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I may not know much, but I do know the difference between chicken shit and chicken salad.
— Lyndon B. Johnson, speaking about Richard Nixon
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 10:47:53pm |
This has really been a great day of posts. It's nice to see LGF pissing of cretins like Breitbart and his fans so much. Someone needs to do it.
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windsagio Wed, Jun 8, 2011 10:47:58pm |
One of the cool things Damon Albern did with "Plastic Beach" was make tracks from the singles easily available and encourage people to do remixes of his songs: Like this
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freetoken Wed, Jun 8, 2011 10:58:24pm |
One of the more quotable of Presidents:
Did you ever think that making a speech on economics is a lot like pissing down your leg? It seems hot to you, but it never does to anyone else.
- Lyndon B. Johnson
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freetoken Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:01:26pm |
It is important that the United States remain a two-party system. I'm a fellow who likes small parties and the Republican Party can't be too small to suit me.
- Lyndon B. Johnson
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:06:59pm |
re: #4 freetoken
Johnson was an asshole. He did a great thing in getting the Civil Rights Act of
1964 passed, but he also created welfare programs that failed at massive cost, and escalated American involvement in Vietnam in a fashion that showed appalling ignorance of the situation there.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:17:00pm |
Oi with the petty bickering downstairs.
What's up???
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Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:20:10pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:22:44pm |
re: #7 Varek Raith
Oi with the petty bickering downstairs.
What's up???
Stevo was needing attention again.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:24:30pm |
re: #9 LudwigVanQuixote
Stevo was needing attention again.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:27:38pm |
re: #10 Varek Raith
Fukushima also does not have a core catcher.
This is possibly getting much uglier than it already has, and I haven't even had the stomach to follow up on it for the last month or two.
Ugh.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:27:54pm |
re: #10 Varek Raith
Yeah. It's bad.
However,it is still believe it or not mostly contained thank God. I've been talking to some of my friends from Argonne who went out there. There is an issue with cesium in a band to the North of the plant until it hits the mountains, however, radiation levels are near to background.
So on the one hand, when a giant natural disaster hits a reactor that is 30 years old, bad things happen. On the other hand, the containment in that 30 year old reactor was thankfully very very good. We dodged a major bullet.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:37:59pm |
I think an Oblivion Gate just opened up...
Image: 378454-aptopix-chile-volcano.jpg
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:41:34pm |
re: #13 Varek Raith
I think an Oblivion Gate just opened up...
Image: 378454-aptopix-chile-volcano.jpg
Damn! Do you have a link to that? I mean the article?
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:43:12pm |
re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote
Damn! Do you have a link to that? I mean the article?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
[Link: www.npr.org...]
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:44:05pm |
re: #15 Varek Raith
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
[Link: www.npr.org...]
I think a Balrog lives there.
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Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:47:54pm |
re: #14 LudwigVanQuixote
Damn! Do you have a link to that? I mean the article?
Hi Ludwig,
I thought you might appreciate this, from Australia.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:52:24pm |
re: #17 ozbloke
I do appreciate it. I'm planning to post a bit about all the floods and drought you've had down there along with the models that predicted those as well.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:53:46pm |
OMG y'all! Did ya hear that LudwigVanQuixote refereed to his fiance as "fair skinned"? Clearly this means something nasty.
/:sigh:
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:53:59pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:54:24pm |
re: #17 ozbloke
And I've been meaning to ask you because I really don't understand it. I know that people in the states are worked up enough by shit like the right wing media and fox news to make death threats to scientists here, but why in Australia? I mean, what is the political dynamic there that allows this? I thought that the average Aussie was a little more willing to trust science than the typical American. Obviously this is not so. What do you think is going on?
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:54:49pm |
re: #20 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Ugh, beyond meltdown. And that means, what?
This.
An accident in a nuclear reactor in which melting of the fuel core (meltdown) leads to runaway melting of nuclear fuel out of the bottom of the reactor, down through the concrete mat below, and into the earth. Also known as China syndrome.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:55:21pm |
re: #20 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Ugh, beyond meltdown. And that means, what?
IT means that the molten core ate through the inner housing and melted crap into the containment vessel.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:55:55pm |
re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth
OMG y'all! Did ya hear that LudwigVanQuixote refereed to his fiance as "fair skinned"? Clearly this means something nasty.
/:sigh:
Yeah I know... I didn't realize that there was so much prejudice against pale people.
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Kibitzer 2006 Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:56:02pm |
Reminds me of (from Kevin Drum, 9/25/2006)
DID HE OR DIDN'T HE?....This story may or may not be true, but legend has it that during one of Lyndon Johnson's congressional campaigns he decided to spread a rumor that his opponent was a pig-fucker. LBJ's campaign manager said, "Lyndon, you know he doesn't do that!" Johnson replied, "I know. I just want to make him deny it."
--Kibitzer
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:57:23pm |
re: #22 Varek Raith
This.
That did not happen according to people I know from the National lab team that went to look at it. At no time did the material breach the soil. What did happen though was the inner vessel melted down and pooled into the containment vessel.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:57:50pm |
re: #27 LudwigVanQuixote
That did not happen according to people I know from the National lab team that went to look at it. At no time did the material breach the soil. What did happen though was the inner vessel melted down and pooled into the containment vessel.
Roger that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:59:47pm |
re: #25 LudwigVanQuixote
I think there's more to it than that. Like a grudge of some kind.
Look, you and I don't see eye to eye on more than maybe two things, but I wouldn't look to pick at you for something as innocent as that. There's a certain juvenile tribalism at play there, I think.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:00:28am |
re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth
I think there's more to it than that. Like a grudge of some kind.
Look, you and I don't see eye to eye on more than maybe two things, but I wouldn't look to pick at you for something as innocent as that. There's a certain juvenile tribalism at play there, I think.
Yeah, well, WIENER'S WIENER!
/Juvenile
:P
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:01:55am |
re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth
I think there's more to it than that. Like a grudge of some kind.
Look, you and I don't see eye to eye on more than maybe two things, but I wouldn't look to pick at you for something as innocent as that. There's a certain juvenile tribalism at play there, I think.
That's pretty obvious. I was making a joke of it. And I know we don't see eye to eye on everything, but I have always respected you
-even when we have argued furiously.
Meant as a compliment.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:02:04am |
re: #30 Varek Raith
You forgot to include some kind of tribalism. I am deducting three points.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:02:59am |
re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth
You forgot to include some kind of tribalism. I am deducting three points.
The Junk Envy Tribe???
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:03:47am |
re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote
And I've been meaning to ask you because I really don't understand it. I know that people in the states are worked up enough by shit like the right wing media and fox news to make death threats to scientists here, but why in Australia? I mean, what is the political dynamic there that allows this? I thought that the average Aussie was a little more willing to trust science than the typical American. Obviously this is not so. What do you think is going on?
As a nation we are often seen as laid back, I believe we are apathetic, are motto is 'She'll be right mate'.
I would suggest the population is concerned about Climate Change, however the cost of living seems more important, paying bills and keeping up is getting harder for the majority.
Why now, I would suggest it is because we are real close to pricing carbon, we expect our Labor Government (left) to set a price per tonne by July.
This tax will be paid by the industries that pollute, mainly mining, and we expect the costs to be passed down to the consumer.
Because of the flow on effect to consumers, Julia Gillard (left wing Labor Prime Minister) is going to compensate those in need, families and seniors.
I think its driving the polluters wild, and also our Liberal/National coalition (right wing). We do have some of the unions fearing job losses too, however the most recent report out suggest minimal job losses are expected.
We expect the price on carbon will be between $26-35 dollars per tonne.
I would suggest the death threats are coming from those who oppose the tax, no proof just fairly logical. Vested interests.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:08:03am |
re: #34 ozbloke
As a nation we are often seen as laid back, I believe we are apathetic, are motto is 'She'll be right mate'.
I would suggest the population is concerned about Climate Change, however the cost of living seems more important, paying bills and keeping up is getting harder for the majority.
Why now, I would suggest it is because we are real close to pricing carbon, we expect our Labor Government (left) to set a price per tonne by July.
This tax will be paid by the industries that pollute, mainly mining, and we expect the costs to be passed down to the consumer.Because of the flow on effect to consumers, Julia Gillard (left wing Labor Prime Minister) is going to compensate those in need, families and seniors.
I think its driving the polluters wild, and also our Liberal/National coalition (right wing). We do have some of the unions fearing job losses too, however the most recent report out suggest minimal job losses are expected.
We expect the price on carbon will be between $26-35 dollars per tonne.
I would suggest the death threats are coming from those who oppose the tax, no proof just fairly logical. Vested interests.
Wow... That is a truly sad mirror for the US then - save your government is actually doing something. Congrats to your government. I knew I liked Australia.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:09:59am |
re: #35 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow... That is a truly sad mirror for the US then - save your government is actually doing something. Congrats to your government. I knew I liked Australia.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:10:48am |
re: #31 LudwigVanQuixote
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret of mine....
Back in the day, when you were more measured and reasonable, and less angry and "flame-ish" in your comments here, you were without a doubt instrumental in convincing me of the seriousness of AGW.
At any rate, as much as you piss me off sometimes, I still respect you for that. Well, and maybe a few other things.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:12:52am |
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:19:08am |
re: #35 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow... That is a truly sad mirror for the US then - save your government is actually doing something. Congrats to your government. I knew I liked Australia.
Julia has been good for the lower and middle class, sadly the polls suggest she would not be returned if there was an election tomorrow.
I'm most disappointed in the under 30's in Australia.
They seem predominately to be on the right.
We have one of the highest cost of living in the western world.
Average house prices in Sydney are over $600,000. Its beyond the majority of the young, rents in Sydney on average are between $400-650 per week.
Even with two incomes, they are racing against inflation to save a deposit.
They blame the government in power.
We avoided the house price collapse in 2008, though prices have remain stagnant since.
Our seniors find it hard to make ends meet, they are most often right wing too.
Another issue is immigration 'boat people', we have people (muslims) coming by boat near weekly, our detention centres are full to overflowing.
Sadly we (not me) fear this immigration, and out left wing government tries to help them. Again, its a nail in the coffin for Labor (the left).
We are a racist country, Before Muslims, its was Asians, before that Italians, Greeks, you name it, all they way back to the second world war.
There stealing or jobs!!!
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:20:48am |
re: #39 ozbloke
Australians are even more fond of suburbia and their distant lifestyles than Americans. True energy gluttons, just like in the US and Canada.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:22:16am |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret of mine...
Back in the day, when you were more measured and reasonable, and less angry and "flame-ish" in your comments here, you were without a doubt instrumental in convincing me of the seriousness of AGW.
At any rate, as much as you piss me off sometimes, I still respect you for that. Well, and maybe a few other things.
I'll let you in on a secret, several years of pile-ons during those AGW discussions from endless streams of assholes - some still here like stevo, made me into the short tempered fellow I am. I frequently make statements that are as obvious as the nose on someone's face, but alas, ruffle delicate feathers and then spend hours dealing with it.
It got old ages ago.
I will admit to having more than one moment of temper. There has been more than one time where I have been wrong about something or said something while angry I regretted. But truly, the continual din of hypersensitive folks on one side, and simple pedantic trolls or vain attention seekers whose feelings were hurt when facts proved them wrong, on the other, with a dusting of ignorant morons has made me suffer fools much less gladly.
This is a good blog. It brings important stories to my and many other's attention. I like and respect most of the folks here. However, there are always some who know so little about the things they whine on and on about and then expect to be treated like geniuses. After they are argued against, first nicely they just don't notice any facts given to them.
I'm not talking about opinions, I mean facts. We can both argue till blue the face about what is and is not proper, or what ice cream is better or what show is better... whatever like that. Facts are different.
It gets old.
I've seen endless losers argue about if evolution happened. Or AGW, and now I see a lot of ignorant crap here about Israel. You would think from some of the posters here that Jews have no connection to that land at all and are simply being mean for no reason against perfectly innocent Arabs, who would never hurt a fly.
On a bad day, I get angry with that crap.
