Onion: GOP Trying to Keep Voting Base Alive Until November
A crucial strategy to winning the White House
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311 comments
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:34:32pm |
The Onion just keeps getting sicker. This is gutter politics at its worse.
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aagcobb Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:35:20pm |
Reminds me I read a comment that the median age of Rush Limbaugh's audience is deceased.
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darthstar Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:36:48pm |
RuPaul Ryan...it was only a matter of time.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:37:16pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:43:58pm |
re: #2 Bubblehead II
The Onion just keeps getting sicker. This is gutter politics at its worse.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:44:34pm |
re: #5 HappyWarrior
Need rum, need rum now.
Good idea. I think I'll throw some rum in with my scotch.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:53:15pm |
re: #6 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Neither. I find using the elderly/infirm as political tools to be offensive. End of line, no further fucking discussion.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Aug 18, 2012 5:53:50pm |
Sweet local gun shop find! A 1960's, never fired - brand new in the box Belgian made Browning take-down semi auto in .22lr. Dad's been pining for one of these as long as I can remember, so I'm getting it for his birthday.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:02:38pm |
re: #9 goddamnedfrank
Sweet local gun shop find! A 1960's, never fired - brand new in the box Belgian made Browning take-down semi auto in .22lr. Dad's been pining for one of these as long as I can remember, so I'm getting it for his birthday.
Good for you.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:09:09pm |
Thought I'd quickly boot up Windows 7 to see what the new headline font looks like over there, but nooooo. Windows wants to do a lengthy update process with a restart first, then wants me to enter a new password. Thank you again, Microsoft, for making computing wonderful.
OK, can I look at that font yet?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:11:18pm |
re: #9 goddamnedfrank
Sweet local gun shop find! A 1960's, never fired - brand new in the box Belgian made Browning take-down semi auto in .22lr. Dad's been pining for one of these as long as I can remember, so I'm getting it for his birthday.
Good for ya! I'm still waiting on a firing pin for my most recent purchase that arrived broken. Can't complain too loud though - it's a Mauser HSc that was brought home by a GI after the German soldier who had bought it on the civilian market (No military proof marks) no longer needed it... Pity it got nickel plated (badly) between then and now but that just makes a cheap shooter for me. Had to sell a couple of guns to pay for it but the nickel made it half the usual rate for a nice 1942 pistol.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:21:16pm |
re: #2 Bubblehead II
The Onion just keeps getting sicker. This is gutter politics at its worse.
I thought it was funny. Check out the text crawl - they also took some pretty good shots at Obama.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:21:17pm |
re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis
Good for ya! I'm still waiting on a firing pin for my most recent purchase that arrived broken. Can't complain too loud though - it's a Mauser HSc that was brought home by a GI after the German soldier who had bought it on the civilian market (No military proof marks) no longer needed it... Pity it got nickel plated (badly) between then and now but that just makes a cheap shooter for me. Had to sell a couple of guns to pay for it but the nickel made it half the usual rate for a nice 1942 pistol.
What is it with GI's nickle plating their bring backs? My local store has a cheap nickle plated Nambu, not conducive to on-camera flash lol. Looks totally Buck Rogers sci fi though.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:24:29pm |
re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis
Good for ya! I'm still waiting on a firing pin for my most recent purchase that arrived broken. Can't complain too loud though - it's a Mauser HSc that was brought home by a GI after the German soldier who had bought it on the civilian market (No military proof marks) no longer needed it... Pity it got nickel plated (badly) between then and now but that just makes a cheap shooter for me. Had to sell a couple of guns to pay for it but the nickel made it half the usual rate for a nice 1942 pistol.
Is it in 0.32 ACP or in .380?
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:25:17pm |
re: #13 Charles Johnson
I thought it was funny. Check out the text crawl - they also took some pretty good shots at Obama.
The children's choir one was good. I liked Ron Paul's advice on raising gas prices "drive off without paying."
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:25:33pm |
re: #13 Charles Johnson
I thought it was funny. Check out the text crawl - they also took some pretty good shots at Obama.
Then our definition of "humor" differs, I found it tasteless and offensive. See my #8.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:27:01pm |
re: #8 Bubblehead II
Neither. I find using the elderly/infirm as political tools to be offensive. End of line, no further fucking discussion.
End of line?
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OMG! BUBBLEHEAD II IS REALLY THE MCP! WHERE'S THE YOUNGER VERSION OF THE DUDE WHEN YOU REALLY NEED HIM?!
//
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:29:01pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
Thought I'd quickly boot up Windows 7 to see what the new headline font looks like over there, but nooooo. Windows wants to do a lengthy update process with a restart first, then wants me to enter a new password. Thank you again, Microsoft, for making computing wonderful.
OK, can I look at that font yet?
Windoz is still trying to catch up to Linux.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:31:57pm |
re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis
Good for ya! I'm still waiting on a firing pin for my most recent purchase that arrived broken. Can't complain too loud though - it's a Mauser HSc that was brought home by a GI after the German soldier who had bought it on the civilian market (No military proof marks) no longer needed it... Pity it got nickel plated (badly) between then and now but that just makes a cheap shooter for me. Had to sell a couple of guns to pay for it but the nickel made it half the usual rate for a nice 1942 pistol.
I have a 60 some year old Cooey .22 that has had the trigger pivot broken off of the barrel. Anyone know if it's possible to find a new trigger and fix the barrel?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:32:49pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
End of line?
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...OMG! BUBBLEHEAD II IS REALLY THE MCP! WHERE'S THE YOUNGER VERSION OF THE DUDE WHEN YOU REALLY NEED HIM?!
//
He made a misstep. Walked in front of the Laser, and didn't make past the light cycles. Shit happens.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:33:15pm |
re: #14 goddamnedfrank
What is it with GI's nickle plating their bring backs? My local store has a cheap nickle plated Nambu, not conducive to on-camera flash lol. Looks totally Buck Rogers sci fi though.
It looks nice but its cartridge is for the birds. The 8mm Nambu round was notorious for its lack of stopping power even before Brig. Gen. SLA "Slam" Marshall issued his famous report on firearms effectiveness in the Korean War. Many South Korean and Chinese officers (and some NCOs) were armed with Nambu pistols. The 8mm round did not do well against heavily clad men.
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engineer cat Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:35:24pm |
GOP Trying To Keep
how long has it been since they registered baseline brain functionalty?
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:39:53pm |
re: #23 engineer cat
GOP Trying To Keep
how long has it been since they registered baseline brain functionalty?
Whose baseline, the average American's or an imaginary friend's?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:40:12pm |
re: #23 engineer cat
GOP Trying To Keep
how long has it been since they registered baseline brain functionality?
About 4 years. It keeps declining. It should hit zero in November.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:42:54pm |
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
.32 ACP as they didn't make it in .380 until the second production run in the '60's. That's ok for me, I like that chambering and the .380 ones were less reliable (more recoil than it was really designed for).
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:44:29pm |
Hank Williams Jr.: Obama Is 'A Muslim President Who Hates Farming, Hates The Military, Hates The U... huff.to/QcEWxJ via @huffpostent— Larry (@expedience2) August 19, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:45:02pm |
re: #26 William Barnett-Lewis
.32 ACP as they didn't make it in .380 until the second production run in the '60's. That's ok for me, I like that chambering and the .380 ones were less reliable (more recoil than it was really designed for).
Cool. It's a decent caliber for CCW and home defense and they were properly made. It should give you good service.
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:45:35pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:46:41pm |
re: #14 goddamnedfrank
What is it with GI's nickle plating their bring backs? My local store has a cheap nickle plated Nambu, not conducive to on-camera flash lol. Looks totally Buck Rogers sci fi though.
Oy! At least that one's nickel is intact. The nickle on the Mauser is flaking in spots and over thick in others. At that price, though, I'd be sore tempted to snag & restore that Nambu. As for the Mauser, I'm thinking of stripping the nickel and parkerizing it to use as a EDC carry piece.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:47:18pm |
re: #27 Gus
@expedience2 Hank Williams Jr, Rage Against the Machine: Paul Ryan's got some serious nutbars on his play list, doesn't he?
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) August 19, 2012
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:47:51pm |
Charles. My font option functions are freaking out here. Or should I read above?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:48:03pm |
re: #20 b_sharp
I have a 60 some year old Cooey .22 that has had the trigger pivot broken off of the barrel. Anyone know if it's possible to find a new trigger and fix the barrel?
Parts might be available at Numrich (gunparts.com). If so, any competent gunsmith can handle it.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:48:36pm |
re: #29 Interesting Times
Is it supposed to be this tall and skinny?
Pretty much - it's the Ric Ocasek of headline fonts.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:49:00pm |
re: #31 Dark_Falcon
[Embedded content]
I see. So what Tom Morello said is equal to what Hank Williams Jr. said.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:50:02pm |
re: #35 Gus
I see. So what Tom Morello said is equal to what Hank Williams Jr. said.
The MBF is so pretty.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:50:17pm |
re: #27 Gus
[Embedded content]
Someone's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. YEah he hates the US so much and military too. What a load.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:50:31pm |
re: #35 Gus
I see. So what Tom Morello said is equal to what Hank Williams Jr. said.
No. They're both nutbars, but within that description there are degrees of Bad Craziness.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:51:24pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
No. They're both nutbars, but within that description there are degrees of Bad Craziness.
Hmm. OK. Don't have to like Tom Morello I reckon.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:51:26pm |
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:52:06pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
Thought I'd quickly boot up Windows 7 to see what the new headline font looks like over there, but nooooo. Windows wants to do a lengthy update process with a restart first, then wants me to enter a new password. Thank you again, Microsoft, for making computing wonderful.
OK, can I look at that font yet?
Apple is guilty of this too.
I couldn't help but shake my head as my wife tried to transfer some songs off an Ipod before it was reset so the music wasn't lost (she was using a different computer than the one the music was originally downloaded from).
First she had to upgrade Itunes, then she had to register a new Apple ID account, then she had to sync the Ipod, then she tried to transfer the music, but got an error because apparently Apple only allows you to "register" devices to 5 different computers. After that, you're SOL no matter what.
Meanwhile all I have to do is connect my Android phone to any computer which will read it as a jump drive and I can instantly transfer any music, songs or videos I please without the need for any additional software. I can also save said files to a memory card that can be easily swapped if need be.
Why pay more for added frustration?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:52:24pm |
re: #36 b_sharp
The MBF is so pretty.
I haven't liked her ever since she refused to use her life force refill power on me when was hard pressed by Gannon's minions.
/Legend of Zelda gag
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:55:18pm |
re: #39 Gus
Hmm. OK. Don't have to like Tom Morello I reckon.
I tend to prefer Green Day. they're still very liberal, but not as consistently loud all the time and not as aggressively angry. What RAtM puts out is as nutty as what Hank Williams Jr. says, but both have a very angry tone that I find off-putting.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:55:53pm |
re: #30 William Barnett-Lewis
Oy! At least that one's nickel is intact. The nickle on the Mauser is flaking in spots and over thick in others. At that price, though, I'd be sore tempted to snag & restore that Nambu. As for the Mauser, I'm thinking of stripping the nickel and parkerizing it to use as a EDC carry piece.
