Uh Oh: Third Ex-Employee Claims She Was Sexually Harassed by Cain

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Herman Cain’s sexual harassment problem gets even worse.

WASHINGTON — A third former employee says she considered filing a workplace complaint over what she considered aggressive and unwanted behavior by Herman Cain when she worked for the presidential candidate in the 1990s. She says the behavior included a private invitation to his corporate apartment.

She worked for the National Restaurant Association when he was its head. She told The Associated Press that Cain made sexually suggestive remarks or gestures about the same time that two co-workers had settled separate harassment complaints against him.

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323 comments
1 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:08:29pm

Who saw this coming?

Oh right, everyone.

2 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:08:38pm

This third accuser will be tarred as nothing more than a bimbo eruption, and that she didn't sue or take other action will be used to impugn her credibility. She'll be tarred as someone looking to get her 15 minutes.

Yet, it would be further indication of a pattern of behavior of inappropriate and illegal behavior.

3 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:09:22pm

Now some details are coming out since she isn't bound by a confidentiality agreement.

4 erik_t  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:09:36pm

♫ The wheels on the campaign spin off and off, off and off, off and off... ♫

5 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:10:20pm

I haven't had time to keep up on this story today, but how are his supporters and the right wing taking all this news?
Are they supporting him or turning?

6 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:10:30pm

So, Romney/(Liddy) Dole 2012?

Romney/Rice?

7 erik_t  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:10:46pm

re: #5 Cankles McCellulite

So far, wagons are circling. But it's early.

8 nines09  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:11:19pm

That sound you hear is the hull being completely ripped wide open on the SS Cain. Next sound will be the splash of people going over the side.

9 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:11:40pm

Don't worry. I'm gonna make sure everything is all right.

10 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:12:07pm

re: #5 Cankles McCellulite

I haven't had time to keep up on this story today, but how are his supporters and the right wing taking all this news?
Are they supporting him or turning?

freepers are still behind him and looking for rinos to snarl at

11 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:12:46pm

re: #5 Cankles McCellulite

I haven't had time to keep up on this story today, but how are his supporters and the right wing taking all this news?
Are they supporting him or turning?

Still spouting the "destroying the powerful black conservative" line. We'll see how long they keep it up. I expect Cain to be in the Bachmann and Santorum league soon.

12 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:13:24pm

So who benefits, other than Romney? Is it Gingrich's turn to make a run at the top? And how many minutes would it take before he got hit by "bimbo eruptions"?

13 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:13:56pm

I cannot believe he did not think this would get out.

14 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:14:29pm

re: #12 aagcobb

So who benefits, other than Romney? Is it Gingrich's turn to make a run at the top? And how many minutes would it take before he got hit by "bimbo eruptions"?

Perry.

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:14:43pm

Gary Johnson 2012!!! NOW'S OUR TIME!!!

16 erik_t  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:15:14pm

re: #12 aagcobb

I think we're out of time. I don't see a fifth surge coming from the peanut gallery.

17 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:15:40pm

re: #14 Winny Spencer

Perry.

Perry picked a bad time to shoot himself in the foot again.

18 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:15:50pm

re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gary Johnson 2012!!! NOW'S OUR TIME!!!

Buddy Roemer's poll numbers will soar.

19 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:15:56pm

re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar

Rudy 2008. It's our time! Besides, with all the other candidates flaming out, my slow and measured campaign strategy may finally have a chance.

20 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:15:57pm

re: #14 Winny Spencer

Do you think Perry still has a chance? I know a lot of people down here really like him, but i am in Texas so....

21 Simply Sarah  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:16:05pm

re: #2 lawhawk

This third accuser will be tarred as nothing more than a bimbo eruption, and that she didn't sue or take other action will be used to impugn her credibility. She'll be tarred as someone looking to get her 15 minutes.

Yet, it would be further indication of a pattern of behavior of inappropriate and illegal behavior.

And what about the fourth? And the fifth? And the sixth? How many women can they deny and smear before it's one too many?

22 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:16:12pm

re: #12 aagcobb

So who benefits, other than Romney?

Humanity in general.

23 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:16:41pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Rudy 2008. It's our time! Besides, with all the other candidates flaming out, my slow and measured campaign strategy may finally have a chance.

He's going to finally take Florida. This was the plan all along.

24 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:16:45pm

I wonder if his wife will still be appearing on Fox this Friday to do the "Stand by Your Man" interview. I feel bad for her and his kids.

25 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:16:59pm

The political consultant mentioned in the previous thread currently works for a Perry PAC, by the way.

26 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:17:50pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Rudy 2008. It's our time! Besides, with all the other candidates flaming out, my slow and measured campaign strategy may finally have a chance.

I still like Rudy. Sniffle.

27 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:18:09pm

Oh, the humanity....

A modest proposal to former offenders: "20 years ago, I was a total jerk, and behaved in a way I will never cease to regret. I of course was enjoined from any contact with the woman (women) after her accusation, so let me say now what I couldn't say then, how deeply sorry I am. I will never cease to regret my behavior. However, these incidents made me reconsider how I behave to my colleagues and associates, and I believe the lessons I learned guarantee that I won't do it again, or tolerate others' doing it."

But no, they have to pretend to alabaster innocence. Once a jerk, always a jerk.

28 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:19:08pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

Do you think Perry still has a chance? I know a lot of people down here really like him, but i am in Texas so...

I actually think his inebriated speech will help him among the base. A more relaxed demeanor can only improve his chances.

However, Mittens will be the nominee. I have seen in it in my dreams.

29 Simply Sarah  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:19:20pm

re: #25 Charles

The political consultant mentioned in the previous thread currently works for a Perry PAC, by the way.

Figures. I'm not really a fan of political intrigue and back stabbing, but if it brings this sort of disgusting behavior to light, I'm not really going to complain.

30 mr.fusion  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:19:35pm

re: #25 Charles

The political consultant mentioned in the previous thread currently works for a Perry PAC, by the way.

There's no question that it's Perry (in my mind at least), but I just love how the Cain supporters, and virtually the entire right wing noise machine, are blaming "liberals." As if there's a liberal in this country that doesn't want Cain as the nominee........

31 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:19:40pm

I got 99 problems ...

32 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:20:34pm

re: #21 Simply Sarah

How many you got? /Cain

Seriously though, we've seen how this kind of thing works with DSK. You can be accused of being a womanizer for years on end, have incidents occur (other accusers back in France for example), and something happen at a hotel room that involved sexual misconduct in NYC but the investigators couldn't prove a crime happened. So DSK skates, and the woman involved is left with few options (diplomatic immunity may thwart civil action).

33 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:20:45pm

re: #25 Charles
Really? And the thot plickens. I still am 100 percent sure Cain is guilty but this is an interesting twist.

34 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:21:25pm

re: #30 mr.fusion

There's no question that it's Perry (in my mind at least), but I just love how the Cain supporters, and virtually the entire right wing noise machine, are blaming "liberals." As if there's a liberal in this country that doesn't want Cain as the nominee...

I haven't noticed any liberals really going after him. Stewart's piece was even kind of a defense of him, in that it stressed these are just allegations, and they mainly benefit Romney.

So where is the big liberal conspiracy? Is it is a conspiracy to bring up something true-- that he got accused of sexual harassment-- and then just let him beclown himself with his reactions to it?

35 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:21:56pm

re: #25 Charles

The political consultant mentioned in the previous thread currently works for a Perry PAC, by the way.

He's a potted plant! /rwnj

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:22:22pm

You know who I feel bad for? The poor bastard who bought 2000 Cain/2012 tee-shirts off the internet last week hoping to make a few dollars.

37 aagcobb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:23:36pm

re: #34 Obdicut

I haven't noticed any liberals really going after him. Stewart's piece was even kind of a defense of him, in that it stressed these are just allegations, and they mainly benefit Romney.

So where is the big liberal conspiracy? Is it is a conspiracy to bring up something true-- that he got accused of sexual harassment-- and then just let him beclown himself with his reactions to it?

In freeper world, Romney has no chance of beating Obama, or even if he does, he's another big-spending liberal just like Obama, so that's why the libruls are bent on the destruction of a powerful black conservative like Cain.

38 Simply Sarah  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:24:19pm

re: #32 lawhawk

How many you got? /Cain

Seriously though, we've seen how this kind of thing works with DSK. You can be accused of being a womanizer for years on end, have incidents occur (other accusers back in France for example), and something happen at a hotel room that involved sexual misconduct in NYC but the investigators couldn't prove a crime happened. So DSK skates, and the woman involved is left with few options (diplomatic immunity may thwart civil action).

I'm all to familiar with the way things work. I take small solace in the fact that DSK's political career seems to have been derailed by the arrest and that it, at least for a time, opened up a bit of a dialogue about that sort of behavior, but yes, normally the rich and powerful guy mostly gets away with it and the victims are left slimed and vilified and broken.

It's a big part of why more women don't fucking come forward to start with. Suffered enough already without being ripped apart in the media and such.

39 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:24:33pm

re: #24 CuriousLurker

I wonder if his wife will still be appearing on Fox this Friday to do the "Stand by Your Man" interview. I feel bad for her and his kids.

As a matter of fact, it makes me dislike Cain intensely. He had to know it was almost inevitable that this would come out and cause his family pain. This is what his wife deserves after 43 years of marriage and raising his two children? Prick.

40 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:24:44pm

re: #34 Obdicut

I haven't noticed any liberals really going after him. Stewart's piece was even kind of a defense of him, in that it stressed these are just allegations, and they mainly benefit Romney.

