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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:10:52pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:12:57pm

Already super-sketch snowpack in the inner mountain west, it’s not even Christmas yet.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:13:08pm

Meanwhile, in NC, where Republicans are really showing their asses:

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:17:27pm

re: #3 BeachDem

Meanwhile, in NC, where Republicans are really showing their asses:

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I sure hope this is all unconstitutional!

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:20:39pm
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wheat-dogg  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:21:02pm

re: #4 retired cynic

I sure hope this is all unconstitutional!

Remember when the RWNJs predicted Obama was going to declare a national emergency and take control of the USA any day now? More projection, as usual.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:23:56pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Remember when the RWNJs predicted Obama was going to declare a national emergency and take control of the USA any day now? More projection, as usual.

But now… I’d really like it.

Sadly, all he has is access to microphones and a few more weeks of ability to declassify anything he wants to.

If he chooses to make best use of those microphones, it’s worth noting that as of today, Obama’s approval rating is 59%, Trump’s approval rating is 41%. (good odds that the venn diagram of the people who approve… is two circles with a wide space between them).

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:24:17pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Remember when the RWNJs predicted Obama was going to declare a national emergency and take control of the USA any day now? More projection, as usual.

He may have to, yet!

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:26:12pm

re: #3 BeachDem

Meanwhile, in NC, where Republicans are really showing their asses:

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And all the “serious” conservatives will insist that this is not a naked and blatant 11th hour power grab, but the legislature “taking back” power that the executive branch had taken from it.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:27:13pm

Monday’s EC vote will be critical, no matter how it turns out. Me, I’m expecting no big surprises. That way, I won’t be disappointed when the results come in.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:27:15pm

re: #4 retired cynic

I sure hope this is all unconstitutional!

Talking about the bill that changes the election boards (Rep chairs in even numbered years/Dems in odd numbered—of course, all the elections are in even numbered years)

Shenanigans Alert: NC GOP-Led Legislature Calls 2d Special Session, Considers Bill to Change Power over Election Rules
If the bill passes in this form, I could see potential Voting Rights Act and federal constitutional challenges here, in part because the legislature would potentially be diluting minority voting power and making minority voters worse off, just at the time that their candidate of choice (Gov. Cooper) is poised to assume power.

electionlawblog.org

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:27:22pm

Meh…. Doughy Pantload departs.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:28:18pm

re: #12 Dave In Austin

Meh…. Doughy Pantload departs.

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As if I care.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:29:18pm

re: #12 Dave In Austin

He’s come around to Trump being president. He’ll be Editor-At-Large at Breitbart “News” next year.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:31:41pm

“Elections have consequences! Respect the people’s choice in electing Trump!”

“A Democrat won the gubernatorial race in NC.”

“We don’t recognize that victory, we think there was electoral shenanigans and his victory is invalid! So we must take as much power from his office as we can to ensure that he cannot do any damage before the next Republican takes office!”

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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:33:13pm

What a brilliant songwriter.

By the way, there is a group of people who are showing up at the Texas Capitol on Monday who will be carrying signs saying “Treasons Greetings” for the electors.

Don’t know if it will have any affect, but it is part of the Counterforce that is establishing itself in the the US.

Never give up, never give in.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:34:04pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:34:25pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Remember when the RWNJs predicted Obama was going to declare a national emergency and take control of the USA any day now? More projection, as usual.

Wheat-Dogg, I got relatives still uttering that bullshit…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:39:42pm

re: #18 Joe Bacon

Wheat-Dogg, I got relatives still uttering that bullshit…

To be fair, he’s still got about a month left. Anything could happen!

Me, I’m waiting for the encrypted email telling me which FEMA re-education camp I get to be warden of.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:40:53pm

re: #11 BeachDem

If this goes through, Cooper should start campaigning hard in every district to unseat the Repugnant incumbent. He won’t have much else to do.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:51:08pm

A little more on SC Rep Jim Merrill (indicted on 30 counts and suspended from office)

What a difference a month makes:

November 10:
Those working closely with the Trump transition team say Lt. Gov. Henry McMaster, state Rep. Jim Merrill and Columbia real estate developer Bill Stern are in the best position among Trump’s many Palmetto State backers to be offered to work for him in Washington, D.C.

postandcourier.com

Today:
After more than two years of speculation, there was finally another indictment this week in the ongoing investigation into alleged public corruption at the S.C. State House.

S.C. Rep. Jimmy Merrill - whose name has been bandied about for over a year in connection with this probe - was indicted on twenty-eight counts of violating the state’s ethics laws and two counts of misconduct in office.

fitsnews.com

So the guy was under suspicion BEFORE he became a Trump guy.

And rumor is that there are many more to fall. Strangely, he’s being indicted for the same crap Nikki Haley was doing a couple of years ago—she got “cleared” by the House ethics committee, and now is about the be our UN Ambassador.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:51:29pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:55:54pm

re: #22 sagehen

WE’RE DRAINING THE SWAMP, THERE IS NO CORRUPTION, BELIEVE ME. IT’S BIG AND BEAUTIFUL AND WE’LL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, BIGLY.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2016 • 9:57:12pm

Sure, they’re draining the swamp and filling it back up with oil and sewage.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:02:23pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:03:28pm

If any of you follow me on twitter, this is redundant.

But

RECTIFY is/was the best drama I’ve seen.

Sundance TV.

FYI. I’m rewatching now. So powerful & takes me away. (key)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:04:32pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

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They were DISGUSTED by grab em by the pussy.

Then power intervened.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:05:21pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

They were DISGUSTED by grab em by the pussy.

Then power intervened.

You know what they say about power being an aphrodisiac!

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:09:19pm

re: #28 retired cynic

You know what they say about power being an aphrodisiac!

Gettin’ ready for the porn scene …
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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:09:46pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

snork!!!

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BigPapa  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:11:16pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Sure, they’re draining the swamp and filling it back up with oil and sewage.

I thought we drained the swamp so we can frack it. But at this point I’m just, like, everything smells like a fucking swamp. Not in a good way.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:13:28pm

Speaking of Rick Perry, he was all aboard the Trump Trainwreck as soon as he won the primaries.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:15:01pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Speaking of Rick Perry, he was all aboard the Trump Trainwreck as soon as he won the primaries.

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That didn’t happen.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:17:00pm

re: #33 retired cynic

That didn’t happen.

Oh, but it did.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:18:43pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

Oh, but it did.

No, I meant Trump didn’t peel her skin off in a debate. Nowhere near!

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:21:11pm

re: #35 retired cynic

No, I meant Trump didn’t peel her skin off in a debate. Nowhere near!

As usual, I’m not clear!

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:22:33pm

re: #35 retired cynic

No, I meant Trump didn’t peel her skin off in a debate. Nowhere near!

Ah, I see! You are correct.

Still, look where we are. Nearly three million vote margin with the popular vote. Unprecedented. Keep in mind Trump did rallies which were broadcast on cable news non stop, some TV commercials of his own here and there, showed up to the debates and made a fool of himself every time, and … that’s it. That was his campaign. And he won with our system in place. It wracks my brain to no end these days.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:29:20pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Ah, I see! You are correct.

Still, look where we are. Nearly three million vote margin with the popular vote. Unprecedented. Keep in mind Trump did rallies which were broadcast on cable news non stop, some TV commercials of his own here and there, showed up to the debates and made a fool of himself every time, and … that’s it. That was his campaign and he won with our system in place. It’ wracks my brain to no end these days.

Comey. The Russians.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:30:55pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Ah, I see! You are correct.

Still, look where we are. Nearly three million vote margin with the popular vote. Unprecedented. Keep in mind Trump did rallies which were broadcast on cable news non stop, some TV commercials of his own here and there, showed up to the debates and made a fool of himself every time, and … that’s it. That was his campaign. And he won with our system in place. It wracks my brain to no end these days.

Right before our eyes. Everything bizarre is happening right before our eyes.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:59:29pm

After an almost-one-year absence from social media, Umphrey’s McGee bassist Ryan Stasik came back yesterday and it’s like he never left. Except his daughter, who’s getting big!

Instagram

Is this your card? Think about it before you answer because i have a knife. I’ll ask again, is this your card sir?

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2016 • 11:08:31pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Right before our eyes. Everything bizarre is happening right before our eyes.

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thecommodore  Dec 15, 2016 • 12:14:34am

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Monday’s EC vote will be critical, no matter how it turns out. Me, I’m expecting no big surprises. That way, I won’t be disappointed when the results come in.

Here’s to at least 38 Trump electors defecting to Clinton. And you might as well go out and buy a Megamillions ticket.

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 12:22:02am

re: #42 thecommodore

Here’s to at least 38 Trump electors defecting to Clinton. And you might as well go out and buy a Megamillions ticket.

They don’t even have to defect to Clinton. If they vote for a variety of other names, or their mother-in-law or their dog, that’s enough to deny Trump his 270 and it will go to the House.

The House would absolutely pick a Republican, I don’t doubt that. But they’ll pick a sane Republican; someone I’d certainly have major differences with on many policies, but they’ll be someone who has some government experience and knows How a Bill Becomes a Law. Someone who understands that foreign policy needs more careful consideration than a momentary whim. Someone who doesn’t have massive conflict-of-interest projects in a dozen countries we have Issues with. Someone who doesn’t need his children in the room for every important meeting to explain things to him. Someone who Putin doesn’t have compromising video of.

