Watch Live: Mueller Testifies to the House Intelligence Committee

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Here’s a second thread to discuss this circus, since the first has filled up with hundreds of comments. I do have a thought…

This is such a damning picture of the Republican Party. These parrots bring nothing to the hearing but conspiracy theories and weird distortions. I pay attention to this stuff and even I have no idea what some of these guys are going on about.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

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Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:08:53am

Rep. Chris Stewart floats Roger Stone’s ridiculous conspiracy theory accusing Mueller of tipping CNN off about his arrest. He didn’t. They were just staking out Stone’s house. https://t.co/N5A4oO0rpC

— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) July 24, 2019

gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 11:09:48am

In the waning days of Russian democracy, when there were still opposition forces in Parliament, they would still speak to the people. The rest just tried to echo and flatter Putin, because that’s where the real power was. The GOP today sounds like them.

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) July 24, 2019

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 11:10:25am

The entirety of this hearing is damning indictment of the GOP, desperate to protect a corrupt Trump.

It’s as though if they did anything resembling lip service to the facts or logic or the law, they’d be duty bound to impeach and remove Trump. Therefore, they are doing everything possible to avoid the facts or the law.

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lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 11:11:31am

“Problematic is an understatement.” Mueller on Trump’s praise for WikiLeaks during the campaign.

— Shane Harris (@shaneharris) July 24, 2019

Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 11:12:12am

Aw geez, here we go again with the Peter Strzok conspiracy theory. https://t.co/68yZJlOnS3 pic.twitter.com/mdtKVeDI3e

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:12:13am

This is great material for a course on trial advocacy. Dems on direct are being allowed to lead and Lap Dog says yes. Repubs on cross impeach him, befuddle him and generally demonstrate he had no interest in pursuing truth…”not in my purview.”

— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) July 24, 2019

Mueller is a great man, a great patriot, a great lawyer. You, Rudy, are not.

— Sandy on the Kaw (@Sandy05357654) July 24, 2019

BeachDem Jul 24, 2019 • 11:12:26am

Somebody please MOOOOOOO at Devin Nunes. He is pathetic.

BeachDem Jul 24, 2019 • 11:13:57am

OOOh, the Clinton campaign’s “dirty ops arm”—and now Devin goes on and on and on about the dossier.

Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 11:14:21am

The rigged game being played by “savvy” observers:

1) If Mueller doesn’t “go beyond” the report, it’s a dud. (Downgrades importance of Mueller reiterating devastating findings on live television.)

2) Mueller “only” reiterated his report’s devastating findings. Not news. Dud!

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 24, 2019

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:14:48am

“We spent substantial time ensuring the integrity of the report, understanding it would be a living message to those who come after us. But, it also is a signal, a flag, to those of us who have some responsibility in this area, to exercise those responsibilities swiftly.” pic.twitter.com/SqetJkTry3

— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) July 24, 2019

Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 11:15:03am

And now, some more bizarre Hillary Clinton conspiracy theories from Trump’s pet. https://t.co/68yZJlOnS3 pic.twitter.com/1ZrDzwXIyc

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:15:27am

re: #2 gocart mozart

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Gary confirms what I’ve been saying! Republicans have mutated into Soviet Communists!

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:16:01am

Look, my fellow Democrats, these Mueller hearings have made clear Trump is going to need to win re-election to stay out of jail.

He’s not going to lose quietly or gracefully, and he will run a scorched earth campaign.

Prepare accordingly.

— Bobby the #KamalaKing #TeamPelosi 🥀 (@WokeBobbyHill) July 24, 2019

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 11:16:20am

This is the fucking problem right here. https://t.co/A80eXQEhVG

— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@Celticlassy10) July 24, 2019

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:16:33am

Nunes now saying June 9 meeting shorter than 20 minutes. Mueller corrects report says it was 20.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) July 24, 2019

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:18:01am

After Mueller characterizes WikiLeaks as “a hostile intelligence service,” he adds that the Trump campaign’s praise of WikiLeaks was “problematic.”

“Problematic is an understatement,” Mueller adds.

“Certainly calls for an investigation,” he says later. pic.twitter.com/xGi0TULCjk

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 24, 2019

wrenchwench Jul 24, 2019 • 11:18:16am

*Disclaimer of having not read the previous thread, with apologies as needed*

I listened to the whole Judiciary Committee hearing on NPR. I almost left in the middle, but I’m glad I listened to the end because hearing Veronica Escobar at the end, having been saved for an important position, made me very happy.

Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 11:18:38am

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

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Well, first, it’s not a trial. Second, there is no “direct” or “cross-examination”.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:20:33am

I spent 3 years talking to Russian spies and our meetings never took longer than an hour, at most and generally were less. The minimization by the Republicans of the Trump Tower meetings is absurd. #MuellerHearings

— Naveed Jamali (@NaveedAJamali) July 24, 2019

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:21:33am

Trump’s still retweeting Fox clips. #ClusterFox

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) July 24, 2019

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 11:21:47am

re: #18 Mike Lamb

And 3d - Rudy’s making a good point about trial advocacy, but not in way he hoped.

You advocate for your client on the facts.
You advocate for your client on the law.
When you don’t have those, you’re left resorting to pounding on the table.

What Trumpworld, the GOP, and Rudy are doing are not only pounding on the table, but pushing conspiracy theories to create a self-pounding table, because they’re so up to their eyeballs in wrongdoing.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:21:58am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

All sorts of wingnuts are crowing victory because Mr. Mueller isn’t answering GOP questions about Fusion GPS (which had nothing to do with his report).

The GOP representatives are simply playing to their base. They are not interested in ascertaining truth.

Fortunately, when Democrats turn out to vote, they win. The goal has to be ignore the ignorati and focus on Dems and indys who didn’t vote last time.

I Would Prefer Not To Jul 24, 2019 • 11:22:26am

“It is not a witch hunt.” I can almost be happy with this.

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 11:24:14am

re: #23 I Would Prefer Not To

“It is not a witch hunt.” I can almost be happy with this.

It wasn’t a witch hunt. We didn’t catch witches.

We caught: Papadopoulos, Flynn, Manafort, Gates, and a shit-ton of Russian agents and operatives engaging in multiple federal felonies.

Trump engaged in multiple felonies to cover up his role in all this. That coverup precludes further conclusions by Mueller of Trump crimes.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:25:27am

.@Nunes is pushing a theory that while Russia was attacking a US election to help Trump it somehow also manipulated Dem. operatives to get them to orchestrate the Trump Tower meeting in order to entrap Trump’s team—and then did nothing with this info.

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:29:08am

@PreetBharara based on your experience with Robert Mueller, how do you think he feels about being questioned by a congressman who is not wearing a suit jacket? #askpreet

— BBB (@shear_brad) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:30:38am

Not watching the hearing but from Twitter I gather it proves conclusively that everybody was exactly right in what they believed before the hearing

— 1000/24thHat (@Popehat) July 24, 2019

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 11:31:31am

And he isn’t exciting enough.

Where is the the moment where he yells…
“You don’t know the meaning of truth!!!”

Real life is BORING.
;)

— Terry Dresbach (@draiochta14) July 24, 2019

Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 11:33:52am

Wingnuts are all declaring victory, but so what? They always do. They’re eternal winners of everything, in their own minds.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:34:22am

You want to see something weird? Alan Dershowitz has only liked 43 tweets ever, and some of them are just QAnon nutcases arguing with randos. https://t.co/z2EeV69IUz

— Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw) July 21, 2019

Trying to wrap my head around Dershowitz the chess master litigator liking a tweet ranting about sending Ilhan Omar “back too Somali or lock her up for treason.”

— Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw) July 21, 2019

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 11:34:32am

POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS:
(1) he’s doesn’t want to characterize whether the dirt offered was something of value under campaign finance laws.
(2) he doesn’t want to speculate about the value of hypothetical dirt.
(3) he didn’t want to answer the question.
(4) he didn’t understand it.

— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) July 24, 2019

Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 24, 2019 • 11:37:37am

This is a showcase of Republican depravity: Strawmen, half-truths, loaded questions, conspiracy theories. This plays well with the grifter wannabes and two-bit con artists and petty thieves who make up the Republican base
They see it as a brilliant and wily example of the kind of deceit they would like to practice. They are too ignorant and wilfully stupid to realize how obvious and un-convincing it is.

Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 11:39:21am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It only has to convince them.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:40:07am

Rep. Elise Marie Stefanik has been asking a series of questions on the Steele Dossier that Robert Mueller has said declined to answer saying it is outside of his purview. Stefanik just said she understands he won’t be able to answer her questions but wants them on the record.

— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) July 24, 2019

BeachDem Jul 24, 2019 • 11:41:52am

Castro doing a good job.

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 11:42:35am

If I am the Democrats in the huddle now, I would be talking about ceding all my time to Schiff in the next round of questioning.

— Dan Rather (@DanRather) July 24, 2019

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:43:23am

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

This is great material for a course on trial advocacy. Dems on direct are being allowed to lead and Lap Dog says yes. Repubs on cross impeach him, befuddle him and generally demonstrate he had no interest in pursuing truth…”not in my purview.”

rudy
- this is not a trial
- in a court
- of law

- it’s a hearing
- house and senate rules apply

asshat

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:44:40am

Now the wingnuts are shifting their narrative from “Mueller is obviously ill” to “Mueller obviously didn’t write the report.”

That sort of talking point narrative is not the sort of talk which comes from people who are certain of their position (otherwise they would point to how Mueller clears Trump and show that evidence).

All they have is obfuscation.

Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 11:44:56am

re: #37 DangerMan

rudy
- this is not a trial
- in a court
- of law

- it’s a hearing
- house and senate rules apply

asshat

The fact that he views this is a “trial”, with Dems being the prosecutors, and the GOP being defense attorneys, speaks volumes.

Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 11:45:59am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹

Now the wingnuts are shifting their narrative from “Mueller is obviously ill” to “Mueller obviously didn’t write the report.”

That sort of talking point narrative is not the sort of talk which comes from people who are certain of their position (otherwise they would point to how Mueller clears Trump and show that evidence).

All they have is obfuscation.

Well…no shit Mueller didn’t write the report, top to bottom. They’d apparently be astonished to know that Justices on the SCOTUS don’t write their opinions either.

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:46:30am

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

Look, my fellow Democrats, these Mueller hearings have made clear Trump is going to need to win re-election to stay out of jail.

He’s not going to lose quietly or gracefully, and he will run a scorched earth campaign.

Prepare accordingly.

as i said last thread:

a good Dem argument may be:
- Don’t impeach, IMPRISON
- Don’t spend the time impeaching, spend it campaigning
Vote him out and:
- We’ll censure him for history - ie forever
- And we’ll have power to pass laws, get judges, and prosecute

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:46:41am

Then there are the crazy people.

Loyal to our country? Explain then, why Mueller hand delivered a sample of US uranium to the Kremlin on behalf of HRC and Obama to secure the Uranium 1 deal? If Russia is our adversary, why would Dems supply them with the means to make a nuclear bomb?

— DeploraMal 🇺🇸 (@DeploraMal) July 24, 2019

(Narrator: Russia has had the means to build nuclear bombs for decades. The rest is just lies.)

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:48:55am

re: #23 I Would Prefer Not To

“It is not a witch hunt.” I can almost be happy with this.

my mood today:

YouTube

marcusgorillius Jul 24, 2019 • 11:49:17am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

These people are so fucking stupid.

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:50:14am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Wingnuts are all declaring victory, but so what? They always do. They’re eternal winners of everything, in their own minds.

hell, they declared ‘victory’ yesterday / last week

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:50:23am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

Then there are the crazy people.

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(Narrator: Russia has had the means to build nuclear bombs for decades. The rest is just lies.)

It’s amazing to see just how stupid these MAGATS are!

