Midday Open Thread
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Here’s a no frills midday open thread, as I wait (and wait, and wait) for Windows 7 to finish the latest time-consuming utterly necessary updates.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:14:24pm |
Just upgraded to the latest version of Parallels too, so I’m installing Win 7 in that at the same time.
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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:15:33pm |
Alaska must release Palin e-mails by May 31, state AG declares
The state of Alaska has until May 31 to release about 25,000 pages of e-mails from former Gov. Sarah Palin and senior members of her administration, the state attorney general declared Wednesday.
As we reported last month, by May the delays in dealing with public records from the Palin administration will have stretched out longer than the Palin administration itself. She was governor for 966 days. By May 31, the request from msnbc.com for the official records will be 986 days old. State regulations usually require records to be made available within 10 days, but state officials said they were overwhelmed by the volume of the e-mails.
Officials in the governor’s office asked the attorney general to approve a 15th delay in the process, until May 31. That request was approved Wednesday by the new attorney general, John J. Burns.
(from the last thread)
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_remembertonyc Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:17:56pm |
Charles … Did you move to Riverside?
[Link: www.azcentral.com…]
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:19:01pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:19:34pm |
You learn so much when you travel international. Since I was in Paris for 10 days, I was reading a lot of French newspapers, and besides Tunisia, Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian president, who is having a Bill Clinton moment, is currently hot news… and so are some of the woman he has been diddling around with…
Ah… world affairs… aren’t they great…
[Link: www.google.com…]
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:19:35pm |
re: #5 _remembertonyc
Charles … Did you move to Riverside?
[Link: www.azcentral.com…]
Nah, its a mobile
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:21:01pm |
Remember:
An important pillar of the bilateral relationship remains U.S. security and economic assistance to Egypt, which expanded significantly in the wake of the Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty in 1979. U.S. military aid to Egypt totals over $1.3 billion annually. In addition, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) has provided over $28 billion in economic and development assistance to Egypt since 1975. Early assistance focused on infrastructure, health, food supply, and agriculture. The Commodity Import Program, through which USAID provided hundreds of millions of dollars in financing to enable the Egyptian private sector to import U.S. goods, was one of the largest and most popular USAID programs. Current programs focus on trade and investment; utilities; education; healthier, planned families; natural resources; democracy and governance; and other programs supported by the Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI).
[Link: www.state.gov…]
That’s quite a lever. I hope the State Department handles it for good.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:21:07pm |
re: #5 _remembertonyc
Charles … Did you move to Riverside?
[Link: www.azcentral.com…]
Back at the shelter, staff found the reptile was well-behaved for a Monitor lizard.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:21:25pm |
re: #7 Walter L. Newton
You learn so much when you travel international. Since I was in Paris for 10 days, I was reading a lot of French newspapers, and besides Tunisia, Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian president, who is having a Bill Clinton moment, is currently hot news… and so are some of the woman he has been diddling around with…
Ah… world affairs… aren’t they great…
[Link: www.google.com…]
Warning… maybe not safe for work…
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:21:29pm |
re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
My iPad won’t let me open that link
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Buck Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:21:59pm |
re: #7 Walter L. Newton
Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian president, who is having a Bill Clinton moment, is currently hot news… and so are some of the woman he has been diddling around with…
This might actually hurt his chances for re-election if this turns out to be not true.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:22:11pm |
re: #7 Walter L. Newton
You learn so much when you travel international. Since I was in Paris for 10 days, I was reading a lot of French newspapers, and besides Tunisia, Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian president, who is having a Bill Clinton moment, is currently hot news… and so are some of the woman he has been diddling around with…
Ah… world affairs… aren’t they great…
[Link: www.google.com…]
Hey, Its Italy.
Silvio Berlusconi defended by Italian porn star
The debate raging in Italy about Silvio Berlusconi’s alleged taste for teenage girls and prostitutes has taken a surreal turn, after the country’s top porn star weighed in with high praise for the prime minister. “The truth is,” said Rocco Siffredi, “that Italians are proud of someone like Berlusconi who is 74, loves sex and has a good sex life – and I don’t just mean working-class Italians.”
Siffredi, 46, was named by an adult film industry listing as one of the world’s 50 top porn stars and is now a celebrity, appearing on Italian chat shows. He told the Observer that, if Berlusconi can avoid jail for allegedly paying a teenager for sex and pressuring the police into covering it up, he will be forgiven by Italian voters. “In any other country he would have been forced out years ago, but here he gets away with it,” said Siffredi.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:22:20pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:23:26pm |
Fox Nation: Gorilla Walking Upright Newest Web Sensation
The comments are just what you’d expect….
lookingforwork [Moderator] 3 minutes ago
Sure would like to see the prez take on this guy in a game of one on one.
….
osagehills [Moderator] 7 minutes ago
our bi-racial grandbaby was in our arms in Sears and a huge blk man was right in back of us at the counter and our little one not quite 2 yrs old points and says “MONKEY!” …really REALLY loud. yeah, out of the mouths of babes.
can’t call an innocent little bi-racial baby a racist, can you, not when they are half blk themselves.
…..
That is a relative of Moochell’s ll! Barry..you should have passed on that broad.
…etc
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:26:57pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:27:43pm |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
more….
Who says you cant teach Moochelle Obama to evolve
….
How about we come to you when we get a free government ride to college and you get the bill, how about we come to you when we start a b o r t i n g our babies at over 50% like in New York because the government set us up, How about we come to you when we have a WHITE Caucus and a United White college fund, your color only matters in your own head.
…
Next thing you know, one will be in the WH!!
…
maybe obama senior daddy, but not da bleached out guy in Our White House now.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:28:32pm |
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Kruk Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:28:42pm |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
Fox Nation: Gorilla Walking Upright Newest Web Sensation
The comments are just what you’d expect…Good grief.
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:03pm |
re: #24 Killgore Trout
Hurr hurr hurr.
I love the people who entirely miss the point of the Black Caucus. Ignorance really is bliss.
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:07pm |
re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It sounds dirty when you say it.
Thank you. That’s the best compliment I’ve had in a while.
Well, my daughter is 13 and my son has strep. Did I mention my daughter is 13?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:13pm |
re: #24 Killgore Trout
I took a picture in Paris, just for you. Did you see the link to it the other day?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:20pm |
Ugandan gay rights activist David Kato found murdered
David Kato, the advocacy officer for Sexual Minorities Uganda, was bludgeoned to death in Mukono, Kampala, yesterday afternoon. Witnesses saw a man fleeing the scene in a car, and police are investigating.
Along with other Ugandan gay activists, Kato had reported increased harassment since 3 January, when a high court judge granted a permanent injunction against the Rolling Stone tabloid newspaper, preventing it from identifying homosexuals in its pages.
Late last year, Kato had been pictured on the front page of an issue carrying the headline “Hang Them”. He was one of the three complainants in the court case.
“Since the ruling, David said people had been harassing him, and warning they would ‘deal with him,’” Julian Pepe Onziema, a close friend and fellow gay rights activist, said.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:37pm |
re: #26 Kruk
They’re going to have to close the comments on that thread. It was a stupid idea to even think about putting it up.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:29:58pm |
re: #29 Walter L. Newton
I took a picture in Paris, just for you. Did you see the link to it the other day?
No I missed it. What was it?
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Jadespring Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:30:45pm |
Get to go away for the weekend to attend a conference.
I’m just happy to get away from the house and house responsibilities for a few days. :)
—-does a happy dance
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:31:55pm |
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Kruk Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:33:24pm |
re: #33 Jadespring
Get to go away for the weekend to attend a conference.
I’m just happy to get away from the house and house responsibilities for a few days. :)
—-does a happy dance
I never avoid my responsibilities. I just postpone them…indefinitely.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:33:43pm |
re: #33 Jadespring
Get to go away for the weekend to attend a conference.
I’m just happy to get away from the house and house responsibilities for a few days. :)
—-does a happy dance
Have fun. I have a root vegetable question for you: Can you harvest and eat root veg over two years old? If you pull a carrot while it’s flowring and setting seed the center of the root is tough and woody. Does this go away after flowering is done?
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prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:34:32pm |
“Obama says drug legalization is worth a serious debate” in today’s you tube town hall:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:34:44pm |
Violent protests escalate outside Egypt’s capital.
[Link: video.ap.org…]
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:35:35pm |
re: #29 Walter L. Newton
I took a picture in Paris, just for you. Did you see the link to it the other day?
Paris?
You were in Paris??
You never even told us you were going/ there!!
Not even once!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:36:37pm |
re: #37 prairiefire
“Obama says drug legalization is worth a serious debate” in today’s you tube town hall:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
that’d be nice *_*
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:36:42pm |
re: #39 sattv4u2
Paris?
You were in Paris??
You never even told us you were going/ there!!
Not even once!
Not that Paris, the other one.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:36:46pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
Cool! Is that on rue de Madrid? There’s about a 6 block stretch that’s almost solid with violin shops.
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Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:37:56pm |
Repost from the previous thread.
Hey Reine! If you are still on this thread (or using Spy), have you ever done any Clay Pot Cooking?
