An Amazing Band You Probably Haven’t Heard Of: Progger: “Morning Star”

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“Morning Star” is the fifth video single from “Dystopia,” the new album from Progger available
on March 9, 2018 through Ropeadope Records and available here:

http://proggermusic.bandcamp.com
https://fanlink.to/Progger

“Morning Star” was written by Brian Donohoe and features the following stellar musicians:

Steve Anthony Belvilus (drums)
Bryan Ladd (electric bass)
Daniel Muniz (guitar)
Carter Arrington (guitar, solo)
Isamu McGregor (keyboards)
Paul Deemer (trombone)
Brian Donohoe (saxophone, keyboards)

Recorded by Diko Shoturma and Nic Hard at Atlantic Sound Studios, Brooklyn, NY. Mixed by Matt Meli at Orb Studios, Austin, TX. Mastered by Sam Minaie at Birdfood Studios, Queens, NY. Videography by Jonathan Schwolsky/EggSalad Productions. The music was produced and the video was edited by Brian Donohoe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:37:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:40:17pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

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*sputter* HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT THE RIGHTFULLY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY BE PREVENTED FROM DOING HIS JERB!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:40:37pm

Very Snarky Puppy-esque.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:41:06pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:49:09pm

But it’s Trump’s lackeys who are actually going to prison.

Christian podcaster: ‘God is using Trump to put Obama and Hillary in jail for treason’

Mark Taylor, a far-right Christian-themed conspiracy theorist who calls himself the “Firefighter Prophet,” appeared on the USAWatchdog this weekend and gave his latest prediction. In short, Trump is getting reelected and Obama is going to prison for treason.

“Donald Trump is not going anywhere,” Taylor says in a clip flagged by Right Wing Watch. “He’s here for two terms, period. He will win the second term, it won’t even be a contest. If they thought the first one was a runaway train, wait for the next election.”

Taylor added that God told him that Obama would end up being “charged for treason” and will “go to prison, along with a ton of other people.”

“The word that God gave me talked about judges, senators, congressmen and women at the local, state, and federal levels that God himself was going to expose.”

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Bass Reeves  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:50:51pm

From the last thread:

re: #414 Belafon

It’s not the cheating, it’s the hiding. Not only was the hiding wrong from the POV of not informing the electorate, but it opened him to blackmail.

No, not really. Trump has affairs. It’s part of his brand. How exactly do you blackmail a guy who married the mistress who he cheated on his 2nd wife with, who was the mistress who he cheated on his first wife with…based on cheating?

If it was Obama, Hillary, Cruz, Romney, etc…sure that’s valid calculus. This is “I grab them by the pussy, and they don’t stop me” guy, a month before the election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:53:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:53:58pm

re: #6 Bass Reeves

From the last thread:

No, not really. Trump has affairs. It’s part of his brand. How exactly do you blackmail a guy who married the mistress who he cheated on his 2nd wife with, who was the mistress who he cheated on his first wife with…based on cheating?

If it was Obama, Hillary, Cruz, Romney, etc…sure that’s valid calculus. This is “I grab them by the pussy, and they don’t stop me” guy, a month before the election.

The Russians have kompromat on Trump but it has nothing to do with his sex life. It’s about how much money he has and how he makes it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:55:41pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:56:17pm

The sun’s getting low now and the smoke is really noticeable—visually, but that’s all. Now last summer, with that smoke from British Columbia…you could see it, smell it, and chew on it!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:57:22pm

re: #10 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The sun’s getting low now and the smoke is really noticeable—visually, but that’s all. Now last summer, with that smoke from British Columbia…you could see it, smell it, and chew on it!

We’ve just lost the smoke cover over the weekend. A brief rain spell seems to have cleared the skies of the very visibly noticeable haze.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:57:48pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not surprising, since, like PR, Hawaii is full of brown people.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:59:47pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:01:34pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bass Reeves  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:01:45pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

The Russians have kompromat on Trump but it has nothing to do with his sex life. It’s about how much money he has and how he makes it.

Right…but the discussion was about why Trump would bother to pay hush money to hide affairs that everyone knows he has.

To put it in perspective, Trump had already been exposed as a casual sexual assaulter and misogynist, wtf could Stormy have said in October to sway even 500 voters versus Comey’s letter?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:03:08pm

re: #12 TedStriker

Not surprising, since, like PR, Hawaii is full of brown people.

Like Puerto Rico, it’s a foreign country. Remember the outrage when Obama went there during the campaign? The foreign country he was born in? Who needs Kenya?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:03:18pm
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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:05:26pm

re: #17 Dr. Matt

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Those people look way too close!

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:07:07pm

Hurricane Lane will probably not make landfall in Hawaii, though hurricane force winds may affect some of the islands.

Lane hasn’t moved as far north as expected, though it will move north.

Importantly, the idea is to be prepared.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:07:43pm

This Russian bot just showed up in my mentions, thoughtfully notifying me that it’s a Russian bot.

The profile says BLOCK ME NOW.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:08:06pm

re: #19 freetoken

Hurricane Lane will probably not make landfall in Hawaii, though hurricane force winds may affect some of the islands.

Lane hasn’t moved as far north as expected, though it will move north.

Importantly, the idea is to be prepared.

Can we get a check-in from our HI Lizards (BigPapa, etc.)?

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:08:18pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

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Under the previous administration, the DOJ and FTC would have come down hard on them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:08:22pm
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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:08:26pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:08:50pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

The Russians have kompromat on Trump but it has nothing to do with his sex life. It’s about how much money he has and how he makes it.

They know his net worth when he took office—negative, I’m willing to bet—and that’s the one thing he will not have found out. He’s proud of everything else.

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ozharas  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:09:43pm

Australian government is in crisis - just about every Minister has resigned, the “government” has closed Parliament and we are adjourned until September.

Our conservative government is tearing itself apart over what type of conservative party they are - hard right and reactionary or socially progressive/fiscally conservative.

It’s an absolute farce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:11:25pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:11:34pm

re: #26 ozharas

Geez, dude, and here I thought we had it bad with our President’s campaign advisers getting convicted of felony charges and facing life imprisonment.

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can't think of a decent username  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:12:45pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d like to think so, but when the cops (i.e., the Republicans in Congress) will do anything to avoid arresting the crooks, they can probably last a long, long time. :/

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:13:06pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They know his net worth when he took office—negative, I’m willing to bet—and that’s the one thing he will not have found out. He’s proud of everything else.

He’s in hock to the oligarchs past the tips of his combover. They own his ass and they keep him on a tight leash. He has to beg for his allowance and show them what a good boy he is. That is why he likes to pretend that his opponents “begged him” for something.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:13:38pm

re: #15 Bass Reeves

Right…but the discussion was about why Trump would bother to pay hush money to hide affairs that everyone knows he has.

To put it in perspective, Trump had already been exposed as a casual sexual assaulter and misogynist, wtf could Stormy have said in October to sway even 500 voters versus Comey’s letter?

It almost feels reflexive. None of his campaign folks were really good or experienced non-corrupt strategists. It’s like, oh an affair is about to leak, okay, let’s stop that from happening cause that’s what you do for politicians. NDAs, funny money moves and cover-ups are our wheelhouse so that’s what we’re going with.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:14:08pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They know his net worth when he took office—negative, I’m willing to bet—and that’s the one thing he will not have found out. He’s proud of everything else.

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Trump having unprotected sex with porn stars is a BONUS with his base, why bother with hush money? Holy crap, Stormy Daniel’s husband is filing for divorce, citing infidelity. She had more reason to want to keep quiet than he did!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:14:14pm

re: #29 can’t think of a decent username

I’d like to think so, but when the cops (i.e., the Republicans in Congress) will do anything to avoid arresting the crooks, they can probably last a long, long time. :/

While that’s true, the criminal enterprise is being dismantled one piece at a time. Trump himself may be untouchable while the Republicans are in control of both houses of Congress, but if either of those conditions change - if he fails to be elected, or if the Democrats take control - then that piece is also vulnerable to being removed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:14:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:15:11pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:17:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:19:21pm

*blink*

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:19:26pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:20:36pm

re: #32 Bass Reeves

At the time he was paying hookers he hadn’t realized just how degenerate his base and the evangelicals who lead them were. He sure wouldn’t worry about it today. He might even have them on stage with him during his rallies.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:20:46pm

I have a novice MacBook question. How come the little buttons are no colored?

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:20:51pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He did get in trouble on Twitter though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:21:20pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is quite literally the definition of “guilty”. I’m … not quite sure what to say to this.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:22:18pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

You only get colored buttons on the pro version.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:22:23pm

re: #41 JordanRules

So they’ll suspend a parody account of a fictional character, but not Nazis? Right. I see where their priorities are.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:22:55pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:23:01pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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This is the reasoning:

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:23:37pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

You only get colored buttons on the pro version.

That’s what I have. Up to today they were colored. Is there a toggle?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:23:50pm

re: #45 JordanRules

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oh…dear…

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:24:31pm
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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:24:39pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox Business guest: “Michael Cohen’s guilty plea doesn’t even mean that Michael Cohen is guilty”

And of course, since it’s coming from a nicely-dressed lady - who is an “AUTHOR” even - on a “respectable” “Business” channel, the FOX audience will likely just nod, and marvel at how much sense she makes…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:24:41pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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“Truth isn’t truth!”

//

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:24:58pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…dear…

This is some serious chum for his white supremacist base.
Yikes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:25:08pm

re: #46 Belafon

LOL!

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:25:41pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

I was kidding. I think mine are colored and there’s no toggle I’m aware of. Reboot time?

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:26:56pm

re: #45 JordanRules

Isn’t Melanoma going there? Let her handle it.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:27:42pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

That’s what I have. Up to today they were colored. Is there a toggle?

Yes, in system preferences, general

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:28:04pm

Why do I suspect Trump would have been totally cool with apartheid?

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:28:25pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

Isn’t Melanoma going there? Let her handle it.

As far as we know, she’s hovering over the big ass continent since they gave us no details because it’s an incompetent shit show all around.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:28:34pm

re: #54 Skip Intro

I was kidding. I think mine are colored and there’s no toggle I’m aware of. Reboot time?

Yeah, just did that. Weird.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:28:40pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do I suspect Trump would have been totally cool with apartheid?

Because he practiced it as a landlord?

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:29:13pm

re: #60 KGxvi

Because he practiced it as a landlord?

Got there in 36 seconds. Very nice!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:29:15pm
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Bass Reeves  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:29:27pm

re: #39 Skip Intro

I don’t exactly know about him paying hookers, I haven’t seen those stories. Trump has been dating “models” forever. Nobody is accusing him of paying these women for sex. At that time they are discussing these payments (Aug-Oct 2016), everyone knows Trump is a serial philanderer, and has known it for 30 years. This is an article from like, the SAME WEEK the payments were made, discussing Trump’s serial infidelity. Known. Fucking. Quantity.

They are too stupid to even realize when they don’t need to cover something up.

Edit: Sorry…this article came out a week before the payments were made.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:29:34pm

re: #46 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:29:53pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:30:19pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

“Truth isn’t truth!”

//

With apologies to Oscar Hammerstein:

A bell is not a bell till you ring it
A song is not a song till you sing it
Love in your heart wasn’t put there to stay
Trump and his gang should all be locked away.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:30:28pm

re: #56 KGxvi

Yes, in system preferences, general

Bravo. That worked. Had to change it to blue.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:31:17pm

re: #45 JordanRules

Dotard deleted the tweet

Then tried again

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:32:58pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard deleted the tweet

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Lots of do-overs lately.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:33:36pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He had Pompeo’s @ wrong.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:33:57pm

Meanwhile, pending a radical change in the next week or so, this could be the first August since 2002 with ZERO active hurricanes in the Atlantic basin.

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:34:22pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard deleted the tweet

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Not only could he not spell expropriations nor understand it, I doubt he could even pronounce it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:34:33pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard deleted the tweet

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LOL…he tagged a Pompeo fan account in the first tweet instead of Pompeo’s official account.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:34:42pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard deleted the tweet

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All this fucker does is watch TV. He really is our angry, fat, racist uncle.

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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:35:05pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard deleted the tweet

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Well, a couple of seconds Googling revealed that there IS some vague grain of truth behind the Orange Anus’ tweet: the South African government IS currently debating proposals for (what seems to be fairly large-scale) land nationalization of some sort: though the “large-scale killing” part seems to be mainly racist fantasizing: so of course Trump tweets it….

ADD: One link Google tossed up was to the RWNJ Washington Times - and even they seemed to think Tucker Carlson’s take on the SA thing was a tad inaccurate //

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:35:39pm

The shocker is that there are Pompeo fans.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:37:47pm

Mikey is getting the “coffee boy” treatment:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:37:47pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

That’s what I have. Up to today they were colored. Is there a toggle?

You used to (in Tiger for sure) be able to choose in preferences between “Aqua” and “Platinum”—which is what that looks like. Now that Aqua has been abandoned in favor of a “flat”, childishly simplistic, drab, and dull interface, Platinum went away too. Maybe there’s a choice in High Sierra? (I’m stuck on El Capitan.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:38:24pm

Trump to Stephen Miller: “WHY DIDN’T YOU THINK OF THAT?”

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:38:52pm
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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:40:10pm

re: #75 Jay C

Well, a couple of seconds Googling revealed that there IS some vague grain of truth behind the Orange Anus’ tweet: the South African government IS currently debating proposals for (what seems to be fairly large-scale) land nationalization of some sort: though the “large-scale killing” part seems to be mainly racist fantasizing: so of course Trump tweets it….

There is more than a grain of truth. I haven’t been able to figure out exactly how the South African government wants to decide which farms to expropriate, but there has been a long term goal to return something like 30% of farmland to blacks on the theory the whites originally swiped it from them. The killing part seems like Trump is conflating it with the history of land expropriation in Zimbabwe, with an extra bit of drama thrown in.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:42:13pm

re: #81 calochortus

There is more than a grain of truth. I haven’t been able to figure out exactly how the South African government wants to decide which farms to expropriate, but there has been a long term goal to return something like 30% of farmland to blacks on the theory the whites originally swiped it from them. The killing part seems like Trump is conflating it with the history of land expropriation in Zimbabwe, with an extra bit of drama thrown in.

From what I can tell, and I’m not sure it’s accurate given the sources I was looking at, it seems to be targeted at farms of more than 25,000 acres.

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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:43:27pm

re: #82 KGxvi

From what I can tell, and I’m not sure it’s accurate given the sources I was looking at, it seems to be targeted at farms of more than 25,000 acres.

Well, hey, it’s in Africa, so no one here would be interested in reading the details, right?
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:44:17pm

“…According to the Land Audit Report, 72% of agricultural land is owned by white farmers, down from 85% when apartheid ended. Much remains in the hands of the minority Afrikaner community, the white descendants of colonial-era settlers. Of 56 million South Africans, about 8% are white, according to the census.”
theguardian.com

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:45:05pm

re: #83 calochortus

Well, hey, it’s in Africa, so no one here would be interested in reading the details, right?
//

Heh, it’s just that most of the top hits when I searched were mostly right wing type “news” “sources”, so I don’t know how accurate they actually are.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:46:08pm

In case you missed it:

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Scout  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:46:20pm

re: #4 Kragar

I realize I’m just yelling at clouds, or tilting at windmills or whatever, but it’s really wearing on my nerves how Raw Story gets credit (and clicks) for good reporting by another news outlet, in this case The Washington Post.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:47:26pm

re: #86 Dr. Matt

How fucked up do you have to be that you feel it necessary to take your gun into the shower with you?

