In today’s episode, Texas wingnut par excellence Louie Gohmert says the Supreme Court’s DOMA decision is “against the laws of nature and nature’s God,” and now America’s really in for it. We’re talkin’ total collapse of civilization, people. It’s bad.
(Via Right Wing Watch.)
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:50:31pm |
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:51:15pm |
Bryan Fischer Says Anti-Gay Activists Now ‘Second Class Citizens,’ Mat Staver Likens DOMA Case to ‘Altering the Laws of Gravity’ - See more at: rightwingwatch.org
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b.d. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:52:32pm |
re: #1 Kragar
I thought that Twinkies going away was the end of civilization, now it is twinks getting married?
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:54:13pm |
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together…mass hysteria!
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:55:17pm |
Next thing you know, women will think they should get a say in their own reproductive systems. Its the end of the world!
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:56:32pm |
Dear Crazy Man,
Take your vindictive, petty god and shove it.
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Tigger2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:56:33pm |
Gohmert reproducing would be the end of intelligent civilisation.
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:56:44pm |
re: #6 Targetpractice
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together…mass hysteria!
Damnit, I was just fixing to post that!
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:56:55pm |
Apostate and heretical National Cathedral in D.C. rings bells to celebrate homosexual “marriage” #rebellion #heresy— Family Policy Net (@FamilyPolicy) June 26, 2013
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:57:15pm |
Still waiting for one decent secular argument against gay marriage, instead of the hysterical shrieking about “God’s law”.
*crickets*
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Sionainn Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:58:10pm |
Local talk show host, Heidi Harris, whining about the decision:
I hope those of you who support gay marriage appreciate the fact that I DON’T censor you on my page for disagreeing with me.
Sadly, as a Christian, I won’t be shown the same courtesy by the law. THAT is the problem.
I get so sick and tired of hearing how these Christians are being persecuted. Ugh.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:58:28pm |
re: #13 Ian G.
Still waiting for one decent secular argument for gay marriage, instead of the hysterical shrieking about “God’s law”.
*crickets*
Hope you like the sound of crickets.
;)
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:58:39pm |
I’m kind of ready for civilization to collapse, it would finally give these howler monkeys a chance to put up or shut up. My guess is that most of these flinty-eyed, fiercely independent, self reliant (as they seem themselves) conservative types would not survive a week without prodigious quantities of fuel, supermarket food, air conditioning and the police to keep “others” at bay. Gomer and his disciples can steer clear of my spread in any case.
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:58:46pm |
re: #12 Gus
My interpretation of God’s will is the correct one because shut up, that’s why!
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:59:15pm |
re: #13 Ian G.
Still waiting for one decent secular argument against gay marriage, instead of the hysterical shrieking about “God’s law”.
*crickets*
They might make some people look at the sad state of their own relationships and feel bad.
/
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 12:59:55pm |
re: #18 Occam’s Guillotine
I’m kind of ready for civilization to collapse, it would let these howler monkeys put up or shut up. My guess is that most of these flinty-eyed, fiercely independent, self reliant (as they seem themselves) conservative types would not survive a week without prodigious quantities of fuel, supermarket food, air conditioning and the police to keep “others” at bay. Gomer and his disciples can steer clear of my spread in any case.
I’ve watched all manner of zombie movies and played the entire Fallout series.
I’m good.
XD
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:00:10pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:00:14pm |
re: #16 Sionainn
Local talk show host, Heidi Harris, whining about the decision:
I get so sick and tired of hearing how these Christians are being persecuted. Ugh.
Somebody should take Heidi aside and tell her that she is not barred from being bigoted little shit. She is free to hate gays all she likes, publicly as well as privately. She’s just does not have a right to be free from criticism.
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:00:31pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:00:50pm |
re: #5 b.d.
I thought that Twinkies going away was the end of civilization, now it is twinks getting married?
Twinkies aren’t gone. They just changed owners (and they’ll be back).
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Dr. Matt Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:00:59pm |
These RWNJs cite “God’s law” whenever State Laws or the US Constitution fails them.
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:01:12pm |
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:01:23pm |
SCOTUS's DOMA decision does, in fact, contain clue on how it might rule on anti-gay marriage laws: http://t.co/zE4xjbT4F4— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) June 26, 2013
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:02:28pm |
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:02:39pm |
re: #29 Bulworth
The “Law” will “censor” her?
Yep. She can no longer try to force the Gov to force her religious beliefs on others.
Such a shame.
/
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:03:15pm |
Photos: Supreme Court rules on #Prop8, #DOMA http://t.co/c7He0PHnaw w/ this photo by @latfoto pic.twitter.com/M2NL6EXSDo— LA Times Photography (@latimesphotos) June 26, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:07pm |
re: #27 dragonath
Suddenly I find myself imagining a government facility that would be used for such a purpose:
- Immaculately designed interior
- Large closets
- Village people music
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Eventual Carrion Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:31pm |
re: #21 Varek Raith
I’ve watched all manner of zombie movies and played the entire Fallout series.
I’m good.
XD
Catch “Warm Bodies” yet? Watched it last night. I liked the quirky point of reference from the zombie side.
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Mike Lamb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:34pm |
re: #16 Sionainn
Local talk show host, Heidi Harris, whining about the decision:
I get so sick and tired of hearing how these Christians are being persecuted. Ugh.
Seriously. Let’s contemplate the nature of the decision: it overturned a federal law banning a subset of consenting adults from getting married to a person of their choice. It ended federally sanctioned persecution/discrimination of a specific group of people. Yet somehow that means Christians are being persecuted…riiiiight.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:36pm |
re: #12 Gus
There are Americans in the year 2013 using the word ‘heresy’ unironically.
My fucking head just exploded.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:42pm |
I have decided to reply to any and all wingnut whiners complaining about the SCOTUS rulings with a simple “HaHa!”
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:04:57pm |
re: #23 Targetpractice
Somebody should take Heidi aside and tell her that she is not barred from being bigoted little shit. She is free to hate gays all she likes, publicly as well as privately. She’s just does not have a right to be free from criticism.
It’s easier to pick out the shithead bigots if one substitutes “black people”, “women”, or any other heretofore recognized minority for “gays” or “homosexuals”.
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:05:37pm |
re: #38 GunstarGreen
There are Americans in the year 2013 using the word ‘heresy’ unironically.
My fucking head just exploded.
Welcome to the year 1513.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:05:44pm |
re: #21 Varek Raith
I’ve watched all manner of zombie movies and played the entire Fallout series.
I’m good.
XD
You do realize that there’s no room in your local VaultTec vault, right?
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:05:47pm |
re: #23 Targetpractice
I guess she doesn’t mind having gay people experience ostracism from their families or religious communities or from acting on the desire to end one’s life. The critical thing is, Heidi’s opinion is becoming less popular. //
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:05:49pm |
re: #32 Gus
SCARY!
/
*Except the flannel shirt*
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:06:18pm |
re: #43 Targetpractice
You do realize that there’s no room in your local VaultTec vault, right?
Yep. Screw ‘em. I ain’t no guinea pig.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:06:45pm |
re: #16 Sionainn
Local talk show host, Heidi Harris, whining about the decision:
I get so sick and tired of hearing how these Christians are being persecuted. Ugh.
So someone has been telling her she can’t marry someone she loves, and if she does, they won’t receive the same benefits and considerations as other married couples?
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:16pm |
re: #43 Targetpractice
You do realize that there’s no room in your local VaultTec vault, right?
I made my own Vault… with blackjack and hookers.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:42pm |
@ggreenwald @Activist_Gal @chrislhayes You guess? You guess? Glad to see you sticking to your convictions…I guess.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 26, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:44pm |
I guess I’ve missed all the stories of conservatives, religious and otherwise, who feel so shamed of their feelings and beliefs they’ve opted for suicide. //
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:54pm |
re: #46 Varek Raith
Yep. Screw ‘em. I ain’t no guinea pig.
Well, it could be worse. We might instead get invaded by the Combine.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:57pm |
Ted Cruz on DOMA: Today’s Supreme Court decisions on marriage are a regrettable overreach against the will of the people.— Michael McAuliff (@mmcauliff) June 26, 2013
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:07:59pm |
Gohmert’s claims about the Treaty of Paris is a bit daffy, too.
The King of England is also part of the Church of England, and the were inseparable. Here’s a full transcript of the start of the treaty:
In the Name of the most Holy & undivided Trinity.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the Hearts of the most Serene and most Potent Prince George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, Arch- Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.. and of the United States of America, to forget all past Misunderstandings and Differences that have unhappily interrupted the good Correspondence and Friendship which they mutually wish to restore; […]
As if a throwaway formality at the top of an 18th century document which was broken by the UK later (in the war of 1812, whereas in the Treaty of Paris they agreed to not attack the US), really means the same thing today - regardless, the royal head of the Church was also called the Elector of the HOly Roman Empire. Does GOHMERT! still cling to that, too?
It speaks to how out of touch Gohmert et al are, that they refuse to admit how they cherry pick even the basics of their beliefs.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:08:26pm |
re: #38 GunstarGreen
There are Americans in the year 2013 using the word ‘heresy’ unironically.
My fucking head just exploded.
Apostate is also a concept fresh from the 3rd century.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:08:43pm |
re: #53 Lidane
I long for the day when the GOP stops and realizes “The People” are not strictly limited to their bugfuck insane party base.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:08:57pm |
re: #53 Lidane
Dear Ted,
Take a look at your own State last night and please shut your damn mouth.
Piss off,
Me
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:09:21pm |
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:09:44pm |
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:09:52pm |
re: #16 Sionainn
Remember, Christianity was born out of and is based on persecution. They must always be martyrs for something.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:10:08pm |
re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I have decided to reply to any and all wingnut whiners complaining about the SCOTUS rulings with a simple “HaHa!”
With or without a Nelson JPG?
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Varek Raith Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:10:13pm |
re: #57 Kragar
Dear Ted,
Take a look at your own State last night and please shut your damn mouth.
Piss off,
Me
I am thoroughly amused that sb5 went down after all. All that horrible, horrible optics for naught.
HAHA.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:10:23pm |
re: #38 GunstarGreen
There are Americans in the year 2013 using the word ‘heresy’ unironically.
My fucking head just exploded.
they are a bunch of albigensians
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:11:11pm |
re: #51 Bulworth
I guess I’ve missed all the stories of conservatives, religious and otherwise, who feel so shamed of their feelings and beliefs they’ve opted for suicide. //
I can pull fake anecdotes about persecution of Christians in the US leading to murder and suicide out of my ass all day long.
