheMatrix31  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:55:17am

re: #17 ryannon

LGF Graveyard Shift:

freetoken
goddamnedfrank
Obdicut
ozbloke
reine.de.tout
ryannon
WindUpBird

The times have changed indeed.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 3:59:50am

“A woman knows all about her children. She knows about dentist appointments and romances, best friends, favorite foods, secret fears and hopes and dreams.
A man is vaguely aware of some short people living in the house.”…

Just read that. There is some truth in that.

67 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:00:19am

re: #65 TheMatrix31

The times have changed indeed.

68 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:01:28am

Oil’s up! That’s actually good news.

69 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:04:02am

re: #56 freetoken

Thanks.

So Discovery will have 1 more flight left, as well as the other remaining 2 shuttles.

Interesting that the wiki article mentions Beggs’ triskaidekaphobia. He may have been on to something.

If there are only 134 flights, then the first two digits are Begg’s magic number, while the last digit “4” is the East Asian number for bad luck.

Irony anybody?

The Silla Hotel in Seoul had neither 4th nor 13th floors.

70 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:05:06am
71 TheMatrix31  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:06:45am

re: #67 Gus 802

LOL awesome.

73 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:07:25am

Lotsa’ food for me, not so much for thee.

Kim Jong-Il has hosted a dinner party for the new Chinese ambassador to North Korea, state media said Sunday, amid reports the reclusive leader was set to visit Beijing.

The dinner on Saturday was attended by top North Korean military and party officials, the country’s official Korean Central News Agency said. When Kim appeared with new Chinese ambassador Liu Hongcai, “all the participants warmly welcomed him with highest tribute”, it said. “They expressed the steadfast will of the parties and peoples of the two countries to further develop and consolidate generation after generation,” the agency said.


SNIP

74 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:07:47am

re: #72 Decatur Deb

To encourage the others.

Watch out, Timmy G!

75 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:08:23am

re: #72 Decatur Deb

To encourage the others.

Maybe one day we’ll wake up and find out they all executed each other. Then the next day North Korea announces that they’ve finally surrendered.

/

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:09:21am

re: #68 Gus 802

Oil’s up! That’s actually good news.

I guess if you don’t buy much gas…

77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:10:18am

re: #69 Decatur Deb

The Silla Hotel in Seoul had neither 4th nor 13th floors.

Yes it did. They just didn’t call them the 4th nor 13th floors.

78 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:11:00am

There has been a series of explosions in the north-west Pakistani city of Peshawar, close to the US consulate.

US officials confirmed that the consulate was the target of the attack.

Plumes of smoke were seen over the area and several buildings were said to have collapsed. Reports said a protracted gun battle followed the blasts.

A BBC correspondent in Islamabad says the scene is still chaotic and it is not known how many people have been killed or injured.

SNIP

79 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:11:01am

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I guess if you don’t buy much gas…

True. But the theory is that if it goes up that means they’re banking on the economy being better in the future. A flattening would be a better alternative. However, if it goes down that means they’re projecting bad times ahead. We’ll see what happens.

80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:12:48am

re: #79 Gus 802

I fill up my vehicle three to four times per week. 19 gallons per fill up. 25cent gas increase costs me a thousand dollars.

81 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:13:03am

re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes it did. They just didn’t call them the 4th nor 13th floors.

Yep. Just stand outside the building and count with one eye closed. “1, 2, 3, 4…well, it looks like your 5th floor is really the 4th floor.”

82 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:13:20am

re: #77 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes it did. They just didn’t call them the 4th nor 13th floors.

No elevator buttons. If you slept on 4 or 13 you could check out but you could never leave.

83 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:14:30am

A South Korean warship is rushing to the area where Somali pirates hijacked a South Korean oil tanker with 24 crew members aboard, the military said on Monday.

The 300,000-tonne Samho Dream was seized on Sunday, on its way from Iraq to the US state of Louisiana with a crew of five South Koreans and 19 Filipinos.

A South Korean destroyer, which was in the Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy operations, has been ordered to move to waters off Somalia, a Joint Chiefs of Staff spokesman said.

SNIP

84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:14:45am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

4 or 13 is the Hotel California.

85 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:15:17am

rollin… rollin… rollin…

we’re still a movin…

/nice little aftershock, that one…

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:15:57am

re: #85 freetoken

Dang! Still? Tell it to STOP!

87 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:16:01am

The map is beginning to look crowded:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

88 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:16:34am

re: #84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

4 or 13 is the Hotel California.

Nah. The Hotel California was a hotel in Vicenza IT used by the GIs on travel orders—they loved the name.

89 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:17:06am

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The earth does sleep.

90 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:17:16am

re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I fill up my vehicle three to four times per week. 19 gallons per fill up. 25cent gas increase costs me a thousand dollars.

I usually get around 5 bucks but that changed to 8 bucks over the years. Sometimes I’ll pull up and see something like $60 from the last person at the pump and think, “damn.”

I hear you though. It’s a gamble and it’s one sided from the oil speculators. In theory it means better economic futures. But at the same time people like you get hit. Another thing that gets hit almost immediately is food prices.

91 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:19:37am

re: #89 freetoken

The earth does sleep.

Fitfully, sometimes.

92 Decatur Deb  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:23:38am

Time for some PT. I’m thinking of rigging a laptop holder to the exercise bike. BBL

93 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:26:36am

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dang! Still? Tell it to STOP!

There have been over 250 quakes measured over 1.0 in the square region that I linked above, since the 7.2 yesterday afternoon!

94 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:27:33am

Add five more to that list:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

95 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:30:27am

Members of the far-Right AWB threatened vengeance after he was beaten to death in a dispute with two farm workers over unpaid wages.

Police said he was attacked to the head with a machete and a club in his bed at his farm outside Ventersdorp, North West province, on Saturday night.

Two men, aged 21 and 15, have been charged with murder and will appear in court on Tuesday.

Andre Visagie, the AWB’s secretary-general and a leading candidate to succeed Mr Terreblanche as head of the organisation, said the party was planning its response.

“The death of Mr Terreblanche is a declaration of war by the black community of South Africa to the white community that has been killed for ten years on end,” he said.

SNIP

96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:36:01am

re: #90 Gus 802

45 dollars per fill up.

97 RogueOne  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:39:40am

Morning all

98 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:42:04am

The Palestinian people will celebrate the Holy Fire vigil next year in Jerusalem, the “eternal capital” of the Palestinian state, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said Saturday night.

SNIP

He said the Palestinian Liberation Organization was the trusted body to declare a state, in coordination with the international community.

SNIP

Meanwhile, Hamas called on Fayyad to stand trial for telling Ha’aretz in remarks published at the weekend that he intends to declare a Palestinian state in the summer of 2011 and to build infrastructure to absorb Palestinian refugees into the state.

The group said that with his remarks, Fayyad had effectively given up on the ‘right of return’ to 1948 borders.

99 RogueOne  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:42:13am

Local Indy paper yesterday, found via Politico:

Orszag: [Link: www.indystar.com…]
Vs.
Mitch Daniels: [Link: www.indystar.com…]

Mitch beats him down and steals his lunch money.

100 Gus  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 4:42:15am

Fecking Cuba and the stupid Raul Castro. I admit, I thought there was hope but these idiots just can’t never stop being, well, idiots.

Castro: Cuba won’t ‘give in to blackmail’

Havana, Cuba (CNN) — Faced with international criticism over hunger-striking dissidents, President Raul Castro on Sunday said Cuba refused to give in to blackmail and accused the United States and Europe of launching “the most ferocious” media campaign against the island nation in decades.

“We will never give in to blackmail, from any country or group of countries, no matter how powerful,” he said in a nationally televised speech.

The United States and Europe have stepped up pressure on Cuba to release political prisoners and improve its human rights record.

Jailed dissident Orlando Zapata Tamayo died in February after a prolonged hunger strike. Guillermo Farinas, another government opponent, launched a hunger strike from his home shortly afterwards to demand the release of political prisoners.

In his speech to an annual meeting of the Union of Communist Youth on Sunday, Castro accused the United States and Europe of “hypocritically holding up the flag of human rights.”

He called both Zapata Tamayo and Farinas common criminals who were manipulated by foreign powers.

Cuba says there are no political prisoners on the communist island. They say dissidents are being paid by enemy governments to destabilize the country.

Farinas has been in the hospital in recent days, receiving food intravenously.

Seems like they did a good job of destabilizing their own country on their own. Even to the point of the former USSR ignoring them. After this I think I’ll put Cuba on “gaze mode.”

101 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:04:10am

Morning Lizards.

So one of the dogs started barking like crazy. I looked out the window where my chickens are ranging and thought ‘How did that chicken get so big…oh wait…?” Looks like a huge wild turkey has decided to visit and is hanging around with the flock. :D

102 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:14:57am

They were empty, you idiots.

Taliban armed with petrol bombs and rockets attacked a terminal in northwest Pakistan on Monday, torching eight tankers used to supply fuel to Nato forces in Afghanistan, officials said. Dozens of fighters launched the attack at Zakha Khel in the tribal district of Khyber before dawn, local administration chief Shafeerullah Wazir told AFP.

The tankers had recently returned from supplying Nato troops in Afghanistan, where around 126,000 foreign troops are trying to help the Western-backed government put down a nearly nine-year Taliban insurgency.

SNIP

103 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:16:54am

Why would one waste warm wonderful weekends whittling wet wood? Good Morning LGF.

104 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:21:45am

Sean Hannity’s charity, “Freedom Alliance”, down graded by 50% by charity watchdog group:[Link: www.charitynavigator.org…]

105 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:22:18am

This is so interesting to watch. The hens don’t seem to care about the turkey but the rooster isn’t too happy. He’s strutting like crazy and spreading his wings and crowing at it. The turkey is just ignoring it.

106 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:25:09am

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Michael Chabon’s book of essays, “Manhood For Amateurs”, has some great insights on fatherhood. Very good read.

107 rwdflynavy  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:25:49am

Ash: Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This… is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart’s top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That’s right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It’s got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That’s right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?

Old Woman: I’ll swallow your soul!
Ash: Come get some.

Share this quote
Ash: Lady, I’m afraid I’m gonna have to ask you to leave the store.
Possessed woman: Who the hell are you?
Ash: Name’s Ash.
[cocks rifle]
Ash: Housewares.

Ash: Good, Bad, I’m the guy with the gun.

Great overnight quote Charles!!!

108 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:28:08am
It’s a trick. Get an axe.

Here comes the Hammer!

109 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:34:52am

re: #102 MandyManners

Taliban turds torched tenantless tankers?

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:35:55am

Morning Honcos!!

111 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:36:34am

re: #109 Spare O’Lake

Taliban turds torched tenantless tankers?

How are you today, Mr. Alliteration?

112 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:36:52am

re: #109 Spare O’Lake

Taliban turds torched tenantless tankers?

Touchy, aren’t they?

113 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:37:35am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning Honcos!!

‘Sup?

114 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:40:04am

*Click*…. wait.
*Click*…. wait.

I hate internet lists presented as slideshows!

115 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:41:51am

Working ‘til mid evening has really messed up my sleep pattern. I’m not going to bed ‘til 2 and 3 AM. This is not good.

116 RogueOne  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:42:37am

David Shuster in trouble again with MSNBC:

[Link: www.mediabistro.com…]


MSNBC bad boy David Shuster may be on his third strike.

Shuster won’t be on the air today for his 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. shows, according to MSNBC insiders. Whether he returns before his contract expires in December is up for debate.

Shuster’s last appearance was at 10 a.m. Friday. MSNBC boss Phil Griffin pulled him from his 3 p.m. gig after learning, via The New York Observer, that the anchor had recently shot a pilot for CNN without having informed his bosses.

Griffin, vacationing in Florida, ripped Shuster a new one over the phone, network sources say. A repeat performance is expected today in the office.

117 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:43:49am

re: #111 MandyManners

How are you today, Mr. Alliteration?

Middlin’, my most magnetic Mandy.
You?

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:44:17am

re: #116 RogueOne

David Shuster in trouble again with MSNBC:

[Link: www.mediabistro.com…]

If no one watches, will anyone care?
/

119 keloyd  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:44:29am

CNN is making me feel all stabby. These medical activists are all moaning (and all agreeing with each other, no debate at all) about how we need to protect grown, able-bodied adults from prescription drugs. I don’t mean it’s just a bad idea to die like Michael Jackson, but that the government needs to be involved, overseeing everyone at all times, for our safety. Doctors cannot be trusted to prescribe meds for patients without some benevolent overseer, for our safety. Then they went on and on about all the 27 year old actors who are “victims”.

(Adjusting my best, foil lined Hamburg Libertarian hat) imho there’s no such thing as an able bodied 27 year old grown man who needs protection from the goverment. If some hollywood millionaire wants to kill himself slowly, that’s very sad, but not the government’s problem. “Freedom” means letting other adults be stupid.

120 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:45:03am
Griffin, vacationing in Florida, ripped Shuster a new one over the phone, network sources say. A repeat performance is expected today in the office.

Anyone selling tickets to this event? Will popcorn be available?

121 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:47:45am

re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar

Working ‘til mid evening has really messed up my sleep pattern. I’m not going to bed ‘til 2 and 3 AM. This is not good.

What’s mid-evening?

122 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:48:11am

re: #117 Spare O’Lake

Middlin’, my most magnetic Mandy.
You?

Finer than a frog’s hair split three ways.

123 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:48:57am

re: #121 MandyManners

What’s mid-evening?

‘til 10-10:30, home at 11ish.

124 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:49:01am

re: #119 keloyd

Then they went on and on about all the 27 year old actors who are “victims”.

Obviously the answer to this sad and sorry state is legislation banning all 27 year olds from being actors. If you are an actor at 25 or 27… well, just look at it as an enforced vacation.

//

125 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:49:09am

re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just to go back and forth to work (60+ mile round trip,,,sometimes as many as 6 days a week), I thought about gettingt one of these

Image: smart-car-1.jpg

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:49:32am

re: #119 keloyd

But, but, the gubment knows what’s best!!
//

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:50:51am

re: #125 sattv4u2

Just to go back and forth to work (60+ mile round trip,,,sometimes as many as 6 days a week), I thought about gettingt one of these

Image: smart-car-1.jpg

In Atlanta? With that traffic? I promise to come to your funeral.

128 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:50:58am

re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar

Working ‘til mid evening has really messed up my sleep pattern. I’m not going to bed ‘til 2 and 3 AM. This is not good.

How dya think I feel. I work from 10 p.m. till 10 a.m., Add an houd commute each way. That leaves 11 a.m. till 9 p.m. for sleep, family time and chores. I have NO idea when I’m supposed to sleep. I do know I never string a good 8 hours in a row

129 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:51:27am

Spring Break, Day 6: I’ve done more laundry since The Kid’s been out of school than I can shake a stick at. This morning I started three loads before the sun came up. bbiab

130 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:51:40am

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Atlanta? With that traffic? I promise to come to your funeral.

My commute isn’t bad. Never on 85/ 285/ 75, and never during rish hour

131 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:51:51am

re: #130 sattv4u2

My commute isn’t bad. Never on 85/ 285/ 75, and never during rish RUSH hour

132 RogueOne  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:52:20am

Off to work outdoors in the sun, enjoy the rest of your day folks.

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:52:26am

re: #128 sattv4u2

How dya think I feel. I work from 10 p.m. till 10 a.m., Add an houd commute each way. That leaves 11 a.m. till 9 p.m. for sleep, family time and chores. I have NO idea when I’m supposed to sleep. I do know I never string a good 8 hours in a row

If I get 6 I’m good. But I can’t sleep past 9 AM. Regardless of when I go to bed.:(

134 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:53:23am

re: #129 MandyManners

Spring Break, Day 6: I’ve done more laundry since The Kid’s been out of school than I can shake a stick at. This morning I started three loads before the sun came up. bbiab

Does the laundry care if you shake a stick at it or not? Do the whites come out whiter, the colors more vibrant? Is it easier than NOT shaking a stick at it? Does it take more time !?!?!