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Anymouse  Dec 15, 2016 • 12:35:08am

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Remember when the RWNJs predicted Obama was going to declare a national emergency and take control of the USA any day now? More projection, as usual.

The Republicans also promised us FEMA camps and taco trucks. They lied about those too.

I don’t know about the taco trucks, but I’ll bet they’d like to round up us “unpatriotic” liberals for not supporting Vladimir Putin Donald Trump sufficiently.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2016 • 12:48:21am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 15, 2016 • 1:13:00am

Here’s an interesting story about the market focus of Daesh Heavy Industries Inc from Jordan Times.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 1:24:36am

re: #44 Anymouse

The Republicans also promised us FEMA camps and taco trucks. They lied about those too.

I don’t know about the taco trucks, but I’ll bet they’d like to round up us “unpatriotic” liberals for not supporting Vladimir Putin Donald Trump sufficiently.

With Trump’s 41% approval rating (only to go down, down, down), that’s gonna be a bit tough.

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Apocalypse  Dec 15, 2016 • 1:26:20am

re: #43 sagehen

The House would absolutely pick a Republican, I don’t doubt that. But they’ll pick a sane Republican

You’re optimistic.
Sanity is relative I guess.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 1:34:01am

re: #48 Apocalypse

You’re optimistic.
Sanity is relative I guess.

Kasich is a fucking idiot (I should know; he’s my governor!) but you’d at least still have a functional republic that isn’t irreparably splintered into five different factions.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2016 • 1:47:11am

China appears to have installed weapons, including anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems, on all seven of the artificial islands it has built in the South China Sea, a U.S. think tank reported, citing new satellite imagery.

The Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative (AMTI) at the Center for Strategic and International Studies said its findings, made available first to Reuters on Wednesday, come despite statements by the Chinese leadership that Beijing has no intention to militarize the islands in the strategic trade route, where territory is claimed by several countries.

China said on Thursday that, while its construction on islands and reefs in the South China Sea was mainly for civilian use, it was “legitimate and normal” for it to take steps to defend its territory.

AMTI said it had been tracking construction of hexagonal structures on Fiery Cross, Mischief and Subi reefs in the Spratly Islands since June and July. China has already built military length airstrips on these islands.

“It now seems that these structures are an evolution of point-defense fortifications already constructed at China’s smaller facilities on Gaven, Hughes, Johnson, and Cuarteron reefs,” it said citing images taken in November.

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Alyosha  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:06:16am

Read the article.

Milo gives one of his fucked standup routines in defense of ‘freedom of speech’ at the University of Wilwaulkee, and singles out a transitioning trans-student for ridicule and sexual degradation. The Chancellor comes out with a weaksauce condemnation and the targeted student lets him have it with both barrels:

Chancellor Mark Mone

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

I am the trans student that was attacked and your email is nothing short of insulting. I wasn’t going to write this email at first, even after Milo attacked me, but then I saw your email and I’m SO FUCKING SICK of your goddamn lip service. Seriously go fuck yourself.

Your email? I don’t even know where to begin. Also, I don’t care if you feel “offended” or “harassed”. Welcome to my life. Sue me. I’d be more than happy to defend my free speech in court (since this is what you call it apparently) to lambast your ass for being an ungodly, fucking pathetic “ally.” And quite frankly I don’t care who the fuck reads this email (as you can tell by the CC) or what people think of me. I’m aware of where this email can end up. So be it. My “give a fuck card” was thrown out the window a long time ago. I’m going to write about you and YOUR fucked-up bullshit.

Seriously, read the whole email for yourself. It takes apart the Chancellor’s letter point by point and never relents. I cannot imagine being in that audience and being outed by name and with pictures as a ‘tranny’. So it’s good to read the words of someone who is righteously pissed and not prepared to knuckle under. Fuck these people for giving Milo a stage, fuck them for calling the police on those who assembled to protest and, most deservingly, FUCK Milo for his hateful bullshit dressed up in protected speech.

That fucker should be languishing in a dark cell for what he did.

Thanks.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:29:09am

Rage Furby, speaking through his sock puppet

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:36:40am

re: #52 wheat-dogg

Rage Furby, speaking through his sock puppet

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Should answer “last person i saw was rage furby johnson so you’re right!”

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:44:48am

re: #53 William Lewis

Should answer “last person i saw was rage furby johnson so you’re right!”

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:48:09am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 2:50:33am

re: #55 Dave In Austin

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Nice one

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 3:01:09am

NPR reports “Trump’s men” have already visited Russia to butter up politicians and businessmen there. npr.org

Dropping the sanctions against Russia for invading Ukraine — which during the campaign Trump said had never happened — are on the table.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 3:05:19am

re: #10 wheat-dogg

Monday’s EC vote will be critical, no matter how it turns out. Me, I’m expecting no big surprises. That way, I won’t be disappointed when the results come in.

I imagine there will be some unfaithful electors, but not enough to alter the outcome.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 3:37:23am

Breitbart calls Guardian’s factually based report on illegal immigration “fake news,” and the Guardian responds by fact-checking Breitbart.

theguardian.com

We’re going to see a lot of this BS from Trump and his acolytes — everything published must agree with whatever the Orange Shitgibbon last said, or it is “fake news.” And legitimate news organizations like The Guardian will be forced to support every single detail they report with citations to factual material to counteract the propaganda from the Trump White House.

And the people who voted for Trump will not be convinced, because they will only pay attention to the official narrative. The next best thing to a state-owned media.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2016 • 3:42:39am

Appeasement? No, active encouragement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 3:50:33am

re: #59 wheat-dogg

We’re going to see a lot of this BS from Trump and his acolytes — everything published must agree with whatever the Orange Shitgibbon last said, or it is “fake news.” And legitimate news organizations like The Guardian will be forced to support every single detail they report with citations to factual material to counteract the propaganda from the Trump White House.

And the people who voted for Trump will not be convinced, because they will only pay attention to the official narrative. The next best thing to a state-owned media.

The Gaslight Presidency.

And the Alternative Media Reality.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:08:58am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Gaslight Presidency.

And the Alternative Media Reality.

Orwell had no idea he wrote a how-to manual for the current administration, did he?

NPR also noted today that no president-elect since Carter has ever waited this long to hold a press conference. Yet, Trump has had plenty of time for photo-op meetings with a swarm of administration wannabes, celebrities, losers and tech magnates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:14:11am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Orwell had no idea he wrote a how-to manual for the current administration, did he?

NPR also noted today that no president-elect since Carter has ever waited this long to hold a press conference. Yet, Trump has had plenty of time for photo-op meetings with a swarm of administration wannabes, celebrities, losers and tech magnates.

…and the high-tech detention facility where overly inquisitive journalists are held in place - with magnates!!!

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:24:12am

I’m going to be a happy idiot, and struggle for the legal tender.

Jackson Browne - The Pretender

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:31:55am

re: #51 Alyosha

Read the article.

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Milo gives one of his fucked standup routines in defense of ‘freedom of speech’ at the University of Wilwaulkee, and singles out a transitioning trans-student for ridicule and sexual degradation. The Chancellor comes out with a weaksauce condemnation and the targeted student lets him have it with both barrels:

Seriously, read the whole email for yourself. It takes apart the Chancellor’s letter point by point and never relents. I cannot imagine being in that audience and being outed by name and with pictures as a ‘tranny’. So it’s good to read the words of someone who is righteously pissed and not prepared to knuckle under. Fuck these people for giving Milo a stage, fuck them for calling the police on those who assembled to protest and, most deservingly, FUCK Milo for his hateful bullshit dressed up in protected speech.

That fucker should be languishing in a dark cell for what he did.

Thanks.

I read the whole thing, it is utterly horrifying.

I can totally see Milo Yeahimadumbass, resplendent in Hugo Boss, boots shined to a blinding sheen, walking up and down the rows of captured women, singling out the “trannies” for extermination and the “fatties” for starvation camp.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:34:57am

NASA is launching the Pegasus satellite from a L1011 this morning.
Live feed nasa.gov

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:35:14am

re: #65 The Vicious Babushka

I read the whole thing, it is utterly horrifying.

I can totally see Milo Yeahimadumbass, resplendent in Hugo Boss, boots shined to a blinding sheen, walking up and down the rows of captured women, singling out the “trannies” for extermination and the “fatties” for starvation camp.

It’s supposed to be “humorous” and “satirical”…

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:37:06am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:41:49am

re: #68 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Viral Story of Tennessee Boy Who Died in Santa’s Arms Unravels

I thought that story was horrible the first time I saw it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:43:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:46:28am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

I thought that story was horrible the first time I saw it.

I do not even pay attention to viral stories like that anymore.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:47:38am

re: #9 Targetpractice

But the executive branch was no problem when the Governor was Republican.

Great argument. /s

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:52:44am

Trump now says he doesn’t like giving press conferences because the media mangle his “beautiful flowing sentences.”

vox.com

From his Wisconsin rally:

For the last month I decided not to do interviews, because they give interviews and they chop up your sentences and cut them short. You will have this beautiful flowing sentence where the back of the sentence reverts to the front and they cut the back of the sentence off, and I say I never said that. So, I said, you know what, I am not going to deal with them. They are very dishonest people, I said.