Actually, that hasn’t really happened, which demonstrates just how pathetic these claims of persecution are.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:11:12pm |
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:11:32pm |
re: #53 Lidane
What “people” might that be, Teddy?
Between this and the reactions to Romney losing in November, it becomes more and more clear how out of touch most Republicans are with this country. Get out of your gated community and meet some real Americans, Teddy.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:11:50pm |
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:12:05pm |
re: #68 Targetpractice
$22,500 per song? Jesus H. Christ!
Yep, that’s the number:
A jury ordered Providence, R.I., resident Joel Tenenbaum to pay $22,500 for each of 30 songs after the Recording Industry Association of America sued him on behalf of four record labels.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:12:44pm |
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:13:31pm |
re: #72 Targetpractice
Have I said “Fuck the RIAA” recently?
I just said it several more times upon reading the article.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:13:52pm |
re: #68 Targetpractice
$22,500 per song? Jesus H. Christ!
Yes, but 0.99 of each song goes directly to the artists.
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:13:54pm |
re: #63 Varek Raith
I am thoroughly amused that sb5 went down after all. All that horrible, horrible optics for naught.
HAHA.
That shit ain’t over yet; I wouldn’t put it past Perry to call another special session, so the TPGOPers can put a warmed-over SB5 at the head of the line.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:17pm |
re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg
What about jail time? Only a month in the public stocks for such behavior will save civilization. /
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:18pm |
Charisma: Satan Using Gay Marriage to Ban Straight Marriage
Charisma news editor Jennifer LeClaire writes today in her column, “Satan’s End-Time Strategy to Outlaw Traditional Marriage in Full Swing,” that “we are in the end times” as a “satanic agenda” will soon “mainstream gay marriage” and “eventually end” marriage between opposite sex couples.
Yes, just like allowing interracial marriages has led to same race marriages being banned. Its all so obvious now.
/
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:20pm |
Louie Gohmert being an idiot. What a shock.
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:26pm |
re: #72 Targetpractice
Have I said “Fuck the RIAA” recently?
Doing everything in their power to degrade the entirety of copyright law by their insane over-reaching.
It doesn’t help that US copyright is effectively perpetual.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:41pm |
re: #57 Kragar
Because it bears repeating:
The political savvy with which David Dewhurst has handled this filibuster explains why Ted Cruz is now a U.S. Senator— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) June 26, 2013
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lawhawk Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:48pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:51pm |
re: #77 Kragar
Charisma: Satan Using Gay Marriage to Ban Straight Marriage
Yes, just like allowing interracial marriages has led to same race marriages being banned. Its all so obvious now.
/
Uh no sorry but it doesn’t work that way. Please pickup a new card though.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:14:52pm |
re: #74 darthstar
Yes, but 0.99 of each song goes directly to the artists.
I read an article the other on some guy whose song has racked up like 1.5 million plays on I think it was Spotify or Pandora.
His total royalties for all those plays? About $46.
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dell*nix Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:15:26pm |
re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg
And how much of the fine will the artists get? If anything at all.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:15:57pm |
Supreme Court’s DOMA decision
this is the worst thing to ever happen in the 11th century
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Minor_L Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:15:57pm |
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:15:59pm |
“Satan’s End-Time Strategy to Outlaw Traditional Marriage in Full Swing,” that “we are in the end times” as a “satanic agenda” will soon “mainstream gay marriage” and “eventually end” marriage between opposite sex couples.
They keep saying this….
How exactly will SSM lead to ending hetero marriage? I wish just one of these folks would map this process out for us.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:16:32pm |
re: #84 dell*nix
And how much of the fine will the artists get? If anything at all.
< Fat Tony>
I’d say somewhere in the neighborhood of $0.
< /Fat Tony>
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:16:36pm |
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:16:46pm |
re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg
I read an article the other on some guy whose song has racked up like 1.5 million plays on I think it was Spotify or Pandora.
His total royalties for all those plays? About $46.
That was David Lowrey from Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven
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EPR-radar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:16:47pm |
re: #86 Minor_L
You mean “ICKY!” isn’t a decent argument?
//
Hey, don’t be dissing the only secular argument the anti gay marriage side has. //
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Velvet Elvis Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:17:40pm |
The next argument will be that climate change is real, but is the result of gays getting married, not CO2 emissions.
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:17:50pm |
Scalia’s dissent is pretty embarassing, but has anyone seen Alito’s yet?
The degree to which this question [the traditional view of marriage vs. the consent-based view] is intractable to typical judicial processes of decisionmaking was highlighted by the trial in Hollingsworth v. Perry. In that case, the trial judge, after receiving testimony from some expert witnesses, purported to make “findings of fact” on such questions as why marriage came to be, what marriage is, and the effect legalizing same-sex marriage would have on opposite-sex marriage.
At times, the trial reached the heights of parody, as when the trial judge questioned his ability to take into account the views of great thinkers of the past because they were unavailable to testify in person in his courtroom.
And, if this spectacle were not enough, some professors of constitutional law have argued that we are bound to accept the trial judge’s findings—including those on major philosophical questions and predictions about the future—unless they are “clearly erroneous.” Only an arrogant legal culture that has lost all appreciation of its own limitations could take such a suggestion seriously.
“Arrogant legal culture”…!
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:18:12pm |
re: #87 Bulworth
They keep saying this….
How exactly will SSM lead to ending hetero marriage? I wish just one of these folks would map this process out for us.
My plain old hetero marriage in the state of CA is actually worth more to me today because it now any consenting adult has the right to choose their partner.
We couldn’t be blatant about it at our wedding because both of us have our share of conservative relatives, but one of the readings was from Perry versus Schwarzenegger, on what marriage means in society.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:18:26pm |
REVEALED: “Satan's End-Time Strategy to Outlaw Traditional Marriage” (hint: involves gay people) http://t.co/vlU9bMItFk— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) June 26, 2013
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:18:41pm |
Worse than Thomas? Believe it.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:19:17pm |
shouldn’t these people be out back building arks or something?
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Interesting Times Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:19:35pm |
Let's remind ourselves how obvious marriage equality is: Even this terrible, awful, plutocratic, obscenely partisan court figured it out.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) June 26, 2013
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:19:39pm |
DOMA ruling: Another example of how freedom for gays is freedom for everyone.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:20:32pm |
Derp:
In other news, the SCOTUS has ruled 5-4 that the earth's gravitational pull is unconstitutional. Orders God to reverse it…— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) June 26, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:21:12pm |
Rep. Duckworth Slams Businessman Over Military Disability Claim
A congressional investigation found that Braulio Castillo, President and CEO of Strong Castle, Inc., filed a claim for service-disabled veteran status in 2012 entitling him to lucrative business contracts. Castillo cited an ankle injury he sustained while at the U.S. Military Academy Preparatory School in 1984.
Duckworth, who lost both her legs while serving in the Iraq War, was angered by Castillo’s claim.
“I’m sorry that twisting your ankle in high school has now come back to hurt you in such a painful way, if also opportune for you to gain this status for your business as you were trying to compete for contracts,” Duckworth said.
“Shame on you, Mr. Castillo,” she added. “Shame on you. You may not have broken any laws … but you certainly broke the trust of this great nation. You broke the trust of veterans.”
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:21:15pm |
re: #93 dragonath
Oh, so now there’s a “traditional” based view and a “consent” based view? I take it ‘consent’ is bad in this scenario? Are these distinctions in the Constitution? The distinction also sounds strikingly like someone making shit up.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:21:21pm |
re: #93 dragonath
Scalia’s dissent is pretty embarassing, but has anyone seen Alito’s yet?
“Arrogant legal culture”…!
This sort of shit should be grounds for having Alito ejected from the bench.
The only thing he’s got in that whole pile of bullshit is that it’s murky for the judiciary to try to comment on the origins and purpose of marriage, but that doesn’t mean a single thing because it’s irrelevant.
The question is: Are there federal benefits attached to getting ‘married’ to another consenting adult human, whatever that word may mean? If so, you can’t discriminate on basis of gender.
Case closed.
Into the sun. Directly into the sun, all of them.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:21:27pm |
re: #94 klys and whatnot
My plain old hetero marriage in the state of CA is actually worth more to me today because it now any consenting adult has the right to choose their partner.
We couldn’t be blatant about it at our wedding because both of us have our share of conservative relatives, but one of the readings was from Perry versus Schwarzenegger, on what marriage means in society.
“Hasta La Vista, Perry.”
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:21:52pm |
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:22:11pm |
re: #97 piratedan
shouldn’t these people be out back building arks or something?
It wont help, because:
The DOMA ruling means all life as you know it will stop instantaneously and every molecule in your body will explode at the speed of light.
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:22:42pm |
re: #77 Kragar
Yup. My fiancee and I decided to end our engagement because gay marriage destroys the sanctity of traditional marriage. Instead, me, this junkie I met at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and a horse are all going to get freaky tonight.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:22:57pm |
I forgot what a powerful and authoritative role our U.S. Constitution grants to “tradition”. //
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:22:57pm |
re: #100 Lidane
Water, fire, air, and DERP…
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:23:08pm |
re: #103 GunstarGreen
This sort of shit should be grounds for having Alito ejected from the bench.
The only thing he’s got in that whole pile of bullshit is that it’s murky for the judiciary to try to comment on the origins and purpose of marriage, but that doesn’t mean a single thing because it’s irrelevant.
The question is: Are there federal benefits attached to getting ‘married’ to another consenting adult human, whatever that word may mean? If so, you can’t discriminate on basis of gender.
Case closed.
Into the sun. Directly into the sun, all of them.
The dissents are flailing about because they, like the folks who argued against this, cannot bring religion into it as a reason to block same-sex marriage.
But it’s behind it.
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lawhawk Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:24:26pm |
re: #96 dragonath
Worse than Thomas? Believe it.
Alito was fine with creating an elementary right for the father to bury his son in peace (without Westboro yakking away), and therefore abrogate the First Amendment in the process.
A right that doesn’t exist anywhere.
That was apparently okay with him, but extending an already existing right (equal rights under the law - Equal Protection Clause) to gays and lesbians? That’s a bridge too far for him?
What that, along with the commentary about Scalia and Roberts from this week, shows that judicial activism is alive and well on both sides of the aisle and they’re more than willing to invent new rights when it suits them, and more than willing to condemn others on the Bench for doing the same.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:24:35pm |
re: #108 Bulworth
I forgot what a powerful and authoritative role our U.S. Constitution grants to “tradition”. //
Exactly. Show me one stinking line in the entire document where it affords special consideration to ‘tradition’ as the basis for anything, let alone the law.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:25:05pm |
Wal-Mart feeling the Paula Deen love.
