The Bob Cesca Podcast: Dad Jokes

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Dad Jokes — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Restoring Chez Pazienza’s old website; Trump’s never heard of a Category 5 storm, except all the other times; A Place For Don; Trump congratulates Poland on Nazi invasion anniversary; Gun ‘splainers and Buzz’s Top Ten List; Texas is number one in mass shooting deaths in August; The Loudest Voice, Roger Ailes and Donald Trump; With music by Freekbass and Dave Molter; and more!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:34:20pm

OH HAI! WE ARE HOME.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:38:14pm

Very very weird creepy experience at The Border.

The border crossing was empty. Usually there is a bunch of vehicles waiting patiently to be processed. NOT TODAY. The Windsor/Detroit border was empty. Every lane was open.

CBP was very polite & confiscated the orange from the basket of fruit that Holiday Inn gave us, and then we were waved through.

There were more bright, shiny new vehicles for CBP & ICE than were waiting to go across from Canada to the U.S. I have never seen anything like it!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:46:27pm
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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:49:34pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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Did Ivanka get an arm transplant from Ann Coulter?

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:49:45pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

The dual cones of shame.

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:50:54pm

re: #5 stpaulbear

The dual cones of shame.

It keeps daddy from kissing her neck.

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Cheechako  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:53:19pm

We’ll be seeing that photo over and over forever.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:53:19pm

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

Glad you made it home safely and it looks like you had a lovely time too. Yay!!! 🤗

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:57:20pm

About the UK… How does Boris Johnson fire elected officials? He removed the whip (and revoked their access access to enter Parliament). What are weekends for?

I do not understand this at all.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:57:30pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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The forest folk giggled. “Yes, it’s all the rage here. The bigger the leaves, the better.”

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:57:50pm

re: #6 b.d.

It keeps daddy from kissing her neck.

AARRGGHHH! Gross!

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:57:59pm

re: #5 stpaulbear

The dual cones of shame.

ps..I wave at ***everyone*** on two wheels

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:58:14pm

Via Balloon Juice

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 5:59:23pm

re: #12 DangerMan

ps..I wave at ***everyone*** on two wheels

Yeah, I timed that comment on the last thread perfectly.
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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:00:36pm

re: #14 stpaulbear

Yeah, I timed that comment on the last thread perfectly.
/

no worries i was making dinner.
Italian white beans and rice with herbs

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:02:23pm

re: #9 MsJ

About the UK… How does Boris Johnson fire elected officials? He removed the whip (and revoked their access access to enter Parliament). What are weekends for?

I do not understand this at all.

By “removing the whip,” he’s ejected them from the Conservative Party. While they’re not fired, they are cut off from any support from the party and if they choose to run for reelection they will either have to join another party or run as independents. It’s a bit more formal version of those Congresscritters here in the States who get cut off financially by their party when they cross the leadership one too many times. Sort of like what Steve King is going through right now.

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DangerMan  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:07:13pm

re: #12 DangerMan

ps..I wave at ***everyone*** on two wheels

I shoulda said ” even hondas”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:08:56pm

This is a crime.

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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:09:55pm

I love RBG more than ever after having listened to the program, which was done as a question and answer session with Nina Totenberg. It was truly delightful.

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Jay C  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:11:07pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

By “removing the whip,” he’s ejected them from the Conservative Party. While they’re not fired, they are cut off from any support from the party and if they choose to run for reelection they will either have to join another party or run as independents. It’s a bit more formal version of those Congresscritters here in the States who get cut off financially by their party when they cross the leadership one too many times. Sort of like what Steve King is going through right now.

I was wondering about this, also: does the PM have the authority to boot Party members on his own say-so, or does it have to be done by some other body (Committee?)

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A Mom Anon  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:12:47pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s so awful that awful does not describe it accurately.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:13:42pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

This is a crime.

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In that second photo she has rubber chicken arms.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:16:07pm

re: #20 Jay C

I was wondering about this, also: does the PM have the authority to boot Party members on his own say-so, or does it have to be done by some other body (Committee?)

The job is that of the Chief Whip, who’s a member of the Cabinet. Basically they’re the equiv of the Majority Whip here in the States, though they have more power to fuck with one’s political career for disloyalty to the leadership, including removing the whip.

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:16:07pm

re: #21 A Mom Anon

It’s so awful that awful does not describe it accurately.

Apparently a Columbian designer named Johanna Ortiz if you want to know who to avoid.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:16:18pm

Little Shop of Horrors - Feed Me

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:18:00pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

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Who could honestly put that dress on and think that it was ok to wear where other human eyes could see it?

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b.d.  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:18:32pm

Putin made her wear that dress, the screws are tightening….

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:19:24pm

re: #17 DangerMan

I shoulda said ” even hondas”

Or Kymcos.

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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:22:17pm

re: #28 stpaulbear

Or Kymcos.

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Kymcos with Ivanka sleeves on the driver… I can see it now…

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:22:18pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

By “removing the whip,” he’s ejected them from the Conservative Party. While they’re not fired, they are cut off from any support from the party and if they choose to run for reelection they will either have to join another party or run as independents. It’s a bit more formal version of those Congresscritters here in the States who get cut off financially by their party when they cross the leadership one too many times. Sort of like what Steve King is going through right now.

That last sentence was supposed to ask What are elections for (which autocorrected to weekends… Sure, why not? 🙄).

This doesn’t sound like they’ve just pulled support. They got sacked (which is fired, right?) And they revoked their access to get into Parliament. That’s not just pulling support, that’s making them functionally unable to vote.

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danarchy  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:26:42pm

re: #30 MsJ

That last sentence was supposed to ask What are elections for (which autocorrected to weekends… Sure, why not? 🙄).

This doesn’t sound like they’ve just pulled support. They got sacked (which is fired, right?) And they revoked their access to get into Parliament. That’s not just pulling support, that’s making them functionally unable to vote.

Not sure where you heard this, but I was watching the BBC most of the day and they were pretty clear those MPs would still be there but would be sitting with other independents or even with the opposition.

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:30:34pm

re: #31 danarchy

Not sure where you heard this, but I was watching the BBC most of the day and they were pretty clear those PMs would still be there but would be sitting with other independents or even with the opposition.

One of the Tories he’d be kicking out of the party is a grandson of Winston Churchill.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:31:05pm
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Danack  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:31:56pm

re: #30 MsJ

They got sacked (which is fired, right?) And they revoked their access to get into Parliament.

No, the closest match to US congressional organization would be to lose their seniority for committee assignments, and party ranking.

They remain in Parliament but would be considered more an independent than a member of that party.

inews.co.uk

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:39:18pm

Fuck you, asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:42:44pm
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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:43:55pm

re: #31 danarchy

Not sure where you heard this, but I was watching the BBC most of the day and they were pretty clear those MPs would still be there but would be sitting with other independents or even with the opposition.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:45:44pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

This is a crime.

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Is that dress made in China, too?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:46:11pm

Between Johnson and Rees-Mogg today they just kind of gave away that their little team give no fucks about all the hoary decorum and conservative shit that nominally drives them. I mean, it was obvious to people who paid attention to words and deeds, but now its the people who cling to symbols and appearances have begun to notice. Approximately three minutes after the dead crab, but finally.

But, by god, they just can’t stint themselves a chance to posture and gloat.

It is their nature, like unto the scorpion on the frog in that one story except it’sjacking off instead of stinging.

Bless you, you glorious self-igniting fuckbakes. May you show yourself mercy next time by catching fire faster.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:48:19pm
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retired cynic  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:49:14pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Because brown people.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:49:39pm

re: #38 MsJ

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That’s not part of removing the whip, that’s the leadership being petty.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:51:16pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:54:54pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

It is very hard to understand the endless chasm of emotional neediness within the heart of seal carcass full of fermenting puffin carcasses daubed with self-tan.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 6:57:29pm

You think Dad jokes are lame? You haven’t heard Canadian Grandkid jokes.

Click to Reveal

Why does bread always rise in Toronto?


Click to Reveal

Because Canada has true dough.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:02:47pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

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USNS Mercy is still in San Diego.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:03:01pm

From the Guardian:

Still scratching your head about what happened today? Or arriving at this blog from a non-UK timezone and need some catching up?

I’ve written a very basic explainer of what happened today, addressing questions like:

What just happened?
Boris Johnson has just lost a very significant vote in parliament, which has allowed MPs to seize control of the parliamentary timetable. It paves the way to introduce a bill that is designed to block a no-deal Brexit by forcing the prime minister to request an extension if he cannot strike a reworked divorce agreement with the rest of the EU.

