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We shall be judged by what we do, not by how we felt while we were doing it.
— Kenneth Tynan
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Kronocide Mon, Feb 7, 2011 10:39:23pm |
What about how we made other feel when we did it?
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The Yankee Mon, Feb 7, 2011 10:53:38pm |
This quote sounds like it was about sex to me.
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Kragar Mon, Feb 7, 2011 10:54:27pm |
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:05:11pm |
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Querent Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:06:04pm |
is this where everybody is now?
(except for the ones who are in bed?)
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:24:50pm |
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:25:20pm |
Wael is the Google guy who was arrested and held throughout the week.
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:27:34pm |
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:33:07pm |
waelabbas Wael Abbas
by ioerror
yesterday I yelled at an American journalist on the phone : “this revolution has no Khomeini”
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:35:32pm |
AJEnglish Al Jazeera English
Mass rallies planned in Egypt: Pro-democracy supporters gear up for new demonstrations in Cairo, just hours afte… [Link: aje.me…]
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:36:08pm |
just hours afte…r
The release of Google exec
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palomino Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:47:24pm |
re: #13 Stanley Sea
AJEnglish Al Jazeera English
Mass rallies planned in Egypt: Pro-democracy supporters gear up for new demonstrations in Cairo, just hours afte… [Link: aje.me…]
I think even most Republicans are supportive of the pro-democracy protesters and Obama’s approach generally. Of course there are the extreme nuts like Beck and Palin and other irrelevant folks who aren’t even in office. But the usual nuts in the GOP realize that America doesn’t stand for much if it can’t come down clearly on the side of democracy.
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Skeetghazi Mon, Feb 7, 2011 11:52:44pm |
re: #15 palomino
I think even most Republicans are supportive of the pro-democracy protesters and Obama’s approach generally. Of course there are the extreme nuts like Beck and Palin and other irrelevant folks who aren’t even in office. But the usual nuts in the GOP realize that America doesn’t stand for much if it can’t come down clearly on the side of democracy.
It’s a dilemma for them.
Here’s a post from another blog I stole
Remember, these are Sunni Muslims, they are not Shia like the folks in Iran. Iranians aren’t even being allowed into Egypt right now, I can tell you from personal knowledge.
There have been beautiful stories out of Egypt which demonstrate a respectful and harmonious relationship between Christians and Muslims in this time of crisis. Doubt that would be happening if the Muslim Brotherhood were determined to take over the world, as Glenn Beck would have you believe.
We need to get past the paranoia and the stereotyping.
I’m cutting and pasting this comment from another blog.
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palomino Tue, Feb 8, 2011 12:11:04am |
re: #16 Stanley Sea
It’s a dilemma for them.
Here’s a post from another blog I stole
Remember, these are Sunni Muslims, they are not Shia like the folks in Iran. Iranians aren’t even being allowed into Egypt right now, I can tell you from personal knowledge.
There have been beautiful stories out of Egypt which demonstrate a respectful and harmonious relationship between Christians and Muslims in this time of crisis. Doubt that would be happening if the Muslim Brotherhood were determined to take over the world, as Glenn Beck would have you believe.
We need to get past the paranoia and the stereotyping.
I’m cutting and pasting this comment from another blog.
But Beck needs the Muslim Brotherhood, just like he needs Hitler, Stalin, et al. These are the bogeymen in his fearmongering act. And, in spite of all his elaborate looking blackboards and charts, Beck doesn’t do nuance at all. So his coverage of Egypt, like everything else, is broken down into pure good and evil. It’s total horseshit analysis, not at all suitable for a complex world.
The moderate Republicans here seem to think that the GOP is coming to its senses and will soon repudiate Beck and others like him. But there’s not a chance of that as long as Beck drives traffic, ie, gets the word out that Dems are devils.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 1:00:23am |
One more piece of evidence that Sarah Palin™ is not a statesman or even a politician, but a Hollywood Celeb:
Sarah, Bristol Palin seeking to trademark names
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and “Dancing with the Stars” finalist Bristol Palin are attempting to trademark “Sarah Palin®” and “Bristol Palin®,” reports Politics Daily.
Palin family attorney Thomas Van Flein registered for a “Sarah Palin” trademark three days after the 2010 midterm elections. A “Bristol Palin” application was filed five days prior to the “Dancing With the Stars” Sept. 20 season premiere.
It’s common for celebrities to trademark their names to protect their brand or image from those who may try to make money off their name, but trademark attorneys say this is a rare move for political figures. […]
The application for “Sarah Palin” has two classes of commercial service for which her name would be trademarked. The first is for “information about political elections” and “providing a website featuring information about political issues” and the second is for “educational and entertainment services … providing motivational speaking services in the field of politics, culture, business and values.”
[…]
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Kragar Tue, Feb 8, 2011 1:07:57am |
re: #19 freetoken
One more piece of evidence that Sarah Palin™ is not a statesman or even a politician, but a Hollywood Celeb:
Can we get by trademarks if we just name her the Dipshit formerly known as Governor?
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:08:53am |
A little bit of Bruch to see us through the still of the night:
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:18:08am |
It is ironic how the West seeks democracy in the Middle East, but when democracy actually happens they want stability instead.
/favorite tweet
/also good evening
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:24:25am |
re: #23 laZardo
It is ironic how the West seeks democracy in the Middle East, but when democracy actually happens they want stability instead.
/favorite tweet
/also good evening
We can’t have them democratized until we bomb the crap out of them first.
///
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:37:50am |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:41:58am |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:46:23am |
Hey, sleep well.
For you.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:48:34am |
re: #25 laZardo
If only Walken would have a cooking show… it’d be a hit.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 3:16:52am |
I missed this when it first came out, but PZed picked it up yesterday… very funny, and shows the power of comics to communicate based on a mixture of words and images.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 3:23:48am |
re: #32 freetoken
I missed this when it first came out, but PZed picked it up yesterday… very funny, and shows the power of comics to communicate based on a mixture of words and images.
There’s something hilariously ironic about The Sunset Rising ad just above it. “Nothing is ever black or white.”
/or maybe it’s just my 4chan race-joke sense tingling.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:00:11am |
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:03:46am |
So, I’ve been wondering if I should go back to school, as my other plans just haven’t come to fruition, and look like they never will.
Academia is so bad - it specializes in killing interests.
Plus it is a rip-off.
Textbooks doubly triply so.
Yet I always regretted not getting the Ph.D. Probably I’m just going through a late mid-life could-a-would-a-should-a phase…
Anyway, as I’m checking out what’s what in colleges these days I’m astonished at the prices. Now, graduate students normally depend upon stipends, but with the revanchist dominated GOP wanting to deep six the government support for R&D and education I think many schools will be in trouble.
In looking at graduate school acceptance/application ratios for the past year I notice a tremendous number of schools have a very low acceptance rate - applications look like they really went up during the recession.
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researchok Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:05:41am |
re: #39 freetoken
So, I’ve been wondering if I should go back to school, as my other plans just haven’t come to fruition, and look like they never will.
Academia is so bad - it specializes in killing interests.
Plus it is a rip-off.
Textbooks
doublytriply so.Yet I always regretted not getting the Ph.D. Probably I’m just going through a late mid-life could-a-would-a-should-a phase…
Anyway, as I’m checking out what’s what in colleges these days I’m astonished at the prices. Now, graduate students normally depend upon stipends, but with the revanchist dominated GOP wanting to deep six the government support for R&D and education I think many schools will be in trouble.
In looking at graduate school acceptance/application ratios for the past year I notice a tremendous number of schools have a very low acceptance rate - applications look like they really went up during the recession.
What area are you interested in?
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:07:23am |
re: #40 researchok
What area are you interested in?
Money, sex, and power.
Not necessarily always in that order.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:07:43am |
re: #38 freetoken
And speaking of Japan and good mornings…here’s their answer to the Powerpuff Girls.
Yes, it was actually broadcast.
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researchok Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:10:40am |
re: #41 freetoken
Money, sex, and power.
Not necessarily always in that order.
How about Behavioral economics?
Its a big deal nowadays and getting bigger.
The Marketplace of Perceptions
Behavioral economics explains why we procrastinate, buy, borrow, and grab chocolate on the spur of the moment
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:13:19am |
re: #40 researchok
Seriously, I think one problem I now face is that the subjects I wish I would have studied, and wanted to at the time (such as astronomy or paleontology) I shied from because I felt I needed to get a job rather than follow my interests. So I got a job after by BS… then went back to school and got an MS, in another field (actually subspecialty) in which I was mostly driven to because of work.
It’s one of those things I now understand later in life - and about which many great authors in the past have written - is that the biggest regrets in life tend to be about those things we didn’t do, rather than the things we did do.
Unfortunately, I can’t stop time (I’ve tried…) My mental capacities aren’t what they used to be when I was younger, at least in quantitative skills. My verbal skills have increased with age, but that is not unusual.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:15:42am |
re: #43 researchok
How about Behavioral economics?
Its a big deal nowadays and getting bigger.
The Marketplace of Perceptions
Behavioral economics explains why we procrastinate, buy, borrow, and grab chocolate on the spur of the moment
SUBLIMINAL MARKETIIIING~
/skimming through it, lol’d at “France hates America more than Vietnam does.”