Paula Deen fans are losing it all over Walmart's Facebook page, and it's just getting started http://t.co/dDLCMz1Awx— Business Insider (@businessinsider) June 26, 2013
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:25:07pm |
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:25:12pm |
re: #110 klys and whatnot
The dissents are flailing about because they, like the folks who argued against this, cannot bring religion into it as a reason to block same-sex marriage.
But it’s behind it.
And I should note, although I haven’t looked at the opinions, I doubt Sotomayor’s dissent on the Prop 8 ruling was in this category - I suspect she wanted to rule on the merits.
I’m just luxuriating in knowing that the bigots can suck eggs.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:25:41pm |
Did he actually begin that clip by quoting Solomon, “the wisest man in history”, who had hundreds of wives and hundreds more concubines?
Irony is truly dead.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:26:11pm |
re: #107 Ian G.
Yup. My fiancee and I decided to end our engagement because gay marriage destroys the sanctity of traditional marriage. Instead, me, this junkie I met at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and a horse are all going to get freaky tonight.
///////////////
“There was a moment last night, when she was sandwiched between the two Finnish dwarves and the Maori tribesmen, where I thought, “Wow, I could really spend the rest of my life with this woman”. “
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lawhawk Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:26:19pm |
re: #107 Ian G.
Yup. My fiancee and I decided to end our engagement because gay marriage destroys the sanctity of traditional marriage. Instead, me, this junkie I met at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and a horse are all going to get freaky tonight.
///////////////
On an escalator outside Gate 245 no less with a case of Mad Dog 40/40. Because Heartland Brewery downstairs is too upscale.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:26:21pm |
I miss the days of wingnuts arguing for American Exceptionalism as contrasted with “what other countries do, i.e. ‘tradition’ “.
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:26:49pm |
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:26:54pm |
re: #113 darthstar
Wal-Mart feeling the Paula Deen love.
Seriously, though…you gotta love the threats of boycott…where else are those stupid fucks going to shop?
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:27:07pm |
BTW, that Alito quote is being bounced around the right wing press today.
Like I was thinking earlier, it’s funny to see people who were heralding this court’s position on civil rights yesterday calling this decision “disturbing”.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:27:14pm |
re: #116 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Yup. Pure wingnut, with zero self-awareness.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:27:35pm |
When did we go from American Exceptionalism (America FuckYeah) to “Our laws should be what everyone else has always done all over the world”?
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:28:22pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:28:27pm |
A weird exchange with Tony Pierce, who insisted on misinterpreting what I wrote about Snowden today:
The 2009 chat logs published by Ars Technica reveal another huge discrepancy in Snowden's claims http://t.co/hjxlpWtxbe— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 26, 2013
As someone who in 2009 was writing things polar opposite as you are now, @Green_Footballs, you may wanna give Snowden a break on this one.— Tony Pierce (@busblog) June 26, 2013
@busblog That's not the point - he said he was already planning to leak in 2008, but in 2009 he said leakers “should be shot in the balls.”— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 26, 2013
My point is you, @Green_Footballs, are the poster boy for “shitty shit happened, so I changed my stance”. No one else should get that pass?— Tony Pierce (@busblog) June 26, 2013
@busblog That's not the point I'm making at all. Please read what I'm writing.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 26, 2013
Conversations with Greensnow supporters always seem to go like this. You end up buried in a pile of straw men.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:28:49pm |
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:28:58pm |
re: #121 darthstar
Seriously, though…you gotta love the threats of boycott…where else are those stupid fucks going to shop?
I went to K-Mart today to buy something and they had Paula Deen kitchenware. Good god, is there any celebrity endorsement deal that they can’t screw up?
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:29:14pm |
re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg
Suddenly I find myself imagining a government facility that would be used for such a purpose:
- Immaculately designed interior
- Large closets
- Village people music
I’m reminded of the (possibly apocryphal) exchange of bathroom graffiti I heard about in High School:
(1) My mother made me a homosexual
(2) If I give her the yarn, will she make me one too?
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EmmaAnne Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:29:37pm |
re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg
According to the article:
But alas, the court found his conduct was “egregious” because he’d shared the songs for years even after being warned multiple times not to.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:30:04pm |
re: #128 dragonath
I went to K-Mart today to buy something and they had Paula Deen kitchenware. Good god, is there any celebrity endorsement that they can’t screw up?
Don’t buy it.
It won’t brown your meats.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:30:07pm |
@joshtpm @PerryStein There had to be a down-side.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 26, 2013
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:30:57pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
A weird exchange with Tony Pierce, who insisted on misinterpreting what I wrote about Snowden today:
Conversations with Greensnow supporters always seem to go like this. You end up buried in a pile of straw men.
DARVO in full effect with that one…
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The Mountain That Blogs Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:31:02pm |
re: #96 dragonath
At present, no one—including social scientists, philosophers, and historians—can predict with any certainty what the long-term ramifications of widespread acceptance of same-sex marriage will be.
That’s from Alito’s dissent. Substitute interracial marriage, integration, or pretty much anything for “same-sex marriage” and it wouldn’t look at all out of place coming from George Wallace.
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:31:04pm |
re: #127 Kragar
Lets hit the Atomic Wrangler instead.
“Make a brief stop at the Atomic Wrangler, where the booze is cheaper, the tables are friendly, and the women are just like the booze!”
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:31:39pm |
You end up buried in a pile of straw men.
Another cool feature of libertarianism.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:31:54pm |
Also, I’m pretty sure I never wrote - or even thought - that anyone should be “shot in the balls.”
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Interesting Times Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:32:37pm |
The only thing “grassroots” about the Tea Party is their racism & bigotry.— Path2Enlightenment (@Path2Enlighten) June 26, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:05pm |
re: #135 Jack Burton
“Make a brief stop at the Atomic Wrangler, where the booze is cheaper, the tables are friendly, and the women are just like the booze!”
“Hungry? Thirsty? Horny? The Atomic Wrangler has got you covered!”
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:07pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:33pm |
re: #97 piratedan
shouldn’t these people be out back building arks or something?
They aren’t due to fear of those homosexual termites.
//
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:37pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
Also, I’m pretty sure I never wrote - or even thought - that anyone should be “shot in the balls.”
What about crushing balls while playing guitar?
/metalocalypse
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:37pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
I advocate for punching certain people in the neck…
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:40pm |
re: #134 The Mountain That Blogs
That’s from Alito’s dissent. Substitute interracial marriage, integration, or pretty much anything for “same-sex marriage” and it wouldn’t look at all out of place coming from George Wallace.
Pretty much what I said in my #40.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:53pm |
re: #106 Jack Burton
It wont help, because:
so this can all be solved if we just play some Bobby McFerrin then?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:33:54pm |
re: #113 darthstar
Wal-Mart feeling the Paula Deen love.
Maybe they could continue to sell her stuff, just only for 24 hours a week?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:34:19pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
A weird exchange with Tony Pierce, who insisted on misinterpreting what I wrote about Snowden today:
Conversations with Greensnow supporters always seem to go like this. You end up buried in a pile of straw men.
Right, this isn’t about Snowden having a change of heart. It’s about him claiming that he intended to leak the items in 2008 but this is evidence of him in 2009 condemning leakage. It’s possible he was spouting off crap but it does raise fair questions to ask.
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Interesting Times Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:34:24pm |
Smackdown FTW:
Tx Lieutenant Gov whines on Facebook & gets awesome reply! #SB5 pic.twitter.com/qEqGrEB5mc— Sweet Woodlands (@sweetwoodlands) June 26, 2013
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Blue Point Nines 09 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:35:14pm |
Gohmert is pushing for massive funding for NASA flights to Mars. / (I think.) He’ll be on all the sane shows. Beck, Rush, Hannity, anything with Fox in it…..Him and Michele Brokeback will now hold hands and walk the walk of deranged poodles.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:35:39pm |
How long before federal agents haul pastors out of the pulpit?— toddstarnes (@toddstarnes) June 26, 2013
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Mattand Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:35:43pm |
re: #107 Ian G.
Yup. My fiancee and I decided to end our engagement because gay marriage destroys the sanctity of traditional marriage. Instead, me, this junkie I met at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and a horse are all going to get freaky tonight.
///////////////
Make sure you wear a condom. Or twelve.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:35:55pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
You also didn’t work for or leak classified national security documents.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:35:58pm |
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:36:15pm |
I’d tell Louie to shove it up his ass, but he’d probably enjoy it too much.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:37:31pm |
re: #151 Charles Johnson
Fucking martyr complex. Why, because before DOMA got overturned, people were being arrested for advocating SSM. Bunch of assholes who want to persecute people but want to convince themselves that they’re the victims. I’d love for STarnes and those like him to tell the elderly lesbian plaintiff that she’s oppressing them.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:37:35pm |
(Stalkers immediately start searching through every word I’ve ever written for something they can twist to mean I REALLY DID call for shooting someone in the balls.)
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:37:39pm |
re: #151 Charles Johnson
About the same time terminal DERP becomes a jailable offense.
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dragonath Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:37:39pm |
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Sionainn Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:37:59pm |
re: #29 Bulworth
The “Law” will “censor” her?
That’s apparently what she believes. She also thinks that Tim Teblow and others who are open about their faith drive atheists nuts. She’s completely clueless.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:01pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
Also, I’m pretty sure I never wrote - or even thought - that anyone should be “shot in the balls.”
I knew a guy once whose ex-wife shot him in the balls…with a shotgun (for cheating on her). It was in Montana. How did the community handle it? They mounted a deer’s ass with the tail up on the wall in the bar (Two Dot Bar, Two Dot, MT) and put a red blinking light in the butt-hole, and then engraved his name on a plaque next to the mount.
Still funny shit, twenty years later.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:02pm |
re: #159 dragonath
Rep. Tim Huelskamp to file constitutional amendment to restore DOMA
Well that didn’t take too long.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:05pm |
What Wendy Davis's dramatic filibuster teaches us about leadership: http://t.co/o45jd0TjER— Fast Company (@FastCompany) June 26, 2013
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:32pm |
re: #151 Charles Johnson
How long before federal agents haul pastors out of the pulpit?
They already do it when the pastors are caught trafficking in child porn, running real estate scams, evading taxes etc.
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:38pm |
re: #159 dragonath
Rep. Tim Huelskamp to file constitutional amendment to restore DOMA
Because Congress doesn’t have anything else to do.
