Video: Excerpts From Mitt Romney’s Attack on Donald Trump

An unprecedented intra-party battle
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Watching Romney’s speech earlier, I was reminded of why I didn’t like this guy when he ran for president; his basic hypocrisy and robotic stiffness remain intact. It was kind of fun to watch this super-rich heir to the GOP’s fortunes attack another super-rich Republican trying to run for president, and certainly unprecedented.

But if any Republican establishment leader thinks this speech is going to stop the rampaging Trumpenstein, they’re dreaming. Donald Trump is popular with the right wing base precisely because of the attributes Romney decries — his egomania, his vicious attacks on foes, his dishonesty, his racism and xenophobia, his misogyny, his belligerent and stupid ideas on foreign policy. I don’t know if there’s any way for the GOP fat cats to stop Trump at this point, but this definitely wasn’t it.

But the real target of Romney’s speech wasn’t Donald Trump; it was Hillary Clinton. The GOP establishment is terrified that nominating Trump will hand her the presidency.

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458 comments
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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:34:47am

I just love watching the republicans eating each other.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:35:28am

Alot of what Romney says about Trump is true but you could say a lot of the same things about Romney.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:35:40am

It’s completely amazing to me that what amounts to the power brokers in the GOP establishment haven’t yet figured out that Trump’s rise is due in large part to the fact that the base feels betrayed by exactly the sort of politician that Mitt Romney was in 2012. If anything, this will only feed Trump’s argument that he represents a bold new option that the party is trying to damp down.

Smrt, guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:35:53am
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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:35:58am

If the GOP wanted to stop Trump, they should have stopped pandering with the anger, hate, and nonstop obstructionism over the past 7 years.

They should have stopped supporting candidates who are obstructionists whose only idea of government is to burn it down and screw all Americans in the process except the 1% who would benefit from lower taxes.

They should have considered this kind of speech the moment Trump declared himself a candidate.

Instead, they revealed that the problem isn’t substantive, but stylistic. After all, Trump’s policies aren’t far removed from the other GOP candidates - tax policy is the same - shifting tax burdens from rich to everyone else, anti-Muslim xenophobia, race-baiting, and pandering to those who feel disenfranchised because others now have the same exact rights that they do (see gay marriage, women, etc.).

Romney giving this speech now does nothing except give Trump the ability to further rally the core GOP voters to his cause.

Even if GWB and GHWB came out against Trump now, it’s too late.

The time to have done that was years ago, when the GOP determined that their sole mission was to capitalize on anti-Obama hate.

Now? It’s only going to tear the party a new one.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:37:01am

re: #3 Testy Toad T

It’s completely amazing to me that what amounts to the power brokers in the GOP establishment haven’t yet figured out that Trump’s rise is due in large part to the fact that the base feels betrayed by exactly the sort of politician that Mitt Romney was in 2012. If anything, this will only feed Trump’s argument that he represents a bold new option that the party is trying to damp down.

Smrt, guys.

Exactly.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:38:10am

Of course, I don’t think they have anybody better to deliver Romney’s message.

Because the party is garbage and sucks. If there were such a person, they would already be running for president and they would be winning.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:38:43am

Yeah, let’s just call it a day, and start Friday now…

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jc717  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:40:07am

The cynic in me thinks that this is R Money’s way of endorsing Trump. He can’t really be naive enough to think that this will actually hurt Donald, can he?

Also surprised that RomneyBot didn’t do more to specifically push MarcoBot.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:40:28am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, let’s just call it a day, and start Friday now…

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That’s sad. Cute kid. Sorry to the Lomas’s for their loss. That’s a terrible thing for any parent to go through.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:41:13am

re: #9 jc717

I have seen nothing to indicate that the GOP is anywhere near that self-aware.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:41:33am

re: #9 jc717

The cynic in me thinks that this is R Money’s way of endorsing Trump. He can’t really be naive enough to think that this will actually hurt Donald, can he?

Also surprised that RomneyBot didn’t do more to specifically push MarcoBot.

I really really think that the establishment itself is divided on Rubio. I think Rubio was a terrible idea for an establishment type candidate since he’s got so very little accomplished. You know that causes resentment among older Republicans like Christie and Kasich who have thicker resumes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:41:48am

With no endorsement by Romney of Rubio, will he jump into the race, and try to win California and some of the other late primaries like Washington and New Jersey so that he has at least a veneer of legitimacy to support a contested convention giving Romney the nomination?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:42:51am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I really really think that the establishment itself is divided on Rubio. I think Rubio was a terrible idea for an establishment type candidate since he’s got so very little accomplished. You know that causes resentment among older Republicans like Christie and Kasich who have thicker resumes.

And he is a young Hispanic trying to appeal to an old, racist base of whites.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:43:03am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I really really think that the establishment itself is divided on Rubio. I think Rubio was a terrible idea for an establishment type candidate since he’s got so very little accomplished.

He also can’t sell the whole “elder statesman” thing at all.

To be honest, I think if Perry had hung around long enough, he might have this in the bag.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:43:47am

re: #14 Big Beautiful Door

And he is a young Hispanic trying to appeal to an old, racist base of whites.

Yeah you can’t discount the culture and age aspect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:43:50am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:44:14am

re: #15 Testy Toad T

He also can’t sell the whole “elder statesman” thing at all.

To be honest, I think if Perry had hung around long enough, he might have this in the bag.

I really thought that Perry would have been the candidate in 2012.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:44:28am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:44:41am

re: #15 Testy Toad T

He also can’t sell the whole “elder statesman” thing at all.

To be honest, I think if Perry had hung around long enough, he might have this in the bag.

Perry has been making noises about getting back into politics.

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:44:42am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, let’s just call it a day, and start Friday now…

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That’s sad. I hate hearing that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:44:50am

Here is stuff Donald Trump said pre-emptively about Mitt this morning:

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:45:26am

re: #7 Testy Toad T

Of course, I don’t think they have anybody better to deliver Romney’s message.

Because the party is garbage and sucks. If there were such a person, they would already be running for president and they would be winning.

Bingo. No-one in the GOP establishment has a shred of credibility with the base.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:45:30am

I think this is actually a trial balloon for his name being thrown out as an option during a hypothetical brokered convention; Rubio has proven he can’t pull off a win, everyone thinks Cruz is a dick, Kasich will be out by then. I think Romney is going to be the establishment choice if the nomination fight gets that far. Even if Romney can’t pull off a win himself (not sure many people believe he would be able to), he won’t tank the down-ticket races and cost the GOP the Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:45:31am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Here is stuff Donald Trump said pre-emptively about Mitt this morning:

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The funny thing is if you’re a Republican voter, it’s hard to argue with a lot of that.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:45:40am

The GOP has spent has spent decades using hateful rhetoric to divide this country based on left vs. right. Now they are dividing amongst themselves. Can’t say I feel sorry for them…at all. But, I’ll take a moment to pat myself on the back and say, “We told you so”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:46:16am
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jc717  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:46:25am

What I really want to know is… what does Robert Morrow, GOP chair, think of all this?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:46:41am

LOL

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iossarian  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:47:35am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“GOP politician X’s speech on policy Y changes nothing. He was speaking to the part of the country that already opposes policy Y without offering a plan or alternative.”

Staggering observation is no less staggering for its monotony: the US is a two-party system in which one party does not offer actual policy proposals: it just says “we don’t like that”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:47:56am

Kasich haz a happy

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:48:06am

I wonder how Trumpistas would react to such a speech given by W. They’ve got to try playing that card at some point, right? What’s the game plan here? Is there one?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:48:34am

re: #15 Testy Toad T

He also can’t sell the whole “elder statesman” thing at all.

To be honest, I think if Perry had hung around long enough, he might have this in the bag.

You kidding? Trump eviscerated him with one line.

He put on glasses so people think he’s smart. People can see through the glasses

A dimbulb like Perry has no chance against the Donald.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:49:12am

Trump campaign co-chair arrested for conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States

Jerry Delemus, the husband of a New Hampshire Republican lawmaker and co-chair of the stat’s “Veterans for Trump” coalition, was arrested Thursday for his role in the armed standoff nearly two years ago at the Bundy ranch.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested Delemus on nine federal charges — including conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of justice, attempting to impede or injure a federal law enforcement officer and several firearms charges, reported Portsmouth Patch.

And the hits keep coming…..

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:49:32am
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A Mom Anon  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:53:20am

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

I had to turn my TV off this morning because this asshole was on every channel. He never answered one question about anything, it was all deflection. George Snuffleupagus pressed him a little, but the asshole simply can’t answer a question, EVER. He’s a scam artist, and I would bet money (if I actually had any) that Drumpf donates literally nothing to any charity except his own crooked “foundation” and there’s probably a shit ton of other dirt attached to his finances that would sink his ass if people had a clue.

I try not to let politics get to me too much, but I broke down crying this morning. So many die hard Republicans simply do not care as long as their vote pisses off one of those lazy, good for nothing liberals. I cut someone else out of my life this morning, she didn’t vote in the primaries because FUCKING BEN CARSON doesn’t stand a chance of winning. “He makes the most sense out of anyone.” HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:53:24am

jeebus

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:53:26am

re: #32 Testy Toad T

I wonder how Trumpistas would react to such a speech given by W. They’ve got to try playing that card at some point, right? What’s the game plan here? Is there one?

Pretty obviously no. That’s why I’m thinking a hail mary campaign by Romney is a real possibility.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:53:30am

re: #33 Big Beautiful Door

You kidding? Trump eviscerated him with one line.

A dimbulb like Perry has no chance against the Donald.

I don’t think intelligence is what is required to go after Trump. You need to not be a cowering whimpering ninny like Jeb!, you need to not look like the world’s most punchable dick like Cruz/Rubio, you need to be somebody the base has heard of, and you need to… actually that might be all you need.

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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:53:56am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:54:13am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Fuck off, Bernie. Fuck right the fuck off with your whitesplaining bullshit. Get the fuck out of my party while you’re at it.

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:54:13am

The GOP still can’t figure out what happened, can they? And Mittens, being the empty suit he became, could not even throw support behind an anti Trump candidate. No endorsement. No names. Hmmm. This speech was more important for what he didn’t say. They might as well dig up Reagan and have him as the candidate. They are as dead as him.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:54:30am

Puhleeze, Mittens, your share of blame for Trump may not be as big as that of your wingnuttier colleagues, but it’s still huge seeing how you never called out the GOP extremism before.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:55:04am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Sorry Bernie, you can’t blame Hillary for Detroit making crappy cars.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:55:05am

re: #32 Testy Toad T

What’s the game plan here? Is there one?

The GOP’s game plan for the last 24 years is to NEVER admit you’ve done anything wrong. You can’t fix things when you won’t admit they’re screwed up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:56:36am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Uh huh.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:56:59am

re: #44 Big Beautiful Door

Sorry Bernie, you can’t blame Hillary for Detroit making crappy cars.

6000 SUX Commercial

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:57:34am

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

In a normal election year, Kaisch would be the frontrunner after Jeb’s inability to get traction became apparent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:58:15am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Well shitfire, there is no way I can recall my ballot now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:58:55am
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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:59:33am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:59:40am

A major problem with this kind of critique is: Donald Trump is not inventing new rhetorical devices or even giving an especially novel performance.

His success mirrors the success of Tea Partiers—whose excesses of bravado and fear-mongering he is basically the bio-acculmation of…like a tuna full of mercury. Trump re-emerged as a politician by going Birther in 2012. That was, whether intentional or not, his first political gambit. And it succeeded.

But it’s worse than that: even “mild” GOP politicians like Mitch McConnell use tropes about how the past eight years are about “unprecedented power grabs” and “illegal actions” to leverage their obstructionism as patriotism. Other Trump lines—like how we’re “weak” and “laughed at ” overseas—are even older than the 2007 crop of moral panics: a whole bunch of the language about foreign policy and war footing gelled post 9/11.

(And in many ways, Trump’s performance is just the natural successor to the role invented by Rush Limbaugh.)