I got the S&W model 60 no dash for that price, much better deal I think. Can't pick it up until the 28th though because consignment handguns here have to live in the store for 30 days.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:56:51pm |
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
I tend to prefer Green Day. they're still very liberal, but not as consistently loud all the time and not as aggressively angry. What RAtM puts out is as nutty as what Hank Williams Jr. says, but both have a very angry tone that I find off-putting.
This isn't about lyrics.
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Digital Display Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:57:11pm |
Greetings from the Ozarks..Winston and I arrive back in Oklahoma Sunday afternoon from a 2+ Week road trip. Road trips can be really over rated sometimes..I'm over it tonight...
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:57:16pm |
Paul Ryan: "My 78-year-old mom relies on #Medicare. Under my plan, she's protected. Your 54-year-old mom can fuck off"— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) August 18, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:57:31pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:59:43pm |
re: #3 aagcobb
Reminds me I read a comment that the median age of Rush Limbaugh's audience is deceased.
Mathematically, this means that half the people listening to Limbaugh are ghosts.
How do they measure that?
Math stickler, here.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 6:59:58pm |
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
What is it about, then?
The statement came near the end of a concert at the Iowa State Fair Grandstand. Williams Jr.'s comments were first reported in a review by Des Moines Register reporter Joe Lawler.
According to Lawler, the show was relatively free of politics until the end, when Williams Jr. made the following claims:
"We've got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!"
The comments were apparently met with applause and loud cheers.
He's talking about the Commander-in-Chief. The President of the United States of America.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:02:26pm |
re: #42 dragonfire1981
I change all my AAC files to MP3. After that, no hassles from iTunes on the Macs or Rhythmbox on Xubuntu. It's not so much Apple as the compromises Apple was willing to make to get the [censored] record companies on board with iTunes.
Gotta admit, it's been fun turning a 10 year old Dell into a useful machine with 2 gigs of ram, a 120 gb disk (bios limit. Sigh) & a copy of Xubuntu 12.04. Just need to get a second 120 for the media bay so I can get all my music on this machine before my Macbook gives up the ghost.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:02:46pm |
re: #51 Gus
The statement came near the end of a concert at the Iowa State Fair Grandstand. Williams Jr.'s comments were first reported in a review by Des Moines Register reporter Joe Lawler.
According to Lawler, the show was relatively free of politics until the end, when Williams Jr. made the following claims:
"We've got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!"
The comments were apparently met with applause and loud cheers.
He's talking about the Commander-in-Chief. The President of the United States of America.
I know, and I don't like it. Rage Against the Machine has said and sung nothing as dishonest and outright mendacious as the words Hank Williams Jr. said in Iowa. He is a hater and a liar.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:03:12pm |
Next time, Hank Williams Jr. should wear his white outfit. The one made of white sheets with a pointy hood. #p2 #tlot #Obama— Gus (@Gus_802) August 19, 2012
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:03:45pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
I know, and I don't like it. Rage Against the Machine has said and sung nothing as dishonest and outright mendacious as the words Hank Williams Jr. said in Iowa. He is a hater and a liar.
Cool beans then.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:04:14pm |
re: #44 Dark_Falcon
I tend to prefer Green Day. they're still very liberal, but not as consistently loud all the time and not as aggressively angry. What RAtM puts out is as nutty as what Hank Williams Jr. says, but both have a very angry tone that I find off-putting.
I liked the Green Day duet that they did with U2 about Hurricane Katrina, although someone needed to explain to the maker of the video how physics work.
You can't have jets fly over the city of New Orleans dropping crates of supplies because of the law of inertia. An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force, and air resistance would be insufficient to lower the forward velocity of the crates down to where they wouldn't be either deadly, or splinters.
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:06:43pm |
LIMITED TIME ONLY!!Introducing the best music of the Grand Ole Party in one outstanding collection, this is....REPUBLICAN ROCK!
These songs will get you hating Obama and fearing for the destruction of the country in no time!
REPUBLICAN ROCK includes the following songs:
You're so bad, you make Hitler look good - Hank Williams Jr.
Take your socialism and shove it - Rage Against the Machine
Country Boys/Ballad of the WASPS - Aaron Lewis
I don't like Black Presidents - Ted Nugent
He came from Kenya (and don't you forget it!) - Megadeth
Retroactive and Dangerous - Hank Williams Jr. f/ Mitt Romney
Last Days of Liberalism/Victory Day (medley) - Rage Against the Machine
Democrats killed the media star (The Fox News Anthem) - Ted Nugent
REPUBLICAN ROCK - AVAILABLE NOW FOR ONLY $9.99!!
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Mocking Jay Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:06:46pm |
re: #57 HappyWarrior
Hates farming? Okay, Hank.
I can honestly say that I have no opinion, positive or negative, concerning the act of farming.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:06:54pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
I know, and I don't like it. Rage Against the Machine has said and sung nothing as dishonest and outright mendacious as the words Hank Williams Jr. said in Iowa. He is a hater and a liar.
Are you saying that the Devil didn't go down to Georgia?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:07:31pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
I know, and I don't like it. Rage Against the Machine has said and sung nothing as dishonest and outright mendacious as the words Hank Williams Jr. said in Iowa. He is a hater and a liar.
Pity his daddy didn't live longer. I've always thought he was shy a few spankings in his upbringing.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:07:35pm |
Re: Green Day, I like their earlier stuff more than their recent stuff. Dookie > American Idiot IMO at least.
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:07:57pm |
re: #51 Gus
The statement came near the end of a concert at the Iowa State Fair Grandstand. Williams Jr.'s comments were first reported in a review by Des Moines Register reporter Joe Lawler.
According to Lawler, the show was relatively free of politics until the end, when Williams Jr. made the following claims:
"We've got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!"
The comments were apparently met with applause and loud cheers.
He's talking about the Commander-in-Chief. The BLACK President of the United States of America.
Edited to include possible explanation for the animosity.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:08:05pm |
re: #27 Gus
From the article (my emphasis):
"We've got a President that does a call to the Koran or Mecca or whatever," he told the magazine. When asked if he believed Obama hated America, Williams Jr. responded, "I don't know about that but it's kind of obvious. I guess when you take a tour, a world tour, to apologize for America."
A call to the Koran or Mecca? You don't know, but it's obvious?
LOL, looks like Hank Junior's daddy nicknamed him well. His bio on Wikipedia says he's also known as Bocephus, so I dug a little further and found this:
Rod Brasfield was an American comedian who was prominently featured on the Grand Ole Opry from 1947 until his death in 1958. [...]
...Brasfield sometimes did ventriloquist routines with a dummy named Bocephus, after whom Hank Williams nicknamed his then-infant son Hank Williams, Jr. [...]
I think I'll make that my new code name for any ignorant knuckle-dragger that parrots stupid wingnut talking points.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:08:30pm |
re: #58 dragonfire1981
These songs will get you hating Obama and fearing for the destruction of the country in no time!
REPUBLICAN ROCK includes the following songs:
You're so bad, you make Hitler look good - Hank Williams Jr.
Take your socialism and shove it - Rage Against the Machine
Country Boys/Ballad of the WASPS - Aaron Lewis
I don't like Black Presidents - Ted Nugent
He came from Kenya (and don't you forget it!) - Megadeth
Retroactive and Dangerous - Hank Williams Jr. f/ Mitt Romney
Last Days of Liberalism/Victory Day (medley) - Rage Against the Machine
Democrats killed the media star (The Fox News Anthem) - Ted NugentREPUBLICAN ROCK - AVAILABLE NOW FOR ONLY $9.99!!
You're forgetting that classic Bocephus cut, If the South Woulda Won (no black people mentioned).
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:08:52pm |
Damn, The Stalker that bogs that gave me much so much fun can only come up with this.
GOP elite preparing to backstab the Romney-Ryan ticket
Rodent.. Excuse me, was it, Rodent?? I forget. Either way, Is your party already conceding the election?
Sorry Charles for the direct lin.k
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:09:45pm |
re: #60 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Are you saying that the Devil didn't go down to Georgia?
No, its just that the Charlie Daniels version should be preferred:
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:10:18pm |
re: #64 CuriousLurker
From the article (my emphasis):
A call to the Koran or Mecca? You don't know, but it's obvious?
LOL, looks like Hank Junior's daddy nicknamed him well. His bio on Wikipedia says he's also known as Bocephus, so I dug a little further and found this:
I think I'll make that my new code name for any ignorant knuckle-dragger that parrots stupid wingnut talking points.
He's probably one of these idiots who fancies himself an "ISlam expert" despite knowing as much about Islam as he does about the president.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:11:02pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
No, its just that the Charlie Daniels version should be preferred:
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That's one of my favorite country songs (there aren't many).
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:12:41pm |
re: #66 Bubblehead II
It was indeed Rodan AKA Daedalus AKA Dorkus who wrote that crazed column. He is a seriously messed up person, not representative of anyone but his own hater blog.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:12:52pm |
re: #52 William Barnett-Lewis
I change all my AAC files to MP3. After that, no hassles from iTunes on the Macs or Rhythmbox on Xubuntu. It's not so much Apple as the compromises Apple was willing to make to get the [censored] record companies on board with iTunes.
Gotta admit, it's been fun turning a 10 year old Dell into a useful machine with 2 gigs of ram, a 120 gb disk (bios limit. Sigh) & a copy of Xubuntu 12.04. Just need to get a second 120 for the media bay so I can get all my music on this machine before my Macbook gives up the ghost.
How's Xfce working for you?
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:13:19pm |
re: #64 CuriousLurker
From the article (my emphasis):
A call to the Koran or Mecca? You don't know, but it's obvious?
LOL, looks like Hank Junior's daddy nicknamed him well. His bio on Wikipedia says he's also known as Bocephus, so I dug a little further and found this:
I think I'll make that my new code name for any ignorant knuckle-dragger that parrots stupid wingnut talking points.
Patriot! He's an idiot. And the fact that the crowd roared in approval is disgusting. This is shameful.
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:14:16pm |
re: #56 Mostly sane, most of the time.
I liked the Green Day duet that they did with U2 about Hurricane Katrina, although someone needed to explain to the maker of the video how physics work.
You can't have jets fly over the city of New Orleans dropping crates of supplies because of the law of inertia. An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force, and air resistance would be insufficient to lower the forward velocity of the crates down to where they wouldn't be either deadly, or splinters.
WKRP already tried that with turkeys.
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Mocking Jay Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:14:30pm |
re: #66 Bubblehead II
The Republican convention hasn’t occurred yet, but the GOP elites are already preparing sabotage.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:16:40pm |
re: #69 CuriousLurker
That's one of my favorite country songs (there aren't many).
Hank Sr., Loretta Lynn, Patsy Cline, Glenn Campbell, Tom T. Hall, Willie Nelson, maybe a couple of others. I grew up hearing it but there's very little of it worth actually listening to.
I was humorously surprised the other day to realize I have more hip-hop acts in my music library than I do country acts... ;)
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:17:52pm |
re: #69 CuriousLurker
That's one of my favorite country songs (there aren't many).
I've got a Hank Williams Sr. CD. Got that for a reason. His son is an asshole.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:18:22pm |
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
It was indeed Rodan AKA Daedalus AKA Dorkus who wrote that crazed column. He is a seriously messed up person, not representative of anyone but his own hater blog.