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:51:01am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is a showcase of Republican depravity: Strawmen, half-truths, loaded questions, conspiracy theories. This plays well with the grifter wannabes and two-bit con artists and petty thieves who make up the Republican base
They see it as a brilliant and wily example of the kind of deceit they would like to practice. They are too ignorant and wilfully stupid to realize how obvious and un-convincing it is.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:52:35am

REPUBLICANS how many times does Bob Mueller have to tell you he can NOT talk about the Steele Dossier. That’s up to the criminal AG Barr.

— Cathey Cowger (@CowgerCathey) July 24, 2019

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 11:52:46am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

Well…no shit Mueller didn’t write the report, top to bottom. They’d apparently be astonished to know that Justices on the SCOTUS don’t write their opinions either.

legislating from the clerk’s chairs //

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:53:52am

re: #23 I Would Prefer Not To

“It is not a witch hunt.” I can almost be happy with this.

Frank Zappa - Drowning Witch

Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 11:54:33am

A stark warning from Mueller: Russians and others are working at hacking the next election, and “they’re doing it as we sit here.”

Donald Trump has taken absolutely no action to prevent this, because he’s counting on it.https://t.co/68yZJlOnS3

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

marcusgorillius Jul 24, 2019 • 11:54:40am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

Desperate times require desperate measures.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:56:27am

I would like to thank the Democrats for holding this morning’s hearing. Now, after 3 hours, Robert Mueller has to subject himself to #ShiftySchiff - an Embarrassment to our Country!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

That thread is being swarmed by Qnutz.

Actually you’re the one damned by the hearing. You, Don Jr (Lil’ Greasy) , Jared. Mueller confirmed your personal and business ties with Moscow, your cronies in jail because of it and of course your asking Don McGahn to LIE. Mueller confirms you asked him to fire Mueller! https://t.co/9Q13l1OeOc

— Amber Lutz (@blkbored) July 24, 2019

KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 11:57:12am

So, have I missed anything? Or is everyone playing to form?

KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 11:58:01am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

Well…no shit Mueller didn’t write the report, top to bottom. They’d apparently be astonished to know that Justices on the SCOTUS don’t write their opinions either.

As if any of them write the legislation they put forward…

(that’s what the GOP has the Heritage Foundation for!)

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 11:58:41am

re: #54 KGxvi

So, have I missed anything? Or is everyone playing to form?

Pretty much. Democrats are trying to ask probing questions to get to what Mueller uncovered or thought, Republicans are throwing poo like chimpanzees in a cage.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:00:15pm

The press still won’t use the L word.

Trump again claims Mueller wanted to return as FBI director, an assertion Mueller disputes https://t.co/GktYn1igkj

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 24, 2019

CORRECTION: Trump again **LIED** about Mueller wanting to return as FBI director. Period. https://t.co/sM3vxDm2qw

— Navy Mom (@USNavyMomPA) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:01:42pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed. I screwed up my copy from Twitter.

marcusgorillius Jul 24, 2019 • 12:04:27pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

L’il greasy! I love it. Kudos 😂

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 24, 2019 • 12:05:27pm

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 12:07:42pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

Generally, yes, although probably not a full 15%, for the bussing of the table and if they re-fill drinks.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 12:07:49pm

so much #WINNING

#Breaking

Boeing says growing 737 MAX crisis

could shut down production,

with over 10,000 workers to be laid-off. https://t.co/ZZ8KladiwP

🇺🇸#1u #UnionStrong #Solidarity #Airlines #Jobs pic.twitter.com/Yzr4R5mkxa

— Marc Perrone (@Marc_Perrone) July 24, 2019

Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 24, 2019 • 12:08:48pm

Oh goddammit. Rutger Hauer has died. Fuck this timeline. https://t.co/ccdt0U9hfn

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 24, 2019

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:09:20pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that’d blow the trade deficit, since Boeing is the nation’s largest exporter.

Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Jul 24, 2019 • 12:09:40pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

Yes. You still have a server who still brings you drinks and check up on you and your meal. There are also the busser who clean your table after you leave.

KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 12:09:48pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

Sir John Barron Jul 24, 2019 • 12:10:26pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

R’s used to believe this, too.

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:10:51pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

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Pope hat is a good read on legal stuff, but he is a seriously thin skinned bully and something of a dick.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:11:12pm

Mr. Tribe going for the “optics” angle:

Much as I hate to say it, this morning’s hearing was a disaster. Far from breathing life into his damning report, the tired Robert Mueller sucked the life out of it. The effort to save democracy and the rule of law from this lawless president has been set back, not advanced.

— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) July 24, 2019

I agree but for different reasons.

Dems had an opportunity to set the stage for impeachment hearings.

They could have used this hearing to establish that they have no choice but to take up the cause of justice since Congress is the sole venue for presidential accountability.

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) July 24, 2019

I have a different take. Dems repeated the refrain “No one is above the law.” Dems made a public justification to subpoena Don McGahn. When McGahn is questioned impeachment will be unavoidable.

— Jan Rivero (@prplpreacher) July 24, 2019

Professor, with all due respect, if you think you’re so good at this then I encourage you to actually run for Congress so you can show people how it’s done.

Perhaps then you’ll learn the difference between ivory-tower academism and actually governing. Perhaps.

— Talia #Kamala2020 (@_talia_t) July 24, 2019

Citizen K Jul 24, 2019 • 12:11:34pm

Wow. I hate everything about the new Twitter.

It makes no use of the space outside of its narrow columns, clicking on a tweet doesn’t simply superimpose the tweet you’re reading like before, and just looks ugly like all the text was blown up in browser settings without your input, not to mention everything just looks….empty, without being clean. It’s everything they could have done wrong, on top of the usual problem of their fellow travelers privileging racist users.

Sir John Barron Jul 24, 2019 • 12:12:07pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

Well, the orange one seemed pretty angry they were holding the hearing just this morning.

KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 12:12:21pm

re: #68 Scottish Dragon

Pope hat is a good read on legal stuff, but he is a seriously thin skinned bully and something of a dick.

If I had a dollar for every attorney I’ve met that fit that description… I could probably afford to fly to Paris for a very nice dinner.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:12:34pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

That depends on if you have service.

Buffet restaurants here bring drinks, clear dishes, bring food not available at the buffet. My wife and I leave tips in those restaurants.

Moreover, the employees at buffet restaurants are just as underpaid as any other restaurant.

William Lewis Jul 24, 2019 • 12:13:43pm

re: #66 KGxvi

I do. 15%.

MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 12:15:59pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

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Lil’ Greasy for DonnyJr. LOL!

MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 12:17:11pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much #WINNING

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And who needs regulations?? Bah! Useless! //

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:17:13pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Mr. Tribe going for the “optics” angle:

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Optics are crucial for setting up impeachment. You can wish it were otherwise, but that is the lay of the land and IMHO today set the cause back rather than advancing it. Mueller doesn’t want to be there, doesn’t want to answer questions and he made that as obvious as a tumor on your forehead. Everybody on Twitter yelling at me that I shouldn’t expect a showdog can fuck off. I don’t want or need a showdog. I need someone who WANTS to clarify what happened and help everybody understand.

Mueller is not that person.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:20:47pm

Regarding the Ted Lieu question, Mueller has now made it clear he didn’t mean he didn’t CHARGE Trump because of the OLC policy on indicting sitting presidents, but rather he didn’t MAKE A DETERMINATION on whether Trump broke the law because of the OLC policy.

— Ed Greenberger (@EdGreenberger) July 24, 2019

Mr. Mueller is NOT the one to make determination. Making determination is the congress’ job; however they don’t want to do their jobs.They want a scapegoat, and Mueller did his job, provided evidence. Like why are people acting like they can’t think??? This is being brushed off.. https://t.co/qNlVrivhYa

— Lorilet Monegro (@Loriletslp) July 24, 2019

Stanley Sea Jul 24, 2019 • 12:20:53pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

YES

Stanley Sea Jul 24, 2019 • 12:21:33pm

re: #66 KGxvi

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

YES

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:22:34pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

YES

I don’t.

steve_davis Jul 24, 2019 • 12:23:41pm

Again, Schiff would have kicked Socrates’ ass if he’d met him in Charmides.

DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 12:24:19pm

re: #77 Scottish Dragon

Optics are crucial for setting up impeachment. You can wish it were otherwise, but that is the lay of the land and IMHO today set the cause back rather than advancing it. Mueller doesn’t want to be there, doesn’t want to answer questions and he made that as obvious as a tumor on your forehead. Everybody on Twitter yelling at me that I shouldn’t expect a showdog can fuck off. I don’t want or need a showdog. I need someone who WANTS to clarify what happened and help everybody understand.

Mueller is not that person.

im gonna wait a week for things to settle and some sober analysis to have a go at it before i conclude that

Stanley Sea Jul 24, 2019 • 12:24:40pm

re: #81 Scottish Dragon

I don’t.

😢

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:24:42pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

YES

I’m cheap, I guess. If the server brings drinks, I tip, but not at the full rate of a full service restaurant.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:24:49pm

The President* Is a Crook and Everyone in Congress Knows It (Esquire)

Robert Mueller wasn’t Richard Pryor at the mic, but he confirmed it in his own way.

WASHINGTON—Rep. Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, Nuisance of the Nation, was gaggling outside the chambers of the House Judiciary Committee, and he was fairly glowing with the kind of radioactive glee common to shady used-car dealers and the peddlers of aluminum siding to infirm widows.

“Republicans,” Gaetz burbled, “are taking a victory lap.”

This is curious, indeed. In the first of his two appearances before congressional committees on Wednesday, former special counsel Robert Mueller testified that a) he didn’t indict the president* on obstruction at least partly due to that godawful Office of Legal Counsel opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted, an opinion that should be burned and have its ashes scattered on Sam Ervin’s grave; b) that a president*—like, say, this one—can be indicted once he leaves office, thereby implying that there is something there for which he could be indicted; c) that his report did not exonerate the president*; d) that there was a concerted effort on behalf of the White House to hamstring his investigation into the Russian ratfcking of the 2016 presidential election; and e) that Russia definitively wanted the president* to become the president*. And, remarkably, two of these statements came as answers to Republican senators. If this is a victory lap, I don’t know what a crash-and-burn would be.

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goddamnedfrank Jul 24, 2019 • 12:26:13pm

Drawn by Ralph Steadman, apparently. https://t.co/KQzMKAnNY5

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) July 24, 2019

Ming5000 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:29:54pm

re: #70 Citizen K

I still cannot find how to view the list of people I follow.

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:30:35pm

I loathe new Twitter. Passionately

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:30:51pm

Schiff: “We should hold our elected officials to a standard higher than mere avoidance of criminality, shouldn’t we?”

Mueller: “Absolutely.”

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 24, 2019

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:32:03pm

Mueller was just asked if it was accurate to say that Trump’s sworn written answers were incomplete and generally less than truthful. Mueller’s answer: “Generally.” That is a big deal, since it is perjury to lie in sworn testimony

— AltScalesOfJustice (@AltScalesOfJust) July 24, 2019

lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:32:25pm

Umm… this seems significant?

Just now: Mueller reveals the FBI is CURRENTLY still investigating the counterintelligence aspects of Trump and Russia. @msnbc

— Frank Figliuzzi (@FrankFigliuzzi1) July 24, 2019

A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 12:32:53pm

re: #66 KGxvi

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

If there’s a tip jar,. (Yes to buffet — I usually go around 10%.)

Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:33:53pm

Afternoon session does seem to have been more effective than the morning session.

goddamnedfrank Jul 24, 2019 • 12:35:46pm

Rutger Hauer is dead, Bam Bam Flintstone is the UK Prime Minister and our media is bleating about “optics” in the face of rank criminality by a racist President.

This timeline blows goats.

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) July 24, 2019

Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 12:36:34pm

I read Mueller’s tone (I was listening to it on NPR while driving) about all the leaks supposedly coming from his office (such as his letter to Barr) as angry at the implication.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:36:56pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Umm… this seems significant?

Which explains why he could not answer some questions: That might release information about ongoing investigations.