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:47:29pm

I take it Stephen Miller is the only one left who will talk to him now.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:48:48pm

re: #89 Ace-o-aces

Miller has that “will administer suicide drugs in the bunker” look.

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BigPapa  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:48:57pm

How soon before Trump goes full White Genocide? Days.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:49:42pm

re: #75 Jay C

Well, a couple of seconds Googling revealed that there IS some vague grain of truth behind the Orange Anus’ tweet: the South African government IS currently debating proposals for (what seems to be fairly large-scale) land nationalization of some sort: though the “large-scale killing” part seems to be mainly racist fantasizing: so of course Trump tweets it….

Yeah. I was already aware of the story. Wasnt a big secret but I probably should have guessed that he’d glom on to it.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:50:01pm

re: #88 KGxvi

How fucked up do you have to be that you feel it necessary to take your gun into the shower with you?

John MaCfee is a seriously fucked up person. Check out the netflix movie about him.

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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:51:35pm

re: #92 JordanRules

Yeah. I was already aware of the story. Wasnt a big secret but I probably should have guessed that he’d glom on to it.

Probably been all over Fox News. It’s been popping up on wingnut sites the last few days. I doubt he caught it when he was checking the Reuters or AP sites for the latest in actual news.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:52:11pm

Dipshit D’Stupids, being a dumbass:

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:53:39pm

re: #88 KGxvi

How fucked up do you have to be that you feel it necessary to take your gun into the shower with you?

John McAfee burned out on bath salts years ago.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:54:10pm

The account replied with some bullshit under the tweet.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:55:50pm

re: #90 jaunte

Miller has that “will administer suicide drugs in the bunker” look.

I was doing some image searches for Photoshop ideas and saved this image because it was just so Stephen Miller. Enlarge it and get his full effect. Yikes. Stink eye. Dude is really creepy.

Stephen Miller…watching over a meeting like an eagle.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:56:13pm

re: #88 KGxvi

How fucked up do you have to be that you feel it necessary to take your gun into the shower with you?

Somebody got a very teeny tiny pee pee.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:57:05pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:57:07pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

I was doing some image searches for Photoshop ideas and saved this image because it was just so Stephen Miller. Enlarge it and get his full effect. Yikes. Stink eye. Dude is really creepy.

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Does he look like Kevin Spacey to anybody but me?

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:58:25pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:59:31pm

re: #38 jaunte

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There’s more than 2 women. Way more.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:00:46pm

re: #102 JordanRules

My guess is you have a bust of P.W. Botha in the oval office rather than Mandela?

Eugène Terre’Blanche.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:01:00pm

re: #101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Does he look like Kevin Spacey to anybody but me?

If you gave him more hair and maybe shortened his face a tad, yes, I can see it.

May have more in common too, you never know. Creepy…

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:01:24pm
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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:02:42pm

Here’s a funny old thread from Trump.

Not that old but this week has already been like 2 months.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:04:19pm

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Eugène Terre’Blanche.

*shudders*

Reminded of his existence and now I have a permanent scowl.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:06:46pm

re: #13 Kragar

Wow!! Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. /s

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:08:47pm

More court runners to add to the genre Belafon brought us.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:08:52pm

re: #109 Patricia Kayden

Wow!! Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. /s

Meanwhile, when us peons apply for a job, they call all our previous employers. I guess past a certain income level, that falls by the wayside?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:09:13pm

re: #102 JordanRules

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WTH? So of course, Trump is whipping up racial hysteria about a foreign country. Why not?

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:09:20pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:09:49pm

Just read that Barbara Harris died yesterday. An underappreciated actress in my book. Was in one of my favorite all time movies, “A Thousand Clowns.”

Sandra: Well, Murray, um, to sort of return to reality for a moment…
Murray: I’ll only go as a tourist.

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retired cynic  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:10:12pm

Here’s something different! Takes about 10 minutes, but it blew my mind: underwater photography like I’ve never seen!

player.vimeo.com

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:10:46pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:14:31pm

re: #110 JordanRules

More court runners to add to the genre Belafon brought us.

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I like the guy with the “Selling out democracy to Putin. Pay your taxes!” sign….

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:14:48pm

Mmhmm
They backed out of being the money middle man so they started off smarter than their partners in crime. Of course they still directed the dirt to Cohen so he could handle it directly.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:16:15pm
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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:17:38pm

re: #117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I like the guy with the “Selling out democracy to Putin. Pay your taxes!” sign….

He’s pretty damn perfect in that shot. Very patriotic.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:18:07pm
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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:20:38pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:25:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:25:35pm
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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:31:49pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Wow!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:33:35pm
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Interesting Times  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:36:00pm

:/

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:36:45pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:38:47pm

re: #127 Interesting Times

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I’d only add what we’ve learned about our institutions.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:41:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:43:28pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:44:14pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:45:33pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Here’s why your mentions are a fucking sewer right now.

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Scout  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:52:03pm

Harley-Davidson has been in the news lately. Here’s the local angle in my hometown paper:

Harley sales hurting
Shukan Jitsuwa (Aug. 23-30) reported that Murayama Motors, a major outlet for Harley-Davidson motorcycles located in Tokyo’s Shibuya Ward, recently filed for bankruptcy in the Tokyo District Court.
Over the previous decade Harley sales in Japan were boosted somewhat by the affluent middle-aged demographic, but as Japan’s baby boomers age, they are replacing choppers for walkers. Another factor seems to be the gradual phasing out of the internal combustion engine.
“As with passenger cars, two-wheeled vehicles are in the process of switching to electric motors,” said a source in the trade. “This means not only Harley, but established Japanese manufacturers such as Honda … are being challenged by new business startups and can no longer depend on the strengths of their brand image.”
While annual domestic motorcycle sales in 2017 grew by about 10 percent over the previous year to reach 383,613 units, the number is just a fraction of the figure for the peak year, 1980, when about 2.3 million were sold.

Link

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 8:58:11pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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These people have unlimited choice, resources and leisure at their feet. We are fighting all of it from so many angles and I will try not to punch down when we lose a battle because they have such an embedded systemic advantage and they know it. People are trying, trying so hard and they get tired and they still have to make sure they can eat and take a sick loved one to the doctor. They will push more on us because they are rewarded for it in our exhaustion even if we beat them on that one thing. We’ve had some huge wins. Huge ones. But we can’t be niave about the dynamics at play here and we need to calculate that into part of the response.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:01:20pm
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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:01:35pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

If you gave him more hair and maybe shortened his face a tad, yes, I can see it.

May have more in common too, you never know. Creepy…

Looks like a young Jonathan Banks….who is still playing villainous roles.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:02:44pm

re: #137 Scottish Dragon

Looks like a young Jonathan Banks….who is still playing villainous roles.

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That one is spot on to me.

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Interesting Times  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:09:49pm

re: #135 JordanRules

On a related note, I think this is quite possibly the best comeback I’ve seen to a certain moldy-oldie libertarian GOPer cliché:

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:11:43pm

re: #138 JordanRules

That one is spot on to me.

The first time I saw Steven Miller I immediately thought to myself:

It’s that guy who played the asshole thug from Beverly Hills Cop and a bunch of other 80’s shows!

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:15:30pm

PUPPY!

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:19:39pm

re: #139 Interesting Times

On a related note, I think this is quite possibly the best comeback I’ve seen to a certain moldy-oldie libertarian GOPer cliché:

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Exceptionally well said.
And American exceptionalism is dancing around with our human rights weaknesses and will not let us even try to fix any of the runaway capitalism and corruption.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:21:21pm

re: #140 Scottish Dragon

The first time I saw Steven Miller I immediately thought to myself:

It’s that guy who played the asshole thug from Beverly Hills Cop and a bunch of other 80’s shows!

And Mike Ehrmantrout:

“Shut the fuck up and let me die in peace…”

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:24:26pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Meanwhile, pending a radical change in the next week or so, this could be the first August since 2002 with ZERO active hurricanes in the Atlantic basin.

The Pacific is just going Gonzo. It’s weather.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:28:50pm

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meteor  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:31:06pm
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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:33:52pm

re: #129 JordanRules

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I’d only add what we’ve learned about our institutions.

Institutions are only as good as the people who occupy positions of power within them. Ultimately, it always comes down to the people, the individuals, in positions of power. If they are good/decent people, we have a chance; if they are not good/decent people… we have less of a chance.

It is also why power should be as diffused as possible. And then, for good measure, set against each other.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:34:05pm

The both sides God reigns supreme.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:35:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:37:24pm

I’m a big fan of just going balls out and bankrupting Manafort at this point. He should go into the DC trial feeling all the pressure Mueller’s team can bring to bear.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:38:26pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Institutions are only as good as the people who occupy positions of power within them. Ultimately, it always comes down to the people, the individuals, in positions of power. If they are good/decent people, we have a chance; if they are not good/decent people… we have less of a chance.

It is also why power should be as diffused as possible. And then, for good measure, set against each other.

Indeed and yet they can still be hardened to protect against really widely held affronts.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:40:00pm

re: #128 jaunte

AWB’s three legged swastikoid has always reminded me of someone running away from something, maybe a nazi from the advancing allies in 1945.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:45:50pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

PUPPY!

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My favorite hill, despite the fact that I dislocated an ankle and broke a tibia there.

Fucking Marker Rotomat’s…

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:47:43pm

re: #153 austin_blue

My favorite hill, despite the fact that I dislocated an ankle and broke a tibia there.

Fucking Marker Rotomat’s…

These bastards!

This is the clamp that holds me in.

bishopbindings.com
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:49:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 9:53:33pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m a big fan of just going balls out and bankrupting Manafort at this point. He should go into the DC trial feeling all the pressure Mueller’s team can bring to bear.

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Mueller should be using the same asset forfeiture policies they use for suspected drug operation. Take it all, and use the funds to pay for his investigation so the RWNJs can’t complain about costs.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:06:04pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:22:25pm

Probably better than anyone Trump would appoint.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:25:53pm

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

AWB’s three legged swastikoid has always reminded me of someone running away from something, maybe a nazi from the advancing allies in 1945.

It’s a triskelion: See “Gamesters of”. Also very, very Celtic, so I don’t know what the Boers have to do with it.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:30:17pm

re: #156 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Mueller should be using the same asset forfeiture policies they use for suspected drug operation. Take it all, and use the funds to pay for his investigation so the RWNJs can’t complain about costs.

I think he can only lay out the facts to do such, by the proper LEO, via his report?

I think he will have enough evidence to, in fact, make that an obvious justification.
Then comes the *will* of the next entity in power concerning this investigation.
*throws cards into the air*

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:32:11pm

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a triskelion: See “Gamesters of”. Also very, very Celtic, so I don’t know what the Boers have to do with it.

en.wikipedia.org

The AWB flag is composed of three black sevens forming a triskelion in a white circle upon a red background, resembling the flag of Nazi Germany. According to AWB, the sevens, ‘the number of final victory’, ‘stand to oppose the number 666, the number of the anti-Christ’. Red is considered to represent Jesus’ blood and the struggle of the Christians, while black stands for bravery. The inner white circle symbolises the “purity” and “eternal life”.

Official Emblem:

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:35:23pm

OT technical question: if one R defects to D in the Senate to select a new Majority Leader, would that be sufficient to get Schumer this position, given that McCain is not available to vote?

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:40:49pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

These bastards!

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My Da was from Denver and A basin was his favorite hill. We had gone up the day previously and there was a dump of about 4” inches of heavy wet with around 12” inches of sweet powder on top of it that night.

It was February, 1969, I had just turned thirteen, my brother 10 1/2. Da was getting ready to deploy to Chu Lai, flying F-4’s for a year. Went up to the top of the basin with our Da. Cut some some slow lazy esses up top and then went into one of the moderate steeps where I started sitting back and chopping left/right cuts as we got into the trees, keeping the speed down. We had all day.

Little brother yelled “Woo-hoo!” and busted down the hill. The powder was deep enough that even sitting back and juking, the only thing I could see was the furrows of the tips moving the snow unless I bumped up and cleared snow. Got into a small chute, got some speed and my right ski furrow disappeared. Felt a tug on the right and tried to step out of the binding while throwing myself to the left.

Ended up going ass over teakettle and landed on my back, head downhill, legs up in the air. Pushed the powder away, sputtering and half-blind, and twisted my body so my legs were pointed downhill. Then I wondered why my left ski tip was pointy and my right ski tip, which was about 60 degrees off center, was square.

Then the pain hit and I squealed like a pig. My right ankle had rotated about 120 degrees to the right. My Da was sidestepping it uphill yelling “Be calm! Don’t look at it!”
Which was the worst advice I had ever heard. How can you not look at a joint that had done something impossible?

No cell phones, of course. My Da yelled “Ski Patrol! Injury!” at the next guy who came through, and about twenty minutes later guys in the brightly colored vests showed up.

Ski off, on the sledge, my Da stomping uphill and finding the branch that had cracked and fallen under the first heavy snow the night before, then covered with powder. A land mine.

So, that’s my history with Marker Rotomat bindings. Ten weeks on crutches. My younger brother laughing at me for getting fucked up. My Da heading off to the ‘Nam again two months later, where he would return with a Legion of Merit with a combat V, a Presidential Unit Citation, a fistful of Air Medals, and a Hanson Award,

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:42:28pm

It’s still awake.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:43:11pm

playing SOAD Chop Suey on Baroque Grand by Bösendorfer

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:45:59pm

re: #164 Kragar

It’s still awake.

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Eww. And it’s all caps blurts.
Go the fuck to sleep, you have no clothes you fraud.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:48:06pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:57:13pm

re: #163 austin_blue

Bummer, dude!

Here, I’ll just post all my Instagrams of your favorite ski hill.

*hidden because lots of Instagrams*

Click to Reveal

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.@Arapahoe_Basin, I’ve missed you so.

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Time for some hiking. Willy’s Wide, @ArapahoeBasin.

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I made it! Loving this high alpine environment. @ArapahoeBasin

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Magnificent view, I must say. #NoFilter @ArapahoeBasin

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Looking down Snorkel at @ArapahoeBasin. @WagnerCustom

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Looking up Snorkel after I skied it. Fun line! @ArapahoeBasin

And I always get one of these after I’m done skiing at A-Basin, their famous bacon bloody mary. A meal in itself.

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Been a while since I’ve had one of these! @arapahoe_basin’s famous bacon bloody mary, for my birthday!

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 10:58:56pm

My brain just reminded me how dirty Kennedy’s retirement looked, and Kavanaugh’s finances.

There’s so much going on, sometimes you get these flashback reminders.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:05:29pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Bummer, dude!

Here, I’ll just post all my Instagrams of your favorite ski hill.

*hidden because lots of Instagrams*

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And I always get one of these after I’m done skiing at A-Basin, their famous bacon bloody mary. A meal in itself.

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It’s the bomb. I know last year was a disaster, but how did A-Basin do? I mean that north face had to help. But did they get any snow?

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:05:47pm
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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:06:37pm

...

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:10:56pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Bummer, dude!

Here, I’ll just post all my Instagrams of your favorite ski hill.

*hidden because lots of Instagrams*

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And I always get one of these after I’m done skiing at A-Basin, their famous bacon bloody mary. A meal in itself.

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Thank you, my man. A lot of great memories (well, except for the last time I wore Marker Rotomats) were on that hill. One of the great skiing venues in Colorado. Half above the tree line, and half dodging trees. So cool. So challenging.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:12:57pm

Sleepless in D.C.