135 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:54:39am

Alright. Just got back from chasing this turkey off. This turkey ended up being evil and having an ulterior motive for it’s visit. It tried to steal my chickens.

136 abbyadams  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:54:48am

re: #7 JasonA

Behold, my BOOMSTICK!

137 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:55:08am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

If I get 6 I’m good. But I can’t sleep past 9 AM. Regardless of when I go to bed.:(

When I get home at 11, I usually lay down shortly after. I get 3-3 1/2 hours then. At 7 p.m. I go take my 1 1/2 hour power nap

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:55:47am

re: #135 Jadespring

Alright. Just got back from chasing this turkey off. This turkey ended up being evil and having an ulterior motive for it’s visit. It tried to steal my chickens.

Buy a BB gun. Will make it go away without actually hurting it.

139 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:56:30am

re: #135 Jadespring

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Buy a BB gun. Will make it go away without actually hurting it.


Buy a roasting pan and some cranberry sauce!

140 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 5:57:26am

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Atlanta? With that traffic? I promise to come to your funeral.

Had to drive to Birmingham, Alabama in the Mid 1980’s to see my Cardiologist. It was 12 degrees (in South Carolina!) the day we left… driving through Atlanta later that morning, we saw an entire sheet of ice peel off of a truck and crash onto a car behind it - scared the crap out of us. Neither the truck or the car slowed down or reacted in any way.

/What the hell was that? Dunno. Keep going.

141 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:01:30am

After one day of baseball, the Red Sox are in first place and the Yankees are in the cellar with the worst record in the majors (OK, nobody else has played yet — it still sounds good).

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:02:24am

re: #141 sattv4u2

After one day of baseball, the Red Sox are in first place and the Yankees are in the cellar with the worst record in the majors (OK, nobody else has played yet — it still sounds good).

Doesn’t matter. The Rays are gonna win it all.

143 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:04:07am

Ah well ,,,, gotta go shower and take my son to the orthodontist.

144 SteveC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:07:04am

re: #143 sattv4u2

Ah well ,,, gotta go shower and take my son to the orthodontist.

I bet if you asked him, he’d rather shower and let you go to the orthodontist!

145 jdog29  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:09:50am

Happy Cinco de April….. I’m a month early :-P

146 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:11:05am

Holy shit!! The super hot traffic girl from the local TV station just posted on FB that she is now single!! I still have no shot.:(

147 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:12:47am

re: #134 sattv4u2

Does the laundry care if you shake a stick at it or not? Do the whites come out whiter, the colors more vibrant? Is it easier than NOT shaking a stick at it? Does it take more time !?!?!

You got sumpin’ agin’ sticks?

148 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:13:32am

re: #135 Jadespring

Alright. Just got back from chasing this turkey off. This turkey ended up being evil and having an ulterior motive for it’s visit. It tried to steal my chickens.

Why?

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:14:26am

re: #148 MandyManners

Why?

Because chickens taste like, well, chicken.
/

150 sattv4u2  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:20:37am

re: #144 SteveC

I bet if you asked him, he’d rather shower and let you go to the orthodontist!

Him taking a shower costs me more than the ortho visit. At 15, he’d discovered the joys of a long Long LONG hot shower {smirk}

151 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:20:38am

A suicide attacker has killed at least two police officers in the Russian republic of Ingushetia, in the latest in a series of such bombings.

Shortly after the first attack, a car bomb was detonated in the same place in the town of Karabulak, officials said.

Forty were killed by a twin attack on Moscow’s Metro system last week, and another North Caucasus republic, Dagestan, has also been targeted.

The Kremlin blamed Islamists from the North Caucasus for the earlier attacks.

Russian media reports have published images of a woman they say carried out one of the attacks in Moscow, saying she was from Dagestan.

Police officials said the bombings in Ingushetia had targeted an interior ministry building.

A statement from investigators said the suicide attacker had detonated explosives as a car full of police officers was entering the compound at 0820 local time (0420 GMT).


SNIP

152 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:21:27am

re: #135 Jadespring

Alright. Just got back from chasing this turkey off. This turkey ended up being evil and having an ulterior motive for it’s visit. It tried to steal my chickens.

We had about 20-30 wild turkeys on our property when I was growing up. One summer when I was still in college, I was working at the local apiary and got home to find the turkeys up by the house…one of them eating the dog’s food from his bowl (the dog, a Golden, was sleeping). I grabbed a shotgun, went out into the yard, and shot that little bastard (he weighed about 6-8 lbs. Then I cleaned him, seasoned him, and threw him in the oven.

A few hours later, my parents got home, smelled food cooking, and said, “Oh, you’re making dinner!” It was quite tasty, too….even if it was out of season.
At one point during dinner, my mom said, “Where did you get this turkey?”
I said, “In our yard.”
She said, “You shot one of my turkeys!” (she considered them her pets)
I said, “Yeah, he was eating my dog’s food!” Dad laughed, mom not so much.

Good morning, everyone.

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:22:36am

re: #152 darthstar

Excellent!!!

154 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:22:51am

re: #141 sattv4u2

After one day of baseball, the Red Sox are in first place and the Yankees are in the cellar with the worst record in the majors (OK, nobody else has played yet — it still sounds good).

Heh…I was thinking that last night. Well said.

155 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:22:52am

re: #148 MandyManners

Why?

I dunno why. Maybe it’s part of wild turkey farm animal liberation force. (funded by Peta).

Seriously though. I stopped watching them for a bit and the next thing I knew when I looked was that the turkey was wandering off into the bush and half the chickens were following it.

I wish I had video taped it. The whole thing was pretty funny.

156 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:24:36am

re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy shit!! The super hot traffic girl from the local TV station just posted on FB that she is now single!! I still have no shot.:(

Email her a dinner invitation and your lizardoid karma!

157 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:25:34am

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

Excellent!!!

My oldest brother and I did this kind of thing often. Turkeys, geese, deer, whatever. The joys of growing up in a rural area.

158 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:26:13am

Meanwhile in Waziristan, ..

A stepped-up campaign of American drone strikes over the past three months has battered Al Qaeda and its Pakistani and Afghan brethren in the tribal area of North Waziristan, according to a mid-ranking militant and supporters of the government there.

The strikes have cast a pall of fear over an area that was once a free zone for Al Qaeda and the Taliban, forcing militants to abandon satellite phones and large gatherings in favor of communicating by courier and moving stealthily in small groups, they said.

The drones, operated by the C.I.A., fly overhead sometimes four at a time, emitting a beelike hum virtually 24 hours a day, observing and tracking targets, then unleashing missiles on their quarry, they said.

The strikes have sharpened tensions between the local tribesmen and the militants, who have dumped bodies with signs accusing the victims of being American spies in Miram Shah, the main town in North Waziristan, they said.

The impact of the drone strikes on the militants’ operations — on freedom of movement, ability to communicate and the ease of importing new recruits to replace those who have been killed — has been difficult to divine because North Waziristan, at the nether reaches of the tribal area, is virtually sealed from the outside world.

SNIP

159 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:26:47am

re: #155 Jadespring

It was just getting an offering for the local foxes.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:27:04am

re: #156 The Sanity Inspector

Email her a dinner invitation and your lizardoid karma!

Ya know what? I thought about it. After being out of work for so long (but working now) I kinda have nothing to lose. And weirder things have happened. I did leave her a comment, though.

161 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:27:41am

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Atlanta? With that traffic? I promise to come to your funeral.

There are still signs in Atlanta where I-285 is still labeled as “Atlanta Bypass”

162 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:27:55am

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because chickens taste like, well, chicken.
/

Turkeys are omnivores?

163 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:28:42am

re: #155 Jadespring

I dunno why. Maybe it’s part of wild turkey farm animal liberation force. (funded by Peta).

Seriously though. I stopped watching them for a bit and the next thing I knew when I looked was that the turkey was wandering off into the bush and half the chickens were following it.

I wish I had video taped it. The whole thing was pretty funny.

Suicidal chickens?

164 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:29:38am

re: #162 MandyManners

Turkeys are omnivores?

I hate labels. Maybe they are just hungry.
//

165 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:34:42am

rollin… rollin… rollin…

it’s never stoppen…

166 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:35:05am

re: #159 darthstar

It was just getting an offering for the local foxes.

Or maybe all the coyotes around here. I can just see it now. A secret meeting in the light of the full moon with the head coyote and the head turkey discussing a compromise, “Okay, you bring us chickens to eat and we will agree to leave you and yours alone.”

167 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:40:44am

Ugh…shit like this always pisses me off. 17 miles off course? Don’t you idiots have GPS?

A Chinese-registered ship that ran aground Saturday off the coast of Australia was more than 17 miles off course when it ended up on a shoal in the Great Barrier Reef, prompting concerns of an oil spill near the world’s largest coral reef system, a maritime safety spokesman said Monday.

168 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:40:52am

Apple Inc., trying to revive demand for tablet-style computers with its iPad, said it sold more than 300,000 of the devices on the first day of their debut weekend.

The number includes preorders, sales at Apple stores and deliveries to channel partners, the company said in a statement today. Users downloaded more than 1 million iPad applications from Apple’s site and bought more than 250,000 electronic books from its online store during the first day.

The product builds on the success of Apple’s iPhone and iPod, staking out the middle ground between smartphones and laptop computers. Apple is betting the design is enticing enough that consumers are willing to pay a premium over low-cost notebooks. Rivals such as Microsoft Corp. have failed to turn tablet computers into popular consumer devices.

SNIP

169 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:41:51am

re: #165 freetoken

rollin… rollin… rollin…

it’s never stoppen…

rawhide!

170 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:42:27am

re: #169 darthstar

rawhide!

I was thinkin’ Limp Bizcit.

171 Political Atheist  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:44:21am

re: #165 freetoken

Nothing up here…

172 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:47:16am

re: #170 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was thinkin’ Limp Bizcit.

Sounds like a personal problem.

173 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:47:27am

Claire Smedley almost killed her lover during sex — with her enormous breasts.

In an exclusive video interview, she revealed how Steven usually loved being smothered by her breasts.

“This time, he started flailing around a bit, but I assumed it was because he was so excited, so I kept going,” she said.

“A few minutes later I noticed he’d stopped moving.”

By then, sales assistant Steven, also 27, was still and appeared to not be breathing.

174 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:48:38am

re: #169 darthstar

re: #171 Rightwingconspirator

… r… a… w… h… i… d… e…

Another 5.0 aftershock rolled through. The map is overfilled:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

175 Political Atheist  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:51:10am

re: #174 freetoken

Not a scientific opinion-It will seem strange if the NW track of activity does not wind up including LA in the next week or so. But there is nearly no activity on the LA Basin fault structure.

176 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:53:15am

re: #174 freetoken

re: #171 Rightwingconspirator

… r… a… w… h… i… d… e…

Another 5.0 aftershock rolled through. The map is overfilled:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

Wow…I hadn’t looked at the map since last night…you’ve been rollin’ indeed.

177 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:54:17am

re: #175 Rightwingconspirator

The USGS hasn’t made a statement yet, but I expect there wasn’t as much horizontal slippage as vertical.

When the Salton Sea floor opens up and the water spirals down the drain… then, then you’ll know you Angelinos are toast.

178 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:56:39am

re: #173 MandyManners

In an exclusive video interview, she revealed how Steven usually loved being smothered by her breasts.

I’m watching the movie Bollywood/Hollywood on Netflix, and your article’s statement reminds me of a scene in there.

179 keloyd  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:57:00am

re: #151 MandyManners

I’m a bit dubious about whether “Islamist” is the right word for what’s going on here. Both sides routinely target the civilian population. Also, the Chechens seem “Muslim” to the degree that the Russian military or Putin seem “Christian”, i.e. not much. The only moral or tactical difference is that one side has more power, more capital, and more options. One side kills civilians with tanks; the other has angry, desperate, widows who feel they have nothing to lose.

During WW2, in the event of a German occupation of Britain, even Churchill had made plans for the British public to be issued grenades and make strategic use of “voluntary death”. The motto for the campaign they never had to carry out, with typical dry English wit - “you can always take one with you.”

180 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:57:10am
181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:57:56am

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

Useless without pictures.

How was the date?

182 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:58:44am

Arms exports to Venezuela may reach as much as $5 billion, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Monday according to Russian news agencies, a few day after he traveled to the country.

Putin visited Venezuela late last week to meet with President Hugo Chavez and pledged to sell more weapons to the country but gave no concrete figures.

“Our delegation has just returned from Venezuela, and the total volume of orders may exceed $5 billion,” Putin was quoted by the RIA Novosti news agency as saying on Monday.

Russia on Friday agreed to lend Venezuela up to $2.2 billion for the new arms deals.

Hugo Chavez’s government has already bought more than $4 billion in Russian weapons since 2005, including helicopters, fighter jets and 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles.

SNIP

183 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:59:12am

re: #178 freetoken

I’m watching the movie Bollywood/Hollywood on Netflix, and your article’s statement reminds me of a scene in there.

Oh, really? Do tell.

*cocks eyebrow*

184 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:59:22am

re: #177 freetoken

Either that or Lex Luthor has been *real* busy.

185 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:59:29am

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hi, Mad. You have a very strong fan club on LGF!

186 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 6:59:57am

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

How was the date?

That didn’t take long!

Kind of meh. We got along well, but I don’t know, I just wasn’t feeling it. It was one of those first dates where I could tell there probably wouldn’t be more. No complaints though. It was a good confidence boost to actually have a woman want to go out with me.

187 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:01:22am

re: #185 prairiefire

Hi, Mad. You have a very strong fan club on LGF!

Thanks. I wish the fan club was at my gig on Saturday. Pretty small audience (I think because of Easter), but we still had a good time.

188 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:02:28am

re: #179 keloyd

I’m a bit dubious about whether “Islamist” is the right word for what’s going on here. Both sides routinely target the civilian population. Also, the Chechens seem “Muslim” to the degree that the Russian military or Putin seem “Christian”, i.e. not much. The only moral or tactical difference is that one side has more power, more capital, and more options. One side kills civilians with tanks; the other has angry, desperate, widows who feel they have nothing to lose.

During WW2, in the event of a German occupation of Britain, even Churchill had made plans for the British public to be issued grenades and make strategic use of “voluntary death”. The motto for the campaign they never had to carry out, with typical dry English wit - “you can always take one with you.”

I’d never heard that about Churchill.

189 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:02:43am

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

Useless without pictures.

It’s a family paper.

190 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:03:13am

It’s here!

191 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:03:31am

re: #179 keloyd

The Chechen Islamists are just as into the jihad as their coreligionists elsewhere in the world. The younger of the two female suicide bombers whose identity was released a couple of days ago belies the point that this was a woman who became radicalized only after her husband was killed by the Russians.

She was busy getting her photo taken with her husband posing with guns at the ready. She was already radicalized long before her husband was killed by the Russians from what I have seen about her situation.

192 Macha  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:04:07am

re: #157 darthstar

My oldest brother and I did this kind of thing often. Turkeys, geese, deer, whatever. The joys of growing up in a rural area.

Good morning all,

We called out of season deer Mountain Salmon where I grew up.

193 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:05:22am

re: #192 Macha

Good morning all,

We called out of season deer Mountain Salmon where I grew up.

I’m gonna guess you’re not a member of PETA.
/

194 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:05:46am

re: #191 lawhawk

However, a lot of Chechen fighters are not very Islamist at all.

The strife and unrest is certainly great breeding ground for Islamic radicalism. Nobody knows how to foment resistance like the Russians do.

195 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:07:15am

re: #182 MandyManners

That’s $5billion dollars the US defense industry doesn’t get to make.

196 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:13:55am

Good morning, folks.

I loved “Army of Darkness”. Heck, I love just about all of Sam Raimi’s films. I even got a nice chuckle out of “Drag Me to Hell”, which wasn’t a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, but it was just “Sam Raimi” enough to keep me entertained.

