Video: Mitt Romney “Would Have Dropped to His Knees” for My Endorsement

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You knew Donald Trump would waste no time lashing out at Mitt Romney after Mitt’s speech today. And sure enough, the Trumpenstein went straight to the gutter, calling Romney “a failed candidate” and saying, “He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said ‘Mitt, drop to your knees.’ He would have dropped to his knees.”

Listen to the crowd react in the video above; they knew exactly what he was implying with that crass insult: oral sex. And they loved it. But of course, Trump will deny it if/when he’s called on it.

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474 comments
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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:00:24pm
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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:00:48pm

Looks like Mitt Romney just got schlonged.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:00:58pm
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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:01:48pm

They arrested Bridge Boy

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:01:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:03:56pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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About damn time. If he had been Muslim, there would still be an unfilled crater where the bridge used to be.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:04:15pm

re: #4 Kragar

Excellent.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:04:27pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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Today just keeps getting better and better.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:04:46pm
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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:06:09pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

We all know Trump’s carpet was ruined because Mitt Romney wouldn’t swallow.

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:06:09pm

Wow. Just … wow.

Trump’s instincts are great for dealing with vulgar Queens construction contractors and mobbed-up union reps in Atlantic City. No doubt when coming into conflict, the instinct to start shouting “Fuck you! Just get down on your knees and blow me, you fuckin’ mook!” works great.

But is this really the kind of thing that we as a country think will work when trying to negotiate nuclear proliferation treaties?

Yeah, I know. The answer, to a bunch of knuckle-dragging, angry old white racists is “Goddam right! Show them moolie [bigoted word]s to stay in their place!” But I hope to God that everybody else in the reality-based world knows better…

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mr.fusion  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:06:38pm

Remember when conservatives said Obama was too “unpresidential” because he took his suit jacket off in the oval office?

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:06:55pm

re: #10 Testy Toad T

We all know Trump’s carpet was ruined because Mitt Romney wouldn’t swallow.

Eeew.

Brain bleach now on back-order at Amazon.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:07:16pm

re: #10 Testy Toad T

Romney was hoping the billionaire Trump would shower him with gold. And he apparently did.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:07:21pm

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:08:15pm

Aside from the appeal to racism and white supremacists, I do not understand what anyone could possibly see in this man as a candidate for dog catcher, much less POTUS. I mean, I have heard or seen nothing that even comes close to an idea or plan on anything from him. There is nothing remotely Presidential or inspiring or reassuring about his braggadocio and constant bullying of opponents.

I wouldn’t cast a vote for any of the GOP field but I can at least see how someone would be drawn to someone like Rubio or Kasich. Cruz is a bit more borderline but I can at least conceptualize why someone might want him as their President. There is nothing about Trump, on any level or in any way, that could convince me to vote for him.

I simply do not understand the success he’s had.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:08:19pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

But Obama is not a Christian….

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mr.fusion  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:08:25pm

Over/Under on period jokes at tonight’s debate

2.5

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:08:34pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

And yet they think the Obamas lack class.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:08:48pm

re: #12 mr.fusion

Remember when conservatives said Obama was too “unpresidential” because he took his suit jacket off in the oval office?

Put his feet on the desk….

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mr.fusion  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:09:14pm

re: #20 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Put his feet on the desk….

Unconscionable

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:09:29pm

re: #16 Whack-A-Mole

Aside from the appeal to racism and white supremacists, I do not understand what anyone could possibly see in this man as a candidate for dog catcher, much less POTUS. I mean, I have heard or seen nothing that even comes close to an idea or plan on anything from him. There is nothing remotely Presidential or inspiring or reassuring about his braggadocio and constant bullying of opponents.

I wouldn’t cast a vote for any of the GOP field but I can at least see how someone would be drawn to someone like Rubio or Kasich. Cruz is a bit more borderline but I can at least conceptualize why someone might want him as their President. There is nothing about Trump, on any level or in any way, that could convince me to vote for him.

I simply do not understand the success he’s had.

That’s what my Dad’s been saying. Donald Trump really? But yeah the other three I can at least kind of see even if the ideology is all fucked up.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:09:29pm

Obama uses the sardonic “Thanks Obama!” in his speech on ACA.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:10:15pm

One of the clickbait ‘Promoted Stories’ I’m getting right now below the main post is titled “25 Photos Of Katy Perry’s Boobs Absolutely Pouring Out Of Her Top”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:10:23pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:10:36pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

But when Rubio tried to get down and dirty with stupid insults they just laughed at him, because he’s like Butters trying to insult Cartman.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:11:06pm

re: #16 Whack-A-Mole

Aside from the appeal to racism and white supremacists, I do not understand what anyone could possibly see in this man as a candidate for dog catcher, much less POTUS.

I think you answered your own question. Republican primary voters vote on bombasticity (shut up it’s totally a word) and force of personality and whether they want to have a beer with somebody. Policy doesn’t matter for shit.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:11:13pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Ha!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:12:17pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

But when Rubio tried to get down and dirty with stupid insults they just laughed at him, because he’s like Butters trying to insult Cartman.

Hahaha I like that analogy. Good one.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:12:44pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:13:14pm

There are plenty of people that are tired of not being able to yell n****r and feel the thrill of threatening blacks. There are plenty of men who would like to yell c*nt and dyke, beat up a few gays and lesbians. They want them all back in their place. And no matter what you say, not all of that sentiment has to do with economics.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:13:24pm

Charles, LGF displayed on my IPhone 5 flicks to half screen when vertical. I can stretch is out but is unstable. Fine when I’m horizontal display.

Dave

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:14:38pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:15:14pm

In the previous thread a couple of posters wondered about what might or might not have happened if Al Gore had been sworn in as President. (We know damn well he was elected). The anti-terrorism policies of the Clinton administration would have continued, and I believe there is a good chance that 9/11 would not have happened (no guarantees, but Clinton/Gore were far more focused on terrorism). Instead the George W. Bush administration stocked the NSC with cold warriors who were oriented to the rivalry with China and the Russian Federation. Terrorism expert Richard Clarke (I think that was his name) was first marginalized and then shoved out the door. Again, I don’t know it the authorities would have connected the dots any better during a Gore administration, but at least he wouldn’t have blown off a “Bin Laden determined to strike in America” warning.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:15:15pm

re: #34 Kragar

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Try laughing at Howard. You’re giving that name a bad name with this shit.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:15:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:15:35pm

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Charles, LGF displayed on my IPhone 5 flicks to half screen when vertical. I can stretch is out but is unstable. Fine when I’m horizontal display.

Dave

I know - it’s the Twitter timeline at the bottom of the screen. Twitter changed the way their embedded timeline displays. Looking into it now.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:16:13pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

About Fucking time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:16:50pm

Notice how Trump always acts more like a stand up comedian than a politcian at his rallies?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:17:21pm

I dunno if it’s just me, but it feels like the whirlwind of GOP derp has accelerated pretty amazingly over the last week.

What did the establishment expect to happen on Super Tuesday, exactly?

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TedStriker  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:17:56pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel

About damn time. If he had been Muslim, there would still be an unfilled crater where the bridge used to be.

re: #8 Big Beautiful Door

Today just keeps getting better and better.

As I said downstairs in regards to the arrest of another Bundidiot, the wheels of justice may move slow, but they grind exceedingly fine.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:18:51pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I dunno if it’s just me, but it feels like the whirlwind of GOP derp has accelerated pretty amazingly over the last week.

What did the establishment expect to happen on Super Tuesday, exactly?

I think they really hoped their base would actually look at Marco’s name and think he was respectable. Word is they’re pissed at Kasich and think he cost Rubio Virginia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:19:07pm
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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:20:11pm

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday’s Child)

Wow. Just … wow.

Trump’s instincts are great for dealing with vulgar Queens construction contractors and mobbed-up union reps in Atlantic City. No doubt when coming into conflict, the instinct to start shouting “Fuck you! Just get down on your knees and blow me, you fuckin’ mook!” works great.

But is this really the kind of thing that we as a country think will work when trying to negotiate nuclear proliferation treaties?

Yeah, I know. The answer, to a bunch of knuckle-dragging, angry old white racists is “Goddam right! Show them moolie [bigoted word]s to stay in their place!” But I hope to God that everybody else in the reality-based world knows better…

If this is how he reacts, then I’m seeing a trade war with China, a trade war with Japan, potential military confrontations at the border, a nuclear mid-east, and fuck knows what else.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:20:39pm

Just finished listening to Obama in Milwaukee and wow. I am crying.

I can’t express how much I am going to miss him. That he genuinely cares about Americans is so readily apparent and so diametrically opposite from every single Republican makes my head spin. The dishonesty of Republicans, especially Fox News, the largest microphone makes me wish Murdoch and every one of those assholes on his staff could be tried for sedition.

Such wasted opportunities for this country as it was led by a magnificent man who was thwarted at every goddamned step. That he accomplished what he did blows my mind and makes me yearn for what could have been.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:21:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:22:23pm

good luck with that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:22:45pm

re: #46 MsJ

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TedStriker  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:23:06pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

And, to think, most of them were completely apoplectic and screaming to high heaven for impeachment when Bill Clinton was actually getting BJs in the Oval Office.

I know, IOKIYAR…

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:24:29pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

I know - it’s the Twitter timeline at the bottom of the screen. Twitter changed the way their embedded timeline displays. Looking into it now.

FWIW, I wouldn’t be upset at all if that was removed from mobile. I look for embeds in the comments but not the Twitter feed. Ever. I want to see all the LGF posts and comments. I have an app for Twitter related items.

My two cents.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:24:53pm

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Charles, LGF displayed on my IPhone 5 flicks to half screen when vertical. I can stretch is out but is unstable. Fine when I’m horizontal display.

Dave

Turning off that timeline widget on small screens until Twitter fixes this. Just reported it to @benward.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:24:56pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I dunno if it’s just me, but it feels like the whirlwind of GOP derp has accelerated pretty amazingly over the last week.

What did the establishment expect to happen on Super Tuesday, exactly?

Ponies

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:25:24pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good luck with that…

And again this gets even weirder.

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TedStriker  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:25:35pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

good luck with that…

Jenner is damned lucky that the party hasn’t run her out of it on a rail yet.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:26:19pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:27:13pm

re: #35 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

In the previous thread a couple of posters wondered about what might or might not have happened if Al Gore had been sworn in as President. (We know damn well he was elected). The anti-terrorism policies of the Clinton administration would have continued, and I believe there is a good chance that 9/11 would not have happened (no guarantees, but Clinton/Gore were far more focused on terrorism). Instead the George W. Bush administration stocked the NSC with cold warriors who were oriented to the rivalry with China and the Russian Federation. Terrorism expert Richard Clarke (I think that was his name) was first marginalized and then shoved out the door. Again, I don’t know it the authorities would have connected the dots any better during a Gore administration, but at least he wouldn’t have blown off a “Bin Laden determined to strike in America” warning.

I think 9/11 probably still happens, they were already in the US and at the time the intelligence agencies couldn’t speak to the FBI (if I’m remember my 9/11 Commission Report right). But the budget and debt are probably in better shape because there wouldn’t have been the Bush tax cut, and we wouldn’t have gone into Iraq. But it’s also entirely possible that Gore loses to McCain in 2004, or whoever the Democratic nominee in 2008 would have been would have lost to the GOP nominee.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:27:30pm

re: #4 Kragar

Oh that guy. Didn’t know who you meant at first.

Hallelujah.

“But he’s a 3 Percenter!!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:27:37pm

re: #55 TedStriker

Jenner is damned lucky that the party hasn’t run her out of it on a rail yet.

Well there’s not much they can really do. They can’t force her to stop being a registered Republican. Only she can do that. How she can be enamored by Ted Cruz who is probably the most anti LGBT candidate in the GOP race astonishes me.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:27:37pm

Oh this country

Donald Trump’s ex-wife Marla Maples has joined the cast of Dancing With The Stars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:27:44pm
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:28:00pm

re: #55 TedStriker

Jenner is damned lucky that the party hasn’t run her out of it on a rail yet.

They’d just as soon kill her as look at her. That she continues to support the GOP is mind-boggling. For so many of those people it’s perception about taxes. Sorry, she’s a selfish oaf. Not that that information shocks anyone.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:28:06pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Oh this country

Donald Trump’s ex-wife Marla Maples has joined the cast of Dancing With The Stars.

Bring on the meteor

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:29:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:29:42pm

Ted Cruz is the most anti-LGBT GOPer in the most anti-GOP set of candidates since LGBT rights have become an issue for this country. Think about that.
Meant LGBT since Jenner is both a self identified lesbian and trans.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:29:59pm

re: #55 TedStriker

Jenner is damned lucky that the party hasn’t run her out of it on a rail yet.

She’s rich/famous enough to avoid that. But Jenner really is a Quisling for supporting a party who mostly want to see her dying on a fence post like Matthew Shepard.

How does it feel, Jenner, to trade away your humanity because you think the Republicans will lower your taxes?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:30:49pm

re: #62 MsJ

They’d just as soon kill her as look at her. That she continues to support the GOP is mind-boggling. For so many of those people it’s perception about taxes. Sorry, she’s a selfish oaf. Not that that information shocks anyone.

Literally actually factually kill her. Bloodily, to death.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:30:51pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:08pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Ted Cruz is the most anti-gay GOPer in the most anti-GOP set of candidates since LGBT rights have become an issue for this country. Think about that.

Assuming that 2020 is a contested Republican primary, I’m sure at least one of that group of clowns will find a way to be worse than Ted Cruz on LGBT rights.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:12pm

Marshall at TPM hits it pretty well out of the park:

So many things are happening right now - mostly with the actors in question having no clear plan for what they’re doing - that it’s very hard to know where our politics will be a week from now let alone in six months. But there’s one thing we can see clearly and it’s worth noting: top Republican stakeholders are breaking a lot of china right now that will be very, very hard to unbreak. What seems most relevant to me is that almost all of this is being done with no clear sense of an end-game or even a clear plan.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:14pm
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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:25pm

re: #67 Testy Toad T

Literally actually factually kill her. Bloodily, to death.

