Overnight Open Thread
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I’d rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance.
— E. E. Cummings
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Spocomptonite Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:37:02pm |
It's too late. The real overnight open thread is the previous post.
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Alexzander Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:37:08pm |
My uncanny ability to log on to LGF as a new thread is posted continues.
Actually, there is a huge confirmation bias at play but I'll ignore it to feel special.
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Alexzander Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:38:15pm |
re: #1 Spocomptonite
It's too late. The real overnight open thread is the previous post.
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At this point it will definitely be more of a morning thread, at least for us on the west coast. I'll wake up and it will be at 400 or so posts.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:39:37pm |
re: #2 Alexzander
My uncanny ability to log on to LGF as a new thread is posted continues.
Actually, there is a huge confirmation bias at play but I'll ignore it to feel special.
But you are special, just like everyone else.
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Alexzander Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:42:17pm |
re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth
But you are special, just like everyone else.
I am a beautiful and unique snowflake!
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Kragar Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:43:51pm |
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Spocomptonite Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:59:10pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jul 28, 2011 11:59:22pm |
re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
YOU SAID SPECIAL!
I clearly missed the birth of that meme. What gives?
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Kragar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:00:48am |
re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth
I clearly missed the birth of that meme. What gives?
Someone said special, and someone went way overboard explaining how we should feel ashamed for using a term like that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:03:41am |
re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
BONSAI!!!
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:10:05am |
re: #7 Spocomptonite
I have a signed copy of both the book and DVD.
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freetoken Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:25:50am |
I’d rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance.— E. E. Cummings
Speaking of which, it looks like DWTS is going to give ol' e.e. a test of his maxim - according to latest reports, in order to get some "A"-listers on the show the producers are, for the biggest name stars, dropping the minimum practice-hour requirements as well as letting the stars approve of their music selection before-hand and be in total control of their costumes.
This means, as far as the dropping the practice hours requirements, that they just won't be as good at dancing.
There is no way around it - one has to practice to become good.
But, the producers apparently would rather have big names than people who want to dance.
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Kragar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:27:28am |
re: #12 freetoken
Speaking of which, it looks like DWTS is going to give ol' e.e. a test of his maxim - according to latest reports, in order to get some "A"-listers on the show the producers are, for the biggest name stars, dropping the minimum practice-hour requirements as well as letting the stars approve of their music selection before-hand and be in total control of their costumes.
This means, as far as the dropping the practice hours requirements, that they just won't be as good at dancing.
There is no way around it - one has to practice to become good.
But, the producers apparently would rather have big names than people who want to dance.
I'll have to cut down on my viewing then...
How does one watch negative hours of a program anyways?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:41:17am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 12:55:41am |
re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'll have to cut down on my viewing then...
How does one watch negative hours of a program anyways?
By messing with the space-time continuum.
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boxhead Fri, Jul 29, 2011 1:18:26am |
morning lizards
— E. E. Cummings
and i am pretty sure e e cummings is not a fan of punctuation nor capitalization and i also would wager that dwts would not be in his dvr record list
just saying
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 1:37:54am |
Bill Nelson (Astronaut-FL) is gonna get hammered this election cycle because of this story. Perception is reality in 30 second TV and radio spots.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
Oh, I so look forward to all the political ads for the next 14 months!!!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 1:41:15am |
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simoom Fri, Jul 29, 2011 1:48:10am |
Mixed bag:
[Link: www.google.com...]
A US Treasury auction of $29 billion in new debt went off smoothly Thursday despite the deadlocked battle over raising the country's debt ceiling to avoid a potentially disastrous default.The sale of seven-year notes saw fairly strong demand and they sold carrying an interest rate of 2.250 percent, better for the government than previous seven-year bond auctions in June and May, which both carried rates of 2.375 percent.
The auction underscored the lack of any visible panic so far among buyers of US Treasuries as the August 2 deadline for raising the debt cap nears.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
Rising signs of strain emerged across financial markets on Thursday as investors pulled out billions of cash out of money-market funds, in turn driving the funds to rein in lending in short-term markets.Financial markets have become increasingly alarmed at the deepening divide in Washington and the potential that the U.S. could be downgraded by credit-rating agencies or, worse, default on its debt.
Banks, meanwhile, are scrambling to design emergency plans to avoid a trading logjam in the huge markets for Treasurys and short-term funding facilities if Congress fails to raise the U.S. borrowing limits by next Tuesday's deadline.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 1:49:57am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:12:36am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:17:33am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:19:03am |
re: #22 Varek Raith
Lunar Volcanoes!
*That still cracks me up*
"To find evidence of this unusual composition located where it is and appearing to be relatively recent ... is a fundamentally new result and will make us think again about the moon's volcanic and thermal evolution," says planetary scientist Bradley Jolliff of Washington University, who led the LRO research team.
Read more: [Link: www.time.com...]
Varek can see volcanoes from his house!!!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:19:57am |
It was kind of funny, yet also a bit depressing, to see Bill Nye's face when he realized "Oh, crap. I'm talking to a five year old that looks like a grown up".
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:20:25am |
re: #25 Cannadian Club Akbar
"To find evidence of this unusual composition located where it is and appearing to be relatively recent ... is a fundamentally new result and will make us think again about the moon's volcanic and thermal evolution," says planetary scientist Bradley Jolliff of Washington University, who led the LRO research team.
Read more: [Link: www.time.com...]
Varek can see volcanoes from his house!!!
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:P
I'm still amused that some anchor on Fox thinks that it may disprove AGW.
XD
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:21:13am |
re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth
It was kind of funny, yet also a bit depressing, to see Bill Nye's face when he realized "Oh, crap. I'm talking to a five year old that looks like a grown up".
His expression was priceless.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:21:28am |
re: #27 Varek Raith
:P
I'm still amused that some anchor on Fox thinks that it may disprove AGW.
XD
They did have cars on the moon a billion years ago. That fucked up their atmosphere. Now, all those cars are in Cuba.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:22:16am |
Breaking News: Stork Seen Delivering Babies, Is Science Just Godless?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:22:16am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:23:47am |
re: #30 Varek Raith
Breaking News: Stork Seen Delivering Babies, Is Science Just Godless?
Don't be silly. Babies come from Hospitals. (that's what I tell kids)
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:24:30am |
re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't be silly. Babies come from Hospitals. (that's what I tell kids)
And where do the hospitals get them???
EXACTLY!
The Moon!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:28:56am |
re: #33 Varek Raith
Love you mom for giving you this time on this planet, and take nothing for granite.
/damn, that video is a cavalcade of stupidity.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:30:46am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:31:36am |
"Magic everywhere in this bitch".
That's some damn solid theology.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:35:21am |
Ice particles revolving around Saturn disprove the secular Darwinist "theory" of evolution.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:36:13am |
re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth
Ice particles revolving around Saturn disprove the secular Darwinist "theory" of evolution.
Tell that to the Flux Capacitor.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:38:11am |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Nitrogen on Venus disproves the secular Darwinist "theory" of flux capacitors.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:41:02am |
In fact, now that Pluto is no longer a planet, all secular Darwinist "theories" are invalid.
This means that The All-Seeing Santa is real. So be good, for goodness sake.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:41:33am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:42:01am |
Hmm, my posts are are all getting gobbled up by the forum gods.
YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:42:29am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:42:45am |
re: #43 Varek Raith
Hmm, my posts are are all getting gobbled up by the forum gods.
YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT!
Uh, you're drunk?
/
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:43:16am |
re: #44 Sergey Romanov
No wonder Philosoraptors died out, they were so dumb.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:43:55am |
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:44:05am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:44:42am |
BTW, didn't know it was Friday today. It was a pleasant surprise.
/seriously
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:46:52am |
re: #41 Varek Raith
Atheism is just another religion.
Bald is just another hair color.
Not playing golf is just another sport.
Hetero, anal sex is just another kind of abstinence.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:48:05am |
re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth
Atheism is just another religion.
Bald is just another hair color.
Not playing golf is just another sport.
Hetero, anal sex is just another kind of abstinence.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:54:09am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:56:18am |
I'm not sure if these are true, but they are fuckin' funny!!!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 2:59:23am |
re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm not sure if these are true, but they are fuckin' funny!!!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
#8 and #9. Heh.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:00:23am |
Yes please, and as soon as possible.
And if you don't mind, could you please take the AFA types with you?
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:10:04am |
re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth
I saw a juggalo drunk in mid-town manhattan the other day, around noon, with his pants around his ankle. He had shitty clown makeup on and was screaming at pigeons.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:11:58am |
By the way, someone mentioned to me that if we do go into default, it's Obama who decides what gets funded.
Does the GOP realize that?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:16:59am |
re: #57 Obdicut
By the way, someone mentioned to me that if we do go into default, it's Obama who decides what gets funded.
Does the GOP realize that?
But he said SS checks won't go out.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:22:59am |
TS Don hitting to far south for some of our Texas Lizards.
[Link: www.stormpulse.com...]
(H/T on the web site: Lawhawk)
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:26:51am |
re: #58 Cannadian Club Akbar
But he said SS checks won't go out.
There'll be a ton of hard decisions. But this actually gives Obama a shitload of power.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:29:30am |
re: #60 Obdicut
There'll be a ton of hard decisions. But this actually gives Obama a shitload of power.
I've seen a list of stuff that is already covered. I''ll look for it in a minute. Some guy on my radio talking about Jihad Watch. brb.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:29:36am |
re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth
“To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.” - Jack Handy
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:31:23am |
re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth
Love you mom for giving you this time on this planet, and take nothing for granite.
Love on the rocks.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:51:21am |
re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fear mongering notwithstanding, there is actually enough money to pay the checks to those who depend on Social Security. On July 8, The Weekly Standard cited a study from the Bipartisan Study Center which "projects there will be $172 billion in federal revenues in August and $307 billion in authorized expenditures. That means there's enough money to pay for, say, interest on the debt ($29 billion), Social Security ($49.2 billion), Medicare and Medicaid ($50 billion), active duty troop pay ($2.9 billion), veterans affairs programs ($2.9 billion)."
Bipartisan Study Center Senior Fellows.
[Link: www.bipartisanpolicy.org...]
[Link: newsbusters.org...]
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:54:25am |
re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. That's my point-- there's enough money to do a lot of things. But Obama gets to decide where it goes.
I'm just pointing out that if we go into default, the GOP is handing enormous power to Obama, in the name of denying him power. It's weird.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:55:16am |
re: #65 Obdicut
...if we go into default, the GOP is handing enormous power to Obama, in the name of denying him power. It's weird.
they see it as handing him even more blame for everything that goes wrong.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:55:17am |
Welcome to Tampa. Don't mind those smoke detectors or motion detectors.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:56:56am |
re: #65 Obdicut
Yes. That's my point-- there's enough money to do a lot of things. But Obama gets to decide where it goes.
I'm just pointing out that if we go into default, the GOP is handing enormous power to Obama, in the name of denying him power. It's weird.
Half truths go a long way in 30 second political commercials. We live in a ADD world.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:59:04am |
re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wow, that's creepy.
It's also kind of stupid. Do the people running those cameras think that they're going to catch them playing indoor naked volleyball or something?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:00:01am |
re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar
Welcome to Tampa. Don't mind those smoke detectors or motion detectors.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
The article states that the girls eventually worked at "The Wing House". The Wing House's food sucks, but the chicks are hot.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:01:10am |
re: #69 Obdicut
Wow, that's creepy.
It's also kind of stupid. Do the people running those cameras think that they're going to catch them playing indoor naked volleyball or something?
Close!!!
"We wore superhero costumes and things like that," Dzhambazova said.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:02:07am |
re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar
While it is amazingly wrong. Immoral. Etc?
I can't imagine why someone would try to film those girls.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:03:23am |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
While it is amazingly wrong. Immoral. Etc?
I can't imagine why someone would try to film those girls.
I dated a girl that had a fucked up last name. I never learned to spell it. These girls fit that mold.:)
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:03:46am |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But you're going to be watching them picking their toes while they watch Avatar.
And talking endlessly in Bulgarian.
In this day and age, there is so much pornography available that attempting to get a look at unwilling women seems almost doubly perverse.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:07:08am |
re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar
I dated a girl with the last name of Chattanattadattarang. Actually easy to spell once you got the hang of it.
Ms. Miroshnichenkp, on the other hand, that was hard to remember.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:07:43am |
re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar
I dated a girl that had a fucked up last name. I never learned to spell it. These girls fit that mold.:)
Had a girlfriend in Moscow named Galina Gaidarovna Fetkhetdinovna, she told me her name means "The Triumph of Islam" in Tatar.
All I could say was "Jeee-had, baby!!!"
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:09:40am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:11:20am |
The comment from the story are killing me!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:11:45am |
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:13:28am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:13:36am |
re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar
The comment from the story are killing me!!
Whatever happened to good old days when Bulgarian women looked like diesel engines and won the hammer toss at the Olympics?
HAHAHAHA!!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:14:22am |
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:15:54am |
re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar
Whatever happened to good old days when Bulgarian women looked like diesel engines and won the hammer toss at the Olympics?
HAHAHAHA!!!
There was no developed fashion, film or entertainment industry in Eastern Bloc contries, they tended to keep their good-looking women under wraps, or used them to gather intelligence from foreigners at Intourist hotels.
Now they have all come outof the woodwork and are busy taking advantage of the capitalist maxim that T&A is worth its weight in gold...
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:33:37am |
Crashed my car, today. looking at this one [Link: sfbay.craigslist.org...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:36:12am |
re: #84 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Crashed my car, today. looking at this one [Link: sfbay.craigslist.org...]
Volvo's are nice cars. Expensive to have worked on though.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:36:38am |
re: #74 Obdicut
They did a great bit on SNL; Parody on the movie, "Ghost". The ghost is in the apartment with her finding how absolutely flipping disgusting she was when she was alone. Patrick Swayze running around behind (the woman dressed like Demi Moore) her in the apartment shouting, "Oh my god! That's disgusting!"
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:38:05am |
re: #84 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Crashed my car, today. looking at this one [Link: sfbay.craigslist.org...]
Find out what it's worth here...
[Link: www.kbb.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:38:30am |
re: #84 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Crashed my car, today. looking at this one [Link: sfbay.craigslist.org...]
"Volvo - They're boxy, but they're good."
-Crazy People
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:39:40am |
re: #85 Cannadian Club Akbar
Volvo's are nice cars. Expensive to have worked on though.
This one is almost identical to mine, mine's just not an R. Always wanted an R.
I find it's easy to keep them up in this city - ever 5th or something car is a Volvo. Been with my mechanic for years but there are a bunch of them.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:40:28am |
re: #84 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Put a "coexist" bumper sticker and drive it 10 miles under the speed limit.
ugh.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:41:38am |
re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Put a "coexist" bumper sticker and drive it 10 miles under the speed limit.
ugh.
Forrest Green?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:42:00am |
re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar
Find out what it's worth here...
[Link: www.kbb.com...]
Ty. I think the price is about right would be a bit more (kbb-range) at a dealer, I think.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:43:03am |
re: #92 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Ty. I think the price is about right would be a bit more (kbb-range) at a dealer, I think.
Take it to your mechanic. He'll let you know if it's a POS within minutes.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:43:15am |
re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Put a "coexist" bumper sticker and drive it 10 miles under the speed limit.
ugh.
Not an R series, baby. lol
Bumper stickers, feh. People can just guess at my politics, haha.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:44:05am |
re: #94 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Not an R series, baby. lol
Bumper stickers, feh. People can just guess at my politics, haha.
Well, it is an R series....
/
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:44:23am |
Who knows, I may just freak out and take public trans for a while. Had the post-accident TOTAL FREAK OUT a couple hours ago, which is why I'm still up (again.)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:48:42am |
re: #75 Obdicut
I dated a girl with the last name of Chattanattadattarang. Actually easy to spell once you got the hang of it.
Ms. Miroshnichenkp, on the other hand, that was hard to remember.
Heh. Then I guess you also have a problem with Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:51:59am |
re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar
No. My animus for Forest Green is reserved for Subaru Foresters.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:52:31am |
re: #96 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Oh, we were assuming you were okay. You okay?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:52:37am |
re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No. My animus for Forest Green is reserved for Subaru Foresters.