197 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:15:54am

re: #196 MrSilverDragon

I read a book about film making and it had a chapter on Sam Raimi. Pretty cool.

198 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:16:44am

re: #196 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, folks.

I loved “Army of Darkness”. Heck, I love just about all of Sam Raimi’s films. I even got a nice chuckle out of “Drag Me to Hell”, which wasn’t a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, but it was just “Sam Raimi” enough to keep me entertained.

I rather liked Drag Me to Hell. It certainly wasn’t Oscar worthy by any stretch of the imagination, but for a campy horror flick I think it was spot on. Great gross-out scenes when the girl is getting attacked by the crazy gypsy lady, and a quality ending as well. Sure it’s no Evil Dead, but then again what is?

199 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:17:03am

Heh…a childish prank, but funny all the same.

Image: img104.jpg

200 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:17:56am

re: #195 darthstar

That’s $5billion dollars the US defense industry doesn’t get to make.

It’s ok, we all know that the Government has never created a job. That would just be $2 billion dollars of failed stimulus.

201 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:19:42am

An unexpected ending to the usual depressing set-piece. Over 100 miners rescued after being trapped for a week in a flooded Chinese mine. A nice change of pace from the usual narrative, from the Land Of Disposable Labor.

202 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:25:45am

re: #200 drcordell

It’s ok, we all know that the Government has never created a job. That would just be $2 billion dollars of failed stimulus.

The gubment should open a factory and make shirts. And everyone could wear the shirts.
Then open a factory and make shoes. And everyone could wear the shoes.
Then open a factory making pants and everyone….

203 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:26:28am

re: #194 Obdicut

However, a lot of Chechen fighters are not very Islamist at all.

The strife and unrest is certainly great breeding ground for Islamic radicalism. Nobody knows how to foment resistance like the Russians do.

Do you have a link for that assertion?

204 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:28:22am

re: #195 darthstar

That’s $5billion dollars the US defense industry doesn’t get to make.

Considering the previous $4,000,000,000.00 Chavez spent on Russian arms, make that $9,000,000,000.00.

But, that’s not the point. We wouldn’t sell arms to Chavez.

205 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:30:43am

re: #198 drcordell

I rather liked Drag Me to Hell. It certainly wasn’t Oscar worthy by any stretch of the imagination, but for a campy horror flick I think it was spot on. Great gross-out scenes when the girl is getting attacked by the crazy gypsy lady, and a quality ending as well. Sure it’s no Evil Dead, but then again what is?

I practically fell out of my chair laughing when the goat talked. That, and the “return of the cat” scene. Hilarious!

206 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:30:45am

re: #204 MandyManners

But, that’s not the point. We wouldn’t sell arms to Chavez.

That was exactly my point.

207 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:31:28am

re: #200 drcordell

It’s ok, we all know that the Government has never created a job. That would just be $2 billion dollars of failed stimulus.

Are the companies from which Chavez is buying the arms private or public?

208 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:31:44am

re: #205 MrSilverDragon

I practically fell out of my chair laughing when the goat talked. That, and the “return of the cat” scene. Hilarious!

I love the “Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head” scene in Spiderman 2. What other director would put a scene like that in an action movie?

209 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:32:12am

I think everyone just needs to chill… relax… and go to Philly (can’t believe I just wrote that)… /

A policy change by prosecutors and judges will eliminate criminal prosecution of persons caught with small amounts of marijuana, according to a report on Philly.Com.

The report said the city’s new district attorney and the state Supreme Court are making the change to try to alleviate a backlog of cases in the city’s court system. Persons found to be in possession of a about an ounce or less of marijuana will pay a fine but not be given a criminal record.

210 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:32:49am

re: #206 darthstar

That was exactly my point.

Are you suggesting that we should sell them to Chavez? To a fucking Commie dictator who’s hell-bent on sowing mayhem in his region?

211 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:33:02am

re: #207 MandyManners

Are the companies from which Chavez is buying the arms private or public?

I have no idea, private I would assume. My point was simply that the types of people who breathlessly rant against the stimulus package are often the first to attack any cuts in defense spending, as if they’re any different fundamentally.

212 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:34:05am

re: #204 MandyManners

Considering the previous $4,000,000,000.00 Chavez spent on Russian arms, make that $9,000,000,000.00.

But, that’s not the point. We wouldn’t sell arms to Chavez.

More political interference with the free market system. I blame this on Obama the commie.

//s

213 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:34:11am

re: #211 drcordell

I have no idea, private I would assume. My point was simply that the types of people who breathlessly rant against the stimulus package are often the first to attack any cuts in defense spending, as if they’re any different fundamentally.

Who’s defense spending? Ours or Chavez’s? I’m not getting your point.

214 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:35:40am

re: #203 MandyManners

I’m using “Islamist” in the modern meaning of “Wanting a government based on Islam”.

I think the rejection of Umarov’s claim to an Emirate by so many Chechen politicians and military leaders, who want to see a return of th Republic, demonstrates that very well.

And even Umarov rejects Wahabism.

However, I expect the influence of the Islamic Radicals to grow there as the conflict continues, since it’s something that breeds well in dark and bloody places.

215 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:35:41am

re: #212 garhighway

More political interference with the free market system. I blame this on Obama the commie.

//s

I don’t think you understand. Putin has sold military hardware worth $9,000,000,000.00 to Chavez. He’s also loaned them $2,000,000,000.00 to buy arms.

216 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:35:49am

re: #209 lawhawk

I think everyone just needs to chill… relax… and go to Philly (can’t believe I just wrote that)… /

Well, unfortunately alot of those laws aren’t as clear cut as they seem. New York State has effectively decriminalized small amounts of marijuana as well. The problem is, you’re completely at the whim of the arresting officer and the local DA. My girlfriend’s sister was busted with like, half a gram of bud in her glovebox in rural NY last year. Should have just been a quick ticket and fine, no big deal. Except the local authorities saw it fit to arrest her and charge her with a more serious possession offense. So she was forced to pony up $1,500 for a lawyer to attend her arraignment etc.

217 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:35:55am

re: #210 MandyManners

Are you suggesting that we should sell them to Chavez? To a fucking Commie dictator who’s hell-bent on sowing mayhem in his region?

No, dear…I was simply being ironic. Of course we won’t sell weapons to Chavez…now.

218 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:36:10am
Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This… is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart’s top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That’s right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It’s got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That’s right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?
219 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:36:13am

re: #213 MandyManners

Who’s defense spending? Ours or Chavez’s? I’m not getting your point.

Our defense spending.

220 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:36:21am

re: #214 Obdicut

I’m using “Islamist” in the modern meaning of “Wanting a government based on Islam”.

I think the rejection of Umarov’s claim to an Emirate by so many Chechen politicians and military leaders, who want to see a return of th Republic, demonstrates that very well.

And even Umarov rejects Wahabism.

However, I expect the influence of the Islamic Radicals to grow there as the conflict continues, since it’s something that breeds well in dark and bloody places.

Do you have a link backing up that claim?

221 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:36:55am

re: #217 darthstar

No, dear…I was simply being ironic. Of course we won’t sell weapons to Chavez…now.

Have we ever sold weapons to him? Link?

222 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:37:31am

re: #219 drcordell

Our defense spending.

We don’t sell weapons to fucking Commie dictators.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:38:05am

re: #218 Varek Raith

When you bought it did you next ask where the Prozac isle was?
/

224 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:38:57am

re: #222 MandyManners

We don’t sell weapons to fucking Commie dictators.

Dictators, yes.

Commie dictators, no.

225 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:40:25am

re: #220 MandyManners

Sure.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

[Link: www.rferl.org…]

He’s an Islamist, or thinks that he can gain more power by pretending to be one, and he’s an Israel-hater, but not a Wahabist.

And, like I said, a lot of other Chechen leaders rejected him when he declared the Emirate, and want the Republic back.

226 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:40:58am

re: #222 MandyManners

We don’t sell weapons to fucking Commie dictators.

No, just right-wing dictators, Islamic fundamentalists and insurgent groups.

227 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:43:29am

re: #221 MandyManners

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

Looks like we banned it in 2006. So we did, most likely, sell before then.

He wasn’t so dictatorial before then, though. But well on his way.

228 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:44:51am

re: #225 Obdicut

Sure.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

[Link: www.rferl.org…]

He’s an Islamist, or thinks that he can gain more power by pretending to be one, and he’s an Israel-hater, but not a Wahabist.

And, like I said, a lot of other Chechen leaders rejected him when he declared the Emirate, and want the Republic back.

Thanks to the Russians, it’s been a long, long time.

Except for the Islamists, I feel for the Chechens and Ingush.

BTW, one need not be a Wahibist in order to blow shit up.

229 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:45:17am

Just gonna’ drop the rope before I rip a few new ones.

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:45:46am

re: #227 Obdicut

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

Looks like we banned it in 2006. So we did, most likely, sell before then.

He wasn’t so dictatorial before then, though. But well on his way.

But Chavez is a good guy!! Danny Glover said so!!
///

231 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:45:55am

re: #229 MandyManners

Just gonna’ drop the rope before I rip a few new ones.

in bed?

232 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:47:49am

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

But Chavez is a good guy!! Danny Glover said so!!
///

We certainly like him enough to keep buying as much oil as we can from him.

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:49:16am

re: #232 drcordell

We certainly like him enough to keep buying as much oil as we can from him.

I don’t.

234 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:50:08am

re: #228 MandyManners

I know, Mandy. I was just pointing out that the most important Islamist leader there isn’t a Wahabist, and was himself rejected by many Chechen separatist leaders for declaring the Emirate.

That being said, Islamic Radical support will grow in the region, and Russia will use it as an excuse for horrible things. And the civilians in the region will suffer, no matter what they do.

235 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:50:31am

re: #232 drcordell

Meh, oil is fungible, it makes no difference if you buy directly or not.

236 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:52:09am

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t.

But somebody is importing Chavez’s oil into the U.S. and paying for it. Doesn’t really matter whether or not you directly buy Citgo gasoline.

237 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:53:47am

re: #209 lawhawk

I think everyone just needs to chill… relax… and go to Philly (can’t believe I just wrote that)… /

Legalize it, tax it and move on.

238 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:54:10am

re: #236 drcordell

But somebody is importing Chavez’s oil into the U.S. and paying for it. Doesn’t really matter whether or not you directly buy Citgo gasoline.

IIRC, stations on the Florida Turnpike had/has Citco. At the end of the contract, the state won’t renew. And 7-11 down here stopped operations with them.

239 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:56:01am

re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, stations on the Florida Turnpike had/has Citco. At the end of the contract, the state won’t renew. And 7-11 down here stopped operations with them.

Right. But at the end of the day they are still in business in the USA. And I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Venezuelan crude oil made its way into the U.S. oil supply in ways other than Citgo gasoline.

240 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:56:09am

re: #222 MandyManners

We don’t sell weapons to fucking Commie dictators.

AND AREN’T YOU GLAD WE DON’T SELL WEAPONS TO FUCKING COMMIE DICTATORS NOW!!!??

241 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:57:27am

re: #237 ryannon

Legalize it, tax it and move on.

California is going to have its chance coming up in 2010. Even if they manage to legalize through the ballot box, I can’t imagine the Roberts court will have any problem striking that law down immediately. He’s probably already salivating at the thought.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 7:58:49am

re: #241 drcordell

California is going to have its chance coming up in 2010. Even if they manage to legalize through the ballot box, I can’t imagine the Roberts court will have any problem striking that law down immediately. He’s probably already salivating at the thought.

Kinda like the 9th Circuit court slaps down the will of the people?

243 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:00:25am

Crap. Gotta run. BBL.

244 avanti  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:01:10am

The Fox Financial channel was just hyping a survey that shows 46% of TV weathermen and women are global warming skeptics. I guess if that local hot weather gal is a skeptic, that should settle it. BTW, the revaluation came in a interview from a guy from a group called “CO2 is green” who thinks the more CO2 the better.


CO2 is green.

245 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:05:30am

re: #244 avanti

The Fox Financial channel was just hyping a survey that shows 46% of TV weathermen and women are global warming skeptics. I guess if that local hot weather gal is a skeptic, that should settle it. BTW, the revaluation came in a interview from a guy from a group called “CO2 is green” who thinks the more CO2 the better.

CO2 is green.

100% of TV weathermen and woman also got their jobs based on how attractive they are. My father has been a local TV news director for going on 30 years now, and I practically grew up in a TV newsroom. And let me just say, I can count on one hand the number of anchors I’ve met that weren’t self-loving blowhard douchebags.

They really do think reading the TelePrompTer is God’s work. They really do take themselves entirely too seriously. And no, they don’t realize that they are reading the news on TV because of what their face looks like and not the grey matter behind it.

246 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:06:17am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kinda like the 9th Circuit court slaps down the will of the people?

Not really sure what you’re referring to?

247 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:06:29am

“Islam is a religion of knowledge,” the cleric told a television audience. “Unfortunately, some people attempt to use Islam — the religion of knowledge, goodness, and development — wrongly or for their own selfish ends.”

It’s a message that might not appear extraordinary — the virtues and peaceful nature of Islam have long been espoused — until you consider the source. As imam-khatib at Tashkent’s Kukeldash Mosque, Anvar Qori Tursunov enjoys the backing of the Uzbek authorities, making it apparent that his words address not only Islamic adversaries, but perceived enemies of the state itself.

In the ideological vacuum left by the demise of communism, religion reentered the scene in Central Asia. And with officially sanctioned Islam pitted against outside interpretations that authorities do not want to take root, the region’s regimes have deployed clerics like Tursunov in an ongoing battle for influence.

Central Asia’s Islamic history dates back more than a millennium, but for most of the 20th century, the region was part of the Soviet Union, cut off from the rest of the Islamic world. With the fall of the USSR, the newly independent states of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan quickly re-embraced their Islamic heritage.

Islamic groups saw fertile recruiting ground in the region, with its 50 million primarily Sunni Muslims. Since making their entrance to the region, they have posed an immense challenge to clerics like Tursunov in thousands of officially registered mosques.

Zeyno Baran, a senior fellow and director for the Center for Eurasian Policy at the Hudson Institute in Washington D.C., says that the governments of Central Asia were unprepared for the arrival of widely divergent religious groups from outside the region.

“Central Asia was perfect ground and many of the governments in Central Asia at the time, including Uzbekistan, did not understand that not all Islamic groups are the same,” Baran says.” They did not know and they did not understand that some of them are radical, some of them have political ideologies.”

Over time, the states of Central Asia tried to strengthen the voice of their official interpretations of Islam by silencing the outsiders. Hizb-ut Tahrir from the Middle East, Tablighi Jama’at from Pakistan, Salafiya from the Arab world, and Nurchilar from Turkey were banned, among other groups.

SNIP

248 cliffster  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:06:31am

mornin’, jokers

249 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:07:28am

And the Gazans are at it again - another kassam attack against Israel, but no casualties reported.

250 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:08:13am

re: #249 lawhawk

And the Gazans are at it again - another kassam attack against Israel, but no casualties reported.

But they’re just harmless pipe bombs!!!!

/

251 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:08:26am

re: #248 cliffster

mornin’, jokers

I’m not a joker… I’m a smoker and a midnight toker, though.

Well, I was…

252 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:08:39am

Gazan terrorists looking to unify their tactics and operations against Israel.

The Palestinian factions of the Gaza Strip met on Sunday night to discuss prospects for inter Palestinian reconciliation, as well as a possible truce with Israel, Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported on Monday morning.

According to the Arab publication, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and the Democratic Front all participated in the meeting. Representatives of the West Bank-based Fatah movement had been set to attend, but reportedly issued a last-minute cancellation.