Publicly, no less, a la caning in the Philippines. They would gladly create a reality show murdering people and be damned proud of it.

Hyperbole? Not. A. Lick. As you said, literally, actually, factually.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:38pm

I still have no regrets about defending Caitlin Jenner’s choice to be the gender she chooses to be but how the hell could you be that fucking clueless? I don’t care how low you want your taxes. Use your fucking brain.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:32:57pm

re: #69 EPR-radar

Assuming that 2020 is a contested Republican primary, I’m sure at least one of that group of clowns will find a way to be worse than Ted Cruz on LGBT rights.

That’s true. Perhaps someone that shares Ted’s buddy Phil’s position.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:33:43pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I still have no regrets about defending Caitlin Jenner’s choice to be the gender she chooses to be but how the hell could you be that fucking clueless? I don’t care how low you want your taxes. Use your fucking brain.

Brain assumption. Facts not in evidence.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:36:18pm

re: #75 MsJ

Brain assumption. Facts not in evidence.

I don’t think Jenner is being stupid. I think she is being evil. The Republicans aren’t going to personally murder her for being trans, so she doesn’t give a shit. If a Republican wins, her taxes might go down, and there is literally no other issue to consider.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:36:25pm

re: #70 Testy Toad T

But there’s one thing we can see clearly and it’s worth noting: top Republican stakeholders are breaking a lot of china right now that will be very, very hard to unbreak. What seems most relevant to me is that almost all of this is being done with no clear sense of an end-game or even a clear plan.

Yeah

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:36:37pm

re: #16 Whack-A-Mole

Aside from the appeal to racism and white supremacists, I do not understand what anyone could possibly see in this man as a candidate for dog catcher, much less POTUS. I mean, I have heard or seen nothing that even comes close to an idea or plan on anything from him. There is nothing remotely Presidential or inspiring or reassuring about his braggadocio and constant bullying of opponents.

I wouldn’t cast a vote for any of the GOP field but I can at least see how someone would be drawn to someone like Rubio or Kasich. Cruz is a bit more borderline but I can at least conceptualize why someone might want him as their President. There is nothing about Trump, on any level or in any way, that could convince me to vote for him.

I simply do not understand the success he’s had.

He talks like your drinking buddy, if you and your buddy are Archie Bunkers.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:37:05pm

re: #4 Kragar

What I really love is that being lawfully arrested for clearly illegal acts that can rightfully be labeled terrorism is, in the minds of these loons being “kidnapped.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:37:32pm

re: #71 Kragar

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If this is 997, then 998, 999 and 1000 must involve zombie apocalypses and extinction level events.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:37:40pm

re: #31 Belafon

There are plenty of people that are tired of not being able to yell n****r and feel the thrill of threatening blacks. There are plenty of men who would like to yell c*nt and dyke, beat up a few gays and lesbians. They want them all back in their place. And no matter what you say, not all of that sentiment has to do with economics.

I am really beginning to suspect that Trump has mobilized a new group of voters, the slack-jawed, conspiracy loving underclass who normally don’t vote because they think “everything is rigged anyway.” Trump is their man, their champion. These are the reality tv fans, the great masses who are always there in the fringes and dingy corners of middle America, but are normally ignored. They recoil reflexively from any hint of intellect or dignity, even the minimal fig leaves we see from the likes of Cruz and Rubio.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:37:51pm

re: #79 KGxvi

What I really love is that being lawfully arrested for clearly illegal acts that can rightfully be labeled terrorism is, in the minds of these loons being “kidnapped.”

Well they sure as hell weren’t adult-napped, were they?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:38:36pm

So this letter from 77 foreign policy “experts” saying they won’t work for Trump.

Other than looking like a group of people with an inflated sense of importance, are we supposed to understand them to mean that if, heaven forbid, Trump was elected, that they wouldn’t do everything in their power to make sure he got the best FP advice possible?

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:39:12pm

re: #81 Shiplord Kirel

I am really beginning to suspect that Trump has mobilized a new group of voters, the slack-jawed, conspiracy loving underclass who normally don’t vote because they think “everything is rigged anyway.” Trump is their man, their champion. These are the reality tv fans, the great masses who are always there in the fringes and dingy corners of middle America, but are normally ignored. They recoil reflexively from any hint of intellect or dignity, even the minimal fig leaves we see from the likes of Cruz and Rubio.

So, the people who’ll love the brown and black uniforms.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:40:00pm

re: #79 KGxvi

What I really love is that being lawfully arrested for clearly illegal acts that can rightfully be labeled terrorism is, in the minds of these loons being “kidnapped.”

What’s this world coming to when we can’t point weapons at federal officials?

“Oh but don’t we love our police! They’re terrific people!”

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:40:07pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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Woot!

A thorough take down of all the Bundy cranks.

This is how it is done.

And for all the people that said the Feds were weak…who will be crying and in a weakened state now? Enjoy jail boys and girls.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:40:18pm

re: #80 Big Beautiful Door

If this is 997, then 998, 999 and 1000 must involve zombie apocalypses and extinction level events.

Those are the timelines where somebody has died at a Trump rally, which really doesn’t feel far-fetched at this point.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:40:32pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Woot!

A thorough take down of all the Bundy cranks.

This is how it is done.

And for all the people that said the Feds were weak…who will be crying and in a weakened state now? Enjoy jail boys and girls.

TYRANNIES!!!!

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:40:50pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

I don’t think Jenner is being stupid. I think she is being evil. The Republicans aren’t going to personally murder her for being trans, so she doesn’t give a shit. If a Republican wins, her taxes might go down, and there is literally no other issue to consider.

I think it’s more stupid, or at least naive. There’s a good portion of California Republicans who are socially fairly liberal (pro-gay rights, pro-choice, etc) and who think they can convince Republicans like Cruz that they are wrong on social issues. It won’t happen though, too many true believers east of the 15 that make up the bulk of the GOP’s base.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:42:02pm
“He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said ‘Mitt, drop to your knees.’ He would have dropped to his knees.”

Undeniably one of the most unpresidential thing ever said by any candidate running for the Presidency.

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ramex  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:42:44pm

re: #81 Shiplord Kirel

I am really beginning to suspect that Trump has mobilized a new group of voters, the slack-jawed, conspiracy loving underclass who normally don’t vote because they think “everything is rigged anyway.” Trump is their man, their champion. These are the reality tv fans, the great masses who are always there in the fringes and dingy corners of middle America, but are normally ignored. They recoil reflexively from any hint of intellect or dignity, even the minimal fig leaves we see from the likes of Cruz and Rubio.

I’m on the edge of blaming reality TV for the current state of the GOP, whether it’s gay-hating duck hunters or pedophiles fucking their way to a quiverful for Jesus, horrible boorish behavior has been mainstreamed to the public, and they’re loving it enough to accept and even eat up everything the GOP is serving.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:43:22pm

re: #5 Jenner7

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Where exactly does is say in the Bill of Rights, the Preamble or The US Constitution that the US/America is a white country?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:44:03pm

Apparently, two more of Cliven Bundy’s sons, Mel and Dave, were also taken into custody today.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:44:39pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

Where exactly does is say in the Bill of Rights, the Preamble or The US Constitution that the US/America is a white country?

Article I, Section 2:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

// (but only half)

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:44:44pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, two more of Cliven Bundy’s sons, Mel and Dave, were also taken into custody today.

Al remains at large.

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blueraven  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:44:46pm

On November 21, 1922, the New York Times published its very first article about Adolf Hitler.

Seems relevant today for those who think Trump is just using Neo-Nazi, White Supremacist, KKK rhetoric as a ruse to fool a few voters.

He is credibly credited with being actuated by lofty, unselfish patriotism. He probably does not know himself just what he wants to accomplish. The keynote of his propaganda in speaking and writing is violent anti-Semitism. His followers are nicknamed the “Hakenkreuzler.” So violent are Hitler’s fulminations against the Jews that a number of prominent Jewish citizens are reported to have sought safe asylums in the Bavarian highlands, easily reached by fast motor cars, whence they could hurry their women and children when forewarned of an anti-Semitic St. Bartholomew’s night.

But several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler’s anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of followers and keep them aroused, enthusiastic, and in line for the time when his organization is perfected and sufficiently powerful to be employed effectively for political purposes.

A sophisticated politician credited Hitler with peculiar political cleverness for laying emphasis and over-emphasis on anti-Semitism, saying: “You can’t expect the masses to understand or appreciate your finer real aims. You must feed the masses with cruder morsels and ideas like anti-Semitism. It would be politically all wrong to tell them the truth about where you really are leading them.”

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:45:19pm
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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:45:24pm

re: #95 Testy Toad T

Al remains at large.

He’s got a real militia called NO MA’AM that’s keeping him safe and drunk.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:45:27pm

But we must give T-Rump some credit. He didn’t use the “F” word.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:45:54pm

re: #95 Testy Toad T

Al remains at large.

Peggy has him locked in the basement.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:46:16pm

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

CONCRETE, Wash. —
Skagit County deputies say a man taking selfies while posing with a gun died after he accidentally shot himself in the face on Sunday.

The Skagit County Herald says it happened in front of the 43-year-old man’s girlfriend at a home on Baker Loop Road in Concrete.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:46:38pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good luck with that…

Once again, Caitlyn Jenner perpetuates embodies the stereotype of the dumb jock.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:46:47pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

But we must give T-Rump some credit. He didn’t use the “F” word.

yet

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TedStriker  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:47:48pm

re: #95 Testy Toad T

Al remains at large.

The pride of Polk High.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:49:32pm

CNN with the all-important campaign opinion from Hugh Heffner, JR (Cooper is his name).

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:50:35pm

re: #95 Testy Toad T

Al remains at large.

He’s in hiding, with a hot Latino wife. He even keeps reading the same paper.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:50:58pm

re: #105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CNN with the all-important campaign opinion from Hugh Heffner, JR (Cooper is his name).

Oh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:51:24pm

Loretta Lynch is in Portland, Oregon.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:51:57pm

Instagram

#🌊 #shorebreak #Oahu #Hawaii

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:52:17pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

I don’t think Jenner is being stupid. I think she is being evil. The Republicans aren’t going to personally murder her for being trans, so she doesn’t give a shit. If a Republican wins, her taxes might go down, and there is literally no other issue to consider.

Jenner will be allowed to live if she acts like a “model minority”… Silent, sit down, shut up, and don’t make waves. Don’t try and change things. Don’t poke your head up above water. Do not try and actually change fundamental power structures in this country. All this in exchange for lowered taxes. Sounds like other greedy individuals prominent in other traditionally subjugated minority groups.

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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:52:42pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Listen to that crowd when Trump said his blowjob insult. They loved it. The GOP voting base is ready to elect a president who makes blowjob “jokes” about political opponents.

That is what is called taking your country back.

Or down…or something. But by Gawd…the colors ain’t gonna take it!

And this is the ‘white’ culture they want to protect.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:53:02pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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This is how their revolution ends: with a social media whimper.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:53:13pm

There’s a debate tonight?

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:53:15pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

The Russians have a selfie safety campaign. Shooting oneself is one of the risk they warn against.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:53:17pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

I wanna make a funny, but how traumatic for her.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:54:14pm

re: #113 De Kolta Chair

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There’s a debate tonight?

Yep & Megyn Kelly is one of the mods.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:54:19pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

Darwin Award finalist.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:55:01pm

Rage Furby’s favorite topic: Cat porn

Instagram

Follow @sweetwildanimals for more awesome animal photos and videos 😍
Photography by @hana__kitty

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:55:21pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

I don’t think Jenner is being stupid. I think she is being evil. The Republicans aren’t going to personally murder her for being trans, so she doesn’t give a shit. If a Republican wins, her taxes might go down, and there is literally no other issue to consider.

I know several trans women who are still Republicans. It is a matter of tribal identity that is very, very hard to break. I didn’t leave until 2007, which was 3 years after I came out as trans.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:55:31pm

Mortal Kombat: Billionaire Assholes

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:55:47pm

re: #113 De Kolta Chair

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There’s a debate tonight?

Fox News 9:00 pm

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:55:48pm

*headdesk*

Facebook Post

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:56:17pm

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

Darwin Award finalist.

Also, avoid taking selfies in front of wild animals.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:56:48pm

Awful.

Click to Reveal
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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:57:10pm

re: #123 Ming5000

Also, avoid taking selfies in front of wild animals.

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So the Russian word for selfy is… selfi?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:57:11pm

re: #110 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Jenner will be allowed to live if she acts like a “model minority”… Silent, sit down, shut up, and don’t make waves. Don’t try and change things. Don’t poke your head up above water. Do not try and actually change fundamental power structures in this country. All this in exchange for lowered taxes. Sounds like other greedy individuals prominent in other traditionally subjugated minority groups.

And Rod Dreher et al will still hate her guts and say she is emblematic of the social fall of “post Christian America”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:57:15pm

re: #119 Aunty Entity Dragon

Good for you. Much respect!

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 12:59:32pm

re: #125 Jack Burton

So the Russian word for selfy is… selfi?

Yes, but in Cyrillic and with a strong accent.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:00:23pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:00:29pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

I posted that last night on my Facebook page to take a poke at my gun-loving sister. I hadn’t posted anything on Facebook since the first of the year, but I broke the silence to post that story and another little story about how my recycling bin had been moved and flipped. When I turned the bin over I discovered that someone had use the bin to hide a pretty nice blue and white glass bong. Who knows why. It’s a mystery. My neighborhood is kind of weird.

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:02:12pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

Keep your eyes peeled for a nervous teenager looking for their item where they temporarily stashed it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:02:35pm
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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:04:16pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

I follow Will McAvoy but refuse to follow Trump. What a great time.

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mmmirele  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:08:35pm

re: #4 Kragar

They arrested Bridge Boy

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Time for a happy dance around the office!