After a long, 7-hour day for Mueller, the committees, and the public watching, these #MuellerHearings are officially over.#MuellerWhoWhatWhy

— WhoWhatWhy (@whowhatwhy) July 24, 2019

MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 12:39:38pm

re: #66 KGxvi

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

Tipping at a buffet: Yes (there is still wait staff and people cleaning tables).

Take out: No.

Anymouse 🌹🎃 Jul 24, 2019 • 12:39:41pm

Question of the Day: Why is the GOP tryin’ to destroy the man who “totally exonerated” Donald Trump?

— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) July 24, 2019

Off for that nap now.

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lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:40:32pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

This roughly coincides with the revelation of infinity stones in NYC. /snap your fingers….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 24, 2019 • 12:42:03pm

re: #14 Scottish Dragon

Democratic Rep. Andre Carson: “Would you agree that these acts demonstrated a betrayal of the democratic values our country rests on?”

Mueller: “I can’t agree with that. Not that it’s not true, but I cannot agree with it.”

I do not see this as a problem so much as Mueller really going out of his way to stick to the findings of his report and not voice any conclusions that might be drawn from it, no matter how correct and proper those conclusions might be.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 12:44:41pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

The President* Is a Crook and Everyone in Congress Knows It (Esquire)

Robert Mueller wasn’t Richard Pryor at the mic, but he confirmed it in his own way.

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yup - and that didnt take long

this might have to sit on the stove and simmer a bit, like a good pomodoro

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A Mom Anon Jul 24, 2019 • 12:45:13pm

I’m not watching now, but Amy Siskind reported that Nunes actually ceded his last 5 minutes.

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 24, 2019 • 12:45:48pm

oh good, a press conference with Pelosi…(4:45 est).

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steve_davis Jul 24, 2019 • 12:45:48pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Unrelated to the Mueller hearing, my wife were just discussing this question and I am curious to hear the opinions of the lizard community on it:

Should you leave a tip when eating at a buffet restaurant?

if it is self-service, which I assume a buffet is, then no, of course not. I assume you also basically bus your own table, yes?

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Interesting Times Jul 24, 2019 • 12:47:12pm

re: #104 I Would Prefer Not To

oh good, a press conference with Pelosi…(4:45 est).

I assume you mean that sarcastically. Because if she’s once again going to reguritate “tee hee, let’s just wait ‘til 2020”, well…

This is bizarre. Does she know something the rest of us don’t? If so, why don’t we get to know if too? https://t.co/YNZ6xwu06N

— Jennifer Cohn (@jennycohn1) July 22, 2019

Read that one more time: THEY GOT INTO VOTING MACHINES.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 12:48:03pm

re: #103 A Mom Anon

I’m not watching now, but Amy Siskind reported that Nunes actually ceded his last 5 minutes.

I’m not surprised. Someone ceded time to him towards the end and he had run out of things to ask.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 12:48:26pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not see this as a problem so much as Mueller really going out of his way to stick to the findings of his report and not voice any conclusions that might be drawn from it, no matter how correct and proper those conclusions might be.

That seems about right… and I tend to agree with Mueller that it’s not necessarily his job to draw conclusions from the investigation, at least with respect to the president. That’s the job of Congress, but they are mostly scared of their voters, so they mostly don’t want to take a position on the issue.

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 12:48:33pm

It’s a cult. https://t.co/Iaasxwcbxt

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 12:48:50pm

So is irony.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 12:49:08pm

re: #105 steve_davis

if it is self-service, which I assume a buffet is, then no, of course not. I assume you also basically bus your own table, yes?

That’s the key. There are two models of buffet…one where you do everything yourself (getting food, cleaning your table) and the other, which is what I encounter most (like Golden Corral) where they bring you drinks and bus the tables. We always tip there. The other model (like the now defunct Old Country Buffet) we didn’t tip at.

It all comes down to are there people doing things that rely on tips (servers/wait staff/bus people) vs all do it yourself. If they rely on tips, then tip.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Jul 24, 2019 • 12:49:11pm

re: #103 A Mom Anon

I’m not watching now, but Amy Siskind reported that Nunes actually ceded his last 5 minutes.

He did. Also again declined to make a closing remark after Schiff completed his.

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lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:50:09pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

RUTH IS A FORCE OF NATURE! pic.twitter.com/xPTjvJKk1B

— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 24, 2019

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lawhawk Jul 24, 2019 • 12:51:12pm

In more non-Mueller news: Trump just filed an emergency request asking a judge to preemptively block House Dems from getting his state tax returns from NY until he gets “an opportunity for judicial review” https://t.co/6pRdGF7Tp2 pic.twitter.com/uWvwxrS0WB

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) July 24, 2019

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Teukka Jul 24, 2019 • 12:52:00pm

This just got published. Recommend viewing.

How Societies Turn Cruel - feat. Sargon of Akkad

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 12:53:39pm

Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler holding a press conference at 4:45pm ET

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) July 24, 2019

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 12:54:51pm

re: #103 A Mom Anon

I’m not watching now, but Amy Siskind reported that Nunes actually ceded his last 5 minutes.

He ran out of conspiracy theories. Should have paced himself.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 12:56:01pm

re: #111 MsJ

That’s the key. There are two models of buffet…one where you do everything yourself (getting food, cleaning your table) and the other, which is what I encounter most (like Golden Corral) where they bring you drinks and bus the tables. We always tip there. The other model (like the now defunct Old Country Buffet) we didn’t tip at.

It all comes down to are there people doing things that rely on tips (servers/wait staff/bus people) vs all do it yourself. If they rely on tips, then tip.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 12:57:27pm

So, a thought occurred to me the other day while browsing twitter - I think I even posted a shorter version of the thought on twitter.

I think presidential term limits actually makes the imperial presidency (for lack of a better term) stronger. Once a president takes office, they only have to worry about one more election. That frees them to do a lot of stuff that results in expanded executive powers, because they really don’t have to worry about facing voters.

Members of Congress, on the other hand, continually face re-election campaigns - be they every other year or every six years. When you constantly have re-election in the back of your mind, you’re more inclined to take “safe” positions. You’re also more likely to cede power to the executive because then you don’t even have to take a position.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 12:58:52pm

re: #114 lawhawk

In more non-Mueller news: Trump just filed an emergency request asking a judge to preemptively block House Dems from getting his state tax returns from NY until he gets “an opportunity for judicial review” …

IANAKOL (i am not any kind of lawyer)

the lawyers arent even trying. they just phoned in this nonsense (and sent a bill)

i expect this to be squashed like a bug quick time

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 12:59:35pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

He ran out of conspiracy theories. Should have paced himself.

i didnt know there was a finite amount

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A Mom Anon Jul 24, 2019 • 1:01:05pm

re: #120 DangerMan

So the usual throw shit at the wall to see what sticks ploy, eh? They are such retrograde throw backs they can’t even come up with anything they weren’t doing 40 yrs ago, or longer.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:02:07pm

re: #119 KGxvi

So, a thought occurred to me the other day while browsing twitter - I think I even posted a shorter version of the thought on twitter.

I think presidential term limits actually makes the imperial presidency (for lack of a better term) stronger. Once a president takes office, they only have to worry about one more election. That frees them to do a lot of stuff that results in expanded executive powers, because they really don’t have to worry about facing voters.

Members of Congress, on the other hand, continually face re-election campaigns - be they every other year or every six years. When you constantly have re-election in the back of your mind, you’re more inclined to take “safe” positions. You’re also more likely to cede power to the executive because then you don’t even have to take a position.

what they all ought to have on their minds is governing
compromising everything to keep your job/seat is not governing

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:03:15pm

re: #122 A Mom Anon

So the usual throw shit at the wall to see what sticks ploy, eh? They are such retrograde throw backs they can’t even come up with anything they weren’t doing 40 yrs ago, or longer.

im surprised the kitchen sink didnt leave a dent when they threw it

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Teukka Jul 24, 2019 • 1:04:06pm

re: #115 Teukka

This just got published. Recommend viewing.

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N.B. Not positive about Sargon of Akkad, rather the opposite.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 1:04:17pm

re: #119 KGxvi

Members of Congress, on the other hand, continually face re-election campaigns - be they every other year or every six years. When you constantly have re-election in the back of your mind, you’re more inclined to take “safe” positions. You’re also more likely to cede power to the executive because then you don’t even have to take a position.

Which also plays into everyone wanting some TV time. They have to show constituents that they are doing something…whatever that something happens to be.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 1:04:17pm

re: #114 lawhawk

If the committee hasn’t requested the documents, then the case isn’t ripe, meaning this whole thing should be thrown out.

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 1:07:51pm

Many Americans are fine with fascism and that the ruling elite of christofascists are deserving of immunity from the law. The electoral college and gerrymandering has caused long term damage that will never be reversed without war. Facts do not matter.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:08:58pm

i understand ‘optics’

today was not ever about how well mueller ‘performed’

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 1:09:08pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Actually, barring DOJ policy, it would have been in his position to make that charge, and it’s something Congress cannot do. They can choose to impeach. Impeachment and conviction do not take the place of actual legal indictments.

In the rush to blame Democrats for Trump still being in office don’t get the rules wrong.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 1:09:41pm

This will go down as one of the great speeches in American history. Thank you @RepAdamSchiff. #MuellerHearings pic.twitter.com/9hcYvwEVAT

— Ryan Knight 🗽 (@ProudResister) July 24, 2019

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 1:09:44pm

Had the Dem majority brought charges against the bush administration when they had political capital, they might have learned how to fight these bastards. They still want to appease.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 1:12:15pm

LOLOLOLOL

THREAD: Statement from Jay Sekulow, Counsel to the President:

“This morning’s testimony exposed the troubling deficiencies of the Special Counsel’s investigation. The testimony revealed that this probe was conducted by a small group of politically-biased prosecutors…

— Jay Sekulow (@JaySekulow) July 24, 2019

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Teukka Jul 24, 2019 • 1:12:36pm

re: #115 Teukka

This just got published. Recommend viewing.

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Was a gut punch. Woah.

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 1:12:51pm

One thing I found very disturbing, even maddening, was the reason that Mueller didn’t subpoena Trump.

Because Trump would have fought it, it would have dragged on, and Mueller wanted to conclude the investigation.

This really doesn’t sit right with me.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 1:14:26pm

Yeah, no subpoena from Meuller because he wanted to wrap it up. Law and order my ass.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 1:15:16pm

Mueller tells Congress: FBI “currently” looking into issues of Trump blackmail https://t.co/Lrz5ZqYQhK

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 1:18:05pm

#Law #Resist #Maga

Klayman should be disbarred. He shouldn’t be allowed to practice in any court in the country.

I doubt this will hurt his grifting with Laura Loomer though. https://t.co/SqAz1p20XM

— HGTomato 🍅 (@HGTomato) July 24, 2019

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 1:23:11pm

Dems: Trump accepted help from the Russians and lied about it?

Mueller: Yes.

Dems: Then he attempted to obstruct justice?

Mueller: Yes

Dems: And as soon as he is out of office he could go to jail?

Mueller: Yes

Republicans: THIS IS A DISASTER FOR THE DEMOCRATS!

— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) July 24, 2019

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 1:24:56pm

re: #139 jaunte

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Pretty succinct, innit?

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 1:29:28pm

I think I’m gonna hurl.

Well, at least their performances were a hit with their audience of one. https://t.co/twdKcreKTF

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 1:31:53pm

I wonder why you want to move on 🤔🤔🤔 pic.twitter.com/Tlp69RuvFD

— DNC War Room (@DNCWarRoom) July 24, 2019

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Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 1:34:12pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL

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Completely biased Trump haters who totally exonerated the President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 1:35:58pm

oh boy

Boris Johnson’s cabinet: the main players.#cabinetreshuffle pic.twitter.com/hFQDLaGI4e

— David Schneider (@davidschneider) July 24, 2019

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Mike Lamb Jul 24, 2019 • 1:36:31pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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In which Trump is synonymous with the Country. But no narcissism. You’re the narcissism.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:38:07pm

re: #140 austin_blue

Pretty succinct, innit?

do y’all recall the end of Force 10 From Navarone?

harrison ford and robert shaw set explosives deep down inside the dam
it blows up and “nothing happens”
(they run like hell and get out)

Miller (“you horrible little man”) sits on the hillside calmly smoking his pipe and says to carl weathers “You can’t expect an enormous volcano with three tiny bags of explosives. You have to let nature take her course”

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:38:51pm

re: #143 Mike Lamb

Completely biased Trump haters who totally exonerated the President.