Al-Sharq Al-Awsat quoted Hamas spokesman Ayman Taha as saying the meeting constituted the “first fruits” of a series of inter-Palestinian talks to resolve the situation in the Gaza Strip and lead to the removal of the blockade and “Israeli aggression.” He also reportedly urged the international community to take a stand against Israel’s “threats” and “policies against” the Palestinians.

253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:08:48am

re: #245 drcordell

Oh Looouuu…

254 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:13:10am

Many of the Arab Christians flocking to holy sites in Israel this Easter Sunday come from neighboring Jordan.

Those who make the trek – and, as part of a broader rise in religious tourism, more are making it every year – risk their professional reputation and their family’s disapproval.

For a country whose 1994 peace treaty with Israel was never accepted at the popular level, receiving an entry stamp, let alone a visa from Israel, is considered “treason” to the Arab cause.

But despite a growing movement to discredit those involved with the “Zionist enemy,” hundreds of Jordanians risk their careers and reputation to complete a pilgrimage to holy sites in Israel’s occupied territories.

SNIP

Anti-Normalization activists are determined to crack down on the practice this holiday to bring to light those who have “normalized with the enemy,” according to Muslim Brotherhood and National Anti- Normalization Committee leader Hamzah Mansour.

“This is supporting Zionist efforts to rid the holy lands and Palestine of its inhabitants, and it is forbidden,” he said.

SNIP

255 cliffster  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:13:18am

Here’s a good one if you’re a Toyota fan..

A Deep Dive into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats

Several things are striking. First, the age distribution really is extremely skewed. The overwhelming majority are over 55. Here’s what else you notice: a slight majority of the incidents involved someone either parking, pulling out of a parking space, in stop and go traffic, at a light or stop sign.. in other words, probably starting up from a complete stop.

256 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:14:27am

re: #255 cliffster

Here’s a good one if you’re a Toyota fan..

A Deep Dive into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats

Hmmm, interesting…

257 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:15:02am

re: #252 lawhawk

Gazan terrorists looking to unify their tactics and operations against Israel.

You were right.

258 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:15:39am

Happy Monday Everyone! I hope you all had a nice Easter? Hey Freetoken, you sill rollin out there?

259 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:18:12am

re: #255 cliffster

Here’s a good one if you’re a Toyota fan..

A Deep Dive into Toyota Sudden Acceleration Accident Stats

Sounds about right. I never believed that it was possible for these cars to be so out of control that mashing the brakes full-force and shifting into neutral couldn’t stop them. Looks like it was just gomes mashing the wrong pedal. Poor Toyota.

260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:18:14am

re: #255 cliffster

I went on record over a month ago that this was hooey.

261 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:19:47am

The 12-year-old schoolgirl handcuffed and arrested in February for doodling on her desk plans to sue the city.

A lawyer for Alexa Gonzalez and her mother officially notified the city that they’ll seek $1 million in damages for the alarming incident inside Junior High School 190 in Queens.

The legal papers describe Alexa’s ordeal as an excessive use of force and a violation of her rights. “We want to stop this from happening to other young children in the future,” said the family’s lawyer, Joseph Rosenthal.

Using an erasable lime-green marker, Alexa scribbled the message “I love my friends Abby and Faith,” Alexa’s mom, Moraima Camacho, told the Daily News in February. “The whole situation has been a nightmare.”

SNIP

She was “physically dragged by a teacher and an assistant principal” to the dean’s office, the legal papers claim.

School safety officers searched her by placing “their hands inside the rear and front pockets of her jeans.”

Despite the fact that officers “knew, or should have known that it was a soluable, erasable marker,” police officers were summoned to arrest her, the papers note.

Alexa was perp-walked out of the school in front of her classmates with her hands locked in metal handcuffs behind her back.

Alexa’s mother pleaded with the officers to accompany her daughter to the police precinct, but Camacho was told to go home and wait for a call.

Officers placed Alexa in “an enclosed room” at the precinct and handcuffed her to a pole for more than two hours, the papers note.

SNIP

262 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:20:24am

re: #257 MandyManners

I know, I shouldn’t get cocky, but this was something being telegraphed for years - the terrorists play the triangle offense better than Phil Jackson could ever dream with the Bulls and Michael Jordan.

263 cliffster  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:21:40am

re: #261 MandyManners

that’s fucked up

264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:22:24am

re: #261 MandyManners

Ten year old got tasered.

WTF?

265 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:22:59am

Declaring an impasse in negotiations between the commission and the department, Commission Chairman Gerald A. Reynolds said the Justice Department has “repeatedly refused” to provide any basic information regarding the case, instead asserting “vague and generalized privileges” that do not apply.

BO cut Bill Richardson loose too, when the investigation into his pay to play scheme got too hot….playing politics with federal law Chicago style

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com…]

266 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:23:25am

Police were questioning five people today after a teenager was stabbed to death on her way to a party.

Aliza Mirza, 18, died on Saturday night after being found collapsed with wounds in a street in Manor Park, East London. She had been knifed in the neck.

Last night police arrested her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend and his 45-year-old father on suspicion of murder. The boyfriend’s mother, 41, and 20-year-old sister were also held on suspicion of assisting an offender along with another man, aged 42.

SNIP

267 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:24:07am

re: #261 MandyManners

Teacher, principles and cops think that all kids are terrorists in the making these days. Mark up your desk and go to jail, oh yeah like that will do anything besides traumatize the poor kid! Yet they let the nasty ones get away with bullying the weaker one till they either commit suicide or go ballistic and shoot up the school. Typical bureaucratic thinking.//

268 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:24:12am

re: #262 lawhawk

I know, I shouldn’t get cocky, but this was something being telegraphed for years - the terrorists play the triangle offense better than Phil Jackson could ever dream with the Bulls and Michael Jordan.

Do you really think the Gazan terrorists will agree on this?

269 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:24:28am

re: #263 cliffster

that’s fucked up

I’d be asking for more than a million.

270 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:25:22am

re: #269 MandyManners

I’d be asking for more than a million.

And where exactly is that money going to come from?

271 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:25:48am

re: #270 drcordell

And where exactly is that money going to come from?

from the printing presses

272 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:25:53am

re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ten year old got tasered.

WTF?

Didn’t someone post that story here last week?

273 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:26:17am

re: #271 albusteve

from the printing presses

AKA my wallet as a NYC resident and taxpayer…

274 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:26:53am

re: #267 Dragon_Lady

Teacher, principles and cops think that all kids are terrorists in the making these days. Mark up your desk and go to jail, oh yeah like that will do anything besides traumatize the poor kid! Yet they let the nasty ones get away with bullying the weaker one till they either commit suicide or go ballistic and shoot up the school. Typical bureaucratic thinking.//

I simply cannot imagine cuffing a child behind her back.

275 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:27:19am

re: #272 MandyManners

There was a story kind of like that in PDX last year. 12 year old girl got knocked down by police and repeatedly shot by beanbag guns while on the ground.

276 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:27:52am

re: #274 MandyManners

I simply cannot imagine cuffing a child behind her back.

I would certainly be upset if that were my kid, and rightfully so. But a million dollars? Coming from the taxpayers? Really?

277 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:28:31am

re: #274 MandyManners

These kind of things really happen when you get police in an adversarial mindset with the community they’re serving.

278 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:28:51am

re: #277 windsagio

‘even the women and children are Viet Cong’

279 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:29:01am

re: #271 albusteve

from the printing presses

School districts don’t get to do that.

280 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:29:31am

Tort reform! Wait, what?

281 freetoken  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:29:38am

re: #244 avanti

CO2isgreen is a notorious front group for some energy (coal) companies. We’ve touched on them here before, and they pop up every now and again.

282 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:29:43am

re: #280 Varek Raith

Tort reform! Wait, what?

Hahahahahaha

283 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:29:51am

re: #273 drcordell

AKA my wallet as a NYC resident and taxpayer…

yep, that’s the way it works…and when your state goes broke the feds will give you a line of credit so that the kid cops can stay in business….sweet deal

284 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:30:00am

re: #274 MandyManners

I simply cannot imagine cuffing a child behind her back.

Me neither, if you’ve ever had a friend get arrested those cops aren’t exactly gentle about how they tighten them either. We had a friend whose hands went to sleep due to lack of blood circulation and he had nerve damage. Those cops are real jerks for cuffing such a young child, and the the principle should be fired for calling them! The poor things going to need counseling for a long time to come!

285 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:30:53am

re: #284 Dragon_Lady

Me neither, if you’ve ever had a friend get arrested those cops aren’t exactly gentle about how they tighten them either. We had a friend whose hands went to sleep due to lack of blood circulation and he had nerve damage. Those cops are real jerks for cuffing such a young child, and the the principle should be fired for calling them! The poor things going to need counseling for a long time to come!

I’m sure she’ll be fine. Besides, a healthy mistrust for authority does a child good!

286 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:30:55am

re: #268 MandyManners

Hamas and Islamic Jihad likely will. Al Qaeda’s spinoffs wont - because any accommodation with Israel will be seen as giving in to the Zionists and not tolerated.

Hamas and Fatah (and the AAMB) aren’t likely to agree anytime soon, but they still engage in the triangle offense because one gets to play the victim and demand compensation (usually Fatah), while Hamas gets to fire up the Gazans with attacks and restricting aid to the Gazans.

287 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:31:07am

re: #283 albusteve

yep, that’s the way it works…and when your state goes broke the feds will give you a line of credit so that the kid cops can stay in business…sweet deal

Sorry, I forgot that “the feds” were the root of all evil.

Remarkable how a story about an NYC cop and an NYC school ends up being about them.

In your head.

288 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:31:48am

re: #284 Dragon_Lady

Me neither, if you’ve ever had a friend get arrested those cops aren’t exactly gentle about how they tighten them either. We had a friend whose hands went to sleep due to lack of blood circulation and he had nerve damage. Those cops are real jerks for cuffing such a young child, and the the principle should be fired for calling them! The poor things going to need counseling for a long time to come!

Nerved damage?! Egads.

289 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:32:16am

Damn this nice weather!
Stupid allergies.

290 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:32:42am

re: #286 lawhawk

Its a conspiracy!

291 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:32:47am

re: #287 garhighway

Sorry, I forgot that “the feds” were the root of all evil.

Remarkable how a story about an NYC cop and an NYC school ends up being about them.

In your head.

it’s where all the money eventually comes from….and to put words in my mouth makes you look either stupid or just antagonistic

292 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:33:41am

re: #285 drcordell

I’m sure she’ll be fine. Besides, a healthy mistrust FEAR for authority does a child good!

That still doesn’t excuse the treatment the child got, detention and a call to her parents are about the only thing this kind of transgression deserves. I’d be screaming blue murder if the school did that to my kid! You don’t touch my kid! Thats MY job, not the school and not the police!

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:34:34am

re: #272 MandyManners

Not that I am aware. Heard on the radio waves…

294 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:34:46am

re: #292 Dragon_Lady

I think you need to tune your sarcasm sensor >>

295 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:35:11am

re: #292 Dragon_Lady

That still doesn’t excuse the treatment the child got, detention and a call to her parents are about the only thing this kind of transgression deserves. I’d be screaming blue murder if the school did that to my kid! You don’t touch my kid! Thats MY job, not the school and not the police!

You should have your children become corporations. That way you can be sure all of their Constitutional rights will be protected.

296 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:35:17am

re: #294 windsagio

I think you need to tune your sarcasm sensor >>

OR, people could use the sarc tag.

297 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:35:32am

re: #291 albusteve

I’m curious, does anybody offhand know of cases of the Feds actually bailing out states? Only thing I can think of is NY in the ’70s and I thought the Federal Gov’t specifically refused to help them.

298 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:36:04am

re: #296 reine.de.tout

Can’t stand the things personally, but sure :)

299 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:36:10am

re: #291 albusteve

it’s where all the money eventually comes from…and to put words in my mouth makes you look either stupid or just antagonistic

That’s NOT where all of the NYC school’s money comes from , or NYC’s money. Not even close.

But I know the story appeals to you much more if there is a Federal angle, right? After all, I am not making up your “I hate the Feds” meme, am I? You have used those exact words in post after post.

300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:37:20am
301 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:37:35am

Although Benedict has not been accused of any crime, senior British lawyers are now examining whether the pope should have immunity as a head of state or whether he could be prosecuted under the principle of universal jurisdiction for an alleged systematic cover-up of sexual abuses by priests.

can this get more lurid?….is the Pope the Don of an international crime ring?….the Popefather?

302 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:37:46am

re: #297 windsagio

I’m curious, does anybody offhand know of cases of the Feds actually bailing out states? Only thing I can think of is NY in the ’70s and I thought the Federal Gov’t specifically refused to help them.

They send a fair amount of money to state and local governments (about a third of the stimulus bill was just that, to allow states to get through the recession with fewer layoffs/reductions in services), but I can never recall an outright bailout.

We save those for banks.

303 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:38:34am

re: #297 windsagio

The recent ARRA of 2009 was essentially a 1-year bailout of dozens of states, since it gave billions to states to help close deficits, but that was only a 1-year fix and most states maintained (or increased) their spending, even as revenues continued falling, meaning that they are facing an even worse situation this fiscal year (fy 2010-2011). States like NY played games to shift spending in to 2010-2011, and have even higher deficits and no easy fix in sight, even as spending remains higher than last year. NJ saw state public workforce grow over the past decade, while the private sector shrank or remain stagnant, meaning that the tax burden got proportionally worse.

304 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:38:45am

re: #286 lawhawk

Hamas and Islamic Jihad likely will. Al Qaeda’s spinoffs wont - because any accommodation with Israel will be seen as giving in to the Zionists and not tolerated.

Hamas and Fatah (and the AAMB) aren’t likely to agree anytime soon, but they still engage in the triangle offense because one gets to play the victim and demand compensation (usually Fatah), while Hamas gets to fire up the Gazans with attacks and restricting aid to the Gazans.

I’ve a link above to a story about Fayyad looking forward to the Holy Fire Vigil in Jerusalem in 2011.

“Our people, joined by all humanity, will celebrate the creation of the Palestinian independent state according to 1967 borders, a state whose capital shall be Jerusalem.”

SNIP

Meanwhile, Hamas called on Fayyad to stand trial for telling Ha’aretz in remarks published at the weekend that he intends to declare a Palestinian state in the summer of 2011 and to build infrastructure to absorb Palestinian refugees into the state.

The group said that with his remarks, Fayyad had effectively given up on the ‘right of return’ to 1948 borders.

SNIP

“His hands are soiled with the suffering of thousands of martyrs in the West Bank.”

SNIP

I bet the Jordyptians in Gaza would love to live on the West Bank.

305 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:38:56am

re: #288 MandyManners

Nerved damage?! Egads.

Yeah, to this day he has severe tingling and radiating pain in his hands and arms. I think he got a nice settlement but that doesn’t undo the damage.re: #294 windsagio

I think you need to tune your sarcasm sensor >>

It’s kinda hard to tune something that’s so remote, I know that typing is a cold medium and hard to convey emotions but if I don’t see a sarc tag how the heck am I supposed to know he’s being sarcastic? I’m psychiatric not psychic! ;)

306 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:39:11am

re: #293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not that I am aware. Heard on the radio waves…

I recall reading it here.

307 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:39:45am

re: #299 garhighway

That’s NOT where all of the NYC school’s money comes from , or NYC’s money. Not even close.

But I know the story appeals to you much more if there is a Federal angle, right? After all, I am not making up your “I hate the Feds” meme, am I? You have used those exact words in post after post.

it’s too early to fuck around with you

308 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:40:47am

re: #302 garhighway

re: #303 lawhawk

Man I totally forgot about that >>

So yes, but not in the sense of bailing out a failing bank.

Thanks :D

309 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:41:20am

re: #305 Dragon_Lady

It’s kinda hard to tune something that’s so remote, I know that typing is a cold medium and hard to convey emotions but if I don’t see a sarc tag how the heck am I supposed to know he’s being sarcastic? I’m psychiatric not psychic! ;)

Good to see he got his pound of flesh.