In a very real sense, Donald Trump’s positions are coherent with the message that the GOP and its cultural adjuncts have perpetrated for a very long time. They have marketed on the basis that anything less than their policy is the end of America and the beginning of a horror movie. Outlets like Fox News and the stable of wingnut websites have created an entire ecosystem of fear and arrogant anger, but also created a kind of in-grown conspiracy logic in which all critique is treasonous and the product of malefic conspiracy by those that want to hurt “Real America.”

Donald Trump has carried that line to its natural next step: a very direct, open nationalist chauvinism that counts all detractors as enemies of the state. He may not get the nomination, but he’s catalyzed a cultural shift that had already started a decade ago. If he flops today, he will still have shifted the political landscape. Trump-imitators will follow.

This is the golem they crafted, arrogant in the idea that the know-to-be-uncontrollable force of fear and hate could be harnessed for venal goals.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:59:44am

Sanders knows he kinda needs to win Michigan, right?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:59:48am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. We need good candidates.

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:00:14am

Christie presser link

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:00:34am

re: #32 Testy Toad T

I wonder how Trumpistas would react to such a speech given by W. They’ve got to try playing that card at some point, right? What’s the game plan here? Is there one?

It would be pretty much unprecedented for a former president to get involved in a primary. About the only time it happens is if there’s a relative running (see the Bushes (is there an “e”?) and the Clintons).

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Nojay UK  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:00:48am

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

Well shitfire, there is no way I can recall my ballot now.

“Wake up Bernie I think I got something to say to you
It’s late September and I really should be back at school
I know I keep you amused but I feel I’m being used
Oh Bernie I couldn’t have tried any more”

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:01:19am

re: #9 jc717

The cynic in me thinks that this is R Money’s way of endorsing Trump. He can’t really be naive enough to think that this will actually hurt Donald, can he?

Also surprised that RomneyBot didn’t do more to specifically push MarcoBot.

I think Tommy Christopher was on to something. Romney invited Republican voters to vote for anyone (and everyone) besides Trump - which will do what, exactly? Vote splitting between all the GOPers still in the race still winds up with Trump as the nominee.

Unless…Mitt rides in on his white horse to save the day.

Which really puts a different spin on Mr. Romney’s speech.

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:01:21am

re: #5 lawhawk

they revealed that the problem isn’t substantive, but stylistic.


PREACH

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:01:28am

You know maybe instead of being negative all the time, he could talk about how he plans to improve that. And blaming Clinton for the state of Detroit is crappy and dishonest as hell but go on Bernie tell us more how Clinton’s only negative and you’re not running a negative campaign.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:01:53am

You know how Trump’s favorite line about the US is “weak” and a “laughingstock” what do you think his presidency would make us? MOAR YOOGE LAUGHING STOCK.

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:02:17am

re: #55 makeitstop

Christie presser link

Will the real message be in blinked Morse Code?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:02:54am

re: #39 Testy Toad T

I don’t think intelligence is what is required to go after Trump. You need to not be a cowering whimpering ninny like Jeb!, you need to not look like the world’s most punchable dick like Cruz/Rubio, you need to be somebody the base has heard of, and you need to… actually that might be all you need.

Well you have to have some credibility. Even the GOP base won’t vote for a complete moron. Romney may be the only guy who can get into the race with the credibility to unite the Republicans repulsed by Trump to block him from getting to 1,237 before the convention.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:03:09am

re: #26 Dr. Matt

The GOP has spent has spent decades using hateful rhetoric to divide this country based on left vs. right. Now they are dividing amongst themselves. Can’t say I feel sorry for them…at all. But, I’ll take a moment to pat myself on the back and say, “We told you so”.

But Obama is divisive and has divided us — the GOP says so,

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:03:22am
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:03:29am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I really really think that the establishment itself is divided on Rubio. I think Rubio was a terrible idea for an establishment type candidate since he’s got so very little accomplished. You know that causes resentment among older Republicans like Christie and Kasich who have thicker resumes.

Not only lack of accomplishments but the fact that he doesn’t do the job he has…he’s always looking ta the next job, and that he is not a bright guy. He’s shown that he cannot think on his feet (hence the automaton meme…if you can’t do a come-back to Christie’s “you’re a robot” without sounding like a robot, you’re in trouble).

Rubio needed another 10 years of knowledge. Assuming he has the rudimentary smarts to start with.

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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:03:35am

re: #59 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork


PREACH

Testify!
Witness me!

WITNESS ME (Mad Max: Fury Road, HD)

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:03:38am

re: #62 nines09

Will the real message be in blinked Morse Code?

I was expecting a Trump sign on the podium.

Alas, this is a gubernatorial presser. Someone must have reminded Big Chicken that he still has a day job.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:04:11am

re: #66 MsJ

Not only lack of accomplishments but the fact that he doesn’t do the job he has…he’s always looking ta the next job, and that he is not a bright guy. He’s shown that he cannot think on his feet (hence the automaton meme…if you can’t do a come-back to Christie’s “you’re a robot” without sounding like a robot, you’re in trouble).

Rubio needed another 10 years of knowledge. Assuming he has the rudimentary smarts to start with.

Agreed 100%.

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:04:58am

re: #26 Dr. Matt

The GOP has spent has spent decades using hateful rhetoric to divide this country based on left vs. right. Now they are dividing amongst themselves. Can’t say I feel sorry for them…at all. But, I’ll take a moment to pat myself on the back and say, “We told you so”.

Natural progression, sort of like………………..EVOLUTION!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:05:45am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

My Czech students are genuinely horrified at the prospect of a President Trump. One of them said this last Wednesday, “I feel sorry for you….your country seems to have gone insane.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:05:47am

Damnit…typing away in the last thread and trying to work and another thread started up. Tells me I can’t do both. Later. I guess I just have to miss all the fun stuff going on…like Trump getting ready to fire back at 1:30. See you all later.

(grumble)

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:06:03am

Trump response to Mittens is coming at 1:30, according to the link I put up for the Christie presser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:06:08am
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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:06:09am

re: #68 makeitstop

He’s probably only in town to cut pensions, close bridges, and get a case of rubbers for the future screwing of New Jersey before he shoves off.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:06:16am

NO. Just…NO.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:07:00am
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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:07:05am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

My Czech students are genuinely horrified at the prospect of a President Trump. One of them said this last Wednesday, “I feel sorry for you….your country seems to have gone insane.”

Did you tell him only half the Country.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:07:28am

re: #78 Tigger2

Did you tell him only half the Country.

A third of half of half the country, give or take.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:07:30am

re: #76 Lidane

NO. Just…NO.

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Done at the right place, this could work but with Dominos nope.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:07:33am

re: #58 MsJ

I think Tommy Christopher was on to something. Romney invited Republican voters to vote for anyone (and everyone) besides Trump - which will do what, exactly? Vote splitting between all the GOPers still in the race still winds up with Trump as the nominee.

Unless…Mitt rides in on his white horse to save the day.

Which really puts a different spin on Mr. Romney’s speech.

If I recall correctly, in order to be nominated at the convention, a candidate must win at least 8 primaries/caucuses. At least on the first ballot. So basically, they need the Not-Trumps to actually win states so they can get on the floor ballot. Cruz has won 4 states, and perhaps he’s got a chance to win a few more in the midwest where the evangelical vote would be big.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:08:28am

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

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Burn. Yeah I remember Mitt being a complete wuss in refusing to condemn the pig Limbaugh. This isn’t out of principle against Trump. It’s because they’re afraid Trump will make them look ridiculous and to quote Jack Woltz men like them cannot afford ot look ridiculous!

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:08:39am

Christie taking his time getting to the podium. Considering he’ll have to get off by the time his boss is scheduled to start, this will be a short presser.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:09:31am

re: #76 Lidane

Looks good.

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[deleted]  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:09:45am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:14am

re: #85 Nyet

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Ouch.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:37am

re: #78 Tigger2

Did you tell him only half the Country.

It was “her”, and yes, I did tell her that only about half the country had actually lost their damned minds.

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S'latch  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:40am

Donald Trump makes Mitt Romney look really likable to me. I could almost vote for the guy at this point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:42am

re: #85 Nyet

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SICK BURN BRO

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:49am

re: #84 Nyet

Looks good.

You need to have real Italian-American pizza.

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Danack  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:52am

re: #83 makeitstop

Considering he’ll have to get off by the time his boss is scheduled to start,

I am not making a prediction about what Christie is going to say…..but there must have been many phone calls to him since he endorsed Trump that are asking wtf he thinks he’s doing, and does he really want to war against the GOP establishment.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:10:56am

re: #79 Testy Toad T

A third of half of half the country, give or take.

27%, plus or minus

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:11:12am

re: #68 makeitstop

I was expecting a Trump sign on the podium.

Alas, this is a gubernatorial presser. Someone must have reminded Big Chicken that he still has a day job.

Like all the Jersey papers which told him to resign?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:11:31am

Baby Whiplash has a Blind Squirrel Finds A Stopped Clock Moment==>

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:11:36am

I love this appeal to the heretofore-unattainable black vote. I’M A RICH WHITE GUY AND HAHAHA, LOOK AT WHAT A SHITTY PLACE A BUNCH OF YOU LIVE IN

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:11:49am

Christie is now taking full credit for the moon landing.

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:12:02am

re: #91 Danack

I am not making a prediction about what Christie is going to say…..but there must have been many phone calls to him since he endorsed Trump that are asking wtf he thinks he’s doing, and does he really want to war against the GOP establishment.

He’s all about Jersey today. So far, at least.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:12:14am

re: #88 S’latch

Donald Trump makes Mitt Romney look really likable to me. I could almost vote for the guy at this point.

If I were a Republican and saw this from Romney, it would make me want to support Trump more. I’m pissed off my party already as is and you send this guy who couldn’t even beat the incompetent Obama. (Remember I’m a Republican in this sceaniro.) Romney’s speech is a preach to the choir that he could have done behind closed doors at a CoC or any other Republican mainstream event.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:12:15am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

My Czech students are genuinely horrified at the prospect of a President Trump. One of them said this last Wednesday, “I feel sorry for you….your country seems to have gone insane.”

Tell them its just one party that has gone insane. It will only be the nation if he wins in November, and I really don’t think he will.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:13:08am

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash has a Blind Squirrel Finds A Stopped Clock Moment==>

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The first time in history Ben Shapiro has ever been right about anything. He’s a little wrong though. Romney did attack Obama plenty including saying he sympathized with the Benghazi attackers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:14:41am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

If I were a Republican and saw this from Romney, it would make me want to support Trump more. I’m pissed off my party already as is and you send this guy who couldn’t even beat the incompetent Obama. (Remember I’m a Republican in this sceaniro.) Romney’s speech is a preach to the choir that he could have done behind closed doors at a CoC or any other Republican mainstream event.

Well, I’m a Republican and I’m disgusted with the lot of them (and have been for a very long time).

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:14:59am

I worked at GM back in the day and remember a UAW guy saying to me “They’re sending our jobs overseas now, but in 10 years it will be your jobs”

He turned out to be right. BTW this was in 1991. WHO WAS PRESIDENT IN 1991 BERNIE?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:19am

re: #81 KGxvi

If I recall correctly, in order to be nominated at the convention, a candidate must win at least 8 primaries/caucuses. At least on the first ballot. So basically, they need the Not-Trumps to actually win states so they can get on the floor ballot. Cruz has won 4 states, and perhaps he’s got a chance to win a few more in the midwest where the evangelical vote would be big.

As long as Trump doesn’t have a majority they can change the rules. That rule was only to keep Ron Paul from giving a convention speech in 2012 anyway.

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:32am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Don’t worry.

I’m sure if we read his full accounting of how he perceives this situation, it would turn out he’s wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:37am
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:50am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Perry has been making noises about getting back into politics.

Perry looking for his third government pension check for life? Or would this be his fourth?

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:54am
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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:15:55am

Christie…On Trump…
It’s a buddy thing. Just to destroy the evil Hillary. Honest. I’m not angling for a gig. Honest. Just look at me. I’m a square guy. And I’ll rip your fucking throat out if you say otherwise.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:16:26am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I’m a Republican and I’m disgusted with the lot of them (and have been for a very long time).