So where is the big liberal conspiracy? Is it is a conspiracy to bring up something true-- that he got accused of sexual harassment-- and then just let him beclown himself with his reactions to it?

I'm pretty sure the Dems would love for Cain to get the nomination so I doubt it's from them. I really don't know how this works but probably the GOP insiders are happy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

41 zora  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:25:11pm

re: #5 Cankles McCellulite

his fundraising numbers are up and anybody who believes he sexually harrassed anyone is a racist. that sums up what the response from the right has been.

42 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:25:15pm

re: #30 mr.fusion

There's no question that it's Perry (in my mind at least), but I just love how the Cain supporters, and virtually the entire right wing noise machine, are blaming "liberals." As if there's a liberal in this country that doesn't want Cain as the nominee...

Blaming a Republican would alienate other Republicans. Blaming liberals just invites sympathy (not to mention donations). It's a no-brainer.

43 Simply Sarah  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:26:32pm

And on this sour note, I must bid you all farewell for now...which sounds really, really stuffy and pretentious.

44 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:27:13pm

Oakland not on strike which works out nice because the protesters can buy lunch.
Protesters block Oakland streets in general strike bid

"A lot of the small businesses actually have closed," organizer Cat Brooks said of the strike's effectiveness. "A lot of the food places and other things, we appreciate them staying open (to feed protesters)."

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:28:00pm

Wanna know what really sucks? Kim Kardashian's marriage lasted longer than Herman's rise and fall, to and from the top. Heh.

46 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:28:24pm

re: #43 Simply Sarah

Bummer.

47 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:29:35pm

re: #34 Obdicut

I haven't noticed any liberals really going after him. Stewart's piece was even kind of a defense of him, in that it stressed these are just allegations, and they mainly benefit Romney.

So where is the big liberal conspiracy? Is it is a conspiracy to bring up something true-- that he got accused of sexual harassment-- and then just let him beclown himself with his reactions to it?

If so, it's working like a champ.

The wife and I just got back from a day trip to the Bronx Zoo. Lovely time.

48 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:29:36pm

I just keep picturing in my head, Romney sitting in his beautiful home library/office with a martini in one hand and a Cuban cigar in the other watching all the embarrassing news about Perry and Cain on his 70 inch Plasma, grinning from ear to ear.

49 wilburs  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:29:45pm

Is it time for Jeb to ride in on the big white horse yet?

He's waiting off stage right for his cue.

50 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:30:36pm

re: #48 Cankles McCellulite

I just keep picturing in my head, Romney sitting in his beautiful home library/office with a martini in one hand and a Cuban cigar in the other watching all the embarrassing news about Perry and Cain on his 70 inch Plasma, grinning from ear to ear.

Make that mineral water and no cigar.

51 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:30:36pm

re: #49 wilburs

Is it time for Jeb to ride in on the big white horse yet?

He's waiting off stage right for his cue.

I don't think anyone's terribly excited for continuing the Bush dynasty.

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:30:55pm

re: #49 wilburs

Is it time for Jeb to ride in on the big white horse yet?

He's waiting off stage right for his cue.

There wouldn't have even have been a contest if Jeb was there from the beginning.

53 Gus  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:31:17pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Oakland not on strike which works out nice because the protesters can buy lunch.
Protesters block Oakland streets in general strike bid

Good observation. Keen. That's probably never happened before in the history of general strikes.

54 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:32:37pm

re: #50 Winny Spencer

Make that mineral water and no cigar.

And wearing flip flops while eating a waffle.

55 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:32:49pm

re: #49 wilburs

Is it time for Jeb to ride in on the big white horse yet?

He's waiting off stage right for his cue.

Well then, he missed it. Filing dates have come and gone. What you see is what you get.

56 zora  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:33:03pm

Cain Indicates He’s Not Aware That China Has Nuclear Weapons

WOODRUFF: Do you view China as a potential military threat to the United States?

CAIN: I do view China as a potential military threat to the United States.

WOODRUFF: And what could you do as president to head that off?

CAIN: My China strategy is quite simply outgrow China. … [W]e already have superiority in terms of our military capability, and I plan to get away from making cutting our defense a priority and make investing in our military capability a priority, going back to my statement: peace through strength and clarity. So yes they’re a military threat. They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat.

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

he's not ready for prime time whether he sexually harassed someone or not.

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:33:20pm

Don't go anywhere, Cain! Stay in the race! You can do it!

58 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:34:09pm

re: #56 zora

Cain Indicates He’s Not Aware That China Has Nuclear Weapons

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

he's not ready for prime time whether he sexually harassed someone or not.

We had fun with that last night.

59 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:34:54pm

re: #57 WindUpBird

Don't go anywhere, Cain! Stay in the race! You can do it!

Oh, I hope so. This crop of Republicans is so bad, the worst ones deserve to win to be then throughly thrashed.

60 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:37:01pm

re: #59 Sergey Romanov

Oh, I hope so. This crop of Republicans is so bad, the worst ones deserve to win to be then throughly thrashed.

Ideally it'll be Cain, and then his running mate will be someone like Bachmann, someone who's full on bonkers so-con, so Obama can humiliate all facets of the crazy GOP base

61 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:37:32pm

This simply must precipitate a Perry resurgence.

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:37:44pm

re: #56 zora

Nice headline but I read that as having nuke capabilities for aircraft carriers. Their subs are still recent.

63 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:38:00pm

Ugh, OT:

Fears of Fission Rise at Stricken Japanese Plant

TOKYO — Nuclear workers at the crippled Fukushima power plant raced to inject boric acid into the plant’s No. 2 reactor early Wednesday after telltale radioactive elements were detected there, and the plant’s owner admitted for the first time that fuel deep inside three stricken plants was probably continuing to experience bursts of fission.

The unexpected bursts — something akin to flare-ups after a major fire — are extremely unlikely to presage a large-scale nuclear reaction with the resulting large-scale production of heat and radiation. But they threaten to increase the amount of dangerous radioactive elements leaking from the complex and complicate cleanup efforts, raising startling questions about how much remains uncertain at the plant, the site of the world’s worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl. The Japanese government has said that it aims to bring the reactors to a stable state known as a “cold shutdown” by the end of the year. [...]

64 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:40:15pm

re: #56 zora

Cain Indicates He’s Not Aware That China Has Nuclear Weapons

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

he's not ready for prime time whether he sexually harassed someone or not.

Sheesh they've been part of the Nuclear club since Mao was still around. And yeah sexual harassment or not, the guy's not ready for prime time talking dumb shit like that. His China "policy" which in his words is to simply outgrow them is dumb too.

65 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:41:03pm

re: #63 CuriousLurker

Ugh, OT:

Yeah, that's probably been going on since three of the reactors melted down.

66 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:41:52pm

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice headline but I read that as having nuke capabilities for aircraft carriers.

Does the word "and" mean nothing these days?

67 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:42:06pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Sheesh they've been part of the Nuclear club since Mao was still around. And yeah sexual harassment or not, the guy's not ready for prime time talking dumb shit like that.

October 16, 1964.

68 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:42:20pm

re: #61 Winny Spencer

This simply must precipitate a Perry resurgence.

When asked if he expected his campaign would have a resurgence, Perry denied ever vomiting after drinking.

69 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:44:37pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

October 16, 1964.

He was only forty seven years off :). But yeah they've been part of the nuclear club for a long time and have been for much of the PRC's history. How could a man seeking the highest office in the land be that ignorant?

70 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:45:16pm

re: #68 darthstar

When asked if he expected his campaign would have a resurgence, Perry denied ever vomiting after drinking.

But did he have a glass of water by his bedside? :) Water the old anti-hangover.

71 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:45:39pm

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice headline but I read that as having nuke capabilities for aircraft carriers. Their subs are still recent.

That's not what he said, and even if it's what he meant the Chinese have a nuclear aircraft carrier currently at sea.

72 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:45:51pm

Cain: "This Senator McCarthy fella might be on to something"

73 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:46:23pm

re: #53 Gus 802

Good observation. Keen. That's probably never happened before in the history of general strikes.

just like sexual harassment charges in that regard....ho hum

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:46:42pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

That's not what he said, and even if it's what he meant the Chinese have a nuclear aircraft carrier currently at sea.

[Link: www.aviationweek.com...]

75 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:47:56pm

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.aviationweek.com...]

Beginning in 2020 or soon after, two 60,000-plus-ton nuclear-powered carriers would follow, based on plans for the Soviet-designed but never built Project 1143.7 Ulyanovsk class.

76 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:48:17pm

i remember that in 2007-2008 mccain was down in the polls, and widely condemned as an evil "moderate" by the wingnuts. then, of course, he mysteriously began to win once the primaries started

does anybody remember who the wingnut favorite was in 2007 and early 2008 before the voting started?

77 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:48:21pm

For those wondering which social media to use in a given situation.

78 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:49:24pm

re: #76 engineer dog

i remember that in 2007-2008 mccain was down in the polls, and widely condemned as an evil "moderate" by the wingnuts. then, of course, he mysteriously began to win once the primaries started

does anybody remember who the wingnut favorite was in 2007 and early 2008 before the voting started?

Fred.

79 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:49:33pm

re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beginning in 2020 or soon after, two 60,000-plus-ton nuclear-powered carriers would follow, based on plans for the Soviet-designed but never built Project 1143.7 Ulyanovsk class.

The US is building its 10th Supercarrier fleet...that's 10 more Supercarriers than the rest of the world - combined.

Own the seas, and you'll own the skies too.