I knew there was a Forrest in there somewhere.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:53:28am |
The newest Volvo I'd own is a P1800. But even at ~40 years old they are just getting broken in.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:53:41am |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:53:59am |
re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, we were assuming you were okay. You okay?
Yeah, walked away, np. Thx 4 asking.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:54:58am |
re: #102 Sergey Romanov
Thanks Sergey.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 29, 2011 4:56:43am |
re: #101 prononymous
Somebody in the nbrhd has an 1800 with gold trim. It's been around here for as long as I have, around 15 yrs. Still chugging away.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:02:25am |
re: #75 Obdicut
I dated a girl with the last name of Chattanattadattarang. Actually easy to spell once you got the hang of it.
Ms. Miroshnichenkp, on the other hand, that was hard to remember.
Seeing how Russian щ is transcribed as shch and ч as ch, some unremarkable Russian surnames begin to look monstrously in English, e.g. Щ е к о ч и х и н becomes Shchekochikhin. But it gets much worse in German - Tschschekotschichin or Schstchekotschichin
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:03:16am |
re: #105 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
They are quite overbuilt with a 4 cylinder that is basically half of a truck v8 and a body built to withstand Swedish roads and winters. But I'd probably go and desecrate it with a turbo motor anyway.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:03:43am |
re: #106 Sergey Romanov
(On a second thought only the second is correct - Schtschekotschichin.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:05:12am |
My Toyota Highlander has 296,000 miles on it. Burns no oil. Runs like new.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:08:38am |
My 1969 Oldsmobile Delta 88 has an unknown number of miles on it. Spun a bearing. Doesn't run.
Team America, fuck yeah.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:08:40am |
re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My Toyota Highlander has 296,000 miles on it. Burns no oil. Runs like new.
Take the money you saved and buy this.
[Link: consumerist.com...]
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:13:01am |
re: #106 Sergey Romanov
Seeing how Russian щ is transcribed as shch and ч as ch, some unremarkable Russian surnames begin to look monstrously in English, e.g. Щ е к о ч и х и н becomes Shchekochikhin. But it gets much worse in German - Tschschekotschichin or Schstchekotschichin
I explain to folks that Russians don't even hear all those -ovsky, -evsky, -insky and -itsky endings - they just indicate adjectives or possesion: "Ivanovsky" just means "belonging to Ivan", or "Johnson/Jones" in English.
and a "Kuibishche" is a blacksmith shop, so "Kuibishchevsky" is basically just "Smith"...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:16:40am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
I explain to folks that Russians don't even hear all those -ovsky, -evsky, -insky and -itsky endings - they just indicate adjectives or possesion: "Ivanovsky" just means "belonging to Ivan", or "Johnson/Jones" in English.
and a "Kuibishche" is a blacksmith shop, so "Kuibishchevsky" is basically just "Smith"...
Isn't that why Nordic's have "Son" on the end? My old bosses name is Erickson and that's what he told me.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:18:38am |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
Isn't that why Nordic's have "Son" on the end? My old bosses name is Erickson and that's what he told me.
Of course, origin or association is the source of many surnames.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:20:43am |
re: #112 ralphieboy
Not really, we don't perceive them as having "meaning", i.e. we don't think of "-sky" names as indicating possession or origin, we think of them as separate, um, blocks. Of course, etymologically you're correct, but people don't think etymologically. Just as I suppose when you hear "Ericson" you don't automatically think "Eric's son", unless you want to make a joke or something.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:25:43am |
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(Though I consider all "y"-words as cheating; I don't care if anyone classifies this obvious vowel or semi-vowel as a consonant.)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:26:58am |
re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar
Isn't that why Nordic's have "Son" on the end? My old bosses name is Erickson and that's what he told me.
Pretty much. And why the Scots have Mac, or the Irish Mc.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:27:47am |
Oh, and happy Friday, Lizardim.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:28:35am |
re: #115 Sergey Romanov
My name, turned into a sentence,means "God will grow a shining twin from the house of the warrior", which is well cool.
Or "God will enlarge a shiny naif who's the son of the son of a bear"
which is less impressive.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:30:15am |
re: #120 Obdicut
My name, turned into a sentence,means "God will grow a shining twin from the house of the warrior", which is well cool.
Or "God will enlarge a shiny naif who's the son of the son of a bear"
which is less impressive.
Yea, but your Native American name is still "Two Dogs Fucking".
///it's funny if you know the joke.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:30:56am |
re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar
No, mine is "Woman pouring a bucket of water over two dogs".
You're thinking of my older brother, who was born minutes before me.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:31:11am |
re: #118 thedopefishlives
Pretty much. And why the Scots have Mac, or the Irish Mc.
All I see is Macncheese and McRib.
/
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:33:19am |
And the prefix Fitz- is also a sign of patrimony.
Like the two gay Irishmen, Gerald Fithpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerlad.
Or the two gay Scotmen, Ben Dover and Phillip McCavitty...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:34:00am |
re: #124 ralphieboy
And the prefix Fitz- is also a sign of patrimony.
Like the two gay Irishmen, Gerald Fithpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerlad.
Or the two gay Scotmen, Ben Dover and Phillip McCavitty...
Phil McCraken.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:37:17am |
Do any of you guys or anyone you know pronounce h in wh- words? Like "hwite", "hwat", "cool hwip"? It was a minor shock for me hwen I learned that it is supposed to be the proper pronunciation by some
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:39:46am |
re: #127 Sergey Romanov
Do any of you guys or anyone you know pronounce h in wh- words? Like "hwite", "hwat", "cool hwip"? It was a minor shock for me hwen I learned that it is supposed to be the proper pronunciation by some
I was taught the H was silent. Kinda like the P at the beginning of my first name which is Rick.
/
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:40:56am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:41:22am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:42:18am |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mike Krzyzewski.
Eh, Polish names are the best. This one would be properly pronounced as "Kzhizhevski", but I guess in the US and with all the diacritics lost it's "Krzizevski".
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:42:32am |
re: #127 Sergey Romanov
Do any of you guys or anyone you know pronounce h in wh- words? Like "hwite", "hwat", "cool hwip"? It was a minor shock for me hwen I learned that it is supposed to be the proper pronunciation by some
eh, I mostly experience a silent "h" in those words when I'm talking or listening to others.
But to return to another topic (names) - the odd names I was mostly ever familiar with were Asian Indian - one guy I worked with had the last name of Supatanasinkasem. I learned to say it AND SPELL IT. Of course, I only learned to say it once somebody pointed out the name was very much like "Super Tanker Sink or Swim".
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:42:36am |
re: #127 Sergey Romanov
Do any of you guys or anyone you know pronounce h in wh- words? Like "hwite", "hwat", "cool hwip"? It was a minor shock for me hwen I learned that it is supposed to be the proper pronunciation by some
It is an aspiratied consonant - like blowing out a candle.
Remember the scene from Alice in Wonderland with the caterpillar smooking a hookah and asking "Who are you?" while blowing smoke rings.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:43:12am |
re: #127 Sergey Romanov
Do any of you guys or anyone you know pronounce h in wh- words? Like "hwite", "hwat", "cool hwip"? It was a minor shock for me hwen I learned that it is supposed to be the proper pronunciation by some
I was told that the most difficult sound for non-English speakers is "th"
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:43:40am |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mike Krzyzewski.
Zbigniew.
Guy I know here is named Zbigniew.
He pronounces it "Beejack".
???
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:44:13am |
re: #133 reine.de.tout
For me it has two parts, Supatanasin - kasem. This way it's memorizable.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:44:50am |
re: #134 ralphieboy
It is an aspiratied consonant - like blowing out a candle.
Remember the scene from Alice in Wonderland with the caterpillar smooking a hookah and asking "Who are you?" while blowing smoke rings.
I would think it would be the "O" sound blowing out the candles not the "H", wouldn't it?
Shows how much I know.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:45:34am |
re: #136 reine.de.tout
Zbigniew.
Guy I know here is named Zbigniew.
He pronounces it "Beejack".
???
I used to live in a heavily Polish area of the country, southeast of Chicago. They would usually either abbreviate or otherwise alter their last names for the sake of convenience when talking with people of non-Polish descent.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:46:01am |
re: #136 reine.de.tout
Zbigniew.
Guy I know here is named Zbigniew.
He pronounces it "Beejack".
???
It's pronounced "Zbignev" with "soft" n ("Zbignyev"?). The diminutive is Zbyszek (Zbyshek).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:46:55am |
re: #134 ralphieboy
It is an aspiratied consonant - like blowing out a candle.
Remember the scene from Alice in Wonderland with the caterpillar smooking a hookah and asking "Who are you?" while blowing smoke rings.
Never seen the Disney's version.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:47:42am |
re: #135 Alouette
I've no problem with it, and I think Greeks have the same sound. What I can't pronounce is French r.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:47:59am |
re: #139 thedopefishlives
I used to live in a heavily Polish area of the country, southeast of Chicago. They would usually either abbreviate or otherwise alter their last names for the sake of convenience when talking with people of non-Polish descent.
re: #140 Sergey Romanov
It's pronounced "Zbignev" with "soft" n ("Zbignyev"?). The diminutive is Zbyszek (Zbyshek).
Interesting.
The guy I know has a Cajun last name. I seriously don't know how he and his family got "beejack" out of "Zbigniew". Probably for reasons explained by dopefish above.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:48:46am |
re: #142 Sergey Romanov
I've no problem with it, and I think Greeks have the same sound. What I can't pronounce is French r.
HA! That one I can do.
It comes from way back in the throat, not from the mouth.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:49:19am |
re: #143 reine.de.tout
Well, I think beejack is Zbyshek.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:50:16am |
re: #145 Sergey Romanov
Well, I think beejack is Zbyshek.
oh, I see now! Gotcha.
Very interesting, and it explains the mystery I've wondered about for, gee, 30 years!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:52:04am |
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]
The federal grand jury indicted esteemed Presidential historian Barry Landau and his assistant, Jason Savedoff, for stealing and selling historical documents which include documents signed by Abraham Lincoln, speeches by Franklin D. Roosevelt and a letter from Benjamin Franklin reports said.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:57:17am |
re: #147 Sergey Romanov
I meet a guy once who had memos signed by JFK. He was rich so I didn't doubt him. He was also really creepy.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:58:03am |
re: #147 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.ibtimes.com...]
The federal grand jury indicted esteemed Presidential historian Barry Landau and his assistant, Jason Savedoff, for stealing and selling historical documents which include documents signed by Abraham Lincoln, speeches by Franklin D. Roosevelt and a letter from Benjamin Franklin reports said.
Wow.
Those types of documents should all be scanned and the originals kept out of the hands of people. I find it incredible that anyone would be able to have access at a level that enables them to steal such artifacts.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:59:05am |
re: #147 Sergey Romanov
Seems more like a self-promoter to me. What kind of a historian has a site which prominently features of him and Catherine Zeta Jones, him and Martha Stewart, him and Al Pacino etc. etc. etc. instead of an impressive CV and a list of written articles and books?
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 5:59:52am |
re: #149 reine.de.tout
My dad, who's an academic, has accidentally walked out of a library in England with a 8th century illuminated book in his pocket.
However, scanning a lot of these is not an option, because the materials and ink are degraded by light.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:01:43am |
re: #149 reine.de.tout
Wow.
Those types of documents should all be scanned and the originals kept out of the hands of people. I find it incredible that anyone would be able to have access at a level that enables them to steal such artifacts.
Heh, well, maybe. But gee, how boring it would be ;) When I visited archives, it was an important experience to hold in my hands the real documents - documents signed by the likes of Stalin, Molotov, Beria, Himmler...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:01:50am |
re: #151 Obdicut
My dad, who's an academic, has accidentally walked out of a library in England with a 8th century illuminated book in his pocket.
However, scanning a lot of these is not an option, because the materials and ink are degraded by light.
I believe this is why you can't take pics of Anne Frank's diary. My friend went to the house and he said they had mirrors around it so people wouldn't take flash pics. This was also many years ago.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:03:44am |
Just got an email from my county. I applied for a job and the email said they were eliminating the position. Wow, how bad do I suck?
/
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:03:49am |
re: #152 Sergey Romanov
With gloves on, I hope, so the acids in your skin didn't get on the paper.
I've seen my dad examining books with special tweezers to turn the pages before, wearing a mask so he didn't breath any moisture on them. It's kind of cool. Academic CSI.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:04:44am |
re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar
Just got an email from my county. I applied for a job and the email said they were eliminating the position. Wow, how bad do I suck?
/
:-(
They shouldn't have recruited for the position if they were going to eliminate it! That's awful, CCA
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:05:42am |
re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar
I believe this is why you can't take pics of Anne Frank's diary. My friend went to the house and he said they had mirrors around it so people wouldn't take flash pics. This was also many years ago.
I know when I saw the Dead Sea Scrolls in Montreal, they had a system setup where they were illuminated for maybe 10 seconds out of every minute. I also discovered that the IDF supplied the guards for that exhibit when I accidentally leaned against one of the cases... Wouldn't call him mean but very... stern
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:06:42am |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
:-(
They shouldn't have recruited for the position if they were going to eliminate it! That's awful, CCA
Na, just one of many. My friend works for the county and he is taking hits on his pay, so I'm not surprised.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:07:00am |
Good morning. If anyone wants not to be cheered up, the news this morning is that revised economic growth figures the past two quarters are much worse than previously thought. Watch the stock market this morning.
Then I switched to Fox for a few minutes and was partly gratified to hear the talking heads really whining about being called the party of NO, but not so gratified to realize that they haven't a clue that they are a key part of the problem.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:07:15am |
re: #155 Obdicut
No, no gloves. They give you the folders, you sit down and read. Mostly those were the recently declassified files from f.17, op.166, because the older files were microfilmed.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:07:42am |
re: #157 McSpiff
I know when I saw the Dead Sea Scrolls in Montreal, they had a system setup where they were illuminated for maybe 10 seconds out of every minute. I also discovered that the IDF supplied the guards for that exhibit when I accidentally leaned against one of the cases... Wouldn't call him mean but very... stern
I would have clubbed you.
///
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:07:50am |
re: #155 Obdicut
I've seen my dad examining books with special tweezers to turn the pages before, wearing a mask so he didn't breath any moisture on them. It's kind of cool. Academic CSI.
I suppose those were ancient...
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:08:31am |
re: #155 Obdicut
With gloves on, I hope, so the acids in your skin didn't get on the paper.
I've seen my dad examining books with special tweezers to turn the pages before, wearing a mask so he didn't breath any moisture on them. It's kind of cool. Academic CSI.
With newer documents, you don't really have to treat them quite so carefully because the paper is more robust. As long as access is heavily restricted, they'll preserve well enough.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:08:38am |
re: #160 Sergey Romanov
I hope they know what they're doing. Maybe the rate of decay on the paper is great enough anyway they don't have any real hope of preserving them forever.
It sucks how much stuff has been lost through careless handling, though. Especially from the early days of printing.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:09:37am |
We had a place in Tampa called The White House Store. They had docs you could purchase. Very cool. I could have spent a ton of money there.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:09:58am |
re: #163 thedopefishlives
A lot of newer paper is actually much worse than older, and decays faster, because it's got a lot more acid resident in the paper.
There's special acid-free paper that's used for documents that are expecting to be preserved.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:10:57am |
re: #162 Sergey Romanov
I suppose those were ancient...
Just medieval, but with colored inks that are pretty reactive. So you have to use low-light, low-moisture, etc.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:11:04am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:12:35am |
re: #166 Obdicut
A lot of newer paper is actually much worse than older, and decays faster, because it's got a lot more acid resident in the paper.
There's special acid-free paper that's used for documents that are expecting to be preserved.
You know, you'd expect technology to improve over the thousands of years we've been putting things in writing.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:13:25am |
A case study in how to cherry-pick data, complete with alarmist headline.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:13:53am |
re: #169 thedopefishlives
You know, you'd expect technology to improve over the thousands of years we've been putting things in writing.
Why?
The writing hasn't improved!!