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teleskiguy  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:21:16pm

re: #170 austin_blue

It’s the bomb. I know last year was a disaster, but how did A-Basin do? I mean that north face had to help. But did they get any snow?

Not really. All of the southern Rocky Mountains got low snowpack last winter. The mid-Rockies (Jackson Hole, Big Sky, Sun Valley) did fine last winter.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:24:58pm

Well, Drumpf is sleepless in the White House, tonight. And he has two interviews tomorrow morning! At 6 and 8, if I’m not wrong.

And the Production crew at Faux has got to be in an absolute panic at this point trying to determine if they can put a voice delay on the POTUS because there is every possibility that he could just CUT LOOSE and go bull goose loony.

So I’m off for the rack, because watching reactions to this here (I don’t have cable), should be wildly amusing.

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:41:20pm

re: #174 Single-handed sailor

Sleepless in D.C.

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Are they gonna have to start shooting him up with sleep meds?
That never ends well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:49:01pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

A category 4 hurricane is about to hit the Hawaiian islands…people are in a crisis and they up the prices?!

Supply and demand, the very heart and soul of Free Enterprise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:50:47pm

re: #15 Bass Reeves

Right…but the discussion was about why Trump would bother to pay hush money to hide affairs that everyone knows he has.

$150K is chump change to him, it is just to avoid annoyance.

I cannot wait for his tax records to be subpoenaed and finally become a matter of public record. I suspect that it will show the extent to which he is beholden to foreign (governmental) influences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:53:39pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

Fox Business guest: “Michael Cohen’s guilty plea doesn’t even mean that Michael Cohen is guilty”

If the Truth is not the Truth, then a guilty plea is not a guilty plea.

I still worry that Trump has the chutzpah and the backing to walk away from all this personally unscathed.

He has overturned every convention and expectation of politics and governance so far, at this point his best approach is to continue to flee forward.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:54:45pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 11:55:13pm

re: #45 JordanRules

I have asked Secretary of State @MikePompeo4USA to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

We need not go into how white farmers came to own that land in the first place, now, do we?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:03:48am

re: #81 calochortus

There is more than a grain of truth. I haven’t been able to figure out exactly how the South African government wants to decide which farms to expropriate, but there has been a long term goal to return something like 30% of farmland to blacks on the theory the whites originally swiped it from them. The killing part seems like Trump is conflating it with the history of land expropriation in Zimbabwe, with an extra bit of drama thrown in.

Dogwhistling and preying on dark fears of a Mau-Mau uprising…always goes down well with the base.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:04:10am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We need not go into how white farmers came to own that land in the first place, now, do we?

*hiding, pokes head out*

No. Not ever. That would ruin everything. Too real.

*goes back to hiding*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:10:48am

re: #141 teleskiguy

Meet Tikka, Arapahoe Basin’s newest avalanche dog in training! She’s a Golden Retriever who’s ready to take on the world.

one of my favorite Russian jokes:

Two guys are buried in an avalanche. A St Bernard shows up with a cask of brandy under its collar.

“Man’s best friend!” exclaims the first.

“Yes, and a dog to bring it!” exclaims the other.

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Scout  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:12:37am

re: #171 JordanRules

Those evil bastards. …

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:19:30am
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Bass Reeves  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:20:54am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

$150K is chump change to him, it is just to avoid annoyance.

I cannot wait for his tax records to be subpoenaed and finally become a matter of public record. I suspect that it will show the extent to which he is beholden to foreign (governmental) influences.

I think JordanRules is closer to the truth about the reflexiveness. Until I see a tax return, I call bullshit on any amount of money being chump change to Trump in 2016. He’s fucked over contractors for less, it obviously matters. And jfc can y’all slow down and read wtf I write? An extramarital affair from 2005 isn’t even annoyance to Trump post ‘grab them by the pussy’. How could consensual sex be worse than sexual assault?

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:27:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:29:33am

re: #159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a triskelion: See “Gamesters of”. Also very, very Celtic, so I don’t know what the Boers have to do with it.

Four-legged swastika is banned so these creative geniuses are constantly coming up with ways of getting around it. Like wearing a “Lonsdaple” T-shirt with an open shirt over it covering up the first and last two letters revealing only “NSDAP”

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:34:02am

The hits just keep on coming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:35:47am

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

I interviewed Paul’s father, Ron Paul, the day I resigned from RT. I can say with certainty Ron Paul was used to further Russian propaganda interests. Rand is now also a Russian tool. The question is whether he is a witting or unwitting Russian asset

willing or unwilling? this guy has “kompromat” written all over him

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Scout  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:41:22am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

willing or unwilling? this guy has “kompromat” written all over him

Of course I’m just guessing, but I don’t think blackmail enters into this for any of these guys (the Pauls, Rohrabacher, trump, etc.).

I truly believe they are just doing it of their own volition.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:43:42am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 1:12:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 1:13:11am

LOBSTERS LOST | 7,000 lbs of lobster spill onto Route 1 in crash

pretty unique roadkill

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 23, 2018 • 1:21:16am
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freetoken  Aug 23, 2018 • 2:54:32am

Post Modern Liberace:

Liberace on The Monkees

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LastYearsMan  Aug 23, 2018 • 2:55:38am

Meanwhile here in Korea, typhoon Silouk downgraded to a tropical storm but it’s slamming into the Peninsula now. Should hit Seoul overnight (or at least graze it).

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freetoken  Aug 23, 2018 • 2:58:42am

王将　村田英雄

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freetoken  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:05:26am

Meanwhile, typhoon Cimaron is heading to west Japan:

Lane is still expected to take a left turn before it gets to Honolulu, though some of the islands may experience tropical force winds:

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freetoken  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:11:32am

That Old Black Magic: Witchcraft and Trump

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fern01  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:19:59am

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“The word that God gave me talked about judges, senators, congressmen and women at the local, state, and federal levels that God himself was going to expose.”

Hey - he’s not far wrong - so many of these GOP people are being exposed by God himself.

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fern01  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:57:23am

re: #77 Dr. Matt

It is true that Cohen’s role has been somewhat overstated

Maggie still supporting her man.

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Scout  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:57:32am

re: #202 freetoken

Meanwhile, typhoon Cimaron is heading to west Japan

It sure is. We were battening down the hatches at my office this afternoon.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 3:58:17am

Someone wasn’t sleeping well last nite.

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fern01  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:09:50am

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

There is always at least one juror who wants to tell the story. Doesn’t matter how many times a Judge tries to stop them.

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Teukka  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:18:12am

So, Lizardim, does anyone of you remember a scholarly article which showed correlation of patriarchal/misogynistic/pro-rape attitudes and propensity to rape? I seem to have lost the link to that article.
Trying to make an argument elsewhere…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:19:16am

He kills everything near him..

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:42:51am

Morning!

I just heard a tad bit of Trump’s Fox Friends interview on the Today show.

WHUT?

So, he is saying if he gets impeached the markets will crash or something.

I guess it is game on.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:47:11am

re: #45 JordanRules

Wait, we’re back to caring about what foreign governments do within their own borders?

Or is just government policy by Fox News? /

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:54:42am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

But Hillary Clinton is the tots guilty and we will LOCK HER UP!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:56:39am

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

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I’m curious about what kind of Kompromat Putin has on Alan Dershowitz!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 4:59:39am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

“See, this is how far and deep the illegal Mueller Deep State Conspiracy goes.”

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:01:01am

Good morning Lizards:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:10:12am
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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:11:37am

I am here for Anger Spice to get dragged. Here for all of it.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:12:37am

Morning……

Pool party last nite…..

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:12:45am

re: #218 BigPapa

I am here for Anger Spice to get dragged. Here for all of it.

How’s the storm?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:13:38am

re: #218 BigPapa

I am here for Anger Spice to get dragged. Here for all of it.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:23:11am

re: #218 BigPapa

I am here for Anger Spice to get dragged. Here for all of it.

Excuse me if I use that from now on……. Anger Spice. Lordy that’s perfect.

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Teukka  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:25:10am

Facebook Post

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:26:34am

re: #220 Stanley Sea

How’s the storm?

Got some light rain yesterday afternoon, but nothing right now. It’s starting to weaken, which is good, but it’s slow, which means it could dump lotsa rain. Mrs BigPapa and I have lots of water and 6 flavors of da spams, so we good. My mom is here too, she’s getting the full on Hawaiian experience!

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:28:35am

re: #199 freetoken

Post Modern Liberace:

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Video

That had to be Nesmith’s idea. Fits his sense of humor to a tee.

And Lee was probably like ‘Yeah, let’s do that!’ He had a subversive streak as well.

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jeffreyw  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:28:48am

Imgur

Imgur


Good morning!

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:30:22am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

Someone wasn’t sleeping well last nite.

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The best name so far imo:
“President Unindicted Co-conspirator”

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:31:01am

So Manafort would have been convicted of all 18 counts if it weren’t for one MAGA moron jury member:

Duncan described herself as an avid supporter of President Trump, but said she was moved by four full boxes of exhibits provided by Mueller’s team - though she was skeptical about prosecutors’ motives in the financial crimes case.

“Certainly Mr. Manafort got caught breaking the law, but he wouldn’t have gotten caught if they weren’t after President Trump,” Duncan said of the special counsel’s case, which she separately described as a “witch hunt to try to find Russian collusion.”

dailykos.com

But just to make herself feel better, Duncan wore her MAGA hat on her drive home each day after court and plans to vote for Trump again in 2020.

Oh brother….not impartial at all!!!

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:32:48am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Morning!

I just heard a tad bit of Trump’s Fox Friends interview on the Today show.

WHUT?

So, he is saying if he gets impeached the markets will crash or something.

I guess it is game on.

re: #211 ObserverArt

Morning!

I just heard a tad bit of Trump’s Fox Friends interview on the Today show.

WHUT?

So, he is saying if he gets impeached the markets will crash or something.

I guess it is game on.

“All the plants are gonna die”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:33:40am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:35:51am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

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I’ll give him an A-Hole

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:39:41am

re: #211 ObserverArt

This video clip pretty amazing: mediaite.com

He literally lied for 2 minutes straight. He spent 2 minutes spewing out fake data. He said each 1% growth of GDP is $3.5 trillion and 10 million jobs. He claimed the pipeline he approved created 48,000 jobs.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:40:27am

re: #228 b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)

So Manafort would have been convicted of all 18 counts if it weren’t for one MAGA moron jury member:

dailykos.com

Oh brother….not impartial at all!!!

JFK.

Nice job getting an impartial jury there. (spit)

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:43:13am

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) put it this way (re pardoning manafort) “You’ve got to earn a pardon. I think it would be seen as a bridge too far.”

Arpaio?
D’souza?
The Hammond’s?

They earned em? I wonder how

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:44:43am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:45:22am

Has anyone seen Mike Pence? And what is he doing?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:46:42am

re: #236 Dave In Austin

Has anyone seen Mike Pence? And what is he doing?

Decorating the Christmas tree.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:46:51am

South Africa to Trump - ‘Shut the fuck up, old man.’

The South African government lashed out at President Donald Trump on Thursday after he tweeted that his administration would be looking into farm seizures and the “large scale killing of farmers” in South Africa.

The government said Trump’s tweet was based on “false information” and reflected a “narrow perception which only seeks to divide our nation and reminds us of our colonial past.” It said it was meeting with the U.S. Embassy on Thursday as it seeks to clarify Trump’s remarks.

[…]

“People are not being targeted because of their race, but because they are vulnerable and isolated on the farms,” said Gareth Newham, head of the crime and justice program at the Institute for Security Studies in the capital, Pretoria.

“There is no white genocide in South Africa,” Julius Malema, leader of the opposition Economic Freedom Fighters party, told reporters. “There is black genocide in the USA; black people are killed every day. There is a black genocide here in South Africa; just recently a farmer was convicted for the murder of a black farmer.”

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:51:04am

re: #232 Dr. Matt

This video clip pretty amazing: mediaite.com

He literally lied for 2 minutes straight. He spent 2 minutes spewing out fake data. He said each 1% growth of GDP is $3.5 trillion and 10 million jobs. He claimed the pipeline he approved created 48,000 jobs.

He’s fucking nuts. And that is just 2 minutes of his full interview. I bet the whole thing is off the clock crazy.

Part of what I heard earlier was a little of his comments about Cohen. He said what Cohen plead guilty to are not even crimes. Meaning he is not part of any crime either.

He needs a lesson in the law. A big lesson. He is calling everyone out to go ahead and try to remove him.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:51:08am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:52:40am

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

But it’s Trump’s lackeys who are actually going to prison.

Christian podcaster: ‘God is using Trump to put Obama and Hillary in jail for treason’

God *spoke* to you?
In that kind of detail?
About those things?

Delusional moran

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:52:51am

re: #238 makeitstop

South Africa to Trump - ‘Shut the fuck up, old man.’

They should say something like:

“Stop believing everything you watch on Fox ‘News’ “.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 5:53:28am

re: #241 dangerman

God *spoke* to you?
In that kind of detail?
About those things?

Delusional moran

Did you get recording?

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:05:38am

re: #242 Sir John Barron

They should say something like:

“Stop believing everything you watch on Fox ‘News’ “.

I liked how they threw shade about black genocide in America, though. Trump probably won’t get it, though.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:19:34am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Morning!

I just heard a tad bit of Trump’s Fox Friends interview on the Today show.

WHUT?

So, he is saying if he gets impeached the markets will crash or something.

I guess it is game on.

And we could end up with Mike Pence as president. But, we have to do the right thing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:20:01am

re: #234 dangerman

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) put it this way (re pardoning manafort) “You’ve got to earn a pardon. I think it would be seen as a bridge too far.”

Arpaio?
D’souza?
The Hammond’s?

They earned em? I wonder how

Go ahead and pardon Manafort, Mr. President. Then he can’t plead the Fifth if subpoenaed to testify. Mueller doesn’t even need to question Trump; the asshat confesses to crimes with every TV interview he gives.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:21:53am

re: #245 Belafon

And we could end up with Mike Pence as president. But, we have to do the right thing.

Pence can only become President if GOP Senators vote to remove Trump from office. That would make him complicit in the anti-Trump conspiracy in the eyes of GOP voters, destroying any chance he has of being elected President.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:22:23am

re: #233 Sir John Barron

JFK.

Nice job getting an impartial jury there. (spit)

An impartial jury could still have Trump supporters. Impartial means they could vote either for or against the defendant.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:22:33am

re: #245 Belafon

And we could end up with Mike Pence as president. But, we have to do the right thing.

Id rather deal with a neutered Mike Pence than the UnIndicted Co-Conspirator at this point.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:26:12am

re: #247 Big Beautiful Door

Pence can only become President if GOP Senators vote to remove Trump from office. That would make him complicit in the anti-Trump conspiracy in the eyes of GOP voters, destroying any chance he has of being elected President.

I understand. I was trying to make the point that the threats he’s making are no reason to not do what needs to be done, even if they are true.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:27:33am

re: #249 Dave In Austin

Id rather deal with a neutered Mike Pence than the UnIndicted Co-Conspirator at this point.

Not to mention that Pence could end up being an unindicted co-conspirator too, before this is all over.

Manafort picked Pence. Why?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:27:37am

re: #249 Dave In Austin

Id rather deal with a neutered Mike Pence than the UnIndicted Co-Conspirator at this point.

They’d be basically forced to run Pence in 2020 if he were the incumbent. I can’t think of anyone less likely to win in the General. He was all set to lose as Governor of Indiana when Manafort got tRump to pick him as his running mate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:28:50am

Rob Rogers got fired from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because he wouldn’t follow the publisher’s order to kiss Trump’s ass.