Read the Vox story. One of the linguists they interviewed notes that Trump’s style of speaking betrays a mind of a man who can’t concentrate very long and has very disorganized thoughts. While his conversational style of speaking may work well on the campaign trail, and his victory rallies, it’s going to fail him entirely once he assumes the presidency.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:57:13am

re: #43 sagehen

You are highly optimistic if you think Congressional Republicans won’t pick Trump. There is no way that the Republican base would let them get away with picking someone else.

If somehow Trump gets less than 270 electoral college votes, it would help to delegitimate his Presidency, which is already underwater in the favorable/unfavorable polls.

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Jayleia  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:58:01am

re: #73 wheat-dogg

One of the linguists they interviewed notes that Trump’s style of speaking betrays a mind of a man who can’t concentrate very long and has very disorganized thoughts.

They needed a linguist for that piece of information?

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 4:59:12am

It doesn’t help the fight against fake news when this kind of shit happens:

The Knoxville News-Sentinel says it no longer stands by the story of a man who told the newspaper that a terminally ill boy died in his arms while he was portraying Santa Claus.

The story, published in the News-Sentinel on Sunday and picked up by outlets all over the world, was about Eric Schmitt-Matzen, who said he had promised to protect the identities of the child’s family and the nurse who summoned him to the boy’s hospital bedside. In follow-up interviews, Schmitt-Matzen continued to stand by his account but declined to reveal the identities of those involved, according to the News-Sentinel.

In a story posted on the newspaper’s website Wednesday (bit.ly ), editor Jack McElroy and columnist Sam Venable, who wrote the original story, said Schmitt-Matzen’s story “remains unverified.” They wrote that they could not determine whether his account was accurate. They say they cannot stand by the veracity of Schmitt-Matzen’s account because it does not meet the newspaper’s standards of verification.

wtop.com

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:00:32am

Democrats: don’t try to work with Donald Trump. Just say ‘no’
theguardian.com

But there is a more important reason than salvaging dignity that Democrats shouldn’t do business with the president-elect: every time they say “I hope to find common ground with him,” they are saying that their pet issue is more important than the fact Trump has said Mexicans are rapists, “you can do anything” to women, Muslims should be registered or banned, the exonerated Central Park Five still deserve to be executed, and differently abled people deserve to be mocked. Each time a Democrat says “yes” to Trump’s choices or meetings or policies, they are normalizing his hate, ceding any moral ground they might be able to muster in future fights.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:05:36am

re: #77 sagehen

Democrats: don’t try to work with Donald Trump. Just say ‘no’
theguardian.com

Let the GOP be your example and work with Trump just like they worked with Obama!!!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:07:55am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Let the GOP be your example and work with Trump just like they worked with Obama!!!

Telling Trump “no” is sure to unhinge his mind even more.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:09:43am

Wow, he’s still butthurt over the “Short-Fingered Vulgarian” tag from 20 years ago. But now he’s the PEOTUS.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:12:09am
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:17:56am

TSA Fail

Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents in Los Angeles just confiscated a gigantic teddy bear and posted a photo of the poor guy on Instagram. And if that wasn’t enough, they gave him a depressing backstory. The TSA’s social media accounts really are a fantastic way to keep up to date on how the agency is ruining Christmas this holiday season.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:19:56am

re: #82 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents in Los Angeles just confiscated a gigantic teddy bear and posted a photo of the poor guy on Instagram. And if that wasn’t enough, they gave him a depressing backstory.

This teddy is now rotting in a landfill because parents did not follow TSA protocol!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:21:14am

re: #82 Emptor scriptor Remorse

TSA Fail

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TSA people exemplify the kind of bureaucrat who slavishly follows the letter of regulations while ignoring their spirit. A big stuffed teddy bear can be squashed into a bag and fit in the overhead bin.

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:21:14am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get trying to get the message out on what is allowed and not allowed, but this is coming off as gloating.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:21:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:22:18am

re: #84 wheat-dogg

TSA people exemplify the kind of bureaucrat who slavishly follows the letter of regulations while ignoring their spirit. A big stuffed teddy bear can be squashed into a bag and fit in the overhead bin.

They are simply afraid of losing their job if they do not follow every dot and comma and not about to risk anything…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:23:05am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:25:33am

re: #82 Emptor scriptor Remorse

TSA Fail

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Meanwhile, in the UK …

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:26:39am

Reload my 89. I forgot the link.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:39:25am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Thin skinned baby.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:42:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:46:59am

Baghdad Bobette explains to Joe & Mika that there’s an “exception” to the nepotism law.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:48:05am

So now here we are: Putin has his man in the White House, and it’s playing out like a twisted version of the mid 1980 ABC mini-series Amerika:

YouTube

So now what happens? Trump puts Russian-friendly people in positions of power. But what happens when Russia tries to screw Trump? We know we’re already getting screwed as it is, and Putin’s no dummy. That would also imply Russia has already inserted many spies deep into many parts of the US Government.

Wrap your head around that one for a moment.

Putin needs those sanctions lifted, and Trump will give it to him. But what about when Russia starts getting more adventurous? Let’s also not forget that if Putin pisses off Trump, lord knows what will happen as we head our way to Armageddon…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:49:07am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

nevitably each GOP administration’s allowed maximum leeway til they fuck up too much SHIT at the same time and the MSM gives up the ghost.

I really assumed that the MSM would figure out that Trump is still ratings gold whether they are fawning over him or trashing him but I was wrong about that, they never really stopped fawning or at least rationalizing and relativizing his excesses and vulgarianisms. Cannot see it changing with him in office.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:51:05am

This quote from Garry Kasparov is causing quite a stir on my Facebook feed. Fans of fake news are quite offended by it for some reason.

“The point of modern propaganda is not only to misinform or push an agenda - it’s to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:52:08am

re: #96 makeitstop

This quote from Garry Kasparov is causing quite a stir on my Facebook feed. Fans of fake news are quite offended by it for some reason.

“The point of modern propaganda is not only to misinform or push an agenda - it’s to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

Is there a tweet for that?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:52:39am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Notice in the picture that Bezos has the farthest away seat from Hair Furor?

That was no accident.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:54:14am

re: #96 makeitstop

This quote from Garry Kasparov is causing quite a stir on my Facebook feed. Fans of fake news are quite offended by it for some reason.

“The point of modern propaganda is not only to misinform or push an agenda - it’s to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

Because they know they’ve been suckers but to many of them admitting when wrong is to give their ideological enemies credit.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:54:57am

re: #98 Eric The Fruit Bat

Notice in the picture that Bezos has the farthest away seat from Hair Furor?

That was no accident.

Trump probably assigns seats according to some arcane personal system, like a Chinese emperor would have.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:56:12am

re: #97 Belafon

Is there a tweet for that?

Yes, I saw it on Elliot Lusztig’s feed last night.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:57:07am

re: #96 makeitstop

This quote from Garry Kasparov is causing quite a stir on my Facebook feed. Fans of fake news are quite offended by it for some reason.

“The point of modern propaganda is not only to misinform or push an agenda - it’s to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

The point of fake news is to discredit non-fake news.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:57:36am

re: #100 wheat-dogg

Bezos owns the Washington Post-need I say more?

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 5:59:45am

re: #82 Emptor scriptor Remorse

TSA Fail

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No doubt there’s a TSA worker’s kid getting a great big stuffed bear for Christmas…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:02:27am

re: #103 Eric The Fruit Bat

Bezos owns the Washington Post-need I say more?

I’m sure if he wasn’t also the CEO of Amazon, Bezos would have been left off the list like Jack Dorsey.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:04:57am

Another win for the steely-eyed rocket guys

Good thing they launched before Trump took office. He wants to end NASA’s Earth science research, because space.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:05:23am
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Lupin  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:07:15am

A page from Southern France:

In trying to explain what’s going on in the US right now to my unsophisticated fellow villagers here in the South of France, I found a useful short hand: Zimbabwe.

Now i feel bad because i don’t really know anything about Zimbabwe, and neither do they, really. For all I know it could be a well-run, corruption-free, model African country. But we all know the *image* it conjures up. Credit where credit’s due, I think I got the idea from Trevor Noah’s photo of Trump as a tinpot African military dictator.

But right now, using “Zimbabwe” (a likely partly fictional Zimbabwe) helps me explain things in a way that no other analogy did — the way “Versailles” used to be a good analogy for the DC elites. They understand what America has become/is becoming.
Truthfully, they understood the Iraq invasion better. Since Katrina (see: response, lack of) this is the first time I’ve seen the natives that bemused by what’s going on in the US.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:09:58am

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s only affiliated with 500 different companies, that isn’t complex or anything.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:10:57am

re: #109 Timothy Watson

He’s only affiliated with 500 different companies, that isn’t complex or anything.

///

He’s just a simple businessman.//

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:11:51am

re: #108 Lupin

Don’t worry, you’re not slandering Zimbabwe given some of its current problems:

Zimbabwe is in the throes of a crippling cash crisis. The southern African country has been using U.S. currency since April 2009, when hyperinflation that reached 500 billion percent caused the Zimbabwean dollar to collapse.

But the solution to that disaster contained the seeds of the next one: Zimbabwe imports far more than it exports — a problem that has been exacerbated this year by one of the worst droughts in recent memory — meaning that those precious U.S. dollars are all flowing out of the country.