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unproven innocence  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:09:16pm

So Trump wants to be worshiped. I’m not surprised. /

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:09:55pm

re: #131 Ming5000

My trash bin is near where the recycling bin was. I put the bong in a bag and set it in the trash bin. Yesterday I put the rest of my garbage in the bin and put it out on the curb. It’s gone now. I actually was watching for anyone nosing around. I was worried that they’d try to break into my garage, but I haven’t seen anything suspicious. It’s just goofy that they’d leave a bong in my yard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:14:18pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:15:14pm

Mortal Kombat Theme Song

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:20:05pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Woot!

A thorough take down of all the Bundy cranks.

This is how it is done.

And for all the people that said the Feds were weak…who will be crying and in a weakened state now? Enjoy jail boys and girls.

There’s still thousands of Cool Ranch Patritos out there, waiting for martyr cookies. edit: Waiting to be dipped in Martyr Sauce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:22:27pm

Davey Bundy:
Bundy family member arrested in Utah on federal warrant

FBI agents have arrested another son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy — this time in Utah.

David “Davey” Bundy was arrested just after 7 a.m. Thursday at the site of the house the Millard County contractor is building for his family just south of Delta, his wife told The Salt Lake Tribune.

Marylynn Bundy said she was alerted to the arrest by a worker who was blocked from getting to the house by law enforcement.

“I think they are just trying to get all the Bundy men locked up, so they can raid their homes,” Marylynn Bundy said.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:22:50pm

re: #16 Whack-A-Mole

This should help explain it.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:23:15pm

re: #89 KGxvi

I think it’s more stupid, or at least naive. There’s a good portion of California Republicans who are socially fairly liberal (pro-gay rights, pro-choice, etc) and who think they can convince Republicans like Cruz that they are wrong on social issues. It won’t happen though, too many true believers east of the 15 that make up the bulk of the GOP’s base.

Straight GOPers can be this clueless. The non-straight GOPers don’t have that excuse.

Until very recently, growing up non-straight meant one thing above all else —- you had a secret that could very easily get you killed if it came out at the wrong place/time.

So you get reasonably good at threat assessment or you die.

Jenner knows exactly what the GOP so-cons want to do. She just doesn’t care because it won’t affect her personally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:23:29pm
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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:24:32pm

hahaha

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:26:47pm

Just spitballing here off a random thought:

Assuming Trump wins the GOP nomination, do you think Hillary inviting someone like Susan Collins on the ticket as VP would draw enough on-the-fence voters away from Trump top be worth the risk of the pick?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:28:18pm

Bridge-boy is in jail. That makes this a good day!

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:29:06pm

re: #144 Jenner7

Edwards’ credentials and interview claim set off a media controversy and forced the Trump campaign to run for cover

You’re doing a bad job staying irreeeeelevant, Charles!

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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:29:25pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

The #BundyRanch operated as a criminal syndicate. Go figure.

Domestic terrorists who were welfare queens demanding the government bend to their whim or else they’d shoot up federal agents enforcing federal laws. Like making guys who let their herds roam around OUR land pay for the grazing rights just like every other rancher out there.

But the Bundys weren’t like other ranchers. They didn’t do anything that normal ranchers do. They simply let their herds roam and didn’t actually manage the herds.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:30:18pm

re: #145 Whack-A-Mole

Just spitballing here off a random thought:

Assuming Trump wins the GOP nomination, do you think Hillary inviting someone like Susan Collins on the ticket as VP would draw enough on-the-fence voters away from Trump top be worth the risk of the pick?

No, unless it is coupled with a party switch by Collins. Then it might be worth thinking about.

The main reason is that this panders unnecessarily to the both-siderism crap that significantly enables the GOP shit we see every day.

On a more practical note, this will lose Democrats, gain no Republicans and have an unknown effect on the mushy middle. Who the hell needs that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:30:20pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:32:02pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait til she finds out that you can actually donate a portion of your Amazon purchase to Planned Parenthood via AmazonSmile. I’ve been doing that since this whole ‘baby parts’ thing blew up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:33:18pm

re: #151 stpaulbear

Wait til she finds out that you can actually donate a portion of your Amazon purchase to Planned Parenthood via AmazonSmile. I’ve been doing that since this whole ‘baby parts’ thing blew up.

me too!

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:38:57pm

Regulations that limit heavy metal pollution from oil- and coal-fired power plants will continue to be enforced by the EPA — at least for now — thanks to Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts.

On Thursday, Roberts unilaterally rejected a petition from 20 conservative-led states asking the court to temporarily halt the regulations. Halting the regulations would effectively allow power plants to emit unlimited mercury, arsenic, chromium, and other toxic heavy metals into the environment. […]

Last summer, the Supreme Court found that the EPA had not properly considered how much the rule would cost power plant operators, and ordered the EPA to do a proper cost-benefit analysis.

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:40:22pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

More good news today.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:43:08pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Davey Bundy:
Bundy family member arrested in Utah on federal warrant

Damn, how many of ‘em are there?

Hey, everyone. I see I didn’t miss much, just more bad crazy. I’m about ready to start claiming I’m Canadian…

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:44:36pm

re: #155 CuriousLurker

Damn, how many of ‘em are there?

Hey, everyone. I see I didn’t miss much, just more bad crazy. I’m about ready to start claiming I’m Canadian…

Harper, Buck, Ted Cruz… ///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:44:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:45:13pm

re: #155 CuriousLurker

Damn, how many of ‘em are there?

Hey, everyone. I see I didn’t miss much, just more bad crazy. I’m about ready to start claiming I’m Canadian…

Cliven has 14 kids.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:47:06pm

re: #156 Nyet

Harper, Buck, Ted Cruz… ///

I hate you!!

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:47:48pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cliven has 14 kids.

Whoa, a quiverfull.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:48:02pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:52:01pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

Yep & Megyn Kelly is one of the mods.

Must watch tv!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:52:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:55:35pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

Offered without comment:
Man fatally shoots himself while posing for selfies with gun

At least her died doing what he loved.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 1:58:34pm

Just got a letter from the school district apologizing for the fracas last week concerning my employment. The letter also reaffirmed my right to work as a teacher and mentioned that while they knew I had social media posts not in keeping with district policy, most of them were old and I had taken the right steps to eliminate them so far as possible.

The district considers this a dead issue now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:01:43pm

The guy posted (then deleted) the rally photo to his FB page.
eejit.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:03:46pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Olive Oyl could beat up anyone and everyone in that ballroom.

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No Depression  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:04:19pm

Fox News is talking about the GOP debate they’re hosting tonight (yes, another fucking one) like it’s a sporting event. “You can feel the tension! Everyone is buzzing! Excitement is in the air!” Blech.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:05:10pm
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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:05:11pm

re: #165 Aunty Entity Dragon

Just got a letter from the school district apologizing for the fracas last week concerning my employment. The letter also reaffirmed my right to work as a teacher and mentioned that while they knew I had social media posts not in keeping with district policy, most of them were old and I had taken the right steps to eliminate them so far as possible.

The district considers this a dead issue now.

And I hope it rapidly fades from everyone else’s memory as well.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:05:28pm

re: #162 De Kolta Chair

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:06:59pm

re: #168 No Depression

Fox News is talking about the GOP debate they’re hosting tonight (yes, another fucking one) like it’s a sporting event. “You can feel the tension! Everyone is buzzing! Excitement is in the air!” Blech.

I have a friend who avidly watches all the debates for their entertainment value. I watched one GOP debate and that was enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:07:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:08:38pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The guy posted (then deleted) the rally photo to his FB page.
eejit.

Boot gets the boot.

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SteelPH  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:09:15pm

re: #172 calochortus

I have a friend who avidly watches all the debates for their entertainment value. I watched one GOP debate and that was enough.

Doesn’t help that they essentially all run together: They just alternate between saying reprehensible things, hurling insults at eachother, and lying their asses off. Over and over and over.

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darthstar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:10:04pm
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A Mom Anon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:10:05pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

In just what in the hell does this dumb ass think a person would do with baby parts that they ordered off of the internet? Make stir fry? Perform some weird ritual? I’m really trying to wrap my head around what the FUCK these stupid buffoons think people do with all these alleged baby parts milling around everywhere. Do they not have the ability to think beyond step one of any idiotic series of thoughts? Never mind, I know, I know. Idiots. GAH.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:10:15pm

I don’t have the flu. I got a flu shot. This is just a little fever-spikey, body-achey, wracking-coughy, throbbing-behind-the-eyes common cold. It’ll pass by morning, I’m sure.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:10:22pm

re: #165 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wonderful news! Being that I’m a retired teacher and I’ve been reading your posts here about your job, I think the district is very fortunate to have someone like you in their employ. Before I retired, I met a lot of teachers, and I oftentimes wondered why some of them chose to work in the classroom because they didn’t give a damn about their students. They were as mean as snakes, and I couldn’t believe they were ever hired in the first place.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:10:28pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Coulter’s just mad because Mitt’s father wasn’t an asshole like her.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:11:31pm

re: #175 SteelPH

Doesn’t help that they essentially all run together: They just alternate between saying reprehensible things, hurling insults at eachother, and lying their asses off. Over and over and over.

I am neither entertained nor do I learn anything. If anyone pulls off their mask and reveals that they’re an alien, it will get coverage elsewhere.

182
Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:11:34pm

IF NOT ROMNEY, WHO? IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:12:44pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice how Trump always acts more like a stand up comedian than a politcian at his rallies?

Because he’s not a politician and has no idea how to be one. I’ve yet to hear any detailed policy statements from him on anything. It’s always “Mexicans are going to pay for the wall because I said so” type of nonsense from him. And no one is challenging him for details.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:13:02pm

re: #182 Nyet

ROMNEY IS WHAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS NOW

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:13:25pm

re: #184 Nyet

WHAT’S THEIR PROBLEM WITH ROMNEY?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:13:35pm

re: #179 majii

Wonderful news! Being that I’m a retired teacher and I’ve been reading your posts here about your job, I think the district is very fortunate to have someone like you in their employ. Before I retired, I met a lot of teachers, and I oftentimes wondered why some of them chose to work in the classroom because they didn’t give a damn about their students. They were as mean as snakes, and I couldn’t believe they were ever hired in the first place.

Thanks :)

I love the kids I work with and I am excited to teach when I can.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:16:23pm

re: #165 Aunty Entity Dragon

The district considers this a dead issue now.

;-)

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:17:09pm

The Age of Trump:

Donald Trump Gets AIDS In A New Movie, And That Has Studio Execs In A Panic

Audiences at screenings around the world, and some even in the United States, have been cheering and applauding a macabre scene in a new film by Sacha Baron Cohen in which “Donald Trump” accidentally contracts HIV.

[…]

At the film’s world premiere in London last week, the Daily Telegraph reported that the Trump moment was met with “loud cheering.” The Metro newspaper called it a “massive cheer.” A viewer at a different screening tweeted, “Went to watch Grimsby and the whole cinema clapped when Donald Trump got given AIDS in it.”

[…]

Back at Sony’s Hollywood headquarters, however, there has been much less enthusiasm about the scene in question. Three industry sources said that Sony had made its displeasure clear and pushed to remove the scene, but that Baron Cohen, in a rare deal for a producer-actor, has final authority over the film.

Studio executives are nervous about angering the famously vengeful and litigious Trump, compounded by the possibility of getting on the wrong side of the possible next president. Still traumatized by its run-in with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un in 2014, Sony decided its best option was to limit the damage. The film now includes a disclaimer indicating that Trump did not, in fact, participate in making the movie. “If you were told that they’re shying away from the movie because of the political implications, I can tell you that’s 100 percent true,” said a well-placed source.

[…]

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Maddies Mom  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:17:26pm

re: #141 Romantic Heretic

This should help explain it.

WOW! Long read but, WOW. Seems absolutely spot-on and terrifying.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:17:39pm

re: #172 calochortus

I have a friend who avidly watches all the debates for their entertainment value. I watched one GOP debate and that was enough.

I haven’t watched any and just the recaps are more than enough. Dying for the general election season to hurry on up and get here.

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:18:36pm

re: #184 Nyet

re: #185 Nyet

Because of course….

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:19:02pm

More Age of Trump:

Facebook comments about Donald Trump could mean deportation for Egyptian student

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:19:58pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:21:08pm

Fucking Chuck Toad.

“John Kasich hasn’t down anything to separate himself from Trump” or something like that. (Didn’t hear it all, I’m on the phone with my favorite bankers)

I don’t want to defend Kasich, even though I may be seen that way as I try to explain him as an Ohioan. I do not like Kasich and have never voted for him. Not going to change now.

But Jeezuz…what the hell has Mr. Master Political Wonk Chuck Toad been doing all this time? Kasich has done all he could do in his own way to not be Donald Trump.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:21:14pm

re: #192 freetoken

More Age of Trump:

Facebook comments about Donald Trump could mean deportation for Egyptian student

Ehm. In this case the student is the bad guy.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:21:23pm

re: #188 freetoken

The Age of Trump:

Donald Trump Gets AIDS In A New Movie, And That Has Studio Execs In A Panic

Dang, it’s not a Kirk Cameron production?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:21:34pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

“Halting the regulations would effectively allow power plants to emit unlimited mercury, arsenic, chromium, and other toxic heavy metals into the environment. […]”

Who in their right mind thinks it’s okay for power plants to emit unlimited amounts of toxic pollution into the environment animals and human beings live?
Do Conservatives not breathe air and drink water?

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:23:34pm

re: #178 Barefoot Grin

I don’t have the flu. I got a flu shot. This is just a little fever-spikey, body-achey, wracking-coughy, throbbing-behind-the-eyes common cold. It’ll pass by morning, I’m sure.

That’s what Hugo McKleebus said. Poor Hugo.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:23:50pm

re: #169 Nyet

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My cats have two brushes like that, except they’re blue. They LOVE those brushes—all I have to do is hold one of them up where they can see it and they’ll come racing over. Either that or say, “Do you wanna brush?” I have to be careful with that one though because it usually leads to a shoving & hissing match.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:23:54pm

re: #179 majii

Wonderful news! Being that I’m a retired teacher and I’ve been reading your posts here about your job, I think the district is very fortunate to have someone like you in their employ. Before I retired, I met a lot of teachers, and I oftentimes wondered why some of them chose to work in the classroom because they didn’t give a damn about their students. They were as mean as snakes, and I couldn’t believe they were ever hired in the first place.