He continues to stick it to the Marmalade Shitcannon and his brainwashed supporters who lust to be his jockstrap!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:30:11am

re: #252 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’d be basically forced to run Pence in 2020 if he were the incumbent. I can’t think of anyone less likely to win in the General. He was all set to lose as Governor of Indiana when Manafort got tRump to pick him as his running mate.

I don’t think so. I imagine Rubio, Kasich and some others might well challenge for the 2020 nomination if Trump is out of the picture. But with the GOP torn asunder by betraying Trump, I doubt any of them could win.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:34:32am

re: #254 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think so. I imagine Rubio, Kasich and some others might well challenge for the 2020 nomination if Trump is out of the picture. But with the GOP torn asunder by betraying Trump, I doubt any of them could win.

You could be right, but they went through a lot of anyone-but-Romneys in 2012 and a lot of anyone-but-Trumps in 2016. We’ll see how many anyone-but-Pences they can come up with and how they fare.

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:34:42am

Upding for Marmalade Shitcannon

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:35:15am

re: #249 Dave In Austin

Id rather deal with a neutered Mike Pence than the UnIndicted Co-Conspirator at this point.

Criswell Bacon predicts if Pence becomes President he will NOT pardon Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:36:36am

re: #254 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think so. I imagine Rubio, Kasich and some others might well challenge for the 2020 nomination if Trump is out of the picture. But with the GOP torn asunder by betraying Trump, I doubt any of them could win.

I can easily see a rerun of the Ford-Reagan 1976 bloodletting in 2020 between Pence and Kasich.

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garzooma  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:37:00am

re: #228 b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)

So Manafort would have been convicted of all 18 counts if it weren’t for one MAGA moron jury member:

dailykos.com

Oh brother….not impartial at all!!!

The MAGA juror voted to convict on all counts. It was a different juror that held out on the 10 counts where they couldn’t reach a verdict.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:38:47am

re: #257 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts if Pence becomes President he will NOT pardon Trump.

Noone on the right seems to understand that one must admit guilt in order to obtain a pardon. Trump will never admit guilt.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:39:56am

re: #260 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Noone on the right seems to understand that one must admit guilt in order to obtain a pardon. Trump will never admit guilt.

Even as he confesses to committing felonies on TV because he is too ignorant to understand what he did.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:42:51am

re: #261 Big Beautiful Door

Even as he confesses to committing felonies on TV because he is too ignorant to understand what he did.

It doesn’t matter to the brainwashed Xtians. Their Pulpit Pimp Preachers will continue to feed them the latest Frank Luntz Focus Group Tested Bullshit every Sunday. The brainwashed Xtians will still worship Trump as their White Trash Messiah.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:43:02am

re: #260 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Noone on the right seems to understand that one must admit guilt in order to obtain a pardon. Trump will never admit guilt.

“Can’t I just declare presidential bankruptcy?”
“No, sir, the public already did that.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:43:19am

re: #259 garzooma

The MAGA juror voted to convict on all counts. It was a different juror that held out on the 10 counts where they couldn’t reach a verdict.

Wait, what, dang that was confusing.

Yup, I misread the article, which from the headline at least made it seem as if the MAGA juror was the holdout. Apparently she wasn’t.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:43:50am

Anyway yesterday Dean Obidallah was making a forceful argument that the Constitution does not make the President above the law, and Trump should be indicted for his crimes, even if Congress won’t impeach him. I’m inclined to agree. My only hesitation is that it would be an invitation to wingnut state AGs to invent all sorts of “crimes” to indict the next Democratic President for, so she spends her entire term in office defending herself in various state courts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:45:40am

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:47:16am

re: #259 garzooma

The MAGA juror voted to convict on all counts. It was a different juror that held out on the 10 counts where the couldn’t reach a verdict.

Thanks, I misread that.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:47:51am

re: #260 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Noone on the right seems to understand that one must admit guilt in order to obtain a pardon. Trump will never admit guilt.

Did Nixon accept guilt?

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plansbandc  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:47:56am

re: #163 austin_blue

My dad loved A-Basin too. Broke his ankle at Loveland. Ah, skiing in Colorado. <3

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:49:43am

re: #251 makeitstop

Not to mention that Pence could end up being an unindicted co-conspirator too, before this is all over.

Manafort picked Pence. Why?

And as I always remind…Pence was on the political scrap heat. Manafort resurrected his career. And that makes your comment even more important. Some dealing was made there and it probably is dirty as hell.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:49:52am

Charles, and lots of you guys post some really good music

so how the hell did this nonsense creep into my head and wont stop?

YouTube

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:49:56am

I read somewhere this morning this take:

‘It’s almost like Trump knows the economy will inevitable crater and he’s actively pushing for impeachment so that he can get out without taking the blame.’

I don’t think Trump’s ego would allow him to not fight impeachment, but I do see him starting the hedge on the economy while using as leverage the way a mobster would: “nice economy you have here, it’d be a shame….”

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:52:10am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:52:42am

this is not a how a rational, sane, coherent person constructs sentences:

Said Trump:

“I’ve known all about flipping—for 30 or 40 years I’ve been watching flippers. I’ve seen it many times, I’ve had many friends involved in this stuff, it’s called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal…”

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:53:08am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:54:14am

re: #274 dangerman

this is not a how a rational, sane, coherent person constructs sentences:

Said Trump:

Spoken like a true mobster.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:54:59am

re: #273 JordanRules

“Hey, Donnie, don’t change the subject.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:55:35am

re: #274 dangerman

this is not a how a rational, sane, coherent person constructs sentences:

Said Trump:

LOCK UP THE FLIPPERS

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:57:23am

re: #268 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Did Nixon accept guilt?

Well, the Nixon “pardon” wasn’t an actual pardon. He’d never been convicted of anything. It was just a promise not to prosecute him.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:57:47am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

LOCK UP THE FLIPPERS

LOCK THE FLIPS! FLIP THE LOCKS!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:57:56am

re: #273 JordanRules

Well, all they have to do is feed some outrage to Faux News, which Marmalade Shitcannon will watch, and then tweet about it.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:58:09am

re: #270 ObserverArt

And as I always remind…Pence was on the political scrap heat. Manafort resurrected his career. And that makes your comment even more important. Some dealing was made there and it probably is dirty as hell.

Manafort even shivved Christie when it looked like Trump was about to pick him, with that phony story about something being wrong with the plane in order to get Trump to stay in Indiana for another day so Pence could give him one more pitch.

(Sorry for the run-on sentence.)

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 6:59:00am

Missed this hashtag yesterday

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:00:14am

re: #271 dangerman

Charles, and lots of you guys post some really good music

so how the hell did this nonsense creep into my head and wont stop?

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Video

The song is lame, but damn, I want that guitar.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:01:09am

re: #282 makeitstop

Manafort even shivved Christie when it looked like Trump was about to pick him, with that phony story about something being wrong with the plane in order to get Trump to stay in Indiana for another day so Pence could give him one more pitch.

(Sorry for the run-on sentence.)

Manafort really, really wanted Pence and I really, really wanna know why.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:02:11am

Hmmmm…

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:04:15am

Here is your nice time, feel good story of the day:
Daughter of German Nazis Moves to Israel, Becomes Jewish, Devotes Herself to Saving Lives

The Daughter of Nazis Becomes an Israeli Lifesaver

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:04:42am

re: #285 JordanRules

Manafort really, really wanted Pence and I really, really wanna know why.

If Chris Christie had been the veep pick, you think his not running away from Obama after Sandy might have cost them a critical few thousand votes?

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:04:57am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:06:40am

re: #288 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Chris Christie had been the veep pick, you think his not running away from Obama after Sandy might have cost them a critical few thousand votes?

No, I really don’t. If he was anointed by Trump and gave some racist winks I don’t think he’d be that much of a drag.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:06:54am

re: #289 Ace-o-aces

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So plea bargaining is a new concept to him as well. What isn’t a new concept to him?

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:08:00am
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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:08:23am

re: #288 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Chris Christie had been the veep pick, you think his not running away from Obama after Sandy might have cost them a critical few thousand votes?

I don’t think that’s it, although it might have had some small effect.

I think a closer look at Pence’s entanglements with certain fundie groups might hold the answer. Pence sees kindred souls among the Russian religious cults.

He probably got hooked up with Russian end-timers through one of those nutjobs that are always saying crazy shit on Right Wing Watch.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:08:58am

re: #228 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

So Manafort would have been convicted of all 18 counts if it weren’t for one MAGA moron jury member:

dailykos.com

Oh brother….not impartial at all!!!

Except Duncan did her job and despite her predisposed bias, she found Manafort guilty on all counts. She listened to the judicial instructions and the evidence and did not engage in jury nullification as happened recently with some high profile cases.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:09:41am

re: #228 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

So Manafort would have been convicted of all 18 counts if it weren’t for one MAGA moron jury member:

dailykos.com

Oh brother….not impartial at all!!!

And still she voted to convict.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:10:16am

re: #288 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Chris Christie had been the veep pick, you think his not running away from Obama after Sandy might have cost them a critical few thousand votes?

No.

The fix was in.

Christie would have endlessly been yelling “Lock Her Up”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:11:27am

re: #293 makeitstop

I don’t think that’s it, although it might have had some small effect.

I think a closer look at Pence’s entanglements with certain fundie groups might hold the answer. Pence sees kindred souls among the Russian religious cults.

He probably got hooked up with Russian end-timers through one of those nutjobs that are always saying crazy shit on Right Wing Watch.

I didn’t mean that that’s why Christie wasn’t chosen, just speculating about if he had been. Yeah, the whole Manafort/Pence thing stinks—and from past experience we know a Vice-President can be indicted for sure.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:13:27am

re: #283 Stanley Sea

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:14:30am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:14:36am

re: #296 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

The fix was in.

Christie would have endlessly been yelling “Lock Her Up”.

And playing Springsteen songs at campaign rallies despite numerous cease-and-desist orders.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:16:10am

re: #291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So plea bargaining is a new concept to him as well. What isn’t a new concept to him?

Oh, no. He’s very familiar with flipping. His mob buddies talk about it all the time.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:17:48am

First he brings up burgers, and now bacon, as if they are bad things. Pfft!
You’re doing this wrong coward.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:19:25am

re: #288 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Chris Christie had been the veep pick, you think his not running away from Obama after Sandy might have cost them a critical few thousand votes?

No — that would not have cost critical votes. However, Christie’s lack of enthusiasm for the whole evangelical social/cultural agenda may have harmed the ticket.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:22:35am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Trump’s grasping at straws and trying to deflect and project as always.

It just feels a bit more desperate today because his two buddies - Manafort and Cohen are now convicted felons thanks to actions taken on behalf of Trump or exposed thanks to their relations to Trump.

Everyone around Trump is complicit and compromised. The remaining questions are what crimes were committed, how many indictments, plea deals, convictions, and pardons are still to be done.

Trump needs to deflect and project. He needs for his base to continue to buy in to his baffling BS. He needs to gin up the white nationalist/white supremacist bulkshit that keeps his base engaged.

That’s why he’s talking about South Africa.

That’s why his admin is fixated on the death of Mollie.

That’s why DeVos is fixated on trying to divert education funds to allow teachers to buy guns with it (instead of buying actual school supplies that students need and often need fundraisers to get).

It’s all about pushing fear and loathing to get the GOP base to do the bidding of the elite GOP millionaires, which is fixated like a laser beam on tax cuts for themselves and burden shifting to everyone else.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:27:50am

Brave Sir Cornyn:

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:28:08am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And playing Springsteen songs at campaign rallies despite numerous cease-and-desist orders.

And speaking of which - good on Aerosmith for sending the White House that C&D yesterday.

I saw the post here, but I was in the middle of a park in Connecticut getting ready for a show and couldn’t log in to respond.

The (former) Toxic Twins did the right thing.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:29:04am

Just giving her some motivation.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:29:13am

LOL
He never let’s Beauregard breathe.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:31:51am

Her grift is pretty goofy.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:33:46am

re: #302 JordanRules

First he brings up burgers, and now bacon, as if they are bad things. Pfft!
You’re doing this wrong coward.

I hadn’t watched that video. What a brilliant answer.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:34:16am

re: #274 dangerman

this is not a how a rational, sane, coherent person constructs sentences:

Said Trump:

Its how a Mob Boss talks. Imagine an innocent person saying that criminals shouldn’t be allowed to testify against their co-conspirators.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:35:02am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:36:26am

Well damn!!!

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:37:19am

Mob bosses know when to shut up.

Mob bosses have far more competent counsel.

Trump is neither competent nor knows when to STFU.

Everything he says gets him in deeper trouble, and his only reaction to bad news is to project/deflect/lie more.

He’s aiming squarely at his bigot brigade base, because that’s all he has left.

He doesn’t have support anywhere else, and if the base begins to crumble, the craven and cowardly GOP in Congress might begin to consider alternatives (though they’re still full metal GOPers who will push their judicial nominees through since it means shifting the balance on the courts for decades to come even if Trump is eventually removed from office via impeachment).

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:39:28am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:39:47am

OT: speaking of mobsters, I’m late to but loving the podcast series one of “Crimetown” on Providence, RI. Excellent stuff.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:40:51am

re: #292 JordanRules

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Idiot doesn’t understand that the BS spewed on Fox News has nothing to do with the law in reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:43:22am

re: #317 Big Beautiful Door

Idiot doesn’t understand that the BS spewed on Fox News has nothing to do with the law in reality.

I suspect that he does, but most of his base does not.

He can only flee forward and get more outrageous in his claims, words and actions and hope that his party continues to back him out of desperation.

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:44:16am

re: #236 Dave In Austin

Has anyone seen Mike Pence? And what is he doing?

Measuring the drapes in the oval office.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:45:37am

re: #285 JordanRules

Manafort really, really wanted Pence and I really, really wanna know why.

Well, we know the Evangelical types were already working with Putin. Pence may have been an addition to all that to help fight Muslim and gays or something. Chris Christie would not have been usable in that way. Pence? Stopping gays and Muslims…sign me up, what do I have to do?

Also, even the Russians may have been able to identify Pence is an idiot and useful where Christie is too much a wild card.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:47:48am

re: #320 ObserverArt

Well, we know the Evangelical types were already working with Putin. Pence may have been an addition to all that to help fight Muslim and gays or something. Chris Christie would not have been usable in that way. Pence? Stopping gays and Muslim…sign me up, what do I have to do?

Also, even the Russians may have been able to identify Pence is an idiot and useful where Christie is too much a wild card.

I even admired Christie for standing up to critics of his nomination of a Muslim judge and working together with Obama on Sandy relief.

Not that I would support him, but those acts alone were enough to make him persona non grata to the GOP base

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:47:55am

re: #275 JordanRules

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He’s finally going to achieve one of the lies he repeated over and over about having the most Time covers.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:50:42am

This is why all those who are pushing to replace Pelosi should take a number of seats.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:52:15am

Both are related.

Cohen’s going to watch his fortune get seized, sold off, and will be left with nothing at the end of the day.

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:55:45am

re: #309 JordanRules

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Her grift is pretty goofy.

Does she always stand with the one hand on the outwardly thrusted hip?

I’ve seen her in several images now standing like that. It’s the “well!” pose…like don’t bring that stuff around here.

She is a real piece of work. I image Kent State would like to see her move along.

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:56:17am

re: #291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So plea bargaining is a new concept to him as well. What isn’t a new concept to him?