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:16:01am |
re: #42 laZardo
Yes, it was actually broadcast.
Wouldn’t surprise me.
I miss Japan, but all my longings to return haven’t netted me a way to get back there. The problem is one just can’t immigrate there - they don’t want you to stay.
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Obdicut Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:16:37am |
re: #46 freetoken
Marry a Japanese women. There’s a lot of them over there.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:16:48am |
re: #43 researchok
I’d probably just end up writing long papers about the sins of capitalism.
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researchok Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:18:13am |
re: #44 freetoken
Seriously, I think one problem I now face is that the subjects I wish I would have studied, and wanted to at the time (such as astronomy or paleontology) I shied from because I felt I needed to get a job rather than follow my interests. So I got a job after by BS… then went back to school and got an MS, in another field (actually subspecialty) in which I was mostly driven to because of work.
It’s one of those things I now understand later in life - and about which many great authors in the past have written - is that the biggest regrets in life tend to be about those things we didn’t do, rather than the things we did do.
Unfortunately, I can’t stop time (I’ve tried…) My mental capacities aren’t what they used to be when I was younger, at least in quantitative skills. My verbal skills have increased with age, but that is not unusual.
Go with your gut or step out into the realm of the unknown. Either way, and with anything you choose, teaching becomes an option if you can’t find what you are looking for in the new field.
Transmit the passion. There is a real need for that.
As for regrets, not acting on them is the real tragedy.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:19:55am |
re: #47 Obdicut
Looking back, I think I’ve broken a few hearts here or there.
The truth is, once married the Gaijin male ends up complaining about… being outside of society, of the high expectations of the women for support (I can support myself, but a Gaijin finding a job paying well enough to support what a Japanese woman would expect of marrying an American… no, not going to put myself through that.)
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:21:56am |
re: #50 freetoken
Looking back, I think I’ve broken a few hearts here or there.
The truth is, once married the Gaijin male ends up complaining about… being outside of society, of the high expectations of the women for support (I can support myself, but a Gaijin finding a job paying well enough to support what a Japanese woman would expect of marrying an American… no, not going to put myself through that.)
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:26:33am |
re: #49 researchok
Thanks for the encouragement…
My gut is not very trustworthy, I’m afraid I’ve discovered over these past several decades.
Oh, tactically my instincts are pretty good. Strategically though… I’ve realized (again, what great writers have put down before me…) that I can’t escape my own character - my own personality. While that sounds like something that ought to be obvious, to discover it through life seems to give it more weight.
As for teaching…. one thing I thought about doing is some volunteer tutoring locally. There are several programs in the San Diego area that advertise needing such. I thought about doing math - since that is something most people avoid. Then I checked out the requirements… what a mess. It’s like the bureaucratic rot that infests most of “education” has seeped into the volunteer organizations.
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freetoken Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:32:45am |
I’ll leave you all with an golden old school replay:
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researchok Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:32:59am |
re: #52 freetoken
Thanks for the encouragement…
My gut is not very trustworthy, I’m afraid I’ve discovered over these past several decades.
Oh, tactically my instincts are pretty good. Strategically though… I’ve realized (again, what great writers have put down before me…) that I can’t escape my own character - my own personality. While that sounds like something that ought to be obvious, to discover it through life seems to give it more weight.
As for teaching… one thing I thought about doing is some volunteer tutoring locally. There are several programs in the San Diego area that advertise needing such. I thought about doing math - since that is something most people avoid. Then I checked out the requirements… what a mess. It’s like the bureaucratic rot that infests most of “education” has seeped into the volunteer organizations.
Maybe you could start ‘local’ with non profits close to home (churches, Boys and Girls Club, Y’s, etc.). Or get on board with one of those online homework helper sites.
All great journeys, first steps, like that.
I suspect there are a lot of poor kids who would benefit greatly.
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Obdicut Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:33:48am |
re: #50 freetoken
Marry a Burakumin woman, and become a civil rights activist.
You two would make a very-well-ostracized couple.
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rwdflynavy Tue, Feb 8, 2011 4:37:22am |
I went to see the Doctor of Philosophy
with a poster of Rasputin and a beard down to his knee.
He never did marry or see a B-Grade movie.
He graded my performance, he said he could see through me.
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind,
got my paper and I was free
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:03:21am |
re: #42 laZardo
And speaking of Japan and good mornings…here’s their answer to the Powerpuff Girls.
[Video]Yes, it was actually broadcast.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:12:20am |
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:14:43am |
We shall be judged by what we do, not by how we felt while we were doing it.
— Kenneth Tynan
True enough, but
“This, above all, is the greatest treason;
To do the right thing for the wrong reason.”
—TS
‘Morning, all
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:20:47am |
re: #59 Varek Raith
:P
Semantics.
Being anti-Semantic is all part of a Grammar Nazi’s job requirement.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:21:21am |
re: #61 laZardo
Being anti-Semantic is all part of a Grammar Nazi’s job requirement.
Ok, you win.
XD
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:32:55am |
re: #52 freetoken
Thanks for the encouragement…
My gut is not very trustworthy, I’m afraid I’ve discovered over these past several decades.
Oh, tactically my instincts are pretty good. Strategically though… I’ve realized (again, what great writers have put down before me…) that I can’t escape my own character - my own personality. While that sounds like something that ought to be obvious, to discover it through life seems to give it more weight.
As for teaching… one thing I thought about doing is some volunteer tutoring locally. There are several programs in the San Diego area that advertise needing such. I thought about doing math - since that is something most people avoid. Then I checked out the requirements… what a mess. It’s like the bureaucratic rot that infests most of “education” has seeped into the volunteer organizations.
Much of the bureaucracy in education is intended to keep adults from damaging valuable, vulnerable children. A volunteer’s way around that is to teach non-valuable adults. A whole lot of people in jails can’t read. Just breaking that wall makes tremendous difference. Expect to fail 19 times out of 20, though. (Daughter teaches in a youth prison. She is absolutely the last chance for some of them.)
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:35:48am |
re: #63 Decatur Deb
Much of the bureaucracy in education is intended to keep adults from damaging valuable, vulnerable children. A volunteer’s way around that is to teach non-valuable adults. A whole lot of people in jails can’t read. Just breaking that wall makes tremendous difference. Expect to fail 19 times out of 20, though. (Daughter teaches in a youth prison. She is absolutely the last chance for some of them.)
And bring lubricant for the 20th.
/yeah, not in the most hopeful of moods tonight
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iossarian Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:40:35am |
Sometimes I think that the GOP’s “small government” claim is only hypocritical in that they want to regulate every aspect of people’s private life, while leaving business unregulated.
Then, something like this happens, to remind me that no, they’re just hypocritical full stop. See, it depends on what kind of business it is:
Wisconsin Tea Party governor plans to decimate state wind power industry
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:43:16am |
re: #64 laZardo
And bring lubricant for the 20th.
/yeah, not in the most hopeful of moods tonight
I’m very pleasantly shocked at how well her prison is run (It’s a multi-county lockup in Alabama). After the Florida Boot-Camp fatality, CNN visited her place and several other youth prisons. In hers they came, left, and never mentioned it in their piece.) The prisoners run from 9 to 18, and they are kept safe by giving them a rigid control that would not be possible or legal in “big-boy jail”. Drugs, gangs, and suicide are the big worries.
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Lidane Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:47:28am |
re: #65 iossarian
Well, yeah. We can’t have wind power. That way lies madness. We need solid, non-hippie energy like coal and oil, don’tcha know. It’s what God intended. =P
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:52:11am |
re: #65 iossarian
Walker’s plan calls for wind turbines to be built at a distance of 1,800 feet from the nearest property line. Currently, turbines must be built at least 1,250 feet away.
Curious, what are the regs for other forms of power production?
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iossarian Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:53:29am |
Great comment over at the Guardian (lizards may remember the comment joy that accompanied Charles’s piece there a while back):
Thus our government complete the destruction of Britain and the impoverishment of the British people, begun in the 11th century by the Norman invaders, entrenched by the farce at Runnymeade, accelerated by the enclosures of the 17th and 18th centuries, endorsed by every government since 1979. The corporate raiders complete the task begun with the longboat and the axe, of transferring what little remains of our wealth to a foreign elite. Cameron is the heir of the Normans and Angevins, the Tudors and the Stuarts, and has as little allegience to our country. We must rise up and throw off the yoke of those who have oppressed us for a millenium, and now seek to strip us bare, to suck our blood. To them we are a resource to be exploited, something less than human. We need a bold and patriotic leader to overthrow the government, and to lead us into a new world of freedom.
Recommended by 170 people!
The article is interesting for people wanting to keep abreast of right-wing economic atrocities elsewhere in the world:
Conservatives to slash taxes on large financial organizations
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iossarian Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:55:25am |
re: #68 Varek Raith
Curious, what are the regs for other forms of power production?
That’s a good question. My point is, the regulations might very well be reasonable (though the article does suggest that they would be the among the toughest of current state laws on this kind of thing). It’s the hypocrisy of claiming that you want government to “get out of the way”, and then pulling this kind of stunt, that kills me.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:56:23am |
re: #71 iossarian
That’s a good question. My point is, the regulations might very well be reasonable (though the article does suggest that they would be the among the toughest of current state laws on this kind of thing). It’s the hypocrisy of claiming that you want government to “get out of the way”, and then pulling this kind of stunt, that kills me.