//(somewhat)
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:14:10am |
re: #169 thedopefishlives
You know, you'd expect technology to improve over the thousands of years we've been putting things in writing.
The technology of mass-producing paper improved; it had the side effect of making it decay faster. This wasn't something that was really known.
Check out the bit about Barrow, here;
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:14:50am |
re: #164 Obdicut
Nah, I think those document will be safe for a while. It's more Auschwitz Zentralbauleitung archive I worry about. When they gave me a folder, the sheets weren't even bound together.
BTW, here's one of the documents I examined and copied, with Stalin's sig:
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:15:24am |
This is cool.
[Link: www.americagallery.com...]
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:15:29am |
re: #173 Sergey Romanov
But wait, that doesn't say Stalin!
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:15:59am |
re: #175 Obdicut
It даz! ;)
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:16:13am |
re: #166 Obdicut
A lot of newer paper is actually much worse than older, and decays faster, because it's got a lot more acid resident in the paper.
There's special acid-free paper that's used for documents that are expecting to be preserved.
The switch from low-acid rag paper to high-acid wood pulp came after the Civil War, so books published in the 1850's and 1860's are in much better condition than books published later.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:16:38am |
re: #172 Obdicut
The technology of mass-producing paper improved; it had the side effect of making it decay faster. This wasn't something that was really known.
Check out the bit about Barrow, here;
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
We were talking about Tacitus' "Germania" - it was fortunate that his work made the "cut" and was deemed worthy of copying from the original papyrus onto parchment, which has a somewhat longer shelf-life.
The works that Tacitus used as references for his book were not copied and have been lost.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:16:54am |
re: #175 Obdicut
But wait, that doesn't say Stalin!
//
Dude, he signed it like 5 times. Drinking, perhaps? Wait, that would be Yelsin.
/
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:18:05am |
re: #177 Alouette
Yes, though it was actually more a change in the manufacturing process than the change in material, the use of sulfuric acid. This was more suited to the wood pulp, but if you treat a cotton rage paper with modern methods it'll decay just as fast. See the Barrow entry I linked for more info.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:18:34am |
re: #178 ralphieboy
So much has been lost. We have only one ancient Greek comedian. One.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:20:43am |
My favorite story about Stalin is probably total bullshit, but as I don't speak Russian I'll let Sergey tell me if this was possible.
Stalin supposedly means "man of steel" Allegedly, he had a newspaper reporter killed/sent to Siberia for misprinting "Salin" which I think meant "man of mayonnaise"...like I said, I have no idea if that's accurate, but I still like the story.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:20:47am |
"Eureka!"
"I can't take a bath if you're still in the tub, Archmiides!"
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:21:07am |
re: #180 Cannadian Club Akbar
LOL.
Actually it's Stalin, Molotov, Kaganovich, Mikoyan, ???, Voroshilov, Zhdanov.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:21:10am |
re: #182 Obdicut
So much has been lost. We have only one ancient Greek comedian. One.
The losses that stagger me the most are in the areas of classical mathematics. Early mathematicians and scientists were among the most brilliant men ever to live, and so many of their references have been lost. Alexandria was a disaster from which the world may never truly recover.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:21:29am |
re: #183 darthstar
My favorite story about Stalin is probably total bullshit, but as I don't speak Russian I'll let Sergey tell me if this was possible.
Stalin supposedly means "man of steel" Allegedly, he had a newspaper reporter killed/sent to Siberia for misprinting "Salin" which I think meant "man of mayonnaise"...like I said, I have no idea if that's accurate, but I still like the story.
"Salin" would mean "man of lard", which sounds like a great story even if it is not true...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:21:39am |
re: #179 darthstar
Scourge, sludge... stooge!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:21:57am |
re: #183 darthstar
My favorite story about Stalin is probably total bullshit, but as I don't speak Russian I'll let Sergey tell me if this was possible.
Stalin supposedly means "man of steel" Allegedly, he had a newspaper reporter killed/sent to Siberia for misprinting "Salin" which I think meant "man of mayonnaise"...like I said, I have no idea if that's accurate, but I still like the story.
Well, Stalin was a miracle whip guy....
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:22:09am |
re: #187 ralphieboy
"Salin" would mean "man of lard", which sounds like a great story even if it is not true...
man of lard...that's it...so maybe it is true.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:22:38am |
re: #183 darthstar
My favorite story about Stalin is probably total bullshit, but as I don't speak Russian I'll let Sergey tell me if this was possible.
Stalin supposedly means "man of steel" Allegedly, he had a newspaper reporter killed/sent to Siberia for misprinting "Salin" which I think meant "man of mayonnaise"...like I said, I have no idea if that's accurate, but I still like the story.
Stalin probably does come from "stal'", steel. Salin would probably come from "salo", the pork fat.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:22:40am |
re: #185 Sergey Romanov
The same Molotov who invented the cocktails?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:23:40am |
re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar
The same Molotov who invented the cocktails?
Actually, Molotov cocktails in their modern formulation were invented in Spain, and coined by the Finns.
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:24:26am |
re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar
The same Molotov who invented the cocktails?
Named after him, yes. During the Winter War with Finland, Molotov (the USSR's foreign minister) claimed the soviet bombers were dropping bread. The finnish decided if the Soviets were bringing the bread, they'd bring the drink.
Or that's the story I was told anyways.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:25:11am |
re: #193 thedopefishlives
Actually, Molotov cocktails in their modern formulation were invented in Spain, and coined by the Finns.
Good to know.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:26:05am |
re: #194 McSpiff
I literally just, two minutes ago, listened to the QI episode that has that information in it.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:27:42am |
re: #191 Sergey Romanov
Stalin probably does come from "stal'", steel. Salin would probably come from "salo", the pork fat.
Yep...that's the story...I think I heard it from Mr. Fetters - the funniest fucking history teacher I ever had. His lectures were more like one-man plays and he loved getting into the gory details. His telling of the murder of Rasputin was especially memorable.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:28:42am |
re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar
The same Molotov who invented the cocktails?
No, the guy of the Molotov-Ribbentrop fame.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:29:17am |
Just got the coolest email. My BIL is a pro golfer, endorses Ping.
I had no idea Ping had a program like this...
From the email at Snopes
think this is something that all golfers should be aware of. I think all Americans should be aware of this also.. Subject: Ping (Noiselessly)
Subject: THANK YOU, PING This isn't a joke or cartoon; just something interesting to know...you may want to forward this on to others. On Monday, I played the Disney, Lake Buena Vista course. As usual the starters matched me with three other players. After a few holes we began to get to know each other a bit. One fellow was rather young and had his wife riding along in the golf cart with him. I noticed that his golf bag had his name on it and after closer inspection, it also said "wounded war veterans". When I had my first chance to chat with him I asked him about the bag. His response was simply that it was a gift. I then asked if he was wounded and he said yes. When I asked more about his injury, his response was "I'd rather not talk about it, sir". Over a few holes I learned that he had spent the last 15 months in an army rehabilitation hospital in San Antonio Texas . His wife moved there to be with him and he was released from the hospital in September. He was a rather quiet fellow; however, he did say that he wanted to get good at golf. We had a nice round and as we became a bit more familiar I asked him about the a brand new set of Ping woods and irons he was playing. Some looked like they had never been hit. His response was simple. He said that this round was the first full round he had played with these clubs. Later in the round he told me the following. As part of the discharge process from the rehabilitation hospital, Ping comes in and provides three days of golf instruction, followed by club fitting. Upon discharge from the hospital, Ping gives each of the discharged veterans, generally about 40 soldiers, a brand new set of custom fitted clubs along with the impressive golf bags. The fellow I met was named Ben Woods and he looked me in the eye and said that being fitted for those clubs was one of the best things that ever happened to him and he was determined to learn to play golf well enough to deserve the gift Ping had given him. Ben is now out of the service, medically discharged just a month ago. He is as fine a young man as you would ever want to meet. Ping has the good judgment not to advertise this program. God Bless America and the game of golf.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:30:14am |
re: #198 Sergey Romanov
No, the guy of the Molotov-Ribbentrop fame.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Well, we know how that worked out.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:30:28am |
re: #199 Rightwingconspirator
That is remarkable.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:30:50am |
re: #186 thedopefishlives
The losses that stagger me the most are in the areas of classical mathematics. Early mathematicians and scientists were among the most brilliant men ever to live, and so many of their references have been lost. Alexandria was a disaster from which the world may never truly recover.
Indeed. Thankfully parchment was hard to come by and was often reused instead of simply discarded. I wonder how many other ancient works of genius and art are masquerading as mundane religious texts.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:33:45am |
Speaking of Molotov and the Finns, here's a catchy tune, Njet Molotoff:
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:35:08am |
Morning all!
racking up some major anxiety with this debt stuff and my Mom's bank account. Should I be afraid to look at her money-market statement this month?
How is everyone this am?
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:35:28am |
re: #199 Rightwingconspirator
Not surprised he was playing at disney either, the DOD owns a golf resort there, Shades of Green.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:35:28am |
re: #205 Sergey Romanov
Is Molotov considered the Neville Chamberlain of Russia?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:35:47am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:38:54am |
re: #206 ggt
I doubt that she was getting that great of an interest rate prior to all this deadlock (MM and CD rates have been very low for a couple of years now,, and traditional checking accounts at best gave had 0.1% for as long, if any interest at all over that time)
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:40:24am |
re: #210 Killgore Trout
Dow nose dives -114
It's just getting warmed up for Boehner's continued failure. The Republicans may hate her, but they might be better off putting Nancy Pelosi back as speaker...at least she got shit done.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:41:59am |
re: #210 Killgore Trout
Economy grows at a meager 1.3%, well below the consensus estimate of 1.8% (which itself is a pretty low figure). Add that the 1Q figures were sharply downgraded from 1.9% to .4% and I think that the 114 loss so far is the tip of the iceberg.
The debate, of course, is how much of that is due to the debt debate, and how much is due to the ongoing weakness in various sectors of the economy - primarily jobs and real estate.
And yet, there are some companies that had blowout earnings during this period and the small 3 automakers are showing some signs of life in the new economic conditions, but that is also a sign of cannibalization of lost sales by the Japanese carmakers following the Sendai quake.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:42:24am |
re: #212 darthstar
It's just getting warmed up for Boehner's continued failure. The Republicans may hate her, but they might be better off putting Nancy Pelosi back as speaker...at least she got shit done.
Of course she "got shit done"
She had the backing of both the president as well as the majority in the senate
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:42:30am |
re: #210 Killgore Trout
Dow nose dives -114
I recently closed and cashed out 3 mutual funds I have. I anticipated trouble but I need them for my business anyway so it was time. I got 2 of the checks but not the 3rd. I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. THANKS GOP, you are really supporting small business here.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:43:07am |
re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar
Is Molotov considered the Neville Chamberlain of Russia?
I believe he even ran the country briefly after Stalin's death
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:43:26am |
re: #213 lawhawk
Double dip by any measure except GDP, and we may get that the next quarter.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:43:40am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
Of course she "got shit done"
She had the backing of both the president as well as the majority in the senate
dude, she "saving the planet". So shut up!!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:43:43am |
re: #216 ralphieboy
I believe he even ran the country briefly after Stalin's death
That was Malenkov, who ran it together with Khrushchev in 1953-1955.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:44:14am |
re: #215 prononymous
I recently closed and cashed out 3 mutual funds I have. I anticipated trouble but I need them for my business anyway so it was time. I got 2 of the checks but not the 3rd. I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. THANKS GOP, you are really supporting small business here.
I'm staying in the market for the long run. I was hoping to free up some cash here in the next few weeks but I'm not sure this is a good time to do that.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:44:24am |
re: #215 prononymous
ummm,, the "debit limit bs" has nothing to do with your already cashed out funds
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:44:35am |
re: #216 ralphieboy
I believe he even ran the country briefly after Stalin's death
Not thinking of Malenkov by any chance?
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:44:55am |
Egypt uprising: Islamists lead Tahrir Square rally
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
"Tens of thousands of people have packed Cairo's Tahrir Square, after the first call by Islamist leaders for nationwide demonstrations since President Hosni Mubarak was overthrown in February.
The demonstrators - dominated by Muslim Brotherhood supporters - are calling for an Islamic state and Sharia law.
Correspondents say the rallies will be a worrying development for secularists."
(cont.)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:45:05am |
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:45:18am |
re: #206 ggt
Morning all!
racking up some major anxiety with this debt stuff and my Mom's bank account. Should I be afraid to look at her money-market statement this month?
How is everyone this am?
Crappy. Down 128 first 15 minutes.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:45:46am |
I hear the kestrel is out this morning.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:45:54am |
re: #221 sattv4u2
ummm,, the "debit limit bs" has nothing to do with your already cashed out funds
So you don't think this dive has anything to do with failure to negotiate raising the debit limit?
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:46:06am |
re: #225 Naso Tang
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:46:33am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
Of course she "got shit done"
She had the backing of both the president as well as the majority in the senate
No. She got shit done in the house. She did not get things past the Senate. But if she said the house would, the house did.
Oh, and by the way? She did that even when the president was a Republican.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:46:49am |
re: #227 prononymous
So you don't think this dive has anything to do with failure to negotiate raising the debit limit?
Thats not what you asked
You asked if your not getting the funds from one of your "cashed out" accounts was stalled because of it
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:47:24am |
re: #228 Rightwingconspirator
As I said last night, gold is a bubble. It'll pop, probably between 2200 and 2300.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:48:03am |
re: #231 kirkspencer
As I said last night, gold is a bubble. It'll pop, probably between 2200 and 2300.
So, we should buy gold?
I have my eye on an 18 Carat necklace . . . .
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:48:14am |
re: #229 kirkspencer
No. She got shit done in the house. She did not get things past the Senate. But if she said the house would, the house did.
Oh, and by the way? She did that even when the president was a Republican.
See how good it was to have a President that would make compromises on things!
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:48:28am |
re: #226 Killgore Trout
I hear the kestrel is out this morning.
Wonderful bird - any chance to get a photo?
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:10am |
re: #227 prononymous
So you don't think this dive has anything to do with failure to negotiate raising the debit limit?
Partly, plus the shitty GDP numbers this morning.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:16am |
re: #231 kirkspencer
That would be at about the peak we saw in the Carter days. Inflation adjusted of course.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:21am |
re: #230 sattv4u2
Thats not what you asked
You asked if your not getting the funds from one of your "cashed out" accounts was stalled because of it
I didn't ask anything. If they failed to cash out one of my accounts it would probably be because of an error in my paperwork or the like. But even if I correct it and send them a new copy it will be too late to avoid any damage in value to my account that has occurred.
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:44am |
re: #230 sattv4u2
Thats not what you asked
You asked if your not getting the funds from one of your "cashed out" accounts was stalled because of it
You might want to reread the original post satt...
re: #215 prononymous
I recently closed and cashed out 3 mutual funds I have. I anticipated trouble but I need them for my business anyway so it was time. I got 2 of the checks but not the 3rd. I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. THANKS GOP, you are really supporting small business here.
He's saying he hopes its not stalled in processing because the debt limit BS will cost him money the longer the money sits in the funds
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:45am |
re: #227 prononymous
So you don't think this dive has anything to do with failure to negotiate raising the debit limit?
I think it adds to the mix, but the revision of the past two quarters GDP is much bigger - imho.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:48am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
Of course she "got shit done"
She had the backing of both the president as well as the majority in the senate
She also didn't throw together crappy bills that couldn't get her own party, let alone Republicans, to support them.
It has to hurt for you, I know, but she was at least competent at the job. Boehner isn't. Once he realized (if he has realized it by now) that the Tea Party was going to lay his speakership to waste, he should have started working on more moderate legislation...instead, he sucks up to the people who will destroy him. Good riddance to the fool.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:49:59am |
re: #215 prononymous
Depending on your investment size and whether it was in a brokerage account, it would be protected under the SIPC.
I'm with Killgore on staying invested in the markets - a downturn is still an investment opportunity. You can dollar cost average to benefit from picking up stocks that get undervalued relative to their actual performance. It's not for the faint of heart, but the pros use the same kinds of strategies. If you're worried about downside risk, consider diversifying to include a bond fund or other investments to spread risk. (Not a professional investor, but just saying what I've been doing when I've got available funds).