I keep on forgetting that you’re a Republican still.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:16:57am

Yay for us south of the Ohio River.
NWS just issued a snow advisory for us.
I’ve already lost my satellite signal, so I guess I need to go outside and clear snow off the dish.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:17:22am

re: #107 Lidane

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It wasn’t nonsensical Sarah would actually win some grudging brownie points if she pointed out the better word- hypocritical. But it’s going to be fun to see these two sides do battle on the eve of CPAC..

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:17:25am

re: #108 nines09

Christie…On Trump…
It’s a buddy thing. Just to destroy the evil Hillary. Honest. I’m not angling for a gig. Honest. Just look at me. I’m a square guy. And I’ll rip your fucking throat out if you say otherwise.

This is all CYA.

‘I’m doing my job, really. No, seriously, I am. Really.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:17:27am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I keep on forgetting that you’re a Republican still.

Me too

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:17:50am

Christie on respect. Help me off the floor.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:17:54am

Wow. Just saw that Detroit BS.

Bernie who?

He just blew it for me. I’m a car guy and a Detroit lover. Damn that was a low blow.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:00am

re: #104 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Don’t worry.

I’m sure if we read his full accounting of how he perceives this situation, it would turn out he’s wrong.

Haha true.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:03am

The real target of Romney’s speech was Hillary Clinton. The GOP establishment is terrified that nominating Trump will hand her the presidency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:04am

re: #107 Lidane

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:38am

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

I disagree. The origin of Trump is in the GOP going for xenophobia as a political weapon more heavily than before. Bennie-boy is making excuses.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:40am

re: #92 KGxvi

27%, plus or minus

If Trump is the R candidate, he’ll get at least 45% of the votes cast, although if (an optomistic) 60% of the population votes, that’s your 27%.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:18:45am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s early for me so I was like “why does this standard right-wing Twitter talking point deserve extra incredulity this morning?”

And then I finally registered that it was tweeted by the Sanders Twitter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:19:24am

re: #115 ObserverArt

Wow. Just saw that Detroit BS.

Bernie who?

He just blew it for me. I’m a car guy and a Detroit lover. Damn that was a low blow.

I live in Detroit (OK above 8 Mile) and my house doesn’t look like that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:19:43am

re: #115 ObserverArt

Wow. Just saw that Detroit BS.

Bernie who?

He just blew it for me. I’m a car guy and a Detroit lover. Damn that was a low blow.

Maybe VB can help me out here but it’s my understanding that Detroit is seeing a little bit of a rebound. I have a soft spot for Detroit too actually. I’ve never lived there but it was where two of my aunts and one of my uncles were born and the first city my grandparents lived in after they got married due to my grandfather’s job. Plus I hate to see any American city made into a punchline.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:20:55am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

I live in Detroit (OK above 8 Mile) and my house doesn’t look like that.

There should be a photo montage of gorgeous Detroit homes and businesses (with a #ThanksObama or something) to shoot right back at anyone tweeting that crap.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:21:08am

re: #120 stpaulbear

If Trump is the R candidate, he’ll get at least 45% of the votes cast, although if (an optomistic) 60% of the population votes, that’s your 27%.

Trump is so polarizing I think we will have a record turnout in November, assuming he is the nominee.

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TedStriker  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:21:13am

re: #34 Dr. Matt

Trump campaign co-chair arrested for conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States

And the hits keep coming…..

The wheels of justice may grind slow, but they grind exceedingly fine.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:21:24am

re: #121 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s early for me so I was like “why does this standard right-wing Twitter talking point deserve extra incredulity this morning?”

And then I finally registered that it was tweeted by the Sanders Twitter.

I can’t help but to be continued to be disappointed with how this campaign is run. Hard to believe last summer I was all ready to vote for Bernie based on principle.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:22:06am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

There should be a photo montage of gorgeous Detroit homes and businesses (with a #ThanksObama or something) to shoot right back at anyone tweeting that crap.

Bernie’s just too damn negative for me. Okay, yes Bernie we do have problems in our society. Let’s talk about making them better rather than bitching all the goddamned time.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:22:55am

re: #62 nines09

Will the real message be in blinked Morse Code?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:23:33am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Bernie’s just too damn negative for me. Okay, yes Bernie we do have problems in our society. Let’s talk about making them better rather than bitching all the goddamned time.

You forgot, Hillary is the mean nasty negative one.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:23:42am

I’m still pretty annoyed at Mrs. Sanders saying that black voters aren’t voting for her husband because they don’t know him. I think the African-American voters of South Caorlina especially got to know Bernie pretty well and made their preference known.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:24:07am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:24:52am

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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That’s very odd.

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:24:57am

Christie explaining his face behind Trump at the, no it was a presser, not a hostage situation, or a hallucinogenic haze….Nope. Just him standing there and drinking in the magnificence of just being there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:25:10am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Maybe VB can help me out here but it’s my understanding that Detroit is seeing a little bit of a rebound. I have a soft spot for Detroit too actually. I’ve never lived there but it was where two of my aunts and one of my uncles were born and the first city my grandparents lived in after they got married due to my grandfather’s job. Plus I hate to see any American city made into a punchline.

There is a revitalization of downtown. However I have a problem with that in that most of the properties are being bought up by Dan Gilbert (Quicken Loans) and he owns everything in sight, and everybody works for him like the second coming of Henry Ford.

What we need here is a multitude of different businesses and industries and that is not happening right now.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:25:28am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chris Christie defends Trump endorsement, “I believe Donald Trump is the best person to beat Hillary Clinton.”

Because the GOP has absolutely no plan beyond beating Hillary Cinton. Just like their plan for Iraq.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:25:32am
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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:25:55am

I was listening to a local radio show dude, who’s pretty moderate (Republican) by today’s standard. He loves Mitt, thought he did great. They talked a lot about how awful Trump is, but failed to mention he is their own creation and that the real problem is their own party.

Mitt won’t change a thing. In fact, he probably made things worse.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:26:35am

Still relevant after all these years:

Green Day - American Idiot [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

I can’t take all the stupid today. I’ve got this album on repeat instead.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:26:39am

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

There is a revitalization of downtown. However I have a problem with that in that most of the properties are being bought up by Dan Gilbert (Quicken Loans) and he owns everything in sight, and everybody works for him like the second coming of Henry Ford.

What we need here is a multitude of different businesses and industries and that is not happening right now.

Yeah, that sounds like the right approach. I’m familiar with Gilbert since he’s the Cleveland Cavailers owner in the NBA. I like your idea of different businesses and industries. Thanks for your input. Too often the people I see rag on Detroit the most are people who have never stepped foot there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:26:42am
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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:26:44am

What the goddamn hell is this shit?

Chelsea Clinton Asked If Her Dad Targets Young Girls

Saw it at a race forum I check and do some work at.

This was at YouTube where I followed the link back.

Published on Oct 9, 2015

Chelsea Clinton Asked If Her Dad Targets Young Girls

At a recent book-signing in Austin, Texas, author/activist Robert Morrow asks Chelsea Clinton point-blank if Webb Hubbell is her real father, and if Bill Clinton targets young girls for sexual purposes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:26:46am

re: #132 Charles Johnson

The ones who feel that Obama has been too liberal on gun control and don’t want to see Hillary continue those policies, I bet.

Possibly not even on the gun control side of things.

The same was true in MA, I believe, and the above explanation was what I saw that made some sense out of it, possibly. I mean, let’s face it, Hillary is running supporting Obama’s record, and Sanders …well, not so much.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:27:04am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

That’s very odd.

I’m not sure it is. Much like Trump or RONPAUL, a lot of Sanders voters are voting for a personality, not for a coherent set of policies.

WAH BLAH MIDDLE CLASS isn’t explicitly more or less liberal than Obama’s administration.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:27:55am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I bet the Democratic Party of NJ wishes they had ran a better campaign against this oblivious asshole in 2013 but to be fair this was when he was still riding high off of his Sandy’s good will and political capital where Christe looked to like he could sometimes be a decent person.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:28:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:28:11am

re: #142 ObserverArt

What the goddamn hell is this shit?

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Saw it at a race forum I check and do some work at.

This was at YouTube where I followed the link back.

Ah Robert Morrow, the lunatic who is the new county GOP chair down in Austin area.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:28:13am

re: #134 nines09

Christie explaining his face behind Trump at the, no it was a presser, not a hostage situation, or a hallucinogenic haze….Nope. Just him standing there and drinking in the magnificence of just being there.

“Did you know that he has a really exceptional ass? I couldn’t take my eyes off of it.”

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:29:20am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Christie is as good at burning bridges as he is at closing them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:29:40am

re: #142 ObserverArt

What the goddamn hell is this shit?

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Larger

Saw it at a race forum I check and do some work at.

This was at YouTube where I followed the link back.

Chelsea is a cool character.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:29:41am

re: #142 ObserverArt

What the goddamn hell is this shit?

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Video

Saw it at a race forum I check and do some work at.

This was at YouTube where I followed the link back.

Man I have to hand it to Chelsea. If someone dickhead talked about my father like that, I’d be really tempted.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:30:02am

re: #149 De Kolta Chair

Christie is as good at burning bridges as he is at closing them.

Man of the People

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:30:11am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah Robert Morrow, the lunatic who is the new county GOP chair down in Austin area.

Isn’t Austin Alex Jones’ hometurf? I bet Morrow has some ties to him.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:30:37am

re: #149 De Kolta Chair

Christie is as good at burning bridges as he is at closing them.

“Whatever, NJ’s a sh*thole, anyway.”

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BlueGrl21  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:30:57am

The only Republican I think could make a difference at this point is Paul Ryan. He’s spoken out in drips but he would have to go all in. Problem is, he won’t run for the presidency so who does he throw his support behind against Trump, Cruz? He won’t do it. I disagree with pretty much every position he holds but he’s ethical.

I am sure the Republican old guard is pressuring him hard, though.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:31:50am

re: #155 BlueGrl21

The only Republican who I think could make a difference is Ronald Reagan, and he has the unfortunate complication of being dead.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:31:52am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah Robert Morrow, the lunatic who is the new county GOP chair down in Austin area.

Well, that was dirty politics for sure.

I will give Chelsea all the credit for handling it the way she did. That is the product of growing up in Clinton Political World. And she learned. A lot. Speaks to how well she was raised…in my opinion.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:32:20am

Has Christie had his presser yet?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:32:41am

re: #155 BlueGrl21

The only Republican I think could make a difference at this point is Paul Ryan. He’s spoken out in drips but he would have to go all in. Problem is, he won’t run for the presidency so who does he throw his support behind against Trump, Cruz? He won’t do it. I disagree with pretty much every position he holds but he’s ethical.

I am sure the Republican old guard is pressuring him hard, though.

Well he got drafted into being Speaker when he didn’t want to. If there is a white knight, he and Romney appear to be the two most logical candidates to play that role.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:32:49am

re: #156 Testy Toad T

The only Republican who I think could make a difference is Ronald Reagan, and he has the unfortunate complication of being dead.

Maybe Nixon’s machine could take Trump down. Proving once and for all that the best way to combat a giant asshole is an even larger one.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:33:00am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Not that odd if you think about Bernie supporters and read liberal as “supportive of minorities”. That’s a very white crowd and, based on a lot of things being said, it has some issues dealing with people of color. Just because they’re (D) doesn’t mean they can’t be racist, especially subconsciously so.

Not saying that this is necessarily the case, but it is an explanation for something that doesn’t seem to make sense.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:33:32am

re: #158 Jenner7

Has Christie had his presser yet?

Yes, references to it are above.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:33:52am

The other reason there are a lot of Sanders supporters who support less liberal policies than Obama is because there are a lot of voters who have bought into the Clinton FUD over the years. They’ll probably hold their nose and vote for her in November, but they really just dislike her on a personal level.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:34:12am

re: #158 Jenner7

Has Christie had his presser yet?