Johnson threatened his MPs ahead of Tuesday that they should vote with him or face the penalty of having the “whip” withdrawn. Despite this threat, Johnson lost the vote. The rebel MPs and opposition parties won by 328 to 301.

What does it mean to ‘withdraw the whip’?
An arcane and slightly disturbing expression, in political-speak “withdrawing the whip” from someone effectively means booting them out of the party, without them immediately losing their seat.

An MP who has the whip withdrawn sits as an independent, but can be brought back into the party fold if it decides to restore the whip. Having the whip withdrawn is one of the most serious disciplinary actions that can be taken against an MP by a party. In this case it may mean they are barred from standing for the Tories in the next election.

What happens next?
Boris Johnson has announced he will ask parliament to allow a snap general election, which would be held on 15 October. The date of 14 October had been floated, but was deemed inappropriate as it is the Jewish holiday Sukkot.

Johnson has said that even if the rebels’ vote passes on Wednesday he will never request an extension beyond 31 October from the EU, and “the people of this country will have to choose” in an election. However, the prime minister needs a two-thirds majority to secure an early general election under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act. Which means Labour can block it - and Jeremy Corbyn quickly made clear his party would not vote for an election unless and until the anti-no-deal bill has passed.

There is talk that if things reach a stalemate, it could result in a motion of no confidence in Johnson, but the prospects of that remain unclear.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:04:13pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:05:40pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

I’ve done all those, all of them except the last one was at my grandmother’s house in Sioux Falls. I can go months without taking a selfie to this day.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:08:02pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

I’ve done all those, all of them except the last one was at my grandmother’s house in Sioux Falls. I can go months without taking a selfie to this day.

I have never taken a selfie. I don’t even know how.

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:09:59pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

I have never taken a selfie. I don’t even know how.

Well, smartphone have two cameras…

Oh, never mind! The less one uses those portable glowing rectangles the better!

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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:11:30pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

I have never taken a selfie. I don’t even know how.

Every time I accidentally hit the selfie button on my phone’s camera, I’m horrified.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:11:35pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

As a near 50 year old (2.5 months from now), I don’t really care for most “back in my day stories” except for maybe “Back in my day, medicine tasted like crap, and I’m glad you don’t have to go through that.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:11:55pm

I like this one, my penultimate selfie (taken late February 2019), Jackson Hole tram line.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:11:57pm

My personal resolution is that I’ll only take a selfie in the company of my sister, Tom Waits, or an authentic Rapa Nui moai.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:13:57pm

re: #53 stpaulbear

Every time I accidentally hit the selfie button on my phone’s camera, I’m horrified.

My new avatar is as close as I want to get.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:15:50pm

Go fuck yourself, Mr President.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:16:08pm

I resemble that remark:

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:16:55pm
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Belafon  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:18:56pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:19:41pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:20:54pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Well, smartphone have two cameras…

Oh, never mind! The less one uses those portable glowing rectangles the better!

Every time I see a phone video of a concert where all you can really see is dozens of other people making phone videos, I wonder if anyone is actually watching the concert rather than just monitoring it through their cell phone screens. Seems to happen with almost anything worth watching now. Everyone wants the digital version to watch later rather than being in the moment. I rarely take pictures on scenic drives or walks anymore.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:24:56pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

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“i’m so old that” meme:

I wonder what happened to all the phone books, wall maps, calendars, random scraps of paper I doodled on while talking on the AT&T/Bell phone, both button and rotor.

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:29:17pm

re: #60 Belafon

It’s the absolute least they can do.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:34:45pm

Mono Neon and a buddy playing guitars upside down. I saw him playing with a Knower video and thought he was playing upside down, now they’re both doing it.

NAMM 2016: Eric Gales & Mono Neon Live At The Dunlop Booth

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:38:05pm
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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:38:38pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:48:09pm

re: #63 stpaulbear

Every time I see a phone video of a concert where all you can really see is dozens of other people making phone videos, I wonder if anyone is actually watching the concert rather than just monitoring it through their cell phone screens. Seems to happen with almost anything worth watching now. Everyone wants the digital version to watch later rather than being in the moment. I rarely take pictures on scenic drives or walks anymore.

I limit myself to three still photos at concerts. A lot of times I take only one.

This was in Missoula last month, the only picture I took of the show. Umphrey’s McGee.

Instagram

This shit never gets old. #umphreys

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:51:20pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 7:54:44pm
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calochortus  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:15:06pm

So this happened next door today.

house module arriving
More house arriving
Being placed
And, as evening falls…

There is work to do on a central hall connecting two groups of modules, and a roof and siding, etc. All the electrical, plumbing, appliances, etc. are already in place.
It’s got to be twice the size of the old house. Why they need 3500 sq. ft. or so, I don’t know, but apparently the think they do.

The ginormous crane is still out there, totally blocking the street, but with luck they’ll get it out of there sometime tonight.

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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:16:39pm

re: #5 stpaulbear

The dual cones of shame.

Radar cones, combined with sound cones to detect threats against Murica.

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BigPapa  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:17:22pm

re: #72 calochortus

Oh, hai, can you sign? I have a house for you. I have a couple of boxes back at the truck.

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:18:26pm

re: #72 calochortus

Seems like something would wind up out of line during the assembly.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:25:26pm

re: #75 jaunte

Seems like something would wind up out of line during the assembly.

They must have some room to play with on the foundation-one section had a bunch of marks painted on following a loooong discussion of measurements, but it all seems to have worked out.
The modules were built near Bellingham, WA and trucked down to the San Francisco Peninsula.

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:26:50pm

re: #74 BigPapa

Oh, hai, can you sign? I have a house for you. I have a couple of boxes back at the truck.

5 big modules and one little one.
The homeowners and a couple other neighbors dropped by our house for the show since we have such a great view, so it was a social occasion.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:28:30pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:29:10pm

Is this right? I don’t think this is right. Hilarious and adorable, but not right.

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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:33:08pm

re: #60 Belafon

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Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away…

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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:38:23pm

re: #72 calochortus

So this happened next door today.

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There is work to do on a central hall connecting two groups of modules, and a roof and siding, etc. All the electrical, plumbing, appliances, etc. are already in place.
It’s got to be twice the size of the old house. Why they need 3500 sq. ft. or so, I don’t know, but apparently the think they do.

The ginormous crane is still out there, totally blocking the street, but with luck they’ll get it out of there sometime tonight.

South Bay? East side?

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:38:46pm

re: #73 austin_blue

Radar cones, combined with sound cones to detect threats against Murica.

How well can it work when one of those threats is wearing it?

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:39:33pm

re: #81 austin_blue

South Bay? East side?

Just outside Portola Valley (near Palo Alto for those of you who aren’t local)

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Interesting Times  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:42:14pm

Ha:

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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:48:34pm

re: #83 calochortus

Just outside Portola Valley (near Palo Alto for those of you who aren’t local)

Ah, the edge of hideousely expensive land and yet right on the fault. Hope the neighbors hired a geologist/engineer who was experienced in designing the foundation and shake capacity of the house.

Being on hard rock helps, doesn’t it?

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calochortus  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:54:02pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Ah, the edge of hideousely expensive land and yet right on the fault. Hope the neighbors hired a geologist/engineer who was experienced in designing the foundation and shake capacity of the house.

Being on hard rock helps, doesn’t it?

They have a foundation that will stand up to anything. It is probably wildly overengineered-and it goes to the underlying sandstone. The house will not be going anywhere. At least as long as they remember to bolt the modules to that foundation,.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:56:51pm

Of course Ivanka’s outfit has sleeves that can make her appear far larger.

It’s a tactic to make her seem larger to predators so they leave her alone.

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MsJ  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:58:42pm
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austin_blue  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:59:20pm

Well, all, I am off for the rack. BoJo has shot himself in the head, the Tories have lost control of the Government, and the Parliament is in full chaos mode.

Meanwhile, in the good ol’ USofA, we appear to have reached full-on rigor mortis gridlock over both gun control and anything else on anyone’s Legislative agenda because the Senate Majority Leader has shut down the Government.

Good times!

Fuck my life.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 3, 2019 • 8:59:43pm

re: #18 I Would Prefer Not To

Looks like a crying lizard.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:05:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:10:46pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:21:59pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Literally the only meaningful criterion of competent gun ownership is friendship with Dan Crenshaw.

I’m a 33rd-level Eddie the Eagle gun-safety course graduate, I’d know.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:22:50pm

David Simon like my “Yo momma” comment

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:24:50pm

This is my soul sister right here.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:24:59pm
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Amory Blaine  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:26:49pm

50,000 unvaccinated children head to Wisconsin schools as the U.S. copes with worst measles outbreak in 27 years

When Wisconsin children return to school this week, close to 50,000 of them will have waivers that exempt them from vaccines, leaving them vulnerable to measles at a time when the nation has experienced its largest outbreak in 27 years.