Pardon me... but as far as I'm concerned, the people who've been associating with Rodan are every bit as responsible for the hatred they spread as Rick Martinez is. Nobody forced those people to get in bed with that deranged freak.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:18:43pm |
re: #71 b_sharp
How's Xfce working for you?
I like it. It mostly stays out of the way. Bit more bloated than my absolute favorite, Open Look, but the integration makes up for that.
Had to whack the notification server for sanity though. Yeash...
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b_sharp Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:20:21pm |
re: #78 William Barnett-Lewis
I like it. It mostly stays out of the way. Bit more bloated than my absolute favorite, Open Look, but the integration makes up for that.
Had to whack the notification server for sanity though. Yeash...
I have yet to find a notification manager that isn't annoying out of the box.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:21:12pm |
re: #77 Charles Johnson
Pardon me... but as far as I'm concerned, the people who've been associating with Rodan are every bit as responsible for the hatred they spread as Rick Martinez is. Nobody forced those people to get in bed with that deranged freak.
I can agree with that.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:21:56pm |
Gosh though I remember Hank's whiny act after he got kicked off Monday Night Football because ESPN didn't like the things he said. He cried about how it was oppressive and this was proof that we were now living in the USSR. Funny, I didn't hear anything from him when the Dixie Chicks were derided by people like him for saying for more mild things about President Bush. Saying you're ashamed to share a state is far more mild than the crap Williams II says about Obama.
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Digital Display Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:24:52pm |
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:24:59pm |
re: #75 William Barnett-Lewis
Hank Sr., Loretta Lynn, Patsy Cline, Glenn Campbell, Tom T. Hall, Willie Nelson, maybe a couple of others. I grew up hearing it but there's very little of it worth actually listening to.
I was humorously surprised the other day to realize I have more hip-hop acts in my music library than I do country acts... ;)
Yeah, I grew up with country music all around me, but most of it. Ugh. The other day I got into a taxi and the Haitian driver was listening to country music, one of those God-awful mawkish numbers about "daddy". With a few exceptions, most of the stuff I like is pretty old as I only hear new stuff by accident.1
____
1. Dare I admit that I actually kinda liked "Achy Breaky Heart"? *hangs head in shame.*
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:26:00pm |
So I was wondering...
If the GOP slashes medical care and raises health costs to seniors, which is exactly what the Ryan plan does, how will they keep the aged, fearful/white/uneducated demographic alive until November?
Ohhh... until then, they will have un-sequestered Obamacare.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:26:15pm |
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:26:43pm |
re: #85 CuriousLurker
Yeah, I grew up with country music all around me, but most of it. Ugh. The other day I got into a taxi and the Haitian driver was listening to country music, one of those God-awful mawkish numbers about "daddy". With a few exceptions, most of the stuff I like is pretty old as I only hear new stuff by accident.1
____
1. Dare I admit that I actually kinda liked "Achy Breaky Heart"? *hangs head in shame.*
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:26:50pm |
re: #85 CuriousLurker
Country music comes from the country - just not my country.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:27:08pm |
re: #83 LudwigVanQuixote
Greetings!
Right on time, Ludwig. Bubblehead II, Charles and I were just giving Dorkus the verbal beatdown his latest bits of insanity merit. Dorkus had a post on Thursday comparing Barack Obama to Caligula, if you can believe that. The very idea of such a comparison is stark raving mad.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:27:19pm |
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:27:43pm |
re: #85 CuriousLurker
Yeah, I grew up with country music all around me, but most of it. Ugh. The other day I got into a taxi and the Haitian driver was listening to country music, one of those God-awful mawkish numbers about "daddy". With a few exceptions, most of the stuff I like is pretty old as I only hear new stuff by accident.1
____
1. Dare I admit that I actually kinda liked "Achy Breaky Heart"? *hangs head in shame.*
Get out of here.
Achy Breaky Heart.
You should be banned for that. Joking aside, I kind of like the so called outlaw country genre that got popular in the 70's. My Dad's a big Townes Van Zandt fan. I like what I've heard of Steve Earle too. They played Galway Girl all the time when I studied over there. From what I understand, he's big over there. I like the more rock country too. Really like Gram Parsons. Again another person I was raised on.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:28:15pm |
You could write an entire PhD thesis on the significance of the screen door in country music.
For example, if the screen door slams, it isn't that someone's gone to get the mail or or is letting the dog out. Oh, no. If the screen door gets slammed, you just got left.
Nobody gets dumped by text in that world.
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Digital Display Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:28:32pm |
re: #87 LudwigVanQuixote
Hey buddy...
I was thinking the other day..Sure miss Ludwig here..We would talk Chess, Science and politics..
Hope today finds you well
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:29:26pm |
Can't get this song out of my head and it still amazes me that these two are only 21 and 18. Got to see them live in DC back in March.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:32:54pm |
re: #88 Gus
[Embedded content]
Nice. I once asked a country music band member what the difference was between a violin and a fiddle.
His answer: You keep a violin in a case; you keep a fiddle in a paper bag.
;)
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:32:54pm |
re: #54 Gus
(Hank's fancy white outfit)
The Man in Black - Johnny Cash
Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone?
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there oughtta be a Man In Black.I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believin' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believin' that we all were on their side.Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black.
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:34:03pm |
re: #98 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
The Man in Black - Johnny Cash
The man who who everyone should point to if you hear "Country's lame." Cash ruled. End of story.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:34:06pm |
re: #94 Mostly sane, most of the time.
You could write an entire PhD thesis on the significance of the screen door in country music.
For example, if the screen door slams, it isn't that someone's gone to get the mail or or is letting the dog out. Oh, no. If the screen door gets slammed, you just got left.
Nobody gets dumped by text in that world.
I'd never get that bit - to me if I hear "the screen door slams" my brain is going to fill in "Mary's dress waves" from "Thunder Road" automatically as I've spent far too much time listening to the Born To Run album over the years.
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Digital Display Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:34:17pm |
re: #91 LudwigVanQuixote
So how is it going?
Life continues.. My Dad passed this year.. Very painful.
I inherited property and a lot of money. I'm never going to work again and bought a place in the middle of fucking nowhere. Moving soon.
How is Ms S.?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:35:24pm |
Hello my friends.
It's Saturday night
Sipping Tito's by the pool, and listening to this...
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:36:25pm |
re: #97 CuriousLurker
Nice. I once asked a country music band member what the difference was between a violin and a fiddle.
His answer: You keep a violin in a case; you keep a fiddle in a paper bag.
;)
Happy Eid Mubarak! I see it's trending. ;)
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:36:54pm |
re: #98 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
The Man in Black - Johnny Cash
In a similar but more religious vein from Cash we have this:
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:36:55pm |
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
It was indeed Rodan AKA Daedalus AKA Dorkus who wrote that crazed column. He is a seriously messed up person, not representative of anyone but his own hater blog.
And those those who follow him, And it seems he has some.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:37:49pm |
re: #103 Gus
Happy Eid Mubarak! I see it's trending. ;)
Thanks! Hiatus is over now, I'm ready to rumble. ;)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:37:49pm |
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
Right on time, Ludwig. Bubblehead II, Charles and I were just giving Dorkus the verbal beatdown his latest bits of insanity merit. Dorkus had a post on Thursday comparing Barack Obama to Caligula, if you can believe that. The very idea of such a comparison is stark raving mad.
OK let me get this straight...
A drunken pervert who constantly goes on about his "Precious Latin Blood" and his "Roman lineage" while alternately denying and revelling in Serbian war atrocities - is comparing someone to Caligula as a negative???
Your would think the Rodent would totally dig on Caligula.
Caligula's blood was certainly Latin and of Roman origin. He loved to drink to excess and he really loved violence.
Caligula was very much in a GOP leadership mold. McCain chose Palin as VP, Caligula made his horse into a senator. The GOP wants to crush democracy, funnel money to the upper class, and raise funds by taxing the middle class into destitution. Caligula not only crushed democracy and raised funds by taxing the middle class into destitution but he made the wives of the senators and the vestal virgins into prostitutes (and funnelled the money to himself!) As Romney would point out, it was perfectly legal for him to do!
You would think the Rodent would love Caligula.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:38:13pm |
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
Ohh and where is this little takedown of the rodent?
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:38:35pm |
re: #106 CuriousLurker
Thanks! Hiatus is over now, I'm ready to rumble. ;)
Who will be the first to get into the cage match! Lets! Get! Ready TO RUMMMMBLEEEE!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:39:54pm |
re: #17 Bubblehead II
Then our definition of "humor" differs, I found it tasteless and offensive. See my #8.
The Onion's kind of hit or miss sometimes.
They did a recent 9/11 based gag I thought was extra tacky.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:40:17pm |
re: #101 Digital Display
Life continues.. My Dad passed this year.. Very painful.
I inherited property and a lot of money. I'm never going to work again and bought a place in the middle of fucking nowhere. Moving soon.
How is Ms S.?
1. I am so sorry to hear about your father's death.
2. Miss S is very soon to be Mrs.Ludwig.
Wedding planning takes a large amount of my free time.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:41:21pm |
re: #108 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohh and where is this little takedown of the rodent?
re: #66 Bubblehead II
Damn, The Stalker that bogs that gave me much so much fun can only come up with this.
GOP elite preparing to backstab the Romney-Ryan ticket
Rodent.. Excuse me, was it, Rodent?? I forget. Either way, Is your party already conceding the election?
Sorry Charles for the direct lin.k
re: #70 Dark_Falcon
It was indeed Rodan AKA Daedalus AKA Dorkus who wrote that crazed column. He is a seriously messed up person, not representative of anyone but his own hater blog.
re: #77 Charles Johnson
Pardon me... but as far as I'm concerned, the people who've been associating with Rodan are every bit as responsible for the hatred they spread as Rick Martinez is. Nobody forced those people to get in bed with that deranged freak.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:42:38pm |
Time to get my boy to bed. I may get back to here tonight, but if not, have a good evening folks.
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freetoken Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:42:49pm |
Those oh so thoughtful "conservatives":
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:43:17pm |
re: #73 b_sharp
WKRP already tried that with turkeys.
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:44:16pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
2. Miss S is very soon to be Mrs.Ludwig.
.
Congratulations. I wish you both a long and happy life together.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:45:05pm |
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:46:05pm |
re: #114 freetoken
Those oh so thoughtful "conservatives":
That's a very feudal and backwards way of looking at things. Here's some advice. How about we encourage the value of hard work rather than attacking the poor because someone's got psychological problems when it comes to those less well off than them.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:46:29pm |
That their great-great-granddaddies might have been monkeys. #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) August 19, 2012
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:46:50pm |
Night Lizards. Been interesting. Sleep well. My rock is warm, I hope yours is as well.
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Digital Display Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:47:02pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
1. I am so sorry to hear about your father's death.
2. Miss S is very soon to be Mrs.Ludwig.
Wedding planning takes a large amount of my free time.
Best wishes!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:47:15pm |
re: #107 LudwigVanQuixote
OK let me get this straight...
A drunken pervert who constantly goes on about his "Precious Latin Blood" and his "Roman lineage" while alternately denying and revelling in Serbian war atrocities - is comparing someone to Caligula as a negative?
Your would think the Rodent would totally dig on Caligula.
Caligula's blood was certainly Latin and of Roman origin. He loved to drink to excess and he really loved violence.