On a really bad day I lose my temper when I should not.
I suppose this is a long way of saying I realize how blogging can bring the dick out of all of us - including me.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:23:21am |
re: #39 ozbloke
Average house prices in Sydney are over $600,000. Its beyond the majority of the young, rents in Sydney on average are between $400-650 per week.
Hm. I know people who live in Australia who are in their 20s and already owning several pieces of real estate. I guess the situation differs wildly within the country.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:27:00am |
re: #40 freetoken
Australians are even more fond of suburbia and their distant lifestyles than Americans. True energy gluttons, just like in the US and Canada.
Your right, we have all the mod cons, our number of mobile phones per person is incredible. Most children have a computer, we have four in my home, mine the missus, and one for each kid, I have two more kids who have left home, so its not as bad as it was.
We like it easy.
We are horrific polluters as a nation per head of population.
We rape our land, and are a commodities based nation.
We don't seem to get that the resources will one day run out.
It really pisses me off.
We should be able to live off tourism, this is a wonderfully blessed nation.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:30:32am |
re: #42 000G
Hm. I know people who live in Australia who are in their 20s and already owning several pieces of real estate. I guess the situation differs wildly within the country.
Are they in a capital city?
Rural homes in smaller towns are much more affordable, but there are fewer jobs and less income.
Also we pay about $7 per gallon of fuel.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:37:09am |
re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote
I don't think Steve denies AGW, but that's something else...
I get where you're coming from. Dealing with idiots and assholes can drive a person nuts. And sometimes you reach a point where you just don't care to be civil anymore. We all have that limit. I have that limit. I've said harsh things about those who believe in various religions or other types of woo woo stuff.
But I thought you were at your best when you presented the facts, and left the flames out of it. Just my opinion.
Do what ya gotta do. I may not always agree with your style, but I'll link arms with you when I think you're in the right, and butt heads with you when I think you're in the wrong. Would you want anything less?
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:37:28am |
re: #37Slumbering Behemoth
re: #41 LudwigVanQuixote
I'll let you in on a secret, several years of pile-ons during those AGW discussions from endless streams of assholes - some still here like stevo, made me into the short tempered fellow I am. I frequently make statements that are as obvious as the nose on someone's face, but alas, ruffle delicate feathers and then spend hours dealing with it.
It got old ages ago.
I read LFG for two years before I registered.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:45:27am |
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:50:06am |
What the hell happened in the thread downstairs?
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:51:40am |
re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth
Pfft! Pussy.
/
It was a different place when I lurked.
And I ate a lot of popcorn.
I waited till some of the nastiness left.
Meow...
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:52:26am |
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:53:51am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:55:04am |
re: #50 Alexzander
What the hell happened in the thread downstairs?
:somethingsomethingsomething: *Makes innocently humorous dig at Alexzander's expense*:somethingsomethingsomething:
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:56:06am |
re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth
Pfft! Pussy.
/
lol... I did the same cause registration was always locked!
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:56:46am |
re: #50 Alexzander
What the hell happened in the thread downstairs?
I think Stinky worked some overtime.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:58:07am |
re: #53 boxhead
me too!
There was quite a bit of agro back then, and some not so pleasant people.
I eventually registered to talk with Ludwig, I much appreciated his knowledge on AGW.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:58:51am |
re: #54 Slumbering Behemoth
:somethingsomethingsomething: *Makes innocently humorous dig at Alexzander's expense*:somethingsomethingsomething:
:rageragerage: *Expresses outrage at supposedly innocent dig* :rageragerage:
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:59:11am |
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 12:59:11am |
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:00:51am |
re: #61 Alexzander
The one from Feb 21, 2009.
I guess I'm missing something. Where was that old thread referenced?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:01:28am |
re: #55 boxhead
lol... I did the same cause registration was always locked!
I caught a break. Three months after discovering LGF, I found myself recovering from a minor surgery that allowed me the time catch an open reg.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:02:02am |
re: #58 ozbloke
There was quite a bit of agro back then, and some not so pleasant people.
I eventually registered to talk with Ludwig, I much appreciated his knowledge on AGW.
I really liked the honest debate that happens here.... so rare on the internet..
heh.... when I first joined iceweasel thought I was a sock puppet and started down dinging me just because... I talked to her and she said if I was still here a year later and being cool, then she would apologize... Have not asked for that yet... she scares me.. lol
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:04:50am |
re: #64 boxhead
No commenter should ever scare you. We are all guests here, as our host allows. Hold your own and damn the dings.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:05:09am |
re: #62 freetoken
I guess I'm missing something. Where was that old thread referenced?
No I was kidding - I was talking about the general nastiness and insults found in the thread just below this one, originally concerning Breitbart's laughing at the Weiner photo. I dont have time to read 260ish comments to figure out how it devolved so far so I was hoping for a summary.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:06:21am |
re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth
I caught a break. Three months after discovering LGF, I found myself recovering from a minor surgery that allowed me the time catch an open reg.
It feels like its been a really long time since the last open registration.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:06:25am |
re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth
No commenter should ever scare you. We are all guests here, as our host allows. Hold your own and damn the dings.
I know... I was joking... 80%... :) I just did not want to be banned when I first joined for nothing..
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:08:52am |
re: #64 boxhead
I really liked the honest debate that happens here... so rare on the internet..
heh... when I first joined iceweasel thought I was a sock puppet and started down dinging me just because... I talked to her and she said if I was still here a year later and being cool, then she would apologize... Have not asked for that yet... she scares me.. lol
I like Ice, though I haven't spoken to her much, shes bright.
There are a lot of clever people here, I have posted here more than anywhere else.
I seemed to offend Alouette at some point, she never replies to me even though I have up dinged many of her comments.
I think she thinks I'm a Jew hater, it couldn't be further from the truth.
I like her, and appreciate her wealth of historical knowledge re G-ds chosen people.
I don't comment much as I'm not intimately knowledgeable about American politicians. Though I am fascinated with US politics.
I've learned a lot here, and I'm thankful.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:08:57am |
re: #68 boxhead
I know... I was joking... 80%... :) I just did not want to be banned when I first joined for nothing..
After reading for at least a year before I joined I saw group think go after folks and not always for, what I thought was actual disrespect in the forums.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:10:19am |
re: #44 ozbloke
Are they in a capital city?
No, although the exact name of the town escapes me. I think it's a suburb of Gold Coast.
Rural homes in smaller towns are much more affordable, but there are fewer jobs and less income.
I guess it's always a little more complex than assumed. I've been under the assumption that wages are pretty good in Australia on average.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:11:12am |
re: #66 Alexzander
I dont have time to read 260ish comments to figure out how it devolved so far so I was hoping for a summary.
Some folk have grudges and biases that only come out "after hours". Some are just assholes. And sometimes, you get to see the mask slip.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:12:53am |
re: #68 boxhead
I know... I was joking... 80%... :) I just did not want to be banned when I first joined for nothing..
Charles is the only one with that authority here. And you can easily disagree with him and still kick it so long as you're not an intrusive asshole about it.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:13:41am |
re: #69 ozbloke
I post other sites, but without expecting much.... Here I can have fun and meaty discussions at the same time... I have been active in internet discussions since the late 80's when I was a usenet admin and usenet ruled. Lots has changed since. Whether it has been for the good or bad is a very meaty thread. hmmm... but not at 1:13am for me... :)
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:14:01am |
re: #71 000G
No, although the exact name of the town escapes me. I think it's a suburb of Gold Coast.
I guess it's always a little more complex than assumed. I've been under the assumption that wages are pretty good in Australia on average.
Our housing prices increased tremendously between 1995 - 2008, people who bought early in that period are doing real well. What I mean by that is that there new found equity allows them to borrow.
The Gold Coast is near me, prices are dear there, the place is a 'mecca' for tourism. Theres lots of money there.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:15:13am |
re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth
Charles is the only one with that authority here. And you can easily disagree with him and still kick it so long as you're not an intrusive asshole about it.
I got that now, but when I was green, I did not want to start off on the wrong foot.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:16:22am |
re: #74 boxhead
I post other sites, but without expecting much... Here I can have fun and meaty discussions at the same time... I have been active in internet discussions since the late 80's when I was a usenet admin and usenet ruled. Lots has changed since. Whether it has been for the good or bad is a very meaty thread. hmmm... but not at 1:13am for me... :)
I ran a BBS way back when 2400 baud modems, though I have never been into the posting, but I have always got off on the technology. I'm a small time ISP and do webhosting.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:19:21am |
re: #76 boxhead
I got that now, but when I was green, I did not want to start off on the wrong foot.
I feel ya. I was piss drunk when I caught a reg window, and didn't post a comment for at least three days.
/I was also piss drunk for those other two nights
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:19:34am |
re: #77 ozbloke
I ran a BBS way back when 2400 baud modems, though I have never been into the posting, but I have always got off on the technology. I'm a small time ISP and do webhosting.
Oh, and nix nerd.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:20:22am |
re: #77 ozbloke
I ran a BBS way back when 2400 baud modems, though I have never been into the posting, but I have always got off on the technology. I'm a small time ISP and do webhosting.
sweet!.... I had a 300 baud modem for my Commodore 64... heh... I was lucky to get into Unix administration around 1985 for the Cal State University main computer site for all the campuses. My first email address was mark@calstate.edu. heh
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:23:12am |
Rachmaninoff's "Vocalise", Op.34 No.14, performed by the Philadelphia Orchestra, conducted by... the composer, in 1929!
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:25:34am |
re: #80 boxhead
sweet!... I had a 300 baud modem for my Commodore 64... heh... I was lucky to get into Unix administration around 1985 for the Cal State University main computer site for all the campuses. My first email address was mark@calstate.edu. heh
I had a commodore 64 with a disk drive and printer, and ataris, but mostly for a midi studio.
I love nix, text files for configs, so stable.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:25:54am |
re: #81 freetoken
very nice.... I wish the internet juke boxes had classical so I could blast some really good stuff like this! imagine the looks on folks faces....
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:27:13am |
She who must be obeyed has called, dinner time.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:27:29am |
re: #80 boxhead
Damn you're old. Go on up, you bald head.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:31:32am |
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YukonCornelius Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:32:07am |
re: #46 ozbloke
Heh, I registered back in July 26, 2010 but didn't post my first comment until December 27, 2010. I haven't made a whole lot of comments since then, I prefer to just read the articles and discussions which I do every day, and maybe make a page every now and then. I really like what I see here at this website, and enjoy reading the discussions that take place here.
I never really properly introduced myself either, I'll just say that I'm from Indiana, a college graduate and currently looking for a job as a High School Math Teacher.
and now I look at my computer clock and I realize that it's 4:31 AM here and should really cut this message short and get to bed now. Hope everyone has a good night.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:34:28am |
re: #82 ozbloke
I had a commodore 64 with a disk drive and printer, and ataris, but mostly for a midi studio.
I love nix, text files for configs, so stable.
oh yeah.... text config files, text log files, vi... oh sweet vi
One editor to rule them all, One editor to grep them all,
One editor to cat them all and in the darkness :wq them
In the Land of Bell Labs where the Geeks lie.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:34:56am |
re: #86 Alexzander
Just a hair shy of forty. You?
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:35:07am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:37:17am |
re: #25 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah I know... I didn't realize that there was so much prejudice against pale people.
I never mock pale people. They already suffer enough from the sunburn and such.
Except for my husband, who I get to mock because he is my beloved, and my friend Niamh who scares me because aside from freckles the woman has no melanin at all. She sunburns and then fades to pale white again. Redhead. Frightening.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:39:55am |
re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth
Damn you're old. Go on up, you bald head.
old, I guess... bald... nope... 6 brothers and not baldness. Dad 83 and no baldness... not even all gray!
heh
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:40:44am |
re: #58 ozbloke
There was quite a bit of agro back then, and some not so pleasant people.
I eventually registered to talk with Ludwig, I much appreciated his knowledge on AGW.
That really makes my day. Thank you very much.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:41:15am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:41:50am |
re: #50 Alexzander
What the hell happened in the thread downstairs?