Aye, that’s true.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:56:33am |
re: #69 iossarian
Great comment over at the Guardian (lizards may remember the comment joy that accompanied Charles’s piece there a while back):
Recommended by 170 people!
The article is interesting for people wanting to keep abreast of right-wing economic atrocities elsewhere in the world:
Conservatives to slash taxes on large financial organizations
It must be difficult to be a RW throwback in Britain—the Tea Party meme just won’t carry the day.
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Obdicut Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:56:46am |
re: #68 Varek Raith
Curious, what are the regs for other forms of power production?
They’re not really comparable, though. Coal power causes huge environmental damage, but it can be placed far away from other properties. The damage done by coal power is pervasive throughout the environment. Any putative problems with wind would be purely local.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:58:55am |
I’ve never fully repaired the damage the school system inflicted on me. It decided I was uneducable when I was nine and their efforts on my behalf reflected that decision.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 5:59:23am |
Good Morning all!
The world didn’t fall apart in the night did it?
How is everyone?
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iossarian Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:03:00am |
re: #73 Decatur Deb
It must be difficult to be a RW throwback in Britain—the Tea Party meme just won’t carry the day.
It’s true that, on balance, everyone in the UK is probably slightly more left-wing economically than their counterparts in the US. But the electoral strategy/appeal of a right-wing government is remarkably similar (wealthy elite wanting lower taxes, populist base wanting fewer services for “sponging” minorities etc.).
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:08:08am |
re: #75 Romantic Heretic
I’ve never fully repaired the damage the school system inflicted on me. It decided I was uneducable when I was nine and their efforts on my behalf reflected that decision.
Stinks. Our nuns were a little rough, but none of our delinquents ever left the school without the basics.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:11:42am |
re: #75 Romantic Heretic
I’ve never fully repaired the damage the school system inflicted on me. It decided I was uneducable when I was nine and their efforts on my behalf reflected that decision.
Could be worse. I was a middle-class kid in a rich kids’ school and I forced myself to go as far as I could until I couldn’t take it no’ mo’.
About the only life skill I really learned there is that money =/= education.
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mr.fusion Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:13:10am |
Since it’s an open thread, thought I’d throw this up there
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:16:02am |
re: #80 mr.fusion
Since it’s an open thread, thought I’d throw this up there
Could be ideologically-driven hate crime. Could be two drunks arguing in a bar.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:17:01am |
Bath Salts? WTF?
Why can’t the chillens just smoke dope like we did?
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:17:37am |
re: #82 ggt
Bath Salts? WTF?
Why can’t the chillens just smoke dope like we did?
As I might have mentioned before…at least they’re not huffing jenkem. ;3
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:18:25am |
re: #82 ggt
Bath Salts? WTF?
Why can’t the chillens just smoke dope like we did?
Did you miss the dried-banana-fiber phase, or the nutmeg plague?
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:25:20am |
Two U.S. Teens Among Three Killed In Mexico
The school principal said Gonzalez Bermudez mainly lived in Ciudad Juarez and commuted each day across the border. He said 20 percent of the 485 students enrolled at Cathedral are from Ciudad Juarez.
I wonder how that sits with the immigration Whackos?
I really didn’t realize that kids crossed the border to attend school. And, they aren’t scamming on the public school system.
A lot of bad stuff happening on the border recently.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:25:32am |
re: #83 laZardo
As I might have mentioned before…at least they’re not huffing jenkem. ;3
If you’re ever feeling too optimistic, rent Gaviria’s “The Rose Seller”. It has a neat hidden surprise.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:25:37am |
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Political Atheist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:27:51am |
Now this is a surprise
Excerpt
A handful of moderate Senate Democrats are looking for ways to roll back the highly contentious individual mandate — the pillar of President Barack Obama’s health care law — a sign that red-state senators are prepared to assert their independence ahead of the 2012 elections.
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com…]
They would be better off with tax and benefit, as I strongly suspect the SCOTUS is not willing go for the mandate. Huge slippery slope there, IMO. Of course the legislature is best positioned to force severability so we do not toss the “baby with the bathwater”.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:29:26am |
re: #87 ggt
Must have.
Alternate recreational smokes in the 60-70’s. Experimentation was usually driven by crackdowns or supply-chain “panics”. (If they worked at all, it wasn’t worth the nausea.)
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:29:46am |
ahahahahahahahahaha!
Blagojevich Claims Conversation Record ‘Missing’
“The fourth and final phone call is the call that is mysteriously missing,” it adds. “Piecing together multiple documents after the first trial, Blagojevich uncovered the fact that the December 8th phone call … took place.”
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Political Atheist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:32:38am |
re: #85 ggt
It’s a shame the noise and fury about immigration policy and the reactions of border residents (minutemen etc) clouds the real deadly issues at hand. Like the unnecessary skepticism aimed at the poor lady whose husband was shot & killed on the lake as they enjoyed a day on their watercraft.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:36:43am |
Amid Protests, Egypt’s D.C. Lobbyists Draw Scrutiny
Last summer, Sens. John McCain and Russ Feingold introduced a bipartisan resolution criticizing the Egyptian government. It called on Cairo to stop arbitrary detention and torture, and ensure free elections.
Advocates on both sides started contacting senators. Mississippi Republican Roger Wicker says he spoke with the Egyptian ambassador, a human-rights group and former GOP Rep. Bob Livingston.
Livingston called because the Egyptian government is one of his clients. Since 2007, the Mubarak government has employed Livingston and two other top lobbyists: former Democratic Rep. Toby Moffett and Tony Podesta, one of the most influential Democratic lobbyists in town these days.
They all either declined or didn’t respond to interview requests.
The human-rights resolution they opposed never got voted on. Wicker says he “expressed concerns” that slowed it down, as did other senators.
“I didn’t do anything from a parliamentary standpoint,” Wicker says. “I didn’t object. I didn’t place a hold on the resolution.”
And, the senator says, his stand was not related to an $800 million shipbuilding contract in his home state. A shipyard there is building four missile ships for the Egyptian navy.
Last spring, the keel was laid for the first ship. Livingston flew down for the ceremony.
My, My there is a lot of money out there.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:38:49am |
I have been a critic of the President, although i was never a bitter critic. I have disagreed on some critical issues, including foreign policy. And with the stakes so high in the world right now, I need him to be right on the Mideast situation. If he gets this right in Egypt, he can set his gaze on Iran. And if he gets THAT right, he will be is a hero to all. Good luck, Mr. President.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:39:33am |
re: #91 Rightwingconspirator
It’s a shame the noise and fury about immigration policy and the reactions of border residents (minutemen etc) clouds the real deadly issues at hand. Like the unnecessary skepticism aimed at the poor lady whose husband was shot & killed on the lake as they enjoyed a day on their watercraft.
There was a blurb a week or so ago that border guards had been shot at by gang members (bullets flying across the border). It was described as a sort of “fishing expedition” by the gang members.
I don’t know, but bullets across the border aimed at law enforcement seems a rather (ahem) serious message to me.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:42:51am |
Back on the Bath Salt article:
In Panama City, Fla., two incidents alerted authorities to the drug’s serious effects. In one case, several officers were needed to subdue a man who tore a radar unit out of a police car with his teeth.
In another incident, police say a woman attacked her mother with a machete, thinking she was a monster.
While this rings of reefer madness scare tactics to me, I have to wonder at the machete?
They seem to be cropping up in unusual places: Egyptian riots, Florida … ..
Who keeps a machete in their house?
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:42:52am |
re: #93 _RememberTonyC
I have been a critic of the President, although i was never a bitter critic. I have disagreed on some critical issues, including foreign policy. And with the stakes so high in the world right now, I need him to be right on the Mideast situation. If he gets this right in Egypt, he can set his gaze on Iran. And if he gets THAT right, he will be is a hero to all. Good luck, Mr. President.
Upding for the sentiment, but if he walked unarmed into the Iranian parliament, and converted them all to Quaker pacifists, he still would not be a hero to all.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:43:08am |
re: #94 ggt
There was a blurb a week or so ago that border guards had been shot at by gang members (bullets flying across the border). It was described as a sort of “fishing expedition” by the gang members.
I don’t know, but bullets across the border aimed at law enforcement seems a rather (ahem) serious message to me.
Get ready for Texas to “open a can” on those dudes.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:43:44am |
re: #97 _RememberTonyC
Get ready for Texas to “open a can” on those dudes.
Yeah, I know.
won’t be pretty.
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Political Atheist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:44:14am |
re: #94 ggt
I agree. That’s why I scoffed at Napolitanos “strongly worded letter” (my phrase for her statement) aimed at the cartels. IMO it amounted to “if you ever do what you already do I’ll react strongly”. I’d like to see open skies and extensive drone surveillance aimed at the cartels. Reduce their ability to skulk around moving armed men and drugs.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:44:52am |
re: #96 Decatur Deb
Upding for the sentiment, but if he walked unarmed into the Iranian parliament, and converted them all to Quaker pacifists, he still would not be a hero to all.