Schrodinger’s… oh why bother

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Mescalero09 Jul 24, 2019 • 1:40:50pm

Mueller is and always has been a Republican.
Put that in your coffee tomorrow morning.
And what’s that canard about evil only succeeds when good men do nothing?
All I can think of is cut cards, loaded dice and a finger on the scale.
Coming from one viewpoint it’s always been a crooked table.
Fuck, they shot unarmed black men on video and walked.
On. Video.
Make America great again….
Fuck me.
Saw a guy in the grocery store today. Had his Sears shorts and polo and loafers and white socks and a fucking brand spanking new Trump 2020 hat. I just walked by looking at him and he never made eye contact.
I wanted to beat him with a can of beans.
Not a happy camper out here in Camp WhatDaFuque.

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 1:44:27pm

re: #148 Mescalero09

Hey, don’t worry about it, dedicated teams of patriots are ensuring that our next election is going to be totally legit. Ha ha no.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 1:50:20pm

re: #148 Mescalero09

Mueller is and always has been a Republican.
Put that in your coffee tomorrow morning.
And what’s that canard about evil only succeeds when good men do nothing?
All I can think of is cut cards, loaded dice and a finger on the scale.
Coming from one viewpoint it’s always been a crooked table.
Fuck, they shot unarmed black men on video and walked.
On. Video.
Make America great again….
Fuck me.
Saw a guy in the grocery store today. Had his Sears shorts and polo and loafers and white socks and a fucking brand spanking new Trump 2020 hat. I just walked by looking at him and he never made eye contact.
I wanted to beat him with a can of beans.
Not a happy camper out here in Camp WhatDaFuque.

why beans, cousin?

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Mescalero09 Jul 24, 2019 • 1:51:33pm

re: #150 DangerMan

why beans, cousin?

Because it would have been perfect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 1:52:24pm

mistress he’s still married https://t.co/CnOpenDXJo

— Gareth Evans Gammonologist (@gareth0108) July 24, 2019

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 24, 2019 • 1:52:55pm

re: #149 Amory Blaine

Hey, don’t worry about it, dedicated teams of patriots are ensuring that our next election is going to be totally legit. Ha ha no.

Imagine a scenario where Trump wins by fewer than 2000 votes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 1:53:14pm

Hours since last gaffe by the Prime Minister: 0 #BorisJohnsonPM https://t.co/ppoYi7zqnB

— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) July 24, 2019

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danarchy Jul 24, 2019 • 1:56:14pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not entirely sure what the daily mirror is getting at there. Is that supposed to be expensive?

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Dr. Matt Jul 24, 2019 • 1:57:04pm

Has the MSM deemed Donny the “winner” today yet?

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Mescalero09 Jul 24, 2019 • 1:57:15pm

So in any case since today was either brilliant work by the Democrats or total vindication by the Republicans, all I can think of is Low Rent.
Now this is a low rent video.
But it’s good. I like the song. Nice version.
In that low rent type of way.
Or I do not know shit.
Good chance.
Maybe.
Ben Poole. British.
What a life.

back to work.

Ben Poole - Dirty Laundry [Official Music Video]

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 24, 2019 • 1:57:25pm

Sre: #155 danarchy

Not entirely sure what the daily mirror is getting at there. Is that supposed to be expensive?

Inexpensive (I think). She’s a mistress of the people.

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 1:57:41pm

“Currently?”
“Currently.” https://t.co/4I6inx1RZ9

— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) July 24, 2019

Optics, Chuck Todd, optics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:00:27pm

Trump, who responded to Mueller’s report by falsely claiming “complete and total exoneration,” now says Mueller didn’t have the right to exonerate him.

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 24, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:01:42pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

Yeah… but Congress couldn’t move on impeachment (or much of anything) until the report was finished, and the court case might drag on for a looong time.

Also, whether he said it or not, he had to consider what Barr might do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:01:50pm

Can’t say I predicted the Republican-led DOJ would be favorably citing the Obama administration’s course of action in the Fast and Furious probe, but here we are.

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:03:55pm

She has to be the only person over the age of six preparing for Christmas in July. https://t.co/bPW7sGBZU7

— Half An Onion (@HalfOnionInABag) July 24, 2019

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gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 2:05:37pm

Kazimir Malevich, The Knife Grinder (The Glittering Edge) 1912–13 pic.twitter.com/mduMEdah32

— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) July 24, 2019

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 2:08:22pm

his lack of vocabulary is so apparent during these statements. “a big thing” a “bad thing” a “strong thing.” this idiot. he makes bush sound like cicero.

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 24, 2019

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gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 2:08:35pm

Mumbia, India (real photograph) pic.twitter.com/nEeBDeVIm8

— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:09:12pm

LOTS HAPPENING: House Dems holding impromptu caucus meeting now.

So Pelosi, Nadler, Schiff newser on Mueller will be delayed to more like 5:15 (or beyond).

— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) July 24, 2019

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 2:12:20pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:14:17pm

Boris and his cabinet are off to a roaring start:

Liverpool right now.

Britain’s new prime minister is gross and Trump-like.

So the people proceeded to protest, immediately.

pic.twitter.com/d1wLspaHad

— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) July 24, 2019

Never forget. When asked had he read the Good Friday Agreement, Dominic Raab replied: “l haven’t sat down & gone through it. But used it as a reference tool.” This is the now the man, boy, who is Foreign Secretary. But Ireland is ready for you. Just try us.pic.twitter.com/3dynlGwgXf

— Dr. Jennifer Cassidy (@OxfordDiplomat) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 2:14:50pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is this Christmas in July thing? I have a channel that is playing non-stop Christmas movies.

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:14:54pm

re: #166 gocart mozart

America, 2021 after Trump gets re-elected.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 2:15:35pm

re: #161 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Yeah… but Congress couldn’t move on impeachment (or much of anything) until the report was finished, and the court case might drag on for a looong time.

Also, whether he said it or not, he had to consider what Barr might do.

Bullshit, Congress could have conducted a parallel investigation. They could have come to their own conclusions based on their own findings separate and apart from the Special Counsel investigation. They chose not to, because doing the actual work would be hard.

As for not subpoenaing Trump… I would have been arguing for that from day 1 if I were on the Special Counsel’s team. But if you don’t believe you’ll learn anything new, or if you believe you have enough to make your determination regarding criminal liability, I can understand not wasting judicial resources.

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:16:05pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boris and his cabinet are off to a roaring start:

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At least the Brits have a way of getting rid of him quickly, unlike us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:16:29pm

re: #170 MsJ

What is this Christmas in July thing? I have a channel that is playing non-stop Christmas movies.

Hallmark Channel is doing that

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 2:16:44pm

We’ve all seen Trump gloating. This wasn’t Trump gloating.

— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:17:05pm

re: #175 jaunte

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POTUS calling me Fake News ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ pic.twitter.com/8S7eR7mP5g

— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) July 24, 2019

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 2:17:54pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

So f-f-f-ff- defensive

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 2:18:53pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hallmark Channel is doing that

I am like GET THIS SHIT OFF OF MY GUIDE. I do not get it. We’re not celebrating a HOLYday, we’re commercializing Christmas year round.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:19:00pm

An international/national press corps covering the drama of Puerto Rico and its governor. Comments to come shortly after the President of the PR House said impeachment proceedings would begin if @ricardorossello didn’t resign. He can put the “final point” on this. #rickyrenuncia pic.twitter.com/oWXN0nR6jL

— Arelis R. Hernández (@arelisrhdz) July 24, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:20:53pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

America, 2021 after Trump gets re-elected.

Aren’t you one of the people who kept telling us in 2018 that we were naive fools to think we could take the House back?

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:22:05pm

re: #180 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Aren’t you one of the people who kept telling us in 2018 that we were naive fools to think we could take the House back?

The Senate.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:22:47pm

re: #172 KGxvi

Bullshit, Congress could have conducted a parallel investigation. They could have come to their own conclusions based on their own findings separate and apart from the Special Counsel investigation. They chose not to, because doing the actual work would be hard.

As for not subpoenaing Trump… I would have been arguing for that from day 1 if I were on the Special Counsel’s team. But if you don’t believe you’ll learn anything new, or if you believe you have enough to make your determination regarding criminal liability, I can understand not wasting judicial resources.

I believe the Repugs controlled both houses until January 2019. That would have been a very late start.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 2:23:15pm

re: #173 Skip Intro

At least the Brits have a way of getting rid of him quickly, unlike us.

Yeah, the Prime Minister has to call for elections. He got into office because the ruling party has avoided elections.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:24:53pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

The Senate.

Who the hell thought we could take back the Senate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:25:05pm

Sheffield Weather Update:

📹: https://t.co/hHSnrkceB9 pic.twitter.com/O3mHXO1IvP

— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 2:26:48pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

The Senate.

We had the Senate in 2016?

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:27:39pm

re: #186 MsJ

We had the Senate in 2016?

No. That’s why it says “take back”. Like we’re going to try to “take back” the Senate in 2020.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 2:28:21pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

No. That’s why it says “take back”.

Did you think that was really possible then?

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:29:23pm

re: #188 MsJ

Did you think that was really possible then?

Of course not, and I don’t think it’s possible in 2020 either.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 24, 2019 • 2:29:31pm

If we get the House and Senate in 2020 but Trump gets re-elected, does that increase the odds of impeachment hearings?

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:31:25pm

English street lunatic obtains first job, thanks to charitable gift of bath, shave, hot meal, and new suit from queen Elizabeth.

Refuses offer of haircut and skin-care. pic.twitter.com/YVkOUtFrVc

— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:31:27pm

South Korea says North Korea has fired unidentified projectile from the Wonsan area, Yonhap News reports.

— NBC News World (@NBCNewsWorld) July 24, 2019

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Skip Intro Jul 24, 2019 • 2:32:37pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just celebrating Trump’s great victory over Mueller today, I imagine.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jul 24, 2019 • 2:33:38pm

Our American society in a nutshell:

Nuance ✔︎ https://t.co/7hdb4AXYWv

— Paulogia, Internet Infidel 🎃 (@paulogia0) July 24, 2019

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 2:34:31pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Artists rendering of Christmas 2019 at the White House.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 2:35:21pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

If we get the House and Senate in 2020 but Trump gets re-elected, does that increase the odds of impeachment hearings?

I think that likelihood is zero

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 24, 2019 • 2:36:47pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

If we get the House and Senate in 2020 but Trump gets re-elected, does that increase the odds of impeachment hearings?

Inasmuch as a 2/3 majority in the Senate is needed, it would have to be a serious Blue Tsunami

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 2:37:19pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

If we get the House and Senate in 2020 but Trump gets re-elected, does that increase the odds of impeachment hearings?

Honestly, I don’t see it. Not of he’s reelected unless (big if) there’s proof he did something bad during that election (which he will but I’m talking proof). I think anything else would be seen as bitter apples.

Of course there’s losing the popular vote again vs the EC… So who knows.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 2:38:17pm

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Inasmuch as a 2/3 majority in the Senate is needed, it would have to be a serious Blue Tsunami

In the face of which Trump can only win if he carries both Moscow and Leningrad.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 2:38:51pm

re: #182 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I believe the Repugs controlled both houses until January 2019. That would have been a very late start.

Well then, it’s a very good thing we haven’t wasted the 6 months that the Dems controlled the House…

Oh, wait…

Yes, it would have been a late start. But what the fuck is the point if you’re not going to conduct oversight and investigations into the most corrupt/incompetent/lawless administration in history? And are we really better off now than we would have been if they’d have done some actual leg work over the last 6 months?