Yeah. I think he said he was going on vacation next week.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:34:13am

re: #161 Whack-A-Mole

Not that odd if you think about Bernie supporters and read liberal as “supportive of minorities”. That’s a very white crowd and, based on a lot of things being said, it has some issues dealing with people of color. Just because they’re (D) doesn’t mean they can’t be racist, especially subconsciously so.

Not saying that this is necessarily the case, but it is an explanation for something that doesn’t seem to make sense.

I guess so. I am just shocked those who want less liberal policies than Obama would be voting for Bernie.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:34:23am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, let’s just call it a day, and start Friday now…

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I’m sad now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:34:46am

re: #163 Testy Toad T

The other reason there are a lot of Sanders supporters who support less liberal policies than Obama is because there are a lot of voters who have bought into the Clinton FUD over the years. They’ll probably hold their nose and vote for her in November, but they really just dislike her on a personal level.

That is true as well. Probably the types that would have gone Webb’s way if he had stayed in.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:34:49am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

Okay, thanks. Need to get caught up.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:35:20am

Bragging on Snapchat did them in…

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:35:34am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Maybe Nixon’s machine could take Trump down. Proving once and for all that the best way to combat a giant asshole is an even larger one.

Nixon wasn’t half the asshole that any one of these GOP candidates is. Not even close.

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:37:18am

re: #158 Jenner7

Has Christie had his presser yet?

Still going on. He’s back to playing the Asshole Governor. Snide and condescending as ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:37:33am

Jane Sanders on CNN saying the Romney attack on Trump is just like the establishment attacks on Bernie, and she kept saying how much fun it will be to run against Trump.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:38:21am

re: #142 ObserverArt

What the goddamn hell is this shit?

Well played by Chelsea. I would’ve had him taken out back and garroted.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:38:38am

re: #126 TedStriker

The wheels of justice may grind slow, but they grind exceedingly fine.

Here is his batshit crazy wife: rawstory.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:38:48am

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

Bragging on Snapchat did them in…

Oh, was that bad?

/

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:38:49am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Done at the right place, this could work but with Dominos nope.

Up here, Dominos is the best pizza. I am shocked (and somewhat dismayed) at how good a Dominos pizza is here. I don’t order pizza from anyone else anymore.

And that pie? Sorry…looks pretty darned good to me. But, hey, it’s pie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:39:08am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Well, that was dirty politics for sure.

I will give Chelsea all the credit for handling it the way she did. That is the product of growing up in Clinton Political World. And she learned. A lot. Speaks to how well she was raised…in my opinion.

Morrow tweets about the Clintons (and others) are extremely disgusting. Rachel Maddow did a segment about him last night and she couldn’t read some of them out loud.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:39:25am

re: #81 KGxvi

If I recall correctly, in order to be nominated at the convention, a candidate must win at least 8 primaries/caucuses. At least on the first ballot. So basically, they need the Not-Trumps to actually win states so they can get on the floor ballot. Cruz has won 4 states, and perhaps he’s got a chance to win a few more in the midwest where the evangelical vote would be big.

Out of curiosity…does it say they have to win at least 8 primary/caucauses in the same election year?

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:39:33am

re: #158 Jenner7

Has Christie had his presser yet?

Yes. The highlights:

1. “I’ve been out of the Presidential race for 23 days and I’ve been in New Jersey for 19 days. See? I know where I live!”

2. “Who cares if the newspapers here hate me? No one reads them anyway.”

3. “I just got back but I’m going on vacation next week for my wedding anniversary.”

4. “Trump isn’t holding me hostage. I think he’s the best to beat Hillary. Cruz and those other guys suck.”

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:39:36am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Maybe Nixon’s machine could take Trump down. Proving once and for all that the best way to combat a giant asshole is an even larger one.

If Trump is an asshole, maybe that means the only one with a chance to beat him is Ted Cruz:

(NSFW)

Click to Reveal

Team America - Dicks, pussies and assholes

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:39:53am
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BlueGrl21  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:40:25am

re: #159 Big Beautiful Door

Well he got drafted into being Speaker when he didn’t want to. If there is a white knight, he and Romney appear to be the two most logical candidates to play that role.

He’s chair of the Cleveland convention and is in the strongest position to drive the eventual nominee if it gets thrown into a brokered convention. Want to know where the party is going to go? Watch Young Blue Eyes.

He can’t stand Trump.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:41:50am

re: #34 Dr. Matt

Trump campaign co-chair arrested for conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States

And the hits keep coming…..

Here’s his crazy NH representative birther wife, who “has never been involved in politics”.

Susan DeLemus, who tells CNN exactly why she likes Trump so much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:42:13am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:42:33am

re: #76 Lidane

Wow. There are no words. Ever.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:42:39am

Mittens can always run a third party. He should. If mittens wants to take out his party good, run independent, siphoning off tRump votes. Brilliant. Reince didn’t want to freshen up his resume anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:12am
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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:12am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh my god, that is the most Carsony response possible.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:13am

Ok, I’m feeling a little vicious at the moment. I didn’t get a chance to read this whole thread but I have been reading a lot and I think people don’t know the first thing about the GOP establishment. They are all about the power. They don’t care what Donald Trump would do if he gets elected. He’ll do exactly what they want him to do. In spite of the teabagger caucus, Congress is doing exactly what the GOP wants it to do. The GOP doesn’t fear a Donald Trump Presidency, they fear a Donald Trump candidacy. They’re afraid he’s going to set the movement back far enough that the gains they made in 2010 and cemented in place with voter ID laws will fall apart. The George W. Bush presidency is to blame for Obama, Obamacare, gay rights, peace, recovery, and humanity. That administration was so bad that the Democrats picked up a shitload of seats in 2006 and even more in 08 or else they would never have passed Obamacare, for example.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:18am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

I keep expecting to see a life size Jesus doll sitting on the couch behind Ben.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:28am
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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:43:29am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG!!! Tan jacket! Everyone freak out!!
////////////////////////////////////

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:44:29am
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:45:13am

re: #149 De Kolta Chair

Christie is as good at burning bridges as he is at closing them.

Had. To. Steal. That!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:45:58am
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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:46:52am

re: #193 Kragar

(Holds up doll) “Governor, can you point to where he (Trump) touched you?”

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:17am

re: #156 Testy Toad T

The only Republican who I think could make a difference is Ronald Reagan, and he has the unfortunate complication of being dead.

If he wasn’t dead, he would be to the new GOP as soon as he opened his mouth.

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Brian J.  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:18am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hillary Clinton was President in 1960? Who knew?

Seriously, does the rest of Michigan really resent (or pity) Detroit enough for this tactic to work?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:21am

Why did Hillary bomb out all of the Japanese and European factories in the 1940s and then invent the oil crisis and then design the Vega?

Just fuck off with this stupid holier-than-thou protectionist nonsense.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:43am

re: #176 MsJ

Up here, Dominos is the best pizza. I am shocked (and somewhat dismayed) at how good a Dominos pizza is here. I don’t order pizza from anyone else anymore.

And that pie? Sorry…looks pretty darned good to me. But, hey, it’s pie.

I plead gulity. I’m a pizza snob.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:45am

re: #107 Lidane

I admit she’s an expert on nonsensical attacks.

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:53am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does Sanders always live in the past.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:47:57am
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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:48:10am

Had to turn up my music because Drumpf’s campaign manager is currently on the phone with CNN ranting nonstop about Mitt. Before him, they had Katrina Pierson on the phone ranting about Mitt.

Up next: CNN live coverage of Drumpf ranting about Mitt.

When did Idiocracy become real life?

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:49:00am

re: #85 Nyet


The first image is in Montreal, the second is in Rockingham according to Google image search.

Burlington is listed as one of the top livable cities and I think Bernie was a good mayor. He kept green spaces and public spaces and fought the corporate interests from ruining the waterfront.

As mayor, Sanders led extensive downtown revitalization projects. One of his signature achievements was the improvement of Burlington’s Lake Champlain waterfront.[12] In 1981, Sanders campaigned against the unpopular plans by Burlington developer Tony Pomerleau to convert the then-industrial[65] waterfront property owned by the Central Vermont Railway into expensive condominiums, hotels, and offices.[66] Sanders ran under the slogan “Burlington is not for sale” and successfully supported a plan that redeveloped the waterfront area into a mixed-use district featuring housing, parks, and public space.[66] Today, the waterfront area includes many parks and miles of public beach and bike paths, a boathouse, and a science center.[66]

Doesn’t excuse that absurd Bernie tweet about Clinton being responsible for Detroit but this is not a good response.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:49:44am

re: #179 Lidane

Yes. The highlights:

1. “I’ve been out of the Presidential race for 23 days and I’ve been in New Jersey for 19 days. See? I know where I live!”

2. “Who cares if the newspapers here hate me? No one reads them anyway.”

3. “I just got back but I’m going on vacation next week for my wedding anniversary.”

4. “Trump isn’t holding me hostage. I think he’s the best to beat Hillary. Cruz and those other guys suck.”

Hmmm. Where’s he staying on his vacation?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:49:49am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Here is stuff Donald Trump said pre-emptively about Mitt this morning:

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Pretty timid tweets for Trump. Where are the demeaning insults? Come on Trump. You can do better than that.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:49:50am

re: #183 Skip Intro

Here’s his crazy NH representative birther wife, who “has never been involved in politics”.

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Jerry Delemus with the phallic .50 cal sniper rifle at Bundy Ranch

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:50:11am

re: #205 blueraven

The first image is in Montreal, the second is in Rockingham according to Google image search.

Burlington is listed as one of the top livable cities and I think Bernie was a good mayor. He kept green spaces and public spaces and fought the corporate interests from ruining the waterfront.

Doesn’t excuse that absurd Bernie tweet about Clinton being responsible for Detroit but this is not a good response.

Thanks gotta be accurate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:50:18am
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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:50:20am

re: #204 Lidane

CNN (MSNBC, Fox) political coverage: yammering underscored by dramatic music, interspersed by commercials.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:51:13am

re: #193 Kragar

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LOL. **Snort**

So what does Trump have on Christie? Must be something big given how cowed Christie is in Trump’s presence.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:51:36am

re: #205 blueraven

The first image is in Montreal, the second is in Rockingham according to Google image search.

Burlington is listed as one of the top livable cities and I think Bernie was a good mayor. He kept green spaces and public spaces and fought the corporate interests from ruining the waterfront.

Doesn’t excuse that absurd Bernie tweet about Clinton being responsible for Detroit but this is not a good response.

Thanks for the factcheck!

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cat-tikvah  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:51:53am

re: #43 Nyet

47% anyone?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:51:59am

re: #107 Lidane

JUST IN: Palin goes after Romney’s “nonsensical attack” on Trump

Give them all broken beer bottles. WHERE ARE THE DAMN BEER BOTTLES?

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:52:06am

re: #208 FormerDirtDart

Absolutely nothing wrong with those guys. Not a thing.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:52:56am

Saw this on fb…had to share.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:53:01am

re: #216 nines09

Absolutely nothing wrong with those guys. Not a thing.

Except some of them may remain unfortunately unarrested.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:53:05am

re: #191 Lidane

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Sure you did. You laughed out loud and then peed your pants out of fear.

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nines09  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:54:06am

re: #218 Big Beautiful Door

Point.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:54:07am

Imagine Donald Trump’s Supreme Court picks.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:54:12am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

I plead gulity. I’m a pizza snob.

Since I am not in Chicago any longer, this little town I now call home has limited options for everything. Trust me, Dominos is the best thing here. I tried what hubby said as the best pizza in town and I will only say…it wasn’t the best anything.

I drool for Eduardos (and since I am going back home for a few days in a couple of weeks, I might just partake…unfortunately, there’s too much other good food to decide which to enjoy for too few days).

The one thing about this small town life that I hate is the food options. Thankfully, I am an exceptional chef, but sometimes the chef needs a break.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:54:35am

re: #213 Nyet

Thanks for the factcheck!

You are very welcome. I was just reading last night about Burlington and the Bernie years as Mayor and that tweet just didn’t ring true.