When I first read the quote, I thought he was talking about real estate flipping. No, it didn’t make any sense, but it wouldn’t have been beyond the pale for him to ramble off into the wilderness mid-sentence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:57:08am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

No — that would not have cost critical votes. However, Christie’s lack of enthusiasm for the whole evangelical social/cultural agenda may have harmed the ticket.

And there was the whole bridgegate scandal, which pretty much ended Christie’s political career. You generally don’t select a VP who brings a whole bunch of his own baggage to the ticket.

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:57:23am

re: #324 lawhawk

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

I couldn’t agree more.

I don’t think any US President will ever see the inside of a jail, not even Trump, but I think he’ll be ruined, his organization bankrupted, his children jailed and he’ll die alone, unmourned and unloved, in some kind of home for dementia patients. I sometimes wonder if he gets brief flashes of that.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:57:38am

re: #324 lawhawk

Cohen’s going to watch his fortune get seized, sold off, and will be left with nothing at the end of the day.

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

I want that so bad. I’d go stand in front of Trump Tower and cheer as his name was pried off the building.

I want him ruined as badly as he is ruining this country.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:59:10am

re: #322 BeachDem

He’s finally going to achieve one of the lies he repeated over and over about having the most Time covers.

And…he doesn’t have to fake them!

Win Win.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 7:59:22am

re: #328 Lupin

I couldn’t agree more.

I don’t think any US President will ever see the inside of a jail, not even Trump, but I think he’ll be ruined, his organization bankrupted, his children jailed and he’ll die alone, unmourned and unloved, in some kind of home for dementia patients. I sometimes wonder if he gets brief flashes of that.

He will continue to make a career out of speeches and TV appearances. Everyone who was associated with him will be ruined…in other words, business as usual for Donald Trump.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:00:34am

re: #327 Big Beautiful Door

And there was the whole bridgegate scandal, which pretty much ended Christie’s political career. You generally don’t select a VP who brings a whole bunch of his own baggage to the ticket.

He was merely faked plane trouble away from being VP on that ticket.

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:02:23am

re: #309 JordanRules

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Her grift is pretty goofy.

Kind of “But enough about me, what do YOU think of me?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:02:45am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will continue to make a career out of speeches and TV appearances. Everyone who was associated with him will be ruined…in other words, business as usual for Donald Trump.

At least through 2024, FAUX will present an alternate reality where he’s the Real President™, regardless of who’s actually sitting in the Oval Office.

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:02:56am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will continue to make a career out of speeches and TV appearances. Everyone who was associated with him will be ruined…in other words, business as usual for Donald Trump.

Not at all. The combination of his name being mud, the stench of failure all around him, and even more likely, his rapidly declining mental faculties, will not make this possible. He might have become a kind of “elder statesman” after an interval of 5 - 10 years, but he doesn’t have that time ahead of him. I stand by my projection: him dying alone in a home.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:03:46am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:05:12am

I need a new planet. This is unconscionable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:06:04am

re: #335 Lupin

Not at all. The combination of his name being mud, the stench of failure all around him, and even more likely, his rapidly declining mental faculties, will not make this possible. He might have become a kind of “elder statesman” after an interval of 5 - 10 years, but he doesn’t have that time ahead of him. I stand by my projection: him dying alone in a home.

I see him more as a Jefferson Davis figure: some rich benefactors will take him in and remain loyal to him for the “service” he did for America.

Remember, Trump has turned all the rules and expectations of politics, government and decent social interaction on their heads. I do not expect that go away completely when he leaves office.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:06:29am

re: #335 Lupin

Not at all. The combination of his name being mud, the stench of failure all around him, and even more likely, his rapidly declining mental facilities, will not make this possible.

Yep. Let’s remember how Republicans have no compunctions about completely disowning one of their own.

GW Bush is the latest example, after the hash he made of the WOT.

Add to that the fact that any R running for office is going to have to run full-speed away from Trump once all those secrets come out. They’ll all be saying ‘Donald Who??’

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:06:38am

re: #324 lawhawk

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Both are related.

Cohen’s going to watch his fortune get seized, sold off, and will be left with nothing at the end of the day.

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

We will find out that he doesn’t have a penny to his name. That all the properties he allegedly “owns” belong to Russian oligarchs. That he is deep in hock to them, from the time that he first went to (what was then) the USSR and attempted to pull off his usual scam and found out that the Mafiya does not like to be fucked with.

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:08:18am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see him more as a Jefferson Davis figure: some rich benefactors will take him in and remain loyal to him for the “service” he did for America.

Remember, Trump has turned all the rules and expectations of politics, government and decent social interaction on their heads. I do not expect that go away completely when he leaves office.

I agree in part — I think he will be “taken care of” — not sleep under a bridge! :-) But you’re not factoring enough (IMHO) his mental decline. Project a Reagan scenario, if you will, but without Nancy, no family to speak of, no empire left.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:09:06am

re: #324 lawhawk

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Both are related.

Cohen’s going to watch his fortune get seized, sold off, and will be left with nothing at the end of the day.

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

And what will be the one way Cohen can support his family when he gets out of the stir? Write a tell-all book about Trump.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:10:41am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see him more as a Jefferson Davis figure: some rich benefactors will take him in and remain loyal to him for the “service” he did for America.

Remember, Trump has turned all the rules and expectations of politics, government and decent social interaction on their heads. I do not expect that go away completely when he leaves office.

Hell, even Jeff Davis spent some time in the hoosegow—not nearly enough of course. I suspect the Orange Pustule never will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:11:16am

re: #332 JordanRules

He was merely faked plane trouble away from being VP on that ticket.

I wish he had; it might’ve cost Trump just enough votes to lose.

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:13:06am

The ultimate fate of Trump is in any event a footnote. What truly matters is the damage he has caused — and will still be causing for a while — to the United States at home and (from my selfish standpoint) abroad, which I think is irreparable.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:13:16am

First part of the empire shuttered?

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:15:28am

re: #346 JordanRules

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First part of the empire shuttered?

Like an onion, the more they peel the more they’ll cry.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:15:29am

re: #346 JordanRules

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First part of the empire shuttered?

Womp womp

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:19:15am

re: #346 JordanRules

First part of the empire shuttered?

When they’re in jail, I hope they all remind Trump that none of this would have happened if he had not needed to retaliate against Obama.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:19:24am

Yuck Mouth tells DoJ to ‘wake up’ and indict Hillary.

They’re way more awake than you think, old man.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:21:28am

re: #350 makeitstop

Yuck Mouth tells DoJ to ‘wake up’ and indict Hillary.

They’re way more awake than you think, old man.

Um, they didn’t hide it, and paying a non-government for services is legal, Rudy.

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Lupin  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:22:53am

re: #351 Belafon

Um, they didn’t hide it, and paying a non-government for services is legal, Rudy.

By the time this is over there won’t be enough popcorn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:23:56am

re: #351 Belafon

Um, they didn’t hide it, and paying a non-government for services is legal, Rudy.

All they can do is feed the Base more bullshit, as the walls close in.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:25:19am

This is dead brilliant: If Trump shot Michael Cohen in broad daylight, here’s what Republicans would say

Rick Wilson is jealous.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:25:57am

re: #308 JordanRules

LOL
He never let’s Beauregard breathe.

“The only reason I gave him the job, because I felt loyalty. He was an original supporter. He was on the campaign.” — Trump on why he picked Jeff Sessions to be Attorney Genera

NOT because he was capable of doing the job

//only the best people//

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:27:41am

re: #311 Big Beautiful Door

Its how a Mob Boss talks. Imagine an innocent person saying that criminals shouldn’t be allowed to testify against their co-conspirators.

of course …

i was actually fixating on him using the word flip - over and over and over and then saying “it’s called flipping”

its child like though construction

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:29:02am

re: #314 lawhawk

Mob bosses know when to shut up.

Mob bosses have far more competent counsel.

Trump is neither competent nor knows when to STFU.

Everything he says gets him in deeper trouble, and his only reaction to bad news is to project/deflect/lie more.

He’s aiming squarely at his bigot brigade base, because that’s all he has left.

He doesn’t have support anywhere else, and if the base begins to crumble, the craven and cowardly GOP in Congress might begin to consider alternatives (though they’re still full metal GOPers who will push their judicial nominees through since it means shifting the balance on the courts for decades to come even if Trump is eventually removed from office via impeachment).

what remails is truly going to look sad and pitiful

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:30:05am

re: #315 Ace-o-aces

Sessions: got job because of “loyalty”@OMAROSA: got job because Trump felt sorry.
He ever consider hiring people who are, you know, qualified?

he said the same thing about omarosa maginot line

“she cried at me” …so i made her a special assistant to the president of the united states

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:32:18am

re: #328 Lupin

That’s what worries Trump more than anything else. His entire house of cards real estate empire is likely to end up the same way - as the criminal charges continue to flow in.

I couldn’t agree more.

I don’t think any US President will ever see the inside of a jail, not even Trump, but I think he’ll be ruined, his organization bankrupted, his children jailed and he’ll die alone, unmourned and unloved, in some kind of home for dementia patients. I sometimes wonder if he gets brief flashes of that.

“i was in vaudeville”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:32:33am
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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:35:00am

Over on a guitar forum I belong to, there was a discussion about Greta Van Fleet and their ‘inheriting’ (or stealing) Led Zeppelin’s legacy.

Someone posted this video, by the band Crobot. This kid’s got pipes that are a cross between Robert Plant and Chris Cornell. Pretty awesome.

Crobot - Nowhere to Hide (Official)

They’re out of Pottsville, PA - right up the road from where I grew up. I’m eagerly awaiting their next album, which should be out next month.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:40:19am

re: #350 makeitstop

Yuck Mouth tells DoJ to ‘wake up’ and indict Hillary.

If there is any justice left at DOJ why is payment by Hillary Clinton and DNC to FusionGPS for the phony Steele dossier not under investigation. On your theory in Cohen plea it’s an illegal campaign contribution.Let’s go DOJ wake up. where’s the indictment. Clintons not above law

They’re way more awake than you think, old man.

rudy,
the payments were expenditures BY the dnc and clinton campaigns. on their books.

trump/cohen payments to daniels (et al?) were in-kind contributions because they were paid on behalf of the trump campaign and NOT by the trump campaign. AND THEN NOT REPORTED TO THE CAMPAIGN AND/OR FEC

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:42:20am

This is what happens to whistleblowers who exposes Russian interference into U.S. elections.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:42:59am

re: #362 dangerman

rudy,
the payments were expenditures BY the dnc and clinton campaigns. on their books.

trump/cohen payments to daniels (et al?) were in-kind contributions because they were paid on behalf of the trump campaign and NOT by the trump campaign. AND THEN NOT REPORTED TO THE CAMPAIGN AND/OR FEC

And he’s got to get the word “phony” in there: “the phony Steele dossier”. Please explain what was “phony” about it, Rudy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:43:36am

re: #364 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And he’s got to get the word “phony” in there: “the phony Steele dossier”. Please explain what was “phony” about it, Rudy.

Phony is not phony

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:43:42am

re: #363 DodgerFan1988

Especially when you release them to an amateur media company rather than an established company.

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austin_blue  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:44:40am

re: #271 dangerman

Charles, and lots of you guys post some really good music

so how the hell did this nonsense creep into my head and wont stop?

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Video

Damn you! Earworms…

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:44:43am

re: #363 DodgerFan1988

Former NSA contractor Reality Winner was sentenced to 63 months in prison for leaking information about Russian election hacking to the press thebea.st

This is what happens to whistleblowers who exposes Russian interference into U.S. elections.

so much Winn(er)ing

(sorry)

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danarchy  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:48:12am

re: #363 DodgerFan1988

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This is what happens to whistleblowers who exposes Russian interference into U.S. elections.

Sorry, the FBI was already investigating this. Whistle blowing is for when the government is covering something up or ignoring it. Whistle blowing is for when the government is not taking appropriate action. Whistle blowing is for when you can’t get redress from the proper channels. Is there any evidence Winner did anything through proper channels before deciding to make some juicy intelligence public?

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:49:52am

re: #361 makeitstop

Over on a guitar forum I belong to, there was a discussion about Greta Van Fleet and their ‘inheriting’ (or stealing) Led Zeppelin’s legacy.

Someone posted this video, by the band Crobot. This kid’s got pipes that are a cross between Robert Plant and Chris Cornell. Pretty awesome.

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They’re out of Pottsville, PA - right up the road from where I grew up. I’m eagerly awaiting their next album, which should be out next month.

Mind if I ask for a link to that forum? Sounds like it might be a fun place to check out.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:53:17am

re: #370 ObserverArt

Mind if I ask for a link to that forum? Sounds like it might be a fun place to check out.

TDPRI.com - mainly started to talk about the Fender Telecaster, but there’s an awful lot of good music discussion there.

I used to belong to the My Les Paul forum, but they don’t moderate very well and the place got overrun by wingnuts with guitars. TDPRI has a hard and fast rule - no politics, no religion, no drugs.

It’s a nice escape when I need to turn off the Trump shitshow for a while. Go join and let me know your user name!

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:53:56am
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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:55:51am

SNL Black Jeopardy

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:56:54am

re: #286 JordanRules

Hmmmm…

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I have been saying that for years. Murdoch has ties to Russia. It was Murdoch’s rags that drove the Yes vote in Brexit and, well, Fox News.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:56:58am

re: #369 danarchy

Sorry, the FBI was already investigating this. Whistle blowing is for when the government is covering something up or ignoring it. Whistle blowing is for when the government is not taking appropriate action. Whistle blowing is for when you can’t get redress from the proper channels. Is there any evidence Winner did anything through proper channels before deciding to make some juicy intelligence public?

That reminds me a bit of the Snowden incident.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:57:05am

re: #369 danarchy

Sorry, the FBI was already investigating this. Whistle blowing is for when the government is covering something up or ignoring it. Whistle blowing is for when the government is not taking appropriate action. Whistle blowing is for when you can’t get redress from the proper channels. Is there any evidence Winner did anything through proper channels before deciding to make some juicy intelligence public?

People can be using the more informal, non-legal definition like when many folks say treason.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:58:21am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:59:10am
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electrotek  Aug 23, 2018 • 8:59:51am

This self-loathing pendejo has quite the nerve here:

Pacheco, who told the magazine he was a gay Latino immigrant, defended his actions.

“I am cooperating with the police investigation,” Pacheco said. “I don’t feel I’ve done anything wrong based on the laws and the circumstances of what happened.”

He suggested the investigation was tilted against him because the alleged victims were “white middle-aged people,” and he complained that he was being “demonized” as a “neo-Nazi.”

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:01:21am

re: #292 JordanRules

on a fox news show, the president boasted about getting his defense strategies from fox news shows

This is a direct tie in to Russia. I have said, repeatedly, that Murdoch has ties to Russia. Murdoch’s consigliere was Ailes. Ailes was part of the trump team. They all, every last one of them, have ties to Russia.

Murdoch has been trying to buy the largest European news outlet, Sky News, for years.

These are coordinated attacks on democracy worldwide.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:03:16am

re: #371 makeitstop

TDPRI.com - mainly started to talk about the Fender Telecaster, but there’s an awful lot of good music discussion there.

I used to belong to the My Les Paul forum, but they don’t moderate very well and the place got overrun by wingnuts with guitars. TDPRI has a hard and fast rule - no politics, no religion, no drugs.

It’s a nice escape when I need to turn off the Trump shitshow for a while. Go join and let me know your user name!

I’ll check it out. I don’t know if I will join though, but if I do I will let you know. I just like to read some discussions like I do on some racing forums.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:04:38am

re: #381 ObserverArt

I’ll check it out. I don’t know if I will join though, but if I do I will let you know. I just like to read some discussions like I do on some racing forums.