True … But he will be a hero to me if he somehow facilitates the departure of the mullahs. My concern is that we missed our moment in 2009, but if Iranians see Egypt turn, they may be emboldened to try again.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:45:50am |
re: #99 Rightwingconspirator
I agree. That’s why I scoffed at Napolitanos “strongly worded letter” (my phrase for her statement) aimed at the cartels. IMO it amounted to “if you ever do what you already do I’ll react strongly”. I’d like to see open skies and extensive drone surveillance aimed at the cartels. Reduce their ability to skulk around moving armed men and drugs.
I’d like to see a lot more than drones … , but that probably isn’t practical and is not the way to go.
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Political Atheist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:47:28am |
re: #101 ggt
One step at a time. Come to understand the cartels as well as they understand themselves, operationally. Ever read Sun Tzu?
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:47:59am |
My kid said the Robert Rodriguez movie with Danny Trejo, Machete, is supposed to be a real disappointment.
I actually had high hopes for a spin-off of Grindhouse.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:49:04am |
re: #95 ggt
Back on the Bath Salt article:
While this rings of reefer madness scare tactics to me, I have to wonder at the machete?
They seem to be cropping up in unusual places: Egyptian riots, Florida ….
Who keeps a machete in their house?
They go for $3.00 new at the flea market here, about 80 miles north of PC.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:49:06am |
re: #102 Rightwingconspirator
One step at a time. Come to understand the cartels as well as they understand themselves, operationally. Ever read Sun Tzu?
Yeah, but as a mother, I have a tendency to want to treat these things the same way I would discipline children.
Stop IT! redirect and move on with our day.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:51:03am |
re: #103 ggt
My kid said the Robert Rodriguez movie with Danny Trejo, Machete, is supposed to be a real disappointment.
I actually had high hopes for a spin-off of Grindhouse.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:55:25am |
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:56:59am |
Man, my dog is still not doing well.
I hate not knowing what is exactly wrong. She’s very disoriented today and the other dogs are acting like she doesn’t exist.
Not good.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:58:09am |
re: #103 ggt
Is Grindhouse like Roadhouse? I’m only askin cuz I love Family Guy.
Now I’m gonna be saying “ROADHOUSE” all day…
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 6:59:42am |
re: #111 Shropshire_Slasher
Is Grindhouse like Roadhouse? I’m only askin cuz I love Family Guy.
Now I’m gonna be saying “ROADHOUSE” all day…
dunno, only watched Family Guy a couple times.
Quentin Tarantino goodness.
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charlz Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:02:38am |
re: #103 ggt
My kid said the Robert Rodriguez movie with Danny Trejo, Machete, is supposed to be a real disappointment.
From Rotten Tomatoes:
Machete is messy, violent, shallow, and tasteless — and that’s precisely the point of one of the summer’s most cartoonishly enjoyable films.
I rather enjoyed it, but I never saw Grindhouse so can’t compare. I do now see why Lindsay Lohan is famous for being famous rather than acting.
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:03:35am |
re: #107 Alouette
Death Proof was actually quite entertaining, and the 10+ minute car chase at the end of the movie was amazing, particularly with Zoe Bell (a stuntwoman who did all of Uma Thurman’s stunts in Kill Bill) basically playing herself and doing all of the amazing stunts.
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:04:46am |
re: #113 charlz
Lohan was pretty good in Mean Girls, but it’s been pretty much downhill from there.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:05:08am |
re: #114 lawhawk
Death Proof was actually quite entertaining, and the 10+ minute car chase at the end of the movie was amazing, particularly with Zoe Bell (a stuntwoman who did all of Uma Thurman’s stunts in Kill Bill) basically playing herself and doing all of the amazing stunts.
[Video]
Real actors with a cheezy script.
Kurt Russell was unbelievable.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:07:18am |
re: #115 lawhawk
Lohan was pretty good in Mean Girls, but it’s been pretty much downhill from there.
She is also a disappointment. She really can act.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:07:53am |
re: #113 charlz
From Rotten Tomatoes:
I rather enjoyed it, but I never saw Grindhouse so can’t compare. I do now see why Lindsay Lohan is famous for being famous rather than acting.
I’ll watch-it sans kid.
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darthstar Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:10:39am |
Mornin’ lizards…I watched RED this weekend. Kind of cheesy, and they killed Morgan Freeman too early - given the plot and such they could have kept him alive IMO - anyway, lots of shooting, and Helen Mirren is a joy to watch, so it’s worth the $1 at RedBox.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:11:03am |
What? Now are we going to have to legislate machetes?
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darthstar Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:12:30am |
re: #120 ggt
What? Now are we going to have to legislate machetes?
It’s good to see Americans returning to the cane fields that made this country what it is.
//
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:12:56am |
The robbery occurred around 4:30 p.m. Jan. 13 at Chang Jiang Chinese Restaurant, 1315 21st St., Zion. The offender entered through the rear employee entrance brandishing a submachine gun and a large silver machete. He ordered an employee to open the cash register, took about $300 and left the same way he entered.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:14:35am |
re: #119 darthstar
Mornin’ lizards…I watched RED this weekend. Kind of cheesy, and they killed Morgan Freeman too early - given the plot and such they could have kept him alive IMO - anyway, lots of shooting, and Helen Mirren is a joy to watch, so it’s worth the $1 at RedBox.
Fuck you very much for the spoiler. That movie is next on my Netflix queue.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:15:19am |
They sell them at Walmart. Who knew?
Jurors on Thursday sentenced a drifter accused of hacking a San Antonio man to death with a machete he bought at Walmart to 45 years in prison.
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darthstar Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:16:35am |
re: #123 Alouette
Fuck you very much for the spoiler. That movie is next on my Netflix queue.
Oh, it’s not a spoiler. Freeman gets killed a lot in this movie, as do a few other characters.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:18:04am |
re: #125 darthstar
Oh, it’s not a spoiler. Freeman gets killed a lot in this movie, as do a few other characters.
What, is he like Kenny in “South Park”?
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wiffersnapper Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:24:15am |
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
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Jimmi the Grey Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:25:52am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
Happy Birthday from another of the inactive posters.
Now back to my regularly scheduled lurking…
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:35:03am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
Happy Birthday!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:37:35am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
Happy Birthday!
I hope you have a great day.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:39:11am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
How old are you?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:40:22am |
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mr.fusion Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:43:51am |
re: #88 Rightwingconspirator
Now this is a surprise
Excerpt
A handful of moderate Senate Democrats are looking for ways to roll back the highly contentious individual mandate — the pillar of President Barack Obama’s health care law — a sign that red-state senators are prepared to assert their independence ahead of the 2012 elections.
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com…]They would be better off with tax and benefit, as I strongly suspect the SCOTUS is not willing go for the mandate. Huge slippery slope there, IMO. Of course the legislature is best positioned to force severability so we do not toss the “baby with the bathwater”.
Here’s what I don’t get
We’re approaching tax time…..I, the child-less mr.fusion, will have to pay more in taxes this year than someone making the exact same amount of money as I am if they have children. I have made the lifestyle choice not to have children. The federal government is taxing my inaction. How is this different (or more constitutional) than taxing someone who chooses not to have health insurance.
I think it’s time to end the government mandate that we all have children.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:44:34am |
I Stand With Planned Parenthood
follow the link to add your name to a an open letter to Congress et al.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:51:16am |
paste on your Facebook:
I stand with Planned Parenthood and against those who are spreading lies about them. The truth is that Planned Parenthood is the nation’s leading sexual and reproductive health care provider and advocate. They give millions of women the means to control their own reproductive health, from sex education to birth control. That is the truth and why I’m standing with Planned Parenthood today. Join me:
[Link: www.ppaction.org…]
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Ericus58 Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:52:12am |
re: #133 mr.fusion
Here’s what I don’t get
We’re approaching tax time…I, the child-less mr.fusion, will have to pay more in taxes this year than someone making the exact same amount of money as I am if they have children. I have made the lifestyle choice not to have children. The federal government is taxing my inaction. How is this different (or more constitutional) than taxing someone who chooses not to have health insurance.
I think it’s time to end the government mandate that we all have children.
Does the “extra” taxes you pay exceed the cost a parent would spend in a year providing for a child?
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William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 8, 2011 7:53:16am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
May it be a great day and may you have many more that are even better.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:01:09am |
re: #127 wiffersnapper
I’m not a very active/important poster around these parts, but today’s my birthday. Just thought you’d like to know!
Well, you’re no longer a whippersnapper…
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:02:15am |
According to the Planned Parenthood 2008-9 Annual Report:
While much of our attention was on changes in our nation’s leadership, the focus at our affiliate health centers — as always — was on the women and young people we care for, and providing them with preventive health care. For the three million patients our doctors and nurses saw, we provided contraception (36 percent of our total services), testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections (31 percent), cancer screening and prevention (17 percent), and abortion services (three percent). In all, we helped prevent roughly 621,000 unintended pregnancies.