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:37:57pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:38:02pm |
re: #37 prairiefire
“Obama says drug legalization is worth a serious debate” in today’s you tube town hall:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
He’s also going to outlaw Pizza and tater tots!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:38:23pm |
re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Not that Paris, the other one.
The one on Maine??
It’s right down the road from Norway (Maine)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:39:13pm |
re: #44 palomino
An improvement. A year ago he laughed at the idea.
well, I think politically he had to ;-) But yeah, definitely an improvement
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:40:07pm |
re: #45 Killgore Trout
He’s also going to outlaw Pizza and tater tots!
Hands off my greasy school lunch sub-Red Baron pizza with one lonely pepperoni slice in the middle!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:42:22pm |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
Cool! Is that on rue de Madrid? There’s about a 6 block stretch that’s almost solid with violin shops.
No… that was a lone shop on Bvld Beaumarchaise.
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Summer Seale Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:42:35pm |
Hi everyone! Sarah Palin here…
I’m so sorry I was late for both earlier threads about me, but I just had to drop in and say hi and tell you all that I’m so happy you’re all noticing that I’m going to be such a great President!
You know, I’ve noticed a lot of people on the left bashing Michelle for saying a lot of true things that just aren’t accepted by the left, like that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson tried to end slavery after signing the Constitution back in the days of the Congressional Constitutional times. But then it was Abrams Lincoln who actually did it after signing the Declaration of Independence because he was a Republican, and Republicans were always against that sort of thing even back then.
Well, I just wanted to point out that a lot of people on the left have real problems accepting these basic facts about the history of our great country, because they really hate America, don’t they? I mean, look at Obama’s speech about Sputnik. Why would he mention Sputnik? That’s such a WTF moment because it’s like what is he…a communist or something? I’m just asking because who else would mention Sputnik? I mean, only communists talk about decadent techno euro bands like that anyway, right? Wasn’t that what Reagan was against? I don’t really remember it, but I’m pretty sure that when Sputnik became a name we heard of, Reagan was there in the White House trying to fight that kind of socialist entertainment agenda. Right? Right America?
You know, I’m just pointing this all out to make sure that people understand my point of view and the point of view of friends of mine like Michelle and the rest of the Tea Party, because it’s based on facts - facts that the left won’t ever accept because it makes them look as stupid as they are.
But there’s just no understanding them sometimes, is there? Right?
You betcha!
Anyway, I just want to thank you all for your awesome support and let you know that I’m still out here fighting for you and the American way. God bless you all, America!
Sarah Palin.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:44:11pm |
re: #39 sattv4u2
Paris?
You were in Paris??
You never even told us you were going/ there!!
Not even once!
Smart ass… thanks for the opening… here’s the picture of the day… one of the many holocaust memorial graves at Pere Lachaise… I took this in the shadow… gave the sculptures a stark, lonely look…
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:44:26pm |
re: #45 Killgore Trout
He’s also going to outlaw Pizza and tater tots!
who could possibly care what the POTUS thinks of tater tots?….what’s he think about these guys?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]
c’mon BO, focus….tater tots are not killing people including Americans…
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:45:02pm |
New research points to earlier human migration out of Africa, 125,000 years ago
For decades, the consensus scientific opinion has held that anatomically modern humans first migrated out of Africa some 60,000 years ago, heading north into the eastern Mediterranean region and then on to Europe and Asia.
But new research released Thursday paints a very different picture. Similarly identifiable humans left Africa as early as 125,000 years ago, it says, and wandered east into the Arabian peninsula, parts of which were then wet and lush.
From there, the researchers report in a paper in the journal Science, the people who may well have been our true ancestors later headed north and on into Eurasia.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:45:23pm |
re: #45 Killgore Trout
He’s also going to outlaw Pizza and tater tots!
Check out the comments on that video at RCP. That site used to be respectable, now it’s a lot like redstate or foxnews. Anyway, most of the commenters think Obama really is going to tell them what to eat (just like he’s “taking our guns away”) and, even more hilariously, they cite the constitution because no provision therein specifically gives the prez authority to control our food supply. More Palinites proud of being ignorant.
It was just a fucking suggestion by the Prez about dealing with the world’s worst childhood obesity epidemic. And still the right goes into a tizzy. How pathetic, but how predictable
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General Nimrod Bodfish Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:48:17pm |
re: #50 Summer
Hi everyone! Sarah Palin here…
I’m so sorry I was late for both earlier threads about me, but I just had to drop in and say hi and tell you all that I’m so happy you’re all noticing that I’m going to be such a great President!
You know, I’ve noticed a lot of people on the left bashing Michelle for saying a lot of true things that just aren’t accepted by the left, like that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson tried to end slavery after signing the Constitution back in the days of the Congressional Constitutional times. But then it was Abrams Lincoln who actually did it after signing the Declaration of Independence because he was a Republican, and Republicans were always against that sort of thing even back then.
Well, I just wanted to point out that a lot of people on the left have real problems accepting these basic facts about the history of our great country, because they really hate America, don’t they? I mean, look at Obama’s speech about Sputnik. Why would he mention Sputnik? That’s such a WTF moment because it’s like what is he…a communist or something? I’m just asking because who else would mention Sputnik? I mean, only communists talk about decadent techno euro bands like that anyway, right? Wasn’t that what Reagan was against? I don’t really remember it, but I’m pretty sure that when Sputnik became a name we heard of, Reagan was there in the White House trying to fight that kind of socialist entertainment agenda. Right? Right America?
You know, I’m just pointing this all out to make sure that people understand my point of view and the point of view of friends of mine like Michelle and the rest of the Tea Party, because it’s based on facts - facts that the left won’t ever accept because it makes them look as stupid as they are.
But there’s just no understanding them sometimes, is there? Right?
You betcha!
Anyway, I just want to thank you all for your awesome support and let you know that I’m still out here fighting for you and the American way. God bless you all, America!
Sarah Palin.
Wonder how many editors had to be committed after editing the original? I take 5.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:48:21pm |
re: #47 WindUpBird
well, I think politically he had to ;-) But yeah, definitely an improvement
No former prez even went as far as Obama did today. Progress on an issue like this happens slowly, in baby steps. This may have been one of those steps.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:49:34pm |
re: #52 albusteve
who could possibly care what the POTUS thinks of tater tots?…what’s he think about these guys?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]c’mon BO, focus…tater tots are not killing people including Americans…
Well, now I’m sick.
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:49:44pm |
re: #55 commadore183
Quite possibly more but I can agree with 5.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:50:57pm |
re: #56 palomino
No former prez even went as far as Obama did today. Progress on an issue like this happens slowly, in baby steps. This may have been one of those steps.
I think there are enough experts that have stepped up to the plate with the food gig…he has more important issues to deal with…so smack me me
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:51:03pm |
re: #56 palomino
No former prez even went as far as Obama did today. Progress on an issue like this happens slowly, in baby steps. This may have been one of those steps.
He also stated “I am not in favor of legalization. I am a strong believer that we need to think more about drugs as a public health problem.”
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:51:48pm |
re: #52 albusteve
who could possibly care what the POTUS thinks of tater tots?…what’s he think about these guys?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk…]c’mon BO, focus…tater tots are not killing people including Americans…
Why not focus on both? The whole walking and chewing gum thing. Obesity in the US is a dire problem.
Tater tots don’t kill, but being 400 lbs because you eat too many damn tater tots DOES kill.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:52:12pm |
re: #52 albusteve
TALIBAN SPOKESMAN: ‘Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country’
Just a sick twisted interpretation of a religion.
There are things that were talkied about in both the Old and New Testaments that haven’t been practiced for eons!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:52:39pm |
re: #57 EmmmieG
Well, now I’m sick.
good…we have 100k troops over there trying to deal with these assholes
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:54:04pm |
re: #63 albusteve
good…we have 100k troops over there trying to deal with these assholes
I’m sitting here thinking that I’m grateful that in my religion, throwing rocks at people, particularly for this reason, is outlawed.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:54:14pm |
re: #59 albusteve
I think there are enough experts that have stepped up to the plate with the food gig…he has more important issues to deal with…so smack me me
In that post, I was talking about drug legalization. Dealt with the food thing in a different post.
Of course he has more important issues to deal with. But making 30 seconds worth of remarks on how the world’s fattest country should be less fat is hardly going to sidetrack him that much.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:54:43pm |
re: #61 palomino
Why not focus on both? The whole walking and chewing gum thing. Obesity in the US is a dire problem.
Tater tots don’t kill, but being 400 lbs because you eat too many damn tater tots DOES kill.
I’m not of the side that thinks he was hired to wander around dissin food and peoples eating habits
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:55:11pm |
re: #60 Walter L. Newton
He also stated “I am not in favor of legalization. I am a strong believer that we need to think more about drugs as a public health problem.”
Good point. That’s exactly what the Euros have done for decades, and by most metrics, they’re doing a much better job than we are.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:55:48pm |
re: #66 albusteve
I’m not of the side that thinks he was hired to wander around dissin food and peoples eating habits
huh??
[Link: www.google.com…]
///
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:59:43pm |
re: #62 sattv4u2
TALIBAN SPOKESMAN: ‘Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country’
Just a sick twisted interpretation of a religion.