Cool. I usually hang out in the ‘Other Guitars, Other Instruments’ forum, because I have, umm, other guitars and other instruments. :)

My handle there is StrangerNY.

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austin_blue  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:04:47am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I even admired Christie for standing up to critics of his nomination of a Muslim judge and working together with Obama on Sandy relief.

Not that I would support him, but those acts alone were enough to make him persona non grata to the GOP base

I think that this is spot on. In addition, the RR was leery of Drumpf because he’s too secular (He doesn’t really worship God, believing that God worships Him). Pence shored up this part of the Base, which was absolutely crucial in the election.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:04:53am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:05:40am

For 8 years, the right invented conspiracy theories and stories about Obama to claim he was the “most corrupt POTUS ever”. Today, unequivocally and objectively, we have the most the corrupt POTUS ever and the right are in complete denial. Fucking idiots. Every one of them.

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:12:18am

On a scale of 1 to infinity, it rates a -2, but I smile when finally, someone mentions Melon’s ridiculous ensemble for her bebest cyber snoozer speech:

Melanie also didn’t help her case any by seeming to forget how jackets work. Lady, it’s not a cape. You’re not the “Batgirl of cyberbullying.” Put your arms through the sleeves. It’ll work much better.

Thank you, Stephen Robinson. Heh.

wonkette.com

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William Lewis  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:12:23am

re: #371 makeitstop

TDPRI.com - mainly started to talk about the Fender Telecaster, but there’s an awful lot of good music discussion there.

I used to belong to the My Les Paul forum, but they don’t moderate very well and the place got overrun by wingnuts with guitars. TDPRI has a hard and fast rule - no politics, no religion, no drugs.

It’s a nice escape when I need to turn off the Trump shitshow for a while. Go join and let me know your user name!

YES! The best music place on the web. And the Les Paul place has really gone down the tube.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:13:30am

re: #373 gocart mozart

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Hahahaha.

For those that may not be familiar with the “potato salad” Black Jeopardy reference here is the YouTube of that segment. It was pretty fun.

Black Jeopardy with Chadwick Boseman - SNL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:14:51am

re: #383 austin_blue

I think that this is spot on. In addition, the RR was leery of Drumpf because he’s too secular (He doesn’t really worship God, believing that God worships Him). Pence shored up this part of the Base, which was absolutely crucial in the election.

I thought that, too, but they really do not seem to care, they are are twisted enough to accept him as an “imperfect vessel of God’s Divine Will”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:15:00am

The right is seething about the Mollie Tibbetts’ murder, but where is the fake right-wing outrage over the Donnie supporter that set half of California on fire?

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:17:23am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

For 8 years, the right invented conspiracy theories and stories about Obama to claim he was the “most corrupt POTUS ever”. Today, unequivocally and objectively, we have the most the corrupt POTUS ever and the right are in complete denial. Fucking idiots. Every one of them.

Pulled this from a Trumper on FB. Hidden because lack of paragraph wall of text.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:18:42am

re: #374 MsJ

I have been saying that for years. Murdoch has ties to Russia. It was Murdoch’s rags that drove the Yes vote in Brexit and, well, Fox News.

And if you are watching news out of Australia…it is in a mess and looking like the government is breaking up.

I mentioned in the past that I have a client that lives in Australia and comes here for a few months every year to check on his business in Columbus that I do some design work for.

We met last week and I asked him what’s up in their politics and he said it was as crazy as everywhere. He said they used to have a pretty good centrist government, but since Trump and Brexit and all that is going on in Europe they are now splitting into far left and far right and it’s messing the country up socially.

Meanwhile Murdoch counts his filthy money as he watches it burn…

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:19:22am

re: #387 William Lewis

YES! The best music place on the web. And the Les Paul place has really gone down the tube.

MLP has some pretty valuable information on vintage Les Pauls, and there are a few guys there who know their shit and don’t get into the other crap that they allow there.

Their off-topic forum is the 4chan for guitarists with small brains. I bailed 8 years ago and never went back.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:20:01am

re: #378 JordanRules

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someone at verizon - at the time - sat at a desk and made this decision
thought it was a good idea AND did not count on publicity

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:22:24am

re: #380 MsJ

This is a direct tie in to Russia. I have said, repeatedly, that Murdoch has ties to Russia. Murdoch’s consigliere was Ailes. Ailes was part of the trump team. They all, every last one of them, have ties to Russia.

Murdoch has been trying to buy the largest European news outlet, Sky News, for years.

These are coordinated attacks on democracy worldwide.

QFT

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:25:09am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:26:25am
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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:27:25am

re: #346 JordanRules

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First part of the empire shuttered?

She has a new brand that doesn’t have her name attached to it.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:28:00am

Trump’s trying to push Sessions aside.

Sessions was one of the first to endorse Trump (Collins and Hunter were 1/2). That means it’s only a matter of time before Sessions is also indicted on federal charges (and no this isn’t sarcasm - Sessions has knowledge of meetings, engaged in contacts with Russian foreign agents and lied about it, and lied to Congress during his confirmation hearing).

So, Trump’ll dump Sessions and then find someone to be AG - which puts him in even greater legal jeopardy as Sessions himself could be a focus of Mueller and other federal prosecutors as this progresses.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:28:46am

as an aside, let’s remember something about the mueller investigation every time someone spouts “see no collusion” - like re manafort and cohen

there are three essential parts:

- whether / how the Russian government interefered in the election
- any possible link/coordination between Trump’s campaign and the Russian government
- other matters that may arise or be uncovered

the first one is the primary one - it’s the big one
that’s the threat to the nation and the driver behind the whole thing

this is not an investigation of trump or the trump campaign
and it was not designed to accuse, indict, or clear trump or the campaign

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:29:03am

re: #391 BigPapa

Pulled this from a Trumper on FB. Hidden because lack of paragraph wall of text.

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Holy crap, I saw pretty much the exact same list of things from a guy on FB who was asked to explain how Trump is making America Great Again, just about word for word.

Is there some kind of download site where they all go to get their talking points?

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:30:53am

re: #386 BeachDem

On a scale of 1 to infinity, it rates a -2, but I smile when finally, someone mentions Melon’s ridiculous ensemble for her bebest cyber snoozer speech:

Melanie also didn’t help her case any by seeming to forget how jackets work. Lady, it’s not a cape. You’re not the “Batgirl of cyberbullying.” Put your arms through the sleeves. It’ll work much better.

Thank you, Stephen Robinson. Heh.

wonkette.com

someone wrote a story the other day about those “pussy bows” she wears and how they are somehow significant

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:31:22am

re: #398 MsJ

She has a new brand that doesn’t have her name attached to it.

Ahhh. The Blackwater boogie. Should have known.
Do you know the name of the brand?

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:31:33am

re: #399 lawhawk

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Trump’s trying to push Sessions aside.

And Lindsey is angling for the gig. I remember when he didn’t like Trump…

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:32:28am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

For 8 years, the right invented conspiracy theories and stories about Obama to claim he was the “most corrupt POTUS ever”. Today, unequivocally and objectively, we have the most the corrupt POTUS ever and the right are in complete denial. Fucking idiots. Every one of them.

theatlantic.com
Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt

The answer may lie in how Trump and his supporters define corruption. In a forthcoming book titled How Fascism Works, the Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley makes an intriguing claim. “Corruption, to the fascist politician,” he suggests, “is really about the corruption of purity rather than of the law. Officially, the fascist politician’s denunciations of corruption sound like a denunciation of political corruption. But such talk is intended to evoke corruption in the sense of the usurpation of the traditional order.”

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:32:52am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:32:56am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought that, too, but they really do not seem to care, they are are twisted enough to accept him as an “imperfect vessel of God’s Divine Will”

now yes
theyve gotten comfortable that things still chug along and there are rationalizations they can use that seem to work

back then, they needed reassurance and convincing

we are not the only people who wonder whether trump ever paid for an abortion

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:33:00am

re: #399 lawhawk

Donnie and his 4D chess: Donnie picks Sessions to become AG. Sessions seat is taken over by the Democrats. Donnie fires Sessions.

Bravo.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:34:10am

re: #403 JordanRules

Ahhh. The Blackwater boogie. Should have known.
Do you know the name of the brand?

Some fake-ass Italian name, I think.

I checked. Yep, Adrienne Vittadini. Wotta scam.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:35:04am

re: #391 BigPapa

Pulled this from a Trumper on FB. Hidden because lack of paragraph wall of text.

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prove it
any of it
with specifics

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sagehen  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:36:12am

re: #390 Dr. Matt

The right is seething about the Mollie Tibbetts’ murder, but where is the fake right-wing outrage over the Donnie supporter that set half of California on fire?

since all of California is going to burn in hell someday, this was a preview that might help turn some hearts to righteousness. he did y’all a favor

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:37:27am

re: #391 BigPapa

Pulled this from a Trumper on FB. Hidden because lack of paragraph wall of text.

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Devoted cultism

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:38:02am

re: #401 makeitstop

Yeah, they copy/paste from other sites. I’ve busted that Trumper before.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:38:27am

re: #403 JordanRules

Ahhh. The Blackwater boogie. Should have known.
Do you know the name of the brand?

Well, it’s interesting. The brand name is Adrienne Vittadini and Snopes rates it mostly false, but when you read the article, I find it hard to understand why. They are rebranding the Ivanka brand with the Vittadini label (removing labels and putting new labels on her stock because the name sucks so bad), so, perhaps it is that she doesn’t own the Vittadini brand but it is just being used to sell her shit.

I call this same shit with a different label, both for her crappy lines and the concept that it’s not being sold under a different label.

snopes.com

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:38:55am

Trump’s morning ritual

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:39:19am

re: #409 makeitstop

Some fake-ass Italian name, I think.

I checked. Yep, Adrienne Vittadini. Wotta scam.

That’s an old reputable brand that I’m familiar with. Lil Kim even invoked them in one of her songs in the 90s. Used to have some cache.
Sounds like Steinmart was just trying to get rid of old inventory with one of their relabeling schemes.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:39:39am

re: #413 BigPapa

Yeah, they copy/paste from other sites. I’ve busted that Trumper before.

I haven’t done this, but copy and paste that rant into google. I’m sure the number of exact hits will be astounding.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:40:11am

re: #416 JordanRules

That’s an old reputable brand that I’m familiar with. Lil Kim even invoked them in one of her songs in the 90s. Used to have some cache.
Sounds like Steinmart was just trying to get rid of old inventory with one of their relabeling schemes.

Ah. Corrected, I stand. :)

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:40:17am

re: #405 sagehen

theatlantic.com
Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt

The answer may lie in how Trump and his supporters define corruption. In a forthcoming book titled How Fascism Works, the Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley makes an intriguing claim. “Corruption, to the fascist politician,” he suggests, “is really about the corruption of purity rather than of the law. Officially, the fascist politician’s denunciations of corruption sound like a denunciation of political corruption. But such talk is intended to evoke corruption in the sense of the usurpation of the traditional order.”

humpty dumpty speak
“When I use a word it means just what *I* choose it to mean”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:40:24am

re: #161 Kragar

“black stands for bravery”

Really? Interesting for White Supremacists to admit.

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:40:37am

And here we have Chuccubus the Rage Furby in the middle of another white nationalist related scrum:
Trump speechwriter’s ouster sparks racially charged debate
The Claremont Institute shuttered an email list after an exchange over white nationalism blew up.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:42:24am
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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:43:42am

BOOM:

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:43:50am

re: #390 Dr. Matt

I thought the right dropped her after seeing her “I hate white people” tweet.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:43:57am

re: #418 makeitstop

Ah. Corrected, I stand. :)

It’s not 100% clear what is going on here which I’m sure is by design.
I hope someone keeps an eye on her money laundering ventures though, because she really is unlikely to just walk away.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:44:57am

re: #422 goddamnedfrank

! Lindsey Graham says it’s “very likely” Trump will replace Jeff Sessions but warns him not to do so until AFTER the midterms.
Says president deserves to have an AG he has confidence in and it’s clear he does not have confidence in Sessions.

hey lindsey,

does “the president” have the right to his own supreme court nominations?

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:45:23am

re: #423 lawhawk

That infuriates me. That fucking pecker is part of this, lock, stock and barrel. As is the dickhead from TMZ.

GAH!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:46:02am

re: #422 goddamnedfrank

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Wow!! Lindsey is scum. He has no morals whatsoever. So he’s pretty much encouraging Trump to take steps towards shutting down Mueller’s investigation.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:46:36am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:47:12am

re: #423 lawhawk

BOOM:

BREAKING: National Enquirer boss David Pecker granted federal immunity in Michael Cohen case - Dow Jones

and the hits just keep on comin’

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:47:20am

re: #427 MsJ

That infuriates me. That fucking pecker is part of this, lock, stock and barrel. As is the dickhead from TMZ.

GAH!

Pecker is spilling his guts. I don’t mind the immunity given the fact that the information he is spilling to Mueller could help bring down Trump.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:48:54am

re: #427 MsJ

Pecker is low hanging fruit and not the target.

Low rungs get deals to implicate those higher up.

Prosecutors think Pecker has more information of note on people above - namely Trump personally and directly, and in ways that Cohen doesn’t.

That’s notable in and of itself. After all, if Pecker didn’t have noteworthy info to prosecutors, why would they bother with an immunity deal. They could prosecute him on the same kind of federal crimes as Cohen cut a deal on.

There’s more than meets the eye here.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:50:06am

Shout out to Charles

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:50:29am

re: #432 lawhawk

There’s more than meets the eye here.

Care to speculate?

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:50:55am

re: #399 lawhawk

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Trump’s trying to push Sessions aside.

Sessions was one of the first to endorse Trump (Collins and Hunter were 1/2). That means it’s only a matter of time before Sessions is also indicted on federal charges (and no this isn’t sarcasm - Sessions has knowledge of meetings, engaged in contacts with Russian foreign agents and lied about it, and lied to Congress during his confirmation hearing).

So, Trump’ll dump Sessions and then find someone to be AG - which puts him in even greater legal jeopardy as Sessions himself could be a focus of Mueller and other federal prosecutors as this progresses.

And Sessions would sell Trump down the river faster than he can send immigrants back over the border.

Jeff Sessions is a little snake and backstabber. No way he lets Trump off. In fact it would be pay-back city for the last year and a half of what Sessions would see as Trump abuse.

Trump doesn’t seem to realize all he is doing is creating more and more enemies as he goes. Which is probably what happened in all his businesses too.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:51:54am

trump on sessions:

“We have somebody who they seem to go after a lot of Republicans.”

He added that the inability of his attorney general to “control” his department was “a regrettable thing.”

gee, and here i thought the prisons filled with so many non-white prisoners (a supposedly good thing) was because they commit all the crimes

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:52:01am

re: #401 makeitstop

Holy crap, I saw pretty much the exact same list of things from a guy on FB who was asked to explain how Trump is making America Great Again, just about word for word.

Is there some kind of download site where they all go to get their talking points?

Fox News.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:53:04am

re: #432 lawhawk

Pecker is low hanging fruit and not the target.

Low rungs get deals to implicate those higher up.

Prosecutors think Pecker has more information of note on people above - namely Trump personally and directly, and in ways that Cohen doesn’t.

That’s notable in and of itself. After all, if Pecker didn’t have noteworthy info to prosecutors, why would they bother with an immunity deal. They could prosecute him on the same kind of federal crimes as Cohen cut a deal on.

There’s more than meets the eye here.