Well, back in the day, women who didn’t want to be secretaries or nurses were kind of left with teacher as a job for an educated middle class woman. Then there were the men who were going to write the Great American Novel and didn’t or were going to make the major leagues and didn’t and felt really resentful that they had somehow ended up in a woman’s job.
I hope there are fewer these days, but I’d imagine the men finding themselves unaccountably ending up as teachers are joined by women who were going to write the Great American Novel (or whatever) and didn’t.

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:24:14pm

re: #195 Nyet

Ehm. In this case the student is the bad guy.

Well, as noted by the lawyer, the local DA chose not to prosecute the case.

Would you prosecute Donald Trump for threatening to commit murder on 5th Ave.?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:24:28pm

re: #193 Kragar

Or more likely, Rightwingers are so comfortable with bigotry that nothing is racist to them.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:25:20pm

re: #201 freetoken

Well, as noted by the lawyer, the local DA chose not to prosecute the case.

Sure, but sending him to his home country seems like the right decision.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:25:31pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

Straight GOPers can be this clueless. The non-straight GOPers don’t have that excuse.

Until very recently, growing up non-straight meant one thing above all else —- you had a secret that could very easily get you killed if it came out at the wrong place/time.

So you get reasonably good at threat assessment or you die.

Jenner knows exactly what the GOP so-cons want to do. She just doesn’t care because it won’t affect her personally.

It’s one of the advantages of being a blue state Republican. Jenner doesn’t have to worry about any of this because she lives in Los Angeles. And that’s probably why she’s clueless about it, no real understanding of what someone in, say, Springfield, Missouri would be facing.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:26:36pm

The newly-added defendants are each charged with one count of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States and conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, and at least one count of using and carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of the due administration of justice, interference with interstate commerce by extortion and interstate travel in aid of extortion. The indictment also alleges five counts of criminal forfeiture which upon conviction would require forfeiture of property derived from the proceeds of the crimes totaling at least $3 million, as well as the firearms and ammunition possessed and used on April 12, 2014.

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:27:35pm

re: #203 Nyet

Sure, but sending him to his home country seems like the right decision.

So, you don’t see his “threat” as the kind of mindless, derisive but not actionable comment that is ubiquitous and endemic online?

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:28:29pm

re: #193 Kragar

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Ironic that he calls it “My latest,” since most if not all of the quotes are from 2008 or before.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:28:32pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

“Halting the regulations would effectively allow power plants to emit unlimited mercury, arsenic, chromium, and other toxic heavy metals into the environment. […]”

Who in their right mind thinks it’s okay for power plants to emit unlimited amounts of toxic pollution into the environment animals and human beings live?
Do Conservatives not breathe air and drink water?

The power plants aren’t anywhere near their neighborhoods, so they don’t care.

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Danack  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:29:05pm

re: #205 Kragar

which upon conviction would require forfeiture…. as well as the firearms and ammunition possessed and used on April 12, 2014.

Molon labe in your face, mofos.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:29:05pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

Many conservatives seem to be of the mind that “sh*t always happens to someone else.” In the school district from which I retired, which is heavily GOP/TP, there is a cancer hot-spot related to well water that’s causing problems for the residents. Only after this happened to them did they begin to care about having potable drinking water, free from contamination.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:29:28pm

re: #193 Kragar

Some on the right didn’t want to believe they were racist, and chose to ignore the charges, and then the embraced those that openly accepted the charges.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:29:49pm

re: #193 Kragar

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Of course—Trump is Obama’s fault and his followers’ racism is liberals’ fault. Makes perfect sense. Personal responsibility! Maybe if they actually tried taking some they wouldn’t be so thoroughly reviled.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:30:17pm

re: #206 freetoken

So, you don’t see his “threat” as the kind of mindless, derisive but not actionable comment that is ubiquitous and endemic online?

I see that as a wholly legitimate cause for a deportation of any non-citizen.

Now imagine he said that about Obama. Still not convinced, or do you make an exception for people you don’t like?

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:30:27pm

re: #192 freetoken

More Age of Trump:

Facebook comments about Donald Trump could mean deportation for Egyptian student

……allegedly posting on Facebook that if he killed Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump he would be doing the world a favor.

If accurate, this is advocating assassination and it is totally unacceptable.

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:31:24pm

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel

If accurate, this is advocating assassination and it is totally unacceptable.

I agree… if that is actually what he meant.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:31:41pm

re: #195 Nyet

Ehm. In this case the student is the bad guy.

n Egyptian student at a Southern California flight school is being held by immigration authorities and facing possible deportation after allegedly posting on Facebook that if he killed Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump he would be doing the world a favor.

Lindsey Graham basically said the same thing about Cruz. Should we arrest him?

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:32:15pm

re: #213 Nyet

Now imagine he said that about Obama. Still not convinced, or do you make an exception for people you don’t like?

Alleged threats have to be determined to be actual threats.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:32:54pm

re: #216 Belafon

Lindsey Graham basically said the same thing about Cruz. Should we arrest him?

Graham is a citizen so he cannot be deported. Unfortunately.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:33:22pm

re: #216 Belafon

Lindsey Graham basically said the same thing about Cruz. Should we arrest him?

No, but if he were a foreign national and you asked if we should tell him he’s no longer welcome in this country, I wouldn’t necessarily say no.

Very different standards of evidence, very different level of reasonable expectation on the part of the speaker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:33:48pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

“Halting the regulations would effectively allow power plants to emit unlimited mercury, arsenic, chromium, and other toxic heavy metals into the environment. […]”

Who in their right mind thinks it’s okay for power plants to emit unlimited amounts of toxic pollution into the environment animals and human beings live?
Do Conservatives not breathe air and drink water?

They can afford to live upwind and upstream

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:33:54pm

re: #217 freetoken

Alleged threats have to be determined to be actual threats.

Not necessarily. I have no problem with verbal threats being the determinant of whether a migrant stays in the country or not.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:35:04pm

re: #218 Nyet

Graham is a citizen so he cannot be deported. Unfortunately.

That’s not how the first amendment works.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:35:12pm

There’s a difference between disowning a family member and telling a foul-mouthed dinner guest to get out of your house.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:35:21pm

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

Who in their right mind thinks it’s okay for power plants to emit unlimited amounts of toxic pollution into the environment animals and human beings live?

People who’s second homes look like this:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:35:29pm

re: #223 Testy Toad T

There’s a difference between disowning a family member and telling a foul-mouthed dinner guest to get out of your house.

At times, unfortunately.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:36:15pm

re: #179 majii

Wonderful news! Being that I’m a retired teacher and I’ve been reading your posts here about your job, I think the district is very fortunate to have someone like you in their employ. Before I retired, I met a lot of teachers, and I oftentimes wondered why some of them chose to work in the classroom because they didn’t give a damn about their students. They were as mean as snakes, and I couldn’t believe they were ever hired in the first place.

My first & fourth grade teacher were—I still remember them. I don’t recall my third & fifth grade teachers but I have a name in my head that I think belongs to one. Anyway, my second grade teacher was horrible. Like the ones you mentioned, she was mean, bitter and spiteful and seemed to hate children. She really had it out for me for some reason that I still don’t understand. I was a shy, quiet kid that loved learning and never caused trouble so… who know? I remember being puzzled and hurt by her apparent hatred though.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:36:17pm

re: #223 Testy Toad T

There’s a difference between disowning a family member and telling a foul-mouthed dinner guest to get out of your house.

True, but I can throw a Bible thumper out of my house. The government can’t do a thing to the person for quoting the Bible.

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:36:18pm

Is “turning of heads” a new thing?

In a delightful Breitbart article about the congressional PP hearings:

Though Planned Parenthood has denied any wrongdoing in its sale of body parts, the abortion business also released a statement in October announcing it will no longer accept payments for aborted fetal tissue. The organization and its media supporters continue to insist the videos, produced by CMP, were “deceptively edited.”

As is often the case, you need to read the comments to really sip at the “Chalice of Dementia”:

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:36:39pm

re: #222 Belafon

That’s not how the first amendment works.

That’s how immigration law works.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:39:13pm

Citizenship is like tenure: once you get there, you can spout whatever crap you want, but first you have to get there, and you can’t if you spout whatever crap you want in the process.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:39:42pm

re: #229 Nyet

That’s how immigration law works.

True. For example, American Nazis can do and say a lot of things that would get a foreign Nazi deported forthwith or denied admission in the first place.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:39:54pm

re: #211 Belafon

I have no doubt that most in the GOP/TP have been aware of the racism in the party for a very long time. I think the reason they didn’t speak out against it before now is because they fear the backlash from the far right members in the party. These rank-and filers suffer from the same cowardice as their politicians who have also known about the rampant racism, homophobia, and misogyny that infests the party. I find it ironic and amusing that Ryan and others have “found” their courage only when Trump is threatening their chance to win the WH in November. As a POC, this says to me that they don’t give a damn if others are mistreated. They’re rank opportunists with a strong self-interest.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:40:14pm

re: #229 Nyet

That’s how immigration law works.

Well, if that’s the case, then I hope I can donate to this persons fund. Lot’s of people make those comment, Graham for instance. They should determine if it’s an actual threat. The First Amendment should still apply to the government regardless of the status of the person.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:40:18pm
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No Depression  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:41:23pm

Check out this bit of wishful thinking:

Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:41:25pm

re: #233 Belafon

Well, if that’s the case, then I hope I can donate to this persons fund. Lot’s of people make those comment, Graham for instance. They should determine if it’s an actual threat. The First Amendment should still apply to the government regardless of the status of the person.

It has nothing to do with the first amendment. His speech is not being suppressed.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:41:44pm

re: #223 Testy Toad T

There’s a difference between disowning a family member and telling a foul-mouthed dinner guest to get out of your house.

Only had to do it once years ago, when after a few drinks someone turned from hippy nice guy into the offspring of Martin Luther and Henry Ford.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:42:43pm

re: #235 No Depression

Check out this bit of wishful thinking:

Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday

Oh, it’s Cenk. Par for the course. *eyeroll*

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:43:07pm

re: #235 No Depression

Check out this bit of wishful thinking:

Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday

I admit it’s my homestate bias but the complete dismissal of Clinton’s win and by extension Bernie’s loss in Va is driving me nuts. Good for Bernie for winning Minnesota and Colorado. He still has a huge problem that his wife didn’t help with non-white voters.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:44:03pm

re: #235 No Depression

Check out this bit of wishful thinking:

Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday

Summary? I’d prefer not to give dumb crap pageviews.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:44:14pm

re: #238 CuriousLurker

Oh, it’s Cenk. Par for the course. *eyeroll*

I don’t know a lot about Cenk.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:44:46pm

re: #236 Nyet

It has nothing to do with the first amendment. His speech is not being suppressed.

Actually, in this case it is. His status as a visitor here is being threatened. If he were to get fired from a job, then no it wouldn’t be. It’s the fact that the government is taking action against him if they don’t investigate first, that is the problem I am having.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:45:57pm

re: #240 Testy Toad T

Summary? I’d prefer not to give dumb crap pageviews.

Your usual the states that Hillary won didn’t matter and are irrelevant to a GE(see what I said about my state for reference to why Cenk’s full of bullshit) and Colorado and Minnesota are. It’s a whole lot of wishful thinking on Cenk’s part.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:45:57pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I don’t know a lot about Cenk.

If you watch a couple of clips of him on his “Young Turks” show on YouTube you’ll see what I mean. BTW, what did Bernie’s wife do? I must’ve missed that…

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:45:57pm

re: #235 No Depression

“She’s gaining no new voters.”

Sorry for the repeat link, but:

Clinton Opens Up +14 Lead In New Ipsos/Reuters National Poll. Pledged Delegate Lead Now +197.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:46:10pm

re: #212 CuriousLurker

Of course—Trump is Obama’s fault and his followers’ racism is liberals’ fault. Makes perfect sense. Personal responsibility! Maybe if they actually tried taking some they wouldn’t be so thoroughly reviled.

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:46:10pm

re: #213 Nyet

Now imagine he said that about Obama. Still not convinced, or do you make an exception for people you don’t like?

Believe it or not Sergey, I would require the same for anybody. Credible, actual threats are important. Sometimes, perhaps most of the time, what is written on the internet is not so important.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:46:30pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

If you watch a couple of clips of him on his “Young Turks” show on YouTube you’ll see what I mean. BTW, what did Bernie’s wife do? I must’ve missed that…

Mrs. Sanders basically said African-Americans weren’t voting for her husband because they don’t know him. I’ll look it on YouTube some time though. Anything notable though?

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:46:56pm

re: #240 Testy Toad T

Summary? I’d prefer not to give dumb crap pageviews.

Heh, I got as far as the byline then closed the tab.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:47:46pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Ah, okay. Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:47:51pm

I even had one Facebook friend from California say that California should get more of a say since in his words they’re the most robust economy in the nation. Man I wanted to tear into that so bad but I decided it just wasn’t fucking worth it. The irony is I think Clinton will win CA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:47:57pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

If you watch a couple of clips of him on his “Young Turks” show on YouTube you’ll see what I mean. BTW, what did Bernie’s wife do? I must’ve missed that…

She was on Chris Hayes’ show last night and was obliviously insulting to non-white voters in the southern states.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:48:03pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Ah, okay. Thanks.

Not a prob.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:48:06pm

re: #245 Nyet

Clinton Opens Up +14 Lead In New Ipsos/Reuters National Poll. Pledged Delegate Lead Now +197.

“Okay, that was fun, now let’s all stop dreaming and get serious”

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:48:12pm

re: #242 Belafon

Actually, in this case it is. His status as a visitor here is being threatened.