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:50:53am |
re: #237 prononymous
I didn't ask anything. If they failed to cash out one of my accounts it would probably be because of an error in my paperwork or the like. But even if I correct it and send them a new copy it will be too late to avoid any damage in value to my account that has occurred.
Ya kinda did!!
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value.
Speculative nature of the sentence
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:51:25am |
re: #229 kirkspencer
Oh, and by the way? She did that even when the president was a Republican.
President Bush never existed - he's like Reagan...a dream still being invented. It was all Clinton's fault until it became Obama's fault.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:52:00am |
re: #241 lawhawk
Depending on your investment size and whether it was in a brokerage account, it would be protected under the SIPC.
I'm with Killgore on staying invested in the markets - a downturn is still an investment opportunity. You can dollar cost average to benefit from picking up stocks that get undervalued relative to their actual performance. It's not for the faint of heart, but the pros use the same kinds of strategies. If you're worried about downside risk, consider diversifying to include a bond fund or other investments to spread risk. (Not a professional investor, but just saying what I've been doing when I've got available funds).
I put all my available resources into oil--got 3 five-liter jugs of Mobil 1 in the garage.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:52:08am |
I"m not a numbers person, I really don't want to have to pay attention to market trends. I did it for a while in the early 90's and it nearly fried my brains. My Mom, OTOH passed the Series-7 at aged 58. Sadly, her mind isn't what is was then.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:52:23am |
re: #240 darthstar
It has to hurt for you, I know, but she was at least competent at the job. Boehner isn't
Not in the slightest
I could give a rats ass less about Boehner
What I do want is a bill that will actually, you know,, FIX some shit
So far, even though it was way too late to the table, Reids is the best
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:52:57am |
re: #242 sattv4u2
Ya kinda did!!
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value.Speculative nature of the sentence
That's a statement, not a question. Don't be trollin.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:53:25am |
re: #244 Decatur Deb
I put all my available resources into oil--got 3 five-liter jugs of Mobil 1 in the garage.
so... you and Wrenchwench are cornering the market, eh?!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:53:35am |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:54:24am |
re: #248 Ericus58
so... you and Wrenchwench are cornering the market, eh?!
Yeah, it's a slick investment.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:54:35am |
re: #247 McSpiff
That's a statement, not a question. Don't be trollin.
How is that "trollin"
He made a statement specutating IF the debt cieling "bs" had anything to do with the delay of his getting "already cashed out funds"
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:54:38am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:55:13am |
re: #246 sattv4u2
What I do want is a bill that will actually, you know,, FIX some shitSo far, even though it was way too late to the table, Reids is the best
That should be separate from raising the debt ceiling. All the shit that's being proposed is being done for political gain. And it will hurt a lot of Americans.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:55:14am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:55:36am |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:55:38am |
re: #232 ggt
So, we should buy gold?
I have my eye on an 18 Carat necklace . . .
I wish the lowest US standard for gold was 18 karat like some other nations. But I would have sold a lot less master alloy over the years.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:55:40am |
re: #241 lawhawk
Reread your comment and would add that if the brokerage failed to process, then the problem is on them - and you might have recourse for any losses resulting from them not processing the fund transaction. You'd have to check your confirmation information.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:56:16am |
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:56:27am |
re: #251 sattv4u2
How is that "trollin"
He made a statement specutating IF the debt cieling "bs" had anything to do with the delay of his getting "already cashed out funds"
He really didn't. He's saying if there's a delay in processing, the debt ceiling stuff will cost him money. That's not a question or speculation, beyond wondering if the cheque is in the mail or not.
If its not trollin, its incredibly poor reading comprehension.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:56:44am |
re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar
Buy coins.
I have a lovely one that was my grandfather's "watch fob". Indian Head. I wear it as a pendant.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:56:49am |
re: #241 lawhawk
staying invested in the markets - a downturn is still an investment opportunity.
I'm buying like crazy!
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McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:57:20am |
re: #259 McSpiff
Anyways, I don't really care, just wanted to explain my downding as is custom.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:58:03am |
re: #234 Ericus58
Wonderful bird - any chance to get a photo?
Probably not. I've tried but my camera doesn't zoom enough. He usually shows up as a small blurry blob hidden in a tree. He shows up a couple times a day and sometimes brings along a friend.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:58:20am |
But will her SSI benefits be deposited on the 1st or 2nd or whenever it usually is? That money is only part of her rent.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:58:55am |
re: #265 ggt
But will her SSI benefits be deposited on the 1st or 2nd or whenever it usually is? That money is only part of her rent.
SS checks will go out.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:59:20am |
re: #212 darthstar
It's just getting warmed up for Boehner's continued failure. The Republicans may hate her, but they might be better off putting Nancy Pelosi back as speaker...at least she got shit done.
A Democrat as speaker of a Republican house? Am I missing something?
The very big mistake the Democrats did was to not do more when they had control. They were idiots to think they could negotiate with Tea Partiers, even though the latter hadn't been elected yet, but the writing was on the wall.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:59:26am |
re: #259 McSpiff
its incredibly poor reading comprehension.
How so?
He's speculating that one had to do with another
I simply told him that it didn't,, ESPECAILLY in light that he has the funds in hand from the other 2 accounts!
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 6:59:38am |
re: #266 Cannadian Club Akbar
SS checks will go out.
Checks go out, debt comes in - you can't explain it!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:00:02am |
I"m pissed as hell at the investment firm she retired from. It's been since November and they still havent' removed my my Dad's name from the accounts. Now they want a copy of the entire trust document. The bank only wanted the pertinent articles.
Think I'm going to have her move the money and f-ck them.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:00:20am |
Insiders selling at unusually fast pace
[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]
"CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (MarketWatch) — Bad news, stock-market bulls: Corporate insiders are selling their companies’ shares at an abnormally fast pace.
In fact, one measure of that selling activity shows insiders of NYSE- and AMEX-listed companies recently were selling at the fastest rate since data began being collected in the early 1970s, four decades ago.
On the theory that insiders know more about their companies’ prospects than do the rest of us, this is an ominous sign."
...................
"One firm that gathers and analyzes the data is Argus Research, which publishes its findings in the Vickers Weekly Insider Report. One indicator that the firm calculates is a ratio of the number of shares that insiders have sold in the open market to the number that they have purchased.
In the week ending last Friday, according to the latest issue of the Vickers report, this sell-to-buy ratio stood at 6.43 to 1. This is higher than 95% of other weeks’ readings over the last decade.
That’s ominous enough, but consider last week’s sell-to-buy ratio for just those issues listed on the NYSE or AMEX. That came in at 13.10 to 1, which is the highest reading for this ratio since when Vickers began collecting the data, which was October 1974."
(cont.)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:00:24am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:00:40am |
re: #264 Killgore Trout
Probably not. I've tried but my camera doesn't zoom enough. He usually shows up as a small blurry blob hidden in a tree. He shows up a couple times a day and sometimes brings along a friend.
That's always nice.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:00:56am |
re: #269 ralphieboy
Checks go out, debt comes in - you can't explain it!
It's the moon's gravitational pull on the tides.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:01:04am |
CNN front page looks bad.....
Vote stalls on GOP debt plan
DEBT CRISIS: WHAT WILL HAPPEN
LIVE: Senators debate debtVideo
What are Obama's options?Video
Will I get my Social Security check?
Who would get paid? CNNMoney
U.S. may get booted from AAA debt club
Zakaria: The damage is already done
The United States faces debt downgrades and investor panic, Fareed Zakaria says, not because of deficits but because it is behaving like a deadbeat -- refusing to pay up while the bill collector waits at the door.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:01:28am |
re: #273 darthstar
That's always nice.
I knew there was a joke in that. Too early for me to find it tho.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:02:11am |
re: #276 ggt
I knew there was a joke in that. Too early for me to find it tho.
Click on the blue linky. Wait, you might not appreciate it as much as I did.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:02:36am |
re: #277 Cannadian Club Akbar
Click on the blue linky. Wait, you might not appreciate it as much as I did.
I did.
I knew it was an sexual reference before I opened it.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:04:23am |
re: #267 Naso Tang
A Democrat as speaker of a Republican house? Am I missing something?
The very big mistake the Democrats did was to not do more when they had control. They were idiots to think they could negotiate with Tea Partiers, even though the latter hadn't been elected yet, but the writing was on the wall.
I'm proposing a moderate house for the remainder of the term. Mainstream (if there are more than a few dozen) Republicans should caucus with the Democrats (for the good of the country) and reject the Tea Party and its religious right extremist and isolationist platform. If they were to do that, the Tea Party would be flushed out in the next election, and yes, they'd have to wait another cycle or two to regain a majority - but four to six years of economic prosperity while the Republicans work their way back to a sizeable portion of the House wouldn't be the worst thing for us.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:04:46am |
So, since I have to start paying attention to money matters again. Got any good ideas on "dummies" websites about such things I with which I could start?
Any support is much appreciated.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:05:24am |
re: #275 Killgore Trout
CNN front page looks bad...
Vote stalls on GOP debt plan
DEBT CRISIS: WHAT WILL HAPPENLIVE: Senators debate debtVideo
What are Obama's options?Video
Will I get my Social Security check?
Who would get paid? CNNMoney
U.S. may get booted from AAA debt clubZakaria: The damage is already done
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:05:55am |
re: #278 ggt
I did.
I knew it was an sexual reference before I opened it.
I can find a sexual reference in a stick of butter.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:06:19am |
re: #241 lawhawk
Depending on your investment size and whether it was in a brokerage account, it would be protected under the SIPC.
I'm with Killgore on staying invested in the markets - a downturn is still an investment opportunity. You can dollar cost average to benefit from picking up stocks that get undervalued relative to their actual performance. It's not for the faint of heart, but the pros use the same kinds of strategies. If you're worried about downside risk, consider diversifying to include a bond fund or other investments to spread risk. (Not a professional investor, but just saying what I've been doing when I've got available funds).
This is roughly the strategy I will follow if I have enough profit to reinvest. I normally invest for the long term with a diverse portfolio, but am not adverse to taking risk with things I feel are undervalued. It's just that my business takes priority for the moment, so I'm out of the markets altogether for now. Hopefully enough people want some nice aquacultured ornamental marine fishes.
re: #242 sattv4u2
Ya kinda did!!
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value.Speculative nature of the sentence
Oh please oracle, tell me if my account was processed correctly. It would save me a phone call.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:06:22am |
The only thing I remember about the markets is that it is all based on emotion. As much as people want to look at charts and figures --confidence and fear seem to be the motivating factors behind the Bull and the Bear.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:06:32am |
re: #282 darthstar
I can find a sexual reference in a stick of butter.
You stick your stick in butter?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:06:51am |
re: #280 ggt
So, since I have to start paying attention to money matters again. Got any good ideas on "dummies" websites about such things I with which I could start?
Any support is much appreciated.
No help here--everyone who taught me about money had taken a vow of poverty.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:07:00am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:07:06am |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:07:19am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:07:36am |
re: #283 prononymous
Oh please oracle, tell me if my account was processed correctly. It would save me a phone call.
I would have no idea
But I do know the delay has nothing to do with no debt ceiling increase bill!!
:)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:08:11am |
re: #285 sattv4u2
You stick your stick in butter?
But don't you think a tub of margarine would be less fat and more satisfying?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:08:18am |
re: #290 sattv4u2
Oh please oracle, tell me if my account was processed correctly. It would save me a phone call.
I would have no idea
But I do know the delay has nothing to do with no debt ceiling increase bill!!
:)
Well no shit. Thankfully I was never confused about that fact.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:08:41am |
re: #288 darthstar
And, apparently, so can you.
:)
Next meeting of the minds tomorrow morning
Same Time
Same Gutter!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:09:23am |
re: #293 sattv4u2
"Hey you two! Get a gutter!"/
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:09:55am |
re: #292 prononymous
Well no shit. Thankfully I was never confused about that fact.
Seems as if you were, hence the reply to your
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. which triggered it all!!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:10:56am |
Instead of Gold, should we be buying debt?
Only 18K gold-plated debt, of course.
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Targetpractice Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:11:37am |
re: #296 ggt
Instead of Gold, should we be buying debt?
Only 18K gold-plated debt, of course.
No, only gold. And seeds. And iodide pills.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:11:41am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:05am |
re: #280 ggt
So, since I have to start paying attention to money matters again. Got any good ideas on "dummies" websites about such things I with which I could start?
Any support is much appreciated.
I highly recommend The Little Book of Common Sense Investing:
Small book, easy to read and understand. Very simple strategy, not a get quick rich scheme, safe, conservative strategy.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:07am |
re: #296 ggt
Instead of Gold, should we be buying debt?
Only 18K gold-plated debt, of course.
It seems non-hybrid seeds have run their course, so, no.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:13am |
re: #297 darthstar
Let it go, already.
Hard to hold on to it when it's covered in butter.
ewwwwwwww :0
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:21am |
Going to look for online instruction in "gleaning". BBL.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:32am |
re: #296 ggt
Instead of Gold, should we be buying debt?
Only 18K gold-plated debt, of course.
Don't laugh
Gold I bought back in 2005-2006 paid for some home improvements with the profit
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:12:48am |
re: #232 ggt
So, we should buy gold?
I have my eye on an 18 Carat necklace . . .
Depends.
If you're purchasing it as a long-term fiscal investment, no.
If you're purchasing it as a pretty, maybe.
If you're purchasing it with the intent of selling for a profit, maybe.
As rightwingconspirator notes, I'm basing my peak on the inflation adjusted Carter peak. I expect it's a bubble just as it was during Carter's tenure and just as it was for Russia and Venezuela and a few other places where economic unrest encouraged over-purchase.
The production price of gold (per Troy ounce) is $200 to $300, with some sources claiming as high as $500. Add markup and desire and the most you should see without market manipulation or persuasion is about double for just the metal, giving us $400 to $600 ($1,000).
As jewelry, you're paying for the work as well as the material. The worth of work from the artist is a significant variable. If you're purchasing a 14K necklace from a chain store it /should/ be a lot less than a 14K necklace from, say, Mary Lu Hu. Bottom line, if you're buying it for the metal, don't.
As short term, it depends on how well you watch the market. It will burst, but as with all bubbles the question is when. Sell near the peak and you're doing great. Sell early and you do well but kick yourself for the lost opportunity of closer to the peak. Sell late and kick yourself for losing money (bubbles collapse FAST).
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:13:15am |
re: #295 sattv4u2
Seems as if you were, hence the reply to your
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. which triggered it all!!
If the account hasn't been closed already, for whatever reason, it is currently falling in value because of the failure to raise the debit limit.
Clear enough?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:13:44am |
[Link: www.greenwichtime.com...]
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland's defense minister has stepped down in light of a new report that put most of the blame for last year's presidential plane crash on Polish officials and procedures.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:14:21am |
re: #300 Killgore Trout
I highly recommend The Little Book of Common Sense Investing:
Small book, easy to read and understand. Very simple strategy, not a get quick rich scheme, safe, conservative strategy.
Thank you and ordered!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:15:14am |
re: #307 prononymous
If the account hasn't been closed already, for whatever reason, it is currently falling in value because of the failure to raise the debit limit.
Clear enough?
Thats clear
Unfortunately,. thats not what you stated
I recently closed and cashed out 3 mutual funds I have
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:15:14am |
re: #300 Killgore Trout
I highly recommend The Little Book of Common Sense Investing:
Small book, easy to read and understand. Very simple strategy, not a get quick rich scheme, safe, conservative strategy.
Good recommendation, KT
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:15:19am |
re: #279 darthstar
I'm proposing a moderate house for the remainder of the term. Mainstream (if there are more than a few dozen) Republicans should caucus with the Democrats (for the good of the country) and reject the Tea Party and its religious right extremist and isolationist platform. If they were to do that, the Tea Party would be flushed out in the next election, and yes, they'd have to wait another cycle or two to regain a majority - but four to six years of economic prosperity while the Republicans work their way back to a sizeable portion of the House wouldn't be the worst thing for us.