Of course neither does the original tweet. Ugh!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:55:46am

re: #222 MsJ

Since I am not in Chicago any longer, this little town I now call home has limited options for everything. Trust me, Dominos is the best thing here. I tried what hubby said as the best pizza in town and I will only say…it wasn’t the best anything.

I drool for Eduardos (and since I am going back home for a few days in a couple of weeks, I might just partake…unfortunately, there’s too much other good food to decide which to enjoy for too few days).

The one thing about this small town life that I hate is the food options. Thankfully, I am an exceptional chef, but sometimes the chef needs a break.

True that. Speaking of which, can’t wait to go to Chicago for the first time this summer. That should be a fun little trip. Gonna do one day of touristy stuff and a night at Wrigley too. Good bar scene on the North side?

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:56:25am

Do the Stones know that Trump is playing their Greatest Hits album at his rallies?

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:57:20am

re: #217 darthstar

Saw this on fb…had to share.

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Comparing these two like this is completely asinine. It’s like comparing a sniffle to cancer.

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cat-tikvah  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:57:35am

re: #97 makeitstop

New Jersey to Chris Christie: You are dead to me.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:57:40am

The Zen of Venn…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:57:57am

LOL

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:57:58am

re: #221 jaunte

Imagine Donald Trump’s Supreme Court picks.

Is my sister available? What about Judge Judy?

I wouldn’t put him past blatant nepotism like that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:58:39am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Hypocrites.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:58:47am

re: #217 darthstar

A pretty stupid mbf pic.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:59:16am

One thing I forgot to mention while listening to local dude who loves Mitt, hates Donald. He had some professor on that said either way (brokered convention or Donald’s easy path to nomination), his party is screwed. My reaction:

Awwwwwwwwww….

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:59:39am

re: #228 FormerDirtDart

The Zen of Venn…

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The first circle should be vanishingly small.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 10:59:57am

re: #233 Jenner7

One thing I forgot to mention while listening to local dude who loves Mitt, hates Donald. He had some professor on that said either way, his party is screwed. My reaction:

Awwwwwwwwww….

There are people who love Mtit?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:12am

re: #234 Nyet

The first circle should be vanishingly small.

I was going to say.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:28am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Well, this is Utah and the local dude is Mormon and Republican. So….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:40am

Big crowd waiting for The Donald in Maine.

DONT THESE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS????

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:42am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Rafalca?

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Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:48am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

There are people who love Mtit?

Yep, just like there are people who love the Chevy Vega or Reliant Robin. Mad, crazy people, but they exist.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:00:51am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

There are people who love Mtit?

The Romney clan is rather large

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:01:23am

re: #237 Jenner7

Well, this is Utah and the local dude is Mormon and Republican. So….

Oh yeah that makes sense then.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:01:36am

Trump=

True
Racism
Under
My
Presidency.

Some guy has this shirt on at the rally. People are taking pics with him.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:01:42am

Oh FFS…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:01:44am

re: #241 KGxvi

The Romney clan is rather large

I meant outside the Romney clan heh but true.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:02:12am

re: #220 nines09

Point.

Hopefully to be rectified soon by the arrests of any that remain at large.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:02:21am

re: #85 Nyet

Charles, can you please delete my comment with the misleading tweet? I don’t like misinformation.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:02:31am

re: #198 Brian J.

Hillary Clinton was President in 1960? Who knew?

Seriously, does the rest of Michigan really resent (or pity) Detroit enough for this tactic to work?

I hate to say it, but yes. Detroit is an island in the state of Michigan. Many of the White folks up there resent Detroit and think all it does is take their money to keep all the Blacks in food stamps and welfare checks.

Also…it was/is still one of the states with many militia groups. That says something too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:02:44am

re: #244 FormerDirtDart

Oh FFS…

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They Photoshopped the Trump logo too.

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:02:53am

re: #232 Nyet

A pretty stupid mbf pic.

Yep. Every time someone left of center claims Hillary is as bad as anyone running on the Republican side or otherwise “horrible and corrupt” is rewarding the GOP for 30 years of outright lies and bullshit exaggerations.

And I don’t even like her. I’ll vote for her holding my nose. Still this is asinine.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:03:59am

re: #230 KGxvi

Is my sister available? What about Judge Judy?

I wouldn’t put him past blatant nepotism like that.

However, I understand that his sister is actually a pretty good judge.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:04:17am

Maine’s wacky governor on now….

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:04:26am

Thank you :)

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:04:51am
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:05:01am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

True that. Speaking of which, can’t wait to go to Chicago for the first time this summer. That should be a fun little trip. Gonna do one day of touristy stuff and a night at Wrigley too. Good bar scene on the North side?

How far north? If you do near north (within a couple of [1-5) miles of downtown) go to the area near DePaul University. There’s the fondue place DF mentioned a few days ago (Geja’s) and if you stay in that area, there are many places to go.

Closer to downtown would be “Rush St” and the area south of “Rush” - which leads directly to downtown. Not all the places are on Rush, look at Division St near Rush. Also, just west of Rush off Division is Wells St which is where Zanies comedy club and Second City are located. Not bars, per se, but both would be worth a look see. The area I was speaking of near DePaul is just north of Second City maybe a mile or so…close to what’s called the Lincoln Park neighborhood.

Right outside of downtown proper (where the Rock and Roll McDonalds is) has lots of great restaurants and bars.

I can give you more on restaurants than bars since I am not, and never have been, a bar person. I used to go dancing back in the day but just hanging out in a bar wasn’t something that was part of my regular experiences.

Hope that helps.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:05:19am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s why the speech. He’s not fooling anyone. He’s basically pulled a Marco Rubio and been more worried about his political career and lining his pockets than doing his damned job. Seems to be a lot of that going around these days…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:05:30am

re: #248 ObserverArt

I hate to say it, but yes. Detroit is an island in the state of Michigan. Many of the White folks up there resent Detroit and think all it does is take their money to keep all the Blacks in food stamps and welfare checks.

Also…it was/is still one of the states with many militia groups. That says something too.

Wayne, Oakland, Macomb (3 counties that comprise the “Metropolitan Detroit Area”) and Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor) and Genesee (Flint) are “Liberal Michigan”

Everything else is blood red.

Why do you think we have this asshole in Lansing?

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:05:39am
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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:05:49am

Boston Herald Idiot on CNN: “This speech is going to backfire on Mitt Romney because he interfered in democracy!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:06:06am

re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Maine’s wacky governor on now….

re: #255 MsJ

How far north? If you do near north (within a couple of [1-5) miles of downtown) go to the area near DePaul University. There’s the fondue place DF mentioned a few days ago (Geja’s) and if you stay in that area, there are many places to go.

Closer to downtown would be “Rush St” and the area south of “Rush” - which leads directly to downtown. Not all the places are on Rush, look at Division St near Rush. Also, just west of Rush off Division is Wells St which is where Zanies comedy club and Second City are located. Not bars, per se, but both would be worth a look see. The area I was speaking of near DePaul is just north of Second City maybe a mile or so…close to what’s called the Lincoln Park neighborhood.

Right outside of downtown proper (where the Rock and Roll McDonalds is) has lots of great restaurants and bars.

I can give you more on restaurants than bars since I am not, and never have been, a bar person. I used to go dancing back in the day but just hanging out in a bar wasn’t something that was part of my regular experiences.

Hope that helps.

I’m planning to get a hotel fairly close to Wrigley. Not sure yet. Once I get my plans settled, I’ll talk to ya though. Wrigley is pretty close to the Lake right?

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Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:06:46am

re: #258 jaunte

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“I never saw myself as a member of the Republican establishment.”

Says the guy who gave the keynote address at the 2012 Republican National Convention.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:07:02am

re: #258 jaunte

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Another stopped clock moment.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:07:15am

re: #261 Targetpractice

He’s obviously been taking Trump lessons.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:07:17am

re: #261 Targetpractice

“I never saw myself as a member of the Republican establishment.”

Says the guy who gave the keynote address at the 2012 Republican National Convention.

No kidding.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:07:54am

re: #251 Big Beautiful Door

However, I understand that his sister is actually a pretty good judge.

I’d have to look some of her decisions. But it’s unlikely she’d get a nomination, she’s 78 and has taken senior status with the Third Circuit. (basically, semi-retirement)

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:07:59am

Christie is the very definition of the GOPe.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:08:09am

Trumpian Reality Suppression Field: Engaged.

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iossarian  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:08:17am

re: #250 Jack Burton

I think people are starting to come around to Clinton just because of the tone of some Bernie supporters. Regardless of what you think about the content (policy differences, overall outlook, ethics etc.), they have not been smart at all in their approach, IMO.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:09:05am

re: #268 iossarian

I’ve seen some Clinton supporters being dickish, but what I’ve seen doesn’t compare to the Bernie supporters.

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:09:37am

Is this LePage talking? Man, what an asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:09:40am

True
Reptiles
Unite
Mexican
Predators

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:09:56am

re: #251 Big Beautiful Door

However, I understand that his sister is actually a pretty good judge.

Is there any law preventing Trump from being both Pres and SC justice? Sounds like the perfect solution to me.

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iossarian  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:10:10am

re: #269 Nyet

I’ve seen some Clinton supporters being dickish, but what I’ve seen doesn’t compare to the Bernie supporters.

Yeah, there’s some spiking the football etc. But it’s not on the same level.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:10:22am

Was Trump ever involved with the Tea Parties, their rallies? I don’t seem to recall that. There are clips of him praising the stimulus, which because Obama the tea parties hated.

Kind of funny that the anti-establishment candidate to emerge in 2016 is not a TP guy/gal.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:10:22am

re: #270 makeitstop

Is this LePage talking? Man, what an asshole.

I would bet porbably. He’s the guy who threw a gasket when he discovered a mural celebrating unions in Maine’s capitol building.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:10:43am

Here comes T-Rump.

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The Engineer Lobuno  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:10:50am

re: #268 iossarian

I think people are starting to come around to Clinton just because of the tone of some Bernie supporters. Regardless of what you think about the content (policy differences, overall outlook, ethics etc.), they have not been smart at all in their approach, IMO.

With his latest twit, Sanders turned me off permanently.

re: #269 Nyet

I’ve seen some Clinton supporters being dickish, but what I’ve seen doesn’t compare to the Bernie supporters.

There’s always this guy on your side you just wished was on the other side.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:11:19am

Someones sign ripped up already.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:12:48am

re: #277 The Engineer Lobuno

That, plus things like this totally uncalled for comment:

dailykos.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:12:55am

re: #277 The Engineer Lobuno

With his latest twit, Sanders turned me off permanently.

There’s always this guy on your side you just wished was on the other side.

Man that’s harsh. I like having Bernie on our side more often than not. I do think there’s been a lot of obnoxiousness by the Sanders camp though and it’s why I laugh when I see them try to play victim. You don’t get to cast aspersions on people’s progressivism simply because you’re not in love with Bernie. Thankfully my brothers who support Bernie have not done that to me and I’m hoping it’s because they know that I’ve been following politics a long time now.

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jc717  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:12:59am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Isn’t Austin Alex Jones’ hometurf? I bet Morrow has some ties to him.

I hadn’t heard about Morrow until yesterday, but I’ve been morbidly fascinated by him since. It’s like watching a continuous train-wreck take place.

At first I wasn’t sure if he was simply a loon or a performance artist. But, given how long he’s been at this, I have to go with loon.
He is a JFK conspiracy nut (LBJ did it).
He co-authored a book with conspiracy author and former Trump adviser Roger Stone.

He did an Alex Jones Info Wars interview during the 2012 primaries where he trashed Perry.

He’s not partisan, just unhinged; he goes after the Bushes and Rick Perry with as much vitriol as he directs against the Clintons.
He seems preoccupied with sexual hypocrisy of bible thumping Republicans. And, when asked in an interview if there was a president who wasn’t a sexual deviant or hypocrite, he praised Jimmy Carter.

He’s also articulate (though extremely vulgar) and a Princeton grad.

He attributed his win to his name being listed first on the ballot.