I don’t get the hoopla. Clearly, a lot of people are getting services they need and wouldn’t get elsewhere.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:03:37am |
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:05:51am |
re: #133 mr.fusion
Here’s what I don’t get
We’re approaching tax time…I, the child-less mr.fusion, will have to pay more in taxes this year than someone making the exact same amount of money as I am if they have children. I have made the lifestyle choice not to have children. The federal government is taxing my inaction. How is this different (or more constitutional) than taxing someone who chooses not to have health insurance.
I think it’s time to end the government mandate that we all have children.
I think you should look at this a bit differently. You are not being taxed more, the people with children are being taxed less.
Children are a huge expense, and rightly deserve a tax exemption.
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:08:40am |
re: #140 ggt
The anti-abortion groups focus not on the 3% of services provided, but on the 621,000 abortions provided. They’d use the provision of those abortions as a means to cut federal funding to PP, even though they provide key health services to underserved communities throughout the country.
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Lidane Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:13:40am |
re: #140 ggt
I don’t get the hoopla. Clearly, a lot of people are getting services they need and wouldn’t get elsewhere.
What it comes down to is that women have affordable access to birth control, or might even get abortions, and we can’t allow them that. We have to keep the wimmins barefoot, pregnant, and ignorant about their own bodies and their own health.
/wingnut
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:14:36am |
re: #142 blueraven
That’s the rationale to keep and add yet more tax breaks to everything from ethanol (it’s good for the environment) to mortgage interest deductions (it’s good for people to own their own homes), etc. Aside from the distortions to the economic markets, the tax breaks increase the complexity to the point where it is nearly impossible to do your taxes without significant assistance via tax filing software or tax prep services.
Tax simplification, which can streamline the tax collection and compliance, can be used to keep revenues generated the same, all while lowering the tax rates. While both sides of the aisle want tax simplification - the question becomes how to do so - whether simplification can or should be used to increase revenues, or keep revenues constant.
All I know is that the current tax code is unworkable and every year beyond the 1986 recodification/simplification, the situation becomes even worse as tax breaks are piled on top of each other and trying to suss out your tax obligations become more difficult.
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:20:28am |
re: #146 lawhawk
I completely agree that the tax code needs to be overhauled. I am not so sure that exemptions for children should be totally eliminated in the process though.
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:20:42am |
re: #141 ggt
Never heard of this organization —tell me more.
Credo is a mobile phone company. You get plans with them just like AT&T or Verizon, but instead of giving massive amounts of money to right wing causes (as AT&T and Verizon both do), they contribute to causes like PP. (Credo uses the Sprint network. Decent coverage)
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:21:30am |
re: #147 blueraven
I completely agree that the tax code needs to be overhauled. I am not so sure that exemptions for children should be totally eliminated in the process though.
Frankly, that would be one of the first things to go if I were writing the code. If and when I choose to have Children, it’s my choice. If I make that choice, it’s mine to pay for.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:26:01am |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
Frankly, that would be one of the first things to go if I were writing the code. If and when I choose to have Children, it’s my choice. If I make that choice, it’s mine to pay for.
It is assumed that other people’s children will fight your wars, feed the economy that pays for your retirement, and change your bedpans.
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:26:15am |
Google Chrome now has “apps” you can download and that run within the browser. “Entanglement” is pretty neat.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:26:17am |
re: #146 lawhawk
That’s the rationale to keep and add yet more tax breaks to everything from ethanol (it’s good for the environment) to mortgage interest deductions (it’s good for people to own their own homes), etc. Aside from the distortions to the economic markets, the tax breaks increase the complexity to the point where it is nearly impossible to do your taxes without significant assistance via tax filing software or tax prep services.
Tax simplification, which can streamline the tax collection and compliance, can be used to keep revenues generated the same, all while lowering the tax rates. While both sides of the aisle want tax simplification - the question becomes how to do so - whether simplification can or should be used to increase revenues, or keep revenues constant.
All I know is that the current tax code is unworkable and every year beyond the 1986 recodification/simplification, the situation becomes even worse as tax breaks are piled on top of each other and trying to suss out your tax obligations become more difficult.
Every year the Roi insists on doing our taxes, himself.
And every year, we hear from the IRS that we’ve done SOMETHING wrong.
Yes, when it’s so complicated to file a tax return that an intelligent person is unable to do it, it’s wayyy too complicated.
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:26:56am |
re: #149 Fozzie Bear
Frankly, that would be one of the first things to go if I were writing the code. If and when I choose to have Children, it’s my choice. If I make that choice, it’s mine to pay for.
Oh believe me, you would pay for children with or without a tax exemption.
I think if we are looking for a more equitable tax code we might look at the big corporations that pay no US federal income tax and begin there. Exxon Mobil, GE etc…
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:29:46am |
re: #150 Decatur Deb
It is assumed that other people’s children will fight your wars, feed the economy that pays for your retirement, and change your bedpans.
Is it really wise to provide financial incentives for fertility on a planet with billions of people and massive environmental problems? I don’t think so.
re: #153 blueraven
Oh believe me, you would pay for children with or without a tax exemption.
I think if we are looking for a more equitable tax code we might look at the big corporations that pay no US federal income tax and begin there. Exxon Mobil, GE etc…
I can certainly agree with that. Regardless, the idea that being responsible with my genitals costs me extra isn’t something that sits well with me.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:32:29am |
re: #154 Fozzie Bear
Is it really wise to provide financial incentives for fertility on a planet with billions of people and massive environmental problems? I don’t think so.
re: #153 blueravenI can certainly agree with that. Regardless, the idea that being responsible with my genitals costs me extra isn’t something that sits well with me.
Are you volunteering to be the last American?
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BishopX Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:37:42am |
re: #154 Fozzie Bear
The tax credit is 1,000 dollars per kid per year, reduced if your income is above a certain point (somewhere around 115,000 a year). If your spending less than 1,000$/year (20$/week) on a child and paying income tax…we should probably call child protective serves rather than complain about you making money.
You handling your bits responsibly saves you quite a bit of money…tax credit or not.
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:38:30am |
re: #153 blueraven
GE is known to have the best tax department in the world, and they know how to beat tax departments and the IRS at their own game since they know the law better than the IRS and state tax departments. They take advantage of every conceivable credit, exemption, and deduction to reduce the company’s tax obligations, but there are companies that do even better because of the industry they’re in. Biotech companies can reduce their tax obligations to virtually nothing, but old-line companies can’t do nearly as much because of the existing tax code, which is filled with so many distortions that business decisions are made with an eye to the tax code rather than whether it would be a sound business practice.
Arguably, the United States now has a corporate tax code that’s the worst of all worlds. The official rate is higher than in almost any other country, which forces companies to devote enormous time and effort to finding loopholes. Yet the government raises less money in corporate taxes than it once did, because of all the loopholes that have been added in recent decades.“A dirty little secret,” Richard Clarida, a Columbia University economist and former official in the Treasury Department under President George W. Bush, has said, “is that the corporate income tax used to raise a fair amount of revenue.”
Over the last five years, on the other hand, Boeing paid a total tax rate of just 4.5 percent, according to Capital IQ. Southwest Airlines paid 6.3 percent. And the list goes on: Yahoo paid 7 percent; Prudential Financial, 7.6 percent; General Electric, 14.3 percent.
Economists have long pleaded for an overhaul of the corporate tax code, and both President Obama and Republicans now say they favor one, too. But it won’t be easy. Companies that use loopholes to avoid taxes don’t mind the current system, of course, and they have more than a few lobbyists at their disposal.
The official position of the Business Roundtable, one of the most important corporate lobbying groups, is telling. The Roundtable says it supports corporate tax reform. But it actually favors only a reduction in the tax rate. The group refuses to say whether it also favors a reduction of loopholes. In effect, the Roundtable wants a tax cut for its members regardless of how much the tax code is simplified — or whether the budget deficit grows.
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:41:54am |
re: #157 lawhawk
It is definitely skewed to big corporate interest while the small business gets the short end of the stick. In the end we all pay for the sheer incompetence due to lack of tax dollars collected.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:43:10am |
re: #134 ggt
I Stand With Planned Parenthood
follow the link to add your name to a an open letter to Congress et al.
Already done.
There’s a special place in Hell for Lilah Rose.
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Decatur Deb Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:46:29am |
re: #159 Romantic Heretic
Already done.
There’s a special place in Hell for Lilah Rose.
Malebolge, the eighth circle.
Canto xxiii
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:47:22am |
re: #154 Fozzie Bear
Is it really wise to provide financial incentives for fertility on a planet with billions of people and massive environmental problems? I don’t think so.
re: #153 blueravenI can certainly agree with that. Regardless, the idea that being responsible with my genitals costs me extra isn’t something that sits well with me.
Again…it does not cost you more. It is an exemption for families with children, a very small amount. What costs you much more is the fact that many corporations pay no income tax. This is a loss of tax dollars that would fund areas that benefit the nation as a whole.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:47:59am |
re: #157 lawhawk
GE doesn’t write the tax code, I don’t blame them for squezzing every dollar, I sure as hell do.
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:53:03am |
re: #162 Shropshire_Slasher
GE doesn’t write the tax code, I don’t blame them for squezzing every dollar, I sure as hell do.