I think you need to wake up before starting to post.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:15:37am |
Ground Zero updates. Atheist group has sued the WTC museum for the installation of the Ground Zero cross at the museum. It's a suit that the museum can ill afford b/c of a tight budget, but there's room to make a deal - and it all depends on how it is presented and displayed.
Meanwhile, details of the 10th anniversary commemoration at Ground Zero are being released. Both President Obama and former President Bush will attend. They will make selected readings, but no speeches. They will attend for the name reading of all those killed on 9/11, including those at Shanksville and the Pentagon. Others in attendance include Rudy, Pataki, and Bloomberg, along with other state and local officials who were involved in the post-attack period.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:16:28am |
re: #310 ggt
Thank you and ordered!
You'll be glad you did. It takes a lot of the guesswork out of managing your own money. It will save you from a lot of stress and worry about your investments.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:17:27am |
re: #268 sattv4u2
its incredibly poor reading comprehension.
How so?
He's speculating that one had to do with another
I simply told him that it didn't,, ESPECAILLY in light that he has the funds in hand from the other 2 accounts!
You take a speculation and basically tell the guy he's got no worries, essentially giving him good news, and everybody's pissed off with you?
WTF?
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:17:42am |
re: #309 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.greenwichtime.com...]
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland's defense minister has stepped down in light of a new report that put most of the blame for last year's presidential plane crash on Polish officials and procedures.
A very preventable tragedy.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:18:31am |
re: #313 Naso Tang
I think you need to wake up before starting to post.
You have to admit it's a good idea - never happen, but a good idea.
Sometimes I worry that we're getting battered wives syndrome...sure, the Republicans are protecting the wealthy and screwing everyoen else...but they're sorry and they won't do it again...let's give them another chance, yes?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:18:42am |
re: #311 sattv4u2
Thats clear
Unfortunately,. thats not what you stated
I recently closed and cashed out 3 mutual funds I have
As in: I sent in the paperwork to close and cash out a week ago. I got 2 checks yesterday, but not the third. If I haven't gotten it in the mail today I'm going to have to call them up and make sure everything was ok with my paperwork.
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:18:55am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:19:00am |
re: #305 kirkspencer
Depends.
If you're purchasing it as a long-term fiscal investment, no.
If you're purchasing it as a pretty, maybe.
If you're purchasing it with the intent of selling for a profit, maybe.As rightwingconspirator notes, I'm basing my peak on the inflation adjusted Carter peak. I expect it's a bubble just as it was during Carter's tenure and just as it was for Russia and Venezuela and a few other places where economic unrest encouraged over-purchase.
The production price of gold (per Troy ounce) is $200 to $300, with some sources claiming as high as $500. Add markup and desire and the most you should see without market manipulation or persuasion is about double for just the metal, giving us $400 to $600 ($1,000).
As jewelry, you're paying for the work as well as the material. The worth of work from the artist is a significant variable. If you're purchasing a 14K necklace from a chain store it /should/ be a lot less than a 14K necklace from, say, Mary Lu Hu. Bottom line, if you're buying it for the metal, don't.
As short term, it depends on how well you watch the market. It will burst, but as with all bubbles the question is when. Sell near the peak and you're doing great. Sell early and you do well but kick yourself for the lost opportunity of closer to the peak. Sell late and kick yourself for losing money (bubbles collapse FAST).
Well, I'd be buying it because I like glittery things and if you buy glittery things with a "k" mark on them you can always sell/pawn them later if you need cash. Probably for a loss, but for more than something without a "k" mark on it.
Actually, some of the department stores are selling stuff at sales that are not a bad value. I bought a 14K gold beaded necklace for less than what I would pay for the gold beads at the online bead wholesaler I like. I bought it to tear it apart and remake it with other beads I have--and I got the 14K gold clasp with it.
With sales, coupons and added discounts if you use your dept store credit card, there are some good buys out there. Not necessarily for investment purposes . . . .
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:19:09am |
re: #314 lawhawk
That's dumb. That cross is an artifact. What they're pissed at is that it was erected. Let it go already.
That's like objecting to having crosses on tombstones in Army graveyards.
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blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:19:09am |
re: #295 sattv4u2
Seems as if you were, hence the reply to your
I hope it is just delayed in the mail and not failed to be processed or this debit limit BS is already eating into its value. which triggered it all!!
Good grief, have I walked into discussion in congress or what?
Cant you accept his own reality, that he was questioning if the processing is delayed (for whatever reason) that it could cut into the value, and not that the possible delay of the process itself was caused by the debt limit debate?
Maybe, just maybe you misunderstood his comment.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:19:23am |
re: #317 Ericus58
A very preventable tragedy.
Yes.
And hopefully this will put to rest the disgusting conspiracy theories among the Polish far right. I still remember that fake video somebody put on YT hours after the tragedy, with "Russians shooting the survivors".
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:19:27am |
re: #316 reine.de.tout
You take a speculation and basically tell the guy he's got no worries, essentially giving him good news, and everybody's pissed off with you?
WTF?
I pissed at Satt, but for no good reason.
/
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:20:11am |
re: #323 blueraven
Good grief, have I walked into discussion in congress or what?
Cant you accept his own reality, that he was questioning if the processing is delayed (for whatever reason) that it could cut into the value, and not that the possible delay of the process itself was caused by the debt limit debate?
Maybe, just maybe you misunderstood his comment.
I did,, and I responded
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:20:16am |
re: #275 Killgore Trout
Nothing like a little fear mongering to get the morning going. There is no damage at the moment. The damage occurs only if the default occurs. The ratings agencies aren't going to act until the default occurs, and even then one has to consider the US economy versus other investment opportunities and realize that it's still a safer investment than many other parts of the world.
This is brinksmanship at its worst, but it's nothing we haven't seen in the past. It will go down to the wire, but a deal will be done to extend the debt ceiling and the markets will move on to focus on the next crisis or opportunity (and well, even a crisis is an opportunity if you know where to look).
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:20:24am |
re: #325 Cannadian Club Akbar
I pissed at Satt, but for no good reason.
/
Don't piss AT him, piss ON him. You get much better results that way.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:20:31am |
re: #316 reine.de.tout
You take a speculation and basically tell the guy he's got no worries, essentially giving him good news, and everybody's pissed off with you?
WTF?
{sigh}
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:21:02am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:21:11am |
re: #328 thedopefishlives
Don't piss AT him, piss ON him. You get much better results that way.
nice!!
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:21:29am |
re: #322 Obdicut
It's a knee-jerk reaction that totally gives a bad name and image to those who are truly concerned about separating church and state.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:21:44am |
re: #328 thedopefishlives
Don't piss AT him, piss ON him. You get much better results that way.
But if he's on fire, I'm just helping.
/
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:22:04am |
re: #328 thedopefishlives
Don't piss AT him, piss ON him. You get much better results that way.
You boys and your water sports...
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:22:17am |
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:22:56am |
The laboratories of democracy have some bad news for austerity fans, you can read about it in my new page.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:22:56am |
re: #323 blueraven
Good grief, have I walked into discussion in congress or what?
Cant you accept his own reality, that he was questioning if the processing is delayed (for whatever reason) that it could cut into the value, and not that the possible delay of the process itself was caused by the debt limit debate?
Maybe, just maybe you misunderstood his comment.
Thank you.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:23:42am |
re: #335 sattv4u2
Just let me burn
I asked a girl out once. She said she wouldn't let me piss in her mouth if her teeth were on fire. Not sure what she meant by that...
/
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:23:45am |
re: #324 Sergey Romanov
Yes.
And hopefully this will put to rest the disgusting conspiracy theories among the Polish far right. I still remember that fake video somebody put on YT hours after the tragedy, with "Russians shooting the survivors".
Indeed - this was a self-inflicted tragedy by the President and/or his staff with their insistence to land at that airfield and not divert.
The Russians made every attempt to respond and render help.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:24:11am |
re: #320 Varek Raith
Voinovich - he was a relatively moderate Republican in the end and crossed party lines in his last days...therefore he's dead to the GOP and his opinions don't matter.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:24:29am |
re: #328 thedopefishlives
Don't piss AT him, piss ON him. You get much better results that way.
lulz
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:24:33am |
re: #338 Cannadian Club Akbar
I asked a girl out once. She said she wouldn't let me piss in her mouth if her teeth were on fire. Not sure what she meant by that...
/
She meant she had wooden teeth, so she was trying to save you from getting splinters, I guess!
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:25:15am |
re: #322 Obdicut
The atheist group has been at it ever since the cross was uncovered in the recovery efforts as they were clearing debris and it was decided that it would be incorporated into the memorial/museum project.
I don't have a problem with its erection in the museum precisely because it was a recovered artifact. That it takes the shape of the cross is incidental.
Are they making a deal out of the tridents that were previously installed? No. And that's despite their use in both certain Christian contexts, along with other religious groups (Hinduism).
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:25:25am |
re: #338 Cannadian Club Akbar
I asked a girl out once. She said she wouldn't let me piss in her mouth if her teeth were on fire. Not sure what she meant by that...
/
I think that means she likes you.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:25:59am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:26:29am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:27:31am |
re: #339 Ericus58
Russian govt got nothing but problems from this (e.g. they finally had to completely admit Katyn and to begin the transfer of some of the remaining documents, which is a big deal). And no positives whatsoever (killing a "hostile" President could easily lead to a backlash reaction and election of his brother, compared to whom Lech was almost a liberal). So the CTs don't work on a common sense level. Stops no one.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:29:04am |
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:29:31am |
re: #320 Varek Raith
Voinovich was always on the more sane side of the GOP. Glad to see him and Bartlett calling them out.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:30:08am |
re: #343 lawhawk
Hinduism is not the most influential religion in the US, so the double standard is pragmatically justified. It's a tricky issue, like crosses in Auschwitz. I think they should just have different symbols there.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:31:21am |
re: #327 lawhawk
Nothing like a little fear mongering to get the morning going. There is no damage at the moment. The damage occurs only if the default occurs. The ratings agencies aren't going to act until the default occurs, and even then one has to consider the US economy versus other investment opportunities and realize that it's still a safer investment than many other parts of the world.
I agree that much of the coverage is just drama and sensationalism but I think there is actual damage being done to the economy. I'm waiting to contract some home improvements. I'm ready to put about $25,000 into the economy. I would have done it last month but economic uncertainty has made me delay the decision until I feel confident the economy won't implode again. I'm not the only one. I think a lot of people are putting off spending because the loony Republicans have stretched out the debt debate to the last second.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:35:44am |
A topical abstruse goose:
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:35:49am |
re: #348 darthstar
Awww...
Image: 263218_10150249333285954_341406875953_7631741_7870 573_n.jpg
It's reaching for your nuts!
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blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:36:16am |
re: #351 Killgore Trout
I agree that much of the coverage is just drama and sensationalism but I think there is actual damage being done to the economy. I'm waiting to contract some home improvements. I'm ready to put about $25,000 into the economy. I would have done it last month but economic uncertainty has made me delay the decision until I feel confident the economy won't implode again. I'm not the only one. I think a lot of people are putting off spending because the loony Republicans have stretched out the debt debate to the last second.
Totally agree. How many capital investments are going to be made in this atmosphere?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:36:22am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:37:09am |
re: #355 ggt
why?
Why what?
Why is the squirrel reaching, or why HIS nuts as opposed to someone elses!?!?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:38:11am |
re: #320 Varek Raith
I REALLY HATE how I access websites and they already have my facebook linked to the comments. How the Fuck do I stop that? What part of 'account settings" on fb do I go to?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:38:31am |
re: #356 sattv4u2
Why what?
Why is the squirrel reaching, or why HIS nuts as opposed to someone elses!?!?
yes
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:38:36am |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:39:04am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:39:28am |
re: #359 darthstar
I don't get it.
;)
frustrating, huh
Maybe THATS why the squirrel is reaching for yours,, he likes BLUE nuts!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:40:02am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:40:09am |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:40:48am |
re: #362 sattv4u2
Ya had to re-post the PISSED AT SAT,, didn't ya!!
Well. . . yeah.
LOL.
mistake, I stink
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:40:49am |
re: #356 sattv4u2
Why what?
Why is the squirrel reaching, or why HIS nuts as opposed to someone elses!?!?
I figured it out. It's because they are covered in butter.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:43:02am |
re: #366 ggt
I figured it out. It's because they are covered in butter.
Damn it. Now everybody knows.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:43:58am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:44:22am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:45:12am |
Good god...Boehner is changing his bill again. Give it up, already, Boehner...your bill sucks.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:45:33am |
re: #371 ggt
either.
Great.,, I'll see you in the gutter in an hour
You'll know me,,, I'm the one that does NOT have the squirrel reaching for my nuts!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:46:31am |
re: #373 sattv4u2
Great.,, I'll see you in the gutter in an hour
You'll know me,,, I'm the one that does NOT have the squirrel reaching for my nuts!
naw, I had to get up early. I'm going to be napping in the bed in an hour. and the bed is not in the gutter.
no squirrels, just puppies.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:46:51am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:47:39am |
re: #376 ggt
naw, I had to get up early. I'm going to be napping in the bed in an hour. and the bed is not in the gutter.
no squirrels, just puppies.
In that case, i'll be there sooner!!
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:47:45am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:48:13am |
re: #379 sattv4u2
In that case, i'll be there sooner!!
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
Not those puppies.
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allegro Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:55:09am |
re: #348 darthstar
Awww...
Image: 263218_10150249333285954_341406875953_7631741_7870 573_n.jpg
Stelllaaa!!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:57:15am |
W explains his reaction on 9/11, but this won't change the minds of Troofers or those with BDS.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
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allegro Fri, Jul 29, 2011 7:59:01am |
Drat! It appears that TS Don will not be dropping his favors on Houston. I was so hoping he'd turn north.
(I still can't believe I've been hoping for a TS to hit us.)
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:00:00am |
re: #384 allegro
Drat! It appears that TS Don will not be dropping his favors on Houston. I was so hoping he'd turn north.
(I still can't believe I've been hoping for a TS to hit us.)
I posted how I was bummed for you guys earlier.:(
| 386 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:00:28am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:00:47am |
re: #383 Cannadian Club Akbar
W explains his reaction on 9/11, but this won't change the minds of Troofers or those with BDS.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
You mean the group that refuses to believe that life is a crap shoot? It just seems to happen the way it wants regardless of our planning, hoping and praying?
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Varek Raith Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:00:52am |
re: #384 allegro
Drat! It appears that TS Don will not be dropping his favors on Houston. I was so hoping he'd turn north.
(I still can't believe I've been hoping for a TS to hit us.)
Rick Perry's Fault.
/
| 389 |
Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:00:55am |
I've been watching the dust-up between Kosovo and Serbia at the northern Kosovo border crossings in the past 48 hours. Considering that next spring my son will be reporting to his command (18th MP Brigade) which support NATO Peacekeeping duties there, it grabs my attention.
Serb police, NATO boost forces after Kosovo violence
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
NATO peacekeepers can fire if attacked in Kosovo
" PRISTINA, Kosovo — American and French peacekeepers were told Thursday to fire their weapons in defense if attacked at border posts on Kosovo's northern boundary with Serbia, a day after the crossings were set ablaze by Serbs armed with firebombs, a NATO spokesman said.
There have been days of mounting tension between ethnic Albanians and minority Serbs after Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci ordered special police units to take over two disputed border posts that were previously manned by Serb members of the police under EU supervision. One Kosovo policeman died in the operation.
"We are in command of those places," NATO spokesman Capt. Hans Wichter said. "If we are threatened, we have the right to use weapons." He said the area was "declared a military zone," meaning the alliance makes all decisions related to security.
NATO troops were attacked late Wednesday by machine guns and anti-tank rockets as they moved to secure the border posts, the top NATO commander in Kosovo, Maj. Gen. Erhard Buehler, said. No injures were reported. They took control of the border posts Thursday."
(cont.)
There is more than just Iraq/Afghanistan where our service members serve in harms way.
| 390 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:01:59am |
re: #387 ggt
You mean the group that refuses to believe that life is a crap shoot? It just seems to happen the way it wants regardless of our planning, hoping and praying?