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:13:03am

re: #268 iossarian

I think people are starting to come around to Clinton just because of the tone of some Bernie supporters. Regardless of what you think about the content (policy differences, overall outlook, ethics etc.), they have not been smart at all in their approach, IMO.

Bernie supporters have very quickly become #1 on the list of people I unfollow on social media. Vastly surpassing the RWNJs. They apparently live in a lefty suburb of that Fact-free world that most of the right lives in. Right next to Alex Jones.

They also seem to not understand math, and think it’s a personal attack.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:13:17am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

I’m planning to get a hotel fairly close to Wrigley. Not sure yet. Once I get my plans settled, I’ll talk to ya though. Wrigley is pretty close to the Lake right?

Yes, it’s maybe a mile-ish from the lake. Honestly, I wouldn’t stay in that area. Unless there is a game there is little to do and it’s ok-ish as far as neighborhoods go (put it this way, I wouldn’t want to just wander about the Wrigley area at night). There are some good food/drink places down Clark (from the corner of Wrigley, which is Clark and Addison, south on Clark). Further south at Clark and Diversey are more options for food and drink.

Check some of the discount sites and the ratings. Unless there is a reason to be near Wrigley, that’s not a great starting/central point for much of anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:13:57am

re: #278 Jenner7

Someone’s sign ripped up already.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:14:18am

Now Wonkette forgets to hat tip LGF==>

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:14:39am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

All I’ve written about Bernie notwithstanding, if he, God forbid, wins the nomination, I’ll support him 100% (mentally that is, not being an American etc.).

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:14:45am

re: #194 MsJ

Had. To. Steal. That!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:14:46am

re: #283 MsJ

Yes, it’s maybe a mile-ish from the lake. Honestly, I wouldn’t stay in that area. Unless there is a game there is little to do and it’s ok-ish as far as neighborhoods go (put it this way, I wouldn’t want to just wander about the Wrigley area at night). There are some good food/drink places down Clark (from the corner of Wrigley, which is Clark and Addison, south on Clark). Further south at Clark and Diversey are more options for food and drink.

Check some of the discount sites and the ratings. Unless there is a reason to be near Wrigley, that’s not a great starting/central point for much of anything.

Oh okay. Well thanks for letting me know that. Glad to know that about the Wrigley area. Besides I can always use public transit to get around.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:14:50am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Man that’s harsh. I like having Bernie on our side more often than not. I do think there’s been a lot of obnoxiousness by the Sanders camp though and it’s why I laugh when I see them try to play victim. You don’t get to cast aspersions on people’s progressivism simply because you’re not in love with Bernie. Thankfully my brothers who support Bernie have not done that to me and I’m hoping it’s because they know that I’ve been following politics a long time now.

Hate to say it but I am with The Engineer Lobuno. Bernie and his supporters turn me off more and more daily. I would love to chalk it up to right-wing games but this shit is coming from Bernie himself.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:15:24am

re: #286 Nyet

All I’ve written about Bernie notwithstanding, if he, God forbid, wins the nomination, I’ll support him 100% (mentally that is, not being an American etc.).

Oh absolutely. I’ll happily support him against any Republican. I just don’t think he’s all that and I don’t like my progressive bonafidies being questioned because of that.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:15:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:16:31am
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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:17:23am

re: #232 Nyet

A pretty stupid mbf pic.

Nothing magical about it. It’s just funny. We’re going to have a popularity contest for president and each party is sending their least likable candidate to the show.

Don’t for one minute think this year’s presidential race will be about issues. They’ve been blowing that smoke up our asses since they lost the last race on actual issues to Obama.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:17:24am

Nope. Not listening. Drumpf is on the teevee in the office and everyone is watching. Not me. I refuse.

Fuck this bigoted, orange, loudmouthed, Tribble-haired carnival barker and his cheap gold-plated campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:17:27am

re: #289 MsJ

Hate to say it but I am with The Engineer Lobuno. Bernie and his supporters turn me off more and more daily. I would love to chalk it up to right-wing games but this shit is coming from Bernie himself.

I know. I just thought wishing Bernie was on their side was harsh though they’re entitled to their opinion of course. For me, what rubs me the wrong way is short-sighted Bernie appears to me to be. And I really did not like the way his campaign just shrugged off the losses in the states they lost Tuesday as ones they were going to lose anyhow. The local Democrats and Obama worked hard ot make this state a purple state. As I said, we may not be as liberal as Vermont is but we do have a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators.

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makeitstop  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:17:51am

I think he’s drunk.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:17:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:18:39am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:18:44am

Trump complaining that “nothing gets done” from politicians.

Got Obamacare passed.

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:19:36am

re: #299 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Trump complaining that “nothing gets done” from politicians.

Got Obamacare passed.

Which they think is worse than the holocaust… assuming they aren’t the ones denying that too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:19:36am

re: #299 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Trump complaining that “nothing gets done” from politicians.

Got Obamacare passed.

Nothing gets done and then something gets done we don’t like.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:20:04am

I think someone infected Chris Christie with a Ceti eel.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:20:46am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Oh okay. Well thanks for letting me know that. Glad to know that about the Wrigley area. Besides I can always use public transit to get around.

Public transportation throughout the city itself is great, whether it’s busses or the El/subway. The train is easily accessed from the Wrigley area but as a central point of hotel, I would look at Lincoln Park or right near the Magnificent Mile. Beware cheap hotels as there will likely be transients.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:21:10am
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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:21:23am

re: #293 darthstar

Hillary Clinton’s Super Tuesday Victory Proves Likability Has Nothing to Do with Electability

Anyhoo, nothing changes the stupidity and asininity of comparing Hillary and Trump in this way.

The difference is the racist xenophobic candidate of white supremacists v. a consistent liberal.

The difference is that the Dems will have their most qualified candidate (sorry, Bernie doesn’t cut it), while the GOP their least qualified one.

Sorry, not on par by any measure.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:21:36am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:22:39am

re: #303 MsJ

Public transportation throughout the city itself is great, whether it’s busses or the El/subway. The train is easily accessed from the Wrigley area but as a central point of hotel, I would look at Lincoln Park or right near the Magnificent Mile. Beware cheap hotels as there will likely be transients.

Okay sounds good, thanks.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:22:52am
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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:23:02am

re: #305 Nyet

Thank you. I’m tired of this “they’re the same” bullshit. Nope. Not even close.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:23:26am

BWAHAHAHAAAA

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:23:27am

Hillary’s emails “so terrible” says Trump.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:23:58am
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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:23:59am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

BWAHAHAHAAAA

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Fuck her and her horrible network.

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The Engineer Lobuno  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:24:18am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I know. I just thought wishing Bernie was on their side was harsh though they’re entitled to their opinion of course. For me, what rubs me the wrong way is short-sighted Bernie appears to me to be. And I really did not like the way his campaign just shrugged off the losses in the states they lost Tuesday as ones they were going to lose anyhow. The local Democrats and Obama worked hard ot make this state a purple state. As I said, we may not be as liberal as Vermont is but we do have a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators.

I’m sorry, I replied hastily.

I wasn’t wishing Bernie to be on the other side per se, but the troublemaking followers supporters.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:24:34am

Trump back to his “great” ratings on The Apprentice.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:25:22am

re: #312 Lidane

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Yet you were fine with Kris Kobach and talking about self-deportation. Fuck off Mitt, you helped create this asshole. Stop acting like you had nothing ot do with it.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:25:32am
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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:25:43am

re: #312 Lidane

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:04am

re: #314 The Engineer Lobuno

I’m sorry, I replied hastily.

I wasn’t wishing Bernie to be on the other side per se, but the troublemaking followers.

Ohhhhhhhhh okay. Sorry I misread you. No worries. I know what you mean about the supporters. I mean some of them are good people but man some of them just annoy the crap out of me.

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:18am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:20am

re: #318 Kragar

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Ding ding and that goes with the xenophobia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:24am
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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:29am

re: #312 Lidane

Hey, Mitt. Trump didn’t say it 4 years ago, but everything else could be found on Fox, Breitbart etc.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:26:29am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

Sigh. Just sent her a DM about it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:27:11am

re: #320 Tigger2

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Wow and this was only three years after Nixon did pretty well with African-Americans. I think they saw the writing on the wall even then.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:27:25am

Sarah Palin taunts ‘silly man’ Mitt Romney — and says GOP rebukes only make Trump stronger

Actually, she might be correct for once.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:04am
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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:07am
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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:11am

I won ONE WHOLE STATE with Hispanics (which is still not true)….

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:12am

Oh wait, I forgot.

Romney accepted Trump’s endorsement already after Trump outed himself as a birther (i.e. a racist).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:14am

Rebecca’s updating the post.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:28:23am

ALL USE PEOPLE ARE CHOCKER ARTISTS!!!!!!11

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:29:21am

Fuck you, Mitt, you’re not getting out of this clean.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:30:01am

re: #305 Nyet

Hillary Clinton’s Super Tuesday Victory Proves Likability Has Nothing to Do with Electability

Anyhoo, nothing changes the stupidity and asininity of comparing Hillary and Trump in this way.

The difference is the racist xenophobic candidate of white supremacists v. a consistent liberal.

The difference is that the Dems will have the most qualified candidate (sorry, Bernie doesn’t cut it), while the GOP their least qualified one.

Sorry, not on par by any measure.

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama. And if she wants to win, she needs to get a message together about shit she wants to get done instead of simply saying that Bernie wants to do too much. Complaining that students are getting raked by financial aid institutions isn’t the same as saying the government should pay for their educations.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:30:11am

re: #331 Charles Johnson

Rebecca’s updating the post.

Looks like she did: wonkette.com scroll to the bottom.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:30:18am

re: #312 Lidane

I think the smart play for Romney would have been to hammer home how radically different Trump sounds now compared to 2012 and then openly question whether the guy had a stroke or is suffering from dementia or something. It’s sad!

It would be a tactic that is unprecedented, scandalous, and really rather reprehensible, but who gives a damn? The Donald is all of those things already, and it’s not like Mitt was ever going to run for office again. I think it might make Trump explode into a cloud of orangish puffy rage, and the media loves nothing more than to endlessly repeat scandalous things.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:31:07am

“I have a store that’s worth more than Mitt.”

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:31:08am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

Sarah Palin taunts ‘silly man’ Mitt Romney — and says GOP rebukes only make Trump stronger

Actually, she might be right for once.

Ok, you all know you want it.

“Independent, commonsense conservative patriots: now it’s our time to ramp it up, to prove even more adamantly that our movement in this time for choosing is wisely chosen by those who know what’s at stake for America,” Palin said. “The political establishment’s desperation is nailing its coffin — obviously a good thing — but we mustn’t let the Alinsky tactics used to destroy our We the People movement go unanswered.”

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:31:18am

re: #334 darthstar

those states are gone in November

C’mon.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:32:46am

re: #334 darthstar

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama.

All the more reason to give them a chance to actually have a say in the direction of the Democratic Party, so that it can become a party that the boots on the ground think can win in their districts.

Or shall they just piss off and do what us blue-state voters tell them to do?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:33:24am

re: #338 Skip Intro

Ok, you all know you want it.

Alinsky tactics!

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:33:41am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:34:17am

re: #342 jaunte

An “A” and a “D-” are the same thing. Duh.

/

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:34:25am

re: #339 Nyet

C’mon.

Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - think those will go blue?

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:34:38am

re: #343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Golden letters.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:34:41am

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a candidate talk so much about himself.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:06am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:11am

re: #305 Nyet

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:12am

re: #334 darthstar

And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama.

And that’s why Bernie is losing. He and his supporters keep dismissing the black vote. It’s insulting.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:27am

Oh please.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:40am

re: #339 Nyet

C’mon.

I love how easily “red states” are blown off as not worth the trouble.
Kentucky (one of those “red states”) went for Bill Clinton over George HW Bush in 1992, and again in 1996 beating Bob Dole.