Health officials across the U.S. have reported 1,215 cases of measles this year as of Aug. 22, the highest number since 1992, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Measles had been declared eliminated in 2000.

“I really do think it’s purely just dumb luck that this hasn’t spread to Wisconsin,” said James Conway, a professor of pediatrics at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health.

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:30:06pm

They still go on about his sarcastic comment “You’re not going to overthrow the government with your guns, the government has tanks and huclear bombs” in response to gun nuts going on about “defend against gubmint tyranny”. They claim he threatened nuclear war against gun owners. Not sure if they are idiots or liars.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:35:31pm

re: #84 Interesting Times

Ha:

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uriel  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:44:37pm

Just wanted to drop this off here, in case it got lost in the churnings and turnings of internet commentary-isms:

re: #224 CleverToad

Very aware of the the limitations of written-only communication, as witness I’m sitting here now wondering if the reference to “tone policing” indicates that you feel I was doing that in my post. If so, I apologize!

re: #308 uriel

No, I was being self-deprecating with that. Sorry!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:45:30pm

re: #98 gocart mozart

They still go on about his sarcastic comment “You’re not going to overthrow the government with your guns, the government has tanks and huclear bombs” in response to gun nuts going on about “defend against gubmint tyranny”. They claim he threatened nuclear war against gun owners. Not sure if they are idiots or liars.

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I love the bomb, but it’s a strange love.

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2019 • 9:49:20pm

Go - Tones on Tail

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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:01:16pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:02:15pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:05:41pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:12:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:12:17pm

“Our meat is already dead. You don’t need to bring your gun.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 3, 2019 • 10:32:12pm

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Dread Pirate  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:01:31pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:02:45pm
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sagehen  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:44:40pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2019 • 11:46:18pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:05:05am

Good morning, Lizards. In the ongoing Brexit saga,

They’re leaving BoJo to twist in the wind (for now) as basically a lame duck PM. I’m glad to see this, as the opposition is being smart; they’ll call an election on their terms, not the Tories.

As the Brits would say, it’s looking like the opposition has “played a blinder” - they’ve painted the Tories into a corner. And while all this happy horseshit isn’t over yet, things are starting to look a bit more promising.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:14:06am

Hi.

We got back from Scottsbluff late.

I took US-26 through Bayard and Moomaw Corners rather than my usual route on NE-92 to look at the crop damage from the hailstorm.

Wholly crap, the hail leveled almost everything from here to Scottsbluff. Corn, sugar beets, beans, you name it. A whole bunch of farm buildings were severely damaged as well.

The cheque arrived for our car damage from the insurance company; they paid us $1,750.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:18:48am

re: #64 Barefoot Grin

“i’m so old that” meme:

I wonder what happened to all the phone books, wall maps, calendars, random scraps of paper I doodled on while talking on the AT&T/Bell phone, both button and rotor.

Phone book: to my left two feet with my other reference books.
Wall map: White Trucking Company map of Nebraska in my kitchen, showing at the time Interstate 80 not yet completed beyond Lincoln and part of the US highways in this part of the state still unpaved.
Calendars: Two, one behind me over my wife’s computer, one in the kitchen below the wall map.
Dial wall phone above me or the dial French desk phone to my left I don’t know the brands. My answering machine is a GE.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:27:28am

They would look like Walking Dead extras, if zombies were fat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:35:00am

re: #31 danarchy

Not sure where you heard this, but I was watching the BBC most of the day and they were pretty clear those MPs would still be there but would be sitting with other independents or even with the opposition.

And that they could not run (or stand, to use the UK parlance) for office again as Tories.

Which is less and less a threat as time passes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:37:31am

(caution for discussion of religion by non-religious people, 11:06)

“Truth Wanted” is a production of the Atheist Community of Austin.

In this clip, two British atheist YouTubers are asked by a woman from California about what role nationalism and religion played in the Brexit vote.

Rationality Rules voted for Brexit, Rachel Oates voted Remain. Both RR and Ms. Oates discuss the incredible racism involved in the vote. Ms. Oates is from Yorkshire, and notes that her accent has changed a bit since she moved to London, and Yorkshire residents will discriminate her now for being an outsider.

Nationalism & Religion in the United Kingdom | Karen - California | Truth Wanted 02.13

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:38:19am

re: #54 Belafon

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As a near 50 year old (2.5 months from now), I don’t really care for most “back in my day stories” except for maybe “Back in my day, medicine tasted like crap, and I’m glad you don’t have to go through that.”

There is only one thing that is more cliché than the sight of a group of young people glued to their screens ignoring the world around them, and that is the sight of middle-aged persons complaining about said group.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:42:15am

re: #78 Ace-o-aces

One of the few bright spots in this shit show of an administration has been the utter humiliation of John Bolton.

He humiliated himself by taking the job in the first place and expecting to be anything other than a tool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:44:43am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

You SHOULDN’T be able to transfer guns to your friends without having them go through a background check. People’s biggest blindspots and tendency towards poor judgement always involve those closest to them.

WELL REGULATED MILITIA

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:49:55am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

Dan Crenshaw is an idiot.

I own exactly one shotgun. I wouldn’t loan it to anyone no matter how well I know them, even a family member.

The rule “control your firearm at all times” is tough to do if you gave it to someone else.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:50:40am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is only one thing that is more cliché than the sight of a group of young people glued to their screens ignoring the world around them, and that is the sight of middle-aged persons complaining about said group.

“Get off my lawn, unless you’re pushing a lawnmower.” /s

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:55:39am

Interesting, if it holds, and if the HK protestors don’t fuck this up and make the CCP seem like the reasonable side here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 12:56:46am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:07:10am

I heard this on the radio today headed to town.

Cherokee Nation Names First Delegate To Congress (Goes to NPR)

The treaty which resulted in the “Trail of Tears” also has a clause that allows the Cherokee Nation to appoint a non-voting delegate to the US House of Representatives.

Until now they have never done so. Former Obama appointee Kimberly Teehee was appointed by the Cherokee Nation to the delegate position.

The treaty language is very clear that if the Cherokee Nation appoints a delegate, that delegate “shall be seated” in the US House.

As a delegate in Congress who can attend committee meetings, Teehee would have the opportunity to advocate not just for the Cherokee Nation, but for all tribes, said Lindsay Robertson, who teaches federal Indian law at the University of Oklahoma College of Law.

Congress has to figure out how to seat her, but with the Democrats in the majority she will be seated. Let’s see how many Republicans try to oppose it while insisting they aren’t racists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:11:39am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Congress has to figure out how to seat her, but with the Democrats in the majority she will be seated. Let’s see how many Republicans try to oppose it while insisting they aren’t racists.

…or making Pocahontas jokes

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:13:26am

American Enterprise Institute economist weighs in with the “it didn’t happen to me so it can’t be true take” followed by a lot of dragging.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:14:38am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🎃

To be clear, I have no doubt that many hard-working college students do not have ample financial resources. But concern over $200 is surely exaggerated.

*ahem*

there are plenty of families out there who would struggle with an unexpected $200 bill

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:20:10am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

*ahem*

there are plenty of families out there who would struggle with an unexpected $200 bill

I recall reading somewhere the very low percentage of savings these days, primarily because wages have remained mostly flat.

I know within my own family the only people who can take a $200 hit without having real problems is my wife and me. The only reason for that is the extremely low-cost area in which we live.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:21:21am

LOL

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:29:03am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 1:33:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:00:36am

When Elizabeth Warren Agreed With Betsy DeVos (Goes to the New York Times, incoming steaming pile of crap from David Brooks):

She has also done one more thing. She has made sure that her policy views conform to progressive orthodoxy. This is an important transformation for Warren. When she emerged on the public stage she was a completely heterodox thinker, who deviated from the liberal mainstream with abandon.

“Progressive orthodoxy?” What is this, a religion? Religious people and conservatives think in terms of “orthodoxy,” not progressives.

He goes on about her book “The Two-Income Trap” and completely misrepresents what she and her daughter argued in the book, to make it appear that Warren supported the things that DeVos does now about stay-at-home wives.

They actually argued for tuition freezes at public universities, re-imposition of usury laws, and attacked Joe Biden in the 2004 book for being too soft on banks and writing bank-friendly legislation.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:05:47am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Better if they ignore her a bit longer and continue wanking to Biden’s gaffes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:10:43am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When Elizabeth Warren Agreed With Betsy DeVos (Goes to the New York Times, incoming steaming pile of crap from David Brooks):

They actually argued for tuition freezes at public universities, re-imposition of usury laws, and attacked Joe Biden in the 2004 book for being too soft on banks and writing bank-friendly legislation.