310 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:41:36am

re: #307 albusteve

it’s too early to fuck around with you

In bed.

311 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:42:21am

re: #305 Dragon_Lady

I guess it comes from spending too much time on here; I knew from past context that he’d never actually mean what he typed :D

312 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:43:43am

re: #311 windsagio

also, exclamation points used that way generally denote sarcasm.

/did I mention I probably spend too much time on the internet?

313 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:44:11am

The red-bordered triangular sign shows a scantily-clad woman, who is also carrying a handbag, in the city of Treviso in northern Italy.

The sign states ‘Attenzione Prostitute’ - seemingly warning people of prostitutes in the area.

SNIP

One local Dino Vezino, 34, said: “I was driving in to work and saw this sign and had to slow down to get a proper look.

“I couldn’t believe it - the woman has a mini-skirt and high heels on and very big breasts.

“I just couldn’t work out what it was for?

“Does it mean I have to look out for prostitutes crossing or that they are available around here?”

314 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:44:39am

re: #311 windsagio

I guess it comes from spending too much time on here; I knew from past context that he’d never actually mean what he typed :D

No worries my dear, I knew what you meant. :-)

315 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:46:20am

Crazy Pam endorses another White Supremacist (I’m detecting a pattern)….
Genocide of White South Africans

Eugene Terreblanche, leader of the Afrikaner Resistance Movement (AWB), was found brutally and savagely bludgeoned to death at his farm in South Africa’s North West province. A 21-year-old man and a 15-year-old boy have been arrested and charged with his murder.

Every single headline calls Terreblanche a “white supremacist,” alluding to his position in the waning days of the apartheid government, thirty-odd years ago. But the real story here is not that Terreblanche was a “white supremacist” — if he really was (and I know how the left loves to throw around those labels). Whether he was or not, the man was brutally murdered, and I had to go through ten newspaper accounts to find out how he was murdered. The liberal media had to dehumanize him first. And not one newspaper account speaks of Black supremacism — yet that is the really important story in South Africa today. All I see in South Africa is Black supremacism. Terreblanche may have been a white supremacist, but he’s the dead one.

The white genocide is heating up in South Africa

316 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:49:45am

re: #315 Killgore Trout

Those poor poor White Christians, they’re always the victim of so much persecution and supression!

317 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:49:58am

Sacre bleu - work conditions at Disneyland Paris are purportedly causing suicides among workers there.

At the happiest place on Earth? Really?

“It’s all about profit, profit, profit,” Guy-Bruno Mboe, leader of a Disneyland union, told the Times of London.

He claimed the suicide of a 37-year-old restaurant manager at Disneyland was the result of working conditions at the theme park.

“The combination of fewer staff and demands for more productivity just pushed this poor man over the edge,” he said.

He had wanted to quit, Mboe told the London newspaper, “because of having to work more and more with less and less means.”

The father of four allegedly hanged himself the day he was supposed to return to work, after having taken several days off.

Two other workers reportedly committed suicide earlier this year.

318 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:50:31am

Mexico’s war on the drug trade is futile even if cartel bosses are caught or killed as millions of people are involved in the illicit business, a senior drug chief said in an interview published on Sunday.
“Millions of people are wrapped up in the narco problem. How can they be overcome? For all the bosses jailed, dead or extradited their replacements are already there.”

I believe this guy….the cartels go all the way to the very top, including govt and the wealthiest Mexican citizens…thank goodness we have an open border to relieve the upcoming refugee problem

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

319 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:50:59am

re: #302 garhighway

And the carmakers like GM and Chrysler.

320 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:51:01am

re: #317 lawhawk

Alot of people think Disney is one of the most evil media companies we have >>

321 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:51:11am

re: #318 albusteve

Mexico’s war on the drug trade is futile even if cartel bosses are caught or killed as millions of people are involved in the illicit business, a senior drug chief said in an interview published on Sunday.
“Millions of people are wrapped up in the narco problem. How can they be overcome? For all the bosses jailed, dead or extradited their replacements are already there.”

I believe this guy…the cartels go all the way to the very top, including govt and the wealthiest Mexican citizens…thank goodness we have an open border to relieve the upcoming refugee problem

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

Yes, because when Mexico’s entire country collapses a border fence is SURE to keep the ensuing tidal-wave of refugees held back.

322 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:51:42am

re: #312 windsagio

also, exclamation points used that way generally denote sarcasm.

/did I mention I probably spend too much time on the internet?

why don’t you write a posting manual for us?

323 garhighway  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:51:59am

re: #319 lawhawk

And the carmakers like GM and Chrysler.

At least they actually MAKE something. All Citi makes is my 401(k) smaller.

324 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:01am

re: #316 windsagio

She’s really embracing her racist tendencies these days.

325 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:17am

re: #318 albusteve

With Mexico we really have an uncloseable border, unless we use minefields or something.

326 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:51am

re: #315 Killgore Trout

Oh, good grief. AWB was all about white-rule yet she doesn’t think that that made them white supremacists? Which dictionary does she use?

As for having to go through 10 papers to find out how he was killed (a machete and a club to his head while he slept), I found it pretty quickly this morning in the Telegraph. Does she not know how to Google?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

327 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:52am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

She’s really embracing her racist tendencies these days.

Indeed.

328 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:57am

re: #322 albusteve

I thought it would be pretentious, but if you really think its a good idea I’ll get cracking!

329 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:52:59am

re: #325 windsagio

With Mexico we really have an uncloseable border, unless we use minefields or something.

The magical border fence will keep everyone out!

330 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:53:24am

re: #321 drcordell

Yes, because when Mexico’s entire country collapses a border fence is SURE to keep the ensuing tidal-wave of refugees held back.

it won’t, it will funnel them into areas where they can be more easily dealt with….I’ve explained all that to you already, but you don’t like barriers

331 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:54:25am

re: #317 lawhawk

Sacre bleu - work conditions at Disneyland Paris are purportedly causing suicides among workers there.

At the happiest place on Earth? Really?

In America, people without jobs become despondent. In Europe, people WITH jobs become despondent. Let’s be more like them …. not.

332 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:54:47am

re: #330 albusteve

In all seriousness, this drug violence isn’t a reason to ‘try’ to close the border (not that there may not be reasons, this simply isn’t it). American officials are plenty prone to corruption too, and its a huge waste of resources that could be used in better ways.

333 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:55:52am

re: #331 _RememberTonyC

In America, people without jobs become despondent. In Europe, people WITH jobs become despondent. Let’s be more like them … not.

Image: yougottado.png

334 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:56:03am

re: #331 _RememberTonyC

Well again, Disney is freakin’ evil.

I’m pretty certain the Bavarian public servant with his 4 day week and 2 months paid vacation (or whatever :p) is probably pretty happy in general!

335 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:56:13am

re: #330 albusteve

it won’t, it will funnel them into areas where they can be more easily dealt with…I’ve explained all that to you already, but you don’t like barriers

I don’t like wasting billions of dollars of my tax dollars on a fucking pipe dream endorsed by the Minutemen Militia. You simply cannot fence off a 1,969 mile long border. It. Doesn’t. Work.

336 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:57:39am

According to Deirdre Barrett, a clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, our lingering primal urges have helped give rise to the obesity epidemic, social isolation, poor risk-assessment tendencies and sex addiction, among countless other things. All because our biology hasn’t caught up to the way we live.

Read more: [Link: www.calgaryherald.com…]

apes in a Brooks Brothers suit

337 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:57:47am

Hey Steve, if you don’t mind me asking…

The border thing made me think about it, and then I remembered you’re in NM.

Whats the general opinion around you of Joe Arpaio?

338 rwdflynavy  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:57:50am

re: #195 darthstar

That’s $5billion dollars the US defense industry doesn’t get to make.

Not to worry, we’ll spend 3 times that to buy weapons to take Chavez down a peg in a few years.
//

339 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:58:02am

re: #13 barflytom

Just staggered home from the bar, where one of the local lefties made a fine job of missing the point when I mentioned something about the “Teabonics” thread from earlier today. I hadn’t realised how racist it is to suggest that ebonics is somehow inferior to the Queen’s English.

Perhaps your first mistake was to assume the average bar patron was as well equipped for political discussion as the Lizards?

340 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:58:29am

re: #335 drcordell

I don’t like wasting billions of dollars of my tax dollars on a fucking pipe dream endorsed by the Minutemen Militia. You simply cannot fence off a 1,969 mile long border. It. Doesn’t. Work.

When did we have a vote and decide we can’t defend our border? Or did our betters decide that on our behalf?

341 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:58:32am

re: #334 windsagio

Well again, Disney is freakin’ evil.

I’m pretty certain the Bavarian public servant with his 4 day week and 2 months paid vacation (or whatever :p) is probably pretty happy in general!

I can agree with that! My niece worked for them over the last summer in one of their apprentice programs and when she came back she had to go into therapy! My Lord they mess with those kids heads!

342 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:59:03am

re: #335 drcordell

I don’t like wasting billions of dollars of my tax dollars on a fucking pipe dream endorsed by the Minutemen Militia. You simply cannot fence off a 1,969 mile long border. It. Doesn’t. Work.

I never once said to fence off the entire border….you are getting carried away, why are you so unhappy?…unhappy people make stuff up

343 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 8:59:03am
344 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:03am

re: #334 windsagio

Well again, Disney is freakin’ evil.

I’m pretty certain the Bavarian public servant with his 4 day week and 2 months paid vacation (or whatever :p) is probably pretty happy in general!

that makes my point! when life is so cushy that any inconvenience becomes a catastrophe, count me out. These guys may not be equipped to handle really tough times because they never had to experience them.

345 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:04am

re: #343 Mad Al-Jaffee

Another labor story from Fwance:

‘We’re going to blow the plant up’: French workers prime 5,000-litre gas tank to explode in row over redundancy pay

Uhh…yeah, sure, go for it future Darwin Award winners!
Idiots.

346 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:07am

re: #339 DaddyG

In fairness they have a point… Its a legitimate dialect.

Of course, they’re humorless slugs to miss out on the brilliance of the ‘teabonics’ slur.

Even I’ll admit that lefties can be damn pedantic.

347 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:24am

A wave of Germans traveling to training camps for militant jihadists has alarmed security officials back in Europe. The recruits are quickly becoming radicalized and, in some cases, entire families are departing to hotbeds for terrorism. It is even believed that colonies catering to German Islamists have taken shape in the border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

SNIP

German intelligence agencies presume that Jan and Alexandra are now living in the Afghan-Pakistani border region. It is a world in which al-Qaida and the Taliban are strong and the state is weak, where conflicts are resolved according to the rules of the sharia and local chieftains. This is also allegedly the last refuge, at least for the time being, of Osama bin Laden.

In this remote mountain region, a colony of Germans has sprung up — expats who have severed all roots and found a new homeland in the Hindu Kush. Germany’s Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) maintains a list of suspects who have taken off to Afghanistan or Pakistan — or at least tried to leave — over the past few years. The list has nearly 100 names. It’s a directory of the third generation of Islamist terrorists after the 9/11 suicide pilots and Germany’s so-called “Sauerland Cell”. Like their predecessors, they are eager to fight the holy war and die a martyr’s death. Intelligence agencies are now wondering who among this generation will become the next Mohammed Atta or the next Fritz Gelowicz, the ring leader of the Sauerland Cell — or who will emulate former Bosch employee Cüneyt Ciftci, who hailed from the quiet southern German town of Ansbach and carried out a suicide bombing in Afghanistan in March 2008, blowing himself to pieces and killing four people.

SNIP

348 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:27am

re: #343 Mad Al-Jaffee

Aah french unions. They so crazy!

349 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:00:43am

re: #331 _RememberTonyC

In America, people without jobs become despondent. In Europe, people WITH jobs become despondent. Let’s be more like them … not.

I remember (back when I could afford to take my kids to Disney World) while waking down Main Street USA I commented to my wife. “If there is any justice in the eternities I will spend 100 years sweeping the streets here while millions of little kids who died in infancy in the third world will get to visit and enjoy what we are experiencing now. In fact I would enjoy the priveledge f watching their faces light up.”

350 cliffster  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:01:14am

“Don’t take it personally this April if your lord and savior’s return is less anticipated than that of Tiger Woods” (from some-ecards)

351 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:01:28am

re: #347 MandyManners

That is utterly, insanely Weird.

352 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:03:12am

re: #351 windsagio

That is utterly, insanely Weird.

You humans sure are fucked up!
;)

353 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:03:12am

re: #336 albusteve

According to Deirdre Barrett, a clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, our lingering primal urges have helped give rise to the obesity epidemic, social isolation, poor risk-assessment tendencies and sex addiction, among countless other things. All because our biology hasn’t caught up to the way we live.

Read more: [Link: www.calgaryherald.com…]

apes in a Brooks Brothers suit

My monkey prefers Wal*Mart.

354 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:04:01am

re: #351 windsagio

I mean seriously, I often end up acting as a defender of Islam on here, but I have no idea what a relatively prosperous native European would see desirable about that faith, and particularly that brand of it.

355 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:04:19am

re: #353 MandyManners

My monkey prefers Wal*Mart.

nice Jack Blacks

356 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:04:52am

re: #346 windsagio

In fairness they have a point… Its a legitimate dialect.

Of course, they’re humorless slugs to miss out on the brilliance of the ‘teabonics’ slur.

Even I’ll admit that lefties can be damn pedantic.

Ebonics is a legitimate dialect? According to whom?

357 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:05:30am

re: #351 windsagio

That is utterly, insanely Weird.

And, scarey.

358 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:05:32am

re: #354 windsagio

I mean seriously, I often end up acting as a defender of Islam on here, but I have no idea what a relatively prosperous native European would see desirable about that faith, and particularly that brand of it.


I am disturbingly suspicious that the common thread is the Jews.

359 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:05:50am

re: #358 DaddyG

I am disturbingly suspicious that the common thread is the Jews.

Ding!

360 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:06:47am

re: #356 MandyManners

Ebonics is a legitimate dialect? According to whom?

In the south we have Bubbonics. Jeff Foxworthy often references the dialect in his humor.

361 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:06:49am

re: #340 The Sanity Inspector

When did we have a vote and decide we can’t defend our border? Or did our betters decide that on our behalf?

Stop putting words in my mouth. Being opposed to a futile border fence does not mean “I don’t want to protect our border.” It means I don’t want to waste billions of dollars building a fence that won’t be effective anyway. Not that I think we should just give up border enforcement.

362 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:06:50am

re: #329 drcordell

The magical border fence will keep everyone out!

Believe it or not, based on the experience of almost every other nation in the world, it really is quite possible to have a controlled border.

363 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:06:55am

re: #355 albusteve

nice Jack Blacks

I doubt the clutch is from Judity Leiber, though.

364 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:07:12am

re: #356 MandyManners

Actual linguists :p In those terms saying its ‘real’ doesn’t have the value judgment that we tend to assign to the idea otherwise.

Note: In my personal opinion, anybody in their right mind will learn the mainstream dialect, because you’re just not gonna succeed speaking that way.

365 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:08:06am

re: #354 windsagio

I mean seriously, I often end up acting as a defender of Islam on here, but I have no idea what a relatively prosperous native European would see desirable about that faith, and particularly that brand of it.

How much have you actually studied Islam?

366 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:08:12am

re: #364 windsagio

Actual linguists :p In those terms saying its ‘real’ doesn’t have the value judgment that we tend to assign to the idea otherwise.

Note: In my personal opinion, anybody in their right mind will learn the mainstream dialect, because you’re just not gonna succeed speaking that way.

Ya got that there right. I tell you what.

367 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:03am

re: #360 DaddyG

People get really odd ideas about lingual purity and dialects.

Specifically, they think the language should largely stay as it was formalized by the dictionaries back in the 19th and 20th centuries. The truth is language is always changing, and dialects are a reflection of that.

On the other hand, they’re also rapidly fading due to the rise of mass-media.