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:41pm |
re: #126 Charles Johnson
A weird exchange with Tony Pierce, who insisted on misinterpreting what I wrote about Snowden today:
Conversations with Greensnow supporters always seem to go like this. You end up buried in a pile of straw men.
My point is you!!
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:38:55pm |
re: #159 dragonath
Rep. Tim Huelskamp to file constitutional amendment to restore DOMA
Prohibition aside, when was the last time we passed a Constitutional amendment in this country to deny rights?
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:39:02pm |
How long before federal agents haul pastors out of the pulpit?
The desperate search continues for victimization scenarios that will stick.
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Jack Burton Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:39:32pm |
re: #151 Charles Johnson
The DERP can have a profound influence on the weak minded.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:39:44pm |
Every time someone declares beastiality or pedophilia as the inevitable result of marriage equality, I sorta think they're secretly hopin'.— Greg Knauss (@gknauss) June 26, 2013
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:40:12pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
Also, I’m pretty sure I
neverwrote- or even thought -that anyone should be “shot in the balls.”
Found it!
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:40:26pm |
re: #159 dragonath
On what grounds? “Disappointment?”
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:40:51pm |
re: #151 Charles Johnson
This is the problem with not understanding how the 1st amendment works. These clowns who have spent their whole lives trying to force right-wing Christianity into every nook and cranny of the public sphere are expecting blowback. No, it doesn’t work that way. See, the 1st amendment is a 2-way street. In addition to me not having to see crap like “you shall not covet your neighbor’s female servant or ox or ass” when I walk into court, you don’t have to accept my secular values in your Church. You should probably be thankful for that
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:41:06pm |
David Wong is fucking awesome: “A 30 Second Guide to How the Gay Marriage Ruling Affects You.”
Read more: cracked.com
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:41:27pm |
re: #169 Jack Burton
The DERP can have a profound influence on the weak minded.
So one powerful in the ways methods becomes a DERP Lord and a master of the FARCE? And they think that since DOMA was struck down it will soon arise more powerful than before?
I think not.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:41:37pm |
re: #170 Vicious Babushka
Hardline religious folks? Especially powerful, old, white, male christian ones?
There’s considerable historical precedent for them to be diddling children, or other men in bathrooms.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:42:19pm |
@Green_Footballs Generation gap: young people vs people that don't know you can use the internet to mess around, joke and lie anonymously.— M.B. van der Woude (@MVDW90) June 26, 2013
Heh - right. I don’t understand that the Internet can be used anonymously to troll. Nope. Never heard that. These young whipper-snappers and their newfangled information superhighway.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:43:12pm |
re: #167 Lidane
Prohibition aside, when was the last time we passed a Constitutional amendment in this country to deny rights?
Never as far as I know. That’s why this is doomed to fail. It failed even when the R’s had control of both Houses and the presidency back in 2004.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:43:40pm |
re: #165 Kragar
Because Congress doesn’t have anything else to do.
It’ll make a change from abolishing ObamaCare.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:44:47pm |
re: #180 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
It’ll make a change from abolishing ObamaCare.
“See, we’re focused on other issues too.” I imagine Boehner will just nod and be okay with it since he knows if he tries to put a stop to it, he’ll lose his position and Boehner cares more about his power than principle.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:44:50pm |
@MVDW90 You young whipper-snappers and your newfangled information superhighway.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 26, 2013
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danarchy Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:01pm |
re: #167 Lidane
Prohibition aside, when was the last time we passed a Constitutional amendment in this country to deny rights?
Prohibition? Worked out great…
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:19pm |
re: #173 Ian G.
This is the problem with not understanding how the 1st amendment works. These clowns who have spent their whole lives trying to force right-wing Christianity into every nook and cranny of the public sphere are expecting blowback. No, it doesn’t work that way. See, the 1st amendment is a 2-way street. In addition to me not having to see crap like “you shall not covet your neighbor’s female servant or ox or ass” when I walk into court, you don’t have to accept my secular values in your Church. You should probably be thankful for that
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:20pm |
OUTRAGE!
Live streaming: President Obama and the First Family arrive in Senegal http://t.co/82uFkuxzqt— TheObamaDiary.com (@TheObamaDiary) June 26, 2013
How soon before some chucklehead starts bleating that POTUS timed his arrival in Africa with the SCOTUS decisions on DOMA and Prop 8 being handed down so no one would notice all the money he was spending on his trip?
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:23pm |
re: #180 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
It’ll make a change from abolishing ObamaCare.
I like that he’s trying to make it Constitutional amendment. That will just fly thru ratification by the states.
///
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:53pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
Heh - right. I don’t understand that the Internet can be used anonymously to troll. Nope. Never heard that. These young whipper-snappers and their newfangled information superhighway.
That’s a load of shit excuse if I ever saw one. Keeping on trying to explain your pal’s inconsistencies, Snowden fans because it makes him look worse not better.
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calochortus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:45:59pm |
re: #129 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
I’m reminded of the (possibly apocryphal) exchange of bathroom graffiti I heard about in High School:
(1) My mother made me a homosexual
(2) If I give her the yarn, will she make me one too?
Don’t know about the sexual orientation, but here you go…
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:46:09pm |
re: #159 dragonath
Rep. Tim Huelskamp to file constitutional amendment to restore DOMA
And it has as much chance of succeeding as getting the proverbial glass of ice water in hell.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:46:36pm |
So Cantor is the only Republican leader on record for being open to amending VRA, so far: http://t.co/V5rznPBjkt— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) June 26, 2013
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Eventual Carrion Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:46:46pm |
re: #107 Ian G.
Yup. My fiancee and I decided to end our engagement because gay marriage destroys the sanctity of traditional marriage. Instead, me, this junkie I met at the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and a horse are all going to get freaky tonight.
///////////////
I’d make the horse wear protection.
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:47:46pm |
re: #138 Charles Johnson
Also, I’m pretty sure I never wrote - or even thought - that anyone should be “shot in the balls.”
Reading comprehension never entered into the equation before he decided to go all indignant on you.
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chadu Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:48:14pm |
re: #174 Kragar
David Wong is fucking awesome: “A 30 Second Guide to How the Gay Marriage Ruling Affects You.”
Read more: cracked.com
Page that!
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:48:30pm |
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:49:16pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
Heh - right. I don’t understand that the Internet can be used anonymously to troll. Nope. Never heard that. These young whipper-snappers and their newfangled information superhighway.
Young people today are just a bunch of no good for nothing panty waist ne’er-do-wells!
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:49:19pm |
What amuses me are the idiots who think DOMA being overturned means opponents of ssm are now going to be arrested. Uh just no guys. Sorry, I hated DOMA but I never believed that it restricted my ability to advocate for marriage equality. PS you guys look like real losers claiming that the overturning of a law that restricts people’s rights is somehow persecuting you. No one says that your church has to perform gay weddings. Grow up and deal with it like adults instead of always likening your opponents to Nazis because you have fantasies about being victims.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:50:38pm |
re: #195 Gus
Young people today are just a bunch of no good for nothing panty waist ne’er-do-wells!
Hoodlums and layabouts. Lolly-gaggers.
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:52:16pm |
re: #197 Charles Johnson
Hoodlums and layabouts. Lolly-gaggers.
Pool halls and rock and roll music are destroying the fabric of America!
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:52:53pm |
re: #198 Gus
Pool halls and rock and roll music are destroying the fabric of America!
sinful dancing and demon rum.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:53:01pm |
re: #197 Charles Johnson
Hoodlums and layabouts. Lolly-gaggers.
Don’t forget to use the term “mud-sills”.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:53:21pm |
Limbaugh's actual response to a gay caller: “Nobody in this country has ever been denied the right to get married” http://t.co/bk8PdNHb9Z— Media Matters (@mmfa) June 26, 2013
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Mattand Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:54:24pm |
re: #178 Charles Johnson
Heh - right. I don’t understand that the Internet can be used anonymously to troll. Nope. Never heard that. These young whipper-snappers and their newfangled information superhighway.
You know what you should do to prove him wrong? Start a website!
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:55:28pm |
Could someone please remind this yutz that there is a concept called consent out there? Animals can’t legally consent to marriage, or to anything else. People are not going to be able to marry their dog now:
Rand Paul is the kind of principled libertarian who fears DOMA repeal will lead to interspecies marriage: http://t.co/vwvK7MAMIl— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 26, 2013
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:55:31pm |
re: #201 Lidane
Oh really Rush? Yeah that’s why your pals in the GOP worked their asses off to ban it. Really, I understand you’re pissy about the court not ruling your way but please be honest at least about what you and your ideology were standing for. Also talk to Ted Olson, he may disagree with you and he knows more about law in his little finger than you know in your fat head.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:56:59pm |
re: #203 Lidane
Could someone please remind this yutz that there is a concept called consent out there? Animals can’t legally consent to marriage, or to anything else. People are not going to be able to marry their dog now:
He’s as hopeless if not more so than his old man. And the way him and Rubio act on this issue are why I am not hopeful at all for the younger generation in the GOP on this issue. Hell, I have more hope in Jerry Ford and Barry Goldwater and those guys would be over 100 now if they were still with us.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:58:55pm |
Really Rand Paul go ahead and tell the plantiff of the Prop 8 case who was together with her partner for practically 50 years that her relationship being legally sanctioned would be like legalizing bestiality and you’ll see what a ridiculous fuckwad you are. Fucker has some nerve.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 1:59:53pm |
re: #197 Charles Johnson
Hoodlums and layabouts. Lolly-gaggers.
eating skittles and drinkin their iced tea….. hey wait a minute….
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:00:02pm |
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:00:12pm |
Rand Paul learned how to be a horrible person from his dad.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:00:42pm |
I just called Senator Wendy Davis’s office to let them know any time she wants to run for national office I’ll volunteer for her. Hell, for her I might go to Texas for a few weeks, and I don’t say that lightly.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:01:11pm |
re: #209 jaunte
Rand Paul learned how to be a horrible person from his dad.
Indeed. But I appreciate that Rand is more open about his bigotry than his Dad. His dad tries to hid “Well I didn’t write it!” even though it was a newsletter in his name.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:01:13pm |
re: #203 Lidane
Could someone please remind this yutz that there is a concept called consent out there? Animals can’t legally consent to marriage, or to anything else. People are not going to be able to marry their dog now:
well he should know, he’s a fucking horses-ass
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:01:51pm |
Reaction To DOMA Decision Measured At Stunning 400 MegaGohmerts
unit measuring stupidity and ignorance may need to be recalibrated
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:02:15pm |
re: #206 HappyWarrior
Really Rand Paul go ahead and tell the plantiff of the
Prop 8DOMA case who was together with her partner for practically 50 years that her relationship being legally sanctioned would be like legalizing bestiality and you’ll see what a ridiculous fuckwad you are. Fucker has some nerve.