Remember that in our New Media Reality, having a long record of public service is a handicap, as it allows critics on both sides to pick out individual aspects to attack, whereas being an “outsider” with no record of public service (and unreleased tax records) is seen as a selling point.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:11:54am

There are colleges that run private food pantries for students.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:18:02am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that in our New Media Reality, having a long record of public service is a handicap, as it allows critics on both sides to pick out individual aspects to attack, whereas being an “outsider” with no record of public service (and unreleased tax records) is seen as a selling point.

Yup, we’re left with comedians (such as the Samantha Bee clip above and Trevor Noah and John Oliver) having to tell us what the news is.

To be fair, comedians have always weighed in on political topics (such as “Laugh-In”) but now that seems to be the only source for news.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:20:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:20:25am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

There are colleges that run private food pantries for students.

In 1983 I was a grad student living off my salary as a Teaching Assistant of 300 euros a month. Of which $150 went for rent, another $50 for phone and utilities, leaving me exactly $25 per week to live off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:21:05am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yup, we’re left with comedians (such as the Samantha Bee clip above and Trevor Noah and John Oliver) having to tell us what the news is.

I watch them but I can no longer laugh…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:24:34am

Looking pretty ragged, but will still be a hurricane when it brushes up against the Carolinas:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:27:51am

Hurricane Dorian is now 90 miles east of Daytona Beach. Winds are down to 105 mph.

By Sunday it is expected to be a post-tropical hurricane over Nova Scotia, and by Monday it will be a post-tropical storm after crossing Newfoundland and emerging into the Atlantic Ocean on the north side of the island.

In the meantime, Hurricane Warnings have been extended to Duck, North Carolina, and watches to the NC-VA border. A Tropical Storm Watch is in place for Hampton Roads and the lower Chesapeake Bay. The storm is expected to come very near or over coastal South and North Carolina Thursday and Friday, so keep your heads down if you live there. If the storm comes ashore there, the forward motion will be so fast on the southeast side it could add a whole category to the winds.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:28:35am

Summer finally arrived here… for those unaware, Sep and Oct are the hot months in San Diego county. Unfortunately we’ve had no monsoonal rain this year. What is left of the local loquat trees (that people haven’t cut down) will be quite stressed between now and blooming (usually in Nov.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:31:33am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

Who the heck is “Minion Death Cult Podcast” and is that serious?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:35:05am

Inland tropical storm warnings are posted for a good portion of South Carolina.

weather.gov (Columbia, SC NWS office)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:39:48am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:42:17am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Who the heck is “Minion Death Cult Podcast” and is that serious?

Well, it has Kevin Sorbo and Brian Bosworth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:52:15am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Who the heck is “Minion Death Cult Podcast” and is that serious?

Antifa = Antichrist

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:52:48am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Best film” at two made up film festivals

Winner of Beijing’s coveted Crying Monkey award?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 2:55:54am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hurricane Dorian is now 90 miles east of Daytona Beach. Winds are down to 105 mph.

By Sunday it is expected to be a post-tropical hurricane over Nova Scotia, and by Monday it will be a post-tropical storm after crossing Newfoundland and emerging into the Atlantic Ocean on the north side of the island.

And still enough to wash out next weekend in Europe…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 3:12:21am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

They’ve been trying to release this film for two years.

Christian Film Starring Kevin Sorbo Giving Away AR-15 Rifle as Christmas Promotion After Church Shooting (Christian Post, November 26, 2017)

It also looks like one giant grift. Extremely limited release (one night October 24 in a few theatres, the same thing they were claiming in 2018 when it wasn’t released).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 3:31:10am

Criminal complaint against Rebel News Network, company directors Ezra Levant, Hamish Marshall, Hannah Vanderkooy, and presenter Faith Bazos (aka Faith Goldy) of Canada’s Rebel Media.

Formal Criminal Complaint Made Against Rebel Media for Hate Propaganda (goes to Hope Not Hate UK)

Tommy Robinson content used as evidence to show how Rebel Media disseminated xenophobic anti-Muslim content.

A formal criminal complaint for hate propaganda has been filed with the Ottawa Police Service against the Canadian Islamophobic news outlet Rebel News Network Ltd., and its directors Ezra Levant, Hamish Marshall and Hannah Vanderkooy, as well as former Rebel News presenter Faith Bazos (aka Faith Goldy).

The complaint, produced by the Ottawa based human rights lawyer Richard Warman was submitted on 26 August and aided by research support from HOPE not hate.

(more at the link, including the criminal complaint filing)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 3:38:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 3:42:29am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Tucker Carlson went from gun buybacks to civil war in about two seconds

Antifa vs Christian Patriots?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 3:50:13am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Antifa vs Christian Patriots?

I have no idea how a gun buyback (particularly a voluntary one) would turn to civil war.

That said, FOX News Channel skirts the line of agitprop and stochastic terrorism frequently.

I can see people around here being spun up by stuff by this.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:10:31am
Commander, U.S. 2nd Fleet ordered all U.S. Navy ships and aircraft in the Hampton Roads area to be prepared to transit to safety within 24 hours, if necessary, as a precautionary measure due to the approach of Hurricane Dorian, thereby setting Sortie Condition Bravo.

Vice Adm. Andrew L. Lewis set the sortie condition as a precautionary measure to reduce the risk of significant damage to ships, aircraft and piers during potential high winds and/or seas.

“We will continue to monitor and track the storm to ensure our ships and personnel are prepared,” said Lewis. “If necessary, we will sortie our ships to allow enough time to transit safely out of the path of the storm.”

Some ships will not get underway due to various maintenance availabilities and are taking extra precautions to avoid potential damage. Commanding officers have a number of options when staying in port, depending on the severity of the weather. Some of these options include: adding additional mooring and storm lines, dropping the anchor and disconnecting shore power cables.

Additionally, Rear Adm. Charles W. Rock, Commander, Navy Region Mid-Atlantic (CNRMA), ordered all installations in the Hampton Roads area to prepare for possible sustained destructive winds of greater than 50 knots within 48 hours, thereby setting Tropical Cyclone Conditions of Readiness (TCCOR) Three (III).

(more)

militarynews.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:14:44am

Tucker’s a fucking idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:17:54am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Tucker’s a fucking idiot.

I think Tucker knows what he’s doing, and he’s paid very well for his White Power Hour.

Canada’s going after Rebel Media; there must be some way to go after FOX.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:19:21am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Tucker’s a fucking idiot.

I doubt that he believes half of this shit, he is just adept at selling his message to his marks.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:20:28am

Tropical Storm Gabrielle has formed off the Cabo Verde Islands.
nhc.noaa.gov

It will likely be only a threat to shipping for the next several days, though if it gets far enough north and is whipped eastward by the Westerlies, it could conceivably be flung back into Portugal or Spain.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:24:36am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I doubt that he believes half of this shit, he is just adept at selling his message to his marks.

Okay, his viewers are even bigger fucking morons. He’s a moron for pushing this shit as intelligent thought.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:25:21am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I think Tucker knows what he’s doing, and he’s paid very well for his White Power Hour.

Canada’s going after Rebel Media; there must be some way to go after FOX.

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Nah, I think he’s an idiot. You say this crap enough and eventually you believe it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:27:17am

The tropical wave now in Guinea and Guinea-Bissau is about to move off the coast of Africa, and the National Hurricane Center gives it a 70% chance of development into a tropical depression within five days. It would be moving (at least initially) along the route of Cape Verde storms which hit the Caribbean or USA.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:31:00am

Tropical Storm Ferdnand is twelve hours from making landfall in far northeastern Mexico. The government there has posted tropical storm warnings from Puerto Altamira up to the US border. Winds are 50 mph and are coming onshore now in Mexico.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:35:51am

(15:41, caution for atheists talking about religion)

Holy Koolaid (Thomas Westbrook) interviews Dr. Jennifer Gunter on “Vagina Woo.”

Debunking Vagina Woo - with Dr. Jennifer Gunter

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Dave In Austin  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:40:55am

Jim Mattis was interviewed on MJ this morning.
That was an inspiration of leadership that I wasn’t expecting.
Take the time to look at it if you get the chance.

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jeffreyw  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:43:31am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:45:41am

re: #168 Dave In Austin

Jim Mattis was interviewed on MJ this morning.
That was an inspiration of leadership that I wasn’t expecting.
Take the time to look at it if you get the chance.