Caligula was very much in a GOP leadership mold. McCain chose Palin as VP, Caligula made his horse into a senator. The GOP wants to crush democracy, funnel money to the upper class, and raise funds by taxing the middle class into destitution. Caligula not only crushed democracy and raised funds by taxing the middle class into destitution but he made the wives of the senators and the vestal virgins into prostitutes (and funnelled the money to himself!) As Romney would point out, it was perfectly legal for him to do!
You would think the Rodent would love Caligula.
One difference I would point out is that Caligula tried members of the upper class on spurious charges so he could steal their estates. He was also well likes by the poor and the slaves, in large part because he had freed so many slaves in the first few months of his reign.
And History Today (whose article Dorkus annotes to spew his hate) is correct when it points out that the story of Caligula trying to make his horse a Senator was untrue.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:47:48pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
1. I am so sorry to hear about your father's death.
2. Miss S is very soon to be Mrs.Ludwig.
Wedding planning takes a large amount of my free time.
MAZAL TOV!
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:48:19pm |
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:48:23pm |
re: #111 LudwigVanQuixote
I thought of you last weekend when I was watching a bunch of Neil DeGrasse Tyson videos. He explains stuff really well, and he makes it fun because it's so obvious that he loves his work, and even after so many years doing it—and despite his fame—he's still fascinated & humbled by the awesomeness of the universe.
I mean, like I know he's an atheist, but he's not nasty about it and his passion for learning & discovery is sort of his religion. Plus he sounds like a fiery Sunday preacher (but in a good way) once he gets going. ;)
We need more like him. Lots more.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:50:22pm |
re: #114 freetoken
Those oh so thoughtful "conservatives":
From the article:
“What a shame that we’ve erased shame from society...Why can’t we make someone feel embarrassed for living off of others?"
I couldn't agree more.
Let's look at the typical corporate/wall street like Republican. Take Romney as an example.
He inherited his money and influence. He makes his money - based on moving money around, not by producing anything. The people who actually work, he lives off of and gets most of the fruits of their labors.
He then thinks this is the natural order of things and that he is superior, as if he ever made a damn thing, discovered a new thing, or been anything other than a fortunate parasite in his entire life. He cares nothing for the ones who do the work. Hell he "likes firing them."
This sort of arrogant hubris and "perfectly legal" theft, that denies all compassion or even credit to the ones who actually have to work, is exactly the sort of thing that Jesus was talking about when he said the wealthy will have a tough time getting into heaven.
And these types sure do talk a lot about Jesus - is that not right Bishop Romney?
“What a shame that we’ve erased shame from society...Why can’t we make someone feel embarrassed for living off of others?"
I couldn't agree more.
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:51:02pm |
re: #2 Bubblehead II
The Onion just keeps getting sicker. This is gutter politics at its worse.
Lol.
;)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:51:09pm |
re: #116 calochortus
Congratulations. I wish you both a long and happy life together.
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much I love her. She found her dress today!
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:53:14pm |
Women who get uppity. #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) August 19, 2012
Minorities who get uppity. #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) August 19, 2012
Presidents who get uppity. #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) August 19, 2012
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:54:16pm |
re: #125 CuriousLurker
I thought of you last weekend when I was watching a bunch of Neil DeGrasse Tyson videos. He explains stuff really well, and he makes it fun because it's so obvious that he loves his work, and even after so many years doing it—and despite his fame—he's still fascinated & humbled by the awesomeness of the universe.
I mean, like I know he's an atheist, but he's not nasty about it and his passion for learning & discovery is sort of his religion. Plus he sounds like a fiery Sunday preacher (but in a good way) once he gets going. ;)
We need more like him. Lots more.
Comparing me to Neil is very, very kind. He is a great guy and a passionate educator. I respect him a lot - even if I still like Pluto as a planet.
Thank you!
And yes, I've met him enough times to call him Neil.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:54:29pm |
re: #128 LudwigVanQuixote
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much I love her. She found her dress today!
I am so excited for you!
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jaunte Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:54:49pm |
Paul Ryan's idol is Ayn Rand, who called poor people 'lice' and 'parasites.' She's like Nietzche without all the warmth.
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) August 18, 2012
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:54:51pm |
re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote
Comparing me to Neil is very, very kind. He is a great guy and a passionate educator. I respect him a lot - even if I still like Pluto as a planet.
Thank you!
And yes, I've met him enough times to call him Neil.
PLUTO IS NOT A PLANET!!11!!1ty!!!
:P
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:55:14pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:55:29pm |
re: #114 freetoken
Those oh so thoughtful "conservatives":
Get a load of this guy:
“What a shame that we’ve erased shame from society,” Tamny said. “Why can’t we make someone feel embarrassed for living off of others? Why can’t business people do that in the United States? I think it’s moving away from what makes us great.”
These are the words of a man who has never experienced one moment of adversity in his life.
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Targetpractice Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:55:50pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:56:22pm |
re: #106 CuriousLurker
Thanks! Hiatus is over now, I'm ready to rumble. ;)
Ramadan ends, Elul begins...
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:56:26pm |
re: #136 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
At this point, the Republican party exists for the sole purpose of just being an obstacle to a civilized society.— Path2Enlightenment (@Path2Enlighten) August 19, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:56:41pm |
re: #129 Charles Johnson
@lizardoid Business Owners who don't want their taxed hiked.#ThingsThatEnrageDemocrats
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) August 19, 2012
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:57:09pm |
re: #129 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
More things that make Republicans Angry:
People who remember that Cap and Trade was a Reagan initiative.
People who remember that Reagan raised taxes five times.
People who aren't scared of brown people, gays or non-Christians.
People who enjoy sex.
People who have sex regularly enough to enjoy it.
People who think science is actually true.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:00pm |
Eid Mubarak and congratulations to Ludwig.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:29pm |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:58:48pm |
Science. #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Charles Johnson (@Lizardoid) August 19, 2012
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:59:10pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 7:59:10pm |
re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote
Comparing me to Neil is very, very kind. He is a great guy and a passionate educator. I respect him a lot - even if I still like Pluto as a planet.
Thank you!
And yes, I've met him enough times to call him Neil.
My grandson totally pwn3d me. About 6 weeks ago, he came to stay at my house for a night just before getting on the bus to take him to camp in Kalkaska, Michigan. I let him use my computer to watch videos and play games.
At about 9:30 that night I told him he had to log off and go to bed. He had a Neil De Grasse video up on Youtube and he said "Pleeeease! Pleeeeease let me watch one more video! It's Neil De Grasse, it's so educational! Pleeeeease!"
I thought to myself "awww, he loves science videos, that's so sweet!" so I let him stay on the computer to watch Dr. Neil talk about science.
Two minutes later I heard the Mario sounds.
I was pwn3d by the 8-year-old future Evil Overlord.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:00:16pm |
re: #141 LudwigVanQuixote
People who don't think life should be a purely punitive exercise.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:01:42pm |
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:02:36pm |
re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote
Comparing me to Neil is very, very kind. He is a great guy and a passionate educator. I respect him a lot - even if I still like Pluto as a planet.
Thank you!
And yes, I've met him enough times to call him Neil.
Oooh, I'm so jealous! I absolutely adore him.
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:03:17pm |
Hey look, I found a tweet that ties together nearly all the conversation topics in this thread ;)
#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans only having Ted Nugent, Dave Mustane, & Hank Williams Jr to play— Arrogant Demon (@ArrogantDemon) August 19, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:04:29pm |
Entitlement Reform. #ThingsThatEnrageDemocrats
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) August 19, 2012
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:05:05pm |
Shaming the poor worked ever so well for the aristocracies of the world.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:05:54pm |
re: #146 Learned Mother of Zion
My grandson totally pwn3d me. About 6 weeks ago, he came to stay at my house for a night just before getting on the bus to take him to camp in Kalkaska, Michigan. I let him use my computer to watch videos and play games.
At about 9:30 that night I told him he had to log off and go to bed. He had a Neil De Grasse video up on Youtube and he said "Pleeeease! Pleeeeease let me watch one more video! It's Neil De Grasse, it's so educational! Pleeeeease!"
I thought to myself "awww, he loves science videos, that's so sweet!" so I let him stay on the computer to watch Dr. Neil talk about science.
Two minutes later I heard the Mario sounds.
I was pwn3d by the 8-year-old future Evil Overlord.
Ohhh the solution to that is simple...
Next time you see him, and have some yummy bubby treats available - I am imagining the smell of warm strudel - tell him he can have a piece if he can explain Kepler's three laws. It's something that Neil talks about a lot in his educational videos. If he doesn't remember, maybe he should go look them up and watch a video on them. He can have the strudel when he is ready. Be sure to serve some to a sister before you send him off.
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:06:08pm |
re: #125 CuriousLurker
I thoguht of you last weekend when I was watching a bunch of Neil DeGrasse Tyson videos. He explains stuff really well, and he makes it fun because it's so obvious that he loves his work and even after so many years doing it—and despite his fame—he's still fascinated & humbled by the awesomeness of the universe.
I mean, like I know he's an atheist, but he's not nasty about it and his passion for learning & discovery is sort of his religion. Plus he sounds like a fiery Sunday preacher (but in a good way) once he gets going. ;)
We need more like him. Lots more.
The guy seems to have his head straight. Here's one I sampled:
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:06:32pm |
re: #149 calochortus
Oooh, I'm so jealous! I absolutely adore him.
Just get yourself to a AAAS meeting - or any of a number of other conferences he frequents. He is very friendly.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:06:45pm |
re: #152 The Ghost of a Flea
Shaming the poor worked ever so well for the aristocracies of the world.
Staved off a potentially calamitous revolution in France.
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:07:20pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, you're a day late and a dollar short :) The twitter wingnuts already had a thingsThatMightAnnoyADem tag, which has now been knocked off the trending list.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:08:04pm |
re: #156 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
Staved off a potentially calamitous revolution in France.
Admonitions about bootstrap pulling utterly crushed the rise of Bolshevism.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:08:24pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh the solution to that is simple...
Next time you see him, and have some yummy bubby treats available - I am imagining the smell of warm strudel - tell him he can have a piece if he can explain Kepler's three laws. It's something that Neil talks about a lot in his educational videos. If he doesn't remember, maybe he should go look them up and watch a video on them. He can have the strudel when he is ready. Be sure to serve some to a sister before you send him off.
If you are sitting with the king, and you have to go, go. Don't wait.
This is the law he wrote after Brahe died.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:08:38pm |
re: #157 Interesting Times
Sorry, you're a day late and a dollar short :) The twitter wingnuts already had a thingsThatMightAnnoyADem tag, which has now been knocked off the trending list.
I'm not on Twitter much.
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:12:34pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:12:52pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh the solution to that is simple...
Next time you see him, and have some yummy bubby treats available - I am imagining the smell of warm strudel - tell him he can have a piece if he can explain Kepler's three laws. It's something that Neil talks about a lot in his educational videos. If he doesn't remember, maybe he should go look them up and watch a video on them. He can have the strudel when he is ready. Be sure to serve some to a sister before you send him off.
I could try that on Zedushka. :)
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:14:37pm |
When a state program funneling taxpayer money to religious schools is ruined by Muslims applying for it #ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans— Interesting Times (@intrstngtimes) August 19, 2012
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Targetpractice Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:15:14pm |
re: #161 Varek Raith
You mean turning medicare into a voucher program.