FTFY
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Kragar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:02:23pm |
re: #213 engineer cat
Reaction To DOMA Decision Measured At Stunning 400 MegaGohmerts
unit measuring stupidity and ignorance may need to be recalibrated
My scouter is reading over 9000.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:02:37pm |
Glenn Beck makes more money per year than Lady Gaga, Oprah and Rush Limbaugh.
Forbes’ annual list of the world’s Most Powerful Celebrities, which was published today, has become an annual reminder of just how well Beck is doing out on the ideological fringes of the media industry. Last time around, Beck was making $80 million a year; this year, he’s making $90 million. (Limbaugh, by contrast, makes $66 million, down from $69 million.)
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:02:44pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:02:50pm |
re: #210 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I just called Senator Wendy Davis’s office to let them know any time she wants to run for national office I’ll volunteer for her. Hell, for her I might go to Texas for a few weeks, and I don’t say that lightly.
I read her biography last night. Raised by a single mother. And then was one herself. Put herself through Harvard Law School. Clearly a smart woman. If I’m the DSCC or recruiting for Dem governor candidates, I’d give her a serious look and call.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:03:17pm |
re: #215 Kragar
Muad-dib, we have DERPsign the likes that God himself has never seen……
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:03:20pm |
re: #216 Charles Johnson
He’s crying all the way to the bank.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:03:30pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:03:34pm |
re: #216 Charles Johnson
Glenn Beck makes more money per year than Lady Gaga, Oprah and Rush Limbaugh.
Crying about Hitler all the way to the bank to revise an old phrase.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:03:41pm |
re: #210 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I just called Senator Wendy Davis’s office to let them know any time she wants to run for national office I’ll volunteer for her. Hell, for her I might go to Texas for a few weeks, and I don’t say that lightly.
If she runs for anything statewide or nationally, I’m giving her both my money and my time. She is awesome.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:04:11pm |
Gun target company debuts a mannequin that bleeds and appears to reference Rev. Al Sharpton: http://t.co/hmK5kMKNix— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 26, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:04:46pm |
re: #220 freetoken
He’s crying all the way to the bank.
That phrase has always been funny to me, since people don’t actually get happier with more wealth. People get miserable when they’re poor, but above that level happiness isn’t associated with more money.
Glenn Beck seems to be a man deeply uncomfortable with himself to an almost pathetic degree. Even though he’s such a colossal asshole and moron he makes me feel sorry for him every time I see him.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:06:25pm |
re: #225 Lidane
Oh ho the clever racists said that “Al was a Sharp guy” so you can’t claim they said it was Al Sharpton how clever those racists are.
For fuck’s sake.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:06:31pm |
re: #226 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That phrase has always been funny to me, since people don’t actually get happier with more wealth. People get miserable when they’re poor, but above that level happiness isn’t associated with more money.
Glenn Beck seems to be a man deeply uncomfortable with himself to an almost pathetic degree. Even though he’s such a colossal asshole and moron he makes me feel sorry for him every time I see him.
I believe it was a Liberace one after he won a lawsuit for libel but yeah I agree, seems that Beck is exactly what you say he is. I too almost feel sorry for him even if his whole thing is an act because it’s one of the most degrading forms of public theater.
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piratedan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:06:33pm |
re: #222 HappyWarrior
Crying about Hitler all the way to the bank to revise an old phrase.
no one said that the big con wasn’t lucrative….
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:07:52pm |
re: #229 piratedan
no one said that the big con wasn’t lucrative….
Course not but Glenn owes Obama a thank you card. No way Glenn would be making this kind of dough in a McCain or Romney administration.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:09:40pm |
re: #216 Charles Johnson
Glenn Beck makes more money per year than Lady Gaga, Oprah and Rush Limbaugh.
how much tastier does that make his hamburgers?
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:10:33pm |
This was inevitable:
BREAKING: Texas Governor Rick Perry just called another special session, anti-abortion bill will likely pass then via @ArletteSaenz #SB5— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) June 26, 2013
Because Texas doesn’t have any other problems to deal with.
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:11:21pm |
MT @TXPoliticsBlog: Perry calls for a 2nd special session, starting Monday. Issues: abortion, transportation, capital punishment.
— Houston Chronicle (@HoustonChron) June 26, 2013
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:11:59pm |
re: #230 HappyWarrior
They just don’t get it do they?
Oh, they get it alright. Racism and hatred sells in this current political climate and they are cashing in on it. Wouldn’t surprise me if they came out with a target that looks like to plaintiff(s) in the prop 8 case.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:12:12pm |
re: #234 jaunte
Here we go again.
And now I’m fully expecting Perry and the rest of the GOP assholes to hold the vote behind closed doors and for them to bar cameras and spectators.
The GOP learned the hard way last night that people will fight for their rights in this state. They won’t let it happen again.
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:12:55pm |
re: #235 jaunte
And the warmed-over SB5 will surely be first on the playlist, just to be sure that the Dems don’t have any way in hell to stop it.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:13:01pm |
Wasn’t Glenn Beck whining very recently that he was running out of money?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:13:38pm |
re: #239 Charles Johnson
Wasn’t Glenn Beck whining very recently that he was running out of money?
Tissues can be very expensive I guess.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:14:01pm |
BTW, that statement of Gohmert’s and this one from Bachmann:
Marriage was created by the hand of God. No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted. For thousands of years of recorded human history, no society has defended the legal standard of marriage as anything other than between man and woman. Only since 2000 have we seen a redefinition of this foundational unit of society in various nations. Today, the U.S. Supreme Court decided to join the trend, despite the clear will of the people’s representatives through DOMA. What the Court has done will undermine the best interest of children and the best interests of the United States.
Are bigoted and wrong in much more than just one way.
Yes, there is the gay-hate, but the depth of the bigotry hardly stops (or even started) there.
What leaps out at me is their view that the very definition of “civilization” they use is one that believes that the only civilizations that existed was the (mostly fantasy) one they accept - that in the Bible.
They are true literalists, not only believing that the Bible is inerrant in every word, but if something is not in the Bible then it didn’t exist. Most of Asia, most of Africa, all the Americas and Oceania - just don’t exist in their concept of civilization (which also shows their inherent racism, btw.)
And historically, marriage, where it was recorded, often included women merely as property. They were worth more than cows or goats, but still were traded as such. And men often had more than one wife, or a wife and concubines.
This amazing blindness to true human history will probably never be made an issue, as most of the screaming will be over the ghey, but I wishe someone would make more of an issue of how provincial an backwards Gohmert, King, Bachmann, et. al. truly are.
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Bulworth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:14:47pm |
re: #233 Lidane
Perry sure is serious about “protecting women’s health”. Will they vote on expanding Medicaid, too? //
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AlexRogan Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:14:52pm |
re: #239 Charles Johnson
Wasn’t Glenn Beck whining very recently that he was running out of money?
Hookers, blow, and VapoRub costs a lot these days, donchaknow?
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:15:24pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:15:34pm |
re: #241 freetoken
BTW, that statement of Gohmert’s and this one from Bachmann:
Are bigoted and wrong in much more than just one way.
Yes, there is the gay-hate, but the depth of the bigotry hardly stops (or even started) there.
What leaps out at me is their view that the very definition of “civilization” they use is one that believes that the only civilizations that existed was the (mostly fantasy) one they accept - that in the Bible.
They are true literalists, not only believing that the Bible is inerrant in every word, but if something is not in the Bible then it didn’t exist. Most of Asia, most of Africa, all the Americas and Oceania - just don’t exist in their concept of civilization (which also shows their inherent racism, btw.)
And historically, marriage, where it was recorded, often included women merely as property. They were worth more than cows or goats, but still were traded as such. And men often had more than one wife, or a wife and concubines.
This amazing blindness to true human history will probably never be made an issue, as most of the screaming will be over the ghey, but I wishe someone would make more of an issue of how provincial an backwards Gohmert, King, Bachmann, et. al. truly are.
The best interests of children? Maybe you should talk to my cousin’s daughters Pat. They’re being raised by two fathers and doing just fine without your bigoted ass telling them that their dads are sinful heathens.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:15:40pm |
re: #195 Gus
Young people today are just a bunch of no good for nothing panty waist ne’er-do-wells!
Thats the exact same thing my father said to me
And his farther to him
and his father to him
and ,,,,,,,,,
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:16:32pm |
re: #226 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That phrase has always been funny to me, since people don’t actually get happier with more wealth. People get miserable when they’re poor, but above that level happiness isn’t associated with more money.
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:16:49pm |
re: #238 AlexRogan
And the warmed-over SB5 will surely be first on the playlist, just to be sure that the Dems don’t have any way in hell to stop it.
Texas abortion rates have been trending down in the last 20 years.
guttmacher.org
But of course it’s a crisis if it rallies the base.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:17:16pm |
re: #239 Charles Johnson
He said he was bleeding money, I think. Meant he was spending it hand over fist. Theme parks can get expensive, I suppose.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:18:04pm |
re: #235 jaunte
Just once, it would be nice if Goodhair could focus on the real issues affecting Texas instead of on his 2016 prospects.
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Ian G. Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:19:11pm |
re: #221 NJDhockeyfan
Oliver Stone, Noam Chomsky, Tom Hayden Urge President Correa to Grant Snowden Asylum
Not Castro? I figured he was more these dinosaurs’ style than Correa.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:19:21pm |
I’d take them more seriously on wanting to reduce abortion if they actually supported programs that helped poor and unwed mothers, stopped slut slamming, stopped trying to use the system to make women who do choose to get abortions feel guilty as hell about it, stopped with this absurd subsistence only crap, and above all showed that they cared about the child in life. All they show is they want to control women and make women who choose to get abortions feel like terrible people. When the bill’s sponsor is going around spreading falsehoods like rape kits cause abortions. You’re attacking women and rape victims and you’re showing that your cause sucks.
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jaunte Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:19:40pm |
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:20:00pm |
Last time around, Beck was making $80 million a year; this year, he’s making $90 million
i wonder what the self-righteous little prick does with it all
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:20:24pm |
re: #252 Ian G.
Not Castro? I figured he was more these dinosaur’s style than Correa.