I was gonna say "Douchebags". But, whatever.:)
| 392 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:02:27am |
| 393 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:03:00am |
I'm off to nap --
Have a great day all!
| 394 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:06:37am |
| 395 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:07:39am |
re: #394 ggt
You know sattuV42. You missed my #369.
You were supposed to respond: "shmirnoff'.
To which I would reply: "vodka?"
Yea. That boy ain't to bright.
| 396 |
Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:09:39am |
re: #386 Cannadian Club Akbar
What bit of luck that no one was hurt!
And then she just tried to walk away - yeah, that'll work out fine.
And there were two other convenience stores in the area that also had cars drive into the,?! Is this a new pastime for delinquents?
| 397 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:12:53am |
re: #396 Ericus58
What bit of luck that no one was hurt!
And then she just tried to walk away - yeah, that'll work out fine.And there were two other convenience stores in the area that also had cars drive into the,?! Is this a new pastime for delinquents?
I miss the good ol' days when we just sat home doing bong hits.
//
| 398 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:16:13am |
re: #343 lawhawk
The atheist group has been at it ever since the cross was uncovered in the recovery efforts as they were clearing debris and it was decided that it would be incorporated into the memorial/museum project.
I don't have a problem with its erection in the museum precisely because it was a recovered artifact. That it takes the shape of the cross is incidental.
Are they making a deal out of the tridents that were previously installed? No. And that's despite their use in both certain Christian contexts, along with other religious groups (Hinduism).
I shrug at it all, but my opinion would be that every single cross beam in those building makes a cross. There is nothing mystical about finding this piece and in fact it was selected, probably out of innumerable similar ones.
It was not and is not an exclusive Christian site by any stretch and it would have been trivially simple to choose a part that was visually striking yet not appearing to claim dominance by one group over all others.
I have no respect for that aspect of it.
| 399 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:17:47am |
re: #348 darthstar
Awww...
Image: 263218_10150249333285954_341406875953_7631741_7870 573_n.jpg
Leopold conducting...
| 401 |
recusancy Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:31:43am |
re: #357 ggt
I REALLY HATE how I access websites and they already have my facebook linked to the comments. How the Fuck do I stop that? What part of 'account settings" on fb do I go to?
[Link: webgraph.com...]
| 402 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:32:19am |
You can't make this stuff up anymore. These people are beyond parody:
| 403 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:34:23am |
re: #402 Lidane
You can't make this stuff up anymore. These people are beyond parody:
I don't much care for Dick Morris or how he drools out of the side of his mouth when talking, as if he is thinking of hookers.
| 404 |
Interesting Times Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:37:52am |
re: #402 Lidane
You can't make this stuff up anymore. These people are beyond parody:
I believe Jon Stewart once referred to Dick Morris as "a lying sack of shit". I see no reason to dispute that charge.
| 405 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:38:37am |
re: #402 Lidane
You can't make this stuff up anymore. These people are beyond parody:
America to Dick Morris: Stop talking.
| 406 |
blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:39:27am |
re: #403 Naso Tang
I don't much care for Dick Morris or how he drools out of the side of his mouth when talking, as if he is thinking of hookers.
Not to mention the fact that he is wrong on everything. All.The.Time.
Who still listens to this idiot?
| 408 |
Daniel Ballard Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:43:44am |
Dom is getting darn good behind that camera...
We have yet another quite capable photographer among us. The more the merrier.
| 410 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:44:44am |
Aso, Larry Klayman is still made of total fail. This is hilarious:
Anti-Gay Preacher's Lawyer: 'Rachel Maddow's Career Is Over' (AUDIO)
Hahahaha. Oh, Larry. You're delusional.
| 411 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:46:32am |
re: #409 allegro
Braaaaaaaaains. (Since we don't have any anywhere in our news department.)
| 412 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:48:40am |
Sir John of Orange has apparently amended his bill to be "Cut. Cap, and Balance Lite". He's now got the Club for Decay Growth on his side:
[Link: talkingpointsmemo.com...]
How does this solve anything? He's moving BACKWARDS, since Cut. Cap and Balance has even less of a chance of passing the Senate than his old bill did.
What. The. FUCK. We're going to default because of Republican incompetence. Unbelievable.
| 413 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:49:22am |
Robert Spencer's books removed from FBI recommended reading list....
FBI ‘Islam 101′ Guide Depicted Muslims as 7th-Century Simpletons
An FBI spokesman said Spencer’s book is no longer on the reading list but was not sure about the others. “We encourage our agents to seek out a variety of viewpoints. That does not mean we endorse or adopt the view of any particular author,” the bureau’s statement continues. “Broad knowledge is essential for us to better understand and respond to the threats we face. Knowledge also helps us defeat ignorance and strengthen relationships with the diverse communities that we serve.”
| 414 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:49:48am |
re: #406 blueraven
Not to mention the fact that he is wrong on everything. All.The.Time.
Who still listens to this idiot?
He is paid to be wrong all the time. That's his job description.
| 415 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:51:35am |
re: #413 Killgore Trout
I don't know, I think I would've left it in, but just changed it to a different category. Labeled "Right-wing Nutjob Propaganda"...
| 416 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:52:07am |
re: #402 Lidane
You can't make this stuff up anymore. These people are beyond parody:
Dick Morris. The proverbial blowhard. You know who would be the first one complaining if they ever got rid of the FCC. Think about George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Word" and religious right wingers. They'd be the first one calling for regulations again to prevent their sensitive ears from hearing those words. And, the quickest way to a banana republic would be to get rid of the FCC.
| 417 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:52:32am |
re: #413 Killgore Trout
Robert Spencer's books removed from FBI recommended reading list...
FBI ‘Islam 101′ Guide Depicted Muslims as 7th-Century Simpletons
About time.
| 418 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:54:27am |
re: #416 Gus 802
Dick Morris. The proverbial blowhard. You know who would be the first one complaining if they ever got rid of the FCC. Think about George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" and religious right wingers. They'd be the first one calling for regulations again to prevent their sensitive ears from hearing those words. And, the quickest way to a banana republic would be to get rid of the FCC.
Words, plural...
Yo! Shit, piss, fuck, ****, bitch, damn, and tits.
| 419 |
Interesting Times Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:55:03am |
I see HappyWarrior on the "Show Users" list. If you're still here, guess who filched your good name?
| 420 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:56:44am |
re: #410 Lidane
Once again, you can advocate killing homosexuals, but if someone calls you out on it, you sue them for slander...
And paint yourself as a victim of a ruthless media and its gay agenda.
| 421 |
Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:58:18am |
re: #419 publicityStunted
I see HappyWarrior on the "Show Users" list. If you're still here, guess who filched your good name?
Incoming photo of our HappyWarrior upon reading this tidbit:
| 423 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:00:33am |
| 424 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:01:14am |
re: #420 ralphieboy
Once again, you can advocate killing homosexuals, but if someone calls you out on it, you sue them for slander...
And paint yourself as a victim of a ruthless media and its gay agenda.
Poor Larry. LOL He seems to have a thing about suing people...
Larry Elliot Klayman (born July 20, 1951) is an American attorney and activist. He is known as the founder and former Chairman of Judicial Watch, a public interest and non-profit law firm, which attained notoriety through the initiation of 18 civil lawsuits against the Clinton Administration, and later an unsuccessful lawsuit against Vice-President Dick Cheney in order to obtain information about the White House's energy task force.
In September 2003, Klayman left the organization to run for the United States Senate from Florida. He lost in the Republican primary. In 2006 Klayman sued Judicial Watch and its president Tom Fitton charging financial and other mismanagement issues which damaged Judicial Watch, the donors and Klayman.
and
In April 2011, Klayman filed a lawsuit against Facebook, accusing the social media website of "negligence" for not responding quickly enough to calls to take down an anti-Israel "Third Intifada" page and demanding $1 billion in damages. Facebook representatives responded that the suit was "without merit".
and
As of July 1, 2011, Klayman's Pennsylvania law license was in "Administrative Suspension" status (usually indicative of a failure to pay bar fees and/or a failure to keep up with Continuing Legal Education requirements).
Larry Klayman. Douche.
| 425 |
Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:01:59am |
| 426 |
abbyadams Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:03:14am |
re: #416 Gus 802
Beyond parody? Did you see the WND article that stated we started our slide into Communism in 1787 when the Constitution was signed? Lulz.
| 427 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:03:25am |
Do you know who I am? I'LL SUE YOU!
HEY! You KIDS GET OFFA MY LAWN!!
| 428 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:04:12am |
re: #418 Gus 802
Words, plural...
Yo! Shit, piss, fuck, ****, bitch, damn, and tits.
Wrong.
Shit, piss fuck, c***, cocks*cker, Motherf*cker, and tits.
| 429 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:04:21am |
re: #426 abbyadams
Beyond parody? Did you see the WND article that stated we started our slide into Communism in 1787 when the Constitution was signed? Lulz.
I must have missed that. Bummer. Yeah, WND is always good for a laugh. Pathetic fools that they are.
| 430 |
makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:04:27am |
An idle thought...
Remember the 'ticking time bomb scenario?' We're faced with a Tuesday deadline for default, and 2 Congressional leaders who could call this mess off and avoid it.
I'm not advocating torture here, just asking a question - what would Jack Bauer do?
///
| 431 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:05:48am |
re: #428 wrenchwench
Wrong.
Shit, piss fuck, c***, cocks*cker, Motherf*cker, and tits.
Ah. OK. I'm blazing away here. ;) Sort of.
Did you hear what that man said! Someone CALL TEH FCC!!11ty
| 432 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:06:51am |
re: #428 wrenchwench
And now, presenting the 7 words you can't say on the Internet.
| 433 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:06:57am |
re: #430 makeitstop
I'm not advocating torture here, just asking a question - what would Jack Bauer do?
///
Strap them down and make these idiots watch every Twilight film, Justin Bieber video, and Jersey Shore episode until they get over themselves and pass a damn bill already.
| 434 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:07:38am |
re: #430 makeitstop
An idle thought...
Remember the 'ticking time bomb scenario?' We're faced with a Tuesday deadline for default, and 2 Congressional leaders who could call this mess off and avoid it.
I'm not advocating torture here, just asking a question - what would Jack Bauer do?
///
I say we waterboard Rand Paul! But first we should practice with Louie Gohmert.
//
| 436 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:14:06am |
latimes Los Angeles Times
Clark Gable's grandson arrested for allegedly pointing laser at LAPD helicopter [Link: lat.ms...]
| 437 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:14:30am |
re: #432 thedopefishlives
And now, presenting the 7 words you can't say on the Internet.
Meh? I had no idea!
On some bicycle chat fora, they won't spell out 'helmet'.
| 438 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:17:00am |
| 439 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:17:08am |
re: #437 wrenchwench
Meh? I had no idea!
On some bicycle chat fora, they won't spell out 'helmet'.
Scientology!!11ty
//
| 440 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:17:48am |
re: #439 Gus 802
Scientology!!11ty
//
Oh, great, now you've triggered the Scientology watch list. Way to go./
| 441 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:19:23am |
words you can't say on the Internet
"you can't"
| 442 |
engineer cat Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:19:28am |
i eagerly await the explanation of why boner's failure is the fault of obama and the democrats
| 443 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:20:10am |
re: #442 engineer dog
i eagerly await the explanation of why boner's failure is the fault of obama and the democrats
because if enough democrats voted for it, it would pass...
| 444 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:20:47am |
re: #442 engineer dog
i eagerly await the explanation of why boner's failure is the fault of obama and the democrats
It will have to be a level of bullshit unseen since the GOP tried to pass Caribou Barbie off as a legitimate choice for VP. The general story in the press is about GOP obstruction and infighting leading to Boehner's failure.
| 445 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:21:28am |
latimes Los Angeles Times
It's not complicated: GOP economist explains why debt limit must be raised [video] [Link: lat.ms...]
| 446 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:26:21am |
| 447 |
HappyWarrior Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:26:48am |
The problem to me seems to be that many of the freshmen that Boehner can't control don't understand how government works. I guess that's why I oppose term limits personally. I want people in government who understand how it works not a bunch of knee jerk reactionaries.
| 448 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:28:45am |
re: #445 Gus 802
latimes Los Angeles Times
It's not complicated: GOP economist explains why debt limit must be raised [video] [Link: lat.ms...]
Have you noticed that it is only recently, even this last week, that TV pundits AND some politicians have started to explain simply and clearly :
"look, dumbass Tea Bagger, the debt ceiling is for debts we already have; budgets are about future debts".
| 449 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:29:13am |
These are people who got elected on the message that they were outsiders and they would not practice "politics as usual". In that respect they are being incredibly consistent.
| 450 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:30:41am |
On the latest trash from Dr. Roy Spencer (AGW)
Forbes Version of Science Journalism Is More Than A little Deluded.
Someone on twitter asked me about an op-ed in Forbes with the breath-taking title NEW NASA DATA BLOWS GAPING HOLE IN GLOBAL WARMING ALARMISM. With a title like that, you know right off the bat that this article is written for people looking for confirmation to their belief that ALL of the planet’s major science bodies are wrong and a very tiny handful of sceptics are right.
Furthermore, this is not from the editorial board of Forbes or a Forbes reporter, but instead from a writer for the ultra conservative Heartland Institute. The same people who sent me (and hundreds of other meteorologists working in TV) a glossy paper claiming that the surface temperature record could not be trusted based on a blog post by a blogger whose claim was totally discredited by NOAA.
The junk science piece in Forbes was based on a paper written by Dr. Roy Spencer a well-known climate sceptic here in Huntsville and was published in an open access journal of apparently rather dubious reputation. That in itself does not mean the paper is wrong, and it is important to remember that peer review has often said to be a necessary but not sufficient check on accuracy.
While a big name like Forbes is clearly unable to produce a decent science story, Stephanie Pappas at Live Science certainly can. Her piece on the paper is excellent, and well worth a read. Live Science asked some of the very top experts in the field about the paper like Kevin Trenberth at NCAR, and Gavin Schmidt at NASA. Pappas couldn’t find one climate scientist who agreed with the conclusions in Spencer’s paper.
A scientific critique of the claims in Spencer’s paper has been written by Barry Bickmore a geochemist at Brigham Young University. Hardly a center of liberal learning! Bickmore describes himself as “ a geochemistry professor at Brigham Young University, an active Mormon, and an active Republican. From 2008-2010 he was a County Delegate for the Republican Party. Anything he posts here (obviously) represents his personal opinions, and does not necessarily reflect the position of his employer, Brigham Young University.
| 451 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:33:20am |
"Legal Guns Would Make Norway Safer"
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
| 452 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:34:35am |
re: #448 Naso Tang
"look, dumbass Tea Bagger, the debt ceiling is for debts we already have; budgets are about future debts".
This needs to be stapled on the foreheads of every idiot teabagger in the country until they get it.
| 453 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:35:34am |
re: #452 Lidane
This needs to be stapled on the foreheads of every idiot teabagger in the country until they get it.
These people ran on being outsiders and not going for "politics as usual". And in that sense they are being incredibly consistent.
| 454 |
recusancy Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:36:58am |
re: #447 HappyWarrior
The problem to me seems to be that many of the freshmen that Boehner can't control don't understand how government works. I guess that's why I oppose term limits personally. I want people in government who understand how it works not a bunch of knee jerk reactionaries.
The idiots aren't in there because of term limits.
| 455 |
jdog29 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:37:18am |
When people point out how outrageous it would be to even consider voting for Sarah Palin if she were to run for the Presidency.... I just say, "Sarah Palin?! I'd vote for BRISTOL PALIN before I'd vote for the current president again." Then I laugh as their head explodes...///
| 457 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:38:52am |
re: #451 ralphieboy
"Legal Guns Would Make Norway Safer"
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
What's the plan? To arm the little kids at Utoya Island and prepare for the next attack? I can imagine. Newsmax. Another absurdity.
| 458 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:38:58am |
re: #453 ralphieboy
These people ran on being outsiders and not going for "politics as usual". And in that sense they are being incredibly consistent.
I know. They ran on being ignorant, reactionary, obstructionist outsiders. And that's what they are.