Yeah...well...at least Ryan's getting people talking about it! What has Obama ever done?!
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:16:39pm |
re: #154 abolitionist
The guy seems to have his head straight. Here's one I sampled:
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I'd never watched him at length until last weekend, and once I got started I couldn't stop. I must've watched 15-20 videos. They were all excellent. He's able to talk about the importance of science and reason without sounding snarky or condescending.
That's important if you want to reach people. Most people aren't atheists and ridiculing their beliefs simply isn't conducive to persuading them to listen to what you're saying. He makes his points in a gentle, funny, good-humored way that doesn't cause people to feel defensive & shut down.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:17:02pm |
re: #154 abolitionist
The guy seems to have his head straight. Here's one I sampled:
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My standard argument about UFOs goes like this.
OK, space is really really big, and the building blocks of life seem to be spread over a lot of different planets in a wet water zone.
Fermi paradox aside, I am almost certain that there are other living critters out there.
But I really don't think the standard UFO lore could possibly be true.
Why?
1. Space is really, really big. It doesn't matter how advanced E.T. is, getting from there to here (if that is possible in a lifetime) would require physics and engineering we have not even contemplated. It would not be trivial to do. And if it takes them thousands of years to get here, that would be totally non-trivial.
2. Either way, they would have to have vastly superior technology and science.
3. So once they get here, their most pressing scientific question -for over 50 years! - would be, what is in a Redneck's ass? It does not take 50 years of advanced research to figure that out! Besides that, the only thing they would figure out from it is that one in five doesn't mind so much.
4. They make crop circles to communicate with others of their kind when they get here? What, they can cross light years, but don't have a radio? (And I know the guys who started that fad in England came forward years ago).
5. They spend an inordinate amount of time not bothering to eat, visit with people in an open manner, or refuel or colonize? I mean come on, that would be like driving from New York to L.A. and not stretching your legs, or taking a pitstop, or doing anything in L.A. before going home.
Yeah the stories are rubbish.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:17:58pm |
re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh the solution to that is simple...
Next time you see him, and have some yummy bubby treats available - I am imagining the smell of warm strudel - tell him he can have a piece if he can explain Kepler's three laws. It's something that Neil talks about a lot in his educational videos. If he doesn't remember, maybe he should go look them up and watch a video on them. He can have the strudel when he is ready. Be sure to serve some to a sister before you send him off.
He will say "YOU ARE A SEXIST because you gave some to Sarah and she didn't have to explain Kepler's laws."
"But Sarah is younger than you are."
"So she should at least say pi to 6 places in order to get pi."
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:18:45pm |
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:19:41pm |
re: #168 Learned Mother of Zion
He will say "YOU ARE A SEXIST because you gave some to Sarah and she didn't have to explain Kepler's laws."
"But Sarah is younger than you are."
"So she should at least say pi to 6 places in order to get pi."
By all means have her learn pi to six decimal places.
But point out that she didn't beg to stay up late watching astronomy videos, only to play Mario.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:19:42pm |
re: #154 abolitionist
One of my favorite things about Tyson is that he often tries to remind people who aren't necessarily curious about astrophysics that space exploration has the side-effect of producing unimaginably serendipitous spin-off technologies, and also serves to inspire young kids to pursue whatever interest they may have in math, engineering, the sciences, computing, etc. If there's one thing the US does NOT need any more of, it's marketers, lawyers, and MBAs with a 2.0 GPA.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:20:23pm |
re: #171 LudwigVanQuixote
By all means have her learn pi to six decimal places.
But point out that she didn't beg to stay up late watching astronomy videos, only to play mario.
Sarah likes Dora the Explora, she won't watch anything else.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:22:38pm |
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:24:13pm |
re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote
My standard argument about UFOs goes like this.
OK, space is really really big, and the building blocks of life seem to be spread over a lot of different planets in a wet water zone.
Fermi paradox aside, I am almost certain that there are other living critters out there.
freetoken had an excellent comeback to Fermi's paradox - simply that radio waves attenuate over long distances (and as Varek has so poetically put it, "space is stupidly big"), so by the time any alien communication reached us, it would be too weak to pick up over background signal noise.
The paradox does suggest, however, that faster-than-light or even close-to-light speed travel can't be developed.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:24:21pm |
re: #173 Learned Mother of Zion
Sarah likes Dora the Explora, she won't watch anything else.
Good on Sarah... I am focussing on the little evil overlord.
To really do it right, teach Sarah Kepler's three laws, have her recite them, and ask your little overlord a question about what AGN (Active Galactic Nuclei) are. Or how we know there is Dark Matter. I'm pretty sure Neil has videos on those topics.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:26:21pm |
re: #175 Interesting Times
freetoken had an excellent comeback to Fermi's paradox - simply that radio wave attenuate over long distances (and as Varek has so poetically put it, "space is stupidly big"), so by the time any alien communication reached us, it would be too weak to pick up over background signal noise.
The paradox does suggest, however, that faster-than-light or even close-to-light speed travel can't be developed.
Well Fermi's paradox is just "if there are so many of them, where are they?"
Einstein poses a lot of problems for FTL... and wormholes and certain aspects of string theory aside, we have absolutely no idea how to engineer such a thing if it were possible.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:26:57pm |
re: #172 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
One of my favorite things about Tyson is that he often tries to remind people who aren't necessarily curious about astrophysics that space exploration has the side-effect of producing unimaginably serendipitous spin-off technologies, and also serves to inspire young kids to pursue whatever interest they may have in math, engineering, the sciences, computing, etc. If there's one thing the US does NOT need any more of, it's marketers, lawyers, and MBAs with a 2.0 GPA.
On the one hand, I keep reading these heartrending horror stories of college graduates and unemployed professionals who can't find jobs or even get interviews.
On the other hand, I also don't stop getting spammed and called by recruiters, these are not scams but legitimate job openings for skilled IT professionals with automotive industry experience.
None of the people who wrote the heartbreaking unemployment stories for Gawker complained about being jobless in Detroit. They are all in "soft skill" professions like law, journalism, the arts, marketing, middle management, administration (but without IT skills).
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:28:02pm |
re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote
Someone on an earlier thread also pointed out that with the advent of cell phones we're actually seeing fewer claims of UFOs-because it would be odd not to snap a picture.
I see it as being like Noah's Ark. In the 1800s people reported being able to walk through compartments and pretty much do a complete tour of the Ark. By the time there were portable cameras, it was a vague outline in the ice, then the political situation kept everyone out of the area, and now, one just doesn't hear much about it. At least not in the general population. There may still be people out there who can think of a good reason why we can't get a nice photo on Google Earth.
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:29:12pm |
re: #167 LudwigVanQuixote
With respect to how likely is a discovery extra-terrestial life [ed] intelligence, anyone interested should consider a line argument by Dyson. Considering that, on earth at least, intelligence seems to be a characteristic of hunter-carnivore-killer species, and considering that human civilization has grown (so far) over such a tiny interval of time, compared to the age of the universe, any encounter of that sort is unlikely to benefit us.
I'm reminded of that Outer Limits episode, To Serve Man.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:29:50pm |
re: #178 Learned Mother of Zion
On the one hand, I keep reading these heartrending horror stories of college graduates and unemployed professionals who can't find jobs or even get interviews.
On the other hand, I also don't stop getting spammed and called by recruiters, these are not scams but legitimate job openings for skilled IT professionals with automotive industry experience.
None of the people who wrote the heartbreaking unemployment stories for Gawker complained about being jobless in Detroit. They are all in "soft skill" professions like law, journalism, the arts, marketing, middle management, administration (but without IT skills).
The GOP utterly declared war on science. In between their cuts, refusal to pass budgets, and the threat of sequestration, many Ph.D.s are looking for work and settling for non-science gigs. I know dozens of really bright folks personally, who were in fields that usually have money but, have been burnt by this.
The Patent office seems to be picking up a lot of Ph.D.s these days.
I also know a really brilliant string theorist who is teaching high-school.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:30:39pm |
re: #179 calochortus
Excellent point!
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:31:21pm |
re: #166 CuriousLurker
I also saw one video where he talked about his first trip to the planetarium at the Museum of Natural History when he was like 9 years old. He said that's when the bug bit him and is life was changed.
I didn't realize he was a native New Yorker—a place where it's almost impossible to see the stars in any great number/detail. He said he wondered what would have happened if he'd grown up somewhere where people are more familiar with the night sky, where the stars & such are highly visible. Would his first visit to the planetarium have been such a life-changing event?
Interesting thought. Who knows?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:32:54pm |
re: #180 abolitionist
Any species would have arisen through natural selection and it follows that E.T. would be the dominant predator on his planet.
Given that he can get here, and we can't imagine how, it would be no contest.
It wouldn't be like a rifle carrying army vs. knights.
It would be like the way we imagine Star Trek, or Babylon 5 vs. cave men.
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Sheila Broflovski Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:34:51pm |
re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote
Any species would have arisen through natural selection and it follows that E.T. would be the dominant predator on his planet.
Given that he can get here, and we can't imagine how, it would be no contest.
It wouldn't be like a rifle carrying army vs. knights.
It would be like the way we imagine Star Trek, or Babylon 5 vs. cave men.
Yeah but we can disable their spaceship communication system with a MacOS virus!//
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:36:15pm |
re: #177 LudwigVanQuixote
Well Fermi's paradox is just "if there are so many of them, where are they?"
Way the hell too far away for us to make contact! (I mean really, when you come right down to it, Fermi's Paradox is somewhat akin to people from the early middle ages saying "if there are people living on the other side of the world, why haven't we met them yet?")
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Lidane Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:36:15pm |
re: #179 calochortus
Someone on an earlier thread also pointed out that with the advent of cell phones we're actually seeing fewer claims of UFOs-because it would be odd not to snap a picture.
That's a good point. Back in the early 90's I met a woman who swore up and down she'd been abducted by aliens numerous times and been on a UFO. She even called herself a "field investigator" for these people. She was so earnest about it I didn't have the heart to laugh.
These days, it would be next to impossible for a UFO to show up here and not have its arrival live-blogged on Twitter and with photos and video cropping up everywhere online as it happened.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:39:50pm |
re: #186 Interesting Times
Way the hell too far away for us to make contact! (I mean really, when you come right down to it, Fermi's Paradox is somewhat akin to people from the early middle ages saying "if there are people living on the other side of the world, why haven't we met them yet?")
Truth.
Also, even though, I am almost certain there are other critters out there, space-ship building intelligence is not assured by evolution and would not happen without the right niche.
However smart dolphins - or mega imagined dolphins - might be, they will never make tools like us. They don't need them.
If there were no dinosaur killer, I am sure they would still be around, and it is not clear they would develop big honking brains or opposable thumbs.
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andres Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:39:55pm |
re: #151 Dark_Falcon
Didn't entitlement reform happen during Clinton's administration? Just saying.
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:40:35pm |
re: #187 Lidane
I see they have a nice section on "How to digitally record/video a UFO sighting." A stable camera seems to be their main focus, which would make a nice change from the videos I've seen.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:42:06pm |
re: #168 Learned Mother of Zion
He will say "YOU ARE A SEXIST because you gave some to Sarah and she didn't have to explain Kepler's laws."