Correa is younger than the brothers Castro. I guess they see Ecuador as a
safe haven in the longer run than they do CUba.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:20:30pm |
Nov 7, 2012: This network, this company is funded by me and by you. That’s it. […] I thought we’d have more time and I’m telling you we’re going to run out of time. I need to double our subscriptions. […] I am not doing this to get rich. Believe me I don’t think money’s going to be worth an awful lot very long. […] If you haven’t subscribed, I need you to go to theblaze.com/TV and sign up now. Please. Please. Please. Right now about 300,000 people keep this network up and running, and may God richly bless your sacrifice.
Already I’ve lost quite a tidy sum, in fact figures that I never thought I would earn in my lifetime, let alone lose
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:20:38pm |
@JackofKent Never criticise the @wikileaks bubble of self-importance. pic.twitter.com/GSBHpVrCAT— Nick Boles (@GeneralBoles) June 26, 2013
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:20:50pm |
re: #254 jaunte
Which are zero and zip.
Yep when GOP primary voters think you’re too stupid, you’ve really done it.
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engineer cat Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:21:23pm |
re: #254 jaunte
Which are zero and zip.
i think his prospects of being elected president of hair club for men are excellent
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:21:32pm |
re: #247 goddamnedfrank
That article also notes, however, that increases in earnings past $75,000 a year do not seem to add additional happiness.
I know my definition of rich is slightly warped (I generally require at least $750k in income yearly, and really rich is enough income independent of work to satisfy most desires), but even by normal people standards that’s not unreachable.
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Lidane Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:23:02pm |
re: #254 jaunte
Which are zero and zip.
Don’t tell him that. He supposedly going to leave the governor’s office in 2014 to run for the GOP nomination again in 2016.
I want that asshole out of the governor’s mansion.
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Pacific moderate Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:23:47pm |
Does this mean that Louie Gohmert will do the prudent thing and leave the country? End of civilization and all that? No reason why he and J. Scalia would want to stay in a place like that, right?
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:25:19pm |
re: #247 goddamnedfrank
What I’m saying isn’t addressed by that paper, which is, if you take person A, currently making $90,000 a year, and you give them $200,000 a year free money, (a lotto win or what have you) they will not actually derive much happiness from it or what they buy from it.
That study can’t possibly be controlling for the other factors that high-income households have— education, friends, professional success, etc. Given that money is an abstraction, I’d say that the status and success is probably what causes happiness, more than the wealth.
However, obviously, wealth can give you opportunities, for education, for high-paying jobs that are also high-status jobs, so it’s highly related.
But I don’t think Glenn Thinks of himself as a success. I think a lot of really rich people never do, and that’s why they keep working like demons, hoping to one day feel that success.
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Weet Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:25:22pm |
re: #75 AlexRogan
That shit ain’t over yet; I wouldn’t put it past Perry to call another special session, so the TPGOPers can put a warmed-over SB5 at the head of the line.
It will depend upon whether he thinks it helps him become POTUS.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:26:06pm |
re: #262 klys and whatnot
That article also notes, however, that increases in earnings past $75,000 a year do not seem to add additional happiness.
No, it says the opposite.
Economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers have been arguing for years that, yes, richer families tend to be happier, and no, there is not an automatic cut-off point.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:26:35pm |
What’s next for the end timers? Gold going down, full ammo stocks, Buckets of freeze dried chicken in the pantry. What’s next!?!
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:02pm |
re: #265 Pacific moderate
Does this mean that Louie Gohmert will do the prudent thing and leave the country? End of civilization and all that? No reason why he and J. Scalia would want to stay in a place like that, right?
No they see themselves as noble dissidents fighting against the evil of a same sex couple having the same rights that they do under the law. Next they will embark on their next crusade. People who aren’t Christians having the same religious freedom as Christians.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:05pm |
re: #266 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
What I’m saying isn’t addressed by that paper, which is, if you take person A), currently making $90,000 a year, and you give them $200,000 a year free money, (a lotto win or what have you) they will not actually derive much happiness from it or what they buy from it.
It’d be tough, but I’m willing to be a test subject to see if that’s really true.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:30pm |
re: #75 AlexRogan
And Perry has called a second special session to start Monday…
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:31pm |
Someone just give Rick Perry his own personal uterus, already.— Andi Zeisler (@andizeisler) June 26, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:46pm |
re: #271 GeneJockey
It’d be tough, but I’m willing to be a test subject to see if that’s really true.
Report to the giant floating stone head we re-purposed from Zardoz for your money-shower.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:27:46pm |
re: #268 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
No, it says the opposite.
The study it is discussing says the opposite, but the article notes that several other studies have found that this seems to be the case.
It also notes that the increase in wealth associated with an increase in happiness is logarithmic.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:28:52pm |
re: #274 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Report to the giant floating stone head we re-purposed from Zardoz for your money-shower.
It keeps tossing out guns. Better check the programming.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:29:20pm |
Okay
I know we’re lazy and in a hurry with our busy little lives ,,, but ,,,
Farmville funeral home now offers drive-thru viewing
damn
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:30:07pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:30:09pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:30:30pm |
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:30:42pm |
It’s obvious that the throwbacks have not organized their talking points:
Let’s throw some red meat into the arena. In case you’ve been hiding under a rock, the Supreme Court issued a ruling that declared the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional earlier today. Here are a few responses from our Republican officials without comment:
From Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens:
“Today, the Supreme Court of the United States held 5-4 that Congress violated equal protection when it defined marriage for federal purposes differently from the way the State of New York defined it. I disagree with the Court’s decision. But it is important to understand what the decision does and does not mean.
Today’s decision rests on the basic assumption – with which I strongly agree – that the power to define marriage is a power traditionally reserved to the States. The decision does not affect existing state definitions of marriage; in fact, it explicitly says that it is limited to marriages recognized by states as lawful. I agree with the Chief Justice that this limitation means what it says. The definition of marriage adopted by Georgia’s voters is unaffected by today’s decision.”
From Congressman Jack Kingston (R-GA-01):
Congressman Jack Kingston (R-GA) issued the following statement in response to the Supreme Courts’ ruling today on the Defense of Marriage Act:
“Today’s ruling is a disappointment to those of us who believe in the traditional definition of marriage being between one man and one woman. It is also of great concern to those of us who believe in the traditional role of the court. The more the judicial branch creeps into an activist role, the more it defies the will of the people as expressed through their elected representatives and President.
“The Defense of Marriage Act was passed by overwhelming bipartisan majorities in both houses of Congress and signed into law by President Clinton. By overturning it without cause, the Court today stepped beyond the constitutional limits to its power.”
The Defense of Marriage Act (Public Law 104-199) was passed by the U.S. House on July 12, 1996 by a vote of 342-67 and the U.S. Senate on September 10 of that year by a vote of 85-14. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.
So what one calls an “activist role” the other calls it not a problem and that the supremes reaffirmed the states’ roll in defining marriage.
Yes, there were two rulings, but it’s the exact same court.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:30:52pm |
re: #275 klys and whatnot
It also notes that the increase in wealth associated with an increase in happiness is logarithmic.
Ah, now there’s my problem. To be happy, my wealth should increase logarithmically, whereas in fact it’s been increasing asymptotically.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:31:19pm |
re: #262 klys and whatnot
That article also notes, however, that increases in earnings past $75,000 a year do not seem to add additional happiness.
No, read it again. The study says that’s a widely held misconception, that happiness continues to increase at the same rate with each doubling of income.
And while we can all agree that desperate poverty is hideous, there is a broadly held view that after a certain level of income (around $75,000, say), more money doesn’t buy more well-being.
But it’s just not so. Economists Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers have been arguing for years that, yes, richer families tend to be happier, and no, there is not an automatic cut-off point.
See.
I know my definition of rich is slightly warped (I generally require at least $750k in income yearly, and really rich is enough income independent of work to satisfy most desires), but even by normal people standards that’s not unreachable.
$750k isn’t unreachable by “normal people standards.” Really? That’s 98th percentile of married couples, 99.5% for single filers. That’s, by definition, out of reach for the vast majority of the populace.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:31:46pm |
re: #276 GeneJockey
It keeps tossing out guns. Better check the programming.
Put your red leather thong and a Greek horror mask on.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:31:51pm |
re: #282 GeneJockey
Ah, now there’s my problem. To by happy, my wealth should increase logarithmically, whereas in fact it’s been increasing asymptotically.
Haha.
It’s fun to watch what happens to the balance in Quicken with the stock market. Noting, of course, that we are privileged to be able to afford to do that.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:32:03pm |
re: #280 sattv4u2
exactly!
Heh more seriously, this is pretty morbid. Call me traditional but I believe viewing the deceased should be a solemn occassion. I know how tough it was for me to see the casket closed on my grandfather for the last time since I knew it’d be the last time I’d see his face.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:33:25pm |
re: #285 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Put your red leather thong and a Greek horror mask on.
Do I get to bone Charlotte Rampling?
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:34:03pm |
re: #284 goddamnedfrank
No, read it again. The study says that’s a widely held misconception, that happiness continues to increase at the same rate with each doubling of income.
See.
The article bases this claim on one study. One.
I’ll grant you the study of economics is on the fuzzy side to start with, but I generally require a few more data points.
$750k isn’t unreachable by “normal people standards.” Really? That’s 98th percentile of married couples, 99.5% for single filers. That’s, by definition, out of reach for the vast majority of the populace.
I apologize that what I wrote was unclear, but I meant that $75k isn’t unreachable by “normal people standards”. I consider $750k rich for a reason, no small part of it because for most people it is unreachable.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:34:25pm |
re: #266 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I think the closest the study goes to validating the old adage is that the relationship of happiness to income is based on a logarithmic scale, that increases from $1000 to $2000 per year carries the same incremental increase in happiness as from $10K to $20K. That there is a law of diminishing returns and that a more equitable income distribution would make far more people far happier.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:34:32pm |
re: #287 HappyWarrior
Heh more seriously, this is pretty morbid. Call me traditional but I believe viewing the deceased should be a solemn occassion. I know how tough it was for me to see the casket closed on my grandfather for the last time since I knew it’d be the last time I’d see his face.
heh
Years ago it took 4 grown men to pull my (at the time early 80 y/o, all of 120 lbs) grandmother out of the casket the last nights viewing of my uncle (her son) with her knowing the same thing
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:35:18pm |
re: #288 GeneJockey
Do I get to bone Charlotte Rampling?
That’s between you and her whether you want to take it to the second level. Just remember to be scientific about it.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:35:50pm |
re: #271 GeneJockey
It’d be tough, but I’m willing to be a test subject to see if that’s really true.