“this kind of flopping, er flipping against me should be illegal”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:53:40am

re: #429 lawhawk

And CNN and MSNBC will be using the impeachment word if the House flips in November. The Daily Caller is a joke.

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:53:59am

re: #434 MsJ

Trump and Pecker are longtime friends. Pecker may have more info on things Trump confided in him, or told him in “confidence” that could lead to other criminal charges.

Prosecutors don’t just grant immunity for the heck of it. They get something of value from it - because it advances a case.

It could be in the form of corroborating what Cohen said, which is plausible, and we’re learning about it now after Cohen’s guilty plea deal.

But it comes back to the same thing - Pecker had to offer something of value to get a deal.

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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:56:00am

Imagine how many enemies Trump has made in the FBI and intelligence community. There is a strong sense of duty to country over party. The slow moving wheel of justice will continue to turn.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:56:10am
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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:57:00am

re: #437 ObserverArt

Fox News.

Breitbart.

Daily Caller.

Etc., etc, etc.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:00:10am
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danarchy  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:01:16am

re: #416 JordanRules

That’s an old reputable brand that I’m familiar with. Lil Kim even invoked them in one of her songs in the 90s. Used to have some cache.
Sounds like Steinmart was just trying to get rid of old inventory with one of their relabeling schemes.

Yeah apparently the Adrienne Vittadini brand has been around since before Ivanka was born and Adrienne is still alive and kicking

en.wikipedia.org

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:02:22am

re: #423 lawhawk

BOOM:

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Trump to his friend David Pecker: “Et tu David!”

You are a friend of Trump and willing to help him out right up until you are staring FBI agents in the face who are asking questions you can no longer hide from.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:05:41am

re: #445 danarchy

Yeah apparently the Adrienne Vittadini brand has been around since before Ivanka was born and Adrienne is still alive and kicking

en.wikipedia.org

Adrienne no longer owns the brand. What they are doing is re-labeling Ivanka’s junk with the Vittadini label.

That’s a paper thin distinction on branding.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:07:07am

re: #432 lawhawk

Pecker is low hanging fruit and not the target.

Low rungs get deals to implicate those higher up.

Prosecutors think Pecker has more information of note on people above - namely Trump personally and directly, and in ways that Cohen doesn’t.

That’s notable in and of itself. After all, if Pecker didn’t have noteworthy info to prosecutors, why would they bother with an immunity deal. They could prosecute him on the same kind of federal crimes as Cohen cut a deal on.

There’s more than meets the eye here.

My guess? The abortion stories are coming.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:11:43am

re: #433 gocart mozart

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:12:19am

re: #448 makeitstop

My guess? The abortion stories are coming.

How would that make sense in terms of criminal justice?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:13:13am

re: #429 lawhawk

Trump engaged in high crimes as the unindicted coconspirator on multiple federal felonies with Cohen. Had Trump had a (D) after his name, the GOP would have already impeached. Instead, they protect his criminally corrupt admin.

Trump could have long been brought up on charges of conflict of interest, obstruction of justice and egregious violations of the Emoluments Clause, Mueller is working on presenting a case they cannot afford to ignore.

Although I am guessing that they will still do their damnedest to try…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:13:32am
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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:14:05am

The Pecker puns are flying on Twitter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:14:17am

re: #356 dangerman

of course …

i was actually fixating on him using the word flip - over and over and over and then saying “it’s called flipping”

its child like though construction

Then he will say that he invented the word “flipping”

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ericblair  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:14:32am

re: #428 Patricia Kayden

Wow!! Lindsey is scum. He has no morals whatsoever. So he’s pretty much encouraging Trump to take steps towards shutting down Mueller’s investigation.

I think he’s being blackmailed by the Russians, and have got a theory. One thing that links Trump, Rand Paul, and Lindsey Graham at the least, is that they have been on-again off-again long shot candidates for President. So they would be far more vulnerable to compromise than the conventional candidates, but the effort could still pay off big if they got lucky.

For all the shit that’s been revealed, we’re only getting started. The rot is pervasive, and links all of these fuckers, and beyond that an entire world network of trillions of dollars of dirty money. It’s been ignored (deliberately) for ages, but now that the international criminal class won a battle they were better off losing, enough people are pulling enough strings that a lot of this could come down.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:15:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:17:10am

Besides Russia and North Korea are there any countries Trump hasn’t royally pissed off yet?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:19:20am

re: #444 MsJ

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He will do that to you.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:19:22am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Besides Russia and North Korea are there any countries Trump hasn’t royally pissed off yet?

Well, there’s…no, they’re pissed.

Wait…how about…nah, they’re pissed, too.

Hey! What about…nope, they’re really pissed.

I got nothing.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:19:35am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Besides Russia and North Korea are there any countries Trump hasn’t royally pissed off yet?

Israel.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:19:48am

re: #450 MsJ

How would that make sense in terms of criminal justice?

Pecker’s specialty was ‘catch and kill’ - buying the rights to a story and then not publishing them. There may be a story or two in there that we don’t know about yet.

Also, Pecker seemed to deal with that hack Keith Davidson, who acted as Stormy Daniels’ ‘lawyer’ (and the Playmate’s, too) while working with Cohen to keep their stories quiet. Pecker may have some insights on that stuff, too.

Like Lawhawk said, Pecker’s got info that Team Mueller considers of value or he wouldn’t have gotten immunity. He probably knows about all kinds of stuff (like that Broidy payoff). I wouldn’t be surprised if among that stuff there’s a tale about Trump avoiding bringing another little Trump into the world.

Just spitballing here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:20:14am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Besides Russia and North Korea are there any countries Trump hasn’t royally pissed off yet?

Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan come to mind for some reason…

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:21:13am
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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:21:44am

re: #461 makeitstop

Pecker’s specialty was ‘catch and kill’ - buying the rights to a story and then not publishing them. There may be a story or two in there that we don’t know about yet.

Also, Pecker seemed to deal with that hack Keith Davidson, who acted as Stormy Daniels’ ‘lawyer’ (and the Playmate’s, too) while working with Cohen to keep their stories quiet. Pecker may have some insights on that stuff, too.

Like Lawhawk said, Pecker’s got info that Team Mueller considers of value or he wouldn’t have gotten immunity. He probably knows about all kinds of stuff (like that Broidy payoff). I wouldn’t be surprised if among that stuff there’s a tale about Trump avoiding bringing another little Trump into the world.

Just spitballing here.

The disconnect I am thinking about is Pecker testifying against Cohen (that’s what it said, right?) and how that would affect the trump investigation.

Like Lawhawk said…still too much we don’t know. I am trying to make connections that I likely have not seen as being relevant yet.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:21:57am

re: #460 Patricia Kayden

Israel.

only half

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:23:53am

re: #453 BigPapa

The Pecker puns are flying on Twitter.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:24:14am

I’m not sure whether this is pushback on Graham’s statements, or a sub-tweet to Trump, or what.

Kinda unusual it comes out now, though.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:24:26am
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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:25:53am

Also, this…

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:29:13am
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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:29:28am

I wish I knew what the fuck half of this stuff meant. It’s getting tough to tell who’s moving for or against whom.

And maybe that’s the idea.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:29:58am

re: #464 MsJ

The disconnect I am thinking about is Pecker testifying against Cohen (that’s what it said, right?) and how that would affect the trump investigation.

Like Lawhawk said…still too much we don’t know. I am trying to make connections that I likely have not seen as being relevant yet.

How many other payments could have been made both people other than Cohen that should be classified as campaign contributions? Cohen made a few, which is what he’s admitted guilt to. What about other people? Pecker might know a few. And his squashing of stories could also be seen as contributions.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:30:50am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:31:25am

re: #452 Dave In Austin

(WOW!) CAT REALIZES HIMSELF IN MIRROR

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:31:57am

re: #473 gocart mozart

“Trump’s Pecker is granted immunity by prosecutors.”

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Cheechako  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:32:02am

re: #461 makeitstop

Pecker’s specialty was ‘catch and kill’ - buying the rights to a story and then not publishing them. There may be a story or two in there that we don’t know about yet.

Also, Pecker seemed to deal with that hack Keith Davidson, who acted as Stormy Daniels’ ‘lawyer’ (and the Playmate’s, too) while working with Cohen to keep their stories quiet. Pecker may have some insights on that stuff, too.

Like Lawhawk said, Pecker’s got info that Team Mueller considers of value or he wouldn’t have gotten immunity. He probably knows about all kinds of stuff (like that Broidy payoff). I wouldn’t be surprised if among that stuff there’s a tale about Trump avoiding bringing another little Trump into the world.

Just spitballing here.

Possibly paid for with campaign funds?

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:32:14am

Kushner, the Zelig of 2018. He’s always around, but no one knows why.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:32:20am

re: #471 makeitstop

I wish I knew what the fuck half of this stuff meant. It’s getting tough to tell who’s moving for or against whom.

And maybe that’s the idea.

If they are republican, they are pro crime, against justice and America in general.

If they are in trump’s circle, they are criminals.

All the criminals will be doing everything they can to eat each other.

The only thing missing is the when and why.

//

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:33:15am
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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:34:04am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:34:12am

re: #478 MsJ

If they are republican, they are pro crime, against justice and America in general.

If they are in trump’s circle, they are criminals.

All the criminals will be doing everything they can to eat each other.

The only thing missing is the when and why.

//

I don’t think sarc tags needed. Pretty spot on IMO.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:35:30am

As you can guess, the Urban Myers (Ohio State Football Coach) mess is big news in Columbus today.

I’ve been listening to some local sports radio call in stuff and damn you can easily pick out the rabid Trumpers. Donny has affected everything.

So many callers are jumping on “The Media” and how they are all out to bring Myers down. One guy said “the media likes to think they are the gatekeepers. Just do your damn jobs and give us the facts!” The poor guy at the station was trying to tell him bringing up facts is gatekeeping and allowing everyone to know what is going on and you can make your own judgments. Caller was not having it. “This is why we can’t trust the media…you all lie!”

Yep, it is going to take a lot to clear out Trump thinking. Amazing what a year and a half can do to a country. It does show that these people have been here all along. All they needed was someone to latch onto to let the hate of everything fly. Trump was that guy. And he knew he could run a successful campaign based on America’s worst. Says a lot about our country.

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:36:14am

re: #475 Belafon

“Trump’s Pecker is granted immunity by prosecutors.”

Trump’s Pecker engulfed in probe.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:36:28am
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BigPapa  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:37:10am

Mueller gave Pecker a legal condom so he can screw Trump

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Stanley Sea  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:37:24am
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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:38:36am
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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:39:12am

re: #479 goddamnedfrank

Damn, man. I had to think about that one.

Good on her!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:39:29am

re: #360 Patricia Kayden

Tricky Dick is rolling in his grave at how corrupt this guy is.

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:40:07am

re: #471 makeitstop

I wish I knew what the fuck half of this stuff meant. It’s getting tough to tell who’s moving for or against whom.

And maybe that’s the idea.

I still think Mueller is acting like a traffic coordinator. He is purposely creating crashes to watch the reactions and then note it all and see what it leads to. Others, like Stone and the younger Trumps have green lights to keep on doing what they are doing. They may get sent into dead ends and bridge out messes a bit later as needed.

We still have zero info coming from him and his group of investigators. Meanwhile everyone is losing it over all the speculation and trying to second guess and position themselves. Which may be exactly what Mueller wants.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:40:39am

re: #480 lawhawk

The damn tie is like ten feet long, I’m dying

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:40:51am

re: #486 Stanley Sea

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Good take.

If you read the Cohen Information, which is essentially the charging document, it makes clear that the Trump/Enquirer arrangement wasn’t just a friend keeping an eye out for his friend - the way the relationship and modus operandi had been portrayed in the media. It was a very specific arrangement: The Enquirer would troll for Trump-damaging stories, which there were obviously going to be a lot of, buy them and then sell them to Trump. The last part is key; and we didn’t know that until Tuesday. This wasn’t just being a pal. It was a specific, standing financial arrangement. The Enquirer would essentially act as a cut-out, buying stories on Trump’s behalf without the seller of the story knowing what was happening.

It was a great convenience. It’s obviously inherently difficult to Trump to purchase stories about his affairs from former mistresses or sex partners. Obviously he did that too. But in many cases it was going to be easier for the Enquirer to trick the sellers by making them think they were selling their story to a publisher rather than Trump.

It’s one thing to do something like this as an individual. But the Enquirer was doing this as a company, with multiple employees involved. Given the various ancillary crimes involved and the potential forother crimes that remain uncharged, that’s a big problem and a real threat to the company.

Pecker’s empire is at stake here. He’d rather burn Cohen (and by extension, Trump) than lose his cash cow.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:41:07am

re: #489 Sir John Barron

Tricky Dick is rolling in his grave at how corrupt this guy is.

Tricky Dick is a saint compared to Donnie.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:41:27am

re: #479 goddamnedfrank

Make Flipping Illegal Again! Snitches get Stiches!!!

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:41:31am

re: #489 Sir John Barron

Tricky Dick is rolling in his grave at how corrupt this guy is.

“Dick spins in grave as Pecker turns on Trump.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:42:40am

They just can’t control themselves, can they?

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ObserverArt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:43:53am

re: #483 MsJ

Trump’s Pecker engulfed in probe.

Trump fears Pecker has gone soft and is letting him down.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:43:58am
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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:44:14am

re: #492 makeitstop

Good take.

Pecker’s empire is at stake here. He’d rather burn Cohen (and by extension, Trump) than lose his cash cow.

That cash cow needs to fucking die.

And the trumptards talk about Fake News, while eating up the National Enquirer bullshit with a silver-plated spoon.

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ericblair  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:44:17am

re: #479 goddamnedfrank

there are a lot of cheap puns about this news. none of them is half as good as this.

Cohen fingers Pecker, Trump squeals!
Pecker finds women, but refuses to go in hole!
Cohen points at Pecker, Pecker won’t go down!

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:44:17am

YOU WOULD BE POOR WITHOUT ME

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:44:58am

Trump’s Daddy tapes, playing inside his head. Now in broadcast form.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:45:01am

re: #423 lawhawk

BOOM:

Let me check the scoreboard. Donnie is being brought down by a Porn Star, a Reality TV Villain, and a Pecker.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:45:50am

re: #492 makeitstop

Sigh. These slow news days are killing me.

////

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:46:20am

I don’t know? Think he feels isolated?

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:46:24am

re: #461 makeitstop

Pecker’s specialty was ‘catch and kill’ - buying the rights to a story and then not publishing them. There may be a story or two in there that we don’t know about yet.

Also, Pecker seemed to deal with that hack Keith Davidson, who acted as Stormy Daniels’ ‘lawyer’ (and the Playmate’s, too) while working with Cohen to keep their stories quiet. Pecker may have some insights on that stuff, too.

Like Lawhawk said, Pecker’s got info that Team Mueller considers of value or he wouldn’t have gotten immunity. He probably knows about all kinds of stuff (like that Broidy payoff). I wouldn’t be surprised if among that stuff there’s a tale about Trump avoiding bringing another little Trump into the world.

Just spitballing here.

Way more information than anyone ever wanted to know about Keith Davidson and all of his sleazy crap.