I wish I could come up with some sort of pithy answer to that, but as God is my witness, I have no idea.
I use Almay's light-medium powder shade, if that is any help to anyone.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:42:14am |
re: #93 boxhead
:squints furiously: I hate you.
/
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:44:15am |
re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth
:squints furiously: I hate you.
/
lol.... thanks.... but we suffer from an agonizing tendency to talk smack to each other especially when one of us says something dumb... good times!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:44:19am |
re: #95 Alexzander
A few hairs short of thirty.
It's all down hill from there, bro. I suggest you do what I haven't for some time, and exercise regularly. If you don't already, that is.
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Alexzander Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:46:58am |
re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth
It's all down hill from there, bro. I suggest you do what I haven't for some time, and exercise regularly. If you don't already, that is.
Yeah I've noticed that over the last year, as I stopped having necessary reasons for exercise (used to bike to work, had to walk a lot at work). I'm sure my girlfriend would appreciate the extra exercise. Speaking of which I should join her in bed as she's probably wondering what the hell I'm doing up right now. Later all.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:48:20am |
Out of curiosity I did go check the archives to see what happened on Feb 21, 2009 here... a couple of posts on creationism, one on AGW, one on Glenn Beck... lots of popcorn needed to read those threads.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:48:58am |
re: #98 boxhead
lol... thanks... but we suffer from an agonizing tendency to talk smack to each other especially when one of us says something dumb... good times!
Aw no. That shit is fun. It takes real love to talk smack and not let it get ugly.
My oldest friend and I talk the most heinous smack, the kind that would burn pubic hairs, and there is no doubt in our hearts that either of us would take a bullet for each other, or our respective family members.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:49:31am |
re: #101 freetoken
Out of curiosity I did go check the archives to see what happened on Feb 21, 2009 here... a couple of posts on creationism, one on AGW, one on Glenn Beck... lots of popcorn needed to read those threads.
Make sure you have a real popcorn machine. nuked corn blows.... IMHO.. :)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:51:23am |
re: #100 Alexzander
Even if you don't "look" good right away, you'll "feel" good pretty damn quick. And that's the most important thing in my estimation. G'nite.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:51:26am |
re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth
Aw no. That shit is fun. It takes real love to talk smack and not let it get ugly.
My oldest friend and I talk the most heinous smack, the kind that would burn pubic hairs, and there is no doubt in our hearts that either of us would take a bullet for each other, or our respective family members.
awesome.... I remember hanging with friends and what we did for fun was talk shit to each other... it was hilarious.. Especially when we were others who were not so skilled in the fine art of ball busting...
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:56:09am |
re: #5 Dark_Falcon
Johnson was an asshole. He did a great thing in getting the Civil Rights Act of
1964 passed, but he also created welfare programs that failed at massive cost, and escalated American involvement in Vietnam in a fashion that showed appalling ignorance of the situation there.
The two are not unrelated: he had to pursue the war in Vietnam in order to get conservatives to support his progressive social programs, and wound up not having the funding or the focus to do either right.
He should've known from the examples of Napoleon and Hitler that you cannot fight a two-front war...
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:57:08am |
re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist
I wish I could come up with some sort of pithy answer to that, but as God is my witness, I have no idea.
I use Almay's light-medium powder shade, if that is any help to anyone.
very often it is I that kills threads. either cause I am a bore, or I tend to post in the wee hours.. :p
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 1:58:41am |
re: #101 freetoken
I was always struck by the naked hostility displayed by some in the evolution threads back then. As if the mere idea of simply discussing established science was a persecution tantamount to the Holocaust.
Strange folk indeed, who meet such intellectual challenges with such disgusting fantasies.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:01:33am |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm still following up on the Adam & Eve & genetics story. That the leading evangelical magazine even broached the issue is causing a disturbance in the force, so to speak. The religious community is kind of slow (wrt online things) to respond, but the religious conservatives are trying to circle the wagons, but there are holes in the defense. I think some of the younger ones, or those pastors who try to connect more with the larger society, are open to the idea that the geneticists just might be right.
Gnashing of teeth all 'round.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:01:36am |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
I was always struck by the naked hostility displayed by some in the evolution threads back then. As if the mere idea of simply discussing established science was a persecution tantamount to the Holocaust.
Strange folk indeed, who meet such intellectual challenges with such disgusting fantasies.
same today, different boogie man. *sigh*
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:03:36am |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
We are dealing with a lot of people who are very weak in the very basics of science: what constitutes a fact, a hypothesis, a theory and how the three fit together.
"Evolution is bnot a fact, it is just a theory"
Yes, it started as a hypothesis, and has been confiremd by facts from all aspects of biology, chemistry and even physics. That makes it a very well founded theory.
Intelligent Design is not a theory, it is a hypothesis, it cannot be confirmed or refuted by facts, as there is no way of measuring or quantifying a Supreme Being.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:04:24am |
re: #105 boxhead
The dozens. Wasn't very good at it in grade school, by I've gotten better. And the better I know you, the better I get.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:06:27am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth
The dozens. Wasn't very good at it in grade school, by I've gotten better. And the better I know you, the better I get.
oh my gawd... I woke my dog watching that... wow.... I loved that show..
thanks!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:07:37am |
re: #110 freetoken
I look forward to your page/post.
You're a highly respectable bastard in my estimation.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:09:00am |
re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth
I remember the highlight of Patrick Melaine vs. Melvin Gates in Gary, Indiana, 1968:
"Yo' mama look like Superman and yo' fatha look like Rin-Tin-Tin!"
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:09:48am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
Intelligent Design is not a theory, it is a hypothesis...
Even with that, I think you are being too kind. Not that I disagree, mind you.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:11:44am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:12:01am |
re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth
It is at best an unproveable hypothesis. But it can never be more than a statement of faith.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:14:16am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:21:26am |
Drunk, surly, and time to bail.
Peace out, Lizards.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:21:47am |
re: #120 ralphieboy
It is at best an unproveable hypothesis. But it can never be more than a statement of faith.
If one believes in a Higher Power, wouldn't the creation of the universe by one "big bang" that led via all the physical laws to the world we see today be quite the miracle the religious folks want to exist?
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:25:42am |
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:25:56am |
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freetoken Thu, Jun 9, 2011 2:33:07am |
re: #124 boxhead
Follow the links to CT and BioLogos and follow carefully what the arguments really are.
What's being presented to the creationists is yet another challenge, one which they are pretty much ignoring, just treating it like it's the same old evolution.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:09:30am |
re: #25 LudwigVanQuixote
ONE OF MY GREATEST LOVERS WAS ALSO SO FAIR, FAIR AS A SPRING DAY, A FAIR-SKINNED CREATURE WITH THE LOWER TORSO OF A MASSIVE FIDDLER CRAB, SHE SAT PRONE AND WAITING, ON A BED THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ONLY FOR HER
HEIGHT 13'4"
SKIN: FAIR, SO FAIR, A CARAPACE LIKE YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE
HAIR: NONE
BLOODTYPE: UNKNOWN
GUNDAM: IRRELEVANT
SHE ONCE WHISPERED INTO MY EAR OF A MIRROR WORLD, WITH ITS OWN MIRROR GOD. ONE COULD UNLOCK IT WITH THE PROPER KEY, AND WITH MORE PROPER CONCENTRATION. HER MIND WAS ABSOLUTE WHEN WE BEDDED TOGETHER, GENDER WAS DISCARDED AS LEAVES ARE DISCARDED IN FALL, FRAGMENTS OF RIDICULOUS HUMANITY LEFT ON COBBLESTONE STREETS LIKE SO MANY PEANUT SHELLS
A BLACK-YET-CAUCASIAN QUEER HUMANOID WITH THE MERE MINIMUM OF FOUR LIMBS SUCH AS MYSELF, I HAD NO IDEA OF THE GATES THAT WOULD BE UNFURLED AT THE SLIGHTEST MENTION
AWASH AND YET BETWEEN THE MANY DOORWAYS I DARE NOT DESCRIBE, I PASSED THROUGH EACH ONE AS IF A CHILD, UNDONE AND RECONSTRUCTED WITH A VIGOR, EACH PART OF ME THRUST INTO EACH OTHER PART, STABBING SENSATION THAT RELEASES AN OCEAN OF ECSTASY AND UNDERSTANDING
A CRAB NOW
A CRAB FILLS MY VISION
THE GOD OF GODS IS A CRAB, AN ETERNAL CRAB
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:12:50am |
re: #123 boxhead
If one believes in a Higher Power, wouldn't the creation of the universe by one "big bang" that led via all the physical laws to the world we see today be quite the miracle the religious folks want to exist?
It certainly can be, but if you insist on a literal reading of the Biblical text, then you have to reject science.
And if you really want to be really literal, you have to reject parts of the Bible, as it contradicts itself in places, but that is what the death-defying bungee leap of faith is about...
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:14:01am |
re: #128 WindUpBird
You wee lucky, my greatest lover just had crabs...
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EdDantes Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:28:53am |
re: #128 WindUpBird
You had sex with an arthropod? You're one up on me.
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:54:50am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 3:55:15am |
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:07:57am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:10:12am |
Having a small chat with a FB friend I haven't seen in a while. We have talked about getting together for a couple beers. She's still hot and likes baseball.
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:11:35am |
re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar
Having a small chat with a FB friend I haven't seen in a while. We have talked about getting together for a couple beers. She's still hot and likes baseball.
A match made in heaven.
Or the bleachers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:14:24am |
re: #140 researchok
A match made in heaven.
Or under the bleachers.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:21:00am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:22:37am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:24:45am |
re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar
Oooh, I wish I had the junk the size of Weiner's
That is what I'd truly like to see-ee-ee...
'Cause if I had the junk the size of Weiner's
Any girl would go under the bleachers with me.
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Flounder Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:24:54am |
re: #145 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm going to be laughing all day with that image in my head. Cue the porno music!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:26:37am |
re: #147 Shropshire_Slasher
I'm going to be laughing all day with that image in my head. Cue the porno music!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:27:53am |
re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I gave you an upding, but next time work in the word Nantucket.
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:29:33am |
re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar
There once was a man from Nantucket
Who kept all his gold in a bucket
His daughter named Nan
Ran off with a man
And as for the bucket? Nan took it.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:33:05am |
re: #129 ralphieboy
It certainly can be, but if you insist on a literal reading of the Biblical text, then you have to reject science.
And if you really want to be really literal, you have to reject parts of the Bible, as it contradicts itself in places, but that is what the death-defying bungee leap of faith is about...
Yep... I certainly do not take the Bible literally. The portions that deal with compassion are very good. Explaining science is not in its realm.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:33:18am |
Cool. She's down with getting a beer. Now I gotta get to work. See ya'll this afternoon.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:35:17am |
There once was a Congressmen Wiener
whose junk shot was really full-screener
He sent it on twitter
and wound up in the shitter
and nothing about him came cleaner
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:36:20am |
re: #151 boxhead
Yep... I certainly do not take the Bible literally. The portions that deal with compassion are very good. Explaining science is not in its realm.
Please explain that to those who think it is a science book, a history text, a legal codex or a treatise on principles taxation and economics.
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boxhead Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:42:45am |
re: #154 ralphieboy
Please explain that to those who think it is a science book, a history text, a legal codex or a treatise on principles taxation and economics.
I have with mixed results. Not really a fun endeavor.
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Jimmah Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:53:39am |
Myth of Dawkins as an intolerant, atheist crusader is just that -- myth
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 4:58:50am |
re: #156 Jimmah
I've always been weirded out by people's harshness towards Dawkins. I think they confuse two things: his contempt for certain kinds of extremist religion, like when he argued with that imam (though most Westerners probably loved that), and his philosophical atheism.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:02:10am |
re: #157 Obdicut
I'm kinda bothered by the support of Pat Condell has been getting from the leading atheists, incl. Dawkins. Although this may be a thing of the past. At least I hope so.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:10:12am |
re: #158 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, there's that. Condell's objections to the Park51 project, for example, are not noticeable different from any knuckle-draggers. Nor was Hitchens'. I don't like Condell, and I think Dawkins is being stupid for defending him.