He also weaseled out yesterday when Christine Amanpour interviewed him.

cnn.com

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis defended his reluctance to openly criticize the Trump administration Tuesday but also did not rule out speaking candidly before the 2020 election, telling CNN’s Christiane Amanpour that “there will come a time when it is right” for him to do so.

In his first CNN interview since resigning eight months ago, Mattis suggested that he continues to weigh a responsibility to speak out with a duty of silence he believes he owes current officials as they navigate a myriad of geopolitical challenges, raging from Iran to Syria to North Korea.

For the moment, Mattis said that he does not think he adds anything by “representing contrary views” but made it very clear that “there will come a time when it’s right for me to talk about strategy and policy” and that he will know that moment when he sees it.

(more)

He’s playing both sides.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:48:43am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(more)

Pressed on whether that time might come before the 2020 election, Mattis was non-committal.

“You’re a military man. Duty and honor are very important in your life and in your career. Do you believe it’s your duty to speak about what you know from the inside before the next election?” Amanpour asked.

“Duty and honor absolutely are important. And you don’t surrender your oath to support and defend the constitution when you leave active duty. But that said, I don’t think now, for a person steeped in the military tradition, in the Defense Department, that I should be speaking up on things that are political assessments,” Mattis responded.

Mattis echoed that sentiment later Tuesday while speaking before the Council of Foreign Relations.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 4:57:32am

Mattis is also a grifter, having been a member of the board of Theranos. He was on the board at the same time he was in the Marine Corps, with permission from the Department of Defense.

When the DOD discovered that Theranos was going to distribute its fake blood testing equipment without FDA approval, Elizabeth Holmes asked Mattis to use his connexions with the DOD to smooth over sales of the equipment to the military.

This is not a good guy to look up to.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 4, 2019 • 5:03:49am

The sun is coming up. It’s time for bed. Catch y’all later. Stay safe if you’re on the East Coast.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 4, 2019 • 5:19:40am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Is it him that’s part of one of the child prison companies at our southern border? If so, he needs to fuck off. And if he does have information that can save the country from worsening destruction, he needs to speak up yesterday. If not, he needs to take his blood money and also fuck off.

I’m kinda not patient these days. And if I end up being wrong about what I wrote, I will take myself to the corner and think about what I’ve done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 5:21:54am

re: #174 A Mom Anon

Is it him that’s part of one of the child prison companies at our southern border? If so, he needs to fuck off. And if he does have information that can save the country from worsening destruction, he needs to speak up yesterday. If not, he needs to take his blood money and also fuck off.

I’m kinda not patient these days. And if I end up being wrong about what I wrote, I will take myself to the corner and think about what I’ve done.

right wing grift is seen as admirable entrepreneurialism

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 5:59:10am

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:02:52am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Dorian continues stalking the coast of Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina like Trump stalked women at a beauty pageant He’d hit that because he could, and then claimed no one else could do what he did.

So what insanity will Trump bring today? The usual assortment of lies, misinformation, and scandal. We can’t be numb to this - because that’s what the daily deluge is intended to do. He overwhelms the senses with scandal, where had each of these occurred under any prior administration, we’d have already proceeded to impeachment and removal for being unfit for office. Just the actions of the past 72 hours is enough for impeachable offenses.

No one else runs a WH like a kakistocracy and kleptocracy where every decision and utterance is about self enrichment and profiting from the position while deflecting and dodging responsibility when things go south.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:04:59am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Thanks for the cut and paste. I for one still have faith that the right thing will eventually prevail.
Glad to know that you for one, are without sin in your past or present.
That makes for an interesting life.

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Targetpractice  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:21:57am

…

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:27:08am

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Jay C  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:33:09am

Well, well: to what should be absolutely no one’s surprise (as the classicists say, cui bono?) - Bloomberg highlights one of the lesser-publicized aspects of the Brexit fiasco. Their headline says it all:

U.K.’s Super-Rich Prepare to Flee From Corbyn Rule, Not Brexit

Kind of the usual hack piece - complete with quote from Margaret Thatcher - but at least it foresees Brexit as providing a chance for the revival of a certain special character long-famous in British lore: the “tax exile”…

ADD: DJIA actually opened up about 200 points this morning - supposedly on the “good news” from Hong Kong (and London [??])

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:34:46am

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

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We got us another RAZZIE contender here!

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:40:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:41:05am

re: #176 lawhawk

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:43:42am

Ivanka is a trump. Always has to be the center of attention. What a fucked up family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:44:55am

re: #185 I Would Prefer Not To

Ivanka is a trump. Always has to be the center of attention. What a fucked up family.

grooming herself for the next generation of the dynasty

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:44:56am
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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:46:51am

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:47:35am

re: #187 Belafon

And when confronted with the direct question about how/why Pence is staying in Trump’s golf business 100s of miles from where he was meeting with Irish govt officials, he could barely stammer out a response. He completely short-circuited and couldn’t even baffle with BS. He was hoping that his silence would not piss off his fellow kleptocrat Trump.

Everything Trump touches dies. That includes the Constitution - mostly because no one in Congress is willing or able to hold him accountable.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:48:19am

And for the record, Pence’s actions on this are also impeachable. He’s sought to enrich Trump by going along with the plan to stay at that resort - an emolument/self dealing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:48:57am

re: #189 lawhawk

Everything Trump touches dies. That includes the Constitution - mostly because no one majority in Congress is willing or able to hold him accountable.

FTFY. There are people, just not enough.

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:55:47am

re: #82 Romantic Heretic

How well can it work when one of those threats is wearing it?

It’s coming from inside…

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Targetpractice  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:57:11am

And now we’re beginning to see the sort of squabble develop in the opposition ranks that are why Brexit has continued to limp along for ages. There’s a disagreement starting to set in on just when Labour will back snap elections, with their line last night being that they wouldn’t allow it before the “Benn bill” was law, but now others in the opposition are wanting Corbyn to commit to preventing a vote earlier than Oct 19th, which is the deadline for Boris seeking an extension from the EU.

This is the sort of crack that Tories have been successful as squeezing wedges into, in this case it would be continuing to needle Corbyn until he commits to elections prior to Oct 19th, giving Boris the opportunity (if he wins) to junk the “Benn bill” and push forward with no-deal Brexit.

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 6:59:20am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:06:05am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Dan Crenshaw is an idiot.

I own exactly one shotgun. I wouldn’t loan it to anyone no matter how well I know them, even a family member.

The rule “control your firearm at all times” is tough to do if you gave it to someone else.

+100

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:08:56am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Hey dickhead, it’s the *last* $200. After the loans, credit cards, financial aid, etc.

And yes a dickhead can also be an asshat

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:14:00am

THIS IDIOT:

Deleted Tweet: Marianne Williamson claims “Thoughts & Prayers” can change the path of hurricanes. I guess even she thought it was too idiotic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:14:28am

getting his morning financial briefing from the teevee:

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:16:20am

re: #189 lawhawk

And when confronted with the direct question about how/why Pence is staying in Trump’s golf business 100s of miles from where he was meeting with Irish govt officials, he could barely stammer out a response. He completely short-circuited and couldn’t even baffle with BS. He was hoping that his silence would not piss off his fellow kleptocrat Trump.

Everything Trump touches dies. That includes the Constitution - mostly because no one in Congress is willing or able to hold him accountable.

That’s why pence will never be president. He can’t do the necessary straight faced lies

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:17:40am

This is what Marianne deleted:

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:20:18am

re: #187 Belafon

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From electoral-vote.com this am, bastardized:

…seems like Trump is getting sloppier and sloppier about lying, about conflicts of interest, and about bad optics…. and at least a dozen other impolitic moves in the last month or two that we likely would not have seen two years ago (even though the administration has always operated under relatively low standards for such things). Maybe Trump has gotten complacent, since he’s gotten away with so much for so long. Or maybe he’s tired, or is otherwise in decline, and is investing even less effort in playing politics. Or maybe life in the bubble has left him further disconnected from reality than he already was

.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:22:23am

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:23:26am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:24:22am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

This is what Marianne deleted:

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I dealt with this deluded kook since the 80s when she told HIV sufferers to stop taking AZT and other antivirals and instead use crystals and oils to…accelerate their internal healing power and will the virus to self destruct.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:24:44am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!
>Creative use of the power of the mind.
Having such bad ideas is hardly creative.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:45:39am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:45:57am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They’ve been trying to release this film for two years.

Christian Film Starring Kevin Sorbo Giving Away AR-15 Rifle as Christmas Promotion After Church Shooting (Christian Post, November 26, 2017)

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It also looks like one giant grift. Extremely limited release (one night October 24 in a few theatres, the same thing they were claiming in 2018 when it wasn’t released).