Lastly, for what it’s worth, there are several other areas of Trump’s corruption, graft, incompetence, unlawful/illegal activities that they could have been investigating instead of passing “messaging bills” that McConnell has spent the last six months using as toilet paper.

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 2:42:49pm

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Inasmuch as a 2/3 majority in the Senate is needed, it would have to be a serious Blue Tsunami

Democrats would have to hold all 12 of their Senate seats and win 20 of 22 Republican held seats in 2020 to have a 2/3 majority. In a resounding win, I’m guessing Dems would probably pick up, maybe 7 seats at most (Maine, Colorado, Arizona, Iowa, Alaska, North Carolina, Montana seem the most likely in that scenario, I think)

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gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 2:45:41pm

Oh my god. Watch this. #MuellerDay #mueller pic.twitter.com/AOzilLU3Uo

— Danny Deraney (@DannyDeraney) July 24, 2019

A lot of the questions today sure sounded familiar pic.twitter.com/ukJegJMGIP

— jordan (@JordanUhl) July 24, 2019

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 2:47:06pm

re: #202 gocart mozart

Impeach Hannity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:47:35pm

Pelosi just privately told her members that they need to stay focused - but also indicated that if they need to support an impeachment inquiry, she respects that and must do what’s best for their district, per sources. She said Dems need to move forward in courts

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 24, 2019

“She is open to it. She is open to it,” Jackie Speier said of Pelosi, adding that she believes she sounded more open to impeachment than she has previously, per @SunlenSerfaty

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:48:49pm

Maybe if Mueller had finished off his speech by stabbing a few onlookers w/ a broad sword? Would that have been better optics, perhaps? pic.twitter.com/f75Ga7Ek8C

— Cliff Schecter (@cliffschecter) July 24, 2019

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 2:49:56pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

They need to stay focused on what?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:50:13pm

How presidential. 🙄

This is an unhinged man freaking out & attempting to bully the MSM. He reinforces his lack of capacity to deal with anything that he doesn’t agree with.

This man has his finger on the nuke button. He is a #ClearAndPresentDanger.

pic.twitter.com/NVCbcC6l6b

— Justice Seeker ☮️ (@tizzywoman) July 24, 2019

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goddamnedfrank Jul 24, 2019 • 2:50:26pm

“This memo says I couldn’t indict this one specific criminal so I refused to form any opinion whatsoever about all his crimes that I meticulously documented and cannot possibly exonerate him of.”

Robert Mueller is a thought experiment that grew legs and decided to walk among us.

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) July 24, 2019

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 2:51:02pm

re: #206 KGxvi

They need to stay focused on what?

Squad v Pelosi mud wrestling.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:53:13pm

re: #200 KGxvi

Well then, it’s a very good thing we haven’t wasted the 6 months that the Dems controlled the House…

Oh, wait…

Yes, it would have been a late start. But what the fuck is the point if you’re not going to conduct oversight and investigations into the most corrupt/incompetent/lawless administration in history? And are we really better off now than we would have been if they’d have done some actual leg work over the last 6 months?

Lastly, for what it’s worth, there are several other areas of Trump’s corruption, graft, incompetence, unlawful/illegal activities that they could have been investigating instead of passing “messaging bills” that McConnell has spent the last six months using as toilet paper.

We’ve been over this so many times…

We only get one shot. I don’t think the votes were there for impeachment even in the House. As continuing inquiries turn up more and more, this is changing. (And we need an ironclad case.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:54:24pm

barf

Even Michael Moore agrees that the Dems and Mueller blew it! https://t.co/ZFPb50vi4v

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:54:53pm

When @chucktodd and Fox News scold the Democrats for Mueller’s “optics,” it’s germane to note Mueller is a Republican who was appointed and supervised by Trump’s Republican deputy AG, with much of Mueller’s staff composed of Republicans. So yeah, disastrous Democratic optics…?

— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 2:55:40pm

After falsely describing one of the key parts of the Mueller hearing and berating a reporter who correctly asked it, Trump tweets a quote from a Fox man who says it seems like the reporters weren’t watching. pic.twitter.com/ot0a6cIV7q

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 24, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:56:36pm

For the record, I think Mueller’s message today is that he had a job and did it. Now it’s up to Congress and the public.

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jaunte Jul 24, 2019 • 2:56:46pm

This seems like a good year for Congress to maybe cancel their August recess.

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) July 24, 2019

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 2:57:46pm

re: #215 jaunte

Where is the implementation work on the budget deal?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 2:58:27pm

re: #215 jaunte

Blasphemy! Sacrilege! Burn him with fire!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:00:10pm

#UPDATE Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was arrested and faces up to 30 days in prison, in an apparent move by the authorities to prevent a major protest rally this week https://t.co/H9yUMmUoel
📷 Maxim Zmeyev pic.twitter.com/AkKIYGTvvC

— AFP news agency (@AFP) July 24, 2019

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 3:00:15pm

re: #210 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

We’ve been over this so many times…

We only get one shot. I don’t think the votes were there for impeachment even in the House. As continuing inquiries turn up more and more, this is changing. (And we need an ironclad case.)

I agree we only get one shot. And I’ve never said the impeachment vote should happen immediately. But the inquiry - the investigation - must happen. There’s a very circular/cynical logic to saying we can’t investigate unless we have the votes, while knowing we can’t get the votes without the investigation.

The problem is that leadership seems rather uninterested in doing the work of investigation and oversight; so their not even willing to lay the ground work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:07:03pm

The police are keeping the protestors at bay at Downing Street - and they are not messing around. Which prime minister in modern history faces so much angry opposition from the very moment they take over? #FckBoris pic.twitter.com/NBRvxHoTbV

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) July 24, 2019

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 3:07:27pm

re: #219 KGxvi

I agree we only get one shot. And I’ve never said the impeachment vote should happen immediately. But the inquiry - the investigation - must happen. There’s a very circular/cynical logic to saying we can’t investigate unless we have the votes, while knowing we can’t get the votes without the investigation.

The problem is that leadership seems rather uninterested in doing the work of investigation and oversight; so their not even willing to lay the ground work.

I think this is exactly correct. We need some spines in the D House leadership.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 3:10:12pm

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Our American society in a nutshell:

Most of the world calls that the normal cycle of life, and would happen if Trump were reelected.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:12:25pm

re: #191 Skip Intro

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Bamm Bamm Rubble is now the Prime Minister of England.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 24, 2019 • 3:15:06pm

Chuck Todd: I have to say, the President acted very forcefully in locking all us reporters up. He showed drive and determination and I think the optics were good for him. That’s all I can say for now, as it’s time for my hourly whipping.

— dedc79 (@de79dc) July 24, 2019

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:15:37pm

Broadcast is live
Very likely local weather will cause a delay, and/or an abort
Plans are to take countdown to T-minus 30 seconds before aborting launch attempt

T-30 minutes until Falcon 9 launch of Dragon; team is monitoring weather conditions. Webcast will go live ~15 minutes before liftoff → https://t.co/gtC39uBC7z

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) July 24, 2019

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 3:17:17pm

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Weaselone Jul 24, 2019 • 3:19:48pm

re: #221 austin_blue

THEY ARE INVESTIGATING. Why exactly do you think they have all these court cases pending?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:22:12pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Broadcast is live
Very likely local weather will cause a delay, and/or an abort
Plans are to take countdown to T-minus 30 seconds before aborting launch attempt

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under T-minus 3 minutes, multiple no go weather factors in place

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:23:18pm

re: #226 plansbandc

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It’s so hot they don’t want customers using the freezers to cool off

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:23:29pm

Well we are now feeling the heat wave here in Los Angeles where it got to 95 today…Supposed to “cool off” at 89 tomorrow…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:24:50pm

The Democrats had nothing…pic.twitter.com/VUIMndS4lZ

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

The Democrats lost so BIG today. Their Party is in shambles right now…pic.twitter.com/WDnGSOFzZU

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 24, 2019

he didn’t watch one second of the actual hearings.
All he’s got is what Fox told him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:25:17pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

under T-minus 3 minutes, multiple no go weather factors in place

Scrubbed, next launch attempt tomorrow

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:28:32pm

Basically, Mueller needed to swing into testimony wearing this and chanting “Im-peach-ment!” for the pundit class to consider it an “optics win” for those in favor of holding the President accountable for his crimes. #MuellerHearing pic.twitter.com/S8W0UllFQU

— Pat Cunnane (@PatCunnane) July 24, 2019

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 3:29:30pm

That psychotic orange blob without even an eyelash in reality is our “president”. And I still don’t think anyone in power gives a fuck about doing something about it.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 24, 2019 • 3:30:34pm

re: #226 plansbandc

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Looks to me like they want to avoid the “Lick A Tub Of Ice Cream” selfies.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 3:33:02pm

This thread. Read it all. Really.

Mueller: I wrote a detailed, 400-page report explaining an attack on our country. I spent years on it. See also: indictments + people in prison.

Pundits: yes, but can you do it with jazz hands? A table flip? A racist tweet? Otherwise, we’ll be bored.

— Sara Danner Dukic (@saradannerdukic) July 24, 2019

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BeachDem Jul 24, 2019 • 3:33:42pm

re: #156 Dr. Matt

Has the MSM deemed Donny the “winner” today yet?

Well…

Generally, people express relief and joy by being cheery or saying nothing and letting facts speak. Trump often expresses delight by seeming angry. https://t.co/nrbWY18MPs

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT)

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 3:33:49pm

re: #227 Weaselone

THEY ARE INVESTIGATING. Why exactly do you think they have all these court cases pending?

They need to start calling it an Impeachment Inquiry. Because that is what it should be. The POTUS is a conman, a crook, and a racist.

Does anyone think the Drumpf didn’t launder Russian money through real estate transactions? Anyone? Does anyone think he did not do this to service his debt load to Deutsche Bank? Anyone?

He is a high crime and misdemeanor with legs.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 3:34:09pm

re: #234 plansbandc

That psychotic orange blob without even an eyelash in reality is our “president”. And I still don’t think anyone in power gives a fuck about doing something about it.

We are the people in power, and we have a task.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 3:34:12pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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he didn’t watch one second of the actual hearings.
All he’s got is what Fox told him.

I’m sure someone else has posted this, but this about wraps it up to me:

On the one hand the Mueller sputtered a bit. On the other, he said Trump wasn’t exonerated, could be charged after he left office, was “generally untruthful” in his answers, accused his team of lying, misleading and covering up, and called his love of WikiLeaks problematic

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:35:08pm

good grief

TRUMP: “If you listen to the internet, this was one of the worst performances in the history of our country … it was a fake set of facts that the Democrats used, and others, to try and do really an illegal overthrow, but we’re going find out about that.” pic.twitter.com/tebNoqdjfB

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 24, 2019

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 3:37:09pm

re: #239 Decatur Deb

I don’t think we have any power at all. When minority rules and does the opposite of what the majority wants, when said minority cheats to stay in power and there’s no one stopping them, then we have no power.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 3:37:43pm

re: #219 KGxvi

I agree we only get one shot. And I’ve never said the impeachment vote should happen immediately. But the inquiry - the investigation - must happen. There’s a very circular/cynical logic to saying we can’t investigate unless we have the votes, while knowing we can’t get the votes without the investigation.

The problem is that leadership seems rather uninterested in doing the work of investigation and oversight; so their not even willing to lay the ground work.

Whereas I would say that they’ve been quietly doing the groundwork since the session started, and sentiment for taking the next step has been growing.

After the August recess would be a good time to start taking the next steps.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 3:38:22pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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I can’t listen because I take every opportunity available to mute him, especially in the helicopter sprays, but I’m so tempted to make an exception this time.

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 3:38:36pm

What good is bringing out the vote when they will just dump our votes and “win” the election? I think we’re finished as a country.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 3:39:46pm

re: #242 plansbandc

I don’t think we have any power at all. When minority rules and does the opposite of what the majority wants, when said minority cheats to stay in power and there’s no one stopping them, then we have no power.