I think the argument is that the tax code needs to be changed, not that it is being taken advantage of.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:53:06am |
Crazy Pam is getting some attention this morning,,,,
Despite Muslim, Gay Controversies, CPAC Still Has Wide ‘Hate Fest’ Selection
In the anti-Muslim corner, there will be not one but two screenings of “The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11 Attacks,” one of which will be followed by speeches by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. Refreshments will be served.
That’s an event that ex-Bush administration staffer Suhail Khan, who now heads the conservative group Muslims for America, calls a “little hate fest.” Khan noted that most of the anti-Muslim gathers were “not official CPAC events” and told TPM that Geller’s screening was “laughable.”
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:54:28am |
re: #163 blueraven
I think the argument is that the tax code needs to be changed, not that it is being taken advantage of.
GE will no doubt fight any attempt to close tax loopholes.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:54:57am |
[Link: www.theonion.com…]
Ha, this is so true.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 8:56:46am |
re: #163 blueraven
My main point is to blame the tax writers, our elected officials, the ones in charge of “simplifying” the tax code.
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zora Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:00:42am |
[Link: blogs.denverpost.com…]
Dick Wadhams (what a name) today unexpectedly dropped his bid for a third term as chairman of the Colorado Republican Party, and said he has no idea what he will do next.
I have tired of those who are obsessed with seeing conspiracies around every corner and who have terribly misguided notions of what the role of the state party is while saying “uniting conservatives” is all that is needed to win competitive races across the state.
just another rino, nothing to see here.
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blueraven Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:00:55am |
re: #168 Shropshire_Slasher
My main point is to blame the tax writers, our elected officials, the ones in charge of “simplifying” the tax code.
They are all a bunch of chickenshits.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:01:42am |
Colorado GOP Chairman Quits: ‘I’m Tired Of The Nuts’
Colorado Republican Party Chairman Dick Wadhams dropped his reelection bid on Monday, and fired some parting shots at the Tea Party and the hard-line conservatives he thinks are hurting the party’s electoral success.“I have tired of those who are obsessed with seeing conspiracies around every corner and who have terribly misguided notions of what the role of the state party is while saying ‘uniting conservatives’ is all that is needed to win competitive races across the state,” Wadhams wrote in a memo to the Colorado Republican State Central Committee obtained by The Denver Post.
Wadhams oversaw Republican losses in both the Senate and gubernatorial races in Colorado last fall, races that the party could have conceivably won if the Tea Party-backed nominees in both races hadn’t committed some serious errors.
“I have loved being chairman, but I’m tired of the nuts who have no grasp of what the state party’s role is,” Wadhams told the Post.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:04:21am |
re: #171 Varek Raith
Ha when a guy who managed George Allen’s campaign says you’ve gone off the deep end, maybe you’ll take notice. Allen is running again here next year. Can’t stand that guy.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:05:48am |
re: #172 HappyWarrior
Ha when a guy who managed George Allen’s campaign says you’ve gone off the deep end, maybe you’ll take notice. Allen is running again here next year. Can’t stand that guy.
Ah CRAP!
7th district still?
I’m in the 10th.
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kirkspencer Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:05:51am |
Should a business be taxed on income before or after expenses? Yes, that’s rhetorical; if taxed on income before expenses it could and most likely would drive the business under.
So why, then, are people insisting on taxing individuals on all income despite expenses? Do you not think that doing this is likely to be destructive to the families with higher expenses?
Instead of wanting to remove children, of course, I keep pushing a different answer. Treat expenses as expenses and deduct them completely, but then make a serious tax of the profits; taxing 40, even 50% of income after expenses (aka profit).
Paying rent? cool, it’s an expense. Paying for a house? also an expense.
Put in a floor and a ceiling on expenses. Maybe a minimum of the FPL and a maximum of 10 times the FPL, with anything above the floor requiring documentation.
Would it truly be simple? No. Would it be simpler than what we’ve got? Oh, yes.
And it would escape this pernicious belief that ‘the poor’ are getting away with something.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:06:38am |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:07:49am |
re: #174 Varek Raith
Ah CRAP!
7th district still?
I’m in the 10th.
I live in the 10th when I am not at school. At school though, I live in Gerry Connolly’s. Even did some canvassing for him.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:11:41am |
Bill O’Reilly Teaches Kids About Science
I especially love the “We’ll do it live!” picture in the background.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:12:40am |
re: #153 blueraven
Oh believe me, you would pay for children with or without a tax exemption.
I think if we are looking for a more equitable tax code we might look at the big corporations that pay no US federal income tax and begin there. Exxon Mobil, GE etc…
A little factoid I learned years ago: In the late 50s-early 60s jointly held stock companies carried between thirty to forty percent of the tax burden, depending on the country they were in. By the early 90s they carried between ten and fifteen percent.
We are not in a budget crisis, we are in a taxation crisis.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:13:58am |
re: #178 JasonA
Bill O’Reilly Teaches Kids About Science
I especially love the “We’ll do it live!” picture in the background.
WE’RE THE ONLY PLANET WITH A MOON!!!
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:15:14am |
re: #180 Varek Raith
WE’RE THE ONLY PLANET WITH A MOON!!!
And life. Apparently it’s already a fact that there is no life anywhere else in the universe.
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S'latch Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:15:27am |
We shall be judged by what we do, not by how we felt while we were doing it. — Kenneth Tynan
I suspect that Kenneth Tynan was contemplating G-d as the judge when he made that statement. Courts of men often judge us by the reasons for our actions as well as the act itself.
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:16:06am |
re: #181 JasonA
And life. Apparently it’s already a fact that there is no life anywhere else in the universe.
That has to be the most amusing nihilistic belief out there.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:16:22am |
re: #178 JasonA
Bill O’Reilly Teaches Kids About Science
I especially love the “We’ll do it live!” picture in the background.
Only planet with a moon? Shit, Bill, I find astronomy boring too but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Mars does have moons and Jupiter has a bunch of em.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:16:27am |
I refuse to feel bad for laughing at this: Man accidentally stabbed to death by cockfighting bird
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:17:05am |
re: #184 HappyWarrior
Only planet with a moon? Shit, Bill, I find astronomy boring too but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Mars does have moons and Jupiter has a bunch of em.
Jupiter has 63.
Saturn, 62
:)
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zora Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:18:45am |
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:19:15am |
re: #186 Varek Raith
Science: ∞ O’Reilly:∅
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:20:52am |
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jaunte Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:20:57am |
re: #179 Romantic Heretic
We are not in a budget crisis, we are in a taxation crisis.
Meanwhile some legislators are spending time on the really important stuff:
Wasting time to reaffirm the motto “In God We Trust” are:
Mr. Forbes (for himself, Mr. Chaffetz, Mr. Wilson of South Carolina,
Mr. Gary G. Miller of California, Mr. Jones, Mr. Roe of Tennessee, Mr.
Ross of Arkansas, Mrs. Blackburn, Mr. Garrett, Mr. Coffman of Colorado,
Mr. Pence, Mr. Conaway, Mr. Lankford, Mr. Shuster, Mr. Gingrey of
Georgia, Mr. Lipinski, Mr. Kline, Mr. Rahall, Mr. Burgess, Mr. Broun of
Georgia, Mr. Davis of Kentucky, Mr. Bachus, Mr. Flores, Mr. Alexander,
and Mr. Wolf) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
[Link: frwebgate.access.gpo.gov…]
From the Secular Coalition of America:
Rather than wasting time on a resolution that in effect does nothing except alienate constituents and break down the wall of separation of church and state, the House Judiciary Committee should focus on protecting the rights of all U.S. citizens and the integrity of the Constitution.
[Link: www.secular.org…]
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:20:59am |
re: #187 zora
you and your stinkin’ facts.
One of Jupiter’s moons, Ganymede, is bigger than Mercury.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:22:55am |
re: #190 jaunte
Meanwhile some legislators are spending time on the really important stuff:
Wasting time to reaffirm the motto “In God We Trust” are:
[Link: frwebgate.access.gpo.gov…]
From the Secular Coalition of America:
Sigh, Mr. Wolf is is my Congressman. He’s not as bad as a lot of the nuts but I wish he wouldn’t waste his time with this. I am no atheist or even agnostic but who cares about In God We Trust on our coins. Life will go on and there are more pressing issues at hand.
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zora Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:25:16am |
re: #191 Varek Raith
One of Jupiter’s moons, Ganymede, is bigger than Mercury.
next you’ll be telling me that you bow to the alter of global warming.
/
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Krauthammer: Global Warming Is A Religion
Look, if Godzilla appeared on the Mall this afternoon, Al Gore would say it’s global warming, because the spores in the South Atlantic Ocean, you know, were. Look, everything is, it’s a religion. In a religion, everything is explicable. In science, you can actually deny or falsify a proposition with evidence. You find me a single piece of evidence that Al Gore would ever admit would contradict global warming and I’ll be surprised.
pot meet kettle.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:25:23am |
re: #184 HappyWarrior
Only planet with a moon? Shit, Bill, I find astronomy boring too but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Mars does have moons and Jupiter has a bunch of em.
If it’s all the same, I think I’ll stick with Bill Nye for my kids’ science education from TV pundits.