There are things that were talkied about in both the Old and New Testaments that haven’t been practiced for eons!
Backslider!!1!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:00:11pm |
Old friend, facebook post this morning:
Just had some great chocolate pudding! (Fat free and sugar free, of course.) It tasted so good!
Do I post back and tell her she’s not fooling anyone?
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:00:49pm |
re: #66 albusteve
I’m not of the side that thinks he was hired to wander around dissin food and peoples eating habits
Presidents make healthy lifestyle suggestions all the time. Think about the Presidents Council on Fitness and all the hoopla surrounding that. The president has lots of different roles, not just C-in-C. These kinds of things are largely ceremonial and don’t take up much time. Ultimately harmless.
And after all, we’re the fattest nation in the history of the planet. Tens of millions of Americans have compromised quality of life due to obesity; millions more will die prematurely because of it. So, yeah, it’s important.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:01:10pm |
re: #67 palomino
Good point. That’s exactly what the Euros have done for decades, and by most metrics, they’re doing a much better job than we are.
has he proposed new legislation to redefine the drug schedules in the Controlled Substance Act?….would that be time consuming to write it up and get it before congress?, doesn’t seem like it to me….go BO!, you can do it!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:01:35pm |
Quantum Entanglement Could Stretch Across Time
two physicists have mathematically described how this spooky effect, called entanglement, could also bind particles across time.
If their proposal can be tested, it could help process information in quantum computers and test physicists’ basic understanding of the universe.
“You can send your quantum state into the future without traversing the middle time,” said quantum physicist S. Jay Olson of Australia’s University of Queensland, lead author of the new study.
In ordinary entanglement, two particles (usually electrons or photons) are so intimately bound that they share one quantum state — spin, momentum and a host of other variables — between them. One particle always “knows” what the other is doing. Make a measurement on one member of an entangled pair, and the other changes immediately.
Physicists have figured out how to use entanglement to encrypt messages in uncrackable codes and build ultrafast computers. Entanglement can also help transmit encyclopedias’ worth of information from one place to another using only a few atoms, a protocol called quantum teleportation.
In a new paper posted on the physics preprint website arXiv.org, Olson and Queensland colleague Timothy Ralph perform the math to show how these same tricks can send quantum messages not only from place to place, but from the past to the future.
The equations involved defy simple mathematical explanation, but are intuitive: If it’s impossible to describe one particle without including the other, this logically extends to time as well as space.“If you use our timelike entanglement, you find that [a quantum message] moves in time, while skipping over the intermediate points,” Olson said. “There really is no difference mathematically. Whatever you can do with ordinary entanglement, you should be able to do with timelike entanglement.”
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:02:34pm |
re: #72 albusteve
has he proposed new legislation to redefine the drug schedules in the Controlled Substance Act?…would that be time consuming to write it up and get it before congress?, doesn’t seem like it to me…go BO!, you can do it!
LIke I said, these things happen in baby steps. What you’re suggesting is a giant leap that won’t happen for years, probably 2 or 3 presidencies down the line.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:02:48pm |
re: #70 EmmmieG
Old friend, facebook post this morning:
Just had some great chocolate pudding! (Fat free and sugar free, of course.) It tasted so good!
Do I post back and tell her she’s not fooling anyone?
No
Post her back with the “Fat free and sugar free” highlighted with the question,, “Then what’s the point?”
/
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:03:43pm |
re: #71 palomino
Presidents make healthy lifestyle suggestions all the time. Think about the Presidents Council on Fitness and all the hoopla surrounding that. The president has lots of different roles, not just C-in-C. These kinds of things are largely ceremonial and don’t take up much time. Ultimately harmless.
And after all, we’re the fattest nation in the history of the planet. Tens of millions of Americans have compromised quality of life due to obesity; millions more will die prematurely because of it. So, yeah, it’s important.
I just spent 10 days in Europe… I assure you, they are trying real hard to play catch up.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:04:06pm |
re: #70 EmmmieG
Old friend, facebook post this morning:
Just had some great chocolate pudding! (Fat free and sugar free, of course.) It tasted so good!
Do I post back and tell her she’s not fooling anyone?
How much pudding did she have?
[Link: www.mtv.com…]
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:04:14pm |
re: #71 palomino
Presidents make healthy lifestyle suggestions all the time. Think about the Presidents Council on Fitness and all the hoopla surrounding that. The president has lots of different roles, not just C-in-C. These kinds of things are largely ceremonial and don’t take up much time. Ultimately harmless.
And after all, we’re the fattest nation in the history of the planet. Tens of millions of Americans have compromised quality of life due to obesity; millions more will die prematurely because of it. So, yeah, it’s important.
you get it mixed up…I never said the issue was not important..I get the impression that he thinks people will listen to him simply because he is BO…he’s wrong, let others do it….he’s made his case and should move on to the pot problem, something he can influence via the law
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:06:04pm |
re: #76 Walter L. Newton
I just spent 10 days in Europe… I assure you, they are trying real hard to play catch up.
Everybody wants to be like Americans, even if that means being morbidly obese. C’est la vie.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:07:03pm |
re: #78 albusteve
you get it mixed up…I never said the issue was not important..I get the impression that he thinks people will listen to him simply because he is BO…he’s wrong, let others do it…he’s made his case and should move on to the pot problem, something he can influence via the law
But is he really doing more than making a few comments here or there? It’s not like he’s devoting huge chunks of time to this.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:07:04pm |
re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
How much pudding did she have?
[Link: www.mtv.com…]
Please. She’s a runner. Probably 1/4 cup, and the post was to assuage her guilt for eating it.
(I, on the other hand, am sitting here bursting with pride that I’ve had two panookies in the house for a total of about 6 hours now, and haven’t cut into them yet.)
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:07:25pm |
re: #74 palomino
LIke I said, these things happen in baby steps. What you’re suggesting is a giant leap that won’t happen for years, probably 2 or 3 presidencies down the line.
the original CSA took one year to write up and pass…don’t be silly, what is there to it?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:08:17pm |
Is there a way to delete a facebook account?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:09:25pm |
re: #79 palomino
Everybody wants to be like Americans, even if that means being morbidly obese. C’est la vie.
No… it’s because they want what they want… I’m tired of having this country blamed for something that another person can fully control, on their own, with no help or hinderance from another person… or another country.
If Europeans are getting stockier (which I am suggesting is “yes”) then it’s their own fucking fault… not Americas.
Best diet in the world… if it tastes good, spit it out, not if it not good for you, you hope someone takes it out of your mouth.
Geeessshhh.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:09:43pm |
re: #80 palomino
But is he really doing more than making a few comments here or there? It’s not like he’s devoting huge chunks of time to this.
I’m results oriented…I want my elected officials to lead, legislate and make law, not dick around outside the box….he can hire a spokesperson
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:10:08pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Is there a way to delete a facebook account?
Yes… do something monumentally stupid, make the news, and they will take it down for you.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:10:15pm |
re: #82 albusteve
the original CSA took one year to write up and pass…don’t be silly, what is there to it?
Decades of resistance and public perception to overcome. Most Americans still can’t wrap their heads around legalizing pot, much less anything else. Even here in Cali, legalized pot lost.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:11:01pm |
re: #84 Walter L. Newton
No… it’s because they want what they want… I’m tired of having this country blamed for something that another person can fully control, on their own, with no help or hinderance from another person… or another country.
If Europeans are getting stockier (which I am suggesting is “yes”) then it’s their own fucking fault… not Americas.
Best diet in the world… if it tastes good, spit it out, not if it not good for you, you hope someone takes it out of your mouth.
Geeessshhh.
I was being facetious. Next time I’ll use the sarc tag so it’s even more obvious.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:11:53pm |
re: #78 albusteve
you get it mixed up…I never said the issue was not important..I get the impression that he thinks people will listen to him simply because he is BO…he’s wrong, let others do it…he’s made his case and should move on to the pot problem, something he can influence via the law
I want to know how he plans to address the threat of wooden chopping blocks…
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:11:54pm |
re: #85 albusteve
I’m results oriented…I want my elected officials to lead, legislate and make law, not dick around outside the box…he can hire a spokesperson
uhh, he’s already got one…who says the same shit, but in a different place.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:12:27pm |
re: #87 palomino
Decades of resistance and public perception to overcome. Most Americans still can’t wrap their heads around legalizing pot, much less anything else. Even here in Cali, legalized pot lost.
What about de-criminalizing pot, so the sentence for possessing pot is treatment, not jail time. (Of course, it would be mandatory, so I guess it would be jail treatment time.)
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:12:34pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
Yes… do something monumentally stupid, make the news, and they will take it down for you.
I beat them to the [unch
I did things like that BEFORE FaceBook was even invented!!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:13:38pm |
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:14:00pm |
re: #91 EmmmieG
What about de-criminalizing pot, so the sentence for possessing pot is treatment, not jail time. (Of course, it would be mandatory, so I guess it would be jail treatment time.)