"But Sarah is younger than you are."
"So she should at least say pi to 6 places in order to get pi."
I used to have a colleague I would occasionally trade kids with between classrooms if they were acting up.
He usually sent me this loud little boy with red hair. One day the kid shows up in my room, bangs the door open, and declares, "Mr. C is sexist against his own kind!"
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:50:54pm |
re: #188 LudwigVanQuixote
Also, even though, I am almost certain there are other critters out there, space-ship building intelligence is not assured by evolution and would not happen without the right niche.
Exactly. And it's kind of sad, in a way. I'd really hoped I could live long enough to see us discover life - any life - on another planet. Now, I'm left hoping I don't live long enough to see us destroy our own :(
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:51:59pm |
re: #192 Interesting Times
Exactly. And it's kind of sad, in a way. I'd really hoped I could live long enough to see us discover life - any life - on another planet. Now, I'm left hoping I don't live long enough to see us destroy our own :(
Well... that is one of the reasons why I got out of strings an into chaos and climate.
We fix the immediate problem or the universe goes on without us.
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:54:34pm |
OT but I've just been watching a TV show where someone shows Julia Child how she makes an incredibly rich chocolate cake with a filling of more chocolate, whipped creme fraiche and raspberries. It is topped with ruffles made of chocolate. I think I just gained 5 pounds... Who would think of making whipped cream with creme fraiche?
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:54:56pm |
re: #174 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
so relevant right now:
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Thanks, I didn't see that one. Excellent.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:56:37pm |
Good question on FB:
If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama Bin Laden, because he only gave the order and didn't do it himself, does that mean that Bin Laden wasn't responsible for 9/11, since he only gave the order, and didn't do it himself?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:58:47pm |
re: #195 calochortus
OT but I've just been watching a TV show where someone shows Julia Child how she makes an incredibly rich chocolate cake with a filling of more chocolate, whipped creme fraiche and raspberries. It is topped with ruffles made of chocolate. I think I just gained 5 pounds... Who would think of making whipped cream with creme fraiche?
That post generated a Pavlovian response... And with that... I feel the need to get a slice of my honey's chocolate torte...
OK...
I am going to brag.
She made a chocolate torte with crushed pistachios, topped it with an amaretto mousse and made a light tangerine sauce to be dribbled on top.
She left me with orders not to eat the whole thing immediately after Shabbos.
It is now Sunday my time... Definitely not immediately after.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 8:59:39pm |
re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist
Good question on FB:
If Obama isn't responsible for killing Osama Bin Laden, because he only gave the order and didn't do it himself, does that mean that Bin Laden wasn't responsible for 9/11, since he only gave the order, and didn't do it himself?
Wow...
I like that.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:02:01pm |
:)
#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans Charles Johnson— Gus (@Gus_802) August 19, 2012
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:03:43pm |
By the way...
And I want this noted as the one climate thing I post about tonight.
There is about a 50-50 chance of no winter, but a lot of rain this year, just like last winter.
If the cold fronts are strong enough though, the other 50% is that we get massive, scary massive blizzards.
Just calling it out now.
Either it is so warm very little snow, but lots of rain, or just cold enough that all that warm water that came up this summer comes down as snow.
Neither case will help the droughts in the south west and mid west though.
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:04:02pm |
re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist
Not true that OBL "only gave the order". His family wealth was derived from building and construction, and his own formal education was in engineering/architecture. The SOB was surely involved in planning the 911 attacks, probably as early as 1993 (1st bombing) or before.
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CuriousLurker Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:07:11pm |
Getting sleepy. Have a good night, everyone.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:09:45pm |
OK... night all. Getting sleepy myself.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
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Interesting Times Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:09:59pm |
re: #202 LudwigVanQuixote
If the cold fronts are strong enough though, the other 50% is that we get massive, scary massive blizzards.
Just calling it out now.
Yes, that way, you're in before:
Durr hurr, it's snowing, so gorebull warming's a hoax. Derp.
On another note, I just sent you an email.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:13:39pm |
re: #203 abolitionist
Not true that OBL "only gave the order". His family wealth was derived from building and construction, and his own formal education was in engineering/architecture. The SOB was surely involved in planning the 911 attacks, probably as early as 1993 (1st bombing) or before.
OK, OK, get technical on me!
;)
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HappyWarrior Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:18:46pm |
Speaking of Bin Laden, that book by Steve Coll about the Bin Laden clan was fascinating.
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:22:01pm |
re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, OK, get technical on me!
;)
Ok. The glass transition temperature of most substances is about 2/3 of their melting points on the Kelvin scale (absolute temp). Therefore, steel loses much of its strength way below its melting point.
Water is a significant exception to that rule. For H20, it's closer to 1/2.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:25:29pm |
re: #210 abolitionist
Ok. The glass transition temperature of most substances is about 2/3 of their melting points on the Kelvin scale (absolute temp). Therefore, steel loses much of its strength way below its melting point.
Water is a significant exception to that rule. For H20, it's closer to 1/2.
So, what you're telling me is that setting a rabbit cage over an open fire is not a good way to judge what happens to a large building that's had a jetliner full of fuel slam into it?
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:26:41pm |
re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist
Quite so. The temperatures aren't even comparable.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:27:11pm |
re: #212 abolitionist
Quite so. The temperatures aren't even comparable.
I'm just eternally grateful that that guy had the sanity to take the rabbit out first.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:27:44pm |
Hey all,
A while back there was a link or pages post to an article that explained why the ID requirement for voting was alot like Jim Crow. Anyone remember it? I want to send it to a friend, but, of course, I am drawing a blank on it's name or publication or how to find it.
thanks!
And, how is everyone this evening?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:28:36pm |
and cuteness break.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:30:20pm |
re: #193 Kronocide
Hoo boy, papa going to be happy for Xmas!
Typical American, always contemplating how to create mayhem with guns . . .
/chanelling the troll
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:32:48pm |
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calochortus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:37:59pm |
On that uplifting note, I'll say good night.
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Gus Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:40:13pm |
#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans twitter.com/AngryBlackLady...— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) August 19, 2012
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abolitionist Sat, Aug 18, 2012 9:41:52pm |
re: #214 ggt
Hey all,
A while back there was a link or pages post to an article that explained why the ID requirement for voting was alot like Jim Crow. Anyone remember it? I want to send it to a friend, but, of course, I am drawing a blank on it's name or publication or how to find it.
thanks!
And, how is everyone this evening?
Maybe try
[yourSearchEngine] GOP voter ID "jim crow"
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palomino Sun, Aug 19, 2012 12:39:47am |
re: #2 Bubblehead II
The Onion just keeps getting sicker. This is gutter politics at its worse.
Aw, lighten up. First, this isn't "politics." It's the Onion, a satirical site that isn't meant to be taken seriously on political matters. You've got to be pretty literal minded to think this is really political writing.
Second, making fun of aging and dying are things humans have been doing since the first humans existed. Why? Because deep down we're all afraid of getting old and kicking the bucket, so we use humor to alleviate some of that anxiety.
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 12:45:05am |
American politics is becoming a bad parody of itself and it grows increasingly harder to separate Onion headlines from reality.
Remember the blowup when a senator took their "multi-million dollar abortionplex opens" story seriously?
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Kragar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 1:33:25am |
Well, its taken most of the evening, but I've got a successful kitbash of Space Wolves Wolf Priest in Terminator armor. Had to cut down and rebuild the entire right arm to get the weapon and grip right.
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EdDantes Sun, Aug 19, 2012 3:55:25am |
re: #227 Expand Your Ground
This is my favorite Onion parody. And some morons thought this "congressman" was a real elected democrat to the House of Representatives !
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sattv4u2 Sun, Aug 19, 2012 4:25:31am |
re: #228 Kragar
Well, its taken most of the evening, but I've got a successful kitbash of Space Wolves Wolf Priest in Terminator armor. Had to cut down and rebuild the entire right arm to get the weapon and grip right.
Wow
And here all that I got accomplished is rebalancing a 64 x 64 digital high definition router!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Aug 19, 2012 6:16:46am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 6:38:03am |
re: #193 Kronocide
Hoo boy, papa going to be happy for Xmas!
It's a good idea, but I find the photoshop of the salt gun for Charlton Heston's "from my cold, dead, hands" musket to be rather off-putting.
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 6:57:47am |
re: #232 Dark_Falcon
Heston holding the Bug A Salt is hecka funny. I don't understand why you would find it off putting.
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 6:59:47am |
re: #193 Kronocide
Hoo boy, papa going to be happy for Xmas!
They will be fun until Obama bans them!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:05:50am |
re: #233 Kronocide
Heston holding the Bug A Salt is hecka funny. I don't understand why you would find it off putting.
Aesthetic and authenticity reasons, really. They didn't do any thing wrong, I just don't like it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:09:18am |
re: #233 Kronocide
Replied to your post on the South Africa mine incident Page.
Incident is used because its a neutral word.
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:16:25am |
re: #234 Expand Your Ground
They will be fun until Obama bans them!
I don't think it's strong enough to murder a gecko, probably will just torture it unless I get a well place head shot.
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:42:19am |
Foxconn has not disclosed how many workers will be displaced or when. But its chairman, Terry Gou, has publicly endorsed a growing use of robots. Speaking of his more than one million employees worldwide, he said in January, according to the official Xinhua news agency: “As human beings are also animals, to manage one million animals gives me a headache.”
Tact. You're doing it wrong.
I'm all for robot technology and helping the greater world community. But that's the difference between Terry Gou and I. To him, robots are about making money and that is all.
Any change to robot industrialization needs to be balanced and reviewed in terms of impact it will make on the workforce. At least make an attempt to consider that impact and review potential mitigation measures. Just a thought.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:47:40am |
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:55:25am |
re: #238 Kronocide
Tact. You're doing it wrong.
I'm all for robot technology and helping the greater world community. But that's the difference between Terry Gou and I. To him, robots are about making money and that is all.
Any change to robot industrialization needs to be balanced and reviewed in terms of impact it will make on the workforce. At least make an attempt to consider that impact and review potential mitigation measures. Just a thought.
Robotics werw supposed to mean more prosperity and less work for us.
But it turned out to mean more prosperity and more unemployed...I don't thnk that is quite the point, but that is now our system is currently set up.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:56:15am |
re: #239 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
That sounds EXACTLY like something GLaDOS would say. Exactly.
Terry Gau wants to make money with a minimum of fuss and bother. That's all. He regards his employees as simply a means to that end. I'm actually glad he just came out and said that, too. It's easier to deal with someone if you know what sort of person they are and what they want. I can also have a modest amount of respect for a money-lover who doesn't lie and honestly admits he craves money and power. At least he's authentic, though not a good person in my eyes.
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steve_davis Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:58:11am |
re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote
Any species would have arisen through natural selection and it follows that E.T. would be the dominant predator on his planet.
Given that he can get here, and we can't imagine how, it would be no contest.
It wouldn't be like a rifle carrying army vs. knights.
It would be like the way we imagine Star Trek, or Babylon 5 vs. cave men.