80 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:50:33pm

re: #78 Sergey Romanov

Fred.

That's who I seem to recall too.

81 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:50:45pm

re: #76 engineer dog

i remember that in 2007-2008 mccain was down in the polls, and widely condemned as an evil "moderate" by the wingnuts. then, of course, he mysteriously began to win once the primaries started

does anybody remember who the wingnut favorite was in 2007 and early 2008 before the voting started?

Thompson. Knew some wingers who thought that guy would make a good president. I think his true identity is the cure for insomnia. Did not see his appeal at all.

82 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:51:25pm

re: #79 darthstar

The US is building its 10th Supercarrier fleet...that's 10 more Supercarriers than the rest of the world - combined.

Own the seas, and you'll own the skies too.

Except if the Russians attack from Canada and the Cubans parachute in from Mexico.

"WULBEREENS!!!"

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:51:35pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Thompson. Knew some wingers who thought that guy would make a good president. I think his true identity is the cure for insomnia. Did not see his appeal at all.

Hey, man. He rocked on Law and Order!!

84 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:51:46pm

re: #79 darthstar

The US is building its 10th Supercarrier fleet...that's 10 more Supercarriers than the rest of the world - combined.

And, to top it off, what China is building are not supercarriers.

85 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:52:26pm

re: #83 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, man. He rocked on Law and Order!!

Should've stayed there too.

86 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:52:29pm

re: #78 Sergey Romanov

Fred.

Mittens was quite popular too, strangely enough.

87 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:52:30pm

re: #83 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, man. He rocked on Law and Order!!

I like McCoy and Schiff better.

88 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:53:06pm

David Brooks, still a weapons-grade asshole:

Let’s detach ourselves from the specifics of the Cain case and consider a general question: If you are the victim of sexual harassment, and you agree to remain silent in exchange for a five-figure payoff, should any moral taint attach to you? In the old days, somebody who allowed a predator to continue his hunting in exchange for money would certainly be considered a sinner. I’m reluctant to judge people in these circumstances, but I’m inclined to agree. Am I missing something?

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:53:20pm

re: #86 Winny Spencer

Mittens was quite popular too, strangely enough.

Among the hard-right, freeper contingent? I have my doubts.

90 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:54:05pm

It depends what kind of winger really. I knew a lot of staunch economic conservatives who detested Huckabee because he's more populist in rhetoric. Of course it was funny that those same people embraced Palin who is very much a populist in rhetoric.

91 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:54:18pm

re: #88 makeitstop

David Brooks, still a weapons-grade asshole:

Am I missing something?

A sense of ethics? Morality? Decency? A soul?

92 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:54:41pm

Compare
and
Contrast.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:54:50pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

It depends what kind of winger really. I knew a lot of staunch economic conservatives who detested Huckabee because he's more populist in rhetoric. Of course it was funny that those same people embraced Palin who is very much a populist in rhetoric.

Alan Keyes 2008!!!

94 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:55:20pm

re: #88 makeitstop

David Brooks, still a weapons-grade asshole:

In the old days, somebody who allowed a predator to continue his hunting in exchange for money would certainly be considered a sinner.

If he really considered a harasser to be a predator, that's who he'd be focused on.

95 leftynyc  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:55:22pm

re: #88 makeitstop

David Brooks, still a weapons-grade asshole:

Note to David Brooks from a liberal: Please, please, please keep going after the women, call them every dirty name in the book and get all your righty friends to join in. Impugn their character and defend the powerful man who harassed them. As as liberal Democrat, I'm begging you to keep it up.

96 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:55:53pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alan Keyes 2008!!!

*Shivers* I actually knew a family in 2000 that supported him. The parents thought mine were heathens for giving my brothers and I a secular upbringing.

97 erik_t  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:56:41pm

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice headline but I read that as having nuke capabilities for aircraft carriers. Their subs are still recent.

Bwuh? So far as the West is aware, the Chinese have had nuclear-powered submarines since the mid-1970s, and boomers since the late 1980s.

98 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:56:55pm

re: #88 makeitstop

David Brooks, still a weapons-grade asshole:

That's right, it's the victim's fault. What a dickface.

99 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:56:56pm

re: #76 engineer dog

i remember that in 2007-2008 mccain was down in the polls, and widely condemned as an evil "moderate" by the wingnuts. then, of course, he mysteriously began to win once the primaries started

does anybody remember who the wingnut favorite was in 2007 and early 2008 before the voting started?

Like every primary regardless of what party, it ebbs and flows

Rudy was THE 'one" for awhile ,, Fred has his turn on the leaderboard,,, Huckabee was the sure thing for a time ,,,,

100 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:58:26pm

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

Among the hard-right, freeper contingent? I have my doubts.

Well, I remember Rush, Coulter et al. being pro-Mittens.

101 wilburs  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:59:54pm

re: #55 neilk

Well then, he missed it. Filing dates have come and gone. What you see is what you get.

To my knowledge, NH and SC are the only ones that have closed, and that has just happened in the last 2 days.

Some states require signatures though.

102 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:00:09pm

re: #100 Winny Spencer

Well, I remember Rush, Coulter et al. being pro-Mittens.

Heh, thanks. Something I should definitely look up.

103 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:00:35pm

re: #100 Winny Spencer

Well, I remember Rush, Coulter et al. being pro-Mittens.

As I recall it, they liked him because he wasn't McCain who was hated by the wingnuts at the time because of the immigration bill he worked on with Kennedy. I recall their support of Mitt being lukewarm at best. In fact, I remember hearing Limbaugh on the best to community college talking about how Thompson was the one and then his spintrip after Thompson proved to be a flop. I remember Coulter saying she liked Duncan Hunter. They didn't like Huckabee because in their minds Huckabee was somehow a liberal.

104 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:01:19pm

re: #97 erik_t

Bwuh? So far as the West is aware, the Chinese have had nuclear-powered submarines since the mid-1970s, and boomers since the late 1980s.

My bad. You were right on the subs

105 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:01:54pm

re: #97 erik_t

Bwuh? So far as the West is aware, the Chinese have had nuclear-powered submarines since the mid-1970s, and boomers since the late 1980s.

They also have neutron bombs.
OOGABOOGA

106 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:02:01pm

re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar

My bad. You were right on the subs

I'll have a chicken parm if you're ordering!

107 mr.fusion  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:02:16pm

re: #100 Winny Spencer

Well, I remember Rush, Coulter et al. being pro-Mittens.

Youtube Video

start at the :48 second mark

108 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:02:25pm

re: #106 sattv4u2

dammit
TAKE 2

109 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:02:43pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

They also have neutron bombs.
OOGABOOGA

They also have a General Tzo.

110 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:02:55pm

re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar

My bad. You were right on the subs

I'll have a chicken parm if you're ordering!

111 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:03:20pm

re: #92 Varek Raith

Not to mention that China's being to look a little...off economically and stability wise.

The Nimitz-class can carry 85-90 Fighters.

The Carriers China is making can only carry 30 at max. They are more similar to the current USS Wasp.

Not only that, but India's Carrier are better in than the one China has. And they are farther along with building new ones, and have a great amount of help from Russia on military matters.

112 Winny Spencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:03:26pm

re: #107 mr.fusion

Youtube Video
113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:03:38pm

re: #100 Winny Spencer

Well, I remember Rush, Coulter et al. being pro-Mittens.

Damn, you're right! At least about Rush.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:03:38pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

I'll have a chicken parm if you're ordering!

So, 2 total?
/

115 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:04:08pm

re: #83 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, man. He rocked on Law and Order!!

And The Hunt for Red October...

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:04:46pm

Alrighty. For some reason nobody brings smokes to me. BBIAB.

117 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:05:50pm

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. For some reason nobody brings smokes to me. BBIAB.

That tobacco doesn't grow, pick, dry, and roll itself up, y'know!

///

118 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:06:09pm

The second part of the statement bothers me too. It seems as if Cain wants to start a second Cold War but with the Chinese. I am no fan of the Chinese government obviously but that just sounds so stupid. Anyhow, China's got a big year coming up. Isn't Hu Jintao stepping down as General Secretary soon? I know the CCP is choosing a new general secretary soon and despite what foreign policy novices like Cain may think not every potential Chinese leader is going to be the same. Just like Deng Xiaopeng was different than Mao and the Gang of Four.

119 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:06:32pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

They also have neutron bombs.
OOGABOOGA

It's not their neutron bomb that concerns me,, ,nor how many nuke subs or aircraft carriers they have,, nor how many planes they can put up

It's this

1,339,724,852

Thats their population as of a year ago

1,339,724,852

Ours as of a few days ago

312,538,000

1,339,724,852
0,312,538,000

do the math!!

120 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:07:24pm

re: #119 sattv4u2

It's not their neutron bomb that concerns me,, ,nor how many nuke subs or aircraft carriers they have,, nor how many planes they can put up

It's this

1,339,724,852

Thats their population as of a year ago

1,339,724,852

Ours as of a few days ago

312,538,000

1,339,724,852
0,312,538,000

do the math!!

Neutron bombs are obsolete anyways.
:P

121 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:07:32pm

Cain wants to deal with China the same way Reagan dealt with Russia, but this time he wants us to be the Russians.

122 erik_t  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:07:42pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I know the CCP is choosing a new general secretary soon and despite what foreign policy novices like Cain may think not every potential Chinese leader is going to be the same. Just like Deng Xiaopeng was different than Mao and the Gang of Four.

Who really cares about the People's People's People's People's People's Republic of Chinanananana anyway?