We’re slowly moving in that direction. More and more places are treating small pot possession as a misdemeanor, just writing tix in some cases, no incarceration.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:14:15pm |
re: #87 palomino
Decades of resistance and public perception to overcome. Most Americans still can’t wrap their heads around legalizing pot, much less anything else. Even here in Cali, legalized pot lost.
the feds don’t have to legalize it…but they can drop it from a Schedule ! to a Schedule V where it belongs….thus penalties for possession and use would naturally degrade to a more responsible level…he can do it if he’s serious about it
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simoom Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:14:41pm |
So Simon & Schuster basically implied that “O” was written by some sort of insider within the Obama administration who had insights into his inner thoughts, but then it turns out:
McCain Aide Is Said to Be Author of ‘O’
Mark Salter is the author of “O,” the recently published roman à clef about a fictional presidential campaign, according to a growing consensus of reports in Page Six of The New York Post, which first named him as the author last week, and from Mark Halperin of Time magazine, who said this morning that Mr. Salter, a campaign aide to John McCain, undoubtedly wrote the book.
…
Simon & Schuster has successfully whipped up a media frenzy around the novel, touted as an insider’s account of a fictional presidential campaign. Mr. Salter, a veteran of national politics, fits the insider description, but perhaps not the spirit of the publisher’s breathless description of the author of “O” as someone who “has been in the room with Barack Obama.”
From a NYT review of the book last week:
… an executive at the book’s publisher says, in an online note, that he hopes this book may “offer some resonant truths about what President Obama is really thinking,” the title character turns out to be a snarkily drawn cartoon too: a conceited narcissist whose inner life consists of gripes about his opponents, frustration with his job, daydreams about golf, and self-congratulatory pats on his own back, combined with put-downs of the country at large.Anonymous has President O thinking, “This is who he had always expected to be, this competent, cool, commanding leader who was always a step ahead of his rivals, a step ahead of the country, if truth be told.” O complains that the Tea Party is a mob of “conspiracy nuts, immigrant haters, vengeful Old Testament types, publicity hustlers, and people who just have way too much time on their hands,” united by “their sneering self-righteousness and burning hatred for me.” And he believes “his gift as a public speaker was greater and rarer than the one commonly attributed to him, his ability to inspire people”: “He enlightened them. He made them understand, without making them feel threatened, that America could be a better society, that Americans could be more just, braver, wiser than they had been.”
This president is described as fantasizing, in very bad romance-novel prose, about running against a Sarah Palin-like character referred to as “the Barracuda”: “There she was, baby on her hip, thick hair piled up high, chin out, defiant, taunting, flaunting that whole lusty librarian thing, sweet and savory, mother and predator, alluring and dangerous.” He’s also described as agreeing to go with an early, highly negative campaign against his 2012 opponent even though it completely undermines his image as being “the antidote to relentless partisanship”: He “would have to battle for nine miserable months to damage another man’s reputation while mostly relying on events to improve his own.”
O’s hypocrisy and arrogance, along with improbable plot developments, make it hard not to suspect that the author of this novel is a Republican sympathizer — or at the very least someone very disillusioned with President Obama.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:15:04pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Is there a way to delete a facebook account?
Your own,, or someone elses
Because I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t be messing with someone elses!!!
//
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:15:28pm |
re: #94 palomino
We’re slowly moving in that direction. More and more places are treating small pot possession as a misdemeanor, just writing tix in some cases, no incarceration.
Tickets? Oh, that’s a good idea. ‘Cause that stops speeders all the time.
Sorry, sister of two recovering drug addicts here. Treatment. If they have to go through it 18 times before they get the point, so be it.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:15:49pm |
re: #87 palomino
Decades of resistance and public perception to overcome. Most Americans still can’t wrap their heads around legalizing pot, much less anything else. Even here in Cali, legalized pot lost.
that’s because it’s an economic, political issue, not an ethical issue…CA wants tax money from it’s sales…fuck them, where is the principle in that?
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:15:50pm |
re: #95 albusteve
the feds don’t have to legalize it…but they can drop it from a Schedule ! to a Schedule V where it belongs…thus penalties for possession and use would naturally degrade to a more responsible level…he can do it if he’s serious about it
with this congress? you really think so?
I doubt it, since the socons are still in charge, not true libertarians.
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:17:02pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
Tickets? Oh, that’s a good idea. ‘Cause that stops speeders all the time.
Sorry, sister of two recovering drug addicts here. Treatment. If they have to go through it 18 times before they get the point, so be it.
Ideally treatment, but incarceration for pot possession is using a sledgehammer to kill a fly.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:17:48pm |
re: #92 sattv4u2
There’s a new scam going on in Paris, I say new, because I hadn’t seen it before, I suspect it’s as old as the hills.
A young woman will pass you, bend over, appear to pick something off the ground, and then come to you with a “gold” ring, asking you if you dropped it. The idea of the scam is you may actually think you have a chance to claim a gold ring that is not even you, her idea is she will ask for a tip for finding it. She gets a tip and you get faux gold of course.
So, I was thinking, I swear, I’m going to be prepared the next time I travel to Paris. The next time this happens to me, I’m going to take out a small handfull of faux gold rings, poke around, count and tell her “nope… not one of mine”
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palomino Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:17:53pm |
re: #99 albusteve
that’s because it’s an economic, political issue, not an ethical issue…CA wants tax money from it’s sales…fuck them, where is the principle in that?
that’s not why it lost. lots of older folks still see it as the devil’s weed.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:18:28pm |
re: #91 EmmmieG
What about de-criminalizing pot, so the sentence for possessing pot is treatment, not jail time. (Of course, it would be mandatory, so I guess it would be jail treatment time.)
pretty hard to do when it’s categorized as more dangerous than all the powerful addicting opiates and cocaine…except heroin….haha! fucking idiots
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Ghost of Sionainn Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:18:41pm |
re: #97 sattv4u2
Your own,, or someone elses
Because I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t be messing with someone elses!!!
//
I don’t know about deleting it, but you can inactivate it and nothing shows up on the search for your name. I had to do that to my mom’s FB account after she passed because it shook me up every time her page showed on my “friends” list.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:18:43pm |
re: #43 Bubblehead II
Repost from the previous thread.
Hey Reine! If you are still on this thread (or using Spy), have you ever done any Clay Pot Cooking?
No!
If you have and wish to write something, please do so!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:18:49pm |
re: #104 MikeySDCA
Breaking: IL Sup Ct puts Rahm Emanuel back on Chicago mayoral ballot
Judicial activism!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:19:04pm |
Sorry kid, caught you with a doobie 3 times, so we’ll throw you in prison with gangbangers, rapists and murderers for a couple months to straighten you out.
Yeah, thats been effective so far.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:19:40pm |
re: #102 Walter L. Newton
You should’ve just told her “Ring store called, they want it back”. I hear it’s a new hit. /
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:19:52pm |
re: #43 Bubblehead II
Repost from the previous thread.
Hey Reine! If you are still on this thread (or using Spy), have you ever done any Clay Pot Cooking?
BTW - I have not gotten an e-mail from you.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:20:02pm |
Breaking … Rahm Emanuel back on the ballot …
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:20:07pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
Tickets? Oh, that’s a good idea. ‘Cause that stops speeders all the time.
Sorry, sister of two recovering drug addicts here. Treatment. If they have to go through it 18 times before they get the point, so be it.
treatment for what?….pot is not addictive
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:20:18pm |
re: #102 Walter L. Newton
OR
me??
I’d giver her a handful of Monopoly money for the “ring” telling her it’s the currency of some (made up name) country and all she has to do is go to the bank to exchange it!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:20:40pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:21:29pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:21:38pm |
re: #102 Walter L. Newton
There’s a new scam going on in Paris, I say new, because I hadn’t seen it before, I suspect it’s as old as the hills.
A young woman will pass you, bend over, appear to pick something off the ground, and then come to you with a “gold” ring, asking you if you dropped it. The idea of the scam is you may actually think you have a chance to claim a gold ring that is not even you, her idea is she will ask for a tip for finding it. She gets a tip and you get faux gold of course.
So, I was thinking, I swear, I’m going to be prepared the next time I travel to Paris. The next time this happens to me, I’m going to take out a small handfull of faux gold rings, poke around, count and tell her “nope… not one of mine”
Wasn’t that similar to the scam Emma Stone ran in Zombieland?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:21:39pm |
re: #104 MikeySDCA
Breaking: IL Sup Ct puts Rahm Emanuel back on Chicago mayoral ballot
Really?
Thank goodness
If the man maintained a home and property there, and paid taxes on it while he worked in DC, for cryin’ out loud, he’s a resident!
States don’t take residency away from people who serve in Congress, do they? And they live mostly in DC, while simply maintaining property in their home state, don’t they?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:21:55pm |
re: #100 palomino
with this congress? you really think so?
I doubt it, since the socons are still in charge, not true libertarians.
I’m just getting pissed about stuff…my extended family lost a foundling kid over in Afghanistan a couple of weeks ago…10-12 years they raised that boy
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simoom Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:22:26pm |
Roll Call: Pence to Announce He’s Not Running for President
A former operative for Rep. Mike Pence says the Indiana Republican won’t be running for president. Pence plans to reveal the decision about his political future Thursday, multiple outlets reported, and former Pence Political Director Jerry Alexander told Roll Call that the Congressman isn’t likely to announce much.
“There’s a 100 percent chance that he’s not going to announce a run for president,” said Alexander, who worked for Pence from 2001 to 2007.