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iossarian  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:35:46am

This is as far as I’ll go on the whole Bernie-Hillary thing:

Any one person will have their own reasons for preferring Bernie or Hillary. I have mine, you have yours. And your reasons may well be better than mine, objectively speaking. But here’s the thing: you can only go so far in trying to persuade me of that fact before your efforts become counterproductive. If you’ve laid out your case cogently once or twice, and I haven’t changed my mind, that may be very frustrating to you, but you have to accept that it’s obnoxious to keep trying beyond that point. In fact, it defeats your purpose to keep trying because the only effect at that point will be to reinforce me in my view.

And I say that as a primary-Bernie, general-either supporter.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:36:07am

re: #344 darthstar

Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - think those will go blue?

Well then, they shouldn’t have any say, should they?

///////

That line of thinking is so much fucking bullshit. Would you be saying the same thing if your preferred candidate had won? I think not.

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:36:08am

re: #334 darthstar

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama. And if she wants to win, she needs to get a message together about shit she wants to get done instead of simply saying that Bernie wants to do too much. Complaining that students are getting raked by financial aid institutions isn’t the same as saying the government should pay for their educations.

The only message Sanders has is a bunch of stuff he won’t be able to get done.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:36:52am

re: #344 darthstar

Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - think those will go blue?

Mass, VA, Nevada, Iowa; Blue and swing states IIRC.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:36:57am

re: #344 darthstar

Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - think those will go blue?

No. The point is, this Berniesphere meme has been roundly mocked here and even at DailyBern right after the Super Tuesday, now come you and repeat it.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:36:57am

re: #334 darthstar

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama. And if she wants to win, she needs to get a message together about shit she wants to get done instead of simply saying that Bernie wants to do too much. Complaining that students are getting raked by financial aid institutions isn’t the same as saying the government should pay for their educations.

I would be astonished if Bernie Sanders does much better with AA voters in the rust belt states than he did in the deep South.

So the mistakes of the Sanders campaign will be relevant in states that are critical in November.

By the way, I’d be delighted if Sanders managed to turn it around by the time we get to the rust belt primaries, but that seems most unlikely. Lessons are apparently not being learned.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:37:18am

Has Drumpf said anything of substance or is it all about himself?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:37:24am

re: #312 Lidane

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But he could look past the racist birther crap.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:37:30am

re: #344 darthstar

Georgia, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi - think those will go blue?

Well hell, why even bother to let them vote then? I mean, they live in those shitty red states, they should just move if they want a say.

That bird won’t even hunt on DKos.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:37:53am

“Every place I made robocalls for him (Mitt), he (Mitt) won.”

This is Rage Furby level gymnastics.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:39:09am

re: #340 Testy Toad T

All the more reason to give them a chance to actually have a say in the direction of the Democratic Party, so that it can become a party that the boots on the ground think can win in their districts.

Or shall they just piss off and do what us blue-state voters tell them to do?

I agree. Which is why I think Super Delegates shouldn’t be counted until the convention. Pledged (elected) Delegate count is 577-386 right now - and that’s the only number we should be looking at. Remember, Hillary was calling for Obama to drop out because she had more Super Delegates at this stage in 2008.

And yes, this isn’t 2008…Bernie’s not Obama…but I’ll continue to be skeptical of the whole process until I’m ready to concede.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:39:31am

re: #358 Lidane

Has Drumpf said anything of substance or is it all about himself?

LOL remember when the wingnuts would obsess over the number of times Obama said “I”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:39:31am

re: #358 Lidane

Has Drumpf said anything of substance or is it all about himself?

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:39:53am

Too bad anti Trump folks probably couldn’t get enough people together to make a large block at a rally that it’s noticeable that they just stand there and look bored. I think that would be more effective in stopping Trump than bringing out the folding chairs to bash over people’s heads.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:40:04am

re: #334 darthstar

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama. And if she wants to win, she needs to get a message together about shit she wants to get done instead of simply saying that Bernie wants to do too much. Complaining that students are getting raked by financial aid institutions isn’t the same as saying the government should pay for their educations.

Remember Obama winning all those red states and losing the general election? Me neither.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:40:13am
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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:40:43am

re: #362 darthstar

I agree. Which is why I think Super Delegates shouldn’t be counted until the convention. Pledged (elected) Delegate count is 577-386 right now - and that’s the only number we should be looking at. Remember, Hillary was calling for Obama to drop out because she had more Super Delegates at this stage in 2008.

And yes, this isn’t 2008…Bernie’s not Obama…but I’ll continue to be skeptical of the whole process until I’m ready to concede.

My senators, people who know Sanders personally and have worked with him for a combined twenty years or so, have explicitly come out and said, in effect, that they think Clinton would do a better job.

You don’t think I should take that into account? It sure seems like they ought to know more than me.

This shit is goddamned ridiculous. Nobody here is calling for Sanders to drop out.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:40:51am

re: #367 jaunte

It tied the palace together.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:40:55am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

A little bit on trade just now.

He actually talks a lot about trade, not sure how much of it is coherent. Trade wasn’t a Tea Party issue to my knowledge. Again kind of interesting Trump is the guy the Tea Party is essentially turning to.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:41:02am

re: #338 Skip Intro

Ok, you all know you want it.

Yum! Another tasty Palin word salad!

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:41:30am

re: #343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

An “A” and a “D-” are the same thing. Duh.

/

D’s really close to A, unlike Z. All those places that get a Z really suck.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:41:45am

re: #334 darthstar

Fair enough. I agree Hillary isn’t anything like Trump. But I do disagree on Bernie not being as qualified as she. And while the African American vote won her a bunch of red states on Tuesday, those states are gone in November as they were for Obama. And if she wants to win, she needs to get a message together about shit she wants to get done instead of simply saying that Bernie wants to do too much. Complaining that students are getting raked by financial aid institutions isn’t the same as saying the government should pay for their educations.

Clinton has a highly detailed higher education plan.

I’m starting to feel like you haven’t really been paying attention at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:41:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:42:12am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:42:29am

“I love the New Mexican people.”

OK, well it almost sounded like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:04am
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SpaceJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:09am

Did Trump just tell Mitt to suck his dick?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:32am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love how easily “red states” are blown off as not worth the trouble.
Kentucky (one of those “red states”) went for Bill Clinton over George HW Bush in 1992, and again in 1996 beating Bob Dole.

Though it would probably take another third party run like Perot’s for it to happen again. That is a distinct possibility this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:35am
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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:39am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

Gates had to work for his money. That makes him a loser, unlike Trump and his kids who all inherited theirs.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:40am

re: #350 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:43:45am

Wingnuts still tweeting this idiotic shit==>

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:44:12am

re: #362 darthstar

I agree. Which is why I think Super Delegates shouldn’t be counted until the convention. Pledged (elected) Delegate count is 577-386 right now - and that’s the only number we should be looking at. Remember, Hillary was calling for Obama to drop out because she had more Super Delegates at this stage in 2008.

And yes, this isn’t 2008…Bernie’s not Obama…but I’ll continue to be skeptical of the whole process until I’m ready to concede.

Total Non-sequitur. Who was talking super delegates?

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:44:38am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

The wall will go to the moon, and Mexico will pay for it!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:45:12am

re: #385 Skip Intro

The wall will go to the moon, and Mexico will pay for it!

It’s a novel way to get back there.

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SpaceJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:45:17am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:45:40am

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts still tweeting this idiotic shit==>

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Sigh. Fucking assholes, I don’t care that they’re veterans. This is pathetic. Would such a sign be condoned if it was done to Reagan or Bush?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:46:36am

re: #338 Skip Intro

Alinsky tactics

DRINK!

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:46:47am

re: #293 darthstar

Nothing magical about it. It’s just funny. We’re going to have a popularity contest for president and each party is sending their least likable candidate to the show.

Don’t for one minute think this year’s presidential race will be about issues. They’ve been blowing that smoke up our asses since they lost the last race on actual issues to Obama.

Least likable candidate?

In your opinion.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:46:49am

re: #338 Skip Intro

Ok, you all know you want it.

I miss Summer. (The Palin impersonator, not the 5 months of Alabama hell.)

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Tigger2  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:47:17am

Wow

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:47:18am

Interesting that when most GOP complain about American companies moving to Mexico or wherever it’s always about
“too much regulation, taxes, wages are too high, etc”, Trump says it’s a trade issue, i.e. the fault of other countries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:47:43am
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SpaceJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:48:21am

please don’t let this primary end

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:48:37am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love how easily “red states” are blown off as not worth the trouble.
Kentucky (one of those “red states”) went for Bill Clinton over George HW Bush in 1992, and again in 1996 beating Bob Dole.

Virginia was one of those states for a long time. It’s become purple due to a lot of hard work. It’s nice to go from having Jim Gilmore as your governor and John Warner (who I admit I did respect) and George Allen as your senators to Terry McAulife(who I’ve warned up to) to Mark Warner and Tim Kaine. Plus it’s nice knowing this state isn’t in the Republican column come every fourth November.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:49:14am

re: #395 SpaceJesus

please don’t let this primary end

You’re in charge, Lord.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:49:56am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:50:19am

Also interesting there’s very little criticism of Obama in Trump’s speeches.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:50:40am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

Drunk already

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:50:43am

re: #392 Tigger2

Wow

[Embedded content]

This is something I’ll remember I see people shitting on the ACA. I too have a pre-existing condition. Kudos to this guy for being mature to enough he was wrong. He doesn’t need to apologize honestly but it was nice that he had the decency to admit he was wrong.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:50:51am

re: #399 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Also interesting there’s very little criticism of Obama in Trump’s speeches.

What, talk about somebody else?

This is such a damned fascinating campaign.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:51:30am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:51:50am

Trump talking about cool super trains and “grater” airports, etc.

This is not really conservative talking points. I can see why so many conservatives are unhappy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:51:54am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:52:08am

re: #403 darthstar

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Now that’s an interesting what if.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:52:10am

Oh, our military is “depleted”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:52:30am

re: #404 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Trump talking about cool super trains and “grater” airports, etc.

This is not really conservative talking points. I can see why so many conservatives are unhappy.

It’s the ways that he actually makes sense that infuriates them about him.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:52:59am

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

Clinton has a highly detailed higher education plan.

I’m starting to feel like you haven’t really been paying attention at all.

Thanks…I’ll give that a read.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:53:39am

I need a definition: MBF. I keep seeing the acronym and I can’t find out what y’all mean when you use it.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:53:54am

re: #406 HappyWarrior

USA Today, The Miami Herald, and Knight Ridder commissioned accounting firm BDO Seidman to count undervotes: ballots that did not register any vote when counted by machine. BDO Seidman’s results, reported in USA Today, show that under the strictest standard, where only a cleanly punched ballot with a fully removed chad was counted, Gore won by three votes.[38] Under all other standards, Bush won, with Bush’s margin increasing as looser standards were used. The standards considered by BDO Seidman were:

Lenient standard. Any alteration in a chad, ranging from a dimple to a full punch, counts as a vote. By this standard, Bush won by 1,665 votes.
Palm Beach standard. A dimple is counted as a vote if other races on the same ballot show dimples as well. By this standard, Bush won by 884 votes.
Two-corner standard. A chad with two or more corners removed is counted as a vote. This is the most common standard in use. By this standard, Bush won by 363 votes.
Strict standard. Only a fully removed chad counts as a vote. By this standard, Gore won by 3 votes.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:01am

Magic balance fairy. Claiming both sides do something.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:06am

re: #410 Belafon

I need a definition: MBF. I keep seeing the acronym and I can’t find out what y’all mean when you use it.

Magical Balance Fairy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:10am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:15am

re: #410 Belafon

I need a definition: MBF. I keep seeing the acronym and I can’t find out what y’all mean when you use it.

Magical Balance Fairy,
The infamous both sides do it are just as bad.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:15am

re: #410 Belafon

I need a definition: MBF. I keep seeing the acronym and I can’t find out what y’all mean when you use it.

Magical Balance Fairy.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:17am
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:29am

re: #204 Lidane

Had to turn up my music because Drumpf’s campaign manager is currently on the phone with CNN ranting nonstop about Mitt. Before him, they had Katrina Pierson on the phone ranting about Mitt.