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:26:02am |
re: #185 JasonA
I refuse to feel bad for laughing at this: Man accidentally stabbed to death by cockfighting bird
That is what karma would look like were I its enforcer.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:26:18am |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
Did you mention last night your hubby is having lactose problems?
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:26:31am |
re: #191 Varek Raith
One of Jupiter’s moons, Ganymede, is bigger than Mercury.
And on another, sometime in the future…
i hope you weren’t planning on sleeping tonight
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:26:59am |
re: #194 zora
And Krauthammer is one of the “reasonable” Republicans. LOL
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Varek Raith Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:27:07am |
re: #198 laZardo
And on another, sometime in the future…
[Video]i hope you weren’t planning on sleeping tonight
I have to get that game…
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:27:51am |
re: #197 Killgore Trout
Did you mention last night your hubby is having lactose problems?
I did indeed.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:28:23am |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
If it’s all the same, I think I’ll stick with Bill Nye for my kids’ science education from TV pundits.
I really enjoyed the Nye videos as a kid. He makes it fun and believe me as a humanities guy I needed that for science.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:28:30am |
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:30:15am |
re: #194 zora
next you’ll be telling me that you bow to the alter of global warming.
/
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]Krauthammer: Global Warming Is A Religion
pot meet kettle.
This is the problem with the anti global warming people. They’re so fixated with Al Gore that they completely ignore the real scientists who say global warming exists. I don’t know about you but I trust people who actually understand how the earth works rather than some talking head whose sole goal is to mock “Al Bore.”
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:30:51am |
re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist
I’d throw in Carl Sagan’s Cosmos miniseries to the mix. Still relevant on everything from evolution to planets beyond the solar system.
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:32:51am |
re: #194 zora
next you’ll be telling me that you bow to the alter of global warming.
/
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]Krauthammer: Global Warming Is A Religion
pot meet kettle.
Um, Charles? A single piece of evidence does not disprove a theory or a hypothesis. A preponderance of reproducible evidence is required and so far the preponderance of evidence leans heavily towards climate change caused by human activity.
Furthermore, Al Gore is not a scientist and whether he backs something is utterly immaterial to the matter at hand.
I only have a high school education, barely, and I understand that. How is it a well educated, widely experienced person such as yourself does not?
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:34:12am |
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kirkspencer Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:34:22am |
re: #194 zora
(quoting Krauthammer) You find me a single piece of evidence that Al Gore would ever admit would contradict global warming and I’ll be surprised.
To demonstrate the stupidity, two changes - the name, and the subject.
You find me a single piece of evidence that Stephen Hawking would ever admit would contradict gravity and I’ll be surprised.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:34:37am |
re: #205 lawhawk
I’d throw in Carl Sagan’s Cosmos miniseries to the mix. Still relevant on everything from evolution to planets beyond the solar system.
[Video]
I remember in philosophy hearing an interesting story about a meeting between Carl Sagan and Pope John Paul II. Sagan was astounded that a man as smart as John Paul II could believe in God and John Paul II felt likewise about Sagan. I don’t agree with the Roman Catholic Church on much but I do appreciate that they’ve accepted evolution and not acted hostile towards scientists like the you see in other demonations.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:35:04am |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
Beck: U.S. Is Controlled By “The Outcasts Of Society” Pushing For “A New World Order”
He’s turning into a mainstream Alex Jones.
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RogueOne Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:35:14am |
re: #208 JasonA
I still haven’t played the first one :(
I was just playing it the other night. Great game.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:35:56am |
re: #212 RogueOne
I was just playing it the other night. Great game.
I’m loving the hell out of Red Dead Redemption nowadays. And RE5.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:36:27am |
re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist
I did indeed.
I’s always had IBS and earlier this year started to become lactose intolerant. It took a little bit of experimenting but I cleared it up. Here’s how I did it: 1) high fiber. If you can’t get enough fiber through regular diet he can take Citrucel. It’s not too gross but I don’t take it anymore since I started having Quinoa with dinner on a regular basis.
2) another thing to try is eating more fruit. An apple or two a day makes a huge difference in lactose digestion.
3) yogurt. I have a small amount of yogurt every day. The live bacteria help to cultivate the “inner garden”.
I’ll bet if he experiments a little bit with diet he can beat it.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:36:33am |
re: #210 HappyWarrior
I remember in philosophy hearing an interesting story about a meeting between Carl Sagan and Pope John Paul II. Sagan was astounded that a man as smart as John Paul II could believe in God and John Paul II felt likewise about Sagan. I don’t agree with the Roman Catholic Church on much but I do appreciate that they’ve accepted evolution and not acted hostile towards scientists like the you see in other demonations.
Well, not hostile anymore….
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:36:52am |
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Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:37:24am |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
Beck: U.S. Is Controlled By “The Outcasts Of Society” Pushing For “A New World Order”
I listened to thirty seconds of that. “Unions were created by Marx and Marx planned what happened in Russia.”
Gaaah! My brain hurts.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:37:36am |
re: #213 JasonA
I despised the ending of Red Dead, It left me….
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:37:37am |
re: #213 JasonA
I’m loving the hell out of Red Dead Redemption nowadays. And RE5.
I wanna get the Zombie expansions but my PS3 brokeded. D:
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:38:12am |
re: #219 Shropshire_Slasher
I despised the ending of Red Dead, It left me…
You did hang around for the “three years later” epilogue, right?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:38:24am |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
I’s always had IBS and earlier this year started to become lactose intolerant. It took a little bit of experimenting but I cleared it up. Here’s how I did it: 1) high fiber. If you can’t get enough fiber through regular diet he can take Citrucel. It’s not too gross but I don’t take it anymore since I started having Quinoa with dinner on a regular basis.
2) another thing to try is eating more fruit. An apple or two a day makes a huge difference in lactose digestion.
3) yogurt. I have a small amount of yogurt every day. The live bacteria help to cultivate the “inner garden”.
I’ll bet if he experiments a little bit with diet he can beat it.
Thanks! I’ll pass all of that along.
He’s not a giant dairy fan, but he does like the occasional bowl of cereal, and ice cream is something he doesn’t want to give up.
Sure worth a try!
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:38:34am |
re: #219 Shropshire_Slasher
I despised the ending of Red Dead, It left me…
Shh! I just did some missions in Mexico. Not quite done yet.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:40:17am |
re: #218 Romantic Heretic
I listened to thirty seconds of that. “Unions were created by Marx and Marx planned what happened in Russia.”
Gaaah! My brain hurts.
What’s sad is people get their historical opinions from this clown. Unions were created long before Marx. And Marx would have never been able to succeed as a writer in Russia. Marx’s writings were being published in London as I recall. Me thinks Glenn just pulls ideas of history from his asshole.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:40:43am |
re: #221 laZardo
I think so, it was fun but the novelty wore off. I’d continue but I don’t wanna spoil it…
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:41:10am |
re: #225 Shropshire_Slasher
I think so, it was fun but the novelty wore off. I’d continue but I don’t wanna spoil it…
Thank you kindly, pardner.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:41:21am |
re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks! I’ll pass all of that along.
He’s not a giant dairy fan, but he does like the occasional bowl of cereal, and ice cream is something he doesn’t want to give up.
Sure worth a try!
I think that’s where the yogurt could be helpful. I don’t eat much dairy either. On the rare occasion when I did I would have a reaction because my system wasn’t used to it.
My favorite desert is just a few tablespoons of yogurt with honey. Very delicious.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:41:46am |
re: #216 JasonA
Well, not hostile anymore…
Yeah I know all about the church’s dealings with Galileo and Copernicus, taking introductory astronomy right now to satisfy my science requirements. Really wish I understood it better. Guess I need to read the material more .
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mr.fusion Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:42:30am |
re: #142 blueraven
I think you should look at this a bit differently. You are not being taxed more, the people with children are being taxed less.
Children are a huge expense, and rightly deserve a tax exemption.
But my point is made in reference to the individual mandate.
Had the law raised everybody’s taxes by $2500 (or whatever it is) BUT it gave a tax cut to everyone who had insurance maybe we wouldn’t be having the discussion of “constitutionality.”
Now, I get the fact that politically nobody wants to say taxes were raised……but that’s my larger point.
I hear all day that the government has never punished Americans for inaction…..that’s simply not the case. Again, people have made the argument since my original posting that people with children deserve the tax break…..they pay out the wazoo for making the personal decision to have kids so it’s justified. But that doesn’t effect the “constitutionality” of the whole thing.
As far as the law goes I have not heard a clear argument yet that distinguishes between paying higher taxes for choosing not to have health insurance VS having to pay higher taxes for choosing not to have children.
PS: Don’t get caught up on the “children” part of it……we get taxed for inaction all the damn time. Tax breaks for having a mortgage jump to mind as well.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:42:37am |
re: #223 JasonA
Shh! I just did some missions in Mexico. Not quite done yet.
I’m walking home from the train station in the evening after a day from college, this song pops up on my music player and suddenly one of my hands is at my hip, about to draw an invisible six-gun.
Magical.
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RogueOne Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:42:51am |
re: #213 JasonA
I’m loving the hell out of Red Dead Redemption nowadays. And RE5.
Same! It was Red Dead that reminded me how much I like dead space so I popped it in.