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:08:04pm

re: #112 Winny Spencer

*whistles*
How times change.

124 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:08:15pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Neutron bombs are obsolete anyways.
:P

Hell,, they could "obsolete" a BILLION people and still have more than us!!

:)

125 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:08:50pm

re: #124 sattv4u2

Hell,, they could "obsolete" a BILLION people and still have more than us!!

:)

ZERG RUSH

126 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:08:54pm

And on that note,, time to walk the pooches

A nice afternoon for the park

C'Mon boys ,, lets go!

127 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:09:06pm

re: #122 erik_t

Yeah! They're all godless Commies who hate Jesus. Seriously though some of the best history education I've gotten was taken two semesters of Chinese history this past fall and spring. Real helpful for understanding that China is a quite complicated place.

128 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:10:14pm

re: #119 sattv4u2

Thing is, with in 10-20 years, China's population will be to decrease. Meanwhile, the United States' population will continue to grow, hitting about 450m by 2050. Immigration could easily jack that number higher.

And again, China is showing some major economic issues now. And, in the past century, China has had an extremely poor history in warfare.

China's a problem, that I don't doubt. However, they are beginning to show weakness, and the PRC government is reviled around the world.

129 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:10:20pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

The second part of the statement bothers me too. It seems as if Cain wants to start a second Cold War but with the Chinese. I am no fan of the Chinese government obviously but that just sounds so stupid. Anyhow, China's got a big year coming up. Isn't Hu Jintao stepping down as General Secretary soon? I know the CCP is choosing a new general secretary soon and despite what foreign policy novices like Cain may think not every potential Chinese leader is going to be the same. Just like Deng Xiaopeng was different than Mao and the Gang of Four.

Yeah, if China goes after us they screw themselves over.
If we go after them, we screw ourselves over.
We are just far too intertwined, where as we really weren't with the Soviet Union.

130 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:10:22pm

re: #120 Varek Raith

Neutron bombs are obsolete anyways.
:P

Not obsolete, they're just not cost effective if you're just going to have sit there in silos and have to replace them every few years.

If you plan on using them as soon as you make them, they're great.

131 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:11:17pm

re: #130 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not obsolete, they're just not cost effective if you're just going to have sit there in silos and have to replace them every few years.

If you plan on using them as soon as you make them, they're great.

Weren't they mainly for irradiating tank crews?

132 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:11:39pm

re: #131 Varek Raith

Weren't they mainly for irradiating tank crews?

Or are you referring to the EMP aspect?

133 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:11:46pm

re: #129 Varek Raith

We can find new nations to make cheap shit.

The only thing here is the debt issue. It could be easily solved if one side of the spectrum wasn't so dogmatic.

134 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:13:21pm

re: #112 Winny Spencer

Take a look.

[Link: www.popmodal.com...]

135 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:14:36pm

re: #134 Sergey Romanov

Take a look.

[Link: www.popmodal.com...]

But then Ann Coulter is actually too liberal *shudder*. She's been excommunicated by WND.

136 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:17:24pm

re: #131 Varek Raith

Weren't they mainly for irradiating tank crews?

It relied on a higher radiation burst, killing living organisms, but leaving infrastructure largely untouched beyond the detonation point.

The problem is that a neutron warhead has a drastically shorter "shelf life", meaning you have to swap out the materials more often and pay a higher upkeep value over time compared to a standard nuclear warhead.

137 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:17:42pm

If any writer in the world should claim the mantle of Hunter S. Thompson, it should be Charles Pierce.

At the moment, the only thing standing between Mitt Romney, and the Republican nomination that he clearly believes should be is by acclimation, is the fact that most of his party is divided between people who don't like him, and people who want to run him over with a road grader. It is mostly the latter that will be in attendance on Friday. We will see, finally, if there's a depth below which Mitt Romney, friend of thieves, cannot sink.

Go read it all. It's funny and true.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:19:27pm

what is it about Republican columnists and their allergy to treating women like human beings

it's like they haven't been housebroken or something

139 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:20:30pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

what is it about Republican columnists and their allergy to treating women like human beings

it's like they haven't been housebroken or something

"The house better not be broken when I get home if she knows whats good for her!"

140 windsagio  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:20:37pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

what is it about Republican columnists and their allergy to treating women like human beings

it's like they haven't been housebroken or something

Its just revenge. They're still mad about how everything has gone to hell in this country since women started to vote.

141 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:20:50pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

Youtube Video
142 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:22:02pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

what is it about Republican columnists and their allergy to treating women like human beings

it's like they haven't been housebroken or something

Brooks is an elitist chump who thinks he has some sort of special insight into the Great Unwashed.

Truth is, he's an arrogant dickhead.

143 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:22:12pm

An odd twist in the espionage story....
U.S. soldier accused of espionage

While the Daily News said FBI and Army officials would not provide details of the allegations against Millay, military officials told NBC News he allegedly had offered to sell classified information to an undercover police officer because he was upset he had not been deployed to Afghanistan with his unit.

144 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:22:50pm

re: #140 windsagio

Its just revenge. They're still mad about how everything has gone to hell in this country since women started to vote.

What was that line I read: "entitled white men pissed off they only control 97% of everything, except 99% like they're used to"


is this upbringing? "Family values", if you will? Is this what the GOP elite daddies are teaching their very important male heirs?

145 dragonfire1981  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:32:31pm

Herman Cain official theme:

I just tried to have a little fun,
I fought the broads and the broads won,
I fought the broads and the broads won.

Didn't want a scandal but I got one,
I fought the broads and the broads won
I fought the broads and the broads won.

I thought I could beat that Perry guy, and maybe make a run,
Now its about to crash and burn,

I fought the broads and the broads won,
I fought the broads and the broads won.

146 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:33:41pm

Could this be contestant number 4?

In a cryptic comment made at National Journal’s Election 2012 Preview event Tuesday, Mark Block, Herman Cain’s campaign manager, made reference to an incident involving Cain and a receptionist for a radio talk show host.

Asked by panel moderator Beth Reinhard whether he could guarantee that there’s not more information forthcoming about his past, Block began his answer with a blanket denial, followed by what seemed to be a description of an unreported recent incident involving Cain.

“Mr. Cain has never sexually harassed anybody. Period. End of story,” he said. “As the hours go by, it’s interesting that we even hear from a radio talk show host of Iowa that a receptionist thought that Mr. Cain’s comments were inappropriate.”

Edited to add - This one looks fairly recent.

147 wilburs  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:36:43pm

re: #137 makeitstop

Love charlie Pierce

tho James Wolcott and Matt Taibi also have their moments

148 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:38:41pm

re: #145 dragonfire1981

Herman Cain official theme:

I just tried to have a little fun,
I fought the broads and the broads won,
I fought the broads and the broads won.

Didn't want a scandal but I got one,
I fought the broads and the broads won
I fought the broads and the broads won.

I thought I could beat that Perry guy, and maybe make a run,
Now its about to crash and burn,

I fought the broads and the broads won,
I fought the broads and the broads won.

I can tell you one thing;

Jay-Z is off the ipod playlist

149 funky chicken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:45:08pm

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

Among the hard-right, freeper contingent? I have my doubts.

Well, he started his hard right turn in around 2005 or so when he began courting Kathryn Jean Lopez at National Review. She swooned for him in a big way, and her support gained him some fans among the freeper crowd even back then. I think Laura Ingraham likes Mittens too, for some mysterious reason.

150 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:47:41pm

re: #149 funky chicken

Well, he started his hard right turn in around 2005 or so when he began courting Kathryn Jean Lopez at National Review. She swooned for him in a big way, and her support gained him some fans among the freeper crowd even back then. I think Laura Ingraham likes Mittens too, for some mysterious reason.

Ingraham likes mittens because Ingraham is a syndicated radio host who wants a candidate to talk about that she won't be totally mortified by, heh

151 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:54:47pm

re: #146 makeitstop

It's a slow trickle, but it's there.

It did make me realize who it is that Cain, bizarrely, reminds me of:

Image: 320x240.jpg

I can't really explain it.

152 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 2:57:14pm

re: #151 Obdicut

It's a slow trickle, but it's there.

It did make me realize who it is that Cain, bizarrely, reminds me of:

Image: 320x240.jpg

I can't really explain it.

More Romulan if you ask me.

153 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:00:18pm

Cain is a Farengi.
But I can see Kirk too.

154 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:01:54pm

Farengi stages of acquisition:

In addition to the Rules, Ferengi recognize five Stages of Acquisition:[10]

Infatuation: An unreasoning love or attraction … "I want it."
Justification: Moral excuse used to explain … "I must have it!"
Appropriation: To take to one's self in exclusion of others … "IT'S MINE AT LAST!"
Obsession: A compulsive or irrational preoccupation … "My Precious!"
Resale: The action of selling something previously bought … "Make me an offer."

155 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:02:31pm

Well, that was a matter of time:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

156 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:02:52pm

re: #153 OhNoZombies!

Cain is a Farengi.
But I can see Kirk too.

What was that?

157 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:04:21pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh. Gotta love Kirk.

158 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:05:30pm

Just received the USO's 2012 calendar. Jon Stewart is Mr. July.

159 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:07:32pm

re: #157 OhNoZombies!

Heh. Gotta love Kirk.

Ingenuity

160 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:12:40pm

re: #159 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ingenuity

Pic hotlink blocked...

161 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:14:04pm

re: #160 talon_262

Pic hotlink blocked...

KHAAANNN!

162 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:14:44pm

re: #161 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

KHAAANNN!

Fixed...