Today, there is simply not enough hard currency for banks to meet customers’ demands. As a result, the economy is slowly grinding to a standstill: People don’t have enough money in their pockets to pay for basic goods while businesses struggle to pay for imports.

foreignpolicy.com

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Donkey With No Name  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:12:14am

re: #86 Sherlock Hound

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Well, if Ailes is head of Public Diplomacy, I think all bets are off on the VOA.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:12:39am

re: #108 Lupin

A page from Southern France:

In trying to explain what’s going on in the US right now to my unsophisticated fellow villagers here in the South of France, I found a useful short hand: Zimbabwe.

Now i feel bad because i don’t really know anything about Zimbabwe, and neither do they, really. For all I know it could be a well-run, corruption-free, model African country. But we all know the *image* it conjures up. Credit where credit’s due, I think I got the idea from Trevor Noah’s photo of Trump as a tinpot African military dictator.

But right now, using “Zimbabwe” (a likely partly fictional Zimbabwe) helps me explain things in a way that no other analogy did — the way “Versailles” used to be a good analogy for the DC elites. They understand what America has become/is becoming.
Truthfully, they understood the Iraq invasion better. Since Katrina (see: response, lack of) this is the first time I’ve seen the natives that bemused by what’s going on in the US.

Zim is what America could be, if we were to allow Trump to stay in office another 20 years while he quashes every opposition party or candidate to ensure his party retains power. Robert Mugabe is the quintessential tinpot dictator, a man who made his country his own personal bank account while tanking its economy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:15:36am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

He’s just a simple businessman.//

Yes, and his big appeal to the “businessman” whose assets are not much more than a pickup truck and some tools.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:16:48am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

Zim is what America could be, if we were to allow Trump to stay in office another 20 years while he quashes every opposition party or candidate to ensure his party retains power. Robert Mugabe is the quintessential tinpot dictator, a man who made his country his own personal bank account while tanking its economy.

Dear Mr Nkwomo:

Hello, I am an American Prince and my great-uncle has just died, leaving me a large inheritance…

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:18:14am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:20:27am

shoot me now

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:22:10am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

shoot me now

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This is more than I can take today.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:23:37am

re: #96 makeitstop

This quote from Garry Kasparov is causing quite a stir on my Facebook feed. Fans of fake news are quite offended by it for some reason.

“The point of modern propaganda is not only to misinform or push an agenda - it’s to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.”

Sounds pretty dead-on to me.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:24:01am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

shoot me now

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God would have been more direct, I suspect. Maybe a beam of light from the sky shining on his chosen candidate, or a booming voice, or maybe a burning Bush.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:24:14am

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

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Is that our old friend, Kilgore Trout?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:25:18am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Is that our old friend, Kilgore Trout?

No, somebody else with the same screen name, I think it’s the name of a character from a popular novel or movie.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:26:01am

Maybe this is Russia’s next step after screwing over our electoral system.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:26:20am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

shoot me now

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God’s a hacker?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:26:21am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

No, somebody else with the same screen name, I think it’s the name of a character from a popular novel or movie.

Character in Kurt Vonnegut novel.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:26:23am

re: #80 The Vicious Babushka

Has anyone looked at the really poor numbers of @VanityFair Magazine.

Believe or not, I, and I bet most people, have about a million other things to worry about than Vanity Fair’s “numbers”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:26:39am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

No, somebody else with the same screen name, I think it’s the name of a character from a popular novel or movie.

He is a serial character in several Kurt Vonnegut novels, and even “published” a novel in his “own” name.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:27:01am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

God’s a hacker?

Or Russian. Or Putin himself. Who knew?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:27:03am

re: #120 wheat-dogg

God would have been more direct, I suspect. Maybe a beam of light from the sky shining on his chosen candidate, or a booming voice, or maybe a burning Bush.

Would have also made it clear through the popular vote results that people wanted Trump. Man Graham’s a demented lunatic.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:27:13am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

No, somebody else with the same screen name, I think it’s the name of a character from a popular novel or movie.

Catch-22 I believe.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:27:59am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

No, somebody else with the same screen name, I think it’s the name of a character from a popular novel or movie.

Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse Five. He became a recurring character in Vonnegut’s novels.

Our guy spelled it Killgore. Half-clever double-entendre.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:28:29am

re: #121 Sir John Barron

Is that our old friend, Kilgore Trout?

Nah, if that was our KT, it would be a lot of OUTRAGE and concern trolling. It’s a shame that KT went that route because he could be a good contributor.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:29:01am

re: #131 makeitstop

Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse Five. He became a recurring character in Vonnegut’s novels.

Our guy spelled it Killgore. Half-clever double-entendre.

Oh Slaughterhouse Five. Had the era right at least.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:29:01am

re: #126 Sir John Barron

Believe or not, I, and I bet most people, have about a million other things to worry about than Vanity Fair’s “numbers”.

It’s a typical line of attack: talk about the target’s “bad ratings” But if their ratings are so bad, that means nobody is reading/watching, so what’s Trump complaining about? He’s just calling attention to them which will make their rating go up!

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:30:25am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

It’s a typical line of attack: talk about the target’s “bad ratings” But if their ratings are so bad, that means nobody is reading/watching, so what’s Trump complaining about? He’s just calling attention to them which will make their rating go up!

“Streisand effect? Terrible singer! Annoying liberal! No one cares about her!”

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bratwurst  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:31:05am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:33:30am

White supremacists on Twitter are creating fake African-American accounts, and predictably being lame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:33:41am

re: #135 Timothy Watson

“Streisand effect? Terrible singer! Annoying liberal! No one cares about her!”

whiny brat effect…nobody cares what you say, and it’s all lies!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:35:46am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

White supremacists on Twitter are creating fake African-American accounts, and predictably being lame.

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F for effort.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:37:15am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

F for effort.

Yeah, that’s probably how they’d spell it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:37:21am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

White supremacists on Twitter are creating fake African-American accounts, and predictably being lame.

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Report them to @imposterbuster

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:38:44am

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

Report them to @imposterbuster

Please tell that to the OP. I’ve signed off Twitter for the night. Got to sleep sometime.
;-)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:39:14am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:39:59am

re: #140 makeitstop

Yeah, that’s probably how they’d spell it.

I mean seriously Tyrone Davis, from Chicago, Nation of Islam, & hit me up ni&&as?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:40:55am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I mean seriously Tyrone Davis, from Chicago, Nation of Islam, & hit me up ni&&as?

jut good ole boys havin’ themselves some funnin’ around.

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Jayleia  Dec 15, 2016 • 6:40:57am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:00:47am

I just thought of a response to the “prosperity gospel” people: Yep, God is giving you all this money to test you, to see if you are a true Christian. Will you take care of the poor, children, the sick, and the elderly?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:09:00am

re: #147 Belafon

I just thought of a response to the “prosperity gospel” people: Yep, God is giving you all this money to test you, to see if you are a true Christian. Will you take care of the poor, children, the sick, and the elderly?

Yes, “taking care of them” in the sense of teaching them self-reliance and initiative by denying them any form of public assistance.

God is truly great and merciful.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:10:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:14:05am

re: #149 Myron Falwell (no relation)

America’s Got Talent’s jackie evancho will sing at DonaldTrump inauguration. Making her virtually unhirable anywhere after Jan. 20.

Was she at all hirable before that? Probably not, if she took the job…

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:14:32am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, “taking care of them” in the sense of teaching them self-reliance and initiative by denying them any form of public assistance.

God is truly great and merciful.

And thus, they have failed at being a Christian.

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:14:51am

So today the WaPo reports that nearly all Trump cabinet picks, and Trump himself, are ardent Ayn Randians.

Also, that story on NBC news last night, the one saying Trump was fully aware of Putin’s inteterference in the election is no where to be found in the print media I read (SF Chronicle, WaPo, and my local bird cage liner).

Nor did any of these papers report that Trump’s blind trust attended his meeting with the tech people yesterday.

The American media is dead. I guess running celebrity “news” and sports is all they’re good for now.

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:15:39am

re: #149 Myron Falwell (no relation)

She’s only 16. Will Trump be visiting her in her dressing room?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:17:34am

re: #153 Skip Intro

She’s only 16. Will Trump be visiting her in her dressing room?

Maybe he’s already dating her! Replacing Melania?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:17:50am

re: #153 Skip Intro

She’s only 16. Will Trump be visiting her in her dressing room?

Only as part of doing his job…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:19:08am

re: #152 Skip Intro

The American media is dead. I guess running celebrity “news” and sports is all they’re good for now.

When I saw that “Trending on Twitter” had come to be considered a viable news item for other media broadcasters, I knew that Western Civilization and Democracy were really on their way downhill…

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Franklin  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:19:18am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe he’s already dating her! Replacing Melania Ivanka?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:24:28am
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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:27:17am

re: #153 Skip Intro

She’s only 16. Will Trump be visiting her in her dressing room?

I said yesterday that she’d better hire a bodyguard in case Trump is feeling grabby.

Oh, and she should get the check before she performs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:29:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:29:53am

re: #159 makeitstop

I said yesterday that she’d better hire a bodyguard in case Trump is feeling grabby.

Oh, and she should get the check before she performs.

Before or after she signs the NDA?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:40:14am

re: #161 The Vicious Babushka

Before or after she signs the NDA?

Non-diddling agreement?

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:45:27am

re: #159 makeitstop

I said yesterday that she’d better hire a bodyguard in case Trump is feeling grabby.

Oh, and she should get and cash the check before she performs.