368 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:06am

re: #358 DaddyG

I am disturbingly suspicious that the common thread is the Jews.

How does that explain other Europeans who’ve gone? Americans? The 36 ex-cons who’ve disappeared into Pakistan?

369 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:19am

re: #354 windsagio

I mean seriously, I often end up acting as a defender of Islam on here, but I have no idea what a relatively prosperous native European would see desirable about that faith, and particularly that brand of it.

A similar desire that certain very right wing conservatives see in the militia groups… doing the will of god, saving mankind from falling into moral depravity… sounds familiar?

370 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:24am

re: #360 DaddyG

In the south we have Bubbonics. Jeff Foxworthy often references the dialect in his humor.

Fixin’ ta’.

371 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:38am

re: #365 MandyManners

A fair deal actually. Do we really wanna get on this line of discussion?

I’m agreeing with you on this case, and if we start on this it usually ends in broken vases >>

372 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:09:56am

Here’s how predictable the president’s slippery relationship with the truth has become: Hours before the State of the Union address, Washington Examiner reporter Timothy P. Carney posted a “pre-emptive fact check” that, among other things, prebutted any presidential claim to have “stopped the revolving door between government and corporate lobbying.” As it happened, that night Barack Obama made an even bolder (read: less truthful) claim: that “we’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.”
In fact, more than 40 former lobbyists work in the administration, including such policy makers as Deputy Defense Secretary William J. Lynn (who was lobbying for Raytheon as recently as 2008), Office of the First Lady Director of Policy and Projects Jocelyn Frye (National Partnership for Women and Families), White House Director of Intergovernmental Affairs Cecilia Muñoz (National Council of La Raza), and Treasury Secretary Chief of Staff Mark Patterson (Goldman Sachs).

maybe BO misunderdoublespoke himself on this one

[Link: reason.com…]

373 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:10:02am

re: #369 Walter L. Newton

Point!

374 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:10:15am

re: #364 windsagio

Actual linguists :p In those terms saying its ‘real’ doesn’t have the value judgment that we tend to assign to the idea otherwise.

Note: In my personal opinion, anybody in their right mind will learn the mainstream dialect, because you’re just not gonna succeed speaking that way.

I don’t consider standard English to be a dialect.

375 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:10:19am

re: #362 Spare O’Lake

Believe it or not, based on the experience of almost every other nation in the world, it really is quite possible to have a controlled border.

Is that so? Go ahead and explain that one to me. Name me another nation that has a +- 2,000 mile border that it has successfully sealed off. East Germany couldn’t even seal their border effectively. And that had two walls replete with barbed wire and machine gun nests. North Korea can’t effectively seal their border with China or South Korea. And they have the world’s largest minefield.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Even nations with borders that are less than a fraction of the size of the U.S. struggle to seal off their borders. Forget about anything approaching the size and ruggedness of the U.S. - Mexico border.

376 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:10:56am

re: #362 Spare O’Lake

Believe it or not, based on the experience of almost every other nation in the world, it really is quite possible to have a controlled border.

Oh come on… you mean before the formation of the EU, all those European countries were able to keep citizens from other countries from just dancing right into anyplace they wanted… no?

377 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:11:12am

re: #369 Walter L. Newton

A similar desire that certain very right wing conservatives see in the militia groups… doing the will of god, saving mankind from falling into moral depravity… sounds familiar?

How many very right wing conservatives strap bombs to themselves or their buddies’ widows to blow up civilians?

378 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:11:14am

re: #374 MandyManners

It is tho’.

Let me ask you this: American English and British English are 2 very different dialects. Which one should be standard?

379 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:11:41am

Ah, dear me. One sign of Spring is upon me. Gotta’ go kill a wasp. bbiab

380 Donna Ballard  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:11:53am

Well folks, I have housework to get to. I hope you all have a great day and Keep Laughing! :-)

381 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:12:37am

re: #379 MandyManners

Ah, dear me. One sign of Spring is upon me. Gotta’ go kill a wasp. bbiab

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

382 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:12:41am

re: #375 drcordell

Is that so? Go ahead and explain that one to me. Name me another nation that has a +- 2,000 mile border that it has successfully sealed off. East Germany couldn’t even seal their border effectively. And that had two walls replete with barbed wire and machine gun nests. North Korea can’t effectively seal their border with China or South Korea. And they have the world’s largest minefield.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Even nations with borders that are less than a fraction of the size of the U.S. struggle to seal off their borders. Forget about anything approaching the size and ruggedness of the U.S. - Mexico border.

simple…those are repressive regimes containing their own populace

383 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:12:46am

re: #377 MandyManners

How many very right wing conservatives strap bombs to themselves or their buddies’ widows to blow up civilians?

Timothy McVeigh? He didn’t blow himself up, but he killed plenty of women and children.

384 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:12:51am

re: #379 MandyManners

Ah, dear me. One sign of Spring is upon me. Gotta’ go kill a wasp. bbiab

One word.

AMRAAM.


;)

385 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:13:10am

re: #382 albusteve

simple…those are repressive regimes containing their own populace

As for an example of another nation successfully sealing off a 2,000 mile border?

386 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:13:26am

re: #375 drcordell

The border between North and South Korea is effectively closed and I can’t recall the last time that anyone successfully crossed the DMZ heading to the South. It’s far easier for those North Koreans seeking refuge elsewhere to cross into China, but it’s anything but a sure thing. They routinely round up those making the attempt and send them to the gulag archipelago; China regularly sends the back and refuses to grant them refugee status.

387 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:13:48am

re: #376 Walter L. Newton

I might add, the US-Mexico border (and also the US-Canada border) are huge, and have these crazy empty areas.

388 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:14:09am

re: #385 drcordell

Inner Mongolia!


No wait!

389 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:14:48am

re: #375 drcordell

Is that so? Go ahead and explain that one to me. Name me another nation that has a +- 2,000 mile border that it has successfully sealed off. East Germany couldn’t even seal their border effectively. And that had two walls replete with barbed wire and machine gun nests. North Korea can’t effectively seal their border with China or South Korea. And they have the world’s largest minefield.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Even nations with borders that are less than a fraction of the size of the U.S. struggle to seal off their borders. Forget about anything approaching the size and ruggedness of the U.S. - Mexico border.

Are you insane?

390 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:15:03am

re: #386 lawhawk

Largest minefield in the world. I guess we could mine the border, but Hollywood wouldn’t like it!

(more to the point its a much smaller area they’re closing off)

391 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:15:16am

Morning all! In thinking about our borders, I decided to give Robert Frost a call to get his opinion on whether we should build a wall, or maybe a fence. Here’s what he told me:

“Well subsailor, something there is that doesn’t love a wall. But, on the other hand, good fences make good neighbors.”

(I think he may have been drunk when I called.)

;-)

392 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:15:49am

re: #317 lawhawk

Sacre bleu - work conditions at Disneyland Paris are purportedly causing suicides among workers there.

At the happiest place on Earth? Really?

Many, many other work-related suicides in France these days.

[Link: blogs.desmoinesregister.com…]

Not to mention prison suicides - the highest rate in Europe:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

It’s the People’s Paradise here.

393 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:15:56am

re: #385 drcordell

As for an example of another nation successfully sealing off a 2,000 mile border?

nothing ventured, nothing gained you couch potato…go to the border, look around…something tells me from your awkward defiance you know little of the geography of the southwest…if you do, you are simply naive

394 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:16:32am

re: #374 MandyManners

I don’t consider standard English to be a dialect.

Standard American Midwestern English, or standard Trans-Atlantic English?

395 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:16:40am

re: #377 MandyManners

How many very right wing conservatives strap bombs to themselves or their buddies’ widows to blow up civilians?

Mandy… don’t be obtuse. The extreme religious motives of radical Christians and radical Islamist are basically the same. No where did I address the outcomes, who straps on bombs versus who runs trucks with explosives into federal buildings, I was talking about the motivation, which, in my studies, in my first hand knowledge, run along the same lines.

You’re black and white estimation of this sort of topic belays your lack of critical thinking.

Really, I like you Mandy, always had, but you can’t diminish the realities of the situation by playing word games.

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:17:17am

Speaking of borders and all that… what is the down-side of changing the anchor baby statute.

397 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:18:00am

re: #393 albusteve

What is it in ‘hundreds of miles of empty hill and desert’ that makes the border easy to close?

398 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:19:07am

re: #336 albusteve

According to Deirdre Barrett, a clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, our lingering primal urges have helped give rise to the obesity epidemic, social isolation, poor risk-assessment tendencies and sex addiction, among countless other things. All because our biology hasn’t caught up to the way we live.

Read more: [Link: www.calgaryherald.com…]

apes in a Brooks Brothers suit

Smart apes: Brooks Brothers is good stuff.

399 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:19:17am

re: #372 albusteve

“we’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.”
In fact, more than 40 former lobbyists work in the administration, including such policy makers as Deputy Defense Secretary William J. Lynn (who was lobbying for Raytheon as recently as 2008), Office of the First Lady Director of Policy and Projects Jocelyn Frye (National Partnership for Women and Families), White House Director of Intergovernmental Affairs Cecilia Muñoz (National Council of La Raza), and Treasury Secretary Chief of Staff Mark Patterson (Goldman Sachs).

maybe BO misunderdoublespoke himself on this one

[Link: reason.com…]

If he were to pull the plug on lobbyists it would decimate the K street commercial real estate and bistro market. The domino effect into the local economy would be terrible. /

400 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:19:53am

Zinger of the day…and it’s still morning.

“I think Michael Steele’s problem isn’t the race card, it’s the credit card,” Gibbs added.

Ouch.

401 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:19:59am

re: #394 Obdicut re: #395 Walter L. Newton

Maybe shouldn’t mention it but I’m gonna.

I noticed she also always ducks out when the questions start getting hard~

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:20:54am

re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops. The term “Anchor baby” is derogatory. Unfortunate on my part. Did not know.

403 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:21:09am

re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of borders and all that… what is the down-side of changing the anchor baby statute.


The closing of maternity wards all over the Canadian border. Isn’t Detroit suffering enough? /

404 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:21:25am

For those who find this topic interesting, Michael Krasny’s call-in show is on Israeli relations this hour (well, for 40 more minutes anyway). Stream can be found at KQED.org.

405 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:22:06am

re: #397 windsagio

What is it in ‘hundreds of miles of empty hill and desert’ that makes the border easy to close?

I never said it was easy…I’ve explained a strategy that already works, and really, it should be easy enough to understand if you think it through, which you don’t want to do

406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:22:13am

re: #401 windsagio

Maybe you shouldn’t.

407 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:22:43am

re: #406 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The thought did occur >>

408 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:23:20am

re: #405 albusteve

well try me. I’ve never read your plan, so I don’t know if I’d reject it out of hand or not.

409 albusteve  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:24:15am

it’s too hard…
I’m ducking out

410 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:24:46am

re: #401 windsagio

re: #395 Walter L. Newton

Maybe shouldn’t mention it but I’m gonna.

I noticed she also always ducks out when the questions start getting hard~

I have always pointed out that radical Islam is certainly more dangerous, more able to effect many more people, more apt to cause terror on a much larger scale than any group of Christian Neanderthals playing boy scouts in the woods.

But, as someone who has dealt directly with racist and radical Christian groups, I can tell you the internal motivations, the theologies, the exclusiveness, the psychology is very much the same.

411 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:24:59am

re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of borders and all that… what is the down-side of changing the anchor baby statute.

It violates Jus soli

412 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:25:26am

re: #405 albusteve

I never said it was easy…I’ve explained a strategy that already works, and really, it should be easy enough to understand if you think it through, which you don’t want to do


Establish watering stations, van pools and job fairs along the border. Those coming across have to fill out a temporary work visa application that includes the name of the employer who invited them, provides their residence while in country and requires them to complete any tax related paperwork prior to entry. (Its a crazy idea but it beats barbed wire).

413 reine.de.tout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:26:20am

re: #336 albusteve

According to Deirdre Barrett, a clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School, our lingering primal urges have helped give rise to the obesity epidemic, social isolation, poor risk-assessment tendencies and sex addiction, among countless other things. All because our biology hasn’t caught up to the way we live.

Read more: [Link: www.calgaryherald.com…]

apes in a Brooks Brothers suit

Interesting point about craving for fat in that article.

I notice my dog loves cat food - cat food is higher in fat content than dog food, because cats need a higher fat content. One of the neighbor’s dogs sometimes gets loose, and will come over and snarf down the cat food on the porch - I know that dog is well fed, so he’s not hungry. The dogs seem to crave the higher fat content, and will eat the cat food any chance he gets, whereas the cats, of course, turn up their noses at the dog food. Very interesting.

414 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:26:41am

re: #410 Walter L. Newton

I totally agree with that point. Part of where I was coming from tho’, is that Europe in in general just doesn’t have the fundamentalist movement the way we understand it in the US.

I mean clearly they’re getting some needs met, and maybe people are just people, but it just seems so outside the culture.

415 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:26:48am

re: #410 Walter L. Newton

Christian Neanderthals playing boy scouts in the woods.

Look - I said I was sorry when the troop burned down your tent. What more do you want from me? //

416 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:27:58am

re: #415 DaddyG

Look - I said I was sorry when the troop burned down your tent. What more do you want from me? //

YOUR SOUL!!11!1!

417 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:28:39am

re: #412 DaddyG

That in no way will effectively close the border as far as smuggling goes tho’. Its a whole different problem, as compared to people crossing the border to work.

418 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:28:39am

re: #416 Varek Raith

YOUR SOUL!!11!1!


Get in line…

419 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:29:26am

re: #417 windsagio

That in no way will effectively close the border as far as smuggling goes tho’. Its a whole different problem, as compared to people crossing the border to work.


Meth sniffing Predator Drones work for me. /

420 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:30:07am

re: #418 DaddyG

Get in line…

Who’s ahead? Spouse? Satan? Both?
/

421 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:30:42am

re: #419 DaddyG

If they could do that, it’d be SO AWESOME!

I’d also be for orbital laser sattelites. I mean I’m against killing people, especially when you’re not sure they’re guilty… But its so cool that I’d accept the moral dilemma.

422 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:30:58am

re: #420 Varek Raith

Sounds like you want more than his soul >>

423 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:31:21am

re: #420 Varek Raith

Who’s ahead? Spouse? Satan? Both?
/

Don’t forget work, MasterCard and WalMart. /

424 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:31:25am

re: #419 DaddyG

Meth sniffing Predator Drones work for me. /

They’ll be flying over the US neighborhoods then, not the border.

425 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:32:04am

re: #422 windsagio

Sounds like you want more than his soul >>

Souls power my eeevil starships.

426 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:32:09am

re: #422 windsagio

Sounds like you want more than his soul >>


My wife has exclusive rights to the rest of me. :-D

427 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:32:36am

re: #414 windsagio

I totally agree with that point. Part of where I was coming from tho’, is that Europe in in general just doesn’t have the fundamentalist movement the way we understand it in the US.

I mean clearly they’re getting some needs met, and maybe people are just people, but it just seems so outside the culture.

Europe is a very secular society. I suspect when you have populations who start feeling that moral and spirituality has let the daily public life, you will find people that will swing far to the fundamental side of religious thought. And the origins are not as important as the message. If you have a weak-kneed watered down Christianity, then the more firm and demanding concepts of Islam will appeal to certain people.

Man is in general sheep, and they love lots of rule, love bars, love to be corralled and told what to do, both politically and religiously. When you have a theocratic concept like Islam, that sates on a number of different levels.

You’re thinking like an American. You only have 250 years of history, these people have been through thousands of years of various political and religious experiments.

They are much more complex then we are.

428 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:33:06am

re: #424 Stanley Sea

They’ll be flying over the US neighborhoods then, not the border.