Reminds me of the Great July 4th Uprising last year.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:48:35am

re: #203 lawhawk

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I want Asshole Alex to get the full dose of Karmic retribution he deserves to get!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:49:01am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

getting his morning financial briefing from the teevee:

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I think he used the wrong twitter tag

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:56:43am

The gonzo tweet she deleted:

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 7:59:39am

Williamson didn’t make the next debate. The only outlier in the current list is Yang.

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:04:32am

re: #211 Belafon

Williamson didn’t make the next debate. The only outlier in the current list is Yang.

He at least has some ideas and is interesting since he’s pushing the minimum income concept hard. If that can make some serious traction in the minds of Democrats, his campaign will be worthwhile unlike Williams or Tulsi (R - Lost in Space).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:09:36am

re: #212 William Lewis

He at least has some ideas and is interesting since he’s pushing the minimum income concept hard. If that can make some serious traction in the minds of Democrats, his campaign will be worthwhile unlike Williams or Tulsi (R - Lost in Space).

Ha ha ha. Well played.

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Jay C  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:17:11am

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I think he used the wrong twitter tag

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Oh boy!
“Tariff Terrorism”!!
A new cliché which we are, unfortunately, likely to see more of. In place of any consistent or coherent economic strategy, of course….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:18:51am

re: #214 Jay C

Oh boy!
“Tariff Terrorism”!!
A new cliché which we are, unfortunately, likely to see more of. In place of any consistent or coherent economic strategy, of course….

They make it seem that these were somehow imposed on us against our will and interests. We trade on a Free Market.

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danarchy  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:20:54am

re: #211 Belafon

Williamson didn’t make the next debate. The only outlier in the current list is Yang.

Why is Yang an outlier and Booker, Castro, O’rourke, and Klobuchar aren’t. They are all polling about the same.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:22:25am

The woman pictured is communications director for the “Black Conservative Movement”. I’m pretty sure whoever posted this thought they were posting from a “#Blexit” account. So yeah, “#Blexit” is totally legit and not at all an astroturf organization.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:23:45am

GOP retirements from Congress are accelerating and coming from unexpected corners.

It doesn’t mean the GOP will lose every one of the seats here, but it’s a warning that the GOP is likely to see a massive drubbing.

Let’s make sure that happens.

Our lives depend on rolling back the GOP reactionary regressive agenda. Stopping Mitch in the Senate has to be a top priority along with retaking the WH.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:31:08am

654 came down with measles as part of this outbreak in NYC.
8% of those who got the measles in NYC needed hospitalization (52).
Of those who required hospitalization, 16 needed admission to the ICU - 30.7%.
Overall, 2.4% of those who got the measles were admitted to the ICU due to complications/severity of the case.

That’s the cost of not getting vaccinated.

Thankfully, the communities hardest hit responded to the crisis by pushing the vaccination rates from 88% before the outbreak to now nearly 99 percent in Borough Park and from 67 percent to 95% in Williamsburg.

Herd immunity requires at least 90-95% vaccination rates. So, keeping the rates where they are or improving on them further is the ongoing goal moving forward.

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Jay C  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:33:12am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They make it seem that these were somehow imposed on us against our will and interests. We trade on a Free Market.

Yeah, well this is RW Economics - and the dumbed-down-for-Fox-Nation-economic-semiliterates version, at that. “Our will and our interests” are the only thing that matters in international relationships, and anything that doesn’t positively favor the US in every aspect is a Bad Thing, and completely the fault of Bad People [insert litany of The Usual RW Punching Bags]…

Yay! Another Meaningless Milestone! 20,000 karma! And in only 7-1/2 years!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:38:26am

re: #217 Ace-o-aces

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retired cynic  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:45:35am

A friend from Savannah sent me a totally true you-tube video. Kind of fun. What Southern Ladies say when it Hurricanes…

Sh%t Southern Women Say In A Hurricane

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:47:23am

re: #216 danarchy

Why is Yang an outlier and Booker, Castro, O’rourke, and Klobuchar aren’t. They are all polling about the same.

Because, at a minimum, all of the others have some type of political experience.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:49:18am
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VegasGolfer  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:51:09am

re: #223 Belafon

lol, that’s a requirement again?

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:55:06am

re: #225 VegasGolfer

lol, that’s a requirement again?

It might be shocking to discover, but Democrats do have some minimum standards. We are definitely quirky that way. The flip side is that we don’t have gender or ethnicity on our list of rejections.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 8:57:09am

re: #217 Ace-o-aces

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The woman pictured is communications director for the “Black Conservative Movement”. I’m pretty sure whoever posted this thought they were posting from a “#Blexit” account. So yeah, “#Blexit” is totally legit and not at all an astroturf organization.

“I’ll pay you $500 to wear this Trump hat and hold this Trump sign and let me take your picture.”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:01:03am

re: #218 lawhawk

It tells me the GOP is certainly afraid of a massive drubbing, which is why we’re seeing these folks get out while the gettin’ is good.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:06:02am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

They see themselves as staying in the minority in the House for the foreseeable future, so they don’t get to set the agenda. They seek greener pastures, like the grifter circuit, lobbying, etc.

Democrats should pick up additional seats as a result.

But it’s still down to the Senate and WH. Democrats need to take back the Senate to completely bring the GOP regressive agenda to a standstill. Taking the WH and the Senate would mean beginning the process of undoing the damage the GOP has done for the past 4 years (6 by time 2021 comes around).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:10:34am

re: #229 lawhawk

They see themselves as staying in the minority in the House for the foreseeable future, so they don’t get to set the agenda. They seek greener pastures, like the grifter circuit, lobbying, etc.

But how many people can the grifter circuit realistically support?

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VegasGolfer  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:12:22am

re: #226 Belafon

I found it odd that you only named yang as a fringe candidate and omitted the others polling the same or lower than him (innocent I’m sure on your part), when yang actually has common sense ideas that address what’s actually happening right now, where as the other leading candidates are all running on the same old cookie cutter ideas and slogans.
He likely won’t get the nomination, but flippantly dismissing him is wrong. Let the media do that.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:13:52am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s always room for more (old and busted replaced by new hotness - like how you’ve got the Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin versions replaced by Tomi Lahren and other vapid know nothing extremists).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:17:32am

As a resident of Texas, I am declaring Matt Schaefer our official State Idiot. This has the same force of law as Trump’s declaration that Antifa is a terrorist organization.

re: #224 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:18:25am

Music break. This is great.

Hiromi - Spectrum (Live)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:20:20am

I knew that.

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retired cynic  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:20:42am

I wonder how Wheat-dogg is doing? Losing Curious Lurker was a terrible blow, as was the loss of ObserverArt. We need our good guys!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:21:02am

re: #220 Jay C

Yay! Another Meaningless Milestone! 20,000 karma! And in only 7-1/2 years!

Me, too: 123,455!!!

Near to my intermediate goal of 125K whereupon I will start working on my lifetime goal of 250K before I shed my lizard skin for good

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:23:01am

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I knew that.

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The interesting thing is that I can see that it’s not quite 90 even if I would have needed a protractor to measure the angle.

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:23:15am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Undocumented noncitizens are explicitly forbidden from possessing firearms. That’s why questions 12a, 12b, 12c, 12d1 & 12d2 are on AFT-4473. We need to require a background check on every transfer. Period. Sales new or used, private or gun show, gifts, inheritance - EVERY transfer. The only thing I would not consider a transfer is allowing someone to use your firearm in your presence while at a range.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:24:13am

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I knew that.

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None of the angles in my old farmhouse (ca 1900) house are 90°…I assume the house was jut built to fit between the two houses on either side,

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stpaulbear  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:25:32am

re: #185 I Would Prefer Not To

Ivanka is a trump. Always has to be the center of attention. What a fucked up family.

Like it or not, that dress has been 100% successful in preventing squirrels from attacking Ivanka’s face.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:25:46am

Can we sign the republican party up for this class?

Boot to the Head (Tae Kwon Leap)

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:25:46am

re: #231 VegasGolfer

I found it odd that you only named yang as a fringe candidate and omitted the others polling the same or lower than him (innocent I’m sure on your part), when yang actually has common sense ideas that address what’s actually happening right now, where as the other leading candidates are all running on the same old cookie cutter ideas and slogans.
He likely won’t get the nomination, but flippantly dismissing him is wrong. Let the media do that.

Yep, well, I consider having some political experience to be a requirement, in addition to not being an Assad apologist or an “if we solve our economic problems, we’ll solve our racism problem” type. To each their own.

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plansbandc  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:27:16am

re: #241 stpaulbear

It scares dogs and cats too.