FTFY.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:52:45am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Glad Comey was really on the ball.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:53:21am

Incidentally - there was no mention of the hacking story at all on NYC news radio last night. None.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 7:57:28am

re: #165 makeitstop

Incidentally - there was no mention of the hacking story at all on NYC news radio last night. None.

the only time we cheer the CIA is when they are waterboarding suspected terrorists…

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Donkey With No Name  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:01:02am

A reminder that Republicans have a history of not knowing what the Department of Energy does:

thebulletin.org

In retrospect, perhaps the euphemism was entirely too coy, and we should have called it the Department of Things That Go Boom.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:14:52am

re: #167 Donkey With No Name

A reminder that Republicans have a history of not knowing what the Department of Energy does:

thebulletin.org

In retrospect, perhaps the euphemism was entirely too coy, and we should have called it the Department of Things That Go Boom.

For Perry’s benefit, we will call it the Department of Things That Are Not Meats

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:15:47am

BUWAAA-HAHAHAHAHA!

Scott Baio: I Was ‘Attacked’ by Red Hot Chili Peppers’ Wife Over Trump

Tempers were reportedly running high at an elementary school function attended by Scott Baio, the Republican actor who publicly endorsed Donald Trump, and Nancy Mack, the wife of Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith who called Trump racist during the campaign.
Baio claims Mack, an architect, physically attacked him at the school function in Thousand Oaks, California, over his support for the president-elect, while screaming, “Grab ‘em by the pussy!”
The Happy Days star has now filed a police report, according to TMZ, which says the trouble began when Mack, a vocal anti-Trump supporter, began “berating and cursing” the Trump celebrity surrogate at the aforementioned school event.

Poor, poor Chachi. Sounds like he needs a safe space….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:22:09am

barf…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:23:37am

I’m shocked. How about the rest of you?

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electrotek  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:24:03am

re: #108 Lupin

I hope they aren’t Le Pen supporters. It seems like south of France is a stronghold for the NF, can that be confirmed?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:24:32am

re: #169 makeitstop

BUWAAA-HAHAHAHAHA!

Scott Baio: I Was ‘Attacked’ by Red Hot Chili Peppers’ Wife Over Trump

Poor, poor Chachi. Sounds like he needs a safe space….

Liberals…so full of hate.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:26:25am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m shocked. How about the rest of you?

It’s a test for Republicans. Will there be checks and balances, or are they craven power grabbers?

(And yes, I know what everyone here thinks).

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electrotek  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:26:37am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

While the Trumpkins are out threatening academics who dare criticize their cheeto jesus

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:28:19am

re: #165 makeitstop

Incidentally - there was no mention of the hacking story at all on NYC news radio last night. None.

It is all over NPR, increasing in complexity and decisiveness every day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:30:58am

re: #176 retired cynic

It is all over NPR, increasing in complexity and decisiveness every day.

yes, but we know what kind of losers listen to NPR…they will be axed soon enough by the Ministry of Fairness and Balance.

/

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(alpuz)  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:32:09am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Liberals…so full of hate.

The headline for at least a few years. I wish it was snark.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:32:10am

re: #176 retired cynic

It is all over NPR, increasing in complexity and decisiveness every day.

That’s good to hear. Might help if it was blasting out of car radios in between commercial and ‘Traffic and Weather Together,’ though.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:33:11am

re: #176 retired cynic

It is all over NPR, increasing in complexity and decisiveness every day.

As a note in passing, I saw a story on the Putin/Hacking link on the Today show this morning (before leaving work) as well. It may finally be getting traction.

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Jayleia  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:38:49am

re: #179 makeitstop

That’s good to hear. Might help if it was blasting out of car radios in between commercial and ‘Traffic and Weather Together,’ though.

As soon as you said that, I remembered this…took a couple of minutes to find it, but it was unforgettable.

zitscomics.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:40:12am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:43:13am

re: #181 Jayleia

As soon as you said that, I remembered this…took a couple of minutes to find it, but it was unforgettable.

zitscomics.com

Site is firewalled here, can you post the panels?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:44:27am
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Jayleia  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:46:40am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Privated to avoid copywrong problems…

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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:47:14am

So…looking at buying a Kindle Paperwhite, anything I should know?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:50:03am

this is fun:

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:52:08am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

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The “poverty-industrial complex?” Really, zombie-eyed granny starver?
Paul Ryan is a total tool, except that can’t be right, because tools have uses and he is useless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:56:28am

re: #188 BeachDem

The “poverty-industrial complex?” Really, zombie-eyed granny starver?
Paul Ryan is a total tool, except that can’t be right, because tools have uses and he is useless.

We help the poor by teaching them self-reliance. We do that by depriving them of any and all forms of public assistance…

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:56:32am

re: #81 wheat-dogg

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Ah, another “populist firebrand.” How many does that make now?

Somebody should send every media outlet a thesaurus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:58:30am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 8:59:43am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:01:22am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She would actually be half-way qualified for the National Security gig (Ph.D., International Relations from Columbia).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:03:17am

re: #188 BeachDem

The “poverty-industrial complex?” Really, zombie-eyed granny starver?
Paul Ryan is a total tool, except that can’t be right, because tools have uses and he is useless.

Once you realize that everything Republicans say about Democrats is IMAX-in-Outer-Space projection, slogans like “they want to keep people poor & dependent” and “on the plantation” start to make horrible sense.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:09:46am

re: #185 Jayleia

Privated to avoid copywrong problems…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:13:35am

New York (CNN)Syria’s ambassador to the United Nations held up a photograph at Tuesday’s United Nations Security Council emergency briefing on Syria to demonstrate the compassion of Syrian government fighters in Aleppo. However, his description of the image was way off base.
“This is what the Syrian army is doing in Aleppo. Here you see a picture of a Syrian soldier providing help and support to a woman,” Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari told the Security Council, saying the woman was fleeing eastern Aleppo.

The problem is that the photograph is not from Aleppo. It’s not even thought to be from Syria. The version that Ja’afari held was cropped and did not show an Iraqi flag badge on one of the soldier’s uniforms. Social media was quick to point out the discrepancy.

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electrotek  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:16:20am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know who is worse on Twitter: Trump fanboys or Bashar apologists.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:18:08am

re: #186 Timothy Watson

So…looking at buying a Kindle Paperwhite, anything I should know?

I’ve been really happy with mine, although I now have the Voyage as my primary reader.

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Jayleia  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:18:29am

re: #197 electrotek

I don’t know who is worse on Twitter: Trump fanboys or Bashar apologists.

The Venn diagram of the two is almost a single circle, so on the plus side, you don’t really NEED to choose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:18:59am

trump is gonna need a bigger wall:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:21:27am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coast Guard, Royal Navy seize 26 tons of cocaine in Pacific

keep in mind that they never seize more than 10% of what is coming in, so that means that the headline should read “234 tons of cocaine get through”…

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:21:55am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is fun:

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Talking about Trump tweets against Vanity Fair, this is totally hilarious:

The timing of the tweets coincides with the publication of a series of satirical stories speculating on things found in Trump’s hair, including a battlefield map, the lyrics to Dark Side of the Moon, and cicadas.>/em>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:24:07am

re: #202 BeachDem

Talking about Trump tweets against Vanity Fair, this is totally hilarious:

The timing of the tweets coincides with the publication of a series of satirical stories speculating on things found in Trump’s hair, including a battlefield map, the lyrics to Dark Side of the Moon, and cicadas.>/em>

I remember his ongoing feud with Spy Magazine

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:25:08am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

trump is gonna need a bigger wall:

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Wait, if it was found in the Pacific why are they in Ft.Lauderdale?

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:25:24am
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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:29:53am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember his ongoing feud with Spy Magazine

Same guy.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:30:18am
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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:32:52am

Go, Gov. Brown!

sacbee.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:33:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:34:19am

oh..ok…

Pin this— Sean Spicer: “It’s not like there’s anything nefarious going on or sneaky or un-transparent.”

jeebus

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:35:22am

Charles Pierce on the Vanity Fair tweet:

Eight o’clock in the morning, a month before he becomes President of the United States, and the first thing he thinks of is to set his stubby lil’ fingers firing away in pursuit of a petty feud that began almost 30 years ago. This is manic behavior of the worst sort. Or, more precisely, of a worse sort, because I fear we haven’t come close yet to seeing what the worst sort of manic behavior out of this guy would be. For example, can you imagine what his reaction will be if some murderous gang of idiots makes a try at one of the properties bearing his name? We could lose a damn hemisphere.

esquire.com

Illustrating his pettiness is, in my mind, an OK pursuit, as long as it doesn’t become the lead story on the news. (I’m looking at you, ABC, with the Kanye story.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:35:27am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh..ok…

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jeebus

It’s like they don’t even understand what “conflict of interest” means.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:37:02am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, if it was found in the Pacific why are they in Ft.Lauderdale?

My question as well (didn’t read, the article, maybe they towed it?)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:40:17am

re: #213 makeitstop

My question as well (didn’t read, the article, maybe they towed it?)

Through the Panama Canal or around Cape Horn?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:41:28am

Oh well, that settles it then.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:42:26am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Through the Panama Canal or around Cape Horn?