163 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:15:04pm

Iron Lung (Cain's chief of staff) was just on Fixed News with Brett Baier, and let's just say that this guy is a minor-leaguer at best. They are circling the drain.

164 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:15:50pm

re: #162 talon_262

Fixed...

BTW, I loved it when the MythBusters recreated that scenario in that ST:TOS episode to test...

165 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:16:12pm

Damn I love e-bay sometimes...so after having resolved my cousins problem with not having MS Office on his...err..."newer" computer (you don't want to know, besides it came with Office installed so it is only kinda sorta technically stealing software, I prefer to think of it as restoring the OEM bundled programs that were deleted by a nitwit) I moved on to finding a suitable monitor.

Bingo, a slightly used (only used by the sellers grandmother to visit religious sites on Sundays!) HPvs17 for $35.00 on e-bay, god I love this country sometimes. :)

Beats the shit out of his current 9inch screen that does 800x600, no way I am handing him this fast Nvidia driven machine back and making him squint at his old monitor. It just so happens that I have a spare of that exact HPvs17 monitor here that I can deliver to him along with the computer tomorrow. (Unfortunately this one has a tiny flaw in the LCD matrix that you can barely see right up against the right edge of the screen, ex-girlfriend + thrown beer = tiny flaw, long story).

Want to talk about a perfect win-win?

166 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:18:38pm

re: #165 ausador

Damn I love e-bay sometimes...so after having resolved my cousins problem with not having MS Office on his...err..."newer" computer (you don't want to know, besides it came with Office installed so it is only kinda sorta technically stealing software, I prefer to think of it as restoring the OEM bundled programs that were deleted by a nitwit) I moved on to finding a suitable monitor.

Bingo, a slightly used (only used by the sellers grandmother to visit religious sites on Sundays!) HPvs17 for $35.00 on e-bay, god I love this country sometimes. :)

Beats the shit out of his current 9inch screen that does 800x600, no way I am handing him this fast Nvidia driven machine back and making him squint at his old monitor. It just so happens that I have a spare of that exact HPvs17 monitor here that I can deliver to him along with the computer tomorrow. (Unfortunately this one has a tiny flaw in the LCD matrix that you can barely see right up against the right edge of the screen, ex-girlfriend + thrown beer = tiny flaw, long story).

Want to talk about a perfect win-win?

Cool that you got that all square...

167 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:20:26pm

re: #163 Kid A

Notable that he stopped blaming liberals, though

168 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:22:29pm

re: #167 neilk

Notable that he stopped blaming liberals, though

Well, when you're nearing the last page of the playbook, he eventually had to look in the camera, select soft focus, choke on a heater, blow the smoke out and say "Alright, guys, pull your ripcords!!!"

169 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:23:58pm

GOP congressman promises to hold up Defense budget to illegally discriminate against gays

Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) continues his quest to impose discrimination upon same-sex couples in the military through the Defense Authorization Act. He and 85 of his House colleagues have called upon the Senate to maintain the amendments he and Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-MO) added, which extend the Defense of Marriage Act to prohibit same-sex marriages from being performed by military chaplains or on military bases:

170 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:25:50pm

re: #169 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOP congressman promises to hold up Defense budget to illegally discriminate against gays

That's pathetic but yet not at all surprising.

171 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:29:54pm

Oakland Occupiers Flash Mob Dance Instructional Video

Liveleak Video
172 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:30:37pm

re: #168 Kid A

Well, when you're nearing the last page of the playbook, he eventually had to look in the camera, select soft focus, choke on a heater, blow the smoke out and say "Alright, guys, pull your ripcords!!!"

"And then jump out of the submarine!"

173 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:31:33pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Damn, Another liveleak video embed that won't work. Well, At least I enjoyed it.

174 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:33:13pm

re: #169 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

GOP congressman promises to hold up Defense budget to illegally discriminate against gays

Fuck you, Akin. You're a piece of shit.

175 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:35:01pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Damn, Another liveleak video embed that won't work. Well, At least I enjoyed it.

You could capture it and upload it yourself...

176 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:35:59pm

re: #175 ausador

It's not important. Just some silly song and dance thing for street theater.

177 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:36:15pm

The shit just keeps getting deeper around Mr. 999: Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks.

179 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:38:18pm

re: #177 Charles

The shit just keeps getting deeper around Mr. 999: Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks.

I thought "Show me your corn-hole" was a traditional greeting in Iowa.

180 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:39:46pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

My latest Page:

Turkey: Supreme Court of Appeals rules 13-year-old gang rape victim "consented" to sex with 26 suspects

WTF, Turkey???

What the fuck.......

181 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:40:30pm

re: #177 Charles

The shit just keeps getting deeper around Mr. 999: Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks.

LIBRUHL PLANT!!!

182 Lidane  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:40:30pm

re: #177 Charles

The shit just keeps getting deeper around Mr. 999: Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks.

IT'S ALL A POLITICO HIT PIECE! Eleventy!

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:40:41pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

kmg?

184 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:40:42pm

re: #177 Charles

The shit just keeps getting deeper around Mr. 999: Iowa radio host accuses Herman Cain of 'inappropriate' remarks.

Sheesh but it's a liberal lynching *rolls eyes*.

185 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:41:16pm

re: #177 Charles

The remarks themselves are kind of, umm, weak tea:

“Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’”
Iowa radio host calls Herman Cain’s behavior ‘awkward if not inappropriate’

186 kirkspencer  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:41:59pm

I know I'm late to the party, but really want to get my two cents into this.

I don't think the allegations will do a darn thing to Cain's chances in the Republican race for the nomination.

Of the roughly 75% of Republican voters who want anybody but Romney, how many are of the opinion that the whole issue of sexual harassment complaints are PC gone overboard? My guess is a lot. They'll bring in Thomas v Anita (never mind what was found out later). They'll bring in Clinton. They'll bring in any excuse they can because it isn't really an issue for them.

As support, four words. "Republican War on Women." I'm not sure any political body that's fine with the restrictions on women that are part, parcel, plank, and principle will be concerned that some women are coming out to complain that way back in the day Herman Cain told them they were attractive. (Their interpretation, pardon my sarcasm.)

187 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:42:05pm

re: #185 neilk

The remarks themselves are kind of, umm, weak tea:

It's Iowa.

188 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:42:16pm

I'm waiting for the "Bitch set me up" moment.

189 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:42:16pm

re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar

kmg?

Yeah, stealth down-dinger as soon as I posted my page the other day about the "All-American Muslim" documentary.

190 Lidane  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:43:05pm

re: #182 Lidane

So far, the funniest Freeper quote:


At least we know Obama’s never said anything inappropriate to a woman. Heck, they’ve never even found a woman who ever met him, let alone dated him.

Now men...

You know, because Michelle Obama doesn't exist, and the POTUS isn't a married father of two.

191 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:44:52pm

re: #190 Lidane

So far, the funniest Freeper quote:

You know, because Michelle Obama doesn't exist, and the POTUS isn't a married father of two.

Oh come on Michelle's really a man and George Soros created Sasha and Malia in his Tides ACORN lab.

192 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:45:18pm

re: #185 neilk

The remarks themselves are kind of, umm, weak tea:

Yeah, but read the comments of the on-air talent from the station. Dude sounds pissed.

Deace, who penned an opinion piece critical of Cain earlier this month, told POLITICO in an email that Cain said "awkward" and "inappropriate" things to the staff at his station.

"Like awkward/inappropriate things he's said to two females on my staff, that the fact the guy's wife is never around...that's almost always a warning flag to me," Deace wrote. "But I chose to leave that stuff out [of the opinion piece] and make it about his record and not the personal stuff."

Pressed about what exactly Cain said to the employees of his show, Deace responded by describing how he himself treats his staff.

"Many a man has been done in by the inability to control his urges,” Deace wrote. “I am no different and just as vulnerable as any other man, which is why I put safeguards around me and hold myself accountable to my wife and other men in my life. Especially since I have very talented employees that happen to be women. I go out of my way to treat them like my sisters. For example, I wouldn't tell them or any other woman I am not married to nor related to how pretty she is."

If that guy is representative of Iowa conservatives (and he wouldn't have his radio gig if he wasn't), then Cain may be in for a beating in the caucuses.

193 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:45:19pm

re: #188 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm waiting for the "Bitch set me up" moment.

I always loved that Barry moment. Yeah, Marion, that's what cops do. They set people up and catch you on camera in a fleabag motel smoking crack.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:45:40pm

brb

195 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:47:09pm

re: #190 Lidane

Michelle Obama is hardly a credible source compared to that convicted felon who was arrested at his own press conference.

196 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:48:14pm

re: #192 makeitstop

Well, that guy obviously doesn't like Cain as a candidate, so if Iowa Republicans are like him, he'll lose for that reason.

197 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:49:11pm

Image: imagesizer?file=null-null06E33687-60A4-1EB7-C5BD-13F580B52EC1.jpg
From Rachel Maddow's blog...
XD

198 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:49:50pm

re: #195 neilk

Michelle Obama is hardly a credible source compared to that convicted felon who was arrested at his own press conference.

Ah, Larry. An epic personage. Used to check his blog from time to time.

199 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:49:59pm

And the plot thickens.

If this stuff is true (and I cannot imagine that this many people would be making stuff up) Cain may be one of those disgustingly sneaky sorts who do sexually suggestive things (in word or deed) in ways that can be plausibly denied. The discomfort exists and is real; but many a woman would be hesitant to file any sort of formal or public complaint lest it become a "he said, she said" sort of thing, in which the "he" is the big cheese and will win the day.