Celeb Dirt To Be Sold? You Better Call Keith
A profile of the lawyer behind Trump “hush” deals

thesmokinggun.com

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:48:27am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:51:15am

re: #507 lawhawk

Great briefing at the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory at @NASA_Johnson with @JimBridenstine. The important training here at the Johnson Space Center is key to preparing our astronauts for America’s next chapter of space exploration!
— Vice President Mike Pence

[Pence]Some day America will land astronauts on the Moon! [/Pence]

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MsJ  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:54:59am

re: #505 JordanRules

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:55:54am

re: #509 MsJ

All on deep background.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:56:23am

re: #507 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:58:22am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

He and Trump are using the flags painted on the wall as a guide to see how many they can piss off in short order.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:59:06am

re: #508 Sir John Barron

[Pence]Some day America will land astronauts on the Moon! [/Pence]

I hate to be fair, but this administration has been advocating sending astronauts “back” to the Moon from day one. No suggestion of paying for it, though.

I hope that doesn’t get tarred by association when this freakshow goes down.

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jaunte  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:59:37am

re: #511 The Vicious Babushka

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 10:59:48am

Oh word, Corker???

I thought you were in the group that wasn’t supposed to give up the game.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:00:10am

re: #513 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I hate to be fair, but this administration has been advocating sending astronauts “back” to the Moon from day one. No suggestion of paying for it, though.

I hope that doesn’t get tarred by association when this freakshow goes down.

The moon people will pay for it.

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:01:05am

re: #516 Sir John Barron

The moon people will pay for it.

They’ll pay us not to return.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:04:40am

re: #509 MsJ

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Probably the same people kissing the ring the most now. Licking the ring.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:05:42am

re: #515 JordanRules

Oh word, Corker???

I thought you were in the group that wasn’t supposed to give up the game.

Sometimes people just blurt out the truth.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:06:00am

re: #507 lawhawk

Hmmm… if there’s a witch hunt, can we see if the witches float?

‘We all float down here.’

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:06:47am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:11:32am

re: #521 JordanRules

I’ll admit I hadn’t expected Donald John Trump and his Attorney General, Jefferson Davis Beauregard Sessions to be publicly squabbling. Nor did I expect to sympathize with Sessions in any way.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:11:38am
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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:13:54am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:14:06am
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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:14:11am

re: #452 Dave In Austin

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Marx Brothers, Duck Soup Mirror Scene

Marx Brothers mirror scene - Duck soup

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:17:50am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:18:58am

Ruh Roh—

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:19:33am

Hunter also directed to surrender two firearms as part of bond

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:21:30am

I’m assuming it’s regular business until further notice.

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:22:23am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hunter also directed to surrender two firearms as part of bond

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Duncan Hunter released on $15,000 bond; wife Margaret released on $10,000 bond; government attorney said they have no assets, are living paycheck to paycheckOVERDRAFT TO OVERDRAFT and their financial situation needed to be considered

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Charles Johnson  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:22:36am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:24:08am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hunter also directed to surrender two firearms as part of bond

Duncan Hunter released on $15,000 bond; wife Margaret released on $10,000 bond; government attorney said they have no assets, are living paycheck to paycheck and their financial situation needed to be considered

Yeah…his paychecks needed to stop a couple of days ago.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:24:11am

re: #501 jaunte

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YOU WOULD BE POOR WITHOUT ME

Maybe he was talking specifically about Fox News…

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:25:57am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

they have no assets, are living paycheck to paycheck and their financial situation needed to be considered

You gotta be fuckin’ kidding me.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:27:13am
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:27:34am

re: #493 Dr. Matt

Tricky Dick is a saint piker compared to Donnie.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:30:09am

re: #498 goddamnedfrank

the most important detail missing in this headline is that he did some of this WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. As in, these invoices were faked and paid out after he took the oath of office.

remember, though don jr and eric run the trump org since 1/11/17

would be sweet if sr. is proven to actually be involved, though
(surprised i would not be)

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:34:15am

re: #520 makeitstop

‘We all float down here.’

we’re neutral about it
that’s the whole point ;-)

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:34:23am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:35:12am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hunter also directed to surrender two firearms as part of bond

OBAMA UN-SHADOW GOVERNMENT CONSPIRING TO TAKE 2A RIGHTS AWAY FROM TRUE AMERICANS!

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:35:46am

re: #526 BeenHereAwhile

Marx Brothers, Duck Soup Mirror Scene

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my thought as well

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:35:59am

re: #540 gocart mozart

“See how deep the Conspiracy against our MAGA president goes?”

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:37:17am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hunter also directed to surrender two firearms as part of bond

Duncan Hunter released on $15,000 bond; wife Margaret released on $10,000 bond; government attorney said they have no assets, are living paycheck to paycheck and their financial situation needed to be considered @CourthouseNews

guy makes $174,000 a year

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Sir John Barron  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:38:20am

re: #544 dangerman

guy makes $174,000 a year

He and his “wonderful family” have sacrificed everything to defeat terrorists and MAGA.
///

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:39:29am

re: #544 dangerman

guy makes $174,000 a year

Which, to be honest, must be partially spent on both his Washington residence, and his residence in his district.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:42:03am

re: #522 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit I hadn’t expected Donald John Trump and his Attorney General, Jefferson Davis Beauregard Sessions to be publicly squabbling. Nor did I expect to sympathize with Sessions in any way.

Why sympathize with either of these cretins? Not that I would wish ill on any living creature, but maybe they can both disappear in an antimatter explosion or something.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:42:34am

re: #546 Belafon

Which, to be honest, must be partiall spent on both his Washington residence, and his residence in his district.

sorry no
i dont care what his personal situation is any more than he cares about mine

live within your means
isnt that what they’re always telling us?

if you cant swing a job in the circumstances - you can get another job. you can move.
isnt that what they’re always telling us?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:43:58am

re: #536 gocart mozart

I have always loved Alexandra Petri; now I love her even more.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:44:09am
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calochortus  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:47:16am

re: #548 dangerman

sorry no
i dont care what his personal situation is any more than he cares about mine

live within your means
isnt that what they’re always telling us?

if you cant swing a job in the circumstances - you can get another job. you can move.
isnt that what they’re always telling us?

No, he shouldn’t be living beyond his means, but I think the point was those means aren’t quite what they would be to someone with a single residence in St. Louis or somewhere.

That said, I don’t have any sympathy for him either.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:48:58am

re: #551 calochortus

No, he shouldn’t be living beyond his means, but I think the point was those means aren’t quite what they would be to someone with a single residence in St. Louis or somewhere.

That said, I don’t have any sympathy for him either.

He knew what the job involved and what the pay was, so no sympathy. (said as a former teacher who heard that plenty regarding teacher pay)

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BeachDem  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:50:35am

re: #551 calochortus

No, he shouldn’t be living beyond his means, but I think the point was those means aren’t quite what they would be to someone with a single residence in St. Louis or somewhere.

That said, I don’t have any sympathy for him either.

Yeah—most residents of St. Louis don’t go on pricey Italian and Hawaiian vacations…or buy hundreds of dollars of tequila shots at bachelor parties…or spend 4 nights at pricey hotels with persons other than their wives…or fly their bunnies cross-country. (At least I don’t think they do.)

And the Hunters were living campaign donation to campaign donation rather than paycheck to paycheck anyway.

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calochortus  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:54:39am

re: #553 BeachDem

And the Hunters were living campaign donation to campaign donation rather than paycheck to paycheck anyway.

Very true. Most of us don’t overdraw our bank accounts three times a week or whatever he was doing either. (Full disclosure: We did do it once when either Mr. C. or I forgot to write in a withdrawal, but that’s not bad for 40+ years.)

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 11:57:41am

re: #548 dangerman

All I was saying was that he could be living within his means (which he obviously isn’t) and yet not have anything left over because he’s having to maintain two locations. It’s obvious he’s not bright enough to make the millions most of the Congresspeople pull.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:01:32pm

and mess with teh homos & potheads

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:01:40pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:01:55pm

re: #507 lawhawk

He’s taking a knee in front of the American flag! Oh, the outrage! Grrr…grrr..grrr.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:03:06pm
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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:04:08pm

re: #551 calochortus

No, he shouldn’t be living beyond his means, but I think the point was those means aren’t quite what they would be to someone with a single residence in St. Louis or somewhere.

That said, I don’t have any sympathy for him either.

again though that’s true for everybody everywhere

cant get healthcare where you live? move
no more union protection? negotiate another job or move
plant (coal mine) closing? move

health crisis, car accident, hurricane damage, whatever
your wages not keeping up with your personal situation? get a 2nd or 3rd job, or go without, like you tell us to do

no they didnt go on public assistance or ask for help (i assume)
they got desperate
they essentially borrowed from their banks (at exorbitant effective rates) by overdrawing their accounts - effectively loans without the bother of qualifying (or being rejected)
then they stole campaign funds

these are ‘options’ most of us don’t have

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:05:17pm

re: #555 Belafon

All I was saying was that he could be living within his means (which he obviously isn’t) and yet not have anything left over because he’s having to maintain two locations. It’s obvious he’s not bright enough to make the millions most of the Congresspeople pull.

should that be disqualifying for the job then? ;-)

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:06:11pm

re: #559 JordanRules

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That’s some story.

Pecker’s apparent decision to corroborate Cohen’s account, and implicate Trump in a federal crime, is another vivid example of how isolated Trump is becoming as the walls close in and his former friends look for ways out. “Holy shit, I thought Pecker would be the last one to turn,” a Trump friend told me when I brought up the news. Trump and Pecker have been close for years. According to the Trump friend, Pecker regularly flew on Trump’s plane from New York to Florida. In July 2013, Trump tweeted that Pecker should become C.E.O. of Time magazine. “He’d make it exciting and win awards!”

During the 2016 campaign, Pecker provided invaluable media support to Trump by regularly attacking his Republican rivals and Hillary Clinton. At times, it seemed like the Enquirer operated as a de-facto arm of the campaign. In October 2015, I reported that Trump aides were a source for an Enquirer article exposing Ben Carson’s malpractice lawsuits (“Bungling Surgeon Ben Carson Left Sponge in Patient’s Brain!”). Pecker denied it at the time. In June, The Washington Post reported that the Enquirer routinely sent stories to Trump to review prior to publication. (The Enquirer denied that as well.) During the transition, rumors circulated that Trump was considering Pecker for a prime ambassadorship. Last summer, Pecker reportedly brought an adviser to Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman to meet Trump in the Oval Office to help him expand A.M.I.’s business.

But that was before federal prosecutors investigating Cohen subpoenaed A.M.I. Pecker’s friendship with Trump now seems to be over. According to a source close to A.M.I., Pecker and Trump haven’t spoken in roughly eight months. Howard remains particularly angry at Trump, two people close to Howard told me. “There is no love lost,” one person familiar with Howard’s thinking said. Another person said Howard “hates Trump” and feels “used and abused by him.”

vanityfair.com

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calochortus  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:08:02pm

re: #560 dangerman

Actually, they ran up a lot of overdraft fees too, which is just flat out stupid for someone in his position, IMHO.

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gocart mozart  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:08:23pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:09:32pm

Holy shit, I just connected a few dots while reading this paragraph of that Vanity Fair piece:

It’s likely that more Trump relationships will be stress-tested in the weeks to come as Trump’s legal peril escalates. Cohen’s lawyer Lanny Davis has given a series of cable-news interviews intimating that Cohen has valuable and damaging information on Trump to share with Mueller—including the claim that Trump had foreknowledge of Russia’s hacking of Clinton’s e-mails. One source close to Cohen told me Cohen wants to tell Mueller that Trump discussed the release of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s e-mails during the weekend when the Access Hollywood “grab ‘em by the pussy” tape dominated the news cycle.

Does this sound familiar? Last week it was Omarosa all over the news so “let’s remove someone’s security clearance” then talk came afterwards of them planning to do the same whenever some bad news dropped. Looks like they were running a play they’ve done before based on that line. In other words, I bet Trump knew about ALL the emails and had them leaked when necessary.

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:11:22pm

Also from that Vanity Fair piece:

One source close to the White House said Trump is considering announcing he’s revoked additional security clearances to create a new story line. The source added that Trump is even considering taking clearances from former members of his administration, including former national security adviser H.R. McMaster and secretary of state Rex Tillerson.

How to Lose Friends and Influence Damaging Testimony, by Donald J. Trump

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:12:05pm

re: #562 makeitstop

That’s some story.

vanityfair.com

He really has the nerve to be mad. That’s funny. All Trump’s people think they are special and won’t be tainted.
Dude you were doing dirt too, you should probably be in jail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:12:14pm

re: #566 makeitstop

Also from that Vanity Fair piece:

How to Lose Friends and Influence Damaging Testimony, by Donald J. Trump

The Art of the Squeal

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makeitstop  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:12:36pm

re: #565 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Holy shit, I just connected a few dots while reading this paragraph of that Vanity Fair piece:

Does this sound familiar? Last week it was Omarosa all over the news so “let’s remove someone’s security clearance” then talk came afterwards of them planning to do the same whenever some bad news dropped. Looks like they were running a play they’ve done before based on that line. In other words, I bet Trump knew about ALL the emails and had them leaked when necessary.

Remember the Podesta emails dropped an hour after the Pussy Tape surfaced.

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JordanRules  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:14:25pm

re: #565 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Holy shit, I just connected a few dots while reading this paragraph of that Vanity Fair piece:

Does this sound familiar? Last week it was Omarosa all over the news so “let’s remove someone’s security clearance” then talk came afterwards of them planning to do the same whenever some bad news dropped. Looks like they were running a play they’ve done before based on that line. In other words, I bet Trump knew about ALL the emails and had them leaked when necessary.

571
Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:14:57pm

re: #565 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Holy shit, I just connected a few dots while reading this paragraph of that Vanity Fair piece:

Does this sound familiar? Last week it was Omarosa all over the news so “let’s remove someone’s security clearance” then talk came afterwards of them planning to do the same whenever some bad news dropped. Looks like they were running a play they’ve done before based on that line. In other words, I bet Trump knew about ALL the emails and had them leaked when necessary.

Can we get some news people other than Vanity Fair, Teen Vogue, or Rachel Maddow to get how they were played?

572
SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:17:08pm

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Besides Russia and North Korea are there any countries Trump hasn’t royally pissed off yet?

The US

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:18:32pm

re: #563 calochortus

Actually, they ran up a lot of overdraft fees too, which is just flat out stupid for someone in his position, IMHO.

yes i implied that in the “effective interest rate”

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:20:19pm

re: #568 Eclectic Cyborg

The Art of the Squeal

winner

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calochortus  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:20:42pm

What still amazes me is the Trumpers who, when presented with evidence of criminal activity, just keep saying the Democrats do all this and more, but no one holds them responsible. I ask why the Trump administration (which includes, not incidentally, the DOJ) doesn’t go after the Dems with at least one or two indictments and in one case got a lot of bullshit about the separation of powers prevents it and besides Trump can’t do everything at once, and remember how Ford pardoned Nixon. I still have no clue what the latter had to do with anything.
Another weird response was remember when Obama was going to charge Bush with war crimes and then he didn’t? (Well, actually no, but do go on.) I suggested that if he did maybe when he got to actually be president he found out no crimes had been committed? That earned me a completely irrelevant response starting with “Dear Sock Puppet.”

It must be hard to go through life stating vehement convictions but being unable to defend them.

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dangerman  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:22:00pm

re: #572 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

30-40% of The US

(more in land mass)

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Kragar  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

Bolton ran away when asked by reporters if Trump is a security risk.

BBC Reporter Asks John Bolton if Trump Is A ‘Security Risk’

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Belafon  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:24:27pm

re: #575 calochortus

Since there’s no consequence for believing what they do, they don’t have any reason to adjust their reasoning.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 23, 2018 • 12:40:57pm

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dell*nix  Aug 23, 2018 • 9:45:33pm

re: #579 A Mom Anon

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jackmiller  Aug 25, 2018 • 1:11:15am

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