However, that's part and parcel of the extremist religion part, and not the philosophical atheism bit.
I do think that in the 'politics' area, like talking about how we should deal with religion in society, Dawkins goes too far, and makes, ironically, a similar argument to those who want to torture terrorists; that we have to act as badly as our opponents in order to actually fight them.
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Flounder Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:17:41am |
I'm all outta butter so I put fluff in my oatmeal, pretty damn yummy!
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Jimmah Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:20:55am |
re: #159 Obdicut
I do think that in the 'politics' area, like talking about how we should deal with religion in society, Dawkins goes too far, and makes, ironically, a similar argument to those who want to torture terrorists; that we have to act as badly as our opponents in order to actually fight them.
What did he say, exactly?
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:21:27am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:32:39am |
Morning Lizardim. Cool and cloudy here in the wild north country, threatening to rain on my fishing vacation this weekend. Whine whimper pout complain.
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Flounder Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:40:50am |
re: #165 thedopefishlives
They say if it rains the fishing will be good, and if it rains on your wedding day you will have a happy marriage, and the check is in the mail and...
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:45:22am |
re: #166 Shropshire_Slasher
They say if it rains the fishing will be good, and if it rains on your wedding day you will have a happy marriage, and the check is in the mail and...
...You're from the government and you're here to help?
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Lidane Thu, Jun 9, 2011 5:45:25am |
Somebody needs to Page this because it's hilarious in its ignorance. I'd do it myself, but I need to get ready for work:
Bryan Fischer: Gays Ought To Be Ashamed, National Borders Were Set By God
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:06:16am |
re: #169 Ojoe
Good morning all!
Great dawn shot...
Although the MISSLE SILO in the lower left is a bit disconcerting!!
//
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:07:06am |
re: #163 Jimmah
Dawkins.
[Link: richarddawkins.net...]
Dawkins said this in defense of Condell:
He may sound extreme, but that could just reflect the extremes he is fighting against. I don't know the corresponding figures for America, but polls in Britain suggest that an alarmingly high percentage of young British Muslims support the terrorists of 9/11 and 7/7, and some 40% of Muslims want Sharia Law introduced into Britain. Disquietingly high percentages supported the death sentence against Salman Rushdie and the threats of violence against the Danish cartoonists. Even 'moderate' Muslim leaders support the principle that apostasy deserves the death penalty, even if they are too nice to carry out the sentence themselves. I think it is well arguable that Islam is the greatest man-made force for evil in the world today. Pat Condell is one of the few with the courage to say so. Before condemning his 'extremism', at least consider the possibility that it may be justified.
He's doing much of the same things those on the right do-- lumping all moderate Muslims into one pot, treating Islam as though it's monolithic, etc. I'm not going to less it pass just because he's an atheist like me.
Not to mention that Condell is in a political party that has Monkton as chief scientific adviser; that alone should be enough for Dawkins to distance himself from Condell.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:10:10am |
Once again, States are working to discount lives of women in in favor of the "pre-born".
doncha just love the jargon.
twit, facebook, copy and paste --spread the word.
How is everyone this morning?
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:11:41am |
re: #169 Ojoe
I'm not falling for that schtick again... you guys blinded me yesterday or the day before with that webcam ;)
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:12:04am |
re: #173 ggt
It's clear and sunny... Doing great here...but I have the rest of the day to screw that up!! LOL
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iossarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:12:09am |
re: #172 Obdicut
Someone like Dawkins, who likes to remind people that he's an intelligent chap, should really be able to foresee the consequences of using the following sentence:
I think it is well arguable that Islam is the greatest man-made force for evil in the world today.
It isn't even helped much by the context.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:13:08am |
re: #173 ggt
I love FB, but I am starting to delete the serial "cut and paste if you agree" dumb-asses.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:14:02am |
re: #174 Ericus58
I'm not falling for that schtick again... you guys blinded me yesterday or the day before with that webcam ;)
He got me today. I'm typing by feel as I ice my retinas.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:14:21am |
re: #175 reloadingisnotahobby
It's clear and sunny... Doing great here...but I have the rest of the day to screw that up!! LOL
ooohweee, we've been having some storm in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland. It was a dark and storming morning . . . .dogs even REFUSED to go out.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:15:07am |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love FB, but I am starting to delete the serial "cut and paste if you agree" dumb-asses.
If you like ice cream, cut and paste. . .
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:15:57am |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love FB, but I am starting to delete the serial "cut and paste if you agree" dumb-asses.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:16:08am |
Remember kids...
"The likelihood that your being watched is directly proportionate
to the stupidity of your actions"!
Have a great day!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:17:48am |
Lately, my fb page has been nothing but Planned Parenthood. I have about 4 friends who "like" or comment. I have a feeling the rest ignore it. WTF --at least they have to scan it to ignore it.
This stuff has me so riled up I could care about anyone who disagrees. These are MY rights that are being challenged. Fuck anyone who helps the theocrats.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:19:03am |
re: #183 reloadingisnotahobby
Smart dogs!!
Not nearly as smart as the Cat Overlord. He thought ahead a generation or two and has his own potty room.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:19:52am |
Good morning lizards! It was a hot and steamy day walking around yesterday. I am not looking forward to a replay today. I have water jugs in the freezer ready to go.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:21:36am |
re: #176 iossarian
Yeah. It just gets into an endless category discussion; if Islam is the greatest man-made force for evil, then does that mean religion, which Islam is a subset of, is? Does any Muslim, no matter how liberalized and moderate, form part of this group "Islam"? If not, why not? Etc.
I think Dawkins is by far superior to most of his detractors in terms of his tone and reasonableness, but on occasion he stakes out a position that's a bridge too far. This is one of those times.
A lot of what he says is true-- but, as this blog says, quite well:
[Link: norwegianshooter.blogspot.com...]
Free speech allows people (even Muslims!) to say what they want. You don't have to like it, but you have to defend their right to say it. Remember these are words and not actions.Blanket statements about 'moderate' Muslim leaders are wrong. Where is Dawkins' evidence? Is there some poll of 'moderate' Muslim leaders out there I don't know about? Even if there is, how the h-e-double-toothpicks did they do the poll? It's impossible to do.
Blanket statements about 'moderate' Muslim leaders are irrelevant. The issue involves one moderate Muslim leader, Imam Rauf. Please limit your criticism to him and others directly involved in the project.
Fine, make your argument that "Islam is the greatest man-made force for evil in the world today." What are you going to do about it besides public criticism? Is denying a few American Muslims their Constitutional right to religious freedom a suitable substitute for changing worldwide Islam?
Note: I like that blog quite a lot but it's considerably different from me in many ways. I recommend it but I don't share all its views.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:21:53am |
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:22:09am |
re: #184 ggt
My avatar/picture/whatever on FB is just the "I stand with Planned Parenthood" logo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:22:42am |
re: #184 ggt
You'll get an ulcer if you don't learn how to open up.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:23:07am |
Well ain't this a bit terrifying.
'The day after Iran's first nuclear test is a normal day'
Any mention of an Iranian nuclear weapon is taboo in the Islamic Republic, which insists that its nuclear programme is entirely for peaceful, civil purposes. So it is remarkable, to say the least, that an article has appeared on the Gerdab website, run by Iran's Revolutionary Guards, anticipating the day after Iran's first test of a nuclear warhead. Here is a translation of the text:
The day after Iran's first nuclear test is a normal day.
The day after Islamic Republic of Iran's first nuclear test will be an ordinary day for us Iranians but in the eyes of some of us there will be a new sparkle.
It's a good day. It's seven in the morning. The sun is not fully up yet but everywhere is bright. In the northern hemisphere many countries are beginning the day...
The day before, probably in central deserts of Iran, where once Americans and some other Western countries wanted to bury their nuclear waste, an underground nuclear explosion has taken place. The strength of the explosion was not so great as to cause severe damage to the region nor so weak that Iranian scientists face any problems in running their tests.
Today is a normal day like any other. Like 90% of the year, there is news about Iran, and these are the headlines which can be seen on foreign news sites:
Reuters: Iran detonated its nuclear bomb
CNN: Iran detonated nuclear bomb
Al-Jazeera: The second Islamic nuclear bomb was tested
Al-Arabia: The Shia nuclear bomb was tested
Yahoo! News: Nuclear explosion in Iran
Jerusalem Post: Mullahs obtained nuclear weapon
Washington Post: Nuclear explosion in Iran, Shock and despair in Tel Aviv
Meanwhile, the domestic media will offer many congratulations to the Hidden Imam and the Supreme Leader:
Keyhan: Iran's first nuclear bomb was tested
Jomhoori-e-eslami: Iran successfully carried out a nuclear test
Iran: By order of the president, Iran's 100% homemade nuclear bomb was tested
Ettela'at: Iran's much anticipated nuclear bomb explodedThis strange, hypothetical, article, which first appeared on April 24, hammers home again and again the message that an Iranian nuclear test will not lead to disaster.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:24:01am |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:24:40am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:25:56am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:26:10am |
My anniversary weekend and I'm on call....
Think I'll by my wife a new Vacuum just to keep things lively!!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:26:43am |
re: #196 reloadingisnotahobby
My anniversary weekend and I'm on call...
Think I'll by my wife a new Vacuum just to keep things lively!!
You may be sleeping with the vacuum if you do that . . . .
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darthstar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:28:04am |
Mornin' all...eyes still sleepy...just read reloading's post as "Valium" and not "vacuum"...
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:28:04am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:28:17am |
re: #197 ggt
You may be sleeping with the vacuum if you do that . . .
Depends on the wife. If I bought my wife a new vacuum, she'd probably give me a big hug, then hand it to me and say "Now go vacuum the basement for me, sweet husband."
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:29:10am |
re: #200 thedopefishlives
Depends on the wife. If I bought my wife a new vacuum, she'd probably give me a big hug, then hand it to me and say "Now go vacuum the basement for me, sweet husband."
My husband would NEVER buy such a thing as a gift. He doesn't like to vacuum.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:30:19am |
Somehow, the Cat Overlord has trained the puppy to "groom" his (the Cat's) ears.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:30:37am |
re: #201 ggt
My husband would NEVER buy such a thing as a gift. He doesn't like to vacuum.
The only reason I'd even consider it is because my wife has been complaining recently about our current one, which "sucks (in the bad way)," as she put it. She would actually like to get one, although I don't think it would quite work as an anniversary gift.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:32:34am |
re: #202 ggt
Somehow, the Cat Overlord has trained the puppy to "groom" his (the Cat's) ears.
We have two feline overlords in our basement; one of them is a genuine 100% Basement Cat, even. They have taken to grooming each other on occasion. It's particularly hilarious when one wants to groom and the other will have none of it.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:34:03am |
re: #203 thedopefishlives
The only reason I'd even consider it is because my wife has been complaining recently about our current one, which "sucks (in the bad way)," as she put it. She would actually like to get one, although I don't think it would quite work as an anniversary gift.
You'd be better off giving her jewelry AND a hunk of cash to go buy whatever vacuum she wants . . . .
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:35:03am |
re: #204 thedopefishlives
We have two feline overlords in our basement; one of them is a genuine 100% Basement Cat, even. They have taken to grooming each other on occasion. It's particularly hilarious when one wants to groom and the other will have none of it.
Cat has been having LOTS of fun with the puppy. It would almost be worth the entertainment value to get a new puppy every year.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:35:24am |
Education Department S.W.A.T. team raids California home
A S.W.A.T. team with orders from the U.S. Department of Education broke into a California home at 6 a.m. Tuesday and reportedly roughed up a man because of a student aid issue involving his estranged wife. His wife was not present.
In 2010, the Post’s Valerie Strauss reported that the Education Department was purchasing 27 Remington Brand Model 870 police 12-gauge shotguns to replace old firearms used by Education’s Office of Inspector General, which is the law enforcement arm of the department. DoE said the guns were necessary to help enforce “waste, fraud, abuse, and other criminal activity involving Federal education funds, programs, and operations.”