This stuff isn't passing the smell test for me. He's done for. I hope.

200 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:52:47pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

"he said, she said"

Not that he ever had a chance, but it's the cover up and the attempts to cover up the cover up that will sink him.

201 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:54:40pm

Tiny 'saber-toothed squirrel' found
O_o

202 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:55:53pm

Yay! Cain's blaming the Perry campaign! It's the drunk versus the lecher versus the boring guy that looks like a dishonest used car salesman.

Herman Cain accused a former consultant to his unsuccessful 2004 Senate campaign, Curt Anderson, of leaking damaging information about past sexual harassment allegations against Cain.

Anderson, who is now an adviser to Rick Perry, denied the charge in an email to POLITICO...

203 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:56:40pm

Mark Block: Rick Perry Needs To Apologize To Herman Cain…And America

The Herman Cain campaign is stepping up its latest line of defense against the sexual harassment story rocking Cain this week.

Rick Perry, Cain chief of staff Mark Block told Fox Wednesday, needs to apologize for the story. To America.

“Rick Perry needs to apologize to Herman Cain and, quite frankly, to America,” Block said.

He was pitching the latest pushback from the Cain campaign on the sexual harassment allegations, which began with “the story is not true” and shifted into “ok it’s pretty true, but it’s not that bad” earlier this week. The new line is that Perry’s campaign is responsible for the story and therefore the story is inherently tainted by dirty politics. Or something like that, anyway. To be honest, it’s hard to see how that’s much of a defense and with the women involved eager to talk about what happened the importance of who’s responsible for the story may not matter much longer.

204 neilk  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:56:50pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

unfortunately, the overwhelming evidence is that people don't really care about this stuff. If I tried to start listing successful pols who have gotten away with what Cain is accused of, or worse, I'd probably exceed the character limit. It's a man's world...

205 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:57:00pm

re: #201 Varek Raith

Tiny 'saber-toothed squirrel' found
O_o

Cute...in a rip your throat out kind of way.
Image: 111102032029-extinct-mammal-story-top.jpg

206 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:57:08pm

re: #197 Varek Raith

Image: imagesizer?file=null-null06E33687-60A4-1EB7-C5BD-13F580B52EC1.jpg
From Rachel Maddow's blog...
XD

AWESOME!!!! That toolbag today said that if you're a Jew living in Israel and don't believe in the Torah or Moses, you have no right to the land. What the fuck??!!

207 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:57:32pm

re: #200 darthstar

Not that he ever had a chance, but it's the cover up and the attempts to cover up the cover up that will sink him.

Part of what will sink him. The original actions are in play as well; without them, there would have been no need for any coverup attempts

208 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:57:38pm

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mark Block: Rick Perry Needs To Apologize To Herman Cain…And America

Rick Perry needs to apologize to Texas first.

209 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:57:42pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

The discomfort exists and is real; but many a woman would be hesitant to file any sort of formal or public complaint lest it become a "he said, she said" sort of thing, in which the "he" is the big cheese and will win the day.

The 'big cheese' attitude is the alpha and omega of Cain's problems. He appears more and more to be one of those corporate types who thinks he's untouchable, that the rules simply do not apply to him. He's a serial harasser who thinks he can wave the charges away by calling them baseless. He reacted to the initial story very badly, and then compounded the problem by trying to bluff through it.

And it's angered the women (and some men) who have witnessed his behavior first-hand, and that's why more people are speaking out. I think you're right - he's done. Whether he realizes it and withdraws from the race or tries to tough it out and wait for the story to die down doesn't matter.

He went from a long-shot candidate to a no-shot candidate in two days. The phrase 'Pride goeth before a fall' rings true here.

210 God of Binders with Women  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:59:24pm

re: #209 makeitstop

Well said. He's appearing here (The Woodlands) with that rat Gingrich on Saturday night, so I guess my "Cain is done on Friday" prediction will have to wait until Monday.

211 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:59:25pm

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mark Block: Rick Perry Needs To Apologize To Herman Cain…And America

"How dare they spread my dirty laundry around? So what if I rolled around in it first, they were wrong for throwing it out there!"

212 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 3:59:42pm

re: #206 Kid A

AWESOME!!! That toolbag today said that if you're a Jew living in Israel and don't believe in the Torah or Moses, you have no right to the land. What the fuck??!!

Coming from a guy who has endorsed the writings of Anti-Semitc tools, that's rich.

213 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:01:07pm

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mark Block: Rick Perry Needs To Apologize To Herman Cain…And America

Accountability! Or maybe distraction. Perry points the finger at Romney!

Image: perromcaintweet.jpg

Bunch of fucking retards...this GOP field. and I don't mean that as an insult to special needs kids with Downs...I'm talking about fucking retards.

214 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:01:27pm

I don't want Rick Perry to apologize to me. Cain's campaign comes across as really pathetic in that. Apologize for revealing that I have a history of not so pleasant behavior! So much for personal responsibility eh Team Cain? It's always someone else's fault.

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:03:05pm

re: #206 Kid A

AWESOME!!! That toolbag today said that if you're a Jew living in Israel and don't believe in the Torah or Moses, you have no right to the land. What the fuck??!!

If he said so, he probably means that the only argument for Israel's existence is religious (which, if accepted, would objectively mean that Israel would have no real right to exist, since religious arguments do not count; thanks, asshole; of course, the existence of Israel does not depend on religious claims).

216 Digital Display  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:03:23pm

I don't think that 3am phone to Cain is what he expected...
No Herman..It's not the Military with plans to Nuke Iran.. It's a civil Lawyer..

217 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:04:56pm

We're headed for a good line of rainstorms within the next hour. I'll be listening for the frogs. I get nervous when I haven't heard them in a while. It's been a few weeks.

218 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:05:53pm

re: #213 darthstar

Accountability! Or maybe distraction. Perry points the finger at Romney!

Image: perromcaintweet.jpg

Bunch of fucking retards...this GOP field. and I don't mean that as an insult to special needs kids with Downs...I'm talking about fucking retards.

Circular firing squad in action.

Not that it matters, though. The accusations are out there, Cain fumbled the response spectacularly, and now he's going to have to answer. The only people who are going to care about this are the wingnuts looking for an excuse as to why this is a "hit job" or some such BS.

219 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:06:10pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

We're headed for a good line of rainstorms within the next hour. I'll be listening for the frogs. I get nervous when I haven't heard them in a while. It's been a few weeks.

Beware of Commie infiltrators among the frogs, tho. Easy to spot. They croak Internationale./

220 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:07:18pm

re: #215 Sergey Romanov

If he said so, he probably means that the only argument for Israel's existence is religious (which, if accepted, would objectively mean that Israel would have no real right to exist, since religious arguments do not count; thanks, asshole; of course, the existence of Israel does not depend on religious claims).

It's exact;y statements like that show me that Beck's no friend o the Jewish people. He'd sell them down the river's stream if religion deemed it.

221 jaunte  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:07:39pm

At least we're taking care of the critically important stuff.

Citing a crisis of national identity and mass confusion among Americans about their nation’s motto, the House on Tuesday voted on a resolution “reaffirming ‘In God We Trust’ as the official motto of the United States.”
...
Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the House majority leader, said earlier this year that he would try to prevent votes on measures that were not “substantive and meaningful.” The House did not vote, for example, on an independent resolution, passed in the Senate this year, to honor the troops who carried out the mission that killed Osama bin Laden.

222 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:08:24pm

re: #221 jaunte

At least we're taking care of the critically important stuff.

*facepalm*

223 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:08:52pm

re: #221 jaunte

At least we're taking care of the critically important stuff.

My state's most powerful Congressional leader is a partisan jackass. Too bad he's not leaving office soon.

224 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:09:08pm

re: #219 Sergey Romanov

Beware of Commie infiltrators among the frogs, tho. Easy to spot. They croak Internationale./

"Ribbitski!"

225 JRCMYP  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:10:27pm

As an independent, I have to say. I never was going to vote for this guy anyway. Or Bachman. Or Perry. Or Newt.

Will I listen to Mitt? Yes because he was once my governor and I actually am going to dig in with him. But Cain? What has this guy ever done for anyone other than Herman Cain? He's no public servant.

226 Lidane  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:10:38pm

As usual, John Cole nails it:

I may be in the minority, but I don’t think Cain’s history of sexual harassment is going to hurt him at all with the GOP, and the insanity of the Republican party will really work to his favor in the short run, at least. Half of them have convinced themselves that this is just a liberal media hit job, and the rest of them think women are property, so I really don’t expect him to lose any support over this. If anything, in the short term, I expect him to gain ground. Wingnuts love crazy shit.

227 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:10:40pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

"Ribbitski!"

You got it. You're safe.

228 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:11:20pm

Herman Cain, Power Nerd

i think a picture is beginning to emerge here

She says the behavior included a private invitation to his corporate apartment.

...

POLITICO has learned that the incident involved a staffer for Steve Deace, an influential conservative talk radio host who hosts a nationally syndicated show in Des Moines. And Deace says he did take offense.

Deace, who penned an opinion piece critical of Cain earlier this month, told POLITICO in an email that Cain said "awkward" and "inappropriate" things to the staff at his station.

"Like awkward/inappropriate things he's said to two females on my staff, that the fact the guy's wife is never around...that's almost always a warning flag to me,"

so let's say you are a Master Of The Universe. and let's say you want to cash in on the exploitation of young women that is so characteristic of High Power Males. and let's say that you keep on trying to cash your High Power Male check, but it keeps bouncing

FRUSTRATED!