He doesn’t have a right to be in the US aside from that granted by the govt though. And the govt is free to decide which criteria it uses. So no, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the 1st amendment. As Shiplord Kirel pointed out, a foreign neo-Nazi can easily be refused entry based on his speech alone, which would be fully legal in the US under the 1st amdt.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:48:42pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Oh, many of us know who he is. We discuss politics quite often. It was the “blacks are uninformed” part of her comment that was the most offensive to me.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:49:46pm

re: #247 freetoken

Believe it or not Sergey, I would require the same for anybody. Credible, actual threats are important. Sometimes, perhaps most of the time, what is written on the internet is not so important.

It’s a legitimate opinion, but I’m glad to defer to your govt. on this issue. Their opinion will be decisive.

And: it has nothing to do with “age of Trump”.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:49:50pm

re: #255 Nyet

He doesn’t have a right to be in the US aside from that granted by the govt though. And the govt is free to decide which criteria it uses. So no, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the 1st amendment. As Shiplord Kirel pointed out, a foreign neo-Nazi can easily be refused entry based on his speech alone, which would be fully legal in the US under the 1st amdt.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, the government does still has to be covered by the Constitution. Whether or not the person on the other end is a US citizen.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:50:07pm

re: #256 majii

Oh, many of us know who he is. We discuss politics quite often. It was the “blacks are uninformed” part of her comment that was the most offensive to me.

But, if you really, really knew him you’d be convinced!
/

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:50:40pm

re: #256 majii

Oh, many of us know who he is. We discuss politics quite often. It was the “blacks are uninformed” part of her comment that was the most offensive to me.

Oh I know that the African-American community is familiar with him. Sorry if I didn’t make that part clear. I have the same issue you do with her language and rhetoric. The whole uninformed crap really pissed me off too.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:51:42pm

re: #246 Kragar

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Forty years ago? It was those damned hippies’ fault!!

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:51:49pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I think CA should have an earlier primary because FUCK IOWA.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:51:50pm

re: #258 Belafon

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, the government does still has to be covered by the Constitution. Whether or not the person on the other end is a US citizen.

And it wouldn’t be in the least unconstitutional to revoke his right to remain in the US. Still nothing to do with the 1st amdt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:51:51pm

re: #259 calochortus

But, if you really, really knew him you’d be convinced!
/

and the Obama Coalition is dead!

///////////

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:51:57pm

re: #257 Nyet

And: it has nothing to do with “age of Trump”.

It’s the Age of Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:52:12pm

re: #119 Aunty Entity Dragon

I know several trans women who are still Republicans. …snip

Nothing in the process is designed to make you smart.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:52:22pm

What’s that you say? You’re in the mood to watch a cat video?

meow mix

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:52:31pm

re: #262 Kragar

I think CA should have an earlier primary because FUCK IOWA.

I’d like to have more diverse states in the early primaries too but this was a clear fuck the South for not voting for my candidate drivel.

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Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:52:48pm

re: #254 Testy Toad T

“Okay, that was fun, now let’s all stop dreaming and get serious”

It’s all Bernie or Bust all day on FB right now.

Yammering about conspiracy theories and the corporate media. They sound eerily like the far right.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:09pm

re: #265 freetoken

It’s the Age of Trump.

Whether the guy should or should not be in the US (I think should not) has nothing to do with Trump.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:36pm

re: #263 Nyet

And it wouldn’t be in the least unconstitutional to revoke his right to remain in the US. Still nothing to do with the 1st amdt.

Except for the part where he has the right to free speech, or, as the constitution puts it “Congress shall pass no law abridging the right to free speech.” That’s the rub. They cannot punish him for speech that is not meant to incite.

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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:40pm

re: #269 Jack Burton

ESTABLISHMENT!!!

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:45pm

re: #270 Nyet

Whether the guy should or should not be in the US (I think should not) has nothing to do with Trump.

Except, of course, his statement was actually about Trump.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:53:53pm

re: #269 Jack Burton

It’s all Bernie or Bust all day on FB right now.

Yammering about conspiracy theories and the corporate media. They sound eerily like the far right.

IT’s all reminding me why I went from more far left to the more center left individual i am today.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:54:05pm

re: #262 Kragar

I think CA should have an earlier primary because FUCK IOWA.

Except that it’s so peaceful here without the campaign ads.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:54:09pm

re: #271 Belafon

Except for the part where he has the right to free speech, or, as the constitution puts it “Congress shall pass no law abridging the right to free speech.” That’s the rub. They cannot punish him for speech that is not meant to incite.

He has his right to free speech. He just won’t have a right to remain in the US.

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:54:23pm

re: #267 Charles Johnson

I am sure somebody could list the drugs that you should not be on when you watch that video

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:55:09pm

re: #276 calochortus

Except that it’s so peaceful here without the campaign ads.

I’m definitely going to protest a Trump rally when he’s out here.

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freetoken  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:56:02pm

re: #276 calochortus

Except that it’s so peaceful here without the campaign ads.

I have yet to see a campaign sign in someone’s yard.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:57:04pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if Trump will give her a prime-time speaking slot at the convention.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:57:57pm

Alrighty, I’m gonna go make some Mexican hot chocolate and catch up on the 411 on my #YallQaeda Twitter list. Should be interesting.

Then maybe I’ll read about pigments. Or WWI. Had to quit the book on white supremacists for now as I’m OD’ed on them given the current climate

Later, lizards.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:59:03pm

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder if Trump will give her a prime-time speaking slot at the convention.

He’s talked about giving her a role in his administration. I’d be shocked if she didn’t speak. And the rest of us would be happy if we’d never have to hear that voice again.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:59:03pm

re: #277 Nyet

He has his right to free speech. He just won’t have a right to remain in the US.

So, extending your thinking, non-citizens don’t have a right to a trial?

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 2:59:11pm

re: #280 freetoken

I have yet to see a campaign sign in someone’s yard.

Nice, isn’t it?

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:00:17pm

re: #284 Belafon

So, extending your thinking, non-citizens don’t have a right to a trial?

It’s not extending my thinking, it’s building a silly strawman.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:00:38pm

Product Safety Announcement

Last night someone posted a folk tale about drinking beer to avoid chocolate cravings. Incompatible. Doesn’t work with Samoas/Black & Tan.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:00:50pm

I wanted to thank everyone here though. This is the most sane place on the internet politically. I like a lot of the people in my facebook feed but man it’s like they like to tempt me to feeling more centrist than I actually am.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:17pm

re: #284 Belafon

So, extending your thinking, non-citizens don’t have a right to a trial?

That is not in any way an extension of thinking, because all people in this country have a right to trial granted in the US Constitution. The Constitution does not, AFAIK, make any note whatsoever as to foreign nationals having, under a specific set of criteria, any right to enter or remain within the borders of the United States.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:22pm

re: #145 Whack-A-Mole

Just spitballing here off a random thought:

Assuming Trump wins the GOP nomination, do you think Hillary inviting someone like Susan Collins on the ticket as VP would draw enough on-the-fence voters away from Trump top be worth the risk of the pick?

No, I don’t. Not that Collins would accept, or that Hillary will offer. Clinton needs a minority VP, someone like Julian Castro or Corey Booker.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:31pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

I’m definitely going to protest a Trump rally when he’s out here.

I wonder where he would hold a rally here? I think you’d want a population center some distance inland to get his supporters. If you can afford to live along the coast you’re probably too well educated (and maybe don’t have the free time) to attend.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:33pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

Product Safety Announcement

Last night someone posted a folk tale about drinking beer to avoid chocolate cravings. Incompatible. Doesn’t work with Samoas/Black & Tan.

I did Nutter Butters once with Rolling Rock. Homer Simpson’s Skittlebrau works though.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:46pm

re: #267 Charles Johnson

What’s that you say? You’re in the mood to watch a cat video?

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Video

That is no mere cat video, Charles. That is a masterpiece.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:01:59pm

re: #284 Belafon

So, extending your thinking, non-citizens don’t have a right to a trial?

The thing is, when someone is on US soil, the government has to act with them the same as they would every citizen. Now, yes, they can be removed, but the government should have to deal with them the same as every citizen, meaning the Constitution still has to guide their actions.

My point is that, since he’s here, he has a right to free speech, not because the constitution says so, but because the onus is on the government to prove that his speech is bad.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:02:01pm

re: #288 HappyWarrior

It’s a good place to be a Hillary supporter (or a reasonable Bernie supporter) ;)

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:02:15pm

No wonder the Travis County GOP are losing their shit over the guy who just won the chairmanship:

Jesus. This guy is like a Free Republic comments section come to life.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:02:56pm

re: #290 Big Beautiful Door

No, I don’t. Not that Collins would accept, or that Hillary will offer. Clinton needs a minority VP, someone like Julian Castro or Corey Booker.

I really like Castro for the spot. Booker works too though. I like both of them since they have some executive experience and some inside Washington experience too. No idea who else she’s considering but I definitely feel her pick should be a minority and I think both of those would be excellent choices.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:03:14pm

re: #295 Nyet

It’s a good place to be a Hillary supporter (or a reasonable Bernie supporter) ;)

Good place to be a reasonable person period.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:03:15pm

re: #289 Testy Toad T

Note that I explicitly agreed with Belafon that non-citizens have a right of free speech, so I don’t get where this “they don’t have a right to trial” comes from.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:03:20pm

re: #289 Testy Toad T

That is not in any way an extension of thinking, because all people in this country have a right to trial granted in the US Constitution. The Constitution does not, AFAIK, make any note whatsoever as to foreign nationals having, under a specific set of criteria, any right to enter or remain within the borders of the United States.

I’m not saying he has a right to be here. I’m saying he has the right to free speech, and that the government must prove that his speech is bad enough that it has to take action.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:03:59pm

re: #296 Lidane

No wonder the Travis County GOP are losing their shit over the guy who just won the chairmanship:

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Jesus. This guy is like a Free Republic comments section come to life.

Someone’s been watching Oliver Stone movies.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:04:39pm

re: #300 Belafon

I’m not saying he has a right to be here. I’m saying he has the right to free speech, and that the government must prove that his speech is bad enough that it has to take action.

That’s incoherent. He is not facing any criminal proceedings AFAIK, and his right to free speech has not been infringed, and you literally just wrote that he has no right to be here, so the government could take action even if he hadn’t opened his mouth at all (although it would be a real dick move).

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:04:43pm
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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:05:50pm

re: #294 Belafon

The thing is, when someone is on US soil, the government has to act with them the same as they would every citizen. Now, yes, they can be removed, but the government should have to deal with them the same as every citizen, meaning the Constitution still has to guide their actions.

My point is that, since he’s here, he has a right to free speech, not because the constitution says so, but because the onus is on the government to prove that his speech is bad.

Not quite. Example: there’s no way a citizen can violate the admission rules. Because there are no admission rules for already-citizens. So that’s one thing that non-citizens have to deal with that citizens don’t.

If the govt wanted to try the guy, it’s a whole another story. He would have to be treated like everyone else.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:06:07pm

re: #291 calochortus

I wonder where he would hold a rally here? I think you’d want a population center some distance inland to get his supporters. If you can afford to live along the coast you’re probably too well educated (and maybe don’t have the free time) to attend.

Riverside.

Jamul

haha.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:07:05pm

re: #302 Testy Toad T

That’s incoherent. He is not facing any criminal proceedings AFAIK, and his right to free speech has not been infringed, and you literally just wrote that he has no right to be here, so the government could take action even if he hadn’t opened his mouth at all (although it would be a real dick move).

OK, let me expand the first sentence here: I’m not saying he has the right to be here if the conditions of his stay have been violated by him. What I am arguing is that, in order for the government to prove that his conditions have been violated, they have to prove that is exceeds his right to free speech. They can’t just throw him out for making a statement.

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No Depression  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:08:16pm

Feminist Frequency and Crash Override Team Up to Increase Services for Victims of Online Abuse

My GamerGate Doppler radar is calling for an 80% chance of neckbeard spittle.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:09:51pm

re: #306 Belafon

they have to prove that is exceeds his right to free speech. They can’t just throw him out for making a statement.

Ah, here you’re making a novel statement which you will have to beef up, because it’s not self-obvious. Who says they can’t throw him out for a statement that is not actionable but still shows the person to be an undesirable?

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:10:03pm

re: #305 Stanley Sea

Riverside.

Jamul

haha.

Yeah, Riverside. Or Fresno, or San Bernardino.
Why Jamul? Does he want to build a wall through it?

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:10:19pm
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Jenner7  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:11:16pm
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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:11:40pm

re: #262 Kragar

I think CA should have an earlier primary because FUCK IOWA.

As a Californian, I just want to say fuck that. I would hate being inundated with ads for most of these assholes. Plus, if California were too early in the process there’d be no chance for someone like Obama to win a nomination. We have at least three major media markets (Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco) and I don’t even know how many smaller markets. Travel wouldn’t be easier either (you can drive across Iowa or New Hampshire in a short amount of time, you can’t get from LA to south Orange County in less than 6 hours if its rush hour.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:12:25pm

re: #310 Kragar

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Saying Obama sympathized with the Benghazi attackers wasn’t enough for her? By the way, is she in Camp Trump or Cruz? Gut says Cruz because of the shared religious nuttery but could just easy be Trump since xenophobia is a huge part of her makeup.

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CarolJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:12:26pm

re: #224 De Kolta Chair

I wonder what the Throne Room looks like?

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:12:59pm

re: #312 KGxvi

But you’re overlooking the whole FUCK IOWA part.
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:13:16pm

re: #315 Kragar

But you’re overlooking the whole FUCK IOWA part.
///

If you build it, he will come.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:13:29pm

re: #204 KGxvi

It’s one of the advantages of being a blue state Republican. Jenner doesn’t have to worry about any of this because she lives in Los Angeles. And that’s probably why she’s clueless about it, no real understanding of what someone in, say, Springfield, Missouri would be facing.

Jenner was born in 1949. She most certainly did have to worry about this when she was growing up. Since she didn’t get herself killed back then, it seems her threat detection capability is more than sufficient to understand what so-cons want to do.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:13:54pm

re: #311 Jenner7

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Of course not because they were all got given and stuff the passwords at the Clinton Foundation sleepover. //

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:15:20pm

They just mentioned on The News Hour that the Obamas will likely stay in DC after he leaves office so Sasha can finish high school there (she’s in 9th grade now.) Will this be fuel for the idea that he really isn’t going to leave office? Should I break out the popcorn?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:16:10pm

re: #309 calochortus

Yeah, Riverside. Or Fresno, or San Bernardino.
Why Jamul? Does he want to build a wall through it?