Don’t mope, organize.
No one is going to fly in here on a dragon to melt these motherfuckers.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 3:40:54pm

re: #230 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well we are now feeling the heat wave here in Los Angeles where it got to 95 today…Supposed to “cool off” at 89 tomorrow…

I was just thinking that it’s too bloody hot… but it’s 81. I’ll just slink away quietly now.

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 3:41:32pm

re: #245 plansbandc

What good is bringing out the vote when they will just dump our votes and “win” the election? I think we’re finished as a country.

We will have to bring it like our lives depend on it.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 3:42:05pm

Pundits say no new legal ground today? Wrong.@RepMikeQuigley set up a new legal argument for impeachment:
The statute of limitations means a president could be permanently above the law.
Impeachment could be the only opportunity to hold Trump accountable or even accuse him: https://t.co/X1lgktVzMW

— Jed Shugerman (@jedshug) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 3:42:16pm

Fuck Boris Johnson. Fuck Trump. Fuck Brexit. Fuck Katie Hopkins. Fuck Farage. Fuck Rees-Mogg. Fuck all this toxic, nationalistic, elitist anti-elite, paradoxical populist dumbass simplistic reactionary militaristic dangerous xenophobic bollocks. Send them away on a big lying bus.

— Matt Haig (@matthaig1) July 23, 2019

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KGxvi Jul 24, 2019 • 3:42:34pm

re: #243 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Whereas I would say that they’ve been quietly doing the groundwork since the session started, and sentiment for taking the next step has been growing.

After the August recess would be a good time to start taking the next steps.

I hope you’re right

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 24, 2019 • 3:47:51pm

Jerk wings pic.twitter.com/mQo6supyAN

— Pie Overlord (@Pie_Overlord) July 24, 2019

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 3:51:28pm

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

Jerk wings

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gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 3:52:37pm

Q-Nuts and Republicans are the same people

Q tagged you, Senator Cruz!

Thank you for your leadership, and for asking that Antifa be investigated! We must stop all acts of terror against peace-loving Americans!#WWG1WGA #MAGA #KAG

— Charlene Rakhshani (@CharRakhshani) July 23, 2019

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:53:22pm

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

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Brings back memories of Koo Koo Roo Chicken. Minichain in Los Angeles where skinless chicken was marinated in yogurt and vegetable juice for 24 hours then flame broiled. Great low carb sides of cucumbers and tomatoes marinated in HVOO and White Vinegar. Delicious stuff.

But then the main store got burned down in the Rodney King riots and insurance stiffed the business owner. He had to sell the business to another company that cheapened everything up and the chain went out of business around 2000.

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DangerMan Jul 24, 2019 • 3:54:58pm

These are all lazy fucking narratives.

If you read the report
or listened to Mueller’s testimony
the only conclusion you’d come to is
that Trump and his team are criminals

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 3:56:24pm

re: #256 DangerMan

These are all lazy fucking narratives.

If you read the report
or listened to Mueller’s testimony
the only conclusion you’d come to is
that Trump and his team are criminals

I knew that in 2015. So all this is psychodrama.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:58:09pm

Qwazy Q relatives said that Trump would declare martial law at 8AM Eastern time.

He didn’t

They said I would be rounded up.

I wasn’t.

I did ask what’s the next asinine thing they will be suckered into believing.

…cricket chirps…

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 3:58:43pm

This is Atticus. He attended the Ohana Surf Dog Competition with @TitosVodka last weekend. Would like to know how you think he did. 14/10 you were fabulous buddy #ad #vodkafordogpeople pic.twitter.com/XewUpgAQNH

— WeRateDogs™ (@dog_rates) July 24, 2019

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 3:59:50pm

I couldn’t help goofing on the Qbot in my office. Asked her if JFK Jr. was locked in the same eternal cell as Xenu.

Didn’t get an answer…

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 4:02:55pm

re: #242 plansbandc

I don’t think we have any power at all. When minority rules and does the opposite of what the majority wants, when said minority cheats to stay in power and there’s no one stopping them, then we have no power.

Welp, I’m not going to dig a hole, jump in, yell “Resistance is futile!”, and pull the dirt over me and die.

If you want a better country, you need to be a better citizen, as Jim Wright says. I’m not going to give up. I’m not a quitter, even in Texas, where we “cannot win a State-wide election”.

I will continue to resist, and persist, on a local level.

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 4:04:19pm

Max Boot.

Mueller has marshaled copious evidence to support impeachment, but the American public doesn’t seem to care. Who can bother to read a 448-page report when the Trump show is on? Being entertaining is more important these days than being virtuous or competent. Mueller may be an infinitely better person than Trump, but he is an infinitely worse television performer, and that is all that seems to matter in our debased age.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 4:05:35pm

re: #261 austin_blue

Welp, I’m not going to dig a hole, jump in, yell “Resistance is futile!”, and pull the dirt over me and die.

If you want a better country, you need to be a better citizen, as Jim Wright says. I’m not going to give up. I’m not a quitter, even in Texas, where we “cannot win a State-wide election”.

I will continue to resist, and persist, on a local level.

A key is not to be isolated. It’s critical to join with like-minded people IRL, not just on LGF. They’re out there, even here in Crimson Tide country.

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 4:09:51pm

BREAKING: @realDonaldTrump just vetoed three bills prohibiting arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) July 24, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 24, 2019 • 4:11:10pm

re: #263 Decatur Deb

A key is not to be isolated. It’s critical to join with like-minded people IRL, not just on LGF. They’re out there, even here in Crimson Tide country.

…and will be really glad to meet you.

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 4:13:22pm

“In 1969, when black Americans were still prevented from swimming alongside whites, Mr. Rogers decided to invite Officer Clemmons to join him and cool his feet in a pool, breaking a well-known color barrier”

Never forget ❤ pic.twitter.com/aEOkDsraRr

— StanceGrounded (@_SJPeace_) July 24, 2019

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Mescalero09 Jul 24, 2019 • 4:14:53pm

And today Rutger Hauer passed on.

Blade Runner - Final scene, “Tears in Rain” Monologue (HD)

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 4:15:11pm

re: #263 Decatur Deb

A key is not to be isolated. It’s critical to join with like-minded people IRL, not just on LGF. They’re out there, even here in Crimson Tide country.

Exactly. Now, if I lived in Tyler, it’d be harder because, well, Gohmert! is re-elected every cycle. Here in South Austin, we can shake things up in a couple R-Districts which were gerrymandered to elect R’s. How many Congress Critters do we have representing various areas of the City? Seven.

Seven! We are the 11th largest TV market in the US and the largest City in the country without a home-based Rep in Congress with a compact district. Our Congressional representation runs from DFW to San Antonio to the Houston suburbs.

We have been carved up like fish bait.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:18:21pm

If you thought Trump got beat to hell today by the #MuellerHearing, it just got a whole lot worse.

He also lost a dismissal motion on a Trump Org multi-level marketing scam in SDNY’s civil court.

Here comes the next class-action fraud lawsuit.https://t.co/Jy6Tg6yKPU

— Grant Stern (@grantstern) July 24, 2019

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:18:32pm

re: #254 gocart mozart

As long as they’re not stopping white people attacking minorities as the FBI says, right?

— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) July 24, 2019

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:21:50pm

re: #249 Barefoot Grin

Which is the ultimate argument for being able to indict a sitting president.

— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:22:17pm

The government of Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rossello is collapsing. It has been a chaotic day, fueled by the near near silence of his staff. We were just told that the Governor is working on an address for the Puerto Rican people that he will deliver tonight. pic.twitter.com/boyl2iv4Yn

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 24, 2019

We just saw police in riot gear, some with less lethal weapons, heading from the Governors mansion to a holding area, about 30 yards from protesters. pic.twitter.com/9D89pgvfnF

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 24, 2019

Going live right now from Puerto Rico on CBSN
Watch live: https://t.co/oHZJcq6ose

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 24, 2019

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:24:50pm

re: #245 plansbandc

What good is bringing out the vote when they will just dump our votes and “win” the election? I think we’re finished as a country.

The minority in charge is counting on that attitude.

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 4:26:17pm

re: #273 Belafon

Rest assured, I’m voting. But I have zero faith my vote or any vote against Trump will matter.

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 4:27:03pm

re: #267 Mescalero09

Hobo With A Shotgun, RIP.

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 4:27:18pm

re: #273 Belafon

The minority in charge is counting on that attitude.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Also, a Jill Stein, 2020, version 2.0.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 4:30:57pm

re: #266 MsJ

“In 1969, when black Americans were still prevented from swimming alongside whites, Mr. Rogers decided to invite Officer Clemmons to join him and cool his feet in a pool, breaking a well-known color barrier”

Per the Mr Rogers story, it wasn’t just a color barrier. Francois Clemmons was a gay man in 1950s Pittsburgh. He did 98 of Fred Rogers’ children’s shows, and to make that happen they had to agree to a DADT.

(He was also an opera powerhouse, as so many of the Rogers team were strong local musicians.)

imdb.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:31:21pm

Mueller’s report is damning and his testimony confirmed its most damning aspects on camera for those who didn’t read it. The type that debases our national life by covering politics like a sport calls it a disappointment because sober professionalism lacks the air of spectacle. https://t.co/xR2Gw7SNPm

— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) July 24, 2019

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MsJ Jul 24, 2019 • 4:31:40pm

re: #273 Belafon

The minority in charge is counting on that attitude.

Not just counting on it, but doing everything they can to encourage it - to discourage as many Democratic voters as possible.

They need that. To win and retain power.

We need to stand strong. And I say this as someone who is discouraged to the point of collapse periodically.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:32:18pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now that’s a way to attack the press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:32:59pm

Asylum Seekers That Followed Trump Rule Now Don’t Qualify Because of New Trump Rule https://t.co/tIHqPso1tP pic.twitter.com/mB2lvBmEcY

— GovExec (@GovExec) July 24, 2019

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 4:34:12pm

re: #274 plansbandc

Rest assured, I’m voting. But I have zero faith my vote or any vote against Trump will matter.

Our personal vote alone won’t do it. To get unscrewable numbers, each of us has to replicate their vote—get one or several fence-sitters to the polls. We need a 60-40 election.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:35:27pm

re: #279 MsJ

Not just counting on it, but doing everything they can to encourage it - to discourage as many Democratic voters as possible.

They need that. To win and retain power.

We need to stand strong. And I say this as someone who is discouraged to the point of collapse periodically.

It’s very hard when we read this stuff constantly. But we need to take the same advice I say to people who talk about a high crime rate and how people are just waiting to attack them: compare what you read with what it’s like outside. There are plenty of people doing the right thing, helping their neighbors, standing up for those who can’t, etc. We’re also fighting to keep that going.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 4:38:32pm

Republicans can only go so far before they take that one fatal step that destroys them.

That time is coming.

But as I’ve aid before it is so sad for me to be actually living in a time where this country will implode when the Republicans take that one fatal step.

We already see the rest of the world turning on us. They will dump the dollar as the reserve currency and also dump American stocks. As Gore Vidal observed when he was writing Burr, you cannot exist as a Republic and and Empire. The minute you embrace the call of Empire is when your downfall begins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:42:19pm

What. Do. They. Have. On. Him??? https://t.co/enNGUJ8THl

— Tim Kaine (@timkaine) July 24, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:44:58pm

BREAKING: North Korea fires 2 unidentified projectiles, South Korea says https://t.co/lQ8scAYQvK pic.twitter.com/7hcNtFS8dl

— CBS News (@CBSNews) July 24, 2019

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 4:47:32pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That picture of him with the Golden Orb thingie?

Oh, right, follow the money.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 4:48:21pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The answer is in his tax returns.

Hoping against hope that a whistleblower will leak those returns and put them on the Net!

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 24, 2019 • 4:48:38pm

re: #284 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans can only go so far before they take that one fatal step that destroys them.