Good point, but we could eliminate the need for the market that way. Can you imagine the number of abandoned barns in rural Ohio going up in a cloud of smoke? /

429 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:35:26am

re: #428 DaddyG

Good point, but we could eliminate the need for the market that way. Can you imagine the number of abandoned barns in rural Ohio going up in a cloud of smoke? /

If President Obama suggested it, Boehner would defend meth labs as an important part of Ohio’s economy.

430 subsailor68  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:36:01am

re: #424 Stanley Sea

They’ll be flying over the US neighborhoods then, not the border.

Hi Stanley! Sadly, that’s probably true.

Reminds me of the old story about the Defense Department integrating an artificial intelligence based targeting system for the ICBM’s. Its task was to automatically re-target the missiles based on an algorithm that assessed the most significant threat to the U.S. in real time.

They had to shut it down. The system automatically pointed every missile in the arsenal at Washington D.C.

;-)

431 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:36:32am

re: #315 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam endorses another White Supremacist (I’m detecting a pattern)…
Genocide of White South Africans

As you noticed before, the Google News photo of this guy had the red white & black y-flag flying behind him. She’s preaching to those who refuse to see the facts in front of their faces. bleh.

432 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:37:14am

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

I type and think too fast. Apologies for the spotty sentence structure and the misuse of some words, but I hope you get the idea.

433 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:38:17am

re: #432 Walter L. Newton

haha I totally got what you’re saying ;)

Just not entirely sure how to reply, because I don’t know if you’re playing the last bit straight or not >>

434 im_gumby_damnit  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:38:48am

Ah, The Evil Dead series. I’ve heard that they may make another sequel. The last one was hilarious.

435 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:39:21am

re: #425 Varek Raith

Dr. Weir, is that you?

436 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:41:07am

re: #434 im_gumby_damnit

+ for the wonderful nick.

As to the other thing, Evil Dead 2 was the absolute highlight of the series. Army of Darkness was a huge step down from that.

437 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:41:23am

re: #435 lawhawk

Dr. Weir, is that you?

Busted…
Good movie, that was.
:)

438 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:41:24am

re: #431 Stanley Sea

As you noticed before, the Google News photo of this guy had the red white & black y-flag flying behind him. She’s preaching to those who refuse to see the facts in front of their faces. bleh.

Yeah, it’s pretty hard to deny that he’s a Nazi. People like Crazy Pam have crossed the threshold a while ago and no longer even attempt to hide their racism.

439 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:42:02am

re: #433 windsagio

haha I totally got what you’re saying ;)

Just not entirely sure how to reply, because I don’t know if you’re playing the last bit straight or not >>

It should be evident by the tone and tenor of that comment that it was meant in all sincerity.

440 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:42:33am

Backtrack city. I have a feeling that people have already made up their minds based on the previous vitriol.

Former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove appears in a new public service announcement encouraging people to fill out the Census.

In the ad, Rove says the questions are nearly identical to the ones founder James Madison envisioned for the original Census in 1790. He also points out that the Census is written into the Constitution.

Rove stars in census PSA

441 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:42:52am

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

Fair enough. Then I respectfully disagree that people in Europe are ‘more complex’ than us :P

The rest of it was right on and very well said ;)

442 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:43:15am

re: #440 Stanley Sea

He’s still the Devil!

443 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:43:58am

re: #442 windsagio

damn forgot the link:

444 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:44:18am

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

This was posted on my local Craigs List thingy.
[Link: sarasota.craigslist.org…]

Do you know about this? It’s in Boulder.

445 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:44:28am

re: #440 Stanley Sea

Backtrack city. I have a feeling that people have already made up their minds based on the previous vitriol.

Rove stars in census PSA

Well, isn’t that special?

446 Lidane  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:45:22am

re: #436 windsagio

+ for the wonderful nick.

As to the other thing, Evil Dead 2 was the absolute highlight of the series. Army of Darkness was a huge step down from that.

Morning, Lizards! Today, I’m another year older, and not the least bit wiser. Heh.

I totally agree about Evil Dead 2 being the best of the series. First time I ever saw it was at the Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin, and Bruce Campbell was actually there for a book signing and Q&A. I got to spend a few minutes with him after the film and before the rest of the crowd made their way over. He’s a genuinely nice guy.

447 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:46:00am

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

And yet Italy has elected a fascist yet again, and is persecuting an ethnic minority. For all their vaunted complexity, Europeans seem to love repeating their mistakes of the past.

448 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:46:12am

re: #446 Lidane

From what I’ve read, he seems to have that wonderful sense of how lucky he actually was, which is always charming in an actor :D

449 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:46:41am

re: #441 windsagio

Fair enough. Then I respectfully disagree that people in Europe are ‘more complex’ than us :P

The rest of it was right on and very well said ;)


I am pondering that last statement too. They are complex in different ways than us and it is easy to stereotype other cultures. We of course are part old Europe and part new world given our own history.

I also agree that the lure of certainty can be attractive and cause people to turn a blind eye to the uglier parts of their faith.

450 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:48:04am

re: #446 Lidane

A friend of mine who’s worked crap jobs in Hollywood has said that Cambell is famous for being a totally nice guy to everyone, regardless of Hollywood ‘status’. It was nice to hear.

451 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:48:08am

re: #449 DaddyG

That’s why I thought he was spoofing me >>

I think the lure of certainty might be the key to the story there. The traditional religion in Germany, France, Britian, and Scandanavia is essentially dead.

452 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:49:12am

re: #441 windsagio

Fair enough. Then I respectfully disagree that people in Europe are ‘more complex’ than us :P

The rest of it was right on and very well said ;)

It may be the way I put that, I’m not sure how to explain it other than use the word complex.

What I am trying to say is they have much more “baggage” to sort through in regards to any situation, especially political or religious. It’s not as simple as right/wrong, left/right. These people have had to put up with the “rules” changing every 50-60 years, through history, borders changing, experiments in numerous systems of governments, kings, queens, defined classes…

Europeans, actually people of most of the world, have much more complex issues to deal with, now and for centuries before. We are gifted to have had the system we have had.

453 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:50:32am

re: #452 Walter L. Newton

well said, and now I understand!

454 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:50:51am
455 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:51:36am

re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar

This was posted on my local Craigs List thingy.
[Link: sarasota.craigslist.org…]

Do you know about this? It’s in Boulder.

Never heard of them, but I suspect if they are into aerospace optics, they partner with Ball Industries, and/or Lockheed Martin, which would be the big leaders in aerospace technology in the Denver/Boulder front range area. It probably won’t be hard to track down how established they are.

456 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:52:08am

OT, awesome funny if you like newspaper comics:

*note: If you don’t know the comic they’re spoofing, or maybe engrish.com, this’ll make alot less sense.

457 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:52:18am

re: #452 Walter L. Newton

It always intrigues me how much of the old world caste system we still have stuck in our national identity. A local radio show had on a mother who was trying to convince her son to un-invite a girl to prom that she felt was “beneath” him. She wasn’t a bad kid, just not as popular or skinny.

I was quickly reminded of the English aristocracy my ancestors were escaping.

458 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:52:51am

re: #455 Walter L. Newton

Never heard of them, but I suspect if they are into aerospace optics, they partner with Ball Industries, and/or Lockheed Martin, which would be the big leaders in aerospace technology in the Denver/Boulder front range area. It probably won’t be hard to track down how established they are.

I thought it might be up your alley after your post about stones and the such.

459 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:53:44am

re: #457 DaddyG

Or the obsession with the damn English Royal family.

I’m proud to say that I never cared about Princess Di!

460 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:54:16am

re: #457 DaddyG

It always intrigues me how much of the old world caste system we still have stuck in our national identity. A local radio show had on a mother who was trying to convince her son to un-invite a girl to prom that she felt was “beneath” him. She wasn’t a bad kid, just not as popular or skinny.

I was quickly reminded of the English aristocracy my ancestors were escaping.

English, French, Germany… really the whole of western Europe. I was surprised recently reading some stuff about England/France circa 1600’s, that certain classes of people were not even allowed certain weapons. An interesting way to keep people in their class.

461 lawhawk  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:54:44am

British couple lose appeal in Dubai over 30 day sentence for kissing in public.

The ruling came as the judge spoke only Arabic, and the couple’s defense lawyer had to relay the news.

“I want to go to jail straight away,” Adams, 25, said after the verdict, The Sun reported.

“I’m stuck in this country with no money and I can’t work.”

“I just want to serve my 30 days and get out of here,” said Najafi, 24, according to the British paper.

The two have 30 days to file another appeal.

A 38-year-old woman with her daughter filed the complaint that got the couple busted, which reportedly occurred at the Jumeirah Beach Residence.

The couple’s defense attorney claimed the incident was not seen by the woman, but her 2-year-old child, the BBC reported.

462 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:54:56am

re: #458 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought it might be up your alley after your post about stones and the such.

Oh no, I don’t grind optics or facet anything. A really different talent. But thanks.

463 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:55:06am

re: #460 Walter L. Newton

well, you know :p

That was part of the premise for the 2nd amendment :P

464 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:56:06am

re: #463 windsagio

well, you know :p

That was part of the premise for the 2nd amendment :P

Well, evidently I understand the connection… now.

465 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:56:37am

re: #464 Walter L. Newton

zing!

466 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:58:14am

I have to go kitten babysit. Step-kid gets 6 week old kitten, step-kid has to go to school, step-dad only works 20 hours a week, so step-dad is around the house at certain times… step-dad plays litten baby sitter…

I already spent a half hour or so playing with it earlier this morning… the kitten shit on my bed to thank me for all the fun.

467 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:59:18am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

I have to go kitten babysit. Step-kid gets 6 week old kitten, step-kid has to go to school, step-dad only works 20 hours a week, so step-dad is around the house at certain times… step-dad plays litten baby sitter…

I already spent a half hour or so playing with it earlier this morning… the kitten shit on my bed to thank me for all the fun.

Awwww.

468 Varek Raith  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:59:20am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

I have to go kitten babysit. Step-kid gets 6 week old kitten, step-kid has to go to school, step-dad only works 20 hours a week, so step-dad is around the house at certain times… step-dad plays litten baby sitter…

I already spent a half hour or so playing with it earlier this morning… the kitten shit on my bed to thank me for all the fun.

It likes you!

469 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:59:22am

I’m out too, I told myself that I WOULD get at least a few hours sleep, and log off at 10AM.

470 windsagio  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:59:35am

re: #468 Varek Raith

Or its asserting dominance >>

471 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 9:59:43am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

I have to go kitten babysit. Step-kid gets 6 week old kitten, step-kid has to go to school, step-dad only works 20 hours a week, so step-dad is around the house at certain times… step-dad plays litten baby sitter…

I already spent a half hour or so playing with it earlier this morning… the kitten shit on my bed to thank me for all the fun.

Note to self: Don’t have fun at Walter’s house.
/

472 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:00:10am

re: #466 Walter L. Newton

I have to go kitten babysit. Step-kid gets 6 week old kitten, step-kid has to go to school, step-dad only works 20 hours a week, so step-dad is around the house at certain times… step-dad plays litten baby sitter…

I already spent a half hour or so playing with it earlier this morning… the kitten shit on my bed to thank me for all the fun.

It gave you a gift!

473 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:01:14am

re: #471 Cannadian Club Akbar

Note to self: Don’t have fun at Walter’s house.
/

You can have fun…just don’t shit on his bed.

474 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:01:18am

re: #472 darthstar

It gave you a gift!

LOOK!! A TOOTSIE ROLL!!!
/

475 Political Atheist  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:01:51am

re: #474 Cannadian Club Akbar
re: #466 Walter L. Newton


He gave all he had to give.

476 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:02:05am

re: #474 Cannadian Club Akbar

LOOK!! A TOOTSIE ROLL!!!
/

Well, according to my dog when he was still a puppy, Pootsie-rolls were a delicacy.

477 Usually refered to as anyways  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:02:13am

re: #440 Stanley Sea

Rove stars in cencus PSA

ROVE YOU MAGNIFICENT BARSTARD

478 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:02:15am

re: #473 darthstar

You can have fun…just don’t shit on his bed.

I would like to crap in my friend’s cat’s litter box just to see his reaction. Heh.

479 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:02:51am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would like to crap in my friend’s cat’s litter box just to see his reaction. Heh.

His, or the cats?

480 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:02:55am

good morning everyone. And to any other californians, did the earth move for you yesterday?

481 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:03:52am

re: #452 Walter L. Newton

When I was in England in ‘82, it seemed that many people were anxious to shake off the “old”. they would say You like that old Abbey? It’s just so…old” The people were and still are leaving the Anglican church in droves.
All of the young housewives were dying to update their kitchens and houses.
Sir Terence Conran saw this wave and made a bundle guiding the Brits to new style.
When I would make a comment about the tiny clothes washer in the kitchen, they would say a bit defensively “Oh yes, we have all the mod cons.”

Now with the influx of immigrants, I think they are re-inventing themselves again.

482 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:03:55am

re: #479 darthstar

His, or the cats?

Both! (actually, when hanging by the pool, we pee next to his boat.)

483 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:05:38am

re: #461 lawhawk

British couple lose appeal in Dubai over 30 day sentence for kissing in public.

but I thought Israel was the only mideast country that features bad government and unfair treatment of innocent people ….

/ need I?

484 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:05:39am

re: #482 Cannadian Club Akbar

Both! (actually, when hanging by the pool, we pee next to his boat.)

Peeing outside is one of the greatest simple pleasures in life.

485 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:06:03am

re: #459 windsagio

Or the obsession with the damn English Royal family.

I’m proud to say that I never cared about Princess Di!


Agreed …and I cared for her more than the rest of the Royals.

Of course they userped my Plantagenet ancestors so I may be holding a grudge. /

486 darthstar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:06:26am

re: #483 _RememberTonyC

but I thought Israel was the only mideast country that features bad government and unfair treatment of innocent people …

/ need I?

See how much they have in common with their neighbors!

487 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:06:52am

Happy Easter Monday, you bunch of scruffy no-names!

[current rotating title]

488 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:08:14am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would like to crap in my friend’s cat’s litter box just to see his reaction. Heh.

I pee on the fence post after the neighbor’s dog just to tick it off.

489 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:09:08am

re: #488 DaddyG

I pee on the fence post after the neighbor’s dog just to tick it off.

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

490 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:10:30am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

I think your aim must be quite exceptional to make that work.

491 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:11:42am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

It is- My fathers dog connected an electric fence to the gound with a stream of pee. Dad said it had the funniest walk for about a week and it flinched every time it had to pee. We also dared the kid down the street to do it once. When the stream crossed the wire he made a funny noise and ran off.

492 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:11:55am

re: #490 Cato the Elder

I think your aim must be quite exceptional to make that work.

If you’re full of beer you have:
A. Plenty to work with.
B. No shakes.
C. Heh

493 badger1970  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:12:22am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

True.
Mythbusters Annotated

Electrified Third Rail: tested with an electric fence instead and found that an electric fence can shock you if you pee on it. confirmed *

494 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:12:23am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

Dunno about that, but I did learn at a young age not to put my hand near one. Had my open hand held out to the wire, and the pulse went through it, next thing I know my hand suddenly wraps around the wire, and I had an ouch.

I was a stupid kid… but I have stories now!

495 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:12:55am

re: #33 ryannon

No, but after three years of travel and the gradual unwinding of my young and clueless American core, my instincts of self-preservation were pointing me in that direction. I’d spent a little time in Paris before setting out, and it had always both perplexed me and (sometimes) just tied me in knots. I figured (dimly) that a place with so much powerful ju-ju - and I had been in some incredible places around the world before orbiting back to Paris - was something I needed to master if I was ever going to get myself together again…

I was right - but I had no idea of how hard it would be (essentially fighting myself every inch of the way) or the price I would have to pay (the ‘death’ of the person who I had been).

Sounds like you’re just about ready for Rome. Talk about juju!

496 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:13:23am

“China blocks Bob Dylan gigs.”[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

Feh, of course they would.