I think I was thinking of Hemet & came up with Jamul. Ya, too close to the border for Drumpf.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:16:40pm

re: #320 Stanley Sea

I think I was thinking of Hemet & came up with Jamul. Ya, too close to the border for Drumpf.

Hemet works too.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:16:46pm

re: #306 Belafon

OK, let me expand the first sentence here: I’m not saying he has the right to be here if the conditions of his stay have been violated by him. What I am arguing is that, in order for the government to prove that his conditions have been violated, they have to prove that is exceeds his right to free speech. They can’t just throw him out for making a statement.

I’m sorry but yes they can. He’s a foreign student here on visa at a flight school in post 9/11 America who made a not very vague threat against a Secret Service protectee. Nothing about that is protected speech. The government can summarily put him on the No Fly list and send his ass back home on a trans-oceanic cargo ship if they want.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:16:50pm

re: #232 majii

I have no doubt that most in the GOP/TP have been aware of the racism in the party for a very long time. I think the reason they didn’t speak out against it before now is because they fear the backlash from the far right members in the party. These rank-and filers suffer from the same cowardice as their politicians who have also known about the rampant racism, homophobia, and misogyny that infests the party. I find it ironic and amusing that Ryan and others have “found” their courage only when Trump is threatening their chance to win the WH in November. As a POC, this says to me that they don’t give a damn if others are mistreated. They’re rank opportunists with a strong self-interest.

This times a thousand. The only real problem the GOP establishment has with Trump is that they think he will lose in the general election.

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Ming5000  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:17:25pm

re: #311 Jenner7

Let me check the RWNJ media…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:17:31pm

re: #321 calochortus

Hemet works too.

I totally vote for Hemet.
Right in the middle of white supremacist and sovcit territory.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:17:48pm

re: #319 calochortus

They just mentioned on The News Hour that the Obamas will likely stay in DC after he leaves office so Sasha can finish high school there (she’s in 9th grade now.) Will this be fuel for the idea that he really isn’t going to leave office? Should I break out the popcorn?

Why not? I am glad they’re doing that for her. She’s probably got a lot of friends she’s made since they moved here from Chicago. I wonder where they’ll get a place. Plenty of nice places to live in the DC Metro area.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:17:49pm

re: #172 calochortus

I have a friend who avidly watches all the debates for their entertainment value. I watched one GOP debate and that was enough.

I watch them for entertainment too. Tonights cage match in which Cruz and Rubio tag team Trump should be spectacular. Of course watching their hero get “unfairly” attacked by two furriners will only energize Trump’s base further.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:18:18pm

re: #312 KGxvi

As a Californian, I just want to say fuck that. I would hate being inundated with ads for most of these assholes. Plus, if California were too early in the process there’d be no chance for someone like Obama to win a nomination. We have at least three major media markets (Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco) and I don’t even know how many smaller markets. Travel wouldn’t be easier either (you can drive across Iowa or New Hampshire in a short amount of time, you can’t get from LA to south Orange County in less than 6 hours if its rush hour.

Yeah an early California primary would break all but the wealthiest campaigns.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:19:16pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

Yeah an early California primary would break all but the wealthiest campaigns.

Which is funny because the guy advocating this is one of the most lefty people I know. Honestly, I’d prefer some more diverse states than Iowa and New Hampshire but as you guys have gotten at, the other side isn’t an optimal solution either.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:19:49pm

Anyone else notice that the broad run of HRC online photos are much more flattering for the last couple days? Talking advertisements and news shots. Photos used seem better lit, focused, and selected to avoid goofy/hag expressions.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:20:28pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Why not? I am glad they’re doing that for her. She’s probably got a lot of friends she’s made since they moved here from Chicago. I wonder where they’ll get a place. Plenty of nice places to live in the DC Metro area.

Absolutely. I think it shows that they are caring parents.

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:21:27pm

re: #327 Big Beautiful Door

I watch them for entertainment too. Tonights cage match in which Cruz and Rubio tag team Trump should be spectacular. Of course watching their hero get “unfairly” attacked by two furriners will only energize Trump’s base further.

I hope it lives up down to your expectations. I have no objection to other people enjoying it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:21:35pm

re: #331 calochortus

Absolutely. I think it shows that they are caring parents.

Wonder where her sister is going to go to college. I think Malia is a senior this year. They’re a nice family. I’ll be said to see them go next year.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:22:39pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Wonder where her sister is going to go to college. I think Malia is a senior this year. They’re a nice family. I’ll be said to see them go next year.

I’ll be very glad to see them all out of DC alive.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:23:37pm

re: #334 Decatur Deb

I’ll be very glad to see them all out of DC alive.

So far so good. It’s a credit to the Secret Service that there hasn’t been a serious attempt on his life. That’s gotta be such a tough job.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:24:17pm

Ok, DKOS has officially gone of the deep end for me. They now have a diary, on the wreck list, that is detailing all the laws Hillary may have violated regarding her email server.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:25:03pm

I swear, Drumpf supporters are some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.

Me: “Mexico isn’t going to pay for a wall. Ever. Total non-starter. Also, if you think a 2,000 mile wall can be built on the cheap, without eminent domain, with our current total national capacity of concrete and rebar, and by forcing another country to pay for it, you’re an idiot.”

Drumpf supporter: “China managed to build a wall without a single Caterpillar. And it’s still standing.”

Me: “China built what we call the Great Wall over CENTURIES. It took several dynasties to see the whole thing built, an untold number of slaves to build it, and even then, it didn’t work.”

Drumpf supporter: “Well, we’ve gotten better and faster at construction now. Drumpf will be able to do it for a lot less than you think. Plus we can just slap tariffs on Mexico to pay for it.”

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:25:09pm

re: #336 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Good diaries pop up from time to time, but they’re a minority.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:25:10pm

re: #336 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ok, DKOS has officially gone of the deep end for me. They now have a diary, on the wreck list, that is detailing all the laws Hillary may have violated regarding her email server.

Strange that no one is looking into that.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:25:23pm

re: #319 calochortus

Will this be fuel for the idea that he really isn’t going to leave office? Should I break out the popcorn?

We should be so lucky
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:25:39pm

re: #201 freetoken

Well, as noted by the lawyer, the local DA chose not to prosecute the case.

Would you prosecute Donald Trump for threatening to commit murder on 5th Ave.?

He didn’t threaten a specific person, like the student did. In Trump’s case, it was clear hyperbole.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:01pm

re: #337 Lidane

I swear, Drumpf supporters are some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.

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God they’re clueless.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:08pm

re: #336 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ok, DKOS has officially gone of the deep end for me. They now have a diary, on the wreck list, that is detailing all the laws Hillary may have violated regarding her email server.

I haven’t gone back since the epic meltdown in the wake of the ‘14 elections.

I’ve found I’ve been a lot happier and less stressed out without that cage of shrieking harpies.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:13pm

re: #294 Belafon

The thing is, when someone is on US soil, the government has to act with them the same as they would every citizen. Now, yes, they can be removed, but the government should have to deal with them the same as every citizen, meaning the Constitution still has to guide their actions.

My point is that, since he’s here, he has a right to free speech, not because the constitution says so, but because the onus is on the government to prove that his speech is bad.

Umm, perhaps you missed this.

A federal law enforcement source who was not authorized to discuss the case publicly said that when Elsayed was interviewed by a Secret Service agent he did not withdraw the statement.

I think this just might have something to do with them wanting to deport him.

Beside, as was mentioned up thread. Yes, you have a right to free speech. But exercising it can and does have consequences as the young Marine wanna be found out.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:34pm

re: #340 De Kolta Chair

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He thought he was the king of America where they pour Coca-cola just like vintage wine….

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:26:43pm

re: #340 De Kolta Chair

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I’ll be honest, I’m not too fond of forced term limits. That said, I think Obama’s looking forward to retirement.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:05pm

re: #267 Charles Johnson

What’s that you say? You’re in the mood to watch a cat video?

Why, yes. How’d you know?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:24pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

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No, that’s why you don’t disavow the nazis. Wait….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:31pm

*thud*

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:43pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like that they have a pic of Marsha Blackburn with the quote from Diane Black. They truly are two idiotic peas in a moron pod.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:48pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

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Well it all makes sense now. I’m going to go wash my hair with a burrito because that makes as much sense as refusing to condemn the KKK out of fear of offending Jews.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:27:56pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

At this point he’s purely trolling.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:28:29pm

re: #206 freetoken

So, you don’t see his “threat” as the kind of mindless, derisive but not actionable comment that is ubiquitous and endemic online?

Foreigners don’t get to joke about assassinating a US presidential candidate. Its like joking about having a bomb while at the airport. You just don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:28:48pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*thud*

Hey Reince, how’s that rebranding working out? I apologize, your rebranding was a smashing success. It made a white supremacist into your frontrunner. Great job buddy!

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:28:58pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

God they’re clueless.

And he just came back at me with this stupidity:

“Little bitty Israel is building a wall over 400 miles long, started in 2003 and about half done. I think the US can handle it.”

MORONS. ALL OF THEM.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:29:15pm

“And I don’t like to disavow groups if I don’t know who they are.”

Riiight.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:29:40pm

re: #336 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ok, DKOS has officially gone of the deep end for me. They now have a diary, on the wreck list, that is detailing all the laws Hillary may have violated regarding her email server.

Jumping Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. It’s a good thing I don’t comment there, because I would be most unkind to those supposedly on my side who spout this level of idiocy.

Emailgate is a big fat nothing burger, just like countless other GOP manufactured scandals about the Clintons.

What’s next for these meatheads? Revisiting the Vince Foster case?

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:29:41pm

re: #145 Whack-A-Mole

Just spitballing here off a random thought:

Assuming Trump wins the GOP nomination, do you think Hillary inviting someone like Susan Collins on the ticket as VP would draw enough on-the-fence voters away from Trump top be worth the risk of the pick?

All I can say is UGH/

No to the millionth. We do not need a Republican vice president—I think that would a terrible idea.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:29:54pm

re: #356 Lidane

And he just came back at me with this stupidity:

MORONS. ALL OF THEM.

That’s not even worth it. God from Tear down this wall, Mr. Gorbachev to Build up this wall, Mr. Drumpf.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:31:14pm

re: #222 Belafon

That’s not how the first amendment works.

Doesn’t apply to threats to assassinate a US presidential candidate.

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Lidane  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:31:48pm

Eric Bolling is a shameless whore:

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:32:08pm

Smith & Wesson Lifts Outlook, Production Plans Amid Demand Surge

Smith & Wesson (SWHC) soundly beat third-quarter expectations and raised its guidance again Thursday, and the gun maker plans to boost production of “key products” this quarter as fears of future gun regulations lift demand.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:33:06pm

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Well it all makes sense now. I’m going to go wash my hair with a burrito because that makes as much sense as refusing to condemn the KKK out of fear of offending Jews.

I think washing your hair with a burrito make much more sense then refusing to condemn the KKK out of fear of offending Jews.

It’s actually really hard to come up with a comparable analogy. Perhaps sunbathing in the large hadron collider, but even that is a bit too tame.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:33:07pm

re: #354 Big Beautiful Door

Foreigners don’t get to joke about assassinating a US presidential candidate. Its like joking about having a bomb while at the airport. You just don’t.

Bureaucrat Failure Effects Analysis:

A. Homeland Security kicks him out, and he was harmless—they are Big Meanies.
B. Homeland Security does not kick him out, and he follows through…..

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:33:29pm

re: #362 Lidane

Eric Bolling is a shameless whore:

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Is he comparing Trump to Christ because that may somehow look worse saying that Romney would have given Donald a blowie.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:33:50pm

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel

Smith & Wesson Lifts Outlook, Production Plans Amid Demand Surge

IT never ends. The cycle of fear.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:34:33pm

re: #363 Shiplord Kirel

The rule of the gun market: Buy under Republicans, sell under Democrats.

They are rubbing their hands together with dollar signs for eyes at the Everest-high pile of arms they’ll sell to the rubes between now and year’s end.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:35:59pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Is he comparing Trump to Christ because that may somehow look worse saying that Romney would have given Donald a blowie.

I did not expect to see such an explicit confirmation of Trump supporters seeing Trump as being at least a demigod.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:36:01pm

re: #232 majii

I have no doubt that most in the GOP/TP have been aware of the racism in the party for a very long time. I think the reason they didn’t speak out against it before now is because they fear the backlash from the far right members in the party. These rank-and filers suffer from the same cowardice as their politicians who have also known about the rampant racism, homophobia, and misogyny that infests the party. I find it ironic and amusing that Ryan and others have “found” their courage only when Trump is threatening their chance to win the WH in November. As a POC, this says to me that they don’t give a damn if others are mistreated. They’re rank opportunists with a strong self-interest.

The racism is a feature, not a bug. They are aware of it because they cultivated it with dog whistling about welfare queens and affirmative action and Willie Horton, etc. They are speaking out now because Trump is breaking the rules and using a bullhorn instead of a dog whistle.

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lawhawk  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:36:19pm
The Modern GOP in action.
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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:36:31pm

re: #362 Lidane

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:36:40pm

re: #369 EPR-radar

I did not expect to see such an explicit confirmation of Trump supporters seeing Trump as being at least a demigod.

Neither did I but I guess the people n FNC has received Rupert and Roger’s marching orders.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:36:45pm
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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:37:20pm

re: #365 Decatur Deb

I see it as a Darwin mini-award. A person with a functioning brain should understand possible consequences of such actions.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:37:30pm

re: #371 lawhawk

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Chachi doesn’t love Mitt. What campaign were these people watching in 2012? Mitt did go after Obama. He was very nasty and condescending I thought in fact.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:37:38pm

re: #41 Testy Toad T

I dunno if it’s just me, but it feels like the whirlwind of GOP derp has accelerated pretty amazingly over the last week.