More accurately, it would be like Lovecraft: they'd be here. They'd know we were here. And they just wouldn't care. There's a 50% chance our proteins would be spun up wrong, so they couldn't even take us back to their home world to turn us into some kind of delicacy for the nouveau riche.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:58:13am |
re: #241 Dark_Falcon
I always got a kick out of the habit some companies used to have of throwing about slogans such as "our employees are our most important asset." In my experience, any company's most important asset is money. Employees are somewhere below toilet paper and post-it notes.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:58:38am |
re: #240 Expand Your Ground
Robotics were supposed to mean more prosperity and less work for us.
But it turned out to mean more prosperity and more unemployed...I don't think that is quite the point, but that is now our system is currently set up.
Preview Is Your Friend
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:00:03am |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:01:23am |
re: #243 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
I always got a kick out of the habit some companies used to have of throwing about slogans such as "our employees are our most important asset." In my experience, any company's most important asset is money. Employees are somewhere below toilet paper and post-it notes.
Not where I work. The experienced employees are honestly valued more than any equipment. but the main focus, as always, is on profit and those who cannot produce do not bring value to the company. But I knew that when I took the job and it doesn't bother me. If I'm not bringing the company value, I shouldn't be working there.
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Mattand Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:04:26am |
re: #243 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
I always got a kick out of the habit some companies used to have of throwing about slogans such as "our employees are our most important asset." In my experience, any company's most important asset is money. Employees are somewhere below toilet paper and post-it notes.
For years I've been saying that for most companies, the least valuable asset sitting at a worker's station is the employee. You never hear of mass layoffs involving filing cabinets.
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:04:34am |
re: #246 Dark_Falcon
Not where I work. The experienced employees are honestly valued more than any equipment. but the main focus, as always, is on profit and those who cannot produce do not bring value to the company. But I knew that when I took the job and it doesn't bother me. If I'm not bringing the company value, I shouldn't be working there.
There are companies that understand how it works over the long run, but since our system seems to be big on short-term bottom line results, it is often the employees who get the shaft first.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:06:50am |
re: #246 Dark_Falcon
If your employer suddenly discovered that it would suffer no consequences other than that its stock price would instantly quadruple if they fed 50% of the employees into a tree shredder, what do you think they'd do?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:07:54am |
re: #247 Mattand
For years I've been saying that for most companies, the least valuable asset sitting at a worker's station is the employee. You never hear of mass layoffs involving filing cabinets.
They're not the least valuable, they're just the most expensive asset. And unlike employees, you can move filing cabinets into storage for years at a time if needed.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:10:42am |
re: #249 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
If your employer suddenly discovered that it would suffer no consequences other than that its stock price would instantly quadruple if they fed 50% of the employees into a tree shredder, what do you think they'd do?
My employer has one owner, and it would not be prudent for me to speculate on such a hypothetical.
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Mattand Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:13:32am |
re: #249 What Would Spalding Gray Do?
If your employer suddenly discovered that its stock price would instantly quadruple if they fed 50% of the employees into a tree shredder, what do you think they'd do?
There's a story going around in the Apple world about how the new Apple Store chief wants to start shit canning people to improve profit, even if it means a hit in customer service. As easily predicted, the fanbois are self-flagellating and screaming "STEVE would have never done that!!"
What's funny is that current and former employees are chiming in to point out that, yes, your beloved demi-god did do that. Jobs was smart enough not to say out loud that customer service might take a hit.
Granted, I've been a freelancer for several years, so I have a different perspective. However, I often think back to one of the actual useful pieces of advice my dad gave me: You can love your company, but it will never love you.
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Mattand Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:14:38am |
re: #250 Dark_Falcon
They're not the least valuable, they're just the most expensive asset. And unlike employees, you can move filing cabinets into storage for years at a time if needed.
That somehow doesn't make me feel better.
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:20:03am |
re: #250 Dark_Falcon
They're not the least valuable, they're just the most expensive asset. And unlike employees, you can move filing cabinets into storage for years at a time if needed.
People are the most important asset in a company. It doesn't matter if it's your sister baking the cupcakes or thousands that build Nuclear Submarines or the girl taking your order from at the Ckick-fil-a drive up window.
People are everything to business.
Now we have been watching transformation over the last 20 years of the Industrial sector of America..Look..If you had a job a robot could do or a kid in China for ten cents a day fabricate..You're fucked.
/ Good morning from the Ozarks
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:23:13am |
re: #253 Mattand
That somehow doesn't make me feel better.
I wrote it to provide clarity, not to make you feel better. To make you feel better, I'll post this:
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darthstar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:24:37am |
re: #251 Dark_Falcon
My employer has one owner, and it would not be prudent for me to speculate on such a hypothetical.
War. (Or the threat of war...yeah...your owner isn't going anywhere)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:26:30am |
re: #254 Digital Display
People are the most important asset in a company. It doesn't matter if it's your sister baking the cupcakes or thousands that build Nuclear Submarines or the girl taking your order from at the Ckick-fil-a drive up window.
People are everything to business.
Now we have been watching transformation over the last 20 years of the Industrial sector of America..Look..If you had a job a robot could do or a kid in China for ten cents a day fabricate..You're fucked.
/ Good morning from the Ozarks
Submarine building is actually one of the cases where the workers really are understood to be a critical asset. That's why Iran keeps building minisubs, even as they try to work out a new design. The people who build submarines have specialized skills and it is seriously damaging to a builder's yard for them to go work elsewhere or for their skills to become rusty.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:26:34am |
re: #254 Digital Display
People are the most important asset in a company. It doesn't matter if it's your sister baking the cupcakes or thousands that build Nuclear Submarines or the girl taking your order from at the Ckick-fil-a drive up window.
People are everything to business.
Now we have been watching transformation over the last 20 years of the Industrial sector of America..Look..If you had a job a robot could do or a kid in China for ten cents a day fabricate..You're fucked.
/ Good morning from the Ozarks
I work for a call center. Yes, a call center in the USA! I don't answer the phones, but I calculate the metrics and generate the QA reports.
This company, like many others, had its call centers in Asia, but moved them back to the USA based on customer satisfaction reviews. Customers HATED the overseas call centers.
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darthstar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:27:13am |
Mornin' folks...just dropped the missus off at the airport...she's off to meet her family in Aspen for a week. It's our anniversary on Wednesday, but I just started a new job last week...that said, I think I'll call my boss and see how he feels about me taking Wednesday and Thursday off to fly out and surprise her. If I can't, that's okay...we've got tickets to see Rosanne Cash next weekend in Napa and will make a mini-anniversary-honeymoon out of that.
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Sheila Broflovski Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:27:22am |
They still maintain call centers in Asia, but only for the Asian customers.
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Mattand Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:31:02am |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
I wrote it to provide clarity, not to make you feel better. To make you feel better, I'll post this:
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Gee thanks. I'll watch the video later.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:33:04am |
re: #258 Learned Mother of Zion
I work for a call center. Yes, a call center in the USA! I don't answer the phones, but I calculate the metrics and generate the QA reports.
This company, like many others, had its call centers in Asia, but moved them back to the USA based on customer satisfaction reviews. Customers HATED the overseas call centers.
Sadly, said customers often take out their anger at overseas call centers at people who do not deserve the anger. Both at Sprint and at Marcus Evans I've heard co-workers of Indian origin get abused by jackasses who only saw my co-worker as a stereotype. My co-workers have all dealt with it in a professional manner, though.
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:33:24am |
re: #258 Learned Mother of Zion
I work for a call center. Yes, a call center in the USA! I don't answer the phones, but I calculate the metrics and generate the QA reports.
This company, like many others, had its call centers in Asia, but moved them back to the USA based on customer satisfaction reviews. Customers HATED the overseas call centers.
Tech support for a large security manufacturer I use does have long hours, but I frequently talk to people in other countries. My biggest frustration after difficulty in understanding is adherence to their queues and worksheets. The problems get fixed but it seems if they spent a little more time up front understand the whole of all my symptoms the calls would be shorter.
But the biggest laugh is the adherence to cover up the fact that these are overseas call centers. That last series of calls I had brought me through 4 techs, all of Eastern persuasion. Their names were Steve, Glenn, Gary, and the supervisor's name was Ash. Ash gets credit for most flair.
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:37:07am |
re: #257 Dark_Falcon
Submarine building is actually one of the cases where the workers really are understood to be a critical asset. That's why Iran keeps building minisubs, even as they try to work out a new design. The people who build submarines have specialized skills and it is seriously damaging to a builder's yard for them to go work elsewhere or for their skills to become rusty.
I Built Subs at MINSY for 20 years. Working for the DOD requires constant Education..Every month they sent you to class. It's an investment in people..
Of course after so many years of growth they really start throwing shit at you..One time after 10 years or so I get notice I'm going to school to learn Machinist trade for a month...Crap..Not my cup of tea..They don't care..Keep learning stuff and grow as a United States Government Employee.
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darthstar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:38:31am |
Our solemn obligation: twitter.com/JoeBiden/statu...— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) August 19, 2012
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:38:46am |
re: #264 Digital Display
..Keep learning stuff and grow as a United States Government Employee.
The US government is pressed to cut costs, but not required to show a profit.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:41:51am |
re: #266 Expand Your Ground
The US government is pressed to cut costs, but not required to show a profit.
It was not expected that Mare island would turn a profit, but they refitted the USS West Virginia as if they were expected to. After she had ended up on the bottom of Pearl Harbor, the yard fixed up fully in less than 2 years. Not just fixed, made her better than ever, too.
BBL
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darthstar Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:42:59am |
Leave it to TMZ...but Obama's beating Ryan by 10 points in their 'poll'.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:52:14am |
I seem to have lost track in the middle of the early morning and just turned-off my computer without checking back in at LGF. I hope this didn't cause a rift in the space-time continuum.
Is everyone ok this am?
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:52:37am |
re: #267 Dark_Falcon
It was not expected that Mare island would turn a profit, but they refitted the USS West Virginia as if they were expected to. After she had ended up on the bottom of Pearl Harbor, the yard fixed up fully in less than 2 years. Not just fixed, made her better than ever, too.
BBL
Mare Island was a great experience.. We worked on so many Subs..
I'll never forget the first morning the 646 pulled into DD4. It was 6am and I'm looking for coffee aboard and the old man grabbed me a cup. It was like meeting John Fucking Wayne. He was a leader with Hollywood good looks and a warm smile. I was really impressed. I loved Mare Island
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 8:59:36am |
re: #272 ggt
That has already been used in an Obama ad...they noted that they took that decision after they had examined Romney's tay returns...
Even better, McCain just leaned right into it, saying that "It had nothing to do with his tax returns, she was just the better candidate".
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:01:33am |
re: #268 Lidane
Of course McCain was subject to profound disclosure as is anyone serving in either house. As was Al Gore, Joe Biden... The image depends on folks not knowing this. Another election ad that depends on ignorance.
Have we really come to the place where that house disclosure requirement is inadequate? If so it's time to pass legislation requiring tax disclosure from any candidate for high office.
Or is the refusal to disclose a good hand for the Democrats that's being overplayed?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:06:32am |
re: #263 Kronocide
Tech support for a large security manufacturer I use does have long hours, but I frequently talk to people in other countries. My biggest frustration after difficulty in understanding is adherence to their queues and worksheets. The problems get fixed but it seems if they spent a little more time up front understand the whole of all my symptoms the calls would be shorter.