That means Pence will be running for governor, ending more than a year of speculation about whether he’d seek national office. The Indianapolis Star said it would post Pence’s announcement after 7 p.m. Eastern time.
The Indiana Republican stepped down from his post as chairman of the Republican Study Committee following the 111th Congress, a sure sign he wasn’t looking to advance in the House, and he has attended events in early presidential primary states meant for potential Republican candidates for president. Several former Members, including Dick Armey, have been attempting to draft Pence for a White House bid.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:22:43pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
I’m outraged or something!
You may not be
But Mosely Braun and Jackson Jr. sure aren’t popping the bubbly tonight!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:22:47pm |
re: #110 Sergey Romanov
You should’ve just told her “Ring store called, they want it back”. I hear it’s a new hit. /
I should have been quicker on the up take and simply reached into my pocket, taken out a small hand full of euro coins, shield them, poke through them and give her the same line… “nope… not one of my phony rings” I could have simply acted it out without the necessary props.
I was crossing the Pont de Alma and I was hit up twice with in a couple of minutes. Of course I just brushed them off, but damn, they deserve a little show… next time.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:24:34pm |
re: #124 Walter L. Newton
Do they demand the tip before giving away the ring?
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Skeetghazi Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:24:35pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:25:40pm |
RE: Chicago Mayor Race
I wonder if a “The Rents Too Damn High” party will have a candidate!!
//(kinda)
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:26:11pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:26:24pm |
re: #115 sattv4u2
OR
me??
I’d giver her a handful of Monopoly money for the “ring” telling her it’s the currency of some (made up name) country and all she has to do is go to the bank to exchange it!
Popular in Paris on the Avenue des Champs-Élysée and Montmartre is the postcard scam. A middle eastern young woman will approach you, ask you if you speak English, and show you a postcard and ask you read it. It is a request by her “sister” or “mother” to raise enough money to get the sister or mother out of Iran or some place like that.
You literally have to brush them off like flies. I don’t even bother with them, but if I was to engage them, my first question would be why her Iranian sister or mother is writing a postcard to her in English?
Duh?
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:26:42pm |
Breaking
Heee’s Baaack…
Ill. Supreme Court keeps Emanuel on Chicago mayor ballot
LA Times
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:27:21pm |
re: #129 Walter L. Newton
A middle eastern young woman will approach you, ask you if you speak English, and show you a postcard and ask you read itI’d ask if they had any nudes!!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:27:25pm |
Well, at least nobody has accused him of incompetence.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:27:29pm |
re: #120 reine.de.tout
Really?
Thank goodnessIf the man maintained a home and property there, and paid taxes on it while he worked in DC, for cryin’ out loud, he’s a resident!
States don’t take residency away from people who serve in Congress, do they? And they live mostly in DC, while simply maintaining property in their home state, don’t they?
the residency rules are not universal…in this case the election rules in Cook County will have to be rewritten…it’s a good thing
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:27:51pm |
re: #104 MikeySDCA
Whoops, I searched for Rahm, came up blank, did not realize you already had this…
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:28:10pm |
re: #125 Sergey Romanov
Do they demand the tip before giving away the ring?
No… they will give you the ring, but then get real insistent about a tip, gently at first, and then more annoying. I’ve actually stood near by and listened to the whole patter, and they will get to the point of claiming that you have committed a crime if the ring is really not yours. They try to scare you into giving her something and shutting her up.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:28:22pm |
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:30:03pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Is there a way to delete a facebook account?
maybe, but just trying will get you listed on an NSA watchlist
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:33:05pm |
There’s an update for iTunes to support the Verizon iPhone, with other fixes too.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:34:34pm |
re: #133 albusteve
the residency rules are not universal…in this case the election rules in Cook County will have to be rewritten…it’s a good thing
I hope they don’t mess with the cemetary resident voters rights!
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:35:24pm |
re: #129 Walter L. Newton
I had a similar scam experience. Once I was sitting in McDonalds after work with mini-laptop and a guy asked me to search for an address of the Veterans’ House. He showed me the address in a strange way - he handed me his veteran’s ID inside which was the paper with the address. I.e. this way I had to see that he is a veteran. Then while I was searching he began telling me how he fought in Afghanistan, Chechnya and I don’t remember where, now he was robbed, didn’t have money to go home (by train) etc., etc. It was all quite transparent.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:35:51pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
No… they will give you the ring, but then get real insistent about a tip, gently at first, and then more annoying. I’ve actually stood near by and listened to the whole patter, and they will get to the point of claiming that you have committed a crime if the ring is really not yours. They try to scare you into giving her something and shutting her up.
What if you just walk away?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:37:17pm |
re: #140 Sergey Romanov
(Search in the online map, that is.)
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:37:30pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:38:09pm |
re: #143 sattv4u2
OK, thanks for literal LOL.
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elizajane Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:38:33pm |
re: #122 simoom
Interesting. If more or less sane people start announcing that they are not running against Obama, you have to guess that they are thinking “approval ratings up, optimism up, stock market breaks 12,000, unemployment inching down, maybe better wait to run until 2016 after Obama’s second term.”
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:38:53pm |
re: #143 sattv4u2
Moreover, she’s already with the ring. Less expenses!
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:39:01pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Is there a way to delete a facebook account?
On my Account Settings page, the last option is “Deactivate Account”. I haven’t tried it.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:39:34pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:40:24pm |
re: #129 Walter L. Newton
Popular in Paris on the Avenue des Champs-Élysée and Montmartre is the postcard scam. A middle eastern young woman will approach you, ask you if you speak English, and show you a postcard and ask you read it. It is a request by her “sister” or “mother” to raise enough money to get the sister or mother out of Iran or some place like that.
You literally have to brush them off like flies. I don’t even bother with them, but if I was to engage them, my first question would be why her Iranian sister or mother is writing a postcard to her in English?
Duh?
They do that here in CA. But they are usually non-english speakers with babies trying to feed themselves. I’ve seen that one before.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:40:59pm |
re: #140 Sergey Romanov
I had a similar scam experience. Once I was sitting in McDonalds after work with mini-laptop and a guy asked me to search for an address of the Veterans’ House. He showed me the address in a strange way - he handed me his veteran’s ID inside which was the paper with the address. I.e. this way I had to see that he is a veteran. Then while I was searching he began telling me how he fought in Afghanistan, Chechnya and I don’t remember where, now he was robbed, didn’t have money to go home (by train) etc., etc. It was all quite transparent.
One could do a book on tourist scams (and I suspect someone already has done one).
I find those kinds of incidents as much part of the cultural experience as eating the native food or trying the speak the local language.
When I travel, I always take copious notes, of people, places, odd things I see, things I perceive, facts and fancy fiction that I make up.
I like to share these short stories with people, and they become a personal catalog of info that will find itself imbedded in my plays.
I’ll have more stories (and pictures) about my 10 days in Paris over the following weeks and months… (geeesssh… is it going to take Walter months this time?)
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:41:59pm |
there was a scam that was very popular in nyc in the late 80s:
a person approaches you on the street. the first thing they do is compliment you for being such a nice person as to talk to them - “people in new york are so hard!”
so, it seems that their car broke down on the west side highway, and their “wife and little girl” are waiting down there in the car, and “those tow places are so hard hearted, they won’t even drive outta the garage for less than $40 up front!”
the clincher is supposed to be when they shove a wallet at you saying “here, i’ll give you my wallet as security”. this leverages the gain from the previous activity wherein the wallet was ‘obtained’ from some other person
i didn’t believe this story the first seven times it was tried on me…
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Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:42:08pm |
re: #107 reine.de.tout
No!
If you have and wish to write something, please do so!
Here you go. I will also E-mail it to you as well. You did get my last one I hope.
Clay Pot Chicken With Broccoli
Ingredients
4 Tbsp Flour.
3 Tsp Salt.
1 Tsp Tarragon.
1 3 lb Frying Chicken cut into serving pieces. Or 4 Skinless/Boneless Chicken Breasts.
2 Tbsp Olive Oil. (or if you prefer. Butter)
Juice of ½ Lemon.
½ pint Sour Cream
2 oz Sharp Cheddar Cheese.
1 Lb Broccoli, washed, separated and stalks removed
Ground Pepper to taste.
Now for the fun part.
Presoak the pot, top and bottom for at least 15 min. (Bathtubs work good for this).
Combine Flour, Pepper, Salt and Tarragon in a paper bag (plastic works as well).
Add Chicken parts (one at a time) and shake until fully coated
Put aside any remaining Flour mixture.
In a large frying pan, quickly brown chicken until golden.
Place browned Chicken in presoaked pot.
Pour Lemon Juice over Chicken.
In a mixing bowl, pour drippings, Sour Cream and the rest of the Flour. Mix well. It should be thick.
Pour mixture over Chicken.
Grate the Cheddar Cheese over the top *
Place covered pot in COLD oven.
Cook at 450 degrees for 25 minutes
Remove pot from oven and add Broccoli.
Place covered pot back into oven.
Cook for an additional 10 min.
* Hint- Buy pre-Grated Cheese. Saves you time.