$200,000 USD would be a house here in the Czech Republic wherein I could live like King Croesus himself and have money to spare. I too would be willing to be a test subject to determine the validity of that hypothesis.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:37:12pm |
re: #293 Dr Lizardo
$200,000 USD would be a house here in the Czech Republic wherein I could live like King Croesus himself and have money to spare. I too would be willing to be a test subject to determine the validity of that hypothesis.
You could serve as a control for where one lives.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:37:20pm |
re: #293 Dr Lizardo
$200,000 USD would be a house here in the Czech Republic wherein I could live like King Croesus himself and have money to spare. I too would be willing to be a test subject to determine the validity of that hypothesis.
Meanwhile, in the Bay Area, $200,000 won’t even buy you a condo within an hour commute of most places…
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Gus Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:37:56pm |
Now that Texas has 26 million residents perhaps it should consider a full-time professional state legislature?— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 26, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:39:08pm |
If civilization falls tonight, I’m blaming elizajane.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:39:09pm |
re: #295 klys and whatnot
Meanwhile, in the Bay Area, $200,000 won’t even buy you a condo within an hour commute of most places…
I think you could acquire the entire state of New Mexico for that.
/
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:39:56pm |
re: #290 goddamnedfrank
I think the closest the study goes to validating the old adage is that the relationship of happiness to income is based on a logarithmic scale, that increases from $1000 to $2000 per year carries the same incremental increase in happiness as from $10K to $20K. That there is a law of diminishing returns and that a more equitable income distribution would make far more people far happier.
Oh, fuck yeah, I think ihere are diminishing returns both psychologically and economically. I mean, economically it’s really, really trivial to show.
All I’m saying is that that study is comparing households of different wealth levels to each other, whereas I’m talking about comparing a household to itself at different wealth levels, and checking happiness. From what I have seen, when money arrives that is not associated with status— as in, the money comes from a windfall (but not from inheritance, which we often feel great about and that we deserve because we’re idiots)— the happiness of the person or household bounces up for a bit but then sinks back down.
Basically, I’m a Sapolskyite and think status is most of what makes us happy as the weirdo primates we are, and in our capitalist society wealth is a fair but very imperfect proxy for status, and it’s not the wealth causing the happiness but the status.
Of course, Beck is ‘high status’ too, with lots of people willing to bootlick him, I’m sure, but he just seems so needy and desperate. I’m probably reaching.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:40:21pm |
re: #297 Decatur Deb
If civilization falls tonight, I’m blaming elizajane.
Needs moar dings! (Especially since we don’t hafta get them a gift…)
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:40:38pm |
re: #266 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
What I’m saying isn’t addressed by that paper, which is, if you take person A, currently making $90,000 a year, and you give them $200,000 a year free money, (a lotto win or what have you) they will not actually derive much happiness from it or what they buy from it.
That study can’t possibly be controlling for the other factors that high-income households have— education, friends, professional success, etc. Given that money is an abstraction, I’d say that the status and success is probably what causes happiness, more than the wealth.
However, obviously, wealth can give you opportunities, for education, for high-paying jobs that are also high-status jobs, so it’s highly related.
But I don’t think Glenn Thinks of himself as a success. I think a lot of really rich people never do, and that’s why they keep working like demons, hoping to one day feel that success.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:40:43pm |
re: #295 klys and whatnot
Meanwhile, in the Bay Area, $200,000 won’t even buy you a condo within an hour commute of most places…
Location location location
200K here in the outskirts of Atlanta gets you a very nice new(er) 2500+ sq/ft home (4 bedrooms,,, ,2 1/2 to 3 baths) on up to an acre
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:40:55pm |
re: #292 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
That’s between you and her whether you want to take it to the second level. Just remember to be scientific about it.
When I say ‘Bone Charlotte Rampling’, this isn’t what I mean.
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:41:05pm |
@joshtpm Filibuster 2 - the sequel. This time she's already wearing a back brace, a camel-back filled with coffee, and a catheter.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) June 26, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:41:50pm |
re: #301 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, nobody ever argues being poor doesn’t cause unhappiness.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:42:11pm |
re: #303 GeneJockey
When I say ‘Bone Charlotte Rampling’, this isn’t what I mean.
I’d say that movie ended weird but it also started and middled weird.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:42:14pm |
re: #295 klys and whatnot
Meanwhile, in the Bay Area, $200,000 won’t even buy you a condo within an hour commute of most places…
$200K/year WOULD pay the mortgage on a very nice place, however, and if we’re talking about $200k/year indefinitely, that’s the equivalent of a lot of wealth.
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freetoken Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:42:20pm |
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:42:58pm |
re: #297 Decatur Deb
If civilization falls tonight, I’m blaming elizajane.
Hey, she joined LGF 59 minutes after I did!
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:16pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:29pm |
Rubio couldn't make it 10 minutes w/out water.But Wendy DAVIS made it over 10 hrs.Cuz shes a badass! #StandWithWendy pic.twitter.com/4ShY49mqXk— KHARY PENEBAKER (@kharyp) June 26, 2013
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:30pm |
re: #302 sattv4u2
Location location location
200K here in the outskirts of Atlanta gets you a very nice new(er) 2500+ sq/ft home (4 bedrooms,,, ,2 1/2 to 3 baths) on up to an acre
We might be planning to move out of the Bay Area at some point…
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darthstar Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:43pm |
On bright side: Rick Perry can't count to three, so if TX Dems get through 2nd special session they're home free.— Hunter (@HunterDK) June 26, 2013
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:46pm |
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:43:56pm |
re: #306 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I’d say that movie ended weird but it also started and middled weird.
Oh, yes. Oh, my, yes.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:44:11pm |
re: #295 klys and whatnot
Meanwhile, in the Bay Area, $200,000 won’t even buy you a condo within an hour commute of most places…
This page is in Czech, but this house here that I’m linking to is going for about $103,000: sreality.cz
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:44:36pm |
re: #312 klys and whatnot
We might be planning to move out of the Bay Area at some point…
Yeah. I lived in Boston for decades, so I know about markets like that
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:44:41pm |
Louie ought to be pissed because he can’t marry his first cousin in TX: ncsl.org
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:47:52pm |
re: #307 GeneJockey
$200K/year WOULD pay the mortgage on a very nice place, however, and if we’re talking about $200k/year indefinitely, that’s the equivalent of a lot of wealth.
It still depends on location - living costs are also higher, of course. but let’s say $200,000. Between federal and state taxes in CA, that takes you down to $100,000 (roughly, I am not an accountant) a year. That gives you $2750 a month available for housing, if you go by the 33% of take home pay rule.
That sounds like a reasonable amount, until you consider that in some places *coughStanfordcough*, a one bedroom apartment can easily go for $1400 if not more. Two to three bedrooms? You’re talking easily into the $3k a month range.
Now granted, you still have a lot more left after the housing costs are considered for the rest of cost of living stuff. Not going to disupt that. But location makes a huge difference. (There’s a reason grad students in the Bay Area get paid ~50% more than most others, and it’s not due to any other factors.)
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Bubblehead II Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:49:00pm |
re: #304 darthstar
This time she’s already wearing a back brace, a camel-back filled with coffee, and a catheter.
Rules state no drinking allowed. But I didn’t see anything prohibiting the use of a catheter.
What was the name of that Burt Reynolds movie were he went to some group therapy session that more or less made you piss yourself, but he had the fore sight to bring one and pissed into (it sounded like) a metal container. It was also football related.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:49:04pm |
re: #316 Dr Lizardo
This page is in Czech, but this house here that I’m linking to is going for about $103,000: sreality.cz
Here’s one a little over 200K right near me
5 Bedrooms, 4 Bathrooms
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danarchy Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:50:11pm |
re: #321 sattv4u2
Here’s one a little over 200K right near me
5 Bedrooms, 4 Bathrooms
I live in the wrong damn state…
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wrenchwench Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:50:38pm |
re: #320 Bubblehead II
This time she’s already wearing a back brace, a camel-back filled with coffee, and a catheter.
Rules state no drinking allowed. But I didn’t see anything prohibiting the use of a catheter.
What was the name of that Burt Reynolds movie were he went to some group therapy session that more or less made you piss yourself, but he had the fore sight to bring one and pissed into (it sounded like) a metal container. It was also football related.
North Dallas Forty, iirc.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:50:49pm |
re: #320 Bubblehead II
This time she’s already wearing a back brace, a camel-back filled with coffee, and a catheter.
Rules state no drinking allowed. But I didn’t see anything prohibiting the use of a catheter.
What was the name of that Burt Reynolds movie were he went to some group therapy session that more or less made you piss yourself, but he had the fore sight to bring one and pissed into (it sounded like) a metal container. It was also football related.
Semi-tough.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:51:00pm |
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:51:16pm |
re: #322 danarchy
I live in the wrong damn state…
Agreed. Condos here go for almost $400k.
On the plus side, the husband bought in ‘96. We have coming up on 20 years of CA market appreciation to cash in on, and only 5 digits left on the mortgage…
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:51:42pm |
re: #321 sattv4u2
Very nice; a good deal, to be honest. $220,000 is a bargain. I lived in and Portland, Oregon and something like that up there would set you back probably closer to half a million.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:51:52pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:51:59pm |
re: #327 klys and whatnot
Agreed. Condos here go for almost $400k.
On the plus side, the husband bought in ‘96. We have coming up on 20 years of CA market appreciation to cash in on, and only 5 digits left on the mortgage...
They take your fingers each month!?!?!?!
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:52:40pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:52:48pm |
re: #325 Decatur Deb
Semi-tough.
I was wrong, you are right. A hilarious movie it was, too! Especially if one grew up in California in the 70’s.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:52:55pm |
re: #319 klys and whatnot
The irony about me working as a remote contractor is that I’m doing it from the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and paying $1800 for a one bedroom. I could be in some nice quiet sleepy town somewhere and doing it and be renting a whole damn house for that.
My whole adult life I’ve lived in expensive places. Boston, San Francisco, New York City. If I ever move to somewhere else i’ll die of shock at how cheap housing is.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:53:15pm |
re: #330 sattv4u2
They take your fingers each month!?!?!?!
Of course, that’s why he married me. He needed a fresh supply.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:53:26pm |
re: #328 Dr Lizardo
Very nice; a good deal, to be honest. $220,000 is a bargain. I lived in and Portland, Oregon and something like that up there would set you back probably closer to half a million.
My cousins step-son bought approximately the same house in Southern New Hampshire ,,,, $650k,,,,,
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:54:07pm |
re: #332 wrenchwench
I was wrong, you are right. A hilarious movie it was, too! Especially if one grew up in California in the 70’s.