What did the establishment expect to happen on Super Tuesday, exactly?

The media got interested because Trump said he’d get the 1st Amendment changed so he could sue them. Racism, bigotry, future war crimes they could just ignore because it’s all just good fun, but this is serious.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:38:11pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:38:32pm

re: #290 Big Beautiful Door

No, I don’t. Not that Collins would accept, or that Hillary will offer. Clinton needs a minority VP, someone like Julian Castro or Corey Booker.

Castro. That’s got my vote…if one could vote for Veep.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:38:59pm

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:39:26pm

re: #379 MsJ

Castro. That’s got my vote…if one could vote for Veep.

My first choice too. I think he’s likable, qualified, and could be a great asset. And from what I’ve seen so far I think the Clinton campaign agrees.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:39:54pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:39:57pm

re: #375 Nyet

I see it as a Darwin mini-award. A person with a functioning brain should understand possible consequences of such actions.

I’m just guessing about the details of the case, but the Infallible Intertubes make it look like deportation was the kinder, gentler option.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:41:11pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

NO problem. I didn’t take it as an insult. I’m like that, easy-going. )

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calochortus  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:41:58pm

BBL

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:42:17pm

re: #340 De Kolta Chair

Obama’s been doing good enough that I am beginning to waver on supporting the 22nd Amendment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:43:09pm

re: #262 Kragar

I think CA should have an earlier primary because FUCK IOWA.

The problem with that is that California is the size of a real country. the advantage of a small state like Iowa is that it gives candidates the opportunity to compete without having a lot of money to spend. the disadvantage of Iowa and New Hampshire is that they are lilly white states which aren’t very representative of the nation as a whole. Other small states which are more diverse should get the chance to go first.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:43:58pm

re: #387 Big Beautiful Door

I’m standing by my FUCK IOWA platform.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:44:03pm

re: #386 Ziggy_TARDIS

Obama’s been doing good enough that I am beginning to waver on supporting the 22nd Amendment.

I think term limiting the president makes sense. It is a very powerful office and the incumbent has many ways to use that power to win reelection.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:44:12pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

Yep & Megyn Kelly is one of the mods.

I wonder if Ailes has told her to be nice to Trump?

“If he says to get down on your knees, you do it! He’s our guy, so don’t piss him off again.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:45:00pm

re: #271 Belafon

Except for the part where he has the right to free speech, or, as the constitution puts it “Congress shall pass no law abridging the right to free speech.” That’s the rub. They cannot punish him for speech that is not meant to incite.

Well they can punish him for threatening to assassinate a US presidential candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:45:15pm

re: #386 Ziggy_TARDIS

Obama’s been doing good enough that I am beginning to waver on supporting the 22nd Amendment.

Well he may want to go too. Honestly I’ve never been that fond of the 22nd since it was implemented based on Republican jealously of FDR’s popularity but at the same time I do like the precedent Washington set though OTOH if we had it in the years leading up to WWII, I shiver at the thought of a President John Nance Garner or President Wendell Willkie handling that as well as FDR did.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:46:33pm

re: #388 Kragar

I’m standing by my FUCK IOWA platform.

Front loading California is not reasonable, but we shouldn’t have the same two states always be where the early campaigning is.

What I’d like to see the Democrats is set up a schedule where small and representative states come early in the cycle, with each such state having its turn as first to vote.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:46:39pm

re: #279 Stanley Sea

I’m definitely going to protest a Trump rally when he’s out here.

Be careful, it is literally dangerous as the mood at Trump rallies gets uglier.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:46:50pm
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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:46:54pm

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Which is funny because the guy advocating this is one of the most lefty people I know. Honestly, I’d prefer some more diverse states than Iowa and New Hampshire but as you guys have gotten at, the other side isn’t an optimal solution either.

If Nevada went to a primary instead of a caucus it wouldn’t be a bad choice. The problem is that the more diverse states tend to be the bigger states with multiple media markets. It’s damn hard to run a campaign in those states without already having a large donor base established, or a very large bank account and plenty of cash on hand.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:47:06pm

re: #394 Big Beautiful Door

Be careful, it is literally dangerous as the mood at Trump rallies gets uglier.

Esp. as he has lots of neo-Nazi fanboys.

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majii  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:47:08pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

I think Castro is better because Booker left a bad taste in the mouths of many of us blacks when he indicated solidarity with GOP/TPers on the P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran. Bad move on his part because we rarely forget a move like that and consider it a diss of the president.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:47:17pm

re: #384 majii

NO problem. I didn’t take it as an insult. I’m like that, easy-going. )

Yep. I just wonder if these folks listen to themselves. African-Americans are seeing the same ads, reading the same stories, etc about the two candidates. I believe I read that Bernie spent a ton in SC and he still got demolished.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:47:24pm

re: #359 BeachDem

All I can say is UGH/

No to the millionth. We do not need a Republican vice president—I think that would a terrible idea.

If a GOPer were Veep, Alex Jones would be on target saying Clinton was murdered because that would then put a GOPer in as POTUS and I do not think some people would hesitate.

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Kragar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:47:42pm

re: #393 EPR-radar

I’m willing to concede on CA as long as the fundamental point of FUCK IOWA is adhered to.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:48:23pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

Yep. I just wonder if these folks listen to themselves. African-Americans are seeing the same ads, reading the same stories, etc about the two candidates. I believe I read that Bernie spent a ton in SC and he still got demolished.

I still think Bernie’s efforts in SC were a net negative to his final result there. Those were some ridiculous margins.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:48:28pm

re: #387 Big Beautiful Door

The problem with that is that California is the size of a real country. the advantage of a small state like Iowa is that it gives candidates the opportunity to compete without having a lot of money to spend. the disadvantage of Iowa and New Hampshire is that they are lilly white states which aren’t very representative of the nation as a whole. Other small states which are more diverse should get the chance to go first.

How about a National Primary Week, executed under a set of uniform rules?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:48:52pm

re: #396 KGxvi

If Nevada went to a primary instead of a caucus it wouldn’t be a bad choice. The problem is that the more diverse states tend to be the bigger states with multiple media markets. It’s damn hard to run a campaign in those states without already having a large donor base established, or a very large bank account and plenty of cash on hand.

Good points. I guess Iowa and NH are kind of the best of a bad situation. it’s a good thing though that NV which I agree with you should be a primary and South Caorlina come close after them though.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:49:40pm

re: #402 EPR-radar

I still think Bernie’s efforts in SC were a net negative to his final result there. Those were some ridiculous margins.

I think so too but Bernie definitely didn’t lose there for a lack of the people of that state knowing him which is why Mrs. Sanders I think very foolishly claimed.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:50:12pm

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Well he may want to go too. Honestly I’ve never been that fond of the 22nd since it was implemented based on Republican jealously of FDR’s popularity but at the same time I do like the precedent Washington set though OTOH if we had it in the years leading up to WWII, I shiver at the thought of a President John Nance Garner or President Wendell Willkie handling that as well as FDR did.

I had a professor in undergrad who said that the 22nd Amendment was aiming for Roosevelt, missed Truman, and hit Eisenhower. I wonder how different things would have been had the 22nd not passed? I’m not sure Eisenhower would have run again in 1960, Reagan probably doesn’t run in 1988, maybe Clinton does in 2000? At which point who knows what our politics looks like.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:51:32pm

I’ve seen it suggested that Rhode Island is actually a good choice for an early primary. Relatively diverse, small, cheap media markets.

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:53:11pm

re: #145 Whack-A-Mole

Just spitballing here off a random thought:

Assuming Trump wins the GOP nomination, do you think Hillary inviting someone like Susan Collins on the ticket as VP would draw enough on-the-fence voters away from Trump top be worth the risk of the pick?

A great way to make lots of Dems stay home.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:53:20pm

re: #406 KGxvi

I had a professor in undergrad who said that the 22nd Amendment was aiming for Roosevelt, missed Truman, and hit Eisenhower. I wonder how different things would have been had the 22nd not passed? I’m not sure Eisenhower would have run again in 1960, Reagan probably doesn’t run in 1988, maybe Clinton does in 2000? At which point who knows what our politics looks like.

I don’t think Eisenhower runs again in 1960 because of his health troubles. I do agree that Reagan and Clinton would have run and certainly won third terms. I have to wonder about Reagan handling the Desert Storm coalition or Clinton 9/11 should each of these events occur in an alternate universe. What a lot of people don’t know is that FDR and TR were not the first presidents to seek a third term. Grant attempted a comeback in 1880 and failed.

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Cheechako  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:53:45pm

Question I have is: Will the DNC, after the election, change their rules to require that only registered Democrats will be supported and sponsored in the Democrat primaries?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:54:18pm

re: #409 HappyWarrior

I can’t imagine putting a half-gone drooling Reagan on the stump in ‘88 would have gone as well as you think.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:54:21pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I think so too but Bernie definitely didn’t lose there for a lack of the people of that state knowing him which is why Mrs. Sanders I think very foolishly claimed.

That would be the fundamental tone-deafness of the Sanders campaign in action once again. It irritates the hell out of me, and I’m white. I can’t imagine I’d like it any better if I were black.

Even if you are absolutely convinced your message is 100% correct (and nobody is this good anyway), the proper response to a bunch of people you think ought to see things your way but aren’t is not to repeat everything verbatim LOUDER AND SLOWER as if they are idiots.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:54:35pm

re: #410 Cheechako

Question I have is: Will the DNC, after the election, change their rules to require that only registered Democrats will be supported and sponsored in the Democrat primaries?

Wouldn’t that mean all the states would have to change from open to closed primaries? I don’t think they should do that and I don’t think they will.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:55:30pm

re: #320 Stanley Sea

I think I was thinking of Hemet & came up with Jamul. Ya, too close to the border for Drumpf.

I was just setting up meetings in Hemet. I don’t think anyone actually showed up. (Not an important thing to comment on, but how many people have even heard of Hemet?)

I think he’d choose San Bernardino so he could talk some trash about gun free zones, terrorists, and walls.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:55:37pm

re: #411 Testy Toad T

I can’t imagine putting a half-gone drooling Reagan on the stump in ‘88 would have gone as well as you think.

Yeah that’s true. I did forget that Dukakis actually briefly did lead in the polls. I don’t know. I didn’t live 1988. Well I did but I was shitting myself more than Ronnie was in thoe days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:55:48pm

re: #371 lawhawk

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Mitt did exactly that, Scott.
The majority of us decided to vote for the adult instead of Mitt.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:56:41pm

re: #411 Testy Toad T

I can’t imagine putting a half-gone drooling Reagan on the stump in ‘88 would have gone as well as you think.

I think it could have gone either way. Many people then were thoroughly convinced to vote Republican because of the apparent failures of the Carter years.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:56:53pm

And now your moment of There Is No God:

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:57:18pm

re: #347 HappyWarrior

I’ll be honest, I’m not too fond of forced term limits. That said, I think Obama’s looking forward to retirement.

What cooler job is there than ex-president?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:57:42pm

re: #419 Big Beautiful Door

What cooler job is there than ex-president?

Ambassador to Tahiti sounds pretty nice.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:58:13pm

re: #419 Big Beautiful Door

What cooler job is there than ex-president?

Ask Benedict XVI.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:59:06pm

re: #421 Decatur Deb

Ask Benedict XVI.

That one’s true. He gets the ex Pope benefit at all the pancake and fish houses.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:59:15pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t that mean all the states would have to change from open to closed primaries? I don’t think they should do that and I don’t think they will.

Closed primaries is one of the very few things I agree with conservative partisans on. It makes no sense at all to have open primaries where people with no connection to the party at all get to cast meaningful votes on who should be the party’s candidate.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:59:38pm

re: #330 Decatur Deb

Anyone else notice that the broad run of HRC online photos are much more flattering for the last couple days? Talking advertisements and news shots. Photos used seem better lit, focused, and selected to avoid goofy/hag expressions.

I’ve noticed that the photo in the “Should Hillary go to prison” ad is one of the prettiest I’ve seen of her.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 3:59:55pm

re: #422 HappyWarrior

That one’s true. He gets the ex Pope benefit at all the pancake and fish houses.

Cuts in line at the confessional.

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urbanmeemaw  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:00:08pm

re: #169 Nyet

Sign in front of Vet Hospital said, “Dogs Have Owners. Cats Have Staff”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:00:16pm

re: #423 EPR-radar

Closed primaries is one of the very few things I agree with conservative partisans on. It makes no sense at all to have open primaries where people with no connection to the party at all get to cast meaningful votes on who should be the party’s candidate.

I’ll have to give it more thought. I do understand a little of that though since a closed primary lessens the possibility of rat fucking.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:00:55pm

re: #425 Decatur Deb

Cuts in line at the confessional.

Yeah. The communion wafer discounts and having your own wine label is pretty nice too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:01:33pm

re: #358 EPR-radar

Jumping Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. It’s a good thing I don’t comment there, because I would be most unkind to those supposedly on my side who spout this level of idiocy.

Emailgate is a big fat nothing burger, just like countless other GOP manufactured scandals about the Clintons.

What’s next for these meatheads? Revisiting the Vince Foster case?

Yes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:02:53pm

re: #362 Lidane

Eric Bolling is a shameless whore:

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So Trump is saying he is God. And that’s better.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:03:02pm

re: #428 HappyWarrior

Yeah. The communion wafer discounts and having your own wine label is pretty nice too.

You’re Pgh Slovenian, no? Did you have a Christmas Eve ceremonial meal that involved large sheets of uncut wafer, layered w/ honey?

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:03:08pm

Can’t quite say why exactly, but this is cool news

Update: my nephew tells me Ms. Ridley has a very nice singing voice

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:03:16pm

re: #359 BeachDem

All I can say is UGH/

No to the millionth. We do not need a Republican vice president—I think that would a terrible idea.

Just like what happened with McCain in 2008 when he wanted Lieberman and the party shut it down, there’s no way the DNC would go for it.

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Cheechako  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:04:52pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t that mean all the states would have to change from open to closed primaries? I don’t think they should do that and I don’t think they will.