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:29:25am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

they cant decide whether the purpose of the 2A is

- everyone needs a gun to protect us from a tyrannical government
or
- everyone needs a gun to protect us from each other

so they go with “why not both”

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gocart mozart  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:29:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:32:54am
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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:34:40am

re: #239 William Lewis

Undocumented noncitizens are explicitly forbidden from possessing firearms. That’s why questions 12a, 12b, 12c, 12d1 & 12d2 are on AFT-4473. We need to require a background check on every transfer. Period. Sales new or used, private or gun show, gifts, inheritance - EVERY transfer. The only thing I would not consider a transfer is allowing someone to use your firearm in your presence while at a range.

this is exactly right. if it’s not universal it’s meaningless.

- as to the last sentence, whatever that person does on purpose or by accident is still on on you.
- control your weapon at all times.
- if you allow someone else to use it and you can’t control the situation, dont let someone else use it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:37:41am
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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:39:38am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

None of the angles in my old farmhouse (ca 1900) house are 90°…I assume the house was jut built to fit between the two houses on either side,

my college dorm building and outside staircases were purposely built at odd angles

2am after a night at the pub often squared off the stairs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:39:52am

re: #246 gocart mozart

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:42:55am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

explain how no exception background checks is ‘gun grabbing’.
do it without using a slippery slope argument.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:43:23am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Waaah. We didn’t want your vote to begin with, Meaghan. And you don’t know wtf you’re talking about again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:44:00am

re: #252 DangerMan

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explain how no exception background checks is ‘gun grabbing’.
do it without using a slippery slope argument.

It’s not. It’s just a straw man for ignorant people who believe there should be guns everywhere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:44:07am

re: #252 DangerMan

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explain how no exception background checks is ‘gun grabbing’.
do it without using a slippery slope argument.

The Right to Bear Arms is absolute and has noting to do with any sort of well regulated militia.

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sagehen  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:45:45am

re: #239 William Lewis

The only thing I would not consider a transfer is allowing someone to use your firearm in your presence while at a range.

Isn’t that how Chris Kyle was killed? With his own weapon, by a friend he was letting use it?

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VegasGolfer  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:46:18am

re: #243 Belafon

Yep, well, I consider having some political experience to be a requirement, in addition to not being an Assad apologist or an “if we solve our economic problems, we’ll solve our racism problem” type. To each their own.

Smh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:48:06am

re: #243 Belafon

Yep, well, I consider having some political experience to be a requirement, in addition to not being an Assad apologist or an “if we solve our economic problems, we’ll solve our racism problem” type. To each their own.

I remember better times when the white working class was thriving with well paid unionized factory jobs.

They were already racist assholes.

The economic decline just made it a lot more blatant.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:48:53am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boris Johnson’s reply was LOOK AT ALL MY TOKENS & WHATABOUT!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:49:12am

re: #256 sagehen

Isn’t that how Chris Kyle was killed? With his own weapon, by a friend he was letting use it?

Yep, he was.

Also, about the guy who killed him: “Routh was a 25-year-old U.S. Marine Corps veteran from Lancaster, Texas. Kyle and Littlefield had reportedly taken Routh to the gun range in an effort to help him with his post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Routh had been in and out of mental hospitals for at least two years and had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. His family also said he suffered from PTSD from his time in the military. On the way to the shooting range, Kyle texted Littlefield, “This dude is straight up nuts.” Littlefield responded, “Watch my six,” military slang meaning “watch my back.”

And despite these concerns, Kyle STILL gave the dude his guns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:50:44am
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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:50:48am

re: #256 sagehen

There was an incident a few years ago where a gun range that allowed anyone to go in and shoot any manner of guns that they had on hand - they rented a goddamned Uzi of some sort to a young girl - who proceeded to fire the gun and lost control - killing the instructor in the process.

But on Monday, one family’s adventure went horribly wrong. A 9-year-old girl from New Jersey accidentally shot and killed her instructor with an Uzi submachine gun while he stood to her left side, trying to guide her. A video of the shooting, which her parents recorded on a cellphone, suggests that the girl, in pink shorts and with a braided ponytail, was unable to control the gun’s recoil; the instructor, Charles Vacca, 39, was rushed to a hospital in Las Vegas, where he died Monday night.

The parents turned over the cellphone video to the sheriff’s department, which released it publicly. As they spread online and on television, the images of a small girl losing control of a powerful war weapon during a family vacation created a worldwide spectacle, prompting some commentators to castigate parents who would put a submachine gun in the hands of a child.

“What in the name of Jesus is wrong with us, Americans?” one person wrote on the TripAdvisor page for Bullets and Burgers, the tour company that brings people to Last Stop, amid other reviewers who raved about the great time they had firing guns there. “Automatic weapons as toys? And now a man is dead, for no reason, and a 9-year-old girl is scarred for life.”

The parents are to be blamed to be sure, but the gun range too - they never should have put that kind of weapon in the hands of a 9-year old. No one of any age outside the military should be using that kind of weapon. Even accidents can have deadly consequences.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:52:07am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone explain how shooting guns is going to help with combat related PTSD? Wouldn’t that trigger the very things you’re trying to heal?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:52:37am

re: #263 A Mom Anon

Can someone explain how shooting guns is going to help with combat related PTSD? Wouldn’t that trigger the very things you’re trying to heal?

I was wondering the same thing.

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stpaulbear  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:53:18am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought she was going to quit The View because she was feeling like a “caged animal”?

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Teukka  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:53:49am

re: #263 A Mom Anon

Can someone explain how shooting guns is going to help with combat related PTSD? Wouldn’t that trigger the very things you’re trying to heal?

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

I was wondering the same thing.

Some misguided attempt at EX/RP?

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:53:54am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember better times when the white working class was thriving with well paid unionized factory jobs.

They were already racist assholes.

The economic decline just made it a lot more blatant.

My personal opinion is that their racism was what allowed the rich to rig the economy against them. When you say “blacks shouldn’t have access to higher education” or “blacks shouldn’t be in my union” you allow those higher up to make it harder on you as well.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:53:55am

re: #263 A Mom Anon

Can someone explain how shooting guns is going to help with combat related PTSD? Wouldn’t that trigger the very things you’re trying to heal?

I have no idea but this exactly is why I think gun culture is toxic. A video game I get but actually shooting a weapon? Obviously I feel bad for Kyle’s family but he was extremely reckless and yes stupid by giving the guy a gun.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:55:13am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:55:34am

re: #267 Belafon

My personal opinion is that their racism was what allowed the rich to rig the economy against them. When you say “blacks shouldn’t have access to higher education” or “blacks shouldn’t be in my union” you allow those higher up to make it harder on you as well.

They make you feel privileged with what they let you have, remember the LBJ quote, as long as people have someone else to look down on, they will let you treat them like dirt…Same thing the English did with the Ulstermen and the Irish Catholics.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:57:15am

re: #262 lawhawk

There was an incident a few years ago where a gun range that allowed anyone to go in and shoot any manner of guns that they had on hand - they rented a goddamned Uzi of some sort to a young girl - who proceeded to fire the gun and lost control - killing the instructor in the process.

The parents are to be blamed to be sure, but the gun range too - they never should have put that kind of weapon in the hands of a 9-year old. No one of any age outside the military should be using that kind of weapon. Even accidents can have deadly consequences.

Said it here when it happened but the instructor and the girls guardians were asking for trouble and now that girl is traumatized knowing she ended a life. People look at me like I’m nuts when I declare my dislike of guns and gun culture but stories like that are exactly why I want the NRA to die.

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 9:58:15am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Right to Bear Arms is absolute and has noting to do with any sort of well regulated militia.

to the comment (not at you)

we as a society, and through legislation and the courts decided long ago that the RKBA is not absolute and some people should not possess/own weapons/guns:
- the mentally ill - whatever the definition
- certain criminals/felons, etc
- domestic abusers
- ‘terrorists’
- minors

if every transfer is not reasonably vetted, how are you keeping guns away from these people?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:01:09am

re: #272 DangerMan

if every transfer is not reasonably vetted, how are you keeping guns away from these people?

I recall that it was US military policy that service members with a history of domestic abuse were not allowed to carry sidearms.

Which amazed me: they could drive tanks, pilot attack helicopters or launch rocket batteries but could not carry a pistol…

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:02:22am

re: #256 sagehen

Isn’t that how Chris Kyle was killed? With his own weapon, by a friend he was letting use it?

Sort of. He allowed someone to to use it as part of an pretense at therapy for a guy who had PTSD _and_ schizophrenia. He went into a psychotic break with reality on the drive to the range and killed both of the other guys who didn’t take his issues seriously enough.