HT to the the Authors of the Clay-Pot Cookbook. Georgia MacLeod Sales and Grover Sales. Recipe changes made without their permission
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:42:13pm |
re: #145 elizajane
you have to guess that they are thinking
Don’t think so
At this point in the game they are “thinking” two things, and two things only
A) can I raise enougth money to last the primary season (now well over a year)
B) who else is vying for the Repub nomination, and if I’m not “THE” one, will “THE” one have aplace for me
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:42:55pm |
re: #141 Sergey Romanov
What if you just walk away?
You get a shiv in your back.
Er… I really don’t know, I’ve never seen someone walk away. I see a lot of people just brushing them off before anything gets started and I saw one person get the whole scam operated on them, and it got to the point that the woman was claiming to call the police and turn the ring over to the police and tell the police that this person was attempting to take it from her.
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Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:43:09pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:45:02pm |
re: #151 engineer dog
i didn’t believe this story the first seven times it was tried on me
You must have one of those “kind” faces
“They” stay clear of me.
:)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:46:19pm |
re: #150 Walter L. Newton
Nice stories so far.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:46:48pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:48:31pm |
Ah Dad Gummit
Just got a call I have to go into work 2 hours early tonight
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darthstar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:53:14pm |
re: #159 sattv4u2
Ah Dad Gummit
Just got a call I have to go into work 2 hours early tonight
Well, I’m leaving an hour early today, so that’ll help off-set the extra time you put in.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:55:34pm |
re: #160 darthstar
Well, I’m leaving an hour early today, so that’ll help off-set the extra time you put in.
LOL
Have a co-worker
he tells us he’s going to leave an hour early, but he’ll make it up tomorrow by coming in an hour late!!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:55:37pm |
re: #158 sattv4u2
He’s a good fiction writer!
//
I will always use fictional devices when I write column like article. A foundation of facts with some fiction included to highlight, establish, heighten the storytelling process.
Think Dave Barry. Most of his stories are about factual incidents, embossed with his comic view of the incident.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:56:17pm |
re: #162 Walter L. Newton
I will always use fictional devices when I write column like article. A foundation of facts with some fiction included to highlight, establish, heighten the storytelling process.
Think Dave Barry. Most of his stories are about factual incidents, embossed with his comic view of the incident.
The best comdey always is, imho
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:56:23pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 3:57:57pm |
Dinner time
Then nap time
Then shower time
Then drive time
Then work time
(heh,,, who says my life isn’t exciting!!))
| 166 |
Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:00:44pm |
These are the people that the American religious right are aligned with:
Ugandan Who Spoke Up for Gays Is Beaten to Death
NAIROBI, Kenya — David Kato knew he was a marked man.
As the most outspoken gay rights advocate in Uganda, a country where homophobia is so severe that Parliament is considering a bill to execute gay people, Mr. Kato had received a stream of death threats, his friends said. A few months ago, a Ugandan newspaper ran an antigay diatribe with Mr. Kato’s picture on the front page under a banner urging, “Hang Them.”
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
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researchok Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:04:22pm |
re: #162 Walter L. Newton
I will always use fictional devices when I write column like article. A foundation of facts with some fiction included to highlight, establish, heighten the storytelling process.
Think Dave Barry. Most of his stories are about factual incidents, embossed with his comic view of the incident.
Walter-
Saw this, thought of you.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:08:25pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:09:27pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
Oh for F’s sake, his bullshit conspiracy theories are nowhere near that. That should be an insult.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:11:20pm |
re: #167 researchok
She should stick to writing about pussy cats.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:12:34pm |
re: #169 Dreggas
Oh for F’s sake, his bullshit conspiracy theories are nowhere near that. That should be an insult.
Watch the whole thing. Obama’s going to shut down the internet when mass violence breaks out.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:14:49pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
Tickets? Oh, that’s a good idea. ‘Cause that stops speeders all the time.
Sorry, sister of two recovering drug addicts here. Treatment. If they have to go through it 18 times before they get the point, so be it.
Yeah but there’s a world of difference between potheads and crackheads. I think an important first step would be to separate the hard stuff from the relatively harmless drugs like pot.
Really, it should just be legalized and regulated much the same way as alcohol.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:16:42pm |
Oh, here we go…
Vitter & Paul Propose Amendment To Pare Back Birthright Citizenship
Why are they wasting the country’s time on this crap? Didn’t they achieve their ‘historic victory’ (snerk) by promising to put this country back to work?
Where are the jobs?
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Kronocide Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:17:06pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
I’m developing outright contempt for Beck.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:17:55pm |
re: #174 BigPapa
I’m developing outright contempt for Beck.
I started at contempt. Right now I’m somewhere between loathing and outright hatred.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:18:55pm |
re: #174 BigPapa
I’m developing outright contempt for Beck.
I can’t watch the guy. He just pisses me off too much. I’ve never seen footage of him, even tiny clips, where he doesn’t say something fantastically hateful and ignorant.
The man is just fucking evil.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:19:51pm |
re: #174 BigPapa
I’m developing outright contempt for
Beck. the chunk of America who doesn’t seem to have any problem with what he’s saying
I don’t blame Beck anymore, he’s just the opportunist giving a face to the ignorance of a lot of America. The problem’s much deeper and more systemic than one guy
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Obdicut Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:20:50pm |
In lighter news:
Sea Captain Date
For those ladies looking for hot seamen.
For example, this charmer:
When and if we come to terms and you agree to trust me, I’ll totally control you like my ship. And I realize that trust is something earned, not taken — at least not in this society and today’s world. Therefore, this is something which you must want and desire with all your heart. Something you’ve been thinking about for a long time and hoping for. It’s just that the right captain hasn’t come along.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:21:01pm |
re: #175 makeitstop
I started at contempt. Right now I’m somewhere between loathing and outright hatred.
If we were a smarter, more educated country, Beck would still be making rubber chicken jokes on a morning show
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Kronocide Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:21:49pm |
re: #178 Obdicut
In lighter news:
For those ladies looking for hot seamen.
Um….. uh… …. er… nevermind.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:22:52pm |
re: #177 WindUpBird
I don’t blame Beck anymore, he’s just the opportunist giving a face to the ignorance of a lot of America. The problem’s much deeper and more systemic than one guy
why people waste all that drama on Beck is beyond me…freaking out because some nut says something nutty is a zero return investment….how freaked out and how often can one slam their head against a wall…I realize the newer posters have to get it out of their system…but Beck is just a symptom
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:23:00pm |
re: #179 WindUpBird
If we were a smarter, more educated country, Beck would still be making rubber chicken jokes on a morning show
And getting his butt whipped in the ratings by Howard Stern, just like every other idiot working morning drive.
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Kronocide Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:23:27pm |
“Here’s to swimmin with bow legged wimmin.”
Capt Quinn
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:25:55pm |
re: #98 EmmmieG
Tickets? Oh, that’s a good idea. ‘Cause that stops speeders all the time.
Sorry, sister of two recovering drug addicts here. Treatment. If they have to go through it 18 times before they get the point, so be it.
Pot is not a thing that America should be rhetorically lumping in with opiates. At all, for any reason. The notion is lunacy. may as well lump beer in with heroin.
I’ll take Oregon’s misdemeanor tickets for possession for pot, and I’ll leave the drug war rhetoric on the table for someone else to run with.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:26:03pm |
re: #182 makeitstop
And getting his butt whipped in the ratings by Howard Stern, just like every other idiot working morning drive.
yes :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:26:33pm |
re: #182 makeitstop
And getting his butt whipped in the ratings by Howard Stern, just like every other idiot working morning drive.
the comparison is apt: Beck is sort of using shock jock techniques and aiming at a Bircher paranoid conservative demographic.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:27:28pm |
re: #181 albusteve
why people waste all that drama on Beck is beyond me…freaking out because some nut says something nutty is a zero return investment…how freaked out and how often can one slam their head against a wall…I realize the newer posters have to get it out of their system…but Beck is just a symptom
I get pissed, but I am pissed BECAUSE he’s a symptom :D
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:28:48pm |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
Fox Nation: Gorilla Walking Upright Newest Web Sensation
The comments are just what you’d expect…
…
…
…etc
That poor little kid. Thanks God Barack Obama had better white grandparents than whoever that was.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:29:04pm |
re: #181 albusteve
why people waste all that drama on Beck is beyond me…freaking out because some nut says something nutty is a zero return investment…how freaked out and how often can one slam their head against a wall…I realize the newer posters have to get it out of their system…but Beck is just a symptom
I agree that he is a symptom of a larger problem. But, hat doesn’t make him any less contemptible.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:29:47pm |
re: #189 Fozzie Bear
… while i’m sure hats don’t diminish my ire against Beck, I meant to say “that”, not “hat”.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:29:55pm |
it seems my scanner cables have been engaging in sexual congress while in the equipment drawer again…
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:30:01pm |
re: #186 WindUpBird
the comparison is apt: Beck is sort of using shock jock techniques and aiming at a Bircher paranoid conservative demographic.
There are videos on YouTube of Beck from back in his ‘Morning Zoo’ days.
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Kronocide Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:31:05pm |
That Beck would be cracking jokes on AM drive radio in mid market time slots if this country were smarter is a very good analogy.