No, I’m just asking if the Democrats should require any candidate running in a Democratic primary be a Democrat. I think a party primary should be closed to party members only. If you’re not willing to be a member of the party why should you be allowed to assist in selecting that party’s candidate?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:05:03pm

re: #431 Decatur Deb

You’re Pgh Slovenian, no? Did you have a Christmas Eve ceremonial meal that involved large sheets of uncut wafer, layered w/ honey?

Johnstown Slovenian. Cambrian cousins. Nah, the only Slovenian food I’ve ever had is Potica. That does sound good though.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:05:17pm

re: #434 Cheechako

No, I’m just asking if the Democrats sould require any candidate running in a Democratic primary be a Democrat. I think a party primary should be closed to party members only. If you’re not willing to be a member of the party why should you be allowed to assist in selecting that party’s candidate?

Ohhh that. Not a bad idea honestly.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:06:46pm

re: #371 lawhawk

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:07:40pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t that mean all the states would have to change from open to closed primaries? I don’t think they should do that and I don’t think they will.

I’m reading this as “the DNC no longer supports Sanders by making sure no Dems run against him in Vermont if he doesn’t maintain his ties to the Democratic party,” not anything to do with the primaries.

For the record, as an independent, I prefer the open primaries. I got my ballot request form for the primary here in CA and plan to submit it to request the Democrat one. It’s a matter of personal preference to maintain the division between my registration and my voting preference.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:09:14pm

re: #423 EPR-radar

Closed primaries is one of the very few things I agree with conservative partisans on. It makes no sense at all to have open primaries where people with no connection to the party at all get to cast meaningful votes on who should be the party’s candidate.

There is an argument in political science that a person who votes in a primary is more likely to vote for that party’s nominee in the general election. That’s the idea behind letting independents vote in primaries. Here in California we’ve done away with partisan primaries for everything but president (and there’s yet another attempt to swing at that). Everyone is on the primary ballot regardless of party, top two go to the general election.

As to the rat fucking issue, for it to ever actually play a role, it would have to be Florida 2000 close.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:09:38pm

re: #386 Ziggy_TARDIS

Obama’s been doing good enough that I am beginning to waver on supporting the 22nd Amendment.

Look at it this way. Without the 22nd Amendment, we’d be on Zombie Reagan’s 9th term now.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:10:55pm

re: #437 Skip Intro

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:12:08pm

re: #439 KGxvi

There is an argument in political science that a person who votes in a primary is more likely to vote for that party’s nominee in the general election. That’s the idea behind letting independents vote in primaries. Here in California we’ve done away with partisan primaries for everything but president (and there’s yet another attempt to swing at that). Everyone is on the primary ballot regardless of party, top two go to the general election.

As to the rat fucking issue, for it to ever actually play a role, it would have to be Florida 2000 close.

It also helps people who would otherwise have to register to have an opinion on the local races (because of one party dominance) but would still like to be able to support the party they actually prefer in the presidential race.

I mean, I imagine that Backwoods Sleuth would love to be able to have a voice in the Democrat primary, for example, and yet because of wanting a voice in local politics, she can’t.

I like CA’s system a lot better.

(Republicans still throw their hissy fit and don’t allow independents to request a ballot for the Presidential race, but it mostly just makes them look like assholes.)

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:12:16pm

re: #410 Cheechako

Question I have is: Will the DNC, after the election, change their rules to require that only registered Democrats will be supported and sponsored in the Democrat primaries?

Maybe, but only if they manage to fire Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:12:21pm

As an antidote to the DKOS derp posted above, we have this: dailykos.com

It looks to be a solid reality based analysis of what is going on with Sanders and the black vote.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:14:13pm

re: #444 EPR-radar

As an antidote to the DKOS derp posted above, we have this: dailykos.com

It looks to be a solid reality based analysis of what is going on with Sanders and the black vote.

Looks interesting, thanks. That awful headline though…

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:16:17pm

re: #442 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our system in California is definitely an outlier (and a remnant of the progressive era) - completely nonpartisan elections at the local level, meaning no R’s or D’s for city council, mayor, or county wide positions - and now blanket primaries for everything from Assembly through the Governorship. The only traditional partisan primary we have anymore is the presidential primary. I’m probably going to ask for a Libertarian ballot in the primary, since I am guessing that Clinton will have secured the nomination by then.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:17:26pm
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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:17:51pm

re: #402 EPR-radar

I still think Bernie’s efforts in SC were a net negative to his final result there. Those were some ridiculous margins.

That’s because people like my “campaign kid” worked their asses off for Hillary. They not only worked hard, they worked smart—they knew who to call and what to say and they did it week in, week out.

Bernie had a lot of peeps on the ground (and, as I’ve mentioned before—they paid their “volunteers” if they worked more than 20 hours a week. So, depending on which story they were pushing, sometimes they called them paid staff and sometimes volunteers), but they really weren’t as effective or well-organized.

That why early on, when people were saying Hillary was taking everything for granted and expecting a coronation, I cried BULLSHIT. She carried one county in SC in 2008 and took all of them this time.

BTW, my campaign kid is gone—already working up in North Carolina. Sniff.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:18:24pm

re: #446 KGxvi

Our system in California is definitely an outlier (and a remnant of the progressive era) - completely nonpartisan elections at the local level, meaning no R’s or D’s for city council, mayor, or county wide positions - and now blanket primaries for everything from Assembly through the Governorship. The only traditional partisan primary we have anymore is the presidential primary. I’m probably going to ask for a Libertarian ballot in the primary, since I am guessing that Clinton will have secured the nomination by then.

My guess is that mr. klys would actually prefer the Libertarian ballot, but since he’s registered Republican that’s what he’ll get stuck with.

He keeps talking about changing it, but we’ve both been lazy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:21:11pm

re: #403 Decatur Deb

How about a National Primary Week, executed under a set of uniform rules?

Same problem as California. Only someone who already has a huge amount of money could effectively carry off a national campaign.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:24:28pm

re: #450 Big Beautiful Door

Same problem as California. Only someone who already has a huge amount of money could effectively carry off a national campaign.

The Paupers’ Party wouldn’t like that.

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SpaceJesus  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:25:19pm

The GOP establishment is sinking pretty low in their desperation

nationalreview.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:26:43pm

re: #423 EPR-radar

Closed primaries is one of the very few things I agree with conservative partisans on. It makes no sense at all to have open primaries where people with no connection to the party at all get to cast meaningful votes on who should be the party’s candidate.

It gives a chance to give a voice to independents the candidate will need to win in the general instead of just hard core party activists.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:27:28pm

re: #410 Cheechako

Question I have is: Will the DNC, after the election, change their rules to require that only registered Democrats will be supported and sponsored in the Democrat primaries?

Depends

Are we talking candidates or voters?

If candidates, then yes. You are either a registered (D) or you don’t run on the (D) ticket. Same goes for the (R)s. As for the Independents (I), if your position is so damn strong, then run on it instead of hanging off the coattails of an established party.

Bernie is an independent (Democratic Socialist) running under the Democratic name because he knows he has no other option. DWS should have booted him right from the start, but didn’t because he caucus’s with the (D)’s.

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KGxvi  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:28:00pm

re: #449 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My guess is that mr. klys would actually prefer the Libertarian ballot, but since he’s registered Republican that’s what he’ll get stuck with.

He keeps talking about changing it, but we’ve both been lazy.

I didn’t change my registration until I moved a couple years. And given that it’s pretty clear that Clinton is going to win California by 20+ points, I’ll probably be voting for Johnson in the general election as well.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:33:12pm

I have resolved the chocolate situation that I experienced last night. Chocolate baking chips, sucked on one at a time. It took 5 chips to satisfy the craving.

Of course they would taste better inside a cookie but I did manage to avoid that.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:33:24pm

re: #454 Bubblehead II

Depends

Are we talking candidates or voters?

If candidates, then yes. You are either a registered (D) or you don’t run on the (D) ticket. Same goes for the (R)s. As for the Independents (I), if your position is so damn strong, then run on it instead of hanging off the coattails of an established party.

Bernie is an independent (Democratic Socialist) running under the Democratic name because he knows he has no other option. DWS should have booted him right from the start, but didn’t because he caucus’s with the (D)’s.

I do wish there were more stringent requirements to running for office on a party ticket. Remember, here in south by dog carolina, we ended up with Alvin Greene as a candidate—and that same year, had an even more ridiculous loser running for a House seat.

The only good thing Trump mania has brought to us this year is that a few of the worst loons, who have run as Democrats previously, are now vocal (obnoxious) Trump supporters, so I think we would be able to disqualify them from running as Dems in the future.

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Cheechako  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:33:31pm

It’s been a very low snow year in much of Alaska.

Video: Alaska Railroad delivers snow for Iditarod start in Anchorage

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:33:49pm

re: #452 SpaceJesus

The GOP establishment is sinking pretty low in their desperation

nationalreview.com

I wonder if I’ll ever come across one of these pieces that doesn’t have “Ronald Reagan” in the first sentence?

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Nyet  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:34:07pm

re: #444 EPR-radar

One of the best things I read at dkos.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:35:06pm

re: #453 Big Beautiful Door

It gives a chance to give a voice to independents the candidate will need to win in the general instead of just hard core party activists.

How much of a hard core activist do you have to be to fill out a party registration form and vote in a closed primary? That’s really pretty minimal.

I think your point is a valid criticism of caucuses, since those really are for those who have the time and energy to spare for a lengthy political exercise.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:36:41pm

re: #455 KGxvi

I didn’t change my registration until I moved a couple years. And given that it’s pretty clear that Clinton is going to win California by 20+ points, I’ll probably be voting for Johnson in the general election as well.

The popular vote margin in the general election helps create and sustain a narrative of support that can translate to political capital for an administration. People certain their vote doesn’t matter because they live in a solid red or blue state often forget that. It’s how much of our political dysfunction perpetuates itself in my opinion.

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EPR-radar  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:36:52pm

re: #460 Nyet

One of the best things I read at dkos.

That diary is so good that the comments are mostly useful as well.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:40:45pm

re: #462 goddamnedfrank

The popular vote margin in the general election helps create and sustain a narrative of support that can translate to political capital for an administration. People certain their vote doesn’t matter because they live in a solid red or blue state often forget that. It’s how much of our political dysfunction perpetuates itself in my opinion.

Please repost this in the new thread. I agree 100% and try to make that point every chance I get.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:40:52pm

re: #444 EPR-radar

As an antidote to the DKOS derp posted above, we have this: dailykos.com

It looks to be a solid reality based analysis of what is going on with Sanders and the black vote.

Excellent diary. tks

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:41:17pm

re: #458 Cheechako

It’s been a very low snow year in much of Alaska.

Video: Alaska Railroad delivers snow for Iditarod start in Anchorage

Shared this yesterday. According to the story there is at least snow on the ground on the rest of the course. Problem right now is just the ceremonial start in Anchorage. Though they are worried about what higher than normal temps will do over the course of the race.
Was much worse last year

Luckily, there’s snow on the ground. That wasn’t the case last year and organizers were forced to move the restart location to Fairbanks and reroute some 600 miles of the race because there wasn’t enough powder on the historic trail.

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Cheechako  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:42:20pm

re: #454 Bubblehead II

Depends

Are we talking candidates or voters?

I’m suggesting both. Why should I be able to go to my wife’s Quilting Club, go in and vote for the Club’s President? I don’t belong to the Club therefore I don’t pay any membership fees or have any vested interest in the club and most of all, I’m not a quilter.

P.S. My wife DOES NOT want to be club President!!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:42:21pm

re: #448 BeachDem

That’s because people like my “campaign kid” worked their asses off for Hillary. They not only worked hard, they worked smart—they knew who to call and what to say and they did it week in, week out.

Bernie had a lot of peeps on the ground (and, as I’ve mentioned before—they paid their “volunteers” if they worked more than 20 hours a week. So, depending on which story they were pushing, sometimes they called them paid staff and sometimes volunteers), but they really weren’t as effective or well-organized.

That why early on, when people were saying Hillary was taking everything for granted and expecting a coronation, I cried BULLSHIT. She carried one county in SC in 2008 and took all of them this time.

BTW, my campaign kid is gone—already working up in North Carolina. Sniff.

Did you find anything, er interesting in the room?

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PeterWolf  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:48:29pm

I’m not sure anyone noticed, but Trump said a very ironic thing. He said he’s not an Obama fan, and a little later talks about Mitt’s failure and how Mitt (during his campaign) was saying that Trump is a big successful businessman. Whereas now Trump said Mitt is calling him a failure as a businessman. And then Trump says the ironic thing, I’ve done even better since then. That is, Trump saying that he has prospered under the Obama administration. I had to giggle.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:58:01pm

re: #467 Cheechako

Under my guidelines, you would never be considered. You don’t belong. The same thing the DNC should have done with Berine

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Bubblehead II  Mar 3, 2016 • 4:59:10pm

Night Lizards.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2016 • 5:09:42pm

re: #468 Stanley Sea

Did you find anything, er interesting in the room?

Haven’t delved (or cleaned) too deeply yet. I’m probably more likely to find empty water bottles and notepads than anything, er interesting!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 3, 2016 • 9:52:38pm

re: #124 Dr. Matt

Awful.

[Embedded content]

He’s had that up ever since National Abortion Federation served him with a subpoena. Tasteless, but that’s our Chuckie.

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GrantS  Mar 3, 2016 • 11:57:37pm

Romney believes Clinton will be president anyways, but knows that a Trump nomination will have pushed the republican party into farcical territory. Trump is pushing the party past the point-of-no-return line. Romney is just trying to save the party from itself. It’s an admirable attempt from a gop elder, and an important step away from absurdity and extremism seen in the party. Romney is attempting to bring civility back to the gop.
I just think the attempt is futile. The gop Trump voters (a.k.a -the teaparty’s true face) want two revenges: one for being lied to by their own party and the second for not stopping Obama as their leaders promised. It’s a split party with some being xenophobic haters feeling duped, and those remaining who still believe in the system.


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