But in the end, that is your choice. Only at the range however and for the duration of the visit.

One example for why I would allow that is person A owns an expensive old shotgun. Say a Parker or a Fox. The stocks on those tended to be more extremely cut than on modern shotguns. Before dropping $5k or more on it, person B will probably want to see if that stock is usable for them. Thus go to a range together, shoot a round of clays. Then they can do the sale and background check (presumably on a smartphone app) and make the official transfer of the firearm. There is just an example.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:02:23am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:04:15am

JFC he is not well at all. Why are they even putting him in front of cameras?

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stpaulbear  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:05:03am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Said it here when it happened but the instructor and the girls guardians were asking for trouble and now that girl is traumatized knowing she ended a life. People look at me like I’m nuts when I declare my dislike of guns and gun culture but stories like that are exactly why I want the NRA to die.

That poor little girl didn’t know what the adults were getting her into. How would she know things could happen as they did. They just told her it was going to be fun.

I hope that her therapists have been able to get this through to the girl. She was an innocent in the hands of lethally stupid adults.

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:08:14am

re: #274 William Lewis

Sort of. He allowed someone to to use it as part of an pretense at therapy for a guy who had PTSD _and_ schizophrenia. He went into a psychotic break with reality on the drive to the range and killed both of the other guys who didn’t take his issues seriously enough.

But in the end, that is your choice. Only at the range however and for the duration of the visit.

One example for why I would allow that is person A owns an expensive old shotgun. Say a Parker or a Fox. The stocks on those tended to be more extremely cut than on modern shotguns. Before dropping $5k or more on it, person B will probably want to see if that stock is usable for them. Thus go to a range together, shoot a round of clays. Then they can do the sale and background check (presumably on a smartphone app) and make the official transfer of the firearm. There is just an example.

you still need to check out the potential buyer.

it’s your property. you’r ethe owner. that property can cause damage to others.
you’re responsible for wahtever happens.

would you let just anyone test drive your car before you sell it?
or might you check to see they have a licence and the actual ability to pay for the car?

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:15:35am

Williamson is now picking a fight with Yashar over her deleted tweet. Yashar simply quote/posted the deleted tweet without comment. She took affront, when all reality should be the one taking umbrage with her dumbassery.

Screw this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:19:35am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

JFC he is not well at all. Why are they even putting him in front of cameras?

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He’s probably pissed Dorian didn’t make a direct strike on the U.S. and robbed him of his opportunity to show up and look like the great savior of the people.

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:20:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:20:16am

re: #279 lawhawk

You seem to think you can change the path of a hurricane with thoughts and prayers. That’s delusional.

and even if one could, changing the path means sending it to ravage someone else

which is irresponsible

In any case, none of this is thought out, it is just feel-good gut response

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:22:47am

re: #279 lawhawk

The first rule of the internet is that it’s forever, Marianne.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:25:33am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and even if one could, changing the path means sending it to ravage someone else

which is irresponsible

In any case, none of this is thought out, it is just feel-good gut response

US residents: Let’s pray away the storm. Yay! We stopped it in its tracks! WOOT!
Bahamas: WTF US…. it’s sitting over us for 36 hours as a CAT fucking 5 storm! Assholes.
US: But it’s not hitting us. We’re number one.
Bahamas: Not on the track fuckers. Not at the track.

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:28:11am

re: #284 lawhawk

US residents: Let’s pray away the storm. Yay! We stopped it in its tracks! WOOT!
Bahamas: WTF US…. it’s sitting over us for 36 hours as a CAT fucking 5 storm! Assholes.
US: But it’s not hitting us. We’re number one.
Bahamas: Not on the track fuckers. Not at the track.

As long as a Bible America is saved, God performed a miracle.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:28:22am

re: #262 lawhawk

There was an incident a few years ago where a gun range that allowed anyone to go in and shoot any manner of guns that they had on hand - they rented a goddamned Uzi of some sort to a young girl - who proceeded to fire the gun and lost control - killing the instructor in the process.

The parents are to be blamed to be sure, but the gun range too - they never should have put that kind of weapon in the hands of a 9-year old. No one of any age outside the military should be using that kind of weapon. Even accidents can have deadly consequences.

Yep.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:30:27am

re: #99 Joe Bacon 🌹

“Momma said I could be anything. I wanna be a nude model for a Renaissance artist.”

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:32:00am

re: #286 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And I totally get where Jim is coming from (he’s written extensively about gun safety), and I concur. Accidents usually are the result of negligence on the part of the gun owner.

Self-inflicted injuries from not treating every gun as loaded with the safety off.
Discharges hitting someone else because not treating the gun as loaded with the safety off.
Ignoring what is downrange from the muzzle.
Improper storage.
Improper handling.

It all comes back to the negligent handling of the gun. And I also think prosecuting those who negligently handled their firearms that led to the death or injuries of others should be mandatory even if it’s a family member (and an “accident”).

But for the improper handling and storage of the guns, those people would not have been injured or killed by the discharge of a weapon that was negligently stored/maintained/handled by the owner.

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Teukka  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:32:58am

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jaunte  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:34:25am

Marianne Williamson shifts into Ben Shapiro’s WhyWon’tTheyDebateMe lane.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:35:47am
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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:36:45am

re: #291 Dread Pirate

He’s only a few steps away from Jeff Tambour from the Death of Stalin (without the mustache).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:39:02am

re: #291 Dread Pirate

Hahahahaha. Oh man, that’s great.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:43:25am

re: #289 Teukka

Xylophallophagiphobia

Fear of getting your dick eaten by a tree (don’t even ask me how we came up with that one…)

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Dread Pirate  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:46:47am
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Kilroy was here  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:56:49am

Trump backs Boris Johnson amid setbacks: He ‘knows how to win’

“Boris knows how to win,” he added. “Don’t worry about him.”

Johnson faced a significant setback Tuesday when 21 members of his party joined with other members of parliament to force a vote to delay the U.K.’s withdrawal from the European Union.

On Wednesday, lawmakers in the House of Commons voted 329-300 to advance a bill that would block a “no deal” Brexit, handing Johnson his second defeat in as many days.

thehill.com
So much winning..

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:57:38am

re: #288 lawhawk

And I totally get where Jim is coming from (he’s written extensively about gun safety), and I concur. Accidents usually are the result of negligence on the part of the gun owner.

Self-inflicted injuries from not treating every gun as loaded with the safety off.
Discharges hitting someone else because not treating the gun as loaded with the safety off.
Ignoring what is downrange from the muzzle.
Improper storage.
Improper handling.

It all comes back to the negligent handling of the gun. And I also think prosecuting those who negligently handled their firearms that led to the death or injuries of others should be mandatory even if it’s a family member (and an “accident”).

But for the improper handling and storage of the guns, those people would not have been injured or killed by the discharge of a weapon that was negligently stored/maintained/handled by the owner.

“Control your weapon at all times”

Not just some times

Lose your freedom, finances and future 2a rights if you dont

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jaunte  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:57:52am

Today In Narcissistic Injury

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Dread Pirate  Sep 4, 2019 • 10:59:37am

First Lady makes corrections to her bio.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:01:22am

re: #298 jaunte

JFC. That’s real. I feel bad for the Onion, they have try SO hard these days.

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jaunte  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:02:10am

re: #300 Eclectic Cyborg

Smallest human ever to enter the Oval Office. Even measured in Scaramuccis.

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jaunte  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:03:11am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:06:11am

re: #298 jaunte

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Today In Narcissistic Injury

What an insecure little shit-whistle.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:06:20am

re: #299 Dread Pirate

Used to be?

What’s the proof she isn’t still?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:06:23am

re: #302 jaunte

he had to use a week-old forecast track graphic to make that Sharpied addition “work”.

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lawhawk  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:10:33am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

he had to use a week-old forecast track graphic to make that Sharpied addition “work”.

And it’s clear that it was added by someone in Trumpworld, because the extended cone isn’t larger than the preceding cone (which is how these things work.

Even when lying and covering for Trump they can’t help but fuck things up further.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:11:54am

re: #306 lawhawk

And it’s clear that it was added by someone in Trumpworld, because the extended cone isn’t larger than the preceding cone (which is how these things work.

Even when lying and covering for Trump they can’t help but fuck things up further.

also, the real extended cone outline is white, not black like the Sharpie line

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DangerMan  Sep 4, 2019 • 11:20:24am

re: #298 jaunte

scientific ignoramuses
clueless about wind and weather patterns and other drivers and influences (after all they are invisible)

“it was heading for california, i tell ya”

and that we have an NHC that does this stuff for a living


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