Up next: CNN live coverage of Drumpf ranting about Mitt.

When did Idiocracy become real life?

Quit yer bitchn n go get yer tattoo. Ain’t got time for this shit, Dancin’ with the Felons is about to come on.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:37am

re: #392 Tigger2

Wow

[Embedded content]

There is video…

President Obama Delivers Remarks on the Affordable Care Act

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:54:38am

Trump doesn’t care about Romney.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:55:07am

Trump’s Boston Herald flack is grinning ear to ear.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:55:19am

re: #411 Nyet

I know. I mean what if Gore had became President. What happens to the world around us. Who is the Republican nominee in 2004. Does Gore win re-election. That’s what I was wondering about. I remember that election. It’s the one that got me into politics and it’s been a crazy ride ever since.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:19am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

I know. I mean what if Gore had became President. What happens to the world around us. Who is the Republican nominee in 2004. Does Gore win re-election. That’s what I was wondering about. I remember that election. It’s the one that got me into politics and it’s been a crazy ride ever since.

9/11 happens and Gore is impeached.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:21am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

I know. I mean what if Gore had became President. What happens to the world around us. Who is the Republican nominee in 2004. Does Gore win re-election. That’s what I was wondering about. I remember that election. It’s the one that got me into politics and it’s been a crazy ride ever since.

For starters, I don’t see the Iraq war happening.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:25am

re: #419 blueraven

There is video…

[Embedded content]

Video

Oh this is live. The young man spoke at about -6:15

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:45am

re: #418 Eventual Carrion

Quit yer bitchn n go get yer tattoo. Ain’t got time for this shit, Dancin’ with the Felons is about to come on.

I’d prefer to tune into Ow, My Ballot!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:55am

re: #424 Nyet

For starters, I don’t see the Iraq war happening.

I don’t either. I don’t see Lieberman becoming the major asshole he did either.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:56:55am

re: #423 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

9/11 happens and Gore is impeached.

Or: Gore doesn’t ignore the intelligence reports like Bush and 9/11 doesn’t happen.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:04am

re: #407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

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Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:06am

re: #221 jaunte

Imagine Donald Trump’s Supreme Court picks.

I heard Judge Napolitano from Faux Neuz.

No snark intended

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:27am

re: #412 Whack-A-Mole

re: #413 Big Beautiful Door

re: #415 HappyWarrior

re: #416 Nyet

Thanks.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:38am
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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:43am

re: #410 Belafon

I need a definition: MBF. I keep seeing the acronym and I can’t find out what y’all mean when you use it.

MBF=Magical Balance Fairy. AKA BOTH SIDES DO IT!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:51am

Honestly looking back on 2000, the big mistake I think Gore made was not running as being proud of the Clinton-Gore record and I also think Lieberman was a bad choice for VP. I don’t know who else was vetted but I think Lieberman was a bad choice.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:58:12am

re: #430 Dave In Austin

There’s also a birther traffic court judge here in California, Gary Kreep, who’s obviously qualified.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:58:45am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Magical Balance Fairy,
The infamous both sides do it are just as bad.

“BOTH SIDES” is why abortion, gun, voting, and environmental laws are uniform across the entire country.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:58:53am

re: #360 Testy Toad T

THIS. I live in GA. I’m from Ohio. I left when my auto factory job got sent to Japan, after struggling for several years to survive in retail jobs. There were jobs here, my daughter was a toddler and politics didn’t really influence my choices. I was 26 then. I’m about to turn 56.

I get seriously sick of liberals telling me I should just move. I wish the hell I could. But, you kinda have to have a job to go to and actual money to move. Especially if you’re a working class family in the 50K range or lower. My husband had a 110K a year job until the economy tanked in 2007/08. He was middle management and one afternoon, after 15 yrs with the company and the promise of a dept VP promotion they let him go. 6 months severance pay and a hearty fuck you. We lost our life savings after that. It took him nearly 10 months to find another job. We have no savings and no retirement left and a house that needs repairs we can’t afford and most likely will have to go more into debt to make before we could consider selling this place and making any sort of profit. We’re not lazy, we’ve done all the things this fucking culture tells you to do to be successful. And it hasn’t worked.

And as far as all of us here in the South deserving what we get, HOW in the hell is that shitty attitude any fucking better than the assholes who whine and cry about “taking their country back”? You know what? If Democrats down here weren’t a bunch of cowering whiny Blue Dog ass kissers who are so scared of criticism they just go along to get along we might have made more inroads here. In GA, the ONLY real Dem presence is in Atlanta, Athens and Macon. The rest of the state is solid red and alot of us, and I mean more than there ever should be, face ballots on Election Day with NO Democratic challenger at State, Federal and Local levels. There is no outreach, no events except boring as fuck little dinner meetings where nothing is done except fundraising for Atlanta dems. The National level Democratic organizations don’t invest a fucking penny here and it does not matter how much someone like me raises hell. I don’t deserve to be written off because of geography and gerrymandering. And anyone who thinks the whole of the South should be written off with a “fuck them”, well fuck you too. I’ve heard enough of that shit and that’s a big part of why this part of the country is full of retrograde assholes who long for it to be the 1860s.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:59:29am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

Was a full-scale asshole back then already.

In December 1996, a press conference was called by William J. Bennett, Senator Joseph Lieberman, and activist C. DeLores Tucker, aimed at MCA, the owner of Interscope Records. Calling several albums released by the label - including Antichrist Superstar — “profane”, “violent”, “filth”, and “crap”[105][106] the group questioned MCA president Edgar Bronfman, Jr.’s ability to head the label competently while profiting from such material. That November 6, U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management and Restructuring held a public hearing on the effect of violent rock and rap lyrics on youths. Supporters of the band claim it was merely another salvo in Senator Lieberman’s declared war on the band. The hearing, chaired by Representative Sam Brownback, featured the testimony of Lieberman and Tucker, and of Raymond Kuntz, of Burlington, North Dakota, who blamed his son’s suicide on Antichrist Superstar, which Lieberman denounced as “vile, hateful, nihilistic and damaging.”[106]

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:59:56am

re: #419 blueraven

::crying::

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:59:57am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

I know. I mean what if Gore had became President. What happens to the world around us. Who is the Republican nominee in 2004. Does Gore win re-election. That’s what I was wondering about. I remember that election. It’s the one that got me into politics and it’s been a crazy ride ever since.

We would now be much farther along in switching to renewable energy to address climate change.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:00:21pm

re: #434 HappyWarrior

Honestly looking back on 2000, the big mistake I think Gore made was not running as being proud of the Clinton-Gore record and I also think Lieberman was a bad choice for VP. I don’t know who else was vetted but I think Lieberman was a bad choice.

And I’ll add the third mistake in 2000: Nader

*Albeit, not Gore’s fault*

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:01:28pm

re: #438 Nyet

Was a full-scale asshole back then already.

True that. A terrible choice by Gore’s team. Not Palin bad but closer to that than Biden good IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:01:45pm

re: #441 Dr. Matt

And I’ll add the third mistake in 2000: Nader

*Albeit, not Gore’s fault*

Fucking Nader.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:03:11pm

re: #437 A Mom Anon

The National level Democratic organizations don’t invest a fucking penny here and it does not matter how much someone like me raises hell.

Same in Kentucky. That’s why we have McConnell, Paul, a bunch of asshole congresscritters, and Gov. Bevin.
Kentucky isn’t worth spending time and money on, but sure good enough when it comes time to beg for donations.

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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:03:16pm

re: #407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, our military is “depleted”.

On that very point, Stonekettle goes nuclear:

All these right wing loons saying the military is depleted or needs to be stronger, please be specific - what isn’t strong enough. What must be even stronger?

Or, is that really code for the willingness to consider negotiations and diplomacy before using bombs as a last resort. Because that’s exactly what the GOP is doing. They think Obama isn’t using enough force - dropping enough bombs, as though that’ll solve insurgencies, conflicts, and make our enemies cower.

All the bombing in the world didn’t defeat Vietnamese insurgents. Bombing Chechnya didn’t end the insurgency there. Afghanistan. Iraq. All places where military force proved inadequate/insufficient.

On and on it goes.

But the GOP thinks we need to spend even more on the military. Memo: we already spend more than the next 10 countries combined (and that includes our allies among big spenders). We are throwing down a trillion dollars on a new fighter jet program to combat what exactly? When exactly was the last air to air fighter battle because the new plane can’t even do air to ground properly for another few years.

We’re buying new carriers (and I’m a fan of carriers and carrier aviation because of force projection), but we have more than the rest of the world combined - and again, that includes France and UK - our allies.

So, when you hear we need to rebuild our military, it’s really about fear projection.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:03:19pm

re: #440 Big Beautiful Door

We would now be much farther along in switching to renewable energy to address climate change.

We would be yeah.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:05:13pm

re: #446 HappyWarrior

We would be yeah.

And the SCOTUS would have probably been much more liberal.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:05:45pm

re: #445 lawhawk

On that very point, Stonekettle goes nuclear:

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All these right wing loons saying the military is depleted or needs to be stronger, please be specific - what isn’t strong enough. What must be even stronger?

Or, is that really code for the willingness to consider negotiations and diplomacy before using bombs as a last resort. Because that’s exactly what the GOP is doing. They think Obama isn’t using enough force - dropping enough bombs, as though that’ll solve insurgencies, conflicts, and make our enemies cower.

All the bombing in the world didn’t defeat Vietnamese insurgents. Bombing Chechnya didn’t end the insurgency there. Afghanistan. Iraq. All places where military force proved inadequate/insufficient.

On and on it goes.

But the GOP thinks we need to spend even more on the military. Memo: we already spend more than the next 10 countries combined (and that includes our allies among big spenders). We are throwing down a trillion dollars on a new fighter jet program to combat what exactly? When exactly was the last air to air fighter battle because the new plane can’t even do air to ground properly for another few years.

We’re buying new carriers (and I’m a fan of carriers and carrier aviation because of force projection), but we have more than the rest of the world combined - and again, that includes France and UK - our allies.

So, when you hear we need to rebuild our military, it’s really about fear projection.

I loved Obama’s diss on Romney. “Well Governor Romney there are also fewer horses in our military now than 1918.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:06:32pm

re: #447 Nyet

And the SCOTUS would have probably been much more liberal.

We would have had a liberal leaning CJ very likely since I don’t see Rehnquist’s health being any different. I don’t know if O’Connor steps down though under Gore though.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:19:37pm

OT, or is it?

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CleverToad  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:20:36pm

re: #199 Testy Toad T

Why did Hillary bomb out all of the Japanese and European factories in the 1940s and then invent the oil crisis and then design the Vega?

Just fuck off with this stupid holier-than-thou protectionist nonsense.

My first husband had a Vega. It didn’t have quite as many problems as the Monza he bought next…

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:21:13pm

re: #449 HappyWarrior

We would have had a liberal leaning CJ very likely since I don’t see Rehnquist’s health being any different. I don’t know if O’Connor steps down though under Gore though.

O’Connor most likely joined in that horrible Bush v. Gore decision precisely so that she could retire under a Republican president.

Unforgivable.

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:26:55pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coming Friday

Our endorsement in the Democratic race

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:33:34pm

re: #304 Kragar

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Klassy, Klassy, Klassy. That’s our Trump!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:44:17pm

re: #312 Lidane

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Well that’s helpful. Good to know.

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unproven innocence  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:57:18pm

re: #204 Lidane

Had to turn up my music because Drumpf’s campaign manager is currently on the phone with CNN ranting nonstop about Mitt. Before him, they had Katrina Pierson on the phone ranting about Mitt.

Up next: CNN live coverage of Drumpf ranting about Mitt.

When did Idiocracy become real life?

I’m guessing here. When the President declared on live TV that the Soviet empire had just been declared illegal, and bombing would begin in five minutes.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:57:54pm

re: #438 Nyet

Was a full-scale asshole back then already.

Antichrist Superstar was one of Marilyn Manson’s best albums.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:06:07pm

re: #450 De Kolta Chair

OT, or is it?

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That should make some people Finger Lickin’ Furious.


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