Instead he has risen to greatness melding conspiracy theory with shock jock schtick tempered by a Mega Church pastor’s plastic personality and delivery.
And that’s a compliment.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:34:26pm |
re: #96 simoom
So Simon & Schuster basically implied that “O” was written by some sort of insider within the Obama administration who had insights into his inner thoughts, but then it turns out:
McCain Aide Is Said to Be Author of ‘O’
From a NYT review of the book last week:
If you added the FLOTUS eating ribs all day you would have that awful Obama Diaries. book Laura Ingram wrote.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:34:46pm |
re: #173 makeitstop
Why are they wasting the country’s time on this crap?
Capitalizing on hatred to harvest votes has a long history.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:37:32pm |
re: #184 WindUpBird
Pot is not a thing that America should be rhetorically lumping in with opiates. At all, for any reason. The notion is lunacy. may as well lump beer in with heroin.
I’ll take Oregon’s misdemeanor tickets for possession for pot, and I’ll leave the drug war rhetoric on the table for someone else to run with.
pots schedule mates….
heroin, a very tiny amt of uncut smack can kill anyone but a hardcore addict…
PCP, also highly addictive, can induce some real severe psychosis, literal insanity
wtf are these people thinking?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:37:46pm |
re: #173 makeitstop
Oh, here we go…
Vitter & Paul Propose Amendment To Pare Back Birthright Citizenship
Why are they wasting the country’s time on this crap? Didn’t they achieve their ‘historic victory’ (snerk) by promising to put this country back to work?
Where are the jobs?
All of the illegal Mexican babies took them.
///
But, seriously the GOP seems to be determined to give the Democrats the Latino vote by default. I’m talking for two generations, not one.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:38:45pm |
re: #187 WindUpBird
I get pissed, but I am pissed BECAUSE he’s a symptom :D
too bad a couple of Motrin won’t alleviate him….I think the problem is semi permanent
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:40:20pm |
re: #189 Fozzie Bear
I agree that he is a symptom of a larger problem. But, hat doesn’t make him any less contemptible.
I don’t think I implied he was….my record on Beck and his pals is well documented…and a few years back I’d get trashed for trashing Fox…I didn’t just fall off the banana truck
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:43:05pm |
re: #195 Talking Point Detective
Capitalizing on hatred to harvest votes has a long history.
how do you know it’s hatred?….I think it’s a bad law, but I don’t hate anybody about it…
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:44:40pm |
re: #197 moderatelyradicalliberal
All of the illegal Mexican babies took them.
///
But, seriously the GOP seems to be determined to give the Democrats the Latino vote by default. I’m talking for two generations, not one.
Some enterprising reporter should get Marco Rubio on the record about this.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:46:49pm |
re: #181 albusteve
why people waste all that drama on Beck is beyond me…freaking out because some nut says something nutty is a zero return investment…how freaked out and how often can one slam their head against a wall…I realize the newer posters have to get it out of their system…but Beck is just a symptom
He has a lot of defenders, he is extremely popular among Tea Partiers. He is extremely influential, and plays a big role in propagandizing for extremist ideology.
I’m not sure who’s “freaking out.”
I guess the hope is that if the facts behind the lies he spews are publicized enough, any reasonable Tea Partiers will see through his shtick.
Probably a bit of an irrational hope, I admit - particularly if its based on posting his clips on a blog where he is almost universally despised; but, the alternative to that hope is a bleak acceptance that we are powerless to do anything about his lies.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:49:21pm |
re: #201 makeitstop
Some enterprising reporter should get Marco Rubio on the record about this.
the scramble for the Hispanic vote is going to bring out the worst hypocrisies of the new century…clearly there is an honest humanitarian aspect but so is there the idea that they are being bought for their labor as well as future votes….the whole thing sucks
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:49:28pm |
re: #200 albusteve
how do you know it’s hatred?…I think it’s a bad law, but I don’t hate anybody about it…
You don’t think that the point of the law is to capitalize politically on hatred of illegal aliens?
Do you seriously think that politicians trying to re-write the Constitution are doing so because they actually believe that children born here attaining citizenship represents any real threat in any way whatsoever?
| 205 |
Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:50:18pm |
re: #202 Talking Point Detective
Probably a bit of an irrational hope, I admit - particularly if its based on posting his clips on a blog where he is almost universally despised; but, the alternative to that hope is a bleak acceptance that we are powerless to do anything about his lies.
Well, we are preachig to the choir here, but we all have friends and/or relatives caught up in his cult, and good information can sometimes break the spell.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:50:41pm |
re: #202 Talking Point Detective
He has a lot of defenders, he is extremely popular among Tea Partiers. He is extremely influential, and plays a big role in propagandizing for extremist ideology.
I’m not sure who’s “freaking out.”
I guess the hope is that if the facts behind the lies he spews are publicized enough, any reasonable Tea Partiers will see through his shtick.
Probably a bit of an irrational hope, I admit - particularly if its based on posting his clips on a blog where he is almost universally despised; but, the alternative to that hope is a bleak acceptance that we are powerless to do anything about his lies.
yes, well I’ve heard all that about a thousand times….it’s old news around here
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:53:50pm |
re: #204 Talking Point Detective
You don’t think that the point of the law is to capitalize politically on hatred of illegal aliens?
Do you seriously think that politicians trying to re-write the Constitution are doing so because they actually believe that children born here attaining citizenship represents any real threat in any way whatsoever?
no, not necessarily…I don’t believe Americans as a whole are as hateful as you want them to be….but if they are it certainly reinforces your POV right?….stereotyping to shore up a point, be careful bro
| 208 |
prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:54:33pm |
Jay Carney will be the new White House Press Secretary:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:55:29pm |
re: #205 Fozzie Bear
Well, we are preachig to the choir here, but we all have friends and/or relatives caught up in his cult, and good information can sometimes break the spell.
which is precisely why I despise Steele so much…as a spokesman for the GOP, he caved when this thing was smaller and maybe manageable….he’s a bootlicker
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:55:55pm |
re: #201 makeitstop
Some enterprising reporter should get Marco Rubio on the record about this.
I think Harry Reid should allow it to come up for a vote and then we’ll have Rubio and every other Senator on the record about this. I wonder if he’s talked to Vitter and Paul about just how terrible a position this puts him in. I wonder if he’s brought up the fact that if this bill was retroactive he wouldn’t be a citizen either.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:56:07pm |
re: #206 albusteve
yes, well I’ve heard all that about a thousand times…it’s old news around here
You asked why people talk about Beck on this kind of a blog, and I’m speculating about a possible explanation.
But you said that people were “freaking out.” I don’t agree.
And he isn’t just a nut - he is an extremely influential media figure.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:57:10pm |
re: #211 Talking Point Detective
You asked why people talk about Beck on this kind of a blog, and I’m speculating about a possible explanation.
But you said that people were “freaking out.” I don’t agree.
And he isn’t just a nut - he is an extremely influential media figure.
if you slap your head too often, you’ll get warts
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moderatelyradicalliberal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:58:00pm |
re: #209 albusteve
which is precisely why I despise Steele so much…as a spokesman for the GOP, he caved when this thing was smaller and maybe manageable…he’s a bootlicker
And then he got the boot for all of his troubles. I guess their was no longer a need for a black face once the GOP decided it would be profitable to play pussyfoot with racists again.
Now that they are bringing up birthright citizenship again, I guess they don’t need Rubio anymore either.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:58:12pm |
re: #212 albusteve
if you slap your head too often, you’ll get warts
I’ve only slapped my head twice about Glenn Beck - no warts yet.
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 4:58:31pm |
re: #210 moderatelyradicalliberal
I think Harry Reid should allow it to come up for a vote and then we’ll have Rubio and every other Senator on the record about this. I wonder if he’s talked to Vitter and Paul about just how terrible a position this puts him in. I wonder if he’s brought up the fact that if this bill was retroactive he wouldn’t be a citizen either.
I’m wondering id either one of those geniuses have spent a second’s thought on the size of the bureaucracy that would be required to enforce the amendment in the one-in-a-billion chance it was ever adopted.
It would probably take a nice bite out of Curly’s $500 billion in budget cuts.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:00:31pm |
re: #210 moderatelyradicalliberal
I think Harry Reid should allow it to come up for a vote and then we’ll have Rubio and every other Senator on the record about this. I wonder if he’s talked to Vitter and Paul about just how terrible a position this puts him in. I wonder if he’s brought up the fact that if this bill was retroactive he wouldn’t be a citizen either.
That would be an extremely good strategy.
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Skeetghazi Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:01:08pm |
re: #210 moderatelyradicalliberal
I think Harry Reid should allow it to come up for a vote and then we’ll have Rubio and every other Senator on the record about this. I wonder if he’s talked to Vitter and Paul about just how terrible a position this puts him in. I wonder if he’s brought up the fact that if this bill was retroactive he wouldn’t be a citizen either.
He’d make the excuse that CUBA is different. Heard it before.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:01:17pm |
re: #213 moderatelyradicalliberal
And then he got the boot for all of his troubles. I guess their was no longer a need for a black face once the GOP decided it would be profitable to play pussyfoot with racists again.