The device was “The Motorman’s Friend” or “Motorman’s Companion”—used by the old streetcar drivers.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:54:32pm |
re: #333 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
The irony about me working as a remote contractor is that I’m doing it from the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and paying $1800 for a one bed room. I could be in some nice quiet sleepy town somewhere and doing it and be renting a whole damn house for that.
My whole adult life I’ve lived in expensive places. Boston, San Francisco, New York City. If I ever move to somewhere else i’ll die of shock at how cheap housing is.
I grew up in suburban NJ. Even then, I am shocked at how stupid the real estate market here is.
We could retire to Kentucky right now. On the flip side, it would be retiring to Kentucky, and I’m not sure the budget for travel would last long enough.
That’s where my definition of rich ends up coming from though.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:55:18pm |
re: #335 sattv4u2
My cousins step-son bought approximately the same house in Southern New Hampshire ,,,, $650k,,,,,
Yep, all about location.
I’m moving into my new place on July 1st. Not much, but as I’ve said on other posts, a stunning view of forests, villages and the Western Carpathians from my balcony.
On the 13th floor——seriously.
Makes me feel like a supervillain.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:55:59pm |
re: #329 klys and whatnot
The downside is that’s east coast.
I swear I’m not going back there.
I’ve lived on both
Aside from San Diego, I’ll take the east one!
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:56:02pm |
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:56:27pm |
re: #339 Dr Lizardo
Yep, all about location.
I’m moving into my new place on July 1st. Not much, but as I’ve said on other posts, a stunning view of forests, villages and the Western Carpathians from my balcony.
On the 13th floor——seriously.
Makes me feel like a supervillain.
We’re getting electrical work done, because our house was built in 1961 and it’s all original.
Also, I want AC before I kill someone.
We had naively thought that $10k set aside would be enough to get the house rewired. Thankfully none of the electricians laughed in my face.
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GeneJockey Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:56:32pm |
“That gives you $2750 a month available for housing, if you go by the 33% of take home pay rule.”
33%? How long have you been living in California?
But honestly, the primary sources of unhappiness in my life are almost all related to maintaining income. Job, loss of job, retirement, time for myself - all revolve around maintaining income, and worries about not being able to maintain income.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:57:17pm |
re: #340 sattv4u2
I’ve lived on both
Aside from San Diego, I’ll take the east one!
Bah, no. San Diego was boring. I’d love to live in the Sierras but we need a reasonable international airport within a reasonable drive. I suspect Portland or Vancouver for an eventual retirement.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:57:45pm |
re: #297 Decatur Deb
We could send them a toaster!
CONGRATULATIONS to elizajane!
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:57:46pm |
re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth
heh…
I think that’s what pisses me off so much about him. He bitches about progressivism and liberalism and it’s thanks to those movements that he’s been able to marry in Virginia without fear of being arrested, been able to rise through the ranks of the law, etc. I don’t expect him to be a liberal or even moderate because he’s AA but Justice Thomas lacks self-awareness.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:57:58pm |
re: #333 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
The irony about me working as a remote contractor is that I’m doing it from the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and paying $1800 for a one bed room. I could be in some nice quiet sleepy town somewhere and doing it and be renting a whole damn house for that.
My whole adult life I’ve lived in expensive places. Boston, San Francisco, New York City. If I ever move to somewhere else i’ll die of shock at how cheap housing is.
We gave up our 5th-floor walkup on W 75th Street and bailed for KY when the first kid was on the way. Here in AL, we build a nice 1100 sq ft Habitat house w/ AC and two baths for 63,000. (When I started it was 23,000.)
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:57:58pm |
BBL
Going to fire up the grill before our daily early evening 15 minute thunder storm hits
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:58:12pm |
re: #343 GeneJockey
“That gives you $2750 a month available for housing, if you go by the 33% of take home pay rule.”
33%? How long have you been living in California?
But honestly, the primary sources of unhappiness in my life are almost all related to maintaining income. Job, loss of job, retirement, time for myself - all revolve around maintaining income, and worries about not being able to maintain income.
Not long enough to forget how to live on a reasonable budget. >.>
We could afford a better house, but it would be stupid to move at this point. So instead the savings go towards retirement.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 2:58:43pm |
re: #342 klys and whatnot
We’re getting electrical work done, because our house was built in 1961 and it’s all original.
Also, I want AC before I kill someone.
We had naively thought that $10k set aside would be enough to get the house rewired. Thankfully none of the electricians laughed in my face.
The apartment building I’m moving into dates from the Communist era, around 1970 or so. Fortunately, the whole building was reinsulated, reinforced, and all the electrical and communications infrastructure is completely up-to-date.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:00:15pm |
re: #350 Dr Lizardo
The apartment building I’m moving into dates from the Communist era, around 1970 or so. Fortunately, the whole building was reinsulated, reinforced, and all the electrical and communications infrastructure is completely up-to-date.
I admit, I look forward to when we move.
It will be the first time I get some say in where I’m going to live and what the floorplan looks like.
I may have a thing about looking at floorplans.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:03:40pm |
re: #351 klys and whatnot
I admit, I look forward to when we move.
It will be the first time I get some say in where I’m going to live and what the floorplan looks like.
I may have a thing about looking at floorplans.
Heh. I do as well, as well as then attempting to ‘decorate’ the place in my mind so when I move in, I can get to it.
IKEA, here I come. :)
Actually, I’ll likely go to a local place known as Jysk, which is like IKEA, only less expensive if you can imagine that. Quality-wise, it’s the same.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:05:04pm |
re: #352 Dr Lizardo
Heh. I do as well, as well as then attempting to ‘decorate’ the place in my mind so when I move in, I can get to it.
IKEA, here I come. :)
Actually, I’ll likely go to a local place known as Jysk, which is like IKEA, only less expensive if you can imagine that. Quality-wise, it’s the same.
Oh, IKEA…
I love IKEA. There’s one about 10 minutes from campus and I was known to stop by on my way home. We have limited room for furniture though. Until I persuade him that a few pieces should go. >.>
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:11:09pm |
re: #353 klys and whatnot
Oh, IKEA…
I love IKEA. There’s one about 10 minutes from campus and I was known to stop by on my way home. We have limited room for furniture though. Until I persuade him that a few pieces should go. >.>
Heh. There’s an IKEA about 8 minutes away from the new place via tram; not bad at all. If I wanted to walk, about 30 minutes. Tram stop right outside the front of the building. All very convenient, and because the city ends - literally - about 150 feet away from the building, it’s also somewhat quiet. I’m on the edge of town, and it’s nice. Where I am now…..yeech. Noisy, and lately, getting creepy around here.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:13:04pm |
re: #354 Dr Lizardo
Heh. There’s an IKEA about 8 minutes away from the new place via tram; not bad at all. If I wanted to walk, about 30 minutes. Tram stop right outside the front of the building. All very convenient, and because the city ends - literally - about 150 feet away from the building, it’s also somewhat quiet. I’m on the edge of town, and it’s nice. Where I am now…..yeech. Noisy, and lately, getting creepy around here.
I miss country. I mean, there’s advantages to city too, especially if you have public transportation (we don’t, really), but the quiet is nice.
Really, I’m bitter at the moment because the high for the next week+ is 90+ degrees. I need to make the list of HVAC installers.
I get the bullshit of owning a home without having actually chosen it.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:18:28pm |
re: #355 klys and whatnot
I miss country. I mean, there’s advantages to city too, especially if you have public transportation (we don’t, really), but the quiet is nice.
Really, I’m bitter at the moment because the high for the next week+ is 90+ degrees. I need to make the list of HVAC installers.
I get the bullshit of owning a home without having actually chosen it.
That sucks. 90+ degrees sucks without A/C. Here, it’s cooler; today was about only 62 or so, which is below the norm for this time of year. It should be in the mid 70s or thereabouts. But 90 degrees here sucks because almost no buildings whatsoever have A/C, usually only office buildings. You can buy a ductless A/C unit; they run about $300 or so.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:20:49pm |
re: #203 Lidane
Could someone please remind this yutz that there is a concept called consent out there? Animals can’t legally consent to marriage, or to anything else. People are not going to be able to marry their dog now:
Interesting that Rand is saying that since Texas and Kentucky are two states of 20 states where bestiality is “technically legal”.
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:25:05pm |
re: #356 Dr Lizardo
That sucks. 90+ degrees sucks without A/C. Here, it’s cooler; today was about only 62 or so, which is below the norm for this time of year. It should be in the mid 70s or thereabouts. But 90 degrees here sucks because almost no buildings whatsoever have A/C, usually only office buildings. You can buy a ductless A/C unit; they run about $300 or so.
We looked at getting stuff a while back but without updating the electrical I’ve been extremely wary of anything that draws significant current on a regular basis.
Now that we’re updating the electrical, we’re just going to go ahead and put in central; we have too few windows to sacrifice part of one to an AC unit. It will help with resale and it’ll make the next year or two much more bearable. It used to not be like this nearly so often; I don’t want to necessarily say this is climate change in action but chances are quite good that this is going to be the new normal.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:25:50pm |
re: #239 Charles Johnson
Wasn’t Glenn Beck whining very recently that he was running out of money?
yeah, same time he said his vocal chords were paralyzed…
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:33:47pm |
re: #358 klys and whatnot
We looked at getting stuff a while back but without updating the electrical I’ve been extremely wary of anything that draws significant current on a regular basis.
Now that we’re updating the electrical, we’re just going to go ahead and put in central; we have too few windows to sacrifice part of one to an AC unit. It will help with resale and it’ll make the next year or two much more bearable. It used to not be like this nearly so often; I don’t want to necessarily say this is climate change in action but chances are quite good that this is going to be the new normal.
I do wonder what climate change will bring to my little corner of the world. The last two winters have been rather harsh; also, I recall the winter of 2009-2010 which began freakishly early. Usually, we don’t get any snow until after Christmas. It began snowing in late October in 2009 and didn’t let up for two months. By January 2010, there was twice as much snowfall recorded as normal. This last winter, it began snowing here around late November, which is also earlier than usual.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:34:29pm |
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klys and whatnot Wed, Jun 26, 2013 3:34:41pm |
re: #360 Dr Lizardo
I do wonder what climate change will bring to my little corner of the world. The last two winters have been rather harsh; also, I recall the winter of 2009-2010 which began freakishly early. Usually, we don’t get any snow until after Christmas. It began snowing in late October in 2009 and didn’t let up for two months. By January 2010, there was twice as much snowfall recorded as normal. This last winter, it began snowing here around late November, which is also earlier than usual.
Let’s trade. I’ll take your snow, you can have my 90+ weather.
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