That time is coming.

But as I’ve aid before it is so sad for me to be actually living in a time where this country will implode when the Republicans take that one fatal step.

We already see the rest of the world turning on us. They will dump the dollar as the reserve currency and also dump American stocks. As Gore Vidal observed when he was writing Burr, you cannot exist as a Republic and and Empire. The minute you embrace the call of Empire is when your downfall begins.

Trump does not look on us as an Empire nor as anything more than a banana republic. He is clearly not embracing the call of empire. His only interest is in enriching himself not in expanding or maintaining our power as a nation. He doesn’t care if the economy collapses as long as his coffers are filled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:49:22pm

jeebus

The US Navy sailed a warship through a contested waterway as Beijing warns Taiwan that it would not rule out using force to block any move toward formal independence https://t.co/LNIsO8FXYP pic.twitter.com/OlkZoNuzDT

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 24, 2019

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Amory Blaine Jul 24, 2019 • 4:49:41pm

As a serial updinger I beg of you, please move the report button!!

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Old Liberal Jul 24, 2019 • 4:52:02pm

It’s ok to be discouraged from time to time. I’m sure all of us will vote when the time comes. Some will find additional involvement. It’s always possible we’ll lose the Republic. My take is if that happens the collective we don’t deserve one. Have a plan b if you feel vulnerable and don’t be afraid to act on it early. None of us deserve to sit with the reactionaries and suffer for their stupidity. Your plan b might end up being far better than your plan a no matter what happens.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 4:52:31pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Oh goody. Not only has Trump fucked up Korea he’s now fucking up Taiwan too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:53:10pm

Trump says he’s going to West Virginia which is #1 or #2 in economic growth. It was 19th in 2018. pic.twitter.com/8nMF00eKIj

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 24, 2019

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Old Liberal Jul 24, 2019 • 4:54:59pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve been to WV. It’s full of #1 and #2.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 4:55:00pm

re: #292 Old Liberal

Hate to be an Exceptional-American, but if we go there’s not much holding back the night.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 4:56:42pm

As I sat in my car waiting for my son to get off of work and listening to NPR for a few minutes, I got to hear Texas Congressman Will Hurd (R). I gotta say, his words on the border crisis against (softly) Trump policy, and his straightforward, non-partisan questions to Mueller today make me think his days in the GOP may be numbered. But it was great to hear him as a mostly lone voice of reason in his party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 4:56:43pm

A federal judge has unsealed court records that confirm a former business associate of President Donald Trump cooperated extensively with the FBI on matters ranging from organized crime to Al Qaida https://t.co/diCVu3XeLc

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 24, 2019

Felix Sater

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 4:56:54pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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The reason it is a “contested waterway” is that international law does not support the PRC’s claim of sovereignty. That’s open ocean, and if the PRC wants to attack a Navy destroyer being there, they can, and will, get fucked right up the ass.

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Old Liberal Jul 24, 2019 • 4:58:16pm

re: #296 Decatur Deb

Hate to be an Exceptional-American, but if we go there’s not much holding back the night.

Nope. Just billionaires carving it up.

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Decatur Deb Jul 24, 2019 • 4:59:12pm

re: #300 Old Liberal

Nope. Just billionaires carving it up.

And 95% of the world’s nukes in the wrong hands.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 4:59:39pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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We do that every so often because China is trying to assert rights over more than just their internationally recognized water.

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 5:01:24pm

re: #297 Barefoot Grin

As I sat in my car waiting for my son to get off of work and listening to NPR for a few minutes, I got to hear Texas Congressman Will Hurd (R). I gotta say, his words on the border crisis against (softly) Trump policy, and his straightforward, non-partisan questions to Mueller today make me think his days in the GOP may be numbered. But it was great to hear him as a mostly lone voice of reason in his party.

Well, he’s a brown ex-CIA guy with a District that runs from west San Antonio to east El Paso, over 400 miles. Also, a friend of Beto. He’s an old line R, not a gasper.

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Old Liberal Jul 24, 2019 • 5:03:31pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

And 95% of the world’s nukes in the wrong hands.

When Bush II was in, he caused me anxiety and panic attacks. A psychologist said to me “you’re a French farmer standing in your field watching German tanks go past in 1940. What are you going to do?” A little que sera sera goes a long way.

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prairiefire Jul 24, 2019 • 5:07:46pm

re: #304 Old Liberal

You are so correct! Looking for kindness everywhere I go. Trying to spread a bit of love around. Concentrating on “love”.

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austin_blue Jul 24, 2019 • 5:09:10pm

re: #304 Old Liberal

When Bush II was in, he caused me anxiety and panic attacks. A psychologist said to me “you’re a French farmer standing in your field watching German tanks go past in 1940. What are you going to do?” A little que sera sera goes a long way.

If you are a Jewish French farmer, anxiety and panic attacks are entirely appropriate.

Context.

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Eventual Carrion Jul 24, 2019 • 5:10:23pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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If you listen to (a very, very small portion of) the internet, Donny. And if you listen to another very, very small portion of the internet, you believe the earth is flat. And if you listen to another very, very small portion of the internet, you believe that aliens are living inside the earth and enter through big holes at the poles. There’s always been a lot of loons on the internet.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 24, 2019 • 5:10:41pm

There’s still 18 months until January 2021.

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Eventual Carrion Jul 24, 2019 • 5:11:45pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Don’t mope, organize.
No one is going to fly in here on a dragon to melt these motherfuckers.

But that would be cool.

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Teddy's Person Jul 24, 2019 • 5:11:50pm

re: #246 Decatur Deb

No one is going to fly in here on a dragon to melt these motherfuckers.

Now that would be some optics.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 24, 2019 • 5:12:55pm

This article by David Frum is utterly sickening.

This is the American equivalent of wealthy German Jews saying “He’s not talking about us! He means those stinking Bolsheviks in Poland!” Trump is NOT YOUR FRIEND! #TheResistance #Resist #AntiSemitism https://t.co/SI1c5TWYax

— Pie Overlord (@Pie_Overlord) July 25, 2019

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 5:14:11pm

Just a reminder, folks.

The House of Representatives voted to impeach Andrew Johnson on February 24, 1868.

Senate Trial began March, 6 1868.

Oh and the Presidential Election just happened to occur in November 1868…

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Jebediah, RBG Jul 24, 2019 • 5:14:40pm

re: #66 KGxvi

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

I always do, but not as much as dine-in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:15:20pm

Trump couldn’t be acting guiltier about Mueller Testimony if he started tweeting in Russian.

— Paul Lander (@paul_lander) July 24, 2019

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William Lewis Jul 24, 2019 • 5:16:54pm

re: #304 Old Liberal

When Bush II was in, he caused me anxiety and panic attacks. A psychologist said to me “you’re a French farmer standing in your field watching German tanks go past in 1940. What are you going to do?” A little que sera sera goes a long way.

Remember the numbers, the insignia on the bumpers and the phone number of Army HQ. Then get out of air raid danger zone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:18:19pm

NEW: A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from enforcing new asylum restrictions for people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. https://t.co/t3DS8zDruo

— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) July 25, 2019

A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from enforcing new asylum restrictions for people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.

Wednesday’s ruling by U.S. District Judge Jon Tigar in San Francisco came hours after a judge in Washington decided to let the rules stand while lawsuits played out in court.

The policy would prevent most migrants from seeking asylum in the U.S. if they passed through another country first.

It targets tens of thousands of Central Americans who cross Mexico every month to try to enter the U.S. It also would affect asylum seekers from Africa, Asia and South America who arrive regularly at the southern border.

Legal groups argued the proposal was barred by federal law establishing how people can seek asylum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:19:49pm

Jon Stewart: “[Rand Paul] called me a guttersnipe. I have a mind to call him a scallawag and a ragamuffin. I’ll escalate this.” https://t.co/oubbRYy4Oz pic.twitter.com/hl1G3fiqM7

— The Hill (@thehill) July 24, 2019

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Patricia Kayden Jul 24, 2019 • 5:20:58pm

re: #245 plansbandc

What good is bringing out the vote when they will just dump our votes and “win” the election? I think we’re finished as a country.

Why are you ignoring the midterm elections? Our side came out and we flipped the House and a few states. We’re not finished if we come out in droves. Too many Americans sat out 2016.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 24, 2019 • 5:21:21pm

re: #297 Barefoot Grin

As I sat in my car waiting for my son to get off of work and listening to NPR for a few minutes, I got to hear Texas Congressman Will Hurd (R). I gotta say, his words on the border crisis against (softly) Trump policy, and his straightforward, non-partisan questions to Mueller today make me think his days in the GOP may be numbered. But it was great to hear him as a mostly lone voice of reason in his party.

I am curious — was Will Hurd the only Republican who seemed sane in questioning Mueller? Does anyone know?

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 24, 2019 • 5:21:44pm

re: #66 KGxvi

It’s been forever since I’ve been to a buffet, so I’m really not sure.

Related question: tipping on take out? Yes or no?

There is a Mom and Pop Chinese restaurant that I always leave a generous tip for delivery because they know I’m diabetic and they will stir fry low carb dishes for me such as peapods and chicken.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 24, 2019 • 5:24:57pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

The police are keeping the protestors at bay at Downing Street - and they are not messing around. Which prime minister in modern history faces so much angry opposition from the very moment they take over? #FckBoris pic.twitter.com/NBRvxHoTbV

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) July 24, 2019

I’m glad to see that at least some Britons, quite a few in fact, have learned from our hideous fate at the hands of the Trump Horror.

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Teddy's Person Jul 24, 2019 • 5:27:10pm

Because, of course they did

Senate Republicans blocked two election security bills and a cybersecurity measure on Wednesday in the wake of former special counsel Robert Mueller warning about meddling attempts during his public testimony before congressional lawmakers. … Source: The Hill

I just ordered Rosetta Stone to learn Russian. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:28:37pm

Worked like a charm. 😉 https://t.co/ljHKx6qpWm

— Biscuit (@BiscuitsWorld) July 24, 2019

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Barefoot Grin Jul 24, 2019 • 5:31:25pm

re: #319 Hecuba’s daughter

I am curious — was Will Hurd the only Republican who seemed sane in questioning Mueller? Does anyone know?

I wish I could answer that. But in my spotty listening I would say “yes.” Some were angry assholes, some were reasonable assholes, some were southern-drawl spitfire assholes—I think you get the common denominator. They all were attacking the validity of the investigation itself. Hurd, who I guess is former CIA, seems to understand the seriousness of the investigation and was the only one I heard to ask honest questions about how to avoid more going forward.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 5:31:52pm

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m glad to see that at least some Britons, quite a few in fact, have learned from our hideous fate at the hands of the Trump Horror.

There’s also the issue that no one voted “for” him in any fashion. From what I’ve seen, even though elections are party centered, people have an idea of who the prime minister will be if a party wins, which can shape their vote. Johnson became prime minister without a public vote.

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stpaulbear Jul 24, 2019 • 5:32:23pm

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m glad to see that at least some Britons, quite a few in fact, have learned from our hideous fate at the hands of the Trump Horror.

I wish we could put a large angry crowd like that in front of the White House (and Mitch McConnell’s house) every day.

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 5:33:14pm

This fucking Trump administration takes it out of me, I have to admit. It’s wearying to watch things fall apart while everybody pretends it’s business as usual, and you can’t do anything to affect what’s coming except yell into the void.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:36:25pm

1. Facebook agreed to a $5 billion fine today — in part because Facebook broke the rules in 2016 to give the Trump campaign more data (via Cambridge Analytica)

Not much has changed

Today, Facebook is spreading Trump campaign lies for profit https://t.co/nbCuhOIbXU

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) July 25, 2019

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 24, 2019 • 5:37:23pm

This is real and various RWNJs are excited over it. It seems as likely to be mocking Cheeto as honoring him but, given the hyena morals of his supporters, there may not be much difference.

Looks like wholesale piracy going on, so I will not link to the source.