Kenneth Wright says his house was raided because of his wife’s unpaid loans. One blogger speculated that we finally know what those guns are being used for.
But the Department of Education told Reason Magazine Wednesday that the SWAT team raided the house because of a criminal investigation, not a student loan.
“The Inspector General's Office does not execute search warrants for late loan payments,” the statement said. DoE did not get into the specifics of the case, but says “the offices conducts raids on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds.”
Wright says he was grabbed by the neck and handcuffed as the officers searched his house. Stockton says he was put in a police car in his underwear along with his three young children.
“They busted down my door for this. It wasn’t even me,” Wright told the local news station News 10. “All I want is an apology for me and my kids and for them to get me a new door.”
Wright has no previous criminal record, according to News 10.
The U.S. Department of Education has a SWAT team? I didn't know that.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:35:59am |
re: #205 ggt
You'd be better off giving her jewelry AND a hunk of cash to go buy whatever vacuum she wants . . .
That would depend on me making lots and lots of dough, which, unfortunately, I don't.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:37:01am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
Education Department S.W.A.T. team raids California home
The U.S. Department of Education has a SWAT team? I didn't know that.
SOCIALISM11!!!!!
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:37:46am |
Woah, I guess the storm is really bad here. Just got a TXT that flooding had closed one of the semi-main roads.
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iossarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:38:19am |
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:38:45am |
re: #205 ggt
You'd be better off giving her jewelry AND a hunk of cash to go buy whatever vacuum she wants . . .
Wise advice. Very wise advice.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:40:13am |
My wife used to be a professional jewelry designer and maker, so buying her jewelry is always nerve-wracking for me.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:40:17am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:41:18am |
re: #214 Guanxi88
Pay her now or pay her later, as it were.
Love every minute of it and say "Thank you".
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:41:55am |
re: #213 Obdicut
My wife used to be a professional jewelry designer and maker, so buying her jewelry is always nerve-wracking for me.
Yeah, my wife does beading in her spare time and sells her pieces. I never buy her jewelry unless it's, like, diamonds. Which is to say, I can probably count on one hand the number of pieces I've bought her, but they've all been stunningly beautiful.
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darthstar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:42:22am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
Education Department S.W.A.T. team raids California home
The U.S. Department of Education has a SWAT team? I didn't know that.
I read the linked article at the bottom of the one you copy/pasted - not much more detail, but it sounds like the guy's estranged wife has racked up more than a couple of semesters worth of student loans. My guess is she probably has dozens of loans under different aliases...she'll be busted soon enough.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:42:26am |
re: #215 ggt
Love every minute of it and say "Thank you".
Yeah, that seems to be in the contract as well, although I'm pretty sure it's in print too fine to be seen. Think if falls somewhere between the severability clause and the "venue for such action shall lie" clause.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:43:35am |
re: #213 Obdicut
My wife used to be a professional jewelry designer and maker, so buying her jewelry is always nerve-wracking for me.
I may be able to help, lots on contacts in the biz, both coasts. Drop me an email if you like.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:44:20am |
re: #213 Obdicut
My wife used to be a professional jewelry designer and maker, so buying her jewelry is always nerve-wracking for me.
Tiffany & Co.
Shreve, Crump, and Lowe (if you're in Beantown)
Can't go wrong either way.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:45:35am |
re: #219 Rightwingconspirator
I may be able to help, lots on contacts in the biz, both coasts. Drop me an email if you like.
Heh. Thanks. I only do it for very special occasions; most of the time I go with nice stuff that she wouldn't otherwise ever get for herself.
For our anniversary this year, I'm getting her a fountain pen, for example.
I better buy it soon, it's coming up.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:50:18am |
And in the end, my wife just made our wedding rings herself, since we couldn't find anything elsewhere to suit her well enough.
I love my ring. It's an irregular heptagon, with the fine lines from the molding not sanded out. The corners are getting rounded down over time. I really like the idea that it will change as I get older.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:52:21am |
re: #217 darthstar
I read the linked article at the bottom of the one you copy/pasted - not much more detail, but it sounds like the guy's estranged wife has racked up more than a couple of semesters worth of student loans. My guess is she probably has dozens of loans under different aliases...she'll be busted soon enough.
I can understand the government wanting their money but to send a SWAT team to get it...you really think that's necessary?
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:53:02am |
re: #223 NJDhockeyfan
I think the whole home-invasion-to-get-suspects thing is massively inefficient, no matter who they're going after. It also gets citizens, and cops, shot.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:53:13am |
Incredible pictures:
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:53:26am |
re: #222 Obdicut
And in the end, my wife just made our wedding rings herself, since we couldn't find anything elsewhere to suit her well enough.
I love my ring. It's an irregular heptagon, with the fine lines from the molding not sanded out. The corners are getting rounded down over time. I really like the idea that it will change as I get older.
My wife prefers non-traditional looks to her jewelry. Specifically, she's into intricately designed bands for rings. That gave me a dickens of a time trying to find an engagement ring for her, because I knew she was very particular about the band and how detailed it was. I managed to hit a home run on that score, though, thanks to the power of the Internet.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:55:47am |
Drudge linking to Alex Jones again....
Breaking: Secret Bilderberg Agenda Leaked by Mole
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:58:45am |
re: #227 Killgore Trout
Drudge linking to Alex Jones again...
Breaking: Secret Bilderberg Agenda Leaked by Mole
Seriously? What assholes.
I mean, it's got the whole Rothschild smear in it. The Bilderberg group conspiracy is directly antisemitic.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:59:06am |
re: #228 Obdicut
Nice going.
Danforth Diamonds is the place. You might want to take a look at it; they have a lot of different looks from "traditional" jewelry. Also, I notice that some main-line jewelry stores are starting to carry more of the designer stuff, as opposed to the stock "simple band with a huge setting and a gianormous rock on top."
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 9, 2011 6:59:28am |
So here's my Weiner question:
Suppose Weiner immediately said something like:
"Yes, that is a very unfortunate personal photo, that I accidentally sent out publicly. I hope that anyone who's ever inadvertently sent an email to the wrong person, or who hit "reply all" by mistake, will understand my embarrassment and forgive me."
Would it have died down the next day?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:00:04am |
re: #229 Obdicut
Seriously? What assholes.
I mean, it's got the whole Rothschild smear in it. The Bilderberg group conspiracy is directly antisemitic.
The Alex Jones article also uses Pat Buchanan as a source.
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:00:46am |
re: #1 LudwigVanQuixote
This has really been a great day of posts. It's nice to see LGF pissing of cretins like Breitbart and his fans so much. Someone needs to do it.
Though Breitbart lives on attention. Are we just fanning his flames?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:00:48am |
re: #231 reuven
So here's my Weiner question:
Suppose Weiner immediately said something like:
Would it have died down the next day?
Absolutely.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:01:53am |
re: #231 reuven
So here's my Weiner question:
Suppose Weiner immediately said something like:
Would it have died down the next day?
Probably not. All the chicks he was flirting with were probably going to release thier chat logs, emails and pics. This thing needed to run its course. Hopefully it will be over soon.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:03:10am |
"died down the next day"
teehee, I was thinking it would have "died down" in much less time that that.. . . .
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:03:50am |
re: #235 Killgore Trout
Probably not. All the chicks he was flirting with were probably going to release thier chat logs, emails and pics. This thing needed to run its course. Hopefully it will be over soon.
I hope so too. It's getting old fast. As long as new stuff comes out it will stay in the headlines. Of course Weiner could resign but I think his ego won't let him.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:04:03am |
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darthstar Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:05:02am |
re: #231 reuven
So here's my Weiner question:
Suppose Weiner immediately said something like:
Would it have died down the next day?
It wouldn't have died down, but admitting he did it and claiming he had a sexual addiction would have changed the narrative - he'd be sympathized with for having an illness, and Breitbart would be seen as the stalker that he is for pursuing more pictures of him.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:05:31am |
re: #238 NJDhockeyfan
I hope so too. It's getting old fast. As long as new stuff comes out it will stay in the headlines. Of course Weiner could resign but I think his ego won't let him.
I have to wonder what kind of treatment he is getting at home. If I found out my husband was having a sexting relationship--I think I'd puke. Any thoughts I might have had about him being an 40+ year old adolescent would have been confirmed.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:06:07am |
re: #229 Obdicut
Seriously? What assholes.
I mean, it's got the whole Rothschild smear in it. The Bilderberg group conspiracy is directly antisemitic.
I always wonder - there is no rational way to distinguish between CTs, so how do people choose to believe the Illuminati but not the Elders of Zion, etc. Jones doesn't strike me as explicitly antisemitic - at least he tries - but if he believes all the stuff he does, on what grounds does he dismiss the explicit Jewish conspiracy theories? Or does he?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:07:32am |
re: #241 ggt
I have to wonder what kind of treatment he is getting at home. If I found out my husband was having a sexting relationship--I think I'd puke. Any thoughts I might have had about him being an 40+ year old adolescent would have been confirmed.
She joined Hillary and left the country. He's probably feeling very lonely right now. I don't think there is a single member of his party trying to show him some support. He's on his own.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:07:35am |
There seems to be a "break" in the storm. Maybe doggies will go out, maybe they won't . . . .
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:07:43am |
Breitbart Charges Huma Pregnancy a 'PR Attempt'
ANDREW BREITBART: Well, this information was selectively put out there by their camp, and I think that it's probably a PR attempt to try and inject her into it because when you hear that -- when you hear Huma, you are sympathetic towards her. When you hear of Huma and pregnancy, you start to feel a level of sympathy.
And so I -- I -- my belief is that this is a ploy to make people not want to continue to report about what type of behavior he's been involved with. You know, where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Lidane Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:08:58am |
re: #229 Obdicut
Seriously? What assholes.
I mean, it's got the whole Rothschild smear in it. The Bilderberg group conspiracy is directly antisemitic.
Alex Jones always talks about the Bilderberg group. Every time I've had the misfortune of listening to his radio show he's either selling gold or harping on them and on "the banks".
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:09:31am |
re: #246 Lidane
Alex Jones always talks about the Bilderberg group. Every time I've had the misfortune of listening to his radio show he's either selling gold or harping on them and on "the banks".
Anyone buying gold right now is plain stupid. . . . . .
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:10:19am |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
And that's how you once again bring sympathy back on Huma and Weiner... Breitbart once again shows that he's a jackass by claiming that a pregnancy is a PR stunt, even though multiple family, close friends and associates were told about the pending pregnancy over the past couple of weeks - predating the scandal breaking.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:11:23am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:11:55am |
off to start my day.
Have a great one all!
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:13:21am |
re: #248 lawhawk
And that's how you once again bring sympathy back on Huma and Weiner... Breitbart once again shows that he's a jackass by claiming that a pregnancy is a PR stunt, even though multiple family, close friends and associates were told about the pending pregnancy over the past couple of weeks - predating the scandal breaking.
It's completely stupid. Also his claim about being told there were no cameras in the studio is absurd. He's being openly filmed the entire time, there are cameras all over the studio and there's even a guy behind Breitbart packing and unpacking cameras and video gear.
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Lidane Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:13:45am |
re: #247 ggt
Anyone buying gold right now is plain stupid. . . .
True, but you'll never convince them of that.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:14:37am |
re: #247 ggt
[Link: www.kitco.com...] - those charts suggest that gold prices have steadily risen over the past decade, and that could be the sign of a bubble - or that demand keeps increasing because there are few other safe havens to stash cash that provide quality ROR.
Meanwhile, reports today are indicating that inflation isn't the top concern among economists. It's stagflation. Wages are flat, meaning that higher costs of living are eating into limited wages, causing people to cannibalize their wages/savings to pay for higher costs rather than new spending.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:16:21am |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
How is this repulsive clown tolerated? Even the people he serves should want a protective barrier between themselves and his shamelessness.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:16:27am |
re: #242 Sergey Romanov
I always wonder - there is no rational way to distinguish between CTs, so how do people choose to believe the Illuminati but not the Elders of Zion, etc. Jones doesn't strike me as explicitly antisemitic - at least he tries - but if he believes all the stuff he does, on what grounds does he dismiss the explicit Jewish conspiracy theories? Or does he?