229 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:11:37pm

re: #225 JRCMYP

As an independent, I have to say. I never was going to vote for this guy anyway. Or Bachman. Or Perry. Or Newt.

Will I listen to Mitt? Yes because he was once my governor and I actually am going to dig in with him. But Cain? What has this guy ever done for anyone other than Herman Cain? He's no public servant.

What's sad is Cain and his allies think him not being a public servant is a good thing.

230 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:11:53pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

"Ribbitski!"

Shouldn't that be "ribbitskOy?"

231 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:12:40pm

re: #226 Lidane

As usual, John Cole nails it:

Ayep, he's not likely to lose too many friends in the base, but he can kiss his chances in the general goodbye.

232 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:12:49pm

re: #230 C1nnabar

Why?

233 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:13:19pm

re: #226 Lidane

As usual, John Cole nails it:

I agree with his take. The wingnuts are going to take Cain's response to these stories and spin it as him standing up to the "lamestream" media.

234 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:13:20pm

re: #228 engineer dog

, that the fact the guy's wife is never around...that's almost always a warning flag to me,

Women should be on a leash and following their husbands around!

Fucking idiot deserves to be condemned to AM radio.

235 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:13:44pm

re: #232 Sergey Romanov

I like it better end-stressed, and "oy" is anyway my response to all of this.

/

236 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:18:48pm

Thread is dead, long live the thread!

Edit: ...nevermind.

237 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:18:48pm

re: #235 C1nnabar

Croakovich!

238 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:19:16pm

re: #236 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Thread is dead, long live the thread!

No, it just croaked.

239 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:21:17pm

No joy here. Mr Cain had a lot more to give to the party. My party.

240 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:21:28pm

re: #238 Sergey Romanov

No, it just croaked.

Youtube Video
241 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:22:46pm

I'm seeing a lot of people in the 'right-wing' media bring up Clinton.

I'd say it's a perfectly fair point, and ask, then, whether the GOP plans on impeaching Cain immediately upon electing him.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:22:48pm

In Russian "ribbit" is "kva kva".

243 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:23:12pm

Maybe my frogs have run away and joined OWS
[Link: api.ning.com...]

244 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:23:53pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Maybe my frogs have run away and joined OWS
[Link: api.ning.com...]

Or maybe those French-looking suspicious OWS hippies were just hungry and ate your froggies./

245 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:24:55pm

re: #241 Obdicut

I'm seeing a lot of people in the 'right-wing' media bring up Clinton.

I'd say it's a perfectly fair point, and ask, then, whether the GOP plans on impeaching Cain immediately upon electing him.

Why is it that, when a Republican is caught with his pants down, the Right immediately plays the "Clinton card"?

246 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:25:00pm

re: #241 Obdicut

I'm seeing a lot of people in the 'right-wing' media bring up Clinton.

I'd say it's a perfectly fair point, and ask, then, whether the GOP plans on impeaching Cain immediately upon electing him.

It'll be a "liberal plot" that takes Cain out of the White House - if he ever gets in.

247 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:25:04pm

re: #242 Sergey Romanov

In Russian "ribbit" is "kva kva".

Heh. That's one of my favorite travel games; Asking people from different countries what animal sounds are in their language. Greek dogs say "Gauv Gauv".
I always find it interesting.

248 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:25:16pm

re: #243 Killgore Trout

Maybe my frogs have run away and joined OWS
[Link: api.ning.com...]

LOL

249 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:25:54pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

Heh. That's one of my favorite travel games; Asking people from different countries what animal sounds are in their language. Greek dogs say "Gauv Gauv".
I always find it interesting.

Ya, it's fun. In Russian it's almost as in Greek - "gav gav".

250 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:26:19pm

re: #248 albusteve

I almost changed my avatar to that a while back. I still might.

251 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:26:27pm

re: #245 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Why is it that, when a Republican is caught with his pants down, the Right immediately plays the "Clinton card"?

left
right
gimme a break

252 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:26:31pm

re: #242 Sergey Romanov

In Russian "ribbit" is "kva kva".

What do ravens say?

253 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:26:55pm

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I almost changed my avatar to that a while back. I still might.

it's the bomb

254 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:27:02pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

What do ravens say?

"Kar kar".

255 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:29:02pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

What do ravens say?

They say "Whatsup"

Youtube Video
256 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:29:38pm

"Nevermore".

257 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:30:19pm

re: #221 jaunte

At least we're taking care of the critically important stuff.

Which god?

258 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:30:22pm

And now a word from Santorum...

Youtube Video
259 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:31:41pm

re: #258 darthstar

spectacular

260 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:32:03pm

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Which god?

The Elder Gods?

261 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:32:22pm

re: #259 Sergey Romanov

spectacular

Who needs a vuvuzela?

262 windsagio  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:33:58pm

I'm surpised there's no mention of the Whole Foods thing yet hereabouts.

quick version

1) Anarchist types vandalize whole foods during protest
2) Other protesters get mad
3) Fistfights erupt as the other guys try to administer some street justice.
4) ???
5) The recriminations begin.

263 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:33:58pm

re: #261 darthstar

Should be the new GOP mascot.

264 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:34:48pm

re: #258 darthstar

They do that to mark their territory, and to terrify the weak.

265 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:35:47pm

whatever ignatz cat says, i just tell him "that's what i say but nobody ever listens to me"

266 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:36:48pm

re: #213 darthstar

Accountability! Or maybe distraction. Perry points the finger at Romney!

Image: perromcaintweet.jpg

Bunch of fucking retards...this GOP field. and I don't mean that as an insult to special needs kids with Downs...I'm talking about fucking retards.

Image: never_go_full_retard1.jpg
Image: 129011508889548810.jpg

267 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:37:01pm

Gorgeous morning running with the boys...posted this profile pic of the dogs on facebook this morning...just looked at it again and realized Banjo was sporting some wood. Such a good dog...takes after his father.

268 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:37:23pm

re: #256 Decatur Deb

"Nevermore".

269 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:38:58pm

re: #226 Lidane

As usual, John Cole nails it:

Wingnuts love are crazy as shit.

FTFY, Mr. Cole...

270 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:41:42pm

Check out this bad boy that was parked in the boat trailer lot this morning...fuckin' sweet ride. Original paint to, I think.
Image: gremlin.jpg

And check out the sea of crab pots in the background...

271 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:42:00pm

We were warned today would be a red flag day... and sure enough there is smoke in the air. Nothing too serious yet I think, but this time of year is a dangerous one in SoCal.

272 Kragar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:48:23pm

re: #260 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The Elder Gods?

I still suspect Bryan Fischer of Khorne worship

273 darthstar  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:52:17pm

re: #270 darthstar

Check out this bad boy that was parked in the boat trailer lot this morning...fuckin' sweet ride. Original paint totoo, I think.
Image: gremlin.jpg

And check out the sea of crab pots in the background...

Fuck! I was all excited, thinking I had fixed my typo above, and took an extra ten seconds to brag about it and the system told me my ten minutes were up.

274 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:54:52pm

Reason #23,987,548 why we are doomed:

Opposing view: Save the dollar bill

275 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:58:20pm

re: #274 freetoken

Reason #23,987,548 why we are doomed:

Opposing view: Save the dollar bill

Well, having dollar coins make it much more interesting when trying to tip your friendly neighborhood strippers on Friday and Saturday nights...

///channeling Herman Cain

276 Big Joe  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:58:26pm

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

277 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:59:09pm

re: #276 mracb

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

*grabs popcorn*

278 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:59:24pm

re: #276 mracb

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

It's already ugly. Next stop, career-killing.

279 bratwurst  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:59:32pm

re: #274 freetoken

Reason #23,987,548 why we are doomed:

Opposing view: Save the dollar bill

What kind of moron rallies around THAT cause? People who make a living repairing dollar bill feeder devices on vending machines?

280 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:59:57pm

Looks like Rove is working overtime,

281 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:00:55pm

re: #277 talon_262

*grabs popcorn*

my total interest is exactly zero....
but I like popcorn

282 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:01:23pm

re: #276 mracb

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

How credible is this particular source though?

283 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:01:39pm

re: #279 bratwurst

What kind of moron rallies around THAT cause? People who make a living repairing dollar bill feeder devices on vending machines?

That's all I could come up with, or maybe those with a George Washington fetish.

That's it - all the Treasury has to do to win the Washington fetishists is to change the obverse of the dollar coin from showing a woman to showing George Washington!

284 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:02:28pm

Fox News blog recognizes the link between the Georgia nutcase plotters and author Vanderboegh, but does not mention his appearances as Fox resource.
The Fox blog comments are jacked.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

285 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:06:44pm

Yep, it's a socilly conservative male.

re: #276 mracb

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

286 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:07:43pm

re: #284 Decatur Deb

Fox News blog recognizes the link between the Georgia nutcase plotters and author Vanderboegh, but does not mention his appearances as Fox resource.
The Fox blog comments are jacked.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Imagine that...

287 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:12:05pm

somebody's removed the stablizing rods on the wingnut nuclear hate pile and it's melting down

288 Targetpractice  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:14:10pm

re: #276 mracb

Oh man. Cain has long history of sexual harassment. This could get ugly.

And all he ever had to do, when this first got out, was just tell the press "I am aware of past accusations, but due to a non-disclosure agreement, I cannot comment further."

So that's...what? Three front-runners now who've self-destructed?

289 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:14:30pm

A subject on which I've harped for sometime, let me raise again: worldview collapse. In particular that the US has always been dominated by hyper-religious people whose views on everything from government to economics to personal probity are to be dictated by the Bible.