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Ace Rothstein Jul 24, 2019 • 5:37:31pm

This bullshit about Trump saying that Mueller “begged” him to be FBI director again. You can’t be FBI director twice.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 5:38:04pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If all we wanted to do was resist Trump, we wouldn’t need to go full-blown socialism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 5:38:37pm

Okay, hear me out: what if every time a cable TV pundit said the word “optics” they received a small electrical shock?

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) July 25, 2019

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A Mom Anon Jul 24, 2019 • 5:39:57pm

re: #327 Charles Johnson

I’m really struggling to not just lose my shit and begin screaming at people. But nope. I am a grown up. But wow, are some of the people around me just joyously assholes who love shitting on anyone trying to just be a decent human. I’ve decided I have to do something kind just to cancel out one asshole. If I can cancel out more I will. Today just cemented my stubbornness on this. Fuck these unAmerican fucks.

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 5:40:50pm

And it was just demonstrated very clearly to us that unless we use the only tool the Constitution gives us to stop a rogue president, he’ll continue to wreak havoc on the US. And it will get worse, because he’ll feel invincible. https://t.co/dPYloFXcgb

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 24, 2019 • 5:42:59pm

NOT Florida but close by:

Georgia woman gets cold fries at McDonald’s, barges into kitchen and fires gun

A Georgia woman who reportedly fired a gun into the floor of a McDonald’s kitchen Monday afternoon had a pretty wild motivation for her crime: cold french fries.

The owner of a McDonald’s franchise in Garden City, Ga., said the woman received her order, then returned to the counter to complain about her cold food, according to WTOC.

As the manager went into the kitchen to retrieve hotter fries, the woman allegedly followed him with a gun. She then barged into the kitchen and fired a shot into the floor, according to the owner.

She fled the scene but police did catch up with her and toss her in jail.

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wrenchwench Jul 24, 2019 • 5:43:04pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tweets by JuddLegum
can save us. Or br a big help.

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gocart mozart Jul 24, 2019 • 5:45:30pm

I’ll put this big vagina clip right herehttps://t.co/3lYmCKvizv

— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) July 25, 2019

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Old Liberal Jul 24, 2019 • 5:48:57pm

re: #335 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

NOT Florida but close by:

Georgia woman gets cold fries at McDonald’s, barges into kitchen and fires gun

She fled the scene but police did catch up with her and toss her in jail.

We should all feel safer

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 5:51:10pm

I now think there’s no comparison between Pence and Trump - if Trump is forced out of office and Pence becomes acting president, he’s a creep, and he’s terrible, and he could still do terrible shit, but he wouldn’t have the same cultish support.

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 24, 2019 • 5:53:11pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

I now think there’s no comparison between Pence and Trump - if Trump is forced out of office and Pence becomes acting president, he’s a creep, and he’s terrible, and he could still do terrible shit, but he wouldn’t have the same cultish support.

And he won’t get reelected.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 5:53:43pm

The Census Bureau has been testing the 2020 census questionnaire online since late June and early July. Printed forms for those who didn’t answer online began arriving in homes in recent days and some include a question on citizenship. https://t.co/OaP3QFgWlc

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 25, 2019

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 24, 2019 • 5:54:53pm

re: #341 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Exactly what I thought was going to fucking happen. They just did it anyway.

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 5:55:13pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

One thing that would be better immediately. I don’t think Pence will use nukes.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 5:57:56pm

re: #236 MsJ

This thread. Read it all. Really.

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I would have settled for mueller showing up with a pulse and willing to read and explain his own work. That was too much to expect.

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b.d. Jul 24, 2019 • 5:58:09pm

re: #343 plansbandc

One thing that would be better immediately. I don’t think Pence will use nukes.

Unless God tells him to.

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 5:58:42pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

Living in NM, I’m sure we will get one with the citizenship question. It’s not going to be answered.

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plansbandc Jul 24, 2019 • 5:59:23pm

re: #345 b.d.

Good point. But I don’t think he’ll have a temper tantrum and nuke California.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:00:22pm

re: #338 Old Liberal

We should all feel safer

Cold McDonald’s fries really do make you want to kill someone, in all fairness.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 24, 2019 • 6:01:42pm

re: #343 plansbandc

One thing that would be better immediately. I don’t think Pence will use nukes.

But Pence may be more likely to start a war with Iran. Trump, for all his sins, is not interested in initiating a war. Pence, however, may go along with Bolton and Pompeo.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Jul 24, 2019 • 6:01:51pm

re: #340 I Would Prefer Not To

And he won’t get reelected.

And also Israel will recoil knowing a US President fully believes in the Apocalyptic End Times mythology that is to use Jews and Israel as mere cannon fodder and catalyst for Rapture.

Utter shite and madness that Trump is glad to exploit but does not embrace above his own wealth and ego. Pence is no such animal. He is a true believer and Israel knows it.

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Ace Rothstein Jul 24, 2019 • 6:02:47pm

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

“Trump, for all his sins, is not interested in initiating a war.”

Yet.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:04:28pm

re: #350 Rocky-in-Connecticut

And also Israel will recoil knowing a US President fully believes in the Apocalyptic End Times mythology that is to use Jews and Israel as mere cannon fodder and catalyst for Rapture.

Utter shite and madness that Trump is glad to exploit but does not embrace above his own wealth and ego. Pence is no such animal. He is a true believer and Israel knows it.

Pence will triple down on persecuting GLBT people. Expect adverse actions taken against service members etc.

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Ace Rothstein Jul 24, 2019 • 6:06:13pm

re: #350 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Reminds me of that scene in The Sopranos when Tony is in the hospital and gets a visit from an evangelical preacher. Hesh (a Jewish character) and his daughter are there also visiting.

Hesh’s Daughter: “You can disagree with Evangelicals, but they are great friends of the Jews, because Israel is the holy land.”

Hesh to his daughter: “You wait.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 24, 2019 • 6:08:36pm

Rutger Hauer, actor best known for his role in ‘Blade Runner’, has died. https://t.co/RRdcvNfUqY pic.twitter.com/6LWWoRTlMN

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 25, 2019

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 24, 2019 • 6:09:38pm

re: #350 Rocky-in-Connecticut

And also Israel will recoil knowing a US President fully believes in the Apocalyptic End Times mythology that is to use Jews and Israel as mere cannon fodder and catalyst for Rapture.

Utter shite and madness that Trump is glad to exploit but does not embrace above his own wealth and ego. Pence is no such animal. He is a true believer and Israel knows it.

I think Israel would be fine with that; Bibi would figure that he could manipulate Pence even more easily than Trump. After all, Bibi knows that Trump could commit to something at 2PM and then completely deny saying it at 2:05. You cannot rely on anything Trump promises. Pence is not likely to exhibit such behavior.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 6:10:40pm

Literally Maggie Haberman is on CNN right now informing us that Trump’s team feels “really good about today.” So: in all the options for framing SHE is the one who is pushing the ‘let’s move on, nothing to see’. She could choose to frame it anyway she wants. It’s pathetic. https://t.co/uQpebtqoYz

— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) July 25, 2019

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 24, 2019 • 6:10:47pm

re: #353 Ace Rothstein

Reminds me of that scene in The Sopranos when Tony is in the hospital and gets a visit from an evangelical preacher. Hesh (a Jewish character) and his daughter are there also visiting.

Hesh’s Daughter: “You can disagree with Evangelicals, but they are great friends of the Jews, because Israel is the holy land.”

Hesh to his daughter: “You wait.”

David Frum lists all the ways the Trump cult is anti-Semitic but then insists “They don’t really hate us this time.” Yes he really is that fucked up.

“What if the old community of interest between American Jews and other minorities is dissolving, leaving only the weaker tie of a community of values?” @davidfrum on the test Trump poses to the Jewish community: https://t.co/2FLdMUDBtv

— The Atlantic (@TheAtlantic) July 24, 2019

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Charles Johnson Jul 24, 2019 • 6:14:24pm

It’s entirely possible that if impeachment proceedings cause things to change dramatically and the Trump dam starts to burst, it could wash away many more people than we think.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019

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wrenchwench Jul 24, 2019 • 6:18:09pm

re: #358 Charles Johnson

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It could take more than one Democrat. Might explain some of the foot-dragging.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 24, 2019 • 6:20:56pm

Glad that Mayor Lightfoot and the @ACLU gave their input… this is a HUGE violation of privacy by the Chicago Police Department and a way that they intimidate people… https://t.co/iMcIvTB0dM

— Naomi Schmahl #nokidsincages (@SchmahlNaomi) July 25, 2019

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A Mom Anon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:24:12pm

re: #360 Patricia Kayden
Oh well since they’re sorry (that they got called on their shit) it’s all just great. People need to be fired and run out of law enforcement over shit like this.

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:25:03pm

This is why I say it would be a HUGE mistake to attempt impeachment (as much as I personally want to.) The media just simply doesn’t have the capacity to handle something so serious. Every day, the headline will be “Who Won This Hearing?” It won’t be about substance AT ALL.

— OUFENIX (D) (@oufenix) July 24, 2019

Along with Mike’s hot take:

Today was a good day for President @realDonaldTrump, our Administration & the American people! Grateful to the @HouseGOP for taking a strong stand shedding light on the truth—No collusion, No obstruction, Case Closed!

— Vice President Mike Pence (@VP) July 24, 2019

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Belafon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:25:58pm

Now for something really important:

I don’t normally post political tweets but this emu playing with a sprinkler is very important. pic.twitter.com/Pei8ZhaeZ8

— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) July 24, 2019

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 24, 2019 • 6:27:44pm

re: #357 The Pie Overlord!

David Frum lists all the ways the Trump cult is anti-Semitic but then insists “They don’t really hate us this time.” Yes he really is that fucked up.

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Those who worship Bibi, orthodox and non-orthodox alike (probably includes David Frum), are already firm supporters of Trump. Is Frum claiming there are some who voted for HRC who are now considering Trump?

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 24, 2019 • 6:31:18pm

re: #364 Hecuba’s daughter

Those who worship Bibi, orthodox and non-orthodox alike (probably includes David Frum), are already firm supporters of Trump. Is Frum claiming there are some who voted for HRC who are now considering Trump?

The majority of Israelis voted against Bibi, but because of Israel’s multi-party system the Likud was able to form a Knesset majority with a coalition of small parties. We may think the Electoral College is fucked up but the Israeli bazillion-party system is even worse.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 24, 2019 • 6:31:39pm

re: #299 austin_blue

The reason it is a “contested waterway” is that international law does not support the PRC’s claim of sovereignty. That’s open ocean, and if the PRC wants to attack a Navy destroyer being there, they can, and will, get fucked right up the ass.

Welcome to the cow lick that the PRC claims as sovereign territory. Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia have differing opinions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 24, 2019 • 6:34:27pm

BREAKING: Puerto Rico’s Governor had apparently agreed to resign today, but broke his word that he gave to legislators, so now the Speaker of the House of Representatives will make good on his word to impeach the Governor.https://t.co/n4lCUZdm4G

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 25, 2019

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A Three Hour Tour Jul 24, 2019 • 6:46:15pm

re: #358 Charles Johnson

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What the Democrats need to learn is that there are certain battles you need to fight in order to uphold the principles of law and justice, even when the prospect of victory is uncertain.

On the Senate side, we need to learn from the Republicans how to be legislative obstructionist and saboteurs.

Forget institutional collegiality. That train left the station a long time ago. Our side needs to learn how to be colossal pains in the asses of the opposition.

No more mincing words. Call lies what they are. Call corruption, abuse of power, and obstruction of justice what they are - high crimes and misdemeanors, and, therefore, impeachable acts.

Set up the impeachment inquiries, go through the process, get all the dirt out there, draw up the damned Articles of Impeachment, send them to the Senate for trial, and when the Republican dominated Senate acquire Trump, use that to demonstrate that the process is broken, and hang that acquittal verdict around the Republicans’ necks, hammering them for their own corruption.

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