Implausible, I realize. :)

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:42:30am

Good morning from Corpus Christi, Texas! We are under a DO NOT USE water ban, due to a “backflow incident” that occurred in the “industrial part of the city,” although the “industry has not been named.” An asphalt emulsifier has gotten into the city’s water supply, thanks to the refineries using potable city water (and apparently shitty backflow preventers). This means no hand washing, no dishwashing, no boiling — NOTHING can make it safe for use.

As a result, schools and restaurants are closed (who needs to work the week before Christmas, right?), and people are fighting over water in the stores. There are no handiwipes, stores are sold out of sanitizers, juice, sodas, etc. There are lines out the doors and around the buildings of people waiting for the next shipments of water to arrive.

Want a glimpse of what relaxed regulations nationwide under Cheeto Benito will look like? Come to my fair city and experience the awesomeness. Why, I can almost hear the businesses growing, unshackled from pesky laws, as I type this!!!

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:43:57am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

Character in Kurt Vonnegut novel.

He was in many Vonnegut novels. A play on the author Theodore Sturgeon a friend. Trout was kind of a foil of Vonnegut and used to add humor.

Edit…well, it appears that has been thoroughly explained. I should have known being late to the thread.

And I am COLD! Brrrr.

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electrotek  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:45:10am

re: #199 Jayleia

I’m not sure if this qualifies as cognitive dissonance but I’ll try anyways.

What I’ve noticed from Assad apologists is this: it’s based on extremely sectarian lines. It also exposes the hypocrisy of Shi’as as well. They are quick to denounce the shah of Iran as a lackey of America and a secular dictator, but defend another secular dictator and a lackey of Russia because he is of the same faith. Iyad el-Baghdadi pointed out a glaring case of hypocrisy from Iraqi Shi’as fighting for Bashar al-Assad. Iraqi Shi’as, who were victimized and persecuted relentlessly by a Baathist dictator in Iraq, turn around and defend another Baathist dictator in Syria, simply because he is pro-Iran and pro-Shi’a.

My point in all this? In a nutshell, if you’re going to condemn the Pahlavi dynasty for its brutal excesses, you better by the same token do the same to the al-Assad dynasty as well. But it may be a fatal flaw in human nature: that we as human beings will become irrational and endorse barbarity when it is suitable for our own narrative and agenda.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:45:18am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Oh well, that settles it then.

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See, they denied it. Checkmate libtards.//

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:47:01am

re: #217 Flying Squirrel Girl

Good morning from Corpus Christi, Texas! We are under a DO NOT USE water ban, due to a “backflow incident” that occurred in the “industrial part of the city,” although the “industry has not been named.” An asphalt emulsifier has gotten into the city’s water supply, thanks to the refineries using potable city water (and apparently shitty backflow preventers). This means no hand washing, no dishwashing, no boiling — NOTHING can make it safe for use.

As a result, schools and restaurants are closed (who needs to work the week before Christmas, right?), and people are fighting over water in the stores. There are no handiwipes, stores are sold out of sanitizers, juice, sodas, etc. There are lines out the doors and around the buildings of people waiting for the next shipments of water to arrive.

Want a glimpse of what relaxed regulations nationwide under Cheeto Benito will look like? Come to my fair city and experience the awesomeness. Why, I can almost hear the businesses growing, unshackled from pesky laws, as I type this!!!

Flintstones! Meet the Flintstones! The modern water processing facility!

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:48:16am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Oh well, that settles it then.

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Water is wet. Film at 11. (followed by a rebuttal by Sean Spicer, who posits that the jury is still out.)

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:48:35am

re: #188 BeachDem

The “poverty-industrial complex?” Really, zombie-eyed granny starver?
Paul Ryan is a total tool, except that can’t be right, because tools have uses and he is useless.

The “poverty-industrial complex” is private companies lobbying government for contracts to the um, er poverty. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:50:53am

re: #217 Flying Squirrel Girl

As a result, schools and restaurants are closed (who needs to work the week before Christmas, right?), and people are fighting over water in the stores. There are no handiwipes, stores are sold out of sanitizers, juice, sodas, etc. There are lines out the doors and around the buildings of people waiting for the next shipments of water to arrive.

Now someone needs to photoshop and tweet compare/contrast photos of the stores with long lines and nothing on the shelves in Corpus Christi today and one of those soviet-era pics we were so smug about in high school…

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:51:46am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Oh well, that settles it then.

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I just need Glenn Greenwald to weigh in on this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:52:48am

re: #224 sagehen

Now someone needs to photoshop and tweet compare/contrast photos of the stores with long lines and nothing on the shelves in Corpus Christi today and one of those soviet-era pics we were so smug about in high school…

Or the photos of Venezuela that wingnuts love to spam while they’re complaining THIS IS WHAT OBAMA & LIBRULZ WANTS FOR MURRICA!!!!!

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:52:58am

re: #208 retired cynic

Go, Gov. Brown!

sacbee.com

People like him are why people in conservative states move to liberal states. Why live in a state that isn’t going to support you when there are those that will.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:54:23am

re: #197 electrotek

I don’t know who is worse on Twitter: Trump fanboys or Bashar apologists.

I’m old enough to remember when wingnuts hated Obama for not overthrowing Assad. Or for not “doing something”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:55:23am

re: #225 Sir John Barron

I just need Glenn Greenwald to weigh in on this.

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On my FB feed this morning, there was a ‘Suggested Post’ from The Intercept saying that it wasn’t possible to pin the hacking on Russia based on ‘public data’.

First, public data isn’t what the CIA et al. use.

Second, you don’t think that Russia Today jumping the gun and posting their analysis of several of the Wikileaks releases is indicative? Ri-i-ight.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:56:18am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Ryan’s “better” way on poverty is to spend less on food and health assistance for poor kids so millionaires can pay lower taxes.

— Matthew Yglesias

And?!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:57:46am

re: #231 Sir John Barron

And?!

Better for whom?

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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 9:58:06am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huck is just trying to tweet like his hero, Trump.
/

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:01:22am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Report: Valero blames ‘third party operations’ for Corpus Christi water problem

Also known as outsourcing to the cheapest bidder. What could go wrong?

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:03:18am

Does anyone remember the DNC Communications Director being on every cable news show in 2008—or any other time— like lying Sean Spicer is now? Does anyone even remember who the DNC Communications Director was? (I looked it up—Brad Woodhouse—a true household name)

rawstory.com

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:04:49am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

And Valero doesn’t even think the city’s water supply was affected! I feel so much better now! What’s a little asphalt emulsifier in the water supply anyway? Parts per million, amirite?

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:06:53am

re: #116 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Now it’s somebody else’s good morning.

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:08:18am

re: #180 William Lewis

As a note in passing, I saw a story on the Putin/Hacking link on the Today show this morning (before leaving work) as well. It may finally be getting traction.

That’s only because Today is on NBC. That story doesn’t exist anywhere else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:08:40am

re: #237 wrenchwench

“If we can pull this off, we’ll eat like kings!”

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:09:01am

Comment from Facebook:

“At this rate, the entertainment at the Inaugural Ball might actually be a stool pigeon singing.”

Heh.

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:11:39am

re: #238 Skip Intro

That’s only because Today is on NBC. That story doesn’t exist anywhere else.

CNN is getting on it. For whatever that’s worth.

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:11:44am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

keep in mind that they never seize more than 10% of what is coming in, so that means that the headline should read “234 tons of cocaine get through”…

So there will be plenty available for the inauguration.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:13:13am

re: #237 wrenchwench

Now it’s somebody else’s good morning.

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BOOM!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:13:42am

What a way to end 2016.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:14:42am

People are such wussies these days. Time was when a Vice President could shoot you in the face and YOU would apologize…..

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:16:53am

re: #236 Flying Squirrel Girl

And Valero doesn’t even think the city’s water supply was affected! I feel so much better now! What’s a little asphalt emulsifier in the water supply anyway? Parts per million, amirite?

How dare the media report this? Just how anti-business are they, anyway?

They won’t get away with reckless behavior like this once Trump is King. Writing negative things about business will get you a one way trip to Trump Gitmo.

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:18:07am

re: #235 BeachDem

Does anyone remember the DNC Communications Director being on every cable news show in 2008—or any other time— like lying Sean Spicer is now? Does anyone even remember who the DNC Communications Director was? (I looked it up—Brad Woodhouse—a true household name)

rawstory.com

I don’t remember Hillary’s campaign manager being all over cable news either. I’ve already forgotten what his name is.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:19:38am

re: #247 Skip Intro

I don’t remember Hillary’s campaign manager being all over cable news either. I’ve already forgotten what his name is.

Robby Mook, IIRC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:20:07am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:20:37am

re: #241 sagehen

CNN is getting on it. For whatever that’s worth.

And now Trump is MAD! About the leaks of course. Still loves Russia, Russia couldn’t, wouldn’t, do anything wrong, ever.

/

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:22:40am

re: #235 BeachDem

Does anyone remember the DNC Communications Director being on every cable news show in 2008—or any other time— like lying Sean Spicer is now? Does anyone even remember who the DNC Communications Director was? (I looked it up—Brad Woodhouse—a true household name)

rawstory.com

Trump is just doing stuff differently.

Besides, he has real important stuff to do, like carry on a Tweet campaign against a magazine that gave his crappy Trump Grill a bad revue!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:22:46am

This fucking bullshit.