497 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:13:51am

re: #494 MrSilverDragon

Dunno about that, but I did learn at a young age not to put my hand near one. Had my open hand held out to the wire, and the pulse went through it, next thing I know my hand suddenly wraps around the wire, and I had an ouch.

I was a stupid kid… but I have stories now!

I did that. And I had my sister grab a wire when she was 1. I was 3. I got “teh whoopin’”

498 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:14:12am

re: #494 MrSilverDragon

Dunno about that, but I did learn at a young age not to put my hand near one. Had my open hand held out to the wire, and the pulse went through it, next thing I know my hand suddenly wraps around the wire, and I had an ouch.

I was a stupid kid… but I have stories now!


At least you were a kid. I was helping a friend install his and tapped my finder to see if it was getting power. Of course I forgot I was wearing rubber souled shoes. When I knelt in the damp grass to try it again I suddenly rememberd grade school science!!

499 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:14:38am

I.

500 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:14:45am

need.

501 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:14:55am

to

502 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:05am

get

503 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:10am

this

504 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:16am

out

505 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:17am

re: #500 Cannadian Club Akbar

more cowbell?

506 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:26am

of

507 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:32am

the

508 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:15:40am

way.

509 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:16:13am

First ding on 10,000 posts. Congrats!

510 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:16:26am

re: #508 Cannadian Club Akbar

way.

My 10,000 post. Considering I hardly posted the first 3 years, cool.:)

511 Jadespring  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:16:38am

re: #489 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just don’t pee on an electric fence.
/I don’t even know if that is true.

It’s true.

How do I know? Visiting Grandpas farm, all us cousins set loose for the day, electric fencing, bored, truth or dare = one male cousin shocked and crying.

512 MandyManners  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:17:03am

re: #395 Walter L. Newton

Mandy… don’t be obtuse. The extreme religious motives of radical Christians and radical Islamist are basically the same. No where did I address the outcomes, who straps on bombs versus who runs trucks with explosives into federal buildings, I was talking about the motivation, which, in my studies, in my first hand knowledge, run along the same lines.

You’re black and white estimation of this sort of topic belays your lack of critical thinking.

Really, I like you Mandy, always had, but you can’t diminish the realities of the situation by playing word games.

I wasn’t talking about Christians. As far as McVeigh goes, according to the foot-noted entry in Wiki about him, his motivation was not to kill for Christ. In fact, he claimed to be an agnostic who said science was his religion.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

On the subject of Christians, I don’t know of any Christians who blow up themselves and others in the name of Christ. Do you? Are Christians commanded in the New Testament to slay infidels? Or, are we commanded to go forth and preach the Gospel?

513 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:18:15am

re: #509 DaddyG

First ding on 10,000 posts. Congrats!

Thank you!!

514 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:19:57am

re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar

Congratulations. You made constructive use of the time you had.

Breakfast items sell well on a menu. You just have to have one hot top lower for the eggs. Hash browns sell like crazy and there are some pretty good partially made food service brands out there. How are the owner’s suppliers?

515 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:21:28am

re: #514 prairiefire

(referring to your new job)

516 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:22:51am

This weekend I started reading the comic book DMZ. I saw one of the trade paperback editions at the library and it looked interesting.

It’s about a second Civil War between the US and the “Free States.” Manhattan is a demilitarized no man’s land. It begins five years after the war started, and a young journalist is trapped in Manhattan. Very fascinating stuff. I placed holds on volumes 2 and 3 from the library today. Hopefully I’ll get them some time this week.

517 teleskiguy  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:22:59am

Stupid fucking rich kids!

518 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:23:14am

re: #514 prairiefire

Congratulations. You made constructive use of the time you had.

Breakfast items sell well on a menu. You just have to have one hot top lower for the eggs. Hash browns sell like crazy and there are some pretty good partially made food service brands out there. How are the owner’s suppliers?

I don’t do breakfast. But we do eggs in saute pans. I do big ticket stuff.:)

519 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:24:20am

re: #512 MandyManners

I wasn’t talking about Christians. As far as McVeigh goes, according to the foot-noted entry in Wiki about him, his motivation was not to kill for Christ. In fact, he claimed to be an agnostic who said science was his religion.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

On the subject of Christians, I don’t know of any Christians who blow up themselves and others in the name of Christ. Do you? Are Christians commanded in the New Testament to slay infidels? Or, are we commanded to go forth and preach the Gospel?

The gospel’s message of peace and compassion hasn’t seemed to dampen the imperialist spirits of many a Christian nation. The bible may not have commanded Christians to “slay” infidels. But there are plenty of native peoples who were killed in the name of Christ for refusing to eschew local customs in favor of Christianity.

520 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:24:34am

re: #517 teleskiguy

Stupid fucking rich kids!

[Video]

Look up the band “RKL.” Stands for Rich Kids on LSD. Parents paid for their album. (no CD’s at that time)

521 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:24:50am

Just another crazy drunk? Easter….

[Link: hosted.ap.org…]

SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (AP) — Authorities say six people survived when their all-terrain vehicle plunged 700 feet off a cliff overnight in a Massachusetts park.

South Hadley District Fire Chief David Keefe says the victims are in serious to good condition after the ATV went over the cliff in Skinner State Park around 1:30 a.m. Sunday.

522 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:20am

re: #517 teleskiguy

Stupid fucking rich kids!

The title says it all - I’m not going to give those assholes a click.

I wish they’d buy a brand-new Lexus and run it at speed into a bridge abutment.

523 Stanley Sea  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:40am

re: #517 teleskiguy

Wrong in every way.

524 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:41am

re: #521 Stanley Sea

Just another crazy drunk? Easter…

[Link: hosted.ap.org…]

For the record, I wasn’t there.

525 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:42am

re: #512 MandyManners
That’s a tough subject for me Mandy. Modern Christian sects tend to emphsize the New Testament teachings of forgivness and mercy- but there are too many who use passages of their scriptures to justify what are in my opinion evil acts. Individuals are even worse- using the more apocoluptic passages of the Bible or any other manual to justify their own blood lust. As a Mormon I’ve had zealots contextually abuse the scriptures to “condemn” me. Fortunately only once did someone physically come after me on a train so he could “cast the devil out of me”.

My own religion is not immune to traditions that were better left in the old world. Extra-biblical interpretations as a justification for slavery and racial segragation (which thankfully we gave up in the 1970s without a schizm).

However, in the modern context I’d say Islam is suffering through an era much akin to many western religions in the dark ages. The critical mass of those in many Islamic sects that are willing to die and make others die for their beliefs is too high for my comfort.

526 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:43am

re: #495 Cato the Elder

Sounds like you’re just about ready for Rome. Talk about juju!


Not the same tutelary spirits, Cato.

It’s what doesn’t meet the eye that’s sometimes the most important.

527 teleskiguy  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:25:55am

re: #520 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love Rich Kids On L.S.D.! Got turned on to them about 15 years ago by some redneck punker I knew in high school.

528 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:26:31am

re: #527 teleskiguy

I love Rich Kids On L.S.D.! Got turned on to them about 15 years ago by some redneck punker I knew in high school.

WOW!! Just wow!!

529 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:29:40am

re: #517 teleskiguy
No kidding. That irks me. I’m patching together household appliences and PCs with mail order parts so my family can have clean clothes, dishes and do school work. These brats are pi—ing away thousands of dollars. They need to get a job at the local fast food place and try to support themselves for a few months.

530 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:30:28am

Crap. I gotta run, again. BBIAB.

531 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:30:59am

re: #512 MandyManners

On the subject of Christians, I don’t know of any Christians who blow up themselves and others in the name of Christ. Do you? Are Christians commanded in the New Testament to slay infidels? Or, are we commanded to go forth and preach the Gospel?

I don’t know any Christians† who do those things, either. It doesn’t mean they don’t exist. But then eliminationist anti-infidel Christians may prefer time bombs or .50 cal. machine guns.

You do know that “infidel” is a Latinate Christian word that was in common use long before Islam saw the light of day, don’t you? Does that tell you anything?

†Nor do I know any Muslims who do. But don’t let that stop you from gettin’ your one-way hate on.

532 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:32:17am

re: #518 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ooh, a Prime Rib and Lobster guy! Were you in food service when the US put the tariff on the New Zealand lamb and veal? It went from $12.95 a pound to $25. I think 1997.

533 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:32:32am

Boy does my spelling suck today. Phat phingers from gardening and lawn mower repair.

534 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:33:37am

re: #532 prairiefire

Ooh, a Prime Rib and Lobster guy! Were you in food service when the US put the tariff on the New Zealand lamb and veal? It went from $12.95 a pound to $25. I think 1997.

That explains why they took it off the menu at a local game eatery. I loved red tailed deer with a nice bleu cheeze garlic sauce.

535 drcordell  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:34:17am

re: #531 Cato the Elder

I don’t know any Christians† who do those things, either. It doesn’t mean they don’t exist. But then eliminationist anti-infidel Christians may prefer time bombs or .50 cal. machine guns.

You do know that “infidel” is a Latinate Christian word that was in common use long before Islam saw the light of day, don’t you? Does that tell you anything?

†Nor do I know any Muslims who do. But don’t let that stop you from gettin’ your one-way hate on.

There were certainly no infidels killed during the Spanish Inquisition. Of course, that is because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

536 badger1970  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:36:32am

Man kills because he can. The excuses come later.

537 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:38:17am

re: #534 DaddyG

I was on the East Coast and the US market was opening up to mainly New Zealanders with the most awesome, cheap cuts of lamg, goat, and veal. Venison, too. Our US suppliers cried to President Clinton and NZ was banished through the tariff applied to their stuff.
They were bummed. If you can get a good toe hold in the US food market, you will make some jack.

538 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:38:42am

re: #537 prairiefire

pimf lamb….

539 Cato the Elder  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:39:07am

re: #536 badger1970

Man kills because he can wants to. The excuses come later.

FTFY.

I can kill anytime I want. I may not kill for other reasons. A little matter of a moral code, which in my case has something to do with religion.

540 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:39:11am

I’ve got to give credit where it is due. The West and particularly the US are very good at intellectualy beating ourselves up after a successful conquest. I just don’t see the Arabian peninsula crying salty tears over the ethics of exporting Wahabbism and Jihad to Europe and Asia.

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:44:22am

Okay, Right?

I.
Do.
Not.
Judge.
A.
President.
On.
His.
Fastball.
Or.
His.
Hanging.
Curve.

Got it?

542 DaddyG  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:44:55am

According to the Atlanta Allergy & Asthma Clinic, Monday morning’s [pollen] count was 1,633 particles of pollen per cubic meter of air. Late last week, the count was climbing slowly, from a mere 17 on Wednesday to 59 on Thursday to 112 on Friday; then the count exploded well into the extremely high category on Monday. Anything over 120 is considered extremely high.

You gotta be tough to breathe in Atlanta!

543 badger1970  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:45:01am

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He scoffed it?

544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:45:34am

re: #543 badger1970

High and outside.

No problem.

545 Killgore Trout  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:46:00am

This is making the rounds this morning…..
Collateral Murder

5th April 2010 10:44 EST WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad — including two Reuters news staff.

Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.


It a long tape so I haven’t scrutinized the whole thing but it appears to be press embeded with a terrorist cell and hiding in a populated area.

546 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:46:08am

I’m sitting here considering two things:

1. Why, on facebook, do runners feels the need to tell us how many miles they have run? Weightlifters don’t say anything. I’m sure some of my friends do pilates. But only the runners post things like: “6 miles in the sleet and snow. Boy, do I feel good!” (Of course you do. You’re no longer in the sleet and snow.)

2. Is freerice.com actually a psychology experiment? If you could do a really easy task, and simultaneously be rewarded by having done a small good deed, would you do it? The boys are up to a cup of rice, and excited about it.

547 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:46:11am

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay, Right?

I.
Do.
Not.
Judge.
A.
President.
On.
His.
Fastball.
Or.
His.
Hanging.
Curve.

Got it?

Not even if he wears “mom jeans”?

548 prairiefire  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:47:42am

re: #546 EmmmieG

Runners are awful braggers. Ask them how many marathons they’ve been in.

549 badger1970  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:50:29am

re: #546 EmmmieG

1. Why, on facebook, do runners feels the need to tell us how many miles they have run? Weightlifters don’t say anything. I’m sure some of my friends do pilates. But only the runners post things like: “6 miles in the sleet and snow. Boy, do I feel good!” (Of course you do. You’re no longer in the sleet and snow.)

Running is one of those masochistic activities that can be spoken about openly in public. //

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:50:55am

re: #548 prairiefire

Runners are awful braggers. Ask them how many marathons they’ve been in.

And ex-smokers.
And Prius Drivers.

551 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:51:05am

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And ex-smokers.
And Prius Drivers.

And Grandparents.

552 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 10:59:43am

re: #536 badger1970

Man kills because he can. The excuses come later.

God loves; Man kills.

Or so the X-Men tell me.

William

553 Lidane  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 11:01:28am

re: #548 prairiefire

Runners are awful braggers. Ask them how many marathons they’ve been in.

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And ex-smokers.
And Prius Drivers.

Ex-addicts in general, at least in my experience.

I mean, I’m all for people facing their demons and their addictions head on and getting help. Really. I think it’s great when someone can get a handle on their life and get things under control. HOWEVER, I don’t need to hear exactly how many years a person’s been clean, all the gory details of what they did in the throes of their addiction, how God pulled them out of the shit they got themselves into, or how their daily Twelve Step inventory keeps them sane.

It’s great that it worked out for them, but there comes a point where it’s less about gratitude over beating your demons and more about bragging to prove how self-righteous you are.

554 Macha  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 11:11:07am

rget=”_blank”>en.wikipedia.org…]

On the subject of Christians, I don’t know of any Christians who blow up themselves and others in the name of Christ. Do you? Are Christians commanded in the New Testament to slay infidels? Or, are we commanded to go forth and preach the Gospel?

I don’t know of any who blow up themselves either. But I’ve met plenty who are willing to blow up, beat up, burn at the stake, torture and inflict psychological damage on anyone else in their path as a way of going forth to preach the gospel. It continues to this day. IMO there is very little difference between radical fundamentalist Christians and other radical fundamentalist religions. I’m Pagan, Wiccan to be specific, and there are plenty of “good Christians” out there who think I should be the subject of their next bar-b-cue.
I stay in the broom closet where I live. Anyone who thinks that there really is freedom of religion in this country, better think again.

555 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 11:54:49am

re: #214 Obdicut

I’m using “Islamist” in the modern meaning of “Wanting a government based on Islam”.

I think the rejection of Umarov’s claim to an Emirate by so many Chechen politicians and military leaders, who want to see a return of th Republic, demonstrates that very well.

And even Umarov rejects Wahabism.

However, I expect the influence of the Islamic Radicals to grow there as the conflict continues, since it’s something that breeds well in dark and bloody places.

The civilized world did jack to help Chechnya. It was assured that the salesmen of Jihad would come to call, however, and that they would find some takers for their wares.

We let that happen.

556 ryannon  Mon, Apr 5, 2010 12:49:31pm

re: #554 Macha

rget=”_blank”>en.wikipedia.org…]

On the subject of Christians, I don’t know of any Christians who blow up themselves and others in the name of Christ. Do you? Are Christians commanded in the New Testament to slay infidels? Or, are we commanded to go forth and preach the Gospel?


I don’t know of any who blow up themselves either. But I’ve met plenty who are willing to blow up, beat up, burn at the stake, torture and inflict psychological damage on anyone else in their path as a way of going forth to preach the gospel. It continues to this day. IMO there is very little difference between radical fundamentalist Christians and other radical fundamentalist religions. I’m Pagan, Wiccan to be specific, and there are plenty of “good Christians” out there who think I should be the subject of their next bar-b-cue.
I stay in the broom closet where I live. Anyone who thinks that there really is freedom of religion in this country, better think again.

Wow - a Wiccan!

Probably LGF’s first.

Or the first to admit it….


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