There are irrational ways to distinguish between CTs, however. Because a conspiracy theorist is, by definition, predisposed to ignore evidence contrary to his own beliefs, he can magically handwave away any attempt to link his pet theory to something "crazy."
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:18:41am |
Anthony Weiner-inspired condoms on sale
...Two days after Weiner confessed to publishing a Twitter photograph of his erect penis, Practice Safe Policy launched Weiner Condoms, which, according to the business’s site, is “sure to last longer than [Weiner's] marriage.”
Capitalism!
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Gus Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:18:55am |
re: #254 Decatur Deb
How is this repulsive clown tolerated? Even the people he serves should want a protective barrier between themselves and his shamelessness.
Easily. Have you ever watched what's on cable TV these days? This is America. The land of Lindsay Lohan, Donald Trump and Paris Hilton. He's just a part of the new American exceptionalism.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:24:32am |
A peace-loving representative of Hamas discusses how Hamas views peace...
Khaled al-Qoddoumi said Hamas would not pay any attention to the negative propaganda of the western media that Hamas should or would withdraw from the path of resistance.
In a first interview with Iranian media after arriving in Tehran, Qoddoumi, who replaced Osama abd al-Mo’ti early in May, said Israel has no belief in living alongside the Palestinian nation.
The senior Hamas member refuted any option of compromise with Israel and underlined resistance as the only way of struggling with the occupiers and restoring the rights of the Palestinian nation. He predicted that one day, the Quds would return to the lap of the world of Islam.
Asked about the status and position of resistance in Palestine and its destiny, the Hamas envoy said the Palestinian resistant people has stood fast to the way of resistance while the form of such resistance have varied from stone throwing to military confrontation to missile firing to popular demonstrations. “Today, the nation has kept the path alongside the Arab world, Muslims and all free people of the world,” he added.
Asked whether the Palestinian nation considers the option of compromise with Israel as legitimate, he said the Palestinian nation sees no reason to approve the option as it sees compromise as a futile and useless way. “The Israeli side has never sought peace. They have no belief in living alongside the Palestinian nation or other Muslim nations. The Zionist regime is a cancer and cancer must be uprooted,” he said.
Al-Qoddoumi said Hamas was more powerful than ever and has acquired a stronger faith in the path of resistance which guarantees the restoration of the rights of the Palestinian nation.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:25:43am |
re: #257 Gus 802
Easily. Have you ever watched what's on cable TV these days? This is America. The land of Lindsay Lohan, Donald Trump and Paris Hilton. He's just a part of the new American exceptionalism.
It took a while to realize why the film of him feeding the images to the NY radio crew was so disturbing. Someone has given a multi-million dollar bullhorn to Beavis and Butthead.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:26:08am |
re: #173 ggt
Once again, States are working to discount lives of women in in favor of the "pre-born".
doncha just love the jargon.twit, facebook, copy and paste --spread the word.
How is everyone this morning?
Those not busy being pre-born are busy being pre-dead...
-after Bob Dylan
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:26:52am |
re: #258 NJDhockeyfan
A peace-loving representative of Hamas discusses how Hamas views peace...
And yet, people continue to be fooled by the "land for peace" meme. It still boggles my mind how people can genuinely sympathize with the people commonly referred to as Palestinians. I mean, sure, I understand that they're in a pickle, but it's pretty much a pickle of their own making and I have a hard time feeling sorry for them for that.
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Gus Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:28:56am |
re: #259 Decatur Deb
It took a while to realize why the film of him feeding the images to the NY radio crew was so disturbing. Someone has given a multi-million dollar bullhorn to Beavis and Butthead.
On Opie and Anthony no less. Now there a couple of neo right-wing lowlifes. I'm kind of glad that the GOP has left the dirty tricks and work to such trashy worms. And the left wing response is to roll over and play dead. They'll send Michael Moore after them! That'll teach 'em. Ha!
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:36:39am |
re: #261 thedopefishlives
And yet, people continue to be fooled by the "land for peace" meme. It still boggles my mind how people can genuinely sympathize with the people commonly referred to as Palestinians. I mean, sure, I understand that they're in a pickle, but it's pretty much a pickle of their own making and I have a hard time feeling sorry for them for that.
I've been to the settlement north of Amman. It was stuffed with 4yr olds who didn't sign up for any of this shit. So, if you're human, you sympathise.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:38:08am |
re: #263 Decatur Deb
I've been to the settlement north of Amman. It was stuffed with 4yr olds who didn't sign up for any of this shit. So, if you're human, you sympathise.
Well, granted. I guess what I mean is, people who use that sort of emotional ploy to argue for their cause. In reality, the squalor of their living conditions is inflicted upon them by their leaders and by their Arab neighbors; Israel was perfectly willing to take them in, but they refused.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:38:18am |
re: #261 thedopefishlives
Well, no. The pickle is not solely of their own making. The situation there is not mainly the result of the actual Palestinians, but the entire Mid-Eastern Mulsim world, who all find having the Palestinians around useful as a political pawn. The anti-semitic propaganda is pumped out by nations like Yemen and Saudi Arabia, countries we're on perfectly friendly terms with.
I have sympathy for any child born among the Palestinians, growing up hearing the propaganda of hate, growing up fed lies and propaganda every day. It is hard to shake off the hate that's taught in ones youth-- it's even harder when there's an active, violent conflict.
That's one reason Hamas never really respects a ceasefire-- they need to keep the hatred alive, and they need to have Israel defend itself so that they can claim they're being attacked.
I get aggravated when people talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict. There isn't such a thing. It's Israel vs. Muslim Middle East conflict.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:38:50am |
re: #261 thedopefishlives
Not just of their own making. They've been repeatedly screwed by their so-called brothers and the regimes in power in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and the rest of the ME. Those regimes have kept the Palestinians in camps, radicalized them, exploited them (both political and as cheap labor), and otherwise treated them as non-citizens even though most in those camps have lived all their lives in those camps and never actually were born or lived in territories that now comprise Israel or the territories.
Israel is actually the least of the Palestinians' problems. Israelis would have no problem with a peace deal if there was a true peace with a 2-state solution. Problem is that the Palestinians themselves via Hamas and Fatah (now comprising the Palestinian Authority) reject a 2-state solution and seek the liberation of all Palestine (referring to Israel's creation as the naqba for example). Problem is that the foreign countries refuse to grant citizenship to those Palestinians in the camps even though they were born decades after Israel's creation. Israel's enemies in the region perpetuate the hatred and further radicalize the Palestinians and fund the terror campaigns (using Hizbullah, Hamas, and PIJ as proxies).
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:39:06am |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
What a bastard of a reject Brokebart is to make a back-handed swipe at Huma. That's how I read this.
Slimeball is being a Slimeball.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:39:35am |
From the sports page of Yahoo...
Ozzie Guillen takes issue with arch-enemy Sean Penn
Sean Penn probably isn't going to be a guest of Ozzie Guillen at a Chicago White Sox game anytime soon.
Well, maybe he will if the two agree to meet up in Guillen's native Venezuela.
What beef does Guillen have with Penn? The actor continues to defend Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez. Back in March, Penn appeared on "Real Time with Bill Maher" to criticize the media for going along with the U.S. government's labeling of Chavez as a dictator. Guillen fired off a response on Twitter, saying it was easy for a well-paid celebrity who doesn't live in Venezuela to stick up for Chavez.
If Penn got Guillen's message, it apparently didn't leave an impression. This week, he wrote an editorial for the Huffington Post calling for lifting economic sanctions on Venezuela. Penn also once again criticized the U.S. government for portraying Chavez as a dictator, rather than a democratically elected leader.
Upon learning of Penn's post, Guillen once again ripped his ideological nemesis on Twitter. "Sean penn," he posted, "if you love venezuela please move to venezuela for a year." Guillen put a vitriolic cherry on top by challenging Penn to rent property in one of the country's impoverished cities and see how long he'd last. Oh, and to emphasize the point, as only Ozzie can, he called Penn a clown.
Ha ha ha ha! Go Ozzie!
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:40:20am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:43:16am |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
Oh, that's just stupid.
From what I understand, she's about 3 months pregnant.
There are a lot of couples who don't make a pregnancy known until about 3 months, because the potential for miscarriage is highest during the first 3 months, and so they just wait 'til the 3 months have gone by before generally giving out the news. When I first saw the news, I assumed that's what they had done . . .
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:43:55am |
re: #270 reine.de.tout
Oh, that's just stupid.
From what I understand, she's about 3 months pregnant.
There are a lot of couples who don't make a pregnancy known until about 3 months, because the potential for miscarriage is highest during the first 3 months, and so they just wait 'til the 3 months have gone by before generally giving out the news. When I first saw the news, I assumed that's what they had done . . .
Yeah--good advance planning there.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:44:42am |
re: #257 Gus 802
Easily. Have you ever watched what's on cable TV these days? This is America. The land of Lindsay Lohan, Donald Trump and Paris Hilton. He's just a part of the new American exceptionalism.
You left out Charlie Sheen.
And that Jersey Shore chick.
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Gus Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:46:43am |
re: #272 reine.de.tout
You left out Charlie Sheen.
And that Jersey Shore chick.
Yeah. There's a bunch. I can't believe what's on TV. Haven't watched in ages until I hit the road. It's truly pathetic. Including all of the "talent" shows. There's so many of them. And a lot of stupid game shows.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:47:24am |
re: #273 Gus 802
Yeah. There's a bunch. I can't believe what's on TV. Haven't watched in ages until I hit the road. It's truly pathetic. Including all of the "talent" shows. There's so many of them. And a lot of stupid game shows.
This is why my wife and I watch Mythbusters and Disney Channel. There really isn't much else on that's worth watching. Oh, and baseball is still good entertainment.
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:50:44am |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
From the sports page of Yahoo...
Ozzie Guillen takes issue with arch-enemy Sean Penn
Ha ha ha ha! Go Ozzie!
Penn ceased being relevant over a decade ago.
Oh, if only he had actually left the U.S. and taken a PR spot for Hugo....
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:54:06am |
re: #273 Gus 802
Yeah. There's a bunch. I can't believe what's on TV. Haven't watched in ages until I hit the road. It's truly pathetic. Including all of the "talent" shows. There's so many of them. And a lot of stupid game shows.
Heh.
The guilty pleasure my wife and I share is watching TMZ's show - oh, the foibles of the famous!
"I'm a Lawyer!"
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:55:02am |
re: #276 Ericus58
Penn ceased being relevant over a decade ago.
Oh, if only he had actually left the U.S. and taken a PR spot for Hugo...
He has before and probably will again.
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:58:08am |
News report today that Trouble, the dog that Leona Helmsley Z"L, (who, IMHO, got a raw deal) left $12M to in her will, passed away:
[Link: www.tmz.com...]
There was a great Jeff Toobin article in the New Yorker a few years back about all the legal issues that were generated by leaving $12 Million to a dog. [Link: www.newyorker.com...] I'm glad she had a chance to thumb her nose at the system from beyond the grave.
זכרם של כלב לברכה May the memory of a righteous dog be for a blessing!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 7:58:19am |
re: #277 Ericus58
Heh.
The guilty pleasure my wife and I share is watching TMZ's show - oh, the foibles of the famous!"I'm a Lawyer!"
My guilty pleasure - Dog the Bounty Hunter.
LOL
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:06:10am |
Fox News: Human Rights group oppressing conservative chicks.....
Miss USA Contestants 'Scared to Death' About Evolution, Nudity Questions
“The pageant officials are intimidating contestants into answering questions a certain way that are deemed ‘politically correct’ while discriminating against their own belief and opinions,” says publicist Angie Meyer, who has worked with the Miss USA organization. “The Miss USA organization is choosing topics that are not only controversial, but intimidating.”
Another factor that could influence how contestants answer is the makeup of the crowd.