Facebook Post

Yes, ObserverArt, it really is from NBC4’s Facebook page.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:23:57am

So I’m wearing a silk shirt (oops, ‘blouse’) to work today. It’s really nice; cuffs, collar, sleeve-holders for when you roll them up, so it IS a work shirt. Tag is ripped out, so I don’t know what it is. $4.00 at the animal shelter’s thrift store. So I can wear it to work as a bike mechanic. All part of my ‘Are you homeless? avoidance strategy.

I gotta watch out tomorrow. They’re doing a Las Posadas thing in the neighborhood. I either have to sign up for a role, or lay low.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:25:40am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Let the GOP be your example and work with Trump just like they worked with Obama!!!

Yep. And give Trump the respect Republicans gave to President Obama. NONE.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:25:40am

re: #252 Myron Falwell (no relation)

This fucking bullshit.

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Yes, ObserverArt, it is from NBC4’s Facebook page.

Doesn’t surprise me. I’m all out of being surprised.

But thanks…’cuz I an not a Facebooker. It’s EVIL!

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:26:49am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:27:10am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh..ok…

[Embedded content]

jeebus

And we know that how exactly?

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:28:02am

re: #246 Skip Intro

How dare the media report this? Just how anti-business are they, anyway?

They won’t get away with reckless behavior like this once Trump is King. Writing negative things about business will get you a one way trip to Trump Gitmo.

Trumpmo

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:28:11am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:28:50am

re: #252 Myron Falwell (no relation)

When was anyone prohibited from saying “Merry Christmas”? These people are imbeciles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:30:32am
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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:30:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:31:46am

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

When was anyone prohibited from saying “Merry Christmas”? These people are imbeciles.

They’re going to force everyone to say “Merry Christmas.”

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:32:48am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

They’re going to force everyone to say “Merry Christmas.”

Because FREEDOM

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:33:59am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s the quote?

(I can’t look at a lot of stuff at work, but I send so much stuff home that I never look at it all.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:34:14am

Josh Marshall has an interesting piece up wherein he points out that while, yes, Comey and the Russian hacking likely swung the election because the margin was so narrow in PA, WI, and MI, the reasons it was close enough to be swung are a problem for Dems. Specifically, we don’t have a satisfactory policy answer to growing wage inequality and the disappearance of well-paid jobs for blue collar workers, especially in the Rust Belt.

To be fair, neither did Trump. His “policies” boil down to unicorn farts and promises to turn back the hands of time, which he can’t do, and was never really going to try to do. But he offered a scapegoat - ChYna and Mexico - and promised a trade war and a wall as the prescription. Simple solutions aimed at the wrong target in a complex situation.

The problem as I see it is that NOBODY has a good answer that doesn’t require rethinking the economy. I was listening to a show on NPR yesterday, where they were talking about this issue. And as bad as it has been for blue collar workers, largely losing their jobs to automation, it’s soon going to be that bad for white collar workers who will lose their jobs to Artificial Intelligence.

So, basically we’ll have an economy with mostly low wage workers, fighting over the scraps of available jobs - and thus unable to demand higher wages - and the folks at the top who will reap the rewards. A two-tiered society.

I’ve brought this up before, the Gene Roddenberry/Star Trek dream of a future where things like automation, AI, and replicator technology create an egalitarian society where there is no want, and wealth is relatively unimportant, because EVERYONE reaps the benefits of the work-saving technologies.

That’s not where we’re headed. Right now, we’re headed towards a world with mostly poor people and a very few very rich people, and an increasing scramble for the decreasing number of well-paid jobs. That’s not only not good for the poor people, it’s not even all that great for the rich people. We’ve already discovered the limits loosening credit in lieu of increasing wages.

It seems to me that the answer starts with socializing all the fixed costs of employment, followed by redefining the work week and work day to increase the number of employees, while rethinking the whole ‘maximizing profits’ drive. We USED TO share the benefits of increased productivity all the way down the economic scale. The rich got richer and the poor got richer. The rich didn’t get AS MUCH richer, but above a certain point, who cares? It’s just running up the score!

No idea how to get there, because everyone will see this as too radical, too Socialist. Hell, we can’t even half-ass socialize the INDIVIDUAL health insurance market without half the country screaming “Communism!”, so maybe we’re fucked. But this is what we’d have to do, IMO.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:34:36am

re: #264 Eventual Carrion

Because FREEDOM

FREEDOM as they forcibly pistol whip all dissenters into submission.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:35:33am

re: #265 Belafon

What’s the quote?

(I can’t look at a lot of stuff at work, but I send so much stuff home that I never look at it all.)

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:37:02am

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

The Star Trek universe had a major world war before their egalitarian society.

But yes, we have to figure out how to address it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:37:50am

something for VB:

To boldly go where no pie has gone before… 🖖

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:38:31am

re: #269 Belafon

The Star Trek universe had a major world war before their egalitarian society.

But yes, we have to figure out how to address it.

Trump gave Chekov a job on the bridge.

//

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:39:22am

Imgur


Lunch time!

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Kragar  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:40:01am

Joyner said that interfering in our election would have been a perfectly understandable thing for Russia to do while he also insisted that Russia did nothing of the sort. As Joyner explained it, in order to blame Russia for the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign, “you’re going to need some pretty sure evidence and if there is evidence left in the sources that were hacked, then you can almost be sure that it was not the Russians.”

The Russians are too sophisticated to leave behind any evidence of their involvement in this sort of cyberattack, Joyner insisted, and so if U.S. intelligence agencies discovered any evidence indicating Russian involvement, it must have been planted there by “whoever did do it … in order to point to Russia.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:40:07am

re: #269 Belafon

The Star Trek universe had a major world war before their egalitarian society.

But yes, we have to figure out how to address it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everytime I bring this up, somebody says that. Maybe even you. Friggin Trekkies!
/////

But that was because they, like everyone else in the 1960s, expected an apocalyptic war between the Free World and the Communist World, since we’d been headed in that direction since WWII.

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b.d.  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:40:15am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

We will do away with the Russia sanctions because they aren’t working and reimpose the Cuba sanctions for some other reason…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:42:00am

re: #273 Kragar

Wow! And using the same logic you can prove that the Russians actually did hack Hillary Clinton’s email server!

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:42:35am

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

I had a conversation this morning that touched on this. It touched on every other topic you could think of also. This guy was in the Air Force for four years of the Viet Nam war, as a code guy, better than everyone, gave all his ‘superiors’ the finger, has been in the radio business here in the middle of nowhere ever since, but nobody will hire him now because of the way the industry has been deregulated, nobody needs a professional any more…. I can’t remember this guy’s name, but I know I used to talk to him before I opened my bike shop, and now I remember why I’ve avoided him the 20 years (almost) since. He needs to join On-and-on-anon.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:43:45am

re: #274 Blind Frog Belly White

Your post does tie into something I’ve been thinking about. Is there any way we could make a change that big without incurring a crisis first? Ending slavery took a war. The New Deal took both a global economic crash and a war. The things I can think of that changed without a major crisis was Medicare and Apartheid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:44:27am

re: #278 Belafon

Your post does tie into something I’ve been thinking about. Is there any way we could make a change that big without incurring a crisis first? Ending slavery took a war. The New Deal took both a global economic crash and a war. The things I can think of that ended without a major crisis was Medicare and Apartheid.

Medicare didn’t end but may be about to.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:44:38am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Wow! And using the same logic you can prove that the Russians actually did hack Hillary Clinton’s email server!

God works in mysterious ways.

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gocart mozart  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:45:00am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:45:11am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Medicare didn’t end but may be about to.

Sorry, I meant changed. I updated the post.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:45:21am

re: #275 b.d.

We will do away with the Russia sanctions because they aren’t working and reimpose the Cuba sanctions for some other reason…

Because Trump can’t let it get out there that he willingly violated the embargo 18 years ago. That will be the reason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:46:07am

heh

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:48:38am

re: #237 wrenchwench

Now it’s somebody else’s good morning.

[Embedded content]

Imgur


The price of Freedom is constant vigilance…
and voting…
for Democrats, dammit.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:50:44am

re: #278 Belafon

Your post does tie into something I’ve been thinking about. Is there any way we could make a change that big without incurring a crisis first? Ending slavery took a war. The New Deal took both a global economic crash and a war. The things I can think of that changed without a major crisis was Medicare and Apartheid.

I don’t know. How can you reconcile with a people so divorced from reality, logic and reason?

Maybe the doomed fate of this republic has already been sealed and just needs to play itself out, either violently or non-violently.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:51:42am

re: #278 Belafon

Your post does tie into something I’ve been thinking about. Is there any way we could make a change that big without incurring a crisis first? Ending slavery took a war. The New Deal took both a global economic crash and a war. The things I can think of that changed without a major crisis was Medicare and Apartheid.

I don’t know. To me, the answer to the issue is pretty damned clear. The problem is that too many people, including many of those who would benefit most, and who will suffer most without it, will oppose it with every fiber of their being. They want SOMEONE to blame, and for that SOMEONE to be punished. Our jobs aren’t being stolen by Chinese and Mexicans. They’re being stolen by R2D2 and HAL9000.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:53:34am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

They’re going to force everyone to say “Merry Christmas.”

They’d like to think that they are going to force everyone to say “Merry Christmas”. Not going to happen. Trump fascists know damn well that this country is full of non-Christians, many of whom prefer “Happy Holidays”.