Now that they are bringing up birthright citizenship again, I guess they don’t need Rubio anymore either.
he was a terrible money manager and fund raiser too…I don’t think his race had anything to do with it…but he did have poor taste in shoes
| 219 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:02:12pm |
re: #214 Talking Point Detective
I’ve only slapped my head twice about Glenn Beck - no warts yet.
yeah, but did you have to look?…did you?
be honest
| 220 |
What, me worry? Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:02:24pm |
re: #211 Talking Point Detective
You asked why people talk about Beck on this kind of a blog, and I’m speculating about a possible explanation.
But you said that people were “freaking out.” I don’t agree.
And he isn’t just a nut - he is an extremely influential media figure.
I’m all about yelling and screaming from the rafters at the site of injustice, lies or propaganda. How much harm has been done in history by ignoring, turning away and not paying attention?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:04:54pm |
re: #181 albusteve
why people waste all that drama on Beck is beyond me…freaking out because some nut says something nutty is a zero return investment…how freaked out and how often can one slam their head against a wall…I realize the newer posters have to get it out of their system…but Beck is just a symptom
Well there are a couple reasons. The woman is getting death threats and Beck’s fans have already made assassination attempts at the Tide Foundation. I may not like her politics but to ascribe last week’s police violence is absurd.
More importantly she’s not as evil as Bin Laden. If Republicans really start to believe this stuff (which they might eventually) then they it would become their duty to remove these people from society. There are people who would love to restart McCarthy era policies and arrest all the communists and the Jewish Mind Controlers.
Beck’s rhetoric is very dangerous.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:06:46pm |
So, the people who want a smaller, more intrusive government want to implement a system by which the parents of every child born in the country have to submit to screening to determine if they are legal residents so that we can keep track of who the “illegal” children are?
Do I have this correct?
These people are fucking crazy.
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:07:54pm |
re: #222 Fozzie Bear
I meant to say less intrusive, but this works too.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:08:04pm |
re: #196 albusteve
pots schedule mates…
heroin, a very tiny amt of uncut smack can kill anyone but a hardcore addict…
PCP, also highly addictive, can induce some real severe psychosis, literal insanity
wtf are these people thinking?
It’s simple. Back in the 30’s white kids discovered it. And since it was something they learned from the black community (along with jazz, blues & dancing suggestively) it had to be demonized (“Reefer Madness”) and criminalized. The attitudes solidified then still keep it’s very real medicinal benefits from being acknowledged by the Feds.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:09:02pm |
re: #221 Killgore Trout
Well there are a couple reasons. The woman is getting death threats and Beck’s fans have already made assassination attempts at the Tide Foundation. I may not like her politics but to ascribe last week’s police violence is absurd.
More importantly she’s not as evil as Bin Laden. If Republicans really start to believe this stuff (which they might eventually) then they it would become their duty to remove these people from society. There are people who would love to restart McCarthy era policies and arrest all the communists and the Jewish Mind Controlers.
Beck’s rhetoric is very dangerous.
agreed, but I still think it’s up to Beck to rein himself in…of course there is an outside chance he will trip over his own hysteria…but for every discussion we’ve had, I don’t recall a solution to the problem that can be induced….he’s a real pro with his verbage
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:09:12pm |
re: #224 wlewisiii
It’s amazing how many of our country’s problems ultimately trace back to institutionalized racism.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:12:07pm |
re: #225 albusteve
agreed, but I still think it’s up to Beck to rein himself in…of course there is an outside chance he will trip over his own hysteria…but for every discussion we’ve had, I don’t recall a solution to the problem that can be induced…he’s a real pro with his verbage
Why should he do that? He’ll never do that. Neither will Rush.
It’s up to the rest of us to point out how insane he is.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:12:37pm |
re: #225 albusteve
agreed, but I still think it’s up to Beck to rein himself in…of course there is an outside chance he will trip over his own hysteria…but for every discussion we’ve had, I don’t recall a solution to the problem that can be induced…he’s a real pro with his verbage
I don’t think there’s anything that can be done aside from general mockery but I think it’s going to be pretty effective. The next Republican candidate is going to be asked questions about the New World Order and Cloward Piven by some lefty reporter and the candidate will have to denounce Glenn Beck or appear to be a conspiracy loon. A smart Republican would dodge the question. Palin ain’t that smart.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:13:26pm |
re: #226 Fozzie Bear
It’s amazing how many of our country’s problems ultimately trace back to institutionalized racism.
widespread belief in the south, that booze or reefer will drive blacks to rape white women, an indisputable biological fact….that they didn’t, never fazed the believers
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:13:49pm |
re: #227 marjoriemoon
Why should he do that? He’ll never do that. Neither will Rush.
It’s up to the rest of us to point out how insane he is.
Agreed. He’ll go away when the wingnuts wake up and get tired of being mocked as conspiracy loons.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:14:12pm |
Is it inappropriate to suggest a relief and high jack this into a Boob,Guns and Beer thread….?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:14:18pm |
re: #227 marjoriemoon
Why should he do that? He’ll never do that. Neither will Rush.
It’s up to the rest of us to point out how insane he is.
to each other here?…okay
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:15:45pm |
re: #231 reloadingisnotahobby
Is it inappropriate to suggest a relief and high jack this into a Boob,Guns and Beer thread…?
I have two of the those already handled…
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makeitstop Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:17:00pm |
re: #233 reloadingisnotahobby
I have two of the those already handled…
Two of the three, or two of those?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:17:52pm |
re: #228 Killgore Trout
I don’t think there’s anything that can be done aside from general mockery but I think it’s going to be pretty effective. The next Republican candidate is going to be asked questions about the New World Order and Cloward Piven by some lefty reporter and the candidate will have to denounce Glenn Beck or appear to be a conspiracy loon. A smart Republican would dodge the question. Palin ain’t that smart.
well, we’ve all been waiting the long wait for the elections of 2012…should be a doozie, and I hope you are right and the chickens will come home to roost…it would not surprise me tho, if that is not the case….in other words, how long is the stupid scale?…maybe it’s infinite
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:18:08pm |
Hey all,
WE did end-up getting a bit of show this morning in my part of Chicagoland.
how is everyone this evening?
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Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:19:04pm |
re: #230 Killgore Trout
Agreed. He’ll go away when the wingnuts wake up and get tired of being mocked as conspiracy loons.
In their circle they aren’t the ones being mocked, and it is unlikely they ever will. This is doubly true given that the way we get our information is now so fragmented and compartmentalized. You can get all your news now from wingnut sources, without ever having to contend with challenges to that kind of thinking.
I think if we had more of a singular culture (as we did for much of the 20th century), what you say would be the case. But we don’t. This country is dividing into separate subcultures which increasingly don’t overlap or interact nearly as much as subcultures of past eras.
I think this makes the current cultural and political situation in the US volatile, and it’s also hard to find any kind of precedent for it historically. The cultural changes we are undergoing now are, I think, due largely to technological changes. We don’t communicate the way we used to, and that fact is driving cultural change right now.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:22:19pm |
Since this thread is well established and I don’t have a chance making any meaningful contribution, I”m going upstairs.
See everyone there!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:23:42pm |
Has anyone posted that nice Emanuel boy is back on the ballot?
[Link: www.cnn.com…]
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Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:26:09pm |
Lizards. Time to call it a day. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.
Yeah, I know it’s Cheesy, But What the the Hell.
Something I think My Lady would like.
A couple of songs I sent Her when I was serving on the Boat(s).
As well as this one.
Night.
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Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 5:31:44pm |
re: #237 Fozzie Bear
In their circle they aren’t the ones being mocked, and it is unlikely they ever will. This is doubly true given that the way we get our information is now so fragmented and compartmentalized. You can get all your news now from wingnut sources, without ever having to contend with challenges to that kind of thinking.
I think if we had more of a singular culture (as we did for much of the 20th century), what you say would be the case. But we don’t. This country is dividing into separate subcultures which increasingly don’t overlap or interact nearly as much as subcultures of past eras.
I think this makes the current cultural and political situation in the US volatile, and it’s also hard to find any kind of precedent for it historically. The cultural changes we are undergoing now are, I think, due largely to technological changes. We don’t communicate the way we used to, and that fact is driving cultural change right now.
That’s an interesting question - just how much does our new technology create an unprecedented situation…..
We have certainly had lies and propaganda and vitriolic rhetoric throughout our existence. And media has long played a very influential role in controlling information, and as a consequence, the scope of the dialog. We could argue that McCarthy had a much more malignant affect than Beck ever will.
It certainly does feel as if something is fundamentally different - but I would imagine that our parents and grandparents felt similarly about how the environment they grew up in were different than that of their predecessors.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 27, 2011 6:40:54pm |
re: #240 Bubblehead II
I will confess here on a dead thread that hopefully no one will read…
I was in love with Peter Criss.
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Ghost Of The Mare Island Mud Puppy Thu, Jan 27, 2011 7:30:32pm |
re: #242 marjoriemoon
I will confess here on a dead thread that hopefully no one will read…
I was in love with Peter Criss.
No shame in that. I wanted to boff Grace Slick.
As well as every other female Blonde hair singer.
Teenage Hormones. A curse/blessing in disguise.
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