MUO has given away a significant amount of free tickets to the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) to attend the live telecast. HRC are prominent champions for the legalization of gay marriage, the very topic that sparked the Prejean pandemonium two years ago.
The organization happens to be holding its leadership summit in Las Vegas on the same weekend, a source told Pop Tarts.
According to Meyer, the presence of a large contingent of HRC members in the crowd alone could be intimidating for the more conservative contestants if a question similar Prejean's is raised.
Miss Maine USA’s Executive Director Mackenzie Davis disagrees, saying that the HRC's attendance is not in any way unfair as “Miss USA is a spokesperson for the nation, and should not be intimidated by any organization.”
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:07:06am |
Speaking of moonbat stooges...
George Galloway: When President Obama is talking about a smaller and smaller Palestine, we have to insist that Palestine is one, from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea.
[…]
Our next land convoy, which will arrive, God willing, in Gaza on the 27th of December this year, will be called "The Return Convoy," because we insist that Palestine is not only Gaza, the West Bank, and what they call "East Jerusalem." Palestine is the whole country and the whole people.
[…]
Interviewer: The largest insurance company in the world, Lloyd's, refused to insure the ships of the second Freedom Flotilla. How will you deal with this matter, which may hinder your progress?
George Galloway: Well, we will have no insurance, but God is great and we are doing God's work. We are not afraid of Israel. We are afraid only of God.
Interviewer: Yes, but many ports do not allow the passage of ships that are not insured.
George Galloway: Well, the harbor in Gaza is not going to prevent us. They are waiting for us. The people in Gaza are waiting for us with their open hearts. Neither will Turkey refuse to allow us through.
[…]
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:07:52am |
Gotta run. It's going to be another hot day. Grrrr...
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:08:09am |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
How weird is it that evolution is considered 'controversial'?
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prairiefire Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:09:18am |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
They are shaking in their 3 inch stilettos.
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iossarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:11:23am |
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iossarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:12:24am |
re: #285 Obdicut
How weird is it that evolution is considered 'controversial'?
God, the number of times we hear comments about students feeling "oppressed" because they're not "allowed" to express alternative viewpoints in their biology classes.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:13:18am |
re: #288 iossarian
Heh. I'd like to see a solipsistic student take that to it's natural conclusion:
Interrupt every class by demanding existence itself be proved.
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prairiefire Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:13:36am |
re: #272 reine.de.tout
Wow, It sounds like it is blowing up for Jindal:[Link: www.2theadvocate.com...]
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:16:09am |
re: #277 Ericus58
That show is hilarious, and one has to wonder what kind of locker room type antics go on behind the scenes there. Best thing about that show is that they don't take anyone too seriously, least of all those involved in the show itself (and Harvey Levin especially), but one thing that they do is source stuff out pretty well - Levin's a lawyer after all.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:17:12am |
re: #283 NJDhockeyfan
Speaking of moonbat stooges...
_____When President Obama is talking about a smaller and smaller Palestine, we have to insist that Palestine is one, from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea.
And yet, the same jackasses complain about "Eretz Israel". /eyeroll
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:21:16am |
re: #285 Obdicut
How weird is it that evolution is considered 'controversial'?
Not really weird. More like a par for the course for a society which values ancient tomes of mythology more than expert opinion and scientific knowledge.
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Jimmah Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:21:40am |
re: #172 Obdicut
[Link: richarddawkins.net...]
Dawkins said this in defense of Condell:
He's doing much of the same things those on the right do-- lumping all moderate Muslims into one pot, treating Islam as though it's monolithic, etc. I'm not going to less it pass just because he's an atheist like me.
Not to mention that Condell is in a political party that has Monkton as chief scientific adviser; that alone should be enough for Dawkins to distance himself from Condell.
It can be a fine line to tread, for an atheist, to avoid being called a bigot, and you have to choose your words very carefully. In the case of that particular quote of Dawkins, you are correct to say that he went too far. He should have said that
some 'moderate' Muslim leaders support the principle that apostasy deserves the death penalty
. I'm sure that Dawkins, if asked to clarify, would have accepted the fact that very many genuinely moderate muslims do exist, while there are some who have gotten a pass as 'moderate' while harbouring extreme views. As written though, his statement reads too much like the kind of "there is no such thing as a moderate muslim" tripe that wingnuts like to spout.
As for Condell, he seems more and more a champion of Daily Mail values than anything else these days.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:22:10am |
re: #242 Sergey Romanov
I always wonder - there is no rational way to distinguish between CTs, so how do people choose to believe the Illuminati but not the Elders of Zion, etc. Jones doesn't strike me as explicitly antisemitic - at least he tries - but if he believes all the stuff he does, on what grounds does he dismiss the explicit Jewish conspiracy theories? Or does he?
He does. And there is a rational ground: Being openly antisemitic puts you too far into the fringe to be a profitable enterprise without going full Aryan Nation, with your own compound and all. I also think his wife's family is partially jewish, so there might be some personal reasons for the rejection of outright antisemitism. It might also have to do with being raised by Conservatives (his father is a John-Birch-Society member, I believe) and their strange oscillation between Anti-Semitism, Philo-Semitism and Christian Zionism. Last but not least, I think he's just an equal-opportunity anti-elitist. That's pretty much his whole ideology: Any elite is evil.
However, just as with Ron Paul, you will find a lot of ugliness from the fans once you take the rock that's put out there and polished for the world to see, lift it up and see what crawls under it. Watch these videos, then go to to the original YouTube pages and check out the highest ranked comments:
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Political Atheist Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:22:25am |
re: #265 Obdicut
People so often ignore how obviously invested the ME regimes are in the conflict. I say the conflict, not the Palestinian cause. I just don't get how they miss it.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:23:47am |
re: #294 Jimmah
Agreed. But in his actual promulgation of atheism as a philosophy, Dawkins is quite mild, if firm.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:31:10am |
re: #295 000G
The days of open antisemitism are pretty much over but Glenn Beck fell into the same trap. Beck, Jones, Ron Paul, etc are all recycling old antisemitic conspiracy theories and it's almost impossible to reinvent these old stories and remove the original antisemitism.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:33:37am |
re: #270 reine.de.tout
Oh, that's just stupid.
From what I understand, she's about 3 months pregnant.
There are a lot of couples who don't make a pregnancy known until about 3 months, because the potential for miscarriage is highest during the first 3 months, and so they just wait 'til the 3 months have gone by before generally giving out the news. When I first saw the news, I assumed that's what they had done . . .
Either that or it was absolutely none of our business.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:33:41am |
re: #157 Obdicut
I've always been weirded out by people's harshness towards Dawkins. I think they confuse two things: his contempt for certain kinds of extremist religion, like when he argued with that imam (though most Westerners probably loved that), and his philosophical atheism.
I think a lot of the harshness is motivated not because of his atheism or his dislike of extremist religion or even his dislike of religion in general but because he seems to write about subjects of religion – especially sociology of religion and theology – a lot of people from the academic professions have charged him to be uneducated about while pretending otherwise. At least that's the charge I often read. I haven't bothered with Dawkins myself.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:34:55am |
Oh, and my husband thought that the Bilderbergers had to do with teddy bears.
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Jimmah Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:36:05am |
re: #297 Obdicut
Agreed. But in his actual promulgation of atheism as a philosophy, Dawkins is quite mild, if firm.
As I find to be the case with most of the 'top' atheist writers, he's just an extremely smart, highly qualified, articulate and witty proponent of the atheist case. For some reason, some people seem to be very annoyed with them:)
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:37:29am |
re: #300 000G
People objecting to Dawkin's lack of understanding of theology aren't really getting it; he's pointing out a fundamental problem with the philosophical basis of theology that has nothing to do with the existence of god.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:37:44am |
re: #298 Killgore Trout
The days of open antisemitism are pretty much over but Glenn Beck fell into the same trap. Beck, Jones, Ron Paul, etc are all recycling old antisemitic conspiracy theories and it's almost impossible to reinvent these old stories and remove the original antisemitism.
Especially when recycling those old dead bigots Ezra Taft Benson and Cleon Skousen. And Elizabeth Dilling, wtf. How obvious can you get. Yet, conservatives predictably fall for it, and eat it up.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:42:55am |
re: #301 EmmmieG
Oh, and my husband thought that the Bilderbergers had to do with teddy bears.
That one made me laugh. I should use that on some of my conspiracy-minded in-laws sometime and see what happens.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:45:38am |
re: #242 Sergey Romanov
He's a bullshitter. He couldn't care less who believes what. He just spews conspiracies for the sake of spouting his own nonsense and getting that crap out into the public sphere.
Those who associate with him and spread his nonsense - like Drudge - are part of the problem.
They can't see Jones for what he is - a bullshitter.
Liars and bullshitters are, Frankfurt says, both misrepresenting themselves. But while the liar is trying to lead us away from what s/he knows to be the truth, the bullshitter doesn't care about truth, because bullshitters don't believe in "truth." When we're bullshitting, we're trafficking in the world of "possibilities" not in the world of "realities."It's possible, for example, that "people are out most important asset," right? Who can disprove that, "we're committed to superior customer service?" These are, as Frankfurt puts it:
...assertions that purport to describe the way things are, but that cannot be anything but bullshit.I love Frankfurt's quote of Arthur Simpson's advise to his young son:
Never tell a lie when you can bullshit your way through.
What matters in bullshit is that it be "sincere," not that it be "correct"; the triumph of form over content.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:46:55am |
re: #298 Killgore Trout
Not so sure that the days of open anti Semitism are over. It's still out there in the open. Some of the more prominent people spreading it are doing it a more sophisticated manner, but it's anti Semitism nonetheless.
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:49:41am |
re: #304 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Especially when recycling those old dead bigots Ezra Taft Benson and Cleon Skousen. And Elizabeth Dilling, wtf. How obvious can you get. Yet, conservatives predictably fall for it, and eat it up.
Names I have to educate myself on...
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:50:53am |
re: #307 lawhawk
Not so sure that the days of open anti Semitism are over. It's still out there in the open. Some of the more prominent people spreading it are doing it a more sophisticated manner, but it's anti Semitism nonetheless.
Open antisemitism is business as usual in many parts of Europe today.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:51:16am |
re: #303 Obdicut
People objecting to Dawkin's lack of understanding of theology aren't really getting it; he's pointing out a fundamental problem with the philosophical basis of theology that has nothing to do with the existence of god.
As I said, I haven't really bothered with Dawkins. What I've glimpsed doesn't really look interesting, and I doubt his stuff will enter the canon of philosophy of religion.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:51:17am |
re: #290 prairiefire
Wow, It sounds like it is blowing up for Jindal:[Link: www.2theadvocate.com...]
oh, gawd, I hope so i hope I hope I hope I hope.
This would be SUCH a bad move. The money that OGB has managed to accrue is not state fund money, it's EMPLOYEE-PAID PREMIUMS. It's NOT THE STATE'S MONEY.
This agency is dedicated to providing the best possible choices and coverage for state employees, their dependents, teachers, retirees, a whole host of people are covered by this program. They've managed to accrue a surplus, which means our premiums won't be going up until they HAVE to. They just dropped the lifetime maximum on benefits. They have provided excellent service to employees.
The former director was fired a couple of months ago; his governor-chosen replacement resigned a couple of days ago. I'm guessing he thought it would be an easy job and he found out it wasn't? pfft.
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:51:54am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:52:59am |
re: #311 reine.de.tout
oh, gawd, I hope so i hope I hope I hope I hope.
This would be SUCH a bad move. The money that OGB has managed to accrue is not state fund money, it's EMPLOYEE-PAID PREMIUMS. It's NOT THE STATE'S MONEY.
This agency is dedicated to providing the best possible choices and coverage for state employees, their dependents, teachers, retirees, a whole host of people are covered by this program. They've managed to accrue a surplus, which means our premiums won't be going up until they HAVE to. They just dropped the lifetime maximum on benefits. They have provided excellent service to employees.
The former director was fired a couple of months ago; his governor-chosen replacement resigned a couple of days ago. I'm guessing he thought it would be an easy job and he found out it wasn't? pfft.