I just wish they weren't about to destroy the American economy in the process.
| 459 |
makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:39:20am |
re: #455 jdog29
When people point out how outrageous it would be to even consider voting for Sarah Palin if she were to run for the Presidency... I just say, "Sarah Palin?! I'd vote for BRISTOL PALIN before I'd vote for the current president again." Then I laugh as their head explodes...///
Sure. Why vote for Stupid when you can follow the bloodline and vote for extremely stupid?
| 460 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:02am |
re: #457 Gus 802
What's the plan? To arm the little kids at Utoya Island and prepare for the next attack? I can imagine. Newsmax. Another absurdity.
You can't arm any of those kids that would have been at that camp. They're liberals.
///
| 461 |
McSpiff Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:05am |
re: #459 makeitstop
Sure. Why vote for Stupid when you can follow the bloodline and vote for extremely stupid?
Worked out pretty well for the Bushes.
| 462 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:08am |
A well-done video "Debunking the Kalam Cosmological Argument of William Lane Craig". Although I disagree with her on some points of reasoning, it's at least worth watching for those interested.
| 463 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:10am |
re: #456 McSpiff
What an odd comment.
Shh! Quiet. This might be his flounce. He's on center stage.
Ten bucks sez he won't say another word.
| 464 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:37am |
re: #452 Lidane
This needs to be stapled on the foreheads of every idiot teabagger in the country until they get it.
What I don't understand is how the Democrats missed making the case 6 months or more ago when the GOP (TP) started linking deficit negotiations to debt ceiling.
| 465 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:49am |
Offered without comment--Rep A. West via Politico:
Tea Party is 'Schizo'.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
| 466 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:40:49am |
re: #461 McSpiff
Worked out pretty well for the Bushes.
can't wait until the twins enter politics...
| 468 |
Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:41:42am |
re: #465 Decatur Deb
Offered without comment--Rep A. West via Politico:
Tea Party is 'Schizo'.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Allen West said this?
| 469 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:42:08am |
re: #460 Lidane
You can't arm any of those kids that would have been at that camp. They're liberals.
///
That's the point, they would not have been armed even if they had been allowed to excercise their God-given right to be.
| 470 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:42:19am |
| 471 |
darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:42:44am |
re: #455 jdog29
When people point out how outrageous it would be to even consider voting for Sarah Palin if she were to run for the Presidency... I just say, "Sarah Palin?! I'd vote for BRISTOL PALIN before I'd vote for the current president again." Then I laugh as their head explodes...///
Shouldn't you be on the House floor voting for Boehner's bill right now, congressman Teabag?
| 473 |
Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:43:29am |
re: #465 Decatur Deb
Offered without comment--Rep A. West via Politico:
Tea Party is 'Schizo'.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Memo to Allen West: No shit. That's why populism is incoherent nonsense.
| 474 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:43:31am |
| 475 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:44:38am |
re: #474 ralphieboy
He said he'd "drive the car", remember?
He said "put the president on the front line in harms way", more or less.
| 476 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:44:40am |
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
"ISTANBUL—Turkey's Chief of the General Staff, Gen. Isik Kosaner, retired from his post Friday in a surprise decision, the state news agency Anadolu Ajansi said, triggering a fall in the Turkish currency, the lira."
And I read on a Russian news site that actually the whole military leadership resigned.
| 477 |
makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:45:00am |
| 478 |
blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:46:15am |
Apparently, Boehner has tweaked his plan. He has tied future debt increase to a BB amendment.
Stupid!re: #455 jdog29
When people point out how outrageous it would be to even consider voting for Sarah Palin if she were to run for the Presidency... I just say, "Sarah Palin?! I'd vote for BRISTOL PALIN before I'd vote for the current president again." Then I laugh as their head explodes...///
How lovely. *eyeroll*
| 479 |
po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:46:25am |
Pam Gellar supporting Norwegian terrorists
A different one, I think.
Someone has dug up an old Pam Gellar post (June 2007). Get it before the memory hole catches up!
It's an email from a Norwegian terrorist that she's protecting by keeping it him anonymous. Seriously.
| 480 |
darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:46:43am |
Paul Ryan last night on Fox:
. You know, I just never thought that was realistic, to demand Democrats vote against their conscious for our version of the Balanced Budget Amendment. So I just never thought that would work.
Why the fuck is Boehner wasting his time adding a Balanced Budget Amendment clause to his shit bill?
| 481 |
jdog29 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:47:53am |
re: #471 darthstar
Shouldn't you be on the House floor voting for Boehner's bill right now, congressman Teabag?
you're not keeping up... The tea party is picketing at Bainer's house (we always spell his name phoenetically) and trying to primary him....///
| 482 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:48:50am |
re: #480 darthstar
Paul Ryan last night on Fox:
Why the fuck is Boehner wasting his time adding a Balanced Budget Amendment clause to his shit bill?
Because it'll score him points with the rabid Teabagger base. He's actually INTENDING on forcing the United States into default. Then he can blame it on the Democrats' refusal to vote on his "responsible" budget bill, and everyone will love him and think he's doing the best job ever.
...Now if you'll excuse me, typing that out left my bullshit detector smoking, so I'll BRB.
| 483 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:50:07am |
re: #479 po8crg
Pam Gellar supporting Norwegian terrorists
A different one, I think.
Someone has dug up an old Pam Gellar post (June 2007). Get it before the memory hole catches up
[Link: www.webcitation.org...]
| 484 |
recusancy Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:51:10am |
re: #478 blueraven
Apparently, Boehner has tweaked his plan. He has tied future debt increase to a BB amendment.
Stupid!
How lovely. *eyeroll*
The BB amendment is one of the stupidest things I've seen in a long time. It basically guarantees we'll be fucked in the future when we need deficit spending.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:52:04am |
re: #483 Sergey Romanov
Thank you, I knew there were tools for this, but couldn't find them.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:52:30am |
re: #476 Sergey Romanov
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
"ISTANBUL—Turkey's Chief of the General Staff, Gen. Isik Kosaner, retired from his post Friday in a surprise decision, the state news agency Anadolu Ajansi said, triggering a fall in the Turkish currency, the lira."
And I read on a Russian news site that actually the whole military leadership resigned.
Yep.
"The chief of the Turkish armed forces has resigned, along with the heads of the army, navy and air force, according to the state-run Anatolia news agency.
The reason for the resignations of Gen Isik Kosaner and the other heads remains unclear.
There has been a history of tension between the secularist military and the government of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in recent years."
BBC
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:52:35am |
re: #485 po8crg
Thank you, I knew there were tools for this, but couldn't find them.
Never fear. The Internet is forever.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:53:15am |
re: #485 po8crg
Thank you, I knew there were tools for this, but couldn't find them.
You might reconsider the line you're taking though. "Terrorist"? Nuh-uh.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:53:45am |
re: #463 Gus 802
Shh! Quiet. This might be his flounce. He's on center stage.
Ten bucks sez he won't say another word.
It does however illustrate that no amount of brilliant logic, as is evident here, will sink through to everyone no matter how long it is explained. We need to accept these people and take care of them as best we can, for they know not what they do.
I think somebody said something like that.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:53:47am |
re: #487 thedopefishlives
Unfortunately, things to fall through the cracks often.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:53:56am |
re: #490 Sergey Romanov
= do fall
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:54:24am |
Boehner's deal is getting worse all the time.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:54:28am |
So, I walked past the NY Fed a little while ago and the news crews were out and about waiting for the participants of various meetings on the debt ceiling to come out or to give their midday reports. Same situation over at Federal Hall, where a NBC crew occupied the prime spot overlooking the NYSE and the crowds.
With the DJIA paring its losses from the open, I'd say that someone has a good idea that things aren't as bad and/or the debt deal will get done in some fashion.
Meanwhile, the Obama Administration gets a win on auto emissions and CAFE standards.
On Friday, when President Obama announced even stricter standards — in fact, the largest increase in mileage requirements since the government began regulating consumption of gasoline by cars in the 1970s — the chief executives of Detroit’s Big Three were in Washington again.But this time they were standing in solidarity with the president, who was also surrounded by some of Detroit’s highest-tech — and most fuel-efficient — new vehicles.
While the American carmakers, as well as their Asian rivals, once argued against even minimal increases in government fuel rules, they are acquiescing without protest to an increase to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025, from the current 27 miles per gallon.
The new standards are seen by the Obama administration as critical to reducing oil consumption and cutting consumer expenses at the pump, and the White House made it clear to Detroit executives that the changes were coming and they needed to cooperate.
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Kragar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:55:01am |
re: #492 darthstar
Boehner's deal is getting worse all the time.
[Video]
Pray he doesn't alter it further...
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:56:19am |
re: #488 Sergey Romanov
You might reconsider the line you're taking though. "Terrorist"? Nuh-uh.
OK, I might be pushing a bit hard. But someone stockpiling weapons against the Mooslims is pretty damn close, no?
| 497 |
engineer cat Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:57:00am |
Boner Woos Hobbit Clusterfuck With Balanced Bullshit Amendment
members declare "this will do nothing to repeal gravity"
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Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:57:56am |
re: #483 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.webcitation.org...]
Also...
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:58:19am |
re: #495 po8crg
OK, I might be pushing a bit hard. But someone stockpiling weapons against the Mooslims is pretty damn close, no?
I don't see that in the letter. Can you elaborate? Did he post anything in the comments, which I haven't read?
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:58:20am |
re: #481 jdog29
you're not keeping up... The tea party is picketing at Bainer's house (we always spell his name phoenetically) and trying to primary him...///
I thought it was Boner?
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:59:26am |
re: #478 blueraven
Apparently, Boehner has tweaked his plan. He has tied future debt increase to a BB amendment.
Stupid!
How lovely. *eyeroll*
Oh, it's worse than that. The plan says the second raise won't be brought to the house for vote unless both the house and the senate PASS a BB amendment. Remember that to pass out to the states for ratification, an amendment must get 2/3 of both the houses. This, when the basic test for whether a Republican will vote for a bill is that it is not liked by Democrats.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 9:59:59am |
re: #486 Ericus58
I'll take their military over the fucking Erdogan any time.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:00:44am |
re: #499 Sergey Romanov
I don't see that in the letter. Can you elaborate? Did he post anything in the comments, which I haven't read?
Serves me right for trusting to quotes from people I should know better than to trust.
Withdrawn.
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jdog29 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:01:17am |
"re: #494 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Pray he doesn't alter it further...
I heard Ben Nelson just got Nebraska an exemption from the debt limit ceiling fiasco... ///
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:01:47am |
re: #503 po8crg
Heh.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:02:10am |
re: #501 kirkspencer
Oh, it's worse than that. The plan says the second raise won't be brought to the house for vote unless both the house and the senate PASS a BB amendment. Remember that to pass out to the states for ratification, an amendment must get 2/3 of both the houses. This, when the basic test for whether a Republican will vote for a bill is that it is not liked by Democrats.
Boehner's plan summarized: "Fuck you, America."
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Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:02:37am |
re: #489 Naso Tang
It does however illustrate that no amount of brilliant logic, as is evident here, will sink through to everyone no matter how long it is explained. We need to accept these people and take care of them as best we can, for they know not what they do.
I think somebody said something like that.
Guess it was a joke that came off wrong or something. Might need to get my radar repaired. ;)
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:02:43am |
re: #502 Sergey Romanov
I'll take their military over the fucking Erdogan any time.
that is the no-win situation we face in a lot of Muslim nations: remember that Khadaffi, Mubarak and Saddam were secularists and kept the Islamic terrorists at bay in their counties. But the price we paid for supporting or tolerating them was to fuel further Islamist sentiment.
And we must not forget the irony that there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq until they stepped into the power vacuum we created by our regime change.
| 509 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:03:22am |
Can someone explain to me why the Democrats are not voting on their bill in the Senate now?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:03:25am |
re: #479 po8crg
Pam Gellar supporting Norwegian terrorists
A different one, I think.
Someone has dug up an old Pam Gellar post (June 2007). Get it before the memory hole catches up!
It's an email from a Norwegian terrorist that she's protecting by keeping it him anonymous. Seriously.
Interesting but is there proof it's from the killer? Was that part of his manifesto?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:04:09am |
re: #499 Sergey Romanov
I don't see that in the letter. Can you elaborate? Did he post anything in the comments, which I haven't read?
This might be an innocent error. So might the last two or three postings of old issues with Lizard hot-button content that didn't quite fit the facts.
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:04:33am |
re: #509 Naso Tang
Can someone explain to me why the Democrats are not voting on their bill in the Senate now?
Reid's moving it forward today. It will require no Republicans object, amend, or put secret holds on it in order to get it through by Tuesday.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:05:24am |
re: #503 po8crg
Serves me right for trusting to quotes from people I should know better than to trust.
Withdrawn.
Just to clarify, the version I saw quoted had an additional paragraph between the third and fourth of the letter:
"We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast."
That does not appear on the version on her website. Of course, it's possible that she put it down the memory hole, rather than someone else adding it. We shall see, no doubt.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:05:43am |
re: #512 darthstar
Reid's moving it forward today. It will require no Republicans object, amend, or put secret holds on it in order to get it through by Tuesday.
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:06:28am |
re: #508 ralphieboy
Those three are each a different case. Iraq shouldn't have been invaded, period. With Kaddafi it's a matter of protecting a civilian population from imminent danger. With anti-Mubarak protests there was (is?) at least some hope of a change for the better, and as much risk. Erdogan is yet a fourth way - a democratically elected leader who apparently wants to reshape the country in the mold of justices Scalia and Thomas.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:06:31am |
re: #514 jamesfirecat
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
cussing my brains out on TV and radio
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:06:35am |
re: #514 jamesfirecat
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
At work.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:07:06am |
re: #510 Killgore Trout
Interesting but is there proof it's from the killer? Was that part of his manifesto?
It's not his style.
(although I believe we are the very last generation on earth before the return of God)
And
Never fear, Pamela. God is with you too in this coming time.
The "john jay" creep in the comments is an SIOA board member, I think.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:07:26am |
re: #511 Decatur Deb
This might be an innocent error. So might the last two or three postings of old issues with Lizard hot-button content that didn't quite fit the facts.
I sure hope Charles sees this.
| 520 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:07:54am |
re: #513 po8crg
Can you say where you saw it quoted?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:08:16am |
re: #514 jamesfirecat
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
Reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal", interpreting it literally, and applying it.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:09:00am |
Pam Comments on the Norwegian email....
I always find it interesting that Duncan and his ilk avoid these types of posts...Hmmm, I wonder why?
John Jay says: "are we to slip into an eternal dark ages without a fight?"
That IS the question exactly...
Who's Duncan?
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:09:34am |
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:09:38am |
re: #521 negativ
Reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal", interpreting it literally, and applying it.
See? Any time there's a crisis people start eating the Irish...can we never catch a break?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:09:42am |
re: #518 wrenchwench
The "john jay" creep in the comments is an SIOA board member, I think.
He's also a rabid LGF critic.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:10:12am |
re: #511 Decatur Deb
This might be an innocent error. So might the last two or three postings of old issues with Lizard hot-button content that didn't quite fit the facts.
Wait, where are those?
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:10:26am |
re: #524 darthstar
See? Any time there's a crisis people start eating the Irish...can we never catch a break?
It's that peaty flavor
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:10:43am |
re: #514 jamesfirecat
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
Job hunting, customer hunting, wondering which bill gets delayed a few days.
There won't be an instant crash for everyone. There's a lot of stickiness in the system, plus there's the fact that despite these people's wishes most people want things to get better. Becuase of that, most of us will do what we normally do on a Tuesday -- except we'll also keep a wary eye on things in case we're one of the slippage points.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:12:32am |
Wait, po8crg is right.
[Link: original.antiwar.com...]
From Israel the hordes clawing at the walls of Jerusalem proclaim cheerfully that next year there will be no more Israel, and I know Israel shrugs this off as do I, and will mount a strike during the summer against all of its enemies in the middle east. This will make the muslims worldwide go into a frenzy, attacking everyone around them.
We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.
My apologies.
This should make some noise.
| 530 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:12:52am |
re: #529 Sergey Romanov
I mean [Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...] - Gus's link above.