Remember, Cain is (or was) a part-time preacher. The wingnuts running to his defense are trying to avoid another failure of their worldview.

This "In God We Trust" political showmanship - it's an attempt to cover up the collapse of the worldview.

The worship of George Washington - he was one of the few of the inner circle of the "founding fathers" who was outwardly, obviously religious.

And so on.

How I wish we had a national political figure who would address this topic head on.

290 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:16:21pm

Just bribed my son for bringing his English grade back up to a solid B.

With a roll of duct tape.

It's digital camo duct tape, see, and he's a 14 year old boy.

I'll post a picture if anything interesting comes of this.

291 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:19:06pm

re: #290 EmmmieG

Just bribed my son for bringing his English grade back up to a solid B.

With a roll of duct tape.

It's digital camo duct tape, see, and he's a 14 year old boy.

I'll post a picture if anything interesting comes of this.

Assuming you can find him.

292 MittDoesNotCompute  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:23:46pm

re: #291 Decatur Deb

Assuming you can find him.

He'll be like Arnold in Predator, completely hidden except for the whites of his eyes...

293 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:24:40pm

Romney Declared Medically Incapable Of Harassing Women

plastic ken doll crotch shows no signs of wear

294 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:26:03pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

I have to agree. Two 10 year old complaints, but a third makes him smell far stronger. I wonder how many more there are? Kind of like Arnold, lots of little things, but then there's a BIGGIE!

295 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:28:48pm

Romney Operating System Hacked, Liberated From AT&T

website shows mitt running on unitarian, worker's world party, and windows ME

296 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:29:24pm

re: #286 talon_262

This is my favorite comment:

Isn't it amazing that these four guys were snatched in the nick of time, for allegedly planning an attack, from a fictional novel, that the writer of which plainly gave notice that it was a fictional story. And they did it just when the GOVERNMENT was about to be hung out to dry for the GOVERNMENT FUNDED delivery of firearms to the cartels in Mexico, after the murder of a federal officer in the desert proctecting you from those very same cartels and criminals. But now... Oh Geezzzz, the government...
show more

I love how it's all-caps evil GOVERNMENT when it's something he doesn't like, but it's nice soft 'federal' when it's something he does like.

I also like that he points out that a novel depicting a second civil war in the US is fictional.

297 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:33:52pm

Reason #23,987,553 why we are doomed:

North Dakota Sues Minnesota Over Next Generation Anti-Global Warming Law

STATES RIGHTS!!

298 Only The Lurker Knows  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:36:50pm

re: #290 EmmmieG

Well, you could always show him this video.

Youtube Video

Though it doesn't show the actual construction, I am sure you can find some that do.

299 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:41:00pm

re: #219 Sergey Romanov

Beware of Commie infiltrators among the frogs, tho. Easy to spot. They croak Internationale./

Transnational Progs Frogs are the worst.
//

300 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:41:28pm

read until you spot the awesome name

301 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:43:24pm

re: #296 Obdicut

This is my favorite comment:

I love how it's all-caps evil GOVERNMENT when it's something he doesn't like, but it's nice soft 'federal' when it's something he does like.

I also like that he points out that a novel depicting a second civil war in the US is fictional.

This one is from comments to the basic article:
"ralpherus [Moderator] 1 hour ago
never forget people: being polite to a democrat will result in it thinking it can drop by, swindle and steal, and lie and cheat and truly- being polite to a democrat is not only dangerous to your own well being, but it is in fact TREASON, for democrats are the most vile, nasty, cruel, selfish greedy creepy pig slime murderous lethal, EVIL excrement enemy we have ever endured! We all know at least a few.We are even related to the criminally insane hysterical traitor pigs. Remember- THEIR VOTES got us where we are today! Forgive? ARE YOU JOKING?

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
 "

302 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:44:10pm

re: #300 WindUpBird

read until you spot the awesome name

If your last name is Grabenhorst, why would you name your son that?

With a last name like that, a really, really bland first name is called for.

303 jaunte  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:45:55pm

re: #300 WindUpBird

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

304 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:46:07pm

re: #302 EmmmieG

Yeah, something like Richard...

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:46:37pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

Read that comment in a grindhouse trailer announcer voice

EVIL EXCREMENT ENEMIES

HYSTERICAL TRAITOR PIGS

CARRYING ZIPGUNS, NO RESPECT FOR AUTHORITY

GATHERING IN PARKING LOTS SMOKING LEFT-HANDED CIGARETTES

DROPPING BY YOUR HOUSE TO SWINDLE AND STEAL

TAKING YOUR WIVES OFF TO THEIR LAIR

now at your local theater...DEMOCRATS

rated x

306 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:46:55pm

re: #302 EmmmieG

If your last name is Grabenhorst, why would you name your son that?

With a last name like that, a really, really bland first name is called for.

I'm imaging an entire family as drawn by Edward Gorey

307 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:47:21pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

This one is from comments to the basic article:
"ralpherus [Moderator] 1 hour ago
never forget people: being polite to a democrat will result in it thinking it can drop by, swindle and steal, and lie and cheat and truly- being polite to a democrat is not only dangerous to your own well being, but it is in fact TREASON, for democrats are the most vile, nasty, cruel, selfish greedy creepy pig slime murderous lethal, EVIL excrement enemy we have ever endured! We all know at least a few.We are even related to the criminally insane hysterical traitor pigs. Remember- THEIR VOTES got us where we are today! Forgive? ARE YOU JOKING?

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
 "

I love a good ragegasm which is exactly what this is.

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:48:07pm

re: #303 jaunte

I'm changing my last name to Tablelandstratification

309 jaunte  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:48:09pm

"Rift Grabenhorst"

310 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:48:13pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

I love a good ragegasm which is exactly what this is.

I love that he's a moderator.

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:48:57pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

I love a good ragegasm which is exactly what this is.

I love it when a commenter melts down and starts threatening violence and screaming about treason

when it happens to me, an internet angel gets its wings :D

312 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:49:47pm

re: #311 WindUpBird

I love it when a commenter melts down and starts threatening violence and screaming about treason

when it happens to me, an internet angel gets its wings :D

Yep. Seriously what a buncha idiots.

313 Interesting Times  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:50:00pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

for democrats are the most vile, nasty, cruel, selfish greedy creepy pig slime murderous lethal, EVIL excrement enemy we have ever endured! We all know at least a few.We are even related to the criminally insane hysterical traitor pigs. Remember- THEIR VOTES got us where we are today! Forgive? ARE YOU JOKING?

lol projection. IMAX got nothing on this guy :P

(by the way, don't attach any importance to the [moderator] thing - it's just a dumb artifact that shows up when you run foxnation comments through the copypasta machine)

314 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:50:05pm

re: #310 Decatur Deb

I love that he's a moderator.

like an insane asylum from a b-movie where one of the madmen is wearing an orderly's outfit, waving around a broken mop, declaring himself emperor

315 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:51:21pm

re: #313 publicityStunted

lol projection. IMAX got nothing on them :P

(by the way, don't attach any importance to the [moderator] thing - it's just a dumb artifact that shows up when you run foxnation comments through the copypasta machine)

That's a relief.

316 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:52:34pm

Some sort of hippie invasion.
At least 4,000 are at the gates to the Port of Oakland

Protesters have effectively shut down maritime operations at the Port, Director Omar Benjamin said at a media briefing Tuesday, as more than 4,000 people are at the gates.

The crowd stretched several blocks down Middle Harbor Road leading into the port as they begin their attempt to shut down the port for start of the 7 p.m. night shift.

Benjamin pledged that normal port operations would resume, however, and asked protesters to give workers safe passage to their homes.

As they walked the one mile from 14th Street and Broadway, the crowd fanned out for a least a mile, climbed on trucks and chanted. "Whose city is it? Our city!" Police cars are parked on side streets but are keeping a low profile. The march is peaceful so far and no injuries have been reported.

I hope they're friendly.

317 freetoken  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:54:20pm

re: #316 Killgore Trout

Some sort of hippie invasion.

Do they spawn in groups like the salmon?

318 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:55:03pm

re: #317 freetoken

Do they spawn in groups like the salmon?

Group sex! Godless commies!

319 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:55:07pm

re: #316 Killgore Trout

Some sort of hippie invasion.
At least 4,000 are at the gates to the Port of Oakland

Protesters have effectively shut down maritime operations at the Port, Director Omar Benjamin said at a media briefing Tuesday, as more than 4,000 people are at the gates.

I hope they're friendly.

It's OK..They left the trebuchet and ram at camp.

320 albusteve  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 5:58:17pm

re: #316 Killgore Trout

Some sort of hippie invasion.
At least 4,000 are at the gates to the Port of Oakland

Protesters have effectively shut down maritime operations at the Port, Director Omar Benjamin said at a media briefing Tuesday, as more than 4,000 people are at the gates.

I hope they're friendly.

wow...excellent idea!...close a port!

321 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 6:07:45pm

re: #300 WindUpBird

read until you spot the awesome name

Cyrus be grabbin a horse?

322 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 6:09:52pm

re: #320 albusteve

wow...excellent idea!...close a port!

Same idiot with a new excuse to do the same old thing. Antiwar groups used to block the Oakland port with the antiwar marches. Something about Iraq or neocons, I forget.

323 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Nov 4, 2011 6:10:46am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

I love that he's a moderator.

He's not. There's a button to report posts to moderators next to a poster's name. That button has an alt text that says moderator and gets pasted together with the rest when you copypaste a post from there.


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