I mean, does anybody here think that a private company would do what this agency is doing, holding that surplus in reserve for future use for the benefit of covered employees? I have to laugh out loud at the thought -
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:53:14am |
I know it's dailymail and all that. Has anybody looked into this?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
The political activist and TV host even suggested that it would be a better life for women in warring countries as the might die of starvation.Mutairi claimed: 'There was no shame in it and it is not haram' (forbidden) under Islamic Sharia law.'
[...]
She suggested shopping for prisoners of war so as to protect Kuwaiti men from being tempted to commit adultery or being seduced by other women's beauty.
'For example, in the Chechnyan war, surely there are female Russian captives,' she said.
'So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait. Better than to have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations.'
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:53:50am |
Digging for clues to the past: studying climate change in the Meadowlands.
Meadowlands Commission researchers will study samples recently plucked from the reedy marshes along the Hackensack River for evidence of catastrophic events, such as a tsunami or severe drought, which could help planning officials.They also hope to learn how much carbon the marshes have been capturing out of the air and storing in vegetation, to better understand the role wetlands play in reducing the impact of carbon emissions.
"Scientists would like to determine which kinds of plants are best at sequestering carbon and how the amounts varied in the past," said paleoclimatologist Dorothy Peteet at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, who will help the Meadowlands team. "If the weather was hotter or drier, did plants sequester more or less carbon? The million-dollar question is how fast plants can sequester carbon."
Researchers will also measure the presence of man-made pesticide residue in the plant material.
"There's so much science here, you have to break it into projects," said Cyndi Steiner, a Rutgers University graduate student who will work with Peteet on the samples.
The Meadowlands is one of the great marshes in the US, and much of it was turned into dumps for much of the past 200 years. Only within the past few decades have people realized its true value and importance. Scientists have found all manner of bacteria growing there that could have significant commercial value - for environmental remediation for example, and now scientists are looking at the region for how marshes take up carbon, whether the region experienced tsunamis or significant storm surges in the past (that could pose a direct threat to the NYC metro region since the Meadowlands are largely sheltered from a direct hit by an Atlantic tsunami or significant storm surges). Lots of interesting science going on there... and it's also on the Atlantic flyway so its also great for birding.
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:55:00am |
re: #314 Sergey Romanov
I know it's dailymail and all that. Has anybody looked into this?
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
Her 15 minutes
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:58:33am |
re: #314 Sergey Romanov
There's a Kuwaiti Times article predating the Daily Mail that reports substantially the same thing.
This woman is a piece of work:
The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously in a video broadcast online that she had been informed by some clerics that affluent Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants 'casting spells' on them, would be better to purchase women from an 'enslaved maid' agency for sexual purposes.She suggested that special offices could be set up to provide concubines in the same way as domestic staff recruitment agencies currently provide housemaids.
We want our youth to be protected from adultery," said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:58:35am |
re: #316 researchok
Her 15 minutes
I'm not even commenting on the practical stupidity of the suggestion (apparently she thinks Chechnya is a separate state now that won the war). I just wonder if she's a mainstream figure or someone like Coulter. In any case her words are all over Runet.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:59:12am |
re: #299 EmmmieG
Looking back, my comment was a bit abrupt, and I apologize for the abruptness.
Huma Abedin seems like a good woman; she is quietly competent without being the attention hog that most of the people in DC are. She doesn't deserve this kind of crap at this stage of her life, especially from Breitbart.
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researchok Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:00:49am |
re: #318 Sergey Romanov
I'm not even commenting on the practical stupidity of the suggestion (apparently she thinks Chechnya is a separate state now that won the war). I just wonder if she's a mainstream figure or someone like Coulter. In any case her words are all over Runet.
She's pretty out there.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:03:35am |
re: #319 EmmmieG
Looking back, my comment was a bit abrupt, and I apologize for the abruptness.
Huma Abedin seems like a good woman; she is quietly competent without being the attention hog that most of the people in DC are. She doesn't deserve this kind of crap at this stage of her life, especially from Breitbart.
Your first comment, "It's none of our business", was true.
But the pregnancy of someone in the public eye is, well, hard to hide.
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iossarian Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:05:23am |
re: #321 reine.de.tout
Your first comment, "It's none of our business", was true.
But the pregnancy of someone in the public eye is, well, hard to hide.
In Hollywood, you can't eat a taco without being accused of pregnancy.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:06:25am |
I feel simply awful for Huma Abedin - talk about being in a bad spot. Possibly pregnant by a man who has disgraced himself in so weird and pointless a manner, and having to work with Hillary all these years.
(okay, I kid about the last part, but she seemed to have quite enough on her plate already without the whole photo thing.)
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:07:04am |
re: #322 iossarian
In Hollywood, you can't eat a taco without being accused of pregnancy.
Must resist...... not worth it.....
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:07:28am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:09:54am |
re: #322 iossarian
In Hollywood, you can't eat a taco without being accused of pregnancy.
BREAKING NEWS ,,, MEXICAN FOOD CAUSES PREGNANCYS ,,,
LATINA POPULATION EXPLOSION EXPLAINED
/
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:10:03am |
re: #310 000G
I doubt his stuff will enter the canon of philosophy of religion.
Well, he wouldn't really want it to. That's pretty much his point.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:10:07am |
Our old pal zombie (via Instapundit)
ZOMBIE: How A Teachers’ Rally Made Me Anti-Education.
I’ve always considered myself an ardent advocate for education. But a recent rally staged by teachers and students in favor of school funding forced me to reluctantly acknowledge an awful truth: We have to destroy education in order to save it. Let me explain how I came to this miserable conclusion.”
....
The content of the rally itself revealed that increasing school funding is just a component of a larger leftist agenda — school funding is being used as a lever to penalize the rich, increase power for unions, and so forth.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:11:17am |
re: #328 Killgore Trout
*eyeroll*
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:12:10am |
So, I'm thinking of switching up my booze for this evening. Gin had long been my fuel of choice, but, frankly, it makes me mean (well, meaner than I am without gin, anyway). I'd been downing bourbon with great regularity (and gusto, let me add), but I find it's making me maudlin, and leading to internal monologues that sound far too much like Quentin's father explaining to him about his grandfather's pocket watch and the whole Sutpen deal, so I'm thinking to phase it out.
I used to guzzle brandy with great frequency - hell, I used to carry a flask of it on me more or less constantly (well, that or B&B) when I lived up North. So, maybe brandy tonight.
I'm in Texas, so you might say "hey, why not tequila?" Well, I just can't seem to "get" that particular liquor - something about it just doesn't work for me.
Any other suggestions?
Remember, your fellow lizards will have to deal with the effects, so choose wisely.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:12:43am |
re: #329 Sergey Romanov
*eyeroll*
It's interesting to see how the conservative opposition to knowledge, science and education is taking shape.
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Flounder Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:13:04am |
re: #322 iossarian
I've eaten a lotta tacos in my life, some day I'll have this baby ;)
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:13:50am |
re: #330 Guanxi88
I'm a wine drinker. Maybe try that.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:14:23am |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
It's interesting to see how the conservative opposition to knowledge, science and education is taking shape.
"Ignorance is strength". It's almost explicit now.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:14:26am |
re: #325 sattv4u2
breath, queen ,,, slow, deep breaths!!!
:)
heh.
I'm having some difficulty right now; the Louisiana Group Benefits thing has me so damned steamed I can't see straight.
They have an agency that has managed to take care of its business so carefully and frugally that it accumulated a SURPLUS, and so what does Jindal do?
He fires the head of the agency, appoints his own guy who has now resigned because Jindal is not forthcoming with information EVEN TO HIS OWN APPOINTEE, and proposes selling the agency (and its surplus) to a private company that will pay the state the $500 million surplus plus another $1 billion (is the figure I saw) for the operations. The $500 million is not the state's money. It's the money of employees and retirees who are in the OGB program. So the state gets it back? It should stay right where it is, as a cushion for the future benefit of state employees who paid the premiums. Gah. Sorry I went on a rant there . . .
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:14:31am |
re: #332 Shropshire_Slasher
I've eaten a lotta tacos in my life, some day I'll have this baby ;)
If your gestation period lasts longer than 9 months, please consult a physician!
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Lidane Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:14:37am |
OK. HootSuite is awesome. I'm using it at work right now. Never used it before, but this is great.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:14:42am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
I'm a wine drinker. Maybe try that.
Eh, I'm lazy, and so are my kidneys. Wine's for food, not for boozing (says the guy who has sampled every variation of fortified wine caried by the local liquor stores and gas stations).
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:16:11am |
re: #339 Shropshire_Slasher
Peyote?!
No, no no! I don't need to see things that way; rather, I just sort of need something to take the edge of the neurotic mess that is my mind after yet another 80 hours in 5 days of work. takes a toll, you know.
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Lidane Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:16:38am |
re: #335 reine.de.tout
heh.
I'm having some difficulty right now; the Louisiana Group Benefits thing has me so damned steamed I can't see straight.They have an agency that has managed to take care of its business so carefully and frugally that it accumulated a SURPLUS, and so what does Jindal do?
He fires the head of the agency, appoints his own guy who has now resigned because Jindal is not forthcoming with information EVEN TO HIS OWN APPOINTEE, and proposes selling the agency (and its surplus) to a private company that will pay the state the $500 million surplus plus another $1 billion (is the figure I saw) for the operations. The $500 million is not the state's money. It's the money of employees and retirees who are in the OGB program. So the state gets it back? It should stay right where it is, as a cushion for the future benefit of state employees who paid the premiums. Gah. Sorry I went on a rant there . . .
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY! LIMITED GUBMINT!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:20:11am |
re: #341 Lidane
gah.
Seriously.
Here's the case of an agency working exactly like it's supposed to, and managing its operations well, and Jindal wants to get rid of it?
What he wants is he wants his hands on that $500 million. As far as I'm concerned, that's theft, because it wasn't the state's money to begin with.
Another rant, apologies.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:21:09am |
re: #342 reine.de.tout
gah.
Seriously.
Here's the case of an agency working exactly like it's supposed to, and managing its operations well, and Jindal wants to get rid of it?
What he wants is he wants his hands on that $500 million. As far as I'm concerned, that's theft, because it wasn't the state's money to begin with.
Another rant, apologies.
better you get it out of your system here, and with a keyboard, than there, with a ball bat.
just sayin'
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:22:24am |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:24:49am |
re: #344 sattv4u2
Vodka
very flexible
straight, mixed with soda(s), juices, fruits, etc
Vodka brings back certain....... associations...... involving.....certain... Slavic buddies.... who nearly left me to........ expire.... in a snowbank.
I dodge the stuff, unless it's mixed into sweet tea. Hmm.... maybe.
Hell, maybe slivo tonight, and just go full-on Balkan and be done with it. Start a fight with the neighbors and heave 'em outta their houses, and all the rest of it.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:33:47am |
Oh well, off to the liquor store! Hey, I wonder how far I'll have to drive to find slivovitz in Guadalupe County, anyway?
I'm guessing this'll turn into a "Quest for Fire" type of deal.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:45:44am |
re: #310 000G
As I said, I haven't really bothered with Dawkins. What I've glimpsed doesn't really look interesting, and I doubt his stuff will enter the canon of philosophy of religion.
Why do people get worked up about him either way? He's just another religious atheist, no different from Anne Gaylor here in Madison.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jun 9, 2011 9:47:46am |
re: #308 Ericus58
Names I have to educate myself on...
A lot of his rants against "social justice" and whatnot come from Ezra Taft Benson, famous for that old saw that the Civil Rights Movement was "communism".
Beck, peddling his wares:
Image: racemixing_communism.jpg
Charles posted on that shriveled up old white nationalist Cleon Skousen a couple years back [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Elizabeth Dilling was such an in-your-face antisemite, she actually got taken to court for sedition. Glenn Beck got caught trying to peddle HER wares to the dumb conservative bigots who listened to him then ran out to tea parties [Link: www.salon.com...]
Needless to say, his walkback attempt wasn't all that convincing, not that that matters to his followers.
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