But the biggest laugh is the adherence to cover up the fact that these are overseas call centers. That last series of calls I had brought me through 4 techs, all of Eastern persuasion. Their names were Steve, Glenn, Gary, and the supervisor's name was Ash. Ash gets credit for most flair.
I don't care where they are as long as they can help me solve my problem!
What I do hate is that they spend more time on the verifying my identity, thanking me and asking me if there is anything else they can do, than actually helping me.
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:06:54am |
re: #274 Daniel Ballard
Or is the refusal to disclose a good hand for the Democrats that's being overplayed?
They are overplaying it a bit, but the way that Romney is handling it just invites them to keep hacking away at it. "I paid at least 13%, trust me" is not the sort of thing that is going to put this discussion to rest.
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Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:09:33am |
#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans is still trending! LOL
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:12:11am |
re: #276 Expand Your Ground
I expect ads from the GOP that make us feel dumber after reading. I guess I can expect them from the left as well. Promoting ignorance seems to be in the American electoral culture more than ever.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:12:11am |
re: #271 Digital Display
Mare Island was a great experience.. We worked on so many Subs..
I'll never forget the first morning the 646 pulled into DD4. It was 6am and I'm looking for coffee aboard and the old man grabbed me a cup. It was like meeting John Fucking Wayne. He was a leader with Hollywood good looks and a warm smile. I was really impressed. I loved Mare Island
Was that in 1993?
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AK-47% Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:13:14am |
re: #278 Daniel Ballard
I guess I can expect them from the left as well. Promoting ignorance seems to be in the American electoral culture more than ever.
it is also related to the fact that news reporting is no longer about presenting a balanced view of events, it is about confirming people's preconceived notions
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:23:13am |
re: #280 Expand Your Ground
it is also related to the fact that news reporting is no longer about presenting a balanced view of events, it is about confirming people's preconceived notions
Or, presenting events with a faux balance to confirm people's preconceived notions, or for the sake of looking like they were doing their job.
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:23:29am |
re: #279 William Barnett-Lewis
Was that in 1993?
I don't recall.. There were so many Boats we worked on over the years..
I think in 93 I was TDY at Pearl Harbor working on the Louisville.
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:26:26am |
re: #278 Daniel Ballard
I expect ads from the GOP that make us feel dumber after reading. I guess I can expect them from the left as well. Promoting ignorance seems to be in the American electoral culture more than ever.
Perhaps I'm missing your point. How is continuing to request Romney's tax returns for needed knowledge about the man promoting ignorance? Isn't it the opposite?
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:29:24am |
re: #282 Digital Display
I don't recall.. There were so many Boats we worked on over the years..
I think in 93 I was TDY at Pearl Harbor working on the Louisville.
Ok, was just looking at Grayling's wiki page and wondered if it was after they played tag with that Soviet boat.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:30:58am |
re: #262 Dark_Falcon
Sadly, said customers often take out their anger at overseas call centers at people who do not deserve the anger. Both at Sprint and at Marcus Evans I've heard co-workers of Indian origin get abused by jackasses who only saw my co-worker as a stereotype. My co-workers have all dealt with it in a professional manner, though.
I had a gig for a while taking catalog orders for Christmas cookies. People would ask if we were in India.
I assured them that we were in North Beach, San Francisco, within earshot of the bells at Sts. Peter and Paul.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:32:05am |
re: #283 allegro
Did you see the graphic Lidane put up from FB? It carefully excludes Reagan, points out winning Presidential candidates since with tax disclosures. As if that made the difference at the time? Laughable. It also shows all these losing candidates that did not reveal taxes. But many of those presidential losers are subject to profound disclosure requirements that (apart from this season) makes the point utterly moot. So much so it's misleading.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:33:52am |
re: #280 Expand Your Ground
it is also related to the fact that news reporting is no longer about presenting a balanced view of events, it is about confirming people's preconceived notions
The purpose of Rhetoric is to Persuade.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:39:13am |
re: #287 ggt
Hm. Or all too often to deceive.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:45:26am |
re: #283 allegro
My point was about that specific graphic. It overplays the issue, and gives a number of false impressions.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:48:32am |
re: #240 Expand Your Ground
Robotics werw supposed to mean more prosperity and less work for us.
But it turned out to mean more prosperity and more unemployed...I don't thnk that is quite the point, but that is now our system is currently set up.
Robotics is doing to manufacturing what the combine and the tractor did to agriculture. Manufacturing has become something we can do with very little labor input.
"Jobs" has two meanings. One is work that needs to be done, work that yields more in results than its costs. The other is as a social mechanism for distributing resources to people.
Whenever there's a technological change that dislocates the marriage of these two, there's friction. Enclosure in England. The advent of mechanical looms in England throwing women with spinning wheels out of work in India. Machines that displaced workers in France, and prompted them to throw "sabots" into the machinery, breaking it. (Saboteurs---then a new word, a coinage.) John Henry, displaced by a steam hammer. And on and on.
The overall effect of these revolutions in productivity has been to increase human lifespan to over double its pre-industrial value, with more and better goods for almost all. Our numbers have also soared.
Sometimes, the changes have just rolled over the victims. (Enclosure, for example.) Sometimes, there's been mitigating institutions set up, or the victims have been explicitly bought off. The demise of manufacturing as a major source of employment will be one more chapter in this saga. There are all sorts of mitigation efforts but nothing ever puts the victims back to where they were. The winners are the consumers who find that their income reaches further than it used to when buying "stuff". Automobiles are safer, they get better mileage, and they last longer. Fridges are bigger yet use less electricity. Functional basic clothing is so cheap that even the third-world poor mostly wear solid attire, not rags.
Going back to the way things were means going back to dangerous cars with bad mileage, fridges that use more kwh than we can generate, and beggars in rags. That's practically and morally unacceptable.
Rolling right over the victims and telling them it's all for the best in the end is no good either. Taken to the extreme, one gets massacres of miners. Taken in "moderation", one gets political backlash aimed at slowing the introduction of these ultimately benign advances in technology. Economists who have studied the history of technology change argue that we should just buy out the victims. That way, we secure the overall benefits in a way that greatly cushions the blow to the losers, without much diluting the benefits to the more numerous winners.
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Kronocide Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:52:19am |
re: #290 lostlakehiker
Economists who have studied the history of technology change argue that we should just buy out the victims. That way, we secure the overall benefits in a way that greatly cushions the blow to the losers, without much diluting the benefits to the more numerous winners.
I know what the two key ideologies say about those losers. One side says help em and the other says fuck em.
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Daniel Ballard Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:55:50am |
re: #283 allegro
I'm not trying to be contrary. But I wind up there sometimes.
Independent voters are in a position to respond positively to honest political advertising and negatively to deceptive ads. This time we have numbers on our side. That's pressure in the right direction to improve the environment all of us vote in.
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Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 9:56:06am |
#ThingsThatEnrageRepublicans Regulating the "well regulated militia."— Gus (@Gus_802) August 19, 2012
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:08:12am |
My feeling that in this age where employers do exhaustive background checks, credit checks, and even Facebook checks that influence their hiring decisions for even low level jobs, should we not demand at least a minimal scrutiny for one who wants to be hired as POTUS? I think the release of several years of complete taxes (Romney hasn't even released one year complete) is part of that minimal scrutiny especially when he has made his tax policy a large part of his campaign - one that just happens to further enrich him personally. The more he stomps his foot, acts indignant, and refuses to release this information, the less trustworthy and, IMO, qualified for the position.
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The Left Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:11:28am |
re: #294 allegro
The more he stomps his foot, acts indignant, and refuses to release this information, the less trustworthy and, IMO, qualified for the position.
Romney feels entitled to be president, and the more he acts like a spoiled entitled git the less presidential he looks.
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:11:34am |
And, oh yeah, add to that list his wiping out of all records for his MA governorship and Olympic leadership.
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:13:13am |
I don't care how much money Mitt has..I just want to know where he is keeping it all.
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The Left Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:13:47am |
re: #297 Digital Display
I don't care how much money Mitt has..I just want to know where he is keeping it all.
Hey Hoops! How's the road trip? And Winston?
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:14:14am |
re: #297 Digital Display
I don't care how much money Mitt has..I just want to know where he is keeping it all.
I will add responsibility to that as well. Is he really a responsible citizen of the country he wants to lead?
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Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:14:16am |
re: #295 Millicent Islam
Romney feels entitled to be president, and the more he acts like a spoiled entitled git the less presidential he looks.
Mitt's a dick. Full stop.
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Digital Display Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:16:07am |
re: #298 Millicent Islam
Hey Hoops! How's the road trip? And Winston?
Hi You..We are in the Ozarks today..Sick of driving so we are going to spend the day here relaxing before hitting the road again.
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The Left Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:16:48am |
re: #301 Digital Display
Hi You..We are in the Ozarks today..Sick of driving so we are going to spend the day here relaxing before hitting the road again.
Good, I hope you both have a nice relaxing day!
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:20:08am |
We're having a lovely rainy, refreshingly cool (
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allegro Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:21:58am |
re: #303 allegro
We're having a lovely rainy, refreshingly cool (
Golly that was a fail. I was saying... it's less than 80 degrees out - serious respite from normal August heat - and even The Boys were happy to sleep in this morning. It's a perfect lazy Sunday - or would be if I had a supply of Mimosas to go with it.
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Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:24:51am |
Miss this? Doonesbury: Jimmy Crow, "tell me with a straight face that the new GOP Voter I.D laws are actually... dlvr.it/21l1l8 #TPC— GottaLaff (@GottaLaff) August 19, 2012
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The Left Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:30:09am |
re: #304 allegro
Golly that was a fail. I was saying... it's less than 80 degrees out - serious respite from normal August heat - and even The Boys were happy to sleep in this morning. It's a perfect lazy Sunday - or would be if I had a supply of Mimosas to go with it.
Mmmmm...Mimosas.
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The Left Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:36:51am |
re: #307 Gus
So. Apparently some freak threw a bottle of urine at Cher.
His own urine, or someone else's? /
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Gus Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:37:09am |
If you have a gun, you can rob a bank, but if you have a bank, you can rob everyone.— Morgan Freeman (@MorgonFreeman) August 18, 2012
Boom!
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makeitstop Sun, Aug 19, 2012 10:41:08am |
I've been engaging with a wingnut on Facebook this morning.
1. I said Romney's budget plan was vague and I needed to see more detail.
2. He said that if I wanted to criticize Mitt's budget, I should wait until Obama produced his.
3. Posted a link to the White House web site that contained the budget.
4. He said the link was a lie.
5. I posted a link to an AP story that said Obama submitted his 2013 budget to Congress on Feb. 13 of this year.
6. He tried to refute my link by posting a link to a post on The Hill, which also stated that Obama submitted his budget on 2/13/12.
7. I pointed this out to him.
8. He posted a link to a web site about Santa Claus and accused me of 'believing everything on the internet.'
9. I posted a search results link that listed over 10,000 articles stating that Obama submitted his budget on 2/13/12.
10. He railed about the Tooth Fairy, accused me again of 'believing everything on the internet,' and said the writers of all 10,000 articles were 'in the tank for Obama.'
11. I went and got a cup of coffee and smoked a cigarette.
How do you argue with someone who refuses to acknowledge a basic, verified fact, even when presented with evidence backing it up? Now that I think about it, a better question would be why I bothered arguing with him.
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