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Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:13:44am |
re: #514 jamesfirecat
Given the long odds of that, where do you guys plan to be on August 2nd when we default?
Giving my internship presentation and finalizing my portfolio. I plan on firmly distracting myself with school next week.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:13:50am |
re: #523 po8crg
The page I was linked to is here
The link was in a private email (from a friend who would have no reason to mislead me).
Ah ok. Justin Raimondo is a loon so I'm a little cautious. He speculates that it might be the killer. Certainly possible but there's no proof. He is correct that Pam should come clean about the identity of the author considering what happened. The Norwegian authorities should investigate the person who wrote the letter.
| 533 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:15:15am |
po8crg, let me suggest that you better form your page, and we'll run with it. Use blockquote tags to cite the message from [Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]
Drop the comments - they overload the page. And make a big point of her trying to revise the text.
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lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:16:55am |
re: #533 Sergey Romanov
You can always screen cap the page - for posterity's sake.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:17:03am |
Oh, ho, Pam's been editing her past:
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...] has the original version with the "stockpiling and caching weapons" part in it.
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makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:17:18am |
re: #528 kirkspencer
Job hunting, customer hunting, wondering which bill gets delayed a few days.
There won't be an instant crash for everyone. There's a lot of stickiness in the system, plus there's the fact that despite these people's wishes most people want things to get better. Becuase of that, most of us will do what we normally do on a Tuesday -- except we'll also keep a wary eye on things in case we're one of the slippage points.
I'm keeping a very close eye on this whole mess.
My wife and I have been planning and saving for years to add a second floor to our house. This year we finally got enough money to do it, hired an architect, and are now waiting for a variance hearing with our town that will take place, ironically enough, on August 2.
I'm hoping against hope that sanity returns to Congress and the country doesn't default. We've been planning this for years and I don't want to put it off any more.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:17:46am |
re: #534 lawhawk
You can always screen cap the page - for posterity's sake.
Screencapping is not a proof of anything. I'll make you 100 screencaps of any site saying anything. Third-party caching services are the only serious proof.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:17:51am |
re: #532 Killgore Trout
Breivik was rather meticulous about not getting caught, cannot imagine him telegraphing his plans like that...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:18:05am |
re: #535 po8crg
Oh, ho, Pam's been editing her past:
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...] has the original version with the "stockpiling and caching weapons" part in it.
See my #533
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:18:29am |
re: #535 po8crg
Oh, ho, Pam's been editing her past:
[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...] has the original version with the "stockpiling and caching weapons" part in it.
Interesting. So she's aware of the email and is trying to hide evidence.
| 541 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:18:31am |
re: #538 ralphieboy
Breivik was rather meticulous about not getting caught, cannot imagine him telegraphing his plans like that...
Yeah, it's not him, but that point is about Geller, so...
| 542 |
AK-47% Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:19:16am |
re: #536 makeitstop
I'm hoping against hope that sanity returns to Congress and the country doesn't default.
The "sanity" part is asking too much, but let's hope they don't default...
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blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:19:19am |
re: #504 jdog29
"
I heard
Ben Nelson just got Nebraskathe wealthiest corporations and individuals just got an exemption from the debt limit ceiling fiasco... ///
There.
| 544 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:20:05am |
re: #526 Sergey Romanov
Wait, where are those?
A week or so back, someone did a page with a long-discredited story of the AL Attorney Gen's gay lover. (That AG is not even in office.) There was another out-of-date one that we bit on embarrassingly, don't remember the subject.
| 545 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:20:23am |
I think the author might be in the comments using the name "magnus andersson "
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:21:48am |
re: #529 Sergey Romanov
Wait, po8crg is right.
[Link: original.antiwar.com...]
My apologies.
This should make some noise.
Eww, cached at Raimondo's site. He's just as nutty as Pam.
| 547 |
makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:22:02am |
re: #542 ralphieboy
The "sanity" part is asking too much, but let's hope they don't default...
I'm beginning to have doubts about either. It's fucking depressing is what it is.
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Gus Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:22:13am |
re: #539 Sergey Romanov
See my #533
Found this backtracked at Wayback...
Archive for Norway
War for Norway: A Letter From a Sanguinary Future
Posted by: Lee | June 25th, 2007 · 1:04 PM
Atlas has a troubling letter from a Norwegian about demographic replacement in his country. He writes that immigration from Muslim countries to Norway is now approaching 35,000 annually. Given the high birthrates of Muslim immigrants, that’s a very large influx in view that Norway’s entire population is less than that of Colorado (4.6 million).
The nations capital is already 50% muslim, and they ALL go there after entering Norway. Adding the 1.2 births per woman per year from Muslim women, there will be 300 000+ Muslims out of the then 480 000 inhabitants of that city.Orders from Libya and Iran say that Oslo will be known as Medina at the latest in 2010, although I consider this a PR-stunt nevertheless it is their plan.
(Atlas Shrugs)All very true* and troubling (*note: 50% figure for Oslo is exaggerated, it’s about half that as of now). But then the letter turns militant and apocalyptic, with fears that Armageddon is at hand. From our contemporary time and place one’s “militia kook” alarm goes off instantly with this stuff. But in Europe, the author is perhaps only an early convert to an argument which will become increasingly persuasive, as the Muslim to Christian ratio continues to tilt heavily in favor of an Islamic majority:
We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.
[…]
Oslo and the southeast may fall easily, but there are other lines than “state”-borders drawn across this country since long before there was even a single Muslim in the world, and we have held them this long, against everyone else too. We are entering a new golden age for my people, and those of a handful other countries, but only through struggle.
(Atlas Shrugs)Presumably he means withdrawal to the north into the Jotunheimen, for a defense of the Gudbrandsdal Valley. A sound short-term strategy that has worked in the past, but ultimately an untenable position against a force that controlled the southern North Sea ports. Losing Oslo means losing the interior by pieces.
They’d have to defend Trondheim and Namsos against an amphibious assault which would cut the country in half (again the southern ports become permanent threats to the north). But the primary problem would be to defend the Hedmark, against land encirclement by Muslim advance up the Glomma. Both of these moves were employed successfully by the Germans in Operation Weserübung and could be done so again.
| 549 |
Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:23:43am |
re: #537 Sergey Romanov
Screencapping is not a proof of anything. I'll make you 100 screencaps of any site saying anything. Third-party caching services are the only serious proof.
Screencaps are the easiest thing to Photoshop.
| 550 |
darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:24:15am |
re: #541 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, it's not him, but that point is about Geller, so...
So she was friends with multiple Christian Norwegian Terrorists?
| 551 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:24:58am |
re: #549 Alouette
Screencaps are the easiest thing to Photoshop.
Even easier - changing the HTML code at runtime, as many browsers now allow.
| 553 |
William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:26:29am |
re: #492 darthstar
I regret that I have but one upding to give for this video.
| 554 |
lawhawk Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:26:44am |
re: #535 po8crg
And as you read the comments, Pam says that she specifically ran the piece anonymously because it could violate Norwegian speech laws (and possibly US laws for that matter). She knew that this could be bad - but went ahead and posted it anyways.
Now? She's trying to clean up a mess of her own creation. Sorry, but the wayback machine will never let anyone forget what you do online.
| 555 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:27:36am |
po8crg, will you consider revising the page as suggested, trimming it down to the message, citing the archived links and correcting Geller's name? IF you do, great. If not, and unless Charles does a separate posting, I think someone else should do the "clean-looking" page for consumption.
| 556 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:29:49am |
re: #555 Sergey Romanov
po8crg, will you consider revising the page as suggested, trimming it down to the message, citing the archived links and correcting Geller's name? IF you do, great. If not, and unless Charles does a separate posting, I think someone else should do the "clean-looking" page for consumption.
Editing pages can be difficult sometimes. I often have trouble because the "save changes" button is hidden off the screen and I can't resize the window enough to access it.
| 557 |
po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:30:12am |
re: #555 Sergey Romanov
I've revised the page extensively now. I was editing it as you were posting.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:30:26am |
search her site for all mentions of norway. look up all results on the wayback machine.
expose her.
| 559 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:31:46am |
I am actually very impressed by the sleuthing going on here.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:32:05am |
re: #558 000G
Frankly, I'm surprised she doesn't have the wayback machine blocked on her site. She drops enough stuff down the memory hole that she'd want to.
| 561 |
RadicalModerate Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:32:52am |
The fact that Geller memory-holed the passage - very recently I might add - after her abject agreement with the message should be a front-page post. Also, I'm starting to get a sneaky suspicion that her "anonymous" Norwegian emailer may very well have been Breivik.
| 562 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:32:55am |
re: #559 Naso Tang
I am actually very impressed by the sleuthing going on here.
We here at LGF pride ourselves on our ability to expose the BS. This is what happens when you don't glue yourself to a list of talking points.
| 563 |
Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:34:43am |
re: #562 thedopefishlives
We here at LGF pride ourselves on our ability to expose the BS. This is what happens when you don't glue yourself to a list of talking points.
I pride myself on the ability to recognize BS, but I was talking of the techniques of navigating the back alleys of the web.
| 564 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:35:08am |
re: #557 po8crg
I've revised the page extensively now. I was editing it as you were posting.
Wait, now I see only a quote without links or comments.
| 565 |
Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:35:42am |
re: #563 Naso Tang
I pride myself on the ability to recognize BS, but I was talking of the techniques of navigating the back alleys of the web.
We should teach classes in Google-fu and the use of the Wayback Machine. They're both incredibly powerful tools if you know what you're doing.
| 566 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:36:28am |
OK, I'm off for a while, and if nothing happens, I'll do a page myself.
| 567 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:39:56am |
Oh, one last thing b4 I go - because I love meta-meta, here's a WebCite of the WebArchive:
[Link: www.webcitation.org...]
Doubleproof, hehe.
| 568 |
makeitstop Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:40:24am |
Reid throws down: You have until midnight.
| 569 |
wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:42:41am |
re: #559 Naso Tang
I am actually very impressed by the sleuthing going on here.
Gus is really good on the Google.
| 570 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:43:44am |
The edit was made recently. Google cache still has the original version.....
We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.
Anyone know how often google cache updates?
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:43:46am |
Well, re: #564 Sergey Romanov
Wait, now I see only a quote without links or comments.
Yeah, my edit got eaten. Try again now.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:48:42am |
re: #570 Killgore Trout
The edit was made recently. Google cache still has the original version...
Anyone know how often google cache updates?
It seems google cache updates more frequently when pages are changed and/or linked to. Geller's getting a lot of traffic to that page (which is probably why she edited it) so that means the changes were probably fairly recent.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:50:36am |
re: #561 RadicalModerate
The fact that Geller memory-holed the passage - very recently I might add - after her abject agreement with the message should be a front-page post. Also, I'm starting to get a sneaky suspicion that her "anonymous" Norwegian emailer may very well have been Breivik.
I don't think it's him. See #518.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:54:08am |
re: #574 wrenchwench
I don't think it's him. See #518.
I wouldn't venture a guess either way but the author says "We are stockpiling weapons." Might be BS, Might be the killer, or an associate, might just be someone's fantasy. I would guess her attempting to hide the information about a Norwegian stockpiling weapons and preparing for war might even be criminal. It's certainly immoral.
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blueraven Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:54:54am |
re: #570 Killgore Trout
The edit was made recently. Google cache still has the original version...
Anyone know how often google cache updates?
Based on the cached version I get from a website I am very involved with...it shows the cached version as July 25
I have found it to be about once a week as a general rule for that site.
Google takes a snapshot of each page examined as it crawls the web and caches these as a back-up in case the original page is unavailable. If you click on the "Cached" link, you will see the web page as it looked when we indexed it. The cached content is the content Google uses to judge whether this page is a relevant match for your query.
When the cached page is displayed, it will have a header at the top which serves as a reminder that this is not necessarily the most recent version of the page. Terms that match your query are highlighted on the cached version to make it easier for you to see why your page is relevant.
The "Cached" link will be missing for sites that have not been indexed, as well as for sites whose owners have requested we not cache their content.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:55:18am |
As I've just discovered, you can't WebCite Google cache, so, in a few days, it will be difficult to prove how recently it was memory-holed (the last Wayback machine copy is from 30 December 2007).
For the record, though, the Google cache page (with the now-edited text) says "It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 30, 2011 23:14:14 GMT".
So it was edited in the last month. I wonder why?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:56:11am |
re: #576 blueraven
Based on the cached version I get from a website I am very involved with...it shows the cached version as July 25
Thanks.
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po8crg Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:57:07am |
OK, I'm going home now to my broken internet, so I might not be able to comment until Monday.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:58:02am |
re: #577 po8crg
For the record, though, the Google cache page (with the now-edited text) says "It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jun 30, 2011 23:14:14 GMT".
So it was edited in the last month. I wonder why?
It wasn't edited last month. It was edited after the Cache date. Probably within the past day or so when people started linking to that page. She probably noticed it in her referrals list.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:58:23am |
re: #579 po8crg
OK, I'm going home now to my broken internet, so I might not be able to comment until Monday.
Thanks for sharing the link.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:59:07am |
re: #580 Killgore Trout
It wasn't edited last month. It was edited after the Cache date. Probably within the past day or so when people started linking to that page. She probably noticed it in her referrals list.
There's an "oh shit" moment for ya.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jul 29, 2011 10:59:18am |
I have this horrible craving for chocolate. There is an emergency chocolate bar in my desk.
Should I....?
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:00:06am |
re: #575 Killgore Trout
I wouldn't venture a guess either way but the author says "We are stockpiling weapons." Might be BS, Might be the killer, or an associate, might just be someone's fantasy. I would guess her attempting to hide the information about a Norwegian stockpiling weapons and preparing for war might even be criminal. It's certainly immoral.
She wouldn't know moral if it bit her on the nose. Her poison has proven fatal, and she's trying to relabel all the bottles.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:00:31am |
re: #583 Alouette
I have this horrible craving for chocolate. There is an emergency chocolate bar in my desk.
Should I...?
That's what it's for, right?
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:01:04am |
re: #582 thedopefishlives
There's an "oh shit" moment for ya.
If Gellar really wanted to clean up the hateful crap she's written, she'd open a command prompt and type "format c:"
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Lidane Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:05:30am |
re: #582 thedopefishlives
There's an "oh shit" moment for ya.
Yeah, except that it can't be erased that easily. The internet is forever, as Pam is finding out.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:07:22am |
re: #586 darthstar
If Gellar really wanted to clean up the hateful crap she's written, she'd open a command prompt and type "format c:"
"fomrat c;" "fromat x"....."why isn't this working, I need a drink"
/Pam's drunken typing
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darthstar Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:08:34am |
re: #587 Lidane
Yeah, except that it can't be erased that easily. The internet is forever, as Pam is finding out.
Pam's got e-herpes.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:09:01am |
Interfering with an investigation. Attempting to destroy evidence. Pam's lawyer might be making a lot of money in the future.
I wonder if she'll eat the halal food in prison. It doubles as kosher.
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Achilles Tang Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:10:40am |
I have an idea. Let's nationalize Apple and do the Wall Street thing with it..
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Olsonist Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:19:50am |
You can assume that Geller knows who the email is from. Unfortunately, the passage:
We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.
could have been deleted because of Breivik's terrorism rather than because it was from Breivik.
Still, it is a piece of data. Certainly it isn't the only example of Geller covering her tracks. We need more examples. The more she tries to cover her tracks, the more it says about her communications.
The one part of the email that seems like Breivik is:
It's far from impossible to achieve, after all my people has done it every time before, in feats that match the ancient greek, hebrew and british "legends".
The manifesto 1.22 is big on legends.
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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:21:30am |
re: #579 po8crg
OK, I'm going home now to my broken internet, so I might not be able to comment until Monday.
Enjoy the weekend, fer sure.
Methinks you should come around more often, you've been registered for awhile!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 29, 2011 11:53:13am |
re: #562 thedopefishlives
We here at LGF pride ourselves on our ability to expose the BS. This is what happens when you don't glue yourself to a list of talking points.
I pride myself on my ability to watch other people expose BS as I half-assedly follow the threads while pretending to work.
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