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Flounder Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:43:25am |
On the subject of gaming, I recommend Mass Effect 2 (couldn’t friggin stop playin), and Left for Dead 2 (PC).
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charlz Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:43:36am |
re: #174 Varek Raith
Ah CRAP!
7th district still?
I’m in the 10th.
He’s running for Senate, Jim Webb’s seat. I don’t believe Webb has announced his intentions yet.
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:44:25am |
Being a racer I’m trying to save up for a new PS3 to play GT5.
Most of what I’ve heard says it was worth the wait.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:44:52am |
re: #233 charlz
He’s running for Senate, Jim Webb’s seat. I don’t believe Webb has announced his intentions yet.
Wonder if he’s going to decide soon. I’m attending hte JJ dinner with my campus’s College Dems in a couple weeks.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:44:55am |
re: #230 laZardo
I’m walking home from the train station in the evening after a day from college, this song pops up on my music player and suddenly one of my hands is at my hip, about to draw an invisible six-gun.
Magical.
Yeah, the music in this game makes me feel like I’m right in the middle of a Spaghetti Western.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:46:11am |
re: #236 JasonA
Yeah, the music in this game makes me feel like I’m right in the middle of a Spaghetti Western.
Like this:
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:46:55am |
Red Dead was fun for me. My zombie obssessed kid bro loves the zombie expansion pack. Like all Rockstar games, I loved the gaming but also the humor. Game I am looking forward to is the new MLB the Show, L.A Noire, and also the new Metal Gear Solid. I think of any game, I’ve beaten the original MGS for the PSX the most. Still as fun for me at 23 as it was at 11.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:47:48am |
re: #228 HappyWarrior
Yeah I know all about the church’s dealings with Galileo and Copernicus, taking introductory astronomy right now to satisfy my science requirements. Really wish I understood it better. Guess I need to read the material more .
Copernicus and Galileo et al really challenged and reenvisioned the entire structure of the universe. There were issues. The Church learned from the Galileo Adventure, too, they’ve been determined since then not to be caught on the completely wrong side of science again.
I guess what amazes me is that, a hundred and fifty years after Darwin laid the groundwork for understanding evolution, educated people are pretending that it’s not real science so they can feel—what, smarter? More pious?
Freaky weird.
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RadicalModerate Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:49:13am |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
Beck: U.S. Is Controlled By “The Outcasts Of Society” Pushing For “A New World Order”
Given Beck’s parroting of the John Birch Society’s talking points as of late, would that “New World Order” consist of an “international Jewish banking conspiracy” headed by the Rothschilds?
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:50:05am |
re: #239 SanFranciscoZionist
Copernicus and Galileo et al really challenged and reenvisioned the entire structure of the universe. There were issues. The Church learned from the Galileo Adventure, too, they’ve been determined since then not to be caught on the completely wrong side of science again.
I guess what amazes me is that, a hundred and fifty years after Darwin laid the groundwork for understanding evolution, educated people are pretending that it’s not real science so they can feel—what, smarter? More pious?
Freaky weird.
I don’t get it either. I mean the crux of Darwin’s theory is that organisms adapt to their surroundings in order to survive. Have no idea why people act like that is somehow a threat to their belief in God. Baffles the mind really.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:51:19am |
NYT correction…
The Will to Drill
This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:
Correction: February 6, 2011
An article on Jan. 16 about drilling for oil off the coast of Angola erroneously reported a story about cows falling from planes, as an example of risks in any engineering endeavor.No cows, smuggled or otherwise, ever fell from a plane into a Japanese fishing rig. The story is an urban legend, and versions of it have been reported in Scotland, Germany, Russia and other locations.
heh
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laZardo Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:52:44am |
re: #238 HappyWarrior
Red Dead was fun for me. My zombie obssessed kid bro loves the zombie expansion pack. Like all Rockstar games, I loved the gaming but also the humor. Game I am looking forward to is the new MLB the Show, L.A Noire, and also the new Metal Gear Solid. I think of any game, I’ve beaten the original MGS for the PSX the most. Still as fun for me at 23 as it was at 11.
My little brother has a piece of fanart (that he sent to a friend to get) autographed by David Hayter framed in his room.
On the other hand, I actually got past the tank battle in the original MGS without any detections, only one save and no rations before I lost interest for some reason.
True story bro.
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lawhawk Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:52:53am |
re: #240 RadicalModerate
But they’re not outsiders! They’re the most inside of insiders.
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zora Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:53:08am |
re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks! I’ll pass all of that along.
He’s not a giant dairy fan, but he does like the occasional bowl of cereal, and ice cream is something he doesn’t want to give up.
Sure worth a try!
he might want to try cereal with almond or coconut milk.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:53:48am |
re: #243 lawhawk
I’m partial to Morricone
[Video]
No argument there. When I was young I loved the soundtrack from The Untouchables.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:54:18am |
Okay, I need to go turn on the XBox after hearing this.
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zora Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:55:18am |
re: #232 Shropshire_Slasher
On the subject of gaming, I recommend Mass Effect 2 (couldn’t friggin stop playin), and Left for Dead 2 (PC).
my husband is playing it now. i gave him the “you’re almost forty, shorty” speech, but he was not amused.
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HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:56:49am |
It’s funny regarding Westerns. I was never big on traditional ones with John Wayne though I will say that I am a fan of the Searchers for sure. My favorite Western was Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman. Always loved Chief Dan George’s character and how he celebrated everything by smoking and his phrase that “Today is a fine day to die.”
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Fozzie Bear Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:57:12am |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
I’s always had IBS and earlier this year started to become lactose intolerant. It took a little bit of experimenting but I cleared it up. Here’s how I did it: 1) high fiber. If you can’t get enough fiber through regular diet he can take Citrucel. It’s not too gross but I don’t take it anymore since I started having Quinoa with dinner on a regular basis.
2) another thing to try is eating more fruit. An apple or two a day makes a huge difference in lactose digestion.
3) yogurt. I have a small amount of yogurt every day. The live bacteria help to cultivate the “inner garden”.
I’ll bet if he experiments a little bit with diet he can beat it.
I can attest that I am apparently lactose intolerant when the rest of my diet is less than healthy. When I eat right otherwise, I can eat all the ice cream and cheese I want without problems.
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Four More Tears Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:58:00am |
re: #250 HappyWarrior
It’s funny regarding Westerns. I was never big on traditional ones with John Wayne though I will say that I am a fan of the Searchers for sure. My favorite Western was Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman. Always loved Chief Dan George’s character and how he celebrated everything by smoking and his phrase that “Today is a fine day to die.”
I’ve always liked them to a certain level. I’m sure I would have been a bigger fan had I grown up in the sixties.
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garhighway Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:01:27am |
re: #142 blueraven
I think you should look at this a bit differently. You are not being taxed more, the people with children are being taxed less.
Children are a huge expense, and rightly deserve a tax exemption.
And the mortgage deduction?
Why the “mandate” to own a home? (Or more precisely, to borrow to own a home?)
The tax code is filled with incentives and disincentives.
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Ericus58 Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:09:06am |
re: #250 HappyWarrior
It’s funny regarding Westerns. I was never big on traditional ones with John Wayne though I will say that I am a fan of the Searchers for sure. My favorite Western was Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman. Always loved Chief Dan George’s character and how he celebrated everything by smoking and his phrase that “Today is a fine day to die.”
The Horse Soldiers
The Outlaw Jossie Wales
Jeremiah Johnson
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mr.fusion Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:09:32am |
re: #253 garhighway
And the mortgage deduction?
Why the “mandate” to own a home? (Or more precisely, to borrow to own a home?)
The tax code is filled with incentives and disincentives.
Exactly…..there is nothing more or less constitutional about the individual mandate than there is for tax breaks for mortgages or children.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:25:11am |
Young Ellie: Dad, do you think there’s people on other planets?
Ted Arroway: I don’t know, Sparks. But I guess I’d say if it is just us… seems like an awful waste of space.
-Contact
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 8, 2011 11:17:11am |
re: #255 Ericus58
The Horse Soldiers
The Outlaw Jossie Wales
Jeremiah Johnson
Chief Dan George helped make the middle one there quite enjoyable.
Endeavor to persevere…
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TedStriker Tue, Feb 8, 2011 11:25:29am |
re: #185 JasonA
I refuse to feel bad for laughing at this: Man accidentally stabbed to death by cockfighting bird
Too bad we’ll never see that on When Animals Attack.
/karma’s a bitch…
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angel Graham Tue, Feb 8, 2011 2:08:25pm |
re: #241 HappyWarrior
I don’t get it either. I mean the crux of Darwin’s theory is that organisms adapt to their surroundings in order to survive. Have no idea why people act like that is somehow a threat to their belief in God. Baffles the mind really.
I am a Christian and have a strong belief in God. I have no problem with saying that I believe that GOD created the Universe (s) that are out there. I also have no problem with saying that evolution plays a large part in everything after God created it. I think for some, perhaps many, it threatens their belief in God, because they think that if they acknowledge that evolution has any part in “it” that they are being forced to choose that rather than creation. If people, Christians who feel that way could realize what you said, that the crux of it is that organisms adapt to their surroundings to survive, then perhaps others would be able to have the belief I do that Creation and Evolution can and do go hand in hand.
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