This faux martyrdom complex of Rightwing Christianists in a time when many of them are eager to force Muslims to register with the government is tiring.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:53:36am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:53:44am

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

And that played out spectacularly in the Matrix universe.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:56:36am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

O-o. Trump doesn’t seem to understand that being called “person of the year” may not be a good thing. He’s going to be hopping mad when the lightbulb finally comes on.

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electrotek  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:57:30am

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

#BoycottStarWars by the concerned working class communities

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:58:21am

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

O-o. Trump doesn’t seem to understand that being called “person of the year” may not be a good thing. He’s going to be hopping mad when the lightbulb finally comes on.

He thinks it should be “MAN of the Year”

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:58:37am

re: #273 Kragar

What cabinet position is left for Trump to put Joyner in? He’s perfectly qualified for the Trump administration.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:58:41am

re: #286 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I don’t know. How can you reconcile with a people so divorced from reality, logic and reason?

Maybe the doomed fate of this republic has already been sealed and just needs to play itself out, either violently or non-violently.

Too soon to guess. It will take 6-12 months to assess how much damage the untrammelled GOP can do. At best, Trump might be less destructive than GWB, who actually did start a modest war, trash the economy, and open the treasury doors for pillage. A lot of the suffering will fall on individuals, women and minorities, who will see their lives shortened and their choices constricted.

We will probably recover in less than 50 years, unless worst-case climate mismanagement screws the planet.

Sleeping through elections has consequences.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:59:06am

I’m patiently awaiting the next update from the CIA, but I can’t wait all damn day. C’mon, Spooks. Spill.

Also - I’m wondering why, after Trump’s big meeting with tech leaders yesterday, did none of them (except maybe Gates) come out and say something afterwards?

Did he make them sign NDAs for the meeting?

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gocart mozart  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:59:30am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2016 • 10:59:56am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Hmmmm. Speechless.

Our President-Elect is a real live idiot. What could go wrong?

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Kragar  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:00:33am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:01:35am

re: #299 Kragar

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O_o

Does that come with “overcooked woody batons”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:03:23am

re: #299 Kragar

[Embedded content]

*blink*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:04:06am
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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:05:14am

re: #287 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know. To me, the answer to the issue is pretty damned clear. The problem is that too many people, including many of those who would benefit most, and who will suffer most without it, will oppose it with every fiber of their being. They want SOMEONE to blame, and for that SOMEONE to be punished. Our jobs aren’t being stolen by Chinese and Mexicans. They’re being stolen by R2D2 and HAL9000.

And by the big company guys that want to make stuff as inexpensively as they can for more profits.

It’s not all robotics. If they can get cheaper labor to program, operate and fix the robots they will.

Much of it is greed. And that is not going to change until it is forced somehow. How? I have no idea. A lot of it is to do with how business is done in this country. Start with answering how much profit is enough or too much. Add that into how rich do you need to be and how much stuff is too much.

It really comes down to morals…business and individual

And the sad thing…a lot of them call themselves Christians. Go figure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:07:56am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:10:29am

re: #303 ObserverArt

And by the big company guys that want to make stuff as inexpensively as they can for more profits.

It’s not all robotics. If they can get cheaper labor to program, operate and fix the robots they will.

Much of it is greed. And that is not going to change until it is forced somehow. How? I have no idea. A lot of it is to do with how business is done in this country. Start with answering how much profit is enough or too much. Add that into how rich do you need to be and how much stuff is too much.

It really comes down to morals…business and individual

And the sad thing…a lot of them call themselves Christians. Go figure.

The thing is, it’s not just evil greedy business types. It’s inherent in capitalism. If someone can get away with paying less, or having fewer employees, or a less safe workplace, or a shittier environment, they will, and they’ll undercut anyone who tries to be a better person. It’s almost like water flowing downhill, or current following the path of least resistance. It’s practically a physical law, it’s so basic to Capitalism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:11:00am

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

Specifically, [Democrats] don’t have a satisfactory policy answer to growing wage inequality and the disappearance of well-paid jobs for blue collar workers, especially in the Rust Belt.

To be fair, neither did Trump. His “policies” boil down to unicorn farts and promises to turn back the hands of time, which he can’t do, and was never really going to try to do. But he offered a scapegoat - ChYna and Mexico - and promised a trade war and a wall as the prescription. Simple solutions aimed at the wrong target in a complex situation.

People will take simple, aspirational solutions over complex, reality-based ones almost any day…

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:12:20am

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

The worst thing about Obama’s people and NBC saying the Russians/Putin are directly linked is so many people today are denying it. They want proof dammit…PROOF!

Until they get it this is all partisan politics by a grumpy old woman politician that can’t get over the fact that she lost the election to a big rich powerful businessman that is going to change America.

No proof and they will use this against NBC, the media and Democrats for a long long time.

And the proof better be indisputable because they won’t believe that anyway…but it may sway people that are right in the head. The Deplorables…nothing is going to change them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:13:08am

re: #306 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People will take simple, aspirational solutions over complex, reality-based ones almost any day…

And it’s easier to blame a person than the system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:13:15am

re: #273 Kragar

Rick Joyner dismisses reports that Russia influenced the US election by setting up an impossible standard of proof.

Man who believes in virgin births and people walking on water and being raised from the dead demands a high standard of proof…

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:13:50am

re: #295 Decatur Deb

Too soon to guess. It will take 6-12 months to assess how much damage the untrammelled GOP can do. At best, Trump might be less destructive than GWB, who actually did start a modest war, trash the economy, and open the treasury doors for pillage. A lot of the suffering will fall on individuals, women and minorities, who will see their lives shortened and their choices constricted.

We will probably recover in less than 50 years, unless worst-case climate mismanagement screws the planet.

Sleeping through elections has consequences.

Deb! You haven’t been around the same time I was logged in. Are you doing well and the eyes are fine I hope?

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gocart mozart  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:14:56am
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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:16:07am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Deb! You haven’t been around the same time I was logged in. Are you doing well and the eyes are fine I hope?

Getting better, still can only read for 15-20 minutes at a time. This might be the best time to be out of the discussion.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:16:36am

re: #296 makeitstop

I’m patiently awaiting the next update from the CIA, but I can’t wait all damn day. C’mon, Spooks. Spill.

Also - I’m wondering why, after Trump’s big meeting with tech leaders yesterday, did none of them (except maybe Gates) come out and say something afterwards?

Did he make them sign NDAs for the meeting?

Jeff Bezos said the meeting was “very productive.” No idea if he was just glad handing, hoping for the best or truthful. That is how things are going to be. Trump is going to run an very secretive administration. He will make Nixon look like the founder of Sunshine Laws! Remember sunshine laws???

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:18:47am

re: #299 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Classy, the best!

Why buy all those special drink glasses for such a special place???

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:21:59am

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, it’s not just evil greedy business types. It’s inherent in capitalism. If someone can get away with paying less, or having fewer employees, or a less safe workplace, or a shittier environment, they will, and they’ll undercut anyone who tries to be a better person. It’s almost like water flowing downhill, or current following the path of least resistance. It’s practically a physical law, it’s so basic to Capitalism.

That is where the moral part comes in. The really are business morals…they just aren;t applied or thought of anymore.

I’ve mentioned before. I have a brother (now retired) that since the early 80s as asked many a business person “how much profit it enough and too much?” No answers yet. None will be forthcoming.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:22:07am

re: #314 ObserverArt

Classy, the best!

Why buy all those special drink glasses for such a special place???

Reminds me of the ‘big, tall Martini’ in ‘Seven Year Itch’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:27:44am

re: #315 ObserverArt

That is where the moral part comes in. The really are business morals…they just aren;t applied or thought of anymore.

I’ve mentioned before. I have a brother (now retired) that since the early 80s as asked many a business person “how much profit it enough and too much?” No answers yet. None will be forthcoming.

Businesses, especially large businesses aren’t people. They’re not moral entities. If you expect them to be, you’ll always be disappointed. That’s why regulations exist, and why they keep being added to - someone always finds a way, and you can’t shame a corporation into behaving. You can TRY cutting into their profits to encourage better behavior.

The funny thing is, your average Free Marketeer firmly believes that if there’s a demand, The Market will supply it, and that market forces will make it cheaper over time. But they don’t want to accept those market forces will also inevitably lead to workers and consumers being exploited, because that would mean that the Free Market isn’t perfect.

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wrenchwench  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:27:44am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Deb! You haven’t been around the same time I was logged in. Are you doing well and the eyes are fine I hope?

I was gonna say that! But—customer.

Good to see you, Deb.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:35:22am

re: #273 Kragar

[Embedded content]

BUT KILLERY CLINTON KILLED VINCE FOSTER!!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2016 • 11:42:27am

re: #307 ObserverArt

The worst thing about Obama’s people and NBC saying the Russians/Putin are directly linked is so many people today are denying it. They want proof dammit…PROOF!

Until they get it this is all partisan politics by a grumpy old woman politician that can’t get over the fact that she lost the election to a big rich powerful businessman that is going to change America.

No proof and they will use this against NBC, the media and Democrats for a long long time.

And the proof better be indisputable because they won’t believe that anyway…but it may sway people that are right in the head. The Deplorables…nothing is going to change them.

I’m getting that, too. One guy on Facebook wouldn’t even answer the question of what he thought should be done if there is solid proof tying the hacking to the Trump campaign.

Impeachment? Nope. Not without an ‘investigation.’ The goal posts have been hooked up to a perpetual motion machine.


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